Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 19, 2024


DOJ & FBI LAWYERING UP In Fear Of Trump And Gaetz Prosecutions w-Andrew Wilson | Timcast IRL


Episode Stats

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2 hours and 4 minutes

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198.61874

Word Count

24,685

Sentence Count

2,340

Misogynist Sentences

36

Hate Speech Sentences

31


Summary

On this week's show: The latest on the latest in the Matt Gaetz and Donald Trump feud, the latest on World War III, and much, much more! Timestamps: 1:00:00 - DOJ and FBI officials begin lawyering up in anticipation of a Trump DOJ investigation 3:30 - Donald Trump shows up to UFC 309 to thunderous applause 6:00 - Joe Scarborough and Micah from Morning Joe meet with Donald Trump 9:30 - World War 3 may be on the horizon 11:15 - Russia has been authorized to use long-range missiles into Russian territory 13:00- Sweden is warning their citizenry of what to do in nuclear war 16:15


Transcript

00:00:20.000 So the latest reporting is that DOJ and FBI officials have begun lawyering up in anticipation of Matt Gaetz and Donald Trump targeting them for criminal prosecution.
00:00:32.000 Of course, the left is taking this as it's Donald Trump's revenge and the right is saying it's Donald Trump's revenge.
00:00:39.000 The thing is, the right believes many of these individuals actually committed crimes.
00:00:42.000 And with these investigations, we'll likely prove it.
00:00:45.000 And I think that's fair to say.
00:00:46.000 So we'll talk about that.
00:00:47.000 Plus, good fun.
00:00:48.000 Donald Trump shows up to UFC 309.
00:00:50.000 Thunderous applause.
00:00:51.000 Everybody's cheering.
00:00:52.000 Mike Johnson's there.
00:00:53.000 You had RFK Jr.
00:00:54.000 I think RFK Jr.
00:00:55.000 was there.
00:00:55.000 You got Elon, but they were on the plane.
00:00:57.000 Everybody was cheering for this.
00:00:59.000 And it shows you that we're back, baby.
00:01:00.000 You got Jon Jones doing the Trump shimmy.
00:01:02.000 You got football players doing the Trump shimmy.
00:01:04.000 No more dropping to their knees in fear of some cult ideology.
00:01:09.000 It's a good time to be alive, I must say.
00:01:12.000 And then we've got a bunch of other stuff.
00:01:13.000 World War III may be on the horizon, which is...
00:01:16.000 Ukraine is now authorized to use these long-range missiles into Russian territory.
00:01:22.000 And Sweden has actually started issuing pamphlets warning their citizenry of what to do in nuclear war, because they issue them periodically.
00:01:30.000 And they do fear there is war coming.
00:01:33.000 So we'll talk about all that stuff.
00:01:34.000 Plus, we got a funny story.
00:01:36.000 Joe Scarborough and Micah from Morning Joe, they met with Donald Trump.
00:01:40.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:01:40.000 They met with Hitler, I guess, because they want to make amends and open lines of communication.
00:01:46.000 Yeah, it's because their ratings were 28,000 in the key demo over the weekend.
00:01:50.000 So they know they're irrelevant.
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00:03:49.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Andrew Wilson.
00:03:53.000 Hey, what's going on, Tim?
00:03:54.000 How you doing?
00:03:55.000 I'm doing well.
00:03:55.000 How about you?
00:03:56.000 I don't know.
00:03:56.000 I can't get this mic right.
00:03:57.000 There we go.
00:03:58.000 I think I got it right.
00:03:59.000 You got it.
00:04:00.000 I think I got it.
00:04:00.000 Who are you?
00:04:01.000 What do you do?
00:04:01.000 Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
00:04:03.000 I'm the host of the one and only Crucible.
00:04:05.000 It's a popular entertainment platform on YouTube.
00:04:07.000 I'm a political analyst, political satirist.
00:04:10.000 You've probably seen me on the Whatever podcast with Brian Atlas.
00:04:15.000 And that's what I do.
00:04:17.000 Right on.
00:04:17.000 Well, thanks, Frank.
00:04:18.000 I should be fun.
00:04:18.000 We got Raymond hanging out.
00:04:19.000 Hey everybody, Raymond here, resident blue collar here at TMG. I look forward to talking with Mr.
00:04:24.000 Andrew Wilson because I enjoy him and Rachel's commentary.
00:04:27.000 Phil.
00:04:27.000 Mr.
00:04:27.000 Hello, everybody.
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00:04:33.000 Let's go.
00:04:34.000 Let's roll from NBC News.
00:04:36.000 You know him.
00:04:37.000 You love him.
00:04:37.000 DOJ and FBI officials reach out to lawyers as potential Trump revenge.
00:04:43.000 Prosecutions loom.
00:04:44.000 Oh, they have to put revenge.
00:04:45.000 I'm totally fine with that.
00:04:46.000 I'd rather say retribution and accountability.
00:04:48.000 Legal experts say Trump's choice for Attorney General Matt Gaetz signals the president-elect's determination to tightly control the Justice Department and prosecute adversaries.
00:04:57.000 or criminals, multiple current and former senior DOJ and FBI officials have begun reaching out to lawyers in anticipation of being criminally investigated by the Trump administration, according to three people with knowledge of their deliberations.
00:05:06.000 according to three people with knowledge of their deliberations.
00:05:09.000 Now, I just want to pause because, you know, I said this a couple of months ago.
00:05:09.000 Now, I just want to pause because, you know, I said this a couple of months ago.
00:05:14.000 I said when Donald Trump gets in, he should launch the investigations.
00:05:14.000 I said when Donald Trump gets in, he should launch the investigations.
00:05:17.000 And it is it feels good to see that my sentiment was not unique to me, that there are many people who agree.
00:05:17.000 And it is it feels good to see that my sentiment was not unique to me, that there are many people who agree.
00:05:23.000 They say following Trump's decisive election victory, many Justice Department officials and career staffers were already nervous about the possibility they would be targeted by Trump loyalists, particularly members of Congress.
00:05:33.000 But the selection of former rep Matt Gaetz, a firebrand Trump ally, who is subject of a recent FBI investigation to lead the department, has sharply increased the sense of alarm the sources say.
00:05:44.000 I'm glad to hear it.
00:05:45.000 Let's roll tape.
00:05:47.000 A sense of alarm is building among officials at the Justice Department and the FBI who are bracing for possible revenge prosecutions from the incoming Trump administration.
00:05:57.000 NBC News reports that some civil servants who work on a government salary have proactively reached out to lawyers.
00:06:03.000 That's according to three people with knowledge of their deliberations.
00:06:07.000 They're worried about the effect of long and costly legal battles.
00:06:11.000 Joining me here in studio, NBC News Senior Executive Editor for National Security, David Rode, who reported this story.
00:06:18.000 Also with us, Glenn Kirshner, a former federal prosecutor and MSNBC legal analyst.
00:06:23.000 It's good to have you here, David.
00:06:24.000 A lot of DOJ staffers we had been hearing and you had been reporting were saying there was some nervousness about what might happen, about, frankly, what has been said about the plans for going after people who they felt unfairly went after them.
00:06:40.000 But how has the choice of Matt Gaetz changed the equation, or has it?
00:06:46.000 It has.
00:06:46.000 And that's the difference.
00:06:47.000 There was worry about congressional investigations.
00:06:50.000 They expected that.
00:06:51.000 But the choice of Gates, which was, I think, a real surprise to many people inside the DOJ. Me too.
00:06:56.000 And everywhere.
00:06:57.000 Everywhere, yes.
00:06:58.000 That he, you know, he's a lawyer, but he's had no experience prosecuting cases.
00:07:02.000 But most of all, he is a firebrand loyalist, a very vocal supporter of President Trump.
00:07:08.000 And it's seen by people as a choice.
00:07:10.000 It's someone who trusts, who Trump trusts.
00:07:13.000 And someone who, given the ethics investigation, sort of owes Trump.
00:07:17.000 Trump is sort of protecting him by giving him this new job just before the ethics report comes out.
00:07:23.000 Yeah, well, you know what?
00:07:24.000 They deserve to be investigated.
00:07:25.000 And I'm looking forward to it.
00:07:26.000 I think Matt Gaetz was the best choice.
00:07:29.000 I didn't see it coming.
00:07:30.000 And when they announced it, I was yelling and we bought champagne and celebrated.
00:07:35.000 We did.
00:07:36.000 Yeah, it's a very exciting time right now getting Matt Gaetz in there.
00:07:38.000 And if we get him in there.
00:07:40.000 Well, right.
00:07:40.000 If these people are, they did nothing wrong, if they follow all the rules like they're supposed to, then they should have nothing to worry about when it comes to legal counsel.
00:07:48.000 Well, that's exactly what the left says.
00:07:49.000 Of course, we know that's not really how the law works.
00:07:51.000 The procedure is the punishment, but that's too bad.
00:07:54.000 They want to wage lawfare against Donald Trump.
00:07:57.000 They want to do these false criminal charges.
00:07:58.000 I guess now we're going to have to just say each and every one of them was investigated for whatever it is they get investigated for.
00:08:04.000 I made the half joke on X that I was going to start hiring investigators to go up to journalists for silly, for wacky reasons so that I could then say this person has been investigated for insert whatever.
00:08:16.000 Yeah.
00:08:16.000 That's what they're doing to Matt Gaetz.
00:08:17.000 Allegedly.
00:08:18.000 That's like, if you could just say they allegedly did it.
00:08:21.000 No, no.
00:08:22.000 Investigations are worse than allegations.
00:08:23.000 Well, right, but you could do both.
00:08:25.000 I'm saying, if you say someone was alleged to have done something, nobody cares.
00:08:29.000 It's like, sure, if I say they were actually investigated for cheating on their wife or something like that, then it's like, whoa, investigated for it?
00:08:36.000 Yeah, look at that.
00:08:38.000 And we can investigate anybody for any reason we want.
00:08:41.000 So I can just hire a private investigator and say, I want you to investigate, I don't know, insert liberal pundit, for wire fraud.
00:08:48.000 I don't know, it's a private investigation.
00:08:50.000 Maybe you'll find something, huh?
00:08:53.000 Well, I mean, it doesn't really matter what they actually find or, well, I mean, I guess it does, but the point isn't about, like, actually finding any kind of illegality.
00:09:03.000 The point is smear.
00:09:05.000 Like, the whole reason they're bringing this up and talking about it is they want to smear him, uh, If this were someone on the Democrat side, they would be downplaying the allegations.
00:09:14.000 They'd be like, oh, well, the DOJ looked into it.
00:09:16.000 They'd be saying all truthful things, like DOJ looked into it.
00:09:19.000 They didn't prosecute, you know, it's not something, the witness wasn't credible, etc., etc.
00:09:26.000 This isn't about whether or not they care.
00:09:30.000 It's about sliming Matt Gaetz.
00:09:33.000 And as for whether or not he should go after people, if you've broken the law, you should be investigated.
00:09:40.000 If there's evidence that you've broken the law, you should be investigated.
00:09:45.000 And then if there is enough evidence, you should be prosecuted.
00:09:51.000 That's not some kind of ridiculous far-right wing perspective.
00:09:56.000 Get revenge.
00:09:57.000 I mean, honestly, get revenge.
00:09:59.000 It's time.
00:10:01.000 I'm actually kind of tired of the fact that when the Democrats get in, they're like, okay, well, these guys are all lawbreakers.
00:10:09.000 We're going to endlessly investigate them.
00:10:10.000 We're going to throw every phony baloney accusation we possibly can at them.
00:10:14.000 And then when Republicans get power, like last time, Trump said, no, let's do the peaceful thing, let's do the loving thing, let's do that.
00:10:22.000 It didn't work out.
00:10:23.000 It didn't work out.
00:10:25.000 They need to go after them.
00:10:26.000 There's a lot of the American electorate who believe that there are traitors inside of the FBI, that there are traitors, and that Democrats have acted in a treasonous manner.
00:10:36.000 Yeah, I mean, look, nothing that you're talking about is...
00:10:40.000 It says that you should go after people that haven't broken the law or that aren't treasonous.
00:10:44.000 And I'm in full agreement.
00:10:45.000 I don't think anybody's treasonous, though.
00:10:47.000 I think this was the discussion we had with Laura Loomer.
00:10:49.000 Seditious?
00:10:50.000 Seditious.
00:10:51.000 Seeking to undermine the government or undermine it from within.
00:10:54.000 Treason is providing aid to an enemy, particularly at a time of war.
00:10:57.000 So fair enough.
00:10:58.000 I don't think there's any kind of...
00:11:00.000 There's no...
00:11:00.000 At least I personally don't have any problem with finding people that are seditious and accusing them of, you know, punishing them for seditious behavior or whatever.
00:11:09.000 That's fine with me.
00:11:09.000 But I don't think that...
00:11:11.000 I don't think we should be trying to create conditions.
00:11:15.000 We shouldn't be doing what the FBI was doing, trying to get, you know, trying to entrap people and trying to create a situation.
00:11:23.000 Because I agree with you, there's plenty of evidence that there is seditious behavior in multiple levels of government, so yeah.
00:11:31.000 Well, the thing is, you're right, right?
00:11:34.000 For the purpose of the semantic distinction, I think when the average person thinks of treason, right, they're not thinking of it in terms of, you know, it has to be during wartime or this type of thing.
00:11:46.000 But I agree with you, right?
00:11:47.000 So, seditious.
00:11:48.000 I do think...
00:11:49.000 That there has been a lot of seditious activity.
00:11:52.000 I do think, I would even consider treasonous activity towards President Trump, for sure.
00:11:59.000 And I think, I would love to actually see him, once Gates is in, as the AG, why not go back and revisit what happened during the former election?
00:12:10.000 Why not go back and take a look at why this guy, you know, ended up with millions and millions more votes than Kamala ended up with?
00:12:18.000 I would like to see an actual investigation launched on that.
00:12:21.000 I think, you know, yeah, I'm of two minds.
00:12:25.000 I think absolutely, because the American people will want some kind of resolution.
00:12:29.000 But I think that in terms of the efforts, they should just be, and I don't know that Republicans are going to do this, but...
00:12:36.000 Proof of citizenship passed immediately for voting in federal elections.
00:12:40.000 Just boom, instantly.
00:12:42.000 And mass deportations.
00:12:43.000 I mean, that solves most of the problems.
00:12:45.000 And then you need, oh man, Matt, so that's Trump and general Republicans, but what Matt Gaetz can do.
00:12:52.000 It's going to be tough.
00:12:53.000 You know, going back and re-litigating the 2020 election, all that stuff, it's a heavy lift that I lean towards we want answers.
00:12:59.000 I am not of the opinion that there were servers and satellites and all that other conspiracy mumbo-jumbo.
00:13:06.000 I think that we experienced a standalone complex.
00:13:09.000 I think many different people played a different role independent of themselves.
00:13:13.000 But that being said...
00:13:15.000 Matt Gaetz needs to launch civil rights, conspiracy against rights investigations into Georgia, Fannie Willis, into Letitia James, into Alvin Bragg.
00:13:24.000 He should be looking into what these states were doing with COVID, with the elderly patients who were put in the nursing homes and died.
00:13:31.000 I want to see first and foremost...
00:13:33.000 Matt Gaetz, go after New York.
00:13:36.000 These fake felony charges should be investigated at the federal level.
00:13:39.000 Conspiracy against rights.
00:13:40.000 The fake civil rights charge.
00:13:42.000 The fake sexual abuse claims.
00:13:44.000 That we cannot tolerate as a country.
00:13:46.000 The fact that they're dropping these things, that Mershon is likely to drop them, or at the federal level they're dropping these charges.
00:13:53.000 I mean, look at this.
00:13:54.000 They're saying, oh, it's revenge.
00:13:55.000 Matt Gaetz is going to go after these people.
00:13:57.000 Jack Smith is dropping the investigations.
00:14:00.000 They're walking away.
00:14:01.000 The moment he gets elected, they're backing off.
00:14:03.000 Mershon is expected to drop the charges in New York, even though he's already convicted because it was all fake.
00:14:06.000 This country cannot survive unless we have a legal system that says you can't do that and you go to prison for breaking the law.
00:14:14.000 But don't you also like I would like to see the pardons of everybody involved in January 6th.
00:14:20.000 Yes.
00:14:21.000 I would like to see mutations and pardons.
00:14:23.000 I would like to see them all.
00:14:24.000 Anybody who's still in jail released.
00:14:26.000 And yes, I do want the people who put them there investigated.
00:14:30.000 I want them investigated.
00:14:32.000 I want them tried.
00:14:33.000 And if it turns out that they were throwing American citizens who went to this protest in prison and locking them away without actual due process, which is what we're now being told has happened multiple times, yeah, they need to go to prison.
00:14:49.000 You know, but the game for the longest time was that the machine didn't go after itself.
00:14:53.000 So Donald Trump gets in, and now all of a sudden they're looking at real accountability, and they're going to lie.
00:14:58.000 And so you're going to get these liberals...
00:15:00.000 This is the challenge, because no matter what happens, either the Democrats will abuse power, and if the Republicans try in any way to get accountability, they will claim this is proof Trump's a fascist and is doing everything they claimed.
00:15:12.000 There's no off-ramp on this.
00:15:13.000 Because it's revenge.
00:15:14.000 I mean, the thing is, though, is...
00:15:17.000 There really is no way for you not to make it appear that it's not.
00:15:22.000 There's no way, right?
00:15:23.000 Because in many ways, it is a reaction.
00:15:26.000 You've pulled the rubber band back so far, and it's snapped.
00:15:28.000 And it's like, look, we really don't have a choice at this point.
00:15:32.000 Many of these things got to be investigated.
00:15:35.000 And people have been so irate, especially in the fallout of January 6th.
00:15:40.000 You see these liberals, crazy, insane leftists like Destiny, saying, lock them away, throw away the key.
00:15:44.000 You'll watch them during these multiple assassination attempts, say, hey, the guy deserved it.
00:15:49.000 This kind of thing.
00:15:51.000 The rhetoric and the push by the Democrat machine to imprison anybody who dissents against them.
00:15:57.000 Yeah.
00:15:58.000 Yeah.
00:15:58.000 Investigate the shit out of them.
00:16:00.000 Yes.
00:16:00.000 Yes.
00:16:01.000 Yeah, I think that that's necessary to restore your average American's faith in the Justice Department.
00:16:07.000 If people pay attention to the news, if they watch the...
00:16:12.000 And I'm not talking about to the legacy media.
00:16:14.000 I'm talking about if they're looking into the actual events that happened with the Trump trial in New York, the 34 felony charges...
00:16:24.000 Yeah, farce.
00:16:24.000 Total farce.
00:16:25.000 ...that they created.
00:16:27.000 If you look at those...
00:16:29.000 And the problem is that your average person is aware that the Justice Department is completely and totally corrupted, right?
