Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - DOJ Rules Biden TOO OLD TO BE PROSECUTED, Tucker Putin Video DROPS w-Bill Ottman | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 The interview between Tucker Carlson and Vladimir Putin is out!

00:00:17.000 Wow, to say the least.

00:00:19.000 The first 30 minutes are a history lesson, very interesting.

00:00:22.000 And I think Vladimir Putin missed a tremendous opportunity, a tremendous opportunity for him, but fine, so be it.

00:00:28.000 Because Tucker Carlson does in fact ask about the jailed Wall Street Journal reporter, and he actually tried to get the reporter home, on the spot, and Putin said, nah.

00:00:39.000 We'll get into all of that, and I'll talk about why there was a missed opportunity for Putin.

00:00:43.000 But there are some interesting revelations that came out of that interview.

00:00:45.000 Although Putin does say several times, these are not new statements.

00:00:48.000 I've said these before.

00:00:49.000 I do think in context with Tucker, there are some interesting things being brought up as to the perception of Russia.

00:00:56.000 Of course, it's what most people said.

00:01:03.000 That Vladimir Putin views a CIA coup, took over Ukraine, got rid of Yanukovych.

00:01:09.000 And there's a lot more we'll get into.

00:01:10.000 I don't want to break down the whole thing because again, a lot to talk about.

00:01:13.000 But we do have big domestic news and that is Joe Biden.

00:01:17.000 You know he had a bunch of classified documents and for that he was facing criminal prosecution.

00:01:23.000 The DOJ special special counsel has said he has mental limitations and it would be hard to convince a jury that is anything but a dottering old man with memory problems who doesn't have the force of will to actually commit crimes.

00:01:38.000 I kid you not. 0.99

00:01:40.000 The DOJ is actually saying look this guy's so old He's gonna look really sympathetic for being a doddering old fool. 0.99

00:01:47.000 Amazing that he's our president. 0.99

00:01:49.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:50.000 And seriously, a lot to break down in the Biden department because he once again referenced a dead politician, a former politician.

00:01:58.000 Now for the second time, The degradation of Joe Biden.

00:02:02.000 It's getting absolutely crazy.

00:02:03.000 So there's a lot to break down in terms of this Joe Biden-DOJ decision, as well as the Tucker Carlson-Vladimir Putin interview.

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00:03:59.000 Joining us tonight is Bill Ottman.

00:04:02.000 Hey, hey.

00:04:02.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:03.000 Who are you?

00:04:03.000 What do you do?

00:04:04.000 Hey, I'm Bill.

00:04:05.000 I'm the founder of Minds, Minds.com.

00:04:07.000 We're an open-source, decentralized social network.

00:04:10.000 Ian is a co-founder as well.

00:04:12.000 That's right, Bill.

00:04:14.000 We just launched on scnr.com a New independent network based on the mind software hybridized with inverted tech.

00:04:24.000 So now if you go to the comments on scanner.com that is you have to make an account on the scanner network and it's all federated on the Fediverse and this is what we're doing.

00:04:33.000 It's basically like a social it's like it's own becoming its own Twitter essentially right and it's a news website with a staff that produces content everything.

00:04:39.000 Yes.

00:04:40.000 Wonderful.

00:04:40.000 We also got a lot hanging out.

00:04:41.000 Hey everybody, what's going on?

00:04:42.000 My name is Elad Eliyahu.

00:04:44.000 I'm a journalist here at TimCast News.

00:04:46.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:47.000 Did anyone ever tell you that you look like the lead singer from Young The Giant?

00:04:50.000 I haven't got that.

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00:04:57.000 When he comes back to me, I'll bring it up.

00:04:58.000 They're a good band, by the way.

00:04:58.000 They've got some awesome songs.

00:05:00.000 But we were watching a music video and I was like, oh look, it's Elad's band.

00:05:03.000 And then someone looked and saw and was like, what?

00:05:05.000 Like they actually thought it was you for a second.

00:05:07.000 I was like, no.

00:05:08.000 Your hair looks really good today.

00:05:09.000 How it kind of goes up on the side.

00:05:11.000 It's a good hair day.

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00:05:13.000 Who plays Ruxin in The League?

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00:05:18.000 I get told I look like Nick Kroll.

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00:05:20.000 A more handsome Nick Kroll.

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00:05:24.000 You can't see him, but Mr. Bocas is hanging out right here as well.

00:05:26.000 He decided to come up to the studio and he's sitting in front of me.

00:05:28.000 But we got Shane Cashman hanging out.

00:05:29.000 What up?

00:05:30.000 What up?

00:05:30.000 I write about ghosts for Inverted World.

00:05:32.000 This is why I'm reaching out to Joe Biden, the medium in the White House.

00:05:37.000 He's so close to death, he can see the other side.

00:05:39.000 That's exactly right.

00:05:40.000 The veil is very thin in the White House.

00:05:43.000 I'm also hosting the MindsFest April 27th.

00:05:46.000 Ian's gonna be there, we got Bill's gonna be there, we got Tripoli's gonna be there, Jimmy Dore, a lot of great people.

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00:05:56.000 Honestly, it's like Destiny's gonna be there.

00:05:57.000 Lauren Chen's doing stand-up comedy.

00:05:59.000 Luke Kowalski's gonna be there.

00:06:01.000 Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

00:06:03.000 Austin's always a great time.

00:06:05.000 And I wanna just give a special shout-out to Richie Jackson, who got me this bangin' shirt!

00:06:09.000 Yo, Richie knows my style better than almost anybody.

00:06:11.000 I love it.

00:06:13.000 So, Richie, your spirit is with me.

00:06:14.000 It looks like one of his shirts.

00:06:15.000 It smells good, too, Richie.

00:06:17.000 I wonder if he wore it and didn't wash it, just so I can smell him.

00:06:20.000 But I like it, Richie.

00:06:21.000 Is there a story to the shirt?

00:06:22.000 Is that from somewhere?

00:06:23.000 No, no, maybe Richie.

00:06:26.000 If there is, Richie knows.

00:06:28.000 It's from New Zealand.

00:06:28.000 Richie Jackson, the Feech.

00:06:30.000 That's F-E-A-T-C-H all over the internet. 1.00

00:06:33.000 Check him out, Richie Jackson.

00:06:33.000 One of the greatest skaters on earth.

00:06:35.000 Yeah, awesome dude.

00:06:36.000 Funny guy.

00:06:36.000 We got Serge Bresna Buns.

00:06:38.000 Yo, I am here.

00:06:39.000 I'm wearing merch from this famous soda you might have heard of.

00:06:44.000 It's not how you spell my name.

00:06:44.000 My name is spelled with an S-E-R-G-E.

00:06:46.000 But yeah, let's get to the show.

00:06:48.000 Just like a year and a half ago, we bought several cases of Surge because you can still buy it.

00:06:53.000 We'll just order more.

00:06:55.000 It's funny.

00:06:55.000 I mean, I just don't like ordering the super sugary stuff.

00:06:57.000 Like we have liquid death.

00:06:58.000 It's got 30 calories and a tall boy.

00:07:00.000 So yeah, give me that.

00:07:01.000 All right, let's read the news.

00:07:02.000 Yeah, let's go.

00:07:03.000 From scnr.com, DOJ will not seek criminal charges against Biden due to his mental limitations.

00:07:10.000 It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness. 0.99

00:07:19.000 Holy crap. 0.98

00:07:22.000 They are saying that Biden is So old and broken, he does not have his own force of will anymore. 0.99

00:07:30.000 Or at the very least, to be fair, you could not convince a reasonable person that Biden has a mental state of willfulness.

00:07:38.000 I'm thinking about Reagan.

00:07:40.000 I think they did this with Reagan.

00:07:41.000 Do you remember Ronald Reagan being like, I've got Alzheimer's?

00:07:44.000 And they're like, OK, then you can't punish him for all the war crimes he did or whatever he did in the 80s.

00:07:48.000 He's like, yeah, I don't even remember.

00:07:49.000 And they're like, all right.

00:07:50.000 You think Reagan was acting?

00:07:52.000 I think that maybe they played the Alzheimer's thing up to get out of some of the stuff he'd done.

00:07:58.000 I've heard that.

00:07:58.000 I think his friends used it to get stuff into the law, actually.

00:08:04.000 If Biden cannot be held accountable because of his diminished mental state, he cannot be president.

00:08:08.000 No, you're right.

00:08:09.000 So I did see a tweet from Jack Posobiec, and he was like, because of the classified documents, we may not get a prosecution, but we may get the 25th Amendment.

00:08:19.000 Yeah.

00:08:19.000 Right.

00:08:19.000 And that's where we could remove Joe Biden for a bit.

00:08:21.000 And then, wow, Kamala Harris, I guess.

00:08:24.000 And they were talking about the 25th Amendment at the end of Trump.

00:08:26.000 And people were like, they're using it for Trump, but they were setting this up.

00:08:28.000 No, no.

00:08:29.000 It was like when they announced the 25th Amendment panel was being created, which the 25th Amendment says, like, you can basically remove an incapacitated president.

00:08:37.000 So they're going to create this committee and then vote out in Congress that would have the ability to make the determination if the president was mentally unfit.

00:08:44.000 Everyone's like, they're going to do this to get rid of Trump.

00:08:46.000 And then within like 10 minutes, everyone's like, actually, they're doing this to get rid of Biden.

00:08:51.000 Democrats are setting this up to get rid of Biden.

00:08:53.000 Yeah.

00:08:53.000 What was the lawsuit they were trying to push forward?

00:08:56.000 They said they can't.

00:08:57.000 No, this is criminal charges.

00:08:59.000 He will not be criminally prosecuted for the crimes he committed.

00:09:03.000 Let me read.

00:09:04.000 In the report it says, in his interview with our office, Mr. Biden's memory was worse.

00:09:09.000 He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended.

00:09:14.000 If it was 2013, when did I stop being vice president?

00:09:17.000 And forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began.

00:09:21.000 In 2009, am I still vice president?

00:09:24.000 He did not remember even within several years when his son Beau died.

00:09:28.000 And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate.

00:09:32.000 That was what's so important to him.

00:09:33.000 Among other things, he mistakenly said he had a real difference of opinion with General Carl Eikenberry, when in fact Eikenberry was an ally who Mr. Biden cited approvingly in his Thanksgiving memo to President Obama.

00:09:47.000 This is the DOJ being like, uh, this guy has no force of will.

00:09:51.000 Like, he's gone.

00:09:53.000 I thought you were going to say Ikenberry was a cartoon character that Biden used to watch in the 50s.

00:09:58.000 Ikenberry was the character on the Lots of Berries cereal box.

00:10:01.000 So do you think he's going to make it to the end of the term?

00:10:04.000 Really?

00:10:04.000 No.

00:10:04.000 You don't think so?

00:10:05.000 I don't.

00:10:06.000 What do you think is going to happen?

00:10:07.000 I don't know.

00:10:08.000 It could be many things.

00:10:09.000 I did say this back in, like, November.

00:10:12.000 I did a segment where I was looking at all the news and I was like, Biden will be out.

00:10:16.000 He will be out some way.

00:10:17.000 I have to say, like, right now it's hard to believe because it's February and we're so close to the election.

00:10:23.000 I think a reasonable conclusion is, man, if it came down to it and I had to put 10 bucks on he's in or he's out, he's out.

00:10:32.000 I think they're gonna have him do some type of sympathetic step-down, where he's gonna be like this corpse figure, giving a speech, saying, I can't do this anymore, it's for the better of the country, and they're gonna do that to make him, yeah, like, sympathetic to people.

00:10:44.000 Well, he won't make it through that speech.

00:10:46.000 You're right.

00:10:47.000 They'll need AI.

00:10:49.000 Every speech, he has a gaffe.

00:10:51.000 Yes.

00:10:52.000 Like, there isn't a normal one.

00:10:54.000 He's speaking right now, apparently.

00:10:56.000 Should we pull it up?

00:10:56.000 Oh, we should watch?

00:10:57.000 I heard he was going live at like 7.45.

00:11:00.000 Yeah, he did like some unscheduled speech.

00:11:02.000 Maybe he's talking about Putin.

00:11:03.000 I don't know.

00:11:03.000 I've just seen the chat below saying he's speaking live right now.

00:11:05.000 I mean, I don't know if I care all that much.

00:11:07.000 I don't.

00:11:08.000 I just love that the people who thought Covfef was like Trump being mentally deranged are okay with this.

00:11:14.000 By providing ammunition and material for them to defend themselves.

00:11:17.000 Wow, he is live.

00:11:18.000 Coincidentally, that's the time frame when this broke out.

00:11:23.000 I have no proof what I'm about to say, but it's not unreasonable to suspect that the Hamas understood what was about to take place and wanted to break it up before it happened.

00:11:33.000 Hey, good timing on our part.

00:11:38.000 He just walks off.

00:11:40.000 Did a hand just emerge to tell him to come this way?

00:11:43.000 Did you guys see the, uh, I think so.

00:11:45.000 What the f- Coincidentally.

00:11:47.000 Did you guys see the interview he was doing?

00:11:48.000 Where the reporter goes off script and immediately his hand is like, Oh, Mr. Biden, Mr. Biden.

00:11:54.000 And he's like, no, no, no, I'm going to do this anyway.

00:11:56.000 I was about to take place and wanted to break it up before it happened.

00:12:04.000 I think he's remote controlled.

00:12:05.000 There's a hand.

00:12:06.000 There's a camera.

00:12:07.000 I wish it was a movie or something to laugh at.

00:12:11.000 Or is it remote control?

00:12:12.000 I guess there's a hand on the camera.

00:12:13.000 What if that is the hand of the real president?

00:12:15.000 When's the last time he took questions, like full-blown press conference?

00:12:18.000 Never.

00:12:19.000 Never.

00:12:19.000 Yeah.

00:12:20.000 They've always been submitted.

00:12:21.000 Yo, he's skipping the Super Bowl interview, which is like a big deal.

00:12:24.000 I guess the second time he's refused to do an interview, like the president does a Super Bowl interview, it's like a big moment in the country.

00:12:29.000 Really?

00:12:30.000 Trump's like, I'll do it.

00:12:31.000 And they're, you know, they're not going to do it with Trump though.

00:12:33.000 You know, I think it's important, for history's sake, that everyone remember this moment.

00:12:41.000 Where you were.

00:12:42.000 A moment you'll never forget.

00:12:44.000 When the DOJ said Joe Biden's mental state had diminished to the point of no longer being a willful human being.

00:12:53.000 That is to say, this is the day when it was determined by our executive branch, the president was no longer a sentient human being.

00:13:01.000 This thing, if someone commits like a crime, but they're not mentally aware, you put them in a mental institution.

00:13:07.000 You don't put them in the jail necessarily, you take them to a hospital because they weren't mentally prepared or mentally cognizant.

00:13:13.000 I have a story for you guys.

00:13:14.000 It's a story that I've told maybe twice on this show.

00:13:17.000 When I was about 14, in my neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, there was a rumor.

00:13:22.000 Don't know the exact details or how it went down, but this is the story that we were told when we were children.

00:13:28.000 That a girl our age had been crossing the street when an elderly man blew the stop sign running her over.

00:13:36.000 She was crossing in a crosswalk with a stop sign as an Oldsmobile was coming up, and she didn't think it mattered because the car would stop, but it didn't, and it ran her over.

00:13:47.000 It was a very old man who was driving, and when he hit her, he stopped instantly.

00:13:52.000 She was now underneath his car.

00:13:55.000 Not knowing what he hit, he put it in reverse, backing up, crushing her head like a melon.

00:14:01.000 Splattering it.

00:14:02.000 That's what we were told. 1.00

00:14:03.000 Killing her. 0.98

00:14:04.000 And that if he had not moved, she would have lived. 0.94

00:14:07.000 The penalty for this was, they revoked his license.

00:14:11.000 I mean, what are you going to do?

00:14:12.000 It was an older man.

00:14:13.000 I mean, apparently he was in his 70s or something.

00:14:17.000 And did he commit a crime?

00:14:20.000 Or is he just incapacitated at this point?

00:14:23.000 He should no longer drive due to his diminished mental state.

00:14:26.000 So they determined, based on this, we will remove his license.

00:14:29.000 Now, I don't know the full details.

00:14:31.000 I'm sure the story was not 100% that way.

00:14:33.000 That's just what we were all hearing and everyone was saying.

00:14:35.000 Because, like, a girl our age went to school at the same time.

00:14:37.000 I don't know who she was. 0.92

00:14:38.000 Died!

00:14:38.000 But it was, like, friends of friends.

00:14:41.000 Do we want to wait for that moment with Joe Biden?

00:14:43.000 No, not for the commander of the military.

00:14:44.000 When he presses the button?

00:14:47.000 And then when a city like Moscow is wiped out?

00:14:52.000 And we're facing down the barrel of all of Russia's ICBMs. 0.74

00:14:55.000 Everyone just says, maybe we should impeach him now.

00:14:59.000 The thing is, the American people have not been privy to a real military loss in my lifetime.

00:15:06.000 They don't understand what it means if your commander slips up, whether intentionally or unintentionally, and causes

00:15:10.000 the death of women.

00:15:12.000 Your wife, your wife and your children and your families and your city is burned to the ground because of some 0.94

00:15:17.000 mistake.

00:15:17.000 The immediately he's removed from power immediately, whether it's the president, the lead, the general in charge,

00:15:23.000 they're stripped of command if they do that.

00:15:25.000 Well, people, yeah, not to make you guys think any worse of the guy, but apparently he walked off when we were watching

00:15:31.000 him and then he walked back out.

00:15:33.000 And then he said that BB was the president of Mexico, so...

00:15:36.000 No.

00:15:37.000 Yo.

00:15:37.000 Is that a bit, sir?

00:15:39.000 Is that a bit?

00:15:40.000 You may not believe me, but that's what I'm getting from chat.

00:15:42.000 That's what he said.

00:15:43.000 And you guys don't believe me about Joe Biden making an announcement?

00:15:48.000 I don't believe he walked back out.

00:15:49.000 That's what I've been told.

00:15:51.000 I mean, the stream shut down.

00:15:52.000 Is there some other video on that or something?

00:15:53.000 No.

00:15:54.000 I don't know.

00:15:54.000 That's it.

00:15:55.000 Was that the second time he walked off?

00:15:56.000 I don't know if there's a first one.

00:15:58.000 They said that he walked off and came back at some point.

00:16:00.000 He walks off after a reporter questions him.

00:16:02.000 Then he comes back.

00:16:03.000 Reporters grilled him about his age, his memory.

00:16:05.000 Really?

00:16:05.000 Well, I suppose I'll have to try and find that on X or something.

00:16:11.000 He won't be charged in a classified documents case because he has poor memory.

00:16:15.000 Oh my god! 0.98

00:16:17.000 Well, I don't think he should be charged in that stupid case anyway, but not because of poor memory, just because why would you charge an ex-vice president for accidentally or for even intentionally maybe having a bunch of documents? 0.99

00:16:27.000 So we have this. 0.99

00:16:28.000 Let's play the clip from Newsmax.

00:16:30.000 So I don't know if he came back out.

00:16:33.000 Here we go.

00:16:34.000 Something the special counsel said in his report is that one of the reasons you were not charged is because, in his description, you are a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.

00:16:48.000 I'm an elderly man, and I know what the hell I'm doing.

00:16:51.000 I've been president, and I put this country back on its feet.

