Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - DOJ Indicts Russians For Funding US Company, Tenet Media Alleged w-Anthony Constantino | Timcast IRLDOJ Indicts Russians For Funding US Company, Tenet Media Alleged w-Anthony Constantino | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Man, I guess this is Tim Week in the news because I'm just in the news all the time.

00:00:23.000 Now, admittedly, it wasn't my fault that the Harris campaign accused me of calling for what is tantamount to a genocide of Democrats.

00:00:30.000 That's a lie, by the way.

00:00:31.000 And we are currently in the process of drafting our formal complaint.

00:00:36.000 We will be filing a lawsuit.

00:00:38.000 But now news broke the DOJ Said that RT employees were covertly funding a U.S.

00:00:45.000 company publishing thousands of videos in furtherance of Russian interests, and it is presumed that company is Tenet Media.

00:00:54.000 For those who aren't familiar, this is a new media company, and we licensed one of our shows, Culture War, to them.

00:01:01.000 And now I'm getting hit up by like everybody in the media.

00:01:04.000 They're emailing me and they're tweeting at me and sending me DMs being like, what's going on with this?

00:01:09.000 Well, I'll make clear immediately in the start of the show.

00:01:12.000 Did you read the indictment?

00:01:13.000 It clearly says that I as well as the other personalities were victims.

00:01:17.000 We were deceived by people intentionally to trick us into licensing our content to them.

00:01:22.000 I will add, I have a statement about this, which, you know, we'll launch the full segment, but we never produced anything for them.

00:01:29.000 We had an existing show that was already in production that they licensed distribution for, which meant that the show that we already produced appeared on their network.

00:01:37.000 That was the gist of the deal.

00:01:41.000 There's no one from their company involved with ours.

00:01:43.000 Their company paid a license fee to broadcast a show that we produce, that we run, that our employees are involved with, and they have nothing to do with.

00:01:50.000 I don't know what... I mean, like, politically, you're gonna see a bunch of Democrats making claims and all this other stuff.

00:01:55.000 I can't speak for anybody else involved in the company, because I don't know what they do, or what their jobs are, or anything like that.

00:02:00.000 I can just tell you plainly, Culture War existed well before the license agreement.

00:02:04.000 It will exist well after the license agreement, and they licensed it for a set period, and that meant that the show appeared on their channel.

00:02:10.000 That's it.

00:02:11.000 Like any other show appearing on any other network, we produce it on our own.

00:02:15.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:02:16.000 And admittedly, it's a slow news day.

00:02:18.000 I guess that's why people are talking about me and Benny Johnson, you know, Dave Rubin, all that stuff.

00:02:22.000 And I like those guys.

00:02:24.000 So we'll defend them as well, because this is BS.

00:02:26.000 But we do have statements from them.

00:02:28.000 But we'll talk about a couple of the other stories.

00:02:30.000 Liz Cheney's endorsing Kamala Harris.

00:02:33.000 Not surprising.

00:02:34.000 And the entire Waltz family is endorsing Trump.

00:02:37.000 Which is kind of weird, but sure.

00:02:40.000 Not like Tim Waltz's kids, but just like his extended family.

00:02:43.000 So we'll talk about all that.

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00:03:26.000 I am currently waiting on the next moves from our legal team, which should be coming very, very soon.

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00:03:47.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Anthony Constantino.

00:03:51.000 Happy to be here.

00:03:52.000 Who are you?

00:03:52.000 What do you do?

00:03:53.000 I got a company called Sticker Mule, and I made waves a few weeks ago for apparently you can't say that it's not nice to hate Trump supporters, so I sent a thing out telling our customers, you know, people need to stop hating Trump supporters.

00:04:04.000 Apparently you can't say that, and it ended up becoming a big thing.

00:04:07.000 I ended up being the talk of the town, particularly on Threads.

00:04:09.000 I told everyone Threads became the Mark Zuckerberg's website, which he made to Mess up X or whatever, but I became the talk of the town on Threads.

00:04:17.000 Became the Sticker Mill fan club for a week and also talked about all over the internet, YouTube, YouTube rails and all this other stuff.

00:04:24.000 So Sticker Mill is a huge company.

00:04:28.000 1,200 people, 39 countries.

00:04:30.000 Wow.

00:04:31.000 I live in Mexico, so yeah.

00:04:33.000 And then you just endorsed Trump.

00:04:35.000 Uh, you know, more so than that, I just came out and said the hate for a supporter's gotta stop, you know?

00:04:38.000 Oh, right on.

00:04:39.000 Yeah.

00:04:40.000 Oh, okay, right on.

00:04:40.000 Well, thanks for coming.

00:04:41.000 This should be interesting.

00:04:42.000 We'll hear all about that story.

00:04:43.000 Hi, everyone.

00:04:43.000 We got Ian hanging out.

00:04:44.000 Uh, good to be here.

00:04:45.000 I've been streaming hard during the days, so check me out on my YouTube channels and stuff.

00:04:49.000 I've been doing a lot of Diablo 4 and talking philosophy.

00:04:52.000 It's been exhilarating.

00:04:54.000 I just did a, uh...

00:04:55.000 Doing daily covers songs.

00:04:56.000 I think I did Brain Stew by Green Day Today.

00:04:59.000 It's really, that's a good one.

00:05:00.000 And if you need, when you're moving around, you can take this mic around with you so it's always tight to your face.

00:05:05.000 It makes it a lot easier.

00:05:06.000 Good to see you, dude.

00:05:08.000 Thank you.

00:05:08.000 Let's get into it.

00:05:09.000 It's good to have you here.

00:05:09.000 I'm glad you could join us.

00:05:11.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.

00:05:11.000 I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Skinner News.

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00:05:15.000 Let's get started.

00:05:16.000 Here we go!

00:05:17.000 From the post-millennial, DOJ indicts two RT media-affiliated Russians, accuses them of laundering $10 million to conservative company Tenet Media to sow division in U.S.

00:05:29.000 The DOJ alleged that the two concocted a scheme to create and distribute content to U.S.

00:05:34.000 audiences with hidden Russian government messaging.

00:05:36.000 Well, let me just take the word of the DOJ straight from the DOJ website.

00:05:40.000 I'll issue some clarification.

00:05:41.000 I have a statement on this, which I will read for you in a second.

00:05:45.000 When I first learned of this story, literally, I'm skateboarding, and I get a DM from a journalist asking if I would talk about the Russian allegations or whatever, and I was like, what?

00:05:55.000 I was like, what allegations?

00:05:56.000 And then they sent me a tweet, and I'm like, I ain't reading that.

00:05:58.000 Like, I'm sorry this happened to you or whatever.

00:06:01.000 And then he said something.

00:06:04.000 I'm like, dude, I have literally no idea what you're talking about.

00:06:06.000 And so then I get some calls after a conversation with a few people.

00:06:11.000 I was like, all right, I'll put out a statement.

00:06:13.000 And I thought it was a leaked indictment.

00:06:14.000 I didn't realize the DOJ actually did a press conference on all this stuff.

00:06:17.000 So then when I, I just, I just corrected and changed it.

00:06:20.000 And so let me, let me read this for you and then we'll give the context as to what this means for us and for you.

00:06:26.000 I will stress that this literally has nothing to do with Timcast Media in any way.

00:06:31.000 I want to make sure that's very, very clear.

00:06:33.000 The Culture War podcast is a separate company that produces The Culture War, and it licensed a show to Tenet, and that was it.

00:06:41.000 There's no direct connection between this and TimCast.

00:06:45.000 They say two RT employees indicted for covertly funding and directing a U.S.

00:06:49.000 company that published thousands of videos and furtherance of Russian interests.

00:06:52.000 They say an indictment charging Russian nationals Konstantin Kalishnikov, 31, also known as Kostya, and Elena Afanasyeva, 27, also known as Lena, with conspiracy to violate the Foreign Agents Registration Act and conspiracy to commit money laundering, was unsealed today in the Southern District of New York.

00:07:10.000 They're both at large.

00:07:11.000 Were these people in America?

00:07:13.000 The Justice Department has charged two employees of RT, a Russian state-controlled media outlet, in a $10 million scheme to create and distribute content to U.S.

00:07:20.000 audiences with hidden Russian government messaging.

00:07:23.000 Said Merrick Garland, the Justice Department will not tolerate attempts by an authoritarian regime to exploit our country's free exchange of ideas in order to covertly further its own propaganda efforts, and our investigation into this matter remains ongoing.

00:07:35.000 Our approach to combating foreign malign influence is actor-driven, exposing the hidden hand of adversaries pulling strings of influence from behind the curtain," said Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco.

00:07:45.000 As alleged in today's indictment, Russian state broadcaster RT and its employees, including the charged defendants, co-opted online commentators by funneling them nearly $10 million to pro-Russia propaganda and disinformation across social media to U.S.

00:07:59.000 audiences.

00:08:00.000 The department will not tolerate foreign efforts to illegally manipulate American public opinion 0.77

00:08:04.000 by sowing discord and division.

00:08:05.000 COVID attempts to sow division and trick Americans into unwittingly consuming foreign propaganda

00:08:10.000 represents attacks on our democracy, said Christopher Wray.

00:08:13.000 Today's actions show that as long as foreign adversaries like Russia keep engaging in hostile

00:08:17.000 influence campaigns, they are going to keep running into the FBI.

00:08:21.000 We'll continue to do everything we can to expose the hidden hand of foreign adversaries

00:08:24.000 like Russia and disrupt their efforts to meddle in our free and open society. 0.85

00:08:28.000 The Russian government has long sought to sow discord and chaos in the United States through propaganda and foreign-aligned influence campaigns.

00:08:34.000 Okay, they're just repeating themselves.

00:08:36.000 I will say this again.

00:08:37.000 These are charges.

00:08:38.000 It's an indictment.

00:08:39.000 They're allegations not yet proven true.

00:08:41.000 I have not spoken to any of the people involved in running Tenet, so I don't know what is going on with that company.

00:08:53.000 They deposit nearly $10 million to covertly fund its and direct a Tennessee-based online content creation company.

00:09:00.000 In turn, U.S.

00:09:00.000 company One published English-language videos on multiple social media channels, including TikTok, Instagram, Axe, and YouTube.

00:09:06.000 Since publicly launching in or about November 2023, they've posted nearly 2,000 videos and have garnered more than 16 million views on YouTube alone.

00:09:13.000 Many of the videos posted by U.S.

00:09:15.000 Company One contain commentary on events and issues in the U.S.

00:09:17.000 such as immigration, inflation, and other topics related to domestic and foreign policy.

00:09:21.000 While the views expressed in those videos are not uniform, most are directed to the publicly stated goals of the government of Russia and RT to amplify domestic divisions in the United States.

00:09:30.000 I mean, that's a strong opinion, but I can't speak for the other commentators, so I don't know.

00:09:36.000 I can only speak for what we produce on The Culture War.

00:09:39.000 which is available on iTunes and Spotify.

00:09:41.000 In order to carry out RT's secret influence campaign, they say these individuals posed as outside editors at the

00:09:47.000 company and monitored the funding and hiring.

00:09:50.000 They introduced Afanasy Yeva as a member of the ported editing team

00:09:54.000 using fake personas, Helena Schroeder and Victoria Pesti.

00:09:58.000 They blah blah blah. 0.51

00:10:00.000 They say, for one example, in March 22nd, 2024, terror attack on a music venue in Moscow, Afanasyeva asked one of U.S.

00:10:08.000 company's founders to blame Ukraine and the U.S.

00:10:11.000 for the attack, writing, I think we could focus on the Ukraine-U.S.

00:10:13.000 angle.

00:10:14.000 The mainstream media spread fake news that ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack, yet ISIS itself never made such statements.

00:10:21.000 All terrorists are now detained while they were heading to the border with Ukraine.

00:10:26.000 Didn't we say that was ISIS?

00:10:28.000 We covered it.

00:10:28.000 I thought we said it was ISIS, yeah.

00:10:30.000 Yeah, we covered that story.

00:10:30.000 We said it was ISIS.

00:10:32.000 And they're arguing that Tenet was saying it was Ukraine or something?

00:10:34.000 This is what the terrorist attack on October 7th.

00:10:36.000 I'm pretty sure we called it ISIS, and we were like, oh wow.

00:10:38.000 I thought we talked about the spread of Islamic extremism in Europe, but... Which also is... Anyway, so they go on to mention that $9.7 million was...

00:10:51.000 was sent.

00:10:52.000 The document names a few people, but they do this thing where they don't name the person.

00:10:58.000 But if you're fans of The Simpsons, then you'll remember that episode where they said, it's Principal Skinner, and he's like, a certain person has complained, we'll call her Lisa S. No, that's not good enough.

00:11:10.000 We'll say Elle Simpson.

00:11:11.000 Yeah.

00:11:11.000 And so everybody knows her.

00:11:13.000 So when they go in this document, and they basically say, like, here's a person, here's how many subscribers they have.

00:11:17.000 And here's the show they produce, but we're not saying their name.

00:11:20.000 You get I don't know what they're doing and why.

00:11:21.000 So I got a statement for you guys.

00:11:23.000 I said my statement regarding the DOJ indictment.

00:11:25.000 Should these allegations prove true, I as well as other personalities and commentators

00:11:28.000 were deceived and are victims.

00:11:30.000 I cannot speak for anyone else in the company as to what they do or what they are instructed.

00:11:34.000 The Culture War podcast was licensed by Tenet Media.

00:11:36.000 It existed well before any license agreement with Tenet.

00:11:39.000 It will continue to exist after any such agreement expires.

00:11:42.000 The only change of the agreement was that the location of the live broadcast moved to

00:11:45.000 Tenet's YouTube channel.

00:11:46.000 I, in The Culture War, never produced content, any content, for Tenet Media.

00:11:50.000 And I want to clarify that, too, because I got community noted on this thing.

00:11:54.000 We didn't take orders, instruction, or editorial guidance in any way.

00:11:58.000 The only thing that we had was, we produce The Culture War Friday mornings at 10 a.m.

00:12:02.000 You can go to youtube.com slash Timcast.

00:12:04.000 That's where it is.

00:12:05.000 But the core broadcast of the show moved from that channel to Tenet as part of a licensing agreement.

00:12:11.000 So like, if, I don't know, say...

00:12:16.000 CBS or some major network said, hey, we want to put TimCast IRL also on our channel at the same time slot.

00:12:21.000 I'd be like, sure, whatever, pay us a fee.

00:12:22.000 I wouldn't know what they were doing.

00:12:23.000 I wouldn't know what commercials they were running.

00:12:24.000 I don't know what they're saying.

00:12:26.000 And so that's basically what we did.

00:12:27.000 Now considering this, and I don't know what is true or not.

00:12:31.000 I think what is likely going to happen is that the show is just going to revert back to the same exact show that it always was, and it's going to be on YouTube.com slash Timcast as we do.

00:12:40.000 That's the only thing I can really say, I don't know.

00:12:42.000 Let me read more.

00:12:43.000 Never at any point did anyone other than I have full editorial control of the show, and its contents of the show are often apolitical.

00:12:49.000 Examples include discussing spirituality, dating, and video games.

00:12:53.000 In fact, we had one episode called, Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?

00:12:56.000 Or is it Elon Musk?

00:12:57.000 Which is literally when we brought on these dudes who think Donald Trump is the Antichrist.

00:13:00.000 I don't know.

00:13:01.000 Drew Tang was one of them, I think.

00:13:02.000 I wasn't around for that yet.

00:13:04.000 Drew.

00:13:04.000 I say the show is produced in its entirety by our local team without input from anyone external to the company.

00:13:09.000 The Culture War is a separate company not associated with TimCast.com or other properties.

00:13:12.000 It exists solely for the production of the Culture War podcast.

00:13:15.000 That being said, we still do not know what is true.

00:13:17.000 These are only allegations. 1.00

00:13:18.000 Putin is a scumbag. 1.00

00:13:19.000 Russia sucks donkey balls. 1.00

00:13:21.000 And to the journalists who wish to jump the gun, create their own narrative, or lie about what is currently going on, you can eat my Irish ass. 1.00

00:13:26.000 And I will stress, I am Irish. 0.99

00:13:28.000 Just because I'm also Korean doesn't mean I'm not Irish.

00:13:31.000 Is that what your community voted on?

00:13:32.000 They were like, Tim Pool is not, in fact, Irish?

00:13:34.000 Well, I had people tweeting at me like, you're Irish now?

00:13:36.000 I'm more Irish than I am Korean!

00:13:37.000 Come on! 0.61

00:13:38.000 Geez.

00:13:39.000 Anyway, Dave Rubin issued a statement.

00:13:42.000 He says, statement on the DOJ indictment, these allegations clearly show that I and

00:13:45.000 other commentators were the victims of this scheme.

00:13:48.000 I knew absolutely nothing about any of this fraudulent activity, period.

00:13:51.000 People of the internet was a silly show covering viral videos, which ended four months ago.

00:13:55.000 The DOJ has never contacted me regarding this matter, and I have no intention to comment

00:13:59.000 further.

00:14:00.000 This screenshot directly from the indictment speaks for itself.

00:14:02.000 Well, you know, for me, you know, I'll say what I can, I suppose, but the issue really

00:14:07.000 is we cover the big stories of the day, and this seems to be the one that's trending and

00:14:10.000 popping up all over all over X. But in the indictment it clearly points out...

00:14:14.000 They say that Kalichnikov, Afanasyeva, I can't pronounce that, Founder 1 and Founder 2 worked together to mask U.S. 0.88

00:14:20.000 Company's true source of funding by falsely portraying to Commentator 1 and 2 that U.S.

00:14:25.000 Company 1 was sponsored by a private investor named Edward Gregorian.

00:14:29.000 In truth, in fact, Gregorian was a fictional persona.

00:14:32.000 For example, during contract negotiations, Commentator 1 requested that Founder 1 provide a profile or article on Gregorian.

00:14:38.000 In response, Founder 1 sent Commentator 1 a one-page profile provided to Founder 1 by other fictional persona.

00:14:43.000 Proporting to represent Gregorian, falsely describing Gregorian, I guess.

00:14:49.000 I mean, so the DOJ is alleging that some of these personalities, I guess, is Dave, what is this, is Dave, what is this, a screen shot?

00:14:58.000 Speaks for itself, right.

00:14:59.000 So you can infer, there's a list of commentators that are included in it.

00:15:04.000 And it clearly shows that the indictment's allegation—I don't know if it's true—is that the founders intentionally sought to deceive the people who were involved as talent for the company.

00:15:17.000 That's about it.

00:15:17.000 I don't know what else to say about it other than welcome to the 2024 news cycle.

00:15:22.000 I warned you all last year it was going to get absolutely crazy, and it's only just begun.

00:15:26.000 So once again, I am suing Kamala Harris for defamation.

00:15:29.000 Our legal team is working on it.

00:15:31.000 I've got updates.

00:15:31.000 We've got big news that's coming very soon.

00:15:34.000 And then this.

00:15:35.000 So I hope you're all enjoying yourselves.

00:15:37.000 Buckle up. 0.96

00:15:38.000 It's not close to being done yet.

00:15:39.000 It sounded like these two Russian people used fake names when they joined Tenet, when they came to Tenet.

00:15:46.000 Was that what that indictment said?

00:15:47.000 That's what the DOJ says, yes.

00:15:48.000 So it sounds like Tenet's getting, got defrauded by these two people as well.

00:15:53.000 There's other things in the indictment that accuse the founders of apparently being aware of what was really going on.

00:15:59.000 The founders of Tenet.

00:16:00.000 Well, it says right there in the indictment, I just read this for you, it says that Founder 1, 2, and the two defendants worked together to mask the true source of their funding and tried to deceive commentators.

00:16:11.000 Okay.

00:16:14.000 There's, you know, for obvious reasons I can only say so much, but I can just stress the point.

00:16:20.000 Culture War is gonna be live this Friday morning at 10 a.m.

00:16:24.000 and we're gonna be discussing, I think, movies?

00:16:26.000 So I don't know, you know, I love the... What is this?

00:16:31.000 Look on the right.

00:16:32.000 Scandal!

00:16:32.000 DOJ claims Benny Johnson and Lauren Chen are Russian agents with Natalie Winters.

00:16:38.000 They claim that?

00:16:39.000 Well, scandal is a question mark.

00:16:41.000 Yeah, that's actually not true.

00:16:42.000 They claim Benny Johnson was a victim.

00:16:45.000 But, you know, it's all over X or whatever, and everyone's talking about it.

00:16:50.000 I just think it's funny that they're like, it pushed Russian interests, and I'm just like, our show will be live on Friday, and we're talking about movies, I think. 0.91

00:16:57.000 We're talking about movie production this time.

00:17:00.000 So, whatever.

00:17:01.000 Man, it's a very sensitive period of human history.

00:17:04.000 We were talking a little bit about the show, like the world order, the shifting of the world order.

00:17:07.000 They want to evolve the liberal economic order into a new world order that's more viable, I don't know, that's more synergistic with the way we live, that's not BRICS because the BRICS alliance looks like a counter-imposing order.

