Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Elon & Trump Threaten To NUKE GOP Reps Who Support CORRUPT Spending Bill w-Ron Coleman | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 With the government shutdown looming, as it always does around the exact same time, and then Congress says, oh, no, we don't have any time to actually do our jobs,

00:00:28.000 So we're going to have to leave for Christmas and just put forward a continuing resolution.

00:00:32.000 Well, that's happening now. 0.97

00:00:33.000 Trump and Elon Musk have basically said they will primary any Republican who supports this bill, voting yes, because it is full of pork and bloat and garbage.

00:00:42.000 But I gotta say, one of my favorite, favorite pieces of this that's gone viral Is that they're going to eliminate the word offender in legal proceedings and change it to justice-involved person. 0.99

00:00:54.000 Because you're a justice-involved person when you punch an old lady in the face on a train and threaten to kill them. 0.85

00:00:59.000 Right.

00:00:59.000 That's what they're focused on, but there's also $60 billion for Ukraine.

00:01:02.000 And just in general, there's a massive, massive amount of random garbage that makes no sense.

00:01:08.000 Some criticism is that there seems to be a provision that would actually protect the House from investigations.

00:01:13.000 So if Kash Patel or Pam Bondi wanted to, say, subpoena some House data into the J6 subcommittee issues, they would be blocked by this in this continuing resolution, though it would only be temporary.

00:01:24.000 Still, so it may be DOA with Trump basically saying he is going to primary any Republican who supports it.

00:01:32.000 It seems like X has had a tremendous amount of pressure on Trump's choices.

00:01:32.000 That's massive.

00:01:38.000 It's resulted in him firing people before he even got hired.

00:01:41.000 It's been actually pretty incredible.

00:01:43.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:44.000 And I almost thought we should lead with the other story.

00:01:47.000 That is, California's declared a state of emergency over 34 cases of bird flu.

00:01:54.000 Maybe the real conspiracy is that they're going to jam up Trump's second term by, I don't know, lockdown or something.

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00:03:07.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Ron Coleman.

00:03:10.000 Hey.

00:03:12.000 Who are you?

00:03:13.000 Jewish.

00:03:14.000 Ha ha! 0.86

00:03:14.000 What are you? 0.86

00:03:16.000 Let's just get right to it, though.

00:03:17.000 Let's not kid ourselves.

00:03:18.000 I mean, the entire chat is obsessed with the Hebraic nature of tonight's program.

00:03:25.000 Here I am.

00:03:27.000 Ron's just here to sign my checks.

00:03:29.000 Since when are you taking checks?

00:03:31.000 I thought I saw him pulling a big bag of gold as he was walking up the stairs.

00:03:37.000 He called him shekels.

00:03:38.000 A big bag of shekels.

00:03:39.000 He called him shekels.

00:03:43.000 When I saw the team was tweeting that Israeli flag today, and he's a bigger Zionist than I am.

00:03:50.000 I wake up in the morning with a bunch of people posting pictures of me with like a yarmulke on.

00:03:53.000 That was a good...

00:03:54.000 That was a really...

00:03:55.000 My heart melted when I saw that.

00:03:57.000 I wanted to adopt you.

00:03:58.000 The picture of me with the yarmulke on?

00:04:00.000 The yarmulke on the face?

00:04:01.000 Yeah.

00:04:02.000 You look so adorable.

00:04:04.000 So I posted...

00:04:05.000 I woke up and I'm like...

00:04:05.000 I just...

00:04:06.000 I just tweeted the Israeli flag.

00:04:08.000 I thought it was funny.

00:04:08.000 And then I realized it generated a lot of attention.

00:04:11.000 And I'm like, that's what gets you paid on X. So maybe those people who are mad about it will make some money for me.

00:04:16.000 But Ron's a lawyer and commentator and he's here.

00:04:19.000 I'm here, Ron Coleman, the lawyer, commentator, podcaster.

00:04:22.000 Ron Coleman.

00:04:23.000 Coleman Nation is the name of my podcast, and I'm really happy to be here.

00:04:27.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:04:27.000 We have another Jew here.

00:04:28.000 What's up?

00:04:29.000 We're doubling down on Jews for tonight, so I know some people out there are keeping count. 0.87

00:04:34.000 Add a couple more ticks to that one. 0.90

00:04:35.000 My name's Alad Eliyahu.

00:04:37.000 I'm a fields reporter and Jewish affairs correspondent.

00:04:39.000 A little bit redundant at this point.

00:04:41.000 What's up, Phil?

00:04:41.000 Hello, everybody.

00:04:42.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:04:43.000 I am Goyim.

00:04:45.000 I am the lead singer of y'all.

00:04:47.000 I'm a Goy.

00:04:48.000 I'm a Goy.

00:04:49.000 Not I am Goy.

00:04:50.000 I am a Goy.

00:04:51.000 I have a split personality.

00:04:52.000 And I am an anti-communist.

00:04:54.000 Oh, that's plural.

00:04:55.000 Oh, we'll see.

00:04:55.000 No.

00:04:55.000 Is that what it is?

00:04:56.000 Well, you'll learn something.

00:04:57.000 One Goy. 0.90

00:04:58.000 Goy.

00:04:59.000 You are Goyish. 1.00

00:05:01.000 Oh, that's going to turn into a meme.

00:05:02.000 They're going to make that a good meme.

00:05:04.000 We get so Jewish so quickly.

00:05:05.000 Tonight's going to be a great show, man.

00:05:07.000 I do think it's perfect timing considering all the memes that both of you are here.

00:05:09.000 I mean, Elad's usually here, but having Ron here is going to be great.

00:05:12.000 So let's jump into the news.

00:05:13.000 We got this one from...

00:05:15.000 Oh, that's the wrong one.

00:05:16.000 Whoops.

00:05:17.000 From CNBC, Trump joins Elon Musk in opposing House GOP's government funding bill.

00:05:23.000 President-elect Donald Trump opposes a government funding bill backed by Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson.

00:05:28.000 Trump's stance aligns Elon Musk, who railed against the proposed continuing resolution.

00:05:33.000 We actually have a statement from Donald Trump right here on Truth Social.

00:05:36.000 He said, If Republicans try to pass a clean, continuing resolution without all of the Democrat bells and whistles that will be so destructive to our country, all it will do after January 20th is bring the mess of the debt limit into the Trump administration rather than allowing it to take place in the Biden administration. 0.98

00:05:52.000 Any Republican that would be so stupid as to do this should and will be primaried.

00:05:57.000 Everything should be done and fully negotiated prior to my taking office on January 20th, 2025. Elon Musk, of course, said something similar. 1.00

00:06:04.000 Anyone who votes for the spending deal should lose their reelection.

00:06:08.000 Yeah, I mean, let's take a look at some of what's in here.

00:06:08.000 I love it.

00:06:12.000 We've got libs of TikTok.

00:06:13.000 The new congressional resolution includes funding for at least 12 new bio labs.

00:06:16.000 So that's something nobody wants, especially considering 2020. We've got this one from Manny Johnson.

00:06:22.000 The woke continuing resolution bill mentions changing the term offender to justice-involved individual.

00:06:27.000 Oh, I like that.

00:06:28.000 It says Section 338 of the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act is amended in the heading by striking offender and inserting justice-involved individual.

00:06:38.000 And in the matter preceding subparagraph...

00:06:40.000 The irony being that that's a person who is actually conducting himself in an unjust way.

00:06:47.000 That's the least...

00:06:48.000 It's the rest of us who follow the law are the justice-involved individuals.

00:06:53.000 It's the criminals who are the non-justice-involved individuals.

00:06:57.000 This is my favorite one, though.

00:07:00.000 Justice-involved individual.

00:07:01.000 It's like the George Carlin bit, where he's like, we keep making words into phrases, making them longer and longer because we're trying not to offend people, and all we're doing is making it more confusing.

00:07:11.000 Well, I think this is based, and I think the bigger picture here is that Trump has made several moves that have been not so good.

00:07:18.000 Chad Chronister, he was the sheriff who arrested a pastor during lockdown because he was trying to host services, and Trump overtly said, he said, I pushed him out because I didn't like what he had done.

00:07:29.000 So here we are now.

00:07:30.000 This is a continuing resolution coming through.

00:07:32.000 It is amazing to have Trump back in the seat of power.

00:07:35.000 He's not there just yet.

00:07:37.000 But when you had the midterms with Matt Gaetz and he was fighting Kevin McCarthy and he was saying, we want single issue spending bills, they basically said, screw you.

00:07:43.000 We're not going to let you do it.

00:07:45.000 And it was a war.

00:07:45.000 Now that Trump is back in the kitchen, all of these people are starting to fall in line knowing this will be the end of their career if they defy not just Trump, but basically the richest guy in the world and the popular mandate.

00:07:59.000 It's amazing.

00:08:00.000 It's amazing.

00:08:01.000 And people are pretending to be really offended by it.

00:08:05.000 But in fact, all it is is a transparent version of what always happens, and certainly happens in the Democratic Party.

00:08:15.000 The Democrats have party discipline.

00:08:17.000 How do you enforce party discipline?

00:08:23.000 Shekels! 0.98

00:08:25.000 Money.

00:08:26.000 The donors...

00:08:27.000 Musk is doing it publicly.

00:08:31.000 Do you guys feel like this is a positive or a negative?

00:08:34.000 It's my sense that this is what happens regardless of whether or not the public knows about it.

00:08:42.000 And the fact that Musk is putting this stuff on X for anyone that wants to go ahead and look and comment and have an opinion about, it's open for discussion.

00:08:56.000 I feel like this is a good thing.

00:08:59.000 And so I don't know, aside from people being like, well, you know, he wasn't elected, which fair enough, he wasn't, but he's just doing the same kind of activism that anyone else could do.

00:09:08.000 It's just that because he's Elon Musk, he gets a lot of attention.

00:09:11.000 If Tim does the same thing, he'll get a certain level of response and he'll be able to generate a certain amount of political activity just by saying, we need to oppose this, blah, blah, blah.

00:09:20.000 Why would it be wrong that Musk does it?

00:09:22.000 And so what are your thoughts on I think Elon Musk's bully pulpit is a little bit more potent than Tim's because he's the CEO of Twitter.

00:09:30.000 Not only that, his threats mean a lot more than a threat from Tim Pool.

00:09:35.000 Tim Pool says, oh, I'm going to support a primary child.

00:09:37.000 Forget that I mentioned Tim, then.

00:09:38.000 It's not about Tim.

00:09:40.000 I'm talking about...

00:09:40.000 Look what you did to him!

00:09:41.000 Look what you did to Tim!

00:09:44.000 No, it's just that if Elon Musk wanted to, he could comfortably fund a primary challenger.

00:09:50.000 Do you think it's a good or a bad thing?

00:09:51.000 That's the heart of my question.

00:09:52.000 When he's on my side, I think it's a good thing.

00:09:54.000 When he's not, I don't.

00:09:56.000 I don't know.

00:09:56.000 Is that too nakedly partisan?

00:09:58.000 Well, it's pragmatism.

00:09:59.000 Ron, what do you think?

00:10:02.000 I think it's exactly what you guys said.

00:10:06.000 I do think that it makes a difference.

00:10:10.000 I'll say this much.

00:10:11.000 It does make a difference that it is now publicly—again, I think the transparent aspect of it is a plus for American politics.

00:10:20.000 It's a plus for my democracy.

00:10:23.000 And it also draws on...

00:10:27.000 You know, what are the two big disadvantages, conservatives and Republicans, and to the extent that that Venn diagram has a very large intersection and great, have had in messaging and in political pressure? have had in messaging and in political pressure?

00:10:46.000 It has been the fact that the organs of information have been in the hands of adversaries.

00:10:55.000 Now you have someone who is pretty conservative, who is utilizing the crowdsource nature, the really—I don't want to overstate the case because we were talking about— The mysteries of monetization on X before we went on.

00:11:20.000 It's not quite a truly democratic, but it's as democratic and meritocratic as any source of news and information in world history.

00:11:33.000 Period.

00:11:35.000 I think it also relates to money in politics.

00:11:38.000 Maybe, Rod, you could tell us a little bit more about how you think that plays into this.

00:11:42.000 I forgot the important case that precluded a lot of...

00:11:47.000 Well, when I first attended the Lincoln-Douglas debate, okay, I can tell you...

00:11:53.000 Citizens United, that's what I was trying to reference.

00:11:55.000 Okay, that's what you're referring to.

00:11:56.000 I thought you were talking about my childhood shortly before the Civil War.

00:12:04.000 I had to prompt them, okay, about the Lincoln-Douglas debate.

00:12:08.000 That's the level of sophistication in this room, folks.

00:12:13.000 Citizens United, well, look, Citizens United, how is it that you think that this affects...

00:12:21.000 No, because I guess the threat is downstream.

00:12:23.000 He's threatening to primary and would support them with his own money.

00:12:29.000 It has always been the case that money is extremely powerful and influential in politics.

00:12:38.000 When people talk about Citizens United, they get so wrapped up in whether or not it's fair and stuff.

00:12:44.000 And I can't help but think about the fact that Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton when she spent a billion dollars.

00:12:50.000 Barack Obama spent a billion dollars and his party is ostensibly opposed to Citizens United.

00:12:56.000 You know, Donald Trump beat...

00:12:59.000 Kamala Harris when she spent a billion dollars.

00:13:01.000 So as much as people like to go ahead and make hay about the fact that there's money in politics, it doesn't directly translate to victories.

00:13:12.000 It does not, no matter what anyone says.

00:13:14.000 And when you see that the massive amounts of money, Donald Trump has spent like three to one.

00:13:20.000 So keep in mind, though, you're talking about presidential elections.

00:13:24.000 And people who are nationally famous...

00:13:27.000 Like, Donald Trump is famous...

00:13:28.000 Well, of course, keep in mind, he's famous for being wealthy.

00:13:32.000 He's famous for being wealthy.

00:13:33.000 So, can't say money, not a thing.

00:13:37.000 At the congressional level...

00:13:39.000 All members of Congress do is raise money.

00:13:42.000 That's their entire political existence.

00:13:45.000 And if one person can step into a district and write a 7-8 figure check, or one pack, that someone who wasn't part of the political ecosystem in that district yesterday, that's a massive game changer.

00:14:02.000 Yes.

00:14:03.000 I don't disagree.

00:14:04.000 I just don't think that money is a one-to-one correlation.

00:14:08.000 That's right.

00:14:09.000 And yet, it's scary enough.

00:14:11.000 You're 100% right.

00:14:12.000 It's not.

00:14:13.000 Incumbency is incredibly powerful.

00:14:16.000 And yet, it scares these guys enough just the prospect of having that influx of money.

00:14:27.000 But not only that, going back to my earlier point, not just the money, but...

00:14:35.000 Elon Musk and influencers who are not as big as Elon Musk, but who are big.

00:14:42.000 People like Jack Posobiec, okay?

00:14:47.000 They can...

00:14:50.000 We put together a true public reaction to a political moment in a very short time.

00:14:58.000 And by the way, one of the fascinating things that happened with this bill was that they tried the old midnight spring it on them and everyone just started dumping it into AI processors and boom!

00:15:10.000 All of a sudden...

00:15:12.000 This tool, which we all agree is going to destroy our lives and our personalities and our careers, is helping save the republic a little bit because we're able to get this information from this encyclopedia-sized bill.

00:15:30.000 Cool stuff's happening.

00:15:31.000 What do you guys think about Elon Musk specifically whipping for this funding bill?

00:15:36.000 He's getting into the weeds.

00:15:38.000 I don't know.

00:15:39.000 Do you guys think this is below him?

00:15:40.000 Do you think he's getting a little bit too involved?

00:15:41.000 No.

00:15:42.000 Yeah, fantastic.

00:15:44.000 Also, this bill, when we learned what was in this bill, there's stuff in there that was designed to absolutely hamstring Trump from go.

00:15:58.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:15:59.000 Absolutely.

00:16:00.000 They wanted to build a new stadium for the Washington football team, the commanders, in a continuing resolution.

00:16:13.000 Like, that is unconscionable.

00:16:15.000 That's the money stuff, and the money stuff is a disaster, and we've got a big problem with the money stuff.

00:16:15.000 That's bad enough.

00:16:19.000 Yes.

00:16:21.000 They were going to make it impossible to get the data from the January 6th committee.

00:16:29.000 Yes, 100%.

00:16:30.000 I mean, all kinds of really subversive stuff.

00:16:33.000 And by the way, the agencies are already doing this themselves.

