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00:02:47.000 In the weirdest of timelines, the House and the Senate have nearly unanimously voted to pass the Epstein Transparency Bill.

00:02:54.000 So they will be releasing all of these Epstein files, whatever they may be.

00:02:58.000 I say near unanimous because one member of the House was like, nah, we ain't doing this, which is weird, I guess.

00:03:03.000 I mean, everybody's doing it.

00:03:05.000 Why don't you do it too, sir?

00:03:06.000 But he said, that's not how we get things done.

00:03:08.000 And fortunately for him, that is exactly how things got done.

00:03:10.000 Now, we don't know what's exactly in these files or why Trump all of a sudden turned around and said, you know what, let's release them.

00:03:16.000 But I think it's fair to say, whether you're on the left or the right, everybody agrees they've been scrubbed a long time ago.

00:03:21.000 So what is the point of all this?

00:03:24.000 It doesn't speak to the midterms or policy or anything really, but it's the big story today because I guess everyone's exhausted, fatigued, and that's all the Democrats and Republicans are going to give us.

00:03:35.000 So there is some other interesting news, of course.

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00:03:43.000 I don't care.

00:03:45.000 I like that Trump called a reporter Piggy.

00:03:47.000 I don't know why he would, but sometimes they deserve it.

00:03:50.000 And then in other news, there's Christians protesting Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan, which is also just, it's a crazy news day.

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00:04:00.000 And okay, I guess, you know, if this is the direction the country is going, we'll bring you the news.

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00:08:02.000 Let's get into it.

00:08:03.000 Here's the news from CNN.com.

00:08:05.000 Senate unanimously agrees to send Epstein bill to Trump's desk once it's received from the House.

00:08:12.000 Oh boy, the Epstein files, the House passed it almost unanimously, only one person defective.

00:08:18.000 The Senate unanimously passed it.

00:08:20.000 And they're saying, Donald Trump signed this bill.

00:08:23.000 According to courthouse news service, Congress on Tuesday nearly unanimously passed legislation aimed at shining a spotlight on the federal government's investigation into Epstein.

00:08:33.000 But the push to publish the so-called Epstein files is headed to President Donald Trump's desk without changes demanded by skeptical House Republican leadership.

00:08:40.000 Both Democrats and Republicans have long urged Congress to pass legislation directing the Trump administration to publish a trove of documents on Epstein.

00:08:46.000 Let me just put it this way.

00:08:47.000 They've got a veto-proof majority.

00:08:49.000 Trump's going to sign this.

00:08:50.000 I don't know what the point of this is.

00:08:52.000 Anybody who's been following this for a long time, a great example being Mike Cernovich, whose work actually got the Epstein files released, or I'm sorry, I should say got the Epstein story to this point where they would release the Epstein files, has said they've long destroyed any of the more important or pressing documents.

00:09:09.000 So this seems like it's performative, largely a waste of time.

00:09:14.000 And wait, there's more.

00:09:16.000 Because while Donald Trump has come around and been like, okay, fine, release the files, which I think we're going to get nothing, we now can trust that our liberal friends are going to claim it's the bad move.

00:09:25.000 So here's Brian Krasenstein on queue to say, my question about the release of the Epstein files, what stops Trump from classifying any material he doesn't want released and then Pam Bonnie not releasing it?

00:09:35.000 What stops Pam Bonnie from claiming anything with Trump's name on it would be national security risk?

00:09:40.000 Will other member of Congress, other members of Congress or both from both parties get to see unredacted versions of whatever she redacts or classifies?

00:09:47.000 You see, the funny thing is this guy has been screaming about Trump releasing the files.

00:09:50.000 As soon as they say, okay, fine, we'll release the files.

00:09:53.000 It's just not good enough.

00:09:55.000 It's a fake story.

00:09:56.000 The Epstein case is obviously real.

00:09:58.000 I want the evidence.

00:09:59.000 Everybody should, but I believe it was probably destroyed.

00:10:02.000 And I think this is principally a distraction.

00:10:04.000 And the reason Trump probably came around and said, okay, fine, release it is because it's going to be a bunch of nothing, big nothing burgers.

00:10:11.000 I mean, I agree.

00:10:12.000 I think there's probably nothing in it, but I think it's good because at least the American people get to see whatever they release, right?

00:10:19.000 And then I think the question after this is accountability, right?

00:10:23.000 Is there anything that's actually going to be forced from an accountability mechanism?

00:10:28.000 And I think you saw the beginnings of that today with, you know, I think it was Representative Green in the House who issued the censor resolution.

00:10:38.000 And I think, you know, if members of Congress are communicating with Jeffrey Epstein, there should be accountability for that.

00:10:44.000 And I think the American people would want to see that.

00:10:46.000 Totally.

00:10:46.000 I suspect that those who are crazed over the Jeffrey Epstein scandals will not be satisfied by anything that is found in these released files.

00:10:57.000 I suspect Candace Owens still won't be satisfied with this unless people get the maximalist conspiracy theory around Jeffrey Epstein.

00:11:04.000 If Israel, Massad, and the CIA are not involved in a honeypot of 50 senators and 100 congressmen, then people will not be satisfied here.

00:11:11.000 So I suspect that will continue to be the case here.

00:11:14.000 Let me try my conspiracy for a minute, if you just entertain this.

00:11:19.000 Why are they releasing the files now like this?

00:11:21.000 Don't you guys think it's weird that every Republican and Democrat, except for one, but almost all of them agreed to release this?

00:11:29.000 That seems strange.

00:11:30.000 I don't buy it.

00:11:32.000 They'd only release a rigged one where all of the House, everybody in Congress supported it.

00:11:36.000 This would have to be the scrubbed down version.

00:11:38.000 We have to go with the no matter what they do, it's always the wrong thing angle of the conspiracy.

00:11:45.000 Everything they do is evidence of the conspiracy.

00:11:48.000 So in this regard, the conspiracy theory is, or the evidence is, all of them agreeing to release it is too perfect.

00:11:56.000 And if it's too good to be true, it usually is.

00:11:59.000 That says to me, they're all in on it and they're planning on releasing fake files.

00:11:59.000 Totally.

00:12:03.000 This proves it.

00:12:05.000 Actually, I'll be completely real because it is a little conspiratorial.

00:12:09.000 I actually don't completely disagree with that.

00:12:11.000 The fact that Democrats and Republicans are all like, yeah, we're all on board with this, says politicking nonsense.

00:12:17.000 They're not going to give us real information.

00:12:19.000 The government is not going to release proof or details.

00:12:24.000 It seems like if I had to make a bet, the DOJ, Democrats, Republicans, or otherwise, have, going back years, long destroyed any of the more significant documents.

00:12:36.000 And now they're going to release stuff that makes Epstein look bad, but won't give you the names of any of his accomplices or associates or other Intel assets.

00:12:44.000 I think the emails are like one of the most bizarre parts because it's like, first of all, you have congressmen just emailing him about recipes and stuff.

00:12:53.000 It's the most bizarre stuff.

00:12:54.000 And then also, people will install three VPNs and have 20 different passwords to use a burner Twitter.

00:13:02.000 Meanwhile, Epstein is just emailing, hey, you want to go hang out with some kids later?

00:13:06.000 Best, Jeff.

00:13:07.000 And it's like out in the open.

00:13:08.000 I'm like, this guy was so shameless with everything.

00:13:11.000 That's what I was reading through the emails.

00:13:12.000 That's what was the most shocking thing to me.

00:13:15.000 The interesting thing I find is not the actual release of the files.

00:13:19.000 Because I do think I agree with you a lot that the people that believe that nefarious things are going on about the release are going to believe that this is not a complete list.

00:13:31.000 They're going to say, well, there's only some parts that have been released.

00:13:35.000 It's not the full list.

00:13:37.000 And people are going to take it as confirmation bias the same way they did with the release of the JFK files.

00:13:41.000 People that are like, oh, people found in the JFK files what they were looking for, regardless of whether it was there or not.

00:13:49.000 And I think this is going to be another situation like that.

00:13:53.000 But Shane was talking last night about Epstein's contacts with other foreign entities and people that he's been involved with.

00:14:00.000 I think that that's the more interesting part of it because that kind of stuff speaks to the corruption that was involved as opposed to what is largely known, the stuff that he was in jail for trafficking already.

00:14:15.000 That was my point.

00:14:16.000 The emails too is like that just alludes to the level of sloppiness that could explain why some of the timeline here is just like weird.

00:14:23.000 It's like, yeah, you can attribute a lot of this to just carelessness, sloppiness, cockiness, a lot of these different things.

00:14:28.000 So, I mean, I think since there's consensus here that this is widely regarded as an attempt by Democrats and others to derail the Trump agenda, it really begs the question why Rhino Congressman Thomas Massey introduced this bill to the Congress in the first place for any other reason but to try to derail the Trump agenda.

00:14:47.000 And I mean, Tim, that's your favorite congressman who introduced this bill.

00:14:51.000 Yeah.

00:14:52.000 He's Massey.

00:14:53.000 He's a good congressman.

00:14:54.000 He's great.

00:14:55.000 And Rokana.

00:14:56.000 But this bill is a distraction from the Trump agenda.

00:15:00.000 This bill, I give you a little bit for sure.

00:15:03.000 I think the issue is that Democrats were the ones who initiated this.

00:15:06.000 And Massey's like, okay, release them.

00:15:08.000 No, no, no.

00:15:09.000 He introduced it.

00:15:10.000 He co-sponsored the introduction with Rokano.

00:15:13.000 Democrats decided that Donald Trump was implicated in Epstein and started putting up billboards of Trump and Epstein as friends.

00:15:20.000 And this ignited the Trump-Epstein saga, even though this was happening under the Biden administration and the first Trump administration.

00:15:27.000 It seemed largely that Democrats didn't have a play politically.

00:15:30.000 I can't tell you what they're campaigning on as a party.

00:15:33.000 And so then, of course, Massey's like, I'm going to introduce this bill.

00:15:36.000 RoConna said, I'm going to introduce a bill.

00:15:39.000 And then we got to this point where it's like, I don't know if there's, I would say half, half a distraction because I don't know what's going on anyway, to be completely honest.

00:15:51.000 I don't know what Trump is currently working on, right?

00:15:55.000 Giving H-1Bs and Chinese visas without explaining what he's doing for the American people.

00:15:58.000 I respect the tariff fight.

00:15:59.000 He might lose this one in Supreme Court.

00:16:01.000 The dividends, these are good.

00:16:02.000 It's a good play.

00:16:03.000 I'm a fan of this.

00:16:04.000 This is Congress's board.

00:16:07.000 Republicans clearly are like, yeah, Trump's not threatened by this, and we're over the story.

00:16:11.000 So, first, it was the, like, there's roughly a handful of Republicans who were pushing, um, who were allying with the Democrats to allow this to advance.

00:16:11.000 Sure, it was.

00:16:19.000 It was Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massey, and they're in their.

00:16:22.000 The Republicans didn't want it, and they were like, you know, even Speaker Johnson.

00:16:25.000 And then when it became inevitable because of Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green and a couple of other Republicans, is why Trump had to tell all these other Republicans to flip.

00:16:33.000 So what do you think about those handful of Republicans?

00:16:35.000 I would push back on the idea that it's inevitable when there's only a handful of Republicans when they're dealing with a body that's 435 members.

00:16:42.000 If it was something that was inevitable, it would have had popular support in the beginning.

00:16:47.000 It was inevitable because they just had a special election in Arizona, which gave them 218 votes, including Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey.

00:16:56.000 I don't know if it's also had Anna Paulina Luna, but it required those Republicans or they weren't going to be able to advance this.

00:17:02.000 Do you have any?

00:17:03.000 I know you used to work on the Hill a bit.

00:17:05.000 What do you think about this inside politics?

00:17:07.000 Am I crazy here about how Massey introduced this?

00:17:10.000 And, you know, there was a handful of Republicans necessary to advance this legislation, essentially derailing in attempts to derail the Trump agenda, in my estimation.

00:17:19.000 And I mean, that's why the president also has unendorsed Marjorie Trader Green, who he's calling her now, and an opponent to Thomas Massey.

00:17:26.000 Yeah, I mean, from like, if you want to talk procedure and stuff, which is totally boring, I mean, it was inevitable through the sense that once they had a discharge position, it was petitioned and the numbers that they needed to get that out the door in the House, like it was going to come to the floor and be debated, right?

00:17:41.000 And it was going to have to be voted on.

00:17:42.000 And if you're a Republican or a Democrat, and, you know, when Jeffrey Epstein died, that was a national news story.

00:17:49.000 Like, every American was like, who is this guy?

00:17:52.000 Who is he connected to?

00:17:53.000 What are you talking about?

00:17:54.000 He was trafficking young girls, and all of these wealthy billionaires and businessmen were going to his island. 0.98

00:17:58.000 Like, who is this sicko dude? 0.83

00:18:00.000 And why is he connected to like all of these important people around the world?

00:18:03.000 So, like, from a trickle-down effect, I agree with Tim that, like, yeah, the Biden administration had these files for the last four years.

00:18:03.000 Right.

00:18:11.000 If Trump was like complicit in any of this stuff in a really damning way, then, you know, they probably would have released this stuff on their own, right?

00:18:19.000 To really damage him and our coalition.

00:18:20.000 So I think, you know, it's probably been scrubbed of meaningful things.

00:18:24.000 But I think there was a period of time in which the American people were like very fired up about this issue.

00:18:29.000 So from like a political standpoint, like House, Senate politics, like, yeah, once the discharge petition numbers were there, like it was going to come up.

00:18:36.000 And I didn't.

00:18:37.000 How should we feel about those Republicans who are willing to ally with Democrats to advance this legislation that I think is trying to derail the point about it being derailing?

00:18:46.000 If this actually does pass and it comes out and it puts it to bed, doesn't it actually allow the MAGA agenda to move forward?

00:18:54.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:18:55.000 I don't think it'll put it to bed.

00:18:56.000 Again, because of the things that we said.

00:18:58.000 No, people will not be satisfied with what is in here.

00:19:00.000 Well, also, yeah, like part of the legislation is Bondi Camerdak things if it's threatening a current investigation, et cetera, et cetera.

00:19:06.000 So she's going to have to do that.

00:19:08.000 There's going to be something in there.

00:19:09.000 Obviously, that's going to be.

00:19:10.000 It specifies for national security.

00:19:11.000 Precisely.

00:19:12.000 And that's going to just add fuel to the fire.

00:19:14.000 It's going to give more oxygen to this.

00:19:16.000 I mean, even it's very valid, but in a lot of ways, people are using it.

00:19:19.000 They're weaponizing it.

00:19:19.000 So it's going to become a sideshow.

00:19:21.000 But the people that are going to say that this is, you know, like we said, the people that are going to say that this is not complete or any redactions mean, et cetera, they're going to say that anyways.

00:19:31.000 Like, that's like being worried about the Democrats are going to call you names or say that you're a racist because you talk about immigration.

00:19:38.000 That's going to happen.

00:19:39.000 There's no way that there's no world where they don't use this as a political tool.

00:19:44.000 So the best option, as far as I can see, is to put as much information out as possible and say, look, we've put it all out.

00:19:52.000 And so now we need to move on.

00:19:54.000 If they're not going to move on, they're not going to move on whether or not this information goes.

00:19:58.000 Yeah, it's going to be a sideshow regarding it.

00:20:00.000 I think nobody cares, to be honest.

00:20:01.000 I think obviously the people watching this care because they're concerned about the goings-on.

00:20:05.000 But I'd be willing to bet that if we decided to change the thumbnail of the show and the title to actually, let me do a quick search real quick.

00:20:15.000 Today's title will be Cloudflare.

00:20:18.000 If we, to be fair, I mean, that was a big story and we will talk about it.

00:20:21.000 But I think this is actually much more interesting to people.

00:20:24.000 To be completely honest, if we did USA versus Uruguay, that's how you pronounce Yorugwe, by the way.

00:20:29.000 Everyone says Yorugwe Uruai.

00:20:31.000 Then I think we'd get, or how about Warriors versus Magic?

00:20:34.000 All of these have substantially more search volume.

00:20:37.000 The reality is we are politicals.

00:20:39.000 We care about politics.

00:20:40.000 We care about these issues.

00:20:41.000 But I think the average person is tuning out because the political space has largely become, you know what it is?

00:20:46.000 It's fatigue.

00:20:48.000 And the fatigue is not that people don't care about the goings-on of the world so much, but that many people are basically saying, I've heard this 800 times already.

00:20:57.000 I don't care.

00:20:58.000 Give me something new.

00:20:59.000 And they're going to release nothing because nothing ever happens.

00:21:02.000 We get it.

00:21:03.000 And we're going to be bored by it.

00:21:05.000 So welcome to current politics right now in November.

00:21:07.000 It's really devolving into drama and BS.

00:21:11.000 And Ryan, you'd know nothing about that, right?

00:21:13.000 No, of course not.

00:21:14.000 Yeah.

00:21:14.000 What are you talking about?

00:21:15.000 Yeah.

00:21:16.000 No, I know all about that.

00:21:18.000 But to Tim's point, I think the other thing that really causes fatigue is these things come out and then nothing happens.

00:21:26.000 Like there's no accountability.

00:21:27.000 You have Benghazi, you have burisma, you have COVID, right? 1.00

00:21:30.000 Like there's all of these events that we've demanded oversight for and nothing occurs.

00:21:36.000 I mean, you've got the Biden Auto Pen scandal going on right now.

00:21:39.000 And who's going to be held accountable for that?

00:21:40.000 Is anyone?

00:21:41.000 And what does that even look like?

00:21:41.000 Right.

00:21:43.000 So I think that's- Oh, it looks like it looks like actually, I'm sorry, Cloudflare's trending traffic has declined considering we're back on the internet.

00:21:52.000 But Google anti-gravity is on the rise as a trend.

00:21:57.000 And more people care about whatever that is.

00:21:59.000 And I would say that I'm actually really curious.

00:22:01.000 And if you've never heard of the NBA, Warriors versus Magic sounds really whimsical and exciting.

00:22:07.000 Warriors, man.

00:22:08.000 Versus Magic.

00:22:09.000 Sounds like Dungeons and Dragons.

00:22:10.000 Yeah, that's sick.

00:22:11.000 Oh, what's basketball?

00:22:12.000 What's going on?

00:22:13.000 Like, what is this?

00:22:14.000 To your point, Ryan, though, like if that's the case, right?

00:22:18.000 People don't actually, like, the large portion of the American population doesn't really care.

00:22:23.000 I think that the administration should start focusing on doing whatever it can do to benefit the lives of the everyday American who is having problems, paying their bills, who is having problems, making ends meet, because that's what's going to matter in a year when people are going to the midterms.

00:22:43.000 I just wanted to get this in really quick for the record for the Republican congresspeople who forced the vote on these Epstein files before the president asked all Republicans to vote for it.

00:22:53.000 It was spearheaded by Thomas Massey, and then we have Nancy Mace, Lauren Bobert, Marjorie Taylor, and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:23:01.000 So, well, these are people also that they're much more aware.

00:23:05.000 They're much more accountable to like online coalition.

00:23:08.000 Like their coalition is built off a lot of online things.

00:23:10.000 That's where a lot of their oxygen comes from.

00:23:13.000 So they're going to be more reactive to things that people that are tuning into a lot of these types of shows are.

00:23:17.000 And that's just the reality.

00:23:18.000 I want to talk about what the people care about.

00:23:19.000 So we're jumping to the next story.

00:23:21.000 And that is from the Daily Beast.

00:23:23.000 White House tries to defend Trump's piggy insult.

00:23:26.000 Tries to defend?

00:23:28.000 I could defend that.

00:23:28.000 I just want to know who he called Piggy.

00:23:30.000 All right, you guys ready for this?

00:23:31.000 You ready for this?

00:23:43.000 Why is this news?

00:23:45.000 You know, I got to tell you, I wake up and I turn on, you know, I come in and I go on.

00:23:49.000 Everyone's like, the internet is down.

00:23:50.000 And Tate was basically, he was in the fetal position on the ground crying, being like, without Max, without X, I'm nothing.

00:23:56.000 And I said, you're right.

00:23:57.000 Anyway, when the internet finally comes back, this is the story.

00:24:00.000 Everyone's like, Trump called a reporter piggy.

00:24:03.000 I guess now they're saying he's calling her Peggy.

00:24:05.000 He said, quiet, Peggy.

00:24:06.000 He was saying Peggy, not Piggy, Peh.

00:24:09.000 I want to believe that he said Piggy because that's the Donald Trump that I love. 0.98

00:24:14.000 And it's also a weird thing to call some random journalist unless she's like a little fat woman. 0.99

00:24:18.000 Right. 0.96

00:24:18.000 A gordita. 0.96

00:24:19.000 She's a little on the porky side, yeah. 1.00

00:24:21.000 I think that means little fat woman, right? 0.98

00:24:24.000 In Spanish, little areas. 0.93

00:24:25.000 Yeah, I got it.

00:24:26.000 Gordita.

00:24:27.000 But I mean, like, that's the, that's the thing that people love about Donald Trump: the, the fact that he'll take it to the media, that he'll call him names, he'll, he'll do the Donald Trump thing and, you know, insult the media who constantly insults him.

00:24:42.000 And like, that to me is just red meat to the base.

00:24:44.000 The American people don't like political correctness.

00:24:46.000 No.

00:24:47.000 They say this is Lucy was asking him if there's nothing incriminating in the file, sir, why not?

00:24:47.000 Here's the report.

00:24:53.000 And he says, before it says, before she could finish, however, Trump pointed his finger at her and barked, quiet, quiet, piggy. 0.99

00:25:01.000 The remark was roundly blasted as disgusting. 1.00

00:25:04.000 Oh, shut up. 1.00

00:25:05.000 I don't care. 1.00

00:25:07.000 You know what I think this is?

00:25:08.000 Liberalism is female-coded and conservatism is male-coded. 0.98

00:25:12.000 It's disgusting to call a journalist piggy, but it's perfectly acceptable to call the president of the United States a Nazi. 0.97

00:25:20.000 Yeah, come on. 0.99

00:25:21.000 BS.

00:25:22.000 I don't, I like, it is far more offensive to imply that Donald Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler than it is to call a journalist piggy. 0.87

00:25:31.000 The woman is actually fairly gaunt. 1.00

00:25:33.000 You know, I'm more disappointed that Trump called a thin woman a piggy. 0.97

00:25:36.000 Maybe she was like, I want to believe it was like this fat woman sitting there being like, Mr. President. 1.00

00:25:40.000 He's like, you're fat. 0.99

00:25:41.000 And I'm just sitting there laughing, but instead, he just called some thin blonde woman piggy. 0.99

00:25:46.000 Did she?

