Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Donald Trump & Elon Musk LIVE NOW, Trump HAS RETURNED To X For Election w-Mark Ivanyo | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 We'll see you next week.

00:00:18.000 We will have that live here on TimCast IRL with commentary and criticism, though I think we're going to do a lot of listening to understand Donald Trump's positions right now with Elon Musk, as they've both... Well, Donald Trump has praised Elon Musk.

00:00:32.000 Elon Musk, of course, has been speaking out quite a bit about what's going on in the UK and free speech.

00:00:36.000 This is huge.

00:00:37.000 Donald Trump has returned to X, formerly with Twitter, and already, as we are waiting in the placeholder for Donald Trump's interview on Spaces, it's crashed.

00:00:48.000 I think we're already looking at over 700,000 people have tried to view the Space.

00:00:52.000 I don't know if they're going to be able to pull this off, but it's going to be very interesting.

00:00:55.000 Now, there's big news around this.

00:00:56.000 In the EU, they're threatening Elon Musk because he dared to say he will interview Donald Trump.

00:01:02.000 And they're saying, hey, don't forget we got laws and hate speech, and you're under investigation.

00:01:06.000 The Guardian published an article by a Twitter exec saying, arrest!

00:01:10.000 Issue a warrant for Elon Musk's arrest.

00:01:13.000 They are losing their minds.

00:01:16.000 Plus, Donald Trump's campaign HQ in Virginia burglarized.

00:01:16.000 We'll talk about that.

00:01:21.000 This is breaking news.

00:01:22.000 It's only about an hour or so ago.

00:01:23.000 We'll pull that one up.

00:01:24.000 And then we got the Stolen Valor scandal, which is just getting crazier.

00:01:28.000 A Minnesota government website actually showing a statement from Tim Walz.

00:01:34.000 They say it's his words where he claims to have been the National Guard, it was in Bagram, and it's all manipulation.

00:01:40.000 We'll break that down.

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00:03:11.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and maybe just comment on this interview is Marc Ivano.

00:03:16.000 Hey Tim, pleasure to be here.

00:03:18.000 Who are you?

00:03:18.000 What do you do?

00:03:19.000 So I'm the Executive Director of Republicans for National Renewal, which is a political non-profit organization essentially promoting the America First agenda, which was brought into the political sphere by President Trump, as your audience knows, in 2016.

00:03:31.000 And so we want to basically renew the Republican Party from the grassroots level up.

00:03:35.000 So at the local, state, and federal level, so that when President Trump is back in office, he has a network and infrastructure within the party to effectuate his agenda, instead of not only having to deal with the radical left, which he has to, but also not being stabbed in the back by members of his own party.

00:03:49.000 We want to change that.

00:03:50.000 We think that's unacceptable.

00:03:52.000 And so to get more of the America First National Populist candidates into office is our mission.

00:03:56.000 Right on.

00:03:57.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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00:03:58.000 What's up, guys?

00:03:59.000 Carter here.

00:04:00.000 Everything Tim Cass Music and Trash House pumped to be here.

00:04:02.000 What's up, Hannah Clear?

00:04:04.000 Hey, I'm happy to have you both here tonight.

00:04:06.000 I'm excited to see if this X Spaces works.

00:04:09.000 It's already making me nervous.

00:04:10.000 I'm Hannah Kluber.

00:04:11.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com.

00:04:13.000 That's Scanner News.

00:04:14.000 Hope you guys had a good weekend.

00:04:15.000 Let's get started.

00:04:16.000 I'm gonna unmute this.

00:04:18.000 And this is all we can hear right now.

00:04:20.000 So you want to pull this up, Serge?

00:04:22.000 The Spaces seems to be crashing already, so I'm really excited for this.

00:04:27.000 What you're hearing now is Trump's placeholder music, which is fun.

00:04:32.000 And you know, the thing is, because this isn't a live video stream at Spaces, normally what we do is we'll just have the video playing with it muted, and then once we see the video start, we can be like, okay, hey, it's starting.

00:04:45.000 If I mute this, Trump could start speaking at any minute and we have no idea.

00:04:49.000 So I have a feeling they're probably going to be late.

00:04:52.000 But this is historic.

00:04:54.000 Their description here is the big... Actually, let me just pull up the Team Trump Twitter post.

00:05:00.000 Are we going to get it right here?

00:05:01.000 This is the biggest interview in history, and now we're asking you to make President Trump's biggest fundraising day ever.

00:05:08.000 Before the interview is over, we're calling on 10 million patriots to donate any amount and proudly say, I stand with Donald Trump.

00:05:15.000 Well, I donated the maximum already.

00:05:17.000 I don't know about anybody else.

00:05:18.000 I'm not telling anybody else to do anything.

00:05:19.000 That's what they're saying.

00:05:20.000 That's pretty genius, but has anyone ever known Trump to be on time for any of his rallies?

00:05:25.000 Right.

00:05:25.000 No, I think he's typically late.

00:05:27.000 I'm surprised this is the music choice.

00:05:28.000 I love it.

00:05:29.000 I disagree profoundly, but I already made my case.

00:05:30.000 It's very relaxing.

00:05:31.000 we normally do. But if we hear Trump start talking, we'll bring it back up.

00:05:35.000 I'm surprised this is the music choice. I thought I love it.

00:05:37.000 I disagree profoundly. I already made my case.

00:05:41.000 So it's very relaxing. It makes you want to wait.

00:05:43.000 You know, the thing is, the last time I remember this kind of significant moment on

00:05:48.000 Spaces was when DeSantis announced.

00:05:51.000 Um, and...

00:05:52.000 And, you know, if you guys remember, that Spaces didn't go smoothly.

00:05:57.000 It crashed three or four times.

00:05:59.000 I think they had to relaunch it at one point.

00:06:01.000 And so it does make me a little bit nervous.

00:06:03.000 Not that I'm rooting against you, Elon, obviously.

00:06:05.000 Good luck with everything.

00:06:07.000 I'm just kind of a boomer and sort of technophobic.

00:06:09.000 So the fact that this is going to be so massive, and I don't know if the infrastructure is there, you know, if it crashes, you're going to see all these left-wing media headlines that are like, everything they do fails.

00:06:20.000 It's going to be so overdramatic.

00:06:22.000 We're already having people say they're unable to access it.

00:06:25.000 So yeah, I'm just going to mute the music.

00:06:28.000 I have no way to control volume on this thing.

00:06:33.000 Wait.

00:06:34.000 Is it happening?

00:06:35.000 Did you mute it?

00:06:36.000 Yeah, I did.

00:06:37.000 Well, don't mute it.

00:06:37.000 Just put it at like 10% or something so we can... It can't get any quieter than that?

00:06:41.000 It's as quiet as it goes.

00:06:43.000 It's what?

00:06:44.000 As quiet as it goes.

00:06:45.000 Oh, wow.

00:06:46.000 Like when it's normally, when they do live stuff on YouTube, you can like turn it down.

00:06:49.000 Yeah, people are already super chatting saying they can't get in.

00:06:53.000 You can see on the screen, if you want to pull this up, it's just, it's crashing.

00:06:56.000 It goes back and forth from listening to the details not available.

00:07:03.000 So I got in like literally, look at, holy crap, 4.3 million already.

00:07:07.000 And it's not working.

00:07:12.000 You think you would have learned from the DeSantis interview and how much of a disaster that was, maybe they'd prepare for this one.

00:07:17.000 I still have high hopes.

00:07:18.000 It's even bigger than I expected.

00:07:20.000 And that was, I mean, almost, what, two years ago?

00:07:23.000 Almost three at this point?

00:07:25.000 So I can understand where, you know, if you are the Trump campaign and the Musk team saying, you know, hey, things are better.

00:07:31.000 We've worked out some of the issues.

00:07:32.000 Spaces are such a regular part of activity on X at this point.

00:07:36.000 I mean, we have Josie, the red-headed libertarian who does stuff with Tim Cass there. 0.99

00:07:41.000 Maybe things are just better, but it makes me nervous.

00:07:45.000 Well, Elon invited him to do this interview.

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:47.000 Then he, I would think that he would have it, you know, set.

00:07:51.000 Elon's in the space.

00:07:51.000 Yeah.

00:07:52.000 It looks like, but it is not going.

00:07:57.000 I don't know what that little dot means.

00:07:58.000 Maybe this is one of Elon's son's bands and they're just playing it out so we can get this.

00:08:04.000 I feel like it's the same 30 seconds on loop.

00:08:06.000 No, there's still, there's some percussion that comes in.

00:08:09.000 Oh, okay.

00:08:09.000 I'm so glad we don't have a music consultant here.

00:08:13.000 Do you use Xs for any of your work?

00:08:15.000 Yes, we do.

00:08:16.000 Yeah, actually, we had a grassroots think tank a couple weeks ago talking about the GOP platform, and we had input from the grassroots.

00:08:24.000 It was over 5,000 viewers.

00:08:26.000 Roger Stone joined the space and everything.

00:08:28.000 A lot of people are saying they couldn't get in.

00:08:28.000 He's cool.

00:08:31.000 And, well, that's good.

00:08:32.000 So we're going to be... I'll just mute it for a second.

00:08:36.000 I mean, we're planning on doing light commentary on this.

00:08:41.000 You know, based on what they talk about.

00:08:43.000 But I suppose that works out for a lot of people who are actually unable to access it and you want to hear it.

00:08:47.000 So, you know, we can re-amplify that.

00:08:50.000 But it's, uh, it's late.

00:08:54.000 X is waiting music, not Trump's.

00:08:56.000 Oh, well.

00:08:56.000 Oh, really?

00:08:58.000 But it says, no, I don't think so.

00:09:00.000 It says Trump's speaking.

00:09:01.000 Yeah.

00:09:04.000 Yeah.

00:09:05.000 Hmm.

00:09:06.000 I just like at his rallies when he comes out to, you know, Proud to be an American or like some of these other songs.

00:09:12.000 Trump does have sort of a musical genre that I now associate with him.

00:09:15.000 I don't know if that's been any of El's experience.

00:09:17.000 Always get what you want.

00:09:19.000 Patriotic theme.

00:09:21.000 We do have this commercial that Trump posted, so while we're waiting we can talk about the return!

00:09:26.000 He's back!

00:09:28.000 Trump has returned.

00:09:29.000 The Washington Post says the revival of the former president's account on Axe offers him a bigger audience and also provides a boost for Elon Musk's platform.

00:09:37.000 Now the funny thing is, I don't know who said it, it might have been one of the Krasensteins, I don't know.

00:09:41.000 They said that, no, no, who was it, who was it?

00:09:44.000 Kyle Kalinske maybe?

00:09:45.000 Saying that incoming truth social lawsuit against Trump I don't know any Trump supporter who owns DJT stock is going to sue because he went on X. Maybe an institutional investor, but I doubt it.

00:09:59.000 He's the owner, and by going on X, he's basically abandoning a company which people invested in.

00:10:03.000 I'm wondering.

00:10:03.000 I'll check DJT.

00:10:03.000 Right. Yeah, he supposedly, well he's the owner and by going on X he's basically abandoning a company which people

00:10:09.000 invested in.

00:10:10.000 And so the stock, I mean I'm wondering, I'll check DJT right now.

00:10:13.000 Is there like a time limit on it though, maybe? Like for this amount of years I won't use Twitter?

00:10:18.000 That's what it was supposed to be, I think.

00:10:19.000 I think it's going to be tough, too, because they have to prove damages.

00:10:22.000 So by Trump going on to X, can they prove that that actually damaged Truth Social?

00:10:27.000 Right.

00:10:27.000 It feels a little thin to me, to be honest.

00:10:29.000 DJT is down 5% today.

00:10:32.000 I don't know if that even means anything or matters.

00:10:34.000 It's not huge, but it's not insignificant.

00:10:38.000 Rumble saw a big jump.

00:10:39.000 What did Rumble do?

00:10:41.000 I don't know.

00:10:41.000 Oh, and BuzzFeed jumped a lot.

00:10:44.000 Shout out to Vivek, I'm sure that was all you.

00:10:46.000 Yeah, did they like announce a partnership?

00:10:49.000 He just bought more socks and somebody's like, there we go.

00:10:51.000 That's it, man.

00:10:55.000 The thing is, by using a Spaces, and you're an actual lawyer, so tell me if I'm wrong here, but using Spaces, especially when you're invited on by Elon Musk, feels different than just going back to posting regularly on X. I mean, as far as I know, Truth Social doesn't offer this type of, you know... Yeah, there's a difference between using your account on X versus like you've been invited for an X Space.

00:11:16.000 It's gone.

00:11:17.000 It's not working.

00:11:17.000 I have a feeling they're going to relaunch and it's going to be just like with Ron DeSantis.

00:11:21.000 You got 110,000 people trying to get in.

00:11:24.000 It's numbers going down.

00:11:25.000 The space is not working and nobody can get in.

00:11:30.000 I'm seeing libs of TikTok can't get in.

00:11:31.000 Laura Loomer saying she can't get in.

00:11:33.000 Shane Cashman says having trouble logging in.

00:11:36.000 How long until Trump's like, it's such an exclusive event, people can't get in.

00:11:40.000 I just can't imagine they didn't have a contingency plan.

00:11:42.000 Glenn Beck is saying it crashed.

00:11:45.000 Spaces are down.

00:11:46.000 How many views does it have at this point?

00:11:48.000 They broke it.

00:11:49.000 They broke Twitter.

00:11:50.000 They have broken.

00:11:50.000 They broke X. Maybe this is good because that way he can be like, okay, join me now on true social.

00:11:55.000 Yeah.

00:11:55.000 Well, unfortunately, unlike Trump rallies, you can't say like people are watching from the outside.

00:12:00.000 They can't get in, but they're still watching.

00:12:01.000 Yeah.

00:12:03.000 It looks like it hit like 123,000 people, and now the number of people who are in it are leaving.

00:12:08.000 I wouldn't be surprised if they relaunched like what they did with ReSantis.

00:12:11.000 With ReSantis.

00:12:12.000 DeSantis.

00:12:16.000 I can't even tell. Right? Purple screen like that. It's made me think of when Kamala

00:12:20.000 had hers like bright green to like mock the or to mimic the brat cover.

00:12:24.000 All right. Well, uh, we should watch it. I wish they didn't have the music playing,

00:12:32.000 to be completely honest. Oh, you and me both, my friend.

00:12:34.000 Hmm. But I think probably because I just don't like it. And you guys are all right. Well, let's uh,

00:12:40.000 I'll keep an eye on if if it well, Well, just because with the music playing, it's fine.

00:12:46.000 Okay, look, Elon Musk just popped in.

00:12:52.000 Is there still no sound?

00:12:52.000 You turned the sound- He's muted, right?

00:12:54.000 Seems like he's muted himself.

00:12:55.000 Yeah.

00:13:05.000 Yeah, so I- I just mute- muted the tab.

00:13:08.000 Because if the music wasn't playing, we could leave it running.

00:13:10.000 Yeah.

00:13:11.000 Jump to any other article and then come back.

00:13:13.000 So, they're late.

00:13:14.000 They're very late.

00:13:16.000 And, uh, you know.

00:13:16.000 This is a way to mute just the music.

00:13:19.000 Oh, look at that.

00:13:20.000 Other people are seeing me in the top next to Elon Musk.

00:13:23.000 Look at that.

00:13:24.000 Well, I hope that's okay.

00:13:25.000 That's cool.

00:13:26.000 Right next to Donald Trump!

00:13:30.000 I'm gonna tell you guys, everyone is saying that it crashed.

00:13:33.000 That's it.

00:13:34.000 Congratulations.

00:13:36.000 There we go.

00:13:36.000 How about we do this?

00:13:39.000 I'm going to... 155,000 people currently in the room.

00:13:44.000 45,000 comments.

00:13:45.000 45,000 comments?

00:13:48.000 Can't open.

00:13:49.000 The app does not work.

00:13:52.000 Man, Kyle Kalinske's losing his mind.

00:13:55.000 He's getting so mad about everything.

00:13:57.000 It used to be so much more chill.

00:14:00.000 Yeah, it's crashed.

00:14:02.000 All right, we'll just jump to this story then, and then we'll come back as soon as it pops up.

00:14:07.000 We've got it running in the background.

00:14:09.000 The moment they start speaking, we'll get it.

00:14:11.000 But let's jump ahead.

00:14:13.000 We kind of get the idea on Donald Trump's return.

00:14:16.000 So this is one of the tweets that he posted.

00:14:18.000 Are you better off now than you were when I was president?

00:14:21.000 Our economy is shattered.

00:14:22.000 Our border has been erased.

00:14:23.000 We're a nation in decline.

00:14:25.000 Make the American dream affordable again.

00:14:27.000 Make America safe again.

00:14:28.000 Make America great again.

00:14:30.000 And then, uh, this is funny, Brian Krasenstein.

00:14:31.000 Hey, how about that?

00:14:33.000 Here he jumps in, and I don't care to read what he has to say.

00:14:35.000 But of course, he's the reply guy.

00:14:37.000 He's the reply guy.

00:14:39.000 Here's the big news around this.

00:14:40.000 Let's, uh, let's pull this one up.

00:14:42.000 How do you pronounce this guy's name?

00:14:43.000 Thierry Brayton?

00:14:44.000 Yeah.

00:14:45.000 Thierry is really... Thierry?

00:14:47.000 Yeah.

00:14:48.000 Uh, he's the commissaire European.

00:14:51.000 And it says, he released this letter, as there is a risk of amplification of potentially harmful content in the EU flag.

00:14:59.000 In connection with events with major audiences around the world, I sent this letter to Elon Musk.

00:15:04.000 Who wants to read this?

00:15:05.000 This ridiculous, long-winded, it's like, the only thing I can think is, what's that meme where it's like, I'm sorry this happened to you, or that's great, whichever, you know what I'm talking about?

00:15:17.000 It's called Too Long, Didn't Read.

00:15:18.000 Right, exactly.

00:15:19.000 TLDR.

00:15:20.000 TLDR. 0.96

00:15:21.000 But he's basically saying that, look at this long-winded garbage.

00:15:24.000 We have a law that says you can't misinform people, that not only means ensuring on one end the freedom of expression, blah blah blah, As you know, formal proceedings are already ongoing against acts under the DSA, notably in areas linked to the dissemination of illegal content, and the effectiveness of the measures taken to combat disinformation.

00:15:39.000 As the relevant content is accessible to EU users, and being amplified also in our jurisdictions, we cannot exclude potential spillovers into the EU, therefore we are monitoring for potential risks to the EU, blah blah. 0.96

00:15:49.000 Dude, shut your mouth. 0.98

00:15:53.000 Jeez. 1.00

00:15:54.000 Look at this long-winded garbage. 1.00

00:15:56.000 We get it. 0.99

00:15:57.000 Well, Elon Musk is slated to interview Donald Trump tonight.

00:16:02.000 I don't know if the president is going to tune in.

00:16:03.000 this for you.

00:16:23.000 I'll What role does the White House or the President have in sort of stopping that, or stopping the spread of that, or sort of intervening in that?

00:16:34.000 Some of that was about campaign misinformation, but it's a wider thing, right?

00:16:38.000 Yeah, no, and you've heard us talk about this many times from here, about the responsibilities that social media platforms have when it comes to misinformation, disinformation.

00:16:48.000 I don't have anything to read out from here about specific ways that we're working on it, but we believe that, that they have the responsibility.

00:16:57.000 These are private companies, so we're also mindful of that too, but... Yeah, blah blah, we get it, we get it.

00:17:04.000 Are we live yet?

00:17:06.000 Nope.

00:17:08.000 I mean, now they're 12 minutes late.

00:17:10.000 I mean, that's just a little bit too much, I gotta tell you.

00:17:12.000 But, you know, Trump's always late for rallies.

00:17:14.000 This is a bit different.

00:17:14.000 This is scheduled programming.

00:17:16.000 But there you go.

00:17:17.000 Outside of the EU letter, you've got journalists basically saying that what Elon is doing is basically wrong.

00:17:25.000 And in this article from The Guardian, as an ex-Twitter boss, I have a way to grab Elon Musk's attention.

00:17:30.000 If he keeps stirring unrest, get an arrest warrant.

00:17:33.000 It cannot be right that Musk can sow discord without personal risk.

00:17:37.000 He's a jet setter.

00:17:38.000 Perhaps fear of unexpected detention will concentrate his mind.

00:17:43.000 Well, they made the ministry of truth.

00:17:45.000 It didn't last too long.

00:17:46.000 Yeah, very reminiscent of that.

00:17:48.000 I mean, it's obvious that there is a bias in the way they're targeting Elon Musk.

00:17:52.000 They don't say this to other news broadcasters.

00:17:54.000 They don't say this to other people to say it to conservative leaning or people who are sympathetic to conservative causes in the U.A.

00:18:01.000 You in the EU and in America.

00:18:04.000 And I think this is something that people are going to get really sick of. 0.63

00:18:07.000 For me, it's, you know, the EU is sort of always been a monster.

00:18:11.000 The fact that they have decided that they are a coalition government, they get to tell each country how to live.

00:18:15.000 And in this case, they get to tell private private businesses that don't even aren't even based in their country.

00:18:22.000 We're going to monitor you and tell you how to operate because, you know, theoretically, a third of the users on X are based in Europe.

00:18:30.000 This seems the beginning of the dystopian end to me, but I don't know if you have any thoughts on it.

00:18:34.000 Right.

00:18:35.000 Yeah, as a lawyer, to hear that journalist ask, what's the roles of the White House in this disinformation, quote-unquote, is really appalling because the government should have no say in what's true or not as far as speech is concerned.

00:18:51.000 We did see the Biden administration having a say in that they were feeding Twitter executives what they should or shouldn't be deleting or censoring, but really that the government should have no role whatsoever in curtailing speech, whether they agree with it or not.

00:19:08.000 That's what they're trying to do here, though, is if it's speech that they disagree with, they don't like, well then the government should step in and stop it.

00:19:13.000 But if it's speech we like, even if others don't like it, it's okay because we like it.

00:19:18.000 Right.

00:19:19.000 If you're not saying the lines that we think are OK.

00:19:21.000 And I think especially so one of the things is the European Union commissioner had referenced the recent violence in the United Kingdom.

00:19:28.000 Right.

00:19:28.000 But we know that a lot of the mainstream media reporting on that is heavily biased.

00:19:33.000 Right.

00:19:33.000 Anyone who is protesting the presence of illegal immigrants within the UK, you know, they're racist and anybody who's against it is anti-racist.

00:19:43.000 So wait, actually, there's a lot more.

00:19:44.000 complexity and nuance that situation and so much of what this is saying is like

00:19:49.000 we have decided on a narrative and anyone who questions our narrative is a

00:19:53.000 threat to us and therefore we will do anything we can to restrict your speech.

00:19:56.000 Well yeah, in the EU it's basically if you're if you're against the EU and what

00:20:00.000 they want, you're anti-democracy, it's...

00:20:02.000 If you agree with them, then you're pro-democracy and you must crush the anti-democracy folks.

00:20:07.000 And so if there's a Muslim gang or riot, then we don't really report on that. 0.91

00:20:12.000 That's okay.

00:20:12.000 But if there's a quote-unquote far-right protest who's peaceful and they're just saying, hey, we don't really like what's going on, you can crush them and tell the police to stay out of it because they're anti-democracy.

00:20:22.000 And so to see the EU send this letter, a bunch of award salad, essentially, It's a big joke.

00:20:29.000 And it's to control American politics, right?

00:20:31.000 Elon Musk is talking to Donald Trump, who is running for re-election in America.

00:20:36.000 No one is asking Europe to be a part of this.

00:20:37.000 European listeners are not required to be a part of this space.

00:20:40.000 To then come in and say, like, well, we're going to pay attention and restrict this because we've decided you might upset people that we are trying to brainwash.

00:20:47.000 Like, be more transparent.

00:20:49.000 Unless I recall, we fought a war so that we don't have to care what Europe thinks about what we do.

00:20:53.000 It's pretty brutal 15 minutes in and I mean, I don't know if they're waiting for people.

00:20:58.000 Because people are trying to get in and can't.

00:21:00.000 There's apparently 200 plus thousand people currently watching live in this x-space.

00:21:06.000 Not to mention, there's a couple live streams on YouTube with 30 to 40k.

00:21:11.000 We've got 55k.

00:21:12.000 This may be one of the biggest live audiences for a political speech, if they're able to get it off the ground.

00:21:20.000 And not to mention, I'm assuming on Rumble too, they've got this rolling on a bunch of channels.

00:21:24.000 So we're just uh, we're just waiting as the thing glitches out.

00:21:27.000 Do we know what they're going to talk about?

