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00:08:20.000And they're saying, Donald Trump signed this bill.
00:08:23.000According to courthouse news service, Congress on Tuesday nearly unanimously passed legislation aimed at shining a spotlight on the federal government's investigation into Epstein.
00:08:33.000But the push to publish the so-called Epstein files is headed to President Donald Trump's desk without changes demanded by skeptical House Republican leadership.
00:08:40.000Both Democrats and Republicans have long urged Congress to pass legislation directing the Trump administration to publish a trove of documents on Epstein.
00:08:50.000I don't know what the point of this is.
00:08:52.000Anybody who's been following this for a long time, a great example being Mike Cernovich, whose work actually got the Epstein files released, or I'm sorry, I should say got the Epstein story to this point where they would release the Epstein files, has said they've long destroyed any of the more important or pressing documents.
00:09:09.000So this seems like it's performative, largely a waste of time.
00:09:16.000Because while Donald Trump has come around and been like, okay, fine, release the files, which I think we're going to get nothing, we now can trust that our liberal friends are going to claim it's the bad move.
00:09:25.000So here's Brian Krasenstein on queue to say, my question about the release of the Epstein files, what stops Trump from classifying any material he doesn't want released and then Pam Bonnie not releasing it?
00:09:35.000What stops Pam Bonnie from claiming anything with Trump's name on it would be national security risk?
00:09:40.000Will other member of Congress, other members of Congress or both from both parties get to see unredacted versions of whatever she redacts or classifies?
00:09:47.000You see, the funny thing is this guy has been screaming about Trump releasing the files.
00:09:50.000As soon as they say, okay, fine, we'll release the files.
00:09:59.000Everybody should, but I believe it was probably destroyed.
00:10:02.000And I think this is principally a distraction.
00:10:04.000And the reason Trump probably came around and said, okay, fine, release it is because it's going to be a bunch of nothing, big nothing burgers.
00:10:12.000I think there's probably nothing in it, but I think it's good because at least the American people get to see whatever they release, right?
00:10:19.000And then I think the question after this is accountability, right?
00:10:23.000Is there anything that's actually going to be forced from an accountability mechanism?
00:10:28.000And I think you saw the beginnings of that today with, you know, I think it was Representative Green in the House who issued the censor resolution.
00:10:38.000And I think, you know, if members of Congress are communicating with Jeffrey Epstein, there should be accountability for that.
00:10:44.000And I think the American people would want to see that.
00:10:46.000I suspect that those who are crazed over the Jeffrey Epstein scandals will not be satisfied by anything that is found in these released files.
00:10:57.000I suspect Candace Owens still won't be satisfied with this unless people get the maximalist conspiracy theory around Jeffrey Epstein.
00:11:04.000If Israel, Massad, and the CIA are not involved in a honeypot of 50 senators and 100 congressmen, then people will not be satisfied here.
00:11:11.000So I suspect that will continue to be the case here.
00:11:14.000Let me try my conspiracy for a minute, if you just entertain this.
00:11:19.000Why are they releasing the files now like this?
00:11:21.000Don't you guys think it's weird that every Republican and Democrat, except for one, but almost all of them agreed to release this?
00:12:05.000Actually, I'll be completely real because it is a little conspiratorial.
00:12:09.000I actually don't completely disagree with that.
00:12:11.000The fact that Democrats and Republicans are all like, yeah, we're all on board with this, says politicking nonsense.
00:12:17.000They're not going to give us real information.
00:12:19.000The government is not going to release proof or details.
00:12:24.000It seems like if I had to make a bet, the DOJ, Democrats, Republicans, or otherwise, have, going back years, long destroyed any of the more significant documents.
00:12:36.000And now they're going to release stuff that makes Epstein look bad, but won't give you the names of any of his accomplices or associates or other Intel assets.
00:12:44.000I think the emails are like one of the most bizarre parts because it's like, first of all, you have congressmen just emailing him about recipes and stuff.
00:13:08.000I'm like, this guy was so shameless with everything.
00:13:11.000That's what I was reading through the emails.
00:13:12.000That's what was the most shocking thing to me.
00:13:15.000The interesting thing I find is not the actual release of the files.
00:13:19.000Because I do think I agree with you a lot that the people that believe that nefarious things are going on about the release are going to believe that this is not a complete list.
00:13:31.000They're going to say, well, there's only some parts that have been released.
00:13:37.000And people are going to take it as confirmation bias the same way they did with the release of the JFK files.
00:13:41.000People that are like, oh, people found in the JFK files what they were looking for, regardless of whether it was there or not.
00:13:49.000And I think this is going to be another situation like that.
00:13:53.000But Shane was talking last night about Epstein's contacts with other foreign entities and people that he's been involved with.
00:14:00.000I think that that's the more interesting part of it because that kind of stuff speaks to the corruption that was involved as opposed to what is largely known, the stuff that he was in jail for trafficking already.
00:14:16.000The emails too is like that just alludes to the level of sloppiness that could explain why some of the timeline here is just like weird.
00:14:23.000It's like, yeah, you can attribute a lot of this to just carelessness, sloppiness, cockiness, a lot of these different things.
00:14:28.000So, I mean, I think since there's consensus here that this is widely regarded as an attempt by Democrats and others to derail the Trump agenda, it really begs the question why Rhino Congressman Thomas Massey introduced this bill to the Congress in the first place for any other reason but to try to derail the Trump agenda.
00:14:47.000And I mean, Tim, that's your favorite congressman who introduced this bill.
00:15:10.000He co-sponsored the introduction with Rokano.
00:15:13.000Democrats decided that Donald Trump was implicated in Epstein and started putting up billboards of Trump and Epstein as friends.
00:15:20.000And this ignited the Trump-Epstein saga, even though this was happening under the Biden administration and the first Trump administration.
00:15:27.000It seemed largely that Democrats didn't have a play politically.
00:15:30.000I can't tell you what they're campaigning on as a party.
00:15:33.000And so then, of course, Massey's like, I'm going to introduce this bill.
00:15:36.000RoConna said, I'm going to introduce a bill.
00:15:39.000And then we got to this point where it's like, I don't know if there's, I would say half, half a distraction because I don't know what's going on anyway, to be completely honest.
00:15:51.000I don't know what Trump is currently working on, right?
00:15:55.000Giving H-1Bs and Chinese visas without explaining what he's doing for the American people.
00:16:07.000Republicans clearly are like, yeah, Trump's not threatened by this, and we're over the story.
00:16:11.000So, first, it was the, like, there's roughly a handful of Republicans who were pushing, um, who were allying with the Democrats to allow this to advance.
00:16:19.000It was Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massey, and they're in their.
00:16:22.000The Republicans didn't want it, and they were like, you know, even Speaker Johnson.
00:16:25.000And then when it became inevitable because of Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green and a couple of other Republicans, is why Trump had to tell all these other Republicans to flip.
00:16:33.000So what do you think about those handful of Republicans?
00:16:35.000I would push back on the idea that it's inevitable when there's only a handful of Republicans when they're dealing with a body that's 435 members.
00:16:42.000If it was something that was inevitable, it would have had popular support in the beginning.
00:16:47.000It was inevitable because they just had a special election in Arizona, which gave them 218 votes, including Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey.
00:16:56.000I don't know if it's also had Anna Paulina Luna, but it required those Republicans or they weren't going to be able to advance this.
00:17:03.000I know you used to work on the Hill a bit.
00:17:05.000What do you think about this inside politics?
00:17:07.000Am I crazy here about how Massey introduced this?
00:17:10.000And, you know, there was a handful of Republicans necessary to advance this legislation, essentially derailing in attempts to derail the Trump agenda, in my estimation.
00:17:19.000And I mean, that's why the president also has unendorsed Marjorie Trader Green, who he's calling her now, and an opponent to Thomas Massey.
00:17:26.000Yeah, I mean, from like, if you want to talk procedure and stuff, which is totally boring, I mean, it was inevitable through the sense that once they had a discharge position, it was petitioned and the numbers that they needed to get that out the door in the House, like it was going to come to the floor and be debated, right?
00:17:41.000And it was going to have to be voted on.
00:17:42.000And if you're a Republican or a Democrat, and, you know, when Jeffrey Epstein died, that was a national news story.
00:17:49.000Like, every American was like, who is this guy?
00:18:11.000If Trump was like complicit in any of this stuff in a really damning way, then, you know, they probably would have released this stuff on their own, right?
00:18:19.000To really damage him and our coalition.
00:18:20.000So I think, you know, it's probably been scrubbed of meaningful things.
00:18:24.000But I think there was a period of time in which the American people were like very fired up about this issue.
00:18:29.000So from like a political standpoint, like House, Senate politics, like, yeah, once the discharge petition numbers were there, like it was going to come up.
