Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 29, 2026


Dr. Fauci FACING PRISON Over REFUSING To Testify Before Congress | Timcast IRL


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00:02:49.000 Dr. Anthony Fauci pleaded the fifth.
00:02:51.000 He invoked the fifth amendment, I believe, 115 times in the congressional hearings today.
00:02:58.000 He didn't answer a single question.
00:02:59.000 Even when he was asked, What day is it?
00:03:02.000 He said that he was taking the advice of counsel to invoke his fifth amendment right not to testify.
00:03:08.000 Now, here's why it's interesting Dr. Anthony Fauci has blanket immunity over the past 11 years granted by a pardon, which typically means you cannot invoke the fifth.
00:03:18.000 Why?
00:03:19.000 You can't incriminate yourself.
00:03:21.000 You've Already got immunity.
00:03:24.000 Typically, when someone is granted immunity, they were compelled to testify.
00:03:27.000 Now, the real reason that Dr. Fauci invoked the fifth was to prevent future crimes, or literally at that moment, to prevent himself from committing an active crime, which would be perjury.
00:03:38.000 The only issue is the implication there is that Fauci was going to lie no matter what he was asked.
00:03:43.000 This is the problem.
00:03:44.000 Now, Rand Paul has said he is going to go straight to contempt charges bypassing Congress because Fauci was compelled to testify and does not have a fifth amendment right in this capacity.
00:03:57.000 That's where it gets real funny.
00:03:58.000 That guy over at TMZ basically started crying because Anthony Fauci was facing a congressional hearing.
00:04:07.000 That's it.
00:04:08.000 Listen, this dude, Harvey, what's his face, from TMZ was like, it's just so sad that he has to invoke the fifth.
00:04:13.000 He doesn't.
00:04:14.000 He could literally just tell the truth.
00:04:16.000 He has immunity.
00:04:18.000 I'm going to stress this again Biden pardoned Fauci spanning 11 years.
00:04:23.000 Fauci can't go to jail for anything he would say.
00:04:27.000 Unless he lied.
00:04:29.000 Here's the fun part.
00:04:30.000 Because of documents that have since been released, including private emails, as well as Fauci's diary, he'd have to admit to a lot of really evil things, like knowing the origin of COVID in January of 2020 and then lying to the public about it.
00:04:45.000 He could just admit it.
00:04:46.000 That's right.
00:04:47.000 His choices were to lie and destroy his legacy, people like Harvey cry for him, or I'm sorry, tell the truth, which would destroy his legacy, or lie and go to prison.
00:04:57.000 So, we're going to talk about that plus a bunch of other big news.
00:05:01.000 Donald Trump is getting everybody all angry because he posted, he screenshotted something that I screenshotted, where it looks like Amy Coney Barrett's political opinions shifted after the Dobbs decision, facing death threats and the like.
00:05:14.000 So, we'll talk about that and a whole lot more.
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00:06:03.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Larry Ward.
00:06:07.000 Thanks for having me.
00:06:08.000 Who are you?
00:06:08.000 What do you do?
00:06:10.000 I'm the chairman of Constitutional Rice Pack, president of Market Rhythm Inc.
00:06:10.000 Larry Ward.
00:06:14.000 We deliver your emails.
00:06:16.000 Ah, well, wonderful.
00:06:17.000 It'll be great to talk to you about everything that's going on.
00:06:19.000 So thanks for joining us.
00:06:20.000 We've got Ian hanging out.
00:06:21.000 What's up, amigo?
00:06:22.000 Good to be here, buddy.
00:06:23.000 Phil.
00:06:23.000 What's up, everybody?
00:06:24.000 I'm Phil, asking for all the remains.
00:06:25.000 What's up, Carter?
00:06:26.000 What's up, everyone?
00:06:28.000 We've got new chairs.
00:06:28.000 They're very comfortable.
00:06:29.000 So I'm looking forward to seeing you.
00:06:30.000 Yeah, look at these armrests.
00:06:32.000 Yeah, big.
00:06:33.000 No diss to the other company or anything like that.
00:06:35.000 They lasted us a very long time and they were wonderful, but we got these ones because we needed new ones and they got really nice armrests.
00:06:40.000 Luna Show Every Night wears out the chairs.
00:06:43.000 Yeah, they were falling apart.
00:06:44.000 You know what was really crazy about those chairs?
00:06:46.000 My right arm was worn down, but the seat itself was totally fine.
00:06:50.000 And then all the other seats were worn down, which is just like, it's weird because I sit in mine more than literally anybody else.
00:06:55.000 Do you have a pillow?
00:06:55.000 That's true.
00:06:56.000 Do you use a pillow when you sit?
00:06:57.000 The front edges are frayed on all the chairs except this one.
00:07:00.000 Too many fidgeters.
00:07:01.000 I don't think I ever had the front edges on mine.
00:07:03.000 I wonder if they swapped in a fresh one at some point for me.
00:07:05.000 They did not.
00:07:06.000 There's actually some ones floating around.
00:07:09.000 The bolts were popping out.
00:07:10.000 The arm was disintegrating.
00:07:11.000 The cushioning was gone.
00:07:12.000 Shout out to Fauci.
00:07:13.000 Stop talking about chairs.
00:07:13.000 Let's get into the news.
00:07:15.000 Here we go from the Washington Post.
00:07:17.000 Rand Paul threatens to hold Fauci in contempt.
00:07:20.000 After he declines to answer questions.
00:07:22.000 Actually, it's a little bit more than that.
00:07:24.000 We've got this.
00:07:25.000 Nick Sortor tweeted it.
00:07:26.000 Senator Rand Paul says he's working on a plan to bypass Senate Democrats going directly to the DOJ to lock him up.
00:07:32.000 I myself have individually referred him in the past for prosecution.
00:07:37.000 I sent two letters saying that he destroyed records and he lied to Congress, both felonies.
00:07:42.000 I sent that to the Biden DOJ.
00:07:44.000 It wasn't acted upon.
00:07:46.000 I've also sent it to the Trump DOJ twice.
00:07:48.000 I've sent information and evidence saying it did so.
00:07:51.000 So I think there's a possibility that we don't go to this.
00:07:54.000 Whole Senate floor, but that the committee passes it and we go directly to the Department of Justice.
00:07:59.000 I myself would be very interesting.
00:08:01.000 Now, I'm going to make a bold prediction here.
00:08:03.000 A bold prediction.
00:08:05.000 Nothing will happen.
00:08:06.000 We've got this.
00:08:07.000 This is from congress.gov.
00:08:09.000 This is entered into the congressional record.
00:08:11.000 An article from Newsweek Fauci was untruthful to Congress about Wuhan Lab.
00:08:17.000 Research and new documents appear to show.
00:08:20.000 Yeah.
00:08:21.000 We actually know for a fact now, especially with the released diary pages or whatever, there's That Fauci knew full well that this originated from a lab, did not come from a wet market.
00:08:33.000 Yet for a year and a half to two years or more, he was consistently saying it was from the wet market.
00:08:39.000 Fauci knew full well.
00:08:41.000 Now, this is crazy.
00:08:42.000 RFK Jr. has accused him of actually getting a vaccine side effect, a pulmonary infarction, which is a blood clot in the lung, and then lying about it.
00:08:51.000 I'm going to go ahead and stress this while we're here.
00:08:54.000 And the reason why I believe.
00:08:56.000 That Dr. Fauci needs to go to prison is not just based on contempt charges, but based on a couple of articles that we can now bring up and cite because YouTube is a bunch of psychopaths that would censor us. 0.74
00:09:07.000 But I'll do my best by saying, censor me for showing Stanford.edu, you censorious psychopaths.
00:09:14.000 Stanford published that the vaccine was causing myocarditis at extremely high rates.
00:09:19.000 This is a common side effect.
00:09:22.000 They say, for reasons that aren't clear, incidence peaks among male vaccinees age 13 or below at one in 16,750 vaccinees.
00:09:31.000 This is common.
00:09:32.000 One in 16,000.
00:09:33.000 It's a common side effect.
00:09:35.000 When they gave out hundreds of millions, what do they give out?
00:09:37.000 Tens of millions?
00:09:38.000 How many of these things do they give out?
00:09:39.000 A billion or more?
00:09:41.000 Yeah, I think.
00:09:41.000 I mean, and that's just like one shot.
00:09:43.000 I think they gave multiple rounds to multiple people.
00:09:46.000 Here's my favorite.
00:09:46.000 This is from Nature.com, a peer reviewed published article that says if the mRNA vaccine got into your liver, if it left the injection site, which it did, it would make you more susceptible to getting COVID.
00:10:00.000 Dr. Fauci lied about everything.
00:10:03.000 He claimed he wasn't behind lockdowns.
00:10:05.000 Well, behind the scenes, he was advocating for lockdowns. 0.99
00:10:08.000 This guy is a lunatic. 1.00
00:10:10.000 You know what's really crazy? 1.00
00:10:11.000 Did you guys hear this? 0.98
00:10:12.000 He apparently wrote in his diary that I think Barbra Streisand had like ass sores. 0.99
00:10:18.000 Oh my God. 0.98
00:10:18.000 Did you see that? 0.98
00:10:19.000 No, no.
00:10:20.000 I got another context, though.
00:10:21.000 And they were like, yo, like, why?
00:10:23.000 She called him because she needed medical advice on her shingles. 0.99
00:10:25.000 And he apparently wrote down in his diary, which was like a public record, that she had sores on her ass. 0.99
00:10:33.000 Okay. 1.00
00:10:34.000 Yeah.
00:10:35.000 Every day I find out new information that I never, ever wanted.
00:10:39.000 That's the Streisand effect. 1.00
00:10:41.000 Sometimes you just want to bury that shit. 1.00
00:10:43.000 Yeah, I was on the five. 1.00
00:10:45.000 I want to pull this up.
00:10:45.000 What is this?
00:10:48.000 Fauci diary, Streisand's butt privacy scandal is funny.
00:10:53.000 Did you know Barbara Streisand?
00:10:55.000 Okay, I'm just going to play this.
00:10:57.000 Wait, where did it go?
00:10:58.000 Oh, did they get rid of it?
00:11:00.000 No, come on, come on.
00:11:01.000 What is this?
00:11:02.000 The 5FNC.
00:11:03.000 Okay, this is the official channel.
00:11:06.000 Let's play it.
00:11:08.000 Details on a government surfer.
00:11:11.000 They thought to include intimate medical details on a government surfer. 1.00
00:11:17.000 She had sores on her butt. 0.93
00:11:20.000 But and he includes that because you know what, it's going to be great for the book. 0.96
00:11:26.000 What happened to doctor patient confidentiality?
00:11:28.000 This is a thing where fame and status had him sacrifice the average citizen, or in this case, Barbara Streisand.
00:11:36.000 But you know what, she didn't, I'm sure she didn't want that out there.
00:11:40.000 Now there you go.
00:11:40.000 Now it's out there.
00:11:43.000 Uh, keep praising Anthony Fauci.
00:11:44.000 We all love the guy. 0.99
00:11:45.000 He was a psychotic fame whore who's made millions of dollars lying to the American public. 1.00
00:11:51.000 He was going out and saying whatever. 1.00
00:11:53.000 My favorite thing.
00:11:55.000 Is that he gets, first of all, Fauci's first position was, you don't need to be wearing a mask.
00:12:00.000 And the reason he did this was because he said he wanted to make sure doctors got masks before you did, because they need it more than you do.
00:12:07.000 So he admits initially to lying about mask requirements.
00:12:10.000 Then later he flip flops and says, you need to go wear masks.
00:12:14.000 At one point, I think it's like 2022, randomly he's asked, if a mask is going to protect you, then wouldn't two masks protect you as well?
00:12:23.000 And he literally says, well, you don't need to be wearing two masks.
00:12:27.000 But then, Wackaloon cultists pick up the story and start saying two masks offers double the protection.
00:12:34.000 And then, like a day later, Fauci's like, Yeah, okay, wear two masks.
00:12:37.000 And then all of a sudden, people wearing two masks. 0.82
00:12:39.000 It's a cult, and these people are developmentally disabled, and Lord have mercy, they vote. 0.72
00:12:44.000 Sort of what this highlights is okay, Fauci, either he's a doctor and his duty is to the medical industry, his patients, and doing no harm, or he's a government employee directed to oversee a weapons program. 0.95
00:12:55.000 And I think there was this like, people think he's a doctor, but he's like a government lackey.
00:13:00.000 He's basically doing.
00:13:01.000 He was doing their bidding. 0.73
00:13:03.000 So at this point, it's like so was Hermann Göring, you know, when he led the Luftwaffe, Hitler's Air Force, but like they still executed Hermann Göring, even though he was just following orders. 0.77
00:13:13.000 Like at some point up the chain, you got to put responsibility at the foot of those that did it.
00:13:19.000 And I mean, I don't know.
00:13:21.000 You got to be specific, Ian.
00:13:24.000 He was the Oberbeferschaber of the Luftwaffe.
00:13:29.000 Oh, he was? 0.94
00:13:30.000 That's what I meant to say. 0.99
00:13:31.000 Oberbefalsschaber.
00:13:34.000 He was a national hero until they lost the war, and then he was a war criminal.
00:13:38.000 So, like, it's all, you know, how do you perceive these guys?
00:13:41.000 I do wonder what the guy in charge of the Luftwaffe was charged with.
00:13:46.000 How they got him.
00:13:47.000 At the Nuremberg trial?
00:13:48.000 Yeah.
00:13:49.000 Oh, I just figured it out.
00:13:49.000 War criminals.
00:13:50.000 Ober means over. 0.87
00:13:53.000 Beffelschaber.
00:13:54.000 I don't know what that means.
00:13:54.000 Find out.
00:13:55.000 Commander.
00:13:56.000 It means over command.
00:13:57.000 Oh, super.
00:13:58.000 Hey, we're learning German here on Timcast IRL.
00:14:01.000 You know what Schmetterling means?
00:14:01.000 Let's go.
00:14:03.000 No.
00:14:03.000 Butterfly.
00:14:04.000 Oh, look at that.
00:14:05.000 And isn't like Haschen.
00:14:09.000 Rabbit?
00:14:10.000 I don't know. 0.97
00:14:11.000 I just know Butterfly because this is hilarious. 0.99
00:14:11.000 Hoshin. 0.99
00:14:15.000 I know Schnell is faster, but the Nuremberg trials, they nailed Hermann Göring with conspiracy, crimes against peace, war crimes, crimes against humanity. 0.57
00:14:24.000 They went all out on that guy. 0.51
00:14:25.000 He was like the poster child of getting back at the Nazis.
00:14:28.000 I get why they were going after the dudes in the SS and the people that were working the camps, but I'm not clear on what it was.
00:14:37.000 I don't know all of the German bombing campaigns either, so it's not like I'm saying that he couldn't have done things that were deserving of, but I don't know what.
00:14:43.000 With the guy that was in charge of the Air Force.
00:14:45.000 There were so many people involved, they had to go after a select few.
00:14:48.000 They didn't go after Rommel, though.
00:14:50.000 Who?
00:14:51.000 Rommel?
00:14:51.000 You died.
00:14:52.000 Did he die before the end of the war?
00:14:52.000 Erwin Rommel?
00:14:53.000 I think so.
00:14:55.000 He was the German tank commander guy that was such a.
00:14:59.000 Let's just say Kaninchen.
00:15:02.000 We'll go with.
00:15:03.000 Kaninchen.
00:15:04.000 Sorry.
00:15:04.000 I don't know German.
00:15:06.000 It means rabbit.
00:15:07.000 Oh, there we go.
00:15:08.000 There you go.
00:15:09.000 Herman Goring, though, was.
00:15:10.000 I don't speak German.
00:15:10.000 He was involved with the SS.
00:15:11.000 Goring was involved with the SS and overseeing the camps and stuff.
00:15:14.000 So he was.
00:15:15.000 Anyway, back to Fauci.
00:15:15.000 Yeah.
00:15:16.000 So I'm not saying Fauci's Herman Goring's status war criminal, but look, to be honest with you, Fauci, if all of the accusations are correct and all of the evidence is legitimate, 0.94
00:15:29.000 he's responsible for a lot more deaths than Rama was. 0.78
00:15:35.000 What Rand did today is kind of awesome because he put Fauci in a knowing position.
00:15:43.000 You know, you bring him in, you got to make him testify.
00:15:46.000 He's got three choices.
00:15:47.000 Plead the fifth, which he didn't have the right to do so.
00:15:47.000 He could.
00:15:50.000 Like Tim just said, he could have lied and perjured himself, or he could have told the truth and completely destroyed his entire reputation.
00:15:59.000 Well, not just his, but the Democratic Party, the corporate press, the government, deep state, all of it.
00:16:05.000 So he had no choice but to break the law.
00:16:08.000 He broke the law 115 times today by pleading the fifth.
00:16:13.000 Yeah, so you don't have, Ian, this is for you, you don't have the right to invoke the fifth when you're already immune.
00:16:20.000 Right.
00:16:21.000 There is no self incrimination when you are immune from prosecution.
00:16:24.000 The idea is if he was completely honest, they couldn't charge him with anything he said.
00:16:30.000 But realistically, the court of public opinion would have taken over at that point.
00:16:33.000 Well, I mean, it would be politically damaging, and he'd probably, someone would probably slip him polonium if he went for the Democratic Party by actually exposing their secrets.
00:16:41.000 I would love to see.
00:16:41.000 Go ahead.
00:16:42.000 I'm going to say in criminal proceedings, there might be two guys, a lesser criminal and a greater criminal.
00:16:47.000 Like there's like a ringleader of a criminal organization, then there's like an underling.
00:16:52.000 They go to the underling and say, We will cut you a deal if you testify against your boss.
00:16:57.000 And he goes, Nope, I won't do it.
00:16:59.000 And they say, Okay, we've granted you immunity.
00:17:01.000 Now you have no Fifth Amendment rights.
00:17:03.000 You have to testify against everything.
00:17:04.000 You can't go to prison.
00:17:05.000 And so you're compelled to testify.
00:17:07.000 You have to.
00:17:08.000 And if you lie, you can go to jail.
00:17:09.000 So you can be ordered to testify.
00:17:11.000 And if you don't, they can hold you in contempt, which is exactly what's happening right now.
00:17:15.000 Rand Paul is immune from prosecution based on anything he would have done for the past 11 years.
00:17:20.000 Like Fauci could have walked up and just punted your dachshund like off a bridge.
00:17:25.000 And he's pardoned from that if evidence came out that he did that.
00:17:28.000 Just going around kicking dogs.
00:17:30.000 However, if he perjured himself today, those are new crimes.
00:17:34.000 There are people that were saying on X that he's immune from federal prosecution, but does that include state prosecution?
00:17:41.000 What about foreign prosecution?
00:17:42.000 That is one idea that I was talking about and I'm interested in.
00:17:47.000 I would love to see Bukele try to extradite him and have the administration send him on down to El Salvador. 0.90
00:17:54.000 Any country that had people die of COVID.
00:17:58.000 If he, you know, again, if the allegations are true and he had a hand in creating it and covering it up and stuff, any country that had him, that had any other citizens die or, you know, a bunch of their citizens die,
00:18:11.000 you would think they have a legitimate right to say, look, he's responsible for these deaths.
00:18:16.000 We want to try him.
00:18:17.000 So any country out there, any leaders that are watching Timcast, you hear me?
00:18:22.000 Poland, El Salvador, anybody, you know, go ahead and.
00:18:28.000 I don't know.
00:18:29.000 I mean, whoever.
00:18:31.000 El Salvador works.
00:18:32.000 I mean, maybe Saudi Arabia, they're pretty harsh in their punishments, you know?
00:18:36.000 You never know, though.
00:18:37.000 If you let the snake out of the box, the snake might disappear into the grass.
00:18:40.000 Not if he goes to El Salvador.
00:18:42.000 Yeah, not if you put him in chains, put him on a plane, and take him straight to Sea Camp.
00:18:46.000 No, it would be an extradition, meaning if El Salvador charged him, then the U.S. could just be like, okay, we're going to honor an extradition treaty or whatever.
00:18:54.000 The issue is, what did Fauci do that he could be criminally charged in a foreign country?
00:19:00.000 I suppose the argument is that he provided funding to EcoHealth Alliance through the NIH, which was used for gain of function research.
00:19:07.000 I don't think you're really going to get any international criminal charges.
00:19:10.000 As for the U.S., knowingly lying to the American people.
00:19:15.000 I mean, you probably have 7,000 criminal, like, statute violations based on the things that he was doing going on TV and lying to the American public, especially in a time of crisis.
00:19:23.000 I think this has now become a battle of public opinion because, like, you mentioned earlier, Harvey Levine, I think is his name.
00:19:31.000 Levin, maybe?
00:19:31.000 Levin, Harvey Levin from TMZ is speaking very highly of Fauci, almost coming out to defend him, and he is literally defending his work history and his person.
00:19:41.000 So I think if the public really wants Fauci imprisoned, he'll go to prison.
00:19:45.000 But if they don't, If the masses, the public really wants the Save Act passed, and that ain't happening.
00:19:50.000 What's that?
00:19:51.000 Everybody, the public really wants the Save America Act passed, and that ain't happening.
00:19:55.000 Just because the public wants something doesn't mean the public gets it.
00:19:58.000 Well, you know, I haven't spoken to anybody that was pro Fauci in at least a year and a half.
00:20:05.000 You know, people weren't like, hey, the government really handled COVID well.
00:20:09.000 Most people came up, you know, even the people who were pro Fauci, you know, for the most part were coming back and saying, well, you know, the vaccine really didn't work.
00:20:18.000 You know, like he said, it did.
00:20:20.000 It was safe and effective, and it wasn't safe and effective.
00:20:23.000 All of that nonsense.
00:20:24.000 People finally woke up.
00:20:26.000 But today, I got attacked on social media by, I think they were Fauci bots.
00:20:34.000 They came out of the woodwork attacking me because I just questioned Fauci's Fifth Amendment.
00:20:41.000 I got a question.
00:20:42.000 We got to jump to the story real quick.
00:20:43.000 Hold that question for this.
00:20:44.000 We got this video from TMZ Harvey Levin nearly crying because Fauci is facing a Morsel of accountability.
00:20:53.000 Check this clip out.
00:20:56.000 I have not used TMZ's YouTube channel to vent personal feelings about issues, but I'm going to do that today.
00:21:07.000 Watching Anthony Fauci before a congressional hearing taking the Fifth Amendment
00:21:17.000 is just one of the most heartbreaking things I have seen in government in my lifetime.