00:21:28.000 Have they been specific in what their topics are?

00:21:31.000 I don't think so.

00:21:33.000 So does the EU letter come out as a like, stay away from certain things, don't talk about migration or anything we could deem hate speech?

00:21:39.000 Like, is this a warning shot to say stay away from certain topics we don't like?

00:21:45.000 That seems like it.

00:21:46.000 So it looks like what's happening is they're trying to add server space.

00:21:50.000 I don't know if this is correct, but people are noticing that it's hitting a wall like 120 and then starting to go down and then jumping up to 200 and so this may be that they're putting a hold on it for the time being as they try to expand server space to be able to get more and more people in.

00:22:06.000 I think they just need to go because we're 17 minutes in and this is getting a bit brutal.

00:22:12.000 A bit brutal.

00:22:13.000 So they haven't started yet.

00:22:15.000 It's not going somewhere and we're just not seeing it.

00:22:17.000 No, I mean this is it.

00:22:18.000 This music is it.

00:22:19.000 I'm going to place a bet.

00:22:20.000 I'm going to say 8.30 is when they'll actually start.

00:22:23.000 I wouldn't be surprised if part of their plan all along was to have a certain amount of, you know, delay time while the room fills up.

00:22:29.000 I mean, you know, I'm sure any major candidate would want to make a good entrance, right?

00:22:34.000 You don't want to enter a room and be the first one there.

00:22:36.000 On the other hand, you know...

00:22:40.000 How late are they planning to go?

00:22:42.000 And if it's already crashing right now, once you start... And I don't know anything about the technology behind this, but does that mean that at any point during the conversation we could get these kind of drops and delays?

00:22:53.000 Because that, to me, really fragmented the conversation.

00:22:57.000 Indeed.

00:22:57.000 I'm going to continue to vamp until this happens.

00:23:03.000 What do you want them to talk about tonight?

00:23:05.000 Alex Jones coverage crashed with 330 viewers.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, but you gotta understand about X, the X live streams don't track concurrent viewers.

00:23:12.000 So there's a huge difference.

00:23:14.000 When you see like, right now we've got about 60k, 50, 59,000 some odd.

00:23:19.000 On X, you'll see, this is what we did a multi stream of the debate.

00:23:23.000 And it said we had 750,000 and people were actually like, wow, look at it.

00:23:27.000 No, no, no, no, no, that the peak concurrence actually around 20 some odd thousand.

00:23:31.000 YouTube was like, I don't know, like 80 or 90 or something.

00:23:35.000 So, you know, some people think Elon did that intentionally.

00:23:40.000 Changed the live viewer count from concurrent viewerships to total viewership.

00:23:44.000 So it looks higher.

00:23:45.000 So it looks like it's much, much bigger, you know, relative.

00:23:48.000 Or he wanted a real-time view count.

00:23:51.000 You can make whatever inference you want.

00:23:53.000 But yeah, so 19 million views already, huh?

00:23:59.000 19 million?

00:23:59.000 Let's Whoever wrote that song must be so thrilled right now.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, 20.2 million views, and only a couple hundred thousand people are currently in.

00:24:09.000 And it looks like, yeah, Alex Jones, 341,000 total views on his livestream.

00:24:16.000 Carter, what kind of music would you have written for a prequel to a Donald Trump, Elon Musk interview?

00:24:22.000 Because this doesn't feel like Donald Trump to me.

00:24:24.000 Like, I get that it's kind of a fun elevator.

00:24:26.000 It does feel like X, though.

00:24:28.000 Oh, yeah, that's true.

00:24:29.000 X meets Trump, maybe.

00:24:31.000 It doesn't feel like Meets Trump to me.

00:24:32.000 It just feels like sort of tech world to me.

00:24:33.000 Trump would need like a guitar maybe, some kind of country theme to it, I think.

00:24:39.000 He loves playing Proud to be an American, and he loves playing Tiny Dancer.

00:24:42.000 Like something from the 90s or 80s, you know?

00:24:46.000 When he got in the Cybertruck with Aiden Ross, he picked California Dreamin'.

00:24:49.000 And I wholly, wholly endorse that selection.

00:24:53.000 That is a great song.

00:24:55.000 It is amazing how much of his campaign, you know, music is actually, I think, a big subtle part of his campaign.

00:25:01.000 There is a type of playlist you're expecting Trump to come out with.

00:25:06.000 Or maybe I'm just thinking that because Obama just released his summer playlist and I thought it was terrible.

00:25:10.000 There's one song I can sing.

00:25:12.000 We got a breaking update here.

00:25:14.000 Elon Musk has tweeted, for those that are just tuning in, we are currently waiting for the live interview with Donald

00:25:20.000 Trump and Elon to begin.

00:25:20.000 Elon Musk tweets, there appears to be a massive DDoS attack on X, working on shutting it down.

00:25:25.000 Worst case, we will proceed with a smaller number of live listeners and post the conversation later.

00:25:30.000 Wow.

00:25:32.000 Can't say I'm surprised.

00:25:34.000 The EU drafted a letter threatening Elon Musk.

00:25:37.000 Others have called for his arrest over this.

00:25:39.000 They do not want this interview to happen.

00:25:42.000 So it seems extremely likely that there is a massive distributed denial of service attack.

00:25:50.000 It's where they flood the website with requests.

00:25:52.000 It's the easiest way to explain it.

00:25:54.000 Actually, let me see if I can find a picture here to Find an image to help you understand what we're currently looking at.

00:26:03.000 Ah, yes.

00:26:04.000 I have an image here to help you explain what a DDoS is.

00:26:07.000 And it's basically, the way you want to visualize it is this, this is the door to Twitter, and all of these oversized novelty germs are trying to get in at the same time, and they can't.

00:26:18.000 That is effectively what a distributed denial-of-service attack is.

00:26:22.000 Shout out to Richie Jackson, if he's watching, as a Simpsons reference.

00:26:25.000 So that's basically what's going on right now, and that's why we're stuck.

00:26:30.000 I'm assuming, I think you are right, Mark, I bet in nine minutes they just say, let's roll the interview with what we have.

00:26:37.000 And then they're going to say, not that many people actually listen to Donald Trump and the live interview.

00:26:43.000 And this is a way to diminish the reach and the impact of what may be one of the biggest interview moments ever.

00:26:51.000 Definitely one of the most highly anticipated.

00:26:53.000 I think people really want to see direct conversations between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

00:26:57.000 And, you know, tomorrow you will see reports that this is a sign that Elon Musk is a, you know, bad, has bad leadership and Twitter, whatever, is falling apart under him.

00:27:07.000 And really, I don't think that's true.

00:27:09.000 This is going, you know, I hate to say, but any kind of technological issues or glitches in this interview are actually going to be both a comment on Trump's campaign, but also a referendum on Elon Musk for the mainstream media.

00:27:21.000 But it also shows that the globalists are terrified to hear this interview in the first place.

00:27:25.000 If it was a CNN interview, NBC, MSLSD, they wouldn't do anything.

00:27:30.000 They wouldn't say anything.

00:27:31.000 They wouldn't complain.

00:27:31.000 In fact, they would be cheering it on.

00:27:32.000 They'd say, yeah, we want to hear this.

00:27:33.000 We want to hear Trump sticking to him.

00:27:36.000 But this, Elon Musk, who's endorsed President Trump after the assassination attempt, interviewing President Trump, so two men of influence and power who support Christianity and the Western culture, being interviewed, you can't have that.

00:27:48.000 Right, because it's uncontrolled.

00:27:50.000 Exactly.

00:27:51.000 Yeah.

00:27:52.000 You know, the other question, I got to lean towards distributed denial of service tech.

00:27:56.000 Some people are saying that this is just, you know, liberals are saying Elon was unprepared.

00:28:01.000 It's not working because X can't handle it because Elon isn't good at this. 0.99

00:28:03.000 Kyle Kalinske said he's a moron or something like that. 0.98

00:28:06.000 And he doesn't know what he's doing. 0.99

00:28:07.000 But considering that the EU made this threat, you have to believe that there's powerful interests in various countries who are like, shut it down.

00:28:15.000 Elon's not going to be able to compete with that.

00:28:17.000 What I think they're trying to do With this event and Donald Trump, of course Team Trump has called for a big fundraiser.

00:28:24.000 I think they want to rival what they saw with white dudes for Kamala.

00:28:28.000 And what was the other one?

00:28:28.000 Was it women for Kamala or whatever?

00:28:30.000 Yeah, they had women's for Kamala.

00:28:31.000 I think they even had specifically women of color for Kamala. 0.99

00:28:34.000 What did they end up raising, like 10 million or some big number?

00:28:38.000 I think it totally looks like one of them raised like over 50 million.

00:28:42.000 50?

00:28:42.000 50 million.

00:28:44.000 On one stream?

00:28:44.000 I'll double check right now.

00:28:45.000 I don't think so.

00:28:46.000 Because I think they were like 9 or something.

00:28:49.000 But here's the thing, they kept saying that this was like they had 180,000 people join and I'm like, right, they're talking about concurrent viewership.

00:28:58.000 Like, that's just any big livestream.

00:29:00.000 Donald Trump's already well larger than that, and with over 20 million views, substantially larger than that.

00:29:08.000 So let's see if they can get to work, but in the meantime, I am willing to bet there are powerful interests, aligned with Democrats and other foreign actors, that are doing this intentionally to stop Donald Trump.

00:29:18.000 When you look at, let's just call it certain nonprofit organizations back in 2016 that were really interested and maybe even connected to the person running for president, the Democrat, a lot of money stopped getting donated to those nonprofits once Donald Trump won.

00:29:35.000 So there's probably a lot of financial interests that are tied up in this.

00:29:38.000 Don't know, don't care.

00:29:40.000 If Trump wins, they lose money.

00:29:42.000 And so what does that mean?

00:29:43.000 They're going to spend money to disrupt anything that might benefit Donald Trump.

00:29:46.000 So I'm not surprised that we're at this point right now.

00:29:50.000 No, I think people really are fearful of Donald Trump in what I think is a deeply irrational way.

00:29:56.000 But this is the reality of almost a decade of fear-mongering about Donald Trump.

00:30:02.000 When did he first announce his campaign?

00:30:05.000 In 2015.

00:30:06.000 And ever since then, it's like no matter what he does, it is the end of all times, even if it's good.

00:30:12.000 I mean, I'm sure we'll get to this later.

00:30:13.000 We got another update from Elon.

00:30:15.000 He says, we tested the system with 8 million concurrent listeners earlier today.

00:30:19.000 Wow.

00:30:20.000 Wow.

00:30:21.000 So the site is being attacked.

00:30:23.000 Ladies and gentlemen, let me say, for those that are watching live right now, witnessing history.

00:30:29.000 Man, you know, guys, I just want to tell you something.

00:30:31.000 This is so crazy.

00:30:31.000 It's like...

00:30:33.000 Here we are.

00:30:36.000 We are in it.

00:30:38.000 When you read the history books and you learned of the presidential debates in the early 1900s and the war, it felt no different to them than it feels to us right now.

00:30:50.000 We don't look at the war in Ukraine and with Iran and Israel as profound or impactful as, say, World War II and things like that, but it is all the same. 0.97

00:31:01.000 I mean, perhaps you might argue, no, World War II was way bigger.

00:31:05.000 Where they were at the time, when they were doing radio broadcasts and writing stories for Life Magazine perhaps, which we have all the copies of.

00:31:12.000 It's interesting to read those.

00:31:14.000 When they didn't know about D-Day, when they didn't know the U.S.

00:31:16.000 would get involved in World War II, when they didn't know that Hitler was going to expand or that there was going to be the Blitz and things like this.

00:31:22.000 They were sitting there having these conversations.

00:31:25.000 What you are listening to right now is exactly that moment that people will write about.

00:31:28.000 And here we are, three months out from the election, Elon Musk, the wealthiest guy on the planet, with one of the biggest social media platforms, talking to the frontrunner, and the website is currently under a cyber attack to shut down the conversation.

00:31:42.000 Welcome to history, ladies and gentlemen.

00:31:44.000 What more could I say to that?

00:31:47.000 Just that music.

00:31:48.000 This music will be in the historical record.

00:31:51.000 I know.

00:31:51.000 There's going to be some 10 year old kids 200 years from now.

00:31:54.000 And the teacher is going to be like, now here's a trivia question for bonus points.

00:31:59.000 Who can name the billionaire tech CEO who hosted the failed interview with frontrunner Donald Trump in the 2024 election just before the Second Civil War started?

00:32:10.000 I had to add that last part.

00:32:11.000 I think that there's going to be journalists who hear this music and are automatically sent back to this moment in time as they like rip their laptops and are like, please, I'm just trying to get a story out.

00:32:22.000 PTSD.

00:32:22.000 Well, when they mention the text billionaire, they're also going to say, who also is a Nazi sympathizer, by the way.

00:32:28.000 It's going to be crazy.

00:32:29.000 I mean, 10 years from now, and I do think, without being dramatic, this election will really say what course some of history is going to go in.

00:32:39.000 But I think some of the way that at least some progressive historians will look back on this moment is like, Yes, good job to those DDoS attackers who really prevented the worst moment in history.

00:32:48.000 They'll think that they have done good because there is such a fear around having these two people talk.

00:32:54.000 Again, to me, this is irrational and it's the production of fear mongering that's lasted over the last, you know, eight years.

00:32:59.000 But, you know, there are people who feel like there is justification in trying to prevent Trump from reaching a mass audience.

00:33:08.000 Yeah, you know, Elon says they tested it to 8 million concurrence, and I believe him.

00:33:14.000 Because after what happened with Ron DeSantis and Elon is running a business, he's not going to let this happen again, but some people are asking if he can just do a live stream and then broadcast that to X with what other people are doing.

00:33:28.000 But he's trying to make it a space.

00:33:30.000 Right, right, right.

00:33:32.000 I wonder what server is getting hit that's shutting down spaces.

00:33:36.000 That vulnerability, man.

00:33:38.000 I don't know what they could have done to mitigate it.

00:33:39.000 They should have done like a bait-and-switch where it's like, we're gonna be doing this live on Roma.

00:33:45.000 So what happens with Ron DeSantis is they launch that, you know, massive campaign event.

00:33:50.000 This is it.

00:33:51.000 Crashes.

00:33:52.000 So they relaunch it.

00:33:53.000 Everyone's gone.

00:33:55.000 Very, very unimpactful.

00:33:57.000 Threw everybody for a loop.

00:34:00.000 I have to imagine that Elon prepared for this.

00:34:04.000 So, I don't know what to tell you.

00:34:07.000 Elon is trying to make it a space.

00:34:08.000 They must be hitting him somewhere where he didn't expect it.

00:34:11.000 I don't know what you can do.

00:34:12.000 We can sit here and listen to this music.

00:34:14.000 We have 93,000 comments now.

00:34:17.000 That's crazy, right?

00:34:19.000 93,380 comments so far.

00:34:21.000 Only making the DDoS worse, probably.

00:34:23.000 Well, it's interesting, too, because people are probably refreshing and refreshing, trying to find this, hoping that in one second it'll be, you know, one refresh away from being live.

00:34:33.000 Yeah, they don't want to be the one to miss it, or if Elon Musk, you know, he said we're going to maybe do it to a limited number of live listeners, they're hoping that they get to be in.

00:34:43.000 Well, if this doesn't prove enough- Whoa, my app is freaking out.

00:34:46.000 We're in a political war.

00:34:48.000 I don't know what would convince conservatives of that.

00:34:50.000 I mean, assassination attempt, and now you can't even have an interview with Elon Musk.

00:34:55.000 The biggest free speech war in the tech industry.

00:34:57.000 We are obviously in a political war, and conservatives start acting like it instead of saying things like, no, the left means well, they just disagree with us.

00:35:03.000 No, they actually hate you, and they want to destroy you and censor you.

00:35:05.000 It's also interesting that you get this immediate contrast between the technology that conservatives and sort of this new emerging right-wing party in America is choosing to use versus the Democrats and Kamala Harris.

00:35:18.000 Elon Musk has announced they'll be proceeding at 8.30 Eastern, which is any moment.

00:35:24.000 And a lot of people are tweeting that we're able to actually just to get in.

00:35:28.000 So it's 8.30 now.

00:35:31.000 I don't know how much more of the music is 30 minutes of it.

00:35:36.000 What is this?

00:35:38.000 I'm going to hear this in my nightmares from now on, this music.

00:35:41.000 I don't know why, I'm just really not into it.

00:35:43.000 But just to finish my point, Kamala Harris has raised a lot of money by holding Zoom calls. 1.00

00:35:48.000 And at the beginning of COVID, Zoom was really criticized because it has ties to foreign governments or security concerns.

00:35:54.000 To China, I'm sure.

00:35:56.000 And so it is interesting that she's able to successfully use this platform that actually is somewhat controversial, although sewn into the fabric of a lot of people's daily online and business lives, whereas Trump is trying to use something that is based in America.

00:36:11.000 And, you know, he's being... Holy crap, ladies and gentlemen, there's 454,000 people in this space right now.

00:36:19.000 on x 450 559,000 people now live in the x space. 0.95

00:36:21.000 Holy crap.

00:36:22.000 159,000 people now live in the X space. 0.97

00:36:27.000 Holy crap.

00:36:28.000 This is like, I don't know, man, maybe the least amount of news we've discussed 0.97

00:36:36.000 on a show in a long time.

00:36:37.000 97,000 comments.

00:36:40.000 580,000, but you are witnessing internet history right now with Donald Trump, X Spaces.

00:36:48.000 They said they're gonna be 8.30, now they're still late.

00:36:50.000 But it looks like they solved some of the problem, and now the number's up to 580,000 people actively listening on this space.

00:36:57.000 Outside of the 75k we've got on YouTube.

00:36:58.000 Okay, we've got on YouTube, 614,000 now actively in the space.

00:37:03.000 Hope the music's public domain.

00:37:08.000 Looks like it's working.

00:37:10.000 On my app, I was able to easily get in.

00:37:12.000 You got in?

00:37:13.000 Here we go, baby.

00:37:14.000 650,000 now it says on the app.

00:37:15.000 Let's go.

00:37:15.000 100,000 comments.

00:37:16.000 100,000 comments, man.

00:37:16.000 What's the record for spaces so far?

00:37:19.000 100,000 comments.

00:37:20.000 100,000 comments, man.

00:37:24.000 What's the biggest, what's the record for spaces so far?

00:37:27.000 Does anyone know?

00:37:30.000 I'm pretty sure this is it.

00:37:33.000 Prior to this, what was the largest space?

00:37:36.000 685k is what it says on my app right now for active listeners.

00:37:41.000 They're going to hit over a million people.

00:37:45.000 Wow.

00:37:46.000 Tested for 8 million.

00:37:48.000 What if they get more than 2 million?

00:37:51.000 The current number is 710,000 concurrent listeners right now.

00:37:57.000 Wow, dude!

00:37:59.000 And we're just sitting here listening to this weird music.

00:38:03.000 710,000.

00:38:04.000 All right, let's go.

00:38:06.000 What's next?

00:38:07.000 Currently up to 738,000 viewers.

00:38:09.000 They added an extra beat to the music, so I think that means it's progressing along.

00:38:18.000 They said 830.

00:38:18.000 Right.

00:38:19.000 It's 833, guys.

00:38:22.000 Guys, we don't got all day.

00:38:23.000 Nah, we'll wait.

00:38:24.000 We wait for Trump and Elon Musk.

00:38:26.000 Any day, any day.

00:38:27.000 Especially considering a DDoS attack.

00:38:29.000 There's nothing wrong, they're just sitting there like... On the app, $7.59.

00:38:33.000 Let's crack a million, boys!

00:38:35.000 Maybe that's what they're waiting for.

00:38:35.000 Let's go!

00:38:36.000 They're like, we'll give it another minute, see if we get to a million.

00:38:39.000 I mean, Trump kind of built, like, the suspense by not being on X for two years.

00:38:44.000 Yeah, dude.

00:38:45.000 So it's like, oh, what was that loop?

00:38:49.000 It's Trump's triumphant return to X. History in the making.

00:38:56.000 Now, do you all think that Trump will use X moving forward?

00:39:00.000 Yeah.

00:39:00.000 He has to.

00:39:01.000 He has to.

00:39:04.000 I don't.

00:39:04.000 I think he's gonna, you know, hold out.

00:39:06.000 We might get a couple more posts more frequently.

00:39:08.000 780k.

00:39:08.000 But I don't- I honestly feel like he is unlikely to ever return to it the way he did before.

00:39:14.000 I think big posts maybe, but not regular.

00:39:15.000 Like we got a campaign video today.

00:39:17.000 We might get more of that.

00:39:18.000 He might give one or two comments here or there if something big happens.

00:39:21.000 But, you know, for the most part I think he'll stay on through social.

00:39:25.000 I think he'll be on next because he has to.

00:39:27.000 Well, yeah.

00:39:28.000 We say this, but, you know, he hasn't had to so far.

00:39:31.000 Yes, he has.

00:39:32.000 Well, he'll be on there.

00:39:34.000 When he did that press conference, yes, when he did that press conference and he was like, Kamala's not smart enough to do an interview. 1.00

00:39:40.000 And she's doing these huge rallies and her polls are going up.

00:39:43.000 And the only response from Trump supporters is it's all fake.

00:39:45.000 Don't listen to it.

00:39:46.000 I'm like, what?

00:39:48.000 The Trump campaign is certainly taking it seriously with this press conference.

00:39:51.000 And there's a reason why they're doing this interview now.

00:39:53.000 Trump's realizing he's got to pull back the press cycle.

00:39:57.000 He's got to be on X. But he's got a certain amount of nukes in his arsenal.

00:40:02.000 This was the biggest weapon he had.

00:40:03.000 The return to X right before... They were waiting for the right moment to make it big.

00:40:07.000 807,000.

00:40:09.000 Are we here?

00:40:12.000 809 on the Twitter app, it says.

00:40:14.000 But I stand by, like, you know, he may post...

00:40:18.000 More campaign stuff.

00:40:19.000 We might get press releases that come out on X. But the way Trump was on X when it was Twitter, you know, and sort of the casual access, I just don't see him ever coming back to it the same way.

00:40:29.000 What if he did?

00:40:30.000 Maybe he will.

00:40:31.000 Maybe he won't.

00:40:32.000 I do agree with you there, but I don't know if Trump understands that when he posted, the Coca-Cola company is mad at me.

00:40:37.000 That's OK. 0.99

00:40:38.000 I'll keep drinking that garbage anyway. 0.99

00:40:39.000 That's what people loved.

00:40:42.000 He's tried posting some memes, and some of the memes they've posted have not been that good.

00:40:47.000 So I think they need to understand, it was those tweets from Trump 12 years ago, where, what was it?

00:40:53.000 What was the other one that he had?

00:40:54.000 I've never seen a thin person drink Diet Coke?

00:40:56.000 Like, that's what we want! 0.99

00:40:57.000 He's like, I'm gonna keep drinking that garbage. 0.99

00:40:59.000 Well, that was the other one. 0.85

00:41:00.000 All right, so they turned the music off.

00:41:02.000 Thank goodness.

00:41:04.000 And we're currently at, let's see on the Twitter app, we've got 854,000 concurrent listeners.

00:41:14.000 This is wild.

00:41:16.000 This is absolutely wild.

00:41:18.000 Let's see.

00:41:19.000 Come on, ladies and gentlemen.

00:41:21.000 We're, we're waiting.

00:41:23.000 We're waiting.

00:41:25.000 Everybody's waiting.

00:41:27.000 All right, the number has gone up.

00:41:28.000 Trump has muted the music!

00:41:30.000 At any moment now, they're gonna start talking.

00:41:31.000 868,000.

00:41:32.000 Oh, yeah, I don't see Elon Musk in there.

00:41:35.000 I mean, now that it's big and it's working, he better not leave.

00:41:40.000 Charlie Kirk says the music has stopped.

00:41:42.000 Oh, thank goodness.

00:41:44.000 Sorry.

00:41:45.000 DDoS was combined.

00:41:47.000 In Europe, the commissioners who are running censorship are going like, make it stop!

00:41:52.000 No, it's like semi-techno dance music, right?

00:41:54.000 They're probably all, like, feeling relaxed.

00:41:56.000 They're like, maybe this isn't as bad as we think it's gonna be.

00:41:58.000 It's low-fi.

00:41:59.000 Maybe they're lighting up a joint.

00:42:00.000 They want a million.

00:42:01.000 They want a million.

00:42:02.000 They got 884,000 right now.

00:42:04.000 I think they want a million in there.