00:16:36.000 I mean, there's going to be so much unrolling that Trump is going to have to do in January, giving us perhaps reason to take another look at the lame duck period for the presidency, because, again, so much that historically depended on On a certain amount of trust and statesmanship and an understanding that there's a change of government and now it's appropriate for the next president or the next House or the next Senate to be the ones to make decisions

00:17:07.000 A, B, and C. That's out.

00:17:09.000 It's full-scale trench warfare on every single issue, unless you're Mike Johnson.

00:17:16.000 I wonder if he's going to last as Speaker, because I saw the other Republicans were standing down.

00:17:24.000 I forgot who it was specifically, but a couple of reps who were upset with him in the past, Marjorie Taylor Greene in particular.

00:17:29.000 I think we're standing down.

00:17:30.000 I don't know if there is a different consensus pick as Speaker, given how slim the majorities are in the House.

00:17:37.000 If he puts this to a floor vote, if he allows this, he's going to have not just the president against him.

00:17:44.000 The richest man in the world and basically the entire popular movement.

00:17:48.000 Yeah.

00:17:49.000 His only option right now is going to be he can maybe wishy-washy say, look, I don't want to, but I think it should go to a vote and we should see how people decide.

00:17:57.000 And then it gets quashed.

00:17:58.000 Maybe he can weasel it out that way.

00:18:00.000 I wonder what the sticking points are here, because otherwise this is just a game of chicken until...

00:18:04.000 $60 billion, I think, for Ukraine, right?

00:18:06.000 Yeah, there's so much stuff in it.

00:18:08.000 As an omnibus bill, there's so much stuff in it.

00:18:10.000 And just to Ron's point, it is really, really, really cool that nowadays they can stuff this thing into AI, and the AI can read it and say, these are the things...

00:18:21.000 This thing was probably made by AI. But the point is, you can tell an AI, hey, look for these type of things, and AI can say, okay, here, these are the things that you're going to have a problem with.

00:18:36.000 And the fact that they can do that in, you know, I don't know how long it took to get it, but I figure maybe an hour.

00:18:41.000 When they toss you the bill and say, we have to vote on this in the morning.

00:18:45.000 And, you know, some intern can go ahead and pop it and, you know, scan it into an AI.

00:18:51.000 And then the AI can say, oh, hey, these are the things that you're going to have specific to the office, actually.

00:18:58.000 You can tell it which congressman or congressperson that says, these are the things that I'm concerned with.

00:19:03.000 And then the AI can say, these are the things that you're going to have a problem with in this bill.

00:19:06.000 And then they can say, wait a minute, these things are just beyond the pale.

00:19:10.000 That's really, really, really valuable, not just to individual congresspeople, but to the American people, like to the population, because they can then have the opportunity to put things onto X, just like Musk did, and say, hey, we've got a massive problem with this particular bill.

00:19:27.000 And it's going to make it so that way...

00:19:30.000 Omnibus bills are less likely to be passed and hopefully that will mean that they'll stop trying to do omnibus bills.

00:19:37.000 Cernovich made a great point earlier today.

00:19:38.000 He said this trope that so-called government shutdowns always hurt Republicans.

00:19:50.000 He said that's 2012 thinking.

00:19:54.000 We're not there anymore.

00:19:56.000 First of all, if that's the lumps we have to take, then let's take it.

00:19:58.000 The election just ended.

00:20:01.000 We've got two years for the public to forget about the government shutdown that was a month after the election.

00:20:08.000 We can handle that.

00:20:12.000 Meanwhile, we have ways of getting out messages, which is how this topic started out, that we didn't have when the whole world was still relying on what did the Times say and what did Dan Rather say.

00:20:23.000 Those days are over.

00:20:24.000 I wonder what this particular issue right now would be like if Musk hadn't bought...

00:20:33.000 We didn't have people like Vivek and like Musk setting the alarm and saying, hey, these are big problems.

00:20:41.000 Because if I understand correctly, it looks like this CR is not going to pass.

00:20:46.000 And a large part of that, a large part of the credit, is going to go to Musk and Ramoswamy.

00:20:51.000 Trump made the point, and he's correct. 0.92

00:20:54.000 All they're going to do is kick the can down the road into his administration and then blame him for all the problems.

00:20:59.000 So that's why I think he's making this threat.

00:21:01.000 That's why I agree with Elon being involved.

00:21:03.000 He's telling him right now, you need to negotiate this, get it done.

00:21:05.000 And then when I come in, then I can start with a clean slate.

00:21:08.000 We can figure this thing out.

00:21:09.000 But right now, all they're doing is basically saying the Biden administration is a disaster.

00:21:13.000 Congress is a disaster. 0.99

00:21:15.000 Let's just do what we always do and just continue resolution with a whole bunch of weird nonsense garbage. 1.00

00:21:19.000 The crazy thing to me is... 0.96

00:21:21.000 I don't understand why they don't put crazier things in it.

00:21:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:24.000 We might just not have found them yet.

00:21:26.000 There should be provisions like, Mike Johnson gets $1 million from the public treasury or whatever.

00:21:31.000 Just do it!

00:21:32.000 Just roll with it!

00:21:32.000 Because they're going to pass it anyway, right?

00:21:33.000 A Twitter user named Oilfield Rando tweeted, Bad news, guys.

00:21:37.000 All those AOC, Boebert, sexy AI images we've been enjoying, CR makes them illegal.

00:21:42.000 You can go to jail for two years for those.

00:21:44.000 Wait, is that for real?

00:21:45.000 That's what he says.

00:21:46.000 Is CR going to ban sexy AOC images?

00:21:48.000 Yeah, I'll put it in the Slack.

00:21:50.000 There's actually...

00:21:52.000 That's like the bill that Ted Frank got overturned in California.

00:21:55.000 The AI, you know, the AI political ads.

00:21:58.000 Yeah.

00:21:59.000 It'll be illegal for her to post selfies moving forward. 1.00

00:22:01.000 Even a California court was able to figure out that that...

00:22:03.000 It's in the Slack and the actual wording, the actual language is there too, Tim.

00:22:07.000 Where did you post it?

00:22:08.000 I posted it in the Slack.

00:22:09.000 Oh, there it is.

00:22:11.000 Every CR has a bunch of junk included, half of which is probably never looked at a second time.

00:22:16.000 This is big news, guys.

00:22:18.000 This directly impacts Elad, so let's read this from X. We have this from Oilfield Rando about the continuing resolution.

00:22:25.000 Bad news, guys.

00:22:26.000 All those AOC, Bobert, sexy AI images we've been enjoying, the continuing resolution makes them illegal.

00:22:32.000 You can go to jail for two years for those.

00:22:34.000 Thanks, GOP. The Take It Down Act.

00:22:36.000 Is this actually in the continuing resolution?

00:22:39.000 Can you pull up the actual document and see if we can source this to make sure this is correct?

00:22:42.000 Non-consensual, intimate visual depictions.

00:22:44.000 Ron, do they have a case against me or not?

00:22:47.000 Okay, it says, this title may be cited as the Tools to Address Known Exploitation by Immobilizing Technological Deepfakes on Websites and Networks Act, or the Take It Down Act.

00:22:56.000 Take it down! 1.00

00:22:57.000 It says, the Section 1002 Criminal Prohibition on Intentional Disclosure of Non-Consensual Intimate Visual Depictions.

00:23:04.000 In general, Section 223 of the Communications Act of 1934 is amended.

00:23:09.000 By redesigning subsection H and subsection I, inserting after G and following blah blah blah, intentional disclosure of non-consensual intimate visual depictions.

00:23:19.000 I mean, I gotta be honest.

00:23:21.000 In all seriousness, I think it's kind of cringe that people are doing this, but the idea that you can't draw a picture of somebody and share it, that they'd make that illegal, is kind of an absurdity.

00:23:31.000 For argument's sake, they didn't specifically write AOC and Boebert, right?

00:23:35.000 I think this is generally trying to...

00:23:36.000 Yeah, he was pointing This is generally trying to avoid, I think, I've heard news stories of young people using faces of their classmates and putting them onto naked bodies of other people.

00:23:47.000 And I think the idea here is to prevent stuff like that, like leaking fake nudes of your classmates or fake porn of people, I think is what they're trying to avoid in this.

00:23:58.000 And moving forward, I don't think this is going to be the worst thing in the CR. I don't know how they're going to police this.

00:24:03.000 It's unconstitutional.

00:24:03.000 There are issues with...

00:24:05.000 AI that we should be trying to be aware of.

00:24:09.000 This is essentially trying to work on containing misleading AI images.

00:24:15.000 It certainly doesn't belong in a continuing resolution.

00:24:18.000 That's our real point.

00:24:20.000 If you want to take the position that a reasonable person...

00:24:29.000 Could conclude that there are issues that ought to be addressed, or societal issues that ought to be addressed, and perhaps it's possible to do so in a way that survives First Amendment scrutiny.

00:24:45.000 Unlikely, but let's say that it were.

00:24:48.000 Then you debate it.

00:24:52.000 You take votes on it.

00:24:53.000 You don't shove it into the...

00:24:55.000 We're going to shut down the federal parks, which is the only thing, frankly, that gets shut down.

00:25:01.000 These continue...

00:25:03.000 They never shut down the FBI. Yeah, right.

00:25:05.000 These omnibus bills...

00:25:07.000 They should find a way to outlaw them.

00:25:10.000 You should have to vote on every law that is passed.

00:25:15.000 That is what Congress exists for.

00:25:18.000 So the idea that they don't vote on every single law that they want to pass, that they just shove them into one thing and say, we have to pass this to spend money, it's absolutely...

00:25:30.000 It is disgusting and it makes Congress pointless.

00:25:34.000 And it leaves the people with no recourse, no way to actually punish their senators or their congressperson when they do something bad.

00:25:44.000 And then they try to hold the American economy hostage by threatening a shutdown and the consequences to follow.

00:25:50.000 I kind of hate this because it's kind of fake drama.

00:25:52.000 They will pass one of these CRs.

00:25:55.000 Both sides just need to posture right now.

00:25:58.000 Unfortunately, this is how our Congress operates.

00:26:01.000 So this is the process for them.

00:26:04.000 I'm trying to find the full document, but it's very difficult.

00:26:06.000 Yeah, I mean, once you find it.

00:26:08.000 Okay, I think I found it.

00:26:09.000 Good luck finding the part that you're looking for.

00:26:10.000 H304. Yep.

00:26:13.000 Okay, confirmed.

00:26:14.000 I just wanted to make sure I'm just not reading some random stuff on X. You can trust Oilfield Randolph.

00:26:20.000 On X. Yes.

00:26:21.000 So it's right here.

00:26:22.000 Criminal Prohibition and the Intentional Disclosure of Non-Consensual Intimate Depictions.

00:26:26.000 It says, consent, the term means affirmative, conscious, and voluntary authorization made by an individual.

00:26:32.000 Digital Forgery, the term digital forgery means any intimate visual depiction of an identifiable individual created through the use of software, machine learning, artificial intelligence, or any other computer-generated technological means.

00:26:42.000 That means using Photoshop.

00:26:42.000 Fake nudes.

00:26:44.000 Yeah.

00:26:45.000 That's going to mean doing any kind of digital work to create an image of somebody.

00:26:48.000 Well, and posting it online.

00:26:49.000 That's pretty crazy.

00:26:51.000 I mean, look, again, it's kind of cringe that people do, but outlaw...

00:26:57.000 I mean, everyone in Hollywood does that, but that's with consent.

00:27:00.000 Yeah.

00:27:01.000 They're doing it for themselves.

00:27:03.000 Identifiable individual is defined, interactive computer service, intimate visual depiction.

00:27:08.000 Has the meaning, given such term in Section 1309 of the Consolidated Appropriations Act...

00:27:13.000 Oh, well, the Consolidated Appropriations Act...

00:27:15.000 The minor portion of it I completely agree with.

00:27:18.000 Right?

00:27:18.000 If they're saying, like, you can't make images of children using digital software, like, of course.

00:27:23.000 I think it's trying to prevent convincible fake AI porn of people.

00:27:27.000 I agree.

00:27:27.000 If someone were to make a fake porn image of you, this is how they try to battle it.

00:27:32.000 Obviously, this is an issue that...

00:27:34.000 I've learned to live with it.

00:27:35.000 Why can't everyone else?

00:27:36.000 Well, now if you have real nudes, you could be like, no, no, no.

00:27:39.000 Actually, that was AI. So we could kind of get to the singularity of nudes.

00:27:43.000 They do actually assume that it's AI. Yeah, they say there's a portion about minors.

00:27:43.000 People don't believe the real ones.

00:27:49.000 Literally everybody should agree with that, except for anyone on Blue Sky.

00:27:52.000 They're all probably saying, no, help us.

00:27:53.000 But that's fine.

00:27:54.000 The involving adults gets kind of weird.

00:27:57.000 You know, look, morally, I agree, like, people should not be doing this.

00:28:02.000 But this could be so broad as to be like, you can't use Photoshop to make an image of somebody.

00:28:07.000 I guess it's a lot harder to do on Photoshop, though not impossible, as opposed to plugging it into one of these AI image generators.

00:28:17.000 So you go through your yearbook and...

00:28:19.000 I'm sorry, this is kind of crazy.

00:28:20.000 Look, it says, except if provided in subparagraph C, it shall be unlawful for any person in interstate or foreign commerce to use an interactive computer service to knowingly publish a digital forgery of an identifiable individual who is not a minor if...

00:28:32.000 One, the digital forgery was published without the consent of the identifiable individual.

00:28:36.000 Two, what is depicted was not voluntarily exposed by the identifiable individual in a public or commercial setting.

00:28:42.000 Three, what is depicted is not a matter of public concern.

00:28:44.000 Four, publication of the digital forgery is intended to cause harm or causes harm, including psychological, financial, or reputational harm to the identifiable individual. 0.98

00:28:53.000 What garbage. 0.94

00:28:53.000 Ron, do I have the First Amendment right to post fake nudes of people? 0.94

00:28:57.000 Do you have the First Amendment right to post fake nudes of people?

00:29:03.000 Uh, uh, uh...

00:29:06.000 In other words, without even coming onto the use of AI, could you do it?

00:29:14.000 That person probably actually could sue you in California and succeed.

00:29:18.000 And in other states with a strong writer personality.

00:29:23.000 I would say you don't necessarily have that right.

00:29:26.000 Yeah, I think that's what they're working on here.

00:29:28.000 I would never do something...

00:29:30.000 I mean, they're saying it will be a criminal offense?

00:29:35.000 But you have to, I mean...

00:29:37.000 It'll be unlawful.

00:29:38.000 So what are the results, what are the ramifications of that going to be?

00:29:40.000 Does it state?

00:29:42.000 I'm sure it does.

00:29:43.000 But I just want to point out, there are so many problems here.

00:29:49.000 What is depicted as not a matter of public concern.

00:29:53.000 So, you could argue that basically...

00:29:59.000 Any way, any form of, any politician who's depicted is almost per se a matter of public concern.

00:30:11.000 So to some extent, Oilfield Randall might be overshooting the mark here.

00:30:15.000 What is depicted was not voluntarily exposed.

00:30:20.000 What was number one, the first one?

00:30:23.000 Without consent.

00:30:24.000 So published is an extremely broad word.

00:30:27.000 Because it doesn't necessarily mean that it was put in a public forum on the internet.

00:30:34.000 It could just be sending an email.

00:30:36.000 It could just be sending a texter or WhatsApp.

00:30:40.000 As a meme, you could be sending it to your friend and it could be actionable.

00:30:43.000 Which, just like basically child porn, you know?

00:30:47.000 Although this doesn't refer to just having it. 0.91

00:30:51.000 Child porn, you can, you know, they can get you for just having it.

00:30:57.000 So, are we in agreement, like, morally we agree with it, but it shouldn't be a law?

00:31:03.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot.

00:31:05.000 You can't stop the technology.

00:31:07.000 I know.

00:31:09.000 I'm really, I feel like I'm becoming more conservative in these past few months.

00:31:14.000 And it's funny because people try to call me conservative.

00:31:15.000 I'm like, I'm basically not.

00:31:17.000 But the moral arguments of maintaining a sound and moral society are becoming more and more clear when you see how the left operates.

00:31:26.000 And you see things like this.

00:31:29.000 Okay.

00:31:29.000 It's a question of if we just say outright, like, look, man, live and let live do whatever you want.

00:31:37.000 You end up with AI-generated images of kids.

00:31:41.000 So clearly, we don't want that.