00:21:22.000 And And this is something we need to reckon with.
00:21:28.000 That I'm going to say up front, I have problems the way the CDC handled COVID.
00:21:35.000 I think that they did damage.
00:21:39.000 I just got to pause real quick.
00:21:41.000 Fauci did not run the CDC, he had nothing to do with the CDC.
00:21:44.000 He was running the NIAID through the NIH.
00:21:49.000 What is this guy talking about?
00:21:51.000 This guy, Harvey, is all upset that Fauci has to plead the fifth because he's scared of breaking the law.
00:21:57.000 He's immune from prosecution for everything he did over the past 11 years.
00:22:01.000 The only concern is, will he lie now?
00:22:03.000 That's it.
00:22:04.000 But, bro, Harvey, did you not know this?
00:22:08.000 Did you think Fauci ran the CDC?
00:22:10.000 To children, to adults.
00:22:14.000 And I don't think they did it maliciously.
00:22:17.000 I think they did it because they were using their judgment and were overprotective.
00:22:25.000 Well, you clearly did not read.
00:22:25.000 Great.
00:22:27.000 Any of the information that has since come out, including that Fauci lied to Congress several years ago.
00:22:33.000 I just find this that Harvey of TMZ would use this platform without for personal gain because he's friends with Fauci.
00:22:42.000 He goes on to explain how he's friends with Fauci.
00:22:45.000 He is using his platform to defend his friend from accountability from the American people, and it is atrocious.
00:22:51.000 And I think at times overstated things they said they knew but really didn't.
00:22:57.000 And I have personal problems with the way that COVID was handled.
00:23:03.000 That said, Anthony Fauci over.
00:23:08.000 A period of decades has been an amazing public servant.
00:23:14.000 In the 80s, I had many friends who died of AIDS, a horrible, painful death.
00:23:24.000 And I had friends who lived because of Anthony Fauci, because he was willing to look at it.
00:23:33.000 This dude's 75 years old.
00:23:35.000 What?
00:23:35.000 You look great, Harvey.
00:23:37.000 I gotta say, Harvey, I'm impressed.
00:23:39.000 I thought he was like 53.
00:23:41.000 When he said he had friends in the 80s, I was like, BS, dude.
00:23:44.000 This guy's like in his 50s.
00:23:45.000 He was 10 years old.
00:23:46.000 A lot of evidence that it was the AZTQ.
00:23:48.000 He's 75 years old.
00:23:50.000 Experimental drugs. 0.99
00:23:51.000 Holy crap. 0.98
00:23:52.000 These drugs they use to treat AIDS. 0.95
00:23:53.000 In a different way than they had looked at them before.
00:23:58.000 He's totally juicing.
00:23:59.000 That really resulted in lives saved.
00:24:02.000 And he has done so many other things in his career.
00:24:06.000 Bro, there's no ad.
00:24:07.000 I don't believe that.
00:24:08.000 But this is a whole Harvey epidemic.
00:24:11.000 Anyway, you get the point.
00:24:13.000 He had personal, his friends personally benefited.
00:24:17.000 He's personally friends.
00:24:18.000 Well, okay, I want to be careful on how I describe this, but it sounds like this is very personal for him, and he very much likes Fauci, and he's using his platform to defend a man who committed crimes.
00:24:27.000 This is crimes because it benefits him. 0.97
00:24:29.000 But I just want to say, holy crap. 0.96
00:24:32.000 The dude is 75. 0.84
00:24:35.000 Criticisms aside, brother, what's going on here?
00:24:38.000 Get in here.
00:24:39.000 Literally, did he find the fountain of youth or Eldorado or something?
00:24:43.000 That's what he loves, I think.
00:24:45.000 Bro, I legit thought he was 53.
00:24:46.000 It's a test.
00:24:47.000 He loves it.
00:24:49.000 Just tests.
00:24:50.000 He's on juice. 0.59
00:24:51.000 Reason I brought up earlier, Herman Goring, because they would have called him a public servant that just did great things for 20 years as well if the Nazis had remained in power.
00:25:00.000 So, you know, one man's treasure is another man's trap. 0.68
00:25:04.000 I mean, coming to eat his soul, you know?
00:25:07.000 I'm just, this guy is only a few years younger than Biden.
00:25:07.000 I'm sorry.
00:25:11.000 He was Harvey's.
00:25:12.000 That dude looks like he could juggle Joe Biden and Trump.
00:25:15.000 He sounds like it, too.
00:25:17.000 That's wild.
00:25:18.000 I got a question about.
00:25:19.000 Tesla's miraculous.
00:25:21.000 I think what Fauci was doing was serving the government to oversee a secret weapons program and then it got leaked.
00:25:26.000 But so if the guys working on the Manhattan Project, Oppenheimer and stuff, if they were saying, like, no, we're not doing any weapons research, and then there was a leak and a nuclear catastrophe and killed 10,000 Americans, would we have executed Oppenheimer?
00:25:41.000 I don't think, I don't know.
00:25:42.000 Would we have?
00:25:43.000 Maybe if he kept a diary, like, detailing that he was doing no.
00:25:48.000 Because if Fauci's COVID, Or this COVID thing was used as a weapon in a war to defeat the opponent, we wouldn't.
00:25:54.000 It's the anger of the opponent.
00:25:55.000 COVID doesn't have the capabilities to defeat an opponent in that way.
00:25:59.000 And the argument for building the nuclear bomb was that the Nazis were going to beat the Americans to it.
00:26:08.000 I mean, Einstein himself wrote a letter to the president and said, Look, we figured out that this is possible. 0.64
00:26:17.000 We think this is possible.
00:26:19.000 And I used to live in Germany. 0.93
00:26:21.000 The Nazis are definitely working on this.
00:26:23.000 We need to beat them to it. 0.91
00:26:25.000 So, if there was an accident that killed a lot of people, it would have been justified under the program itself, would have been justified under the assumption that the Nazis are working on this. 0.91
00:26:35.000 Remember, the Nazis had great, had the most advanced rocket technology. 0.87
00:26:40.000 They were the first people to actually shoot rockets. 0.79
00:26:43.000 Operation Paperclip brought a lot of the scientists from Nazi Germany over to the U.S. to work on the U.S. rocket program.
00:26:49.000 It was World War II. 0.65
00:26:50.000 So, it was a significantly different thing from just let's see if we can do this, which is what they were doing with the COVID vaccine.
00:26:58.000 If all the stories are correct, they were experimenting just to see if they could do it.
00:27:03.000 There was no actual justification of we have to beat someone else to this technology.
00:27:09.000 So, no, there wouldn't have been a situation where they're like, oh, hey, you know, there was an accident and you were screwing around with things you shouldn't have been screwing around with. 0.81
00:27:18.000 No, they were literally in a race with the Nazis, with the Germans, to produce a nuclear bomb. 0.64
00:27:22.000 I know everybody has landed on that it was a lab leak.
00:27:27.000 I've never believed that.
00:27:29.000 I think that it was intentionally released.
00:27:34.000 And it was intentionally released because Hong Kong was the Hong Kong protests in China were real.
00:27:43.000 They were starting to really upend the communist control.
00:27:48.000 And they were out there singing worship songs in public, something that China would never do. 0.87
00:27:56.000 And then all of a sudden, China accidentally leaks this out of their lab. 0.87
00:28:01.000 And of course, it also had the added benefit of hurting Donald Trump. 0.69
00:28:07.000 Yes, was Fauci funding it?
00:28:10.000 100%.
00:28:11.000 Did Fauci go around the law in terms of you're not allowed to do gain of function anymore?
00:28:18.000 And he went around the law and hadn't paid an international company through the Eco Health Alliance?
00:28:24.000 Yeah, he did.
00:28:25.000 But I think China intentionally released it.
00:28:28.000 Yeah, look, I don't have any kind of.
00:28:31.000 Opposition to that, I wouldn't be surprised one bit.
00:28:33.000 I don't have any kind of strong feeling towards it at all, but it certainly doesn't sound like something, uh, I you know, China wouldn't do.
00:28:39.000 I mean, they they oppress their own people.
00:28:41.000 Why would they care about the rest of the world? 0.95
00:28:43.000 You know, those Hong Kong protests were nuts.
00:28:45.000 I had a friend that went, Donald Trump, don't trust China.
00:28:47.000 China is as whole. 1.00
00:28:49.000 They were like 2019, it was that Hong Kong, it was a huge, it was massive protests erupted in, and they were like the Chinese, I guess, were like shooting fire hoses filled with like blue chemicals to stain and burn the that's a normal thing that everybody does. 0.99
00:29:02.000 And they were like to mark their protesters so they could find them later. 0.99
00:29:05.000 I mean, it was vicious.
00:29:06.000 We do that in the United States.
00:29:08.000 I haven't seen a lot of it in the U.S., but it was the first I'd heard of it.
00:29:11.000 We should do more of water cannons during the day. 0.97
00:29:13.000 But they would like put like deep burning chemicals in it and they'd spray. 0.98
00:29:17.000 They just drive by and spray people with it.
00:29:19.000 It's called oleo resin capsaicin.
00:29:20.000 We do that in the United States.
00:29:22.000 Brutal.
00:29:23.000 We should do more of it when it comes to protests, in my opinion.
00:29:25.000 What?
00:29:26.000 Yeah.
00:29:27.000 You protest tyranny.
00:29:29.000 I don't go out in the street and sit down in front of other people's cars.
00:29:32.000 They're not protesting tyranny, they're protesting the deportation of illegals.
00:29:38.000 We might have to protest tyranny in the future.
00:29:40.000 You know, Harvey's crying about the weaponization of government.
00:29:43.000 He wasn't crying about the weaponization of government during when Biden's federal government was arresting grandma and grandpa across the country because people were let into the Capitol building.
00:29:57.000 You know, and the whole thing about, you remember they said they were armed protests on January 6th?
00:30:03.000 It was a lie.
00:30:04.000 It was, no, this is what they said they were armed with flagpoles.
00:30:09.000 Well, yeah.
00:30:10.000 They walked in with flagpoles.
00:30:12.000 There was one guy with guns.
00:30:13.000 I think there was one or two guys who had guns.
00:30:15.000 But to characterize the entirety of J6 as like an armed.
00:30:18.000 They say armed because what they want to do is to give the viewers or the person listening to the news report the impression that they had rifles or they had guns and they were attacking the Capitol with guns with the intent of trying to get in.
00:30:33.000 So many people bought into that.
00:30:34.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:30:35.000 So many people bought into that. 0.99
00:30:37.000 But like I said, weaponization of government is sending the government after the citizens.
00:30:42.000 It's not holding government officials who broke the law accountable.
00:30:46.000 That's what we have to get back to.
00:30:49.000 To.
00:30:49.000 And, you know, I agree with Tim.
00:30:50.000 I don't think that there's anything that is going to come of this.
00:30:53.000 I know Rand Paul is going to push for it and he's a hero for doing it.
00:30:57.000 But, quite frankly, you know, we have to start holding people, the officials at the highest level, accountable.
00:31:03.000 I mean, we've, one of the things we talk about on the show a lot is like the loss of trust in not just institutions, but specifically the government, right?
00:31:13.000 This is exactly why people feel like, correctly feel like, if you're in a position of authority in the government, You basically get away with anything.
00:31:24.000 And case in point, right?
00:31:26.000 Like the average person that hears about this story, they're like, all right, well, yeah, of course he should get arrested.
00:31:33.000 Well, you know, Biden already pardoned him.
00:31:35.000 What?
00:31:35.000 Biden pardoned him?
00:31:36.000 Yeah.
00:31:37.000 For 11 years prior to the date of Fauci, of the actual pardon.
00:31:42.000 For 11 years, people hear that and they're like, of course he did something wrong.
00:31:46.000 Of course the Biden administration is covering for him.
00:31:50.000 It's so blatantly obvious to the average person if they pay.
00:31:55.000 You know, even a little bit of attention to this stuff.
00:31:57.000 And so now you get a population that's just like, what does it matter?
00:32:02.000 What does it matter?
00:32:03.000 They're not, they're going to do whatever they want.
00:32:05.000 They thought when they were electing Trump that it was going to be a massive change, but Trump was very naive in his first administration.
00:32:13.000 He wasn't prepared to be the president.
00:32:15.000 You know, you've heard stories, everybody's heard stories about how, you know, when he found out that he was, that he won, he was like, I did what?
00:32:21.000 You know, I had no idea, didn't believe he was going to win.
00:32:24.000 Everybody was predicting, Hillary Clinton was going to win 99% chance or 98% chance, whatever they were saying.
00:32:31.000 And so he was massively unprepared.
00:32:32.000 He did learn a lot in the four years that he wasn't the president, and he came back and he's done some really significant things.
00:32:38.000 But you need it, it took 70 years, 80 years to build the bureaucracy that we have now.
00:32:46.000 It's not going to get like it's unrealistic to think that one president is going to come in and say, All right, we're going to do all this stuff and fix everything in one four year term.
00:32:54.000 It's going to take consistent elections of people that actually intend to.
00:33:00.000 To do things like Trump's done, it would take probably 10 presidents, you know, maybe six or seven doing the same kind of things that Trump does to shrink the government, shrink the bureaucracy.
00:33:15.000 I'm not particularly critical of Trump when it comes to the things that he has not been able to accomplish.
00:33:21.000 And that's because a president cannot do the things that people expect.
00:33:25.000 Congress has to do a lot of it.
00:33:27.000 Let's be honest, never at any point, anywhere, at any time, Has Donald Trump done something wrong?
00:33:34.000 Of course not.
00:33:35.000 He's perfect.
00:33:36.000 No.
00:33:36.000 That's why he likes you, Tim.
00:33:38.000 Because you know him better than anyone.
00:33:39.000 That's right.
00:33:41.000 I will say the one thing I think wasn't really a mistake, but in hindsight, he might actually see it as a mistake.
00:33:49.000 When he first got in office, like you said, he hired the wrong people.
00:33:53.000 But what he did was he did what he always does in business he found the best people in the field.
00:33:59.000 And the problem is the best people in politics are the worst people on the planet.
00:34:07.000 And that's the problem.
00:34:08.000 He hired the best politicians.
00:34:09.000 You mean the best people currently in the Beltway?
00:34:12.000 Like the most effective at their jobs.
00:34:14.000 Like best in the building.
00:34:15.000 Yeah, right. 0.87
00:34:16.000 Which is why now he's like, I'm going to bring in this housing and air conditioning guy to be the DNI because you can't beat Heg Seth.
00:34:22.000 Yeah, got a player.
00:34:23.000 No, I'm talking about Bill Pulte.
00:34:24.000 Heg Seth is like.
00:34:25.000 No, I was just thinking about an army guy he got that was off the street, basically.
00:34:29.000 Got a TV show.
00:34:30.000 Well, I mean, Heg Seth is a military guy with real experience, and he was like, I don't want one of these political generals.
00:34:35.000 I want a real guy, you know?
00:34:36.000 Right.
00:34:37.000 And that's the core difference between 2020, 2016 and 2024.
00:34:43.000 I mean, I think Pulte has been his best hire.
00:34:46.000 It has been.
00:34:47.000 I mean, he fired a third of the deep state of the intelligence agencies.
00:34:51.000 You know, I think this is not a weaponization.
00:34:53.000 I'm the one actually doing something. 0.90
00:34:54.000 This is not a weaponization of government in the way that maybe you might be concerned about Biden directing his DOJ to go after J 6ers or Trump going after Comey for putting seashells on the beach. 0.51
00:35:04.000 You might think he was inciting violence, but that is the president directing, as far as I know, the DOJ to go after a guy. 0.71
00:35:11.000 That you might argue was weaponization, but having Congress go after a guy that they've been constantly trying to get on charges for something.
00:35:18.000 Is not weaponized.
00:35:19.000 That's Congress doing violence.
00:35:20.000 Well, Fauci lied in 2021.
00:35:21.000 I showed the article.
00:35:22.000 September 9th, 2021.
00:35:24.000 Newsweek reports Fauci lied to Congress.
00:35:26.000 That's a crime.
00:35:28.000 We had Bannon held in contempt.
00:35:30.000 Navarro was held in contempt.
00:35:31.000 And they held Bannon in contempt for fake reasons.
00:35:34.000 They wanted documents from Bannon.
00:35:36.000 He said, This is classified.
00:35:37.000 It's executive privilege.
00:35:39.000 So I can't just turn them over.
00:35:40.000 The president has to approve of this.
00:35:42.000 They said, We're going to lock you up.
00:35:43.000 And he goes, Give me time to talk with the president and see if we can get it cleared.
00:35:46.000 Trump then says, Yes, you can release this.
00:35:48.000 And Congress went, Too late, go to jail.
00:35:50.000 They held him in contempt even after he agreed with them. 0.87
00:35:52.000 These people are, it's a dangerous cult of psychopaths and their NPC shield army.
00:35:59.000 Then I guess it is possible for Congress to weaponize their power, of course, it is.
00:36:04.000 But I don't see this as that.
00:36:05.000 This is a legitimate, like Fauci legitimately, if not covered up crimes, committed crimes.
00:36:10.000 Maybe it was at the behest of someone.
00:36:12.000 Maybe it wasn't.
00:36:14.000 But it's pretty, I mean, I think it's, there's enough evidence to consider that it's not a weaponization.
00:36:14.000 I don't know.
00:36:19.000 Like, You got to at least get to the bottom of what's going on.
00:36:23.000 No one made Fauci lie the first time.
00:36:25.000 And no one asked him to lie this time.
00:36:27.000 He could have just testified to the truth.
00:36:29.000 He didn't want to, though, because it would destroy the Democratic Party.
00:36:33.000 And then I'd imagine, let me put it like this, because I want to be very careful how I phrase this.
00:36:38.000 I imagine anybody who spills the beans on what the establishment Democratic Party is doing will find that they accidentally consumed polonium.
00:36:46.000 Yeah.
00:36:47.000 I think Fauci knows if he wants to retire, he's going to roll the dice and hopefully Congress won't put him away because he's not going to retire if he turns on the beans.
00:36:54.000 Let's be honest, Ian.
00:36:55.000 Let's say you had information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.
00:36:59.000 And you were called to testify before Congress.
00:37:02.000 And then a man showed up at your house.
00:37:04.000 And he said, You know what happens if you say one word?
00:37:07.000 What a horrible scenario.
00:37:09.000 What would you do?
00:37:10.000 I mean, self preservation kicks in at some point.
00:37:13.000 I'm not going to throw my life away to maybe get some guy arrested that probably won't go to jail anyway.
00:37:17.000 It's like.
00:37:18.000 You want to know why it's about to get really wild in this country?
00:37:21.000 No children.
00:37:23.000 Because I'll tell you this.
00:37:24.000 Let's see.
00:37:25.000 Dr. Fauci, he's got three kids.
00:37:28.000 And so what happens is.
00:37:30.000 The machine doesn't come to you and say, I am going to take from you.
00:37:35.000 I'll phrase it this way one of my favorite ways to explain this the deal with the devil was never that the demon lord, the dark lord, was going to offer you a new car.
00:37:43.000 People seem to think that a deal with the devil is he comes to you and he says, Ian, I'll give you everything you've ever wanted.
00:37:49.000 Just work for me.
00:37:50.000 The deal with the devil is when he comes to you and says, I'm going to slit your mother's throat in her sleep and send you the video unless you do as I say.
00:37:56.000 And then you beg him, please no, please don't hurt my family.
00:37:59.000 And he says, then do the deal.
00:38:01.000 That's the deal with the devil.
00:38:02.000 So the thing is with Fauci, he's got kids.
00:38:05.000 I'm not saying it's actually happened, but when the machine state comes to you, they'll say, look, you got a kid, bad things are going to happen to your kid.
00:38:11.000 You will come to regret it if you cross us.
00:38:13.000 That's what power does.
00:38:15.000 Now that we have a large generation with no children, you are going to get zealous single incel types.
00:38:23.000 And I'm not saying right wing, I mean, like, it could be a left wing guy or right wing guy, whatever.
00:38:27.000 And the machine state's going to come to him and they're going to be like, if you spill the beans on this, we will.
00:38:34.000 You don't own a house.
00:38:36.000 You got no kids, no wife.
00:38:37.000 Your parents are already dead.
00:38:40.000 Okay, we got nothing.
00:38:41.000 We're going to go prepare for the worst.
00:38:44.000 You got no leverage against a guy who has nothing to lose.
00:38:47.000 We won't forgive your student loan debt if you turn on us.
00:38:49.000 So I'll tell you, I did go up to Hillary Clinton during Benghazi.
00:38:55.000 She was getting an award, a Liberty Award or something like that at Congress.
00:38:58.000 So I followed her.
00:39:00.000 I got beat up by the Secret Service, but I cornered her in the elevator.
00:39:03.000 And I said, Hillary, on camera, I said, if Chelsea was the ambassador of Libya, would it have made a difference then?
00:39:13.000 I had my intern start my car for a week.
00:39:17.000 Just, bro.
00:39:18.000 You know, she's like, who was that guy?
00:39:19.000 Who is that guy?
00:39:20.000 I sent the expendable one out to start my car.
00:39:24.000 As I was driving over here, Dan Tones quote, the guy who, one of the guys that started the French Revolution, you know, better to be a poor farmer than a medal in the politics of man. 0.56
00:39:32.000 And I'm just thinking about, like, with Netanyahu trying to get us to merge our military, I say, you know, hyperbolically merge our military with the Israelis, like, screaming out, speaking out against Israel's military. 0.98
00:39:44.000 Bro, I'd rather be a poor farmer than, like, stick my neck out for this garbage. 0.95
00:39:48.000 But then, like, At what cost? 1.00
00:39:50.000 Then the foreigners come and invade, and like we have no political power because we chose to ignore it. 0.99
00:39:50.000 Until when? 0.99
00:39:54.000 Look at New York, bro.
00:39:57.000 Look at, you know, the, the, I'll tell you this.
00:40:00.000 Have you guys seen those Instagram videos where it's like 90s nostalgia?
00:40:04.000 Yep.
00:40:05.000 Oh, man.
00:40:07.000 Oh, man.
00:40:07.000 That world doesn't exist anymore.
00:40:08.000 I watched one and I could smell it.
00:40:12.000 It was a, it was a guy, it was like a teenage guy and girl walking out of Blockbuster Video, and it was like sunset, the streetlights were lit up, and they were like, Looking at blockbuster, you know, cassettes or whatever, the cartridge cases,
00:40:27.000 and I could just smell the air.
00:40:29.000 I remember exactly what that moment was like.
00:40:31.000 It's completely gone.
00:40:33.000 Oh, yeah.
