00:02:29.000JD Vance is speaking at a Turning Point USA event, but Erica Kirk has backed out, citing very serious security risks, threats to her safety.
00:02:39.000And many people are asking, well, then why would the vice president go?
00:02:43.000It's not safe for you, but it's safe for him.
00:02:45.000And there's a lot to break down here, but I think this story matters because it's the shape of our political landscape right now, what's going to come from this.
00:02:55.000With the midterms coming up, Turning Point USA, basically a pariah, But the right is split with half the people who once supported it now attacking it, liberals joining in.
00:03:07.000And this is the organization that got young people to support Donald Trump and the Republican Party in 2024.
00:03:55.000And Tony Gonzalez resigned, but, you know, whatever about that.
00:04:00.000So we'll talk about that, plus a bunch of other weird stuff's going on.
00:04:03.000Guys, you know, in talking about this Erica Kirk stuff, I have to point out.
00:04:08.000I don't know if it's a mass formation psychosis forming against Donald Trump or it's a coordinated effort, but there are a bunch of fake posts just lying about Trump in the weirdest of ways.
00:04:19.000Not too dissimilar to back when, you remember when Trump threw the fish food into the koi pond with Shinzo Abe?
00:04:25.000ABC, I think it was ABC, they cropped the image, zoomed in on Trump, so it looked like he just, of his own volition, threw it in.
00:04:32.000Whereas the real story was that Shinzo Abe did it first, Trump said, okay, and then followed suit.
00:04:36.000The media then attacked Trump for being uncouth.
00:04:39.000Well, there's this weird claim that Trump was booed at UFC.
00:04:43.000Every, I should say, but tons of people are repeating this.
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00:07:59.000Here's a story from the Daily Mail Erica Kirk backs out of TPUSA event with JD Vance at last minute due to unknown threats, vice president says.
00:08:09.000The interview with Vance at the University of Georgia was part of the nonprofit organization's tour to excite young conservative voters out of the midterm elections.
00:08:15.000Vance said Erica consulted with him ahead of time about these threats.
00:08:19.000Ultimately, she decided to miss the rally.
00:08:21.000Quote, I love Erica, and I know that she did get some threats, Vance said on stage.
00:08:26.000About two hours ago, I was a little worried that we were going to have to cancel the event because Erica was not going to come, and she was very worried about it.
00:08:32.000After Vance consulted with the Secret Service, he's had to go on with the event without Erica.
00:08:36.000No further information about the threats has been released.
00:08:38.000The Daily Mail approached the White House for comment.
00:09:16.000Erica Kirk says, I was so looking forward to tonight's event at the University of Georgia with our Vice President in advance, but after our family is all.
00:11:26.000They're going to take all your guns away.
00:11:27.000They're going to do all of these things that people have been freaking out about.
00:11:30.000They're already bringing back weird woke garbage.
00:11:33.000They know that they're going to move back in, and Candace Owens is personally responsible because several months ago, after Charlie Cook was murdered, and she started making insinuations that Erica did it.
00:12:48.000I kind of feel like the reason she said, What do we think is the real reason she pulled out is so she can find the craziest angle that you can imagine in her replies and be like, Well, that's the one I'm going to go with.
00:12:57.000Because really, she's just looking to get viewers, to get people to watch the show.
00:13:02.000I mean, just like you said, there are a million reasons why Erica Kirk would be like, No, I can't do it.
00:13:08.000So for Candace Owens, she's just like, Well, here we go.
00:13:11.000Now's my chance to bring Erica Kirk back into the conversation because that's when she got the most traction.
00:13:54.000She's a random nobody, some random, like, you know, 30 year old woman.
00:13:58.000And then I clicked back, and the entire threads feed of the algorithm was just tons of 30, 35 year old women, all like, you know, late 20s or whatever women, just saying Erica Kirk deserves hell.
00:14:10.000Like, it was just all of this anti Erica Kirk stuff.
00:14:14.000And I'm trying to figure out who these people are and why they hate this woman so much.
00:17:06.000Everything else has been decentralized.
00:17:08.000If you were in the mega coalition when, at the peak of the culture war, right before Trump was to win, everybody who was angry with Democrats was watching, saying, Are we going to win?
00:17:40.000It's just kind of just female drama content.
00:17:42.000Charlie Kirk was murdered by his wife, and Brigitte McCrone has a penis, all this weird nonsense that just is entertainment, infotainment.
00:17:50.000People are following suit because it's the last.
00:17:53.000Imagine the flood is happening, and they're all just trying to go as fast as they can to Everest where they can at least get some dry land.
00:20:48.000But let's pause real quick and just say it's not Candace bashing Erica, it's Candace bashing Turning Point and fracturing the organization that was rallying people to go vote, particularly young people.
00:21:58.000For me, as someone who has only a couple times shot 30 out of 6, I had a SEAL team sniper tell me before the news even came out that when he saw the video, he knew it was a 30 out of 6 because that's what he used and that's what he saw.
00:22:14.000And this is just a random guy who was doing security for me.
00:22:16.000So I've talked to a handful of people who do.
00:22:21.000I'll be very careful how I describe it.
00:22:22.000Let's just people who go overseas for certain reasons.
00:22:26.000And I've had three or four people say to me, like, oh, dude, that was a 30 out of six.
00:22:29.000You don't even have, like, you don't really have to.
00:23:53.000The court doesn't want a public trial.
00:23:55.000Turning Point and Charlie's family and friends do.
00:23:58.000They want everyone to be able to see the evidence.
00:24:00.000Well, I don't think they want Tyler Robinson to get off, and that's why they don't want to prematurely come out with a lot of the evidence.
00:24:37.000It's not relevant to a court, nor is it admissible.
00:24:40.000But they will now argue for it, and the defense is going to try and use it in the court of public opinion to say the federal government did not do their job.
00:24:48.000The issue is that he's the deputy director of counterterror, or he was the director of counterterror under Tulsi Gabbard.
00:24:55.000It's the FBI that handles these things.
00:24:57.000He said that Cash told him not to investigate.
00:25:01.000Well, yeah, why would the counterterror director be looking up an assassination?
00:25:07.000Well, if there were indications of terror, if there were indications, we don't know what data he had, and we don't know what he was going to testify.
00:25:23.000How about in the Swalwell case, why isn't the FBI allowing the counterterror to investigate whether Swalwell was raping these women because it was for China?
00:25:33.000I mean, I could just make up a million and one things.
00:25:36.000And so it's possible that Joe Kent goes to Cash and says, Hey, I want to investigate if Israel did this.
00:27:04.000We had a woman recently on who said that Zelensky is a Jew who was put in power by Netanyahu because Netanyahu wants a corridor from Israel to Ukraine.
00:27:13.000And I'm like, yep, you made that up on the spot.
00:28:48.000So now you've got Joe Kent coming out.
00:28:51.000This is creating a potential to get Tyler Robinson off by creating more and more doubt.
00:28:55.000The defense is likely to come in and say, look at this, a government official said they weren't allowed to investigate.
00:29:00.000So, I have questions about why Candace Owens' lawyers work out of the same building as the feds and why she is casting doubt on the suspect.
00:29:09.000If there was a conspiracy, which I think there is, I don't think there was a lone shooter that killed Charlie.
00:29:16.000These messages between him and his lover seem to be fabricated.
00:29:19.000And they keep spinning it around to Israel did it.
00:29:22.000What this does is it disrupts any actual investigative journalism into who may have done it.
