A raccoon breaks into a liquor store, steals moonshine, and gets drunk. What does this have to do with politics? And what does it mean for the rest of us? This week on The Casperson Show, host John Rocha and co-host Sarah Abdurrahman discuss it all.
00:02:25.000It broke into a liquor store, stole moonshine, and I guess peanut butter whiskey, got plastered, passed out, sprawled on the floor at a bathroom.
00:02:34.000And it's funny, and I enjoyed the story, but I was actually shocked to find that in Google Trend search, as well as across all of corporate news, this is their top story.
00:03:58.000Having a touching grass, talking to a lot of people about this, and we'll talk about what's happening in this country politically, but what the raccoon means for all of that.
00:04:05.000Before we get started, my friends, we got some great sponsors for you.
00:05:44.000Actually, it looks like it's going to be distributed to a variety of restaurants and warehouses and may appear in some gas stations, I guess, because people think it's very funny.
00:06:22.000I was the star of the 2022 Tucker Carlson documentary, The End of Men, about testosterone decline.
00:06:29.000And now I have written a book that sort of follows on from the documentary called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, which is about testosterone decline as a political problem.
00:06:41.000And I think it is a big political problem.
00:09:49.000Now, it's harder to politicize drunken raccoon unless something bad happens to him like peanut.
00:09:54.000Well, there's a very, very simple and obvious reason why this story, there's two big picture reasons why the story is going viral and why it is one of the, if not the top story right now.
00:11:19.000Culturally, we don't care about the same things anymore.
00:11:22.000In the United States, everyone cares about some random thing, some micro-community, some random subculture.
00:11:28.000No one's paying attention to big picture stuff anymore.
00:11:31.000Again, the story is funny, but also politics is cooked.
00:11:35.000Not just because we're in the back of the back year of a presidential election, but because for the past decade, literal decade, every day, it's been like someone standing next to you screaming Trump at the top of their lungs.
00:11:51.000And people have begun to tune out and just say, I don't care anymore.
00:12:30.000I would say yes, but the search volume for this story is extremely low.
00:12:34.000The point is the search volume for everything else is lower.
00:12:38.000This means that, you know, normally when Ozzy died, you had 10 million searches because that was something impactful culturally that we were all uniform.
00:13:18.000I think, you know, one of the reasons we focused very heavily on memberships is because this is something I've been predicting for a while that volume-based media is cooked.
00:13:27.000If you want to run a company and you want to make money to pay your employees, you need actual paying members.
00:13:33.000If you're going to try and operate off ad sales and volume, it's not going to happen moving forward.
00:13:38.000Well, even views-wise, if you're talking about that type of, when you said when Ozzy died, who else died around that time?
00:13:44.000I don't remember if that was Michelle Trachtenberg, but we covered there was like three or four deaths that all happened around that time.
00:13:49.000And we covered them each day on the show to varying degrees of volume of people watching the clips after the fact.
00:13:56.000And the Michelle Trachtenberg one did really, really well because it fell in line with what our channel covers.
00:14:02.000So like you said, everybody's kind of sectored themselves off into their own little corners of the internet.
00:14:07.000And so you don't have great volume on a ton of other things because everybody's looking for something very, very specific to a niche group of people.
00:14:15.000Yeah, I mean, this has been described by like some cultural commentators as the monoculture of the 20th century, where, I mean, because you had mainstream institutions, mainstream media institutions, so people generally were all on the same page with what sort of media they were intaking.
00:14:28.000Obviously, the radio, the movie theaters, that sort of thing.
00:14:30.000The internet comes along and democratizes everything.
00:14:48.000So I was talking about this the other day.
00:14:51.000I did a Tim Pool show podcast on brutalism.
00:14:56.000There's this great video where Sheehan Quirk talks about how you've got this great architecture along the Thames River with these like fish around these lampposts and everyone gathered around and stood in awe and they all had a contest.
00:15:20.000But the reason why your McDonald's no longer has a play place, the reason why Pizza Hut no longer has its stylized structure and is a gray block strip mall delivery project is because the people who come to this country, the 53 million migrants, do not share your values.
00:15:38.000And so if a company says, I want to sell as much product as possible, they have to cater to the community.
00:16:05.000Big gray blocks instead of beautiful Roman architecture because no one's going to vote to approve a style of art that is not part of their traditional culture or their worldview.
00:16:15.000Drunken raccoon is appealing to liberals and Democrats alike.
00:16:19.000I'm sorry, liberals and conservatives alike.
00:16:21.000So when they run the story, everybody clicks it.
00:16:24.000If they run a story about Trump, no matter what, they will get heat for it.
00:16:28.000So this is your lowest common denominator news, and it's not even getting that much attention.
00:16:33.000Despite it being the biggest story, it's getting, I do want to be fair.
00:16:49.000I thought a big part of the reason why all of the stores look the same now is because they want to be able to sell that real estate if the store goes out of business, right?
00:16:55.000Like the like when you sit when you sell a pizza hut now and some other business is there, you know exactly what used to be there before.
00:17:01.000It lowers the resale for the for the for the land, right?
00:17:05.000There's a bank out here that's a daycare center.
00:17:07.000And where like the uh they they built the playground under the drive-through bank teller thing because it's covered and you can tell it's a bank.
00:18:45.000It's actually a republish from MS No One Watching.
00:18:49.000Democrats shouldn't celebrate losing in Tennessee.
00:18:52.000Why, yes, just the other day, Afton Bain lost, and Matt Van Eps won in the special election in Tennessee by nine points.
00:19:03.000And the Democrats are celebrating because in 2024, this was an R plus 22 district.
00:19:08.000And now people are saying, you see, this shows the weakness of the MAGA base and stronghold, which is being ripped asunder.
00:19:16.000They're wrong and they're stupid, but at least I'll give them this.
00:19:20.000MAGA is absolutely getting torn apart, ripped to shreds.
00:19:25.000And, you know, that being said, Turning Point USA just came out and formally addressed Candace Owens, who then said that she's going to, she'll debate them or whatever.
00:19:34.000And I'm like, you see, this is the problem, I guess.
00:19:39.000But that being said, Matt Brainerd has an excellent post breaking this down where he says the media will make a big deal about how much closer the Tennessee seven special was in the presidential as some kind of referendum.
00:19:52.000But this is fundamentally dumb, don't fall for it.
00:19:55.000What he basically says is that in 2024, a longtime incumbent ran with zero primary, Mark Green, and outspent the Democrat $2.2 million to $1.2 million.
00:20:08.000In the 2024 presidential election in the district, effectively zero money was spent by either presidential campaign, and Republicans were energized in a state they were always expected to win.
00:20:18.000In this special election, basically what he's saying is Democrats dumped tons of money into it, and Republicans barely paid attention.
00:20:26.000They didn't care that much, and Democrats had nothing else to focus on.
00:20:30.000So they focused heavily on spending money to try and rip down the slim Republican majority.
00:20:36.000But in the end, the Republicans still win.
00:20:38.000And the expectation is going into 2026, when you have an energized base, a then incumbent, and a lot more money, no one is going to spend money in this district.
00:21:31.000And then the question is for everybody, who's going to win in 2026?
00:21:35.000I mean, well, I still think that it depends on the economy, right?
00:21:39.000Like if the economy is doing well, then Republicans can win.
00:21:44.000And they're not a shoe-in because of just historically in the, you know, the follow-up to a national campaign or a presidential campaign where one party wins, the other party does better.