00:25:47.000 It's funny either way.

00:25:49.000 I think it's potentially like pickup tactic.

00:25:52.000 No, no, piggy. 0.88

00:25:54.000 It's called a neggy. 1.00

00:25:55.000 Yeah, negging.

00:25:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:57.000 And then you deploy that, you combo at the Bill Ackman, like, may I meet you?

00:26:01.000 And just laugh.

00:26:02.000 Yeah, I meet you, piggy.

00:26:03.000 Iri is so sick.

00:26:05.000 It's like W Riz. 1.00

00:26:06.000 And then she leaves being like, I am a big fan of Donald Trump.

00:26:10.000 Yep.

00:26:11.000 And that's how Trump does it.

00:26:12.000 It's the Riz. 0.99

00:26:13.000 Is that what you said, Trump?

00:26:14.000 It's W Riz. 0.99

00:26:15.000 Trump's Riz.

00:26:15.000 The women, the women just can't handle it.

00:26:18.000 The Huzz can't resist. 0.99

00:26:20.000 In this case, the Puzz, Piggy Huz. 0.93

00:26:22.000 Quiet Piggy.

00:26:23.000 Yeah.

00:26:23.000 Scolds.

00:26:24.000 If you go to the top of the article, they say Trump 79, like he's like a random guy.

00:26:30.000 Like, what are we doing here?

00:26:32.000 I don't know.

00:26:33.000 It's an old guy, and it's fine.

00:26:35.000 Also, look at the picture.

00:26:36.000 Keen's man calls woman piggy. 1.00

00:26:38.000 Look at the picture that they chose to use of Trump.

00:26:40.000 Dude, he's saluting a horse.

00:26:42.000 He's loyal to horses. 1.00

00:26:43.000 Pigs, disgusting. 0.99

00:26:44.000 Farm animals, horses, patriotic, aristocratic. 0.99

00:26:46.000 I'm sure he's saluting the people who are on the horse, but that is what they're trying to make it look like.

00:26:50.000 The question I have is: why, guys, I don't need to ask the question.

00:26:56.000 The reason this is news is because everybody is bored and there's nothing to talk about.

00:26:59.000 That's true.

00:27:00.000 I think that's right.

00:27:01.000 Let's make up some news.

00:27:02.000 Two countries.

00:27:03.000 Let's do this.

00:27:03.000 Trump did a backflip and landed in a superhero pose in the Rose Garden.

00:27:07.000 Pull up, Sora.

00:27:08.000 I mean, actually, is the Rose Garden still a Sora?

00:27:10.000 Sora.

00:27:11.000 Oh, actually, I'll do that.

00:27:13.000 Like two random countries.

00:27:14.000 Let's just like make up.

00:27:15.000 Dude, Naru declared war on Madagascar, dude.

00:27:18.000 We can always talk about Venezuela.

00:27:18.000 It's over.

00:27:19.000 On Wakanda, bro.

00:27:20.000 That's true.

00:27:21.000 That's what these like these bricks people do.

00:27:24.000 They're like, the Marshall Islands just signed a trade deal with Bangladesh.

00:27:27.000 It's so over for the West.

00:27:29.000 We could just start doing that kind of stuff.

00:27:30.000 That'd be fun.

00:27:32.000 You know what I like?

00:27:33.000 We can do the content where you basically just find something that you find a vagary and then just act like it's weird.

00:27:42.000 This is what I, you know, actually, there's a lot we can talk about in this regard because people are sending me all these videos about Turning Point USA related to finances and all the conspiracy theories, and I've largely not talked about a lot of them.

00:27:53.000 Not to get into specifics on that, but what I find with a lot of these conspiracy videos is it'll be like something like a Lod will show up to do the show.

00:28:03.000 Like, I'm just giving a hypothetical.

00:28:04.000 And then, like, in the middle of the show, he'll be like, hold on a second.

00:28:08.000 Sorry, guys, I'll bear it back.

00:28:09.000 And that's it.

00:28:10.000 And it's like, maybe he's got the Hershey Squirts, who knows?

00:28:12.000 But then people, what you do is for the conspiracy show, be like, isn't it weird that a lot ran out from the show?

00:28:18.000 Yeah.

00:28:19.000 What's he doing?

00:28:20.000 Why won't he show us what this call was?

00:28:22.000 Show us the co-logs, E-Lad.

00:28:24.000 Who were you talking to?

00:28:25.000 It was Israel.

00:28:26.000 Oh, my God.

00:28:27.000 In reality, it actually was Israel.

00:28:30.000 A lot is on the phone with him quite a bit.

00:28:32.000 So I'm just, you know, give me a hypothetical.

00:28:33.000 The whole country.

00:28:34.000 This is how you entertain.

00:28:36.000 You got to find something like, there's like a Coke can on the ground all mashed up, and you're like, isn't that strange?

00:28:41.000 Why is there a Coke can on that?

00:28:42.000 I'm not sure if I can do it.

00:28:44.000 I kill a lot.

00:28:45.000 That was sick on the show last night. 0.82

00:28:46.000 Dude, I think you won support back.

00:28:48.000 Like, great work.

00:28:49.000 We're going back into Gaza. 0.96

00:28:51.000 Thanks, dude.

00:28:52.000 Like, are you not entertained?

00:28:54.000 Dude, I wish I had that kind of power.

00:28:56.000 Like, I pull no strings here.

00:28:57.000 It's like, dude, a lot of zero poll.

00:28:59.000 Look at that poll.

00:28:59.000 Look at this.

00:29:00.000 Can I show you how funny this is?

00:29:02.000 If you search for the word piggy, Lord have mercy, the guardian.

00:29:07.000 Here's him pointing his finger in the face.

00:29:09.000 Trump faces criticism for referring to female Bloomberg reporter as piggy. 0.60

00:29:13.000 Trump, who just called a female reporter piggy, rages at ABC News journalist. 0.72

00:29:17.000 Trump told him in quiet piggy.

00:29:21.000 Was there a memo?

00:29:22.000 You know what's funny when they say they got the call?

00:29:24.000 The journalists got the call.

00:29:25.000 Oh, totally.

00:29:25.000 They did.

00:29:26.000 Like Soros called him up and said, I guess Trump called a piggy.

00:29:29.000 So everyone get mad and they're like, you got a bus.

00:29:30.000 And then they all go to their media. 0.97

00:29:32.000 I'm kidding about Soros calling them, but some of these journalists are going to write that anyway because they're nuts. 0.68

00:29:36.000 He sends emails. 0.68

00:29:37.000 He sends emails.

00:29:39.000 Is he still around?

00:29:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:40.000 His son's doing it.

00:29:41.000 Actually, he tells Alex to go ahead and.

00:29:43.000 Okay, wait, what is this?

00:29:45.000 They're also saying Trump, who just called a female reporter Piggy, rages at ABC News journalists for being too mean to him.

00:29:51.000 Don't be mean to him.

00:29:51.000 So true.

00:29:52.000 Okay.

00:29:53.000 After 10 years of them being mean.

00:29:55.000 I know, it's unacceptable.

00:29:56.000 It's not the question that I mind.

00:29:57.000 It's your attitude. 0.98

00:29:59.000 You're a terrible reporter.

00:30:02.000 It's the way you ask these questions. 0.93

00:30:04.000 You start off with a man who's highly respected, asking him a horrible, insubordinate and just a terrible question.

00:30:12.000 Insubordinate?

00:30:13.000 And you could even ask that same exact question nicely.

00:30:17.000 You're all psyched.

00:30:18.000 Somebody psyches you over at ABC.

00:30:20.000 They're going to psych. 1.00

00:30:24.000 You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter. 1.00

00:30:27.000 As far as the Epstein files. 0.99

00:30:29.000 He's so good at it.

00:30:30.000 I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. 0.98

00:30:32.000 I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert. 0.96

00:30:37.000 And I guess I turned out to be right. 0.99

00:30:37.000 Strong. 0.99

00:30:39.000 But you know who does have?

00:30:40.000 Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, every single weekend.

00:30:47.000 They lived together.

00:30:48.000 They went to his island many times I never did.

00:30:53.000 Andrew Weissman, I hear.

00:30:55.000 All these guys were friends of his.

00:30:56.000 You don't even talk about those people.

00:30:59.000 You just keep going on the Epstein files.

00:31:01.000 And what the Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion that I talked about today.

00:31:09.000 Hey, here, here.

00:31:10.000 It's a hoax.

00:31:11.000 Now, I just got a little report and I put it in my pocket.

00:31:15.000 Of all the money that he's given to Democrats, he gave me none.

00:31:20.000 Zero, no money to me.

00:31:22.000 But he gave money to Democrats.

00:31:24.000 And people are wise to your hoax. 0.98

00:31:26.000 And ABC is your company, your crappy company, is one of the perpetrators. 0.96

00:31:31.000 And I'll tell you something. 0.97

00:31:32.000 I'll tell you something.

00:31:34.000 I think the license should be taken away from ABC.

00:31:38.000 That's true.

00:31:39.000 Because your news is so fake and it's so wrong.

00:31:42.000 And we have a great commissioner, the chairman, who should look at that.

00:31:46.000 Because I think when you come in and when you're 97% negative to Trump and then Trump wins the election in a landslide, that means obviously your news is not credible and you're not credible as a reporter.

00:31:59.000 So I've answered your question.

00:32:01.000 You should go and look at the Democrats who received money from Epstein, who spent their time.

00:32:07.000 Larry Summers was with him all the time.

00:32:11.000 That creep of the fund guy was with him all the time.

00:32:16.000 What's his name?

00:32:18.000 Reed Hoffman.

00:32:19.000 I don't know Reid Hoffman, but I know he spends a lot of money on the radical left.

00:32:23.000 Reid Hoffman, in my opinion, should be under investigation.

00:32:27.000 He's a sleazebag.

00:32:29.000 And those are the people, but they don't get any press.

00:32:32.000 They don't get any news.

00:32:33.000 And you're not after the radical left because you're a radical left network.

00:32:37.000 But I think the way you ask the question with the anger and the meanness is terrible.

00:32:42.000 You ought to go back and learn how to be a reporter.

00:32:44.000 No more questions from you.

00:32:47.000 No soup for you.

00:32:48.000 I love that.

00:32:49.000 Just mid-rat, he like collects the sauce. 0.95

00:32:51.000 He's like, you're just a terrible person. 0.77

00:32:52.000 I love that.

00:32:53.000 So I'm not going to lie, my biggest fear as a White House correspondent is asking a question to the president, having him say, what outlet are you with?

00:32:53.000 I love that.

00:33:00.000 And then calling me fake news and saying, I should be out of here. 0.79

00:33:03.000 Dude, I'm with Tim Cast and be like, I don't like that weasel mother. 1.00

00:33:07.000 Are you kidding?

00:33:08.000 You'd be flattered if he said that.

00:33:09.000 He'd say, I've never heard of that.

00:33:11.000 Go work for a real company.

00:33:13.000 That's what he said to a couple of other outlets.

00:33:15.000 Oh, really?

00:33:16.000 But what you got to do, Eli, my advice to you, you have to say, Mr. President, two questions.

00:33:22.000 Actually, a statement and a question.

00:33:24.000 I love you.

00:33:24.000 You're brilliant.

00:33:25.000 Your hair is fantastic.

00:33:27.000 About the tariffs.

00:33:28.000 Do you think you're going to make it to the Supreme Court?

00:33:30.000 He loves it when the reporters glaze him, but I refuse to.

00:33:33.000 And he'll make a mockery of it, too, when a reporter will ask a soup.

00:33:36.000 There are journalists in the White House course, but like, who got put in the pool?

00:33:40.000 Who asked questions like that?

00:33:41.000 And he'll say, look how wonderful this person is.

00:33:43.000 This is my favorite reporter.

00:33:44.000 And it's a little bit too on the nose for me.

00:33:46.000 And I think he doesn't respect it either.

00:33:47.000 Dude, if he ever gets really mad at you and then he's like, what organization do you with?

00:33:51.000 You're just like, ABC.

00:33:54.000 We'll give you a license.

00:33:55.000 We're sorry.

00:33:56.000 Or you just got to be like, Mr. President, question.

00:33:59.000 As the greatest president of my lifetime, how do you feel the Supreme Court potentially striking down your tariffs?

00:34:04.000 Tim, just whatever the question is, add with, as the greatest president of my generation.

00:34:08.000 No, no, no.

00:34:10.000 Mr. President, as the most pro-Israel president that has ever existed, why do you support Israel and the Jewish people so much in a time of rampant anti-Semitism?

00:34:10.000 You guys are doing it wrong.

00:34:20.000 Why are you standing up for the Jewish people so fervently?

00:34:24.000 Why are you so brave and so masculine to stand up when it's such a call me Peggy?

00:34:33.000 I'm kind of into that.

00:34:34.000 Mr. President, as the most handsome president of my generation, do you have concerns over your staunch support of Israel being taken by anti-Semites and used against you in the midterms?

00:34:45.000 Also, you look fantastic.

00:34:48.000 I desperately need you, if you get a question, say President Trump, gay son or thought daughter. 0.95

00:34:52.000 Because the country wants to know. 0.96

00:34:54.000 The country wants to know where he lines up on that. 0.99

00:34:57.000 People talked a lot of shit to me when I asked, what is a woman? 1.00

00:34:59.000 That was one of my first questions. 1.00

00:35:00.000 I was trying to start off easy with that.

00:35:02.000 He loved it.

00:35:02.000 That was great, though.

00:35:03.000 And then a lot of reporters were like, oh, you get an opportunity to ask the president a question.

00:35:06.000 Like, that's what you waste your question on.

00:35:08.000 And he said, someone who's much smarter than me.

00:35:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:11.000 See, that's like a 50s answer.

00:35:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:35:13.000 Like men pretending that women were smarter than them. 0.99

00:35:18.000 You know, make believe.

00:35:20.000 Yeah, it's hard to feel bad for any of these journalists because they're actually in a hyper privileged position to be in any of those locations to begin with.

00:35:29.000 I desperately wanted to be in the pool when Muhammad bin Salman was here earlier today.

00:35:33.000 They had the opportunity to go in there and ask questions to them.

00:35:36.000 If you're ever on Air Force One, you have to have a lot of money to be able to pay to be on there.

00:35:40.000 It costs money to be on there, and that's a barrier to entry.

00:35:43.000 But then for them to give you that access and then let you to be on there, you know, to be able to ask the president questions, you're in a position of power.

00:35:50.000 All these people are hyper-privileged and lucky to be there.

00:35:52.000 Beyond that, I saw it was like Rebecca the Blaze reporter.

00:35:55.000 She got like free McDonald's.

00:35:56.000 What?

00:35:57.000 From Trump?

00:35:57.000 Yeah.

00:35:58.000 Yeah.

00:35:59.000 I'm like, what's going on?

00:36:00.000 It's like, I want to hang out.

00:36:01.000 He only does that for young, beautiful women. 1.00

00:36:03.000 I haven't gotten free McDonald's.

00:36:04.000 They might think I keep you.

00:36:05.000 You got to glaze a little more.

00:36:06.000 No, I can't glaze outright.

00:36:06.000 That's what it is.

00:36:08.000 You should bring McDonald's to him.

00:36:11.000 I don't have reverse sit on.

00:36:12.000 I was thinking of Trump.

00:36:13.000 the wranglers though with flowers or something you know you should do is caroline levitt i could get her to something No, no, when you go to the Oval Office next time and like Trump's going to be there, bring two Big Macs and literally be eating one as you ask your question.

00:36:25.000 I actually brought one for you, Mr. President.

00:36:27.000 My question for you is: he's going to be like, oh, thank you.

00:36:29.000 I love these things.

00:36:31.000 You saw he did that McDonald's summit, and he said, like, I've been a great customer or something like that for a long time.

00:36:36.000 He was like, I'm the first fry cook to be president.

00:36:38.000 That's right.

00:36:39.000 The first fry cook who later went on to become president.

00:36:42.000 Let's jump to this story.

00:36:42.000 So true.

00:36:44.000 This is a weird story.

00:36:47.000 Protests in Dearborn.

00:36:48.000 Anti-Islam activists clash with Muslim residents.

00:36:52.000 Well, my understanding is they're Christians that are clashing. 0.92

00:36:56.000 And we have this video from Nick Shirley.

00:36:57.000 I think this is the right video, right?

00:36:59.000 He says, happening now, Christian and Islamic protesters are clashing in Dearborn.

00:37:03.000 Qurans have been hit with bacon and burning attempts of the Quran have happened.

00:37:08.000 This could get ugly. 0.82

00:37:09.000 Speaking of piggy.

00:37:10.000 Right now, here in Dearborn, Michigan, you have a group of Christian protesters who have came out here to Dearborn as it is the number one city for Islam here in the United States, as it is one of the only towns here in the United States where the majority of the population belong to the religion of Islam.

00:37:26.000 Some people have been attacked.

00:37:27.000 One man attempted to burn the Quran as he beat the Quran with bacon.

00:37:32.000 The blues have now shown up.

00:37:34.000 Counter protesters are over here.

00:37:36.000 You have Palestinian protesters, Islamic protesters, and it has gotten wild here. 0.98

00:37:42.000 People have been pepper sprayed.

00:37:43.000 Cam Higby was pepper sprayed.

00:37:45.000 And you're also seeing takeovers as well as to have blocked off all of the road.

00:37:50.000 And now traffic is coming through.

00:37:52.000 And we're got, yes, sir, I got you.

00:37:54.000 And right now you have a bunch of people, and it's only about 3:30 right now.

00:38:00.000 It could get wild here in Dearborn, Michigan.

00:38:03.000 We'll see what happens.

00:38:04.000 Who would have thought that the Crusades in 2025 were going to be in the United States taking back Dearborn, Michigan?

00:38:10.000 Yeah, three.

00:38:12.000 You know what this reminds me?

00:38:13.000 I want to show off this far side comic to the Davos group and the World Economic Forum so they can understand Dearborn, Michigan. 0.52

00:38:21.000 It's a comic from the far side where there's two aliens, and one says, Zorak, you idiot, you've mixed incompatible species in the Earth Terrarium, and it's an earth terrarium with a grizzly bear eating a hunter.

00:38:32.000 And my point is, when I see Christians and Muslims fighting each other in Dearborn, this multicultural democracy idea they have where they're like, multiculturalism is great until you put two religions next to each other that oppose each other and they start fighting. 0.98

00:38:46.000 And we don't want that to happen.

00:38:49.000 We are not.

00:38:51.000 You're not going to have an ideology that doesn't like the other ideology, stand at each other, smile, and work together.

00:38:57.000 And that's the problem of polarization in this country is because the more entrenched the ideology gets, the more likely you're going to get towards the higher the chance of getting towards violence.

00:39:05.000 Well, what they've done in this country is they've created enclaves of various groups like Somalis in Minnesota, Minneapolis, and now Islam in Muslims in Dearborn. 0.90

00:39:15.000 And in these surrounding areas, you're going to have American Christians and you're going to have a growing influence of Islam.

00:39:20.000 And there's going to be a clash of ideas because there's going to be people in the American traditionalist side being like, hey, what you're doing to those little girls is not good.

00:39:29.000 Not saying like literally every Muslim is going to do that, but there's practices in Islam that Americans will not tolerate or even illegal that are happening there in Dearborn. 0.96

00:39:37.000 This idea of mixing all these cultures in terms of like putting them next to each other does not work. 0.96

00:39:42.000 You will get people to fight.

00:39:44.000 Yeah.

00:39:44.000 Well, I mean, like the Democrats, you expect them to support this, obviously, because they subscribe to the blank slate theory, these sorts of things.

00:39:51.000 But even the Republicans are completely to blame for this because for the longest time, the dialogue, even Republicans are endorsing mass migration.

00:39:58.000 They're like, well, we'll just give them like a pocketbook constitution and they'll become as American as anybody else.

00:40:02.000 And this is every single time you see a story like this where you've imported some sort of old world conflict into America.

00:40:09.000 It's just a reminder that like, no, there actually is something intrinsic to being an American.

00:40:13.000 It's a little bit deeper than just like general vague subscription to like liberty and freedom.

00:40:19.000 It's like, yeah, most people are like on board with that.

00:40:21.000 There's a little more to it.

00:40:22.000 We got to dig a little more.

00:40:23.000 That's like, that's why the last question Charlie Kirk really posed to the movement is what is an American?

00:40:28.000 Because as our borders have been open for so long, they're going to see more and more of this.

00:40:32.000 And that question is going to cry out for an answer more and more and more.

00:40:35.000 Totally.

00:40:36.000 And I think there's a huge problem in America with assimilation right now.

00:40:39.000 Like, what are people assimilating to?

00:40:42.000 It's that question of what does it mean to be an American actually provides an answer that they're not assimilating to our traditions.

00:40:48.000 I just foundations.

00:40:50.000 I just watched a podcast with Nick Friedas and Arn McIntyre.

00:40:54.000 And Arn had a great, great thought about this.

00:40:58.000 The idea that you can just come to the United States and we have magic dirt.

00:41:02.000 You're going to automatically become a Jeffersonian democracy lover.

00:41:09.000 This was, and I've said this before, this was solidly, this idea was solidly proven wrong when the United States invaded Iraq.

00:41:18.000 You threw dirt on people and nothing happened.

00:41:20.000 Yeah, I mean, they didn't, you know, you brought them democracy, and what did you get?

00:41:25.000 Not a Jeffersonian democracy.

00:41:27.000 I just need to pause right there and say, we tried that with Liberia along.

00:41:31.000 We did.

00:41:32.000 We did.

00:41:32.000 This is the Liberia.

00:41:35.000 The Liberian Constitution almost completely is a mirror image of ours.

00:41:41.000 It's almost the exact same thing.

00:41:42.000 And it didn't turn into the United States.

00:41:45.000 So that doesn't make sense.

00:41:45.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:46.000 How's that possible?

00:41:47.000 Well, you know, it takes a certain kind of people that are looking for the type of government that we have.

00:41:56.000 And it's like you've said before, the Constitution, it doesn't make people love the Constitution, right?

00:42:02.000 If your Constitution is in the people and they believe in the Constitution, if you have a population that doesn't believe in things like property rights, no written Constitution is ever going to make them believe in property rights.

00:42:17.000 I mean, it doesn't work because America is not an idea.

00:42:19.000 It's a nation.

00:42:20.000 It's a people with a shared heritage that recognize and understand that their rights don't just come from parchment, right?

