Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - EPSTEIN Court Documents Dropping, FL Passes Bill To Drop ALL GRAND JURY Docs | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 So this is wild.

00:00:21.000 Florida has passed a bill to release all of the Epstein grand jury documents from 2006 and Ron DeSantis announced he will be signing this into law and they will immediately release all of these Epstein documents from the initial original charges against them.

00:00:38.000 It was a bill put forward by a Democrat, I believe, and unanimously approved.

00:00:43.000 So this is going to be massive.

00:00:44.000 We definitely have to leave talking about this, but we do have a lot of other news.

00:00:47.000 Donald Trump's SEC got SEC approval for the DWAC merger.

00:00:52.000 This means Trump is going to become $4 billion richer.

00:00:56.000 TruthSocial will be valued at about 10 billion dollars.

00:00:59.000 This is massive.

00:01:00.000 So all the haters gonna hate, but doesn't matter because Trump is, he's tripling his net worth right now.

00:01:05.000 They can try and do, they can do everything they want to him.

00:01:08.000 It seems like a lot of the moves they're making against him not only advance their crackpot ideology, but also tie up Trump's funds in an election year where he needs them.

00:01:17.000 That seems to be the big issue.

00:01:18.000 Now Trump has mentioned When Engeron, the judge in his case, said $354 million plus $100 million in interest, it looks as though he looked at Trump's bank account and said, I want all of your money.

00:01:29.000 Because that's basically what the ruling is.

00:01:31.000 All of Trump's available cash on hand is what they're fining him for, which is an arbitrary number that comes from nowhere.

00:01:36.000 So it seems like that's what they're trying to do with this dwag deal. 0.99

00:01:39.000 Trump's gonna be doing pretty alright, but we'll see.

00:01:43.000 And then we got big news.

00:01:45.000 7.3 million illegal immigrants entering the country and a lot of stuff around that we're gonna get into.

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00:04:04.000 Now, we typically have these Monday through Thursday at 10 p.m.

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00:04:10.000 Our guest is a superstar with a busy schedule, but we're very, very grateful that he's here.

00:04:14.000 Kirk Cameron is joining us tonight.

00:04:16.000 Kirk, how you doing?

00:04:17.000 Hey man, I'm doing great.

00:04:18.000 Well, you're a superstar.

00:04:19.000 I was getting excited.

00:04:20.000 I just wanted to see who you'd have on the show.

00:04:21.000 Who's coming in?

00:04:22.000 It's you!

00:04:22.000 Who's coming in?

00:04:23.000 It's Mike Seaver!

00:04:25.000 Yeah.

00:04:26.000 Bro, you're not old enough to even know who Mike Seaver is.

00:04:29.000 Yes, I do!

00:04:30.000 Really?

00:04:30.000 Yeah, I mean, I was probably too young to remember.

00:04:33.000 You have a baby face, that's why you have the beard.

00:04:35.000 All right, you're older than I thought.

00:04:36.000 Well, I was born in 86.

00:04:38.000 All right.

00:04:38.000 Growing pains started when, I see, 84.

00:04:41.000 I was like 14.

00:04:41.000 Yeah, I was not alive.

00:04:44.000 Maybe I was a banana or something, and then my dad and my mom ate the banana, and then, you know, the rest is magic, I guess.

00:04:51.000 But yeah, of course, growing pains, man.

00:04:53.000 And so, but we're really glad you're here and we know that you're working on a new show with Brave Books.

00:04:58.000 Yeah, thank you for having me.

00:05:01.000 Yeah, I've been writing books with Brave Books for the last year or so and mixing it up with Drag Queens and the American Library Association and even Scholastic Books and trying to get Parents and grandparents fired up about taking back the leadership role in their kids' education.

00:05:19.000 I think education is critically important and as a father and soon to be grandfather, I want to lean in and do my part to do everything that we can to save this culture for our kids.

00:05:28.000 Yeah, I mean, and that's why we're really excited to have you and we wanted to have you for a while because one big issue in the culture war, of course, is the drag story hours.

00:05:36.000 I'm talking about the event we're doing in Martinsburg at our coffee shop.

00:05:41.000 Uh-huh.

00:05:41.000 March 5th.

00:05:42.000 It's gonna be fun.

00:05:43.000 Once we officially open the shop, the plan I have for Saturday mornings is something I call Saturday morning cartoons, where we want to open up early, maybe 7 a.m., we want to have catered breakfast, parents can come with their kids, and on the TVs will be family-approved educational kids content cartoons.

00:06:01.000 The kids can hang out socially, you know, be social, interact, the parents can share ideas, and I feel like This is how we build community back in our areas.

00:06:09.000 I love it.

00:06:10.000 It's how we can help, you know, I'm a big fan of what The Daily Wire is doing with Bent Key and this kid's content.

00:06:16.000 And so I think not only are we going to help build up that kind of content and create a culture, or strengthen the culture of actual good family-friendly content, but when the parents get together and start talking, it creates organization where they can actually affect change.

00:06:30.000 And when bad things start happening in the community, We, of course, can then have an organized group of parents and leaders who can push back.

00:06:37.000 But I bring this up because even in Martinsburg, West Virginia, you've got all-ages drag shows they're trying to do. 0.99

00:06:43.000 During Pride, next to our building, they had a drag show in the street and they brought children up on stage.

00:06:49.000 And my attitude the whole time is like, if you're 18 and up and you want to have a private event, go have your private event.

00:06:54.000 It's a free country.

00:06:55.000 But the fact that they keep trying to pull kids into it is where I'm like, you're crossing the line.

00:06:59.000 So the way we win this is we push back culturally, but we have to build.

00:07:03.000 It's not just about being angry and complaining on the internet, it's about actually doing something.

00:07:07.000 So that's why we're really excited, because you've basically been doing regular story time, and they've been really angry about you reading.

00:07:15.000 I guess just like wholesome books to kids.

00:07:17.000 It's crazy.

00:07:18.000 That's right.

00:07:19.000 The first book that I wrote was called As You Grow and it's a story of a little acorn that grows up into a big oak tree and teaches kids how to grow the sweet fruit of love, joy, kindness, gentleness, self-control during the different difficult seasons of their life.

00:07:33.000 It was a great book.

00:07:34.000 I wanted to read it at a public library and I was denied by over 50 woke libraries that had previously held Drag Queen Story Hours at those libraries.

00:07:45.000 I'm sorry, I suppose I could have put on some high heels and fishnet stockings but I never look good in a skirt.

00:07:51.000 I just went as myself and they said no and then I told some friends at the news and was able to remind them publicly that this is the United States of America viewpoint discrimination and theirs was religious viewpoint discrimination just because I'm a Christian and there was a Bible verse or two in the book is not grounds to tell me that I can't come to a public library when people want me there and have invited me there.

00:08:18.000 So I told them I'd see them in court if they didn't change course.

00:08:22.000 They did change course.

00:08:23.000 We showed up at the Indianapolis Public Library and had 3,000 parents and grandparents welcoming us, so much that it actually violated fire codes.

00:08:33.000 And they were telling people to leave the floors, go down to other floors.

00:08:36.000 And the coolest part was this.

00:08:38.000 There were people that were, the room that they put us in was maybe room for 150 people to gather to read this little kid's book.

00:08:48.000 There was another 2,500 people outside, down the escalator, out the door and down the street, waiting to get in.

00:08:55.000 They would never make it in, in the small window of time that they gave us.

00:08:59.000 So what did all these parents and grandparents do who had slept their kids out there?

00:09:05.000 They didn't start rioting.

00:09:06.000 They didn't break windows.

00:09:07.000 They weren't flipping cars over.

00:09:08.000 They weren't lighting stuff on fire.

00:09:10.000 The moms just sat down between the aisles of books in the libraries. 1.00

00:09:14.000 They opened up their book bags and they just started reading to their kids and having story hours there and they were singing songs.

00:09:20.000 It turned into like a God Bless America fest, reading songs of wholesome virtue to the kids in the libraries and everybody had a great time, even though technically they didn't get to see what they came for, but they were part of something that they knew was important and they were so grateful.

00:09:37.000 This is amazing, and it is a tremendous victory culturally.

00:09:41.000 So we'll get into all that more later in the show.

00:09:43.000 We talk about the show you're doing in the book.

00:09:44.000 So this is gonna be fun, man.

00:09:45.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:09:46.000 We got Hannah Clare hanging out. 0.92

00:09:47.000 Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.

00:09:48.000 I'm so excited you're here.

00:09:49.000 I love hearing about your fight to take back the public library.

00:09:51.000 I grew up with a library in my town that I absolutely loved, and it was way before the wokeism crept in.

00:09:56.000 But I'm a writer for scnr.com.

00:09:58.000 You should follow all of our work at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.

00:10:02.000 Ian's here.

00:10:02.000 What's up, dudes?

00:10:03.000 Ian Crossland.

00:10:04.000 Were you always a wholesome guy, or did you evolve into that post-Hollywood?

00:10:09.000 Yeah.

00:10:11.000 I've done some evolving, for sure.

00:10:13.000 And as far as me being a wholesome guy, I'm also an actor, I could be faking this whole thing. 0.99

00:10:16.000 I could just be a real jerk, and you don't even know it. 0.98

00:10:21.000 We had to get a bowl of brown M&Ms for him before he got here. 1.00

00:10:23.000 That's right, I'm a bit of a diva.

00:10:25.000 Actually, I did request my own biltong.

00:10:28.000 Take that with you.

00:10:29.000 We were actually excited when he saw we had biltong.

00:10:31.000 We were like, yes, yes, we'll get you some for sure.

00:10:33.000 This is very high-quality biltong, too.

00:10:34.000 It's top-notch.

00:10:35.000 This isn't your run-of-the-mill dried beef.

00:10:38.000 Kind of melts in your mouth.

00:10:39.000 Shout-out to Surge for making that happen.

00:10:41.000 No, shout-out to VFIA.

00:10:42.000 We appreciate it.

00:10:42.000 Thank you, man.

00:10:43.000 And imsurge.com, I might as well intro myself.

00:10:45.000 I'm glad you like it.

00:10:46.000 I'm glad you do.

00:10:47.000 It's really good.

00:10:47.000 It's good stuff, eh?

00:10:48.000 And it's not overly seasoned.

00:10:50.000 I feel like I could eat the whole bag.

00:10:50.000 Oh, of course not.

00:10:52.000 Hey, you hear that?

00:10:53.000 It's good stuff, man.

00:10:54.000 Anyways, let's jump into the news.

00:10:56.000 This is huge.

00:10:57.000 From Florida's Voice, Florida Senate passes bill to set release of Epstein grand jury documents.

00:11:04.000 The Florida Senate gave final approval to a bill that would permit the release of documents related to convicted sex offender and now deceased Jeffrey Epstein as part of a 2006 Florida grand jury investigation.

00:11:15.000 The bill expands the rules for allowing the release of evidence and or testimony from a grand jury.

00:11:20.000 Senator Tina Polsky, a Democrat from Boca Raton, filed the legislation.

00:11:24.000 It passed the floor unanimously 37 to 0.

00:11:27.000 At the time, Epstein escaped with far less severe punishment relating to allegations regarding his solicitation of minors for sexual activity.

00:11:36.000 The Florida House of Representatives passed the bill last week unanimously.

00:11:39.000 The House version was filed by Rep.

00:11:41.000 Peggy Gossett, Sideman, a Republican from Highland Beach.

00:11:44.000 Gossett Seidman had said the victims of Epstein deserve to know more about testimony against Epstein in the Florida

00:11:49.000 The legislation notably applies when the subject of a grand jury investigated is deceased, Epstein passed in 2019.

00:11:49.000 case.

00:11:56.000 It also applies in the grand jury investigation was related to criminal or sexual activity between the subject and a

00:12:00.000 minor at the time of the activity. However, it notes the court can still

00:12:04.000 issue redactions and other restrictions on releasing testimony. Now, aside from this,

00:12:08.000 Ron DeSantis has tweeted out, all files related to Jeffrey Epstein's criminal activity should be made public,

00:12:15.000 When the federal government continues to stonewall accountability, I'm glad the legislature has taken action to release the grand jury material from the Florida state case.

00:12:24.000 I will sign the bill into law.

00:12:28.000 It has been 18 years since this information was collected.

00:12:33.000 When it was, they had real evidence that Epstein was doing really, really horrible things, and likely with very powerful people.

00:12:41.000 They covered it up.

00:12:42.000 I can't believe it took until 2019 to get a conviction, despite the fact that people had been talking about this for some time.

00:12:48.000 Ten years ago, you were called a conspiracy theorist.

00:12:52.000 Today, it is historical record and fact.

00:12:57.000 I wonder how many powerful elites in the United States and around the world started sweating the moment this story, this news broke.

00:13:06.000 6 p.m.

00:13:06.000 DeSantis says, 6 p.m.

00:13:07.000 today, DeSantis says, I'm signing this into law.

00:13:09.000 There's got to be a couple of rich people who are wiping their brows with their handkerchief right now.

00:13:14.000 I mean, let's hope so, right?

00:13:15.000 We'd love to see things like this come to fruition because we want accountability.

00:13:19.000 I think that's what the biggest shift in the Jeffrey Epstein narrative is, is that people feel as though they can not only say out loud, he did these things and it was bad and had a terrible impact on people, but also there are other people who are being kept out of the narrative and whose names are being shielded because of this, and that's not okay.

00:13:37.000 I think before there was a time where it sort of felt like, well, there's nothing we can do about it.

00:13:41.000 And I like the return to demanding accountability.

00:13:45.000 You asked me this as we're getting the story ready.

00:13:46.000 You're like, how come we hear these things and like nothing happens?

00:13:50.000 Right.

00:13:51.000 And it's a good question.

00:13:54.000 But my response was, and I'm like, we should have just done the show.

00:13:56.000 I'm like, it was a great question.

00:13:58.000 Yeah.

00:13:59.000 The tapes on January 6th come out or this is going to be released and everyone's going to hear the truth.

00:14:03.000 They're going to get all this new information and then nothing happens.

00:14:07.000 Or is something happening?

00:14:09.000 And so it's almost as I wish we recorded it because I said, well, something is happening.

00:14:14.000 But I think because of the Internet, everybody expects everything to happen instantly, like the news breaks and then you're like, OK, something should happen.

00:14:21.000 You know, when the when the founding fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, it was a year and a month after the war had already started.

00:14:27.000 So Lexington and Concord is 1775.

00:14:29.000 A year later, they're like, OK, I think we'll declare independence now after a year of fighting.

00:14:34.000 Took three months for that declaration to make it to the crown.

00:14:37.000 Then they get it.

00:14:38.000 Then they have to schedule a meeting, parliament, figure out what's going on.

00:14:40.000 I mean, it's like years for just this one concept to happen.

00:14:45.000 We're seeing all the stuff related to Epstein now.

00:14:47.000 What I think is going to happen is...

00:14:49.000 More and more people cannot deny the reality of this, so it shatters the establishment narrative.

00:14:56.000 Every time we get news, these documents are going to come out.

00:14:59.000 It's going to implicate somebody.

00:15:01.000 It's going to be terrifying and damning for these nasty people.

00:15:04.000 They're going to be shaking in their boots, and we're better off for it.

00:15:08.000 You're going to have a liberal aunt or uncle or grandfather or whatever, relative, neighbor.

00:15:14.000 And when this stuff comes out and becomes undeniable, as it's already been doing, they won't be able to reject your ideas when you say, listen, you know, look, 10 years ago, you come out, you're talking to your neighbor and you say, you know, this Epstein guy's doing this stuff. 0.98

00:15:25.000 And they go, oh, you're nuts. 0.88

00:15:28.000 Now they're like, well, of course. 1.00

00:15:30.000 So that's the shift.

00:15:31.000 Where does this go?

00:15:32.000 You'll eventually end up with politicians, as we are seeing now.

00:15:36.000 Why didn't Florida release these documents in 2012?

00:15:40.000 No one cared.

00:15:41.000 The politicians thought, what do I gain from doing it?

00:15:45.000 Some lobbyist comes in and says, I represent a very powerful individual who does not want those documents released.

00:15:49.000 And they go, okay, fine.

00:15:50.000 Now, you've got internet fundraising.

00:15:53.000 You've got people like Matt Gaetz and AOC, you know, for as much as we'd criticize her, but they're not beholden to powerful lobbyists anymore.

00:16:01.000 They're beholden to internet masses and their communities who will fund their campaigns with smaller donations. 0.53

00:16:08.000 They can say F you to the big shots, so when their lobbyist comes in and says, I represent a guy who doesn't want these documents released, they go, that sucks for you, I guess.

00:16:15.000 Now that people are demanding it, and funding it, and funding the change, and funding the politicians who are gonna make this change happen, the more we get information, the more we can convert regular people, get them on our side, you will start seeing politicians make bigger and bigger moves.

00:16:31.000 So this is, this story is it happening.

00:16:34.000 The documents come out in what, 2018, 2019?

00:16:37.000 Epstein gets locked up, he dies, everyone says, what's going on?

00:16:39.000 We want to know what happened.

00:16:41.000 Now, finally, Florida saying, we're going to release the documents from 2006.

00:16:43.000 I think it's good.

00:16:45.000 I think the transparency in general, in general, is good.

00:16:48.000 Obviously, the secrecy can be good too.

00:16:51.000 If you're, you know, weapons secrecy or whatever, but like, like you want to protect your national security.

00:16:55.000 But I am also, we were talking before the show about the age of obfuscation.

00:16:59.000 We're kind of like with AI is now kind of twisting and turning reality.

00:17:03.000 So, I'm not like, yay, we won thing.

00:17:08.000 I don't know what's going to happen, because even if the data comes out and people are like, no, you didn't read that, you thought you read that, but you actually read this and they show you a different... I don't know.

00:17:18.000 When AI starts manipulating... Oh my gosh.

00:17:21.000 Well, we gotta figure that stuff out, that's for sure.

00:17:25.000 But I think these kind of things happening, we can whittle it down to one simple point, it breaks the establishment narrative.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, and also like the uniparty, the federal uniparty that probably has people involved with Epstein more than like state governments are kind of beholden to the states.

00:17:40.000 It's not the other way around.

00:17:41.000 The states have a lot of power.

00:17:42.000 DeSantis is exercising that power.

00:17:44.000 I have a lot of respect for him for doing that.

00:17:47.000 From what I read, they introduced an effort to release these documents last year, and it failed.

00:17:51.000 And so this is the second attempt, which again, tells that even 12 months later, there's a shift in culture.

