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00:00:43.000 ladies and gentlemen the world's richest man is battling out over

00:00:50.000 hurricane relief challenging Pete Buttigieg on why they're so bad at

00:00:55.000 getting people internet and basic supplies. To me this is the funniest

00:00:59.000 thing and also one of the most tragic things that we need Elon Musk to step in

00:01:03.000 and tell the government hey You should probably help the people who pay your salaries.

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00:06:09.000 I'm back. Okay. Finally, let's get into our first story of the night.

00:06:15.000 We'll pull this one from NBC. Buttigieg claps back at Elon Musk for false claims about a lean federal response.

00:06:21.000 So I'm going to jump over to this tweet.

00:06:24.000 Elon Musk posted this text exchange that he had.

00:06:27.000 He said, received this, this is about six hours ago, received this 20 minutes ago.

00:06:31.000 The level of belligerent government incompetence is staggering.

00:06:35.000 Two exclamation points.

00:06:37.000 And he is communicating with someone about what's going on with FEMA. The person he's texting says, So we've heard a couple reports like this that federal officials on the ground are resisting efforts from skilled private citizens who have the experience, maybe volunteer firefighters and different groups, who want to help the thousands of people who have been impacted by the hurricane in North Carolina and Tennessee and Georgia.

00:07:15.000 I think we're good to go.

00:07:33.000 And it seems like this is not something that the federal governments or at least the people on the ground were being very cooperative with.

00:07:42.000 But in response, Pete Buttigieg said, no one is shutting down the airspace and FAA doesn't block legitimate rescue and recovery flights.

00:07:52.000 If you are encountering a problem, give me a call.

00:07:55.000 Did he give his phone number out?

00:07:59.000 Call that man!

00:08:00.000 Call that man!

00:08:02.000 So, Elon Musk ultimately responded to that.

00:08:05.000 Thanks for the call. So, I guess Pete Buttigieg called Elon Musk and said, hopefully we can resolve this soon.

00:08:11.000 To me, in addition to all of the hurricane issues, in addition to how important it is to stay conscious of what your neighbors need and the best way to serve other people, I think we should point out the fact that Elon Musk...

00:08:22.000 Bought X and is now forcing the federal government to take accountability for what's going on.

00:08:27.000 I mean, his post has over 11 million impressions.

00:08:29.000 That's more than most TV shows will ever get.

00:08:32.000 This is an incredible tool. And it's nice to see someone as influential as Elon Musk using it to really draw attention to where it's interesting.

00:08:39.000 I mean, didn't he help Ukraine with they let him they were like pumped about him letting Ukraine have Starlink?

00:08:45.000 Yeah, it went wrong about that.

00:08:46.000 Yeah, but but not for a hurricane relief.

00:08:49.000 No, it doesn't seem like they're being treated the same way.

00:08:52.000 Hmm. It's good Jack Dorsey doesn't own Twitter anymore, because he might have put a community footnote under Elon Musk's tweet and tried to censor it since it didn't bode well for the government.

00:09:02.000 So I'm glad Elon's not only opining on Twitter, but he's also the CEO. You know, not only is Musk, you know, I think most people are aware, like, Musk is not only doing this, but he's also the guy that's, you know, sending a rocket up to the...

00:09:16.000 International Space Station to bring the two astronauts back that Boeing couldn't manage to do.

00:09:23.000 He's obviously he's assisted the US government in Ukraine.

00:09:27.000 It's clear that the federal government is hostile to him because they've got all kinds of investigations.

00:09:34.000 They're doing all they can to hinder launching Starship.

00:09:39.000 And it's all because of politics.

00:09:42.000 It's all because Elon Musk owns Twitter and uses the platform to say things that are not

00:09:50.000 complementary to the federal government.

00:09:52.000 And really, of the social media sites that are at least, you know, of reasonable size,

00:09:59.000 Twitter's really the only one that's not in lockstep with, at least with the mainstream

00:10:03.000 Maybe they're not all MSNBC. There's a little hope with Zuckerberg saying things like, oh, I consider myself a libertarian, which we'll see.

00:10:11.000 You're still making Instagram into Facebook.

00:10:13.000 I'm not a fan of Meta's properties generally, and the only one that I use with any frequency is Instagram.

00:10:22.000 But it's nice to at least see some kind of recognition that, hey, maybe it wasn't such a great idea to be so...

00:10:31.000 So complacent, yeah, well complacent with the federal government.

00:10:34.000 I mean, either it is, it should have been obvious to these companies that the federal

00:10:40.000 government has an agenda that is not aligned with the intended purpose of the federal government,

00:10:48.000 which is to remain neutral.

00:10:49.000 The federal government is not supposed to have an opinion on who gets elected.

00:10:54.000 And they strongly put their, you know, put as much influential information out as they

00:10:59.000 can nowadays, and that's something that is a problem.

00:11:00.000 And that's something that is a problem.

00:11:02.000 So and to see the federal government looking to, you know, a private citizen that has so

00:11:08.000 much, so much to offer to the country when it comes to, you know, things like Starlink

00:11:13.000 and things like disaster relief and stuff like that, to see, to look at him as, you

00:11:19.000 know, to be so hostile to him, I think it clearly puts the federal government in a bad

00:11:19.000 know, to be so hostile to him.

00:11:21.000 I think it clearly puts the federal government in a bad light, or at least this

00:11:24.000 administration. FEMA is running damage control right now on Twitter.

00:11:24.000 light, or at least this administration.

00:11:28.000 If you go to their page, they have a whole bunch of things.

00:11:29.000 Rumor has it this, the rumors.

00:11:31.000 It's not true. Starlink comes in.

00:11:33.000 What happens? We get stories on the ground from people because Internexus, they can show

00:11:37.000 you video in real time.

00:11:38.000 This is what is happening.

00:11:39.000 Yeah, I think that's that's important to point out.

00:11:41.000 I mean, if people are not able to contact their loved ones, they're definitely not in a position to contact their local news reporters or to post on their own X accounts and give on-the-ground feedback.

00:11:52.000 I want to call attention to one thing that Pete Buttigieg said, which is the FAA doesn't block legitimate rescue and recovery flights.

00:11:59.000 It reminds me of what Biden was saying a little bit earlier this week.

00:12:01.000 President Biden said, you know, I'm going to go down, but I'm going to wait until it's not disruptive to emergency services.

00:12:07.000 And there is one version of this that is honorable, right?

00:12:10.000 Like, it's not about his prowess.

00:12:12.000 It's about making sure people get the things they need.

00:12:14.000 On the other hand, I don't think anyone believed that was genuine.

00:12:18.000 Is this sort of a legitimate concern for the government that its search and rescue should take priority over things like Starlink?

00:12:24.000 Or is it actually just kind of a dodge because both things could be happening at the same time?

00:12:28.000 Well, that method didn't work for the border, and there was an emergency down there, right?

00:12:31.000 Their presence or their absence of their presence didn't really fix that.

00:12:34.000 And on top of this, these people need help.

00:12:38.000 And I can't help but think there is that saying, if we don't pay taxes, who's going to fix the roads?

00:12:44.000 I'm looking at Americans coming and saving Americans and the government getting in the way of that.

00:12:49.000 I think it's also a tale as old as time because private entities usually work much more efficaciously to get things done because there's not the bureaucracy that you have with government entities.

00:13:01.000 And I think the government takes umbrage at that and gets angry when they see a private entity doing something better than they can.

00:13:08.000 So not only is the government slow moving and not doing anything, they then lambast

00:13:13.000 the private entity that's doing it better than them because it makes them look bad.

00:13:17.000 And so I think we're seeing that play out with the border, as he mentioned, and now

00:13:20.000 with Elon Musk.

00:13:21.000 You're reminding me that there's this report out that Dolly Parton, who's famously from

00:13:26.000 Tennessee, very devoted to the state, just gave, I think it's a million dollars to start

00:13:30.000 hurricane relief efforts because her response is basically like, these are my people, these

00:13:34.000 are my neighbors.

00:13:35.000 I think that altruism from the private sector, the individual wealthy person doing something

00:13:42.000 And maybe our dependency on the federal government has sort of lulled us out of that mentality that it's our responsibility.

00:13:47.000 Right. It's like a shining example of like the success of capitalism over government control.

00:13:53.000 And they don't like that.

00:13:55.000 Do you think that Americans are going to pay attention to this for the next six weeks?

00:14:01.000 Are we afraid this story is going to fade to the background?

00:14:04.000 I don't think that there's—I'm not sure about six weeks, but I don't think that there's the option of not paying attention for the next couple weeks because, you know, these rescue efforts are going to be going on for a while.

00:14:14.000 I've heard that the death toll is 200, but there's probably over 1,000 missing.

00:14:19.000 And those people that are missing are—I mean, it's terrible to say, but they're not likely just, like, wandering in the woods.

00:14:25.000 Entire towns were wiped off the map.

00:14:27.000 And if you know anything about the topography of the area— You're not building your towns on the tops of the mountains.

00:14:35.000 They're built alongside these rivers and streams that run through the valleys and the hollers of North Carolina.

00:14:41.000 So the water that came and swept these towns away, like, it's nowadays, unfortunately, or at this point in time, this far after the initial deluge of water, it's not a rescue effort.

00:14:56.000 It's a recovery effort. And what does rebuilding look like in this area?

00:15:00.000 I was listening to this report yesterday that was saying basically in – this is the Blue Ridge Mountains, I believe.

00:15:05.000 It's a lot of second homes.

00:15:07.000 Like there is – there are houses that were destroyed that are vacation homes.

00:15:11.000 But that means that the blue-collar working class people who live there are often displaced and don't really have the resources or industry to sort of move on and recover.

00:15:20.000 I mean if Asheville, North Carolina is struggling and that's the nearest big city, these more rural towns that don't have the housing inventory – Because it's partially vacation and because it has now been destroyed, what are they going to do?

00:15:31.000 Hurt their economy really bad.

00:15:33.000 And I think this brings out another point, which is reality over rhetoric.

00:15:38.000 And lots of times I think the left likes to showcase lofty rhetoric about how much they care about people.

00:15:44.000 people, but then when we actually see something happen where something needs to be done, they're

00:15:49.000 not doing much.

00:15:50.000 And so I think they've really become experts at mastering the rhetoric, but when it comes

00:15:55.000 to reality, they really don't do much.

00:15:57.000 And so it's good that private entities and people like Elon Musk and Dali, as you mentioned,

00:16:02.000 can kind of step in, because that's all we have, not just with the Democrats, but sometimes

00:16:07.000 with Republicans, is just rhetoric.

00:16:09.000 But I think we see it much more often on the left.

00:16:12.000 Yeah. I wonder if this concern, I think you guys have all heard this too, that so many of these counties that were impacted are red.

00:16:21.000 There are likely counties that Trump will carry in the election.

00:16:24.000 If they will feel more disenfranchised now that the recovery efforts are slow, but then also feel like they don't have outlets.

00:16:32.000 I mean, I don't totally know what the plan is for voting in these areas.

00:16:35.000 If you don't really have electricity for homes, I'm not sure your polling place is standing.

00:16:39.000 Yeah. I've heard some people, like left-leaning people, saying some pretty atrocious things that it's a positive for the Democrats and stuff.

00:16:54.000 I mean, whereas they may be correct, it may be hard to get votes, people from that area of voting, the fact that it comes to mind is kind of just gross.

00:17:04.000 By any means necessary.

00:17:06.000 That is their mantra, right?

00:17:08.000 I mean, it's hard to look at tragedies, and this wouldn't be the first one of the year, where they have looked at it and went, great, we're glad that's happening to you.

00:17:14.000 I'm obviously making an allusion to...

00:17:16.000 The attempt on Donald Trump's life in Butler, Pennsylvania in July.

00:17:20.000 And, you know, as we all know, Trump is returning to the same spot this weekend. 0.99

00:17:25.000 The balls. This is Donald Trump kind of embodying resiliency. 0.84

00:17:48.000 He's saying, I'm going to go back and I'm going to keep pushing and I'm going to keep fighting.

00:17:52.000 And I think that's interesting when there are so many Americans who are probably right now thinking like, You know, they're in very desperate times.

00:18:20.000 And Tim's like, I don't think that'll even work anymore.

00:18:23.000 And here we are.

00:18:25.000 We see a disaster that's affected both sides of the fence.

00:18:27.000 And where are the songs?

00:18:29.000 I don't think that...

00:18:30.000 Yeah, Phil, where are the songs?

00:18:31.000 Well, there are songs. I'm just kidding.

00:18:33.000 I don't think that a natural disaster would pull people together the way that an attack would.

00:18:41.000 So hypothetically, if there was an attack that had thousands of people that passed away that were victims, that might do it.

00:18:49.000 What if one side just blames the other side?

00:18:51.000 Well, I mean, that's possible. I think we need aliens.

00:18:55.000 Something totally different. Well, I saw this post on X today.

00:18:58.000 Oh, my gosh. Send it.

00:19:00.000 I saw this post on X today that was, like, comparing and contrasting the New York Times.

00:19:03.000 And the New York Times... You know, during Katrina basically had wall-to-wall coverage of what was going on.

00:19:08.000 There were cover efforts and the responses and all of this stuff.

00:19:11.000 And as far as I know, the New York Times covered the hurricane and moved on to talking about January 6th again.

00:19:16.000 I don't know if you're paying them to do that. 0.76

00:19:18.000 I know you want to keep it alive, but, you know, it's just it's sort of ridiculous.

00:19:23.000 Press is good for us. We have this moment to be like, look, this is the thing that needs attention.

00:19:28.000 You know, J.D. Vance made this comment during the debate.

00:19:31.000 They're talking about the gun violence epidemic.

00:19:32.000 And he was like, yes, we should talk about this, especially in inner cities, which does not get the coverage.

00:19:37.000 I mean, news media coverage for some of these serious issues can make or break.

00:19:41.000 It can really change the lives of people impacted by it.

00:19:44.000 Why the New York Times would be turning its eyes away for something that happened several years ago seems like a disservice to the country.

00:19:51.000 Yeah, they always say there's lying, and then there's lying just by omission.

00:19:55.000 And the media, like you said, really shapes the narrative.

00:19:57.000 And by just omitting things or refusing to talk about things, they're lying.

00:20:02.000 And so I live in Chicago where there's obviously a lot of gun violence, but the people perpetrating this, shocker,

00:20:09.000 are not a bunch of mega-Republicans that are going around shooting little kids and shooting each other.

00:20:14.000 They happen to be people that the media does not want to portray in any negative light, and so it just doesn't get

00:20:20.000 talked about.

00:20:21.000 And when they do that, they effectively erase it as if it's not happening.

00:20:25.000 But I live there and it is happening.

00:20:27.000 Yeah, I think that's a good point.

00:20:29.000 And on the notes of the media being willing to show certain people in negative lights, I'm going to jump to this story from the New York Post.

