Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Fauci Docs DROP, Tulsi ACCUSES Fauci of LYING About Lab Leak | Timcast IRL

00:01:33.000 Hello, everybody.

00:01:34.000 Welcome to Timcast Live.

00:01:35.000 My name is Phil Abonte.

00:01:36.000 I'll be hosting tonight on IRL.

00:01:38.000 We've got a bunch of big stories for you.

00:01:40.000 Yesterday, DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, has released a boatload of papers and information that spotlights Fauci knew about the origin of COVID.

00:01:50.000 There's also some information that the CIA tried to quash complaints against Fauci for lying to Congress.

00:01:56.000 Now, Rand Paul was really big on this.

00:01:58.000 So I'm interested to see if there's anything that'll come out over the weekend or beginning next week from Rand Paul, some kind of statement.

00:02:04.000 But we'll talk about that.

00:02:05.000 We've got information on obviously the Iran deal.

00:02:09.000 It seems that the Iran deal is kind of in limbo now because JD Vance was heading to speak with, I believe, heading to Switzerland, I think, to speak with the Iranian representatives and they got called off.

00:02:23.000 There were strikes in Lebanon against Hezbollah.

00:02:27.000 Obviously, it was Israel that was carrying out the strike.

00:02:29.000 So it looks like it's kind of in limbo.

00:02:32.000 We don't know if it's actually going to happen.

00:02:34.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:02:35.000 There is a measure in LA.

00:02:38.000 To allow non citizens to vote in citywide elections.

00:02:42.000 Now, this is coming to California more broadly eventually, should the Democrats get their way.

00:02:49.000 And honestly, if the Democrats could, they would make it nationwide.

00:02:52.000 So, we're going to get into that.

00:02:54.000 There's also a bunch of hubbub from the San Francisco Giants Pride night, right?

00:02:59.000 Like they had to have the pride flag on their logo.

00:03:04.000 And now the DOJ has a probe into it.

00:03:06.000 We're also going to, if we have time, we'll talk about the.

00:03:09.000 The problems that young people are facing because one in three adults under 35 are still living with their parents. 1.00

00:03:16.000 And then Supergirl's kind of being a jerk on the media trail. 0.95

00:03:21.000 And this worked so well for Brie Larson that she's like, I'm going to do that. 0.96

00:03:27.000 So, yeah, we're going to just jump right into it.

00:03:29.000 Joining us tonight to talk about all this, we have Noah Hall.

00:03:33.000 Yeah, Noah Wall, president and founder of State Leadership Initiative at Noah Wall on X. Jacob Weimer?

00:03:40.000 Yeah, I'm the chief of staff for the State Leadership Initiative.

00:03:42.000 You're at Red States Lead.

00:03:44.000 That's the State Leadership Initiative Council. 0.95

00:03:46.000 Awesome.

00:03:47.000 Ian's here.

00:03:47.000 Hi.

00:03:49.000 Hey, everybody.

00:03:50.000 He did a rock and roll thing.

00:03:51.000 He did not change the weather with his mind.

00:03:53.000 Well, that's a bold claim.

00:03:55.000 That's like saying there's no God.

00:03:56.000 That's a bold claim.

00:03:57.000 That's probably the most mundane thing that I could possibly say.

00:04:00.000 I'm more agnostic on the issue.

00:04:01.000 I don't know if it is or isn't.

00:04:03.000 11 56 p.m. the other day, you were like, it is.

00:04:05.000 I felt the rain trickle.

00:04:06.000 Yeah.

00:04:07.000 So that cloud was passing north.

00:04:08.000 And you were right.

00:04:09.000 There's a huge cloud that you can watch the weather like, it's like, Pulsing.

00:04:12.000 It actually looks like it's rolling, but you only get a two dimensional look on the radar.

00:04:15.000 But it looks like it's rolling towards us.

00:04:17.000 It was going north.

00:04:18.000 I meditated and focused and then drew it towards us.

00:04:21.000 So we got that rain yesterday.

00:04:23.000 Well, let's get into it.

00:04:24.000 No.

00:04:25.000 Yeah.

00:04:25.000 Carter's here.

00:04:25.000 Let's.

00:04:26.000 So hi, Carter.

00:04:26.000 What up, dude?

00:04:27.000 We'll get into it.

00:04:28.000 Welcome, guys.

00:04:28.000 So from Fox News, Gabbard spotlights Fauci COVID origin questions in final act as intelligence chief amid succession fight.

00:04:37.000 So most people know that yesterday was DNI Gabbard's last day as the chief.

00:04:42.000 She is leaving to go spend time with her husband who's fighting cancer.

00:04:45.000 So, Fox News reports just before leaving office amid a contentious battle over who will secede her, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard used one of her final acts atop the U.S. intelligence community to spotlight Dr. Anthony Fauci's role in discussions surrounding the government's COVID 19 origins review.

00:05:02.000 While much of the material is familiar, Gabbard's release underscores her effort to make questions surrounding Fauci, COVID origin, and federal support for virus research part of her closing legacy atop the intelligence community.

00:05:15.000 As Gabbard fired her Fired her final broadside.

00:05:18.000 Bill Pulte, who has received bipartisan criticism over his lack of intelligence expertise, is set to take the reins at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence while Trump's permanent nominee remains stalled.

00:05:29.000 Jay Clayton, an attorney and former SEC chairman who Trump nominated to permanently lead ODNI, has seen his confirmation process delayed after the president said he was holding up the nomination pressure Congress to pass a voter identification measure.

00:05:43.000 Does this actually matter?

00:05:45.000 Fauci's been pardoned, so there's nothing that can actually be done.

00:05:50.000 Generally, at least among our viewers, Everyone kind of is like, well, duh, right?

00:05:56.000 They knew, according to our viewers, they believed that Fauci had a hand in it.

00:06:01.000 All the evidence that came out seems to point to Fauci having some kind of involvement.

00:06:09.000 Now, whether or not this was something that CIA was involved, we'll talk about a little bit.

00:06:13.000 What do you guys think?

00:06:13.000 Does this actually matter?

00:06:15.000 I would say yes.

00:06:17.000 So, what she released were a lot of the emails between Fauci and the intelligence community.

00:06:24.000 So, we have new information we did not have about the level of coordination in that op.

00:06:30.000 And very clearly, I mean, she demonstrated that that was an op.

00:06:33.000 And what I would add to this, too, you know, yes, he was pardoned.

00:06:38.000 This, I think, gives, you know, there's a lot, you know, the folks over at the Oversight Project, Mike Howell and many others have been talking about, you know, were these pardons legitimate?

00:06:48.000 You know, was this an auto pen pardon?

00:06:51.000 You know, there's a lot of questions, I think, about the legitimacy of the pardon.

00:06:55.000 And this may give us the, Ammunition that we need to be able to further that along.

00:07:00.000 Isn't there a statute of limitation on this stuff?

00:07:03.000 Some of it.

00:07:05.000 But, you know, I mean, so like the statute of limitations, I think, particularly applies to like the, you know, the depositions to Congress where, you know, he was, were actually those emails show that he lied to Congress knowingly and talked to the intelligence community about that.

00:07:24.000 But what I would say is, you know, I. He's alleged to admitted to the intelligence community that he lied to Congress.

00:07:30.000 Yeah.

00:07:31.000 One of you know, in Tulsi's overview of the document, she talks about how that was one of the items that she released were documents that, you know, back and forth about that congressional testimony.

00:07:31.000 So.

00:07:44.000 So, what I would say is, you know, depending on this evidence, if it's admissible, I think that this could give us kind of the ammunition to maybe try some of those, you know, because we're not only alleging that his crimes were, you know, lying to Congress.

00:08:00.000 I think that there's a lot of other potential crimes there.

00:08:02.000 May not have the same statute of limitations.

00:08:05.000 This might give us what we need to be able to challenge the legitimacy of his pardon.

00:08:11.000 Yeah.

00:08:11.000 And what's like more concerning, or maybe not more concerning, like, you know, given the part of the Fauci and everything, what was leaked in those documents, or not leaked, what was revealed in those documents was that all these intelligence assets that were trying to go through the normal, legitimate, codified whistleblower process were prevented from doing so or pressured against doing so.

00:08:31.000 In the video, she references how, like, People that wanted to come forth anonymously, which is like by federal statute what they have to do, they were, for whatever reason, like they weren't allowed to do so.

00:08:41.000 Like they had to whistleblow under their name.

00:08:43.000 And the other aspect was if they did come forward with like concerns over what Fauci was saying, they were told that this would directly impact their career.

00:08:52.000 So there's all sorts of, I think, also opportunity to go after the intelligence community that actively pressured people from not doing this and also seemingly violated certain federal statutes on like what.

00:09:04.000 The whistleblower process even is. 0.79

00:09:06.000 I'm going to steal Man Fauci for a minute, who I'm not a big Fauci fan, but if I was the president and we were working on a secret bioweapons program, which, dear God, I hope everybody is, if the enemies are working on one, we should probably have one too.

00:09:19.000 And I tell my scientists, wouldn't it be better if we were working on cures? 0.52

00:09:23.000 What's cures and diseases and all the above?

00:09:26.000 Yeah, the weapons and cures and all this.

00:09:28.000 And I have my scientists lying to the public about it on purpose because, you know, that's at my command as the president.

00:09:34.000 Either they lie or they get fired.

00:09:36.000 And so they lie for me.

00:09:38.000 Are they really to blame then?

00:09:40.000 Are they the ones that get the book thrown at them when everything comes out?

00:09:42.000 Or was it the guy instructing him to lie?

00:09:44.000 Or was he not even instructed to lie?

00:09:44.000 I don't know.

00:09:46.000 Is this all a Fauci plan?

00:09:47.000 I can't imagine that a bioweapons thing is a Fauci thing.

00:09:50.000 It seems like it would go up to the military.

00:09:52.000 I mean, well, to your point, like the buck does kind of stop with the president, right?

00:09:57.000 But there's also, you know, we were talking about how top secret programs work and compartmentalization.

00:10:05.000 So the president.

00:10:07.000 May be aware broadly that something's going on for this particular issue, but the president might not know about the ins and outs.

00:10:17.000 Not that the president can't, because, like our guest was saying last night or maybe two nights ago, when it comes to secret compartmentalized information, you might know about it or know that something's going on, but not really have all the details because it's not pertinent to your day to day job.

00:10:34.000 So, whether it should go all the way to the president, whether it be president, President Trump or President Obama or President Biden.

00:10:42.000 It really depends on how likely it is that it was a directive from the president or whether it was just like, hey, Mr. President, we're working on biological stuff.

00:10:54.000 And the president's like, okay, yeah, we need to do that and kind of just goes on to the next topic.

00:11:00.000 I mean, from my perspective, the deep state used COVID to make sure Trump could not win his second term.

00:11:10.000 Fauci.

00:11:11.000 Like he, he, he still, he pushed this entire agenda in a way to trap Trump into, like, so I, what I'm trying to say is it your opinion that it was released intentionally?

00:11:24.000 No, I'm saying that it was used.

00:11:26.000 Okay.

00:11:27.000 You know, I think that he, you know, they created a situation.

00:11:32.000 One of the, you know, some of the emails that Tulsi, you know, talks about that they released were such that, you know, how, You know, what are we going to say the cause of this is?

00:11:44.000 They talk about, you know, the fact that they lied about, you know, the actual origins of it.

00:11:50.000 You know, they made it so you couldn't discuss China as being, you know, where all of this stuff originated from.

00:11:58.000 So, I mean, like they created a situation to box Trump into a corner and they forced his response to be in a way that hurt him most politically.

00:12:06.000 I think Trump has every cause in the world to go after Fauci.