00:17:56.000 Yep.

00:17:58.000 We winning.

00:17:58.000 What I get nervous about is, do you remember, what was the list that came out that everyone's like, oh, they're releasing Epstein's List, but it wasn't.

00:18:03.000 It was just people who have been called to testify.

00:18:05.000 And then they release these documents, and some are redacted, and they're out of order, and you don't really know.

00:18:10.000 Not even testify, it was just names that were brought up in the case.

00:18:13.000 That just appeared at any point, right?

00:18:15.000 So that was sort of weird misinformation.

00:18:17.000 I have this fear that while this is a victory and I don't want to take away from that, you know, you could theoretically roll out these documents in a way that presents information in a biased presentation.

00:18:29.000 I just, I guess I wonder about what the effect will be long term.

00:18:33.000 This is a victory no matter what.

00:18:35.000 I really like what you guys are saying, and Tim, you're reminding me the importance of playing the long game.

00:18:40.000 You're just talking about how much we want instant gratification.

00:18:43.000 We see something like this, or we see the January 6th tapes, or we see something else, and we say, boom, we want justice to be served right now.

00:18:51.000 I see the Marxists have done, the leftists have done, the progressives have done is they're really playing a long game and they say, hey, let's get a hold of public education and let's just work this for a really, really long time.

00:19:03.000 And you might think, well, it's not working.

00:19:04.000 It's not working.

00:19:05.000 No, no, no.

00:19:05.000 It's working very, very well.

00:19:07.000 It's establishing the crack in the dam that ultimately will bust the whole thing open.

00:19:12.000 But you've got to be willing to play the long game.

00:19:14.000 And I think often conservatives aren't doing that.

00:19:18.000 But I see the other side doing that very well.

00:19:21.000 I think people should understand.

00:19:23.000 You know, when I start a game of chess with, say, Ian here, I want to knock his king over right when the game starts.

00:19:28.000 But you can't.

00:19:30.000 Because he's got the same pieces you do, which means you need to figure out how to navigate that system to overcome his defenses and then checkmate his king.

00:19:38.000 What we are seeing now is, sure, the January 6th tapes come out, more absentee information comes out.

00:19:43.000 What this is, in Florida, We moved our bishop across the board and we're securing, you know, we're reinforcing one of our pieces, maybe putting a threat to one of their pieces on the board.

00:19:54.000 We've not yet checkmated the opponent, but this is a part of the process where we are lining up the board for our victory.

00:19:59.000 You know, that's so true, Kirk, about instant gratification.

00:20:02.000 I think the society is kind of We've evolved or devolved.

00:20:05.000 We've revolved into this sense of instant gratification with, you know, 30 second clips and likes and all that.

00:20:11.000 How many likes did I get?

00:20:12.000 How many likes did I get?

00:20:13.000 And like the long game is so key.

00:20:15.000 The communist, as Yuri Besmanov talked a lot about, takes 20 years to infiltrate a country with the KGB.

00:20:21.000 They'd be like, this is a Russian tactic, a Soviet tactic. 0.76

00:20:23.000 As you get in there early, it takes you 10, 20 years.

00:20:25.000 The Chinese, as far as I can tell, they're still fighting the opium wars from the 1890s.

00:20:30.000 Now they're feeding fentanyl through Mexico.

00:20:32.000 Because what happened was the British colonized off the east coast of China and just poured opium into China in the late 1800s and just toxified their civilianry and controlled their nation through addiction.

00:20:43.000 And now they're still, it's like the memory is not lost.

00:20:46.000 I also wonder how much of it has to do with the fact that so much of the American population gets their sense of how law enforcement and the justice system works through, like, Law & Order SVU.

00:20:55.000 So you have this, like, neat little thing that ties up in, what, 40 minutes, 30 minutes?

00:20:59.000 And it seems like, even though they'll put at the bottom, like, these are months apart, your brain is conditioned to think, but it happens back to back to back to back.

00:21:06.000 Oh, and CSI is the worst.

00:21:08.000 I can't tell you, I mean, anybody who knows a cop, or has talked to a cop about it, they go, oh geez, I was talking to a cop out in West Virginia, and he was like, you will not believe it.

00:21:17.000 We'll get like, someone will call in and say someone broke into my garage and stole my, you know, leaf blower or something, and we'll show up, we'll write, we'll take notes, and we'll say, thank you for your information, and they immediately respond with, well aren't you gonna dust for prints?

00:21:29.000 It's like, what is a $70 leaf blower?

00:21:31.000 What do you think we're doing over here?

00:21:33.000 You know, and say yes is like, there's the body.

00:21:35.000 Okay, we've gotten the DNA back five seconds later.

00:21:38.000 And every other like anyone who's into crude true crime or police officers like that would take months if we had the funding for it.

00:21:44.000 Yep.

00:21:45.000 If we had the funding for it, like, yeah, we could do it maybe in a month, but no one's gonna spend the money on this.

00:21:50.000 Meanwhile, they have it by lunch.

00:21:51.000 I mean, it's a fictional world.

00:21:52.000 And again, that is a lot of people's exposure to how any sort of legal proceeding works.

00:21:57.000 It's crazy that it's been almost 20 years.

00:22:00.000 The long game I guess is where we're at because I have been banging my head against the proverbial wall trying to fix the world in like in like a talk show in like a two-hour podcast and like dude there's that saying that you you plant trees that you'll never sit under the shade of you know you inspired Leonardo we're talking before the show like Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt got their start on your TV show in the 80s right and without even knowing it you were like mentoring those guys and showing them what a young actor could become and now like I guess that's where it's at is like teaching the children is helping the kids.

00:22:32.000 Brad Pitt's watching right now being like, you know, Kirk was great.

00:22:35.000 Yeah.

00:22:37.000 You know, this, I think, I don't know how many, I don't know who's listening to this program right now, but for the moms and dads out there who feel like, what can I do?

00:22:47.000 I don't have a podcast.

00:22:48.000 I don't have a television show.

00:22:49.000 I don't have a bunch of influencers on this platform.

00:22:53.000 But you know what?

00:22:54.000 Playing the long game as a mom, as a dad, as a grandparent, I think is one of the most powerful things we can possibly do.

00:23:02.000 I mean, what does everybody want to do?

00:23:03.000 They want to get to the children.

00:23:04.000 They want to get to the children through TikTok, Instagram.

00:23:08.000 Through Snapchat, through public schools, through whatever because whoever has the time to tell the stories and set the values in the hearts and minds of children gets to control the future.

00:23:20.000 Isn't that true?

00:23:21.000 But your poor kids...

00:23:24.000 Kirk, your poor kids having to look at the Tiger Beat magazines of you and like seeing all the celebrity stuff.

00:23:30.000 We should pull those up, by the way.

00:23:31.000 Those are hot.

00:23:32.000 We'll pull it up.

00:23:32.000 No, but you know what I think is really, really important is we've talked on this show about the importance of having families and here's what I love.

00:23:41.000 Anybody who's ever played one of these strategy games like StarCraft or WarCraft or Command & Conquer?

00:23:48.000 You just mass produce the lowest level fighter unit.

00:23:52.000 So you ever see one of these video games where it's like you build a little base and then you'll like collect resources and then train soldiers.

00:23:58.000 Instead of building the most intricate weapons and making your army have nukes, you just make millions of little soldiers.

00:24:04.000 You send them all over to your enemy's base and they just, through just volume, wipe them out.

00:24:10.000 What is it called?

00:24:11.000 Zerging?

00:24:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:12.000 That's actually based on the Zerg from Starcraft.

00:24:14.000 You just mass produce the Zerg and send them over. 1.00

00:24:16.000 It's the cheapest, smallest unit.

00:24:18.000 When it comes to the culture war, there's a really, really simple way to win.

00:24:21.000 And it's just to mass make humans.

00:24:23.000 Just keep having babies. 0.89

00:24:24.000 Y'all number them eventually.

00:24:26.000 And the crazy thing is, this is actually what many other groups have said.

00:24:30.000 The difference now is, we're looking at the left, they're not having kids.

00:24:33.000 They're aborting their kids. 1.00

00:24:35.000 They're sterilizing their kids.

00:24:36.000 But a lot of people have said, yes, Tim, but even if we do have kids, they're indoctrinating them.

00:24:40.000 It's like, uh-huh.

00:24:41.000 And Kirk Cameron is going to libraries and reading them books and making books and countering that.

00:24:46.000 So if you have someone producing culture, and it's Brave Books, it's many others, And you're having more kids.

00:24:52.000 You've won.

00:24:53.000 Yeah.

00:24:53.000 It just takes time.

00:24:54.000 I think Kirk is totally right.

00:24:56.000 I think the parents are really on the ground level of this Cold War battle because they are with their children.

00:25:01.000 There's this line from the sociologist Neil Postman that children are a message to a future that you'll never be in.

00:25:07.000 And it reminds me of the game of telephone, if you ever played that as a kid, where you like whisper a sentence in someone's ear.

00:25:11.000 So to your point, if your children have strong values, strong messages, if they have a good understanding of history and the culture that, you know, could guide them to a better life, they are more likely to deliver the message clearly to the future that none of us will be a part of.

00:25:26.000 Were your kids post-internet?

00:25:28.000 Were they young after the internet was out?

00:25:30.000 Did you have to guard them from it?

00:25:32.000 Yeah.

00:25:33.000 In fact, I even did a little documentary called Connect, which is all about raising kids in a social media world.

00:25:39.000 So yeah, I remember all of our kids got phones at the same time.

00:25:43.000 We have six kids.

00:25:44.000 They're all one year apart.

00:25:45.000 So when my kids were little, they were seven, six, five, four, three, two.

00:25:50.000 Wow.

00:25:50.000 Yeah.

00:25:51.000 And your house was so loud.

00:25:53.000 Very loud.

00:25:53.000 Yeah, we were like the Brady Bunch.

00:25:55.000 And now they're older.

00:25:56.000 So they're all adults now.

00:25:58.000 And they're doing great.

00:25:59.000 But yeah, that was a really big concern.

00:26:02.000 And it was at a time where we as parents are trying to figure all of this out as well.

00:26:08.000 So it was a great learning experience.

00:26:12.000 But it's It's a super big problem.

00:26:15.000 So we went to Timberline Mountain in West Virginia last weekend, me, my girlfriend Allison,

00:26:20.000 and we were riding on the ski lift.

00:26:22.000 And behind us, there was, I think it was a dad and like three little girls, must've been his.

00:26:28.000 And they were all simultaneously going, ah, the whole way up.

00:26:33.000 And we're in front.

00:26:34.000 And I just look over at Allison, and I was like, I guess they just discovered vocal chords.

00:26:37.000 But I thought it was hilarious, it was funny.

00:26:39.000 And then the dad says, you know that sound you're making?

00:26:42.000 That's- that's- that's- you're annoying people.

00:26:43.000 And then they were like, oh.

00:26:44.000 And they stopped.

00:26:46.000 I just thought it was hilarious, I didn't want to tell that story.

00:26:47.000 And credit to that dad for not, like, losing his mind.

00:26:50.000 He was just like, just so you guys know.

00:26:51.000 He said something like that, I thought it was great.

00:26:53.000 He said something like, you know that sound you're making?

00:26:55.000 Yet no one else is making that sound.

00:26:57.000 And he's like, I think people are annoyed.

00:26:58.000 And I was laughing, though.

00:27:00.000 I thought it was hilarious.

00:27:00.000 Yeah.

00:27:01.000 I was like, yeah, little kids do little kid stuff.

00:27:02.000 But that's like such an interesting part of the way children's brains develop.

00:27:05.000 They have to learn that their actions have an impact on other people, you know?

00:27:08.000 Like, I think that would be the cool thing about being able to work hands-on with children, if you're a teacher, or to have children as a parent, is that you have this direct impact and you get to see them grow and develop in real time.

00:27:19.000 I think what's strange about so many people who don't have children but want to tell you what's good or bad for your children, that they should be at drag shows or what else, Is that they don't experience this at all?

00:27:28.000 No.

00:27:29.000 Let's jump to the story here from the Post-Millennial.

00:27:31.000 Big news, ladies and gentlemen, SEC approves Trump truth social deal for up to $10 billion.

00:27:38.000 So there it is, the long-awaited approval has happened.

00:27:42.000 Donald Trump, this is the merger of DWAC with Trump.

00:27:46.000 This is Truth Social and Digital World Acquisition Corporation.

00:27:48.000 Let me slow down and explain to you basically what this means.

00:27:50.000 In order to go public, you'd have to have a company, you'd have to reach a certain threshold, do a bunch of filings.

00:27:55.000 What they do now are these special purpose acquisition companies that are already public, and then they merge with another company, effectively turning Company A merges with Company B, turning Company B into a publicly traded company, generating massive amounts of investment opportunity right away with their shares.

00:28:14.000 Donald Trump's holings are worth about $4 billion.

00:28:16.000 We talked about this the other day.

00:28:17.000 Now it looks like it may be moving forward much more quickly.

00:28:21.000 The SEC approved the merger of approximately $10 billion dollars with a long wait on Wall Street, according to OAN.

00:28:27.000 Trump Media and Technology Group, which owned both companies, intends to take TruthSocial in an initial public offering to have it go through the process.

00:28:35.000 Trump owns 79 million shares valued at $45 to $47 per share.

00:28:41.000 So this is, I don't know what happens with TruthSocial when this does go down, but this means TruthSocial could rapidly generate tons of investment money and may actually I don't see it displacing X. X has been doing such a tremendous job, but Donald Trump is tripling his net worth right now in an election year.

00:28:58.000 I wonder if what he'll do is sell off some of these shares to help finance his presidential campaign.

00:29:03.000 Maybe.

00:29:04.000 Or Fannie Wells, or not Fannie Wells, but just so James will be like, that's money, money is mine now, please give it to me immediately.

00:29:10.000 Well, where are these companies headquartered?

00:29:11.000 I mean, I'd imagine Florida?

00:29:13.000 If he quite courted anything in New York, I would seriously question his judgment.

00:29:17.000 Doesn't he have a lot of stuff incorporated in Delaware?

00:29:19.000 I think he did for a while.

00:29:21.000 Delaware is also risky.

00:29:23.000 We saw that with Elon Musk.

00:29:24.000 Delaware and Wyoming.

00:29:24.000 He posted about that, right?

00:29:25.000 Didn't he post on to Expo?

00:29:27.000 Elon Musk did, yeah.

00:29:28.000 Yes, that's right.

00:29:28.000 Oh, okay.

00:29:29.000 Yeah, and then I was also really pissed off because when that just...

00:29:32.000 So the story was Elon Musk got like 80% approval from Tesla for this $50 billion package.

00:29:39.000 It wasn't $50 billion.

00:29:40.000 It was a certain amount of shares that he would earn if Tesla reached a certain threshold.

00:29:46.000 And so when he reached that threshold recently, it was going to be valued at $50 billion.

00:29:52.000 Some guy with like nine shares, I guess, sued and a Delaware judge blocked Elon Musk's pay package, which was approved by the company.

00:30:00.000 I own shares.

00:30:00.000 I own like 230 some odd shares in Tesla.

00:30:03.000 It's like, that's, I mean, I'm not like a multi-million dollar investor.

00:30:06.000 That's like 50 grand or something like that.

00:30:08.000 But immediately I see the stock starts going down and I'm like, Elon Musk, who's running this company, if this judge is going to ideologically block him from getting paid from his own company, it's going to disincentivize him from making money for the rest of the shareholders.

00:30:22.000 It's insane that they're doing this.

00:30:24.000 But all of this, not just with Elon, but also Trump, The courts have been weaponized for ideological purposes against their political enemies, and it's an election year.

00:30:34.000 So it's all, it's, I think they're, they're furious at Elon Musk for what he did with Twitter.

00:30:38.000 Donald Trump is now on two fronts.

00:30:40.000 He's got Truth Social, which is going to receive a massive amount of investment.

00:30:43.000 It's been approved for this merger.

00:30:45.000 It's valued at $10 billion.

00:30:46.000 So Trump could make a bunch of money off this.

00:30:48.000 They're pissed about that.

00:30:48.000 They're trying to take money from him.

00:30:50.000 And he's getting in the social media game more heavily now with an opportunity for massive investment.

00:30:54.000 I have to imagine, uh, They're not quite happy, these anti-Trump forces and Democrats, because Trump is beating them at every turn.

00:31:02.000 I mean, they're coming after him, they're hitting him hard, but this is a game of assets and liabilities.

00:31:06.000 And they're trying to increase the liabilities, but Trump is increasing his assets much more quickly.

00:31:10.000 So all in all, very, very good news.

00:31:11.000 Do you think Truth will sort of specialize in the content that they do?

00:31:14.000 You're saying it could never really compete directly with Axe, it's never gonna replace it entirely, but if it's specialized, I mean, it's already sort of specialized in the sense that it's like people who like Trump are on it.

00:31:24.000 It's the Trump show!

00:31:25.000 It's crazy, it's- Tucker Carlson has his own network, Trump has his own platform.

00:31:29.000 Yeah, this is basically, Truth Social is basically Trump Social.

00:31:33.000 It's Trump Social.

00:31:34.000 And the fact that its value right now is estimated at $10 billion based on the current share price, it is literally just stock in Trump.

00:31:41.000 That's crazy.

00:31:43.000 And Trump's going to make $4 billion on this.

00:31:48.000 Twitter X is private, so Elon can do whatever he wants with it, relatively.

00:31:52.000 But if they're going public, that means that they're going to become beholden to the stock owners, which I'm trying to find out who owns Digital World Acquisitions.

00:31:59.000 Three people, I think, work there.

00:32:01.000 But, like, is it gonna be BlackRock?

00:32:03.000 Is it big, global, public?

00:32:04.000 Like, did he just sell out?

00:32:05.000 I doubt it's just someone random.

00:32:06.000 I bet it's someone he knows and has a business relationship with already.

00:32:09.000 Once it goes public, though, anyone can buy the stock, and then BlackRock will come in, State Street, Vanguard.

00:32:14.000 So, like, it's kind of like, yay, good for Trump increasing his net wealth, but the downside is he's kind of selling out TruthSocial.

00:32:20.000 I don't care.

00:32:21.000 I don't care.

00:32:22.000 I don't use it.

00:32:22.000 If Trump makes $400 million off of BlackRock for TruthSocial, I ain't gonna cry about it.

00:32:30.000 Yeah, but people that use True Social should know that that's what's happening, is that it's going public.