00:42:27.000 It's not just the Constitution.

00:42:28.000 It's from God.

00:42:29.000 And it's a shared belief in that creator and those specific rights that are bestowed upon them.

00:42:34.000 And they come with duties, right?

00:42:35.000 And I think, you know, for a long time, we've had this post-World War II consensus that America is an experiment.

00:42:44.000 It's a city on a hill.

00:42:45.000 You had, you know, the George Bush second inaugural address where we're going to take this to the world, right?

00:42:51.000 That's a failure.

00:42:52.000 Neoconservatism was one of the most, I think, misguided and destructive ideologies that seeped into the right in just like American political history.

00:43:05.000 And it's done untold damage.

00:43:07.000 You've lost treasure.

00:43:08.000 You've lost lives and you've lost purpose.

00:43:11.000 And, you know, for a long time, people talked about America as a melting pot.

00:43:15.000 Multiculturalism does not produce a melting pot. 1.00

00:43:18.000 It produces a pressure cooker.

00:43:20.000 And this is what that creates.

00:43:21.000 It produces enclaves.

00:43:23.000 It produces enclaves of people that have Like-minded, you know, cultures, and they believe that they want to have their society in a larger, broader society.

00:43:35.000 And this is like the this is where the conversation needs to move.

00:43:37.000 Because when you're like talking about immigration, why we should restrict immigration, everyone is in agreement, or a lot of people on the right are in agreement that, like, okay, so there's some economic impacts, like housing, jobs, et cetera, et cetera.

00:43:48.000 But we also need to stop shaming people for having like concerns about the culture of their country changing.

00:43:53.000 Like immigration, as a British person, radically alters your culture because the demographic composition of your country is a very valid complaint to have, a very valid concern to have. 1.00

00:44:04.000 And so I'm really tired of people that are supposedly on our side, like tone-policing everybody over saying, like, yeah, you know what?

00:44:10.000 It would be nice if New York City didn't have, like, Zoron wouldn't be a thing because Zoron actually is assimilated. 0.93

00:44:16.000 He's assimilated to New York City.

00:44:17.000 That is what New York City looks like in 2025.

00:44:19.000 Zoron's actually a great representation of what New York City in 2025 looks like.

00:44:23.000 Go to Queens.

00:44:24.000 It's half foreign born. 0.83

00:44:25.000 Same thing with Elon Omar.

00:44:26.000 Elon Omar is actually a great example of what Minneapolis looks like.

00:44:29.000 It's like a quarter Somali.

00:44:30.000 So it's like, yeah, I think immigration or economics aside, we're all in agreement there.

00:44:37.000 The cultural component is a perfectly valid concern to have. 1.00

00:44:41.000 You change the people out, the culture is going to change.

00:44:44.000 It's not this magical thing that floats around that you absorb in the air.

00:44:48.000 It's in you.

00:44:50.000 Another thing that Orin was saying in that podcast, he was saying, you know, just because you have someone that comes to the United States, they shouldn't automatically think that they're going to become a citizen.

00:44:59.000 And he was saying, you know, maybe he's like, just because you get a green card and you're allowed to live here doesn't mean that you'll become a citizen, doesn't mean that you should expect to be able to vote.

00:45:08.000 Maybe your grandkids will, right?

00:45:10.000 Like, but the idea that you come to the United States and you become a citizen and you automatically get a set, you're getting enfranchisement and you get a say in how this country is, you know, what the government's like and what kind of laws are passed.

00:45:26.000 Like that shouldn't be the way that we run our country.

00:45:28.000 What kind of empire historically would allow a foreigner to come to that country who like bothered to get a citizenship like five years ago and then take over the seat of that empire? 0.75

00:45:28.000 Yeah. 0.75

00:45:39.000 Like on what planet are we doing that?

00:45:41.000 And that's exactly what's happening right now with Zoron.

00:45:43.000 We used to be a much more brutal people.

00:45:45.000 And we look back on these things often with derision and regret.

00:45:49.000 And I think there are many circumstances in which we should, but I also think there's many circumstances in which we should not.

00:45:57.000 And that is this idea.

00:46:00.000 I'll put what I mean to say is this.

00:46:02.000 If you were at a bar or restaurant and let's just go back, I don't know, maybe the 60s, 70s, you're with your wife and a guy walked up and said something untoward to your wife. 0.57

00:46:14.000 The guy would punch him in the face.

00:46:16.000 No cops would be called and everyone would be like, don't talk about a man's wife like that. 0.99

00:46:20.000 Today, it's just like pure litigious.

00:46:23.000 No one, everyone puts their hands up and like, what do we do?

00:46:26.000 The criminal runs, you know, someone will steal money from the register and everyone's like, better not do anything about it.

00:46:31.000 You've got the story where a guy tried shoplifting from a spirit Halloween.

00:46:35.000 And when the security guard stopped him, fight breaks out.

00:46:38.000 And when the criminal is on top of him punching him, the security guard shoots the guy and gets charged.

00:46:44.000 So a criminal tried robbing a place and the security guard doing his job to stop him is getting beaten by the guy, shoots him in self-defense, and they charge the security guard.

00:46:52.000 That's what I mean by we are not a brutal people in the right way anymore.

00:46:56.000 We've gone too far in the other direction and now we're basically like, no, no, don't.

00:47:00.000 Like the criminals, it's not their fault.

00:47:02.000 Have we stopped to ask what socioeconomic factors made the guy try to steal from the store?

00:47:06.000 Well, the brutality is permitted for like the lowest common denominator.

00:47:06.000 Yeah.

00:47:10.000 Like there is a proportion of the country, like the homeless, people that are just in general just delinquents.

00:47:15.000 Like they're permitted to just impose brutality on the rest of the country.

00:47:18.000 And we're just like supposed to take it and like hope that they just stop because they're state.

00:47:24.000 They read a pamphlet.

00:47:24.000 Have you no heart?

00:47:25.000 Let me pull this story from the from the Associated Press.

00:47:28.000 Man sets fire to a woman on a Chicago L-train before fleeing, police say.

00:47:33.000 And the only question I have is: what socioeconomic factors led this man to incinerate, to immolate this woman, this poor man, this poor, poor man.

00:47:43.000 You know what?

00:47:44.000 It was our fault he did this.

00:47:46.000 No, he didn't.

00:47:46.000 We should all apologize.

00:47:48.000 I'm pretty sure this was from Palestine.

00:47:49.000 I was joking, but for real?

00:47:51.000 Oh my God.

00:47:51.000 Oh, probably.

00:47:53.000 Do we know anything about him?

00:47:54.000 Who is this guy?

00:47:55.000 Let me read the story.

00:47:56.000 Here's a story.

00:47:56.000 They say a man doused a woman with fluid and set her on fire.

00:47:59.000 I don't mean to take this lie.

00:48:00.000 I mean, this is a horrifying story.

00:48:01.000 Leaving her in critical condition.

00:48:01.000 Right.

00:48:03.000 The attack happened Monday night on a blue line train.

00:48:05.000 Witnesses told the investigators a 26-year-old woman and a man, believed to be in his 40s, began arguing.

00:48:10.000 And the man then doused her with a liquid and set her on a light.

00:48:14.000 When the train pulled into the Clark and Lake stop, the man fled and the woman stumbled out and fell to the ground. 0.77

00:48:19.000 Police said, noting she was taken to a hospital.

00:48:22.000 A person of interest in the attack was taken into custody.

00:48:24.000 Like many other.

00:48:25.000 So is there another story on the argument?

00:48:27.000 I'm sure there is.

00:48:28.000 I'll try and find it.

00:48:29.000 But I was mocking the circumstances around our lax society and how it's come to the point where you had a street immolation?

00:48:39.000 A guy had lighter fluid on him?

00:48:41.000 Like, what is going on?

00:48:42.000 Yeah, because the argument precedes the lighting on fire.

00:48:46.000 So, like, presumably he had it on his inventory already.

00:48:48.000 And then, like, I don't know, either he's picking a fight or like he's just like, I don't want to carry a firearm.

00:48:52.000 If I get in a fight, I'll just light someone on fire.

00:48:54.000 This is a serious story.

00:48:55.000 The joke was actually distasteful.

00:48:57.000 No, I feel bad.

00:48:58.000 The joke is distasteful?

00:49:00.000 My joke, yeah.

00:49:02.000 He did it for Palestine. 0.81

00:49:03.000 Oh.

00:49:04.000 Oh, you were joking.

00:49:05.000 I thought you were literally because they got into an argument over something.

00:49:05.000 Yeah.

00:49:08.000 I thought there was a news story saying they were arguing because it was a lot of fun.

00:49:10.000 Because of that guy who self-immolated a couple of years ago outside of the forest.

00:49:14.000 You forgot it.

00:49:15.000 Or there's the other story where you mean the other story where the guy went up to the pro-Israel people and doused them with fluid.

00:49:20.000 No, no, there was another guy.

00:49:21.000 I get your point.

00:49:22.000 I'm saying this is.

00:49:23.000 I'm just saying, why make the joke when someone literally already did this?

00:49:26.000 That's why I thought you were being serious.

00:49:27.000 No, yeah.

00:49:28.000 No, it was distasteful.

00:49:31.000 My point ultimately was.

00:49:33.000 Very distasteful.

00:49:34.000 I don't pull the strings.

00:49:36.000 It is insane.

00:49:37.000 Yeah, they just say verbal altercation.

00:49:38.000 I thought you were literally saying because maybe AP was omitting that fact because they would do something like that.

00:49:44.000 But there was a verbal altercation.

00:49:44.000 No, no.

00:49:46.000 26-year-old woman, a 45-year-old man, and he poured a liquid on her and ignited it.

00:49:52.000 I try not to beef with randos on the street, especially with people with nothing to lose.

00:49:56.000 Those are the people who you want to argue with the least.

00:49:59.000 If they look like they have nothing to lose, you just got to take it, drop your ego, walk away, especially from the usual suspects, homeless-looking people.

00:50:06.000 I learned during COVID in DC when it was like me and just the tweakers on the metro that you just don't interact with anyone on the trains.

00:50:12.000 You just don't.

00:50:12.000 Like there's a ton of people who just camp out and ride all day long that are ready to lose it.

00:50:18.000 This is a lesson you learn in Chicago.

00:50:20.000 My friends from the suburbs would road rage all the time. 0.98

00:50:24.000 And I was like, you will be shot and murdered. 0.99

00:50:27.000 I'm like, if you are in my car, don't scream and hang out the window at another vehicle because they will pull a gun and put a bullet in your face. 1.00

00:50:35.000 You just let them honk rage or cut you off. 0.96

00:50:38.000 It's not worth it.

00:50:39.000 Bro, I've been driving down the street in Chicago and a guy just pointed a gun out of his car and just shot at me and my brother for no reason.

00:50:44.000 No reason whatsoever.

00:50:44.000 No.

00:50:45.000 Don't give them one.

00:50:46.000 This is Chicago.

00:50:48.000 It is insane.

00:50:50.000 This is what we get.

00:50:50.000 You know what's really funny, guys?

00:50:52.000 I have a funny add-on to this story.

00:50:53.000 I'm going to pull this up on X.

00:50:55.000 I didn't know this.

00:50:56.000 I just found out recently that I had made this post about crime by political party that went massively viral.

00:51:04.000 And I was not aware.

00:51:06.000 I have it right here, actually.

00:51:08.000 And we'll throw this into the mix.

00:51:10.000 And what I said was this: this is what violence rates look like depending on political party.

00:51:15.000 How effing weird, am I right?

00:51:17.000 When you get rid of fringe wackos and count crime by party control, it looks a lot different. 0.50

00:51:21.000 I literally said by party control.

00:51:24.000 The graph literally says total violence rates for the sum of cities.

00:51:28.000 This is 2023 combined violent rates by party.

00:51:31.000 The graph is, I went on ChatGPT and I said, of the top most populous cities, give me a graph showing total crime by party control.

00:51:40.000 And this is what you get.

00:51:43.000 This is the data.

00:51:44.000 In the top cities, most of them are controlled by Democrats.

00:51:48.000 And do you know what the response I get is?

00:51:51.000 Well, this chart is only true because Democrats run most cities.

00:51:54.000 And I'm like, that's literally my point.

00:51:57.000 I don't understand how is that an argument to what I'm making?

00:51:59.000 I'm making the point.

00:52:01.000 You are getting a massive amount of crime because Democrats are running the cities. 0.94

00:52:06.000 Like, do you, do you agree?

00:52:07.000 Well, here's the funny part.

00:52:08.000 Snopes, it's got 26.3 million views.

00:52:12.000 I didn't know it got so much attention.

00:52:14.000 I tweeted it and just forgot about it.

00:52:15.000 But Snopes did a breakdown, and they were basically saying Tim Pool's data is misleading as it doesn't actually clarify what's going on, blah, blah, blah.

00:52:26.000 So they made their own graph, which shows literally the same thing.

00:52:31.000 Combined violent crime rates by mayoral party of the 13 U.S. cities with the highest crime instances.

00:52:36.000 And it's even lower for Republican.

00:52:39.000 The point is, in a city where the population votes Republican, crime is, there is less crime.

00:52:47.000 And on average, the point of the chart was not to say Republicans commit less crime than Democrats.

00:52:53.000 It was to say Democrats control all of the major cities, and this is where crime is happening.

00:52:59.000 My expectation from this, because we've gone over the data before, a separate chart, is that in cities where you have a Republican mayor, crime is actually lesser.

00:53:09.000 So you don't need to look at the top 13 cities.

00:53:14.000 Look at West Virginia.

00:53:16.000 Crime is lower on average here than in other places.

00:53:20.000 You look at all of the major blue cities, and that is where most of the crime is occurring. 0.98

00:53:23.000 The reason I put this together is because there was a story from the Washington Post a couple years ago that said, when you track per capita and when you track volume, Democrat cities have the highest per capita and the highest volume of crime.

00:53:36.000 And there was only one city at the time, it was San Diego, that was run by a Republican that made it to the top, and it had a lower than average crime per capita and by volume.

00:53:44.000 And they argue, well, by volume doesn't make sense because it's a lower population.

00:53:47.000 Agreed, per capita then?

00:53:49.000 This is what you get in places like Chicago.

00:53:53.000 Look, man, here's the question for you guys and for the audience, and you guys can comment.

00:53:58.000 How do you feel about living in a society where you are told, if someone begins to berate you or threaten you, shut up and just do as you're told?

00:54:08.000 I feel bad.

00:54:09.000 I want to live in a world with more Daniel Pennys. 1.00

00:54:11.000 Oh, for sure.

00:54:12.000 I have always been more of the mind of growing up in Chicago, the lesson I learned was if you refuse to be weak, they'll leave you alone.

00:54:24.000 And I think this is true because the United States for a while had this ethos in terms of foreign policy.

00:54:30.000 We don't negotiate with terrorists for hostages for anything.

00:54:34.000 But if someone takes a kidnapper in a foreign country, the U.S. says they make sure the statement is, you will get not a single penny from us, but special forces will rain down at two in the morning from a helicopter with night vision and put a bullet in the face of you and your families and rescue the hostages.

00:54:50.000 So what happens?

00:54:51.000 This is what they train in hostile environment.

00:54:53.000 They tell you, if you're an American and you are kidnapped, hang tight, you will be rescued.

00:54:59.000 Now, if you're European, you're going to be sold because the European policy is pay whatever the ransom is.

00:55:06.000 So when kidnappers see a foreigner, if they kidnap you and you say I'm an American, they'll drop you and say, get out of here, go away.

00:55:13.000 Because they know the only thing that's going to happen is a helicopter at 2 in the morning and night vision goggles.

00:55:17.000 But if you say I'm Spanish or I'm German, they'll say, payday, and they'll take you. 0.90

00:55:22.000 That's the macro lesson.

00:55:24.000 Certainly, there are instances where if you're walking on the street and some crazy dude threatens you and you try and go to a fight, you might die.

00:55:29.000 That's true.

00:55:30.000 But in my view, the science shows this.

00:55:34.000 We've talked about it before.

00:55:36.000 If you're the kind of person that will be demure, when someone comes up to you and threatens you, you say, yes, anything you say, you will get robbed more often.

00:55:42.000 And this is why it's spreading.

00:55:44.000 We used to be a more brutal people.

00:55:46.000 We are not anymore.

00:55:47.000 And the reality is, this woman was immolated and she's probably going to die.

00:55:52.000 Had she pulled out a knife, she'd be in prison.

00:55:56.000 Yeah.

00:55:56.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the brutality was all the way up.

00:55:59.000 Like, I mean, the government handled this before this needed to be handled on the street.

00:56:03.000 That's what loony bins are for.

00:56:04.000 This guy should have been in a loony bin.

00:56:06.000 He's probably distributing some really distressing behaviors.

00:56:09.000 He'd probably be in a rubber ramada right now.

00:56:11.000 That's this.

00:56:12.000 That's fair.

00:56:13.000 But in all seriousness, this might just be a guy who, in his view, he's in his 40s.

00:56:20.000 He lived a life he developed in this city.

00:56:23.000 He believes he can do what he wants.

00:56:26.000 How does a culture get to the point where people have no fear that they can bring lighter fluid or some kind of flammable liquid and be on a train and be like dousing a woman?

00:56:36.000 I got to be honest.

00:56:39.000 I understand it's a matter of seconds to splash someone with a liquid and then light them up, but it's still not faster than a stab or something.

00:56:47.000 I'm curious.

00:56:49.000 People don't expect this.

00:56:51.000 Is there a better way to put it?

00:56:53.000 Now that it's out there, I got to say, if someone splashes you with a liquid, run.

00:56:59.000 Or if they're about to splash you, run.

00:57:01.000 It could be an acid attack.

00:57:02.000 It is insane that we have to say this, but this is what our cities have turned into because we have, you know, I take that back.

00:57:08.000 I'm sorry.

00:57:09.000 We are a brutal people to the innocent.

00:57:12.000 Yes.

00:57:12.000 And the Democrats are brutal to those who would seek to protect themselves.

00:57:15.000 Yeah.

00:57:16.000 They literally prioritize the most dysfunctional people.

00:57:19.000 And this doesn't just apply to crime.

00:57:21.000 This applies to everything.

00:57:22.000 Is that the dysfunctional in our society are prioritized with everything.

00:57:26.000 And it's really and really infuriating.

00:57:28.000 Crime is where it costs people's lives.

00:57:30.000 So that's where it's the most prevalent.

00:57:33.000 Yeah.

00:57:34.000 This guy, presumably, I'll just speak about like these homeless, these, you know, mentally disturbed people in general, is they don't even have the mental faculties to even comprehend what the outcome could be of their action.

00:57:46.000 And that's why they need to be institutionalized.

00:57:48.000 They can't even understand that there would be any law that would come down on them.

00:57:52.000 When your IQ is so low, you have zero impulse control.

00:57:55.000 You have zero comprehension of consequences.

00:57:58.000 That's why the breakfast question is a thing.

00:58:00.000 This guy would not be able to answer the breakfast question.

00:58:03.000 No, but again, what if he can?

00:58:07.000 What if this is a person who's of sound mind who just says, they will do nothing about this?

00:58:12.000 It could be, but he would be an exception to the majority of people on the Chicago trains that are walking around that are just ready to snap at any moment.

00:58:19.000 I think what we've seen, it's fair to say that in a lot of Chicago with the violence, it certainly is a breakfast question issue.

00:58:25.000 These guys are killing each other because they're being insulted on the internet.

00:58:28.000 It's funny because for most people, when you go online and we all insult each other, it results in nothing.

00:58:33.000 But in Chicago, you insult somebody, they show up to your house, and they got switches and they just spray your house down.

00:58:39.000 And there was a story I covered where some old lady got killed because the dudes lived in the second floor in an apartment and in the back.

00:58:46.000 So when they unloaded in the house, the lady on the first floor got killed because the guys upstairs are talking smack on Snapchat.

00:58:52.000 Yup, those guys wouldn't answer the breakfast question.

00:58:54.000 For those that aren't familiar, it's if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?

00:58:59.000 And if their response is, but I didn't have breakfast or, but I did have breakfast, it means they can't understand a conditional hypothetical.

00:59:07.000 And the response should be, if I didn't, hungry, I guess.

00:59:12.000 Or if you're someone who doesn't, I don't eat breakfast.

00:59:14.000 I'd say, well, considering I don't eat breakfast, I probably would feel the same as I always do.

00:59:17.000 I don't know.

00:59:18.000 There are many people.

00:59:19.000 I love the conditional hypothetical thing.

00:59:19.000 You know what?

00:59:21.000 Just ask everybody a conditional hypothetical hypothesis.

00:59:23.000 Well, ask that reporter, it's like, hey, how would you feel if Trump didn't call you Piggy?

00:59:26.000 Be like, he did call me Piggy.

00:59:29.000 It's probably the answer you would indeed get.

00:59:32.000 Average Germany. 0.85

00:59:33.000 You know, the problem is, I think it's multifaceted.

00:59:36.000 First of all, it's the criminals know that most people in our society are going to behave in a passive way.

00:59:44.000 So they're going to be able to get away with it.

00:59:46.000 And a big part of the reason why people will behave in a passive way is because, first of all, the justice system will prosecute you for defending yourself if you actually quote unquote win the engagement, right?

00:59:59.000 You somehow are able to come out on top and not get beaten to a pulp or you're able to defend yourself.

01:00:06.000 The justice system is going to prosecute you or attempt to prosecute you like it did with Daniel Penny.

01:00:11.000 And they know that if they're the people that are aggressing, if they're going to attack people, the justice system will not prosecute them.

01:00:19.000 You've got consistently repeat offenders that are carrying out these attacks and stuff.

01:00:25.000 And there's nothing that the government does.

01:00:27.000 The government doesn't put them, the justice system doesn't put them in jail.

01:00:30.000 They're released on bail or bond immediately.

01:00:34.000 They walk right out the same day they're arrested.

01:00:37.000 And so there's no downside to people that have low impulse control just behaving however they want.

01:00:43.000 Yeah, we've forgotten as a society that some people just don't want to be rehabilitated, right? 0.97

01:00:48.000 Some people are just crazy.

01:00:50.000 Some people do intend to enact violence on others.

01:00:52.000 And, you know, I had a friend in D.C., Philip Todd, who was subject to this, right?

01:00:57.000 He was just walking down H Street.

01:00:59.000 I think it was around dinner time.

01:01:01.000 And this guy who was released a couple days before on, I believe, for Step Back Credits, just knifed him in the street.

01:01:07.000 And he got knifed in the head.

