Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Ex-FBI Says CIA Targeted Alex Jones, Jones Says HE WILL SUE CIA w-Doug Mackey | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 And undercover investigation.

00:00:10.000 A man who is a former FBI analyst saying that he's a contracting officer or was for the CIA.

00:00:17.000 He claims that they targeted Alex Jones.

00:00:19.000 They nudge people towards taking actions that they want to see happen like, quote, chopping off Alex Jones's legs by taking his money from him.

00:00:27.000 He also claimed the FBI had around 20 undercover officers in January 6, a number that we've not heard before.

00:00:35.000 And this may be a tremendous revelation.

00:00:37.000 Alex Jones says he will be suing the CIA over this because it appears, at least according to the admission, there may be some evidence this is the case.

00:00:45.000 But others say this guy, this is a blowhard.

00:00:48.000 He's just some secretary from the FBI who has no idea what he's talking about, who's trying to talk big game to someone he's trying to date on an undercover video.

00:00:55.000 And we've heard that many times before when it comes to undercover videos, particularly from Project Veritas and James O'Keefe, so take it all with a grain of salt, but we will go over the story.

00:01:03.000 The Daily Wire has it.

00:01:05.000 And we'll talk about that.

00:01:06.000 Plus, we have the woman who, I don't know what the right word is, acquired Ashley Biden's diary, has now been sentenced to a month in prison.

00:01:15.000 And many are saying, well, thus, this confirms what is in the diary is legitimate.

00:01:21.000 Because it's a single diary.

00:01:22.000 It's not like somebody went in there and changed things, and oh boy.

00:01:26.000 The stuff in that diary is pretty messed up.

00:01:28.000 So we're going to talk about that.

00:01:30.000 Plus, we've got some really funny stories.

00:01:32.000 A former NPR staffer says the company... Oh, this one's really good, actually.

00:01:36.000 They were trying... They got woke, right?

00:01:38.000 But he says they wanted to write more stories targeting black and Latino readers, and all that did was bolster their white liberal audience.

00:01:46.000 Because that's what we know.

00:01:47.000 All of this DEI stuff is just for white liberals.

00:01:50.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:51.000 Before we get started, my friends, I want to say this.

00:01:55.000 On April 9th, 1865.

00:01:57.000 The Confederacy surrendered.

00:02:00.000 And, uh, it is the anniversary of the surrender.

00:02:03.000 Not necessarily the end of the war, because fighting still persisted well after this, but this was the official surrender.

00:02:08.000 Lee and Grant had met.

00:02:10.000 And, uh, there's some urban legends about how it all went down, and myths, so who really knows?

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00:05:25.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and the case against him is Doug Mackey.

00:05:30.000 Thanks for having me, Tim.

00:05:31.000 Who are you?

00:05:32.000 What do you do?

00:05:33.000 I am.

00:05:34.000 I'm living in Florida now.

00:05:35.000 I am a former.

00:05:36.000 I was a former pro-Trump influencer on Twitter.

00:05:40.000 And I'm currently fighting a case where I was convicted for conspiracy against rights.

00:05:44.000 I shared a meme with Hillary that said, you can text your vote, text Hillary to this number.

00:05:52.000 And so I shared this meme.

00:05:53.000 I was arrested just shortly after Biden's inauguration, seven days after his inauguration.

00:05:58.000 Wow.

00:05:59.000 And it's been a roller coaster ride.

00:06:01.000 I was convicted in Brooklyn, New York, in a federal court, and now we're fighting the case on appeal.

00:06:07.000 This is particularly interesting because there was a similar instance where a leftist made a video saying you could text your Voting Fair Trump supporter.

00:06:07.000 Wow.

00:06:15.000 And for a variety of reasons, we'll get into the whole case and the arguments there, she didn't see any charges against her.

00:06:20.000 And there are some arguments people have made that she made a video, it wasn't a picture or whatever, whatever the arguments may be, but we'll definitely talk about that.

00:06:26.000 So thanks for joining us on this 1000th episode.

00:06:30.000 Should be fun.

00:06:30.000 Phil's hanging out.

00:06:31.000 Hello, everybody.

00:06:32.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:06:33.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.

00:06:35.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:06:37.000 I'm here in meat world, Phil.

00:06:37.000 What's going on, Ian?

00:06:39.000 In meat world.

00:06:40.000 I'm ready to dominate meat world.

00:06:41.000 So we're on the, uh, what is this?

00:06:42.000 The anniversary of the, uh, surrender, the end of the civil war.

00:06:46.000 Just like, so I guess, what is this?

00:06:47.000 Tonight's like, the metaphor is that we're going to end the culture war.

00:06:50.000 The story, like, I'm reading the story of the surrender.

00:06:54.000 And there's just, you know, there's romantic stuff.

00:06:56.000 Grant referred to the stories of how it went down as romance.

00:06:59.000 People wanted it to be this grand thing, but it was like two guys came together, they rolled their eyes, they wrote a few things down and said, okay, and they got up and left.

00:07:06.000 But there's some legends about like, he looked at, he glanced over at Lee's sword, realizing that ordering the surrender of their weapons would be humiliating, could prolong the war.

00:07:15.000 So he offered them to keep their weapons.

00:07:17.000 And then Lee, feeling the honor of Grant's actions, offered his dress sword to him and Grant refused.

00:07:22.000 And he's like, that, get out of here.

00:07:23.000 out of here. Oh, it never happened. No. Well, he did. He did tell them they could keep weapons.

00:07:28.000 Cool. Yeah. But then like Lee apparently was like, take my sword. Your honorable man.

00:07:33.000 They somehow reconciled man after a civil freaking war and you reconcile. That's big. 0.73

00:07:38.000 No, they didn't. Like they did kind of centralized power, which is a big.

00:07:41.000 Some people say the republic died with Abraham Lincoln's seizure of power.

00:07:44.000 But it is nice that we didn't split up and keep at war until it became a weak, forgotten piece

00:07:51.000 of a continent on earth.

00:07:53.000 It'd be like having another Canada. 0.97

00:07:55.000 Almost, yeah.

00:07:56.000 I mean, there's a lot of stuff that would have happened.

00:07:58.000 Like, there's big, significant changes.

00:08:00.000 The United States probably wouldn't have survived, either the North nor the South.

00:08:05.000 There was so many foreign forces that were involved that had an interest in the U.S.

00:08:10.000 breaking up Britain. 0.57

00:08:12.000 They'd have survived.

00:08:13.000 You think so?

00:08:14.000 Yeah, I mean, look at Canada.

00:08:15.000 Well, yeah, I mean, Canada, but Canada is technically still British.

00:08:20.000 So yeah, but Commonwealth.

00:08:22.000 I mean, look, in the 70s, the Queen shut down Australia's government.

00:08:27.000 So that I mean, that happened in, you know, what we consider modern time.

00:08:31.000 It happened in my lifetime.

00:08:32.000 I have loved this intro, but I got to give it over.

00:08:34.000 Yes, sir.

00:08:35.000 Mr. Man on the side.

00:08:36.000 Hey, yeah.

00:08:37.000 Number one thousand.

00:08:38.000 Everyone remember the first episode you watched Tim cast?

00:08:41.000 They posted a chat and a lot of those bugs around on the spinning UFO for a minute.

00:08:45.000 No, no, it's a lot of the little bugs.

00:08:46.000 I don't know, they're all over the place.

00:08:47.000 Yeah, the stink bugs.

00:08:48.000 Yeah, let's get started, guys.

00:08:49.000 The stink bugs are starting to wake up because it's getting warm out.

00:08:51.000 I noticed that.

00:08:52.000 Good news as well is the, uh, the, the, the, the Ted, the, the Toedags are now Tadpoles and a couple little guys are swimming around doing Tadpole stuff.

00:09:01.000 Can you get video?

00:09:04.000 I could, yeah.

00:09:05.000 Not right now, maybe tomorrow.

00:09:06.000 But it's fascinating because they start as little black dots.

00:09:09.000 And then they just become ovals.

00:09:11.000 And then part of the oval becomes a tail and it starts swimming around.

00:09:13.000 It's wild.

00:09:14.000 It's fun to watch.

00:09:14.000 But there's probably like a thousand baby toads.

00:09:18.000 Anyway!

00:09:18.000 Here's the story.

00:09:20.000 We have this from The Daily Wire.

00:09:22.000 C.I.A.

00:09:23.000 officer admits to undercover journalists that F.B.I.

00:09:27.000 agents attended January 6th protest at Capitol.

00:09:30.000 When asked if the public will ever find out, the officer responded, nope, and they probably never will.

00:09:35.000 This is wild.

00:09:36.000 An official with the C.I.A.

00:09:38.000 told an undercover journalist that members of the F.B.I.

00:09:41.000 were in attendance at the protest at the U.S.

00:09:43.000 Capitol on January 6th, 2021, and also highlighted methods that intelligence agencies use to disempower political opponents.

00:09:48.000 Notably in this, and we will get into this moving through the story, He said that they effectively educated the public as to how to go after Alex Jones, chopping off his legs and taking his money away, leaving them satisfied it having been done, which is a wild thing to say.

00:10:05.000 But let's let's we'll start here.

00:10:06.000 We'll talk about what's going on with this January 6 claim.

00:10:09.000 Gavin Oblenus, a self-proclaimed contracting officer for the CIA and former member of the FBI, was caught on camera by an undercover journalist with sound investigations as he discussed January 6.

00:10:20.000 Oblenus claimed that former President Donald Trump incited a riot before going on to say that roughly 20 undercover FBI agents were in the crowd.

00:10:27.000 Quote, I thought you said there were FBI agents in the crowd at J6.

00:10:31.000 The undercover journalist asked Oblenus, quote, There are.

00:10:34.000 There always are when there's a big protest in D.C., just in case it gets out of hand like that.

00:10:38.000 He responded before going on to say, There wasn't enough to turn the tide.

00:10:42.000 I'm talking we had maybe 20.

00:10:44.000 You need 1,000 to get rid of that crowd.

00:10:47.000 Just to go through, to observe, to see what they can hear.

00:10:50.000 You know, that kind of thing.

00:10:51.000 The video also shows Oblenus affirming that the FBI didn't want the public to know that they had agents embedded in the crowd, and saying that he personally knows agents who were in attendance.

00:11:00.000 They work for the agency now, he said about the former FBI agents referencing the CIA.

00:11:05.000 Do people know that the bureau was in the crowd?

00:11:08.000 The undercover sign investigation journalist asked, with Oblenus responding, nope, and they probably never will.

00:11:14.000 FBI Director Christopher Wray previously stated in a congressional hearing concerning January 6th that he was not sure there were undercover agents on the scene, doubling down an answer to Rep Andy Biggs saying, I do not believe that there were undercover agents on the scene.

00:11:27.000 I'll just, we'll start here and I'll say this.

00:11:30.000 It was always insane to argue there were no undercover agents on January 6.

00:11:35.000 There are undercover agents at every single protest, ever.

00:11:39.000 And if there aren't, they're not doing their jobs.

00:11:41.000 So we know, the question is, to what degree did they have undercover agents there?

00:11:47.000 Did the undercover agents have any role in enticing, inciting, or instigating violence?

00:11:52.000 That's what people want to know.

00:11:53.000 And because they've continually lied about it, people are going to start assuming the worst.

00:11:57.000 I kind of look at it like, I'm trying to get an objective perspective from like the current government.

00:12:03.000 They're like, we got this insurgent guy, this Trump guy who we can't stand.

00:12:06.000 We don't want him to win.

00:12:07.000 He's got a rowdy crowd outside the Capitol.

00:12:09.000 Let's get some guys out there. 0.73

00:12:11.000 Maybe let's move it along.

00:12:13.000 I'm saying hypothetically, this would be a tactic you could use to move things along.

00:12:16.000 And you're like, let's just get these guys to break some windows and bust up stuff and It got a little violent, but it didn't get bodies on the ground.

00:12:25.000 I was talking to my dad about it, and Jacob Chancellor, the shaman, in there dancing or singing, probably, potentially saved a lot of lives by keeping people really calm, because there was a lot of potential for things to go real aggro and machine guns to get opened up.

00:12:39.000 It really wasn't that horrific as, like, riots can be in a city's capital, especially a nation's capital.

00:12:46.000 They don't need undercovers to start violence.

00:12:48.000 So I was in Ferguson, and there was a bunch of people dancing in the street.

00:12:53.000 There had been riots, don't get me wrong, they burned down a gas station.

00:12:55.000 Uh, this protest, they had been going on, and on this particular night, I can't remember which night it was, there were people just dancing in the street.

00:13:01.000 Nothing was really happening, I was walking up and down West Florissant Avenue, and then, all of a sudden, a cop walked up and just chucked a flashbang at a group of people standing there doing nothing.

00:13:13.000 Instantly, there was a riot.

00:13:15.000 There was no reason for the cops to do that.

00:13:16.000 It doesn't take much either like a couple of cops push a few guys and then or break a window and then scream go we're going you know that kind of thing and that's really kind of all it takes to get the mob moving.

00:13:25.000 There were people in Ferguson who were not from Ferguson who wanted to just smash and grab and as long as people were just dancing in the street nothing was happening.

00:13:33.000 As soon as this cop chucked a flashbang, just underhanded it right into the crowd, it created panic and chaos of people screaming, and then instantly, the smash and grabbers ran up to the stores, smashed and started stealing everything, and then all hell broke loose.

00:13:47.000 I do not understand why a police officer would do that for any reason.

00:13:50.000 Now, as for January 6th, to bring it back to J6, you don't need undercover people to have started this conflict.

00:13:56.000 Many people have pointed out that it was the police that started shooting rubber bullets and throwing flashbangs at people before any fighting even started, which triggered fighting.

00:14:04.000 Is that true?

00:14:04.000 Because I've heard that also.

00:14:05.000 I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying there are people who are claiming, you know, that that's what instigated the fight.

00:14:10.000 I'm saying in my experience, I have seen instances where police have done this, and there are people posting videos they purport shows before any fighting starts, a cop throws a flashbang or fires a rubber bullet or something to that effect.

00:14:20.000 Which is, a guy in uniform does it.

00:14:22.000 The other thing to point out for J6, most of the people who are being charged were not part of the riot.

00:14:28.000 There was a riot on one side of the building, those people should be criminally charged for being violent and for storming through the barricades and all that.

00:14:34.000 And then there were people who on the other side of the building had the door opened.

00:14:37.000 There's police officers standing at the door.

00:14:40.000 There's one video where the cop holds open the door as protesters walk in.

00:14:43.000 This is not an exaggeration.

00:14:45.000 In fact, it was so obvious and egregious that one individual was acquitted of all charges because a judge said, yeah, that cop's waving him in.

00:14:52.000 There's videos of cops taking selfies with people.

00:14:54.000 There's videos of people on J6 asking officers if they need help.

00:14:58.000 Tell me, what's going on?

00:14:59.000 Can I help you?

00:14:59.000 And those people still get criminally charged.

00:15:01.000 Yeah, it's... I don't even really... I mean, I'm not gonna claim one way or the other if the FBI or anybody, like, were instigating this thing.

00:15:07.000 It could have just been the crowd got rowdy and they...

00:15:09.000 least worst scenario they let it happen they were like let's just let some windows get broken so we can use this as a you know as a cast his belly to go after trump to make sure he doesn't get elected or whatever the case he was i mean worst case scenario instigated it but the thing is like with the trump stuff like that it was about the certification of the election like he was all that it was already like The as soon as like when January 6th happened, there was never a question about whether or not Joe Biden was going to be certified.

00:15:36.000 No, there was there was no on January 6th.

00:15:39.000 There was never an option like in the real world.

00:15:42.000 There was because because they were going to call the F they were going to call the The National Garden, it wasn't going to be where Donald Trump might.

00:15:50.000 Not through force, but this one I'm wondering, Mike Pence had the opportunity to send the electors back to the states because of what Pennsylvania done by changing the election against their constitution.

00:15:58.000 But they were never going to let it happen.

00:16:00.000 Who's they?

00:16:01.000 The federal government.

00:16:02.000 Yeah, who's they though?

00:16:06.000 Now we're just derailing.

00:16:08.000 It's the federal government.

00:16:09.000 Look, essentially, the government's position was, this is done.

00:16:15.000 Right?

00:16:15.000 That's the governor's position.

00:16:16.000 And they were never going to let that ever change.

00:16:19.000 There was no option.

00:16:20.000 There was no, maybe this will work.

00:16:23.000 It was just never going to happen.

00:16:25.000 It was a riot.

00:16:26.000 The people that were rioting were expecting to be treated the way that Antifa had been treated all year.

00:16:32.000 They obviously weren't going to be treated like that because it was the federal government that was like, oh, you're attacking us.

00:16:39.000 But there was never an option that the government might actually have Donald Trump Managed to get it.

00:16:46.000 That was never real.

00:16:47.000 And Ian, that was just absolutely wrong, okay?

00:16:51.000 When asking who is they, you would say, who is they though?

00:16:53.000 Who is they though?

00:16:55.000 But your point actually was not bad.

00:16:56.000 Is that true?

00:16:57.000 So Mike Pence has the opportunity and kind of he has a duty as the vice president to, if something is up with the electorates, for whatever reason, he's supposed to send them back to the states to do it again.

00:17:06.000 He could.

00:17:07.000 He could.

00:17:08.000 Oh, so he can say, yeah, even though it was messed up.

00:17:10.000 Not anymore he can't.

00:17:11.000 After this, they passed a bill saying, okay, now you can't.

00:17:14.000 They passed a bill saying the vice president can't do that, and then they said that was something he couldn't have done, but in fact, no, no, he could have back before you passed the bill.

00:17:21.000 Absolutely he can.

00:17:22.000 There's a reason why the role exists.

00:17:24.000 It's the craziest thing. 0.99

00:17:25.000 These people are zombies. 0.97

00:17:26.000 They're in a cult, okay? 0.99

00:17:27.000 When we say the vice president will count the votes, it's because he could be like, no.

00:17:33.000 And it's like, okay, well then what?

00:17:34.000 He has to!

00:17:36.000 And if he doesn't, you're in an impasse.

00:17:38.000 Then you will need a legal remedy for that constitutional crisis.

00:17:41.000 So Mike Pence, because he's just... I don't know.

00:17:45.000 He's a bumbling daughter, didn't care. 1.00

00:17:47.000 He's like, uh, whatever. 0.91

00:17:49.000 Path of least resistance, man.

00:17:51.000 That's what this country is all about.

00:17:53.000 I do.

00:17:53.000 I believe that it was a path of least resistance, but I wouldn't be surprised if people went to it when they're like, dude, you want to play for the rest of your life?

00:17:59.000 There had been Republicans who had requested that they, uh, like members of their state legislature who had said, this is improper.