00:29:29.000So, when Joe Kent from the intelligence agencies joins in, And says a foreign nexus, I'm like, they're intentionally disrupting any chance at really looking into what happened.
00:29:39.000I literally agree with every single thing you're saying.
00:29:43.000And let me tell you what I think is most important about it, though.
00:29:50.000Could this guy be playing a game or that guy be playing a game?
00:29:53.000The problem is, we don't know who's playing the game.
00:29:57.000And so, to me, what's important is that we investigate every angle as openly and transparently as possible because I don't trust any of them.
00:30:05.000Unless I see it with my own eyes, I don't trust any of them.
00:30:08.000And so, what you would do is you take the evidence you have, and then from each point of evidence, you'll advance one step to check where does this lead?
00:30:19.000Liberal leftists, it would make the most sense, in my opinion, that if there was a conspiracy to kill Charlie Kirk, it came from Democrat donors, elite pedophiles.
00:30:30.000We know these people who have been funding Democrat politicians, don't get me wrong, also a lot of the uniparty Republicans that Trump went to war with.
00:30:37.000And how do you stop regular people online from actually looking into the donor class that really wanted to stop Charlie Kirk?
00:30:45.000You have a counterterrorism director come out and claim it was Israel, or at least insinuate.
00:30:49.000And then instead of investigating the trans furries on X who were claiming they knew something was going to happen, the Discord groups, you're now getting people like Candace Owens screaming Israel did it.
00:30:58.000And I'm going to tell you, I agree with that.
00:31:00.000The only thing is, I would not put a limitation on that.
00:31:03.000I would follow every single lead that was out there.
00:31:06.000And I would allow, listen, if Joe Kent goes out there and testifies and he perjures himself or lies, then guess what?
00:31:13.000But he's going to say, I wasn't allowed to investigate a foreign exit.
00:31:22.000Probably why they're not going to call him.
00:31:23.000But that statement, what it does is now you've got the people who are, the young people who once were curious about going to a turning point event now will not do it.
00:33:08.000Tom, it's a little bit amazing to me how, like, I feel like you're willing to grasp at these straws of evidence of foreign nexus operations that I think are more or less baseless, but then completely disregard, I think, the quality evidence against Tyler Robinson.
00:33:22.000They're saying that there's his DNA sample at the scene of the crime, and then his cell phone data also puts him there.
00:33:27.000He also left a note for his gay lover and said, Luna, if you're reading this per my text, I am sorry.
00:33:32.000I left the house this morning on a mission and said in auto text, I'm likely dead or facing lengthy prison sentence because I took out Charlie Kirk.
00:33:46.000The Illuminati made a mistake, and you on the internet just found it out.
00:33:50.000So I think he's spot on when he points this out that all of these internet sleuths have been saying the most psychotic things from the get go.
00:34:00.000One of which was that Charlie was shot from behind, and I was told to my face simultaneously that Charlie was actually shot from behind by a guy in the bushes in front of him.
00:34:09.000And I'm sitting here being like, hold on.
00:36:34.000What I can say is everything is psychotic and insane and it's impossible to work through.
00:36:40.000And maybe that is the intended condition.
00:36:42.000For a while now, the prediction has been that the machine state could not allow decentralized podcasting and information spaces, and so they'd need to destroy it.
00:36:52.000And one of the theories was that they would flood the zone with fake news to make it impossible to figure out what is true.
00:36:58.000And they use human vice against the people who claim to want otherwise, thus proving a tremendous point.
00:37:05.000When some of the people who I'm going to leave their names out, who have shared this video claiming he was being booed, which he clearly was not, either just did not watch the video and lied anyway because it gets them clicks.
00:37:16.000Or they did watch it, no, he wasn't booed, and said, who cares?
00:38:21.000But I do think that if someone's going to make accusations at this point, I'll give some of these wackadoodles as much of a chance as I will some of the credible people.
00:38:36.000Because Dan Bongino is credible at this point.
00:38:39.000The end result will be the most likely scenario Democrats take the midterms, they sweep, and they take 2028 in a sweep.
00:38:59.000I'm not so sure about that because the people that are specifically critical of the Charlie Kirk narrative, critical of what's been done about the Epstein files, those people aren't going to come back because the economy's good.
00:39:12.000But the kitchen table issues, the things that will get the normal people that don't pay much attention to this kind of stuff, get them out to the polls.
00:39:20.000Is do I feel like my dollar is going as far as it did five, six, seven years ago?
00:39:51.000And you ask them about politics, and they'll tell you, I have no idea.
00:39:54.000A good example is this woman we had on the show who said Zelensky was put in charge of Ukraine because he's a Jew and Netanyahu on a corridor to Israel.
00:40:02.000And I'm just like, you literally made that up right now on the spot because you have no real justification for why you think the Jews control Ukraine.
00:40:17.000I think we are looking at a demoralized generation.
00:40:20.000Millennials and Gen Z are largely demoralized.
00:40:23.000They're not concerned about buying houses because they don't think it's possible, so it's not a part of their worldview right now.
00:40:29.000They are not seeking to attain home ownership.
00:40:32.000Some do, don't get me wrong, but I think largely as generations, Millennials and Gen Z and soon to be Gen Alpha just don't even concern themselves with it because it's not something that you can do.
00:40:43.000These people are not motivated by needing to make more money, they're quiet quitting, what's one of the big trends.
00:40:49.000These are people who think they're deserving of anything.
00:40:51.000They should burn down warehouses, and their motivation is ideological.
00:41:45.000I got a job that I can actually live on.
00:41:46.000This guy said, I deserve more and burned it all down.
00:41:49.000I don't think the economy changes much.
00:41:51.000I think it is going to be a factor, maybe three to five points, which Can be dramatic, but we're looking at a major swing from right to left right now, and it's about 10 points.
00:42:02.000Actually, I think I have the, I've got this from Rich Barris.
00:42:06.000He says Republicans lost the nonpartisan but really is partisan Wisconsin Supreme Court by 20 points, the largest Democrat margin in the modern history.
00:43:56.000Democrats are going to sweep in, they're going to take everything, and they're going to ram through their agenda.
00:44:01.000So I got to be honest, I think a lot of these pro Trump personalities that are now anti Trump, and a lot of the reason why a lot of these personalities are just saying anti Israel is because they fully expect Democrats to get in and they don't want to go to prison.
00:44:15.000You look at some of these guys out there that Trump now has problems with.
00:44:19.000Like he loved Massey, now he hates Massey.
00:44:21.000He hated Lindsey Graham, now he loves Lindsey Graham.
00:44:24.000I mean, isn't the problem that what we thought we were getting is not what we've gotten?
00:44:29.000I mean, at the end of the day, listen, I want Donald Trump to come back to the guy that we thought we were voting for in 2024, because if he does, it saves our country.
00:44:37.000Well, I think Trump just looked good by comparison, to be honest.
00:44:42.000Kamala Harris represented the failures of Biden, and people said Trump must be better.
00:45:07.000I mean, this is exactly who Trump has always been, especially with the we're not going to let Iran get nuclear weapons talk.
00:45:14.000It's like, yeah, we wanted, I think Trump's foreign policy in the Middle East has still been largely better than ever the president because they all started wars in the Middle East.
00:45:21.000I think if you remove wars in the Middle East, you get Trump with the Abraham Accords and other policies I think have been beneficial.
00:45:27.000Not that I'm not a fan of him going to war with Iran, but I do think there's a bigger component there that actually maybe we should just jump into right now while we've got a lot sitting here.