00:16:38.000 And it's not just the federal Justice Department.
00:16:41.000 It's at the state level, because obviously Letitia James in New York goes after Donald Trump.
00:16:45.000 She's not, you know, it's not a federal thing.
00:16:48.000 It's a state level thing.
00:16:50.000 Yeah, but they do it.
00:16:51.000 They collude on purpose to do this so that they know that he can't have federal immunity.
00:16:56.000 So we'll do it at the state level.
00:16:57.000 That way it sticks.
00:16:59.000 That is, by the way, I think that that's a conspiracy.
00:17:02.000 I think that that should be investigated for a conspiracy.
00:17:05.000 I mean, to be honest with you, it might be a conspiracy that goes through the whole Democrat party like the DNC itself.
00:17:10.000 But anyways, my point being, the average person's faith in the justice system Has been significantly shaken.
00:17:18.000 If you want people to trust that their justice system actually does behave in an unbiased way, you have to go and root out the people that are corrupt.
00:17:31.000 Getting rid of corruption is not partisan.
00:17:34.000 I don't care if it'll look partisan and there'll be people crying partisanship, but getting rid of corrupt people in the government, it's non-partisan.
00:17:44.000 And it shouldn't be partisan.
00:17:45.000 It just doesn't matter anymore.
00:17:46.000 Yeah, but to Tim's point, Tim says, and he's right, right?
00:17:49.000 He says, but if you go after him, no matter what, it's going to appear like revenge.
00:17:54.000 Which is fine.
00:17:55.000 Right, it doesn't matter.
00:17:55.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter.
00:17:56.000 So it's like, well, then lean into it and say, yeah, it is revenge, fuckers.
00:18:00.000 No, I mean, I don't, I mean...
00:18:02.000 Lean into it.
00:18:04.000 Personally, I think that there are, that's unnecessary.
00:18:08.000 I would have done it.
00:18:09.000 Go after them as hard as you can.
00:18:11.000 Go after the people that have...
00:18:13.000 If there's corruption, get the corruption.
00:18:15.000 Root them out.
00:18:16.000 100%.
00:18:16.000 Root out the corrupt.
00:18:17.000 And don't say, oh, well, we want to be nice to people so that way in the future...
00:18:21.000 No, no, no, no.
00:18:22.000 If you want to prevent corruption, what you do is you put the corrupt people in jail until they are too old to do anything.
00:18:28.000 I'm going to read a super chat, which we normally say, but this is a good one.
00:18:32.000 And it's Austin Pearson says, I was a bought-in lefty until 2022.
00:18:37.000 Realizing CNN lied about Rogan looking gray with their edited video shown to me by Timcast helped me see the reality of the left's lies.
00:18:43.000 I can't thank you enough.
00:18:44.000 I appreciate it.
00:18:45.000 But that's why we don't say it's revenge, because it's not revenge.
00:18:47.000 It is accountability under the law.
00:18:49.000 They're going to scream and cry revenge, and we're going to say every step of the way, these people broke the law.
00:18:55.000 And they will weaponize that, but...
00:18:58.000 My point, when I say it doesn't matter anymore, is they're going to say it no matter what you do, but we have to do it, otherwise this country can't survive.
00:19:05.000 I mean, is the optics war still there, though?
00:19:08.000 I might have agreed with you.
00:19:10.000 That was the point, what he just said, because even this past election, 2022, was a slight move forward for the Republicans in the House.
00:19:19.000 But then we got the House, the Senate, and the presidency by 2024 because people are actually starting to be like...
00:19:25.000 Well, it's a combination of things.
00:19:26.000 It's not just that they're waking up and coming over to the right side of history.
00:19:29.000 It's that many of these people, like Joe Scarborough and Michael Brzezinski, it's a good example.
00:19:33.000 I'll pull this up in a second.
00:19:34.000 They are fair-weather political pundits.
00:19:38.000 Their politics are whatever they think.
00:19:40.000 Let me see if I can actually...
00:19:41.000 But to the point, specifically on optics, when you're talking about optics, there used to be this kind of political kabuki where optics did matter A significant amount.
00:19:53.000 With Trump, it doesn't seem like the optics matter that much.
00:19:56.000 They paint him in the worst light possible no matter what.
00:19:59.000 And when this guy was calling women dogs and fat and everything else, nobody cared, right?
00:20:04.000 They were like, good, he's right.
00:20:07.000 It almost seems like perhaps on the optics front, the American people don't care because they had good optics.
00:20:14.000 The Democrats had good optics this election.
00:20:15.000 I disagree.
00:20:16.000 Look at the Trump shimmy versus the knee on the ground.
00:20:18.000 The reason why people are feeling comfortable and wearing MAGA hats walking around New York City is because of the popular vote.
00:20:23.000 They now feel like, hey, you know what?
00:20:25.000 I'm not alone.
00:20:26.000 Let me pull the story up, though.
00:20:27.000 This is from Sail Times.
00:20:29.000 Kissing the ring.
00:20:31.000 MSNBC's Morning Joe host meets with Trump to reopen lines of communication.
00:20:36.000 It gets better.
00:20:37.000 Take a look at this.
00:20:38.000 Anna Navarro furious about Joe Scarborough and Michael Brzezinski's trip to Mar-a-Lago to see Trump.
00:20:44.000 And now apparently they're getting boycotts.
00:20:47.000 There's calls to boycott their show by all 28 people who watch it.
00:20:51.000 Okay, it's 28,000.
00:20:53.000 But when I showed the ratings, which are by 1,000, it said Morning Joe 28.
00:20:59.000 And I was like, only 28,000 viewers in the key demo.
00:21:02.000 And everyone responded with, are you sure it's not just 28?
00:21:05.000 So this is what they're being accused of.
00:21:06.000 They have this clip where they said, obviously we disagree with Donald Trump, but we decided we got to do something different.
00:21:12.000 We're going to go talk to him.
00:21:13.000 It's too late.
00:21:14.000 These people have gone so insane.
00:21:17.000 MSNBC's ratings are gone.
00:21:20.000 Comcast is talking about getting rid of it.
00:21:22.000 CNN's laying people off.
00:21:23.000 The View is trying to hire a pro-Trump personality.
00:21:26.000 That's the report that's coming out.
00:21:28.000 This is why I think optics really does matter.
00:21:31.000 There are regular people...
00:21:33.000 I think most people are divided, but I think a default liberal, the average default liberal, is only going along with the left because they think that is the mainstream.
00:21:42.000 So I was saying before the election, the reason that we have to win the popular vote is so that we can tell every single leftist you're on the wrong side of history.
00:21:51.000 Yeah.
00:21:51.000 All of a sudden now we're seeing Bill Maher comes out and he's like, oh, the left, they make me so mad.
00:21:57.000 Democrats are snooty.
00:21:59.000 It's like, oh, really, Joe?
00:22:00.000 Really, Bill?
00:22:01.000 You were saying Trump couldn't win three weeks ago.
00:22:04.000 Now he's all of a sudden like, oh, I can't believe it.
00:22:07.000 Now you got Seth Moulton coming out after the election saying, look, you know, I'm concerned about a male athlete or former male athlete running over my daughters and I'm supposed to be afraid to say that.
00:22:16.000 He couldn't say it before the election.
00:22:17.000 Here's my favorite is Ezra Klein.
00:22:19.000 After the election comes out and says, all these people are saying that, you know, when you hear crime is up or the costs are up, that's Fox News.
00:22:28.000 Shut the F up.
00:22:29.000 I live in New York.
00:22:30.000 I talk to people.
00:22:31.000 They are pissed.
00:22:32.000 They are experiencing this and I'm loving it.
00:22:34.000 Ezra.
00:22:35.000 Where were you before the election to say these things?
00:22:38.000 They didn't say it because they genuinely believed that the establishment was in control, and so they were going to say whatever they had to say.
00:22:46.000 For good reason.
00:22:48.000 These are the moral cowards who are like, I'm angry, of course, but I'm just going to say whatever they want me to say so I can dodge their ire.
00:22:58.000 Then Trump wins the popular vote.
00:23:01.000 Now, all of a sudden, these people are coming out being like, whoa, whoa.
00:23:04.000 Trump was right the whole time.
00:23:05.000 I mean, I was always for Trump.
00:23:06.000 But isn't this the idea of the professional kabuki putting on the front of having really good optics?
00:23:15.000 We say the right things.
00:23:16.000 We're politically correct.
00:23:17.000 We do this.
00:23:18.000 The other side says, okay, screw that.
00:23:20.000 They have a complete counterset to this.
00:23:23.000 They're like, nope, we're not following the program.
00:23:25.000 Our memes are not politically correct.
00:23:27.000 We're a lot more brutal.
00:23:28.000 We're a lot meaner.
00:23:30.000 We're not very nice.
00:23:31.000 This kind of thing.
00:23:32.000 That seems like it's not optically friendly, yet people move towards that.
00:23:36.000 They move towards that in this election.
00:23:39.000 All of the things that you're kind of framing here with the view and their clucking and this and that, that was all positive optics, right?
00:23:46.000 We're nice.
00:23:47.000 We're saying good.
00:23:48.000 I agree and disagree.
00:23:49.000 I think you're right on, you know, the right is more shocking, offensive, and edgy, but that is the positive optics.
00:23:55.000 People joking, like Dave Chappelle doing the...
00:23:58.000 He did the Chinese-Asian joke, stereotype.
00:24:01.000 Everybody laughed.
00:24:02.000 That...
00:24:03.000 It's fun and funny, and that's what we want to do.
00:24:06.000 The left was playing this moral grandstanding of, we will beat you and punish you, and that was scary.
00:24:11.000 People fell in line because they controlled the institutions.
00:24:13.000 Right, but that's mainstream optics, right?
00:24:15.000 Like, that's the idea of mainstream optics.
00:24:17.000 The idea of mainstream optics is don't be offensive, right?
00:24:21.000 Pander correctly.
00:24:22.000 Look like you have the moral high ground at all times.
00:24:26.000 Be completely affronted by everything everybody says.
00:24:29.000 That seems to have been kind of the mainstream...
00:24:33.000 Optical game.
00:24:34.000 Even my entire lifetime.
00:24:35.000 And Trump, I think, I feel like he capitulated too much to that.
00:24:39.000 Well, I think that's why it broke.
00:24:41.000 Because once people realized, I don't want to live this way, and other people, like I read that super chat where the guy says, you know, when he saw the Rogan's skin turned gray, he started to realize this was all fake.
00:24:51.000 So my point is, When we come for retribution and accountability, retribution, divine justice, whatever you want to call it, not revenge, not an emotional thing, it's a pragmatic thing.
00:25:04.000 People need to know we maintain that we are morally correct in what we are doing and it is dispassionate and logical.
00:25:12.000 So the left threatens you.
00:25:14.000 We'll throw you in the gulag, do it or else, and people fall in line.
00:25:18.000 We, on the other side, say, make your jokes, dude.
00:25:20.000 Be edgy.
00:25:20.000 I don't care.
00:25:21.000 In fact, the right is a mix between people who are more conservative saying, I don't think anybody should be getting transgender surgeries, and the moderate, disaffected liberals saying, well, if you're over 18, do what you want.
00:25:32.000 And this is a coalition, a unity party.
00:25:35.000 And the left is fall in line with us.
00:25:37.000 Abortion still birth or else.
00:25:38.000 People were scared and believe that the popular vote was a massive flare in the air saying not anymore.
00:25:45.000 The silent it is no longer a silent majority.
00:25:48.000 The majority doesn't believe these things.
00:25:50.000 What happens is those moral grandstanders like Micah and Joe who are calling Trump Hitler are now all of a sudden turning tail because they're scared of being on the wrong side of history.
00:26:00.000 Yeah, they're still moral cowards.
00:26:01.000 They're still bad people.
00:26:03.000 But at least now they're bending their knee to our position.
00:26:06.000 Yeah, but I mean if the wind blows the other direction, they'll be right back there, right?
00:26:09.000 Everybody knows it.
00:26:11.000 Let's not give them any slack.
00:26:13.000 Yeah, well, no, I understand.
00:26:15.000 And it's tongue in cheek saying lean into the revenge.
00:26:18.000 The point is, yeah, it is funny.
00:26:20.000 But the point is, is to say, yes, they do need to actually push these investigations forward.
00:26:27.000 And they need to do the same thing.
00:26:28.000 They need to tie these Democrats up in the same amount of red tape.
00:26:31.000 That they tied Trump up in his first administration and they prevented him from doing almost anything.
00:26:36.000 He was always under some investigation for some nonsense.
00:26:39.000 There was always some new investigation coming around.
00:26:42.000 Now he has the Department of Justice at his disposal.
00:26:45.000 He perhaps could put the right people in.
00:26:48.000 Tie him up the same way.
00:26:50.000 Tie him up with so much red tape they look like a Christmas tree.
00:26:52.000 You know what I mean?
00:26:53.000 Do the same tactics back that they did to you.
00:26:56.000 Now, is that revenge or retribution?
00:26:58.000 Sure, we'll call it retribution.
00:27:01.000 Accountability.
00:27:01.000 Yeah, accountability.
00:27:02.000 But the thing is, it's like, you have to, unfortunately, you have to play by these tactics because otherwise you will die by them.
00:27:08.000 I agree.
00:27:09.000 I think, you know, the thing I'm concerned about is the left scared everybody away by being brutal and authoritarian.
00:27:16.000 And so we have to make sure everybody knows...
00:27:19.000 Freedom's on the other side of the fire, right?
00:27:21.000 Stop pandering to these people, stop pretending, and you can do your thing.
00:27:26.000 Wasn't that the opposite of the messaging?
00:27:28.000 Like, their messaging was, ah, these authoritarian right-wing fascists are gonna come in, and this and that, and they're gonna take away your right to have an abortion, the ultimate freedom, you know?
00:27:37.000 That's the superliminal.
00:27:38.000 Yeah.
00:27:39.000 And you had the liminal and the subliminal.
00:27:40.000 And the subliminal was, speak out of line and we will destroy your life.
00:27:44.000 Yeah, I agree that that was the undercurrent.
00:27:46.000 I do agree with that, that that was the undercurrent.
00:27:47.000 But, you know, abortion was the left's big push on freedom, right?
00:27:51.000 That was their big push on freedom.
00:27:52.000 Yeah.
00:27:53.000 It didn't work.
00:27:53.000 Women went more to Trump.
00:27:54.000 Yeah, it turned out, and this actually did surprise me, I'm sure it surprised you to an extent as well, it turns out that there's far less women interested in murdering their children as previously advertised.
00:28:05.000 Well, the joke that I love was, women buy milk and eggs more than they get abortions.
00:28:10.000 Yeah.
00:28:11.000 So they're kind of like, well, you know, if I'm weighing my...
00:28:13.000 A lot of truth in that.
00:28:14.000 But regardless of what any of us dudes here think, young women under 30 skewed towards Trump by 11 points.
00:28:21.000 There was a shift towards Trump.
00:28:23.000 And then one of my favorite metrics was...
00:28:25.000 You think it's because Kamala was a woman...
00:28:27.000 Oh, I don't know.
00:28:28.000 One of my favorite metrics...
00:28:29.000 Nobody hates women more than women, right?
00:28:31.000 I was just going to say the exact same thing.
00:28:32.000 Nobody hates women more than women.
00:28:33.000 One of my favorite metrics was...
00:28:36.000 No, I forgot where I was going with it now.
00:28:38.000 Oh, sorry.
00:28:38.000 I was going to say I agree with these leftist loony liberals.
00:28:42.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:28:42.000 I remember now.
00:28:43.000 Sorry.
00:28:43.000 Go for it.
00:28:44.000 When the exit polling was asked, do you think democracy is under threat in the United States?
00:28:51.000 The largest block was, yes, we do think there was a 7% edge among people who said, yes, there's a threat to democracy in support for Trump.
00:29:03.000 So, basically, when they kept screaming, democracy under threat, most people said, that's right, and it's the lawfare you are engaged in against Trump and his lawyers.
00:29:13.000 I mean, is there data to show that that's the truth, or is that just inference?
00:29:18.000 There was a poll that was released.
00:29:22.000 Democracy was number one on the exit polls.
00:29:25.000 And then I think number two was, what, the economy?
00:29:27.000 What I'm saying is, is there a poll that delves further into the democracy thing where they're saying, no, it is actually the lawfare against Trump, not people saying that.
00:29:36.000 That's the inference.
00:29:37.000 Because otherwise, how do you get people thinking, democracy is under threat, I better vote for the guy who's threatening it?
00:29:44.000 No, it was because they were going after J6ers.
00:29:46.000 It's because they were going to Trump's lawyers.
00:29:49.000 That was crazy.
00:29:50.000 They ask me on YouGov a lot.
00:29:52.000 That was one of the questions, because I love my YouGov polls to participate.
00:29:55.000 And I did say, yes, democracy is under threat.
00:29:57.000 Because they didn't ask me why, Phil, but do you think it is?
00:30:01.000 Yeah, it does seem most likely.
00:30:03.000 And it's pretty clear that the narrative spun by the left just wasn't hitting home with people.
00:30:12.000 It wasn't having the effect that they wanted it to.
00:30:15.000 Well, if they had had Biden, I think they would have done better.
00:30:19.000 I think you're right, yeah.
00:30:20.000 I think they would have done better.
00:30:21.000 Kamala, the big thing with Kamala, when you say, this guy's a threat to democracy, and by the way, here's this candidate that was never democratically put in, right?
00:30:30.000 Never democratically put in, just happened to be a part of the ticket, and so we're going to run her anyway.
00:30:36.000 That was not a good look for them, that's one.
00:30:40.000 And then two, Kamala Harris...
00:30:43.000 And I'll say this, right?
00:30:45.000 You can disagree with me if you want.
00:30:46.000 Nobody wanted to listen to that chick's laugh for four years.
00:30:49.000 Totally.
00:30:49.000 Nobody wanted to listen to it.
00:30:50.000 I don't want to listen to it for 107 days.
00:30:55.000 The Democrats, I don't...
00:30:57.000 I mean, he may have done better, but I still don't think that he would have beat Trump because everyone saw the debate and it was clear that Joe Biden was not capable.
00:31:09.000 He was not going to be able to do the job.
00:31:12.000 And I don't, you know, especially considering it's another four years.
00:31:15.000 You know, it wasn't just like, hey, who do you like better for the next couple of weeks or whatever?
00:31:20.000 It's literally who do you think can run the country for the next four years?
00:31:23.000 There was also a really weird thing that happened after that debate that was bizarre.
00:31:26.000 We went, OK, clearly this guy's out to lunch.
00:31:29.000 Right.
00:31:30.000 And they would go, well, Trump looks like he has cognitive decline, too.
00:31:33.000 That was the strangest counter narrative that I'd ever seen.
00:31:37.000 I was like, what are you talking about?
00:31:39.000 They really leaned into the, I know you are, but what am I? Or, you know, like, they were just like, it was, well, Trump looks like he's got cognitive line.
00:31:47.000 And then Kamala Harris was like, build that wall, build that wall.
00:31:50.000 And, like, she threw on the mask.
