00:02:36.000All will be revealed when Tim comes back.
00:02:39.000But our lead story tonight very, very big stuff.
00:02:44.000Is the United States poised to take military action in the communist state, the communist island of Cuba, just miles off the southern coast of Miami?
00:02:57.000A place where I actually had the honor and privilege of serving at Guantanamo Bay for about a year.
00:03:07.000We have incredible guests here in studio joining us.
00:03:11.000And yes, Tim will be back as soon as possible.
00:03:15.000Possible, but we're very excited to also have as a special guest tonight, in addition to yours truly, Dr. Joseph Witt Doring.
00:03:22.000Hey, Jack, hey, really happy to be here.
00:03:25.000Tell us, but tell us who you are, tell us about yourself.
00:03:26.000Yeah, so I'm a psychiatrist, I help people come off psychiatric drugs that are ruining their life.
00:03:32.000I mean, what, what, all right, end of story like, just cut the show off right there.
00:03:36.000Yeah, what's how do you help people do that?
00:03:40.000So, um, do a lot of education, you know, talking about how throwing more psychiatric drugs at mental health problems in the U.S. is not helping people, in fact.
00:03:50.000And so I go around the country talking about that.
00:03:53.000And then in my clinic, we get all sorts of people coming in, and then we do these very long, slow tapers, get people off the drugs, because the doctors don't know how to get people off these medications.
00:04:04.000They mess it up, they go way too quickly.
00:04:07.000And then when people end up in withdrawal, they say, ah, your underlying illness, you need to stay on.
00:04:11.000And so that's why we've got like 17% of Americans on antidepressants right now.
00:04:19.000And so what we do is we pair these drug tapers with.
00:04:23.000All of the stuff that people should be doing.
00:04:25.000You know, we have therapy, we do dietary and lifestyle change, we do sleep training, and essentially give them all of the stuff that they should have been given instead of a prescription in a seven minute visit, you know, 10 years ago, which was just mindlessly continued.
00:04:42.000Well, here, let's put a pause on that because I think I want to come back to it, but let's go around the room because we're also joined by Libby Evans.
00:05:29.000Yeah, let's get it back to this first story.
00:05:31.000So, we saw the headline earlier today.
00:05:34.000This came down Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch, and CBS has the story.
00:05:40.000U.S. indicts Cuba's Raul Castro on murder and conspiracy charges for downing of planes in 1996.
00:05:48.000Libby, I think you were digging into what is the actual underlying case here?
00:05:52.000Yeah, so I was checking this out before the show, and Raul Castro has been charged for his alleged role in the February 24th, 1996 shoot down of.
00:06:02.000Two unarmed U.S. civilian aircraft operated by Brothers to the Rescue, also known as Hermanos al Rescate, over international waters.
00:06:12.000Once we take a closer look, it turns out that according to these allegations, three of these aircraft flew from South Florida toward Cuba.
00:06:20.000They were trying to look around and see if there were any Cuban migrants in need of assistance.
00:06:25.000Cuban military fighter jets under the chain of command overseen by Raul Castro fired air to air missiles at two unarmed civilian Cessna aircraft.
00:06:34.000Destroying them without warning while they were flying outside Cuban territory and killing four US nationals, including three citizens.
00:06:41.000It's like the Bay of Pigs all over again.
00:06:46.000Well, I don't know if it's Bay of Pigs because it's not a full, full on operation.
00:06:50.000But I guess the question here is do we, and I don't have any inside knowledge on this, but you know, the question is does this ratchet things up for the United States?
00:07:00.000And we'll, you know, throw it to the chat, throw it to everyone for the United States to potentially look.
00:07:04.000At an operation similar to Venezuela, because what happened immediately preceding that, Maduro was indicted.
00:07:13.000And remember, that is not seen as, you know, the media would say, oh, it's a kidnapping or it was, you know, they blackbagged him, et cetera.
00:07:20.000But officially speaking, from a legal perspective, that was extradition to go and stand charges for Nicolas Maduro.
00:07:28.000It was right before the, I think it was February, it was like right before the State of the Union.
00:07:31.000And right at the beginning of this year, where we woke up and said, oh my gosh, we've just arrested the.
00:07:37.000Leader of a foreign country brought him back to New York City to stand trial.
00:07:41.000So the question is, do you guys think that's going to happen here?
00:08:05.000That was a Soviet missile outpost for most of the Cold War, terrifying.
00:08:10.000The thing is, like, does this justify China taking Taiwan because it's right off their coast, too?
00:08:14.000I tend to think that the military industrial complex is in control of Earth right now.
00:08:17.000I don't think the Chinese are going to overstep, but I think it's the next step of securing the northern and, I guess, western hemisphere militarily and economically, personally.
00:08:45.000I don't know if this is the greatest thing to do.
00:08:48.000I'm not super jazzed about all of the foreign intervention in other nations, especially since with Venezuela, like if we're going to take Venezuela, I thought we could at least just take all their oil, but I'm still paying like $450 for gas.
00:09:12.000So that was going to be, so that was actually my take is that, because remember, so, um, Ratcliffe, the CIA director, was just down meeting with members of the Cuban government.
00:09:23.000And so this sets up, I think, kind of a different situation with Venezuela.
00:09:26.000You wouldn't really see high level officials doing a meeting like that, holding a meeting like that.
00:09:31.000And so, what I think might be even more interesting that's going on, and Axios has some good stories about this as well about how Marco Rubio is talking to elements of the government, including Raul Castro's grandson.
00:09:47.000So, Could he be setting it up where they're sort of like getting rid of the old communists and bringing in the new leadership who are cutting a deal with the Americans?
00:09:58.000And are they, I mean, are they communists too?
00:10:05.000But the point is, these would be pro US regime leaders.
00:10:09.000Well, this is eventually what happened in Venezuela.
00:10:13.000Just the question of, hey, do we actually need this military operation or not?
00:10:19.000So maybe it's just, maybe they hand them over.
00:10:21.000The last thing I'm going to say about Cuba, until I want to hear what you guys think about this too, is this is the Cuban crisis, the 100 year crisis of having communists control an island off our coast.
00:10:30.000Is a result of the Americans not seizing that island when they liberated it from the Spanish and the Spanish War.
00:10:36.0001898, we fought a war against the Empire of Spain to free Cuba.
00:10:42.000We let them be free and they chose a communist dictator.
00:11:15.000Because there's no status force agreement with the Cuban government.
00:11:18.000So, we could walk up to the fence, give or take.
00:11:21.000Supposedly, there's a lot of mines around there, so you don't want to get too close to the fence.
00:11:26.000And so, when you're there, you can look into Cuba and you're physically on the island of Cuba, but just sort of on the one tail end of it, as opposed to being able to get to the rest of it.
00:11:34.000We used to have a joke you could get these t shirts that said Guantanamo Bay, close, but no cigar.
00:11:42.000And it was interesting, though, because you could rent sailboats and motorboats and go fishing on the weekend or whatever in the actual bay itself.
00:11:50.000There's a lot of snorkeling down there, a lot of scuba.
00:11:53.000And I got into freediving a lot when I was there.
00:11:56.000And for whatever reason, the deal that we signed with the Cubans originally allowed them counter passage rights basically through the bay.
00:12:08.000So they would send their spy boats through the bay, pretty much.
00:12:11.000A couple times a week, you know, would send these boats with these guys with, you know, clearly had signal collectors on them and guys with huge binoculars would be looking through at us.
00:12:21.000And they would always say, like, hey, don't go too far up the river because then you're actually in Cuba and, you know, they might do something like this and shoot you down again or something like that.
00:12:32.000So I'll just say from a personal standpoint, I've always had this sort of interest in being able to actually see the rest of the island because you're sitting there for so long, you're just stewing because, like, you can't.
00:12:56.000So, I mean, that's really because remember, even in the Cuban Missile Crisis, that's because the United States had put long range missiles in Turkey.
00:13:03.000And then the Soviets put long range missiles in Cuba.
00:13:07.000So, as in missiles that could strike Moscow and missiles that could strike Washington, D.C.