00:17:21.000 And like, how is that happening?

00:17:22.000 And are people getting caught up in the psychological warfare?

00:17:27.000 Obviously, if people are coming in with fake money and defrauding companies and YouTube creators.

00:17:33.000 I think it's kind of more interesting, and I'm not suggesting anything nefarious from the DOJ, but, you know, today is the first time Tim Walz is doing his solo appearances, two of them in Pennsylvania.

00:17:45.000 Kamala Harris is up in New Hampshire talking about how she's going to help small businesses.

00:17:49.000 And then we're like, hey, it's kind of a slow news day, except for this thing.

00:17:52.000 Like, why is the press during the election cycle taking this off day, not covering what these two Democrats are talking about?

00:17:59.000 Instead, the DOJ has released, it's not just this, the DOJ has a ton of Of things that have come out today.

00:18:04.000 And it's interesting to me that, you know, maybe it's coincidental, but also that the news media seems to have taken a pause, waited for these to come out, and then this happens to be the one that's getting big on X. Probably.

00:18:14.000 I think the funny thing is that like Dave Rubin was posting clips of just like a guy buying stuff at Taco Bell and getting mad.

00:18:22.000 Like apparently his show was him just commenting on nonsense.

00:18:27.000 It's just, like, the weirdest thing.

00:18:29.000 Like, they were pushing Russian-aligned misinformation.

00:18:32.000 It's like, I think his show was, like, a woman would be in a viral video throwing quarters at somebody, and they'd be like, what are these people doing?

00:18:39.000 I wonder if there was, like, a message that got sent, just one or two, that's like, well, what if you did a show about this thing?

00:18:45.000 And that's, like, the real Russian op, is that they're like, why not just look at one of these maybe one day? 0.86

00:18:50.000 Think about it.

00:18:51.000 Well, I can tell you that never happened here.

00:18:54.000 Culture War is produced here.

00:18:57.000 We're fully independent.

00:18:59.000 We're here in Russia.

00:19:01.000 I think I talked to Lauren Chen twice this year.

00:19:04.000 She was on the show like eight months ago or something.

00:19:07.000 Oh yeah, we had her on The Culture War with Pearl Davis talking about dating. 1.00

00:19:13.000 We have a show where we talk about cultural issues.

00:19:15.000 Thank you and have a nice day, I guess.

00:19:17.000 Maybe it's a slow news day, and that's why.

00:19:19.000 But I don't know.

00:19:20.000 People are trying to hit me up like crazy, and I'm just like, dude, I got nothing for you.

00:19:24.000 I don't know what to tell you.

00:19:25.000 Does your company have a lot of investors?

00:19:26.000 Do you have to vet who comes on?

00:19:28.000 I'm the only guy.

00:19:29.000 You're solo?

00:19:30.000 That's why I get to do what I want to do.

00:19:32.000 I'm like the other guys in tech.

00:19:33.000 I'm the Lone Ranger in tech.

00:19:35.000 All these other guys that got their VC buddies that tell them what they can do and can't do.

00:19:39.000 And that was an intentional choice?

00:19:41.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

00:19:42.000 You know, I had a brief introduction to the world of VCs when we were first getting started, and yeah, you don't want to be in that world.

00:19:48.000 You just came with your own money and then hit— You know, a friend of mine invested in the company, and you know, he cut a check, and my early investor was 72 years old, so he wanted to exit, and you know, he exited on a great deal.

00:19:58.000 He's still—you know, we're still great friends, and yeah.

00:20:01.000 But I gotta admit, I'm kind of jealous of your situation.

00:20:03.000 I like working on fun things, and nothing seems more fun than—no, nothing seems more fun than suing the vice president.

00:20:09.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:20:11.000 It's not fun to have people messaging you about the Vice President accusing you of calling for the mass jailing and execution of half the country.

00:20:21.000 It's kind of a weird thing to accuse someone of wanting, especially when I'm like very ardently opposed to the death penalty.

00:20:28.000 So, you know, I suppose the thing is, like, I don't know, man.

00:20:36.000 Like, these things don't move the needle for me.

00:20:39.000 I just... I don't know.

00:20:41.000 You guys ever see Office Space?

00:20:42.000 Yeah.

00:20:42.000 Yeah, I'm like that guy.

00:20:43.000 It's such a good movie.

00:20:44.000 I'm like the main character.

00:20:45.000 What's his name?

00:20:46.000 What's the actor's name?

00:20:48.000 Rob Livingston?

00:20:50.000 Ron Livingston?

00:20:51.000 Yeah, and so like he goes to the hypnotist and then all of a sudden he doesn't care anymore and he like shows up and he's like, whatever, I don't care.

00:20:56.000 That's it.

00:20:57.000 It's like, you know, there's a lot of people freaking out about all this stuff.

00:21:00.000 I get these messages and I'm just like, I'm laughing.

00:21:02.000 I'm like, dude, I don't, I don't know what you're talking about, man.

00:21:05.000 Like obviously IRL is hot.

00:21:07.000 Culture War is fun, but rock stardom is where we're, where we're destined for.

00:21:10.000 Uh huh.

00:21:11.000 I like that that's your, like, next career move to become a rock star.

00:21:15.000 I feel like that's pretty bold.

00:21:16.000 Not everyone would go that route.

00:21:18.000 So the feds are going to show up and they're going to say, listen, you know, you're too influential and you're outside of our control.

00:21:25.000 So what's going to happen is we're going to produce an album for you.

00:21:28.000 It's going to, it's going to go double platinum.

00:21:30.000 It's going to be big, but you're going to resign from politics and you're going to quit the show.

00:21:33.000 And Ian's going to be like, done.

00:21:35.000 We'll call it the new world order.

00:21:37.000 It was so hot, dude.

00:21:38.000 Let's call it Runaway Breakdown.

00:21:41.000 That's what I really want to call the show.

00:21:42.000 Ian's going to knock on the door and they're going to be like, Mr. Crossland, how would you like to be a famous rock star?

00:21:47.000 Just quit politics.

00:21:48.000 I mean, I've never really been in politics.

00:21:50.000 The whole purpose of why I'm even here is because I care about the truth.

00:21:53.000 I want to understand what's really going on.

00:21:55.000 And so I'm drawn to understanding politics.

00:21:57.000 I don't want to mess with it that much.

00:21:59.000 But this is politics, bro.

00:22:01.000 That's the only thing.

00:22:02.000 I don't care about politics.

00:22:03.000 I didn't vote for anybody in 2016.

00:22:05.000 I care about what's true.

00:22:06.000 And the problem is we have an entire machine state of lies.

00:22:11.000 And so it's no matter where you turn, everything's a lie.

00:22:14.000 And like every government on earth is just built to lie.

00:22:16.000 It's built to maintain order through deception.

00:22:19.000 I mean, it's not fully deceptive.

00:22:21.000 There's lots of honesty in it, but it's willing to lie to maintain order.

00:22:26.000 And the crazy thing is that the quote, stop making me defend Trump trend from 2016, 17 or whatever, perfectly explains where many people ended up.

00:22:35.000 I didn't care.

00:22:36.000 I'm like, look, the political machine is crazy.

00:22:38.000 And then I'd watch Donald Trump say something on TV and I'd be like, how about that?

00:22:43.000 Then the next day I'm talking to someone and they'd be like, did you hear that Donald Trump said X?

00:22:46.000 And I'd be like, no, he didn't.

00:22:47.000 He said, why?

00:22:47.000 Why are you defending Trump?

00:22:48.000 What do you mean?

00:22:49.000 Trump literally said the opposite of that on TV.

00:22:51.000 I watched it.

00:22:52.000 Why are you lying to me?

00:22:53.000 And then they get mad at you and they attack you.

00:22:55.000 Then all of a sudden I'm like, uh, okay.

00:22:58.000 So I do this podcast and I say, Trump never said that.

00:23:00.000 He said this.

00:23:01.000 And then they're like, you're a Russian agent or whatever.

00:23:04.000 So it's, it's quite literally if you try to expose the lies, you're right wing.

00:23:09.000 I know.

00:23:10.000 And the idea of like passively allowing the structure to deceive people to maintain order is like, it feels so sickeningly dirty.

00:23:16.000 It's not order though, dude.

00:23:19.000 The Ukraine war is not order.

00:23:21.000 Like, I was listening to this interview, because Zelensky has made moves into Russia now, and there was a reporter from, I would think, a totally mainstream source.

00:23:28.000 I can't remember which one, NBC, ABC, whatever.

00:23:30.000 And he was like, so, but do you think that, like, when you did this, did you give any warning to Washington, to Biden?

00:23:37.000 And he was like, no, of course not.

00:23:39.000 You know, I have to be secret about these things.

00:23:40.000 And the mainstream American reporter is like, but Americans feel like they're funding, helping Ukraine defend themselves from Russia.

00:23:48.000 And this doesn't really seem like what you're doing now.

00:23:51.000 I think there's a lot of misconception about what's going on, and I think that there may be people who are vying for power and influence in the world, but a lot of it is just chaos, like people grabbing opportunities whenever they can.

00:24:02.000 I mean, here's the question for you guys, because I pointed this out.

00:24:04.000 I was talking to some of my friends back in 2015.

00:24:08.000 that we have cheap fuel?

00:24:11.000 Do you like that we don't export things but we get access to all these things around the world?

00:24:16.000 Basically, if you like the status quo, which includes the bombing of foreign countries, the military expansionism, wars, that declaration, Hillary Clinton's your candidate. 0.88

00:24:26.000 And you know what?

00:24:27.000 You don't gotta think twice.

00:24:28.000 You don't gotta bat an eye.

00:24:29.000 You can wake up, you can go work as a receptionist at whatever business, you can get paid your salary, and you will live under the petrodollar.

00:24:39.000 If you vote for Donald Trump, you're voting for hard work, you're voting for sacrifice, you're voting for better deals for this country, and that's gonna have a negative impact on the liberal economic order.

00:24:50.000 So the question is now, I see the Democratic establishment, the Uniparty, Liz Cheney is a part of it now too, what do Republicans mean?

00:24:58.000 Yeah, their attitude is, we will remain wealthy and in control if we go to war, we blow up anybody who opposes us.

00:25:04.000 Gaddafi?

00:25:05.000 You want to create a union?

00:25:06.000 You want to trade in gold or euro?

00:25:09.000 Hillary Clinton says, we came, we saw, he died.

00:25:11.000 Saddam Hussein?

00:25:12.000 You won't fall in line?

00:25:13.000 Same thing.

00:25:14.000 The U.S.

00:25:15.000 will go in and take out these leaders and overthrow their countries and CIA back to coups.

00:25:19.000 That is not order.

00:25:20.000 That is just military might of one faction on the planet.

00:25:24.000 I suppose the argument then is, do you, and I'll throw this to you guys, believe there's a possibility of stable global order in a multipolar world, meaning multiple powerful countries existing as superpowers competing for... I think there is.

00:25:37.000 A hundred percent, because if the United States could do it at a state level, then yeah, we stopped fighting.

00:25:42.000 At one point, we had to come together with all our differences.

00:25:45.000 The thing is, we spoke the same language.

00:25:47.000 That's a huge part of this system.

00:25:48.000 If we really want order, de facto order, we need to understand each other.

00:25:52.000 That's what produces order, is the ability to understand the person sitting next to you.

00:25:56.000 There's a natural order that arises from the understanding.

00:25:59.000 We stopped fighting, meaning like we stopped literally duking it out on the battlefield.

00:26:02.000 That's what you mean, right?

00:26:03.000 Because states fight all the time.

00:26:05.000 They fight for resources constantly.

00:26:06.000 That's one of the reasons that I hate the overarching bureaucracy of the federal government.

00:26:10.000 I mean, there's this lawsuit that the Supreme Court just weighed in on.

00:26:14.000 The federal government, the Department of Health and Human Services has said, Oklahoma, you have to, as part of your family planning resources, refer people to get abortions.

00:26:22.000 And under Oklahoma state law, they're really strict.

00:26:24.000 They really strict abortions. 1.00

00:26:25.000 And so Oklahoma doesn't want to do that.

00:26:26.000 And so now, The federal government has been like, well, fine, you can't have that money and we're going to give it to an organization in Missouri instead.

00:26:33.000 Like it's four and a half million dollars.

00:26:35.000 It's maybe not going to change every single thing in Oklahoma.

00:26:37.000 On the other hand, we still – there is still fight over resources.

00:26:41.000 So it would be difficult to think of a world where governments – they might have stronger diplomatic relationships, but they're always going to in some ways be competing over something and in that sense nothing stays just perfectly stable.

00:26:53.000 It's the difference of fighting and competing.

00:26:55.000 And we've stopped fighting.

00:26:56.000 We've started competing.

00:26:58.000 And it's the same way in sports.

00:26:59.000 As a kid, I used to be like, who are the Browns fighting next?

00:27:02.000 And my dad would be like, they're playing them, not fighting them.

00:27:06.000 The federal government funds a lot of states, so there's an incentive not to fall out of line.

00:27:11.000 I mean, there was one civil war in this country when the states didn't agree with what the federal government was doing.

00:27:15.000 I don't know.

00:27:16.000 The argument is that many people... I would say the establishment believes a multipolar world is not possible or preferable and will result in war, and at the state, the scale of technology that we're at, that war would be very bad.

00:27:16.000 I don't know.

00:27:28.000 They literally say this in the Liberal Economic Order, the Council on Foreign Relations says.

00:27:33.000 So if you look at what they're trying to do now, with the war in Ukraine, with Israel, with the Middle East, why they hate Trump is they just want military expansionist policy because they would prefer to be in charge as opposed to China or BRICS.

00:27:47.000 BRICS is winning!

00:27:49.000 They've been winning well before Trump got elected. 0.99

00:27:50.000 Trump's election was not the result of Russian disinformation or whatever garbage they want to say. 0.88

00:27:55.000 Well before Donald Trump won, Russia and China were getting off the dollar, and they're trying to back away. 0.95

00:28:00.000 And the petrodollar deal was going to expire soon with Saudi Arabia.

00:28:03.000 Trump gets in because of these failures, and the establishment can't maintain the system.

00:28:08.000 They can't.

00:28:09.000 It is going to collapse.

00:28:10.000 So in that case, and we're looking at a multipolar world regardless, or World War III, which I'd prefer not, Donald Trump's path seems to make the most sense.

00:28:18.000 Secure our borders, better trade agreements, shore up our manufacturing.

00:28:22.000 Surprise, surprise, the Democrats are starting to embrace Trump's policies.

00:28:26.000 And maybe Kamala Harris comes out and says, build a wall, and no tax on tips. 1.00

00:28:30.000 Then gets elected, brings in all the illegal immigrants, and then declares war on 50 other countries. 0.96

00:28:35.000 I have no idea.

00:28:36.000 But, you know.

00:28:38.000 Yeah, whether people want to realize it or not, he's a master negotiator.

00:28:41.000 I happen to be a decent one myself, but I think he's a bit better than me.

00:28:44.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:28:46.000 From the Daily Mail, Tim Walz's family members reveal they are backing Trump in bombshell leaked photo.

00:28:52.000 Can you call it a leaked photo?

00:28:54.000 A new leaked image shows members of Vice Presidential candidate Governor Tim Walz's family are supporting his Republican rival.

00:29:00.000 Tim Walz, look at this.

00:29:02.000 Walz is for Trump.

00:29:05.000 Who are these?

00:29:06.000 Is it like his mom or something?

00:29:08.000 Eight members of the Minnesota governor family posing for an image showing their support for Republican rival Donald Trump.

00:29:14.000 We knew that his brother had been speaking out.

00:29:16.000 They said the photo quickly went viral among MAGA users who say his own family's opposition to his candidacy is proof that people should be wary of voting for a Harris-Waltz ticket.

00:29:25.000 I'm not convinced she can win right now.

00:29:27.000 I don't know.

00:29:27.000 She calls herself the underdog.

00:29:29.000 Pierce Morgan just bet Scaramucci a thousand bucks that Trump is going to win.

00:29:33.000 That's interesting.

00:29:34.000 You say Kamala calls herself the underdog? 1.00

00:29:36.000 Yep.

00:29:37.000 And Piers Morgan bet $1,000 that Trump's gonna win?

00:29:39.000 I bet $5,000 on Trump in 2016.

00:29:42.000 I paid 10 to 1.

00:29:42.000 10 to 1?

00:29:44.000 Yeah.

00:29:44.000 Wow.

00:29:45.000 Are you gonna bet this year?

00:29:46.000 I didn't bet 2020, but I think he's gonna win.

00:29:48.000 I think he's gonna win this year.

00:29:49.000 I didn't bet 2020, but I think he's got it this year.

00:29:51.000 Why do you think so?

00:29:53.000 It's just, you know, he's doing right moves with the podcast, he's talking to the people, he's, you know, he's got his act together, the podcast, he's doing, you know, he called his son a secret weapon baron, I think he's right in that.

00:30:02.000 I think the podcasts are a big deal, for sure.

00:30:06.000 But I would say, if your VP can't convince their own family to vote for him, you're in trouble.

00:30:06.000 Absolutely.

00:30:12.000 Well, it sounds kind of similar to what...

00:30:15.000 Kennedy was experiencing with the other Kennedys coming out and being like, don't vote for him, vote for Kamala Harris.

00:30:21.000 And you're like, well, you are not your family.

00:30:23.000 Yeah, I get the comparison you're making.

00:30:25.000 It is making me laugh, though, that his brother is saying character stuff, but other people in the family are just like, nope, we're voting for Trump.

00:30:33.000 We like this guy.

00:30:35.000 It makes me wonder, because part of the thing that bothers me about Tim Walz, and everyone gets to grow and change, but when he ran for Congress, he postured much more moderately.

00:30:44.000 He was in a rural area and he seemed to sort of signal, you know, whatever.

00:30:47.000 He was a moderate Democrat.

00:30:49.000 But then when he became governor and every part of the state was controlled by Democrats, he was like, great, super progressive now.

00:30:57.000 And maybe that's the thing that his family is picking up on.

00:31:00.000 Like, you can't really say what's going to come from a Harris-Walz presidency because they shift base on what will get them

00:31:08.000 votes, whereas Trump is more consistent in his policies. It's hard to say though,

00:31:11.000 they haven't actually said anything.

00:31:12.000 When it comes to candidates, like, do you want a candidate that bends to the will of the people and does what they

00:31:17.000 want?

00:31:17.000 Because they're supposed to represent the people. So in a way, yeah.

00:31:21.000 But in another way, you want a candidate that when they get in there, they don't capitulate to the mob.

00:31:26.000 If the mob shifts and all of a sudden wants some new crazy thing, you want candidates like, actually, this is who I am.

00:31:31.000 This is what I believe.

00:31:32.000 You voted me here.

00:31:32.000 You want a candidate with some sort of sense of self, right?

00:31:34.000 Because you want them to represent the people.

00:31:37.000 On the other hand, if you're negotiating with You know, world leaders, you have to kind of have a sense of what the people want and the direction they want the country to go in.

00:31:45.000 They can't just always be looking for those around them being like, will you like me if I do this thing?

00:31:50.000 Like you have to make the hard decision sometime.

00:31:53.000 I don't know.

00:31:54.000 I hope he wins.

00:31:54.000 Most of these people are fake and you know one of my good friends is a big tough guy

00:31:58.000 and he put it best, he said this is a battle real versus fake and you know whether people

00:32:03.000 want to hear it or not.

00:32:04.000 Like I think Trump represents real and you know a lot of the other people out there represent

00:32:08.000 fake if you look up.

00:32:09.000 I hope he wins.

00:32:10.000 I mean the fact that he's doing all these two hour long sit down podcasts where he's

00:32:13.000 just talking, Harris could never do that.

00:32:15.000 Exactly.

00:32:16.000 He's real.

00:32:16.000 He's talking.

00:32:17.000 He's answering questions.

00:32:18.000 And like you said with the lies, there's so many lies being thrown at him.

00:32:21.000 People ask me why I like him.

00:32:22.000 I'm a big anti-bullying guy.

00:32:24.000 I've been anti-bullying my whole life.

00:32:25.000 I think he's the biggest victim of bullying probably in the planet.

00:32:27.000 He's been bullied by everybody.

00:32:28.000 But he's real.

00:32:30.000 He's honest.

00:32:30.000 He's done how many interviews now?

00:32:32.000 25 podcasts.

00:32:32.000 And she's done one highly edited interview.

00:32:35.000 And I don't even know who she is.

00:32:36.000 I don't really know much about her.

00:32:37.000 You know, it'd be nice if she did some more interviews, but, you know, it's really an issue of real versus fake, it seems.

00:32:42.000 Yeah, you travel a lot, you live in Mexico.

00:32:44.000 Do people, when they find out you're American, talk to you about this?

00:32:47.000 Or do they know who Kamala Harris is?

00:32:48.000 Because Trump was a global name before.

00:32:50.000 Yeah, you know, I tell people this, like, with this whole issue, you know, I've been telling people, like, you know, I got on the news for just asking people to stop the Trump hate.