00:21:57.000If the economy is not doing good, the Republicans are going to get trounced.
00:22:01.000And I don't think that there's a whole lot of, like, this isn't some kind of like brilliant insight.
00:22:08.000So based on your analysis of it, do you think that then this worked for the Democrats in their favor, that their audience will believe that this should energize them going into 2026 because they can give this very, very simple narrative that they made inroads here, despite the fact that obviously what you're saying or what the guy who wrote that article was saying is saying that it's not that simple?
00:22:26.000I would say that Democrats, like Candace Owens, rely on an ignorant audience base that won't actually look into evidence and will just blindly believe what they're told.
00:22:37.000So instead of actually looking at the data, looking at the spend, like Matt Brainerd is pointing out, they just say, wow.
00:22:47.000And your lowest common denominator is going to be seventh grade reading level and lower.
00:22:52.000So if your lexicon is a bit too verbose for these people, they're going to avoid your content as they can't understand what it is you're trying to convey.
00:23:00.000Well, I'm the seventh grade reading level here, so that's right for that.
00:23:04.000And don't forget, reading comprehension doesn't just mean the size of the words or their obscurity.
00:23:09.000It also means your ability to understand what it is you're actually reading.
00:23:41.000You have some like really odd indicators that are like that are showing the morale of the United States is really poor right now.
00:23:48.000For one, I think it was the business insider had an article that said 33% of people between 25 and 34 expect to lose their job in the next year.
00:23:56.000If you have a third of your young people just expecting to lose their job for, and they gave a variety of reasons, the main one was just that the job would be redundant.
00:24:33.000Like Tennessee 7 is not, it's safe red.
00:24:37.000There's no expectation that anything, no one's going to spend money in there.
00:24:40.000However, you take a look at a bunch of these other districts that are toss-ups.
00:24:43.000This is where Democrat money is going to go.
00:24:45.000And that's where we don't know exactly what will happen.
00:24:47.000And Democrats do have an opportunity to take the majority.
00:24:50.000Right now, Republicans are favored just in size.
00:24:53.000209 likely victories to Democrats, 206, but there are 20 toss-ups, which means Democrats could absolutely win.
00:25:02.000And the problem is there's a handful of issues that matter.
00:25:07.000The first and most important is the cost of living.
00:25:10.000Republicans are viewed more favorably than Democrats, but Donald Trump is going on TV and saying grocery prices aren't up.
00:25:17.000They literally are up quite a bit, and it's terrifying.
00:25:20.000And if Trump and the Republicans are going to play the game of I'm going to plug my ears and say no over and over again, you're not convincing the working class dad who literally went to the grocery store yesterday and is spending $800 a week.
00:25:33.000When you say they're not up, grocery prices are down, he's going to be like, are you insane?
00:25:39.000And then, to be honest, so long as Democrats just keep shrieking about the color of their skin or who they want to bang, that poor working class guy is going to be like, I don't even know.
00:25:51.000But some Democrats in the congressional districts, they've already had this post-mortem report where they said you need to shift on this message.
00:25:58.000If swing Democrats go heavy into economics and Republicans aren't, Democrats win.
00:26:03.000Well, that's weren't they saying that's why Mum Donnie did as well as he did is because he stayed on message as far as the economy.
00:26:08.000So if they can do that, if they can get out of their own way and actually focus on things that matter rather than race and gender, then it feels like it would be very easy for them to it should be.
00:26:20.000They can talk to you know minority groups, the you know, identity groups and say, look, we actually care about your particular issues.
00:26:29.000But if they're not talking to the average person saying, look, we have a plan that is going to help you economically, then they're not going to be able to get people to vote for them.
00:27:37.000It used to be hundreds of thousands on small trends.
00:27:39.000It's a combination of no one uses Google anymore.
00:27:43.000They're shifting to all the different AIs for search, but that is derivative.
00:27:49.000It's not actually linking you to the source material.
00:27:53.000So it just looks to me like culture is completely bifurcating.
00:27:56.000And I will give you my projection with, you know, we talked about it last night in the members only show with Nick Freitas.
00:28:03.000Because he contested my assessment when I said, if Donald Trump wanted to suspend habeas corpus, we are on the same track as 1861.
00:28:11.000And he said, absolutely not, because seven states had already seceded at that point.
00:28:15.000My rebuttal was that more than seven states have already violated federal law by allowing illegal immigrants and utilizing that to seize federal power.
00:28:23.000Yeah, it is worth noting that back in the, you know, before the Civil War, there was still kind of the general idea that states could secede, right?
00:28:32.000Like when the Constitution was signed, they said, well, we're going to join this country.
00:28:37.000And it was kind of a given that if they felt like they wanted to leave, that they would be allowed to.
00:28:43.000And my point was, where we are at right now with the election of Zorhan Mamdani in New York, we already saw right when he got elected, something like 40,000 people and businesses had fled New York City.
00:28:57.000Already half a million left over the past several years from Manhattan specifically.
00:29:02.000New York has, I believe, around 11 congressional districts.
00:29:05.000And you had back in 2018, Crowley v. AOC.
00:29:09.000And Crowley was your neo-lib, typical, you know, urban liberal fat incumbent.
00:29:22.000She's still pretty far left, but she pulled back on certain issues that resulted in criticism from the far left.
00:29:27.000AOC is now the moderate for the district.
00:29:30.000Because the conservative leaning individuals are all fleeing, now all that's left is left and far left, which means when left and far left compromise, you get further left than AOC.
00:29:54.000And he's the leader of the Democratic Party in the House.
00:29:58.000So they want to, what's going to happen is, as more conservative-leaning people flee blue districts, those blue districts will become communist explicitly.
00:30:07.000They will send members of Congress to D.C. who are explicit communists.
00:30:15.000And you are going to have this increasing polarization where in the federal Congress, if Democrats win, they are going to vote for outright communist law.
00:30:24.000That's going to result in Nebraska being like, no way will we abide by that federal law.
00:30:30.000That's what geographic hyperpolarization is doing.
00:30:32.000And the danger with Democrats winning in 2026 is not just that Trump gets impeached.
00:30:37.000It's that you're actually going to have probably around 20% of the Democrats that come in being overt socialists and pushing bills and laws that will burn this country to the ground.
00:30:48.000And to avoid the analogy innuendo, I will literally say they will enact policies that will extract value from the economy, that will drive up the national debt, disincentivize workers, incentivize mass immigration, which will displace low-skill workers.
00:31:06.000Then they'll enact large minimum wage guarantees, which will destroy small businesses, and you will get a depression like that.
00:31:14.000Yeah, I mean, I don't imagine that Donald Trump is going to be signing bills that the Democrats put on his desk.
00:31:20.000But I do think that in the next election, the next presidential election, if a Democrat wins and the Democrats still have control of the House and Senate, you're going to see serious bad policy that will get instituted.
00:31:35.000Like the Democrats still want to see Medicaid for all.
00:31:38.000And you're $30 trillion in debt in this country.
00:31:44.000And if you implement that policy, it will destroy the value of the dollar.
00:31:49.000And there's a lot of Hollywood donors right now that are pushing more for Gavin Newsom even more, despite the fact that he's made Hollywood pretty much untenable for them policy-wise.
00:31:58.000And he's going to, he would be one of those candidates that would be able to put those types of policies into effect.
00:32:04.000And it would be hard for Republicans to push back if they lose the House and the Senate.