00:13:11.000And of course, we just didn't really talk about that part.
00:13:18.000I mean, I'm just so fatigued with the foreign intervention stuff when we got 20 to 30 million problems to deal with here.
00:13:24.000I mean, it seems like they want to prioritize everything, including indicting a 94 year old guy instead of just like addressing problems that are more urgent and pressing here.
00:13:51.000This rips open a philosophical conversation about what the Romans did, seizing external territory to protect the mainland.
00:14:00.000Because you say you want to strengthen the United States, but if you have enemies literally on the border that can lob artillery into your country, you're not safe.
00:14:07.000So, just as the Romans did, we've reached out and basically taken land and subjugated countries around us in order to protect and strengthen the homeland, so to speak, especially economically, because you can extract the resources from them.
00:14:20.000So, at what point would you ever suggest we give.
00:14:24.000Pull out our bases of the 100 countries or wherever we have and just kind of turtle up.
00:14:29.000I mean, I'm not saying that's what you're saying, but.
00:15:01.000I certainly don't disagree with what you're saying at all.
00:15:02.000I do think, though, that I would draw a distinction between countries that are in our own hemisphere and countries that are literally on our doorstep, as opposed to ones that are thousands of miles away that, you know, are not a direct, you know, effect to us.
00:15:20.000Guantanamo, it's our oldest overseas base, 1898, to your point.
00:15:25.000And It's uh, we actually got to travel some of the like walk some of the steps of the Spanish American War.
00:15:31.000We were trying to find like Teddy Roosevelt and the Rough Riders where they actually had come through.
00:15:35.000And there's even a fair bit of evidence that Christopher Columbus even sailed into Guantanamo Bay.
00:15:40.000That, um, yeah, that there's like a plaque there that talks about he, I don't think he got off, but that he, I think it was his second trip and doing this from memory, but, but yeah, there was this plaque that you know, they're pretty sure that Columbus had come here and said, oh, this, you know, you could build a great city here and this would be an incredible economic uh driver, which it would be.
00:16:02.000So, like, I might say on the Middle East, I used to think, like, we got to get out of the Middle East, stop these Iraq, Afghanistan.
00:16:08.000That's why I started making YouTube videos.
00:16:09.000I was irate about that Iraqi invasion.
00:16:13.000But then I realized that we are now controlling the Suez Canal through force because we control those areas.
00:16:18.000Israel's stocked up with nukes, they were ready to blow anything up that tries to take it.
00:16:23.000If we were to retract from that, then the economic damage to the United States, especially where we're going post money, it's more about being able to transport goods than anything else.
00:16:33.000I feel like I'm almost going all in on military domination of the planet.
00:16:37.000And I mean, that would mean I have to go kill people.
00:16:41.000Like, I have to serve in order to really follow through with that.
00:17:24.000Because hopefully that diplomacy allows you to avoid a long protracted Iraq Afghanistan war situation and gets you to a point where both sides are able to put down the swords and are able to achieve some kind of lasting.
00:17:40.000New agreement as to, you know, in this case, the status of the Strait of Hormuz.
00:17:45.000And, you know, again, so it comes down to the waterways, just like you're saying, excuse me, Philly, waterways.
00:17:51.000And the idea, so, you know, Guantanamo Bay, why did it matter so much to early America?
00:17:57.000Well, it mattered because this was how we could extend our influence throughout the Western Hemisphere, throughout the Caribbean, throughout what's now the Gulf of America, et cetera, because you needed that as a coaling station.
00:18:10.000You know, for Navy ships to be able to go through, and then eventually planes and all the rest, even long before it became a detention facility.
00:18:29.000That's what, you know, fueled so much of their empire.
00:18:31.000It's just the understanding that if you control what they're called the strategic lines of communication, the SLOCs, or just choke points, these key maritime choke points around the world the Panama Canal, the Strait of Hormuz, the Strait of Malacca, the Taiwan Strait, Babel Mandeb, which is the Red Sea, the Suez Canal, which is the north part of the Red Sea.
00:18:49.000And That's, you know, this is where world power comes from because so much of our information in terms of data and so much of our goods in terms of not only energy and fuel, but also our manufactured goods because we have the system of globalism are transported on the seas.
00:19:08.000And a lot of people think, oh, well, we have Starlink, it goes from satellites.
00:19:12.000My concern about diplomacy with Iran, which you mentioned is probably the key vector in what you had asked, is that I watched Scott Horton on Joe Rogan's show, which you should watch.
00:19:21.000If you care about any of this, watch it.
00:19:24.000And Horton said the new leader of Iran, who was like the son of the old one that got killed, that the Americans killed his wife and child.
00:19:33.000And now he's like, how could he not be more radicalized than his father at this point?
00:19:56.000And for these people, as far as I understand, I don't have a completely sophisticated understanding of Iranian culture, but it seems like that's probably a worst case scenario.
00:20:05.000You make a martyr out of their leader.
00:20:06.000Oh, and if you killed somebody's wife and kid, like, well, yeah.
00:20:25.000But at the same time, you have to say, does Iran want, is it in their interest to get into this massive war with the United States?
00:20:33.000Or is it to their interest to go back to maintaining a stable country, to preserving their regime, to having some kind of, obviously, the revenue from the oil that be able to come through, which they're currently not able to get through because of the blockade?
00:20:48.000So what's in the better long term interests?
00:21:27.000Well, that's that bin Laden had the same thing, right?
00:21:30.000That's why bin Laden stuff would always be like a cassette tape that was smuggled in a pouch that would, you know, end up in a courier, et cetera, et cetera, because they always knew that the intelligence agencies were about to get them.
00:21:41.000And I got to imagine that's what they want is to find this guy and destroy him.
00:22:38.000I mean, it's hard for me to understand that this is diplomacy at an intelligent level, what Trump is doing.
00:22:45.000I mean, he just seems too erratic, unless you want to go with the 5D chess argument.
00:22:49.000I don't mean to give a low resolution interpretation of the this is diplomacy, but I mean, I don't understand the erratic behavior from Trump.
00:22:56.000Is he trying to be crazy like a fox, or what's the play here?
00:23:00.000Well, I think the big play, and that we haven't quite seen all of the back end part of it, is China.
00:23:09.000So I think that China and the meeting with China was very strategic.
00:23:13.000I think now, what do we see China's meeting with China?
00:23:16.000Putin, right now, so, or I guess it was yesterday, and now Putin flew back.
00:23:20.000And so, the real question is is China going to come in with leverage to create some kind of grand deal where, okay, the US, Israel, that gets turned off, but they come in.
00:23:32.000And the biggest thing that the White House was saying over and over was that we both agreed Iran should not have a nuclear weapon.
00:23:55.000Like, I understand maybe like flexing on the country because they have all these like little satellite militia groups that are constantly like, you know, attacking our ally over in that country.
00:24:05.000And it's like, okay, we're going to, you know, we're going to come in.
00:24:11.000I mean, they also say like in parliament, there have been repeated times when the entire Iranian parliament is calling for death to America.
00:24:25.000So, the argument would go that if this is truly a radical regime, and if they got, and the president says this over and over and over, that if they got nukes, they would use them.
00:24:35.000And that this is a different scenario than, say, the other countries you mentioned because they're not, they are actually radical.
00:25:14.000And it's been Israel's concern for nearly 40 years.
00:25:16.000And actually, just on North Korea, just on the North Korea example, they've also demonstrated submarine launch capability.
00:25:23.000And the reason that submarine launch capability is so key.
00:25:26.000Is because that's second strike capability.
00:25:28.000That means even if you take out, so let's say we do a preemptive strike, take out Pyongyang, take out Kim Jong un.
00:25:35.000If there's a sub out there that's got some nuclear tipped hot ones on there, that sub can still reach out and strike Tokyo or Beijing or Seoul or perhaps even Seattle, San Francisco, LA.
00:25:48.000How likely is it or possible is it that North Korea has submarines literally off the coast of the United States?
00:26:28.000So, the whole idea is that, and this gets into the psychology of MAD from the Cold War, like we were talking about before, that I can, and what nuclear weapons actually do, it's this interesting situation where we've created a weapon that's so powerful that You can't use it, right?