00:42:05.000 They want to be able to say they launched to a million concurrent listeners for the biggest political speech ever.

00:42:12.000 Are Trump and Musk together?

00:42:14.000 I know they're going to appear in the space together, but are we going to hear both their voices through Trump's profile?

00:42:20.000 I bet they are, and that's why… Because that might have been why Elon didn't have to stay in it.

00:42:26.000 894,000.

00:42:27.000 Because in that way, you get the sense that you really are getting an insight into a private conversation between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, which I think that would be really impactful.

00:42:38.000 So what's interesting too is… Sure, we can say that right now, checking again, 903,000 listeners concurrent in this space.

00:42:47.000 But don't forget, we've got 78K right now watching live on YouTube, waiting for this to kick on, who are going to be listening as well.

00:42:53.000 So that number is probably well over a million with all the other live streams combined.

00:42:57.000 This is over a million so far to hear Donald Trump speak.

00:43:00.000 And we are probably only two minutes away from this number cracking one million.

00:43:04.000 It's currently at 912,000.

00:43:05.000 I think they're going to wait for a million.

00:43:08.000 I think Donald Trump was like, I want a million people.

00:43:10.000 I think it'll happen at 8.55.

00:43:13.000 Yeah.

00:43:14.000 Whew.

00:43:15.000 I gotta tell you, for anybody trying to listen to this on iTunes and Spotify later, they're gonna be like, fast forward, fast forward, fast forward, what happened next, what happened next?

00:43:22.000 But that's the thing about livestreams, man.

00:43:24.000 We are currently in the historical moment.

00:43:27.000 So 919,000 listeners right now.

00:43:30.000 There's something interesting about live that you can't get on a podcast or a recording.

00:43:36.000 So when I used to go on the ground and film these big protest events...

00:43:42.000 Nothing's really happening.

00:43:43.000 What's really going on?

00:43:44.000 But you never know.

00:43:45.000 At a moment's notice, history could happen.

00:43:48.000 And that's the big difference here as we're sitting here absorbing the gradual increase.

00:43:53.000 We are now at 930,000 concurrent listeners.

00:43:55.000 Elon Musk is back.

00:43:56.000 We got 80,200 concurrent viewers on the YouTube alone.

00:43:59.000 Trump is muted.

00:43:59.000 Elon Musk is back.

00:44:01.000 We got 80,200 concurrent views on the YouTube alone.

00:44:05.000 That's it.

00:44:06.000 That's over 1 million with just this show and Elon Musk.

00:44:09.000 Congratulations to everybody listening for being a part of history.

00:44:13.000 Well, you said made me think of Alaud when he was here because he had been, he's our on the ground reporter for 942 News, and he had been on the ground at the Trump rally.

00:44:22.000 And he said, you know, I've covered a million of them and it seemed totally standard.

00:44:25.000 And so I saw that Joe Biden was about to speak in Pittsburgh.

00:44:28.000 So I left to go there because I thought I would see protesters, which means he just narrowly missed the assassination attempt.

00:44:34.000 I mean, 948.

00:44:35.000 This is the challenging call.

00:44:36.000 I think a lot of people who cover live events have to make.

00:44:39.000 They're at 950 right now.

00:44:42.000 I'm checking the X app.

00:44:43.000 It's different from what we see on the screen because of the lag on the browser.

00:44:47.000 But we are almost to 1 million concurrent listeners.

00:44:54.000 952,000, ladies and gentlemen, on X, waiting for Donald Trump to speak.

00:44:58.000 He's got a million people at a Trump rally right now with Elon Musk.

00:45:03.000 This is nuts!

00:45:05.000 I mean, I reference this all the time, but this year was described as the election was being held on a virtual battlefield.

00:45:11.000 So having a million people online is pretty wild.

00:45:15.000 Well, I heard Kamala Harris had millions at her last rally, so this is getting pretty close, but not quite.

00:45:20.000 Yeah.

00:45:20.000 I've heard she's really smart, and we're all going to get a great platform one of these days.

00:45:25.000 Except for the stuff she's borrowing from Trump.

00:45:27.000 Which is very popular.

00:45:28.000 She'll probably get over 81 million votes. 1.00

00:45:31.000 Maybe 90 million.

00:45:33.000 I want to see where the... Elon Musk said it's 830.

00:45:37.000 They're waiting for a million, aren't they?

00:45:39.000 That's what I feel like they're doing at this point.

00:45:41.000 They're waiting for a million.

00:45:41.000 My prediction is wrong.

00:45:43.000 That's okay.

00:45:44.000 I mean, he did give us an update at one point.

00:45:46.000 They said they were going to do it.

00:45:49.000 960K.

00:45:49.000 It's been at 960K for about a minute.

00:45:52.000 I can't even see a number anymore on my app.

00:45:55.000 961K.

00:45:56.000 We're seeing now on the website here.

00:46:00.000 My app just went down to 959, so this might be the upper limit.

00:46:06.000 They need to start speaking, otherwise people are going to start leaving.

00:46:08.000 It's 841.

00:46:08.000 It's pretty nice they call it Donald J. Trump space.

00:46:13.000 Donald J., yeah.

00:46:14.000 Fundraiser space.

00:46:17.000 Let's see where we're at.

00:46:19.000 Currently, has it gone up?

00:46:22.000 961.

00:46:23.000 961 seems relatively stable.

00:46:24.000 On the website, we see 965.

00:46:26.000 So, uh, any moment now, they're gonna start talking.

00:46:29.000 We hope.

00:46:31.000 I just, I think it's funny, like, Elon's probably watching this with Trump, and they're like, no, no, make him wait.

00:46:36.000 Don't, don't, don't talk yet.

00:46:39.000 I'm sure it's actually something substantially more innocuous.

00:46:42.000 Like, Trump's car was late.

00:46:44.000 Could be.

00:46:46.000 No, I think for sure it's the DDoS.

00:46:49.000 And they were like, we can't start because it's not working.

00:46:52.000 And so now that they did, now that they've got it, they should be going for it.

00:46:56.000 They should be going for it.

00:46:58.000 All right.

00:46:59.000 Hello, everyone.

00:47:00.000 So my apologies for the late start.

00:47:02.000 We unfortunately had a massive distributed denial of service attack against our servers and saturated all of our data lines.

00:47:15.000 Basically, hundreds of gigabits of data were saturated.

00:47:19.000 We think we've overcome most of that, and so it's now time to proceed.

00:47:25.000 But as this massive attack illustrates, there's a lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say.

00:47:38.000 But I'm honored to have this conversation.

00:47:40.000 I want to emphasize it's a conversation.

00:47:44.000 And it's really intended to just get a feel for what Donald Trump is just like in a conversation.

00:47:50.000 It's hard to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't hear them talk in a normal way.

00:47:57.000 And when, you know, when there's an adversarial interview, like, no one's themselves in an adversarial interview.

00:48:04.000 And this is really aimed at kind of open-minded, independent voters who are just trying to make up their mind.

00:48:16.000 And, uh, so you can understand, like, what, what is, uh, you know, what is it just like to have a conversation?

00:48:23.000 So, um, uh, Donald, great, great to, uh, to speak.

00:48:29.000 Um, we had a great conversation yesterday, as you mentioned yesterday, if we could just record that conversation and post it, it would have been excellent.

00:48:37.000 I hope we can have something like that today.

00:48:41.000 Well, I think we will.

00:48:42.000 I'm pretty sure we will.

00:48:43.000 And congratulations, because I see you broke every record in the book.

00:48:48.000 So many millions of people.

00:48:49.000 That's an honor.

00:48:50.000 We view that as an honor.

00:48:52.000 And then you do want silencing of certain voices.

00:48:56.000 Usually those are voices that have something to say that are constructive, oftentimes constructive.

00:49:02.000 And so we have to consider it an honor.

00:49:04.000 But congratulations on breaking every record in the book tonight.

00:49:08.000 That's great.

00:49:09.000 Well, thank you.

00:49:10.000 Um, well, maybe, uh, we could start off with, um, I mean, the assassination attempt, uh, which, uh, was an incredible thing.

00:49:21.000 And I have to say that, uh, you know, your actions after that assassination attempt were inspiring.

00:49:28.000 Um, you know, you, instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down, um, you were pumping your fist in the air and saying, fight, fight, fight.

00:49:36.000 And I think that's, I mean, you know, the President of the United States represents America.

00:49:44.000 And I think that is, that is America, that is strength under fire.

00:49:49.000 And so that's, you know, a big, you know, part of the reason why I was excited to endorse you as the President of the United States for having a term here.

00:50:04.000 That was just incredibly inspiring.

00:50:05.000 But I mean, what was it like for you?

00:50:10.000 Not pleasant.

00:50:11.000 I said it was I didn't know I had that much blood.

00:50:19.000 The doctors later told me that the ear is a place that is a very bloody place if you're going to get hit.

00:50:27.000 But in this case, it was probably the best alternative you could even think about.

00:50:32.000 Because it went at the right angle and, uh, you know, it was, uh, it was a hard hit.

00:50:37.000 It was very, uh, I guess you would say surreal, but it wasn't surreal.

00:50:41.000 You know, I was telling somebody you have instances like this or like a lot less than this where you feel it's a surreal situation.

00:50:50.000 And I never felt that way.

00:50:51.000 I knew immediately that it was a bullet.

00:50:56.000 I knew immediately that it was at the ear.

00:50:59.000 Yeah.

00:51:00.000 And because it, you know, it hit very hard, but hit the ear.

00:51:04.000 And I also heard people shout bullets, bullets, you know, get down, get down because I, you know, I moved down pretty nicely, pretty quickly.

00:51:12.000 And we had bullets flying right over my head after I went down.

00:51:16.000 So I'm glad I went down.

00:51:17.000 The bigger miracle was that I was looking in the exact direction of the shooter.

00:51:21.000 And so it hit, it hit me at an angle that was, uh, Far less destructive than any other angle.

00:51:27.000 So that was the miracle.

00:51:28.000 That was for those people that don't believe in God.

00:51:31.000 I think we got to all start thinking about that.

00:51:34.000 You have to, uh, you know, I'm, I'm a believer now.

00:51:38.000 I'm more of a believer, I think.

00:51:39.000 And a lot of people have said that to me.

00:51:41.000 A lot of great people have said that to me actually, but it was, uh, it was amazing that I happened to be turned just at that perfect angle.

00:51:49.000 And all because I put down a chart on immigration that showed that the numbers were so great.

00:51:55.000 I love that chart even more now.

00:51:57.000 Maybe it's a sign.

00:51:58.000 Maybe that's a sign.

00:52:00.000 It's an immigration sign. 0.80

00:52:02.000 You highlighted a serious issue at that moment.

00:52:07.000 The bullet missed your head.

00:52:12.000 Well, the amazing thing is that the sign, I said, bring down that sign on immigration.

00:52:19.000 It was literally about an eighth of a second where it would be good.

00:52:22.000 And after that, it was going to be a disaster no matter which, which way you were facing.

00:52:27.000 But it just had that, that perfect angle, which was exactly at this shooter.

00:52:33.000 Very sad situation, such a sad situation.

00:52:36.000 As you know, we lost somebody that was great.

00:52:38.000 Corey, a firefighter, a great gentleman, a great, a great Trumper.

00:52:44.000 He was a, a Just a fantastic family and a fantastic man.

00:52:48.000 And a friend of mine came up, Elon, and said, I'd like to give the family some kind of help.

00:52:56.000 And I said, that's great.

00:52:57.000 He said, do you mind?

00:52:58.000 I said, I don't mind at all.

00:52:59.000 And he wrote out a check for a million dollars, gave it to the wife.

00:53:02.000 And, you know, she said, this is really nice, but I'd rather have my husband back, which is a nice thing for somebody to say, to be honest.

00:53:10.000 She's great.

00:53:11.000 The family is great.

00:53:13.000 And we raised a lot of money for them, and for two other gentlemen who are unbelievable people also.

00:53:19.000 They were hit really badly.

00:53:20.000 They thought they were not gonna make it, and they did.

00:53:22.000 The doctors in the Butler area, I tell you, they were incredible.

00:53:27.000 They saved the two, and they were really hit tough, both of them equally.

00:53:33.000 And we thought, my first question was, because I heard bullets flying over me, and I said, how many people were killed?

00:53:39.000 Because we had a massive crowd there, a tremendous, Thousands and thousands of people and there was no land.

00:53:46.000 I mean, it was just, it was all people.

00:53:47.000 So I said, how many people have been killed?

00:53:50.000 Because I knew there were other shots being fired.

00:53:53.000 And they said, uh, we don't know yet, but some people have been badly hurt.

00:53:58.000 And, uh, I have to give the, a secret service sniper, they call them or sharpshooter, but sniper, because he didn't know there was a problem.

00:54:09.000 He's been, he's an extraordinary shot, obviously.

00:54:13.000 And he didn't know there was a problem.

00:54:14.000 And he was able to pick and roll out within five seconds.

00:54:17.000 And he used one bullet from very far away, I guess, probably about 400 yards.

00:54:22.000 The shooter was 130, but he was on the opposite side of the field and the podium.

00:54:29.000 And he saw the smoke and the flame from the gun, immediately recognized it, and immediately took a shot.

00:54:38.000 And it was one perfect shot from very far away.

00:54:41.000 And if he, if he didn't do that, Elon, he would have, I mean, if he would have a lot of people, a lot more people have been, could have been badly hurt and killed.

00:54:52.000 So I have to take my hat off to him because that's also a surreal, you know, he'd been with them for 23 years and he's never had anything like this.

00:55:02.000 And all of a sudden he has to act and it's a very tough thing to act and to be shooting somebody.

00:55:07.000 But he saw the, uh, He saw the gun, saw the smoke, saw the flame from the gun very far away.

00:55:13.000 I obviously has very good eyes.

00:55:15.000 He's got very good vision, which I assume you have to have in that particular work.

00:55:20.000 But he, uh, he took aim very quickly and it was, they say it was approximately five seconds from long range, one bullet.

00:55:28.000 If that didn't happen because the shooter had a lot of bullets, he had a lot of A lot of cartridges up there with him, so... I mean, that's clearly...

00:55:41.000 He was he was very competent in taking that shot to stop the the assassin the attempted assassination But but I mean that does seem to be I mean some pretty significant failings Elsewhere in the system like there's just no way that like how on earth does a shooter get on a roof 130 yards away That seems crazy I think most people like what people are wondering how that on earth could such a thing happen Well, you know, I view it as two ways.

00:56:09.000 There should have been nobody on the roof.

00:56:11.000 There were people because there were so many tens of thousands of people there.

00:56:15.000 There were people that were seeing him.

00:56:18.000 And there was one woman with a red shirt and Trump all over it. 1.00

00:56:24.000 And she's screaming, and that guy's got a gun.

00:56:27.000 You know, you saw it probably.

00:56:28.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 It's like, I'm just, I'm just, I guess, I mean, fine for my part, and I think probably Many members of the public are wondering how the heck are, you know, basically people wondering by pointing out there's a guy on the roof with a gun.

00:56:46.000 Yeah.

00:56:48.000 They're seeing it, but somehow it's not being addressed.

00:56:53.000 That does seem crazy.

00:56:54.000 Well, they're going to learn from this.

00:56:56.000 The communication between the local police who sort of Had an idea, then ultimately, a man lifted himself up to the roof, could barely do it because, you know, he was pulling himself up.

00:57:08.000 And he saw the man with the gun.

00:57:12.000 The man with the gun pointed the gun at him.

00:57:13.000 He thought he was probably going to get shot.

00:57:17.000 But, you know, he was like pulling himself up.

00:57:20.000 And because of that, he couldn't get to his gun.

00:57:23.000 And he fell down, actually very badly hurt his leg, his ankle.

00:57:29.000 I hear very badly, but he fell down and he did, you know, from what I understand, he did say there's a guy up there with a gun.

00:57:37.000 And the, the shooting started very quickly after that.

00:57:40.000 I think it, I think it forced the shooter to go maybe quicker.

00:57:44.000 You know, you're supposed to be a very good shot.

00:57:47.000 My sons, Don and Eric, they, they can't believe what happened, but they said from 130 yards, A bad shot would hit that target almost every time.

00:57:58.000 They said it's like in golf, sinking a two-foot putt.

00:58:02.000 Yeah, it's not a tough shot.

00:58:04.000 It's not a long shot.

00:58:05.000 Also, people say it sounds like he has a lisp.

00:58:08.000 It's a slush, not a lisp.

00:58:10.000 It's an impression issue, it sounds like.

00:58:13.000 It was a terrible thing.

00:58:16.000 Look, it's hard.

00:58:19.000 I have to say this about the Secret Service.

00:58:21.000 When I went down, And, you know, I went down based on, I think, their screaming.

00:58:27.000 But other people also, because people saw this happen.

00:58:29.000 You know, you had so many people.

00:58:31.000 One of the miracles was that nobody ran.

00:58:33.000 I mean, if a gun goes off, the crowd control people showed us this.

00:58:39.000 When guns go off, and it does happen in stadiums at a soccer match or some kind of a match, everybody flees.

00:58:45.000 They call it a stampede, like cattle.

00:58:48.000 And a lot of people get killed with those stampedes.

00:58:50.000 We had more people than you'd have at You know, some of these matches or these games and, uh, nobody left, you know, you had a small group behind us in the grandstand and that was full and you look at it as it was taking place.

00:59:06.000 And normally they'd be running.

00:59:08.000 They didn't leave.

00:59:09.000 They saw that I was hurt.

00:59:11.000 They saw a lot of blood and they saw that I went down and it's almost like they wanted to be with me.

00:59:17.000 Well, out front, You had thousands, tens of thousands of people.

00:59:21.000 As far as the eye could see, you had people in Butler.

00:59:24.000 As far as the eye could see.

00:59:27.000 And a lot of press, too.

00:59:29.000 You know, many cameras on watching this.

00:59:31.000 It's what makes it so different, because normally things happen that aren't good, but you never have a picture of it.

00:59:37.000 Here we have all these cameras shooting it.

00:59:40.000 So, uh, you know, sort of amazing.

00:59:42.000 But one of the interesting things was that you didn't have anybody flee.

00:59:46.000 You didn't have anybody stampede.

00:59:48.000 Nobody.

00:59:49.000 And there were some people behind me, they stood up and they're looking like, you know, I mean, I'll tell you, you want to have, you want to have them in a foxhole with you.

00:59:55.000 I want to meet some of those people because it's so different from what you heard.

00:59:59.000 But so, so I was down, but the secret service guys, there were bullets flying right over my head.

01:00:05.000 You could hear him go whizzing.

01:00:06.000 And these guys, Came jumping on top of me and a young lady, Kate, would jump. 1.00

01:00:16.000 They moved so fast.

01:00:17.000 And let me tell you, that took tremendous courage.

01:00:19.000 Now there was a lack of coordination.

01:00:23.000 There was, you know, obviously everybody understands that somebody, that building should have been covered.

01:00:29.000 Yeah.

01:00:30.000 I mean, looking at the aerial views, that building would be like the number one spot for a sniper.

01:00:36.000 I mean, it's like, If you were to pick, like, what is the favorite place?

01:00:40.000 So if the goal is to assassinate, what's your favorite spot?

01:00:43.000 That building.

01:00:44.000 That building would be number one.

01:00:45.000 That would have been the spot.

01:00:46.000 It's like, you can ask for a better location.

01:00:48.000 No, that would have been the spot.

01:00:50.000 You know what people think is when the local policeman, who by the way, you know, he really, he did what he was supposed to do.

01:00:59.000 He couldn't hold on any longer.

01:01:00.000 And then when he got his head just peeking above, this guy standing there with a gun at his head.

01:01:07.000 When he fell down again, hurt his ankle very badly, but he was making the calls.

01:01:11.000 But what happened is the firing took place very soon.

01:01:14.000 So what they think is that this guy ran to his site, which he had all planned out with a gun.

01:01:20.000 Uh, he ran to the site and he started shooting fast and maybe that's why he, uh, well, he sort of missed.

01:01:29.000 I mean, you know, he, uh, it could have been, um, could have been a much bigger problem.

01:01:38.000 But he totally would have hit if you hadn't turned your head.

01:01:42.000 It was a very near thing.

01:01:44.000 It was a miracle.

01:01:45.000 If I hadn't turned my head, I would not be talking to you right now, as much as I like you.

01:01:49.000 Exactly.

01:01:50.000 I would not.

01:01:51.000 I would not be talking to you.

01:01:53.000 Sounds like a dental referral.

01:01:55.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:01:56.000 We'd be talking from a different place.

01:01:59.000 That was very generous.

01:02:00.000 You know, it was a very terrible experience.

01:02:03.000 The Butler Hospital, they did such a great job.

01:02:07.000 The doctors were so good.

01:02:08.000 Everybody was so good.

01:02:10.000 There was a mistake.

01:02:12.000 If, if somebody knew, cause people were hearing that, you know, there was just a bad feeling that there was somebody was around, you know, that story now it's been.

01:02:20.000 And if somebody could have said, cause they've oftentimes said, you know, like it'd be a lightning storm or something.

01:02:20.000 Yeah.

01:02:25.000 Cause I've done, I think over 300, I think I did a lot more than that, but we did a lot.

01:02:30.000 And oftentimes they'll say, sir, could you wait 10 minutes, please, sir?

01:02:33.000 Could you wait 20 minutes?

01:02:34.000 There's a storm overhead or lightning or something.

01:02:37.000 Right.

01:02:38.000 And that happens often.

01:02:39.000 And this would have been a perfect time for that to have happened, but it didn't.

01:02:43.000 It didn't get coordinated.

01:02:45.000 that was the problem.

01:02:47.000 Any reporting on this space is going to have to be by the assistants.

01:02:51.000 I think your actions in the heat of fire and you know, like what I find admirable there was that you can't fake

01:03:01.000 bravery under such circumstances.

01:03:03.000 The courage is instinctual or it is not. It's not a rehearsed action.

01:03:06.000 And so I just want to say that I think a lot of people admire your courage under fire there.

01:03:11.000 And yeah, so...

01:03:12.000 Thank you very much.

01:03:13.000 I appreciate it.

01:03:14.000 I didn't I don't think I didn't think of it I just want to get up and I want to stand up.

01:03:19.000 I want to let people know, you know, I felt I was good when when they were Uh, on top of me covering me actually very much covering me and very bravely.

01:03:28.000 But, uh, I wanted to get up.

01:03:30.000 I said, I want to get up.

01:03:31.000 And, uh, they wanted, you know, they had, they have everything there.

01:03:35.000 They have, they wanted to stretch you.

01:03:37.000 I didn't like the stretcher and I knew I was hit in the ear, but I knew I wasn't hit anywhere else.

01:03:41.000 They felt I was hit someplace else.

01:03:44.000 It was such a lot of blood.

01:03:46.000 And they were sure that I was hit someplace else and they were saying, sir, what you, you, you were hitting more than the year.

01:03:52.000 I said, Nope, I was hit in the year.

01:03:53.000 I want to get up.

01:03:55.000 And so we, I got up and the crowd didn't know what to think.

01:03:55.000 Let me get up.

01:04:00.000 I mean, this was so, so many people and they did, you could see they were confused.

01:04:04.000 They didn't know what to think.

01:04:06.000 And.

01:04:07.000 I wanted to let them know I was okay.

01:04:09.000 It was very important for me to let them know that.

01:04:12.000 And they went wild.

01:04:13.000 You've seen the after they didn't go wild when I got up because they didn't know, was I alive?

01:04:19.000 You really couldn't tell when I stood up before the hand, before the, you know, the fist in the air, uh, they didn't know if I was alive.

01:04:28.000 Nobody did.

01:04:30.000 And, uh, when I put the fist up, they were, they were just, Relieved and happy and thrilled and the place went crazy.

01:04:40.000 It was pretty amazing.

01:04:41.000 It was a, it was a terrible thing, but it was incredibly moving.

01:04:45.000 Yeah.

01:04:46.000 Um, well, and I mean, speaking of the, the, the, the, the sort of slide that got you to turn that.

01:04:53.000 uh, saved her life really, uh, was the illegal immigration, uh, slide. Maybe this, maybe

01:04:59.000 this is worth talking about, about that. It was, it was that slide. That's why the illegal

01:05:06.000 immigration saved my life. You're right. But it would be at that exact angle. 1.1 million.

01:05:12.000 That's actually very well saved by illegal. You know, the, the incredible thing though,

01:05:16.000 when you talk about the odds, you had to be exactly at that angle. But, but the incredible

01:05:22.000 thing is that the chart I used it less than 20% of the time.

01:05:27.000 It was just a moment.

01:05:28.000 It's always on my left, never my right.