00:12:10.000 And I think he absolutely should.

00:12:12.000 And I think that, you know, I think they should be really looking at opportunities.

00:12:16.000 To undermine the pardon, I really think that that's an aspect that we need to go after.

00:12:23.000 So, say to push the legitimacy issue as far as they can.

00:12:27.000 That wasn't a legitimate pardon because Biden used the auto pen.

00:12:31.000 You don't know that Biden actually directed it.

00:12:33.000 It could have been one of his subordinates or something.

00:12:36.000 Yeah, I think that it is not established that Biden, I think from the perspective of the people who've looked into this on our side, they are not convinced that Biden knew that everyone was getting pardoned.

00:12:49.000 It was a staff led decision.

00:12:51.000 If that is the case and that can be shown, I think that there's a very strong case to make that those pardons are not legitimate.

00:12:58.000 This could be our opportunity.

00:13:00.000 There has been reporting that a lot of the actual day to day operations were staff led, that Biden wasn't really there.

00:13:09.000 Biden wasn't cognizant of all the decisions being made.

00:13:13.000 And so then that does bring into question what did Joe Biden actually know about whether it be pardons or whether it be national security or foreign policy or what have you?

00:13:24.000 You were going to say something?

00:13:25.000 Well, have there been examples over time of pardons getting undone?

00:13:30.000 After the fact.

00:13:31.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:13:32.000 I mean, my understanding is almost no.

00:13:35.000 Like, I'm not going to say that it's never happened, but this is a new field of law.

00:13:40.000 And it's new because this is the first instance we have where a president is signing pardons.

00:13:46.000 Well, his signature is being used to sign pardons that he was not cognizant of.

00:13:51.000 The law is very clear.

00:13:52.000 President can pardon anyone for anything.

00:13:54.000 Like, it's a pretty wide blanket.

00:13:56.000 But if it's not him doing it, it's a different issue.

00:13:59.000 This kind of makes me wonder if that's actually a good precedent to set.

00:14:02.000 To set because you know for a fact, and this is something we talk about Democrats are going to be going after the entire administration once they get back into power, right?

00:14:12.000 Excuse me.

00:14:14.000 Should the Democrats in 28 win the House, the Senate, and the White House, it's not going to be just, you know, okay, we're going to start, we're going to take over from here and we're going to fix things.

00:14:26.000 There's going to be investigations, there's going to be attempts to put Donald Trump and a lot of the people that are in his administration in jail.

00:14:33.000 They're going to go after conservative.

00:14:36.000 They're going to go after podcasters.

00:14:38.000 It's going to be like COVID days, but on 10 because they're going to try to consolidate power.

00:14:44.000 They're going to do all the things they talk about when it comes to expanding the court.

00:14:48.000 They're going to do all they can about to make D.C. and Puerto Rico a state.

00:14:52.000 I mean, look, there are people that if they could do it, they would either expand the court or they'd dissolve the Senate entirely, say that it's unnecessary.

00:15:00.000 It's a vestige of the past.

00:15:03.000 And look, there might be an argument for it because with the popular election of senators, Their actual constitutional role has been completely dissolved.

00:15:16.000 If you've got popular elections of senators, senators are supposed to represent the state legislatures, they're not supposed to represent the people.

00:15:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:15:25.000 So it's possible that this becomes a real thing.

00:15:29.000 So do you think that that's a good precedent to set?

00:15:32.000 I think that I'm not an attorney.

00:15:36.000 There's a lot more smarter attorneys that are dealing with this than me.

00:15:40.000 What I would say is a narrow opinion that someone else can't sign pardons on the president's behalf doesn't ultimately affect the president's ability to sign pardons.

00:15:52.000 Trump's just going to need to film himself signing every pardon that he signs going forward.

00:15:57.000 Which I think he basically does.

00:15:58.000 Well, now you got like AI video.

00:15:59.000 So, how would you know that it was really him?

00:16:02.000 Because you could use digital.

00:16:04.000 There's like DocuSign.

00:16:05.000 So, technically, you're not the one signing it, even though it's because you're using a computer to put the marks on the paper instead of your pencil.

00:16:13.000 Which I don't know how big of a difference.

00:16:14.000 Then there's you could have an AI sign things for you at your command.

00:16:18.000 And it's like, well, if you're having your pen do the signing for you at your command, like there's a line about is it a tool that you're using to have it signed?

00:16:25.000 But I think the argument, like you said earlier, is more about what's he aware that the signatures were going forward?

00:16:30.000 Yeah.

00:16:30.000 Yes.

00:16:31.000 And so I think that, you know, you would need to be the precedent that you want to avoid is a limit on pardon power as a result of this, you know, pushing this issue.

00:16:41.000 But if you are able to make it clear that the president has to be aware of the pardons that he's signing, I think that that is, you know, I think as long as they're careful on that front, I think you're okay if you use, you know, the Fauci issue as a way to go after on the pardon front.

00:16:55.000 To the credit of like, should we do something or should we encourage something like to be the first to do it and then Democrats are going to come back and do it again?

00:17:02.000 It's like we're already seeing the radicalism.

00:17:05.000 So, in the federal government, there's all like there's a lot of talk and not a lot of show yet because they don't have that power yet.

00:17:10.000 But in blue states, you're seeing the absolute most insane thing.

00:17:13.000 Like California, we'll get into Virginia is probably the best example of this.

00:17:16.000 When they, when the Supreme Court ruled against them, what was their first reaction?

00:17:20.000 We're going to mandate that every person over 50 has to retire from the court and appoint new judges. 0.75

00:17:25.000 This is like the first thing they want to do. 0.59

00:17:26.000 The, the, What they actually like to do over 50, too.

00:17:30.000 Like, that was ridiculous, that's a really specific age. 0.98

00:17:33.000 It was like 54, it was something dumb like this. 0.98

00:17:36.000 They just wanted to get rid of the entire court, and there was like some that were giving pushback.

00:17:40.000 But for the most part, when you look at blue states, they're just so radical that they are now like California is the model, gets exported to other states, and then this becomes like the federal mandate for Democrats and the Fed.

00:17:50.000 So, I wouldn't be surprised if they do use you know, God forbid, 2828 goes bad, they use every single lever they have.

00:17:57.000 Oh, yeah, and it doesn't matter anyway.

00:17:59.000 You know, I'm probably a bit more bullish on just do it anyway.

00:17:59.000 So, yeah.

00:18:03.000 Yeah.

00:18:03.000 I mean, that's something we've talked about a lot around here.

00:18:06.000 It's kind of baked into the cake that when Democrats get back into power, they're going to do this.

00:18:12.000 That was a conversation that was brought up a lot when they were talking about getting rid of the filibuster.

00:18:17.000 It's like, oh, should we get rid of the filibuster?

00:18:19.000 And it's like, well, you know, if we do it, then what are the Democrats going to do?

00:18:22.000 It's like, the Democrats are going to get rid of the filibuster the instant they need to.

00:18:25.000 Absolutely.

00:18:26.000 There's no question.

00:18:27.000 Like, Curtis Yarvin has a great quote.

00:18:32.000 Republicans look at power like a wine snob looks at power, and Democrats look at power like an alcoholic looks at power.

00:18:39.000 And it's a great quote because it really is demonstrative of the way that Democrats and Republicans act.

00:18:45.000 The Republicans, you know, the base wants all these things, and there's so many people that watch the show and that call in and stuff.

00:18:50.000 They're like, oh, you know, Donald Trump hasn't done this, and Donald Trump hasn't done that.

00:18:55.000 I'm turning my back on him, blah, blah, blah.

00:18:56.000 And it's like, honestly, if you look at the things that Donald Trump actually has done, when you think of the power that the president actually has, he's been incredibly successful.

00:19:06.000 Right, whether or not he's done all the things that you wanted him to do is not the question here.

00:19:11.000 It's how much power does the president actually have, and he's done a lot of things through executive order.

00:19:16.000 He closed the border, which is the biggest thing, in my opinion.

00:19:19.000 And it looks like they're making moves to really push to get you know to deport more people and stuff.

00:19:27.000 I think he's doing it in a fairly smart way because if he had if you constantly had ice raids like we had in Minnesota over the winter, you'd constantly have protests and you'd have all this pushback.

00:19:37.000 And you would really change the opinion of the voter.

00:19:40.000 Like, people don't have a strong stomach.

00:19:41.000 They don't want to see that kind of stuff. 0.94

00:19:43.000 But if you can manage to do things that change the law, make it harder for people to stay here, stuff like that, go after business owners that actually employ illegals, which there's some that's happened. 0.94

00:19:54.000 I don't think it needs a lot.

00:19:55.000 I think you only need to go after a few people, and business owners will be like, that's not going to happen to me.

00:19:59.000 We'll get these guys out of here.

00:20:01.000 I think that that actually will be pretty functional.

00:20:04.000 So, Donald Trump has been pretty successful.

00:20:07.000 But when the Republicans, In Congress, or the Republicans that don't like Donald Trump are presented with something like the Save Act.

00:20:14.000 They're like, whoa, I don't know.

00:20:17.000 That's kind of a big deal. 0.76

00:20:18.000 And the states are supposed to be able to do their elections however they want.

00:20:22.000 That's not what the Republican base wants.

00:20:24.000 That's not what conservative Americans want.

00:20:28.000 Whereas when you get the Democrats, they're just like, do whatever.

00:20:32.000 They're like, I don't care.

00:20:33.000 They'll literally create things out of a whole cloth.

00:20:37.000 They'll accuse people of things that are totally.

00:20:40.000 Douglas Mackey comes to mind, right?

00:20:42.000 They put him in jail.

00:20:43.000 Over memes because, oh, look, he said he made a joke.

00:20:46.000 I mean, he put this meme up and he was trying to disenfranchise people and et cetera, et cetera.

00:20:51.000 And they'll sit there and they'll say that with a straight face and they'll act like they take it seriously when really all they're trying to do is punish a guy for mocking Hillary Clinton and, you know, making jokes about Hillary Clinton.

00:21:02.000 The thing he did that stepped over the line legally was he put a phone number on the meme.

00:21:07.000 He was like, if you want to vote for Hillary Clinton, call this number, which is technically illegal.

00:21:11.000 You're misleading people because they thought they were actually getting their vote through.

00:21:14.000 Yeah, but the point that I'm making is nobody that saw that actually thought it was real.

00:21:20.000 Everybody realized that it was just a meme.

00:21:22.000 And, but that's why I said Democrats act like it's serious.

00:21:26.000 They will look you straight in the face and say, no, this is real.

00:21:28.000 This is actually serious.

00:21:29.000 Look, this is what he did.

00:21:31.000 And this has got to stop.

00:21:32.000 And this is why he's got to go to jail.

00:21:33.000 And we got to prevent this.

00:21:34.000 Even though it was blatantly obvious to anyone that saw those memes that they weren't real.

00:21:40.000 Yeah, it's kind of ironic that, because I'm sitting here looking up, like, has there ever been an instance of a presidential pardon being overturned?

00:21:46.000 And I'm looking at these, like, you know, no, there's never been a clear, but like, we've seen instances of stuff that has never happened ever before done by the Democrats.

00:21:56.000 Over the last six years.

00:21:56.000 Yeah.

00:21:59.000 Republicans, too, they bought 10% of Intel.

00:22:02.000 I've never seen the government buy 10% of a private company.

00:22:04.000 The government literally dumped a boatload of money into Ford and a GM in 2008.

00:22:09.000 Did they buy it?

00:22:10.000 They just bailed them out.

00:22:11.000 They didn't get a percentage of it.

00:22:12.000 It's the same thing.

00:22:13.000 They bought it.

00:22:15.000 They put money in.