00:20:36.000 Trump rips terrible White House response to Helene as FEMA accused of mismanaging crisis blocking aid.

00:20:43.000 So, very similarly to Elon Musk, Donald Trump is speaking out about what the federal government is up to and sort of the dissatisfaction with this.

00:20:52.000 And he is facing a lot of backlash.

00:20:54.000 I think you can look at mainstream headlines where they are saying Donald Trump is saying false things about FEMA and he's not being fair, but people are unhappy with FEMA. So, Former President Donald Trump tore into what he calls the terrible federal response to Hurricane Helene Friday as outrage critics aired allegations that relief workers are sitting idle without orders and that those who are working are, quote, seizing aid and aid deliveries and slow walking distributions of Starlink satellite internet equipment.

00:21:22.000 It has been a terrible response from the White House that the Republican presidential nominee said in Georgia, where he was briefed on the damage around the city of Augusta alongside GOP Governor Brian Kemp, who thanked Trump for helping to keep the nation's attention on those affected by the storm.

00:21:38.000 I mean, is this a question of we're not allowed to critique FEMA because they do hypothetically the Lord's work?

00:21:46.000 I mean, they're the relief agency, so we can't be mean to them?

00:21:49.000 Or can we criticize the government when they're failing?

00:21:52.000 Ain't going to stop me. I know.

00:21:54.000 And that's why we're glad you're back.

00:21:56.000 They're booking out hotels in these cities where they're rescuing these people.

00:21:59.000 They have no homes. They've lost everything.

00:22:01.000 FEMA's coming in and booking out all these hotels.

00:22:03.000 Where are the people who actually need a place to stay getting to stay?

00:22:08.000 And is this, and I mean, maybe we need to turn to our small government person in the room, but is this a case where we look at FEMA and say, you are bad at your job and you should maybe be reconsidered as a government organization?

00:22:22.000 I'm not sure about... I don't know that FEMA needs to be reconsidered overall, but it's definitely something that you should be like, hey, there needs to be a change in leadership right off the bat.

00:22:35.000 We've reached a time in America where there is no accountability from the federal government.

00:22:41.000 You look at I mean, from the top down, like, Joe Biden is clearly not capable.

00:22:47.000 He's clearly checked out.

00:22:49.000 And the constitutional solution for that is Kamala Harris is supposed to, not just, like, has the option, but when it's something that's obvious, Kamala Harris is supposed to invoke the 25th Amendment. 1.00

00:23:03.000 None from her, she says.

00:23:05.000 I mean, what's going on?

00:23:08.000 You have an administration that's run by someone clearly incompetent, and you have all kinds of things that are going on in the world that the president might be able to influence in a positive manner for the United States if we had a president that could do it.

00:23:22.000 And we have Kamala Harris, the vice president, who has done nothing for four years but shirk whatever job that she was given. 0.98

00:23:32.000 The border, she ignores it.

00:23:34.000 She was like a cyber security czar or something like that, right?

00:23:38.000 There was one of that. She ignores it. 0.68

00:23:40.000 She should be making sure that the office of the president is occupied by someone that is capable of actually understanding the questions that are posed to it, and she's shirking that job too.

00:23:54.000 So your entire, if your government, if the leader of your government, or allegedly the president, the office of the executive...

00:24:01.000 If that job doesn't ever have accountability, there's no longer a president that says the buck stops here.

00:24:09.000 They're always passing the buck.

00:24:11.000 They're saying it's that person's fault and that person's fault.

00:24:14.000 Mayorkas was impeached, still in his job.

00:24:17.000 No government official is held accountable for failure.

00:24:21.000 And if that's your situation, where the government can just do whatever they want, and there's no way for the people or for the other branches of government to hold them accountable...

00:24:33.000 I mean, what do you got? The Biden administration has been such a failure, they cannot tie Kamala Harris to it.

00:24:39.000 Because everyone knows that.

00:24:40.000 Like, Biden has not done a good job, historically, like, low numbers in polling, right?

00:24:44.000 You tie Kamala to him in any type of way, she's going to fail to run for residency. 0.95

00:24:48.000 Right, I was just thinking, it's like funny that she's done nothing for four years, because it's almost better that she's done nothing and failed at nothing, because now she can campaign on zero. 0.90

00:24:59.000 No, because you've got, well, you've got, like, how many...

00:25:03.000 Illegal immigrants have come over the border.

00:25:05.000 Or easily 10 million.

00:25:06.000 Something like 10 million?

00:25:08.000 That's a failure for sure. And I don't care how many times people say, oh, you're a bad person for saying it.

00:25:13.000 These people are being moved throughout the country by the federal government.

00:25:18.000 They're being moved to states like Ohio and states like Florida, where if they go there and they vote Democrat, they could shift the balance.

00:25:27.000 They could change the makeup of...

00:25:30.000 What the population would normally vote for.

00:25:33.000 They're going to purple states or they're going to places that are strongly red and they're hoping to make them purple.

00:25:38.000 That's not deniable.

00:25:40.000 There's nobody that's going to say, oh, they're not bringing people into the country.

00:25:44.000 Clearly that's happening. What happens is if you say this is why you get called names.

00:25:49.000 And so this is something that...

00:25:53.000 The federal government has been completely and totally—it's worse than not doing your job.

00:25:59.000 It's actively trying to use government policy to help one party over another in the face or against the wishes of the population of the United States.

00:26:12.000 You look at, I think it was like 70% of the people they said in the debate, they said like 70% of people want to actually start deportations.

00:26:21.000 Like I was astounded when I heard that number.

00:26:24.000 It's pretty crazy to, you know.

00:26:25.000 Like most of the time Americans are like, I don't know if I want to go ahead and start knocking on doors and being like, are you an American? 1.00

00:26:33.000 70% of the population are like, get them and get them out of here. 1.00

00:26:37.000 That's because of the not just failure, but the active, active, the things that the government has done.

00:26:46.000 The things that the administration has done.

00:26:48.000 It's a collective crisis that they are involved in.

00:26:50.000 Intentional. And there's no denying it anymore.

00:26:52.000 There's no denying it. And I think this is a cultural question that there are a lot of people who work on this issue, but definitely Donald Trump bringing it up in the 2016 election made it so that it was in a political stratosphere that conservatives, Republicans had been uncomfortable touching.

00:27:08.000 But more than anything, Crime, the weight at hospitals, the impact it has on school systems, people themselves are feeling the impact of illegal immigration.

00:27:18.000 And I think that is a difficult pill for corporate outlets to swallow because they want the narrative to be like, we can't talk about it because it's bad and it makes you mean.

00:27:28.000 Yeah, exactly. I want to interject here because it's not that they've been afraid of touching it.

00:27:32.000 It's that the accusation is always bigotry.

00:27:36.000 But that's why they're afraid of it.

00:27:37.000 I mean, this was something that Bill Clinton had said during one of his state reunions, right?

00:27:41.000 That we needed to get control of the border.

00:27:43.000 And still, we didn't do anything until basically Donald Trump.

00:27:46.000 And it's not because there aren't some politicians and some sort of think tank people who talk about it.

00:27:51.000 It's because it was so intensely tied to this accusation of racism.

00:27:55.000 And I think that the realities of saying our border is open and it's fine and it's the same.

00:28:01.000 All the chickens have come home to roosts.

00:28:03.000 I saw Elon Musk had tweeted something about this situation, about the shipping of immigrants to different states to try to affect the outcomes and stuff like that.

00:28:15.000 I don't think it's just – I don't think it's census.

00:28:16.000 I think it's actually active voters.

00:28:19.000 They brought in 30 million people who can vote in these states and flip them blue.

00:28:22.000 Yeah, that's right. This is going to be in play in four years.

00:28:24.000 I know Obama used to talk about the border, you know, and nobody, there's no accusations laid there about it being racist.

00:28:30.000 It was only racist when Trump parroted the exact same thing Obama said.

00:28:33.000 It's only racist when it's a tool that the Democrats can use to chill conversations about it.

00:28:40.000 The goal is to get people to not talk about it.

00:28:43.000 Because if they call you names, then you're afraid of them, and then you don't want to bring it up.

00:28:47.000 And I think that the American—and this is bad for multiple reasons.

00:28:51.000 It's bad because these are actual, legitimate conversations that need to be had.

00:28:56.000 But it's also bad because you've got a generation of kids that are teens and early 20s that don't care if you call them racist.

00:29:04.000 And they're just going to be like, I don't care.

00:29:06.000 And it's like you're actually giving cover to legitimate racists.

00:29:09.000 Right. Well, you brought up a really good point earlier about accountability and how there's no accountability for government officials when they mess up really bad.

00:29:17.000 And that's where the media comes in.

00:29:20.000 The media is supposed to be the fourth estate.

00:29:22.000 They're supposed to hold the government officials' feet to the fire and report on these things.

00:29:27.000 And as we all know, investigative journalism is not funded anymore.

00:29:30.000 So we don't really have the hard hitting reports from the media anymore.

00:29:33.000 And journalists aren't really journalists.

00:29:36.000 They're democratic apparatchiks.

00:29:38.000 And so it's the failure of the media to do its job as a watchdog in the fourth

00:29:44.000 estate, and that's why there's no accountability.

00:29:46.000 And we saw it in gross terms when the Defense Department lost something like

00:29:51.000 one trillion plus dollars years ago, and to my knowledge, nobody got in trouble for that.

00:29:57.000 That's a trillion dollars that went missing, and there was no repercussion.

00:30:01.000 So all of this, I think, is an indictment on the media and their failure to do their job as journalists, because that's what they are at the end of the day.

00:30:08.000 Here's something interesting I've noticed, because I watch a lot of true crime stuff, and they're picking it up not realizing that there's a shift in crime Yeah.

00:30:20.000 Yeah. You know, know which way or the other and it's kind of as fact so they are because it is fact and it's like I didn't see that like eight years ago four years ago, But like every other headline now is like this, you know,

00:30:41.000 atrocious crimes committed by one or two people of a certain, you know, personage that

00:30:49.000 are not here and they're trying to navigate the legalese of how do you prosecute somebody

00:30:53.000 who's not even supposed to be here?

00:30:55.000 Do you give them bail?

00:30:56.000 And all these things are like, they're coming up more and more.

00:30:59.000 So I think that's a positive for that kind of media.

00:31:01.000 So it's getting something.

00:31:02.000 Well, and it's ironic because the left loves to play identity politics and talk about people's

00:31:08.000 identities except when it comes to crime and who's committing it.

00:31:12.000 And then suddenly they no longer want to talk about identity politics or people's identities.

00:31:16.000 So it's interesting how, as you pointed out earlier, they use it as a way to silence people,

00:31:23.000 but they don't use it consistently.

00:31:25.000 And it's just very nefarious on their part.

00:31:28.000 And I think, you know, the left have become experts at using that, as you said, to chill speech.

00:31:34.000 But they don't do it consistently.

00:31:36.000 Well, the argument that we're racist and bigots for not wanting illegal criminals here, it's on its face.

00:31:41.000 It's not the argument we're making.

00:31:43.000 America is not just white people.

00:31:45.000 We do have immigrants that come here illegally.

00:31:47.000 I'm friends with lots of them.

00:31:50.000 Oh my god, I made I have a black friend reference.

00:31:52.000 It's only bad if you say you only have one.

00:31:55.000 If you have multiple, then you're good.

00:31:57.000 So that's not the argument we're trying to make.

00:32:01.000 The first act they committed when they came here was a crime.

00:32:04.000 They committed a crime by entering here illegally.

00:32:07.000 Those are the people we're talking about.

00:32:08.000 America is not specifically and just exclusively white people.

00:32:12.000 Right. America requires participation on a civic level, and part of that is agreeing to live by American laws.

00:32:18.000 I mean, Americans who are born in the U.S. don't get a free pass to commit crimes, right?

00:32:22.000 They are still sent to prison if they are convicted of a crime.

00:32:26.000 And I think similarly, people feel like...

00:32:29.000 Now more than ever that entering the country illegally is in fact a crime, which it always was, but sort of people looked past it.

00:32:37.000 It was like they weren't in the middle of committing a crime when they also maybe had a DUI or hit somebody or something tragic.

00:32:44.000 I want to, because we're talking about crime and immigration, bring up this story from CNN. So this came out about 5 o'clock tonight.

00:32:53.000 Gang attacks in Haiti killed 70 people, including infants.

00:32:58.000 At least 70 people, including three infants, were killed in a gang attack in central Haiti

00:33:02.000 town of Pont Sainte-Denis.

00:33:04.000 The United Nations Human Rights Office said in a statement on Friday, members of the Gangrif

00:33:08.000 gang used automatic rifles to kill at least 70 people on Thursday, including 10 women

00:33:13.000 and three infants, according to the UN.

00:33:16.000 Haiti is one of the countries where there are certain authorizations that allow them to come into this country under a protected status, with temporary protected status.

00:33:28.000 And it is important to point out that there are a lot of countries that have instability, and it's a pathway towards asylum, right?

00:33:36.000 Like if someone from Haiti were to say, well, there's very serious gang violence.

00:33:40.000 Currently, you know, most forms of asylum in the U.S. would be open to them.

00:33:45.000 But I don't know that this is something that the American people feel like is a solution

00:33:49.000 to this.

00:33:50.000 Right.

00:33:51.000 Haiti will still have chaos and gang violence.

00:33:53.000 But then also we are bringing in more migrants in maybe situations where the towns can't

00:33:59.000 handle them.

00:34:00.000 I mean, I know we've talked about Ohio a lot, but there are cities that struggle to absorb

00:34:04.000 the tens of thousands of migrants that are suddenly brought to them.

00:34:07.000 It's not because they don't want to help people.

00:34:09.000 It's because resources are limited even here in America.

00:34:12.000 And this creates a perpetual problem, right?

00:34:14.000 If we just keep saying, well, if it stays bad, just keep coming over.

00:34:17.000 That just creates a very bad cycle for us.

00:34:19.000 Until Haiti fixes Haiti, we're going to keep dealing with Haiti people coming over. 1.00

00:34:24.000 And they're not the best of people that are coming over.

00:34:27.000 We've seen that. Are you saying they're not sending their best?

00:34:29.000 Sometimes. Sometimes.

00:34:31.000 You can't just absorb everyone who's... 0.72

00:34:33.000 In a bad spot.

00:34:34.000 Yeah, the idea that because you're from a country that has political instability or economic instability, because of that we should just take everybody that can get to our border, that's absolutely absurd. 0.82

00:34:48.000 It's totally ridiculous, and it should be completely impossible. 0.63

00:34:52.000 Well, yeah, it's impossible. It should be totally and completely outside of the question. 0.95

00:34:56.000 Like, there's no reason for the American people to say, if you can get here and you come from a place that's less fortunate than the United States, you're automatically allowed in.