00:31:51.000 You know, Biden put on a MAGA hat.
00:31:53.000 Like, they literally were leaning, like, they just started stealing his policy ideas with the no tax on tips and all that stuff.
00:32:00.000 So I... I do think that that hurt the Democrats as well.
00:32:03.000 Let's jump to this.
00:32:04.000 We got this from the Daily Mail.
00:32:06.000 Inside tense.
00:32:07.000 CNN all hands call where CEO warns staff not to obsess over Trump as they face layoffs.
00:32:13.000 They have no choice but to obsess over.
00:32:15.000 They got nothing left.
00:32:16.000 And then AP is going to be slashing 8% of their staff as major news outlets stop buying its content.
00:32:22.000 So over at CNN. You'd think the media would be super happy, right?
00:32:26.000 Like the media used when they were covering Trump and all the Trump outrage and this and that, like they were doing better than ever.
00:32:33.000 Yes.
00:32:33.000 Not anymore, right?
00:32:34.000 That's when they had the popular vote.
00:32:36.000 So Hillary Clinton wins the popular vote and they're like, let's lean into this.
00:32:39.000 More people hate Trump than like him.
00:32:42.000 That's the major majority market share.
00:32:44.000 CNN is in a bind now.
00:32:46.000 After 2020, they could lean into it as well.
00:32:48.000 But Trump kind of dipped out for a couple of years after 2021.
00:32:52.000 He was not, you know, Rhonda Sanders was actually the favorite to win for a period and predict it.
00:32:56.000 Once Trump comes back, they start gleefully twirling their mustaches.
00:33:00.000 Then Trump wins the popular vote, and now they're like, okay, we don't want to be the minority market share on this one.
00:33:05.000 If they double down and go anti-Trump for the next four years, they are intentionally burning down what little they have left.
00:33:12.000 Well, what do you think the strategy is, then?
00:33:13.000 They're not just going to let the guy govern.
00:33:15.000 Micah Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough were like, we met with Donald Trump and we're going to open those communications again.
00:33:20.000 Because they're like, that's it.
00:33:22.000 We're done.
00:33:23.000 MSNBC is, dude, on YouTube they get like 5,000 views.
00:33:28.000 Their key demo ratings are between like, it was 22 was their lowest.
00:33:33.000 It was Jen Psaki, she got 22,000.
00:33:35.000 You know what the worst thing in the world is for these people?
00:33:38.000 I mean, could you imagine being Jen Psaki looking into a camera and knowing that no one is listening?
00:33:43.000 That's MSNBC right now.
00:33:45.000 I mean, it's all of them.
00:33:47.000 But what about this?
00:33:49.000 Why did it take the Associated Press so long to call that election?
00:33:53.000 Why?
00:33:54.000 Which one?
00:33:55.000 This one.
00:33:55.000 Oh, right.
00:33:56.000 It took forever.
00:33:58.000 I mean, we knew.
00:34:00.000 Everyone knew.
00:34:00.000 Why won't the AP call it?
00:34:02.000 Why won't the AP call it?
00:34:04.000 Their credibility of all of the major news networks is basically dashed.
00:34:09.000 Even the left doesn't seem to like them anymore.
00:34:11.000 Nope.
00:34:12.000 And so I'm not sure exactly how they make a recovery from this.
00:34:15.000 I think maybe they just don't, right?
00:34:17.000 Maybe they just don't make a recovery.
00:34:18.000 I think, you know, CNN, with the views they're getting on YouTube, will not be able to afford any of their staff.
00:34:26.000 Are they getting more than MSNBC?
00:34:28.000 They are.
00:34:29.000 CNN gets between like 50 and 150.
00:34:32.000 Yeah.
00:34:32.000 It's not bad.
00:34:33.000 It's like mid to large size podcast.
00:34:35.000 So the bigger podcasts may get a lot more than that.
00:34:39.000 I think, you know, for Timcast IRL, our segments can vary dramatically like most podcasts.
00:34:44.000 So I don't know.
00:34:45.000 average on IRL like 80, but some of the clips are like 500.
00:34:49.000 The episodes are usually around 500 plus we have other platforms.
00:34:53.000 So all in all, we get 3.5 million on average because we do the average for the ad sales, which is happening now.
00:34:59.000 And then the morning show, I average 225k per video.
00:35:03.000 So sometimes they're smaller depending on the news day.
00:35:05.000 Sometimes they're bigger.
00:35:06.000 You scroll through CNNs.
00:35:08.000 It's not bad.
00:35:08.000 Mid to large size podcast.
00:35:09.000 Hey, how much can that really support?
00:35:11.000 You can't hire Anderson Cooper off those numbers.
00:35:14.000 Right.
00:35:14.000 He gets $20 million a year.
00:35:16.000 Doesn't that lady, what does she work for?
00:35:17.000 Caten Collins?
00:35:18.000 Is she MSNBC? No, she's CNN. She's CNN? $30 million bucks.
00:35:21.000 Can you believe that?
00:35:22.000 Yes.
00:35:22.000 Wow, she's got a good agent.
00:35:23.000 Yeah.
00:35:24.000 I mean, I, you know.
00:35:26.000 What does Scarborough pull down?
00:35:27.000 It's the pretty face.
00:35:28.000 Scarborough, I think, is like $5 million to $8 million.
00:35:30.000 It might be $8 million.
00:35:31.000 Let's check it out.
00:35:31.000 For $20,000?
00:35:33.000 It wasn't always that bad.
00:35:34.000 I know it wasn't.
00:35:35.000 It's been getting bad, though.
00:35:36.000 They get a million among people older than 72.
00:35:39.000 Yeah.
00:35:40.000 And so five more years, which it's not even about that.
00:35:43.000 There's no way.
00:35:45.000 Look.
00:35:46.000 They get the 72 and up crowd.
00:35:47.000 I think MSNBC is 72.
00:35:49.000 I think Fox is 67 and CNN is 70.
00:35:52.000 Yeah, it's bad.
00:35:53.000 He's 8 to 11 per year.
00:35:55.000 8 to 11.
00:35:55.000 The thing about MSNBC is people stop advertising even to those who are alive at a certain age.
00:36:01.000 There's very little to advertise because if you're in a nursing home where you're being taken care of by your family, you're not making these financial decisions anymore.
00:36:07.000 So Fox is big on reverse mortgages.
00:36:11.000 And it's like an old woman sitting in her house, and the guy is yelling at her, and he's like, you can get a term loan or whatever it is.
00:36:16.000 Life alerts.
00:36:17.000 A little life alert.
00:36:18.000 Reverse mortgage.
00:36:19.000 Reverse mortgage.
00:36:20.000 And they got Tom Selleck.
00:36:21.000 Gold.
00:36:22.000 Gold's the big one, too.
00:36:23.000 Gold is real big.
00:36:24.000 For old folks?
00:36:25.000 Or just...
00:36:26.000 For old folks.
00:36:26.000 Gold is actually legit, though.
00:36:28.000 Yeah.
00:36:28.000 Like, Costco did that gold sale, and they sold out right away because nobody trusts the state of the economy.
00:36:33.000 But, you know...
00:36:35.000 If that's all they got left is your 80, buy gold, I guess.
00:36:38.000 You got two years to live.
00:36:40.000 But here's the thing.
00:36:40.000 The reverse mortgage ads you see on these channels are basically like, you're going to die anyway.
00:36:44.000 Take the money now.
00:36:46.000 That's brutal.
00:36:47.000 Don't got kids?
00:36:48.000 So what?
00:36:48.000 But I mean, can you blame them?
00:36:51.000 Like, it's true.
00:36:51.000 It is true, right?
00:36:53.000 It's like, you're gonna die soon.
00:36:54.000 You might as well get the reverse mortgage.
00:36:56.000 But yeah, but back to this.
00:36:57.000 Yeah, I mean, we've known that the mainstream media was dying off for a long time.
00:37:02.000 I remember listening back years ago to Mark Dice.
00:37:06.000 And remember, he used to talk about this all the time.
00:37:08.000 He'd be like, look, I'm a guy in a kitchen.
00:37:11.000 Yeah.
00:37:11.000 Who does better than most of these mainstream media networks.
00:37:15.000 And he was right.
00:37:15.000 He was doing better.
00:37:17.000 2013, I went to the heads of Vice and I said, we should make a YouTube channel for each personality that you guys have signed as talent.
00:37:27.000 And you should have a producer come in and ask them to shoot a video where they explain the stories they're working on, what the stories are.
00:37:32.000 And you can do those once per day.
00:37:34.000 Hey, what's the latest?
00:37:36.000 And you are going to make bank.
00:37:37.000 And they're like, that's a really good idea.
00:37:39.000 And they never did it.
00:37:40.000 Mm-hmm.
00:37:40.000 And the reason why, largely because Vice was run by older Gen Xers, and I think mostly older Gen Xers, and the only thing they cared about was getting a cable contract.
00:37:51.000 Oh.
00:37:51.000 I mean, this is a company that was born from a physical magazine, and to them it was a cable contract.
00:37:57.000 You're talking about Gavin's Vice?
00:37:58.000 Yes.
00:37:59.000 Oh, okay.
00:37:59.000 So he was long gone.
00:38:00.000 Yeah.
00:38:01.000 But they were basically like, once we get that cable channel, we got guaranteed revenue.
00:38:04.000 And I was like, in 2013, you should be on YouTube.
00:38:07.000 For them, they were kind of like, yeah, we do YouTube, I don't know, whatever.
00:38:10.000 We want cable TV because YouTube was small.
00:38:13.000 Now YouTube's everything.
00:38:14.000 And Vice is bankrupt and wiped out.
00:38:16.000 They could have done it.
00:38:17.000 They could have had it.
00:38:18.000 They could have had exactly what we're doing right here.
00:38:20.000 And so could ABC News.
00:38:22.000 They don't listen because they're big machines that don't know how to adapt.
00:38:26.000 So now, what did they do?
00:38:28.000 You know what?
00:38:29.000 They chased after the short-term high.
00:38:30.000 They said, Orange Man is bad.
00:38:32.000 Run with it.
00:38:33.000 And now, Orange Man is not bad.
00:38:35.000 He's actually quite popular.
00:38:37.000 Everyone's doing the Trump shimmy, even the NFL. John Jones.
00:38:40.000 And now, Micah and Joe have no choice.
00:38:43.000 I bet Joe and Micah sat down, and Joe looked at Micah and was like...
00:38:49.000 Donald Trump's popular.
00:38:51.000 Who are we talking to?
00:38:52.000 And the producer came in and said, yeah, 28,000 Gidemo viewers.
00:38:56.000 You're talking to nobody.
00:38:57.000 And I got to be honest, Joe, those viewers, hotel lobbies.
00:39:01.000 That's it.
00:39:02.000 So no one listens anymore.
00:39:04.000 He's going to have to go pro-Trump.
00:39:06.000 And they dropped so many right after the election.
00:39:08.000 EOC's trying too.
00:39:09.000 Because...
00:39:11.000 Shoot.
00:39:12.000 Because Monday, they called him, was it right next?
00:39:14.000 He's adjacent to Hitler.
00:39:16.000 And then by Friday, they're having lunch with the guy.
00:39:18.000 Lunch with Hitler.
00:39:20.000 Yeah.
00:39:20.000 When you spend as much time doing exactly what we're talking about, calling him Hitler, calling all the most terrible names that you can come up with and say that he's literally the reincarnation of the worst dictator of the 20th century, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:39:37.000 And then he wins, not just the Electoral College, but wins the popular vote.
00:39:43.000 Smart people are gonna recalibrate.
00:39:45.000 And you have to say, okay, look, this didn't work.
00:39:50.000 What am I missing?
00:39:52.000 Right now, I do think that they deserve to be scrutinized.
00:39:55.000 I'm not saying that you should respect them.
00:39:56.000 I only see them doubling down, though.
00:39:59.000 I mean, well, these dinosaurs may not, but if you look at these general YouTubers or people like this who are now dispensing the news, right?
00:40:08.000 These are the guys who are now dispensing it.
00:40:11.000 They may use these as sources, but people are getting...
00:40:15.000 They're getting their news from all these little, tiny, little, you know, little channels everywhere.
00:40:19.000 They might use these as sources, but that's where people are getting it.
00:40:22.000 They're doubling down.
00:40:23.000 They're like, look, absolutely Democrats don't need to change anything.
00:40:27.000 This was a fluke.
00:40:27.000 This was a one-off.
00:40:29.000 Yeah, Hassan.
00:40:30.000 All those terrible people.
00:40:32.000 Yeah, your destinies.
00:40:33.000 They are, but they're all idiots.
00:40:35.000 And they're feeding their...
00:40:37.000 Yeah, but why should we expect change from them, then, if that's where they know?
00:40:41.000 That's not what I'm...
00:40:41.000 Was it you debating destiny?
00:40:43.000 I was making...
00:40:43.000 I don't know if it was you debating destiny, but someone brought up democracy.
00:40:47.000 He was saying that Trump was a threat to democracy or something like this, and then someone mentioned if Trump wins the popular vote, isn't that democracy?
00:40:54.000 And he was just like, oh, well.
00:40:56.000 Well, now, is it really about democracy?
00:40:59.000 No.
00:40:59.000 I wonder.
00:41:00.000 Well, of course, I know that the answer is no.
00:41:01.000 I'm saying he wants to make the argument that it's about democracy only because they won the popular vote and assumed Kamala was going to win the popular vote.
00:41:08.000 Bill Maher said Trump can't win.
00:41:10.000 He's not going to win.
00:41:11.000 Kamala is going to get the popular vote at least once they realized that was not true.
00:41:14.000 And Trump is the more popular side of history.
00:41:17.000 Now, so many of these people are changing their tunes.
00:41:20.000 I doubt Kyle or Pacman or Sam Seid or any of these people.
00:41:24.000 No.
00:41:24.000 Destiny, they're not going to change their tunes because they've embedded themselves in this fringe ideology and hateful rhetoric.
00:41:31.000 they're in trouble Big trouble.
00:41:34.000 Because what happened with the adpocalypse and cancellation is going to start happening to them.
00:41:38.000 It's quite simple.
00:41:39.000 It's already happening on Twitch.
00:41:41.000 Oh, they're getting banned.
00:41:42.000 Yeah, banned.
00:41:43.000 Done.
00:41:43.000 Lefties are?
00:41:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:45.000 There was a big story recently.
00:41:46.000 Who was the big ban?
00:41:47.000 They're fighting right now with Hassan, right?
00:41:50.000 The Twitter ad-pocalypse.
00:41:51.000 Yeah, the Twitter ad-pocalypse.
00:41:52.000 Sorry, the Twitch ad-pocalypse.
00:41:52.000 Yeah, Twitch.
00:41:53.000 Twitch ad-pocalypse.
00:41:54.000 I mean, the thing is, you see this across the board.
00:41:58.000 The left is getting absolutely demolished on rhetoric.
00:42:01.000 They overplayed their hands.
00:42:03.000 But these create...
00:42:03.000 I'm telling you, none of these newscasters, leftist newscasters, leftist creators...
00:42:08.000 Are saying anything other than double down, double down, double down.
00:42:11.000 The TikTok trends that I see when I engage with these TikTok lunatics all over the internet, and I do it all the time, is the same exact thing.
00:42:19.000 Double down, double down, double down, double down.
00:42:21.000 They say orange man bad.
00:42:23.000 Trump is bad.
00:42:24.000 We're not changing anything.
00:42:26.000 They don't seem like they want to change anything.
00:42:27.000 Let's jump to this from Tribune.com.pk.
00:42:31.000 I have no idea what this is.
00:42:32.000 What is this?
00:42:32.000 The Express Tribune.
00:42:33.000 They say, Asmongold blames Hasan Abhi for Twitch's adpocalypse affecting streamers' ad revenue.
00:42:38.000 It's actually Destiny's...
00:42:40.000 Destiny is?
00:42:41.000 It's not Destiny himself.
00:42:42.000 It's Destiny's followers, because they're going after him.
00:42:46.000 Let's get the story first.
00:42:47.000 They say, Asmongold explained his position during his broadcast, saying, Hasan clearly is one of the biggest proponents of this.
00:42:52.000 I would say he is the main reason.
00:42:54.000 He added that a majority of the examples used in discussions about demonetization on Twitch pertain to Hasan Abhi.
00:42:59.000 That's Hasan Piker.
00:43:00.000 Maybe not 90, maybe 80, 70, but it is the majority of all examples in the entire platform.
00:43:06.000 The adpocalypse refers to a reduction in ad revenue across Twitch, reportedly affecting some creators by as much as 90%.
00:43:12.000 Industry experts, including Devin Nash, have previously linked the issue to polarizing political content on the platform.
00:43:18.000 Hassan Abe has faced criticism for his coverage of Middle Eastern conflicts with allegations of promoting anti-Semitic rhetoric.
00:43:24.000 U.S. Congressman Richie Torres even cited Hassan Piker in a congressional letter accusing Twitch of amplifying extremist voices.
00:43:31.000 Asmongold defended his stance stating, you can say it's unfair, that's fine, but you can't say that it's not happening, or that it's not the reason.
00:43:37.000 He also criticized Twitch for its inconsistent moderation policies.
00:43:41.000 They go ahead and mention that Twitch has not officially commented on the controversy, but recently updated its hateful conduct policy regarding the term Zionist.
00:43:48.000 Because the ADL told him to.
00:43:50.000 Is that...
00:43:50.000 Well, look.
00:43:51.000 Hey, man.
00:43:52.000 Yeah, knocking the ADL and putting a policy.
00:43:54.000 They said, nope, you gotta do this.
00:43:56.000 They capitulated to the ADL immediately.
00:43:58.000 This is liberals and leftists welcomes to Leopard Ate My Face.
00:44:02.000 Yeah.
00:44:02.000 Leopards Ate My Face.
00:44:03.000 This is...
00:44:04.000 They advocated and...
00:44:06.000 Begged!
00:44:06.000 And to this day, they still beg for it.
00:44:09.000 And I am happy to watch them crumble and wither into a dried husk of their former selves.
00:44:14.000 Well, the gamers all over Twitch are like, no.
00:44:17.000 Get all...
00:44:18.000 They want all political content off of Twitch.
00:44:21.000 Gamers are begging Twitch.
00:44:23.000 Get rid of political content.
00:44:25.000 We don't want it.
00:44:26.000 We want ad-friendly content.
00:44:28.000 That's us gaming, right?
00:44:29.000 That's ad-friendly content.
00:44:30.000 We don't want this.
00:44:31.000 But Twitch, for Twitch, these guys are cash cows, right?
00:44:36.000 Hassan, they're cash cows.
00:44:37.000 Destiny has a viral video right now where he says that all of the people on the right should be banned.
00:44:45.000 Including you.
00:44:46.000 Including me.
00:44:46.000 He says people like...
00:44:48.000 By name?
00:44:49.000 By name.
00:44:49.000 I don't know who else he mentions.
00:44:50.000 I don't remember.
00:44:51.000 But he says Tim Pool.
00:44:51.000 These people, they're only awful and their platform should be totally banned.
00:44:55.000 And I'm like...
00:44:55.000 Oh, he said Tucker Carlson.
00:44:57.000 He said Tim Pool.
00:44:58.000 He said there was multiple personalities.
00:45:00.000 I'm in complete agreement right now with him, and I'm glad he brought it up, because we hold the power of the institutions.
00:45:06.000 We won the popular vote.
00:45:08.000 The advertisers are siding with X, and he's going to get himself banned for screaming this, and bye-bye, Destiny.
00:45:13.000 Yo, Disney came back to X, too, even.
00:45:15.000 That's what I'm talking about.
00:45:15.000 All the major corporations are coming back to X because Destiny and his ilk are on the wrong side of history.
00:45:20.000 Destiny wanted to make the argument about democracy and all that.
00:45:23.000 Well, he's anti-democracy.
00:45:24.000 The more he complains, he is opposed to the will of the people.
00:45:28.000 So if he wants to advocate for bannings, I say, well, don't look at me.
00:45:31.000 But my stance on this has changed.
00:45:33.000 By the way, this guy's always been a de-platformer.
00:45:37.000 I mean, going way back, he's always been the advocate for de-platforming, unless it's him.
00:45:43.000 Ten years ago, I was in the, we shouldn't ban people, we protect free speech, even for those who disagree with camp.
00:45:49.000 Now I'm in the, I do not defend my enemies.
00:45:53.000 Destiny wants to burn down free speech.
00:45:56.000 I say, hey man, you're on your own.