00:22:16.000 It's the same thing if you're purchasing stock, especially seeing as if the United States purchases stock of Intel and the stock goes up, the government actually makes money.

00:22:24.000 They didn't take a controlling interest.

00:22:26.000 I know that's the argument for it, but it doesn't.

00:22:28.000 It's the government buying private companies.

00:22:30.000 It's not, but they didn't buy the whole company.

00:22:32.000 They bought stock.

00:22:33.000 They bought an interest in it.

00:22:34.000 They didn't buy, the government bought stocks.

00:22:37.000 They didn't purchase the company or nationalize it.

00:22:40.000 I'm just looking up if they bought Fannie Mae in the 2008 bailout.

00:22:43.000 I just don't know if they took over.

00:22:43.000 I know they bailed them out.

00:22:45.000 They bought Fannie Mae.

00:22:47.000 There is plenty of precedent of the government either taking control of companies or.

00:22:51.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:22:52.000 They took over the Fannie Mae.

00:22:54.000 I think that's what banks and bonds, like FHA loans, it's all done through Fannie Mae, I believe.

00:22:58.000 Yeah.

00:23:00.000 I wanted to just reiterate your point about how you argue the Democrat, I think you said, who was it, Curtis Yarvin, that the Democrats will treat it like power, like an alcoholic treats alcohol, whereas the Republicans will treat it like a wine stop.

00:23:13.000 Because I can see the Republicans consolidating all these potential explosive power things, and then they're like, let's do it.

00:23:19.000 And they're like, no, that's a 75 year old vintage.

00:23:21.000 We're not going to touch it.

00:23:22.000 Where's the Democrats going?

00:23:23.000 And they're like, drink it, drink, take that, change that, change that.

00:23:27.000 So the Republicans are buying stock in things.

00:23:29.000 They're creating a technocracy behind the scenes.

00:23:31.000 They're getting all their bottles aligned and like, If an evil guy comes in, dear God, they have the Patriot Act and the NDAA.

00:23:37.000 But the Democrats have the Patriot Act and the NDAA too, if they're in the government.

00:23:42.000 And the concern is who would misuse it?

00:23:44.000 I mean, probably the alcoholic would tend towards misusing your array of alcohol.

00:23:50.000 You know, all you have to do to see kind of the extent that the Democrats will go last time or will go next time based on what they've done before is if you look through the Arctic Frost documents, it's one of the most incredible things.

00:24:04.000 So, all of these documents, you know, the prosecutions against all of like the conservative organizations in DC, hundreds of subpoenas.

00:24:11.000 They were monitoring bank accounts.

00:24:13.000 They had wiretaps.

00:24:14.000 They had, you know, confidential informants.

00:24:17.000 And you can go read those confidential, you know, informant email correspondence.

00:24:23.000 They have the names blocked out so you don't know who it is, but you see all of it.

00:24:26.000 A friend of mine runs, he's CEO of the Conservative Partnership Institute.

00:24:31.000 It's like Jim DeMint, Mark Meadows organization.

00:24:34.000 He, um, Is mentioned many times in Arctic Frost.

00:24:37.000 They were investigating CPI.

00:24:40.000 They never found anything, but the confidential informant documents are so crazy, accusing him of treason, trying to say that he's like recruiting a militia to overthrow the government.

00:24:53.000 Like, this is Looney Tunes stuff.

00:24:55.000 Like, he does trainings on Senate procedure, is like what his organization does.

00:24:59.000 And they're like accusing him of this.

00:25:01.000 The point being, you can look at what they've done before.

00:25:04.000 They will twist and turn and use every single and lie overtly.

00:25:10.000 You know, if you look through all of these, if you know the people involved, you know every single aspect of it is a lie.

00:25:17.000 And it's sloppy.

00:25:18.000 So, like, it's very clear what they'll do next time.

00:25:21.000 I think that our side just has to move forward.

00:25:23.000 And I think, you know, to his credit, that's exactly what President Trump's doing.

00:25:26.000 Feels like, like you were saying, someone was saying how radicalized the Democratic Party seems to have become.

00:25:31.000 But it seems like the government in general has become, like, the internet.

00:25:36.000 I know it's been a long time.

00:25:37.000 We've been boiling in it.

00:25:38.000 So it's tough to feel the temperature.

00:25:40.000 But, like, the whole system has become.

00:25:42.000 Hyper radical, not maybe not hyper radicalized, but intensely radicalized the way things the way I mean, the Fourth Amendment's gone like search spying, these things are all spying on us right now fervently, like constantly.

00:25:56.000 And it's a technocratic, I mean, a coup essentially of our rights.

00:26:00.000 I don't, I mean, this is part of the reason why like the domestic focus matters so much because people are only going to go more crazy the worse things are here.

00:26:09.000 Like, I think a Federal Reserve just put out a report that under Biden, like 30% of all increases of mortgage prices were because of illegal immigration.

00:26:17.000 So, we have essentially priced out all of the young Americans out of homes.

00:26:21.000 Young Americans are the ones that are radicalized, too.

00:26:23.000 It's not the boomers.

00:26:24.000 The boomers are chill. 0.99

00:26:25.000 They have the 13 foot ceilings. 0.98

00:26:26.000 They have their boats and their RVs.

00:26:27.000 They're happy.

00:26:28.000 But the young Americans are the ones going crazy because they are poor. 0.98

00:26:32.000 They're on Klarna and affirm. 0.55

00:26:34.000 They're affirming Walmart purchases.

00:26:36.000 People are in a much, much worse economic situation than their parents were, their grandparents were.

00:26:41.000 And this is only them fueling even worse and more radical politics.

00:26:45.000 Obviously, the internet and mass communication make this worse.

00:26:48.000 But If things don't improve domestically for young people, then you're going to continue seeing this sort of type of violence.

00:26:54.000 I think the reason why we see it on the left so much more than the right is the broader culture of like personal responsibility.

00:27:01.000 You need to go work, go get a job, try and be productive.

00:27:04.000 So then all the people on the right, they're like actually trying to do it.

00:27:06.000 And then on the left, you have these people that go, they're overeducated, underemployed.

00:27:10.000 They went, they got their $80,000 degree from God knows where and who knows what.

00:27:14.000 They can't get a job and then they freak out.

00:27:16.000 And when you go to college, you're taught nothing but Marxist power dynamics.

00:27:21.000 You're taught entirely that.

00:27:22.000 You know, the reason that our society is so terrible now is because the billionaires.

00:27:28.000 I saw, I think it was Asmongold posted this, and other people have actually made it in a, made the argument in a much more, much less succinct manner.

00:27:39.000 But Asmongold was saying, you know, you're not oppressed by the top 2%, you're oppressed by the bottom 2%, right?

00:27:45.000 Like the people that are going to steal your car, the people that are going to smash your windows, the people that are going to act out, They're the people that have nothing to lose, right?

00:27:55.000 The people that are billionaires, the people that are millionaires, the wealthy people in society, they're the people that possibly could give you a job, right?

00:28:03.000 Like you go and you fill out 100 applications or 200 applications. 0.99

00:28:06.000 It's a pain in the ass, I understand. 0.98

00:28:07.000 But that 201st application where you get a job, the guy that owns the business, he's not a vagrant, right? 0.99

00:28:13.000 He's not a guy that's out rioting and throwing Molotov cocktails at Teslas because he's mad at Elon Musk.

00:28:20.000 He's not a guy that's going to commit a strong arm robbery.

00:28:24.000 He's not a guy.

00:28:25.000 That's going to be in the point.

00:28:27.000 The way I made the point was like, Elon Musk isn't going to be in line in front of me at Walmart losing his mind because he can't put Zins on an EBT card, right?

00:28:37.000 Like, that's the kind of stuff that affects your day to day life, right?

00:28:40.000 For your average person.

00:28:42.000 As much as they want to blame the rich, right?

00:28:44.000 Blame the people that have money, blame Elon Musk for being a trillionaire, blame Jeff Bezos, et cetera.

00:28:50.000 All of those people have materially improved most Americans' lives.

00:28:56.000 Everybody loves the fact that you can get stuff delivered by drone from Amazon in a lot of places, right?

00:29:01.000 Like, you can get same-if you live in most suburbs of big cities, you can get same-day delivery from Amazon.

00:29:09.000 That, the idea.

00:29:10.000 Like that was completely.

00:29:12.000 I'm not that old, but I'm an old guy.

00:29:13.000 And when I was a kid, the idea of getting same day delivery, everything that I ordered when I was a kid, six to eight weeks, you know, six to eight weeks.

00:29:20.000 It'll be there in six to eight weeks.

00:29:21.000 Now it's like if it's not there in two days, you're like, oh, screw this, you know?

00:29:27.000 And so it's true that like the wealthy people in the world actually don't make your lives worse.

00:29:35.000 Well, that I.

00:29:37.000 The lowest common denominator that are most likely to make your life worse, they're the people that if you get into a car accident, they don't have insurance.

00:29:45.000 You know, they're the people that are going and filling up the emergency rooms because they don't have health insurance.

00:29:52.000 Now, maybe it's not their fault, right?

00:29:54.000 Maybe it's not the people, maybe they fell in harmed times and stuff, but that doesn't change the fact that you interact with people that are, when you're interacting on a day to day basis, you're more likely to have someone in the bottom two, three, 4% of the country that materially impacts your life than you are to bump into some rich guy that makes your life worse.

00:30:16.000 I disagree in that I think it's both extremes are oppressing what's happening to most people.

00:30:21.000 What did Elon Musk do to you?

00:30:23.000 Well, it's more about the people that run the banks that are commanding compound interest because our debt, we borrow money from the Federal Reserve, our government does, and then we have to pay it back with interest that doesn't exist.

00:30:34.000 So we're constantly in this Ponzi scheme of stress, of falling behind the economic order, and we're constantly being baited and kind of being controlled by the banking establishment.

00:30:45.000 You don't have to go into debt.

00:30:46.000 I mean, you probably have to go into debt to get a house.

00:30:49.000 But if you don't get a house, you don't have to use credit cards.

00:30:52.000 You don't have to go into debt to these bankers that you're worried about.

00:30:56.000 The government, to create money, literally goes into debt from the Federal Reserve.

00:31:01.000 They take a promissory note from the Federal Reserve in order to create a dollar, promising that they're going to pay the reserve back with interest.

00:31:07.000 Is it your argument that a gold standard or an actual physical precious metal monetary system would be better?

00:31:17.000 And if so, why?

00:31:17.000 It would be less corrupted in this way.

00:31:19.000 It would probably have problems of its own because then there'd be a limited supply.

00:31:22.000 Applying some people would literally have zero.

00:31:24.000 Like at this, at least they can print it out and give you your 200 bucks a week, you know, universal basic income and try and slow down the explosive.

00:31:32.000 Then this is just the least bad system.

00:31:35.000 Well, what I would say to your point, because, you know, you can look at what's happened since we went off the gold standard.

00:31:41.000 What has happened is everything in our economy has become financialized to an extent that has never existed before in history.

00:31:50.000 So, you know, There's a lot of speculation that the reason that all of this financialization of the economy, again, the top industry in America is finance.

00:32:05.000 We used to be a manufacturing economy.

00:32:07.000 We used to have, now it's finance and real estate.

00:32:11.000 And part of the reason, one of the big drivers of that was the financialization of the economy after we went off the gold.

00:32:18.000 Our smartest people in America all go into finance.

00:32:21.000 That's not necessarily a natural thing, that is a cause and consequence.

00:32:26.000 Of us just making a decision to move to fiat currency.

00:32:30.000 So there's a lot of, there's probably, you know, I'm not saying that we need to go back to a gold standard.

00:32:35.000 I think there's probably other financial solutions at this point.