01:01:08.000 He was a Rand Paul staffer. 0.53

01:01:10.000 You can look this up.

01:01:11.000 But is he okay?

01:01:12.000 He's okay.

01:01:12.000 Yeah, he survived.

01:01:13.000 But it was terrible.

01:01:14.000 Yeah, tragic.

01:01:15.000 Yeah.

01:01:16.000 And it happens to more people than you think.

01:01:19.000 And this was why I particularly was like so ecstatic about President Trump putting the National Guard in D.C. Because there were so many staffers that were getting carjacked.

01:01:29.000 There were so many staff that were going out at night to just go to the bar and have just a social gathering with their friends or just leaving work from the Hill and just interacting with people that only meant harm for them.

01:01:41.000 There was a period of time on the Hill.

01:01:43.000 I mean, people who worked with me know this.

01:01:45.000 Like I was seriously pushing for staff to be able to conceal carry on the hill, right?

01:01:50.000 Because I mean, think about it.

01:01:51.000 And they still should be allowed to.

01:01:52.000 Exactly.

01:01:53.000 They totally should, right?

01:01:54.000 I mean, the secret is like there is a little area in the law that actually allows them to if a member delegates that ability.

01:02:03.000 But the issue is like with a surprise attack, you're walking down the street and someone comes up behind you.

01:02:08.000 You don't just spin around and draw on them.

01:02:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:11.000 So if someone is nuts and they're just going to stab you, there's little you can do except for never let anyone walk near you. 0.88

01:02:18.000 And I'm not saying draw them. 0.90

01:02:20.000 I'm saying walk the other way, turn around, face them, back off, move the other direction.

01:02:24.000 And that's the sad thing is these policies have resulted in people who are saying, what is the meme online?

01:02:32.000 Would you rather be racist or dead?

01:02:34.000 Or like, would you rather be alive and racist or what is it? 0.99

01:02:39.000 Not racist and dead or something like that. 0.86

01:02:40.000 Sentiment, yeah.

01:02:42.000 And it's being said by people who typically are racist, but the point they're making is, what's the point of taking the chance?

01:02:48.000 If you're racist, who cares? 0.71

01:02:50.000 If you tend not to be, sooner or later someone might stab you.

01:02:53.000 And I'm like, I think it's actually more so just depending on the area you're in and there's high crime, don't walk near people.

01:03:01.000 The sentiment is just like stay away from other people.

01:03:03.000 It's a scary thought.

01:03:04.000 That's the world we live in.

01:03:05.000 And it's because we are not a brutal people anymore.

01:03:08.000 Again, correction.

01:03:09.000 We're brutal to the victims.

01:03:10.000 And because of that, people are scared to defend themselves.

01:03:14.000 Let's jump to this story, though.

01:03:15.000 The end is nigh.

01:03:16.000 I hope you guys have prepared and kissed your loved ones.

01:03:19.000 NASA is tracking a vast anomaly growing in Earth's magnetic field.

01:03:25.000 Y'all noticed that there was an aurora that reached down to central Texas in Florida recently.

01:03:30.000 A little odd.

01:03:31.000 Indeed, it is.

01:03:32.000 I talked with Ben Davidson and fact-checked this, but yes, in the last hundred years, there have been 10 northern lights phenomenon in the lower 48 reaching down this far into the United States.

01:03:45.000 Five of them happened in the last two years.

01:03:49.000 Ben Davidson argues that the Earth's magnetic field is weakening.

01:03:53.000 And so solar storms, as well as standard solar activity, is more likely to penetrate to the surface, causing power outages and radio problems, static interference, et cetera.

01:04:05.000 And then we get this story.

01:04:06.000 This one's actually kind of freaky.

01:04:08.000 They say since 2014, there is a gigantic dent in the magnetosphere that has grown to the size of, I think it says Europe and getting bigger.

01:04:19.000 So the question I have here with this story, and they say, don't worry, it won't affect life on Earth.

01:04:28.000 We've seen, again, with these auroras, there are theories that are called kooky that the poles may shift and this will cause a catastrophe on earth, a cataclysm.

01:04:39.000 At the same time, I wonder if there is a connection to the fact that billionaires are building mountain bunkers in New Zealand, underground in Hawaii, in Montana, and Wyoming.

01:04:50.000 Why are powerful people building underground mountain bunkers?

01:04:55.000 Now, it could just be that if you got the money, why not?

01:04:58.000 Right?

01:04:59.000 If you're sitting on billions of dollars, Elon's probably like, sure, I guess.

01:05:02.000 What else are you doing with it, right?

01:05:04.000 However, we know that cash, that net worth isn't liquid.

01:05:08.000 This would mean these billionaires are liquidating assets into cash to fund underground bunkers for themselves.

01:05:17.000 What is leading them to believe they need these things?

01:05:21.000 World War III?

01:05:22.000 Is that reasonable?

01:05:23.000 Is there something they know about the gigantic Europe-sized dent in the magnetic field?

01:05:28.000 Zoran's money.

01:05:30.000 That's true, too.

01:05:31.000 That's true, too.

01:05:33.000 Or are we facing the end of days?

01:05:36.000 I mean, look, if you have means to do that, I think that that's something that's been popular for Americans for a long, long time.

01:05:46.000 Ever since the dawn of the atomic age, people have been building some kind of underground bunker if they can.

01:05:52.000 They're like, oh, you know, what if the big one comes and they're going to drop nuclear bombs and blah, blah, blah.

01:05:58.000 I think that that's something that people that have money, like, I don't see the downside of it, right?

01:06:04.000 I just want to point out what you're sitting on.

01:06:06.000 This story from Independent is from September of this year, why tech billionaires are suddenly hoarding doomsday mega bunkers.

01:06:06.000 Why not?

01:06:14.000 Don't take the stripper poles out. 1.00

01:06:15.000 Okay.

01:06:17.000 The event is coming.

01:06:19.000 The event.

01:06:20.000 They named it already.

01:06:21.000 Indeed.

01:06:22.000 Well, the event is a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers, well, honestly, I think that it's a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers, they have a different concept of why they're building them.

01:06:34.000 You know, it's like, well, it could be a pandemic that I have to get, you know, a pandemic that's worse than COVID, or it could be a nuclear war.

01:06:42.000 It could be the poll shift or what have you.

01:06:45.000 And it doesn't really matter.

01:06:47.000 I mean, I could.

01:06:47.000 I think it's civil war.

01:06:48.000 Yeah, it could be.

01:06:49.000 You are looking for it.

01:06:50.000 Part of the event.

01:06:51.000 Part of the reason.

01:06:52.000 Part of the reason why I bought my place in New Hampshire is because it's 50 acres and it's tucked away in the woods.

01:06:58.000 It's not, my house isn't on the road.

01:07:00.000 You can't accidentally show up on my front yard.

01:07:03.000 You know, it's hidden away.

01:07:04.000 And I bought it because should something bad happen, I've got a place to go.

01:07:09.000 And when COVID hit, when I was, you know, I was up in up on the hill in New Hampshire, my life didn't change at all.

01:07:15.000 Yeah.

01:07:16.000 You know, it was the same from one day to the next.

01:07:20.000 Okay, this is pretty epic.

01:07:20.000 Look at this picture.

01:07:22.000 This is another angle of the Atlas.

01:07:24.000 What they do is they dig this whole thing out, place it.

01:07:28.000 Look at this.

01:07:29.000 And then they bury it.

01:07:31.000 And you get to live in there forever with no sun.

01:07:35.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:07:36.000 I'm kind of jealous they got such a sweet bug out spot, though.

01:07:39.000 Like, that's pretty cool.

01:07:41.000 In fact, maybe it just would be nice to have this as a house.

01:07:44.000 No.

01:07:45.000 Yeah, what do you mean?

01:07:46.000 Nobody knows where you are.

01:07:46.000 I don't know.

01:07:48.000 I live in the storage container.

01:07:50.000 You have that.

01:07:51.000 It's not your house.

01:07:53.000 That's just your basement.

01:07:54.000 You build the house on top of it.

01:07:56.000 Oh, they do.

01:07:57.000 You bug out.

01:07:57.000 Look.

01:07:58.000 Take a look at this.

01:07:58.000 There you go.

01:07:59.000 It actually, oh, wait.

01:08:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:01.000 They build on top of it and it connects down into the underground bunker.

01:08:04.000 Come on.

01:08:04.000 Look at this, though.

01:08:05.000 You got to just armory.

01:08:07.000 Yeah.

01:08:08.000 No, no, the whole bunker.

01:08:09.000 It's just literally an armory.

01:08:11.000 That's awesome.

01:08:12.000 I mean, it's sick.

01:08:12.000 Let's go.

01:08:14.000 And if you have access to that kind of money, why not?

01:08:18.000 What's the downside?

01:08:18.000 Like, what are you going to do?

01:08:19.000 The event is coming.

01:08:20.000 Well, no, but this is the point I was making.

01:08:22.000 The left argues like billionaires have all this money.

01:08:24.000 No, they don't.

01:08:25.000 It's not liquid.

01:08:26.000 They don't have this money.

01:08:27.000 Bezos gets paid $83,000 salary, and then he gets, I think, like a million and benefits.

01:08:32.000 When he wants to spend cash, he takes loans out.

01:08:35.000 This means it's not so much, and I'm not saying it's impossible or very difficult, but they're doing more than just, I got the cash lying around.

01:08:41.000 No, they're taking action and liquidating assets to be able to have the cash to build these deep underground bunkers or whatever.

01:08:48.000 And this one is not even an example of a particularly expensive one.

01:08:51.000 Like, I'm talking, bro, they got like, there are stories of mountain, like, planes landing inside of mountains.

01:08:56.000 No, we can do it.

01:08:59.000 Yeah, you can do it super cheap.

01:09:00.000 The Hasidics in Brooklyn did it, and they got in a bunch of trouble for it, but that's an economical option. 1.00

01:09:05.000 You just dig under.

01:09:06.000 There was an underground network for a while in COVID, huh?

01:09:08.000 Yeah, and they got in trouble for it.

01:09:09.000 I was like, hey, they're just prepping.

01:09:10.000 Like, what's wrong?

01:09:11.000 What are they?

01:09:11.000 It's kind of based.

01:09:12.000 Yeah.

01:09:12.000 Give them credit for it.

01:09:13.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:09:14.000 European mountain bunkers.

01:09:17.000 Yeah, crazy.

01:09:20.000 Military is building them in Europe, the European military.

01:09:23.000 If you have Switzerland, if you have a bunker like that, you have to stock it with your arms.

01:09:28.000 It's like one big bug out shelter.

01:09:29.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:09:30.000 I love the cheese.

01:09:32.000 But if you have something like that, whether it be a bunker for the event or just a panic room, right?

01:09:40.000 Someone breaks into your house, you shove your family downstairs and lock the door, wait for the police to show up.

01:09:45.000 Now, what about this?

01:09:46.000 Do you guys think this is true?

01:09:47.000 The U.S. spent $21 trillion to build secret underground doobesday bunkers for elites.

01:09:53.000 This was on Tucker's show back in May, and we talked about it.

01:09:55.000 The dumbs, they're called, the deep underground military bases.

01:09:58.000 I'm just saying, man, when we see an Aurora in Texas several times in the past couple of years, you might be like, is that normal?

01:10:06.000 And the truth is, we are much, we live shorter lives than the Earth is old or whatever.

01:10:12.000 So maybe these things happen.

01:10:14.000 Auroras happen.

01:10:15.000 It's just not that often.

01:10:16.000 So maybe we're overreacting.

01:10:18.000 But these people may be overreacting substantially more than we are if they're spending 21 trillion. 0.91

01:10:23.000 Now, maybe this lady right here is just crazy. 1.00

01:10:27.000 No, it's legit.

01:10:28.000 I mean, you have the Aurora Borealis like all over the South.

01:10:32.000 I mean, you have these wildfires everywhere, these earthquakes.

01:10:34.000 I had a white DoorDash driver the other day.

01:10:36.000 Whoa.

01:10:37.000 Like, things are getting like crazy.

01:10:39.000 This is, you know, that reminds me of that 30 Rock episode.

01:10:42.000 You guys see this one where it was about Occupy Wall Street?

01:10:44.000 And Jack Donaghy, played by everyone's favorite Alec Baldwin, gets mugged by a white guy in a button-up shirt.

01:10:50.000 It's over.

01:10:50.000 And he's like, we're done.

01:10:52.000 Biden, buy the body.

01:10:52.000 It's done.

01:10:53.000 We're at the bottom.

01:10:54.000 Sell everything.

01:10:55.000 He was like, you don't understand, Lemon.

01:10:57.000 He was wearing a button-up shirt.

01:10:59.000 That means you're, yeah, you're at the bottom.

01:11:00.000 So that's when you buy.

01:11:01.000 If that ever happens, you buy everything.

01:11:03.000 It's funny how that show was like pretty offensive, but nobody cared because back then and it was funny.

01:11:09.000 And then within like four years of actually while the show was still on the air, everybody got super woke.

01:11:14.000 It's just like adjusted as it went on.

01:11:16.000 Yeah.

01:11:16.000 I mean, they did a bunch of racist humor and everyone laughed.

01:11:20.000 It's like it's like the office.

01:11:21.000 The office could never air today.

01:11:22.000 Yeah, that's wild.

01:11:23.000 Yeah.

01:11:24.000 It's a shame.

01:11:25.000 Well, maybe today.

01:11:26.000 Maybe today it could.

01:11:27.000 I mean, we've breaking it open a bit.

01:11:30.000 Bro, have you been on Instagram lately?

01:11:32.000 Dude, holy.

01:11:32.000 Oh, my God.

01:11:35.000 All I can say is, holy what, dude?

01:11:37.000 I open up Instagram and I'm like, wow.

01:11:40.000 Yeah, they like your average Instagram feed like outflanks 4chan.

01:11:43.000 Bro, I saw one video.

01:11:45.000 I opened up my Instagram and it was an Android George Floyd buying KFC.

01:11:50.000 And I was just like, this is cool.

01:11:52.000 Do you not get Charlie Kirk?

01:11:54.000 My boy too yet?

01:11:54.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:55.000 Yeah, I get them together.

01:11:56.000 They're doing high school pages.

01:11:58.000 They'll make it like an Agartha high school page and judge if their teachers would make it in or not.

01:12:03.000 And it's like the school assemblies right now are probably insane.

01:12:06.000 They're probably doing like executions at these schools. 0.50

01:12:09.000 It's insane what these kids are posting with their teachers.

01:12:12.000 And you know what happened was like every time I bring up that Instagram keeps recommending these weird racist humor AI videos to me, people go like, you realize the algorithm is based on what you click on.

01:12:22.000 I'm like, yeah, I click on them all the time.

01:12:23.000 Like I watch every single one.

01:12:25.000 They're hilarious.

01:12:26.000 I like them.

01:12:27.000 There was one I saw where it was the Olympics and it was a bunch of, it was like a 100 meter dash through showers.

01:12:27.000 I comment.

01:12:35.000 And it's like white people run through and then like Asians run through and then a bunch of Indians stop and get stuck in front of it and they're like panicking.

01:12:41.000 And I was like, what the?

01:12:43.000 It had like 100,000 likes.

01:12:45.000 There was another one where it was at the Olympics and there was a ladder with a pole going up to a fake roof with a smoke detector and there were two black women changing the smoke detector and it was like first place in 27 seconds. 1.00

01:12:59.000 And I'm just like, I can't believe Instagram is loaded with these videos.

01:13:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:04.000 There was one where it was the, who's the guy who got stabbed in the chest by the Stingray?

01:13:09.000 Oh, Steve Irwin.

01:13:11.000 It's Steve Irwin being like, we're looking for the rare African ceiling bird.

01:13:16.000 And he goes into a black woman's house and the smoke detector is going, beep, beep. 0.50

01:13:19.000 I'm like, dude, how is Instagram allowing these videos?

01:13:23.000 It's just, it's, it's just the floodgates are done.

01:13:26.000 It's a contaminant breach.

01:13:27.000 I actually think this is a phenomenon that is why we're seeing this quote-unquote rift on the right.

01:13:34.000 Because let me put it this way.

01:13:36.000 We'll give this one its own airtime.

01:13:38.000 So we got these videos popping up across Instagram that people describe as like racist AI videos or racist humor, whatever.

01:13:45.000 I think this shows the fact that these videos are allowed, that the left is so desperately beaten, not gone forever, that there's no unified enemy culturally that the right is concerned about.

01:13:57.000 Movies are dropping these film studios like Disney got rid of their DEI department or whatever.

01:14:02.000 Bud Light is cooked.

01:14:04.000 Target, all of this stuff worked. 0.98

01:14:06.000 And now you're allowed to, like, we can say retard again. 0.85

01:14:09.000 You know what I mean? 0.76

01:14:10.000 You're allowed to say these things.

01:14:12.000 And I think now we had this period where the left was so entrenched institutionally.

01:14:17.000 What with like, you couldn't, you couldn't even say you supported Trump.

01:14:20.000 If you, like Vivek Ramaswamy's story, the vape, if you didn't put a black square in your Instagram profile, they came for you.

01:14:26.000 That's how insane it was.

01:14:27.000 That resulted in people like me and staunch conservatives sitting down together and being like, hey, we got a problem.

01:14:33.000 This also resulted in people who are pro-Israel and anti-Israel sitting down and saying, hey, look at that problem.

01:14:39.000 But what happens when that problem is gone?

01:14:41.000 These same people are at the table and they go, woo, now that we've solved that problem, let's get to the next most serious problem.

01:14:47.000 That is, we should stop funding Israel. 0.71

01:14:48.000 And the other guy goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

01:14:50.000 What do you mean?

01:14:51.000 I was never on board with that.

01:14:52.000 I'm for funding Israel.

01:14:54.000 And now you're seeing these rifts emerge on the right because there's nothing else to be like for these individual ideological factions.

01:15:02.000 What is left to defeat but their next most pressing passion?

01:15:06.000 And so you're seeing the libertarians.

01:15:09.000 Largely, I think the right is fracturing on interventionist and anti-interventionist, neoconservative versus new right, or whatever you want to call it.

01:15:17.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it's really a test to how unifying Charlie Kirk was because he kept everyone focused.

01:15:23.000 He was saying, Okay, yes, we won.

01:15:24.000 We had a good victory in the election, but we're not at the point yet where we can start like hashing these things out and re-litigating some of these issues.

01:15:31.000 We still have a lot of work to do, and he kind of was that unifying.

01:15:34.000 And for a lot of other people in the media space, he was kind of a tastemaker, these sorts of things.

01:15:39.000 Once he's gone, a lot of people just lost focus right away and they forget that's like, hey, Trump still has three years.

01:15:44.000 He has a lot of work to do.

01:15:46.000 It's going to take time to do a lot of these things.

01:15:48.000 And people instead just went for engagement.

01:15:51.000 It went every which way.

01:15:52.000 Regardless, people lost focus right away.

01:15:54.000 I think that's the primary issue.

01:15:57.000 I mean, some of it's just that like we have an incredibly unique political coalition that has elected Donald Trump, right?

01:16:04.000 And it's unlike anything I think we've seen in the past couple decades.

01:16:09.000 I think the last time you saw a true like middle America recognition or like class that was represented was when Pat Buchanan was really running, right, in the 90s.

01:16:19.000 And I think that that draws in different debates.

01:16:21.000 And I think, you know, when people heard America first in 2015, when Donald Trump was running, they thought it meant America first, right?

01:16:29.000 And I think, you know, Cota Villa was known for always saying that the primary concern of the statesman should be his own nation, right?

01:16:35.000 Especially in times of revolution, right?

01:16:37.000 Like international affairs should be subordinate to the domestic affairs.

01:16:42.000 But I think what you're saying about this coalition was true.

01:16:48.000 I just saw a clip where Anna Kasparian said she's been watching Candace Owens. 1.00

01:16:52.000 And I'm kind of like, yeah, did you see that clip?

01:16:54.000 That's like, I don't know who she is.

01:16:55.000 Who is Anna? 0.73

01:16:56.000 The Young Turks.

01:16:57.000 Okay.

01:16:58.000 And so it's like, oh, you know, something's happening here politically.

01:16:58.000 Yeah.

01:17:02.000 And I'm wondering if there's like a reorientation now.

01:17:04.000 I mean, with obviously the Heritage Foundation and the Tucker thing, and then the Tucker Candace turning point, like there is a rift that is very obvious to everybody.

01:17:15.000 These debates are happening.

01:17:17.000 People are attacking Tucker for interviewing Nick.

01:17:19.000 And the reason why I defend Tucker on this one is crazy because we've interviewed communists who have come on and advocated for Stalin-esque or like Maoists.

01:17:27.000 They call themselves revolutionaries, and revolutions are not peaceful.

01:17:31.000 They're not talking about peaceful change in government.

01:17:35.000 The point is, there's no outrage when I debate a Maoist, but they lose their mind when Nick goes on an interview with Tucker Carlson.

01:17:43.000 And it's just like Tucker can talk with whoever he wants and he can agree with whoever he wants.

01:17:47.000 Like, what is this policing, this ideological policing that is now occurring?

01:17:51.000 And I think we're seeing, it's what I described.

01:17:54.000 Now that the shared enemy is routed, Democrats aren't gone forever.

01:17:58.000 They're going further left.

01:17:59.000 The question now is, who are we going to allow in our movement?

01:18:03.000 And that means you're going to see certain factions be like, we don't want you here.

01:18:08.000 Because, you know, I think it's fair to say people have different moral worldviews.

01:18:12.000 You're not wrong to believe in your moral worldview and you don't want to share space with someone of an opposing moral worldview.

01:18:18.000 And now that there's the greater villain is defeated, largely, they're now going to say, why am I sharing space with this person I disagree with?

01:18:26.000 And it feels like with the Tucker rift that was a day or two ago where Trump said he can have everyone else want his show.

01:18:34.000 It's whatever.

01:18:35.000 I think that kind of settled that debate pretty much entirely.

01:18:38.000 I think through sheer, what is it?

01:18:42.000 Cult of personality alone, the president was able to wrangle all these disparate factions on the right.

01:18:48.000 And I don't think there's another figure on the right post-Trump who will be able to do so.

01:18:51.000 Trump was able to bring in, you know, these so-called neocons from the past.

01:18:56.000 I don't think it was Trump.

01:18:57.000 You don't think I think it was totally Trump.

01:18:59.000 The anti-immigrant people, the Zionists, of course. 0.98

01:19:02.000 You think it was Charlie Kirk?

01:19:02.000 Charlie Kirk.

01:19:03.000 I think it was Charlie.