00:45:57.000 So when they start ripping their revenue away and banning them out, and Hassan as well, I just say, sucks for you guys, I guess.
00:46:03.000 I ain't gonna speak up for you.
00:46:04.000 No.
00:46:04.000 Yeah, like, I mean, I'm not- No, suffer!
00:46:06.000 Suffer!
00:46:06.000 Yeah, I'm not- I'm not gonna sit there- I would never go and go out of my way to try and, like, get someone banned, but I'm not gonna do- I'm not gonna lift one finger- Right.
00:46:14.000 I'm not gonna waste one- A bit of breath trying to defend him.
00:46:19.000 Or anyone that says, oh, these people should be banned.
00:46:22.000 If you're advocating for banning people, beat it.
00:46:25.000 I'm not going to defend you.
00:46:26.000 What these people are saying is even so much worse than that.
00:46:28.000 It's not even just the idea of democracy.
00:46:30.000 What Destiny was saying in that video clip, and I've heard this echoed from guys like Pac-Man and many others, is that all of humanity is benefited from...
00:46:38.000 By you being gone.
00:46:40.000 You even having a place to say anything is an existential threat to humankind itself.
00:46:46.000 That's what he was saying.
00:46:47.000 And all that happens is that the world's gonna improve by getting rid of you.
00:46:51.000 That's a call to action.
00:46:53.000 That's an actual call to action.
00:46:55.000 That's, we must do this.
00:46:56.000 We need to get rid of these people.
00:46:57.000 How is it not, if you say, these people are an existential threat to everybody, How's that not really a call to action?
00:47:04.000 Because that's what it sounds like to me.
00:47:06.000 There's a reason why, and this is actually a fascinating metric I'd love to study.
00:47:09.000 Maybe we could hire like a, maybe People's Pundit.
00:47:13.000 Rich Bares could help us out with this.
00:47:15.000 After the election, that was a major inflection point.
00:47:19.000 CNN and MSNBC's ratings collapsed.
00:47:21.000 David Pakman, Brian Tyler Cohen, they started bleeding subscribers.
00:47:25.000 And he made a big deal out of it.
00:47:27.000 And then when we responded, he made another big deal out of it.
00:47:30.000 If you look at their accounts on X, AOC lost like 150k this month, more now.
00:47:36.000 They're fleeing to BlueSky or other apps.
00:47:38.000 And so we saw in the inverse, Fox News' ratings go up.
00:47:43.000 Our viewership skyrocketed.
00:47:46.000 We jumped a substantial amount.
00:47:47.000 We are still seeing increased ratings.
00:47:49.000 Right now we're at 60,625 concurrent views, where we were averaging before like 45k.
00:47:54.000 So we've seen a boost.
00:47:56.000 I'm wondering if this is...
00:47:58.000 Regular people were watching these leftists, these liberals, believed them, saw that the majority of the country did not agree.
00:48:04.000 Some of them either asked themselves, am I wrong?
00:48:07.000 Some of them said, oh crap, I'm on the wrong side of history.
00:48:09.000 But I'm wondering if we can actually track that sentiment among people who ditched the liberal shows and are rushing over here.
00:48:16.000 And I think then the reason why people like Destiny are saying we'd be better off without them is because then the viewers would have nowhere else to go and they'd be trapped in his sycophantic lie machine.
00:48:27.000 Well, it's always been the case that the leftists on Twitch and on YouTube have always pulled their resources, especially on Twitch, to remove any right-wing personality who existed there.
00:48:40.000 A good example of this, Fuentes was on Twitch.
00:48:43.000 He was vastly popular.
00:48:45.000 I think, to my understanding, he did follow the terms of service that they had set down at the time.
00:48:49.000 They got rid of him because leftists collectively demanded that they get rid of him.
00:48:54.000 That was it.
00:48:54.000 And it's because, why?
00:48:56.000 Well, he siphoned a ton of viewers.
00:48:58.000 And because of that, he siphons their money.
00:49:01.000 And that's what it comes down to, right?
00:49:02.000 You're exactly right.
00:49:03.000 They want to have the pool of viewership and the pool of cash.
00:49:06.000 So, yeah, they do collectively demand often that right-wingers be removed from these platforms.
00:49:11.000 Whether they're breaking the TOS or not, they don't care.
00:49:13.000 And they'll make shit up.
00:49:15.000 I've seen them make up various things.
00:49:17.000 I've seen them say, this guy's advocating for transgender genocide and all sorts of crazy things that nobody ever said anything about in order to push reports to various platforms to get you deplatformed.
00:49:28.000 The craziest thing I've been talking about for the past month, I went onto the front page of YouTube.
00:49:32.000 I normally don't look...
00:49:34.000 I don't go onto YouTube and look at default not signed in account, like a fresh browser login.
00:49:41.000 Yeah.
00:49:41.000 And I started to because we saw our viewership spike randomly.
00:49:45.000 And I was like, okay, we got to be featured.
00:49:47.000 Like, they put you on the front page, your viewership is going to jump.
00:49:49.000 So I go to the front page, and sure enough, I see Timcast IRL. And I'm like, wow, something changed in the algorithm.
00:49:54.000 I don't know if it's after the CEO passed on, you know, rest in peace, no disrespect.
00:49:59.000 The new CEO had a change of heart and said, let's, if the show's good, it's good.
00:50:03.000 Put it on the front page.
00:50:04.000 What I noticed, though, when I started looking...
00:50:06.000 There are channels that will take a clip of me from this show talking about, I don't know, roosters, and then put that in a screen with Cenk Uygur who is talking about tax rates from five years ago and make it seem like we're debating.
00:50:19.000 And they'll get 30,000 views on it and make money.
00:50:22.000 That's insane and freaky stuff.
00:50:25.000 So you'll get a video where, I can't remember, one of them I saw made the claim that me and Cenk Uygur were fighting with each other and we were enemies and I was like, that's really weird.
00:50:37.000 We were talking to him about coming on the show and everything was cordial.
00:50:40.000 We disagree, but he's been cordial.
00:50:41.000 So I clicked the video and it was a total fabrication.
00:50:44.000 And it had like 38,000 views or something.
00:50:47.000 And I was like, holy crap!
00:50:48.000 I went back and I saw a bunch of these Ben Shapiro debating a guy and different channels doing it.
00:50:53.000 They realize that this space and these debates get traffic and people want to see it.
00:50:57.000 They realize that big names attract the viewers and so they can make a fake video They don't call it parody or anything like that.
00:51:05.000 They just say, wow, look at this.
00:51:07.000 Whoa.
00:51:07.000 And they play it.
00:51:08.000 It's nuts.
00:51:08.000 I mean, that's been going on for years.
00:51:10.000 People tapping into the large content creators have conflict.
00:51:13.000 Making these fake videos I've never seen before.
00:51:15.000 Yeah, they've been doing it for a while.
00:51:18.000 Making videos from two different channels totally unrelated to each other and combining them to make a fake debate.
00:51:22.000 Well, maybe not specifically that.
00:51:25.000 Was it an actual fake debate that they hosted?
00:51:28.000 Oh, really?
00:51:29.000 It was like...
00:51:31.000 A short video with a couple clips.
00:51:33.000 One of them was me, and I can't remember exactly what it was, but let's say I'm talking about, you know, Joe Biden comes out and says, Trin and I shot out of pressure.
00:51:41.000 And then I go, what was that?
00:51:43.000 That was gibberish nonsense.
00:51:45.000 The man's not even speaking English now.
00:51:46.000 How could you sit there and tell me this guy is giving me an honest argument?
00:51:50.000 And then it would be a clip of Cenk Uygur going, don't, no, don't say that.
00:51:54.000 That's ridiculous.
00:51:55.000 Yeah, but I mean, that's an old way to do satire, too.
00:51:58.000 Yeah, but this was not satire.
00:52:00.000 It was a guy hosting it going, hey guys, so I was watching the debate with Tim and Cenk, and it was really crazy because Tim was saying this, and I was like, what?
00:52:08.000 Just totally fabricated?
00:52:09.000 Yes, 100%.
00:52:10.000 And there were a bunch of them from different people, and I was like, yo, what is this?
00:52:15.000 That's freaky.
00:52:16.000 So they just look at what's trending in the algo, maybe, and then try to push that content out.
00:52:21.000 Certain names make good clicks.
00:52:23.000 Yeah, of course.
00:52:23.000 It's like when people make the clips from this show where they edit it in funny ways, where it's like me and Ian staring into each other's eyes, and then the next clip is like, we're not there anymore, and then, you know, those are funny.
00:52:33.000 But these videos are weird.
00:52:36.000 Anyway, to your point, the reason I bring it up, it is, like, Sam Seder is the king of this.
00:52:41.000 He just makes things up every day.
00:52:43.000 It's like his whole show is just fabricated.
00:52:46.000 The dude literally came on the Culture War podcast.
00:52:49.000 I know, I watched it.
00:52:49.000 Did you see when he said, that's the clip I was trying to get?
00:52:52.000 He admitted to doing it!
00:52:53.000 So, this guy, Sam Seder...
00:52:55.000 That was a really...
00:52:57.000 He was very...
00:52:57.000 So I was expecting when he came on that this was going to be a really kind of a good exchange because Cedar is known as being a fairly decent debater inside of these spheres.
00:53:07.000 I never thought so, but he's known for being one.
00:53:10.000 And he was just kind of doddering.
00:53:12.000 He was like, I want to make an allegation, but I can't make an allegation, but I want to make an allegation.
00:53:17.000 The best example is...
00:53:19.000 I outright said I'm pro-choice.
00:53:20.000 I think, due to the impossibility of regulating certain issues pertaining to health, and so I said, the Supreme...
00:53:28.000 So I don't want to reiterate the whole argument.
00:53:30.000 The point was, Supreme Court has to give us an answer on personhood as to whether the 14th Amendment applies to the unborn as persons, not citizens.
00:53:37.000 We don't have that.
00:53:38.000 I believe a conservative court will, and that will ban abortion overnight.
00:53:41.000 It would require adjudication for it.
00:53:43.000 Personally, I said, as of right now, I'm more pro-choice.
00:53:46.000 I think abortion is wrong.
00:53:47.000 But I see an impossibility in properly regulating it right now because of various issues.
00:53:52.000 Cringe, Tim.
00:53:53.000 Cringe, Tim.
00:53:54.000 And that's fine.
00:53:55.000 And I said, so I think, I don't know if it's 15, 18, 22 weeks, whatever that number is, we'll find where a woman can just go in.
00:54:01.000 And I said, there are questions of consent.
00:54:03.000 He then asks me a hypothetical.
00:54:05.000 How would you deal with consent?
00:54:07.000 I'm like...
00:54:08.000 We should get a rape kit, I guess.
00:54:10.000 And he was like, so a woman would have to get a rape kit to prove that she didn't consent.
00:54:12.000 And I was like, yes.
00:54:14.000 My argument was never that I thought women should be forced to do these things.
00:54:19.000 Mine was I'm pro-choice up to a certain amount pre-viability.
00:54:22.000 A woman doesn't need a reason at all.
00:54:23.000 I think it's wrong.
00:54:24.000 And we want to go the Ron Paul route.
00:54:26.000 It should be unthinkable, not illegal.
00:54:28.000 In the event of consent, he asks me.
00:54:30.000 He then goes off and starts saying things like, you're disgusting.
00:54:35.000 You son of a, you're so gross.
00:54:37.000 And I'm sitting here being like, oh, here he goes.
00:54:39.000 You're trying to get a clip.
00:54:41.000 After he was finished with his overly emotional rant, he just calms down and goes, that was the clip I was trying to get.
00:54:46.000 Outright admitting on the show he just wanted to cause a scene.
00:54:52.000 It's remarkable.
00:54:53.000 This is what the left does, and this is why they lose.
00:54:57.000 If I said something to you like, if you were a leftist, Andrew, if you were like a hardcore leftist, what do you think, tax-wise, What tax rate would you advocate for?
00:55:08.000 90% of the rent.
00:55:09.000 You insane!
00:55:10.000 You really?
00:55:10.000 And then...
00:55:11.000 You're disgusting!
00:55:12.000 And then what we do is we clip the part where I say, what tax rate would you advocate for?
00:55:15.000 You say 90%.
00:55:16.000 Yeah.
00:55:16.000 And I claim...
00:55:17.000 And that's what he does, and it's fake.
00:55:18.000 His whole show is fake.
00:55:20.000 And...
00:55:21.000 This is what they do.
00:55:22.000 And so the reason why they don't like the competition is because they want to be able to lie, manipulate the algorithm, make money.
00:55:28.000 They are what they project onto others.
00:55:31.000 They say everyone else is grifting, and it's one big scam.
00:55:35.000 But you know what?
00:55:36.000 Greg Gutfeld, I gotta give him credit for it every time I say this because it was masterfully said.
00:55:40.000 The left, their whole worldview is downstream from hoaxes.
00:55:45.000 Everything they talk about is derivative of a hoax, but once you see through one of them, there's no going back.
00:55:52.000 My response to that is, that explains SNL, for instance.
00:55:55.000 The jokes on SNL that don't make sense, where they have RFK Jr.
00:55:59.000 out and come out and be like, gotta get rid of all the vaccines!
00:56:01.000 And I was like...
00:56:03.000 What's the joke?
00:56:03.000 I mean, RFK Jr.
00:56:04.000 is not anti-vax.
00:56:05.000 Ah, it's because in their hoax world, they think he hates vaccines.
00:56:08.000 And then you actually listen to the guy like any sane person, and he's like, I think vaccines should undergo rigorous testing like every other medication, and I recommend them.
00:56:16.000 And you're like, oh.
00:56:17.000 So it's like a moderate position.
00:56:19.000 It's totally normal.
00:56:21.000 Yeah, well, in satire, if it doesn't point at the truth, isn't funny.
00:56:24.000 That's the point, right?
00:56:25.000 And so when people say Saturday Night Live, for instance, isn't funny, because you're not pointing at the truth.
00:56:32.000 If you're not pointing at the truth, you can't have any humor.
00:56:35.000 Otherwise, what are we even talking about?
00:56:37.000 So anyway, I digress.
00:56:39.000 I'm done ranting about those people.
00:56:40.000 So what?
00:56:41.000 Twitch revenue is just flat.
00:56:43.000 The stock guy says his ad revenue is down 95%.
00:56:47.000 YouTube ad revenue is way up.
00:56:48.000 Twitch had a great opportunity with their platform before they sold out.
00:56:54.000 They had some great shows on there with some great talent, and they literally buckled under to Hassan Piker.
00:57:02.000 I mean, basically, whatever Hassan wants on that platform, Hassan gets, and that's that.
00:57:06.000 So if you're a popular right wing entertainer or commentator, you go on there and you make fun of the golden boy, you're gone.
00:57:15.000 I mean, that's it.
00:57:16.000 So Twitch has always been unfriendly to the right.
00:57:18.000 Everybody knows.
00:57:19.000 Oh, yeah.
00:57:19.000 But now it's just it's so it's so beyond obvious.
00:57:23.000 And that's why the gamers there like, look, isn't isn't Twitch Amazon?
00:57:28.000 Well, I think Bezos must have had a conversation with somebody.
00:57:32.000 He comes out and says, Washington Post, we're not going to endorse.
00:57:35.000 He's like, oh, we have to be impartial.
00:57:38.000 I think when the left started saying that they were going to pass these taxes on unrealized gains… And he actually got us to defend Jeff Bezos.
00:57:48.000 I should say that the left got us to defend Jeff Bezos.
00:57:50.000 I'm like, Bezos doesn't make a billion dollars a year.
00:57:53.000 His salary, I think, is one million plus.
00:57:55.000 No, it's 80,000 plus bonus.
00:57:57.000 So he makes a couple million dollars per year.
00:57:59.000 He takes out loans against his stock.
00:58:01.000 He cannot sell the stock because of contractual obligations with the structure of the company.
00:58:06.000 Yeah, but he takes out the loans so he doesn't have to pay taxes on the money.
00:58:09.000 Well, he can't take out the money.
00:58:10.000 So this is the issue.
00:58:12.000 He owns Amazon.
00:58:14.000 When he wants to sell stock, the stock has to reach a threshold before he can liquidate it.
00:58:19.000 So if we were to tax him on unrealized gains, he'd be like, I don't have any of that money.
00:58:23.000 And they'd be like, sell your stock.
00:58:24.000 I'm not legally allowed to sell the stock.
00:58:27.000 If the government then intervened in the Amazon contract to force him to sell the stock, it would...
00:58:32.000 Yeah, but what is the idea here, though, that you set the company up so that it operates that way, so you can take out loans.
00:58:39.000 You're taking out loans against what your potential net worth is, because on a loan, when you're paying the loan back, you don't have to pay any taxes on that.
00:58:45.000 You don't have to set up the company that way to do that.
00:58:49.000 So if you are the owner of a company and you have liquid stock and you unrealize a million dollars in gains, you have an unrealized gains of a million bucks, you could liquidate the stock or you can get a loan against it.
00:58:59.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:59:00.000 Bezos' structure, for whatever reason, by all means, accuse him of that structure or otherwise, he can't just sell.
00:59:06.000 But there is no unrealized gains tax, so there's no reason to do that.
00:59:10.000 The structure, I think, has to do with the investors who came in, and if he were to sell too much stock at once, it would tank the value of the company.
00:59:17.000 If they pass unrealized taxes like Kamala wanted to do, he's screwed.
00:59:21.000 He loses the company.
00:59:23.000 So he must have been like, turn it around.
00:59:27.000 Twitch, Washington Post, everything.
00:59:29.000 We're pro-Trump now.
00:59:30.000 Or at the very least, neutral.
00:59:33.000 But to be honest, the advertisers leaving Twitch likely has more to do with the Zionism stuff.
00:59:40.000 Hasan Piker said some real messed up stuff.
00:59:42.000 I mean, it's part of it.
00:59:44.000 But I mean, it's been happening for a while.
00:59:46.000 The decline of Twitch has been going on for a while, especially with Twitch politics.
00:59:50.000 Twitch politics used to be a pretty brutal place that was kind of fun to go to.
00:59:54.000 Had a lot of good political commentators there.
00:59:57.000 That's all done.
00:59:58.000 It just doesn't even exist there anymore.
01:00:00.000 Now all that exists is a couple of these big personalities, and if they want you off, you're off.
01:00:06.000 The gamers absolutely hate any political talk whatsoever because it's supposed to be a gaming platform, right?
01:00:13.000 So, you know, it doesn't make any sense.
01:00:16.000 Their moderation policy makes no sense, and people just stop watching it.
01:00:19.000 They just don't want to support it.
01:00:20.000 Let's shift back to politics.
01:00:22.000 We got the story from the Post Millennial.
01:00:23.000 This is big news.
01:00:24.000 PA Supreme Court demands Bucks County follow ruling to not count ineligible ballots during Senate race recount.
01:00:30.000 Well, we've got a couple candidates for the investigation Matt Gaetz could launch.
01:00:38.000 This is, Chuck Ross says, Diane Ellis Marseglia, the Bucks County Commissioner who was openly breaking the law to count invalid ballots, contributed to Bob Casey's campaign in September.
01:00:47.000 For those who don't know, this is the third time the PA Supreme Court has told Democrats to stop counting illegal ballots.
01:00:54.000 I don't think they're going to stop.
01:00:56.000 The funny thing is, everyone in the country is watching this happen.