00:18:37.000How should we feel about those Republicans who are willing to ally with Democrats to advance this legislation that I think is trying to derail the point about it being derailing?
00:18:46.000If this actually does pass and it comes out and it puts it to bed, doesn't it actually allow the MAGA agenda to move forward?
00:19:21.000But the people that are going to say that this is, you know, like we said, the people that are going to say that this is not complete or any redactions mean, et cetera, they're going to say that anyways.
00:19:31.000Like, that's like being worried about the Democrats are going to call you names or say that you're a racist because you talk about immigration.
00:20:01.000I think obviously the people watching this care because they're concerned about the goings-on.
00:20:05.000But I'd be willing to bet that if we decided to change the thumbnail of the show and the title to actually, let me do a quick search real quick.
00:20:48.000And the fatigue is not that people don't care about the goings-on of the world so much, but that many people are basically saying, I've heard this 800 times already.
00:21:43.000So I think that's- Oh, it looks like it looks like actually, I'm sorry, Cloudflare's trending traffic has declined considering we're back on the internet.
00:21:52.000But Google anti-gravity is on the rise as a trend.
00:21:57.000And more people care about whatever that is.
00:21:59.000And I would say that I'm actually really curious.
00:22:01.000And if you've never heard of the NBA, Warriors versus Magic sounds really whimsical and exciting.
00:22:14.000To your point, Ryan, though, like if that's the case, right?
00:22:18.000People don't actually, like, the large portion of the American population doesn't really care.
00:22:23.000I think that the administration should start focusing on doing whatever it can do to benefit the lives of the everyday American who is having problems, paying their bills, who is having problems, making ends meet, because that's what's going to matter in a year when people are going to the midterms.
00:22:43.000I just wanted to get this in really quick for the record for the Republican congresspeople who forced the vote on these Epstein files before the president asked all Republicans to vote for it.
00:22:53.000It was spearheaded by Thomas Massey, and then we have Nancy Mace, Lauren Bobert, Marjorie Taylor, and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:23:01.000So, well, these are people also that they're much more aware.
00:23:05.000They're much more accountable to like online coalition.
00:23:08.000Like their coalition is built off a lot of online things.
00:23:10.000That's where a lot of their oxygen comes from.
00:23:13.000So they're going to be more reactive to things that people that are tuning into a lot of these types of shows are.
00:24:27.000But I mean, like, that's the, that's the thing that people love about Donald Trump: the, the fact that he'll take it to the media, that he'll call him names, he'll, he'll do the Donald Trump thing and, you know, insult the media who constantly insults him.
00:24:42.000And like, that to me is just red meat to the base.
00:24:44.000The American people don't like political correctness.
00:27:33.000We can do the content where you basically just find something that you find a vagary and then just act like it's weird.
00:27:42.000This is what I, you know, actually, there's a lot we can talk about in this regard because people are sending me all these videos about Turning Point USA related to finances and all the conspiracy theories, and I've largely not talked about a lot of them.
00:27:53.000Not to get into specifics on that, but what I find with a lot of these conspiracy videos is it'll be like something like a Lod will show up to do the show.
00:31:39.000Because your news is so fake and it's so wrong.
00:31:42.000And we have a great commissioner, the chairman, who should look at that.
00:31:46.000Because I think when you come in and when you're 97% negative to Trump and then Trump wins the election in a landslide, that means obviously your news is not credible and you're not credible as a reporter.
00:32:53.000So I'm not going to lie, my biggest fear as a White House correspondent is asking a question to the president, having him say, what outlet are you with?
00:34:10.000Mr. President, as the most pro-Israel president that has ever existed, why do you support Israel and the Jewish people so much in a time of rampant anti-Semitism?
00:34:34.000Mr. President, as the most handsome president of my generation, do you have concerns over your staunch support of Israel being taken by anti-Semites and used against you in the midterms?
00:35:20.000Yeah, it's hard to feel bad for any of these journalists because they're actually in a hyper privileged position to be in any of those locations to begin with.
00:35:29.000I desperately wanted to be in the pool when Muhammad bin Salman was here earlier today.
00:35:33.000They had the opportunity to go in there and ask questions to them.
00:35:36.000If you're ever on Air Force One, you have to have a lot of money to be able to pay to be on there.
00:35:40.000It costs money to be on there, and that's a barrier to entry.
00:35:43.000But then for them to give you that access and then let you to be on there, you know, to be able to ask the president questions, you're in a position of power.
00:35:50.000All these people are hyper-privileged and lucky to be there.
00:35:52.000Beyond that, I saw it was like Rebecca the Blaze reporter.
00:36:13.000the wranglers though with flowers or something you know you should do is caroline levitt i could get her to something No, no, when you go to the Oval Office next time and like Trump's going to be there, bring two Big Macs and literally be eating one as you ask your question.
00:36:25.000I actually brought one for you, Mr. President.
00:36:27.000My question for you is: he's going to be like, oh, thank you.
00:37:10.000Right now, here in Dearborn, Michigan, you have a group of Christian protesters who have came out here to Dearborn as it is the number one city for Islam here in the United States, as it is one of the only towns here in the United States where the majority of the population belong to the religion of Islam.
00:38:13.000I want to show off this far side comic to the Davos group and the World Economic Forum so they can understand Dearborn, Michigan.
00:38:21.000It's a comic from the far side where there's two aliens, and one says, Zorak, you idiot, you've mixed incompatible species in the Earth Terrarium, and it's an earth terrarium with a grizzly bear eating a hunter.
00:38:32.000And my point is, when I see Christians and Muslims fighting each other in Dearborn, this multicultural democracy idea they have where they're like, multiculturalism is great until you put two religions next to each other that oppose each other and they start fighting.
00:38:51.000You're not going to have an ideology that doesn't like the other ideology, stand at each other, smile, and work together.
00:38:57.000And that's the problem of polarization in this country is because the more entrenched the ideology gets, the more likely you're going to get towards the higher the chance of getting towards violence.
00:39:05.000Well, what they've done in this country is they've created enclaves of various groups like Somalis in Minnesota, Minneapolis, and now Islam in Muslims in Dearborn.
00:39:15.000And in these surrounding areas, you're going to have American Christians and you're going to have a growing influence of Islam.
00:39:20.000And there's going to be a clash of ideas because there's going to be people in the American traditionalist side being like, hey, what you're doing to those little girls is not good.
00:39:29.000Not saying like literally every Muslim is going to do that, but there's practices in Islam that Americans will not tolerate or even illegal that are happening there in Dearborn.
00:39:37.000This idea of mixing all these cultures in terms of like putting them next to each other does not work.
00:39:44.000Well, I mean, like the Democrats, you expect them to support this, obviously, because they subscribe to the blank slate theory, these sorts of things.
00:39:51.000But even the Republicans are completely to blame for this because for the longest time, the dialogue, even Republicans are endorsing mass migration.
00:39:58.000They're like, well, we'll just give them like a pocketbook constitution and they'll become as American as anybody else.
00:40:02.000And this is every single time you see a story like this where you've imported some sort of old world conflict into America.
00:40:09.000It's just a reminder that like, no, there actually is something intrinsic to being an American.
00:40:13.000It's a little bit deeper than just like general vague subscription to like liberty and freedom.
00:40:19.000It's like, yeah, most people are like on board with that.
00:41:47.000Well, you know, it takes a certain kind of people that are looking for the type of government that we have.
00:41:56.000And it's like you've said before, the Constitution, it doesn't make people love the Constitution, right?
00:42:02.000If your Constitution is in the people and they believe in the Constitution, if you have a population that doesn't believe in things like property rights, no written Constitution is ever going to make them believe in property rights.
00:42:17.000I mean, it doesn't work because America is not an idea.
00:42:52.000Neoconservatism was one of the most, I think, misguided and destructive ideologies that seeped into the right in just like American political history.
00:43:23.000It produces enclaves of people that have Like-minded, you know, cultures, and they believe that they want to have their society in a larger, broader society.
00:43:35.000And this is like the this is where the conversation needs to move.
00:43:37.000Because when you're like talking about immigration, why we should restrict immigration, everyone is in agreement, or a lot of people on the right are in agreement that, like, okay, so there's some economic impacts, like housing, jobs, et cetera, et cetera.
00:43:48.000But we also need to stop shaming people for having like concerns about the culture of their country changing.
00:43:53.000Like immigration, as a British person, radically alters your culture because the demographic composition of your country is a very valid complaint to have, a very valid concern to have.
00:44:04.000And so I'm really tired of people that are supposedly on our side, like tone-policing everybody over saying, like, yeah, you know what?
00:44:10.000It would be nice if New York City didn't have, like, Zoron wouldn't be a thing because Zoron actually is assimilated.
00:44:50.000Another thing that Orin was saying in that podcast, he was saying, you know, just because you have someone that comes to the United States, they shouldn't automatically think that they're going to become a citizen.