00:16:54.000 I don't need his recommendation.

00:16:56.000 His lawyer's going, stop! 1.00

00:16:57.000 Shut up! 1.00

00:16:58.000 Stop! 1.00

00:16:59.000 It's your memory, and can you continue as president?

00:17:02.000 My memory is so bad I can let you speak.

00:17:05.000 What?

00:17:06.000 Can you tell your memory has gotten worse?

00:17:11.000 No, that's right though! 0.98

00:17:12.000 That's Doocy!

00:17:14.000 He's gonna get ya!

00:17:15.000 If you remembered this, you wouldn't let him speak.

00:17:17.000 My memory is fine.

00:17:20.000 Take a look at what I've done since I've become president.

00:17:22.000 None of you thought I could pass any of the things I got passed.

00:17:25.000 How'd that happen?

00:17:26.000 You know, I guess I just forgot what was going on.

00:17:30.000 At least he took a question.

00:17:31.000 No, no, listen, listen.

00:17:33.000 Right now his lawyers are facepalming like, the DOJ just let you walk?

00:17:38.000 You went on television said no, I'm fine.

00:17:40.000 He literally says, the DOJ says they're not gonna prosecute you because your memory's no good.

00:17:44.000 No, my memory's fine.

00:17:45.000 You literally just said prosecute me!

00:17:47.000 Yep, right.

00:17:48.000 I think they're weaning him off all the uppers so he can melt into a pile of skin before they like sweep him off the stage and then let Kamala come in. 0.91

00:17:56.000 When they're like, I hear your memory's bad, and he's like, yeah, my memory is so bad.

00:18:00.000 He's doing the sarcasm thing, which is just indicating that he does believe he has a bad memory.

00:18:03.000 I need a fact check, Serge.

00:18:05.000 He didn't say that Benjamin Netanyahu was the president of Mexico.

00:18:09.000 He said Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, allegedly, was the president of Mexico.

00:18:15.000 Oh, my mistake.

00:18:16.000 I apologize.

00:18:17.000 I'm sorry.

00:18:18.000 Okay, hold on.

00:18:19.000 It doesn't matter, because we have this from the post-millennial.

00:18:22.000 Justin!

00:18:23.000 Biden says he will be president for everybody, whether you live in a red state or a green state.

00:18:29.000 It's incredible.

00:18:29.000 It's my Christmas joke.

00:18:30.000 Ian said this as we were pulling this story up.

00:18:32.000 He's like, he must be talking about Christmas.

00:18:33.000 He's still in December.

00:18:34.000 I said he was addressing the North Pole.

00:18:38.000 Most people don't know this, but the North Pole, the jurisdiction by which Santa Claus rules, is actually divided into seven different states with warring political factions between Republicans and the Green Party.

00:18:48.000 Democrats don't exist up there for some reason.

00:18:50.000 And so whether you're in a red state or a green state, this is not a joke.

00:18:54.000 He said this.

00:18:56.000 Yo, let's roll. 0.99

00:18:56.000 Here we go. 0.99

00:18:59.000 When I said, when I pushed all these programs, I said I'm going to be president for everybody whether they live in a red state or a green state.

00:19:09.000 Yo, whenever I see stuff like this it just reminds me of, what was it, Dr. Strangelove riding the atomic bomb down.

00:19:18.000 Everybody should watch that movie tonight.

00:19:20.000 The upside is, Tucker's interview with Putin actually gives me, like, Putin's not demented at the very least.

00:19:26.000 Maybe he's got ulterior motives that we don't know about, but he's clear.

00:19:29.000 He's intelligent, but he's a good guy in every story he tells.

00:19:33.000 Putin.

00:19:33.000 Yeah.

00:19:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:19:34.000 Can we get, like, Seamus to make that joke where it's, like, Joe Biden standing at the stage going, I have a memory's good, you know, if you live in a green state, I told you.

00:19:42.000 And then he starts walking away.

00:19:43.000 And then as soon as he goes in the other room, he goes, Alright, what's the next move we're making?

00:19:48.000 We made it off.

00:19:50.000 They're like, Mr. President, the act worked, they're not going to prosecute you because everyone believes you're senile and decrepit.

00:19:55.000 He might be doing that.

00:19:56.000 True, true, he might be doing that.

00:19:57.000 I do believe, I don't know if Reagan did that or not, I don't know, but when someone told me that he might have played up the Alzheimer's, he's an actor, you know, Reagan was an actor, the whole like, well, I might go to prison for life, or if I just kind of play along with the whole Alzheimer's thing, maybe I'll just get to quietly live out my days.

00:20:13.000 And Biden's like, yeah, maybe I'll just play this character of like... Nate!

00:20:17.000 They have to 25th Amendment him at this point.

00:20:20.000 I mean, if they're not going to prosecute him because they're saying he's got a diminished mental state, if they're saying he lacks the will to be able to hold him accountable for his crimes, they've publicly stated he could do anything he wants now.

00:20:35.000 Maybe that's what they want.

00:20:36.000 The Krasensteins love it.

00:20:38.000 They're tweeting about voting for this guy no matter what his mental capacity is.

00:20:40.000 What, today they did?

00:20:41.000 One of them did, yeah.

00:20:42.000 Yeah, but this is why I say they're evil.

00:20:43.000 Because when it comes to the lies from the corporate press about Elon and X, they immediately, like, they jump in line and say, oh, the media is lying about Elon!

00:20:52.000 And then when it comes to Trump, they're like, they're telling the truth about him.

00:20:54.000 That's right.

00:20:54.000 It's like, we know who butters your bread.

00:20:56.000 The Democrats and X. You make money on the platform, and they posted, like, we only made $400, you know, in the past pay period.

00:21:03.000 And I'm like, yeah, so you're desperate to make more.

00:21:05.000 Exactly.

00:21:06.000 They'll just say whatever it is benefits them, and if it's the establishment narrative, or if it's X, their position makes no sense.

00:21:14.000 Personally, I like them a lot.

00:21:15.000 I'm not refuting what you guys are saying, I don't know.

00:21:17.000 But I know they're not really political guys.

00:21:19.000 At least according to them, they're like, dude, I feel stuck in politics right now, and I don't know how to get out of it.

00:21:23.000 I don't care about these two guys, but who cares about these two guys individually?

00:21:27.000 It's the issue of the left grift.

00:21:30.000 Like, their positions just align wherever the power is for them, and they'll take it.

00:21:34.000 So yes, you have people like them, you have many others, happy that Joe Biden is mentally diminished.

00:21:41.000 And won't be prosecuted.

00:21:43.000 And they would rather vote for him than Donald Trump.

00:21:45.000 Makes no sense.

00:21:48.000 Trump derangement syndrome is going easy on these guys. 0.52

00:21:51.000 Trump psychosis syndrome or something.

00:21:53.000 If Trump acted like this, they would have been having meltdowns in the streets.

00:21:56.000 They would have had insurrections.

00:21:57.000 It would be all over TV.

00:21:58.000 People would be pointing out how slow he is.

00:22:00.000 They'd be putting it up against what he was like six years ago.

00:22:02.000 And they'd be like, look how much worse he is.

00:22:04.000 It would be, don't vote for this guy.

00:22:05.000 That guy's bad.

00:22:07.000 I wish they would give Biden the treatment, man.

00:22:09.000 I wish they would show people.

00:22:11.000 I feel bad.

00:22:13.000 What if Joe Biden was speaking in context and the post-millennial with this clip?

00:22:19.000 They just, you know, pulled a fast one on us, and Biden was talking about Republican states or states that have legalized marijuana.

00:22:25.000 That's right.

00:22:25.000 And for those that aren't watching this, Tim just read that from a Krasenstein tweet.

00:22:30.000 That's what that was, so.

00:22:31.000 He was clearly referencing states with recreational marijuana!

00:22:33.000 He was referencing the Green Party.

00:22:35.000 It was the Green Party.

00:22:36.000 It was interesting that Tucker was pushing Putin on, like, well, why don't you just call up Joe?

00:22:41.000 Yeah, that was funny.

00:22:42.000 And Putin, like, didn't seem to think that that would be productive.

00:22:46.000 He laughed.

00:22:46.000 For understandable reasons.

00:22:48.000 But I actually appreciate that kind of a question because I feel like world leaders actually don't call each other up a lot.

00:22:56.000 They have their kind of handlers talk and it's just- Putin was way wrong on this one.

00:23:01.000 He should absolutely- Putin, I'm sorry- He should call him.

00:23:03.000 I watched that interview and I won't get into all of it, but he missed a lot.

00:23:08.000 He has proven himself to be an ineffective leader.

00:23:10.000 And just for the- I want to save it for the next segment we do because it's a big story.

00:23:14.000 But I just want to say in this context, he absolutely should call Joe Biden.

00:23:18.000 Because then he's gonna be like, hey Joe, who's this?

00:23:22.000 It's your brother.

00:23:24.000 Joe!

00:23:25.000 Oh, what do you need?

00:23:27.000 100 billion dollars.

00:23:28.000 Oh, tell me where to wear it.

00:23:30.000 Wire it to Putin.

00:23:30.000 Okay.

00:23:31.000 He can get anything he wants.

00:23:33.000 He can call and be like, you know, we should get our troops out of Ukraine.

00:23:37.000 Oh, whatever you say, brother.

00:23:39.000 What are you doing calling me from Russia with a Russian accent?

00:23:42.000 He's gonna be like, it's how I talk now.

00:23:44.000 Oh, okay.

00:23:45.000 Just take the opportunity.

00:23:46.000 It's a joke.

00:23:48.000 It's a joke.

00:23:49.000 It's a funny joke.

00:23:51.000 I think when Putin, when Tucker was like, why don't you just call Joe and work some stuff out so we can avoid World War III, Putin was like, ah, it's already taken care of.

00:23:59.000 We don't need to worry about it.

00:24:00.000 Like he seemed like they have people and the Americans have people that are already decided we're not going to have World War III.

00:24:05.000 That's what it seemed like it sounded like.

00:24:07.000 I like that it seems easier for Tucker to interview Putin than it is for him to interview Biden.

00:24:12.000 Yeah.

00:24:13.000 Biden's not going to sit down with Tucker.

00:24:14.000 They trotted out all the people, even Hillary last night, to condemn this interview.

00:24:18.000 He could go to Russia and interview Putin.

00:24:19.000 Western journalists haven't even bothered interviewing Joe Biden.

00:24:25.000 I think he interviewed on the Weather Channel once.

00:24:26.000 Did he?

00:24:28.000 No, but it's funny because when Tucker said that, he was wrong, but he was right.

00:24:32.000 Okay, like here's the issue.

00:24:33.000 Russia came out and said, Tucker Carlson is incorrect.

00:24:36.000 A lot of people have reached out to us for interviews with Putin, but we just turned them down.

00:24:40.000 But I gotta push back on Russia.

00:24:43.000 The people contacting Vladimir Putin for interviews are not journalists.

00:24:46.000 They're state actors and propagandists and smear merchants.

00:24:49.000 Tucker Carlson may be one of the only journalists who's actually tried to get an interview with Vladimir Putin.

00:24:54.000 So the issue is, when Tucker's talking about Western journalists, he's referencing, like, You know, Libby Emmons, or Stephen Crowder's team, or James O'Keefe.

00:25:05.000 Like, why hasn't James O'Keefe tried to interview?

00:25:07.000 Because he's not talking about the New York Times CIA assets, or the Daily Beast, or Rolling CIA Stone.

00:25:13.000 I'm kidding, by the way, but like, as if anyone thinks these news outlets are anything but mouthpieces for the state.

00:25:20.000 Come on, you're full of it.

00:25:21.000 You can watch James O'Keefe, and what I love about how they go after James, Is that when he was doing these sting operations on, like, Google, they were like, he's far right!

00:25:30.000 And he was like, are you implying that by going after Google, they're far left?

00:25:34.000 Like, I don't understand what your point is.

00:25:36.000 He goes after these big tech companies, and then immediately the media calls him far right for doing so, or they claim that he only goes after left, left, lefting organizations, and he's like, is, is Google left-wing, or are they just a big tech company?

00:25:47.000 But they expose themselves when they do this.

00:25:49.000 You take a look at, um, we can mention this briefly, like, I don't know if you guys saw this, NBC News advocated for putting Higher Right Chick of Libs of TikTok in prison. 0.76

00:25:59.000 You see this?

00:26:00.000 They did a big thread where they were like, following several posts by libs of TikTok, bomb threats happened.

00:26:05.000 And then on NBC News, this lady's like, is there a possibility we can hold her accountable for this? 0.99

00:26:10.000 And the guy's like, well, she didn't do the bomb threads, but you know, that's where they're going with it.

00:26:15.000 Well, they would love for stochastic terrorism to become like actual law. 0.92

00:26:21.000 Oh, because then it's just, anything's interpretable as being illegal.

00:26:24.000 Speak, like at that point saying like, I just plain don't like Joe Biden.

00:26:27.000 That's a crime.

00:26:29.000 You know, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest becomes a capital offense.

00:26:32.000 Do you think that leftism in general is inherent to corporate, like, totalitarian corporate technocracy?

00:26:39.000 Like, is it just, is that a leftist thing?

00:26:41.000 The idea of, like, governing with corporatism?

00:26:43.000 No, no, no.

00:26:45.000 Corporatism could be left or right.

00:26:49.000 There's this kind of, like, the interesting thing about the fascists, and I should say, well, no, the Nazis is a better way to put it, is that it was a pseudo-market system, but there was an ideological capture, as opposed to communism, where you had state capture.

00:27:05.000 So with the communists in Russia, they're basically like, you will do as you are told, you report to us.

00:27:10.000 With the Nazis, they were like, how come you weren't producing steel for our effort?

00:27:16.000 You're not a trader, are you?

00:27:18.000 And then they're like, no, no, no, no, I'll do it.

00:27:19.000 And it was more like, with the Nazis, it was cancel culture. 0.77

00:27:23.000 It was fear that you'd be shunned, ostracized, or worse as time progressed.

00:27:27.000 And so everyone just fell in line.

00:27:29.000 Because, I mean, Kristallnacht, for instance.

00:27:31.000 Like, just mass rampage of destruction and targeting of people.

00:27:35.000 It was fear that you'd be targeted, too, if you fell out of line.

00:27:38.000 With the communists, they wore uniforms, marched to your house, and shot you in the face.

00:27:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:42.000 So they were, like, right there telling you what they were doing.

00:27:44.000 And I will state this, too, with a caveat.

00:27:46.000 I read one academic paper on it talking about the economic structure of Nazism and how it permeated through Germany, so it's probably much more nuanced than that.

00:27:56.000 The Nazis had, like, no... I mean, they masked, like, a great revival of their economy, basically, by building tanks. 0.75

00:28:02.000 And they were telling everyone they were building cars.

00:28:04.000 And then they were like, we have no way to make profit on what we're doing, but we're amassing resources to build, build, build, build, build.

00:28:10.000 Because their whole plan was just to conquer foreign land and then repay their debts through riches, you know, conquered.

00:28:17.000 It was just a mess of an economy.

00:28:19.000 And it looked so good on paper.

00:28:22.000 Let's talk about Vladimir Putin.

00:28:24.000 So we have a bunch of stories to break down.

00:28:26.000 The interview Tucker Carlson had with Vladimir Putin is officially up on TuckerCarlson.com.

00:28:31.000 It is a must, must watch.

00:28:34.000 There are some dry points, I must admit.

00:28:37.000 The first half an hour is a history lesson.

00:28:39.000 I literally fell asleep.

00:28:41.000 Forgive me, but I'm like, I'm falling asleep.

00:28:43.000 Listen, it's like 1826, the state of Rus', and the baptism, and I'm just like, this is okay.

00:28:50.000 Tucker actually caveats the interview in the beginning saying, We thought he was pattering for time, but there was no time limit to the interview, so... He's like, I genuinely believe Putin was expressing his statement that there is a historical claim to Ukraine we have.

00:29:04.000 And I agree with Tucker.

00:29:06.000 And I don't see why anyone in the US, anyone in the West, even the government, would take a different view than Tucker did.

00:29:12.000 Putin is explaining that, historically, Ukraine is theirs.

00:29:16.000 That's basically what he's saying.

00:29:18.000 And that shows motivation for this conflict.

00:29:20.000 But one of the biggest issues that we had mentioned leading up to this interview was whether or not Tucker Carlson would ask about Evan Gershkovich, the Wall Street Journal reporter who has been in jail for just about a year.

00:29:33.000 Turns out, Tucker Carlson not only did ask Putin about this journalist, but actually requested that Putin release him into his custody as a sign of good faith to return home.

00:29:44.000 Bravo, Tucker Carlson!

00:29:47.000 Wow!

00:29:48.000 And Putin made the biggest mistake of the night.

00:29:52.000 He said no.

00:29:54.000 He did say a deal could be made.

00:29:58.000 Interestingly, he went on to say that this 30, I believe he's 32, he was caught red-handed with classified information, and he was under the direction of US agencies.

00:30:09.000 He may be a journalist, but we know who's really pulling the strings, and he was seeking secret government information, confidential classified information, which basically makes him a spy.

00:30:19.000 Now, I'll just say this.

00:30:21.000 The big narrative leading up to this interview was that Tucker Carlson was a mouthpiece for Vladimir Putin, and that Vladimir Putin was going to lie, propagandize to justify his invasion of Ukraine, and not to believe him.

00:30:35.000 The fear was that Tucker Carlson was giving a platform to a war criminal.

00:30:40.000 Imagine how bad it would have been for the Western media and the press when they were forced to report Tucker Carlson returns home with Evan Gershkovich.

00:30:51.000 Saving his life from Russian jail, Vladimir Putin agrees in a good faith effort and returns the American journalist home.

00:30:58.000 Tucker Carlson would have taken the headlines across the board.

00:31:01.000 The interview would become the biggest, bigger than it already is.

00:31:06.000 And it would put everything Putin says on a pedestal.

00:31:09.000 But Putin made that mistake.

00:31:10.000 And he said, you know, what do I get out of it?

00:31:12.000 Well, think about it.

00:31:13.000 Putin should have just said, absolutely, Mr. Carlson, I want you, because then when Tucker Carlson's plane landed, every news outlet in the country would have a reporter waiting at the airport.

00:31:23.000 There would be 10,000 cameras.

00:31:25.000 Tucker, Tucker, Tucker, what happened?

00:31:28.000 Evan, what's going on?

00:31:30.000 And everything then said in the interview would be 1,000 fold.

00:31:34.000 I think Putin's a straight-up extremely cynical political actor, however, and if he was able to get for Brittany Griner, he traded Victor Bout for that.

00:31:43.000 I'm reading it was only in December 2022, so Putin knows he could get a lot for this journalist, and I think he knows, and we're going to be seeing more of this around the world.

00:31:53.000 China's going to be doing more of this, or has been doing a lot of this, too.

00:31:56.000 We're going to be seeing a lot of this happening in Iran, too.

00:31:59.000 Kidnapping and then these rogue cynical political regimes trying to exchange those for political prisoners that are serving in the US who are actual criminals.

00:32:07.000 I don't believe this Wall Street Journal.

00:32:10.000 Evan Gershkovich, he's only I think 32, is any sort of spy.

00:32:15.000 Journalism is illegal in Russia.

00:32:20.000 I think I need to commend Tucker Carlson for even asking about this, though.