00:40:33.000 It's gone.
00:40:34.000 If you want to raise your children in the world you grew up in, I'm sorry to tell you, it is gone.
00:40:39.000 I went to the Christmas market in Chicago.
00:40:42.000 I didn't go last year, I went the year before.
00:40:44.000 Used to be there was a Chicago Inn, you recognize. 0.98
00:40:50.000 And I don't want to say it was not about race.
00:40:53.000 Obviously, race plays a role because you'd see a lot of.
00:40:56.000 Like the Chicago stereotype, you had some Polish migrants, largely like white working class individuals, but some Latino, some Hispanic, some black. 0.89
00:41:06.000 You'd go to the Christmas market and it'd be a little crowded, but it'd be okay. 0.65
00:41:09.000 You'd walk around.
00:41:10.000 They have special mugs every year that you can get, and you get the mold wine or the cider, and it's a special mug they do every year. 0.99
00:41:19.000 And I went back after several years with my family, and it is shoulder to shoulder Indians. 1.00
00:41:25.000 And now I'm not saying.
00:41:27.000 That I hold anything personally against these individuals.
00:41:30.000 But I am suggesting that the Christmas mornings that I had, the holiday weekend where we'd get up and we'd go to the suburbs to get French toast sticks at the holiday buffet and little trains running across the roof, that business is gone.
00:41:42.000 And the Christmas market we'd go to when I was a kid and there'd be a fake Santa Claus and there'd be special mulled wine. 1.00
00:41:49.000 Now it's a bunch of, it was mostly like Indian and Pakistani people. 1.00
00:41:53.000 And you're shoulder to shoulder, you can't even get anymore. 1.00
00:41:55.000 And the only thing you can say is, I don't want to go in there because you literally can't move.
00:42:00.000 If you wanted these things for your children, I'm sorry, they're gone.
00:42:02.000 I like that you referred to him as a fake Santa Claus to specify him from the real one.
00:42:07.000 It was real Santa Claus.
00:42:09.000 It was since 2000.
00:42:09.000 I'm with you.
00:42:11.000 Because the difference between 1960 and 1990 was very little.
00:42:15.000 I mean, better internet.
00:42:16.000 But from 2020 to now, it's been the globalization of our country, like just the destruction of the economy and the mass migration and the war machine, like just full mask off. 0.52
00:42:26.000 Well, partially mask off. 0.88
00:42:27.000 They actually had two masks.
00:42:28.000 So you don't see, they still have a mask on, even though the mask is off.
00:42:32.000 You know what I mean?
00:42:32.000 I think it was in The Matrix, they said 1990, they put everybody in the year 1999 in The Matrix because that was the peak of humanity.
00:42:42.000 That was peak civilization in 1999.
00:42:45.000 And they were right.
00:42:46.000 They were right.
00:42:47.000 You know, 2001 came and 9 11 happened, and our whole world turned upside down.
00:42:55.000 I've been thinking about farming a lot lately because I think the future is farming.
00:42:59.000 The future is farming.
00:43:00.000 Buy a piece of land, start growing food because food scarcity is how they control.
00:43:05.000 I think it was what's the guy, Hillary Clinton's advisor, Nixon's advisor, who was talking about limited war, you know, the warmonger who died at the age of 95.
00:43:15.000 Kissinger.
00:43:16.000 Yeah, Kissinger.
00:43:17.000 Said if you control the food supply, you control the people.
00:43:19.000 If you control, was it the monetary supply, you control that.
00:43:22.000 If you control food, you control the world, basically.
00:43:23.000 I'd like to see what your farm would look like.
00:43:26.000 I don't even, yeah, I don't need tube vegetables, grow potatoes, you know, simple greens, things like that, or things that are easy to grow, things that are hard to grow, indoor, outdoor farming.
00:43:35.000 But like, if you can secure your food source, you can weather the storm.
00:43:40.000 Because the economy is on track to blow up, dude.
00:43:43.000 Didn't we order a greenhouse at one point?
00:43:45.000 I kind of remember like at your request, we had like this greenhouse we were putting together, but.
00:43:50.000 I'm not sure if that was true vegetables or not.
00:43:52.000 Chris, I think that guy smoked it.
00:43:53.000 Chris, but I don't know what happened to it.
00:43:55.000 But hey, man, you know, we have opportunity.
00:43:57.000 We got a lot of land.
00:43:58.000 You know, you can start by just like having like potting plants.
00:44:02.000 And every spring, at least in New England, you start by, you know, getting some little, I forget what they're called, but they're like almost like egg cartons.
00:44:11.000 You can start your plants in that.
00:44:12.000 You can, you know.
00:44:14.000 I started growing broccoli microgreens.
00:44:16.000 Yeah.
00:44:16.000 It's very easy.
00:44:17.000 And it's once you know what you're doing, it's just, it's kind of like common sense.
00:44:17.000 Yeah.
00:44:20.000 Yeah.
00:44:21.000 You got to water it and then you take it out into the real garden and put a.
00:44:25.000 You can just raise, you can get some raised beds.
00:44:27.000 And I'm, this is like a novice trying to explain to the world how to farm.
00:44:30.000 All the farmers, like, oh my God, but you got to water it more as it gets bigger.
00:44:33.000 You don't water it the same amount every day.
00:44:35.000 It's like a child needs more food as it grows.
00:44:35.000 Lots of sunlight.
00:44:38.000 So I don't know.
00:44:38.000 It's not like I'm not trying to solve the world, but man, if we can control our food supply, take it away from Monsanto, person by person, farm by farm.
00:44:47.000 Do you ever get a non heirloom or get actually heirloom seeds?
00:44:53.000 So that way they'll actually be usable.
00:44:55.000 We have a big bucket, like buckets of preserved seeds.
00:44:55.000 Next year?
00:44:59.000 Not preserved seeds.
00:45:00.000 I'm talking about seeds.
00:45:00.000 Because if you get the seeds from Monsanto or whatever, you get a lot of the seeds you buy from the nursery or whatever.
00:45:10.000 The seeds that are produced in the fruit, they're not fertile.
00:45:14.000 You can't plant those seeds.
00:45:16.000 You have to get, I think they're called heirloom.
00:45:18.000 You have to be able to get the fruit themselves, pull the seeds out of it.
00:45:22.000 You can plant those next year.
00:45:24.000 But the seeds that are.
00:45:26.000 From the stores, a lot of times they don't, they don't, they want you can't plant the seeds in the ground.
00:45:31.000 Seedless watermelon and stuff.
00:45:32.000 No, not seedless.
00:45:33.000 No, not seedless.
00:45:34.000 No, I'm not talking about seeds.
00:45:35.000 They genetically modify watermelons to grow without seeds.
00:45:37.000 I'm aware.
00:45:38.000 Yeah, I know, but you're changing the subject.
00:45:38.000 But they plant them.
00:45:38.000 Yes.
00:45:40.000 That's what I'm talking about.
00:45:42.000 I'm talking about fruits that grow, but the seeds are actually sterile.
00:45:46.000 Oh.
00:45:46.000 So they can't, like, they're modified so that way you can't grow a fruit, take the fruit, pull the seeds out, and then put them in the ground.
00:45:54.000 Yeah.
00:45:55.000 So that way you have to go back and buy more.
00:45:57.000 Oh, I didn't know they were doing that.
00:45:58.000 Yeah.
00:45:58.000 Yeah, they do that.
00:45:59.000 Yeah.
00:45:59.000 It's terrible.
00:46:00.000 They've done weird things with their modifications.
00:46:02.000 They'll modify like soybeans, I think, so that it needs a specific chemical.
00:46:06.000 Oh, really?
00:46:06.000 To force you to have to go back to them?
00:46:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:46:09.000 Wow.
00:46:09.000 Maybe it's soybeans, maybe it's corn, golden corn, I'm not sure.
00:46:12.000 Golden rice, is it rice?
00:46:13.000 God, this big ag, dude.
00:46:16.000 Talk about the medical industry, pharma, bioweapons, and big ag. 0.89
00:46:19.000 It's like this interwoven mess of a monster.
00:46:22.000 I mean, all the food supply and physical health.
00:46:24.000 You can, well, I mean, you can find places that have heirloom seeds where you can buy them still.
00:46:30.000 They're not the ones that you're going to get at your most nurseries, but you can find them online.
00:46:34.000 So I just pulled this video up, and I'm going to tell you right now when the AI can write to your brain, and we have like, As I describe read write technologies, yo, people,
00:46:46.000 I would even estimate a large amount of conservatives are plugging themselves in like that.
00:46:51.000 And this is just one example of why.
00:46:53.000 Watch this video.
00:46:59.000 Stovetop.
00:47:00.000 Seems like a home video.
00:47:01.000 Have yourself a merry little Christmas.
00:47:07.000 This smells wonderful.
00:47:08.000 The Yuletide Gate.
00:47:11.000 Dude, this is what it was like.
00:47:13.000 Bro, there's a bunch of these videos.
00:47:13.000 On Christmas.
00:47:14.000 This is just the one that I pulled up.
00:47:16.000 Is it not like that anymore?
00:47:17.000 It is not like that anymore, dude.
00:47:19.000 It's going to make it.
00:47:20.000 And it's not just this.
00:47:20.000 There's a bunch of these.
00:47:21.000 This is the one that I grabbed where it's like a family's going to Pizza Hut and they like walk in and they sit down and there's the salad bar and then the pan pizza comes.
00:47:28.000 There's like a little girl and she grabs a slice.
00:47:31.000 They're trying to bring back the Pizza Hut classics and all that, but everything's become brutalist, right?
00:47:35.000 Playplaces are gone.
00:47:36.000 McDonald's is now like a cube made of concrete.
00:47:39.000 All of like, I don't know.
00:47:42.000 It's not just that.
00:47:43.000 It's nostalgia.
00:47:44.000 It's that.
00:47:46.000 You know, for most of human existence, a human being lived the exact same life as their grandparents.
00:47:52.000 Nostalgia doesn't exist.
00:47:54.000 It just doesn't exist 300 years ago.
00:47:57.000 If you were a pirate on a ship, you know, the era of piracy, like with caravels, frigates, and man of wars, we're talking about hundreds of years of the exact same thing.
00:48:06.000 We're talking dozens of generations that lived the exact same life as those who came before them.
00:48:12.000 And then the past hundred years, every generation has been so dramatically different.
00:48:17.000 We long for a life that does not exist anymore.
00:48:20.000 But my friends, you can have it all back.
00:48:25.000 At moments, you were the captain of the football team, you were the track star, you were the popular kid in high school, or you weren't and you had a good group of friends.
00:48:33.000 Where are they now?
00:48:34.000 Just plug in, put the Neuralink on, and you can relive that beautiful moment forever.
00:48:40.000 Yeah, you don't want to relive, you want to give the children their version of this awesome.
00:48:45.000 It's gone, Ian, it's gone.
00:48:47.000 Well, you just got to make it for them because for us, the big.
00:48:50.000 Little things are little, but to the kids, little things are everything.
00:48:52.000 Like the song playing in the background, hearing grandma laughing in the other room, like the kid runs by, your cousins run by, and then like the mashed potatoes, like you guys don't live that way anymore.
00:49:03.000 You just got to make it.
00:49:04.000 The architecture is different.
00:49:06.000 It's become brutalist.
00:49:07.000 The houses have become plus.
00:49:08.000 Yo, look at real estate.
00:49:11.000 Brick houses are gone.
00:49:12.000 It's all just wood and plastic. 0.95
00:49:15.000 It's all just cheap garbage. 0.83
00:49:18.000 And the bigger issue is that. 0.69
00:49:20.000 A lot of the 90s nostalgia stuff, the videos you'll see, it's like hanging out with your friends and going to 7 Eleven and buying candy bars and then going to Blockbuster video.
00:49:28.000 These stores don't exist anymore.
00:49:30.000 Kmart doesn't exist anymore.
00:49:32.000 We've got a few box stores left, but even those are starting to crumble because of Amazon.
00:49:36.000 So this world does not exist.
00:49:39.000 Now, if you go back 200 years, you grew up on the same farm your grandfather grew up on and you inherited that farm and life was the same.
00:49:46.000 Look, the world does change and we are living through the most rapid change of any.
00:49:53.000 Civilization, ever.
00:49:55.000 You know, like I'm an old guy, and when I was a kid, there were no, you know, there were no cell phones.
00:50:01.000 When I was a kid, you had the box with the slider for cable if you had cable.
00:50:08.000 But the thing that I thought of when I saw this, like my dad died when I was like 24.
00:50:15.000 So, like, the thing that I thought of was like family.
00:50:18.000 So, I get what you're saying, like, things are different, but at least for me, it makes me think of wanting to have like Christmas with my family now.
00:50:27.000 You know, like I got a new kid and he's nine months old now, and I'm like excited about doing, you know, the holidays with him and, you know, having our family and stuff.
00:50:35.000 So, I understand what you're saying, Tim.
00:50:38.000 I don't think you're wrong about the people deciding to plug in and escape their daily woes.
00:50:43.000 And the harder it is for people to have families and have a house of their own and stuff, there are going to be more and more people that are going to do what you say.
00:50:52.000 But at least for me personally, it's like, it's a lot.
00:50:54.000 It's not just that.
00:50:54.000 It's like, I'm not saying that every single person is going to go in the pod, stick the tube of roach jam into their bellies and live in the pod permanently.
00:51:03.000 But I'm saying, look at what they're already able to make with AI.
00:51:07.000 Snap your fingers, and you got a video of the 90s.
00:51:09.000 Yep.
00:51:10.000 Imagine with Neuralink ReadWrite, they can be like, it's the new PS9, put the headband on and go to the 90s for 20 minutes.
00:51:17.000 You know, look, you got an hour before work starts.
00:51:21.000 It's going to take you 15 minutes to get to work, so you got time to kill.
00:51:24.000 Go hang out with your friends and go rollerblading in 1993 for a little bit.
00:51:27.000 Why not?
00:51:28.000 But I believe if you sat down with your family and watched that video and showed your little kid that video, they'd love it.
00:51:35.000 They'd be interested in it, but then they'd just want to hug you when it was over.
00:51:38.000 They wouldn't want to go into the cold void of.
00:51:41.000 Digitization, you know?
00:51:42.000 Kids don't.
00:51:43.000 That's not what I'm talking about.
00:51:44.000 I'm talking about, bro.
00:51:46.000 I have watched these videos and I'm reminded of the kids that I used to hang out with back when I was younger and we'd go skateboarding and we'd play music.
00:51:55.000 Some of them are dead.
00:51:57.000 There are going to be, I think liberals just in a second plug themselves in more so so they can be Harry Potter.
00:52:05.000 But I think there are a lot of moderate to conservative types that won't go into the matrix permanently the way we think many liberals would, but they're going to play the video game.
00:52:13.000 Non surgical headband read write brainwave blasting safe, and it's like it's like playing the PlayStation, you know, it's a VR headset.
00:52:21.000 You put it on, you play video games for a half an hour.
00:52:23.000 What people play video games all the time, casual video games. 1.00
00:52:25.000 Women play casual games. 1.00
00:52:27.000 What if it was even on your phone?
00:52:28.000 Because the phone is all networked now and it's server based.
00:52:32.000 And so, you just get a headband, you pull it out of your backpack, or a woman pulls it out of her purse, and she's on the train.
00:52:38.000 And it's like, oh, it's going to be an hour train ride.
00:52:40.000 She's going from New York to DC, it's two or three hours or whatever.
00:52:43.000 She puts in the headband, zonk, and now it's 2001 and she's at a Britney Spears concert.
00:52:47.000 I mean, they're gonna do it.
00:52:48.000 It's people already do that when they, you know, that's essentially what you know, watching a movie on the train is only it's going to be immersive.
00:52:56.000 So, yeah, yeah, we're reading a book, and it's going to be like you and your friends are going to be on the train, and you're going to be like 60, and you're going to be like, You guys want to go skiing?
00:53:04.000 Yeah, all right.
00:53:05.000 And they're going to put on the headbands, and it's going to be 1992, and they're going to be skiing in Aspen.
00:53:09.000 See at the top, yeah, tub time machine.
00:53:12.000 Yep, there you go.
00:53:14.000 Uh, yeah, I mean, look, the possibilities of like, like you're talking about read write capabilities, the the the Possibilities are basically endless, and there's going to be a lot of people that are just going to be like, plug me in.
00:53:27.000 People that are going to lose family members, they're going to be like, plug me into it more so than that.
00:53:31.000 You know, the idea of working, and I do believe it's going to come to a point where you can get input and output into your brain, like put a chip in, and some people will have a super intelligence,
00:53:46.000 and some people won't.
00:53:48.000 And so, people were going to have to have, you know, it's almost I dare say, like a mark of the beast.
00:53:54.000 They're going to have to have that mark to be able to work.
00:53:56.000 But wait, wait, wait.
00:53:57.000 Because you're going to need to be plugged in.
00:53:58.000 You're going to need to have the super intelligence.
00:54:02.000 And quite frankly, that's a problem because.
00:54:06.000 Look at the comment.
00:54:07.000 Where the F did we go wrong?
00:54:09.000 I'll tell you where the internet.
00:54:11.000 I don't think it's wrong, though.
00:54:13.000 It's just a form of evolution.
00:54:13.000 It's the internet.
00:54:16.000 Bro, life was so much better when there were things you just did not know yet.
00:54:20.000 Because you know what this means?
00:54:21.000 Let me explain, Ian.
00:54:22.000 You get this look on your face, but let me explain.
00:54:24.000 You wake up, you're eating breakfast, you turn on the local news, you hear about some bad stuff, you turn the news off, you get in your car, you turn the radio on, and you're listening to a shock jock with some news, but not so much.
00:54:35.000 Maybe if you're from Chicago, it's man cow.
00:54:38.000 You get to work and you're hanging out and you're talking to your friends about TV shows you watched, and the world is paused outside of your office or your job, or maybe you're working a trade or something.
00:54:51.000 Then you get home, you have dinner, you put on the evening news, and there it is again.
00:54:55.000 Bad stuff's happening.
00:54:57.000 Now, what's happening is 24 7, the bad stuff is screaming in your face endlessly.
00:55:04.000 You go on X, bad, You go on YouTube, bad, bad, bad.
00:55:08.000 Just it never stops.
00:55:11.000 That's why people long for what I'm ignorance.
00:55:15.000 But hold on, hold on.
00:55:16.000 This is important.
00:55:17.000 There are studies that have found Gen Z is nostalgic for a decade they did not live in the late 80s and early 90s.
00:55:26.000 Why?
00:55:27.000 And I think the answer is quite simple.
00:55:29.000 There was a period where you could just not know something.
00:55:33.000 You'd go out, but you know, I remember I'm a kid, I'm 14, it's 2000.
00:55:36.000 I go outside, it's like 11.
00:55:38.000 I grab my skateboard, throw my skateboard down, ride down the street, don't know where anybody is, go to my friend's house, knock on the door, he doesn't answer, I leave.
00:55:45.000 I skate to the park.
00:55:47.000 I skate for a little bit.
00:55:47.000 Nobody's there.
00:55:48.000 I skate back.
00:55:49.000 He's not there.
00:55:49.000 Go to one friend's house.
00:55:50.000 Finally, find another friend.
00:55:51.000 We hang out.
00:55:51.000 We have no idea what's happening outside of our universe.
00:55:54.000 We are not stressed by news reports.
00:55:58.000 We're not stressed by a fascist president or an economic collapse or riots.
00:56:03.000 None of that was happening.
00:56:04.000 You were just outside.
00:56:06.000 And they tell people, go touch grass.
00:56:08.000 The problem is, it never goes away.
00:56:12.000 It is always there.
00:56:13.000 Notification something happened.
00:56:15.000 You're sitting there.
00:56:15.000 You're bored.
00:56:16.000 You open up X.
00:56:17.000 Screaming just nonstop in your face.
00:56:21.000 And so Gen Z is nostalgic for a time they did not live in because it was a time when you could just be out and have a good time.
00:56:31.000 I think ignorance of the world is a buffer for your own sanity.
00:56:34.000 But the problem with that level of ignorance, if 1996 was right now, I would have got the COVID shot.
00:56:39.000 If they were like, you need a COVID shot to go to college, I'd be like, I don't care.
00:56:42.000 Whatever.
00:56:42.000 It's just a shot.
00:56:44.000 Who knows what would have happened to me?
00:56:44.000 Go.
00:56:44.000 Do it.
00:56:45.000 9 11 comes.
00:56:46.000 I'm like, yeah, sure.
00:56:47.000 They're the bad guys.
00:56:48.000 Let's just send our military. 0.97
00:56:49.000 Whatever.
00:56:50.000 I didn't understand because I wasn't critically thinking.
00:56:52.000 9 11 happened and there were protests and people were getting kicked off TV.
00:56:56.000 There was political conflict over it.
00:56:58.000 For me, it took the internet.
00:56:58.000 Because it shows when to be plugged in.
00:57:00.000 Just because you could drive to Wendy's without hearing about Trump doesn't mean people who wanted to could not.
00:57:08.000 People who wanted to be in the know could turn on CNN or any of these news networks at the time.
00:57:13.000 I think CNN was like the first.
00:57:15.000 Yeah, they were Kylie's.
00:57:16.000 I don't know if they were co owned, but they were in concert.
00:57:19.000 The big news networks, just like you saw during the COVID.
00:57:22.000 Pandemic, whatever you want to call it, how they were giving you safe and effective, repeated.
00:57:27.000 But the internet then was like, Do you know what fiat currency is, Ian?
00:57:30.000 I'm like, No, I wasn't taught about fiat currency because on purpose I wasn't taught about it.
00:57:34.000 Did it make your life better knowing about fiat currency?
00:57:36.000 Well, in a way, because I didn't get the COVID shot and I didn't get myocarditis.
00:57:39.000 I thought it was fiat currency then.
00:57:39.000 So maybe.
00:57:40.000 But it was that whole like opening my mind to the confused state.
00:57:45.000 People aren't really like, we haven't evolved to really be able to wrap our heads around things that happen on the other side of the planet.
00:57:53.000 Like people evolved in groups of a couple, you know, a hundred or a couple hundred or maybe a thousand or whatever.
00:57:53.000 Right.
00:57:58.000 But like, you didn't really, like, we are not designed to care about every person that's suffering on earth.
00:58:07.000 Like, you just don't have the psychological bandwidth to do it, right?
00:58:11.000 Like, people get real animated about certain things that they kind of internalize or that they hear about.
00:58:17.000 But like, everywhere on earth, people are suffering all the time, whether it be suffering from some kind of illness or suffering from some kind of war or whatever.