00:44:59.000And he was saying, you know, maybe he's like, just because you get a green card and you're allowed to live here doesn't mean that you'll become a citizen, doesn't mean that you should expect to be able to vote.
00:45:10.000Like, but the idea that you come to the United States and you become a citizen and you automatically get a set, you're getting enfranchisement and you get a say in how this country is, you know, what the government's like and what kind of laws are passed.
00:45:26.000Like that shouldn't be the way that we run our country.
00:45:28.000What kind of empire historically would allow a foreigner to come to that country who like bothered to get a citizenship like five years ago and then take over the seat of that empire?
00:46:02.000If you were at a bar or restaurant and let's just go back, I don't know, maybe the 60s, 70s, you're with your wife and a guy walked up and said something untoward to your wife.
00:46:23.000No one, everyone puts their hands up and like, what do we do?
00:46:26.000The criminal runs, you know, someone will steal money from the register and everyone's like, better not do anything about it.
00:46:31.000You've got the story where a guy tried shoplifting from a spirit Halloween.
00:46:35.000And when the security guard stopped him, fight breaks out.
00:46:38.000And when the criminal is on top of him punching him, the security guard shoots the guy and gets charged.
00:46:44.000So a criminal tried robbing a place and the security guard doing his job to stop him is getting beaten by the guy, shoots him in self-defense, and they charge the security guard.
00:46:52.000That's what I mean by we are not a brutal people in the right way anymore.
00:46:56.000We've gone too far in the other direction and now we're basically like, no, no, don't.
00:47:00.000Like the criminals, it's not their fault.
00:47:02.000Have we stopped to ask what socioeconomic factors made the guy try to steal from the store?
00:47:06.000Well, the brutality is permitted for like the lowest common denominator.
00:47:25.000Let me pull this story from the from the Associated Press.
00:47:28.000Man sets fire to a woman on a Chicago L-train before fleeing, police say.
00:47:33.000And the only question I have is: what socioeconomic factors led this man to incinerate, to immolate this woman, this poor man, this poor, poor man.
00:49:46.00026-year-old woman, a 45-year-old man, and he poured a liquid on her and ignited it.
00:49:52.000I try not to beef with randos on the street, especially with people with nothing to lose.
00:49:56.000Those are the people who you want to argue with the least.
00:49:59.000If they look like they have nothing to lose, you just got to take it, drop your ego, walk away, especially from the usual suspects, homeless-looking people.
00:50:06.000I learned during COVID in DC when it was like me and just the tweakers on the metro that you just don't interact with anyone on the trains.
00:50:12.000Like there's a ton of people who just camp out and ride all day long that are ready to lose it.
00:50:18.000This is a lesson you learn in Chicago.
00:50:20.000My friends from the suburbs would road rage all the time.
00:50:24.000And I was like, you will be shot and murdered.
00:50:27.000I'm like, if you are in my car, don't scream and hang out the window at another vehicle because they will pull a gun and put a bullet in your face.
00:50:35.000You just let them honk rage or cut you off.
00:50:39.000Bro, I've been driving down the street in Chicago and a guy just pointed a gun out of his car and just shot at me and my brother for no reason.
00:52:12.000I didn't know it got so much attention.
00:52:14.000I tweeted it and just forgot about it.
00:52:15.000But Snopes did a breakdown, and they were basically saying Tim Pool's data is misleading as it doesn't actually clarify what's going on, blah, blah, blah.
00:52:26.000So they made their own graph, which shows literally the same thing.
00:52:31.000Combined violent crime rates by mayoral party of the 13 U.S. cities with the highest crime instances.
00:52:39.000The point is, in a city where the population votes Republican, crime is, there is less crime.
00:52:47.000And on average, the point of the chart was not to say Republicans commit less crime than Democrats.
00:52:53.000It was to say Democrats control all of the major cities, and this is where crime is happening.
00:52:59.000My expectation from this, because we've gone over the data before, a separate chart, is that in cities where you have a Republican mayor, crime is actually lesser.
00:53:09.000So you don't need to look at the top 13 cities.
00:53:16.000Crime is lower on average here than in other places.
00:53:20.000You look at all of the major blue cities, and that is where most of the crime is occurring.
00:53:23.000The reason I put this together is because there was a story from the Washington Post a couple years ago that said, when you track per capita and when you track volume, Democrat cities have the highest per capita and the highest volume of crime.
00:53:36.000And there was only one city at the time, it was San Diego, that was run by a Republican that made it to the top, and it had a lower than average crime per capita and by volume.
00:53:44.000And they argue, well, by volume doesn't make sense because it's a lower population.
00:53:49.000This is what you get in places like Chicago.
00:53:53.000Look, man, here's the question for you guys and for the audience, and you guys can comment.
00:53:58.000How do you feel about living in a society where you are told, if someone begins to berate you or threaten you, shut up and just do as you're told?
00:54:12.000I have always been more of the mind of growing up in Chicago, the lesson I learned was if you refuse to be weak, they'll leave you alone.
00:54:24.000And I think this is true because the United States for a while had this ethos in terms of foreign policy.
00:54:30.000We don't negotiate with terrorists for hostages for anything.
00:54:34.000But if someone takes a kidnapper in a foreign country, the U.S. says they make sure the statement is, you will get not a single penny from us, but special forces will rain down at two in the morning from a helicopter with night vision and put a bullet in the face of you and your families and rescue the hostages.
00:55:24.000Certainly, there are instances where if you're walking on the street and some crazy dude threatens you and you try and go to a fight, you might die.
00:55:36.000If you're the kind of person that will be demure, when someone comes up to you and threatens you, you say, yes, anything you say, you will get robbed more often.
00:56:26.000How does a culture get to the point where people have no fear that they can bring lighter fluid or some kind of flammable liquid and be on a train and be like dousing a woman?
00:56:39.000I understand it's a matter of seconds to splash someone with a liquid and then light them up, but it's still not faster than a stab or something.
00:57:34.000This guy, presumably, I'll just speak about like these homeless, these, you know, mentally disturbed people in general, is they don't even have the mental faculties to even comprehend what the outcome could be of their action.
00:57:46.000And that's why they need to be institutionalized.
00:57:48.000They can't even understand that there would be any law that would come down on them.
00:57:52.000When your IQ is so low, you have zero impulse control.
00:57:55.000You have zero comprehension of consequences.
00:57:58.000That's why the breakfast question is a thing.
00:58:00.000This guy would not be able to answer the breakfast question.
00:58:07.000What if this is a person who's of sound mind who just says, they will do nothing about this?
00:58:12.000It could be, but he would be an exception to the majority of people on the Chicago trains that are walking around that are just ready to snap at any moment.
00:58:19.000I think what we've seen, it's fair to say that in a lot of Chicago with the violence, it certainly is a breakfast question issue.
00:58:25.000These guys are killing each other because they're being insulted on the internet.
00:58:28.000It's funny because for most people, when you go online and we all insult each other, it results in nothing.
00:58:33.000But in Chicago, you insult somebody, they show up to your house, and they got switches and they just spray your house down.
00:58:39.000And there was a story I covered where some old lady got killed because the dudes lived in the second floor in an apartment and in the back.
00:58:46.000So when they unloaded in the house, the lady on the first floor got killed because the guys upstairs are talking smack on Snapchat.
00:58:52.000Yup, those guys wouldn't answer the breakfast question.
00:58:54.000For those that aren't familiar, it's if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?
00:58:59.000And if their response is, but I didn't have breakfast or, but I did have breakfast, it means they can't understand a conditional hypothetical.
00:59:07.000And the response should be, if I didn't, hungry, I guess.
00:59:12.000Or if you're someone who doesn't, I don't eat breakfast.
00:59:14.000I'd say, well, considering I don't eat breakfast, I probably would feel the same as I always do.
00:59:33.000You know, the problem is, I think it's multifaceted.
00:59:36.000First of all, it's the criminals know that most people in our society are going to behave in a passive way.
00:59:44.000So they're going to be able to get away with it.
00:59:46.000And a big part of the reason why people will behave in a passive way is because, first of all, the justice system will prosecute you for defending yourself if you actually quote unquote win the engagement, right?
00:59:59.000You somehow are able to come out on top and not get beaten to a pulp or you're able to defend yourself.
01:00:06.000The justice system is going to prosecute you or attempt to prosecute you like it did with Daniel Penny.
01:00:11.000And they know that if they're the people that are aggressing, if they're going to attack people, the justice system will not prosecute them.
01:00:19.000You've got consistently repeat offenders that are carrying out these attacks and stuff.
01:00:25.000And there's nothing that the government does.
01:00:27.000The government doesn't put them, the justice system doesn't put them in jail.
01:00:30.000They're released on bail or bond immediately.