00:32:09.000Just the fact that they would have the control of the House means that, just like Tim was saying, impeachment stuff the entire time, there will be nothing that will get done.
00:32:18.000People will blame the Republicans because they're going to say, oh, well, Donald Trump didn't get anything done.
00:32:24.000And it only makes it more likely that the Democrat wins in 2030.
00:32:28.000Well, and people are kind of, they have an issue with Republicans right now because they feel like they can't get their crap together, right?
00:32:33.000They feel like everybody's fighting with one another and nobody's presenting United Front and everybody's off on these side quests when they're not focusing on the things that they should be.
00:32:50.000The Democrats understand that, hey, you can just battery farm foreigners in your country until you have the voter base to then push across the finish line stuff like Medicare for All.
00:32:57.000Because all of this policy that they've been pushing over the last few decades, they had to wait till Obama to really start pushing.
00:33:02.000All the Obama agenda policy was being discussed in the 1980s, but they had to wait.
00:33:06.000They had to wait until they had the political capital built up to then cash in and start passing a lot of these different things.
00:33:11.000And so that's exactly what's happening again.
00:33:14.000It's not going to be like day one where it's just going to be like they're going to be spraying and praying that they can keep the border open.
00:33:19.000That allows them to rebuild the political capital they need to then spend on various nightmarish projects.
00:33:25.000The big question, though, is, is the right unified?
00:33:30.000Charlie Kirk producer hits back at Candace Owens, accusing her of inciting harassment of those close to him.
00:33:37.000Now, it is a bit, I don't know, drama to be talking about people instead of policy and politicians and not so much the politicians, but what they're doing.
00:33:46.000But Turning Point did formally respond for the first time.
00:33:50.000And the reason this story matters, it's not so much the people, it's is the right fractured?
00:33:57.000The libertarians are already pissed at Trump.
00:34:00.000And now MAGA is in internal wars following the death of Charlie Kirk.
00:34:04.000There are people fighting each other left and right.
00:34:06.000Marjorie Taylor Greene was unendorsed by Trump, then announced her resignation.
00:34:11.000Then when Mike Cernovich tweeted at her, you need to serve your full term, she tweeted at him in the weirdest way, being like, men telling women to get in the kitchen and make a sandwich.
00:34:21.000And it's like, actually, he's telling you to serve Congress.
00:34:24.000I think it's kind of the opposite, but she's snapping off.
00:34:27.000And now Candace Owens, of course, with the tweet she put out yesterday saying to demand a refront refund from the, quote, Godforsaken organization that is turning point USA, everything is being ripped apart.
00:34:39.000It is creating a prime opportunity for Democrats to win because Democrats don't suffer these kinds of bifurcations.
00:34:47.000They're cultists that that's how they're defined by their obedience to each other.
00:34:52.000Don't forget all of your favorite right-wing influencers being exposed as being from India on X like last week.
00:35:00.000Not only from India, but being paid by these, whatever this weird stuff is.
00:35:06.000This is from the Charlie Kirk show, and we'll play it for you here.
00:35:10.000This is actually the tweet is Mikey McCoy says, not all that's done in the name of truth and justice promotes truth and accomplishes justice.
00:35:17.000Thankful for the incredible Blake S. Neff and Dr. Frank Turek on the show today.
00:35:22.000I'll be happy to address all of this in the live stream with you guys.
00:35:26.000We wanted to use this segment at the top of this hour to say something important, something very important.
00:35:32.000For the past two and a half months, there is a topic that has flooded our Freedom Inbox.
00:35:37.000It has been non-stop on social media, but which we have almost totally avoided on this show.
00:35:43.000You probably already know what I'm talking about, which shows just how ubiquitous it has been.
00:35:50.000Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show.
00:36:02.000She has made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees.
00:36:08.000She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie.
00:36:19.000She has suggested Michael is not his real name.
00:36:22.000I have seen his birth certificate myself.
00:36:25.000She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way.
00:36:36.000Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a quote inside job.
00:36:44.000She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country and that Turning Point has lied about this happening.
00:36:51.000She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died.
00:36:57.000She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died.
00:37:05.000She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera.
00:37:12.000She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns.
00:37:19.000She has suggested that TPUSA faith-affiliated pastors like theologian Frank Turek, who we'll have on in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy are part of a military, quote, infiltration of Turning Point, either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are.
00:37:36.000Even if not everyone has been named specifically, though, Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying he was, quote, betrayed by, quote, everyone.
00:37:50.000She has said Charlie's murder, quote, had to be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too for quote knowing the truth.
00:38:01.000She has made claims of financial impropriety and fraud at Turning Point, adding up into the millions of dollars, which again is not true.
00:38:09.000Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third party every year.
00:38:13.000He personally reviewed and he signed off on every expense report and literally every single bill paid by the organization down to a single United States dollar.
00:38:28.000Candace has made other stranger allegations involving French paratroopers in maroon shirts, Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of Provo, Utah, and potential underground assassins traveling through unseen tunnels.
00:38:40.000At one point in early November, she started wildly throwing suspicion on members of Utah Valley's soccer team for wearing hoodies.
00:38:51.000There is always something new coming up, and none of it ever pans out because from the start, there has been nothing there.
00:38:59.000The attacks and allegations from Candace are either lies or they are innuendos thrown around with a total, reckless disregard for the truth so that Candace can manipulate and string along an audience of people who don't realize they are being played.
00:39:15.000Instead of being able to grieve properly after one of the most heinous murders in American history, a murder many of us had to witness, my friends have had to endure harassment from people who have gotten whipped up by what Candace is saying.
00:39:30.000In fact, I would say we have suffered more harassment from these people than we have from Antifa supporters who overtly celebrate Charlie's murder.
00:39:39.000And just like a lot of those Antifa members, many of these people take this delight in how gross and unpleasant they can be.
00:39:47.000What our friends have had to endure is not funny and it's not insignificant.
00:40:36.000Reviving America, uplifting young people, making heaven crowded.
00:40:40.000Don't give air to people who want to tear you down and sow discord.
00:40:45.000Lastly, we didn't respond because Charlie always viewed Candace as a friend, and we were holding out hope that she would return that friendship and stop what she was doing.
00:40:59.000But a week from now, it's going to be three months since Charlie's murder.
00:41:06.000She has continued to spread falsehoods about Charlie's friends, and she continues to concoct new ones about new people.
00:41:14.000She's using these falsehoods to enrich herself while dividing the conservative movement at an absolutely critical time for this country.
00:41:22.000And far too often, we here have heard from ordinary people, people who loved Charlie and who Charlie loved so much in return.
00:41:30.000These people have expressed the worry that we are staying silent out of cowardice or as some sort of tacit admission that some of the attacks are true.
00:42:16.000In the near future, there will be a live stream here in Phoenix where we address in a clear and comprehensive way the claims and accusations, the false accusations that have been made against Charlie's family, friends, and the people here at Turning Point.
00:42:31.000We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly.
00:42:34.000If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in that live stream at our studio here in Phoenix.
00:42:42.000At this point, we believe the ball is back in her court.
00:42:47.000Our motivation for doing this is not out of any obligation to Candace.
00:43:06.000And that is why we feel compelled to speak clearly and openly now.
00:43:10.000We'll have more on this in the near future.
00:43:13.000It is entirely possible that moving into this election season, we saw this with the Ron DeSantis fracturing, the conservatives, Trump-based fracturing.