00:35:05.000 We have some of the most lax immigration laws, at least when it comes to people that get to the border.

00:35:15.000 On the whole planet, like out of all of the countries, we're among the most lax.

00:35:19.000 And that is a massive problem for the United States.

00:35:24.000 As someone who is very much against war, I'm going to start there, would it not be more fiscally responsible and for the safety of Americans to just invade Haiti and make it better? 0.86

00:35:33.000 I'm just saying.

00:35:35.000 It's a very small island.

00:35:36.000 We can send maybe 5,000 troops, get it in line, and then that problem stops.

00:35:40.000 I think historically we've always meddled in Haiti's politics.

00:35:44.000 I know we've overthrown some people there and installed some other people.

00:35:48.000 So I don't know if getting involved with them is the best thing, but it's also a zero- Clintons would like it.

00:35:54.000 Yeah. I love Haiti.

00:35:57.000 It's also a zero-sum game with all this stuff.

00:35:59.000 I'm from Chicago. As I said earlier, there's a lot of underserved African American communities in Chicago.

00:36:05.000 And because this is a zero-sum game, whatever our government does there in Chicago for the tens of thousands of migrants that have come there and I see...

00:36:13.000 I see them every day when I go to the grocery store and Whole Foods.

00:36:16.000 That's taking away from underserved communities in Chicago, which are predominantly African Americans.

00:36:22.000 So it's inherently racist for governments to be giving handouts to the illegal immigrants because it's taking away from other people who are citizens and residents who need it.

00:36:34.000 And so I just think that's egregious and I just think it's shameful.

00:36:38.000 Do you think that Kamala Harris is ever going to be able to reprogram her narrative on immigration in time for the election?

00:36:48.000 I'm going to contrast it with the economy, right?

00:36:51.000 So immigration and the economy are two of the biggest issues this election.

00:36:54.000 Even when Harris polls better on likeability, on who would you rather hang out with at the mall or whatever the question is, Trump always comes out on top with who do you think is better suited to handle the economy and handle immigration.

00:37:08.000 It's always Trump among voters.

00:37:11.000 She has tried to gain ground on the economy by saying instead of inflation, saying the cost of living crisis, right?

00:37:19.000 She and her team have been able to repackage certain things.

00:37:23.000 Is there a way for them to successfully message on immigration or is it too far gone?

00:37:29.000 I think it depends if the media does their job.

00:37:32.000 So I think she can get away with doing what she's doing, which is using this kind of Orwellian doublespeak where she's using euphemisms for inflation and calling it, you know, as you just said, this Cost of living crisis. 0.92

00:37:47.000 So it really depends if the media does their job.

00:37:49.000 And oftentimes we see them lobbying assists to the Democrats.

00:37:53.000 And if they keep doing it, yes, she can continue doing what she's doing with impunity and her feet won't be held to the fire. 0.96

00:38:00.000 But if the media actually did her job, I think that she would find it very tough to turn it around before the election.

00:38:07.000 But she's just not put under much scrutiny.

00:38:10.000 And so yes, I think she can get away with it because we don't have legitimate journalists out there. 0.91

00:38:15.000 People get their information from one or two places, right, depending on what side of the fence you lean on.

00:38:19.000 Unless you're a rational person, like some of us in the room, you listen to lots of different sources.

00:38:24.000 I don't see the left covering gang violence, Venezuelan gangs in Colorado.

00:38:28.000 I don't see them doing these things.

00:38:29.000 So they don't even know it's an issue.

00:38:31.000 They don't. They don't.

00:38:32.000 They may kind of see, like, there's kind of an uptick in our town in this direction, but they don't really see it.

00:38:36.000 So I don't think you're going to sway any of those voters from not voting for Kamala because they don't even know it's an issue.

00:38:42.000 That's interesting because she is about to do a 60 Minutes interview, hypothetically. 0.77

00:38:46.000 I'll see it. I'll believe it when I see it.

00:38:48.000 But, you know, there would be opportunities for a serious journalist, to your point, to ask her more directly, hey, this is an actual problem and address it if they're allowed to ask her such questions.

00:39:00.000 Do you guys think Kamala is going to be able to grapple with the immigration question in the next couple of weeks?

00:39:05.000 I don't know that it matters.

00:39:08.000 And the reason is because I think that the voters that are able to be swayed, it is such a vanishingly small group of people.

00:39:18.000 I don't know that...

00:39:22.000 I don't know that they are...

00:39:24.000 I don't know.

00:39:26.000 I don't know. But I think that the amount of people that you could actually sway nowadays is such a small amount.

00:39:35.000 I'm not sure what is the most important thing to them.

00:39:42.000 But if the polls are right and it's the economy and immigration... 0.99

00:39:49.000 I don't think that Kamala Harris is in all that good of a position, but that doesn't—when you hear the actual polls of people and stuff, it's like 48 to 48 or whatever, which is—I mean, I can't believe that that's true, but that's what you keep hearing when you talk to people that are polling, you know? I'm glad you're talking about polling because it's making me think of this report that I heard earlier today, which is pointing out the fact that in addition to not being able to use Starlink or any cell phone service or whatever for getting help that they need, people impacted by hurricanes are definitely not responding to pollsters.

00:40:23.000 And so the numbers that we're getting out of several major swing states right now...

00:40:27.000 If there are any, are probably inaccurate because there's no way to actually sample a broad enough array of voters.

00:40:34.000 And so it is a good question of what do we know about these people.

00:40:39.000 And I think to your point, the undecided voter right now, if we could figure out what they want to hear, I'm sure they would have told us.

00:40:45.000 We even are. I mean, to answer your original question, I don't think there's any way that Kamala Harris can... 1.00

00:40:52.000 I don't know.

00:40:56.000 I don't know.

00:41:13.000 Which is really interesting because she really is in an untenable position because what she's forced to do is say, I am going forward, if you elect me, I'm going to fix all of these myriad problems that we have that were created under me and Joe Biden.

00:41:29.000 And again, the only reason she can get away with this is because the media doesn't hold her feet to the fire and say, wait, a lot of these issues are created under you and Biden, and you want us to think you're the one that's going to fix the issues that only exist because of you?

00:41:44.000 Intentionally created. Some of them, but for argument's sake, you don't even need to go that far.

00:41:49.000 It's just that they were created under you, and you think we're going to entrust you to fix them?

00:41:54.000 So I just think she's in a very hard position.

00:41:56.000 I think she is, too. I think her dynamic with Biden is also one of the things playing into this.

00:42:02.000 You know, apparently he did not take well to when during her debate with Trump, she said, well, I am clearly not Joe Biden.

00:42:08.000 Apparently this really, from some sources, have said it's really gotten under his skin.

00:42:13.000 And, you know, we've seen kind of odd behavior from Joe Biden over the last couple of weeks.

00:42:18.000 Yeah, didn't he put a Trump hat on?

00:42:19.000 He put on a Trump hat. Just the past couple of weeks.

00:42:22.000 What do we find before then?

00:42:24.000 I'm amazed that we haven't seen him walking around in just a diaper.

00:42:27.000 But that's the thing. He went on vacation.

00:42:29.000 He was in California for a while.

00:42:31.000 He went to Delaware. He came back.

00:42:33.000 Trump hat. It seems to be not talking to Kamala Harris at all.

00:42:37.000 I mean, I think there is a rift within the Biden-Harris administration.

00:42:39.000 The actual one?

00:42:55.000 Yes, the actual one.

00:42:57.000 We're not sure if he wandered in there on purpose or by mistake, but there's this report from Politico that he was there for about 15 minutes and journalists audibly gasped when he entered, which is not a great sign.

00:43:09.000 But I'm going to pull this from NPR. He talked about a couple different things.

00:43:13.000 I think it's pretty notable that he said he's worried about, so it's Biden says he's worried about violence around the presidential election.

00:43:21.000 President Joe Biden told reporters on Friday he is confident the election will be free and fair, but he said he was concerned about potential for violence if former President Donald Trump refuses to accept the will of the voters.

00:43:35.000 Quote, I am confident it will be free and fair.

00:43:38.000 I don't know whether it will be peaceful, Biden said during a surprise appearance at the White House daily briefing.

00:43:43.000 The things that Trump has said and the things that he has said last time out when he didn't like the outcomes of the election were dangerous.

00:43:52.000 This is one of the narratives that I think Democrats go back to a lot.

00:43:58.000 And this story has two components, right?

00:44:01.000 Obviously, there were very serious threats to President Trump.

00:44:04.000 And I'll go back to something former First Lady Melania Trump said, which is that everyone who contributes to political violence by saying things like, we need to, you know, whatever, do horrible things to keep this man out of office, he's a threat to democracy, contribute to this.

00:44:21.000 And so in some ways, Joe Biden is now back in the DNC camp by saying these things.

00:44:27.000 On the other hand, This guy just showed up for the first time.

00:44:31.000 Is he trying to legacy build?

00:44:32.000 I thought we were supposed to stop listening to him because he wasn't fit and now Kamala Harris is kind of By all outward appearances, doing his job and campaigning, and he's just kind of on a press tour of sorts or walking into the Oval, whatever office.

00:44:50.000 I don't think he goes to the Oval Office. Why are we listening to him now?

00:44:53.000 It's interesting that the left's always talking about political violence and violence in general.

00:44:58.000 I mean, if you pull the uniform crime statistics from the FBI, it very clearly shows who tends

00:45:04.000 to commit the majority of violent crime in this country.

00:45:07.000 And let's just say it's not mega Republicans.

00:45:10.000 It's very clear there in the data who commits the violent crimes.

00:45:13.000 We know how they vote.

00:45:15.000 And so it's just very bold of them to talk about violence when they're often the ones

00:45:20.000 perpetuating it.

00:45:21.000 Maybe that's what he meant.

00:45:22.000 Just exclusively, whether it be the riots in all of 2020 and then January 6, which is

00:45:29.000 bad, but like there was significantly less violence in that one day compared to almost

00:45:35.000 a full year of rioting in hundreds of cities across the country.

00:45:39.000 And just day to day violence in big urban cities like Baltimore, Maryland, Chicago.

00:45:45.000 I mean, you name it.

00:45:46.000 We know who's perpetuating the violent crimes and it's not mega Republicans.

00:45:50.000 So Biden has a lot of nerve saying that.

00:45:52.000 I mean, the reason it goes to it speaks to the the fact that both times that both of

00:45:59.000 the attempted assassination or the assassination attempt on Trump.

00:46:02.000 people on the left are so quick to be like, oh, it was a Republican.

00:46:07.000 It was a Trump supporter. 0.99

00:46:08.000 It's like, yeah, Trump supporters are trying to kill Trump, which is the most ridiculous thing. 0.93

00:46:12.000 But they know that to have that association so clearly on top of all the riots, on top of all the violence that comes from the low-grade violence that comes from the Democrats, They have to continue to point the finger because the American people kind of know generally that it actually is Democrats that are consistently stoking the violence. 0.93

00:46:39.000 They were calling Donald Trump all sorts of names.

00:46:41.000 And whether or not—I mean, there are people that are going to argue and say, you know, stochastic terrorism isn't a thing.

00:46:46.000 and if you if you what people say doesn't actually impact what people

00:46:51.000 actions that people take and I'm sympathetic to that because at the end

00:46:55.000 of the day you have to put the onus on the person that actually acts but the

00:47:00.000 idea that sitting like spending four years or more or eight years actually

00:47:06.000 considering Trump's hasn't been in office for the past four years calling

00:47:09.000 Donald Trump Hitler and and stuff like that to think that that isn't going to 0.89

00:47:13.000 make the absolutely crazy people do crazy things or at least influence crazy

00:47:17.000 people to do crazy things I mean it's it is the people that do its fault

00:47:21.000 It's they're the ones that are responsible.

00:47:24.000 But the whole reason that people say Donald Trump is Hitler, Donald Trump is Hitler, is

00:47:29.000 because they want you to think that Donald Trump would do something as atrocious as Hitler

00:47:34.000 did.

00:47:35.000 It's not like they're saying it.

00:47:36.000 It's an implication of like, this guy's really bad.

00:47:39.000 It's like, it's not just like, oh, you know, he's kind of bad.

00:47:42.000 It's they're associating with one of the worst, you know, the worst people in history.

00:47:47.000 What was the poll they did?

00:47:49.000 It was CNN and MSNBC. They said, they asked people, would it have been a better thing if Trump's assassination was successful?

00:47:55.000 And it was a very high number of people who said, yes, it would have been better for the country.

00:48:00.000 That's the mindset of these people.

00:48:01.000 So whether they're the person on the hill or not, we're hiding in the bushes.

00:48:05.000 What was the number of people that said that? I think it was in the 30s.

00:48:08.000 I've heard 27%.

00:48:09.000 I've also listened to a podcast where a pollster is like, well, you have to take out these people and try to walk it back down.

00:48:16.000 Because I think it is even shocking to mainstream researchers and journalists.

00:48:22.000 Like, even though they themselves do not like Trump, I think the idea that people are open to such a tragic thing being positive is not the direction anyone wants the country to.

00:48:31.000 It's like words have meanings and they have effect.

00:48:35.000 And if you keep repeating them over and over again, you're going to convince people that something truly evil is good.

00:48:39.000 It is also interesting to me that Biden is specifically bringing up this narrative of Trump denying the results of the last election or whatever, and this being an imminent threat to this year's election.

00:48:54.000 This was something that came up a lot after JD Vance just really annihilated the debate earlier this week,

00:49:02.000 in part because it was one of the only moments where he was in a tough position.

00:49:06.000 They asked him about Trump's comments and things like that, and he, I thought, did a totally okay job,

00:49:12.000 but had to sort of say, like, we're going to move on peacefully, kind of move past this point.

00:49:18.000 And it was something that corporate media definitely latched onto and was like, he couldn't answer.

00:49:25.000 He didn't disavow what Trump said.

00:49:26.000 This is happening all again.

00:49:27.000 Where is Mike Pence when we need him?

00:49:30.000 Because they loved Mike Pence when he was in office, I'm sure.

00:49:33.000 Is this one of these final issues that Democrats are bringing up during our final weeks before the election because they think it invokes fear and that's enough to motivate voters to stay away from it?

00:49:44.000 All they have. Really?

00:49:46.000 Literally all they have.

00:49:47.000 Because what else is there?

00:49:50.000 Abortion, I guess. That's the other thing they always bring up. 1.00

00:49:52.000 So murder and murder. Awesome.

00:49:55.000 It would be nice if the moderators asked Kamala Harris or Waltz, especially Waltz, being in Minnesota and Minneapolis about violence since it was Democrats that were torching cities and torching small businesses and being extremely violent across the country, but not a word about violence despite all of that and despite Waltz being there as the governor of Minnesota.

00:50:21.000 But they're asking Vance about it.

00:50:23.000 So again, it's just really weird how the media and the moderators in this case can shape the narrative by painting Trump and Vance as these kind of nefarious villains that are in charge of all of this political violence.