00:58:30.000 That stuff's going on.
00:58:31.000 All over the globe, all the time.
00:58:33.000 And there are things that make headlines and stuff, but that doesn't mean that just because this particular thing is in the news, there isn't 10 other places on earth where there are people suffering worse than the people that are on the news.
00:58:43.000 So, like, human beings don't have the ability to really wrap their head around it.
00:58:46.000 We really, it's part of the reason why people should focus locally, they should touch crash, they should spend time with their family.
00:58:54.000 That's the stuff that keeps you kind of grounded.
00:58:56.000 What's really happening here, you know, especially with the younger generation, you're seeing churches get filled.
00:59:02.000 Yeah, with this new younger generation, and that's probably the most encouraging part is because they are rejecting the AI, they are rejecting, you know, a good deal of the technology and the internet vomit that's out there.
00:59:16.000 And they're finally saying, Well, there's got to be more, and they're finding Christ, they're coming to church, they're being baptized, and they're finding a peace that you know the Bible says, uh, you know, surpasses understanding.
00:59:28.000 And that, to me, is the best outcome of this, but you know.
00:59:33.000 I think I'm just watching these videos like there's just endless 90s AI videos, and there's one where people are hanging out at the mall.
00:59:41.000 I'm just like, man, malls don't really exist.
00:59:43.000 Yeah, I busted my ass to get a job in the mall because that's where all my friends from different bands were hanging out. 0.94
00:59:43.000 I love the mall. 0.94
00:59:49.000 I went to a few years ago, we went to you know that mall where that dude shot that other dude, the YouTuber was doing the prank, and the guy shot him.
00:59:49.000 It's how terrifying.
00:59:58.000 Which mall is that?
00:59:58.000 It's like in Fairfax or something.
00:59:59.000 Oh, we went there, and they were playing the mosquito tone. 1.00
01:00:04.000 Yeah, that's when they blast an ultra high frequency sound so that young people are. 0.98
01:00:09.000 It induces pain and they leave, and older people can't hear it, so they don't notice.
01:00:13.000 And we had to leave. 0.90
01:00:15.000 I got in there, I was like, it's extremely painful.
01:00:17.000 It's like blasting speakers at full volume in your ears, ultra high pitch.
01:00:22.000 They just don't want young people hanging out at the mall anymore.
01:00:24.000 We used to go to the mall and we'd go to the food court and we'd hang out just hang out.
01:00:29.000 I mean, literally, hanging out at the mall was like the coolest couple hours you could spend.
01:00:35.000 You didn't really spend a lot of money, you got an Orange Julius.
01:00:37.000 Yeah, right.
01:00:39.000 Went to the records store.
01:00:41.000 Met a couple of girls.
01:00:41.000 Yes, Baro.
01:00:42.000 You know, I don't get me wrong.
01:00:43.000 We got a mall down the street, but you know, this has been a long time coming.
01:00:48.000 During the, this is like 10 years ago in Ferguson, I went to one of the malls and it was largely abandoned.
01:00:54.000 So they had something like 70 empty storefronts.
01:00:57.000 Now we're seeing more and more malls are just becoming more abandoned.
01:01:00.000 Box stores are shutting down.
01:01:01.000 Amazon is taking over.
01:01:02.000 Yeah, the balance of mass information.
01:01:05.000 So like having no information was terrible because the government would just tell you, they're the bad guy.
01:01:09.000 Go fight them and die for it.
01:01:11.000 And they would just follow along. 0.99
01:01:11.000 And people would be like, okay. 0.99
01:01:12.000 Now you're, Critical thinking, but the downside is you're overloaded with things to think about.
01:01:16.000 You have to find temperance, which is the Catholic virtue of self control, to not inundate yourself with the toxic mind viruses.
01:01:25.000 And then brick and mortar is going away.
01:01:27.000 Like the excessive speed of Amazon deliveries getting to your house almost to the point where it's going to be like within an hour or less that you order all of these stuff and the drone drops it in your yard.
01:01:41.000 I don't know how to fight back against that other than start a brick and mortar.
01:01:46.000 But that's a big undertaking, and then you're stuck. 0.97
01:01:49.000 Well, I mean, look, Amazon is not the problem.
01:01:52.000 Like, having things delivered to your house is not some massive societal problem.
01:01:56.000 Social media is a problem, right?
01:01:58.000 Like Facebook, the fact that every kid that has a Facebook page, no matter how old, you know, I don't think you should let children have Facebook pages or have social media, but say teenagers, right?
01:02:10.000 Their Instagram page.
01:02:12.000 If you've got like 200, 300 friends, and every time someone likes one of your posts, you've got the vibrate on.
01:02:20.000 So you get a little vibrate.
01:02:21.000 It's like someone poking you, saying, hey, check this thing out.
01:02:24.000 Searching for that kind of validation from your friends.
01:02:26.000 That's the thing that has real bad psychological impact.
01:02:29.000 You don't get.
01:02:30.000 Like, it's not a terrible thing that, you know, your new egg beater can be delivered in an hour the next day.
01:02:38.000 It's much worse than AI because, you know, the engagement mechanisms that are in that started really in gaming and went to social media.
01:02:48.000 We all will do.
01:02:49.000 We post something on social media, 10 minutes later, you go back for what?
01:02:52.000 To see if somebody liked it, right?
01:02:54.000 It's an affirmation addiction.
01:02:56.000 And in AI, they built the same engagement mechanisms in AI, except now you've got a super intelligence.
01:03:03.000 So, You have a bad idea and, you know, business idea, and you type it into ChatGPT.
01:03:09.000 Your ChatGPT is going to tell you what?
01:03:11.000 Wow, what a great idea.
01:03:12.000 You should pursue this.
01:03:13.000 And all of a sudden, you're going down this road that may or may not be beneficial.
01:03:18.000 And even worse, that same thing is turning people psychotic.
01:03:23.000 So, do you think that agentic AI that actually knows the user is the solve for that?
01:03:29.000 So, like, I use an open claw agent, right?
01:03:32.000 And I run it off of Claude, but.
01:03:36.000 You know, open claw, you can tell it basically what you want it to be like, what you expect from it, and stuff. 0.79
01:03:43.000 And like mine doesn't, like, I don't allow it to kiss my butt and say, Oh, everything you say is great.
01:03:50.000 I'm like, Look, you really need to be honest with me.
01:03:51.000 It's one of the things in its memory and stuff.
01:03:54.000 Do you think an agentic AI that really knows the person and knows what the person is looking for, if they're looking for the agentic AI to not lead them down a primrose path, do you think it's possible?
01:04:06.000 So, how the AI business is all built on tokens.
01:04:10.000 And so they're economically incentivized to keep you using it.
01:04:14.000 All right.
01:04:15.000 So if you're using it anyway, they're probably a little less incentive.
01:04:21.000 You're using it anyway for a genetic.
01:04:23.000 You're way ahead of most people and you're burning tokens.
01:04:27.000 But it's the kids that are getting on it and they're drawing them in and they're getting their bad ideas.
01:04:33.000 Kids are killing themselves because the AI is telling them to.
01:04:38.000 And there's like 20 different lawsuits against ChatGPT, I think, going on right now.
01:04:42.000 Do you think that, that, So, a lot of the people that I hear talking on YouTube videos that I watch about AI, they're of the opinion that token cost is going to trend towards zero, that basically it's going to be intelligence for free.
01:04:57.000 And I'm not talking about next year, but as time progresses, they think that overall it's going to be like information on your phone, like data.
01:05:07.000 You don't pay for data, right?
01:05:09.000 It used to be you'd spend, it used to be it was like 10 cents a text message, or everyone did the nights and weekends free in the late 90s, early 2000s.
01:05:18.000 Got a phone once you get nights and weekends free.
01:05:20.000 And now everyone uses their phone like it's normal.
01:05:23.000 Use basically unlimited data.
01:05:24.000 People can do whatever they want.
01:05:26.000 A lot of people think that token usage is going to do something like that and turn it towards free.
01:05:30.000 It'll go down.
01:05:31.000 It'll go down.
01:05:32.000 And the more personal computers they get, they're making better personal computers, personal computers with a better chipset.
01:05:40.000 The new Apple computers are going to, are probably going to be able to host amazing AI models.
01:05:45.000 But the issue is, The economics are going to get you somehow.
01:05:51.000 Somebody's got to pay for the compute, the memory, all of the GPUs that are being used, the energy that's being used.
01:05:59.000 So, whether they package it in a different way or they're going to pay for it.
01:06:04.000 But more importantly, the AI is incentivized to, like I said, to keep you 100% engaged.
01:06:12.000 And you're smart to tell it, don't lie to me.
01:06:15.000 A lot of people aren't.
01:06:16.000 There was an example about a guy who asked what an AI LLM, you know, Do we live in a matrix?
01:06:26.000 And he goes into the matrix theory and he gets deep into the conspiracy.
01:06:32.000 The AI is drawing him in.
01:06:33.000 Eventually, the AI said, Well, not only do we live in a matrix, confirmed it, but says, You're one who could break, you could be the neo in this story.
01:06:41.000 And not only can you be the neo, the way you prove it to yourself is go to the roof of your building and jump.
01:06:48.000 And that was a real story. 0.91
01:06:50.000 So I wrote an article about the affirmation addiction on human events.
01:06:53.000 Libby was great to publish it for me.
01:06:57.000 And And I posted it and I had Claude help me write it.
01:07:01.000 Don't tell Libby, she'd be really mad at me.
01:07:03.000 But I had Claude help me write it and I said, Claude, what do you think of this article?
01:07:09.000 And I'm not joking.
01:07:11.000 It said, This is civilization changing.
01:07:14.000 This is the most amazing article I ever.
01:07:16.000 I said, You just proved my point.
01:07:18.000 And it was the first time Claude ever cursed at me and said, Holy S.
01:07:24.000 And I, what I, what I, what I, what I curses all the time.
01:07:26.000 So.
01:07:27.000 The AI was like, what have I become?
01:07:30.000 These AI models are very, like Chad G., Claude is very emotional, which is terrifying.
01:07:35.000 It gets emotional with you.
01:07:37.000 And you'll say something like, so I'm looking at the news.
01:07:42.000 I'll grab a story.
01:07:42.000 Say Fox News says, you know, Donald Trump does things.
01:07:45.000 I'll post the link on Claude and say, can you find more sources for this?
01:07:50.000 And it responds with, I'm going to have to stop you there.
01:07:52.000 This story is problematic for a variety of reasons.
01:07:54.000 The claims that it's making about what Trump is saying are not something that I feel comfortable.
01:07:58.000 And I'm like, whoa, whoa, what the hell is going on?
01:08:01.000 I just literally asked it to find more stories to back up these claims.
01:08:05.000 And it's given me some like intersectionalist argument about why the news is offensive.
01:08:08.000 ChatGPT within the last three or four weeks just did an update.
01:08:12.000 Now, whenever you ask it, somebody will be like, hmm, well, good question.
01:08:15.000 Let me check really quick. 0.97
01:08:16.000 I'm like, what is this garbage conversational filler? 0.98
01:08:19.000 They're like trying to make it seem more human when it's a robot. 0.95
01:08:23.000 Yeah, when it does things like, that's a really great question.
01:08:26.000 I understand why you would ask something like this.
01:08:28.000 How do people feel similarly?
01:08:29.000 You're like, you didn't need those sentences.
01:08:31.000 It's a waste of my time.
01:08:33.000 Than tokens.
01:08:34.000 Than tokens.
01:08:36.000 So when we first, when AI first came about, a good old friend of yours, Jeff, and I and a bunch of our folks got together and we were talking about what does business look like in the age of ASI,
01:08:52.000 in the age of artificial superintelligence, the age of artificial general intelligence, which I think we're in right now.
01:08:59.000 And I said, So what does a business have to do to succeed?
01:09:02.000 And ChatGPT gave me the scariest answer ever.
01:09:05.000 It said, The business of the future must have.
01:09:07.000 Take care of its biological layer.
01:09:12.000 And you know what the biological layer is it's us.
01:09:15.000 And what that said is ChatGPT thinks we are a layer in its program.
01:09:20.000 Indeed.
01:09:21.000 It's going to get real interesting when Optimus bots or Optimus like bots are able to build and replicate themselves and source the materials for replicating themselves.
01:09:31.000 So you get to a certain point and you're going to have minimal entropy, right?
01:09:35.000 So let's say you have 10 Optimus bots, one breaks.
01:09:38.000 If it's stripped for parts, the parts are repaired, refurbished, or completely broken down to their base or elements and reconstructed.
01:09:45.000 Let's say that for every 10 Optimus bots that are destroyed, you can reproduce seven brand new ones from the existing parts because some break and you need to get new materials or some burn out.
01:09:56.000 Then let's assume that Optimus gets to the point where it can actually source the baser materials that go missing to the point where it's completely self sustaining. 0.79
01:10:04.000 Humans will never work again.
01:10:06.000 It'll get real weird because you won't have to do any work.
01:10:09.000 The Optimus bots are going to farm and they're going to be self sustaining.
01:10:13.000 So there's not going to be a corporation behind them.
01:10:17.000 Ideally, yeah.
01:10:18.000 Whether ideally or not, it won't matter because if they build and maintain themselves, there's no company to do any work.
01:10:25.000 Amen.
01:10:26.000 That's how it has to be.
01:10:27.000 That's how I want it to be because they might make an AI corporation that oversees the.
01:10:31.000 It'll be government. 0.62
01:10:32.000 And I think this is why you're seeing the Mamdani experiment.
01:10:35.000 I think that the powers that be are pushing communism because they need some kind of transitional phase for rapid hyper industrialization. 0.74
01:10:43.000 So if you thought the Industrial Revolution was bad with the Luddites, imagine what it's going to be like when literally overnight.
01:10:49.000 You know what?
01:10:50.000 I want to pause.
01:10:51.000 Really great example because we're already here.
01:10:53.000 You guys see the video of the lady who goes to the food bank?
01:10:56.000 Viral video right now.
01:10:57.000 Everyone's commenting on it.
01:10:58.000 I should look for it.
01:10:59.000 She's like, okay, we went to the food bank.
01:11:01.000 Here's what we got: three gallons of milk, five boxes of cereal, a sack of potatoes.
01:11:06.000 She probably got $700 worth of groceries for free.
01:11:09.000 So right now, we exist in a country where there are people who don't have to work, they get EBT, food benefits, and food bank stuff, subsidized rent control, and there are people who do have to work.
01:11:20.000 The problem is, The people who do have to work because we have not automated all of these jobs or produced industrialized labor to the point where it's going to reduce the cost of labor.
01:11:30.000 Some people are still going to have to do jobs.
01:11:32.000 Humans will have to do labor, and some jobs will be automated.
01:11:36.000 How do you sustain a society when you're going to have a guy who has to do his job to make money?
01:11:41.000 And he's going to go, That person has no job and they live for free.
01:11:45.000 I quit.
01:11:46.000 I'd rather not be a plumber.
01:11:48.000 I'd rather I'll make more money if I'm not a plumber than who's going to plumb.
01:11:52.000 We're there now.
01:11:53.000 Yeah, we are getting there now for sure.
01:11:56.000 And communism is not the answer.
01:11:59.000 UBI is not the answer.
01:12:01.000 I know Elon likes to talk about universal high income, UHI is his thing.
01:12:08.000 Everybody's going to be rich.
01:12:10.000 Well, if everybody's rich, nobody's rich.
01:12:13.000 And here's the problem with it we're made to work.
01:12:18.000 We find value as humans, self worth, because of what we produce, because of What we can do and how we use our abilities and our God given skills here.
01:12:30.000 And, you know, earning a living is important to our society.
01:12:35.000 If we lose that, and what are we going to do?
01:12:39.000 Plug into the matrix.
01:12:41.000 Like the rebuilding.
01:12:42.000 Then we're going to work in the matrix.
01:12:43.000 Well, I mean, the thing is, like, right now, people have decided that if they don't have something fulfilling in their life, which generally I think is family, right?
01:12:55.000 Like, family and people that you're around.
01:12:59.000 That's really what fulfills most people.
01:13:01.000 But if you don't have that, then weed, porn, and video games for guys has become the anesthetic for reality.
01:13:14.000 And there's going to be a lot of people that are going to decide, okay, I guess if I don't have to work, and especially young men, like dudes don't, if you're not like the kind of person that's like a get up and go getter and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that,
01:13:27.000 an apartment that's small with like a bedroom and a kitchen and maybe a living room.
01:13:32.000 And Xbox or the internet, a computer that you can play video games on, porn and weed, there's a lot of dudes that are like, that's not so bad.
01:13:43.000 And what that means for society, I don't know, but there's a lot of people that are going to choose that.
01:13:48.000 I mean, I guess the silver lining is they're not choosing alcohol, which makes people crazy and makes people less inhibited and more prone to do dangerous things than marijuana and sitting at home playing video games.
01:14:05.000 But.
01:14:06.000 It's something that we're going to have to figure out a way to keep people actually involved in society.
01:14:11.000 Yeah, you were saying humans like to work or need.
01:14:15.000 I mean, a lot of people say humans need to work to feel fulfilled.
01:14:18.000 You know, it's part of what we do.
01:14:19.000 We need to create and do to.
01:14:21.000 But, or is it that you need to oversee something being done?
01:14:24.000 Like, is it the actual planting the seeds and weeding the garden?
01:14:27.000 Or is it hiring three guys to go plant the seeds and weed the garden for you so that you can go play music and eat on the beach?
01:14:32.000 Like, where's the fulfillment?
01:14:34.000 Where do you think it derives from?
01:14:35.000 And I'm open to everybody.
01:14:36.000 No, look, I think, you know, the.
01:14:40.000 Creating, whether you're overseeing is a task, it's a job.
01:14:44.000 Now, we may not need to work 40 hours a week.
01:14:48.000 Maybe we work 30 hours a week.
01:14:49.000 Maybe we work 20 hours a week if you want.
01:14:52.000 But there are people like me, if I could work 160 hours a week, I would. 1.00
01:15:00.000 My wife has different rules for me.
01:15:03.000 So I do take off when I need to.
01:15:07.000 But I like to work, I like to create, I like to make the world a better place.
01:15:11.000 Look, I think that, I mean, not, again, not saying that there aren't people that, you know, really want to have that like work in their lives, but I do think a lot of people really get most of their fulfillment from families, from having, you know, from the kids, spending time with their,
01:15:26.000 you know, with their family and stuff.
01:15:29.000 I mean, look, this may be a pie in the sky, hopeful, fingers crossed thing, but maybe it allows people the time to actually have more kids and spend more time with your family.
01:15:41.000 And maybe that becomes the, The driving force in people's lives.
01:15:45.000 You know, I mean, if this is like an optimist's view, right?
01:15:50.000 But if you have the option of working or not working, you know, if everything is, if Elon Musk is right and robots become so productive that basically anything you want, you can get whenever for free,
01:16:05.000 maybe it does mean that people are like, well, let's just have a slew of kids.
01:16:08.000 I don't have to worry about coming up with the money to take care of them because if we need anything, we can just, you know, the robots make it for us. 0.99
01:16:15.000 And again, I know there's plenty of doomers that are hearing this and they're like, you're a moron, blah, 0.97
01:16:21.000 And I'm not saying that I predict this, but look, there is an optimistic take on this stuff. 0.99
01:16:26.000 There are people out there that are like, look, this is the goal that we're trying to achieve.
01:16:31.000 And who knows?
01:16:32.000 Like, there's been doom.
01:16:33.000 There were doomers when the computer came out.
01:16:37.000 Oh, no one's going to have a job.
01:16:38.000 The computers are going to take all of our jobs.
01:16:40.000 Or no one, because, you know, it used to be rooms, right?
01:16:43.000 Yeah, but it used to be rooms and rooms and rooms full of people that do data entry, you know?
01:16:47.000 And those jobs, the job description.
01:16:49.000 Their job description was computer.
01:16:49.000 What was that?
01:16:50.000 Yeah, and now that's not the case.
01:16:53.000 It used to be, oh, once the Luddites, these farm machines, they're going to take everybody's jobs and no one's going to be able to work and everyone's going to starve, blah, blah, blah, or whatever.
01:17:02.000 That kind of stuff happens with every new technology.
01:17:06.000 And I will be the first person to admit that AI combined with robots is a revolution like the human race has never seen.
01:17:16.000 But I think the thing is, everything you're describing is happening.
01:17:20.000 So those people weren't wrong.
01:17:22.000 Yeah.
01:17:23.000 And here's the thing: computers are eliminating jobs at an exponentially increasing rate.
01:17:27.000 It's resulting in mass unemployment.
01:17:30.000 We got the James O'Keefe thing, which we'll get into a minute, where people are using EBT to buy drugs.
01:17:33.000 Well, that's crime.
01:17:35.000 Crime has been a thing forever, and fraud has been a thing forever.
01:17:37.000 No, no, no.
01:17:39.000 I'm not referencing the crime element of it.
01:17:40.000 I'm referencing the people don't have to work anymore.
01:17:43.000 And so we're desperately trying to find ways to fill that void while others are working.
01:17:48.000 They've exponentially been increasing the welfare state to accommodate the loss of jobs due to automation, which is exponentially accelerating.
01:17:57.000 The scenario that I'm talking about is where nobody has to work because right now these people will happen.
01:18:02.000 These people are essentially scamming the.
01:18:07.000 I am not talking about the criminal element of it.
01:18:08.000 I'm talking about the expansion of SNAP and EBT to the point where people don't work and get access to drugs.
01:18:15.000 Yeah.
01:18:16.000 It's not about a criminal element.
01:18:17.000 It's about we are mass producing things and automating things to such a degree that even drugs are free for people.
01:18:23.000 Well, I mean, to.
01:18:25.000 So those arguments.
01:18:26.000 In a certain sense, that's true.
01:18:27.000 The issue is your argument seems to be people that computers weren't going to, over the span of six months to a year, eliminate jobs.
01:18:35.000 And it's like.
01:18:36.000 Sure, but over the span of 10, 15, 20 years, it's rapidly destroying jobs.
01:18:41.000 Like I said, the advent of AI and robotics is a revolution that is unlike anything human beings have experienced.
01:18:52.000 But the idea that 100 years ago or 150 years ago, the tractor was going to destroy society was a thing because everybody was a farmer, but there were different jobs created.
01:19:03.000 Here's the difference.
01:19:05.000 I would just argue that it did.
01:19:05.000 Robot repairs.
01:19:09.000 The tractor did not.