00:31:45.000 Obviously, abusing kids is an atrocity. 0.77

00:31:48.000 Now you've got people on the left arguing for just make them fake images.

00:31:52.000 That'll do it.

00:31:53.000 That's literally an argument they're making.

00:31:54.000 And we're like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:31:55.000 So we agree.

00:31:56.000 That's the line.

00:31:56.000 We're not going to let anybody do that.

00:31:58.000 Now they're saying you shouldn't be allowed to do it for adults either.

00:32:02.000 And there's a question of whether we allow it or not.

00:32:04.000 I think it's kind of crazy, but I'm starting to lean towards, do we have to ban things like this?

00:32:11.000 Now, typically I lean towards the, we need cultural solutions.

00:32:15.000 This is a cultural problem.

00:32:17.000 I love how Ron Paul said of abortion, it should not be illegal to be unthinkable.

00:32:21.000 And that's what we want to happen, but we're not there.

00:32:24.000 So when I look at this, I'm like, we as a society should not tolerate people making AI porn images of prominent female individuals for any reason.

00:32:36.000 But tolerate doesn't mean make illegal.

00:32:39.000 So the question is, how do we stop people from doing it if we're trying to be, well, we don't want to lock people up in jail for things like this.

00:32:47.000 It's a very, very difficult position, which ultimately I feel like I get more conservative.

00:32:51.000 I'm like, society must be moral because otherwise this degeneracy and degradation destroys society.

00:32:58.000 I think it's worth considering, too, whatever means or method is used to censor this will be used to censor other information that they can call manipulation.

00:33:08.000 But now go the other direction.

00:33:09.000 This is the problem.

00:33:10.000 It's not a slope.

00:33:13.000 We're on top of this peak.

00:33:15.000 And if we say, if we censor this, they will use it to censor other things we want to do.

00:33:20.000 And if we don't censor this, they will escalate the degeneracy in some disgusting direction.

00:33:20.000 Yeah.

00:33:25.000 So there is no point in this social map where we can stand still.

00:33:30.000 We're being pulled in every possible direction.

00:33:32.000 How do we maintain a position where we're like...

00:33:36.000 This is a good place to be.

00:33:37.000 We have free speech.

00:33:38.000 We can express our opinions.

00:33:39.000 But we don't tolerate this extreme...

00:33:41.000 I mean, look, to be honest, I could not imagine what some of these female celebrities must be thinking when they see these AI images of them going out. 0.76

00:33:51.000 It's horrible.

00:33:53.000 We don't want a society that does that.

00:33:55.000 But at the same time, we don't want to arrest people for making art and images.

00:33:59.000 How do we balance that?

00:34:00.000 It's not only that.

00:34:01.000 We don't want to arrest them.

00:34:03.000 We don't want that to be part of our civic life.

00:34:09.000 And there's also an aspect where the harder you squeeze, the more it leaks out.

00:34:18.000 In a time of information and data and visual...

00:34:25.000 You know, richness.

00:34:27.000 There's so many different ways information can be shared and broadcast and published.

00:34:34.000 It's almost impossible, even if you could roll back the extremely permissive definitions of the Supreme Court regarding pornography, the definition of obscenity.

00:34:46.000 Let me ask you guys a question.

00:34:48.000 Let's go back to, you know, 1940. And you live in a small town in the outskirts of Omaha.

00:35:00.000 Small town of about 300 people.

00:35:01.000 And your neighbor gets a photo of your wife doing something compromising and starts posting copies of them all over the town.

00:35:10.000 What do you think the husband does? 1.00

00:35:12.000 Shoots him.

00:35:13.000 Yeah. 0.78

00:35:13.000 Something pretty extreme like... 0.78

00:35:15.000 Goes to the guy posting it and probably physically confronts him.

00:35:18.000 I'm just thinking about, you know, I see people in the chat, they're saying the internet is for jokes, you can't ban jokes.

00:35:22.000 And I'm like, my first thought was, okay, well then, kids are not allowed on the internet.

00:35:27.000 And the internet is 18 up from now on.

00:35:29.000 If the idea is the internet can contain hardcore porn and snuff, kids aren't allowed.

00:35:35.000 Because the argument would then be that...

00:35:38.000 Imagine if a kid was walking down the street right now in your town and there was a business that put up hardcore porn on the windows.

00:35:46.000 Would anyone tolerate that?

00:35:47.000 Of course not.

00:35:49.000 But that's the internet.

00:35:50.000 I was on X earlier, and I was looking for a clip of that fat activist who got hired by San Francisco.

00:35:59.000 And so I typed in San Francisco body positivity.

00:36:02.000 Oh, good lord. 0.91

00:36:03.000 And a bunch of porn popped up!

00:36:05.000 And I was like, wow, that's pretty crazy.

00:36:07.000 Like, hardcore stuff on X. Why is that?

00:36:09.000 That should not happen.

00:36:11.000 Why?

00:36:11.000 Why would anyone tolerate children being on the internet?

00:36:14.000 The problem then becomes, even if you're an adult, imagine if you were walking down the town and walking in the street in your city and you saw that someone put your wife's face on nude women in hardcore porn and just plastered it all over the place.

00:36:30.000 The internet—there's a difference between the internet and real life, but the internet has become a central place of information sharing.

00:36:37.000 And so while we used to walk to the town center and go to church to communicate with our neighbors and our community— Now we go on the internet to do this, and the lanes of the internet are spattered with porn.

00:36:49.000 Imagine what someone's going to do when their wife is being put in these images. 1.00

00:36:54.000 Are we, as a society, just supposed to be like, well, that's the internet.

00:36:56.000 I guess we have no choice but to tolerate it?

00:36:58.000 It's really a problem.

00:37:00.000 As you point out, it's a social problem.

00:37:03.000 It's a moral and an ethical problem.

00:37:06.000 And you can't, unfortunately, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

00:37:13.000 From a legal point of view, or from a technological point of view.

00:37:18.000 So this ubiquity is really a challenge for the level of free speech.

00:37:28.000 I mean, I think you made a good right turn there, and you said, let's forget about the kids, because the kids' argument is kind of a little bit too easy.

00:37:37.000 Let's talk about the quality of life, the quality of social and intellectual and moral experience that people have going through the day, and so much of the days of so many of us.

00:37:50.000 Are spent on the internet.

00:37:52.000 Well, when I was growing up in New York in the 70s, Times Square, walking through Times Square was a disgusting experience because all those theaters that are now owned by Disney and that are now, you know, these beautiful...

00:38:09.000 You know, presentations had all been turned into, they used to be movie theaters, and they had all been turned into porn.

00:38:19.000 In those days, you had to go to a movie theater or to a peep show to consume pornography. 0.81

00:38:25.000 And Just the names on the marquees were disgusting.

00:38:31.000 And I was a teenager.

00:38:33.000 And I remember really thinking, I don't want to even – that's a degrading experience.

00:38:39.000 It's a degrading experience.

00:38:42.000 And so, you know, the civil libertarians have done us a disservice not only – By pushing the law in the direction that they did in the 60s, 50s and 60s, because you asked about 1940, that was sort of the beginning of the end of, you know, small-town America kind of, you know, morality.

00:39:06.000 But by changing, moving the Overton window and making so much of this to be acceptable in our discourse.

00:39:14.000 Remember a couple years ago, one of the big topics was kids attending drag shows?

00:39:20.000 Yeah.

00:39:22.000 All ages drag show.

00:39:24.000 Why on earth is there something called an all ages drag show? 0.90

00:39:27.000 Insane.

00:39:27.000 Why are you bringing your children or permitting your children to attend an all ages drag show?

00:39:33.000 And this this so we go back to 2008.

00:39:35.000 We go back to 2010 or whatever.

00:39:37.000 You had the Prop 8 in California gay marriage and Republicans have been gloating for some time because there was a meme made by liberals where it was like things that will happen if gay, you know, gay people get married.

00:39:47.000 And then it was a pie graph where it said, you know, terrorists will win.

00:39:52.000 And it said there will be a pandemic and a lockdown and things like this. 0.97

00:39:55.000 And the pie chart said gay people will get married. 0.97

00:39:57.000 The joke was nothing's going to happen.

00:39:59.000 And then these things happen.

00:40:00.000 So everyone started laughing.

00:40:01.000 The slippery slope argument being made by conservatives at the time was you open the door here.

00:40:05.000 It's going to go in that direction.

00:40:07.000 And it's a logical argument.

00:40:09.000 Almost every slippery slope argument that has been made in the culture war since before Elvis has actually proved to be correct.

00:40:16.000 Well, the logic is really simple.

00:40:18.000 Conservatives made the argument that if there are two men who are married, what's going to happen is they're going to be walking down the street.

00:40:24.000 And then they're going to argue, well, a child's going to ask about it, so you're going to have to teach them in schools what's going on with the men walking down the street and kissing in public.

00:40:31.000 And that's a slippery slope.

00:40:33.000 And the liberals said, no, no, they'll be in the privacy of their own homes.

00:40:36.000 Well, sure enough, now liberals are arguing just that. 0.99

00:40:38.000 The teacher is gay. 0.99

00:40:39.000 He needs to teach his students what being gay is and show them these books. 0.99

00:40:43.000 And the slippery slope wasn't a slippery slope at all. 0.53

00:40:45.000 It was the logical path.

00:40:46.000 And you thought it was a math teacher, is the irony.

00:40:48.000 Right. 0.99

00:40:49.000 You need to know that you're gay teacher. 0.98

00:40:51.000 What is that even like? 0.97

00:40:52.000 This is part of the curriculum regardless of what the teacher is teaching.

00:40:55.000 So my concern I suppose is the civil libertarian position, one that I've maintained for a long time, has consistently said we must defend the freedom because we fear the slippery slope of if we ban speech, they will use the speech bans against us for other means.

00:41:10.000 And it's like, yes.

00:41:10.000 And if we tolerate vile behavior, then they will push vile behavior in other areas all the same.

00:41:19.000 It goes in both directions.

00:41:20.000 If we do nothing, they get worse, as we've seen with child drag shows.

00:41:24.000 And if we do something, then they try to use it against us all the same.

00:41:28.000 I don't know that there's actually a simple answer.

00:41:30.000 One thing I can tell you is we need to build cultural institutions that do not tolerate this kind of stuff.

00:41:36.000 It doesn't need to be illegal if society rejects it because you will be shunned and ostracized.

00:41:40.000 So we should bring back shame.

00:41:43.000 Stigmatization, yeah.

00:41:44.000 So in order to do that, you have to have a standard from which departure is a reason for shame.

00:41:55.000 What's that standard going to be?

00:41:57.000 So historically, that standard was something that was set by religion.

00:42:04.000 What do you do when people don't believe?

00:42:10.000 I'm citing him again.

00:42:13.000 You have someone like Mike Cernovich, who lived a pretty out there lifestyle in the day.

00:42:24.000 He found religion.

00:42:27.000 He didn't necessarily find God.

00:42:30.000 He concluded, we need this in our lives.

00:42:35.000 And this is something that people... 0.97

00:42:40.000 Who are not reactive, recognize that it's true that if you are contemptuous of a religious tradition, of the entire idea of a divine revelation of truth, like if it really offends you as being impossible to believe, then you're a hypocrite. 0.96

00:43:00.000 What can you do? 0.97

00:43:01.000 You literally don't believe it, you don't believe it.

00:43:04.000 But if you can acknowledge that you might not understand everything, that there might just be something to the tradition that you are at this stage in history, your parents, grandparents were born into, that you should at least look to it as a source of stability that enabled the values that you hold dear to have been transmitted to you, that's the starting point, that you should at least look to it as a source of The values that you hold dear to have been transmitted to you, that's the starting point, I think.

00:43:33.000 There's a great video.

00:43:34.000 I can't remember who wrote about it.

00:43:36.000 Carl Benjamin may have commented on this at some point that a constitution is what constitutes the people.

00:43:43.000 And most peoples in the past, they believed their society had a constitution, the social beliefs and the social moral fabric, but they didn't need to write it down because everybody agreed.

00:43:53.000 And the founding fathers here were like, nah, we better write it down because we want to make sure that it's clear as crystal for legal purposes and, you know, you don't defy us.

00:44:03.000 The problem now is when you get to the point where you have to write things down, your society is already fractured.

00:44:08.000 The idea that we have to write down and tell people we will use force against you if you abuse children...

00:44:15.000 Is terrifying.

00:44:16.000 It means that there's a large population of evil people who would do it without the threat of force against them.

00:44:21.000 Well, I tell people, sometimes someone will say, I want you to work out a partnership agreement.

00:44:27.000 And here are my concerns.

00:44:30.000 What I hear is that these are two people who don't trust each other as far as they can see each other.

00:44:36.000 And sometimes I'll say, why are you even considering going into partnership with this person?

00:44:41.000 Yes, I'm glad that you came here so that if there are issues, everyone's expectations are on the same page.

00:44:49.000 But you have to at least start out with an understanding that...

00:44:56.000 It's possible that things can go wrong, but this is a person that I want to work with.

00:45:00.000 This is a person that I can go to sleep at night knowing that he's my partner and he's taking care of business and he's fundamentally loyal to the partnership.

00:45:09.000 Same thing with a society. 0.93

00:45:13.000 You know, one of the things that you—one of the remarks you made really speaks to me is the fact that—or if someone can acknowledge that maybe there's things that I don't understand or that I don't, you know, don't have all the answers for, one thing that I notice a lot— In the music industry is the arguments against religion or the way that people conceptualize religion.

00:45:42.000 It's almost always very immature.

00:45:45.000 It's I don't need the sky daddy, which is it's such a it's such a childish way to conceptualize religion.

00:45:55.000 Whose fault is that?

00:45:56.000 Pardon me?

00:45:56.000 Whose fault is it?

00:45:58.000 I don't know.

00:46:00.000 The generations that came before us did not instill the values of moral tradition in their children.

00:46:05.000 Well, not only that, but it's because it's beyond...

00:46:07.000 I do agree that's not wrong, but it's not only that, because the argument that people make is...

00:46:13.000 Or essentially the argument they're making is, I know everything there is necessary to negotiate the world.

00:46:22.000 That's what they're saying. 0.98

00:46:23.000 They're saying, I don't need a God, and because I don't need a God, you having a God, you believing in a God is silly. 0.85

00:46:30.000 And From my understanding, there's no society ever in all human history, no matter how far they're separated in space or in time, there's no society that has not had religion. 0.95

00:46:42.000 So for people today to say, oh, we don't need religion, or I don't need religion, it's very, very arrogant.

00:46:49.000 You were going to say?

00:46:49.000 When liberals, or not necessarily liberals, but atheists make the argument that...

00:46:54.000 You know, I don't need a God to tell me not to kill.

00:46:57.000 You know, Cenk Uygur was here.

00:46:58.000 He made a similar argument.

00:46:59.000 He's like, why would people need some kind of, like, God?

00:47:01.000 Because the argument was that morals come from God.

00:47:04.000 The argument—the only thing I think of when someone says that is, sure, for you, but what do we say to the murderers?

00:47:11.000 And the child rapists?

00:47:12.000 And the torturers? 0.95

00:47:14.000 What do we say to them?

00:47:14.000 The villains?

00:47:15.000 Wait, it's not only that.

00:47:17.000 That's great.

00:47:18.000 Jack, you're not going to go out and kill anyone.

00:47:20.000 What happens when the government instructs you that it's your duty as a citizen to kill someone? 0.87

00:47:28.000 And if you don't do so, you will be killed or you will be imprisoned or some of...

00:47:36.000 What's going to happen? 0.90

00:47:38.000 Okay, maybe we're not going to ask you to kill.

00:47:40.000 Maybe we're going to ask you, however, to inform on people.

00:47:45.000 So that they can be killed or so that they can be deprived of liberty.

00:47:49.000 What's your reference?

00:47:53.000 Where's the table that you go to to determine these questions of how do you do it?

00:47:58.000 It's so easy in a sophomore dormitory discussion to talk about the moral system that you've worked out for yourself.

00:48:09.000 One of the hard things about moral systems that are not the product of your own calculation is that they will sometimes ask you to do things that you don't understand and that don't even sit right with you.

00:48:22.000 And that's a great challenge.

00:48:27.000 You can study.

00:48:29.000 You can try to understand why that is.

00:48:32.000 In Judaism, we say that there are certain...

00:48:37.000 Aspects, certain commands from God that we are not meant to understand.

00:48:43.000 But it is our duty nonetheless to...

00:48:46.000 So now, Ron, very good.

00:48:49.000 So let's be the Aztecs.