00:18:06.000 We want to answer this.

00:18:08.000 And Mike Pence was like, nah.

00:18:09.000 The I don't think that it was actually that Mike Pence did was the path of least resistance.

00:18:15.000 I do think that the Supreme Court by not hearing Texas's case by saying we're not going to hear this.

00:18:21.000 I think that was where the path of least resistance because the last thing that the Supreme Court wants to do is Chime in on any of that stuff.

00:18:27.000 They don't want they don't want to be the reason that someone was elected There's already those kind of accusations Surrounding George Bush from 2000 right there were there are people out there that say the Supreme Court Decided it whether or not you agree with that is besides the point I want to add this context.

00:18:43.000 I think it's very important.

00:18:44.000 Kyle Serafin, who we've had on the show, I believe more than once, maybe not, says, if this confirms so many things you thought you weren't thinking.

00:18:51.000 This guy is my age.

00:18:52.000 He was checking in patients at the VA when I started as an FBI agent, and I was 10 years older than many.

00:18:58.000 In 2022, he was a secretary at the FBI.

00:19:01.000 Be skeptical, people.

00:19:02.000 Jeez.

00:19:03.000 So we take a look and we can see this guy, Gavin Oblenus, who's currently at the Department of Homeland Security.

00:19:09.000 Let's see, does he have his career path?

00:19:11.000 Here we say, from December 2022 until the present, he's an immigration services analyst at the DHS.

00:19:17.000 He was at the Bureau from June 2022 to December 2022, only seven months.

00:19:22.000 Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that was wrong.

00:19:23.000 From May 2021, Fair point.

00:19:35.000 Maybe he was just a secretary checking people in.

00:19:37.000 That's fine.

00:19:38.000 But I do think it's fair to point out that when he says, at least according to the Daily Wire's writing of this, he knew people who were there on the ground and they're now working for the agency and that he's at the agency.

00:19:48.000 I think we have a credible source.

00:19:50.000 This is a guy who worked for the FBI.

00:19:52.000 He was an analyst.

00:19:53.000 Call him a secretary.

00:19:54.000 Sure.

00:19:55.000 Would a secretary know about the goings-on of FBI agents?

00:19:59.000 Yeah, he sounds like he could and maybe would. 0.89

00:20:02.000 So at the very least, yes, absolutely be skeptical because this could be some dude who was working in a mailroom who knows what garbage he was doing at the FBI.

00:20:12.000 Someone contacts him wanting to go on a date and then he starts talking all this big game because he's trying to get laid.

00:20:18.000 However, I don't think on a date you need to admit to these things.

00:20:24.000 Right?

00:20:24.000 So this is kind of the joke that we make about James O'Keefe.

00:20:28.000 Like, James will send, like, some young woman will go, like, meet a guy on Tinder or something.

00:20:33.000 And she'll be like, ooh, so what do you do for a living?

00:20:36.000 And he's like, I work for the government.

00:20:38.000 And then she goes, oh yeah?

00:20:39.000 Do anything interesting?

00:20:40.000 Ha! 0.89

00:20:41.000 Let me tell you about all the corrupt actions we take for no reason.

00:20:43.000 Like, you don't need to claim to do corrupt things.

00:20:47.000 In order to win someone over on a date. 0.74

00:20:49.000 Like this guy didn't need to say he was targeting Alex Jones.

00:20:52.000 They had undercover agents on J6.

00:20:54.000 He didn't need to say that.

00:20:56.000 I don't know why he would make that up.

00:20:57.000 Yeah, it's a bold thing to make up.

00:21:00.000 It's- but it's- but also let's clarify too, like...

00:21:03.000 If- I can understand if you're a guy on a date, and you're talking to someone- I think this guy's gay, I'm

00:21:09.000 not sure.

00:21:09.000 And you're talking to someone, and you say something like,

00:21:12.000 I'm very rich and successful and I own very many cars.

00:21:15.000 Like, that I get you lie about.

00:21:18.000 You know, like those are Trump kind of lies, where Trump's like, I got a hole in one, everyone knows it, it's true, trust me, I gotta make sure I tell everybody.

00:21:25.000 The best kind of lies.

00:21:26.000 I mean, honestly, Trump probably did get a hole in one.

00:21:28.000 I think he was super excited for that.

00:21:29.000 So good for him.

00:21:30.000 You know, I'm very proud.

00:21:31.000 But his Trump's kind of lies are like the embellishment of the size or value of his buildings.

00:21:35.000 And that's what you'd say to impress somebody.

00:21:37.000 You wouldn't come out.

00:21:39.000 Like, could you imagine if Trump was like meeting with someone was like, yeah, let me tell you how great I am.

00:21:43.000 I commit fraud all the time.

00:21:44.000 Here's how I do it.

00:21:44.000 Here's documents proving it.

00:21:46.000 You'd be like, what?

00:21:47.000 You don't need to do that.

00:21:48.000 Maybe this guy wanted to blow the whistle, deep down, and he just did it on a date.

00:21:52.000 This is what James O'Keefe was saying, that many of these people are very guilty inside, and they need someone to tell them they did good.

00:22:02.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:03.000 Like, they did something wrong, and they desperately want someone to say, no, no, what you're doing is good, thank you for doing it.

00:22:10.000 Like going after Alex Jones, targeting him to take his money from him, I have to imagine that your average person, knowing that they're lying and manipulating the circumstances to destroy someone's life, no matter who it is, might feel bad about it, and desperately want to be told you're a good guy and you're doing the right thing, because they're guilty.

00:22:28.000 I can imagine, like, I'm going to the Nazis for a second, like, all the Nazis that would have blown the whistle if, like, James O'Keefe had been around with Project Veritas and the internet, being like, dude, they're taking Jewish people to camp, like, talking about it, like, Whoa, things like that coming out and then you'd be like, is that real?

00:22:42.000 Like the Reichstag fire?

00:22:43.000 Yeah, we kind of said it ourselves.

00:22:45.000 Uh, stuff like that.

00:22:46.000 I don't know.

00:22:46.000 So I, I don't, I'm with Kyle.

00:22:49.000 Be skeptical.

00:22:50.000 It's a guy saying something.

00:22:51.000 That's all it is.

00:22:52.000 But this seems, I mean, it doesn't seem like it's out of the ballpark.

00:22:55.000 If this guy worked there, man, I just don't know how to verify these people he's talking about that are now at the agency.

00:23:01.000 Let's jump to this next portion of the story.

00:23:02.000 We have this clip from Benny Johnson.

00:23:04.000 Bombshell, he says!

00:23:06.000 Alex Jones confirms he will sue the FBI and the CIA after a CIA agent admitted agency targeted Jones to destroy his career.

00:23:15.000 Quote, I'm planning on launching a lawsuit against the CIA and FBI.

00:23:19.000 I've retained firms to sue for civil rights violations, government racketeering operation.

00:23:24.000 Let's play the clip.

00:23:25.000 But now that this has come out, this is a FBI agent, a CIA boss, he's a contract manager over a large contract operation.

00:23:34.000 That's a boss.

00:23:35.000 Okay, I'm gonna pause right there.

00:23:37.000 I think Alex may be misunderstanding.

00:23:39.000 I don't know this guy is actually a boss.

00:23:42.000 I think he was a contracting officer, so that may mean that he's sitting in an office and he handles who gets contracts.

00:23:49.000 So, to be fair, that could be a contracted sort of boss, but, you know, let's see what he says.

00:23:54.000 That's like a mini section chief saying all of this.

00:23:58.000 And admitting all of this like it's no big deal.

00:24:01.000 He needs to be subpoenaed by Congress.

00:24:03.000 Yes.

00:24:03.000 I am planning to launch a lawsuit against the CIA and the FBI.

00:24:09.000 We have to bring all this out.

00:24:11.000 And right as my bankruptcy comes to a close, and right as all this stuff's being finalized, it's really God working here that this came out at this time.

00:24:18.000 You just said you were planning on suing the federal government.

00:24:22.000 What would an Alex Jones versus the US government look like?

00:24:26.000 Well, I'm talking to different law firms right now that specialize in this.

00:24:29.000 In fact, when I get off the feed with you, I'm going to get back on the phone with the lawyers.

00:24:33.000 It's obviously a civil rights violation.

00:24:36.000 It's a government racketeering operation using cutouts.

00:24:39.000 And look, I mean, they come after my mother, my father, my wife in these mediations.

00:24:44.000 They've said, listen, just come out against the Second Amendment and we'll drop all this.

00:24:49.000 I mean, they've done that repeatedly.

00:24:52.000 And they've even said, listen, we're a mafia, and there's nothing you can do to stop us.

00:24:56.000 To my face, in front of my lawyer, in front of Norm Pattis. 0.91

00:25:00.000 And so they're very arrogant. 0.77

00:25:01.000 I mean, these are the sellouts. 0.99

00:25:02.000 These are the traitors. 0.68

00:25:03.000 These are the people that really love being under the corrupt FBI's wings, under the CIA's wings. 0.93

00:25:08.000 They get a thrill.

00:25:09.000 They get to go out and persecute fellow Americans, lie about them, say all these horrible things, and then say you said it, steal your identity.

00:25:16.000 Silence you so they can all pile in on you, make movies about themselves with judges and flashbulbs and, oh, we're so great.

00:25:24.000 We went out and got the big Goliath.

00:25:26.000 So in the undercover investigation video, the guy says that this was a civil issue.

00:25:31.000 They didn't actually use the weight of government to go after Alex Jones.

00:25:35.000 They simply educated the public on the appropriate means for going after Alex Jones.

00:25:41.000 Basically, educating them on what to do, thus, quote, chopping off his legs, taking his money away.

00:25:47.000 When the journalist asks, effectively, like, paraphrasing, are you satisfied?

00:25:51.000 They're like, yeah, we got what we wanted, we chopped his legs off, we took his money from him.

00:25:54.000 He's bankrupt.

00:25:56.000 That seems to be the goal.

00:25:57.000 Now, why would a guy who Worked for the FBI in any capacity.

00:26:04.000 Claims he's working for the CIA.

00:26:06.000 Brag about the things they did to go after Alex Jones.

00:26:10.000 Well, this guy clearly doesn't like Donald Trump.

00:26:12.000 Maybe he thinks he's the per- You know, the thing about these undercover journalists is they always, when they're in these meetings, act like they're on the side of going after Alex Jones.

00:26:22.000 Like they want Alex Jones to be gone after, or they hate Donald Trump.

00:26:26.000 Maybe this guy's just saying, oh yeah, we totally did that.

00:26:29.000 And it's substantially less egregious than he makes it sound because he is blowing smoke.

00:26:34.000 He is, you know, talking big smack.

00:26:36.000 I'd say this.

00:26:37.000 You get a former FBI agent and someone who claims to be in the CIA.

00:26:42.000 If it is true that he actually is a CIA contracting officer, sounds like you've got a credible witness statement.

00:26:47.000 And that should be enough for Alex Jones to file a lawsuit and then seek discovery.

00:26:52.000 Have a court say like, okay, let's get all your communications and get to the bottom of what exactly was going on.

00:26:57.000 I believe a judge should.

00:26:58.000 I don't know that a judge would.

00:26:59.000 What is your thoughts, Doug?

00:27:01.000 Well, I was just thinking the Cheryl Atkinson case and good luck getting discovery out of the government.

00:27:06.000 I mean, that can take decade.

00:27:08.000 That can take a decade.

00:27:09.000 Her case has been going on for a decade.

00:27:11.000 What's the case?

00:27:13.000 She's alleging, well, there's a lot of really credible evidence that the government planted some kind of spyware on her computer to spy on her.

00:27:21.000 They didn't like what she was reporting on, and she was mainstream.

00:27:23.000 She was CBS News.

00:27:25.000 And so she's suing the government. 0.99

00:27:27.000 I don't know all the intricacies of this case, but It's really, uh, and she's trying to get discovery out of the government and it's really difficult.

00:27:37.000 Extremely difficult.

00:27:38.000 A lot of appeals and a lot of stonewalling. 0.98

00:27:41.000 They just kind of want to push it down the road rather than say, no, you can't.

00:27:44.000 They'll just say, oh, they always do this.

00:27:46.000 Trying to get documents from the government.

00:27:48.000 They jam it up. 0.51

00:27:49.000 They block you at every turn because they're crooked. 1.00

00:27:53.000 They are corrupt. 1.00

00:27:53.000 They're evil people. 1.00

00:27:54.000 Yeah.

00:27:55.000 Like Alex is right.

00:27:55.000 They're a mafia.

00:27:56.000 And dude, they're also disorganized.

00:27:58.000 I was trying to pay my $120 piece of over-unspent tax from Maryland, and it's like, dude, I can't log into the website.

00:28:05.000 It won't send me my email.

00:28:06.000 So I call the place, like, you got to get your email.

00:28:08.000 They're like, well, then we can't help you.

00:28:08.000 I'm like, I didn't send it.

00:28:09.000 You can't help me.

00:28:10.000 You don't want my money.

00:28:11.000 Can I just pay on my phone?

00:28:12.000 They don't want my money.

00:28:13.000 They want to go mail some check.

00:28:15.000 No, they want you to have liability.

00:28:17.000 They want to be able to go, you have an unpaid debt, so now we own you.

00:28:20.000 Maybe that's a tool they can use too, but at this level of me with just a hundred bucks, it's like, it's just a disorganized system that doesn't kick back an email when it's supposed to, and that's just like the state government.

00:28:31.000 I can only imagine how crazy it gets up there with paper.

00:28:34.000 I've heard that it's terribly disorganized at the Department of Education.

00:28:37.000 I've heard that.

00:28:38.000 Anecdotal, obviously.

00:28:41.000 I don't know why I brought up how disorganized it was.

00:28:47.000 It's not intentional, outright, that they want to have a broken system.

00:28:51.000 But having a broken system, especially on things like taxes, means they'll have, they'll be able to dangle something over your head.

00:28:58.000 The tax code stuff is like, they want to incentivize people.

00:29:01.000 They really want to use the tax code to get people to do things.

00:29:04.000 So if they can offer tax deductions, so that way you'll do something, that's a means that the government has used ever since the income tax became, you know, something that they've been able to manipulate.

00:29:15.000 They do it to... the federal government does it to states.

00:29:19.000 The reason that there's a nationwide age limit of 21 for drinking...

00:29:24.000 Is because the federal government, the DOT, says, we're not going to give you any money for your roads if you don't.

00:29:30.000 And they do that kind of stuff all the time.

00:29:32.000 It is like extortion.

00:29:34.000 The only difference between the federal government and the mob is like the government you elect, as opposed to the mob just takes control.

00:29:40.000 But either way, at the end of the day, the boot's the boot, you know?

00:29:44.000 So that's what the government is.

00:29:47.000 The reason the government exists is so that way it can force people to do certain things to keep society together.

00:29:54.000 That's the basic bottom of the barrel.

00:29:56.000 I think we are getting towards the point where people will no longer recognize the government.

00:30:01.000 Yeah, I was joking about that before the show.

00:30:02.000 We talked about it yesterday.

00:30:04.000 They say, like, I do not recognize your authority here.

00:30:08.000 But I was like, last night we were talking about that, I was like, I literally don't recognize this government.

00:30:11.000 I don't know what's going on.

00:30:12.000 I don't know.

00:30:13.000 What's the most powerful branch?

00:30:14.000 Isn't the president not supposed to be able to take us to war?

00:30:17.000 I don't recognize that ability.

00:30:19.000 That doesn't make any sense to me.

00:30:20.000 It's not even about recognizing as in acknowledging.

00:30:22.000 It's about recognizing in the literal sense.

00:30:24.000 Like when someone walks up to you and says, John, you remember me?

00:30:27.000 And you go, I do not recognize you.

00:30:28.000 Who are you?

00:30:29.000 Our government is not, the president has no authority to declare war.

00:30:29.000 Yeah.

00:30:32.000 That's not our government.

00:30:34.000 Mm-hmm right and here we are but the War Powers Act says that you know He's allowed to for a limited time as long as Congress doesn't vote against it instead.

00:30:45.000 It's literally Congress Voted to give the power to George Bush to carry out war Congress doesn't have the authority to do that There's nothing in the Constitution that says, Congress, you can abdicate your responsibility for declaring war by voting to give the president the power.

00:31:04.000 That is literally passing the buck to the executive because Congress doesn't want to face their own voters.

00:31:11.000 That's exactly what they did.

00:31:12.000 And there's no reason for that to not be just totally thrown out as completely and totally illegitimate.

00:31:20.000 But they just said, well, we're going to do this, and what are you going to do?

00:31:23.000 That Civil War movie is coming out on Thursday.

00:31:26.000 I guess they say it's coming out on Friday, but the first screenings are on Thursday.

00:31:30.000 And apparently Taylor Hanson and Andy Ngo have footage in the film.

00:31:34.000 Oh, really?

00:31:35.000 Yeah.

00:31:35.000 Cool.

00:31:36.000 Someone posted a screenshot of the credits, and it's like archival footage from and includes a list.

00:31:40.000 Oh, wow.

00:31:41.000 And then all these leftists are super angry that that footage was included.

00:31:44.000 And I'm like, well, you know, they were the one filming it.

00:31:46.000 But, man, it's on the mind right now.

00:31:49.000 And the reason I bring that up, we had these street takeovers, this one that went particularly viral where a guy's car got taken.

00:31:55.000 We talked about it the other day, but, you know, in terms of not recognizing the government, there's two forms of it.

00:32:02.000 One, Alex Jones being like, the FBI and the CIA went after him, according to this guy.

00:32:07.000 That's a political witch hunt.

00:32:09.000 That's politically targeting a media personality.

00:32:15.000 The guy even says in the video, well, he didn't do anything that would send him to prison.

00:32:18.000 The guy, uh, the journalist is like, why not, you know, put him in jail?

00:32:20.000 He's like, well, he didn't do anything to go to jail.

00:32:23.000 A billion dollars.

00:32:25.000 They wanted, they wanted more than they wanted the GDP of France.

00:32:27.000 Is this all for the Sandy Hook thing?

00:32:28.000 Yeah.

00:32:29.000 That's all for that?

00:32:30.000 All for that.

00:32:31.000 And so it's a wild case for sure.

00:32:33.000 Yeah it is.

00:32:34.000 The judge, it was a summary judgment just like Trump.

00:32:37.000 The judge said he's in default because he wouldn't hand over certain documents.

00:32:41.000 Alex claims he gave everything he had and no matter what he did they kept saying nope.

00:32:47.000 And so a judge could just do that.

00:32:49.000 This is what I get worried about.

00:32:51.000 The only group of people right now in this country that are keeping this country together are conservatives.

