Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Donald Trump VOWS To Appeal NY State Sentencing In Hush Money Trial w-Rep. Riley Moore | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 Donald Trump has been sentenced today in the hush money trial.

00:00:35.000 He was sentenced to unconditional discharge, which basically is like nothing.

00:00:41.000 So basically it's 12 more years of Democrats saying that he's a mean baddie.

00:00:45.000 So we've got Mark Zuckerberg.

00:00:51.000 From Timcast News, Mark Zuckerberg was on Joe Rogan today, and he was bro-ing down.

00:00:57.000 We'll talk about that a little bit.

00:00:59.000 I watched it, and he was talking a lot about BJJ. It was pretty interesting, a lot of the Brazilian jiu-jitsu talk.

00:01:07.000 We've got a story coming out from CNN. Joe Biden is complaining.

00:01:14.000 About Mark Zuckerberg and his decision to actually remove the fact checkers and go to a system more like community notes.

00:01:23.000 We've got a story about California fires, which obviously that's probably the most morose, terrible thing that's been going on in the country.

00:01:34.000 There are talks of people that have been arrested for setting fires for arson.

00:01:41.000 There's discussions about how many people have lost their lives and stuff, so we'll cover that.

00:01:47.000 And then there was a Supreme Court, it seems likely, to uphold a TikTok ban, and so we'll talk about that tonight.

00:01:58.000 But before we get started, go buy some Casperu coffee.

00:02:03.000 Two Weeks Till Christmas is available. 0.60

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00:02:15.000 Tim was talking last night about how many bags they've been selling.

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00:02:26.000 You also, you can go to theboonies.com.

00:02:29.000 Is it theboonies.com?

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00:02:31.000 And pick up the new board, the 28th Amendment, the sexy chicken on it. 1.00

00:02:38.000 The 28th Amendment, chickens being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed.

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00:03:09.000 So, yeah.

00:03:11.000 So, why don't we go ahead and get started with our guest, Riley Moore.

00:03:16.000 Hello, Riley Moore, Congressman, 2nd Congressional District right here in West Virginia.

00:03:21.000 A little strange to say.

00:03:22.000 Glad to be back.

00:03:23.000 Officially Swamp Monster.

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00:03:27.000 Shout out to a couple guys, Jimmy Berry, longtime listener, and Jay at True Performance Fitness, which I know you like that place too.

00:03:33.000 Yes, yes, awesome.

00:03:34.000 Thank you for coming.

00:03:35.000 We've got Mary Morgan's here. 1.00

00:03:37.000 You've got Mary Morgan.

00:03:39.000 Hi, guys.

00:03:39.000 You normally see me co-hosting Pop Culture Crisis, but I'm happy to be back on Philcast IRL.

00:03:47.000 And Brett is here across from me to keep me in check tonight.

00:03:50.000 Yes.

00:03:51.000 I mean, it's just really hard for me to talk about politics without saying bannable things.

00:03:56.000 So Brett's here to kind of keep an eye on me, I think.

00:04:00.000 That is 100% what happens.

00:04:02.000 Whenever one of us goes on IRL, Mary talks about how she's like, look, I would do it, but I can't do it without getting everybody banned and in trouble.

00:04:10.000 Like we're ungovernable.

00:04:12.000 It's exactly true.

00:04:13.000 So yes, it's going to be a lot of fun.

00:04:14.000 Let's get started, guys.

00:04:17.000 And Serge is here.

00:04:18.000 Well, yeah, but he doesn't like to talk anymore.

00:04:20.000 He doesn't like to be on the camera.

00:04:22.000 I don't think that it's shy.

00:04:23.000 I feel like he's taunting people on X. From the post-millennial, Trump says New York sentencing is a despicable charade and vows to appeal.

00:04:34.000 On Friday, President-elect Trump...

00:04:36.000 said that the radical Democrats have lost another pathetic and un-American witch hunt after Judge Juan Marchand imposed a sentence of unconditional discharge in the New York falsified business record case Donald Trump said the radical Democrats have lost another pathetic un-American witch hunt after spending tens of millions of dollars wasting over six years of obsessive work that should have been spent on protecting New Yorkers from violent,

00:05:01.000 rampant crime that is destroying the city and state, coordinating with the Biden-Harris Department of Injustice and Lawless Weaponization, and bringing completely baseless illegal and fake discharges against your 45th and 47th president, me.

00:05:17.000 I was given an unconditional discharge, Trump wrote.

00:05:21.000 If you don't know what an unconditional discharge is, it is a sentence in a criminal case that typically means that a defendant is released from all disability arising under a sentence, including probation and parole.

00:05:33.000 A sentence of unconditional discharge is imposed when the judge does not believe that it would be helpful to impose any conditions on the defendant.

00:05:39.000 Unconditional discharge and eligibility is governed by state laws, which vary by state.

00:05:44.000 And if you ask me, this is literally Literally, just so that way the Democrats can say, Donald Trump is a convicted felon and we got him.

00:05:54.000 It's 100% correct.

00:05:56.000 I mean, that's what the whole point of this is, is that we've sworn in a convicted felon as the President of the United States.

00:06:03.000 That's his whole point of this.

00:06:04.000 I mean, even the prosecutor, you remember Alvin Bragg, he backed off of this and didn't want to move forward.

00:06:09.000 It was the judge himself that decided to move forward on this.

00:06:13.000 But I would like to point out this truth post by...

00:06:17.000 President Trump, he is very much back in rare form.

00:06:23.000 You can't read that and not like the guy.

00:06:26.000 My favorite thing about Donald Trump was his Twitter account and his Truth Social account.

00:06:32.000 So it's good to have you back, Don.

00:06:35.000 It's good to have you back.

00:06:36.000 I'm not trying to be a cheerleader or anything, but did they think the...

00:06:40.000 The convicted felon part was going to make him sound less cool.

00:06:45.000 Fair enough.

00:06:46.000 I really do think that it was just about they wanted to be able to say on, you know, because it's really, it's about, it's about the very, very committed progressives, you know, and they want to be able to say this is about, you know, or they want to be able to say on X and on, you know, journalists want to be able to say, hey, you know, we are, what do you got?

00:07:05.000 Oh, okay.

00:07:06.000 They want to be able to say that we got him.

00:07:09.000 It's just about we got him.

00:07:10.000 See, he actually is a convicted felon, and now we can officially say it, and it's real, and that means that we kind of won, even though he's back.

00:07:19.000 And now we can poo-poo all of the conservatives and anybody that would actually vote for him.

00:07:25.000 We can feel great about ourselves while we say, you're a terrible person because you voted for a convicted felon, and I didn't, so I'm so much better than you.

00:07:34.000 If it's not overturned by the court, I hope he pardons himself on the way out.

00:07:40.000 Do they do that?

00:07:40.000 I hope so, too.

00:07:41.000 I don't know.

00:07:42.000 I don't know if that's ever been tried.

00:07:43.000 I know that question has been asked before, but I never got a straight answer.

00:07:46.000 So is the point of doing it before the swearing-in ceremony, in your opinion, you think it's because they want to be able to say, you swore in a convicted felon?

00:07:54.000 I just find it funny because it's not like that stopped people from having that argument on Twitter, because the same people who are saying that he's a convicted felon before he actually had the conviction are the same people who talk about being an insurrectionist, despite the fact that nobody ever...

00:08:09.000 These are just verbal tics.

00:08:11.000 These people basically have Tourette's.

00:08:13.000 They're like, convicted felon! 0.98

00:08:15.000 Like, racist! 0.88

00:08:15.000 Like, if it wasn't convicted felon, it was gonna be something else. 0.88

00:08:19.000 So no one is listening.

00:08:20.000 I think you're exactly right.

00:08:21.000 Or ultimately meaningless.

00:08:23.000 Well, it's like when they bring up, you know, he's been legally prosecuted for sex crimes, right?

00:08:29.000 He's adjudicated.

00:08:29.000 Yeah.

00:08:30.000 So, I mean, we got a post from Ed Krasenstein, and I'm gonna save my, you know...

00:08:39.000 My opinion of Ed Krasentine.

00:08:41.000 But it's just so that he could say, you know, convicted felon, that's it, that's the tweet.

00:08:45.000 The whole point of it was just to be able to say, look, he is a very bad man, and now the court even says that he's a very bad man.

00:08:54.000 Even though this whole case is fabricated because there's no underlying crime that raises the 34 misdemeanors to felonies.

00:09:02.000 I thought these people were like...

00:09:04.000 Opposed to the system.

00:09:06.000 Criminal justice system. 0.99

00:09:09.000 Corrupt.

00:09:10.000 They're not opposed to anything at all.

00:09:11.000 Don't screenshot me doing that.

00:09:14.000 Now you just told them.

00:09:15.000 That doesn't matter anyways because they believe there's no truth but power so they love to wield the system against other people despite the fact that they don't believe in the system to begin with.

00:09:24.000 That's exactly right. 0.97

00:09:25.000 Now we're just spinning our wheels saying they're hypocrites. 0.93

00:09:27.000 They're not even hypocrites because it's not about hypocrisy. 0.95

00:09:31.000 It's about hierarchy.

00:09:33.000 It's okay for them to do things, but anyone else that does it, no matter what you do, you're bad, so they're just going to poo-poo you no matter what you do.

00:09:42.000 And justify the means to them.

00:09:43.000 Absolutely.

00:09:44.000 And Ed never disappoints to do something disappointing.

00:09:47.000 I mean, the worst part of that tweet is that that's the tweet.

00:09:51.000 It's how boring it is.

00:09:52.000 It's not even creative.

00:09:53.000 From the guy that just yesterday, when Barack Obama and Donald Trump were sitting next to each other and yucking it up at the funeral of President Carter, he was like, oh, Oh, you know, we should come together and see even they can be civil and et cetera, et cetera.

00:10:08.000 And then, of course, today he's like convicted felon.

00:10:11.000 Ha ha.

00:10:12.000 Gotcha.

00:10:12.000 That's actually the most maddening part about it, right?

00:10:14.000 Because there's no actual intellectual through line, meaning that he can say that one day and then act completely different another day.

00:10:20.000 So how do you actually get along with people who don't have any type of consistency in their behavior?

00:10:26.000 You don't.

00:10:26.000 You mean them.

00:10:27.000 You can't inherently trust someone who's going to act completely different the next day.

00:10:33.000 You meme them until they cry, and then you meme them crying.

00:10:37.000 That's completely what you do.

00:10:38.000 There is no, just like you said, though, there is no consistency, there is no ideology underneath it except for power.

00:10:46.000 What do we got?

00:10:47.000 Breaking.

00:10:48.000 This is from Brian Krasenstein on X. Breaking.

00:10:52.000 Judge Juan Marchand sentences Donald Trump to unconditional discharge.

00:10:56.000 He is officially a convicted felon for all the people who shouted and screamed at me for calling him that before.

00:11:02.000 I told you so.

00:11:04.000 He was.

00:11:05.000 Marchand.

00:11:06.000 However, the considerable...

00:11:08.000 Indeed, extraordinary legal protections afforded the office of the chief executive is a factor that overrides all others, he says.

00:11:15.000 They do not reduce the seriousness of the crime or justify its commission in any way.

00:11:19.000 One power they do not provide is the power to erase a jury verdict.

00:11:24.000 Ordinary citizens do not receive those legal protections.

00:11:27.000 It is in the office of the president that bestows those to the officeholder.

00:11:32.000 It is the citizenry of this nation that recently decided that you should once again receive But, as I was saying earlier, and in case, I mean, we've gone over the conditions of this particular case multiple times, but in case you aren't aware, the felony charges, the 34 felony charges that they love to talk about, that Donald Trump has been charged with, they're not felonies in and of themselves.

00:12:00.000 They need an underlying crime.

00:12:03.000 That happened prior to the felonies to raise them from misdemeanors to felonies.

00:12:08.000 And there's no crime that anyone has articulated or can articulate that Donald Trump has committed to raise them to felonies.

00:12:17.000 So these are all actually misdemeanors.

00:12:19.000 And on top of that, the statute of limitations of this particular crime, they had run out and they extended them so that Donald Trump could be charged.

00:12:30.000 This is Banana Republic stuff.

00:12:32.000 And it is unquestionable that it is.

00:12:36.000 So anyone that's taking joy, like Brian Krasenstein or anyone else, that takes joy and glee in saying, oh, Donald Trump's now really a convicted felon, these are the people that allow for society to break down from the inside.

00:12:49.000 Because if you don't have a judiciary that the people can trust, then you have people deciding that it's not worth going to the police.

00:12:57.000 That means that they take the law into their own hands or they don't report crimes.

00:13:02.000 And you end up with a downward cycle in your city.

00:13:06.000 And you see this in New York now where people aren't reporting crimes.

00:13:11.000 They don't go to the police.

00:13:13.000 They don't feel like the police are going to do anything.

00:13:14.000 And it's caused massive uptick in crime.

00:13:19.000 It causes a breakdown in society, you know?

00:13:21.000 Yeah, I mean, and it also just erodes trust in the entire system and the citizenry, right?

00:13:25.000 I mean, there's guys like Maduro down in Venezuela that just stole another election looking at us like, wow, I can't believe they did that.

00:13:31.000 You know, I mean, this really erodes our legitimacy.

00:13:40.000 Our authority, I guess, as you could say, is the United States of America.

00:13:44.000 I mean, it puts us in a really bad position where we're trying to tell maybe perhaps other countries or other people like, hey, maybe don't do this or this or that.

00:13:52.000 How can we even say anything now?

00:13:54.000 Right?

00:13:55.000 I mean, there's no moral authority here in the United States.

00:13:58.000 Because the CIA will tell them what to do.

00:13:59.000 Yeah, very quietly.

00:14:00.000 And the other thing that's annoying about stuff like this is like...

00:14:03.000 How far down the timeline, whether it's one of the Krasensteins or anybody else that's like a far left on Twitter, a far leftist on Twitter, how far down their timeline from some tweet about Donald Trump being a convicted felon will I have to go to find something about how great Luigi is.

00:14:18.000 But he's not convicted!

00:14:21.000 Right.

00:14:22.000 That's the problem.

00:14:23.000 To be fair, I do think that, and to be fair to Krasenstein, I do think that he's been fairly good on Luigi.

00:14:30.000 I don't think that he's been...

00:14:32.000 Using him as more of a baseline for that sect of Twitter to begin with.

00:14:36.000 He did a bad thing.

00:14:37.000 It's not hard to find people that have made apologies for Luigi on the left at all.

00:14:43.000 I want to pose a question.

00:14:45.000 What would have been Trump's sentencing outcome had he not won the election, in your opinion?

00:14:52.000 They would have thrown the book at him.

00:14:54.000 He'd be in prison.

00:14:55.000 I'm just checking what y'all think about that, because I was worried while he was still on the campaign trail, Kind of spacey, kind of tired, and I was concerned that he, like, does he really understand the gravity of the situation for himself?

00:15:13.000 Just selfishly?

00:15:14.000 I think so.

00:15:15.000 And then afterwards, I listened to this interview that Siaka Massaqua gave recently, and he talked about getting persecuted for appearing at January 6th and committing no crime.

00:15:29.000 But he was certain that he was going to go to federal prison if Trump didn't win this election.

00:15:35.000 Is Siakam the guy from Daily Wire?

00:15:36.000 He was at that election event.

00:15:38.000 We had him on the show, remember?

00:15:39.000 We did, yeah.

00:15:40.000 They follow him at the airport.

00:15:42.000 He's like, I go to the airport and they're just there.

00:15:44.000 Right.

00:15:44.000 He was arrested right after the premiere event for Lady Ballers and it was timed so that there would be as much media coverage as possible.

00:15:53.000 And he knew for a fact that he was going to...

00:15:56.000 Go to federal prison if Trump didn't win.

00:15:58.000 I just felt like there was so much hanging in the balance and we weren't really talking about it.

00:16:04.000 I'm still afraid.