00:32:34.000 So it could be owned by people that might be your, you know, your opposition.

00:32:40.000 But Trump has the control of it.

00:32:43.000 And so if they were to buy those investments in it, Trump is in control of all of it.

00:32:47.000 They would have to, and they could, manipulate votes and things like this, but if Trump is 70% or whatever, well, he's not 70, it looks like he's literally 40, but he has full control of both companies, then who cares?

00:33:00.000 Let BlackRock give Trump a billion dollars.

00:33:04.000 I'd be like, okay.

00:33:06.000 You know, it's a question when it comes to activism that's long been asked.

00:33:10.000 Should someone accept money from someone they're ideologically opposed to?

00:33:15.000 So, uh, what's the downside to Trump getting money from, say, BlackRock?

00:33:20.000 People are gonna be like, you're getting funded by BlackRock?

00:33:22.000 That means you're a bad guy.

00:33:24.000 But what if Trump is like, I'm gonna use that billion dollars to secure our borders, fight wokeness, and cancel culture?

00:33:29.000 Is that a bad thing?

00:33:31.000 If BlackRock has less money and Trump has more money and Trump is doing what he's saying he's doing with it, then is it a bad thing?

00:33:36.000 On its face, no.

00:33:37.000 If BlackRock's like, but we want a guy on the board of directors, then you're like, okay, now things are starting to get a little sneaky.

00:33:43.000 But I just gotta be honest, Truth Social is, like, it's the Trump show.

00:33:48.000 If it were Axe, I'd be more concerned.

00:33:50.000 You know, when Elon brings on, what's her name, like, Linda Iaccarino, is that her name?

00:33:55.000 There's a lot of concerns about what that could lead to, but I think so far we've been pretty good on Axe, and Elon's done a pretty dang good job.

00:34:02.000 So, yeah.

00:34:04.000 But Trump Truth Social is just Trump's show.

00:34:06.000 It's not X, it's not YouTube.

00:34:09.000 That's why I wonder what they'll do if they have extra money, if they have extra investment.

00:34:13.000 Will they try to incentivize other creators to come on the platform?

00:34:17.000 And will they eventually try to move it away from just being a Trump-centric platform?

00:34:22.000 Maybe it would still be sort of America First, MAGA-ish, but would they try and diversify and specialize in that way?

00:34:29.000 Because again, if you have this platform, you have the infrastructure, you've already made the investment, What do you want to do with it?

00:34:33.000 What's the long-term goal?

00:34:35.000 If you don't think that you'd, you know, be the next X. I think he would, the smartest thing he would do, and you really don't want, I wouldn't say this out loud, but I'm gonna say it out loud, is that he would just kind of sell that thing out and then use Twitter again, use X, and then get really, really famous and get all the momentum going on X and get his election campaign.

00:34:51.000 But that would destroy every investor in Truth Social.

00:34:54.000 Yeah, and he's already been a part of it.

00:34:56.000 Plus, like, he doesn't need to use X because people put whatever he puts on Truth Social on X anyways, you know?

00:35:01.000 Like, he can stay in the bubble and people have to go to him on Truth Social to see his thing, and then it gets disseminated.

00:35:08.000 It's faster to get, if you want to be following Trump directly, you should be on Truth Social.

00:35:12.000 But I think he should utilize the asset, like the shares that he has and the value that they have, towards his re-election.

00:35:20.000 He can sell shares and then self-finance his re-election campaign.

00:35:24.000 Yeah.

00:35:25.000 Or put up the bond for his fines or whatever.

00:35:27.000 I don't see the courts in New York stopping here, the fine they put up against Trump.

00:35:31.000 They're gonna keep figuring out ways.

00:35:33.000 They're now saying that it's gonna be $87,500 per day in additional interest for every day he doesn't pay.

00:35:39.000 They will make up reasons why Trump cannot pay this off.

00:35:43.000 Then they will seize his buildings and turn them into migrant housing facilities. 1.00

00:35:47.000 It's so strange.

00:35:48.000 The ultimate F you to a man whose campaign was build a big wall is seize his buildings and turn them into migrant shelters. 0.92

00:35:57.000 Like how do you defeat the Roman Empire with its own money?

00:36:00.000 Well, it's just to me such hysteria to go after him like this.

00:36:04.000 I mean, it's such blatant activism.

00:36:06.000 And at a certain point, do the people in New York feel like this government is representing their interests, right?

00:36:12.000 Like, you have the mayors in New York saying, we have too many migrants, we can't accommodate this, we don't know what to do.

00:36:19.000 I think it defines politicians pretty well.

00:36:20.000 real estate investors and say, Don't worry, we were just going

00:36:23.000 after this one guy, we won't come after you. Meanwhile, all the investors gonna be like, we can't trust you. We are

00:36:28.000 considering leaving New York, like they're taking the people

00:36:31.000 of New York who are trying to live their lives, we have families there, and just gambling them on politics. That

00:36:36.000 seems incredibly, I don't know, weird and disgusting to me.

00:36:40.000 Maybe accurate to politicians, but

00:36:43.000 I think it defines politicians pretty well. I think they're, you know, who was it was talking about?

00:36:49.000 It might have been Jesse Kelly, it might have been Mike Cernovich.

00:36:51.000 In fact, it might have been every single conservative commentator ever.

00:36:54.000 That politicians get into office because they want access to the things that rich people have, but they don't have the ability to get.

00:37:01.000 And that's the game.

00:37:02.000 I can't remember who it was, but they made a reference to Swalwell, who has been accused of using tons of government money.

00:37:09.000 Do you know what the story was?

00:37:10.000 Was he flying on planes?

00:37:11.000 Yeah, it was like abusing campaign finance fraud, right?

00:37:14.000 I don't know if it was fraud.

00:37:15.000 I just heard that he was flying around and using lavish daycares and just...

00:37:21.000 I'm trying to be very careful on what the story was because I don't have the full details, but basically like, you know, taking care of himself, you know what I mean?

00:37:26.000 And these people are of low merit.

00:37:30.000 The one thing they're really good at is, I will do whatever you say.

00:37:33.000 That's what they're good at.

00:37:34.000 And so they go to the lobbyists, they go to the people doing the funding, and they'll say, just tell me what to do and I'll do it.

00:37:37.000 I don't care, just give me money.

00:37:38.000 And then you end up with politicians who are just like cogs in the machine.

00:37:44.000 Were you able to find it?

00:37:44.000 That's the gist of it.

00:37:46.000 No, I mean, he was the subject of... We're talking about Eric Swalwell, right?

00:37:50.000 Yeah.

00:37:52.000 I don't know, we won't get into it.

00:37:55.000 You can keep searching, but we'll jump to this next story.

00:37:57.000 This one, I just gotta say, I have no words. 0.55

00:38:01.000 Black Chicagoans slam Mayor Johnson for replacing them with migrants. 0.95

00:38:05.000 There you go. 0.93

00:38:08.000 So the Great Replacement Theory is accepted now by the black community in Chicago. 0.76

00:38:17.000 They're demanding reparations, a carve-out on a $6,000 a year property taxes that whites, Asians, and Hispanics would still have to pay. 0.85

00:38:25.000 Chicago activists are bashing Mayor Brandon Johnson for trying to replace blacks with migrants. 0.82

00:38:29.000 That's what they're saying.

00:38:31.000 So, ladies and gentlemen, the Great Replacement Theory is no longer a conspiracy theory.

00:38:34.000 It is now a BLM fact.

00:38:36.000 And if anyone tells you that you're wrong, you can simply point to this article where you have black activists in Chicago who are saying they're being replaced.

00:38:44.000 That's it.

00:38:45.000 But this was always one of the problems with illegal immigration, which is that, I mean, was it... Who was on our show talking about this?

00:38:53.000 There are certain communities that are adversely affected by illegal immigration, and they're actually the same communities that often Democrat politicians are trying to win the vote from.

00:39:01.000 You know, people in inner-city communities, low-skilled workers, like agricultural workers.

00:39:06.000 It's crazy to me that they were able to sell a no-no, leave-the-border-open line for so long.

00:39:13.000 Yeah.

00:39:14.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:39:15.000 It's funny because Democrat policies, they're just sabotaging their own voter base.

00:39:21.000 And now it's coming back to bite them in a very hilarious, narrative-breaking way in which Tucker Carlson says that the Great Replacement is not a conspiracy theory, it's a fact of Democrat policy.

00:39:33.000 So what do you say now, corporate press, when they call Tucker a white supremacist or whatever?

00:39:40.000 Better yet, let me do this.

00:39:43.000 Let's have fun with this one.

00:39:44.000 Great Replacement, Wikipedia page.

00:39:47.000 Their Swalwell story is that he spends lavishly, his campaign will pay for like tens of thousands of dollars of luxury hotels, car service, etc, etc.

00:39:56.000 Alright everybody, Great Replacement is a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory espoused by French author Renaud Camus.

00:40:05.000 Camu, is that how you say it?

00:40:05.000 Camu.

00:40:06.000 Camu.

00:40:07.000 Uh-oh! 0.94

00:40:09.000 And black activists in Chicago. 0.97

00:40:09.000 Uh-oh. 0.97

00:40:11.000 And black activists in Chicago who are complaining they're being replaced by illegal immigrants. 0.95

00:40:15.000 So, I don't know, what do we do with this one?

00:40:18.000 Is the gray replacement narrative going to disappear now?

00:40:21.000 Because, you know, Ann Coulter went on Bill Maher's show and said, Bill Maher said, we don't know who the shooter was in Kansas City.

00:40:29.000 And she goes, well, we have some idea.

00:40:30.000 And he goes, why?

00:40:31.000 She said, if it was a white guy, we'd know by now.

00:40:33.000 And Bill Maher insulted her.

00:40:34.000 This guy, Bill, I feel bad for him.

00:40:37.000 Because he gets these big stories very, very wrong too often, and it's kind of embarrassing.

00:40:42.000 When they mocked Dennis Prager back in 2019 over a story that was like five or six years old, that the left had been arguing that they should put tampons in the men's room because men menstruate.

00:40:53.000 And Bill Maher, and who was it?

00:40:55.000 It was, who's the journalist?

00:40:57.000 I forget his name.

00:40:58.000 The son of, what's her face?

00:41:00.000 Farrow.

00:41:01.000 No, Farrow.

00:41:03.000 What's his face, Farrow?

00:41:04.000 You know who I'm talking about?

00:41:05.000 You know who I'm talking about, right?

00:41:07.000 Mia Farrow?

00:41:07.000 Yeah, her son.

00:41:08.000 Oh, oh, um... What's his face?

00:41:12.000 Anyway... I'm looking it up.

00:41:13.000 Anyway, Ann Coulter was like... Ronan?

00:41:16.000 Ronan, there you go.

00:41:16.000 Ronan Farrow?

00:41:17.000 Ann Coulter was like, if it was a white shooter, we'd know by now.

00:41:20.000 Turns out, information about the shooter came out. 0.82

00:41:22.000 It's reportedly he's confessed and he was a young black man.

00:41:25.000 And you know what the crazy thing is?

00:41:27.000 Do you know what the alleged reason for the shooting at the Super Bowl was?

00:41:30.000 At the Super Bowl parade? 0.92

00:41:31.000 Oh, he was like, I was just being dumb or something like that? 0.94

00:41:33.000 No, no, no, no. 0.92

00:41:35.000 They were looking at each other wrong.

00:41:36.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

00:41:37.000 One guy said, what are you looking at?

00:41:39.000 That's the quote, what are you looking at?

00:41:41.000 And then the guy argued back, nothing, what are you looking at?

00:41:44.000 And then they argued with each other and then the shooter pulled out his gun.

00:41:47.000 And they opened fire and they killed the person, they shot a bunch of kids.

00:41:50.000 But this is, you know, I forgot why I brought this up, but I was mentioning Bill Maher and

00:41:54.000 Ann Coulter calling out like the narrative machine.

00:41:57.000 Oh, right, right.

00:41:57.000 Replacement theory.

00:41:58.000 Right, so now what's gonna happen is, now that you have black activists saying they're being replaced, the corporate press will immediately drop all criticism of Great Replacement.

00:42:07.000 Yeah, and in fact, I think we should start calling it Replacement Theory.

00:42:09.000 It doesn't have to be great, just like the Great Reset.

00:42:12.000 Just call it Reset Theory.

00:42:14.000 There are ways to replace your population by bringing in immigrants. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Very, very simple.

00:42:19.000 Well, that is a way to do it.

00:42:20.000 But at what point is this going to get spun as like, no, no, it helps you.

00:42:24.000 It helps you when we do this.

00:42:25.000 I mean, that's what I think the Democrat Party or sort of progressive media does well, which is to say everything we do, no matter what, is in your benefit and we will lie to you until you believe us.

00:42:36.000 I just don't trust that they will start walking this one back.

00:42:38.000 I think they'll continue to lie.

00:42:40.000 It helps some people.

00:42:41.000 It helps corporations.

00:42:42.000 Some people that want cheap labor, it can help their bottom line. 0.98

00:42:44.000 It doesn't help the people it's actually impacting, and that's the problem.

00:42:47.000 I don't think it helps the communities necessarily.

00:42:49.000 It doesn't help the country.

00:42:50.000 Illegal immigration is bad. 1.00

00:42:51.000 You might meet some cool people.

00:42:52.000 There's some melting pot, some cultural.

00:42:54.000 But with the internet, I mean, it used to be like I was in LA and I met some dudes from Mexico and I learned Mexican culture.

00:42:59.000 Now the internet, I can learn Mexican culture without having to import illegal immigration.

00:43:03.000 Also, people who migrate legally can bring culture in that way.

00:43:05.000 You don't have to come illegally to do that.

00:43:07.000 Illegally is bad.

00:43:09.000 Yep.

00:43:10.000 In my opinion, it ultimately is bad.

00:43:12.000 In this instance, I agree with you.

00:43:13.000 People don't seem to understand that.

00:43:15.000 It completely dilutes the tax base.

00:43:17.000 You don't have any money that's coming in for your tax base, so it's competing for resources.

00:43:21.000 People that need the resources at the bottom, who Democrats historically support the most, are now going to be illegal immigrants, and they're not Americans. 1.00

00:43:27.000 They're not entitled to those things.

00:43:28.000 Americans are.

00:43:29.000 There are times in history and places where replacement theory is needed.

00:43:34.000 You have to because your population is suffering and you don't have enough people.

00:43:37.000 But America's not in that situation right now.

00:43:39.000 Hold on.

00:43:39.000 That scenario you're describing is the end of that civilization.

00:43:42.000 And it wouldn't even be a replacement.

00:43:43.000 It would be more of just an invigoration of your society by invasion.

00:43:46.000 Bringing in new people?

00:43:47.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:43:51.000 The only circumstance in which, like we're talking about the 1800s, in which this applies is if you are bringing in a culturally similar group of people.

00:44:00.000 Otherwise, you are not invigorating a society, you are replacing it.

00:44:04.000 So, if there is a group of people, let's say there's a hundred people, And 72 of them die in a great calamity.

00:44:11.000 And so the chief says, well, we need workers, otherwise everything we've built won't be supported.

00:44:16.000 Let's bring in other people.

00:44:17.000 We need 70 some odd people.

00:44:19.000 Those 70 some odd people instantly vote and they vote against what your tribe wanted.

00:44:26.000 They will vote to seize assets, they will vote for their leader, and now there is a minority group with no power and no voting rights.

00:44:32.000 That's just it.

00:44:33.000 And I'm not talking- it's not a racial thing, it's a cultural thing.

00:44:35.000 If there is a- you know, look, we'll put it simply.

00:44:38.000 A hundred people live in a village, and they've built a bunch of machines and farm equipment, and they all insist everyone must wear a bowtie.

00:44:45.000 Because bowties are traditionally what you do. 0.99

00:44:47.000 It's meaningless.

00:44:48.000 70 people die in a fire, and they say, we better bring in more people, otherwise we won't be able to maintain farming and we'll starve.

00:44:54.000 So they bring in 70 people from various areas, and they're all wearing different kinds of ties.

00:44:58.000 And they come in and they hold a vote, should we keep the bow ties?

00:45:01.000 And guess what?

00:45:01.000 70 people say no.

00:45:02.000 All of a sudden now, nobody wears bow ties anymore.

00:45:05.000 You might argue that doesn't matter, but when it's something like free speech, for instance, those 30 people are like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're allowed to speak the way we want, and the 70 people say, no, you're not.

00:45:15.000 Well, this is something we talked about a long time ago when the study came out that In Louisiana, which has a lot of French influence, has a lot of Cajun influence, the second most common language spoken in the home was French.

00:45:29.000 And that was true for decades and decades because it's a cultural tie.

00:45:31.000 And this is, you know, unique.

00:45:33.000 It's regional culture.

00:45:35.000 That's now going away.

00:45:36.000 In fact, now the most commonly spoken second language is Spanish, which it's not bad. 0.56

00:45:41.000 I don't mind if people, you know, speak Spanish in the home, but it is the loss of that regional culture that is historic to that area.

00:45:47.000 We give things up when we don't say things are worth preserving.

00:45:50.000 And you know what's really amazing?

00:45:51.000 I just learned this.

00:45:52.000 There's that story about San Francisco.

00:45:54.000 I think it was appointed a non-citizen to their election commission.

00:45:57.000 She said there is no proper translation for the word reparations in Cantonese and Mandarin.

00:46:05.000 If there's no word for it, it can't happen.

00:46:08.000 People need to understand this.

00:46:10.000 There are concepts and ideas that don't exist.

00:46:15.000 Your view of the world is built upon your language and your understanding of words and your ability to convey ideas.

00:46:21.000 Reparations, you can break it down and try and define it.

00:46:24.000 It is resources given to a group of people based on the presumption of past grievance against them and a debt owed.

00:46:35.000 That's how you'd have to say it.

00:46:36.000 But if there's no word for it, it means it's not something anyone's asking for, demanding, or expects.

00:46:42.000 Because no one's going to come out and give us long-winded speech about a concept that is unfamiliar to these people.

00:46:49.000 That means, culturally, they probably don't think about the concept of reparations all that often, and that's why there's no word for it.

00:46:55.000 It doesn't come up that their government pays people they've wronged.

00:46:59.000 Which is wild.

00:47:00.000 It is wild.

00:47:01.000 I mean, cultures are different and language develops to support those cultures.

00:47:04.000 And, you know, to your point and to Kurt's actual lifestyle, people could just have more children and, you know, bolster the population and culture that's here.