00:50:36.000 When again, if you were to just look at the data and just, you know, turn on your TV, you would see who is torching inner cities and shooting people every day.

00:50:45.000 Did we ever get to the bottom of whether Tim Walz is friends with school shooters or not?

00:50:49.000 He said he was.

00:50:51.000 I mean, he said he was.

00:50:52.000 He said that he misspoke and he meant he was friends with the victims or people who have been impacted by school shooting.

00:50:58.000 And then he referenced David Hogg.

00:51:00.000 So I don't know.

00:51:02.000 It was a weird answer.

00:51:04.000 You know, J.D., Walls is a weird character.

00:51:09.000 They say vice presidents don't win the election.

00:51:12.000 But in this case, I really think that Walls is creating more obstacles for Kamala Harris and J.D. Vance, especially given this week's performance, is really strengthening the ticket.

00:51:24.000 Well, he's touring with Fetterman now instead of Harris, right?

00:51:26.000 So he's kind of in timeout. Oh, no.

00:51:28.000 Is he really touring with Fetterman?

00:51:30.000 Oh, is he still vertical, Fetterman?

00:51:32.000 Yeah. John Fetterman?

00:51:33.000 He made a recovery. He's kind of hilarious.

00:51:35.000 He actually made a recovery.

00:51:37.000 I think the stroke actually put things back in order.

00:51:39.000 Do you guys expect to see Biden return to the campaign trail at all?

00:51:42.000 Is there going to be ice cream in small children?

00:51:45.000 What would his part be?

00:51:48.000 He did do...

00:51:50.000 Look, I want to keep my job and I want to keep this show on the air.

00:51:58.000 The thing is...

00:52:00.000 He did do one official—they did like a joint—they did a joint appearance as president and vice president right after she got moved onto the top of the ticket. 0.52

00:52:10.000 And then a couple weeks later, after the DNC, he did one campaign event where he spoke before her.

00:52:17.000 So he opened for her.

00:52:19.000 Right. He opened for horror.

00:52:20.000 The sitting president of the United States opened for the vice president and a different political candidate.

00:52:25.000 To me, this screams disrespect.

00:52:27.000 I know Joe Biden might not be all together, but there has to be a point where he just formally breaks up with Harris.

00:52:33.000 Yes? I would hope. So this presser he did, it's very catty.

00:52:37.000 If you listen to what he said, he said, everything that I did, Harris did with me.

00:52:40.000 We are a team. We're following the same playbook.

00:52:43.000 That's great! It's amazing. He really does tie her to his administration.

00:52:46.000 She is trying so hard.

00:52:48.000 I mean, this was true in her debate with Trump, right?

00:52:49.000 She would say, we did so much because she can't say Biden's name, but she can't take so low credit.

00:52:55.000 But then also is like, I am clearly not Joe Biden.

00:52:58.000 I mean... I'm glad that he honestly is getting mad.

00:53:00.000 What she should do is say, like, I created all these problems.

00:53:02.000 I'm the only one who knows how to solve them.

00:53:04.000 He woke up from an app one day and found out he wasn't running for office.

00:53:06.000 I know. Can you imagine?

00:53:10.000 So we think that Biden will just stay in the White House and say nothing?

00:53:14.000 Or are we getting a bunch of off-the-cuff remarks?

00:53:16.000 He has to stay in the White House so he can pardon his son.

00:53:18.000 That's the only reason he's still in there.

00:53:20.000 No, I mean, well, as far as the campaign goes, they're actually sending him on trips now to keep him away from the campaign.

00:53:28.000 I just heard about it today.

00:53:29.000 I'm actually looking for it right now.

00:53:32.000 But he's got... A couple trips coming up.

00:53:35.000 And it's because they don't want him to be on the campaign trail because he's absolutely incapable of forming coherent sentences.

00:53:46.000 And now he hates Harris.

00:53:48.000 He's a liability for the campaign in so many ways.

00:53:50.000 ways.

00:53:51.000 If you need any more proof that the media doesn't do their job, it's the fact that he

00:53:55.000 can go up there and literally make no sense for 25 minutes, incapable of, you know, stringing

00:54:01.000 10 words together, and the media doesn't say anything.

00:54:03.000 They'll actually replay some of his clips that make no sense, and they will not comment

00:54:08.000 on it or say, oh, Biden wasn't making much sense there.

00:54:11.000 They'll actually sum up what he was trying to say for him and regurgitate it to us.

00:54:17.000 David Muir is a professional, because I watch ABC Nightly News at 530 with him all the time,

00:54:23.000 and they just skip right over it.

00:54:24.000 And so I don't think there's a more glaring example of them not doing their job than how

00:54:28.000 they ignore Biden's utter incompetence and the fact that he's clearly senile and clearly

00:54:33.000 dealing with some kind of dementia or Alzheimer's.

00:54:37.000 I mean, it's embarrassing.

00:54:38.000 So do you think the DNC is just bad at their job?

00:54:42.000 My hypothesis is here.

00:54:44.000 Did they just think they could slip Joe Biden by?

00:54:46.000 They weren't aware of his cognitive decline in 2020 when they tapped him to be their nominee?

00:54:54.000 Or have they always known and they're just, you know, kind of like, we can make it work.

00:55:00.000 It's fine. Like, what is the DNC's role here?

00:55:02.000 I remember back then, even four years ago, I remember being aware that something was cognitively not right, but it was not this bad.

00:55:09.000 It has definitely gotten progressively worse as each year has gone by.

00:55:13.000 But I think he was the only tenable candidate that they guessed correctly could take on Trump and beat him.

00:55:19.000 and so they said, you know what, there's issues here, but he's the only tenable candidate we have,

00:55:24.000 and so they just went with it. So yes, I think they're on notice. I think they're aware of it.

00:55:30.000 Did they know he was going to decline this much during his presidency? I don't know,

00:55:34.000 but it's egregious that they then tried to run him again in 2024.

00:55:38.000 They're definitely aware of it then.

00:55:40.000 But they did the right thing by having the right thing, I'd put in quotation marks, by having Kamala step in for him.

00:55:49.000 But yeah, everyone was aware of it in 2020, but especially now in 2024.

00:55:54.000 It's just so glaringly obvious.

00:55:56.000 I mean, as you said, he literally cannot talk for more than five seconds, etc.

00:56:01.000 That's why he only did a 15-minute appearance in the briefing room today.

00:56:04.000 And I think you're right. Right in this sense, meaning most strategic move to serve their interests.

00:56:09.000 And I think this is one of the things that undecided voters or voters that would be independent, maybe lean Democrat, noticed.

00:56:16.000 I've heard interviews with voters saying, you know, We didn't choose her.

00:56:21.000 I wish that we had been involved in the process.

00:56:23.000 She did just get selected by, quote, them.

00:56:25.000 Well, they wasn't selected ever.

00:56:27.000 They stepped on their own toes because they only chose her as vice president because she fit identity politics, right? 0.98

00:56:33.000 Is she black? Is she Indian? I don't know.

00:56:34.000 Depends on what I guess. But she fit a narrative.

00:56:37.000 She fit the ticket, right? They were not going to overstep her either.

00:56:41.000 There was a bunch of debate on who was going to take over Joe's spot because that was what's going to happen.

00:56:45.000 Be like, oh, it's going to be Hillary. She'll step up. 1.00

00:56:47.000 It's going to be – they cannot step past her because they put themselves in this trick box. 0.95

00:56:52.000 You can't pass over a black woman. 1.00

00:56:54.000 Now they're stuck with her. 0.99

00:56:55.000 Yeah. And I think in some ways she doesn't have the same problems as Joe Biden, but she is not better.

00:57:02.000 She is a challenge, too.

00:57:04.000 Speaking with some campaign news and talking about our sweet, sweet friend Kamala Harris, I'm going to bring up this report from the Post Millennial.

00:57:11.000 Key Kamala staffers weren't aware of Tim Walz's false claims until they were made public.

00:57:16.000 It was reported that, quote, key members of Harris's circle weren't aware of some of the inaccurate statements from Walz, quote, until they became public.

00:57:26.000 Kamala Harris' vice presidential running mate Tim Walls has claimed that he carried weapons in combat that he and his wife conceived using IVF, claimed that he was a command sergeant major in the National Guard when he was actually reduced to a master sergeant when he retired.

00:57:41.000 And it turns out that some of Harris' campaign's key staffers weren't aware of any of these things until they were made clear.

00:57:49.000 Walls' false statements have ranged from his background in the National Guard to other facets of career, such as when he claimed to be teaching students in Hong Kong while the Tiananmen Square massacre took place.

00:58:01.000 According to news from Politico, quote, key members of the Harris circle weren't aware of some of the inaccurate statements from Walls until they became public.

00:58:09.000 Many of the issues were not raised, quote, despite vetting process for Harris' VP pick.

00:58:14.000 Is his name even Tim Walls?

00:58:17.000 At this point, I have to ask.

00:58:19.000 Also, someone's job is to professionally vet these candidates.

00:58:21.000 Right! I don't know.

00:58:34.000 There's actually really no defending this.

00:58:35.000 And it comes a couple weeks after this report from the New York Post.

00:58:39.000 It says Kamala Harris says insomnia hit after Biden dropped out.

00:58:43.000 She was sleep deprived the day they picked Tim Walz.

00:58:46.000 I don't know if you guys saw this, but it's basically Kamala Harris was saying, you know, from the time the president or...

00:58:53.000 From the time the president called me and told me he wasn't running, I mean, it was just like everything was in speedy, speedy motion, and I was not sleeping well, she told the basketball star she was appearing on the All Smoke podcast.

00:59:05.000 And that one morning, I just, I mean, I had, I don't know, a few hours sleep, and I, you know, I like to sleep.

00:59:13.000 I just got up, she said.

00:59:14.000 I was like, so I just went out and got a pork roast and started marinating it.

00:59:19.000 What? For her very Jewish husband. 0.94

00:59:21.000 Did she really just pull a, see what really happened was?

00:59:23.000 She got a pork roast for her very Jewish husband.

00:59:26.000 As a Jew, I take offense to the fact that he's even married to her.

00:59:29.000 You know, when things aren't a meritocracy with the left and when they pick people, again, it's all about identity politics.

00:59:38.000 It's like giving the bid to the lowest bidder for a government contract.

00:59:42.000 You're going to get the worst.

00:59:44.000 Because nothing with the left is about meritocracy or who's qualified, you end up in this situation where you have Kamala Harris, who isn't qualified, picking Waltz, who isn't qualified.

00:59:55.000 That's how we end up where we're at right now.

00:59:57.000 And that's just something that I find odious with the left is because it's all about, you know,

01:00:03.000 your appearance and things like that. It's always going to end badly. And I feel like

01:00:09.000 the Republicans for the most part tend to put the most competent people up there. And we're also

01:00:14.000 seeing it with FEMA and Pete Buttigieg, who was chosen because of his sexual orientation instead

01:00:20.000 of his competency. And so things start playing out like this, where it's just disaster after

01:00:25.000 disaster. And I think it's totally predictable. Did you always feel this way that identity

01:00:30.000 politics was leading Democratic staffing choices? Or is this something you feel more recently?

01:00:35.000 I mean, I remember it with staffing choices.

01:00:39.000 I would say I've only been cognizant of it, you know, in the last four or five years.

01:00:44.000 But I think we're definitely going down a road where it keeps getting more and more absurd.

01:00:49.000 I mean, you look at the NASA... Gentleman, maybe it was non-binary, who was stealing people's luggage. 1.00

01:00:56.000 And that turned into a huge fiasco for the Biden administration.

01:01:00.000 Very embarrassing. I can't help but feel like he has my luggage because I lost a bag that year and was at that airport.

01:01:05.000 It probably was him.

01:01:07.000 You have to stalk his Instagram. He was charged in nuclear or something.

01:01:11.000 But even if you look at the TikTok influencers that the Biden administration hires, what they have going on, it's just pretty embarrassing.

01:01:20.000 So yes, I would say it's definitely gotten worse.

01:01:23.000 And I think it's only going to continue to get worse.

01:01:25.000 And it's one of the things that I loathe the most about the left is that You know, it's not based on character.

01:01:31.000 It's not based on things that as a country we've always valued.

01:01:35.000 It's now just based on what's your orientation, what's your skin color, and it's just so insulting, and it leads to results like this, where you have Tim Waltz claiming he was at Tiananmen Square.

01:01:47.000 It's just really bizarre.

01:01:49.000 I don't know how more people aren't upset about it and offended by it.

01:01:52.000 The worst part about this with Kamala saying I only had a few hours of sleep, does she know the job she's running for? 1.00

01:01:58.000 Because sometimes you have to make quick decisions.

01:02:00.000 They have to be good decisions. That's the job she's running for. 0.96

01:02:04.000 She's telling us, well, I didn't really know what I was doing.

01:02:05.000 I kind of just picked him, I guess.

01:02:07.000 I think it's pretty clear that the current administration is more a committee-run situation, and I think that's not going to change should Kamala Harris actually win and get into office.

01:02:23.000 Again, and this speaks to the fact that there is no one held accountable.

01:02:29.000 If you have a situation where there are multiple people that are doing the job as opposed to one person, it's much easier to go ahead and just pass the buck and it's much easier for other people around them to say, well, we don't really know who we can hold accountable.

01:02:45.000 You know, when it's just one person, and it's clearly the decision is made by the executive, then it's very easy to be like, well, you're the one who made the call.

01:02:55.000 And yet, you've got Kamala Harris saying that she was the last, I forget what the, oh, for the Afghanistan, she was the last one in the room. 0.55

01:03:02.000 And what happened? Nothing has changed.

01:03:05.000 There has been no one held accountable for a totally botched, Withdrawal.

01:03:11.000 Completely and totally botched.

01:03:13.000 And the reason it was botched is because they just didn't want to do what Donald Trump did.

01:03:17.000 Like, they came into office and they just wanted to change everything that the Trump administration had, whether it was good policy or bad policy.

01:03:24.000 It was just like, if it's Donald Trump's policy, change it because we're not Donald Trump.

01:03:28.000 And we have seen significant negative repercussions because of that.

01:03:33.000 It's been it's it was very spiteful.

01:03:35.000 I mean, really, we are the not Donald Trump and we're going to do all these things, especially when quietly there were either some things they left in place or they reverse like Trump called out the you're saying my tariffs are bad, but the tariffs are still in place.

01:03:49.000 I think. The policy on the cost of insulin.

01:03:54.000 Trump changed it. Trump had a policy in place that was working.

01:03:58.000 They changed it and then changed it back.

01:04:00.000 The whole talking about the border, they let the border go for three years before they even mentioned it.

01:04:06.000 There's no problem at the border, no problem at the border, no problem at the border.

01:04:09.000 Ten million people came into the United States, unaccounted for.