00:32:56.000 That's it.

00:32:57.000 Liberals do not recognize the authority of police.

00:33:00.000 They want to abolish and defund them.

00:33:02.000 They throw bricks at them.

00:33:03.000 They do not recognize the authority, nor do they like anything about the US government.

00:33:07.000 They firebombed a federal building in Seattle for three months.

00:33:11.000 But I will say not just liberals, because I have a lot of people that consider themselves...

00:33:14.000 Not just liberals? What are you talking about? I didn't mention liberals.

00:33:16.000 You said liberals just then. Did I?

00:33:17.000 It's the, yeah, you mean like the leftists, kind of this mob movement that's...

00:33:20.000 Right, right, right.

00:33:21.000 This communist attempt, yeah. Because there's a lot of liberal people...

00:33:23.000 Then I stand corrected and I meant the leftists.

00:33:25.000 The liberals, there are a lot of people that are just, find themselves liberal and like,

00:33:28.000 kind of want to keep it together too.

00:33:29.000 Maybe they don't know how.

00:33:30.000 Maybe they're being led by the media and mass media, unfortunately, this archaic.

00:33:35.000 But I stand by what I said.

00:33:37.000 It's only conservatives that are keeping this country together.

00:33:39.000 Because if the left took over, liberals would just march in lockstep.

00:33:43.000 So if conservatives at any point simply said, we do not recognize both in the literal sense and in the acknowledging sense, this government, there's no government.

00:33:55.000 It's over.

00:33:56.000 The left will immediately be like, free for all.

00:33:59.000 They've already been doing it.

00:34:01.000 Roving gangs of unaffiliated political, of just unaffiliated politically, taking over the streets in numerous cities.

00:34:07.000 And that makes sense.

00:34:08.000 That's what they want.

00:34:09.000 They come in with this communist mentality.

00:34:11.000 They want to infiltrate the United States, disrupt it, and then make people on the other side give up because it's so annoying, or they're so frustrated, or it's so- They want to break it apart.

00:34:18.000 Yeah.

00:34:19.000 From the ashes of the old, we shall build a new one.

00:34:20.000 They want us to break it apart for them.

00:34:22.000 They want us to do it to ourselves.

00:34:23.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:34:24.000 They want to just break.

00:34:26.000 And so conservatives, Trump supporters, are desperately trying to make America great again.

00:34:31.000 And so what happens then is you have this corrupt FBI and CIA, hyper-partisan political communist faction, and it is the Trump supporters who recognize them as legitimate.

00:34:43.000 The left doesn't recognize any of the government.

00:34:45.000 They don't care.

00:34:47.000 I mean, they went to Atlanta, broke into a police city, look at this massive territory, firebombing construction equipment, burning down private homes, flipping over vehicles.

00:34:59.000 They do not recognize the authority of this government.

00:35:02.000 And then you have Trump supporters who the police show up, The journalist will put his hands behind his back, be put in cuffs and shackles, and he will march politely to the court where he'll be railroaded.

00:35:16.000 Have you heard of the term anarcho-tyranny?

00:35:18.000 Yes.

00:35:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:21.000 If at any point in this country, and this is what I fear, conservatives just start saying things like, there's no government anymore, and they start acting the way the left does, then the United States will cease to exist.

00:35:32.000 There will be a faction of a violent, we call it a mafia, I guess.

00:35:39.000 I would call it the Enclave.

00:35:40.000 I think that's the best way to describe it.

00:35:41.000 For those that aren't familiar, in the Fallout series, After a nuclear war annihilates everything, remnants of the U.S.

00:35:48.000 government form a group called the Enclave, which is the descendants and technology and weaponry, the continuity of U.S.

00:35:55.000 government.

00:35:56.000 But no one recognizes them other than they are a warring faction.

00:36:00.000 In Star Wars, it's called the First Order.

00:36:03.000 That's right.

00:36:03.000 It's the leftovers from the Empire.

00:36:06.000 That's right.

00:36:07.000 If the conservatives simply start saying, and it is happening to a certain degree, we've seen certain things like the Bundy standoff.

00:36:15.000 We've seen things now with Second Amendment sanctuaries. 0.61

00:36:19.000 The left starts this thing where they say, and it's liberals too, we're an immigration sanctuary.

00:36:24.000 We're not going to comply with federal law.

00:36:26.000 New York, California are sanctuary states.

00:36:29.000 Law enforcement is barred from working with the federal government.

00:36:32.000 This is the makings of dissolution of the federal government.

00:36:36.000 The conservatives, for the most part, just march in lockstep with the federal government and say, well, you know, they're the government, even when they do bad things.

00:36:42.000 But now we're getting two-way sanctuaries.

00:36:44.000 Now we're starting to get Texas defying the federal government.

00:36:48.000 And to an extent, the Supreme Court in certain areas And now we're getting to that point where conservatives might just start acting the way the left does and saying federal law enforcement has no authority.

00:36:59.000 When that happens, you will have a first order, as Phil calls it from Star Wars.

00:37:04.000 Sure, they've got military power.

00:37:06.000 They're basically pirates.

00:37:09.000 They're just a large faction of militarized individuals.

00:37:11.000 How they get resources will be interesting.

00:37:13.000 They will seize them by force.

00:37:15.000 It will be an occupying force, unrecognized by various groups, and this is how you get the makings of Civil War, at least.

00:37:20.000 I'd be interested to see what happens in that A24 film on Thursday.

00:37:24.000 We're going to see it because there's five factions, according to their map.

00:37:27.000 There's, what is it, like the Western forces, the Eastern Alliance or something, there's the Loyalist States, and then there's California and Texas as their own republics.

00:37:37.000 So they're each independent?

00:37:38.000 California is one?

00:37:39.000 California is its own republic.

00:37:40.000 Texas is its own republic.

00:37:42.000 Then there's like the Northwest, which is rebel, the Southeast rebel, and then a strip through the center of the country, which is a loyalist.

00:37:48.000 I think if people continue to rely on the federal government, but complain about it and try not to recognize it while they're still reliant on like centralized electric grids and power, water, like a lot of it is municipal.

00:37:59.000 It's localized, but you know, the federal government will Can cut money off and reroute water sources to states and things. 0.96

00:38:05.000 If we were less reliant on the government, then we could create communities and stay peaceful.

00:38:10.000 And I don't think it would be as big of a deal.

00:38:12.000 I think the federal government might actually kind of lay off.

00:38:14.000 But if we continue to rely on it, it's going to keep pushing, I think.

00:38:17.000 I think the issue is the left cheats, the Democrats cheat, and the conservatives just keep playing the game.

00:38:26.000 I mean, imagine you're playing a game of Monopoly, and you're watching the other person playing just grab money out of the bank and stick it in their pile, and you go, whoa, hey, you can't do that.

00:38:36.000 And they go, yeah, I can.

00:38:37.000 Do you want to keep playing or not?

00:38:38.000 And they go, yeah, I guess.

00:38:39.000 Well, you can't win!

00:38:40.000 And so what I mean by this is, when you look at sanctuary states, Democrats inflate their population sizes by bringing in non-citizens and refusing to allow them to be deported.

00:38:53.000 They're doing it en masse right now, and this is going to give them extra congressional seats and extra electoral votes.

00:39:00.000 This is not a legitimate form of governance, but the red states just go, well shocks, they got 17 more seats than us in Congress somehow, yet again! 0.90

00:39:07.000 I guess we'll just have to live the way they tell us we have to live.

00:39:11.000 Someone was saying we brought up those numbers from the Social Security Administration about how many people are being registered to vote without IDs and how many are coming back dead, like a third of the registrants are coming back dead.

00:39:21.000 Like in Texas last week it was, I think, what were we looking at, like 0.2%?

00:39:25.000 Yeah, 0.2%.

00:39:26.000 There's like an anomaly I'll poke every once in a while where you're like, how come a third of the 80,000 people, 25,000 of them were dead?

00:39:33.000 That's weird.

00:39:34.000 It was one week.

00:39:35.000 It was February 17th in Missouri.

00:39:37.000 One third of voter registrants with no IDs came back as dead.

00:39:41.000 So that's something they said, send it to Lara Trump.

00:39:42.000 Because I think, is she running the RNC now?

00:39:44.000 Or is she about to be running the RNC? 1.00

00:39:46.000 Get it to Lara Trump immediately.

00:39:47.000 This is like big time, big news for the RNC.

00:39:50.000 They need to know.

00:39:51.000 Let's jump to the story from the National Review.

00:39:53.000 50 anti-Israel protesters arrested for shutting down Senate cafeteria.

00:39:59.000 The cafeteria?

00:40:00.000 That's an insurrection.

00:40:02.000 So they stormed into the building.

00:40:04.000 They've got red painted hands. 0.98

00:40:06.000 Austin's legacy equals genocide.

00:40:09.000 What is this?

00:40:10.000 In D.C.?

00:40:11.000 The red painted hands thing, like, that symbolizes the blood of Israelis that they killed. 0.78

00:40:18.000 Like, that came from, like, Palestinians that had Israelis' blood on their hands. 1.00

00:40:23.000 That's what the red is from.

00:40:25.000 So I don't know what the hell they're thinking.

00:40:28.000 Nothing.

00:40:29.000 Like that's literally like, yo, we get what they're talking about.

00:40:31.000 We have Jews blood on our hands and we're protesting.

00:40:33.000 Fighting stop. 0.99

00:40:34.000 It is insane.

00:40:34.000 That's about as far as the thoughts go.

00:40:36.000 Insane.

00:40:37.000 They're not even thinking that dude, look.

00:40:40.000 I grew up with a lot of these protesters.

00:40:42.000 They're thinking nothing.

00:40:43.000 There are organizers who think certain things, but they have limited understanding.

00:40:48.000 It's usually some non-profit will have some organizers who will come and help them. 0.98

00:40:52.000 There'll be donations, there'll be activists, and they'll get this money from a variety of sources, and they'll get stupid people, and they'll say, do you want to feel like you belong? 0.95

00:41:02.000 And they say, please, yes, I just want purpose. 0.99

00:41:04.000 And they say, then stand next to me.

00:41:05.000 That's the reason.

00:41:06.000 The reason why these people are there.

00:41:08.000 Most of these people couldn't tell you about what's going on in the world.

00:41:11.000 And that's the issue I took when we were talking to one guy, Liam.

00:41:14.000 Shout out.

00:41:15.000 He's a good dude.

00:41:15.000 I like him.

00:41:16.000 Yeah, Cosgrove's the man.

00:41:17.000 But I asked Liam Cosgrove, like, how come you know so much about Israel but not other conflicts around the world?

00:41:22.000 It's a legitimate question.

00:41:23.000 I am not telling you you are not allowed to care about Israel.

00:41:25.000 I am asking you why Israel and not something else.

00:41:28.000 There's no answer.

00:41:29.000 And it's because it is just a, it is a hot issue to talk about.

00:41:34.000 I get it.

00:41:35.000 Israel is a big issue.

00:41:36.000 You are allowed.

00:41:37.000 If someone said, no, you're completely right.

00:41:39.000 I think what's going on in Burma is serious. 1.00

00:41:41.000 Taiwan, very, very serious.

00:41:42.000 I can talk to you about, you know, the U.S.

00:41:44.000 shifted its weapons production.

00:41:46.000 It's contracting from desert theater to water, Pacific theater, weaponry.

00:41:51.000 Yeah, the U.S.

00:41:52.000 started ordering missiles.

00:41:53.000 I am deeply concerned about the U.S.

00:41:54.000 prepping war with Taiwan.

00:41:56.000 Right now, though, in the news cycle, Israel seems to be taking the cake.

00:42:00.000 So I've been focused on them.

00:42:01.000 I think it's a fair point to make.

00:42:03.000 But there are a ton of people like these activists who are deranged.

00:42:07.000 And if you asked them, how many kids died in Ukraine?

00:42:09.000 They'd say, I don't know.

00:42:10.000 You'd say, how many kids died in Burma?

00:42:12.000 Don't know.

00:42:13.000 How many kids are dying over the battles in Kashmir?

00:42:17.000 No idea?

00:42:17.000 You literally don't know or care about anything happening in the world, do you?

00:42:21.000 Yemen? 0.54

00:42:21.000 Come on. 0.54

00:42:22.000 Tell me about Yemen.

00:42:23.000 Nothing.

00:42:24.000 Yeah, a hundred thousand dead in Yemen over the past, I think, eight years.

00:42:29.000 And you don't know anything about it?

00:42:31.000 But you care about Israel!

00:42:33.000 No, I don't believe it.

00:42:34.000 It's someone who came up to them and said, do you want to care about something?

00:42:37.000 Not really.

00:42:38.000 Do you want to pretend like people like you?

00:42:40.000 Yes, please.

00:42:41.000 Okay, then do as I say and we'll pretend we like you.

00:42:43.000 I keep thinking about a guy who's there who's like, I'm here because I like her.

00:42:46.000 And he's like another girl. 0.78

00:42:47.000 You know, it's fictitious, you know, but maybe.

00:42:50.000 I'm willing to bet a lot of the guys who are there are doing it because they find some girl attractive.

00:42:54.000 That's sad, but often true.

00:42:55.000 And a lot of the women that are there are doing it because other people told them it was the popular thing to do. 0.99

00:43:00.000 It's easier than learning to play a musical instrument.

00:43:04.000 Just show up at the protest rally and tell the chicks that you're down with whatever the protest is. 0.99

00:43:08.000 Yeah, but to be fair, then a guy shows up to the rally with an acoustic guitar and he's like, hey girls, listen to this one.

00:43:14.000 It's called My Heart Breaks for Gaza.

00:43:16.000 And then he starts playing the song and then they're like, oh, you're saying socially acceptable thing.

00:43:20.000 And he's like, now I'd like to talk to you about the crisis in Yemen.

00:43:23.000 And they go, nah, we're not interested in that.

00:43:24.000 We don't care.

00:43:26.000 I was going to say, do you guys think these kinds of protests are even worth doing?

00:43:26.000 Nope.

00:43:30.000 I'm like, geez, I don't want to shut down the idea of the value of protest.

00:43:33.000 Cause like, that's kind of like a world economic, they'd love to have this technocratic non-protest society.

00:43:37.000 This is all luxury protests.

00:43:39.000 It's all luxury beliefs because it doesn't affect most... The people in the United States that are protesting the war in Gaza, this doesn't affect them.

00:43:47.000 This is all them posturing and performing for people.

00:43:51.000 That's all that it is.

00:43:54.000 Unless they're actually Israeli or Palestinian or have family there, it doesn't really affect them.

00:43:59.000 You know who satirized this really well was Tom Wolfe.

00:44:02.000 What'd he do?

00:44:03.000 He wrote a book and he described it called Radical Chic.

00:44:07.000 You know, it's a lot of very wealthy, sort of old money involved in this, and they're just doing it as, like he said, like a pose, a posture, and it just becomes sort of the thing to do, you know?

00:44:20.000 In Manhattan.

00:44:20.000 He was living in Manhattan and he wrote a couple books about this.

00:44:23.000 He satirized it really well.

00:44:25.000 Well you just said that the story Ben Affleck's daughter now saying that she is in fact a he.

00:44:31.000 And many people are pointing out that all these celebrities just have like all of their kids are trans and non-binary.

00:44:37.000 And it's just ultra wealthy affluent liberals desperately trying to out virtue signal each other.

00:44:44.000 That's what it is.

00:44:45.000 You know I worked for Greenpeace.

00:44:47.000 They told me that getting arrested was a badge of honor.

00:44:50.000 That it's a, you know, you can brag about it.

00:44:52.000 You get arrested protesting, and then you can go to the other side, like, I've been arrested before.

00:44:56.000 For protesting for the planet.

00:44:56.000 Yeah?

00:44:56.000 What for?

00:44:58.000 It's like, oh wow, badge of honor.

00:44:59.000 And no, it's all just nonsense.

00:45:01.000 That's the things they tell young people who are trying to find something to do because people want to do good, and they trick you into doing bad things for them.

00:45:11.000 And that's what you get with stuff like this.

00:45:12.000 Now I'm wondering, Are they going to be charged with insurrection?

00:45:17.000 And who incited them?

00:45:18.000 I think it was Joe Biden.

00:45:20.000 How far did it go?

00:45:21.000 What happened?

00:45:22.000 Oh, they shut down the cafeteria.

00:45:24.000 I mean, eating lunch is an official duty, right?

00:45:27.000 Oh, this is at the Capitol?

00:45:29.000 I missed where it's at.

00:45:30.000 Yeah, it's the Capitol.

00:45:31.000 It's the Senate office building where they were eating.

00:45:33.000 They said the Senate can't eat until Gaza eats.

00:45:40.000 Uh-huh.

00:45:41.000 But because it was non-violent, maybe they won't hit him with trespassing charges?

00:45:46.000 It's so frustrating hearing stuff like that, because everybody's sending all kinds of aid to Gaza.

00:45:50.000 If it's not getting to the people of Gaza, it's because Hamas is the government of Gaza, and they're not passing out all the stuff to the people in Gaza.

00:45:59.000 The people of Gaza are suffering because Hamas is a bad government.

00:46:03.000 Like, that's why they were suffering before.

00:46:05.000 Hamas took their water pipes to build rocket launchers. 0.82

00:46:08.000 Like, they literally are just an absolute train wreck of a government.

00:46:14.000 And that's why Gaza suffered.

00:46:15.000 But it was pretty bad before Hamas. 0.83

00:46:17.000 In like the 90s, it was pretty rough.

00:46:19.000 They were pinned in pretty hard for a while.

00:46:22.000 Don't know enough about what Gaza was like in the 90s.

00:46:25.000 Are you familiar with much about how the Palestinian Liberation Organization, PLO, Israel Defense Government treated those people and how they were?

00:46:31.000 I don't know much about the PLO.

00:46:33.000 What's that?

00:46:35.000 I don't know much about it.

00:46:36.000 To be honest, I have not studied deeply, but I don't know if I'd put all the blame on Hamas because the barricades, Israel barricading them in and controlling what gets in there is not Hamas's fault.

00:46:46.000 If they were doing it before Hamas existed, then it's not Hamas's fault.

00:46:49.000 I mean, kind of.

00:46:50.000 The thing about Hamas is they decided to launch the attack that ultimately resulted in this war.

00:46:55.000 October 7th.

00:46:55.000 That's the thing about all of this.

00:46:56.000 If you're going to blame somebody for this immediately, the first person to blame is Hamas. 0.82

00:47:00.000 And they're still in control.

00:47:01.000 It's an easy thing to do.

00:47:02.000 They're still holding Americans, dude. 1.00

00:47:04.000 They have Americans.

00:47:05.000 No love for terrorist organizations in general, except George Washington, who apparently was a terrorist according to King George.