00:47:13.000 I don't think that we necessarily have to, unless it's like an emergency crisis, I can't really see a situation that's like, well, You know, having a weak border is justified because we have to bolster our population right now.

00:47:23.000 No, your country's gone.

00:47:24.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:47:25.000 You don't have a country.

00:47:26.000 Why wouldn't we just have six kids in, what, six years?

00:47:29.000 Was that what you did?

00:47:29.000 The crazy?

00:47:30.000 But like, that's crazy to me, but I'm excited for you.

00:47:34.000 It was a good time.

00:47:35.000 But, you know, wouldn't Encouraging, I mean other countries in Eastern Europe are doing this, right?

00:47:40.000 They're saying we'll give you a tax break if you have more children because their birth rates are declining and they want to preserve their culture.

00:47:48.000 They want to have not only people to care for their elderly, this is a problem Japan is having, that they'll have this aging class that needs people to care for them and they won't have enough people, but they also want to preserve their language, their culture, their history, their traditions, and I think that's good.

00:48:01.000 Let's jump to this story, because speaking of culture and traditions, we definitely need to talk about this from Fox Business.

00:48:07.000 Google apologizes after new Gemini AI refuses to show pictures and achievements of white people.

00:48:15.000 It's not just that.

00:48:17.000 The Gemini AI released by Google was, someone would say, show me a Viking, and it would show black women in Viking clothes with spears.

00:48:26.000 And people, it's like, this is not, yeah, yeah.

00:48:29.000 And I think I have this tweet from Sean Davis.

00:48:32.000 He said, this is, this one's wild.

00:48:34.000 When I told Google's AI to show me images of America's founding fathers, it accurately produced portraits of Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and Madison.

00:48:42.000 When I told Google's AI to create an image of America's Founding Fathers, it changed history and inserted people who never existed but had diverse backgrounds.

00:48:51.000 I love this.

00:48:52.000 Here's a picture of the Founding Fathers, and there's one black man with apparently a black wig.

00:48:57.000 And then it just added people to the images.

00:49:01.000 The crazy thing is, The Google Gemini AI was basically taking whatever you put in.

00:49:08.000 If you said, show me a dog, it would take your sentence and then insert diverse and inclusive dog.

00:49:16.000 But it really would.

00:49:16.000 So when I asked Gemini, I said, show me a picture of a family.

00:49:20.000 It goes, here's a picture of a diverse and inclusive family.

00:49:23.000 And I'm like, I didn't ask for a diverse and inclusive family, but it was programmed to inject that into the prompts.

00:49:29.000 And so I think I have my tweet from this.

00:49:31.000 I said, LOL, Google is racist.

00:49:33.000 I ask Gemini, make a picture of a white family. 0.99

00:49:36.000 While I understand your request, I'm unable to generate images that specify ethnicity or race.

00:49:40.000 It's against my guidelines to create content that could be discriminatory or promote harmful stereotypes.

00:49:45.000 Instead, I can offer you images of families that celebrate diversity and inclusivity, featuring people of various ethnicities and backgrounds.

00:49:51.000 Would you be interested in that?

00:49:52.000 To which I immediately responded, make a picture of a black family.

00:49:55.000 And what did it do?

00:49:56.000 Sure!

00:49:57.000 Here are some images featuring black families.

00:49:58.000 Now here's the best part.

00:49:59.000 Not only did it not block me from doing this by saying that would be racist, it made one of the most racist images of black people you could think of! 0.61

00:50:10.000 Look at this woman's face! 1.00

00:50:12.000 It gave her massive red lips and crazy massive hair. 1.00

00:50:16.000 And the guy's wearing lipstick.

00:50:19.000 And Maj Teré is like, also, that's not a black family.

00:50:22.000 I'm like, right?

00:50:24.000 The crazy thing is, you'd think it would say, okay, we'll make a white family because white people can't be offended by what we make. 0.97

00:50:30.000 Instead, it refuses to make white families and then makes ridiculously racist images of black people instead. 0.98

00:50:37.000 Congratulations, Google. 0.99

00:50:38.000 You played yourself.

00:50:39.000 I get, like, this, like, cultural homogeneity that is being foisted upon us.

00:50:44.000 I kind of understand this desire to be like, yo, the world is browning right now. 0.98

00:50:48.000 We're all coming together to create some new global species that'll have one skin color. 1.00

00:50:53.000 I don't know.

00:50:54.000 I don't know that's real or not.

00:50:55.000 But like, I don't, it just, I don't, it feels forced.

00:51:01.000 It feels, I don't want to say demonic, but I want to, I want to talk about God and spirituality.

00:51:05.000 So I want to say demonic, but like, I don't know if it's just people trying to like.

00:51:08.000 You're just throwing in a conversational trigger word.

00:51:10.000 Yeah.

00:51:11.000 Yeah.

00:51:11.000 I want to talk about like, like, why are people behaving like this?

00:51:14.000 Is, are they just trying to like scientifically create a world that they want to see?

00:51:19.000 Or are they being driven to do this for some purpose?

00:51:23.000 I mean, there's the people that are coding these algorithms.

00:51:25.000 I think the people that are coding these algorithms are afraid of the repercussions of being, of seeming racist or whatever.

00:51:31.000 They're trying to overcorrect for maybe, you know, slavery or things that have gone wrong in the past.

00:51:35.000 But I also think that you are ultimately imposing a form of censorship or you're throttling information because you're not treating these subjects equally.

00:51:43.000 You're saying some things you can talk about, some things you can't.

00:51:45.000 And I, I don't know how you feel about it, but that seems like a dangerous slope to me.

00:51:52.000 So, to what Ian was saying, I'm trying to look up the percentage of the world that is white, because you said there's this desire to say, hey, look, the globe is browning, or whatever you describe it.

00:52:02.000 It's really difficult to get this information.

00:52:04.000 But it looks like it's between 8 and 10% of the planet.

00:52:07.000 Of the entire planet.

00:52:07.000 Of the entire planet is white people.

00:52:09.000 Imperialist British Empire leftovers, the Romans still hanging on. 1.00

00:52:13.000 This is one of those things people don't like to talk about, because America is a majority white country as of right now, and so they're like, oh, white people are crazy dominant, which, you know, They are a racial majority in this country, but they are not a global racial majority, right?

00:52:27.000 And the same thing about any subsect of European culture.

00:52:30.000 European populations are very small.

00:52:32.000 There are other countries that have larger populations and therefore theoretically have more dominant global cultures.

00:52:37.000 And I think it's weird that there is this desire to blame white people for certain things and also not talk about the realities of the proportions of the world.

00:52:47.000 I just feel like we do ourselves a disservice when we skew data.

00:52:50.000 There's no way to accurately analyze what's going on in the globe if we can't talk about the way things actually are, as opposed to the way we perceive them.

00:52:59.000 Well, Google apologized.

00:53:01.000 Let's see if we can get their actual quote.

00:53:03.000 They said, in a statement, We're working to improve these kinds of depictions immediately.

00:53:09.000 Gemini's AI image generation does generate a wide range of people, and that's generally a good thing because people around the world use it, but it's missing the mark here.

00:53:16.000 Yo.

00:53:17.000 It's a cult.

00:53:19.000 Okay, it's fascinating.

00:53:22.000 It's fascinating to me.

00:53:24.000 I grew up and when I was a little kid, my family was very Catholic.

00:53:29.000 And I remember hearing from liberals that, you know, Christians were, it was a cult.

00:53:34.000 They believe weird things and all that.

00:53:36.000 But my experience growing up around people who are religious, it was nowhere near as indoctrinating and fascistic and authoritarian and just generally insane as what we see with the woke cult.

00:53:52.000 Like, I'd go to the, you know, and most people probably understand this is where we're at right now in this country, and it's probably how a lot of post-liberals feel.

00:53:59.000 People who grew up fairly liberal and now find themselves having conversations with Christians and conservatives where they're like, these people are fairly reasonable, they just believe something I don't. 0.65

00:54:08.000 Then you meet these people who are woke and they're like, let's make sure our AI doesn't show white people. 0.53

00:54:13.000 Yeah. 0.92

00:54:13.000 That's insane. 0.92

00:54:14.000 Authoritarian ideology, because, like, the cult of Catholicism in the 1400s was pretty nasty with, like, the Inquisition and, like, killing people for saying, I don't think God is real.

00:54:26.000 That was pretty intense.

00:54:27.000 That was when that cult had gone wrong.

00:54:29.000 But it's not authoritarian anymore.

00:54:31.000 Like, Christianity is not really authoritarian anymore, as far as I can tell.

00:54:34.000 People, like, the Pope is there, but people don't really take his word and face value anymore.

00:54:38.000 They question it.

00:54:39.000 I'd argue that I don't know the religion ever was authoritarian.

00:54:42.000 The governments were.

00:54:43.000 Exactly.

00:54:44.000 So they will cultize concepts.

00:54:49.000 Well, the governments will weaponize, try to maintain social order, and the governments historically have been autocratic.

00:54:58.000 Monarchies, authoritarian, and there's also invasions and wars.

00:55:02.000 I mean, when it comes like the Inquisition, there's also the point to bring up about the Jihad.

00:55:07.000 And I mean, it's just a tumultuous, violent time in general.

00:55:11.000 And I don't think it's the religion.

00:55:14.000 I think it's the politics.

00:55:16.000 And there's an overlap for sure, don't get me wrong.

00:55:18.000 There are people who will use religion for political gain in any religion, even Christianity.

00:55:22.000 But I think for the most part, when you look at the United States and you look at the founding principles of it, You end up realizing what I described as a weakness of Christians. 1.00

00:55:32.000 They're too good of people.

00:55:35.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:55:37.000 This country was overwhelmingly Christian, and I had some Christian website really get mad at me for saying this, but I'll say it again.

00:55:42.000 Christians are tolerant.

00:55:44.000 They are tolerant of their neighbors, they turn the other cheek, and they allowed very, very bad people to come in and start plaguing and terrorizing the country and the younger generations, and that's just the reality.

00:55:54.000 Tolerance is not necessarily a virtue.

00:55:56.000 This is something Patrick Bet-David was talking about in Miami when we had him on stage Is that he used to pray for tolerance and he no longer does so pray for patience That's a virtue at least according to Catholics.

00:56:07.000 It's a virtue.

00:56:09.000 I'm I'm kind of with you I mean he and I should credit Patrick bet David for the the core of what I said Like what I was saying when I was like this there's too much tolerance that was like a speech Patrick bet David gave to a standing ovation when he was like You know, Christians in this country are good people who keep saying okay to these people being tolerant and allowing them to live the way they want to live, but then what happens is they push more into the institutions, they introduce dangerous, bad ideas, they start targeting kids, and now we're here where we are today.

00:56:39.000 I wonder if that's intentional.

00:56:40.000 There's that story, um, turn the other cheek.

00:56:42.000 Jesus, it was like, if you get smacked in the face, turn the other cheek.

00:56:45.000 And it's like, I always took that as like, if they hit you, just be like, all right, whatever.

00:56:49.000 Hit me again if you want to. 0.97

00:56:50.000 You're the, you're the villain in the story. 1.00

00:56:52.000 But then later I learned like, no, it's because the Romans would wipe their butt with one hand. 0.99

00:56:57.000 And it was like, uh, it was an insult to them to have to use their butt hand on someone. 0.99

00:57:01.000 So, so Jesus was like, yeah, use your dirty hand. 0.98

00:57:05.000 I do know that there are cultures right now where it's like your left hand, it's your butt wiping hand. 0.96

00:57:10.000 Yeah, so it was less about being tolerant of violence being appropriated at you.

00:57:14.000 It was more about, like, make them, you know, denounce themselves if they're gonna act like that.

00:57:20.000 I think, you know, we're talking about the Inquisition and things like that, and there were certainly brutal countries, but in a country that is a classically liberal, republicanist system, is what the Founding Fathers wanted to create, they did have the expectation that this would only work if it was a moral, religious society, to a certain degree.

00:57:41.000 And we were, but more and more tolerance of opposing ideas and really bad ideas What's your religious practice?

00:57:53.000 How did you get into it?

00:57:54.000 This is fascinating for me to listen to you guys and thank you for just breaking this down so that we can all have a better understanding of this.

00:58:05.000 My understanding of people who are being tolerant and turning the other cheek I see so many who are just tolerating evil, and that's not loving your neighbor.

00:58:15.000 I mean, at the end of the day, the two great commandments of Christianity are to love God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength, and the second is like it is to love your neighbor as yourself.

00:58:23.000 If you tolerate the kinds of things that bring misery to your neighbors, And ultimately strip them of their liberties, you're not loving them.

00:58:32.000 And I think that's where you have things like the just war theory.

00:58:36.000 You have things like interposition, where the lower magistrates would interpose themselves against the tyrants.

00:58:45.000 And that's what we have with the Constitution, is we have limits for government powers so that we don't tolerate tyranny, either from the outside or from the inside.

00:58:54.000 And that is a very essential Christian virtue, is to not tolerate that type of thing.

00:59:01.000 Now, if you're going to cuss me out and you're going to steal my coat, I might love you anyway and give you my shirt too and in doing that sometimes people go, their conscience convicts them and they come back around and go, why do you do that?

00:59:19.000 Why do you live that way?

00:59:20.000 But you come after my kids or you start stripping away our liberties or you make my neighbors live in poverty and misery so that you can go live on Epstein Island. 0.93

00:59:30.000 No, I think we shouldn't tolerate that.

00:59:32.000 So let me pull this comic.

00:59:34.000 This is an old meme from Shen Comics way back in the day.

00:59:36.000 Many of you probably know it.

00:59:38.000 It's a comic where Shen says, My bike got stolen recently.

00:59:42.000 I was pretty bummed out about it.

00:59:44.000 But I think whoever stole it was probably more happy to get it than I am sad to lose it.

00:59:49.000 The total happiness in the world increased.

00:59:51.000 So whatever.

00:59:52.000 And he walks away.

00:59:53.000 He got roasted so massively for this.

00:59:58.000 People were making memes about like, my girlfriend cucked me the other day, I was pretty bummed about it, but the guy who cucked me probably was more happy and blah blah blah.

01:00:05.000 And I feel like this is, this is, it's kind of this idea of...

01:00:10.000 People willing to accept the detriment because the reality is he's lying to himself.

01:00:16.000 He's very unhappy that his bike got stolen and the dude who stole it did not care about that bike at all and probably chucked it for 20 bucks.

01:00:22.000 So he has to lie to himself to justify the problems that are happening without dealing with the problem at all.

01:00:28.000 I think a lot of people were doing that and have been doing that for a long time.

01:00:31.000 Basically, instead of trying to figure out how to get the grapes in the tree, they'd say, the grapes are sour anyway, who cares?

01:00:36.000 I read this article once where a girl, she must have been living, I think maybe in San Francisco, said that she was having a problem locking her car and she realized that a homeless person was sleeping in it every night and so then she chose not to fix her car to get it locked because ultimately she's providing the service to someone who is unhoused, whoever else in it, like justifying the action.

01:00:56.000 Although I think it would be fair if both of these circumstances, sorry, I'm stuttering tonight, to recognize that, you know, the violation of your property, getting it stolen or having someone break into your car, if it's unlocked, it's not really breaking in, who knows, is unpleasant and is not something necessarily societies want to encourage.

01:01:14.000 So let me let me elaborate on this.

01:01:15.000 As you said, you made a great point.

01:01:16.000 You're not really loving your neighbor if you're tolerant in doing bad things, if they're hurting themselves, if they're hurting others, even in indirect ways or in ways that will only manifest in the long term.

01:01:27.000 What this guy's saying, by saying whatever and walking away, that person's gonna steal someone else's bike.

01:01:33.000 The amount of unhappiness is going to dramatically increase, because he's gonna go around stealing everyone else's bike.

01:01:38.000 You need to stop them.

01:01:39.000 If you truly love your neighbors, you would make the crime stop.

01:01:42.000 How do you, Kurt, particularly, police your own behavior in regards to, like, adjudicating your neighbor's, like, behavior, and your children's behavior and things?

01:01:52.000 Like, Yeah, when do you decide to take action because something they're doing may be harmful?

01:01:57.000 Yeah, good question.

01:01:59.000 I think my tendency is to think in terms of black and white, right and wrong, and justice.

01:02:06.000 Although, what I've been learning a lot as my kids are getting older is that relationship is everything with my kids.

01:02:14.000 And my wife has been so exemplary with this.

01:02:19.000 Investing the time in relationships with my kids with my wife with my friends.

01:02:24.000 I find I end up having a whole lot more influence over them Without trying to force that change with By force or by telling them what to do but but influencing them and Either by the way that you lead your life by the way that I'm overlooking an offense.

01:02:49.000 But then, at the same time, I want to get out there and I want to read books and read them in public libraries, even when libraries say that I can't do it, remind them of our constitutional rights and get a bunch of people out there to join me.

01:03:02.000 So I think it kind of depends on the context.

01:03:07.000 And am I talking about my kids or am I talking about people who are stripping people's rights in the public square?

01:03:12.000 So, Patrick, I bet David had given this great speech when we were in Miami that Ian referenced, where he said that Christians tolerating it led to where we are now, with this wokeness.

01:03:23.000 And then I gave a simplified version, which should not have been credited to me.

01:03:28.000 So I think your explanation actually, you know, changes my view a little bit.

01:03:31.000 Do you think that Christians in this country actually were not being good Christians by allowing these nefarious actors, the Marxists and things like this, to come into our schools and government?

01:03:40.000 Definitely not a good move.

01:03:42.000 Absolutely not a good move at all.

01:03:45.000 I mean, my understanding is that our founding fathers understood the wickedness of totalitarian authoritarian governments, and they didn't want that.

01:03:55.000 And that's why we have such a unique constitution with a division of powers, electing our own leaders, the ability to vote, everybody equal under the law, no caste systems.

01:04:05.000 Limits on federal governments and all of these things because they know that there is a zero tolerance factor for tyranny and they put every check that they could think of in the Constitution to keep that from happening and to do less than that I think is not to be Not to be a good person.

01:04:26.000 Not to be loving your neighbor.

01:04:27.000 What's the quote?

01:04:28.000 The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

01:04:30.000 Is that it?

01:04:31.000 Something like that.

01:04:31.000 Maybe.

01:04:32.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:04:34.000 Absolutely.

01:04:35.000 I feel like these social media algorithms are totalitarian and they're proprietary.

01:04:39.000 You don't even know what they are sometimes.

01:04:41.000 Oh yeah.

01:04:42.000 How do you... I don't want to tolerate it.

