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00:02:35.000 The complete text messages between the Charlie Kirk assassin and his lover have been released.

00:02:41.000 And it's fairly cut and dry, basically explaining why he did what he did.

00:02:45.000 Now there is something interesting about it.

00:02:47.000 Some people are suggesting it's it's weird.

00:02:50.000 It seems fake, something's off about it.

00:02:53.000 I don't necessarily agree with that.

00:02:55.000 I think it makes sense the way it does, but Matt Walsh made an interesting point to which I I I agree to a great degree.

00:03:02.000 And that is, it looks like the shooter may have stated these things and staged this conversation to absolve them of responsibility.

00:03:10.000 Now, maybe I'm thinking too far ahead of myself.

00:03:12.000 However, the DOJ is actually investigating a potential transgender online group for foreknowledge, this we've known about for some time.

00:03:22.000 But there is more evidence emerging that there may be others involved, in which case possibly these messages were sent in an effort to make it look like these other people were not involved.

00:03:32.000 We don't know for sure.

00:03:33.000 We can only go by the official reporting so far.

00:03:35.000 And today was a crazy day.

00:03:37.000 And there is an insane amount of news.

00:03:38.000 The old man who screamed that he shot Charlie Kirk and was detained.

00:03:42.000 Apparently, according to documents, he did it to help the shooter escape.

00:03:45.000 And now he's been charged with child abuse images.

00:03:50.000 Kash Patel had a Senate hearing this morning where he just laid into Cory Booker and Adam Schiff and...

00:03:50.000 Very crazy.

00:03:58.000 Absolutely nuts.

00:03:59.000 And in that hearing, it was revealed by Chuck Grassley that the FBI had a probe into one hundred conservative groups, including TP USA, which is insane.

00:04:12.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be a heck of a crazy day.

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00:07:03.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much else is Adam Johnson, who's in Texas for some reason, and we don't know why.

00:07:09.000 Adam, what are you doing on Alex Stein's show when we had you booked to come on this one?

00:07:16.000 So uh here's the story.

00:07:18.000 Uh Lectern guy, as everyone likes to call him, was uh, as far as my team is concerned, booked to be on Timcast IRL tonight.

00:07:25.000 And uh we were informed that he would be uh driving himself, and he messaged me last week, I think.

00:07:31.000 Adam.

00:07:32.000 So uh he's on the list, and I just called my driving team.

00:07:35.000 I was like, Are you sure you booked him right?

00:07:37.000 Because maybe we made a mistake, and they're like, we got him.

00:07:39.000 It's on the schedule.

00:07:40.000 These are the dates that we set.

00:07:41.000 And I said, Okay.

00:07:43.000 And then uh he didn't show up.

00:07:44.000 And so we tried calling him and he wouldn't answer his phone.

00:07:47.000 And we were really worried about him.

00:07:48.000 And I'm this is genuine.

00:07:49.000 We were like, oh, I think I hope he's okay.

00:07:50.000 And then Ian's like, hey, I just turned on Alex Stein's show, and he's on the couch with Alex Stein.

00:07:55.000 So anyway, Tate's Tate's here.

00:07:57.000 What's up, guys?

00:07:58.000 You know, getting me here as a guest.

00:08:00.000 Really everyone had the swing for the fences, but I was like, you know what?

00:08:02.000 Fine for Timcast. 0.80

00:08:04.000 I'll I'll fill in as a guest tonight.

00:08:05.000 So uh happy to be here.

00:08:07.000 Tate Brown.

00:08:08.000 We put the lectern in the picture where we're like, just let's just grab grab the lectern and uh put it in its in his place.

00:08:13.000 I kind of oh, are you gonna say more?

00:08:15.000 I was gonna stand at the lectern for the whole show, but the mic wouldn't reach.

00:08:18.000 So I kind of like just us hanging out like a friendship zone night or something.

00:08:22.000 I don't know, I feel good being with you guys.

00:08:23.000 Don't I just play magic?

00:08:24.000 Yeah, we should.

00:08:25.000 You know, they've got a get a top camera.

00:08:27.000 Um, I'm also here, Ian Crosslin.

00:08:29.000 We got this mother in the house. 1.00

00:08:31.000 My masada handler is here.

00:08:32.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:08:33.000 I am Alad Eliyahu, um, White House correspondent here at Timcast News.

00:08:37.000 I was concerned that they finally picked him up.

00:08:39.000 Uh, I don't know if you had any outstanding warrants for the J6 stuff still.

00:08:43.000 That was my goodness.

00:08:43.000 No, no, no, it's barred on all that stuff.

00:08:45.000 No, he's pardoned all that stuff.

00:08:46.000 All right, so I'm like, how is he in Texas?

00:08:48.000 What it what?

00:08:49.000 Oh, it's so weird.

00:08:50.000 It was a minute, what?

00:08:51.000 759.

00:08:52.000 I clicked on the YouTube app and it was the top video.

00:08:53.000 It showed him sitting on Alex.

00:08:55.000 I was like, what the?

00:08:56.000 But it was weird because he also responded to someone on X saying who's on IRL tonight.

00:09:01.000 And we were all like, he's making a joke.

00:09:04.000 He's saying that because it's him.

00:09:06.000 But he's in Texas.

00:09:07.000 Maybe it was genuine question.

00:09:08.000 He's like, who's on IRL?

00:09:09.000 And then I think Ian was like, is Alex Stein's show pre-recording?

00:09:12.000 I was like, no, I was literally on the phone with Alex Stein a moment ago.

00:09:14.000 He's like, I'm about to go live.

00:09:15.000 Yeah, I thought it was maybe a pre-record that they were streaming live, but I'm gonna I'm gonna call him.

00:09:18.000 Yeah, we should do it.

00:09:19.000 We should call him live and see if he's merge shows.

00:09:22.000 Oh, before and while he's calling him.

00:09:24.000 Hello, everybody.

00:09:25.000 My name is Philibonti.

00:09:26.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains of an Anti-Communist and the Counter-Revolutionary, and I too expected Adam to be here, and I am also let down.

00:09:34.000 I have no idea what happened.

00:09:35.000 Well, let's just talk about the news, and then maybe at some point I'll call Alex Stein, and maybe we'll be live on his show.

00:09:40.000 Uh, we got this from the Postmillennial.

00:09:41.000 It's huge.

00:09:42.000 Complete text exchange between Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs after Charlie Kirk killing.

00:09:47.000 Quote, don't talk to the media.

00:09:49.000 If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent.

00:09:53.000 What we are learning now, I mean, this is pretty crazy.

00:09:55.000 Take a look at this from the New York Post.

00:09:57.000 Charlie Kirk assassination investigation widens to probe whether pro-trans online groups knew in advance.

00:10:02.000 And there's a lot more.

00:10:04.000 Apparently, there's this weird Utah and and like trans armed group. 0.60

00:10:10.000 We'll get into that in a second, but let's just read about the transcripts so far.

00:10:14.000 Newly released documents show Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk, confessed in text messages to his trans lover roommate Lance Twiggs after the September 10th shooting and urged him to destroy the evidence.

00:10:26.000 Police say Robinson's roommate who was in a romantic relationship with him, received a text directing him to look under Robinson's keyboard.

00:10:32.000 There he found a handwritten note that read, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm gonna take it.

00:10:37.000 In a series of texts, Robinson admitted response responsibility.

00:10:40.000 I am I am, I'm sorry, he told his roommate, his lover.

00:10:44.000 Explaining I've had enough of his hatred.

00:10:45.000 Some hate can't be negotiated out.

00:10:47.000 He also described leaving his rifle hidden and worried it could be traced back to his family.

00:10:52.000 Robinson repeatedly asked his roommate to cover for him, delete this exchange.

00:10:56.000 One message read.

00:10:57.000 So the text conversation is below, but I think we have the uh press conference here.

00:11:01.000 The roommate.

00:11:03.000 Police interviewed Robinson's roommate, a biological male who is was involved in a romantic relationship with Robinson.

00:11:13.000 The roommate told police that the roommate received messages from Robinson about the shooting, and pro and he did provide those messages to police.

00:11:23.000 On September 10th, 2025, the roommate received a text message from Robinson which said, drop what you're doing, look under my keyboard.

00:11:34.000 The roommate looked under the keyboard and found a note that stated, quote, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it.

00:11:45.000 Police found a photograph of this note.

00:11:48.000 The following exchange, text exchange, then took place.

00:11:54.000 After reading the note, the roommate responded, What?

00:11:58.000 You're joking, right?

00:12:00.000 Robinson.

00:12:02.000 I am still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet.

00:12:07.000 Shouldn't be long until I can come home.

00:12:10.000 But I gotta grab my rifle still.

00:12:13.000 To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age.

00:12:17.000 I am sorry to involve you.

00:12:20.000 Roommate.

00:12:22.000 You weren't the one who did it, right?

00:12:25.000 Robinson, I am I am.

00:12:27.000 I'm sorry.

00:12:29.000 I thought they caught the person.

00:12:29.000 Roommate.

00:12:31.000 Robinson. 0.74

00:12:33.000 No, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing.

00:12:38.000 I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after.

00:12:43.000 But most of that side of town got locked down.

00:12:47.000 It's quiet almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering.

00:12:52.000 Roommate, why? 0.98

00:12:54.000 Robinson.

00:12:55.000 Why did I do it?

00:12:56.000 Roommate, yeah.

00:12:59.000 Robinson.

00:13:00.000 I had enough of his hatred.

00:13:01.000 Some hate can't be negotiated out.

00:13:04.000 If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence.

00:13:12.000 Going to attempt to retrieve it again.

00:13:15.000 Hopefully they have moved on.

00:13:17.000 I haven't seen anything about them finding it.

00:13:20.000 Roommate.

00:13:21.000 How long have you been planning this?

00:13:24.000 Robinson.

00:13:25.000 A bit over a week, I believe.

00:13:27.000 I can get close to it, but there is a squad Car parked right by it.

00:13:32.000 I think they already swept that spot, but I don't want to chance it.

00:13:37.000 Robinson again.

00:13:38.000 I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle.

00:13:43.000 I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back grandpa's rifle.

00:13:50.000 I D E K, if it's had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me.

00:13:55.000 I worry about Prince.

00:13:57.000 I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits.

00:14:00.000 Didn't have the ability or time to bring it with.

00:14:04.000 I might have to abandon it and hope they don't find Prince.

00:14:09.000 How the F will I explain losing it to my old man?

00:14:14.000 Only thing I left was the rapple was the rifle wrapped in a towel.

00:14:19.000 Remember how he was engraving bullets?

00:14:22.000 The F and messages are mostly a big meme.

00:14:26.000 If I see notice bulge UW on Fox New, I might have a stroke all right.

00:14:34.000 I'm gonna have to leave it. 0.99

00:14:36.000 That really effing sucks. 1.00

00:14:38.000 Judging from today, I'd say grandpa's gun does just fine IDK. 0.99

00:14:44.000 I think that was a two thousand uh a 2K dollar scope.

00:14:51.000 Wink wink.

00:14:53.000 Um Robinson, Robinson again, delete this exchange.

00:14:59.000 Again, Robinson, my dad wants photos of the rifle.

00:15:03.000 He says grandpa wants to know who has what.

00:15:06.000 The feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very unique.

00:15:11.000 He's calling me RN, not answering Robinson.

00:15:16.000 Since Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty diehard MAGA.

00:15:22.000 Robinson, I'm gonna turn myself in willingly.

00:15:26.000 One of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff.

00:15:30.000 Again, you are all I worry about love.

00:15:33.000 That came from Robinson.

00:15:34.000 Roommate, I'm much more worried about you.

00:15:38.000 Robinson, don't talk to the media, please.

00:15:41.000 Don't take any interviews or make any comments.

00:15:45.000 If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent.

00:15:52.000 You know, he keeps saying love in the exchange, and they're like roommate over and over again.

00:15:57.000 It's like, old man, understand what they're trying to convey. 0.66

00:16:00.000 Uh I will also add quickly.

00:16:03.000 Uh upon further investigation, our booking team has said, wait, we made the mistake.

00:16:08.000 Adam, I apologize if I have impugned your honor.

00:16:12.000 Apparently, uh Adam had written earlier in the message October 16th, and then after the message had progressed to the 16th, they wrote down the 16th, not realizing it meant a month from now.

00:16:22.000 Oh, see you next month, buddy.

00:16:25.000 Uh in the meantime, however, I do have the actual text exchange.

00:16:28.000 And Matt Walsh makes an interesting point.

00:16:31.000 He says, I am leaning very strongly towards the theory that this text exchange was scripted as a way to absolve the boyfriend.

00:16:37.000 It's almost exactly what Walter White did at the end of Breaking Bad.

00:16:40.000 This feels like a strategy they cooked up from watching too much TV.

00:16:44.000 I I I largely agree.

00:16:46.000 I do, I I say largely because when you take a look at the exchange, it's entirely plausible and it's real.

00:16:51.000 A lot of people base their expectations on what people do and say on movies.

00:16:57.000 And that means they they assume everyone is going to have a dramatic response.

00:17:03.000 Everyone is going to be balling their eyes out.

00:17:05.000 People react differently in different ways.

00:17:07.000 Sometimes you just don't understand.

00:17:09.000 And this could be entirely plausible.

00:17:12.000 That being said, I don't believe, based off what we've seen with this investigation, where they're looking into whether these pro-trans groups knew in advance.

00:17:22.000 This wasn't in a vacuum.

00:17:23.000 They knew.

00:17:24.000 And and and how the new the roommate would not have known is absurd to me.

00:17:28.000 So I think it's entirely plausible that these messages were actually made as a you couldn't have known.

00:17:35.000 And then they can say, see, here's proof.

00:17:36.000 He wasn't involved.

00:17:38.000 It provides a lot of sympathy for the roommate, that is for sure.

00:17:41.000 I feel real bad that the that the shooter seems to be putting this guy in a position where he's asking him to delete evidence and to uh become an accomplice in a murder investigation.

00:17:50.000 I hope the roommate didn't delete the messages like he was asked to.

00:17:54.000 But one one of these things that messes is I'm wondering about when he said he was engraving the bullets with LMAO or whatever these the bullets were engraved.

00:18:01.000 Who's he?

00:18:02.000 Who's the guy that was engraving those bullets?

00:18:05.000 That's the the shooter.

00:18:06.000 Robinson.

00:18:07.000 The shooter said he when he was engraving the bullets.

00:18:10.000 That's right.

00:18:11.000 He's not talking about himself.

00:18:12.000 Yes, he is.

00:18:13.000 When he he out of box.

00:18:15.000 He said he's someone else.

00:18:17.000 In in the the note, the shooter says to his roommate, when he was engraving the bullets, he's talking about someone.

00:18:24.000 He says, remember how I was engraving bullets.

00:18:27.000 The effing messages are mostly a big meme.

00:18:29.000 If I see notices bulge oowoo on Fox News, I might have a stroke alright.

00:18:34.000 All right, I thought he said I'm gonna have to leave it. 0.99

00:18:35.000 That really effing sucks. 0.77

00:18:38.000 Like, unless unless the texts were transposed, like this is not how Zoomers communicates. 0.98

00:18:43.000 That's the first red flag.

00:18:44.000 And then the second one is what Anons were pointing out on Thursday.

00:18:47.000 I mean, Captain Dreamer is one of them.

00:18:49.000 It is very obvious that they wrote this based on the messages, and they are not one for one.

00:18:55.000 Uh and and what I'm saying is it's interesting.

00:18:58.000 Sorry to interrupt, but it's interesting that they put out the question marks here.

00:19:00.000 You weren't the one who did it right with all those question marks, because all of those question marks are flair, which is indicative of colloquial conversation.

00:19:09.000 However, based on the grammar and punctuation, this is clearly not a one-for-one transcription.

00:19:15.000 This is typed out by somebody.

00:19:17.000 Yeah, it's I mean, guys, anybody, just look at it.

00:19:21.000 Nobody types in complete perfect sentence with grammar.

00:19:25.000 Like, who uses commas when you're texting a friend?

00:19:28.000 Just me.

00:19:28.000 Because I'm from born in 1979.

00:19:30.000 That's right.

00:19:31.000 But um the other thing was like I was saying is like a few anons pointed this out Thursday, pretty much right after.

00:19:35.000 I think he Captain Dreamer is one of them.

00:19:37.000 Is uh a lot of transgender people in the area were saying something big is gonna happen tomorrow or they're preemptively celebrating and that sort of thing, which indicates that there was you know, again, indicates that there was some sort of network of transgender people in the area beforehand that maybe uh Tyler had tipped off.

00:19:54.000 And so that's to your point, how would the roommate not be in the no?

00:19:57.000 I mean, this he would be presumably a part of that.

00:19:59.000 You know what he said that he couldn't, it's at the very top of this message.

00:20:03.000 I can't read it from this from this distance, but he said that I couldn't take his hate anymore.

00:20:08.000 He's talking about himself.

00:20:10.000 Talking about Charlie Kirk.

00:20:11.000 Well, he that's what he's projecting onto Charlie Kirk, but he's talking about his own inability to communicate.

00:20:16.000 Here's the other thing I want to add.

00:20:17.000 Notice the ellipses.

00:20:19.000 It looks like they've omitted things.

00:20:22.000 The ellipses in writing like this are usually indicative of pulling something out.

00:20:27.000 And based on the structure of the ellipses, again, it may just be that they typed that in because they are taking communications they saw and retyping it out.

00:20:37.000 Stitching text together.

00:20:38.000 There is a typo.

00:20:39.000 I I D E K. Oh, that's I don't even know.

00:20:43.000 In which case there's not a single typo, which makes no sense.

00:20:45.000 Because bro, on my phone, especially with autocorrect, it is insane trying to send someone a message over any service, Discord, text or otherwise.

00:20:56.000 When it changes, yo, I I'll type in um uh gov. Like I want to say governor.

00:21:03.000 So I'll type gov, and they'll go government.

00:21:05.000 Yeah, it just fills up the whole.

00:21:07.000 I'm like, that's not the word I wanted, and I gotta go back.

00:21:09.000 It's even longer, it's a waste of time.

00:21:10.000 I turned off auto fill about two years ago.

00:21:12.000 I'm like, just take the it's like Luke Skywalker going in the desk starting like get the computer out of my face.

00:21:17.000 Yeah, but then I'm sausage finger in words and like eyes and you's and I'm so concerned that it's gonna plug in some horrific meaning that I didn't intend.

00:21:24.000 It's the you know, it's it does that.

00:21:26.000 Yeah.

00:21:27.000 The reason a lot of people are speculating that this maybe wasn't transposed is because a lot of the lines began without capital capitalization.