00:16:05.000 The inauguration is coming up and I'm worried, genuinely, that there's going to be some kind of black swan event. 1.00

00:16:14.000 I'm serious.

00:16:15.000 Some kind of another assassination attempt.

00:16:18.000 Some kind of mass casualty situation.

00:16:22.000 I don't completely understand that kind of worry.

00:16:25.000 I don't think because Donald Trump has won and it's been certified, even if something happened to Donald Trump, it would be J.D. Vance that would be inaugurated.

00:16:34.000 J.D. Vance would become the president.

00:16:35.000 And I do believe that J.D. Vance is as competent as Donald Trump or possibly more, if I'm honest.

00:16:42.000 I think that J.D. Vance is really, really a sharp guy.

00:16:45.000 And I think Donald Trump gets a lot of...

00:16:49.000 Things right because he's got good gut instincts, but he's not, you know, he's not reading.

00:16:53.000 I would imagine there are a lot of interested parties who like J.D. Vance and don't like Trump.

00:17:00.000 Possibly, but so at least the premise of the conversation that we've been having here is the threat of people with conservative or unpopular or counterculture ideas being punished by the government.

00:17:14.000 So like you were talking about, I forget the guy's name, I'm sorry, what was his name?

00:17:17.000 Siakka.

00:17:18.000 So I remember when, you know, after, when Donald Trump won, you know, he was walking around the Daily Wire like, I don't have to go to jail!

00:17:25.000 He was serious.

00:17:26.000 And it was truly, like, it was real relief.

00:17:30.000 Yeah.

00:17:31.000 And I don't think there's any question in most people's minds that if Donald Trump had lost, he would have gone to jail.

00:17:37.000 He would have ended up...

00:17:38.000 Oh, he definitely would have been in prison.

00:17:40.000 Yeah.

00:17:40.000 Yeah, I mean, that's not...

00:17:41.000 Even, like, a question.

00:17:42.000 Yeah, and so today, we did the culture.

00:17:44.000 I did the culture this morning with Kyle Serafin and George Hill, I think was his name, was his last name.

00:17:50.000 And that was one of the things that we talked about a lot, is the situation with the FBI and with the government, the way that they've been treating the American people, violating their rights, and completely and totally, you know, completely in the pocket of the...

00:18:10.000 The intelligence community, they've been running roughshod over the Fourth Amendment and stuff.

00:18:14.000 And I think that the idea that people could have dissenting opinions, if it had been Kamala Harris that won, they would have gone after Elon Musk for having dissenting opinions.

00:18:25.000 They would have gone after...

00:18:26.000 I mean, I imagine they would continue...

00:18:30.000 Probably would have come up with a reason to discharge Tulsi Gabbard and possibly put her in jail. 1.00

00:18:36.000 I mean, Elon, who's – I mean, SpaceX is so reliant, obviously, on all of their contracts for launch vehicles to go into space.

00:18:44.000 That would have been the end of that.

00:18:45.000 I mean, he put it all – I mean, he pushed it all in, put it all on the line.

00:18:49.000 And I do think that there is – this is my view – divine intervention in this entire thing. 0.99

00:18:55.000 Donald Trump should be dead. 1.00

00:18:57.000 He should be dead. 1.00

00:18:58.000 It was a centimeter away from killing him. 0.99

00:19:00.000 I literally think God intervened in this, and that is why he's here.

00:19:05.000 I think he understands that.

00:19:06.000 He's talked about that.

00:19:08.000 And if you haven't watched his barn burner of a press conference here lately, it was—I've watched it twice.

00:19:15.000 It was great.

00:19:16.000 It's like peak Trump.

00:19:18.000 He's definitely back.

00:19:19.000 Was this from yesterday?

00:19:20.000 Yeah.

00:19:20.000 And on these whole charges, I mean, you know, one of them was him overvaluing like Mar-a-Lago or something like that, and he says, $18 million?

00:19:28.000 This chandelier's $18 million.

00:19:32.000 So real quick about that, the idea of the problems that they said that arose around Mar-a-Lago and the value and stuff like that, that calls into question if your property rights are safe, and if you can rely on the government, and if you don't have...

00:19:47.000 Property rights are the engine, are the very foundation of any economy.

00:19:53.000 If you cannot trust the government to protect your property rights and Deal fairly with you, then investment stops.

00:20:00.000 Kevin Leary was talking about this on, not MSNBC, but the...

00:20:04.000 CNBC. CNBC. Yeah, I saw that.

00:20:06.000 He was talking about that.

00:20:07.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:20:08.000 If you don't have a government that will protect property rights for investment, no one's going to invest anything, and your economy will crash.

00:20:15.000 And if the United States economy crashes, the whole world economy crashes.

00:20:19.000 And you're talking...

00:20:20.000 And people people get wrapped up in the oh, you know, it's only an economic argument.

00:20:25.000 If the United States economy crashes, tens of millions, possibly hundreds of millions of people die because the United States gives more money away and gives more food to places that are on the verge of starvation than any other country in the world.

00:20:39.000 So the U.S., if the U.S. economy crashes, it's not just, oh, number go down.

00:20:44.000 It's millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of dead people.

00:20:49.000 So the idea that it's just an economic argument, that is a total farce.

00:20:53.000 It is the United States that gives away more money and gives away more food aid than any other country in the world.

00:21:01.000 So we were talking about, real quickly, about Zuckerberg and stuff.

00:21:05.000 So let's go to this story from Tim Cass News.

00:21:10.000 Mark Zuckerberg was on...

00:21:12.000 Joe Rogan, and he was saying that the people from the Biden administration would call up our team and scream at them and curse.

00:21:20.000 So we're going to go ahead and play this here a little clip.

00:21:24.000 There's so much going on.

00:21:26.000 I want to put that in people's heads before we go on.

00:21:29.000 Understand the kind of numbers that we're talking about here.

00:21:33.000 Now understand you have the pandemic, and then you have...

00:21:38.000 The administration is doing something where I think they crossed the line, where it gets really weird, where they're saying what you were saying.

00:21:44.000 They were trying to get you to take down vaccine side effects, which is just crazy.

00:21:51.000 Yeah, so, I mean, like you're saying, I mean, this is...

00:21:56.000 It's so complicated, this system, that I could spend every minute of all of my time doing this and not actually focused on building any of the things that we're trying to do.

00:22:05.000 AI, glasses, the future of social media, all that stuff.

00:22:09.000 So I get involved in this stuff, but in general, we have a policy team.

00:22:14.000 There are people who I trust.

00:22:15.000 The people are kind of working on this on a day-to-day basis.

00:22:17.000 And the interactions that I was just referring to, a lot of this is documented.

00:22:25.000 You know, Jim Jordan and the House had this whole investigation and committee into the kind of government censorship around stuff like this.

00:22:33.000 And we produced all these documents and it's all in the public domain.

00:22:35.000 I mean, basically, these people from the Biden administration would...

00:22:40.000 Call up our team and scream at them and curse.

00:22:43.000 These documents are all kind of out there.

00:22:46.000 Did you record any of those phone calls?

00:22:48.000 No, I don't think we were.

00:22:50.000 I want to listen.

00:22:52.000 The emails are published.

00:22:54.000 It's all kind of out there.

00:22:56.000 Can we believe that they didn't record any of those calls?

00:22:59.000 No.

00:23:00.000 I'm going to press X to doubt on that one.

00:23:04.000 I would love to see those kind of things come out.

00:23:08.000 The idea that the federal government leaned so heavily on Facebook, this isn't a surprise to us here, but it is nice to hear someone like Zuckerberg admitting it.

00:23:19.000 I mean, the Twitter files came out and you knew what the government was doing at Twitter before Elon Musk got in there.

00:23:28.000 And honestly, again, you were talking about divine intervention.

00:23:32.000 While I don't share your faith, it is clear that without things like Elon Musk buying Twitter, without things like Donald Trump moving his head just an inch or two, the whole world would be different right now.

00:23:48.000 And so that brings us to this story.

00:23:52.000 Old man yells at the clouds.

00:23:54.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:23:55.000 Biden says that Meta's decision to get rid of fact-checkers is really shameful, which really, I mean...

00:24:01.000 It speaks to the posture of the federal government that says, you know, they're no longer cooperating with us.

00:24:10.000 He voted for Trump and this is the way he's talking.

00:24:15.000 You know, you'd think that he'd be more friendly, that the Bidens would be more friendly to these developments.

00:24:22.000 But no, it's...

00:24:24.000 Do you want to go ahead and listen to this little bit of... 0.51

00:24:27.000 Do you want to hear the old man poop his pants? 0.91

00:24:30.000 Would you comment on Meta's decision to end its fact-checking operations in the United States?

00:24:37.000 Is that a good decision in your opinion?

00:24:39.000 Look, the whole idea of walking away from fact-checking as well as not reporting anything having to do with...

00:25:01.000 It's okay to laugh, guys.

00:25:03.000 You would never make it in the podcasting world.

00:25:05.000 I find to be just contrary to American, justice American, the way we talk about one another.

00:25:14.000 Dude, this is gross.

00:25:14.000 This isn't you, dude.

00:25:15.000 Telling the truth matters.

00:25:17.000 I mean, it's a...

00:25:19.000 You can see his mind just working overtime to try to formulate.

00:25:21.000 I know I'm on national television, but you all are local reporters and national reporters.

00:25:27.000 This is not a real question, but what do you think?

00:25:30.000 You think it doesn't matter?

00:25:32.000 The squirrel at the control panel.

00:25:35.000 Millions of people read it, things that are simply not true?

00:25:38.000 I mean, I don't know what that's all about.

00:25:41.000 It's just completely contrary to everything America's about.

00:25:45.000 We want to tell the truth.

00:25:48.000 We haven't always done it in a nation, but we want to tell the truth.

00:25:51.000 And the idea...

00:25:53.000 The idea!

00:25:54.000 You know, a billionaire can buy something and say, by the way, from this point on, we're not going to fact check anything.

00:26:02.000 And you know, when you have millions of people going online reading this stuff, it is...

00:26:09.000 Anyway.

00:26:10.000 So Joe Biden has come out against the freedom of the press and the freedom of speech.

00:26:16.000 I mean, that's what it sounded like to me.

00:26:17.000 I couldn't really tell.

00:26:19.000 I do like in the future that the people in charge are like, look, if you forget what you're saying, just ask the reporters what they think.

00:26:26.000 Man, what do you all think?

00:26:28.000 The idea!

00:26:30.000 I mean, so, you know, the audacity of the old man to make some of those statements.

00:26:37.000 I mean...

00:26:38.000 I do think that he is aware of the things that he's saying at that time.

00:26:44.000 I do think that he knows that he's saying, oh, you know, the fact-checkers were actually fact-checking.

00:26:53.000 I think he knows that he's saying that.

00:26:54.000 I don't know for sure if he knows that they weren't, and I don't know that he understands what, like, community notes.

00:27:02.000 I guarantee he doesn't know that.

00:27:04.000 And that's the system that they're going to...

00:27:07.000 Mark Zuckerberg was saying on the Joe Rogan podcast that they're going to be implementing something similar to Community Notes where the actual users...

00:27:16.000 The actual users of Facebook, so what do you think you're going to get out of that?

00:27:20.000 But the actual users are going to be upvoting and downvoting stuff.

00:27:24.000 I assume that maybe he's going to actually, it'll be like, it'll actually be on Instagram where it'll get, you know, normal stuff.

00:27:30.000 Because it's just going to be Boomerville on Facebook.

00:27:32.000 Right.

00:27:33.000 Things that Nana believes.

00:27:35.000 I will be honest, I don't like the way that community notes are used on X. It seems like the most part they're just kind of used as clapbacks and like sassy little remarks.

00:27:49.000 The community notes are turning into memes.

00:27:53.000 Before community notes were used, you just looked at the replies to a tweet and saw people refuting it.

00:28:00.000 But do you mean like you were asking more of the actual engagement between you and your audience to know that you had to go down through the comments to actually find the truth, whereas now you just looked to the note.

00:28:11.000 We didn't need to dumb it down like that.

00:28:13.000 And the fact that there were contradicting pieces of information all over the place meant that you go down your timeline and continue reading until you get some amalgamation of what's actually going on.

00:28:23.000 If you have more than two brain cells, right?

00:28:27.000 Well, do you so do you think that I don't think it's crazy and I think that there's there's probably substance to it.

00:28:35.000 But do you think that this system is better than the fact checkers?

00:28:38.000 Okay, yes.

00:28:39.000 Okay.

00:28:39.000 But why do we need either one?

00:28:41.000 That's my question.

00:28:42.000 I'm not sure that we do, but I do think that considering the fact that...

00:28:48.000 I think that this has come a long way from, you know, approved messaging from the establishment, which is what fact-checkers were.

00:28:59.000 I mean, they were, Mark Zuckerberg was saying that they're unquestionably ideological.

00:29:04.000 And that they had a specific motivation, and they were telling him that things that were obviously true, that he knew were true, he was saying they were saying things, they're like, no, you have to take this down, and this isn't true and stuff.

00:29:17.000 And if that's what fact-checkers are doing, then that flies in the face of everything the old man said.

00:29:22.000 Well, let me ask you this, though.

00:29:24.000 To what point do you think this is?

00:29:26.000 He's shifting really just his business model because Elon's crushing it on X.

00:29:32.000 Yes.

00:29:33.000 And he's just trying to catch up.

00:29:35.000 And it's just a shift in the business model.

00:29:37.000 His mind, his mentality, I'm sure, has not changed one way or the other.

00:29:40.000 But it's just – But I mean – fair enough.

00:29:42.000 Which is good.

00:29:44.000 Do we believe that Mark Zuckerberg just woke up on the right side of the bed one day and was like – I was wrong about everything.

00:29:52.000 The whole point is that once you realize that there's a better business model out there that flies in the face of everything that's been going on for the last 8 to 10 years, the idea is you financially encourage it for them.

00:30:04.000 Because the best way to get somebody to believe what you believe or help them see the truth is to make it financially beneficial for them if we're talking in the business market.

00:30:13.000 Because that's what they're looking to do.

00:30:15.000 They want to make money and they want to continue growing their business.

00:30:18.000 Right.

00:30:18.000 Which is, look, it's capitalism.

00:30:20.000 It's working.

00:30:20.000 That's great.

00:30:23.000 Moved him in that direction.

00:30:24.000 I just don't think it's him.

00:30:26.000 No, but I don't expect that to.

00:30:28.000 But Elon actually did it, in my view.

00:30:31.000 There was some altruism to what Elon did.

00:30:35.000 I agree.

00:30:35.000 Because he took a big risk.

00:30:36.000 As far as Zuckerberg goes, though, I mean, I think, honestly, I think a lot of what, one of the things that Zuckerberg was mentioning was when the United States applies pressure like that, the rest of the world takes notice, and they start applying pressure as well.

00:30:49.000 So they couldn't, like, they had to...

00:30:52.000 They had to deal with the United States and then the rest of the world decided they were really going to come down on them.

00:30:57.000 Because if the United States isn't standing up and saying, no, we don't do this, we don't allow this, there was a time where the United States would step in and defend American companies.

00:31:07.000 Companies like Facebook and stuff.

00:31:09.000 And they would defend them.

00:31:10.000 The EU is chomping at the bit to regulate.

00:31:13.000 And they'll regulate these companies out of business if they have to.

00:31:17.000 Or if they can.

00:31:17.000 If they're allowed to.

00:31:19.000 The United States needs to step in and protect the companies that are American companies.

00:31:23.000 And the United States does have the ability to apply significant pressure to other countries and say, look, you can't tell American companies that they have to abide by your rules.

00:31:35.000 Well, this is what Tim Cook was saying when he was asked about donating money to Trump's inauguration campaign, is that people were saying, how could you possibly, you know, the head of Apple, a gay man, how could you donate money to Donald Trump's...