00:43:24.000Some were saying Trump's got to return.
00:43:25.000Some were saying Ron DeSantis is the guy.
00:43:27.000Before Trump announced he was coming back, I said I liked Ron DeSantis, would probably support him.
00:43:41.000Still, there is this fracture that exists, but it's like there's like a tacit alliance between those who are just traditional conservatives supporting DeSantis, getting behind Trump even though they don't really like him.
00:43:52.000I think by the time the midterm comes around, there's a strong probability everyone's back on the same page because the Democrats are going to be coming out with insane policies that we all find ourselves at odds with.
00:44:02.000However, as of right now, everything is fractured.
00:44:06.000And I do think, I think Turning Point has, to a certain degree, some responsibility, not nearly to the degree that Candace Owens does, but and responsibility in they don't have what Charlie had.
00:44:21.000And without Charlie, you lose what made Turning Point and what built this coalition.
00:44:28.000So when I say responsibility, I just mean like an organization without its captain is not going to do as well.
00:44:33.000And there already are divisions forming.
00:44:36.000That is, and take for it, whatever you will, the issues that we've had with Turning Point where, you know, we're not going to be there for whatever reason.
00:44:48.000Then you have Candace Owens, who is doing everything in her power to destroy Turning Point, which is the principal unifying force, though it has faltered a little bit.
00:46:45.000And the greater context for you guys watching, you already know this because you watched the show, was that does she really make $10 million?
00:46:52.000Well, based on the views that she gets, she does one show that gets like 2 million views.
00:47:11.000They took it out of context, cut out the beginning where I literally say she doesn't bot.
00:47:15.000She has a mass appeal so that she could then, or not so that, but that then she takes it.
00:47:22.000And they're offering money now for proof that we bought.
00:47:25.000She is, and of course, she didn't actually tweet Tim Poole does thing, or she uses vagaries because as I explained earlier this morning, a politician can't come out and say, if you vote for me, I will do thing to Social Security.
00:47:44.000All of a sudden, you've got 775,000 people in your district and 100,000 are saying, what do you mean you're going to change the scheduling for social?
00:48:39.000It's because we're dealing with the lowest common denominator society.
00:48:43.000So right now, another thing that I explained, as I explained in great detail why Candace is not botting, is that you can choose to diversify your content and try and find things that are appealing because politics is boring.
00:49:40.000That's like romance novel writing for women where it's just like he looked at me and said, I must be like a time traveller and you're my alien.
00:49:47.000And she was like, I was his wingman telling him what to wear.
00:49:50.000You know, honestly, it sounds like she loved Charlie.
00:51:10.000I don't know the validity of anything that's going on, but from the reaction she gets from the people that listen, she obviously strikes a chord with a lot of people.
00:51:17.000Oh, there's a lot of people that are that are, you know, in my ex post or there's people, a lot of people in the, in the chat as well that are like very committed to the story that Candace is alluding to with no actual, you know, there's no, there's no there there.
00:53:30.000I mean, I actually do think that the world is for the most part pretty boring.
00:53:34.000Like a lot of times when we talk about this stuff, it's like you're curating news all day.
00:53:37.000You're gathering stuff from across the country, whereas back in the day, you maybe saw your local paper, maybe you got some national news, but you didn't get the amount of access you have to just unbelievable amounts of information, which means now the world feels like it's more crazy and haphazard than it actually is.
00:53:54.000So we got a super chat from Wyatt Caldenberg who says, just the cyber right cares, people in the real world are unfamiliar with Candace Owens, Tim Poole turning point.
00:55:44.000The question is, though, how do you dissuade people from believing this kind of stuff?
00:55:49.000You know, someone says, always, do you really believe Charlie Kirk is dead?
00:55:52.000What evidence are you ever going to present to, you know, to prove to someone that he actually is dead?
00:56:00.000I mean, I don't imagine that there is any evidence because people have already convinced themselves that, you know, even though they don't have any kind of hard facts, they're like, well, you know, and then they look at all the implications or all the innuendo and they're like, well, that does it for me.
00:56:18.000People say, oh, you know, this is the way that it's got to be.
00:56:21.000You can present all kinds of evidence to the contrary.
00:56:24.000And they're like, well, you know, we saw it with the JFK files.
00:56:27.000You saw, you know, people were like, oh, you know, that it was Israel that did it.
00:56:32.000And there was very, there was almost no mention of Israel in the JFK files, but people that believe that it was Israel, they're like, well, the fact that they're not in there proves it.
00:57:31.000But I mean, I just, there's just this general atmosphere, I think, of distrust that you just can't really do anything about.
00:57:39.000And I mean, I kind of feel sorry for the turning point people having to address it in such depth because the more information that they give, actually, it's more for people to seize on.
00:58:46.000No, they got filed in October, most likely, which means they weren't going to be made available for public review until they were reviewed themselves by the IRS.
00:59:22.000Well, in his video, he says there's a company called 110 LLC, and they received over three years $1.4 million for social digital ad placement.
00:59:32.000He then says, I went to the address and it's a parking lot.
00:59:56.000We here at Timcast have probably 20 or 30 corporations because different pieces of intellectual property sometimes require their own limited liability corporation for a variety of reasons.
01:00:04.000Tim, if you went to our address, our corporate address, you'd be like, where's the business?
01:00:10.000I don't see a building that says Timcast on it.
01:00:14.000You find a building that says Casper Coffee on it.
01:00:16.000So what he found is there is a politician in Arizona who uses this address and all of the suites listed for this business and others and has received payment from Turning Point.
01:00:28.000He then pulls in and says, why are they sending money to a parking lot?
01:00:36.000They're sending money to a corporation whose registered address is at a strip mall, likely owned by an individual who utilizes their mail intake for business registration.
01:00:48.000While this guy is claiming it's money going to a parking lot because this is how they manipulate people, Candace Owens also pointed out that her own lawyers are operating out of the same building as the feds.
01:01:00.000And when asked about it, she said, it's just a registered agent.
01:01:04.000So you simultaneously have in the comments, I think the first comment is earlier today, one of the comments was people insulted Candace for covering for calling this out.
01:01:19.000That you can't have a registered address and that Candace can have a registered address.
01:01:24.000If you believe that Turning Point was sending $1.4 million, Charlie Kirk's orders, by the way, that's his claim, to a parking lot, and the insinuation is that it's to pay off a politician because they're crooked, then Candace Owens works with the feds.
01:01:42.000And by all means, you choose your poison.
01:01:44.000If Candace has, if her lawyers are working in the same building as the feds, then I'd say she's a fed because she chose this legal, this company.
01:02:14.000That's why I'm sick of all of this stuff.
01:02:16.000People are wondering why we chose to lead with raccoons today.
01:02:19.000It's because this space is starting to fill up with desperate con artists, grifters, and scammers who are going to lie to you, manipulate you because you're ignorant of corporate filings.
01:03:28.000I mean, you can tell that the space is being dominated by women and like gay guys because the types of stuff being covered is ridiculous, unproductive, counterproductive, actually.
01:03:36.000Because I don't know if you checked the last election result, Trump's president.
01:03:39.000We have three years left to mop this mess up.
01:03:53.000And many of you in this room will as well.
01:03:55.000And so at this point, I mean, I got to say, like, this guy, I imagine what he's doing is he's like, oh boy, I'm going to get so many views from this.