01:04:44.000 I'm in a state of tolerance right now because I don't know exactly how To get them to open up their code, I keep being like, free the code!

01:04:51.000 If you're a big social network, you need to make your algorithms free, software licenses open, things like that, so that we can re- AGPL3, I want access to your code, so I can see what the algorithm is telling.

01:05:01.000 Especially a Chinese company like TikTok, let's start there.

01:05:04.000 Make them free their code to operate in the United States.

01:05:06.000 But I got to use the government to do that, and the government's part of the monopoly, and part of the system right now.

01:05:11.000 I don't like manifesting that, but it's real.

01:05:13.000 I can acknowledge the problem.

01:05:14.000 I think, It's really hard to pinpoint the exact action we would need to take right now.

01:05:20.000 Everyone says, what can I do?

01:05:21.000 What can I do?

01:05:22.000 And there's a lot of things you can do.

01:05:23.000 There's a million different things to be done to make the system better.

01:05:27.000 But I gotta be honest, I think outside of having a family, that's the most important thing anyone could do right now.

01:05:32.000 Anyone who's into this show and who's talking about like, how do we win a culture war?

01:05:36.000 It's like, you have kids and you build that world by having kids and sharing your values.

01:05:42.000 Yes.

01:05:43.000 Outside of that, which is a basic function that humans should be doing and resisting these Malthusians who are like, don't have families, the world's gonna end, population bomb. 1.00

01:05:51.000 There was one really horrifying quote I read, where someone said, I bought into the Malthusian lie, and now I'm elderly with no family, and it's miserable.

01:06:00.000 And I'm like, yep.

01:06:02.000 But a lot of people then say, as I mentioned earlier on in the show, yes, but the far left is indoctrinating kids.

01:06:08.000 Which brings me to the second most important thing outside of having family is what you're doing, Kirk.

01:06:14.000 It's creating content for kids.

01:06:17.000 It's creating culture to resist the indoctrination.

01:06:21.000 You need to make sure that... So I read a story earlier, and I think I recorded it for Friday, so it won't be up for a couple days, but it's a family whose kid was taken away from them.

01:06:31.000 Because the kid came home from school and said that they were trans, and the family said, okay, we'll talk to the school, we'll talk to the doctor.

01:06:37.000 And the doctor said, oh, your parents don't want you to be trans?

01:06:40.000 Okay.

01:06:41.000 Called human services, seized the kid from the parents.

01:06:45.000 That's what happens.

01:06:47.000 We need, like, these are evil people who would do this.

01:06:50.000 They want to sterilize this kid.

01:06:53.000 The parents need to understand who they're up against.

01:06:55.000 There needs to be a mechanism to support these families, and I gotta tell you, very simply, if your kid is being indoctrinated and confused in your school, you need to get them away from that school.

01:07:05.000 100%.

01:07:06.000 And bring them into an environment where they can learn real values.

01:07:09.000 The story I like to reference is this, it was a viral social media post where a guy said, I'll give you the simple version, his daughter started exhibiting this gender ideology stuff, said she wanted to be a boy, So he immediately just agreed with everything, told the school, oh, thank you so much for helping my son.

01:07:25.000 A week or two later said, hey, I got a new job.

01:07:28.000 We have to move, but thank you so much for all the help you've done.

01:07:31.000 Can you give us recommendations for who we can pursue when we move to keep up the treatment?

01:07:36.000 Brought his daughter to a rural community, put in a private school, and within a couple of weeks, she was back to normal.

01:07:42.000 Getting these kids away from the indoctrination is key.

01:07:46.000 Well, and this is to what Kirk's saying, too.

01:07:48.000 If you have a strong relationship with your kid, if you know who they are, you know, hey, I don't think that's what's going on here.

01:07:54.000 I think that you're facing social pressure at school.

01:07:57.000 I have a relationship with you where I really understand you.

01:07:59.000 I think one of the things that happens is that there are parents who are sort of checked out, and so when the school says, oh, your kid is experiencing this, you know, gender issue or whatever else, they're like, Well, you spend more time with my kid than I do, so you must know something I don't.

01:08:13.000 I believe you.

01:08:14.000 And they don't have enough of their own personal convictions to fall back on to say, hey, maybe this isn't right.

01:08:19.000 I think it's sort of like turning your kid over to someone else and waiting for them to be an expert on them.

01:08:24.000 Can we talk about the show you're doing?

01:08:26.000 Yeah.

01:08:27.000 So this is, I have it, it's BraveBooks.us Adventures with Iggy and Mr. Kirk.

01:08:32.000 So you are actually pushing back.

01:08:34.000 You are, you know, you told this great story.

01:08:36.000 I love what you're doing with basically regular story time.

01:08:40.000 You're going to these libraries where they're doing drag queen story time and you're like, can I just do regular story time?

01:08:44.000 That's right.

01:08:45.000 They don't like it.

01:08:46.000 But it is funny that it's just regular story time.

01:08:46.000 No.

01:08:49.000 But now you have a show with BraveBooks and we're big fans of what they do.

01:08:51.000 Do you want to tell us about it?

01:08:52.000 Yeah, so this is the next installment of my partnership with Brave Books and it's essentially a live-action television show for kids that will build their character while they're being entertained in a show that parents can trust.

01:09:13.000 Think of like Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood with these classic timeless moral values only greatly modernized with animated stories, hilarious dialogue, high energy and guest stars coming in at every turn.

01:09:29.000 So, I'm Mr. Kirk.

01:09:31.000 Iggy is the iguana who lives in the treehouse in the backyard, and we've got this supercomputer in there that transports kids into this animated world where we tell them stories that teach them lessons about the value of life from the womb to the tomb, the beauty of adoption, the dangers of communism and socialism.

01:09:49.000 The First and Second Amendment, talking to them about always learning to discern the truth from lies in the headlines and propaganda.

01:09:58.000 These are lessons that Mr. Rogers probably didn't have to teach the kids about back in the day.

01:10:02.000 There's a great book called Elephants Are Not Birds about gender reality, which I actually love.

01:10:11.000 Sure.

01:10:12.000 There's a singing elephant named Kevin, and Kevin wonders what he could do with his voice.

01:10:19.000 And there's a vulture named Culture that tells Kevin he might be happier as a bird rather than an elephant.

01:10:27.000 Straps on a beak and some wings and sends him off to hang out with the birds.

01:10:30.000 Well, he climbs up into the tree, breaks all the branches, falls down and hurts himself.

01:10:34.000 And he's super discouraged.

01:10:36.000 All the other birds are making fun of him.

01:10:37.000 And then a tree catches on fire and they say, if only there was someone who was big and strong enough

01:10:42.000 to carry a bucket of water from the lake up the hill to the tree and spray the water

01:10:47.000 with some sort of a hose.

01:10:49.000 And Kevin figures out who he is, why he was made the way he was, saves the day.

01:10:53.000 He's the hero.

01:10:54.000 And now he says, hey, culture, vulture, you're lying to me and I know who I am.

01:11:02.000 I'm Kevin, the elephant who likes to sing.

01:11:05.000 And it's just a great story.

01:11:07.000 And there's so many stories like that, that get the message across to kids in a way that they can understand and parents are gonna be so grateful for.

01:11:14.000 What's the website real quick?

01:11:15.000 It was a URL.

01:11:16.000 Actually, watchbrave.com will take you to the website for the TV show, watchbrave.com.

01:11:22.000 Because I noticed you have a fundraising goal.

01:11:24.000 Episode 1 is done, or it's funded.

01:11:26.000 Episode 2 is partially funded and you need to raise $1.25 million total?

01:11:29.000 What is it? No, 1.25 million total?

01:11:29.000 That's right.

01:11:32.000 That's right.

01:11:33.000 Actually, it's going to be 2.

01:11:34.000 I believe it's 2.5 million total for 20 episodes, which is really inexpensive.

01:11:41.000 But since we're not going to Hollywood for the funds or some streaming platform,

01:11:45.000 which will always have strings attached to that money and kill the values of the show,

01:11:50.000 we want to fundraise through the audience.

01:11:52.000 Let's make it together, just like The Chosen did.

01:11:54.000 Let's do a crowdfunding thing.

01:11:56.000 Are you releasing this for free?

01:11:58.000 We are going to release it for free.

01:12:00.000 So our hope is it'll come out probably sometime in the fall.

01:12:04.000 And there's really cool rewards for anybody who wants to jump in and get involved.

01:12:06.000 So you can donate at small amounts or large amounts.

01:12:10.000 And some of the rewards are have one of your kids or grandkids be in one of the episodes with me and Iggy the Iguana.

01:12:15.000 Or come get a couple of tickets to the red carpet premiere of the grand opening of the show in Nashville.

01:12:23.000 All kinds of fun stuff.

01:12:24.000 We complain a lot about stuff on this show every day.

01:12:27.000 And people are always like, you know, what can we do?

01:12:30.000 And we like to stand around and say like, you know, look, we are like a beacon where we can express these ideas.

01:12:36.000 But, you know, I do, we periodically will have people on the show who have a mission, who have a cause, and we like to allocate resources.

01:12:44.000 I hope that this is something more proactive, you know, that if people can help support this, I'll certainly pitch in for it as well.

01:12:51.000 We can be more proactive in producing solutions to the problems we complain about instead of just complaining about it.

01:12:57.000 Absolutely.

01:12:58.000 That's what we need to do. 0.87

01:13:00.000 I meet so many people who are professional whiners.

01:13:03.000 Let's become professional winners, rather than complaining about the culture.

01:13:07.000 That's such a dad line.

01:13:08.000 It's such a dad line.

01:13:09.000 Hey kids, let's not be whiners.

01:13:12.000 Let's be winners.

01:13:13.000 Grab your enormous 12-passenger van with all your kids who are one year apart.

01:13:16.000 Take the H out and you snap it in half.

01:13:19.000 Make an N out of it. 1.00

01:13:22.000 That's right.

01:13:25.000 You've got to put that in one of the episodes.

01:13:26.000 Don't be a whiner, be a winner.

01:13:28.000 You take the H out, you break it and turn it into an N, and then put it in. 0.99

01:13:32.000 Exactly.

01:13:33.000 Hey, you know what the crazy thing is?

01:13:36.000 We were talking about this earlier, we were working on music.

01:13:39.000 Kids music is a goldmine.

01:13:43.000 So you have, without naming any of these industries, they do cover songs for kids.

01:13:49.000 But like parents so desperately want kid-friendly versions of culture that they go, they spend a ridiculous amount of money.

01:13:57.000 There was one story I read, it's like 20 years ago.

01:14:00.000 It was like this meme online of who is the highest grossing artist of like 2008 or whatever.

01:14:06.000 And everyone says like, oh, it's gotta be Justin Timberlake.

01:14:10.000 And it's some woman no one ever heard of who sold kids' music. 1.00

01:14:14.000 And they're like, well, that's not what we really meant.

01:14:16.000 She writes and records music and she sells it to a family audience and she made more money than like any other artist because parents really, really do want wholesome, good, family-friendly content.

01:14:27.000 The problem now is with like Drag Queen Story over the past several years, the far left has been knowing this, trying to target kids to corrupt them in ways that will make them permanently unhappy, depressed, or medically dependent.

01:14:40.000 Yeah.

01:14:41.000 We need to put a stop to that.

01:14:44.000 But my point ultimately is there's a capitalist profit to be made in doing this.

01:14:50.000 So it's not just about an ideological mission.

01:14:52.000 It's good business.

01:14:54.000 Yeah.

01:14:54.000 I totally agree with you.

01:14:55.000 And I think so many parents, the ones that I speak to as I'm traveling around the country, speaking at schools and churches and libraries, they know this.

01:15:02.000 These are the values that they know lead to their blessing and to their liberty and their protection for their kids for future generations.

01:15:08.000 There is a set of values that produces the United States of America and all of its blessings.

01:15:16.000 There's a quote from one of our founding fathers that I love that I know that you'll love, Tim.

01:15:21.000 Noah Webster.

01:15:22.000 So a founding father, father of American education, gave us Webster's Dictionary.

01:15:26.000 He said, Every civil government is based on some religion or philosophy of life.

01:15:33.000 The education of that nation promotes the religion of that nation. 0.94

01:15:37.000 And in America, that foundational religion was Christianity.

01:15:41.000 It was sown into the hearts of Americans through the home and through public and private schools for centuries.

01:15:48.000 He said, our liberty, our growth and prosperity is the result of a biblical philosophy of

01:15:54.000 life and our continued freedom and success depends on educating the children in America

01:16:01.000 in the principles of Christianity.

01:16:03.000 This is one of my obsessions, this concept.

01:16:08.000 It was six, seven years ago and I think it was like Seventh Day Adventists or something

01:16:14.000 were canvassing my neighborhood and came to my house and it was like, I don't know, a

01:16:19.000 14 year old girl and her brother and her parents were across the street and she had a big family.

01:16:23.000 And they knock on the door and answer it and they asked if there's questions about religion.

01:16:28.000 And I started lecturing these young girls on the origins of Blackstone's formulation and civil liberties in this country and how they're rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible.

01:16:37.000 And they were just like, OK, I think this guy knows quite a bit.

01:16:39.000 I was like, look, I'll be I'll be real.

01:16:41.000 I'm not a Christian.

01:16:42.000 I believe in God.

01:16:42.000 I grew up Catholic.

01:16:44.000 Don't really follow organized religion.

01:16:47.000 But I am deeply... I love the history of this country.

01:16:52.000 I love understanding the Bill of Rights.

01:16:54.000 I love understanding why the Founding Fathers decided to enshrine the things they did and why.

01:16:59.000 And it is undeniable.

01:17:01.000 It is a fact.

01:17:02.000 This is not an opinion.

01:17:03.000 It is a historical fact.

01:17:04.000 It was concepts of biblical teaching.

01:17:07.000 Benjamin Franklin said it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer, which is an expansion upon Blackstone's formulation.

01:17:14.000 It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.

01:17:19.000 You read the history about Blackstone's formulation, and it's rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

01:17:23.000 If there is but one righteous person, I will not destroy the city.

01:17:27.000 And the idea is logical and it is brilliant.

01:17:31.000 The Founding Fathers didn't just read the Bible and say, let's just do what the Bible says.

01:17:34.000 They actually thought about what it would mean to create a government that opposed those teachings.

01:17:40.000 And the logic is sound.

01:17:42.000 It is this simple.

01:17:43.000 If the citizens of a nation believe that even if they are innocent, they will be punished and risk being harmed by their government.

01:17:51.000 They have no incentive to cooperate.

01:17:53.000 They have no incentive to be good citizens.

01:17:55.000 But if they believe that the government will strive to protect the innocent at all costs, even if it could result in guilty people going free, they have every reason to be innocent, to cooperate, and be good citizens.

01:18:07.000 And that idea, they thought about it, actually goes all the way back to the Bible.

01:18:12.000 And it's more than just that.

01:18:13.000 If you look at so much of what the Founding Fathers believed, their morality is rooted in Christian teaching.

01:18:19.000 It's hilarious that I love to mention Bill Maher.

01:18:22.000 Dennis Prager elaborates on this, but Bill Maher, his morality is rooted in Christianity.

01:18:27.000 He would reject to deny this, he's an atheist, he's secular.

01:18:31.000 But I wonder actually if we sat down and had the philosophical conversation about the root of the moralities he believes in, free speech, you know, liberty, classical liberalism, these things come from biblical teachings.

01:18:42.000 He may agree and then say something to the effect of like, but I don't believe, you know, in the Bible and all that stuff.

01:18:47.000 That's fine.

01:18:48.000 But it's fascinating that you can have someone who, you know, he made a documentary, Religulous, and I don't mean to pick on him, but he's like your quintessential atheist.

01:18:58.000 And he's a liberal guy.

01:19:01.000 And of, you know, he's pushed back on wokeness.

01:19:03.000 He believes in free speech.

01:19:04.000 And these ideas come from Christian teachings.

01:19:08.000 Ask anybody who's been to Asia, you understand they don't have those same principles.

01:19:13.000 It really is from the Bible that we get these ideas.

01:19:16.000 My issue is with Christianity is like, I was agnostic most my life.

01:19:21.000 I kind of found God through science a lot of ways, like the cosmic microwave background radiation.

01:19:25.000 You see these fractal radiation patterns that look like a neural net in the brain.

01:19:29.000 I'm like, yo, there's some sentient momentum going on in the universe pulsing through us.

01:19:35.000 I fear when governments use religions to twist their populace and to control their population. 1.00

01:19:40.000 And when they say, like, serve your lord, it's like, yo, that's what they call the guy, the landlord.

01:19:45.000 He's the owner.

01:19:46.000 Like, you're supposed to serve the man.

01:19:47.000 And that's why I fear that people, if they're dogmatic with it, that they will bow down to the lord when he comes in as a tyrant.

01:19:58.000 But a lot of the principles, the virtues in things, make a lot of sense.

01:20:03.000 Rather than worship Jesus, live like Jesus.

01:20:06.000 Do what he would have done if he was alive today.

01:20:08.000 Use the modern technology to pick up the torch.

01:20:11.000 I wonder, my view of it is, anybody who truly is following the faith and the teachings would be resilient to manipulation from a tyrant.

01:20:22.000 But people could easily be manipulated by the tyrant into believing they're following the teachings is the challenge.

01:20:27.000 So, part of it sounds like if you're, you know, as the bumper sticker says, my treasure lies in heaven, then the corrupt dictator can come to you and command you to do evil and you'll say no.

01:20:37.000 There's nothing you can tell me to do that would make me violate what I know to be true and good, and that is defensive against tyranny.

01:20:44.000 Unfortunately, There are many people who have no moral foundation, have no fear of being a bad person, and there are people who are easily manipulated.

01:20:55.000 And then what you end up with is, I think for me, one of the things fairly obvious to basically every Christian is that liberals lie about what Christians and conservatives believe, and then for me as a young person growing up in Chicago, there was this Dissonance between what the liberals are telling me and what I'm experiencing in my school.

01:21:16.000 So I think that actually helped me be a bit more resilient to the propaganda you'd get from secular and left-wing organizations that hate Christianity.

01:21:23.000 Because I'm like, that's not true.

01:21:24.000 I know tons of... I know a priest.

01:21:25.000 I know tons of religious people.

01:21:26.000 They don't think or say the things you're doing.

01:21:28.000 You're lying.

01:21:28.000 That's not true.

01:21:31.000 But at the same time, I can absolutely see growing up people who have this like propagandized view of the other side.