01:00:59.000 The New York Times and NBC have even been critical, or at the very least pointed out, that Democrats are openly breaking the law and stating they're doing it.
01:01:09.000 Arrest him?
01:01:11.000 Yes!
01:01:13.000 Why is that such a foreign concept?
01:01:16.000 It's like, yeah, arrest him.
01:01:18.000 Once Trump gets into office, whoever ends up being the AG needs to go and send the FBI and arrest them because they're trying to tamper with elections.
01:01:26.000 Clearly.
01:01:27.000 They're knowingly tampering with elections, so go wrap them up.
01:01:31.000 Go ahead and send, if you want to send an entry team to their door at 6 in the morning, 5 in the morning, I'm all for that.
01:01:39.000 I think you have the opposite result, too, that people think.
01:01:42.000 Like, people think, oh, everyone's going to think you're an authoritarian in this.
01:01:45.000 I think most people would be like, it's about fucking time.
01:01:48.000 It's about time.
01:01:50.000 Take a look at this Bucks County Senate race.
01:01:52.000 It was McCormick and now it flipped Bob Casey.
01:01:54.000 It's not going to change the results.
01:01:56.000 And I think the New York Times hasn't even called the Senate race, to be completely honest.
01:02:00.000 Yeah, the New York Times won't call it, despite the fact that Casey cannot win.
01:02:05.000 So now, the New York Times is actually counting what everyone knows to be illegal ballots.
01:02:11.000 This number should not be inverted.
01:02:13.000 The New York Times should not be calculating illegal ballots that the Supreme Court of PA said do not count.
01:02:19.000 That's wild that they're doing this.
01:02:21.000 And that lady says she was going to count the illegal votes just to make sure that the higher courts pay attention to it.
01:02:26.000 Well, if we get our DOJ in there, they're going to definitely pay attention to it.
01:02:30.000 Well, not if.
01:02:30.000 It's just a matter of when.
01:02:32.000 Because, I mean, if Donald Trump will be inaugurated and, like, there's going to be someone that's going to be the...
01:02:38.000 Republicans have this really bad habit of doing this.
01:02:42.000 Okay, that's all in the past.
01:02:44.000 We're all going to look forward now to the future.
01:02:46.000 We're going to let all of this go.
01:02:48.000 They have a bad habit of doing this.
01:02:50.000 New world.
01:02:51.000 I understand what you're saying, but I do think that...
01:02:55.000 Especially the people around Trump.
01:02:56.000 Trump is looking to go in and get rid of a lot of the corruption.
01:03:01.000 That is the mandate, as far as I can tell.
01:03:05.000 That's the mandate that he's got, to get in and drain the swamp.
01:03:09.000 He said that he was going to do it in his first...
01:03:14.000 Term.
01:03:15.000 Term, thank you.
01:03:16.000 But he obviously wasn't prepared to do it because he didn't understand how the government worked, how deep the rot went, etc.
01:03:25.000 Now he's got significantly more information.
01:03:29.000 He's much wiser.
01:03:31.000 He's not nearly as naive as he was.
01:03:33.000 Now, again, I'm not saying that he's going to be perfectly successful, but there is going to be an actual, I believe that there's going to be an actual, real attempt that's not just like, oh, I'm going to go in there and fire everybody.
01:03:46.000 I think that the last four years that he's had without being the president, I think it's all very good that that happened, honestly.
01:03:53.000 As much as people want to say, you know, 2020 was...
01:03:56.000 I agree.
01:03:56.000 It was unfairly decided.
01:03:57.000 It's good that he had that happen because you had not just to see what they did when he was in office, but the way that they treated him and the things that they've tried to do since he was out of office.
01:04:07.000 Well, he doesn't have anything to lose.
01:04:09.000 No, nothing to lose.
01:04:10.000 He has nothing to lose at this point in the next four years.
01:04:12.000 He's got four years to basically get rid of these scumbags who have done this for 18 months.
01:04:18.000 He has 18 months.
01:04:19.000 He doesn't have four years, because once the races for the midterm start, he's not going to get any kind of support from Congress.
01:04:26.000 Unless there's not a flip.
01:04:28.000 Fair enough, but you don't know.
01:04:31.000 But he has to get it done as soon as possible.
01:04:33.000 And I would agree with you, because we were talking with...
01:04:36.000 I can't remember what we had on the show, they said...
01:04:38.000 Roger Stone, right?
01:04:39.000 No.
01:04:40.000 Roger Stone was not on the show for a minute.
01:04:42.000 Shit.
01:04:43.000 Once you get to the midterm cycle, a lot of these squishy Republicans are going to be too scared to take these actions because they'll lose.
01:04:49.000 However, I'm going to make the argument now that I don't know is guaranteed, but I think right now the shape of this country is if Republicans try and play that game, they'll lose no matter what.
01:04:58.000 If Republicans play the, I'm not going to do anything, they lose.
01:05:02.000 Goodbye.
01:05:02.000 Because no Republican will vote for you.
01:05:04.000 So if you're a Republican and you want to win, the only option you have is to get behind the popular agenda.
01:05:10.000 Because if time comes and you say...
01:05:12.000 You know, look, I'm in a moderate district, so I'm not gonna support Trump's agenda and hope I can win Democrat votes.
01:05:17.000 Every Republican will primary you.
01:05:20.000 They'll be like, you are done, and we're gonna get someone else to run against you.
01:05:22.000 We are sick and tired of them sitting on their hands writing strongly worded letters.
01:05:27.000 Well, yeah, but the threat is primary.
01:05:30.000 He's gotta get as much done as possible as long as there is the capacity to primary the people that decide they're not gonna go along with him.
01:05:39.000 Well, we never primary anybody.
01:05:41.000 No, but the point is that there's a lot of people that are ready to do it, and there's money to do it, too, because Elon Musk said that his America PAC will fund primary challenges.
01:05:50.000 So get on board, Republicans.
01:05:52.000 Again, Donald Trump has 18 months, and if you're going to inhibit what the American people have voted for, which is to do as much damage to the corrupt people People in the bureaucracy, in the entrenched bureaucracy, get as many of the corrupt people out of there and put them in jail.
01:06:11.000 If you're going to stand in the way, you're going to get primaried.
01:06:14.000 There's no question about that.
01:06:16.000 Musk's got a boatload of money in the American pack, and they're going to be watching for people that don't fall in line to support the agenda.
01:06:24.000 Musk has a massive information machine.
01:06:29.000 I mean, the idea here is that working in tandem with Trump, that they can identify who these people are, so that the Justice Department can go after them and the American people are informed of what's happening.
01:06:42.000 And because of X, and because of people like Tim, this show here and stuff, these elected officials, they're going to be put on blast.
01:06:50.000 If we get wind of it, someone that's been hindering the efforts to actually get the corrupt people.
01:06:57.000 Again, we're not trying to go after people that are innocent or just trying to mess with people just to mess with people.
01:07:03.000 If you're hindering...
01:07:04.000 How many of them are innocent though?
01:07:07.000 Fair enough, but the point being is I don't want to sound like we're just looking to get the Democrats.
01:07:14.000 I want people to understand that we're after the corrupt.
01:07:16.000 There's plenty of people that are corrupt, and I agree with you.
01:07:20.000 More corruption than not corrupt.
01:07:22.000 But the point is...
01:07:24.000 Shows like this, people like Elon Musk, platforms like X, make it impossible to hide.
01:07:32.000 Impossible to hide.
01:07:33.000 If you're not falling in line with the Trump agenda, and you're just looking to pad your re-election, you're gonna get primary.
01:07:44.000 Well, if he makes it a priority, Immediate priority to go after the same people who are responsible for what happened to these people on January 6th, throwing them in jail, not giving them fair trials, none of this.
01:07:59.000 If he really moves towards an agenda like that, then I think he'll be extremely popular immediately.
01:08:07.000 I think so, too.
01:08:07.000 And he'll keep that momentum going.
01:08:09.000 But if he does the same shit that we saw last time, where it's the forgive and forget, we're just looking forward, he's done!
01:08:16.000 I think we're getting way more...
01:08:18.000 Already, I'm like, oh, jeez.
01:08:20.000 Like, if he chose somebody else, you know, I hear Ratcliffe.
01:08:24.000 I'm like, okay.
01:08:25.000 You know, all right.
01:08:26.000 I was hoping for Cash Patel, but maybe Cash will be FBI director.
01:08:28.000 Gates wants blood.
01:08:29.000 Yeah, so when he said Gates, I was sitting on my phone and I'm scrolling and my eyes are half closed.
01:08:35.000 I can't remember what time the announcement came out.
01:08:37.000 I just started yelling and I like ran to Allison and I was like, holy crap!
01:08:41.000 Yeah, she was like, what's going on?
01:08:42.000 I was like, because first I saw Tulsi Gabbard and I was like, all right, Tulsi Gabbard, DNI, let's go.
01:08:47.000 Then I saw Matt Gaetz and I was like, oh!
01:08:52.000 So, Trump...
01:08:52.000 Are we going to see a Rand Paul audit the Fed?
01:08:56.000 Oh, dude.
01:08:56.000 Are we going to see it?
01:08:57.000 I don't know.
01:08:57.000 Are we going to see a Rand Paul audit the Fed?
01:08:59.000 I don't know.
01:08:59.000 He could be part of those.
01:09:01.000 I mean, Mike Johnson's in Trump's entourage at UFC. That's kind of weird, but yeah, I guess it means a lot.
01:09:07.000 Yet, Trump can get Gates in through a racist appointment as long as Mike Johnson says, I want to adjourn.
01:09:13.000 Senate says no.
01:09:14.000 Trump says, Article 2, what is it?
01:09:16.000 Article 2, Section 3, I think.
01:09:17.000 He says, you're hereby adjourned.
01:09:19.000 Then I will appoint through recess for the next year, Matt Gaetz's AG, have fun.
01:09:25.000 Mike Johnson being there with him on the plane, leaning over as they're in McDonald's, he's in the entourage!
01:09:30.000 It's like you're bringing a nerdy kid into your cool club.
01:09:32.000 Not only that, but what that is doing is it is messaging to Congress.
01:09:37.000 It is messaging to Congress.
01:09:38.000 He is saying, as the Speaker of the House, I am on board with the President's agenda.
01:09:43.000 So you are going to have to get on board.
01:09:46.000 And the guy that...
01:09:47.000 John Cornyn, I think, is the guy that's the new...
01:09:50.000 No, Thorne.
01:09:51.000 Thorne.
01:09:51.000 Thorne.
01:09:52.000 Thune.
01:09:52.000 Yeah, Thune.
01:09:53.000 So I don't know the whole deal, but I retweeted a thread about some of the backroom deals.
01:10:00.000 And the point of getting Thune was it was to actually get things like to make it so that way you could get amendments back in bills because Congress has been voting on bills without amendments for ages and ages and ages.
01:10:11.000 And they're trying to re to undo the damage that's been done by by making everything vote on the whole bill.
01:10:20.000 And if you can get actual amendments back into the bill, then you can get the Senate to have the power and the position back that it was supposed to have.
01:10:29.000 So that's another thing that will help get the Trump agenda going.
01:10:33.000 Well, I don't trust the Senate, but it don't matter.
01:10:36.000 I think, you know, bill-wise and legislatively, these things can be undone.
01:10:42.000 Who knows?
01:10:42.000 It'll be good.
01:10:43.000 Fine.
01:10:44.000 We need proof of citizenship for federal elections.
01:10:48.000 I think there's a deal component with Trump and Mike Johnson where he says, look, Matt Gaetz didn't want you.
01:10:54.000 Matt Gaetz wanted Jim Jordan or somebody else.
01:10:57.000 He obstructed.
01:10:58.000 He led the charge.
01:10:59.000 We'll take him out of your hair.
01:11:00.000 He tells the NRCC, Matt Gaetz, Trump goes, look, Matt Gaetz will no longer be an issue for you.
01:11:05.000 He's going to be my AG. So long as you guys agree to either help him get in or Reese's appointments.
01:11:14.000 Then Matt Gaetz is out of Congress and no one's going to get in the way of the NRCC and who they want for their leadership.
01:11:19.000 And they're probably like, great.
01:11:21.000 Good deal.
01:11:21.000 Yeah, great.
01:11:22.000 Yeah, okay.
01:11:23.000 So they're probably thinking, fine, you can have Gaetz.
01:11:26.000 Take him.
01:11:26.000 We don't want him.
01:11:27.000 And then the rest of us are like, oh!
01:11:30.000 I hear he's not liked by anyone, not by his policies, but just because he's such a firebrand, even by his own colleagues.
01:11:37.000 But you know this is because Congress is so corrupt.
01:11:39.000 Right.
01:11:40.000 I like it.
01:11:41.000 There's a component of this with AOC as well, and the squad.
01:11:45.000 The candidates who are funded by individual donors, they don't have to fundraise as often.
01:11:51.000 Yeah.
01:11:57.000 on the phone every day.
01:11:58.000 They have to raise that money so they can pay off either the DCCC or the NRCC.
01:12:02.000 Matt Gaetz is like, screw you guys.
01:12:05.000 I can do whatever I want.
01:12:06.000 You don't have power over me.
01:12:07.000 They don't like me.
01:12:09.000 Well, and some of these people, to be perfectly honest, are bland and boring.
01:12:14.000 And Gates, for instance, he's fun to listen to.
01:12:17.000 As a public speaker, you want to tune in.
01:12:20.000 So when you have that kind of charisma, it's very easy for you to self-fund if you need to as well.
01:12:25.000 And this also lines up Gates for a higher-level position, potentially, in a future administration.
01:12:31.000 So some people are saying Vance Gates, 2028.
01:12:33.000 Ooh.
01:12:34.000 Yeah.
01:12:35.000 Gates AG, though, is a...
01:12:36.000 Well, we'll see on Vance.
01:12:37.000 Are we going to pass on Tulsi because our bench is so deep?
01:12:40.000 Yeah, I'm not sure about Vance as president.
01:12:42.000 I agree.
01:12:43.000 I do feel like he's a great VP, and I think he has potential.
01:12:47.000 He showed this on the debate, but...
01:12:49.000 But he's a never-Trumper.
01:12:50.000 I don't care about that.
01:12:51.000 My concern is, where are we going for years?
01:12:56.000 Does Vance break the barrier of a grandiose figure like a Trump?
01:12:59.000 No one's going to be Trump.
01:13:00.000 Right now, Vance is a really great VP. He's exactly what Trump needed.
01:13:05.000 I think he was a great choice.
01:13:06.000 Will he be the presidential charismatic, loud, booming voice?
01:13:10.000 We'll see.
01:13:10.000 But I'm looking forward to it.
01:13:11.000 He seems like, but this was the one thing that got me.
01:13:15.000 I understand politically why he went with Vance, but Pence turned on Trump.
01:13:20.000 And Pence was a pretty good VP for the most part.
01:13:23.000 You know, he was okay.
01:13:24.000 Yeah, he's C-plus, good, not great.
01:13:26.000 Yeah, he was fine, right?
01:13:28.000 Yeah, he was okay.
01:13:29.000 But the thing is, is like, he turned on Trump.
01:13:31.000 Very quickly he turned on Trump.
01:13:33.000 Still is turned on Trump.
01:13:35.000 And so to get a never-Trumper, it's like right now, while it's popular, while it's a popular thing to do, this type of thing, yeah, sure, he might seem great, you know, but I worry the chips are down.
01:13:45.000 Is it time for Vance to snake?
01:13:47.000 He looks like a snake to me.
01:13:48.000 He does.
01:13:49.000 He looks like a beady-eyed little snake.
01:13:51.000 Don't trust the guy.
01:13:52.000 Beady-eyed?
01:13:52.000 I don't know.
01:13:53.000 Tim, real quick, I meant General Flynn instead of...
01:13:56.000 Oh, and Flynn was on.
01:13:57.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:13:57.000 Let's jump to this story from Fox News.
01:14:01.000 New York Times fact check of RFK Jr.'s claim about popular breakfast cereal stuns social media.
01:14:06.000 Spitting out my coffee after reading this New York Times fact check of RFK Jr., one ex-user wrote, Well, if you're drinking Cast Brew coffee, you would never spit it out.
01:14:15.000 So go to castbrew.com.
01:14:16.000 See how I did that?
01:14:17.000 That was pretty good, right?
01:14:18.000 It's too delicious.
01:14:18.000 Is this about Yellow 5?
01:14:20.000 So yeah, so check it out.
01:14:21.000 Here's the original article from the New York Times, and it is such a good, ridiculous, I call it a hat trick.
01:14:30.000 It's whatever the right is for, we're opposed to.
01:14:33.000 It is fake news and a stealth edit because they did change it after a while.
01:14:38.000 So they say this.
01:14:39.000 Mr. Kennedy has singled out Fruit Loops as an example of a product with too many artificial ingredients, questioning why the Canadian version has fewer than the U.S. version.
01:14:48.000 But he was wrong.
01:14:49.000 The ingredient list is roughly the same, although Canada's has natural colorings made from blueberries and carrots, while the U.S. product contains red dye 40, yellow 5, blue 1, as well as butylated hydroxytoluene, or BHT, a lab-made chemical that is used for freshness, according to the ingredient label.
01:15:05.000 So everybody saw that and they were like, so he was right?
01:15:08.000 Totally right.
01:15:09.000 100% right.
01:15:10.000 So here's what they do.
01:15:12.000 They stealth edit the article and now it says something totally different.
01:15:16.000 Now it says, let me jump to Fruit Loops.
01:15:21.000 They had to put a correction in at the bottom.
01:15:24.000 Where are we at?
01:15:24.000 It says, He was saying,
01:15:55.000 basically, that we have garbage in our foods that they don't have, and he's completely correct.
01:16:00.000 We have butylated hydroxytoluene, BHT. Well, and yellow five, which is a coal, it's an industrial coal-like byproduct.
01:16:09.000 I think dye names should be banned.
01:16:14.000 The first thing RFK Jr.
01:16:16.000 can do, if he can't ban them, he should require that they call them what they are.
01:16:20.000 Yellow five is tartrazine.
01:16:22.000 Call it tartrazine.
01:16:23.000 And in parentheses, coal derivative.
01:16:26.000 But the problem is, unless you ban it.
01:16:29.000 This is the way I'm not a libertarian.
01:16:31.000 People don't care.
01:16:32.000 They will eat plastic if it is sold to them.
01:16:36.000 And it is a problem in this country.
01:16:38.000 The libertarians tell me all the time, if they sell a bad product, they'll go out of business.
01:16:42.000 That's not true because every single diner sells hydrogenated cottonseed oil and calls it butter spread.
01:16:47.000 Well, they're addicting.
01:16:48.000 Like, Doritos are addicting.
01:16:50.000 They're so good.
01:16:51.000 Yeah, you can't say things like, whoa, people, this tricks your brain into not knowing when you're full.
01:16:57.000 That's why somebody can sit down and eat an entire bag of Doritos.
01:17:00.000 It tricks your brain.
01:17:01.000 You don't know that you don't actually want more Doritos.
01:17:04.000 The idea here, these food chemists do.
01:17:06.000 They go in and take these foods.
01:17:08.000 They add additives, which do that.
01:17:10.000 They become addicting in and of themselves.
01:17:12.000 You go, okay, well, you're selling an addicting product from the shelves.
01:17:16.000 And then you say, well, people, once they're informed, they'll just stop buying this highly addictive product.
01:17:22.000 Well, that hasn't happened with smoking.
01:17:24.000 That hasn't happened with all sorts of...
01:17:26.000 So yeah, some of these things you do have to just do an outright ban.