00:45:36.000We got this from the Wall Street Journal.
00:45:38.000Sanctioned Chinese tanker makes U turn in Hormuz after trying to exit Strait.
00:45:46.000So Donald Trump announces a blockade of any ship trying to go into or out of Iranian ports and through the Strait.
00:45:54.000This morning, the reporting was that a Chinese tanker made it through the strait, but then at the Gulf of Oman turned around and went back into the Persian Gulf, indicating, presumably, that the U.S. said no and they weren't able to pull off whatever they were trying to do.
00:46:11.000Now, here's where it gets interesting.
00:46:13.000I think, I now believe more than ever, the shuttering of the Strait of Hormuz was the intention in the war.
00:46:21.000Take a look at all of the factors at play right now.
00:46:23.000I don't care what anyone says, I care what we see.
00:46:37.000They've been cut off from around 20% of their energy imports, which is damaging their economy massively, and they're in serious trouble if this persists.
00:46:47.000At Trump going into Venezuela beforehand, securing Western oil assets, then starting a war in Iran where the strait was already open and then it gets closed.
00:46:59.000Trump goes, Oh no, the strait's closed.
00:47:01.000I swear, if you don't open that strait.
00:47:03.000Now, why would he be saying that again?
00:47:22.000Trump goes to war with Iran, causing the Strait of Amores to shudder.
00:47:26.000Trump makes a statement ensuring Iran keeps it closed.
00:47:30.000When Iran reopens the Strait as a toll booth, as a tollway, Trump orders a blockade of the Strait for any tankers, particularly this Chinese one.
00:47:41.000When you remove the we're trying to get the Strait open talk, that's PR hubbub.
00:47:46.000The end result is all of the actions we have seen thus far seem intended to stop.
00:47:52.000US adversaries from getting access to Middle Eastern oil.
00:47:54.000In the meantime, the Gulf is exporting at record levels.
00:48:00.000Trump can't come out and say, we started a war with Iran, bombed them, and killed their government because we're trying to cut off China's energy access.
00:48:09.000Because then China would say, okay, that's a declaration of war, right?
00:48:14.000What the US comes out and does and says, no, no, we're trying to get it open, trust me.
00:48:40.000When you take a look at the Venezuela stuff, plus the new defense agreement or cooperation agreement with Indonesia regarding the Strait of Malacca, when you look at the big picture, it's a significant effort to change China's.
00:48:57.000Basically, their energy policy because the Strait of Malacca, the Gulf of Hormuz, and the issues with Venezuela sending oil illicitly to China.
00:49:08.000And then you toss in the issues with the, what's it called?
00:50:02.000He then threatened sanctions against anybody.
00:50:04.000So Trump just shut down oil distribution from Venezuela and from Iran to our adversaries while also destroying the governments of Venezuela, Iran, and now Cuba.
00:50:15.000This looks like a coordinated play on the part of the U.S. to basically wipe out our adversaries and make the U.S. the dominant hegemonic power.
00:50:23.000And speaking of Cuba, Cuba was uniquely positioned to make trouble for any kind of ships that are going into the Gulf of America, where they're now going to.
00:51:20.000And what you said at the end was really key because not only is China not getting the oil, but we now have everybody coming to the Gulf of America.
00:52:28.000With the implication being that either through his executive order or the Save Act or something, Trump's going to control how the elections play out.
00:54:29.000And even if they try to get it through, Trump gets an appeal, gets an injunction, they're not going to be able to get anything through.
00:54:36.000And that could, I mean, that would be nuts.
00:54:39.000What I will say on the international stage stuff, as we're talking about, you want to pull up the map and we'll take a look at all this stuff.
00:54:48.000I don't care the opinions of anybody, myself, none of that matters.
00:54:53.000Ignore everything I've said, ignore everything the anti Trump people say and the pro Trump people say, and just calculate data points.
00:55:00.000Venezuelan oil under U.S. control, Cuba strangled on the verge of collapse, Iran, their government's completely gone, the strait is closed, and Gulf oil distribution has shut down with a U.S. blockade on Iranian ports.
00:55:15.000China's access to energy has been cut by what, 25%?
00:55:20.000Ignoring everything else, this is one of the most massive victories for Western militaristic power that I've seen in my life.
00:55:30.000And again, you want to call it an accident and say Trump's an idiot.
00:55:35.000You want to say this is never the intention, whatever.
00:55:37.000I'm only bringing up the data points that are factually confirmed.
00:57:42.000Putin says to Ukraine, If you open your borders to European trade, and we have open borders trade with you as part of our trade agreement, European goods will flood our country and disrupt our economy.
00:58:15.000Yanukovych sides with Putin, and what happens?
00:58:18.000All of a sudden, we get the Euromaidan movement.
00:58:20.000We get NGOs being funded in Ukraine, and the country falls into this major split where we'll call them activists storm the home of Yanukovych.
00:58:29.000He flees the country and goes to Russia.
00:59:29.000They're going from 5.4 million barrels a day imported.
00:59:33.000China was importing 5.4 million barrels a day to just over 2.5 million.
00:59:38.000Now, here's my ultimate point with all of the stuff on Ukraine, Qatar, Turkey, Syria, et cetera, they wanted to build a pipeline from Qatar up through Iraq, et cetera.
00:59:49.000I'm being told by everybody Trump's retarded, he's screwing the whole thing up, and Israel made him do it.
00:59:56.000That does not align with everything we've already tracked for the Syrian war, for the war in Ukraine, for the war in Afghanistan, for Trump's negotiations with Russia, the Nord Stream 2 bombing, Germany filing an arrest warrant on a Ukrainian.
01:00:12.000It all lines up with this is a plan to shut down the BRICS nations and create Western dominance in energy.
01:00:41.000I don't disagree that, you know, it looks like there's a lot of things here that could add up.
01:00:45.000But now let's look on the domestic side for a second.
01:00:49.000We've got provable lies, Epstein, some of these other things.
01:00:54.000We have, and this is where there's a couple issues that are near and dear to me that are not being talked about.
01:00:59.000They're not viral, but they should be.
01:01:02.000We have RealID, which is a digital ID that tracks and traces everything in this country.
01:01:06.000I've laid out, I've got pinned to the top of my Twitter profile a breakdown of how legally RealID implements digital biometric centralized database.
01:01:58.000But just real quick again, the points I'm making about the effects of this war and the military actions are immaterial to anything said by anyone.
01:02:07.000You remove Trump from the equation, and we have.
01:02:09.000The U.S. has seized back oil assets from Venezuela and now controls Venezuelan oil.
01:02:13.000Cuba is surrounded, cut off, on the verge of collapse.
01:02:15.000China has just lost access to 55% of its energy.
01:02:18.000Iran's government is completely destroyed.
01:02:20.000And our adversaries, who, not just China, who get our oil, get their oil from the Gulf, can no longer do it.
01:05:10.000He's particularly been talking down to them, especially because of their lack of intervention.
01:05:14.000Um, with what's going on in, uh, Iran, with our war in Iran.
01:05:17.000So if anything, I think their power and influence is on the decline in the administration.
01:05:22.000But I feel like I do understand that you do have certain political beefs, I guess, with the administration.
01:05:27.000Um, he's not accomplishing everything that he's ever said to, that he will, but I think it's difficult for any politician to do so.
01:05:33.000I think on the major issues, though, I think he's making a very large difference in doing what he's saying.
01:05:38.000The number one issue that I think many people care about and that he ran on was this mass deportation agenda.