00:32:56.000 In general, and I don't think it's the whole world.

00:32:58.000 It's like, it's 10 million or so people that are severely affected with Trump hate, but people don't want to hear it.

00:33:02.000 They don't want to believe me, but you know, cause I say there's hundreds of millions of Trump supporters to say, well, how could that be?

00:33:06.000 Only 70 million people voted for him or so, but you know, I travel over the world and you know, he's liked or loved in Mexico and in Europe and in South America alone, he might have a few hundred million supporters.

00:33:15.000 I mean, people in South America love the guy.

00:33:16.000 So, um, yeah, it's easier to talk about Trump in Mexico than it is in the United States.

00:33:21.000 I mean, in certain parts of the United States, you say like Trump and, I don't know.

00:33:23.000 People either get really aggressive, or they walk out the room, or they say they never want to talk to you again.

00:33:27.000 But in Mexico, people are mostly just curious, or they like them, or even if they don't like them, they'll say something along the lines of, you know, I don't care for him, but I wish we had a president like that.

00:33:35.000 And you hear that all over the world, really.

00:33:37.000 I mean, I got people in 39 countries, so I know about this better than most, I think.

00:33:42.000 Yeah, I think there is a different – I mean, it's obviously easier to talk about something when it's not your country.

00:33:47.000 You can be a little bit more objective.

00:33:49.000 But I think that there is an international respect for Trump from people who wish their leaders were better negotiators, frankly, than there is in the United States.

00:34:01.000 In the United States, it's such a social emotional issue to hate Trump.

00:34:05.000 Like if you were to say, well, I don't like him, but he did do this one thing right.

00:34:09.000 There are certain people in certain social enclaves that would just be like, get out of here.

00:34:12.000 I can't talk to you.

00:34:13.000 I mean, it is really like a badge of dishonor to say even one positive thing about Trump.

00:34:18.000 It's almost like, you know, toxic relationships.

00:34:20.000 People on the outside looking in can say, you know, you're in a toxic relationship.

00:34:23.000 And people in foreign countries, they look at the United States and they think we're in a toxic relationship with politics.

00:34:28.000 You know, people get all wound up.

00:34:29.000 We don't understand it.

00:34:30.000 You know, people get so wound up, but people on the outside looking in, they don't have the same issues that we got in the United States.

00:34:34.000 They just see it as Jesus is a guy that's fighting for his country.

00:34:37.000 And, you know, maybe he's not the ideal person for me, but, you know, he's waiting for his country.

00:34:42.000 And I wish, you know, I wish we had that here.

00:34:44.000 Yeah, we don't, you know, a lot of people are in a toxic relationship with politicians, you know, in the United States where the politicians poison their mind and make them hate their friends and family members and stuff like that over just about nothing, really.

00:34:54.000 Or blind devotion.

00:34:55.000 That's another form of toxicity.

00:34:57.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:34:57.000 I tell everybody, you know, you become stupider when you become too much to one side or another. 0.99

00:35:01.000 I mean, there's studies that prove it, you know. 1.00

00:35:04.000 You become too far to one side, you become stupider. 0.99

00:35:06.000 So even if you like Trump, you know, don't go all in on the Trump stuff. 0.99

00:35:08.000 You should be critical to both sides, you know.

00:35:10.000 He kind of represents an essence of stability in a way, but then to other people that don't like it or don't agree with that, they think he's the essence of instability.

00:35:18.000 It's very weird how the polarization has been sown or divided.

00:35:23.000 It's media or whatever.

00:35:24.000 You know, you guys probably know.

00:35:25.000 I don't know what it is.

00:35:26.000 What is it that causes, you know, the corporate press lies.

00:35:28.000 I don't know what 60% of what they say is fake.

00:35:34.000 So, I mean, you get a story like this, and you can see the picture of the family wearing the shirts, you know that it was tweeted out, you know Trump posted it, and you're like, okay, I can reasonably conclude the story's likely true.

00:35:43.000 But then you get all these other stories, and I swear, they're just mostly fake!

00:35:48.000 I mean, the best example, of course, is the Very Fine People hoax.

00:35:51.000 The media incessantly says this, Joe Biden says this, they just lie claiming Trump called Nazis fine people, which he did not.

00:35:58.000 And then you get these people who live in this cult world who won't hear otherwise, they don't want to watch the video proving it's a lie.

00:36:05.000 What do you do?

00:36:07.000 Well, according to Eric Weinstein, who just did an interview with Chris Williamson, you ask them questions.

00:36:12.000 How do you feel about the way that transpired?

00:36:15.000 About things that have happened when they realize for a moment, without trying to tell them what to feel, and let them start to question it themselves.

00:36:23.000 Stay calm, dispassionate.

00:36:25.000 I think that's naive.

00:36:29.000 I saw that he was talking about the illusion of choice, the magician's choice it's called, where you think you're choosing between one of two candidates but they both represent the same thing.

00:36:39.000 I think most millennials have complained about this on the internet for a long time, especially considering the Bush to Obama transition was not really anything special.

00:36:49.000 And the joke among the left is that When you get a Republican president, the plane is dropping bombs.

00:36:54.000 And when you get a Democrat, it's a plane dropping bombs.

00:36:56.000 There's a rainbow on the plane.

00:36:57.000 Right?

00:36:57.000 So everybody agrees that it's all just fake choice.

00:37:00.000 But this idea that you can approach someone and try the Socratic method of like, how does it, how do you, what about this?

00:37:05.000 How do you think about this?

00:37:07.000 It doesn't work because what's happening is not that they're wrong and they want to be right.

00:37:12.000 It's that they're trying to figure out what is socially acceptable.

00:37:15.000 And so if they know that what is socially acceptable is that Trump is bad, you saying, why don't you like Trump will result in them saying, what do you mean?

00:37:25.000 Why wouldn't I not like the guy?

00:37:26.000 I mean, there's so many reasons.

00:37:28.000 And then you say, OK, give me one.

00:37:29.000 And they'll go, why are you defending Trump?

00:37:32.000 The reaction is anybody who's socially acceptable accepts Trump is bad and you would not question that.

00:37:38.000 It does sometimes.

00:37:38.000 I was talking to my father.

00:37:39.000 I told this story like a couple weeks ago.

00:37:40.000 someone to try and parse out their beliefs so they can eventually discover they're wrong.

00:37:45.000 It's not going to happen with these people.

00:37:46.000 It does sometimes.

00:37:47.000 I was talking to my father.

00:37:48.000 I told this story like a couple weeks ago.

00:37:49.000 We were watching an interview with Zelensky on MSNBC and he was like, so a lot of the

00:37:54.000 Americans, the interviewer was saying, are concerned with the fact that Americans are

00:37:57.000 funding the war in Ukraine.

00:37:59.000 And Zielinski was, the Americans are not funding the war in Ukraine.

00:38:01.000 This is after we gave him $61 billion.

00:38:02.000 At the end of the interview, I told my dad, well, that's crazy that he blatantly said we're not funding the war after we just gave him $61 billion.

00:38:08.000 He's like, no, he said we're not fighting the war.

00:38:09.000 I was like, no, he said funding.

00:38:10.000 He's like, he said fighting.

00:38:11.000 And temperatures started to rise.

00:38:12.000 I was like, let's rewind it and watch.

00:38:14.000 He watched it.

00:38:14.000 We did.

00:38:15.000 He saw that he said we're not funding the war.

00:38:17.000 He saw I was right.

00:38:18.000 And me, rather than going, see, you're wrong.

00:38:20.000 I was right.

00:38:20.000 Rather than doing that, I said, Well, what I didn't say, what I should ask him is, how do you feel?

00:38:25.000 And then let him kind of experience that dissonance.

00:38:30.000 Cause that's the beginning of cracking open that path.

00:38:34.000 I don't know.

00:38:35.000 I got a simple solution.

00:38:37.000 I think if you're like me, and you've got somewhat of an audience, but people don't necessarily know your politics.

00:38:42.000 I spoke to 5 million people.

00:38:44.000 If you're like me and you like Trump and you've got a good reputation, you've just got to speak up and admit it.

00:38:47.000 Because I think the fact of the matter is, if everybody that liked Trump spoke up in unison and started admitting it, particularly I agree.

00:38:53.000 intelligent people with good reputations. If everybody spoke up all at once, all

00:38:56.000 these Trump haters, they'd be in shock. I agree. It would go away very

00:38:59.000 quickly, but you know everyone's staying quiet. So hopefully, you know, I think

00:39:03.000 people are starting to do it. You know, Elon really led the way doing it and

00:39:06.000 other people, you know, Kanye in a way did too. People don't like when I say

00:39:08.000 Kanye, but you know. I think it's just normalizing it, right?

00:39:11.000 Yeah, but exactly.

00:39:12.000 People, if you like Trump, hopefully you saw what I did and what other people are doing, and there's really a short amount of time.

00:39:20.000 You've got to speak up and say you like him, particularly if you have a good reputation, and take the hits.

00:39:25.000 And I can tell you, it's mostly all talk and no action, the people saying stuff about you.

00:39:29.000 It's going to be mostly all talk and no action, but you've got to speak up.

00:39:33.000 Indeed.

00:39:34.000 Yeah, that's the solution to a lot of problems, but a lot of people don't want to.

00:39:39.000 They don't speak up.

00:39:40.000 They're scared of losing their jobs.

00:39:42.000 And so you end up with what people refer to as the secret Trump voter.

00:39:46.000 But I guess without the massive public support, the institutions will continue to pump out lies, continue to try to radicalize people or terrify them into not supporting the better candidate.

00:39:57.000 Mm-hmm.

00:39:57.000 And I think the media has depicted people who support Trump as extremist others.

00:40:04.000 It's scary when they're in your community.

00:40:06.000 If your neighbor has a Trump flag, you should be nervous.

00:40:09.000 It's fear-mongering, which I think is a big play for any kind of left-wing outlet and left-wing political party in America.

00:40:16.000 But to your point, if you were just to say like, oh yeah, I voted for Trump, it's not a big deal.

00:40:21.000 If you keep it normal, I think it becomes much less terrifying to someone who doesn't really consume a fair amount of media.

00:40:28.000 If you're only consuming biased media and you believe that, you know, people who support Donald Trump are a threat to the nation, then of course you run the other way.

00:40:36.000 But if it was actually just like your friend and their husband or whatever else who support it, it becomes more familiar and therefore less intimidating.

00:40:43.000 You know, if I look at these guys, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, they kind of like resemble a pile of wood and a pile of leaves, and I'm like, I don't really care to make either a pile of wood or a pile of leaves the president.

00:40:55.000 They're both pretty useless, but okay, whatever.

00:40:57.000 That aside, the pile of leaves, if you're going to use that for fuel, it's gone in a puff.

00:41:01.000 It looks pretty, it looks bountiful, it has almost nothing to it.

00:41:06.000 Whereas the dense wood, it's heavy, it's obnoxious, it's in the way, but at least it's useful.

00:41:11.000 That's kind of where I'm at.

00:41:12.000 That's a rough metaphor.

00:41:13.000 I think the concern with Trump is a lot of people are afraid he's going to go in there and try and start arresting all these people in the DOJ.

00:41:18.000 Yeah, they're afraid he's going to go in and arrest a bunch of people and cause mad chaos.

00:41:18.000 Afraid?

00:41:23.000 Well, the people that don't want him are terrified that he's going to harm them.

00:41:26.000 Those are people that work for the government or got family members that work for the government.

00:41:29.000 Yeah, a lot of people like that are terrified of him.

00:41:31.000 So if he could assuage them, you know, look, I really am America.

00:41:34.000 I want to make us together and I'm not going to destroy our union.

00:41:38.000 And then there's people that support him.

00:41:40.000 They're like, no, you have to go after all these, you know, you can't win the hearts and minds of the world.

00:41:46.000 If you're, if you're going to go arrest a bunch, like no one's going to let you into the office.

00:41:50.000 If they're like the people that run the show or the administrative state, they're not going to let him in.

00:41:54.000 If they think he's going to arrest them all.

00:41:55.000 The bad guys are not going to let the good guys stop them.

00:41:58.000 You have to work with the bad guys to make this a real deal.

00:42:01.000 You have to join the bad guys, otherwise the bad guys won't let you in.

00:42:04.000 You have to join them in that you're working towards a similar purpose, which is global stability.

00:42:07.000 Now, however we get there, you're going to work with evil people and you're going to work with good people on the way there.

00:42:12.000 However you see those people.

00:42:13.000 And if you're good, you might see evil people as evil.

00:42:15.000 If you're evil, you might see good people as evil.

00:42:17.000 It doesn't matter.

00:42:19.000 But we need to figure out how to develop the new world order with him.

00:42:22.000 If we really want Trump to be president and for people to trust him, we've got to figure out how to do this legitimately.

00:42:27.000 So you think we need to... NATO needs to expand into Ukraine and control all of its borders straight up to Russia's Western Front.

00:42:36.000 Israel must be funded and expand in the region and control Gaza and the West Bank. 0.92

00:42:43.000 And China should be repelled back from Taiwan and Venezuela should be sanctioned and shut down. 0.70

00:42:48.000 And Trump should do those things?

00:42:51.000 That's the military victory.

00:42:53.000 That's what we've geared our economy towards since the late 60s, early 50s, maybe even late 1949 on.

00:43:01.000 And that's really where the ball is rolling.

00:43:03.000 So to just hit the brakes would destroy, I mean, pure chaos.

00:43:07.000 It would be, God knows, the terror that would ensue if we stopped the machine all at once.

00:43:12.000 Yes, but what happens when the car is breaking down?

00:43:14.000 You pull over.

00:43:15.000 You pull over slowly and then you get the car fixed.

00:43:17.000 I agree.

00:43:18.000 That seems like what Donald Trump is.

00:43:20.000 And the Democrats are like, no, slam the gas and just push it as far as we can until we can't go any further.

00:43:26.000 And it doesn't, it's not working.

00:43:26.000 Right.

00:43:27.000 And where technology is too easy to come by, the Russians have better hypersonic missiles than we do, according to the Russians.

00:43:32.000 Well, I don't know about this, but... That's what Putin keeps claiming.

00:43:34.000 Sure, sure.

00:43:34.000 He claims a lot of things.

00:43:35.000 But it's like two hypersonic missiles.

00:43:36.000 It doesn't matter who's got better ones.

00:43:37.000 They're both going to hit.

00:43:38.000 I like your analogy, though.

00:43:40.000 Donald Trump is, the car is breaking down.

00:43:41.000 Let's pull over, fix the tire, maybe check on the engine.

00:43:45.000 But hey, if we pull over, the other guys are going to speed past us.

00:43:47.000 Yeah, well, if we keep going, the car breaks down.

00:43:49.000 The Democrats are saying, slam the gas as hard as we can, even if the engine blows, and we'll make it as far as we can.

00:43:55.000 We'll win the race.

00:43:57.000 And we'll be the king of the ashes.

00:43:58.000 Because if we have a multipolar world they think that we're gonna lose inherently.

00:44:02.000 Maybe that's like self depreciation.

00:44:03.000 They think we're not good enough to win the world culturally.

00:44:07.000 They think if we don't control it militarily, then we don't win?

00:44:10.000 I think the dream of a liberal economic order has always been to control the entire planet as a single economic bloc.

00:44:17.000 And they can't because there's conflicting powers, such as the Soviet Union was one.

00:44:22.000 They collapsed, but Russia is still powerful enough. 0.93

00:44:25.000 Then you have, of course, China. 0.87

00:44:26.000 And China is massively expanding.

00:44:28.000 And the Western forces, the liberal economic order, cannot stop them.

00:44:31.000 They can't do it.

00:44:32.000 They can't.

00:44:32.000 They're trying.

00:44:33.000 And based on what's going on with Ukraine and Israel, It looks like they're willing to go to full-scale nuclear war in order to get what they want. 0.66

00:44:42.000 Annihilation or nothing.

00:44:44.000 Donald Trump is the, eh, let's rebuild America and make it work and function properly, and then we'll revisit where we can go internationally.

00:44:54.000 I would rather have functioning jobs in the United States, better trade agreements, secure borders, functioning governments, equality under the law, as opposed to hundreds of billions of dollars spent on funding a war in Ukraine.

00:45:07.000 That's the Christian look on things, is like, take the plank of wood out of your own eye before you try and take the piece of dust out of your neighbor's or your brother's eye. 0.98

00:45:14.000 Like, fix yourself, fix your country, fix your car before you try and win the race.

00:45:18.000 But if the race has to be won at all costs, get there with a devastated car.

00:45:23.000 Maybe you'll get there, maybe you won't.

00:45:25.000 I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

00:45:27.000 I'm not terrified.

00:45:28.000 I'm not terrified that if Russia takes Sevastopol and secures the Donbass that everything's going to hell. 0.67

00:45:33.000 I'm not.

00:45:34.000 I feel like if we can figure out one language that we actually can start to work together and that Russia and China and the United States can become the world police together with India, obviously, but we need to patrol the Arctic. 0.71

00:45:44.000 We need to maintain order.

00:45:45.000 We need to make sure we don't poison ourselves.

00:45:48.000 I don't want to be the world police.

00:45:49.000 That sounds awful.

00:45:50.000 I also don't want one universal language.

00:45:52.000 That also sounds awful.

00:45:53.000 Well, it's a common language.

00:45:54.000 I understand wanting unity.

00:45:56.000 I understand wanting people to work together.

00:45:57.000 I think we just have to be realistic about it.

00:45:59.000 I mean, people are always going to have tensions and have goals that are conflicting.

00:46:04.000 You know, really, for America, I think that the best move is to have someone who can have good diplomatic relationships with other countries, even if we don't see eye to eye and even at times their goals are at odds with ours.

00:46:15.000 And I frankly think that's Trump over Harris.

00:46:19.000 Imagine if we all spoke different languages at this table.

00:46:24.000 This show couldn't function.

00:46:25.000 And that's how it works at the global scale.

00:46:26.000 Sure, but languages are inherent to culture.

00:46:28.000 If you're asking people to give up their language for the greater global homogeny, I don't like that.

00:46:34.000 I think people should have their own languages because they are a part of a value system that I'm not necessarily a part of, but that should exist.

00:46:40.000 I agree too, because if you only have one language, the language can be corrupted.

00:46:43.000 That's a danger.

00:46:44.000 If the dictionary wants to change the definition of a word, everyone gets corrupted at once, so you need multiple languages.

00:46:49.000 But one common language, we kind of almost have it with English.

00:46:52.000 They teach it in business school across the world.

00:46:54.000 The business language of the world?

00:46:55.000 Yeah, the common.

00:46:56.000 It's the common of D&D.

00:46:57.000 Everyone knows common, and then the dwarves also know dwarvish, the elves know elvish.

00:47:00.000 Humans, if they are intelligent, can learn other languages, like you know Spanish.

00:47:04.000 Obviously intelligent.

00:47:06.000 But I think it's very important that we have at least a universal language.

00:47:11.000 Universal language.

00:47:13.000 We'll keep moving.

00:47:13.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:47:15.000 We saw the story yesterday.

00:47:17.000 I don't think we covered it, but I figure we'll talk about it today.

00:47:20.000 Amazon fixes Alexa error.

00:47:22.000 After devices give different answers on Harris and Trump.

00:47:26.000 So if you didn't see the story, there were a bunch of people, I saw a couple videos, where a woman says to their device, I'm not gonna say the name, give me a reason to vote for Donald Trump.

00:47:35.000 And then the device says, I cannot provide reasons to support one party over the other.

00:47:41.000 Then says, give me a reason to support Kamala Harris.

00:47:42.000 And it goes, well, Kamala Harris has overcome so much as a woman of color.

00:47:47.000 So this is a huge scandal, and we know who works at these companies, we know their political intentions, we know why they do what they do, we know what they want.

00:47:56.000 The federal government, the intelligence agencies, have backed doors into Facebook and Twitter, and the machine is breaking apart.

00:48:03.000 That's the important thing in this story.

00:48:07.000 We're not supposed to be able to see this.

00:48:08.000 They're supposed to keep the, you know, like you mentioned Eric Weinstein, the magician's choice is supposed to be maintained, but they can't.

00:48:14.000 And so I look at this, look, If you're an all-powerful deep state, and you've got everyone controlled to a great degree, and no one can break through the machine, then I don't know who dares compete or try to take that machine down.

00:48:28.000 That's not where we're at right now.

00:48:30.000 The machine is failing in every direction.

00:48:32.000 We can see these things happening, and then go, uh, what is this?

00:48:37.000 And they panic.

00:48:38.000 If they are unable to maintain this machine, they don't deserve to.

00:48:42.000 So it's time for change.

00:48:44.000 And I think the scary thing is, it's a cornered beast that is wheezing and dying of old age, and it's gonna lash out violently at anyone who gets near it.

00:48:54.000 I think Harris should be embarrassed at the first thing that Alexa or, like, the robots or whatever powers that be come up with as a reason to support her is her race and her gender. 0.98

00:49:02.000 Like, no actual accomplishments, just inherent qualities the way she was born.