01:04:13.000 There wasn't a problem until Texas tried to fix it. 0.68

01:04:15.000 Yeah, 300,000 people that are actually criminals, that have some kind of criminal record, and I think it was like 10 or 15,000 people that were murderers.

01:04:27.000 It's just unconscionable.

01:04:29.000 It's absolutely unconscionable.

01:04:30.000 And when Texas tried to fix it, they fought them.

01:04:34.000 I mean, it was amazing watching this fight over the buoys in the Rio Grande Valley, which they tried initially to say, oh, it's an environmental issue.

01:04:45.000 Actually, just kidding. You don't have the authority to put them there.

01:04:47.000 Actually, we just we don't want you to do that.

01:04:50.000 I mean, I thought it was one of Greg Abbott's best moments when he was like, Texas has an obligation to secure its border for its It's like the government was just going around hypothetically lighting fires and then like saying, no, you can't put that out.

01:05:02.000 Light another one over here.

01:05:04.000 But Kamala Harris is saying, I'm the change candidate.

01:05:06.000 Even though I'm currently part of this administration, things will change under me.

01:05:10.000 I mean, this doesn't seem to be a winning mantra.

01:05:13.000 She just disavowed her pick for vice president. 1.00

01:05:14.000 Is she going to pick somebody else now? 1.00

01:05:16.000 Like... And when you saw in the lead up to the debate, there were a couple of stories came out, you know, even though he said he was a really great debater, that's what Minnesotans have said they had known him as, that Walls was having panic attacks, that he was really nervous.

01:05:28.000 I mean, there's obviously a relationship between the DNC and the media, but there were clearly attempts with Harris and Walls before both debates to lower the bar.

01:05:38.000 And I find that interesting.

01:05:40.000 Yeah. Not only can we hold you to a high standard, we can't even hold you to your word.

01:05:43.000 And also we can't even hold you to your promises because you won't tell us what your policies are.

01:05:47.000 Yeah, it's hard to say that you're going to be a solution to all the problems when you're the genesis of all the problems.

01:05:53.000 And again, she's just backed herself against the wall with this.

01:05:56.000 But, you know, her feet aren't held to the fire by the media or the moderators.

01:06:01.000 And they were really just—the fact that they went advanced and said,

01:06:06.000 so are you going to deport the people that are here? What is your plan?

01:06:09.000 Why was there not a question to Kamala—to Walls about why there were all of these people that were here illegally? 1.00

01:06:17.000 And they did the same thing in the Trump-Harris debate.

01:06:20.000 They asked Trump, so what are you going to do? Are you going to deport people? Are you going to be knocking on

01:06:24.000 Not one question to the person who got us in this situation, Kamala Harris,

01:06:24.000 doors?

01:06:30.000 about why did you let all of the people in here so that Trump is forced to deport them?

01:06:35.000 And again, it's just egregious and shameful, and it's just so blatantly obvious.

01:06:39.000 The media doesn't even try to hide that they're asking these loaded bias questions, and it makes it so much easier for Waltz than Harris, and yet Waltz still managed to completely fumble the ball, look incompetent, despite getting all of these assists from the two female moderators. 0.95

01:06:55.000 Mm-hmm. Do you think Walls is someone voters respond to?

01:07:02.000 Because there are polls that indicate that he's likable, right?

01:07:04.000 They feel like he is personable, that there's something about him in interviews.

01:07:08.000 And I feel like that's not the case with Kamala Harris.

01:07:10.000 She is specifically unpersonable. 1.00

01:07:13.000 On the other hand, he is a liar. 0.98

01:07:15.000 He doesn't tell the truth. 1.00

01:07:16.000 He gets caught regularly.

01:07:19.000 Is his personality enough for people to get past the falsehoods?

01:07:23.000 I don't like his personality.

01:07:25.000 I don't either, but that's what the polls say.

01:07:28.000 Personally, he makes my skin crawl.

01:07:30.000 He makes me feel uncomfortable just looking at him and his eyes bulging out of his head and his gesticulations and his movements and his shoulder movements.

01:07:40.000 He makes me very uncomfortable.

01:07:42.000 So I don't know the type of people he's putting at ease or making comfortable, but I almost want to question them.

01:07:48.000 And I don't know if they should be voting, but he makes me really uncomfortable and everyone else here, I don't know, do you guys feel the same?

01:07:55.000 The way he enters a stage, the sashaying he does, it's, I mean, no one walks like that.

01:08:00.000 I watched a 17 minute speech he gave once and it was like hard to watch it.

01:08:05.000 When did he give the speech?

01:08:06.000 I don't know. I think it was his acceptance speech, and I was just like, this is really hard to watch.

01:08:11.000 I don't know why. Just a very uncomfortable guy to watch.

01:08:14.000 He's an odd guy.

01:08:17.000 And again, because he often gets caught misspeaking, and that's complete quotes for everybody who's just listening and not watching, He gets caught and sort of everyone lets it go.

01:08:30.000 Some people will start to acknowledge it.

01:08:32.000 Not really. But it makes it so whenever he gives a personal anecdote, I feel like we all have to be like, somebody double check that.

01:08:38.000 And I hate to say this.

01:08:39.000 I really do. But he gave that story during the debate about his 17-year-old son witnessing a shooting at a community center.

01:08:47.000 And that's horrible.

01:08:48.000 That's awful. But because it's Tim Walls, I find myself having to be like...

01:08:53.000 I was thinking the immediately same thing.

01:08:55.000 You were? I felt bad about it.

01:08:57.000 Do voters want this for four years?

01:08:59.000 It doesn't matter because Mike Pence kind of faded to the background.

01:09:03.000 Kamala Harris faded to the background.

01:09:05.000 Will Tim Walz just fade to the background if Harris is elected?

01:09:08.000 I don't think it matters because I don't think people vote for the vice president.

01:09:11.000 Historically, people don't vote for the vice president.

01:09:13.000 They vote for the top of the ticket.

01:09:15.000 And I think that regardless of how poorly or well Walz does at a debate, I think that people are going to look at Kamala Harris' record as the vice president.

01:09:29.000 Even though the vice president is largely a powerless position, they can look at her voting history in the Senate.

01:09:42.000 They can look at how she behaved as the AG in California, the policies that she's endorsed.

01:09:51.000 And you can see that...

01:09:54.000 Everything that she has ever believed has changed because those policies are significantly unpopular in the United States with the people as it is.

01:10:04.000 So I don't think that Walls matters much.

01:10:07.000 Walls is the opening ban for the ticket concert that the person you actually want to see perform.

01:10:11.000 The VP, people don't really know.

01:10:13.000 They don't really care about. They don't.

01:10:14.000 People who are deeply entrenched in politics can want to watch the VP debates, but I guarantee it will have 10% of the viewership of Trump and Kamala.

01:10:25.000 Well, historically, the VP position has been just a figurehead, as you pointed out earlier.

01:10:30.000 It's just a figurehead position.

01:10:31.000 There's not much substance to it.

01:10:33.000 But occasionally, as history has shown, the VP has to step in, like with LBJ, and now we saw it with Kamala Harris.

01:10:39.000 So I would argue that the VP position actually is very important.

01:10:43.000 Because if something happens to the president, obviously they're next in line.

01:10:47.000 So I think we do need to vet these people and look with a lot of scrutiny at who they are.

01:10:54.000 And just watching kind of Walt's track record in Minnesota, I don't think it's very good.

01:10:59.000 And he's not the type of person that I would want as a leader.

01:11:02.000 I think he says and does a lot of things because it's virtue signaling.

01:11:07.000 And I think like most people on the left, he lives to virtue signal.

01:11:11.000 And I just inherently don't trust people that go around virtue signaling all the time, and he's the best of them.

01:11:16.000 It's also kind of weird because I feel like if Kamala were to win and have Tim Walz, we would just have like a team of VPs.

01:11:23.000 Two VPs. Yeah, it is.

01:11:24.000 It's co-VP-ship.

01:11:26.000 I mean, and does that speak to the fact that neither one of them convey leadership?

01:11:31.000 Like you referenced Tim Walz's opening or his acceptance speech earlier.

01:11:34.000 I remember seeing clips of that.

01:11:36.000 I remember watching it. But when they walked on stage, he looked...

01:11:40.000 I mean, and maybe it's just because he's a man and he's bigger, but he looks more in command than she did.

01:11:45.000 I think this pretty frequently, it's my personal opinion, that she seems to struggle with her self-esteem and she does not seem to handle things independently.

01:11:53.000 She had a custom lectern made for the debates.

01:11:55.000 I heard that. I mean, she brought Tim Walz to the first interview she finally gave.

01:12:01.000 She had to have a male bodyguard and or, you know... 0.99

01:12:04.000 Support animals. Support puppy, I guess.

01:12:06.000 It's very weird. If you watched her interview with Oprah not long ago, I mean, she rivals Biden when it comes to utter incompetence and their lack of oratory skills.

01:12:17.000 And she was absolutely terrible in that interview and said a whole lot of nothing, which she seems to specialize in.

01:12:22.000 Mm-hmm. And so, again, I think if the media actually did their job, more people would be aware of how incompetent she is because it's a lot of word salad and she says a whole lot of nothing. 1.00

01:12:35.000 And you know what? It's actually helping her because no one knows where she stands on any issues because she never says anything about anything.

01:12:42.000 And I think that kind of amorphous, nebulous platform that she's now running on may actually help her again with the assist of the media.

01:12:51.000 Right, so she speaks in riddles.

01:12:53.000 Yeah. He could be taken any way.

01:12:55.000 So you think it's enough to run a vibes campaign?

01:12:58.000 I think right now it seems to be working against Donald Trump.

01:13:03.000 I don't think she necessarily needs to have a well-defined, crystallized, elucidated platform.

01:13:09.000 She clearly doesn't.

01:13:10.000 She doesn't have any solutions for the economy. 1.00

01:13:12.000 She hasn't articulated any solutions for the border.

01:13:15.000 In her debate with Donald Trump, she didn't posit any good policy positions, yet somehow she's neck and neck with Trump in a lot of states and even beating him.

01:13:24.000 So I Based on the data, yeah, it's working for.

01:13:27.000 I think that it's clearly been a situation where a vibes candidate is acceptable.

01:13:35.000 I think that that's what got President Obama elected.

01:13:40.000 Obama's entire hope and change platform allowed the listener to insert what hope and change meant to them.

01:13:50.000 Into what Obama was saying.

01:13:51.000 So his entire campaign was platitudes and hope and change, and it was crafted so well, and he's such a great orator, that the listener could just say, well, this is what he's saying, even though he never said that.

01:14:07.000 You were just imparting what you wanted, what you thought hope and change meant.

01:14:13.000 So it's been this way for, I mean, and he arguably, even George Bush, like when he won in 2000, you talk to people and people were like, well, you know, he's the guy I want to have a beer with.

01:14:27.000 And I think that I think that people, even people that think that they are mostly reasonable and rational, I think that most people actually vote with their gut and vote based on vibes more than they do based on policy.

01:14:43.000 There are some people that are into politics, sure, but that's like 2 or 3% of the population.

01:14:50.000 And you've got everybody in the United States that's over 18 can vote.

01:14:55.000 So, I mean...

01:14:57.000 And Trump has a strong vibe.

01:14:59.000 I mean, there are people who love Trump's vibe, especially when it was fresh and on the scene in 2016.

01:15:04.000 I think that vibes is more than just enough.

01:15:09.000 I think vibes is what you have to have.

01:15:11.000 If you're a policy wonk, like they call you a policy wonk, and you don't really relate to people, and you'll lose.

01:15:20.000 So I think vibes are not just...

01:15:23.000 I think vibes are not just enough.

01:15:25.000 I think that it's more important to be able to have an ability to communicate with people in a way that they feel like you're going to provide them with what they're looking for.

01:15:37.000 This was the DeSantis campaign.

01:15:38.000 That's what I was going to say. It reminds me of this feedback that...

01:15:41.000 He wasn't able to talk.

01:15:42.000 Policy genius. Right.

01:15:44.000 He's got great policies, but he's maybe more introverted or not able to just have the charisma because that's what you're saying.

01:15:49.000 It's not that Obama exclusively ran a vibes campaign, but he had the charisma to sell the vibe.

01:15:56.000 Arguments against universal enfranchisement.

01:15:59.000 I mean, you know, I don't know of a better solution, but the idea that democracy is the be all end all.

01:16:07.000 I mean, look, man, if people are like, well, I'm going to vote for that guy because I'd like to have a beer with him.

01:16:11.000 And I was like, really?

01:16:13.000 And he's, you know, speaking of having beers with people, we in Chicago, we can never have

01:16:17.000 a beer with Obama because he fled and went to California and now he's living in an $11

01:16:22.000 million mansion, which is really odd. 0.98

01:16:27.000 So anyways, yeah, it just seems like he's a little hypocritical. 0.93

01:16:30.000 And Obama, I feel like, is the king of preaching how it's rules for thee, but not for me. 0.86

01:16:37.000 And it's just so interesting how after his presidency, he's now living in California.

01:16:41.000 foreign anybody want to have a beer with Tim Walz or Kamala Harris I wouldn't

01:16:46.000 That would be weird. I mean, there is bias at this table, though.

01:16:50.000 Yeah, I know, but it's just so weird for me because, like, watching that speech was like I was getting the – my gut feeling was like, this is not a good thing.

01:16:56.000 I don't want to hang out with you. Yeah, exactly.

01:16:58.000 It gave me the creeps.

01:16:59.000 It's like in any other profession, do you think you'd have a positive interaction?

01:17:03.000 If Kamala Harris was your, like, realtor, do you think it would be a positive experience?

01:17:08.000 If Tim Walls was your kid's assistant football coach, do you think it would be a positive experience?

01:17:13.000 I don't know. I don't know if they have the charisma to sell me on that.

01:17:15.000 I mean, I'm not buying a car from Trump.

01:17:18.000 I'm not. Good point.

01:17:20.000 Well, I think this, like, I have to have a beer with this person, is for good time American politics.

01:17:25.000 I think right now we're in a lot of, we're on the brink of a lot of really serious questions, and we face turmoil internationally, as well as on our own southern border.

01:17:34.000 And so in some ways, I wonder if, while the vibe and the gut instinct is sort of undeniable, that reality of, like, In a time of crisis, are you going to say, look, I don't actually want to hang out with you, but I think you're the best for the job, and I want the job fixed.

01:17:49.000 I don't think that things are bad enough to make people decide that they want to think.

01:17:53.000 You don't think the economy is? Not bad enough, no.

01:17:55.000 I think that relatability is more difficult this election cycle than it's ever been.

01:17:59.000 We used to be able to, I kind of agree with that guy, right?

01:18:01.000 Most people can't afford their groceries.

01:18:03.000 Have you seen the housing market?

01:18:05.000 It is tanking. Houses are staying on longer and longer.