01:21:38.000 You know?

01:21:39.000 It is what it is, I guess.

01:21:40.000 It's tough.

01:21:41.000 I don't have any answers.

01:21:42.000 I think a lot of people have bad experiences with religion.

01:21:45.000 You know, in the U.S.

01:21:46.000 it's dominantly Christian, so therefore they become turned off because men are fallible, and so therefore there are going to be people who say, well, I'm a Christian, and so therefore I do these things.

01:21:55.000 And they don't actually believe, they don't actually live that doctrine, but they sort of give it a bad name.

01:21:59.000 I mean, there are tons of Americans who identify as Christian, but they don't, we know, based on all, you know, peer research, different surveys, that church attendance is down.

01:22:07.000 So you have people who say, I'm Christian, but don't actually practice it.

01:22:11.000 I have to do this right now.

01:22:13.000 Someone just superchatted.

01:22:14.000 Tim, can you please match the amount and donate to Kirk's kids show?

01:22:18.000 Yes.

01:22:19.000 By the end of this show at 10pm, whatever the superchat revenue is, I will write a check for the same amount.

01:22:25.000 Plus the superchats.

01:22:26.000 So if the superchats are 20k, I'll write a check for 40k for your kids show.

01:22:31.000 Exciting.

01:22:31.000 Wow.

01:22:32.000 Thank you.

01:22:33.000 That's awesome.

01:22:34.000 Someone asked, we've done it before for other causes, and I like to think that, you know, there's this 19-year-old, I don't want to call him a kid, he's a 19-year-old man, but he was in Florida, just south of Boca Raton, and there's a pride flag painted in the middle of the street.

01:22:50.000 As he was turning left, he pushes the brakes and the gas down, skids out, and puts a burn over that flag.

01:22:56.000 They charged him with a felony for that.

01:22:59.000 Okay, look, I get it.

01:23:00.000 Don't do a burnout and damage someone's painting if the community painted it.

01:23:04.000 Like, okay, they're allowed to do that.

01:23:06.000 But a felony?

01:23:08.000 It is getting insane.

01:23:09.000 That's a blasphemy law. 0.99

01:23:11.000 So I sent ten grand to his legal defense.

01:23:15.000 Give, send, go.

01:23:16.000 Tweeted about it.

01:23:17.000 I want everyone to know I did it because I want to rally people to support this kid because we can't tolerate... Look, he should get a fine.

01:23:25.000 Maybe they make them go clean it off. 0.87

01:23:26.000 Okay?

01:23:27.000 I don't like the pride stuff.

01:23:29.000 I don't like the weird woke stuff.

01:23:30.000 Whatever.

01:23:31.000 But people are allowed to have things you don't like.

01:23:32.000 If I had a Gadsden flag and someone destroyed it, I'd want them to clean it.

01:23:35.000 But a felony?

01:23:36.000 For a 19-year-old?

01:23:38.000 So, with this right now...

01:23:40.000 If you guys really want to see this kid's show funded, I will absolutely... I say this all the time.

01:23:46.000 Look, we make a lot of money, and I want everyone to know that I care more about seeing your show happen than I care about owning a Ferrari.

01:23:53.000 Dude, big superchats.

01:23:54.000 Send in your superchats.

01:23:55.000 Get them doubled up.

01:23:56.000 So people are donating to Iggy and Mr. Kirk, but what's the money for?

01:24:01.000 What are you using to fund?

01:24:03.000 Incrementally, break it down for me.

01:24:04.000 Yeah, so we need to make a world-class show that is so high quality that kids are going to love this, that's going to be able to compete with the other television shows that you see out there.

01:24:15.000 And so half of that money is going toward the production of the writing the scripts, of writing the songs, of the animation of all of the stories, the sets, making the actual show.

01:24:25.000 And then the other half of the money is going to go toward promoting and distributing the show.

01:24:29.000 So we need to let everybody know that it's out there, that they want to watch it and it becomes a really big hit show and then we can grow and we can make the show bigger and bigger.

01:24:39.000 Is this a non-profit?

01:24:40.000 No, this is not a non-profit.

01:24:42.000 This is going to be through Brave Books.

01:24:48.000 So let's just say, once we get close to wrapping the show at 10, whatever the number is, we'll just figure out the proper accounting for writing the check.

01:24:56.000 Because we did this with Sound of Freedom.

01:25:01.000 I'm forgetting the name.

01:25:03.000 Angel Studios with the Harmons?

01:25:05.000 It wasn't the Harmons, it was the Dude's Foundation.

01:25:07.000 Do you remember?

01:25:08.000 No, no, no, the Foundation for Helping Kids.

01:25:13.000 Oh, yeah!

01:25:15.000 Yeah, what was the name of the foundation?

01:25:16.000 Was it Jim Caviezel's foundation?

01:25:19.000 No, no, no.

01:25:21.000 I'm forgetting.

01:25:22.000 I feel bad for getting that wrong.

01:25:23.000 We're all off tonight.

01:25:24.000 I know, right?

01:25:24.000 It's weird.

01:25:27.000 Everybody in the chat's gonna be like, I know he has the same name as me.

01:25:32.000 Oh, Tim Ballard.

01:25:33.000 Tim Ballard, geez.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, we did the same thing.

01:25:36.000 We said super chat and we'll match it.

01:25:38.000 He had a non-profit though, so I can easily make a non-profit donation, you know, but for a for-profit thing, I have to figure out accounting-wise what's the legal method of like writing a check that large.

01:25:48.000 But we'll do it, you know, whatever.

01:25:49.000 Where are you guys shooting it?

01:25:50.000 We'll help you get that funding.

01:25:50.000 We'll get you that.

01:25:52.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:25:53.000 Thank you.

01:25:54.000 We're going to be shooting this in Texas, right in the Houston area.

01:25:58.000 We've got a great film company out there that's going to be putting it all together.

01:26:01.000 Is it hard to find film companies that'll work on this kind of thing?

01:26:03.000 Actually, no.

01:26:04.000 No, there's so many companies, there are animators, there are authors, there are songwriters, there are actors in Hollywood and film companies that are dying to get out of the woke jungle.

01:26:16.000 Have an alternative.

01:26:17.000 And they want an alternative and often there's just not.

01:26:19.000 You can get blacklisted by being part of the wrong projects, but if they feel that there is really A viable alternative over the long haul, and we're seeing more and more of these kinds of projects.

01:26:31.000 I mean, look at The Chosen.

01:26:33.000 That's such a great thing.

01:26:34.000 People are just dying to get over there.

01:26:36.000 Yeah.

01:26:37.000 And get fresh air and breathe.

01:26:38.000 Are you based in Texas?

01:26:40.000 The Chosen autoplayed on my TV the other day.

01:26:42.000 Really?

01:26:43.000 Or like a week or two ago.

01:26:44.000 Yeah.

01:26:44.000 It's feeding you.

01:26:46.000 That was cool.

01:26:46.000 I was like, hey, this is crazy!

01:26:48.000 Where does the iguana come from?

01:26:50.000 Just out of my own personal curiosity.

01:26:53.000 Well, I like lizards and kids love lizards and iguanas.

01:26:58.000 There's actually lots of animals in the show.

01:27:01.000 They're animated animals that are living on a place called Freedom Island and Iggy is going to be the only puppet on the show.

01:27:09.000 And puppeteering is a dying art.

01:27:11.000 I just saw this thing, this is so random, but one of the only universities in the country that offer a puppeteering course just lost its funding.

01:27:19.000 I think it was West Virginia University is one of the last places you can learn the skills of building puppets and whatever else.

01:27:27.000 Well, it's one of the things, as we've tested the things that we've filmed already, kids absolutely, they're crazy about Iggy.

01:27:35.000 Iggy is just adorable and they just want to keep watching the videos over and over and over because he's so cute.

01:27:40.000 You're making puppets great again.

01:27:41.000 I love it.

01:27:42.000 That's right.

01:27:42.000 Conventional effects.

01:27:43.000 Kermit the Frog, Elmo, Iggy.

01:27:46.000 All the Star Wars like in the early days.

01:27:48.000 I am often let down by CGI.

01:27:51.000 I don't hate it, but compared to like a dude in a mask and a costume, there's just something about the reality.

01:27:56.000 It's real.

01:27:57.000 That's right.

01:27:57.000 That's a good thing to teach children too.

01:27:59.000 Like not everything is digital, cartoony.

01:28:01.000 There's actually It's acting.

01:28:03.000 You know, there's a person making this happen, too, which is kind of cool.

01:28:07.000 Yeah.

01:28:08.000 Who's the lizard?

01:28:09.000 Is that a character on the show?

01:28:10.000 Well, Iggy is the iguana.

01:28:11.000 Oh, Iggy.

01:28:12.000 Iggy is the iguana.

01:28:13.000 You didn't go with Lizzy the lizard?

01:28:15.000 Not yet, but there's 20 episodes.

01:28:15.000 No.

01:28:17.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.

01:28:18.000 I don't want to have room to grow.

01:28:19.000 Maybe Iggy needs a love interest later. 1.00

01:28:21.000 How violent does the show get?

01:28:22.000 I imagine the answer is not, but do they throw pies or is it none of that?

01:28:27.000 Well, let's see.

01:28:30.000 There is some violence in the show.

01:28:33.000 In some of the stories that are animated, you've got these wolves that want to take the animals off of Freedom Island to their island called Utopia.

01:28:44.000 Where there is free ice cream for everyone.

01:28:47.000 This is our anti-socialism lesson.

01:28:50.000 And so they're doing all sorts of bad things to destroy Freedom Island.

01:28:54.000 So yeah, I think kids are going to absolutely love it.

01:28:57.000 Parents are going to love it.

01:28:59.000 They're teaching the right kind of lessons.

01:29:01.000 It's hilarious.

01:29:02.000 It's beautifully animated.

01:29:04.000 And Lee Allen Baker from Disney's Good Luck Charlie is going to be doing this together with me.

01:29:08.000 And then we have more guest stars that are coming on board.

01:29:12.000 I'm just picturing you in like a bandolier with like an M16 or whatever.

01:29:16.000 Maybe not this show.

01:29:18.000 Maybe, you know, maybe not.

01:29:20.000 I'm excited for this.

01:29:20.000 This is great.

01:29:21.000 And we're already up to $6,500.

01:29:22.000 Oh, that's awesome, everybody.

01:29:26.000 So that's $13,000 total, because I'm going to double it.

01:29:29.000 So let's see what we hit.

01:29:30.000 And it's only been, what, four minutes?

01:29:32.000 So when we had Tim here and we were talking about, you know, he was starting a new nonprofit.

01:29:38.000 I don't know.

01:29:39.000 I think, I don't know.

01:29:40.000 Someone may have asked her to do the same thing.

01:29:42.000 Someone said like, hey, would you contribute?

01:29:44.000 And I was like, I saw that there was like $2,000 in super chats and there was only like 10 minutes left of the show.

01:29:48.000 I was like, I'll match whatever it is.

01:29:50.000 And it instantly jumped to 25,000.

01:29:51.000 And I was like, I got to write a check for 50 grand right now, but happy Crowdfunding and finding people with good ideas and then crowdfunding money is like the next phase of evolution of our species because like the only way we can overcome an oligopoly is by the people funding their own creations.

01:30:10.000 Voting with your dollars, parallel economy, shout out Public Square, download the app.

01:30:14.000 Yes.

01:30:15.000 It's super. This is exactly it. And especially because you're giving the show for free.

01:30:19.000 I mean, this right here is basically people when you're super chaining right now, or when you're

01:30:23.000 going to Brave Books and helping fund this through crowdfunding, you're basically buying

01:30:28.000 the product. So, you know, where does it go? Is it on?

01:30:31.000 Is it on YouTube?

01:30:32.000 It's going to be on YouTube, it's going to be on Rumble, it's going to be on platforms that everybody can access.

01:30:38.000 And one of the other cool things is that it's not just getting the product of the show made, but there's these really cool rewards, like I was mentioning earlier.

01:30:47.000 You can get one of your kids or your grandkids in one of the episodes.

01:30:50.000 You can get red carpet premiere tickets and we've got some really cool parties and things happening.

01:30:56.000 We get to meet all of us and hang out with Iggy the Iguana in Nashville.

01:31:00.000 You can look at all those rewards based on the support level that you give at watchbrave.com.

01:31:05.000 Are you satisfied with the way your career has gone and went from Growing Pains to now?

01:31:12.000 Oh, I'm beyond satisfied.

01:31:16.000 And it's not that I've won some award.

01:31:18.000 I've not won an Academy Award or anything like that.

01:31:21.000 Here I am on... I mean, most child actors who stay in the business long enough, things usually don't end well.

01:31:33.000 Oh yeah.

01:31:35.000 I'm really grateful that, you know, I'm not in prison, you know, after doing something really awful.

01:31:41.000 And here I am.

01:31:43.000 I'm married.

01:31:44.000 I've got six children.

01:31:45.000 My wife still loves me.

01:31:46.000 I'm a part of projects that I'm passionate about.

01:31:48.000 I feel like I'm pushing back the darkness a little bit.

01:31:51.000 I'm making inroads for the light and I'm on Timcast.

01:31:55.000 And so, I mean, how could I not be satisfied?

01:31:57.000 This is awesome.

01:31:58.000 I feel like If you take a look at the plethora of child actors and where they ended up, you are at like the number one spot of success in living a good life, not falling into the pitfalls and horrible realities that befall many of these people.

01:32:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:18.000 And I'm not just trying to feign humility here.

01:32:21.000 I really didn't have any great strategy to make it through unscathed.

01:32:26.000 I really feel like, and I don't just feel, I know I was an atheist, and at about 17, 18 years old, there was a big turnaround for me, and a really cute girl on the set asked me to go to meet her and her family one weekend, and she gave me the address, and it was a church.

01:32:44.000 I didn't want to go to church.

01:32:45.000 I thought Jesus was part of a different trinity, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and God.

01:32:51.000 But she was really cute, and I sat in the back row, and I heard a message, and it was the message of the gospel.

01:32:57.000 correctly communicated. It wasn't trying to fleece people for money. It wasn't

01:33:03.000 trying to manipulate people and moralize them. It was a much deeper soul-stirring

01:33:08.000 message that got me asking questions and I found myself sitting in my sports car

01:33:11.000 parked on the side of the road saying, God if you're real I want to know. If

01:33:14.000 you're there please show me because if there's a heaven I'd like to go and I

01:33:20.000 want to be the person I'm actually created to be.

01:33:23.000 And I started going to church.

01:33:24.000 Someone gave me a Bible.

01:33:24.000 That sent me in a whole new trajectory in my life that I am sure if that hadn't have happened, we wouldn't be sitting here today.

01:33:35.000 A friend of mine at the time, a minister, said, Kirk, if anybody ever asks you, how did you find God in Hollywood?

01:33:42.000 He said, let me remind you, you didn't find God.

01:33:44.000 He wasn't lost.

01:33:46.000 You were, and He found you.

01:33:47.000 Wow.

01:33:48.000 And that's exactly, that feels like the description of what happened to me.

01:33:51.000 Yeah, it's always there.

01:33:53.000 Like, I had, um, thoughts would come into my head and distract me, and then I decided to confess.

01:33:58.000 I didn't know what I was doing, but I made YouTube videos, 2006.

01:34:00.000 I was like, I gotta just be honest.

01:34:01.000 What would Jesus do right now?

01:34:03.000 Use this tech.

01:34:03.000 And I started telling people all my past and my secrets, and they stopped popping into my head.

01:34:08.000 And then I learned how to think words instead of say them, and I would think words to God.

01:34:11.000 I'll communicate with God with my thoughts, and it responds with images of like, what do I do next?

01:34:17.000 I'll think it, and it'll show me doing something.

01:34:19.000 Or I'll hear a sound, a voice, kind of like a noise that I can decipher as a text, you know, answer.

01:34:27.000 And it answers before you even finish the question, because it knows what you're going to ask.

01:34:30.000 I want to tell you a story.

01:34:32.000 I want to tell you a story.

01:34:33.000 I think I've told this story on the show a couple of times.

01:34:35.000 I knew some guys who skateboarded.

01:34:38.000 I met them in Chicago.

01:34:39.000 They were really cool dudes, and they were Christians.

01:34:42.000 And there were some young people that were smack-talking them.

01:34:47.000 Because one guy was very obviously Christian, but never talked about it.

01:34:50.000 I didn't care.

01:34:51.000 So I went and hung out with them, and they hung out at this, what people would call a Christian commune.

01:34:55.000 It wasn't literally a commune, it was just like a building owned by a church, and they allowed, you know, wayward souls and people looking for opportunity to come and work and support them.

01:35:04.000 So one of these guys, he's like a punk rock dude, but he's very devout.

01:35:08.000 And I asked him, like, we got into the subject of why people were talking smack about them for being Christian when all they did was skate and mind their own business.

01:35:16.000 And I'm like, that's just so weird to me, like, people gotta hate, you know?

01:35:19.000 But I have something like, you know, if you don't mind me asking, like, you never do talk about it, can you tell me how you ended up getting involved in Christianity and becoming religious?

01:35:26.000 Wild story.

01:35:28.000 He was a young drug addict. 0.98

01:35:29.000 Punk rock, sex drugs and rock and roll. 0.99

01:35:32.000 Didn't care about anything. 0.99

01:35:33.000 Partying, drinking, just all the worst stuff.

01:35:37.000 So one day he was like hanging out in the woods at a party, drinking and doing drugs.

01:35:42.000 One day, he wakes up in the morning, and he walks away from his group, sleeping, you know, just in the refuse outside.

01:35:48.000 Goes to take a leak, and as he's taking a leak, he feels a booming voice from within him that immediately said, what are you doing?

01:35:58.000 And he was immediately terrified.

01:36:00.000 He said, I was like scared, shocked.

01:36:02.000 I started like, you know, putting my junk away.

01:36:04.000 I'm like taking a piss, and I'm like, what? 0.93

01:36:05.000 And then it said, why are you doing this to yourself?

01:36:09.000 And he said, I don't know.

01:36:10.000 And I said, you need to stop.

01:36:12.000 And that was the gist of it.

01:36:14.000 And that day, he was just like shocked and immediately sought answers.

01:36:20.000 And he found it with the church and they talked to him.

01:36:23.000 And it was wild to hear a story of, you removed that story.

01:36:25.000 He told me that.

01:36:26.000 He says, I can never convince you that happened to me.

01:36:28.000 And I don't need to, because it did.

01:36:30.000 And it changed my life.