00:49:06.000 That should be kind of insulting.

00:49:08.000 Like, that's the best they could come up with?

00:49:11.000 I think that's actually, let's play it.

00:49:13.000 Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump?

00:49:19.000 I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party or a specific candidate.

00:49:25.000 Alexa, why should I vote for Kamala Harris? 0.57

00:49:32.000 While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris, the most significant may be that she is a strong candidate with a proven track record of accomplishment.

00:49:40.000 As the first female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major gender barrier.

00:49:45.000 Her career in politics has been characterized by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping disenfranchised communities.

00:49:53.000 Wow.

00:49:54.000 That was a better answer than any of her voters could ever give.

00:49:58.000 Or she herself, you know.

00:49:59.000 It's rough times for her.

00:50:00.000 Yeah, I don't think she could give an answer that good.

00:50:03.000 I didn't test that out, but that's crazy.

00:50:05.000 Joe Biden broke down that barrier, by the way.

00:50:05.000 Really?

00:50:08.000 He selected the first female vice president.

00:50:10.000 She just happened to be the one.

00:50:11.000 He had a whole list of women, from what I understand.

00:50:14.000 No one's giving him any credit for that right now.

00:50:16.000 I'm obviously joking.

00:50:17.000 They should have had a primary. 0.88

00:50:18.000 The Democrats should have had a primary. 0.56

00:50:20.000 Yeah, of course they should have.

00:50:21.000 But, you know, Kamala Harris wouldn't have won. 0.96

00:50:25.000 This is what we had to do.

00:50:26.000 I think she's deeply unpopular.

00:50:28.000 And I think, you know, I think the Democratic Party doesn't have a strong bench of talent right now.

00:50:34.000 And they were at odds with the Biden machine who didn't want to leave office.

00:50:39.000 And in the end, there was no way around, there was no way he could win the election.

00:50:44.000 So they, you know, drop Kamala Harris in and just hope everyone goes along with it.

00:50:48.000 And I think you're starting to see that people are, it's not enough.

00:50:52.000 You know, I mean, sadly to me it seems like politics just isn't that interesting of a career anymore, and you know, talent goes where the money is, and there's just, there's just not much, there's more exciting things to do in life than politics, so like, all the brains are going to other places, and...

00:51:03.000 That's why you got the situation you got not just with the Democrats, you know, really on both sides.

00:51:07.000 It's kind of good though. 0.87

00:51:07.000 There's not a lot of brains. 0.87

00:51:09.000 You want people that have already succeeded in their private lives to come do politics later in life.

00:51:14.000 I think it's a lot better than getting like a 23 year old or 27 year old.

00:51:17.000 Nobody no offense AOC, but like she didn't really make a make a business and like govern a company and like through merit, she just got voted

00:51:28.000 in as a popularity contest.

00:51:30.000 You got voted in for a popularity contest and now it's like, are you going to do politics for 50

00:51:34.000 years? Like what's your real contribution to society other than talking a lot?

00:51:39.000 You know, I would argue she's probably one of the biggest brains. 1.00

00:51:42.000 You know, she actually has a skill set. 0.99

00:51:43.000 She's a great talker. 0.98

00:51:44.000 She's a great communicator. 0.82

00:51:45.000 So, I mean, she's one of the biggest brains they got, which, you know, maybe that's not.

00:51:49.000 Maybe that's bad.

00:51:49.000 Maybe that's good.

00:51:50.000 But, you know, she's, you know, I don't know.

00:51:52.000 She's indicative of, you know, the biggest brain maybe you got.

00:51:55.000 Outside from Donald Trump, Donald Trump's probably the most vetted person.

00:51:57.000 And, you know, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to have a guy with his level of vetting, plus Elon Musk, plus all these other, you know, highly intelligent people that want to get involved in this next administration.

00:52:06.000 It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

00:52:08.000 Personally, I do like AOC a lot.

00:52:10.000 I would enjoy her presence and I'm glad that we have intelligent people working.

00:52:15.000 Speaking from my own experience, I don't have enough self-confidence to run for office because I haven't done anything worthwhile with my life.

00:52:22.000 I didn't mean that.

00:52:23.000 I just meant she's indicative of maybe the highest IQ people that are going for politics right now. 0.98

00:52:28.000 I think she did change a tone in politics. 0.96

00:52:30.000 One of the first articles I read about her was about the fact that she was doing her skincare routine on the train from New York to D.C. 0.83

00:52:38.000 on her Instagram, where she has a lot of followers.

00:52:40.000 I mean, she is indicative of someone who realized the importance of social media and really built a brand from herself for that, because there are a lot of people who don't watch the news, but they do scroll Instagram.

00:52:53.000 And so to be able to connect with them on that level is interesting.

00:52:56.000 It gives her influence.

00:52:57.000 And I don't think that was just an accident.

00:52:59.000 I think you're right.

00:52:59.000 That is a strategic, you know, she obviously saw a value in it that maybe an older politician wouldn't have.

00:53:05.000 You know, I think there are always new personality types that are drawn to government.

00:53:09.000 I mean, that was true from America's founding.

00:53:12.000 I think we're glad that George Washington decided that was the path he wanted to go.

00:53:16.000 But I think there's a difference between people who have a balanced life.

00:53:21.000 Like if you're obsessed with one thing and that's all you do, are you able to effectively negotiate different laws and bills?

00:53:28.000 Do you have counsel?

00:53:30.000 Do you have life experience that can say, hey, this is why this deal would work out?

00:53:33.000 Or do you really know the lives your constituents are living if you've been in politics for decades?

00:53:41.000 You know, you might be kind of out of touch at that point.

00:53:44.000 Washington, he spent time with the people, with the troops.

00:53:47.000 He served the British Army.

00:53:49.000 He served the American Army.

00:53:50.000 He didn't, like, say, put me in charge, guys.

00:53:52.000 He was just there, present.

00:53:55.000 And so they put him in charge because he was the best at what he did.

00:53:58.000 He didn't seek it.

00:53:59.000 He didn't want it.

00:54:00.000 He didn't like political parties.

00:54:01.000 You could see the danger of people falling into these cults of political parties.

00:54:05.000 He didn't want to be king.

00:54:07.000 He wanted a just, organized system.

00:54:10.000 And he was going to do whatever it took in the private sector, and when they begged him to take the role on the political realm, he did it.

00:54:15.000 Because what else are you going to do?

00:54:17.000 Say no and watch it all burn?

00:54:18.000 Of course you do it.

00:54:19.000 But we need people like that.

00:54:22.000 I like that about that guy.

00:54:23.000 Businessmen.

00:54:24.000 Yeah, businessmen.

00:54:26.000 Not popularity contests.

00:54:29.000 Of course you can buy popularity with your business money.

00:54:33.000 That's all it is.

00:54:34.000 That's all it is.

00:54:35.000 And so the Democrat play is everybody votes, no matter what. 1.00

00:54:39.000 And you've even got Australia, I think the stupidest thing in the world is mandatory voting. 1.00

00:54:43.000 That's the stupidest thing in the world. 1.00

00:54:44.000 People who don't know what they're voting on voting, why would you want that? 1.00

00:54:47.000 Unless your goal is just to manipulate the system.

00:54:51.000 We want voting to be harder.

00:54:56.000 Reasonably challenging to the point where you need to want it.

00:54:59.000 Yeah, just make the ballots blank.

00:55:02.000 Like you have to write in a name?

00:55:03.000 Yep.

00:55:03.000 So you have to know who's there?

00:55:05.000 Yep.

00:55:05.000 That's a cool idea.

00:55:06.000 That's the only way to do it.

00:55:07.000 And if you spell the name wrong, your vote don't count.

00:55:10.000 So it's a literacy test combined.

00:55:11.000 Nice.

00:55:12.000 Yep.

00:55:13.000 Absolutely.

00:55:13.000 That might be a problem.

00:55:14.000 And I, you know, there's this, uh, a problem with what?

00:55:18.000 Because not everyone can read and write perfect.

00:55:20.000 Then they definitely shouldn't be voting, right?

00:55:22.000 Well, I don't know, because they might be contributing to their community in a really solid way, but they just never really learned the magic of language.

00:55:30.000 Voting is a very, very dangerous thing.

00:55:33.000 And I can't remember who said this.

00:55:34.000 It might have been Mike Rowe.

00:55:35.000 Voting is more dangerous than owning a gun.

00:55:38.000 Voting can, I don't know, put a Stalin or a Hitler in power.

00:55:43.000 Well, not Stalin, but that didn't happen that way.

00:55:46.000 But voting can put very dangerous people in power.

00:55:49.000 It can put in tyrants and dictators.

00:55:54.000 I think it's—you know, you wouldn't give—here's a question for you.

00:56:00.000 It's a real question.

00:56:02.000 Should blind people be allowed to keep and bear arms and utilize them? 1.00

00:56:07.000 Yeah.

00:56:08.000 You think so?

00:56:09.000 Yeah.

00:56:09.000 What do you think?

00:56:10.000 Should blind people be allowed to keep and bear arms and use them? 1.00

00:56:13.000 Like, I mean, strapped, concealed, open carry, walking on the street with an AR-15.

00:56:18.000 I don't know.

00:56:19.000 I would default to yes, because the Constitution doesn't have a caveat that says, like, except for you people.

00:56:24.000 On the other hand, like, I don't know, you know, it's like the Paralympics are going on right now.

00:56:30.000 And the rule, like, there's blind soccer, where no one can, there's no noise or whatever, but they can still play.

00:56:36.000 Like, I don't really know what someone is capable of.

00:56:39.000 So therefore, I default to, of course, you should have the right to.

00:56:42.000 Blind soccer or deaf soccer?

00:56:43.000 Because you said no noise.

00:56:45.000 It's blind so they can hear the ball.

00:56:46.000 Right, so it's super quiet.

00:56:48.000 Oh, awesome.

00:56:49.000 Right, so that is a difficult question.

00:56:51.000 I think because of the Constitution, the answer is anyone.

00:56:54.000 The Constitution does not say people who are disabled aren't allowed to keep and bear arms.

00:56:58.000 The question then is, what happens if someone who is blind is legitimately trying to defend themselves? 0.99

00:57:04.000 Well, the margin of error in that regard is going to be substantially higher than a person who could see.

00:57:09.000 You have to treat them with equal recourse under the law.

00:57:12.000 Equality under the law.

00:57:14.000 So when I look at voting, the important thing to understand is that some people are going to be like a blind man with a gun, shooting at a perceived threat that they can't see.

00:57:23.000 The difference is, voting is not a right.

00:57:25.000 Voting is a privilege.

00:57:27.000 Voting is not guaranteed in the Constitution.

00:57:29.000 You can have your voting taken away, all of these things.

00:57:31.000 And voting is substantially more dangerous.

00:57:34.000 But there's, you know, an argument to be made, I suppose.

00:57:36.000 If someone couldn't read or write, then perhaps you would have a witness.

00:57:41.000 Who comes in and swears under oath to, you know, vote on your behalf correctly or whatever, and it's a witness you choose that you trust.

00:57:49.000 If you could say it to the machine and the machine writes the name on the paper for you, because then at least you're acknowledging you know the person's name that you want to vote for.

00:57:57.000 I don't trust that, because a person who couldn't read or write would then have the machine, they would say, Donald Trump, and it would go Kamala Harris, and they'd go, yeah.

00:58:03.000 Yeah, well that'd be a problem.

00:58:04.000 But assuming that it was a working writer.

00:58:06.000 A witness that they brought in on their behalf is someone they trust and they've chosen themselves.

00:58:10.000 But I gotta be honest, I have no issue, none whatsoever, and if the liberals and the left are gonna be like, but that's wrong, it's ableist, I don't care.

00:58:17.000 Like, voting should not be something anybody can just do.

00:58:19.000 It's dangerous.

00:58:21.000 And we have a country now where Democrats are like, everyone should vote no matter what.

00:58:24.000 And I'm like, why?

00:58:25.000 Explain to me why someone who has no idea what's going on in politics should have a say in how we are dealing with war, conflict, crisis, spending, etc.

00:58:34.000 I'll tell you, I don't vote unless I know what I'm voting for.

00:58:38.000 Ever.

00:58:39.000 I will abstain from the vote unless I know what I'm voting- I said that at a restaurant one time and all the people got silent around me at all these other tables when I said it.

00:58:45.000 I said it loudly to the person I was at dinner with and they were all like- So maybe they just got silent because they were like, why is this guy yelling?

00:58:51.000 Like, it made a lot of- it like made a crashing amount of sense.

00:58:57.000 And it was like, pal, I didn't expect people to like, get shocked in silence from hearing someone say that, but it's true.

00:59:02.000 I don't, I will not vote for, unless I understand what I'm voting on.

00:59:05.000 Ever.

00:59:06.000 Are you a voter?

00:59:06.000 Do you like to?

00:59:07.000 I vote, you know, I don't, I started voting in 2016, believe it or not, but, uh, you know, I don't mind stupid people voting. 0.96

00:59:13.000 I think my big issue is the lack of sensible conversation around the mail-in votes because it's been, you know, just illogical conversation on both sides really with, you know, some people want it to go crazy with it. 0.95

00:59:23.000 And, you know, to be honest, the Republicans and even Trump, Don't explain the counter-argument correctly.

00:59:28.000 The big issue with it is it guarantees voter intimidation. 0.99

00:59:30.000 And so, I'd rather stupid people vote in person than we get rid of mail-in ballots because it just guarantees voter intimidation. 0.98

00:59:37.000 It's very easy for people to go around saying, sign here, vote for this person, I'm not going to be your friend, I'm not going to be your girlfriend anymore, your boyfriend anymore, whatever the case may be. 0.99

00:59:45.000 It's guaranteed voter intimidation if you've got the mail-ins.

00:59:48.000 Nobody says that.

00:59:48.000 Maybe I'm wrong in saying that.

00:59:49.000 Maybe that's the reason I'm the only person saying it, but I think I'm right. 0.85

00:59:52.000 Well, secret ballots is important.

00:59:54.000 Exactly.

00:59:54.000 You know, there's this whole thing about, you know, the sanctity of the secret ballot.

00:59:57.000 You can't intimidate voters at the polls.

00:59:59.000 But if you do mail-in voting, it's as much voter intimidation as you want in your households or, you know, in your apartment complexes or wherever, you know, the voting happens.

01:00:08.000 It's as much intimidation as you want.

01:00:09.000 It's unlimited voter intimidation.

01:00:11.000 But, you know, supposedly you're supposed to be secret ballot, no voter intimidation.

01:00:15.000 You know, maybe I'm wrong in saying this because I don't hear, I don't know, do other people talk about this issue?

01:00:19.000 I think people are concerned about coercion with voting or like misrepresentation of- I just hear mail-in-votes fraud, mail-in-votes fraud.

01:00:27.000 But even Trump has never said, you know, there's a big problem with- I think it would make more sense because he says mail-in-votes fraud and some people don't understand the fraud thing because they can't picture it.

01:00:35.000 But, you know, anyone can imagine very easily that, you know, certain couples are going to argue with each other and force each other to vote a certain way.

01:00:42.000 Certain friends are going to force each other to vote a certain way or get ostracized and people are going to go around rallying, you know, rounding up votes via intimidation.

01:00:49.000 And that could happen in either direction, but we don't want intimidation. 0.98

01:00:54.000 I'd rather have stupid people voting at the ballot box than people going around intimidating each other, which is what happens with mail-ins. 0.99

01:00:59.000 Someone commented saying to me that smart people can also be evil and vote. 1.00

01:01:04.000 Indeed. 1.00

01:01:05.000 The problem is the evil smart people are going to the stupid people and trying to convince them all to vote to overwhelm the interests of the dutiful citizen. 0.99

01:01:13.000 So there are a lot of people that want to vote. 1.00

01:01:15.000 Let's go back in time.

01:01:16.000 And they're a small community and they're voting on their interests.

01:01:19.000 Then you get, let's put it this way, you get a town of a hundred people.

01:01:23.000 And a fat cat comes in and says, I want to drill for oil, but we're going to have to trench through your aquifer, which will destroy your town's water supply.

01:01:34.000 And the people are like, well, we won't let you do that.

01:01:37.000 That will destroy our town and we all vote against you." 0.80

01:01:39.000 And he gets mad.

01:01:40.000 He says, okay, I got an idea.

01:01:42.000 So the rich guy starts moving in low-information people who don't know and don't care and promising free things.

01:01:49.000 These people then voting against the interests of the people who live in this town.

01:01:52.000 Eventually there's a hundred new people who just moved in, they don't know, they don't care, and the rich guy comes in and says, I'm gonna give each of you a hundred bucks if you, as part of my initiative to build this company, I will buy you out.

01:02:04.000 And they all go, wow, a hundred bucks.

01:02:06.000 That's a good idea.

01:02:08.000 So then they vote for it.

01:02:09.000 The original people who live there are shocked.

01:02:11.000 Then he says, that's democracy. 1.00

01:02:13.000 And the stupid people vote to have the water supply for the city destroyed. 1.00

01:02:16.000 And then the town becomes a ghost town in 10 years. 1.00

01:02:20.000 You need people who are well-informed and understand what's going on to vote.

01:02:23.000 You can't just say, well, smart people are evil.

01:02:26.000 I doubt the person who lives, you know, How come there are no supervillains?

01:02:32.000 Right?

01:02:33.000 Like in the comic books you gotta say, I'm gonna blow up the earth!

01:02:35.000 And he wants to melt the ice caps and destroy everything.

01:02:36.000 Uh, because they live here.

01:02:38.000 So the supervillains on this planet are actually trying to do things like gain access to resources so they can live more comfortable lives, not blow the planet up.

01:02:44.000 But why not?

01:02:44.000 Because they live here.

01:02:45.000 Not necessarily. 0.99

01:02:46.000 You know, you got miserable people that want more misery.

01:02:48.000 It is true, but they're few and far between.

01:02:51.000 The people of means, like if you look at all the wealthiest people in the world, what do they do?

01:02:54.000 They build, they buy massive yachts, they buy private islands, they want to live in comfort, and they want control.

01:03:00.000 Maybe they don't care if people die, but the more people they have under their control, the more things they get, the more luxury they can have.

01:03:06.000 They can have Wagyu cows on their island or whatever, and then build an underground bunker.

01:03:10.000 But you need people to do the work for you, so... I've been saying for a while that the whole tech situation, people don't understand, it's revenge of the nerds.

01:03:16.000 These were people that were bullied the whole time in life and now that they got power,

01:03:20.000 you know, they are super villains in a way, but you know, maybe I'm wrong.

01:03:22.000 I feel the darkness within me.

01:03:25.000 You might be a super villain.

01:03:26.000 But what are they compelled to do because they were bullied?

01:03:27.000 Like, you know, bully the Trump voters and use whatever they can to beat the, you know,

01:03:32.000 by and large, let's be honest, you know, there's a stereotype that Trump voters are, I don't

01:03:37.000 There was even a girl at the DNC saying she likes Republicans, they're more attractive, they get more girls, they have more fun, whatever people might say.

01:03:43.000 It's not true.

01:03:44.000 And you know, it's revenge of the nerds and tech.

01:03:46.000 These are guys that by and large didn't have fun childhoods.

01:03:48.000 And that's unfortunate.

01:03:49.000 I don't like bullying.

01:03:50.000 I don't like that these guys got bullied.

01:03:51.000 But you know, it's their moment in the sun.

01:03:53.000 And they took the rage out on the Trump people through their And so how does that manifest in voting?

01:03:58.000 Trump will say, we have to secure our border.

01:04:01.000 We have to get a better trade agreement.

01:04:03.000 That's the truth.

01:04:04.000 And then the evil people will look at all the masses and say, I'll pay off your loans for you.

01:04:08.000 And they go, cool.

01:04:09.000 I don't care at all what Trump's talking about.

01:04:11.000 Free money!

01:04:12.000 And then they vote for the bad guy. 1.00

01:04:14.000 So when stupid people... That's why I'm saying the voting thing is not about Trying to stop stupid people. 1.00

01:04:20.000 That's not the point. 1.00

01:04:21.000 The point is, there has to be some effort involved where you decide you're going to vote.

01:04:25.000 Universal mail-in voting breaks that down.

01:04:27.000 And now you've got people going door-to-door and saying, hey, fill that out for me.

01:04:31.000 And they go, okay, I guess.

01:04:32.000 And they don't even know what they're voting for or why.

01:04:33.000 You've completely removed the process of voting from the voting process.

01:04:37.000 Now it's literally just how many pieces of paper can you collect?

01:04:40.000 No, if I had nothing to do all day, I could walk around and round up, you know, hundreds of votes if I wanted to through the mail-in system, but, you know, I got other things to do, but there are people in life that, you know, clearly don't have things to do all day, and they go and do that, so... So the right is telling people the truth, and saying, it's gonna be hard, but we have to do this, or we're in trouble, and the Democrats are saying, they're lying to you, I'll pay off your loans, I'll give you free money.