00:26:44.000Because if everyone gets it, then everyone destroys you, blow up the whole world.
00:26:48.000It's like, I forgot what the number is like 42 minutes, or there's different scenarios, but very quickly the whole world gets blown up.
00:26:54.000And so the idea being that, hey, and to your point about the strategic calculus, then, and this is something that I've raised, and I've seen a lot of people raise as well, is does this actually create a scenario where regimes that want to be truly independent?
00:27:15.000Actually, they are incentivized to seek nuclear weapons because we saw Libya, for example, in the wake of the Iraq invasion that you're mentioning, they gave up their nuclear program only for about what seven years later to have NATO come in and bomb them to smithereens and have Gaddafi sodomized in the street and murdered.
00:27:37.000And so, the question being that, well, if he had nukes, would they have been able to do that?
00:28:01.000That's what makes me think that the Iranians would never use it if they had it.
00:28:05.000They would just use it like the North Koreans.
00:28:08.000And the idea is they want to disarm them ahead of time so that they can seize the country, take the oil, go back to the Anglo oil companies that were under the Shah.
00:30:19.000No, you do have to look at what Iran has done.
00:30:23.000Like you say, Iran might not use a nuclear weapon.
00:30:26.000But if you look at the way that they have used their influence around the region, and I'm not like pro Iran war, I kind of am just not really in favor.
00:30:35.000But when you look at it and how they've used their influence around the region, this is one thing that Trump said.
00:30:40.000When we started this whole conflict, he said that one of the goals was to prevent the Iranian regime from using their political influence outside of their borders.
00:30:50.000Iran has used their influence to fund Hamas, right?
00:30:55.000They okayed, they greenlit the October 7th attack.
00:30:59.000That's something the Wall Street Journal reported on shortly after that attack.
00:31:03.000Iran greenlit the October 7th Hamas attack on Israel.
00:31:08.000That was, you know, I mean, the Wall Street Journal had good reporting on that.
00:31:12.000They also have been backing Hezbollah and they've been funding all of these groups as part of their effort to destroy Israel, which they're very intent on destroying Israel and they're using every conceivable means to do it.
00:31:25.000And if you also look back at the Iranian Revolution, what was it, 78?
00:31:33.000It was shortly after that that, in fact, the Islamic regime of Iran started really getting into using this term Islamophobia and perpetrating this among the West.
00:31:44.000To try and prevent the West from being able to criticize the regime.
00:31:48.000And then after 9 11, Iranian funded and Arab funded groups started pushing all of this anti Islamophobia stuff into American academic institutions and into our textbook publications and things like that.
00:32:06.000So they've been pulling like a whole op on us for decades to try and prevent us from being able to criticize them while they continue to attack our, you know.
00:32:19.000So I think you could look at it and say, would they use nukes?
00:32:22.000Like, there's a good chance that if they just wanted a one shot to get rid of Israel, they'd go for it.
00:32:28.000Man, I wonder that if that could trigger nuclear catastrophe across the globe, which would.
00:32:33.000Yeah, I mean, I wonder if they care about that.
00:32:36.000Like, they don't seem to care about any of this stuff right now.
00:32:40.000They've massacred a bunch of their citizens because of protests and, you know, protests.
00:32:43.000I'm going to be devil's advocate on you then.
00:32:45.000Then why don't they just bomb Israel all the time?
00:32:48.000I think they do bomb Israel all the time through proxies.
00:32:51.000No, I mean, like, they have, so Iran has significant ballistic missile capability, not intercontinental, so they don't pose a direct threat to the United States.
00:33:01.000They can range Europe, they can range, but they certainly can range Israel, as we've seen.
00:33:40.000I mean, well, I guess what I'm trying to say, though, is that we are seeing elements of pragmatism there.
00:33:48.000We are seeing elements of decision making of things where perhaps they are, to what I was saying to Chris before, they are actually considering regime long term survival, stability, that they're not, you know, perhaps it's not quite as, you know, Constant with the need to blow up everyone all the time.
00:34:09.000But to your point, remember they're content with this sort of low level of it.
00:34:13.000But you do see elements of pragmatism, and I don't think we should discount that.
00:34:16.000Yeah, they say Islamism and that it's a radical Islamic government.
00:35:13.000And that's one of the reasons why maybe going in there right now and just saying, if you're going to keep on doing this, we're going to start taking out your leaders.
00:35:22.000We're going to make it really uncomfortable for you.
00:35:54.000Well, this is actually a good jumping off point into our next topic because I want to get there because we're talking about all the international politics.
00:36:02.000But what's amazing is that all of these geopolitics are now playing a role in our elections directly here in the United States on both.
00:36:12.000Sides of the aisle, believe it or not, boys and girls.
00:36:15.000And we've got this from the New York Times.
00:36:18.000Candidates backed by Trump, Ocasio Cortez.
00:36:23.000That doesn't mean together, by the way.
00:38:15.000And perhaps this is sort of a Democrat, as Democrat Socialist, as Ian saying, response to that slogan, We Save Us.
00:38:24.000So Make America Great Again, I mean, I've gone through this for years, but it's active.
00:38:31.000It's got nostalgia in it, baked in great again, right?
00:38:36.000Hearkening back to the past, of course, Donald Trump, you know, ubiquitous with the 80s and 90s.
00:38:40.000So there's a lot of nostalgia just wrapped up into his figure to begin with.
00:38:44.000Um, but it's also nostalgia for America as a great power, as a great country.
00:38:48.000People can always, you know, think back to these, these, uh, uh, Libya, I believe, as the French say, uh, la vie en rue, uh, the, the, uh, you know, the rosy view of the past.
00:39:00.000And, uh, I told you we were watching Audrey Hepburn movies.
00:40:44.000I mean, part of the progressive thing is they think the people who are progressives believe that an expert class should decide what happens to the rest of us.
00:40:52.000And that's one thing that I appreciate much more about, you know, populism and even federalism it's not about like experts ruling over us.
00:41:00.000It's about the government being accountable to the people, which I think is much more important.
00:41:15.000Well, one piece that I do want to say on this, just speaking as a Pennsylvanian and also looking at how things are going in PA, when you see the Democrat Party going so far to the left in terms of this, that's going to create a real political situation for John Fetterman.
00:41:35.000Yeah, I think the Democrats are already so out of step with his party that this, if this is the way the Democrat Party and the Democrat constituency is going in Philadelphia, then You are going to see that across the state.
00:41:52.000And he's got a race coming up in 2028.
00:42:34.000And you've already heard also, you've heard Obama and so many others saying that Mamdani is the face of the Democratic Party and is the future of the Democrat Party.
00:42:42.000And so you see that all over the place, right?
00:42:53.000Katie Wilson in Seattle, Karen Bass in Los Angeles.
00:42:57.000You have people who are not just, you know, dabbling, putting their toes in the waters of socialism, but people who proclaim that that's their ideology and their mission.
00:43:06.000And what that looks like in practice, Mamdani put out a little infographic earlier complaining about how people on food stamps are going to be required to work, saying that will lead to starvation, which obviously doesn't make any sense.
00:43:18.000But what he's saying is, He wants people to, and he's saying if the government really wanted people to have jobs, then they would provide more jobs, more government jobs for people to have.
00:43:32.000And if Obama is to be believed, this is the vision of the Democrat Party.
00:43:36.000It is that Americans will work for the government, buy their groceries at government stores, have their children raised by the government, right?
00:43:48.000It's that your kid is in a government.
00:43:51.000Operated educational facility from the time they're two years old.
00:43:55.000That's way too, like, that's crazy town, right?
00:43:57.000And also that you will rent all your housing from the government.
00:44:01.000Their idea is to have more government run housing all over the place.
00:44:05.000And that makes the American subservient to government, which is exactly the opposite of our founding documents.
00:44:12.000What I like about it and what didn't exist when the founders were are mega corporations that are international, the BlackRock headquarters in wherever, Switzerland, all these crazy big, not saying BlackRock's in Switzerland, but so I understand the socialists.