01:05:43.000And I think as far as that goes, You know, you only have so much political capital and political bandwidth.
01:05:47.000I think he's been doing a very effective job.
01:05:49.000I think you also need to consider what's the majority he has in the House to actually affect change.
01:05:54.000But back to that point, the issue of immigration, I think Trump came to a harsh reality is that our economy is in trouble because we don't have babies.
01:06:02.000We don't have the workers to come in and take these jobs right now.
01:06:04.000And so I think we talked about it to a great deal.
01:06:08.000As to his mRNA, we aren't going to be able to have babies.
01:06:12.000But several years ago, we talked about how.
01:06:16.000Donald Trump's plan for mass deportation and immigration restrictions means that the economy may get worse because we don't have new workers to come in.
01:06:26.000It is the responsibility of the people to persist.
01:06:30.000And that means we need to start having babies.
01:06:31.000And so we have people in our chat constantly super chatting us, being like, we're having a baby again.
01:06:37.000However, I think that Trump's advisors probably went to him and said if we're going to defeat our enemies and we are going to put America on top, We have to slow down with anything that would curtail us domestically while we put greater pressure on China.
01:06:52.000And I think this is exemplified by the gas prices right now going up.
01:07:30.000And not just them, there are other guys working at Intel that we don't even know their names that are working with Trump.
01:07:35.000The issue is you say Trump did this thing, and then the anti Trumpers, who in their mind believe that Trump can only be retarded, because that's not true, here Trump may have pulled off this plan.
01:07:47.000And then they're like, that's not possible.
01:08:21.000And there were China hawks in the administration that had plans like this, that knew about these situations.
01:08:28.000They got together and came up with a, I think definitely the cabinet is giving the president a lot of different options and those inform a lot of his decisions.
01:08:43.000Obviously, former Senator Marco Rubio, now Secretary of State, was known for being very hawkish on China, on Cuba, on Venezuela, on Iran when he is in the Senate.
01:08:53.000I will say though, I think I know him from reporting to be the actual trigger man, to be the actual decision maker.
01:09:03.000I think a lot of this stuff goes to him and he is making the final decisions.
01:09:06.000I think people who think that he's being, you know, misled or manipulated, particularly on the Iran stuff, are misunderstanding the president completely.
01:09:13.000I don't think the president was confused about his decision.
01:09:16.000He had, it took a lot of chutzpah and audacity to do something that no other of the five prior presidents were willing to do.
01:09:23.000And that's obviously attack the Iranian government and take the shout and attempt at regime change and, you know, strangleholding different oil channels and trade channels here.
01:09:32.000I think this is really a flex of power.
01:09:34.000He's willing to pull the trigger on Venezuela.
01:09:36.000I suspect he's going to be pulling the trigger on Cuba soon as well.
01:09:39.000He's continuing to support Ukraine, which is bogging down Russia further there.
01:09:43.000So, you know, I think people, they like to project onto Trump what their political beliefs are.
01:09:48.000But he obviously has agency and I think makes his own decisions.
01:10:23.000Is it your assumption that this wouldn't be considered America first?
01:10:26.000These kind of foreign policy moves that set up the United States as basically taking the power of OPEC basically away and putting that power on the U.S.
01:11:20.000And his advisors come to him and say, when China takes control as the dominant global economy, the standard of living for Americans will drop tenfold.
01:11:29.000Also, the timing of this China has been saying that in 2027, Is when they were looking to take back Taiwan.
01:11:54.000So AOC is asked at the European Security Council meeting or whatever should the US defend Taiwan if China moves on it?
01:12:02.000And she gives this long, rambling non answer that everyone made fun of her for because she's trying to look.
01:12:07.000Presidential, and she has no idea what she's doing.
01:12:10.000With cutting off China's access to energy, there's no concern at all now about China going after Taiwan because they don't have the energy to do it.
01:12:16.000They're in trouble that Trump made this move, and Trump did it in a way where it's an oopsie daisy, I made a mistake.
01:12:24.000So again, I'll say it like this you don't have to agree and you don't have to like the foreign policy moves that Trump is making.
01:12:30.000My view in 2016 with Hillary Clinton was if you wanted to be a fat American who does very little work for a whole lot, Hillary Clinton was your candidate because she was willing to go to war with Russia over Syria.
01:12:42.000She wanted a no fly zone over Syria because of the Qatar Turkey pipeline.
01:12:46.000She was told by our general that would be a declaration of war on Russia because they have a naval base in Tartus and that would restrict their movements.
01:15:10.000China just lost access to half its energy, as has all of our adversaries in the region.
01:15:15.000And the U.S. is exporting record levels of crude.
01:15:19.000Outside of whatever you think happened, whether it was intentional or not, these are tremendously powerful benefits to the United States in the long run.
01:15:26.000And we will see short term benefits to that.
01:15:29.000The exporting of massive crude, we are seeing, I think the average gas price right now across the country is up 50 cents.
01:15:35.000A lot of people are pissed about that.
01:15:37.000Hopefully, Trump gets a handle on this.
01:15:42.000If Trump, if this is actually the play, the Trump administration, should they succeed in this endeavor, will go down as the greatest administration in American history.
01:15:51.000Depending on what else they do domestically.
01:16:44.000Whether it's Trump, the Democrats, or otherwise, the intelligence agencies have this plan in place and they were going to do it regardless of who is in power.
01:16:50.000And members of Congress can't even talk to us about what's really going on, nor can they actually pass any real laws.
01:16:56.000So maybe what's actually happening is that the Hillary, Trump, the Democrat deep state, all of that's been fake the whole time.
01:17:33.000So, my point is, at this point, I'm sorry.
01:17:37.000If Trump had been honest about other things, if he'd been honest about Epstein, if he'd gone after some of these global elites, you know, I mean, listen, some of these guys that are, you want to take down WEF?
01:18:22.000And here's the thing had they not said, had Dan Bongino not outright lied and said there's no Epstein files, and then tried to convince us that Epstein killed himself, which I believe about as much as I believe that Tyler Robinson did this with no help, no one knowing.
01:18:41.000I was going to say, Tom, actually, although I believe that the Epstein files were suffering from being too hyped up, I think the administration burned itself by hyping up.
01:18:50.000The files so much prior to getting in.
01:18:52.000So, people like Kash Patel, who's now the FBI director, or Dan Bongino, hyped these files up so much that it's hard to really blame you for being dissatisfied with what's coming out following all the hype that's been around this from the people who ended up in the administration.
01:19:05.000So, although I believe it has turned into a witch hunt, when you have people like Pam Bondi, who contributed with these Epstein file binders to make people believe they were getting new stuff when they weren't actually, it was botched.
01:19:18.000So, like, at the same time, I just want to say, I just want to say, You know, it's hard to blame you when, you know, they really messed up this rollout.
01:19:26.000And Bondi and Kash Patel and Dan, they all over promised, under delivered.
01:19:30.000And now with the redactions, they didn't want it to come out.
01:20:35.000Imagine a scenario where the intelligence agencies together are stupider than I am as a single individual.
01:20:42.000For example, I've said it over and over again.
01:20:45.000If Dan Bongino came out right after he got in the FBI and when he was asked about Epstein, he just went, Oh man, you know, we're going through these files, guys, and it's going to take some time because if we want to get the bad guys, we got to do it right.
01:20:59.000Otherwise, they get away, but we're working on it, so hang tight.
01:21:03.000That would have bought him six months.