00:32:38.000 But the fact that our economy is so financialized is a decision that policymakers made, is not necessarily a natural state, natural order of things.

00:32:47.000 This is where I start to align or at least understand the communist mentality of like seizing property from the wealthy.

00:32:55.000 Because if we, there's like in to the right, the extreme right is corporatocracy, where the corporations own all the property.

00:33:02.000 And you're basically, if you say the wrong words, they'll take away your house, they'll take away, then to the, The far left is nobody owns any property.

00:33:09.000 We all own it together collectively, which you know how that fails into vanguardism, small groups of people.

00:33:14.000 So, like, if BlackRock buys up 80% of the houses, of course the people have a right to overthrow that system and take their housing, take their land back.

00:33:22.000 Like, good God, it's a human right. 0.96

00:33:24.000 But I mean, we were just talking about how the housing market is actually the driver of the prices is illegal immigrants. 0.99

00:33:35.000 You know, the reason that the prices have gone up. 0.98

00:33:39.000 Up so much is because of how many illegal immigrants are in the US. 1.00

00:33:42.000 Well, it's not just that.

00:33:43.000 It's also, I think it might have been the Realtors Association or it was a National Home Builders Association.

00:33:48.000 They've been doing these studies on the impact of regulation on building homes.

00:33:52.000 And now, I think the last one they did that I saw was like 2021, $100,000 in 2021 of the price of a new build home was only for regulatory compliance.

00:34:04.000 So we've made it super, super difficult to build a house, we've made it super expensive.

00:34:09.000 Regulation speaking.

00:34:10.000 And then we imported like 20 million people and then we gave them free FHA loans and 0% down payments at like super low COVID rates. 0.96

00:34:18.000 So we've totally destroyed the housing market by essentially just giving it to like a bunch of people that just walked up the southern border. 0.71

00:34:24.000 I mean, government is the problem in most cases.

00:34:27.000 In what we're talking about, you know, you mentioned BlackRock.

00:34:31.000 Why is BlackRock such a behemoth?

00:34:34.000 Because every, you know, every retirement system in America places a massive percentage.

00:34:41.000 Of those retirement funds into BlackRock.

00:34:45.000 It is a government fueled monopoly.

00:34:48.000 And there's been federal courts now that have called BlackRock a monopolistic actor.

00:34:54.000 And so I think that what you're saying, I'm very sympathetic to the view that we have all of these problems with these monopolistic actors.

00:35:06.000 Every single monopoly in history has been a creation of government intervention.

00:35:12.000 You know, so you can go to BlackRock and look where, you know, they've got 10 trillion in assets.

00:35:17.000 Where do they get those 10 trillion assets?

00:35:19.000 It's pension funds, you know.

00:35:20.000 So both red, you know, Republican and Democrat states have something like, you know, it's two or three trillion dollars invested in BlackRock, you know.

00:35:29.000 So foreign governments too, because it's a global, you know, monopoly.

00:35:32.000 But the point being, there are solutions to this.

00:35:37.000 And the solution in this particular case, I'm not like a libertarian, but in the solution in this case is, you know, whether it's regulation or artificial, You know, migration that is facilitated and encouraged by government.

00:35:50.000 Like, we've got to solve these problems.

00:35:53.000 And in most of the cases, the root causes of all of this have been government interventions into the marketplace that have absolutely wrecked life for the average American.

00:36:06.000 Well, what then, like, a solution would that be just people just decide we're going to build houses here and then the government will try and stop them and be like, what are you doing to me?

00:36:16.000 Well, there's regulations.

00:36:17.000 That's the way regulation works.

00:36:18.000 It'll be like, I want to build a house, and the government says, Well, you have to have these permits.

00:36:22.000 And then to get the permits, you have to get, you know, you have to have inspections or you have to do surveys.

00:36:27.000 You have to do studies on the impact that it's going to have on the environment.

00:36:30.000 You have to do all sorts of things.

00:36:32.000 And that's all from regulation.

00:36:35.000 Yeah, even like left wing projects.

00:36:36.000 So, I think the biggest one was under Biden, might have been like Build Back Better.

00:36:40.000 It was like a huge infrastructure project.

00:36:43.000 Ezra Klein, or yeah, I think it was Ezra Klein, talked about this.

00:36:46.000 And he sort of went viral where he went over all of these projects that were supposed to be funded by the federal government through this trillion dollar spending act.

00:36:53.000 Turns out almost none of these have been built.

00:36:55.000 And the reason why is because this one was for the 5G across all of America.

00:37:00.000 So, they wanted every single square inch of America to have internet connection.

00:37:03.000 And for you to put down like a cell tower for internet connection anywhere in America, you had to go through a 14 step process of like applications and reviews with the government.

00:37:13.000 And it turns out none of this got built.

00:37:15.000 And this is sort of the process for just about everything.

00:37:18.000 Like the best one of my favorite examples is the wildfires.

00:37:22.000 So when we see these massive wildfires happen across the country, you think, well, why didn't we like do a prescribed burn and do the normal thing that we do for forest mitigation, for fire management?

00:37:32.000 And the reason why is because to pass NEPA clearance, it takes seven years.

00:37:36.000 It takes the average seven years.

00:37:38.000 So, a forest management guy goes into a forest, sees a fuel load.

00:37:41.000 There's all sorts of stuff on the ground. 0.86

00:37:42.000 There's like pine cones and all sorts of crap.

00:37:44.000 And he's like, okay, we need to do a burn because this is going to build up.

00:37:47.000 It's going to tank the entire forest.

00:37:48.000 So, he goes and he writes a thing, sends it to the federal government, and it takes seven years for them to get back and eventually say, okay, fine, you can burn.

00:37:55.000 And by that point, the fire's already happened.

00:37:56.000 It's burned down the past.

00:37:57.000 Just one lightning strike in a long time.

00:37:59.000 Why does it take so long?

00:38:00.000 Because that's what the government does.

00:38:02.000 NEPA is a National Environmental Protection Act.

00:38:02.000 What's NEPA?

00:38:04.000 Yeah.

00:38:05.000 This is passed under Nixon.

00:38:08.000 Yeah, 1970.

00:38:09.000 Who's in the country?

00:38:10.000 No, he was a patriot, but Congress at the time, super Democrat, they went through and passed.

00:38:16.000 And yeah, I mean, so you can go through pretty much every federal project has NEPA review problems.

00:38:21.000 It makes these things, I mean, you know, there's other reasons, corruption wise, why the bridge in Baltimore hasn't been rebuilt in five years, haven't even like really broken ground on it yet.

00:38:33.000 I mean, it's NEPA reviews are a huge portion of it.

00:38:36.000 So any federal project that takes federal money at all is part of NEPA.

00:38:40.000 Trump is in process.

00:38:42.000 I think he's gotten part of that.

00:38:45.000 Dialed back, but I mean, you know, there's so much more he's got to do.

00:38:49.000 He's working on it.

00:38:50.000 The government, like every regulation that the government has, it's also one small chunk of whatever the funding money is that gets taken away.

00:39:01.000 So if you get a trillion dollars to do a big thing, right, part of the reason why it doesn't ever, and it actually, a lot of projects don't get done is because every organization that gets some kind of say in it gets their cut of the money.

00:39:16.000 So that way, they can do the paperwork that's necessary.

00:39:19.000 So they can say, Well, we're doing this, we're doing that.

00:39:21.000 It's not like these organizations, they don't have people that are there volunteering.

00:39:26.000 They all go ahead and they get their cut of the money that's being spent.

00:39:30.000 That's part of the reason why California has never gotten their high speed rail built.

00:39:36.000 I think they've made 150 feet of it or something like that.

00:39:39.000 And they've spent like 58 or whatever billion dollars, or maybe it's 85.

00:39:43.000 But they spent billions and billions and billions of dollars.

00:39:46.000 Trying to make high speed rail, and they've built something like 150 or 200 feet of it because all of the funding that it goes to actually build the thing gets eaten up by the EPA or by all of the regulation stuff.

00:40:02.000 So, I imagine regulations are in place to prevent corruption so that you don't.

00:40:06.000 No, no, no, no.

00:40:07.000 Not when it comes to environmental stuff.

00:40:08.000 It's not to prevent corruption, it's to prevent.

00:40:11.000 Environmental corruption, all sorts of forms of corruption.

00:40:13.000 Like, you don't want to build a house that then pours oil into the river, which is the government.

00:40:17.000 Okay, so you're.

00:40:19.000 I think you're changing the meaning of corruption in this context.

00:40:22.000 Aspects of environmental corruption, political corruption, economic corruption, you know, there's a lot of corruption.

00:40:27.000 But they're different kinds of corruption.

00:40:29.000 They're trying to prevent destruction of different types.

00:40:32.000 But then what's happening is it is a corrupted system because it is taking so long to try and prevent the errors.

00:40:38.000 It has become an error, is what it feels like.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:43.000 What's the last big, massive, patriotic American infrastructure project you can think of that's happened in the last 30 years?

00:40:48.000 And you really can't.

00:40:49.000 You think of Hoover Dam, Golden Gate Bridge, the interstate highways, all these massive projects were pre the 1970s.

00:40:56.000 And like Teal wrote about this, why everything sort of stopped in the 70s.

00:40:59.000 Big reason why is because our environmental litigation.

00:41:03.000 Has made this almost impossible.

00:41:05.000 And the other secondary consequence of all of these laws is that it opened up for a proliferation of like NGO groups to come in and endlessly sue every single project to prevent anything from getting done.

00:41:18.000 This has been, this is the case for literally everything.

00:41:20.000 This was the Trans Pacific Partnership.

00:41:21.000 I don't know if you guys were following it in 2012.

00:41:24.000 Obama was going to sign us onto it.

00:41:25.000 And there's this clause in it called the Investor State Dispute Settlement Clause, where an investor is like a Malaysian oil company.

00:41:31.000 It's like this globalization Trans Pacific Partnership.

00:41:35.000 So if a Malaysian company, the investor, Had a dispute with a state, say the United States, for they called discrimination.

00:41:41.000 You're not buying our oil, so we're going to.

00:41:43.000 The investor could then sue the state.

00:41:47.000 The corporation could sue America, and then the taxpayers would have had to pay them back.

00:41:51.000 We'd have to pay the corporation with tax money.

00:41:54.000 And that's why I voted for Trump.

00:41:56.000 Trump, that's why I was going to vote for Bernie Sanders.

00:41:58.000 He spoke against it.

00:42:00.000 And why inevitably I vote for Trump.

00:42:02.000 Day three, he got in 2016, he shot down that.

00:42:05.000 I don't know why I brought up that particular policy.

00:42:08.000 Because you wanted to go to foreign policy.

00:42:08.000 I do.

00:42:09.000 And we're going to jump to this story from the BBC.

00:42:13.000 US Iran talks postponed as Israel launches a deadly strike in Lebanon.

00:42:17.000 A new round of direct talks between the US and Iran have been postponed after Vice President JD Vance delayed a planned trip to Switzerland.

00:42:24.000 The White House announced late on Thursday that Vance would not be traveling to the talks and the logistics had not been simple or predictable.

00:42:30.000 It comes a day after the US dropped its naval blockade of Iran and after the two countries signed a deal aimed at ending the conflict.

00:42:36.000 While the deal also said fighting should end in Lebanon, The country's health ministry reported Israeli strikes had killed at least 47 people overnight and into Friday.

00:42:46.000 Israel's military said it had targeted the Iran backed group Hezbollah and that four of its own soldiers had been killed.

00:42:52.000 Hours before the White House issued its statement, Hezbollah linked Lebanese media reported that the talks had been suspended due to ongoing Israeli strikes.

00:43:01.000 Is Israel trying to derail the peace process?