00:31:50.000 Donald Trump doesn't hate gay people, he just knows.

00:31:52.000 But they're ideologically bent, and they don't understand that.

00:31:55.000 And he said he's great for business, and he's great for our interests in other countries, and that's the point.

00:32:01.000 Yeah.

00:32:02.000 One of the things that Zuckerberg was saying when he was talking about the pressure that he gets, I think that the change in his attitude is less because of...

00:32:15.000 It's less because it's some kind of awakening, because he's referenced the talk that he gave at a college five years ago.

00:32:24.000 He referenced it multiple times.

00:32:25.000 He referenced it here, and some of the people on the board at Facebook were discussing with press, and they had mentioned that same talk.

00:32:34.000 And I think Mark Zuckerberg looks at this as an opportunity.

00:32:40.000 With Donald Trump coming in and noticing the kind of change in temperature of society, he's looking at it as an opportunity to take action and do something substantive at Facebook that he believes the United States will help apply.

00:32:58.000 Because Facebook is the biggest social media network globally still, if I understand correctly.

00:33:04.000 And so places like India, which has 1.5 billion people, there is Facebook in India, if I understand correctly.

00:33:11.000 There's no Facebook in China.

00:33:13.000 I do believe that Zuckerberg is looking at this through a business opportunity perspective, but I think that he's thinking, I now will have the support of the federal government.

00:33:26.000 The United States federal government to actually implement policies globally that will be positive for things like free speech and the free exchange of ideas.

00:33:38.000 And I think that he looks at it and says, I'll have the government backing me up as opposed to trying to fight all of these other governments.

00:33:46.000 And the United States federal government.

00:33:47.000 He's not going to be getting the pressure from the Biden administration anymore.

00:33:51.000 He's going to have an administration that isn't hostile to business at all.

00:33:56.000 If you listen to the All In podcast, are you familiar with that?

00:34:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:00.000 So I listen to that regularly.

00:34:01.000 And one of the things that they talk about all the time is how the Trump administration won't be hostile to business.

00:34:08.000 You listen to people talking about what's going to happen in California.

00:34:12.000 They're talking about the permits and how rebuilding is going to be an absolute nightmare.

00:34:15.000 Yes.

00:34:18.000 Hostile to business.

00:34:19.000 The left is just generally hostile to business.

00:34:21.000 And if you get a person in a position of authority like Donald Trump that isn't hostile to business, there can be great things done for the economy, for the people.

00:34:29.000 And again, I understand there's a lot of people right now that are kind of skeptical of, you know, number go up kind of ideas.

00:34:36.000 But number go up kind of ideas actually translates to human beings living better lives.

00:34:42.000 Yes, yes, human flourishing.

00:34:44.000 Yes.

00:34:44.000 That's what we want.

00:34:45.000 That's the goal.

00:34:46.000 So I understand, you know, you don't want to, you don't want to, I understand people that are like, look, the United States has to look out for the U.S. first.

00:34:52.000 I totally get it.

00:34:52.000 We've had a lot of conversations about the H-1B visas.

00:34:55.000 And I've learned a lot about the H-1B visas.

00:34:58.000 I was under the impression that the H-1B visas were actually the O-1 visas.

00:35:02.000 We're doing the job that the O-1 visas... 0.99

00:35:04.000 Yeah, they are not the O-1 visa.

00:35:05.000 They're not?

00:35:06.000 No.

00:35:06.000 I wasn't aware of that, but now that I'm aware of that, get rid of the H-1B visas.

00:35:11.000 They're rife with...

00:35:12.000 Would you mind drawing the distinction?

00:35:14.000 So an H-1B visa...

00:35:15.000 An O-1 visa is where they find someone that is exceptionally skilled at a job, and they say, we want to...

00:35:23.000 Pick you out of your country and bring you to America. 1.00

00:35:26.000 The way to think about it is like an Einstein visa.

00:35:29.000 So like the best of the best.

00:35:31.000 We need to win the space race.

00:35:33.000 Operation Paperclip.

00:35:34.000 Warner Von Braun.

00:35:35.000 Come on over.

00:35:37.000 I mean, look, they're not always the most...

00:35:39.000 Sometimes they're unsavory characters.

00:35:41.000 Lots of Germans back then.

00:35:43.000 The point is you're getting people that are really skilled at something.

00:35:47.000 Okay, actually, we've got this.

00:35:49.000 The O-1 visa...

00:35:51.000 While both the O-1 and H-1B visas allow skilled foreign workers to temporarily work in the U.S., the key difference is that an O-1 visa is for individuals with extraordinary ability in their field, like science, arts, business, or athletics, while an H-1B visa is for professionals in specialty occupations requiring a bachelor's degree, and it's typically employer-specific.

00:36:11.000 There is massive abuse of the H-1B visa.

00:36:14.000 I'll give you an example, like accountants.

00:36:16.000 Please.

00:36:17.000 Companies will go out.

00:36:19.000 And get H-1B visas for accountants.

00:36:22.000 We have plenty of people in this country that have accounting degrees.

00:36:25.000 The difference is that they're going to pay them far less money.

00:36:28.000 To bring them in on that H-1B visa, which then the American is not getting that job.

00:36:33.000 And so it just doesn't make any sense at all.

00:36:38.000 What countries are they looking at for those purposes?

00:36:41.000 Well, I mean, it's all over the world, but you get a lot from India, for instance.

00:36:44.000 It's just insane to me that Vivek is tweeting about this, getting all mad, and he's like, it just means that the accountants from India are just better at accounting.

00:36:54.000 Stop asking questions!

00:36:55.000 They're bringing them in so that they can replace the Americans who spent too much time watching Saved by the Bell group. 0.87

00:37:00.000 They did.

00:37:00.000 They idolized Zach Morris from Saved by the Bell.

00:37:04.000 I was an AC Slater guy.

00:37:05.000 And Corey from Boy Meets World.

00:37:06.000 And now they're lazy and they're not as good at accounting as Indians. 1.00

00:37:09.000 Everybody stand back because Mary's going to go off and it's going to be awesome. 0.95

00:37:11.000 I'm not going to go off anymore.

00:37:13.000 Come on! 0.61

00:37:15.000 Another thing about the H-1B visas is that because they're tied to a job, it gives the employer leverage over the people.

00:37:21.000 So if you lose the job, then you lose the visa.

00:37:24.000 So if you're a person that's here on an H-1B visa...

00:37:26.000 You're going to fall in line.

00:37:27.000 Except less pay.

00:37:28.000 They'll do all kinds of things.

00:37:29.000 So I'm perfectly fine.

00:37:31.000 You want to get rid of the H-1B visa? 0.99

00:37:33.000 You want to cut them down to a trickle?

00:37:36.000 Totally fine with it.

00:37:37.000 I mean, even just a small fix on it, it would just be, first you went out and sought Americans for these jobs, and then in the absence of being able to fill those positions, then you applied for H-1B visas.

00:37:49.000 Fun fact, they brought me into this company on an H-1B visa.

00:37:52.000 There you go.

00:37:54.000 From Michigan?

00:37:55.000 From Michigan.

00:37:56.000 From Minnesota.

00:37:58.000 You're close enough to Canada.

00:38:01.000 It is like another country up there.

00:38:03.000 It's cold all the time.

00:38:04.000 It's dark all the time.

00:38:05.000 I've been there many times.

00:38:07.000 But yeah, so if they're going to have the O-1 visas, that's totally fine in my opinion. 0.98

00:38:13.000 Yes.

00:38:15.000 But anyway, so...

00:38:17.000 Yeah, let's go to this story.

00:38:18.000 California fires, live updates, 18 arrests so far in Eaton Palisades fires.

00:38:24.000 It's looking like there is significant numbers of people committing arson.

00:38:29.000 We talked about this a little bit and had some video of what seemed to be homeless people starting fires.

00:38:37.000 Nearly a dozen people are believed to be dead, with the Los Angeles County Sheriff saying he expects that number to rise.

00:38:43.000 As devastating fires spread across Southern California amid drought.

00:38:46.000 ...

00:38:50.000 ...

00:38:51.000 Thousands of firefighters are battling at least five sprawling wildfires spread around the L.A. area.

00:38:56.000 The largest, the Palisades Fire in Pacific Palisade, has scorched over 20,000 acres, destroyed thousands of structures, and is 8% contained.

00:39:06.000 The Eaton Fire in Altonita now stands at more than 13,000 acres and 0% contained.

00:39:12.000 More than 150,000 people are under evacuation orders.

00:39:17.000 This is probably the biggest disaster since Katrina.

00:39:23.000 I mean, Katrina was an absolute train wreck of a mess in New Orleans, and this seems to be, you know, I think...

00:39:33.000 Worse than the hurricanes from last year?

00:39:36.000 Yeah.

00:39:37.000 I mean, there's a lot of damage in North Carolina, and I think that the government performed—it will shake out that the government performed significantly worse in North Carolina than here because of the people that are affected here.

00:39:54.000 I think the federal government's going to be throwing money at the millionaires that have lost their million-dollar homes and stuff.

00:40:01.000 But I do think that at the end of the day, you're probably going to see at least a few hundred dead.

00:40:08.000 And I don't know exactly how many people died in the hurricanes, but this has impacted a lot more people.

00:40:17.000 And again, they're predicting fire, winds picking back up.

00:40:23.000 In the next couple days, and with fires that are 8% or 0% contained, these fires have been raging for now three or four days, and they've had no ability to contain them.

00:40:34.000 That just means that there's going to be more and more destruction.

00:40:41.000 And look, I've been to LA a lot, and these areas, there's a lot of...

00:40:49.000 Shrubbery and dry stuff that can burn.

00:40:52.000 A lot of tweakers.

00:40:54.000 I try to be crass or insensitive.

00:40:55.000 I never try to be.

00:40:58.000 There are tweakers in the woods doing what tweakers do.

00:41:03.000 I had an instinct from the first time I saw someone on Twitter point this out that it might be the tweakers.

00:41:11.000 And someone in the comments was, like, really offended that they would even think that.

00:41:16.000 That's how you know it's true.

00:41:19.000 How dare you think that this was arson?

00:41:21.000 That's so insensitive that you would even say that.

00:41:24.000 That's how you know it's true.

00:41:24.000 It's climate change.

00:41:26.000 Shut your mouth. 0.99

00:41:27.000 And I was like, oh, yeah, it's arson. 0.98

00:41:30.000 It's definitely, yeah, that's how you know it's true.

00:41:33.000 I have said before, the Venn diagram of mentally ill and homeless is almost a circle.

00:41:41.000 And when you get mentally ill people, you know... 0.98

00:41:44.000 Get them in a dry, shrubby place, things spark.

00:41:48.000 Well, you know, the terrible thing on this, too, is so many people did not have home insurance because the insurance companies had dropped them because obviously they did their own kind of empirical study on it and said this place could catch on fire because the state of California stopped the control burns.

00:42:06.000 They stopped that a long time ago.

00:42:08.000 And there's all this debris like that happens anywhere that shrubs or plants or trees are growing that have built up over time.

00:42:17.000 And the government stepped in and said, we can't raise the rates.

00:42:20.000 They wouldn't allow them to.

00:42:21.000 So like, well, if you're not going to let us raise the rates to cover our risk, then we're just going to drop the policies entirely.

00:42:27.000 Price controls are a.

00:42:30.000 A form of socialism that always leads to terrible unintended consequences.

00:42:35.000 Don't forget, they were going to those fire hydrants and there was not any water in them at all because they'd been letting out this water.

00:42:41.000 President Trump talked about this to try to protect this specific fish that apparently they voted for in a referendum, I think that's right, like 2010. They voted for this referendum to protect this fish and so they didn't let the water out into the Pacific Ocean.

00:42:56.000 It's just, this is...

00:42:58.000 People think, you know, this kind of woke culture sits in its own kind of isolated instances.

00:43:05.000 It literally can kill people.

00:43:07.000 This is a great example of that.

00:43:10.000 And, I mean, it's tragic what's going on.

00:43:12.000 My mom's actually from Los Angeles. 0.93

00:43:14.000 I'm actually wearing a sweatshirt today.

00:43:16.000 Shout out to the local 250 steam fitters, pipe fitters.

00:43:19.000 My family started that union way back in the day in Los Angeles.

00:43:25.000 It kills people.

00:43:26.000 That's what's happening right now.

00:43:27.000 It's because government's not doing what they're supposed to do.

00:43:30.000 Don't forget, the mayor of Los Angeles was over in Ghana while all this is going on.

00:43:38.000 It's unbelievable.

00:43:38.000 I don't know if they saw – they had her trapped kind of like at an airport trying to ask her a question.

00:43:42.000 She didn't even answer.

00:43:44.000 No answer.

00:43:45.000 Karen Bass.

00:43:45.000 When they did whatever it was, the referendum for the fish and letting the water out, did they say that this could be a risk down the line, that there might not be water for the – I don't know that as a fact, but I highly doubt.

00:43:58.000 Like they didn't even bring it up?

00:44:00.000 No, but this is the problem with California.

00:44:03.000 The legislature does not legislate because they're cowards, and so what they've done is they've put everything out on referendum.

00:44:10.000 You all decide.

00:44:11.000 This is a republic.

00:44:12.000 This isn't a direct democracy.

00:44:14.000 They're running it like a direct democracy over in California, and at the end of the day, the deep state runs the place because everybody is on such short-term limits within the state legislature that the administrative staff that just runs it there, they make the call.

00:44:32.000 So then these citizens look at it and say, okay, well, they don't have any clue that they could be at risk.

00:44:38.000 You know, the people in the area are like, okay, we'll put ourselves at risk for this fish.

00:44:43.000 That's insane.

00:44:44.000 Yeah!

00:44:47.000 Well, I mean, it's kind of the same thing as, like, gun control, right?

00:44:50.000 Like, you legislate yourself out of the ability to defend yourself because they don't have the ability to think more than one or two steps ahead.

00:44:57.000 I mean, think about, okay, outside of the United States, Germany, right?

00:45:00.000 This war that's been going on with Ukraine and energy getting shut off there.

00:45:04.000 They shifted so quick and so rapidly to this green energy economy over in Germany.

00:45:11.000 And then...

00:45:13.000 A lot of people didn't know this, but they were still buying coal and natural gas from Ukraine.

00:45:18.000 They shut it off, and next thing they know, it's like, oh my god, my utility bill is 3x, 4x, 5x, what happened?

00:45:26.000 It's literally, I mean, these woke policies can end up killing people.

00:45:29.000 And back to...

00:45:30.000 Phil's point, it's not focused on human flourishing, human good, trying to have the individual be able to maximize their life and their true potential.

00:45:38.000 Yeah.

00:45:38.000 You mentioned Gavin Newsom and about the mismanagement.

00:45:43.000 He's calling for an investigation into wildfire water supply.

00:45:48.000 So, KTLA is reporting Los Angeles, California Governor Gavin Newsom has ordered an investigation into the Los Angeles Department of Water...

00:45:58.000 Of water of power amid reports of a loss of water pressure to fire hydrants and limited water resources in the wildfire zones.

00:46:06.000 In the letter addressed to LADWP, Chief Executive Officer and Chief Engineer Janice Quinonez and L.A. County Public Works Director Mark Pastrella Newsom wrote, Of loss of water pressure to some local fire hydrants during the fires and the reported unavailability of water supplies from the Santa Ynez Reservoir are deeply troubling to me and to the community.

00:46:33.000 We need answers to how this happened, Newsom continued, explaining his decision to order an independent investigation from state water and fire officials examining the cause of lost water supplies and pressure.

00:46:45.000 I am sure they will get to the bottom of it!

00:46:49.000 Look in the mirror.

00:46:50.000 This guy's been in state government forever.

00:46:55.000 One of the things that has been discussed regarding California a lot is single-party rule, right?

00:47:02.000 And this is one of the things that, again, we're going to kind of tilt back to the, or reference back to your talk about divine intervention.