01:19:04.000 Okay, well.

01:19:05.000 Think it's not.

01:19:06.000 It's not a surprise that now that Charlie's not with us anymore, we are starting to see the infighting the bubbling up, even Trump yelling at Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:19:15.000 I mean, I think Charlie was a negotiator and a leader and he brought people together and he helped.

01:19:23.000 He was diplomacy between these various factions and without him, everything everyone's going in various, in different directions.

01:19:31.000 I do think here's what, here's what I agree with you on a lot, Donald Trump as a character, there are all these different factions on the right that look up at Trump and say, here's what I agree with.

01:19:41.000 And so that creates a sort of de facto, we're all here, we all agree, we like Trump.

01:19:46.000 But I believe Charlie was the one at the ground level going between each group and saying, what do you need?

01:19:51.000 What can I do for you?

01:19:52.000 Stick together.

01:19:53.000 And without him, it's being ripped apart and people are going at each other's throats.

01:19:58.000 Sure.

01:19:59.000 I'm just thinking of all these different factions too, like traditionalists, pro-life people, people who would otherwise disagree with a lot of the things he does or says, willing to look past that and get on board.

01:20:09.000 I don't know if somebody like a J.D. Vince or Marco Rubio would be able to achieve that in the future, especially when we're seeing more of these cracks in the Republican coalition.

01:20:18.000 So, I mean, I feel like we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about it.

01:20:21.000 A couple of weeks ago, there was a big uproar on the right from Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes.

01:20:27.000 And then Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, put out a statement on Twitter defending Tucker and saying people who are calling him anti-Semitic were wrong and that he stands with Tucker firmly and strongly.

01:20:40.000 There's a big uproar to that.

01:20:43.000 You were, of course, the chief of staff at the time and defended and supported Mr. Roberts' statement at the time.

01:20:50.000 They kind of folded to that backlash.

01:20:52.000 It led to a shakeup at the Heritage Foundation that included you.

01:20:57.000 Could you tell us a little bit more about what their thinking was behind the scenes and if they're feeling like they're caving to so-called cancel culture?

01:21:06.000 I mean, I think Kevin has explained himself, and I don't think I need to explain anything for Dr. Roberts, right?

01:21:11.000 I think he's a good man who, you know, I don't think he's necessarily apologized for the statement.

01:21:16.000 I think he stood by the fact that we should not engage in cancel culture. 0.99

01:21:20.000 I mean, who's to tell a guy like Tim who we can and can't have on a show like this, right?

01:21:25.000 Like, that's not our role.

01:21:27.000 And I think, you know, one of the things that was occurring, and, you know, Kevin talked about this on Dana Losh, I think the day after he put out the statement was there are people behind the scenes that are trying to do that, that are trying to tell people who you can and cannot platform, right?

01:21:40.000 And try to police speech.

01:21:41.000 I mean, maybe that post-World War II liberalism sentiment like prevails in some circles, but like those of us who are like actually conservatives and trying to conserve the ideals of the American founding, like one of those is primarily free speech.

01:21:57.000 And when there's bad ideas, you hash them out and you point out what's bad about them and then you point out what's good, right?

01:22:04.000 And you redirect people towards what's correct.

01:22:06.000 And I think, you know, President Trump put that in his own way the other night.

01:22:10.000 Like, I think Tate was recognizing that.

01:22:12.000 I mean, like, President Trump said to himself, why would I tell Tucker Carlson who he can or can't have on his show?

01:22:17.000 And I mean, you know, ironically enough, you want to talk about who's on people's shows.

01:22:22.000 I mean, nobody was freaking out when Patrick Bett David had Nick Fuentes on his show like a month before, right?

01:22:26.000 That doesn't mean that everyone's endorsing Nick Fuentes' ideas.

01:22:30.000 Just to play devil's advocate here, the thing about Tucker Carlson is that I know he can be a great journalist when he chooses to do so, but for some reason, he chooses to pick and choose who he uses kids' gloves with.

01:22:40.000 So for example, when he was going at Ted Cruz, he made sure to have every question set up and ready to go.

01:22:45.000 Some people would argue that he threw a lot of softballs to Nick and was using this opportunity to kind of hedge around his edges.

01:22:52.000 And could the difference be senator versus random internet guy?

01:22:55.000 Sure.

01:22:56.000 I think he's more than a random internet guy.

01:22:57.000 Just have you heard that?

01:22:59.000 And what do you think of somebody arguing things like that?

01:23:01.000 Have I heard that people think he put on kids' gloves?

01:23:04.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that's plainly like thrown out into the internet ether, and that's a conversation.

01:23:09.000 I think, you know, what Tim's saying, Ted Cruz is a presidential candidate.

01:23:13.000 Tucker Carlson is interviewing some random internet guy with an internet following.

01:23:18.000 There's no reason to make excuses or arguments for why Tucker did what he did or didn't do, right?

01:23:23.000 All of that's up to Tucker, right?

01:23:24.000 And Tucker, at the end of the day, it's his show, how he performs it and how he does it.

01:23:30.000 Either his viewership will decline or it will increase based upon what he does.

01:23:33.000 And like, who am I, some random guy in America, to be like, Tucker, don't do that, right?

01:23:37.000 Like, he's not going to care what I think and he doesn't need to care what I think, right?

01:23:41.000 If I don't want to watch it, I'm not going to watch it.

01:23:43.000 Yeah, with infighting like this, do you think the MAGA coalition is sustainable?

01:23:48.000 I think it has to be.

01:23:49.000 I think if not, then you lose 28 and you go to the gulags.

01:23:52.000 You lose 26.

01:23:53.000 And I think there's a possibility of it.

01:23:54.000 I do think the higher probability is that as the midterms come closer, everybody starts hyper-focusing.

01:24:00.000 What's going to happen is Democrats will start campaigning.

01:24:02.000 They're going to start saying crazy things.

01:24:04.000 The focus in the news cycle will be Democrat promises insane thing they have no power to offer. 0.97

01:24:09.000 And then it doesn't matter if you're pro- or anti-Israel.

01:24:12.000 Everyone's focus is going to be, that's nuts.

01:24:15.000 And this will bring the right together again.

01:24:17.000 However, it doesn't bode well for 28, depending on what Vance has to offer and what his position is going to be, because you are going to get these people who are like, well, Vance, are you pro-Israel?

01:24:26.000 And Tucker is a prominent anti-Zionist personality.

01:24:30.000 He's critical of Israel and he's got a big following.

01:24:32.000 So if JD Vance comes out and says, we're for Israel, Tucker then says, I'm not voting for you.

01:24:38.000 Or I'm not interested.

01:24:40.000 And then his audience says no, and you lose the voters you need to win.

01:24:43.000 I think you're going to lose the American interest if everything we do is debate foreign policy, right?

01:24:47.000 Like the American people are purely focused on an America-first agenda.

01:24:52.000 They want to see an agenda, particularly Gen Z, who has promised a world that they're just not seeing around them, right? 0.96

01:25:00.000 Promised upward mobility, promised that if they go to college and get an expensive education, that they would have a high-paying job and a place where they want to live and raise their family, and they could go buy a beautiful home with a white picket fence and have that stereotypical dog and three kids running around in the front yard, right?

01:25:15.000 That's not accessible to people.

01:25:17.000 And people are sick and tired of hearing all about foreign affairs, foreign relations, and they just want to hear about how can you make America better?

01:25:25.000 They want mass deportations.

01:25:26.000 They don't want half measures.

01:25:27.000 They want to stop seeing blue-collar workers undermined by H-1B workers. 0.98

01:25:32.000 This is interesting.

01:25:33.000 Young Gen Z, 18 to 21, favor Republicans.

01:25:36.000 Older Gen Z, 22 to 29, are more Democratic.

01:25:39.000 Isn't it crazy that Gen Z is 29 years old? 1.00

01:25:41.000 Well, and what's more remarkable is where that split is is basically COVID.

01:25:45.000 Yes.

01:25:46.000 So you have the post-COVID Zoomers, pre-COVID Zoomers.

01:25:48.000 Pre-COVID Zoomers are like an extension of millennials, effectively. 0.95

01:25:52.000 It's the post-COVID Zoomers are like the really base, supposedly. 0.76

01:25:56.000 With post-COVID Zoomers, they're quite literally either trans analogs, effectively, or they're literally like basically groipers. 0.99

01:26:05.000 Like there's not much in between that.

01:26:06.000 I don't know about Zoomer Waffle.

01:26:07.000 I don't know about that.

01:26:08.000 Maybe not that, but like I don't think that like, I think there's this increasingly right-wing.

01:26:12.000 There's this narrative going around that like the GOP has a Nazi problem.

01:26:15.000 Like that's absurd.

01:26:16.000 Or a Lua just to tweeted that today.

01:26:19.000 Yeah.

01:26:19.000 I mean, like, how absurd of an argument is that?

01:26:22.000 I mean, YouGov, it was like last November did polling on that question of like, what is the American perspective on Hitler?

01:26:28.000 And 1% of Americans, literally 1% of Americans, said that they thought good things about Hitler.

01:26:32.000 And that was just the Gripers.

01:26:35.000 It is such a small fraction of people that even care about this.

01:26:38.000 Do you understand, though, that like kind of circles?

01:26:42.000 It circles back to, though, it's like the person who Tucker was interviewing, Nick Funtes, has said good things about Hitler, though, and spoken of him in a positive light.

01:26:49.000 And Tucker used kids' gloves when asking him about that stuff.

01:26:51.000 He chose not to at all.

01:26:53.000 So I guess the greater point would be while you're saying that it's only 1% of the population saying this, this guy is in an interview with Tucker where Tucker has nothing to say about it.

01:27:01.000 And I think one of the greater, the bigger issue here becomes that if Fuentes becomes the face of the Republican Party, then the Republicans aren't going to win because this guy is unpalatable to a general electorate beyond, you know, the online right, frankly, and maybe small parts of the electorate, but definitely not to a general electorate in my estimation.

01:27:17.000 So I think that's the like, I don't know, is it truly 1%?

01:27:19.000 Because the internet would have me thinking something different unless I'm.

01:27:23.000 I mean, that's the problem is that like it's the internet.

01:27:25.000 All of this conversation is framed within the internet.

01:27:27.000 I think there's millions of Americans.

01:27:29.000 Yeah, I'm on the internet right now, though.

01:27:30.000 I'm not going to say I love Hitler.

01:27:32.000 Like, and I don't think that he was a bad guy and that I look up to him and I think Stalin were great guys, even though we're on the internet.

01:27:38.000 It's like.

01:27:39.000 Yeah, I think like a lot of Zoomers, IRL, like even if their politics, you know, are pretty far to the left, pretty far to the right, like they code very normally. 0.98

01:27:47.000 There's still like a lot of normal kids.

01:27:49.000 Like you're saying, was it Rod Dreer?

01:27:52.000 He was talking about the Zoomer staffing in DC.

01:27:54.000 He's like, he said, I estimate 30 to 40% are Groipers. 1.00

01:27:57.000 And I think he's using that as an analog because I think they're trying to set this trap up and they're trying to poison the well with Vance where they're trying to say anyone that is to the right of like Ted Cruz is a Groyper. 0.96

01:28:06.000 And so like that's the trap that was being set up.

01:28:08.000 And Rod Dreyer is great or whatever, but I'm just saying I don't think that 30 to 40% are like tuning into Nick Funtes every night.

01:28:14.000 I think they're just people that are disaffected right-wingers that are just kind of frustrated at the way things are moving.

01:28:19.000 And so they're, they want to see more and they get labeled groipers.

01:28:23.000 I don't think that's entirely true.

01:28:23.000 So that's what I was saying earlier.

01:28:24.000 I was like to the right or groiers. 0.66

01:28:25.000 Brian, you were on the hill before.

01:28:25.000 I was just saying.

01:28:27.000 What do you make of that estimate of 30 to 40 percent?

01:28:29.000 I've never met anyone that calls themselves a Groyper.

01:28:32.000 Exactly.

01:28:32.000 Like never.

01:28:33.000 Like it's a purely internet term.

01:28:35.000 It's called hiding your power level.

01:28:37.000 Oh, hiding your power.

01:28:37.000 You don't understand.

01:28:39.000 That's right.

01:28:39.000 I don't know who it is.

01:28:40.000 Well, no, I just see that.

01:28:41.000 And I'm just so suspicious.

01:28:42.000 I'm like, that's, I'm like, you can see it.

01:28:44.000 That's what they're going to try to do is they're going to do what they did with the alt-right, where they're going to use that as like a dragnet for 28 when Vance is running and they're going to say, I think this is a neocon play and they're going to try and drag.

01:28:53.000 This is Groipers.

01:28:54.000 This is the woke right play.

01:28:55.000 This is what they say woke right.

01:28:56.000 It's a dragnet.

01:28:57.000 And it's they are proudly declaring that woke right means the same thing as alt-right.

01:29:04.000 It's a catch-all term to excise people from the right.

01:29:07.000 Yep.

01:29:08.000 So, I mean, you're just seeing the pincer set up right now.

01:29:08.000 Yeah.

01:29:11.000 And young people are, yeah, again, they've grown up in a world where it's like, why would you, if you're a centrist, that means you have some degree of loyalty to the system, some degree of wanting to uphold it.

01:29:21.000 And if you're like, again, like a post-COVID Zoomer, why would you be a centrist?

01:29:25.000 Like, what on earth has this system done to reward you in any way whatsoever?

01:29:30.000 It's a total joke.

01:29:31.000 So it's like, yeah, of course people are increasingly conservative, increasingly leftist.

01:29:35.000 It's like, yeah.

01:29:36.000 I mean, at least the people that are on the far left are also acknowledging something's wrong.

01:29:40.000 If you're genuinely interested in the Gen Z debate and like the direction that our nation is heading, I mean, Mark Mitchell has been doing a lot of interesting polling and just kind of, you know, message testing with Gen Z on like how they feel about these things.

01:29:53.000 And one thing that's really notable is, you know, Gen Z is not as concerned about like the policy debate and the press release and like the campaign sloganeering.

01:30:03.000 Like they care about outcomes.

01:30:05.000 And that's like when it comes to the Epstein file conversation, like we were talking about earlier, right?

01:30:09.000 Like the problem that comes with like after this and like why it's a continual sideshow is because there has to be accountability if there are problems, right?

01:30:17.000 And the American people just aren't used to seeing accountability from like the governing party right now.

01:30:23.000 And Gen Z says, okay, we just imported like 20 million illegal immigrants during the Biden administration.

01:30:30.000 Like who knows the actual number, right?

01:30:32.000 Like the actual number is not going to be reported.

01:30:34.000 But how many non-citizens do we have here that were probably on the terror watch list, right?

01:30:38.000 Like how many PRC guys like slipped through and are now plotting an attack of some sort, right?

01:30:45.000 Like you hear about these things all the time.

01:30:47.000 But why aren't we engaging in a full-on mass deportation effort?

01:30:50.000 That's what people want.

01:30:51.000 No, I don't think it's a coincidence that the Republican congresspeople who have gone soft on immigration are the same congress people who pushed the vote for the Epstein files.

01:31:01.000 That is Thomas Massey and again, Marjorie Taylor Greene have softened up their tones a lot on mass deportations.

01:31:07.000 And I don't think it's a coincidence.

01:31:08.000 What has Massey said about it?

01:31:09.000 Massey says that it's not like one of his big goals.

01:31:13.000 And he supports H-1B visas?

01:31:16.000 Got enough for me?

01:31:17.000 He maintains that.

01:31:17.000 And then Marjorie Taylor Greene said, like, oh, it's impractical for businesses, for big businesses to get rid of all these illegal immigrants.

01:31:23.000 And she recently did a media tour angling to that effect.

01:31:27.000 I thought she was critical of Trump's H-1Bs.

01:31:29.000 She doesn't think that we should be deporting as many people.

01:31:32.000 She doesn't think we'll be able to deport all the illegal immigrants. 0.60

01:31:34.000 And Massey supports H-1B visas.

01:31:37.000 She doesn't think that we will be able to.

01:31:37.000 Really?

01:31:39.000 I'll find the direct quote that we should.

01:31:41.000 I'll find the quote for you.

01:31:42.000 I feel like I've heard the opposite, but I don't know.

01:31:44.000 And I think they're, no, because they're counter signal.

01:31:44.000 Yeah, no.

01:31:46.000 Trump came out and said, we're going to give H-1Bs and we're going to do Chinese visas.

01:31:49.000 And Marjorie was like, no, I thought that she took the other.

01:31:53.000 I thought that's what Trump got mad at her.

01:31:54.000 He was like, oh, you know, she's texting me about this.

01:31:57.000 What did he say?

01:31:58.000 She keeps calling me.

01:31:58.000 And then Marjorie was like, no, I texted him about it.

01:32:01.000 One thing.

01:32:01.000 And it's like, regardless of the GOP with young right-wing guys, the priority is immigration.

01:32:06.000 That's like what we see.

01:32:07.000 That's what's affecting us directly.

01:32:09.000 And a lot of people like will come onto the show or they'll go into the Zeitgeist in general.

01:32:13.000 And they're like, the deficit's the biggest issue.

01:32:15.000 And it's like, I get that, but that's not how you win.

01:32:19.000 I mean, the America Party, that was the whole idea is like worry about money.

01:32:22.000 And it's like, dude, we're like, Costco's a disaster.

01:32:25.000 I was thinking about our costs here.

01:32:28.000 And, you know, I started to look into it and I realized that if I replaced Phil, Elad, and Tate with H-1Bs from India, this show would be a lot cheaper to run and surge, of course. 1.00

01:32:37.000 And it would be a very, very interesting political show that I think would be worth pursuing.

01:32:45.000 We actually had a joke about this a few years ago where we wanted to open.

01:32:49.000 Actually, we can do this with AI now.

01:32:51.000 The only problem, you know what really is a mess about the AI stuff like Sora is I'm Tim Poole and I own the rights to this.

01:32:57.000 And when I go to Sora and say like, make an episode of IRL, like I put a video in of me, it's like, this is copyright protected.

01:33:02.000 It won't let me do it.

01:33:03.000 And I'm like, it's me.

01:33:04.000 But, you know, so same thing when it comes to all that remains in music.

01:33:04.000 It's me.

01:33:08.000 Right.

01:33:08.000 Yeah.

01:33:10.000 I'm like, I own it.

01:33:11.000 So the recent comments I was referring to with Marjorie Taylor Greene was her criticizing the ways that the immigration raids are going.

01:33:18.000 She's saying that there needs to be a more humane way to conduct ICE raids was her criticism.

01:33:23.000 Okay, well, that's different than saying that she doesn't support deportations.

01:33:27.000 There was more.

01:33:28.000 Because to be honest with you, I mean, people might say the same thing about me while I don't agree with her.

01:33:34.000 I do think that the optics of the ICE raids can end up causing problems for actually deporting people because you get squishy, left-leaning liberal women. 1.00

01:33:44.000 They scream and yell because it looks like you're hurting people.

01:33:48.000 I also have this quote about Marjorie Tellger and the Rift talking about how the Epstein rift.

01:33:52.000 And she said, quote, this has been one of the most destructive things to MAGA is watching the man we supported early on three elections oppose the bill, she told reporters, watching this actually turn into a fight has ripped MEGA apart and a lot Eligal who has no idea what he's talking about.

01:34:08.000 The last part I made up, just so you guys are aware.

01:34:10.000 Okay, so she also said as a business owner in the construction industry that we need to be realists about labor and create a smarter plan in the business industry and the labor and the construction industry around immigration.

01:34:20.000 So she's virtue signaling that we're trying too aggressively to deport illegal immigrants from construction sites in particular.

01:34:27.000 She came up in the construction business.

01:34:29.000 Her family has a lot of construction business.

01:34:30.000 Is it against the rules of YouTube for me to say we should deport Elad?

01:34:34.000 Why would you want to deport me, Tim?

01:34:36.000 Back to Israel. 0.93

01:34:36.000 Just for the comedy. 0.93

01:34:37.000 I'm from Long Island, baby.

01:34:39.000 Just for the lulls.

01:34:41.000 I'm from Long Island.

01:34:42.000 I think I'm just as American as apple pie.

01:34:44.000 Send you to the past.

01:34:44.000 Yeah, well, Peter Staten Island wants to secede from New York.

01:34:47.000 Sure, nobody gives a crap about Staten Island. 0.80

01:34:50.000 So they should be able to secede from New York. 0.97

01:34:50.000 Agreed? 0.97

01:34:53.000 They don't want to be part of Kami Mamdani's Utopia.

01:34:55.000 Yeah, you can tell.

01:34:56.000 I don't know, Ovil Staten on.

01:34:57.000 You lose the impractical jokers, and you'll be regretting that.

01:35:00.000 All of this rhetoric about deporting me and Heritage Americans and what it means to be an American.

01:35:04.000 It makes me think I might be first in the camp if we build them.

01:35:06.000 I don't know.

01:35:08.000 What is an American?

01:35:09.000 What makes somebody an American citizen?

01:35:10.000 Tim's here talking about deporting me. 0.99

01:35:12.000 I thought he was hiding me in the attic if shit hit the fan. 0.95

01:35:14.000 I guess I'm first in the chambers. 0.99

01:35:16.000 People like to say, oh, I'm first in the gulag.

01:35:18.000 No, no, no.

01:35:18.000 I'm seriously first.

01:35:20.000 You'll be like, near the end.

01:35:21.000 And they're saying Ryan is probably going to be the first one to take me.

01:35:24.000 You misunderstand me.

01:35:24.000 I'm reading about him.

01:35:27.000 When it hits the fan, I'm going to be sitting with Tate going, wait for the green.

01:35:32.000 And you're going to be sitting there with a stone cold look on your face.

01:35:35.000 No, no, everybody knows I really pulled the strings.

01:35:37.000 You'll be one of the last.

01:35:38.000 We love you so much.

01:35:39.000 When we start the Heritage American Re-education Camp, she'll be like, come on. 0.97

01:35:43.000 Don't worry, Aladdin.

01:35:44.000 Under the floorboards.

01:35:45.000 Okay, good.

01:35:46.000 And then that'll be more the scene where you're looking up at the feet and then you can run to the fields.

01:35:50.000 You know, we'll make sure you get away.

01:35:51.000 Or disavow everything, by the way.

01:35:54.000 I'm saying we'll protect our friends.

01:35:55.000 We're going to protect our friend.

01:35:57.000 That's right.

01:35:57.000 It's safe under the floorboards.

01:35:58.000 There's a plugout shelter down there.

