On today's show: Elon Musk is in hot water with the EU, Donald Trump's campaign HQ in Virginia is burglarized, and the Stolen Valor scandal is heating up in Minnesota. Plus, we have a special interview with Marc Ivano, the Executive Director of Republicans for National Renewal.
00:00:18.000We will have that live here on TimCast IRL with commentary and criticism, though I think we're going to do a lot of listening to understand Donald Trump's positions right now with Elon Musk, as they've both... Well, Donald Trump has praised Elon Musk.
00:00:32.000Elon Musk, of course, has been speaking out quite a bit about what's going on in the UK and free speech.
00:00:37.000Donald Trump has returned to X, formerly with Twitter, and already, as we are waiting in the placeholder for Donald Trump's interview on Spaces, it's crashed.
00:00:48.000I think we're already looking at over 700,000 people have tried to view the Space.
00:00:52.000I don't know if they're going to be able to pull this off, but it's going to be very interesting.
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00:03:19.000So I'm the Executive Director of Republicans for National Renewal, which is a political non-profit organization essentially promoting the America First agenda, which was brought into the political sphere by President Trump, as your audience knows, in 2016.
00:03:31.000And so we want to basically renew the Republican Party from the grassroots level up.
00:03:35.000So at the local, state, and federal level, so that when President Trump is back in office, he has a network and infrastructure within the party to effectuate his agenda, instead of not only having to deal with the radical left, which he has to, but also not being stabbed in the back by members of his own party.
00:04:22.000The Spaces seems to be crashing already, so I'm really excited for this.
00:04:27.000What you're hearing now is Trump's placeholder music, which is fun.
00:04:32.000And you know, the thing is, because this isn't a live video stream at Spaces, normally what we do is we'll just have the video playing with it muted, and then once we see the video start, we can be like, okay, hey, it's starting.
00:04:45.000If I mute this, Trump could start speaking at any minute and we have no idea.
00:04:49.000So I have a feeling they're probably going to be late.
00:06:07.000I'm just kind of a boomer and sort of technophobic.
00:06:09.000So the fact that this is going to be so massive, and I don't know if the infrastructure is there, you know, if it crashes, you're going to see all these left-wing media headlines that are like, everything they do fails.
00:09:29.000The Washington Post says the revival of the former president's account on Axe offers him a bigger audience and also provides a boost for Elon Musk's platform.
00:09:37.000Now the funny thing is, I don't know who said it, it might have been one of the Krasensteins, I don't know.
00:09:41.000They said that, no, no, who was it, who was it?
00:09:45.000Saying that incoming truth social lawsuit against Trump I don't know any Trump supporter who owns DJT stock is going to sue because he went on X. Maybe an institutional investor, but I doubt it.
00:09:59.000He's the owner, and by going on X, he's basically abandoning a company which people invested in.
00:10:55.000The thing is, by using a Spaces, and you're an actual lawyer, so tell me if I'm wrong here, but using Spaces, especially when you're invited on by Elon Musk, feels different than just going back to posting regularly on X. I mean, as far as I know, Truth Social doesn't offer this type of, you know... Yeah, there's a difference between using your account on X versus like you've been invited for an X Space.
00:15:05.000This ridiculous, long-winded, it's like, the only thing I can think is, what's that meme where it's like, I'm sorry this happened to you, or that's great, whichever, you know what I'm talking about?
00:15:21.000But he's basically saying that, look at this long-winded garbage.
00:15:24.000We have a law that says you can't misinform people, that not only means ensuring on one end the freedom of expression, blah blah blah, As you know, formal proceedings are already ongoing against acts under the DSA, notably in areas linked to the dissemination of illegal content, and the effectiveness of the measures taken to combat disinformation.
00:15:39.000As the relevant content is accessible to EU users, and being amplified also in our jurisdictions, we cannot exclude potential spillovers into the EU, therefore we are monitoring for potential risks to the EU, blah blah.
00:16:23.000I'll What role does the White House or the President have in sort of stopping that, or stopping the spread of that, or sort of intervening in that?
00:16:34.000Some of that was about campaign misinformation, but it's a wider thing, right?
00:16:38.000Yeah, no, and you've heard us talk about this many times from here, about the responsibilities that social media platforms have when it comes to misinformation, disinformation.
00:16:48.000I don't have anything to read out from here about specific ways that we're working on it, but we believe that, that they have the responsibility.
00:16:57.000These are private companies, so we're also mindful of that too, but... Yeah, blah blah, we get it, we get it.
00:18:35.000Yeah, as a lawyer, to hear that journalist ask, what's the roles of the White House in this disinformation, quote-unquote, is really appalling because the government should have no say in what's true or not as far as speech is concerned.
00:18:51.000We did see the Biden administration having a say in that they were feeding Twitter executives what they should or shouldn't be deleting or censoring, but really that the government should have no role whatsoever in curtailing speech, whether they agree with it or not.
00:19:08.000That's what they're trying to do here, though, is if it's speech that they disagree with, they don't like, well then the government should step in and stop it.
00:19:13.000But if it's speech we like, even if others don't like it, it's okay because we like it.
00:19:33.000Anyone who is protesting the presence of illegal immigrants within the UK, you know, they're racist and anybody who's against it is anti-racist.
00:19:43.000So wait, actually, there's a lot more.
00:19:44.000complexity and nuance that situation and so much of what this is saying is like
00:19:49.000we have decided on a narrative and anyone who questions our narrative is a
00:19:53.000threat to us and therefore we will do anything we can to restrict your speech.
00:19:56.000Well yeah, in the EU it's basically if you're if you're against the EU and what
00:20:12.000But if there's a quote-unquote far-right protest who's peaceful and they're just saying, hey, we don't really like what's going on, you can crush them and tell the police to stay out of it because they're anti-democracy.
00:20:22.000And so to see the EU send this letter, a bunch of award salad, essentially, It's a big joke.
00:20:29.000And it's to control American politics, right?
00:20:31.000Elon Musk is talking to Donald Trump, who is running for re-election in America.
00:20:36.000No one is asking Europe to be a part of this.
00:20:37.000European listeners are not required to be a part of this space.
00:20:40.000To then come in and say, like, well, we're going to pay attention and restrict this because we've decided you might upset people that we are trying to brainwash.
00:21:46.000So it looks like what's happening is they're trying to add server space.
00:21:50.000I don't know if this is correct, but people are noticing that it's hitting a wall like 120 and then starting to go down and then jumping up to 200 and so this may be that they're putting a hold on it for the time being as they try to expand server space to be able to get more and more people in.
00:22:06.000I think they just need to go because we're 17 minutes in and this is getting a bit brutal.
00:22:42.000And if it's already crashing right now, once you start... And I don't know anything about the technology behind this, but does that mean that at any point during the conversation we could get these kind of drops and delays?
00:22:53.000Because that, to me, really fragmented the conversation.
00:26:04.000I have an image here to help you explain what a DDoS is.
00:26:07.000And it's basically, the way you want to visualize it is this, this is the door to Twitter, and all of these oversized novelty germs are trying to get in at the same time, and they can't.
00:26:18.000That is effectively what a distributed denial-of-service attack is.
00:26:22.000Shout out to Richie Jackson, if he's watching, as a Simpsons reference.
00:26:25.000So that's basically what's going on right now, and that's why we're stuck.
00:26:30.000I'm assuming, I think you are right, Mark, I bet in nine minutes they just say, let's roll the interview with what we have.
00:26:37.000And then they're going to say, not that many people actually listen to Donald Trump and the live interview.
00:26:43.000And this is a way to diminish the reach and the impact of what may be one of the biggest interview moments ever.