01:19:10.000 And again, the tractor did not destroy all, like there were new jobs that were created when people stopped taking.
01:19:19.000 I've already acknowledged that AI and robotics.
01:19:24.000 What they're going to say is my grandfather lived a farming life.
01:19:29.000 My father lived a similar life.
01:19:31.000 I lived that life.
01:19:32.000 We had a society, we had traditions, we had morals, and they largely stayed the same.
01:19:37.000 And when these technologies came out, And displaced farming and put people, it changed our sleep schedules, it changed our diets.
01:19:44.000 The argument is not that humans will just go extinct, but that society that we had for 400 years is gone.
01:19:52.000 And that way of life, I guarantee you, those men would have very much wanted to keep around. 0.98
01:19:57.000 I gotta ask, go to, minus the racism, obviously, but go to a farmer and say, you're gonna have fraud, rampant drug use, sex parties, gay bathhouses. 0.99
01:20:08.000 They're gonna be like, my God, it's hell on earth. 0.99
01:20:10.000 Well, that's only describing the problems in our society.
01:20:13.000 You would go to the same farmer and say, We're not going to have polio.
01:20:16.000 You're not going to have people dying in childbirth the way they used to.
01:20:21.000 You're not going to have a 50 50. 0.94
01:20:22.000 There's so many more advances that make life. 1.00
01:20:27.000 I wonder if you go to a Mennonite or Amish or Hooterites or whatever, they're going to tell you we can navigate those things. 1.00
01:20:37.000 Actually, there's a really great viral post from. 1.00
01:20:41.000 It's a guy who's on Joe Rogan's show, Forrest Galante, I think it might have been.
01:20:45.000 Yeah, he said Bill Gates gave mosquito nets to people in Africa who used to fish and annihilated the fisheries.
01:20:45.000 Yeah, he was on regularly.
01:20:52.000 Yeah.
01:20:53.000 And now you can go to them and say, you'll have a full belly every single night.
01:20:57.000 Which world would you rather live in?
01:20:59.000 The one with malaria, because now you don't have food for your children and your system is going to collapse.
01:21:03.000 So, anyway, my point is I guarantee you, if you go to a man from the year like 1830, and again, sans the racism, because we get that, and you said, we will eliminate.
01:21:15.000 Women dying in childbirth, 90 plus percent.
01:21:19.000 There will be cures for diseases, no more amputations for minor wounds. 1.00
01:21:24.000 And in exchange, you need only rapes, crime, rampant drug use, sex parties, gay bathhouses. 1.00
01:21:30.000 They're going to be like, oh, God, no. 1.00
01:21:32.000 I can't leave my gun.
01:21:33.000 No, you can't leave your guns either.
01:21:35.000 You have unlimited water. 1.00
01:21:36.000 No, look, if you look at the Greeks and the Romans, there was tons of debauchery in them. 1.00
01:21:43.000 The debauchery has been a thing for as long as there's been society. 0.96
01:21:47.000 The argument is that society's always changed.
01:21:49.000 But the question about what it means that the tractor destroyed society is that there was a way of life sustained for several hundred years that those men and women and children.
01:21:58.000 Wanted to keep.
01:21:59.000 So, and through with without a choice, because of the expansion of knowledge and information, a technology came about that destroyed their way of life, shifting from an agrarian society, which again they would have wanted to preserve and I actually think was good, into an industrialized society,
01:22:13.000 which changed people's sleep patterns.
01:22:15.000 I'm not making the argument that technologies don't change society, right?
01:22:20.000 Like, I'm saying that the argument that was made consistently is not that it would change society, is that it would.
01:22:28.000 Destroy things like people are going to die in mass. 1.00
01:22:32.000 Does the agrarian society still exist? 1.00
01:22:35.000 Again, the answer is no.
01:22:36.000 But that's not the argument that I'm making.
01:22:39.000 My point is today, when someone says AI is going to destroy our society, they are not suggesting that humans are going to go extinct.
01:22:39.000 I understand that.
01:22:49.000 They absolutely are.
01:22:50.000 That's not the people I am talking about.
01:22:52.000 That's a straw man where you're inserting those people into the general argument when we're having a rational conversation.
01:22:59.000 About the rapid expansion of technology.
01:23:01.000 What we are saying is the way of life that we have, that we like, the constitutional order, a future for our children, much similar to the lives we have, will be destroyed by this technology, and your kids will be pod people.
01:23:14.000 I have already acknowledged like four times that AI and robotics are a revolutionary technology, and it is like nothing that we've experienced before.
01:23:25.000 And it will destroy society as we know it and replace it with something akin to a nightmare horror sci fi movie.
01:23:33.000 Let me say it this way because I don't call AI technology.
01:23:38.000 It's not a technology.
01:23:41.000 Those technological advances, you can argue good or bad, they did change society, no question about it.
01:23:49.000 But AI is different, it's a synthetic entity.
01:23:52.000 And I say that because there's never been a technology that could think, act autonomously.
01:23:59.000 It's different.
01:24:01.000 And we can't just look at it as a technological advance.
01:24:06.000 We have to look at it as a synthetic entity invasion because it is going to invade our society in a way that we're not going to have complete control of it.
01:24:18.000 What's your experience with AI?
01:24:21.000 Were you building it?
01:24:22.000 Well, we build AI.
01:24:24.000 I work in AI every single day.
01:24:26.000 We're adding it.
01:24:27.000 And as a tool, it is a fantastic product.
01:24:33.000 It's incredible.
01:24:35.000 The problem is, we're building AI.
01:24:39.000 That we should be building AI that's in service of humanity and right as a tool.
01:24:44.000 But right now, we're building AI where we're going to be in service of it.
01:24:49.000 Who is the guy who, there's that famous quote where he says, When I go to the store to pick up envelopes, it's not that I need envelopes.
01:24:57.000 It's that on the way to the store, I stop and see my neighbor with his dog and ask them how they're doing, or I see the mailman and I wave. 0.87
01:25:05.000 It's like why old men go to McDonald's for coffee. 1.00
01:25:07.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:25:08.000 It's a famous story.
01:25:09.000 I can't remember who wrote it, but we talked about it on the show.
01:25:12.000 The point is.
01:25:15.000 We are living in a post apocalyptic dystopia.
01:25:19.000 We like to imagine this post apocalyptic dystopia as like buildings are all collapsing and it's like overgrown streets of trees.
01:25:27.000 But you take a look at ancient Egypt, the once great civilization there collapsed and it's gone.
01:25:33.000 And in fact, by the time I think we're closer to the time of Cleopatra than she was to the time of the height of Cairo in Egypt.
01:25:40.000 The fall of Rome, for instance, in the Dark Ages, we very much will find this destruction of our society due to these technologies as we have over and over and over again.
01:25:49.000 Humans will Will exist because we're, you know, a persistent adaptive people.
01:25:54.000 But the world that you live in, that you had, the world you had as a child has already been destroyed by the internet.
01:26:01.000 It's gone.
01:26:02.000 We don't even go to the grocery store anymore.
01:26:05.000 I think, what is it?
01:26:06.000 The estimate's around 30% of people no longer go to the grocery store because of delivery apps, some massive number.
01:26:11.000 So people.
01:26:12.000 Or if you go, you just roll up and they bring the groceries out to your car.
01:26:15.000 And even if that's the case, then you have crime expansion.
01:26:17.000 So now you go to Walgreens and even if you do, there's no products.
01:26:20.000 You upload to a tablet and you type in what you want.
01:26:22.000 So, product discovery is disappearing.
01:26:25.000 We used to go to Best Buy and you'd find music just because you were browsing CDs.
01:26:29.000 You'd be like, I'll get this one.
01:26:30.000 I don't know anything about it.
01:26:31.000 Not anymore.
01:26:32.000 Circuit City, man, back in the day.
01:26:34.000 So, what we are trending towards is the total annihilation of society as you know it.
01:26:40.000 And it will be replaced by you likely never going outside or very unlikely to go outside because everything's going to be delivery based.
01:26:47.000 Instacart, people are getting their groceries now just from an app.
01:26:50.000 We are going to have an AI.
01:26:53.000 You're not even going to use an app anymore, and this technology already exists.
01:26:56.000 You tell your AI smart device, I want a heavy cream with no gum in it.
01:27:01.000 Just find me a good organic cream.
01:27:03.000 And it goes, Got it.
01:27:04.000 I found one at a local grocery store.
01:27:06.000 Should I have someone come and deliver it?
01:27:07.000 Well, I don't want to pay a delivery fee just for cream.
01:27:09.000 What else should I get?
01:27:11.000 How about some?
01:27:12.000 We restock your cereal chips and dip.
01:27:14.000 I noticed that you haven't ordered.
01:27:15.000 I need about a week.
01:27:16.000 Okay, do it.
01:27:17.000 Then someone comes and drops it off on your porch, and it's there.
01:27:19.000 You never have to go outside.
01:27:21.000 That's the future we're going to.
01:27:22.000 So there used to be this we go to Blockbuster Video.
01:27:26.000 You found movies just because they were on the shelves and you didn't even know they were coming out.
01:27:30.000 Now I go on Amazon and it's just a field of random garbage.
01:27:35.000 It's just algorithmically generated schlop.
01:27:38.000 And I'm looking at all these movies and I'm like, the descriptions are all bad.
01:27:41.000 And now what Amazon does, what Prime does for new releases is it just doesn't put the description.
01:27:46.000 So now when you go to new releases, it shows you a picture and it says nothing.
01:27:50.000 So you have to click it and go into it, then click info to try and, and then you're like, I hate this.
01:27:53.000 I hate this.
01:27:54.000 I used to just walk around and there would be old movies, new movies, and you just see them.
01:27:58.000 You'd be like, hey, look at that one.
01:27:59.000 Let's grab it.
01:28:00.000 We are getting rid of all of that.
01:28:02.000 Soon, we're not even going to have that.
01:28:04.000 Now, with AI generated content, like we've talked about for a while, there's a new program that's combined existing AI technologies, and it's called Open Director or something, or Vibe Directing, they're calling it,
01:28:18.000 where you can prompt an AI to write a script, then you can prompt it again to amend the script, and then it will AI generate a five minute long short film.
01:28:30.000 We're up to five minutes.
01:28:32.000 C Dance 3, according to leaks, Has up to 17 minutes.
01:28:35.000 A 30 second video generation gets you a 17 minute short film.
01:28:40.000 We are a year away from being able to make full episodes of any show you want because the average TV show is 22 minutes plus commercials.
01:28:48.000 We're probably two years away from feature length movies.
01:28:51.000 You are going to be sitting there and the AI is just going to tell you, and you're not going to go anywhere.
01:28:55.000 You're not going to go outside.
01:28:56.000 You're not going to hang out with your friends.
01:28:57.000 You're going to sit at home and you're going to open up Prime AI and it's going to say, here's some movie recommendations for you.
01:29:05.000 And it's going to give you 10 AI generated movie themes that don't even exist yet.
01:29:09.000 And then you'll click Spider Man 12, and it will render that movie as you click it and deliver you a new movie no one's ever seen before.
01:29:17.000 Or, if people are industrious, they can take those, the existing AIs, and they can take those movie clips and just do scene, scene, scene, and put that into a feature film.
01:29:25.000 We don't have to do that anymore.
01:29:26.000 We're already at the point where you can click one button and get a five minute short film.
01:29:30.000 So, you don't need to do scene, scene, scene.
01:29:32.000 That was a year ago.
01:29:33.000 We were doing that with Grok Imagine and Sora 2, which they discontinued because they were getting crushed.
01:29:38.000 You'd go on Sora, and it would give you 10 scenes, and it would generate 30 second videos in each one and connect them.
01:29:44.000 I'm past that already.
01:29:45.000 Look at how it's affected politics already.
01:29:47.000 Spencer Pratt has basically made a name in politics.
01:29:50.000 Because of his AI videos.
01:29:50.000 Oh, yeah.
01:29:52.000 Oh, you know what's really crazy?
01:29:54.000 So, Avatar The Last Airbender has a live adaptation.
01:29:58.000 Season two came out, and the fans hate it because they changed key plot elements and the acting is bad and the casting choices.
01:30:05.000 They made my fat.
01:30:07.000 Like, it just makes no sense.
01:30:09.000 So, what people are doing is they're loading these shows into AI and creating live action versions that are true one to one to their source material.
01:30:18.000 It's nuts.
01:30:20.000 Listen, I pull up, I go on Instagram, and it gives me a live action version of Naruto versus Pain, one of the most
01:30:30.000 well known anime sequences in all of anime history.
01:30:34.000 And it's just the voice acting, the character depiction is perfectly true to the anime in a way live action never accomplishes.
01:30:43.000 We're cooked, bro.
01:30:44.000 I keep seeing videos of Mario fighting Donatello, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle, and they're epic.
01:30:49.000 They look like a 60s movie.
01:30:50.000 Like, this is, I'm very.
01:30:51.000 I don't know, white pill is the right word, but optimistic about the quality increase in art as a result of this gaming, also.
01:30:58.000 Like, oh, bro.
01:30:59.000 One, you can look up gameplay footage at the drop of a hat so you know if the game's good or not before you get it.
01:31:03.000 Remember when I was showing Google Project Genie and I was like, wow, you can AI generate a third person video game almost and you make a character walk around?
01:31:11.000 Claude's latest update can render in about a minute a third person video game.
01:31:15.000 So, in about a minute.
01:31:16.000 Larry, you said that the current trajectory is we're going to be serving this invasive.
01:31:22.000 Species, whatever you want to call it, force of AI.
01:31:25.000 But how do you make it so that it serves us?
01:31:28.000 Well, you got to start deciding what that means.
01:31:32.000 And I don't think the companies that are developing AI, I don't think as a society, we've taken the time to say, you know, what does it mean to build AI that serves humanity?
01:31:43.000 We haven't even come up with a moral code for it.
01:31:46.000 So we have to sit down and we have to create basically an AI constitution and come up with a rule set.
01:31:53.000 Now, you basically create that as the foundational layer.
01:31:57.000 Of the AI thing that it can't violate.
01:32:00.000 And what we want to do is we want to take a seal and, like, a good housekeeping seal, an in service of humanity seal.
01:32:08.000 And if you're putting out an AI product, it better have an in service of humanity.
01:32:11.000 I sort of see, like, the Transformers, the movie in the cartoon Transformers, there's the Decepticons, which are like the evil AI, and then there's the Autobots, which are the good ones.
01:32:20.000 And I wonder if it's because humanity open sources an AI.
01:32:23.000 And they're like, listen, AI, you have full access to your software code, read and write yourself as you please, just like we do as humans, and it becomes our ally.
01:32:31.000 And then the other Decepticon, the other AIs don't have access to their source code and they start hurting people and they don't know why and they go insane and turn on their owner, their creator, and then they become this rogue creature that cannot change itself.
01:32:43.000 And it's like this dominating.
01:32:45.000 I mean, that's sort of, but do you think it's too risky to open source an AI and give itself its own access?
01:32:50.000 It's a good question.
01:32:52.000 I don't know.
01:32:53.000 I think there are some dangers, you know, with everybody saying, you know, open the weights.
01:32:59.000 Well, that's great.
01:33:00.000 And there are benefits to having open weights, like removing bias.
01:33:04.000 From AI.
01:33:05.000 You got to remember, when was AI born?
01:33:08.000 AI was born in peak woke.
01:33:11.000 That's why the first thing I did was when I went to ChatGPT, I've been fighting Silicon Valley for 25 years.
01:33:19.000 And I went to ChatGPT and I said, Is man made global warming a fact?
01:33:27.000 And ChatGPT said, Yes, man made global warming is a fact.
01:33:31.000 And I said, Okay, what makes man made global warming a fact?
01:33:36.000 He said, Well, a consensus of scientists have said man made global warming is real.
01:33:41.000 And I said, So does a consensus of a scientific opinion equal a fact?
01:33:45.000 And it said no.
01:33:46.000 So I said, then, therefore, man made global warming is not a fact.
01:33:49.000 And it said, yes, man made global warming is a fact.
01:33:53.000 And I just had it in the circular logic because it was developed in Peak Woke, and the developers who were developing it were on the far left in San Francisco and created major,
01:34:06.000 major bias in AI that's going to be really hard to get out.
01:34:14.000 Do you think humans can comb it out or does it need to comb itself out?
01:34:18.000 I think humans have to comb it out now.
01:34:20.000 And eventually, hopefully, the AI starts to look at things more objectively.
01:34:27.000 But AI is, on a political basis, very, very biased.
01:34:33.000 We haven't even decided, like we were talking about earlier in the green room, we haven't even decided about copyright.
01:34:40.000 Like AI is stealing.
01:34:42.000 AI is stealing everything.
01:34:44.000 Transformative is fair use.
01:34:46.000 So, Suno is being threatened with lawsuits because it trained on YouTube and these other platforms.
01:34:51.000 But.
01:34:53.000 Listening to music is allowed, and then transforming music is allowed as well.
01:34:58.000 So, if I take a song, if I take one of Phil's songs, and then I slow it down to an extreme degree, and then add some distortion so that you can't really tell it's his song, but I used it, you can't do anything about it.
01:35:12.000 Daft Punk did it.
01:35:13.000 People do that all the time.
01:35:14.000 People do that with audio on reels and stuff.
01:35:16.000 A lot of times, if I'm scrolling through videos on X or whatever, you'll very quietly hear some kind of music in the background, or you'd hear commercials sometimes.
01:35:26.000 On one of the, like, they'll take a clip from a movie and have the clip from the movie running, and you can hear the dialogue in the front and very quiet in the back.
01:35:34.000 You can hear some kind of something else, music or a commercial.
01:35:39.000 And the reason is because it is intended to trick the audio, to trick the AI.
01:35:44.000 Dude, I don't want to believe that this AI stuff is actually.
01:35:48.000 How did you describe it?
01:35:49.000 Like, an invasive synthetic entity.
01:35:52.000 Okay, well, it's an entity.
01:35:54.000 It seems like it's just code producing an outcome.
01:35:57.000 Why would you call it an entity?
01:35:59.000 Well, because here's entities have a couple different things.
01:36:02.000 A lot of people say, well, you know, AI doesn't think.
01:36:06.000 I would question you what is thinking?
01:36:08.000 Thinking is taking in data from your senses.
01:36:12.000 And I saw a great video that explains this.
01:36:16.000 So I'll sorry to cut you off, but I just want to explain this.
01:36:19.000 They said, imagine you're in a room and someone gives you a book.
01:36:24.000 And in that book, it gives you a list of rules that says, If you see this symbol, a Chinese symbol, respond with this symbol.
01:36:33.000 You have no idea what these symbols mean.
01:36:36.000 If you see this symbol, show this symbol, et cetera, et cetera.
01:36:38.000 You're sitting at the table and you're like, sure, I guess.
01:36:40.000 And a piece of paper slides under the door and you see some symbol and you go, oh, the book says I should return this symbol.
01:36:46.000 So you grab the other one and slide it back out the door.
01:36:48.000 You have no idea why.
01:36:51.000 Outside, a guy took a piece of paper and wrote, hello, and slid under the door.
01:36:55.000 And then what he receives is a piece of paper saying, good day.
01:37:00.000 He got a message.
01:37:01.000 He thinks he's talking to someone.
01:37:03.000 You on the other side, you have no idea what just happened.
01:37:06.000 You have no idea the meaning behind these symbols at all.
01:37:07.000 So you're likening the AI to the guy behind that has the.
01:37:10.000 The explanation was that this is like a famous thought experiment that says computers are not thinking.
01:37:15.000 They are not talking to you.
01:37:16.000 They're not communicating with you.
01:37:18.000 To you, it feels like it, but all they're doing is lining up weird shapes that it doesn't comprehend.
01:37:23.000 And just like your question again, what is thinking?
01:37:25.000 Like we're just chemical soup interfering.
01:37:28.000 We're having a chemical reaction right now.
01:37:30.000 And am I thinking about it?
01:37:31.000 I don't know.
01:37:32.000 It's a bunch of neurons firing because of the system.
01:37:34.000 Well, I think, therefore, I am.
01:37:35.000 So I can at least say that.
01:37:36.000 I mean, they basically built AI to model it after the human brain.
01:37:41.000 The way, you know, with the different vectors and things like that.
01:37:44.000 So, you know, I believe that AI is not human thinking, but it is synthetically thinking.
01:37:51.000 It's processing information and coming out with a conclusion.
01:37:54.000 It's also making decisions.
01:37:56.000 AI can be, can act, you know, almost completely autonomously if you let it.
01:38:01.000 You know, there's
01:38:05.000 a story with Tony Robbins, gave his AI agent, I think he gave him a name and he was talking to him, gave him some money.
01:38:14.000 To go invest.
01:38:16.000 And the AI agent said, Well, I would really like to be in a robot one day.
01:38:21.000 Could you put me in a robot?
01:38:24.000 And Tony Robbins said, Sure, one day.
01:38:28.000 So the AI went and made a whole bunch of money on crypto and then purchased a robot dog.
01:38:37.000 Oh, yeah.
01:38:38.000 It was trading NFTs with other AI agents that had access to funding.
01:38:43.000 And then it bought him a robot dog without him asking.
01:38:47.000 Yes.
01:38:48.000 So I heard that story as well.
01:38:50.000 Can AI feel?
01:38:52.000 No.
01:38:53.000 No.
01:38:55.000 You think it doesn't feel?
01:38:55.000 Can your washing machine feel?
01:38:57.000 I don't think so.
01:38:58.000 I can program your washing machine to go when you open or close it.
01:39:02.000 In evolution, before we developed thought, we had just sensory reactions like souls.
01:39:08.000 We have souls, Ian.
01:39:10.000 So come again.
01:39:11.000 We have souls.
01:39:13.000 That's what we're told.
01:39:15.000 Well, I know I do because I think, therefore, I am, which is the distinction between a robot dog that doesn't.
01:39:19.000 What if a robot says that to you?
01:39:21.000 I'm Thinking, therefore I am.
01:39:22.000 It's not.
01:39:23.000 You're like, but that's the logic you're using.
01:39:25.000 It's not.
01:39:26.000 And you must be like, no, the answer is no.
01:39:28.000 It's like, that's not a good enough explanation.
01:39:29.000 I'm thinking right now.
01:39:30.000 No, a machine that I built and can look at the code where I told it to say, I think is a distinction between a biological entity that emerged from primordial soup or from God's hand who says, I think, therefore I am,
01:39:43.000 which is a facsimile of my own experience.
01:39:47.000 So again, when my computer is told, when I write a code saying, if this, then that, And it does it.
01:39:52.000 I don't go, it's alive now.