01:21:43.000You want billionaires or these people in WEF?
01:21:45.000Trump should have literally taken a goat, brought it out to the White House lawn, and then shown Epstein files the picture of the goat in it and be like, the goat did everything.
01:22:04.000I mean that in a serious manner, though.
01:22:06.000Like, I feel like they promised goods and they never delivered, and people like you.
01:22:11.000Who were, I think, bought into the hyper, were sold a set of stories that may or may not be true, or that we didn't end up seeing the resolution to.
01:22:19.000They didn't come with the goods after promising them for so long.
01:22:23.000So let me ask Can anybody in this room, we started hearing about Epstein in the 90s, right?
01:22:31.000And first of all, I'm going to diffuse this.
01:22:33.000Anybody that wants to say, Well, did you ask about it during Biden?
01:22:36.000No, I voted for Trump because I expected more.
01:22:43.000I campaigned for Trump because I wanted more.
01:22:45.000So, no, I didn't expect that Joe Biden, whose son was bringing crack to the White House, was going to do anything about this, allegedly, allegedly bringing crack to the White House.
01:22:58.000But here's the thing this starts in the 90s.
01:23:02.000Allegations of the Clintons, allegations.
01:23:06.000I mean, he's slipping his wife antibiotics because he got God knows what from some Russian hookers.
01:23:14.000Does anybody in this room seriously believe that Epstein wasn't running a blackmail ring for elites?
01:23:24.000I mean, does anybody not believe that?
01:23:26.000I don't know that I believe or disbelieve it.
01:23:28.000What's the evidence that he was running a blackmail ring?
01:23:32.000After 20 years, 30 years of this constantly being a conversation, constantly being a topic, of criminal prosecutions, of all sorts of things.
01:24:02.000But the theory that he was blackmailing people, I believe, became particularly prominent after 2012 when people started asking why Epstein was granted, like, where'd he get his money from?
01:24:42.000I think that Epstein was likely tied with intelligence agencies that was doing something in this space.
01:24:47.000But I'm only saying this to be careful on I don't want to have them throw a bone for us to chase in the wrong direction when we're trying to figure out what it is that Epstein was doing.
01:24:59.000The blackmail is certainly one of these theories.
01:25:02.000But for now, the only evidence we have of it was that he wrote a draft email to Bill Gates saying he wanted $30 million.
01:25:08.000Don't you remember when you drugged your wife with antibiotics because some hookers gave you an STD?
01:25:13.000I think a lot of this story, the truth is already bad enough.
01:25:17.000And for people to continue chasing and exaggerating certain portions of the story takes away from that.
01:25:24.000And for example, the legitimate parts of the story, I mean, Howard Lutnick, currently in the administration, even after Epstein was convicted of running around with these underage children in Florida, still hung out with him.
01:25:39.000And still was willing to meet him multiple times.
01:25:41.000And Lutnick still allegedly went to the island following that.
01:25:44.000Bill Gates, his relationship with Bill Gates was all after he was convicted of this behavior with younger children.
01:25:52.000So, like, there's a lot of evidence of very bad behavior, not particularly illegal for these other guys, just unbecoming for people in power.
01:26:01.000And I think, you know, people chasing other parts of the story that may or may not turn out to be true or fleshed out by the evidence is really overshadowing a lot of that bad behavior because, I mean, I know there was a short little witch hunt for Howard Lutnick, but nothing came of it, although there is a lot of pressure allegedly right now in the administration for his ousting.
01:26:20.000Like, instead of focusing on some of these other points, people are saying, you know, they're unsatisfied because they aren't getting so called scalps from whoever may have allegedly been in these videos that they're saying is just, you know, online videos or whatnot.
01:27:52.000I think that people, the evidence that people beat around the bush and use innuendo around was that he was convicted for relations for somebody under age.
01:27:59.000Two underage girls that he hired to support him.
01:28:30.000Again, I'm not saying there isn't, that he filmed this and then used it to blackmail these individuals to make money or to control them or something like that?
01:28:37.000When it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, no, no, no.
01:29:15.000I know it's an idea that may or may not have happened.
01:29:17.000I am asking the people who do believe it to say, inform me as I am unfamiliar with the hard evidence that he was blackmailing.
01:29:24.000Again, the only thing I think we've seen so far is an email to Bill Gates where he said, You owe me $30 million.
01:29:29.000And then he said, Remember when I gave you antibiotics to give to your wife that you snuck into her drink because two Russian hookers gave you an STD?
01:29:38.000The victims, I don't believe the victims stated that Epstein used video footage from them to blackmail princes and world leaders and politicians or anything like that.
01:29:47.000Virginia Guthrie literally said that she was forced to sleep with the prince and whoever else.
01:29:53.000But she also rescinded many of her allegations.
01:31:05.000I'm just saying I'd like to see some evidence.
01:31:08.000I'll give you that we can't prove because we haven't seen the documents or the other three and a half million pages that they're hiding or the other stuff that they're hiding that he was doing that.
01:31:17.000But you know investigating the wrong thing because you don't know Well, of course I could, but if we did it, that's the problem I have with people who are asserting something.
01:31:26.000This is the issue I always had with 9 11 truthers.
01:31:29.000They would come to me and they would say, Did you know that a professor found thermite residue in the base of the World Trade Center after the fact?
01:31:53.000I said, okay, now hold on there a gosh darn minute.
01:31:56.000If you want to come to me and say it's strange that the plane that crashed into the Pentagon seemingly vaporized itself and the jet engines are gone, I'm going to be like, that's an interesting point.
01:32:21.000But then you had people who would say it was an inside job.
01:32:24.000Implying that the Bush administration was involved in it occurring, which is a massively different thing than the official story is not correct.
01:32:32.000With Pizzagate, we see something similar.
01:32:34.000You get these emails leaked by WikiLeaks, which are questionable, and instantly, unfortunately, for some reason, everyone just starts making things up.
01:32:42.000And they claim that pizza means boy and pasta means girl, fabricated out of thin air.
01:32:54.000But if you start with the evidence and then just jump to the other side of the room, We're not actually investigating what may be going on.
01:33:01.000I think, for instance, one of the emails released by WikiLeaks where they say, is it more fun to play dominoes on pizza or on pasta, was about doing drugs.
01:33:12.000I think they were emailing being like, hey, when you're in an orgy, would you rather be on Coke or MDMA?
01:33:18.000I think they were coding it because they're sending emails to each other's accounts and they didn't want to overtly say it.
01:33:24.000There's also the email where they're like, I found a handkerchief with a map on it.
01:33:28.000And it's like, yeah, clearly these are coded in some way.
01:33:31.000Unless there's literally like a handkerchief that just looked like a treasure map and we're misconstruing this.
01:33:35.000But instead of asking what these things could mean and connecting the emails, trying to figure it out, everybody immediately said there's a pizza place where they're hiding kids in the basement.
01:33:45.000A guy showed up, fired a bullet into the ground, and it was like, now you're done screwed up.
01:33:50.000My concern with the Epstein stuff is that the people who are adamant they know exactly what he was doing are hurting the potential investigation and decentralized investigation into what he could have been doing by claiming and asserting.
01:34:07.000So, how do you feel if I state it this way?
01:34:09.000I think that the reason that the Epstein files are absolutely essential that we deal with is because there is a reasonable possibility, not that we can prove, but a reasonable possibility that if Epstein was running this child rape ring for a long time, that he was using it to blackmail rich and powerful people.
01:34:29.000And that if that's the case, that could explain a lot of the corruption that's occurring in this country.