00:43:06.000 I think Israel has a strong national interest.

00:43:10.000 And I think that their interest in this case is not the same as our interest.

00:43:15.000 I think that President Trump had, you know, I think he went into this war.

00:43:20.000 I think that he thought that there was going to be the possibility of a quick, you know, of a quick resolution to it.

00:43:29.000 That didn't happen.

00:43:30.000 And I think he spent the last two months trying to find an exit ramp.

00:43:33.000 I think he found what he thought was acceptable, took the best deal that he could get to be able to avoid, you know, a global cataclysmic economic collapse. 0.67

00:43:44.000 And I think Israel has just, in this particular case, a different set of priorities. 0.82

00:43:48.000 And like, that's okay.

00:43:50.000 It's okay that foreign countries have different priorities than us.

00:43:54.000 My problem, and who I blame for all of this, are the American neocons who are obsessed with Iran.

00:44:05.000 They've been obsessed with Iran for decades.

00:44:07.000 This has been on their list to do. 0.98

00:44:09.000 And they are just hell bent on keeping us in this war.

00:44:12.000 So I don't blame Israel, I blame the neocons.

00:44:15.000 What do you got?

00:44:16.000 Oh, man.

00:44:17.000 I, yeah.

00:44:20.000 I, I, I think it's so unacceptable. 0.99

00:44:23.000 It just sucks.

00:44:23.000 I mean, there's already the concern of like the global oil reserves going out.

00:44:26.000 And there's obviously a case to be made that the war for us is like, you know, the positioning with Venezuela and Cuba and that we're going to become the global oil exporter.

00:44:35.000 So it's good for the American economy and like us geopolitically.

00:44:38.000 It's less bad for the US than anyone else.

00:44:40.000 Yeah.

00:44:40.000 Like, and I think marketedly, it's like obviously less bad because our biggest concern is like, oh no, our gas is going to buy a few dollars for a few months.

00:44:47.000 Like, that's like sort of like the biggest consequence for us for the most part.

00:44:51.000 But the notion to like, Trying to make sure you don't find peace is really unfortunate. 0.98

00:44:58.000 I mean, it sucks.

00:45:00.000 It seems like this is what the Lakud party has wanted since they wanted a two party solution in the early 2000s. 0.97

00:45:07.000 And then they were basically like, no, we don't want a two party solution.

00:45:10.000 We want to make sure that we can conquer all the territory.

00:45:13.000 So put a bunch of, you know, just seed the area with problems so that we have something to destroy and then we can use that as an excuse to take it over. 0.95

00:45:23.000 And like, if I was talking about the Greater Israel Project, I'm not sure. 0.53

00:45:26.000 I don't know.

00:45:26.000 Maybe.

00:45:27.000 Because I don't, because I mean, I understand what you're laying out, but I don't think that, I think the reason I don't agree with it is because, you know, Israel hasn't significantly expanded its borders, right?

00:45:39.000 Like since the Seven Day War.

00:45:41.000 They gave the Sinai back to Egypt.

00:45:43.000 They haven't, they moved, I think they moved into Lebanon a little bit, but that's partially in the Golan Heights, but that's partially strategic, right?

00:45:50.000 The Golan Heights basically is a raised area over Tel Aviv, is it?

00:45:55.000 No, it's over, it's Haifa in the north.

00:45:57.000 Yeah.

00:45:57.000 And so it's really like they want the Golan Heights so that way they're not, You know, they don't have raised positions to shoot down at an Israeli city.

00:46:06.000 But they haven't really done, like, there's a lot of people that talk about the Greater Israel Project, and I don't see Israel, you know, doing, making moves to expand their territory. 0.54

00:46:16.000 You know, the Gazan, I mean, the slaughter of those people and the corralling, and that's, it's pretty, it seems like that's the plan.

00:46:27.000 I don't know.

00:46:28.000 I don't think the Gaza's already, like, Gaza's already kind of part of Israel, and like, They left Gaza in like 2005 and they kept them corralled. 0.75

00:46:38.000 But like, Gaza is a complicated situation because Egypt does not want the Palestinians, neither does Jordan, and neither does Jordan, and neither does Israel.

00:46:48.000 So they've sort of been stuck. 0.50

00:46:49.000 And the reason why is because the Palestinians have had all these sort of like various revolutionary movements in like the past, I don't know, like 40 years that like toppled certain princes.

00:46:58.000 I think there was an assassination attempt. 0.95

00:46:59.000 There's a lot of really bad blood, so none of them really want any of them.

00:47:02.000 So they've kind of all just said, No, you stay here.

00:47:05.000 And then obviously October 7th happened, so then the reaction to that. 0.92

00:47:08.000 I think the biggest probably expansion that's always been very controversial is the West Bank situation with like all of the suburb developments where they just like move Israelis in. 0.55

00:47:17.000 But I mean, the greater Israel thing is more of like the American sort of early 2000s projects in the Middle East where like we took out Gaddafi and Saddam, and then now like Syria and like Assad's out like in hiding or whatever.

00:47:32.000 And there was this idea that after we sort of topple these nations, like Israel will expand. 0.71

00:47:36.000 That's like sort of the theory. 0.92

00:47:38.000 I think there's other explanations that are a lot more plausible and reasonable.

00:47:42.000 When it comes to Iran, there's obviously an existential issue of Iran getting a nuclear weapon.

00:47:47.000 Israel has supposedly a nuclear weapon. 0.54

00:47:51.000 So if they can confirm. 0.74

00:47:53.000 They can neither confirm nor deny.

00:47:54.000 But we can confirm if you come after us and we have an existential threat, we will use a nuclear weapon. 0.72

00:48:00.000 So there's a very valid argument.

00:48:02.000 And the war has been great for BB because I think his approval ratings went up.

00:48:05.000 He sort of likes this for him politically.

00:48:08.000 And peace maybe looks bad or worse politically for him.

00:48:11.000 But.

00:48:12.000 Even then, like, if there's a peaceful solution for the sake of everybody, it's preferable that a peaceful solution is met rather than like total annihilation, like between the two countries.

00:48:21.000 What was you know, Netanyahu?

00:48:23.000 He was like being investigated by their judiciary right before October 7th.

00:48:26.000 And then every I mean, still is.

00:48:28.000 I mean, so like Israel has this massive problem with their judicial system that a lot of countries around the world have where the judiciary is incredibly far left.

00:48:39.000 And they've been investigating him.

00:48:41.000 My understanding is he still has to go into like testimony, judicial process hearings like two days a week, like even now.

00:48:51.000 So like he is like, you know, absolutely swamped by the Israeli judicial system.

00:48:56.000 That has been a massive problem for a very long time.

00:48:59.000 So, yeah, I mean, you know, I think there's a legitimate claim that, you know, that judicial system has been very politicized against him.

00:49:07.000 Now, before we get into like the ins and outs of politics inside Israel, I want to point to this piece here from Newsweek.

00:49:15.000 Trump blasted a newspaper owned by top donor.

00:49:18.000 You betrayed us.

00:49:19.000 And this goes to the question of how Bibi is kind of, you know, looks at the war and wants to see it going on. 0.66

00:49:28.000 A newspaper owned by a billionaire Republican mega donor has published a blistering opinion piece accusing President Donald Trump of betraying Israel over his deal with Iran to end the war. 0.54

00:49:37.000 The critical op ed was published by Israel Haom, the Israeli newspaper owned by Miriam Adelson, one of Trump's biggest financial backers and one of the most influential pro Israel donors in Republican politics.

00:49:49.000 Adelson, a dual U.S. Israeli citizen with an estimated fortune of tens of billions of dollars, has been a major force in shaping conservative support for Israel and has had close ties to Trump for years.

00:50:01.000 In the column, Israel Hailmans journalist Danny Zakin praised Trump's past support for Israel, but said the president has made a colossal mistake by signing what he calls a surrender agreement with Tehran.

00:50:12.000 In a piece headline, you could have been the greatest president of all, but you failed.

00:50:16.000 Zakin wrote that Trump had missed an opportunity to be remembered among America's greatest presidents and warned the deal could damage U.S. interests and Israel's security. 0.98

00:50:26.000 I think that's crap, personally. 0.97

00:50:30.000 Like the idea that. 0.99

00:50:33.000 That doing something that benefits Israel primarily, I have my own thoughts about what the situation in Iran is.

00:50:42.000 I personally wrote a piece on my Patreon on the day the strike's initiated.

00:50:47.000 I think that it's mostly about China, or at least a good portion about China. 0.54

00:50:50.000 But this guy's take that an American president that does something that the Israeli hawks like makes him the most memorable or the greatest American president. 0.99

00:51:06.000 That's crap. 1.00

00:51:07.000 That's garbage. 1.00

00:51:08.000 Israel is its own country and they have their own interests, but the United States is not a client state of Israel. 0.99

00:51:14.000 I don't care what anyone says.

00:51:15.000 Like Israel's influential, sure.

00:51:17.000 They've got AIPAC and you've got all this.

00:51:21.000 You've got a lot of people that are Jewish in the administration. 0.82

00:51:23.000 They have a lot of influence, but the U.S. still calls the shot. 0.61

00:51:26.000 So this to me just smells of a tantrum that the United States isn't carrying out strikes when Israel wants them to.

00:51:35.000 Yeah, I think the biggest problem here is, you know, So, first of all, Trump is clearly his own man.

00:51:42.000 He has made decisions that have upset every possible interest.

00:51:47.000 So, the idea that he's doing something on behalf of just one group, I think, is nonsense.

00:51:54.000 So, my biggest problem with all of, you know, is nothing like, I don't know all that much about Mary Adelson herself, other than she gives a lot of money.

00:52:05.000 But the idea to me, and the biggest problem that I have is, you know, the foreign policy establishment, you know, essentially neocons and people sort of associated, they have a permanent vested interest in us toppling Iran.

00:52:22.000 It is part of a project that they have, like, deemed important for decades. 0.65

00:52:27.000 They've been wanting every president to do this.

00:52:30.000 These are domestic actors, you know, it, I mean, these are people who, I mean, You know, these are the folks who got us into the Iraq war, Afghanistan, and kept us there for decades.

00:52:42.000 And the point that I think that, you know, which is where I give so much credit to Trump, he is not interested in that. 0.94

00:52:52.000 You know, he may agree, you know, tactical, you know, we need to, you know, stop Iran, whatever. 0.90

00:52:58.000 The folks who are pushing Trump that are, you know, having temper tantrums on Twitter about Trump signing this deal, they, when you push them, They will not be happy with anything that doesn't keep us in Iran for the next 20 years. 0.98

00:53:17.000 There's no off ramp that they will be acceptable with, that they will find in any way tolerable other than us being there in a ground invasion and staying there for the next 20 years.

00:53:28.000 They just won't.

00:53:29.000 Do you think that the people in question, the neocons in question, do you think that they had a sense that that was going to be the situation?

00:53:36.000 And the reason I ask this argument is because if you look at the buildup, It was clear that there were going to be strikes.

00:53:43.000 But leading up to the war, and another reason why I was thinking about this is because there were so many people on the right, libertarians, anti war people, that are just like, we're going to have boots on the ground forever, et cetera, et cetera.

00:53:43.000 Yeah.

00:53:56.000 They were so afraid that the neocons were going to get what they wanted.

00:53:59.000 And you look at the situation, you're like, this looks nothing like the build up to going into Iraq.

00:54:05.000 They were not moving troops in, they were moving in air assets.

00:54:05.000 Right.

00:54:09.000 It looked like there was going to be big strikes.

00:54:11.000 But if you looked at what was actually happening, look, I've said this before like, no ground infantry goes in unless there is a trailer with a Burger King attached to it right behind them.

00:54:23.000 And that just didn't happen.