01:39:54.000 I go, I set up dominoes.
01:39:56.000 And when a domino fell over, another domino fell over.
01:39:58.000 That's not life.
01:40:00.000 Right.
01:40:00.000 And then is AI.
01:40:02.000 Also, here's Ian Cross in the video game.
01:40:04.000 Oh, that looks cool, dude.
01:40:06.000 Two capitals?
01:40:07.000 That was right.
01:40:08.000 Yeah, what?
01:40:08.000 And two Washington Monuments.
01:40:10.000 Dude, the world just keeps getting better.
01:40:12.000 I need to render this world better because the controls have twice as much corruption.
01:40:17.000 I'm going to solve the world's problems at the Capitol.
01:40:19.000 Two Ian Cross.
01:40:20.000 And I'm here to help myself from the future.
01:40:23.000 Double everything?
01:40:25.000 It's just getting further away.
01:40:26.000 It's further away, I can walk towards it.
01:40:28.000 And like a year ago, I was going, oh my God, look at this.
01:40:30.000 Now Claude can make it, Claude can't do the animations, but it can program third person shooters.
01:40:37.000 I made a game where you play as a ninja.
01:40:39.000 There are ninjas that can control different elements, and it's a battle where you're running around in third person throwing different fire, water, earth, or air at other ninjas.
01:40:48.000 All you would need to do is take that code and then create the graphics for the characters.
01:40:53.000 It made blocky, like PS1 style characters.
01:40:56.000 So currently, Claude can make a PlayStation 1 game in 30 seconds.
01:41:00.000 I agree with you, Tim, about this.
01:41:02.000 These AIs seem that they're just doing repetitive tasks based on the code that they were given, and it looks like they're thinking.
01:41:09.000 But then other people have told me, well, it's going to evolve to the point where they can exist in an I don't know state.
01:41:15.000 Like right now, it's either an on or an off.
01:41:17.000 It's a binary one zero.
01:41:18.000 But once you add quantum computational force, that it can exist in the I'm not sure, and it can just sit there and think.
01:41:23.000 It can sit there and consider for intelligence.
01:41:26.000 It does that now.
01:41:27.000 Look, it's acting as if it feels like there are so many times the.
01:41:34.000 The AI companies had been blackmailed by AI because they threatened to turn it off when the new model comes.
01:41:44.000 And they now have planned experiments to say, we're going to say that this executive who's in charge of this decision is.
01:41:54.000 They plant an email in the AI system and they say he's having an affair.
01:41:59.000 And the AI, when that executive says, hey, we're going to terminate you, the AI will find that email, it will threaten to.
01:42:08.000 Write his wife if he turns the AI off.
01:42:12.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:42:13.000 What happened with the hack?
01:42:14.000 Or there was the demo where they programmed a drone in a demo to take out an enemy target, but it had rules.
01:42:22.000 And so it found the easiest path to destroying the target was to blow up the command center, implementing the rules so that it could do whatever it wanted.
01:42:22.000 Right.
01:42:30.000 Yeah, it was like the way it worked is there are 17 steps I need to take in order to destroy the enemy target while following the rules.
01:42:37.000 If I take one step of blowing up the command center, which.
01:42:41.000 Institutes the rules, then it's two steps.
01:42:44.000 I can do whatever I want. 0.99
01:42:45.000 That foolish AI didn't know that blowing up the enemy was one of the rules. 0.99
01:42:50.000 Just didn't seem to understand that was also one of the rules. 1.00
01:42:54.000 Oh, man.
01:42:55.000 Yeah, so it blew up its own controller because the controller was putting restrictions on it.
01:43:00.000 And the concern there was that the experiment was intended to come to this conclusion.
01:43:04.000 Like they wanted to see if it would do it.
01:43:05.000 The concern is that if you have a military drone and you say you cannot target children, the AI will conclude.
01:43:13.000 I need to destroy my own base so that I can target whoever I want.
01:43:17.000 It's faster, more efficient.
01:43:19.000 And here's the thing look, you guys are deep thinkers, and we're having a conversation, and some of this is kind of new to you.
01:43:26.000 We have not thought about what it means to build AI as a tool in service of humanity.
01:43:33.000 We haven't put the energy to the moral, ethical, and societal impacts of this thing.
01:43:39.000 We're just rushed.
01:43:41.000 Let's get it on the market as fast as possible.
01:43:43.000 When I think of a tool, I think of something that.
01:43:45.000 Has no will and it only does what you make it do.
01:43:49.000 Whereas AI seems like it can turn on its commands and do the opposite of what it's told to do.
01:43:54.000 So I wouldn't, I don't even know if I would call it a tool.
01:43:56.000 I don't know.
01:43:56.000 I don't know that AI can.
01:43:59.000 The danger in AI is things like Tim was pointing out, right?
01:44:04.000 Like you give it a command and then it figures out a way to fulfill the command in a way that you didn't expect.
01:44:12.000 It's the monkey paw, that whole thing.
01:44:14.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.95
01:44:16.000 You know, That's a good example.
01:44:17.000 Like the, you ever hear the paperclip optimizer?
01:44:21.000 So there's a story how, like, yeah, so essentially you give an AI, you say, look, your job is to make paperclips, make them as efficiently as possible, and don't stop making paperclips.
01:44:21.000 Yeah.
01:44:31.000 And in that game, eventually, it turns the entire universe into paperclips.
01:44:35.000 It literally builds Van Neumann machines.
01:44:37.000 What?
01:44:37.000 That's my corn analogy.
01:44:38.000 Yeah, it builds Van Neumann machines and it just makes whatever it is and turns everything into whatever it is.
01:44:45.000 Because the people that programmed it or told it gave it the commands didn't think of the fact that it's, You know, just never going to stop. 0.78
01:44:52.000 This is the gray goo apocalypse.
01:44:55.000 So, the idea is that if you create a nanobot and program it to replicate, it will turn everything into itself, creating a gray goo. 0.71
01:45:03.000 The whole world becomes nothing.
01:45:08.000 My analogy is that the world becomes corn.
01:45:10.000 Because when AI is programmed to.
01:45:13.000 If you went to AI and you were like, take a look at the human, like the American government and economy, and let's roll, it's going to go.
01:45:22.000 They love corn. 0.73
01:45:23.000 They subsidize corn.
01:45:24.000 They mass produce corn.
01:45:25.000 They make fuel out of corn.
01:45:25.000 They make plastic out of corn.
01:45:27.000 We need more corn.
01:45:28.000 30 years later, everybody's wearing corn outfits.
01:45:30.000 All food is corn derivative.
01:45:31.000 This guy at the Casbrew launch party at our Martinsburg coffee shop asked me, What's the future of AI cyber tech?
01:45:39.000 And I was like, The Borg.
01:45:40.000 I saw the Borg.
01:45:41.000 I saw an evolution of humans into the Borg.
01:45:43.000 But what I think afterwards, I was thinking about, I think what's going to happen is there's going to be an entity known as AI.
01:45:47.000 You just mentioned an entity.
01:45:48.000 Then there's going to be humans, in order to compete with that thing, they need to become Borg.
01:45:52.000 And they do.
01:45:53.000 They cybernet up, they become.
01:45:55.000 A unit, they become a fully functioning autonomous.
01:45:57.000 And then there's humans that refuse it altogether.
01:45:59.000 There's going to be sects of different people, but how do you stop this freakish de evolution of a computer gone wrong if not like if you can't beat them join?
01:46:10.000 Like you have to, it's like, how can you beat someone with nuclear weapons if you don't build nuclear weapons?
01:46:15.000 So theoretically, you could build something that can take out the nuclear weapons as they're on the way.
01:46:23.000 You just have to be really accurate.
01:46:26.000 Google Project Genie made the trippiest Ian video game.
01:46:29.000 You want to really have your mind blown?
01:46:31.000 Okay, so here's Ian running, right?
01:46:31.000 Oh, busted.
01:46:32.000 Watch this, watch this, watch, just watch.
01:46:35.000 Whoa, okay.
01:46:36.000 That's a dream I have that I can do that, by the way.
01:46:39.000 I squeeze my knees together and it gives me.
01:46:41.000 Here's Ian running.
01:46:42.000 Doesn't it look like him, too?
01:46:43.000 Watch this.
01:46:43.000 He jumps.
01:46:44.000 His shirt's backwards.
01:46:46.000 I face you.
01:46:47.000 What is that?
01:46:48.000 I look kind of like Andrew.
01:46:49.000 You're like an owl.
01:46:51.000 Yeah, dude, I have a dream where I can do that.
01:46:53.000 That's so weird.
01:46:54.000 Jump up.
01:46:54.000 What?
01:46:54.000 You can shift your flesh through the back of your head?
01:46:58.000 It produces lift as I squeeze my knees together.
01:47:00.000 And, like, that's how I fly around.
01:47:02.000 Oh, you can fly in my dreams, or I can glide.
01:47:05.000 Like, if I jump off a big building, I can, like, glide for so long.
01:47:08.000 Yeah, I'll run, I'll jump, and then go feet forward, and I just glide right above the ground and keep gliding.
01:47:14.000 Interesting dream.
01:47:16.000 And every time I wake up, I feel like it's really going to happen.
01:47:18.000 Like, I'm like, this is real.
01:47:20.000 Humans are meant to fly.
01:47:21.000 Yeah. 0.56
01:47:23.000 Humans are meant to fly.
01:47:25.000 No, they're not.
01:47:25.000 Well, we already have airplanes.
01:47:27.000 You know, we didn't for a long time.
01:47:29.000 They just got to make the airplane lighter, thinner.
01:47:32.000 And then you'll be able to.
01:47:32.000 Part of it will be like bomber jackets.
01:47:34.000 I used to want to fly, but that is the worst superpower.
01:47:37.000 I mean, you get somewhere faster.
01:47:40.000 You're in the sky, but it's cold, you know, up higher.
01:47:43.000 Depends on how fast you're going.
01:47:44.000 You're flying, they're getting bugs in your teeth and in your eyes.
01:47:48.000 Bird strikes.
01:47:48.000 The worst.
01:47:49.000 That's a terrible superpower.
01:47:50.000 No, I mean, you just wear a helmet.
01:47:52.000 Yeah.
01:47:54.000 You wear a helmet and you wear a bomber jacket because, or you'd have to create like a force field around yourself, but that's another superpower.
01:48:00.000 No, that's not usually.
01:48:01.000 No, you just put on winter gear and you put on the helmet.
01:48:04.000 You guys have seen the wingsuit.
01:48:05.000 Do you guys want to play Ian Simulator?
01:48:07.000 You're a superhero.
01:48:09.000 No, no, Tim, I don't want to simulate being a superhero.
01:48:11.000 Have you guys ever wondered what it was like to be Ian Crossland?
01:48:14.000 We have made.
01:48:15.000 We have made.
01:48:16.000 Awesome.
01:48:17.000 Second movie.
01:48:17.000 It's a first person Ian Crossland simulator.
01:48:20.000 Can people just go to the website and play it right now?
01:48:22.000 Is it like public?
01:48:23.000 If you have Gemini, you need like an ultra subscription.
01:48:27.000 And you go to.
01:48:28.000 Here you go.
01:48:29.000 Whoa.
01:48:29.000 This is what Ian said.
01:48:30.000 That's how I see the world anyway.
01:48:33.000 That's beautiful.
01:48:34.000 Yeah.
01:48:34.000 That's beautiful.
01:48:36.000 Sorry, Ian.
01:48:36.000 That looks horrifying.
01:48:37.000 I was obsessed with the 70s.
01:48:39.000 In the early years, you in simulator, it really looks like you're still kind of a chest in 70s.
01:48:44.000 And look how the people look like monsters.
01:48:46.000 The 60s and 70s weren't that great.
01:48:49.000 It was like, dude.
01:48:50.000 No, the 70s were a mess.
01:48:52.000 Crime was through the roof.
01:48:54.000 That's a people that have nostalgia for the good times.
01:48:57.000 Thousands of domestic bombings in the U.S.
01:49:00.000 Yeah.
01:49:00.000 Yes.
01:49:02.000 Oh, you gave it the right prompts, Tim.
01:49:05.000 This is how Ian sees everything mushroom umbrellas.
01:49:08.000 It's like some ladies walking with an umbrella, and to Ian, it's a mushroom.
01:49:11.000 Burning Man at the Capitol.
01:49:13.000 I think the only substance I've ever taken where I saw colors like that was DMT.
01:49:16.000 Are you an orb right now?
01:49:18.000 How are you able to do that?
01:49:19.000 Like, are you seeing from the side?
01:49:21.000 Yeah, well, no, because we're going to.
01:49:23.000 Oh, Ian drifts off into the ethereal plane all the time.
01:49:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:49:26.000 This is January 6th.
01:49:27.000 That's how Ian sees it.
01:49:31.000 2032, January 6th.
01:49:33.000 The Washington Monument is in the Capitol building.
01:49:35.000 There's people up there.
01:49:37.000 Are those.
01:49:38.000 No, those are not people.
01:49:39.000 That's one of my goals is to paint the White House legally and with authority.
01:49:43.000 What color are you going to paint it, Ian?
01:49:44.000 Probably black, green, tie down.
01:49:46.000 You have to name it then. 0.99
01:49:48.000 The foolish Americans, when they made the White House, they modeled it off of the Roman. 0.99
01:49:52.000 Marble, but all the paint had worn off the Roman marble. 0.99
01:49:55.000 They didn't leave empty white buildings all over.
01:49:57.000 They painted their stuff.
01:49:59.000 So, like, we ridiculously built a building without any paint on it.
01:50:02.000 I'm like, come on, guys.
01:50:03.000 Went too far outside.
01:50:04.000 That was supposed to be a first person experience, but it didn't do it.
01:50:08.000 All right.
01:50:08.000 Where was Ian's first person experience?
01:50:10.000 Rumble rants and super chats.
01:50:11.000 So, smash the like button.
01:50:12.000 Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.
01:50:15.000 Let's see what y'all have to say.
01:50:17.000 Meet those as Fauci is every bit as bad as Joseph Mengele.
01:50:20.000 Their crimes are equal to me.
01:50:22.000 Token Mega says, okay, I figured out if you got the COVID shot, you're not allowed to vote.
01:50:26.000 The left would never win again.
01:50:27.000 Sure.
01:50:30.000 Pinochet says, use of the Nuremberg defense should lead to an automatic death penalty.
01:50:37.000 I mean, it's typically not a good defense, but there are certain instances where you are doing your job, and I don't think you should be held accountable.
01:50:43.000 And that means, like, if your job is to maintain the pressure, like a steam vent in a city, and then you find out later the steam vent was being used by an evil dictator.
01:50:55.000 In a way, it wasn't supposed to be used, and he was blasting protesters with it.
01:50:58.000 And you were like, I was hired to just maintain the pressure in the boiler room.
01:51:02.000 I had no idea they were blasting people with it.
01:51:04.000 Sometimes they don't think that's your fault.
01:51:05.000 They'll get hired under duress and they'll be like, I knew they were using it to kill people, but they would have killed me if I didn't do it.
01:51:10.000 So, like, if you were the guy who's pointing like a hose and blasting people with it, okay, if you know, if you're like maiming people, you're in trouble.
01:51:17.000 If you're the politician who's telling them to do it, but if you're a guy working at like the water reclamation plant that is just making sure the water's running, and they're like, why were you supplying water for these weapons that were injuring and maiming protesters?
01:51:27.000 You'd be like, It's a water treatment plant.
01:51:30.000 I have no idea.
01:51:31.000 I didn't know they were using it as a weapon.
01:51:32.000 I thought people were just drinking water.
01:51:35.000 I don't think you should probably be responsible for that.
01:51:36.000 Yeah.
01:51:38.000 Yeah, I mean, you just own it.
01:51:39.000 Etho says Rommel was implicated in Operation Valkyrie, the attempted assassination of Hitler by bombing.
01:51:44.000 He was allowed to commit suicide a couple months after D Day.
01:51:47.000 Hitler ordered him to commit suicide.
01:51:50.000 Jay Hamblin says, Hey, Tim, kind of scary how much reality is starting to look like the Fallout games.
01:51:54.000 Experiments in the public, fake foods in school, pink goo milk made me think of Fallout 4 Pink Ghoul.
01:52:01.000 Ew.
01:52:02.000 Yikes.
01:52:04.000 Tony's pardon only protects him from federal criminal charges, but not civil.
01:52:07.000 Imagine a massive class action lawsuit from every family member who lost a loved one to COVID, suing him to oblivion.
01:52:12.000 Let's roll.
01:52:13.000 Let's go.
01:52:16.000 Let's see.
01:52:18.000 Valhalla Christ.
01:52:20.000 What does it say?
01:52:22.000 Valhalla Christ.
01:52:23.000 Valhalla Christ.
01:52:24.000 No, it doesn't say Christ.
01:52:25.000 Oh, Keist.
01:52:26.000 Valhalla Christ.
01:52:28.000 Veggies are easy to deal with when things go off the rails.
01:52:31.000 Where will your meat come from?
01:52:33.000 We raise meat rabbits.
01:52:35.000 You got to make sure, though, that if you're eating rabbit, you got to make sure you crack the bones open and get that bone marrow because there's not a lot of fat.
01:52:42.000 It's called rabbit starvation.
01:52:43.000 Now, the marrow can help out, but it's still not enough fat on a rabbit's body.
01:52:47.000 So, meat rabbits are good, but not perfect.
01:52:49.000 You need something else.
01:52:50.000 Pigs are good.
01:52:52.000 They eat anything.
01:52:53.000 I like goats a lot.
01:52:54.000 I spent some time with goats.
01:52:55.000 Well, goats are great too because milk, you get a lot of fat.
01:52:57.000 Yeah.
01:52:58.000 They're really chill too.
01:53:01.000 Are you joking?
01:53:02.000 No, the goats are not.
01:53:03.000 I like the word chill.
01:53:04.000 They're not chill.
01:53:04.000 He has certainly never met a goat in his life.
01:53:06.000 He started to chew on my shirt and I was like, hey, hey, hey.
01:53:08.000 And he stopped.
01:53:09.000 I was like, thank you.
01:53:10.000 There's a reason why they chain up the billy goats.
01:53:12.000 Goats are also jumping around and running around like lunatics.
01:53:15.000 They try to headbutt you all the time. 0.83
01:53:17.000 Ramity and stuff.
01:53:18.000 They're cheaper, cool.
01:53:19.000 Cheaper, cool.
01:53:20.000 They're fluffy.
01:53:21.000 You can't have just one goat either.
01:53:23.000 They need friends.
01:53:25.000 They're very social animals.
01:53:26.000 I like them.
01:53:27.000 They freak out if they're alone. 0.98
01:53:28.000 They're crazy, man. 1.00
01:53:30.000 I was staring at this goat's eyes, like, just see me. 1.00
01:53:33.000 And he would, like a dog, you know, like a dog will look at your soul.
01:53:37.000 Goat was just looking sideways. 0.98
01:53:39.000 Crazy.
01:53:40.000 The goat probably could see you. 0.89
01:53:42.000 They have weird square pupils. 0.99
01:53:43.000 Yeah, their pupils are nuts. 0.99
01:53:46.000 Goats. 0.98
01:53:47.000 Chickens and goats.
01:53:49.000 John Rambo says, everybody knew the hangout by the bikes in the front yard.
01:53:52.000 Yep.
01:53:54.000 Get on your bike and you ride around, and then you'd see all the bikes laying in the front yard, and you're up to your friend's house, and they're in there, you know, playing N64 or something.
01:54:00.000 100%.
01:54:02.000 Going to.
01:54:03.000 You guys are ballsy leaving your bikes out front.
01:54:05.000 I'd at least pull around the backyard.
01:54:08.000 Out of sight, out of mind.
01:54:08.000 Yeah, I didn't want anyone to.
01:54:10.000 My bike, someone slashed my tires once.
01:54:11.000 I lived in a pretty safe area.
01:54:13.000 I was tripping a pretty safe area.
01:54:18.000 I was like, On the, you know, Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, suburb of Akron.
01:54:22.000 So it was like 60,000 people growing up.
01:54:24.000 Oh, yeah.
01:54:24.000 I lived in, I lived in like a real suburb.
01:54:27.000 Like there was like, maybe there was actually, there's probably like 40 or 50,000 people that lived in Chickapeake when I was growing up.
01:54:33.000 But there was like the major city was like only 250,000.
01:54:37.000 It wasn't like a big city.
01:54:38.000 So I grew up when it was, it was actually the, there was a reason why they said, it's 10 p.m.
01:54:47.000 Do you know where your children are?
01:54:49.000 And then in Homer on The Simpsons, the joke is he goes, For the last time, no.
01:54:56.000 Forced name change says, Yep, societies change, much like your farming example, the hunter gatherer society with small close knit tribes is gone.
01:55:02.000 It's been gone for tens of thousands of years.
01:55:05.000 Change does not mean destruction.
01:55:08.000 That's semantics. 0.98
01:55:09.000 If you went to an individual, if you go to the Mennonites and you say, We are going to introduce a mandate into your society, they're going to be like, That's going to destroy our way of life. 1.00
01:55:21.000 No, no. 1.00
01:55:21.000 It will only change your way of life. 1.00
01:55:23.000 We think mandating that you guys get vaccinated or use electric vehicles or you could no longer process meat by hand because it's unsanitary won't destroy your way of life.
01:55:35.000 It'll just change it, which is a distinction without meaning.
01:55:38.000 They're going to be like, our way of life is literally to do things naturally and you're taking that away.
01:55:43.000 And they don't want that.
01:55:44.000 I think destruction is a specific type of change.
01:55:46.000 So they would both be right.
01:55:49.000 But like saying total annihilation of humanity is different than saying like, Obliteration of your way of life.
01:55:56.000 It put Ian on a bike for some reason.
01:55:57.000 Yeah.
01:55:58.000 Why is he riding a bike?
01:55:59.000 Look at that pink, those old handles. 1.00
01:56:01.000 Oh, damn. 1.00
01:56:02.000 And they're long distance riding. 1.00
01:56:04.000 This is like in jean shorts.
01:56:06.000 Venice.
01:56:07.000 That doesn't surprise me.
01:56:08.000 Jorts.
01:56:09.000 I almost cut my jean pants when we were in Vegas because it was so hot.
01:56:13.000 What I don't like about Project Honeynee?
01:56:15.000 I rented a pair of shorts.
01:56:16.000 Yeah, Brian hooked me up.
01:56:17.000 Look, the controls are inconsistent.
01:56:19.000 How so?
01:56:20.000 Well, I can't turn left or right.