00:44:26.000Movement in that they want to disempower the corporations.
00:44:54.000Meta laid off 8,000 people, and this is just one of many rolling layoffs that they've had.
00:45:00.000And they reassigned, they're reassigning 7,000 of their staffers to essentially train AI, right?
00:45:07.000And the way they're going to train AI is they're going to do their jobs, and AI is going to monitor every keystroke and every mouse stroke that these employees do.
00:45:17.000It might come to a point where we, I say we, but people on the right decide to ally with the people on the left, the socialists and the popular, whatever you want to call them, the capitalists, ally to stop these vacant corporations, these AI run machines that are trying to own land and rent it to you.
00:45:35.000And there'll be like a mass upheaval and seizure of property.
00:46:24.000That's going to be a problem in the Democrat primary when you've got voters elected.
00:46:27.000That was already a problem for Kamala.
00:46:29.000And we were told, all right, in Kamala's book, she wrote that one of the reasons she didn't choose him was because she didn't think that they could drive out enough votes.
00:46:38.000She thought it would be a problem for the ticket.
00:46:51.000You know what's interesting about Tim Walz?
00:46:52.000Here's my thought with Tim Walz is that what the Democrats are doing is that they sort of know that they need white men to start voting for them again.
00:47:03.000And so what they're doing is they're trying to find white men that kind of fit the bill, but they always kind of get it wrong.
00:47:09.000And so Tim Walz was like the first laboratory Igor prototype that kind of got rolled off.
00:47:41.000And, well, Graham Planter is the latest in Maine, where, you know, I would say he at least comes off as more authentic as a veteran, and he is a combat veteran, but also he's like, He's also got that really narcissistic tendency that a lot of these Democrats do, going back to the We Save Us, where he, I guess it came out that he was putting down other veterans and attacking people who died and things like that.
00:48:08.000Talking about cheating on his wife in Thailand.
00:48:10.000And so, and these, well, again, veteran.
00:48:15.000And I think those are much better lines of attack than like going after him for a tattoo, because I think that was just foolhardy of the Republicans to do.
00:49:48.000Unless you've got to have like a secret conversation, like thieves can't, like if it's illegal to say a certain thing and you have like a symbol of like the Christian fish.
00:50:58.000And then, so like AIPAC, for instance.
00:51:00.000Well, so the pushback on that is they would say it's American citizens who vote a certain way, not foreign in terms of actually being generated from a foreign country.
00:51:12.000And like if a guy takes a contract from a foreign country, Earns the money and then gives that to a campaign.
00:51:17.000It's technically domestic money, but like, there's a lot of that.
00:51:22.000There's, I mean, it, no, as someone who's worked in elections and worked in campaigns, that, you know, you, once you start ask, actually asking these questions, it, you realize how complicated it becomes very quickly.
00:52:08.000I mean, I feel like it's like, how do you stop it?
00:52:11.000Well, I think transparency is the best sunlight.
00:52:14.000I mean, like Chris, you were just saying, this is trackable, it's something that You know, that people can see, hey, this much money came from groups that were tied to this thing, whether it's APAC or others.
00:52:27.000And that it, I think it tends to be something that's, you know, something that younger voters are actually better at tracking just because they're on the internet more, they're using the internet more.
00:52:38.000And so this was a huge thing that you saw in that primary, for example, was that when you're looking at some of the exit polls on this, so on Massey, because I saw a lot of people saying, oh, you know, Massey totally flamed out, et cetera, et cetera.
00:52:51.000And to be clear, by the way, President Trump clearly showed that he is in command of the Republican Party solidly and solely.
00:53:01.000And that election, plus Louisiana, plus Texas, plus Indiana a couple of weeks ago, just shows it in spades.
00:53:09.000But what Massey showed was that he was able to pick up every under 65 demographic in the district.
00:53:17.000Now, they didn't vote as much as the over 65, so he lost.
00:54:14.000Make him show why he's a good president.
00:54:15.000And so, by the way, I've heard that, and Justin Amash is someone who's been sort of like, his name is out there for perhaps libertarian candidates.
00:54:24.000I would also just go back to this specific race here.
00:54:27.000Is caution everyone from reading too much into it as well because keep in mind this was a closed Republican primary, and in a closed Republican primary, that means that independent voters don't have a say.
00:54:39.000And now I'm personally of the opinion that a primary should be closed because if you're running as a Republican candidate, you should only face Republican voters.
00:54:49.000But what I'm saying is, from a political analytic standpoint, that you don't want to read so much into a closed primary that extrapolates to a general election because in a general election, You will get Democrats, you will get independents, you will get crossover voters, you'll get everything, right?
00:55:05.000And so this is a select pool of people that, yes, President Trump by far is in control of his base there.
00:55:14.000But there's some information, I would say, under the hood that gives me pause and says, I think there's something a little more nuanced going on.
00:55:45.000Which, by the way, doesn't surprise me at all that Trump would be against Massey because of the Democrats clearly wanting to use him as the face of the resistance for opposition to the BBB, the big beautiful bill, and just in general for not being strong on the border, not being strong on deportations, which is his signature issue.
00:56:27.000If a dude in like Mauritania made internet videos telling you to vote for Thomas Massey or whoever, and he's getting a million hits per video, and YouTube is allowing the videos to be on the algorithm to show up, should we make it illegal?
00:56:43.000Should we force these corporations to ban foreign people's accounts that are trying to manipulate American politics?
00:56:54.000And I guess you have to draw the line somewhere because, at least with, you know, you have an influencer who has a big following and they get a lot of views, but you may have influencers on the other side that kind of balance that out.
00:57:06.000The thing with foreign money is, I mean, you can just run ads on Meta.
00:57:10.000I mean, you don't have to really be that persuasive.
00:57:15.000Into the machine, and all of a sudden, you have hit piece ads out against your opposition.
00:57:20.000You're everywhere, so people see who you are.
00:57:23.000And there's something about that that's just unfair, especially when it's to the realm of like $30 million and the other side isn't getting anything.
00:57:31.000So, with the Massey thing, that was the, someone told me it was the highest grossing primary ever in the history of the United States.
01:00:46.000But I think, yeah, I mean, if you're running for office, it's because you really want to represent your constituency or you want power.
01:00:51.000But that's something I always think about when people vote out an incumbent who has a lot of power in, you know, the legislature is you wonder, like, is my district not going to be heard as much because we're getting rid of this guy?
01:01:44.000Well, it's, I don't think it's necessarily that they're thinking about that way.
01:01:48.000It's just that, hey, you know, it's just sort of this idea of like, Congress sucks, except for my guy.
01:01:56.000But I think that's true of everybody, right?
01:01:58.000Like, I always think, I don't think very highly of Congress, but I do think my congressman is a pretty good guy and I think he's trying his hardest and doing a good job.
01:03:00.000And she'd be, you know, he'd have her set up within the week.
01:03:04.000No, I think, and I think a big part of it too is if you're going to nationalize and internationalize an election, you know, the question is, do you want someone who, you know, in this case, do you want someone who's pro Israel, anti Israel?
01:03:16.000So you've got to go into a district that, you know, depending who they, depending where it is, Israel may not be one, two, or three on anyone's priority list.
01:03:49.000And Massey, by the way, and this is something that I think a lot of people need to point out too, is that, and I don't know if his supporters will appreciate this, is that in a lot of his messaging, including a text message that he put out, he was showing that he was closer to Trump.
01:04:05.000So he was trying to counter that with like old endorsements or old videos of him closer to Trump because that's where the voters are.
01:04:12.000Yeah, Trump wanted him to pull that down.
01:04:29.000Hey, man, welcome to politics, brother.
01:04:31.000When you mention anti Israel, I'm like, you got to be like, I'm not saying you, but one has to be very clear what that means.
01:04:36.000Aspects like you can be a, I mean, he said it in his uh, in his speech, you know, he made the crack about uh, you know, he said his opponent was in Tel Aviv, yeah.
01:04:46.000So, like, dissing on the Israeli military's strategy doesn't necessarily make you anti Israel.