01:04:07.000That's why for nearly three months, she has just said incoherent nonsense because it gets her views and makes her money.
01:04:14.000And as the system burns down, we all suffer for it.
01:04:17.000And that's why I think the left, for all we can complain about, they're willing to stand arm in arm and burn everything down.
01:04:26.000The right is full of people who are going to run ads for gambling websites and soda products and then shill for India.
01:04:34.000You know, I mean, a lot of times I think that it's because the people that are in the space on the right that are looking to capitalize on whatever is the hot topic, they don't have a particular belief in anything.
01:04:45.000And I think this kind of goes back to a bit of what we were talking about yesterday with Nick, probably in the after show.
01:04:51.000The right needs to figure out what it's for.
01:04:54.000You know, what exactly are the goals of the right?
01:04:58.000I don't even know if that's possible because there's such a widespread amount of views of the world on the right.
01:05:04.000I don't think that you can all coalesce around that idea.
01:05:06.000I think the individual nature of right-wing personalities makes that harder to do.
01:05:11.000I think you, to a degree, you have a point because the MAGA coalition is considered the right nowadays.
01:05:16.000But the argument between Dave Rubin and I forget who it was that he was talking to, but there are people that have very different views and they coalesce because they're against the woke.
01:05:29.000They were against what the left had been doing.
01:05:31.000And now, because the right is fairly ascendant and has political power, the right really needs to be able to deliver a coherent message as to what it is that the right stands for.
01:05:44.000Like we were talking about Oren McIntyre and other people in the space that are actually having real conversations about what is it that the right wants to do.
01:05:53.000Well, it's why everyone scratches their heads.
01:05:55.000Like when Trump's not on the ballot, Republicans perform poorly.
01:06:00.000Well, it's because Republicans define themselves and what they're against.
01:06:03.000They define themselves and what they're opposed to.
01:06:05.000Trump is the only figure in the GOP over the last 10 years that has provided a vision for America, that's provided what he is for, what he is pro.
01:06:12.000And that's just like fundamentally politics 101 is you have to provide something that people can buy into.
01:06:20.000Like these are conservative agendas that you can pass that are pro things rather than just holding back the Democrats.
01:06:27.000That's fundamentally what Republicans have been for the last 50 years.
01:06:30.000I understand why that's been a motivation for so many people because the things that the left has been pushing have been basically abhorrent to families, to a productive, successful society.
01:06:42.000And so, yes, it has been a good thing that there's been a broad coalition on the right or in the not left, if you want to call it that, that have stood up against the things that the left was pushing until we get an actual coherent message.
01:06:57.000I think this kind of backbiting and fighting is going to be predominant.
01:07:01.000I'm going to grab one super chat that just came in before we jump to the next story.
01:07:36.000Turning point needs to be able to go out and rally young people and register them to vote.
01:07:40.000And she's doing everything she can to destroy that.
01:07:43.000And that is going to, I suppose, it's going to rip out the coffers on the right.
01:07:51.000There is no organization like Turning Point that exists anywhere else that has the resources and the reach.
01:07:57.000And without Charlie, I'm not sure that they can make it.
01:07:59.000But I can tell you this, Candace lighting a Molotov and throwing it through the window is not helping.
01:08:04.000And it's the most demoralizing thing ever.
01:08:08.000Additionally, all of the fucking cowards on the right who are too scared to say anything about her because she tweets at me talking shit or whatever.
01:08:18.000And then a bunch of people come and flood our chat.
01:10:32.000The Democrats are trying to find a way back to reality.
01:10:36.000They published this thing where they said, oh, we've got to, you know, it's called deciding to win.
01:10:41.000And they said we have to address kitchen table issues.
01:10:44.000Like hell, I would ever vote for someone like Elizabeth Warren or Gavin Newsom.
01:10:48.000But what I think is likely to start occurring now is the grifter right is cannibalizing itself.
01:10:54.000You are going to see the right now move from a populist base more to a neocon base.
01:10:58.000Democrats are going to go to war internally over the far left.
01:11:01.000And you'll see the emergence now of these deciding to win types, which, like Stephen A. Smith, will start agreeing with people like me and Joe Rogan.
01:11:09.000And they're going to try and win back the ground.
01:11:12.000And they're going to utilize the absurdity psycho reality of Candace Owens to rip people from the right so that Democrats can start winning again.
01:11:19.000And that is the reality the right has to contend with.
01:11:55.000Maybe it all just gets ripped apart anyway, and you end up with 15 different factions all fighting for power in the federal government.
01:12:01.000All I can say is it is frustrating to look at everything that's happening in the world and realize, you know, for a brief moment, my friends, maybe this is a little bit too black pilled, but I'll say what I'm going to say.
01:13:10.000The year after presidential election, like 2021, it's always like this.
01:13:13.000In fact, our viewership today, it's bigger than it was in 2021.
01:13:17.000So there's things to be excited about.
01:13:19.000And we did have infighting over the DeSantis stuff, but it is pretty dang frustrating to see all of the hard work that was put together to stop the far left lunacy fall apart.
01:13:30.000If the deciding to win Democrat types do push out the sellout corporatists and they do push out the woke far left, commie, whatever, maybe the Democrats will emerge as the alternative to the lunacy of the pathetic right and they'll start winning back people who will consider themselves disaffected Republicans.
01:13:49.000Me and Tate were talking about the rise of Stephen A. Smith a while back.
01:13:54.000Yeah, well, but to Tim's point, like, this is what's so frustrating is because it's almost cool to not take anything seriously anymore.
01:14:00.000It's almost cool to be the person that's in on the secret and like, I have this hidden esoteric knowledge that sometimes the most boring reality is the reality, which is the reality that Trump is president.
01:14:11.000This is the most viable option to save this country.
01:14:13.000Get behind him because you do not understand what is coming for you when Trump, you know, if something, if this fails, if this project fails.
01:14:20.000I just got someone pointed this out, and it's a great point.
01:14:24.000This guy who made this video, Wolves in Finance, who he's like fraud at Turning Point, and he's like, I went to this address and said that I can't find the business anywhere.
01:15:18.000So this is actually really interesting because, you know, Alex Stein always makes the joke that we should allow trans people in women's sports because then you can bet on them and you'll always win.
01:16:11.000They say one prominent figure making and predicting these wagers who goes by Fade Me Bets Online has garnered thousands of likes and shares on Instagram for his menstrual cycle betting strategy.
01:17:10.000By this, he says the victim is the betting line.
01:17:13.000The odds set out in the sports book that determines a person's payout, not the player herself.
01:17:17.000He then shares predictions about whether a specific player is menstruating, ovulating, or in their late luteal phase, which occurs after ovulation and before the period comes.
01:17:31.000She is on the end of her late luteal phase, meaning a decrease in cardio, decrease in strength, decrease in aerobic system.
01:17:37.000She's going to be tired more often than in a normal game.
01:17:40.000Fade Me Bets told viewers to bet the under on Clark that game, projecting that she'd score lower than the number predicted by odds makers on sports betting apps.
01:17:51.000The teams need to hire the guy like from Moneyball to do this for the other team to start putting like saber metrics, start putting rating systems to their periods.
01:18:00.000Yeah, they're going to time up the cycles because you don't want five players that all have like the same time.
01:18:04.000So you need to like, when you're building your roster, you have to make sure everyone's spaced out across the world.
01:18:07.000If they spend enough time together, they'll all sync up.