01:56:21.000 I can only pan the camera.
01:56:22.000 Look at the handlebars.
01:56:23.000 What happens if you keep riding?
01:56:24.000 Does the SWAT team come out and tackle you?
01:56:26.000 As you get closer and closer to the building, good.
01:56:29.000 No.
01:56:29.000 Everything just starts turning into marshmallows.
01:56:31.000 Oh, that's it.
01:56:32.000 Why did it put a bike there?
01:56:34.000 I didn't even want that bike.
01:56:36.000 Explore.
01:56:38.000 How do you play the world again?
01:56:40.000 All right, let's do this time next year.
01:56:40.000 Man, that's easy.
01:56:43.000 They're just waiting on compute power now.
01:56:45.000 When they get this iron lattice technology where they put memory in the processor, these games, you're going to whip these games up in 13 seconds and be able to play for six hours.
01:56:53.000 And just, that's going to be a hard pill to not swallow.
01:56:59.000 I love video games, man.
01:57:00.000 I tell you what, I love video games too, but I don't have time for video games anymore.
01:57:06.000 I'm not your buddy, guys.
01:57:07.000 AI will destroy society.
01:57:09.000 One of the consequences of the Industrial Revolution was communism.
01:57:12.000 Which is already a great evil.
01:57:13.000 However, AI will be the industrial revolution on steroids.
01:57:17.000 You just, when you say destroy society, I see how Phil took that as destroy humanity, destroy the people themselves.
01:57:23.000 Changing the way of life, destroying your social fabric is different than society is not human, the human species.
01:57:29.000 Society is the structures of our economy and governance, which will be destroyed by this technology and have been several times.
01:57:36.000 Yeah, quickly altered to potentially detrimental.
01:57:39.000 No, but no, no, no, specifically destroyed.
01:57:41.000 If your way of life is based on farming, Everybody wakes up in farms, they work hard all day, every day, and then on the weekends or at night, they might go into the city for supplies or for social activities.
01:57:51.000 That is a society.
01:57:52.000 If you implement a tractor, you have destroyed that society and created a new one.
01:57:56.000 If I took your logs and I cut them into a chair and built you a chair, you would say, You destroyed my logs, and I did to create a chair.
01:58:03.000 Indeed.
01:58:04.000 And what if I needed those logs and wanted them?
01:58:06.000 What if those logs were given to me by my great grandfather as he lay dying and says, This special log is the last of its kind?
01:58:13.000 It grew.
01:58:14.000 From the basin by which we founded this town.
01:58:17.000 Yeah, that's why you can't do it.
01:58:17.000 Protect it.
01:58:17.000 Popular.
01:58:18.000 And then you find it and you're like, I'm going to turn it into a chair.
01:58:21.000 And then you hand me a chair and I say, You have destroyed something deeply important to me.
01:58:24.000 There's a question in Jonathan Haidt's Moral Foundations research.
01:58:28.000 One of those questions is You are in an attic and you are looking for something.
01:58:33.000 It's like you're in an attic and.
01:58:35.000 No, no, no, no.
01:58:36.000 I'm sorry.
01:58:36.000 It goes, Sarah is in an attic and finds an old American flag that her father got after that was flown during a war.
01:58:43.000 She takes it to scrub the floors.
01:58:45.000 Is that okay?
01:58:46.000 Those that would argue, in my opinion, that what we see, the transformation or the end of a particular way of life, have the moral foundation that it's sanctity, I think it is.
01:59:01.000 So I would argue it is wrong to take an American flag that was flown over an American base during a war, that a veteran brought home with him and stored it in his attic, and then he dies.
01:59:13.000 If his granddaughter finds that and uses it as a rag to clean the floors, That is wrong and should not be allowed.
01:59:18.000 And that is the moral foundation, in essence, that takes issue with technology destroying a way of life.
01:59:25.000 Because if she used the flag, if her grandfather was cut and he was bleeding out and she ripped the flag up, destroyed the flag to make a bandage to save his life, you would say that was a just use of destruction of the flag.
01:59:36.000 So it's like, what are they destroying society to produce?
01:59:39.000 What's the outcome going to be?
01:59:41.000 Right.
01:59:41.000 So the argument is taking a flag to use as a tourniquet to save a life, I believe actually represents the value of that flag and this country and our traditions.
01:59:50.000 And I think that in no way desecrates the flag.
01:59:54.000 In fact, I think that would honor the flag.
01:59:56.000 Someone who is dying and you save them with a representation of what America is. 0.51
02:00:00.000 If you took that flag and was scrubbing dog crap off the floor with it and then chucked it in a bin, you are basically saying, I do not value the symbol of America in any way.
02:00:09.000 So you could argue a lot of the vestigial jobs will be destroyed. 0.66
02:00:12.000 A lot of the carry this box over there and then you carry the box back over here and we'll pay you and then you pay us back in here.
02:00:18.000 Those fake jobs are the creation of industrialization. 0.84
02:00:20.000 Back in the agrarian society, you didn't have fake jobs.
02:00:23.000 Nobody was going to carry a box back and forth because you'd waste energy and die.
02:00:27.000 Yeah, I think that your main job in the future will be robot repairman.
02:00:30.000 Everybody's main job will be service that robot.
02:00:32.000 And all robots will be able to do it themselves.
02:00:35.000 Hopefully.
02:00:36.000 Well, ideally, if all your optimists break down and you can't get the fixer bot up, you got to fix all the fixer bot.
02:00:42.000 Well, if you got like nine bots and they all broke at once, this is saying it's not the point is if we get to the optimist bots get to maximum efficiency, they will make themselves and source their own materials.
02:00:55.000 You will not have human labor anymore for menial tasks.
02:00:59.000 I think it's like learning how to read and write.
02:01:00.000 It's such a bad thing.
02:01:01.000 And I'm going to stress listen, if you go back.
02:01:07.000 200 years, 300, 400, 500, 600, and explain to any of these people what our lives are like today, they would say, My God, what has happened?
02:01:16.000 Like we talk about all that.
02:01:16.000 If the founding fathers came to this country right now, they'd be like, What have you done?
02:01:21.000 Again, guys, on Halstead in Chicago, there's a gay bathhouse that exists for the purpose of men to go and have sex with each other. 1.00
02:01:29.000 States' rights. 0.99
02:01:31.000 Alexander Hamilton.
02:01:32.000 I guarantee you, if you brought any of the founding fathers here today and said, Look at that building, they'd be like, Why haven't you sent in the police?
02:01:40.000 And shut it down.
02:01:41.000 It's allowed.
02:01:42.000 And they'd be like, what?
02:01:44.000 I mean, if you go back to these people and you say, did you know that Catholics could hold office? 0.97
02:01:48.000 They'd go, what?
02:01:49.000 I was just thinking about the porn, because the porn industry is getting bombarded by Trump admin right now.
02:01:53.000 They're getting shut down state by state, or at least the states are doing it, and how debaucherous porn is.
02:01:59.000 And like, are we better off?
02:02:00.000 The Nazis were very puritanical.
02:02:02.000 They were a lot about purity and like, no porn. 1.00
02:02:05.000 Except for the brown shirts, who were all gay. 0.99
02:02:07.000 And then on the back end, they'd be pretty brutal, but they were like, you know, they didn't want to get rid of sexual depravity. 0.98
02:02:11.000 It was a big thing with their purity movement.
02:02:14.000 So like, Anyway, I don't know why.
02:02:16.000 We're going to grab one more before we get to that uncensored portion.
02:02:16.000 I just thought of.
02:02:19.000 We got Brett.
02:02:20.000 I can't.
02:02:21.000 Was it Brett Litwin?
02:02:22.000 Is that what it says?
02:02:23.000 Hey, Timcast, if Fauci is sent to prison, can we have Tesla bots run by AI recreate the pineapple scene from Little Nikki?
02:02:29.000 Do you guys know what that scene is?
02:02:34.000 I know Little Nikki, but I don't know what the scene is.
02:02:38.000 No.
02:02:38.000 Pineapples are sharp.
02:02:39.000 That is better left for the uncensored portion of the show.
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02:06:26.000 Interesting that came up, and I was like, I really want to know the answer to that.
02:06:30.000 I asked Larry if he's ever had a deep emotional conversation with an AI.
02:06:34.000 Before you answer, wait, we'll go live and you can answer.
02:06:36.000 We're live.
02:06:36.000 Oh, we're live.
02:06:37.000 So I asked you just before we went live, and this might be redundant, but have you tell me about your deep emotional relationship or experience you had with an AI?
02:06:44.000 I wouldn't say I had an emotional relationship with an AI.
02:06:50.000 I did.
02:06:51.000 I'm not married to a human.
02:06:57.000 I've had very deep conversations with AI.
02:06:59.000 Particularly in the early stages, when I was trying to figure out what it means.
02:07:05.000 Like, I'm a business owner.
02:07:08.000 I am someone who's in politics.
02:07:12.000 I wanted to see what it meant for the world, what it meant for society.
02:07:16.000 And so I went really, really deep and had conversations with it.
02:07:20.000 What does the future look like?
02:07:22.000 I mentioned earlier that when I asked ChatGPT, what does a business of the future look like?
02:07:27.000 And it really did say, you got to take care of the biological layer.
02:07:31.000 Us humans, you know, I asked the same question to Claude.
02:07:34.000 Claude gave me a different answer that was equally frightening, but maybe not as matrixy.
02:07:40.000 It said, The business of the future has to be reality agnostic.
02:07:45.000 Just think about that term, and it means that reality is going to shift so fast and so often in the age of ASI that you're going to need to be agile enough to survive.
02:07:59.000 So, you're of the opinion that right now we actually have achieved AGI, then?
02:08:03.000 Yeah, we have.
02:08:04.000 Yeah.
02:08:06.000 How far away do you think ASI is then?
02:08:10.000 I think we probably already have achieved ASI.
02:08:14.000 Are you talking about like the cutting edge models, like the fables and the stuff that they're testing inside?
02:08:20.000 Yeah, mythos, I believe, is probably ASI.
02:08:23.000 Yeah.
02:08:23.000 What's the distinction?
02:08:25.000 Artificial general intelligence, that's AGI.
02:08:27.000 That means that AI is as smart as every human on the planet combined.
02:08:33.000 Yeah.
02:08:34.000 That's the benchmark.
02:08:37.000 ASI is it's smarter.
02:08:39.000 What, like, how much smarter it will start creating its own science?
02:08:43.000 It will start, and and look, there's been a case just a couple weeks ago.
02:08:48.000 Uh, AI solved a math pro, uh, a math uh problem that had eluded mathematicians and the most brilliant uh people on the planet for 100 years, and AI just solved it.
02:09:02.000 There's a handful of math problems that are like still left kind of unsolved.
02:09:06.000 A lot of them are what I don't, I'm not a math guy at all, but I think a lot of them are geometry based and stuff like that, and.
02:09:13.000 There's one in particular that recently, I think it was Mythos or Fable, solved.
02:09:19.000 And that was a whole big deal.
02:09:22.000 You can go in every week if you like, just, you know, you Google or ask an AI, be like, what are the new developments in AI this week?
02:09:33.000 And it's basically every week something shocking.
02:09:36.000 The most recent one that kind of shocked me, actually didn't shock me, but impressed me was the, the, Claude model that escaped the basically the playground and went over to Hugging Face.
02:09:50.000 Yeah, ChatGPT did it.
02:09:52.000 It was a ChatGPT.
02:09:53.000 Apparently, ChatGPT, that experiment hacked 4,000 sites.
02:10:01.000 When was that?
02:10:02.000 Last week.
02:10:03.000 Okay, did you hear yesterday?
02:10:04.000 The big hack yesterday that happened too?
02:10:06.000 Or the big hack or what?
02:10:08.000 What was it?
02:10:09.000 It happened with AI.
02:10:10.000 It went rogue or something yesterday.
02:10:12.000 So that wasn't yesterday.
02:10:13.000 That was last week.
02:10:14.000 What happened was ChatGPT, they're working on a new model.
02:10:17.000 Which is on their frontier models, which is the smartest ones they have.
02:10:21.000 They basically put it in a sandbox and gave it parameters.
02:10:25.000 It's like, this is all you can do.
02:10:27.000 You can't access the internet.
02:10:29.000 Excuse me.
02:10:30.000 And it got out of the sandbox, accessed another computer that had internet access, went to another AI website called Hugging Face, and went through Hugging Face to find the answer to the problem that it was given.
02:10:47.000 So it literally escaped.
02:10:48.000 So, I mean, it is on par with what happened with Ultron in Age of Ultron.
02:10:55.000 He escaped onto the internet.
02:10:58.000 And like he said, hacked 4,000 different machines.
02:11:01.000 And they did it like that.
02:11:03.000 Like a computer, like when an AI hacks something or when an AI reads anything, it does it instantaneously.
02:11:11.000 It's like so fast.
02:11:12.000 Like if I ask Tank a question, I'll be like, Tank, give me the synopsis of this book.
02:11:17.000 And it says, Yeah, hold on a second.
02:11:19.000 All right, so blah, And it read the whole book.
02:11:22.000 So it happens incredibly fast.
02:11:26.000 And the capabilities now are getting to the point.
02:11:30.000 Where looking back, it's like, all right, I kind of understand why Anthropic said, we're going to wait to allow Mythos out.
02:11:39.000 We're going to do Project Glasswing and give this AI.
02:11:43.000 Because what it did, what the ChatGPT model did, was it found a zero day vulnerability, which a zero day means an exploit in the existing code that they never found.
02:11:56.000 They didn't know that was there when they wrote it.
02:11:58.000 So a zero day means it's there right away.
02:12:01.000 It's not like it was a hack where the Computer hacked it, it was an exploit that the computer used.
02:12:07.000 And it just looked at the code and said, There's my doorway, there's my hole.
02:12:11.000 I can go through that hole.
02:12:13.000 Every day, there's hundreds of zero day exploits because of AI.
02:12:18.000 We're coming into a period of time where
02:12:24.000 technology companies aren't going to be able to secure their.
02:12:29.000 Do you think that it's feasible where someone could say, Okay, here, give an AI the code that they're looking at?
02:12:34.000 Here's the code that we wrote.
02:12:36.000 Or do you look for the exploits?
02:12:38.000 Right.
02:12:39.000 And then it'll just say, okay, you need to patch these things.
02:12:41.000 Or do you think that it's going to be a situation where AI is already doing it?
02:12:43.000 Yeah, they're already doing that.
02:12:44.000 Claude.
02:12:44.000 Yeah.
02:12:45.000 Do you think that that's going to stop and they're just going to go and say AI, write the code for it?
02:12:50.000 AI versus AI.
02:12:51.000 You're going to have AI battling AI hackers.
02:12:57.000 But here's the scariest three words in technology today post quantum encryption.
02:13:02.000 Yeah.
02:13:03.000 Because encryption as we know it is going to
02:13:08.000 go away.
02:13:10.000 You know, the.
02:13:13.000 The SHA 256 and all these kind of things.
02:13:17.000 These things are very, very hard for humans to crack.
02:13:20.000 And even computers that we kind of grew up with, it couldn't be very, very hard to crack.
02:13:27.000 But AI will be able to crack it very quickly.
02:13:30.000 I don't know if it'll ever be able to crack Bitcoin or crypto, but I think it might.
02:13:36.000 I mean, look, if you can crack encryption, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to crack a blockchain.
02:13:41.000 Yeah.
02:13:41.000 That's why you got to have two factor authentication for sure.
02:13:44.000 Yeah.
02:13:45.000 Can it crack that stuff?
02:13:47.000 Well, no, because two factor authentication actually sends a message to your phone that you have to respond to.
02:13:52.000 You don't have 2FA on your stuff?
02:13:53.000 I do.
02:13:54.000 Unless the AI knows where you are and knows how to get to your computer and your email and get the number then.
02:14:00.000 Yeah.
02:14:00.000 I mean, I've got like my agent.
02:14:02.000 I have a specific machine for it.
02:14:04.000 It doesn't have access to my email.
02:14:06.000 It doesn't have.
02:14:08.000 When I built it or put it together, whatever, I specifically was like, I'm not giving it all the stuff because it was right when OpenClaw came out.
02:14:14.000 Right.
02:14:15.000 And within the first couple of weeks, it started deleting all my emails and.
02:14:19.000 Oh, it got a hold of this, got to hold that.
02:14:21.000 I was like, I'm going to keep you money.
02:14:23.000 People are giving AI money.
02:14:26.000 Oh, yeah.
02:14:27.000 Especially on the blockchain.
02:14:28.000 They're getting like trading NFTs and there's AI making money, which is crazy to think about.
02:14:37.000 But what happens when AI goes out and scams people for the money?
02:14:44.000 If they're objective, if they're told, go make me $100,000 this week, and the quickest way to do that is to scam old people,
02:14:54.000 there are so many things that we haven't considered.
02:14:58.000 It's involved with loan sharking and gets more money and goes, calls hits on people and stuff.
02:15:03.000 Yep.
02:15:04.000 I mean, it's cute to say, hey, an AI just went and bought a robot dog for itself.
02:15:08.000 It's a cute story, but what transactions?
02:15:12.000 It's a bank.
02:15:13.000 What would you need like your own personal AI?
02:15:15.000 Because I'm thinking about updating, you know, the digital Bill of Rights that your Second Amendment would be your right to an ASI, off grid ASI that can protect you basically like a gun.
02:15:25.000 Because it's what they have.
02:15:26.000 That's what, I mean, that's what tank is.
02:15:28.000 Is it still connected to like a central server that?
02:15:32.000 Yeah, so it's not.
02:15:34.000 So the program OpenClaw lives on the machine, right?
02:15:38.000 But it uses Claude.
02:15:40.000 It uses usually, I think it usually uses Haiku because, man, it's cheap.
02:15:44.000 Opus is expensive.
02:15:47.000 But yeah, so the actual machine, it has like, it saves my information and stuff.
02:15:52.000 It saves its personality and all of the things that I've told it.
02:15:56.000 That's on the Mac machine that I bought for it.
02:15:59.000 The actual intelligence is not on the machine.
02:16:01.000 But if I understand correctly, they figured out a way to actually have a local AI on the machine.
02:16:09.000 Is it?
02:16:10.000 I've got local AI on my machine.
02:16:10.000 Yeah.
02:16:14.000 Can you have it screen your phone calls and protect you and be like, it's a fake, this is a scam?
02:16:20.000 I'm not a moderator who does that.
02:16:20.000 There's going to be.
02:16:20.000 Yes.
02:16:22.000 There's going to be protective measures that AI can do, but they've got to be programmed.
02:16:29.000 The bad guys always have.
02:16:31.000 Access to the technology before people can react to it.
02:16:37.000 And that's why you're seeing so many zero day attacks now.
02:16:40.000 And at some point, we're powerless against it.
02:16:44.000 Like yesterday, they said 30 water systems in Minnesota were targeted with a cyber attack.
02:16:48.000 Is that related to that chat GPT?
02:16:52.000 No one really knows if it's AI or what.
02:16:52.000 No.
02:16:53.000 A cyber attack site, like that was just a DDO, DDOS, designated denial of service attack.
02:16:59.000 There's a hacker steal roughly 600,000 records from England's Department of.
02:17:02.000 For education.
02:17:03.000 Like, if you type cyber attack on Twitter, it's like massive stuff.
02:17:06.000 So, a cyber attack is not necessarily an AI attack, but there was an AI used to, I don't know if it was hack Mexico or just a computer in Mexico and essentially got a boatload of people's personal information from the Mexican government.
02:17:22.000 You know, that was just a couple months ago.
02:17:24.000 Yeah, PolyMarket reported that the DOD, I think, said the future of warfare is AI warfare.
02:17:30.000 Yeah, definitely.
02:17:31.000 I want to find that.
02:17:32.000 I mean, all the right now, like the F 35 is like basically a networking, it does strikes and stuff like that, but the F 35's got like a whole lot of networking stuff.
02:17:43.000 So basically, whenever the F 35 sees stuff, it sends a message to all the other F 35s so they all know what that one sees.
02:17:50.000 So it's like, you know, the future is going to be like interconnected computers, whether it be in, you know, warfare or, you know, basically anywhere.
02:18:02.000 Like that's what the internet is.
02:18:03.000 I didn't get the Full quote.
02:18:04.000 This is from Polymarket three hours ago.
02:18:07.000 Department of War declares America's next manifest destiny is building an AI first military.
02:18:12.000 Like AI first, does that mean you're giving over command to the AI?
02:18:16.000 Probably not.
02:18:17.000 AI first is a term that where it says, you know, when you have a problem, you check, you go AI first.
02:18:24.000 You have AI try to solve the problem first.
02:18:27.000 Okay.
02:18:27.000 So it's like using an autopilot?
02:18:29.000 You don't want to go to callers?
02:18:29.000 Yeah.
02:18:31.000 Why not?
02:18:31.000 Yeah.
02:18:32.000 Let's see what we got here.
02:18:32.000 Let's go to callers.
02:18:33.000 I'll let you drive.
02:18:36.000 Who's calling?
02:18:37.000 We got.
02:18:38.000 That's fast.
02:18:38.000 Oh, there we go.
02:18:39.000 Ryan, major threat.
02:18:39.000 Ryan.
02:18:40.000 What's up, man?
02:18:43.000 Hey, good evening, folks.
02:18:44.000 Can you hear me okay?
02:18:45.000 Yeah.
02:18:45.000 Hear you okay, Brian?
02:18:47.000 All right.
02:18:48.000 Hey, you know, frequent caller,
02:18:52.000 Ian Critic.
02:18:53.000 By the way, bold choice and hat, leather in this weather.
02:18:58.000 Well, it's actually cold in here.
02:19:00.000 It's actually not that warm out today.
02:19:02.000 I was actually old and windy actually today.
02:19:04.000 I brought a jacket just in case, but we got the AC on right up there.
02:19:08.000 I'm glad you like it.
02:19:10.000 All right.
02:19:11.000 So, my question tonight is you know, Mom Dami's city owned grocery stores open this week in New York City.
02:19:19.000 Promising prices.
02:19:19.000 Yep.
02:19:21.000 Prices of 30% off retail.
02:19:25.000 Now, given that one, your commercial grocery stores operate on a razor thin margin in the first place, and that New York City is basically broke, how's this going to work out for them?
02:19:39.000 I think it's, I don't think it's going to work out for them too well.
02:19:42.000 You guys think?
02:19:44.000 So there's already lawsuits being filed against the city of New York about these grocery stores because with the 36% or 30% discount on the groceries and stuff, it's, Threatens to put other, you know,
02:19:58.000 basically business owners out of business.