01:05:30.000 And it's always at the end of the speech.

01:05:33.000 So here we have it.

01:05:35.000 It's on the right, not the left.

01:05:37.000 It's at the beginning, not the end.

01:05:39.000 And even the people that put it up, they were unprepared and they did a great job.

01:05:43.000 They got it up immediately, fortunately.

01:05:45.000 But I looked to the right and the bullet hit him whizzing by, hitting my ear.

01:05:52.000 So it was amazing.

01:05:53.000 But when you think of the odds of that and, you know, that normally you wouldn't use it, normally I wouldn't have the thing.

01:06:01.000 And then, you know, it would have been a very different story.

01:06:03.000 It's very much, I say, an act of God.

01:06:08.000 It's a miracle that it happened.

01:06:10.000 And I'm honored by it.

01:06:13.000 I'm honored by it.

01:06:15.000 Well, what were you about to say about illegal immigration before you were rudely interrupted?

01:06:22.000 Well, I was going to say how good the numbers were.

01:06:24.000 By the way, we're going back to Butler and we're going to go back in October.

01:06:29.000 We're all set up and the people are fantastic in Butler.

01:06:32.000 It's a great area.

01:06:34.000 These are incredible people.

01:06:37.000 Like the three that in the case of Corey killed and the other two, the families, I got to know them a little bit.

01:06:44.000 Families are great, but we're going back to Butler and I think I'll probably start by saying as I was saying So horribly interrupted, yeah, but yeah, so really interrupted by it.

01:06:59.000 Yeah Some people have a lot on the chart was just a chart that in my last week we had the best of Illegal immigration numbers, meaning stopping. 0.98

01:07:13.000 You've seen the chart.

01:07:13.000 It was at the lowest.

01:07:14.000 It's become quite a famous chart.

01:07:16.000 But that was the lowest point ever recorded.

01:07:20.000 It was a really, I mean, I was very proud of those numbers.

01:07:24.000 And then you see what happened with these people.

01:07:26.000 Kamala and Joe, you see what happened.

01:07:30.000 They just let it go.

01:07:31.000 I had remain in Mexico policies.

01:07:34.000 I had all these different policies that was so good.

01:07:38.000 Guys like Tom Holman and Brandon Judd from Border Patrol.

01:07:42.000 All these are all people that they've been on television.

01:07:45.000 It says the best numbers we've ever had.

01:07:47.000 We had so many different checks catch and release in Mexico, not the United.

01:07:51.000 We had catch and release in the United States.

01:07:53.000 We had it in Mexico.

01:07:54.000 We had so many things we had.

01:07:57.000 Things where if people, many people come in there, they have contagious diseases.

01:08:02.000 We had everything passed.

01:08:04.000 If you have a contagious disease, I'm sorry, but we can, we cannot allow you into the country. 1.00

01:08:09.000 So we were setting literally records and, uh, I, all I was doing is showing that and I, I use it sometimes.

01:08:17.000 And in this case, I'm glad I used it.

01:08:19.000 I can tell you that.

01:08:20.000 But, but, They were fantastic numbers, but I'm going to sleep with that chart always.

01:08:25.000 I'm going to, I'll be sleeping with that chart.

01:08:27.000 That chart was, uh, was very important.

01:08:31.000 Very important for a lot of reasons.

01:08:33.000 I mean, would it be accurate to say that you're supportive of legal immigration, but we obviously need to shut down illegal immigration, and especially unvetted illegal immigration? 0.96

01:08:46.000 And that's not the same as saying that everyone who is an illegal immigrant is bad.

01:08:51.000 In fact, I think most people who are illegal immigrants are actually good, but you can't tell the difference unless there's a solid vetting of who comes across the border. 1.00

01:09:02.000 I say it very simply.

01:09:02.000 100%.

01:09:05.000 They have to come in legally.

01:09:07.000 They have to be checked.

01:09:09.000 Because look, Kamala was the border zone.

01:09:12.000 Now she's denying it.

01:09:13.000 Everything that I do, she's saying she was strong on the border and we're going to be strong.

01:09:18.000 Well, she doesn't have to say it.

01:09:20.000 She could close it up right now.

01:09:21.000 They could do things right now.

01:09:23.000 It's horrible.

01:09:25.000 No tax on tips.

01:09:26.000 And all of a sudden she's making a speech and saying there will be no tax on tips.

01:09:30.000 I said that months ago.

01:09:31.000 And by the way, they had just the opposite.

01:09:33.000 You know, they had not only tax on tips, but they hired 88,000 IRS agents.

01:09:40.000 And many of them were assigned to go get waitresses and caddies and all of this on tips.

01:09:46.000 They have a policy that we're really going to go after you.

01:09:49.000 And we're really harassing people horribly.

01:09:52.000 And then all of a sudden for politics, she says, you know, she comes out with with what I said.

01:09:57.000 Which I think is terrible, and I think it's also hitting them very hard.

01:10:00.000 No one believes you.

01:10:00.000 These people are fake.

01:10:02.000 Now they're also saying they did a good job in the border.

01:10:04.000 We had the worst numbers in the history of the world, not of our country.

01:10:07.000 There's never been a country in history that has had a catastrophe like this.

01:10:12.000 We've had, I believe, and I think you believe this too, you know, you hear 12 million, 13...

01:10:17.000 I believe it's over 20 million people came into our country, many coming from jails, from prisons, from mental institutions, or a bigger version of that is insane asylums, and many are terrorists. 0.94

01:10:31.000 And I'll tell you what, they're coming not just from South America, they're coming from Africa, they're coming from all over the world, they're coming from Asia, they're coming from the Middle East, they're coming from countries that are stupidly and horribly Bombing Israel, October 7th. 0.96

01:10:49.000 They're coming from all over the world. 0.90

01:10:52.000 It's so sad, October 7th, because it should have never happened.

01:10:56.000 It's so sad when you look at Ukraine.

01:10:58.000 It should have never happened.

01:11:00.000 We have a defective government. 0.96

01:11:01.000 These are defective people.

01:11:03.000 And they're not people that should be running it.

01:11:05.000 But where you see it the best is the border.

01:11:07.000 Because you have millions of people coming in a month.

01:11:12.000 And then she gets up and she tries to pretend like She's going to do something.

01:11:16.000 She had three and a half years.

01:11:18.000 And by the way, they have another five months that they can do something, but they won't do anything.

01:11:23.000 It's all talk. 0.99

01:11:24.000 He's incompetent and he's incompetent. 1.00

01:11:26.000 And frankly, I think that she's more incompetent than he is. 0.99

01:11:30.000 And that's saying something because he's not too good.

01:11:33.000 Just a quick fact check.

01:11:34.000 Biden had a plan to increase taxes on tips?

01:11:37.000 You have a secure border.

01:11:38.000 I mean, you're really not a country unless you have a secure border.

01:11:44.000 And secure elections, too.

01:11:47.000 Absolutely secure elections.

01:11:48.000 And so it's just essential to have a real border or we can't function as a country and our services, you know, our central services are being overwhelmed in a lot of cities.

01:12:00.000 And, but I, as we were talking about earlier, I think having a legal immigration process that is smooth and efficient and done well.

01:12:11.000 And I, you know, speaking as someone who is a legal immigrant and I mean, one way to think of it is, who do you want on your team?

01:12:21.000 Who do you want on Team America?

01:12:24.000 And I think we want to just say, okay, we want to let in people who are going to be great contributors to our

01:12:35.000 society and to our economy.

01:12:38.000 And who do you want on the team?

01:12:40.000 And it's not to say that, in my opinion, I'd say probably most of the illegal immigrants

01:12:47.000 actually are good, hardworking people.

01:12:51.000 That's my opinion.

01:12:53.000 But some are not.

01:12:55.000 And you just have this sort of adverse selection process where.

01:13:00.000 you know if somebody's You know if somebody's like You know, um, has a career in, in theft or robbery.

01:13:10.000 Um, I don't understand what's taken them so long to get here.

01:13:14.000 Um, because we are such a target rich environment.

01:13:18.000 Um, I mean, you know, why aren't they, why aren't more people who have a career in, you know, bad things coming here sooner?

01:13:27.000 Because it's, I mean, it's a piece of cake to go Rob, uh, you know, has in, uh, LA or New York, uh, compared to other parts of the world.

01:13:36.000 And in a lot of places in America, if you try to stop the person who's robbing you, you'll be arrested.

01:13:46.000 It's right.

01:13:47.000 I mean, what's happening with crime and our police is so good, but they're not allowed to do their job.

01:13:52.000 But I have to tell you, Ilana, I hate to say it because it's such a downer to say it.

01:13:56.000 I hate to say it.

01:13:57.000 I hate it.

01:13:58.000 But 1.2 million.

01:14:00.000 You have a lot of people that just shouldn't be.

01:14:02.000 I think it's a much bigger number than you think.

01:14:04.000 They're allowing, again, they're allowing people from their jails.

01:14:07.000 And if you were running one of these countries where they're coming from, you would have had all of them. 0.99

01:14:12.000 As an example, Venezuela, their crime is down 72 percent.

01:14:17.000 They're taking their drug dealers.

01:14:19.000 They're taking, frankly, their prisoners.

01:14:21.000 They're emptying out their prisons.

01:14:22.000 They're taking their criminals, their murderers, their rapists, and they're delivering them into- That's what Castro did.

01:14:30.000 Yeah, well, he did, on a much smaller scale.

01:14:32.000 It was a much smaller scale.

01:14:34.000 But this is a massive scale, because this is being done worldwide.

01:14:37.000 But here's what's happening.

01:14:39.000 Crime, all over the world, is down.

01:14:42.000 And wait until you see the numbers that we have.

01:14:45.000 You know, this is migrant crime. 1.00

01:14:46.000 This is crime that's going to be- And I saw it today in New York, where somebody was knifed Where they raped the girlfriend of a man that stood there watching in New York in one of the shelters and started pulling out the knives and bad things happened today.

01:15:02.000 But this is happening every day.

01:15:03.000 These are rough people.

01:15:05.000 These are people that are in jail for murder and all sorts of things. 0.99

01:15:08.000 And they're releasing them into our country and they're telling them, if you come back, we're going to kill you. 1.00

01:15:13.000 We're going to give you the death penalty or kill you. 0.99

01:15:15.000 So they don't want to come back. 1.00

01:15:16.000 But these are rough people.

01:15:18.000 These are criminals that make our criminals look like nice people.

01:15:21.000 And it's horrible what they're doing.

01:15:23.000 And she's in charge of it because, you know, now she's trying to say she had nothing to do with it.

01:15:28.000 And she's such a liar because she was called the Bordezar the first day and it was on the headlines of every newspaper. 1.00

01:15:34.000 She's the Bordezar. 0.97

01:15:35.000 And she never even went there.

01:15:36.000 She went to one location which had nothing to do with where the problem is.

01:15:40.000 You know, she went in and out, I guess, because she was getting a lot of pressure.

01:15:44.000 Yes.

01:15:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:15:44.000 where the problem is.

01:15:45.000 Yeah.

01:15:46.000 But she was the Bordadar, and people can't allow them to get away

01:15:50.000 with their disinformation campaign.

01:15:52.000 Now she's trying to say that she wasn't really involved.

01:15:57.000 And the whole thing is horrible.

01:16:00.000 She was totally in charge.

01:16:02.000 She could have shut the border down without him.

01:16:04.000 He didn't know what he was doing anyways.

01:16:06.000 He wouldn't have even known what happened.

01:16:07.000 It's simply not working.

01:16:08.000 down, he wouldn't even know the difference.

01:16:10.000 But the fact is that she was, borders are, but you don't have to call her that.

01:16:16.000 The fact is you could just call her, she was in charge of the border and the border was

01:16:20.000 the worst ever.

01:16:23.000 It's simply not working.

01:16:24.000 No, it's horrible.

01:16:25.000 Whether it's by, whether it's by, whether it's a question of, of intention or competence,

01:16:32.000 either way, we, we, we don't have a secure border and we have people streaming over like

01:16:37.000 it looks like a World War Z zombie apocalypse at times.

01:16:41.000 And you know, sometimes you, you, you, you got to sort of wonder like, is it real or

01:16:45.000 not?

01:16:46.000 So I, you know, cause you see things and you're like, is it real?

01:16:48.000 I saw, I went to the border at Eagle Pass and I saw for myself in Texas and I was like,

01:16:53.000 Okay.

01:16:53.000 It's real.

01:16:54.000 I'm like seeing this in real time.

01:16:55.000 I actually posted the video like just live.

01:16:57.000 I just, I just flew there one day and just to see, Hey, is this made up or real?

01:17:02.000 And I'm just seeing people stream across the border.

01:17:05.000 And, um, and I have to say, you know, at least the people that I saw did not look friendly.

01:17:10.000 Um, you know, look at my video and say, Hey, you know, these people look friendly.

01:17:15.000 I don't look super friendly.

01:17:17.000 So these are people that Elon would not be the same man.

01:17:20.000 If he had to walk across the street and look these people in the eye, these are rough people.

01:17:24.000 These are really rough people coming across.

01:17:27.000 And I know rough people. 1.00

01:17:28.000 And these are people that we don't want in our country.

01:17:31.000 And you know, the caravans are coming in and they're putting, and who's doing this is the heads of the countries.

01:17:37.000 And you would be doing it.

01:17:39.000 And so would I. And everyone would say, oh, what a terrible thing to say.

01:17:42.000 The fact is it's brilliant for them because they're taking all of their bad people, really bad people.

01:17:48.000 And I hate to say this, The reason the numbers are much bigger than you would think is they're also taking their nonproductive people.

01:17:56.000 Now, these aren't people that will kill you.

01:17:59.000 We have enough of them.

01:18:00.000 But these are people that are nonproductive.

01:18:03.000 They are just not productive.

01:18:04.000 I mean, for whatever reason, they're not workers or they don't want to work or whatever.

01:18:09.000 And these countries are getting rid of nonproductive people in the caravans in many cases.

01:18:15.000 And they're also getting rid of their murderers and their drug dealers and the people that are really brutal people.

01:18:21.000 And they're coming into our country at levels that have never been seen before.

01:18:25.000 And I saw an ad just before I got on the air.

01:18:28.000 I'm walking over here and I saw an ad by Kamala.

01:18:32.000 saying how she is going to provide border security.

01:18:36.000 Where has she been for three and a half years?

01:18:38.000 For three and a half years.

01:18:39.000 Yeah, no, no.

01:18:40.000 The opportunity to have 20 million people borders.

01:18:42.000 It's a terrible thing.

01:18:43.000 Yeah, I think this, frankly, I think this is a fundamental existential issue for the

01:18:48.000 United States.

01:18:50.000 And if we have another four more years of open borders, and it's going to be even worse

01:18:55.000 with another four more years.

01:18:57.000 It's going to be even worse than it's been for the past three and a half years.

01:19:01.000 I'm not sure we've got a country.

01:19:02.000 You don't have a country.

01:19:04.000 Elon, if they get in, you will have 50 to 60 million people from all over the world, not South America only.

01:19:13.000 You know, we think of South America, we think of Honduras and El Salvador, Guatemala.

01:19:18.000 And Mexico, you know, the four, but it's not that it's everywhere.

01:19:23.000 They're coming in from everywhere.

01:19:25.000 And I had to stay in.

01:19:26.000 This is a, this is a super important point.

01:19:29.000 Like people it's like, well, basically when I went down there, I was like, well, where are people from?

01:19:33.000 It's like, it's like almost no one was from Mexico.

01:19:36.000 It's just, it's just, it's just the border.

01:19:39.000 It's just the border with Mexico, but the people coming in it's, it's, it's earth, the rest of earth and America is, is only, You know, about four, four or five percent of the population of Earth. 0.97

01:19:50.000 It would only take a few percent of the rest of Earth to overwhelm everything.

01:19:54.000 We're already overwhelmed.

01:19:56.000 We're overwhelmed.

01:19:57.000 You had to see the news tonight about New York, New York.

01:20:00.000 And I love that place and what they're doing to it is horrible, what they're doing to it.

01:20:05.000 And all the courts do is they try and focus on Trump.

01:20:08.000 OK, then let's focus on Trump.

01:20:10.000 Who did nothing wrong.

01:20:11.000 I complain about a rigged election.

01:20:13.000 Elon, what's happened is unbelievable.

01:20:16.000 You have from Africa, from the Congo, they're coming from the Congo and 22 people came in from the Congo recently and they're murderers and they're dropped.

01:20:26.000 They drop them.

01:20:27.000 They take them out of jails, which is very expensive, you know, to maintain the jail.

01:20:31.000 So they don't do too much maintaining.

01:20:33.000 I can tell you.

01:20:34.000 But they take them out of jails, prisons, they take them out and they bring them to the United States. 1.00

01:20:39.000 They deposit them in the United States and say, don't ever come back or you're going to be executed.

01:20:44.000 And they don't want to come back, but they won't come back.

01:20:47.000 But they're coming from Africa. 0.72

01:20:49.000 They're coming from Asia. 1.00

01:20:51.000 They're coming from the Middle East. 0.99

01:20:52.000 They're coming from South America.

01:20:54.000 They're coming from everywhere.

01:20:55.000 And there are a lot of really bad ones.

01:20:59.000 It's just, it's just an everywhere on earth thing.

01:21:02.000 And it's just, it's just not possible for the United States to absorb, you know, everyone from earth or, you know, even a few percent of the rest of earth. 0.96

01:21:08.000 It's just not possible.

01:21:10.000 So we're going to have to finish this up.

01:21:13.000 We're going to have the largest deportation in history of this country and we have no choice.

01:21:19.000 Otherwise we're going to have a country.

01:21:21.000 What did what they've done to our country?

01:21:24.000 Think of it with with, you know, in Venezuela and in some of these other countries, crime is down 50, 60, 70, 80 percent.

01:21:32.000 And you would be the same.

01:21:34.000 You would have you would.

01:21:35.000 Yeah.

01:21:35.000 I'll tell you what.

01:21:36.000 Venezuela has not gotten rid of all of them. 0.94

01:21:38.000 They've gotten rid of about 70 percent of their really bad people.

01:21:41.000 Their jails are about 50 percent.

01:21:45.000 Put into the United States. 0.96

01:21:46.000 Same with other countries.

01:21:47.000 Some are at 30 percent, some are at 50 percent.

01:21:50.000 They're all different.

01:21:51.000 But the bottom line is they're all going to be at 100 percent.

01:21:53.000 Why wouldn't you put 100 percent?

01:21:55.000 And they're doing it right now while this third rate phony candidate. 0.99

01:22:01.000 Don't forget, I beat, I beat Biden.

01:22:05.000 He failed in the debate miserably.

01:22:07.000 And, you know, some people said, oh, gee, it's too bad.

01:22:10.000 It's too bad he did so badly.

01:22:11.000 Or I did well in the debate.

01:22:13.000 You know, the first night they said, Wow.

01:22:15.000 One of the people at CNN said that was the greatest debate performance I've ever witnessed.

01:22:20.000 And then two days later, they didn't talk about that.

01:22:22.000 They just said he was bad.

01:22:24.000 But that's OK.

01:22:24.000 That's the way I get treated.

01:22:25.000 And I don't mind that at all.

01:22:27.000 What I can tell you is that he does not mind.

01:22:29.000 We cannot have a Democrat.

01:22:30.000 We cannot have her. 1.00

01:22:31.000 She's incompetent. 1.00

01:22:32.000 She's as bad as Biden in a different. 1.00

01:22:34.000 Yeah.

01:22:34.000 He hasn't done an interview.

01:22:36.000 He beat Biden in the debate.

01:22:39.000 Scam started.

01:22:40.000 And say what you want, this was a coup.

01:22:43.000 This was a coup of a president of the United States.

01:22:45.000 He didn't want to leave and they said we can do it the nice way or we can do it the hard way.

01:22:50.000 I'm just talking about back behind the scenes.

01:22:54.000 Oh, what they did with this guy.

01:22:56.000 And I'm no fan of his. 0.97

01:22:57.000 And he was a horrible president, the worst president in history.

01:23:00.000 And one of the reasons he was so bad, first of all, the Israeli attack would have never happened. 0.87

01:23:05.000 Russia would never have attacked Ukraine.

01:23:07.000 And we'd have no inflation.

01:23:09.000 And we wouldn't have had the Afghanistan mess, if you think of it. 1.00

01:23:12.000 And we wouldn't have had Afghanistan. 0.99

01:23:14.000 But think of it.

01:23:16.000 You take a few of those events away, and we have a different world.

01:23:19.000 We would also have no inflation.

01:23:21.000 Inflation was caused by oil.

01:23:24.000 Yeah.

01:23:26.000 I think you make an excellent point here, which is that when other countries are thinking about invading or doing bad things, When they're thinking about that, they're thinking about,

01:23:36.000 okay, what's the American president going to do?

01:23:39.000 And do they fear the American president?

01:23:42.000 Or is there someone they do not respect and do not fear?

01:23:46.000 And I think they do, they would rightfully be.

01:23:51.000 I mean, you know, look at the footage of the assassination.

01:23:55.000 They're like, okay, you know, President Trump is like, don't mess with me.

01:24:01.000 I mean, that's like, whereas I think people are not going to be and they obviously have not been at all intimidated by Biden.

01:24:10.000 And they certainly will not be intimidated by Kamala.

01:24:12.000 And you have to really think about in the context of global security.

01:24:16.000 Um, that's, that's, that if the, if the American president is someone, someone that, like, you know, evil dictators are scared of, that makes a huge difference to the security of the world. 0.94

01:24:28.000 So I had a good relationship with Putin despite the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax that lasted for over two years, just a hoax created by Hillary Clinton and, uh, Adam Shifty Schiff, some just bad people, you know, just sick people, frankly. 0.94

01:24:41.000 I mean, Schiff, Schiff is a sick person.

01:24:43.000 He's going to end up probably being a senator. 0.99

01:24:46.000 It's hard to believe.

01:24:46.000 The whole thing is hard to believe.

01:24:49.000 You know, they put our country in danger with that stuff too.

01:24:51.000 They actually, when they make up stories and you have to fight your way out of it for a long time.

01:24:56.000 But I know Putin very well.

01:24:58.000 I got along with him very well.

01:25:00.000 He respected me and it's just one of those things.

01:25:02.000 And he would, we would talk a lot about Ukraine.

01:25:06.000 It was the apple of his eye.

01:25:08.000 But I said, don't ever do it.

01:25:09.000 Don't ever do it.

01:25:10.000 You know, I shut down Nord Stream 2.

01:25:12.000 That was the big oil pipeline.

01:25:13.000 The biggest, I think the biggest pipeline in the world going all over Europe.

01:25:16.000 I shut it down.

01:25:17.000 Biden came and then they say, I, you know, I was, I loved Russia.

01:25:21.000 I was a friend of Putin and I loved Russia.

01:25:22.000 No, he actually said to me one time, he said, if you're my friend, I'd hate to see you as an enemy.

01:25:27.000 I shut down his pipeline, the biggest pipeline.

01:25:30.000 They were looking at that fund. 1.00

01:25:32.000 And this, this pathetic president gets in there. 0.99

01:25:36.000 And the first thing he did, one of the early things he did is he shut down. 0.98

01:25:41.000 He shut down Keystone XL pipeline, which is our pipeline that would have employed 48,000 People, pipeline workers, shuts it down.

01:25:50.000 That was, you know, a massive job that Obama refused to allow.

01:25:56.000 I allowed it in my first week because it was jobs and it moved oil.

01:26:00.000 And by the way, in a much more environmentally friendly way, it's underground.

01:26:04.000 It's not a truck that catches on fire or a train that catches on fire.

01:26:08.000 But think of it.

01:26:09.000 He shut down the XL pipeline, the Keystone XL pipeline.

01:26:15.000 He shuts that down.

01:26:17.000 And he approves the Russian pipeline.

01:26:19.000 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

01:26:21.000 It's like, it's inconsistent.

01:26:24.000 Certainly.

01:26:25.000 But I mean, I think it's just worth emphasizing to listeners that the immense importance of whether the United States president is intimidating or not intimidating.

01:26:37.000 YouTube just created a summary.

01:26:38.000 And how much that matters to global security.

01:26:41.000 Elon Musk hears nervous stutters and speaks in a low voice.

01:26:46.000 Meet Kevin, he has something similar.

01:26:48.000 I know everyone, I know President Xi, I know Kim Jong-un of North Korea, I know everyone

01:26:58.000 of them.

01:26:59.000 And let me tell you, people say, oh, this is terrible.

01:27:03.000 I'm not saying anything good or bad.

01:27:05.000 They're at the top of their game.

01:27:07.000 They're tough.