00:48:51.000 Okay?

00:48:52.000 They had a religion, right? 0.83

00:48:54.000 And their religion was that they would rip your heart out and sacrifice you.

00:48:59.000 That was the tradition they grew up in, right? 0.54

00:49:01.000 Right.

00:49:02.000 To which I respond, you're right.

00:49:05.000 You see, this is...

00:49:06.000 You then have to take the next step and say, not only are you going to have a religion, but you're going to have to be prepared to defend the beliefs in your religion against people who have different beliefs because they might want to take what you have or they might want to make you live the way they want you to live.

00:49:28.000 So you're going to have to not only have religion, but you're going to have to live it.

00:49:32.000 And you're going to have to reckon with it.

00:49:33.000 That's a gigantic...

00:49:35.000 It's a very big take.

00:49:37.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:49:39.000 The Post-Millennial.

00:49:39.000 That was exhausting.

00:49:40.000 Smash the like button while we're at it.

00:49:42.000 And here we go from the Post-Millennial.

00:49:45.000 California Governor Gavin Newsom declares state of emergency over bird flu after 34 human cases.

00:49:52.000 Well, here we go.

00:49:53.000 On Wednesday, Newsom declared a state of emergency.

00:49:55.000 In the proclamation, Newsom wrote that all residents are to obey the direction of emergency officials with regard to this emergency in order to protect their safety.

00:50:02.000 The proclamation stated that avian influenza H5N1 was first detected in the U.S. wild bird population in South Carolina.

00:50:08.000 We get it.

00:50:09.000 Since then, 61 dairies have confirmed positive tests for the bird flu across nine counties in Central California.

00:50:16.000 Despite testing and containment efforts, dairy cows at four Southern California dairies tested positive for bird flu December 12, 2024, necessitating a shift from regional containment to statewide monitoring and response to active cases.

00:50:28.000 The document noted that since March, there have been 61 human cases reported across eight states, 34 in California.

00:50:35.000 Under the emergency declaration, states agencies shall enter into contracts to arrange for the procurement of materials, goods and services necessary to quickly assist with the response to and recovery from the impacts of this emergency.

00:50:46.000 All right.

00:50:47.000 What's the over-under on by January 20th?

00:50:50.000 We're in a full-blown bird flu pandemic.

00:50:52.000 Man, someone get RFK Jr. on this.

00:50:57.000 What do you guys think?

00:50:58.000 I mean, a state of emergency in California is going to grant him some powers.

00:51:01.000 Does it stop there?

00:51:03.000 I do think that it will depend on the state.

00:51:07.000 I think that there will be some states that will say, no, we're going to go ahead and lock down.

00:51:11.000 That will say, we need to do things similar to California.

00:51:14.000 I think there are some states that are going to say, you know what?

00:51:16.000 The states that didn't do that last time actually fared better in the long run.

00:51:21.000 There were some problems in the beginning, but they fared better in the long run, so we're not going to do that.

00:51:26.000 I think that it's going to depend.

00:51:27.000 It's going to be a situation where some states will, some states won't.

00:51:30.000 And then the, then the, the fight is going to be over the narrative there because the, the states that do lock down, they're going to want to make sure that at least they have a good narrative that they can explain away why they did it.

00:51:43.000 And they're going to want to have, they're going to want to have data that supports their decision.

00:51:48.000 So it was the right decision because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:51:51.000 And they'll have their talking points.

00:51:52.000 And then the states that don't lock down will.

00:51:55.000 We'll say, well, no, it wasn't the right decision.

00:51:57.000 We made the right decision and we'll have our talking points.

00:52:00.000 And then the American people are going to decide which one they prefer based on emotional reaction.

00:52:04.000 And we're living in a world now in which the presumption that an entire nation had, the vast majority of people, that you could trust your state and local and federal government and your doctors.

00:52:22.000 Yeah.

00:52:23.000 And universities, on matters of public health, could prima facie be trusted?

00:52:31.000 That's over.

00:52:33.000 That's gone.

00:52:35.000 Yes, there are people who have pled their trough.

00:52:38.000 They are more committed to state control of their health and well-being than ever before.

00:52:44.000 But they have destroyed so much equity and trust there that the entire process that you just described is going to go, I think, quite differently from the way it did last time.

00:53:00.000 So I was reading a little bit more.

00:53:02.000 The most severe case was one gentleman in Louisiana.

00:53:05.000 He didn't die, but he was hospitalized.

00:53:07.000 So far, I'm reading that there is no person-to-person transmission.

00:53:11.000 I'm saying even if this were as bad as COVID were, given how much distrust there is between Americans and our health services, our public health services, and our government, I couldn't imagine the American people having any sort of patience for any sort of Lockdown or shutdowns a la that we did during COVID time.

00:53:30.000 And I especially couldn't see it going into a second Trump administration.

00:53:34.000 So whatever this is, I hope they obviously address it properly, but I couldn't imagine another full-scale lockdown.

00:53:40.000 Well, I'm glad Jay Bhattacharya is going to be in place.

00:53:44.000 Every year we have these bird flu scares.

00:53:47.000 For many years running.

00:53:47.000 That's right.

00:53:48.000 That's right.

00:53:49.000 So far it's relatively contained and hey, we need something to fear monger around.

00:53:55.000 So I guess that's being widely reported.

00:53:57.000 It's hard to know when stories are actually just...

00:54:00.000 A short attention span civilization, like society.

00:54:03.000 We're looking for things to report on.

00:54:05.000 This scares us because of the past pandemic.

00:54:07.000 But if there was a bigger new...

00:54:09.000 If there was, say, like a nuclear strike from Russia in Ukraine, no one would be talking about this.

00:54:14.000 The whole show would be dedicated to being like the ramifications of a nuclear strike, and though it would be an important story.

00:54:19.000 And the Jews. 0.78

00:54:20.000 Of course.

00:54:21.000 Always, always.

00:54:22.000 You gotta shoehorn them in somewhere.

00:54:24.000 I mean, look at the comments.

00:54:26.000 That is the only topic that's being discussed here today.

00:54:29.000 No, no, just a few people.

00:54:31.000 They like saying...

00:54:33.000 They tend to be repetitive, like most dollars.

00:54:35.000 But the issue I guess I'm bringing up is, could this just be a nothing burger?

00:54:41.000 Yeah.

00:54:41.000 I think we're heading towards the holidays.

00:54:43.000 People are seeing stuff in the sky where you think we're being visited by UFOs.

00:54:47.000 You know, I don't know, somebody got sick, so now we're trying to fearmonger a little bit.

00:54:51.000 So those 34 human cases is nationwide.

00:54:55.000 No, that's 61 Nationwide, 34 California.

00:54:58.000 You know that song where it's like, can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars?

00:55:02.000 I had this idea for a joke where, can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are...

00:55:07.000 I want to take it, and then just AI Hayley Williams' voice, so she says, can we pretend that the airplanes in the night sky are like drones?

00:55:15.000 And then just be like...

00:55:16.000 It should be just monotone, drones, straight like that.

00:55:19.000 I think it's funny.

00:55:20.000 It's like somebody thinks they see an airplane.

00:55:21.000 They're like, oh, let me go send my drone up to go check this out.

00:55:24.000 The neighbor sees it. 0.99

00:55:24.000 It's like, oh, crap. 0.99

00:55:25.000 I think there's a drone in the air.

00:55:26.000 I think I need to send my drone up to go check this one out.

00:55:29.000 So let me just be clear.

00:55:30.000 I live in a part of New Jersey that is situated...

00:55:34.000 I didn't know you lived in New Jersey.

00:55:35.000 I liked you.

00:55:37.000 Thank you.

00:55:38.000 Between Newark...

00:55:39.000 I handle the smell.

00:55:40.000 I don't live in the oil refinery.

00:55:45.000 Believe me, there are places in New Jersey that you would be very happy to retire to.

00:55:50.000 Atlantic City.

00:55:52.000 That would not have been my first choice.

00:55:54.000 Jersey Shore.

00:55:55.000 Anyway.

00:55:56.000 Anyway, I'm basically between Teterboro Airport and Newark Airport.

00:56:03.000 Oh, okay.

00:56:04.000 So we're used to the sounds of all kinds of aircraft.

00:56:06.000 I can tell you in the last week...

00:56:09.000 I heard it.

00:56:10.000 Mrs. C heard it.

00:56:11.000 There were weird sounds, and people, friends of ours, did see low-flying craft in the nighttime skies of New Jersey.

00:56:22.000 That's all I know!

00:56:23.000 And you know what?

00:56:24.000 Were they big?

00:56:25.000 They were big, like car size.

00:56:28.000 Really?

00:56:29.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 I think Americans are predisposed, not Americans, people, humans are predisposed to look up in the sky and wonder, look among the stars, the moons, the planets, the drones, whatever's flying in the sky and wonder.

00:56:42.000 I'm from New York.

00:56:44.000 I never see the stars when I'm there.

00:56:46.000 When I come out to here to West Virginia, I look up and it looks like a totally different planet.

00:56:49.000 So I don't know.

00:56:50.000 There's a fly around here.

00:56:52.000 There's stuff in the air.

00:56:53.000 Like with the Potomac River, there's gyrocopter tours.

00:56:56.000 And so we see weird low-flying car-sized things, just like zoom past all the time.

00:57:02.000 And I hope the military's working on something way past our understanding, at least testing out some...

00:57:09.000 Yeah, they're actually anti-gravity passenger vehicles, and the quad rotors on them are an illusion just to make it look like they're using standard fluid dynamic flight.

00:57:19.000 Yeah, instead we have the F-35.

00:57:22.000 Barely works.

00:57:23.000 What was that jet that Elon Musk was complaining about?

00:57:26.000 He might cut with Doge.

00:57:27.000 Oh yeah, he said it was awful.

00:57:30.000 Wasn't that the F-35, no?

00:57:31.000 I don't know if it was the F-35.

00:57:32.000 I don't remember exactly which.

00:57:34.000 I bring this up, of course.

00:57:36.000 Everyone's concerned about a state of emergency because people are trying to find which conspiracy will come true to hinder Donald Trump.

00:57:41.000 Nobody wants to believe that Trump's going to get in with a clean inauguration.

00:57:44.000 There was some guy, there's a video going viral where he says he's calling for 11 million people to go to the Capitol and give Trump a coronary to peacefully force Trump to reject the presidency, which makes no sense because then who would be president?

00:57:55.000 But everybody's trying to figure out which conspiracy is it going to be.

00:58:00.000 Bird flu?

00:58:00.000 Drones?

00:58:01.000 Jews.

00:58:01.000 What's going on?

00:58:04.000 Tim, why'd you skip that one?

00:58:05.000 Bird flu, drones.

00:58:07.000 He's a shill for Israel, of course. 0.86

00:58:09.000 No, because those are all Jewish conspiracies. 0.94

00:58:11.000 No, because the drone conspiracy is that there's some secret operation going on.

00:58:16.000 The bird flu conspiracy is that people are dying of a disease.

00:58:20.000 You have to tell me what the Jews are going to do to Trump. 1.00

00:58:24.000 What are they going to do to Trump?

00:58:26.000 Since they already control him, after all.

00:58:28.000 Well, then why would they stop him?

00:58:29.000 Then why would they stop him?

00:58:30.000 Exactly.

00:58:32.000 Yeah, so what is it?

00:58:34.000 They never have to be consistent.

00:58:36.000 Is that a real conspiracy, though?

00:58:37.000 Do people actually think that Trump is controlled by...

00:58:40.000 Dude, Nick Fuentes, he is all in on the, you know, Trump used to be against immigration, like illegal and legal immigration, and now he's all pro-Israel.

00:58:40.000 Yes.

00:58:52.000 He was always for legal It's not only Trump, it's the Zionist-occupied government. 0.86

00:58:57.000 It's the Zog. 1.00

00:59:00.000 Totally under the thumb of the...

00:59:02.000 And Trump, too.

00:59:03.000 I mean, his biggest donors were Jews in both campaigns, the Adelsons.

00:59:07.000 Musk might have edged out, but he did it through a super PAC or what have you, but...

00:59:11.000 How's the check?

00:59:12.000 There are a lot of weird people out there.

00:59:13.000 Yeah, there are.

00:59:14.000 And they're all in the chat.

00:59:15.000 You know, Elon Musk doesn't get enough credit for spending as much money as he does.

00:59:19.000 I feel like the Adelsons, they get a ton of credit, but Elon Musk whips out $100 million, and if he were Jewish, I feel like he'd have more eyes on him.

00:59:27.000 But $100 million for him is a little bit more like, you know, making a wedding for, you know, a middle-class person, whereas for the Adelsons, $100 million, I think they might notice.

00:59:40.000 Yeah.

00:59:42.000 Well, I mean, I don't know how much money the Adelsons have versus Elon Musk when it comes to, like, liquid cash, you know?

00:59:50.000 Yeah, I mean, we have no idea what we're talking about.

00:59:52.000 I was hinting a little bit earlier about Elon Musk and his relationship with Trump and potential concerns about it.

00:59:58.000 I think...

00:59:59.000 You know, we like Elon Musk because he widely agrees with us, but, you know, there are some conflicts of interest with him working in government.

01:00:08.000 He does have very big businesses, obviously.

01:00:10.000 Trump used to be very anti-EVs until Elon Musk became a supporter of his, and then he had a quote where he's like, well, Elon Musk is one of my biggest supporters now.

01:00:18.000 I guess I gotta like EVs.

01:00:20.000 So, um...

01:00:21.000 The relationship is interesting.

01:00:22.000 I doubt it'll last all four years of the Trump administration.

01:00:25.000 I don't know if he's just trying to, like, couch Elon Musk in this Doge project with Vivek, but with how much influence he's exerting, especially on this CR, I mean, he's somebody to have our eyes on.

01:00:36.000 He thinks he's president, though.

01:00:37.000 I think Elon thinks he's the Jew controlling Trump. 0.75

01:00:41.000 It's Elon. 0.95

01:00:42.000 You have a problem with African Americans, obviously.

01:00:45.000 Yeah, that's what it is. 0.97

01:00:46.000 You just don't like it.

01:00:47.000 Well, South Africans, like Surge, this guy says.

01:00:49.000 I don't think Trump is easily controlled.

01:00:51.000 I think he can be manipulated.

01:00:53.000 Maybe not easily, but he can be.

01:00:55.000 and so he certainly falls into these traps where he trusts someone too much.

01:01:00.000 I don't see a reality where someone goes to Trump and tells him what to do and he just goes, what if you say, I'll do whatever you want.

01:01:05.000 That's not Donald Trump.

01:01:07.000 You have to try to convince it it's his idea.

01:01:09.000 You'd have to...

01:01:10.000 Right, you can manipulate him.

01:01:12.000 Trump's the kind of guy who's like...

01:01:14.000 Seamus made the joke when we did the Fauci-Trump cast the COVID into the fire gag.

01:01:19.000 So the joke was that...

01:01:21.000 Fauci is making an excuse for why they made the virus, and it's a play on Lord of the Rings where Fauci says to Trump, do it, cast the virus into the fires, and Trump goes, well, I was going to, but now I'm not because you told me to.

01:01:34.000 Like, that's kind of the idea.

01:01:36.000 You can't go to Trump and say, do it, he'll go.

01:01:38.000 Now I'm doing the opposite.

01:01:39.000 And easily flattered.

01:01:41.000 I think if you give him a lot of compliments, tell him he's the biggest and best president that he ever had, that there ever was.

01:01:46.000 You tell him that he won the previous election, that he's never lost the election, that he's been president the whole time.

01:01:52.000 I said he was the best president of my lifetime.

01:01:52.000 I told him that.

01:01:54.000 And that he never lost one.

01:01:56.000 I didn't say that.

01:01:58.000 But if you do say that to him, he'll give you endorsements.

01:02:01.000 It's true though. 0.96

01:02:02.000 How was your experience meeting Trump when you did that interview with him?

01:02:06.000 I met him a couple times.

01:02:07.000 The interview is good.

01:02:08.000 But I did tell him that he's the greatest president of my lifetime, and it's not very many.

01:02:12.000 And he agreed.

01:02:13.000 And he did agree.

01:02:14.000 He said thank you.

01:02:16.000 Or something to that effect.

01:02:16.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:18.000 But it's true.

01:02:18.000 You look at the economy.

01:02:20.000 You look at the border.

01:02:22.000 You look at trade policy.

01:02:23.000 You look at foreign policy.

01:02:24.000 It's the best we've ever had.