00:26:51.000Definitely one of the most highly anticipated.
00:26:53.000I think people really want to see direct conversations between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
00:26:57.000And, you know, tomorrow you will see reports that this is a sign that Elon Musk is a, you know, bad, has bad leadership and Twitter, whatever, is falling apart under him.
00:27:07.000And really, I don't think that's true.
00:27:09.000This is going, you know, I hate to say, but any kind of technological issues or glitches in this interview are actually going to be both a comment on Trump's campaign, but also a referendum on Elon Musk for the mainstream media.
00:27:21.000But it also shows that the globalists are terrified to hear this interview in the first place.
00:27:25.000If it was a CNN interview, NBC, MSLSD, they wouldn't do anything.
00:27:31.000In fact, they would be cheering it on.
00:27:32.000They'd say, yeah, we want to hear this.
00:27:33.000We want to hear Trump sticking to him.
00:27:36.000But this, Elon Musk, who's endorsed President Trump after the assassination attempt, interviewing President Trump, so two men of influence and power who support Christianity and the Western culture, being interviewed, you can't have that.
00:28:07.000But considering that the EU made this threat, you have to believe that there's powerful interests in various countries who are like, shut it down.
00:28:15.000Elon's not going to be able to compete with that.
00:28:17.000What I think they're trying to do With this event and Donald Trump, of course Team Trump has called for a big fundraiser.
00:28:24.000I think they want to rival what they saw with white dudes for Kamala.
00:28:46.000Because I think they were like 9 or something.
00:28:49.000But here's the thing, they kept saying that this was like they had 180,000 people join and I'm like, right, they're talking about concurrent viewership.
00:29:00.000Donald Trump's already well larger than that, and with over 20 million views, substantially larger than that.
00:29:08.000So let's see if they can get to work, but in the meantime, I am willing to bet there are powerful interests, aligned with Democrats and other foreign actors, that are doing this intentionally to stop Donald Trump.
00:29:18.000When you look at, let's just call it certain nonprofit organizations back in 2016 that were really interested and maybe even connected to the person running for president, the Democrat, a lot of money stopped getting donated to those nonprofits once Donald Trump won.
00:29:35.000So there's probably a lot of financial interests that are tied up in this.
00:30:38.000When you read the history books and you learned of the presidential debates in the early 1900s and the war, it felt no different to them than it feels to us right now.
00:30:50.000We don't look at the war in Ukraine and with Iran and Israel as profound or impactful as, say, World War II and things like that, but it is all the same.
00:31:01.000I mean, perhaps you might argue, no, World War II was way bigger.
00:31:05.000Where they were at the time, when they were doing radio broadcasts and writing stories for Life Magazine perhaps, which we have all the copies of.
00:31:14.000When they didn't know about D-Day, when they didn't know the U.S.
00:31:16.000would get involved in World War II, when they didn't know that Hitler was going to expand or that there was going to be the Blitz and things like this.
00:31:22.000They were sitting there having these conversations.
00:31:25.000What you are listening to right now is exactly that moment that people will write about.
00:31:28.000And here we are, three months out from the election, Elon Musk, the wealthiest guy on the planet, with one of the biggest social media platforms, talking to the frontrunner, and the website is currently under a cyber attack to shut down the conversation.
00:31:42.000Welcome to history, ladies and gentlemen.
00:31:51.000There's going to be some 10 year old kids 200 years from now.
00:31:54.000And the teacher is going to be like, now here's a trivia question for bonus points.
00:31:59.000Who can name the billionaire tech CEO who hosted the failed interview with frontrunner Donald Trump in the 2024 election just before the Second Civil War started?
00:32:11.000I think that there's going to be journalists who hear this music and are automatically sent back to this moment in time as they like rip their laptops and are like, please, I'm just trying to get a story out.
00:32:29.000I mean, 10 years from now, and I do think, without being dramatic, this election will really say what course some of history is going to go in.
00:32:39.000But I think some of the way that at least some progressive historians will look back on this moment is like, Yes, good job to those DDoS attackers who really prevented the worst moment in history.
00:32:48.000They'll think that they have done good because there is such a fear around having these two people talk.
00:32:54.000Again, to me, this is irrational and it's the production of fear mongering that's lasted over the last, you know, eight years.
00:32:59.000But, you know, there are people who feel like there is justification in trying to prevent Trump from reaching a mass audience.
00:33:08.000Yeah, you know, Elon says they tested it to 8 million concurrence, and I believe him.
00:33:14.000Because after what happened with Ron DeSantis and Elon is running a business, he's not going to let this happen again, but some people are asking if he can just do a live stream and then broadcast that to X with what other people are doing.
00:34:23.000Well, it's interesting, too, because people are probably refreshing and refreshing, trying to find this, hoping that in one second it'll be, you know, one refresh away from being live.
00:34:33.000Yeah, they don't want to be the one to miss it, or if Elon Musk, you know, he said we're going to maybe do it to a limited number of live listeners, they're hoping that they get to be in.
00:34:43.000Well, if this doesn't prove enough- Whoa, my app is freaking out.
00:34:48.000I don't know what would convince conservatives of that.
00:34:50.000I mean, assassination attempt, and now you can't even have an interview with Elon Musk.
00:34:55.000The biggest free speech war in the tech industry.
00:34:57.000We are obviously in a political war, and conservatives start acting like it instead of saying things like, no, the left means well, they just disagree with us.
00:35:03.000No, they actually hate you, and they want to destroy you and censor you.
00:35:05.000It's also interesting that you get this immediate contrast between the technology that conservatives and sort of this new emerging right-wing party in America is choosing to use versus the Democrats and Kamala Harris.
00:35:18.000Elon Musk has announced they'll be proceeding at 8.30 Eastern, which is any moment.
00:35:24.000And a lot of people are tweeting that we're able to actually just to get in.
00:35:56.000And so it is interesting that she's able to successfully use this platform that actually is somewhat controversial, although sewn into the fabric of a lot of people's daily online and business lives, whereas Trump is trying to use something that is based in America.
00:36:11.000And, you know, he's being... Holy crap, ladies and gentlemen, there's 454,000 people in this space right now.
00:36:19.000on x 450 559,000 people now live in the x space.
00:40:19.000We might get press releases that come out on X. But the way Trump was on X when it was Twitter, you know, and sort of the casual access, I just don't see him ever coming back to it the same way.
00:42:27.000Because in that way, you get the sense that you really are getting an insight into a private conversation between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, which I think that would be really impactful.
00:42:38.000So what's interesting too is… Sure, we can say that right now, checking again, 903,000 listeners concurrent in this space.
00:42:47.000But don't forget, we've got 78K right now watching live on YouTube, waiting for this to kick on, who are going to be listening as well.
00:42:53.000So that number is probably well over a million with all the other live streams combined.
00:42:57.000This is over a million so far to hear Donald Trump speak.
00:43:00.000And we are probably only two minutes away from this number cracking one million.
00:43:15.000I gotta tell you, for anybody trying to listen to this on iTunes and Spotify later, they're gonna be like, fast forward, fast forward, fast forward, what happened next, what happened next?
00:43:22.000But that's the thing about livestreams, man.
00:43:24.000We are currently in the historical moment.
00:44:06.000That's over 1 million with just this show and Elon Musk.
00:44:09.000Congratulations to everybody listening for being a part of history.
00:44:13.000Well, you said made me think of Alaud when he was here because he had been, he's our on the ground reporter for 942 News, and he had been on the ground at the Trump rally.
00:44:22.000And he said, you know, I've covered a million of them and it seemed totally standard.