01:17:30.000 You gotta be like, no.
01:17:31.000 And there's no reason for us to have yellow five and Froot Loops themselves.
01:17:33.000 That's insane.
01:17:35.000 This is what pisses me off.
01:17:36.000 Apparently, the food company said when they removed these dyes, people didn't want to buy them anymore, so they brought them back.
01:17:42.000 And I was like, don't care.
01:17:43.000 Literally don't care.
01:17:44.000 I got pissed off when I was reading on this story this morning, because we went to go, Allison and I, and we went with Richie, we went to the river to cook breakfast in the morning, and they got a rope swing over the water, and it's just so amazing out here.
01:17:58.000 This was actually Maryland, not West Virginia.
01:17:59.000 Okay.
01:18:00.000 And so I was like, let's get some eggs, goat cheese, cheddar, bacon, we'll fry it up over a fire.
01:18:06.000 I grabbed, I was looking for, I don't want to bring avocados out, so I was like, I'll get a tube of, you know, the mashed avocado they have.
01:18:13.000 I grabbed one, I looked in the back, and it was mixed with gallon gum, locust bean gum, sodium benzoate, and I'm like, nope, not eating that garbage.
01:18:21.000 Right next to it was the same one, turn it around.
01:18:24.000 Sea salt, lime.
01:18:25.000 Done.
01:18:26.000 And I was like, I don't understand why this other one has the ridiculous weird garbage all in it.
01:18:30.000 Because of expense.
01:18:31.000 So the idea with Froot Loops, let's take Froot Loops.
01:18:34.000 You could get the Froot Loops to have all those colors using something like blueberry, carrot.
01:18:40.000 We know this.
01:18:41.000 How?
01:18:41.000 Because it just told us that they do that in Canada, right?
01:18:44.000 Slightly alters the taste.
01:18:47.000 Maybe.
01:18:47.000 Maybe it doesn't even slightly alter the taste, but it probably makes the product more expensive.
01:18:53.000 And so if it makes it more expensive, they don't want to invest in it, that's it.
01:18:56.000 I want to play this clip.
01:18:58.000 It's a wholesome, nutritious breakfast cereal.
01:19:00.000 This is Chris Mowry, and this is a part of the story.
01:19:03.000 This is the, whatever it is the right likes, we hate.
01:19:06.000 Listen to this.
01:19:06.000 The reason chronic disease in the United States is increasing is not because of chemicals in the food.
01:19:11.000 Okay, as Donald Trump takes power and we're all reeling from the fact that this psychopath is going to be in office, some of the most misinformation that we're going to have to fight against together is health-related.
01:19:19.000 RFK Jr.
01:19:20.000 is an environmental lawyer, not a doctor.
01:19:22.000 I'm going to pause right there.
01:19:23.000 Hold on.
01:19:24.000 I'm going to pause right there.
01:19:24.000 He already said two ridiculous things.
01:19:28.000 Chronic illness is not caused by chemicals in the food.
01:19:31.000 It actually is.
01:19:32.000 This is a fact.
01:19:34.000 Inflammation.
01:19:35.000 But tartrazine, studies have found that it could cause or exacerbate asthma.
01:19:40.000 Although, now the Wikipedia has been edited to be like, nope, totally fine.
01:19:44.000 Like last week, probably.
01:19:45.000 He then says, RFK Jr.
01:19:49.000 is an environmental lawyer, not a doctor.
01:19:52.000 Right?
01:19:52.000 Let's play that one more time.
01:19:53.000 Misinformation that we're going to have to fight against together is health-related.
01:19:57.000 RFK Jr.
01:19:58.000 is an environmental lawyer, not a doctor.
01:20:00.000 Okay, pause.
01:20:01.000 The current HHS secretary is Xavier Becerra.
01:20:06.000 Becerra?
01:20:06.000 Is that how you pronounce it?
01:20:07.000 Becerra.
01:20:07.000 He is a lawyer, former AG of California.
01:20:10.000 Before that, he was a U.S. rep representing downtown L.A. He's not a doctor either, and that's who they appointed.
01:20:16.000 This is proof.
01:20:18.000 Guys, please.
01:20:19.000 The whole Democrat-liberal infrastructure is whatever the right is for, we're against.
01:20:23.000 Even if it's like you have butylated hydroxytoleone in your food, you don't know what it is or why you're eating it, it's a good thing!
01:20:31.000 Well, why are the representatives, though?
01:20:33.000 Here's the thing.
01:20:33.000 I will say this.
01:20:35.000 The one good thing that they've done for us, this kid's a dork.
01:20:38.000 Like, what a dork.
01:20:39.000 Look at this nerd, right?
01:20:41.000 He's going, guys, listen to me.
01:20:43.000 He's like, who's going to ever listen to this dipshit?
01:20:44.000 Nobody's going to listen to this guy.
01:20:46.000 That's why 4,000 people left him and came over here, right?
01:20:51.000 They're not going to listen to this dork.
01:20:53.000 It's ridiculous.
01:20:54.000 Listen to the doctors.
01:20:55.000 You know why chronic disease in the United States is rising?
01:20:58.000 It's because of obesity.
01:20:59.000 Well, Chris, why is obesity going up if the government is doing their job?
01:21:02.000 Completely wrong.
01:21:03.000 So colon cancer has been on the rise among healthy young people.
01:21:07.000 This is a huge story.
01:21:09.000 There was a couple studies that came out recently suggesting that high fructose corn syrup and emulsifiers have been causing colon cancer in healthy, fit, athletic young people.
01:21:18.000 High fructose corn syrup, like I just said earlier, that industrial product, that and seed oils, things like this, really, really bad.
01:21:28.000 So let's play a little bit more.
01:21:30.000 Capitalism.
01:21:31.000 Everybody has more money than ever in the most complex, well-put-together society ever on the face of the planet.
01:21:37.000 Look at where I'm sitting.
01:21:37.000 I'm sitting in a vehicle where small explosions in the back will propel me forward to the nearest fucking McDonald's.
01:21:43.000 I just gotta pause.
01:21:44.000 Chris, in the front, are you aware that...
01:21:47.000 Chris, are you...
01:21:49.000 They're on the front of the car.
01:21:50.000 I don't know that Chris is aware, but impoverished countries have cars, too.
01:21:57.000 And the combustion engine is not unique to the United States.
01:22:00.000 Get a meal that's very calorically dense and yet low in nutritional value.
01:22:05.000 And I can do it cheaply and in like five minutes.
01:22:07.000 We fix this via education.
01:22:09.000 I don't know.
01:22:09.000 Eat a diet that consists of more whole foods, for example.
01:22:13.000 He's taking the libertarian route, which is really weird.
01:22:16.000 These liberals are so anti-right that they'll even become libertarians to argue with the right.
01:22:21.000 I reject the free market solution to all of these things.
01:22:25.000 I drive to every diner.
01:22:27.000 On the weekends, Allison and I are like, well, we'll get breakfast somewhere.
01:22:30.000 And every single diner uses aerosol spray on their grill for cooking food.
01:22:35.000 I don't want to eat that, so we're like, I don't know if I want to do that anymore.
01:22:38.000 Yeah.
01:22:38.000 There's only one restaurant around here, Martinsburg Family Diner, that has real butter.
01:22:42.000 When you order food, they bring you out a little thing that says, it's real, it's actual butter.
01:22:47.000 Every other diner we go to, even the smaller ones, we try to go to the expensive ones, they'll give you packets of butter spread.
01:22:52.000 Like, what is butter spread?
01:22:54.000 Hydrogenated linseed oil or some other garbage nonsense.
01:22:58.000 Nobody cares.
01:22:59.000 And I don't know the degree to which this stuff is causing poison or whatever the point is.
01:23:05.000 Well, it's part of the high trust aspect that we have.
01:23:08.000 Right.
01:23:08.000 And so you think that everything you're getting off of the shelf has already been vetted.
01:23:13.000 It's already known to not be poisonous.
01:23:15.000 Nobody would give you things which are poisonous to eat.
01:23:18.000 That's insane, right?
01:23:20.000 Of course, our government's looking out for us.
01:23:21.000 And of course, the opposite is true.
01:23:23.000 And so you're absolutely right.
01:23:25.000 You can't use a libertarian free market approach to this.
01:23:28.000 You need an authoritarian approach, and you actually have to say, no, I'm sorry, you can't sell actual poison.
01:23:35.000 You can't do that.
01:23:36.000 So, funny story, with the recent push from these psychopath leftists for Aqua Tifana, did you see this?
01:23:42.000 Aqua Tifana was being pushed by these leftist women.
01:23:45.000 I'm not getting into too much detail other than it's a poison.
01:23:47.000 These women are psychotic.
01:23:49.000 Oh, the drug thing?
01:23:50.000 The way it worked is, the first dose...
01:23:52.000 Oh, they're women?
01:23:53.000 No, I'm kidding.
01:23:53.000 Kidding.
01:23:54.000 They are women.
01:23:55.000 The worst dose, the first dose would make the man feel like he had a cold.
01:23:59.000 The second dose would make him feel like he had the flu.
01:24:02.000 The third dose would put him on his deathbed, and the fourth dose would kill him.
01:24:08.000 So the idea back in the day in the 1600s when this woman was doing it was that nobody would suspect it was poisoning.
01:24:13.000 They would just think he was getting ill and then somehow died.
01:24:16.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:24:17.000 Imagine that times 10.
01:24:20.000 40 instances of eating something and you don't realize you're feeling sick because of it.
01:24:25.000 So right now there's a lot of people who have done carnivore diets or maybe they're vegan or whatever.
01:24:30.000 And what I think Jordan Peterson and Michaela and Joe Ruggan were saying about the carnivore diet is that it's an elimination diet.
01:24:36.000 It's not that you want to eat only meat forever.
01:24:38.000 It's that you eliminate everything from your diet and see if you feel better.
01:24:42.000 And if you do, it may be that something you were eating was causing your chronic illness.
01:24:47.000 And by the way, almost everybody who has used the carnivore diet, I've used it myself as exactly that, elimination, right?
01:24:54.000 Found out all sorts of things that bothered me, like bizarre things I would never have thought of, like watermelon.
01:24:59.000 Yeah.
01:24:59.000 You know what I mean?
01:25:00.000 All sorts of little strange things like that.
01:25:03.000 Almost everybody who's ever gone on that diet for a few months almost always feels a million times better.
01:25:11.000 I don't think it's that...
01:25:13.000 In my opinion, I don't think you should be eating nothing but beef, but people do.
01:25:17.000 I think it's...
01:25:18.000 Beef and chicken and...
01:25:19.000 Right, but I'm just being a little hyperbolic.
01:25:21.000 What I mean is that...
01:25:23.000 It's all the garbage you've eliminated.
01:25:25.000 It's not necessarily just the bread or the sugar or the watermelon or whatever it may be.
01:25:30.000 It's that a lot of the stuff has chemicals that will make you sick and you're dosing yourself with it every single day.
01:25:36.000 And then this kid who's like, what is he, like 17 or something?
01:25:40.000 It's like, I'm in a car with a small explosion in the back that pops me forward.
01:25:43.000 It's like, like you mentioned, the explosions are in the front, actually.
01:25:46.000 In the front, where the engine is, yeah.
01:25:47.000 And third world countries.
01:25:48.000 Here's the boom boom in the back.
01:25:49.000 So I went to Thailand.
01:25:51.000 And my buddy, who lived in Thailand for seven years, and he was Filipino, we were working on a project for Vice, I said, I want real Thai food.
01:25:57.000 And he's like, oh, you want real Thai food, huh?
01:25:59.000 Okay, I'll get you real Thai food.
01:26:01.000 And I knew exactly what I was going to do, because I do this every country I go to.
01:26:04.000 We go to this little corner, a residential area.
01:26:07.000 The first floor on the corner had like aluminum grates that were like lifted up, gates or whatever.
01:26:14.000 And it was an open kitchen that looked at someone's house, but it was big.
01:26:17.000 And he sat down, he ordered in Thai, and she brought out steamed chicken and rice.
01:26:23.000 That's it.
01:26:23.000 Steamed chicken, white rice.
01:26:24.000 And he goes, this is Thai food.
01:26:25.000 This is what they eat in Thailand.
01:26:26.000 And I laughed, and I was like, I figured...
01:26:28.000 Almost everyone in the world literally will just eat steamed chicken and rice.
01:26:32.000 And he was like, all the other stuff people think is Thai food is like specialty prepared stuff or Americanized.
01:26:38.000 I went to Brazil.
01:26:39.000 I told my buddy I want Brazilian food.
01:26:41.000 And he's like, real Brazil food?
01:26:42.000 Yep, guess what it was?
01:26:43.000 Steak and rice.
01:26:44.000 That's it.
01:26:44.000 There's no ridiculous, weird, garbled nonsense.
01:26:47.000 We eat all that stuff because we're nuts.
01:26:48.000 So I'll give him credit on that to a certain degree.
01:26:51.000 He is right about high-calorie, low-nutrition food.
01:26:53.000 That's true.
01:26:55.000 Is this why capitalism is bad?
01:26:56.000 I mean, but it's also a very obvious statement.
01:27:00.000 And he packs...
01:27:02.000 Leftists do this all the time, right?
01:27:04.000 They take one piece of the truth and pack it in with so many lies that it makes the rest of lies seem like they're true.
01:27:10.000 Yep.
01:27:11.000 And this is exactly what this dork is doing right now.
01:27:15.000 Yeah.
01:27:15.000 And their leaders, this guy, I mean, he's totally wrong, but how are the Democratic Party and the leftists having him and Harry Sisson?
01:27:23.000 How are they supposed to be their online leaders when they're just...
01:27:25.000 Well, they don't debate.
01:27:27.000 They don't do confrontations.
01:27:28.000 You can't get Parker or Dean, the next two.
01:27:32.000 They don't debate.
01:27:33.000 My understanding...
01:27:34.000 Wasn't Dean supposed to come on here?
01:27:35.000 Yeah, he canceled the last...
01:27:37.000 Oh, what a shock!
01:27:38.000 Coward Dean!
01:27:39.000 Coward Dean also said that he would do a live debate on whatever.
01:27:43.000 Backed out of that...
01:27:44.000 He said it on video.
01:27:46.000 He then tweeted, I responded, because he was calling out Aiden Ross or whatever.
01:27:49.000 He was like, when are we going to debate, bro?
01:27:50.000 And I was like, Dean, we're still waiting for you to reschedule.
01:27:52.000 You said you'd figure it out.
01:27:54.000 And then he was like, I'll do it right now, live.
01:27:56.000 And I'm like, we're not doing the show right.
01:27:59.000 Because they know they create impossible circumstances, so they can't do the show, and then go, oh, he won't have me on.
01:28:04.000 Well, they want to do it.
01:28:05.000 It's worse.
01:28:06.000 They want to do it on their TikTok because what they do is they mute you.
01:28:10.000 Absent the mute button, these people have nothing.
01:28:12.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:28:13.000 You can't get through a debate.
01:28:15.000 So I always say the same thing.
01:28:16.000 I'm like, look, I know Culture War will host us.
01:28:20.000 I know whatever will host us.
01:28:22.000 Tons of platforms which will host us.
01:28:24.000 You don't have the mute button.
01:28:26.000 And there's a moderator.
01:28:27.000 And that's a debate.
01:28:29.000 Not you go on TikTok, you click the mute button so that you can...
01:28:32.000 You know what I mean?
01:28:33.000 That's ridiculous.
01:28:34.000 It's like we were talking about before with like Destiny and Sam Seder and them.
01:28:37.000 And you know, I'll stress this too, because it's a point I made a couple weeks ago.
01:28:41.000 I used to think it was no point talking about these guys.
01:28:43.000 I'm like, who cares about some YouTubers?
01:28:44.000 Like, well, the corporate press.
01:28:46.000 It matters.
01:28:47.000 But it matters now.
01:28:48.000 And I've learned this.
01:28:49.000 I have reconciled.
01:28:52.000 MSN, Joe Scarborough is getting 28,000 viewers.
01:28:55.000 They don't matter at all.
01:28:56.000 Like, why bother talking about them?
01:28:58.000 Ever.
01:28:59.000 Ever.
01:29:00.000 We absolutely should be talking about Sam, Destiny, Pac-Man, Brian Tyler Cohen.
01:29:04.000 They get way more viewers.
01:29:06.000 They're the ones getting more to shift the culture.
01:29:08.000 So it's not even just that.
01:29:10.000 It's the orbiters.
01:29:11.000 The idea of the orbiters.
01:29:13.000 It's not that a guy like Destiny or a guy like Vosh or people like this, in and of themselves, while they're a machine, they spawn orbiters.
01:29:21.000 Vosh came from Destiny.
01:29:23.000 Hassan Piker came from Destiny.
01:29:25.000 These guys' career got launched off of Destiny's back.
01:29:29.000 Yeah.
01:29:29.000 Both of them.
01:29:29.000 Vosh was a...
01:29:31.000 So salty about it.
01:29:31.000 Yeah, he was an orbiter inside of the community.
01:29:34.000 His name was Irish Laddie or something stupid, right?
01:29:37.000 He was a joke.
01:29:38.000 He was a commie.
01:29:39.000 They would make fun of him.
01:29:40.000 He was the butt of every joke.
01:29:41.000 Wow.
01:29:41.000 And then he goes off and he becomes, you know, his own brand, spawned off of Destiny.
01:29:47.000 That's funny.
01:29:47.000 So these orbiters that spawn off of him then go and make, and then they go and make...
01:29:52.000 Destiny is budding.
01:29:52.000 They're like a plague.
01:29:53.000 It's called budding.
01:29:54.000 Yeah, buddy.
01:29:56.000 That's the asexual reproductive process where they form off of one thing and flop onto the ground.
01:30:02.000 Well, that's why he's always seething about Hassan.
01:30:04.000 He's always so upset with Hassan because Hassan essentially got the boost from his community that went on to become the next big thing, way bigger than destiny.
01:30:13.000 Yeah, but it's kind of wild that Hassan's views are like way down.
01:30:16.000 For now.
01:30:17.000 You think they'll come back?
01:30:18.000 Yeah.
01:30:19.000 Why do you think so?
01:30:20.000 Yeah.
01:30:20.000 Well, I think right now, because his content is so polarized, because it's focused on this war, and he's picked the side on that, I think that after this maybe dies down, I think that you're going to see a re-emergence of BreadTube.
01:30:36.000 I've always thought so.
01:30:37.000 I never thought that BreadTube and the BreadTumers and the Commies...
01:30:41.000 We're ever actually going to go away.
01:30:42.000 They just seem to consolidate a little bit more.
01:30:45.000 They dim for a little while, and then they come right back in.
01:30:50.000 No, I don't think the commies on YouTube are at risk of dying anytime soon.
01:30:54.000 I don't think he's going to die off, but his views collapsed.
01:30:58.000 Yeah.
01:30:59.000 And he had like a breakdown over it and was like, yo, what's going on?
01:31:02.000 I think they went down by like 20%.
01:31:04.000 I'm not sure that they collapsed.
01:31:06.000 So when this drop-off for him happened, he was getting like 40 to 50k per show, and it dropped down to like 15 to 19.
01:31:13.000 Yeah, he's back up in the...
01:31:15.000 Now I think he's getting like 28, 29.
01:31:17.000 Yeah.
01:31:17.000 Well, they're so fragile, he thought about self-harm because of that, because he has such a small...
01:31:21.000 He posted something about hurting himself because his viewers collapsed.
01:31:25.000 I mean, it's...
01:31:26.000 Fragile.
01:31:27.000 Yeah, man.
01:31:28.000 It's remarkable how deranged a lot of these people are.
01:31:34.000 So there was a video about Mr.
01:31:37.000 Beast doing the cataract removals.
01:31:39.000 Hassan made a comment on it.
01:31:41.000 Everybody roasted him.
01:31:42.000 I made a video saying Hassan is correct.
01:31:44.000 Hassan's point was it's ridiculous that to cure people of cataract blindness, we turn it into a game show.
01:31:49.000 Like, isn't there a more effective means of helping people?