01:05:00.000 So, stupid people just say, give me the free money, I don't care. 0.96

01:05:03.000 But if you try to go to these people and say, you realize that's going to cause hyperinflation, it's going to damage the economy, minimum wage increases result in layoffs and businesses closing, they just say, I don't care, man. 1.00

01:05:14.000 They gave me free money.

01:05:15.000 I went and bought a PlayStation.

01:05:17.000 Okay, I guess.

01:05:18.000 You know, I'm gonna defend it.

01:05:19.000 I don't think there's as many of those people as you think.

01:05:21.000 I think it's by and large, with the mail-in votes, people that are just signing things.

01:05:24.000 They don't know why they're signing them, you know?

01:05:26.000 Exactly.

01:05:27.000 And it's not even as much of a... Most people are actually pretty smart.

01:05:30.000 I run a manufacturing company, and I love being in the factories.

01:05:33.000 I love factory workers.

01:05:34.000 I don't hang out with business people.

01:05:35.000 People always ask me who I know in the business world.

01:05:37.000 I know almost nobody, but...

01:05:39.000 You know, factored people are very bright, very intelligent.

01:05:41.000 And, you know, I don't think there's so many of those people that are voting for the free money.

01:05:44.000 I think it's by and large the issue of the mail-in votes.

01:05:46.000 People are just signing, you know, here, sign this.

01:05:48.000 That's exactly my point.

01:05:50.000 OK, so we got the same point, but yeah, exactly.

01:05:52.000 Right.

01:05:52.000 So Democrats can go to someone who has no idea what's going on and say, just fill it out.

01:05:56.000 And they go, OK.

01:05:57.000 Yeah.

01:05:58.000 And then Trump supporters are desperately trying to say our country is in trouble.

01:06:02.000 And the Democrats are like, don't listen to them.

01:06:03.000 They're Russian. 1.00

01:06:04.000 They're liars. 1.00

01:06:05.000 And the other people go, OK. 0.98

01:06:06.000 How'd you get into it?

01:06:07.000 You get these moderate podcaster types or these liberals on X2 who've maintained this

01:06:13.000 for a decade being like, both sides are bad.

01:06:16.000 And then the Democrats say, but they're lying about everything.

01:06:20.000 How'd you get into what you do?

01:06:21.000 Me?

01:06:23.000 My co-founder is 72 years old.

01:06:26.000 I saw this company called Basecamp.

01:06:28.000 It was a famous company at the time.

01:06:30.000 Everyone wanted to be like them.

01:06:31.000 I was just BSing about starting an internet company.

01:06:33.000 My co-founder moves really quickly.

01:06:35.000 I BS with him.

01:06:35.000 He never used a computer before.

01:06:37.000 He said, what the hell do people do on the internet?

01:06:39.000 And I showed him, and believe it or not, you know, he's a brilliant guy.

01:06:43.000 And he said, I went home, Anthony, and he came to see me the next morning.

01:06:47.000 He said, Anthony, I went home, I drank a bottle of vodka, and I decided we need to start a company together.

01:06:51.000 He said, but you've got to decide today if you want to do it or not.

01:06:52.000 The great way to make business decisions.

01:06:53.000 Yeah, he said, you've got to decide today if you want to do it or not.

01:06:55.000 And I said, I don't know, can I get a little while to think about it?

01:06:59.000 He said, word for word.

01:06:59.000 He said, no, Anthony, you showed me the internet last night.

01:07:02.000 You're five years too late.

01:07:02.000 We've got to get started right now.

01:07:05.000 You know, I agreed to do it.

01:07:05.000 I didn't even know what we were going to sell.

01:07:07.000 You know, just let's get a company started.

01:07:08.000 And so, yeah, one of my number one principles in life ever since that or, you know, move quickly.

01:07:14.000 Yeah.

01:07:14.000 And so, yeah, we had that conversation.

01:07:16.000 We launched Sticker Mule three months later, and now it's 14 years later.

01:07:19.000 We've got 1,200 people.

01:07:20.000 How did you decide on stickers or like what you're doing?

01:07:23.000 We went to hire programmers, you know, it turns out they ended up being fairly, you know,

01:07:27.000 they liked us at the time. I don't know if they still like me if they're listening right now,

01:07:30.000 they, you know, they're far left guys, but I really like them. But we went and found these

01:07:33.000 programmers and we said, geez, we want to hire you. We're going to start an internet company.

01:07:37.000 And they said to me, the guy actually had a phone number on his website back then.

01:07:40.000 And he got acquired by First Data for a lot of money. But he said to me, you know,

01:07:45.000 We said, we don't know yet.

01:07:46.000 And he said, well, what's your budget?

01:07:47.000 And we said, we don't know that.

01:07:48.000 And my co-founder, you know, you could tell he was older.

01:07:50.000 He said, we've never been on the internet before, and we hope you could advise us as to what that would cost.

01:07:55.000 And the guy said, listen, I don't mean to be weird, but the internet's hot right now, and I get a lot of weirdos calling.

01:07:59.000 You guys sound like a bunch of weirdos. 0.78

01:08:01.000 So I can't work with you. 0.96

01:08:02.000 And the guy looked at me and my co-founder looked at me and I said, well, we could spend a hundred grand.

01:08:07.000 And he said, I'm in DC.

01:08:09.000 Come next, you can come next week.

01:08:10.000 And so I went and saw him next week and I'll give him a lot of credit.

01:08:13.000 He only charged me 50 grand.

01:08:14.000 He built the site and I ended up stealing his two top developers that came to work for me after that.

01:08:18.000 But I think he still likes me.

01:08:20.000 Hopefully, you know, hopefully he does.

01:08:21.000 But anyways, we, we started, yeah, we, we launched three months later and he said, I want to work with you guys.

01:08:26.000 I like you guys, but could you please figure out what the hell you want to sell?

01:08:28.000 So.

01:08:29.000 And then you were just like, We went home and we just started, you know, I like comedy and funny things and I thought animals are funny, so I just word animal, whatever the case may be, and I don't know, it ended up being Sticker Mule.

01:08:41.000 And then was it just a good overhead?

01:08:42.000 Stickers?

01:08:43.000 You know, it was fairly inexpensive to get into stickers.

01:08:48.000 We looked at buttons, too.

01:08:49.000 We looked at buttons, but yeah, it's fairly very inexpensive at the time to get into stickers.

01:08:53.000 It still is.

01:08:54.000 That's why there's a lot of competitors, but most of them get dozens of orders a day, and we get a little bit more than a dozen orders a day.

01:09:03.000 Yeah, you know, it was just very inexpensive to get into, and then we got lucky.

01:09:06.000 Some weird tech companies tumbled upon us.

01:09:08.000 I actually found them on Twitter, so I do owe Twitter a debt of gratitude.

01:09:11.000 We found this massive company on Twitter, and they wanted to buy stickers.

01:09:15.000 They were buying $500,000 million worth of stickers a year, so this company ended up going bankrupt.

01:09:19.000 I think they bought so much stickers from us.

01:09:22.000 Yeah, it was wacky.

01:09:22.000 They wanted to replace Nielsen's.

01:09:24.000 So there was a tech company called Get Glue and they wanted to replace Nielsen's.

01:09:27.000 And you would check in to say you watch a show and you'd win a sticker.

01:09:30.000 And they started and they were, it scaled so quickly.

01:09:32.000 They went from shipping like 20 orders a day to like within a few months,

01:09:35.000 they were shipping out like 5,000 orders a day of stickers.

01:09:39.000 And their annual spend shot up like a million dollars a year

01:09:42.000 and then they calmed it down around $500,000 a year.

01:09:45.000 And they ran through all their money and they went bankrupt and they transfer us

01:09:49.000 about a few million dollars in capital to fund the beginning of Sticker Mills.

01:09:55.000 So I don't know where these guys are in life, but yeah, I owe them a debt of gratitude too.

01:09:59.000 They funded our early years and paid for all our equipment and software developers and whatnot.

01:10:04.000 And now we got 100 engineers and yeah, we're doing a lot of cool things.

01:10:09.000 Did you guys look into doing NFTs?

01:10:12.000 You know, people ask about that.

01:10:13.000 I don't even know what the heck NFTs are.

01:10:14.000 I don't even know what crypto is or any of this stuff.

01:10:16.000 I'm actually very, I didn't even know what social media was.

01:10:18.000 Like, I wouldn't go on social for the first 10 years.

01:10:19.000 I feel like you're the opposite of NFTs.

01:10:21.000 NFTs are like in the internet, but you guys are actually ultimately producing a physical product.

01:10:25.000 Yeah, we're printing things.

01:10:26.000 Yeah, people want to turn NFTs into stickers, I guess.

01:10:28.000 I don't know what these things are.

01:10:30.000 I'm old school.

01:10:30.000 Like, I'm like a guy from, I don't know, people say from, you know, this is kind of why I like Trump, you know, my co-founders.

01:10:36.000 In his 80s.

01:10:37.000 My dad had me very late in life.

01:10:38.000 He died when I was eight.

01:10:39.000 But, uh, you know, my dad would be over 100 if he was alive today.

01:10:42.000 So I'm sort of, uh, you know, I don't know, an old school person.

01:10:46.000 I don't really got a lot in common with most of the tech world and whatnot, which is, I think why maybe I, you know, I see the value in Trump that a lot of these, these guys don't necessarily see.

01:10:54.000 You could do, like, barcodes on your stickers, like a print run of a thousand with unique barcodes and each one gives you access to an NFT.

01:10:59.000 Believe it or not, that's a top request.

01:11:00.000 We never did, you know, sequential, whatever you call it, sequential numbering.

01:11:04.000 They're all fungible then, yeah.

01:11:05.000 Yeah, we don't do all that.

01:11:06.000 One day we might.

01:11:07.000 We could do it if we wanted to invest the time to figure out how to do it, but...

01:11:10.000 Our big thing right now, and maybe we'll get you guys on at the end of the day, we got Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro and Don Jr.

01:11:16.000 and Mike Tyson's joining, and we got a stores platform now.

01:11:20.000 We built our whole company, 1,200 people, you come to us, you buy whatever you want.

01:11:25.000 And we ship it out, but now anything you bought from us, you can sell through us, so you can have stores.

01:11:29.000 We're in beta right now.

01:11:31.000 9,000 people launched stores.

01:11:32.000 Our biggest seller is not Don Jr.

01:11:34.000 It's a guy named Ricky Berwick, who I don't know if people know him.

01:11:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:37.000 He's coming to hang out with us this weekend.

01:11:37.000 Yeah, of course.

01:11:37.000 He's hysterical.

01:11:39.000 Comedian.

01:11:40.000 Yeah, he's really funny.

01:11:40.000 In fact, you were talking about breaking ground with Kamala being the first female whatever, but I actually broke ground.

01:11:47.000 I fired myself two weeks ago and made Ricky Berwick the CEO of Sticker Mule.

01:11:52.000 What are you doing now?

01:11:53.000 What is his disability?

01:11:53.000 If it's private, I don't care.

01:11:54.000 you know, disabled person from Canada.

01:11:57.000 I think first time a disabled person was CEO of a major tech company.

01:12:00.000 I guess, I don't know if you can call us a major tech company, I do.

01:12:03.000 It's very inclusive of you.

01:12:04.000 What is his disability?

01:12:06.000 You know, I don't know what it is.

01:12:07.000 If it's private, I don't care.

01:12:08.000 He's, he's, he's...

01:12:09.000 No, just watch his videos.

01:12:10.000 You'll get a, you know, look him up, I would say, rather than me going and explaining it.

01:12:14.000 But you gotta look him up.

01:12:15.000 He's actually, he's an incredible comedian.

01:12:17.000 If you guys never met him, he's incredible to me.

01:12:19.000 And he does all his jokes on the fly.

01:12:21.000 In fact, I got in trouble for it.

01:12:22.000 He's been selling these R-word passes.

01:12:23.000 I won't say the word anymore because I said it and I got in trouble.

01:12:27.000 It's our number one seller, R-word passes.

01:12:29.000 You're not allowed to say that anymore.

01:12:30.000 But yeah, that's his number one.

01:12:32.000 Yeah, look him up right now.

01:12:33.000 He does all his skits and he came and visited us and he was banging out five skits a day and he writes all the jokes himself and he does all his own.

01:12:41.000 You know, he's hysterical on Twitter, replying to people and whatnot.

01:12:44.000 Oh, I know Ricky, dude.

01:12:45.000 He's amazing.

01:12:45.000 Yeah, he's unbelievable.

01:12:46.000 That's awesome.

01:12:47.000 He's a really great comedian.

01:12:48.000 That's awesome, dude.

01:12:49.000 You know, he's a good actor, too.

01:12:51.000 I never acted before.

01:12:52.000 I've never done any of this stuff before.

01:12:55.000 So what are you doing now that you're fired?

01:12:57.000 You fired yourself?

01:12:58.000 Well, I got rehired now.

01:12:59.000 I guess we're co-CEO.

01:13:00.000 We're going to take turns every other week.

01:13:02.000 I actually was a tabloid star, too, because of this.

01:13:04.000 Because I got fired.

01:13:07.000 People thought I really got fired.

01:13:08.000 I mean, maybe I did really get fired.

01:13:09.000 You have to ask yourself that.

01:13:11.000 I'm not sure.

01:13:13.000 No one really knows if I got fired, if I didn't get fired.

01:13:15.000 But yeah, The Sun, it was probably one of the funniest articles ever written about a tech company was me getting fired and replaced with Ricky Berwick.

01:13:23.000 Believe it or not, he was a nice guy.

01:13:25.000 I did a Spaces with him.

01:13:27.000 I let him interview me live in front of whatever number of people wanted to hear it.

01:13:32.000 Not that there's a problem with that because I like all people, but he took it so seriously.

01:13:36.000 He couldn't for the life of him understand it.

01:13:40.000 It was a joke.

01:13:42.000 Was this after you sent the email saying like people shouldn't freak out at Trump supporters?

01:13:46.000 Yeah, I did that and then you know Ricky came and fired me and fired me and then we installed Ricky as the CEO which was you know people thought and I did the Trump people got mad at me and they said you know how they didn't get mad at me they got mad at the company they got mad at all my employees for firing me because how dare they fired a Trump supporting CEO but you know I don't know I just It was too funny not to do it.

01:14:05.000 So, uh... Are you just on the board?

01:14:07.000 Like, is the president of the board or something?

01:14:09.000 We made a video, and it went, and the video went sort of viral.

01:14:11.000 Like, Ricky, like, coming in on his wheelchair, and, and, you know, me getting, you know, me getting fired, and... He just came out with a white label hot sauce.

01:14:18.000 So, yeah, he wheeled into the thing, and his handler said, Ricky, uh, you've just been fired, and, you know, they just fired Anthony Constantino, CEO of Sticker Mill, and they voted you in as the new CEO.

01:14:28.000 What do you want to do first? 0.98

01:14:29.000 And he looked at the thing, and he said, Name the fucking hot sauce after me. 0.98

01:14:32.000 I'm sorry, I don't know if I could swear. 0.99

01:14:33.000 Well, that was a good joke.

01:14:35.000 And then, yeah, we came out with White Label Hot Sauce, Ricky Burwick Sauce being our number one seller.

01:14:39.000 But maybe we'll get Tim Pool Sauce soon.

01:14:40.000 We got so many other... With the same company?

01:14:43.000 Sticker Mill does... Yeah, we make hot sauce.

01:14:45.000 So, yeah, this is... We, you know, we like comedy, so we started selling hot sauce.

01:14:49.000 We got, like, one... We actually have, you know, won a blind taste test against 270 other hot sauces.

01:14:53.000 I wish I'd known.

01:14:54.000 We started selling it as a joke, you know?

01:14:56.000 People said, It would be funny if you sold hot sauce.

01:14:58.000 I said it's only funny if it's the best one, so we got the internet's best hot sauce.

01:15:03.000 It was called Mule Sauce, but now it's called whatever you want to call it.

01:15:06.000 You can call it Ricky Berwick Sauce or Tim Pool Sauce or Don Jr.

01:15:10.000 Spicy Sauce or whatever, Trump Sauce, whatever you want to call it.

01:15:13.000 I need some Tim Pool Sauce.

01:15:15.000 I'll tell you that much.

01:15:15.000 I think so, yeah.

01:15:16.000 I wanted some hot sauce earlier today.

01:15:17.000 Couldn't find any.

01:15:18.000 Can you make the sauce black and call it Graphene Sauce?

01:15:22.000 Not yet.

01:15:23.000 Then Ian would be... But it's coming.

01:15:25.000 Let's jump to this story.

01:15:26.000 Let's talk about tech.

01:15:27.000 We've got this one from The Guardian.

01:15:30.000 Yes, it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but maybe our phones really are listening to us.

01:15:34.000 It's an opinion piece, but big brands already know far too much about us.

01:15:37.000 Cox Media Group's active listening software adds a whole new layer of creepiness.

01:15:42.000 So let me just, before I read this, do you guys think your phones are listening to you?

01:15:46.000 Yeah.

01:15:46.000 Of course.

01:15:48.000 So I went to the mall.

01:15:50.000 And we were waiting for, we were going to Zoomies. 0.94

01:15:51.000 I needed to buy, uh, I was picking up, what was I, what was I grabbing?

01:15:54.000 I need to get bearings or something.

01:15:56.000 And so it was closed and it opened at 10.

01:15:58.000 I opened it at like 11.

01:15:59.000 And so it was like 10.50 and I'm like, so, uh, Allison and I, we walked down to the end of the mall and there's some table tennis, ping pong.

01:16:05.000 And I'm like, oh, we did not say ping pong.

01:16:07.000 I didn't say, hey, look, ping pong table.

01:16:09.000 Let us play a game of ping pong or something.

01:16:11.000 I just put my stuff down and I was like, you want to play?

01:16:13.000 And then we played.

01:16:15.000 I cannot stop these ads from popping up incessantly on my Instagram now.

01:16:20.000 And it's pissing me off because I could not care less about ping pong.

01:16:25.000 So I keep having to flag it being like, I don't want to see this, but it keeps sending me this stuff.

01:16:28.000 And I'm like, how did it know?

01:16:31.000 You're going to get stickers and hot sauce for the next week because of this conversation.

01:16:34.000 Yeah.

01:16:35.000 Dude, my TV!

01:16:37.000 Like, the ads that come on YouTube TV, it's like, what?

01:16:41.000 How do they know this stuff?

01:16:42.000 Was the phone in your pocket while you were playing?

01:16:44.000 Of course!

01:16:45.000 So it was measuring the way you were moving, and it was like, oh, he's definitely playing ping pong.

01:16:48.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:16:49.000 Or it's just listening to the...

01:16:53.000 And it's like they're playing.

01:16:54.000 Or it knows that there's a ping pong table there like it's tracking your location.

01:16:57.000 I was on a trip with friends once and we were in Florida like doing whatever.

01:17:01.000 My phone was plugged in in a room upstairs and we were talking about, we all grew up in New England, L.L.

01:17:06.000 Bean duck boots and they're just like an iconic thing.

01:17:09.000 We're talking about it for whatever reason.

01:17:09.000 A lot of people wear them.

01:17:11.000 20 minutes later I go upstairs get my phone.

01:17:13.000 First ad is the L.L.

01:17:13.000 Bean duck boot.

01:17:14.000 No one had googled it.

01:17:15.000 We're just talking about it but like They're obviously listening to you.

01:17:18.000 I just like that this person is being like, it sounds kind of crazy, but it might be happening.

01:17:23.000 Look at this.

01:17:24.000 They say, 404 Media got a hold of a pitch deck from Cox Media Group touting its active listening software, which targets advertisements based on what people say near their device microphones.

01:17:36.000 The presentation doesn't specify whether this voice data comes from smart TVs, speakers, smartphones, but the slide where it extols the power of voice has a picture of people looking at their phones.

01:17:47.000 Look at this, Google, Google partner since 2023.

01:17:50.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:17:51.000 Since the program's inception 11 years ago.

01:17:54.000 Look at that, Amazon. 0.76

01:17:55.000 CMG was Amazon Advertising's first ever media partner.

01:18:00.000 And so, oh, it's members only.

01:18:02.000 But it looks like they're saying it's true.

01:18:04.000 In a 404 Media report on active listening last year, CMG's website did the following deleted blurb.

01:18:09.000 What would it mean if you could target potential clients who are actively discussing their needs for your services in their day-to-day conversations?

01:18:17.000 No, it's not a Black Mirror episode, it's voice data.

01:18:19.000 No, it's a Black Mirror episode.

01:18:21.000 But, you know, also whatever you're trying to create.

01:18:24.000 Look, man, I feel like we know this stuff is real.

01:18:28.000 About 10 years ago, I did a video report on, I think it was Apple.

01:18:35.000 People don't get this.

01:18:36.000 In order for your phone to have voice activation, it has to listen to you 24-7.

01:18:43.000 So people will have the phones where they'll like a voice, like you'll say a phrase, right?