00:44:25.000And so I saw that Joe Biden was about to speak in Pittsburgh.
00:44:28.000So I left to go there because I thought I would see protesters, which means he just narrowly missed the assassination attempt.
00:47:02.000We unfortunately had a massive distributed denial of service attack against our servers and saturated all of our data lines.
00:47:15.000Basically, hundreds of gigabits of data were saturated.
00:47:19.000We think we've overcome most of that, and so it's now time to proceed.
00:47:25.000But as this massive attack illustrates, there's a lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say.
00:47:38.000But I'm honored to have this conversation.
00:47:40.000I want to emphasize it's a conversation.
00:47:44.000And it's really intended to just get a feel for what Donald Trump is just like in a conversation.
00:47:50.000It's hard to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't hear them talk in a normal way.
00:47:57.000And when, you know, when there's an adversarial interview, like, no one's themselves in an adversarial interview.
00:48:04.000And this is really aimed at kind of open-minded, independent voters who are just trying to make up their mind.
00:48:16.000And, uh, so you can understand, like, what, what is, uh, you know, what is it just like to have a conversation?
00:48:23.000So, um, uh, Donald, great, great to, uh, to speak.
00:48:29.000Um, we had a great conversation yesterday, as you mentioned yesterday, if we could just record that conversation and post it, it would have been excellent.
00:48:37.000I hope we can have something like that today.
00:49:10.000Um, well, maybe, uh, we could start off with, um, I mean, the assassination attempt, uh, which, uh, was an incredible thing.
00:49:21.000And I have to say that, uh, you know, your actions after that assassination attempt were inspiring.
00:49:28.000Um, you know, you, instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down, um, you were pumping your fist in the air and saying, fight, fight, fight.
00:49:36.000And I think that's, I mean, you know, the President of the United States represents America.
00:49:44.000And I think that is, that is America, that is strength under fire.
00:49:49.000And so that's, you know, a big, you know, part of the reason why I was excited to endorse you as the President of the United States for having a term here.
00:51:00.000And because it, you know, it hit very hard, but hit the ear.
00:51:04.000And I also heard people shout bullets, bullets, you know, get down, get down because I, you know, I moved down pretty nicely, pretty quickly.
00:51:12.000And we had bullets flying right over my head after I went down.
00:51:39.000And a lot of people have said that to me.
00:51:41.000A lot of great people have said that to me actually, but it was, uh, it was amazing that I happened to be turned just at that perfect angle.
00:51:49.000And all because I put down a chart on immigration that showed that the numbers were so great.
00:52:59.000And he wrote out a check for a million dollars, gave it to the wife.
00:53:02.000And, you know, she said, this is really nice, but I'd rather have my husband back, which is a nice thing for somebody to say, to be honest.
00:53:20.000They thought they were not gonna make it, and they did.
00:53:22.000The doctors in the Butler area, I tell you, they were incredible.
00:53:27.000They saved the two, and they were really hit tough, both of them equally.
00:53:33.000And we thought, my first question was, because I heard bullets flying over me, and I said, how many people were killed?
00:53:39.000Because we had a massive crowd there, a tremendous, Thousands and thousands of people and there was no land.
00:53:46.000I mean, it was just, it was all people.
00:53:47.000So I said, how many people have been killed?
00:53:50.000Because I knew there were other shots being fired.
00:53:53.000And they said, uh, we don't know yet, but some people have been badly hurt.
00:53:58.000And, uh, I have to give the, a secret service sniper, they call them or sharpshooter, but sniper, because he didn't know there was a problem.
00:54:09.000He's been, he's an extraordinary shot, obviously.
00:54:13.000And he didn't know there was a problem.
00:54:14.000And he was able to pick and roll out within five seconds.
00:54:17.000And he used one bullet from very far away, I guess, probably about 400 yards.
00:54:22.000The shooter was 130, but he was on the opposite side of the field and the podium.
00:54:29.000And he saw the smoke and the flame from the gun, immediately recognized it, and immediately took a shot.
00:54:38.000And it was one perfect shot from very far away.
00:54:41.000And if he, if he didn't do that, Elon, he would have, I mean, if he would have a lot of people, a lot more people have been, could have been badly hurt and killed.
00:54:52.000So I have to take my hat off to him because that's also a surreal, you know, he'd been with them for 23 years and he's never had anything like this.
00:55:02.000And all of a sudden he has to act and it's a very tough thing to act and to be shooting somebody.
00:55:07.000But he saw the, uh, He saw the gun, saw the smoke, saw the flame from the gun very far away.
00:55:15.000He's got very good vision, which I assume you have to have in that particular work.
00:55:20.000But he, uh, he took aim very quickly and it was, they say it was approximately five seconds from long range, one bullet.
00:55:28.000If that didn't happen because the shooter had a lot of bullets, he had a lot of A lot of cartridges up there with him, so... I mean, that's clearly...
00:55:41.000He was he was very competent in taking that shot to stop the the assassin the attempted assassination But but I mean that does seem to be I mean some pretty significant failings Elsewhere in the system like there's just no way that like how on earth does a shooter get on a roof 130 yards away That seems crazy I think most people like what people are wondering how that on earth could such a thing happen Well, you know, I view it as two ways.
00:56:09.000There should have been nobody on the roof.
00:56:11.000There were people because there were so many tens of thousands of people there.
00:56:15.000There were people that were seeing him.
00:56:18.000And there was one woman with a red shirt and Trump all over it.
00:56:24.000And she's screaming, and that guy's got a gun.
00:56:30.000It's like, I'm just, I'm just, I guess, I mean, fine for my part, and I think probably Many members of the public are wondering how the heck are, you know, basically people wondering by pointing out there's a guy on the roof with a gun.
00:56:54.000Well, they're going to learn from this.
00:56:56.000The communication between the local police who sort of Had an idea, then ultimately, a man lifted himself up to the roof, could barely do it because, you know, he was pulling himself up.
00:57:12.000The man with the gun pointed the gun at him.
00:57:13.000He thought he was probably going to get shot.
00:57:17.000But, you know, he was like pulling himself up.
00:57:20.000And because of that, he couldn't get to his gun.
00:57:23.000And he fell down, actually very badly hurt his leg, his ankle.
00:57:29.000I hear very badly, but he fell down and he did, you know, from what I understand, he did say there's a guy up there with a gun.
00:57:37.000And the, the shooting started very quickly after that.
00:57:40.000I think it, I think it forced the shooter to go maybe quicker.
00:57:44.000You know, you're supposed to be a very good shot.
00:57:47.000My sons, Don and Eric, they, they can't believe what happened, but they said from 130 yards, A bad shot would hit that target almost every time.
00:57:58.000They said it's like in golf, sinking a two-foot putt.
00:58:48.000And a lot of people get killed with those stampedes.
00:58:50.000We had more people than you'd have at You know, some of these matches or these games and, uh, nobody left, you know, you had a small group behind us in the grandstand and that was full and you look at it as it was taking place.
00:59:49.000And there were some people behind me, they stood up and they're looking like, you know, I mean, I'll tell you, you want to have, you want to have them in a foxhole with you.
00:59:55.000I want to meet some of those people because it's so different from what you heard.
00:59:59.000But so, so I was down, but the secret service guys, there were bullets flying right over my head.
01:02:12.000If, if somebody knew, cause people were hearing that, you know, there was just a bad feeling that there was somebody was around, you know, that story now it's been.
01:02:20.000And if somebody could have said, cause they've oftentimes said, you know, like it'd be a lightning storm or something.
01:03:14.000I didn't I don't think I didn't think of it I just want to get up and I want to stand up.