01:00:34.000They walk right out the same day they're arrested.
01:00:37.000And so there's no downside to people that have low impulse control just behaving however they want.
01:00:43.000Yeah, we've forgotten as a society that some people just don't want to be rehabilitated, right?
01:01:16.000And it happens to more people than you think.
01:01:19.000And this was why I particularly was like so ecstatic about President Trump putting the National Guard in D.C. Because there were so many staffers that were getting carjacked.
01:01:29.000There were so many staff that were going out at night to just go to the bar and have just a social gathering with their friends or just leaving work from the Hill and just interacting with people that only meant harm for them.
01:01:41.000There was a period of time on the Hill.
01:01:43.000I mean, people who worked with me know this.
01:01:45.000Like I was seriously pushing for staff to be able to conceal carry on the hill, right?
01:03:32.000I talked with Ben Davidson and fact-checked this, but yes, in the last hundred years, there have been 10 northern lights phenomenon in the lower 48 reaching down this far into the United States.
01:03:45.000Five of them happened in the last two years.
01:03:49.000Ben Davidson argues that the Earth's magnetic field is weakening.
01:03:53.000And so solar storms, as well as standard solar activity, is more likely to penetrate to the surface, causing power outages and radio problems, static interference, et cetera.
01:04:08.000They say since 2014, there is a gigantic dent in the magnetosphere that has grown to the size of, I think it says Europe and getting bigger.
01:04:19.000So the question I have here with this story, and they say, don't worry, it won't affect life on Earth.
01:04:28.000We've seen, again, with these auroras, there are theories that are called kooky that the poles may shift and this will cause a catastrophe on earth, a cataclysm.
01:04:39.000At the same time, I wonder if there is a connection to the fact that billionaires are building mountain bunkers in New Zealand, underground in Hawaii, in Montana, and Wyoming.
01:04:50.000Why are powerful people building underground mountain bunkers?
01:04:55.000Now, it could just be that if you got the money, why not?
01:06:22.000Well, the event is a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers, well, honestly, I think that it's a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers, they have a different concept of why they're building them.
01:06:34.000You know, it's like, well, it could be a pandemic that I have to get, you know, a pandemic that's worse than COVID, or it could be a nuclear war.
01:06:42.000It could be the poll shift or what have you.
01:08:27.000Bezos gets paid $83,000 salary, and then he gets, I think, like a million and benefits.
01:08:32.000When he wants to spend cash, he takes loans out.
01:08:35.000This means it's not so much, and I'm not saying it's impossible or very difficult, but they're doing more than just, I got the cash lying around.
01:08:41.000No, they're taking action and liquidating assets to be able to have the cash to build these deep underground bunkers or whatever.
01:08:48.000And this one is not even an example of a particularly expensive one.
01:08:51.000Like, I'm talking, bro, they got like, there are stories of mountain, like, planes landing inside of mountains.
01:11:58.000They'll make it like an Agartha high school page and judge if their teachers would make it in or not.
01:12:03.000And it's like the school assemblies right now are probably insane.
01:12:06.000They're probably doing like executions at these schools.
01:12:09.000It's insane what these kids are posting with their teachers.
01:12:12.000And you know what happened was like every time I bring up that Instagram keeps recommending these weird racist humor AI videos to me, people go like, you realize the algorithm is based on what you click on.
01:12:22.000I'm like, yeah, I click on them all the time.
01:12:35.000And it's like white people run through and then like Asians run through and then a bunch of Indians stop and get stuck in front of it and they're like panicking.
01:12:45.000There was another one where it was at the Olympics and there was a ladder with a pole going up to a fake roof with a smoke detector and there were two black women changing the smoke detector and it was like first place in 27 seconds.
01:12:59.000And I'm just like, I can't believe Instagram is loaded with these videos.
01:13:38.000So we got these videos popping up across Instagram that people describe as like racist AI videos or racist humor, whatever.
01:13:45.000I think this shows the fact that these videos are allowed, that the left is so desperately beaten, not gone forever, that there's no unified enemy culturally that the right is concerned about.
01:13:57.000Movies are dropping these film studios like Disney got rid of their DEI department or whatever.
01:14:54.000And now you're seeing these rifts emerge on the right because there's nothing else to be like for these individual ideological factions.
01:15:02.000What is left to defeat but their next most pressing passion?
01:15:06.000And so you're seeing the libertarians.
01:15:09.000Largely, I think the right is fracturing on interventionist and anti-interventionist, neoconservative versus new right, or whatever you want to call it.
01:15:17.000Yeah, I mean, I think it's really a test to how unifying Charlie Kirk was because he kept everyone focused.
01:15:24.000We had a good victory in the election, but we're not at the point yet where we can start like hashing these things out and re-litigating some of these issues.
01:15:31.000We still have a lot of work to do, and he kind of was that unifying.
01:15:34.000And for a lot of other people in the media space, he was kind of a tastemaker, these sorts of things.
01:15:39.000Once he's gone, a lot of people just lost focus right away and they forget that's like, hey, Trump still has three years.
01:15:57.000I mean, some of it's just that like we have an incredibly unique political coalition that has elected Donald Trump, right?
01:16:04.000And it's unlike anything I think we've seen in the past couple decades.
01:16:09.000I think the last time you saw a true like middle America recognition or like class that was represented was when Pat Buchanan was really running, right, in the 90s.
01:16:19.000And I think that that draws in different debates.
01:16:21.000And I think, you know, when people heard America first in 2015, when Donald Trump was running, they thought it meant America first, right?
01:16:29.000And I think, you know, Cota Villa was known for always saying that the primary concern of the statesman should be his own nation, right?
01:16:35.000Especially in times of revolution, right?
01:16:37.000Like international affairs should be subordinate to the domestic affairs.
01:16:42.000But I think what you're saying about this coalition was true.
01:16:48.000I just saw a clip where Anna Kasparian said she's been watching Candace Owens.
01:16:52.000And I'm kind of like, yeah, did you see that clip?
01:17:02.000And I'm wondering if there's like a reorientation now.
01:17:04.000I mean, with obviously the Heritage Foundation and the Tucker thing, and then the Tucker Candace turning point, like there is a rift that is very obvious to everybody.
01:17:17.000People are attacking Tucker for interviewing Nick.
01:17:19.000And the reason why I defend Tucker on this one is crazy because we've interviewed communists who have come on and advocated for Stalin-esque or like Maoists.
01:17:27.000They call themselves revolutionaries, and revolutions are not peaceful.
01:17:31.000They're not talking about peaceful change in government.
01:17:35.000The point is, there's no outrage when I debate a Maoist, but they lose their mind when Nick goes on an interview with Tucker Carlson.
01:17:43.000And it's just like Tucker can talk with whoever he wants and he can agree with whoever he wants.
01:17:47.000Like, what is this policing, this ideological policing that is now occurring?
01:17:51.000And I think we're seeing, it's what I described.
01:17:54.000Now that the shared enemy is routed, Democrats aren't gone forever.
01:17:59.000The question now is, who are we going to allow in our movement?
01:18:03.000And that means you're going to see certain factions be like, we don't want you here.
01:18:08.000Because, you know, I think it's fair to say people have different moral worldviews.
01:18:12.000You're not wrong to believe in your moral worldview and you don't want to share space with someone of an opposing moral worldview.
01:18:18.000And now that there's the greater villain is defeated, largely, they're now going to say, why am I sharing space with this person I disagree with?
01:18:26.000And it feels like with the Tucker rift that was a day or two ago where Trump said he can have everyone else want his show.
01:19:06.000It's not a surprise that now that Charlie's not with us anymore, we are starting to see the infighting the bubbling up, even Trump yelling at Marjorie Taylor Greene.
01:19:15.000I mean, I think Charlie was a negotiator and a leader and he brought people together and he helped.
01:19:23.000He was diplomacy between these various factions and without him, everything everyone's going in various, in different directions.
01:19:31.000I do think here's what, here's what I agree with you on a lot, Donald Trump as a character, there are all these different factions on the right that look up at Trump and say, here's what I agree with.
01:19:41.000And so that creates a sort of de facto, we're all here, we all agree, we like Trump.
01:19:46.000But I believe Charlie was the one at the ground level going between each group and saying, what do you need?
01:19:59.000I'm just thinking of all these different factions too, like traditionalists, pro-life people, people who would otherwise disagree with a lot of the things he does or says, willing to look past that and get on board.
01:20:09.000I don't know if somebody like a J.D. Vince or Marco Rubio would be able to achieve that in the future, especially when we're seeing more of these cracks in the Republican coalition.
01:20:18.000So, I mean, I feel like we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about it.
01:20:21.000A couple of weeks ago, there was a big uproar on the right from Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes.
01:20:27.000And then Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, put out a statement on Twitter defending Tucker and saying people who are calling him anti-Semitic were wrong and that he stands with Tucker firmly and strongly.