00:47:12.000 Listen, the historical way that governments have been created has been through violence, right?

00:47:18.000 That's just the way that it's been.

00:47:20.000 The decision by the international community that that is no longer acceptable happened after World War II, and it was because of the nuclear weapon.

00:47:30.000 That no longer is it acceptable according to the UN and the world order.

00:47:36.000 There are people that violate that.

00:47:37.000 When that happens, the UN condemns them and sometimes there are wars and stuff like that.

00:47:42.000 But generally, the point is, because nuclear weapons exist, we can't have wars of aggression anymore.

00:47:51.000 So that's the end of wars of aggression.

00:47:54.000 But that's how countries were created for all of human history prior to the nuclear weapon.

00:48:01.000 It just got too dangerous to have industrial scale mechanical war.

00:48:07.000 Like, you can annihilate cities and stuff.

00:48:09.000 You see Coleman Hughes on Rogan?

00:48:11.000 I saw part of that.

00:48:12.000 It was great.

00:48:12.000 He made a really great point.

00:48:13.000 He said, Hamas has perfected the blending of military conflict with civilian population.

00:48:22.000 And so this puts Israel in a position where they have either, they have two choices, either engage in a conflict where you are dealing with people who have blended themselves into the civilian population, or stop fighting.

00:48:35.000 What do you do?

00:48:36.000 If they stop, they're basically going to declare carte blanche for all terrorist organizations to start setting up their operations within dense civilian populations for the purpose of inhibiting anyone's ability to stop them.

00:48:47.000 Or they carry on with with their campaigns, which results in high civilian casualty.

00:48:53.000 Now, according to Coleman, I'm not saying he's right.

00:48:55.000 He said that, you know, because Joe Rogan says 30,000 civilian deaths.

00:49:00.000 That's a genocide.

00:49:02.000 And Coleman said it's not 30,000.

00:49:04.000 Actually, that's the numbers Hamas gives.

00:49:07.000 Israel says 13,000 soldiers were killed.

00:49:09.000 And so, if you were to take those two numbers, then you're looking at something like 17,000 civilian deaths to 13,000 soldiers killed, which is actually a better ratio.

00:49:20.000 It's a stupid way, it's an unfortunate way of saying things, but it's a better ratio than the United States has in their campaigns with Afghanistan and Iraq.

00:49:27.000 Are they considering military-age men soldiers? 0.99

00:49:30.000 Because I think the United States was doing that for a while.

00:49:33.000 Under Barack Obama, they started doing that.

00:49:36.000 Like when the civilian death toll was getting too high, Obama was just like, if they're fighting each other, then they're not civilians.

00:49:44.000 And they started blowing them up.

00:49:45.000 Yeah, that's like too many of them.

00:49:46.000 I'm concerned for those numbers.

00:49:47.000 I mean, well, either way, either way, there's an interesting point brought up by Coleman in that.

00:49:53.000 If Hamas is allowed to operate the way they do, then they'll never stop. 0.56

00:49:58.000 Yeah.

00:49:59.000 It will literally never stop.

00:50:00.000 And he's making the point that Hamas wants Israel to keep doing what they're doing so they can then go to the world and say, help, help, you have to stop them.

00:50:09.000 Exactly.

00:50:10.000 Like Hamas wants to have, like Hamas, every single innocent person that dies is good for Hamas. 0.99

00:50:17.000 So Hamas doesn't have any problem with innocent people dying. 0.93

00:50:21.000 Like, that's why they took hostages, and that's why they have hostages, because their religion says if they die and Allah says that they're a martyr, then they go right to heaven.

00:50:32.000 So it's no big deal.

00:50:33.000 It's no problem for people to die.

00:50:35.000 It's fine.

00:50:35.000 That's cool.

00:50:36.000 Because they go right to heaven.

00:50:37.000 That's the whole scope of it.

00:50:38.000 And people that say, oh, that's not really what they think, or people that apologize for that type of ideology, or those kind of religious beliefs, that's what they say.

00:50:51.000 That's exactly how they look at it.

00:50:52.000 So they don't care about innocent people.

00:50:54.000 They don't care about innocent people dying.

00:50:56.000 That is good for them, because one, those people go to heaven.

00:50:59.000 Two, the international community says, oh, Look at how bad the people of Gaza are being treated because there's all these innocent people dying and they come down on the Israelis.

00:51:09.000 That is a win-win for Hamas. 1.00

00:51:12.000 So when you're fighting someone that has incentive to have innocent people die, like not just doesn't care, but incentive, You're going to end up with terrible numbers of innocent deaths because they're not actually trying to help the people get out of the way.

00:51:30.000 They're inhibiting, like Hamas is actually inhibiting people from getting out of the way sometimes.

00:51:35.000 And a lot of the people that are in Gaza don't really have a negative opinion of Hamas.

00:51:40.000 I'm sure there's some, but they... Why do you think that?

00:51:44.000 Because there were polls and like 77% of Gazans approve of Hamas.

00:51:49.000 Recently too.

00:51:50.000 The first elections were won in the 2000s and Hamas won, becoming the official government.

00:51:56.000 And then what the left says is, yeah, but there's no actual elections now.

00:52:00.000 It's like, they do polls and everyone's like, they're in support of it.

00:52:03.000 My testosterone's flowing while I was working out.

00:52:03.000 Sorry to interrupt you, Phil.

00:52:05.000 It's fine.

00:52:06.000 But I'm interested.

00:52:07.000 So what was it, like, just a poll of a thousand people, though?

00:52:09.000 And then they were like, see, that proves that everyone supports Hamas.

00:52:11.000 I have no idea.

00:52:12.000 That's a big statement.

00:52:14.000 Listen, Hamas was elected in, like, 2005.

00:52:17.000 Now, granted, the first thing Hamas did is said, we're not having any more elections.

00:52:23.000 So, like, that sucks for the people of Gaza.

00:52:25.000 But at the same time, if there were elections, it is highly likely that Hamas would win again. 0.63

00:52:33.000 Like, nobody wants to touch the people of Gaza because if the people of Gaza go to Egypt, they're going to undermine the government of Egypt. 0.84

00:52:43.000 If the people of Gaza go to Jordan, they're going to undermine the government of Jordan. 0.96

00:52:49.000 There are a lot of people that are revolutionaries, or at least have that revolutionary mindset, that say, we're going to take over the government so that way we're in control in Gaza.

00:52:58.000 That's just the way that it is.

00:53:00.000 They say like history rhymes, but it doesn't necessarily repeat.

00:53:02.000 And this is like, they have, it's this group of people that are being persecuted.

00:53:07.000 Well, you could argue this, and they have nowhere to go.

00:53:09.000 This is like, this is the Jews. 1.00

00:53:10.000 Part of the reason they don't have anywhere to go is because they try to overthrow everywhere they go.

00:53:15.000 There was a boatload of Palestinians in Jordan, and they were trying to overthrow the King of Jordan, so he booted them.

00:53:21.000 Same thing in Kuwait.

00:53:23.000 There was a boatload of Palestinians in Kuwait.

00:53:25.000 They started messing with the government, so the Kuwaitis booted them.

00:53:28.000 That stuff has happened, too.

00:53:29.000 Why did the King of England threw the Jews out of England at one point?

00:53:32.000 And I think it was because they were meddling in the politics.

00:53:35.000 I'll look into that so I can bring more info.

00:53:37.000 Before any of us were born.

00:53:39.000 It was hundreds of years ago. 1.00

00:53:41.000 The Jews have been exiled from countries over the millennia for reasons, and I've always thought it was just severely racist and stupid. 0.99

00:53:46.000 I don't know why. 0.99

00:53:47.000 I've never really looked into exactly why they did.

00:53:50.000 But then he started listening to those Hitler speeches. 0.62

00:53:52.000 The AI Hitler speech is crazy.

00:53:55.000 Racism was normal until the 40s.

00:53:59.000 People just were like... It's still normal everywhere but the US.

00:54:03.000 That's true too, but it's like...

00:54:05.000 In the U.S.

00:54:06.000 it's like, or in the West, is really the only places that it's like racism is odd.

00:54:13.000 It is, the rest of the world is way more racist and has been way more racist forever.

00:54:19.000 So, like, this idea that racism is anomalous in the United States or whatever, it's not.

00:54:24.000 I want to jump to this story.

00:54:26.000 We actually, this is from the third.

00:54:27.000 Someone super chatted us, so I pulled it up.

00:54:29.000 This is from the Texas Secretary of State, and this is pertaining to those anomalous voter registrations with no IDs.

00:54:36.000 Now, something doesn't make sense.

00:54:38.000 And I figured this would be the case.

00:54:40.000 But for those that aren't familiar, we have something called the Help America Vote Verification System, which shows for the week ending March 30th that Texas had 225,132 registration verification requests.

00:54:51.000 30,000 had no match.

00:54:51.000 25,132 registration verification requests.

00:54:56.000 30,000 had no match.

00:54:58.000 190,193 provided a match.

00:55:04.000 These are new registration applications according to the Social Security Administration.

00:55:10.000 I want to make sure everybody has the full context here, so I will pull up what is HAVV.

00:55:13.000 They say, to comply with the law, they developed a verification system.

00:55:17.000 States must only submit a request to us for new voters who do not present a valid driver's license during the voter registration process.

00:55:25.000 Now we have a statement from Texas.

00:55:28.000 The reporting going around was that 1.25 million people had attempted to register in Texas without an ID.

00:55:35.000 Many of them were verified in the Social Security Administration database.

00:55:40.000 What they say, this is from Jane Nelson, Secretary of State.

00:55:44.000 There have been recent and inaccurate reports about the voter registration process and ID requirements in Texas.

00:55:49.000 Please see the statement from Secretary of State Jane Nelson below.

00:55:52.000 Quote.

00:55:53.000 It is totally inaccurate that 1.2 million voters have registered to vote in Texas without a photo ID this year.

00:55:59.000 The truth is, our voter rolls have increased by 57,711 voters since the beginning of 2024.

00:56:06.000 This is less than the number of people registered in the same time frame in 2022, which was about 65,000, and in 2020, which was 104,000.

00:56:14.000 When Texans register to vote, they must provide a driver's license or a social security number.

00:56:19.000 When an individual registers to vote with just a social security number, the state verifies that the SSN is authentic.

00:56:26.000 While federal law allows individuals to register to vote without a photo ID, Texans must actually show proof of ID to vote.

00:56:33.000 The 1.2 million figure comes from the Social Security Administration website, which is supposed to report the number of times states have asked to verify an individual's social security number.

00:56:42.000 The SSA number is clearly incorrect, and we're working now to determine why there is such a large discrepancy.

00:56:49.000 So this is where things get very interesting.

00:56:53.000 Why is there a discrepancy every single time?

00:56:59.000 Why is the Social Security Administration reporting over and over again every two weeks that Texas has a quarter of a million people trying to register?

00:57:09.000 Could it be that there is a shadow campaign that Texas is even unaware of?

00:57:14.000 Yes, it could be.

00:57:15.000 Yes, that is exactly what I think.

00:57:16.000 And Texas is going, we haven't asked for these verifications.

00:57:19.000 This proves it's false.

00:57:21.000 And whatever's actually going on is that it's not going through Texas.

00:57:25.000 It's going around Texas.

00:57:27.000 Yeah.

00:57:28.000 So let me just say right now, we don't know why the Social Security Administration is claiming every two weeks, a quarter of a million people registered to vote in Texas.

00:57:38.000 So I think that clearly puts it well above 1.2 million.

00:57:42.000 And so, we showed March 30th, now we have March 16th.

00:57:45.000 March 16th, Texas, 227,000.

00:57:48.000 30,000 got kicked back, 192,000 were found to have matches, 4,570-something were dead.

00:57:53.000 Let's go back another two weeks, as Texas only reports apparently every two weeks.

00:57:56.000 Or the number only appears every two weeks.

00:57:58.000 Here we have, now with, where's Texas?

00:58:00.000 224,569.

00:58:01.000 189,000 were found to have matches.

00:58:06.000 Let's go back another two weeks, which would bring us to February 17th.

00:58:09.000 Oh, this is the one where you get Missouri.

00:58:12.000 Where's, uh, where's Missouri at?

00:58:15.000 There we go.

00:58:15.000 With 23,000 dead people trying to register to vote.

00:58:19.000 How does that happen?

00:58:20.000 That's, that one's interesting, right?

00:58:21.000 That's a third of the people.

00:58:22.000 That's crazy.

00:58:23.000 What if you go back further, like back into the last year or two?

00:58:25.000 219,000, 170,000 founding matches. These are all clearly distinct numbers.

00:58:31.000 Now just to show you, if I go back to March 23rd, they don't have Texas. Texas only appears every

00:58:38.000 other week. You can see most other places don't have these kinds of numbers.

00:58:41.000 What if you go back further, like back into the last year or two? I want to see these.

00:58:45.000 Yeah, we've done all that.

00:58:45.000 Pick a year, pick a date.

00:58:46.000 Yeah, okay.

00:58:47.000 Yeah, something like 2022.

00:58:48.000 Can you go back that far?

00:58:49.000 Yes, we can.

00:58:50.000 What was voter registration like in 2022 in Texas?

00:58:52.000 And I get it, we're coming up on an election.

00:58:53.000 You gotta give me a month.

00:58:55.000 Yeah, March 20th.

00:58:56.000 March 26th, 2022?

00:58:56.000 Yeah, something like that, yeah.

00:58:58.000 Alright, let's see if this is one of the reporting weeks for it.

00:59:00.000 A couple years ago.

00:59:01.000 It is.

00:59:01.000 Texas had 15,000. 15.

00:59:04.000 At the same time period, two years ago, 15,000.

00:59:06.000 Okay, fine.

00:59:08.000 Texas says, no, no, no, this is clearly a mistake.

00:59:11.000 It's clearly a mistake.

00:59:13.000 Okay, how is the Social Security Administration every two weeks reporting this massive number?

00:59:18.000 Okay, fine.

00:59:19.000 They hired a new intern, and he's typing in the wrong numbers, I guess.

00:59:22.000 No, no.

00:59:23.000 I mean, I'm glad you said that, but obviously, that would be very unlikely.

00:59:27.000 That happened three times in a row.

00:59:29.000 Or, maybe.

00:59:31.000 Shadow campaign?

00:59:33.000 Yeah, maybe they're, so you're thinking they're, they're signing them and then it just goes around Texas, like they go through the Texas state for the registration, but then the paperwork just goes to the Social Security Administration?

00:59:41.000 It's not actually Texas requesting the verifications.

00:59:45.000 It's someone masquerading as Texas to the Social Security Administration.

00:59:48.000 Perhaps the issue is to find voters.

00:59:51.000 Maybe the real issue here is to figure out who's dead, who's alive, and who can vote, and they're not real registrations.

00:59:57.000 Oh, and they're just looking for people to go ballot harvest later or something.

01:00:00.000 Yep.

01:00:01.000 Man, three weeks in a row, or six weeks in a row, 250,000.

01:00:04.000 Oh no, it's not six weeks in a row, bro.

01:00:06.000 It goes all the way back.

01:00:07.000 Is it counting like two weeks?

01:00:09.000 In two weeks, 250,000.

01:00:09.000 So are we actually reading... It may be, it may be.

01:00:12.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:00:13.000 So here we go.

01:00:14.000 So this is February 3rd, was not one of the reporting weeks, so we need to go to January 27th.

01:00:20.000 And Texas, 125,000 with 100,000 matches found.

01:00:26.000 So this was January 27th.

01:00:27.000 Let's go back to January 13th to see Texas.

01:00:32.000 And we've got 89,000.

01:00:33.000 So it seems like the number is picking up.

01:00:36.000 It's ramping up.

01:00:37.000 So it may be around that number.

01:00:39.000 And then that was the 13th.

01:00:40.000 So then we would have to jump back to December 30th.

01:00:44.000 And what do we have for Texas?

01:00:46.000 So it's ramping up.

01:00:48.000 Ramping up substantially.

01:00:50.000 Let's go back to December 16th and see what we get for Texas.

01:00:54.000 $80,000.

01:00:55.000 And here, we'll do a little sorting algorithm technique and we'll jump back to, let's say, July 29th.

01:01:00.000 I don't know if this is one of their reporting weeks.

01:01:02.000 Let's see.

01:01:02.000 It is $234,000.

01:01:03.000 That's a big week.

01:01:04.000 Yeah.

01:01:04.000 $174,000 had no match.

01:01:04.000 134,000.

01:01:05.000 That's a big week.

01:01:07.000 Yeah.

01:01:08.000 150,000.

01:01:09.000 74,000 had no match.

01:01:10.000 What is this?

01:01:13.000 Texas is saying, this is clearly a mistake.

01:01:16.000 I think that's overly simplistic.

01:01:17.000 Pennsylvania had 94,000.

01:01:18.000 In Texas on that week, it was a fourth of them had no match.

01:01:23.000 July 29th, 2023, a quarter of a million people with no IDs were listed as registering to vote.

01:01:28.000 How could the Social Security Administration falsely report this every other week for a year?

01:01:35.000 I just don't think they will.

01:01:36.000 And Texas has no idea what's going on?

01:01:37.000 I have no idea.

01:01:39.000 So the Texas Attorney General should look at this, obviously.

01:01:41.000 If they haven't, if you guys know the Texas Attorney General, send this to him.

01:01:43.000 I don't know who he is or who they are, who she is, I don't know.

01:01:46.000 They should know.

01:01:46.000 Yeah, we should immediately, this should be in their hands.

01:01:48.000 The FBI should immediately be involved in this.

01:01:50.000 And they say you need an ID to vote?

01:01:53.000 Does Texas have universal mail-in voting?

01:01:56.000 I don't know.

01:01:56.000 Yet?

01:01:59.000 Research!

01:02:00.000 The Attorney General for Texas is Ken Paxton.

01:02:03.000 Ken Paxton.

01:02:04.000 Get on it, Matty.

01:02:07.000 Let's find out about their mail-in voting.

01:02:10.000 You can apply for a ballot by mail in the state of Texas.

01:02:13.000 You have to be 65 years or older, sick or disabled, out of the country on election day, expected to give birth in three weeks, be confined to jail or otherwise eligible, and then you can submit online. 0.96

01:02:24.000 I really doubt if this is some kind of manipulation that Texas is going to allow mass applications for mail-in voting, but I really just don't know.

01:02:32.000 I certainly think you'd be naive to think there is no shadow campaign.

01:02:37.000 Yeah.

01:02:39.000 Look, there was a lot of effort put into the Shadow campaign in 2020.

01:02:44.000 They wrote a whole piece about it, there was a bunch of people involved, and I had to make sure that they reinforced the election and stuff.