01:03:19.000I want to let people know, you know, I felt I was good when when they were Uh, on top of me covering me actually very much covering me and very bravely.
01:06:37.000Like the three that in the case of Corey killed and the other two, the families, I got to know them a little bit.
01:06:44.000Families are great, but we're going back to Butler and I think I'll probably start by saying as I was saying So horribly interrupted, yeah, but yeah, so really interrupted by it.
01:06:59.000Yeah Some people have a lot on the chart was just a chart that in my last week we had the best of Illegal immigration numbers, meaning stopping.
01:08:33.000I mean, would it be accurate to say that you're supportive of legal immigration, but we obviously need to shut down illegal immigration, and especially unvetted illegal immigration?
01:08:46.000And that's not the same as saying that everyone who is an illegal immigrant is bad.
01:08:51.000In fact, I think most people who are illegal immigrants are actually good, but you can't tell the difference unless there's a solid vetting of who comes across the border.
01:10:02.000Now they're also saying they did a good job in the border.
01:10:04.000We had the worst numbers in the history of the world, not of our country.
01:10:07.000There's never been a country in history that has had a catastrophe like this.
01:10:12.000We've had, I believe, and I think you believe this too, you know, you hear 12 million, 13...
01:10:17.000I believe it's over 20 million people came into our country, many coming from jails, from prisons, from mental institutions, or a bigger version of that is insane asylums, and many are terrorists.
01:10:31.000And I'll tell you what, they're coming not just from South America, they're coming from Africa, they're coming from all over the world, they're coming from Asia, they're coming from the Middle East, they're coming from countries that are stupidly and horribly Bombing Israel, October 7th.
01:10:49.000They're coming from all over the world.
01:10:52.000It's so sad, October 7th, because it should have never happened.
01:11:48.000And so it's just essential to have a real border or we can't function as a country and our services, you know, our central services are being overwhelmed in a lot of cities.
01:12:00.000And, but I, as we were talking about earlier, I think having a legal immigration process that is smooth and efficient and done well.
01:12:11.000And I, you know, speaking as someone who is a legal immigrant and I mean, one way to think of it is, who do you want on your team?
01:14:46.000This is crime that's going to be- And I saw it today in New York, where somebody was knifed Where they raped the girlfriend of a man that stood there watching in New York in one of the shelters and started pulling out the knives and bad things happened today.
01:19:26.000This is a, this is a super important point.
01:19:29.000Like people it's like, well, basically when I went down there, I was like, well, where are people from?
01:19:33.000It's like, it's like almost no one was from Mexico.
01:19:36.000It's just, it's just, it's just the border.
01:19:39.000It's just the border with Mexico, but the people coming in it's, it's, it's earth, the rest of earth and America is, is only, You know, about four, four or five percent of the population of Earth.
01:19:50.000It would only take a few percent of the rest of Earth to overwhelm everything.
01:20:13.000Elon, what's happened is unbelievable.
01:20:16.000You have from Africa, from the Congo, they're coming from the Congo and 22 people came in from the Congo recently and they're murderers and they're dropped.
01:20:55.000And there are a lot of really bad ones.
01:20:59.000It's just, it's just an everywhere on earth thing.
01:21:02.000And it's just, it's just not possible for the United States to absorb, you know, everyone from earth or, you know, even a few percent of the rest of earth.
01:23:26.000I think you make an excellent point here, which is that when other countries are thinking about invading or doing bad things, When they're thinking about that, they're thinking about,
01:23:36.000okay, what's the American president going to do?
01:23:39.000And do they fear the American president?
01:23:42.000Or is there someone they do not respect and do not fear?
01:23:46.000And I think they do, they would rightfully be.
01:23:51.000I mean, you know, look at the footage of the assassination.
01:23:55.000They're like, okay, you know, President Trump is like, don't mess with me.
01:24:01.000I mean, that's like, whereas I think people are not going to be and they obviously have not been at all intimidated by Biden.
01:24:10.000And they certainly will not be intimidated by Kamala.
01:24:12.000And you have to really think about in the context of global security.
01:24:16.000Um, that's, that's, that if the, if the American president is someone, someone that, like, you know, evil dictators are scared of, that makes a huge difference to the security of the world.
01:24:28.000So I had a good relationship with Putin despite the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax that lasted for over two years, just a hoax created by Hillary Clinton and, uh, Adam Shifty Schiff, some just bad people, you know, just sick people, frankly.
01:24:41.000I mean, Schiff, Schiff is a sick person.
01:24:43.000He's going to end up probably being a senator.
01:26:25.000But I mean, I think it's just worth emphasizing to listeners that the immense importance of whether the United States president is intimidating or not intimidating.
01:28:18.000In fact, there were articles when I was leaving, which is hard to believe actually, Especially when you look at what's happened to our country.
01:28:29.000Four years ago, we were so respected to a point where when I said, don't buy oil, they didn't buy oil, but they had no money and Israel would have never been attacked.
01:30:46.000But we were not in danger with him because of me.
01:30:49.000You know, I always say that we have enemies on the outside and we have enemies on the inside.
01:30:55.000We have some really bad people in our government.
01:30:58.000And people that are, and controlling of the people.
01:31:02.000I mean, I mentioned names, but I don't, I really don't want to give them the credit, but we have some really bad, and I say they're more dangerous than Russia and China.
01:31:10.000If you have a smart president, a president that gets it, we are not in danger from those countries because they need us and they need our help.
01:31:20.000I mean, we forced Obama, if you think about it, Obama and Biden, And Bush, to a certain extent, in all fairness, forced Russia and China together.
01:31:31.000And if you're a history student, the first thing you learn is you cannot let Russia and China align.
01:31:37.000But then they also got, if you take a look, Iran, and they have North Korea.
01:31:42.000That's, you know, they call it the axis of evil.
01:31:45.000In the old days, you had the axis of evil.
01:31:47.000Here we have a modern day axis of evil.
01:31:49.000These are Powerful countries, very heavy nuclear, which is the biggest threat.
01:31:55.000You know, the biggest threat is not global warming, where the ocean's gonna rise one eighth of an inch over the next 400 years.
01:32:02.000And you'll have more oceanfront property, right?
01:32:07.000The biggest threat is nuclear warming.
01:32:09.000Because we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power, and we have to not allow Anything to happen with stupid people like Biden, you know Biden Did something with Russia There was no chance of him ever going in and when I left and then then after I left they started forming Big armies on there on the border with Ukraine, right?
01:32:33.000And I looked at that and I thought he was doing that because Putin's a good negotiator I thought he was doing that to negotiate but then Biden started saying such stupid things for instance.
01:32:43.000He said that I It can be a NATO country.
01:32:47.000Now, Russia for as long as there's been NATO has said, we're never going to agree to that.
01:32:54.000And we go right up front and say that.
01:32:57.000And we did things and said things through this president with a low IQ, very low IQ.
01:33:02.000He had a low IQ 30 years ago, by the way, but now he might not even have a IQ at all.
01:33:06.000There is no, there's nothing on the board that goes as low.
01:35:39.000But, you know, with all of that being said, to me, that's so important, the most important.
01:35:44.000But with all of that being said, The election's coming up and the people want to hear about the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries because they don't have enough money to buy groceries.
01:37:09.000The inflation, it doesn't matter what you make, the inflation is eating you alive.
01:37:13.000If you're a worker or if you're a just a middle income person, you can't afford, you know, four years ago, five years ago, people were saving a lot of money.
01:37:25.000Today, they're using all their money and borrowing money just to live.
01:37:29.000It's a horrible thing that's happening.