00:54:25.000 You know, you didn't see that kind of stuff.

00:54:25.000 Right.

00:54:27.000 You didn't see the buildup of ground forces.

00:54:30.000 You didn't see the logistics buildup.

00:54:31.000 And they were swearing up and down, oh, you wait, it's going to happen.

00:54:34.000 You wait, it's going to happen.

00:54:35.000 You wait.

00:54:35.000 Oh, it'll happen in a couple of weeks.

00:54:37.000 It'll happen, blah, blah, blah.

00:54:37.000 But it's like, I didn't see it.

00:54:40.000 And I'm, it looks like I was right.

00:54:41.000 Like, we're trying to get out of it.

00:54:42.000 Right.

00:54:43.000 There's not going to be.

00:54:44.000 Did the people that were the neocons think that they could push for that kind of military war?

00:54:44.000 A ground war?

00:54:49.000 And the reason that I think that, so I know a lot of these folks in DC, you know, friends with a lot of them, they're actually, you know, great patriots.

00:54:57.000 They love America.

00:54:58.000 I just don't happen to want us to be in forever wars.

00:55:00.000 They may have a different opinion. 0.67

00:55:02.000 The, you know, so the reason that I'm very confident that they thought that they would eventually get Trump into a ground war is because prior to Trump striking, they, you know, they were the folks claiming the Iranians will rise up.

00:55:19.000 The Iranians will rise up. 0.73

00:55:21.000 You know, we can do these strikes. 1.00

00:55:22.000 We can be done real quick.

00:55:23.000 Their goal was simply, and you saw this after like the 13 day war or whatever last year.

00:55:30.000 The minute the strikes started, their goalposts immediately shifted.

00:55:36.000 Their goal, like on a dime, the goal wasn't, okay, we're going to take out their nuclear capacity or we're going to take out their Air Force or their Navy. 0.68

00:55:44.000 Immediately, their standard shifted to we need a different regime in Iran. 0.82

00:55:51.000 And, like, it's like clockwork. 0.74

00:55:53.000 They changed, you know, the goalposts immediately because their strategy was let's just get started and then we'll deal with it from there.

00:56:02.000 Again, I don't even think this is like, this is not me blaming the Israelis.

00:56:05.000 This is the foreign policy establishment in Washington, D.C. that has, you know, it's the same folks in the Ukraine and wanting us to, you know, keep getting involved there.

00:56:14.000 It's just part of their nature.

00:56:15.000 They like these, you know, conflicts and they like them to continue.

00:56:20.000 There's a lot of different reasons for it.

00:56:22.000 But the bottom line was the reason I'm so confident in the fact that they thought they could trap, snare Trump into something long term, into something that included ground forces, was because they immediately shifted the goalposts.

00:56:35.000 And that's when you started to see, like, okay, well, let's go into Karg Island.

00:56:38.000 Let's just take like one island, just real small.

00:56:40.000 We can just take that. 0.51

00:56:41.000 Their goal is to get ground forces there.

00:56:43.000 And Trump, to his, you know, and this is what I love about him, he completely resisted that.

00:56:50.000 And because he saw once you get forces in there, you know, maybe you lose some people.

00:56:54.000 You got to go.

00:56:55.000 And, you know, Trump's going to defend the American, you know, the American military.

00:56:58.000 If we have losses, he's going to make sure that we are there to defend them, to back them up.

00:57:03.000 So their strategy, I think, was to get us in over time rather than, you know, But right now, their temper tantrum about Trump signing this deal is they want to make sure that this keeps going.

00:57:17.000 Yeah, I mean, even the framing of this article, it's like he would have been the greatest president of all.

00:57:22.000 He would have been remembered.

00:57:23.000 It's like he's going to be remembered for his domestic policy.

00:57:25.000 He's going to be remembered because of what he does for the people here, for people who can't afford houses right now, who can't afford cars or whatever.

00:57:33.000 There hasn't been a president remembered positively for a military action since World War II.

00:57:38.000 Exactly.

00:57:39.000 Yeah, like he's gonna be like, even we just saw there's this like new truck company.

00:57:43.000 It was like Rio, they announced like an under $25,000 gas truck, 600 mile tank, all wheel drive, manual automatic available.

00:57:51.000 Like, it's like that is a direct response to the repealing of CAFE regulations and CAFE regulations, which totally destroyed the truck and even like the greater automobile market in the country.

00:58:01.000 Like, if he could get a new car available to young people, which is like what most boomers got to experience, if he could get that available to young people, That's what he's going to be remembered for.

00:58:11.000 He's going to be remembered for that.

00:58:12.000 He's not going to be remembered for some war.

00:58:14.000 He's going to be remembered for making housing affordable, for mass deportations, for making things cheaper, making the way of life in this country better.

00:58:21.000 That's what he's going to be remembered for, not for a three month long campaign in Iran, and especially not for if it goes even worse. 0.52

00:58:30.000 I'd love to see an industrial revolution on the domestic soil.

00:58:33.000 I push graphing like it's my job.

00:58:35.000 I was just going to re industrialize earlier this week out in Detroit.

00:58:39.000 It is incredible what is happening.

00:58:42.000 MLR Atomics, just like.

00:58:44.000 They just hit criticality.

00:58:45.000 Yeah, they just hit criticality yesterday.

00:58:47.000 What does that mean?

00:58:48.000 They're building like portable nuclear reactors that work.

00:58:53.000 What's criticality?

00:58:53.000 Criticality.

00:58:54.000 Critical means that it reaches the point of the reaction.

00:58:57.000 Yeah.

00:58:58.000 They're fusion or fission?

00:58:59.000 Fission.

00:59:00.000 Fission.

00:59:01.000 They haven't figured out.

00:59:02.000 Yeah, these are like the size of this room.

00:59:02.000 Fission reactors.

00:59:05.000 Yeah.

00:59:05.000 Really?

00:59:06.000 Yeah.

00:59:06.000 Put them on a truck.

00:59:07.000 Like, you know, the nuclear future we could have had if it wasn't for the environmentalists in the 60s.

00:59:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:12.000 We're going to have that now.

00:59:14.000 Yeah.

00:59:14.000 Like, there is amazing things happening on the re industrialization.

00:59:17.000 Trump will be remembered for that.

00:59:19.000 Like, you know, I mean, like, he's making this possible.

00:59:22.000 We haven't been able to build in this country since the 60s.

00:59:25.000 Yeah.

00:59:25.000 These nuclear reactors are likely going to be the key to powering the data centers and everything else that everybody's concerned about.

00:59:34.000 And, you know, like, area denial, lasers, things that can knock drones out of the sky, too.

00:59:38.000 You'll be able to move them around.

00:59:39.000 Well, I mean, they're already on, you know, aircraft carriers which have nuclear power plants on them.

00:59:46.000 Yeah.

00:59:46.000 So, like, Terrestrial, like land based, or even sky based.

00:59:49.000 I mean, you could probably fly those reactors in like in sky machines, you know, airplanes and satellites.

00:59:55.000 Oh, we could get the airships back.

00:59:57.000 The airships as well. 0.51

00:59:58.000 Nuclear airships.

00:59:58.000 I post about this on our account all the time.

01:00:01.000 Airships.

01:00:01.000 There was a dream.

01:00:02.000 It was Atoms for Peace.

01:00:03.000 This is under, I think, Eisenhower.

01:00:05.000 And they had all this propaganda for like, we had the Ford Nucleon.

01:00:07.000 This is a concept car for a nuclear powered car.

01:00:10.000 We had the nuclear airships. 0.91

01:00:11.000 There was this ideal, this future of the American nuclear future that was robbed from us by scared boomers. 0.99

01:00:17.000 It's your. 0.87

01:00:18.000 Because it's pretty dirty.

01:00:20.000 But if you have thorium, it's the thorium salt reactor.

01:00:23.000 It just don't melt down.

01:00:24.000 This is a little bit off topic, but it's a little bit of a tangent.

01:00:27.000 There's one thing that drives me nuts about.

01:00:31.000 The way that people talk about nuclear waste.

01:00:34.000 And I don't know for sure, but I think that it has something to do with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, right?

01:00:40.000 The goo, right?

01:00:41.000 Everybody thinks of nuclear waste as this sludge that's hard to contain, blah, blah, blah.

01:00:47.000 For people that don't know, nuclear waste is metal rods, and they put them, they encase them in concrete and then encase them in a steel tube, right?

01:00:56.000 It is the, it is like they've transported nuclear waste all across the country on the highways.

01:01:02.000 They've had Accidents, car accidents, where the tubes have gotten knocked off and stuff.

01:01:08.000 There's never been a significant nuclear spill of nuclear waste.

01:01:12.000 And that's another thing.

01:01:13.000 They say spill like a metal rod can spill.

01:01:17.000 It's this implication of an oozing liquid that you can't contain and it's hard to clean up.

01:01:22.000 They're literally metal rods.

01:01:24.000 It's like big pieces.

01:01:26.000 They're not made of steel, but it's like these big pieces of steel that they throw in, that they encase in concrete.

01:01:31.000 And when I say encase, I don't mean they put them in a box.

01:01:34.000 They literally just fill up.

01:01:35.000 A container full of concrete.

01:01:37.000 So it's concrete with metal tubes in it, like rebar.

01:01:41.000 Corium?

01:01:42.000 Then they bury them in the ground.

01:01:43.000 And like, this is a massive country.

01:01:46.000 Like, we have plenty of space.

01:01:48.000 So, like, yeah, no.

01:01:51.000 I mean, and this is why, you know, I want to keep going.

01:01:54.000 Like, Trump is going to be remembered for this amazing, you know, all of the amazing things he's doing, you know, re industrialize everything on this front.

01:02:04.000 It can't happen if.

01:02:07.000 We keep bombing the rest of the world.

01:02:10.000 We've got to save this country.

01:02:11.000 The nuclear, it can all be reused, that nuclear waste.

01:02:14.000 They call it waste right now because they haven't really figured out what to do with it, but they have actually.

01:02:17.000 I interviewed Yakez Kiel Moskowitz, a great interview.

01:02:19.000 He has a company that is, he's like, dude, there's 98% of our nuclear waste can be reconverted back into fuel.

01:02:26.000 The whole system's recyclable.

01:02:27.000 It's just a matter of putting the tech in place.

01:02:29.000 We have just made it impossible to build nuclear anything.

01:02:33.000 And there's so much future of this.

01:02:35.000 I mean, the guys at Valar, like, these things are safe.

01:02:39.000 These things are, you know, they are like the more we do it, the more we're going to have experience doing it.

01:02:45.000 We can reuse the waste.

01:02:47.000 We can make sure that these, you know, we can have a future where power is just, it's not, you know, we're not going to be free, but it's going to be almost free.

01:02:57.000 Almost free.

01:02:57.000 Well, that was the argument.

01:02:58.000 That was the promise in the nuclear age.

01:03:00.000 It was like free power.

01:03:02.000 They're going to be able to generate so much power that you're not going to have an electric bill anymore.

01:03:07.000 It's going to go away.

01:03:08.000 And there is a new argument being made about.

01:03:11.000 AI and data centers.

01:03:13.000 If you have a data center, they're using so much power at these data centers that the town down the street becomes a rounding error.

01:03:20.000 The entire power need of the town down the street becomes a rounding error.

01:03:24.000 So it's good for it, it would be good business and good community outreach for the data center to say, you know what, we'll power your town for free.

01:03:32.000 Nobody has an electric bill anymore because really we're spending, you know, whatever, $100 million a month or whatever it is.

01:03:39.000 $100 million a month paying for power for this place.

01:03:42.000 What's another $10 million to cover the power for the town down the street?