01:02:52.000 The idea that they wouldn't do it again is... 0.94

01:02:55.000 Of course, silly.

01:02:56.000 If we were just in a normal world and I was like, one day I was like, what? 0.78

01:02:58.000 What?

01:02:59.000 I'd be really weirded out.

01:03:00.000 But the influx of migrants into Texas, like, I think that that kind of correlates with what we're seeing in the numbers of people being registered.

01:03:08.000 So I'm not saying that they're literally the ones being registered, but there's a correlation there.

01:03:12.000 It's a lot more evidence that something nefarious is going on.

01:03:15.000 And it could be something going through Texas that the Secretary of State doesn't know about.

01:03:20.000 Now, they said their voter rolls haven't increased by that much.

01:03:23.000 Maybe there are Democrats working in Texas submitting registrations for verification and they're trying to figure out who they can get who isn't registered and who is able who's not who's going to slip through the system and it's and it's coming from a local jurisdiction or something and the Secretary of State doesn't know about it.

01:03:39.000 People who haven't been added to the voter rolls because it has not yet been submitted to the state and it's bypassed the state government.

01:03:46.000 And now they'll know who to register with the state, now that they see who's alive.

01:03:50.000 Yep, to minimize errors and to make it look like, make it look authentic.

01:03:56.000 I think, the one thing about this, I'm glad that it got picked up because taxes are now saying that it's an error, is great.

01:04:04.000 Because now any anomalous thing that we end up seeing in November, we can point back and say, hey, this was widely known about, and so there is now, like, hey, start filing your lawsuits now.

01:04:16.000 Okay, so all the Republican groups need to start filing lawsuits, challenging this.

01:04:21.000 The Social Security Administration needs to be sued for their data.

01:04:24.000 The state of Texas, hey, this could be a lie.

01:04:27.000 Secretary of State could be lying.

01:04:29.000 For all we know.

01:04:32.000 This is unprecedented, man.

01:04:34.000 Like, what do you do here?

01:04:35.000 We just talk about it, raise awareness.

01:04:37.000 Well, as I mentioned, it is only conservatives that keep this country in existence.

01:04:42.000 It's like that episode of The Simpsons, where the advertisements all come to life.

01:04:46.000 Just don't look.

01:04:47.000 If everyone just stopped looking at the advertisements, they'd cease to exist.

01:04:50.000 But conservatives genuinely believe in the power structures of this country.

01:04:54.000 And again, I'm joking.

01:04:55.000 I'm saying this is actually a good thing.

01:04:57.000 Because they want to save it.

01:04:58.000 They want to make America great.

01:04:59.000 They want to fix it.

01:05:00.000 They want to get Trump elected.

01:05:01.000 They want to bring in people who are going to weed out the corruption.

01:05:04.000 Unfortunately, right now, the people in government are the enclave.

01:05:08.000 They are beholden to no one.

01:05:09.000 They are accountable to no one.

01:05:10.000 They lie.

01:05:10.000 They cheat.

01:05:11.000 They steal. 1.00

01:05:11.000 They are criminals. 1.00

01:05:12.000 And Trump supporters just go, well, you know, they're in charge. 0.98

01:05:15.000 Cause they don't want to fight.

01:05:17.000 Nobody wants to do that right now.

01:05:18.000 I mean, most people, I don't think they don't want to fight.

01:05:20.000 They want a peaceful society.

01:05:22.000 It's, it's a terrible idea.

01:05:23.000 That's right.

01:05:23.000 That you would ever have to be pushed into that, man.

01:05:26.000 I don't want to fight.

01:05:27.000 We got to do this peacefully.

01:05:29.000 Well, let's jump to this next story.

01:05:30.000 We have this from the Hill.

01:05:31.000 Woman who stole Ashley Biden's diary sentenced to month in prison.

01:05:35.000 See, I don't know if stole is the right word, but I guess she was convicted.

01:05:39.000 She's getting a month in jail and I can only say this proves it.

01:05:43.000 So it really was actually Biden's diary, and there is no reason now to doubt anything in it.

01:05:47.000 So here's a woman saying she feels like she underwent some kind of sexual trauma, where she was hyper-sexualized as a young child, and that she may have been molested, and she had inappropriate showers with her dad, Joe Biden.

01:06:00.000 That was Willem's diary?

01:06:01.000 I gotta tell you, I think the sentencing of this woman was actually a play by patriots who were like, we need to give her some time to confirm the diary.

01:06:12.000 And so they were like, look, one month is no big deal, but that proves the diary's real.

01:06:18.000 There you go.

01:06:19.000 So they waited how many years?

01:06:21.000 I'm kidding.

01:06:22.000 Four years and then they charged her?

01:06:23.000 Well she's been in dealing with this since 2022.

01:06:27.000 They say prosecutors accused Amy Harris of stealing the president's daughter's diary in September 2020 while she was temporarily staying at Ashley Biden's residence in Delray Beach, Florida.

01:06:36.000 The diary contained highly personal entries as well as tax records, a cell phone, and family photographs according to the DOJ.

01:06:42.000 Harris enlisted Robert Kurlander to assist her efforts, and they each pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in 2022.

01:06:49.000 Project Veritas, based in New York, paid Harris and Kurlander $20,000 each for the diary and other materials, which the two returned to Florida to obtain.

01:06:58.000 Nicholas Bias, the Chief of Public Affairs for the Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York, confirmed Harris was sentenced to one month in prison and three years of supervised release to the Hill.

01:07:08.000 Kurlander has not been sentenced yet.

01:07:10.000 Project Veritas describes itself as a news outlet, but faced some controversies for its sting operations and sending staffers undercover to record sources.

01:07:17.000 The DOJ raided two locations in November 2021 tied to Project Veritas and the organization's founder, James O'Keefe.

01:07:23.000 While Veritas did not publish the diary, another website did.

01:07:27.000 Judge Laura Taylor Swain described Harris' actions as despicable during the sentencing at a Manhattan federal court on Tuesday.

01:07:32.000 The AP reported Harris apologized to Ashley Biden during the sentencing and said she regretted her actions, according to the AP.

01:07:38.000 The DOJ sought a sentence of four to ten months of imprisonment for Harris, followed by three years of supervised release, according to a letter sent to the judge last week.

01:07:46.000 Assistant U.S.

01:07:47.000 Attorney Robert Sobelman argued Tuesday that Harris showed a pattern of disrespect for the law and the justice system.

01:07:53.000 Harris' lawyers asked for no prison time, with defense attorney Anthony Cicutti saying she carries the shame and stigma of her actions.

01:08:00.000 The AP reported.

01:08:01.000 Hill reached out for comment.

01:08:03.000 And, uh, well, the diary's real.

01:08:05.000 Check this out.

01:08:06.000 I love this because Snopes has this story.

01:08:10.000 Fact check.

01:08:11.000 Posts claim contents of Ashley Biden's diary have been verified.

01:08:17.000 Here are the facts.

01:08:18.000 And this is from Friday, April 5th.

01:08:21.000 What do they say?

01:08:21.000 Unproven!

01:08:23.000 It's unproven.

01:08:24.000 A diary authored by U.S.

01:08:25.000 President Joe Biden's daughter Ashley Biden describes inappropriate actions taken toward her by her father when she was a child.

01:08:30.000 Unproven.

01:08:30.000 What do you mean unproven?

01:08:31.000 It's her diary.

01:08:32.000 She said it was her diary.

01:08:34.000 We know it's her diary.

01:08:35.000 Two people are going to prison because they took her diary.

01:08:38.000 And in her diary, it talks about how she was hyper-sexualized, makes reference to sexual trauma, and says that she took inappropriate—noted taking showers with her dad, quote, parenthesis, probably not appropriate.

01:08:50.000 Go back up to the top of this.

01:08:51.000 This is very disingenuous.

01:08:52.000 Which part?

01:08:53.000 This title.

01:08:54.000 The way Snopes titled this.

01:08:58.000 So they're saying, is it verified?

01:09:01.000 Is what she wrote in her diary verifiably true?

01:09:05.000 We still don't know.

01:09:06.000 She might have been lying in her diary, I think is what they're saying here.

01:09:09.000 The idea that somebody would have a diary, to the extent that people would go to prison for taking it, and then Snopes would go, but we don't know if she actually wrote what's in it.

01:09:20.000 No, they know she wrote it, but they don't know if it's true what she wrote.

01:09:23.000 That's what they're saying, I think.

01:09:25.000 As far as I can tell.

01:09:25.000 Which I get it!

01:09:31.000 They're arguing that the pages we got may not actually be from a leaked diary.

01:09:42.000 Oh, well now that... I think that's not the right argument because as far as I can tell it's verified.

01:09:46.000 This stuff was in her diary that they arrested the woman for stealing?

01:09:49.000 They're arguing we don't know it was in her diary.

01:09:51.000 It's just that someone had her diary and said these are pages from the diary, but how do we know?

01:09:55.000 Is the diary public?

01:09:57.000 Has it been published?

01:09:58.000 I mean, technically, the outlet that published the pages made it public, but they're saying, how do we know those are real?

01:10:05.000 Right.

01:10:05.000 Yeah, good on Snopes.

01:10:06.000 It's an amazing argument, because you can basically debunk literally anything.

01:10:10.000 Yes, the Pentagon Papers were sent to the New York Times, but how do we know the New York Times didn't alter them?

01:10:14.000 Therefore, they're all unverified.

01:10:16.000 And the Afghan war logs?

01:10:18.000 Same thing.

01:10:19.000 Gravity?

01:10:20.000 9.8 meters per second squared?

01:10:21.000 We don't know.

01:10:21.000 How can you prove it?

01:10:22.000 You can.

01:10:22.000 You sure?

01:10:23.000 Unproven.

01:10:23.000 Did you do the studies?

01:10:24.000 I know.

01:10:25.000 That proves it.

01:10:26.000 I think you can actually test that.

01:10:28.000 You think?

01:10:28.000 You sure?

01:10:29.000 Did you?

01:10:29.000 Unproven.

01:10:30.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:10:30.000 Did you?

01:10:31.000 I haven't yet.

01:10:32.000 Well then it's unproven.

01:10:33.000 Snopes will get you.

01:10:35.000 What did you say, what did you say the gravity speed was?

01:10:37.000 9.8 meters per second squared, it accelerates.

01:10:39.000 Snopes.

01:10:40.000 Ian claims that gravity is 9 point, what do you say, 8?

01:10:43.000 9.8 meters per second.

01:10:45.000 9.8 meters per second squared.

01:10:46.000 On Earth.

01:10:47.000 Unproven.

01:10:47.000 Cause they'll be like, false!

01:10:49.000 On Mars, gravity is... No, no, no, I would say false.

01:10:52.000 Ian Crossland has never actually done these experiments to prove the actual speed of gravity and force of gravity.

01:10:58.000 Therefore, this is a completely wild claim that he's made without evidence.

01:11:02.000 I used to respect Snopes a lot in the early 2000s, I think.

01:11:06.000 Because you were in the cult.

01:11:07.000 Or were they good back in the day and then they got bought?

01:11:09.000 Did they get bought out?

01:11:10.000 Everything did that.

01:11:12.000 As soon as the cell phone became ubiquitous in everyone's pocket and stuff, that's when it really became...

01:11:21.000 Uh, the, the, the culture really kind of changed.

01:11:24.000 There was, there was, you know, like Tim talks about how the, uh, the algorithm started re, you know, regurgitating the same stuff that the people were responding to.

01:11:34.000 The fundamental foundation had already been laid in schools and in, in your Basically, most of society had already been clowning anything Republicans did for almost 10 years before that happened.

01:11:48.000 You know, the whole Daily Show making jokes about anything Republicans said.

01:11:52.000 So they'd already made the entire concept of a conservative toxic so that way you could just dismiss anything a conservative said.

01:11:59.000 So it didn't matter what they said.

01:12:01.000 So it's been set up to really, you know, delegitimize people that don't fall in line, you know, fall in line with the narrative.

01:12:11.000 So.

01:12:12.000 Indeed.

01:12:13.000 Yeah, I remember not liking Mitt Romney.

01:12:14.000 It's a little anecdotal, but that was all media manipulation.

01:12:17.000 I was like, I'm not supposed to like that guy.

01:12:18.000 I mean, the thing is- True, but I also didn't like Mitt Romney because Mitt Romney is not a good person.

01:12:22.000 You seem cheap.

01:12:23.000 I've never met him face to face.

01:12:24.000 He was the most Boy Scout guy that you could possibly come up with for like- No, he was Hitler.

01:12:31.000 He was as milquetoast, boring, inoffensive Republican as the Republican Party, which means the United States, could produce.

01:12:42.000 There was nobody that was less offensive and a conservative than Mitt Romney.

01:12:46.000 And they still said he was Hitler, they said he was all these bad things, blah blah blah.

01:12:50.000 And so the response was, well, if we give you the nicest, most inoffensive conservative imaginable, and you still paint him as evil, then we'll just give you the used car salesman that's going to toss his middle finger up at you.

01:13:05.000 And, you know, we're going to run that guy against the most Objectionable Democrat that they could produce, you know, they railroaded Bernie Sanders campaign and all that stuff. 0.96

01:13:18.000 I just want to point this out because Snopes is the most duplicitous, disgusting organization.

01:13:23.000 They say, while there is strong evidence the diary exists, the authenticity of the content of these and other leaked pages has not been confirmed.

01:13:31.000 Just because a diary exists does not mean the images presented by the national file are that diary.

01:13:37.000 Legal proceedings later made it clear if the National File did get the document from Project Veritas.

01:13:42.000 The Intercept reported in 2022 that a Veritas employee provided the alleged diary to the National File in October 2020 when Veritas had reservations about publishing it.

01:13:52.000 So, we know they had it.

01:13:54.000 We know Veritas got it.

01:13:56.000 We know Veritas didn't want to publish it and gave it to National File.

01:13:59.000 Other outlets have confirmed this is what happened, but when National File did publish the claim, those claims could be fake, That's literally Snope's argument as to why it's unverified.

01:14:09.000 Amazing!

01:14:11.000 We know they had it.

01:14:12.000 We know how they got it.

01:14:13.000 We know that people are going to prison for helping facilitate the transfer of it.

01:14:17.000 And then after all is said and done, and the National File is holding the diary, they posted pictures of fake images.

01:14:27.000 That's what I'm supposed to believe.

01:14:29.000 Yeah.

01:14:29.000 I mean, if that's the case, there is literally no way to ever prove anything.

01:14:34.000 Yeah, because it's just, oh, we'll just deny it.

01:14:40.000 So here's a video of the National File holding the diary and opening it.

01:14:43.000 Well, how do we know they didn't write those pages themselves?

01:14:46.000 And we're entering this age of deepfake.

01:14:50.000 That's the argument made about the Hunter Biden laptop.

01:14:53.000 Oh, they had it, and you don't know that the Russians didn't get a hold of it, and you don't know that That there wasn't information in it that looked like the Russians had done it, and blah blah blah.

01:15:04.000 That's the same argument, but it was still information that was suppressed by the government, told multiple social media networks, don't suppress this information.

01:15:20.000 Everyone that's a conservative generally knows that the government doesn't like the conservatives because the conservatives want to limit the government.

01:15:29.000 Just the whole narrative.

01:15:32.000 Conservatives are like, I want small government.

01:15:34.000 I don't think government should do this.

01:15:35.000 I don't think government should do that.

01:15:38.000 The other side of the aisle is like, we think the government should do all these things plus more.

01:15:42.000 And so obviously, the government is interested in its own existence.

01:15:47.000 It has an opinion now.

01:15:49.000 It's no longer separate from politics.

01:15:53.000 It's very much interested in its own opinion.

01:15:56.000 It's very much interested in its own...

01:16:00.000 I want to ask, I want to talk to Doug about what's going on with your case now.

01:16:03.000 are going to feel like, oh, we should be Democrats and we should want to vote for people that are

01:16:08.000 going to decide to do more government programs. It's just the nature of government. I want to

01:16:13.000 ask, I want to talk to Doug about what's going on with your case now. Can you tell us basically

01:16:18.000 the gist of how it started and where you're at? Well, what you were saying is exactly what my

01:16:24.000 It's about the government trying to expand its power into the realm of disinformation.

01:16:30.000 They want to use these statutes to crack down on disinformation.

01:16:37.000 Back in 2016, I saw these two funny memes on 4chan and I posted them to Twitter.

01:16:44.000 It said, you can text your vote Hillary to 55429, whatever the number was.

01:16:51.000 Did you actually make those?

01:16:53.000 No, I didn't make the memes.

01:16:54.000 They were 4chan memes.

01:16:55.000 You found images on the internet and posted them on Twitter.

01:16:57.000 Exactly.

01:16:59.000 And now they want to put you in prison?

01:17:01.000 Exactly.

01:17:01.000 For seven months.

01:17:02.000 Wow.

01:17:03.000 For seven months.

01:17:04.000 So explain the images real quick.

01:17:06.000 Yeah, so there were just these jokes on 4chan.

01:17:09.000 It said, they have a picture of like a Democrat voter and it says, avoid the lines, skip the lines, stay home.

01:17:17.000 Text your vote, just text the word Hillary to the short code number. 0.70

01:17:23.000 So we actually have it.

01:17:25.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:17:25.000 Uh oh, not anymore, we don't.

01:17:27.000 It's gone.

01:17:28.000 For six dollars you might have access.

01:17:30.000 Anyway, continue.

01:17:32.000 Yeah, so that was the meme, so I posted it on Twitter.

01:17:36.000 Fast forward four years, almost five years.

01:17:40.000 And yeah, the FBI came, knocked on my door at seven in the morning down in Florida, and I was arrested.

01:17:48.000 I had no idea what I was being arrested for.

01:17:51.000 They took me to the courthouse, to a holding cell in West Palm Beach.

01:17:55.000 And then after the hearing, they took the leg irons off me and said, you're free to go.

01:18:02.000 They gave me the criminal complaint that said, we're charging you with a conspiracy against rights, a conspiracy to injure Oppressed, threaten, or intimidate people in their exercise of their civil rights.

01:18:16.000 So this happened in 2021.

01:18:19.000 I went to trial in 2023, and a whole bunch of crazy stuff happened.

01:18:24.000 They had a confidential informant from a group chat that I was in, and they allowed him to testify anonymously, which usually is reserved only for, let's say, ISIS or the Mexican drug cartels.

01:18:39.000 They allow sometimes witnesses to testify anonymously.

01:18:43.000 They allowed him to testify anonymously, not because of any credible threat, but because of the possibility that he might face harassment online.

01:18:53.000 And so they had this guy up there who I never spoke to anywhere.

01:18:58.000 I never met the guy.

01:18:59.000 He was a thousand miles away, wherever he was.