01:39:06.000The price of gasoline... Now, your cars don't require too much gasoline, so you have a good... And you do make a great product, I have to say.
01:40:02.000And I know you're a big fan of the AI.
01:40:05.000And I have to say that AI, and this is shocking to me, but AI requires twice the energy that the country already produces for everything.
01:40:15.000So you're going to have to build, we're going to have to build a lot of energy if our country will be competitive with China, which is our primary competitor for this on the AI.
01:40:26.000You're going to need a lot of electricity.
01:40:27.000You're going to need tremendous electricity, like almost double what we produce now for the whole country, if you can believe it.
01:40:37.000Well, just going back to this basic thing, which is that people try to make it sound complicated, but it's not, but inflation is caused by government overspending.
01:40:47.000Would you agree that we need to take a look at government spending and have perhaps a government efficiency commission that Just look, tries to make the spending sensible.
01:40:59.000And so the country lives within his means, just like just like a person.
01:44:28.000They don't include a lot of the items that should be included.
01:44:31.000Yeah, well it's just from government overspending and just not spending taxpayer money effectively.
01:44:42.000So many departments, you can't even name them all.
01:44:46.000And what Malay is doing is he's cutting government spending, he's simplifying things, he's putting in regulations that make sense.
01:44:58.000Argentina, overnight, is experiencing a giant improvement in prosperity.
01:45:05.000But it's also a lesson for the United States, which is that Argentina used to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world in the 30s, 40s, and because of bad government policy, it ruined the country.
01:45:22.000And if you take Venezuela, for example, Venezuela should be incredibly prosperous.
01:45:27.000They have phenomenal reserves of everything, oil, everything.
01:45:33.000And it should be prosperous, but if the government's wrong, it impoverishes the people.
01:45:38.000And so I think we should not be complacent in the United States in thinking that and taking our prosperity for granted.
01:46:23.000And what I'm going to do, one of the first acts, and this is where I need an Elon Musk.
01:46:28.000I need somebody that has a lot of Strength and courage and smarts.
01:46:31.000I want to close up Department of Education, move education back to the states where states like Iowa, where states like Idaho, you know, not every state will do great because states that basically aren't doing good now you look at Yeah.
01:46:47.000Gavin Newsome, the governor of California, he's terrible.
01:47:28.000And maybe they have certain advantages in terms of location, in terms of, you know, the land or the the sun, the sun and the water and the whole thing.
01:47:35.000You know, there are a lot of advantages that some people.
01:47:37.000But if you moved education back to the 50, you'll have some that won't do well, but you'll have but they'll actually be forced to do better because it'll be a pretty bad situation.
01:47:48.000But if you think about it, yeah, you'll have some of these states.
01:48:07.000I think you're making a good point in that if the states have to, if each individual, if each state has to compete against other states, then people will naturally move to states where it's better.
01:48:20.000Well, like California, you know, as we said, it's a badly run state.
01:48:25.000I could go through, I got so many friends that are in those states, even if they're Democrats, I hate to mention certain states.
01:48:35.000But, but you know, some of these places are just badly run, but you know, it's almost going to force them to run better and they won't do a good initially, but, but you're not going to do worse than you're doing right now.
01:48:47.000And I would say that the cost, you would cut your cost by 50 or 60%.
01:48:52.000And you'd have a little monitor, you know, you want to make sure they're teaching English as an example, you know, give us a little English, right?
01:49:32.000But, you know, I mean, I just wonder, how do these states survive when big businesses, a big oil company just left California, as you know, and they moved to Texas.
01:49:42.000How do these big states survive when they lose so many businesses And their taxes are already really high.
01:49:49.000You know, their taxes are among the highest taxes.
01:49:52.000You almost wonder, how do they continue on?
01:49:55.000And in many cases, the governors don't do a good job and they're crime-ridden places.
01:50:00.000You wonder, how do they continue to just go on?
01:50:07.000I mean, I think the thing that's the only thing that's going to force some of these states to change is if they risk bankruptcy and they're not getting bailed out by the federal government.
01:50:17.000That's the only thing that's going to get them changed.
01:50:22.000I mean, they've mentioned it a couple of times, but the focus really is on like, what are the problems?
01:50:26.000They went into a form of chapter and it was very nasty for a period of time, but now it's probably the most popular place in all of California.
01:50:35.000So, you know, at some point, something like that may have to happen.
01:50:39.000But the problem is you can't penalize people that loan money to the state when you have incompetent people like a Pritzker.
01:50:47.000Look, the family didn't want him in the family business.
01:50:50.000And then he ends up being governor of Illinois.
01:51:00.000And some are very good and some are just horrible.
01:51:04.000Well, I think the larger point here, as you're saying, a lot of people are concerned about the economy, a lot of people are concerned about inflation, and inflation is effectively a tax on people that save money and for people that are working day-to-day.
01:51:22.000And if we can solve the government spending problem, we'll solve the inflation problem, which means people will have a better standard of living.
01:51:29.000Well, the people that got hurt worst are the people that did it the way they were taught to do it all through, you know, their younger life and their young life and their whole life.
01:51:40.000The people that saved money and then they got no interest on their money and inflation destroyed them.
01:51:47.000And frankly, they were almost better off if they didn't do anything like that.
01:51:50.000I mean, those people have been absolutely decimated and we're going to bring those people back and help those people.
01:51:57.000You know, when I look at bacon costing five, four or five times more than it did a few years ago, when, when you look at some of the food products and groceries, those people go, they can't believe it.
01:52:07.000They used to be able to buy a whole cart and today, You know, a lot of people just don't have the money.
01:52:13.000They go in and they can't buy anything.
01:52:21.000I think it really just comes down to two things, which is that if you solve government overspending, you solve inflation, which improves living standards of the average person.
01:52:33.000And then if you deregulate, like have sensible regulations, because a lot of the regulations are nonsensical and cause the cost to be extreme for no reason, But unless you've got effective deregulation, like Reagan
01:52:48.000did a great job on deregulation in the 80s, but it's been 40 years since we had anyone
01:53:58.000But we were, if had that not happened, a gift from China, from Wuhan, came in from Wuhan, the Wuhan labs and I always said it and it turned out to be right.
01:54:10.000But had that not had that not happened we were set to start reducing Debt, we're gonna reduce taxes further I gave the largest tax cuts and we were gonna reduce taxes still further for middle-income people not only businesses But we did it for businesses because they're the ones that that's why we had the great job numbers But we were set to really start Reducing debt and you know, we were sitting on the biggest pile of liquid gold anywhere in the world bigger than Saudi Arabia bigger than Russia and we were going to drill and we were going to make so much money.
01:54:44.000We were going to supply Europe with oil.
01:54:46.000I had stopped the Russian pipeline and we were going to supply them with oil and gas.
01:54:50.000We were gonna make a fortune and then the COVID came in and we really had to divert.
01:54:58.000Then what happened is when they came in, you know, we kept a lot of businesses alive.
01:55:02.000If I didn't do what we did, we would have had a 1929 type depression.
01:55:06.000But the problem is when Biden came in, he got trillions of dollars
01:55:11.000and just started spending it stupidly.
01:55:34.000But people don't realize more people died during his administration than ours.
01:55:38.000But it diverted us from doing what I wanted to do.
01:55:42.000But we had the greatest for, you know, almost three years.
01:55:45.000We had the great, and you know that probably better than anybody.
01:55:48.000So many of your friends said to me, the best years we've ever had in business were during the Trump years.
01:55:55.000And also said that African-American, Hispanic-American were so incredible.