00:21:34.000 And so a lot of people are saying, no, there's actually this could just be a direct rip from their correspondence.

00:21:39.000 Okay, uh, yeah, I don't believe it for a second.

00:21:41.000 If if the roommate was involved in any way, they should obviously be held to whatever laws that they violated in doing so.

00:21:47.000 One of the details that I think goes against it though, was them thinking that it was the old guy being caught being the actual shooter, because that's what Cash Patel originally put out.

00:21:58.000 And Cash Patel's getting a lot of pushback for that detail too, for fudging that detail.

00:22:02.000 The old Pito, by the way, who has been charged now, or I should say alleged, and charged with child abuse materials, which is this is a crazy story.

00:22:10.000 What is going on?

00:22:12.000 Sure.

00:22:12.000 But what what do you I mean, what do you think about that too?

00:22:15.000 What do you think Cash uh fumbled this at all early on, saying that the subject for the horror fake shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk?

00:22:23.000 Cash was not talking about the old man.

00:22:25.000 He was talking about another person wearing similar clothes, and he didn't say suspect, he said subject, and he did Make a mistake, but it's not the biggest deal in the world, in my opinion, my opinion.

00:22:32.000 I think it shows that they're real humans trying to deal with this.

00:22:36.000 And what I can't stand is that you know, when whenever you have a crisis or a catastrophe or disaster, you know you're not getting real answers.

00:22:44.000 Like when Deep Water Horizon happened, like anyone seriously believed the statements from BP when they were coming out talking about it, it's like I got a bridge to sell you.

00:22:54.000 This shows, in my opinion, Cash is actually just a guy who's trying to do this job, and he's not treating it the way previous administrations and previous uh FBI heads have.

00:23:04.000 And that means he's trying to be transparent.

00:23:08.000 He was trying to give information to the people, and for that, he went early and he made a mistake with it.

00:23:13.000 Not that big a deal.

00:23:14.000 I don't think it's the end of the world.

00:23:15.000 And a lot of people are ragging on him saying he didn't do anything anyway.

00:23:18.000 And I'm like, yeah, only because they published information and they were doing the groundwork investigation, and then they're verifying the guy.

00:23:18.000 The family turned him in.

00:23:25.000 So what I will say is these messages.

00:23:29.000 There's a couple ways I look at it.

00:23:31.000 The first and highest probability, in my opinion, is that this is transposed.

00:23:35.000 Uh no millennial.

00:23:38.000 I mean, Phil, your Gen X, do you type like that? 0.69

00:23:41.000 No.

00:23:41.000 Yeah, nope, nobody does.

00:23:43.000 Maybe voice to text for some of it or something.

00:23:44.000 That's that's true, but but it would get words wrong.

00:23:47.000 But but fair, both are using voice to text?

00:23:50.000 I don't know.

00:23:50.000 No.

00:23:51.000 And ones at a computer says, look under my keyboard.

00:23:53.000 It seems obvious they transposed it, which means they flared it up with the question marks or the question marks were there and they added them, Mike Troy they're still there.

00:23:59.000 But this looks like they transposed a conversation from and and that honestly that makes sense.

00:24:04.000 Could could you imagine trying to translate Gen Z to a general public? 0.69

00:24:07.000 Nope.

00:24:08.000 It would say like no like you did are you the one who did it?

00:24:10.000 I am no cap.

00:24:11.000 You know, the the average person's gonna be like, huh?

00:24:14.000 Yes, I am, I'm sorry.

00:24:16.000 How how do you say I'm sorry in Gen Z?

00:24:19.000 My fault.

00:24:20.000 My bad.

00:24:20.000 Yeah, my bad.

00:24:22.000 No care, uh no cap.

00:24:23.000 I'm my bad.

00:24:24.000 Saw's is an SOZ, or is that a little out now?

00:24:27.000 That's I think that's you guys, yeah.

00:24:28.000 Oh, that was that was like the third generation after me before you.

00:24:32.000 I don't know how far is there is however an however another high probability in my opinion, though much lower than chance, is what Matt Walsh said.

00:24:40.000 The reason why it looks unlike Gen Z is that the message was written by them intentionally to isolate any external groups who aided and abetted this.

00:24:50.000 As we already mentioned, they're investigating this other groups for foreknowledge.

00:24:54.000 It seemed listen, seven different social media channels accounts had posted foreknowledge of the event.

00:25:01.000 How many lottery numbers are there?

00:25:03.000 Uh six.

00:25:04.000 Yeah, it's like usually six or seven, six, and then like a power ball or whatever.

00:25:07.000 Okay.

00:25:08.000 So it's it's a lottery lottery tickets, it's greater than a lottery tickets chance that these people were able to predict days and even a month in advance it was gonna happen.

00:25:16.000 I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out this was actually written intentionally by them, so that when they got caught, or if they got caught, they could say this absolve absolves anyone else of responsibility and proves it because they had no idea. 0.95

00:25:29.000 Well, if the roommate did have any knowledge of this, I think Robinson wouldn't be stupid enough to write it down in a discord server or over text or something stupid like that. 0.73

00:25:37.000 If they live together, they probably talked about it in person. 0.99

00:25:40.000 Like that that's what it was.

00:25:41.000 I think it's a long more likely was still near near the scene.

00:25:44.000 That's why he was saying, Oh, I'll come back for the rifle later.

00:25:47.000 No, but if he knew ahead of time like anything that he'd do anything, I don't think he'd tell him, yeah, with like an online record.

00:25:53.000 You're saying if the roommate knew there's no need to go into a textual communication about it, they already knew ahead of time.

00:25:59.000 I think Robinson would say to the roommate in person in such a way that wouldn't be able to leave a uh a trace.

00:26:06.000 Well, apparently my understanding is that they del he they deleted this.

00:26:08.000 They they thought that by saying it and then erasing it, it wouldn't be caught by the FBI, but that's ridiculous.

00:26:14.000 Well, like if these guys are roommates, they're probably hanging out on the couch.

00:26:16.000 Robinson really hates Kirk.

00:26:18.000 He's saying, like, oh, he's he couldn't get home.

00:26:20.000 Roommates, roommates.

00:26:22.000 You mean they're hanging out in bed, cutting out. 0.92

00:26:24.000 Holding out in bed, having some pillow talk thinking, oh wow, Charlie Kirk's such a big bully.

00:26:28.000 Like, and I hear he's coming to town talk.

00:26:31.000 Yeah, but but he says I'm stuck in Aurum, I won't make it home.

00:26:33.000 Oh no, but I'm saying if we're looking for more information about the roommate being involved in this, one way or another.

00:26:38.000 You know what's fascinating about this.

00:26:41.000 It sounded like the roommate.

00:26:42.000 I mean, whether or not I don't know whether or not this is an actual genuine exchange, but the way that it sounds, it doesn't sound like the roommate actually had foreknowledge, at least not to me.

00:26:50.000 Yeah, because he kept asking, are you serious?

00:26:52.000 Sure.

00:26:53.000 That my personal opinion is come on.

00:26:56.000 Yeah.

00:26:57.000 Like the boyfriend was just secretly plotting the whole time.

00:27:00.000 He would be the only transgender person in all of Utah, evidently that didn't know this was a good idea.

00:27:04.000 Exactly.

00:27:05.000 All these other people were posting, like, wait till you see what happens to Charlie Kirk.

00:27:08.000 It sounds like, and Cash said this.

00:27:10.000 He was asked, are you investigating the other people in the 20 people in the Discord and says it's a lot more than that?

00:27:15.000 It's a lot more than that.

00:27:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:17.000 So these people who posted online, these are the weak links.

00:27:21.000 Because if you've got a Discord with a couple hundred people in it, and someone says they're gonna go harm Charlie Kirk, keep your mouth shut, the giddy losers went, Oh, I have to tell somebody I have to tell people because I get to know.

00:27:32.000 But everybody knows.

00:27:34.000 You gotta you do you that that is the weak link, right?

00:27:37.000 Like, for instance, if someone were were to have uh given pre-release Magic the Gathering cards to Tim Poole, and I came out and started posting pictures of them, then people could get in trouble.

00:27:50.000 So nothing like that has ever happened.

00:27:51.000 Yeah, that would be a big mistake if something like that were to ever happen.

00:27:55.000 I know.

00:27:55.000 You can't give Magic Gathering cards to someone before their release date.

00:27:58.000 No, no, you can't.

00:28:00.000 You can't do anything like that.

00:28:02.000 But uh, I'm only joking because Spider-Man's coming out soon.

00:28:05.000 I have no foreknowledge of Spider-Man.

00:28:07.000 Yeah, they're doing the Spider-Man's.

00:28:08.000 But that's the point, right?

00:28:09.000 If like if you were to get something in advance, there are people who want everyone to know that they're special.

00:28:16.000 And these seven people who released that, they couldn't stand that they knew and other people didn't know they knew, so they had to say it.

00:28:16.000 Yep.

00:28:24.000 Very common with music journalists.

00:28:25.000 Oh, yeah.

00:28:26.000 Back when you used to give them the record to uh review, they'd be like, Oh, I got it, and they'd talk to their friends and give people copies.

00:28:34.000 They want to brag about how they got it, yeah.

00:28:36.000 You pointed out you said something kind of simply, Phil, that if this is even real, and because I'm still in like shock from the the passport of the terrorist hijacker of 9-11 that they found on the ground.

00:28:47.000 This is I'm putting it in air quotes because this was the official story.

00:28:49.000 They found the the hijackers' passport, which is evidence that he was the one that blew up the building nearby. 0.54

00:28:54.000 What the hell?

00:28:55.000 Like, so now they have some text communication and they're like, here, look, read this text. 0.61

00:28:59.000 Four years later, you're still wowed by that.

00:29:01.000 Yeah, I'm still burned.

00:29:02.000 Like, I just don't trust the government.

00:29:04.000 I don't trust the media.

00:29:06.000 Well, I mean, there's plenty of reason to not trust the government, but um, but as for you know, this particular stuff, you know, the the evidence seems to point to that there were a lot of people that knew about this.

00:29:21.000 Let's jump to this story from the independent man 71 told cops he shot Charlie Kirk in order to give the real shooter time to escape documents say.

00:29:30.000 Now, here's interesting.

00:29:32.000 This guy, George Zinn, the man who falsely told police he shot Kirk, has now been charged with possessing child porn.

00:29:40.000 Okay.

00:29:42.000 This was not a lone actor.

00:29:43.000 I don't believe it for a second.

00:29:46.000 Why would this guy have at 71, just with all due respect to elderly, but just of himself, standing there as an old man, know that he needed to grant someone time to escape.

00:29:57.000 This was actually the theory as soon as it happened, and they realized he wasn't the shooter.

00:30:02.000 People were like, why would he do that?

00:30:04.000 Well, we brought it up on the show.

00:30:06.000 It distracted police who got who jumped at him, and then the shooter on the roof ran.

00:30:12.000 Had he not done that, they may have looked around and try and figured out where the shooter was.

00:30:17.000 Instead, they went and grabbed him instead.

00:30:19.000 He successfully distracted him.

00:30:21.000 Now, just in all honesty, how did he have the quick wit, as soon as a shot happened, to do that?

00:30:27.000 Maybe he's like a broken well, okay. 0.99

00:30:30.000 I'm gonna just gonna go ahead and say maybe he's a broken psychopath with child porn on his phone. 0.99

00:30:34.000 Um, and he was just wanting it so bad. 0.96

00:30:37.000 Yeah, maybe it's a possibility.

00:30:39.000 And it was like he heard the noise and immediately was like, ah, and like he's like, This is my mission. 0.62

00:30:44.000 I just like you can grab randomly grab a leftist out of a crowd and they're a pedophile.

00:30:49.000 It's magic, man.

00:30:50.000 Kyle Rittenhouse proved it.

00:30:51.000 Yeah.

00:30:52.000 I think um there is a decent probability, though I'm not saying it's guaranteed or greater than chance that the evidence shows there are more there there look.

00:31:02.000 Fact.

00:31:03.000 People had foreknowledge.

00:31:04.000 I don't think you look at seven posts online from these trans or translinked individuals saying something's gonna happen and be like, that's a coincidence. 1.00

00:31:14.000 Nah, that's that's that's too much for me.

00:31:16.000 Sorry.

00:31:16.000 It like how many how many times do the power ball get missed until someone won the 1.8 billion dollars?

00:31:21.000 Every every there's two drawings per week, and it took months.

00:31:25.000 So it is it is astronomical odds to have seven people predict even the day of saying something big's gonna happen, you'll know it when you see it, and then after it happens, say that's that.

00:31:35.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the good news is there are more people that they can wrap up and put in jail.

00:31:40.000 You know, if these people are a danger and they knew, or if they knew and they didn't say anything, they're a danger to society as well.

00:31:47.000 So have the FBI wrap them up, charge him with terrorism, charge him with accessory, throw them in jail forever.

00:31:54.000 I think uh considering what we find out about this guy and his proclivities.

00:31:59.000 Seems to be that there's probably an overlap with him and his these other people on these Discord servers.

00:32:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:04.000 I was thinking how many people that identify as transgender have seen child has seen pornography under the age of ten when they were under the age of ten.

00:32:11.000 Like how many kids were warped by pornography as young children that are super don't care.

00:32:16.000 They're still advocating murder, they go to jail.

00:32:19.000 Yeah, but that's the cross between a guy with a child pornography and people that have seen porn when they were little kids. 0.84

00:32:23.000 You know, there's this weird sexual perversion. 0.87

00:32:27.000 All in jail. 0.96

00:32:28.000 Right to jail.

00:32:29.000 I don't care about anyone.

00:32:30.000 I mean, if they're I don't care about any of like when they saw what would when they saw what or whatever, put them in jail, and that's that's all that I need to know.

00:32:37.000 I don't care about the backstory.

00:32:38.000 Well, and if they're tweeting like veiled threats, that indicates they have nothing to lose anyway.

00:32:42.000 And that's kind of the problem is you take these psychopaths that have nothing to lose, and that's how you end up with this situation.

00:32:48.000 So it's like I'm with Phil, just let's let's uh knock on their doors and figure out what's going on.

00:32:52.000 Not to mention this guy in particular.

00:32:54.000 I remember I was in I went to University of Utah in like 2013 when I was going to school there.

00:32:58.000 He called in a threat to I think he called in or sent in a threat to the Salt Lake Tribune saying he was going to blow up the Salt Lake Marathon right after the Boston Marathon happened.

00:33:06.000 So he has a proclivity to do this in the first place.

00:33:08.000 Whatever chance he can get to be in like this kind of And he was he was 59 years old when that happened.

00:33:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:13.000 Total nuts. 0.97

00:33:14.000 So mental asylums, man. 0.99

00:33:15.000 Jeez.

00:33:16.000 Yeah.

00:33:16.000 I think there are more people that are involved.

00:33:19.000 I think uh I don't trust the the messages they put out are complete.

00:33:22.000 They say it's complete, but I don't trust it because there's a there's a lip season it.

00:33:25.000 And it's perfect, it's perfect grammar, so it's clearly transposed.

00:33:29.000 Um I think everyone probably understands there is security clearance for a reason.

00:33:37.000 They're never going to release literally everything, especially if it could jeopardize their criminal prosecution of the individuals.

00:33:43.000 That being said, the New York Times reporting he acted alone.

00:33:47.000 I find that hard to believe.

00:33:48.000 And Cash has said that they're investigating uh way more people.

00:33:52.000 Uh lots more than 20 is what he said.

00:33:55.000 So it sounds like even Cash has said publicly at this hearing, yeah, more people are likely involved in this.

00:34:02.000 So you know, the media trying to downplay it is very strange to me.

00:34:04.000 It's so weird because if you're in a Discord chat and this is I was thinking, trying to think of the perspectives of these people, and some rando is like, I'm gonna go commit crime, and you're like, I don't ignore it.

00:34:14.000 Like if I got a random Twitter message from some anonymous account that says they're gonna go commit a crime, I wouldn't even pay a mind to it.

00:34:19.000 I wouldn't think to send it to the FBI.

00:34:21.000 And then if the crime happens, I'm like, what the but if a friend of mine texts me they're gonna commit a crime right to the FBI, just so you know, friends out there, don't commit crimes and tell me you're gonna do it.

00:34:30.000 Um so I don't all these people that happen to be in the same room with the guy that maybe saw a text.

00:34:37.000 It sucks that they're gonna get a knock on the door, but that may be just for the sake of the integrity of the mission, you know, they may it's worth checking out and having a conversation.

00:34:46.000 I don't know.

00:34:46.000 What mission?

00:34:48.000 Of finding out getting to the bottom of if the conspiracy if there's a conspiracy.

00:34:51.000 So there's likely a conspiracy if there's more than you know, 20 people.

00:34:55.000 More than one person.

00:34:56.000 I think the government is going to struggle to put together a way to go after people such that it satisfies conservatives or right wingers that they're going after the left enough.

00:35:09.000 So I I think the administration is struggling to find uh a way to not let this um so-called political crisis go to waste for them to have something effective to do.

00:35:18.000 But what are they gonna do?

00:35:19.000 You know, you have the attorney general Pam Bondy saying she w uh for one one moment in an interview earlier that like she's going to go after hate speech, but like I don't think that's the direction of Charlie Kirk, that the Charlie Kirk would have wanted this to go in.

00:35:30.000 Like he was famously a free speech type guy.

00:35:33.000 So like the administration is struggling.

00:35:34.000 Like, what if um this Robinson guy didn't, you know, uh isolate it and didn't implicate any of his friends uh to a degree that could get them arrested or anything.

00:35:43.000 You know, what what does that leave for people to want to do in the government?

00:35:48.000 Well, that's a Rama Manual quote.

00:35:49.000 He was the ch Obama's chief of staff, don't ever let a good tragedy go to waste.

00:35:53.000 I'm paraphrasing the people you can get people to do things that they would otherwise not do.

00:35:57.000 And then Pam Bondi comes out and says, if you use hate speech, we're gonna target you, and then walks it back on Axios the next day.

00:36:04.000 Trump, when asked about it, says, maybe she'll go after you next to the reporter because you said some unkind things to me.

00:36:10.000 Like, yeah, this is a nasty opportunity for a government to completely trash their constitution and establish martial law.

00:36:17.000 So we the populace fortunately were intelligent enough to see it going.

00:36:20.000 I I can't imagine how martial law would come from this.

00:36:24.000 Well, it starts with the repeal of free speech and then just knock the dominoes down.

00:36:30.000 You think that the president is going to enforce or an institute martial law nationwide, and you think that the National Guard of the multiple states are gonna comply?

00:36:41.000 No, I don't think it's gonna happen.