01:19:03.000 But we were in a group chat together.

01:19:04.000 We never spoke.

01:19:06.000 even in the group chat otherwise.

01:19:08.000 And they asked him, and he just went up there and said whatever they wanted him to.

01:19:10.000 They said, did you have a silent conspiracy to injure voters in the right to vote?

01:19:16.000 And he said, oh, yes, yes, we had a silent conspiracy.

01:19:20.000 A silent conspiracy?

01:19:22.000 A silent conspiracy over the internet with someone I've never met.

01:19:26.000 And the guy also The microchip guy, the guy's name is Microchip.

01:19:34.000 Yeah, he just said exactly whatever they wanted him to say.

01:19:36.000 It was really unbelievable.

01:19:37.000 You were in Brooklyn?

01:19:40.000 Yeah, I was in Manhattan and they brought the case in Brooklyn.

01:19:44.000 That's an issue for appeal, which is really crazy.

01:19:48.000 So obviously the Founding Fathers, they didn't want there to be universal jurisdiction for cases because a lot of times the colonists were being dragged back to London and being thrown in the dungeon and tried for crimes, whatever the crime was.

01:20:04.000 And so the founders wrote in the Constitution, you have to be tried in the state and district in which the crime was committed.

01:20:12.000 So at trial, they argued that the crime was committed in Brooklyn because the tweets went over the internet wires on the bridge, like the Holland Tunnel or whatever, because Brooklyn and Manhattan, they share jurisdiction over the waterways.

01:20:31.000 So that was completely insane.

01:20:33.000 But the bottom line is that they said that I was part of a conspiracy, even though I wasn't even in these group chats when these people were making these memes.

01:20:42.000 So it's kind of like a guilt by association thing.

01:20:44.000 That's crazy.

01:20:45.000 You know, I testified at trial.

01:20:47.000 I said, obviously, I didn't think anybody would look at this meme and think that it was real.

01:20:53.000 Because they have to prove intent as part of a conspiracy.

01:20:55.000 And come on, it's like, do you really think that anybody would believe that?

01:20:58.000 I mean, it's really... You didn't even make it.

01:21:01.000 Exactly.

01:21:01.000 I didn't make it.

01:21:02.000 They introduced all this circumstantial evidence.

01:21:05.000 All the evidence was circumstantial.

01:21:08.000 And the jury deliberated for three and a half days before, on Friday afternoon, they came back with a verdict.

01:21:14.000 So we were, I was thinking, you know, we're going to get a hung jury because it's going to be really difficult to get an acquittal.

01:21:20.000 I think that's why they brought the case in Brooklyn.

01:21:23.000 Because they don't like Trump.

01:21:25.000 So we have the case up on appeal under the First Amendment because look at the statute.

01:21:32.000 Injure, intimidate, oppress, threaten people and their right to vote.

01:21:37.000 What does that have to do with posting a satire or parody online?

01:21:41.000 Even if you're going to say, well, you know, this was a legitimate attempt to try to disenfranchise people.

01:21:47.000 Is it really covered under the statute that was written basically so that roving gangs can be prosecuted if they go and like beat up African-Americans as they're going to the polls or whatever.

01:21:58.000 So the jury came back and said guilty.

01:22:01.000 The jury came back after the jury was hung twice.

01:22:06.000 The third time they came back guilty because under the federal system, the judge can say, well, you know, you need to try harder.

01:22:13.000 We don't want you necessarily to change your deeply held conviction.

01:22:16.000 But, you know, we spent a lot of time and effort and money investigating this case, defending this case, whatever.

01:22:21.000 So go back and, like, try harder.

01:22:23.000 And you can see them there squirming around their seats.

01:22:25.000 Like, they felt like they were committing a crime or something.

01:22:28.000 They want to go home.

01:22:28.000 They don't care.

01:22:29.000 Oh, they did want to go home.

01:22:30.000 Yeah, they want to go home.

01:22:30.000 Well, I mean, the first two, like, you get a hung jury two times and, you know, the court's like, oh, go back there.

01:22:38.000 And in a questionable, you know, constitutionally questionable case, obviously if you If your appeal doesn't go through, would you appeal to the Supreme Court?

01:22:49.000 Yeah, we will go to the Supreme Court if we don't win at circuit.

01:22:51.000 What was it?

01:22:52.000 Are they going to put you in jail in the meantime?

01:22:54.000 So at the sentencing, you know, I got seven months and my attorney said, you know, well, we're going to move for a bond and the judge denied it outright.

01:23:04.000 So we went to the circuit back in December and they actually overturned that decision.

01:23:10.000 So I'm out on appeal.

01:23:12.000 I was supposed to go to prison on January the 18th.

01:23:16.000 And my son had a surgery on the 16th, so that would have sucked.

01:23:20.000 But yeah, so I'm out on appeal.

01:23:22.000 I'm out on bond.

01:23:23.000 And we just argued the case on Friday in front of the Second Circuit, a three-judge panel.

01:23:30.000 And it's hard to say which way it's going to go at this point.

01:23:34.000 We have a really strong argument on venue, on the First Amendment, on due process, because, like you said, But if they grant appeal, it seems like, you know, so you're saying venue, due process.

01:23:48.000 If they say venue, then it sounds like the feds just bring the case back and they change venue.

01:23:53.000 That's a good question, yeah.

01:23:54.000 Depending on how they rule, they could either bring the case back, To the same district and try to prove venue, we have this jury-instructed argument.

01:24:02.000 I don't know exactly what the law says because there is a statute of limitations.

01:24:09.000 So I don't know if this case is dismissed in that district.

01:24:12.000 I'm not sure if they're going to be able to bring the case in another district or if they would want to.

01:24:17.000 It's an open question.

01:24:18.000 So I'm not exactly sure what will happen.

01:24:20.000 You talk about proving intent.

01:24:21.000 What is your intent?

01:24:23.000 So it's a joke.

01:24:23.000 I mean, there's multiple elements of it.

01:24:25.000 Obviously, it's satire about, you know, just the requirements that there are to vote.

01:24:31.000 For example, one side of the political aisle doesn't want people to have to even show an ID.

01:24:37.000 So the idea is it's funny, like, this is what they would do if they had the power.

01:24:40.000 They literally did almost the exact same thing four years later.

01:24:43.000 Four years later, yeah.

01:24:43.000 They're mailing the ballots to people's houses.

01:24:45.000 Not just that, but there was a woman who made a video. 1.00

01:24:47.000 Yeah.

01:24:48.000 What was it?

01:24:48.000 There was a woman, she told Trump supporters to go text a vote?

01:24:50.000 Right, exactly.

01:24:51.000 It was a comedian.

01:24:52.000 Which tells you exactly what this is.

01:24:54.000 Did you guys present that in the case?

01:24:58.000 We were allowed to introduce that into evidence.

01:25:02.000 And I was on the stand.

01:25:03.000 My attorney was like, what is this?

01:25:04.000 And the judge didn't allow me to talk about what it was.

01:25:07.000 But we did introduce it into evidence.

01:25:09.000 We were allowed to.

01:25:10.000 The jury was allowed to see it?

01:25:11.000 The jury was allowed to see it.

01:25:13.000 It didn't have a phone number on it, which was the difference.

01:25:15.000 It didn't have a phone number on it.

01:25:16.000 It doesn't say paid for by the Hillary campaign, things like that.

01:25:20.000 That was the argument the left made when they were defending the idea that you could make... I mean, first of all, you don't even have Democrat followers.

01:25:29.000 You're a Trump influencer talking to Trump supporters, and none of the Trump supporters are going to vote for Hillary.

01:25:35.000 It's an absurd argument.

01:25:37.000 Yeah.

01:25:37.000 One thing they did say, though, oh, well, he used hashtags.

01:25:41.000 So that's targeting.

01:25:42.000 And it's like, if anybody was online back then, basically every troll is using the Hillary Clinton hashtags. 0.70

01:25:48.000 If you had clicked on the hashtag, this is a flood of basically nonsense.

01:25:53.000 And my attorney did make the argument.

01:25:55.000 It's kind of obvious, you know, you're not supposed to believe everything that you see on Twitter.

01:26:01.000 I mean, that's pretty obvious, not to mention anybody can Google how to vote.

01:26:06.000 And in two seconds, they're going to figure it out.

01:26:07.000 What was these four things you said?

01:26:08.000 Threaten.

01:26:09.000 There were four things.

01:26:10.000 Yeah.

01:26:10.000 Injure, intimidate, threaten or oppress.

01:26:14.000 Injure, intimidate.

01:26:16.000 So is injure like a like a legal phrase?

01:26:20.000 Yeah, it's an open question.

01:26:23.000 I mean, there is some case law about that.

01:26:25.000 Now, one of the reasons why we're appealing the case is because what they say, the word injure, can mean to hamper, to make it difficult.

01:26:34.000 So if the government's going to say that this statute can be used to prosecute deception, then that opens a whole can of worms, especially if you're going to define the word injure as to make difficult.

01:26:46.000 Interesting.

01:26:47.000 So what we say is that if I told you, hey, look, don't vote because it's going to rain tomorrow and it's actually going to be sunny.

01:26:54.000 Okay.

01:26:55.000 Is that a federal crime?

01:26:56.000 You know, that kind of thing.

01:26:57.000 And if you're like, you know, Donald Trump did this thing, so don't vote for him.

01:27:01.000 Like, is that a crime?

01:27:02.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:27:02.000 Well, what if you said, if you vote for Donald Trump, he's going to arrest, he's going to arrest you for being gay. 0.99

01:27:09.000 It's kind of like, right, exactly. 0.98

01:27:11.000 That's deceptive, inhibiting, threatening, threatening them with injury.

01:27:15.000 Right.

01:27:17.000 It's acceptable for one political party, and it's unacceptable for another.

01:27:21.000 Well, that's why it's in New York!

01:27:23.000 I mean, is it public where you were at the time when you posted it?

01:27:26.000 Yeah, I was in Manhattan at the time.

01:27:27.000 Oh, you were in Manhattan?

01:27:28.000 That's a separate district from where they brought the case.

01:27:32.000 So they said the tweet went over the line into Brooklyn?

01:27:36.000 Yeah, over the wires.

01:27:37.000 Exactly.

01:27:38.000 The way I look at it is, you don't want to mislead people into not voting, obviously.

01:27:43.000 But, I mean, they're just trying to prove that they think that was your intention?

01:27:46.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:48.000 They had to prove that there was an agreement, first of all, which is this is copy and pasting a meme.

01:27:54.000 And is that an agreement?

01:27:55.000 Agreement with what?

01:27:56.000 Agreement with other people.

01:27:57.000 And there was none?

01:27:58.000 Because it's a conspiracy, it has to be two or more people.

01:28:00.000 And that's where you say they brought these dudes up into the court that you didn't know they were in a group chat that your account was in?

01:28:06.000 Exactly.

01:28:06.000 I'm in, like, group chats that I don't read.

01:28:08.000 That's exactly right.

01:28:09.000 You can mute them.

01:28:10.000 I've done that.

01:28:11.000 I'm still in the chat because I'm like, I know people in that chat, I don't read it.

01:28:14.000 It's just going on.

01:28:15.000 If they're talking about illegal stuff and I'm somehow implicated for not being involved in it, that's insane.

01:28:19.000 Right.

01:28:19.000 Exactly.

01:28:21.000 And one of the reasons why they prosecuted me is because my account had a lot of followers.

01:28:25.000 It was very influential at the time.

01:28:27.000 And this is what, you know, they don't care about people who aren't influential, right?

01:28:31.000 They go after you for influential.

01:28:33.000 So I was all constantly getting invited into group chats.

01:28:37.000 I was in dozens of group chats and a lot of, and this one in particular, one of them, people are dumping stuff into the group chat all day long, like 600 messages a day or something like that.

01:28:47.000 And it's like, I just click mute on these chats, you know?

01:28:49.000 So there has to be an agreement and intent for you to be guilty of a conspiracy.

01:28:53.000 Is there evidence that you muted those chats?

01:28:56.000 So now, because the account's long gone, we don't have access to it anymore, that would have been interesting if we could log in and look and say, look, this chat's been used.

01:29:06.000 Twitter might still have it, yeah.

01:29:07.000 It's probably still there, because if you delete it, the data might still be available.

01:29:10.000 Probably is.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:12.000 I'm sure it's there.

01:29:13.000 I don't know if they would be able to find if this chat or that chat were actually muted.

01:29:17.000 Oh, you can see.

01:29:18.000 If an account mutes a chat, you would know.

01:29:19.000 The administrators would know.

01:29:20.000 If you don't win the appeal, do you appeal again?

01:29:22.000 Uh, to the Supreme Court.

01:29:24.000 Yep.

01:29:24.000 Yeah.

01:29:25.000 Absolutely.

01:29:26.000 Because, like I said, this case is bigger than me because this is about our liberties as Americans.

01:29:34.000 So I think I'm obligated to appeal it.

01:29:36.000 I mean, not only do I I think I'm innocent.

01:29:39.000 I don't think that I committed this crime that I'm accused of committing.

01:29:43.000 But not only that, it's the principle of it.

01:29:48.000 Not only in my case, but we are arguing that you can't be arrested for something when your conduct is not clearly established to be illegal.

01:29:57.000 If they're going to use a statue and start arresting people, Well, they can come up with a novel theory for something you said, and they say, well, we're not going to, we're only arresting people for misinformation about the right to vote.

01:30:08.000 And it's like, you can trust us, right?

01:30:10.000 That's a 1A violation instantly, and they would literally just start arresting anybody because they're, oh, you're disinformation.

01:30:17.000 If they get away with it, that's exactly right.

01:30:19.000 And they say, well, we have a First Amendment in this country.

01:30:22.000 We can't, you know, we can't make disinformation illegal, but they're constantly trying to subvert the First Amendment and the Constitution.

01:30:29.000 I think that's the real issue here, is they want to make, they need precedent to say, disinformation is injury, therefore it's illegal.

01:30:36.000 Exactly.

01:30:37.000 Yeah, I don't see how you would lose this on appeal.

01:30:40.000 Unless the Supreme Court just says, we don't care.

01:30:42.000 Yeah, if they don't take the case, right?

01:30:44.000 But in this kind of case, you think they kind of have to take it.

01:30:46.000 It's a big deal, because a lot of people shared that.

01:30:48.000 That's a big deal.

01:30:49.000 Yeah, a lot of people.

01:30:50.000 Well, I mean, the fact that you didn't even make it is another, you know, another significant... Yeah, but what about the other people who were on 4chan who posted it?

01:30:57.000 Nobody, nobody.

01:30:57.000 Nothing?

01:30:59.000 Nobody got arrested.

01:31:00.000 They have some people that were unindicted co-conspirators, and the inform, the cooperator, he got arrested.

01:31:07.000 He got, you know, he pled guilty.

01:31:09.000 The cooperator, the cooperator pled guilty.

01:31:12.000 So they twisted his arm and he got up there and said basically the exact opposite of what he had always said, of what he told the FBI, of what he told journalists.

01:31:22.000 You know, look, I just try to create chaos and freak people out and that kind of thing and get attention.

01:31:28.000 Well, you post this meme, obviously part of the intent Is that maybe the left will freak out about it.

01:31:34.000 And that's exactly what happened.

01:31:35.000 BuzzFeed, all these people covered this meme.

01:31:39.000 And here's what's crazy about it too.

01:31:41.000 Basically, when I posted it, it was on this small account because my original account had been suspended.

01:31:47.000 And only like 200 maybe people texted the number.

01:31:50.000 And a lot of people seeing what happened, they text Hillary for prison to the number. 0.99

01:31:55.000 Or whatever.

01:31:56.000 Oh, there was an actual number?

01:31:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:58.000 They went and subpoenaed the shortcode company that owned the shortcode.

01:32:02.000 After this was picked up by BuzzFeed and Wired, then like four or five thousand more people texted the number.

01:32:08.000 Oh, so they propagated the meme.

01:32:10.000 They posted the meme.

01:32:11.000 Which was exactly the point.

01:32:12.000 You post this kind of thing, and then you see what happens, right?

01:32:15.000 But they posted it with context, but it still got more texts after they posted it with context because they propagated the meme.

01:32:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:32:20.000 Interesting.

01:32:21.000 And so, how many people, after you posted it, actually texted Hillary to that number?

01:32:26.000 So initially it was only like 200 or even less.

01:32:31.000 Who said Hillary? 1.00

01:32:33.000 Oh, who actually said Hillary? 0.99

01:32:34.000 Most of them said Hillary.

01:32:36.000 A few of them said Hillary for prison or whatever, that kind of thing.

01:32:42.000 But yeah, how many people actually said Hillary?

01:32:44.000 What the FBI always said is that 4,900 people texted the number.

01:32:49.000 A lot of them said Hillary, but these are people that want to see what happened.

01:32:52.000 For example, journalists were like, I texted the number and here's what happened.

01:32:57.000 So yeah, it was really crazy.

01:32:59.000 And there was no one that ever wanted to testify that they had been one of the ones that… Great point.

01:33:03.000 So yeah, exactly.

01:33:04.000 The FBI went around the Eastern District of New York, which is the district where I was prosecuted, knocking on people's doors.

01:33:11.000 They looked them up.

01:33:12.000 Did you text the number?

01:33:14.000 Because they had the numbers.

01:33:15.000 And people either said they didn't remember texting it or like, there's no way I would believe that.

01:33:19.000 Are you kidding me?

01:33:20.000 Like, I'm not an idiot. 0.98

01:33:22.000 We have the 302s in Discovery. 0.93

01:33:25.000 Nobody, not one person said, oh yeah, I believe this and I texted the number.

01:33:31.000 Wow.

01:33:31.000 So there were no, no one claimed injury.

01:33:34.000 Exactly.

01:33:36.000 Okay, so that would take injury off of the... So no one was threatened.

01:33:40.000 Well, I guess that's undetermined.

01:33:42.000 That's interesting.

01:33:43.000 No one was threatened.

01:33:43.000 There was no threats made in the meme.

01:33:45.000 The argument would be that it's a threat to their ability to vote, but if that's, you know, only if they were to claim like, hey, you wronged me.

01:33:53.000 I mean, you would need someone to at least, I think, explain that they felt threatened.

01:33:56.000 Exactly.

01:33:57.000 So with fraud statutes, you have to have an injured party, right?

01:34:01.000 But in this case, you don't even have to have an injured party.

01:34:03.000 You just have to have a conspiracy.

01:34:05.000 It's one or the other?

01:34:07.000 No, it's just conspiracy.

01:34:08.000 That's all you need.

01:34:08.000 The government, all they need to say is there was a conspiracy.