01:34:35.000It could explain a lot of what's happening.
01:34:37.000And by opening up a full transparent investigation into this, wherever it goes, what that would allow us to do was to restore certain trust and allow us to ensure that there's a little bit more faith in the institution.
01:34:53.000I think when you decide the conclusion before the investigation and then your investigation does not reach that conclusion, you will lose all the trust.
01:35:03.000If you say that Epstein did this, and then we say we're spending, Trump gets in and goes $100 million, and they find nothing, what's going to happen?
01:35:11.000People are going to say, we elected you to solve this problem and you didn't do it.
01:35:15.000And then what happens when the people are like, we don't know that Epstein did this?
01:35:23.000What if his actual money was coming through is that he was smuggling weapons to various factions and rebel groups?
01:35:28.000What if Epstein was actually arming rebel factions so they could blame it on foreign countries as a casta's belly for the U.S. to go and engage in war or Israel for that matter?
01:35:36.000And then you go in and say, let me put it this way.
01:35:39.000What if Jeffrey Epstein gets in contact with Mossad through Ghislaine Maxwell, whose dad, of course, was an honorable Israeli citizen and is believed to work for Mossad?
01:35:49.000And they say, we need you to send weapons to Hamas and Hezbollah so they'll attack us and we can use it as a casus belli to bomb them and wipe them out.
01:36:22.000What if Epstein was actually just setting up rebels so that Israel could justify its expansion of greater Israel?
01:36:29.000Now, again, I don't believe that's the case.
01:36:31.000I'm using one more extreme conspiracy theory that is entirely plausible.
01:36:35.000And I could say, Well, if that were the case, because he is believed to have been working for Mossad and Maxwell's dad did too, then we should investigate that.
01:36:45.000That's the problem I have with drawing the conclusion before the investigation begins because now people want Trump to produce evidence that may not exist because they've already decided it did happen.
01:36:53.000It doesn't really matter what the reason.
01:36:56.000Then you can't ask for an investigation into a blackmail ring over child rape.
01:37:01.000Okay, I want an investigation into a child abuse ring about that.
01:37:08.000I want them to follow the law that they passed and that the president signed.
01:37:12.000That said, they're going to release everything that they can, with a few handy exceptions, which would include a lot more than half of the pages.
01:37:20.000What if it turns out that Epstein was an arms liaison for powerful interests for the United States to engage in foreign wars?
01:37:28.000They would provide, removing Israel from the picture, they would provide enemies of the U.S. with weapons as patsies so that, say, the Houthi rebels would attack things that Trump could then justify and say, okay, now we can go in and say they attacked us.
01:37:40.000We can, like, basically setting up false flag attacks.
01:37:43.000What if the reason they won't release this stuff is that Epstein was actually more of an intel military asset for global affairs and war?
01:37:50.000And the reason they're not releasing this is because it would disrupt U.S. foreign policy plans.
01:39:03.000I can make up more reasons that make more sense.
01:39:05.000So you think that the results of the investigations into the allegations about child sex trafficking were that we found out that he was running guns?
01:39:15.000I'm saying that if you are told to search a house for a weapon and the guy says it's for sure in the basement, we have to go to the basement, and you don't go upstairs because you're damn sure it's in the basement, you'll come out of the basement with nothing and then everyone outside screaming at you, why didn't you find the weapons that are in the basement?
01:39:31.000Well, I would agree that we should investigate this with a totally open mind, but we need transparency in this issue.
01:39:36.000So, my only issue, the point I'm bringing up is all I asked was what was the evidence that he was running a blackmail operation.
01:39:44.000I'm not saying he didn't, I'm just not familiar with it.
01:40:28.000I'm just saying, why do you think that's the case?
01:40:30.000Because, listen, when you go, if you're a police officer and you have a reason to investigate someone, you investigate them, right?
01:40:42.000So when you have a guy that is allegedly trafficking children to rich people around the world and he's got cameras in his houses, there's probably a reason for all that.
01:40:55.000The principal issue I take with these constant claims, like the same thing happened when we had this other woman on, is that it absolves to a certain degree the responsibility of the people that were being accused.
01:41:05.000Instead of saying that powerful individuals were using Epstein as a pimp for underage girls, you're saying he tricked them into doing it to blackmail them.
01:41:17.000I want those powerful individuals in jail.
01:41:19.000That's the reason I want them to be in jail.
01:41:20.000The conspiracy theory on the blackmail was that he would go on the Lolita Express and invite powerful people on the plane.
01:41:26.000He would introduce these guys to like 16, 17 year old girls.
01:41:29.000And say, they're going to hook up with you.
01:41:32.000Afterwards, he would say, I filmed you and they're underage and I own you now.
01:41:37.000There's no strong evidence that is actually how it played out, but that is the theory that people think he was doing.
01:41:42.000One of the issues I take with that is that it means that insert powerful billionaire, he was duped into doing it.
01:41:49.000Instead of these powerful billionaires hired Epstein to facilitate this and they went to his island where there was no jurisdiction to stop him.
01:43:30.000And maybe he's playing 15 D tests, but if he gets impeached, he ain't going to play anything.
01:43:34.000And maybe he resigned himself to that reality already.
01:43:37.000So he's maximizing all of his foreign policy efforts now.
01:43:39.000I'm praying, I am praying that Donald Trump is successful.
01:43:44.000For the sake of our children, I think there's a decent probability that Donald Trump, we talked about this a couple weeks ago, knows that it's a foregone conclusion at the midterms.
01:43:53.000And so the reason why we're seeing Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, China, all this stuff now is because he's like, okay, boys, we've got seven months to pull it off.
01:44:02.000After the midterms were cooked, so let's go out with a bang.
01:44:05.000He's going to jam through as much as he can to prop up the United States and then hope the next two years where he's jammed up and can't do anything, we will be able to set up a new.
01:44:15.000Republican who would come in and then carry on and continue the plans that he's that not just him but his administration has made.
01:44:21.000And what if what if the other side let's because we're talking a lot about Trump's strategy and Trump, you know, but maybe he's brilliant, maybe he's not, we don't know what he's doing, right?
01:44:30.000But the same, remember for any 4D, 5D, 6D chess he's got, the other side is trying to counter him, right?
01:44:38.000So maybe with all of these things you're doing, you know, are they setting him up to look bad, to look worse, to look this so that they can undo it?
01:46:11.000I disagree about having to do something massive.
01:46:12.000I think the only thing he needs to do is end the war in Iran, and people need to see gas prices return to what they're used to.
01:46:21.000And I think that that will, I'm only saying that will save the Senate.
01:46:25.000I don't think the Republicans can win the House unless, yeah, I don't think the Republicans can win the House at all.
01:46:34.000Unless the economy is going gangbusters.
01:46:37.000If there's a massive increase in economic activity here because of what happened in Iran, right?
01:46:42.000Because of what we're talking about with China, there's a big boom in the U.S. and people start making money in the next six months, then I think the Republicans can, not will, can.
01:46:53.000It still comes down to the people that are running.
01:46:55.000It depends on the campaigns that they run.
01:46:57.000If the U.S. doesn't have a big boom economically, the Republicans cannot.
01:47:02.000The only way they possibly can is if there's a big boom.
01:47:09.000If Trump's executive order already on the postal service that they can't transport mail in ballots for ineligible people, the game may be changed right now.
01:47:21.000And the question is will Trump deploy ICE and DHS into key swing areas to inhibit any potential illegal voting activity or things like that?