00:36:43.000 Okay.

00:36:44.000 But guy, what guys, what do we want the government to do about this?

00:36:47.000 Besides going, the government to start investigating every single Antifa Reddit account.

00:36:54.000 There's uh Reddit pages that are b uh uh dedicated to anti-fascists, anyone that's involved in any of the Antifa attacks, the Antifa attack on the ICE facility, the uh specific attacks against the um border patrol guys a couple we a couple months back.

00:37:12.000 I want all those people investigated, all of the people that connected with them.

00:37:15.000 I want anyone that's involved with the trans community in Utah investigated, or people that were in those discords, I want them investigated, and I want all the people that are that have committed crimes, I want them all arrested, and I want them all put in jail.

00:37:27.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I I think Bondy specifically, it was just uh maybe uh sloppy way of putting it. 0.95

00:37:33.000 I mean, what needs to be done is people that are sending threats, people are saying, Oh, you deserve to die for saying this.

00:37:38.000 Those are the people that should get knocked on the door.

00:37:39.000 Yep, you don't have to call that's not hate speech.

00:37:41.000 That's a that's a separate thing, but I think that's what she's referring to.

00:37:43.000 You need true threats.

00:37:45.000 Her actual like the things that she said are actually bad.

00:37:49.000 Like she'd be terrible with messaging, horrible with messaging, sloppy, because this is about terrorism.

00:37:55.000 This is about organized terrorism, like you know, organizations that are terrorist groups intending to chill political speech, to frighten people of a certain political persuasion.

00:38:07.000 So those people should be should be investigated, and if they've committed crimes, they should be arrested and tried.

00:38:14.000 Yeah, yeah, precisely.

00:38:16.000 But she was sloppy with the the uh the threat.

00:38:18.000 Whenever there's a threat, you know, the Supreme Court's been through this.

00:38:20.000 It was in like 60, it was during the Vietnam War.

00:38:23.000 A guy said, if you draft me and and make me carry a rifle, the first person I'll put in my sights is LBJ was the president of the time.

00:38:29.000 And then so they arrested him, it went all the way up to the Supreme Court, and they're like, it wasn't an a true threat because he everyone laughed.

00:38:35.000 He didn't, and so they didn't, they realized like you can say stuff like that, and it's not a real threat.

00:38:41.000 And then so now it's like you have to establish like that there was intention to establish that it was a true threat.

00:38:46.000 Um often there's um that they call like uh immediacy, like that's what time is.

00:38:52.000 That's why like talking about hate speech or like the the um whether it's uh what's the word I'm looking for, whether it was trying to get people to commit a crime or whatever, incitation.

00:39:04.000 Yeah, incite that's thank you very much.

00:39:06.000 Uh inciting, that's not what's being discussed or what should be discussed.

00:39:10.000 Material support to terrorism.

00:39:12.000 Right.

00:39:12.000 Right?

00:39:13.000 Like, this isn't about the people that are saying it's about free speech are wrong.

00:39:17.000 That's not the topic at hand.

00:39:19.000 It's terrorism.

00:39:20.000 So the people that are helping terrorists, and if they are helping them, the the old guy that was trying to get with the uh get the police's attention and and trying to help the shooter get away, material support to a terrorist attack.

00:39:20.000 Correct.

00:39:33.000 It's not about free.

00:39:36.000 Welcome to welcome to to warfare.

00:39:36.000 He helped it.

00:39:39.000 That's it. 0.97

00:39:40.000 Cry, complain, stand on your morals, and be destroyed. 0.78

00:39:44.000 Now, I'm not saying there's a civil war happening right now, despite all the lies from the the writers trying to claim that I am.

00:39:48.000 Because I literally made a video today where I said I do not think we are in a civil war.

00:39:51.000 Uh I made a video responding to a great video by Moon where he said that the assassination of Charlie Kirk will lead to civil war, and he may he did a big uh a large breakdown of this of the case.

00:39:59.000 But let me explain something to you.

00:40:02.000 Um All is fair and love is war, is a saying for a reason. 0.98

00:40:06.000 And what's happening right now is we are beset on both sides, on all sides, from people who intend to destroy our way of life.

00:40:14.000 And I mean all sides, as in you have foreign actors and you have domestic actors.

00:40:19.000 Now, they are going to exploit our laws and our way of life and take away whatever they can from us, and they're gonna they're they're going to uh use our own goodwill against us as they have for a very long time.

00:40:29.000 Let me explain how.

00:40:30.000 We believe in free speech.

00:40:31.000 We want you to have the right to express your opinions, that fear of reprisal uh from the government.

00:40:35.000 Uh We recognize that someone might try and stop you.

00:40:38.000 It's called the Heckler's Veto, but we're opposed to that as well.

00:40:40.000 And if you are speaking your opinion and someone attacks you, that is wrong, and they will be charged.

00:40:44.000 Now the left says you shouldn't have free speech because speech has consequences, and it's hate speech.

00:40:49.000 It says it says all fired, banned, censored for years.

00:40:52.000 And this results in mass censorship, the loss of industry, people have their lives destroyed.

00:40:57.000 Now we are experiencing people on the right getting people fired because they are dancing on the grave of Charlie Kirk.

00:41:02.000 And it is largely just people saying things like he deserved it or whatever, and they're calling their company and they're getting fired.

00:41:07.000 There's a big difference, I will add, between someone saying a naughty word 10 years ago and someone actively dancing on the grave, uh advocating effectively for political violence.

00:41:16.000 But here's the point.

00:41:18.000 We talked about that liberal influencer who uh whose name I'll leave off for now the other day, Elon Musk called for his arrest.

00:41:24.000 Maybe we'll talk about it a second.

00:41:25.000 And what he said was very, very cleverly worded to avoid crossing the line of the First Amendment.

00:41:32.000 He said, and I'm gonna I'm gonna paraphrase the points made in the Piers Morgan debate and uh videos from his own channel.

00:41:40.000 Violence has reached an extreme degree.

00:41:42.000 Seven of ten of the worst protests uh of the biggest protests in the country, more political violence we've ever seen.

00:41:48.000 And if you quote, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Donald Trump shouldn't have been president for the second term.

00:41:55.000 He said in another video, conservatives need to fear being killed, they need to fear death.

00:42:00.000 That is saying it as explicitly as you can without getting into legal trouble.

00:42:05.000 If violence has already reached an extreme degree, to where we've got seven or ten of the biggest protests and people are getting shot and assassinated, literally, what else could happen that would make a conservative fear dying?

00:42:05.000 Why?

00:42:19.000 Well, extreme violence won't do it.

00:42:21.000 He said it's like memes, they don't believe that they'll actually die until one of them does.

00:42:26.000 That's the the implicit.

00:42:28.000 Now, of course, if he came out and said people need to go do X, he'd have crossed the line, he'd get in some legal trouble.

00:42:34.000 If he said, people go out and do this thing, he'd find some incitement charges, there'd be some terroristic threat charges appearing online.

00:42:41.000 But he didn't say it.

00:42:42.000 He said, no, no, I'm just saying once conservatives fear death, they'll tell Trump to knock it off.

00:42:48.000 Which is explicitly stating, or I should say implicitly it's implying, in the in the most legally circuitous way possible, conservatives will die unless the left gets their way, and he is reminding you.

00:43:02.000 Now, the issue that we're dealing with, as Phil mentions terrorism.

00:43:05.000 If someone comes out and says Charlie Kirk got what's coming and people should do more to the rest of them, which they're saying all over the place, and they have lists with my name on it, for instance.

00:43:13.000 Ian, you're correct, you've brought it up before.

00:43:15.000 That's not an imminent threat.

00:43:16.000 That's free speech, right?

00:43:18.000 Technically.

00:43:18.000 It's literal.

00:43:19.000 You are allowed to say that people are deserving of death and that someone should do it or whatever.

00:43:23.000 As long as you don't say you at this time, go do thing.

00:43:26.000 There has to be a direct and imminent threat created for it to cross the line.

00:43:30.000 You are legally allowed to yell fire in a crowded theater.

00:43:32.000 That is a myth.

00:43:33.000 Here's the point I'm making.

00:43:35.000 They should be arrested.

00:43:37.000 Why?

00:43:38.000 Well, I put it like this.

00:43:40.000 Um it is wise to tell someone don't take a bucket full of water and throw it on your kitchen floor, right?

00:43:47.000 Yes.

00:43:48.000 Okay, except when there's a fire.

00:43:50.000 Correct.

00:43:51.000 And that's the problem we're dealing with.

00:43:53.000 We sit here standing in a burning house as they have literally murdered Charlie Kirk, and then they are saying, let us keep waving the death of a conservative in your face so you are too scared to go out.

00:44:06.000 So you will never vote for Trump again.

00:44:08.000 So you will learn your lesson.

00:44:11.000 That's what that's what Destiny said on Piers Morgan Show.

00:44:13.000 Learn your lesson, conservatives.

00:44:15.000 Stop speaking your mind, stop doing events, and maybe then they will decide to stop killing your friends.

00:44:21.000 Now, so far, unfortunately, there's only been a small handful of our friends that have died.

00:44:26.000 And that's because it's not just Charlie Kirk, though he is the most high profile.

00:44:29.000 Everybody remembers Aaron Danielson, who was friends too many conservatives.

00:44:33.000 And he was walking down the street in Portland when Michael Reinall put two bullets in his chest.

00:44:37.000 And the statement from Destiny was very clear. 0.62

00:44:41.000 You shouldn't have voted for Donald Trump then, because the left will murder you.

00:44:44.000 So we get the message.

00:44:46.000 We get the message.

00:44:47.000 And now, when these people go online in their stochastic terroristic fashion and say, y'all deserve what's coming next, and we're watching you.

00:44:55.000 And so I'll be completely honest with everybody.

00:44:57.000 I'm gonna tell you exactly what's going on, complete transparency.

00:45:00.000 With is with great respect and honor that I have been invited to Arizona this Sunday.

00:45:08.000 and it means a lot to me that that the team over there considers this, and I I apologize if I shouldn't be talking about this, but it needs to be said.

00:45:16.000 I do not feel that we can have the security to go.

00:45:19.000 And that was the intention of these terrorists.

00:45:22.000 And it is terror explicitly stating that I cannot go to this funeral.

00:45:26.000 Because they they they can secure the event, and I'm sure it will be the president will be there, but they can't secure the airports, they can't secure the buses, they can't secure the roads, and it is in Arizona where it takes one crackpot.

00:45:37.000 And so this is the conversation I've been having for the past several hours.

00:45:40.000 And I probably shouldn't talk about it in the show, but it needs to be said.

00:45:44.000 When they go on TikTok and say things like, more people are going to die, and you deserve it, it is the intended terrorism.

00:45:52.000 And how do we deal with it?

00:45:54.000 We let people speak freely because of the First Amendment.

00:45:57.000 Well, sometimes, sometimes it is okay to dump water into your home because you're not concerned about the water damage anymore.

00:46:04.000 You're concerned about your home burning down.

00:46:06.000 And when I am living in a reality where people are going online and posting a list of names saying next, that's a death threat.

00:46:13.000 But I'm supposed to be told under the current Supreme Court rulings that this is protected free speech, because they didn't actually articulate anything.

00:46:20.000 You know what?

00:46:20.000 So what do we do as a country?

00:46:22.000 Sorry, real quick, when we are living in a society, we are living in a system where prominent social media platforms will allow a prominent streamer with millions of followers to go out and say, if you didn't want your friend dead, you shouldn't have voted for Trump.

00:46:35.000 I got the message loud and clear, brother.

00:46:37.000 I got it loud and clear.

00:46:38.000 Maybe now Donald Trump, Pam Bondi, whoever else needs to say, if you are speaking terror with the intention to destroy people's lives and make them live in fear so that they will not express their political opinion, this is overt terror.

00:46:51.000 And you want and you know what the argument is?

00:46:52.000 After Charlie Kirk is dead, we are in a very dangerous spot because this is always how authoritarian structures come to rise.

00:46:59.000 We are in an untenable situation that they have created intentionally, because it is my opinion that the left wants a civil war so they can destroy the Constitution.

00:47:08.000 It's the only way to get rid of that piece of paper, which is tethered to shreds but still off offers tremendous protection.

00:47:14.000 And in fact, our gun rights have expanded tremendously since its inception, as is our free speech.

00:47:19.000 But they have put us in a position where they are going online and they are saying, hey, remember when we killed your friend, you're next.

00:47:26.000 That's free speech.

00:47:28.000 That's free speech because they're saying it in clever ways.

00:47:30.000 So I'll put it like this the very simple analogy.

00:47:32.000 Two people are standing on a street corner. 1.00

00:47:34.000 One person screams Nazis should be killed. 0.99

00:47:37.000 It's free speech. 1.00

00:47:38.000 The next person points at you and says, Hey everyone, that's the Nazi.

00:47:42.000 Also free speech. 0.99

00:47:43.000 Together, those statements is go kill that guy, which would violate the law.

00:47:48.000 However, because they split it up between two people, we have to tolerate that they're calling for our deaths, killing our friends, threatening our lives, and making it impossible for me to go to a funeral.

00:47:58.000 And we're in an age of amplification of the common man.

00:48:01.000 Before in the 90s, there's no way you could get a terroristic threat out.

00:48:06.000 You'd have to take over a news station.

00:48:07.000 There's like TV shows about guys breaking. 1.00

00:48:09.000 Now any idiot can pick up their phone and make some veiled threat. 0.99

00:48:13.000 And so we need to basically social, the government is good at using force. 1.00

00:48:19.000 We're good at using diplomacy as civilians.

00:48:32.000 They're not welcome in civil society.

00:48:34.000 That's one way to fight back against it in the modern age with this.

00:48:37.000 But the tools, people, I don't there's so many people that don't understand the power of the amplification of putting a message online right now that are getting wrapped into this.

00:48:46.000 We decided today we will be doing our culture war live events.

00:48:50.000 Oh, based.

00:48:51.000 Nice.

00:48:52.000 We will. 0.96

00:48:52.000 The university events we will not do because they are going online right now saying that I should die and they will kill me. 0.96

00:48:59.000 And they're doing it in ways where when we talk to law enforcement, law enforcement can't do anything about it, nor can we sue them, nor will the social media platforms take this stuff down.

00:49:07.000 Because publishing a list of names is free speech.

00:49:10.000 Well, but you know why they're doing it.

00:49:12.000 And so I will I will tell you guys, in all seriousness, we do not discuss for security reasons for the most part, the issues that we deal with.

00:49:21.000 Only some.

00:49:23.000 And I feel like I I I you know, the conversation I'm having behind the scenes literally 10 minutes before the show starts, is How am I supposed to go fly to this city with all of these posts online saying they're gonna kill me?

00:49:36.000 But they're not doing it explicitly.

00:49:38.000 They're not saying, Mr. Poole, we will find you and you will be and we won't and we'll murder you. 0.98

00:49:43.000 They're just saying, uh, watch your neck. 0.93

00:49:46.000 Not that's free speech.

00:49:48.000 They're saying, I live in I I I live in this city.

00:49:51.000 Hope to see you soon.

00:49:52.000 You might make an argument if someone, because it's about intention there.

00:49:55.000 If they're terrorizing you, if there's an if if if they like Charlie got shot in the neck and then they say watch your neck, there's definite intention.

00:50:01.000 And that is the point about throwing water on your kitchen floor.

00:50:04.000 So check this out.

00:50:05.000 The point real quick is that by all legal standards, saying watch your neck is First Amendment protected speech.

00:50:12.000 You've made the argument that we could now interpret that as a death threat.

00:50:17.000 That is the line, and that is the fear.

00:50:20.000 When the government decides to interpret what is legally clear free speech as a death threat because of context, is when we enter Phil's territory of it is no longer free speech, it is terrorism.

00:50:34.000 And that is a scary thought to me.

00:50:36.000 That this country has come to a point where you can say something that five years ago was an expression of opinion, but in the modern context of assassination and political violence is intended to terrorize and destroy and ruin lives.

00:50:48.000 Now the only solution is we arrest or file civil charges or bring charges against people who are speaking out terroristic threats.

00:51:00.000 Let me ask you guys.

00:51:02.000 These are clearly terroristic threats, are they not?

00:51:04.000 Well, it's about intention.

00:51:05.000 Some of them, maybe.

00:51:06.000 Some people might just be parroting.

00:51:08.000 When someone says something like, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Tim Pool, Michael Knowles, hope to see you soon, winky emoji, and a trans flag. 1.00

00:51:08.000 So let's try this. 1.00

00:51:17.000 It depends on who said it, where they said it.

00:51:20.000 That's indeed.

00:51:21.000 But you know what they mean, right?

00:51:23.000 And so when does it become terrorism?

00:51:23.000 Totally.

00:51:27.000 When does it become explicit threat?

00:51:28.000 It needs to be an explicit call for violence.

00:51:30.000 And that means we will live under their boot where destiny can go on Piers Morgan and say that he that in implicitly, you will be murdered by them, and you know it, and they can threaten your life directly to your face, but they can say it in a way where you will never do anything about it.

00:51:46.000 Totally they're taking advantage of free speech, yes.

00:51:48.000 And that means the only outcome is regular people are being told right now.

00:51:53.000 Charlie Kirk was a moderate, and they killed him.

00:51:57.000 And the message is clear when Destiny goes on Piers Morgan.

00:52:00.000 The message is clear when they these make these posts to all of those who deviated and dared to vote for Trump.

00:52:06.000 You're next.

00:52:06.000 And we can do it.

00:52:07.000 You know why?

00:52:08.000 Because you wouldn't dare lift a finger against us.

00:52:10.000 That's what you're saying.

00:52:11.000 And that is the fear I have.

00:52:12.000 The choices we have are let them post implicit death threats in context.

00:52:17.000 We get what they're saying, and we can't prosecute them, or decide to cross that line and say, we understand your intent.

00:52:24.000 That's a terroristic threat, and you will go to jail for it.

00:52:27.000 So do you believe hate speech is a thing?

00:52:29.000 No.

00:52:30.000 Well, yes, it is.

00:52:32.000 Okay, because uh on this point, I wanted to follow up um with you on something that Pam Bondi said.

00:52:38.000 Hate speech is real.

00:52:40.000 Hate speech is free speech.

00:52:42.000 You are allowed to have speech in which it's hateful.

00:52:44.000 So let's define hate speech.

00:52:46.000 Hate speech is typically defined in a broad sense as language that demeans the rides protected categories.

00:52:51.000 It exists.

00:52:52.000 And we can give a a broad name to the behavior.

00:52:56.000 That's fine.

00:52:57.000 Now, whether we make that illegal, that's wrong.