01:20:52.000It led to a shakeup at the Heritage Foundation that included you.
01:20:57.000Could you tell us a little bit more about what their thinking was behind the scenes and if they're feeling like they're caving to so-called cancel culture?
01:21:06.000I mean, I think Kevin has explained himself, and I don't think I need to explain anything for Dr. Roberts, right?
01:21:11.000I think he's a good man who, you know, I don't think he's necessarily apologized for the statement.
01:21:16.000I think he stood by the fact that we should not engage in cancel culture.
01:21:20.000I mean, who's to tell a guy like Tim who we can and can't have on a show like this, right?
01:21:27.000And I think, you know, one of the things that was occurring, and, you know, Kevin talked about this on Dana Losh, I think the day after he put out the statement was there are people behind the scenes that are trying to do that, that are trying to tell people who you can and cannot platform, right?
01:21:41.000I mean, maybe that post-World War II liberalism sentiment like prevails in some circles, but like those of us who are like actually conservatives and trying to conserve the ideals of the American founding, like one of those is primarily free speech.
01:21:57.000And when there's bad ideas, you hash them out and you point out what's bad about them and then you point out what's good, right?
01:22:04.000And you redirect people towards what's correct.
01:22:06.000And I think, you know, President Trump put that in his own way the other night.
01:22:10.000Like, I think Tate was recognizing that.
01:22:12.000I mean, like, President Trump said to himself, why would I tell Tucker Carlson who he can or can't have on his show?
01:22:17.000And I mean, you know, ironically enough, you want to talk about who's on people's shows.
01:22:22.000I mean, nobody was freaking out when Patrick Bett David had Nick Fuentes on his show like a month before, right?
01:22:26.000That doesn't mean that everyone's endorsing Nick Fuentes' ideas.
01:22:30.000Just to play devil's advocate here, the thing about Tucker Carlson is that I know he can be a great journalist when he chooses to do so, but for some reason, he chooses to pick and choose who he uses kids' gloves with.
01:22:40.000So for example, when he was going at Ted Cruz, he made sure to have every question set up and ready to go.
01:22:45.000Some people would argue that he threw a lot of softballs to Nick and was using this opportunity to kind of hedge around his edges.
01:22:52.000And could the difference be senator versus random internet guy?
01:23:53.000And I think there's a possibility of it.
01:23:54.000I do think the higher probability is that as the midterms come closer, everybody starts hyper-focusing.
01:24:00.000What's going to happen is Democrats will start campaigning.
01:24:02.000They're going to start saying crazy things.
01:24:04.000The focus in the news cycle will be Democrat promises insane thing they have no power to offer.
01:24:09.000And then it doesn't matter if you're pro- or anti-Israel.
01:24:12.000Everyone's focus is going to be, that's nuts.
01:24:15.000And this will bring the right together again.
01:24:17.000However, it doesn't bode well for 28, depending on what Vance has to offer and what his position is going to be, because you are going to get these people who are like, well, Vance, are you pro-Israel?
01:24:26.000And Tucker is a prominent anti-Zionist personality.
01:24:30.000He's critical of Israel and he's got a big following.
01:24:32.000So if JD Vance comes out and says, we're for Israel, Tucker then says, I'm not voting for you.
01:24:40.000And then his audience says no, and you lose the voters you need to win.
01:24:43.000I think you're going to lose the American interest if everything we do is debate foreign policy, right?
01:24:47.000Like the American people are purely focused on an America-first agenda.
01:24:52.000They want to see an agenda, particularly Gen Z, who has promised a world that they're just not seeing around them, right?
01:25:00.000Promised upward mobility, promised that if they go to college and get an expensive education, that they would have a high-paying job and a place where they want to live and raise their family, and they could go buy a beautiful home with a white picket fence and have that stereotypical dog and three kids running around in the front yard, right?
01:25:17.000And people are sick and tired of hearing all about foreign affairs, foreign relations, and they just want to hear about how can you make America better?
01:26:35.000It is such a small fraction of people that even care about this.
01:26:38.000Do you understand, though, that like kind of circles?
01:26:42.000It circles back to, though, it's like the person who Tucker was interviewing, Nick Funtes, has said good things about Hitler, though, and spoken of him in a positive light.
01:26:49.000And Tucker used kids' gloves when asking him about that stuff.
01:26:53.000So I guess the greater point would be while you're saying that it's only 1% of the population saying this, this guy is in an interview with Tucker where Tucker has nothing to say about it.
01:27:01.000And I think one of the greater, the bigger issue here becomes that if Fuentes becomes the face of the Republican Party, then the Republicans aren't going to win because this guy is unpalatable to a general electorate beyond, you know, the online right, frankly, and maybe small parts of the electorate, but definitely not to a general electorate in my estimation.
01:27:17.000So I think that's the like, I don't know, is it truly 1%?
01:27:19.000Because the internet would have me thinking something different unless I'm.
01:27:23.000I mean, that's the problem is that like it's the internet.
01:27:25.000All of this conversation is framed within the internet.
01:27:27.000I think there's millions of Americans.
01:27:29.000Yeah, I'm on the internet right now, though.
01:27:32.000Like, and I don't think that he was a bad guy and that I look up to him and I think Stalin were great guys, even though we're on the internet.
01:27:39.000Yeah, I think like a lot of Zoomers, IRL, like even if their politics, you know, are pretty far to the left, pretty far to the right, like they code very normally.
01:27:47.000There's still like a lot of normal kids.
01:27:52.000He was talking about the Zoomer staffing in DC.
01:27:54.000He's like, he said, I estimate 30 to 40% are Groipers.
01:27:57.000And I think he's using that as an analog because I think they're trying to set this trap up and they're trying to poison the well with Vance where they're trying to say anyone that is to the right of like Ted Cruz is a Groyper.
01:28:06.000And so like that's the trap that was being set up.
01:28:08.000And Rod Dreyer is great or whatever, but I'm just saying I don't think that 30 to 40% are like tuning into Nick Funtes every night.
01:28:14.000I think they're just people that are disaffected right-wingers that are just kind of frustrated at the way things are moving.
01:28:19.000And so they're, they want to see more and they get labeled groipers.
01:28:42.000I'm like, that's, I'm like, you can see it.
01:28:44.000That's what they're going to try to do is they're going to do what they did with the alt-right, where they're going to use that as like a dragnet for 28 when Vance is running and they're going to say, I think this is a neocon play and they're going to try and drag.
01:29:11.000And young people are, yeah, again, they've grown up in a world where it's like, why would you, if you're a centrist, that means you have some degree of loyalty to the system, some degree of wanting to uphold it.
01:29:21.000And if you're like, again, like a post-COVID Zoomer, why would you be a centrist?
01:29:25.000Like, what on earth has this system done to reward you in any way whatsoever?
01:29:36.000I mean, at least the people that are on the far left are also acknowledging something's wrong.
01:29:40.000If you're genuinely interested in the Gen Z debate and like the direction that our nation is heading, I mean, Mark Mitchell has been doing a lot of interesting polling and just kind of, you know, message testing with Gen Z on like how they feel about these things.
01:29:53.000And one thing that's really notable is, you know, Gen Z is not as concerned about like the policy debate and the press release and like the campaign sloganeering.
01:30:05.000And that's like when it comes to the Epstein file conversation, like we were talking about earlier, right?
01:30:09.000Like the problem that comes with like after this and like why it's a continual sideshow is because there has to be accountability if there are problems, right?
01:30:17.000And the American people just aren't used to seeing accountability from like the governing party right now.
01:30:23.000And Gen Z says, okay, we just imported like 20 million illegal immigrants during the Biden administration.
01:30:30.000Like who knows the actual number, right?
01:30:32.000Like the actual number is not going to be reported.
01:30:34.000But how many non-citizens do we have here that were probably on the terror watch list, right?
01:30:38.000Like how many PRC guys like slipped through and are now plotting an attack of some sort, right?
01:30:45.000Like you hear about these things all the time.
01:30:47.000But why aren't we engaging in a full-on mass deportation effort?
01:30:51.000No, I don't think it's a coincidence that the Republican congresspeople who have gone soft on immigration are the same congress people who pushed the vote for the Epstein files.
01:31:01.000That is Thomas Massey and again, Marjorie Taylor Greene have softened up their tones a lot on mass deportations.
01:31:17.000And then Marjorie Taylor Greene said, like, oh, it's impractical for businesses, for big businesses to get rid of all these illegal immigrants.
01:31:23.000And she recently did a media tour angling to that effect.
01:31:27.000I thought she was critical of Trump's H-1Bs.
01:31:29.000She doesn't think that we should be deporting as many people.
01:31:32.000She doesn't think we'll be able to deport all the illegal immigrants.