01:27:07.000 They're smart.

01:27:09.000 They're vicious.

01:27:10.000 And they're going to protect their country, whether they love their country.

01:27:13.000 They probably do.

01:27:14.000 It's just a different form of love.

01:27:15.000 But they're going to protect their country.

01:27:17.000 But these are tough people at the top of their game.

01:27:19.000 And when they see a Kamala or when they see Biden, Sleepy Joe, they can't even believe it.

01:27:26.000 They can't believe this happened.

01:27:28.000 It's not a list of a slush.

01:27:28.000 All the stuff that you're seeing now, all the horror that you're... Look at Israel.

01:27:32.000 They're all waiting for an attack from Iran. 1.00

01:27:34.000 Iran would not be attacking, believe me.

01:27:36.000 You know, when I was there, I say it with respect because I think we would have been good with Iran.

01:27:43.000 I don't want to do anything bad to Iran.

01:27:45.000 And he's got something attached to the phone.

01:27:46.000 You can see in the photo.

01:27:47.000 Iran was broke because I told China, if you buy from Iran oil, it's all about the oil. 0.87

01:27:52.000 That's where the money is.

01:27:53.000 But if you buy oil from Iran, you're not going to do any business with the United States.

01:27:59.000 And I meant it.

01:28:00.000 And they said, we'll pass it.

01:28:02.000 They didn't buy oil.

01:28:03.000 Other countries likewise, you want to buy, you're not doing business with the United States.

01:28:07.000 And they were at a point where they had no money for Hamas.

01:28:11.000 They had no money for Hezbollah. 0.78

01:28:12.000 They had no money for any of these instruments of terror.

01:28:16.000 And it was amazing.

01:28:18.000 In fact, there were articles when I was leaving, which is hard to believe actually, Especially when you look at what's happened to our country.

01:28:24.000 Our country is so bad right now.

01:28:26.000 It's such a different place.

01:28:27.000 We were respected.

01:28:29.000 Think of it.

01:28:29.000 Four years ago, we were so respected to a point where when I said, don't buy oil, they didn't buy oil, but they had no money and Israel would have never been attacked.

01:28:40.000 It is zero chance.

01:28:42.000 And again, I said to Vladimir Putin, I say, don't do it.

01:28:45.000 You can't do it.

01:28:46.000 Vladimir, you do it.

01:28:47.000 It's going to be a bad day.

01:28:49.000 You cannot do it.

01:28:51.000 And I told him things that what I do and he said, no way.

01:28:56.000 And I said, way.

01:28:58.000 And you know, it's the last time we ever had the conversation.

01:29:01.000 He would never have done... I got along well with him.

01:29:03.000 I hope to get along well with him again.

01:29:05.000 You know, getting along well with them is a good thing, not a bad thing.

01:29:09.000 I got along well with him as John Lennon.

01:29:11.000 When I met with President Obama, just before entering, you know, it's sort of a ritual.

01:29:17.000 And I sat down with him and we talked.

01:29:19.000 It was supposed to be for a very short period of time.

01:29:21.000 It turned out to be a long period of time.

01:29:23.000 I said, what's the biggest problem?

01:29:24.000 He said, North Korea.

01:29:26.000 I had that problem worked out very quickly.

01:29:28.000 It was nasty at the beginning with Rocket Man and, you know, all the different things, but all of a sudden I got a call.

01:29:34.000 Those were some epic tweets, by the way.

01:29:36.000 Yeah, they were.

01:29:36.000 No, they were epic, everything.

01:29:38.000 He said that he has a red button on his desk.

01:29:41.000 I said, I have a red button on my desk, too, but my red button is much bigger and my red button works.

01:29:47.000 And then I called him Little Rocket Man of Little Rocket Man.

01:29:51.000 Anyway, here's the bottom line.

01:29:52.000 All of a sudden I got a call from him.

01:29:55.000 And they said they want to meet.

01:29:56.000 They want to meet me.

01:29:57.000 And we met, as you remember, we met in Singapore.

01:30:00.000 We met also in Vietnam.

01:30:02.000 And I got along with him great.

01:30:05.000 We were in no danger.

01:30:06.000 But President Obama thought we were going to end up in a war, a nuclear war with him.

01:30:11.000 And let me tell you, he's got a lot of nuclear stuff.

01:30:14.000 He's got plenty of nuclear.

01:30:16.000 He can do plenty of damage.

01:30:20.000 People like Kim Jong-un, they respond to strength, not weakness.

01:30:26.000 He and I had a good relationship.

01:30:31.000 Remember I met him and we walked onto his land.

01:30:33.000 Nobody ever walked onto his land before.

01:30:36.000 I wouldn't say, let's bring up Secret Service again, I wouldn't say they were thrilled when I did that I walked onto his land.

01:30:43.000 It was an amazing period.

01:30:46.000 But we were not in danger with him because of me.

01:30:49.000 You know, I always say that we have enemies on the outside and we have enemies on the inside.

01:30:55.000 We have some really bad people in our government.

01:30:58.000 And people that are, and controlling of the people.

01:31:02.000 I mean, I mentioned names, but I don't, I really don't want to give them the credit, but we have some really bad, and I say they're more dangerous than Russia and China. 0.99

01:31:10.000 If you have a smart president, a president that gets it, we are not in danger from those countries because they need us and they need our help.

01:31:20.000 I mean, we forced Obama, if you think about it, Obama and Biden, And Bush, to a certain extent, in all fairness, forced Russia and China together. 0.60

01:31:31.000 And if you're a history student, the first thing you learn is you cannot let Russia and China align. 0.94

01:31:37.000 But then they also got, if you take a look, Iran, and they have North Korea.

01:31:42.000 That's, you know, they call it the axis of evil.

01:31:45.000 In the old days, you had the axis of evil.

01:31:47.000 Here we have a modern day axis of evil.

01:31:49.000 These are Powerful countries, very heavy nuclear, which is the biggest threat.

01:31:55.000 You know, the biggest threat is not global warming, where the ocean's gonna rise one eighth of an inch over the next 400 years.

01:32:02.000 And you'll have more oceanfront property, right?

01:32:05.000 The biggest threat is not that.

01:32:07.000 The biggest threat is nuclear warming. 0.97

01:32:09.000 Because we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power, and we have to not allow Anything to happen with stupid people like Biden, you know Biden Did something with Russia There was no chance of him ever going in and when I left and then then after I left they started forming Big armies on there on the border with Ukraine, right? 0.99

01:32:33.000 And I looked at that and I thought he was doing that because Putin's a good negotiator I thought he was doing that to negotiate but then Biden started saying such stupid things for instance. 0.99

01:32:43.000 He said that I It can be a NATO country. 0.95

01:32:47.000 Now, Russia for as long as there's been NATO has said, we're never going to agree to that.

01:32:54.000 And we go right up front and say that. 0.82

01:32:57.000 And we did things and said things through this president with a low IQ, very low IQ.

01:33:02.000 He had a low IQ 30 years ago, by the way, but now he might not even have a IQ at all.

01:33:06.000 There is no, there's nothing on the board that goes as low. 1.00

01:33:09.000 He said things that were so stupid. 1.00

01:33:14.000 That, that war would have been, that war had zero chance of happening if I were there. 1.00

01:33:19.000 Zero chance.

01:33:20.000 He was saying everything the opposite, everything the opposite.

01:33:24.000 And it's so sad because many more people have been killed in Ukraine than you read about.

01:33:29.000 You don't read about how bloody it is and how desert.

01:33:32.000 Hey, look, just in the two armies, you lost a half a million people.

01:33:36.000 And, uh, and you know, Ukraine's having a hard time.

01:33:39.000 Ukraine, I don't know if you saw the article recently and it's true.

01:33:42.000 You don't hear the true story.

01:33:44.000 If you think about it, Russia's gone, you know, Russia defeated Germany with us, and they defeated Napoleon.

01:33:51.000 You know, they've been around a long time.

01:33:53.000 They're a big fighting force.

01:33:55.000 And it's very unfair.

01:33:56.000 And Ukraine now doesn't have enough men.

01:33:59.000 They're now using young men and very old men to fight.

01:34:03.000 And we're in a very bad position.

01:34:07.000 And I'm not going to blame exclusively, but I can tell you I could have stopped that and a smart president could have stopped that.

01:34:14.000 It wouldn't have happened.

01:34:15.000 But we had we had a man that actually made it.

01:34:18.000 It made it more prevalent.

01:34:20.000 It was so bad.

01:34:22.000 The words that he was using. 1.00

01:34:24.000 The stupid threats coming from a stupid face that he was using. 1.00

01:34:29.000 I said, this guy's gonna cause us a war. 1.00

01:34:31.000 He's gonna cause us... And let me tell you, it can lead to World War III.

01:34:34.000 That can lead to World War III.

01:34:36.000 The Middle East can lead to... We have numerous places that could end up in a World War III right now for no reason whatsoever.

01:34:43.000 I think you're right.

01:34:44.000 I think people underrate the risk of World War III.

01:34:48.000 And it's just... You know, when looking at the risk of global thermonuclear warfare. It's game over for humanity.

01:34:55.000 And, you know, that's, it's something that people have, I think,

01:34:59.000 after the end of the Cold War, people have become complacent about, but they

01:35:03.000 actually have forgotten that there are currently a lot of nuclear missiles

01:35:08.000 that have targeting parameters for the United States from other countries.

01:35:12.000 And one of the things we're going to do is we're going to build an Iron Dome over us.

01:35:16.000 You know, Israel has it.

01:35:17.000 We're going to have the best Iron Dome in the world.

01:35:20.000 We need it.

01:35:20.000 And we're going to make it all in the United States.

01:35:22.000 But we're going to have protection.

01:35:25.000 Because it just takes one maniac to start something.

01:35:28.000 We're going to have protection.

01:35:29.000 And we're going to have, why shouldn't we have an Iron Dome?

01:35:31.000 Israel has one.

01:35:32.000 Some other places have one that nobody even knows about, frankly.

01:35:36.000 But Israel has it. 0.91

01:35:37.000 We're going to have an Iron Dome.

01:35:39.000 But, you know, with all of that being said, to me, that's so important, the most important.

01:35:44.000 But with all of that being said, The election's coming up and the people want to hear about the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries because they don't have enough money to buy groceries.

01:35:54.000 The inflation has killed them.

01:35:56.000 Food prices are up 50, 60, even 100% in some cases. 1.00

01:36:00.000 And this stupid administration allowed this to happen. 1.00

01:36:04.000 And it's a shame. 1.00

01:36:05.000 And that's the thing that people most care about, in my opinion.

01:36:08.000 They care about the border a lot.

01:36:10.000 And we discussed the border at great length.

01:36:12.000 It's nice to have a forum like this where I can discuss something At length.

01:36:16.000 And by the way, you think Biden could do this interview?

01:36:19.000 Do you think that Kamala could do this interview?

01:36:21.000 They would take a pass on you.

01:36:22.000 No, they could not.

01:36:23.000 They don't need Elon.

01:36:25.000 They don't need Elon screaming out questions.

01:36:28.000 It's pretty sad when you think that somebody that does this for a living can't answer a question or is afraid to do an interview.

01:36:36.000 And in her case with a very friendly interview, she's got all friendly interviewers.

01:36:41.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:36:46.000 I mean, I view nuclear as the single most important thing, but a lot of people don't.

01:36:49.000 A lot of people don't understand that, but it doesn't have to.

01:36:52.000 If I understand it, that's all you need, because if I was president, you're not going to have that kind of a problem.

01:36:57.000 But the thing that really is making them angry is what Kamala and Biden have allowed to happen to the economy.

01:37:06.000 It's a disaster with inflation.

01:37:09.000 The inflation, it doesn't matter what you make, the inflation is eating you alive.

01:37:13.000 If you're a worker or if you're a just a middle income person, you can't afford, you know, four years ago, five years ago, people were saving a lot of money.

01:37:25.000 Today, they're using all their money and borrowing money just to live.

01:37:29.000 It's a horrible thing that's happening.

01:37:31.000 And we'll end that quickly.

01:37:32.000 Well, I think a lot of people just don't understand where inflation comes from.

01:37:33.000 Trump's got a mic next to his mouth that some people think are compressing.

01:37:37.000 And so it's making that weird slush sound.

01:37:39.000 It's really annoying because you can tell it's not on every S-word by the government.

01:37:42.000 So if the government spends far more than it brings in, the whole thing's going to be

01:37:48.000 slush and done.

01:37:49.000 And if the money's flying, Greece is faster than the rate of goods and services.

01:37:53.000 We got a real-time audio engineer in the room.

01:37:56.000 Really, we need to reduce our government spending, and we need to re-examine.

01:38:02.000 I think we need a government efficiency commission to say, like, hey, where are we spending money that's sensible?

01:38:08.000 Where is it not sensible?

01:38:10.000 And we need to live within our means.

01:38:12.000 We're currently adding, I think, a trillion dollars to the deficit roughly every hundred days.

01:38:20.000 And the interest payments on the national debt have now exceeded the defense budget.

01:38:25.000 It's on the order of a trillion dollars.

01:38:27.000 It's interest.

01:38:28.000 And it keeps growing.

01:38:29.000 I rebuilt our military, largely rebuilt our military.

01:38:32.000 I did a great job on it, which was so important.

01:38:34.000 We had jets, we had fighters that were, and bombers that were 70 years old.

01:38:39.000 And we, we did a great job in that.

01:38:41.000 Then we, by the way, then we gave 85 billion of it back to Afghanistan.

01:38:45.000 If you can believe it, we gave them 85 billion that, you know, they're one of the largest sellers of military equipment in the world.

01:38:51.000 They're selling what we gave them.

01:38:53.000 That was one of the most embarrassing days in the history of our country.

01:38:57.000 But, uh, if you think about, let's go back to the, uh, the economy.

01:39:03.000 We have to bring energy prices down.

01:39:04.000 Energy started it.

01:39:06.000 The price of gasoline... Now, your cars don't require too much gasoline, so you have a good... And you do make a great product, I have to say.

01:39:14.000 I have to be honest with you.

01:39:15.000 That doesn't mean everybody should have... I bought a Cybertruck.

01:39:18.000 These are minor details, but your product is incredible.

01:39:22.000 But the gasoline, Elon, is the cost of energy.

01:39:26.000 Not only gasoline, it's the cost of heating your house and cooling your house.

01:39:30.000 That has to come down.

01:39:32.000 It's gone up 100 percent, 150 and 200 percent.

01:39:37.000 And that has to come down when that comes down.

01:39:40.000 And we're going to drill baby drill.

01:39:41.000 You know, they stopped drilling and then they went back to drilling because they went back to the Trump policy.

01:39:48.000 But if they won the day after they get into office.

01:39:52.000 This country will go out of business because they're going to go to an energy policy that's not sustainable.

01:39:58.000 Wind and different things.

01:40:00.000 You're not going to have anything.

01:40:02.000 And I know you're a big fan of the AI.

01:40:05.000 And I have to say that AI, and this is shocking to me, but AI requires twice the energy that the country already produces for everything.

01:40:15.000 So you're going to have to build, we're going to have to build a lot of energy if our country will be competitive with China, which is our primary competitor for this on the AI.

01:40:26.000 You're going to need a lot of electricity.

01:40:27.000 You're going to need tremendous electricity, like almost double what we produce now for the whole country, if you can believe it.

01:40:36.000 Sure.

01:40:37.000 Well, just going back to this basic thing, which is that people try to make it sound complicated, but it's not, but inflation is caused by government overspending.

01:40:47.000 Would you agree that we need to take a look at government spending and have perhaps a government efficiency commission that Just look, tries to make the spending sensible.

01:40:59.000 And so the country lives within his means, just like just like a person.

01:41:01.000 The waste is incredible.

01:41:03.000 And it's nobody negotiates prices.

01:41:07.000 You used to have a lot of people making jets and you end up with two companies and they'll probably try and merge at some point.

01:41:13.000 I mean, I went through it.

01:41:16.000 Like Air Force, just a thing like Air Force One.

01:41:19.000 One of the first documents they asked me to sign a general, I said, sir, would you please sign this document?

01:41:23.000 And what is it?

01:41:24.000 Air Force One.

01:41:25.000 That's with Boeing, which is basically two planes, two 747s.

01:41:29.000 And the price was 5.7 billion dollars for two planes.

01:41:33.000 Now, they're highly sophisticated.

01:41:35.000 They're even nicer than your plane, okay?

01:41:37.000 But much more sophisticated.

01:41:39.000 They're very... I won't say what's on it, but they got a lot of stuff on it.

01:41:42.000 Anyway, 5.7.

01:41:43.000 That's a crazy number.

01:41:46.000 But I said, I'm not going to pay 5.7.

01:41:48.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:41:49.000 I said, who made the deal?

01:41:50.000 Obama and his people.

01:41:52.000 I said, well then I know the deal's no good.

01:41:53.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:41:55.000 And over a course of about four weeks by my saying, I'm not going to do it.

01:42:00.000 I got the price reduced by $1.6 billion for the exact same plane.

01:42:05.000 Other than we had a nicer paint job, if you want to know the truth, but for the exact same plane I got, I saved for it.

01:42:11.000 And I said to Boeing, man, you guys must make a lot of money if you can reduce the price by that.

01:42:16.000 But now what I do here is that they're going back to the, Biden administration and wanting big cost overruns, you

01:42:24.000 know, because they see these dopey suckers in there and they'll end up getting some of 1.00

01:42:28.000 the money back. 0.92

01:42:29.000 But I shaved it by one point six billion dollars for the exact same plan.

01:42:34.000 And you can now take that and multiply that out times thousands of other items.

01:42:38.000 Multiplied by a billion.

01:42:40.000 And the astronomical.

01:42:42.000 I agree with you.

01:42:43.000 Well, I mean, if so, so I mean, I mean, I think it would be great to just have a government

01:42:50.000 efficiency commission that takes a look at these things and and just ensures that the

01:42:55.000 taxpayer money to the taxpayers hard earned money is spent in a good way.

01:43:01.000 Um, and I'd be happy to help out on such a commission.

01:43:05.000 I'd love it.

01:43:05.000 If it were foam.

01:43:06.000 Well, you, you're the greatest cutter.

01:43:08.000 I mean, I look at what you do.

01:43:09.000 You want to quit?

01:43:10.000 They go on strike and you say, that's okay.

01:43:13.000 You're all gone.

01:43:18.000 You're all gone, so every one of you is gone, and you are the greatest.

01:43:21.000 You would be very good.

01:43:22.000 Oh, you would love it.

01:43:23.000 But, you know, if you look at Argentina... Well, I'd be happy to help out.

01:43:26.000 By the way, congratulations.

01:43:27.000 I just looked at the number of people that are listening to you and I chat.

01:43:30.000 We'll call it a chat.

01:43:32.000 But congratulations.

01:43:34.000 This is very good.

01:43:35.000 I mean, it's great.

01:43:37.000 And you're an interesting character.

01:43:38.000 You know, the new head of a place called Argentina, And he was, he's a big, you know, he's great.

01:43:48.000 And he's a big MAGA fan.

01:43:49.000 You know that he ran on MAGA and he took it to an extreme too.

01:43:54.000 He ran on MAGA and I hear he's doing really a terrific job.

01:43:58.000 It's called make Argentina great again.

01:43:59.000 It worked out perfectly.

01:44:00.000 He came in, they bought a lot of hats he brought over, but he's, he's doing a big job.

01:44:05.000 He really cut.

01:44:07.000 And I'm hearing they're starting to do pretty well.

01:44:09.000 Inflation's getting down, you know, they had like 2000% and they had inflation like Like not normal inflation.

01:44:16.000 They had the real deal, but we're going to have that pretty soon.

01:44:21.000 We have, I think we have the worst inflation we've had in a hundred years.

01:44:24.000 They say it's 48 years.

01:44:26.000 I don't believe it.

01:44:27.000 I think we have the worst.

01:44:28.000 They don't include a lot of the items that should be included.

01:44:31.000 Yeah, well it's just from government overspending and just not spending taxpayer money effectively.

01:44:42.000 So many departments, you can't even name them all.

01:44:46.000 And what Malay is doing is he's cutting government spending, he's simplifying things, he's putting in regulations that make sense. 0.88

01:44:58.000 Argentina, overnight, is experiencing a giant improvement in prosperity.

01:45:05.000 But it's also a lesson for the United States, which is that Argentina used to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world in the 30s, 40s, and because of bad government policy, it ruined the country.

01:45:22.000 And if you take Venezuela, for example, Venezuela should be incredibly prosperous.

01:45:27.000 They have phenomenal reserves of everything, oil, everything.

01:45:33.000 And it should be prosperous, but if the government's wrong, it impoverishes the people.

01:45:38.000 And so I think we should not be complacent in the United States in thinking that and taking our prosperity for granted.

01:45:45.000 Well, think of education.

01:45:47.000 So we're ranked at the bottom of every list of the top 40.

01:45:49.000 And that's just something people should bear in mind.

01:45:52.000 Don't take prosperity for granted.

01:45:53.000 Well, think of education.

01:45:55.000 So we're ranked at the bottom of every list of the top 40.

01:45:59.000 We're ranked number 40, number 38.

01:46:01.000 Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, different countries are ranked good.

01:46:08.000 Actually, China's pretty close to the top.

01:46:10.000 They're a top six or seven, but we're ranked at the bottom, almost at the bottom, 38, 39, 40.

01:46:16.000 In other words, horrible.

01:46:19.000 And yet we spend more per pupil than any other country in the world.

01:46:22.000 So we spend more.

01:46:23.000 And what I'm going to do, one of the first acts, and this is where I need an Elon Musk.

01:46:28.000 I need somebody that has a lot of Strength and courage and smarts.

01:46:31.000 I want to close up Department of Education, move education back to the states where states like Iowa, where states like Idaho, you know, not every state will do great because states that basically aren't doing good now you look at Yeah.

01:46:47.000 Gavin Newsome, the governor of California, he's terrible.

01:46:52.000 He's does a terrible job.

01:46:53.000 So he's not going to do great with education.

01:46:56.000 But of the 50, I would bet that 35 would do great and 15 of them or, you know, 20 of them

01:47:06.000 will be as good as Norway.

01:47:07.000 You know, Norway is considered great.

01:47:10.000 You can name them.

01:47:11.000 I mean, just they're so good.

01:47:13.000 Some of these countries are so good.

01:47:15.000 But if you go into some of these really well run states, you know, we have states that don't know what debt is.

01:47:21.000 We have states that are have low taxes, no debt.

01:47:25.000 Everybody work, you know, they're really well run.

01:47:28.000 Sure.

01:47:28.000 And maybe they have certain advantages in terms of location, in terms of, you know, the land or the the sun, the sun and the water and the whole thing.

01:47:35.000 You know, there are a lot of advantages that some people.

01:47:37.000 But if you moved education back to the 50, you'll have some that won't do well, but you'll have but they'll actually be forced to do better because it'll be a pretty bad situation.

01:47:48.000 But if you think about it, yeah, you'll have some of these states.

01:47:51.000 I'll bet you'd have 30, 35 states.

01:47:54.000 It'll be much better.

01:47:55.000 And you know what it'll cost?

01:47:56.000 Less than half what it is in Washington.

01:48:00.000 And these people don't care about students in these, you know, faraway states.

01:48:04.000 And it will be, it'll be unbelievable.

01:48:06.000 Yeah.

01:48:07.000 I think you're making a good point in that if the states have to, if each individual, if each state has to compete against other states, then people will naturally move to states where it's better.

01:48:20.000 Well, like California, you know, as we said, it's a badly run state.

01:48:25.000 I could go through, I got so many friends that are in those states, even if they're Democrats, I hate to mention certain states.

01:48:31.000 Illinois is badly run with Pritzker. 0.99

01:48:33.000 He's a, he's a real loser.

01:48:35.000 But, but you know, some of these places are just badly run, but you know, it's almost going to force them to run better and they won't do a good initially, but, but you're not going to do worse than you're doing right now. 0.93

01:48:47.000 And I would say that the cost, you would cut your cost by 50 or 60%.

01:48:52.000 And you'd have a little monitor, you know, you want to make sure they're teaching English as an example, you know, give us a little English, right?

01:48:58.000 Sure.

01:48:59.000 Right.

01:48:59.000 No, but I mean, I mean, some of these governors are like, are doing so badly.

01:49:04.000 I mean, they got so many people moving out of their state.

01:49:07.000 They should, they should get U-Haul salesman of the year award because they're driving so much U-Haul.

01:49:12.000 It's actually amazing.

01:49:13.000 People move it out.

01:49:14.000 Isn't it amazing to you as a businessman that, They can even survive.