00:53:00.000 That's distinct from like people calling from violence.

00:53:02.000 Hate speech is distinct from that.

00:53:03.000 Okay, because there's this let's pull up the Pam Bondi hate speech thing, and so we can we can move on before I lose my mind.

00:53:09.000 Because that's exactly where you're going, though.

00:53:11.000 I mean, this is the exact issue um she's dealing with, because then I think you shouldn't.

00:53:14.000 Let's pull this up.

00:53:15.000 Here's a story from CNN.

00:53:16.000 Pam Bondi's hate speech comments lead even some conservatives to cry foul. 1.00

00:53:21.000 They say within hours of Charlie Kirk's assassination, Donald Trump signaled a rather curious crackdown.

00:53:26.000 My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it.

00:53:34.000 There was no evidence last week that the shooter was anything other than a lone wolf actor, and there still isn't.

00:53:39.000 There is evidence because people had foreknowledge.

00:53:39.000 False.

00:53:42.000 I didn't say proof, but evidence.

00:53:44.000 Try harder, CNN.

00:53:45.000 It wasn't difficult difficult to see how such a thing could get out of hand.

00:53:49.000 And the administration has done little in the days, blah, blah, blah.

00:53:52.000 Conservative activists activists are already drawing attention to random people who celebrated Kirk's death online, while some GOP lawmakers are pushing for employers to fire workers Who posted things such as their lack of sympathy for Kirk's murder.

00:54:03.000 Even Attorney General Pam Bondi and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller have criticized employees who allegedly refused to print posters honoring Kirk with Bondy saying they could be prosecuted.

00:54:13.000 Trump on Monday said he'd consider naming far left antifa movement domestic terrorists.

00:54:18.000 And people I'm gonna pause real quick.

00:54:20.000 Antifa is an international association.

00:54:22.000 It can be named a foreign terrorist organization.

00:54:24.000 I digress.

00:54:26.000 In the Oval Office on Monday, the president responded to a conservative journalist who said the anti-war protesters near the White House still have their First Amendment right.

00:54:33.000 Yeah, well, I'm not so sure.

00:54:35.000 Through it all, many on the right largely shrugged.

00:54:37.000 But Bondy on Monday made it so some of them could no longer shrug.

00:54:40.000 They quickly cried foul over her comments on a podcast that the Justice Department would go after hate speech. 0.95

00:54:45.000 The National Review's Charles C. Cook wagered the Supreme Court would reject Bondi's view nine to zero.

00:54:51.000 She should know this, Britt Hume said.

00:54:53.000 Conservative radio host Eric Eric Erickson wagered that such a standard could lead to prosecutions of preachers for opposing gay marriage.

00:55:00.000 Even vehemently pro-Trump pundits flatly rejected it.

00:55:03.000 Charlie Kirk literally died defending the principle that Pam Bondi is trashing, said right-wing influencer Hans Monk.

00:55:09.000 Just unreal.

00:55:10.000 Now, the point brought up before this segment is right now what we are experiencing is the left using concurrent statements and actions to terrorize and threaten death on people like me.

00:55:23.000 It's personal.

00:55:24.000 And they are they are doing it in a way where they fragment the threats so they don't cross the threshold into illegality.

00:55:32.000 In order for speech to be illegal, it has to, well, there's a there's a few categories.

00:55:37.000 Fraudulent, meaning you lie to someone with the intent to take resources from from them, in which case your presentation and delivery of information, the speech, is actually committing a crime.

00:55:46.000 But we're not talking about that.

00:55:47.000 We're talking about when does someone say something, and that is creating a clear and imminent threat, which means you have to tell a person you go do this, or do this at this time.

00:55:59.000 So if you told someone to commit a crime and said, here at this time, you have created an imminent threat, you have crossed the line, you are participant in that crime.

00:56:06.000 What we're experiencing now and the challenge we face, the knee-jerk reaction for many conservatives to cry foul over the over hate speech makes sense.

00:56:13.000 But what's happened is in the simplest of terms, I'll give you the broad de the broad explanation.

00:56:18.000 First, Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

00:56:20.000 Prominent liberals are saying he deserved it.

00:56:25.000 And then many others are saying, y'all are next, and they're putting up lists.

00:56:28.000 The message is clear.

00:56:30.000 While no individual is telling you you are going, they are instructing someone to kill you, so they've not created an imminent threat.

00:56:37.000 Together, they create an imminent threat where not a single one can be prosecuted.

00:56:42.000 This is speech black block tactics, I would call it.

00:56:45.000 Well, let me let me let me just wrap this up.

00:56:48.000 Okay, read the quote.

00:56:49.000 This is important here because the quotes fired up a lot of people.

00:56:51.000 She said, There's free speech, then there's hate speech, and there's no place, especially now, especially what happened to uh after what happened to Charlie in our society.

00:56:58.000 We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything that crosses the aisle.

00:57:04.000 And she's wrong, because hate speech means using uh language that demeans a specific social group or class of people.

00:57:11.000 Yeah.

00:57:12.000 And that is that is protected, and that's that's unambiguous.

00:57:16.000 And she should resign. 0.98

00:57:17.000 And it's stupid of her to say, and I feel like she's been dropping the ball on this and and some other issues. 0.98

00:57:22.000 I mean, I really feel like it's a a very aggressive, unforced error. 0.98

00:57:25.000 Everybody on the right has been slamming her indeed on this one thing.

00:57:29.000 But but but so let me clarify something real quick.

00:57:31.000 The issue we're dealing with right now, with that context in mind, is that if an individual said, Tim Poole, I'm going to kill you, and I'm going to do it at this point, like that's a death threat.

00:57:43.000 I can actually contact the FBI and they will be criminally charged and I'll get a restraining order or protection or something like that.

00:57:49.000 But when they say someone should kill Tim Poole because he's a Nazi, and then another person says in response to that post, or just another post, here's Tim Poole's address.

00:57:59.000 Another person then responds with, I'm gonna come meet you, Tim, at your house at this address. 0.54

00:58:04.000 We understand what they did.

00:58:06.000 They fragmented the death threat into three pieces so that you can't prosecute any one of them.

00:58:13.000 I then personally have a terroristic threat made against my life, which is explicit and in front of my face, and this has literally been happening, and I'm told by law enforcement we can't do anything about it.

00:58:24.000 They're allowed to do that.

00:58:25.000 How about we get specific and I'll give you an example.

00:58:25.000 Can I ask you then?

00:58:27.000 There's a prominent leftist uh Twitch Creator that constantly promotes violence and uses euphemisms of violence against the right and justifies violence against the right.

00:58:36.000 Do you think they should be banned off Twitch?

00:58:38.000 Uh who?

00:58:39.000 I'm talking about Hassan, yeah.

00:58:41.000 Uh well, I'll I'll be careful to say I haven't seen enough of Hassan's content, and out of context videos aren't enough for me to make determination.

00:58:48.000 I've seen the videos that have circulated on X where Hassan said stuff like got him and things like that.

00:58:53.000 And uh I think he's expressed support or tacit for support for Hezbollah, Hamas, terrorist organizations.

00:59:00.000 He said um America deserved 911, I believe is what I'm saying. 0.96

00:59:03.000 Yeah, that's all free speech.

00:59:03.000 It's more famous quotes.

00:59:05.000 Um, totally, but we're we're talking about this line, right?

00:59:07.000 Of where they're encouraging violence against the right.

00:59:09.000 I know he's going on spiels of encouraging violence again violence against right wingers and how the uh Zionists should be unperson, they shouldn't be welcomed in society, they should be treated very I get it. 1.00

00:59:19.000 Supporting foreign terror organizations verbally is free speech, explicitly supporting Israel or rejecting Israel, you are allowed to express those opinions.

00:59:29.000 Now, if a prominent streamer said, if you didn't want Charlie Kirk, if if you wanted Charlie Kirk alive, Donald Trump shouldn't have been the president in the second term.

00:59:39.000 And then lay and a different show, I believe before this said conservatives need to be made to fear, or conservatives need to fear that they will be killed when they go out.

00:59:48.000 We understand the intention of that when you say when when the first part of that is after Charlie Kirk's assassination, you are saying if you express your political views through the ballot box, the left will murder you.

01:00:03.000 So the message there is now clear, but did it cross the line into illegality?

01:00:06.000 It did not.

01:00:06.000 So it goes right before the line and says, Whoa, we know what he's saying, but he didn't say anybody should go individually take an action.

01:00:13.000 Then someone on Instagram or on threads or on X says, Here's an idea and posts a list of names.

01:00:20.000 My name's in it.

01:00:21.000 And I know what the context of that means.

01:00:25.000 Everyone does.

01:00:26.000 A judge would.

01:00:27.000 They'd look at that and say, We know exactly what you are saying with that.

01:00:31.000 But it doesn't cross the line.

01:00:34.000 We now live in a society where I can look at Tweedledee and Tweedledumb, send me a death threat because one talks and the other finishes, and the law does nothing about it.

01:00:45.000 Now we all agree, as a society, the law says you can't send death threats.

01:00:50.000 You can't, you can't issue death threats, v verbally written or otherwise.

01:00:53.000 That's a crime. 0.96

01:00:54.000 But when Tweedled D says, I think someone needs to kill a Nazi, and then Tweedledum goes, hey look, everyone, there's the Nazi. 1.00

01:01:01.000 We know that they just said go kill him. 0.99

01:01:04.000 And we've seen this taken place.

01:01:05.000 When Luke Rodkowski was mercilessly beaten in Germany, because some random guy point at him and yelled, Nazi Schreinhound, and the other random people ran up and started punching him, ran and they didn't even know why.

01:01:16.000 They didn't know or care.

01:01:18.000 It is a mob.

01:01:19.000 And and we when we see this, this was what?

01:01:22.000 Seven years ago.

01:01:23.000 Luke was pummeled and beaten in Germany, a journalist with another young journalist.

01:01:28.000 They were both beaten, and one had serious damage to his, I think to his knee, because someone yelled Nazi.

01:01:34.000 We know why they say this.

01:01:36.000 I think Phil and Blair had a similar tweet. 0.97

01:01:38.000 They don't call you a fascist because they want to kill you.

01:01:41.000 They what is it?

01:01:42.000 What is quote? 1.00

01:01:43.000 Call you a fascist because they want to kill you, they call you a fascist in order to make it to make it okay to kill you. 1.00

01:01:50.000 They don't believe you're a fascist. 1.00

01:01:51.000 Oh, I'm sorry, it's they don't want to kill you because they're a fascist, they call you a fascist so that they can kill you. 1.00

01:01:55.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:01:55.000 So here's my here's the issue right now. 0.98

01:01:57.000 I agree, Pam Bondi's statement was bad.

01:01:59.000 However, how do we reconcile that with the internet and social media, the ability of individuals to collectively issue death threats, they are now immune from prosecution.

01:02:08.000 On top of that, I will add, Antifa and far left black bloc tactics have made them immune from prosecution as well for physical violence. 0.57

01:02:16.000 Because, like we saw in 2017, when 200 or so individuals got together, organized and wore the same thing, they set fires to the streets, they smashed windows, and when the police arrested him, they they had the charges dropped, sued the city, and won.

01:02:33.000 The city couldn't prosecute any individual because the argument is always, is there reasonable doubt?

01:02:39.000 And when you ask a jury, they say, What clothes was the man wearing?

01:02:45.000 A black hoodie, a black mask, sunglasses and black jeans.

01:02:48.000 And you grabbed him after he threw a Moltoff cocktail.

01:02:51.000 I did.

01:02:51.000 And how many other people were there wearing a black hoodie, sunglasses, a black mask, and black jeans?

01:02:56.000 And and it 200?

01:02:58.000 So how do you know you grabbed the right guy.

01:03:01.000 Because I saw him do it.

01:03:02.000 And then the defense looks at the jury and says, Do you believe beyond a reasonable doubt that that man grabbed the right guy?

01:03:09.000 And they go, no, acquitted.

01:03:10.000 Free to go.

01:03:11.000 They have made themselves immune to prosecution when they fire bomb buildings.

01:03:15.000 They have made themselves immune to prosecution when they issue death threats.

01:03:18.000 What do we do?

01:03:20.000 Well, honest question.

01:03:21.000 Because they've exploited our goodwill and our and our uh our it's called the liberal democracy.

01:03:26.000 I know it's not an actual democracy, but we refer to societies where we allow the individuals to our representation, constitutional republic with democratically represented indiv uh uh uh uh dep democratically elected representatives.

01:03:39.000 They have exploited the system we've built.

01:03:42.000 They are destroying the fabric of it because it was intended for a good moral people who act in good faith, and they don't.

01:03:49.000 So I'm just saying this.

01:03:51.000 The question before us right now is if someone goes online and makes a veiled threat that can be that can be interpreted as one, like we know what they're saying.

01:04:02.000 When someone says something like, just found your address online, Tim Pool.

01:04:06.000 I'm coming to meet you.

01:04:08.000 How's Charlie?

01:04:10.000 That's free speech.

01:04:11.000 But you know what the intention is.

01:04:13.000 And they're doing things like that like crazy.

01:04:16.000 They're posting online saying, How's your friend Charlie?

01:04:19.000 How's you how you know, how are things going out in West Virginia?

01:04:22.000 Here's a list of people that we're gonna put out there just because.

01:04:27.000 Then someone says something like, I think I'm gonna follow up on that list exactly how you'd expect.

01:04:31.000 They're making TikTok videos where they say, Who's gonna go do it?

01:04:36.000 You know what it means, and everyone knows what it means, but it's free speech.

01:04:39.000 Yeah.

01:04:40.000 Normally, we we can't function this way.

01:04:41.000 When you take the puzzle piece, each person's statement is a piece of a puzzle that makes an obvious image, it's conspiracy, but you need a crime to have happened for it to become known as a conspiracy.

01:04:51.000 Until then, it's like, yeah, can't prove that they're conspiring until something bad happens, and you're like, I don't know, but doesn't work.

01:04:57.000 I keep looking at Solinsky, dude.

01:04:58.000 Solinski who wants to, I don't know if he's communist or what rules for radicals.

01:05:02.000 The real re the real action is in the enemy's reaction.

01:05:04.000 That is what we have to be aware of is that whatever the reaction to this is.

01:05:11.000 It's not an answer, but that's my point.

01:05:13.000 The left has boxed us in intentionally to make a choice.

01:05:16.000 They can either terrorize us and engage in overt stochastic terrorism. 0.95

01:05:21.000 That's their term, or we can ask Trump to put a stop to it.

01:05:25.000 Either way, they have a contingency in place.

01:05:27.000 It's a rockin' hard place.

01:05:28.000 But I'll just point it point out this.

01:05:30.000 We've highlighted this quite a bit recently.

01:05:32.000 DC to pay 1.6 million of settled claims from 2017 inauguration day demonstrations.

01:05:37.000 Infuriating.

01:05:38.000 The government charged these individuals in the black bloc, these far leftists, with conspiracy, because their argument with is when you all dress the same to cover up the crimes of those around you and make it hard to prosecute, you have conspired. 0.55

01:05:51.000 They lost, were sued, and lost again, and we the taxpayer paid 1.6 million to far leftists who we know, and I filmed firebomb.

01:06:00.000 I can't believe that they lost that court case.

01:06:03.000 And it's it's likely because of the who the actual judge was in it, because it's a uh, you know, judge appointed by the left.

01:06:12.000 He was a leftist, and he didn't think they did anything particularly bad.

01:06:17.000 And it's horrible that we have to live under that this the situation.

01:06:20.000 Um the only thing I can think of is you know, do everything you can to have conservatives appointing the judges, but it that's not actually a solution.

01:06:31.000 Well, I think I I just think Tim's point, I mean, put it perfectly, is they're exploiting our goodwill and like carefully using the word exploiting.

01:06:38.000 I mean, because we're you just have to believe these people when they when they say these things.

01:06:42.000 Like that's just the point we're at, is I don't know how many more people will have to die until conservatives realize this.

01:06:48.000 It's like you have to believe these people when they're saying these things.

01:06:51.000 Ladies and gentlemen, let's jump to this poll from Ugov.

01:06:54.000 As far as you know, is the person who shot Charlie Kirk, a Democrat Republican, neither or not sure.

01:07:00.000 Among all adults, 21% of adults think that the shooter was a Democrat.

01:07:04.000 24 think he was a Republican.

01:07:06.000 That means the public would be wrong.

01:07:08.000 15% said neither, and 40% said not sure.

01:07:10.000 Before we move forward with the rest of this, I want to show you this article from the telegraph.

01:07:14.000 Charlie Kirk suspect was uh was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate.

01:07:19.000 Tyler Robinson was arrested after someone he was living with handed evidence to the FBI.

01:07:24.000 I don't think it is typical of Republicans to be living, uh having romantic relationships with trans people unless the left wants to argue now that the right is pro-trans.

01:07:34.000 Let me make sure I can get more context for you and pull up a statement from the Utah governor.

01:07:39.000 So we can add to this.

01:07:41.000 And we will use um let's see.

01:07:45.000 Let's go with the independent.

01:07:46.000 And we'll grab a couple more just to make sure this is clear.

01:07:48.000 Charlie Kirk shooting suspect was on the left, but motive still unclear.

01:07:52.000 Utah governor says, let's try uh another source.

01:07:56.000 Let's do the Washington Post.

01:07:59.000 Uh, here we go.

01:08:00.000 A separate source.

01:08:01.000 Kirk shooting suspect had leftist ideology, but motive unclear.

01:08:05.000 Okay, I think the Washington Post, the Telegraph, and the Independent are good enough sources for those that are watching this video to now understand that while this guy was not a Democrat or a Republican, uh, he was a left aligned individual, which puts him in the Democrat political camp.

01:08:23.000 So this is a poorly worded question, to be completely honest.

01:08:26.000 But the answers given are remarkable.

01:08:30.000 By region, this is funny.

01:08:32.000 In the Northeast, 20% said Democrat, 23% Republican.

01:08:36.000 The Midwest, 25% said Democrat, 24% Republican.

01:08:39.000 You all know why that is?

01:08:41.000 Because y'all in the Midwest are big viewers of Tim Cast IRL.

01:08:44.000 Thank you for watching.

01:08:45.000 Very good.

01:08:45.000 It actually is true.

01:08:46.000 Chicago is our biggest, probably because I'm Chicago politics.

01:08:49.000 Let's go by gender.

01:08:51.000 Uh 22% of males think he's a Democrat, 24% a Republican.

01:08:56.000 20% of females a Democrat, 25% a Republican.

01:09:00.000 Which they'd be wrong by politics.

01:09:04.000 Democrats, when asked, as far as you know is the person who shot Charlie Kirk, 41% said he was a Republican.