01:34:10.000 So that's like one guy saying, hey, share this meme, and then you're doing it as opposed to you being like, cool meme and sharing it.

01:34:16.000 That makes, that's the difference?

01:34:17.000 Exactly.

01:34:18.000 So they just say I was in league with all these other people in these group chats.

01:34:21.000 I'm fascinated to find out about the mute status of your account, because if you had all that stuff muted, you weren't listening.

01:34:26.000 It wasn't coming up in your feed.

01:34:28.000 Well, it wasn't the feed, it was the direct message groups, right?

01:34:31.000 Yeah, that's what I meant.

01:34:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:34:35.000 And you get on there and it's like, oh, you have 800 new messages in this chat.

01:34:39.000 It's like, you just click that button, right?

01:34:40.000 Yeah, I got one now.

01:34:41.000 Scroll to the end.

01:34:42.000 I'm thinking about leaving the group chat.

01:34:43.000 I'm not going to do it, guys.

01:34:44.000 but I don't watch. So you might want to leave the group chat because you don't know you might be

01:34:47.000 held liable for something that they're saying there. Millions of people in group chats. Yeah,

01:34:51.000 you don't guilt buy association in this country. That is not the way we run this thing. That was

01:34:54.000 communist. And what have I been saying about where we're currently at in this country? That

01:35:01.000 you have a rogue mafia doing whatever they want.

01:35:05.000 The left doesn't recognize it.

01:35:06.000 They firebomb federal buildings and mostly get away with it.

01:35:10.000 Only at the state level in Georgia are they actually getting pursued.

01:35:14.000 And then it's the right that are just like, here I go.

01:35:18.000 And this is my issue with police.

01:35:21.000 And I've been critical of the idea of backing the blue.

01:35:24.000 And a lot of conservatives don't seem to get it.

01:35:27.000 The example is the Proud Boys in New York.

01:35:30.000 When Antifa started fights, And the Proud Boys, like, Antifa surrounded a speech at this Young Republicans Club or something, where Gavin McInnes was speaking, throwing things at people, screaming at people.

01:35:44.000 Some Proud Boys came out and said, alright, let's go.

01:35:47.000 And I would describe it as they engaged in mutual combat.

01:35:49.000 Now, to be fair, some might say, well, when you're surrounded by Antifa on all these different blocks and they're harassing everybody, eventually you're just like, what do you do?

01:35:56.000 You charge through them.

01:35:57.000 Whatever.

01:35:58.000 The point is, they fought.

01:35:59.000 When the cops showed up, the Proud Boys said, thank you, officer, here's all of my information.

01:36:04.000 Antifa said, run! 1.00

01:36:05.000 And then the cops went, well, they're gone, so you guys turn around, put your hands behind your back, you're going to prison.

01:36:09.000 And they got four years.

01:36:11.000 These Proud Boys got four years because they decided to cooperate with police because they're good, honest Proud Boys!

01:36:15.000 That's right, good, honest, back the blue!

01:36:17.000 Thank you, officer, they said as they got marched off, ripped from their children's arms.

01:36:21.000 That's the anarcho-tyranny.

01:36:22.000 Anarchy for the lawless and tyranny for the law-abiding.

01:36:25.000 And that's what we currently have right now.

01:36:27.000 You had Steve Baker, the journalist, marched away in shackles for covering January 6th, where even in the charging documents, they're like, he's walking around with a camera narrating to himself what's going on.

01:36:39.000 I'm like, yeah, that's called reporting.

01:36:41.000 It's a guy who's with journalists and filming what's happening.

01:36:44.000 And there were other journalists there.

01:36:45.000 Another journalist didn't get charged.

01:36:46.000 Why?

01:36:47.000 Because he called them insurrectionists.

01:36:49.000 So you basically have a mafia being like, you say what we want you to say, maybe it all goes away, huh?

01:36:54.000 Maybe you're a journalist, you win some awards.

01:36:56.000 But maybe you don't like what we do so much, we put you in prison.

01:36:59.000 And that's exactly what's happening right now.

01:37:01.000 And it's the Trump supporters just like, well, gee golly, I gotta back the blow.

01:37:05.000 Yeah, I don't like where people are, like, working with law enforcement and getting busted for it when the people that run away from them aren't getting busted.

01:37:13.000 Like, that's really messed up, because that incentivizes people to not comply, like, even if they're doing good, because they don't want to get roped into some scheme.

01:37:22.000 Well, let's go to Super Chats!

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01:37:47.000 Clint Torres says, howdy people!

01:37:48.000 Hi Clint.

01:37:49.000 Tim, rumors of my kidnapping on Friday were greatly exaggerated.

01:37:52.000 I do not- I do not end up in someone's basement tied up upside down and naked with a ball gig in my mouth without having been paid good money for it.

01:37:59.000 How good?

01:38:01.000 How good is good?

01:38:02.000 Smallmouseinabigfield says, make the ATF a drive-thru chain store.

01:38:07.000 Yeah, you know, when I need alcohol, tobacco, firearms, I go to the ATF drive-thru.

01:38:11.000 They have drive-thru alcohol stores.

01:38:13.000 Well, I guess you're selling sealed bottles.

01:38:15.000 Yeah.

01:38:15.000 In Ohio, right?

01:38:16.000 You have to.

01:38:17.000 It's pretty well-known.

01:38:18.000 Yeah, like, you can't go in.

01:38:19.000 They bring them to your car, and they... It was like a drive-in, where you drive into this, like, car wash thing, and then they, like, come out and give you... Yep.

01:38:27.000 That's crazy.

01:38:30.000 Okay, Juan Castle says, Tim, how do you not get depressed with all the news?

01:38:35.000 I don't understand the question.

01:38:36.000 I think I can answer.

01:38:37.000 It's skating.

01:38:38.000 I skated today.

01:38:39.000 I was doing push shove-its.

01:38:40.000 Pop shove-its?

01:38:41.000 Pop shove-its, yeah.

01:38:42.000 And man, the core workout, there's nothing else you can get sad about when you're worried, when you're focused on your body, when you're feeling your body.

01:38:50.000 I would simply say, how do you get depressed?

01:38:53.000 This is the world.

01:38:54.000 It's like saying, I figured out the truth today and it made me sad.

01:38:58.000 Whereas I'm like, I read the truth all day, every day.

01:39:01.000 How do you get sad?

01:39:02.000 This is the world.

01:39:03.000 It's like, this is baseline.

01:39:04.000 You know, like when the news comes out that there's Skittles and rainbows, I'll be happy, I guess.

01:39:09.000 Oof, I got bad allergies, man.

01:39:10.000 That's pollen. 0.95

01:39:11.000 Do you want some water?

01:39:12.000 No, it's not gonna help.

01:39:13.000 Brandon Long says, happy 1000th show.

01:39:16.000 Thanks, Brandon.

01:39:17.000 1000 shows!

01:39:17.000 Big deal.

01:39:19.000 That's a lot of shows.

01:39:20.000 Yeah.

01:39:21.000 Crazy.

01:39:22.000 It's been, uh... I've been doing this for just over 3 years.

01:39:25.000 I love it.

01:39:27.000 I've been doing the Tim Pool Daily Show podcast for going on, what, 8 years?

01:39:31.000 7 years?

01:39:31.000 I think I've been doing this for 4 years.

01:39:37.000 No, 2020.

01:39:38.000 It was during COVID.

01:39:39.000 That would make it just over three years.

01:39:41.000 Oh, it was 21?

01:39:42.000 No.

01:39:43.000 Man, my last four years have been kind of a blur for me, man.

01:39:47.000 So, yeah, COVID was 2020 because the COVID-19 was from the 2019.

01:39:52.000 Has it been four years?

01:39:53.000 Four years.

01:39:54.000 Thereabouts.

01:39:54.000 You and Adam started in like January, February, I think, of 2020.

01:39:57.000 It was the end of January.

01:39:59.000 Yeah.

01:40:00.000 Wow.

01:40:00.000 It came out like March or April or something.

01:40:03.000 Badass.

01:40:03.000 That's too many years.

01:40:04.000 That's a lot of years.

01:40:05.000 You're right, yeah, yeah.

01:40:05.000 Here's to four more.

01:40:07.000 Four more.

01:40:08.000 Forty more!

01:40:08.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 We'll be old, we'll have no viewers left, everyone will be dead, and everyone will be on Slim Slam, the new social media platform where you plug your brain into the Neuralink.

01:40:16.000 Dude.

01:40:16.000 And we'll be going like, where are these kids listening to?

01:40:19.000 Yeah.

01:40:19.000 I'll plug into a Bacta tank when I'm like 600 with you if you want to neural net this show from our minds.

01:40:23.000 Now I'll be like, I'll be like, what's his face?

01:40:25.000 Was it Mr. House or whatever from New Vegas?

01:40:27.000 Yeah.

01:40:28.000 Yeah, I'll do that.

01:40:29.000 I'll just be like decrepit and wired into a machine being like, hello!

01:40:31.000 As long as we can help people, man, I'm into it.

01:40:33.000 That's a good point. 0.99

01:40:34.000 And they're gonna be like, you guys are old, your ideas are bad, it's time to die. 0.99

01:40:37.000 Mmm, that's a good point. 0.95

01:40:38.000 Daniel Domicic says, can we repeal the 19th already or have Andrew Tate be the Secretary

01:40:43.000 of Patriarchy with fresh and fit as deputies? 0.99

01:40:46.000 That New York City story was nonsensical feminist garbage. 1.00

01:40:49.000 What was that one? 0.99

01:40:50.000 Did you guys see Wired claimed that Andrew Tate was a convicted human trafficker?

01:40:54.000 Yeah.

01:40:55.000 Yeah.

01:40:55.000 I read that and went, whoa, whoa, he's not convicted of anything.

01:40:58.000 Yeah, lawsuit.

01:40:59.000 I hope he sues him.

01:41:00.000 Yeah.

01:41:00.000 I really hope he does, man.

01:41:02.000 I mean, he's, I don't know what's going on with his assets, but I'm pretty sure he's still got money.

01:41:06.000 I hope he just puts a lawyer on like a million dollar retainer and says, just, just take care of it.

01:41:10.000 Cause you, you can't call someone a convicted human trafficker.

01:41:13.000 That's defamation per se.

01:41:15.000 Like Wired will be ordered to pay out instantly.

01:41:17.000 They know they lost.

01:41:18.000 That's wild that got through their editorial, uh, their editors.

01:41:24.000 Let's go!

01:41:25.000 David Violet says, maybe we could host private MTG tournaments at select Casper locations.

01:41:31.000 I mean, we could.

01:41:32.000 I don't like Hasbro.

01:41:34.000 You know?

01:41:35.000 Maybe we need to make our game and get, uh, the, um... What is it?

01:41:40.000 What is the game called that we're making?

01:41:43.000 The current one?

01:41:44.000 Um... Culture War or something?

01:41:46.000 That was the first one we were working on.

01:41:48.000 We've got a couple that we have worked on.

01:41:50.000 The most recent one is, uh, Debate Me?

01:41:53.000 Debate Me!

01:41:53.000 Right.

01:41:54.000 That was good.

01:41:54.000 That's it.

01:41:54.000 Debate Me.

01:41:55.000 It's simple too.

01:41:56.000 I like it.

01:41:57.000 Yeah, so Debate Me is basically everybody gets two cards from the... It's a shared deck game, everybody gets two cards.

01:42:02.000 And you get two characters of varying acumen.

01:42:07.000 And so, like, the most power... There's left, right, center, and establishment.

01:42:10.000 And the most powerful of each is the prime.

01:42:13.000 So, like, Obama is the prime establishment debater.

01:42:18.000 And then it's like, you know, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, or whatever.

01:42:21.000 And then on the left you have... I don't know, who's a prominent leftist, like AOC or something.

01:42:26.000 And then on the right you have like Trump and Alex Jones and then basically the uh everybody will look at their cards and if they have a good debate team they will invite followers from from their social media to the debate and whoever wins the debate wins all the followers.

01:42:43.000 You see how this works?

01:42:45.000 Just like real life.

01:42:46.000 Yeah, so basically, there's a bunch of different formats, but everybody gets two cards, you look at your debate team, you say, okay, I'm gonna invite all my followers, or I'm gonna invite ten followers, because my team's not that good.

01:42:56.000 And then someone says, okay, I'll invite ten followers, and then the followers come to the debate, then three more players, debaters, come out to join your ranks, and whoever has the best five-card debate team wins all the followers.

01:43:06.000 Who makes the best argument?

01:43:07.000 What's the best argument?

01:43:08.000 Then you find out.

01:43:09.000 My argument is, yeah.

01:43:10.000 And so like, if you have Barack Obama and Alex Jones, you have two prime debaters, it's

01:43:15.000 a pair of prime debaters, it beats a pair of level 10 debaters.

01:43:19.000 And so for anybody who knows what poker is, they're like, you're just describing poker.

01:43:22.000 That's right.

01:43:23.000 The difference with this game is that there's going to be the base set and then there's cards with special abilities.

01:43:28.000 Yeah, those are fun.

01:43:29.000 So some of the cards, uh, there's like, I think, I think for Kamala Harris, she, she's a, uh, like a level.

01:43:38.000 So it's the way it works is there's levels one through 10, I think.

01:43:41.000 Is that what we did?

01:43:43.000 And then there's a one through 10 and then there's like.

01:43:46.000 No, no, no, it's one through twelve, and then the prime card.

01:43:49.000 And prime is like, it can, it can, it's basically an ace.

01:43:52.000 And so we made with Kamala Harris, she, she's effectively, in terms of playing card, she is labeled a jack, but the special ability on it says this card can actually only be played as a six.

01:44:04.000 Oh no, is that Kamala?

01:44:05.000 Yeah, I think.

01:44:05.000 Oh no, no, I think that's Karine Jean-Pierre.

01:44:08.000 Like, she is in the administration, but everyone knows she should not actually be of that, like, you know, job.

01:44:14.000 Her value is not what her name tag says.

01:44:16.000 Sorry, Corinne, I don't know you.

01:44:17.000 I'd love to know.

01:44:17.000 But no, but the thing is, that's not a bad thing.

01:44:19.000 You can just watch enough of the press conferences and you'll see she's cool going out to the bar, getting a drink with that girl, she cool. 1.00

01:44:26.000 So this is actually not a bad thing.

01:44:27.000 For anybody who knows poker, this means in one deck you can have five sixes.

01:44:32.000 Which means it's easier to make- you can make five of a kind, which actually, if you get four sixes plus screenshot up here, you have an unbeatable hand.

01:44:39.000 It beats a royal flush.

01:44:40.000 That's a really powerful card.

01:44:41.000 Yeah, it's extremely rare, but it would make the most pow- it would make it- she would be the most powerful card as a component of the most powerful hand. 0.86

01:44:47.000 It would beat, effectively, a royal flush.

01:44:49.000 As she does.

01:44:51.000 Which we would call an administration.

01:44:54.000 Like a royal flush would be like, you know, you have Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, whatever.

01:45:00.000 But, uh, basically the actual function of the game is it's based on poker, but the cards are gonna have varying rarities, and you construct the deck however you want.

01:45:11.000 The cards are gonna be nuts, like, uh, the golden God Emperor Trump card that we're making?

01:45:16.000 It, uh, it could, it, it, the single card in and of itself?

01:45:20.000 Is as strong as pocket aces.

01:45:22.000 So it's like this card instantly will be, you know, is valued as two prime debaters.

01:45:29.000 And we even have cards where it's like, if you have this card, you win the debate upon revealing it.

01:45:35.000 And some people are like, well, that's too powerful of a card to have in a game.

01:45:38.000 It's a shared deck game, meaning you choose the cards you want in it because anyone could get any card.

01:45:43.000 So if you don't like that card, don't play with it.

01:45:46.000 So it's really like- Oh, I love that.

01:45:47.000 Yeah, so it's a wild game, and we've got most of the mechanics already set up and done, and it's really simple.

01:45:52.000 It's basically just super simple poker, but with fun trading cards that can do silly things.

01:45:58.000 So it's meant- it's not meant to be played seriously like poker is.

01:46:01.000 It's meant to be more silly, like, my Trump debates are Jordan Peterson.

01:46:06.000 It'd be fun.

01:46:08.000 Cody Justin Fannin says, Carrie Lake has no principles. 1.00

01:46:11.000 She caves to get political points. 0.99

01:46:13.000 Abortion is murder.

01:46:14.000 Yeah, you know, it's funny because I love the Republicans admitting that abortion is a losing issue.

01:46:20.000 It's the right move.

01:46:20.000 It's absolutely the right move.

01:46:23.000 The idea that you're going to be able to win if you just are like taking the position, we're going to outlaw abortion. 0.99

01:46:32.000 It's a loser.

01:46:33.000 There's not so many people that won't vote for Joe Biden, but if they're told that it's going to make abortion illegal, they will vote for Joe Biden. 0.95

01:46:40.000 So don't do that.

01:46:40.000 You got a lot of voters that don't want to vote for that guy right now.

01:46:42.000 A lot of the voting that happens nowadays is voting against people.

01:46:46.000 People didn't vote for Joe Biden, they voted against Donald Trump.

01:46:49.000 People didn't vote for Donald Trump, they voted against Hillary Clinton.

01:46:52.000 Trump's abortion stance, he should have come out and been like, my official position on abortion is that it should be completely legal, we gotta bring back Roe v. Wade, it was a big mistake, and anyone can get an abortion whenever they want.

01:47:05.000 Because Republicans will still vote for him.

01:47:08.000 And then Democrats are gonna be like, what?

01:47:11.000 And there are already group chats where people are saying, don't worry about what Trump is saying.

01:47:16.000 We know his record on abortion.

01:47:19.000 What he's saying is just to win votes, and we know what he would do with power.

01:47:23.000 So Trump just needs to come out and be like, no, no, we want all the states to legalize it.

01:47:28.000 Women should be allowed to get abortions at any point, even after the baby's born. 1.00

01:47:31.000 I don't care, quite literally, do whatever you want.

01:47:33.000 I mean, it's something that we say over and over, but Trump is a New York City Democrat.

01:47:39.000 That's from 10 years ago.

01:47:41.000 That's it.

01:47:42.000 Like he is not in any way a conservative. 0.99

01:47:45.000 The left is insane and anti-American. 0.65

01:47:48.000 So Donald Trump being like, you know what? 0.77

01:47:50.000 I don't hate America means that he is like the conservative.

01:47:54.000 That's all it is.

01:47:55.000 It's the whole, you know, the left is so far left.

01:47:58.000 So the center seems like it's right.

01:48:01.000 I was always when he ran as a Republican in 2016, I thought he was going to go independent or maybe even Democrat at first, but the Democratic Party is already wrapped up.