01:04:53.000Like, sometimes I'll crap on this the tactics of the American government, I'm very pro American government, I want them to have better tactics, so I'll point out when they're doing bad and encourage them to do better.
01:05:27.000Because I don't, as a voter, like when I look around at my representatives, like Israel is not really the top of my list of anything to care about.
01:05:36.000Like they started the Iranian war, you could argue, and then they bombed, or they were like, we're going, and Trump's like, well, We weren't ready for it, but okay, now we'll send our U.S. military assets because the Israelis sparked a fireball.
01:06:14.000The narrative I hear about Israel is just that it's really frustrating to see the government focus on that issue when, you know, there's so many people, you know, there's inflation going on, AI is taking our jobs, all of these things.
01:06:30.000And it's like, why aren't we focused on these problems?
01:06:33.000Why aren't we focused on these problems at home?
01:06:34.000Why do I have to, you know, turn on the news and hear about the billions of dollars and the Navy going around the world?
01:07:34.000The friendly skies just got a little bit friendlier.
01:07:37.000TSA is now allowing medical marijuana to be taken on commercial flights.
01:07:42.000Change significant because although cannabis for medical use is now legal in 40 states and DC, it remains outlawed at the federal level, which of course has jurisdictional control over the nation's.
01:07:52.000This comes after the Trump admin signed an order reclassifying marijuana as a Schedule III drug, effectively acknowledging that it has medicinal uses and allowing medical research at a federal level.
01:08:04.000Doctor prescribed weed is now formally allowed on flights, both within customers' checked and carry on baggage, according to the TSA website, which is more concerned with thwarting potential safety threats than narking on passengers' stashes.
01:08:21.000They're not going to be searching for illegal drugs, but if any illegal substance or criminal activity is found, They'll refer it to law enforcement.
01:09:08.000I think the hominid evolved alongside eating this stuff and maybe smoking it.
01:09:12.000But you were mentioning earlier that they basically Frankenstein this stuff in labs to have excessive amounts of THC driving children's psychosis and even adult psychosis.
01:09:56.000Well, a study was done about 10 years ago.
01:09:59.000It was in the UK, and they looked at what is the conversion to schizophrenia in two groups of people who were smoking cannabis products.
01:10:07.000You had one group who was smoking 5% concentration.
01:10:11.000Which is really the stuff that most people smoked in like the 90s, early 2000s.
01:10:16.000And then they had another group that was on 15%.
01:10:19.000They looked at the rate of conversion to schizophrenia.
01:10:21.000It was five times higher in the group that was on the 15%.
01:10:25.000And so, a couple other stats here that are important is the background rate of conversion is 1%.
01:10:32.000The group that was smoking 5% stuff every day, no difference, no difference compared to the background rate.
01:10:38.000But once you start going up to that 15% range and even higher, It goes up by a factor of five.
01:10:44.000This is because it's the acute dose basically is breaking or causing.
01:10:50.000I don't know if you know the science behind what it's doing specifically.
01:10:53.000I think it's causing brain damage, is what's happening.
01:10:56.000I think the cannabis that people are smoking now is neurotoxic.
01:11:00.000And because what they're seeing is if you're smoking this high concentration THC, you have a five fold higher risk of getting diagnosed with schizophrenia.
01:11:10.000Schizophrenia is not just like a drug induced psychosis where you smoke and then, hey, A couple days later, when you sober up, it goes away.
01:11:27.000Because what happens is you get a kid, they go away to college, they join a frat, and then they start smoking weed with their buddies.
01:11:36.000And for whatever genetic reason, they're just more susceptible to this.
01:11:39.000And then they have a psychotic episode.
01:11:41.000This isn't a kid who looked like he was going to develop schizophrenia.
01:11:45.000You know, previously high functioning, social, doing well in school.
01:11:48.000But then he has a psychotic episode and he's just not the same afterwards.
01:11:52.000You know, there's just kind of these ongoing delusions that happen afterwards.
01:11:58.000And the only way that I can understand it is that the drug actually damaged his brain.
01:12:04.000And there's a whole lady, I mean, there's a lady on YouTube, her name's Aubrey Adams.
01:12:08.000She does a channel called Every Brain Matters where they interview young men and their parents who have gone through drug induced psychoses.
01:12:14.000And if you listen to these stories, like, When you have a drug induced psychosis from cannabis, these kids, it takes them like a year or sometimes two years to get better.
01:12:24.000Really, just to get their thing back together, just like get their life back together?
01:12:28.000Yeah, I mean, it's almost like you've had like a toxic reaction.
01:12:31.000Like they might have a really bad psychosis at first, but then for the rest of the years, they're kind of going in and out of paranoia and delusions.
01:12:38.000They have mood instability, their mood swings, things like that.
01:12:41.000And so it's taking them a long time to normalize.
01:12:44.000And what's happening in the meantime is they're getting diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar and getting jacked up on all these antipsychotic drugs.
01:12:52.000And that's essentially when they come to me.
01:12:54.000It's like years later, they've sobered up, they come off, and they're like, why am I on a drug for schizophrenia?
01:13:06.000I mean, the concentration is just crazy.
01:13:08.000I mean, like, I get so much pushback when I talk about this because there's like some really diehard stoners out there, and they're just like, this is some reefer madness bull from like the 70s.
01:13:19.000Like, we've gone through this before, it's really not that big of a deal.
01:13:22.000But it's like, no, I mean, the stuff we're smoking now is, you know, it's like Frankenstein weed.
01:13:29.000You know, they've multiple generations of picking the strongest strains.
01:13:33.000You grow it hydroponically, you know, filled with fertilizers.
01:13:36.000And then you can even take it a step further where you're getting concentrates and dabs, and people are vaping it.
01:13:41.000And they're trying to pretend that it's the same thing that we smoked back in the 90s or in the 70s or, you know, before 2010 when the technology just.
01:13:58.000So for whatever it's worth, I used to love smoking weed, but it was the weed that was grown on farms from people that I knew, you know, whether it was.
01:15:31.000We ended up just like somehow making it to a hotel because what the experience that we had had smoking essentially the ditch weed back in Australia, I mean, it was already like back then, it was just so crazy strong.
01:17:21.000So, it's not legal anywhere in Pennsylvania, but it's decriminalized, meaning it's a citation, which you're probably not going to get picked up.
01:17:38.000And it's like Tanya, my wife, Tanya Tay, she doesn't want to take the kids there when she's smelling this all over the place.
01:17:43.000Supposed to be illegal in parks, but they do it anyway.
01:17:46.000What other types of social outcomes are we seeing from this in terms of crime, in terms of perhaps, unfortunately, psychosis induced, perhaps violence?
01:17:58.000I mean, the main thing that people kept on saying, oh, this is going to.
01:18:04.000You know, we're going to legalize cannabis and it's going to help these minority communities where, you know, where the use, you know, there's not going to be as much dealing with it.
01:18:14.000Less people are going to be going to jail.
01:18:18.000You know, it was the worst thing for the minority communities because cannabis rates went up.
01:18:23.000And that does not help people, you know, when you're, you know, when a larger proportion of your community is getting high.
01:18:30.000I mean, there's the, and so I want to say this here.
01:18:35.000We are actually, I think we're standing on a precipice of this problem getting a lot worse because what was buried in that story there was about how it was reclassified to Schedule 3 from Schedule 1.
01:18:47.000And so, what that means is there's essentially tax breaks now for these cannabis companies.
01:18:56.000So, now these companies are going to have tax breaks, which means they're going to be able to spend more money on marketing.
01:19:04.000And this is a massive billion dollar industry now.
01:19:08.000That's really kind of pushing these narratives like it's natural, it's safe, it's not a big deal.
01:19:13.000And I'm not going to sit here and say, hey, we should take the weed away from the guy who has glaucoma or the weed away from someone who has end stage cancer and they just want something for pain.
01:19:23.000There's clearly some use case scenarios in there.
01:19:27.000But this thing has just expanded so large now where these small use case scenarios is just like, it's normal, it's natural.