01:18:08.000 Price drops are all over the place.

01:18:09.000 Go to Zillow. Another thing, if you look at the stock market, the stock market's reached all-time highs or whatever, and it continuously does that.

01:18:16.000 But if you take out seven of the biggest stocks and you look at the stock market without those stocks, it's underwater.

01:18:25.000 It's like Google and Apple and Amazon and just a handful of companies are actually keeping the entire stock market afloat.

01:18:33.000 Yeah, it's the FAANG stocks.

01:18:34.000 They're keeping the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 afloat.

01:18:38.000 And like you said, it's just a handful of them.

01:18:40.000 But it's very interesting, circling back to Kamala, that she wants us to think that starting January 10th, she's going to fix all of the problems going on in the country, but she can't fix them now.

01:18:51.000 And so again, it just calls into question, why should we entrust you to fix these problems when you're in office now and they're just getting worse?

01:19:00.000 She's brat. Yeah. 1.00

01:19:02.000 I don't think that's enough. I also think she can't divorce herself from the Biden legacy no matter what.

01:19:07.000 I mean, unless she comes out and says, you know, Joe Biden wouldn't let me anywhere at all, and I wasn't allowed to influence the campaign, and that's why it wasn't effective, which she won't do because she's already said, well, I was in the room.

01:19:18.000 And he'll come out and do a press and be like, well, actually, yes, she was, and I did let her do these things, and Bruh.

01:19:45.000 Bruh.

01:19:46.000 Quote, Brooke Slusser plays on the same team as a trans-identified male Blair Fleming, and three teams have pulled out of competing against the team.

01:20:17.000 Slusser has joined with over a dozen other female athletes in a class-action lawsuit against the NCAA for Title IX violations over inclusions of biological males on women's sports teams, according to Outlook. 0.66

01:20:30.000 Outkick reports.

01:20:31.000 The lawsuit was originally filed in March with athletes such as the former University of Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines, Olympian Rekha Gorgi, and two-time NCAA champion Kylie Allens joining in.

01:20:47.000 You know, I'm so glad maybe someone who's interested in gender issues is here tonight because I do think that this is something that we as a culture have had to take more and more seriously.

01:20:58.000 And similarly to maybe the immigration crisis, which at one time people were like, well, people are in need.

01:21:03.000 They need help. We just have to be compassionate.

01:21:04.000 We have to be kind. We're now seeing people.

01:21:07.000 Seeing people say, actually, this is not compassionate or kind, and it's harming people.

01:21:12.000 It's not effective. I think there is a similar tenor to this realization that saying, oh, well, maybe we'll just let them live their lives how they want to, is not the solution, especially when you have these large funded programs that young women work really hard for the opportunities to take part in.

01:21:28.000 Yeah, well, as a trans woman, I feel really strongly about this.

01:21:31.000 As you said, it's kind of hit an inflection point where it started out as kind of like, oh, we'll just be kind and compassionate.

01:21:36.000 And now it's kind of reached this boiling over point.

01:21:39.000 And I think with this, I've said it before, I've been asked a number of times, Josh, as a trans woman, what do you think?

01:21:45.000 Should you be playing in a men's league or a women's league?

01:21:48.000 And I've always said we need our own independent league.

01:21:51.000 Because, you know, our biology was unfortunately assigned male at birth.

01:21:58.000 And our muscular structure and our anatomy obviously is male.

01:22:05.000 And there's just so many nuances with this.

01:22:07.000 And I think because of it, it's not appropriate for us to play in a men's league or a women's league.

01:22:12.000 I think we need our own trans league.

01:22:14.000 I think trans men should play with other trans men.

01:22:17.000 And I think trans women like me should play with other trans women.

01:22:20.000 And I feel like that's the only fair compromise.

01:22:23.000 Because when you have trans women like me playing against biological women... 1.00

01:22:29.000 There is kind of an unfair advantage in certain aspects, and so I think it's okay to talk about that and discuss it and even disagree with other people about it.

01:22:39.000 The left wants everyone to kind of think the same, and they don't like open dialogue and discussion and civic discourse, but it's okay to talk about these things and to disagree with people about them.

01:22:50.000 So my solution would be give us our own league, but I'm interested what you guys think.

01:22:55.000 Well, first of all, I'm sorry that you were born a white male. 0.99

01:22:58.000 They're the worst. I feel sorry for you. 0.99

01:23:01.000 My bigger issue is it's not just the sports.

01:23:03.000 It's the locker rooms, right?

01:23:05.000 It's the privacy of these women who are women who are changing out with men.

01:23:09.000 I have an issue with that.

01:23:10.000 If I had a daughter, not many daughters, but I would have an issue with that.

01:23:13.000 So that's kind of where I start.

01:23:15.000 I think we have a lot of these conversations in sports.

01:23:17.000 There are scholarships. All those things are important.

01:23:18.000 I'm more concerned about the safety.

01:23:20.000 You have five boys?

01:23:22.000 I do. Wow. Wow.

01:23:23.000 I am deaf every time.

01:23:25.000 And you already assigned their gender at birth.

01:23:27.000 They haven't chosen their gender yet? 1.00

01:23:29.000 Well, they were born with a penis. 1.00

01:23:30.000 Okay. Alright. 1.00

01:23:32.000 Do you think maybe they'll choose their gender down the road and it might be different?

01:23:36.000 Not in my household. Do you feel like this is something your—I don't know if you homeschool or if your kids go to public school or anything, but do you think this is something that teenagers are having a conversation around?

01:23:51.000 Because there is, you know, a generational difference in how they view gender ideology, partially because younger students have been more exposed to it, and maybe there's a level of acceptance that they feel— On the other hand, we do have a lot of young high school age girls who are saying, I am uncomfortable. I do not feel like this is a safe and appropriate environment for me and feeling as though the administrations at their high schools don't support them.

01:24:16.000 Well, I mean, I'll start with saying, like, if you're an adult, you're an adult, make your decisions.

01:24:19.000 I really don't care because you're an adult and you have self-autonomy.

01:24:22.000 Go live your life, right?

01:24:23.000 It's the schools I have an issue with.

01:24:25.000 My kids all go to public school.

01:24:26.000 And I send them to public school because a lot of kids that go to school will never hear a message of conservatism.

01:24:32.000 So my kids are emissaries.

01:24:33.000 My kids are ambassadors. They are missionaries who go to these places and tell the woes of communism and just common sense to these kids because who's teaching them?

01:24:40.000 They're not getting out of their households.

01:24:41.000 And I certainly can't go.

01:24:43.000 They won't have me. So my kids go and deliver that message.

01:24:47.000 As far as the rhetoric at their schools, it has shifted a lot since they were in middle school to high school.

01:24:52.000 The rhetoric now is shifting a lot more towards anti-wokeism.

01:24:56.000 Can I say the GNR on this podcast?

01:25:01.000 I don't know.

01:25:02.000 Probably not. Probably not. Okay.

01:25:03.000 Well, the GNR is flippantly used at high school now, all over the place.

01:25:07.000 It reminds me of a rebirth of the 90s.

01:25:10.000 Interesting. I mean, I know that Gen Z loves 90s fashion, so that's entirely surprising to me where the culture come with it.

01:25:17.000 Do you have any kids?

01:25:18.000 Do you have a plan on how you would address this?

01:25:20.000 I don't, but I was homeschooled my whole life.

01:25:22.000 So in the 90s, my father took my two brothers out of elementary school because him and my mom weren't happy with the books they were being sent home with.

01:25:29.000 They're very ideological. In the 90s, huh?

01:25:31.000 Yeah. This was 1993.

01:25:34.000 1992, actually.

01:25:35.000 And the books were like, Why Timmy Has Two Daddies.

01:25:38.000 Just things that, you know, they thought they'd be reading Huckleberry Finn.

01:25:42.000 They were like eight and six years old.

01:25:44.000 I was four.

01:25:46.000 And so my parents yanked them out.

01:25:48.000 And I was homeschooled my entire life with the exception of one year when I begged my parents to go to public school as a sophomore.

01:25:55.000 And I went and it was not very fun.

01:25:57.000 But my parents recognized, even early on in the 90s, how bad the schools were getting and how they're moving away from kind of the intelligentsia and the academic-oriented nature that they had always been and which they should be as educational institutions and were becoming much more politicized and much more ideological.

01:26:16.000 And I think it has only gotten worse to answer your question.

01:26:19.000 And so if I did have kids, I would...

01:26:24.000 Obviously, I wouldn't have the child.

01:26:27.000 Trans men can get pregnant. 0.94

01:26:28.000 I can't as a trans woman.

01:26:30.000 But if I, as a woman, got another woman pregnant and had children with her, I would probably homeschool them because I don't trust educational institutions to be educational anymore. 0.97

01:26:43.000 And I think that's a sad indictment on where we're at as a country.

01:26:47.000 And I know Trump's made comments about how he would defund the Department of Education.

01:26:53.000 And so there's this whole debate around it and vouchers, you know, to go to private schools, charter schools, because public schools are so bad.

01:27:01.000 So I think you have both crime and violence in public schools now is getting worse and the politicization of public schools.

01:27:09.000 So... It's definitely tough.

01:27:11.000 I don't think I would want to send my kids to public school, maybe a private school, but they're so expensive it's almost prohibitive to send your kids to private school if you're middle income.

01:27:21.000 So I think it's definitely an issue, and it's sad.

01:27:25.000 Do you think... In this case, there is a difference between the policies in place for dealing with transgender identifying students in high school versus college.

01:27:37.000 And the distinction I'm obviously drawing is that in one environment, the majority of people involved are minors, right?

01:27:42.000 All of the students involved are minors.

01:27:44.000 At the oldest 18, the majority of them are younger.

01:27:47.000 But in college, you know, you were saying before, if you're an adult, you want to live the way you live.

01:27:51.000 Maybe that's fine. In college, presumably everyone is an adult.

01:27:54.000 Does it make a difference in our policies when it's only involving adults, even though it's an educational institution?

01:28:03.000 I'm hitting you with a tough question.

01:28:05.000 That is a tough question. I definitely think – I think minors should be protected above and beyond.

01:28:09.000 I think as adults, I think – I don't really know because the libertarian side of me says I don't think that we should stop people from playing sports.

01:28:18.000 If they want to put on a dress and feel pretty, okay, whatever.

01:28:21.000 But there's also the physical differences, right?

01:28:25.000 You don't want to have men stepping in the ring and beating up women. 1.00

01:28:28.000 So there are issues there.

01:28:29.000 I honestly don't know where I land on it.

01:28:31.000 And it's interesting because the majority of universities in the country, I'm assuming, I can bet pretty easily that San Jose State University is one of them, receive some form of government funding, right?

01:28:44.000 So if you are relying on revenue that is generated by the tax base...

01:28:48.000 And this is not an issue that the tax base has a shared opinion on, right?

01:28:53.000 A lot of people don't agree on transgender ideology and how to accommodate different athletes.

01:28:59.000 I mean, you offered a solution that not everyone does.

01:29:02.000 A lot of the narrative is like you either let biological males who identify as women on the team or you're bigoted, but...

01:29:11.000 I feel like it's not as common to say, well, maybe they should just have their own league.

01:29:16.000 And so in some ways, to me, colleges, even though everyone's an adult—I know I asked you this question, but I'm thinking about it myself—even though everyone's an adult at the university level, I don't know that as a taxpayer I want to have funding going to universities that are making these decisions without my consent.

01:29:32.000 Yeah. I can see that. It's also, I just think it's selfish of them.

01:29:35.000 At the end of the day, right? I mean, if you want to express yourself that way, whatever, that's fine.

01:29:39.000 But why do I have to play along with it?

01:29:41.000 I guess that's kind of my issue with it, if I had one.

01:29:44.000 Yeah. It is interesting.

01:29:46.000 I was just going to say, I mean, trans women are called trans women for a reason. 0.95

01:29:51.000 They're transitioning. They don't all have to transition.

01:29:54.000 The medical guidelines make it clear that you can be trans without transitioning.

01:29:58.000 You just have to have a gender identity that differs from your sex assigned at birth.

01:30:03.000 But trans women are typically transitioning from one sex or one gender to another.

01:30:10.000 And so it's very hard to argue that trans women are the exact same as biological women, because by necessity, a prerequisite of us being trans women is we were once men.

01:30:22.000 And you can't erase that and you can't negate it.

01:30:24.000 And I think it's insulting when the left tries to negate it and say trans women are women.

01:30:29.000 We are trans women.

01:30:32.000 Hence the name. Hence why we differentiate between trans women and cis or biological women.

01:30:38.000 And so I don't like that the left is not consistent on this, and I think it's not fair that they try to erase our transness by saying trans women are women.

01:30:48.000 We're trans women. And because of that, I think it's only fair that we have our own league, and I think that's the most fair solution.

01:30:55.000 But it's just a very nuanced issue, and it's tough.

01:30:58.000 I don't know what the answer is.

01:31:00.000 There isn't a panacea for this, or we already would have had it at the collegiate and professional level.

01:31:06.000 And there's also intersex people.

01:31:08.000 What do we do with intersex people? 1.00

01:31:10.000 I went to a really small public high school in sort of a rural area, and you will...

01:31:17.000 Not all programs exist if not enough people are participating, right?

01:31:20.000 So like if you don't have enough kids sign up for certain classes, you don't have them.

01:31:23.000 If you don't have enough people signing up for a team, the team goes away.

01:31:26.000 And so in some ways, I think the counter argument to the, well, they should have their own league or team is to say, well, then they wouldn't have enough players to field, you know, a competitive level.

01:31:34.000 But at the same time, there wasn't enough lacrosse players at my high school.

01:31:37.000 So we had like a club lacrosse team that had all four of our high schools combined into one team.

01:31:43.000 That's what they did with football at my high school.

01:31:45.000 analogies to separate but equal.

01:31:47.000 Oh, if trans people have their own league, it's like separate but equal in the 1950s

01:31:52.000 and Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education, and this is going to be bad,

01:31:56.000 and we're just going back to, you know, seven decades ago.

01:32:00.000 But I don't think it's a separate but equal situation.

01:32:02.000 I think it absolutely has to be separate.

01:32:05.000 When it came to black and white people, it didn't need to be separate by necessity, by

01:32:10.000 nature.

01:32:12.000 For this, by nature, I think it's only fair if it is separate and we have our own leagues.

01:32:17.000 So I think that's unfair to analogize it to the separate but equal thing.

01:32:22.000 In the 50s, again, I think that's just a way to silence people and to chill the conversation by insinuating that they're bigoted or that they're somehow racist if we think trans people should have our own league.

01:32:32.000 I actually think us having our own league is very empowering.

01:32:35.000 I don't think there's anything negative about it.

01:32:38.000 Yeah, I saw that movie, League of Their Own.

01:32:40.000 It was very inspirational.

01:32:41.000 They were really into having their own team.