01:09:13.000 41% of Democrats incorrectly said the shooter was a Republican.

01:09:18.000 Why?

01:09:19.000 Because liberals, like Politics Girl, who I believe is Midas Touch, fabricated information and flooded the zone.

01:09:26.000 She among many.

01:09:27.000 And in and I believe it was intentional to confuse and obfuscate the fact that it appears the motivating factor of Charlie Kirk's assassination was transgender ideology.

01:09:38.000 I will stress, while transgender ideology isn't typically associated with left economic policy, it is progressive ideology.

01:09:46.000 And there's one important distinction here.

01:09:49.000 If you are quote unquote on the left, you have there is no issue whatsoever in you publicly stating you don't want socialist economic policy.

01:09:58.000 They won't care.

01:09:59.000 There are only a couple of issues that you can say that will excise you from the left, and one of them is opposition to gender ideology, which puts it squarely on the left.

01:10:10.000 So if you think a Republican had a transgender lover, that's very strange considering what Democrats actually fight for.

01:10:20.000 Now, when Republicans were asked, 40% said he was a Democrat.

01:10:24.000 To be fair, Democrat aligned makes sense, but the question is poorly worded, as he was politically unaffiliated, in which case neither is technically the correct answer.

01:10:33.000 But if we're that this is why, if you're actually asking this question, you should respond with left aligned, right aligned, or liberal or conservative leaning.

01:10:45.000 But we understand the intent behind this.

01:10:47.000 Democrats are wrong, Republicans are right.

01:10:50.000 Democrats were tricked into believing something that is not true.

01:10:53.000 How do we function when you have people like Jimmy Kimmel intentionally lying?

01:11:00.000 Politics Girl, intentionally lying, the Krasensteens, Destiny, all of them, and they know they're lying.

01:11:08.000 I am not playing this game. 0.98

01:11:10.000 I am not stupid, and I will not be manipulated by people who are going to try and and tear on your heartstrings and exploit your goodwill while they advocate for death and murder. 0.99

01:11:21.000 They know they're lying. 0.99

01:11:22.000 Why?

01:11:23.000 Some of these things are so absurd to believe in the first place that you with you have to intentionally look, you'd have to be developmentally disabled to make some of these statements that these people have made.

01:11:32.000 Like Jimmy Kimmel doesn't have a team of people who can use Google.

01:11:35.000 The in the the how many press conferences have we had where they're like, he had a trans lover and was la and he was leftist aligned.

01:11:43.000 The Guardian reported that he had a his friend said he was a leftist, the only left person in his family.

01:11:47.000 The mother stated that he had been pushed to the left, that the father called him because the father was upset that the kid was dating a man, that the guy was dating a man that he was gay.

01:11:56.000 Axios reported the Gruper thing was a lie.

01:11:59.000 Axios Reported six independent sources familiar with the investigation said the motivating factor may be his transgender lover.

01:12:06.000 I think they said roommate.

01:12:07.000 And Democrats still believe fake reality.

01:12:11.000 So when Politics Girl makes a video and she's like, turns out he came from a conservative background, and the engravings on the gun were just markings from a manufacturer.

01:12:20.000 There is no way, no way she wasn't aware that she was reading lies directly into that camera.

01:12:26.000 How do you live in a place like this?

01:12:28.000 It's tough because they're doing their best to place the blame, you know, on conservatives.

01:12:35.000 And this is kind of modus operandi.

01:12:38.000 Like the way that the ADL had a uh accumulate or taken the information that they got for that uh the the right is actually responsible for most of the political violence and stuff, they went into pol they went to uh into prisons, and every time there was a white supremacist that got into a fight with someone, that was they called that politically motivated.

01:12:59.000 And and it's it's intended to create this narrative that the left never does anything wrong, and it's always the right.

01:13:09.000 And when it is the left, well, it was justified.

01:13:12.000 And you can see that by the way people reacted on TikTok and on Instagram and reels and stuff like that.

01:13:18.000 It's you know, I just saw a post from Andy No, shout out to Andy No.

01:13:22.000 Something I didn't consider in the previous story, but I'll bring up now is we're we're in the general conversation.

01:13:28.000 I think it is now uh fair to say that we have proof that we literally just showed the shooter did not act alone.

01:13:37.000 Andy Noah has a great post.

01:13:39.000 The shooter, according to the messages released by uh, I believe by the DOJ and the sheriff and police, was of the shooter instructing his lover to destroy incriminating evidence.

01:13:51.000 And they had stressed that the letter that said he was going to kill Charlie had been destroyed, and they found forensic evidence of it.

01:13:59.000 And the messages that they recovered from Discord, I believe they said had been destroyed, which would imply that while he may not org he may not have organized uh we may not have direct proof that the shooter organized the assassination with help.

01:14:12.000 I think we have evidence that he did.

01:14:14.000 Other people knew about it.

01:14:15.000 So it he perhaps he worked fair fair point.

01:14:17.000 Perhaps he worked alone, but he told people what he was doing.

01:14:20.000 However, as far as the crime goes, yeah, I can't believe I missed this one.

01:14:25.000 Shout out to Andy No. 0.51

01:14:26.000 Instructing an individual to destroy evidence implicates you in that crime.

01:14:30.000 Not for the murder, but for the destruction of evidence.

01:14:32.000 If they actually destroy the evidence, yeah.

01:14:33.000 And they did.

01:14:34.000 That's then.

01:14:34.000 That's what I asked on that on that segment earlier.

01:14:36.000 Did he actually destroy the text messages?

01:14:38.000 And if he did, he becomes an accomplice.

01:14:41.000 You're right, right.

01:14:42.000 Yeah.

01:14:42.000 And deleting them counts as destroying evidence, right?

01:14:44.000 I believe, yes.

01:14:46.000 Someone tells you they're they just committed a felony and you delete it and they say please delete it, and you delete it, you're accomplished.

01:14:51.000 But not just that, uh, I believe that it was cash.

01:14:54.000 I could be wrong.

01:14:54.000 Someone had made a statement that there was a letter saying that the shooter said he had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and he was going to do it.

01:15:01.000 They said the note was destroyed, but they found forensic evidence of it.

01:15:04.000 I thought it was a digital message.

01:15:06.000 From what they've reported, it was a note he wrote and put under his keyboard and then told his lover to lift a keyboard and take a look who saw the letter.

01:15:13.000 If that indeed was destroyed, then that's, I believe it's probably what many felonies?

01:15:20.000 Interesting.

01:15:20.000 Yep.

01:15:25.000 So being an investigation.

01:15:26.000 To the to the point of this uh Ugov Um poll.

01:15:34.000 Guys, subscribe to my channel at Tim Poole.

01:15:37.000 It's on Rumble and YouTube, new videos.

01:15:40.000 I did an asset, I did uh uh a review assessments reaction to uh a video from a YouTube channel called Moon, where he says he argued the assassination of Charlie Kirk will bring about civil war.

01:15:51.000 That was the title.

01:15:53.000 And he points out that, as we have, there is no reconciliation because each group lives in an entirely different universe.

01:16:03.000 And that means that the other group isn't becomes an existential threat.

01:16:08.000 I think it is clear to say right now, I have proven to all of you the shooter was not a Republican.

01:16:14.000 If your argument is that Republicans are transphobic, then you have a cognitive dissonance because why would a Republican that you believe is transphobic be living with a trans roommate and kill one of the most, if not the most prominent prominent conservative activists in the country?

01:16:30.000 That does not make a lick of sense.

01:16:33.000 Furthermore, I've shown you numerous articles and statements showing that officials said this was a leftist aligned person with a trans roommate, so it is clear.

01:16:40.000 If you still believe that the shooter was a Republican, you you have cognitive dissonance.

01:16:46.000 But more to the point, it is it is clear now to all of you who don't that Democrats clearly do.

01:16:55.000 How do we live in a society with terroristic threats, violence, assassinations from people who believe two plus two equals five?

01:17:04.000 Also not an exaggeration.

01:17:06.000 Yeah, but what do you think I was just gonna say real quick is like I mean, this isn't even like 2020 where you could chalk this up to propaganda or gaslighting or that sort of thing.

01:17:14.000 You have main jokes mainstream outlets saying this guy was a leftist and Democrats are still digging their heels in.

01:17:20.000 So it's like you can't even chalk this one up to propaganda this time.

01:17:23.000 This is just straight up cognitive dissonance.

01:17:25.000 This is straight up.

01:17:26.000 Cognitive dissonance for some, but it's also there's a motivation.

01:17:31.000 There's a there's a huge social incentive right now to double down on this.

01:17:35.000 So earlier we were asking what what should the response be given all these threats, given that the constitution was made for a moral and religious people and leftists in our country are not that.

01:17:46.000 How do we react to people who are bending at the fabric of our constitution and our society?

01:17:50.000 I think we need to double down on the values that Charlie Kirk espoused and continue to continue his legacy and how he went about his advocacy.

01:17:59.000 I think uh when people try to terrorize conservative outside of college campuses, we need to double down and continue going to college campuses.

01:18:05.000 I don't think we need to run away from free speech.

01:18:08.000 I think we need to double down on free speech.

01:18:10.000 I think cracking down on free speech would be antithetical to all of Charlie Kirk's values.

01:18:14.000 So I I think Tim, I I think you have like uh a reason to be afraid and concerned about going to Charlie Kirk's wedding.

01:18:20.000 But I think like funeral.

01:18:22.000 Funeral oh yeah.

01:18:23.000 Um wear black at their wedding because it's a kind of funeral.

01:18:28.000 And like the values he talked about were getting married, getting married early and be in being religious.

01:18:32.000 But I guess living in fear would um really only encourage more terrorism because then they'd be accomplishing their goal and you'd be further incentivizing their goal.

01:18:41.000 Also recently came out the speakers for Charlie Kirk's um uh memorial service, um, President Trump, Vice President Trump, Erica Kirk, White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, um, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, RFK Jr., Pete Hagseth, Tulsi Gabbard, um, Donald Trump Jr.

01:18:59.000 Indeed.

01:19:00.000 I think it would be meaningful if you were able to uh yeah, I'm not like a speaker or anything like that.

01:19:05.000 Yeah.

01:19:06.000 And they have uh uh secure sections for high profile individuals, and it's it's a weird thing to say, but we I have so many death threats.

01:19:14.000 The question is, not the event, which would obviously be amazing, but look, it's an extremely high profile event in in Arizona, and this means that I have to have uh 24-7 security detail, I'll be confined to my hotel.

01:19:30.000 This is the reality of going into places like this right now, we're a week out.

01:19:34.000 Now I get it.

01:19:36.000 I can uh do the basic disguise thing and you know, try and figure things out and do stuff like that.

01:19:42.000 And my point is not that I wouldn't go.

01:19:45.000 The point is not that fear has kept me confined to my house and I won't even go outside anymore or anything like that.

01:19:51.000 No, there's a thing called courage.

01:19:52.000 Courage does not mean you don't have fear, it means that even when you're afraid, you still push forward.

01:19:57.000 The the issue that I bring up with this debate is that they have created an air of terror that for a fact, we uh I already who are we talking with Connor Tomlinson when he said there were conservatives who did not go to the Unite the Kingdom rally because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

01:20:15.000 Yeah.

01:20:15.000 So Charlie Kirk is assassinated by a leftist.

01:20:18.000 Now I think it's fair to say confirmed, and they go online and say, you are next, we know where you are, and we're coming for you.

01:20:26.000 The purpose is to terrify as many people as possible, and to be completely honest, the threat of death is real.

01:20:34.000 It's a real, it's a real death threat.

01:20:36.000 So you've got now got to weigh the risks you are willing to take and what risks and and and why.

01:20:42.000 And so the question of the university event that I was gonna be doing with Alex Stein, that was gonna be in a month, and we're canceling that.

01:20:50.000 I think Alex said he was canceling all of his university events because you can't secure it.

01:20:56.000 Does it make sense in a time of political assassinations and death threats For me to go out in the public to try and talk with 500 people when I can do my show and reach millions.

01:21:09.000 Why would I risk losing my opportunity to speak and call these things out for that?

01:21:16.000 And so for that, we've canceled it.

01:21:17.000 That being said, for the events that we're doing for the Culture War Live, they're indoor with full security screenings.

01:21:24.000 We are still making concessions.

01:21:26.000 I've long said I believe in the second amendment, and if I'm gonna go in public and people want to be armed, then so be it.

01:21:31.000 But now the question is, I can't.

01:21:34.000 Because one because they're actively trying to kill us, expressing the desire to do so, and largely getting away with the threats.

01:21:40.000 I think you're right, Elad, that we do uh Phil, sorry, let me I'll rattle this off and then jump over to you really quick.

01:21:45.000 That we do need to double down on the Charlie's message, which is free speech.

01:21:49.000 That is the essence, but the tactics, we've got to be smart because if it if you're in combat and the enemy develops a new artillery that can hit your far back line and they wipe out squadrons of men, you don't go, you know what?

01:22:01.000 I'm gonna keep doing it because it's the right and you you stop moving people into that position.

01:22:05.000 You start moving into different positions now that there's a new tactic.

01:22:08.000 This isn't about free speech.

01:22:10.000 Right.

01:22:11.000 This is not about free speech.

01:22:13.000 The point, the reason why Tim is talking about safety issues and whether or not he's going to go, is because this is about terrorism.

01:22:21.000 We keep bringing up free speech as if this is about reasonable discourse.

01:22:27.000 This is not about discourse.

01:22:29.000 This is about intent to chill political uh political expression.

01:22:36.000 It's about terrorism.

01:22:38.000 So continuing to talk about this as if it's a free speech issue is that it's a good idea.

01:22:42.000 It's not about this.

01:22:44.000 It's the very essence of how we speak out against the church.

01:22:47.000 This is the point.

01:22:48.000 Okay, then do you think we should arrest someone who says, Hey, Tim, I'm coming to meet you.

01:22:53.000 I got your address.

01:22:55.000 How's your friend Charlie doing?

01:22:56.000 No, I understand I understand the points that you're making.

01:22:58.000 That person be arrested.

01:22:59.000 No, no, they shouldn't.

01:23:00.000 I'm asking you.

01:23:01.000 I'm talking to you.

01:23:02.000 Okay, but the point, but no, he shouldn't.

01:23:04.000 And I don't think that he should.

01:23:05.000 But that's that's I understand the and I understand the points that you're making.

01:23:09.000 But the the topic that we're actually discussing or that we should be discussing is how the federal government is going to make sure that people can express themselves politically.

01:23:21.000 Of course, we can't do anything about people that are going to make allusions and and say things like that and use multiple people to try to intimidate, you know, multiple multiple statements to try to try to intimidate people.

01:23:33.000 But the point is we need to use the the all of the powers of the federal government to prevent these types of actions from happening in the first that's not possible.

01:23:45.000 That's why we have a second amendment. 1.00

01:23:47.000 But you protect yourself, it's not the federal government that's impossible.

01:23:50.000 Ian, it's you.

01:23:51.000 Amy Klobuchar today was talking to Cash Patel at the Senate hearing, and she had this really great statement for about two minutes before it turned into garbage.

01:23:58.000 And she was saying, I'm sorry for your loss, this political violence is really bad.

01:24:02.000 Charlie Kirk, you know, shouldn't have been killed.

01:24:04.000 There wasn't Minnesota lawmakers, they also died.

01:24:07.000 Cash said, I'm sorry for your loss as well.

01:24:09.000 This is really bad.

01:24:10.000 And then she said, the right's doing it, and we need to ban guns. 0.82

01:24:13.000 Banning guns will not do anything.

01:24:15.000 There, there you cannot like this is the conversation I have with security.

01:24:19.000 There isn't there is no such thing as perfect security.

01:24:23.000 It's it's impossible.

01:24:25.000 The government cannot keep you safe.

01:24:27.000 It is impossible.

01:24:28.000 The government struggles to keep itself safe.

01:24:30.000 So what are we what are we talking about then?

01:24:33.000 No one's allowed to carry knives like in the UK.

01:24:35.000 So then they carry screwdrivers and they ban screwdrivers.

01:24:38.000 So then someone carries a cricket bet and they ban that.

01:24:40.000 And then someone puts takes has a padlock and they're like, you're gonna wrap a shoelace around that padlock and ban that.

01:24:46.000 People will find a way.

01:24:48.000 And this is the terrifying reality of hyperpartisan hyperpolarization and conflict.

01:24:55.000 That there is nothing the federal government can do that will stop a single lunatic leftist from taking a knife, showing up at a conservative event, and in a split second, that knife can take out a lot of people.

01:25:09.000 I kept thinking about things you we've all talked about, and particularly where's the off-ramp, a question that's been in my head for a week thinking about Phil, and I made a video about it today on YouTube.

01:25:18.000 I'm the off-ramp.

01:25:20.000 You are the off-ramp if you want to be.

01:25:22.000 It's a constant struggle.

01:25:24.000 It will never stop.

01:25:25.000 It's like driving through a road and we're taking shots.

01:25:28.000 We have a mission.

01:25:31.000 But yeah, but like beyond that, we should also be very careful to like project what Charlie's reaction to this would be.

01:25:38.000 Because the the next closest person is Erica Kirk, and she was very explicit that we need to crush this political violence. 0.99

01:25:44.000 And and and she gave Trump the green light to do what he needs to do to end this.

01:25:48.000 So it's like we should also be very careful, like projecting, oh, Charlie was the free speech guy.

01:25:55.000 He was, but the the paradigm has changed.

01:25:57.000 This is not just free speech exclusively.

01:26:00.000 They're literally sending they're sending explicit threats in Minecraft because they think that's like a loophole.

01:26:04.000 And enough.

01:26:06.000 Look, I I get death threats myself.

01:26:08.000 I got a very explicit one today on on X, and I retweeted it just because I want to make sure that these things are public.

01:26:14.000 But the fact of the matter is, like you said, Erica Trump made the Kirk. 0.98

01:26:20.000 Or I'm sorry, Erica Kirk made the point that this is not just about a free speech issue.

01:26:28.000 And I understand everyone here is talking about, you know, how can the government do this?

01:26:32.000 How can the government do that?

01:26:34.000 The government has shown, has in the past gone to pretty pretty sizable lengths to stop terrorism.

01:26:42.000 We have a whole we had we had the whole war on terror, and there are all of the the levers of power that the federal government had to use during the war on terror, they still have.

01:26:58.000 Well, and and look what we're dealing with.

01:26:59.000 Well, I that's that's true, but they haven't they haven't they haven't used them against the left.

01:27:03.000 They ended up turning them towards the Republicans, to be honest with you.