01:49:19.000 Like, Illinois.

01:49:20.000 So many people are leaving, and you wonder, how do they survive?

01:49:23.000 I mean, how do they survive?

01:49:26.000 I saw where you left California, and you moved to Texas.

01:49:30.000 Texas does a great job.

01:49:32.000 But, you know, I mean, I just wonder, how do these states survive when big businesses, a big oil company just left California, as you know, and they moved to Texas.

01:49:42.000 How do these big states survive when they lose so many businesses And their taxes are already really high.

01:49:49.000 You know, their taxes are among the highest taxes.

01:49:52.000 You almost wonder, how do they continue on?

01:49:55.000 And in many cases, the governors don't do a good job and they're crime-ridden places.

01:50:00.000 You wonder, how do they continue to just go on?

01:50:04.000 It's not a good situation.

01:50:07.000 I mean, I think the thing that's the only thing that's going to force some of these states to change is if they risk bankruptcy and they're not getting bailed out by the federal government.

01:50:17.000 That's the only thing that's going to get them changed.

01:50:21.000 They're not even talking.

01:50:22.000 I mean, they've mentioned it a couple of times, but the focus really is on like, what are the problems?

01:50:26.000 They went into a form of chapter and it was very nasty for a period of time, but now it's probably the most popular place in all of California.

01:50:35.000 So, you know, at some point, something like that may have to happen.

01:50:39.000 But the problem is you can't penalize people that loan money to the state when you have incompetent people like a Pritzker.

01:50:47.000 Look, the family didn't want him in the family business.

01:50:50.000 And then he ends up being governor of Illinois.

01:50:53.000 So, you know, what is he going to be?

01:50:54.000 Is he going to be a great governor?

01:50:56.000 And, you know, you have people I could name every one of them.

01:50:59.000 I got to know every one of them.

01:51:00.000 And some are very good and some are just horrible.

01:51:04.000 Well, I think the larger point here, as you're saying, a lot of people are concerned about the economy, a lot of people are concerned about inflation, and inflation is effectively a tax on people that save money and for people that are working day-to-day.

01:51:18.000 It's just a form of taxation.

01:51:22.000 And if we can solve the government spending problem, we'll solve the inflation problem, which means people will have a better standard of living.

01:51:28.000 And that's a really big deal.

01:51:29.000 Well, the people that got hurt worst are the people that did it the way they were taught to do it all through, you know, their younger life and their young life and their whole life.

01:51:40.000 The people that saved money and then they got no interest on their money and inflation destroyed them.

01:51:47.000 And frankly, they were almost better off if they didn't do anything like that.

01:51:50.000 I mean, those people have been absolutely decimated and we're going to bring those people back and help those people.

01:51:55.000 We've got to get the prices down.

01:51:57.000 You know, when I look at bacon costing five, four or five times more than it did a few years ago, when, when you look at some of the food products and groceries, those people go, they can't believe it.

01:52:07.000 They used to be able to buy a whole cart and today, You know, a lot of people just don't have the money.

01:52:13.000 They go in and they can't buy anything.

01:52:16.000 They look at... Yeah.

01:52:17.000 It's sticker shock.

01:52:18.000 They call it sticker shock, right?

01:52:21.000 I think it really just comes down to two things, which is that if you solve government overspending, you solve inflation, which improves living standards of the average person.

01:52:33.000 And then if you deregulate, like have sensible regulations, because a lot of the regulations are nonsensical and cause the cost to be extreme for no reason, But unless you've got effective deregulation, like Reagan

01:52:48.000 did a great job on deregulation in the 80s, but it's been 40 years since we had anyone

01:52:53.000 really...

01:52:55.000 During your administration, we made some progress, but I think there's an opportunity to make

01:52:59.000 I think radical progress with sensible regulation.

01:53:04.000 And if you...

01:53:05.000 Well, Elon, we...

01:53:06.000 Those two things, yeah.

01:53:07.000 Those are the big deals.

01:53:08.000 We set a record.

01:53:10.000 We did more deregulation and more restrictions on all of the different businesses than any other president.

01:53:19.000 Remember, I had the rule for every one we put in, you have to get rid of 10 or 12.

01:53:24.000 And we did radical cuts on all of that.

01:53:27.000 And a lot of that's being put back by this administration.

01:53:30.000 And we did radical cuts on things that weren't necessary.

01:53:33.000 But we were all set.

01:53:35.000 You know, we had the best economy.

01:53:37.000 Ever maybe in the world.

01:53:38.000 And then what happened is COVID came in and we had to focus on that and nobody knew what it was.

01:53:45.000 And I always say I got good marks on economy, good marks on military.

01:53:48.000 We knocked out ISIS. 0.91

01:53:49.000 We did so many different things.

01:53:50.000 We rebuilt.

01:53:51.000 But you know, I never got The credit that we really deserved on what we did with COVID.

01:53:57.000 We never got the credit.

01:53:58.000 But we were, if had that not happened, a gift from China, from Wuhan, came in from Wuhan, the Wuhan labs and I always said it and it turned out to be right. 1.00

01:54:10.000 But had that not had that not happened we were set to start reducing Debt, we're gonna reduce taxes further I gave the largest tax cuts and we were gonna reduce taxes still further for middle-income people not only businesses But we did it for businesses because they're the ones that that's why we had the great job numbers But we were set to really start Reducing debt and you know, we were sitting on the biggest pile of liquid gold anywhere in the world bigger than Saudi Arabia bigger than Russia and we were going to drill and we were going to make so much money.

01:54:44.000 We were going to supply Europe with oil.

01:54:46.000 I had stopped the Russian pipeline and we were going to supply them with oil and gas.

01:54:50.000 We were gonna make a fortune and then the COVID came in and we really had to divert.

01:54:58.000 Then what happened is when they came in, you know, we kept a lot of businesses alive.

01:55:02.000 If I didn't do what we did, we would have had a 1929 type depression.

01:55:06.000 But the problem is when Biden came in, he got trillions of dollars 0.99

01:55:11.000 and just started spending it stupidly. 0.99

01:55:12.000 You didn't need it anymore. 0.98

01:55:14.000 You know, we got over that bad period where it was everybody was dying and, you know, it was it was just not a good period.

01:55:21.000 Interestingly, you know, during his administration, many more people died during his administration of COVID.

01:55:30.000 than during my administration.

01:55:32.000 And we really got the brunt of it.

01:55:34.000 But people don't realize more people died during his administration than ours.

01:55:38.000 But it diverted us from doing what I wanted to do.

01:55:42.000 But we had the greatest for, you know, almost three years.

01:55:45.000 We had the great, and you know that probably better than anybody.

01:55:48.000 So many of your friends said to me, the best years we've ever had in business were during the Trump years.

01:55:55.000 And also said that African-American, Hispanic-American were so incredible.

01:56:03.000 They were having the best Asian-American women, men, young people without a diploma, young people that graduated from the best colleges, from MIT, from the Wharton School, from all of the great colleges, Harvard.

01:56:17.000 They were doing better and people without a diploma were doing better.

01:56:20.000 And everybody was happy.

01:56:23.000 And then COVID came.

01:56:25.000 The problem is they spent trillions and trillions of dollars.

01:56:28.000 They wasted.

01:56:29.000 They shouldn't have taken any money and we wouldn't be having inflation right now.

01:56:33.000 We're killing our country.

01:56:36.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:56:37.000 I mean, I should probably say something about, like, you know, maybe my views on, you know, climate change and oil and gas, because I think I'm probably different from what most people would assume.

01:56:49.000 Because my views are actually pretty, I think, moderate in this regard, which is that I don't think we should rely on the oil and gas industry.

01:56:57.000 and the people that have worked very hard in those industries to provide the necessary energy

01:57:02.000 to support the economy. And if we were to stop using oil and gas right now, we would all be

01:57:07.000 starving and the economy would collapse. So, I don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil

01:57:14.000 and gas industry. And the world has a certain demand for oil and gas, and it's probably better

01:57:22.000 if the United States provides that than some other countries. And it would help with prosperity in

01:57:28.000 the U.S.

01:57:29.000 And at the same time, obviously, my view is, like, we do over time want to move to a sustainable energy economy, because eventually you do run out of, I mean, you run out of oil and gas.

01:57:41.000 It's not infinite.

01:57:44.000 And there is some risk.

01:57:46.000 I think the risk is not as high as a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming.

01:57:52.000 But I think if you just keep increasing the parts per million in the atmosphere long enough, eventually it actually simply gets uncomfortable to breathe.

01:58:02.000 People don't realize this.

01:58:03.000 If you go past a thousand parts per million of CO2, you start getting headaches and nausea.

01:58:11.000 And so we're now in the sort of 400 range.

01:58:14.000 We're adding I think about roughly two parts per million per year.

01:58:19.000 So I mean still gives us.

01:58:20.000 So what it means is like we still have quite a bit of time.

01:58:24.000 But but so there's not like we don't need to rush and we don't need to like you know stop farmers from farming or.

01:58:31.000 You know, uh, prevent people from having steaks or basic stuff like that.

01:58:36.000 Like leave the farmers alone.

01:58:38.000 How crazy is that?

01:58:40.000 Where, I mean, you have farmers that are not allowed to farm anymore and have to get rid of their cattle and the whole, uh, whole world.

01:58:46.000 But it's largely taken its lead from us.

01:58:51.000 I do say though, I've heard in terms of the fossil fuel, because even to, uh, Create your electric car and create the electricity needed for the electric car.

01:59:03.000 You know, fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants.

01:59:07.000 And, you know, so you sort of can't get away from it at this moment.

01:59:10.000 I mean, someday you might be able to.

01:59:12.000 But I do hear we have anywhere from 100 to 500 years left.

01:59:16.000 You know, much of it hasn't even been found yet.

01:59:18.000 Yeah.

01:59:18.000 But there are tremendous like ANWR.

01:59:20.000 I got ANWR in Alaska approved.

01:59:23.000 Ronald Reagan couldn't do it.

01:59:24.000 Nobody could do it.

01:59:25.000 Everybody tried.

01:59:26.000 Nobody could do it.

01:59:27.000 I got it approved.

01:59:28.000 The first thing that Biden did was unimprove it to get rid of it.

01:59:34.000 He ended it.

01:59:35.000 His his secretary went in and she ended it.

01:59:40.000 And what a what a disgrace.

01:59:41.000 That's Anwar. 0.84

01:59:42.000 That's bigger or they think it could be bigger than Saudi Arabia in Alaska.

01:59:47.000 Could be bigger than Saudi Arabia.

01:59:49.000 But they went in and they terminated it.

01:59:51.000 And I'll get it going very quickly, because not only is it big for Alaska.

01:59:55.000 I mean, you talk about economic development.

01:59:58.000 That for the United States, I mean, that that is they say bigger than Saudi Arabia or the same size and pure, really good stuff.

02:00:07.000 And, you know, they end it.

02:00:09.000 So I think we have, you know, perhaps hundreds of years left.

02:00:12.000 Nobody really knows.

02:00:13.000 But during that time, something will come around that will be very good.

02:00:18.000 Yeah.

02:00:19.000 Well, I mean, my estimate would be, you know, a little more.

02:00:23.000 Aggressive than that, but it's not the sort of like we're all gonna die in five years stuff that that's obviously BS But I mean my view is like if you just look at sort of the positive million That increments every year, you know, you get sort of two or three parts per million every year of co2 I mean my I think Some of that it's problematic if it accelerates if you start going from two or three to say five and then there may be some situations where you get Just a step change increase in the co2 and I think it we don't we don't want to get too close to a thousand ppm because like that's that's actually Makes it uncomfortable to to to breathe like just existing in a thousand ppm co2 is uncomfortable.

02:01:11.000 That's like a That's considered like an industrial hazard, right?

02:01:15.000 just so so it's You know, that's actually, you start getting headaches and stuff, so it's, even without global warming, it's not comfortable to live in.

02:01:23.000 So you don't want to get too close to that, but, I mean, I think we've got, I think we want to just move over, and if, I don't know, 50 to 100 years from now, we're, Yeah, we're, I don't know, mostly sustainable.

02:01:38.000 I think that'll probably be okay.

02:01:41.000 So it's not like the house is on fire immediately, but I think it is something we need to move towards.

02:01:48.000 And on balance, it's probably better to move there faster than slower.

02:01:55.000 But like I said, without vilifying the oil and gas industry, And without causing hardship in the short term.

02:02:02.000 I think this can be done.

02:02:07.000 People can still have a stake and they can still drive gasoline cars.

02:02:14.000 It's okay.

02:02:15.000 I don't think we should vilify people for it, but I think we should just generally lean in the direction of sustainability.

02:02:23.000 And I actually think solar is going to be a majority of Earth's energy generation in the future, and it's certainly trending that way.

02:02:33.000 And so you get the solar power, you combine that with batteries, because obviously the sun doesn't shine at night, and then you use that to charge the electric cars, and you have a long-term sustainable solution.

02:02:46.000 And you know, that's that's what Tesla's trying to move things towards. 1.00

02:02:48.000 And I think we've made a lot of progress and progress in that regard.

02:02:51.000 But when you look at our cars, we'd like we don't believe that environmentalism that caring about the environment should should mean that you have to suffer.

02:02:58.000 So we make sure that our cars are are beautiful, that they drive well, that they're fast there.

02:03:03.000 I don't know about the sexy part.

02:03:05.000 Sexiest stretch.

02:03:05.000 S-3-X-Y.

02:03:05.000 I mean, the sexy joke, Model S, Model 3, Model X and Y spells out sexy.

02:03:10.000 It's probably the most expensive joke out there.

02:03:12.000 But I, you know, I just, I don't know, I like cheesy humor, you know, so.

02:03:16.000 S3XY. 0.84

02:03:18.000 But I'm, I'm, I'm, I think I have an inspiring future and let's, let's work towards, you know, a better future and we'll

02:03:27.000 do so without demonizing.

02:03:28.000 Right.

02:03:28.000 I'm okay.

02:03:30.000 You know, it's very interesting.

02:03:31.000 You use the word global warming and today they use the word climate change because, you know, you have some places that go up and so they were getting themselves in a little trouble with the word global warming because not every place is warming.

02:03:43.000 Some places are going the opposite direction.

02:03:46.000 You know, I'm sort of waiting for you to come up with solar panels on the roofs of your cars and on the trunks of the cars.

02:03:53.000 It just seems like something that at some point you will come up with.

02:03:56.000 I'm sure you'll be the first.

02:03:58.000 But it would seem that a solar panel on the roofs, you know, on flat surfaces, on certain surfaces might be good.

02:04:05.000 At least in certain areas of the country where you have the, or the world, where you have the sun.

02:04:10.000 I would think, and I have no idea because that's not my world, but I would think that this would be something that would be interesting.

02:04:17.000 But you know, the one thing that I don't understand is that people talk about global warming or they talk about climate change, but they never talk about nuclear warming.

02:04:27.000 And for me, that's an immediate problem because you have, as I said, five countries where you have major nuclear and, you know, probably some others are getting there and that's, Very dangerous.

02:04:38.000 That's where you need a strong American president because you just you don't want to have this proliferation.

02:04:43.000 But you have five countries and getting more.

02:04:47.000 You know, China is much less than us right now, but they're going to catch us sooner than people think. 1.00

02:04:53.000 They're way lower.

02:04:54.000 Russia and us are number one.

02:04:57.000 And we were sort of tied.

02:04:59.000 And China is far behind.

02:05:00.000 But they're developing at a level that, you know, you're not surprised to hear very fast.

02:05:05.000 It's going to they'll end up catching up.

02:05:07.000 Maybe even surpassing.

02:05:09.000 But to me, the biggest problem is not climate change.

02:05:13.000 It's not.

02:05:15.000 And everything's, you know, a problem.

02:05:17.000 But to me, the big problem is the nuclear power.

02:05:20.000 The power of nuclear is so great.

02:05:24.000 And when I talk about I'll prevent World War Three, I will. 0.92

02:05:29.000 But the truth is that You have to, because this is no longer army tanks going back and forth and shooting at each other.

02:05:35.000 This is a level of destruction and power that nobody's ever seen before.

02:05:42.000 Yeah, actually, there's the bad side of nuclear, which is nuclear war, very bad side.

02:05:47.000 But there's also, I think, nuclear electricity generation is underrated.

02:05:52.000 You're right.

02:05:53.000 And it's actually, you know, people have this fear of nuclear.

02:05:57.000 nuclear electricity generation, but it's actually one of the safest forms of electricity generation.

02:06:03.000 It's just a huge misunderstanding. And if you look at the injuries and deaths caused by, say,

02:06:10.000 I mean, I'm not going to try to pick on coal mining, but just any kind of mining operation.

02:06:13.000 And there's a certain number of injuries and deaths per year. And you compare that to nuclear,

02:06:19.000 nuclear is actually way better. So it's underrated as an electricity source. And I think it's

02:06:25.000 It's something that's worth reconsidering, but there's so much regulation that people

02:06:29.000 can't get it done.

02:06:30.000 Um, so that, you know, maybe they'll have to change the name.

02:06:33.000 The name is just, it's a rough name.

02:06:35.000 There are some areas like, like when you see what happened in Japan, we'll have to rebrand it.

02:06:40.000 We'll have to give it a good name.

02:06:42.000 We'll name it after you or something, you know?

02:06:46.000 Hey, it has a branding problem.

02:06:47.000 You know, when you see what happened, when you see what happened in Japan, where they say you won't be able to go on the land for about 3000 years.

02:06:55.000 Did you ever see that?

02:06:57.000 And in Russia, where they had the problem, where they, You know, there's a lot of bad things happened and they have a problem.

02:07:03.000 And they say that in 2000 years, people will start to occupy the land again.

02:07:08.000 You know, you realize it's pretty bad, but it's actually not that bad.

02:07:14.000 So like after Fukushima happened in Japan, like people were asking me in California, You know, are we worried about like a nuclear cloud coming from Japan?

02:07:22.000 I'm like, no, that's crazy.

02:07:24.000 It's, it's actually, it's not even dangerous in Fukushima.

02:07:26.000 I actually flew there and, and, and ate locally grown vegetables on TV.

02:07:30.000 That is wildly not true.

02:07:32.000 And I donated that.

02:07:34.000 I was there.

02:07:35.000 Our fixer died of cancer.

02:07:37.000 System for a water treatment plant.

02:07:39.000 Yeah, but you haven't been feeling so well lately and I'm worried about it.

02:07:43.000 It's fine.

02:07:44.000 You know, it's, it's like, uh, You know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, but now they're like full city again.

02:07:53.000 That's true.

02:07:57.000 It's not as scary as people think, basically.

02:08:00.000 Let's see, I mean, are there some other topics we should touch on?

02:08:04.000 Oh, you know, like lawfare, I think, you know, we need to be concerned about.

02:08:08.000 What they've done to this country.

02:08:09.000 Obviously.

02:08:11.000 Yeah, well, we just won the big case in Florida.

02:08:13.000 This was a Biden administration did something that's never been done in this country.

02:08:19.000 And that's go after their political opponent, me, with this nonsense and just nonsense.

02:08:24.000 And the big case in Florida, we won.

02:08:27.000 But they've always they always pick a judge and a jury and they use local DAs.

02:08:32.000 They use the local attorney generals like Fani, you know, Fani, spelled F-A-N-I, Fani.

02:08:41.000 And it's all a big hoax.

02:08:42.000 And it's all run from there.

02:08:44.000 Like in Manhattan, one of the top people from the Justice Department went in and ran Manhattan, ran the state.

02:08:51.000 The Letitia James deal was run by a person from the Department of Justice, Biden. 0.97

02:08:57.000 They've never done this before.

02:08:58.000 And they set up a very bad precedent.

02:09:02.000 It's called lawfare, warfare.

02:09:05.000 It's a, it's a terrible thing and never happened in our country.

02:09:08.000 It does happen in banana republics and third world countries, but it's never happened.

02:09:13.000 And the incredible thing is it actually drove my numbers up because people see, you know, fortunately I have a platform like you or, you know, in all fairness, like a conversation like this where I can talk about it and people understand.

02:09:27.000 I mean, you, you fight for election integrity and you end up getting indicted.

02:09:32.000 No, because you're fighting for election integrity.

02:09:35.000 And when the day comes that you can't fight for election integrity, you don't have a country anymore.

02:09:39.000 So what happens, what happens is they went after their political opponent, me.

02:09:44.000 Now Biden's, uh, you know, close to vegetable stage, in my opinion.

02:09:49.000 Okay.

02:09:50.000 I looked at him today on the beach and I said, why would anybody allow him?

02:09:54.000 The guy could barely walk.

02:09:56.000 Why would anybody allow him?

02:09:57.000 Does he have a political advisor that thinks this looks good? 0.98

02:10:02.000 Uh, you know, he thinks this looks good because it looks so bad and it's, it's ridiculous. 0.88

02:10:08.000 I mean, he's been doing that for a long time.

02:10:11.000 It's meant for children and old people to lift and he can't lift it. 0.99

02:10:19.000 The whole thing is crazy.

02:10:20.000 It's clearly, I mean, it's clearly like we just don't have a president.

02:10:23.000 You don't have a president and he's going to be worse than him because he, Is a San Francisco liberal who destroyed San Francisco and then as Attorney General, she destroyed California.

02:10:36.000 You talk about location and we're talking about the sun and the water and all.

02:10:40.000 There's nothing better than California.

02:10:42.000 She has destroyed that.

02:10:43.000 She was the original DA.

02:10:45.000 She was the original in San Francisco.

02:10:47.000 She was the original Attorney General in California.

02:10:50.000 What she has done to California is Well, you know better than I do, you just left California for a lot of those reasons.

02:10:58.000 And what he's done with crime, with cashless bail, where you kill somebody.

02:11:04.000 I mean, we have states there, you kill somebody and they let you out right away.

02:11:07.000 I mean, you don't have to even put up and then they never find the people unless they kill again and then they let them out again.

02:11:14.000 Our country is becoming a very dangerous place, and she is a radical left San Francisco liberal, and now she's trying to protect, now she's looking like she wants to be more Trump than Trump, if that's possible. 0.98

02:11:28.000 I don't think it's possible.

02:11:29.000 But she wants to be more Trump than Trump.

02:11:31.000 I want a wall.

02:11:33.000 You know, she wants to release all the prisoners that are in detention, and some of these guys are really bad.

02:11:39.000 That just came out today.

02:11:41.000 She doesn't want to build the wall, even though the walls work.

02:11:44.000 Walls and wheels.

02:11:45.000 You know, in your business, everything you do is obsolete.

02:11:47.000 Well, not the tunnels, but everything is obsolete.

02:11:50.000 Even your rocket ships, they're like a month later, they're obsolete.

02:11:54.000 You find a better way to... The only thing that's not obsolete is a wall and a wheel.

02:11:58.000 And the wall, you know, I built hundreds of miles of wall, and that's why we had such good numbers.

02:12:05.000 I was going to add 200 miles.

02:12:07.000 We bought it.

02:12:08.000 We could have flipped it, flipped it up in three weeks and they sold it for five cents on the dollar.

02:12:14.000 That meant, I said, wow, that means that they actually do want to have open borders.

02:12:18.000 She wants to have open borders and now she's going like she's tough on the, on the border. 1.00

02:12:24.000 It's such a lie.

02:12:25.000 This is simply not true.

02:12:26.000 This is simply not true.

02:12:27.000 And everybody knows it's not true.

02:12:28.000 It's a disgrace that she didn't say it.

02:12:31.000 No, I mean, obviously what's happening sort of overnight is they're rewriting history and making Kamala sound like a moderate when in fact she is far left, like far, far left.

02:12:43.000 Worse than Bernie Sanders.

02:12:45.000 She is considered more liberal by far than Bernie Sanders.

02:12:49.000 That's misleading. 0.99

02:12:49.000 He's a radical left lunatic. 0.99

02:12:51.000 That's only because Kamala- He's going to be our president. 0.99

02:12:54.000 Very quickly, you're not going to have a country anymore.

02:12:56.000 She'll go back to all of the things that she believes in.

02:12:59.000 She believes in defunding the police.

02:13:01.000 She believes in no fracking.

02:13:03.000 Zero.

02:13:03.000 Now all of a sudden she's saying, I know I will.

02:13:08.000 I really want to see fracking.

02:13:11.000 If they got in, the day she got in, she'll end fracking. 1.00

02:13:14.000 And by the way, if people didn't think that, the lunatics that really believe in that, they won't vote for her. 0.51

02:13:21.000 You know, like the Palestinians and Israel. 0.93

02:13:26.000 She is so anti-Israel.

02:13:29.000 And she's bad for both.