01:32:43.000 I'm curious to get your perspective on this.

01:32:45.000 What is the relationship between transgender women and feminism? 1.00

01:32:51.000 Yeah, it depends who you ask, right?

01:32:53.000 Because we're not a monolith and we don't all think the same.

01:32:56.000 I'm a libertarian-inclined trans woman.

01:32:59.000 I have a libertarian ethic.

01:33:01.000 But a lot are ideologues on the left and they subscribe to woke ideology.

01:33:08.000 I don't. So I think everybody's opinion is different.

01:33:12.000 Sorry, what was the original question?

01:33:14.000 I was asking what's the relationship between transgender women and feminism? 0.89

01:33:19.000 Right. So a lot would argue that trans women are women, and so they're just part of the feminist movement and the feminist ethic. 1.00

01:33:29.000 It's called liberal feminism, or I think new wave feminism, and it differs from the feminism of the 1960s, where it was women just trying to get equal rights with men and to be considered equal. 0.98

01:33:41.000 And so, again, it's a very nuanced, difficult situation where we have Women who are claiming that they're being erased by biological men and being mansplained to by biological men identifying as women and they feel like our rights are in direct opposition to their rights and that trans women are actually erasing cis or biological women.

01:34:07.000 And so it depends who you talk to.

01:34:08.000 I think biological women make some very valid points that they're being silenced and erased 1.00

01:34:14.000 by the postmodern trans movement.

01:34:20.000 I don't want to opine on that.

01:34:22.000 I just feel like trans women are trans women and biological women are biological women.

01:34:28.000 And I do understand that they feel like they're being pushed out of spaces that were traditionally reserved for women only.

01:34:37.000 Do you think that it's fair for people to believe that the push for transgender ideology, this belief in the flexibility of genders, is ultimately to erase gender from society overall?

01:34:53.000 I think people could back that up.

01:34:56.000 I think that you could make that argument and show that that's happening.

01:35:01.000 I'm just a trans woman trying to live my life, so I try not to get too involved in the political side of it.

01:35:09.000 But again, I understand why biological women take umbrage at their spaces being encroached upon by people who sadly were assigned male at birth, but we identify as women.

01:35:22.000 And so I understand their complaints and I hear them, but we're in a tough position because we feel this way.

01:35:28.000 And I understand that some of us might have gender dysphoria, which is categorized as a mental illness under the DSM-5 system.

01:35:38.000 Is it in the 5 now? It's the 5 now.

01:35:40.000 And I get that.

01:35:41.000 And so they'll make claims. 1.00

01:35:42.000 Oh, you guys are just mentally ill and you need help and you need therapy. 0.99

01:35:47.000 That's the argument for gender reassignment surgery. 1.00

01:35:51.000 Is gender dysphoria. 0.92

01:35:52.000 They have gender dysphoria. The surgery leaves them of the stress that they get from seeing the quote-unquote wrong genitalia.

01:36:02.000 So without gender dysphoria, there's no reason... 0.99

01:36:06.000 Well, actually, you're wrong on that.

01:36:08.000 So the medical literature, whether you look at WHO, NIH, NHS, WPATH, transequality.org, or any of the medical guidelines all say that you don't have to have gender dysphoria to be trans.

01:36:20.000 You don't have to transition to be trans.

01:36:22.000 I'm saying that's the argument for the surgeries.

01:36:25.000 For the surgeries?

01:36:26.000 Yeah, the argument for the surgeries is typically gender dysphoria. 0.92

01:36:29.000 You have gender dysphoria and you get the surgery to alleviate the symptoms of gender dysphoria.

01:36:34.000 Yes, correct. The data tends to suggest that surgeries don't always solve the problem, and there's still very high rates of self-harm for people that have undergone the surgeries.

01:36:46.000 So yeah, it's just a very tough issue.

01:36:48.000 And Hannah-Claire, to answer your question, they're called gender abolitionists, and yes, there are a significant portion of people on the left that...

01:36:58.000 It's something that Phyllis Schlafly warned against when she was campaigning against the ERA, right?

01:37:07.000 We don't actually want to live in a genderless society that doesn't recognize the advantages and disadvantages that both genders face. 0.96

01:37:14.000 Are we assuming that gender and sex are the same thing in this circumstance?

01:37:17.000 No, they're different.

01:37:20.000 Gender is a social construct.

01:37:22.000 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But the more radical wings of people in my community in gender ideology actually would say now it used to be birth sex.

01:37:31.000 You were born a certain sex. 1.00

01:37:33.000 Now they say assigned sex or sex on your passport and medical papers.

01:37:37.000 So the radical wings of my party or of my community are actually getting rid of sex altogether and making it look 0.52

01:37:44.000 like it's an arbitrary, capricious, and subjective construct like gender.

01:37:50.000 And that was not the case just a few years ago. Nobody in my community was saying that sex was an arbitrary and

01:37:56.000 subjective concept.

01:37:57.000 But now they've become more radical, and they're saying not only is gender a social construct, so is sex.

01:38:03.000 And that's why you have euphemisms like assigned sex at birth instead of just biological sex.

01:38:10.000 That flies in the face of trust the science.

01:38:12.000 What if they just added handicaps to the sports?

01:38:14.000 Like if you're playing with a dude on your team, like for female volleyball, the other team starts with five points 1.00

01:38:18.000 or something.

01:38:20.000 I think that's – I mean personally, like I think that would kind of ruin what people have worked for though, right?

01:38:27.000 Like all of the female athletes who have worked for something who want to compete against other women to be at the top of their game or whatever are losing that ability if you suddenly add on handicaps. 1.00

01:38:35.000 I mean it gets very – I think it could work for golf.

01:38:37.000 It gets very dystopian.

01:38:38.000 And gold tees and white tees.

01:38:40.000 Oh, good. Oh.

01:38:41.000 Well, I love talking about the dark and weird world that people are trying to push us into.

01:38:46.000 But I do think that we need to jump to Super Chats because we have such a supportive fan base.

01:38:51.000 I'm going to pull up one from Scooby Dragon who said, Howdy people!

01:38:55.000 It's amazing how punctual Scooby Dragon has become with this first Super Chat of the night.

01:39:01.000 C Cowboy says military assets are still not being used to help North Carolina.

01:39:07.000 FEMA has only used the military to ferry around the governor and the media.

01:39:14.000 Chances are they will not be used for rescue, recovery, or even logistics.

01:39:21.000 The media is lying. I think this is such an interesting sentiment going into the election.

01:39:26.000 Like, everyone is saying no, FEMA's doing—or at least corporate media is saying FEMA's doing a great job.

01:39:31.000 And everyone else is like, no, they're not.

01:39:33.000 We need more help. And they're like, trust FEMA. FEMA's great.

01:39:36.000 I don't know how you guys feel about this. 0.86

01:39:39.000 It's almost like the government hates you and it's fine with you dying.

01:39:42.000 I don't know. It's not a positive message.

01:39:44.000 Yeah, it'll be the first time in history.

01:39:48.000 Let's see. NeverSummer160, who has an American flag count next to her name, says, Caitlin Collins is HCB's evil twin. 0.99

01:39:57.000 That's hilarious. I don't really remember what Caitlin Collins looks like, but that would be hilarious.

01:40:02.000 SuncoastSamurai says, put a girl on. 1.00

01:40:05.000 I'm here. I'm here.

01:40:07.000 Oh, sorry. I was gonna say I'm a biological human female, but, you know, I guess it depends on what type of girl you're looking for. 0.83

01:40:14.000 We've got a diverse crowd tonight.

01:40:19.000 Let's see. Tricky Hickey says, happy birthday to me.

01:40:24.000 My tinfoil hat is telling me that the Dems are losing on purpose because the economy will crash and they want to blame Trump.

01:40:32.000 This goes back to the Teamsters holding off on their strike, right?

01:40:38.000 They said, oh, we'll start up in January.

01:40:40.000 Maybe Trump gets in and they stop the supply chain.

01:40:42.000 And there's a report, I think, from the Washington Post that says that Biden was on some of the late night phone calls kind of trying to make that happen.

01:40:49.000 Do you think that the longshoremen are promised something for delaying their strike or do you think there's...

01:40:56.000 I can all but guarantee it.

01:40:58.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

01:41:01.000 Let's see. Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:41:03.000 says, Brimcast is better than Shimcast.

01:41:05.000 There, I said it. Of course it is.

01:41:07.000 You cannot trust Seamus Coglett, who is here and disappears and also, you know, is mostly big characters.

01:41:13.000 No, Seamus is great. I love the week that we did Shimcast.

01:41:16.000 It was really fun. And, you know, if he didn't have his whole other business to run, I wish he could be here more.

01:41:23.000 Let's see. I feel like I have to vamp while I also read at the same time to find stuff.

01:41:30.000 Let's see. What is this?

01:41:32.000 Heron Gaming News says, Hannah, Hannah Claire, should be forced to dress like Tim while covering for Tim, toke included. 0.83

01:41:42.000 Hopefully my $5 Canadian.

01:41:44.000 Canada. Can you please see...

01:41:49.000 I can't read the rest of it, but...

01:41:51.000 When he says toke, he means toke, and that's a hat.

01:41:54.000 Oh, it's very Canadian. It's the beanie he wears. 0.98

01:41:56.000 I'm aware. It's a bargain.

01:41:58.000 Again, if you guys remember Shimcast, and you don't know this episode, we did have a night where we all dressed like Tim, including Serge, our sweet producer, who is hiding off camera nowadays.

01:42:07.000 But yeah, I mean, I think I should develop a signature look.

01:42:11.000 Do you guys have like a signature podcast I'm going on the air look?

01:42:15.000 Do you guys have a signature outfit?

01:42:17.000 I just wear the same thing every day.

01:42:18.000 I wear a suit blazer.

01:42:20.000 I try to, you know, go with a more androgynous look.

01:42:24.000 So typically I wear a button-up shirt and then a suit blazer.

01:42:28.000 So it's a little bit different.

01:42:29.000 I almost wore a blazer tonight. Yeah. Girl power. 0.87

01:42:30.000 T-shirt. Let's see.

01:42:34.000 Put a girl on says, where is my lectern? 1.00

01:42:37.000 And also, love ya, Phil!

01:42:39.000 Cheers. Yeah, that one.

01:42:41.000 That emoji. Do you want to tell us some stories from Tor?

01:42:44.000 I mean... It is kind of funny that you were just like, in your absence, like some people like, take a sick day, but you took a, I'm gonna go be a rock star break.

01:42:53.000 I mean, you know, it's a fun job, so...

01:42:57.000 You missed us? You came back?

01:42:58.000 I did miss you guys. I missed everybody here.

01:43:00.000 It's a wonderful, wonderful opportunity to be here and talk smack on the internet.

01:43:05.000 It's fun. Did people think you were permanently gone?

01:43:09.000 No, a lot of people were asking when I was coming back, but I didn't feel like people thought I was perfectly gone.

01:43:15.000 I mean, I was talking about it regularly about, you know, I'll be gone for a little while and stuff, so, you know.

01:43:22.000 You prepared them? I did.

01:43:23.000 I tried to prepare them. And people were frequently asking, when are you coming back?

01:43:27.000 When are you coming back? And, you know, I was like, I'll be back first week of October.

01:43:31.000 Did anyone come up to you during your shows and ask about it?

01:43:34.000 There was a couple people that came to the meet and greets and stuff.

01:43:37.000 There was a couple that came with a sign that said the left lane is for crime.

01:43:42.000 Oh, nice. There was a couple people that came with shirts and stuff like that.

01:43:47.000 Anti-communist, counter-revolutionary merch?

01:43:49.000 The no-step-on-snack shirts were seen a couple times and stuff.

01:43:54.000 So there was a significant representation of the TimCast audience, and it was nice to see.

01:44:00.000 People were frequently saying, when are you going back, you know?

01:44:03.000 What city moshed the hardest?

01:44:06.000 Moshed the hardest... 0.99

01:44:11.000 I think it was Albuquerque.

01:44:13.000 Albuquerque was really cool.

01:44:15.000 They're a really, really good town.

01:44:18.000 We did a show in Tampa that was pretty insane.

01:44:22.000 We get down. Yeah, it was fun.

01:44:24.000 It was a lot of fun. It's hard to pick who had the best, the most energy, and I'm certainly not going to point out the ones that had the least, but there were a few out there that were just like, alright, this is not, you know, it's a Monday or whatever.

01:44:40.000 It's making me laugh because I'm going to read because of the Super Chats and there's a bunch that are like this one. 0.98

01:44:44.000 Joey's Razor says, Phil is back!

01:44:47.000 Hell yeah! I think they really did miss you.

01:44:50.000 I appreciate the warm welcome back.

01:44:53.000 Someone is asking me if I locked Seamus outside again and that he is just a cat and not a leprechaun.

01:45:00.000 I have done nothing to Seamus the cat.

01:45:02.000 I don't even know if that's his name anymore.

01:45:03.000 I've heard a rumor it's changing.

01:45:05.000 Yeah, I thought Tim changed it. I thought he did too, but that's a question for Tim.

01:45:09.000 As far as I know, that cat is totally safe and if something's going on, it had nothing to do with me.

01:45:15.000 It's so nerve-wracking to be on the internet with accusations.

01:45:19.000 Let's see. Um...

01:45:23.000 Aw, this one's nice. Mike Coney says, Brimcast IRL is amazing and the best show on the internet.

01:45:28.000 Phil, you lost the game.

01:45:33.000 It's not just me. Everyone lost it now.

01:45:35.000 Yes, we all lost together.

01:45:37.000 How can you do that?

01:45:38.000 If you don't know it, you should just stay out of it.

01:45:39.000 You don't want to know. Alright.

01:45:43.000 Okay. Kane Abel says, Phil, the death toll is up to a thousand or more from what I've read.

01:45:49.000 I haven't read a thousand.

01:45:51.000 I have read two hundred, but I've heard that the missing toll, which is the problem.

01:45:55.000 Yeah, the thing, like I said, the people that are missing, it's not likely that it's going to be, you know...

01:46:03.000 lives it's more recovery now. It's horrible to say but there's a lot

01:46:08.000 of people in the mud you know there's a lot of people that are that are probably 0.98

01:46:12.000 going to remain missing indefinitely because they're you know buried

01:46:17.000 underneath a lot of a lot of mud and it's it's it's just horrible. It is

01:46:25.000 And I, you know, I'm actually really glad that there are so many people, independent media, especially who are talking about this so much, because it is sort of my fear that in our microscopic attention span news cycle, that this will be something that becomes a problem for someone else.

01:46:39.000 I mean, we've had other extreme weather.

01:46:40.000 This is obviously the worst in recent years.

01:46:43.000 But, you know, like there was flooding in Tennessee a couple of years or I think a year and a half ago, two years ago.

01:46:48.000 And It wasn't maybe as bad, but also like it didn't get the attention that maybe it needed.