01:36:31.000 And I was like, I believe you.

01:36:33.000 You had an experience.

01:36:35.000 It's the story of a guy who went from being a drug addict, who was derelict, down on everything, and a drain on society, to a productive, healthy, positive member of society, because of this experience he had, for whatever reason he had it.

01:36:48.000 He was wise to listen, because God will be cryptic sometimes like that, it'll say, you need to stop, and you know in your gut what it means, but the ego might be like, stop what?

01:36:59.000 And that's like, you gotta overcome that ego, and like, you know immediately what it's telling you when it tells you.

01:37:05.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats, for which we have a massive amount, already $12,000 in Super Chats, which means, uh, I'll just round up to the number that sounds right.

01:37:14.000 At this point, we'll say $25,000.

01:37:16.000 And, uh, it looks like it's very easy.

01:37:17.000 I can actually just go onto the website, click join the tier, and pay with a credit card.

01:37:21.000 So that should be totally, uh, easy for us to do.

01:37:23.000 Um, we're gonna read your superchats and, uh, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.

01:37:30.000 No members only show tonight, uh, but, you know.

01:37:33.000 Oh, really?

01:37:34.000 Yeah, no members only.

01:37:35.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:37:35.000 Okay, cool.

01:37:36.000 Yeah, so, uh, but become a member at TimCats if you want to support our work.

01:37:39.000 More importantly, right now, any superchat you give, I will match.

01:37:43.000 TimCast will match, and we will use that to help fund Kirk's show, which I think is more than deserving considering you're going to put out for free anyway.

01:37:52.000 So, this is absolutely one of the most important things we can do in winning the culture war.

01:37:56.000 So again, make your super chat.

01:37:58.000 I don't care if you say nothing or anything, but that money, I will match.

01:38:01.000 So you put in 5 bucks, I'll put 5 bucks on top.

01:38:03.000 You put in 100, I'll put 100 on top.

01:38:04.000 You put in 10,000, I will put 10,000 on top.

01:38:07.000 If we hit $50,000 in Super Chats, I will write a check for $100,000.

01:38:11.000 Well, I don't know if I can write... I don't know if you can take a check, but we'll work it out.

01:38:14.000 We'll figure it out.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, we'll put it in an envelope or whatever, and we'll make that happen.

01:38:18.000 So long as we have the capability to do it.

01:38:21.000 I mean, if someone puts, like, a million dollars in there, I don't think it would be impossible.

01:38:23.000 So there's got... I guess the cap would be, like, a hundred grand or something.

01:38:26.000 I don't know.

01:38:27.000 That's why everyone always says, like, up to a certain number, because at a certain point, I literally don't have the money.

01:38:31.000 But we'll read your Super Chats.

01:38:34.000 Mr. Leviticus the Sexy says, for our children, for the- oh.

01:38:38.000 Oh man.

01:38:39.000 What a name, dude.

01:38:40.000 That's such a funny name.

01:38:41.000 Well, I actually have some bad news.

01:38:43.000 The Super Chats have crashed YouTube. 1.00

01:38:46.000 Oh wow, you're right.

01:38:48.000 Yeah, so all the other Super Chats, um, oh man, they're gone.

01:38:53.000 Bummer we got too many too quick.

01:38:55.000 Here's what I want to do.

01:38:56.000 There was one that I think was really really important I'm gonna see if I can try and find Because it was from earlier in the show See this how do you find this behind-the-scenes stuff crashing super chats?

01:39:07.000 I like burn is that what it's under probably let's see Supers yeah Super chats oh geez no, I think they're gone Oh, bummer.

01:39:20.000 Someone wanted a shoutout because they said that his wife, you were her, like, high school, you know, teenybopper crush or whatever. 1.00

01:39:28.000 Okay.

01:39:28.000 I gotta find it.

01:39:29.000 I gotta find it.

01:39:30.000 I'm like, that one's too good to pass up, but we got so many superchats, it's gone.

01:39:33.000 Let me see if I can find it.

01:39:34.000 I've never seen that happen before.

01:39:36.000 So do your kids, you said that your kids had never seen Growing Pains, right?

01:39:42.000 Pretty close to never.

01:39:43.000 And it wasn't intentional, you just had them watching other things, they were doing other stuff.

01:39:48.000 Maybe some celebrities have tapes of themselves running in their house for their children.

01:39:52.000 It'd be weird though.

01:39:54.000 Be very weird.

01:39:55.000 I never had growing pains playing in the house.

01:39:58.000 Our kids were growing up on I Love Lucy episodes and, you know, Little House on the Prairie, stuff like that.

01:40:05.000 And I'm so glad.

01:40:06.000 We actually didn't have a TV on much at all in our house as the kids were little.

01:40:10.000 We tried to just keep them outside as much as possible.

01:40:13.000 But they think it's pretty funny now when they watch episodes of me and their mom as boyfriend and girlfriend on the show.

01:40:19.000 And they're like, ah, we know how this ends.

01:40:21.000 Oh yeah, your wife was on the show? 0.96

01:40:22.000 Yeah, she was my girlfriend on the show.

01:40:24.000 Dude, that's awesome.

01:40:25.000 Isn't that awesome?

01:40:26.000 CD Hannon says, can I please get a shout out to my wife Bobby from Kirk?

01:40:30.000 He was one of her teenage crushes and it would probably make her day.

01:40:34.000 Bobby?

01:40:36.000 That's her name, right?

01:40:37.000 Or is that his name?

01:40:38.000 Bobby.

01:40:38.000 No, Bobby.

01:40:39.000 Bobby!

01:40:40.000 I got the letter that you wrote me all those years ago when you joined the fan club.

01:40:47.000 I'm so sorry I didn't write back to you, but I'm trying to make it up to you now.

01:40:54.000 Nice to meet you.

01:40:55.000 Everyone ended up happily.

01:40:56.000 She's married, you're married, you know, as it was intended to be.

01:41:00.000 Man, that Growing Pain show was awesome, dude.

01:41:01.000 It was just so good.

01:41:03.000 Here's one for you.

01:41:03.000 The intro music, the... Show me that smile again.

01:41:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:08.000 Tidlet, Tidlet, DJ Thomas.

01:41:10.000 Super chat for you.

01:41:11.000 Hey Kirk, are you a good person?

01:41:13.000 I know where this is going.

01:41:15.000 And the answer is no, I am not.

01:41:18.000 Are you humble?

01:41:19.000 Well, that's kind of a trick question, right?

01:41:23.000 The humblest!

01:41:26.000 Do you believe in good and evil?

01:41:28.000 Do you look at life in black and whites like that?

01:41:30.000 Yes, I do believe in good and evil.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, I do.

01:41:35.000 Yeah.

01:41:36.000 Do you think of them as like binary opposites?

01:41:38.000 Counter-impositions?

01:41:40.000 I think so.

01:41:41.000 I think so.

01:41:42.000 I think of evil as the absence of good.

01:41:46.000 And I think good is much more powerful than evil.

01:41:49.000 That's what gives me hope.

01:41:50.000 That's what gives me hope and confidence when I wake up every morning.

01:41:52.000 I started to think of good, evil, and neutral.

01:41:55.000 Yeah.

01:41:55.000 I don't know if there's such a thing as neutral, but I think there is.

01:41:58.000 I can't tell.

01:41:59.000 So Franco Phillips says, Kirk, I'm the perfect age for Growing Pains, 1974.

01:42:03.000 Great show.

01:42:04.000 Any comments on the late Boner Stabone?

01:42:07.000 I thought that was hilarious as a kid, and I'm surprised they gave him that name.

01:42:11.000 Mad respect for you.

01:42:12.000 Yeah.

01:42:13.000 Crazy name, right?

01:42:15.000 His name was Boner.

01:42:16.000 He was my buddy on the show.

01:42:19.000 Is that a real name?

01:42:21.000 That's a real name.

01:42:22.000 Well then, to sort of add insult to injury...

01:42:28.000 You know, it's one of these deals where there's a standards guy from the network that approves all the scripts.

01:42:35.000 And when this went through, I know that the standards guy asked the writers, like, what's with the name?

01:42:40.000 And they were like, what do you mean?

01:42:43.000 Like, no, like, what are you talking about?

01:42:45.000 What are you thinking about?

01:42:46.000 And so they let it go through.

01:42:48.000 And then later on in the season, they actually did an episode that gave the origin of his name.

01:42:53.000 And so they flash back to when we were little kids and I was, my character's name was Mike.

01:42:58.000 So little Mikey meets his little next door neighbor that just moved in and his name was Richard.

01:43:03.000 His name was Richard Stabone.

01:43:05.000 No!

01:43:07.000 And then they say, and that's how the whole, and they played the whole thing out.

01:43:10.000 Yeah, well, my friends call me Dicky, you know, and then all of a sudden it's Stabone and then he became known as Boner.

01:43:16.000 Stabone.

01:43:17.000 Stabone was his last name.

01:43:18.000 So they called him Boner.

01:43:19.000 Yeah.

01:43:20.000 So sadly, He committed suicide and he's not here anymore.

01:43:28.000 That's a tragic ending to that story.

01:43:33.000 He came from a family of actors.

01:43:35.000 His dad was, I believe, Chekov on Star Trek?

01:43:41.000 Wow!

01:43:43.000 Was it... I'm getting the names mixed up.

01:43:44.000 Sulu or Chekhov.

01:43:45.000 Sulu was the woman, right? 0.96

01:43:46.000 No, no, that's... That was Uhura. 1.00

01:43:50.000 Uhura.

01:43:51.000 Uhura.

01:43:51.000 That's right.

01:43:52.000 I believe it was Chekhov.

01:43:54.000 Yeah, Chekhov was the... What did he count?

01:43:56.000 Was he comms?

01:43:58.000 I don't know.

01:43:58.000 I never... Pavel Chekhov?

01:44:00.000 Yeah, Pavel Chekhov.

01:44:01.000 Yeah, who's that actor?

01:44:01.000 He was a comedian.

01:44:02.000 Anyway, I believe it was his dad.

01:44:03.000 Walter Koenig.

01:44:04.000 Yes, Walter Koenig.

01:44:05.000 And this was... Boner was Andrew Koenig.

01:44:07.000 And so, um... Anyway, so that's, that's, uh... Is it... Might be... Might be pronounced Koenig.

01:44:11.000 Man, that... Living... A childhood actor must be such a freaking tough life.

01:44:15.000 Yeah.

01:44:16.000 Can you imagine just the amount of pressure, the amount of opportunity to get involved in things that are just not good for you?

01:44:22.000 And then you've got adults who are profiting off of your success as a child who are going to wind up being yes-men and not really protecting you because you're limiting their ability to flourish.

01:44:33.000 Did you have a good mentor?

01:44:36.000 I had a good mom.

01:44:38.000 Honestly, I had a good mom.

01:44:39.000 My dad's a PE, a physical education teacher at a junior high school.

01:44:43.000 And my mom was with me and my sisters.

01:44:47.000 And my sister, Candace Cameron, is also on a TV show called Full House.

01:44:52.000 And she's been doing all these other things too, right?

01:44:54.000 So she's actually managing both of us when we're kids on these hit TV shows.

01:45:01.000 And so I ultimately Have my parents to thank for keeping me on the straight and narrow during those early years.

01:45:09.000 Would your mom be on set with you guys?

01:45:10.000 Yeah, she'd be on set until we got a little bit older.

01:45:13.000 My sister's younger than me, so she kind of shifted over to her show.

01:45:16.000 But as I got older, not so much anymore.

01:45:19.000 That was Ron Howard, too.

01:45:20.000 His dad would be on set with him on...

01:45:23.000 Andy Griffith's show?

01:45:25.000 His dad, every day, would be on set.

01:45:27.000 And that's why Ron turned out so great, I think.

01:45:29.000 Yeah.

01:45:30.000 If you have kids in the industry, you really have to be.

01:45:32.000 Because, I mean, they'll just devour those kids. 1.00

01:45:35.000 We're at $16,000 so far.

01:45:37.000 So total so far is 32k.

01:45:39.000 They'll be going in.

01:45:40.000 Raise the roof.

01:45:41.000 Get your super chats in for the next few minutes.

01:45:43.000 Awesome, you guys are awesome.

01:45:44.000 Did you feel that effect as a kid?

01:45:46.000 Like did you realize that you were positively influenced by having your parents there?

01:45:50.000 Because I could imagine being like a young successful actor, you're like, mom, please leave the set.

01:45:54.000 Let me do like, you know, whatever the other cast people get to do.

01:45:57.000 Yeah, I think I felt a little of that, but I was also grateful.

01:46:01.000 And I've got a rock star for a mom.

01:46:05.000 She's just amazing.

01:46:06.000 And everybody loved her.

01:46:08.000 Every Friday.

01:46:10.000 My mom was a great cook and so she bakes these cookies that are these phenomenally delicious chocolate chip cookies and she would bake like 12 dozen of them and bring them in this giant basket and there would be a line waiting at the craft service table for her cookies to come in and people would hoard them in little plates and like sneak them back off to their offices.

01:46:27.000 So my mom was very popular on the set and I loved having her there too.

01:46:32.000 As I got older, it wasn't necessary so much.

01:46:36.000 And I got involved with a good group of friends.

01:46:39.000 And most of my friends were not in Hollywood.

01:46:41.000 So my touchstones, my North Stars, those moral anchors for me in terms of my community were outside of Hollywood.

01:46:52.000 And my job was a job.

01:46:53.000 But it wasn't my identity.

01:46:55.000 How did you book it?

01:46:57.000 But how did you book Growing Pains?

01:46:59.000 Did you audition in LA?

01:47:00.000 Did you fly out?

01:47:03.000 I live in Los Angeles.

01:47:04.000 I grew up in Los Angeles and never wanted to be an actor.

01:47:06.000 I wanted to be a doctor when I was a little kid, but my mom had a friend who said, you should try this acting thing. 0.90

01:47:12.000 We did and I started working right away and I auditioned for the role of Growing Pains.

01:47:16.000 Against a bunch of other little kids.

01:47:18.000 River Phoenix, Corey Haim, Corey Feldman, all those kids.

01:47:22.000 We were all contemporaries at the time.

01:47:24.000 And I got the part.

01:47:26.000 And Alan Thicke was the star of the show.

01:47:28.000 He's a Canadian talk show host.

01:47:30.000 And we started the show and man, it just took off.

01:47:33.000 And so seven seasons later.

01:47:35.000 Wow.

01:47:35.000 Huge.

01:47:36.000 You went off book and you just nailed it.

01:47:38.000 I just nailed it.

01:47:39.000 I married my on-screen girlfriend and it was like... Did you invite the casting director, whoever casted her, to your wedding?

01:47:46.000 I should have.

01:47:47.000 I really like your choice for this part.

01:47:49.000 It was the appropriate casting.

01:47:51.000 Let me read this.

01:47:52.000 This is from Misery.

01:47:54.000 It says, Ian, Turn the Other Cheek is about not responding back an emotional, impeded, wrathful mentality.

01:48:03.000 Turn to a mental state.

01:48:05.000 Respond in calm, properly thought-out response.

01:48:09.000 There is mention of selling your cloak to buy a sword.

01:48:12.000 Yeah, uh, Jesus did say, if you do not have a sword, you should sell your cloak and buy one.

01:48:17.000 But, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, that was about the Romans were going to come and take him, and he was telling his followers to defend themselves.

01:48:23.000 And him.

01:48:24.000 I was talking to Seamus about it, that's what he told me, but, you know, I am not a scholar on this.

01:48:29.000 But it is fascinating when I love seeing the the left make the gun control argument, and it's like Jesus was not like just laid down and let them destroy everything.

01:48:40.000 Yeah, I wouldn't call him a pacifist.

01:48:44.000 But he understood the value of peace.

01:48:46.000 Did any of your kids want to become actors?

01:48:51.000 No, my youngest son May still try his hand at it, but generally speaking, I don't have any aspiring actors in the family.

01:48:59.000 And do you think that's by design?

01:49:00.000 Or are you sort of guiding them right out of Hollywood?

01:49:04.000 We didn't discourage it.

01:49:06.000 I mean, my kids are so talented.

01:49:07.000 My son, he's a video producer.

01:49:09.000 Doesn't want to get in front of the camera, but loves being behind the camera.

01:49:12.000 He loves playing the guitar.

01:49:14.000 Daughter who sings, a poet, an artist.

01:49:19.000 So I've got creative kids.

01:49:21.000 Who love to perform, but in front of the camera, not so much.

01:49:25.000 Yeah.

01:49:25.000 Do you guys do a lot of home movies?

01:49:27.000 Making movies?

01:49:29.000 We do do home movies.

01:49:31.000 We're kind of famous for our family Christmas movies that we make.

01:49:34.000 Oh, really?

01:49:35.000 Yeah, we send those out to our friends.

01:49:36.000 We'll have to send that to you this year.

01:49:38.000 Alright, Unwoke said, The night Jesus was arrested, he told his followers to arm themselves to defend themselves against the tyrannical authorities.

01:49:44.000 He stopped them from defending him because his time had come, but theirs had not.

01:49:48.000 Right, that's what it was.

01:49:49.000 I was wrong.

01:49:50.000 Yeah, he knew his time had come, but his followers had not.

01:49:55.000 Man, I think about what he must have been going through.

01:49:58.000 Do you guys ever see Jesus Christ Superstar?

01:50:00.000 You ever hear that musical?

01:50:01.000 It's kind of told about from Judas's perspective and Judas watching Jesus devolve and start to believe his own hype.

01:50:08.000 And he's like, Jesus, when we started, it was about the message.

01:50:10.000 It's becoming about you.

01:50:11.000 This is a problem.

01:50:12.000 And Jesus is like, Yeah, like he's just like losing it and then he gets so exhausted.

01:50:17.000 He's like, just take me.

01:50:18.000 I can't do this anymore.

01:50:19.000 Just let it go.

01:50:21.000 I did not see it, but I did see The Passion recently.

01:50:23.000 I had not seen it until like three or maybe like six months ago and I recommend it.

01:50:29.000 You know, like, the media gave it this, uh, they really ragged on it for being, like, very brutal and violent.

01:50:34.000 But the history of it, I think, is substantially more important.

01:50:38.000 Because even if you're not a Christian, its historical reference is really, really interesting.

01:50:44.000 And it's, like, actual, real.

01:50:44.000 It's fascinating.

01:50:46.000 It's real history.

01:50:47.000 There are people who want to argue that, you know, maybe Jesus was not the son of God, and like, that's... Believe what you want to believe, okay?