01:27:07.000 But the point that I'm making is there are things that the government can do.

01:27:11.000 Nothing will ever be perfect.

01:27:12.000 I'm not saying that they can protect every single person completely and totally.

01:27:17.000 And Ian, you brought up the second amendment.

01:27:19.000 Look who you're talking to.

01:27:20.000 I mean, I'm constant I'm the guy that always carries, right?

01:27:24.000 I'm the guy that always has guns on him.

01:27:27.000 So it's not like I don't understand what you're saying, and it's not like I'm saying, oh, we should offload our individual protection to the government.

01:27:35.000 But this isn't about protect just protecting individuals.

01:27:39.000 This is about going after the organizations because Antifa, even though they are a they're not a specific organization, they are a loosely affiliated group of people, there are still ways to go after them.

01:27:54.000 And the government should be doing that.

01:27:56.000 And that activity, that operation by the government will put pressure on people that might say things or might take the matters into their own hand, they're gonna say, I don't know, it's not worth it for me if I to make these jokes.

01:28:12.000 And it's not again, it's not going to be perfect.

01:28:15.000 I'm not sure.

01:28:16.000 I'm not a fan of the Zap Branaghen method, and that is sending in wave after wave of your own men until the killbots reach their preset kill bot kill limit.

01:28:25.000 Right.

01:28:26.000 And then they just power down.

01:28:27.000 And and what I mean by that is the idea that the left has explicitly stated that they will kill us, and they are, and it's happening.

01:28:34.000 And uh we we are concerned that it will escalate. 0.86

01:28:37.000 The idea that we will just keep sending the most prominent into the fray in the exact same way is kind of a dumb idea, like hoping at some point leftists just get tired of of it and stop.

01:28:47.000 So now to be fair, leftist violence is the most pronounced.

01:28:52.000 The way I've often described it is the if you actually read and watch the news, leftist violence happens the most.

01:29:00.000 They lie, of course, through institutions and manipulation to claim it's the right, but that's not true.

01:29:04.000 However, violence aligned with twisted right ideologies tends to be what I would call more acute. 0.86

01:29:10.000 So you get a crazy guy who goes on like a racist shooting rampage or something.

01:29:14.000 Now, for the left, they've taken the spotlight with even the most violent of a uh of shootings in the past couple of years. 0.97

01:29:19.000 We've had now several transgender mass shooters, it's rather alarming. 1.00

01:29:23.000 And so, even what we would describe as the blunt uh already being on the left, but uh, I'm sorry, what we describe as the acute being right wing is now being dominated by the left.

01:29:31.000 And the blunt, which has always been left wing, is also dominated by the left wing.

01:29:34.000 So they they've clearly taken the cake.

01:29:36.000 Even Stephen Marsh, who's a liberal has admitted this in his article for the independent.

01:29:40.000 So the argument is what I'm saying.

01:29:43.000 We should not just be, hey, Charlie Kirk, his life was taken by a leftist because he was doing these things.

01:29:50.000 Let's send a bunch of more people to go do the exact same thing and just like send them into the battlefield to fight the killbots. 0.86

01:29:56.000 There is an argument, to be honest, that maybe if we were like, hey everybody, let's all go out and do the exact same thing out in the open where people are gonna try and shoot you, because if you die, then America snaps to attention because if you know, if another political assassination would be devastating, it would this country would fall apart overnight.

01:30:15.000 I think what we actually do is we assess the circumstances and adapt our strategies.

01:30:21.000 We don't stop, we double down, but we don't just say, Hey, I should continue my college event and go out and stand in the public in front of several hundred people with with that that an event that imposed that's impossible to secure.

01:30:34.000 That makes no sense.

01:30:34.000 Yeah, it's a multi-tiered solution.

01:30:36.000 It's not any one thing.

01:30:37.000 Their free speech is the long goal, of course, the constitution upholding that, and then in the acute in the in the immediate situation, you need to tamp down on terrorist organizations.

01:30:46.000 And using the federal government for that, I fully agree with you.

01:30:49.000 I have a question for you.

01:30:49.000 I also, though, I'm concerned about what the definition of terrorist is.

01:30:52.000 I have a I I do want to discuss that.

01:30:54.000 But real quick, I have a question for the audience.

01:30:56.000 And I have a question for you guys here.

01:30:58.000 I've only talked about this somewhat privately, but considering what's going on, I think it's fine to ask this question publicly, although I was thinking before I probably should, but I will.

01:31:07.000 What do you think would happen in the United States if another prominent right-aligned personality was assassinated in a similar fashion in the span of a couple a week or two?

01:31:15.000 Patrick Bid David said basically what you just said that that could be the end of the end of it.

01:31:20.000 You would get you would get tit for tat violence potentially.

01:31:24.000 But the thing about the United States, the way it's structured, like our cities are structured, is it doesn't facilitate a right wing mass mobilization just because people like conservatives live in the suburbs and rural areas, so they can't just like drive into downtown and park to riot.

01:31:38.000 So you wouldn't see any like rioting.

01:31:39.000 The left, on the other hand, can mobilize overnight, riot, et cetera, et cetera.

01:31:43.000 The question is So you would get tit for tat audits.

01:31:46.000 The truth of the matter is that maybe the Republicans would benefit uh next in in the next midterm election.

01:31:52.000 But I frankly believe that you think nothing would happen.

01:31:55.000 For the most part, people have very short memories, unfortunately.

01:31:57.000 Uh the attitudes in the country might be tense for for a bit, but writ large.

01:32:01.000 So hold on, let's rephrase.

01:32:03.000 Just to make sure I get I get what you're saying correctly.

01:32:05.000 If following one week after Charlie Kirk's assassination, another prominent high profile conservative is assassinated.

01:32:05.000 Yeah.

01:32:13.000 You think people would go, huh?

01:32:15.000 They wouldn't go, uh, the Donald Trump may attend their funeral.

01:32:18.000 Um, Pam Bondi would put out a strong statement. 0.98

01:32:20.000 I'm sure many congressmen, including some Democrat congressmen, would condemn it, but writ large, it would affect the electorate up until maybe the the midterms that uh that uh uh maybe coming up in uh a year or so, a little bit over a year and a half or what have you.

01:32:34.000 But we have short memories.

01:32:37.000 Uh and the the president the president literally got shot and was almost assassinated.

01:32:42.000 And if nothing happened there, no, I don't really see why it would go anywhere further or much crazier if it was some commentary.

01:32:50.000 Because he lived because he lived.

01:32:52.000 I honestly think that at the point that we're at right now, that might get conservatives to protest and demonstrate in the street.

01:33:01.000 Now, not I'm not talking about I'm not talking about actually doing anything.

01:33:05.000 I'm not talking about big riots, but I think that like you would see a lot more vigils because they're I mean, even with with Charlie there, candlelight vigils, you would see more conservatives going and doing things.

01:33:16.000 Again, not rioting.

01:33:17.000 This wouldn't be like, I'm not implying that it would be like is uh as if a you know the a prominent Democrat got killed, but I do think that you might see uh conservatives out doing more vigils, doing more of what doing more of what they did for Charlie.

01:33:32.000 I think that if within the span of a week or two, following the assassination of uh of Charlie Kirk, another prominent conservative voice personality was killed, you would get uh X there would be extreme anger and rage manifesting in isolated areas among the right, but the right doesn't have anything too protest in this regard, it's leftist extreme violence.

01:33:55.000 What you'd likely see is first a lot of public attendance to meetings, there'd be people like they you'd have meetings, like really, really low-tier stuff.

01:34:04.000 Something you you probably wouldn't even notice.

01:34:06.000 I believe that Donald Trump would issue a direct statement over the threat of far left terror expanding because of the shock to the system that was Charlie Kirk's death.

01:34:15.000 I think they said only four NFL teams didn't honor him.

01:34:19.000 Short memory.

01:34:20.000 Uh no, no, no, no, no.

01:34:21.000 Nearly every single football stadium had a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk.

01:34:24.000 The Yankees did.

01:34:25.000 In Vegas and the Marquees, they put up uh memorials for Charlie Kirk.

01:34:29.000 There were a moment of silence for him across the border, all of these mainstream institutions.

01:34:32.000 The New York Times put a memorial on their on their uh on their uh uh on their on their menu bar.

01:34:38.000 If within the span of a week another shock like that happened, you'd get the boot down by Trump, and I believe Democrat, the Democratic Party would would basically cease to exist.

01:34:49.000 You And I'm saying if it was explicitly like a Democrat ideologically aligned individual who did it, Trump would come out and say, this is crossed the line, we are entering into extreme, you know, territory, this country cannot handle this level of violence.

01:35:03.000 And I'm saying the same thing, meaning you get more celebrations on the from the left, you get more mockery, you get more lies.

01:35:10.000 I think this country would overnight, overnight it would be unrecognizable to you.

01:35:16.000 This is when Donald Trump invokes the insurrection act with impunity.

01:35:19.000 This is when federal law enforcement is dispatched, and there are no Democrats willing to step up against it because they know what the left did to incite it.

01:35:26.000 There will be some Democrats that would say things like, This is crossing a line and it shouldn't happen.

01:35:30.000 But for the most part, they'd be terrified.

01:35:32.000 They'd be saying, I don't know what to do because all of my constituents are terrified of the assassins, not of law enforcement, and they want the law enforcement.

01:35:41.000 So those Democrats shut up. 0.79

01:35:42.000 Donald Trump then goes in, ICE enforcement, you'd get pockets of leftist uh insurgency, they'd be f they're already doing it.

01:35:50.000 And you that what was it, two ICE uh guys got uh got seriously injured, one guy in Chicago got nearly run over and shot and killed the illegal immigrant happening in Florida.

01:35:58.000 That kind of stuff would expand.

01:35:59.000 I don't think what what I think is actually terrifying in this context is Did you guys know that two guys tried planting a bomb on a Fox News truck in Utah?

01:36:08.000 Did you guys know that an ice officer was trying to arrest an illegal who then sped off and was dragging him so he shot and killed the guy?

01:36:14.000 And I believe that happened again in Florida shortly after.

01:36:19.000 There are stories that are terrifying that are in the news that we're not actually talking about.

01:36:22.000 These are domestic issues, where we are seeing the left engage in serious violence and it's and it's swept, it's swept under.

01:36:31.000 So my fear is if we if we are we are dangerously close to the precipice.

01:36:36.000 The the Charlie Kirk assassination was several things.

01:36:40.000 He was a moderate.

01:36:41.000 That terrifies people.

01:36:42.000 He preached debate and free speech, and they killed him.

01:36:46.000 Horrifying.

01:36:47.000 He was young.

01:36:48.000 That really scares people.

01:36:50.000 He had a family and his family watched him die.

01:36:53.000 That terrifies people.

01:36:54.000 All of these are compound compounding effects.

01:36:57.000 But I I hate to say this and I hate to be crude, but I believe the most impactful issue relating to Charlie Kirk's death was that the gruesome way in which he died visibly to the public, which shocked regular people to their core to see not in a movie, but the actual merciless killing, which resulted in such a horrific injury that everyone watched.

01:37:26.000 Whether or not you knew who he was or did not, regular people cried when they saw that because it's a horrific graphic moment that terrifies people.

01:37:36.000 So everyone's on edge right now.

01:37:38.000 I do agree with you to a certain extent, a lot that people have a short memory because already we're starting to see more and more liberals come out with glee and lie about Charlie Kirk a week out.

01:37:48.000 But it's kind of like an overheating.

01:37:51.000 The pot has boiled over and is starting to simmer down.

01:37:56.000 We are dangerously close.

01:37:57.000 If something comparable happened, the pot's popping.

01:38:00.000 I struggle to see a coherent response from the current administration already to respond to the to respond to Charlie Kirk's assassination is why I'm so skeptical of if they were God forbid another attack on some prominent conservative, that they'd have a much better way of responding.

01:38:16.000 I don't foresee them again really cracking down on free speech laws, even though that's kind of the first thing that they went to.

01:38:22.000 I don't know if I need to recite this because we've heard this argument a million times.

01:38:25.000 If a di a Democrat administration were to get in, they'd abuse these hate speech laws against the Republicans. 0.95

01:38:31.000 And I'm not I'm gonna stop you there because we're well beyond that argument.

01:38:34.000 Meaning we've already watched Democrats arrest the front runner for their opposing party.

01:38:39.000 The argument that if Democrats win, our speech is threatened is ridiculous because I'm actually more concerned about who they're going to execute and arrest. 0.54

01:38:46.000 Yep.

01:38:47.000 All right, then anti-free speech laws are antithetical to our constitution is a good thing.

01:38:50.000 So let me make the point again.

01:38:52.000 Throwing a full bucket of water onto your kitchen floor is a bad idea, it'll cause water damage. 0.79

01:38:56.000 But when your house is on fire, it's exactly what you should do.

01:38:58.000 Sure, but Democrats argue that about the second amendment, and I disagree with them on that on the second amendment. 0.99

01:39:03.000 They'd say, you know, there's too much um I think it's fair to point out that some people are stupid and other people are not. 0.99

01:39:09.000 The point is, when they make arguments that hate speech is an existential threat, we know they're psychotic. 0.99

01:39:14.000 When we make the argument that assassinating Charlie Kirk and threatening death on conservatives for voting for Trump is an existential threat, that's a fact base because Charlie Kirk was killed.

01:39:23.000 So the the point is we we we we can't question people's speech.

01:39:28.000 Uh Democrats will do bad things to us.

01:39:30.000 You mean like kill people or try to put the president in prison, which they're still trying to do. 0.73

01:39:36.000 They're just stuck because he's in the presidency and they can't prosecute him.

01:39:39.000 What was the uh today?

01:39:40.000 What was the program that the uh that Cash Patel and I think Arctic, what is it, Arctic Tundra?

01:39:47.000 Arctic Fox.

01:39:48.000 Arctic Frost.

01:39:49.000 The government they use the they're using the government.

01:39:52.000 Let's let's let's do this.

01:39:53.000 I'm sorry to to cut into super chat time.

01:39:55.000 Here's a story before you do.

01:39:56.000 I'm actually hosting Inverted World tonight.

01:39:56.000 I gotta go.

01:39:58.000 Shane Cashman's gonna be out, so I'm gonna be over there.

01:40:00.000 It starts at 10 PM on Inverted World.

01:40:02.000 I believe YouTube's gonna send you over there.

01:40:04.000 I'll be there.

01:40:04.000 Check it out.

01:40:05.000 Thank you guys for having me tonight.

01:40:06.000 Excellent conversation, guys.

01:40:07.000 See you later, man.

01:40:08.000 Hi.

01:40:09.000 Here's a story from the New York Post.

01:40:11.000 FBI Arctic Frost probe targeted nearly 100 GOP groups, including Charlie Kirk's TP USA.

01:40:18.000 This, of course, was exposed by Senator Grassley in the hearing with Cash Patel earlier.

01:40:23.000 They say an FBI investigation launched in the wake of the 2020 election, scrutinized nearly 100 Republican GOP aligned groups, including Turning Point USA.

01:40:30.000 Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley published files related to the probe, condemned, um sorry, codenamed Arctic Frost during a panel hearing, saying the records revealed Arctic Frost was much was much broader than just an electoral matter, and that the investigation expanded to Republican organizations.

01:40:45.000 Some examples of the groups that Ray that Ray's FBI sought to place under political investigation included the Republican National Committee, Republican Attorneys General Association, and Trump political groups, Grassley went on.

01:40:58.000 Let me just make it clear.

01:40:59.000 The argument that, oh no, we can't because Democrats would later, Democrats already did.

01:41:05.000 And we are let me let me say this.

01:41:09.000 I would I think the left wants a civil war in this country because it is the only way they can destroy the Constitution, which basically protects us.

01:41:19.000 It's tattered to shreds.

01:41:21.000 It isn't the only thing that protects us, but that written document makes it very difficult for the left to make dramatic revolutionary change.

01:41:28.000 Were a civil war to happen, they can rewrite whatever they want.

01:41:32.000 So they are intentionally creating circumstances by which this conflict arises.

01:41:37.000 Democrats are more than happy to oblige.

01:41:40.000 They have tried they they they arrested Trump several times.

01:41:42.000 They have tried to put him in prison.

01:41:44.000 They are still trying to put him in prison, but it's frozen because Trump is currently president.

01:41:49.000 A left-aligned individual said that Charlie was too hateful to be negotiated with.

01:41:53.000 And so this assassin, allegedly, you know, innocent till proven guilty, but it looks like the evidence they've released so far is pretty uh damning.

01:42:01.000 This left line individual shot and murdered Charlie Kirk.

01:42:04.000 We are in an untenable circumstance.

01:42:07.000 They are issuing death threats and veiled threats, publishing addresses, trying to get prominent individuals killed.

01:42:14.000 What can we do?

01:42:15.000 We can say, hold on, we are not going to go after them because they've used loopholes in how they speak so that we can't prosecute them.

01:42:24.000 They've used loopholes in how they commit acts of physical violence and vandalism so we can't prosecute them.

01:42:28.000 So we'll sit back and let them do it.

01:42:30.000 And what will you get?

01:42:30.000 The far left will riot, smash, burn, destroy things, and we'll sit back and say, but you can't prosecute because we can't figure out who individually they are.

01:42:38.000 And they'll keep doing it.

01:42:40.000 And if you try to prosecute them under conspiracy, we saw what happened in DC, they'll sue you and they'll win.

01:42:44.000 That's when we follow the liberal rules, the classical liberal rules, which we believe in, we want to.

01:42:50.000 But unfortunately, for as the founding fathers stated, these rules only work for a moral and uh and what did they say, moral and religious?

01:42:58.000 Religious virtues.

01:43:00.000 Virtuous, was that it was?

01:43:01.000 It's religious and moral people to John Adams.

01:43:03.000 Yes, religious and moral people.

01:43:04.000 That means we create rules and we say, we agree we're trying to live together and we'll abide by these rules.

01:43:11.000 Meanwhile, homies got aces up his sleeve. 0.70

01:43:13.000 And he's like, You got it, buddy.

01:43:14.000 You're gonna keep playing with them?

01:43:16.000 It's a rock in a hard place.

01:43:17.000 You're gonna flip the table?

01:43:18.000 Now there's no game for anybody.

01:43:20.000 This is the challenge.

01:43:21.000 The FBI was going after Charlie Kirk's organization, TP USA.

01:43:25.000 They targeted him.

01:43:27.000 They I don't know where we go from here.

01:43:30.000 I don't, I don't, I have no, I this is insane.

01:43:32.000 Mm-hmm.

01:43:37.000 you've got Letitia James being prosecuted for uh looked at uh I believe she's got criminal charges for what mortgage fraud they actually launched the charges. 1.00

01:43:44.000 Adam Schiff now, I believe is shifts similarly.