01:47:33.000It's all going to play a big role, and we got to see how it plays out.
01:47:35.000But I guess the question is is Trump ready to go to actual.
01:48:07.000And I got to be honest, when I'm being lied to about so many things, when I'm seeing a lack of accountability for any of these bad people that are doing it, why aren't we putting some of these guys in jail right now instead of waiting until this last minute, which could turn into an absolute war in this country?
01:48:24.000What if they don't actually have enough?
01:48:26.000Evidence because we, I think, I think we agree that to indict someone and fail at putting them in jail is worse than not indicting them.
01:48:35.000What if they just don't have enough, not saying that they are good people or that they didn't break the law, but what if they don't have enough evidence that the people that have made accusations are not credible enough or they don't think are credible enough to a jury where they feel like they're going to actually put people in jail?
01:48:51.000Because that's something that people don't talk about, right?
01:48:54.000There's people always say, We need to put these people in jail, we need to put these people in jail.
01:48:58.000As if just saying, you should go to jail, you should go to jail, you should go to jail, as if it's an authoritarian country where you can just say, well, you're accused, you're accused, you're accused, and we think that there's a preponderance of evidence, so we're just going to put you in jail.
01:49:38.000I watched Pam Bondi throw the Comey case and the Letitia James case, and I'm going to tell you that it is my opinion as an attorney, she threw those cases intentionally.
01:49:47.000She, under the black letter of the law, this wasn't an activist judge.
01:49:51.000This was the black letter of the law, was very clear that Halligan, who may be a great attorney, I'm not ripping her at all, she may be amazing.
01:50:01.000She did not have the authority to appoint Halligan into that position.
01:51:54.000Yeah, but again, I don't consider myself a Christian.
01:51:57.000We were just having a conversation the other day about, and I was talking to my wife about whether or not we need to start going back to church.
01:52:03.000And I still don't consider myself a Christian, but every single Christian has been like, just come anyway.
01:52:08.000And so we've talked about the importance of community and discussions of just faith and theology with our daughter as it is, but also the importance of being around good, trustworthy people because.
01:52:20.000To be honest, when you know the story that it tells, I went to meet up with Seamus after he went to a Latin mass, and everyone there is as prim and as proper, you know, traditional, respectful, good moral values, all that stuff.
01:52:32.000And that's the kind of people that you want to be around.
01:52:34.000The main reason I think we didn't do it is I just said, um, I don't want to be fake, I don't want to impose myself on people who are going to worship when we don't share those beliefs necessarily.
01:52:43.000I do believe in God, but uh, the response from literally 100% of people is come anyway, they don't care whether they really want to convert, like, not convert, of course, no, yeah, but you know, they they.
01:52:54.000The idea is like if you come, maybe you will start to believe or something.
01:52:57.000But for us, it's more so about being around people that we believe are good, honest, trustworthy, and things like that.
01:53:03.000And having our daughter grow up around people that we think are good and trustworthy.
01:53:08.000And I also think that there's value in learning the stories that are taught in the Bible as well.
01:53:13.000Whether you truly believe in the afterlife and resurrection, the general moral structure, I think, is a good thing.
01:54:46.000I would describe it as an intermediate move.
01:54:49.000So, when you're a kid, there's a trick called a nose slide, and it's where you jump off the board, turn it sideways, land with the nose of the board on the edge of a rail or ledge, and slide.
01:55:30.000You know, I skate decently well, not like I did when I was 19.
01:55:34.000But, you know, when Riley shows up and he does a trick like that, I was like, wow, he must have been pretty dang good at skateboarding when he was like 19, 20 years old.
01:56:03.000And, you know, the thing about Morrissey is that he was the candidate we were hoping was going to win because everybody knows him out here.
01:56:12.000And he's just like, he's a right populist guy.
01:57:21.000I think a quick point on that I saw on Monday that there was a Chinese tanker that did go through.
01:57:27.000It's a fascinating game of chicken, though, because in order to actually enforce a blockade, you'd have to embark on the Chinese tanker.
01:57:34.000And that would be a gigantic escalation, obviously, and something that the president would have to consider before actually moving forward and doing.
01:57:40.000And who knows if he would actually want to move forward with that, given that in one month he's supposed to be visiting China and having a face to face meeting with Xi.
01:57:48.000So it's an interesting game of chicken, right?
01:57:49.000Like, was the U.S. military really going to board this Chinese tanker and enforce this blockade?
02:01:10.000I say, there are five variables, and here's how I weigh each of them against each other.
02:01:14.000There are some people who believe we went to Iran to free the people who are being oppressed by the Iranian government and massacred, which I put it like a 0.1%.
02:01:22.000Like, very unlikely that's the case because we'd be invading Sudan and Eritrea.
02:01:39.000Antipathy says, can't wait to see Tim around midterms blaming Jew hatred for Republicans losing and not for the Kirk investigation or Trump replacing MAGA with Zionism.
02:01:48.000I don't believe that Jew hatred is going to cost Republicans the election.
02:02:19.000Well, here's the thing the Earth is round, and the ice wall surrounds the inner Earth from the greater Earth, where Atlantis and Tartaria control the seven continents because we're actually slaves locked in.
02:03:37.000If you want to read about the stuff that Tim and I were talking about, I wrote an in depth thing with a bunch of citations about why China was the actual target of this foreign policy that we have going on now.
02:05:45.000so we were just talking about how yesterday's episode of Tim Castile on Rumble has about a million views between Rumble and YouTube's got about a million which honestly like tracks comparably to where we were several months ago So, I'm wondering if Swalwell being accused of rape was big news, everybody wanted to watch it.
02:06:02.000And the people who hate Democrats have migrated off YouTube and they're now largely on Rumble.
02:06:13.000And here's what I think too one thing that we've seen is every time YouTube has an error, We tell people, well, we're still live on Rumble, and people then go and go on Rumble instead of YouTube.
02:06:23.000So YouTube viewership's been going down while Rumble's been going up.
02:07:05.000There was a Turning Point student who asked Vince his favorite podcasters that he'd recommend James Dobson, Andrew Colvitt, Theo Vaughn himself.
02:07:39.000You know, they just, you know, it comes down to the fact that I was, you know, big in the health freedom movement and, you know, I did all the work there.
02:07:59.000And the people who are tired of censorship because it happens nonstop have gone largely to Rumble.
02:08:04.000Listen, we're at a point now where it's like, you know, thanks to Bobby and some of the other people out there, and, you know, because of the work that we did, we've got, you know, we've got a hard ton, we got a ton of hard evidence backing what we're saying.
02:08:17.000So, you know, back in 2020, 2021, I was bringing evidence that I could put in a courtroom.
02:08:22.000And they were telling me, yeah, but the mainstream disagrees.
02:08:26.000Well, it doesn't matter if I can put it in a courtroom under penalty of perjury.
02:08:29.000I'm clearly not lying about it, right?
02:08:33.000But they would, they would sense me anyways.
02:08:35.000Now, It's like they can't even say that because now, even the mainstream, I mean, there's mainstream peer reviewed science back in the stuff we say.
02:08:43.000I'm sorry to pivot like this, but as I understand, you have a lot of your background in medical freedom advocacy.
02:08:50.000A lot of people in that space were very critical of the president because of Operation Warp Speed and developing these vaccines.
02:08:58.000Did you have any reluctance supporting him?
02:09:00.000Sounds like there's so many things that you would, you know, are inclined not to support him based off of, but this sounds like almost a red line for you.