02:13:30.000 Biden actually did something that was impossible.

02:13:32.000 Both sides hate him.

02:13:34.000 You know, both sides.

02:13:35.000 That was a hard thing to do.

02:13:37.000 Unification.

02:13:39.000 Yeah, no, no, I mean, Netanyahu came to give a talk to a joint Senate and House sitting, and I was there, and Kamala stood him up.

02:13:52.000 What does that say?

02:13:54.000 I think it's highly disrespectful.

02:13:56.000 And I say, if you're a Jewish person or if you believe in Israel, if you're a person that, you know, is very pro-Israel, if you vote for her, it's worse than Biden.

02:14:07.000 And Biden was bad.

02:14:08.000 But if you vote for her, you ought to have your head examined.

02:14:11.000 And you see tonight, I mean, as we're doing this, I'm seeing reports coming that they expect an attack tonight or tomorrow from hundreds and maybe thousands of rockets.

02:14:21.000 You know, their Iron Dome, as they call it, as we all call it, but their shield that they built, that can be swamped.

02:14:30.000 We'll use the term that's appropriate, swamped.

02:14:32.000 But they swamp it by shooting enough missiles.

02:14:35.000 You know this better than anybody, by shooting enough missiles.

02:14:38.000 They can't defend themselves.

02:14:40.000 You know, they just obliterate the whole place.

02:14:42.000 And that's what some people think they're looking to do.

02:14:47.000 And we have no leadership.

02:14:48.000 There's no respect for the United States of America with these people.

02:14:52.000 And I'm telling you, you'll be worse than him because he's a believer in being radical left and he wasn't.

02:14:59.000 I think you're right.

02:14:59.000 I mean, it really is important for the public that may be listening to this to say, to look at Kamala's track record.

02:15:06.000 You know, before the last, like, month, and say, uh, is that a track record you agree with?

02:15:12.000 Um, and I think if you're an independent, uh, moderate, you definitely would not agree with it.

02:15:17.000 Um, because it is, uh, her behavior has been far left, and we're seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt to rewrite history and make it sound like Kamala's moderate when she, in fact, is not moderate.

02:15:28.000 Well, her, uh, her running mate, uh, approved, signed into legislation, tampons in boys' bathrooms, okay? 0.64

02:15:37.000 Now, that's all I have to hear.

02:15:38.000 Tampons in boys' bathrooms.

02:15:41.000 And that means she believes in that, too.

02:15:43.000 I mean, she picked this guy because he was the closest to her.

02:15:48.000 A lot of people thought she'd pick sort of the opposite, but she picked an anti-Israel, radical left person.

02:15:55.000 But she is far worse, they say, than Bernie Sanders.

02:15:59.000 If we have her as a president, if we have a Democrat at this moment as a president, I don't think our country can survive.

02:16:08.000 I think we're in massive trouble, frankly, with the Kamala administration, and that's my honest opinion.

02:16:16.000 And I think really it's essential that you win for the good of the country this election.

02:16:26.000 I'm just stating my opinion.

02:16:29.000 Now, you may have seen this, but I got a letter from the Well, I know the European Union very well.

02:16:36.000 like saying, you know, to not have disinformation on, uh, like during this discussion that we're

02:16:42.000 having, like, and you know, there's like, there's, there's a lot of attempts to do censorship and to

02:16:48.000 force censorship, even on Americans, uh, from other countries. And, um, you know, what do you

02:16:54.000 think about that? Well, I know the, uh, European union very well. They take great advantage of the

02:17:00.000 United States in trade. As you know, we, uh, through a different form, NATO, uh, we protect them.

02:17:08.000 And yet, if you build a car in the United States, you can't sell it in Europe.

02:17:13.000 You just can't sell it.

02:17:14.000 It's impossible.

02:17:16.000 The same thing with our farmers.

02:17:17.000 Our farmers find it very difficult to do business.

02:17:19.000 You know, we have a deficit with them of $250 billion, which people don't know.

02:17:25.000 It sounds so nice, the European Union, but let me tell you, they're not as tough as China, but they're bad. 0.98

02:17:31.000 And I let them know it.

02:17:33.000 And that's probably why they notified you.

02:17:36.000 No, they don't treat our country well.

02:17:38.000 We defend them, you know, with Ukraine.

02:17:42.000 So we're in for $250 billion and they're in for about $71 billion.

02:17:47.000 And they have the same size.

02:17:48.000 If you add up the European nations in terms of an economy, it's about the same size, wouldn't you say, as us.

02:17:55.000 And they're in much greater risk.

02:18:00.000 They're right there.

02:18:01.000 We have an ocean separating us from In this case, the enemy would be Russia used to be for the Soviet Union.

02:18:08.000 But let's assume they're close enough.

02:18:10.000 What happens is they're in for 70 something million.

02:18:15.000 I think I think even less than that billion.

02:18:18.000 And we're in for about 250 billion.

02:18:22.000 And it could be a lot higher than that.

02:18:24.000 And I say, why aren't you going to equalize?

02:18:26.000 Why aren't they paying what we're paying?

02:18:29.000 And they're in much more, you know, there it's much more important for them because of the fact that, you know, they're right near there.

02:18:35.000 I mean, they're all sort of in that location.

02:18:37.000 We're not, but they should, they should.

02:18:40.000 And I did it with NATO.

02:18:42.000 We were, there were only seven countries that were paid up in NATO out of 28 at the time.

02:18:49.000 The United States was subsidizing, the United States was subsidizing NATO, tremendously subsidizing NATO.

02:18:56.000 And I said, I went in and I said, you got to pay up.

02:18:58.000 If you don't pay up, we're not going to defend you any longer.

02:19:01.000 I took a lot of heat, but you know what happened?

02:19:03.000 Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in.

02:19:06.000 And yeah, I think, I think a lot of the public isn't, isn't aware of the fact that the United States pays a disproportionate share of, of the NATO expenses.

02:19:15.000 And then we get taken advantage of on trade.

02:19:18.000 So think about it.

02:19:19.000 Well, I mean, the point of NATO is defending Europe.

02:19:21.000 And it's, you know, it's like, OK, well, why is the United States paying disproportionately more to defend Europe than Europe?

02:19:30.000 That doesn't make sense.

02:19:32.000 That is an appropriate thing to address.

02:19:35.000 Well, you know, when you talk about cost cutting and savings and everything else, I mean, honestly, look, there's nobody that feels worse about the Ukraine situation than I do, because I know it would have never happened.

02:19:46.000 I know Zelensky.

02:19:48.000 He was very honorable to me, because when they went with the Russia hoax and they said I had a phone call with him, he said it was a perfect phone call.

02:19:54.000 It was a great phone call.

02:19:55.000 He could have grandstanded and, you know, said, oh, he was very threatening.

02:20:00.000 He said, no, it was a very nice phone call.

02:20:02.000 I called him up to congratulate him on his win. 0.99

02:20:04.000 And you end up getting impeached because these people are lunatics. 0.96

02:20:09.000 You know, I was talking about the difference from the people within and the enemies on the outside. 0.96

02:20:14.000 In many cases, the people from within are more dangerous for our country than the Russia's and the China's. 1.00

02:20:21.000 If you have a smart president, you're not going to have a problem with them.

02:20:23.000 You're going to make, you're going to do things.

02:20:25.000 Yeah.

02:20:26.000 Now they've taken advantage of us incredibly, but you're going to do things with the right person.

02:20:31.000 Yeah, well, I think it's obvious that you're a believer and an advocate of free speech because during your first time as president, you were attacked relentlessly every day, often very unfairly with false attacks.

02:20:45.000 And you didn't try to shut down the media.

02:20:47.000 You didn't try to inhibit their freedom of speech.

02:20:51.000 And I think that says a lot.

02:20:53.000 Well, the good thing is that you and I have, and some people, very few, we can get the word out.

02:21:00.000 Although sometimes it's hard because they don't want to print it, you know, like like we're having a great conversation right now.

02:21:06.000 Kamala wouldn't have this conversation.

02:21:08.000 She can't because she's not smart. 0.99

02:21:09.000 You know, she's not a smart person, by the way. 0.98

02:21:12.000 She can't have this conversation.

02:21:14.000 And Biden, we don't even have to talk about it.

02:21:16.000 I mean, he couldn't have this conversation.

02:21:18.000 He he would have given up on the first half of a question.

02:21:21.000 He would have walked out.

02:21:22.000 He would have said, where am I?

02:21:24.000 Where am I going?

02:21:25.000 So anyway, but no, he wouldn't have this.

02:21:27.000 That's true.

02:21:28.000 Not a lot of people would have this conversation, but you know, we cover a lot of territory, but the beauty is that you, you know, we can have a conversation and.

02:21:37.000 I'm able to get it out because I get to be there.

02:21:40.000 This is a really big point.

02:21:41.000 You can actually have a conversation with you.

02:21:44.000 Yeah, it's nice, isn't it?

02:21:45.000 And you can't have a conversation with Biden or Kamala.

02:21:48.000 It's not possible.

02:21:49.000 It's like talking to an NPC.

02:21:51.000 But think of it.

02:21:52.000 We need a man.

02:21:56.000 Or a person who's unbelievably sharp in order to stop all the nuclear danger and all the dangers that I'm talking about.

02:22:04.000 And I got along with all these.

02:22:05.000 You know, I got along with Kim Jong-un.

02:22:07.000 We had dinner, we had everything.

02:22:09.000 And he really liked me and I got along with him really well.

02:22:13.000 By the way, he's the absolute boss over there.

02:22:15.000 You know, a lot of people said, oh, do you think he really?

02:22:17.000 Yeah, that's for sure.

02:22:18.000 Let me tell you, I saw things that you don't want to know about.

02:22:21.000 He is the boss.

02:22:22.000 But we had a good relationship.

02:22:25.000 And he doesn't like Biden. 1.00

02:22:27.000 He considers him a stupid man, he said. 1.00

02:22:30.000 He's a stupid man. 1.00

02:22:31.000 Well, at least he speaks his mind. 1.00

02:22:33.000 But, you know, in this country, you're not sort of allowed to say it, but I guess you are.

02:22:36.000 You should be allowed to say it.

02:22:38.000 But we need really, we need smart people and we need people that have an ability to lead.

02:22:45.000 And she doesn't have that ability. 0.98

02:22:46.000 Can you imagine?

02:22:47.000 Now, you know, Chairman Xi very well.

02:22:50.000 Can you imagine her and him negotiating? 0.95

02:22:53.000 Even standing together, the whole concept is ridiculous. 1.00

02:22:57.000 She is terrible. 1.00

02:22:58.000 She is terrible. 0.97

02:22:59.000 But he's getting a free ride.

02:23:00.000 I saw a picture of her on Time Magazine today.

02:23:04.000 She looks like the most beautiful actress ever.

02:23:06.000 It was a drawing.

02:23:08.000 Actually, she looked very much like our great First Lady, Melania.

02:23:15.000 She didn't look like Camilla, that's right, but of course she's a beautiful woman, so we'll leave it at that, right?

02:23:22.000 Yeah, well, you know, maybe, like, I think part of what, you know, people in America want to, you know, people in America want to feel excited and inspired about the future.

02:23:31.000 They want to feel like the future is going to be better than the past, and that America's going to do things that are greater than we've done in the past, reach new heights that make you proud to be an American and excited about the future.

02:23:44.000 They want the American dream back.

02:23:47.000 You know, they want the American dream back more important than anything else. 0.99

02:23:51.000 It's like you don't have that today because the people they've been just suck. 0.95

02:23:56.000 They see incompetent people running our, you know, the Biden thing is very interesting. 0.99

02:24:01.000 People just found him to be incompetent.

02:24:04.000 And when I debated him, I was like, Is this for real? 0.58

02:24:09.000 Yeah, it was just absurd.

02:24:12.000 But I think there are some grand projects that we could do.

02:24:17.000 I mean, I think we could build a base on the moon.

02:24:21.000 We could send American astronauts to Mars.

02:24:23.000 We could build high-speed connections that are more advanced than anything else in the world between our cities, so people have fast transport.

02:24:32.000 It's possible to solve traffic with tunnels.

02:24:37.000 We've already made great progress in Vegas doing that.

02:24:41.000 And just do things that are exciting and inspiring and make the future feel like it's better than the past.

02:24:47.000 Well, I saw what you did in Vegas, and I'll tell you, it was amazing.

02:24:50.000 I got to see, I took a big glimpse at it, and it's incredible.

02:24:54.000 It's incredible.

02:24:55.000 And you could do that all over.

02:24:56.000 You could do that all over.

02:24:59.000 It's deep?

02:24:59.000 Yeah.

02:25:00.000 You don't even need much structure?

02:25:01.000 No, it's just straightforward.

02:25:04.000 It's amazing.

02:25:07.000 I think we could do some things like try to get an incredible high-speed rail between its cities, but I think it's actually possible with tunnels.

02:25:16.000 If it was deregulation with an ability to actually Where it's like legal to actually do the tunnels, then you could have high-speed tunnels that are actually better than anything else in the world for high-speed transport between cities.

02:25:32.000 And that would be something that, you know, Americans can say, wow, okay, we've got something that's cooler than anyone else in the world.

02:25:39.000 That's the kind of thing that makes you proud to be an American.

02:25:41.000 And much safer than surface trains, where there is a danger there, you know, with people, with crazy people.

02:25:48.000 It's much safer, much better.

02:25:50.000 And you know, it's sad because I've seen some of the greatest trains.

02:25:53.000 I find it fascinating.

02:25:55.000 And I've seen the systems and how they work and the bullet trains, they call them, I guess.

02:25:59.000 And they go unbelievably fast, unbelievably comfortable with no problems.

02:26:05.000 And we don't have anything like that in this country, not even close.

02:26:09.000 And it doesn't make sense that we don't.

02:26:12.000 Doesn't make sense.

02:26:13.000 Yeah, I think also like there's, you know, kind of hopping on the excess regulation, but I think something that I think people can generally understand is that what happens with laws and regulations is that there's more and more of them every year.

02:26:28.000 And unless there's a process to clean them up, eventually everything becomes illegal.

02:26:32.000 And that actually slows down the development of new technologies.

02:26:36.000 I mean, if you take the sort of, like, I think there's room for some reform at the FDA for improving the speed with which we approve drugs that could help save lives and improve people's lives.

02:26:51.000 I worked very hard on that.

02:26:52.000 We got that down to the lowest number ever.

02:26:56.000 And we got therapeutics approved in the FDA that people can't even believe this means.

02:27:02.000 But I took them on.

02:27:03.000 I don't think they like me too much, but I got things approved in the FDA at numbers

02:27:09.000 that they wouldn't believe.

02:27:10.000 And, you know, it's a very bureaucratic group.

02:27:13.000 Actually, it's a fine group of people in many cases.

02:27:16.000 I got to know a lot of them, but I was pushing them really hard for regenerants, for so many different things that were really pretty amazing.

02:27:24.000 But the FDA takes too long.

02:27:27.000 It's 12 years to get a product approved.

02:27:29.000 I got it down to four.

02:27:30.000 What do you think on a scale of one to ten?

02:27:31.000 I got some things done very quickly, but it's...

02:27:35.000 It's really something that is going to have to be worked on because it takes too long.

02:27:40.000 Yeah.

02:27:40.000 I mean, it just takes too long and it's the same with the approval, but it just, it's just, and people are mad.

02:27:48.000 Some people are like, yeah, I agree.

02:27:49.000 Other people are like, what?

02:27:51.000 Seven is good.

02:27:52.000 It's just not like... It's nothing groundbreaking, but it is nice to hear him.

02:27:56.000 I just wanted to hop on this point that there has to be an active process for reducing rules and regulations because otherwise they just keep building up every year and it's like hardening of the arteries and eventually everything's illegal or takes forever and then we just...

02:28:16.000 We just ossify as a society.

02:28:19.000 I can't imagine what a 10 would look like.

02:28:20.000 We can't make any progress, and it's a really big deal.

02:28:23.000 Well, you know, Elon, just getting back to the FDA for one second, I got something done called Right to Try.

02:28:27.000 This is where you can go in and, if you're terminally ill, you can use a space-age medicine or whatever it may be.

02:28:36.000 We have the best doctors, the best labs in the world.

02:28:38.000 We really do.

02:28:40.000 But people would go to other countries because you couldn't use this, the product, even if they thought it worked because it's going through the FDA.

02:28:47.000 I got it approved where you can, you basically, you look, nobody went, the doctors didn't want it because of the liability.

02:28:53.000 The country didn't want it, our country, because they didn't want to get sued.

02:28:56.000 These are people terminally ill.

02:28:58.000 The insurance companies didn't want it.

02:29:00.000 And the pharmaceutical companies, nobody wanted it.

02:29:02.000 I got everybody into a room and we came up with an agreement that you won't get sued.

02:29:08.000 And also, they didn't want it on their record.

02:29:10.000 If somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on their record.

02:29:14.000 So we set a separate list, so it wouldn't count as a negative.

02:29:20.000 And as you know, we got it done.

02:29:21.000 We have saved, right to try.

02:29:23.000 They've been trying to get this done for 15 years.

02:29:26.000 28 years.

02:29:27.000 And it sounds simple, but it wasn't.

02:29:28.000 I'm pretty confident it's a deal.

02:29:29.000 I mean, you know, the insurance companies, nobody wanted it, but we got it done.

02:29:33.000 Somebody signs, you sign a document that you're not going to sue the insurance companies, the country, you're not going to sue anybody.

02:29:40.000 And we got it done.

02:29:41.000 And we're saving tens of thousands of lives.

02:29:44.000 Right to try.

02:29:45.000 Hopefully you never need it.

02:29:47.000 But if you do, you don't have to travel to Asia.

02:29:50.000 You know, people, if they had money, they go to Asia, they go to Europe.

02:29:53.000 If they don't have money, they go home and die.

02:29:54.000 That's what happened. 0.94

02:29:55.000 They'd go home and die.

02:29:58.000 Well, I mean, actually, to give you some props here, it's like if a drug is approved in Europe, which has a crazy amount of regulations, it should obviously be approved in the U.S.

02:30:08.000 I mean, they have more regulations than we do.

02:30:11.000 So why would a drug be approved in Europe and not in the U.S.?

02:30:14.000 That's crazy.

02:30:14.000 Well, we did it.

02:30:15.000 We did something that really, they've been trying to do it for 50 years and they just couldn't get it done.

02:30:20.000 And I got it done.

02:30:21.000 And it's really something.

02:30:23.000 But you're right.

02:30:24.000 Some people go to Europe because a drug isn't approved here, but it's approved in Europe, and it's a drug that, generally speaking, would work.

02:30:31.000 It's pretty crazy.

02:30:32.000 Absolutely.

02:30:32.000 You're right.

02:30:33.000 And I think as long as people are properly informed of the pros and cons, and, like, these are the risks, this is the risk, and, like, you make your own decision, that makes sense.

02:30:44.000 Well, I think just, you know, in sort of closing up, and by the way, I'm looking at the numbers.

02:30:48.000 You got a lot of people listening.

02:30:50.000 Sounds great.

02:30:51.000 I hope you don't get nervous because you got a lot of people listening to you right now, like 60 million or something.

02:30:56.000 As it gets later on and it gets more relaxed.

02:30:58.000 It's amazing how you can see that right away.

02:31:01.000 How many, what is the number?

02:31:02.000 People are starting to drop off though.

02:31:03.000 I mean, we're still over a million, so.

02:31:09.000 He's counting.

02:31:10.000 Well, I think that's bigger than you said.

02:31:15.000 You said 25 and you're more than much more than double that number, 25 million.

02:31:19.000 I think you're going to be 60 or 70.

02:31:21.000 And I guess over a period of time, Hey, that's, I congratulate you.

02:31:25.000 Do I get paid for this or not?

02:31:30.000 Well, I think actually in terms of the number of people that will hear this conversation, Um, over the next, uh, few days, two weeks, uh, it's going to be hundreds.

02:31:40.000 That's what they say.

02:31:41.000 Yeah, that's good.

02:31:41.000 Well, look, it's an honor.

02:31:43.000 I, but I, I just asked this, are you better off now or were you better off when I was president?

02:31:50.000 Nobody's better off now.

02:31:51.000 People, you know, we put out polls on that and nobody's better off now.

02:31:55.000 Inflation has killed it.

02:31:57.000 And you know, they also feel very unsafe.

02:31:59.000 You look at what's going on with a lot of different things.

02:32:02.000 You look at the riots we had in the colleges over, I mean, it's ridiculous, but all of the rest, they just feel unsafe.

02:32:09.000 And now they really feel unsafe because you have a new form of crime.

02:32:12.000 It's called migrant crime. 0.98

02:32:13.000 I call it Biden Migrant Crime. 0.98

02:32:15.000 Maybe I'll call it Kamala Migrant Crime. 1.00

02:32:18.000 But, you know, I mean, with all these things, I always try to, like, try to get to the ground truth by just asking people.

02:32:23.000 And, you know, my mom lives in New York and I was like, You know, mom, you know, do you know, have any of your friends, you know, been attacked or assaulted?

02:32:31.000 And she said, yeah, three of her friends in three separate incidents were assaulted just in recent months, just walking around the streets of New York.

02:32:40.000 And I said, well, what happened to the people that assaulted them?

02:32:43.000 Oh, nothing.

02:32:45.000 They got away.

02:32:45.000 They always get away.

02:32:50.000 And they don't even bother reporting it because There's no, they know that there's not, they're not going to, you know, people are not going to get prosecuted.

02:32:57.000 They just, they just let, you know, violent criminals out in New York.

02:33:02.000 The only one that gets prosecuted is Donald Trump.

02:33:04.000 Yeah.

02:33:07.000 I mean, it's, it's just obviously messed up.

02:33:09.000 It's terrible.

02:33:10.000 Violent criminals are being, are being getting off scot-free.

02:33:14.000 And meanwhile, New York is spending massive resources prosecuting you.

02:33:19.000 And I think the sensible public looks at this and says, what the heck is going on here?

02:33:28.000 This is obviously abuse of the legal system.

02:33:30.000 You know, the legal system is supposed to be protecting the public from violent criminals

02:33:36.000 and it should be obviously allowing the public to make their own decision about who should

02:33:40.000 be president as opposed to, you know, some, you know, legal case.

02:33:46.000 Once they start this precedent, because this can go on with the next one, I mean, this

02:33:49.000 is a very bad precedent what they're doing in terms of, you know, going after their political

02:33:55.000 And that's all it is.

02:33:55.000 It's going after their political opponent.

02:33:56.000 It's the new precedent.

02:33:57.000 I hope it's used against Democrats.

02:33:58.000 And then you get a judge who's, you know, a strong Democrat. 0.95

02:34:02.000 And I'm being nice when I say that in many cases, crooked as hell.

02:34:06.000 But you get a judge and you're going to an area where a Republican gets three or four percent of the vote.

02:34:11.000 And, you know, you'll have a jury pool of people that hate Republicans or hate, it could also be the other way

02:34:19.000 though.

02:34:19.000 Of course.

02:34:20.000 Because it could start the other way in areas where they hate Democrats. 0.92

02:34:22.000 And you get into a Pandora's box, it's a very dangerous thing for this country and a very

02:34:28.000 dangerous thing even for the state.

02:34:30.000 New York City is losing, New York City and state lose a lot of business over what they

02:34:35.000 did to me because these people say, we don't want that to happen to us.

02:34:38.000 That's no justice system. 0.82

02:34:40.000 You have an unfair system of justice and it's costing New York state a tremendous amount of money.

02:34:46.000 People are leaving and companies are leaving and they won't come back.

02:34:49.000 So, you know, all of that stuff is important, but the economy now is the big thing and we can turn that economy up so fast.

02:34:56.000 And people are going to be back again.

02:34:58.000 We're going to get rid of it.

02:34:59.000 I think there's a lot of opportunity.

02:35:01.000 Absolutely.

02:35:02.000 So and I just want to congratulate you.

02:35:05.000 You've done an amazing job.

02:35:06.000 You are you have definitely got a fertile mind.

02:35:09.000 You know, we can talk, you and I can talk about rockets.

02:35:13.000 Tunnels.

02:35:13.000 We can talk about tunnels and rockets and, and, uh, electric cars, so many things.

02:35:19.000 And now you're, you're into the AI and that's going to be another beauty.

02:35:23.000 So it's, uh, it's an amazing, it's an amazing thing you've done, Elon.

02:35:28.000 It's an amazing thing.

02:35:29.000 And I congratulate you.

02:35:31.000 I mean, thank you.

02:35:32.000 And, well, I mean, I just say, you know, here's to an exciting, inspiring future that people can look forward to and be optimistic and excited about what happens next.