00:32:23.000 I need to give him credit, especially with all the hype surrounding this interview and leading up to it.

00:32:29.000 I don't know.

00:32:31.000 So again, right after commending Tucker, I do have to say, though, when he did interview Kanye, he did cut out certain portions.

00:32:37.000 I don't know if this is the full interview that he did conduct.

00:32:40.000 I don't know if in the next couple of weeks we're going to see a leak of other footage go down.

00:32:45.000 I wasn't able to see all of it, but from what I saw, I think Tucker did a relatively fair job.

00:32:50.000 He didn't bring up Snowden at all, did he?

00:32:53.000 No, I don't think so.

00:32:54.000 I don't think so.

00:32:55.000 That's kind of been under the radar, Snowden over in Russia.

00:32:57.000 Also, what's her name that accused Joe Biden of sexual assault?

00:33:02.000 Tara Reade.

00:33:03.000 She's in Russia.

00:33:04.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:33:05.000 She fled to Russia.

00:33:06.000 Yeah, she's there now.

00:33:07.000 She just did an interview with, God, who was it?

00:33:09.000 Was it Ivory Hacker? 0.98

00:33:10.000 Did an interview with somebody.

00:33:11.000 I can't believe Putin didn't just say, yeah.

00:33:14.000 Yeah, that would have been truly epic.

00:33:16.000 And I don't think he had considered that.

00:33:18.000 Well, he could get so much for it.

00:33:19.000 He's on the spot.

00:33:20.000 No, but I understand what you're saying.

00:33:23.000 That's true.

00:33:23.000 He got the merchant of death for a WNBA player.

00:33:27.000 I mean, it's crazy.

00:33:28.000 But just think about, I mean, in this interview, which we'll get into this in greater detail, he said that he approached Bill Clinton about joining NATO and that Clinton said, yeah, actually, yes.

00:33:38.000 But then later that night came back and said, you know what?

00:33:40.000 We talked about it.

00:33:41.000 No, it's not going to happen.

00:33:43.000 There were key narrative points Putin clearly wants to be heard.

00:33:48.000 Unless, you know, to be honest, maybe he does not care at all, one way or another, what the American people think.

00:33:53.000 I'd imagine that as the president of a country that is currently at war with the West, he would want to propagandize the West as much as possible to shatter sentiment, any favor towards funding and supporting Ukraine, which is actually just NATO war efforts.

00:34:11.000 And that's how you do it.

00:34:12.000 What value do you get from some Wall Street Journal guy?

00:34:15.000 He's one dude.

00:34:16.000 But you could amplify the power of that interview.

00:34:19.000 So, you know, I think ultimately for the United States, it's a good thing Putin misstepped here and didn't do these things.

00:34:24.000 When it comes to the propaganda, he did say in the war of propaganda, it is very hard to defeat the United States.

00:34:29.000 They control the media.

00:34:30.000 Like he knows what he's up against.

00:34:32.000 And I also think when it comes to the Wall Street Journal journalists, he probably doesn't want to show weakness.

00:34:37.000 You probably see it as weakness to give into an interview and say, like, I'll release someone just because Tucker Carlson asked.

00:34:42.000 You think so?

00:34:42.000 Oh, I disagree.

00:34:43.000 Strength.

00:34:44.000 You think it's strength for him to be like, OK, since Tucker brought it up, it'll look good for me publicly to release someone instead of doing it on his own volition?

00:34:53.000 Absolutely.

00:34:53.000 If he's like, the good faith of you coming here is enough is all I need.

00:34:56.000 You have come to me to allow me to speak to you and those who follow you to share the views that we have knowing that our countries do not agree.

00:35:04.000 For your efforts, I will release to you Evan Gershkovich.

00:35:09.000 And I'm telling you, like, every journalist would have ten photographers waiting at the airport.

00:35:13.000 As the plane is landing, all the cameras are going to be filming it from every possible angle.

00:35:18.000 It would have been the biggest story in the world.

00:35:21.000 To be fair, it probably already is the biggest story, but it would have been substantially larger.

00:35:24.000 And it's, I imagine, the worst thing for the West.

00:35:29.000 That Tucker Carlson not only shared Putin's narrative, but that Putin showed to be amicable.

00:35:38.000 Imagine coming back and saying, and Tucker saying, they are lying to you about the position of Vladimir Putin and why he's at war in Ukraine.

00:35:45.000 They are lying to you about who he is.

00:35:47.000 He has even, as a sign of good faith, released to us this reporter.

00:35:50.000 Putin's bad at what he does.

00:35:52.000 I mean, he's really good at a lot of things he does, but this was his massive opportunity.

00:35:56.000 I'm surprised he didn't say yes.

00:35:58.000 The backlash to the interview, though, is like, did no one watch the Oliver Stone stuff?

00:36:02.000 It didn't happen that long ago.

00:36:03.000 And, like, you get the same feeling.

00:36:04.000 He's a charming, intelligent guy, whether you like him or not.

00:36:07.000 Like, he's good at interviews.

00:36:08.000 I think he rehashed, too, that he is a Russian irredentist, and I know it's cliche to say at this point, but he does believe that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the biggest geopolitical strategy, and he was a part of- You mean failure?

00:36:21.000 Failure, and one of the- Well, it depends on who you ask.

00:36:25.000 So I do think he's still cynically thinking about these things.

00:36:28.000 He wants as much of Ukraine as he's going to be able to take. 0.96

00:36:31.000 And if there is a ceasefire in Ukraine, I'm sure down the line he'll be interested in taking another bite of it.

00:36:35.000 And if there's any part of NATO that collapsed with Estonia and Latvia, I'm sure he'd want to take a chunk of those too.

00:36:42.000 Because again, he sees those as a part of Russia.

00:36:45.000 All of the former USSR. 0.89

00:36:48.000 Uh, it's bad and dangerous, and I think we need to be more clear-eyed about the threat he poses.

00:36:53.000 But I can also give you one very, very obvious, reasonable reason why he did not release this person.

00:36:59.000 It's very easy for us on the surface to say, look at the political PR opportunity.

00:37:02.000 The other reality is that Evan Gershkovich actually has very serious classified information in his brain.

00:37:08.000 Oh, that's true.

00:37:09.000 That simply by speaking to the CIA would compromise the security position of Russia, so he will never be released.

00:37:13.000 Yeah, I see.

00:37:14.000 It is possible, I think, for a journalist to be over there and be a spy.

00:37:17.000 We know they're spies, they've been infiltrated over here for years, you know?

00:37:20.000 It's definitely possible.

00:37:22.000 I don't think they have free speech and a free media in Russia, though.

00:37:25.000 But it's the, you know, it's the subliminal, the liminal, and the superliminal, right?

00:37:31.000 The subliminal, the superliminal being like, An American reporter working in Moscow, just quite literally reporting whatever is going on, making sure that information comes to the American public.

00:37:39.000 That's the aunt in your face. 0.98

00:37:41.000 Then you have people who like maybe at one point worked for an industry or whatever, and they're over there and they learn things and they post on social media.

00:37:48.000 But the subliminal is like under the surface, one way or another, reporting to a US agency to deliver information.

00:37:55.000 And so, you know, when we have like Shinhwa or RT or Sputnik, these are just regular journalists.

00:38:03.000 Uh, to be fair, like Xinhua, they're reporting to the Chinese Communist Party, so like, there's no really, you know, there are, there's spies.

00:38:11.000 But, their work is above board, it's super liminal, it's like they're quite literally saying, whatever you tell me, I'm gonna share with China and the Chinese Communist Party.

00:38:18.000 But we do have spies.

00:38:20.000 Probably sneaking across the southern border right now, if we're China.

00:38:23.000 And we know what's happening.

00:38:25.000 So for this to happen, I gotta be honest, when they announced something like a reporter got arrested, my immediate thought is not, oh no, they've arrested an innocent journalist, they must be evil.

00:38:35.000 My immediate thought is like, interesting.

00:38:37.000 I need to hear more about this because Innocent until proven guilty.

00:38:41.000 I don't trust Vladimir Putin, but at the same time, I don't see him creating this kind of problem, and PR problem, unless it means something.

00:38:50.000 The arrest of Gershkovich means that people in the United States are going to be aggressive towards Russia.

00:38:56.000 And he knows that, so there's a reason.

00:38:58.000 And I'll say it again.

00:39:00.000 You know, on the surface, I'm saying it was an opportunity to release him.

00:39:03.000 I wonder if Gershkovich actually learned something so serious that he cannot be allowed to speak to the Americans.

00:39:11.000 Or to the West in general.

00:39:12.000 That would be crazy.

00:39:14.000 I mean, probably.

00:39:15.000 I like the part where Putin says, uh, Tucker asks, who blew up the Nord Stream?

00:39:19.000 And Putin goes, you did.

00:39:20.000 He goes, Tucker goes, I was busy that day.

00:39:24.000 And then Putin says, the CI didn't have an alibi.

00:39:27.000 CIA?

00:39:28.000 CIA, yeah.

00:39:29.000 CIA didn't have an alibi.

00:39:30.000 Who else could sink to the bottom of the Baltic Sea?

00:39:33.000 This is an interesting one.

00:39:34.000 This is from the same interview.

00:39:35.000 Putin slams US and Bill Clinton for deceiving Russia over NATO membership, as he trashes Biden, praises Trump, and warns there's no stopping his supersonic missile system.

00:39:46.000 This is interesting.

00:39:48.000 Putin says that Bill Clinton offered Russia a place in NATO, but was overruled by his staff.

00:39:55.000 So basically what happens is, Putin was like, look, in the 90s I meet with Bill Clinton, and there's pictures of it, he includes pictures in the interview, and I said, look, if Russia wants to join NATO, would that be possible?

00:40:08.000 And Bill Clinton said, I think so, yeah.

00:40:11.000 And then comes back later that night for dinner or whatever, I think that's what he said, and Clinton says, you know, we talked about it, it's not going to happen.

00:40:18.000 Putin said the reason was, the U.S.

00:40:20.000 applies pressure on all the NATO member states and they vote the way the U.S.

00:40:24.000 wants.

00:40:25.000 Having a nation as powerful as Russia, as large, would mean that U.S. 0.98

00:40:29.000 influence would be compromised to a certain degree within NATO.

00:40:32.000 I'll say outright, that is Vladimir Putin's propaganda.

00:40:36.000 Look, I'll tell you, first and foremost, obviously the U.S.

00:40:39.000 exerts the most influence over NATO, especially when we're footing all the bills.

00:40:43.000 But also, his reason for why he got kicked out of the club, I'm not gonna take it at 100%.

00:40:50.000 I think there's some truth to it, but he's giving you the, I'm always the good guy narrative.

00:40:56.000 Yeah, I mean, in terms of the Nord Stream stuff, did you see the... This was a while back, but the New York Times had a headline that was like, it's better that we don't get the truth.

00:41:06.000 We don't know?

00:41:07.000 Yeah, it's better that we don't know.

00:41:09.000 That headline was the creepiest one.

00:41:11.000 It's New York Times.

00:41:14.000 Oh, you're looking for the recent stuff?

00:41:15.000 Yeah.

00:41:16.000 But it's just bizarre.

00:41:19.000 I mean, Biden just point blank said that we did it, basically.

00:41:25.000 He told Tucker Carlson, Ukraine war can be over in a few weeks.

00:41:28.000 Also, there's no stopping Elon Musk.

00:41:31.000 Very interesting.

00:41:31.000 Oh.

00:41:32.000 Yeah, the Ukraine war stuff with Putin is exactly what everyone already heard.

00:41:39.000 And I gotta be honest, I was saying this, I don't think we're gonna hear things from Putin that we haven't already heard.

00:41:43.000 There were a few things, but even Putin said several times, these are not new statements.

00:41:48.000 What happened with Ukraine?

00:41:49.000 Very obvious.

00:41:51.000 Putin said, we never agreed to allow NATO to expand against our borders.

00:41:55.000 They started doing it anyway.

00:41:56.000 We kept saying, please stop, please stop.

00:41:58.000 They kept doing it.

00:41:59.000 They kept building bases and we said, please stop.

00:42:02.000 And they said, don't worry, it will.

00:42:04.000 And they kept doing it anyway.

00:42:05.000 And then he said the CIA staged a coup in Ukraine with Yanukovych, which led them to the position they're in now.

00:42:13.000 And it was interesting.

00:42:15.000 He said what happened was, this is why they don't want you to hear this interview.

00:42:19.000 This is why they didn't want Tucker to do it.

00:42:22.000 Ukraine was in a free trade agreement with Russia that allowed open border customs.

00:42:27.000 They could ship goods in and out.

00:42:29.000 When NATO and the EU began knocking on the door of Ukraine, Russia said, this will flood our market.

00:42:36.000 If Ukraine gets similar access into Europe, all of that labor and products and services will enter Ukraine and then with an open border on our side, for open customs border, we then have to deal with a flood to our market.

00:42:49.000 So we told them, if you do this, we close our border.

00:42:52.000 Yanukovych, the time president of Ukraine, had to make a decision.

00:42:55.000 How much money is to be gained or lost due to these agreements?

00:43:00.000 And we've actually talked about this quite a bit, because I was in Ukraine when this was all going down, when the Maidan protests erupted.

00:43:06.000 And the issue was that Yanukovych was trying to figure out whose side to take.

00:43:10.000 Russia was making them an offer.

00:43:11.000 European Union was making them an offer.

00:43:14.000 In these big cities like Kiev and closer to the West, they were very EU-favorite, like they wanted to be in the EU.

00:43:20.000 Because access to the EU not only meant more money, but it meant eventually Schengen zone, which is free travel.

00:43:26.000 Ukraine could then do what many people in Poland were doing.

00:43:29.000 Go to the UK and get a job. 0.94

00:43:30.000 And all of a sudden you're making more money.

00:43:32.000 Bad for people in the UK.

00:43:35.000 Didn't like what was going on with this.

00:43:36.000 But a lot of people from Eastern Europe would move to Western Europe where the economy was better.

00:43:41.000 So Yanukovych had to make the decision, and when it didn't look like he was going to make the right decision, Vladimir Putin's making the accusation, the CIA staged a coup to oust him.

00:43:50.000 People stormed his house, his mansion, started going through his belongings, like, there were vice journalists walking through his house.

00:43:57.000 Totally crazy.

00:43:57.000 He fled to Russia over this.

00:44:00.000 He says that was it like they staged a coup and now here we are and then one thing led to another the U.S.

00:44:05.000 says they're going to support the opposition against him and he's like why that means we're going to build missiles in opposition to you and then he's like we've got you know the best missiles and you can't stop us and and here we are.

00:44:15.000 I will say though for what purpose maybe Eli wants to chime in on this one is the U.S.

00:44:20.000 involved and at this point it is I would say 100% confirmed beyond a reasonable doubt to any sane human being, the United States is at war with Russia.

00:44:32.000 For what purpose should we be engaged in this?

00:44:34.000 I mean, I'm not saying you do have an opinion on it.

00:44:36.000 I'm curious your thoughts.

00:44:37.000 I don't like to call it, I don't like to say that we're at war with Russia because we don't have boots on the ground fighting Russians, except there have been reports that there are some special forces, but I still think that those are relatively ambiguous.

00:44:52.000 On paper, we're supposed to not have troops on the ground in Ukraine right now.

00:44:55.000 Right now, we are just arming the Ukrainians to be able to fight back against the Russians that invaded them.

00:45:00.000 The argument to continue supporting the Ukrainians is that if Ukraine falls, Putin will continue trying to push westward, as the Russians have been doing for centuries, and they'll eventually brush up against a NATO ally of ours, and if they do, that could trigger...

00:45:14.000 No, brush up and be ambitious enough to try to invade one of our NATO allies.

00:45:18.000 More borderland with Russia allows for more risk of that conflict escalating like that.

00:45:23.000 But NATO did that.

00:45:25.000 NATO inducting Eastern European states into NATO put NATO on Russia's border.

00:45:31.000 I think it's like, yes, in some areas.

00:45:33.000 It's also like a chicken before the egg problem because Russia says that, hey, this is what's triggering us and heightening tensions between us.

00:45:40.000 But these countries want to join because Russia is aggressive towards them.

00:45:44.000 So, like, a chicken before the egg thing.

00:45:46.000 I do think if Estonia, if the United States loses the political will to continue having NATO be a thing, if NATO ever dissolved, there's no reason for Putin not to continue to push westward.

00:46:00.000 Definitely Latvia, Estonia, and as far as he could get.

00:46:03.000 Back into World War II.

00:46:03.000 Why?

00:46:04.000 Because he's a Russian irredentist.

00:46:05.000 Because he believes that all those countries are a part of Russia.

00:46:09.000 Just to say he believes Ukraine is.

00:46:11.000 And you know, within his lifetime, within Putin's lifetime, those things were true.

00:46:15.000 That this was a part of the USSR.

00:46:18.000 That's a great point actually, because Putin literally opens the interview by saying historically, and this is a fact, Kiev was the capital of Russia.

00:46:24.000 And then after he breaks down in the first half an hour of the Tucker interview how the states broke apart and this resulted in the states of like Rus or whatever he said coalescing around Moscow thus the capital moved and Tucker even says right in the beginning Putin's position seems to be there is a historical claim to Ukraine as a part of Russia.

00:46:46.000 Yeah.

00:46:46.000 And if that's true for Ukraine, I agree.

00:46:48.000 Why would not it be true for the other Eastern European states?

00:46:50.000 I think we liberated those countries during, I mean, during the World War II, and then By forcing the dissolution of the Soviet Union, we were able to liberate the Eastern European countries from communism.

00:47:04.000 And I think that's something we should be proud of.

00:47:05.000 I'm curious what everyone thinks about this.

00:47:06.000 For me, that hour, maybe 40 minutes, of a long build through history that Putin gives, for me, leads up to this, like, denazification thing he talks about.

00:47:15.000 And, uh, is that something we buy?

00:47:17.000 Do you think he really believes in that?

00:47:19.000 Do you buy that in good faith?

00:47:20.000 When he says he's denazifying Ukraine, do you, like... I don't.

00:47:24.000 I don't know.

00:47:25.000 I know there's Azov. 0.72

00:47:26.000 That we gotta worry about.

00:47:27.000 There's clearly something going on.

00:47:28.000 And we also know he brings up the Canadian parliament applauding the Nazi with Zelensky. 0.70

00:47:33.000 I say yes, but when I buy a dilapidated old house, And then someone says, why are you buying it?

00:47:41.000 Well, I gotta get rid of the roaches that are inside of it.

00:47:43.000 Is that the real reason that I bought the house?

00:47:46.000 No.

00:47:47.000 Do I really want to get rid of the roaches?

00:47:49.000 Yes, but the real reason I bought the house is to clean it up, take it over, make a profit, and the reason I'm getting the roaches is to that benefit. 0.99

00:47:56.000 So, of course he wants to get rid of the Nazis and the Azov and those who have held those views because Soviets fought the Nazis, they were enemies, but it's just like, you know, you want the ass. 0.94

00:48:07.000 It's dangerous too, because there's no limiting principle, because I'm looking forward to hearing about the Finnish Nazis and the Nazis in Estonia and the Nazis in Latvia. 0.95

00:48:16.000 What about the Nazis here?

00:48:17.000 That's the crazy side of my brain when I hear Putin say that, and then you asking a lot about why are we at war with them?

00:48:23.000 I'm like, well, Operation Paperclip, because we've got Nazis in the government still who want to fight Russia and take it back, you know?