01:19:36.000People smoke weed every night to go to sleep.
01:19:38.000People smoke weed whenever they're having problems with anxiety.
01:19:41.000And they're smoking this crazy stuff, it's going to lead to higher car accidents and things like that.
01:19:46.000I don't want to live in a place where I have to worry about people being high on the road.
01:20:00.000Do you think it'll get to the point where we start delineating between like old school weed, like 5% THC, and this is the stuff that might help you go to sleep and then everything else?
01:20:09.000Yeah, Ian, I actually think that's what we should do.
01:20:11.000I mean, if we want to let the genie out of the bottle and say, hey, you know, You know, responsible adults should be able to get this stuff.
01:20:18.000There needs to be a big time education campaign on how bad the strongest stuff is.
01:20:22.000And there needs to be requirements that in the dispensaries, it's like, hey, you need to stock sub 10% concentrations from back in the day for people who want to use that product, but not put themselves at that increased risk of psychosis and all of those problems.
01:20:39.000I mean, there's been what's interesting about substances, right?
01:20:42.000Is that we've had times in this country where everyone talks about 100 years ago, you could.
01:20:49.000Order, you know, cocaine and heroin from the Sears catalog, or Coca Cola used to actually have cocaine in it.
01:20:55.000Um, but at the same time, you've also got things right now like fentanyl, like you can go to any hospital and they have fentanyl as a painkiller, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go pick up some at the pharmacy.
01:21:08.000I mean, it's I got a press release today about how, um, there's fentanyl, like how some of these like marijuana vapes are being um spiked with fentanyl.
01:22:03.000Like, you look into it and they're like, yeah, he was, he was, I think he was living in like a homeless shelter or something like that at the time.
01:22:11.000And they talked to one of his bunk mates over there and they were just like, he was just constantly smoking K2.
01:22:16.000And so he goes and has a psychotic episode and ends up dying because he causes a public disturbance on the train.
01:22:22.000And Daniel Penny obviously jumped in and, you know, choked him out and he died.
01:22:27.000But that's, Like you'll start to see, you know, a lot of these random things.
01:22:32.000Do you think, by the way, and now we're getting into trouble, but do you think that him being on the K2 could have contributed to his death as well?
01:23:19.000Then Jordan Neely, or excuse me, Daniel Penny, which I don't think anyone actually thinks that he wanted, you know, for him to die, but, you know, it probably didn't realize that he was in this, in this, uh, You know, K2 state, the psychotic state.
01:23:40.000No, it's just freaky when, like, when people are freaking out on the subway, it's terrifying.
01:23:44.000Freaking out alone in my room is terrifying.
01:23:45.000Trapped in a tin can with, like, a nut job.
01:23:48.000I one time had this guy who was clearly tripping out on something and he had a weird clown face on and he kept walking up to everybody like this and then, like, looking right in your face like this.
01:23:59.000And it would turn into that situation where, like, the whole normal population of the train car was crowded down one end while this.
01:24:06.000Guy was like doing his weird creepy Kalan thing at the other end.
01:24:09.000Yeah, what's amazing is that when you go to other parts of the world, Japan, Eastern Europe, this doesn't happen usually.
01:24:15.000You find out that we actually don't have to live like this.
01:24:17.000I keep saying this doesn't happen other places.
01:24:20.000And, you know, once you realize it, you know, what Bukele can do down in El Salvador, et cetera, is that there are places where they, you know, they take people like this and they say, get out of public, get out of here.
01:26:02.000Oh, because only because I just watched an Instagram video.
01:26:06.000This isn't the only reason, but Brian Wilson, the founder of the Beach Boys, you know, one of the greatest bands of all time, human history.
01:27:06.000Well, I was going to say, you know, in that study, the people that were smoking that 5% to 8%, they had no higher rate of conversion to schizophrenia than just the general population.
01:27:21.000So if you're going, and I just don't know how this works, but if you're going to a dispensary, is this something that you can sort of request?
01:28:27.000I've had marijuana where there's no THC or like 1% and it's all CBD.
01:28:32.000And there's data about that because the synthetic stuff that is just made in a lab that just like hits that receptor hard, as you know, full on, is much worse than even the buds that you get that are even stronger.
01:28:52.000If it gets them really hot really fast and flashes them and they burn?
01:28:56.000I think it's just, I mean, I'm not sure what it is, but it's toxic.
01:29:00.000And, you know, the last thing that I really want to make about this, which is important, is I actually think it leads to the homelessness crisis.
01:29:09.000I think a lot of homeless people on the street right now are actually there because they have brain damage.
01:29:18.000And, you know, Brett Cooper was talking about it recently as well.
01:29:21.000She has a brother who, you know, that's right.
01:29:24.000It was, you know, in all this time that you've been mentioning it, I knew that there was someone I had seen recently, you know, on Twitter talking about it.
01:29:34.000And for years, the doctors told them that her brother had schizophrenia.
01:29:38.000And then, you know, when a lot of this started coming out in the last couple of years about how dangerous the new pot is, she was like, oh, it was actually drug induced psychosis.
01:29:45.000And he suffered from homelessness for a really long time.
01:29:49.000And they tried everything that they could to kind of get him help.
01:29:52.000But he's, you know, it sounds like he's still suffering.
01:29:55.000I'd like to see an fMRI scan of a patient under the influence of like a 29% and then underneath, under the influence of a 5%.
01:30:19.000We need an NIMH director who's really going to be wise to these.
01:30:22.000Problems and not just following what the pharmaceutical industry wants them to do, which is essentially just look for more targets for pharmaceutical drugs.
01:30:29.000And unfortunately, the Schedule Three, which I was against very publicly against, you may recall, that it's, you know, sure, they're going to be funding research.
01:30:40.000Of course, they're going to be funding research.
01:30:41.000And I wonder what that research is going to say, right?
01:30:44.000You know, they'll make sure to get it out.
01:30:46.000And the reason that was such a big deal is because it makes it so that you can write that off as a business expense now.
01:30:53.000And they'll do things like they'll be like, We found no evidence that it leads to psychosis.
01:32:07.000Before we go to super chats, I wanted to make that point too, because I do think, uh, and here this will be my uh thought crime of the night, I guess, that not really though, but to your point, that I do think that it affects people differently who have different genetics.
01:32:21.000I think these people, some people are predisposed to it, and that clearly speaks to you know what you're saying about how you know Brian Wilson can go and write pet sounds and the Beatles can go and create their music, and given that that's at a lower dosage, etc., but but at the same time, you know, there's other people who just completely You know, completely go wild on it.
01:32:40.000It's kind of like where, you know, you see those people who are 100 years old sometimes and you're like, How'd you get to 100?
01:32:45.000And they go, I smoked a pack of cigarettes every day and I drank some wiki and I was fine.
01:32:52.000And you're like, But then other people get lung cancer at like 60.
01:32:57.000So I do think that there is a huge role that genetics plays in all of this that, you know, for a lot of politically correct reasons, you know, people don't want to talk about.
01:33:08.000Like where your ancestors came from decided, were they, Did they have the cannabis plant even in the environment?
01:33:13.000Like, I was gonna see this with lactose intolerance, for example.
01:33:15.000Okay, like I was on the Boonies skate podcast, I don't know if it's live yet.
01:33:19.000Uh, Cody McIntyre, Richie Jackson, um, it was awesome.
01:33:23.000Brandon Miner and Andros, anyway, Richie doesn't smoke pot, he's very much against it.
01:33:28.000But I think it's just speaking to what you said because it's the same conversation we had that his ancestors probably didn't smoke it or, or likely maybe didn't.
01:33:35.000I don't know how to find out, but and some did, man.
01:33:38.000It I didn't touch it till I was 23, but it locked in with me.
01:33:41.000Like it took me to another level of quality, of value.
01:34:05.000The hypersensitivity allowed me to like sense God, for instance, I think.
01:34:11.000But it maybe doesn't do that for everybody.
01:34:13.000And some people aren't using it for inspiration.
01:34:15.000I think a big problem is a lot of people just use it like any other pharmaceutical.