01:56:03.000They were having the best Asian-American women, men, young people without a diploma, young people that graduated from the best colleges, from MIT, from the Wharton School, from all of the great colleges, Harvard.
01:56:17.000They were doing better and people without a diploma were doing better.
01:56:37.000I mean, I should probably say something about, like, you know, maybe my views on, you know, climate change and oil and gas, because I think I'm probably different from what most people would assume.
01:56:49.000Because my views are actually pretty, I think, moderate in this regard, which is that I don't think we should rely on the oil and gas industry.
01:56:57.000and the people that have worked very hard in those industries to provide the necessary energy
01:57:02.000to support the economy. And if we were to stop using oil and gas right now, we would all be
01:57:07.000starving and the economy would collapse. So, I don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil
01:57:14.000and gas industry. And the world has a certain demand for oil and gas, and it's probably better
01:57:22.000if the United States provides that than some other countries. And it would help with prosperity in
01:57:29.000And at the same time, obviously, my view is, like, we do over time want to move to a sustainable energy economy, because eventually you do run out of, I mean, you run out of oil and gas.
01:57:46.000I think the risk is not as high as a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming.
01:57:52.000But I think if you just keep increasing the parts per million in the atmosphere long enough, eventually it actually simply gets uncomfortable to breathe.
01:58:40.000Where, I mean, you have farmers that are not allowed to farm anymore and have to get rid of their cattle and the whole, uh, whole world.
01:58:46.000But it's largely taken its lead from us.
01:58:51.000I do say though, I've heard in terms of the fossil fuel, because even to, uh, Create your electric car and create the electricity needed for the electric car.
01:59:03.000You know, fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants.
01:59:07.000And, you know, so you sort of can't get away from it at this moment.
02:00:19.000Well, I mean, my estimate would be, you know, a little more.
02:00:23.000Aggressive than that, but it's not the sort of like we're all gonna die in five years stuff that that's obviously BS But I mean my view is like if you just look at sort of the positive million That increments every year, you know, you get sort of two or three parts per million every year of co2 I mean my I think Some of that it's problematic if it accelerates if you start going from two or three to say five and then there may be some situations where you get Just a step change increase in the co2 and I think it we don't we don't want to get too close to a thousand ppm because like that's that's actually Makes it uncomfortable to to to breathe like just existing in a thousand ppm co2 is uncomfortable.
02:01:11.000That's like a That's considered like an industrial hazard, right?
02:01:15.000just so so it's You know, that's actually, you start getting headaches and stuff, so it's, even without global warming, it's not comfortable to live in.
02:01:23.000So you don't want to get too close to that, but, I mean, I think we've got, I think we want to just move over, and if, I don't know, 50 to 100 years from now, we're, Yeah, we're, I don't know, mostly sustainable.
02:02:15.000I don't think we should vilify people for it, but I think we should just generally lean in the direction of sustainability.
02:02:23.000And I actually think solar is going to be a majority of Earth's energy generation in the future, and it's certainly trending that way.
02:02:33.000And so you get the solar power, you combine that with batteries, because obviously the sun doesn't shine at night, and then you use that to charge the electric cars, and you have a long-term sustainable solution.
02:02:46.000And you know, that's that's what Tesla's trying to move things towards.
02:02:48.000And I think we've made a lot of progress and progress in that regard.
02:02:51.000But when you look at our cars, we'd like we don't believe that environmentalism that caring about the environment should should mean that you have to suffer.
02:02:58.000So we make sure that our cars are are beautiful, that they drive well, that they're fast there.
02:03:31.000You use the word global warming and today they use the word climate change because, you know, you have some places that go up and so they were getting themselves in a little trouble with the word global warming because not every place is warming.
02:03:43.000Some places are going the opposite direction.
02:03:46.000You know, I'm sort of waiting for you to come up with solar panels on the roofs of your cars and on the trunks of the cars.
02:03:53.000It just seems like something that at some point you will come up with.
02:03:58.000But it would seem that a solar panel on the roofs, you know, on flat surfaces, on certain surfaces might be good.
02:04:05.000At least in certain areas of the country where you have the, or the world, where you have the sun.
02:04:10.000I would think, and I have no idea because that's not my world, but I would think that this would be something that would be interesting.
02:04:17.000But you know, the one thing that I don't understand is that people talk about global warming or they talk about climate change, but they never talk about nuclear warming.
02:04:27.000And for me, that's an immediate problem because you have, as I said, five countries where you have major nuclear and, you know, probably some others are getting there and that's, Very dangerous.
02:04:38.000That's where you need a strong American president because you just you don't want to have this proliferation.
02:04:43.000But you have five countries and getting more.
02:04:47.000You know, China is much less than us right now, but they're going to catch us sooner than people think.
02:06:47.000You know, when you see what happened, when you see what happened in Japan, where they say you won't be able to go on the land for about 3000 years.
02:06:57.000And in Russia, where they had the problem, where they, You know, there's a lot of bad things happened and they have a problem.
02:07:03.000And they say that in 2000 years, people will start to occupy the land again.
02:07:08.000You know, you realize it's pretty bad, but it's actually not that bad.
02:07:14.000So like after Fukushima happened in Japan, like people were asking me in California, You know, are we worried about like a nuclear cloud coming from Japan?
02:09:05.000It's a, it's a terrible thing and never happened in our country.
02:09:08.000It does happen in banana republics and third world countries, but it's never happened.
02:09:13.000And the incredible thing is it actually drove my numbers up because people see, you know, fortunately I have a platform like you or, you know, in all fairness, like a conversation like this where I can talk about it and people understand.
02:09:27.000I mean, you, you fight for election integrity and you end up getting indicted.
02:09:32.000No, because you're fighting for election integrity.
02:09:35.000And when the day comes that you can't fight for election integrity, you don't have a country anymore.
02:09:39.000So what happens, what happens is they went after their political opponent, me.
02:09:44.000Now Biden's, uh, you know, close to vegetable stage, in my opinion.
02:10:20.000It's clearly, I mean, it's clearly like we just don't have a president.
02:10:23.000You don't have a president and he's going to be worse than him because he, Is a San Francisco liberal who destroyed San Francisco and then as Attorney General, she destroyed California.
02:10:36.000You talk about location and we're talking about the sun and the water and all.
02:10:40.000There's nothing better than California.
02:10:45.000She was the original in San Francisco.
02:10:47.000She was the original Attorney General in California.
02:10:50.000What she has done to California is Well, you know better than I do, you just left California for a lot of those reasons.
02:10:58.000And what he's done with crime, with cashless bail, where you kill somebody.
02:11:04.000I mean, we have states there, you kill somebody and they let you out right away.
02:11:07.000I mean, you don't have to even put up and then they never find the people unless they kill again and then they let them out again.
02:11:14.000Our country is becoming a very dangerous place, and she is a radical left San Francisco liberal, and now she's trying to protect, now she's looking like she wants to be more Trump than Trump, if that's possible.
02:12:28.000It's a disgrace that she didn't say it.
02:12:31.000No, I mean, obviously what's happening sort of overnight is they're rewriting history and making Kamala sound like a moderate when in fact she is far left, like far, far left.
02:13:56.000And I say, if you're a Jewish person or if you believe in Israel, if you're a person that, you know, is very pro-Israel, if you vote for her, it's worse than Biden.
02:14:08.000But if you vote for her, you ought to have your head examined.
02:14:11.000And you see tonight, I mean, as we're doing this, I'm seeing reports coming that they expect an attack tonight or tomorrow from hundreds and maybe thousands of rockets.
02:14:21.000You know, their Iron Dome, as they call it, as we all call it, but their shield that they built, that can be swamped.