00:48:29.000 But cue the cutscene five years later, and it's like a bunch of Russian ships soaring into the shores of California and Florida, and we're like, oh no, it happened!

00:48:39.000 Why didn't we believe Joe Biden?

00:48:41.000 Hologram Hitler standing on the shore. 0.85

00:48:43.000 This is all a huge issue, and I mean, maybe we go back to Joe Biden, but I think the Americans really deserve competent leadership up top, one way or another.

00:48:51.000 I know we disagree geopolitically, but we deserve Somebody who at least seems like they are actively making the decision with some sort of direction in mind.

00:48:59.000 We're not only having conflicts right now in Russia, Ukraine's taking the backseat, but we just drone-striked Hezbollah's branch in Iraq. 0.54

00:49:07.000 We just killed some militia leaders there.

00:49:09.000 We had three of our service people killed in Jordan not too long ago.

00:49:13.000 Also, I believe two of our special forces were killed somewhere in the Red Sea on a mission to try to prevent more arms going to Yemen from Iran.

00:49:22.000 You said a word I don't really understand.

00:49:23.000 What is competence?

00:49:25.000 How does that work?

00:49:27.000 Is that something that the government can do?

00:49:29.000 Can instill in people?

00:49:30.000 Yeah.

00:49:30.000 I mean, like if you put a smart sounding individual in front of me instead of Joe Biden, who just seems like kind of blabbering and ridiculous, but I hate to say a Ron DeSantis like figure.

00:49:44.000 That's no endorsement.

00:49:44.000 I don't particularly like him, but Ron DeSantis generally sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

00:49:48.000 He sounds like he has some direction more than Joe Biden.

00:49:51.000 after running for president, not during his campaign.

00:49:56.000 Honestly I can't think of a worse example.

00:50:00.000 No, no, like, DeSantis is better than Biden, obviously, but in terms of a good salesman in government who actually can pitch something and make it sound believable, Obama was that.

00:50:09.000 And right now, I don't know, I couldn't, I don't know if I can name somebody.

00:50:12.000 Is there someone in politics who could really convince you of something?

00:50:14.000 Well, Vivek could.

00:50:16.000 That's true.

00:50:16.000 He's honest about stuff, at least.

00:50:17.000 Vivek could convince me of one thing, that he's a cynical politician trying to sell me something.

00:50:21.000 In my experience, like, He'll hear something that's popular.

00:50:25.000 In my opinion, as I interpret it, whatever wind direction he sees the political winds blowing, he'll hop right on board.

00:50:33.000 And what triggered me the most about that was this January 6th flip-flop.

00:50:36.000 Yes.

00:50:37.000 I'm with you on that.

00:50:38.000 I think we need to be more cautious about very cynical political actors.

00:50:41.000 I don't know if it was a full flip-flop though.

00:50:43.000 I mean, I think it's possible on January 6th to see that it was kind of like, not a cool scene, but also not think that it was an insurrection.

00:50:51.000 Like it's possible to have both of those.

00:50:53.000 He cried about it.

00:50:53.000 I think I don't, I don't, I don't believe it.

00:50:55.000 I don't trust him.

00:50:56.000 I really don't.

00:50:56.000 I think he says a lot of things I really agree with.

00:50:58.000 Uh, so I got to watch my confirmation bias.

00:51:00.000 So I'm cynical.

00:51:02.000 And I'm cynical, but like, yeah, I don't think they got, if he runs again,

00:51:05.000 if he doesn't do like a rumble podcast deal, he won't be the same as a vacant 28 that I think he is.

00:51:09.000 I think he had a good opportunity to run as like the Trump number two while Trump was.

00:51:15.000 We need a competent leader that's going to be honest with people and be like, we're creating a new world order, this liberal economic order.

00:51:21.000 The time is done of American dominance, military dominance.

00:51:24.000 We're creating something new.

00:51:25.000 So let's get on board.

00:51:26.000 The U.S.

00:51:27.000 Constitution is legit and we're going to force this thing on the world.

00:51:31.000 That's part of our bargain of, yes, we'll go along peacefully.

00:51:33.000 So we're not going to be strong, but we'll be extra strong?

00:51:35.000 You will be free!

00:51:37.000 We're going to peacefully allow for this transfer to a new global ordinance, but we're going to make sure that free speech is at the center.

00:51:43.000 I want to jump to the next story, but I do got to give a shout out to this one segment Cassandra McDonald posted. 0.60

00:51:49.000 LMAO Putin called out Tucker Carlson for wanting to join the CIA.

00:51:52.000 Let's play it.

00:51:53.000 Armed opposition committed a coup in Kiev.

00:51:57.000 What is that supposed to mean?

00:51:59.000 Who do you think you are?

00:52:01.000 I wanted to ask the then US leadership.

00:52:05.000 With the backing of whom?

00:52:09.000 With the backing of CIA, of course.

00:52:13.000 The organization you wanted to join back in the day, as I understand.

00:52:18.000 We should thank God they didn't let you in.

00:52:22.000 That caught me by surprise.

00:52:23.000 It was actually sped up and then slowed down.

00:52:25.000 Was Tucker looking at going to the CIA?

00:52:27.000 Joining the CIA?

00:52:29.000 Yes.

00:52:29.000 It is a serious organization.

00:52:30.000 I understand.

00:52:31.000 My former vis-a-vis in the sense that I served in the first Maine Directorate.

00:52:34.000 Yeah, he was KGB.

00:52:36.000 I like that part.

00:52:36.000 He's trying to be charming with Tucker.

00:52:38.000 Very good.

00:52:39.000 And shout out to Tucker Carlson for keeping that in there.

00:52:42.000 Is there any other coverage of that?

00:52:45.000 Or is he kind of like exposing that?

00:52:47.000 That he wanted to be in the CIA?

00:52:48.000 I think that's fair.

00:52:48.000 Everybody knows.

00:52:50.000 But let's jump to this.

00:52:51.000 This is big news today.

00:52:53.000 The Supreme Court heard oral arguments over the issue of Donald Trump being removed from the ballot under the 14th Amendment, Section 3.

00:53:01.000 Did you guys listen to the oral arguments?

00:53:03.000 Not all of it, but like half, yeah. 0.98

00:53:04.000 Holy crap. 0.99

00:53:06.000 The Democrat lawyer was getting spanked by all of them. 1.00

00:53:11.000 And many are suggesting it was so bad it might be a unanimous Supreme Court ruling.

00:53:16.000 No, you can't remove Donald Trump.

00:53:18.000 What the are you thinking?

00:53:20.000 It was wild hearing Katonji Brown be like, I mean, she's the leftist woke justice.

00:53:26.000 She was like, it doesn't say president.

00:53:29.000 It's not in there.

00:53:29.000 And he's like, she's getting angry.

00:53:31.000 And he's like, but we think the president's office and she's like, the president appoints officers.

00:53:35.000 It's not in there.

00:53:36.000 Gorsuch said the president commissions all officers.

00:53:39.000 It's in the constitution.

00:53:40.000 How is he an officer himself?

00:53:42.000 He didn't appoint himself.

00:53:44.000 Yo, it was it was absolutely wild.

00:53:47.000 And basically, The Supreme Court seems poised to reject attempts to kick off Donald Trump.

00:53:59.000 A definitive ruling for Trump, the leading Republican candidate for president, would largely end efforts in Colorado, Maine, and elsewhere to prevent his name from appearing on the ballot.

00:54:06.000 The justices could act quickly, possibly by Super Tuesday.

00:54:09.000 Conservative and liberal justices alike questioned during arguments Thursday whether Trump can be disqualified from being president again because of his efforts to undo the 2020 election.

00:54:18.000 Their main concern was whether Congress must act before states can invoke a constitutional provision that was adopted after the Civil War to prevent former officeholders who engaged in insurrection from holding office again.

00:54:29.000 There also were questions about whether the president is covered by the provision.

00:54:33.000 Now here's what's interesting.

00:54:35.000 There's a lot of things that were brought up in this hearing the arguments that I didn't know.

00:54:39.000 So, uh, under the United States is a statement in the 14th Amendment that, you know, you can't hold office under the United States or something like that.

00:54:47.000 And Trump's lawyers argued the presidency is not an office under the United States or an officer under the United States.

00:54:53.000 Senators are officers of the Senate.

00:54:56.000 And the reason why that matters is because the impeachment clause and the emoluments clause, that if the Supreme Court were to determine that the presidency was covered by this, it would also mean The President is able to enrich himself through the Office of the Presidency being exempt from the Emoluments Clause.

00:55:11.000 So the lawyer is like, you need to understand what this statement means and your ruling pertains to many other areas of the Constitution.

00:55:18.000 So more importantly...

00:55:20.000 The president is not covered in the 14th Amendment.

00:55:23.000 And one thing Trump's lawyer said was, don't you think they would have explicitly put the president in there if they thought it was the most pressing office to bar for an insurrectionist?

00:55:35.000 I think my argument as to why the framers of the 14th did not do that is really simple.

00:55:40.000 The reason why you can't be a senator or congressman or hold any other office or be an appointed officer is because the other states, the North, did not have say in those appointments or positions or elections.

00:55:51.000 So, if you are South Carolina, Civil War ends, then South Carolina says, okay, this guy was an insurrectionist who fought against the United States, let's send him to D.C.

00:56:01.000 The North says, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, no, no, no, we say no to that.

00:56:04.000 But we can't vote on that, so we're laying it out in an amendment to the Constitution to outright say, don't do that.

00:56:10.000 Because we have no say.

00:56:12.000 Now, as for the presidency, well, we get to vote on that.

00:56:15.000 So we don't need to lock out someone from being president because we can choose through the electoral college and through our system whether or not the president will be an insurrectionist.

00:56:23.000 In fact, the 14th Amendment actually says Congress can, by two-thirds vote, override this restriction.

00:56:29.000 So, it's actually really simple.

00:56:32.000 If New York gets a vote in who is being sent to the federal government, then they're fine with it.

00:56:38.000 If they don't, you are barred.

00:56:40.000 Therefore, it's actually really simple.

00:56:42.000 The other issue, oh man, this was wild.

00:56:44.000 Gorsuch was just steamrolling the Democrats.

00:56:48.000 It was a spanking, dude. 1.00

00:56:49.000 It was an absolute spanking. 1.00

00:56:51.000 This guy was like, as soon as an officeholder commits insurrection, they're instantly disqualified.

00:56:58.000 And so he's like, okay, what would compel them A lesser officer of the United States to follow the orders of this person.

00:57:06.000 He had no answer.

00:57:07.000 None whatsoever.

00:57:08.000 Imagine what that means.

00:57:10.000 The Democrats are arguing that on January 6, Donald Trump waged insurrection against the United States and for the next 14 days should not have been president and no one should have followed his orders.

00:57:21.000 So what would happen in a circumstance where their view would be upheld?

00:57:27.000 Someone goes, this was actually asked, I think Alito may have asked this, so when Joe Biden released the funds to Iran he waged insurrection against the United States and now nobody should follow his orders ever again.

00:57:39.000 That's what they're saying.

00:57:41.000 If the Democrats have their way, it is instant civil war.

00:57:46.000 I don't know about civil war, but I mean it.

00:57:47.000 The idea would be, the moment any actor in the government believes within their own person that a president engaged in an insurrection against the United States, they are duty-bound constitutionally to defy all orders, legal or otherwise, because they have disqualified themselves from office. 0.98

00:58:03.000 That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. 0.97

00:58:05.000 That's the Democrat position on why Trump should be removed. 1.00

00:58:08.000 And the justices were like, are you insane?

00:58:11.000 And not literally saying that, but Gorsuch was just like, if you don't have an answer, that's fine. 0.91

00:58:16.000 And the guy was muttering and didn't have anything to say to it.

00:58:18.000 Yeah, I'm no legal expert, so I won't speak to the legalese involved here.

00:58:23.000 But the strategy among some Democrats to try to disqualify Trump through legal means

00:58:29.000 might actually be a threat to democracy.

00:58:32.000 And if Trump supporters were as threatening and violent as they often imply, then I think this would be a more dangerous trigger moment.

00:58:39.000 For somebody who is leading, is the presumptive Republican nominee, former president at this point, just something extremely dangerous over something as ambiguous as trying to call what happened on January 6th an insurrection.

00:58:51.000 Completely outrageous, dangerous, and I mean, I hate to adopt their language, but an actual threat to democracy as people in our country understand it.

00:58:59.000 That was the one thing I was worried about while I was listening to it.

00:59:01.000 I think it was about an hour in, I was like, Are we not going to talk about what insurrection means?

00:59:06.000 Are we not going to define that word?

00:59:07.000 They're calling out other words.

00:59:08.000 Cause I'm like the death of language, right?

00:59:10.000 We're all just going to adopt insurrection now in this argument.

00:59:13.000 But then at a certain point, I think it was after an hour, they were like, well, insurrection is a organized, violent effort.

00:59:19.000 And then it might've been Jackson who was like, well, there's a chaotic one could also do it.

00:59:22.000 Maybe it was someone else.

00:59:23.000 And then he goes, it's a riot.

00:59:25.000 It's a riot.

00:59:25.000 Right.

00:59:26.000 So they did break it down a little bit.

00:59:27.000 I'm done playing this game. 0.91

00:59:29.000 You are mentally deficient if you think January 6th was an insurrection. 0.97

00:59:34.000 Insurrection referred to civil war, taking up arms, standing on a borderline, and shooting at union officers. 0.99

00:59:41.000 Okay?

00:59:42.000 They're not talking about a bunch of unarmed people knocking over barricades and breaking windows.

00:59:49.000 It's just, I'm done with the manipulation.

00:59:51.000 I remember everyone in the immediate aftermath of J6 happening saying, well, Trump used the word fight.

00:59:59.000 I'm like, so has every other president or candidate ever.

01:00:02.000 I thought of Teddy Roosevelt, the man in the arena.

01:00:04.000 He talks about having blood on your face when doing politics.

01:00:08.000 People use these words.

01:00:08.000 You're just using it as, you know, evidence of your narrative.

01:00:12.000 The fear-mongering of trying to dress this up is something that it wasn't, is evident.

01:00:17.000 There was none of the actual political machinery of some sort of coup or insurrection happening in the background.

01:00:22.000 We actually spoke to the acting Secretary of Defense on this show.

01:00:26.000 I think it was a little bit over a year ago, who said obviously none of that was happening in the background.

01:00:31.000 All of these people would have been necessary to do any sort of coup.

01:00:34.000 Obviously none of that happened.

01:00:35.000 None of his cabinet was on board.

01:00:37.000 Mike Pence didn't try to pull anything.

01:00:39.000 Although Trump might have tried to get him to, Pence didn't.

01:00:43.000 There was no other electors found in Georgia or what have you.

01:00:47.000 Now that we're talking about actual Civil War, should we bring up our seventh guest?

01:00:52.000 Oh yeah, the flag.

01:00:53.000 Should I bring it over?

01:00:55.000 Sure, I guess.

01:00:56.000 This thing's gonna blow your minds.

01:00:57.000 Seventh Civil War flag?

01:01:00.000 We have an actual Civil War flag.

01:01:02.000 It is gigantic too.

01:01:04.000 Don't drop it on Bogus.

01:01:05.000 Bogus is sleeping on the bubble wrap.

01:01:07.000 I like that it's in a coffin.

01:01:09.000 Yeah, laid to rest.

01:01:10.000 That's a good metaphor for the country right now.

01:01:13.000 It's in the shot as much as we can get it right now.

01:01:18.000 This is an actual flag, 13-star U.S.

01:01:23.000 naval flag used in the Civil War in battle.

01:01:26.000 So this is from Terrence and Sabina Ducat, who are investors in Scanner.

01:01:34.000 And so this is a 13-star U.S.

01:01:37.000 naval flag for the Brig Rival, likely an English blockade runner captured during the Civil War.

01:01:44.000 So it was on a ship.

01:01:45.000 Wow.

01:01:46.000 And what's the value of it?

01:01:48.000 A lot.

01:01:49.000 I don't know if we need to say a number, but it's a historical relic.

01:01:55.000 So can I wear it?

01:01:57.000 We're gonna have to mount it and hopefully we can get in the new studio.

01:01:57.000 Technically.

01:02:00.000 It's shot to shit. 1.00

01:02:01.000 It might be too big. 0.99

01:02:02.000 It might be, but maybe we can have it vertical.

01:02:06.000 It's because I think it would touch the ground.

01:02:09.000 I want to do that.

01:02:09.000 5 by 11.

01:02:10.000 5 feet by 11 feet?

01:02:12.000 5 by 11?

01:02:12.000 5 by 11.

01:02:13.000 5 by 11.

01:02:13.000 That's not so bad.

01:02:14.000 It can't go vertical though, but 11 feet wide.

01:02:17.000 Gotta make it happen.

01:02:19.000 You could drip it from the wall.

01:02:20.000 I think we could.

01:02:21.000 No, no, no.

01:02:21.000 Outside the... I wouldn't want... It would be great to be in the studio.

01:02:26.000 So professionally mounted... Do we gotta frame it?

01:02:29.000 No, it just needs to be sewn onto a mounting fabric and then it can be hung.

01:02:36.000 I think we should frame it.

01:02:37.000 Sure.

01:02:38.000 I think we should give it a glass case.

01:02:39.000 Keep it safe.

01:02:40.000 That would be better, probably.

01:02:41.000 Non-reflective, so it looks good on camera.

01:02:43.000 Let's see if we can figure out how to get a custom, large glass frame.

01:02:46.000 It's gonna be very expensive to make a 5x11 glass frame, but absolutely must be done for something as incredible as this.

01:02:53.000 Thank you, Terrence.

01:02:54.000 And then we can have it in the new studio, mounted on the wall.

01:02:56.000 You said it's been shot up, too?

01:02:58.000 This flag took bullets?

01:02:59.000 So, check out the, uh... I don't know if you can zoom in on that, Serge?

01:03:03.000 No.

01:03:04.000 No.

01:03:04.000 We do not have that.

01:03:05.000 It's riddled with bullet holes.

01:03:08.000 Or, you know, I don't know necessarily that they're bullet holes.

01:03:10.000 It has holes all throughout.

01:03:12.000 170 year old flag.

01:03:13.000 Focus.

01:03:14.000 It's a beautiful flag.

01:03:15.000 Shout out, American flag.

01:03:17.000 It smells good.

01:03:19.000 It smells like probably the museum that it had been kept in.

01:03:21.000 I'm not sure.

01:03:22.000 I felt like a soldier driving down here.

01:03:24.000 Dude, it's like, it's like falling.

01:03:26.000 It's almost like falling apart when you touch it.

01:03:29.000 But it's worth touching.

01:03:30.000 Get your fingers on it before it gets framed if you haven't yet.

01:03:32.000 I would not recommend touching it.

01:03:34.000 Just finger it very lightly.

01:03:36.000 One little dip.

01:03:37.000 Put your index finger on there and understand what they want to do.

01:03:40.000 Respect it.

01:03:41.000 Treat it properly.

01:03:42.000 Don't finger the flag.

01:03:43.000 Don't finger the flag, ladies and gentlemen.

01:03:46.000 God, that thing's beautiful, man.

01:03:48.000 Who was it that donated that?

01:03:48.000 It is amazing.

01:03:50.000 It's on loan to Timcast from Terrence Komen, who is an investor of Scanner.