02:09:07.000Despite that stuff, despite Operation Warp Speed, despite putting Anthony Fauci in a place of position during his first administration, you know, how did you support him despite that stuff?
02:09:59.000I'm going to speak, I'm going to speak, you know, and I know Bobby's doing a lot of great things and I support Bobby, but we're continuing to support the development of mRNA.
02:10:20.000Oh, it was one of the most just absolutely absurd things you could do.
02:10:24.000Followed by what we now have in Congress and supported by the president, legislation to essentially provide immunity, the same sort of immunity vaccine manufacturers have for pesticide manufacturers, chemical manufacturers.
02:10:38.000We've seen the approval of all sorts of new things.
02:10:40.000We're seeing more and more gene therapy.
02:10:42.000We're seeing manufactured meats, which I actually did a full breakdown and laid out the manufactured meats that they're growing in these tubes.
02:10:51.000They literally meet the scientific definition of cancer.
02:13:24.000And, you know, Aaron Seary and Bobby Kennedy and my good friend Sherry Tenpenny and some of these people who are long, long, long time health freedom advocates that have been anti vax, you know, they've been talking about these things.
02:13:35.000I start looking and literally without going into what would be an hour long conversation, right?
02:13:42.000When I look, there is not a single vaccine on the market that was approved using what I would say a true gold standard study initially.
02:15:08.000So, we have peer reviewed studies, and I'm not going to tell you, and I want to be clear on this because we're dealing with cancer in my house, right?
02:15:34.000So, when we look at health, One of the problems is when there are cheap alternative solutions that show a statistical signal, there's never any funding to study them, right?
02:17:39.000I can't, there's almost no instance where I would be a fan of radiation at this point.
02:17:43.000As far as some of the chemos, there are times when they're necessary, in my opinion.
02:17:47.000And I've got some great doctors who support that, who do integrative care with both alternative and mainstream.
02:17:53.000I think what we need to do, though, is what I've seen and what I've learned is we've got to get the money as a motivating factor cleaned out.
02:18:01.000Right now, medicine is driven by profit margins, not survival.
02:18:08.000I kind of fundamentally disagree on that point.
02:18:11.000I think the profit motive is what makes our medical system the most, I mean, depends on how you define productive, but effective in producing new medicines for people that wouldn't exist otherwise.
02:18:23.000If these companies weren't making a ton of money, they wouldn't be putting a ton of money into research and development, and then we wouldn't have the pipeline of individuals going into the healthcare industry.
02:18:32.000I think as a whole, The fact that there are a lot of dollars at play is what helps drive modern medicine further.
02:18:39.000And that's my understanding of the industry.
02:18:41.000If these companies weren't making any money, there'd be no incentive for them to produce newer and newer drugs.
02:18:46.000That's a big part of why the United States is the only country that continues to produce newer and newer drugs because everybody just rides their coattails around.
02:18:52.000There are tens of thousands of studies globally on cancer right now.
02:18:58.000Of that, and the numbers, it's been a couple months since I pulled this, is roughly 200 ish that are for cures instead of treatments.
02:19:26.000I think a pharmaceutical company would make a killing if they developed the cure for cancer and then they would have the IP over that cure for, I need to look at the copy.
02:19:37.000It would be at least 10 some odd years.
02:19:39.000This would probably be the most successful company.
02:19:41.000In pharmaceutical history, if they were to develop a cure for cancer, in my understanding.
02:21:14.000Well, if you consider natural selection or, you know, selection modification, you know, breeding plants, that's one thing when we start talking about modifying.
02:21:22.000So, for example, you know, to survive glyphosate, All of the seeds are modified, right?
02:21:39.000Now, did you know that that limits, that means those seeds are now the intellectual property?
02:21:46.000They have an intellectual property right in those seeds, the companies that make them, right?
02:21:50.000So, I mean, I think you need to take GMOs in the totality of what they've done throughout history, though.
02:21:55.000As I understand the reason that we are able to feed so many people on this planet, Is thanks to genetically modified foods because it increases survivability, increases yield, it makes crops much easier to grow, increases the yield essentially.
02:22:09.000And we wouldn't be able to have a population and feed everybody that we do now if we didn't have the GMOs.
02:22:14.000I think people forget that when we're talking about that.
02:22:17.000Have you heard of regenerative farming?
02:22:20.000Okay, so regenerative farming, you're right.
02:22:22.000You're probably not going to get the same yields as some of these chemically altered poisons, but I mean, you're also not going to be eating glyphosate.
02:22:30.000Regenerative farming has come a long way.
02:22:32.000I got a great friend, Howard Vlieger, who is a, I mean, he's got one of the most incredible regenerative farms I've ever heard of.
02:22:39.000He, you know, he talks about this lecture.
02:22:41.000There are solutions out there and things that we could move.
02:22:44.000But instead of creating an executive order where we're going to enshrine glyphosate poisoning for the rest of eternity and then make sure that the farmers who get cancer from it.
02:22:53.000I don't know enough about glyphosate specific.
02:23:17.000Yeah, longtime viewer, second time caller.
02:23:22.000I want to bring up something about the 30-aught six conversation that I've never heard anyone else speaking of.
02:23:27.000Not that they aren't, just haven't heard it.
02:23:29.000And it leads into a question for the guest.
02:23:33.000So, you did say that you didn't believe that it was 30-odd six when you first saw it because you know what 30-odd six does.
02:23:40.000And I believe I heard you say when Phil brought it up, or I concede to Phil's point, that bullets do weird shit when they enter human flesh.
02:23:47.000And so, credit to that because it does.
02:23:50.000We've got countless stories of that, both soldiers and non-soldiers.
02:23:55.000But one of the things, so the rifle is purported to have been Robinson's grandfather's.
02:24:00.000And it's very likely, if that's true, that the ammo came from his grandfather.
02:24:06.000Grandfather probably takes care of it.
02:24:07.000It's probably not current modern production high pressure 30 odd six that you would shoot in a modern 30 odd six rifle.
02:24:15.000It's probably either current production low power, something for like an M1 Garand, or it's hand loaded or it's surplus.
02:24:22.000So it's probably lower pressure than what people are typically used to.
02:24:26.000And we see all these videos on YouTube with shooting water jugs and brute and meat targets.
02:24:32.000Shout out to Paul Harrell, rest in peace.
02:24:36.000And we see what it does to fake flesh, or not flesh, but dead flesh.
02:24:40.000None of that really tells us what happens in human live tissue that's going to react at the stimulus, yada, yada.
02:24:48.000But like I said, you did concede to Phil's point earlier that bullets do weird shit.
02:24:52.000And I just never hear anyone talk about, well, is it modern production, higher pressure 30-odd six, or is it more like the stuff that was produced around the time that that rifle was?
02:25:03.000Because if I was that person owning an antique Mauser, I'd want to take care of it like I take care of the M1 Garand.
02:25:26.000I think Nick makes a great point when he was like, the Illuminati planted the wrong gun.
02:25:32.000If it was a conspiracy, I don't think they accidentally planted the wrong gun.
02:25:36.000That's like, unless they intentionally planted the wrong gun so that this conversation would happen, throwing us off the real story or something.
02:26:59.000And I point to the 30 odd six because I've got experience with that gun.
02:27:03.000I can say firsthand, and that seems like the most likely or the single biggest smoking gun.
02:27:09.000But if you look at all of the different things throughout the story, I was being quick earlier when we were talking about it, but I think that just in totality, it doesn't add up.