01:48:07.000 Ben Hickson says, do you record the show separate to the live stream as contingency?

01:48:11.000 Stop funny business.

01:48:12.000 If so, where would you upload clean recording?

01:48:15.000 We do, and the clean recording is used for all podcast platforms.

01:48:20.000 So when you listen on Apple or Spotify or whatever it is, you Google podcasts, that is the clean recording, not the streamed version.

01:48:30.000 Let's see what we have.

01:48:32.000 Juan Castle says, cheers to episode 1000!

01:48:34.000 God bless you all.

01:48:36.000 God bless you.

01:48:37.000 Yeah.

01:48:38.000 Grofty says spin that UFO, Ian, and roll that beautiful bean footage.

01:48:43.000 What is that?

01:48:45.000 I don't know.

01:48:46.000 I'm gonna spin it till it starts to wobble.

01:48:46.000 Big beans.

01:48:49.000 Look at that!

01:48:51.000 It's wobbling because you're aiming the duster at a downward angle.

01:48:58.000 Can you get it going?

01:49:00.000 Do you ever watch a thing spin so fast that it explodes?

01:49:02.000 You need to keep it aimed directly at the side, so what happens is...

01:49:07.000 This thing is levitating, and when you blow down, it pushes one side, right?

01:49:11.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:49:11.000 And that sends that downward motion wobbling back and forth, which limits the amount of spin the thing can achieve because it's gonna wobble out of control.

01:49:20.000 So if you put it right at the edge... I'm spinning it in reverse.

01:49:29.000 Yeah.

01:49:30.000 Nice.

01:49:30.000 I'm slowing it down.

01:49:38.000 It's like magic.

01:49:41.000 Yes!

01:49:44.000 The issue then is it spins so fast that it's trying to, it pushes it out of the magnetic field.

01:49:52.000 So that's spinning much faster because I wasn't pushing down on it.

01:49:52.000 Wow.

01:49:56.000 I think, was it a magnet spinning and then it exploded?

01:49:59.000 Did you guys see that video?

01:50:00.000 It just spins, spins, spins, and there's like...

01:50:02.000 It's over.

01:50:02.000 Yeah, they use a water pressure thing.

01:50:04.000 I should find it.

01:50:05.000 There's a video where they take a skateboard wheel and they use a water jet, like a water

01:50:09.000 cutter and it spins it so fast, the wheel, and this is hard urethane, just explodes.

01:50:15.000 It gets bigger and bigger and it just blows up.

01:50:17.000 Wow.

01:50:18.000 Let's go.

01:50:19.000 Greg Dubier says, I believe it is 2020.

01:50:23.000 I believe it is in 2020 being an All That Remains fan.

01:50:27.000 The YouTube algorithm showed my clips of Phil's episode.

01:50:30.000 I've been watching since.

01:50:31.000 Ah, okay, I see, I see.

01:50:34.000 Alright, we had one, I gotta read, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:50:37.000 says, it's nice knowing you all, for my stakes will stay medium and my eggs will stay over easy.

01:50:42.000 It's better than punched in the face by male rage.

01:50:45.000 Go 1000.

01:50:46.000 Go 1,000, Raymond.

01:50:47.000 They're running stories now where they're like, due to the bird flu outbreak, you must cook your steaks medium well or well done.

01:50:54.000 Your eggs must be cooked all the way through.

01:50:55.000 No more over-easy or sunny-side up.

01:50:57.000 Wow. 0.68

01:50:57.000 Weren't those the same people talking trash on Trump's steaks back in the day, too? 0.68

01:51:00.000 Not to say they aren't bad. 0.53

01:51:02.000 I wouldn't cook a steak like that.

01:51:03.000 That's the recommendation now is to have no runny eggs at all, Craig.

01:51:09.000 No runny eggs.

01:51:10.000 And no soft-boiled.

01:51:11.000 It's got to be hard-boiled or scrambled.

01:51:14.000 And steaks have to be cooked all the way through.

01:51:16.000 But as everybody knows, once you cook the steak through, you just throw it in the garbage.

01:51:20.000 Because it's ruined.

01:51:21.000 Yeah, because it's ruined. 0.84

01:51:22.000 So what they're basically saying is, eat garbage, which I won't do.

01:51:25.000 Um, so I will continue to eat my steaks. 0.87

01:51:28.000 Rare.

01:51:28.000 Uh, honestly, it just gives me blue.

01:51:32.000 Just don't even cook it.

01:51:33.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:34.000 Like pan sear it, just shh, shh, and then here you go.

01:51:37.000 Just, just raw.

01:51:38.000 I'm thinking about that restaurant I told you about earlier.

01:51:41.000 I don't want to mention it on air because I want to go there this weekend.

01:51:43.000 Alright.

01:51:44.000 And then I'll tell you about it next week.

01:51:47.000 The Lion says, the first TimCast IRL episode I watched was not an episode, it was a tour of the van.

01:51:52.000 The first TimCast video I ever watched was about the Oberlin University bakery case.

01:51:55.000 It's been a wild ride, Tim.

01:51:56.000 Oh wow.

01:51:56.000 Thank you so much for watching.

01:51:58.000 Yeah.

01:51:58.000 TimCast IRL, the original idea was I could do the Tim Pool Daily Show on the road, in the van, which is sitting outside.

01:52:06.000 And so that means I would have my daily podcast every day, and then once I could drive around and go wherever I wanted.

01:52:11.000 And then what I would do is I'd stop at various universities, put up a table, and then do Timcast IRL, meaning I would just have general conversations with people about whatever they wanted to talk about.

01:52:21.000 And then COVID happened.

01:52:23.000 So here we are.

01:52:23.000 Now I'm trapped in a box and I can't leave.

01:52:26.000 I mean, you still have the van.

01:52:29.000 Yeah, but IRL is something different.

01:52:30.000 So it's like the first thing I did was like, here's a tour of the van, and instantly got like 70,000 subscribers to the new channel.

01:52:36.000 And I was like, it's going to be travel, it's going to be on the ground talking with regular people.

01:52:41.000 And then COVID happened.

01:52:43.000 So then I was like, we can't go anywhere or do anything.

01:52:45.000 So we'll just The original idea for the show was actually to talk about UFOs, ghosts, murder mysteries, and nonsense.

01:52:53.000 Yeah, we had the chupacabra lined up.

01:52:55.000 We had the weird wild, we were gonna call it, or something like that.

01:52:58.000 Well, you should still do some crazy- Well, Shane's doing that one now.

01:53:01.000 Yes!

01:53:01.000 Inverted World Sundays.

01:53:02.000 It's gonna be on Sundays?

01:53:04.000 Yes.

01:53:04.000 And it's gonna be like people calling in, telling their stories.

01:53:06.000 So it's gonna be really fun.

01:53:09.000 But the original idea, like one of the first videos, you can go way back and look at these, they're all on the channel, was Skinwalker Ranch, just generally talking about weird fun things.

01:53:18.000 And then we didn't have any guests because, like, the lockdown, but early on we had a couple guests and we talked about dating and just random stuff.

01:53:24.000 The idea was, I was just like, well, we can't go anywhere because it's getting crazy with the lockdown, so what can we do?

01:53:31.000 And I was like, I can make more segments than just the ones I'm already doing on subjects that are unrelated to news and politics.

01:53:38.000 And then for a variety of reasons, the show was not that.

01:53:44.000 Those were such warm days, man.

01:53:46.000 I moved out to your place while you and Adam were doing the show, and I was like baking bread while you guys were doing the show.

01:53:50.000 And I remember after the show, they'd come in, we'd be like, yo, let's play Magic!

01:53:52.000 And we'd all hang out.

01:53:53.000 That was so fun.

01:53:54.000 Yeah, well, that was also the show I did at 10.

01:53:57.000 Now we do an hour-long after show.

01:53:59.000 So become a member at TimCast.com, because quite literally, it's an entirely different podcast, Monday through Thursdays at 10pm, where people call into the show.

01:54:08.000 And I wonder if there, you know, I don't know, we got to do better marketing.

01:54:12.000 I bet if we did good marketing, we'd have way more members and be doing a lot more.

01:54:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:16.000 I think so too, because we got, we got Gamer Maids, we got Pop Culture Crisis, we have huge shows on this network, and we got Inverted World coming up, and it's also, we got a lot of content.

01:54:25.000 Pop Culture Crisis is doing really well.

01:54:27.000 They have over 100,000 subs now.

01:54:28.000 I think they just hit their 500th episode.

01:54:30.000 And what are they hitting, like 1,500 concurrence on their streams now?

01:54:34.000 Yeah, we do between 1,000 and 1,500 usually when I'm there.

01:54:36.000 Wow.

01:54:37.000 Shout out to Brett Sassevic and Mary Morgan.

01:54:39.000 I'll be there tomorrow and Wednesday and Thursday.

01:54:41.000 It's all about the grind, man.

01:54:42.000 I remember when they started and they were getting like 100, 200.

01:54:44.000 Yeah.

01:54:45.000 Then there was one day where it was like they were 1,000.

01:54:47.000 Then I tuned in a month or two ago and it was like 1,400 and I was like, they're killing it.

01:54:52.000 Yeah.

01:54:53.000 Consistent.

01:54:53.000 That's the game, man.

01:54:54.000 I love those guys, actually.

01:54:55.000 Yeah.

01:54:55.000 I think Mary is out on the West Coast or something right now?

01:54:58.000 Yeah.

01:54:58.000 You're filling in for Mary?

01:54:59.000 Mm-hmm.

01:55:00.000 Cool.

01:55:02.000 Gaming Slosh says, can you have Carrie Lake on again to explain her newfound position on abortion? 1.00

01:55:06.000 See new press release.

01:55:07.000 Thanks for all you do.

01:55:08.000 Is that where she's like, I agree with Trump?

01:55:12.000 Here's what I would do.

01:55:14.000 If I was a conservative who was staunchly pro-life and said abortion should be banned, and then Trump came out and said, no, it should go to the states, I would not come out and go, oh, wow, you know, it should be.

01:55:25.000 I'd come out and say, I've long held deep convictions about opposing abortion, but I recognize the realities are going to be We have to respect the state's limit, and while that's not necessarily the position I would like to see, it's the reality that I will accept, and I will take Donald Trump's lead on the issue.

01:55:42.000 That being said, I am not staunchly pro-life.

01:55:46.000 I do think abortion is wrong, especially in the instance of literally just killing babies because they're using it as contraception, but I think...

01:55:55.000 I think Trump is wrong.

01:55:57.000 I do not believe it is a state's issue.

01:55:59.000 I do not believe it is morally consistent to say that you believe it's murder, but that also states can decide when murder is allowed to happen.

01:56:08.000 Like, well, it's a woman's choice whether or not she kills someone. 0.97

01:56:11.000 No, it isn't.

01:56:12.000 So the Supreme Court needs to answer the question.

01:56:14.000 And, uh, and Ian.

01:56:16.000 I got 50 billion messages from everybody about your statement where you said, can you prove a baby's alive?

01:56:21.000 And they all said, no, I babies, you mean infant in the womb?

01:56:26.000 I always say that's living.

01:56:27.000 I don't say, is it a human?

01:56:29.000 And so you said until you can like read the baby's mind of it saying, I don't want to die.

01:56:33.000 Yeah.

01:56:34.000 There are tons of videos where they did ultrasounds during abortions and the baby fights for its life.

01:56:39.000 Yeah.

01:56:39.000 I've seen those.

01:56:40.000 So then it's already proven to you.

01:56:40.000 Well, I'm talking about the really little ones, like two, 20 weeks, 25 weeks.

01:56:44.000 They might have pain tolerance, but when they can think and they can communicate

01:56:47.000 and tell you, like really let you know, I think in a way, not just an animal.

01:56:52.000 I think trying not to die.

01:56:54.000 Well, it's like that is not that.

01:56:56.000 Like this is so outside of the realm of possibility, because like

01:56:59.000 when you're first born, you can't even see like.

01:57:02.000 You don't have the ability to conceptualize things.

01:57:09.000 You couldn't communicate with a baby.

01:57:11.000 If you had telepathy, you wouldn't be able to get something back.

01:57:15.000 I think you could.

01:57:16.000 It might not be English.

01:57:18.000 No, you couldn't.

01:57:20.000 If this were real, right?

01:57:21.000 Because I don't believe any of this.

01:57:22.000 I think this is all make-believe.

01:57:24.000 But if you could telepathically communicate with a baby, it would be emotions you could get, and that's it.

01:57:33.000 Because there's no larger concepts.

01:57:36.000 It takes words To understand concepts.

01:57:39.000 That's how we think.

01:57:40.000 The reason there's no... Okay, let's read some more.

01:57:43.000 You can sense fear from the baby in the womb.

01:57:46.000 You can watch it!

01:57:47.000 I know that it jerks and moves.

01:57:48.000 That's like an animalistic reaction to getting jabbed.

01:57:51.000 Okay, okay.

01:57:53.000 There's no answer that will satisfy you.

01:57:55.000 Well, I've talked about this for hours.

01:57:57.000 I'm not trying to solve it.

01:57:58.000 You're like, unless the baby can tell you.

01:58:00.000 I don't know how... It hasn't learned to speak.

01:58:02.000 Babies can't talk for like... They can't communicate effectively for a year or whatever.

01:58:08.000 So, a baby in the womb resisting being aborted I think is about as close as you could possibly get.

01:58:14.000 It's probably, it's likely that if, like, if you were to go in and try to, like, reach in with forceps to try to help the baby be born, right?

01:58:22.000 No malicious intent.

01:58:22.000 You're not trying to, to kill it.

01:58:24.000 Like, if the baby could actually communicate, it'd be like, holy crap, I'm terrified! 0.99

01:58:29.000 Stop! 1.00

01:58:30.000 It's too cold!

01:58:30.000 So, like, you're not gonna get, like, it's, yeah.

01:58:32.000 Let's read some more superchats.

01:58:33.000 We got Michael Bullock who says, I disagree!

01:58:34.000 it's not that conservatives would say there is no longer a government.

01:58:37.000 More like, quote, our government no longer operates under its imposed limits and we invoke

01:58:42.000 the duty of the people under the Declaration of Independence.

01:58:44.000 I disagree.

01:58:45.000 I don't agree, Michael.

01:58:48.000 Because conservatives already are saying the government no longer operates.

01:58:51.000 They've been saying for years it's a corrupt mafia system, and it's a two-tiered system of justice.

01:58:57.000 And for four years they've been claiming that Joe Biden's not even the real president, and no one has invoked anything under the declaration.

01:59:02.000 I do not believe that'll happen.

01:59:04.000 What is more likely to happen is there's gonna be some morbidly obese redneck guy living in the sticks who's gonna be like, I ain't no government as far as I can tell. 1.00

01:59:13.000 We had a bunch of people come in and steal everything from us.

01:59:16.000 Best get the boys rounded up so we can stop the bandits from taking our donkeys again.

01:59:20.000 And then they're gonna go out with their guns, and they're gonna form their own patrols, their own watch groups, and then when the federal government comes, they're gonna be like, I know nothing about nothing, I know who you are, you ain't welcome here.

01:59:31.000 And they're gonna be like, we're the government, I ain't no idea what you're talking about.

01:59:33.000 That's why you need decentralized peace, because if they don't have phones, and they really have literally no communication, they have no idea who these people are coming to take stuff, that's a real problem.

01:59:43.000 That's a real problem.

01:59:44.000 It's not ideological, it's a legitimate de facto, they don't know what's going on.

01:59:47.000 You can't force them to take information.

01:59:49.000 You can't, like, Inject it.

01:59:51.000 If they don't want a phone, if they don't want to participate.

01:59:53.000 And that's why we built this society as we have with local government.

01:59:57.000 The issue I'm saying is, I'm not worried about a moment when conservatives stand up and go, I hereby declare the government is corrupt and declare a redress of grievances under our sacred duty.

02:00:10.000 And then a bunch of conservatives go, here, here, and bang their steins together.

02:00:14.000 And then they say, the new Sons of Liberty is born.

02:00:16.000 1776 will rise again.

02:00:18.000 No, that's meaningless to me.

02:00:20.000 What's scary is far leftists firebombing federal buildings, most of them not getting criminally charged, roving gangs taking over city streets on numerous occasions, and then the final straw on the camel's back is people on the right who live in small towns.

02:00:36.000 You know, I drove through the panhandle of Oklahoma.

02:00:39.000 And there are some small towns, really, like 120 people and there's nothing for 50 miles.

02:00:46.000 It's wild when you really get out there in the middle of nowhere.

02:00:49.000 And I'm talking about these places where they have a bunch of guns and they're just like, look.

02:00:54.000 We had some guy come in and kill somebody.

02:00:57.000 We had another guy come in and stole a tractor.

02:00:59.000 A gun's gone missing.

02:01:01.000 There is no sheriff.

02:01:02.000 There is no FBI.

02:01:03.000 There is no law enforcement.

02:01:04.000 They don't answer anymore.

02:01:05.000 We call them on the phone.

02:01:07.000 They're not there.

02:01:08.000 What do we do?

02:01:09.000 And then some guy goes, I think we're gonna have to form our own patrol.

02:01:12.000 And they go, okay.

02:01:14.000 Yeah.

02:01:14.000 and then they have their own patrol.

02:01:16.000 And then one day when a federal officer is driving through, they stop them and say, can I help you?

02:01:20.000 And he goes, yeah, what is this?

02:01:23.000 He's like, I'm a FBI.

02:01:24.000 And they go, I don't know what you're talking about, sir.

02:01:26.000 You're gonna have to turn this car around and leave because you're not welcome to come through here.

02:01:29.000 We have emergency going on and we've set up a checkpoint.

02:01:32.000 And then he's gonna say, I'm the government.

02:01:34.000 You have to listen to me.

02:01:34.000 And they say, no, you're gonna turn around right now because we don't know who you are.

02:01:39.000 That's what I'm talking about.

02:01:39.000 When that kind of, when the right engages in effectively what the left is already doing.

02:01:44.000 Whereas they begin operating as though there was no government.

02:01:47.000 In Seattle and Portland, they march around their streets with rifles.

02:01:51.000 And they point them at people.

02:01:53.000 There was one instance where a bunch of far leftists were armed with AR-15s, and they were blocking intersections, and a car pulled up, and they pointed the rifles at the guy, so he drew his pistol and he pointed it back at them.

02:02:06.000 When the right starts acting in that way, then it's just... But here's what we're going to do.

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02:02:31.000 Yeah, absolutely.

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02:03:00.000 Are you looking to hit an upper limit?

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02:03:25.000 It's really, really, really entertaining.

02:03:26.000 It's nice to have this in front of me while we're talking.

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02:03:43.000 Exactly.

02:03:43.000 Cool stuff.

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