02:14:30.000We'll use the term that's appropriate, swamped.
02:14:32.000But they swamp it by shooting enough missiles.
02:14:35.000You know this better than anybody, by shooting enough missiles.
02:14:59.000I mean, it really is important for the public that may be listening to this to say, to look at Kamala's track record.
02:15:06.000You know, before the last, like, month, and say, uh, is that a track record you agree with?
02:15:12.000Um, and I think if you're an independent, uh, moderate, you definitely would not agree with it.
02:15:17.000Um, because it is, uh, her behavior has been far left, and we're seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt to rewrite history and make it sound like Kamala's moderate when she, in fact, is not moderate.
02:15:28.000Well, her, uh, her running mate, uh, approved, signed into legislation, tampons in boys' bathrooms, okay?
02:18:42.000We were, there were only seven countries that were paid up in NATO out of 28 at the time.
02:18:49.000The United States was subsidizing, the United States was subsidizing NATO, tremendously subsidizing NATO.
02:18:56.000And I said, I went in and I said, you got to pay up.
02:18:58.000If you don't pay up, we're not going to defend you any longer.
02:19:01.000I took a lot of heat, but you know what happened?
02:19:03.000Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in.
02:19:06.000And yeah, I think, I think a lot of the public isn't, isn't aware of the fact that the United States pays a disproportionate share of, of the NATO expenses.
02:19:15.000And then we get taken advantage of on trade.
02:19:32.000That is an appropriate thing to address.
02:19:35.000Well, you know, when you talk about cost cutting and savings and everything else, I mean, honestly, look, there's nobody that feels worse about the Ukraine situation than I do, because I know it would have never happened.
02:19:48.000He was very honorable to me, because when they went with the Russia hoax and they said I had a phone call with him, he said it was a perfect phone call.
02:20:26.000Now they've taken advantage of us incredibly, but you're going to do things with the right person.
02:20:31.000Yeah, well, I think it's obvious that you're a believer and an advocate of free speech because during your first time as president, you were attacked relentlessly every day, often very unfairly with false attacks.
02:20:45.000And you didn't try to shut down the media.
02:20:47.000You didn't try to inhibit their freedom of speech.
02:21:28.000Not a lot of people would have this conversation, but you know, we cover a lot of territory, but the beauty is that you, you know, we can have a conversation and.
02:21:37.000I'm able to get it out because I get to be there.
02:23:08.000Actually, she looked very much like our great First Lady, Melania.
02:23:15.000She didn't look like Camilla, that's right, but of course she's a beautiful woman, so we'll leave it at that, right?
02:23:22.000Yeah, well, you know, maybe, like, I think part of what, you know, people in America want to, you know, people in America want to feel excited and inspired about the future.
02:23:31.000They want to feel like the future is going to be better than the past, and that America's going to do things that are greater than we've done in the past, reach new heights that make you proud to be an American and excited about the future.
02:24:12.000But I think there are some grand projects that we could do.
02:24:17.000I mean, I think we could build a base on the moon.
02:24:21.000We could send American astronauts to Mars.
02:24:23.000We could build high-speed connections that are more advanced than anything else in the world between our cities, so people have fast transport.
02:24:32.000It's possible to solve traffic with tunnels.
02:24:37.000We've already made great progress in Vegas doing that.
02:24:41.000And just do things that are exciting and inspiring and make the future feel like it's better than the past.
02:24:47.000Well, I saw what you did in Vegas, and I'll tell you, it was amazing.
02:24:50.000I got to see, I took a big glimpse at it, and it's incredible.
02:25:07.000I think we could do some things like try to get an incredible high-speed rail between its cities, but I think it's actually possible with tunnels.
02:25:16.000If it was deregulation with an ability to actually Where it's like legal to actually do the tunnels, then you could have high-speed tunnels that are actually better than anything else in the world for high-speed transport between cities.
02:25:32.000And that would be something that, you know, Americans can say, wow, okay, we've got something that's cooler than anyone else in the world.
02:25:39.000That's the kind of thing that makes you proud to be an American.
02:25:41.000And much safer than surface trains, where there is a danger there, you know, with people, with crazy people.
02:26:13.000Yeah, I think also like there's, you know, kind of hopping on the excess regulation, but I think something that I think people can generally understand is that what happens with laws and regulations is that there's more and more of them every year.
02:26:28.000And unless there's a process to clean them up, eventually everything becomes illegal.
02:26:32.000And that actually slows down the development of new technologies.
02:26:36.000I mean, if you take the sort of, like, I think there's room for some reform at the FDA for improving the speed with which we approve drugs that could help save lives and improve people's lives.
02:27:10.000And, you know, it's a very bureaucratic group.
02:27:13.000Actually, it's a fine group of people in many cases.
02:27:16.000I got to know a lot of them, but I was pushing them really hard for regenerants, for so many different things that were really pretty amazing.
02:27:52.000It's just not like... It's nothing groundbreaking, but it is nice to hear him.
02:27:56.000I just wanted to hop on this point that there has to be an active process for reducing rules and regulations because otherwise they just keep building up every year and it's like hardening of the arteries and eventually everything's illegal or takes forever and then we just...
02:28:40.000But people would go to other countries because you couldn't use this, the product, even if they thought it worked because it's going through the FDA.
02:28:47.000I got it approved where you can, you basically, you look, nobody went, the doctors didn't want it because of the liability.
02:28:53.000The country didn't want it, our country, because they didn't want to get sued.
02:29:58.000Well, I mean, actually, to give you some props here, it's like if a drug is approved in Europe, which has a crazy amount of regulations, it should obviously be approved in the U.S.
02:30:08.000I mean, they have more regulations than we do.
02:30:11.000So why would a drug be approved in Europe and not in the U.S.?
02:30:24.000Some people go to Europe because a drug isn't approved here, but it's approved in Europe, and it's a drug that, generally speaking, would work.
02:30:33.000And I think as long as people are properly informed of the pros and cons, and, like, these are the risks, this is the risk, and, like, you make your own decision, that makes sense.
02:30:44.000Well, I think just, you know, in sort of closing up, and by the way, I'm looking at the numbers.
02:31:30.000Well, I think actually in terms of the number of people that will hear this conversation, Um, over the next, uh, few days, two weeks, uh, it's going to be hundreds.
02:32:15.000Maybe I'll call it Kamala Migrant Crime.
02:32:18.000But, you know, I mean, with all these things, I always try to, like, try to get to the ground truth by just asking people.
02:32:23.000And, you know, my mom lives in New York and I was like, You know, mom, you know, do you know, have any of your friends, you know, been attacked or assaulted?
02:32:31.000And she said, yeah, three of her friends in three separate incidents were assaulted just in recent months, just walking around the streets of New York.
02:32:40.000And I said, well, what happened to the people that assaulted them?
02:32:50.000And they don't even bother reporting it because There's no, they know that there's not, they're not going to, you know, people are not going to get prosecuted.
02:32:57.000They just, they just let, you know, violent criminals out in New York.
02:33:02.000The only one that gets prosecuted is Donald Trump.
02:35:32.000And, well, I mean, I just say, you know, here's to an exciting, inspiring future that people can look forward to and be optimistic and excited about what happens next.
02:35:40.000And that's the kind of future that I think you will bring as president.
02:35:59.000We can do it now, but if we were gonna suffer another four years like we've suffered for the last four years, I'm not sure the country can ever come back.
02:36:15.000And it's, you know, I'd just like to note to people listening, like, I've not been very political before.