00:47:09.000 One of the things that Elon Musk was concerned with is one-party rule in the United States.

00:47:15.000 These are the kind of terrible things that happen when you have one-party rule.

00:47:19.000 You look at Mexico, they've had a one-party rule in that country for decades, probably 50 years, right?

00:47:25.000 And because of it, the crime is rampant, the corruption is rampant, there's no serious...

00:47:34.000 There's no serious opposition party.

00:47:37.000 And that kind of single thought process only leads to corruption because everyone...

00:47:44.000 Go ahead.

00:47:44.000 And right to your point, though, about the single party rule, they've locked it in like that now because they have a jungle primary system.

00:47:53.000 So for those that aren't familiar, they have this primary where the top two vote getters go on to the general election.

00:48:01.000 And many times that just ends up being the top two Democrats running in a general election.

00:48:07.000 Just to remind everybody, primaries are their parties nominating somebody to run in a general election.

00:48:14.000 Yeah.

00:48:14.000 This jungle primary system is insane, and it locks in single-party rule in a state like California.

00:48:21.000 Yep.

00:48:22.000 So the – you guys got nothing?

00:48:27.000 So we were going to talk about the arsonist, right?

00:48:34.000 So there's video that we have from the New York Post here of a homeless man with a flamethrower, and he's busted on suspicion of arson near L.A.'s Kenneth Fire after residents detained him.

00:48:45.000 The residents are taking care of this.

00:48:46.000 The police aren't even doing it.

00:48:47.000 That's a terrible development.

00:48:50.000 Go ahead and play that.

00:48:52.000 Go ahead and play that.

00:49:03.000 But, I mean, I don't know for sure that this gentleman is mentally ill, but if you're starting fires when there's massive fires already happening...

00:49:18.000 One could surmise.

00:49:19.000 I would imagine that you probably...

00:49:24.000 Are a little on the nihilistic side probably feel like it's easier to avoid getting caught well, I'm maybe feel like if you do get caught there's not gonna be significant punishment either because Historically, California has only recently decided to start enforcing the law though.

00:49:40.000 There was a referendum that just went just past this past, you know, November where the the Public decided that they want to see people be punished for shoplifting and stuff.

00:49:54.000 Everyone's seen a bunch of...

00:49:55.000 So, like, it doesn't have to be $900 anymore?

00:49:57.000 I don't know when it goes into effect, but that was the referendum.

00:50:01.000 They want to see people actually getting punished.

00:50:03.000 And I actually saw a little clip from X of two girls in the back of a cruiser, and they were talking about what happened, and one of them was like, whoa, this is a felony? 0.89

00:50:12.000 What do you mean?

00:50:13.000 And she's like, yeah, they changed the law. 0.98

00:50:15.000 And she's like, oh, my God.

00:50:16.000 And they were like all bummed out because because they've made crime illegal.

00:50:20.000 There there is an argument to be made that says, hey, if you punish people for crime, it will deter people from committing crimes.

00:50:29.000 It is a deterrence.

00:50:30.000 It's been proven out.

00:50:32.000 I don't know, over the last several thousand years.

00:50:36.000 Which goes back to my argument about property rights, right?

00:50:39.000 Even if it's the small things like a couple thousand dollars in clothing or bags that they could grab from a department store and run out the door, if you don't actually prosecute that stuff, then people will feel like it's just acceptable to go ahead and steal, and then you'll get more and more of it.

00:50:57.000 Thankfully, for California's sake, they decided, hey, this is too much for us.

00:51:02.000 We're seeing businesses leave.

00:51:03.000 We're seeing people...

00:51:06.000 Just continue to ignore the law.

00:51:08.000 And small businesses are the businesses that get hurt the most.

00:51:11.000 The mom-and-pop stores, as if it's not hard enough to compete with Walmart.

00:51:15.000 Walmart, it doesn't really hurt Walmart much if someone goes in and they grab a boatload of clothes that they paid 35 cents a shirt for or whatever and run out the door.

00:51:24.000 Mom-and-pop store doesn't get the same kind of bulk discount and they can't absorb that kind of shrink.

00:51:29.000 Nope.

00:51:30.000 I mean, let's be honest.

00:51:32.000 What are the chances that the guy in that video is...

00:51:35.000 A citizen.

00:51:37.000 Low?

00:51:37.000 Very low?

00:51:38.000 And, like, what are the consequences for him if he's not?

00:51:41.000 Is he going to get deported?

00:51:43.000 Well, I mean, hopefully.

00:51:45.000 You know?

00:51:46.000 Again, this is why. 1.00

00:51:48.000 I mean, I don't like all this, like, jeering, like, oh, it's California, let them go to hell. 0.98

00:51:54.000 No, no, I don't like that. 0.97

00:51:56.000 These really edgy takes about how they deserve this, but in a lot of ways.

00:52:00.000 Their voting brought this upon themselves.

00:52:02.000 So we're talking about the rampant theft.

00:52:06.000 California's fight against rampant retail theft gets a boost in 2025. A series of laws enacted by the legislature and signed by Governor Gavin Newsom will take effect on January 1. So they have gone into effect now.

00:52:18.000 They include a new method for calculating the value of stolen goods to meet felony charges, lowering the threshold for police to make arrests for shoplifting and increasing sentences.

00:52:27.000 This is good.

00:52:29.000 And we want to see more of this.

00:52:31.000 And to Mary's point, like, look, man, California, I mean, we've all been to California, right?

00:52:38.000 I love California, but I couldn't live there because of the laws.

00:52:43.000 The awesome things about California are why the government gets to behave the way that it does, because people are like, man, the government sucks here.

00:52:52.000 Exactly.

00:52:53.000 They'll put up with it.

00:52:54.000 But then, like, when you're, you know, in Lakewood, In February, and you look over, and the mountains are snow-capped, and you're wearing shorts because it's 75 degrees.

00:53:05.000 You're like, man, this place is badass, man.

00:53:08.000 Because it's sick, man.

00:53:09.000 I've got a lot of friends that live out there.

00:53:12.000 I was out there a lot last year when we were recording the record.

00:53:15.000 And, you know...

00:53:17.000 It's hard to beat.

00:53:19.000 The weather's amazing.

00:53:21.000 In-N-Out Burger, man.

00:53:22.000 And that's why the homeless population is the size that it is out there, right?

00:53:26.000 Because it's literally the perfect place to live.

00:53:28.000 I mean, it's one of the big reasons, right?

00:53:29.000 On top of all the other things.

00:53:30.000 But it's that it is so nice to live there weather-wise that they can live homeless and not have to worry about, you know...

00:53:38.000 I mean, it's gorgeous.

00:53:41.000 So, like, one of the things that Cernovich says all the time is he's like, I don't want to let the left just keep California.

00:53:49.000 I want to fight to take it back.

00:53:51.000 And I would love to see sensible legislation come back to California because it's not like they don't have the tax base.

00:53:59.000 They've got...

00:54:00.000 They've got Hollywood, which isn't what it used to be, but they've got Silicon Valley.

00:54:04.000 So they've got plenty of money.

00:54:07.000 And they have the largest ports on the West Coast.

00:54:09.000 Yeah, it's the fifth largest economy in the world.

00:54:12.000 In the world, it is.

00:54:13.000 Even Hollywood in the last year now, Gavin Newsom had to introduce new tax credits to try to get them to bring production back to California because during the pandemic, they just started outsourcing everything to other countries, whether it's stuff for post-production, CGI, or even now shooting overseas because they get massive tax credits to films in places like the UK.

00:54:34.000 So there, you know, Hollywood being the huge part of the California economy that it is, thousands upon thousands of people are out of work and they're trying to now coax them back.

00:54:43.000 But once it's gone, it's very hard to draw them back.

00:54:47.000 Yeah, I imagine, you know, if you lived in California, like, you know, the Daily Wire's not going back to California.

00:54:53.000 Ben Shapiro's not going back.

00:54:54.000 And they moved not just the Daily Wire, all those families and stuff they left.

00:54:59.000 If you lived in California and you loved it there and you grew up there and it got so bad that you're like, I'm actually leaving my home and I'm going to go, you know, go to Texas or go to Florida, go to wherever.

00:55:12.000 And then, like, It's going to take an immense amount to get you to go back.

00:55:20.000 And the funny thing about California, though, in a not-too-distant past, they would periodically elect Republican governors.

00:55:27.000 They'd have enough.

00:55:29.000 People were like, I want my taxes lowered.

00:55:33.000 Periodically, you would see that.

00:55:34.000 There'd be Republican governors here and there. 0.98

00:55:37.000 That's impossible now.

00:55:39.000 But, maybe not...

00:55:41.000 In the future, I mean, if you look at Donald Trump's raw vote total there in California, it moved up.

00:55:47.000 I think it was close to 2 million or over 2 million additional votes he got in 2024 as opposed to 2020. So, not saying it's totally impossible, and we do hold congressional seats in California, in Southern California, Orange County.

00:56:02.000 You know, maybe slowly, but surely.

00:56:03.000 I mean, the sad thing is, too, the people that can't afford to move out of there.

00:56:07.000 Yeah.

00:56:07.000 I mean, that's the real tough part.

00:56:09.000 You can't afford to live there, and you can't afford to leave.

00:56:11.000 Yeah, can't afford to leave.

00:56:13.000 Because it's expensive out there.

00:56:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:17.000 Well, and to your point, they've made it so expensive building homes.

00:56:20.000 They put in, of course, another law.

00:56:22.000 That every new home construction must have solar panels on it, which then you layer that cost on top of it, environmental impact study, and all this other thing as it goes into construction, and that's how you get a $2 million home that's the size of the studio.

00:56:37.000 Yeah, I've got a friend that's got a nice house.

00:56:40.000 It's two stories.

00:56:41.000 It's not what you would consider...

00:56:44.000 By any stretch of the imagination, you wouldn't call it a mansion.

00:56:47.000 It's a little bit bigger than my mom's house in Western Mass, and I'm pretty sure that his lot is over a million dollars because it's in Lakewood, and it's a beautiful neighborhood, and the school there is good.

00:57:03.000 Sleepy kind of area.

00:57:04.000 And it's really nice.

00:57:06.000 I love going to visit him.

00:57:08.000 But again, it's expensive as hell.

00:57:11.000 And the prices are not going down.

00:57:14.000 And I wonder what kind of mess it's going to be like to try to build back the Palisades.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, it's it's there were.

00:57:23.000 I mean, some people whose homes are getting destroyed by these fires right now have been offered sums of money that are far less than what would they be offered for their homes.

00:57:33.000 They're getting offered the money for the land for after their homes are destroyed.

00:57:37.000 I did just want to add to the unfortunate thing is when people from California. 1.00

00:57:42.000 from California are moving to other states.

00:57:45.000 They keep ruining them.

00:57:47.000 So honestly, I feel like those states, like Texas, for instance, should have the ability to disincentivize them from moving there.

00:57:56.000 Would that be so wrong?

00:57:58.000 Well, we do that here in West Virginia.

00:58:00.000 I mean, it's happening here, too, because of, like, D.C. people coming for this area.

00:58:05.000 We do get, you know, there's a lot of people moving into the eastern panhandle of West Virginia.

00:58:09.000 But what I'll say is, tale of two Virginias here, Virginia versus West Virginia.

00:58:15.000 We are focused on economic growth here in West Virginia, just like Virginia was as well.

00:58:19.000 But we've instituted a lot of social policies and laws that are not favorable to the left, that they look at that stuff before they move somewhere.

00:58:30.000 And you go to a state like West Virginia where...

00:58:33.000 Abortion's outlawed.

00:58:34.000 We got constitutional carry.

00:58:36.000 We got campus carry.

00:58:37.000 You can carry a firearm on college campuses.

00:58:40.000 You can do those kinds of things.

00:58:42.000 Do you think people that are ostensibly on the left are people from...

00:58:46.000 States like California, do you think they look into the gun laws, or do they just think everybody has a gun on them all the time?

00:58:51.000 I think they do, and I mean, obviously, West Virginia's got a reputation, which, by the way, anybody listening, we have one of the lowest crime rates in the country.

00:58:59.000 That's not a coincidence.

00:59:01.000 Same thing with New Hampshire.

00:59:02.000 New Hampshire, everybody's got a gun, and the crime rate, the murder rate is lower than Canada.

00:59:08.000 There are more machine guns in New Hampshire than any other state in the union.

00:59:13.000 More legally owned machine guns in New Hampshire.

00:59:15.000 And the crime rate is...

00:59:16.000 They're all yours.

00:59:17.000 I wish.

00:59:18.000 No.

00:59:19.000 If I had Tim Pool money, they'd all be mine.

00:59:22.000 The ATF's listening now.

00:59:24.000 Disregard.

00:59:25.000 I mean, you're talking about like $35,000 for a machine gun because there's so few of them to start for anything worth buying.

00:59:33.000 Don't get me started on machine guns.

00:59:35.000 Anyway.

00:59:36.000 But yeah.

00:59:37.000 Yeah, so do you think that they...

00:59:39.000 I do.

00:59:40.000 I do think they look at that.

00:59:41.000 Now, I mean, obviously they'll gravitate towards college towns.

00:59:44.000 That's just what they do.

00:59:46.000 At least they'll have their own kind of like little microcosm.

00:59:49.000 Morgantown is pretty far left.

00:59:51.000 I'm born in Morgantown.

00:59:54.000 But the county is not, and the rest of the state is not.

00:59:57.000 I mean, Trump won the state with over 70% of the vote.

01:00:01.000 Is Shepherdstown like that?

01:00:02.000 Yes.

01:00:02.000 Yeah, I drove through Shepherdstown.

01:00:04.000 It was like being back in Minneapolis.

01:00:07.000 Yes, Shepherdstown is like that.

01:00:09.000 That's the one part of Jefferson County I lose.

01:00:14.000 So back to the situation in L.A. Nick Sorder is reporting, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass has just summoned...

01:00:22.000 L.A. Fire Department Chief Crowley to a closed-door meeting after the chief blasted her for cutting the fire budget. 0.96

01:00:29.000 Chief Crowley has been very vocal about the city failing its citizens.

01:00:33.000 Karen Bass is a tyrant who is trying to force the centers into silence. 1.00

01:00:37.000 Remove Karen Bass, that op-ed from Nick.

01:00:42.000 And we'll go ahead and play this bit.

01:00:43.000 Head-scratching moment in the firefight going on right now throughout the city of Los Angeles.

01:00:49.000 Sources told NBC4. Is Kristen Crowley the large woman that said, if your husband is in a position where I need to carry him out, he shouldn't have got himself there?

01:01:18.000 Is that the same woman?

01:01:19.000 Can you imagine being summoned into that?

01:01:21.000 I mean, it's like, why'd you let me cut the money from your department?

01:01:24.000 I know.

01:01:25.000 Explain this!

01:01:26.000 It wasn't Kristen Crowley.

01:01:29.000 But yeah, I mean, look, I think the cuts are probably a good...

01:01:36.000 They're a good thing to talk about, but I don't think that they're actually substantive.

01:01:40.000 If I understand correctly, the fire department's budget for all of L.A. County is like $800 million.

01:01:47.000 Pretty substantial. 1.00

01:01:48.000 Yeah, $27 million does matter, and especially when you hear stories about, oh, they're using X amount of dollars for this particular stupid program and X amount of dollars for this other stupid program, some leftist fart-smelling garbage. 0.99

01:02:06.000 It is worth talking about, but I don't actually think that, as much as I love to go ahead and dunk on the Democrats, I don't think that... 0.98

01:02:15.000 The cuts are the problem, I think, that the people in the mismanagement are the problem.

01:02:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:20.000 $800 million is a lot of money.

01:02:21.000 I didn't look into the details, but were there actually funds allocated to DEI? If I understand.

01:02:27.000 Well, I mean, I guarantee that the state spends plenty of money on DEI initiatives in any number of different fields.

01:02:36.000 In this field?