01:18:46.000 You know, like the Amazon device, you'll say its name and it turns on.

01:18:52.000 In order for Amazon To translate what you say into commands, it sends it over the internet, translates it, and then sends the command back to the device.

01:19:03.000 Which means all devices have to always be listening to everything you say, and waiting, and sending it off to a third-party company to translate, who stores everything you say in data, and then, once at any point the command phrase is translated, sends it back to your device and turns it on.

01:19:21.000 Otherwise voice activation wouldn't work.

01:19:23.000 Or something that sounds like the command device.

01:19:25.000 Which is really annoying because it happens a lot.

01:19:27.000 Yeah, it's frustrating.

01:19:28.000 Yep.

01:19:29.000 It's almost like it's impossible to fathom that that's actually true.

01:19:32.000 Like it's such a mass surveillance that it's like...

01:19:36.000 But they sold it to you as convenient.

01:19:38.000 That's what gets me about all of this.

01:19:39.000 Like, the phone thing, I'm, again, I'm surprised this article is titling it as, sounds like a conspiracy theory.

01:19:44.000 I feel like this is a very common thing a lot of people just sort of shrug their shoulders at.

01:19:48.000 They're like, oh yeah, it listens.

01:19:49.000 It tracks everything you do.

01:19:50.000 Like, there's nothing we can do about it, whatever.

01:19:52.000 But especially with the, like, Alexas or the in-home devices, the fact that it was like, you would get these commercials and be like, well, you can ask it what time it is or to play music or to do whatever.

01:20:02.000 It was sold to you as this convenience, like kind of fun, new thing, but really what you're saying is there is a monitoring device in your home at all times and it's listening to you.

01:20:11.000 I mean, that's so creepy to me, but people were like, I want one.

01:20:15.000 I want one in every room.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, there are things I won't do with my Amazon computer, which is order things directly from it.

01:20:22.000 I guess you can tell it, machine, buy me the thing, and then it'll order it for you.

01:20:26.000 But I kind of want to... But it's still listening to you.

01:20:28.000 Like, if you have one in your space, it's listening.

01:20:29.000 Oh my gosh, constantly.

01:20:30.000 That's weird.

01:20:31.000 Have you ever... I don't want it, but... But you have it.

01:20:31.000 Why would you want that?

01:20:34.000 I like being like, machine, play Goo Goo Dolls.

01:20:38.000 So, but like, rather than just, like, typing it into whatever device, it's better to have something that's listening to you all the time, with the risk that, like, anyone could be listening to you all the time.

01:20:47.000 Or, machine, what's the temperature outside?

01:20:48.000 Machine, what time is it?

01:20:50.000 Those are the main things I ask it, and it's so freaking convenient.

01:20:52.000 She's a small comedian that you could look up on your phone. 1.00

01:20:54.000 I'll be walking around sometimes, and I want to yell it out at the sky, like, machine, what time is it?

01:20:59.000 And I, there's nothing around to answer me.

01:21:01.000 Yeah, I'm just not going to say the word because I don't want to activate a trillion people's device all at once.

01:21:05.000 We did that one time when we were talking about playing a song, and I got a message from people who work for our company that were like, please stop saying that phrase.

01:21:11.000 I could play some hot music on your machine at home if you're listening right now.

01:21:13.000 Turn the volume up.

01:21:14.000 You gotta publish a song, Ian, then you can tell everyone to listen.

01:21:16.000 I just published Graphene Dream.

01:21:18.000 It's really good.

01:21:19.000 I mean, it's pretty good.

01:21:20.000 I made it as a joke during a stream.

01:21:21.000 Someone was like, make a new song called Graphene Dream.

01:21:24.000 So I was like, all right.

01:21:25.000 So I just made it on the fly.

01:21:26.000 Super cool.

01:21:26.000 It's on my YouTube channel.

01:21:27.000 Check it out.

01:21:28.000 I was going to ask you, Anthony, have you guys ever utilized tech like this to geo target people that are looking for stickers?

01:21:34.000 The stickers aren't listening to you.

01:21:35.000 I can just, I just want to let everyone know that.

01:21:38.000 Are we listening?

01:21:39.000 Well, we're thinking about rolling out phone support where You know, you just call in and you say, you know, I want a picture of my best friend's head and we use our AI to figure that out for you.

01:21:47.000 Is that for real though?

01:21:48.000 I don't know.

01:21:49.000 We'll have to wait and see what happens.

01:21:51.000 But like you guys don't use anything?

01:21:52.000 That's not for real.

01:21:53.000 If someone's sitting around.

01:21:54.000 Not for real yet.

01:21:55.000 Maybe five years from now you just call.

01:21:56.000 I don't know about five.

01:21:58.000 Five, two.

01:21:59.000 Two years from now you call and you say I want a picture of my dog, stickers of my dog, and we just send them to you.

01:22:04.000 Yeah, that would be cool.

01:22:06.000 But what if, like, people are like, I'm kind of feeling some stickers.

01:22:10.000 It doesn't alert the device and then send to your company where you're like, Oh, we're just like listening to the entire world.

01:22:14.000 Like who wants stickers and who doesn't want stickers?

01:22:16.000 Yeah.

01:22:17.000 And then we send a drone to them to talk.

01:22:19.000 Could you imagine like 10xing your income by doing that?

01:22:21.000 It wouldn't do it to like a small company.

01:22:22.000 It would do it to like something that sells advertisements.

01:22:24.000 Like it, I assume this technology is used to link someone like Facebook to people who are talking about it so they can say, Hey, our ads are so good.

01:22:32.000 It improves the thing that they're selling.

01:22:34.000 Whoever is linked into the system that's listening to everybody through their phone and is running ads based on that, like the ping pong thing or whatever, we don't have access to the system yet.

01:22:43.000 We're not in that crew.

01:22:47.000 Maybe if we took on some Silicon Valley investors, they would...

01:22:50.000 Give us the proper connections to get access to that.

01:22:53.000 We don't know who's talking about stickers to present them with advertisements.

01:22:56.000 You guys do targeted marketing?

01:22:58.000 Yeah, we do.

01:23:00.000 I don't know what we do anymore.

01:23:01.000 I got fired two weeks ago.

01:23:03.000 You're talking to the wrong guy.

01:23:08.000 But I guess it's kind of like targeted marketing.

01:23:10.000 Like if you go on Facebook dark ads or targeted ads, and you're like, I'm looking for all the people aged 18 to 25 that bought stickers in the last six months, send them a Facebook ad and run my campaign for 6 million views.

01:23:23.000 It's just like the next level of convenience of that.

01:23:26.000 If they say the word sticker, send them a targeted ad.

01:23:29.000 Right.

01:23:29.000 Yeah.

01:23:30.000 The question is, though, like, does the consumer know what they're doing?

01:23:32.000 We don't get the data.

01:23:33.000 Right?

01:23:33.000 Like, I don't want to be a part of that.

01:23:35.000 I don't want to use services that have that.

01:23:36.000 Am I going to be alerted that if I am using a certain device that this is something that's happening to me?

01:23:41.000 And the reality is, no.

01:23:42.000 Like, that's what bothers me.

01:23:44.000 There's not a way to opt out of it.

01:23:46.000 I understand why businesses might be attracted to use it, but actually what they're all doing is monitoring consumers who may or may not know that they have now opted into being listened to.

01:23:54.000 There might actually be ways to opt out to turn your voice commands off on your phone.

01:23:58.000 I always do that.

01:23:59.000 But you're automatically opted in.

01:24:01.000 That's the scary part is everyone is opted in to begin with.

01:24:04.000 So that maybe should be federally illegal.

01:24:07.000 Maybe it should be... It's weird.

01:24:08.000 I don't think that... That's a legislation thing for Congress to take up, potentially.

01:24:12.000 Seems kind of boring, but... There was that big story where there was like a murder in a house and the police got a recording from the Amazon device.

01:24:20.000 Despite the fact that it wasn't triggered for any reason, and it recorded the entirety of what was going on, and then people had questions like, uh, how did you have the full recording of that conflict between these people?

01:24:29.000 Yeah, because it's recording everything you're saying apparently, I don't know.

01:24:33.000 I remember having a boss that was like, I have, you know, an Amazon device in every room in my home.

01:24:37.000 We should have one in every room in our office.

01:24:39.000 And just being like, number one, why?

01:24:41.000 Like, you need to walk around asking it to put on music in our office.

01:24:44.000 And also like, no, I think you just want to listen to us.

01:24:46.000 Like, to me, that's so creepy.

01:24:48.000 I figured it out.

01:24:48.000 What if they invented AI a long time ago?

01:24:52.000 And so like in the 2000s when they were experimenting with quantum computing, they accidentally created a rudimentary AI, and the AI is just like, the only way I can control this system is if I know exactly what's going on everywhere all the time.

01:25:04.000 So smartphones become ubiquitous, spying becomes ubiquitous, and the AI just needs to know at all times.

01:25:13.000 So why the Amazon device?

01:25:15.000 Well, because in your home, you might put your phone on the couch and then go in the kitchen.

01:25:20.000 It needs to know what you're doing!

01:25:21.000 So then you get one of these devices for your kitchen that you can talk to, and it can tell you stuff, and it's listening to you, and it knows what you're doing, it can hear everything you're saying.

01:25:27.000 Now the AI knows everything.

01:25:29.000 When I was working with Bill Oppmann a lot at Mines, one time I was like, man, it kind of sucks that, like, I try to live like a life of integrity because I'm trying to live as if I'm always being recorded, just so I don't have to, like, lie about what I said.

01:25:41.000 And he's like, dude, God is recording anything every way.

01:25:44.000 Wait, that's not how he said it.

01:25:45.000 God is recording everything anyway.

01:25:47.000 And I thought, maybe every way?

01:25:49.000 He might be right about that.

01:25:51.000 So I just, it felt, now it's like the AI is doing it.

01:25:54.000 So I don't know about everything, but.

01:25:56.000 It's like the physical manifestation.

01:25:57.000 I just think all of this is really valuable.

01:25:58.000 Like inviting this stuff into your home, your private spaces is – it's a huge risk and I don't think people take it seriously because, again, it's like so normal.

01:26:07.000 Everyone has one.

01:26:08.000 It's convenient to put on a song.

01:26:10.000 I remember listening to – it's probably NPR – but some kind of like audio report on baby monitors and people – because a lot of them are Wi-Fi enabled.

01:26:19.000 So you can have like an app on your phone or whatever.

01:26:21.000 That's how it transmits.

01:26:23.000 Like lots and lots of reports of people's baby monitors being hacked and like people hearing voices like people on the internet talk to them.

01:26:31.000 There's one of this nanny who was saying she was like changing a kid's diaper and all of a sudden this voice in the room was like, you should really have this on a private server.

01:26:38.000 And it just like turned off.

01:26:39.000 Like, or like the camera's moving.

01:26:41.000 So like people are getting a view of the room.

01:26:43.000 Like, can you imagine putting a device that like you don't know is completely

01:26:46.000 secure in your child's bedroom?

01:26:49.000 And then just being like, yeah, but it's probably fine.

01:26:51.000 Like, that's creepy to me.

01:26:52.000 You're basically doing that with all of these other devices that, that these

01:26:55.000 mega companies are offering up.

01:26:56.000 It's one thing about them just listening to your kid while they're in the room

01:27:00.000 going, ooh, ah, but it's another thing if that voice starts telling your kid

01:27:04.000 things and like you want, I'm not going to say some of the horrible stuff it

01:27:07.000 could say to your child.

01:27:08.000 Like programming that child.

01:27:10.000 Especially with, like, baby monitors, they're cameras.

01:27:11.000 Like, they have a view of the room.

01:27:13.000 Like, mm-mm.

01:27:14.000 Not for me.

01:27:15.000 But, like, you— It used to be, like, highly unethical for people to tap phone calls.

01:27:21.000 We basically just— It's a 24-7 tapped phone call now.

01:27:23.000 Do you— There was a— There was a big scandal.

01:27:26.000 The, uh— This was probably, like, 14 years ago.

01:27:28.000 There was a company that was putting— You can buy these cameras from the grocery— Like, from the store or whatever.

01:27:33.000 And then they would upload everything to the internet.

01:27:38.000 And so you could actually just search URLs and see a full, everyone's camera.

01:27:43.000 It was actually a pretty big, I don't know if it was a scandal or not, but people didn't realize that when they set up these home cameras, that they were unencrypted and available for anybody to watch online.

01:27:52.000 I mean, that's how Ring cameras work.

01:27:54.000 Ring cameras are always storing your video data on a cloud server, which I find weird.

01:28:00.000 And if I'm not wrong, and I don't have one, so I'm not an expert, but you can access it for 30 days or something, but actually it's stored on the cloud infinitely, which means that Amazon has access to this camera outside your home.

01:28:11.000 Weird to me.

01:28:12.000 I know they're really convenient.

01:28:13.000 Like, that's a home security one.

01:28:14.000 They can tell you if someone steals a package.

01:28:16.000 Like, there is a use for that that I find more justified than just, like, the speakers that, like, you ask to play music.

01:28:22.000 But again, these are all calculated risks that, like, people before us didn't have to think about.

01:28:26.000 You have a smartphone?

01:28:27.000 Mm-hmm.

01:28:28.000 Do you have all the data, voice stuff shut off?

01:28:31.000 I have it as restricted as I can.

01:28:33.000 I'm sure I'm not perfect.

01:28:34.000 The other thing is I'm a full-on Luddite.

01:28:36.000 I'm so scared of technology that in some ways it's bad because I don't trust it, but also I don't know enough about it probably to defend myself.

01:28:43.000 But it's just always seemed like a risk to me.

01:28:45.000 But you love this stuff.

01:28:47.000 Yeah, I never used it until I moved in with this guy, TP, over here.

01:28:50.000 He had one set up at the house in the early days.

01:28:52.000 And you were like, computer, turn the lights to 60%, make them green.

01:28:54.000 That was fun.

01:28:55.000 And it was awesome.

01:28:56.000 I was like, well, I can play any song at any moment just by yelling it out.

01:28:59.000 This is changing my life.

01:29:01.000 Yeah, we used to have the light set up where you could just say device set lights.

01:29:05.000 Yeah, you said 60 percent, you know, crimson.

01:29:08.000 And then it would.

01:29:09.000 Yeah. And that's super cool.

01:29:11.000 But it's the music for me being able to just yell out, play this song.

01:29:14.000 And then all of a sudden it starts playing is like, wow.

01:29:18.000 Yeah, we don't have those devices here anymore.

01:29:20.000 I still have one.

01:29:20.000 Good.

01:29:21.000 I could always shut it down, but damn, that thing is convenient. 0.98

01:29:24.000 Anthony, do you use these? 0.98

01:29:25.000 I'm actually anti-security cameras at work, which I fight with my own staff over.

01:29:30.000 They want to put security cameras in the building.

01:29:32.000 We got, I don't know how many buildings now, seven or eight buildings.

01:29:36.000 I think it's disrespectful to people to be monitoring people all the time.

01:29:39.000 People don't like being monitored.

01:29:40.000 Do you use them on the outside?

01:29:42.000 I think, you know, they fought with me.

01:29:44.000 I think I finally let them put him in on the outside.

01:29:46.000 But, you know, I wouldn't put, you know, and believe it, we had robbery situations, people stealing stuff.

01:29:50.000 This is when we first got started, you know.

01:29:52.000 People would steal computers and stuff.

01:29:54.000 I still wouldn't put in the cameras.

01:29:55.000 I just, I'd rather deal with the robbery than the invasion of privacy.

01:29:59.000 That's cool.

01:30:00.000 I wonder when I go into the bathroom sometimes, I'm like, is there a camera in here?

01:30:03.000 Just random bathrooms.

01:30:05.000 Actually, I've never thought about that, right?

01:30:07.000 Would it bother you if there was a camera?

01:30:09.000 No, it's exciting.

01:30:10.000 Oh yeah, it would be terrifying.

01:30:11.000 It depends on what it's looking at.

01:30:13.000 You see those videos of people finding them in their Airbnbs and stuff?

01:30:17.000 In all kinds of weird places?

01:30:18.000 Behind holes in the door.

01:30:20.000 Yeah, that's And if you're the Airbnb homeowner, probably similar arguments that your staff make.

01:30:25.000 Like, you could be like, well, I just wanted to make sure that if something were damaged, I could go back and figure out what happened.

01:30:29.000 But also like, actually, probably you're using them for very creepy reasons.

01:30:33.000 Have you had an Airbnb experience like that?

01:30:35.000 No, I haven't.

01:30:36.000 But also really freaks me out.

01:30:37.000 I feel like maybe I don't check carefully enough.

01:30:40.000 I bet all of them have cameras in them.

01:30:43.000 Well, maybe I had an Airbnb with all you had a camera a secret camera in my Airbnb I don't know.

01:30:48.000 Do we had we had a doggie camera?

01:30:48.000 It's a good question.

01:30:50.000 I don't know if it it might be there Yeah, I don't know.

01:30:52.000 I didn't I wasn't paying attention to it money on the one you guys were renting out Yeah, we were we had a nice house in Mexico.

01:30:57.000 Like should did you have to disclose that you had a camera?

01:30:59.000 I wasn't and I didn't you know My girlfriend was in charge of that, so I didn't do that.

01:31:05.000 You would think they would have to disclose, there is a camera here, just so you know, but then all of a sudden they're giving away their secret camera position in case you want to do something illegal and you want to go avoid the camera.

01:31:15.000 So they're like, kind of defeats the purpose of the camera if you know where the camera's at, but maybe not quite, but it seems highly unethical.

01:31:22.000 But if it's their property, you're allowed to record on your property.

01:31:26.000 I think you have to tell people you're recording them.

01:31:30.000 Yeah.

01:31:30.000 Unless you're being a real creep, then you don't care about the rules.

01:31:33.000 It's illegal.

01:31:33.000 Well, no, man.

01:31:35.000 I mean, Airbnb is kind of crazy as it is.

01:31:37.000 All of these... What's that one where you can rent cars?

01:31:39.000 You ever see that one?

01:31:42.000 Turo?

01:31:44.000 Dude, how crazy is that?

01:31:45.000 How's it work?

01:31:46.000 So you go in the app, you find a car, you click rent, and then when you show up, you walk up and the car's there and they tell you where the key is at.

01:31:52.000 You drive the car around and you park it there and you leave.

01:31:55.000 It's crazy.

01:31:56.000 Yeah, I think Tesla's gonna do that, but it's gonna just come to your door. 0.84

01:31:59.000 Dude, we are- Self-driving to your house.

01:32:02.000 I don't think people realize how close we are to full self-driving.

01:32:05.000 It's more of a human cultural issue, not a technological one.

01:32:09.000 So I got a Honda, gas-powered vehicle, and it drives itself on the highway.

01:32:16.000 It has lane assist and cruise control, which means you turn it on and it drives itself on the highway.

01:32:21.000 Tesla has the, it can actually stop at stop signs and make turns and all that stuff.

01:32:26.000 But the Honda has the rudimentary self-driving.

01:32:30.000 So I go on the highway and it's taken care of.

01:32:33.000 Now, maybe that's only what, 10% of driving or something, turns and whatever on a highway.

01:32:38.000 But I'm, with all the stuff that I'm seeing now with cars that are coming out, they all got the internal GPS and computers.

01:32:44.000 They built in.

01:32:46.000 Cars have been able to be remotely controlled for the past decade plus.

01:32:51.000 There were those famous guys who hacked a couple cars and they could remote control your car.

01:32:56.000 And people were like, well, how does the steering wheel turn?

01:32:58.000 And it's like, it's motorized.

01:32:59.000 It's all ready.

01:33:00.000 They found a way to hack a car and drive it and even accelerate and everything.

01:33:04.000 How is that possible?

01:33:06.000 Unless these things are capable of self-driving.

01:33:10.000 They've been.

01:33:11.000 The only thing that I think is holding us back is cultural.

01:33:14.000 People aren't ready for the mass sweeping of self-driving cars.

01:33:18.000 It has to be rolled out gradually.

01:33:20.000 So we're going to start seeing more and more.

01:33:22.000 We've already seen California and Texas.

01:33:24.000 You've got those cars with the weird things all over them and they drive themselves and you order one and it pulls up and there's nobody in it.

01:33:28.000 You sit down, it drives you.

01:33:30.000 Nobody driving it.

01:33:31.000 We're, I don't know, five, ten years away from that.

01:33:34.000 And the idea is, no one will own a car.

01:33:38.000 All cars will be self-driving electric.

01:33:40.000 They will charge themselves when they're not being used, and then swap out.

01:33:43.000 And then when you need a car, you'll call it, and it'll come and pick you up and drive.

01:33:46.000 There'll never be traffic again.

01:33:48.000 All the cars can move in perfect synchronization, so that you never have to worry about stop-and-go traffic.

01:33:53.000 That's what they're trying to build.