01:34:20.000If they have like anxiety or if they're having panic attacks or they're having issues with insomnia, that's just like an easy thing to reach for now.
01:34:26.000It's just like another sort of chemical thing to soothe it.
01:34:31.000And it ends up making them worse over time.
01:34:35.000And rather than go all the way back to the beginning, since we're already right here, I want to go because we actually have a ton of super chats about weed, drugs, all the rest of it.
01:35:32.000I mean, I don't know about that study.
01:35:36.000And I think there's always this argument that, hey, would you rather people be on fentanyl and morphine for their pain or be smoking cannabis?
01:35:44.000I think it's a fair argument for chronic pain.
01:35:48.000I mean, we are kind of moving like that.
01:35:50.000There's always these like little niche scenarios about, hey, you know, what about the person with pain?
01:35:55.000The issue that I have is that there's a big cannabis industry now that is essentially just like pushing it to everyone, young kids, essentially saying it's safe and it's legal and everyone thinks it's not a big deal.
01:36:08.000I do think you can do that calculus and just say, hey, do we want to use cannabis instead of fentanyl and opiates?
01:36:14.000You know, is that a better long term trade off?
01:36:15.000I think that's totally fair, but yeah, but it's become a bigger issue than that.
01:36:52.000I mean, you know, when you look at the stats for alcohol, there's a lot more like violence, domestic violence, things like that, you know, car accidents.
01:37:01.000Cannabis is just causing different problems.
01:37:03.000I mean, so, I mean, if you care about brain health, psychosis, mania, mood instability, all of that, I mean, I think you can care about both of them.
01:37:11.000I don't think you need to pin them one against another.
01:37:13.000I think both need to be used carefully and safely.
01:38:24.000Your brain is still maturing up until age 30.
01:38:26.000I mean, so it goes through this long maturation and you see way less psychiatric side effects after that.
01:38:33.000And so just educating, taxing them, using that to push into education.
01:38:39.000You know, making sure that they have lower concentrations of THC that are, you know, more like what people used to smoke, you know, pre 2010.
01:38:47.000You were talking about how, you know, the different strains are, there's like the lower THC content or whatever.
01:38:54.000And with alcohol, you can buy a bottle of wine and it's like relatively lower alcohol content, or you can buy whiskey or you can buy like Everclear or whatever that's like crazy high concentration of alcohol.
01:39:05.000It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense that you can only buy it.
01:41:01.000Yeah, I think her dad probably was right.
01:41:04.000Her social media doesn't look too hot.
01:41:06.000And so I look at all of this stuff, like, what are the chances that all of these celebrities are just developing bipolar disorder, mania, psychosis, ending up on conservatorship?
01:41:56.000So, I mean, I would say cannabis, my talk about cannabis is probably the most unpopular talk that I have, you know, in terms of like people in the super chat.
01:42:07.000The second most unpopular talk I have is when I talk about caffeine and nicotine, because especially when I come on conservative shows, you guys love your nicotine products.
01:42:54.000So a lot of people, a lot of men will get hooked on Benzos.
01:42:58.000Again, this is what I do in my clinic, I take people off sedatives.
01:43:02.000And the stories that I get is you have someone who, really busy guy, maybe a little bit type A, doing a lot of work, drinks a cup of coffee in the morning, maybe has another one in the middle of the day, may use some nicotine products as well.
01:43:17.000They do that for a little while, and then they start to say, I can't sleep.
01:43:21.000I wake up in the middle of the night at 2, 3 a.m., and as much as I'd like to go back to sleep, I just can't.
01:43:29.000And so it starts like that, and then eventually they have difficulty getting to sleep, and they go, You know, what is this all about?
01:43:36.000And then they run and they see the doctor, and then they end up getting put on a sedative, which they then become addicted to because the doctor should have said, Hey, well, where did this insomnia come from?
01:43:46.000So here's where the caffeine and the nicotine come in, especially in the US where we are really busy.
01:43:52.000We push ourselves a lot, it's just in our culture.
01:43:58.000And what happens is you eventually, if you do that all the time, you wire your brain to be in a state essentially of hyper arousal.
01:44:07.000I mean, you're constantly kind of either working, focusing, doing things.
01:44:12.000You know, that's what we do in a very competitive society.
01:44:15.000But when you layer on the stimulants on top of that, it makes it even worse.
01:44:19.000And if you're constantly in that state, just pounding energy drinks, drinking nicotine, working behind a computer, stimulating yourself, you stop shifting into a space of calm, of low arousal.
01:44:30.000And you need to be able to shift into that state of low arousal to have deep sleep.
01:44:41.000This is why people get panic attacks and they end up on antidepressants and things like this.
01:44:44.000This is why people feel tense and agitated.
01:44:47.000They're just so in this hyper aroused state all the time that they can't shift down.
01:44:52.000And so, yeah, just this busyness and this stimulation.
01:44:55.000I actually think it's like the common root cause of a lot of anxiety where people get burnt out, they stop sleeping, and then they become depressed.
01:45:03.000And so that's where the caffeine and the nicotine come into it.
01:45:07.000I don't think it's a good thing for people to be using a lot of this.
01:45:10.000I mean, if you do it, I think like a cup of coffee in the morning is fine.
01:45:17.000And yeah, so I do think it leads to this big.
01:45:21.000Well, you know, I actually, you know, I hear what you're saying.
01:45:24.000And in fact, You know, when you get start getting these patients in, I have another.
01:45:28.000I mean, I'm not licensed, but you know, if you have people that are having trouble getting sleep, another possible prescription could be a brand new MyPillow at mypillow.com, promo code POSO for ladies and gentlemen, the best night's sleep in the whole wide world.
01:46:38.000I just wanted to mention to Dr. Joseph that this is something that I used to talk to Charlie Kirk about a lot.
01:46:48.000And he was completely off of caffeine.
01:46:52.000And I, you know, people know those, you know, he was not the Starbucks cups was not, yeah, it was Mint Magic Tea and two honeys.
01:47:00.000And that, You know, no, you know, that was the most caffeine he would have was tea.
01:47:05.000There was not coffee in those Starbucks cups.
01:47:07.000And he even said to me once that he is super into biohacking.
01:47:13.000That if he wrote another book, that he wanted to write a book about sleep and just the importance of sleep and how we do, you know, to everything that you're saying.
01:47:22.000Because his last book ended up being this book about rest and taking just one day a week where you cut off social media.
01:47:31.000And then, but he went into, There's more to it than it's stopping the name of God, but it's more to it than just the spiritual elements.
01:47:38.000He gets into a lot of the physical and psychological elements as well.
01:47:44.000And he even said to me once that he would want to do an entire book just about the importance of sleep and how we totally discount that.
01:47:51.000And the stimulation of looking at a screen, I don't know if you guys feel it, but if I ever like wake up in the night, if I look at this damn thing, I'm like, I got 15 minutes, I got to like rest again.
01:48:11.000I mean, that's like pretty regulated, where there's like, you know, you can buy, like, I can't remember what, it's been a while since I've smoked cigarettes, but I know you can.
01:48:18.000Pick like the different strengths on the boxes, yeah, you get them, but um, and so I still think it's fairly standardized.
01:48:24.000Um, but but in general, people are using nicotine products more, they are because they've become incredibly popular in conservative media, uh, in tech circles, in finance.
01:48:34.000Like, there's um, I think, I think we would, yeah, we were talking about this on the way here, yeah, we were talking about this on the way here, um, um, and about that.
01:48:42.000I mean, a lot of people are saying that there's like health benefits, and they'll, you know, they'll find some like stave off dementia or something like that.
01:48:49.000Yeah, they'll find like some study that found a relationship and then they'll just like go to town and people love it because it's like a great justification.
01:48:56.000Oh, you know, maybe there's a health benefit to this.
01:48:59.000But I mean, overall, I mean, my philosophy is like people end up using, you know, caffeine or nicotine or cannabis.
01:49:07.000They usually for a reason, you know, you have this feeling like I feel flat.
01:49:20.000I can talk about this problem so well because I had this problem because I used to drink it.