01:03:58.000 Thank you.

01:03:59.000 Terrence, nice job.

01:04:01.000 If they're okay with us getting a custom-made glass frame for it.

01:04:03.000 Oh yeah, that's what they would love.

01:04:04.000 Okay, then perfect, we'll do it.

01:04:05.000 I imagine that would be like a hefty penny, but we'll figure it out.

01:04:08.000 Yeah, it'll be a few k at least.

01:04:09.000 Yeah, done.

01:04:11.000 And we could maybe get a little card that says, like, on loan from Terrence and then, like, a link to their thing or something, you know, whatever.

01:04:11.000 No question.

01:04:18.000 That's really cool, man.

01:04:19.000 Wow, that's things.

01:04:19.000 That's amazing.

01:04:20.000 So what was the Civil War about again?

01:04:22.000 Why did we fight the Civil War?

01:04:23.000 Some dudes wanted, like, iron or something.

01:04:25.000 Well, according to Nikki Haley, it was because states wanted their freedom and the government was just not okay with that.

01:04:29.000 What was the Civil War about?

01:04:30.000 Was it money?

01:04:31.000 Cotton?

01:04:32.000 Controlling the economics of the South?

01:04:35.000 It was slavery.

01:04:37.000 British, British-Virginia trade?

01:04:39.000 Depends on how you ask the question.

01:04:41.000 Why was the Civil War fought is a very different question from what caused the Civil War.

01:04:47.000 What caused the Civil War?

01:04:49.000 Slavery, the expansion of slavery, and the contention between free states and slave states, which had resulted in bleeding Kansas, widespread fighting that had been happening predominantly in the Kansas Territory, but also in other parts of the country, and ultimately led to an election where Abraham Lincoln didn't receive a single vote in seven, I believe, seven states.

01:05:07.000 Or actually, I don't think he received a single vote in any of the states that eventually went on to secede, so I think it was eleven.

01:05:12.000 But why did they fight?

01:05:14.000 The South fought because they were invaded.

01:05:16.000 Shelby Foote's my favorite Civil War writer.

01:05:16.000 Yeah.

01:05:19.000 And he said that the North thought they were fighting the Civil War and the South thought they were fighting the second, like, American Revolution.

01:05:25.000 Which book?

01:05:26.000 Well, I think it's called The Civil War.

01:05:27.000 It's a whole series that I think he spent maybe 20 years writing.

01:05:32.000 He wrote fiction about the Civil War and also nonfiction.

01:05:33.000 And you should look up his interviews.

01:05:35.000 He's no longer with us, but an amazing writer.

01:05:37.000 I know they call it the War of Northern Aggression.

01:05:39.000 A lot of people in the South refer to it as the War of Northern Aggression.

01:05:41.000 In the Putin interview, he said that in Russia they refer to World War II as the Great Patriotic War.

01:05:46.000 Um, I think, okay.

01:05:48.000 It feels a little bit different.

01:05:49.000 Like, I don't want people in the South being taught that it's a war of northern aggression because that's not... Well, what Shelby Foote meant was that there were people in the South who might have not had slaves and they just saw, like, marauders in their homes burning things down, like, with the total war from Sherman.

01:06:05.000 Yeah, but they were fighting for the right for people to live.

01:06:08.000 But they were fighting to survive Sherman doing, you know, total war.

01:06:13.000 But that's not saying everyone in the South, but there were definitely people like I spent a year in Georgia where Sherman kind of went through, and sometimes it wasn't Sherman, it was people pretending to be with Sherman to go maraud and take over farmland.

01:06:25.000 And those people started fighting to save themselves.

01:06:27.000 There's a lot of people in the chat who are saying it was a state's rights versus federal issue.

01:06:31.000 I strongly recommend you guys Like, read some academic papers and read the letters from many of the generals.

01:06:38.000 I had a great time.

01:06:39.000 Went to Jackson's... I think I went to two of his houses.

01:06:43.000 One of them was crazy. 0.64

01:06:44.000 They had a musket in the kitchen.

01:06:45.000 This is what I love about Second Amendment.

01:06:46.000 They have a musket in the kitchen for shooting critters.

01:06:49.000 So, like, anyone could just grab it off the wall, open the back door, and then wait for a rabbit or something, or a beaver, or who knows, and just bang!

01:06:56.000 A gopher.

01:06:57.000 And then you throw it in the stew!

01:06:58.000 And you're just like, it came in my backyard, it is mine!

01:07:01.000 And the gun was just there.

01:07:02.000 But yeah, we went to their houses, I read their letters, learned about their wives.

01:07:07.000 And certainly it is a very complicated issue with many different views.

01:07:11.000 But while the general view most people would give you is it was fought over slavery, it absolutely was not fought over slavery.

01:07:18.000 It was caused by the issue of slavery which, like, bleeding Kansas existed.

01:07:23.000 Before there was a question of states' rights, people were murdering each other in the Kansas Territory.

01:07:28.000 John Brown was blasting people in the face.

01:07:31.000 Hans Christian was even an American and he came here as an abolitionist.

01:07:36.000 Slavery was dissolving in other parts of the world as an institution.

01:07:41.000 And so, it could not be an issue of states' rights when Bleeding Kansas was happening seven years leading up to the Civil War.

01:07:50.000 Some argue Bleeding Kansas actually is the Civil War, and we just view the Civil War as, like, because it was when the government actually became actively involved.

01:08:00.000 But Bleeding Kansas, gnarly!

01:08:01.000 Seven years of bloody conflict and bloodshed.

01:08:04.000 Abolitionists and pro-slavery forces were fighting in various territories over whether or not they would be slave states or free states.

01:08:10.000 The slave-holding states believed that with Abraham Lincoln's election, he would not only stop the expansion of slavery, he would get rid of it.

01:08:18.000 And I believe Lincoln's position was, no, no, you can keep it, we just won't have it in any new territories.

01:08:23.000 So they were just like, nah, we're not going anywhere near anybody who opposes this.

01:08:26.000 There were four candidates running.

01:08:28.000 One guy, I love this, he was just like, I'm not gonna talk about slavery at all!

01:08:32.000 And so nobody cared for him.

01:08:34.000 One guy was like, more slavery.

01:08:35.000 One guy was like, completely get rid of slavery.

01:08:38.000 Abraham Lincoln was supposedly like the compromise candidate, where he was saying, you can keep it, but no more.

01:08:45.000 As soon as he got elected, seven states said, this is it, we're going to secede.

01:08:48.000 Before he even got inaugurated, the session started.

01:08:51.000 And that's, so what ends up in the fighting over the Civil War is, the North invaded the South.

01:08:57.000 Yeah, and I don't want to be an apologist for war, but I just want to give nuance to both sides of that war, and I'm talking about Georgia in particular.

01:09:06.000 With the Confederates, these were people whose fathers were invaded by Britain and their houses were burnt down, not necessarily slaveholders.

01:09:14.000 And then they saw it as a second, like, American Revolution because then they were invaded by... they saw the North as an invasion.

01:09:21.000 But then, you know, there's people on the North in Sherman's army during the March of the Sea who, you know, weren't also angels.

01:09:28.000 They were killing freed slaves who were following them just because they didn't want to be followed anymore.

01:09:33.000 So that's not to say every person who fought in the Confederacy owned slaves or... 5% of the U.S.

01:09:40.000 Yeah, but they were fighting on behalf of a government who was fighting for the ability for you to still have them.

01:09:40.000 population.

01:09:46.000 I would still say not always.

01:09:48.000 And their constitution.

01:09:50.000 Yeah, how they interpreted it.

01:09:52.000 So although they're defending the right to, you know, so not slave owners directly, but still defending that. 0.95

01:09:58.000 And I'm sure they were propagandized in different ways.

01:10:02.000 different things. No, almost no. And I read this in, I watched this in several documentaries,

01:10:09.000 but I read this in a couple of different academic papers.

01:10:11.000 The idea is it's reasonable to assess that no Confederate soldier fought for the right to own slaves

01:10:16.000 as none of them did. It was only a very small portion of wealthy plantation and factory owners who

01:10:22.000 did. The soldiers were not mobilized under the view that slavery must be defended. They were

01:10:26.000 mobilized under the view that Union soldiers were rampaging through their state and threatening

01:10:31.000 their families. If it were the issue that the Union did not invade, it is likely that they would

01:10:37.000 not have been able to mobilize a military force to fight the Union because the average young

01:10:44.000 man at the time was not going to go to war to defend some rich guy's slaves. Yeah.

01:10:49.000 Well, if the South doesn't secede, then the North doesn't invade, and we wouldn't let any part of the country secede right now.

01:10:55.000 Right, but this is my point.

01:10:57.000 The fighting of the war was over for the North, the secession of the South, and whether they had the right to do it.

01:11:01.000 So fair point to those saying it was states' rights to secede versus the federal, versus the Union, but that is why the North was fighting.

01:11:08.000 You have no right to secede.

01:11:09.000 Ulysses S. Grant said, you have a right to try.

01:11:12.000 But if you lose, we own you, basically.

01:11:15.000 And it's a brilliant assessment of the issue pertaining to the revolution and how we won, and the Civil War and how they lost.

01:11:21.000 He was basically saying, the Americans, the colonists at the time, this is 80 years prior, so not even that long for them, it's kind of wild, right?

01:11:29.000 He's like, they decided they shouldn't be ruled by the crown, they fought, they won, congratulations.

01:11:34.000 The Confederates feel like they shouldn't be a part of the Union anymore, they fought, they lost, we own it.

01:11:38.000 That's who you're being ruled by now.

01:11:40.000 But so, I think it's important to break down this distinction because when everyone says, what was the cause of the Civil War?

01:11:47.000 I think slavery is an absolutely fair assessment. 0.92

01:11:49.000 Like this led to the great contention in politics.

01:11:52.000 Why was the Civil War fought, is an entirely different question.

01:11:55.000 The Union demanded the right to the states.

01:11:58.000 The Southern states said no.

01:12:00.000 And why, and that's, actually I would say, why was there, why did the Civil War begin is states rights versus uh the federal issue and why was the war fought and that is an invasion from the north like plain plain and simple uh if if the union forces decided to let the south secede there's no war none secession is not war so what started this what started the war the northern invasion like i mean there you go they decided like you do not have a right to secede

01:12:29.000 So, Mr. Oppmann, it sort of begs the question, did you bring this Union Jack flag to this former Confederate state?

01:12:35.000 That is not a Union Jack.

01:12:37.000 The Union Jack is the British flag.

01:12:39.000 What was the... just the Union flag?

01:12:41.000 The Yankee flag?

01:12:43.000 The Yankee flag.

01:12:43.000 Yeah, did you bring this Yankee flag to this former Confederate state just to mog on them a bit?

01:12:47.000 I think West Virginia was the first state to leave the Confederacy.

01:12:50.000 I could be wrong, I can look it up.

01:12:52.000 I believe that West Virginia is like... 0.88

01:12:57.000 Statehood done dirty, man.

01:12:58.000 That's right.

01:12:59.000 Did you also know, tidbit, uh, West Virginia's original proposed name was Kanawha.

01:13:03.000 Oh, that's cool.

01:13:04.000 Sounds like a Native American word.

01:13:04.000 Yeah, Kanawha River, I believe it is, just like Illinois or, um... Ohio.

01:13:08.000 You know, right, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:10.000 I believe, like, uh, most of the Midwestern states are, right?

01:13:14.000 What do you mean, uh, done dirty?

01:13:15.000 What do you mean?

01:13:16.000 West Virginia was formed through a vote.

01:13:19.000 Should we break away from Virginia and stay with the Union?

01:13:24.000 It's really easy to win a loyalist vote when the young men are forced to go off and fight a war for Virginia to defend the state.

01:13:32.000 And once all of the men had left to fight in the war, those that remained voted to fracture off the state from Virginia and join the Union.

01:13:40.000 And when the young men returned after the war and were like, this is Virginia, the Supreme Court ruled, no it's not.

01:13:47.000 Virginia, it's actually a big Supreme Court case that happened just after the Civil War.

01:13:54.000 Virginia argued that the war is over.

01:13:55.000 Virginia must be retained as whole, and they said, nope.

01:14:00.000 So it's pretty wild to think.

01:14:01.000 Virginia would have been huge. 1.00

01:14:03.000 It was huge.

01:14:04.000 It was massive.

01:14:05.000 West Virginia's huge, and Virginia huge on their own.

01:14:06.000 I'm glad it happened.

01:14:08.000 Oh, me too.

01:14:08.000 I mean, it's done dirty, but West Virginia's based, and Virginia is not so based.

01:14:12.000 I love it here.

01:14:13.000 We need more states.

01:14:13.000 The more the merrier.

01:14:16.000 It is fascinating to be here.

01:14:17.000 Like guys, if you come out here, you walk 10 feet and there's like a placard with a picture talking about the Civil War and what happened.

01:14:25.000 We drive up the road like 10 miles and Antietam is right here.

01:14:29.000 And the cannons are there memorialized and there's like a bunch of different plaques explaining what happened.

01:14:35.000 Man, it's crazy.

01:14:36.000 Gettysburg's 40 minutes away.

01:14:38.000 I know a local gravedigger, and he's always just like, yeah, I go to church with him.

01:14:41.000 And he's like, I found more Civil War bones.

01:14:44.000 You know, he's always finding from the battlefield surgeries.

01:14:46.000 We got a Civil War bayonet.

01:14:47.000 Oh, nice.

01:14:48.000 And Shane, you're convinced on the ghosts.

01:14:50.000 On the ghosts?

01:14:50.000 Well, I think landscapes can be haunted by mass trauma.

01:14:53.000 Yeah.

01:14:54.000 Yeah, they call that phantom DNA.

01:14:56.000 Yeah, it's in there.

01:14:56.000 The photons bind to DNA, and then when the DNA is removed, the photons stay there for a while.

01:15:01.000 I don't know about the photons, but think of all the blood spilled on this land.

01:15:04.000 I mean, in all these towns near where we're at, they were all turned into hospitals to saw limbs off men, right?

01:15:11.000 There's churches where, like, yeah, the wood here is still stained from blood, you know?

01:15:15.000 And what book can we read about that?

01:15:16.000 Oh, that's Inverted World Volume 2.

01:15:17.000 Thank you.

01:15:18.000 Isn't it wild that, like, if they just knew to pour whiskey on some guys, like, if they Take the bullet out, pour water on it, and then pour whiskey into it, you might be okay.

01:15:29.000 Here's some leeches and some whiskey.

01:15:31.000 But they would drink the whiskey while getting the amputation, like, bro, just clean it.

01:15:35.000 They didn't know, it's wild.

01:15:37.000 Wash your hands was what, like 1907 or something?

01:15:40.000 People didn't wash their, and that's like, I love the story of when they were discovering germs and the doctors were like, perhaps you should wash.

01:15:45.000 It was because women were dying in childbirth or whatever. 0.99

01:15:47.000 And he was like, maybe if we wash our hands before, that's crazy, what are you talking about?

01:15:52.000 Like and then they did and then like women started dying less I'm I was watching it might be the Kings and Generals YouTube channel There's a few channels where they do like historical battle document nice and one of its Civil War.

01:16:05.000 I don't No, no, it's like like um uh like a map and it'll show like the general's

01:16:09.000 faces as the troops move around on the map and they'll tell you like from the south stonewall

01:16:13.000 jackson came in and split his troops off general this guy and this guy but shermet or whoever

01:16:18.000 and it it became very real like things started to seem like they were my friends and i was picturing

01:16:23.000 them outside running through these hills and it's like just with bayonets

01:16:28.000 That's something I walked away from that inverted world book that I wrote when I was in Georgia is like even those battles are so contested amongst historians.

01:16:35.000 I saw two men almost get into a fistfight in a historic like museum because they were disagreeing on whether or not confederates and I'm sorry loyalists.

01:16:43.000 This is a revolution.

01:16:44.000 We're on horses or not and they got so mad and they couldn't even agree on that and you look at all these documents.

01:16:48.000 They don't even get it.

01:16:49.000 Gettysburg is awesome.

01:16:51.000 Oh, I really recommend anybody ever get a chance because they got awesome food.

01:16:54.000 They've got chocolate shops.

01:16:55.000 They got souvenirs everywhere.

01:16:56.000 You can buy cannonballs.

01:16:58.000 There's so much like Civil War refuse still everywhere to be found.

01:17:03.000 It's kind of nuts.

01:17:04.000 And then when we drove up there, because it's like seriously 40 minutes away, there's like just reenactors everywhere.

01:17:10.000 Like every road you're driving down, there's like guys in like costume.

01:17:14.000 That's kind of weird.

01:17:15.000 I don't understand why you'd want to do that, but I love the history.

01:17:19.000 I mean, I grew up in West Point.

01:17:20.000 I grew up around reenactors.

01:17:21.000 Dude, we went to... It's really crazy.

01:17:25.000 I can't remember where we were.

01:17:26.000 I think, were you with us when we went to that aquarium?

01:17:29.000 And we watched the story of the ironclad?

01:17:29.000 Yeah.

01:17:32.000 Yes.

01:17:33.000 That was awesome.

01:17:34.000 North Carolina or something?

01:17:35.000 Yeah.

01:17:36.000 And I don't remember exactly where it was, but they were talking... Yeah, I think it was North Carolina.

01:17:39.000 The ironclad and its invention was like...

01:17:42.000 In saying the Confederates were going house to house and confiscating farm tools to make iron for ironclads.

01:17:50.000 Because these ironclads were like basically indestructible.

01:17:54.000 steam ships that could go up up river and down river and could deflect cannon fire.

01:18:00.000 And there's a crazy story where, and the people listening might know the story better than

01:18:03.000 me, we were watching this video that was like, you know, show and there was like sounds and

01:18:08.000 you can see the lights.

01:18:09.000 It was like an aquarium and they talked about it.

01:18:11.000 I guess it's like an artificial reef or something.

01:18:13.000 But anyway, this union guy, as their ship is approaching the ironclad and they're fighting,

01:18:17.000 it's having no effect.

01:18:19.000 He just like instructs them to keep firing and then runs up.

01:18:22.000 One didn't do it and then he like pulls the cord over to the cannon and someone yells

01:18:26.000 no the cannonball hits the ironclad bounces in the air, lands back on the ship, blowing

01:18:32.000 Whoa.

01:18:33.000 Yeah, dude, the ironclads, that was amazing, dude, war is nuts.

01:18:36.000 Dude, the Union was, they call them Sherman neckties, you guys know about those?

01:18:40.000 They were to stop the flow of, you know, food and ammo.

01:18:43.000 On the railroads, they would burn the train tracks and then wrap them off the ground and around trees.

01:18:48.000 Those are called Sherman neckties.

01:18:50.000 Whoa, like they would take the metal after heating them up so much so they could then move them.

01:18:55.000 Wow.

01:18:56.000 So the trains would just go off and crash?

01:18:58.000 Yeah, they would stop. 0.98

01:18:59.000 Dude, Sherman was just like a psychopath.

01:19:02.000 Sherman was our first atom bomb. 0.98

01:19:05.000 We sent him to the South to blow it up. 0.95

01:19:07.000 And he didn't care. 0.99

01:19:08.000 He killed freed slaves. 0.58

01:19:08.000 He didn't care. 0.58

01:19:10.000 He was a nut. 1.00

01:19:11.000 He was nuts. 1.00

01:19:11.000 He was torching farms. 1.00

01:19:12.000 He was just... I think it was... It's not the first, but for like American history, it is the advent of scorched earth policy.