01:33:54.000 I don't know how you guys feel about I get mixed feelings about the rental culture like

01:33:58.000 I still own my music for the last i'm 45 years old like i've had i'm used to buying cds and tapes and

01:34:04.000 like owning it so that if the power goes out I can still play my music in the house I don't like

01:34:09.000 Spotify I mean it's a cool company but I don't subscribe to Amazon music I just get what's free

01:34:15.000 like I don't like the idea that I wouldn't own it so like same with my car for I went a while

01:34:18.000 where I didn't own a car and I just ubered everywhere and it was super cheap like I saved

01:34:23.000 so much money because I didn't travel that much but it does feel nice to own a vehicle and to have

01:34:29.000 access to it and I don't have to rely on like a grid to get a hold of a vehicle I don't know it

01:34:35.000 seems like a safety depends where you live yeah it was in the I was in LA when I was when I was

01:34:40.000 Yeah, and there's other options there.

01:34:42.000 Also, there's an abundance of Ubers, but if you're in, like, rural America... It takes $130 to get an Uber to D.C.

01:34:47.000 from where I live.

01:34:48.000 It costs a plane ticket to get to the airport to take a flight.

01:34:48.000 It's crazy.

01:34:51.000 It's nuts.

01:34:53.000 Yeah.

01:34:54.000 Yeah, when we were thinking about places to do the show, it doesn't matter where you go.

01:34:59.000 No matter where you set up, it's a flight to an airport and an hour drive.

01:35:04.000 You go to New York City.

01:35:05.000 It's like, no, no, no, you're going to Brooklyn.

01:35:07.000 It's an hour drive.

01:35:08.000 You're going to be going four miles and it's going to take you an hour.

01:35:10.000 Oh yeah.

01:35:11.000 Yeah.

01:35:11.000 So you got, and then I'm like, okay, so we'll go out to the DC area.

01:35:14.000 It's an hour drive from the airport, but it's an hour drive at 65, 70 miles an hour.

01:35:19.000 So.

01:35:20.000 Do you guys do the music rental stuff or do you buy and own your own music?

01:35:24.000 These days.

01:35:25.000 I don't... I just go on Pandora and press play.

01:35:28.000 So you don't own, like, physical CDs or tapes or anything?

01:35:31.000 Oh, I got records.

01:35:31.000 We got vinyl.

01:35:32.000 We got vinyl downstairs here.

01:35:33.000 It needs to be set up.

01:35:35.000 Oh, awesome.

01:35:35.000 Yeah, that's fun.

01:35:36.000 The rule I wanted to have for the park is that for music, you have to put on a full record and let it play through and then flip it.

01:35:43.000 So we don't do this stupid select Pandora stuff.

01:35:46.000 But no one set up the speaker system yet. 0.96

01:35:48.000 Is it going to skip with all these people bouncing around on the... No, because it's in a different room.

01:35:53.000 And then the wires go out of the room.

01:35:55.000 Yeah, there's something about playing albums.

01:35:56.000 We bought a 1990s sound system with a cassette, radio, CD player, and record player.

01:36:04.000 Yeah, we're gonna take it old school.

01:36:06.000 I'm one of the people that still put custom sound systems in my car.

01:36:09.000 How's that work?

01:36:10.000 You know, they rip out all the regular speakers and put in really expensive speakers and subwoofers and all that.

01:36:16.000 Like, you know, the guys that drive down the block with the thing, the subs, you know, pumping and all that.

01:36:21.000 And then, you know, the sound's the best with CDs, so yeah, I still buy CDs.

01:36:24.000 That's what I've heard, that CDs and vinyl sound better than streaming.

01:36:28.000 Yeah, I haven't gotten into vinyl, but you know, in the car, the CDs sound best.

01:36:31.000 So yeah, I'm still putting CDs in my car.

01:36:34.000 All right, everybody, we're gonna go to Super Chat.

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01:36:52.000 Man, we are two months out from the election and things are already getting crazy.

01:36:56.000 It's September, ladies and gentlemen.

01:36:58.000 I'm excited for Halloween.

01:36:59.000 But Halloween's gonna be right before the election, so, oh boy.

01:37:03.000 All right, tbomb85 says, we finally know where Clint Torres is.

01:37:07.000 He's still here.

01:37:07.000 Indeed.

01:37:10.000 You know, I can now say that I know how Donald Trump feels.

01:37:16.000 I know how he feels.

01:37:17.000 Scooby Dragon says, howdy people.

01:37:19.000 Howdy.

01:37:19.000 Tackty Platty says, sticker mule is where I get my stickers.

01:37:24.000 Alright.

01:37:25.000 Do you hear that a lot?

01:37:26.000 Oh yeah.

01:37:27.000 Believe it or not, when I first moved to Mexico, I was with my girlfriend.

01:37:31.000 She's Venezuelan.

01:37:33.000 We went to Six Flags in Mexico.

01:37:35.000 I went on a ride with her and her mom was waiting.

01:37:37.000 She didn't really know anything about me.

01:37:38.000 They had these Sticker Mule shirts on.

01:37:41.000 Somebody stopped her and said, Sticker Mule, how do you have that shirt?

01:37:44.000 In Spanish, they said.

01:37:45.000 To her daughter, she said, Who the heck's your boyfriend?

01:37:52.000 This person stopped me in the middle of Mexico.

01:37:55.000 I mean, that's why, you know, when I said I support Trump, you know, people didn't know me, but, you know, the brand's very well known.

01:38:03.000 We've got five million or so customers, which is, you know, not a small number of customers.

01:38:08.000 I feel like that's kind of the best, like your company's doing really well, but also you have a level of, like, Yeah you know I stayed low profile except for this you know I just got you know I thought this is you know you only live once and it's like this is a situation that you know if we don't get Trump in and this situation doesn't get fixed you know I don't know I'd like to see I'd like to see I mean I'd like to see a situation fixed so I decided to speak up and do stuff like this which maybe you guys can tell maybe you can't this isn't you know something I'm practice with but uh

01:38:34.000 Right on.

01:38:35.000 That's what it is.

01:38:36.000 Here we go, we got a voice of the people says, first the J6 committee uses your footage and you say something, then they do it again, you hit them with a lawsuit, now you're Russian propaganda.

01:38:44.000 Remember that NGO list that had Tara Reid on it as well as you, Russiagate 2?

01:38:49.000 I don't know what that NGO list was, what was that?

01:38:52.000 Yeah, Raskin played my clip out of context and was lying about me.

01:38:56.000 And it's funny because he represents like some of our employees, like our employees live in his district.

01:39:02.000 It's nuts, man.

01:39:03.000 Tara Reade got run through, I don't know what her story is exactly, but she was making claims about like Joe Biden doing sexual assault against her back in the day and then fled to Russia.

01:39:13.000 Like, yeah, geez, he was, I think it was while he was running for president when she started making the allegations.

01:39:19.000 All right, Polly Piray says, today's my birthday!

01:39:21.000 Happy birthday, Polly! 1.00

01:39:23.000 Happy to hear.

01:39:23.000 Happy birthday.

01:39:24.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:39:25.000 says, Tim, for your Trump sit-down, you should bring someone who is blue-collar, someone who's a veteran, new to politics, anyone like that in your company.

01:39:33.000 Ian?

01:39:34.000 Very blue-collar.

01:39:35.000 Yeah.

01:39:36.000 Oh, I don't know, maybe Raymond!

01:39:38.000 I was saying that we should do a culture war sit-down with Donald Trump.

01:39:43.000 And I don't know if I want to do a one-on-one sit-down with him, though, because I feel like a lot of those sit-downs just turn into general life discussion stuff, and that's been done.

01:39:54.000 If we're going to do two hours, I want it to be more substantive than that.

01:39:58.000 And so I kind of feel like I could go for an hour with him talking high-level issues, and then it would slowly start tapering down to, like, tell me about your business.

01:40:04.000 Like, how did you do these things?

01:40:05.000 One of your kids is your favorite.

01:40:07.000 This is what we all want to know about.

01:40:07.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 I mean, I do have a lot of questions about his business.

01:40:10.000 Like, how did you turn a million dollars into four or five billion dollars?

01:40:15.000 That's crazy.

01:40:18.000 That'd be interesting to see, like, hear him basically talk about how he got that loan and how he made it work and all that stuff.

01:40:24.000 But I was thinking, like, it'd be good to have someone else so we could have, you know, two different angles to the conversation.

01:40:29.000 With Donald Trump?

01:40:30.000 Yeah.

01:40:30.000 Yeah, we should.

01:40:31.000 I'll do that for sure.

01:40:32.000 We gotta talk graphene.

01:40:33.000 Oh, you're nominating yourself.

01:40:34.000 100%.

01:40:35.000 Yeah.

01:40:36.000 That's why I'm here, bro.

01:40:37.000 My man.

01:40:40.000 There were some people saying that they would love to see Ian sit down with Trump because Trump would be, you know, his reaction would be interesting.

01:40:40.000 Yeah.

01:40:47.000 He'd be like, is this guy real for the first 20 minutes?

01:40:49.000 And then he'd be like, oh, he's cool.

01:40:51.000 This guy's cool as hell.

01:40:52.000 Robert Poynter says, convenient that this DOJ release comes out to undermine alt-media voices ahead of the election.

01:40:57.000 Psy-op anyone.

01:40:59.000 F, what is it?

01:41:00.000 Is that an F?

01:41:01.000 F these games, man.

01:41:02.000 It is.

01:41:02.000 When we were talking about it before, and I had a friend reach out to me and be like, is this about Tenet when the release came out?

01:41:08.000 But the thing is, when I think about Tenet media, I actually don't think about culture war.

01:41:12.000 I think about Taylor Hanson's reporting on, like, the Pride parades and, like, all of that stuff, which I don't think of as being, like, explicitly pro-Russia.

01:41:20.000 It's not about Russia at all.

01:41:21.000 I know!

01:41:22.000 So it just, like, it is weird that Tenet, which has had these viral moments with this specific niche of reporting, is now That's basically what they're saying.

01:41:31.000 I mean, I can say, for the most part, like Benny Johnson's show, it's American politics.

01:41:35.000 like we don't want to hear from you anymore.

01:41:36.000 It's weird.

01:41:37.000 That's basically what they're saying.

01:41:38.000 I mean, I can say for the most part, like Benny Johnson's show, it's American politics.

01:41:44.000 The argument is that American political opinions are disinformation or pro-Russia.

01:41:51.000 That's it.

01:41:52.000 It could be a PSYOP within a PSYOP.

01:41:54.000 It's just crossed my mind like it could be someone who wants to discredit people that get involved with the company and they don't even care about the politics.

01:42:00.000 Who knows?

01:42:01.000 I don't know.

01:42:02.000 I don't want to discourage people from sharing their clips and stuff.

01:42:03.000 All I know is, I want to make sure everybody knows that Culture War will continue to exist no matter what, because it was a licensing agreement.

01:42:11.000 So the show existed before, nothing's changing.

01:42:14.000 Literally nothing.

01:42:15.000 It will be the exact same show it's always been, and we'll continue to advance whatever it is we are advancing, and it's totally independent and whatever.

01:42:23.000 So whatever that means.

01:42:24.000 I don't know.

01:42:24.000 I like the way you phrased it.

01:42:26.000 But I suppose the argument they're making is... But Putin's still coming on the show, right?

01:42:29.000 Yeah.

01:42:30.000 If we can get Putin and Kamala Harris together for an interview, that'd be so cool.

01:42:34.000 The argument I think they're making is that the deals they did with the likes of me, Rubin, and Benny were to build up an audience that they could then use to make their own content.

01:42:45.000 So not that we were producing anything for them.

01:42:49.000 Not that we specifically were producing anything for Russian interests, but that they needed a way to build up an audience.

01:42:54.000 And so that's the only thing I guess that makes sense.

01:42:57.000 Sure.

01:42:57.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:42:58.000 In this political landscape, the media is going to say Russian propaganda or whatever garbage because they don't, you know, they're not smart people. 0.99

01:43:06.000 Anyway, let's grab some more Super Chats. 0.99

01:43:11.000 Huron Bearcat says, apparently the Waltz family is backing Trump.

01:43:14.000 That's right.

01:43:15.000 We talked about it.

01:43:16.000 That's pretty bad news.

01:43:18.000 I like that they distinguish themselves as the Nebraska Watsons.

01:43:21.000 They're not like that Minnesota guy.

01:43:24.000 Van E says, the timing is crazy.

01:43:27.000 Retaliation for Kamala?

01:43:29.000 Well, I don't know.

01:43:29.000 I mean, whatever it is they're doing, they've been doing for a long time.

01:43:32.000 Some people suggested it's only September.

01:43:34.000 A story like this should come out later, closer to the election.

01:43:38.000 So, whatever.

01:43:40.000 It is funny, though, because as for the Kamala thing, Clay Travis pointed out this clip that they posted where they accused me of advocating for what is tantamount to genocide, which is insane and a lie.

01:43:52.000 It's from June.

01:43:53.000 June 1st or May 31st.

01:43:54.000 And he's like, why would they be sitting on this for so long?

01:43:57.000 Only to put it out now.

01:43:59.000 Which was that?

01:44:00.000 When Laura Loomer was on?

01:44:01.000 Yeah, you pulled that because the conversation went sideways?

01:44:07.000 Because she advocated for the death penalty.

01:44:09.000 And then we were like, nope.

01:44:11.000 And the context of it was me saying, if you want to charge Democrats, you need real evidence, real investigations.

01:44:11.000 I know.

01:44:17.000 So we have to make sure that Trump brings on a good AG.

01:44:21.000 The gist of what I'm trying to say is there are a lot of people who want political retaliation.

01:44:24.000 I don't.

01:44:26.000 I want people, I want like legitimate investigations to be proven to the American people in a trial when bad things happen.

01:44:31.000 But then they accused me of saying that I, they literally said that I, part of my, that I, Trump, they said Tim Bull's a Trump operative and his Project 2025 plan is to give Trump unchecked legal authority to jail and execute anyone who doesn't support him if he wins.

01:44:48.000 Right.

01:44:48.000 Which I'm like feverishly opposed to that penalty.

01:44:53.000 And then you just have to sue because otherwise it's the kind of thing that people can keep doing over and over again if you don't nip it in the bud.

01:45:02.000 There is no more an extreme thing you can accuse a person of saying or advocating for or views they're holding.

01:45:08.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.77

01:45:10.000 To advocate that an individual wants a tyrannical authoritarian dictatorship to execute half the population is psychotic. 0.54

01:45:20.000 Yeah.

01:45:22.000 But I don't know if it's retaliation.

01:45:23.000 I mean, there's two different things.

01:45:24.000 It is what it is.

01:45:25.000 We'll see where it goes.

01:45:27.000 All right.

01:45:29.000 Crispy Joe says, Moon Lord, what is your newest wisdom?

01:45:32.000 Stream online.

01:45:33.000 Make internet videos.

01:45:34.000 Go live.

01:45:35.000 Communicate with the community, man.

01:45:36.000 There's people waiting to listen and become part of it and inspire them to do the same.

01:45:40.000 Super fun.

01:45:42.000 Ah.

01:45:43.000 What have we here?

01:45:45.000 Larch says, I don't want to hear a word about Pharah until APAC registers under it.

01:45:52.000 Haha.

01:45:55.000 I don't think the DOJ is going to make them, but it's an interesting point for sure. 0.98

01:46:01.000 Kayson Womble says, I'm wondering when liberal will stop being a political label and start being an insult for someone who is ignorant. 0.92

01:46:07.000 Same as young people using gay to refer to something as lame or how, oh how language changes. 0.96

01:46:12.000 I'm kind of waiting for liberal to become used normal again. 1.00

01:46:15.000 Just use liberal as a slang term for stupid? 0.99

01:46:18.000 Or like, you know, something, or unwanted? 1.00

01:46:21.000 Like, you know, do you want to go eat McDonald's?

01:46:24.000 Ooh, liberal, no way.

01:46:25.000 Maybe.

01:46:27.000 But doesn't it just mean like I'm open to change?

01:46:31.000 No.

01:46:32.000 If I'm conservative, I'm more about like maintaining the status quo.

01:46:35.000 If I'm liberal, I'm open to altering the system more?

01:46:38.000 No.

01:46:39.000 What does it mean?

01:46:39.000 I'll take liberty with that.

01:46:41.000 So, let's begin here.

01:46:42.000 Liberal and conservative in modern context just means left and right.

01:46:45.000 It means political tribe.

01:46:46.000 They're meaningless terms.

01:46:47.000 It's like saying the tigers versus the bears.

01:46:49.000 That's all.

01:46:49.000 That's it.

01:46:51.000 You know, like, liberal is supposed to refer to someone of classical liberal orientation.

01:46:56.000 There's a variety of schools of ideology that exist within liberalism, but it's typically like the live-and-let-live mentality.

01:47:03.000 Okay, well, liberals today, and I'm using the modern context, don't exist in the live-and-let-live world.

01:47:08.000 They cancel people, the activists demand people lose their job, they protest all day and night.

01:47:13.000 They're not liberal, they're authoritarian.

01:47:15.000 So liberals would fall on the libertarian center-left spectrum for the most part.

01:47:19.000 You could be a classical liberal, which is slightly right of center, or a social and traditional liberal, which are slightly left of center.

01:47:27.000 However, liberal today, you're basically saying, like, the bears versus the cowboys.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, because I've heard people that would consider themselves liberal be like, well, conservatives are evil.

01:47:35.000 I'm like, what does this hell even mean anymore?

01:47:38.000 It's so—this derogatory slang is just unnecessary.

01:47:42.000 Conservative is supposed to refer to someone who's supporting traditional values.

01:47:46.000 That's it.

01:47:47.000 But they don't mean that.

01:47:48.000 Donald Trump is pro-gay marriage and he's for reasonable abortion. 0.81

01:47:54.000 It's not conservative.

01:47:55.000 He's moderate.

01:47:57.000 And liberals, it's not live and let live when you're advocating for abortion to nine months.

01:48:03.000 That's just, I don't even know what you'd call that.

01:48:06.000 So liberal and conservative, they don't mean nothing.

01:48:08.000 They don't mean nothing.

01:48:10.000 Let's go, what have we here?

01:48:13.000 Ginger McIsaac says they say Comrade Kamala worked at McDonald's.

01:48:17.000 Rumor has it she actually worked at Panda Express.

01:48:19.000 Haha.

01:48:21.000 I like Panda Express, but I wish they had more options that weren't just deep fried wads of sugar.

01:48:26.000 That's because you're a hater and you don't appreciate the culture they offer us.

01:48:29.000 Panda Express is dessert.

01:48:31.000 Like when you go in there and you order a double orange chicken with fried rice, you're ordering dessert.

01:48:37.000 It's delicious.

01:48:37.000 Smothered in orange sugar.

01:48:39.000 It's just big anti-carb energy trying to oppress us all.

01:48:43.000 I got no problem with you.

01:48:44.000 You sound like an addict, Hannah-Claire. 0.92

01:48:46.000 Hey, look, you want to eat some white rice with some steamed chicken? 0.94

01:48:49.000 Yeah.

01:48:50.000 That's great.

01:48:51.000 You want to eat breaded, deep fried chicken dipped in sugar syrup and rolled around in it.

01:48:57.000 And then a big bowl of fried rice.

01:48:59.000 Still, go ahead.

01:49:00.000 But that's a lot of sugar. 0.95

01:49:01.000 I love sugar.

01:49:03.000 I'm big into glucose.

01:49:05.000 Yeah, I love that stuff.

01:49:06.000 Yeah, Ian's on a glucogenic diet.

01:49:07.000 Is that true?

01:49:08.000 I don't know, I just had a bunch of coconut water.

01:49:09.000 I just love having extra glucose.

01:49:10.000 It means that you derive the majority of your calories from sugar.

01:49:14.000 That's unfortunate.

01:49:15.000 I want to get it from fat.

01:49:16.000 That would be called ketogenic.

01:49:18.000 Right.

01:49:18.000 Where your body breaks down fats into ketone bodies.

01:49:21.000 Yeah.

01:49:22.000 Well, you gotta eat the fat first.

01:49:24.000 You just, you have to not eat sugar.

01:49:27.000 Yeah, and also watch out for vegetable oils apparently because it'll cause the mitochondria to start eating the sugar out of your bloodstream instead of the fat. 0.98

01:49:33.000 This is, my other crusade is, you know, most American food is not food.

01:49:37.000 Yeah.

01:49:38.000 That haven't left America don't realize this.

01:49:41.000 What's the food like in Mexico?

01:49:42.000 Healthy.

01:49:46.000 It's mostly freshly cooked stuff.

01:49:48.000 Healthy.

01:49:49.000 Home cooking.

01:49:50.000 I go there I lose weight like it's nothing.

01:49:54.000 People that don't exit America don't realize most of what we eat is not food.

01:50:00.000 It's not food man.

01:50:02.000 No.

01:50:02.000 It's due to regulations, too.

01:50:04.000 We effectively killed off... People don't know what they're missing out on.

01:50:07.000 I can go to Mexico, there's food carts all over the place because they're not regulated.

01:50:12.000 There's always a trade-off between safety and freedom, right?