01:18:11.000I mean, you could do this for the men in the NBA, but when their wives have their periods, because they might not be playing well either because their wife is being rude to them at that time.
01:18:41.000I've produced a bunch of different kinds of content from travel documentaries, news travel stories, and news podcasts more recently in the past several years.
01:18:51.000Viewership and interest in politics is gone.
01:18:55.000And it's gone because of people like Candace Owens and this other guy who, uh, Wolf and Finance is whatever his name is, who are lying too much.
01:19:05.000But it's also just that politics isn't something that can be developed, it happens around you.
01:19:12.000And so, what's happening now with stories like this is that if you look at what Gen Z is interested in, it ain't politics.
01:19:18.000Millennials were very interested in this over the past 10 or so years because of Gamergate.
01:19:22.000But this might actually be a very good thing.
01:19:25.000If politics stops being pop culture, maybe people will start focusing on WNBA players' menstrual cycles instead.
01:19:33.000They'll stop believing crackpot stories and they'll stop voting for stupid things.
01:19:38.000And then voter turnout will decrease, but it will remain solid among those like us who deeply care about these issues.
01:19:46.000I think the power of a well-told story or whatever is too powerful.
01:19:52.000I think that, like, when we were talking about JFK earlier, how powerful was the discussion around the JFK assassination?
01:19:58.000The only difference is now it happens at light speed because of the internet, whereas before it took longer for that to reach critical mass within society.
01:20:07.000Well, I think, you know, we clip out this segment, it'll perform better than 90% of the political stuff that we do.
01:20:15.000When we talk about space weather, it outperforms everything to guarantee.
01:20:20.000Well, I mean, we got a big space weather story.
01:20:22.000People are really fascinated to know about these solar storms and the auroras that are flying over everywhere.
01:20:57.000Well, I was just saying, I mean, because people now, people on the right are discussing this is that, look, the major issue with democracy as a whole is that the more people participating, the worse the policy gets.
01:21:07.000And it's kind of the same thing with political commentaries.
01:21:10.000The more participation, the more eyeballs, in a lot of ways, the more watered down the discourse gets because, yeah, you're trying to capture the biggest audience possible, which incentivizes you to like Mr. Beast to fire your content.
01:21:20.000No offense to Mr. Beast, but not great for political polemics.
01:21:56.000I don't know if they're actually paying close attention to the cycles or if they just think it's funny to put money down on a woman because of her menstrual cycles.
01:22:03.000I would argue while the story gets attention because it's funny and weird, I mean, it's true.
01:22:11.000Like, obviously, a woman's menstrual cycle is going to impact her ability to place physical sports.
01:22:17.000Yeah, sports bettors are like actually the high-level ones obviously are like super pragmatic.
01:22:21.000Like they're reading traffic, how much traffic there is for the away team on the way to the game because it's going to frustrate the players more.
01:22:28.000And then they like, that impacts the money line.
01:22:30.000Like there's so many factors that they the temperature for which the players have played in before because it might affect if it's hotter or colder out.
01:22:37.000These guys used to be like our botanists and our great scientists and now they're like tracking WNB players' menstrual cycles.
01:22:43.000Brett, to your point, you know, the betting is different on NFL games depending on the weather, if they're if it's an outdoor stadium or whatever.
01:22:52.000What a player's record is in cold weather versus warm weather.
01:23:10.000If I make a video about like, so I did a video the other day where it's an old video, but it got attention recently because this woman is suing.
01:23:18.000She's a far-left activist, and some guy went to a convention.
01:23:21.000It was the Asian Pacific Economic Convention or whatever.
01:24:06.000And she had to get her mouth wired shut, a couple hundred thousand views on that.
01:24:11.000I do a video about something very esoteric and political.
01:24:15.000It's just not going to perform well at all.
01:24:18.000I mean, perform well, 100 and something thousand on YouTube, and then, you know, like 30 or something on Rumble, and then maybe 30 on like Facebook and stuff like that.
01:24:25.000But you make a video, like I'll put it this way: I could take a random video of a random guy punching another random guy and get more views than talking about politics.
01:24:38.000I mean, that's even true in our space.
01:24:39.000We did, like, I had videos do better talking about Black Friday scams than anything to do with Marvel or DC, anything like that.
01:24:47.000It used to be true that videos about Trump's incursion in Hollywood got people lots of views because he's always trying to, whether it's talking about Seth Meyers or any of these guys, him talking about wanting to make specific movies with Paramount Studios.
01:25:02.000Now it doesn't do as well as it used to because people are just over it.
01:25:05.000Let's jump to this story from the post-millennial.
01:25:08.000Women supporters swarm Manhattan Courthouse to glimpse Luigi Mangioni in court appearance.
01:25:14.000Dozens of supporters began lining up over the weekend with some individuals camping out in front of the building in temperatures below freezing.
01:25:49.000There's truth to that, but also like women have the fantasy of a powerful man that could do an immense amount of violence to do it to them.
01:26:13.000You know, the attraction of the beast is the beast is powerful and he, you know, can kill people or do what, you know, be a lord or whatever, but he is smitten for Belle and he won't hurt her.
01:27:06.000The women are, the women are not okay.
01:27:08.000I know the young men, like, that's where all the like, this is kind of this really annoying thing because conservative media really likes to talk down young men and be like, this is all your fault.
01:28:40.000So, okay, is that the government's fault?
01:28:42.000Is that the olive branch with the left?
01:28:44.000It's like, okay, can we pay off the student loans and you guys calm down?
01:28:47.000This is how we make money without having to actually work all day.
01:28:50.000I'm going to AI generate a series of books where it's always about a young woman with student loan debt and then various creatures, animals, and men who are abusive but pay off their debt.
01:29:03.000So we do one where it's like she can't find a job and pay off her debt.
01:29:07.000So she goes to like a construction yard and finds an illegal immigrant and it'll be called something like, you know, Pedro, My Only Hope or something.
01:29:14.000And then he's like, I will work construction and pay off your bills, but I'm illegal.
01:29:17.000So if anyone finds out, I'll be deported.
01:30:19.000It's this weird thing where it's like the degenerate aspects of sexuality are like encouraged and promoted in society.
01:30:26.000So you have like these smut books and whatnot.
01:30:28.000And on the men's side, like pornography is outright promoted at this point.
01:30:32.000But then the healthy aspects of sexuality are like completely repressed and shamed.
01:30:35.000Like men just simply like expressing romantic interest in women.
01:30:40.000Even women like, you know, desiring to present themselves in more feminine ways, feminine ways, attractive partner, is also discouraged by society.
01:30:47.000So we have this complete inversion where it's, yeah, the most degenerate aspects of sexuality are like praise and encouraged.
01:30:59.000And it's not like just, it's not presented as terribly disturbing, which it is, which it is.
01:31:04.000But this is, this is where we're going, I guess.
01:31:07.000So, you know, I wonder what's, you know, what we talk about with the Neuralink stuff.
01:31:12.000Apparently, there's like a big breakthrough recently where they can implant Neuralink cables or whatever into your brain really fast now.
01:31:20.000And I was saying that, you know, people are going to plug their brain and then be like a knight fighting a dragon or whatever.
01:31:26.000And, you know, that's obviously the family-friendly version of what's really going to happen.
01:31:30.000It's going to be a raccoon in a liquor store.
01:31:32.000Bro, you're like, first of all, if people have the ability to wire their brains and then experience any kind of reality they want, yes, there will be people who do liquor store raccoon simulator.