01:43:47.000 So this game is expanding.

01:43:50.000 Is there any reason to believe it stops?

01:43:53.000 Honest question.

01:43:54.000 I'm people want people tell me I'm fearmongering for asking this question.

01:43:58.000 I am up I am looking this, looking at this like a simple math problem.

01:44:05.000 Two plus two equals what?

01:44:07.000 You're not going to change the answer.

01:44:09.000 So if they try to arrest Donald Trump, it is a entirely predictable that Donald Trump's DOJ and others along with Trump will then go after these individuals in any way they can.

01:44:18.000 Mortgage fraud, they found a way.

01:44:21.000 They killed Charlie Kirk.

01:44:23.000 What happens next?

01:44:24.000 Trump says, Pam Bondi says, we're gonna go after them.

01:44:28.000 Someone asked Trump, but I think those protesters still have their free speeches, but I'm not so sure.

01:44:32.000 It's predictable.

01:44:35.000 Two two hyperpolarized sides, neither will back down because both sides want to maintain their moral worldview.

01:44:42.000 And I'll keep it real simple.

01:44:44.000 In what reality will a conservative agree to live in a country that legalizes child sex changes?

01:44:50.000 They're gonna say no to that.

01:44:52.000 And I know this is just one granular political issue, but it's an example.

01:44:55.000 There are issues by which conservatives say, I will not abide.

01:44:59.000 And the liberals look at them back and say, neither will I. Then what?

01:45:04.000 That's why some people have been advocating for years now national divorce, which wouldn't solve the problem because you know, if Arizona got split from the rest of the country, or look, Arizona needs water from other places.

01:45:16.000 The Great Lakes have a lot of it.

01:45:18.000 There's food shipped all over this country.

01:45:20.000 There are trade routes that are entwined, and if resources were cut off, including weapons and military, then you are going to get fighting.

01:45:27.000 Imagine what would happen if the Colorado River got damned upstream from LA.

01:45:32.000 Because they said, we have no negotiating, no treaties with you.

01:45:35.000 Imagine if these states went to California and said, because there's no longer a federal government overseeing this, we're willing to give you water, but your 13 million people in LA are gonna have to tithe to us.

01:45:47.000 War.

01:45:50.000 I don't I I I so I I I hope and I I beg that we are not going to escalate.

01:45:55.000 And I say it every time, maybe this is the time people finally wake up.

01:45:57.000 But take a look at what Media Sand did.

01:46:00.000 This guy published a fake a list of fake quotes from Charlie Kirk.

01:46:04.000 They are out of context, spliced, so that it makes Charlie's sound really, really bad.

01:46:10.000 Because he wants to make sure liberals feel okay with the fact that one of them murdered him.

01:46:10.000 Why?

01:46:16.000 So they can say, yes, this assassinations are bad, but look how awful this guy was.

01:46:20.000 And then liberals go, yeah, assassinations are bad, but he was the devil, right?

01:46:26.000 That's where we're at.

01:46:27.000 What happens next?

01:46:29.000 Political violence has become um an approved and acceptable a part of our political process, such that you're seeing people like Medi Hassan after the fact try to like tacitly say that it was okay, not explicitly say it, but like saying, Oh, look at all these terrible quotes he had, or look what he said about Gaza, or look at um he he'd probably argue that um Charlie Kirk supported the genocide, uh alleged genocide in Gaza, and therefore it's justified to in in killing him or or whatnot.

01:46:56.000 But as we're seeing um the more this become more acceptable, I think there's no reason to see um to predict less political violence in our political process.

01:47:05.000 I think it would be naive to think otherwise.

01:47:07.000 I think people are continuing to dehumanize the other political side.

01:47:11.000 People on the left think conservatives simply aren't human.

01:47:14.000 They think that Zionists simply aren't human.

01:47:17.000 We've been seeing violence um towards them.

01:47:19.000 And and I mean we've also been seeing it in the reverse.

01:47:21.000 Some people on the right also dehumanize people on the left, um, such to the degree that I wouldn't be surprised if we saw political violence um against them in the future as well.

01:47:29.000 It's also unfortunate that it seems that these this violence is effective in in their goal.

01:47:35.000 Um they managed to take out a major figure on the right that will be irreplaceable.

01:47:40.000 So I mean, that's why that's why these condemnations from the left are just useless because they're saying, okay, it's wrong that Kirk died, but then they add so many qualifiers onto it, so they can so they can signal to their side that well, I still think I'm still dehumanizing, don't worry.

01:47:55.000 I'm still saying he's a fascist Nazi, but I have to put this in here for PR reasons that it's wrong that he was killed.

01:48:01.000 So it's like even in their condemnations, it's still not turning the temperature down whatsoever.

01:48:06.000 And this is only coming from the left.

01:48:08.000 I mean, if if this happened to a a left wing person, the entire right would say this is wrong, full stop.

01:48:13.000 Oh, here's one for you.

01:48:14.000 Let's get as personal as I can.

01:48:16.000 In December of last year, I was informed by my legal team that the DOJ had basically had effectively dropped their investigation of the Russian individuals purportedly secretly funding tenant.

01:48:25.000 It was gone.

01:48:26.000 As almost quick as quickly as it emerged, they said nope.

01:48:29.000 And I was telling them, no, no, no, no, no.

01:48:31.000 I want all this stuff released.

01:48:32.000 They have besmirched my good name.

01:48:34.000 We had nothing to do with anything untoward.

01:48:37.000 And what are you going to do?

01:48:38.000 You can't make the DOJ.

01:48:40.000 Lauren Chen came out recently and issued a statement that it was formally dropped in all capacity in April.

01:48:46.000 To this day, Democrats still lie and say it's true.

01:48:49.000 So let me just make sure this is very clear to everybody.

01:48:51.000 Not only was it formally dropped, and their argument is, yeah, well, Trump's DOJ did it.

01:48:56.000 They stopped investigating and basically called it off in December.

01:49:00.000 And I reported, I stated that at the time, and they ignore it.

01:49:04.000 I think it's fair to fair to state that the intention the whole time in targeting Tenet was to it was an October surprise.

01:49:15.000 It was intended to smear me, Benny, Dave, and others.

01:49:15.000 Yeah.

01:49:18.000 What take a look at what Dave's content was.

01:49:20.000 It was America's Funniest Home Videos.

01:49:22.000 I'm not kidding.

01:49:23.000 Yeah.

01:49:23.000 It got limited traction, no disrespect, but he was what he was making videos where he was watching funny videos online and reacting to them.

01:49:29.000 And they claimed that that was Russian propaganda.

01:49:32.000 What is the culture war show?

01:49:33.000 We did we we we had a discussion recently on religion and uh AI AI.

01:49:38.000 We're doing one on exorcisms and demons, totally unrelated to politics for the most part.

01:49:43.000 It was all lies.

01:49:44.000 They came out and made some wild claims.

01:49:46.000 The DOJ did this, issued a press release.

01:49:49.000 Now I just heard recently that Cash Patel issuing these statements was unprecedented regarding these uh assassination.

01:49:56.000 There was a uh an article written by uh some liberal Democrat guy saying that it is un a former former FBI said it's unheard of for the head of the FBI to come out and make statements like this.

01:50:06.000 Mayor Garland did.

01:50:08.000 He gave a press conference where he talked about this.

01:50:11.000 How weird.

01:50:12.000 How often does he do that?

01:50:13.000 How often does he issue these press conferences?

01:50:15.000 He doesn't, never did.

01:50:16.000 And then, right after the election, they told my legal team there was no investigation, the case was basically over.

01:50:23.000 What was the point of it in the first place?

01:50:25.000 Two people no one ever heard of that we can't confirm exist in a faraway country did something we can't prove.

01:50:30.000 They never published any evidence, but the Democrats act like it's true.

01:50:34.000 I think it's political.

01:50:35.000 I think what the FBI is doing political.

01:50:37.000 I think it's fascinating when I say it is civil strife, political civil war, cold civil war, or whatever, people are like laughable.

01:50:44.000 And then you look at what they're doing.

01:50:46.000 The FBI went after turning point.

01:50:49.000 Charlie Kirk is dead now.

01:50:52.000 Yeah.

01:50:53.000 I think I think it's it's broader than people realize.

01:50:55.000 And I think you people should have realized the moment they put Trump in cuffs, I mean it figuratively, they gave him when the moment they took his mug shot.

01:51:04.000 Trump's at the top.

01:51:05.000 If they're gonna go for the king, imagine what they're gonna do for every they're gonna try to do it to everybody else.

01:51:09.000 Yep.

01:51:10.000 He wasn't kidding when he said they're coming after you, I'm just in the way.

01:51:12.000 100% you ever said.

01:51:14.000 Well, I mean, look, the the whatever Arctic Frost or whatever, that proves it.

01:51:19.000 You know, the fact that the FBI was investigating parents for going to PTA meetings and saying that they didn't like the curriculum.

01:51:19.000 Yeah.

01:51:26.000 That proves it.

01:51:27.000 And all this isn't this isn't some kind of theory or or hypothetical.

01:51:33.000 Like the the federal government has been used against conservatives ever since 2012 with the IRS scandal with Lois Lunar Lerner.

01:51:40.000 Yeah.

01:51:41.000 We we we do need to go to chats.

01:51:43.000 So uh I'm we're gonna jump to chats.

01:51:44.000 I know we went way long on this one, but I apologize.

01:51:47.000 It's just this one's got me going.

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01:53:21.000 Let's try and grab as many of your chats and rants as we can.

01:53:24.000 I apologize, apologize for going long today, but you see me go off on those rants.

01:53:29.000 Kremit says, evidence the Bible is true. 0.98

01:53:31.000 In Genesis chapter 14, God made male and female, and the enemy spurred division and murder.

01:53:36.000 Today, evil is trying to destroy male and female and encourages murder.

01:53:39.000 Same M.O. Same enemy.

01:53:42.000 You know, I'll tell you this.

01:53:44.000 There are a lot of things.

01:53:45.000 There are a lot of things that I uh that I'm seeing.

01:53:48.000 That's all I don't know.

01:53:49.000 Demons, man.

01:53:50.000 I made that video. 0.95

01:53:51.000 It's time to bring back exorcisms.

01:53:53.000 I think demons are real.

01:53:55.000 You should you guys should check it out on the Tim Pool channel on Rumble and uh YouTube.

01:53:59.000 Shane Childer says the ABC news clip just goes to show that MSM will stop at nothing to control the narrative.

01:54:04.000 It's sickening.

01:54:04.000 Hi, Adam.

01:54:05.000 Can't wait to get the book and read it from a lectern like a patriotic boss.

01:54:08.000 Uh Adam wasn't actually set to come today.

01:54:11.000 It was next month.

01:54:12.000 I thought something like that would happen.

01:54:13.000 We've had something like that happened before, but we caught it in time.

01:54:17.000 Because if someone says something like so, basically what happened was, and I'm and I I'm not on the emails, but I guess he emailed about October 16th.

01:54:25.000 Then our team responded, and then like two emails later, he like they say like the 16th works, and they think the 16th is now referring the seventh September because they missed October and he thinks it's October, and then we screw up.

01:54:37.000 All right.

01:54:38.000 ShaanH Wilder says, dang, I'll have to buy Tate's book instead.

01:54:41.000 Standing tall, the Tate Brown story.

01:54:44.000 I don't know if I'm literate enough to write a book, but I'll try.

01:54:44.000 Indeed.

01:54:47.000 Deplorable sense is don't be naive.

01:54:49.000 Timcast was also spied on during Arctic Frost. 0.95

01:54:51.000 I bet, which is probably how they did all that tenant garbage. 0.80

01:54:57.000 Oh man, you think they have stuff on they could access the the before show video too?

01:55:02.000 Oh you poking around.

01:55:04.000 Oh oh oh no, they might publish literally me speaking without a script exactly how I feel to everybody.

01:55:09.000 I record five hours a day.

01:55:11.000 I literally say like there's nothing left for me to say outside of everything I already say.

01:55:15.000 Other than like, you know, I really don't like but you know, I'm like, when the cameras are off, I'm like that Alex Stein.

01:55:21.000 Ooh, I'm kidding.

01:55:22.000 Taking our guests.

01:55:24.000 I was on the phone with Alex earlier before the show.

01:55:26.000 Taking our guests.

01:55:28.000 Bueno Malio says, Phil, no one expected a political commentator to be assassinated in public either.

01:55:33.000 I think Trump's replay to the question was very concerning.

01:55:36.000 Yeah, that's just big for me.

01:55:38.000 I think it's not like when you mentioned Trump, like Trump's a politician.

01:55:41.000 He's someone that people view as no longer as like the social media guy or like a guy that was on TV, like they view him.

01:55:46.000 It's like this is like a normal person who is engaged in politics outside of being in politics.

01:55:50.000 I think that's what changes for me.

01:55:52.000 That's what changes the whole thing for everybody.

01:55:53.000 Yeah.

01:55:53.000 That's different.

01:55:54.000 Well, it's a lot, it's a lot of compounding factors.

01:55:56.000 Definitely.

01:55:56.000 His wife and children watched.

01:55:58.000 Totally.

01:55:58.000 Yeah.

01:55:59.000 I I do think for most people, because I I've I've asked a lot of people about it.

01:56:03.000 And I think what made them cry was the gruesome nature of his killing.

01:56:10.000 Cerna said we're like in PTSD still.

01:56:13.000 Because everyone saw the video, and you're not supposed to see those things as a human.

01:56:17.000 Yeah, man.

01:56:18.000 I've told the story numerous times about a car accident I saw, and the dude's legs were mutilated, and I have a feeling that I've never been given a word for.

01:56:26.000 And I'm sure like combat vets and people who have, you know, EMTs and first responders and all that and cops know that feeling, but it's it's so rare in our society.

01:56:26.000 Literally.

01:56:36.000 I don't know there's a word for it.

01:56:37.000 Horror.

01:56:38.000 Not stop that's that's not the word.

01:56:38.000 Yeah.

01:56:40.000 Not enough.

01:56:40.000 Yeah.

01:56:41.000 I saw like I saw a dead child in Africa, and second time I've ever felt that feeling was uh nice old Charlie.

01:56:46.000 So it's like I don't even know how to begin to describe it.

01:56:49.000 It's uh it's like feeling I I would describe it as feeling fear, anger, and sadness, balled up, hyper concentrated in your chest at the exact same time.

01:56:58.000 Yeah.

01:56:58.000 Yep.

01:56:59.000 And sadness.

01:57:00.000 Precisely.

01:57:01.000 I know it's like we don't got a word for it.

01:57:03.000 The Germans probably do. 0.94

01:57:04.000 They have wild words.

01:57:07.000 Seven German words.

01:57:10.000 I'm at uh Armadeus says the messages released are only the ones that are relevant to establishing probable cause.

01:57:15.000 The county attorney is not going to release two full days of messages when most are irrelevant to the case.

01:57:19.000 Agreed.

01:57:20.000 That's why transposition seems to make uh most sense.

01:57:23.000 That and the ellipse as well.

01:57:25.000 Because I'm sure there was stuff in there like, hey, take my brido out of the freezer if you can.

01:57:28.000 I'm going to put it in the fridge for me.

01:57:29.000 You're like, nobody needs to hear that.

01:57:32.000 Nobody cares.

01:57:35.000 All right.

01:57:36.000 Let's see what we got.

01:57:37.000 We'll grab some more chats.

01:57:38.000 We got a few minutes.

01:57:40.000 I see people are commenting here.

01:57:41.000 What is this one?

01:57:44.000 Kilogram Gaming says one thing I've realized is when the next 10 to 15 years, the same people who think the political violence is okay, will be able to run for the presidency.

01:57:51.000 Our youth are watching the video in schools, and some teachers are encouraging it.

01:57:54.000 I wish I had answers or ideas to help.

01:57:56.000 It's sad.

01:57:56.000 I don't.

01:57:58.000 This is the idea that I've tried to convey quite a bit.

01:58:00.000 In 2018, um, I was in a group chat with a lot of DC politics talking about this stuff, and they said I was crazy because the U.S. government would never allow a civil war.

01:58:10.000 And I said, You don't understand the issues that we're seeing be will become the highest levels of government.

01:58:16.000 And that's what's happening.

01:58:18.000 These 20-year-old, like it's seven years ago.

01:58:22.000 When I'm in my late 20s in this gamer gaze twelve, 12 years ago, I'm 27, and like gamergate is starting or whatever.

01:58:28.000 I'm in my 20s.

01:58:29.000 I'm not running for office.

01:58:30.000 I'm not involved deeply entrenched in the stuff.

01:58:32.000 I'm on the ground filming stuff in various countries doing whatever.

01:58:35.000 The people who are involved in that culture war become hyperpolarized, but they're not in positions of power.

01:58:42.000 Fifteen years later, AOC is in Congress.

01:58:44.000 Not even 15, 10 years later.

01:58:46.000 And now you have one of these partisans in government.

01:58:50.000 And there's rumors she'll run for the Senate. 0.88

01:58:52.000 There's rumors she might run for president. 0.81

01:58:55.000 And you have many of these prominent liberals who 10 15 years 15 years ago were just goofy liberals arguing on the internet.

01:59:04.000 One of them is going to become president.

01:59:07.000 And they believe and it's going to be one of those people who are like, imagine what would happen if like Nick Fuentes was president, right?

01:59:16.000 And I'm not saying I'm I'm just saying his position with the authority of government.

01:59:21.000 There are a lot of a lot of things that he doesn't want that he would advocate for removal of, and they're they're more uh they're further right than the average person in this country.

01:59:30.000 The left similarly.

01:59:32.000 Imagine if AOC was president.

01:59:36.000 She's gonna advocate for things that middle regular people don't want. 0.95

01:59:39.000 The hyperpolarization is apparent.

01:59:41.000 And sooner or later, one of these people is gonna be president.

01:59:44.000 Here's a question for you guys.

01:59:46.000 Here's a question for Elad.

01:59:49.000 The election is AOC versus Fuentes, who you vote for.

01:59:52.000 Now that we don't have Charlie Kirk.

01:59:52.000 Oh, you vee.

01:59:55.000 They're both anti-Israel.

01:59:56.000 Now that we don't have Charlie Kirk to beat out um Fuentes in the 2048 Republican uh primary.

02:00:03.000 If it's between Fuentes and AOC.

02:00:07.000 How old is Nick?

02:00:09.000 I think he's late 20s.

02:00:11.000 I mean 20s, something like that.

02:00:12.000 Yeah, yeah, he's still got a decade before he can run.