01:19:18.000 Yeah, and he learned it at West Point, where all the generals in the Civil War were.

01:19:21.000 He was like, I'm going to show you how it's really done.

01:19:23.000 William Tecumseh Sherman.

01:19:24.000 William Tecumseh Sherman.

01:19:25.000 They named the tank after him, the Sherman Tank.

01:19:27.000 That's right.

01:19:27.000 For the record, that channel is called History Marsh, M-A-R-C-H-E.

01:19:31.000 The video I was looking at was called Chancellorsville.

01:19:33.000 I don't know if you guys know Chancellorsville.

01:19:35.000 I've never been there before.

01:19:36.000 Robert E. Lee's greatest battle.

01:19:38.000 Robert E. Lee, apparently, was just a brilliant, brilliant guy fighting for his own state of Virginia.

01:19:43.000 He also went to West Point.

01:19:44.000 He was like friends with a lot of the other generals in the Union.

01:19:47.000 They knew each other and stuff.

01:19:49.000 And they fought together in what?

01:19:50.000 The Mexican-American War?

01:19:51.000 I believe, yeah.

01:19:52.000 Yeah, they're all boys.

01:19:53.000 I mean, Jefferson Davis went to West Point.

01:19:55.000 All of them.

01:19:56.000 Except for Lincoln.

01:19:57.000 Yeah, he was just some outsider.

01:19:59.000 He was a boxer in Illinois, right?

01:20:01.000 Uh, boxer, lawyer.

01:20:02.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:20:03.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:20:03.000 Tall, lanky guy. 1.00

01:20:04.000 Yep. 0.98

01:20:05.000 And then, uh, he was not- he was a staunch racist.

01:20:08.000 Uh, everyone was. 0.99

01:20:09.000 He wanted to send all black people back. 0.99

01:20:11.000 To Liberia. 0.99

01:20:12.000 Was it Liberia?

01:20:13.000 I'm pretty sure that's what they did, right?

01:20:15.000 There are many stories of brothers fighting against each other.

01:20:19.000 Oh, yeah.

01:20:19.000 Yeah.

01:20:21.000 But then this is the beautiful thing.

01:20:22.000 I mean, West Point, they started the Association of Grads, I believe that's what it's called, after the war to be like, all right, we all fought and killed each other, but let's be brothers again.

01:20:33.000 It's pretty amazing.

01:20:35.000 So Liberia, which is in West Africa, started in the 19th century, between 1822 and 1861, 15,000 freed and free-born African-Americans, along with 3,198 Afro-Caribbeans, relocated to Liberia, gradually developing an Americo-Liberian identity.

01:20:52.000 The settlers carried their culture and tradition with them.

01:20:55.000 Liberia declared independence, uh, July 26, 1847, which the U.S.

01:20:59.000 did not recognize until 1862.

01:21:01.000 But I believe they also had, like, um, Americanized, like, uh, Constitution and policy and things like that.

01:21:06.000 I think they had, like, a Southern culture, too, where they had slaves and slave owners, too, if I'm not mistaken.

01:21:11.000 Yeah, they had...

01:21:11.000 They did.

01:21:13.000 They adopted what the plantation system in the South and then just projected it onto their new homes.

01:21:19.000 We like this human slavery thing that's been going on since the beginning of time. 0.77

01:21:23.000 No, it's really effed up because it was really also all they knew.

01:21:27.000 It was the only economic system they knew.

01:21:29.000 They were former, they were emancipated slaves.

01:21:34.000 I don't know, they did the evil that was done unto them unto others.

01:21:37.000 But you know what people need to understand too?

01:21:39.000 A lot of people don't realize this.

01:21:42.000 The North was super racist.

01:21:44.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:21:44.000 Just abject racism. 0.95

01:21:45.000 And you know how it's really easy to understand?

01:21:48.000 Segregation continued in all of these places until the end of the 50s or whatever, until the Civil Rights Act even, like 60s.

01:21:55.000 So this idea that these abolitionists were like, we oppose racism, it's like, no, they were They were very racist.

01:21:55.000 60s, yeah.

01:22:01.000 Well, I'm sure the John Brown types were not segregationists, but... You know what people also don't understand, too?

01:22:06.000 Like, people really need to read this.

01:22:08.000 There were slaves that got paid.

01:22:10.000 One of the things that happens is everybody sees these movies and these stories where it's a plantation where a guy's being beaten, which happened, it's horrifying, it's really bad, and it was a lot of slavery.

01:22:19.000 But there were also slaves who worked in homes, there were slaves who worked in shops, and there were slaves who received pay.

01:22:25.000 And there were slaves who bought their own freedom with the money that they earned working as a slave.

01:22:31.000 And I think it's important that people understand the nuances and the context around a lot of this, because then you'll understand how it was possible.

01:22:37.000 You know, like I read about Frederick Douglass and I read about these other freed slaves, and it's like, they bought their freedom, and I'm like, wait, what?

01:22:46.000 And then I'm like, oh, interesting.

01:22:48.000 The system was not the movie system people think it was.

01:22:52.000 It is actually much more complicated and nuanced, albeit the whole thing, in my view, completely wrong.

01:22:56.000 And I think everyone's kind of realized that around the world, except for maybe North Africa.

01:23:00.000 I mean, it goes to show how long it takes for ideology to change.

01:23:05.000 I mean, it's going to take, you know, another 50, 100 years for a lot of the modern inverted racism to go away.

01:23:14.000 Like, it's really embedded.

01:23:15.000 Oh, the Democrats are getting CPR to racism as hard as they can.

01:23:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:23:19.000 Maybe, but time is more about motion and the ability for information to travel.

01:23:23.000 So with the internet... Speeding up.

01:23:25.000 Yeah, data transfers so quickly that it can metamorphize ideologies rapidly.

01:23:31.000 That's very true.

01:23:32.000 For good or evil.

01:23:34.000 It's a matter of making people comfortable and manipulating them casually, I think.

01:23:38.000 There are people who experience segregation still alive today.

01:23:41.000 That's wild.

01:23:41.000 I don't know.

01:23:43.000 It's called vaccine passports.

01:23:45.000 Black and white segregation.

01:23:47.000 Vaccine passport stuff was wrong, but black and white... But I do think we may... Actually, I'll say this. 0.62

01:23:55.000 I don't know if we're tending towards an end of gender segregation.

01:23:58.000 That's what the gender ideologues have pushed for, using the same argument that was used against racial segregation. 0.61

01:24:04.000 Considering Shane Gill is hosting SNL this weekend, I certainly think the woke are losing, so I'm not so sure that will happen.

01:24:11.000 But a bunch of the left have made the argument that gender segregation is no different than racial segregation.

01:24:16.000 And there's no argument for it, especially when the 1964 Civil Rights Act forbids discrimination on the basis of sex.

01:24:22.000 So there was a case in California where some guy sued the, like, Women in Computing Club.

01:24:28.000 He's like, a university had a club for women in computing.

01:24:30.000 It's not fair.

01:24:31.000 I should be allowed to join.

01:24:31.000 You're discriminating against me.

01:24:33.000 And the courts ruled, there's a club that men can join.

01:24:36.000 So it's not discriminatory.

01:24:37.000 If there is a club you can join, they're not saying you can't be in a club.

01:24:41.000 This one's just for women. 1.00

01:24:42.000 That one's for men. 0.98

01:24:43.000 way while... That's an interesting, real quick, that argument lends itself to segregation.

01:24:51.000 If there's two bathrooms and one's for white people and one's for black people, then you're 1.00

01:24:53.000 not being discriminated against, but we've already said no to that, so this case in California

01:24:56.000 seems questionable, which resulted in leftists now arguing, you cannot create two bathrooms

01:25:02.000 for two protected categories. That is discrimination under the law, period. And so now we're at

01:25:08.000 the point where, legally, they're correct.

01:25:12.000 Absolutely.

01:25:13.000 If the 1964 Civil Rights Act says you cannot discriminate on the basis of sex or race, and we've determined that bathrooms based on race are discrimination, then it follows that sex bathrooms also are. 0.55

01:25:23.000 But we also have a common sense and moral line where we're like, men and women are different, males and females are different, that's why we do this, to which the left has now countered the argument saying, that used to be the position.

01:25:36.000 of the segregationists. That black and white people were different and so it was for safety

01:25:40.000 reasons they had different spaces. They're trying to use the exact same arguments. Many

01:25:45.000 conservatives and libertarians have pointed out the 1964 Civil Rights Act has created the path

01:25:49.000 to wokeness to create things where like dudes are going in girls' bathrooms. 1.00

01:25:53.000 Do you buy that it's on the same level?

01:25:55.000 I do think men and women's bathroom is equal to segregation, but I support that type of segregation. 0.93

01:26:02.000 Like, yeah, we are segregating people by gender. 0.89

01:26:04.000 Right, but not gender, but like with, you know, say it was only a black area at a college.

01:26:12.000 I don't think we should have that.

01:26:13.000 I think it's okay to segregate by genders. 0.83

01:26:15.000 I don't think we should segregate by race.

01:26:16.000 Do you think that that new modern race segregation at schools is on the same level as historic?

01:26:23.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:26:23.000 Yes.

01:26:24.000 Can I ask that one more time?

01:26:26.000 Yeah.

01:26:26.000 Wait, wait, what?

01:26:27.000 I'm saying, you know, if there was, like, what Brett Weinstein... You're saying, like, when they do these POC-only rooms, it's the same segregation?

01:26:34.000 I'm saying, do you, I'm asking if you think it's the same level of segregation as it was traditionally.

01:26:40.000 Oh, no way.

01:26:41.000 No.

01:26:41.000 I think it was when it was institutionalized in every facet where like you couldn't go into a certain store or whatever that's a higher degree of segregation.

01:26:52.000 Okay, so you think that it's lesser?

01:26:55.000 It's a fact.

01:26:56.000 You're asking a fact-based question.

01:26:58.000 If there's a hundred universities that have, within their university system, one instance where they've created a black-only space, that is factually less than the entirety of the country having segregation as a standardized policy.

01:27:11.000 I'm with you, Elad.

01:27:12.000 I think that segregating based on sex is very different than racial segregation.

01:27:18.000 We've made it a dirty word, but I think what we're actually talking about here isn't a bad thing.

01:27:24.000 Go on.

01:27:26.000 What can you determine about someone based on the color of their skin?

01:27:28.000 Like nothing, almost nothing.

01:27:31.000 Some genetic ancestry.

01:27:32.000 That's about it.

01:27:33.000 Let's expand this though, because a lot of people are like, oh, come on.

01:27:36.000 No, no, no.

01:27:36.000 Like seriously, like a dude from Somalia and a dude from Haiti are different people.

01:27:40.000 They have a dark skin tone, but they're going to be very different.

01:27:42.000 Somalis are shorter than Haitians who are taller. 1.00

01:27:45.000 So what's your determination?

01:27:47.000 Skin color is not a good metric for any kind of segregation.

01:27:50.000 You can't even really determine someone's ethnic background or what part of the world they come from based on the color of their skin.

01:27:56.000 I went to Egypt and thought I was Egyptian.

01:27:58.000 I'm not.

01:28:00.000 I go to Spain, they thought I was Hispanic.

01:28:01.000 I go to Mexico, they think I'm Mexican.

01:28:03.000 They can't tell.

01:28:04.000 So, how someone looks isn't a good determining factor.

01:28:07.000 However, males and females, globally, everywhere, period, are different.

01:28:12.000 And so, that I get.

01:28:14.000 That lady from The View recently found out she's not as Puerto Rican. 1.00

01:28:17.000 Oh, man!

01:28:18.000 That was so funny!

01:28:19.000 Look, look, look.

01:28:20.000 Let's do this.

01:28:20.000 Sunny... The View's Sunny Hostin shocked to find she's descended from Spanish slaveholders.

01:28:26.000 Wait, is this one of those weird ones?

01:28:28.000 Like, people can also be descendants of slaves if their ancestors were raped by their slave owners and... Well, and of course.

01:28:36.000 I just wanted to make sure.

01:28:37.000 Well, let's see your reaction.

01:28:39.000 Wow.

01:28:41.000 I'm a little bit in shock.

01:28:43.000 I just always thought of myself as Puerto Rican.

01:28:46.000 You know, half Puerto Rican.

01:28:48.000 I didn't think I was... My family was originally from Spain and slaveholders.

01:28:54.000 Yeah.

01:28:55.000 So how are you feeling, my friend?

01:28:57.000 I just, I think it's actually pretty interesting that my husband and I have shared roots.

01:29:05.000 Yeah.

01:29:06.000 So I do appreciate that.

01:29:08.000 Because you married a slave owner. 1.00

01:29:09.000 I think it's great for our children to know this information.

01:29:13.000 Who was it?

01:29:13.000 There was a big story where it was like another view person.

01:29:15.000 They found out they were a descendant of slave owners.

01:29:18.000 And all the people on the right were like, ha, ha, ha. 0.91

01:29:21.000 And I'm like, bro, that means like the slave owner raped their slave. 0.99

01:29:23.000 Come on. 0.99

01:29:24.000 That's probably what it means.

01:29:25.000 So we were hanging out with some guy today.

01:29:30.000 We were hanging out with Matt from Bass Records.

01:29:32.000 Good dude.

01:29:33.000 And I didn't know if he wanted me to tell the story or not, but I'll say his name because he made the point.

01:29:38.000 But I've made this statement to a lot of people before.

01:29:41.000 When, you know, it comes up to my ethnic background and being part Korean, I'm like, well, well, I'm, you know, I'm part Korean, but a little bit Japanese.

01:29:49.000 Like, you know, my mom's 40% Korean, 10% Japanese.

01:29:52.000 Everyone goes, ooh.

01:29:54.000 Because you know what that means.

01:29:56.000 Yeah.

01:29:56.000 That does, that, that's, it's not a Romeo and Juliet Japanese guy being like, I don't care what my family thinks.

01:30:02.000 I love you.

01:30:02.000 I love you too.

01:30:03.000 It's more like, Burn the house down and take the women kind of thing, you know, I mean it still causes tensions in South Korea and Japan The South Koreans are totally ethno-supremacists.

01:30:16.000 Yeah, well many many people in those but I mean like South Koreans, the younger generation is moving away from it, but they are very ethno-supremacist. 0.98

01:30:27.000 There's a famous clip now of from, what's it?

01:30:29.000 I think it's called Bad Friends with Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee, right?

01:30:33.000 And then he's like saying, oh, Koreans never did slavery or whatever.

01:30:37.000 And they fact check him.

01:30:37.000 It turns out Koreans had slavery for like over a thousand years.

01:30:40.000 Bobby Lee constantly talks about how racist they are.

01:30:44.000 I know, yeah, of course, but he's pointing out the fact that, like, that's the reality, is that racism's been around way longer, and slavery's been around way longer than just suddenly in the 1800s in the U.S., and everyone always gets that wrong.

01:30:55.000 They're also a very patriarchal society.

01:30:57.000 Extremely, extremely, yeah.

01:30:58.000 Very, very patriarchal.

01:30:59.000 Koreans? 0.99

01:31:00.000 Koreans, yeah. 0.97

01:31:01.000 Yeah, they're mostly Korean supremacists.

01:31:04.000 They believe that they are the best superior race on the planet, and they have no problem telling you that.

01:31:09.000 They call it the Korean No-B system, which is commonly associated with slavery and social hierarchy in pre-modern Korea.

01:31:15.000 And for people, the Japanese and Koreans, who should be allies geopolitically right now, especially considering what's going on with China, still beef with one another over the actions of the Imperial Army in Japan. 0.96

01:31:28.000 Who they still revere over in Japan, but we don't need to shit on our allies now.

01:31:33.000 When I went to South Korea, I went to this museum where I learned about a great general, a naval general, and it was really hilarious because each room you walked through depicted a great victory. 0.67

01:31:44.000 But the funny thing I noticed was every great victory the size of the Navy was getting smaller.

01:31:49.000 And so it's like in the first one there's these big fleets and it's like the great general routed the Japanese and forced their ships off.

01:31:55.000 I was like, wow!

01:31:56.000 I walk in the next room and then it's like facing insurmountable odds he was able to drive back Japanese forces with a small force and I was like, interesting.

01:32:04.000 And then finally in the end it's like him and like a small handful of guys and I was like, you mean to tell me like he was losing the whole time?

01:32:09.000 Right.

01:32:09.000 It's a nice way of putting it.

01:32:10.000 Right.

01:32:11.000 Yeah.

01:32:11.000 But they like highlight the great stories of his successes, like Fairpoint, but it was an attrition, so... Yeah, sometimes a retreat can be what you call successful.

01:32:19.000 If the enemy loses more than you lose in the retreat, that's a successful retreat.

01:32:22.000 Dude, we have, um...

01:32:24.000 Where was this?

01:32:25.000 In New Jersey, I think.

01:32:27.000 I forgot what the name of the park is, but they've got the story of, I think it's Mercer.

01:32:32.000 I can't remember the guy's name.

01:32:33.000 This dude who was surrounded by the British, and then he just told them to kill him.

01:32:38.000 He would never betray the country.

01:32:40.000 There's cannons everywhere, and it's like we're watching across the Delaware or something.

01:32:44.000 It's fun to go to these places.

01:32:45.000 Growing up in Chicago, we didn't have any of this.

01:32:48.000 It doesn't exist.

01:32:48.000 It's like you just live in Chicago, but then you move out to the East Coast and it's just like these plaques everywhere talking about the war.

01:32:55.000 Out here, it's really crazy because we're like five minutes from John Brown Raid HQ, where John Brown organized the Harper's Ferry Raid.

01:33:01.000 Like, Harper's Ferry's literally here, down the street.

01:33:04.000 And, uh... Wait, what is it?

01:33:06.000 What's going on?

01:33:09.000 His house is the only house I ever thought should have a Black Lives Matter sign outside of it.

01:33:13.000 That one actually makes sense.

01:33:15.000 But he tried to trigger a slave revolt and they wouldn't do it.

01:33:18.000 Yeah.

01:33:18.000 Yeah, they were like, nah, get out of here.

01:33:20.000 First man hung by the state?

01:33:22.000 For treason.

01:33:23.000 For treason?

01:33:23.000 Was he first?

01:33:24.000 I feel like he was first.

01:33:26.000 Banned him from the ballot.

01:33:27.000 What's funny is the local casino, this is kind of wild, the local casino has their $25 chips at Charlestown, has John Brown, some of them have John Brown on it.

01:33:38.000 And I'm like, it's kind of wild because like, depending on who wins the war, the most vile and despicable people will be heralded as heroes.

01:33:48.000 Sherman.

01:33:49.000 Sherman.

01:33:50.000 Sherman's just another version of Brown, but on a larger scale.

01:33:55.000 Well, John Brown was definitely a terrorist, although he might have been fighting for things that were morally right.

01:34:01.000 And I think he's a dangerous person to idolize because, I mean, there are a lot of people who believe passionately some political things right now and shouldn't justify violence to try to achieve those ends.

01:34:15.000 But that's what John Brown did.

01:34:16.000 And I think some leftists especially idolize him in a misleading way.

01:34:22.000 Very dangerous.

01:34:23.000 But they would see him as far right today.

01:34:25.000 because I don't know. He's a Christian.

01:34:26.000 OK, super Christian.