01:02:37.000 No, I think that was talked about, is that they had implemented DEI in the hiring process at the fire department.

01:02:45.000 Well, there was those articles written that said, like, firemen are largely white and Here's how we're going to fix that.

01:02:51.000 I just looked into it.

01:02:53.000 It says less than 5% of firefighters are women.

01:02:57.000 So we have to get that to 50%, obviously.

01:03:00.000 That is insane!

01:03:02.000 Did you know less than 5% of people in the NFL are women also?

01:03:06.000 I'm sure that, you know, this point has been hammered home on the panel in past nights this week.

01:03:14.000 But obviously there should be no women firefighters. 1.00

01:03:18.000 There should be no female cops. 1.00

01:03:20.000 There should be no women in the military, no women in the Secret Service. 1.00

01:03:24.000 Nancy Mace was here last night saying if the women if women can meet the standard, then they should be allowed and that there should be no change in the standard. 0.99

01:03:33.000 And while that she come out here, she was here last night.

01:03:35.000 Yeah, I missed last night's episode.

01:03:36.000 She was great.

01:03:38.000 If you get the standard, you should be in a zoo exhibit.

01:03:43.000 Yeah!

01:03:44.000 Come on! 0.61

01:03:46.000 I mean, what do you want there?

01:03:49.000 What is that?

01:03:51.000 Why do you want to be a firefighter so bad?

01:03:53.000 You mean you can't carry Phil out of here?

01:03:55.000 You should be on IRL more.

01:03:56.000 It's odd.

01:04:00.000 Clearly not a woman who has the proper levels of empathy. 1.00

01:04:05.000 The point that I'm making is I don't think that even if a woman can meet the standards, I don't think that women should be in these roles generally because I think that it's not that there aren't women that possibly could do it or it's not that there aren't women that possibly could be in these positions and perform the jobs well. 0.99

01:04:27.000 It's that Because women are going to Put the effort in to try, people are going to, invariably, they're going to say, well, she's trying. 0.95

01:04:37.000 And they're going to, you know, they're going to lower the standards.

01:04:40.000 Even if they say, well, we'll just give you a hand to get over the line and just give you a little bit extra.

01:04:46.000 And I think that that's something that's innate in humans because people, men defer to women. 0.97

01:04:53.000 Men are always deferential to women, whether we admit it or want, like it or not.

01:04:57.000 Psychologically, when these people are going into like...

01:05:01.000 saving people.

01:05:02.000 This is going to psychologically affect the male firefighters if there is a female firefighter with them going into this situation. 0.97

01:05:11.000 It's the same thing in combat.

01:05:12.000 Yes.

01:05:13.000 It Fs with their minds.

01:05:15.000 100%.

01:05:15.000 Because they feel like they need to save her.

01:05:18.000 Yep, 100%.

01:05:19.000 I mean, there are times where if a dude takes a round, if he's running across the street and there's dudes in cover and a dude takes a round and he's out there, you know you're not supposed to go out there because there's someone out there that's going to shoot you too.

01:05:31.000 And there's going to be two people laying in the street.

01:05:33.000 I just saw pictures from Fallujah of that exact thing happening.

01:05:37.000 One dude went out there to grab him. 0.99

01:05:39.000 That dude took a round. 0.86

01:05:40.000 Now there's two people down.

01:05:41.000 If it's a woman... 1.00

01:05:42.000 They're more likely to be like, we gotta get her, as opposed to being like, man, find whoever's shooting and take care of them before you go get the guy out.

01:05:50.000 Also, it's not just all these practical concerns, but women have... 1.00

01:05:54.000 Innate value, and they are not disposable.

01:05:58.000 They cannot be sent into these combat situations, life or death situations like this.

01:06:03.000 It's kind of lost on people because we're living in this post-birth control age.

01:06:08.000 But it's women's physiology that gives them this innate value, and we should not feel okay about sending them into these situations. 1.00

01:06:17.000 Women are magic. 1.00

01:06:17.000 They make babies. 1.00

01:06:18.000 You should not throw that away needlessly.

01:06:21.000 Even if they're super muscly and they fit the standard. 1.00

01:06:24.000 I mean, that's never going to happen anyway, but regardless, it's insane.

01:06:28.000 It's patently insane.

01:06:29.000 Let's move on to this story here.

01:06:31.000 The Supreme Court seems likely to uphold the TikTok ban as deadline nears.

01:06:37.000 Now, I know you guys don't care because TikTok bans you as soon as you even open the app.

01:06:43.000 So no one should have it.

01:06:44.000 Because we got banned, no one should have it.

01:06:48.000 No one should be able to enjoy TikTok since we got banned.

01:06:51.000 I've been banned at least once on TikTok.

01:06:53.000 I mean, selfishly, we grab a lot of content from TikTok, so I want TikTok to continue to exist.

01:06:58.000 Otherwise, my job will get more difficult.

01:07:00.000 Do you think that if TikTok goes away, do you think that people will just move over to Reels?

01:07:06.000 Because on Instagram, Reels is very similar, or is there something I'm missing?

01:07:11.000 Usually, the popular TikToks make it to Instagram a week later.

01:07:15.000 Functionally, it's the same tool, but Instagram Reels is derivative of TikTok for you pages.

01:07:23.000 And they migrate over, over time, so you're seeing a delayed version of what everyone on TikTok is seeing.

01:07:29.000 Then it becomes a Facebook video a week after that.

01:07:31.000 Yeah, and then somehow it ends up on X. It goes down the boomer line.

01:07:34.000 Then your mom's calling you because, what, did you see this?

01:07:36.000 Do you hear what they said?

01:07:37.000 Must be killer for the libs of TikTok. 0.96

01:07:40.000 Yeah, what are they gonna do?

01:07:41.000 Well, no, because, like, when Blue Skies, when people started trying to make Blue Sky a thing, there's, like, libs of Blue Sky, too.

01:07:48.000 There's definitely that Twitter account.

01:07:51.000 The Blue Sky's hilarious.

01:07:52.000 It's a lot of fun.

01:07:52.000 It's just Twitter from 2017. Well, I mean, kind of, kind of.

01:07:57.000 They're a little more histrionic now because they've lost a lot.

01:08:01.000 So the intensity level of the freakout is a little higher.

01:08:06.000 But one of the things that I noticed about TikTok that's actually good...

01:08:13.000 Is the way that they encourage creators.

01:08:16.000 So if you're doing uncontroversial stuff, like if you're making food videos or you're doing cooking videos or you're building whatever, like little houses out in your yard or birdhouses or whatever, they tell you in clear language how to upload and how to behave.

01:08:38.000 To get your account to the point where you're making money and where you're going to attract viewers.

01:08:45.000 And for some reason, Instagram still hides that like it's some magical power.

01:08:51.000 They don't want people to reach the followers.

01:08:54.000 It's far more curated and hands-on on any other platform, and that's what was so mind-blowing to me when I downloaded TikTok in the middle of the pandemic, is just seeing organic virality for the first time as an internet user.

01:09:09.000 I wasn't around when...

01:09:11.000 I mean, I started using the internet after everything.

01:09:14.000 You mean Vine was before your time?

01:09:15.000 What about Periscope?

01:09:16.000 I mean, I did have Vine when I was in middle school, but like...

01:09:21.000 I started using the internet after apps were a thing and everything was user experience optimized and you didn't have to find your own way and figure everything out for yourself and learn to code to make your MySpace layout and stuff.

01:09:37.000 So TikTok is just like really unique.

01:09:39.000 I don't know because I haven't been on it for years at this point.

01:09:42.000 But when I was using it, it was just perfect.

01:09:46.000 To be able to post something and have it actually reach people, and there's no other platform that actually works the same way.

01:09:53.000 I mean, maybe X is kind of like that, but you still have to pay to play.

01:09:58.000 Well, I mean, as far as X goes, like, I have a verified account and stuff, and so technically that cost me $8.

01:10:04.000 It doesn't take very much to make $8 back in posts if you're posting and stuff.

01:10:10.000 I mean, if you get subscribers, you can...

01:10:12.000 Get two subscribers and probably cover your $8 a month.

01:10:15.000 But when it comes to TikTok, one of the things that I've noticed is if you don't post regularly, then you don't reach anyone.

01:10:22.000 I mean, both Instagrams the same way.

01:10:24.000 You benefit from posting on a regular basis.

01:10:27.000 That's pretty much any platform.

01:10:29.000 That was normal with Meta.

01:10:33.000 Meta properties.

01:10:34.000 Facebook.

01:10:35.000 I used to have a Facebook page and they got to the point where I had like 60,000 or something like that before I got rid of it.

01:10:40.000 And it got to the point where like I would post something and like a couple hundred people would see it.

01:10:46.000 And I'm just like, why am I letting you get access to all of my data when you won't even like put the people that follow, you know, put my posts into the...

01:10:56.000 Feeds of people that follow me, especially seeing as, you know, I was doing it for the band and stuff, and I understand they're like, oh, you know, we want you to pay us to advertise your band.

01:11:05.000 It's like, well, I'm already the product, right?

01:11:07.000 You're already stealing all my info and stuff.

01:11:10.000 So I was...

01:11:11.000 Yeah, and I mean, back to the monetary incentive, Facebook, in terms of political campaigns, it's the best one.

01:11:19.000 Oh, really?

01:11:20.000 Okay.

01:11:20.000 I mean, it just is the best one in terms of...

01:11:23.000 Do you think it's because of user base?

01:11:25.000 I think it is part of that, right?

01:11:27.000 I mean, as we're pointing out here, right, boomers use it, they vote, right? 0.65

01:11:31.000 Is it, like, is it the specific type of content?

01:11:33.000 Meaning, are we talking, like, posts that are written, or are we talking video posts?

01:11:37.000 No, it's all of it, because you can be so targeted on your advertising, so you can literally drill all the way down, I mean, inside of, like, a neighborhood if you wanted to, right?

01:11:50.000 I mean, you can just drill really far, and this is before they started kind of Tapering some of that back.

01:11:57.000 But, I mean, you could, they'll skew for, and you can go in and say, well, I want somebody who's a 404 voter, conservative, lives in the zip code, likely to vote in midterm election, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:12:11.000 So you can really dial it in.

01:12:13.000 And so you can target ads very specific to a group of people that, I mean, Facebook, trends older, those folks are going to vote.

01:12:24.000 Instagram, which I guess TikTok would trend the youngest, but like Instagram, remember if you...

01:12:29.000 Last year before the election, they put that filter on Instagram where it says, show me less political content, and they automatically turned it on for everybody, and you had to go in there manually to turn it on.

01:12:41.000 Yeah.

01:12:42.000 He's like, I'm going back to Facebook right now.

01:12:43.000 I'm going to turn on that mode.

01:12:45.000 No, it's on Instagram.

01:12:47.000 It automatically makes you say, I want to see, like you have to turn it off.

01:12:52.000 Yeah, it should be a feature that you opt into, but that is a feature that I would opt into.

01:13:01.000 You mentioned Kevin O'Leary earlier, the Shark Tank guy.

01:13:05.000 He calls himself Mr. Wonderful.

01:13:07.000 He has this plan where he's going to make TikTok wonderful, and he's been making his bid to buy it out, buy out the U.S. assets of TikTok alongside Donald Trump or some other benefactors he's trying to crowdfund.

01:13:23.000 I'm not exactly sure what the plan is after today.

01:13:26.000 But that was like the rub on the whole thing is that the CCP controls TikTok.

01:13:32.000 Right, his main point is like this isn't about free speech.

01:13:34.000 This is about user privacy and U.S. citizens having control over their data.

01:13:40.000 And I don't see how an American entrepreneur owning the U.S. assets of TikTok would give American users any more control over their data.

01:13:51.000 I would just like to reiterate, as I brought this up on IRL before, this exchange from instant messages that Mark Zuckerberg sent back in 2004, early days of Facebook.

01:14:03.000 He said, yeah, so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard, just ask.

01:14:08.000 I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNs.

01:14:13.000 People just submitted it.

01:14:15.000 I don't know why.

01:14:16.000 They trust me. 1.00

01:14:18.000 Dumb fucks. 1.00

01:14:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:20.000 That's what he still thinks of you, and you can guess anyone who controls a social media platform, that's what they think of you and the control you have over your data.

01:14:29.000 The fact that it's another American citizen who has control over your data makes no difference.

01:14:34.000 They will just sell it to China anyways.

01:14:36.000 Yes.

01:14:36.000 Well, I'm not sure they might.

01:14:39.000 But what it seems like to me is...

01:14:44.000 China has talked about shutting down TikTok, or ByteDance has talked about shutting down TikTok before they'll sell it, which leads me to believe that it's actually an asset for espionage, right?

01:14:58.000 So you're not allowed to bring a phone that has TikTok into any government building or installation, if I understand correctly, right?

01:15:06.000 But if Riley's kid has TikTok on his phone, that might be something that the CCP looks at as valid.

01:15:16.000 Oh, yeah, of course they do.

01:15:18.000 Anybody that works at SpaceX, their family has TikTok on their phone.

01:15:25.000 That might be something that's valuable.

01:15:27.000 Anybody that works at Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, anyone that works at any of the...

01:15:35.000 At Apple or at IBM or any of these companies that are, you know, they're definitely military contractors.

01:15:45.000 Whether we like it or not, Google is a military contractor.

01:15:48.000 Anybody that works at Google that has TikTok on their phone, that becomes an asset for China.

01:15:52.000 So the fact that China doesn't want to sell it, that they'll shut it down, leads me to believe that it's not about freedom of speech.

01:16:00.000 Or about the privacy of people.

01:16:02.000 It's about a foreign government having basically a spy ring in the United States being operated by 14-year-olds that are the children of... 0.51

01:16:21.000 Yeah, I mean, they're building data files on every individual in the United States that has TikTok.

01:16:28.000 And I mean, you'll see they'll push certain content to see if they can...

01:16:32.000 Trigger certain types of emotional responses, making people sad, making people happy, you know, things like that.

01:16:37.000 So they're kind of testing us to figure out, well, if we were going to do some disinformation campaign in the United States, what would hit, what would not, what we could do to try to spin.

01:16:48.000 So they're garnering and building a massive...

01:16:53.000 It's a database of information on the American people, and that's what it's about.

01:16:57.000 I know a lot of people like TikTok.

01:16:59.000 I'm for the TikTok ban, just to be clear.

01:17:02.000 But it's because it is dangerous.

01:17:05.000 It's dangerous for us in the long run.

01:17:08.000 It is reasonable to think if China decides or realizes that the Secretary of State's nephew has TikTok.

01:17:20.000 And then they go ahead and fill his feed with stuff to make him depressed and try to do things that will upset the family to make them stressed out more.

01:17:30.000 That's something that's unquestionably real that they would attempt to do.

01:17:34.000 If they can attack people's personal lives in the hopes that there are positive results for them in negotiations or in decision-making, I mean, it doesn't take very much for them to say, Make sure that this particular person's algorithm has a little bit of a change and is doing what we can to make them depressed.

01:17:58.000 And it will know how to make them depressed.

01:18:02.000 It'll know all the things to show them and in just the right quantities so that way they're not going to be like, oh my god, my TikTok just for no reason is just showing me nothing but murder all day long.

01:18:16.000 It'll do it in a way that's subtle.

01:18:18.000 These kind of psychological operations are not beyond the ability of sophisticated states like China.

01:18:27.000 That's right.

01:18:28.000 Riley, are you saying you're not in favor of a buyout from a U.S. backer either?

01:18:33.000 No.

01:18:33.000 You're just pro the ban.

01:18:35.000 I'm pro the ban.

01:18:36.000 Why is that?

01:18:37.000 Well, one, you wouldn't have totality of control by any U.S. citizen of TikTok.

01:18:45.000 Communist Party of China would still have ownership of the data and the rest of those things, which I think is dangerous for us here in this country.