01:32:28.000And, you know, I started to look into it and I realized that if I replaced Phil, Elad, and Tate with H-1Bs from India, this show would be a lot cheaper to run and surge, of course.
01:32:37.000And it would be a very, very interesting political show that I think would be worth pursuing.
01:32:45.000We actually had a joke about this a few years ago where we wanted to open.
01:33:28.000Because to be honest with you, I mean, people might say the same thing about me while I don't agree with her.
01:33:34.000I do think that the optics of the ICE raids can end up causing problems for actually deporting people because you get squishy, left-leaning liberal women.
01:33:44.000They scream and yell because it looks like you're hurting people.
01:33:48.000I also have this quote about Marjorie Tellger and the Rift talking about how the Epstein rift.
01:33:52.000And she said, quote, this has been one of the most destructive things to MAGA is watching the man we supported early on three elections oppose the bill, she told reporters, watching this actually turn into a fight has ripped MEGA apart and a lot Eligal who has no idea what he's talking about.
01:34:08.000The last part I made up, just so you guys are aware.
01:34:10.000Okay, so she also said as a business owner in the construction industry that we need to be realists about labor and create a smarter plan in the business industry and the labor and the construction industry around immigration.
01:34:20.000So she's virtue signaling that we're trying too aggressively to deport illegal immigrants from construction sites in particular.
01:34:27.000She came up in the construction business.
01:34:29.000Her family has a lot of construction business.
01:34:30.000Is it against the rules of YouTube for me to say we should deport Elad?
01:39:47.000His track record is infiltrating organizations, utilize their create arguments that make them look like idiots and then trick them into publishing them.
01:40:13.000When you, Phil, who've watched him, are saying, I don't understand what he's saying, I think it's clear to say the simple solution is a man who intentionally infiltrates groups to present a fake argument that makes them look bad is probably doing the same thing right now because the pro-Israel side, like when you look at Konstantin Kaisen and Seth Dylan, and they're saying woke right means people who believe that Jews are oppressing them, you're like, I understand the point you're making.
01:40:40.000When James Lindsay comes out and then says, I should be in charge of the national movement and conservatives are bad and Mary is woke right, you go, this guy seems insane.
01:40:49.000These people that are claiming woke right are nuts.
01:40:51.000And that's basically been what he's what he's doing.
01:40:54.000He's doing effectively the same thing he did to academia, but to the neo, the neocon, pro-Israel conservative.
01:42:03.000I think if you put him and a neocon in a room 15 years ago, they'd be arguing the whole time.
01:42:08.000So it's surprising now that once again, the guy's famous for infiltrating groups is aligning himself with neoconservative, pro-Israel groups and making them look like they're retarded.
01:42:17.000I think it's just like, guys, this is what he does.
01:42:20.000Why are you acting like all of a sudden he's just incoherent?
01:42:22.000The man historically has been, he infiltrates the left, makes them publish an incoherent argument, and then everyone makes fun of them for saying something dumb.
01:42:30.000And now he's got neocons doing it, and everyone's like, he's serious.
01:42:40.000I identify as tax exempt says, does the Epstein files release include the files from the intelligence agencies?
01:42:46.000I believe it's technically supposed to.
01:42:49.000Whether it will, that's another question.
01:42:50.000So, a couple of things on those Epstein files that are being released.
01:42:53.000I believe that there are different judiciaries in New York and Florida that have their own associated Epstein files that will not be included in this legislative Epstein file drop.
01:43:05.000There's also the Jeffrey Epstein estate that has separate documents.
01:43:09.000So, I suspect, again, we will be seeing a drip of more Epstein info in the future, and this is not the end of it.
01:43:17.000Sinek says: if redactions can only be for national security, if whatever they release any redactions, then it is essentially confirmed this was some CIA Mossad blackmail scandal, and our government allowed children to be abused.
01:43:32.000For all we know, it could be they're aliens, and they're redacting it because aliens were kidnapping kids.
01:43:36.000I mean, I think it's your scenario is more likely, but if there are redactions for national security, it could be because there's a name of an agent that's passively mentioned because they provided some evidence in the file.
01:43:49.000So, put it this way: they could say, I spoke with agent redacted about information they provided from a witness who had at one point been working with an associate of Epstein's.
01:43:59.000That doesn't mean the redaction proves the intelligent agent was involved.
01:44:03.000So, there's likely going to be redactions in that regard.
01:47:07.000That's why left has gone that route because they're trying to build a coalition of various minorities, and the only thing you can offer them as a lowest common denominator is another group to hate.
01:47:15.000And then I guess the left argues that the right is arguing minorities as a whole or whatever.
01:47:21.000All right, that one gamer says there's more drugs coming from Mexico and Colombia than Venezuela.
01:47:25.000Mexico is asking for help from the U.S., Russia, et cetera, to fight cartels.
01:47:29.000Thoughts on actually doing good instead of another Iraqi oil run.
01:47:33.000Did you guys see that the Mexican president was attacking a senator who said that the intervention from Trump would be good?
01:47:38.000And she said this is, what did she call it?
01:48:04.000Look, if you've got a narco government at your southern border that continues to funnel in people and drugs and stuff, it is a national security threat.
01:48:17.000I think the thing that the super chatter was hinting on, though, is that the drug problem mostly isn't coming from Venezuela, although Venezuela may be sending some drugs, but the administration is having a disproportionate response to that.
01:48:29.000I know one of their reasons for attacking all these drug boats have been the drug issue, allegedly, but many other people think that they're just trying to overthrow and apply pressure to the Maduro regime, which they consistently call illegitimate and say that he is illegitimate and narco-dictator, narco-terrorist.
01:48:48.000I mean, like, there's so many documentaries exposing these CCP camps that are in Venezuela, and they train these people to come up through.
01:48:56.000That's going to alleviate a lot of these illegal immigration problems because, again, Venezuela aids a lot of these caravans that come in.
01:49:03.000Granted, the Darien Gap's been like the crossings across the Darien Gap is wild, which is remarkable.
01:49:09.000I totally agree that Venezuela requires some intervention, but I just think it's fascinating because the people who would usually bitch about neocons are still supportive of us being involved in Venezuela.
01:49:19.000Which, again, by the way, I am fully supportive of.
01:50:15.000And the market's the global commodity of oil and trying to discourage Russian oil from exporting further if we could decrease the price of oil because they have the biggest reserves in the southern hemisphere.
01:50:25.000The geopolitical incentive is way stronger than the resource incentive.
01:52:29.000They've not yet been posted in these networks.
01:52:32.000There is an interesting point that these videos have been bringing up.
01:52:35.000A bunch of podcasts are popping up about their 990s because the theory, I think this largely stems from Candace saying that Charlie wanted a Doge style audit a week before he was murdered.
01:52:47.000And now their tax filings didn't come in in October or something.
01:52:52.000For the first time, this is what one of the arguments is.
01:52:54.000For the first time, every year they filed four 990 forms, nonprofit tax forms, May 15th.
01:53:26.000And so that's why I'm like, guys, there are some interesting questions about why these various turning point entities were funneling money through each other.
01:53:35.000One of the things people brought up is that I don't know if this is true or not, but one of the arguments is that they created, there's turning point, turning point action, turning point endowment, and America's turning point.
01:53:45.000And they were moving money between them.
01:53:49.000But there's one of these podcasts saying Charlie was getting a salary from each of them around a quarter million to $300,000, meaning that if you looked at the 990 filings for TPUSA, you'd see Charlie getting 300,000 because you didn't know these other entities existed.
01:54:03.000But if you looked at him, you'd see Charlie was actually making over a million.
01:54:05.000I don't know if that's true, and I don't know what the point is that they're bringing it up to insinuate about Charlie, but I certainly think he deserved to get paid from his own companies.
01:54:12.000But as to the greater point, we didn't talk about it, and we'll talk a little bit about it in the uncensored portion of the show.
01:54:18.000But the latest update, because I'm not trying to be big on drama, but we were not invited back to Amfest.
01:54:27.000And so there was some, I guess, back and forth, drama, whatever you want to call it.
01:54:32.000And then ultimately I decided I had to pull the trigger on what our plans were for the end of the year.
01:54:37.000And so I was going to make a video explaining that we weren't invited.
01:54:40.000They have since said, no, like, please, we want you to come.
01:55:28.000And now I think the response we're getting in terms of, no, no, we'll have you there is largely due to potential negativity around the event and why we weren't invited.
01:55:37.000And I was asked by many people not to talk about it when the issue had come up that we weren't yet invited.
01:55:43.000And I was told constantly, just wait, just wait, just wait until it's less than a month away.
01:55:49.000And then I was explicitly told, well, you know, we weren't planning on having you back because you made hurtful comments.
01:55:52.000And I'm like, okay, guys, just tell me that and I'm gone.