02:35:40.000 And that's the kind of future that I think you will bring as president.

02:35:44.000 And that's why I endorse you.

02:35:45.000 Well, I appreciate that.

02:35:46.000 That endorsement meant a lot to me.

02:35:48.000 Not all endorsements mean that much, to be honest.

02:35:50.000 Your endorsement meant a lot.

02:35:52.000 And, you know, we have a phrase, make America great again.

02:35:55.000 It's pretty simple, but it really says that we want to make America great again.

02:35:58.000 And we can do it.

02:35:59.000 We can do it now, but if we were gonna suffer another four years like we've suffered for the last four years, I'm not sure the country can ever come back.

02:36:08.000 That's how bad it is.

02:36:09.000 It's so bad.

02:36:10.000 We have to...

02:36:11.000 We have to do a lot of things.

02:36:12.000 I think that's a very real risk.

02:36:13.000 Yeah, it's a big risk.

02:36:13.000 It's a very real risk.

02:36:15.000 And it's, you know, I'd just like to note to people listening, like, I've not been very political before.

02:36:21.000 And if just, if you look at my track, my record, it's, I've actually been, I'm, I'm, I'm not like some sort of try to paint me as like a far right guy, which is absurd because I like making electric vehicles and, you know, solar and batteries, helping them with the environment.

02:36:33.000 And, uh, And I actually supported Obama.

02:36:39.000 I stood in line for six hours to shake Obama's hand when he was running for president.

02:36:43.000 So it's not like I'm some sort of dyed-in-the-wool, long-term Republican.

02:36:48.000 I call myself historically a moderate Democrat, but now I feel like We're really at a critical juncture for the country.

02:36:58.000 And, you know, I think a lot of people thought, you know, the Biden administration would be a moderate administration, but it's not.

02:37:07.000 And obviously, we're just going to see it.

02:37:11.000 uh... and even further left uh...

02:37:14.000 administration with with comma that's that's my opinion

02:37:18.000 under that is that really uh... it and she was brought up as a cop as an actual

02:37:22.000 it that is a is a is a marxist economist that's

02:37:25.000 you google it i mean it's not a we're not making this up you know

02:37:29.000 uh... that's how she was brought up so uh... and and we we we just we we want to have a future

02:37:35.000 that is prosperous and and i think we just have this critical juncture

02:37:39.000 and uh... and it i think this is a case of

02:37:43.000 the the america

02:37:46.000 uh... is is gonna at a fork in the road and true uh... and i think that they will

02:37:50.000 take it will take a forty eight the the path of repeat like you are the path to

02:37:54.000 prosperity and i think kamala is the opposite That's my honest opinion. 0.65

02:37:58.000 I'm going to get attacked like crazy.

02:38:01.000 I've also experienced quite a bit of lawfare myself.

02:38:05.000 I'm just trying to tell people my honest opinion.

02:38:08.000 I haven't been really active in politics before, and I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate, if not moderate, slightly left.

02:38:19.000 So this is to people out there who are in the moderate camp to say, I think you should support Donald Trump for president.

02:38:27.000 And I think it's actually a very important junction in the road, and we're in deep trouble if it goes the other way.

02:38:33.000 Well, I want to thank you.

02:38:34.000 And, you know, I actually always did think of you as somewhat left.

02:38:37.000 I must say that.

02:38:38.000 So it's even more of an honor to have your endorsement.

02:38:42.000 I know how strong you feel about it.

02:38:44.000 But, you know, when you think of her, San Francisco, 15 years ago, I had a great friend, Bob Tisch.

02:38:49.000 He said it's the greatest city in America.

02:38:52.000 And now it's almost not livable there.

02:38:55.000 And California, likewise, and she was involved in the destruction of San Francisco and the destruction of California. 1.00

02:39:02.000 And she will be involved in the destruction of our country if people are so unwise as to elect her. 1.00

02:39:10.000 And I hope that doesn't happen.

02:39:12.000 And I hope the elections are going to be run honestly.

02:39:15.000 We're going to turn this country around.

02:39:17.000 We're going to, we're going to do things that, and we can do it fairly quickly.

02:39:21.000 And we have to get rid of the criminals that have been, you know, given to us by other countries as they laugh.

02:39:26.000 They laugh at us. 1.00

02:39:27.000 They think we're stupid to accept these people. 1.00

02:39:29.000 These are radical stone cold killers in many cases, cases and terrorists. 1.00

02:39:35.000 And they're in our country by the hundreds of thousands. 0.85

02:39:38.000 Yeah.

02:39:38.000 And we have to take them out.

02:39:41.000 Yeah.

02:39:41.000 I mean, if, if I could summarize it perhaps, you know, I think, These are issues that I think most people in America would agree with, which is that we want safe and clean cities.

02:39:52.000 We want secure borders.

02:39:55.000 We want sensible government spending.

02:39:57.000 We want to restore both the perception and the reality of respect in the judicial system.

02:40:04.000 Stop the lawfare.

02:40:06.000 Um, and, uh, and I think that that's like, and how, how are those even right wing positions?

02:40:12.000 I think those are just, that's just common sense.

02:40:15.000 And, and that's, uh, I mean, would you agree with that?

02:40:19.000 I don't understand, you know, the whole, they call it progressive.

02:40:23.000 They don't like the word liberal anymore, but call it.

02:40:26.000 Yes, definitely.

02:40:26.000 or progressive. I don't understand how somebody could say that it's okay for them to empty

02:40:30.000 prisons into our country. And again, I told you that crime rates all over the world are

02:40:35.000 going way down, which makes sense. In fact, the next time what we'll do is if something

02:40:39.000 happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in

02:40:44.000 Venezuela because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country. Okay. 0.96

02:40:48.000 So we'll go, you and I will go, and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela, because that's what's happening.

02:40:53.000 Their crime rate's coming down, and our crime rate's going through the roof, and it's so simple.

02:40:58.000 And you haven't seen anything yet, because these people have come into our country, and they're just getting acclimated. 1.00

02:41:04.000 And they don't know about being politically correct law enforcement or lack of law enforcement.

02:41:10.000 And our police, I have to just end with this, we have great police, we have great law enforcement, but they're not allowed to do their job.

02:41:17.000 They have to be able to do their job without being destroyed.

02:41:20.000 Well, absolutely.

02:41:22.000 And it's obviously demoralizing if you're a police officer risking your life to, you know, to, you know, to arrest violent criminals who could kill you and do kill you sometimes.

02:41:33.000 Um, and then you, you arrest the violent criminal and then the, the DA, you know, doesn't prosecute and that's let the guy out.

02:41:40.000 Well, then like, why, why should a police officer risk their life, uh, to arrest a violent felon?

02:41:47.000 Well, even worse, even worse, they prosecute the police officer.

02:41:53.000 They go after it and they prosecute the police officer and they take away his pension.

02:41:58.000 They take away his job?

02:41:59.000 He loses his family?

02:42:01.000 He loses his house?

02:42:04.000 I thought it was very telling, like incredibly telling.

02:42:07.000 There was a case where, uh, you know, sort of a gang of thugs beat up, uh, police officers.

02:42:14.000 I think it was in Times Square in New York.

02:42:16.000 And, and, and then nothing happened to those guys.

02:42:19.000 They were, they were let out, zero bail.

02:42:21.000 And I think a bunch of them were given free tickets to California.

02:42:24.000 Well, what is the, I mean, that, that is, That is a gross indignity against the United States.

02:42:30.000 And that's how, I mean, this is insane.

02:42:33.000 Like, have we lost all pride?

02:42:36.000 How can such a thing be allowed to occur?

02:42:38.000 I've never seen anything.

02:42:39.000 You know, we see where they get shot.

02:42:42.000 It's a very dangerous profession, but something they're very proud of and they want to be able to do their job.

02:42:46.000 But I've seen them get shot.

02:42:48.000 I've seen a lot of things.

02:42:49.000 But I've never seen where these guys are standing in the middle of a big street.

02:42:53.000 Everybody watching them, and they're literally boxing, like punching, stand-up fighting.

02:42:59.000 A police officer, there were two of them, and yet about six of these guys, and they're punching the hell out of them.

02:43:05.000 And in their own country, they would be dead if they did that. 0.88

02:43:09.000 They'd be shot. 0.99

02:43:10.000 They would be shot instantly.

02:43:12.000 And you know, they come from these countries and it's taken them a while to realize that we don't do that in this country.

02:43:17.000 But in their own country, if they stood on a street and had a fight with a police officer, they would be shot.

02:43:23.000 There's no political correctness.

02:43:26.000 And it's such a sad, it's such a sad thing to see.

02:43:29.000 And that's the reason you have crime, by the way, because we don't do anything about it.

02:43:34.000 Yeah.

02:43:34.000 We just cannot have a situation where our police officers are beaten up on camera.

02:43:38.000 by a gang of illegal immigrants and then nothing happens to the guys that beat up the cops? 0.91

02:43:45.000 I mean, and they're let out.

02:43:47.000 This is unacceptable.

02:43:48.000 Well, we're going to change it and we're going to get them out of the country. 0.99

02:43:51.000 You know, when I first got involved, they said you couldn't get them back to these countries.

02:43:55.000 You couldn't take them back.

02:43:56.000 In the case of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, some others, you couldn't get them back.

02:44:02.000 And I said, really?

02:44:03.000 Oh, you can't get it back?

02:44:04.000 Because under Obama, he couldn't get them back.

02:44:07.000 They'd put up, they'd fly them in and they'd put planes on the runways in these countries.

02:44:11.000 So you couldn't land the plane.

02:44:12.000 They'd bring them back.

02:44:13.000 And the general told me, the generals told me, sir, we can't bring them back.

02:44:16.000 The countries won't accept MS-13 gang members.

02:44:19.000 They won't accept them. 0.67

02:44:20.000 And I said, really, how much do we pay these various countries in terms of economic aid, which is also somewhat ridiculous?

02:44:28.000 And the answer was $750 million.

02:44:30.000 I said, good.

02:44:31.000 Tell them they're in default.

02:44:33.000 They're delinquent.

02:44:33.000 We're not going to do it.

02:44:34.000 We're not paying them anymore because they won't accept it.

02:44:37.000 And you know what happened?

02:44:38.000 They all called me, every one of them.

02:44:40.000 They said, We would be honored to take them back, sir.

02:44:42.000 We would be honored.

02:44:44.000 It was so easy.

02:44:45.000 But it's one of those things.

02:44:46.000 And we got them back.

02:44:47.000 We took in so many.

02:44:48.000 You know, MS-13 is probably the worst gangs in the world.

02:44:51.000 They're the most vicious violence.

02:44:53.000 We took them out of here by the thousands and got them out of here. 0.91

02:44:57.000 And their countries took them back.

02:44:59.000 And because I said, you're not getting any more economic aid.

02:45:03.000 And once I said that, they were nice.

02:45:05.000 They wouldn't take them back for Obama.

02:45:06.000 They wouldn't take them back for anybody.

02:45:09.000 And now we have a problem because we have this guy and they, again, they don't take him back anymore with Biden because they don't respect him.

02:45:18.000 Yeah, so it's just it's just got to it's got to be done.

02:45:20.000 We we just can't.

02:45:22.000 I don't know whether they're citizens or not citizens.

02:45:26.000 You can't have that one person citizens either.

02:45:29.000 Not just not just legal.

02:45:30.000 So you can't have.

02:45:35.000 Violent repeat violent offenders that are not that that that don't get incarcerated because they will they will obviously by definition continue to to.

02:45:49.000 You know, hurt people.

02:45:50.000 And I think where part of this comes from is that there's, you know, I do sort of consider myself liberal in some ways.

02:45:56.000 I mean, it's just that you want to have empathy for people.

02:46:00.000 Obviously, you want to have empathy for people.

02:46:01.000 I totally agree with that.

02:46:03.000 You want to have empathy, but you also have to have empathy for the victims of the criminals.

02:46:07.000 And if you just have empathy for the criminals, it's actually shallow empathy.

02:46:12.000 It's not real.

02:46:13.000 You're not thinking.

02:46:14.000 You have one layer deep empathy.

02:46:17.000 You've got to say, if you don't incarcerate this person, who are they going to hurt?

02:46:24.000 They might kill someone. 0.99

02:46:25.000 They might rape someone. 1.00

02:46:27.000 If you don't incarcerate them, you have to have empathy for the victims.

02:46:31.000 And there's a lack of empathy for the victims of the criminals and too much empathy for the criminals.

02:46:36.000 It doesn't make sense.

02:46:38.000 That's why you want to have deep empathy for society as a whole, not shallow empathy for criminals.

02:46:45.000 And we have to give our police officers the dignity and the respect that they deserve.

02:46:50.000 And we have to let them do their job.

02:46:52.000 They can do a great job.

02:46:54.000 But we have to let them do their job.

02:46:56.000 And if we don't do that, we're, you know, it's, it's going to all, it's going to all disappear.

02:47:00.000 There's never been a society like this where you're allowed to do anything you want and nothing happens.

02:47:06.000 And I'm talking about violent crime and it's going to get more violent because these are really, really violent people.

02:47:12.000 And we're going to get them out of our country and we're going to get them back to where, because they were sent here by the presidents and by the various people that run those countries. 1.00

02:47:20.000 And I know every one of those guys and they're smart people. 0.99

02:47:24.000 And they're streetwise people, and they really think that the USA is stupid. 1.00

02:47:29.000 They think we're run by stupid people, and they happen to be right. 1.00

02:47:32.000 But when I was there, we had no problem. 1.00

02:47:34.000 We got them out.

02:47:35.000 We took out thousands of MS-13 gang members.

02:47:37.000 We brought them back.

02:47:39.000 And now, again, it's the same old story.

02:47:41.000 We don't do it.

02:47:42.000 And they actually gave them a big increase in aid.

02:47:46.000 They raised it up to billions of dollars and they get nothing for it.

02:47:50.000 So, you know, I hope everybody's going to vote for Trump and we're going to get this country And I didn't need this.

02:47:57.000 I'm like, I didn't need this.

02:47:58.000 I had a very nice life.

02:48:00.000 I didn't need to go through court systems and go through all the other stuff and run at the same time.

02:48:05.000 I have to go through fake trials with in some cases, corrupt judges, totally corrupt judges.

02:48:05.000 I have to run.

02:48:12.000 I didn't need it.

02:48:13.000 I had a nice life.

02:48:14.000 I have great locations.

02:48:15.000 I have beautiful oceans that I have places.

02:48:17.000 I, you know, I, this was, but I felt it was important.

02:48:21.000 And if I had to, if I had to do it over again, You probably think I'm crazy for doing it, actually, but if I had to do it over again, I would have done it over again, because this is so much more important than me or my life.

02:48:34.000 We're going to save this country. 0.85

02:48:35.000 This country is going down, and these people are bad people that we're running against, and they're liars. 0.96

02:48:41.000 They make statements. 0.95

02:48:44.000 They do things that are so bad.

02:48:46.000 They say they're going to make a strong border.

02:48:49.000 They say they've been great on the border and they've been the worst in history.

02:48:52.000 They say they're going to stop crime.

02:48:54.000 The facts speak for themselves.

02:48:56.000 It's so incredible.

02:48:58.000 It's gotten to the point where people just don't even bother reporting crime in a lot of cities because they know nothing is going to happen.

02:49:04.000 You know, that's what I hear anecdotally from people all the time.

02:49:07.000 Um, so, you know, it's just, uh, you know, my value to people out there, like my, you know, the things I think are important for the future is like, we've got to have safe cities.

02:49:16.000 We've got to have secure borders.

02:49:18.000 We've got to have sensible spending and, and we have, and we've got to have deregulation.

02:49:24.000 And, um, so we can have a prosperous future.

02:49:26.000 And then we want to have some exciting moonshot projects that people can get fired up about.

02:49:33.000 That's what Trump is waiting for.

02:49:39.000 I'm not against... I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry because they're keeping civilization going right now.

02:49:48.000 But I do think we want to move at a reasonable speed towards a sustainable energy economy.

02:49:53.000 Those are my values and I think...

02:49:55.000 You're down to one million now, but...

02:49:57.000 And so, I mean, that's why I'm supporting you for president, you know?

02:50:05.000 Well, I appreciate it.

02:50:06.000 We're going to make, we're going to give incentive to companies to come into our country, not to leave our country.

02:50:12.000 Can't end.

02:50:12.000 We're going to be giving tremendous incentives.

02:50:15.000 We want companies to build here, not in other locations.

02:50:22.000 It's about the American dream.

02:50:23.000 You don't hear about the American dream anymore.

02:50:25.000 You don't hear about the American dream anymore and you're going to hear about it.

02:50:32.000 People, they need that incentive to go out and do it and they're going to love their lives.

02:50:38.000 They're going to love, they're going to look forward to getting up in the morning and going to, you know, going to a job that they love, not a job that they can't stand or not.

02:50:46.000 Any job at all where they have no money, where they literally have no money and then they end up with violence and lots of other problems.

02:50:52.000 No, we're going to do, we're going to do some great things.

02:50:54.000 And I learned a lot in the first, we had a great economy and all of that.

02:50:58.000 We rebuilt the military.

02:50:59.000 We did so much, but I also learned, and I also learned the best people. 0.85

02:51:02.000 I learned the good people, the smart people, the dumb people, the people that can do things.

02:51:07.000 I was in Washington DC only 17 times, according to the fake news media. 0.92

02:51:11.000 I was in 17 times.

02:51:12.000 Trump there's like an all-emergency happening.

02:51:14.000 He'll hang up quick.

02:51:15.000 I was in 17 times, I never stayed over, and you don't know people.

02:51:20.000 You rely on other people to give you names, and then you realize the people you relied on weren't so good.

02:51:25.000 Now, we had great people, but we also had some where I wouldn't have, you know, used them had I known.

02:51:29.000 Now I know everybody.

02:51:31.000 And I think we're going to, uh, we're going to really turn things around fast.

02:51:35.000 We have no choice.

02:51:36.000 Otherwise, we're not going to have a country.

02:51:37.000 And I really appreciate this has been, to me, it's been a lot of fun being with you.

02:51:42.000 You're an amazing guy.

02:51:43.000 You've done an incredible job and a great inspiration to people.

02:51:47.000 A great inspiration.

02:51:49.000 I hope you keep going and just continue to do well and we're going to have a big election coming up and I think November 5th will be the most important day in the history of our country.

02:52:00.000 I think that election will be the most important election and I think it'll end up being maybe the most important day in the history of our country because If we don't win, I just feel so sorry for everybody.

02:52:12.000 Me too.

02:52:13.000 No, I think we're at a fork in the road of destiny.

02:52:16.000 Elon, come on.

02:52:17.000 He's trying to wrap it up.

02:52:19.000 I think we need to take the right path and I think you're the right path.

02:52:25.000 So I think that's what it comes down to.

02:52:26.000 Thank you very much, Elon.

02:52:27.000 It's a great honor and we'll We'll do it again sometime and it's been really fun and I hope you got a lot of viewers.

02:52:34.000 I hear you got a lot.

02:52:38.000 I know you got a lot of them.

02:52:40.000 So I appreciate it.

02:52:41.000 I'll see you soon.

02:52:42.000 I'm hanging up on Elon now.

02:52:43.000 All right.

02:52:44.000 Sounds good.

02:52:44.000 Thank you.

02:52:45.000 Thank you, Elon.

02:52:46.000 Thank you very much.

02:52:47.000 Bye.

02:52:47.000 He said bye like it was a phone call.

02:52:52.000 And we're out.

02:52:52.000 All right.

02:52:53.000 That is the end of it, ladies and gentlemen.

02:52:56.000 That's the end of the space.

02:52:59.000 So, final thoughts on this as we wrap up.

02:53:01.000 We won't have a members show tonight, obviously, because they went long.

02:53:04.000 And the truth is, I have to go to bed because I wake up for a morning show.

02:53:08.000 But, the reason why I gave it a 7, and I think you were saying, Mark, you wouldn't know what a 10 would look like.

02:53:13.000 A 10 would be Donald Trump giving a Gettysburg Address level speech of, Elon, four years ago in this country, we faced a great threat.

02:53:24.000 Giving this speech where Elon would then respond.

02:53:27.000 This was a conversation.

02:53:28.000 It was great.

02:53:29.000 Trump did a pretty good job.

02:53:30.000 He was pretty funny.

02:53:31.000 That's why I say it's a seven.

02:53:32.000 And some people are like, no, it was a 10.

02:53:33.000 It was a 10.

02:53:34.000 I'm like, calm down.

02:53:35.000 A 10, like the, the RNC speech, I'd give like a nine.

02:53:39.000 Really, really great.

02:53:40.000 But 10 is that moment in history where they, they, they say like, wow, a speech was given that day.

02:53:46.000 So you give them a 10, where do you go from there?

02:53:47.000 You know what I mean?

02:53:48.000 So seven is like, he performed great.

02:53:50.000 It was, it was really interesting to hear what he had to say.

02:53:52.000 And you know, I thought it was good.

02:53:53.000 Well I think about it, say he was on Joe Rogan's podcast, right, and he's speaking for an hour, two hours, maybe even three hours, it's really tough to say that whole time he was speaking was a 10.

02:54:03.000 I agree if it was a speech it's probably a little easier to judge that based on a scale of 1 to 10, but when you have this flowing conversation between two powerful men it's pretty tough to say your performance was a 10 or even a 9, but I think 8.5 as far as just what he talked about, what he discussed, and the substance of it.

02:54:20.000 Yeah, yeah, I thought it was pretty good.

02:54:21.000 I don't know, you guys want any final thoughts before we wrap up and I can go to bed?

02:54:25.000 Yeah, I mean, it lasted as long as it needed to.

02:54:28.000 Oh, and longer!

02:54:29.000 Well, no more, no less.

02:54:32.000 I'll stick with my nine because I'm not going to retract it because I already made it, but I was thinking about his energy tonight was really just off the charts.

02:54:39.000 That's true, fair point.

02:54:40.000 It was, you were saying, like more like 2016.

02:54:42.000 He was a little snootier in the fun way.

02:54:45.000 He was He was talking about issues quite a bit.

02:54:48.000 Opening with the assassination was really good.

02:54:49.000 Yeah, I think part of it is, and I said this right before, but it felt like you were listening in on a private phone call between Elon Musk and Trump, and you got to hear them touch on a lot of really interesting points.

02:55:00.000 I'm glad they talked about the attempted assassination.

02:55:02.000 I think one of the big Crimes, I guess, but maybe that's a little dramatic, is that, you know, we had this insane, tragic, you know, nearly catastrophic moment happen.

02:55:14.000 And eventually, and like kind of, you know, on a dime, it was able to get washed away.

02:55:19.000 Democrats don't really talk about it anymore.

02:55:20.000 They'll maybe mention the rally, but you know, what happened was tragic in the way Trump responded to that moment, which Elon highlighted, is a big deal.

02:55:28.000 And so I hope that when journalists are writing about this, in addition to the policies that they now get to talk about, which Kamala Harris gives them no policies to talk about that they'll also talk about kind of what we went through in July as a country because it is a big deal.

02:55:44.000 Like I said, I think I rated it an A8, 7.5.

02:55:47.000 It's not that anything was bad, it's just that, like, nothing super groundbreaking happened.

02:55:52.000 It is cool, though.

02:55:53.000 It is cool to witness this sort of historic million-person rally online.

02:55:57.000 And now, as we wrap up, the one thing I've been dying to clearly articulate.

02:56:02.000 A lisp is when you talk like this, okay?

02:56:05.000 A lisp is when your S's are in your teeth.

02:56:08.000 A slush is when you're talking like this.

02:56:11.000 That's what we were hearing with Trump.

02:56:13.000 Now likely, I think you agree, it was like a lot of people were saying clear de-esser compression.

02:56:18.000 Yeah, I'm almost positive.

02:56:19.000 But the mic is to his left.

02:56:21.000 And so some kind of compression, some others are saying that they compress it because of the space on the server and things like that.

02:56:28.000 And Trump was also looking down.

02:56:30.000 You made a good point.

02:56:31.000 In some parts his S's sounded normal and some they didn't.

02:56:34.000 And then I'm like, yeah, but the media is going to say... Oh, I know exactly what they're going to say.

02:56:38.000 I'm bummed about it, but like, that's the reality of the situation now.

02:56:42.000 Yep.

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02:57:49.000 Pleasure being here with y'all tonight.

02:57:51.000 Yeah, it's been great having you both here.

02:57:52.000 I know it's sort of unusual IRL for us because we're mostly listening in, but you both had great points, and it's fun to be witness to these things with all of you.

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