02:00:15.000 Well, let's just say it's you know 10, 10, 15 years or whatever, and Nick Fuentes, what do you what do you guys think?

02:00:20.000 Who are you voting for?

02:00:22.000 Can I go back to my like abstaining as a journalist response?

02:00:25.000 Like as a journalist, like I like to not participate.

02:00:28.000 I believe I'll vote for a third party candidate.

02:00:30.000 Go ahead.

02:00:31.000 Waste your vote.

02:00:33.000 What are we getting as the libertarian candidate?

02:00:35.000 Dave Smith.

02:00:36.000 Oh, it's just as bad.

02:00:38.000 I mean, there is something to be said.

02:00:40.000 Anti-Israel version of every party.

02:00:41.000 There is something to be said, is like with the composition of Zoomers, you're gonna get, if not those names by proxy, you will get those two ideological.

02:00:49.000 I don't like never get a libertarian that's not.

02:00:52.000 Oh no, no, I'm not gonna get a Dave Smith.

02:00:56.000 No, no, but I'm saying Fuentes AOC.

02:00:59.000 I mean Griper or leftist.

02:01:01.000 Even if it's not, and even as a Groper, it's gonna be in that neighborhood for sure. 1.00

02:01:05.000 I mean, the look at if you look at Instagram reels.

02:01:08.000 The gen oh I know, it's hilarious.

02:01:10.000 It's like Gen Z is just spam blasting Fuentes. 0.99

02:01:10.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:01:13.000 Yeah.

02:01:14.000 Yeah.

02:01:14.000 So I'm like, even if it's not like a you know Catholic, you know, trad cath or whatever, it's gonna be like on that degree of right wing.

02:01:20.000 It's funny, there was one of these reels, and it was me talking about a Fuentes reel.

02:01:25.000 And it and it was like the funniest framing ever.

02:01:27.000 It was like Tim Poole, who hates in all caps, Nick, and refuses to debate him, even admits that Fuentes videos are going viral.

02:01:35.000 Take a look at this clip or whatever, and I was like, I don't hate the guy.

02:01:38.000 What?

02:01:39.000 I don't refuse to debate.

02:01:40.000 Like what it's just so weird how they frame these things.

02:01:43.000 Wait, so same question back to you, A or Seer Nick Fuentes, who are you picking?

02:01:46.000 Nick.

02:01:47.000 Yeah, no, I guess Nick has to run.

02:01:50.000 It's not even a hard question, but but I'll explain because I'm just hoping the left grabs that and uh and they say, Tim would vote for Yeah, because AOC is psychotic. 1.00

02:01:57.000 She's a liar, she's a grifter. 1.00

02:01:59.000 And uh I never said either was good, but like an AOC presidency. 1.00

02:02:04.000 Yeah, no, not interested.

02:02:06.000 You say goodbye to property rights.

02:02:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:02:09.000 Uh uh an overt commie.

02:02:11.000 Say goodbye to property rights, and as soon as you have if you don't have property rights, you don't have an economy.

02:02:16.000 Your economy falls apart, people don't invest.

02:02:20.000 Not to mention, I think it's fair to say that while uh Nick has said things that are quite quite offensive and controversial.

02:02:26.000 Uh they've lied about the guy quite a bit too.

02:02:30.000 Yeah.

02:02:30.000 Uh and so m my view largely is neither would be my first, fifth, or even tenth choice.

02:02:36.000 But that's why I asked the question because it's funny to ask.

02:02:38.000 If he wasn't so conspiratorial about Israel, like Israel's got a lot of influence and stuff, but if it wasn't like everything's the Jews, you'd be like, I could be like, well, you know, he's got he's got good points on some stuff. 0.85

02:02:48.000 But like no, if we gotta we gotta go to we gotta go to the uncensored portion of the show where we'll continue this conversation, which should get interesting.

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02:03:03.000 I put up a video today uh commenting on the idea that the assassination of Kirk will lead to a civil war, which I argued I don't think we are in one, but uh Moon on YouTube, that's the the channel name, made a really great mini doc breaking down where we currently are as a surface level.

02:03:18.000 So uh I also have a video that's popping off.

02:03:20.000 It's called Hyped Now on YouTube.

02:03:21.000 You do put a hype tag on it.

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02:03:28.000 Uh Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in a little bit.

02:03:32.000 Uh you want to shout anything out, Tate?

02:03:34.000 Yeah.

02:03:35.000 I've now completed the gauntlet.

02:03:36.000 I've sat in every chair at this table for a completed the gauntlet.

02:03:40.000 Uh yeah, you can find me on X and Instagram.

02:03:42.000 I've never done that.

02:03:43.000 There we go.

02:03:44.000 Uh yeah, X and Instagram, RealTate Brown.

02:03:46.000 Follow me there.

02:03:47.000 Yeah.

02:03:47.000 Never surrender.

02:03:48.000 Speed running every position in the company just a few months into your.

02:03:51.000 I'm in my marker Rubio arc.

02:03:53.000 That's good fun.

02:03:54.000 Um, a lot of Iliyahoo on all platforms, White House correspondent here at Timcast.

02:03:58.000 Thanks for tuning in, everybody.

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02:04:15.000 We're switching over.

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02:04:17.000 Thank you.

02:04:47.000 Thank you.

02:05:15.000 Joining us to kick off this uncensored portion of the show is a special caller.

02:05:21.000 We're just jumping right into it.

02:05:23.000 Uh uh excuse me, sir.

02:05:25.000 Special guest.

02:05:27.000 You're muted.

02:05:30.000 Oh, hi.

02:05:31.000 Sorry.

02:05:32.000 First time caller, uh long time listener.

02:05:35.000 So uh it's it's the lectern guy, and we did get him on the show.

02:05:39.000 He's calling in, and uh we we were we were we were really worried about you, bro.

02:05:45.000 We were like legit, everyone here was like not kidding.

02:05:49.000 They were seriously concerned because on our schedule it says you're on the show, and then I asked my my bookers, I was like, you're like, he's on the show and they're like, Yeah, I got it right here, and I was like, okay.

02:05:59.000 And then everyone's like, I'm calling him he won't answer.

02:06:01.000 And we were like, oh God, it's it rained.

02:06:03.000 Could you think he maybe like slipped and crashed or something?

02:06:06.000 And then uh and then Ian was watching Alex Stein's show when you were sitting on the couch and we were like, wait, what?

02:06:13.000 Well, I got a hankering for some barbecue, so I flew out to Texas instead.

02:06:17.000 So uh but you're coming back next month, huh?

02:06:20.000 Uh that is correct.

02:06:21.000 Yeah, the uh the tickets are booked.

02:06:22.000 I will be there for a couple of days.

02:06:24.000 Looking forward to seeing you guys.

02:06:25.000 So tell me what's going on.

02:06:26.000 You got a book out right now, and uh, we're just talking about a little bit about everything.

02:06:29.000 So what's going on?

02:06:31.000 Uh well, um, I got a book out.

02:06:33.000 You're correct.

02:06:33.000 It's called Taking a Stance.

02:06:35.000 I was not allowed to sell this book for uh five years because of my federal plea deal, but because I am pardoned, I'm allowed to release the book.

02:06:42.000 So it's officially for sale on unlicensed furnace reverses.com.

02:06:47.000 What's it about?

02:06:49.000 It's about me.

02:06:50.000 Uh my January 6th experience.

02:06:51.000 It's um it's not the things I talk about on podcasts.

02:06:54.000 It's more of my personal story, what my family went through.

02:06:56.000 Uh, you know, the kind of the quiet moments that we had together talking about what our life would look like, uh moving forward and going through it.

02:07:04.000 Right on.

02:07:05.000 And uh so let me I just want to make sure I clarify they had restricted you from profiting in any way.

02:07:12.000 And that's all lifted now.

02:07:14.000 Is that because of the time or the pardon, or was it?

02:07:17.000 Uh it's because of the pardon.

02:07:18.000 The fifth year would have been uh next year in November, but because of the pardon, I'm allowed to actually build a website and sell some merchandise.

02:07:25.000 And with the profits and merchandise, we're giving away quite a bit of it to uh to my charity, help take a stand.

02:07:31.000 So um you're an insurrectionist, right?

02:07:33.000 Tell tell us what you think about the current civil war.

02:07:37.000 Well, I think the civil war has been a long time coming.

02:07:39.000 And I think one side has definitely been waging uh the war a lot longer than our side has been willing to uh to respond.

02:07:46.000 And I mean, uh honestly, Charlie was the best of us, and for them to attack just a kind man who wanted to have a conversation, it it seems like they were getting the response from us they wanted, so they chose Charlie.

02:08:00.000 So, what we'll do is now that you're you're a hybrid guest on the show through our collins, we usually like to do a little bit of talk on a news article when we jump into the uncensored.

02:08:08.000 So I want to grab this real quick and uh you can join in and comment on it as well.

02:08:11.000 I don't know if you saw this.

02:08:12.000 Jimmy Kimmel suggests Charlie Kirk Assassin was one of the MAGA gang, despite reports of leftist leanings.

02:08:19.000 We saw this poll earlier from you gov that Democrats think the shooter is a Republican.

02:08:24.000 And so the question I've had, like when we're looking at Jimmy Kimmel, just basically a lie, because they do.

02:08:30.000 Is there any is there any other path forward?

02:08:33.000 I mean, like, you know, we've all kind of kind of given our opinion on this one.

02:08:37.000 I think everybody kind of gets it, but I'm curious if you think there is a way to find an off-ramp so that this country stops killing each other and doesn't escalate.

02:08:47.000 I do, but I don't think it's uh I I think we're very far away from the off-ramp, but I believe that we are in a generational battle that this is not gonna be resolved with with us, but we can definitely work towards resolution.

02:09:00.000 It's gonna be us raising our children and telling them the truth.

02:09:03.000 It's going to be us going to our workplaces and not being afraid to speak out.

02:09:07.000 And that's gonna take a long time because the leftists, the Marxist ideology has been in place for the past 60, 70 years.

02:09:14.000 They've taken entire generations to brainwash them.

02:09:16.000 It's gonna take a long time to undo that.

02:09:18.000 And that was Charlie's mission.

02:09:20.000 That was his work.

02:09:20.000 And if we want to honor him, that's the way forward is to continue that process of recapturing the youth so we can recapture our country.

02:09:27.000 And then they killed him.

02:09:29.000 Yeah.

02:09:33.000 He was a good man, but look, we we have to make the hard decisions.

02:09:38.000 The cost of this is our lives.

02:09:40.000 I mean, that's what they've told us.

02:09:42.000 If we want to continue to speak, the cost is our lives.

02:09:44.000 And you know, I had a conversation with my wife and my five sons, and I told them, look, we we have a responsibility to do this.

02:09:52.000 It is uh absolutely our constitutional right to speak, but we don't have a responsibility to speak.

02:09:58.000 And if we're quiet after this event, we've already given up, we've already lost.

02:10:03.000 I think um there's a decent probability.

02:10:06.000 Let me start by saying this.

02:10:08.000 Making a prediction a year out is very difficult because there's too many variables in variables in between, and every every variable exponentially increases the probabilities.

02:10:15.000 But I would say there's a decent probability that sometime in about one year, probably just about one year, another prominent conservative will be assassinated.

02:10:24.000 Just before the mid-service.

02:10:25.000 I I I I actually agree with you.

02:10:29.000 I think when they say that Charlie was a far right winger, when the left is saying this, when they say that he was uh a racist, a xenophobe, you know, the whole list of things they call us.

02:10:43.000 when they call him a Nazi when they call him a racist.

02:10:47.000 What they mean to say is that is our line.

02:10:50.000 Even if you are a moderate, we are against you. 1.00

02:10:52.000 We will kill you for speaking. 0.88

02:10:53.000 So I absolutely agree with you that that is that will happen in the next year. 0.98

02:10:58.000 I don't think it's gonna be a year.

02:10:59.000 I I think it'll be a couple of months.

02:11:01.000 I I think it's possible in a couple of months, but I say a year, regardless of what happens the next couple of months.

02:11:05.000 And the reason why is I think this killing.

02:11:09.000 Yeah, we've already seen a bunch of videos from people saying they're quitting the Democratic Party.

02:11:13.000 This is a wake-up call.

02:11:14.000 So there is that.

02:11:15.000 I think the polls are going to start favoring Republicans very heavily, creating desperation among Democrats.

02:11:21.000 Progressives seeing a coming massive victory for the Republican side will become increasingly more desperate.

02:11:28.000 Desperation backed into a corner.

02:11:30.000 You're gonna see some extreme action.

02:11:32.000 They're basically going to be given the choice, be politically destroyed, or fight back with physical violence.

02:11:39.000 I think that what the what there's a strong probability, and this I could be wrong, that we will have a probably one more assassination around this time next year.

02:11:49.000 And I'm I I think I'm probably wrong on this.

02:11:52.000 I think the probability may be six percent.

02:11:53.000 I'm just saying it's so broad, it's hard to know exactly.

02:11:56.000 But there's a there's a decent probability, six percent, maybe seven, that in desperation they'll kill someone saying, Look, sh killing Charlie Kirk was damaging a TP USA, and they'll say that that's the route we're gonna go because we're losing politically.

02:12:10.000 That'll result in a massive entrenchment of the Republican Party in Congress, which will result in another victory, exp you know, another victory in 2028.

02:12:20.000 You'll end up with a uh Trump administration on the back end that is engaging in very serious law enforcement against extremist leftists, and it's possible that we don't see full-scale civil war, but we see leftist insurgency, which gets stamped out for uh, you know, probably a decade.

02:12:36.000 But we may have to live under fear that the leftists will shoot and kill you for some time.

02:12:40.000 But I would just say right now, slim probability, too many variables at play, but I think it's probable that in desperation they kill another conservative within the year. 0.89

02:12:49.000 In a year.

02:12:52.000 I think so as well, man.

02:12:53.000 And I I really hate to agree with you on that, but I I think you're absolutely right.

02:12:58.000 They um they want blood.

02:13:00.000 I mean, they they mean what they say, and I think it's time that we start believing them.

02:13:03.000 I don't know.

02:13:04.000 What do you think, Phil?

02:13:05.000 I don't know.

02:13:08.000 I don't know if the if I think it will be sooner or if it'll be in a year.

02:13:13.000 I don't know that I have uh uh an opinion on whether or not it will happen, but I will say that I would not be surprised at all if it happen if it happens.

02:13:21.000 And the response will be largely like at least the response from the left will be largely like this one.

02:13:28.000 First, they'll they'll try to deny it, and then they'll go ahead and say, well, the person was so bad.

02:13:33.000 Look at all these things he said that don't live up to what we think they should be saying.

02:13:38.000 Um and I don't know what the the response from the the conservatives will be either.

02:13:43.000 I I don't know.

02:13:44.000 There's there's so many variables and stuff, but I do think that uh I do think the federal government should be doing what it can to prevent it, and I don't know exactly what that is or how much how much leeway it has.

02:13:57.000 Um, because I I you don't know where it would come from.

02:14:00.000 Like I do think that like the trans ideology probably has a lot, a lot to look at because they tend to take the fact that Christians exist personally.

02:14:12.000 They do.

02:14:13.000 They really do.

02:14:14.000 You know the one the one thing I can say though is I'm not worried at all because I can't die, because I'm me.

02:14:18.000 You know what I mean?

02:14:20.000 And if and if you guys know anything about uh the the quantum quantum state theory of self, it's that you yourself will never die, but your death will trigger the creation of a new universe in which other people experience life where you are dead, but you personally will not have died.

02:14:36.000 Yes.

02:14:36.000 Uh also known as the Mario Brothers theory, where every time you die, the quantum state resets to a point where you were alive and you narrowly avoid death.

02:14:44.000 So every time you've almost died in in infinite number of universes, you did, except the one you exist in, you can never experience death.

02:14:52.000 So there you go.

02:14:53.000 Yeah, so I'm all right.

02:14:55.000 You guys might have to experience that universe, but I won't.

02:14:58.000 And you run your cameras sometimes and the cameraman never dies.

02:15:01.000 So it's true.

02:15:02.000 Cameraman never takes.

02:15:03.000 All right, Lecter and brother, man.

02:15:05.000 Thanks for joining in as a special caller.

02:15:06.000 Did you want to uh shout anything out before you go?

02:15:10.000 Uh yeah, I mean, uh nothing personal, but um be with your families tonight.

02:15:13.000 Uh be with them tomorrow, be with them next week.

02:15:15.000 Uh hug 'em, hold them tight.

02:15:17.000 You only get uh you only get a chance to raise them once.

02:15:19.000 So be the parent you should be and uh about it.

02:15:24.000 Awesome, man.

02:15:24.000 Right on, man.

02:15:25.000 We'll see you in a month.

02:15:26.000 All right, see you soon, guys.

02:15:28.000 Take care, brother.

02:15:29.000 All right, let's get to our actual callers now.

02:15:32.000 Shout out to Lectern guy. 0.99

02:15:33.000 We got angry fat white guy. 0.99

02:15:35.000 What is up? 1.00

02:15:36.000 Fat white Hey folks. 0.96

02:15:38.000 I I don't know how I follow up uh via Getty, but uh I'll try.

02:15:42.000 Um before I start, look look, I know uh some of y'all were personally acquainted with with Charlie Kirk, um, and and even called him a friend.

02:15:52.000 Um I I never met the man and I am profoundly affected by his death.

02:15:56.000 So I can't imagine what you all are going through.

02:15:58.000 So I just want to tell you, you know, yeah, my condolences.

02:16:01.000 I'm very sorry for your loss.

02:16:04.000 Um that said, um, and you guys touched on it uh today a bit.

02:16:09.000 Pam Bondi, I I I do not trust that woman. 0.99

02:16:12.000 I don't trust her as the attorney general.

02:16:15.000 Um her recent remarks on uh hate speech and and I don't think she was trying to advance some policy or set some new rules.

02:16:22.000 I I think she probably misspoke.

02:16:24.000 But uh it's not resonating well with BAGA.

02:16:27.000 Yeah.

02:16:28.000 Um and she's had a lot of other public gaffes. 0.99

02:16:30.000 Um her 180 complaint about faith on the Epstein client list after you know, talking so so much about thousands of of files and names or whatnot.

02:16:41.000 Um I'm not seeing any any people uh being rounded up.

02:16:45.000 Like we know Adam Schiff committed crimes.

02:16:48.000 We know Hunter Biden, like all these people, we know they're crooked.

02:16:52.000 It and it's it's out in the open.

02:16:53.000 And and I'm not seeing the rest.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 17, 2025

DOJ Releases Charlie Kirk Assassin Messages, Trans Left Aligned Confirmed | Timcast IRL

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