01:55:55.000I think they didn't want me to do a video and be like, hey, guys, here's what's happening.
01:55:59.000I know that we promoted the event and told people to buy tickets, but we're not there.
01:56:02.000I'll go into greater detail in the uncensored portion of the show.
01:56:05.000So I'll say that there because I'm not trying to do a big drama thing.
01:56:08.000The reason I did the video is because I thought it was important that as we had promoted the event, us not being there was important for anybody who expected to see us there.
01:56:52.000I think the Fed is likely giving funds to construction companies to build houses to prop up the economy.
01:57:01.000I think it's a big scheme to create fake jobs.
01:57:05.000This is going to lend itself to inflation because they're injecting money into the system.
01:57:08.000But I don't understand how they're building as many houses as they're building.
01:57:11.000I guess I think the idea, bring down prices.
01:57:16.000I think the idea is the Fed gives, creates money upon the issues of debt to a construction company, a loan, which they can use to hire people to build a house.
01:57:24.000So those people have cash and then go to the grocery store.
01:57:27.000And this creates an artificial lubrication in the economy.
01:57:31.000And to be fair, it is true that we are constrained on supply for housing.
01:57:34.000Yeah, I think a lot of the demand side that they're trying to solve, it really comes down to supply because we could change how the mortgage is done and whatnot.
01:57:42.000But if the supply stays the same, then prices will not go down.
01:57:45.000I mean, a lot of the supply side problem will be solved by mass deportations.
01:57:49.000And then, like, there's incentives that have to come into play.
01:57:52.000I mean, we should be thinking about what kind of housing do we want developers to build because they're being incentivized to build the wrong kinds of things.
01:57:58.000I mean, everybody's thinking in high-rises, not homes, right?
01:58:01.000And then, like, I think to the Super Chat point, like, I think that's an interesting idea.
01:58:06.000I think there should be more creative solutions that were thrown at the wall and seeing what sticks right now on like for first-time homebuyers.
01:58:12.000I mean, should they be at the front of the line in considerations as it pertains to state law for like purchasing homes?
02:06:49.000And, you know, which brings us to the bigger question of what's happening with Amfest and all of this stuff because I know people had questions and more questions will probably come up.
02:07:01.000I'm friends with a bunch of people at Amfest.
02:08:25.000And I say, hey, look, man, whatever you guys need from us, we can do a shorter show if it's too heavy, too expensive, or maybe we'll do a show on the weekend so we can make sure.
02:08:44.000And then the last conversation on the matter was Friday when I was speaking with Andrew Colvett and he told me that due to comments I had made that were hurtful, they weren't planning on having me back.
02:08:54.000However, following that conversation, if I was still interested in going, he would try and make it happen.
02:09:00.000It was a heavy lift, but I'll see if he can make it happen.
02:09:01.000And I said, yes, absolutely, we want to go.
02:09:04.000At the same time, there is another event that we were planning on going to in Vegas just before Amfest.
02:09:10.000And so the schedule was going to be Vegas for first, the first Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, then drive to Phoenix four-hour drive and do Amfest.
02:09:19.000But the offer that we got from Vegas included free use of a studio.
02:09:23.000They needed confirmation on dates and I needed ASAP.
02:09:26.000So I, again, was texting with people at Turning Point, like, we really, really need to know what's going on because we're going to have what we have like 13 people who come to Phoenix for show production, scheduling, like just everything we do.
02:09:49.000This other organization, which I will have more announcements on once I confirm everything, was like, hey, we've got guests for you planned.
02:09:56.000We need to let us know if you're confirmed.
02:09:59.000And so on Monday, I was told, our booking person was told by the TPSA team, it's full and it's really hard to figure out how we can be involved at this point, but they're going to talk with the team and see if they can make it happen.
02:10:14.000And so I spoke with a handful of people and I was like, okay, hold on.
02:10:23.000They've now booked people for that time slot, told me that they weren't planning on having me back, but they keep telling us over and over again, we'll let you know, we'll let you know, we'll let you know.
02:10:34.000I was like, guys, I don't think they're having us back.
02:10:36.000I think they just don't want us to, like, they don't want there to be a big stink about us not coming.
02:10:41.000So I talked with a handful of people in and outside of Turning Point.
02:10:45.000Some people said, no, no, Tim, we have to have you.
02:10:47.000This is an oversight and we'll correct it.
02:10:49.000And I said, they've already filled the stage.
02:10:51.000They've booked people where we normally would be doing the show.
02:10:54.000So this just doesn't make sense anymore.
02:10:57.000And I have to give an answer to this other organization in Vegas about what our plan's going to be with this show.
02:11:03.000And there's prominent individuals that want to do a show.
02:11:04.000And it's more normie-oriented, I would describe it.
02:11:07.000I will absolutely talk about what we're doing in Vegas, but I want to get through this first.
02:11:11.000And so I talked with a handful of people.
02:11:14.000There's, I'm trying not to be so derisive, but, you know, there's tumult in Turning Point.
02:11:21.000Obviously, Charlie was doing a lot of the work.
02:11:23.000And without him, things become a bit hectic.
02:11:26.000And so having conversations with certain people, I said, I'm not doing this.
02:11:30.000I'm not playing this game of you go, someone makes a phone call, then people argue with each other.
02:11:35.000If the decision was we weren't going to be invited, and so the slot we normally had was filled up with other people, I have no problem whatsoever saying, it's been an honor of a lifetime.
02:12:09.000I don't want to drag anybody, but we booked somebody who's prominent, well-known, and apparently is like a conservative living individual in the more normyist kind of space.
02:12:15.000And I said, okay, this would be obviously on one of the days at Turning Point would be.
02:12:19.000And there's an opportunity for some other prominent individuals, which is better in terms of a general audience than a political one.
02:12:27.000And I think that's very good and important that we're doing events that bring us to a normie space so that we can get people involved, right?
02:12:36.000So I decided, okay, we've confirmed this.
02:13:05.000Last year, we threw out golden Trump sneakers autographed by everybody on the stage.
02:13:09.000And like we had a blast and Charlie came on.
02:13:12.000And the reason we were there was not because we were a big draw for tickets to people.
02:13:16.000I think we did like 2,000 people in like a stadium that holds like 10 or was it 10,000?
02:13:22.000But it was because the online audience was getting, from our side, was getting a view into Turning Point.
02:13:27.000And so it was a win-win between the two of us.
02:13:29.000Like Charlie was like, you'll be involved in our event and we're involved with your audience and we get a bigger reach that we don't normally get.
02:13:35.000Well, this time around, I just, I think the vision of the organization is we don't need Tim Poole.
02:14:04.000And the only reason I made the video is because it had gotten to that point where we're a month away with no confirmation and an inability to book travel and guests.
02:14:13.000And it's just like we're stressed about it.
02:14:16.000So I said, look, I've already confirmed the studio in Vegas.
02:14:21.000I was told explicitly that due to comments I said that were hurtful, where I said something to the effect of there are people who are concerned that Turning Point can't survive without Charlie.
02:14:30.000And that was deemed offensive by some individuals in upper management.
02:14:33.000They didn't invite me back and they filled the stage with other individuals.
02:14:36.000And I also was told by other individuals at Turning Point that as this decision was being made, they were having conversations behind the scenes, like we shouldn't do this to Tim.
02:15:06.000We are not activists for PACs and organizations or members of Congress.
02:15:10.000And so when we were offered an opportunity to be at a major Normie event of something that I deeply care about, I said, okay, we'll do the first three days there and then we'll go to Turning Point.
02:15:21.000But when I found out Turning Point said, we don't want you here because of your comments, I said, I am not going to be the person that made a phone call to prominent Turning Point personalities, demanded they go to executive staff and bump people off the stage who are already booked because I deserve stage time.
02:15:52.000You didn't need to go public and say these things.
02:15:55.000And friends being Tim, it's a redemption.
02:15:58.000I'm sorry that it played out this way.
02:16:01.000Now that we know about it, it's going to be rectified and the Timcast slot will be on stage.
02:16:05.000And I said, guys, with all due respect, I know it's not the organization's fault these things happen.
02:16:13.000I would assume it's principally mismanagement or maybe some people just don't like me, whatever it may be.
02:16:20.000But making the video and saying I'm not coming obviously was going to result in some kind of concern of drama or backlash, which would then result in people because I've got a lot of followers being pressured to vacate their stage time confirmed to make room for me.
02:16:53.000I was not even offered an attendee ticket and others were.
02:16:57.000If they don't want me there, the last thing I want is to make a phone call to a friend and say, make them bring me.
02:17:04.000Now that there's some pressure because I have a big show and people are going to watch the video, I feel that certain individuals are like, okay, Tim, you can come now.
02:17:19.000And so the people who are there, who are my friends and that we've done shows with, by all means, you know, I mean, no negativity.