01:03:46.000 That is something that is actually a possibility in the future.

01:03:49.000 I call it nuclear reprocessing.

01:03:50.000 That's the.

01:03:51.000 But okay, so my concern is it seems like domestically we're on track technically to rebuild phenomenally.

01:03:57.000 Obviously, you know, chaos and fighting and all that is always a threat.

01:04:00.000 But geopolitically, how do we, what this, this like is, I don't know if you guys want to go back to it, but the Israeli Iranian thing, I don't even think it's an American problem.

01:04:09.000 Like, how do you, what do you do?

01:04:12.000 Because if we lose the, the, the Suez Canal, what's that?

01:04:16.000 You handle it by not handling it.

01:04:18.000 But if we don't do anything, it's not our problem.

01:04:20.000 Suez Canal is our problem.

01:04:22.000 Suez Canal is not near Iran. 1.00

01:04:24.000 It's an, well, it's, yeah, it is. 0.92

01:04:26.000 Straight Hormuz, you're thinking.

01:04:26.000 It's right there.

01:04:27.000 No, I'm thinking of the Suez Canal.

01:04:29.000 We need trade from the Mediterranean to the Pacific.

01:04:31.000 Oh, okay, yeah.

01:04:31.000 So, we need that's their whole point.

01:04:32.000 I think it's why they set up Israel where they set it up 100 years ago is to protect that area of the world so that we can control global trade routes.

01:04:40.000 So, that's kind of why we're tied in. 0.75

01:04:41.000 It's like we need to maintain the Suez and all those little gulfs and things. 1.00

01:04:45.000 That's why you have Kuwait. 0.94

01:04:47.000 Kuwait was our oil bridge out into the Indian Ocean, basically.

01:04:52.000 I mean, how do you, without militarily, without like the only way out is through?

01:04:56.000 I don't know, like blowing our way through this, like exploding 100 million people doesn't seem like the right answer. 1.00

01:05:03.000 I just don't know how to stop them, the Israelis. 1.00

01:05:05.000 Like, my deep concern is that the Israelis are completely cut off geopolitically, diplomatically. 1.00

01:05:11.000 And then they're like, we have no choice but to nuke everyone now. 1.00

01:05:13.000 See, you pushed us to this.

01:05:15.000 We're like, bro, I can't hold your hand.

01:05:16.000 If you're going to threaten suicide over and over, like, at some point, I'm going to let you do it.

01:05:19.000 I don't know what to do.

01:05:20.000 Like, I can't force you to be good.

01:05:25.000 Yeah.

01:05:26.000 So, my thing with Israel, I think that they, you know, I have absolutely no problem with a strong alliance with them.

01:05:36.000 I have absolutely no problem with them defending themselves.

01:05:39.000 I think it's their duty to do that as a country.

01:05:43.000 We need to make very clear that we're not the world's policemen.

01:05:46.000 We cannot be going to do these wars anymore.

01:05:50.000 When you say world's policemen, there's one, I do want to get your opinion on this.

01:05:54.000 I think the United States, as the guarantor of the sea lanes, is a good thing.

01:06:02.000 And I don't think that that counts as world police.

01:06:04.000 Some people would say, oh, you know, the U.S. With all the big Navy that we have and spending all this money on the Navy and et cetera, we don't need that kind of stuff.

01:06:12.000 I don't like, I think the US has been a net positive for global trade because the US guarantees international trade via the seas.

01:06:23.000 Is that when you say, when you say World Police, are you talking about?

01:06:25.000 I think that Trump is rebuilding the Navy, like, you know, something that's really, you know, so we've got something like 10, 12 aircraft carriers groups.

01:06:34.000 During World War II, we built 150 aircraft carriers in four years.

01:06:39.000 We can barely build ships now.

01:06:41.000 Like, to me, like, we should be.

01:06:44.000 I think that the future of America guaranteeing world trade, and I have no problem with that.

01:06:48.000 I don't consider that world police.

01:06:49.000 I consider going in, ground invasion, you know, taking out.

01:06:53.000 Like, I think that a future, you know, I think the stuff that the Andrewal guys, like, you know, I don't want drones flying over my house, like police drones.

01:07:04.000 I want, I want, like, drone ships policing the seas, preventing piracy, preventing, like, you know, we need dominance in, uh, You know, we need naval dominance that of with future technology that we have companies currently building.

01:07:20.000 Like the future where we do that isn't going to be secured by, you know, current generation ships.

01:07:28.000 Like we're seeing the limits of that right now, where, you know, we are trying to keep the Strait of Hormuz open or were, you know, before we signed the deal, like they were just flying $500 drones into the Strait.

01:07:43.000 Like, we need a future technology to be able to help us do that.

01:07:48.000 But to me, like, that's more of like, we need to be focusing on yes, making sure that the various sea lanes are open, making sure that, you know, the Panama Canal is controlled by Americans and not China.

01:08:01.000 Like, all of this is totally possible without invading a single country.

01:08:06.000 You say you didn't want drones flying over your house, and I also identify, but what if they're so high up you don't see them?

01:08:11.000 I care less the less I see them.

01:08:15.000 Even if they're equally as lethal?

01:08:16.000 Well, because satellites are already, you know, going around the planet all the time.

01:08:20.000 And I mean, you may not, I'm not sure exactly the resolution quality you can get with satellites, but I'm fairly confident they can, you know.

01:08:28.000 I know that just the stuff that I see on Google Earth is fairly impressive, you know.

01:08:34.000 So whether it be a drone or a satellite, the concept is essentially the same, right?

01:08:38.000 Well, what I'll say about drones and what I'll say about that, you know, I actually think. 0.62

01:08:46.000 I think that a future of the Second Amendment, for instance, involves Americans owning their own drone swarms. 0.62

01:08:54.000 We actually work at this at our organization.

01:08:56.000 We want to make sure that states, in trying to write a law of Americans to be able to use drones for self defense.

01:09:04.000 It's actually a real thing.

01:09:07.000 Americans should absolutely have drone swarms defending their home.

01:09:13.000 I want to make sure you mentioned the Fourth Amendment earlier. 1.00

01:09:17.000 I absolutely agree.

01:09:19.000 We need to have.

01:09:20.000 Americans need to be able to have, like, be able to have and implement high level encryption.

01:09:26.000 That's the type of thing that there are government actors right now trying to make illegal for Americans to have high level encryption technology.

01:09:34.000 You know, so there's a lot of things we need to do to get back to on the civil liberties front.

01:09:37.000 I'm a very strong believer.

01:09:39.000 I think America has, like, this long tradition of people who care about privacy for its own sake.

01:09:45.000 You're not trying to hide anything.

01:09:46.000 It's just your right to think and behave and be private is something we do need to get back to.

01:09:52.000 And that's, I mean, that's really a cultural fight.

01:09:54.000 Like, we need people to care about that.

01:09:56.000 I think a lot of people just assume they're being spied on, so they don't care.

01:10:00.000 We were just talking about this yesterday.

01:10:01.000 This is actually more a generational fight than anything because Gen X, I'm sorry, Gen Z, they don't conceptualize privacy the same way that I do.

01:10:12.000 I'm a Gen X, I'm 51.

01:10:14.000 Like, when I think of privacy, I think of nobody's watching, nobody's listening, and I can do whatever I want with no one knowing.

01:10:24.000 They don't have the same concept of it.

01:10:27.000 In a day when you tap approve on a new app and you're giving them access to your camera and to your microphone, and they can literally listen to whatever's going on, and it's likely that the phone could possibly send out an ultrasonic tone that you can't hear that will map your room and map the way the interior of your house is.

01:10:50.000 That's become just, well, something that people that are younger just expect.

01:10:57.000 You know, I think that the argument about, I like, I agree with you.

01:11:00.000 I like the idea.

01:11:01.000 If you want privacy, you should be able to have it.

01:11:04.000 But I think people have given up privacy, you know, and given it up for the convenience and the benefits that modern technology.

01:11:16.000 I mean, everyone knows that, not everyone knows, but for people that don't know, your Wi Fi router itself can map the interior of your home now.

01:11:24.000 They have algorithms that can take, can measure the, the, Reflection of Wi Fi signals inside of a room and can literally map out the inside of your room.

01:11:34.000 It's like the Dark Knight.

01:11:36.000 It's like the technology that Batman, that Lawrence Fox had to destroy at the end of Batman because it was too much power for one man to have.

01:11:44.000 And turns out, well, guess what?

01:11:46.000 Now everybody has it in their home, and all it took was the right algorithm to read it.

01:11:51.000 Yeah, I mean, there's always like the pulling between privacy and convenience, like you said.

01:11:56.000 Like on my phone, you know, I'm Gen Z.

01:11:59.000 I was born in 2000.

01:12:00.000 I remember a time when I had a flip phone when I was like, you know, like 12, 13 years old.

01:12:04.000 And back then, like we had.

01:12:07.000 Either pictures that were physical or I had like a few pictures on my phone.

01:12:11.000 And then now, like, I would say probably 80% of the pictures on my phone are in Apple servers.

01:12:18.000 Yeah.

01:12:18.000 Like, they're all just stored there.

01:12:19.000 And, you know, I was looking into like, well, what's the cost of having your own little data center, like your own data server in your own home?

01:12:25.000 And the amount of work you have to do to go through all these programs that can sync then to your phone so you can have your own little personal client that runs 24 7 in your home.

01:12:34.000 Like, it's a little bit easier than you might think, but it's still a lot of work.

01:12:34.000 It's a lot of work.

01:12:38.000 And, For most of us, like, yeah, we just were just born into a world of mass convenience at the expense of our privacy.

01:12:44.000 And implicitly, most people, I guess the market has determined that people are willing to give up their privacy.

01:12:49.000 Like, I know there are times, like, you know, I remember I was talking to my fiance about going to do a vacation in Idaho.

01:12:55.000 And the next thing you know, the next day on Instagram, I'm getting Airbnb ads for the town that I was talking about in Idaho.

01:13:01.000 And I'm like, this just like, what am I going to do?

01:13:04.000 Get rid of my phone?

01:13:05.000 Like, I can't do that.

01:13:05.000 I need my phone for work.

01:13:08.000 I think it has to be a cultural issue.

01:13:09.000 You know, the good.

01:13:11.000 Analog on, you know, to the privacy in my mind is the Second Amendment.

01:13:16.000 Like the idea that you're going to take personal ownership of your security is a cultural thing.

01:13:25.000 So we have the legal right in the United States to defend ourselves with firearms.

01:13:31.000 But the actual act of owning a gun is not simply going to buy a gun.

01:13:35.000 You have to like actually decide, I need to train with the gun.

01:13:38.000 I need to make sure.

01:13:39.000 The same thing, we need a culture of privacy.

01:13:42.000 That probably, you know, I imagine over time, you know, it'll go back and forth.

01:13:47.000 You know, maybe at some point, Gen Z will wake up and say, We want privacy. 0.60

01:13:52.000 And we just need the legal ability to be able to do that if you're willing to take on the work.

01:13:58.000 Because clearly, we have decided as a country, it's an essential part of our culture that we say we want the ability to defend ourselves.

01:14:06.000 And that is an out, like, we are taking ownership of something.

01:14:10.000 We're not just going to rely on the police.

01:14:12.000 We're going to say, We are.

01:14:13.000 You know, we're going to go buy a gun.

01:14:14.000 We're going to train with the gun.

01:14:16.000 We're going to make sure that we have thought through like how we're going to use the gun in certain situations.

01:14:21.000 Like, that's that to me, it's a very strong analogy to privacy.

01:14:26.000 But we need the ability to do that.

01:14:28.000 And so, you know, we want to make sure that we keep that.

01:14:31.000 This is why I demand, like, I do believe our rights are extrapolating to a digital realm of some sort.