01:02:26.000 But there's an element in this country that wants us to dump hundreds of billions of dollars in Ukraine.

01:02:32.000 And they can't articulate why.

01:02:33.000 Other than Russia is a big country.

01:02:36.000 And Ukraine is a small country.

01:02:38.000 So I think it was Mitch McConnell who wrote an article in Foreign Policy earlier this week, or I think it was earlier this week or late last week, about why we should still be in Ukraine and supporting Ukraine.

01:02:50.000 He'll argue things like that all of our enemies are...

01:02:54.000 They're all working together.

01:02:55.000 It's this axis of resistance.

01:02:57.000 And part of why Assad fell was because Russia's bogged down in Ukraine.

01:03:01.000 And, you know, if Russia's successful in Ukraine, then it could help embolden China.

01:03:06.000 How do you react to something like that from somebody like Mitch McConnell?

01:03:09.000 Say it one more time.

01:03:10.000 Mitch McConnell argues that all the axis of resistance are allies with each other and that when Putin's bogged down in Ukraine, Assad is propped up less and China's less emboldened to invade Taiwan.

01:03:22.000 Can you make that more concise?

01:03:24.000 Are you saying that our enemies are united and if we withdraw from one area, they will...

01:03:28.000 Become emboldened and yeah.

01:03:30.000 Like for example, if China sees that we retreat from helping Ukraine, then we're therefore less likely to...

01:03:36.000 I think it's the opposite.

01:03:38.000 I think China sees an opportunity with U.S. entrenchment.

01:03:42.000 I think this is more historically accurate.

01:03:45.000 China wants Taiwan.

01:03:46.000 They're going to wait until we are occupied and bogged down in a war we can't handle, and then they're going to make their move. 0.75

01:03:53.000 So if we say, we're not getting involved in Ukraine, who's not an ally, our concern is Taiwan.

01:03:58.000 Who cares?

01:04:00.000 Russia takes the Donbass region and moves into Crimea, and we're like, whatever.

01:04:03.000 Not a NATO country.

01:04:05.000 China's going to be like, we can't make a move on Taiwan because the US is armed and ready.

01:04:08.000 We dump hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine, start sending troops to Poland, and we've been doing that. 0.63

01:04:14.000 And then China, what happens?

01:04:16.000 A Chinese vessel drops anchor and severs to undersea cables because they create conflict and chaos there. 0.97

01:04:22.000 They assist.

01:04:22.000 And then when we're distracted and that pulls resources away from the Pacific fleet, they can move into Taiwan.

01:04:29.000 Which they've been continually trying to do.

01:04:30.000 It's going to be interesting to see how foreign policy plays out in the Trump administration because I feel like he's neither an isolationist nor interventionist.

01:04:37.000 Trump, like he does in many political fields, he ascends.

01:04:41.000 I think Trump tries to...

01:04:44.000 Played a little close to the chest.

01:04:46.000 He doesn't want to know, you know, you never know which way he's going to go.

01:04:49.000 He can nuke you, or he could launch a piece. 0.95

01:04:51.000 He might need another madman involved in his administration. 0.96

01:04:54.000 I certainly hope not.

01:04:55.000 Well, I think he already has some of them with Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz, was it? 0.93

01:04:59.000 Are you saying that Marco Rubio's a madman? 0.83

01:05:02.000 Not a madman, but... 0.98

01:05:04.000 More neoconic?

01:05:05.000 People would call him a neocon, yeah.

01:05:06.000 Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.

01:05:08.000 I mean, Marco Rubio's the most establishment guy that I think I've heard Trump decide to...

01:05:12.000 I think he's very hawkish still, Rubio.

01:05:14.000 Yeah, but I think Rubio's proven to Trump that he'll just do what Trump says.

01:05:18.000 Yeah.

01:05:19.000 That Trump's like, listen...

01:05:21.000 You're going to do the job.

01:05:22.000 You're going to do what we want you to do.

01:05:23.000 And then afterwards, you have a career in front of you.

01:05:25.000 Rubio's probably like, okay. 0.89

01:05:26.000 It would be dumb politically for any of these guys to cross Donald Trump, obviously. 0.87

01:05:30.000 It's not even the Republican Party anymore. 0.96

01:05:32.000 It's the MAGA party.

01:05:33.000 It's the MAGA season, baby.

01:05:34.000 The Republican Party was awful.

01:05:36.000 I never liked them.

01:05:37.000 And then Trump came in and he is not a traditional Republican.

01:05:39.000 And Bernie was trying to do the same thing to the Democrats.

01:05:42.000 But he wasn't willing to really try.

01:05:45.000 When push came to shove, Bernie backed down.

01:05:47.000 Oh yeah.

01:05:48.000 Every single time. 1.00

01:05:49.000 Bernie is a spineless coward. 0.99

01:05:52.000 He is absolutely—no matter how—I don't care if you like what he was talking about or not, it is objectively true that he is spineless and he doesn't have the guts to stand up to the Democrats at all. 0.99

01:06:05.000 He walked off the stage as soon as two women got up on stage and were saying, this is our stage now, blah, blah, blah.

01:06:11.000 He's like, okay, fine, get out of here.

01:06:14.000 So the idea that Bernie is a person to be emulated, that's a joke in my opinion. 0.78

01:06:21.000 So he has no spine and no guts.

01:06:23.000 What consists of his body?

01:06:25.000 I imagine he has like a carapace.

01:06:30.000 His torso is actually a carapace.

01:06:32.000 He's a bug.

01:06:34.000 So there's not many good things I could say about Democrats, but I do think they subject the socialists in their party, subjugate the socialists in their party very well.

01:06:43.000 So like what they did with Bernie Sanders and now what they're doing with AOC with these head house positions that she was...

01:06:50.000 We'll see about that because the socialists in the party were setting the narrative for the Democrats for the past 15 years.

01:06:58.000 That's what woke is.

01:06:58.000 It's all race communism, right?

01:07:01.000 It's all just communism based on race.

01:07:04.000 Equity is all communism.

01:07:06.000 We've got to bring the people that are of the minorities POC. They all have to be given stuff so that way we can tear the white people down. 1.00

01:07:14.000 That was a whole... 0.60

01:07:15.000 So, I don't know that they actually do control them.

01:07:19.000 We'll see.

01:07:19.000 The current civil war in the Democrat Party will kind of show you.

01:07:26.000 And it would be nice to see the Democrats kind of return to being...

01:07:31.000 You know, marginally intelligent and to really isolate people like Hassan and the far left and do something about the fact that there are so many Democrats or leftists that would caucus with the Democrats that will say things like they support the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO and all of the horrible,

01:07:54.000 monstrous Yes.

01:08:07.000 Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about, which is so gross.

01:08:10.000 I also think there's something to be said about half the people who are talking in support of Luigi online.

01:08:14.000 Half of them were POS communists, obviously.

01:08:16.000 Yes.

01:08:17.000 And I feel like it's dangerous to be sympathetic with people like those.

01:08:20.000 Once you start justifying political murder, I think that leads you down. 1.00

01:08:25.000 Obviously, a really dumb, gross, obviously. 1.00

01:08:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:35.000 The person who perpetrated that crime was praised, and he was, you know, so you have to wonder what the downstream effects with that will be.

01:08:42.000 Multiple attempts on Donald Trump's life, obviously, with all the praise that Luigi has received online, although probably not as real, not as potent in real life as it is online, could inspire others.

01:08:54.000 So we could have this stochastic terrorism effect.

01:08:58.000 That's the only time I'd ever appreciate and use that phrase like that, too.

01:09:01.000 I thought you were going to go on to it.

01:09:03.000 No, I agree with you, but if you look at the politics in the U.S., and I think that this is probably inflamed by the Internet and stuff, but there are people on the far left, and there are far more people on the far left that are comfortable with calling themselves communists, but there is a growing faction on the far right that are comfortable putting up pictures of Hitler and saying, we owe this man an apology.

01:09:26.000 That was a tweet.

01:09:27.000 No, that was a wild tweet.

01:09:28.000 It's got six million views.

01:09:29.000 Unreal.

01:09:30.000 I mean, look.

01:09:32.000 How do you know it was six million?

01:09:36.000 That's a good question.

01:09:37.000 Can you name all six million?

01:09:40.000 And are there even that many phones?

01:09:42.000 That's right.

01:09:42.000 Yeah, you know.

01:09:43.000 Well, some people could view it multiple times, and...

01:09:46.000 I don't know if that...

01:09:46.000 But the...

01:09:47.000 The point...

01:09:48.000 The point being...

01:09:51.000 Oh, God.

01:09:53.000 What are we doing here?

01:09:54.000 The point being, the internet does amplify...

01:09:59.000 Let me get through my sentence.

01:10:03.000 Why?

01:10:03.000 Why should I? You had all these sentences.

01:10:06.000 Yeah.

01:10:09.000 Never mind.

01:10:10.000 There's crazies on both sides, and the internet helps them.

01:10:12.000 That's what I'm trying to say.

01:10:13.000 And most of them are from other countries, anyway.

01:10:15.000 We got this story from the...

01:10:17.000 Actually, I don't know if they're going to...

01:10:18.000 Can we pull it up?

01:10:19.000 There we go.

01:10:20.000 Okay, I just wanted to make sure it was going to load.

01:10:21.000 We got the story from the Free Press.

01:10:21.000 Oh, man.

01:10:22.000 Oh, man.

01:10:23.000 Jesse Single, Blue Sky has a death threat problem.

01:10:26.000 I love Blue Sky so much.

01:10:28.000 It's a lull. 0.99

01:10:29.000 Yeah, because it basically is a vacuum cleaner or a garbage disposal for the violent, unhinged leftists. 0.89

01:10:36.000 They all got mad at Elon and left, and now we can sit here in peace and talk like adults.

01:10:41.000 But Jesse Single writes, it was supposed to be a gentler left-wing alternative to X. My grim experience proves that just isn't the case.

01:10:50.000 Jesse Single is one of the liberals that I have followed for many, many years, and he pretty much avoids interacting with me because it wouldn't look good to his friends.

01:11:02.000 But he doesn't block me either.

01:11:05.000 And I often tweet him because he sometimes has good common sense takes.

01:11:09.000 That's the beginning of your hint into what the problem is, is that he sometimes has common sense.

01:11:14.000 He is a centrist liberal.

01:11:16.000 And he absolutely has Trump derangement syndrome.

01:11:21.000 He will rationalize things that are so preposterous.

01:11:25.000 He's a liberal.

01:11:26.000 But sometimes he can't help but notice that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.

01:11:34.000 So he posted a couple of these from Blue Sky.

01:11:37.000 them basically saying they want to kill him, but they can't. 0.94

01:11:42.000 There's another post we're saying they want to shoot him twice.

01:11:46.000 The funny thing is, there's a bunch of posts from people who, conservatives who went on Blue Sky and tried posting opinions and were banned for it, or throttled for it.

01:11:56.000 Jesse Single found that on this leftist, gentler free speech platform, where they actually claim free speech, there's hundreds of thousands of death threats, and they won't do anything about it.

01:12:07.000 I almost think Blue Sky was intentionally created as a catch-all for far-left lunatics, so it's all on purpose.

01:12:14.000 I'm The thing about Jesse Singel, too, just to give people a background on him, he's a journalist who writes extensively about trans issues, and that's the reason why he's getting this pushback.

01:12:25.000 He's liberal in all other senses except for the trans issue, I think particularly with Children going on puberty blockers. 0.92

01:12:32.000 So the reason why most of the people who are threatening him are trans activists who are very frustrated with his coverage about how in Europe, a lot of these different health and public health institutions are rolling back their puberty blocker plans.

01:12:45.000 And the more he points this out, the more they call him transphobic.

01:12:48.000 He's probably the number one target of trans activists because of his work in this space.

01:12:53.000 He will constantly review trans activist articles using misleading science.

01:12:58.000 He'll fact check the New York Times using misleading science about trans issues.

01:13:03.000 So that's why he's garnered so much hate on this platform in particular.

01:13:08.000 And I mean, he's doing doing the Lord's work.

01:13:11.000 Good for him for standing up about this stuff.

01:13:14.000 Taking the slings and arrows that he will get from the absolute loonies that would send those kind of tweets, which tend to be, you know, the trans activists tend to be a volatile bunch.

01:13:28.000 He's liberal in every other way, and he didn't toe the line on one issue, and this is the pushback. 0.63

01:13:33.000 But it happens to be an issue that is of most interest to people who are already mentally unbalanced.

01:13:41.000 You know.

01:13:42.000 I might be giving him too much credit, but he is the premier disinfo reporter on trans issues.

01:13:48.000 Good for him.

01:13:49.000 Across the journalism space.

01:13:50.000 Good for him.

01:13:51.000 I commend Jesse Singal.

01:13:52.000 He'll probably never come on the show, but I'm sure he has an open invite.

01:13:55.000 He'll probably disavow the commendation from us.

01:13:57.000 But either way, he's still doing good work, and he takes a lot of heat, and it's really, really...

01:14:02.000 It's something that's very, very respectable that he continues to stick to his guns.

01:14:08.000 Beyond his politics, he's willing to do journalism and he's willing to follow where that leads him.

01:14:14.000 And I think that's refreshing in an era where all of journalism is tainted so much by partisan politics.

01:14:21.000 I wouldn't even say partisan politics.

01:14:22.000 I'd say ideology.

01:14:23.000 What do we think happens with, like, the Antifa crowd?

01:14:26.000 Because they're being isolated to places like Blue Sky.

01:14:29.000 They're excising themselves from the conversation.

01:14:31.000 They're sitting here cheering for the alleged...

01:14:36.000 assassin, I can't imagine they maintain any kind of mainstream appeal for much longer.

01:14:41.000 I think they've lost mainstream appeal.

01:14:43.000 Right.

01:14:43.000 You look at John Stewart, Bill Maher, and these other liberals, Cenk Uygur now going, oh, well, I'm a moderate populist, and I think we should give Trump a chance.

01:14:52.000 They're no longer useful.

01:14:53.000 They were used, they were deployed, like the SA, in their time.

01:14:53.000 Yeah.

01:15:01.000 They were meant to hit the streets and disrupt the establishment and to be the leading edge of the left wing, but in a way which structurally— they could be disowned when they were no longer useful.

01:15:17.000 They're not being paid anymore.

01:15:19.000 By the way...

01:15:21.000 A good number of them are in jail now.

01:15:22.000 I don't think they dispersed.

01:15:24.000 I mean, I think they dispersed and are now just infiltrating different institutions.

01:15:28.000 They are becoming staffers.

01:15:29.000 A lot of them are becoming photographers.

01:15:31.000 A lot of them are journalists.

01:15:33.000 A lot of them are videographers.

01:15:35.000 I think that you're talking about two distinct groups.

01:15:38.000 The ground troops, the ones that are Antifa, they're not staffers.

01:15:44.000 They're not doing things.

01:15:46.000 They're still significantly homeless and They're still going to be throwing firebombs.

01:15:51.000 Give them the opportunity.

01:15:52.000 They'll still throw firebombs. 0.79

01:15:53.000 They still have face tattoos. 0.85

01:15:55.000 They're still the ones that are the real crazies that are mentally compromised and will do antisocial acts just for the fun of it.

01:16:06.000 I think a lot of Antifa is a lot more More privileged than we like to think so, and a lot of them are joining non-profits, a lot of them are, you know, trying to rehabilitate their image in different ways, and they're infiltrating, and they're very happy about it behind the scenes when I think they infiltrate.

01:16:21.000 I don't think you're wrong about a segment, but when I think of Antifa...

01:16:27.000 Yeah, I think.

01:16:51.000 I think there is a smaller portion that are the smart ones that are, you know, kind of giving direction than the larger portion of the, you know, just crazy. 0.72

01:17:02.000 I mean, crazies.

01:17:03.000 I think they're at Palestine marches, frankly. 0.94

01:17:05.000 That's where they are.

01:17:06.000 But if you look at the...

01:17:06.000 Yeah, probably.

01:17:08.000 You know, the people that attacked Rittenhouse, the first dude, I forget what his name was, whatever his name was, but he wasn't like...

01:17:14.000 Rosenbaum?

01:17:15.000 Yeah, Rosenbaum. 0.99

01:17:15.000 He wasn't an Antifa Antifa, but he was a useful idiot for Antifa, and he was a crazy dude, and he was, you know, he'd been arrested and... 0.99

01:17:24.000 Yeah, he's just bad news, but that's the kind of dude that Antifa will have throw the first rock at the cops, or that will throw the rock through the window, because he's the one that'll do it, and he's got basically nothing going for him anyway. 0.82

01:17:37.000 And I think that those guys are more numerous than the actual smart people that are kind of directing them.