01:34:28.000 That's why he was against slavery.

01:34:29.000 You know, like they wouldn't care.

01:34:31.000 Like they wouldn't agree with Putin.

01:34:33.000 Do you think John Brown would support gay marriage?

01:34:35.000 No, no, absolutely not.

01:34:37.000 Yeah, he'd do a lot of bad things about all these things.

01:34:39.000 You know, Sherman, though, sure, that guy was just like wanton disregard for human life.

01:34:46.000 I think you could argue that Sherman was trying to end the conflict quicker Via his brutal means to save more American.

01:34:54.000 I think he wanted an excuse to murder and destroy I think you're at war with somebody.

01:35:00.000 Yeah, and I mean, yeah, you're trying to end End the war within your own country.

01:35:04.000 Yeah, but I think that's war crimes. 0.79

01:35:06.000 You're in charge of killing all these people.

01:35:09.000 He killed innocent people, freed slaves. 0.96

01:35:11.000 He killed people on the sidelines, in the periphery of the war.

01:35:13.000 It wasn't just he was going after the Confederates.

01:35:15.000 They just burned everything.

01:35:17.000 We could go through individual instances, but I think war is terrible.

01:35:22.000 War is terrible.

01:35:24.000 He was trying to end the war.

01:35:26.000 But we should avoid war crimes.

01:35:28.000 Do you think we should have dropped the atom bomb?

01:35:30.000 Yeah, I definitely think we should drop the atom bomb.

01:35:32.000 I don't know if I agree with that either, and I see this too as the same thing, as desperate reasons to end a war.

01:35:36.000 No, I think Imperial Japan kind of gets a, like, looking back they get a good rep.

01:35:42.000 They were literally the Nazis of the Pacific. 0.70

01:35:44.000 They were insane.

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:45.000 They were insane.

01:35:45.000 I still don't know if I agree.

01:35:47.000 And this is at a point where we were in total war with- Let's turn it over.

01:35:51.000 With Japan. 0.97

01:35:52.000 Yeah.

01:35:52.000 Um, it's over until it's not and how many hundreds of thousands of American troops lives are worth trying to invade the homeland where the Japanese were trying to say they're going to fight until every last life.

01:36:02.000 I also think it's really easy for us looking back to go.

01:36:05.000 Oh, well, maybe, you know, maybe you actually should have just invaded would have been the largest amphibious assault on the mainland ever.

01:36:12.000 How, you know, it's easy to, I agree with looking back with 2020 vision or you have, you know, you have 2020 vision, but I also, I also just the war crimes. 0.91

01:36:21.000 Is there any war where there aren't any war crimes, though? 0.62

01:36:24.000 I feel like we could say that.

01:36:24.000 Every time, for every side.

01:36:26.000 I'm sure the Confederates committed war crimes. 0.85

01:36:30.000 I'm too lazy to look into them.

01:36:31.000 What were considered war crimes back then?

01:36:34.000 Well, you could look at the... Were the Geneva Conventions yet?

01:36:36.000 Did they have...?

01:36:37.000 Nope.

01:36:38.000 There were no war crimes back then.

01:36:40.000 I mean, there's still, ethically and morally, war crimes.

01:36:43.000 I'm spacing right now.

01:36:44.000 Who had Anderson Prison?

01:36:45.000 Was that the north or the south?

01:36:45.000 Andersonville.

01:36:46.000 Andersonville.

01:36:46.000 Was that the north or the south?

01:36:47.000 Dude, that movie is so good.

01:36:49.000 That's my favorite Civil War movie program.

01:36:54.000 It's kind of like a Unit 731 in Japan without all the modern technology.

01:36:58.000 Except for the human vivisection and experimentation.

01:37:01.000 They weren't dry freezing hands and shattering them, but it was so horrific.

01:37:05.000 Also, they had literal slaves in the South.

01:37:08.000 Yeah, right, right.

01:37:10.000 I still don't agree with everything Sherman did.

01:37:12.000 And I don't know, totally, you know, and every war, not totally for the second part, you don't have to agree with every I don't know anybody who I could agree with everything they did, they did.

01:37:21.000 But I think you could say Sherman helped and the war sooner than it would have otherwise, I feel like it's the same argument I'm using for Japan, actually.

01:37:29.000 I don't I don't think I think if the context of the Civil War happened today, I'm not so convinced the North would be able to win.

01:37:38.000 I think the South would be crazy.

01:37:41.000 I think the issue is the speed of communications.

01:37:43.000 I think that if videos started emerging, like the psychological effect of video and information would have such a dramatic change.

01:37:50.000 I mean, the march to the sea, I don't know could happen in an urban environment today because the moment the internet...

01:38:00.000 The North and South were competing for international supplies.

01:38:03.000 They needed trade.

01:38:04.000 The South, I think, they were trading cotton with the UK.

01:38:08.000 That's where that flag came from.

01:38:10.000 British boat.

01:38:10.000 A British boat.

01:38:11.000 Yeah, they seized it.

01:38:12.000 So, the North blockaded the South trying to cut their supplies.

01:38:16.000 What would happen internationally if videos emerged of, let's just say, literally 1861, but with internet video.

01:38:24.000 Videos emerge of civilians being shot in cold blood by Union soldiers.

01:38:30.000 international, like, relations for the North would shatter.

01:38:35.000 And they'd say, no, no, no, no, we did not supply and we don't condone that,

01:38:38.000 because they would face revolts in their own countries over the supplying of war,

01:38:42.000 over the facilitating of war crimes. It would cause them a lot of problems.

01:38:44.000 Is that new A24 movie out yet?

01:38:47.000 No.

01:38:48.000 No.

01:38:48.000 Tim, I think that'll be accurate because I think there would be people there could be clear video of war crimes

01:38:54.000 happening of whatever civil war would happen.

01:38:56.000 There would still be people denying it.

01:38:58.000 There are people be blaming the other side.

01:38:59.000 Oh, they killed their own people.

01:39:01.000 I'm just thinking about the October 7th attack and the amount of gaslighting that will exist.

01:39:05.000 Even if there was footage of people being slaughtered and killed, obviously, people who are civilians, people don't 1.00

01:39:10.000 care.

01:39:10.000 And we're discussing wrong.

01:39:12.000 So you're right to a certain degree, but the October 7th attack has resulted in the left shattering.

01:39:19.000 And you've got Michael Rapoport.

01:39:21.000 This was his turn.

01:39:22.000 He hates Trump.

01:39:23.000 All of a sudden, he's wearing a Star of David and he says, what the is wrong with these people?

01:39:27.000 That's opened a door for him to start exploring more about what they're doing.

01:39:30.000 And now he's like, the cops are being beaten.

01:39:33.000 When people realize Black Lives Matter was celebrating these paragliders, I mean, look, I got no beef with someone criticizing Israel's military actions. 0.99

01:39:42.000 It's a war, okay?

01:39:43.000 By all means, please criticize people's military actions.

01:39:46.000 It should be done.

01:39:47.000 And there is a risk to Israel in that a lot of this propaganda is being supported by the left.

01:39:55.000 But, man, what Hamas did, Really, really messed up the progressive left in this country. 0.92

01:40:03.000 Sherman's march to the sea was absolutely brutal.

01:40:05.000 I mean, it is historically canon.

01:40:07.000 He was destroying civilian targets and killing civilians.

01:40:10.000 Did not care.

01:40:11.000 It was scorched earth.

01:40:12.000 Everything must burn.

01:40:15.000 On that scale, you know, the problem with the Confederates, one of the reasons they lost?

01:40:20.000 They thought all they had to do was prove they had the military might and the fighting would stop.

01:40:24.000 They did not realize the Union was going to burn their children and burn homes to the ground to win this.

01:40:29.000 Not that I'm a fan of what the Confederacy would have implemented. 0.99

01:40:33.000 It's a good thing they lost, but holy crap. 0.98

01:40:35.000 I'm not a fan of dropping nuclear bombs on Japan. 0.97

01:40:39.000 At the first battle of Bull Run, they repelled the Union and they're like, that's it.

01:40:43.000 The war is over.

01:40:45.000 There's not going to be a war.

01:40:46.000 We just proved that they can't come in here.

01:40:48.000 And then they came in and started just brutalizing the South. 0.55

01:40:51.000 This mobilized the South feeling they were being invaded.

01:40:54.000 And then eventually a turn happened where, I forget which general, it might have been, I don't know, Jackson, they felt that The only way to actually win this was to invade the North and put pressure on the North to stop supporting this war.

01:41:06.000 Civilians in the North needed to understand what the war was, and it was an opportunity for them to seize resources.

01:41:11.000 Unfortunately, they moved into Gettysburg.

01:41:13.000 Didn't go too well for the Confederates, but I imagine what would happen if the international community was watching something akin to the March to the Sea.

01:41:20.000 It is hard enough for US troops dealing with IEDs and strapping, like they strap bombs to kids.

01:41:29.000 And then you end up with American soldiers being placed into a military tribunal or whatever,

01:41:35.000 or court-martialed because of the perception of what they did, not what they had to do

01:41:39.000 to defend themselves.

01:41:40.000 There's no way I could see Union soldiers in many of these circumstances being able to defend

01:41:44.000 the actions if they were blasted out on the internet around the world, and that would cause problems

01:41:48.000 the Union's ability to supply itself.

01:41:50.000 That being said, they had a lot of resources in and of themselves.

01:41:52.000 I don't know that, you know, what would have happened if they didn't have international support.

01:41:56.000 But, anyway, we should go to Super Chats because we went a little over here.

01:42:03.000 So we'll go to Super Chats.

01:42:03.000 Nice little war chat inspired by the flag.

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01:42:23.000 I will read your Super Chat. 0.99

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01:42:26.000 TokenBlackGuy says, Tim Pool, you have been called.

01:42:28.000 You are the mayor.

01:42:29.000 West Virginia needs time to take the mantle.

01:42:31.000 The mayor of where?

01:42:32.000 Charlestown?

01:42:32.000 I don't want to be a mayor.

01:42:35.000 Not interested.

01:42:36.000 I think it was because I was saying, like, if I was ever, like, if I got elected president or governor, Trump, you ain't seen nothing with Trump.

01:42:43.000 Like, Vivek?

01:42:44.000 No way, dude.

01:42:45.000 I would, I would, I would not just go to my AG and be like, can we get criminal charges?

01:42:52.000 I would go on television.

01:42:54.000 I would do a live stream and issue a statement about the requirement for this nation and the reasons why certain individuals must be criminally charged, must face an investigation and a trial by a jury of their peers.

01:43:07.000 And I would formally declare like it must be done.

01:43:11.000 Now I give it to those in the executive branch with the authority to make those positions happen, but let my intentions be clear to the American people.

01:43:19.000 Certain people in this country must be criminally charged.

01:43:22.000 Like Joe Biden and the Burisma stuff.

01:43:25.000 It is absurd.

01:43:27.000 And they use this documents case as the shield. 1.00

01:43:29.000 He's not going to be criminally charged because he's a doddering old fool. 0.99

01:43:32.000 And you know what they're really saying? 0.99

01:43:33.000 He'll never face charges over Burisma.

01:43:35.000 Nah, if I was I was saying like if I was the governor of West Virginia, I would make do a public assessment or a public statement where I'd say law enforcement of the state of West Virginia must immediately begin the process of a raid on CBP facilities in the eastern panhandle.

01:43:53.000 And I have already called on, to the extent that I can, the Attorney General and our prosecutors to seek out warrants from judges allowing state forces to raid that facility for evidence of human trafficking and smuggling operations they have engaged in.

01:44:07.000 Let them panic.

01:44:08.000 And people might say, but then you're informing them you're doing it.

01:44:10.000 Oh yes, that's the point.

01:44:12.000 And then if they don't do it, I'll say, hey, I made my declaration, I did what I could do.

01:44:16.000 I don't expect it to be dictatorial that everyone just does when I bang a gavel.

01:44:19.000 I expect them to go through the legal process and go to a judge and make the argument, but I want to make sure everybody knows.

01:44:24.000 You got this big CBP facility, you got CBP agents out here, they know the show, and I'm like...

01:44:30.000 There's videos of them working with cartels.

01:44:33.000 It's mind-blowing to see, like, the cartels bring these people up and they're armed.

01:44:39.000 CBP is like, howdy, and they open the gate and bring them in.

01:44:42.000 I'm disgusted by that.

01:44:43.000 Anyway.

01:44:44.000 Read Area 51 and Ray Patterson while you're at it, please.

01:44:47.000 I mean...

01:44:48.000 I feel like, depending on the public and apparent crimes that need to be, you know, held to account, I don't know that Area 51 has those, and I respect the right of the U.S.

01:45:00.000 military to have secrets.

01:45:02.000 Depending on those secrets, we can't just, like, announce to the world our military capabilities, our security to be compromised, but...

01:45:09.000 You know, let's read more.

01:45:10.000 Jennifer Lopinto says, I want to shout out my husband, Sean, who has largely been an influence in my recovery from leftist ideology.

01:45:16.000 He loves this show, and so do I. This is the way.

01:45:19.000 Shout out!

01:45:20.000 Sean.

01:45:21.000 That's, that's the way!

01:45:22.000 You know, husbands, lighten the path. 0.95

01:45:23.000 Does it spell S-E-A-N or S-H-A-W-N?

01:45:26.000 S-E-A-N. 1.00

01:45:26.000 Nice, dude. 1.00

01:45:27.000 It's a healthy marriage.

01:45:28.000 That's right.

01:45:29.000 Ian Kinney says, it blows my mind that I live in Wisconsin and never heard about the Chippewa Falls school until last night.

01:45:35.000 Chippewa Falls is on the other side of the state from me, closer to the Minnesota border.

01:45:38.000 That's where that shooting almost took place.

01:45:42.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:45:43.000 says, oh no guys, I watched the Tucker v. Putin interview.

01:45:46.000 MSM was right.

01:45:47.000 I'm now a Putin puppet and I want to work with Russia to undermine our democracy. 0.95

01:45:50.000 Oh no!

01:45:52.000 Oh jeez.

01:45:52.000 Watch out, don't do those memes.

01:45:54.000 You might get in trouble for something.

01:45:55.000 Yeah.

01:45:57.000 Stinky Man says, would you buy Bud Light if, during the Super Bowl, Dylan came out and said, 365 of drinking Bud Light.

01:46:05.000 I've grown a beard and work out daily.

01:46:06.000 I built a deck without permits.

01:46:08.000 I have chickens.

01:46:09.000 I heard they're doing a Super Bowl ad. 1.00

01:46:11.000 And it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. 1.00

01:46:12.000 Oh, it's already out? 1.00

01:46:13.000 Yeah, I mean, it's stupid they release Super Bowl ads before the Super Bowl. 0.99

01:46:16.000 Now they do. 1.00

01:46:17.000 That is stupid. 1.00

01:46:18.000 But, yo, the commercial, you can watch it and you're gonna be like, what? 1.00

01:46:22.000 It's just nothing.

01:46:23.000 It's the weirdest. 0.98

01:46:25.000 It's not even, it's not even funny, like, I talk about the Quiznos subs, where those stupid rat things are like, ehhh, we like to eat sandwiches, or whatever, and like, everyone remembers it. 0.89

01:46:34.000 This one isn't not memorable at all. 0.98

01:46:35.000 It's just like, the stupidest random commercial, I can't believe they tried doing this during the Super Bowl. 0.98

01:46:42.000 We broke the company, guys. 1.00

01:46:43.000 We, we, they're, they're broke. 0.99

01:46:44.000 Pfau says, elad, you're a mad lad, malad. 0.97

01:46:48.000 Take my money, dad. 0.88

01:46:49.000 Really love your reporting style.

01:46:50.000 Followed you all through the summer of love.

01:46:52.000 I appreciate you, dude.

01:46:53.000 Thanks for the super chat, guys.

01:46:55.000 Follow us at TimCastNews on Twitter.

01:46:57.000 We do a lot of great fields reporting and other journalists here doing a great job.

01:47:00.000 Also, the SCNR YouTube channel has all your videos up on it.

01:47:02.000 So if you go to SCNR on YouTube, subscribe, you can watch Ilad's reporting.

01:47:07.000 One of my favorites is you running after the person in the golf cart.

01:47:10.000 Was that like a year or two ago?

01:47:12.000 Russell Fry while he was running, yeah, in North Carolina.

01:47:15.000 Great video.

01:47:16.000 Yeah.

01:47:17.000 Thank you so much.

01:47:18.000 Oh man, you're the best.

01:47:20.000 Third Eye says, Yo Tim, please read.

01:47:22.000 I haven't laughed so hard in a long time.

01:47:24.000 The Babylon Bee just dropped the funniest article I've ever read.

01:47:27.000 Biden calls for the president to step down.

01:47:30.000 Very nice.

01:47:32.000 Knowing their track record, that could become true.

01:47:37.000 Venom Symbiont says, did anyone else see the horrible Tucker Carlson deepfake Bitcoin ad?

01:47:41.000 It popped up for me during the show.

01:47:42.000 Sketchy.

01:47:43.000 Whoa, that means YouTube's running it.

01:47:45.000 I've seen Mr. Beast deep AI ads on like Instagram and stuff.

01:47:50.000 They did it with Joe Rogan a while ago.

01:47:53.000 There was a fake ad.

01:47:55.000 Yeah, what was that? 1.00

01:47:57.000 It was like a testosterone thing to make your dick bigger. 1.00

01:48:00.000 And it was an AI of Joe Rogan. 0.99

01:48:01.000 It sounded really weird.

01:48:02.000 He was like, well, the thing is about this, it makes you big.

01:48:06.000 And then the guy was like, that's right.

01:48:07.000 And I'm like, yo, this is the most classic scam.

01:48:11.000 Make it bigger.

01:48:11.000 Come on, guys.

01:48:15.000 Hey, man, people spend money on anything.

01:48:16.000 You know what I mean?

01:48:17.000 Let's go!

01:48:18.000 What do we got here?

01:48:19.000 Jason Hutchinson says, if he's too old to be held to account, he's too old to be president. 1.00

01:48:23.000 This is very dumb. 0.99

01:48:24.000 What are we doing? 0.99

01:48:24.000 That's right. 0.99

01:48:25.000 What should the age limit be?

01:48:27.000 I don't know about age limit.

01:48:29.000 Or, yeah, just aptitude.

01:48:31.000 You know, maybe there should be.

01:48:33.000 Yeah.

01:48:33.000 Maybe it should be 35 to 60.

01:48:35.000 Target the other side of it.

01:48:37.000 It's anti-democratic.

01:48:38.000 You get left with what you pick.

01:48:40.000 We're picking these older people. 0.99

01:48:42.000 Then why have a lower limit?

01:48:46.000 Oh, no, we shouldn't have a lower limit either.

01:48:47.000 Anti-democratic.

01:48:48.000 Five-year-old.

01:48:49.000 I mean, they wouldn't have a good caucus.

01:48:51.000 Nobody would want to vote for them, but yeah, five-year-old.

01:48:54.000 I actually fear fake presidents.

01:48:57.000 That we're going to come to the point where everyone's going to be watching the news, and there's going to be a guy who makes arguments and says all these things, and he's going to be AI-generated and not real, but no one knows because everyone just sees him in these videos.

01:49:08.000 Just like all the boyfriends and girlfriends right now.

01:49:10.000 I'm going to take Bucko downstairs, so I wanted to say hello and goodbye for everyone that hasn't seen him yet.