01:49:23.000Heaps of coffee and use nicotine products.
01:49:27.000But the question that you really need to be asking yourself is like, well, why do I have that problem?
01:49:32.000You know, why is it that I'm having difficulty focusing?
01:49:35.000You know, what, you know, is it the fact that I'm not sleeping?
01:49:38.000You know, is it the fact that I never rest?
01:49:39.000Is it the fact that, you know, I have a really busy work schedule and then when I have a break, you know, I just pull out my phone and just like bombard my eyes with like dopamine and bright lights so I never shift into a state of rest and then kind of like there all the time.
01:49:55.000I mean, And so, you know, in a big meta way, you know, the caffeine, the nicotine, the cannabis, and also the psychiatric drug stuff that I do, it's all the same problem.
01:50:06.000And before people reach for any kind of chemical to help themselves, like the doctor or the therapist or the professional, whoever it is, needs to really audit their life and just be like, hey, let's talk about what your life looks like that leads you to become so dependent and so craving of these things.
01:50:21.000This is something that came up on the pre show, the Discord show.
01:50:23.000I'd like to go to the next super chat too, but is it RFK is now leading a charge to pay doctors to de prescribe?
01:50:45.000There's billing codes to do that work, and there never was billing codes before.
01:50:49.000It was just, you know, the economics of how mental health care works in the US is essentially that doctors, to make ends meet, really have to see four people in an hour.
01:51:34.000And essentially, you have to see four patients in an hour to make ends meet.
01:51:38.000And so that's why now doctors have panels of 2,000 people because, you know, when you're seeing four people an hour, just to fill it up, you have to have a huge panel.
01:51:48.000Now, for something like mental health, that's complicated where you actually need to understand someone's relationships, you know, their work, their meaning and purpose, their health, the substances that they're using, you know, you can't understand that when you're looking after 2,000 people.
01:52:13.000And so what happens, Libby, is essentially you go and you see a doctor for seven minutes of FaceTime and they say, hey, fill out this nine question questionnaire thing here.
01:52:26.000Okay, you have depression, take this medication.
01:52:29.000And so that's why we have a overprescribing epidemic because that's all you can do in the limited time.
01:52:36.000And Ian, what happened with Bobby recently was that there was never any billing codes to Do additional work to help people come off these medications.
01:52:45.000And so now he's sort of smoothing that out.
01:52:47.000And so something that takes more time to do than like just putting someone on a drug or prescribing a higher dose.
01:52:54.000What do you mean there's billing codes to take people off?
01:52:58.000Like you can, so when you're doing this work, you know, say there's some, you know, phone calls with respect to, you know, drug tapering or lowering the doses, you can now get reimbursed for that.
01:53:49.000I saw you highlight, I know I was gonna go to it.
01:53:51.000I don't know how it started, but uh, you know, this is people keep coming in.
01:53:55.000Wait a minute, actually, there are more.
01:53:57.000I think we have another one more babies, yeah.
01:54:00.000William Blackburn, in keeping with tradition, sending this message from my hospital after I think he means after my wife gave birth to our first child mere hours ago.
01:54:11.000Macy, with a more loyal and loving companion, has no man been so blessed as I?
01:55:40.000I don't remember any kind of buffet, but they do have a whole museum built into the original restaurant.
01:55:45.000They got Colonel Sanders' suit, and they've got the original kitchen they used to make the original fried chicken in, and it's a whole thing.
01:56:07.000They used to play style during the 80s and 90s, just randomly splattered around the country.
01:56:12.000Well, again, it just wasn't as familiar, but had to shout out that since the first time I've been here, since the announcement came back, I think 80 Pizza Huts are now going to Pizza Hut Classic.
01:56:25.000And as you guys may recall, I've been ranting and raving about Pizza Hut nationalism here on my show.
01:56:33.000And then every time I come on this show for like five years now, it's become like an issue of importance for you.
01:56:40.000Because it was in the COVID era, and I remember, and I had kids, and I said, You know, I want to take my kids to Pizza Hut and just have that, you know, memory and that experience that I had.
01:56:54.000And this Pizza Hut, and it, man, it went so viral when I tweeted this out.
01:56:59.000This thing was just a Pizza Hut and a Taco Bell mix.
01:57:02.000It was, no, this one was like falling apart.
01:57:04.000They, it was, so it had been reduced to, you could tell it was a formerly fully functioning Pizza Hut with, You know, the lights and video games and tables and all the rest of it.
01:57:14.000But now it was basically just a DoorDash outlet and Uber Eats outlet.
01:57:18.000And so you would see the drivers come in.
01:57:20.000And so I walked in and said, Oh, no, we want to eat here.
01:57:22.000And, you know, everyone was sort of looking at us like, Eat in the restaurant?
01:57:50.000And I tweeted about it, and it just started this whole internet phenomenon that went far beyond me that people kept saying, Yeah, why don't we have things like this anymore?
01:58:02.000And sort of like mid level, comfortable family restaurant where you could go in and it's got like an interesting atmosphere.
01:58:07.000I used to go to Pizza Huts with my family when I was a kid.
01:58:17.000If it was this card, it was like a circular card that you would get, and then you had to, and you got stickers for reading, I think it was five, right?
01:58:40.000Read your next book while you're sitting there.
01:58:42.000Hey, if they could convert Pizza Hut and upgrade it to do like the finest artisanal dough with just delicious homemade sauce, because that high fructose crap out of my face.
01:58:51.000But, like, it's a brand that's primed for delicious, phenomenal, mind bending pizza.
01:58:56.000No, and it's something where, too, that people have said, like, oh, well, America has, you know, is having fewer kids.
01:59:04.000Americans are having fewer kids, and people are working harder, et cetera.
01:59:08.000But I think that, you know, as we move towards, and hopefully, you know, part of what I do, what Libby, what you're talking about, hopefully, what all of us are talking about, we want to go back to that family friendly country that America used to be.
01:59:22.000That you have to create the conditions for a pro family environment as well.
01:59:29.000And so, Pizza Hut nationalism, it's not about, you know, it's not about Pizza Hut, right?
01:59:46.000They said, well, we don't make money off of that, you know?
01:59:48.000But I can remember, I can remember going to those and, you know, my mom with my brother and my mom would get, you know, some Happy Meals and we'd run around like crazy.
01:59:58.000And then she could just get, Relax, you know, whatever.
02:00:01.000And then we go back, and it was great.
02:00:18.000But for folks who haven't gone to the subscriber side and want to hear about it, this is going to be a good one because Libby, are we doing it?
02:08:04.000So, Chud the Builder is a white man, um, end time story who, yeah, it is.
02:08:13.000Uh, his name is Dalton Etherly, uh, live streamer, and he is known as.
02:08:22.000And this is just a CNN article, you know.
02:08:24.000So, of course, it's, you know, it's going to be, you know, very anti that he, okay, okay, known as a popular live streamer and notorious and someone who's known for posting quote unquote racist content.
02:08:37.000And wow, it just really gets into this.
02:08:42.000It's like a, okay, this article is stupid.
02:08:44.000This article, yeah, yeah, this article is terrible.
02:08:47.000He's, I'll just say it, he's kind of known for this.
02:08:49.000He's kind of known for going up to people on TikTok and, Um, and you know, specifically black people, and saying the n word and then filming their reaction like that's kind of the I mean, we could play that's that's kind of this.
02:09:08.000This is Wikipedia, which of course is you know going to be terrible.
02:10:32.000Etherly was arrested and charged with attempted murder, employing a firearm, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, as Bailey said at $1.25 million.
02:10:39.000Following the live stream, Etherly live streamed himself talking with first responders, during which he claimed.
02:10:46.000That he had been assaulted by Fox and acted in self defense.
02:11:12.000And so, the real question here, and With just as with any of these cases, though, goes into you know, and this isn't about his conduct in terms of his, um, you know, his online postings.
02:11:30.000I personally don't like that kind of content where you're just going up to someone and provoking them.
02:11:34.000I think it's a little much and then filming the reaction, regardless of what you're saying.
02:11:38.000Yeah, I just don't like that kind of content.