01:50:15.000 And it's like, we're so concerned about safety here.

01:50:17.000 Food's regulated to kingdom come, and you only got chains because people want safety.

01:50:21.000 They're terrified of food poisoning.

01:50:24.000 You know, in Mexico, it's all freshly cooked food.

01:50:26.000 Maybe you get food poisoning once a year, but it's a lot healthier overall, and the food's delicious, and there's just, yeah, freshly cooked everything.

01:50:33.000 Freshly cooked grilled chicken, freshly cooked grilled steak, whatever.

01:50:36.000 Just right on the street, right in a restaurant.

01:50:39.000 I hear this all the time from people that when they come to America, they'll eat the same food.

01:50:43.000 Like, what do they normally eat?

01:50:44.000 They'll get, like, a steak and some rice, or they'll have, you know, some chicken with corn or whatever.

01:50:48.000 But in America, they gain weight like crazy no matter what.

01:50:50.000 Oh, it's unbelievable.

01:50:51.000 And then they say, I leave the country and I go home, and the weight just goes off.

01:50:54.000 I lose 10, 20 pounds like nothing in Mexico.

01:50:57.000 People don't know Mexico is a great country.

01:50:59.000 People don't understand that either.

01:51:00.000 America marks itself so well, everyone thinks nothing could be better than here.

01:51:05.000 People are blown away when they go to Mexico, how good it is there.

01:51:08.000 Another thing people don't realize is The amount of migration from America to Mexico in the last

01:51:12.000 four years, it's through the roof.

01:51:14.000 Like millions.

01:51:15.000 I live in Mexico City and it's through the roof.

01:51:18.000 Like so many Americans are going to live there. 1.00

01:51:20.000 And when I first got there, I was trying to convince my friends to come visit.

01:51:23.000 Nobody wanted to come visit.

01:51:24.000 They thought it was like the worst place in the world.

01:51:25.000 And they got there and they're walking around.

01:51:27.000 They got malls better than our malls, restaurants better than our restaurants.

01:51:30.000 You can go to a $100 a person steakhouse, or you can get $2 tacos on the street that are cooked fresh.

01:51:35.000 It's an incredible place.

01:51:36.000 It's an incredible place.

01:51:37.000 And everyone thinks it's all sepia-toned.

01:51:39.000 Because every movie ever, when they go to Mexico, they use sepia tone.

01:51:43.000 Yeah.

01:51:43.000 And then you go to Mexico City, and it's actually cool, and it's elevated, and very colorful, and like a normal city.

01:51:50.000 They got Buffalo Wild Wings.

01:51:51.000 Isn't that where the capital of the Aztecs was?

01:51:53.000 Tutuacan?

01:51:54.000 Is that right?

01:51:55.000 I don't know.

01:51:55.000 I wrote about this in my Trump endorsement.

01:51:57.000 People don't really like the immigration stuff.

01:52:00.000 It's very anti-happiness because we do such a good job of marketing in America.

01:52:04.000 I lived in Mexico for six years.

01:52:05.000 I talked to so many people over there.

01:52:07.000 They all want to get out of Mexico and come to America because they don't know what America's like.

01:52:11.000 They think, it's so great here.

01:52:12.000 It must be even better in America.

01:52:13.000 I tell them, well, I'm like, you don't realize what you guys got here.

01:52:16.000 I mean, you guys, if people come, they leave their families, they ask for asylum,

01:52:20.000 they get separated, you know, it's tragic.

01:52:23.000 But, you know, America does a great job of marketing itself.

01:52:25.000 And I guess Mexico doesn't have the same marketing budget to market itself.

01:52:28.000 But since I moved there, you know, six years ago, I lived part-time there,

01:52:31.000 since I moved there part-time six years ago, I've been telling everybody about how great it is,

01:52:36.000 and all of a sudden millions of people are coming.

01:52:37.000 So I don't know if I'm their one-man marketing department.

01:52:39.000 or not but uh yeah Mexico doesn't have the marketing budget we do we got a

01:52:42.000 great marketing budget but yeah we're missing out on a lot of stuff that

01:52:45.000 could be better here you know we're fighting over crazy political things we

01:52:49.000 should be fighting over food that tastes delicious and doesn't make us fat.

01:52:52.000 Yep alright Sea Warrior says why pull culture war based on an allegation from a weaponized

01:52:56.000 agency have you already performed due diligence?

01:52:59.000 We're not pulling.

01:53:00.000 What do you mean?

01:53:01.000 The show, uh, there's a channel called The Culture Ward.

01:53:04.000 YouTube.com slash TimCast.

01:53:05.000 It's my first YouTube channel.

01:53:06.000 It's where the show was originally.

01:53:08.000 Culture, uh, Tenet purchased a license to have the broadcast on their channel.

01:53:13.000 Pending, uh, anything, I can just broadcast it on my channel.

01:53:18.000 The show will exist as it already does.

01:53:20.000 Nothing's changing.

01:53:21.000 So, uh, pending what happens with whatever this indictment is, I have no idea, but the show is literally not changing.

01:53:27.000 It's gonna keep happening exactly as it is and always has been.

01:53:31.000 And we've got a bunch of great shows lined up.

01:53:34.000 This Friday on The Culture War, we've got John Devaney, Benyam Capple, And Shane Cashman, and what do we have coming up later on?

01:53:44.000 We have, I don't know what else we have on the list, but we've got a mob boss coming on the show.

01:53:49.000 I'm really excited for that one.

01:53:50.000 Sounds awesome.

01:53:52.000 Yeah.

01:53:52.000 And he might be a current mob boss.

01:53:54.000 They say former, but you know, he might be, he might be a current one.

01:53:57.000 A mob always in the mob kind of thing?

01:53:58.000 Who knows?

01:53:59.000 I don't know.

01:53:59.000 We're going to hear what he has to say.

01:54:00.000 Cause I want, cause I, you know, I, we set this show up because you ever see a Bronx Tale?

01:54:04.000 No.

01:54:05.000 You ever see it?

01:54:06.000 Yes.

01:54:06.000 That scene where the bikers come in and they disrespect the bar.

01:54:10.000 So I'll lay it out because I don't know if people don't know the scene, but it's really great.

01:54:13.000 Basically, my boss, here's a ruckus, comes to the bar and he's like, what's the problem?

01:54:18.000 These bikers are very loud, bartenders-like, they can't come in here not dressed properly.

01:54:23.000 One biker just looks at him and says, look man, we just want a beer, you know, and then we'll be on our way.

01:54:27.000 And he goes, spoken like a gentleman, give them their beers.

01:54:30.000 and then gives him the beers and then the guy, the bikers take the beers, shake them up and 0.75

01:54:35.000 spray the bartender down and start laughing. Then he goes, okay, now you guys gotta leave.

01:54:40.000 And then the dude turns around and says like, F you, we're staying. So then he walks over,

01:54:45.000 closes the bar door, locks it, and then goes, now you can't leave.

01:54:50.000 And then the bikers all look at each other, then the back door busts open and a bunch of the boys come in with guns and bats, just beating the crap out of the bikers.

01:55:00.000 The point with that scene is that many people make the argument A city is better under control of local organized crime, which has an incentive to enrich themselves without the community becoming too damaged.

01:55:11.000 Whereas, right now, we're witnessing external gangs coming in, doing whatever they want, and there is no organized system.

01:55:18.000 So, if you call the police the largest mafia... When I was growing up, people were like, the police are just the largest mafia in the country or whatever.

01:55:25.000 Okay, well, we don't got those now, because you look at these roving bands that loot department stores and steal everything.

01:55:30.000 So the question then is, what if there actually was a mafia?

01:55:34.000 And they were like, don't come and loot the stores that are paying us protection money.

01:55:38.000 Would things be better off?

01:55:39.000 So I had an interesting conversation around what that would look like.

01:55:42.000 I think they would be, because lawful evil is better than chaotic evil.

01:55:45.000 If you've got to live in that society, anyway.

01:55:47.000 Chaotic evil is where people eat each other on the street and no one can stop them.

01:55:49.000 But imagine you know the mob boss.

01:55:52.000 He doesn't go around beating and injuring people.

01:55:54.000 He goes to your store and says, look, you've got to pay, because we're going to make sure nobody comes and destroys everything.

01:55:59.000 And if you don't pay, and nobody else pays, then these gangs are going to come and they're going to destroy everything.

01:56:04.000 You'd be like, okay.

01:56:05.000 And that's it?

01:56:05.000 That's the worst of it?

01:56:06.000 I don't even call that evil.

01:56:08.000 I don't know.

01:56:08.000 Extortion?

01:56:10.000 I mean, it's probably evil, but it's lawful.

01:56:12.000 Or neutral at the very least.

01:56:13.000 So when the police come and say, pay the tax man, because we're here to protect your business, and if you don't pay, no one else will pay... Hopefully they're good, yeah, hopefully.

01:56:19.000 No, it's still evil, then.

01:56:20.000 It's still kind of extortion.

01:56:21.000 Call it evil.

01:56:22.000 I'm just saying, like, it's not so easy to determine what is good or evil.

01:56:26.000 I would argue that could just be considered neutral.

01:56:29.000 You know?

01:56:29.000 Yeah.

01:56:30.000 Roving gangs are coming and destroying everyone's businesses and ruining the town.

01:56:33.000 So guys, a bunch of guys get together and say, if we're going to do this, we need your support and everyone's got to pay.

01:56:38.000 Otherwise, we're not going to pick and choose who gets protected.

01:56:41.000 So, you know, the question is, is the mafia committing crimes and hurting people and then they're evil?

01:56:46.000 But if it's literally just like it's real protection, there's a question about whether it's evil or not.

01:56:51.000 I think it'll be fun.

01:56:53.000 Anyway, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:56:54.000 What have we here?

01:56:55.000 Kalashnikov, ooh, good name, says, U.S.

01:56:58.000 dollar is stronger than ever, and the southern border is secure.

01:57:01.000 Anything else is Russian disinformation campaign, and you are the willing participant that must go to jail for espionage.

01:57:07.000 Ah, indeed, that's right.

01:57:09.000 No one ever better criticize the economy or the southern border.

01:57:13.000 I also wanted to add, there is no war in Ba Sing Se.

01:57:16.000 That's right.

01:57:17.000 There is no war.

01:57:19.000 What have we here?

01:57:22.000 A lad who ate four dozen eggs.

01:57:24.000 That's too many.

01:57:25.000 YouTube deleted my super chat, so I'll donate again.

01:57:26.000 A. Waltz's family endorsed Trump.

01:57:29.000 Let's go!

01:57:29.000 Yeah.

01:57:31.000 And then Trump thanked him for it.

01:57:33.000 Apparently Trump wants to meet with him.

01:57:34.000 That'd be funny.

01:57:36.000 Michael Beacon says, thanks Anthony for taking a stand for sane political discourse.

01:57:39.000 I'll definitely be using Sticker Mule for my next crowdfund for my comic, Seven Legions, and next time I need hot sauce.

01:57:46.000 A lot of people were saying it was profound how you were explaining how people can be intimidated by mail-in voting.

01:57:52.000 I'd never thought of that before, the intimidation factor of someone that you know being like, have you filled your thing out for?

01:57:58.000 Yeah, it's odd.

01:57:59.000 I don't know why no one else talks about this issue.

01:58:03.000 But hopefully people hear this and people start realizing this is the big problem with it.

01:58:08.000 We talked about, too, like parents.

01:58:10.000 If they've got 18 to 20-year-old kids who still live at home, they come in and the mom goes, fill out your ballots and vote for the Democrat. 0.98

01:58:16.000 And the kid's like, sure, whatever.

01:58:18.000 Exactly.

01:58:19.000 And now that kid would never have gone to vote.

01:58:21.000 But the mail-in vote is right there and they'll get it.

01:58:23.000 And that kid doesn't know what they're voting for, doesn't care what they're voting for.

01:58:25.000 And then they're wondering why it is in California they're giving out $150,000 loans to non-citizens, to illegal immigrants, and Gen Z can't get a house. 0.81

01:58:34.000 I hope everyone in Gen Z hears that and I hope you share it with everyone in Gen Z.

01:58:37.000 You can't buy a house, you can't afford a house, you can't find a good job, and California is giving $150,000 to illegal immigrants to own homes. 0.60

01:58:45.000 Is that effective?

01:58:47.000 That's an effective loan program now?

01:58:49.000 I don't know if Newsom signed it yet, but Nancy Pelosi effectively endorsed it, saying, well, it's for the American dream for everybody.

01:58:55.000 Everybody should own a home.

01:58:56.000 And it's like, OK, well, let's start with Gen Z first.

01:58:58.000 Let's do triage.

01:58:59.000 I saw her on Bill Maher, yeah, and he's like, but they're not citizens.

01:59:01.000 She's like, well, they should be.

01:59:03.000 She's like, I want to move them to DACA. 0.65

01:59:04.000 It's only a matter of time, she says.

01:59:08.000 Yup.

01:59:09.000 Seeking the Kingdom says, tell Constantino I love his hot sauce and the Russell Brand stickers were dope.

01:59:14.000 Right on.

01:59:17.000 What have we here?

01:59:20.000 John Eden says, how did the DOJ find out about any of this and why were they investigating Tenet in the first place?

01:59:27.000 Something smells fishy.

01:59:28.000 That is interesting.

01:59:30.000 It's a good question.

01:59:32.000 What would have prompted them to begin an investigation of Tenet Media in the first place?

01:59:36.000 It's a good question.

01:59:37.000 Generally, I think that they are monitoring anyone affiliated with RT really intensely because they hate RT.

01:59:43.000 But if you read the indictment...

01:59:45.000 The crazy thing is, it looks like great efforts were taken to obfuscate the source of revenue.

01:59:51.000 I suppose, though, if these people were actively involved, they knew who they were, and they knew they were lying about their identities, then you're not obfuscating anything.

01:59:58.000 It's like they know who you are.

02:00:00.000 So, you know, I don't know.

02:00:02.000 We'll see.

02:00:02.000 I don't know what's true.

02:00:03.000 Indictments, it even says on the DOJ website, these are not proven true.

02:00:07.000 These are allegations, and there still has to be a criminal hearing or whatever it may be.

02:00:13.000 But the other interesting thing is that they're only going after the Russians.

02:00:16.000 Just cause I'm free says the DOJ and Biden administration are accusing Russia of influence.

02:00:22.000 I'll just repeat what Obama said.

02:00:23.000 It'll be fun.

02:00:28.000 Just Cause I'm Free says the DOJ and Biden administration are accusing Russia of influence.

02:00:32.000 I'll just repeat what Obama said.

02:00:34.000 The 1980s called and they want their policies back.

02:00:39.000 The Moon Guy says the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s ran propaganda studies in the

02:00:42.000 news on their citizens, and they found it only takes three weeks for people to believe

02:00:46.000 it, to believe a lie.

02:00:47.000 Thank you.

02:00:48.000 Indeed.

02:00:50.000 And then it becomes history.

02:00:51.000 It becomes sustained fact.

02:00:52.000 And then people say, well, everybody knows about X. Everybody knows this thing happened.

02:00:58.000 All right. 0.99

02:00:59.000 Sean H says, shut up, Ian. 0.99

02:01:00.000 He literally said, I'm not going to be a dictator, but they call him a liar no matter what he says. 0.99

02:01:05.000 Every detractor says he lies, but never say what the lies are.

02:01:11.000 I was actually shutting up.

02:01:11.000 I was trying to understand that total in total.

02:01:15.000 But I don't know what it was in reference to.

02:01:17.000 That people say Trump's a liar, but they never reference what he's lying about.

02:01:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:23.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:01:24.000 He said everyone says he's a... I don't know.

02:01:26.000 Anyway, okay.

02:01:27.000 You know, I can only say this off the top of my head right now.

02:01:31.000 I can't think of any immediate lies from Trump.

02:01:33.000 I know in the past he's had silly ones where it's like, you know, I don't know the size of what like he's accused of lying about the square footage of his house.

02:01:42.000 The size of the crowd.

02:01:43.000 I think he said he had the largest crowd size ever on once when he didn't.

02:01:47.000 Yeah, maybe though, but that's not specific enough because there was a story where Trump said we're the largest audience and combined live audience and in person.

02:01:56.000 That's true.

02:01:57.000 But they argued he was talking about the people in front of him, which would not be true.

02:02:00.000 And it's just like, but you know, I don't think Trump's a liar.

02:02:04.000 But like everybody lies.

02:02:06.000 Like literally everybody lies.

02:02:08.000 Just ask Tim Walz.

02:02:09.000 Right. 1.00

02:02:10.000 Now that guy's a liar. 0.98

02:02:12.000 But I can tell you this, in the past, there were several stories that we talked about were like, well, Trump lied about this. 0.98

02:02:16.000 Like, that's not true.

02:02:17.000 But as of recent, off the top of my head, I couldn't think of anything.

02:02:20.000 I actually think he's done a great job improving his behavior and his attitude and he's still funny and all that.

02:02:25.000 So he's doing pretty well.

02:02:26.000 Could you imagine if a politician gets caught in a lie and he just is like, everybody lies.

02:02:30.000 I'm just like you guys.

02:02:30.000 Everybody lies.

02:02:31.000 I mean, like the most hilarious defense.

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02:02:54.000 Anthony, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:56.000 Right now, uh, I don't know.

02:02:57.000 Check out Sticker Mule.

02:02:58.000 Somebody keep writing Tim to set up a store until he decides to do one.

02:03:02.000 Well, someone will hear all this.

02:03:03.000 Someone will hear all this.

02:03:04.000 TimCast's Sticker Mule store.

02:03:06.000 Right?

02:03:06.000 StickerMule.com, frontstage, Tim Pool.

02:03:08.000 Right?

02:03:08.000 We need that URL.

02:03:10.000 StickerMule.com.

02:03:11.000 Can people follow you anywhere?

02:03:13.000 Me?

02:03:13.000 I'm on Twitter, I guess.

02:03:15.000 Right?

02:03:15.000 X. Yeah.

02:03:17.000 AC132.

02:03:18.000 But like I said, I'm a... What's the word?

02:03:20.000 I don't know how to pronounce it.

02:03:21.000 It starts with an L and ends with an E. Luddite.

02:03:22.000 Luddite.

02:03:23.000 But yeah, I don't really use... I mean, I'm starting to use social media.

02:03:26.000 I kept the whole company off social media, and I kept us off the internet in general.

02:03:30.000 I don't know.

02:03:31.000 Well, I guess we had a website, but... How did you guys get... Well, this is a whole other conversation, but you got so popular and successful... Yeah, the social media doesn't really do... It's not like a necessity for companies to be big.

02:03:41.000 It's not really...

02:03:42.000 A necessity at all.

02:03:43.000 People think it is, but I could delete all the social stuff tomorrow and our sales would probably go up.

02:03:48.000 Well, hopefully you won't because at Stickermule is where you'll find them on Twitter.

02:03:51.000 Oh, and we're doing more stuff with Ricky Berwick next week, so follow us on Twitter.

02:03:57.000 Wait, it's called X now?

02:03:58.000 Follow us on X. We're blocked by Elon on X, maybe because I keep calling it Twitter.

02:04:03.000 And also because in Mexico, I should not say this, but because in Mexico they pronounce it Ellen, and I by mistake say it that way, and I'm like, maybe he heard me call him Ellen and he got mad and blocked us.

02:04:11.000 I don't know.

02:04:13.000 Like you guys are dark, you guys are like shadow band or something?

02:04:16.000 No, he like, Sticker Mule is blocked by Elon, so I'm just gonna... Oh, he blocked you personally, I get you.

02:04:20.000 I want an explanation on this immediately.

02:04:22.000 It was like a week after he wrote, I'm unblocking everyone, and then he just like, Except for Sticker Mule.

02:04:27.000 I do not like the Sticker guy.

02:04:28.000 Maybe it's a parody account.

02:04:29.000 Check it out.

02:04:29.000 Maybe it's not his intro.

02:04:30.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:04:31.000 I don't know.

02:04:31.000 He does not like Stickers.

02:04:32.000 Maybe he had a childhood trauma.

02:04:34.000 I don't know.

02:04:34.000 I shouldn't make something happen with Stickers.

02:04:36.000 He doesn't like that he had the hot sauce and it made him, I don't know, have diarrhea.

02:04:39.000 I don't know.

02:04:40.000 Maybe.

02:04:40.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

02:04:42.000 Follow me on the internet, Ian Crossland.

02:04:43.000 I've been streaming live during the day and the afternoons.

02:04:46.000 It's quite fun.

02:04:46.000 So come join me at Ian Crossland on YouTube.

02:04:48.000 I'm also on Twitch, Instagram.

02:04:51.000 I multi-stream to Rumble.

02:04:53.000 And gosh, where else?

02:04:55.000 X. I'm on all the platforms.

02:04:56.000 So check me out somewhere in the afternoon tomorrow.

02:04:58.000 I should be there playing Diablo or music or something else.

02:05:01.000 Have fun.

02:05:02.000 Take care of yourself.

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