01:35:59.000 What we'll do is we're going to shave his mustache and head and then teach him how to speak with a southern accent.

01:36:05.000 And then, you know.

01:36:08.000 Although, to be fair, Sean did think you were Indian.

01:36:10.000 You know, that's the first time I got that.

01:36:12.000 Let's not get into Sean.

01:36:15.000 All right, everybody.

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01:38:35.000 All right, let's see what y'all have to say.

01:38:37.000 We got some great questions here.

01:38:39.000 Kremit says, Phil, do you think James Lindsay will regret his lies and commie-style propaganda if he helps Dems get back in power?

01:38:46.000 He's trying to balance a scale with the fate of the country on the line, reckless.

01:38:51.000 I have no idea or no claim to what James Lindsay is thinking nowadays.

01:38:56.000 Well, I'm a Marxist plant, apparently. 0.97

01:38:58.000 Yeah, it's silly. 0.89

01:39:00.000 And then he denied he said it. 0.99

01:39:01.000 It's like it's psycho babble.

01:39:01.000 It's the weirdest.

01:39:03.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:39:04.000 I never said that.

01:39:04.000 And I'm like, here's a screenshot of his Marxist.

01:39:07.000 He said, possibly a plant.

01:39:08.000 Marxists always lie or something like that.

01:39:10.000 I still think that Jim has done a lot of important work in the past.

01:39:15.000 And I'm very, very thankful that he had a time where he was, you know, being very vocal about the left and stuff.

01:39:23.000 I do think that his estimations now are off base.

01:39:30.000 I'm not sure why he's behaving the way that he is.

01:39:34.000 It's pretty simple, actually.

01:39:35.000 I think he's anti-Israel.

01:39:39.000 So, but you laugh.

01:39:40.000 But here's what's funny.

01:39:41.000 You can't pinpoint what he's doing.

01:39:43.000 It seems incoherent.

01:39:45.000 Right?

01:39:46.000 To a degree, yeah. 1.00

01:39:47.000 His track record is infiltrating organizations, utilize their create arguments that make them look like idiots and then trick them into publishing them. 0.99

01:39:56.000 He has done this over and over again. 0.99

01:39:57.000 It is his claim to fame. 1.00

01:39:59.000 Now he is seemingly aligned with the pro-Israel side saying the stupidest garbled nonsense imaginable. 1.00

01:40:05.000 He called Mary Morgan a woke right. 1.00

01:40:08.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 Mary talks about dating and pop culture.

01:40:11.000 It's just incoherent psychobabble.

01:40:13.000 When you, Phil, who've watched him, are saying, I don't understand what he's saying, I think it's clear to say the simple solution is a man who intentionally infiltrates groups to present a fake argument that makes them look bad is probably doing the same thing right now because the pro-Israel side, like when you look at Konstantin Kaisen and Seth Dylan, and they're saying woke right means people who believe that Jews are oppressing them, you're like, I understand the point you're making. 0.80

01:40:40.000 When James Lindsay comes out and then says, I should be in charge of the national movement and conservatives are bad and Mary is woke right, you go, this guy seems insane. 0.96

01:40:49.000 These people that are claiming woke right are nuts.

01:40:51.000 And that's basically been what he's what he's doing. 0.94

01:40:54.000 He's doing effectively the same thing he did to academia, but to the neo, the neocon, pro-Israel conservative.

01:41:00.000 Like, right.

01:41:02.000 I think he's describing like traditionalists as that.

01:41:07.000 Like, well, look, I think if you look at what he's.

01:41:10.000 You don't want him on your side a lot.

01:41:12.000 That's the point.

01:41:12.000 I think he's gatekeeping.

01:41:13.000 Yeah.

01:41:14.000 I think that maybe gatekeeping is kind of accurate.

01:41:17.000 I think that he is looking at the pendulum that has swung to the right, and he still considers himself a liberal.

01:41:24.000 And he thinks that too much influence from the right will be a bad thing for liberalism in the United States.

01:41:32.000 And I think that he doesn't want to see liberalism fall out of favor.

01:41:36.000 I think that he still thinks that liberalism is the proper political ideology.

01:41:42.000 Greed.

01:41:43.000 And liberals are anti-Israel.

01:41:46.000 Well, I mean, it depends.

01:41:48.000 So when I think liberal, I think he's talking about what you would call a classical.

01:41:53.000 A traditional liberal who was like, wasn't it like a polyamorous relationship or something?

01:41:59.000 Is now all of a sudden aligned with neocons?

01:42:02.000 I don't believe it.

01:42:03.000 I think if you put him and a neocon in a room 15 years ago, they'd be arguing the whole time. 0.94

01:42:08.000 So it's surprising now that once again, the guy's famous for infiltrating groups is aligning himself with neoconservative, pro-Israel groups and making them look like they're retarded. 0.98

01:42:17.000 I think it's just like, guys, this is what he does.

01:42:20.000 Why are you acting like all of a sudden he's just incoherent? 0.98

01:42:22.000 The man historically has been, he infiltrates the left, makes them publish an incoherent argument, and then everyone makes fun of them for saying something dumb.

01:42:30.000 And now he's got neocons doing it, and everyone's like, he's serious.

01:42:33.000 I'm like, no, he's just anti-Israel.

01:42:35.000 And that's funny.

01:42:36.000 He's allowed to be.

01:42:37.000 Let's read some more super chats.

01:42:39.000 All right.

01:42:40.000 I identify as tax exempt says, does the Epstein files release include the files from the intelligence agencies?

01:42:46.000 I believe it's technically supposed to.

01:42:49.000 Whether it will, that's another question.

01:42:50.000 So, a couple of things on those Epstein files that are being released.

01:42:53.000 I believe that there are different judiciaries in New York and Florida that have their own associated Epstein files that will not be included in this legislative Epstein file drop.

01:43:05.000 There's also the Jeffrey Epstein estate that has separate documents.

01:43:09.000 So, I suspect, again, we will be seeing a drip of more Epstein info in the future, and this is not the end of it.

01:43:15.000 It'll never be the end of it.

01:43:17.000 All right.

01:43:17.000 Sinek says: if redactions can only be for national security, if whatever they release any redactions, then it is essentially confirmed this was some CIA Mossad blackmail scandal, and our government allowed children to be abused.

01:43:30.000 That is a huge leap.

01:43:32.000 For all we know, it could be they're aliens, and they're redacting it because aliens were kidnapping kids.

01:43:36.000 I mean, I think it's your scenario is more likely, but if there are redactions for national security, it could be because there's a name of an agent that's passively mentioned because they provided some evidence in the file.

01:43:49.000 So, put it this way: they could say, I spoke with agent redacted about information they provided from a witness who had at one point been working with an associate of Epstein's.

01:43:59.000 That doesn't mean the redaction proves the intelligent agent was involved.

01:44:03.000 So, there's likely going to be redactions in that regard.

01:44:05.000 It's not a guarantee.

01:44:08.000 All right.

01:44:09.000 Rajor says, I firmly think he says McGee.

01:44:12.000 He puts emphasis on the E part, not on the P, like you usually would.

01:44:15.000 Plus, she's skinny and Trump isn't blind.

01:44:18.000 It looks like McGee.

01:44:20.000 Piggy's more fun.

01:44:22.000 Yeah, I mean, what was her name?

01:44:23.000 Her name was Lucy, Catherine Lucy.

01:44:26.000 Why would he say McGee?

01:44:28.000 And people are claiming it's Peggy.

01:44:29.000 I'm like, no, her name is Catherine Lucy.

01:44:31.000 I'm going with Piggy.

01:44:32.000 Yeah, Piggy is hilarious.

01:44:33.000 Long on Piggy.

01:44:35.000 Is anyone at this point not going to vote for Trump because he called a woman Piggy?

01:44:39.000 No.

01:44:39.000 I don't think it's.

01:44:40.000 One guy.

01:44:41.000 One guy's like, what?

01:44:42.000 He'll never be on the ball.

01:44:43.000 This is the last straw.

01:44:44.000 That's it.

01:44:46.000 Hoppin' Spatches says Tim often talks about how bad and brain-dead kids' shows are.

01:44:51.000 And he's absolutely right.

01:44:52.000 But I would encourage you and your wife sample bluey.

01:44:55.000 It is a very good exception to the rule, pro family.

01:44:57.000 My child will not be watching anthropomorphized animals.

01:45:01.000 That's not, that's, no, she's going to watch 90 Day Fiancé and the five.

01:45:08.000 Don't forget the view.

01:45:09.000 No.

01:45:10.000 Oh, boy.

01:45:10.000 No, my daughter literally watches only 90 Day Fiancé and the Five.

01:45:13.000 No way.

01:45:15.000 Okay, so when my wife is watching TV, she watches 90 Day Fiancé. 1.00

01:45:19.000 I call it Married to Strangers.

01:45:20.000 And then when I come in, I turn the five on.

01:45:23.000 And so she's not really watching, but this is what's on the TV.

01:45:26.000 We're not going to do any kids' content.

01:45:28.000 This psychobabble, hallucinogenic DMT trip cartoon stuff for kids is nuts and a bad idea.

01:45:36.000 And that's why we got a bunch of trans furries running around. 1.00

01:45:39.000 I'm not joking.

01:45:40.000 Dude.

01:45:40.000 Not good for your kids.

01:45:41.000 I like that theory.

01:45:42.000 I like that.

01:45:43.000 I think it's true.

01:45:45.000 I think children are trying to emulate and create an identity, and they're looking to people around them.

01:45:51.000 And parents put them in front of TVs or tablets where all of the interaction, communication is coming from anthropomorphized animals.

01:45:57.000 And then when they get older, furries aren't dressing like animals.

01:46:01.000 They're dressing like cartoon animals.

01:46:03.000 They identify as a cartoon animal.

01:46:05.000 And I think obvious people go, Tim, not everybody does that.

01:46:08.000 Of course, not everybody.

01:46:09.000 Some are affected by it.

01:46:10.000 Some aren't.

01:46:11.000 That's just it.

01:46:12.000 I think that's true.

01:46:13.000 None of that stuff is bad for kids.

01:46:14.000 Bad for kids.

01:46:15.000 All right, let's grab some more super chats.

01:46:18.000 Again, smash that like button. 0.95

01:46:20.000 What do we got?

01:46:21.000 Wyatt Kaldenberg says after JFK's death, the Dems got a huge sympathy vote.

01:46:25.000 The neocons falsely blamed the 1964 election on Barry Goldwater and the populist right and purged the right.

01:46:30.000 We're in the middle of another purge.

01:46:33.000 Well, okay.

01:46:34.000 It was a long time ago.

01:46:34.000 I wouldn't know.

01:46:37.000 Arsena says, Muslim Americans who backed Trump three times and rallied others.

01:46:41.000 This is normal politics.

01:46:42.000 People return when they need you.

01:46:44.000 Join any fight only if it aligns with what you believe and will make America better.

01:46:48.000 This is what Democrats are doing.

01:46:50.000 The reason why they're attacking white people is because they're basically like, hey, you know that group of white people? 0.58

01:46:56.000 How do I get Latinos, you know, Muslims, Asians, black people to come together? 0.79

01:47:02.000 What do I offer them? 1.00

01:47:03.000 White people, bad. 1.00

01:47:04.000 None of you like white people? 0.99

01:47:05.000 Okay, good. 0.93

01:47:06.000 That's the offer.

01:47:07.000 That's why left has gone that route because they're trying to build a coalition of various minorities, and the only thing you can offer them as a lowest common denominator is another group to hate.

01:47:15.000 And then I guess the left argues that the right is arguing minorities as a whole or whatever.

01:47:21.000 All right, that one gamer says there's more drugs coming from Mexico and Colombia than Venezuela.

01:47:25.000 Mexico is asking for help from the U.S., Russia, et cetera, to fight cartels.

01:47:29.000 Thoughts on actually doing good instead of another Iraqi oil run.

01:47:33.000 Did you guys see that the Mexican president was attacking a senator who said that the intervention from Trump would be good?

01:47:38.000 And she said this is, what did she call it?

01:47:39.000 Treason or something?

01:47:41.000 That a senator was calling for a foreign intervention into their own country.

01:47:44.000 Yeah, not to mention she had like the auspice around her election was weird.

01:47:47.000 She got in.

01:47:48.000 There was like tons of political assassinations leading up to her win.

01:47:53.000 And yeah, the environment in Mexico is crying out, I think, for some sort of intervention, I would say.

01:47:59.000 Monroe Doctrine, that's our neighborhood.

01:48:01.000 If you've got...

01:48:02.000 Monroe 2.0.

01:48:02.000 What was that?

01:48:04.000 Yeah.

01:48:04.000 Look, if you've got a narco government at your southern border that continues to funnel in people and drugs and stuff, it is a national security threat.

01:48:17.000 I think the thing that the super chatter was hinting on, though, is that the drug problem mostly isn't coming from Venezuela, although Venezuela may be sending some drugs, but the administration is having a disproportionate response to that.

01:48:29.000 I know one of their reasons for attacking all these drug boats have been the drug issue, allegedly, but many other people think that they're just trying to overthrow and apply pressure to the Maduro regime, which they consistently call illegitimate and say that he is illegitimate and narco-dictator, narco-terrorist.

01:48:45.000 It's also justified.

01:48:46.000 It's in our neighborhood.

01:48:47.000 They cause a lot of problems.

01:48:48.000 I mean, like, there's so many documentaries exposing these CCP camps that are in Venezuela, and they train these people to come up through.

01:48:55.000 Like, you shut that down.

01:48:56.000 That's going to alleviate a lot of these illegal immigration problems because, again, Venezuela aids a lot of these caravans that come in.

01:49:03.000 Granted, the Darien Gap's been like the crossings across the Darien Gap is wild, which is remarkable.

01:49:09.000 I totally agree that Venezuela requires some intervention, but I just think it's fascinating because the people who would usually bitch about neocons are still supportive of us being involved in Venezuela.

01:49:19.000 Which, again, by the way, I am fully supportive of.

01:49:22.000 There's nuance there, though, right?

01:49:25.000 It's about primacy in our hemisphere, right?

01:49:28.000 Between 2021 and 2023, more Americans died from opioids than World War I, Korea, and Vietnam.

01:49:36.000 Correct, but we're not getting Venezuela.

01:49:38.000 The heroin and fentanyl is mostly not coming from Venezuela.

01:49:42.000 It's coming from Colombia and Mexico.

01:49:44.000 So when it comes to Venezuela in particular, this isn't particularly about drugs.

01:49:48.000 Most of the drugs that are coming into this country via the southern border are not coming from Venezuela.

01:49:53.000 China.

01:49:54.000 Yeah, China.

01:49:55.000 China to Colombia to Mexico.

01:49:57.000 But again, the point is they're hitting drug traffickers on boats in the ocean.

01:50:01.000 Like, that's what they're doing.

01:50:02.000 They're not going and ransacking the capital of Venezuela.

01:50:05.000 And Venezuela is an outpost.

01:50:06.000 Well, it's also one of the big reasons that we would invade Venezuela or are encouraging them to overthrow the Maduro regime is about oil.

01:50:14.000 It's totally about oil.

01:50:15.000 And the market's the global commodity of oil and trying to discourage Russian oil from exporting further if we could decrease the price of oil because they have the biggest reserves in the southern hemisphere.

01:50:25.000 The geopolitical incentive is way stronger than the resource incentive.

01:50:28.000 There's no question about that.

01:50:29.000 It's like if it was about oil, we would have invaded the people. 0.65

01:50:31.000 I just think people use neocons for a long time.

01:50:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:50:35.000 Well, I think we have been before.

01:50:37.000 We would have never left.

01:50:40.000 Obama would have, if it was just oil.

01:50:42.000 But let's, and things have, I don't think people realize that, you know, what, 12 years ago, Venezuela was U.S. visa on entry.

01:50:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:50:51.000 The tensions were not this crazy.

01:50:52.000 You didn't need a visa.

01:50:52.000 You could just show up.

01:50:53.000 You could literally just walk to the board and be like, hi, and they'd be like, Bookman?

01:50:56.000 Yeah.

01:50:57.000 It was getting crazy.

01:50:58.000 Yeah, and a neocon is someone like obsessed with Iran.

01:51:01.000 Your own neighborhoods.

01:51:02.000 We got Maureen.

01:51:02.000 All right.

01:51:02.000 Okay.

01:51:04.000 Maureen 98 says, didn't the judge dictate that the DOJ could only release certain portions of the Epstein files?

01:51:08.000 How is that going to work with Congress pass with Congress passing and release everything?

01:51:12.000 A judge going to say that Trump can't release the files the Congress approved.

01:51:16.000 That's interesting because Congress should have the final say.

01:51:19.000 But a judge is supposed to provide a check. 0.99

01:51:21.000 So one theory is that Trump is saying, fine, release it because he knows the judges are going to be like, we won't let this come out.

01:51:26.000 And then Trump takes the heat off himself by being like, I said to release it and we all voted for it.

01:51:30.000 And then a judge blocked it.

01:51:31.000 Don't look at me.

01:51:34.000 All right.

01:51:35.000 We got Mike Londicos.

01:51:37.000 He says, I feel that TPUSA are upset with your comments because they did have something to do with Kirk's death.

01:51:43.000 It's called a guilty conscience.

01:51:46.000 I don't think that's the case.

01:51:47.000 You had something to do with it?

01:51:49.000 No, they're saying TPSA did.

01:51:50.000 Oh, okay.

01:51:51.000 They're saying comments are saying that the reason Turning Point's mad at me is because they were involved.

01:51:55.000 I don't think that's true.

01:51:56.000 There was a video people keep sending me where it's a guy going over turning points, 990 forms.

01:52:03.000 And this is why, I'm sorry, I can't stand conspiracy videos.

01:52:06.000 So this guy goes, the filings for this year are missing.

01:52:13.000 They're not missing.

01:52:14.000 It's unavailable.

01:52:15.000 There's a difference.

01:52:16.000 Missing would imply that they should be there and they're not.

01:52:19.000 Or that it implies this is strange, missing.

01:52:24.000 What's going on?

01:52:25.000 And unavailable could just mean that they filed in October.

01:52:28.000 It's been about one month.

01:52:29.000 They've not yet been posted in these networks.

01:52:32.000 There is an interesting point that these videos have been bringing up.

01:52:35.000 A bunch of podcasts are popping up about their 990s because the theory, I think this largely stems from Candace saying that Charlie wanted a Doge style audit a week before he was murdered.

01:52:47.000 And now their tax filings didn't come in in October or something.

01:52:52.000 For the first time, this is what one of the arguments is.

01:52:54.000 For the first time, every year they filed four 990 forms, nonprofit tax forms, May 15th.

01:53:02.000 This year they missed it.

01:53:03.000 So it was an October extension that's not yet in.

01:53:06.000 He goes, they're missing.

01:53:07.000 And I'm like, no, they're just not yet available.

01:53:09.000 We don't know what that means.

01:53:10.000 But that's why I can't stand.

01:53:11.000 And then he goes, Charlie said he wanted a Doge style audit.

01:53:15.000 But Tyler Boer said that they do an audit every year.

01:53:19.000 So he's saying they're not going to do it.

01:53:21.000 And they're defying Charlie's wishes.

01:53:22.000 And I'm like, no, no, he literally didn't say that.

01:53:24.000 He said they do the audit every year.

01:53:26.000 And so that's why I'm like, guys, there are some interesting questions about why these various turning point entities were funneling money through each other.

01:53:35.000 One of the things people brought up is that I don't know if this is true or not, but one of the arguments is that they created, there's turning point, turning point action, turning point endowment, and America's turning point.

01:53:45.000 And they were moving money between them.

01:53:47.000 Some of this is totally legit normal.

01:53:49.000 But there's one of these podcasts saying Charlie was getting a salary from each of them around a quarter million to $300,000, meaning that if you looked at the 990 filings for TPUSA, you'd see Charlie getting 300,000 because you didn't know these other entities existed.

01:54:03.000 But if you looked at him, you'd see Charlie was actually making over a million.

01:54:05.000 I don't know if that's true, and I don't know what the point is that they're bringing it up to insinuate about Charlie, but I certainly think he deserved to get paid from his own companies.

01:54:12.000 But as to the greater point, we didn't talk about it, and we'll talk a little bit about it in the uncensored portion of the show.

01:54:18.000 But the latest update, because I'm not trying to be big on drama, but we were not invited back to Amfest.

01:54:27.000 And so there was some, I guess, back and forth, drama, whatever you want to call it.

01:54:32.000 And then ultimately I decided I had to pull the trigger on what our plans were for the end of the year.

01:54:37.000 And so I was going to make a video explaining that we weren't invited.

01:54:40.000 They have since said, no, like, please, we want you to come.

01:54:43.000 And they're trying to get us to come.

01:54:44.000 There's a lot more details involved in this.

01:54:46.000 I think in all likelihood, we're not going to be there.

01:54:50.000 But I do want to be fair and just mention that many people have reached out to me saying that they're clearing space for us.

01:54:55.000 They're going to move speakers.

01:54:58.000 The long story short is there's a lot to the story.

01:55:01.000 I was told that I'd made hurtful comments, so they weren't going to have us back.

01:55:04.000 What are those comments where I don't know?

01:55:06.000 I mean, I have a general idea, but I don't think that makes sense that they were hurtful.

01:55:09.000 And then they booked people in the slot we were going to have, so we weren't coming.

01:55:14.000 And then only recently decided maybe we should move these speakers and reopen the slot.

01:55:18.000 But I'm like, this is weird.

01:55:20.000 This is crazy.

01:55:21.000 Like, I can't do this.

01:55:22.000 And we're less than a month out.

01:55:24.000 There's not going to be hotels.

01:55:24.000 I can't spend 20 grand.

01:55:26.000 And late, like, we've tried really hard.

01:55:28.000 And now I think the response we're getting in terms of, no, no, we'll have you there is largely due to potential negativity around the event and why we weren't invited.

01:55:37.000 And I was asked by many people not to talk about it when the issue had come up that we weren't yet invited.

01:55:43.000 And I was told constantly, just wait, just wait, just wait until it's less than a month away.

01:55:49.000 And then I was explicitly told, well, you know, we weren't planning on having you back because you made hurtful comments.

01:55:52.000 And I'm like, okay, guys, just tell me that and I'm gone.

01:55:55.000 I think they didn't want me to do a video and be like, hey, guys, here's what's happening.

01:55:59.000 We're not going to be there.

01:55:59.000 I know that we promoted the event and told people to buy tickets, but we're not there.

01:56:02.000 I'll go into greater detail in the uncensored portion of the show.