01:17:44.000 So...

01:17:45.000 That's my take on the Antifa.

01:17:46.000 But I don't think they're going anywhere.

01:17:49.000 I just don't think that they have the same kind of energy that they had in 2020. I'll tell you where they are.

01:17:54.000 They're on Blue Sky threatening to kill Jesse Singal.

01:17:58.000 It's interesting now because if we'll see all the hit pieces from the Washington Post and New York Times.

01:18:03.000 Blue Sky, they have a serious threat problem.

01:18:06.000 They don't care.

01:18:07.000 So we'll see if it's held to the same standard that all the other platforms have.

01:18:12.000 I doubt we'll see the hit pieces on Blue Sky.

01:18:12.000 It won't be.

01:18:15.000 Unless, Tim, if you migrated over, you know.

01:18:18.000 Then we might see more hit pieces.

01:18:19.000 No, you get kicked off.

01:18:20.000 That's funny.

01:18:21.000 I was on there and I said something actually positive about Taylor Lorenz.

01:18:26.000 I said she was a gift and she still blocked me.

01:18:28.000 Well, you didn't get banned, though.

01:18:30.000 But I'm sure that if I continue down that road, I was called a racist bigot on the first day that I was on Blue Sky.

01:18:30.000 No, no.

01:18:39.000 Well, I love that we're winning.

01:18:42.000 So I'm excited for January 20th.

01:18:45.000 There's going to be a bunch of parties in D.C. It's going to get wild.

01:18:48.000 You gonna be there?

01:18:49.000 Yes.

01:18:50.000 Of course.

01:18:51.000 Did I know the answer?

01:18:52.000 I knew the answer.

01:18:52.000 Well, we live here.

01:18:55.000 I'll be searching for Antifa right outside the gates.

01:19:00.000 Yeah, I wonder.

01:19:01.000 Do you think there's gonna be big protests on the 20th?

01:19:03.000 Yes, definitely.

01:19:04.000 I feel bad I have a conflict of interest for my work, but I sure hope so.

01:19:08.000 I couldn't foresee there not being protests.

01:19:10.000 Frankly, D.C. is such a liberal place.

01:19:12.000 But I don't think it's gonna be like in 2016. You know, all it takes is a small group of agitators to...

01:19:19.000 I remember Trump fans getting assaulted, leaving some of his rallies, or I think it was the inauguration the first time. 0.88

01:19:27.000 So people still believe Trump is a fascist. 0.82

01:19:27.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.82

01:19:30.000 Well, there was a deplorable where Trump supporters had that big gala and Antifa was chucking bricks and rocks at us as we were walking in the building.

01:19:40.000 And the cops were just standing there. 0.73

01:19:41.000 And it was crazy as we're going walking on the street with a police line keeping hundreds of psychopathic leftists away.

01:19:48.000 The cops are by the doors, and as we're walking in, they're just launching things at us, and the cops didn't do anything about it. 0.76

01:19:54.000 And then Gavin McInnes licked the guy's face.

01:19:56.000 And I also believe there's a woman's march two days before the inauguration, if I'm not mistaken, in D.C. You know, I can respect it, but I think the issue is what they're saying online is that the woman's march did nothing.

01:20:08.000 They were like, what, how many, like three million people showed up in D.C., walked around and left, and literally nothing happened. 0.84

01:20:13.000 So I'm concerned that these people are going to be lunatics. 0.98

01:20:16.000 Well, I'm concerned they are, and this time they will be angry lunatics. 1.00

01:20:20.000 Yeah, losers. 0.96

01:20:23.000 So let me suggest, though, that yes, there's always going to be a percentage, and when you are doing things that are inflammatory, a small percentage will seem like a lot more of a phenomenon than a large percentage. 0.94

01:20:39.000 Having said that, It seems to me that the playbook has moved away from the mass violence.

01:20:51.000 And there's probably a tactical reason for it, and it looks like you have an idea as to what it might be.

01:20:55.000 No, actually, I was going to ask you what you thought it might be.

01:20:58.000 I was hoping Tim would explain it, actually.

01:21:01.000 No, what I think it might be is it didn't work.

01:21:04.000 At the end of the day, it was disruptive, and that was something.

01:21:11.000 But the left has learned that the right has learned.

01:21:19.000 There are things, for example, January 6th, when I first saw it advertised, The idea popped into my head for a minute to go.

01:21:33.000 Then I said, absolutely a trap.

01:21:36.000 Yeah.

01:21:37.000 That would be insane.

01:21:37.000 Absolutely.

01:21:39.000 Because I saw what happened to Gavin McInnes.

01:21:41.000 I saw what happened with the Proud Boys.

01:21:43.000 All you have to do is show up.

01:21:46.000 Yep.

01:21:47.000 And push back.

01:21:47.000 Yep.

01:21:49.000 And you're now the terrorist.

01:21:51.000 So that's not an option.

01:21:53.000 But the right has learned.

01:21:55.000 Anybody who had been watching my show...

01:21:59.000 Would have known.

01:21:59.000 So it's a funny thing that happened after January 6th is that I got accused of having foreknowledge that Tim Poole had been informed they were planning to storm the Capitol because I had said in September of 2020 that in November, a bunch of right wing, if Trump loses, a bunch of right wing people are going to like storm the White House or something. a bunch of right wing, if Trump loses, a bunch And it was speculation.

01:22:19.000 I was saying these people are pissed.

01:22:22.000 And if Trump doesn't win, these people are going to go to D.C. and like storm the White House in November.

01:22:27.000 Well, I was wrong.

01:22:28.000 Nobody stormed the White House in November, but people did storm the Capitol in January.

01:22:32.000 And so then I was accused of having foreknowledge.

01:22:35.000 My opinion on this is just I think it's fairly obvious when people are angry and planning on protesting.

01:22:41.000 And then you had Trump saying it's going to be routed to be a big protest.

01:22:45.000 And we're only an hour away.

01:22:46.000 And we were like, should we get a hotel?

01:22:49.000 And we actually got we rented a hotel room in advance to do the show live from D.C. on January 6th.

01:22:55.000 And then as we were getting closer and closer to the date, we were having conversations about security with the barricades and the plans the city had had.

01:23:03.000 We were concerned about being able to actually get down there and do any kind of show with the mass showing was expected.

01:23:08.000 So we said, I don't think we can do it.

01:23:09.000 We should probably just stay here.

01:23:11.000 We stayed in Maryland and did the show from a normal location.

01:23:11.000 And then we did.

01:23:15.000 But that day, doing my morning show, watching the news, it was crazy.

01:23:20.000 As it was unfolding, it was a lot scarier than...

01:23:22.000 Because you didn't know what was going on and then someone got shot.

01:23:24.000 We have to keep in mind, there's all...

01:23:26.000 I mean, there is a...

01:23:28.000 Again, talking about moving that Overton window, there is now a regime, an expectation of non-enforcement of the law against violent left-wing protest in D.C. So when the Palestinian regime Protesters scaled the White House fences and were really extremely menacing around the area of the White House. 0.65

01:23:56.000 Nothing was done.

01:23:59.000 I think there were literally no arrests.

01:24:04.000 That is the policy of law enforcement in D.C. So that does still pose a risk.

01:24:14.000 My real concern was that if we showed up, Nancy Pelosi would deploy belt-fed 50 caliber. 1.00

01:24:21.000 And we'd be...

01:24:23.000 I think she actually requested that.

01:24:24.000 Was that the story?

01:24:25.000 Yes, she did.

01:24:26.000 She requested belt-fed.50 BMG or something?

01:24:28.000 No, not.50 BMG. It was something else.

01:24:30.000 I'm not a gun guy, so I don't know the exact ammo type you'd use for those butterfly trigger...

01:24:34.000 Well, that's a Ma Deuce.

01:24:36.000 That's an M2. That's a.50 Cal.

01:24:38.000 Audie Murphy on top of the tank.

01:24:40.000 Right.

01:24:40.000 Money down Krauts.

01:24:42.000 She possibly could have just asked for belt-fed, and that could be anything from a.556 to a.716. 0.99

01:24:48.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:24:49.000 Just stop it. 1.00

01:24:50.000 You see, you bring a guy onto the show, and already it's with the guns.

01:24:55.000 Hey, look.

01:24:56.000 With the killing and the shooting and the hurting.

01:24:58.000 Yeah, Phil.

01:24:58.000 Listen.

01:24:59.000 I'm a gun guy.

01:24:59.000 I can't help it.

01:25:01.000 Ron, I'm armed right now.

01:25:03.000 Come on.

01:25:04.000 Welcome to West Virginia.

01:25:06.000 Yeah, right?

01:25:06.000 Well, look, as long as the...

01:25:08.000 I like to entertain the idea that the left has basically given up and they're isolated to the far corners of the internet in places like Blue Sky and they're not going to show up.

01:25:17.000 We got reporting from Andy Ngo in the Post Millennial.

01:25:19.000 Some Antifa chick got arrested.

01:25:21.000 And charged and convicted.

01:25:23.000 So, I don't know, maybe the tolerance for this stuff has just ended.

01:25:27.000 People were scared because Antifa was going to burn your building down, but now that Trump won, there's a popular mandate, people feel like they're not isolated anymore, and so now they're just like, we can stand up.

01:25:35.000 Yeah, I have a feeling that the victories at the ballot box have made people that were a little hesitant to admit that they supported people on the right, they supported Trump, that they...

01:25:48.000 I think that has changed the opinion.

01:25:51.000 I think more than that is that it became acceptable to acknowledge that it's allowed for Republicans to win elections.

01:26:02.000 I mean, I was very struck on election day and the night of election day and the next day by the Corporate leaders who are associated with the Democratic Party congratulating Donald Trump.

01:26:17.000 That, I don't think, would have happened in 2020 if he had won in 2020. Of course not.

01:26:23.000 He succeeded in normalizing himself As a person who is entitled to be elected president if he wins the election.

01:26:35.000 Did you hear what he said?

01:26:36.000 When he did the press conference, he was like, you know, in my first term, everybody was fighting me and now they're all trying to be my friend.

01:26:43.000 I guess my personality changed.

01:26:46.000 I was like, wow.

01:26:47.000 He was very calm when he said it.

01:26:49.000 So if you can't beat him, join him.

01:26:50.000 But I think it is true.

01:26:52.000 He kind of chilled a little bit.

01:26:54.000 You know, he was a bit more aggressive first time around.

01:26:57.000 And now he's...

01:26:58.000 But you know, I also sense a real determination and focus on his part.

01:27:04.000 He is so much more aware of how the game is played.

01:27:12.000 Yeah, he is older.

01:27:15.000 But what I see when I look at him is a guy who won't be fooled again.

01:27:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:25.000 The fact that he has had four years where he was kind of out in the wilderness is a big deal.

01:27:33.000 He did learn a lot in the time that he was in office, of course, but it wouldn't be the same had he won directly after his first time.

01:27:46.000 I think this actually is going to be better for America...

01:27:50.000 Because of what he's determined to do, having him had the four years away than the results that he would get for America had he gotten a consecutive term.

01:27:59.000 And there has been, I mean, the deep state and the cancer, the woke mind virus was given the opportunity to spread in a way that we would prefer that it hadn't.

01:28:10.000 But...

01:28:11.000 We know where it is now.

01:28:14.000 They came out shamelessly.

01:28:17.000 You know, places in government and in other institutions, I mean, the universities have lost all credibility among normal people.

01:28:27.000 They're now readily identifiable and their contempt for the rest of us is open and there's going to be a lot more popular support than there otherwise would have been.

01:28:42.000 On this idea of Trump becoming normalized, I think this is in large part due to the fatigue of fear-mongering and how long that could last, four years, eight years, and then it's like, what does Trump actually accomplish that is such a big threat to our country?

01:28:56.000 They say he won't leave office, but he ends up leaving office.

01:28:59.000 He's going to be a dictator.

01:29:00.000 He's going to start World War III. He's going to pull us out of NATO. He's going to do this.

01:29:03.000 He's going to take away your rights.

01:29:05.000 When none of this comes to fruition, I think the populace naturally realizes that the threat that he's made out to be doesn't really exist.

01:29:13.000 I think the actual challenge we have is finding our identity after a tremendous victory.

01:29:20.000 The left may be so disheveled and lost in the Democratic Party, there's going to be a lot of infighting on the right over what the next moves should be.

01:29:30.000 That'll be interesting.

01:29:31.000 Personally, I mean, I think that it is good that Donald Trump and the people that he has lined up have the incentive and have made it clear that they want to cut the government because the way that the left has exerted a significant amount of control over the population is through the bureaucracy.

01:29:47.000 If we can shrink the bureaucracy, if we can actually make significant cuts...

01:29:51.000 And make the bureaucracy significantly smaller and take the government out of people's lives on a daily basis.

01:29:59.000 That could be a very, very good start to keeping the woke mind virus out of everybody's living room and bedroom and stuff like that.

01:30:12.000 It's extremely exciting political times because I think we're seeing a realignment in both the Republican and Democrat Party.

01:30:18.000 Currently, the Republican Party is all MAGA, but we'll see if in a post-Trump world, anybody in the Republican Party will be able to coalesce the parties.

01:30:26.000 And the future of the Democrat Party is really all over the place.

01:30:29.000 It's whether or not they decide to go the leftist or more moderate route.

01:30:32.000 There's other interests in the Democrat Party, but there are major realignments.

01:30:36.000 We're also seeing, you know, some extremes or fringes of both parties kind of agreeing with the opposite side.

01:30:43.000 So, for example, many leftists are agreeing with many of the libertarian types on the right.

01:30:48.000 So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out in a decade, two decades, and how the parties realign in that way.

01:30:54.000 Indeed.

01:30:56.000 Let's go to Super Chats.

01:30:58.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know, and become a member over at TimCast.com.

01:31:05.000 My friends, it's Wednesday.

01:31:06.000 We've got tomorrow here in the studio, and then Friday, of course, we are going to be flying out to Arizona for AmFest for the final show of the year on stage in front of thousands of people.

01:31:18.000 Ah!

01:31:19.000 That's right.

01:31:20.000 Shout out to Charlie Kirk and TPUSA for having us out for the third year.

01:31:26.000 They really do go above and beyond to get us on board and make the show possible.

01:31:31.000 So I really do appreciate it because it's exciting to be a part of.

01:31:33.000 It's exciting to be there.

01:31:35.000 They have the smoke come out and they introduce you as you walk on stage.

01:31:38.000 There's a video playing.

01:31:40.000 They really make you feel good.

01:31:41.000 And it's going to be fun to be there.

01:31:43.000 I might wear a jacket.

01:31:44.000 A jacket?

01:31:45.000 Wow.

01:31:45.000 Yeah.

01:31:46.000 Charlie Kirk is a potent political force.

01:31:48.000 I foresee that guy running for president down the line.

01:31:52.000 He's a very potent force in the Republican Party.

01:31:54.000 That dude's got energy.

01:31:55.000 He's got something going on.

01:31:56.000 He's doing a lot of things right.

01:31:58.000 Passion.

01:31:59.000 Smash that like button, my friends, and we're going to read your super chats.

01:32:02.000 What do we got here?

01:32:03.000 Robert Delacruz says, why is no one super chatting?

01:32:06.000 But you, sir, did.

01:32:07.000 So you were.

01:32:09.000 Hal Gailey says, crime requires a victim.

01:32:11.000 The left lane is for hurting the government's feelings. 0.94

01:32:14.000 They love writing tickets for their butt hurt. 0.83

01:32:16.000 Alright, fine.

01:32:17.000 You know, I was driving in the left lane, committing no crimes.

01:32:21.000 And I got pulled over.

01:32:22.000 And I got a ticket.

01:32:23.000 And you know what the ticket was for?

01:32:25.000 Driving in the left lane.

01:32:27.000 I'm sorry that you got a ticket, but actually I'm happy that there are police out there.

01:32:31.000 As a Jersey kid, you should have known better.

01:32:33.000 I am not a Jersey kid.

01:32:34.000 Aren't you from a Jersey kid?

01:32:35.000 No, I'm from Chicago.

01:32:38.000 No, I didn't do anything illegal, and this is why so many people...

01:32:41.000 You did live in Jersey, though.

01:32:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:45.000 I'm sure you learned what our laws are.

01:32:47.000 In New Jersey, you cannot drive in the left lane.

01:32:49.000 You can't do it anywhere, apparently.