01:31:52.000 And I was like, he's right.
01:31:53.000 I mean, that's that's idiocracy level insane.
01:31:55.000 And then I went on to say things like maybe if we weren't wasting money in the military industrial complex, dumping it in Ukraine, we could actually just I don't know, pay for people, pay for their cataract blindness treatments.
01:32:05.000 I would much rather see instead of 250 billion dollars going to Ukraine, 250 billion dollars to pay off people's medical debt or give them minor treatments like cataract blindness.
01:32:13.000 He responded to my response, making fun of me, for as much as he was like, the military industrial complex is bad.
01:32:20.000 And then when he heard me say we shouldn't give money to Ukraine, he starts laughing, going, yo, can you believe this guy?
01:32:25.000 Like, Ukraine should just be left on their own.
01:32:27.000 And I was like, I'm sitting here being like...
01:32:29.000 I don't understand how we agree on everything and you still found a way to act like we don't agree and you're upset.
01:32:34.000 You can't throw these people a bone.
01:32:36.000 Because the thing is, all Hassan is doing and these liberals is they're looking at their chat and then waiting to see if there's a consensus and then agreeing with it.
01:32:45.000 That's it.
01:32:46.000 I wonder if we could study that.
01:32:47.000 Like, look at their chat.
01:32:48.000 You think that's actually true?
01:32:50.000 That they're looking at what's going on?
01:32:51.000 Hassan Piker is notoriously dumb.
01:32:53.000 Dumb is a box of rocks.
01:32:54.000 And everybody knows that.
01:32:55.000 Hold on.
01:32:55.000 That's offensive to rocks.
01:32:57.000 Dumb.
01:32:58.000 Or boxes as well.
01:32:59.000 This guy is so...
01:33:00.000 He's so stupid.
01:33:01.000 They used to make fun of him when he was a 3-400 viewer Andy because of how dumb he was.
01:33:06.000 They just thought he was good looking, right?
01:33:07.000 But they were like, he is so stupid.
01:33:09.000 He's just as stupid now as he was.
01:33:12.000 The guy is...
01:33:12.000 The guy has never been an intelligent entertainer ever.
01:33:16.000 He's always been dumb.
01:33:17.000 That's not why people tune in, is for his smart takes.
01:33:23.000 Yes, he's a very dumb guy, but I wanted to make one comment about the whole self-harm thing.
01:33:30.000 People like Hassan, and probably, I would imagine, someone like Destiny and Vosh, This is something I've noticed with a lot of these bread tubers and a lot of the people on the left.
01:33:40.000 They don't have anything else.
01:33:42.000 Tim's got multiple businesses that he's doing.
01:33:45.000 It's not just IRL. He's got the morning show.
01:33:47.000 He's got his hands in a bunch of different stuff.
01:33:49.000 You look at all the guys over at Daily Wire.
01:33:51.000 They're writing books.
01:33:52.000 They're doing multiple things.
01:33:54.000 All the leftists, the only thing they do...
01:33:57.000 Is stream.
01:33:59.000 So if they stop streaming, the cash dries up real quick.
01:34:02.000 So all their bills, they're effed.
01:34:05.000 They're completely screwed because they don't have...
01:34:07.000 I disagree a little bit.
01:34:09.000 So these guys, like Progressive Victory and some of these other PACs, They have made political operatives out of the Twitch leftist streamers.
01:34:17.000 But they have to stream.
01:34:19.000 What I'm saying is if their stream dries up, they have nothing else.
01:34:25.000 Many of them can become very, very competent political operatives.
01:34:29.000 And I'm telling you, there's one right now.
01:34:33.000 I can tell you one right now.
01:34:34.000 Brianna Wu.
01:34:36.000 Brianna Wu became a failed streamer, but a very, very good political operative for the Democrats.
01:34:42.000 It's like, no, they don't only have one pathway.
01:34:46.000 And that's funny how much they despise Brianna.
01:34:48.000 And Brianna's been, what, pro-Israel?
01:34:51.000 Yeah.
01:34:52.000 Well, that's the reason that they despise it.
01:34:54.000 Well, it's not just...
01:34:55.000 We gotta go to Super Chats, but I want to point out one thing, and maybe we'll get this in the members only because it's hilarious.
01:35:02.000 Dr.
01:35:03.000 Simon Goddick says, I was just labeled intolerant by Blue Sky and accused of discriminating against protected groups, WTF. Ironically, that's not very tolerant of them.
01:35:12.000 Blue Sky, this is funny because it's Jack Dorsey's thing.
01:35:16.000 I'm pretty sure this is what he was talking to me about when I was on Rogan in the green room waiting to go on the show.
01:35:19.000 He was mentioning he wanted to do this decentralized thing, total free speech.
01:35:24.000 So Dr. Simon got it, goes on to Blue Sky and says, great to be here.
01:35:28.000 I hear there's a free speech platform, so let's put it to the test.
01:35:31.000 COVID was a pandemic.
01:35:32.000 Epstein didn't kill himself.
01:35:33.000 There are only two genders.
01:35:34.000 Men can't get pregnant.
01:35:35.000 Bill Clinton likes them young.
01:35:36.000 Trump will make America great again.
01:35:38.000 And then they said discrimination against protected groups and banned him from liberal tears, maybe.
01:35:46.000 I have no idea.
01:35:47.000 Men can't get pregnant.
01:35:48.000 The point is, as all these leftists flee to Blue Sky, Blue Sky's reporting that they're getting something like hundreds of thousands of reports per hour.
01:35:57.000 These people can't live with themselves.
01:35:59.000 No, not at all.
01:36:01.000 But let's, we'll go to Superchance.
01:36:02.000 We'll talk more about that in the members only, where we can be a little bit less family-friendly.
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01:36:39.000 Peter Gohawk says, can we get a Trump dance around the TimCast table?
01:36:44.000 Indeed.
01:36:45.000 We don't have a wide shot, though.
01:36:46.000 Andrew is refusing to do it.
01:36:47.000 He won't do the Trump dance.
01:36:48.000 I won't do the Trump dance.
01:36:51.000 Too cool for school, Andrew.
01:36:52.000 We got to tilt our head to, right?
01:36:55.000 So, Jon Jones, not only was he the winner, right, based, but when he did the Trump dance, he did it right.
01:37:03.000 You know, I'm watching those frat boys do the Trump shimmy, and one guy's going like this, and I'm like, that's not the Trump dance.
01:37:09.000 One guy was going like this.
01:37:11.000 I'm like, that is not the Trump dance.
01:37:12.000 You cock your head to the side and you go arm in, arm out.
01:37:15.000 And then what he, what John did was he went.
01:37:18.000 And then he pointed.
01:37:19.000 Yeah.
01:37:20.000 Yeah.
01:37:20.000 It's so good.
01:37:22.000 And then he gave Trump the belt.
01:37:24.000 Look, man, everybody should laugh at the Trump dance.
01:37:28.000 But a Trump dance is a choice a person made to laugh with everybody.
01:37:32.000 And the getting on your knee was something they didn't choose to do, but were forced to do under threat of penalty.
01:37:38.000 So we are winning.
01:37:41.000 Go team.
01:37:42.000 All right.
01:37:43.000 Dan Cam says, Congratulations, Tim.
01:37:46.000 You were featured in Shane Dawson's new conspiracy theory video, LOL. Andrew, welcome, my brother in Christ.
01:37:51.000 Hey, thank you.
01:37:52.000 Where in the video?
01:37:53.000 It's like an hour long.
01:37:55.000 I don't really know much about that guy, but, you know, whatever.
01:37:58.000 Is he a big name?
01:37:59.000 He's famous, I think, right?
01:38:01.000 Yeah.
01:38:01.000 I mean, he used to be.
01:38:02.000 I thought he disappeared for a while.
01:38:05.000 Totally disappeared from the internet for a while.
01:38:07.000 Nate Parrott says, Hey guys, Tim, what do I tell lefties who say that the reason why things were good under Trump because of Obama's policies and the reason things were bad under Biden were because of Trump's policies?
01:38:16.000 Yeah, ask him to name them.
01:38:18.000 Ask him to name the policies.
01:38:19.000 So I had...
01:38:21.000 We have various contractors who come in here, and we're all friends with them, but some of them are more liberal.
01:38:26.000 And this is the funny thing, like...
01:38:27.000 Run-of-the-mill people who come by to do contract work and we hang out with might be liberal, but we don't get into it.
01:38:33.000 And so one of our skaters here and one of our contractors was here, they were talking about something.
01:38:39.000 I don't know what they're talking about, but a contractor asked Skater, I don't even know how Trump will make butter cheaper anyway.
01:38:46.000 And so Johnny Skater was like, hey, Tim, how is Trump going to make butter cheaper?
01:38:51.000 And I was like, OK, we'll start from the beginning.
01:38:52.000 Joe Biden, one of the first things he did when he got in was he banned the Keystone Pipeline and he banned fracking on public lands.
01:38:57.000 The shutting down of the Keystone Pipeline caused a speculative price hike in oil because the speculators in the oil industry said, speculators and the oil industry said that in the next five years, supply will not meet demand because the Keystone Pipeline has been shut down.
01:39:10.000 This is going to cause a price spike, so we better buy things up now, causing a preemptive price spike.
01:39:15.000 By all means, rag on speculators, this happened.
01:39:17.000 Donald Trump wants to deregulate the energy industry, which would likely cause a decrease in every element of the processing, packaging, and production of butter, which means when it comes to the grocery store, if the cost of fuel goes down, every element of its production.
01:39:29.000 Petroleum is going to result in cheaper plastics, cheaper packaging, cheaper printing, everything.
01:39:33.000 So, easy answer.
01:39:35.000 Trump deregulates energy, we produce more energy, the cost to ship everything goes down, and that's the easiest way to put it.
01:39:42.000 There you go.
01:39:43.000 Yes.
01:39:43.000 Say that.
01:39:44.000 Also, if he goes through with the decrease in corporate tax, that also will likely lower the cost of these goods at your local market.
01:39:56.000 Why do you think...
01:39:57.000 How will that correlate?
01:39:58.000 What do you think?
01:39:58.000 Well, because when you raise the corporate tax, just like when the progressives are saying Trump's tariffs are going to raise prices.
01:40:05.000 That's true.
01:40:06.000 They are going to slightly raise prices.
01:40:08.000 There's no doubt about that.
01:40:09.000 Only on imported goods.
01:40:10.000 That's true.
01:40:11.000 But...
01:40:12.000 But we have a lot of imported goods.
01:40:14.000 Let's be real.
01:40:16.000 But so does raising corporate taxes.
01:40:18.000 If you raise the corporate tax rate, then that's a hidden tax on the consumer.
01:40:22.000 It's always a hidden tax on the consumer.
01:40:24.000 Where else does it go?
01:40:25.000 It goes to the consumer.
01:40:26.000 So if you decrease the corporate tax rate, that is no longer a hidden tax on the consumer.
01:40:32.000 The issue likely with raising taxes will hit publicly owned companies.
01:40:39.000 With a fiduciary obligation to deliver profits...
01:40:42.000 If there's a higher tax burden on the corporation, on their profits, they're going to deliver lower profits to their shareholders.
01:40:50.000 So they're trying to find a way to maximize profits as is their- Raise the prices!
01:40:54.000 So if they're saying we delivered X amount last year and we want to hit that target this year, but we got to pay more in taxes, then you will likely see them try to make up that money in some way.
01:41:04.000 And it's because they are legally obligated to make profit for the shareholders.
01:41:08.000 They have to pursue their fiduciary responsibility.
01:41:11.000 Now, I will say.
01:41:13.000 So you're saying if we lower corporate tax rates again, like he's talking about, maybe 5%, 10% is even saying, that will lower the cost of these goods.
01:41:23.000 It depends on the company, yes, and it goes a couple different directions.
01:41:28.000 When you increase taxes, so outside of the public realm, when they increase taxes on us, we actually spend more.
01:41:35.000 So all that does is stimulate economic activity to a certain degree.
01:41:40.000 Economics is tough, and I'm not an economist.
01:41:41.000 What I can tell you is, for a company like ours, which is singly owned by me with no responsibility to the public, when they say, Tim, your tax rate is going up by 8% or whatever, I say, okay, so if at the end of the year I have $100,000 and I got to pay $40K to the government, I'd rather just spend that $40K on my tax-deductible equipment allotment and then hold a $40,000, I don't know, van as equipment that I don't pay taxes on because it's tax-deductible up to a million dollars.
01:42:08.000 And so then I buy a van from a salesman.
01:42:10.000 Then the salesman makes money.
01:42:11.000 Then the dealership is cycling inventory.
01:42:14.000 However, we don't have shareholders.
01:42:15.000 If you have shareholders, you have a fiduciary responsibility to generate profits.
01:42:17.000 So you're going to be cutting the costs everywhere and trying to figure out where to make more money because you can't just push your profits.
01:42:22.000 If you're a publicly traded company and you say, let's just spend our profits into the market so that we don't have to pay the taxes.
01:42:31.000 Shareholders don't have profits.
01:42:31.000 Boom.
01:42:32.000 And now you're not delivering profits to the shareholders.
01:42:35.000 Shares are going to sell.
01:42:36.000 No one's going to want to be in the company.
01:42:37.000 So you're actually going, no, no, no.
01:42:38.000 We've got to make money.
01:42:39.000 We can't do that.
01:42:39.000 We'll up the cost of the good.
01:42:41.000 Yes.
01:42:41.000 That's the primary way that that's done.
01:42:43.000 We'll up the cost of the good.
01:42:44.000 I thought going public was always a good thing.
01:42:46.000 Now you're making it sound like a bad thing.
01:42:48.000 It's a good thing for the people who own the company who are trying to cash out.
01:42:51.000 Usually going public is like, let's say I took Timcast to public.
01:42:54.000 Yeah.
01:42:54.000 We calculated the revenue and then I said, I'm going to sell 30% to the public for $30 million or whatever.
01:42:59.000 I get $30 million in cash.
01:43:01.000 And now the company is publicly traded with all these rules and regulations.
01:43:05.000 The company probably falls to crap.
01:43:08.000 This is why you get butylated hydroxytoluene in your food.
01:43:14.000 Because they're like, look, if we make cereal and it lasts on a shelf for two weeks...
01:43:21.000 And it gets thrown in the garbage, we lose money.
01:43:23.000 If we put BHT, it costs a little bit more, but it lasts four weeks, we're going to sell it.
01:43:28.000 So, for instance, what happened to us recently is that Casper Coffee Decaf, we had a batch expire, which means it's been sitting for a year.
01:43:38.000 So we order around 5,000 units of each coffee at a time.
01:43:45.000 And then Ian's Graphene Dream sold out like crazy quick.
01:43:50.000 Shout out, Ian.
01:43:51.000 Yeah.
01:43:51.000 So it's...
01:43:52.000 I'm sorry.
01:43:53.000 Let me clarify.
01:43:54.000 We order 5,000 bags and they make the coffee in small batches every so often.
01:43:59.000 We had a batch made of Unwoke and we didn't sell any.
01:44:04.000 So it expired.
01:44:07.000 They tell us, it's actually fine to drink, but as per regulation, it's expired.
01:44:13.000 You probably don't want it anymore.
01:44:15.000 And so, on our end, we just lose that.
01:44:19.000 If we were to try and figure out a way to do higher-end preservative or whatever, we wouldn't have that problem.
01:44:24.000 We wouldn't have to worry about a product that doesn't sell.
01:44:28.000 So, anyway, that's why we ended up doing a sale on Unwoke for the remaining that didn't expire, because I think we had like 500 that was made.
01:44:36.000 So people hit us up saying they wanted decaf, so we made a couple hundred, I think five or six hundred, and then sold barely any, and the rest just sat around.
01:44:45.000 And we were like, ah, we have 5,000 bags of this sitting around, so we're probably going to order it in much smaller batches, much smaller.
01:44:51.000 I think each batch is usually like a couple hundred bags, and they sell pretty quick.
01:44:56.000 But that's why they're going to put chemicals and garbage in your food.
01:44:59.000 Because they save money.
01:45:02.000 And they have a responsibility to their shareholders.
01:45:06.000 That's why people eat garbage.
01:45:08.000 Alright, let's go.
01:45:11.000 I didn't eat anything today, actually.
01:45:13.000 Very bad for you.
01:45:14.000 I had my omelet as per usual.
01:45:18.000 And I had two protein shakes.
01:45:20.000 I had two of these meat sticks in which I think the ingredients are all easily discernible.
01:45:25.000 Citric acid, pepper, cultured celery powder.
01:45:28.000 It's fine.
01:45:30.000 But I had no time.
01:45:31.000 Just a crazy busy day.
01:45:33.000 Yikes.
01:45:33.000 Real quick, are you doing like five, seven videos a day now, I'm noticing?
01:45:37.000 Six.
01:45:37.000 Okay.
01:45:38.000 Yeah, and then, you know, I have to record early to get Friday, Saturday, and Sunday done.
01:45:43.000 Okay.
01:45:43.000 So this weekend I only had one each, but I'm trying to figure out...
01:45:45.000 I thought you were backing way off because of the kid.
01:45:49.000 Uh, we got something in the works.
01:45:51.000 Yeah.
01:45:51.000 Yeah, and so there's a, you know, we got something in the works.
01:45:55.000 It's rough.
01:45:56.000 So we're working on, with the New Year ad sales, which we, so here's the double-edged sword, I guess.
01:46:03.000 We don't do ad reads, and we never did.
01:46:04.000 Like, I'm sorry, we do some sometimes, but rarely.
01:46:08.000 Top of the show, we did Home Title Lock.
01:46:09.000 We usually just shout out Casper Coffee.
01:46:11.000 It's our own company.
01:46:12.000 Because I, I don't, look, in the morning...
01:46:15.000 I find news articles.
01:46:16.000 I read the news.
01:46:17.000 I hit record.
01:46:17.000 I rant.
01:46:18.000 I hit done.
01:46:19.000 I'm done.
01:46:20.000 Recently, I've been shouting out Cast Brew because we want to promote our own stuff and make money off it.
01:46:25.000 There's a solution.
01:46:27.000 We need to hire a CEO. We hire a CEO or we take investment.
01:46:31.000 Right now, the strategy is we got a couple of companies that want to do ad sales.
01:46:35.000 So every segment we put out will have like a 45 second to a minute ad read in it, which is what we never want to do.
01:46:40.000 But I suppose it's better than not doing any shows ever again.
01:46:43.000 And then IRL is likely going to have one ad read at the top and one at 930 before we do super chats.
01:46:48.000 Oh, so a pre and a mid role that is going to generate enough revenue where I can hire two CEOs or an executive team to just run things.
01:46:57.000 The alternative is we're also negotiating with more extensive deals like strategic investment and things like that.
01:47:04.000 And so for the time being, I'm just trying to work as much as I can, especially, too, because we're taking next Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off for the holiday.
01:47:13.000 And then for Christmas, the whole week of Christmas is just there's impossible.
01:47:19.000 You know, guys, I don't want to take any time off.
01:47:21.000 I'd love to work through the holidays, but we tried this, and you can't book guests.
01:47:26.000 So there's nothing, you know.
01:47:28.000 We can do it in-house, because I'm bored last year.
01:47:30.000 I was like, fuck.
01:47:31.000 I was like, F, I have a whole week, and none of my jobs have a whole week off.
01:47:36.000 Everybody's got family stuff on Thanksgiving.
01:47:37.000 I mean, true.
01:47:38.000 And so, you know, I was asking Phil, like, maybe Phil could do Wednesday, but Phil's got Thanksgiving.