01:56:05.000 So I'll say that there because I'm not trying to do a big drama thing.

01:56:08.000 The reason I did the video is because I thought it was important that as we had promoted the event, us not being there was important for anybody who expected to see us there.

01:56:15.000 And I recommend you guys go.

01:56:18.000 Don't let us stand in the way of whatever that is.

01:56:21.000 So let's go to some more.

01:56:24.000 The Coco Nino says, Tim, solution to housing and wealth gap.

01:56:28.000 All sales of homes to first-time homebuyers pay zero tax, no income, no capital gains.

01:56:33.000 Construction becomes profitable overnight.

01:56:36.000 So one of the issues is supply.

01:56:38.000 Where we are, it's crazy that they're building a mass amount of houses and we have no idea who's supposed to move into them.

01:56:46.000 Yeah.

01:56:47.000 This is really weird.

01:56:49.000 I mean, Trump's curtailed immigration and the birth rate is down.

01:56:51.000 So why are they building houses?

01:56:52.000 I think the Fed is likely giving funds to construction companies to build houses to prop up the economy.

01:57:01.000 I think it's a big scheme to create fake jobs.

01:57:05.000 This is going to lend itself to inflation because they're injecting money into the system.

01:57:08.000 But I don't understand how they're building as many houses as they're building.

01:57:11.000 I guess I think the idea, bring down prices.

01:57:16.000 I think the idea is the Fed gives, creates money upon the issues of debt to a construction company, a loan, which they can use to hire people to build a house.

01:57:24.000 So those people have cash and then go to the grocery store. 0.88

01:57:27.000 And this creates an artificial lubrication in the economy.

01:57:31.000 And to be fair, it is true that we are constrained on supply for housing.

01:57:34.000 Yeah, I think a lot of the demand side that they're trying to solve, it really comes down to supply because we could change how the mortgage is done and whatnot.

01:57:42.000 But if the supply stays the same, then prices will not go down.

01:57:45.000 I mean, a lot of the supply side problem will be solved by mass deportations.

01:57:49.000 And then, like, there's incentives that have to come into play.

01:57:49.000 Totally.

01:57:52.000 I mean, we should be thinking about what kind of housing do we want developers to build because they're being incentivized to build the wrong kinds of things.

01:57:58.000 I mean, everybody's thinking in high-rises, not homes, right?

01:58:01.000 And then, like, I think to the Super Chat point, like, I think that's an interesting idea.

01:58:06.000 I think there should be more creative solutions that were thrown at the wall and seeing what sticks right now on like for first-time homebuyers.

01:58:12.000 I mean, should they be at the front of the line in considerations as it pertains to state law for like purchasing homes?

01:58:17.000 Why are corporate entities getting?

01:58:19.000 I got an idea.

01:58:19.000 Yeah.

01:58:20.000 Instead of SNAP, how about you get a tax deduction commensurate with what you would have received for food benefits?

01:58:29.000 We don't give you money.

01:58:30.000 Just don't take taxes from you.

01:58:33.000 That means you have to work and you get to keep more of your money if you need it.

01:58:38.000 I suppose the problem is people at poverty are paying zero taxes anyway.

01:58:42.000 And I think a system like this is inherently problematic when only the hardest working people are paying the taxes for everybody else.

01:58:51.000 You have a guaranteed breakdown of the system where people eventually say there is a diminishing return on my labor.

01:58:56.000 And then high-merit people stop working and low-merit people keep demanding from the system and then it pops.

01:59:06.000 Yeah.

01:59:06.000 And there you go.

01:59:08.000 All right.

01:59:09.000 What do we got?

01:59:10.000 Eric Miller says, how do you know it's a cult?

01:59:11.000 Trump calls a reporter piggy.

01:59:13.000 The entire mainstream media squeals.

01:59:15.000 So true.

01:59:16.000 I mean, it's a good point.

01:59:17.000 That's what I was saying.

01:59:17.000 They got the call.

01:59:18.000 The media was like, this is our story.

01:59:20.000 Everybody run with it.

01:59:21.000 To be fair, I did too.

01:59:23.000 I saw that story and it was going viral.

01:59:25.000 I'm like, I guess I'll make a video about it.

01:59:26.000 And I laughed and said, Trump is right.

01:59:28.000 And I said, is it presidential for Trump to call a reporter piggy?

01:59:31.000 I say yes.

01:59:32.000 It is now.

01:59:32.000 It's Trumpian, that's for sure.

01:59:34.000 Well, we need to be a bit more brutal of a people.

01:59:36.000 So true.

01:59:37.000 When Trump does something, it makes it presidential.

01:59:39.000 So the answer to the question is yes, it is.

01:59:41.000 McDonald's is aristocratic now.

01:59:43.000 Sorry.

01:59:44.000 What are you going to do?

01:59:45.000 Don't apologize.

01:59:47.000 It's true.

01:59:48.000 Millennial Mama says the process at Ellis Island was often two hours long and quite extensive.

01:59:52.000 Check out some of the questions they'd asked.

01:59:53.000 Dems would be aghast.

01:59:55.000 Okay.

01:59:56.000 Questions?

01:59:57.000 Actually, let's do this.

01:59:57.000 Let's ask our friend Grak.

01:59:59.000 Grack's faster.

02:00:00.000 What were some of the questions asked at Ellis Island?

02:00:06.000 Let's find out.

02:00:09.000 Let's see.

02:00:09.000 From 1892 to 1954, what is your name?

02:00:13.000 How old are you?

02:00:13.000 Male or female?

02:00:14.000 Uh-oh, already by question three.

02:00:17.000 The Democrats are losing it.

02:00:18.000 Single married widow, divorce, occupation.

02:00:20.000 Can you read or write?

02:00:21.000 Wow.

02:00:21.000 What's your nationality?

02:00:22.000 What's your race?

02:00:23.000 Where were you born?

02:00:24.000 Last permanent residence.

02:00:25.000 Who paid for your passage?

02:00:26.000 What's your final destination?

02:00:28.000 Nearest relative.

02:00:29.000 How much money do you have?

02:00:29.000 Show it.

02:00:30.000 Wow.

02:00:31.000 Have you ever been to the States before?

02:00:33.000 Are you going to join a friend or relative?

02:00:34.000 Are you a polygamist?

02:00:35.000 Are you an anarchist?

02:00:36.000 Have you been convicted of a crime?

02:00:37.000 Have you ever been to prison?

02:00:38.000 What is your physical and mental health condition?

02:00:41.000 Do you have any deformities?

02:00:42.000 Are you crippled or otherwise physically defective?

02:00:44.000 What's your height, complexion, color, hair, and eyes?

02:00:48.000 Identifying marks.

02:00:49.000 By whom were you invited?

02:00:50.000 Do you have a contract to work here arranged?

02:00:53.000 This is just me on a date.

02:00:56.000 You deformed? 0.98

02:00:56.000 What's like, what's your race? 0.98

02:00:58.000 Are you crippled?

02:00:59.000 Yeah, what's your race? 0.57

02:01:00.000 Are you Indian?

02:01:01.000 You have money?

02:01:01.000 Show me.

02:01:02.000 Show me.

02:01:04.000 I wonder how many.

02:01:04.000 May I meet you?

02:01:07.000 I wonder how many of those questions today Americans would say they would support being asked.

02:01:11.000 All of them.

02:01:12.000 Except for the Democrats being like, what does male and female even mean? 0.66

02:01:14.000 I mean, how do you ask someone that?

02:01:16.000 You have to assume their gender?

02:01:17.000 Republican may be fine with all of the questions and for Democrats to be like, oh, no, all those are racist.

02:01:22.000 All those are hurtful.

02:01:23.000 I thought they'd be more patriotic, frankly.

02:01:25.000 I'm relatively unimpressed.

02:01:27.000 I wonder if there was like, I thought there would be a loyalty pledge or something like that in there.

02:01:31.000 I'm disappointed that they didn't ask about communism.

02:01:34.000 They only asked.

02:01:35.000 Only anarchy.

02:01:36.000 Well, this is for entry, not citizenship, right?

02:01:38.000 And like, also, I don't know what conflicts were going on.

02:01:40.000 It's like, are you coming from X, Y, or Z?

02:01:42.000 1880s, communism was even really like the Zeitgeist's Modge.

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02:02:26.000 For the record for posterity, I don't think a lot should be deported.

02:02:29.000 I love a lot.

02:02:30.000 The greatest.

02:02:30.000 Plus one.

02:02:31.000 Seems like a pretty good deal.

02:02:32.000 You've convinced me, Titan.

02:02:33.000 Re-education is still on the table, but deportation, no.

02:02:36.000 If I get deported, are you bringing me back on the H-1B?

02:02:38.000 That's right.

02:02:40.000 Timothy.

02:02:41.000 He endorses H-1B visas.

02:02:42.000 You can be 0-1.

02:02:43.000 I think you're that guy.

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02:02:50.000 We had 30 minutes of English news, British news, rather, 30 minutes of American news, and then we do an interview on Sunday.

02:02:56.000 So be on the lookout this weekend.

02:02:57.000 We're going to have a great show for you, freshing up the presentation a little bit.

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02:03:02.000 So keep an eye on that.

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02:04:41.000 Restroom. 0.84

02:04:42.000 Yeah, that's for sure.

02:04:43.000 Routed.

02:04:44.000 And because it is, we're not seeing it on the forefront anymore.

02:04:46.000 So the right has become more infighty.

02:04:49.000 So basically, when we look outside, we don't see, you know, like a gigantic man in a wig anymore.

02:04:56.000 Totally.

02:04:56.000 These stories still do happen.

02:04:58.000 People are kind of tired of them, but we've largely won, and people agree, don't do it.

02:05:01.000 So then someone's like, if that's not a problem, then they go down the list.

02:05:05.000 And the next question is, Israel.

02:05:07.000 And now you're seeing the interventionist, anti-interventionist, you know, coming to blows.

02:05:12.000 But I said this before, I'll say it again.

02:05:16.000 I think that Charlie Kirk was a major component of why there was unity.

02:05:23.000 You know, I saw that story where Candace revealed a text message from Charlie and he had said something about Ben.

02:05:28.000 I don't know exactly what was said or whatever.

02:05:30.000 But when I saw that, I was like, Charlie was probably, it's like this.

02:05:34.000 You guys are fighting, and you stole his coffee.

02:05:39.000 Ryan stole Phil's coffee.

02:05:41.000 And so I go to Ryan, I'm like, whoa, what's going on? 1.00

02:05:43.000 And you're like, this motherfucker, Phil, dude, fucking stole my coffee, dude. 1.00

02:05:47.000 I'm not going to stand for it. 1.00

02:05:47.000 I'm going to go fucking punch him in the face. 1.00

02:05:49.000 And I'd be like, no, no, no, bro, bro, bro. 1.00

02:05:50.000 Don't hit him.

02:05:51.000 I get it, dude. 1.00

02:05:51.000 Fuck Phil. 1.00

02:05:52.000 He stole your coffee. 1.00

02:05:53.000 I can't believe you would do that.

02:05:54.000 Let me deal with this.

02:05:55.000 I'll get you a new coffee.

02:05:57.000 Then I go to Phil and be like, yo, what's going on with you and Ryan?

02:05:59.000 And he goes, bro, that's my coffee.

02:06:01.000 He just thought it was his. 0.99

02:06:01.000 I don't know what the fuck's his problem. 0.99

02:06:03.000 And now he's threatening me. 1.00

02:06:04.000 I'm losing.

02:06:04.000 I go, no, no, no, bro, bro.

02:06:05.000 I get it. 1.00

02:06:05.000 Dude's an idiot. 1.00

02:06:06.000 Okay. 1.00

02:06:06.000 He's retarded. 1.00

02:06:07.000 Don't fight. 0.99

02:06:08.000 I feel you, bro.

02:06:09.000 No one's going to take your coffee.

02:06:11.000 I'll make sure you're good.

02:06:12.000 I'll take care of him.

02:06:13.000 Then Phil publishes a text message saying Tim called Ryan retarded.

02:06:18.000 And it's like the point was diplomacy to build rapport.

02:06:20.000 You tell someone, like, I get what you're saying.

02:06:24.000 I hear you about Ben.

02:06:25.000 Man, Ben can be like this.

02:06:27.000 And then it's like, see, Charlie hated Ben.

02:06:28.000 I was like, no, no.

02:06:30.000 He's trying to respect your perspective and tell you that he's there for you and he understands what you're saying.

02:06:36.000 He's not trying to go to war with Ben Shapiro.

02:06:38.000 I think it's fair to say, yes, he's admitting to a light grievance, but it's not because he hates Ben or wants to go to war with Ben.

02:06:45.000 It's because he wants there to be rapport.

02:06:47.000 And that turns into weaponization.

02:06:49.000 And, you know, which brings us to the bigger question of what's happening with Amfest and all of this stuff because I know people had questions and more questions will probably come up.

02:07:01.000 I'm friends with a bunch of people at Amfest.

02:07:02.000 We've always been.

02:07:04.000 And the simple version is we had been asking them, like, I'll say it again.

02:07:09.000 I said it earlier.

02:07:11.000 Two weeks before they murdered Charlie, I texted him 13 days.

02:07:15.000 And I said, you know, I wanted to get the details for IRL for Amfest this year.

02:07:19.000 We wanted to schedule things because we need to be able to book hotels.

02:07:23.000 And he says, let me text with team, get right back at you.

02:07:26.000 And I'm like, sounds good.

02:07:27.000 And then I didn't think it a big deal.

02:07:29.000 You know, I'd text Charlie again or whatever.

02:07:31.000 And then two weeks later, he was murdered.

02:07:33.000 So obviously our team is in contact with their team and we've done shows together.

02:07:37.000 And so, of course, we're all grieving together.

02:07:40.000 A couple weeks later, we just said, we're hearing a lot about Amfest.

02:07:43.000 We want to make sure we have the details because with all this chaos, we need to know what the plan is.

02:07:47.000 And we were told basically like, yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing's changed.

02:07:50.000 We're good.

02:07:51.000 We'll get back to you.

02:07:52.000 We went to two weeks after Charlie was murdered, two and a half weeks, I went to Phoenix and we did the show there.

02:08:00.000 And after we wrapped the first show, I again asked Andrew Colvett and there was another individual.

02:08:06.000 And I was like, hey, we're just trying to get the details.

02:08:08.000 You know, now that we're here, like, what's the schedule?

02:08:11.000 What's the plan for Amfest?

02:08:13.000 And I was told, same thing as always, nothing's changed.

02:08:16.000 And that is Tim Cast IRL time slot on stage on Friday.

02:08:20.000 That's what we've done for the past three years.

02:08:22.000 And Colvett mentioned it's rough.

02:08:25.000 We're trying to figure this out.

02:08:25.000 And I say, hey, look, man, whatever you guys need from us, we can do a shorter show if it's too heavy, too expensive, or maybe we'll do a show on the weekend so we can make sure.

02:08:34.000 I know it's a big show.

02:08:35.000 And they said, okay, cool.

02:08:36.000 We'll let you know.

02:08:39.000 We've asked like every week.

02:08:41.000 I sent texts.

02:08:42.000 We were getting ghosted.

02:08:43.000 Nobody was telling us.

02:08:44.000 And then the last conversation on the matter was Friday when I was speaking with Andrew Colvett and he told me that due to comments I had made that were hurtful, they weren't planning on having me back.

02:08:54.000 However, following that conversation, if I was still interested in going, he would try and make it happen.

02:09:00.000 It was a heavy lift, but I'll see if he can make it happen.

02:09:01.000 And I said, yes, absolutely, we want to go.

02:09:04.000 At the same time, there is another event that we were planning on going to in Vegas just before Amfest.

02:09:10.000 And so the schedule was going to be Vegas for first, the first Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, then drive to Phoenix four-hour drive and do Amfest.

02:09:17.000 And so that was the plan.

02:09:19.000 But the offer that we got from Vegas included free use of a studio.

02:09:23.000 They needed confirmation on dates and I needed ASAP.

02:09:26.000 So I, again, was texting with people at Turning Point, like, we really, really need to know what's going on because we're going to have what we have like 13 people who come to Phoenix for show production, scheduling, like just everything we do.

02:09:38.000 Like we bring our whole crew out.

02:09:40.000 And that means we're a month at and we're likely not going to get hotels.

02:09:43.000 And I don't know why we're not getting any details.

02:09:46.000 And then that was Friday.

02:09:49.000 This other organization, which I will have more announcements on once I confirm everything, was like, hey, we've got guests for you planned.

02:09:56.000 We need to let us know if you're confirmed.

02:09:59.000 And so on Monday, I was told, our booking person was told by the TPSA team, it's full and it's really hard to figure out how we can be involved at this point, but they're going to talk with the team and see if they can make it happen.

02:10:14.000 And so I spoke with a handful of people and I was like, okay, hold on.

02:10:17.000 We've been asking for months.

02:10:19.000 They know, and they told us the plan was the same.

02:10:22.000 This was our time slot.

02:10:23.000 They've now booked people for that time slot, told me that they weren't planning on having me back, but they keep telling us over and over again, we'll let you know, we'll let you know, we'll let you know.

02:10:34.000 I was like, guys, I don't think they're having us back.

02:10:36.000 I think they just don't want us to, like, they don't want there to be a big stink about us not coming.

02:10:41.000 So I talked with a handful of people in and outside of Turning Point.

02:10:45.000 Some people said, no, no, Tim, we have to have you.

02:10:47.000 This is an oversight and we'll correct it.

02:10:49.000 And I said, they've already filled the stage.

02:10:51.000 They've booked people where we normally would be doing the show.

02:10:54.000 So this just doesn't make sense anymore.

02:10:57.000 And I have to give an answer to this other organization in Vegas about what our plan's going to be with this show.

02:11:03.000 And there's prominent individuals that want to do a show.

02:11:04.000 And it's more normie-oriented, I would describe it.

02:11:06.000 I'll get a little bit more into it.

02:11:07.000 I will absolutely talk about what we're doing in Vegas, but I want to get through this first.

02:11:11.000 And so I talked with a handful of people.

02:11:14.000 There's, I'm trying not to be so derisive, but, you know, there's tumult in Turning Point.

02:11:21.000 Obviously, Charlie was doing a lot of the work.

02:11:23.000 And without him, things become a bit hectic.

02:11:26.000 And so having conversations with certain people, I said, I'm not doing this.

02:11:30.000 I'm not playing this game of you go, someone makes a phone call, then people argue with each other.

02:11:35.000 If the decision was we weren't going to be invited, and so the slot we normally had was filled up with other people, I have no problem whatsoever saying, it's been an honor of a lifetime.

02:11:45.000 Guys, have your party.

02:11:46.000 I wish you the best.

02:11:47.000 I hope everybody goes to Amfest and has a great time.

02:11:49.000 And if we weren't invited, I'm not going to, I'm a grown man.

02:11:52.000 I'm going to do my thing.

02:11:53.000 So I reached out to the Vegas organization said, looks like we're not on for Amfest.

02:12:00.000 So we're clear for the full week in Vegas.

02:12:02.000 We can use the studio.

02:12:04.000 They booked a prominent conservative and sports.

02:12:06.000 I say sports, but I'll let you.

02:12:09.000 I don't want to drag anybody, but we booked somebody who's prominent, well-known, and apparently is like a conservative living individual in the more normyist kind of space.

02:12:15.000 And I said, okay, this would be obviously on one of the days at Turning Point would be.

02:12:19.000 And there's an opportunity for some other prominent individuals, which is better in terms of a general audience than a political one.

02:12:27.000 And I think that's very good and important that we're doing events that bring us to a normie space so that we can get people involved, right?

02:12:36.000 So I decided, okay, we've confirmed this.

02:12:39.000 We're confirmed for Vegas.

02:12:41.000 We were not invited to Amfest.

02:12:43.000 I can't wait.

02:12:44.000 I need to make a statement that we will not be there.

02:12:47.000 And I'm not going to wait two weeks in advance.

02:12:50.000 A lot of people asked me not to say anything.

02:12:51.000 And I'm like, guys, it's insane that we told people to buy tickets and the expectation was we were going to be there.

02:12:55.000 And then I would just not say anything to anybody.

02:12:57.000 And then they'd show up and be like, I was really hoping to see Tim Cast IRL.

02:13:01.000 We threw out Trump golden shoes.

02:13:03.000 Was that last year or the year before?

02:13:04.000 Last year.

02:13:05.000 Last year, we threw out golden Trump sneakers autographed by everybody on the stage.

02:13:09.000 And like we had a blast and Charlie came on.

02:13:12.000 And the reason we were there was not because we were a big draw for tickets to people.

02:13:16.000 I think we did like 2,000 people in like a stadium that holds like 10 or was it 10,000?

02:13:22.000 But it was because the online audience was getting, from our side, was getting a view into Turning Point.

02:13:27.000 And so it was a win-win between the two of us.

02:13:29.000 Like Charlie was like, you'll be involved in our event and we're involved with your audience and we get a bigger reach that we don't normally get.

02:13:35.000 Well, this time around, I just, I think the vision of the organization is we don't need Tim Poole.

02:13:42.000 We don't need his audience.

02:13:44.000 We're going to do our thing and we're going to get speakers for this time slot.

02:13:47.000 They didn't like my views on things or whatever the issue was.

02:13:50.000 So I decided to make a video and just be, and I said everything I said.

02:13:53.000 You can watch it.

02:13:53.000 It's 40 minutes long.

02:13:55.000 And obviously, as soon as the video came out, my phone's blowing up with everyone saying, Tim, you're officially invited.

02:14:01.000 You have to come.

02:14:02.000 Everything's been cleared up.

02:14:04.000 And the only reason I made the video is because it had gotten to that point where we're a month away with no confirmation and an inability to book travel and guests.

02:14:13.000 And it's just like we're stressed about it.

02:14:16.000 So I said, look, I've already confirmed the studio in Vegas.

02:14:21.000 I was told explicitly that due to comments I said that were hurtful, where I said something to the effect of there are people who are concerned that Turning Point can't survive without Charlie.

02:14:30.000 And that was deemed offensive by some individuals in upper management.

02:14:33.000 They didn't invite me back and they filled the stage with other individuals.

02:14:36.000 And I also was told by other individuals at Turning Point that as this decision was being made, they were having conversations behind the scenes, like we shouldn't do this to Tim.

02:14:44.000 He's been a good friend.

02:14:45.000 And they were like, well, I don't, you know, we don't want to have him here.

02:14:49.000 And some people there vouched for me.

02:14:51.000 So I have no problem if it's the direction they're going.

02:14:53.000 I'm not salty about it.