01:46:54.000 So it's good that people are keeping it front of mind and seeing if they can find ways to help.

01:47:00.000 John Hansen says, Phil, glad you're back.

01:47:02.000 I appreciate your perspective, sir.

01:47:04.000 Crew, baby number two will be here on 1018, assuming she decides to come early. 0.67

01:47:09.000 Congratulations. It's like a laugh-crying emoji.

01:47:12.000 I think babies come whenever they decide to, but I've never known the details of that.

01:47:17.000 Ian Slater says, Biden-Harris is doing the same as CCP during their floods this year, stopping private citizens so the government gets the glory sick.

01:47:29.000 Yeah, I think there are a lot of people who feel that way, that this is like, let the government do it, otherwise you're just mean to the government.

01:47:35.000 Buttigieg was shutting down airspace.

01:47:37.000 People were flying drones trying to find survivors.

01:47:40.000 And Buttigieg shut down airspace.

01:47:42.000 He said, stop flying your drones.

01:47:44.000 We don't want to find people.

01:47:47.000 It's disgusting. It's actually very disgusting. 0.71

01:47:50.000 It makes me angry. And we're not on the aftershows, so I'm going to stop talking about it.

01:47:54.000 And you would think, I get if there are certain things the government feels like, you know, they have experts, they have special equipment, like maybe there are a couple things that they feel like they have to have one point of contact handling.

01:48:05.000 But not along Starlinking, Starlinking is so bizarre to me.

01:48:09.000 Like you don't want people to be able to potentially say I need help.

01:48:13.000 Butler PA, right?

01:48:15.000 Well, they're bad with drones and technology, apparently. 0.56

01:48:20.000 Let's see. It's pettiness. 0.99

01:48:22.000 They don't want Musk to help, and so they make petty garbage like this that is only prolonging the suffering of people. 0.96

01:48:37.000 Yeah. Yeah, I think if we ask the people who lost everything and who are missing loved ones, hey, do you want to wait for the government to get involved and take their time setting up and all the hotels and all the resources, or do you want to have private citizens who are your neighbors come help and find you?

01:48:49.000 There's arguments about funding and stuff like that, and there's one thing that I want to point out.

01:48:54.000 The limitations that are going on right now, it's because we're under a CR continuing resolution.

01:49:01.000 And on day one, the president, the speaker of the house, and the senate majority leader should have been calling, because we're in a recess, they should have been calling for everyone in congress to get their ass back to DC and vote to fund this.

01:49:17.000 Vote to make sure...

01:49:19.000 That the people of North Carolina and all affected areas in Georgia and Florida, all of the affected areas, make sure that those people had what they needed.

01:49:27.000 So it's a failure of the entire government.

01:49:30.000 It's a failure of the speaker.

01:49:31.000 It's a failure of the Senate majority leader.

01:49:34.000 And it's a failure of the executive to not say to all of Congress.

01:49:38.000 Congress should have actually said on their own.

01:49:41.000 They should have said, we need to get back to D.C. I know we're out here fundraising, trying to make sure that we have...

01:49:46.000 I have the money to continue our campaigns, and I know that it's right before an election, but F your campaign.

01:49:54.000 Get back to DC and vote to make sure that the government can do the things that the government needs to do to help the people.

01:50:01.000 They have no problem sending money overseas.

01:50:05.000 And they have all the authority that they need.

01:50:08.000 They've got the printing press.

01:50:10.000 They can just come back and vote and say, hey, we're going to go ahead and vote for this bill, make sure that this bill passes, so that way the people of North Carolina, of Georgia, of Florida, the people in South Carolina that need it have the resources they need.

01:50:26.000 Where are they? Where are they?

01:50:29.000 Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says, FEMA employees are overpaid for the quality of service they provided.

01:50:36.000 We should demand FEMA employees be...

01:50:38.000 Employee pay be slashed by 50% minimum.

01:50:42.000 Equity demands it.

01:50:43.000 What do you guys think? Are there consequences for FEMA or is this a Biden overarching problem?

01:50:46.000 There are no consequences for anyone.

01:50:48.000 I'm completely fine with slashing lots of government things.

01:50:51.000 So, I mean, yes, off the bat.

01:50:53.000 I think this response is...

01:50:55.000 It's... If it's not intentional, it is just gross incompetence.

01:50:59.000 But I feel like it's leaning more towards intentional.

01:51:02.000 I really do. When you're telling private citizens they can't help, these are neighbors.

01:51:06.000 These are people who have a history and a career in rescue operations that are showing up to do this.

01:51:11.000 And they're being told no.

01:51:13.000 Their supplies are being confiscated.

01:51:17.000 I think that's interesting.

01:51:19.000 I'm just going to read this super chat that I think is sort of relevant to that point.

01:51:23.000 Brandon Moore says first responders are living in their ambulances and staging outside the affected areas, not in hotels.

01:51:30.000 My work has 10 ambulances staging in Greenville, South Carolina under FEMA along with 200 plus others.

01:51:37.000 So FEMA is not...

01:51:39.000 Helping or giving access to emergency services?

01:51:41.000 I was going to ask that earlier, but I forgot.

01:51:43.000 I mean, is it work that FEMA sends out?

01:51:45.000 Yes. The same thing happened in Hawaii.

01:51:47.000 They were staying at these resorts after the fire decimated the entire town.

01:51:51.000 You mean Oprah wasn't letting them come stay at her huge mansion that she had stolen from indigenous people?

01:51:58.000 No, that didn't happen.

01:52:01.000 If you activate the National Guard, the military can have a Burger King anywhere in the world in 48 hours.

01:52:10.000 I mean, we have the ability.

01:52:12.000 During the Berlin airlift, you had a plane landing every 30 seconds.

01:52:17.000 Every 30 seconds.

01:52:19.000 Don't tell me that we couldn't take care of these people.

01:52:23.000 They absolutely could if there was the will.

01:52:26.000 100%. And they're just not doing it.

01:52:30.000 I feel like they only do what's politically expedient or what's going to help them in the election.

01:52:35.000 And if a whole bunch of illegal immigrants are going to vote for them, then whatever. 1.00

01:52:40.000 They won't have a border and they'll let them flood in. 0.99

01:52:42.000 Everything they do is based on their own selfish needs and desires.

01:52:47.000 And I think you're seeing that play out here.

01:52:49.000 What can these people, who probably now can't even vote because there won't be a place to vote, what can they do for us?

01:52:55.000 Nothing. Okay, well, whatever.

01:52:56.000 Who cares what happens?

01:52:57.000 Oh, but a bunch of illegal immigrants just flooded into the country.

01:53:01.000 Let's give them visa cards and let's put them up in luxury hotels because they're going to vote for us. 0.98

01:53:06.000 And so you just kind of see who gets their attention and who doesn't.

01:53:09.000 All they care about is votes. Thank you very much.

01:53:29.000 I appreciate it very much. Wouldn't it be funny if more people find out about All That Remains because of TimCast?

01:53:34.000 I think there's probably some that I'm sure that there are some.

01:53:38.000 Me in particular, but you know. That's because I'm ignorant and don't know anything about music. 0.78

01:53:43.000 There are some questions for Tim, but I feel as though I cannot answer him on his behalf as he is not here.

01:53:50.000 Text him. Yeah. Call him from the road.

01:53:52.000 Hey, Tim. Put him up to the phone.

01:53:54.000 Bro, they're asking this in the chat.

01:53:57.000 Let's see. This is James Stuntell Flat said, the ideal situation is a united community and divided power structures, but what we have is the inverse.

01:54:07.000 I think that's true. We do have more of a united government and very deeply divided communities.

01:54:14.000 This is something I think about a lot because I think American culture is precious and we sort of didn't maintain it.

01:54:20.000 You know, obviously immigration has impacted the way our country has developed, but there was always this idea that you were joining something and that while you might bring some of your own backgrounds or whatever with you, that ultimately the purpose was to become part of this bigger system and contribute to our values and ideals.

01:54:39.000 And I think in some ways by not maintaining them, We make it harder for people who are legally immigrating to this country to become American, but we also make it very challenging for our young people to know what it means to be a country and therefore they feel like there's nothing to maintain here.

01:54:55.000 I think we also have a very divided community because of the 24-hour news cycle.

01:55:01.000 And, you know, they're all for-profit corporations.

01:55:03.000 They don't care about getting the truth out or reporting on things that matter.

01:55:08.000 They care about their bottom line, providing entertainment. 0.81

01:55:11.000 That's all they are, are entertainment corporations.

01:55:14.000 And as a result, there's been a lot more acrimony and a lot more division within the community because the media is always posting headlines that they think are going to get clicks because all they care about is profit and not the truth and not about us coming together.

01:55:29.000 And so again, I think it's just a complete abdication of their job that the media is sowing seeds of acrimony among all of us in the community.

01:55:38.000 And instead of coming together, we're hating each other.

01:55:41.000 And I think that is a direct outgrowth of what the media does and what they choose to report on and how they choose to report on issues.

01:55:48.000 They've really just divided us as a culture and as a community.

01:55:51.000 And I think it's kind of shameful.

01:55:56.000 Ravens Gray says, has anyone done a facial recognition survey of the various Harris appearances, specifically the people attending these events?

01:56:04.000 It would be interesting to see how many repeat faces are in the crowd when she speaks in quote public.

01:56:10.000 Do you think that there's just an entourage that the Harris campaign is keeping with them at all times to fill up stadiums?

01:56:16.000 I mean, the logistics behind busing in, I mean, how many people to the event?

01:56:20.000 Probably not. Yeah.

01:56:23.000 But they do bring out musicians who play.

01:56:25.000 It's free concerts, right? What was her?

01:56:27.000 Was it in Pennsylvania she went to?

01:56:29.000 Megan Thee Stallion, was it, I think?

01:56:31.000 That was very uplifting for women when Megan Thee Stallion sang.

01:56:35.000 As a woman, I found it very empowering.

01:56:37.000 As a woman, I definitely did not.

01:56:39.000 But, you know, I'm not a Megan Thee Stallion fan, I will be honest.

01:56:42.000 And I think it was the beginning of this.

01:56:45.000 We need pop culture stars, specifically female pop culture stars, to win us this election. 1.00

01:56:51.000 I think that's not a good strategy, and I also think it's a misunderstanding of what women and young voters want. 0.96

01:57:00.000 Megan Thee Stallion's not going to help anyone make a down payment on their home, as far as I know. 0.62

01:57:05.000 Let's see. Ma Nipples says, January 6th is just a bad theater play.

01:57:12.000 Is it a play now?

01:57:14.000 Or I heard it was a movie. It is a movie.

01:57:16.000 Babylon Bee is releasing it, I want to say, next week on the 11th.

01:57:20.000 So they did a mockumentary for January 6th.

01:57:24.000 Actually, I got to fly out to California to play a part in it, so it's lots of fun.

01:57:28.000 I know, I want to see this.

01:57:29.000 In order to see it, you have to become a member at their website, Babylon Bee.

01:57:33.000 I think there are plans at some point to let it go mainstream, but for now, next week on the 11th, you can watch the movie.

01:57:40.000 I love their Instagram.

01:57:42.000 Their social media is absolutely amazing.

01:57:44.000 They're pretty spot on. They're also really good people.

01:57:46.000 Like I was out in their studio and every single one of them, they're such genuine people.

01:57:50.000 They just want to laugh. They want to get back to a time where we could look at politics, laugh at it and move on.

01:57:56.000 What a time! I feel like now it's just everyone's identity and thoughts at all times.

01:58:00.000 I think there is political exhaustion.

01:58:02.000 People are sort of like, let's get this over with because I would like to have other interests outside politics.

01:58:09.000 Yeah. It can be kind of draining, especially after almost a decade of Trump is the worst person ever, and you must do anything to not elect him.

01:58:17.000 Steve Petigilio, I think is how you say this name?

01:58:20.000 If Kamala invokes the 25th, can she still serve two terms? 1.00

01:58:25.000 Yeah, because she... 1.00

01:58:27.000 I'm pretty sure that because there's only a couple months left, like now is a month left or whatever, I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't count.

01:58:35.000 I mean, it's through January, right?

01:58:37.000 It's like three months left?

01:58:39.000 I know we all feel like the election is when it's over, but he will hang out in the White House like a nice ghost for a while.

01:58:44.000 Or just start World War III and suspend elections.

01:58:47.000 Lots of plays.

01:58:49.000 I do think that if she only has a few months, I think that it's something like two years.

01:58:57.000 There's a cutoff point. I think I could be wrong, but I don't think that having a few months would count against her being able to run for two terms. 0.95

01:59:07.000 This is Addie's World.

01:59:09.000 They say, Welcome back, Phil.

01:59:11.000 I have missed you. You did a wonderful job on coming home with the celebration emojis.

01:59:16.000 Thank you. Yeah, how was coming home, guys?

01:59:20.000 I feel like we just hit the end of the charting week.

01:59:22.000 I mean, look, it's kind of hard to explain, but yesterday when we finished the week stronger than we started it, that doesn't happen every day.

01:59:31.000 So thanks again to everyone who bought it.

01:59:33.000 Especially if you bought it on iTunes, there's a method to this madness.

01:59:36.000 I know it's really difficult, but I appreciate it and it will pay off.

01:59:40.000 Well, that's awesome.

01:59:42.000 I don't think people always can see how hard everyone is working, especially you and Ken.

01:59:48.000 You guys do a lot to make the music high quality and something people enjoy watching.

01:59:52.000 So I think you guys both deserve a lot of credit for that.

01:59:55.000 And with that...

01:59:57.000 Sadly, the second ever full-time Brimcast comes to the end.

02:00:01.000 It's been so fun having all of you guys here.

02:00:04.000 I know you missed him.

02:00:06.000 He's alive and well.

02:00:08.000 He's on a secret mission. I can't say where.

02:00:10.000 Probably it's in Pennsylvania. I can't say what he's doing.

02:00:12.000 But check out his social media.

02:00:14.000 You can See what's going on there.

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02:00:42.000 Again, thanks for everything you do.

02:00:43.000 Josh, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:45.000 Sure. You can find me on Instagram at joshciderofficial.

02:00:48.000 I'm a trans advocate and educator, and I make educational videos, short videos on my Instagram.

02:00:55.000 What are you, my lectern guy?

02:00:57.000 I'm exclusively on Twitter at lecternleader.

02:01:00.000 I want to say hi to the wife. 0.89

02:01:01.000 Hey, baby. Be home soon.

02:01:03.000 That's so nice.

02:01:05.000 Cool. Oh, Carter Banks here again.

02:01:07.000 Thanks everyone who bought Coming Home.

02:01:10.000 Shout out to Stephen Lee Rachel for writing something.

02:01:13.000 I just posted that on my Twitter at Carter Banks.

02:01:15.000 But yeah, good to have Phil back.

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