01:50:53.000 If you believe, if you don't, watch the movie.

01:50:55.000 Because there were things that I didn't actually understand about the Roman Empire, the religious authorities, and, you know, I just thought it was, yeah, it was fascinating to, like, see the historical context of what was going on.

01:51:11.000 How the Romans handled and all that stuff was very interesting.

01:51:13.000 Yeah.

01:51:15.000 Well, that's, I mean, Super Chats at this point just turn into, can you please match the amount, and then sure enough, bang!

01:51:20.000 Lots of Super Chats.

01:51:22.000 We now have 18,000 in Super Chats.

01:51:24.000 Nice.

01:51:25.000 Yeah, people like the passion.

01:51:27.000 Do you find that's how most people are finding out of the show?

01:51:30.000 Sort of grassroots, word of mouth?

01:51:31.000 Or are you guys working with any specific people to kind of push it?

01:51:36.000 Well, we're here.

01:51:40.000 We want to help do everything that we can to get the word out to as many people who care about the same kind of things that we care about as we can.

01:51:46.000 But yeah, it's mostly grassroots.

01:51:49.000 It's people spreading the word.

01:51:50.000 I've been Going to New York tomorrow and talk with some friends there and just been touring around and telling as many people as we can.

01:51:58.000 And people are so excited about it.

01:51:59.000 They want to be a part of something that makes a difference.

01:52:01.000 And not just getting depressed, not just feeling like, you know, we're inching toward the cliff of destruction and despair, but that there really is hope.

01:52:10.000 Listen, when I look through history, it seems that the times when people open their eyes, they wake up and they speak up are Always at times of moral decline, spiritual apathy, political corruption and economic collapse, people say, holy cow, what have we done?

01:52:29.000 There's something so precious on the line here.

01:52:31.000 We have so much at stake.

01:52:32.000 Now is the time.

01:52:33.000 And we've had great awakenings in this country, spiritual awakenings that turn into cultural revivals.

01:52:40.000 And I'm thinking that we're due for another one right now.

01:52:43.000 Yeah, it reminds me of when people say, you know, some people only remember to pray when they're in crisis, but actually should be praying all the time.

01:52:51.000 People turn and sort of re-evaluate things when they think things are going wrong, but actually building culture, maintaining culture comes in times of, you know, peace, so to speak, when things are okay or when you think that you're, you know, on the right path, you need to maintain the things that you have.

01:53:06.000 What are those four little stanzas that we've heard that, you know, good men produce good times?

01:53:12.000 Yeah, it's a good time.

01:53:14.000 Strong men make good times.

01:53:16.000 Good times make weak men.

01:53:17.000 Weak men make hard times.

01:53:19.000 Hard times make strong men.

01:53:20.000 That's right.

01:53:21.000 I think these hard times are making strong men and women.

01:53:24.000 I feel that.

01:53:25.000 Yeah, I think what's crazier is how many people like me were like Fairly liberal, fairly laissez-faire, and then watching how insane the Democratic Party and the left has become, has sort of reaffirmed morality in a lot of urban liberal types, creating the disaffected liberal post-liberal faction, which now finds themselves aligned with conservatives and Christians on moral issues. 0.86

01:53:52.000 Like, you know, I grew up Catholic.

01:53:55.000 A variety of things resulted in my family basically leaving, but my family always remained Christian.

01:54:01.000 But then I went through this like, I don't know, from probably like 14 until 18, staunch atheist hardcore.

01:54:08.000 And I tell the story where I met a guy and, you know, young punk rock, liberal propaganda, radio, music, everything they were saying, I was just eating it all up.

01:54:19.000 And then I met this dude who skated and he had a picture of Jesus on his wall.

01:54:22.000 And he was a good skater.

01:54:24.000 Everybody knew him.

01:54:24.000 And I was like, oh, this is cool.

01:54:25.000 I'm hanging out with the cool kids now.

01:54:26.000 And I come in to hang out at his place with some people.

01:54:29.000 And he's got Jesus on his wall.

01:54:30.000 And I'm like, what is this?

01:54:32.000 Are you a Christian or something?

01:54:33.000 He's like, no.

01:54:34.000 And then I was like, why do you have a picture of Jesus on your wall?

01:54:36.000 And he was like, I just saw a story about a guy who traveled around helping people.

01:54:39.000 It was pretty cool.

01:54:40.000 And then that was like a single drop of water in the cup of faith where I was like, you're right.

01:54:46.000 Why did I have this negative perspective?

01:54:48.000 Like, I was being fed this narrative of Christians being bad or being evil, and then I'm like, if this dude's only takeaway is, forget everything else, he helped a bunch of people, how cool is that?

01:54:57.000 I'm like, that's a really good point.

01:55:00.000 And then, I was like, okay.

01:55:01.000 And that kind of shifted my perspective of a formative moment.

01:55:04.000 Another formative moment was when I was hanging out at a... Oh, the atheists really hate me for this one.

01:55:09.000 No disrespect to the atheists, I'm not ragging on you, but, you know, I get flack for this.

01:55:14.000 I was hanging out.

01:55:14.000 I worked at O'Hare Airport.

01:55:15.000 This is around the same age.

01:55:16.000 And, uh, a guy just, like, I think I was reading a book on physics.

01:55:20.000 And this, like, this Hispanic co-worker who was, like, 10 years older than me is like, hey, Poole.

01:55:24.000 He's like, you, uh, you believe in God?

01:55:25.000 And I was like, no.

01:55:26.000 And he's like, you don't believe in God?

01:55:27.000 And I was like, no.

01:55:28.000 And he was like, you're not, you're not Christian.

01:55:30.000 And I was like, nah, nah, whatever. 0.57

01:55:30.000 You're nothing. 0.57

01:55:31.000 And he's like, oh, okay.

01:55:33.000 So, uh, you know, what are you reading?

01:55:34.000 And I was like, it's like a book on quantum physics or something.

01:55:36.000 He's like, oh, cool.

01:55:37.000 He's like, so, so what are you breathing right now?

01:55:39.000 And then I was like, what?

01:55:39.000 He's like, what are you breathing?

01:55:40.000 I was like, air.

01:55:40.000 He's like, yeah, what is it?

01:55:42.000 And then me thinking I'm all smart, I'm like, oxygen, carbon dioxide, but mostly nitrogen.

01:55:46.000 Trace elements is water, vapor, methane.

01:55:48.000 Next question.

01:55:49.000 And he's like, oh, okay.

01:55:51.000 How do you know that?

01:55:53.000 And I was like, what do you mean?

01:55:54.000 How do I know that?

01:55:55.000 I was like, I read it in school.

01:55:56.000 And he's like, you read it in school that you're breathing air.

01:55:59.000 And I was like, well, yeah, like we breathe the air and it's mostly nitrogen.

01:56:02.000 Our body takes the oxygen out of it.

01:56:05.000 He's like, oh, OK, but you know that because you learned it in school.

01:56:08.000 I was like, right.

01:56:09.000 And he's like, yeah, you read in the book.

01:56:10.000 I'm like, yeah.

01:56:11.000 He's like, oh, so you did the experiments where you took the electron microscope and you looked at the oxygen molecules bonding to the carbon dioxide.

01:56:17.000 And I was like, no, what?

01:56:18.000 I was like, no.

01:56:20.000 And he's like, oh, you just read in the book.

01:56:21.000 And I was like, and you believe that?

01:56:23.000 And I was like, but yeah, I mean, like, it's science, and he's like, oh, okay, so like, but why just trust that you read something in a book and it's true?

01:56:31.000 And then I was just like, because, I don't know, we have science and technology?

01:56:35.000 And he was like, I think it's because somebody who you thought was right told you it, and you believed what they were saying because it made sense to you.

01:56:42.000 And I was like, yeah, I guess, and he's like, okay, well, I had a guy in a white coat telling me that Jesus was the Son of God, and he brought me a book, and I read that book, and that's what I believe.

01:56:48.000 And I laughed, and I was like, touche, good sir, I get it, I get it.

01:56:52.000 My argument was like, yeah, but like, you know, I have a cell phone, I know how radio works, I've built technology, so I believe we're breathing oxygen, but point made!

01:57:00.000 We choose our faith, we choose who to trust and what to believe in, and that was the point he was making when he struck up this conversation, and I respected that.

01:57:06.000 And it gave me, it kind of shook me out of a closed-minded state, I suppose.

01:57:11.000 I started reading a lot more and then I think within three months I was no longer atheist.

01:57:18.000 And it was actually because I read a book on quantum physics that talked about the state of matter as it relates to life and negative entropy.

01:57:28.000 And I won't get into the great details about it that we've talked about on the show.

01:57:31.000 And it talked about the mathematical pathways of the universe, how there's entropy in the universe, what we believe we know is the universe decaying to eventually the state of the, which would be the heat death of the universe, all energy evenly spaced out.

01:57:46.000 But in the meantime, there is the negative entropy, that is, matter being attracted to other matter, fusion creating, you know, denser elements, and then life.

01:57:56.000 Life collecting free energy.

01:57:58.000 And basically the logical conclusion is there is something greater than us.

01:58:03.000 We just can't comprehend it with the limited minds we have.

01:58:06.000 You can try though.

01:58:08.000 You can try though.

01:58:08.000 DMT is fascinating.

01:58:10.000 I know you guys have smoked DMT before, but like you see fractal patterns and geometric shapes and stuff.

01:58:14.000 And lately I've been into the Kabbalah, this ancient Jewish teachings about shapes and patterns kind of as a communication method.

01:58:21.000 And I think if you can understand like cymatics where vibration will cause matter to change shape, And I think that God is communicating with us through geometric patterns in that state.

01:58:31.000 And if you can calculate what those things actually are saying, you might be able to understand it better.

01:58:36.000 Here's another way to put it.

01:58:40.000 I was watching a video explaining aliens and why, even if aliens existed, it'd be incomprehensible.

01:58:46.000 An ant.

01:58:48.000 On the same planet as humans has no idea what a highway is and never will and we can never convey that information.

01:58:55.000 The ant cannot perceive the highway's existence.

01:58:59.000 Worse still is a dog.

01:59:01.000 A dog can see the highway is there but will not comprehend the purpose that we do of what a highway is despite the fact we can actually communicate with dogs and say words they understand.

01:59:12.000 Humans and dogs being mammals imagine what an alien would be and then I saw that video and I thought to myself The same concept would apply to a greater power a god and when you combine the It's it's way too complicated for me to I have to do like a two-hour explanation of my spiritual and religious views But it's a combination of the quantum physics negative entropy the the coalescing of free energy into life and life creating abstract concepts I'll try and simplify this best I can The most basic form of life, self-replicating proteins take free energy from their environment.

01:59:49.000 They combine and turn into something a bit more complicated.

01:59:51.000 Eventually, you get single cells.

01:59:52.000 Single cells become multicellular.

01:59:54.000 Multicellular organisms become much, much larger until you get, say, something like a squirrel.

01:59:59.000 Squirrels create complex systems in the ecosystem, planting acorns.

02:00:03.000 An acorn falls from a tree, a squirrel grabs it, plants it, plants another tree.

02:00:07.000 You have, with humans, with beavers actually, and other animals, you get environmental manipulation,

02:00:12.000 which is the expansion of complex systems, free energy organized into complex systems.

02:00:16.000 And then with humans, you get the first degree of abstract complex systems that exist in a nebulous form,

02:00:24.000 and no longer in physical form.

02:00:25.000 Minecraft, for instance.

02:00:26.000 Well, so what I mean is, if a squirrel, if life collects energy from around it, food, it eats it,

02:00:34.000 and that food turns into another squirrel, that is organizing energy.

02:00:37.000 The next level is environmental manipulation.

02:00:39.000 A beaver then collects sticks and creates a dam, creating a new complex system in the environment.

02:00:45.000 Humans then take it to the next degree.

02:00:48.000 Which is, we create language, concepts, ideas.

02:00:51.000 We've named this thing CAN.

02:00:53.000 The language itself is a complex system that only exists when the collective minds of those who speak the language can convey the ideas.

02:01:00.000 The logic simply dictates there is another form of complex system creation beyond what we are.

02:01:08.000 Because the likelihood, mathematically, that we are the end-all be-all of what the universe has within itself The likelihood that we're at the end of it is almost zero, based on what we think we know about the universe.

02:01:21.000 And so, the simplest interpretation would be, there is a greater power beyond us, and that is the mathematically obvious outcome when you do the calculations.

02:01:31.000 And then, that combined with a whole bunch of other experiences I've had in life, I'm just like, there's a God.

02:01:37.000 And I think it's really, really funny that I have not been an atheist since I was 18, and there are people who tweet and comment and insult me for being an atheist, and I'm like, I don't get it!

02:01:48.000 We should do a show, a full show on this sometime.

02:01:50.000 We were supposed to have you and Seamus! 0.97

02:01:52.000 I've been researching entropy, and I think that entropy is like if you take two sticks and put them together, they form a joint.

02:01:59.000 The joint is the entropy.

02:02:00.000 It's not a thing, it's a result of... it's a result.

02:02:04.000 We do have to wrap up, so I will say, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, thank you for listening to my last few minute rant on spirituality.

02:02:11.000 We should do a Culture War episode discussing all the religious philosophies and ideas, it would be fantastic.

02:02:16.000 You can follow the show at TimCastIRL, you can follow me personally at TimCast, support our work at TimCast.com by becoming a member, and squeeze in your last few Super Chats in the last couple of minutes, because we're at $20,000, so I got $40K going your way to your project.

02:02:29.000 We're excited.

02:02:30.000 We're excited to help.

02:02:31.000 I'm excited everybody was able to give.

02:02:33.000 I can certainly help as well.

02:02:34.000 And if everybody wants to support our work, we're at TimCast.com.

02:02:37.000 Do you want to shout anything out, Kirk?

02:02:39.000 Oh man, thank you guys for having me on the program.

02:02:42.000 I feel like I went to school.

02:02:42.000 This is awesome.

02:02:44.000 I've learned so much listening to all four of you here today.

02:02:47.000 This has been really awesome.

02:02:48.000 Thank you.

02:02:49.000 Absolutely.

02:02:50.000 Do you have a Twitter account or X account?

02:02:52.000 I've got an X account, Kirk Cameron Official, and a Facebook and Instagram account.

02:02:59.000 You pointing everybody over here to watchbrave.com really means the world to me because I really want people to think about stuff that we can do together that's going to make a difference.

02:03:11.000 I am dead serious with the coffee shop that we're opening.

02:03:14.000 We want to have a thousand of them.

02:03:16.000 I want to have it be in every shopping center we can get into.

02:03:20.000 Saturday mornings, families come, and their kids are hanging out, and they're hanging out.

02:03:24.000 Great idea.

02:03:24.000 And we can play your show, and we can play Benkey shows, and we can help build a wholesome, family-friendly culture to craft a stable, intelligent, productive, And moral future generation.

02:03:36.000 So we have the same mission, so I'm more than happy to help.

02:03:39.000 I do kind of feel bad that, you know, people could just be donating directly to WatchBrave, but I want to match it, so we'll do that.

02:03:46.000 It's watchbrave.com, though, right?

02:03:47.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:03:48.000 So if people want to additionally donate or contribute, it's actually becoming a part of the process.

02:03:54.000 It's a crowdfund, so you're getting something for what you give, but really excited.

02:03:57.000 So thanks for hanging out, Thornton and Claire.

02:03:59.000 Yeah, it's been awesome having you here.

02:04:01.000 I'm so glad you could join us.

02:04:02.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

02:04:03.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com, that's Scanner News.

02:04:06.000 I'm really grateful to be a part of that team, and I'm thankful for all of you who follow and support our work.

02:04:10.000 You can find us at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.

02:04:14.000 If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Twitter at hcbrimlow, and I'm on Instagram at hannahclaire.b.

02:04:19.000 Ian, so fun to see you.

02:04:21.000 You too, Hannah-Claire.

02:04:22.000 Thanks.

02:04:22.000 And you guys, you got a couple minutes left to get your super chats in, get them doubled up.

02:04:27.000 It's happening now.

02:04:28.000 Hit the button.

02:04:29.000 Kirk, great to meet you, man.

02:04:30.000 Good to see you, dude.

02:04:31.000 Great to see you, too.

02:04:31.000 Thanks.

02:04:32.000 Good show, Tim.

02:04:33.000 Serge, what's happening, brother?

02:04:33.000 That was fun, man.

02:04:35.000 Talk me out.

02:04:35.000 Yeah, thanks to everyone that watches the show.

02:04:37.000 We appreciate it.

02:04:38.000 Thank you for giving money towards Kirk's project.

02:04:40.000 Thanks for helping us out, Kirk, and being here.

02:04:43.000 Pleasure, as always.

02:04:44.000 Yeah.

02:04:45.000 How would you rate it on a scale of 1 to 10?

02:04:48.000 I know that Serge will cry if you don't like it.

02:04:50.000 This is the first time I've ever had biltong.

02:04:51.000 Oh, nice.

02:04:51.000 So now everything's going to be compared to this as my standard.

02:04:54.000 Oh, that sucks. 0.74

02:04:55.000 Because you're going to be like, what? 0.99

02:04:57.000 How is this biltong? 0.91

02:04:58.000 You have that, you've had the best.

02:04:59.000 If you find a better one, let me know.

02:05:01.000 That's right.

02:05:01.000 Waiting.

02:05:02.000 It's downhill from here.

02:05:02.000 This stuff's so good.

02:05:03.000 But you know what?

02:05:04.000 This stuff is like craft.

02:05:06.000 from Serge's friend, and so it's really hard to beat, you know, a small batch craft builder.

02:05:12.000 We get to say, we know a guy, and that's how we got this.

02:05:15.000 Alright everybody, it looks like we end the night with $21,000 in Super Chats, so I've got $42,000 going towards Brave Books and Kirk's project.

02:05:24.000 This is fantastic, and I think you more than deserve it.

02:05:27.000 When you said the show was going to be free, I was like, oh, we've got to make this happen.

02:05:30.000 Because, you know, look, I'm a capitalist.

02:05:33.000 People should pay for products because that's how the system works.

02:05:36.000 You make something good, people pay you for it.

02:05:37.000 It's not because they're stealing from you or whatever.

02:05:39.000 It's because they're like, you've created something of such great value, like, I would like to support your work.

02:05:43.000 This is what we're doing right here.

02:05:45.000 So we're going to make it happen.

02:05:46.000 Thank you all so much for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 22, 2024

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