02:36:21.000And if just, if you look at my track, my record, it's, I've actually been, I'm, I'm, I'm not like some sort of try to paint me as like a far right guy, which is absurd because I like making electric vehicles and, you know, solar and batteries, helping them with the environment.
02:36:33.000And, uh, And I actually supported Obama.
02:36:39.000I stood in line for six hours to shake Obama's hand when he was running for president.
02:36:43.000So it's not like I'm some sort of dyed-in-the-wool, long-term Republican.
02:36:48.000I call myself historically a moderate Democrat, but now I feel like We're really at a critical juncture for the country.
02:36:58.000And, you know, I think a lot of people thought, you know, the Biden administration would be a moderate administration, but it's not.
02:37:07.000And obviously, we're just going to see it.
02:38:01.000I've also experienced quite a bit of lawfare myself.
02:38:05.000I'm just trying to tell people my honest opinion.
02:38:08.000I haven't been really active in politics before, and I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate, if not moderate, slightly left.
02:38:19.000So this is to people out there who are in the moderate camp to say, I think you should support Donald Trump for president.
02:38:27.000And I think it's actually a very important junction in the road, and we're in deep trouble if it goes the other way.
02:39:41.000I mean, if, if I could summarize it perhaps, you know, I think, These are issues that I think most people in America would agree with, which is that we want safe and clean cities.
02:40:26.000or progressive. I don't understand how somebody could say that it's okay for them to empty
02:40:30.000prisons into our country. And again, I told you that crime rates all over the world are
02:40:35.000going way down, which makes sense. In fact, the next time what we'll do is if something
02:40:39.000happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in
02:40:44.000Venezuela because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country. Okay.
02:40:48.000So we'll go, you and I will go, and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela, because that's what's happening.
02:40:53.000Their crime rate's coming down, and our crime rate's going through the roof, and it's so simple.
02:40:58.000And you haven't seen anything yet, because these people have come into our country, and they're just getting acclimated.
02:41:04.000And they don't know about being politically correct law enforcement or lack of law enforcement.
02:41:10.000And our police, I have to just end with this, we have great police, we have great law enforcement, but they're not allowed to do their job.
02:41:17.000They have to be able to do their job without being destroyed.
02:41:22.000And it's obviously demoralizing if you're a police officer risking your life to, you know, to, you know, to arrest violent criminals who could kill you and do kill you sometimes.
02:41:33.000Um, and then you, you arrest the violent criminal and then the, the DA, you know, doesn't prosecute and that's let the guy out.
02:41:40.000Well, then like, why, why should a police officer risk their life, uh, to arrest a violent felon?
02:41:47.000Well, even worse, even worse, they prosecute the police officer.
02:41:53.000They go after it and they prosecute the police officer and they take away his pension.
02:45:05.000They wouldn't take them back for Obama.
02:45:06.000They wouldn't take them back for anybody.
02:45:09.000And now we have a problem because we have this guy and they, again, they don't take him back anymore with Biden because they don't respect him.
02:45:18.000Yeah, so it's just it's just got to it's got to be done.
02:45:35.000Violent repeat violent offenders that are not that that that don't get incarcerated because they will they will obviously by definition continue to to.
02:46:56.000And if we don't do that, we're, you know, it's, it's going to all, it's going to all disappear.
02:47:00.000There's never been a society like this where you're allowed to do anything you want and nothing happens.
02:47:06.000And I'm talking about violent crime and it's going to get more violent because these are really, really violent people.
02:47:12.000And we're going to get them out of our country and we're going to get them back to where, because they were sent here by the presidents and by the various people that run those countries.
02:47:20.000And I know every one of those guys and they're smart people.
02:47:24.000And they're streetwise people, and they really think that the USA is stupid.
02:47:29.000They think we're run by stupid people, and they happen to be right.
02:47:32.000But when I was there, we had no problem.
02:48:15.000I have beautiful oceans that I have places.
02:48:17.000I, you know, I, this was, but I felt it was important.
02:48:21.000And if I had to, if I had to do it over again, You probably think I'm crazy for doing it, actually, but if I had to do it over again, I would have done it over again, because this is so much more important than me or my life.
02:48:58.000It's gotten to the point where people just don't even bother reporting crime in a lot of cities because they know nothing is going to happen.
02:49:04.000You know, that's what I hear anecdotally from people all the time.
02:49:07.000Um, so, you know, it's just, uh, you know, my value to people out there, like my, you know, the things I think are important for the future is like, we've got to have safe cities.
02:50:23.000You don't hear about the American dream anymore.
02:50:25.000You don't hear about the American dream anymore and you're going to hear about it.
02:50:32.000People, they need that incentive to go out and do it and they're going to love their lives.
02:50:38.000They're going to love, they're going to look forward to getting up in the morning and going to, you know, going to a job that they love, not a job that they can't stand or not.
02:50:46.000Any job at all where they have no money, where they literally have no money and then they end up with violence and lots of other problems.
02:50:52.000No, we're going to do, we're going to do some great things.
02:50:54.000And I learned a lot in the first, we had a great economy and all of that.
02:51:49.000I hope you keep going and just continue to do well and we're going to have a big election coming up and I think November 5th will be the most important day in the history of our country.
02:52:00.000I think that election will be the most important election and I think it'll end up being maybe the most important day in the history of our country because If we don't win, I just feel so sorry for everybody.
02:53:53.000Well I think about it, say he was on Joe Rogan's podcast, right, and he's speaking for an hour, two hours, maybe even three hours, it's really tough to say that whole time he was speaking was a 10.
02:54:03.000I agree if it was a speech it's probably a little easier to judge that based on a scale of 1 to 10, but when you have this flowing conversation between two powerful men it's pretty tough to say your performance was a 10 or even a 9, but I think 8.5 as far as just what he talked about, what he discussed, and the substance of it.
02:54:20.000Yeah, yeah, I thought it was pretty good.
02:54:21.000I don't know, you guys want any final thoughts before we wrap up and I can go to bed?
02:54:25.000Yeah, I mean, it lasted as long as it needed to.
02:54:32.000I'll stick with my nine because I'm not going to retract it because I already made it, but I was thinking about his energy tonight was really just off the charts.
02:54:40.000It was, you were saying, like more like 2016.
02:54:42.000He was a little snootier in the fun way.
02:54:45.000He was He was talking about issues quite a bit.
02:54:48.000Opening with the assassination was really good.
02:54:49.000Yeah, I think part of it is, and I said this right before, but it felt like you were listening in on a private phone call between Elon Musk and Trump, and you got to hear them touch on a lot of really interesting points.
02:55:00.000I'm glad they talked about the attempted assassination.
02:55:02.000I think one of the big Crimes, I guess, but maybe that's a little dramatic, is that, you know, we had this insane, tragic, you know, nearly catastrophic moment happen.
02:55:14.000And eventually, and like kind of, you know, on a dime, it was able to get washed away.
02:55:19.000Democrats don't really talk about it anymore.
02:55:20.000They'll maybe mention the rally, but you know, what happened was tragic in the way Trump responded to that moment, which Elon highlighted, is a big deal.
02:55:28.000And so I hope that when journalists are writing about this, in addition to the policies that they now get to talk about, which Kamala Harris gives them no policies to talk about that they'll also talk about kind of what we went through in July as a country because it is a big deal.
02:55:44.000Like I said, I think I rated it an A8, 7.5.
02:55:47.000It's not that anything was bad, it's just that, like, nothing super groundbreaking happened.
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02:57:51.000Yeah, it's been great having you both here.
02:57:52.000I know it's sort of unusual IRL for us because we're mostly listening in, but you both had great points, and it's fun to be witness to these things with all of you.