01:18:57.000 There's been a lot of research on this by intelligence agencies and classified information on how detrimental this entire enterprise is for us.

01:19:12.000 Do you mean psychologically?

01:19:16.000 Yes, psychologically, but then also to Phil's point, I mean, so what if, you know, somebody's kid, I don't know, Secretary of State is on TikTok and all these apps have location devices and they happen to know where that individual is.

01:19:31.000 So you mean actual, like, spy rings and things like that?

01:19:33.000 Yeah.

01:19:34.000 So because Johnny Governor can't control his nephew, everybody else has to lose out on TikTok.

01:19:40.000 That's right.

01:19:40.000 I mean, to be honest with you, the idea of, you know, the The sonar thing that they did in The Dark Knight or whatever, that's completely reasonable to think that they can do now.

01:19:51.000 Not back when that movie came out, there was no way those phones were holding all that data.

01:19:55.000 Fair enough.

01:19:56.000 But nowadays, that kind of stuff is something that I wouldn't put past them.

01:20:01.000 And anything that's been made in China, anything that was built in China, they're all compromised. 0.97

01:20:07.000 Your phone is compromised.

01:20:09.000 It's just a matter of...

01:20:11.000 Can they isolate you, and are you interesting?

01:20:13.000 I'm not interesting, you know, because I'm just a guy that talks on the internet and yells at me.

01:20:17.000 How much of our computer equipment comes from China?

01:20:21.000 It's all compromised.

01:20:22.000 Exactly.

01:20:23.000 So everything's compromised, but we're just focusing in on TikTok specifically.

01:20:27.000 Yeah, I mean, go back and look at, you all remember Huawei?

01:20:31.000 So this is the Chinese telecom company Huawei, and it was...

01:20:36.000 Obviously made public now, found that they got contracts in Europe.

01:20:41.000 They had some in the United States, but the European example is a good one, where they had gotten a contract with governments in Europe, and all those phones were tapped.

01:20:52.000 All of them.

01:20:54.000 And so Huawei was able to record conversations of thousands of individuals working in the government through these Huawei contracts.

01:21:03.000 I mean, this is...

01:21:04.000 That's what China does. 0.99

01:21:06.000 I mean, look, man, Israel blew up the crotches of everybody in Hamas. 0.99

01:21:10.000 I was going to say, but I didn't want to be vulgar.

01:21:13.000 I mean, when China saw that, they were taking notes.

01:21:16.000 Yeah, I mean, the truth is, it's not like these ideas are actually that far-fetched. 0.76

01:21:22.000 Maybe before the exploding penises in Gaza, you could say, oh...

01:21:30.000 That's kind of far-fetched and stuff. 0.96

01:21:31.000 But after you see a bunch of dudes junk get blown up, it's like, well, maybe they can kind of look into everybody's phone and stuff.

01:21:41.000 At the very least, it made it more real.

01:21:43.000 Was the date they chose to uphold the ban specifically designed to prevent Trump from trying to stop it unilaterally?

01:21:51.000 Maybe.

01:21:51.000 I don't know that.

01:21:52.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:21:53.000 Because it's the day before he takes office.

01:21:57.000 So that just seems weird.

01:21:59.000 And that would seem to make sense to me.

01:22:01.000 I just don't know it as a fact.

01:22:02.000 And I know, I think Vivek came out against the ban on TikTok as well.

01:22:08.000 But yeah, look, everybody's got a different opinion on it.

01:22:12.000 It is funny that considering how much Biden and the Democrats love to court the TikTok audience, meaning influencers who are specifically using the platform, to then get stabbed in the back by him.

01:22:25.000 On that to start to destroy their, you know, one of their forms of income.

01:22:29.000 So we're going to take a hard turn here.

01:22:31.000 We got an update from California.

01:22:34.000 The Daily Mail is reporting, Daily Mail and a few other places, it's all over X now with conflicting reports, but the Daily Mail is reporting breaking news.

01:22:42.000 L.A. Fire Chief is dismissed by Mayor Karen Bass after lashing out over department cuts as deadly blazes devastate city.

01:22:50.000 Los Angeles Fire Department Kristen...

01:22:53.000 Crowley, Los Angeles Fire Department Chief Kristen Crowley, was fired by Mayor Karen Bass on Friday afternoon.

01:22:59.000 A source close to the chief's office told DailyMail.com.

01:23:03.000 Apparently she was summoned.

01:23:05.000 She was in the room for just a handful of minutes and then was...

01:23:11.000 Well, left.

01:23:12.000 And everyone is being somewhat...

01:23:15.000 They're not being clear about what actually happened.

01:23:19.000 Some people are saying that she's fired.

01:23:21.000 A statement from the mayor's office says, The mayor and chief met.

01:23:26.000 The priority remains fighting these fires and protecting Angelino.

01:23:29.000 So that's not clear as to if she was or was not fired.

01:23:35.000 I'm not sure that it matters if she's fired, and if she did get fired, it was an ego thing, which kind of makes me think this is...

01:23:43.000 I mean, even if she was, it's not going to be anything substantive, and it's all about catfighting, because they're both bad at their jobs.

01:23:52.000 Get it?

01:23:52.000 Because they're women, he's saying.

01:23:55.000 Not really outrunning those tyrant claims, Karen.

01:23:59.000 No, that's true.

01:24:00.000 She's not.

01:24:01.000 But, you know, again...

01:24:03.000 I don't think that this actually matters.

01:24:05.000 I think that this – it speaks to the fact that there's incompetence abound in Los Angeles in the fire department and in the – See, if it was satire in a movie, they'd be in a room in an office and there'd be literally flames behind them out the window as she's firing her.

01:24:25.000 There might have been.

01:24:26.000 I think Gavin Newsom had a press conference like that.

01:24:28.000 Did you see that where he was on the scene and things were just burning behind him?

01:24:33.000 Nothing's wrong.

01:24:33.000 There is one.

01:24:34.000 I don't have a link to it, but there is one.

01:24:36.000 Sir, you gotta find that.

01:24:37.000 Gavin is speaking and a building, like the roof collapses as he's talking.

01:24:43.000 The roof collapses behind him as he's talking.

01:24:45.000 It's literally the it's fine meme.

01:24:47.000 It's great.

01:24:47.000 I wanted him to stand up there and just be like, the arsonist had oddly shaped feet.

01:24:54.000 Yes, it is the it's fine meme, the Leslie Nielsen, it's fine, it's fine, just fire going all around.

01:25:01.000 But yeah, I mean, the incompetence just doesn't stop.

01:25:06.000 I mean, if the mayor had any sense...

01:25:10.000 She would have waited until after this was done to fire the fire chief because it does just point out the catty infighting. 1.00

01:25:20.000 Going on.

01:25:22.000 I feel like you're making very intense eye contact with me right now.

01:25:25.000 A competent male politician would have waited to fire.

01:25:29.000 I'm aware that you would never...

01:25:31.000 You know what I'm saying, Mary?

01:25:32.000 Come on, jump in here. 1.00

01:25:33.000 You would never make the mistake of thinking that you should be in the fire department.

01:25:38.000 I mean, she's doing failed politics 101, which is, we're going to go put some heads on some spikes. 1.00

01:25:44.000 It's not me.

01:25:45.000 It's these people.

01:25:47.000 I mean, it's...

01:25:49.000 I mean, what did Gavin Newsom say?

01:25:51.000 Like, the locals will have to figure it out?

01:25:53.000 Yeah, I mean, that's...

01:25:54.000 The locals have to figure it out, and they can't even not, you know, bicker at each other. 0.74

01:26:01.000 It's ridiculous, and it's offensive to the people that have to live there. 0.96

01:26:08.000 I think this is actually...

01:26:09.000 Serge, I think, is pulling up the clip, because I believe it was the...

01:26:17.000 I think this was a CNN clip.

01:26:19.000 What's funny is Gavin Newsom's wife was an actress and I just last night watched an episode of a television show where she plays the wife of a corrupt politician who then gets arrested at the end.

01:26:34.000 Very good.

01:26:36.000 That's never going to happen in action.

01:26:39.000 Art imitating life.

01:26:41.000 Jennifer Newsom and Zelensky should film a rom-com. 0.99

01:26:44.000 They should.

01:26:44.000 It was an old episode of this show called The Glades.

01:26:47.000 And yeah, her husband played a corrupt... 0.94

01:26:49.000 I think he's a corrupt... 0.98

01:26:50.000 It's not a governor. 0.93

01:26:51.000 It might have been...

01:26:52.000 No, it actually might have been a governor.

01:26:55.000 She's like, I'm the brains behind this operation.

01:26:58.000 My family's the one with all the money.

01:26:59.000 And then she ends up being guilty at the end.

01:27:03.000 What about predictive programming?

01:27:06.000 What?

01:27:07.000 You know, life imitating art.

01:27:09.000 Oh, yes.

01:27:09.000 All right.

01:27:12.000 So...

01:27:13.000 What do you got John Fetterman up for?

01:27:16.000 Pope of Greenland.

01:27:19.000 John Fetterman saying that he should be the Pope of Greenland.

01:27:21.000 What makes you the Pope of Greenland specifically?

01:27:23.000 What makes you the Pope of any specific country?

01:27:26.000 It's not being Catholic, is it? 0.95

01:27:27.000 The whole point is that he's the Pope of the whole world.

01:27:30.000 The universal church.

01:27:32.000 Yes.

01:27:32.000 Okay.

01:27:32.000 Universal church, there's a Pope.

01:27:34.000 Kind of oxymoronic.

01:27:36.000 The current Pope is less than Catholic, I think.

01:27:40.000 He doesn't...

01:27:41.000 Don't counter-signal Papa Francis.

01:27:45.000 We're not even going to get into that discussion.

01:27:47.000 Oh, come on, Mary. 1.00

01:27:49.000 I'm trying to get you riled up.

01:27:51.000 I see.

01:27:52.000 I see that you're doing that.

01:27:53.000 I'm chilling over here.

01:27:57.000 So, yeah, I mean, I don't think that there's anything positive to be said about Karen Bass firing the chief, and I think that it probably speaks to the incompetence going on.

01:28:11.000 I'll say one thing about her is many years back, I had worked on the Hill.

01:28:18.000 I was a congressional staff member, and I was there when she was there.

01:28:22.000 She was one of the most unimpressive members of Congress, and that's saying a lot, that I had ever come across.

01:28:30.000 Karen Bass?

01:28:30.000 Yes.

01:28:30.000 Would Rick Caruso have been a better choice?

01:28:34.000 I think anybody would be a better choice at this point.

01:28:37.000 That was an interesting thing to follow, because we followed the way celebrities were kind of going into different corners about whether to vote for Karen Bass or Rick Caruso.

01:28:47.000 Yeah, I know nothing about Rick Caruso, but...

01:28:50.000 That Katy Perry voted for him and that people were mad at her for doing so.

01:28:54.000 But when you say she was unimpressive, what's your evidence?

01:28:59.000 Other than this fire?

01:29:01.000 Yeah, from back then.

01:29:03.000 She was very, I mean, she had no really originating thoughts or insights as it relates to any public policy whatsoever.

01:29:13.000 Really kind of took cues from...

01:29:16.000 Whatever the kind of left-wing narrative was on any given issue, she was not necessarily a kind person, I would say.

01:29:24.000 Comola, mini-me.

01:29:26.000 Yeah, yeah, probably 1.0.

01:29:28.000 I mean, all of that sounds par for the course for most politicians.

01:29:32.000 Yeah, I guess for it to stick out in my mind is interesting.

01:29:36.000 Back when you still had a twinkle in your eye.

01:29:39.000 Yeah, I was like, I'm going to change this place.

01:29:42.000 You can still get Fetterman 2028, though, guys.

01:29:44.000 Let's go.

01:29:45.000 Still gonna happen.

01:29:47.000 Fetterman, getting more bass.

01:29:48.000 I'm for it.

01:29:50.000 Fetterman's hilarious.

01:29:51.000 Alright, so we are gonna go to Super Chats.

01:29:54.000 And let's see, we'll start out with here with, was it Shaky Owens?

01:30:00.000 Can you make this bigger?

01:30:03.000 The font?

01:30:04.000 What happened to the office of the president-elect?

01:30:07.000 That only works when there is an old man that actually shouldn't be the president that is the president-elect. 0.90

01:30:15.000 I forgot about that, the office of the president-elect.

01:30:17.000 They were serious about it, too.

01:30:19.000 They were like, this is a serious thing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:30:23.000 They're like, if Trump gets to create Space Force, we're going to make the office of the president-elect.

01:30:30.000 Biden's on the last day of school.

01:30:33.000 Right now.

01:30:33.000 He's just coasting.

01:30:34.000 I think that was the day after he was elected.

01:30:36.000 They're just doing coloring pages at this point.

01:30:39.000 They stopped giving him the CIA superdrugs, I'm sure.

01:30:44.000 From The Emperor's Champion, do states like New York and California who are so mismanaged and corrupt deserve to retain their statehood?

01:30:54.000 Should they be reverted to territories and only readmitted after they have been cleaned up?

01:31:00.000 Nah, well, we can't eject.

01:31:02.000 Well, I guess you can, necessarily.

01:31:04.000 But no, I don't think we should eject states from the United States.

01:31:07.000 What's the process of ejecting states, do you know?

01:31:09.000 I don't.

01:31:10.000 I don't.

01:31:11.000 Obviously, we've had states...

01:31:13.000 So states can't leave if they want to.

01:31:15.000 Well, we've had them secede before.

01:31:17.000 Not successfully.

01:31:18.000 Yeah, not successfully.

01:31:20.000 And we've had them divide before, successfully.

01:31:22.000 That's how we live in this great state of West Virginia.

01:31:25.000 That was right after the Civil War, right?

01:31:27.000 Right when it kicked off, actually.

01:31:29.000 Right at the beginning of the Civil War?

01:31:30.000 Yep.

01:31:31.000 Okay.

01:31:32.000 1863. Let's see.

01:31:34.000 Just Cause I'm Free says, so people know Phil has Tim locked up in the basement.

01:31:40.000 Hello, Mary and Brett, and congratulations on the play button for PCC. Phil should take off the hat so people don't confuse him with Tim.

01:31:47.000 Does this look like a beanie, homie? 1.00

01:31:49.000 Different hat.

01:31:50.000 It's just the same color.

01:31:51.000 Yeah, we just passed 320,000 subscribers, but just got our 100,000.

01:31:56.000 YouTube finally got around to giving us the 100k play button.

01:32:00.000 Congratulations.

01:32:02.000 India held up the All That Remains one for like two years. 0.95

01:32:05.000 It's H1B's fault.

01:32:08.000 I had to like file a claim with YouTube to get the play button.

01:32:14.000 And it's Jasmine from YouTube support.

01:32:17.000 And I was like, I know this is some AI chat.

01:32:19.000 Jasmine, if you're watching, shout out.

01:32:21.000 You're a real one.

01:32:22.000 Thank you.

01:32:23.000 But I put in the application and they're like, well, you want to apply.

01:32:28.000 Here, we have to look through your application and see if you qualify.

01:32:32.000 And they said, it could take two to four months.

01:32:34.000 I'm like, don't you just look at the subscriber count and then send it to me?

01:32:38.000 No, it took three and a half months for them to go through it.

01:32:42.000 Are they verifying that the subscribers aren't bots or something?

01:32:46.000 No, I don't know what it was.

01:32:47.000 But Jasmine was very nice.

01:32:48.000 I think that's what they're doing.

01:32:49.000 We're 220,000 subscribers away from that milestone now.

01:32:54.000 A million soon.

01:32:56.000 It seems like just yesterday you guys were at 100,000.

01:32:58.000 That was like six months ago you were at 100,000, right?

01:33:03.000 I guess we're just really popular.

01:33:05.000 Yeah, I guess people just really like us.

01:33:06.000 Yeah.

01:33:08.000 Well, thank you, Jasmine.

01:33:10.000 We like the play button.