01:32:50.000 It wasn't like I was driving the left lane for an hour.

01:32:52.000 I got into the left lane.

01:32:53.000 I was there for a couple minutes, and then a cop pulled me over, and I was like, is there a problem?

01:32:57.000 And I was like, yeah, I had just passed somebody.

01:32:57.000 He's like, you're in the left lane.

01:33:00.000 I didn't get over.

01:33:01.000 And he's like, well, you weren't there too long.

01:33:03.000 Was that recently?

01:33:04.000 No, this was 15 years ago.

01:33:07.000 And then they took my license from me.

01:33:09.000 15 years ago, the world's completely different now.

01:33:12.000 Is that how bad the super chats are?

01:33:14.000 No, it's Phil saying the left lane is for crime.

01:33:17.000 I too have been accused of a crime in the left lane.

01:33:19.000 For simply being in the left lane.

01:33:21.000 We'll get there, Ron.

01:33:22.000 Alright, alright, let's go, let's go.

01:33:24.000 Kieran the Meat Man says, we need a show with Ian and either Phil or Grumpy Old Man where they talk about graphene and spiritual power, etc.

01:33:31.000 It could be comedic gold.

01:33:35.000 I feel like any podcast with Ian is a valuable show because it's entertaining.

01:33:41.000 Like, there's a lot of people who hate on Ian, but they need to understand that if you enter into the show understanding who and what Ian is, you enjoy it.

01:33:52.000 But there are a lot of people who are very serious.

01:33:54.000 So when Ian asks something that doesn't seem to make sense or they don't understand it, they get angry because they want a very serious top-level Atlantic accent conversation.

01:34:05.000 And then Ian might say something weird like, it feels good to stick your finger in a cow's mouth, which is one of his most famous quotes in the show.

01:34:11.000 He told that to Elijah Schaefer and Sidney, and it was very funny.

01:34:17.000 But I agree that if you were to get Ian on a show with, you know, anybody, I think Ben Shapiro and Ian would be hilarious.

01:34:24.000 Oh, that would be...

01:34:25.000 That's matter meets anti-matter.

01:34:27.000 Could you imagine Ben just being really frustrated and being like, Ian, I don't know what to say.

01:34:33.000 You know, I think that'd be hilarious.

01:34:35.000 All right, all right.

01:34:35.000 Ian is kind of all feeling, isn't he?

01:34:38.000 Emotes.

01:34:38.000 Yeah.

01:34:39.000 Everything is kind of an emote.

01:34:41.000 I know he has a lot of out there ideas.

01:34:43.000 He's not the only one, but I will say this.

01:34:45.000 He's one of the best, youngest looking 40 some odd year old men that I know.

01:34:50.000 He's 50. He's 50. And when you look at the guy, it's like, I don't know, Graphene, I don't know what you're eating, juice you're drinking, but he's doing something right.

01:34:58.000 The first time I saw him, I thought he was younger than me.

01:35:00.000 I'm 31. He looks like a young guy.

01:35:04.000 Something.

01:35:05.000 Maybe it's the genes.

01:35:05.000 The lack of sun.

01:35:07.000 Something.

01:35:08.000 He's doing a lot of things.

01:35:08.000 I'm not joking.

01:35:10.000 I just can't pinpoint...

01:35:11.000 It's the sun?

01:35:12.000 Yeah, so you can actually look at the images of...

01:35:15.000 There's a famous photo of twins.

01:35:18.000 One worked in the sun and one drove a truck.

01:35:21.000 And you can see the person who worked outside, their skin is really damaged and old. 1.00

01:35:25.000 He just has this youthful glow, that guy.

01:35:27.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:35:29.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I went to the dentist.

01:35:31.000 He wanted to fix my tooth abscess or I could die.

01:35:33.000 I told him to shove off.

01:35:35.000 He must not know that I'm proudly mouth positive.

01:35:38.000 Yeah, it's in reference to the body positivity movement.

01:35:41.000 Because I was talking about San Francisco hired that fat activist, and she says, you have the right to remain fat. 1.00

01:35:46.000 And I'm like, you do, but you'll die. 0.93

01:35:48.000 I think you have a right to be out of shape.

01:35:51.000 Anybody wants to be.

01:35:52.000 And I have a right to shame you.

01:35:53.000 So be it.

01:35:54.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr., we're doubling the fluoride in your water to make your teeth better.

01:36:01.000 I'm sneaking it in your stuff.

01:36:03.000 Okay.

01:36:04.000 Buddy says first.

01:36:06.000 LOL. Bro, you are so far from first.

01:36:08.000 Sixth.

01:36:09.000 Fifth.

01:36:10.000 All right.

01:36:11.000 V Bent says stop funding Palestine, stop funding Ukraine, stop funding Israel.

01:36:16.000 I think America is best off funding America, but I have an idea.

01:36:19.000 Guys, I want to give Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, I want to give them a trillion dollars.

01:36:30.000 I propose this bill be put forward by all Republican members of Congress and Democrats, if they're interested, where we pledge $1 trillion each.

01:36:42.000 So long as we've secured our border, got a job for all the people who are struggling to get work after we've solved the health care problems, after the unemployment level is stable at a certain amount for a certain amount of years, after we've ended any trade disagreements, ratified treaties, withdrawn our troops from all these other countries. ratified treaties, withdrawn our troops from all these other countries.

01:37:00.000 Once we've solved all of our problems in this country and we have extra money lying around, maybe then the conversation can be had about whether or not we give that money away.

01:37:09.000 But we cannot be a country with a problem of crime, with a problem of infrastructure failing, with a porous border, that at the same time as there are hurricane victims in North Carolina, we are giving our money away.

01:37:21.000 Let me just ask you a hypothetical question.

01:37:24.000 What if, and I had no problem with cutting off the foreign aid, including to Israel.

01:37:29.000 I think it's the worst thing for countries to become dependent on foreign aid.

01:37:33.000 And it's bad for the relationships, all the things.

01:37:37.000 If I told you I could solve the border crisis by giving $50 million to Mexico, let's just say $50 million would solve that problem.

01:37:50.000 How?

01:37:50.000 No, no, no.

01:37:51.000 No deal.

01:37:56.000 Okay, how about this?

01:37:57.000 Or we can spend $100 million in taxes.

01:38:01.000 Okay, here's a pitch for you.

01:38:02.000 I can give you $100, or you can give me $100, and I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.

01:38:08.000 So you're refusing to accept my hypothetical.

01:38:08.000 I don't know.

01:38:14.000 You're saying it could never be the case.

01:38:20.000 I'm not.

01:38:20.000 I'm saying if you're going to tell me for $50 million being given to Mexico, it would solve the border crisis, and I say, how?

01:38:27.000 And you don't give me an answer, the answer will be no.

01:38:31.000 In other words, you can't answer the hypothetical.

01:38:34.000 What if I said $5 billion?

01:38:40.000 Maybe there's a misunderstanding.

01:38:42.000 If anyone comes to me and says, I propose a plan to solve this crisis, my plan involves giving X amount of dollars to a foreign country, I say, and what will that do?

01:38:52.000 I don't care what you're asking money for.

01:38:55.000 I'm always going to ask you, what does the money go towards?

01:38:56.000 If your hypothetical is, you have a plan that we all looked at and go, wow, that's going to solve the problem.

01:39:02.000 Yes.

01:39:02.000 Right.

01:39:03.000 Then it would be worth it.

01:39:04.000 Yes.

01:39:05.000 So that's the problem.

01:39:07.000 When you say we need to solve all our problems before we spend a penny overseas, there are American interests that are affected by I think right now our spending overseas is like a drunken sailor. 0.98

01:39:24.000 And the cultural warfare and the woke crap that the State Department has been trying to import into other countries, especially countries with traditional cultures, is disgusting. 0.98

01:39:38.000 And it's the height of arrogance and ugly Americanism. 0.99

01:39:42.000 But, there are smart ways to use foreign aid.

01:39:48.000 Agreed.

01:39:49.000 Okay, we can all go home.

01:39:49.000 Yeah.

01:39:51.000 I believe that properly appropriated foreign aid can actually avoid war.

01:39:56.000 It can stop us from needing to launch incursions into foreign countries.

01:40:01.000 Trade agreements, diplomacy, and the path towards wealth can be done effectively.

01:40:05.000 I think that's economic diplomacy.

01:40:08.000 And so my point wasn't that we cut off all foreign aid, period.

01:40:11.000 It's if you want to give Ukraine $250 billion, I'm sorry, not when there's hurricane victims.

01:40:18.000 But if there's a proposal for a budget per year and we can talk about what the number is supposed to be...

01:40:22.000 I mean, the lack of accountability to money that's gone to Ukraine is the scandal of the baby brand new century.

01:40:31.000 The blank check, it's just...

01:40:35.000 You'd think it was like a Chicago school board or something, you know?

01:40:37.000 I mean...

01:40:39.000 All right.

01:40:40.000 Wyatt Caldenberg says, Tim, why do so many right-wing YouTube influencers act like my 1950s gossipy grandmother on her party line phone? 1.00

01:40:48.000 It's embarrassing and childish.

01:40:51.000 You know, I was thinking about this because I look at analytics every day.

01:40:55.000 In other words, you understood that question.

01:40:57.000 Yes.

01:40:59.000 I check analytics.

01:41:00.000 I look at competition.

01:41:02.000 I look at other channels.

01:41:03.000 I try and figure out what generates higher view counts and what are people interested in.

01:41:09.000 I want to know what's going on.

01:41:11.000 However, I will only ever record a segment if I'm interested in talking about what the segment is.

01:41:17.000 Because I don't write scripts.

01:41:18.000 I don't pre-plan arguments.

01:41:20.000 I literally see stories that I'm interested in and I'll put them together and then I'll press record because I want to express myself, which is why yesterday I only had four instead of six because it was a drastically slow news day and I was like, I'm not going to try and just press record for the sake of press record.

01:41:33.000 It's not going to happen.

01:41:34.000 However, many of these other big YouTubers don't have membership programs.

01:41:39.000 See, as a Timcast member, I don't really have to worry about loss of revenue from not doing videos on a regular schedule.

01:41:44.000 I used to four years ago.

01:41:45.000 We launched the member program.

01:41:47.000 And as I've long said, you guys as members give me the opportunity to actually try and do good work.

01:41:53.000 Because before, if you got sick and you didn't produce a YouTube video, that money was just And that means you can't pay the bills.

01:41:59.000 That's scary.

01:42:00.000 So these other YouTubers who are going full gossip, I'm not going to do it.

01:42:04.000 Unless it's something I'm truly passionate about.

01:42:06.000 You know, I was talking about the Brett Cooper contract because I love talking media contracts.

01:42:09.000 I love the inner workings of the media industry and the lying, the cheating, the stealing, and all the dirty stuff that goes on in these big corporate news outlets.

01:42:15.000 But a lot of these YouTubers on the right are now looking at the abject failures of the Democratic Party.

01:42:21.000 And there's very little left to even talk about.

01:42:24.000 It's...

01:42:25.000 Nancy Pelosi has been thwarted.

01:42:27.000 Now it's serious when she broke her hip because mortality rates for an 84-year-old who broke their hip, it's around 30% within a year.

01:42:34.000 That's terrifying.

01:42:35.000 I hope Nancy will be okay, but, you know, she's old. 0.98

01:42:38.000 That's relevant, I think, we're talking about.

01:42:40.000 But there's no longer this big conflict.

01:42:42.000 There's no more the Democrats have tried to pull a fast one.

01:42:45.000 They were crushed.

01:42:45.000 No, they lost.

01:42:46.000 Just absolutely crushed.

01:42:48.000 So for a lot of these influencers and YouTubers who built up a political brand, what are they going to talk about?

01:42:52.000 That's why I think there's going to be identity crisis on the right.

01:42:55.000 And you're going to start seeing people on the right choose their point, right?

01:42:58.000 RFK. Everybody loves RFK Jr. Trump is winning.

01:43:02.000 Now?

01:43:02.000 He's pro-choice.

01:43:04.000 Why are we supporting this guy?

01:43:05.000 Because they won.

01:43:07.000 Now they can open the door to the criticisms that won't hurt their chances in the White House.

01:43:12.000 Attacking RFK Jr. before the election, you run the risk of hurting Trump.

01:43:15.000 Trump's in, it's guaranteed.

01:43:17.000 Now we're going to try and move RFK Jr. on the issue of abortion, which means right-wingers are going to start talking about right-wingers more often.

01:43:22.000 The left is going to get a bunch of money from corporate interests, and in six to eight months they're going to invest heavily in these sophists, and they're going to come back with a vengeance.

01:43:31.000 There you go.

01:43:32.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:43:33.000 I hope I'm wrong.

01:43:33.000 I don't know.

01:43:34.000 I hope the right just wins and everyone celebrates.

01:43:38.000 Viewership on right-leaning channels has been way up.

01:43:41.000 Viewership on left-leaning channels has been way down.

01:43:43.000 Once you win, not only viewership, but subscriber.

01:43:47.000 People are losing massive numbers of subscribers.

01:43:51.000 On the left.

01:43:51.000 Yeah.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, on the right, not so much.

01:43:54.000 So I track this stuff because this is the industry.

01:43:56.000 I love looking at what people are doing.

01:43:58.000 And I looked at a bunch of conservative channels, and they have a slow growth since November.

01:44:02.000 Very small growth on average.

01:44:03.000 You'll see right-wing channels.

01:44:05.000 Most leftist channels after November, their view counts dropped by 40%.

01:44:09.000 Their subscribers dropped by, you know, 80%.

01:44:12.000 And they're actually weighed down.

01:44:14.000 It's kind of crazy.

01:44:15.000 So that, I have trouble understanding.

01:44:18.000 Were they, was it a coping mechanism?

01:44:22.000 Yeah.

01:44:22.000 And now it no longer satisfies because they lost.

01:44:26.000 In other words, why would you watch someone who's saying the same thing now that he said six weeks ago?

01:44:32.000 Why were you watching him six weeks ago?

01:44:34.000 Because you thought he was going to be right?

01:44:36.000 Well, so there's a critique of David Pakman right now that I think is interesting where Alina Hava had a mundane interview.

01:44:43.000 It was boring.

01:44:44.000 And Patman got critiqued because he basically took this boring and mundane interview and then cut it and then spoke as if it was a shocking bad thing.

01:44:59.000 Basically, imagine Donald Trump saying, today I'm going to go have McDonald's and then maybe see my family.

01:45:05.000 And then you get a liberal going, Donald Trump, unhealthy, wasting time, taking the day off because there's nothing to complain about anymore.

01:45:17.000 This is what they're doing.

01:45:19.000 Me, I'm just like, guys, it's sometimes okay just not to make the video, I guess.

01:45:24.000 But I think a lot of these people are scared and desperate.

01:45:26.000 I'm not as much so.

01:45:27.000 Look, the other day, I was sitting here, and I stayed way late, and I had to exercise, and I'm sitting here like, there's literally nothing.

01:45:36.000 What we call these days, granular.

01:45:38.000 A lot of little stories, nothing really moves the needle.

01:45:41.000 So what this is, is news outlets have little to write about, so they rewrite existing stories and you get a whole bunch of stories that add like 2% of the information back into a story we already saw.

01:45:52.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:45:55.000 You know, back in the day, the BBC would famously run an image on the screen saying there is no news, and it would just show, like, the flag, the British flag.

01:46:02.000 Really?

01:46:03.000 I didn't know that, yeah.

01:46:04.000 That is what I heard.

01:46:05.000 But now it's like, no, no, no, no, you absolutely have to have news no matter what.

01:46:08.000 Here we are.

01:46:09.000 When I was a kid, you'd watch TV until they ran out of TV, and then there would be what they called a test pattern.

01:46:17.000 Yes, that's right.

01:46:18.000 I remember those, three in the morning.

01:46:21.000 Or they would play the Star-Spangled Banner.

01:46:21.000 That was it.

01:46:24.000 Yep.

01:46:25.000 And that was civilization's way of telling you it's time to go.

01:46:30.000 This is the early 90s.

01:46:31.000 Right.

01:46:32.000 In the early 90s, you'd fall asleep with the TV on and wake up to the test pattern, just showing all the colors and static...

01:46:40.000 I used to try and watch Tales from the Crypt when I was little, but it would come on at like 11, and I'd fall asleep at like 9, because I was like 7 or something.

01:46:47.000 And then I'd just wake up to the...

01:46:48.000 or whatever.

01:46:50.000 Good times!

01:46:50.000 You know?

01:46:51.000 Yeah.