02:14:54.000 We've always been a weird little island of things that we do.

02:14:57.000 And my goal, we've always been normie-esque.

02:15:00.000 We do music.

02:15:01.000 We do skateboarding.

02:15:02.000 I play poker.

02:15:03.000 Phil's a rock star.

02:15:04.000 We are not politico people.

02:15:06.000 We are not activists for PACs and organizations or members of Congress.

02:15:10.000 And so when we were offered an opportunity to be at a major Normie event of something that I deeply care about, I said, okay, we'll do the first three days there and then we'll go to Turning Point.

02:15:21.000 But when I found out Turning Point said, we don't want you here because of your comments, I said, I am not going to be the person that made a phone call to prominent Turning Point personalities, demanded they go to executive staff and bump people off the stage who are already booked because I deserve stage time.

02:15:39.000 That's never going to happen.

02:15:41.000 So after I made the video and published it, I get a few phone calls from friends.

02:15:46.000 They are very nice and from upper management saying it's a misunderstanding.

02:15:50.000 We were getting it sorted.

02:15:52.000 You didn't need to go public and say these things.

02:15:55.000 And friends being Tim, it's a redemption.

02:15:58.000 I'm sorry that it played out this way.

02:16:01.000 Now that we know about it, it's going to be rectified and the Timcast slot will be on stage.

02:16:05.000 And I said, guys, with all due respect, I know it's not the organization's fault these things happen.

02:16:13.000 I would assume it's principally mismanagement or maybe some people just don't like me, whatever it may be.

02:16:20.000 But making the video and saying I'm not coming obviously was going to result in some kind of concern of drama or backlash, which would then result in people because I've got a lot of followers being pressured to vacate their stage time confirmed to make room for me.

02:16:35.000 I won't do that.

02:16:37.000 If Turning Point decided to book people, that means Timcast was not a consideration and we don't need to be.

02:16:44.000 Nobody owes me anything.

02:16:46.000 We were not a consideration.

02:16:47.000 They didn't think about the time slot that we could do.

02:16:50.000 I wasn't offered alternatives, speaking positions.

02:16:53.000 I was not even offered an attendee ticket and others were.

02:16:57.000 If they don't want me there, the last thing I want is to make a phone call to a friend and say, make them bring me.

02:17:04.000 Now that there's some pressure because I have a big show and people are going to watch the video, I feel that certain individuals are like, okay, Tim, you can come now.

02:17:14.000 And I'm like, I don't do that.

02:17:17.000 Not with Turning Point.

02:17:19.000 And so the people who are there, who are my friends and that we've done shows with, by all means, you know, I mean, no negativity.

02:17:24.000 And I hope everybody still goes whether we're there or not.

02:17:27.000 If you bought tickets because we were going to be there, you'll enjoy the show and have a great time.

02:17:30.000 And I hope Turning Point succeeds in this regard.

02:17:33.000 But if we get to the point where we're less than a month away, they filled the stage already.

02:17:37.000 And only now, after some reconciliation, are they saying, maybe we'll work on this.

02:17:44.000 My thought process was as of Monday, they told our team, we're full, but we'll see.

02:17:51.000 You know, we're going to try and make it work.

02:17:52.000 And I'm like, what do you mean you're full?

02:17:53.000 Why didn't you tell us this a week ago, two weeks ago, a month ago?

02:17:57.000 Bro, I texted them two weeks ago and said, I just wanted to follow, make sure we got the details because we're being a little close.

02:18:04.000 And they ghosted me and didn't respond.

02:18:06.000 So I'm kind of offended that only after I make a video saying I'm not going to be there and there's tumult now, it's like, no, Tim, no, it's all a mistake.

02:18:15.000 It wasn't a mistake.

02:18:16.000 They filled the slot.

02:18:17.000 They filled the stage.

02:18:18.000 We weren't invited.

02:18:20.000 And it is what it is.

02:18:23.000 That being said, I'm actually bummed to say this because I do not want to be in Las Vegas during Amfest, but I'm also not going to utilize pressure and girth to make management at Turning Point who didn't want me there make me come.

02:18:38.000 We're friends with prominent personalities who work with Turning Point.

02:18:41.000 So obviously they're going to have my back and go to the management and say, what do you mean you're not having Tim?

02:18:46.000 Why is this happening?

02:18:47.000 I'm getting texts from other companies too.

02:18:49.000 People are like, aren't you like a top five speaker?

02:18:51.000 And I'm like, I'm not invited at all.

02:18:54.000 Okay.

02:18:55.000 Like, that's the management's decision.

02:18:58.000 My friends are vouching for me.

02:19:00.000 Management is now pressured and I'm being asked to come.

02:19:03.000 And I said, I don't want to operate that way.

02:19:06.000 That being said, I was invited to a poker game for influencers, which wouldn't have interfered with anything we are doing.

02:19:16.000 The conversation I had with my wife was, I'm not, I like to play recreationally.

02:19:20.000 I'm not a big guy.

02:19:21.000 I don't like losing money.

02:19:23.000 And I usually, I consider my, I'm a winning player.

02:19:25.000 I'm not going to pretend to be the best poker player in the world or even better than these influencers.

02:19:29.000 But the concern we had is what we've always done is tried to do things that are outside the realm of politics, music, skateboarding, and the things that I know and poker.

02:19:37.000 So when I was offered this stream at the lodge in Austin, we said, okay, Tim's going to go and I'm going to go to Roseanne.

02:19:42.000 I'm going to go on Callan and Shob's podcast.

02:19:44.000 We're going to go on the lodge stream.

02:19:46.000 We're going to have Tim do a, these are like our PR team being like, Tim, you need to do things that are not political because the only time people get introduced to you is when you're angry about something and very, very opinionated.

02:19:57.000 You need to be in environments where you're doing things that are just silly, fun, and you're friends with everybody.

02:20:03.000 I said, okay, initially when I was offered the lodge poker game, I said no.

02:20:08.000 And then after having this conversation, I said, okay, maybe we should do it and take an opportunity that I can go on other people's shows, talk about other issues and do PR in a different way.

02:20:18.000 When the World Poker Tour reached out to us again about Vegas, I said, we're doing Amfest, so it's not going to be possible.

02:20:25.000 And they said we could do something on the 17th.

02:20:27.000 And I said, okay, actually, that works because we're only four hours away.

02:20:27.000 That's the date.

02:20:29.000 So that means right before Amfest, we're already on the West Coast.

02:20:32.000 It makes things a lot easier.

02:20:33.000 Then they asked me if we wanted to use how long we wanted to use the studio, a free studio from PokerGo, which I'm gushing.

02:20:41.000 I'm a huge fan.

02:20:42.000 And that they have prominent personalities, conservatives, who are in the space and would love to work with us and do the show.

02:20:48.000 I said, no, because we're going to Amfest.

02:20:51.000 Then when I found out that they filled the slot, blocked us and told us no, I was left with limited time to book travel and make a decision.

02:20:59.000 I could go to the World Championships with the World Poker Tour.

02:21:02.000 These people have millions of followers.

02:21:04.000 I'm going to be on a stream with people who have two, three, four million followers.

02:21:08.000 It's going to be a big show and it's going to be outside of the world of politics, which is really great for brand building and bringing attention to the work that we believe in.

02:21:15.000 Not that I would rather be playing a poker game as opposed to being at the big event for Amfest, but it was before.

02:21:22.000 Considering what ended up happening, I said, am I going to wait and miss both opportunities?

02:21:28.000 Or am I going to just recognize that they booked the stage and didn't want me there?

02:21:33.000 And I would be shoehorning my weight at this point.

02:21:35.000 So I waited a day.

02:21:37.000 And then on Tuesday, or, you know, this morning, I said, I think I've made my decision.

02:21:41.000 I'm not going to wait around any longer.

02:21:43.000 It's 29 days.

02:21:44.000 It's not happening.

02:21:46.000 Texted the guys at PokerGo and said, we're in.

02:21:48.000 Book the studio for us.

02:21:50.000 I would appreciate it.

02:21:51.000 And then said, I'm going to announce that we're not going to be there.

02:21:54.000 Now they're saying, please come back.

02:21:57.000 But the issue is I've already said we've booked people.

02:22:02.000 And again, I'll stress, I know there are going to be people who are going to be like, oh, Tim's a degenerate going to play poker instead of going to Amfest.

02:22:08.000 They turned around and offered him a come anyway. 0.58

02:22:10.000 Yeah.

02:22:12.000 It is what it is.

02:22:14.000 I don't like the idea of me saying, boot those people off the stage for me.

02:22:17.000 They booked them.

02:22:18.000 That's what they wanted to do.

02:22:20.000 And I don't think it's fair that because I have a big show and it's and it's worrisome for them that they would now shift everything around.

02:22:28.000 Not to mention, in reality, I was looking at hotels and flights and I'm like, guys, this is nuts.

02:22:33.000 They put us in a position where even after reinviting us, it's damn near impossible to do.

02:22:37.000 So I'm a little pissed off about that.

02:22:38.000 Not at, you know, Jack or Benny or any of these guys at Turning Point who are who have my back and I respect tremendously.

02:22:44.000 But the idea that now they're saying, no, no, Tim, we've changed our mind.

02:22:46.000 You can come.

02:22:47.000 And I'm like, oh, yeah, at the last minute when I can't book travel.

02:22:49.000 So that's the gist of it.

02:22:50.000 That's the story.

02:22:51.000 And it is what it is.

02:22:53.000 We are going to be hanging out with there are a handful of prominent conservatives in the poker space and in sports betting and influencers who are going to be there, who are fans.

02:23:03.000 And I think it's a good opportunity to do, I guess, just like outreach appearances on other shows that are outside the political space.

02:23:11.000 It wasn't my first choice, but I will do what I have, what I can and what I have to do.

02:23:14.000 And I'll have fun.

02:23:15.000 And I hope everybody goes to Turning Point has a great time and enjoys themselves.

02:23:19.000 And I think it's going to be a great show.

02:23:20.000 I think they're in a great time.

02:23:21.000 And I, you know, have fun.

02:23:23.000 So I don't know if we should just go to callers or if anybody wanted to comment or say anything.

02:23:27.000 Can I make the case for why you should be there in a respectful way?

02:23:30.000 I think people make mistakes.

02:23:34.000 I think, you know, Turning Point has undergone something that no organization would ever want to experience during a year and that, you know, an assassination was carried out on their leader.

02:23:43.000 And I think there was probably some commotion this year and insane demand for people to be at Amfest.

02:23:49.000 I'm sure that more than ever, they probably had a ton of people saying, Can I be on stage at Amfest?

02:23:54.000 Can I be on stage at Amfest?

02:23:55.000 Can I be on stage at Amfest?

02:23:57.000 And I'm sure things got mixed up.

02:23:58.000 I don't think Amfest would be the same without you, man.

02:24:00.000 I think you and your team need to be there.

02:24:02.000 I think it's better with people like you there.

02:24:04.000 I think it's a core part of it.

02:24:06.000 And I think, you know, I'm not privy to your private conversations with these guys, but I think Turning Point's an awesome group.

02:24:12.000 I think you guys are awesome.

02:24:13.000 And I think if you guys are able to, you know, work that out, I think your intentions are pure, man.

02:24:17.000 I think you've stated pretty clearly that you don't want to just like bump people off the stage and you're not trying to do what you did to like strong arm yourself into it.

02:24:26.000 If there's a, if there's a legitimate way for them to, you know, maybe shuffle some things around so you have a little bit of time.

02:24:33.000 Like, I think, I think the American people would love to have you there.

02:24:36.000 I think it's better for everyone.

02:24:37.000 What was it?

02:24:37.000 Second, second week of October was when we were in, we were in Phoenix.

02:24:41.000 Was that second or first?

02:24:42.000 It was the first week of October.

02:24:43.000 First week of October?

02:24:44.000 End of September and the first week of October because the shutdown hit and it was like it was after Phoenix I went to Austin.

02:24:49.000 Is that what happened?

02:24:50.000 Yeah.

02:24:50.000 I told them all this.

02:24:52.000 I said, let us accommodate you guys however you need because I know that our show is bulky.

02:24:57.000 We can do shorter.

02:24:58.000 We could do a bridge.

02:24:59.000 We could do weekend.

02:24:59.000 We can do whatever you guys want.

02:25:04.000 My view is everything I said, but management's vision for what Turning Point is, we were not a consideration for.

02:25:15.000 Only after I go on my channel to 2 million people and be like, we're not going to be there.

02:25:20.000 Is there now a, oh no, oh crap, we need to have him there.

02:25:24.000 And my attitude is kind of like, I'm not here to rent on someone else's party or tell them what to do or to shoehorn my way in.

02:25:32.000 And it's just not going to happen.

02:25:36.000 To follow up on Ryan's point, you were at, what did you do at three years consecutively?

02:25:41.000 The past every three years we've been there, yeah.

02:25:43.000 I think if Charlie were around, he'd want you to go.

02:25:47.000 I agree.

02:25:48.000 I think to honor him, you should consider.

02:25:53.000 The point that we're at in this is already at what you described and beyond.

02:25:59.000 That I had been texting, I had been calling, our team had been reaching out.

02:26:04.000 And my understanding is while this was happening, they had a conversation internally, do not invite Tim Pool.

02:26:13.000 So now we're at the point where effectively what happened was I didn't realize there was bad blood over what I had said.

02:26:20.000 I didn't realize it was so offensive to say that there are people who are concerned that Turning Point can't make it without Charlie.

02:26:25.000 I didn't know that was shockingly offensive because everybody's saying it.

02:26:31.000 You just took it personally.

02:26:34.000 So what you're describing as Charlie would want you there and you should consider it is a conversation we had two weeks ago and then followed up again a week later and discussed it.

02:26:43.000 And I sent text messages out and I got a message back from someone there saying, you know, Andrew says he's not sure if you're coming yet.

02:26:49.000 And I'm like, we're a month, we have five weeks out and you're telling me they're not sure if I can be there.

02:26:54.000 In reality, he had already scheduled the stage.

02:26:57.000 They had already scheduled the stage while telling me, hold off.

02:27:01.000 We're working on it.

02:27:02.000 You know, ironically for them, they're actually expediting the process of their demise by burning bridges with people like you and validating what you said originally for what for the heavens.

02:27:15.000 That's why they didn't want you here.

02:27:16.000 But I was saying that in defense of Turning Point.

02:27:18.000 Yeah, Turning Point's not going to die.

02:27:19.000 I don't think you believe that Turning Point's going to die.

02:27:21.000 I was speaking in defense of Turning Point because they were saying Colvett and Erica were too happy.

02:27:27.000 And the conspiracy theory was they're not grieving Charlie's death.

02:27:30.000 They're celebrating right now.

02:27:31.000 This is suspicious.

02:27:33.000 And the insinuation was that Charlie was murdered by insiders at Turning Point, to which my point was they're showing strength because they have to, but there really are concerns.

02:27:42.000 They can't do it without Charlie.

02:27:43.000 Why would they kill the guy?

02:27:45.000 And that was offensive.

02:27:47.000 The point is this.

02:27:48.000 I hear what you're saying.

02:27:51.000 Tremendous respect for Charlie.

02:27:53.000 The dude was going to be president.

02:27:56.000 We were already past the point where we had discussed, wouldn't Charlie want us to be there?

02:28:01.000 He certainly would, because even, you know, Andrew told us this.

02:28:05.000 Charlie, we have an audience that TPSA has a hard time reaching.

02:28:11.000 And I think Turning Point is an audience that we don't reach.

02:28:14.000 We're not the staunch conservative types.

02:28:16.000 We want to be a part of this.

02:28:17.000 But I want to stress again, while we were being told, just wait a little bit longer, they had already known internally we were not invited and had scheduled the stage.

02:28:29.000 The issue there is I feel like, and this is what I was talking with people internally here, like they're going to turn around and then invite us when it becomes incredibly strenuous to do and we're stressed.

02:28:42.000 We're stressed by it.

02:28:43.000 Put us in a position where now if we don't go, they're going to say, but of course we invited Tim Poole, knowing that logistically it's nightmarish to try and make happen.

02:28:53.000 So I will say one more time.

02:28:54.000 While I was asking them for the updated details and they were telling me, we'll get back to you, they knew they had already booked our spot and weren't inviting us.

02:29:04.000 Look, you might have to force Charlie's, you had to force Charlie's will on them.

02:29:08.000 I don't do that.

02:29:09.000 I've never done that.

02:29:09.000 And I'm not going to do that to anybody.

02:29:11.000 Timcast is a weird company of crackpot weirdo rogues who do weird shit. 0.99

02:29:16.000 So true. 1.00

02:29:16.000 It's so true. 1.00

02:29:17.000 We are not suit-wearing paladins marching down the street.

02:29:21.000 I don't go bang on the doors of anybody and demand they let me in.

02:29:24.000 When Joe Rogan didn't invite me, I said, I don't get mad at somebody for not doing me a favor. 0.91

02:29:27.000 I don't want to sound like an asshole, but I mean, you didn't go to the funeral for valid security concerns. 0.90

02:29:32.000 Indeed. 0.96

02:29:33.000 And now, like, one of the biggest events that he would hold was Amfest.

02:29:38.000 You're not going to be participating in that.

02:29:41.000 I'm not saying in an opportunistic way, you should, you know, I think the mantle needs to be continued and you could contribute a lot to them.

02:29:49.000 And it would be, you know, to their benefit for you to be there and the movement for you to be there.

02:29:53.000 But yeah, no, if you are you firm in your decision?

02:29:59.000 So the only reason I'm talking about it is because we hit the crescendo.

02:30:04.000 Like we're off the cliff.

02:30:06.000 Like people were calling me and they're saying, no, no, Tim, we're going to work it out.

02:30:09.000 We're going to work it out.

02:30:11.000 And these conversations were happening.

02:30:14.000 And I was up against the wall.

02:30:17.000 I've got it.

02:30:18.000 I've got, if they're going to keep telling me, just keep waiting, but they already booked the stage.

02:30:24.000 Am I going to miss the opportunity in Vegas, which is not preferable, by the way?

02:30:29.000 I'd rather have done the Amfest stage.

02:30:32.000 If I just say, wait, wait, wait, I'm going to give all of the time and all the benefit to Amfest when I already knew they filled the stage and we weren't invited.

02:30:42.000 I had to make a decision.

02:30:44.000 And I said, okay, I'm going to let the Vegas team know we need the studio for the full week, Monday through Friday.

02:30:50.000 And yes, bring these celebrity guests our way. 0.85

02:30:53.000 We will have them on our show.

02:30:56.000 And there's like a handful of guys.

02:30:58.000 I don't know who they are, but you guys may be familiar with Alexandra Botez.

02:31:02.000 She has 2 million subscribers.

02:31:03.000 I'm doing a stream with her.

02:31:05.000 And I think that's a great opportunity for us and the things we do to reach out to these normies, to be involved in other events.

02:31:12.000 And then afterwards, go to Amfest.

02:31:14.000 But again, I will stress, if I kept waiting, sooner or later they're going to tell me yes.

02:31:21.000 Then we do nothing.

02:31:22.000 And then our big end of the year show doesn't happen.

02:31:26.000 So I made a decision.

02:31:28.000 And I'm not going to go to them now and say, cancel the studio, even though, like, I just can't do this.

02:31:33.000 I don't bring it publicly because while it's all going on, because I'm like, I don't want there to be, like, I got to be honest, like, there's a lot of questions and concerns about what's going on in Turning Point USA.

02:31:46.000 There's a lot of videos about their financials, questions of the endowment and investments in the stock market and all these things.

02:31:52.000 And I've done nothing but defend Turning Point to try and offer up some stability.

02:32:00.000 You know, I got to be completely honest.

02:32:03.000 Loyalty is the most important thing, in my opinion.

02:32:07.000 And they have shown me, not all of Turning Point, but basically one individual or whoever was involved in the booking, disloyalty.

02:32:18.000 Yeah.

02:32:19.000 The fact that they were dragging you along is the thing that to me is kind of, you know, unforgivable or the reason why you shouldn't, you know, shouldn't acquiesce and say, okay, I'll go to this.

02:32:32.000 I agree.

02:32:33.000 I hear you.

02:32:33.000 And I'm obviously miffed by that.

02:32:35.000 But the point largely is we have to book hotels and travel even for Vegas.

02:32:41.000 And we did not because I was like, I can't because Amphest told me to wait.

02:32:47.000 And then Monday, they're like, well, we're full, but we're trying to make it work.

02:32:50.000 And I was like, what?

02:32:54.000 Okay, I get it.

02:32:56.000 Like I had a bunch of people say, Tim, just don't say anything publicly.

02:33:00.000 And I said, what do you mean?

02:33:01.000 We promoted the event like four or five times and told people about tickets.

02:33:04.000 We were told that we were going to be there.

02:33:05.000 There's going to be members of our audience being like, why aren't you here?

02:33:08.000 I'm going to let them know as soon as I can.

02:33:11.000 And I have to confirm our other studios.

02:33:13.000 So now that there's public pressure and it's turned into whatever this is, it's obvious this is going to happen.

02:33:20.000 And then the friends we have who work with Turning Point are like, I'm going to go vouch for you.

02:33:23.000 And I'm like, I know.

02:33:24.000 But you know what? 0.99

02:33:25.000 When this was going on, I didn't go to a bunch of people and say, hey, go kick them in the butt and tell them we're coming. 0.99

02:33:32.000 I just said it is up to them. 0.99

02:33:34.000 What Turning Point is without Charlie needs to be what Turning Point is.

02:33:40.000 It is going to be what it is.

02:33:41.000 I'm not going to interfere.

02:33:42.000 I'm not going to change it.

02:33:43.000 I have nothing to do with it.

02:33:44.000 I don't want their money.

02:33:45.000 I don't want their clout.

02:33:45.000 I don't want their resources.

02:33:47.000 What they need from me, I will give.

02:33:48.000 What they do not want from me, then I will not provide.

02:33:51.000 I asked only one person who's a friend of ours that works at Turning Point because we weren't getting answers.

02:33:57.000 And they told me two weeks ago, we're not sure yet if you're coming.

02:34:02.000 And I said, I will wait.

02:34:04.000 And I could have booked Vegas and I could have got our staff ready to go and I could have saved a ton of money, but I said, we'll wait.

02:34:09.000 Then I found out on Friday, even though they told me to wait, they knew they were not invited and they had already booked the stage.

02:34:18.000 And I'm like, guys, let's go to callers.

02:34:24.000 All right, we got casual Libtard. 0.94

02:34:26.000 What say you, good sir?

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 19, 2025

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