01:49:15.000 You guys match a little bit.

01:49:16.000 Yeah.

01:49:16.000 Yeah, you match.

01:49:17.000 Yeah, they do match.

01:49:18.000 Let's go, Bocus! 1.00

01:49:19.000 I'll be back.

01:49:20.000 Mr. Bocus, seeing his way out.

01:49:23.000 He came up here before the show and he jumped on my table and then just laid in front of me with his, like, just flat.

01:49:28.000 Not a good sign.

01:49:29.000 So, you know, we let him stick around.

01:49:31.000 But, uh...

01:49:33.000 It's just impossible to know what to do, because he's on all these drugs, and the drugs do cause problems, but they alleviate some problems as well.

01:49:41.000 We got him stem cells, and so I'm like, what if we got him stem cells and they're working, but the drugs he's on is actually inhibiting his potential recovery, what do we do?

01:49:49.000 And so it's just like, stay the course, I guess, but he got real sick the other day, collapsed, pissed himself, couldn't move.

01:49:55.000 So I've been giving him raw beef, which I don't know is the right thing to do, but I have two thoughts on it.

01:49:59.000 One is, you know, if he's about to die, and he was supposed to die a year ago, Little man gets to have his last meal and it's going to be what he wants.

01:50:07.000 Yeah, what is it?

01:50:07.000 He enjoys that the most?

01:50:08.000 He goes nuts for it.

01:50:10.000 There it is.

01:50:10.000 So I give him a little bit.

01:50:12.000 But I'm also hoping that, I've read a bunch of studies about raw meat diets for animals.

01:50:17.000 I'm hoping that it is beneficial to him in some way as a very low phosphorus meat.

01:50:21.000 Maybe this actually can get him what he needs and I doubt it.

01:50:26.000 But I'm also kind of like, dude is on his last days.

01:50:29.000 Quality of life.

01:50:30.000 It matters.

01:50:31.000 I don't know, dude.

01:50:31.000 You said that a year ago, and he's still going.

01:50:33.000 I didn't want to bring that up.

01:50:34.000 Every time I come here, it's always the last day.

01:50:36.000 Yeah, but he weighs nothing now.

01:50:39.000 Like, last year, he was sick, and they said he was gonna live for a week.

01:50:43.000 We got him a bunch of drugs, we got him hydration therapy, we got him on stem cells, and he stabilized.

01:50:47.000 But he is slowly withering away.

01:50:50.000 So, when we see him collapse, piss himself, and then struggle to move, we're like, he might have died right there on the spot.

01:50:57.000 So it's kinda like, that's the worst we've seen it.

01:51:01.000 And then when he came up here and jumped on the table and the way he laid down, it looked like he was struggling to move.

01:51:06.000 Like, he was just burned out.

01:51:08.000 He's losing weight, and we're like, we gotta figure out how to put weight on him.

01:51:12.000 But if he can't, because his kidneys are busted, what can you do, you know?

01:51:14.000 Every day's a blessing.

01:51:16.000 It's brutal, because every time everyone comes here, they're like, oh, is he old?

01:51:18.000 And I'm like, no, he's five.

01:51:19.000 He just has a heart problem, a heart defect, genetic heart defect, and underdeveloped kidneys.

01:51:24.000 There's nothing we could do.

01:51:25.000 We were going to get him a kidney transplant, but because of his heart, we can't.

01:51:28.000 They do this thing where you adopt a cat that's to be put down, and they share the kidneys, and you have to adopt both cats.

01:51:35.000 So you save both their lives.

01:51:38.000 And so we were like, can we do this?

01:51:39.000 And they said, Mr. Bogus will die if you give him a kidney transplant because of his heart.

01:51:43.000 He can't take it. 1.00

01:51:44.000 We're like, damn. 0.99

01:51:45.000 Yeah, we did the right thing. 0.99

01:51:46.000 He's eating heavily right now.

01:51:48.000 He went right for the food.

01:51:49.000 Nice.

01:51:49.000 That's good.

01:51:50.000 He hungered.

01:51:51.000 That's good.

01:51:52.000 All right.

01:51:52.000 Thinker4Life says, did we forget Obama poked the bear during Sochi Olympics?

01:51:57.000 The, uh, let's see, what is it?

01:51:59.000 LG- Gays didn't like the Russian law that forbids gay influence of children, so Obama sent our top advocate, Billie Jean King. 0.93

01:52:07.000 Really?

01:52:09.000 Yeah, Sochi is wild.

01:52:10.000 The Olympics are wild because, like, the reports are that they all just bang each other non-stop.

01:52:14.000 Have you guys read that?

01:52:15.000 In the villages, yeah, and then they make the Olympic babies because they're supposed to be genetic studs.

01:52:20.000 So, the Olympics are, like, athletic eugenics?

01:52:22.000 Well, I went to school at University of Utah.

01:52:24.000 But you put that word on it, and it'll make anything sound different.

01:52:27.000 But I went to school at University of Utah, and that's, like, where they had, like, the O2 Salt Lake City Games.

01:52:32.000 There's, like, the whole, uh...

01:52:33.000 Athlete Village or whatever is basically where like the dorms are and yeah, I've heard a lot of stories about that from the little staff over there.

01:52:39.000 Tazewell says, why does Ian look like a character from Baldur's Gate 3 tonight?

01:52:43.000 Because Richie Jackson gave me this, clothed me, well I clothed myself, but Richie Jackson gave me the outfit.

01:52:49.000 And he is a bard. 1.00

01:52:50.000 Or I guess he would be.

01:52:51.000 Is Richie a bard?

01:52:53.000 Is Richie more of a rogue than a bard?

01:52:55.000 He's kind of like a... I don't know, he's not a rogue.

01:52:56.000 He'd carry a rapier around if he was in Baldur's Gate. 0.88

01:53:00.000 Unguard! 0.94

01:53:01.000 I think bard. 0.62

01:53:02.000 Richie?

01:53:03.000 Yeah.

01:53:03.000 He's an athlete.

01:53:05.000 He's not really a musician.

01:53:06.000 He looks like a bard. 1.00

01:53:07.000 Bards have school of swords, or college of swords, or whatever it's called. 1.00

01:53:10.000 Like a non-musical bard? 1.00

01:53:13.000 No, he's a musical guy.

01:53:14.000 He's super musical.

01:53:15.000 He loves music.

01:53:15.000 He can tell you everything about rock and roll.

01:53:17.000 He knows all of it.

01:53:18.000 Only Richie.

01:53:19.000 Only Richie will tell.

01:53:20.000 You can ask him the most obscure rock question, he'll have the answer for you.

01:53:23.000 Definitely a bard. 1.00

01:53:25.000 Let's go.

01:53:27.000 OMG Puppy says, releasing a spy wouldn't get Putin anything.

01:53:30.000 Western press wouldn't reward him.

01:53:32.000 It wouldn't phase the neocons or lessen their obsession with destroying Russia.

01:53:35.000 No.

01:53:36.000 But it could press public support in a negative position, and that's what they're desperately trying to avoid.

01:53:40.000 That's what they're scared of.

01:53:41.000 That being said, I think the evidence here is this dude Evans got information that Putin's scared of.

01:53:46.000 What I don't understand about that, though, is why they don't trade him and then Putin just scoop up another American journalist or another American in Russia, so.

01:53:54.000 Big Fat Irving says Russia has Evan Gershkovich, Ukraine has Gonzalo Lira.

01:53:58.000 Why is one reporter more important than the other?

01:54:00.000 Gonzalo Lira may be dead.

01:54:02.000 I believe it was his father who said that he had died.

01:54:05.000 So, right.

01:54:07.000 It is funny that in the United States they don't care at all about Gonzalo Lira.

01:54:12.000 So, sorry Evan!

01:54:15.000 The machine here hates you for what you are.

01:54:18.000 Frontline Texan says to him, I'm curious, what makes you believe the media would report if Tucker succeeded in bringing him back?

01:54:23.000 And if they did, it's not likely that they would spin it as Tucker is a Russian puppet and it was staged.

01:54:28.000 They could.

01:54:28.000 I'm saying it would amplify the Tucker story no matter what, good or bad.

01:54:31.000 It would make it the biggest thing in the country.

01:54:36.000 The rescuing of an American journalist.

01:54:39.000 Tucker already has the eyeballs on him.

01:54:41.000 Now you add in the rescuing of a journalist?

01:54:43.000 Good on Tucker for asking.

01:54:45.000 Not that it didn't work, but...

01:54:48.000 Good luck.

01:54:49.000 Alright, Stephen Scrace says, Ian Crossland started working out, found Jesus, and then realized that America actually should impose righteous, lawful, and proper rule upon the world.

01:54:58.000 This happened tonight.

01:55:01.000 Jesus is pretty cool.

01:55:02.000 I worked out earlier today.

01:55:03.000 And yes, American constitutionalism is legitimate.

01:55:06.000 Ian's been calling for neocon policy now for a long time.

01:55:09.000 I just think we need to inspire people to do it for themselves.

01:55:12.000 I don't think walking around being like, do my thing!

01:55:15.000 That has not worked, and I don't imagine would.

01:55:17.000 But when people have had enough and they're like, what they have is better, I want what they have, and they're looking at me and our country, then we'll see them have their own decentralized revolution.

01:55:28.000 Eric Ellman says, for preserving the flag.

01:55:31.000 Yes, and Devin Porter said, Tim, I'm a millwork drafter.

01:55:36.000 I work for a company that builds casework.

01:55:38.000 I can draw a case for that flag.

01:55:40.000 So like a case with a glass front so it's on display?

01:55:42.000 Oh, nice.

01:55:42.000 Because if that's the case, what's the best way to get in touch?

01:55:45.000 Is he able to DM you or something or message you on Twitter?

01:55:49.000 Yeah, hit me up on Twitter, send me a DM.

01:55:52.000 Or admin at scanner.com.

01:55:54.000 Yeah, you'll get it.

01:55:55.000 So Devin Porter, if you heard that, admin at scnr.com or hit up Ian on Twitter and we'll get to work on that display case.

01:56:04.000 Yeah, you're probably better going with Bill since you know... I will also get one if you can.

01:56:10.000 We have a Civil War Union musket, it's never been fired, not even dry fired, and I would love to get a case for that and put it on display too.

01:56:17.000 It's right over there, it's just been sitting against the wall.

01:56:20.000 Yeah, actual union.

01:56:22.000 There's like 10,000 of them.

01:56:23.000 They made them, had them sitting around, never used them.

01:56:25.000 Wow.

01:56:26.000 Yup.

01:56:27.000 Super cool.

01:56:27.000 Heavy.

01:56:28.000 Yeah, they're crazy. 0.94

01:56:29.000 Rifled musket. 0.99

01:56:31.000 Crazy stuff.

01:56:32.000 It was cool.

01:56:32.000 We go antiquing.

01:56:34.000 Yo, if you're in West Virginia, antiquing, dude.

01:56:36.000 There's an antique shop full of Nazi paraphernalia.

01:56:38.000 It's crazy.

01:56:42.000 So, uh... Where is it at?

01:56:45.000 It's in the Eastern Panhandle.

01:56:46.000 There's just so many antique shops.

01:56:48.000 But there's this one that is... It's close to Martinsburg.

01:56:52.000 South of Martinsburg.

01:56:53.000 I don't know exactly which one it is.

01:56:55.000 But there's like...

01:56:56.000 It's their malls, basically, so people will set up a portion and they'll pay rent to have their space.

01:57:01.000 But one guy's got a whole bunch of World War II stuff, so it's not just Nazi, but there's like a German captured pistol.

01:57:08.000 And with like the official thing explaining what it is, who captured it, the rank of the guy, crazy stuff.

01:57:14.000 Helmets, insignias.

01:57:16.000 I worked at an auction gallery for about 10 years, and we had periodically these World War II auctions.

01:57:22.000 And my boss got so mad because a reporter came, and the picture they used of him was him with the giant swastika behind him.

01:57:29.000 So in the local paper, it's just like, this is my crazy boss and the giant swastika.

01:57:33.000 It's amazing.

01:57:35.000 The crazy thing is, uh, we went to an antique shop in Austin, and they were selling a bunch of swastikas, and it seemed like the guy who worked there actually got offended at the idea that it was offensive.

01:57:44.000 I asked, I was like, don't people, like, freak out?

01:57:46.000 And he was like, no.

01:57:47.000 He was like, this was a commonplace symbol across the United States.

01:57:51.000 Pre-World War II, and it is on tons of advertisements, buildings, but now they're all trying to erase it and cover it up.

01:57:57.000 It's true.

01:57:58.000 South Side of Chicago, there's a big house that has a swastika built into the top, and they nailed wooden blocks to make it into a square.

01:58:07.000 Wow.

01:58:07.000 But is it in the same orientation as the swastika?

01:58:10.000 Exactly.

01:58:10.000 It was the same?

01:58:11.000 They're not angled.

01:58:12.000 They're not angled, right.

01:58:13.000 So it's just like, and it went the other direction, I think.

01:58:16.000 And then Hitler inverted it and then tilted it. 0.81

01:58:19.000 But so on the building, it's just a straight up symbol.

01:58:22.000 And then they put the wood blocks to fill the gap, so it's just a square with lines through it.

01:58:25.000 But you can see it.

01:58:27.000 Wow.

01:58:27.000 Because you can see the blocks.

01:58:29.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:58:31.000 Triton54 says, Union Jack is the blue section of the U.S.

01:58:33.000 flag flown from the forward end of U.S.

01:58:34.000 Navy ships.

01:58:35.000 watch the video and you'd watch it but now any video a lot of it has been the

01:58:38.000 last year they're like they had a little disclaimer before you start watching

01:58:41.000 saying we do not condone Nazism just so you know it's like dude you don't to say

01:58:45.000 that it's just a speech but yep let's grab some more super chats trying 54

01:58:51.000 says Union Jack is the blue section of the US flag flown from the Ford end of

01:58:56.000 US Navy ships is that is that is that right hmm I believe Union Jack is a

01:59:00.000 reference to the UK flag I'm pretty sure it is.

01:59:03.000 I don't know.

01:59:04.000 Maybe the Union Jack is on those, but I don't... I don't know that.

01:59:07.000 I've never heard that before.

01:59:09.000 Yep.

01:59:10.000 Union Jack flag.

01:59:11.000 British flag.

01:59:12.000 Yeah.

01:59:13.000 We, uh... Yeah, because... Yeah.

01:59:17.000 Union flag, Union Jack, it's British.

01:59:20.000 Well, there you go.

01:59:22.000 Let's grab a couple more Super Chats.

01:59:24.000 Maybe we'll just grab, uh, two.

01:59:25.000 Wow.

01:59:26.000 Not so much that way today.

01:59:26.000 I'm half Korean, white, ex-US Army stationed in Korea in the 90s, was told not to talk

01:59:31.000 about being Korean since the locals would assume my mom was a hooker." 0.98

01:59:33.000 Wow. 0.98

01:59:36.000 Not so much that way today.

01:59:38.000 Now, I think what I was told was that it's more of a novelty, and there's this attitude

01:59:46.000 of deep curiosity.

01:59:49.000 So a journalist told me that if I went to North Korea they would be like super excited that I was there and try and ask me everything about my family and try and learn as much as possible.

01:59:58.000 Still holding like a disdainful view of like, oof, but how did it happen?

02:00:02.000 You know?

02:00:03.000 So there you go.

02:00:05.000 Good fun.

02:00:06.000 Maybe one day Donald Trump will get reelected and he will help bring peace to the Korean peninsula and then I can actually go visit the town for which my, I believe my great-grandfather?

02:00:19.000 Or is it great-grandfather?

02:00:22.000 Great-great, I think.

02:00:23.000 Yeah, great-great-grandfather.

02:00:26.000 Actually, maybe great-grandfather.

02:00:28.000 I don't know.

02:00:29.000 Your mom's grandpa or something?

02:00:30.000 Or her great-grandfather?

02:00:32.000 My mom's great-grandfather, I think.

02:00:35.000 Yeah, I think it's great-grandfather.

02:00:37.000 I don't know.

02:00:37.000 It's hard to track these things.

02:00:39.000 I need to ask my mom.

02:00:40.000 But it's funny because, like, the white side of my family is easy. 0.79

02:00:44.000 I go to Europe and I'm like, oh, so this is Ireland.

02:00:46.000 Oh, so this is London.

02:00:47.000 Oh, so this is Germany.

02:00:48.000 I go to Korea and it's like, I can't cross that line.

02:00:51.000 So, uh, one side of my mom's side of the family was from the South and one side's from the North, but there was no North or South back then.

02:00:57.000 It was just farm workers. 1.00

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02:01:15.000 Bill, do you want to shout anything out?

02:01:16.000 Yeah, a couple things.

02:01:17.000 So, Minds has expanded.

02:01:19.000 You can now launch your own social network and app based on the Minds software.

02:01:25.000 So, if you go to minds.com slash about slash networks you can launch your own app that is connected to the decentralized social web.

02:01:33.000 That's what we've done with Scanner on scnr.com.

02:01:37.000 So, it now has its own node of the decentralized social world and you can get all the scanner articles on there and apps are coming soon for scanner on both stores so keep an eye out and I have for those and then minds fast we got coming up April 27th at the Vulcan in Austin it's going to be

02:01:58.000 Awesome.

02:01:59.000 And Sean is telling me that we need to challenge Elon and Mark Cuban to come debate DEI.

02:02:07.000 I wanted to say we could bill it as the white supremacist versus the African-American. 0.91

02:02:12.000 Yeah.

02:02:14.000 So thanks for having me, man.

02:02:15.000 What's the website you mentioned?

02:02:17.000 Minds.com slash about slash networks.

02:02:19.000 Yeah.

02:02:19.000 Slash networks with an S.

02:02:24.000 My name's Elad Eliyahu.

02:02:25.000 I'm a journalist here at TimCast News.

02:02:27.000 Follow us on Twitter and Instagram and all that good stuff.

02:02:31.000 It's been awesome.

02:02:31.000 Thanks for tuning in, guys.

02:02:32.000 This was a really fun one.

02:02:33.000 You can find me at Shane Cashman online and tomorrow at three o'clock I'll be on Pop Culture Crisis with Brett and Mary.

02:02:39.000 I'm looking forward to it.

02:02:40.000 Oh, awesome.

02:02:40.000 This was a good one.

02:02:41.000 And shout out to Richie Jackson for giving me this awesome shirt, Bill.

02:02:44.000 Thanks for bringing the flag.

02:02:46.000 Tim, good show.

02:02:47.000 Good to see you guys.

02:02:48.000 Good to see you a lot.

02:02:49.000 You too, Shane.

02:02:50.000 I like how you can like blend into almost any conversation.

02:02:52.000 It's nice.

02:02:53.000 I'm a ghost. 1.00

02:02:54.000 Yes, you are a chameleon of the mind. 0.99

02:02:57.000 Serge Dupria.

02:02:58.000 Hey, that was a good one.

02:02:59.000 I agree.

02:03:00.000 Good show.

02:03:00.000 Good to have you here, Elad.

02:03:02.000 Likewise, Bill, as well.

02:03:03.000 Thanks, dude.

02:03:03.000 And Shane, thanks for doing the show.

02:03:04.000 Of course.

02:03:05.000 Yeah, let's stop the show, Tim.

02:03:08.000 All right.

02:03:08.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.

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