01:33:11.000 Thank you, Jasmine.

01:33:11.000 Thank you, YouTube, for giving us the validation that we so desperately need.

01:33:16.000 Takti Pilati.

01:33:17.000 Hi, Takti Pilati.

01:33:18.000 Hey, Phil.

01:33:18.000 Great to see you and my congressman in PCC tonight.

01:33:21.000 Any chance Riley can introduce a bill to ban...

01:33:25.000 Plastic bag fees at grocery stores.

01:33:28.000 You know, those are states that do that, and I would be honored to be the person to try to ban that federally.

01:33:35.000 It's the most annoying thing in the world when I'm not in the great state of West Virginia, and I'm down in D.C. as I was this week, and I'm like, could I get a bag like six or five cents?

01:33:44.000 I'm like, what?

01:33:45.000 Maryland is really bad with it too now.

01:33:49.000 I feel like that's less of an irritation than when people are just like, can you give me a tip when you went and you got the thing that you wanted in the store?

01:34:01.000 You brought it to the...

01:34:03.000 Table, and you're putting it out, and they're like, would you like to give us a tip?

01:34:06.000 No, I don't want to pay you extra.

01:34:08.000 And then it's built in when you pay for it at the counter.

01:34:10.000 It's like, here's the tip, but I'm just picking it up at this window.

01:34:14.000 You just mean tip culture in general?

01:34:16.000 I don't mind giving...

01:34:18.000 When it comes to tipping a server or something like that, I tend to over-tip.

01:34:24.000 I was at a liquor store recently, and they turned an iPad around on me.

01:34:27.000 Bro!

01:34:28.000 Really?

01:34:30.000 What were you buying?

01:34:32.000 Soju.

01:34:33.000 Soju.

01:34:33.000 The worst is we were at like a Red Wings game over the holiday break and they asked for a tip at the arena where it's already like 10,000% more expensive than anywhere else.

01:34:44.000 Like the concession stand?

01:34:44.000 Yeah, the concession stand.

01:34:45.000 Concession stand, yeah.

01:34:46.000 Were they, like, heating up nachos?

01:34:48.000 It was pizza.

01:34:49.000 Well, it's, no, it's the Red Wings, so it's at Little Caesars, so they have, like, multiple Little Caesars booths there.

01:34:57.000 So it's like, so I already pay too much because it's not a $5 pizza anymore, and you're paying way more than that at a stadium because they're, like, $8 at a regular location now, so you're paying, like, $15 there, and now you want me to tip you?

01:35:09.000 They're putting these employees in such an uncomfortable position.

01:35:11.000 And that guy's not getting a tip.

01:35:12.000 They're like, it's gonna ask you a question, no pressure.

01:35:16.000 I don't want to be them in that moment.

01:35:18.000 Do you feel like they're like, no pressure?

01:35:19.000 Because I feel like it's going to ask you a question.

01:35:21.000 Yeah, they're not going to be happy.

01:35:23.000 Most of the time, they're like, no pressure.

01:35:26.000 They say that, and I feel bad for them that they're put in this position.

01:35:29.000 I feel like I've got pressure on me.

01:35:31.000 It's like...

01:35:31.000 It's going to ask you a question.

01:35:33.000 I'm like, oh.

01:35:33.000 Okay, like, I don't know if, like, in this case, like, is he logged in to, like, a specific account on there that's got, like, his pin in there so everybody who tips in there, it goes directly to him?

01:35:43.000 Or does it just go to the coffers of the stadium?

01:35:46.000 Well, service industry, you'll be happy to hear Donald Trump will eliminate tax on tips.

01:35:52.000 That's one of his things he wants to put in the reconciliation package.

01:35:56.000 I would love to see it.

01:35:57.000 Yep.

01:35:57.000 I'd love to see it.

01:35:58.000 Actually, I want to ask you, do you think that it's better to go with one gigantic omnibus that is guaranteed to have a whole bunch of crap you don't like, but actually get all the stuff you want?

01:36:10.000 Or do you think it'd be better to have multiple bills?

01:36:13.000 I think, to quote Donald Trump, one beautiful bill.

01:36:16.000 One beautiful bill. 1.00

01:36:18.000 But it's going to have so much garbage. 0.96

01:36:19.000 It can't be beautiful. 0.98

01:36:20.000 I know that that's his...

01:36:21.000 But there are restrictions, though, because you're doing it through the reconciliation process, right?

01:36:27.000 There's only so much you can put in that the Senate parliamentarian is going to accept.

01:36:33.000 So it has to do with revenue-generating measures, and it has been ruled previously.

01:36:39.000 This can be things like immigration.

01:36:41.000 That can be energy.

01:36:43.000 That can be, obviously, taxes.

01:36:47.000 Cutting federal government.

01:36:49.000 Like, in this reconciliation package, we're going to try to cut.

01:36:52.000 It will be in there.

01:36:54.000 Mandatory spending.

01:36:55.000 Just, not to get on soapbox here, but mandatory spending in your budget, by the way, United States of America, that's 75% of all the money that's spent.

01:37:05.000 We fight over these.

01:37:07.000 Funding bills that go through Appropriations Committee, that's only 25% of the money to spend.

01:37:11.000 People love to make us think about the military budget and stuff like that.

01:37:15.000 The military budget doesn't even come close to being the problem that we're facing.

01:37:19.000 Mandatory spending, unfunded liabilities, the entitlement programs, those are the things that are going to kill the entire economy.

01:37:27.000 The discretionary spending is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the mandatory spending.

01:37:33.000 It's a drop in the bucket.

01:37:35.000 Let's say Medicaid to defense spending.

01:37:39.000 You're talking trillions versus billions.

01:37:41.000 It's a huge, huge difference that you're talking about.

01:37:45.000 All right.

01:37:46.000 What do we got here?

01:37:48.000 Superchats.

01:37:50.000 What is this one?

01:37:53.000 Broman992 says, Honestly, I'd rather have the left saying Trump is a convicted felon than have them screaming about how he only got off because the Supreme Court is rigged.

01:38:03.000 Honestly, I kind of agree with that because they're going to scream about, you know, whatever.

01:38:08.000 And if they did have the narrative that it was the Supreme Court that helped Donald Trump.

01:38:14.000 Like the guys he appointed.

01:38:16.000 Yeah, then you might, they might actually be able to fundraise off that narrative and possibly.

01:38:25.000 I think I agree with that.

01:38:46.000 Alright, let's see.

01:38:50.000 Kane Abel says, do not support Zuckerberg.

01:38:54.000 The story why he changed was there was a light and he decided to change.

01:38:59.000 The light being Trump being declared on TV as president of the U.S. and Zuck had no choice.

01:39:05.000 I don't know that that's actually the case.

01:39:08.000 And I don't think that him deciding that he is going to loosen up on the restrictions on Facebook or Meta properties.

01:39:18.000 I don't think that that's I don't think you have to trust him for that.

01:39:21.000 I mean, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by trust, because I don't really I don't use a lot of meta properties.

01:39:27.000 Anyways, I have an Instagram page, but that's really about it.

01:39:30.000 But I'm not sure what I'm not sure what you mean by, you know, like we talked about.

01:39:35.000 I think it was like a culmination of factors, right?

01:39:37.000 It's financial incentives.

01:39:38.000 Obviously, Trump's part of that.

01:39:40.000 But I don't think it's just one thing specifically in like trust.

01:39:44.000 Yeah.

01:39:44.000 You know, do you trust Zuckerberg?

01:39:47.000 Me?

01:39:48.000 No.

01:39:49.000 Oh, of course not.

01:39:50.000 We already know how I feel about that.

01:39:54.000 Mary wants to go to Hawaii and find him and beat him up. 0.99

01:39:57.000 I did not say that.

01:39:59.000 I did not say that.

01:40:01.000 I mean, you shouldn't trust any of the big business CEOs, but what you should do is you want to know that the businesses they're running have the financial incentive to act in a way in which benefits you.

01:40:13.000 Right?

01:40:14.000 That's the whole point of the capitalist system is you encourage them because you can't expect them to have the same morality as you.

01:40:20.000 Business doesn't run on morality.

01:40:22.000 And so does it really matter if I trust him?

01:40:24.000 No.

01:40:25.000 You go based off actions and then just go from there.

01:40:28.000 I don't know.

01:40:29.000 Wise words from Brett.

01:40:32.000 It's the first and only time that's ever going to get said.

01:40:35.000 So backhanded, Phil.

01:40:37.000 So catty. 0.96

01:40:38.000 And Phil's calling women catty. 0.93

01:40:41.000 I know.

01:40:41.000 My goodness.

01:40:42.000 It's creepy how on the same wavelength you two are.

01:40:45.000 Yeah.

01:40:46.000 You guys can finish each other's sentences.

01:40:50.000 Konakashi says, What do you think would happen if Trump put a hold...

01:40:54.000 Or cancels any federal aid or future funding unless California ends its sanctuary citizen status, or sanctuary city status.

01:41:04.000 I don't think that's, I don't think it's possible, is it?

01:41:07.000 It would be Congress that have to.

01:41:09.000 And even if it was, it'd be bad optics.

01:41:11.000 Yeah, I mean, look, you could, Congress can proviso any federal.

01:41:18.000 You can do that on any of that.

01:41:20.000 Through executive action, that was talked about in the last administration, last time Trump was president, if I remember correctly.

01:41:28.000 You could do that, but the way they're going to go about this is that we're going to have a massive deportation operation that's going to take place here, and they're going to start with the low-hanging fruit, which is the people, all of you...

01:41:42.000 Short people, right?

01:41:45.000 Everybody who's watching this or listening to this right now are the criminals, people literally in prison, that you're paying for that are not in this country legally.

01:41:53.000 And you'd be shocked at how many thousands and thousands of people that are.

01:41:57.000 And then all the convicted felons.

01:42:00.000 There's a lot of low-hanging fruit there that's going to be...

01:42:03.000 How are you going to find these people?

01:42:05.000 It's actually not that hard to find folks who have broken the law in this country.

01:42:12.000 Start there and then we'll see where we are.

01:42:15.000 I'm going to start with a whole new batch after that because I think the American people have kind of made it clear that they want to see deportations of not just people that have committed other crimes, but they want to see deportations of people that have come here illegally.

01:42:31.000 We've seen, you know, poll after poll after poll that people say that there's like 70% of the Americans.

01:42:39.000 Yeah, it was 70% of Americans say that.

01:42:41.000 They support mass deportations and it's not going to happen.

01:42:44.000 It's not going to happen.

01:42:46.000 Listen, Debbie Downer over there. 1.00

01:42:49.000 Call me in two years and tell me if it's happened.

01:42:53.000 It's not going to happen.

01:42:55.000 Stop trying to make mass deportations happen.

01:42:57.000 They're not going to happen.

01:42:59.000 Tell me in two years.

01:43:01.000 Mass deportations are going to happen.

01:43:03.000 Stephen Miller, we just met with him.

01:43:05.000 He's in Congress.

01:43:06.000 And he's laid out this plan very clearly of how they're going to go about doing this.

01:43:12.000 People are going to get deported.

01:43:14.000 That is going to happen.

01:43:15.000 In your face! 0.71

01:43:17.000 In my face that people said it's going to happen?

01:43:20.000 That's in my face?

01:43:21.000 Okay.

01:43:23.000 And we're going to build the wall, just to be clear.

01:43:24.000 Oh, sure.

01:43:26.000 I'm so excited.

01:43:28.000 It's in the reconciliation package.

01:43:30.000 I can barely contain myself.

01:43:31.000 You don't want a wall?

01:43:33.000 Of course I want those things.

01:43:34.000 Of course.

01:43:35.000 I, more than almost anyone, would love for that to happen.

01:43:38.000 Mary's allergic to hope. 0.86

01:43:40.000 It's not going to happen. 0.98

01:43:43.000 Trump is a heartbreaker.

01:43:47.000 Let's see.

01:43:49.000 Hale Gailey says, crime requires a victim fill.

01:43:53.000 The left lane is for hurting the government's feelings.

01:43:55.000 The state loves to fine you over their butthurt.

01:43:59.000 This is true, but I think it's still a succinct way to tell people to get out of the left lane unless you're going to be going over the speed limit.

01:44:12.000 Specifically, a lot over the speed limit.

01:44:14.000 Shout out to all drivers in Ohio.

01:44:16.000 They get into the left lane and slow down.

01:44:19.000 See, this is literally what they were talking about earlier when I was saying that everyone in Michigan...

01:44:22.000 You're from Michigan.

01:44:23.000 No, I'm from Minnesota, but my fiancé's from Michigan, and everybody in Michigan that I talk to hates...

01:44:33.000 It's a fact.

01:44:41.000 West Virginia borders Ohio on the Ohio River.

01:44:43.000 I'm telling you as a fact, they do that.

01:44:47.000 Yeah, it's a horrible state to drive through.

01:44:49.000 I tell you what, when I was just driving the Jeep, it was much more frustrating because the Jeep isn't fast.

01:44:56.000 Like, you can't get around people.

01:44:57.000 If there's passing on the right is not an option because it's, you know, kind of dangerous and it's slow and, you know, I got the Tesla.

01:45:06.000 I tell you what, man.

01:45:07.000 I'm not worried about passing on the right anymore.

01:45:09.000 It only takes half a second.

01:45:10.000 I'm by you.

01:45:12.000 You should still get over into the right lane if you're going slow, but the left lane is for crime, man.

01:45:20.000 Get out of there.

01:45:21.000 I'm scared of people like you. 0.99

01:45:23.000 Are you?

01:45:25.000 You know, I think I went over 100 miles an hour like maybe two, three dozen times in my life before I got the Tesla.

01:45:33.000 I can't keep it below 100 miles an hour if I'm passing someone now.

01:45:36.000 You can't just say that on the internet.

01:45:38.000 I mean, I did.

01:45:40.000 Telling on yourself here.

01:45:42.000 Nobody important watches this.

01:45:45.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:45:47.000 Like 50,000 people or whatever are watching now.

01:45:50.000 Shots fired.

01:45:51.000 I'm kidding.

01:45:53.000 Just Cause I'm Free says if you want to stop a lot of the Democrat insanity, then we need two things.

01:46:01.000 A citizenship question on the census and representation is dependent on U.S. citizenship.

01:46:08.000 Immigrants shouldn't have representation in government. 1.00

01:46:12.000 I feel like it should be obvious.

01:46:16.000 So Trump tried to stop that last one.

01:46:18.000 The census took place under Biden.

01:46:21.000 The congressional district apportionment happened, and it's literally anybody who is living and breathing in a congressional district is how they count those districts.

01:46:32.000 That's why Republicans got over 74 million votes for the House of Representatives, but we have a two-seat majority.

01:46:42.000 Yeah.

01:46:43.000 That's one of the things that I keep, like, I... There's times where we'll be talking about something, and we'll get ideological on something, and I'm like, hold on, guys.

01:46:52.000 We've got to remember, we only have a tiny majority, and we're going to have to make deals.

01:46:59.000 That's why we have to do one big, beautiful bill, because you don't have enough of a majority to shove things through. 0.74

01:47:09.000 No matter how much people perceive that Trump has a mandate, Trump doesn't have the votes to say, I'm doing whatever I want.

01:47:17.000 If there were 60, you know, if we had 65 senators and 300 people in the Republican Party in the House, it'd be like, all right, it's on.

01:47:25.000 Do whatever the heck, you know, the conservatives want that's clearly, you know, let's do it.

01:47:31.000 And what we get scared of, and you just kind of touched on this, go back to even when the Democrats had the supermajority under Obama.

01:47:39.000 They had all these things they were going to do.

01:47:41.000 The end of the day, all they got done was Obamacare.

01:47:45.000 Yep.

01:47:45.000 One big thing.

01:47:46.000 And this is a party, the Democrats, that just vote lockstep.

01:47:50.000 Yeah.

01:47:50.000 They don't stray and could only get one thing.