01:33:35.000Yeah, it's female degeneracy on display.
01:33:39.000And it's obviously because the media can't bring themselves to criticize women.
01:33:46.000It's always portrayed as either quirky and silly or just outright something that you shouldn't have to do.
01:33:54.000Because they prepare the audience for it, right?
01:33:57.000They can criticize porn because they can criticize the men who watch porn, but they don't want to criticize the women who do it because that would be slut shaming.
01:34:04.000Yeah, I mean, that's been the good, it's been the big like dilemmas, the good man scarcity, that Scott Greers name that's like, yeah, they just slam men all day, and that's all, most of it's justified, but it's like, that's kind of everyone young, it's struggling.
01:34:18.000For a lot of the women, you're not allowed to criticize individuals, right?
01:34:20.000Like I was doing this thing earlier where this woman wrote this very long article about Ariana Grande being as skinny as she is now and talking about the return of women that look like stick thin.
01:34:30.000And basically she's like, I'm not here to body shame her.
01:34:33.000I'm not here to shame her or any of these other people.
01:34:54.000As we mentioned, it used to be that you had five TV channels, 50 million people watched one show, and everybody the next day was talking about the one thing they all saw and they all agreed on.
01:37:01.000When we're talking about the end of the monoculture, people need to understand.
01:37:08.000I would estimate a double-digit percentage of America are already spending all their time on ChatGPT and just being told what they want to hear.
01:37:16.000This is going to transform once we get instant universal video generation, which Grok almost is.
01:37:23.000You can go on Grok and you can generate basically, I'm pretty sure it's unlimited videos.
01:37:28.000When you go on Grok to make an image, it makes like 12 images at once.
01:37:32.000Then you can click it and turn it to a video.
01:37:34.000We'll mess around with it on the uncensored portion of the show and we'll show some examples.
01:37:39.000People are already probably just creating their own miniature universes.
01:37:43.000And every year it's going to exponentially increase.
01:37:45.000And I think it's intentional because the average person is going to tune out the news.
01:37:50.000They're going to tune out culture in general.
01:37:52.000They're going to make as little money as they need just to sit in their room and watch the fake, fake virtual world they want to live in.
01:37:58.000And then once they create the fake virtual world, they're going to beg Elon Musk to plug their brain into it.
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01:41:09.000Devin Grissom says, Candace using a plethora of words without saying anything leads me to believe she was crushing it on high school essays that had word count requirements.
01:41:27.000I don't know that I agree with that, but I do think that the impulse is still there.
01:41:33.000Metho says, Candace is turning my brother into an effing Groyper Nazi POS.
01:41:38.000She is preying on people who are new to politics since Charlie was murdered.
01:41:42.000Well, she's preying on anybody who's not paying attention and doesn't intend to watch anything beyond one video of hers.
01:41:49.000And the problem is, you start watching that content, and if it's a movie or a TV show, it's a story, right?
01:41:55.000And there's less harm in that because you're talking about fake characters.
01:41:59.000But when you start doing it in the real world, it gets a lot harder if you're not willing to then watch all the content and then do your own research into whatever she's talking about and back up the claims because you can't just go based on that.
01:42:11.000I think a lot of this started in COVID because people lost their trust in the system during COVID, and a lot of people were exposing a lot of malfeasance from the government.
01:42:20.000But it became a bit of a, you know, like a show for a lot of people to look at people talking about these things and exposing them now.
01:42:29.000So it's a lot harder to pin down where reality ends and the show begins.
01:42:36.000Man, Quantum Cool says the Republican base is fractured.
01:42:39.000However, if we can push back the Democrats enough, they will go the way of the Federalists before the Republican Party splits in two and becomes two different pro-IS parties.
01:42:50.000So I have no problem with the name of part.
01:42:52.000I mean, like, if the idea, if the Democrats actually became normal again and got rid of the commies and the corporatists, then sure, fine, right?
01:43:00.000If you had a Democrat pop up for Congress who was like, you know, Stephen A. Smith isn't perfect because he still tries to pander.
01:43:07.000But if you, if, well, I guess the problem is the Democrats, you'll never, you'll never, you'll never win because they're all insane.
01:43:14.000But Fetterman still votes for the stupid stuff.
01:43:17.000So I guess what I'm saying is, I'll put it this way, I don't think there's any reality where I could win a Republican election, nor could I win a Democrat election.
01:43:55.000Well, I do think that a lot of the anti-Israel stuff, well, certainly there's a lot of legitimate U.S. anti-Israel stuff, I think a lot of it's third world.
01:44:02.000Well, I shouldn't say third world, but foreign countries.
01:44:20.000So yeah, it's like a lot of it is third world.
01:44:23.000I mean, again, there's like plenty of meat on the bone there with Israel, but I'm just saying when someone named you can look at these people and people's engagement that are like tapping in and getting like thousands and thousands of reach.
01:44:34.000When you go, that's like all Pakistani flags.
01:44:53.000I think that there's a large crossover of anti-Israel people that when was the last time she actually talked about conservative political values?
01:45:01.000Bridget McCrone being a man isn't conservative.
01:45:06.000Blake Lively is not a conservative thing.
01:45:08.000Turning point conspiracies is not a conservative thing.
01:45:10.000I mean, Blake Lively's stuff kind of got drawn into like Me Too type stuff at work, which has a political bend to it, though it's not politics.
01:47:01.000I appreciate the $5, but I have to apply it to my AOC derangement syndrome, my Adam Schiff derangement syndrome, my Eric Swalwell derangement syndrome, my Chuck Schumer derangement syndrome.
01:47:13.000Infinitely more people that I've criticized than just her before I even get to the therapy sessions over Candace, I got to go through every single Democrat scumbag, not to mention the Krasensteins, Hassan Piker.
01:47:52.000I look, spend time with your family and your loved ones.
01:47:55.000I spend as much time with my wife when I'm not at work as I can.
01:47:59.000I skate a lot, and that is a huge way to help with that.
01:48:01.000I watch movies and television shows from prior to 2016.
01:48:05.000Like just going outside and getting out there in the physical space and feeling the sun on your face goes a long way in keeping you.
01:48:12.000Again, I know that Twitter, the idea that Twitter is not real life isn't necessarily true anymore, but it is true that when you go out into the real world and you spend time there, this stuff, while it is important, will shrink in its significance in your brain.
01:48:31.000The inactivity of the boomers and Gen Xers in the 80s to the 2000s, their general disinterest with politics resulted in the 2008 financial crash.
01:48:44.000As people began to stop paying attention to what was going on, and I know people largely did, but most people did not.
01:48:58.000You ended up getting, well, it was team, Democrat, team, Republican.
01:49:01.000You ended up getting the financial crisis, which caused a fertility crisis, which is causing all of these crises we're seeing now.
01:49:09.000If we all revert back to, you know what, I'm not going to pay attention anymore, the end result is going to be it all just blows up one day because it's already sinking.
01:49:17.000The only reason it's not completely sunk is because there is a faction of populists on the right, largely, that are like, this has to stop.
01:49:25.000But as the ship is sinking, you have people who are basically saying, let's just extract everything we can as it all goes down.
01:50:06.000I mean, I do think that there's a level of despondency because particularly on the right, because people have had high hopes with Donald Trump being elected again, they're like, oh, Donald Trump's going to come in and do all these things.