01:46:52.000 Back in the day.

01:46:53.000 Go through the six channels that you could receive, you know, and give up on the UHF, and say, okay, I guess I'm going to have to read the comics.

01:47:01.000 All right.

01:47:02.000 Grofty says, a chicken knows when to buck buck, and when to hold the buck buck buck.

01:47:07.000 Chicken City is, I'm telling you guys, chickencitylive.com.

01:47:12.000 Because what you've got to understand about Chicken City, it's ASMR. You're at work, right?

01:47:17.000 Let's say you're on the 30th floor of some Manhattan skyscraper, and the only sound you hear is the hum of the air ventilation blowing over your head, and you're sitting there with bags under your eyes, doing another TPS report.

01:47:31.000 Man, life.

01:47:33.000 But then, you look at your computer...

01:47:37.000 And the light bulb appears.

01:47:38.000 You type in chickencitylive.com and the live stream pops up.

01:47:42.000 And what do you hear?

01:47:43.000 You hear rain, wind.

01:47:46.000 You hear buck, buck, buck.

01:47:48.000 And now you are in nature.

01:47:50.000 And those noises are soothing to the human soul.

01:47:53.000 And that, folks, is the story behind the merger.

01:47:56.000 The acquisition of TimCast by Chicken City.

01:48:01.000 Actually, people don't understand this.

01:48:02.000 The parent company of TimCast is actually Chicken City.

01:48:05.000 And I was...

01:48:06.000 Difficult negotiations with Roberto, but ultimately he agreed.

01:48:09.000 And our principal source of funding for everything we do is the chickens.

01:48:14.000 The Super Chats from the Chicken City is about $800,000 per month in Super Chats just for the chickens.

01:48:20.000 And they are fat and happy.

01:48:21.000 It is passed through Russian. 0.95

01:48:25.000 I said Soviet. 0.86

01:48:26.000 No, it is Soviet.

01:48:27.000 Yeah, they still exist.

01:48:28.000 They're on the moon, though.

01:48:32.000 But Trump set it up, you know, because he's been a Soviet agent since the 80s.

01:48:36.000 A Soviet asset. 0.70

01:48:38.000 Indeed he has.

01:48:39.000 Still waiting for the pee tape. 0.86

01:48:41.000 Amber Black says, Is it bad I want the Groypers banned from X only because they're so freaking annoying? 1.00

01:48:47.000 They're pretty annoying in the chat, too.

01:48:50.000 Well, I did a poll, though.

01:48:51.000 I did a poll, so don't worry.

01:48:53.000 I did a poll on X, and I said Israel or Palestine.

01:48:56.000 It's at 75% Israel, 25% Palestine with 17,000 votes.

01:49:01.000 17,000 votes.

01:49:03.000 So I love doing it.

01:49:04.000 It's funny because...

01:49:05.000 That was a few weeks ago, right?

01:49:06.000 The poll?

01:49:07.000 I literally just did it right now.

01:49:08.000 You just did it?

01:49:09.000 Oh, because you did that once before, though.

01:49:10.000 Yes.

01:49:11.000 And it always ends up with the same proportions of, you know, large support for Israel.

01:49:15.000 And I think it's funny because I didn't say anything.

01:49:16.000 I didn't say who you support.

01:49:18.000 I just literally posted Israel, Palestine.

01:49:19.000 You click them on.

01:49:20.000 Can you believe that you do a poll sometimes and people think they're being really clever.

01:49:24.000 Neither one! 0.96

01:49:26.000 I hate them both! 0.99

01:49:27.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:49:28.000 That's all there is.

01:49:29.000 Yep.

01:49:30.000 Save yourself.

01:49:31.000 Well, Michael Malice famously adds to all of his polls a question where it's like, I can't comprehend, you know, choice.

01:49:40.000 Yeah.

01:49:42.000 Good. 0.55

01:49:43.000 But it's funny because what they do is the people who the first thing I'll say is they're liars, largely.

01:49:43.000 Call them out.

01:49:53.000 My position on Israel is largely like slightly positive.

01:49:58.000 You know, it's like I don't really know or care that much.

01:50:00.000 I've been there before.

01:50:01.000 I understand the criticisms of their military actions and the government, all this stuff.

01:50:01.000 It was all right.

01:50:05.000 I think, you know, if you want to criticize the Israeli government, fine, as long as you understand foreign policy and it's not your whole identity.

01:50:11.000 And so I criticize what I call Israel derangement syndrome. 0.79

01:50:15.000 And that is when someone's whole identity only exists around Israel, which is insane. 0.92

01:50:19.000 For example, we had a journalist on the show and one of our callers asked about the fentanyl crisis in West Virginia.

01:50:26.000 And within 30 seconds, he was talking about Israel again.

01:50:29.000 And I said, my guy, we are talking about West Virginia.

01:50:33.000 And he tried to justify why we had to talk about Israel in the context of opiates in West Virginia.

01:50:38.000 And I was just like, OK, dude, like that's Israel derangement syndrome. 0.79

01:50:42.000 Now, what happens is the people who suffer from Israel derangement syndrome don't like that.

01:50:46.000 They don't like that that's been identified.

01:50:49.000 So what they do is they counter by saying, Tim thinks all criticism of Israel is Israel derangement syndrome, to try and do an inverse.

01:50:57.000 No, we've done a lot of shows where Luke's been critical of military actions by Israel, and we've had Dave Smith on and Clint Russell and Josie, and we've talked about the libertarian positions pertaining to whether we fund Israel, whether their actions are justified.

01:51:09.000 I think having a conversation about our military allies and the actions they take is 100% justified.

01:51:14.000 What I think is absolutely psychotic is when someone then says...

01:51:18.000 But you know, Israel controls the United States. 0.67

01:51:22.000 And I'm like, then why are we giving more money to Ukraine?

01:51:25.000 Well, it's because Israel wants Ukraine to have the money, not Israel.

01:51:30.000 I just...

01:51:31.000 I'm like, my dude, we have given more money to Ukraine than we've given to...

01:51:34.000 More money to Ukraine in two years than we've given to Israel in 50?

01:51:37.000 Yeah.

01:51:37.000 Like, the U... Ukraine...

01:51:40.000 The U.S. clearly has its interests.

01:51:43.000 But...

01:51:44.000 Largely, my point ultimately is why these polls are funny, is it's an internet hive.

01:51:50.000 And so what they'll try to do is they'll bombard people with these comments, dislikes, etc., in an effort, or the chat, in an effort to convince them the audience actually supports one idea over the other.

01:52:03.000 Sock puppetry. 0.71

01:52:04.000 Well, fortunately, I'm not an idiot, nor am I weak-willed, so I don't care if the audience is going to spam, you know, anti-Semitic or anti-Israel things. 0.93

01:52:13.000 I'm drawing a distinction between the two. 0.87

01:52:14.000 I have a view on the matter that's not going to change based on the audience yelling.

01:52:18.000 So what ends up happening then is I post a poll.

01:52:21.000 Israel-Palestine.

01:52:22.000 Look at that!

01:52:24.000 75% says Israel.

01:52:25.000 I didn't say anything about the country otherwise.

01:52:28.000 The people who are spamming and saying Jews and yarmulke or whatever are a fringe minority that are trying to play an audience manipulation game to trick these weak-willed commentators into switching into a narrative about Israel and Jews that is unpopular and wrong.

01:52:46.000 And a lot of these creators and a lot of these individuals on the internet are so weak-willed that the moment they see that they get 200,000 likes on one of these posts or views or whatever, not likes, they immediately think, I'm going to do more of this.

01:52:58.000 And there have been a series of influencers who had good ideas and were conservatives and were on X, started posting more and more unhinged things where today you look at their profile and the only thing they have to talk about is Jews. 0.75

01:53:11.000 And I'm like, that is called audience capture, manipulation, and those are weak-willed people. 0.95

01:53:17.000 Extremely weak-willed people.

01:53:19.000 Tim, thank you very much.

01:53:21.000 Here's your bison stick. 1.00

01:53:23.000 Oh, thank you.

01:53:23.000 Just make sure you sign the check before you go.

01:53:25.000 No, that was a bison stick performance.

01:53:29.000 The check is, of course, for the entire episode.

01:53:31.000 What people don't know is, while Chicken City is the parent company of Tim Cast IRL, it's funded by Mossad.

01:53:36.000 Well, of course.

01:53:39.000 Anyway!

01:53:40.000 Alright, let's go.

01:53:43.000 Slavkai says, for every Hasan Piker they prop up, we'll have two Sam Hides ready.

01:53:49.000 Also, try to get Sam Hide to do a culture war with Dave Landau.

01:53:53.000 That would be hilarious.

01:53:55.000 Heavens me.

01:53:56.000 We are trying to do more with Culture War, Men in the Street, On the Ground stuff.

01:54:00.000 So a lot of...

01:54:01.000 I actually did a video.

01:54:02.000 It got like 45,000, 50,000 views, I think.

01:54:04.000 Did pretty well.

01:54:05.000 We just need to have them consistently rolling, so we'll figure that out.

01:54:08.000 I think it's going to be good.

01:54:09.000 There's a lot to talk to the regular folk about.

01:54:12.000 You know, originally, Timcast IRL was supposed to be that.

01:54:15.000 I was going to do the...

01:54:16.000 Yeah, the idea was I would do the morning show, and then if I got done early, I would...

01:54:22.000 I built the van.

01:54:23.000 The van.

01:54:24.000 With solar panels and everything, and then I would go to, say, like, a university and pull up a table and be like...

01:54:28.000 Let's talk about the news of the day.

01:54:30.000 And the podcast was supposed to be in real life with regular people, but then COVID happened.

01:54:34.000 So here we are instead in a studio show with recurring guests and things like that, which is kind of the opposite of what it was supposed to be.

01:54:41.000 That being said, though, we don't do any digital interviews.

01:54:44.000 I'm glad you explained that, because I've been on TimCast in real life, I think, four or five times now.

01:54:51.000 And every time I come here, I'm wondering where the real life part is.

01:54:55.000 Well, we're sitting here in front of each other.

01:54:57.000 Yes, and for us it's real life.

01:54:58.000 Yes.

01:54:59.000 But none of these people realize that just as the moon landing was an elaborate hoax, we've all been in bed for hours.

01:55:06.000 We're actually in Tel Aviv right now.

01:55:08.000 But of course...

01:55:10.000 I thought that the moon landing was actually when they installed the space laser, the Jewish space laser. 0.89

01:55:16.000 Well, the reason why when you look out the windows you can see metal framing is because we're actually in a sound stage in Israel.

01:55:24.000 In the undivided capital of Jerusalem.

01:55:26.000 Which you can, by the way, if you climb up to the top, you can see West Virginia from here because the earth is flat.

01:55:33.000 And we have a telescope.

01:55:33.000 That's right.

01:55:35.000 Just, you know.

01:55:36.000 No, what's, uh...

01:55:38.000 What's the single one called?

01:55:40.000 A monoscope?

01:55:42.000 No, it's a telescope and a binocular, so it is a telescope.

01:55:44.000 It is a telescope?

01:55:45.000 Oh, okay.

01:55:46.000 Like the thing the pirates would use when they go like that?

01:55:48.000 That was still just a telescope?

01:55:49.000 Oh, okay.

01:55:50.000 Well, there you go.

01:55:50.000 Telescope.

01:55:52.000 Spyglass.

01:55:52.000 Did you guys see the flat earthers went to Antarctica and discovered the Earth was round?

01:55:56.000 That was epic.

01:55:57.000 That's a lot of traveling to figure out that the Earth's round.

01:56:02.000 I admire them for going through with it and then saying, oh no, we were actually wrong, instead of, oh, we did something wrong, or our measurement tools are incorrect.

01:56:10.000 They got to Antarctica, where they were met by the Mossad, who paid them off to say that the Earth was round.

01:56:16.000 So you admit it.

01:56:17.000 Of course!

01:56:18.000 You can't do anything about it anymore!

01:56:20.000 We control everything!

01:56:22.000 Even the simulation of criticism of Mossad, that's all a PSYOP! So, there's actually no opposition at all to Israel.

01:56:30.000 That's a PSYOP. And all support is actually a PSYOP. Most people just don't even know what's going on or care.

01:56:35.000 That's right.

01:56:37.000 It's a PR campaign.

01:56:39.000 Alright, alright, alright.

01:56:40.000 What do we have here?

01:56:43.000 Let's see.

01:56:44.000 Trudolph says, cartoonist was killed in France for drawing Mohammed.

01:56:49.000 Again?

01:56:50.000 Or is that the old story?

01:56:53.000 I'll look up and figure that out.

01:56:54.000 I don't know.

01:56:55.000 Another Charlie Hebdo type situation.

01:56:58.000 Yeah.

01:56:59.000 What have we here? 0.99

01:57:00.000 The Realtor staff says, Fookink Ridiculous. 0.91

01:57:04.000 For the amount of time it took the countless numbers of staffers to write 1,500 pages of ish, they could have just written an actual budget. 0.95

01:57:10.000 Doge to the moon, please.

01:57:12.000 Yup.

01:57:13.000 Yeah, it's on porpoise.

01:57:15.000 Yeah.

01:57:16.000 Speaking of porpoises, we got to swim with the manatees this past weekend.

01:57:22.000 Yeah, in Florida.

01:57:23.000 That's sick.

01:57:24.000 When we went down the next day.

01:57:27.000 So I don't much care to swim with the manatees, but Richie and Allison jumped in, and we had this little guide.

01:57:34.000 And this manatee was basically going to them and hanging out because it wanted belly rubs. 0.78

01:57:41.000 That's hilarious.

01:57:42.000 And then when we were like, time to go, it swam over, and it wouldn't let one of the tour guides leave because she was giving it belly rubs.

01:57:50.000 Yeah, it is fun.

01:57:52.000 The manatees are big, doofy, slow things.

01:57:54.000 They can go fast, though.

01:57:55.000 But they are fun.

01:57:56.000 Sea cows.

01:57:58.000 Alright, what is this?

01:57:59.000 What is, uh...

01:58:03.000 Ian Slater says Mazel Tov for tonight's episode.

01:58:05.000 Not Jewish, but have my yarmulke on standby in solidarity.

01:58:08.000 Did Ben and Jerry set this up?

01:58:10.000 I mean, Ben and Jeremy.

01:58:12.000 Sorry, it wasn't the ice cream thing.

01:58:13.000 No, those are actually Palestinian guys. 0.96

01:58:16.000 The Jews who hate Israel kind of guys, because they live... 1.00

01:58:21.000 Oh, yeah, Ben. 0.53

01:58:22.000 I thought you were talking about Ben and Jeremy.

01:58:24.000 I was like, those guys are Palestinians?

01:58:25.000 That's right.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, no.

01:58:26.000 I once met a guy who was a fan of the show, and then he asked me something about if I thought...

01:58:33.000 Something about lizard people.

01:58:36.000 He was like, yeah, I think Trump's going to win.

01:58:38.000 It's really great.

01:58:38.000 But I'm concerned about the like the reptilians.

01:58:42.000 And I was like, is this a joke?

01:58:45.000 And then he started saying a bunch of wacky stuff.

01:58:48.000 And I'm like, man, there are people out there who fall for anything.

01:58:53.000 Yep.

01:58:54.000 That's scary.

01:58:55.000 So I mean, but what so what did he mean?

01:58:58.000 I have no idea.

01:58:59.000 Okay.

01:59:00.000 He thought Hillary Clinton was a lizard or something and Trump was fighting. 0.82

01:59:03.000 I don't know if he's just being derogatory like Chuck Schumer is a reptile figuratively or literally.

01:59:07.000 He was talking about how he was watching Q and then started reading into it and he's concerned that the reptilians aren't going to let Trump win. 0.88

01:59:15.000 And I was like, you mean like lizard people?

01:59:17.000 And he was like, well, yeah.

01:59:19.000 And I'm just like, it's hard for me to believe that there are people out there who actually think these things that are walking around like living a normal life.

01:59:26.000 But that's the internet for you.

01:59:29.000 They all have equal say on the internet too.

01:59:31.000 The person who you're arguing with on the internet believes that reptiles run our government.

01:59:36.000 Yep.

01:59:38.000 Alright, what is this?

01:59:40.000 I don't know what that means.

01:59:43.000 Alright, we'll read one more here.

01:59:45.000 Check out Richard Barris' The People's Pundit podcast from today.

01:59:48.000 He revealed that more people seem to have found spirituality very interesting.

01:59:51.000 Indeed.

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02:00:44.000 Yes.

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