01:47:53.000 That's why I'm concerned about breaking it up into two bills that you'll get one little bill done in the beginning and then you'll never get to the rest of the big stuff.

01:48:02.000 Why is it like a lot of people have mentioned like when Roe v.

01:48:05.000 Wade was overturned, like why didn't they try to enshrine it?

01:48:11.000 Because then they couldn't use it as a cluddle.

01:48:14.000 I understand that.

01:48:15.000 But I'm saying, is there another reason for it?

01:48:17.000 I just assume it's because they fundraise on abortion.

01:48:21.000 So if you make it a constitutional amendment, it is no longer something that they have to worry about.

01:48:25.000 Therefore, it's no longer something that they can extract money through.

01:48:29.000 Well, constitutional amendment takes two-thirds, though, right?

01:48:31.000 So, I mean, they didn't have the numbers on it, but why they didn't just...

01:48:34.000 You don't think they wouldn't have been able to flip any of the...

01:48:37.000 Any rhinos on that?

01:48:38.000 I don't think so.

01:48:39.000 I mean, that's a death sentence out on the streets in, like, a Republican primary.

01:48:43.000 I mean, that's...

01:48:44.000 But it's a good point.

01:48:46.000 I don't know why they didn't try it.

01:48:50.000 I mean, yeah, I mean, they just continue to bludgeon us with it, you know, to Phil's point on it.

01:48:55.000 I mean, they're fundraising off and everything else.

01:48:57.000 I mean, if Donald Trump had lost, I mean, that's why the midterms in, you know, 2022...

01:49:06.000 Where the red wave didn't happen was straight up because of Roe vs. 0.87

01:49:10.000 Wade being overturned.

01:49:11.000 And it's such an effective argument.

01:49:14.000 There were tons of people that were making the argument, I'm voting for Kamala Harris because women need to be able to control their health care. 1.00

01:49:23.000 Even though that is a complete and total farce of an argument, that was still the argument and it convinced low information voters.

01:49:33.000 You know, people that were like, oh, you know, 50-year-old women that can't get pregnant are like, oh, I gotta make sure my daughter can kill my granddaughter. 1.00

01:49:41.000 Low-info voter, just a euphemism for females now. 1.00

01:49:44.000 No.

01:49:46.000 Yikes.

01:49:46.000 I didn't say that.

01:49:48.000 Do you think that, Mary?

01:49:50.000 I didn't say that either.

01:49:52.000 It actually came out of your mouth, though.

01:49:55.000 Just an idea.

01:49:56.000 We're just a bit bawling here.

01:49:57.000 I'm just saying.

01:50:02.000 Lunderwear?

01:50:03.000 Does that say Lunderwear?

01:50:05.000 It looks like it says Lunderwear.

01:50:07.000 Focus with Mr. Bocas is now live.

01:50:10.000 I've been waiting for this since I dropped that name in chat almost two years ago.

01:50:15.000 Gonna buy my first bag of Casper now.

01:50:18.000 Are you actually the person that came up with Focus with Mr. Bocas?

01:50:23.000 Is this actually canon?

01:50:26.000 Or is this just lore?

01:50:28.000 It looks like it.

01:50:29.000 So, you can get...

01:50:30.000 Go ahead and bring that up.

01:50:31.000 You can get Focus with Mr. Bocas and Ian's Graphene Dream and Two Weeks Till Christmas.

01:50:39.000 You may not realize it, but Two Weeks Till Christmas is a play on the All That Remains song, Two Weeks.

01:50:44.000 It's a big song. 0.99

01:50:46.000 Is Ian kicking your ass at the coffee sales? 1.00

01:50:49.000 Oh, Ian's crushing everybody. 1.00

01:50:52.000 It's ridiculous.

01:50:53.000 And also, the coffee that I'm doing is just a Christmas one, so it's not like a regular coffee, so I'm not worried about the fact that the graphene dream is crushing it, because this is only for a short time, and it's gingerbread-flavored, so it's not like a regular coffee that people are going to be drinking.

01:51:12.000 The thing that surprises me is the Alex Stein.

01:51:18.000 Cocaine filled coffee.

01:51:21.000 17 times the caffeine.

01:51:24.000 I do like the photo.

01:51:25.000 I don't know if it might send people off.

01:51:27.000 Just a little bit.

01:51:28.000 You wake up every morning to put it in your cup and you're like, oh, I don't know if I can do that right now.

01:51:32.000 I have never done cocaine, but I know people that have.

01:51:35.000 That looks like what a cocaine user looks like.

01:51:39.000 I'm not saying that Alex Stein uses cocaine, but I think the artist really captured the essence of someone using cocaine.

01:51:47.000 A lot of cocaine.

01:51:49.000 So, yeah, go and get your cast brew coffee today.

01:51:53.000 Hunter Biden's probably a customer on that one who's like, oh, there's cocaine in this thing.

01:51:57.000 I'm glad they went with the official spelling of Bocas' name.

01:52:01.000 No C in Bocas, just the K. Rest in power, by the way. 1.00

01:52:05.000 I never use the K. I always use the C on every hashtag.

01:52:09.000 Yeah, and you're wrong.

01:52:10.000 You've just been proven wrong.

01:52:11.000 Live on air.

01:52:14.000 Let's see.

01:52:16.000 Superchats.

01:52:16.000 Let's see.

01:52:19.000 What are you doing moving around there?

01:52:20.000 Oh, okay.

01:52:22.000 GameSushi says, Phil been a fan of all that remains since I saw you guys on Fuse TV in the early 2000s.

01:52:28.000 Man.

01:52:29.000 Thank you.

01:52:29.000 I appreciate that.

01:52:30.000 Which you should have done.

01:52:31.000 Saw you guys around 2009 at Soma in San Diego.

01:52:34.000 That show was sick.

01:52:36.000 Soma was a great room, man.

01:52:38.000 You were going to say?

01:52:39.000 I'd say Phil just reads like, Phil, I love your music.

01:52:42.000 Superchats for 30 minutes.

01:52:43.000 Yeah.

01:52:44.000 I mean.

01:52:45.000 We can do that.

01:52:46.000 I mean, the people aren't wrong.

01:52:48.000 I mean, look, the people got a voice and they want to talk about all their remains.

01:52:52.000 How do you remember that show?

01:52:54.000 I don't remember.

01:52:55.000 I can't say that I specifically remember the show, but I remember SOMA. And also, in 2000, we probably only played at SOMA in 2009. One time.

01:53:06.000 And I know that it was on the Overcome tour because Overcome came out in 2008. So I don't remember specifically what was happening.

01:53:12.000 Like that show, I couldn't remember things that happened.

01:53:15.000 But I remember the shows in San Diego were sick.

01:53:18.000 I remember Soma was a sick room. 1.00

01:53:20.000 And I remember the tours that were going on in 2009 for All That Remains were awesome.

01:53:26.000 So that's how I remember.

01:53:29.000 I was just thinking maybe...

01:53:31.000 You remembered that guy.

01:53:32.000 Oh, no, no, I don't remember seeing him.

01:53:34.000 You think I was just lying to him?

01:53:37.000 Bro, I remember, homie. 0.99

01:53:39.000 Yeah.

01:53:42.000 Miss Leon Burger?

01:53:43.000 Is that what it says?

01:53:44.000 Shout out to Riley from Spirit of Fear Clothing.

01:53:47.000 Hope you're enjoying the stuff I sent you.

01:53:49.000 Love to see you skate in it in D.C., maybe on the steps.

01:53:55.000 You gonna grind the steps, Riley?

01:53:57.000 Will they allow you to grind on the steps, do you think?

01:54:00.000 I don't know if they're gonna let me allow to grind the steps.

01:54:03.000 I need to get back in the park over here, though.

01:54:05.000 I haven't skated in a little bit.

01:54:06.000 I hear that it's better to ask forgiveness than permission.

01:54:10.000 This is true.

01:54:11.000 A guy that has some cameras?

01:54:14.000 You should get someone to go out to...

01:54:15.000 I know.

01:54:16.000 That would be a sick video for the boonies.

01:54:18.000 We could go up there and shred on the hill.

01:54:20.000 That would be sick!

01:54:21.000 Like you can't stop me.

01:54:22.000 Right?

01:54:23.000 Yeah.

01:54:23.000 Do it in April where there's going to be a bunch of cherry blossoms happening.

01:54:27.000 I do want to mention something that it is my intention to start the Congressional Skateboarding Caucus, which does not exist.

01:54:36.000 Who else can skateboard?

01:54:38.000 There's one person up there with a longboard.

01:54:41.000 I don't really count that so much.

01:54:43.000 Yeah, I don't really count that.

01:54:46.000 It's just you so far?

01:54:47.000 Just me so far, but the point would be to, you know, as people are talking about building parks and open spaces and things like that, is take that into consideration and trying to advocate for skate parks as well.

01:55:00.000 And just trying to elevate the sport in its own.

01:55:03.000 I mean, I've been doing it since I was...

01:55:05.000 Twelve, which is a very long time ago.

01:55:07.000 Gets people out and gets people moving, right?

01:55:09.000 Yeah.

01:55:10.000 Touch grass.

01:55:10.000 Exactly.

01:55:11.000 Get them out, get them moving.

01:55:13.000 But, you know, certainly something that's changed my life.

01:55:16.000 I think it can change a lot of young people's lives.

01:55:18.000 Awesome.

01:55:19.000 All right.

01:55:20.000 So, let's see.

01:55:22.000 Super Chats here. 0.99

01:55:24.000 The Text Vexed.

01:55:26.000 The Text Vet, I'm sorry, says that...

01:55:31.000 Immigrant that was arrested was already let go because of unsupported lack, because of a supposed lack of evidence of intent.

01:55:40.000 The story is out there.

01:55:42.000 He was actually arrested because of an outstanding warrant and let go.

01:55:46.000 Good job, California. 0.99

01:55:48.000 Sick.

01:55:49.000 He's got the flamethrower in one hand and they stop him and he's just like, no, I wasn't doing anything.

01:55:54.000 There is a related super chat from...

01:55:58.000 Crowag, the neighbor who they interviewed for the suspected arsonist used words most don't use like citizens arrest and detained, called a blowtorch a flamethrower, then later, what it was, he didn't speak English too, sniff test failed.

01:56:18.000 I don't know.

01:56:19.000 You know, this is one of the reasons, and I was so happy to be able to be on this.

01:56:26.000 One of the first bills I co-sponsored and just passed the House, it's gone over to the Senate, is the Lake and Riley Act.

01:56:32.000 And so I'm a co-sponsor of that piece of legislation. 0.95

01:56:35.000 And it's to stop crap like this from happening. 0.99

01:56:40.000 It's insane. 0.97

01:56:43.000 And California's doing this to itself, and they're going to have a real reckoning on this sanctuary city, sanctuary state, whatever they're doing over there.

01:56:54.000 The Trump administration is going to show up.

01:56:56.000 And there's going to be no more of this anymore.

01:56:59.000 No more.

01:57:02.000 Yeah.

01:57:05.000 Curtis, W-S-C-E-R? I think it says.

01:57:09.000 Who cares what they call him?

01:57:11.000 Literally everyone who's going to call him a convicted felon already thought he was a convicted felon.

01:57:15.000 Yeah, I mean, the whole point of it is just so they can talk and it doesn't actually change the facts that the, you know...

01:57:24.000 The whole thing is illegitimate anyways.

01:57:27.000 They extend, like we said earlier, they extended the statute of limitations.

01:57:30.000 There's no underlying crime that raises the misdemeanors to actual felonies, but he was still convicted on felonies.

01:57:36.000 So it's all bogus, and it's just so the Democrats can feel better about themselves, you know?

01:57:42.000 Yeah.

01:57:43.000 Yeah, I mean, it means nothing to me other than it irritates me.

01:57:48.000 But, you know, at the end of the day...

01:57:51.000 Trump is the man.

01:57:52.000 He's the president, at least.

01:57:55.000 Missions says, Phil, what do you think about the Finn McKinty drama?

01:57:59.000 I think Finn's hilarious.

01:58:00.000 I think he's great.

01:58:01.000 We get along fine.

01:58:02.000 And it doesn't bother me that he doesn't listen to music.

01:58:05.000 Look, the guy just had a kid.

01:58:07.000 What's the drama?

01:58:08.000 So Finn McKinty said on a podcast or something that he's like, look, man, I don't even listen to music anymore.

01:58:14.000 He does all the music podcasts and he talks about the scene and he talks about all these...

01:58:21.000 He's generally accurate when he's talking about at least the facts surrounding bands.

01:58:27.000 His opinion notwithstanding, people can agree or disagree.

01:58:31.000 But he said in a podcast, he's like, yeah, I don't even listen to music.

01:58:35.000 He's not in the scene anymore.

01:58:39.000 I think the guy's over 40 and he just has a family and doesn't do the scene thing anymore.

01:58:48.000 It makes sense to me.

01:58:49.000 I understand it.

01:58:50.000 I know there are people that feel like because he covers music or covered music on YouTube that he should have been, you know, actually listening to music and, like, living the scene and stuff.

01:59:02.000 And I just think that that's a little naive, you know?

01:59:07.000 I mean, look, people that do things for a living, a lot of times they do things for a living.

01:59:14.000 And they don't take it home.

01:59:15.000 And that could mean being a musician.

01:59:18.000 That could be covering music.

01:59:19.000 I know plenty of people that play music.

01:59:22.000 There's a lot of bands, right, that broke up for a reason.

01:59:26.000 Then they got back together.

01:59:28.000 They didn't get back together because they don't hate each other.

01:59:31.000 They got back together for a bag of money.

01:59:33.000 And it's like, oh, we can make how much money if we get back together?

01:59:40.000 I mean, I don't know about Oasis, but I'm not going to...

01:59:43.000 Point any fingers or say any names because I know specifically multiple bands that have done this.

01:59:50.000 But I mean, there's a band called Carcass that literally he just said, oh, why did we get back together?

01:59:56.000 Someone threw a big old bag of money at my feet and I reached down and I picked it up.

02:00:01.000 Can I point out, Heartwork's an awesome album.

02:00:03.000 Heartwork is an awesome album.

02:00:05.000 It's one of the best metal albums of the 90s.

02:00:08.000 If people don't know about Heartwork, go look that up right now.

02:00:11.000 Riley, man.

02:00:12.000 You're great.

02:00:14.000 It is.

02:00:15.000 Heartwork is absolutely...

02:00:17.000 It's an essential death metal record.

02:00:19.000 So, yeah.

02:00:20.000 Let's see.

02:00:21.000 One more we got here.

02:00:22.000 Andrew Davis says, Shout out to Adam Jarvis of Misery Index for being the best drummer from Illinois.

02:00:29.000 Troy Boys and the Cheers Band.

02:00:31.000 Love the show, guys.

02:00:33.000 Thank you very much.

02:00:34.000 I didn't realize that you know the Misery Index, guys.

02:00:38.000 Another killer band.

02:00:41.000 Oh, one more?

02:00:42.000 We got one more.

02:00:43.000 Okay.

02:00:44.000 Lemmy Frost Designs.

02:00:46.000 Phil and PCC are always among my favorite lineup.

02:00:50.000 Could listen to you guys chat about anything for hours.

02:00:54.000 Well done on hosting tonight.

02:00:56.000 Tim Love from Lunchtime, Western Australia.

02:01:01.000 Let's go.

02:01:02.000 Good morning.

02:01:03.000 Good morning down there.

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02:01:12.000 Riley, do you have anything to close with?

02:01:16.000 Got a lot, but you can find all of that at Rep.

02:01:21.000 R.E.P. Riley Moore on X or Riley Moore WV on all my other social media things.

02:01:28.000 We've got a lot of great pieces of legislation we're working with the administration on.

02:01:32.000 And as I said, proud to sponsor that Lake and Riley bill, and I think it's going to pass in the Senate and become a law.

02:01:37.000 Thank God.

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