01:50:18.000And you see it all across the political spectrum of people, or not political spectrum, but all across the right of people saying, well, Donald Trump hasn't done this and Donald Trump hasn't done that.
01:50:26.000He hasn't accomplished whatever particular pet project that they believed that he was going to do right away.
01:50:32.000And I think that that tends to turn people off.
01:50:35.000And people are like, well, if he's not going to do it, then screw him, screw the Republicans, et cetera.
01:50:39.000And you see it a lot on social media with people talking about politics.
01:50:43.000They're like, oh, the Republicans aren't going to do anything.
01:50:46.000And I think that that does create a level of despondency.
01:51:28.000And then when Trump doesn't do the thing that they want him to do, whether he has the authority to do it or not, they're just like, ah, well, screw it then.
01:51:37.000And I understand the frustration because, you know, you want to see the policies that you voted for implemented.
01:51:42.000You want to see more people, like deportations is a big deal to a lot of people.
01:51:48.000And I think that the administration is saying that there's been 2 million people deported, which is, you know, that's a considerable amount of people.
01:51:55.000But the amount of people that actually came in during the Biden administration, it's not even close to enough.
01:51:59.000So there are people that are just like, oh, you know, nothing ever happens.
01:52:50.000I think to Tim's point, like, the world actually is so wild.
01:52:53.000The stories are so wild that people are, the level of like wildness keeps raising and people keep getting numb to that level as it continues to tick upwards.
01:54:30.000Like Charlie Kirk's assassination, I think, shattered the veil of whatever this political circumstance was.
01:54:37.000Now, I'm not saying it's not going to get worse or who knows, but that was a moment where people kind of were just like, I think a lot of people are like, I'm done.
01:54:49.000You've told me about tariffs 800 times already.
01:54:51.000You've told me about immigration 800 times already.
01:55:36.000So, Candace is like, they have a penis.
01:55:40.000And it's like, okay, she's found a way to one-up the dopamine trigger beyond the news cycle by being crazy, by saying things that are just outlandish, or it's innuendo and vague.
01:56:44.000I guess if you found a new villain, Israel, you've got something.
01:56:48.000They're the universal villain, you know.
01:56:50.000And now the war in Gaza is basically over, but it's still, you know, the topic that gets a ton of people fired up because there are people that believe they have too much influence in the United States policy.
01:57:46.000But I can tell you this: when you change distributors, there's like podcasts aren't like YouTube where you can upload a video and it's just there on YouTube.
01:57:54.000For podcasting, it's typically they will be good service and you upload it to your service and then provide the RSS to a bunch of other platforms so it appears.
01:58:03.000So if it's not an Apple and Spotify, it could be that the RSS broke, something as simple as that.
01:58:07.000It could be that they moved to a new provider.
01:58:10.000So now Apple and Spotify are calling to dead links so it doesn't pull up anymore.
01:58:16.000Or it could be that they removed him because Charlie died.
01:58:18.000That's literally like my, there was my favorite podcast of all time was this guy who did a podcast about the show person of interest.
01:58:26.000And apparently like the links got taken down years ago and I bug him on X to like, I'm like, can you like, I know it would be like an insane amount of your time, but could you re-upload these somewhere because I want them?
01:59:14.000Like, I think Megan Kelly was scared to criticize Candace because she's scared that Candace Owens' audience would attack her or come after her and she'd lose subscribers or whatever.
01:59:26.000And if you go to war and you're the aggressor, someone's going to choose and then you're going to lose money or whatever.
01:59:30.000That's why when Ben Shapiro said to Megan Kelly that Candace insinuating Erica Kirk killed Charlie is evil, Megan was just like very standoffish and then later came out and said she never said that when it's like, she said literally everything around that.
01:59:43.000So any like when, so let me just put it this way.
01:59:48.000You know what really pushes me to the limit?
01:59:50.000When there are three young guys that I meet and they're like, do you really think Erica killed Charlie?
01:59:54.000And I was like, do you watch Candace's show?
02:00:07.000But you implied that either she's working alongside the people who killed Charlie and she's not smart enough to realize what's happening.
02:00:13.000She's ignorant of what's going on or she was involved.
02:00:16.000So when I meet people on the street and they're asking me about it and they think Erica killed Charlie, I'm like, wow, Candace is really going off the rails and causing problems and hurting people.
02:02:23.000And some people just don't realize it's fake.
02:02:25.000Then you got people like Sam Cedar, who just literally makes a living taking clips of me out of context to trick people because he is evil.
02:03:27.000I've been putting out audio versions of the podcast as well.
02:03:30.000If you guys follow us over there on Say Spotify, you can find those episodes and all the segments I've been putting out on YouTube and Rumble.
02:05:18.000He absolutely orally rapes a little boy.
02:05:22.000It's one thing if Vecna grabbed the kid and then jammed something in his throat and dumped fluid in his stomach.
02:05:31.000That's still kind of weird, but horror-esque and not that big a deal.
02:05:34.000You know, putting worms or someone in some of his body is fine.
02:05:37.000The issue is he pins him against the wall, the tentacle goes up to his mouth and goes over his mouth and then starts pumping his mouth full of fluid.
02:05:45.000And then Vecna leans back and goes, oh, and I'm like, Yeah, okay.
02:06:03.000So I watched it, and that wasn't what came to mind for me personally.
02:06:07.000When Vecna leans back, rolls his eyes back while his tube is in a child's mouth, and it's squirting, and he's going, oh, I'm like, what the fuck are they doing?
02:06:18.000You know, like I said, that's not what came to mind for me when I saw it.
02:06:23.000You saw him lean his head back like he was busting a load?
02:06:25.000I don't recall that, but uh, that was it for me.
02:06:29.000If he didn't lean back like it was a shot in a porno, I would have been like, Well, you know, it's kind of weird.
02:06:36.000I can understand what Jack is saying, but that I went like, oh my God, yeah, the discussion.
02:06:41.000The discussion that I had with people about that scene is like, depending on whether you watched it in the show or whether you watch it after Jack made his post about it, where he turns it into the issue of the discussion about what happens, it might predispose you to what you're saying, like saying Phil saw it and he's like, he doesn't even remember the part you're talking about.
02:06:57.000But when I saw the reaction from Vecna, I was like, oh, you saw it?
02:09:53.000Do you think there is sexual innuendo analogy with a male adult creature putting a tentacle into a boy's mouth and pumping him full of fluid while he throws his head back and then strokes his head that that goes in?
02:10:09.000I don't think that that was the intent.
02:11:19.000Like, to depict that in a movie, male rape.
02:11:23.000I mean, you know, and the facehugger is kind of like a mixture of a vagina and I mean, there's something kind of feminine about the facehugger, but also masculine, the kind of penis.
02:11:59.000Apparently, they've already revealed one of the endings, not directly, but they said it's a fan favorite.
02:12:06.000And the response from the fans was, the ending they're talking about is after the battle is over, the camera is going to show them in the basement playing DD.
02:12:15.000And they're going to be like, wow, that was fun.
02:12:38.000Right now, I'm just looking at the YouTube player and I'm like, I'm looking at Triton Poker Cash Game has only 763 people watching and I'm just like.
02:12:47.000What was the last, like for everyone around the table, what was the last piece of entertainment that you saw that you actually thought was original?
02:13:23.000And you walk out thinking, could I remember all of the hits of, you know, if I had to remember all the All That Remains songs overnight, would I be able to do it?