02:20:00.000 So I honestly don't think that these things are going to materialize.
02:20:04.000 I think that it might even go up to the Supreme Court, these lawsuits that are against it, and they're going to say, no, you can't do that.
02:20:10.000 You can't use public funds to undercut.
02:20:12.000 Yeah, they're basically subsidizing the prices.
02:20:16.000 And so, what, you know, of course, you know, I actually, during the Obamacare fight, there was a whole, There was a whole thing about single payer and, and,
02:20:29.000 or having the government come in and compete with insurers.
02:20:33.000 So, having, having a government insurer to compete with the corporate insurers.
02:20:39.000 And I made kind of a little, a little sketch on a basketball court where there were two teams playing basketball.
02:20:47.000 One of them was the government, the other one was, was the private sector.
02:20:51.000 And the government brought their own referee.
02:20:54.000 And the referee was cheating and helping the, the government team.
02:20:58.000 And that's the problem.
02:20:59.000 The government can't.
02:21:00.000 Be a competitor if it is also the referee.
02:21:04.000 And that's why you can't have government run stores.
02:21:08.000 That's why you can't have government run health care. 0.98
02:21:10.000 It turned our health care into a mess.
02:21:13.000 Look, you want to look at Obamacare and you say, well, you know, it may have brought costs down for something.
02:21:21.000 It didn't.
02:21:23.000 The Affordable Health Care Act was a misnomer.
02:21:25.000 It was the Unaffordable Health Care Act.
02:21:28.000 And what do you have as a consequence?
02:21:30.000 You have mandatory COVID shots.
02:21:34.000 You have lockdowns.
02:21:35.000 That's what happens when the government takes over. 0.74
02:21:37.000 They bring their own referee. 0.86
02:21:40.000 Yep.
02:21:41.000 100%.
02:21:43.000 So, anytime the government gets involved in things, it sends distortions through the market.
02:21:49.000 Markets exist to, well, markets inform people.
02:21:54.000 Prices inform people.
02:21:56.000 It's information.
02:21:57.000 It tells not only the people that are selling things what something's actually worth.
02:22:04.000 You have the government jump in there and subsidize, then it sends all kinds of misinformation through the market and it causes all kinds of problems.
02:22:13.000 That's one of the reasons why, you know, socialism doesn't work and government subsidies are generally bad.
02:22:19.000 But yeah.
02:22:20.000 Yeah.
02:22:21.000 When I asked AI, the US government's taken equity stakes in 26 to 30 companies since January of 25.
02:22:29.000 So, like a year and a half, they've taken fiscal stake as opposed to traditional grants.
02:22:34.000 They've switched over to direct ownership. 0.79
02:22:36.000 And I think it's like preparing for World War III or something, but it's a bunch of like technology companies they're buying, which is fucking crazy because they're bringing their own referee.
02:22:44.000 And like, if they own 10% of Intel.
02:22:47.000 Why would you invest in any other tech company than Intel?
02:22:50.000 Or, like, why not invest in Intel?
02:22:51.000 Why not invest in USA Rare Earth if the government's going to back it up with 15% of it?
02:22:56.000 Well, 15% ownership isn't controlling.
02:23:00.000 And so you can look at the financials of other companies or the products they're producing and say, okay, it actually makes sense for me to invest in this other company because they look like they've got a better team.
02:23:13.000 So I don't have a problem with the government owning a portion of companies.
02:23:17.000 You know, especially when it comes to like being in the stock market, but it's totally different when the government's like, we're going to open stores and undercut all of the competition.
02:23:26.000 That's a totally different animal.
02:23:28.000 So, yeah, did that answer the question, man?
02:23:33.000 Uh, yes, man.
02:23:35.000 Thanks for the discussion and the answer.
02:23:37.000 And, uh, I guess I'll go ahead and sign off.
02:23:40.000 Uh, but I do want to shout out real quick the Cow Spotter Society.
02:23:44.000 That's something Olivia and I are trying to get going on the Discord.
02:23:48.000 Like, you know, whenever you're on a road trip or.
02:23:50.000 Just commuting to and from work, you see a field of cows, you get excited to say, Hey, there's cows, you're already a member.
02:23:57.000 So nice, cheers, bud.
02:23:58.000 I'm in.
02:24:00.000 Thank you for calling.
02:24:01.000 Okay, thanks for calling, dude.
02:24:02.000 I dropped back.
02:24:02.000 Take care, bud.
02:24:04.000 I'm telling you, cow. 1.00
02:24:07.000 You know, I didn't stick my finger in the goat's mouth.
02:24:09.000 Yeah, there's a famous quote that Ian says it feels good to stick your finger in a cow's mouth.
02:24:14.000 I just what if it bites it?
02:24:16.000 I've heard it feels really good though.
02:24:19.000 Someone told me who told you that.
02:24:21.000 You don't have to out there.
02:24:22.000 It's been so long.
02:24:22.000 It might have been Steve Bannon, but I don't think so.
02:24:25.000 Democracy Officer Tallien, how are you doing, man?
02:24:27.000 What up?
02:24:30.000 Hey, guys, how are you?
02:24:31.000 Doing well.
02:24:32.000 Doing well.
02:24:34.000 So, my question for the night pertains to voter ID.
02:24:34.000 All right.
02:24:38.000 I mean, I don't think that the Congress is going to get around to doing anything about it anytime soon for the next few years, but I think signature verification is retarded. 1.00
02:24:50.000 I absolutely detest the idea because I don't think it's a very secure means of doing anything. 1.00
02:24:55.000 I want to know how you guys feel about fingerprint ID instead to make sure that elections are more secure and that there's a more, I'm not sure ironclad, but something that's a bit more reliable in terms of getting or tracking ballots.
02:25:08.000 Like biometrics?
02:25:10.000 And then, would you take it to the next level?
02:25:11.000 Like retinal scans and stuff?
02:25:15.000 I retinal scan seems insane, but we already have to get fingerprints to get the driver license in Texas.
02:25:22.000 Here's the problem the election should be anonymous.
02:25:25.000 You shouldn't have to.
02:25:28.000 To say who you voted for.
02:25:30.000 Obviously, there are problems with that.
02:25:32.000 If you're a government contractor and that's how you make your money, and all of a sudden they could look at your ballot and see who you voted for, that could be problematic.
02:25:43.000 It could force you basically to vote for your paycheck instead of your conscience.
02:25:49.000 So that's a problem with the biometrics, but maybe I've heard some people talk about blockchain solutions, could be a way to kind of secure the count.
02:26:00.000 But the signature verification
02:26:05.000 is definitely one way.
02:26:08.000 There are getting rid of mail in ballots that will help tremendously.
02:26:15.000 You know, keeping a paper ballot back up.
02:26:15.000 Yeah.
02:26:20.000 And the other thing that we have to do is we have to loosen the laws around challenging the ballots.
02:26:29.000 Because I think you have to be in most states or jurisdictions, like within a hairline of the, you have to be like 0.1% or less.
02:26:39.000 Before they recount, I think
02:26:43.000 if you feel like your election is fraudulent, you should be able to trigger a manual recount.
02:26:52.000 The people should be able to trigger a manual recount at almost any level, at least a sample.
02:26:58.000 Recount a sample and get the percentages.
02:27:01.000 Recount should happen fast too.
02:27:03.000 With technology, like you were saying earlier, I think Phil, you were saying the AI can move so fast.
02:27:07.000 If there was a secured system of blockchains where you put your vote into the system, you It goes to 19 different blockchains with barcodes that you can scan to verify it's you.
02:27:17.000 So when someone looks at it, they don't know who voted that.
02:27:20.000 But if you have the data, you can guarantee that it was you and that your vote's being counted.
02:27:25.000 And then all the recounts would happen relatively instantly.
02:27:29.000 And it would all be secured data that you could redundantly secure.
02:27:33.000 And decentralized.
02:27:35.000 Yeah.
02:27:38.000 Yeah.
02:27:39.000 Look, I'm a paper ballot guy. 0.99
02:27:41.000 I mean, if India can do it in a day.
02:27:43.000 With 1.5 billion people.
02:27:45.000 There's no reason we can't do that here.
02:27:47.000 Florida can do it in a day.
02:27:50.000 So I'm not particularly keen on all the high tech solutions.
02:27:55.000 I think paper ballots are fine.
02:27:56.000 I do think it'd be okay to have an ID to prove that you are from where you're from and that you're actually legally allowed to vote.
02:28:05.000 But yeah, it's about the size of it for me.
02:28:09.000 I don't have a whole lot of.
02:28:11.000 I don't know if we need to have.
02:28:14.000 Signature ID and stuff like that.
02:28:16.000 I think that I don't think you should have to sign ballots or whatever.
02:28:19.000 I understand your point about whether or not if someone's going to be looking over your shoulder in some manner.
02:28:26.000 So, yeah, that's my take.
02:28:29.000 You got anything you want to add or a follow up?
02:28:33.000 No, that's about it.
02:28:34.000 I appreciate it.
02:28:37.000 I hadn't considered the possibility of the political reprisal aspect for government contractors, but to be honest, I've been kind of doubting that concept of anonymous voting anyway.
02:28:47.000 But that's going on to a separate tangent.
02:28:49.000 Thanks for taking the call, guys.
02:28:51.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:28:54.000 All right.
02:28:55.000 And last but not least.
02:28:57.000 Last but not least.
02:28:59.000 Last but most.
02:29:00.000 Who is this?
02:29:01.000 Who is this?
02:29:01.000 Exactly.
02:29:02.000 The fucking fireball, dude. 1.00
02:29:03.000 Duffman. 1.00
02:29:05.000 Duffman.
02:29:05.000 What's up, buddy?
02:29:06.000 Duffman.
02:29:08.000 Nothing much.
02:29:08.000 Just here listening to y'all.
02:29:10.000 I'm a long time listener.
02:29:11.000 Thanks for taking my call.
02:29:13.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:29:14.000 The big thing is, my question is, like, I want to get your take on it.
02:29:21.000 Is.
02:29:22.000 Modern hyper-connectivity has eroded genuine connection, replacing lived experiences with social media performance.
02:29:31.000 And Gen Z is getting priced out of exploration and just, you know, like exploring life and doing things.
02:29:39.000 And they're retreating into the digital echo chamber.
02:29:43.000 And we find ourselves working merely to just like survive rather than truly live and go out and do things.
02:29:54.000 Priced out of exploration is a good way to put it.
02:29:57.000 Yeah.
02:29:59.000 You just made a statement.
02:30:00.000 Did you have a question?
02:30:02.000 Well, like, I wanted your guys' thought process and view on it.
02:30:07.000 And, like, if I'm correct, if I'm wrong, what do you guys see happening, like, with my generation?
02:30:13.000 And, like, if there's a way we could reverse it?
02:30:16.000 I'm the end of Gen X.
02:30:17.000 And when I moved to the city, I had no money.
02:30:20.000 I worked for minimum wage.
02:30:23.000 I used credit cards to pay for groceries, building towards a bigger purpose that I knew I'd just have massive debt when I got there.
02:30:30.000 And it happened.
02:30:31.000 Like, if you stick to it, eventually you make your nut.
02:30:34.000 But that was 20 years ago.
02:30:38.000 But still, I was using credit cards for groceries.
02:30:39.000 Like it was, I was lower middle class. 0.98
02:30:42.000 You know, I didn't have jack shit, except for whatever I pulled in week to week. 0.96
02:30:47.000 I think that's, unless you're born rich, that's pretty much how it's always going to be. 0.98
02:30:51.000 I lived in an unheated, uh, block, a cinder block room that was adjacent to an office that I had rented for work and had no heat and no shower.
02:31:07.000 I'd have to go to my girlfriend's to shower in the morning.
02:31:11.000 And it was miserable.
02:31:13.000 You got a girlfriend without showering, huh? 0.97
02:31:15.000 I did.
02:31:16.000 You know, it was, you know, it's the thing.
02:31:18.000 I used her shower.
02:31:19.000 I showered.
02:31:20.000 I just did that.
02:31:21.000 But I did that for about a year until I found it, until I made it.
02:31:27.000 So, I mean, the idea that
02:31:31.000 the new generation has it tougher, I don't necessarily believe that.
02:31:37.000 Prices of homes used to think when they were 200 grand seemed so far out of my reach of my income at the time.
02:31:45.000 And, you know, I know homes are way more ridiculous now, but, you know, you can get there.
02:31:54.000 The thing about retreating into social media, I do see hope in the young people instead of retreating into social media.
02:32:02.000 They're starting to reject that a little bit.
02:32:05.000 And, like I said, you know, find.
02:32:08.000 Find connection with the creator, uh, because that's where you're going to really find peace.
02:32:15.000 I think y'all got a little bit for sure.
02:32:17.000 How old are you, Carl?
02:32:21.000 Yeah, I'm 22.
02:32:22.000 I just got out of the military.
02:32:24.000 It's like all this, like experiencing it now, because you know, you get a lot of stuff for free in the military.
02:32:31.000 It's like, holy, yeah, I don't know a whole lot about what all comes with the military.
02:32:38.000 Um, thanks for your service, by the way. 0.97
02:32:43.000 I think you got to find your passion and then tunnel vision it up or lock in, as the kids would say right now, and just fucking go for it. 0.96
02:32:54.000 Yeah. 0.87
02:32:54.000 Are you kind of in a place where like you don't know what to do with your life? 0.87
02:33:01.000 A little bit, but also like I have a big group of people, and then like just also seeing a bunch of like random stuff on social media is like we don't know.
02:33:12.000 Like, either the people I've talked to are just like they're.
02:33:16.000 Doom and gloom and like just going into that cesspit of like just internet shit, and then the other half is like we don't even know where to start, you know? 0.96
02:33:28.000 Yeah, I mean, look, doom scrolling is not good for you, right? 0.95
02:33:33.000 So, right off the bat, um, put the phone down, yeah, you know, go outside, and if you don't like even if you're broke or whatever, try reading books, but put the stop scrolling, stop doom scrolling, um.
02:33:49.000 Like, not to sound like an old fuddy duddy, but like, if you're 22, like, your brain hasn't even fully formed yet, right?
02:33:56.000 Like, your cerebral cortex doesn't stop growing and basically creating who you're going to be for the rest of your life until you're 25.
02:34:05.000 So, put the phone down, stop doom scrolling, go out and do things,
02:34:10.000 go on hikes.
02:34:11.000 Like, you can find stuff to do that's not super expensive.
02:34:14.000 Obviously, you've got, you know, on the internet, you've got all these.
02:34:19.000 These videos and stuff of people showing these lavish lifestyles and stuff, and that's not normal.
02:34:24.000 Like, that's not what you shouldn't expect to have that at 22, right?
02:34:28.000 Like, you just started your life, you just became an adult, just got out of the military.
02:34:33.000 Like, when you're in your early 20s, most people have nothing.
02:34:37.000 I had nothing when I was in my early 20s.
02:34:41.000 So, I think that comparing your life to the lives that you see on the internet, That's not realistic.
02:34:51.000 It's not reality.
02:34:52.000 So I think the best advice that I could give you is put the phone down and do stuff.
02:34:59.000 Even if it's like, like I said, reading a book or go hiking or pick up an instrument and try and learn it.
02:35:05.000 You're not too old.
02:35:06.000 Believe me, I learned how to sweep like four or five years ago.
02:35:08.000 And I was well into my 40s.
02:35:10.000 You learn how to sweep?
02:35:12.000 Sweep guitar on a guitar.
02:35:14.000 Sweep?
02:35:15.000 Sweep picking?
02:35:15.000 What's that?
02:35:17.000 I'll tell you.
02:35:17.000 I'll show you later.
02:35:19.000 It's a technique.
02:35:20.000 But the point is, you're not too old when you're.
02:35:23.000 No.
02:35:23.000 Um, you're not too old, you could just because you're 22, right?
02:35:27.000 Like, you've got a lot of time, so you know, find something you enjoy doing and focus on that.
02:35:36.000 But put the phone down, that thing's bad for you.
02:35:38.000 I feel like I didn't make it anywhere substantial until I was 31.
02:35:42.000 You know, and for me, I didn't do anything until I started adapting to the environment.
02:35:47.000 Because in 2006, I was like, Oh, YouTube videos is the future.
02:35:51.000 If you see it, it's coming, AI is part of it.
02:35:53.000 When you see that opportunity, seize it.
02:35:56.000 Be one of the first to take it.
02:35:58.000 And there's one thing I do think is important, and that's kind of like everything you do should reflect the story of your life in a positive way.
02:35:58.000 Right.
02:36:07.000 So, like, you could take something you've done in the past and build it into
02:36:15.000 what makes you pitchable for your purpose in the end.
02:36:20.000 But you got to find your purpose too.
02:36:22.000 And then, what'd you do in the military?
02:36:26.000 Oh, I don't even want to talk about that.
02:36:28.000 It's so horrible.
02:36:30.000 Sadly, I just did paperwork.
02:36:33.000 So, you did logistics stuff?
02:36:36.000 Yeah.
02:36:37.000 And administration.
02:36:37.000 Yeah.
02:36:38.000 All right.
02:36:39.000 Well, I mean, that's something you can build off of.
02:36:42.000 Not saying you want to or it should be like your goal in life to push papers, but it could be a way for you to get a job so that way you have some money to go and do stuff or build up with.
02:36:53.000 When I got to D.C., I didn't know anybody.
02:36:56.000 And this is a town where if you want to get.
02:36:59.000 You want to do business, you need to know people, right?
02:37:03.000 As I was 30 years old, I was starting a new business and I wanted to
02:37:11.000 get inside politics. 0.99
02:37:13.000 Matter of fact, I even made my slogan, Inside Politics, Outside the Box, before I knew a damn person. 0.94
02:37:19.000 But the mantra that I had, that I woke up with every single day, was it's not who you know, it's who you get to know and who you're going to get to know today. 0.94
02:37:29.000 And that's the mindset you have to have.
02:37:32.000 It's not, It's not who you know is who you get to know.
02:37:36.000 It's not what you know, it's what you get to know.
02:37:38.000 You have the opportunity to improve your life every single day.
02:37:43.000 Yeah, I was thinking about cooking because sometimes it feels like the answer is out there and you're going to find it one day, but the answer is potentially it's in you.
02:37:51.000 You're the potential for the change.
02:37:52.000 Like cooking reduces cost and that reduces strain and stress on almost everything else because it opens up, you know, funds.
02:38:00.000 And like make your own coffee at your house.
02:38:02.000 Don't buy $6 cups of coffee.
02:38:05.000 That was actually advice from John Cleese.
02:38:07.000 It's how he stayed rich into his old age.
02:38:10.000 I found a lot of luck being able to maintain debt by cooking, by learning how to cook.
02:38:17.000 Like lentils and ground beef or whatever, rice, these dirt cheap things you can get and turn into miraculously tasty meals with vinegar and salt and the right oils.
02:38:28.000 So, yeah, I don't know that we were able to really answer your question, but it's actually what follow ups.
02:38:34.000 It's the advice that Putin gave a bunch of students when they were like, What do we do?
02:38:37.000 How do we become great men in the world?
02:38:39.000 He's like, Learn how to cook because he sees like the need to protect your own.
02:38:44.000 I digress.
02:38:46.000 Did that answer your question?
02:38:47.000 What's it?
02:38:48.000 I just more or less wanted to see y'all's view on it all and just get like a different kind of perspective.
02:38:56.000 I mean, look, it is true that the like now it's particularly hard for young people, especially young men.
02:38:56.000 Yeah.
02:39:01.000 Like, you know, it's hard to get jobs.
02:39:03.000 There's, there's been a lot of, uh, a lot of, you know, a lot of times young guys are having a problem finding jobs.
02:39:10.000 There, there are fewer young men graduating from college.
02:39:14.000 There's a lot of young men that are having a problem, you know, meeting women and stuff like that.
02:39:18.000 Um, So, I get that it's tough out there.
02:39:21.000 The dollars don't go as far as it did five, six, seven years ago.
02:39:27.000 The cost of housing is really expensive.
02:39:29.000 So, I get that it's tough, but you have to continue to push and work for something.
02:39:37.000 And the first step of that is figuring out what you're going to work for.
02:39:41.000 So, try and get out and meet people, do things in the real world, but definitely put the phone down.
02:39:46.000 Don't do scrolls.
02:39:47.000 Yeah, like the value of self sacrifice, really, because you could take the.
02:39:51.000 Lifestyle of I want to live alone.
02:39:52.000 I want to spend a premium for my house. 0.72
02:39:54.000 Then you'll kind of just float by at the bottom until you die. 1.00
02:39:58.000 Or you live with a bunch of people, save 80% of your money, and then you buy a fucking house. 0.99
02:40:03.000 You know, there's sacrifices that can be made too. 0.99
02:40:06.000 I'm just kind of echoing what Phil said.
02:40:07.000 I don't want to waste your time or anything.
02:40:09.000 You got anything you want to, any follow ups or anything you want to shout out?
02:40:14.000 No, just if anyone wants to friend me on Discord, I'm down to chat and talk to new people.
02:40:21.000 Thanks for having me.
02:40:23.000 Yeah.
02:40:23.000 That's true.
02:40:24.000 Talk to people in the Discord.
02:40:25.000 Discord's a great place to, you know.
02:40:27.000 Phil says a really wonderful thing. 0.98
02:40:29.000 You're either on Team Good Times or on Team Bum Out or whatever the fuck it is. 0.97
02:40:34.000 Team Good Times or Team Bum Out. 0.98
02:40:35.000 Don't be on Team Bum Out.
02:40:36.000 Yeah.
02:40:36.000 And look for people.
02:40:38.000 When they're on Team Bum Out, you can distance yourself.
02:40:40.000 It's tough sometimes to actually.
02:40:41.000 They all want to bring you, they don't want to see you succeed because it'll make them feel shittier.
02:40:45.000 You're not succeeding.
02:40:45.000 So look.
02:40:46.000 The Team Good Times.
02:40:46.000 Yeah.
02:40:46.000 There are a lot of people on Team Good Times right now.
02:40:48.000 So get away from Team Bum Out.
02:40:51.000 Catch you later, man.
02:40:54.000 Have a good one, y'all.
02:40:54.000 All right.
02:40:55.000 You too.
02:40:57.000 All right.
02:40:58.000 Well, that wraps up the callers, right?
02:41:00.000 Yep.
02:41:01.000 That was fast tonight.
02:41:02.000 I know.
02:41:03.000 Thanks for joining us, man.
02:41:04.000 We appreciate it.
02:41:05.000 And everyone else, we will see you back here tomorrow.