01:47:43.000 Then we don't got production crew.
01:47:44.000 I mean, for the Christmas area.
01:47:46.000 But, dude.
01:47:46.000 The whole week is a lot for, you know, just in general.
01:47:49.000 We need, you need driver.
01:47:50.000 I know.
01:47:51.000 You need camera production.
01:47:52.000 A lot.
01:47:53.000 It's at least like three people and a guest.
01:47:55.000 And so it's like, nobody's coming here on the day before Christmas Eve.
01:47:59.000 Didn't you have a bunch of cancellations a couple years ago?
01:48:01.000 Yeah.
01:48:01.000 Because people couldn't make it?
01:48:02.000 Yeah, and then we ended up booking last-minute local guests who were friends, and then we were like, this was a mistake, right?
01:48:08.000 Viewership is down, and that's fine because we believe in doing the work, but you can't get people to come out, and I don't blame them for it.
01:48:15.000 So I'm like, I think we should just be like every other normal person and just take the holidays to go see family, and then that's our vacation time.
01:48:20.000 And I think we're planning on coming back on like the 2nd of January.
01:48:23.000 Nice.
01:48:23.000 So I'm trying to work as much as possible until then.
01:48:26.000 And, you know, we'll see.
01:48:27.000 We'll see.
01:48:28.000 We're talking with a couple of the really big ad sales networks, and it sounds really great.
01:48:35.000 We've brought on someone already who's managing things and handling a lot of the heavy lifting.
01:48:39.000 And so a couple of routes we can do is strategic investment slash buyout, which I don't know if it's possible.
01:48:46.000 And then all I got to do is the show.
01:48:48.000 I don't got to worry about anything.
01:48:49.000 Jason Dixon will buy you out.
01:48:50.000 Remember him?
01:48:51.000 Yeah.
01:48:52.000 The alternative is strategic investment, which is simple.
01:48:56.000 Yeah.
01:48:56.000 Somebody who runs a media company buys a small portion of the company and then assumes management.
01:49:00.000 I still reap most of the benefits, but they're in charge.
01:49:02.000 I sit back and say, tell me when to read the ad, we'll do the show.
01:49:05.000 But then also it's hire a CEO and executive management team to do all the work for that.
01:49:10.000 We need to make a lot more money.
01:49:12.000 And so...
01:49:13.000 This is the point in Shark Tank where the guy shows up and says, I got a big company.
01:49:16.000 We're making lots of money.
01:49:17.000 But we're at a point where we're hitting our heads as founders.
01:49:20.000 We're not CEOs.
01:49:21.000 And then we need X amount of money in order to do this.
01:49:24.000 For us, we make enough money to where if we just decide to do the ad reads, we're going to generate enough money.
01:49:29.000 And that solves a lot of problem.
01:49:31.000 It's still really annoying trying to find the CEO to run things.
01:49:35.000 I bet.
01:49:36.000 Yeah, because look, for all the people who are like, I could do it, hire me at It's like, you know, you don't.
01:49:40.000 Yeah, I never said CEO, just get this on the open.
01:49:42.000 No, it's just...
01:49:43.000 No way.
01:49:45.000 We've talked to people about proper management, and there's things you just, you really do have to have the expertise.
01:49:49.000 That's why strategic investment is the much better option.
01:49:52.000 Somebody who's already networked with all the podcast networks, television networks, ad sales companies, hiring someone to do that and being like, okay, for the next six months, try and build the Rolodex.
01:50:01.000 It's a really difficult thing.
01:50:03.000 We'll see though.
01:50:04.000 We'll see though.
01:50:04.000 I've been having a bunch of meetings and I say it's all very good news.
01:50:08.000 It's all very good news.
01:50:09.000 Excellent.
01:50:10.000 Yep.
01:50:10.000 And then there's still the possibility of switching on to the morning show.
01:50:16.000 But we'll see.
01:50:17.000 We'll see.
01:50:18.000 I'm trying to avoid that because, I mean, now Team Castile is doing better than ever.
01:50:21.000 Well, not better than ever.
01:50:23.000 COVID was a weird time.
01:50:24.000 But since the end of the pandemic, yeah, our numbers are fantastic.
01:50:28.000 Revenue projections are ridiculous.
01:50:30.000 We're taking over podcast presidency, all that stuff.
01:50:32.000 It'd be stupid to get rid of what is typically the biggest news show on YouTube.
01:50:36.000 Yeah, weren't we number one last week or something?
01:50:39.000 At least live for the primetime.
01:50:42.000 We're always number one primetime.
01:50:43.000 Yeah.
01:50:43.000 Like not always, always, but like 80% of the time.
01:50:45.000 Sure.
01:50:46.000 Sometimes some guy will do League of Legends and beat us.
01:50:48.000 League of Legends.
01:50:49.000 But we beat all of the other big news streams.
01:50:52.000 Like today our peak concurred is like 61K. Nice.
01:50:54.000 You know?
01:50:55.000 And so even when we get 40, you know, a few months ago, that was still usually the top if you go on YouTube's live.
01:51:01.000 So there's no reason in just abandoning ship, but we definitely need to expand and then bring people in.
01:51:08.000 That's a good sign.
01:51:09.000 That means you're blown up, bro.
01:51:11.000 Sure.
01:51:11.000 Right?
01:51:12.000 I mean, in a way?
01:51:13.000 It's tough because, you know, 16-hour days, you know what I mean?
01:51:16.000 Yeah.
01:51:16.000 And weekends.
01:51:17.000 I see it, and I work with you, yeah.
01:51:19.000 So that's the big challenge with all these other companies that want to do some kind of deal.
01:51:22.000 It's like, look, man, I'm not doing a morning, couple-hour recording like all these other hosts that do all these shows.
01:51:27.000 They'll record for an hour or two hours, and then they leave.
01:51:31.000 And I'm like, nah, I'm here, sunup, sundown.
01:51:33.000 And if you want both of these shows in some capacity, you know, either ad sales—like, so the ad sales, right?
01:51:38.000 They're saying, okay, Tim, we want to sell ads on your show.
01:51:41.000 We sell them up front.
01:51:42.000 I say, okay, that means I'm working 16-hour days.
01:51:44.000 It alleviates—I can hire someone to alleviate all of the heavy lifting and split my day in two, but, like, this deal is— It's a lot more difficult than your average podcaster who's like, I record till three and then I'm done.
01:51:57.000 Yeah.
01:51:58.000 It was funny.
01:51:58.000 I was talking to Joe Rogan and he asked me how much I recorded per day.
01:52:01.000 I was like, I think four hours.
01:52:02.000 He's like, so just four hours per day?
01:52:04.000 That's it?
01:52:04.000 It's still only four hours.
01:52:05.000 And I was like, no, Joe, that's like four hours plus ten hours of research.
01:52:08.000 It's just, it's nuts.
01:52:10.000 It's like I wake up, I'm reading the news nonstop, I record.
01:52:13.000 In between recording, I'm reading.
01:52:14.000 Then I eat, exercise, and then I get ready for the late night show.
01:52:17.000 Yeah, you live here almost.
01:52:18.000 Yeah.
01:52:20.000 Alright, let's grab some more.
01:52:21.000 Greta Thanos says, It's not revenge, it's righteous fury.
01:52:24.000 Look upon my works, ye mighty in despair.
01:52:27.000 Terrible quote, I must say, in reference to what you're talking about.
01:52:31.000 The Ozymandias quote was a reference to a great and powerful pharaoh who was claiming territory of a mighty kingdom that had been left to ruin.
01:52:39.000 The point was that time makes fools of us all.
01:52:42.000 So, to say it's not revenge, look upon my works, ye mighty in despair, is as if to imply that after a long enough period of time, Trump's power will wane and his effectiveness will be nil.
01:52:51.000 So, but I do love Ozymandias, who is, um, wait, Percy, um...
01:52:58.000 Jackson?
01:52:58.000 No, the poet was Percy Bysshe Shelley?
01:53:02.000 Tell me I'm getting that right.
01:53:04.000 Let me see.
01:53:05.000 You know Ozymandias, right?
01:53:08.000 Percy Bysshe Shelley.
01:53:09.000 Am I pronouncing that wrong?
01:53:09.000 Probably because I read it and I don't know how to pronounce the guy's name.
01:53:12.000 It's a guy, right?
01:53:13.000 Phil?
01:53:15.000 Bysshe, I was correct.
01:53:16.000 Percy Bysshe Shelley.
01:53:17.000 Yes.
01:53:18.000 I'm very happy when I remember stupid things like that.
01:53:20.000 Anyway, Ozymandias is an awesome poem.
01:53:23.000 Let's go!
01:53:24.000 Alright, we got Distracting Game says, Destiny and Hassan should both be banned from all platforms and imprisoned for the threats and calls for violence.
01:53:31.000 They've both called for violence, haven't they?
01:53:33.000 He said for the MAGA people to start shooting the writers in the street a couple times.
01:53:37.000 Wow!
01:53:38.000 Yeah, I got it posted.
01:53:39.000 So, he got real mad at me and went off after I said, and I feel like I said it quite dispassionately, that he's not welcome on this show, not because I have beef with him, I'm like, we'll just get banned.
01:54:07.000 So we can't do that.
01:54:09.000 He got really mad and then said something about Laura Loomer was on the show and I'm like, we took that episode down!
01:54:15.000 It was like this.
01:54:16.000 Tim shut it down.
01:54:17.000 And the other thing too about Laura is that she was making a point that I don't think was ban-worthy.
01:54:23.000 She's making a point that the codified penalty for treason is death.
01:54:26.000 And I said, yeah, we can't call for death penalty.
01:54:28.000 We don't do that.
01:54:29.000 He gloated and glorified.
01:54:31.000 It's very different.
01:54:33.000 Laura's response is, I'll try to be more cognizant of the rules I didn't realize.
01:54:36.000 His attitude is, so what if I said it?
01:54:39.000 I'll say it again.
01:54:39.000 So I'm like, you see the difference in why Laura's not banned from the show?
01:54:43.000 It's because her attitude is, no, no, no, I don't want to get you banned.
01:54:46.000 We want to do a good show and talk about important things.
01:54:48.000 Yeah, but they're never going to be good faith about that.
01:54:49.000 Oh, I know.
01:54:50.000 He's never going to be like, okay, yeah, that was totally reasonable.
01:54:53.000 And you know what?
01:54:53.000 When I go back on his platform in the future, I'll respect his platform under the assumption he would respect mine.
01:54:59.000 Never going to happen.
01:55:00.000 Never going to happen.
01:55:01.000 And that's why I said, I was like, I got no beef.
01:55:03.000 He's a guy with different political opinions.
01:55:05.000 He can say what he wants.
01:55:05.000 But, you know, for that reason, he won't come on.
01:55:08.000 And he's lost it.
01:55:08.000 Now, since then, he's just absolutely lost it.
01:55:11.000 I actually think it's when his wife left him.
01:55:14.000 The cuckold?
01:55:15.000 Well, I mean, I'm not going to tell you.
01:55:17.000 You can call him whatever you want.
01:55:19.000 I'm just saying, whatever happened between him and his wife clearly was devastating for him.
01:55:23.000 It happened between his wife and someone else.
01:55:25.000 Oh.
01:55:26.000 His wife left him for somebody else.
01:55:29.000 And his only opportunity, it seems, is to lean into it and say, so what?
01:55:33.000 I don't care.
01:55:34.000 Because he's being attacked for something pretty brutal for any man.
01:55:37.000 Yeah, if you're married to a woman in Holy Moly.
01:55:39.000 I mean, what's the story of Marcus Aurelius?
01:55:42.000 His wife cheated on him.
01:55:43.000 So he murdered the man she cheated with, boiled his blood, and then bathed her in it or something?
01:55:48.000 I didn't know that.
01:55:49.000 Was that the story of Marcus Aurelius?
01:55:50.000 That's kind of stoic.
01:55:51.000 That's a stoic Marcus.
01:55:54.000 Something like his wife cheated on him.
01:55:55.000 Let me see.
01:55:56.000 No, no, no.
01:55:56.000 Maybe he didn't boil the blood.
01:55:57.000 He killed the guy and poured the blood on her in public or something.
01:56:00.000 Wow.
01:56:01.000 Something like that.
01:56:03.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:56:04.000 I don't know enough about Marcus Aurelius.
01:56:06.000 I just read that on the internet somewhere.
01:56:08.000 Look that up.
01:56:09.000 We're looking right now.
01:56:10.000 Okay, you got it, Phil?
01:56:11.000 Well, I don't have it.
01:56:12.000 I'm looking.
01:56:12.000 No, I mean...
01:56:12.000 I mean, look.
01:56:15.000 Destiny is...
01:56:16.000 He's bad faith all the time.
01:56:18.000 Yes.
01:56:19.000 I mean, that's not...
01:56:20.000 There's no debate about that.
01:56:24.000 So, I mean, good riddance.
01:56:26.000 I mean, one of my favorite things on X that I enjoy is dunking on Destiny and some of these other far leftist, crazy, lunatic people.
01:56:35.000 I don't have an X that's fun, but when you get a chance to be like, this guy's crazy and psycho and out of his freaking mind, it's fun to share with the world, right?
01:56:46.000 Well, we've been pretty much laughing nonstop at Destiny for about a half a year, right?
01:56:52.000 Yes.
01:56:53.000 I made a shirt.
01:56:54.000 He's gone.
01:56:55.000 That's right.
01:56:57.000 He's gone progressively more insane.
01:57:00.000 You know what I mean?
01:57:01.000 As he has, his community has gone progressively more insane with him.
01:57:05.000 And so you can kind of collectively laugh at all of them because it's pretty funny.
01:57:09.000 So Marcus Rullis didn't kill his wife.
01:57:13.000 It is not correct.
01:57:15.000 Fustina Younger was his wife, I guess.
01:57:16.000 I was reading that the claims that she cheated and that he took any kind of retribution are largely mix-ups based on other myths.
01:57:23.000 Okay.
01:57:24.000 It's a good story, though.
01:57:24.000 Makes sense.
01:57:25.000 Not everything you read on the internet is true.
01:57:26.000 Yeah, Destiny is going to sit there and lash out at people that he feels like have slighted him somehow.
01:57:35.000 That's why he attacks Tim.
01:57:38.000 Tim was gracious enough to have him on the show.
01:57:41.000 Tim gave him props because he agreed with Kyle Rittenhouse.
01:57:45.000 Until Destiny started saying things that were...
01:57:48.000 No, until his wife left him.
01:57:50.000 Well, yeah, but I mean, the reason that you just articulated about why he's not welcome on the show, until he started saying things, you know, speaking about violence and stuff like that, Tim would welcome him on the show, you know?
01:58:01.000 He had him on twice.
01:58:01.000 So he's just salty because Tim was like, oh, I'm not going to have you on here because you're saying things about endorsing violence, you know?
01:58:11.000 Yeah.
01:58:12.000 Yeah, the first time we had him on, as we were getting ready for the show, I was like, you know we're going to agree on most things.
01:58:16.000 And he's like, like what?
01:58:18.000 And I was like, when it comes to tax policy and stuff, we're probably going to agree on these things.
01:58:23.000 And he's like, well, I don't know.
01:58:24.000 And then we largely did.
01:58:25.000 However, he is evil.
01:58:27.000 Yes, he is.
01:58:27.000 I'm not saying this to be emotional or disparaging.
01:58:30.000 He literally said on the show that Democrats should use crises as a means to manipulate the public to implement the change they want.
01:58:38.000 And I was like, ah, okay, that's evil.
01:58:40.000 And I was like...
01:58:42.000 You know, we were talking about, I can't remember, I think we're talking about COVID. And I said, Democrats are manipulating the crisis to make these changes.
01:58:48.000 He goes, when else would they do it?
01:58:50.000 And I was like, oh, but that's wrong.
01:58:52.000 And he's like, why?
01:58:53.000 I was like, well, okay.
01:58:54.000 I was like, that's an opinion you're allowed to have, I guess.
01:58:57.000 Thank you for expressing that.
01:58:59.000 All right.
01:59:01.000 Stephanie X says, Tim...
01:59:01.000 I mean, from their worldview, though.
01:59:03.000 That makes sense.
01:59:04.000 Yeah.
01:59:05.000 Stephanie X says, Tim, and you inspired me to open a business.
01:59:06.000 I have placed a rock on the pile every day.
01:59:09.000 Now we have launched.
01:59:10.000 It is a way to buy or sell local farm animals and similar items.
01:59:14.000 We could use the service to bring Timcast chickens to the world.
01:59:16.000 Let's talk.
01:59:17.000 Ooh!
01:59:17.000 I love it.
01:59:18.000 Yeah, we were talking about making Chicken City brand chickens.
01:59:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
01:59:23.000 And then basically just selling them.
01:59:24.000 So whereas a normal chicken could be like $5, $20, we'd sell them for $6 to $21 or something.
01:59:29.000 They're Chicken City brand.
01:59:31.000 Do they get like a tag or like a tattoo on their legs or something?
01:59:34.000 Oh, I don't know.
01:59:35.000 You can put the little bands on them to identify them as part of the flock.
01:59:39.000 Yeah, we're building Roberto's own house.
01:59:40.000 Because new Chicken City is live.
01:59:43.000 And so the chicken meter and all that is available.
01:59:45.000 If you go to chickencitylive.com, you can watch our chickens.
01:59:49.000 And if you give a super chat, an automatic dispenser will drop mealworms for them.
01:59:54.000 Yeah, Chris has it hooked up all nice.
01:59:56.000 And it's a big old area.
01:59:57.000 And then Kim just opened up the outside.
02:00:00.000 So pretty soon they're going to be able to go outside.
02:00:01.000 It's a big old nice area over there.
02:00:03.000 And every $100 that goes in...
02:00:06.000 The chicken party goes off and it plays music and disco lights and the chickens run over and they eat.
02:00:11.000 Chicken party!
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02:02:15.000 What about the snowflake one?
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02:02:37.000 Real quick, I just want to mention this because I'm just seeing the story right now.
02:02:40.000 I don't know if it's new.
02:02:42.000 No, it's from earlier in the day.
02:02:43.000 I just want to point this out.
02:02:44.000 The numbers on the Alex Jones bids were just released.
02:02:48.000 One company is FUAC, which is the supplement sales.
02:02:53.000 I believe Jones may be associated with it.
02:02:56.000 They say he's associated with it.
02:02:57.000 They put in a bid for all of Infowars' assets at $3.5 million.
02:03:02.000 They claim The Onion put in 1.75 million bid for Infowars.
02:03:06.000 And they said that they said, let's see, Connecticut families promising some one point seven five million cash.
02:03:13.000 In addition to a waiver from the Connecticut families promising some proceeds from the sale of Infowars assets, which Connecticut families valued at two point six to five million.
02:03:21.000 According to the filing, FUAC said accepting the onions bid was collusion and argued that including the contingent waiver and its valuation was improper.
02:03:29.000 So if this supplement company offered double what the onion was bidding for.
02:03:34.000 There's some impropriety there.
02:03:36.000 And now that I'm seeing these numbers, 3.5 Feels kind of small, though, in general.
02:03:43.000 I'm kind of thinking of putting a bid for InfoWars.
02:03:44.000 Oh, okay.
02:03:45.000 Let's go.
02:03:46.000 I mean, look, the brand is the brand.
02:03:48.000 I mean, I don't know that...
02:03:49.000 InfoWars.
02:03:51.000 I mean, if 3.5 is a bid that's going in for assets of 2.6, but you get InfoWars, I mean, that's kind of crazy because I feel like any Bitcoin millionaire could just fart and buy it.
02:04:02.000 Jason Dixon.
02:04:04.000 Yeah, Jason.
02:04:05.000 No, no, that's not even a joke.
02:04:07.000 Jason, if you're listening, you should buy InfoWars.
02:04:09.000 Yeah, 3.5, forget about it.
02:04:10.000 Wow.
02:04:11.000 And he lives down in the Texas area.
02:04:13.000 Really?
02:04:13.000 Yeah.
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