02:17:24.000And I hope everybody still goes whether we're there or not.
02:17:27.000If you bought tickets because we were going to be there, you'll enjoy the show and have a great time.
02:17:30.000And I hope Turning Point succeeds in this regard.
02:17:33.000But if we get to the point where we're less than a month away, they filled the stage already.
02:17:37.000And only now, after some reconciliation, are they saying, maybe we'll work on this.
02:17:44.000My thought process was as of Monday, they told our team, we're full, but we'll see.
02:17:51.000You know, we're going to try and make it work.
02:17:52.000And I'm like, what do you mean you're full?
02:17:53.000Why didn't you tell us this a week ago, two weeks ago, a month ago?
02:17:57.000Bro, I texted them two weeks ago and said, I just wanted to follow, make sure we got the details because we're being a little close.
02:18:04.000And they ghosted me and didn't respond.
02:18:06.000So I'm kind of offended that only after I make a video saying I'm not going to be there and there's tumult now, it's like, no, Tim, no, it's all a mistake.
02:18:23.000That being said, I'm actually bummed to say this because I do not want to be in Las Vegas during Amfest, but I'm also not going to utilize pressure and girth to make management at Turning Point who didn't want me there make me come.
02:18:38.000We're friends with prominent personalities who work with Turning Point.
02:18:41.000So obviously they're going to have my back and go to the management and say, what do you mean you're not having Tim?
02:19:23.000And I usually, I consider my, I'm a winning player.
02:19:25.000I'm not going to pretend to be the best poker player in the world or even better than these influencers.
02:19:29.000But the concern we had is what we've always done is tried to do things that are outside the realm of politics, music, skateboarding, and the things that I know and poker.
02:19:37.000So when I was offered this stream at the lodge in Austin, we said, okay, Tim's going to go and I'm going to go to Roseanne.
02:19:42.000I'm going to go on Callan and Shob's podcast.
02:19:44.000We're going to go on the lodge stream.
02:19:46.000We're going to have Tim do a, these are like our PR team being like, Tim, you need to do things that are not political because the only time people get introduced to you is when you're angry about something and very, very opinionated.
02:19:57.000You need to be in environments where you're doing things that are just silly, fun, and you're friends with everybody.
02:20:03.000I said, okay, initially when I was offered the lodge poker game, I said no.
02:20:08.000And then after having this conversation, I said, okay, maybe we should do it and take an opportunity that I can go on other people's shows, talk about other issues and do PR in a different way.
02:20:18.000When the World Poker Tour reached out to us again about Vegas, I said, we're doing Amfest, so it's not going to be possible.
02:20:25.000And they said we could do something on the 17th.
02:20:27.000And I said, okay, actually, that works because we're only four hours away.
02:20:42.000And that they have prominent personalities, conservatives, who are in the space and would love to work with us and do the show.
02:20:48.000I said, no, because we're going to Amfest.
02:20:51.000Then when I found out that they filled the slot, blocked us and told us no, I was left with limited time to book travel and make a decision.
02:20:59.000I could go to the World Championships with the World Poker Tour.
02:21:02.000These people have millions of followers.
02:21:04.000I'm going to be on a stream with people who have two, three, four million followers.
02:21:08.000It's going to be a big show and it's going to be outside of the world of politics, which is really great for brand building and bringing attention to the work that we believe in.
02:21:15.000Not that I would rather be playing a poker game as opposed to being at the big event for Amfest, but it was before.
02:21:22.000Considering what ended up happening, I said, am I going to wait and miss both opportunities?
02:21:28.000Or am I going to just recognize that they booked the stage and didn't want me there?
02:21:33.000And I would be shoehorning my weight at this point.
02:21:57.000But the issue is I've already said we've booked people.
02:22:02.000And again, I'll stress, I know there are going to be people who are going to be like, oh, Tim's a degenerate going to play poker instead of going to Amfest.
02:22:08.000They turned around and offered him a come anyway.
02:22:20.000And I don't think it's fair that because I have a big show and it's and it's worrisome for them that they would now shift everything around.
02:22:28.000Not to mention, in reality, I was looking at hotels and flights and I'm like, guys, this is nuts.
02:22:33.000They put us in a position where even after reinviting us, it's damn near impossible to do.
02:22:37.000So I'm a little pissed off about that.
02:22:38.000Not at, you know, Jack or Benny or any of these guys at Turning Point who are who have my back and I respect tremendously.
02:22:44.000But the idea that now they're saying, no, no, Tim, we've changed our mind.
02:22:53.000We are going to be hanging out with there are a handful of prominent conservatives in the poker space and in sports betting and influencers who are going to be there, who are fans.
02:23:03.000And I think it's a good opportunity to do, I guess, just like outreach appearances on other shows that are outside the political space.
02:23:11.000It wasn't my first choice, but I will do what I have, what I can and what I have to do.
02:23:34.000I think, you know, Turning Point has undergone something that no organization would ever want to experience during a year and that, you know, an assassination was carried out on their leader.
02:23:43.000And I think there was probably some commotion this year and insane demand for people to be at Amfest.
02:23:49.000I'm sure that more than ever, they probably had a ton of people saying, Can I be on stage at Amfest?
02:24:13.000And I think if you guys are able to, you know, work that out, I think your intentions are pure, man.
02:24:17.000I think you've stated pretty clearly that you don't want to just like bump people off the stage and you're not trying to do what you did to like strong arm yourself into it.
02:24:26.000If there's a, if there's a legitimate way for them to, you know, maybe shuffle some things around so you have a little bit of time.
02:24:33.000Like, I think, I think the American people would love to have you there.
02:26:34.000So what you're describing as Charlie would want you there and you should consider it is a conversation we had two weeks ago and then followed up again a week later and discussed it.
02:26:43.000And I sent text messages out and I got a message back from someone there saying, you know, Andrew says he's not sure if you're coming yet.
02:26:49.000And I'm like, we're a month, we have five weeks out and you're telling me they're not sure if I can be there.
02:26:54.000In reality, he had already scheduled the stage.
02:26:57.000They had already scheduled the stage while telling me, hold off.
02:27:02.000You know, ironically for them, they're actually expediting the process of their demise by burning bridges with people like you and validating what you said originally for what for the heavens.
02:27:33.000And the insinuation was that Charlie was murdered by insiders at Turning Point, to which my point was they're showing strength because they have to, but there really are concerns.
02:28:17.000But I want to stress again, while we were being told, just wait a little bit longer, they had already known internally we were not invited and had scheduled the stage.
02:28:29.000The issue there is I feel like, and this is what I was talking with people internally here, like they're going to turn around and then invite us when it becomes incredibly strenuous to do and we're stressed.
02:28:43.000Put us in a position where now if we don't go, they're going to say, but of course we invited Tim Poole, knowing that logistically it's nightmarish to try and make happen.
02:28:54.000While I was asking them for the updated details and they were telling me, we'll get back to you, they knew they had already booked our spot and weren't inviting us.
02:29:04.000Look, you might have to force Charlie's, you had to force Charlie's will on them.
02:29:33.000And now, like, one of the biggest events that he would hold was Amfest.
02:29:38.000You're not going to be participating in that.
02:29:41.000I'm not saying in an opportunistic way, you should, you know, I think the mantle needs to be continued and you could contribute a lot to them.
02:29:49.000And it would be, you know, to their benefit for you to be there and the movement for you to be there.
02:29:53.000But yeah, no, if you are you firm in your decision?
02:29:59.000So the only reason I'm talking about it is because we hit the crescendo.
02:30:18.000I've got, if they're going to keep telling me, just keep waiting, but they already booked the stage.
02:30:24.000Am I going to miss the opportunity in Vegas, which is not preferable, by the way?
02:30:29.000I'd rather have done the Amfest stage.
02:30:32.000If I just say, wait, wait, wait, I'm going to give all of the time and all the benefit to Amfest when I already knew they filled the stage and we weren't invited.
02:31:28.000And I'm not going to go to them now and say, cancel the studio, even though, like, I just can't do this.
02:31:33.000I don't bring it publicly because while it's all going on, because I'm like, I don't want there to be, like, I got to be honest, like, there's a lot of questions and concerns about what's going on in Turning Point USA.
02:31:46.000There's a lot of videos about their financials, questions of the endowment and investments in the stock market and all these things.
02:31:52.000And I've done nothing but defend Turning Point to try and offer up some stability.
02:32:00.000You know, I got to be completely honest.
02:32:03.000Loyalty is the most important thing, in my opinion.
02:32:07.000And they have shown me, not all of Turning Point, but basically one individual or whoever was involved in the booking, disloyalty.
02:32:19.000The fact that they were dragging you along is the thing that to me is kind of, you know, unforgivable or the reason why you shouldn't, you know, shouldn't acquiesce and say, okay, I'll go to this.