01:14:35.000 First Amendment is your right to access the source code of any tech you're using.

01:14:39.000 Now, that's a wide net.

01:14:41.000 And people have said, like, well, then that's going to mean all the All the security protocols in the software are now open and it can be hacked.

01:14:48.000 So you got to be careful.

01:14:49.000 But if you have a drone swarm, you need access to the code to know that it's not coded to destroy you.

01:14:55.000 If you have, because I think another aspect of the Second Amendment digitally is everyone has a right to a personal AGI off grid that can help control the drone swarms, but you need the access to the source code to know that it's not connected to some central server or been coded to destroy you secretly in three years.

01:15:12.000 And that's about as far as I've gotten.

01:15:14.000 I love the drone swarm concept.

01:15:16.000 The concern, of course, is they're like, government's going to be like, hey, If Joey B over there, shout out Joe, has a drone swarm and can control it with his thoughts, he can conquer his neighbor who doesn't have a drone swarm.

01:15:26.000 Although they have a right to their drone swarm, they don't have one yet.

01:15:29.000 And then they're going to be like, well, that's a lot of power to give one man.

01:15:32.000 But I mean, the United States.

01:15:34.000 Having 10 ARs in your home is a lot of power too. 0.67

01:15:36.000 Like, we, like, the whole point of America is you got to trust.

01:15:38.000 Who told you that I have 10 ARs in my house?

01:15:41.000 I was talking about someone else.

01:15:43.000 And it's kind of like, you don't have to trust me.

01:15:47.000 I just have a right to do this.

01:15:48.000 Yeah.

01:15:49.000 Learn to trust me.

01:15:50.000 I mean, that, I think we have to have an America where citizens are trusted in that level. 0.52

01:15:56.000 That's part of why, you know, I'm personally an immigration restrictionist.

01:16:00.000 I think we have to be able to trust the people we have in this country because.

01:16:04.000 Like the entire point of America is you have to be able to.

01:16:08.000 We give people, I mean, you're allowed to say whatever the hell comes to your mind, you know, and you're allowed to have a gun.

01:16:15.000 Like, those are, there's a lot of power that we trust in people.

01:16:18.000 And I think we need to, like, citizenship is not just, you know, it's not something passive.

01:16:25.000 Like, you have to actually take it seriously.

01:16:27.000 All right.

01:16:28.000 We're going to jump to this story here from ABC 7 in Los Angeles.

01:16:34.000 There is a measure to give non citizens the right to vote in.

01:16:37.000 LA city elections, and it's going to go before voters.

01:16:41.000 The Los Angeles City Council took one step closer towards possibly giving non citizens the right to vote in city elections, agreeing to put the measure on the November 3rd ballot.

01:16:52.000 The measure is part of a package of proposed charter changes that will go before voters this year.

01:16:57.000 In a decisive 10 to 5 vote, the council on Wednesday approved a propositional introduction, excuse me, approved a proposal introduced by Councilman Hugo Soto Martinez to implement non citizens or residential voting for city and LA.

01:17:12.000 Unified district elections.

01:17:14.000 Soto Martinez emphasized individuals with some form of legal status, such as deferred action for childhood arrivals, temporary protected status holders, and legal permanent residents would be allowed to vote under such a program.

01:17:26.000 This issue to me is really about fairness and representation, Soto Martinez said.

01:17:30.000 It just does not make sense to me that someone who moves to Los Angeles for a temporary job has more of a voice than a parent who has been here for decades, raising their children through our public schools.

01:17:42.000 I think this is a terrible idea. 0.92

01:17:44.000 For many reasons, you should not set precedent that people that are not citizens should vote.

01:17:51.000 And furthermore, I think that we need to substantially limit the franchise that we already have.

01:17:58.000 I'm a not universal voter kind of dude.

01:18:01.000 I think that MTV did a great disservice with Rock the Vote in the 90s.

01:18:05.000 I think it was a terrible idea.

01:18:08.000 But I'm interested in hearing your take on it.

01:18:10.000 Well, I think we should generally, this is a criticism for you, Phil, take it or leave it, it's unsolicited.

01:18:16.000 Separate those two things.

01:18:18.000 Because some people, when they hear limit for enfranchisement of what we already have to scale things back, they flip out.

01:18:24.000 But the idea of stopping a foreigner from voting, that's not controversial. 1.00

01:18:29.000 Foreign people should not be voting in domestic elections. 1.00

01:18:32.000 That's insanity through and through, I think. 1.00

01:18:34.000 I mean, it seems like it.

01:18:36.000 I'm going to throw something out and trigger Jacob.

01:18:40.000 What's the difference between LA's current voting laws and this?

01:18:44.000 I was going to say, there literally isn't.

01:18:47.000 So I used to live in LA and I was just.

01:18:51.000 Amazed when I went to go vote in 24 and I went there and I tried to show them ID because I heard these rumors that like they won't look at an ID.

01:19:00.000 So I tried to show them my ID and they literally averted their eyes and looked away.

01:19:05.000 It was the most insane, unbelievable experience I've ever had.

01:19:08.000 And all they do, whatever requirements you think exist in Los Angeles, they don't exist.

01:19:14.000 You walk up into the polling station, anywhere they are, there's like they're everywhere, and you go and you say, My name is this, and then you just give them an address and they print you a ballot.

01:19:22.000 There's no verification.

01:19:24.000 Nothing happens.

01:19:25.000 They literally just print it right then and there.

01:19:26.000 They register you right then and there to whatever address you want.

01:19:29.000 They don't check anything.

01:19:30.000 There's literally no check.

01:19:31.000 Then you go, you go into the machine, you go and hit your buttons, print it out, and you give it to them.

01:19:36.000 There is no difference.

01:19:37.000 Like, God knows who, who immigrated in Biden, who like walked up the border, he could go straight to LA and just vote.

01:19:44.000 And this has been the case for years.

01:19:46.000 And California is like sort of under this whole, like, the consequences.

01:19:51.000 So, back in 1994, it was Prop 187.

01:19:54.000 And this is when they tried to restrict public programs from illegal immigrants.

01:19:58.000 This is a big anti illegal immigrant bill.

01:19:59.000 60% of California supported this back in the 1990s.

01:20:02.000 And then a judge said, no, it's actually unconstitutional. 0.96

01:20:05.000 So then the immigration floods, takes over the state.

01:20:08.000 There's other propositions that were really read that got, again, like totally usurped by either the governor or the judges.

01:20:16.000 And ever since then, it's just been under occupation. 0.54

01:20:19.000 And they've just increasingly flooded the state with non citizens and just made it easier and easier for them to vote. 0.87

01:20:25.000 And now they just don't care. 0.95

01:20:26.000 Well, what do you think about it?

01:20:27.000 I saw, I didn't pull it up, but I saw a piece that was on Twitter, someone talking about Hollywood and LA may go the way of Detroit.

01:20:36.000 Because a lot of people are leaving.

01:20:38.000 The movie industry is no longer what it used to be in California.

01:20:45.000 You know, how does California, how does Los Angeles actually recover from the negative things that have already happened and continue to happen as businesses are leaving?

01:20:59.000 So, what needs to happen to California, we've actually gone through this as a country, there is plenty of precedent.

01:21:06.000 You know, we fought the Civil War at the end of the Civil War.

01:21:10.000 We said that the system of government that was set up in the southern states was unacceptable, it was not up to the standards that our country was going to have.

01:21:22.000 And we went through a process of reconstruction of southern states to reform their constitutions and to bring them into alignment with a standard that was acceptable to be part of the Union.

01:21:33.000 In my opinion, the state of California is way past the point where their standards are.

01:21:41.000 For how their state is governed is so bad that it is not acceptable to just say, well, it's California, they're their own state, they can do their own thing.

01:21:51.000 I think California needs, and I'm a native Oregonian.

01:21:55.000 Californians destroyed my state first. 0.97

01:21:59.000 They all came up to Oregon, they took all the good jobs because they had fancy degrees from Berkeley, and they ruined my state. 0.88

01:22:07.000 And now they're doing the same thing to Washington and Idaho and Utah.

01:22:11.000 But the point being, California's lack of care or whatever you want to describe in terms of motive, California is conducting itself on the governance sphere in a way that is unacceptable to be part of the federal union.

01:22:30.000 And I think they need to be abolished and reconstructed.

01:22:33.000 Like the government needs to be reconstructed from the ground up to fit in conformity with federal laws.

01:22:38.000 Because Gavin Newsom likes to say, You know, Californians are the next exporter.

01:22:44.000 You know, they give more federal tax dollars than they receive in federal benefits.

01:22:50.000 That, like, at the end of the day, doesn't matter.

01:22:54.000 California has made access to government programs, to illegal immigrants, and to really just, they have not enforced any laws on fraud in forever.

01:23:06.000 Like, you can go down the list of governance issues that affect the entire country.

01:23:11.000 California cannot be allowed to continue to govern itself in its current regime.

01:23:16.000 That its laws are completely antithetical to our American way of life and our way of government.

01:23:21.000 And that's my rant.

01:23:22.000 You mentioned reconstruction, Civil War.

01:23:24.000 I've heard a lot about it.

01:23:26.000 I thought it was they were rebuilding buildings.

01:23:28.000 Now, you just pointed out they were actually rebuilding their policy, their government constitutions.

01:23:33.000 Yeah.

01:23:34.000 So, what happened?

01:23:36.000 All these states surrendered, and then they're like.

01:23:38.000 Yeah, all these states had laws saying that black people were not considered citizens.

01:23:45.000 African Americans were not considered citizens.

01:23:48.000 So, they went through and completely rewrote state constitutions after that.

01:23:54.000 And also, and then made them come into conformity with federal law.

01:23:58.000 So, yeah, I mean, there was a whole series, sequence of things.

01:24:02.000 And yeah, no, Reconstruction was a political Reconstruction.

01:24:04.000 So, short of like a war that California loses, how would you see them actually abiding by or giving?

01:24:13.000 I think that you can do it simply through legislation. 0.59

01:24:16.000 I think you can say that no state in America can allow non citizens to vote in this instance, no state in America can allow non citizens to be eligible for social programs.

01:24:29.000 That have received any dollar of federal money, and all of California's do.

01:24:33.000 So I think you can go through and just simply state, you know, if California wants to receive a single dollar in federal benefits, they need to, you know, enact XYZ reforms.

01:24:43.000 You can do absolutely do that.

01:24:45.000 They're not enforcing laws across the board in California that we can just, like, you know, if you're not going to, if you're not going to police your streets, if you're not going to clean up, you know, if you're not going to, you know, clean up the homeless problem, like, you can spend as much money on, Homelessness as you want.

01:25:04.000 If you're just not going to solve these problems, the federal government's going to create a national standard that every state has to conform to.

01:25:11.000 I mean, this is like, this is how, you know, like every state in America adopted a 21-age drinking age because it was a federal standard to do so.

01:25:22.000 The federal government's been enacting standards that states have to comply to forever.

01:25:27.000 I think we need to do it with California and how they run their government.

01:25:30.000 Yeah.

01:25:30.000 California is in a uniquely awful position.

01:25:33.000 Its Medicaid program, I think, went.

01:25:35.000 Bankrupt last year, or announced like it's near bankruptcy, all sorts of issues with that.

01:25:40.000 Every one of the other big ones was when the Palisades Fire hit.

01:25:43.000 They have a state run house insurance program where, if and if there was this whole situation where when the Palisades Fire happened, a bunch of the houses in the Palisades were no longer being insured by like State Farm, these large insurance companies, because California is already hostile to these firms.

01:25:59.000 So, a bunch of these non renewals kicked in right in January.

01:26:02.000 Palisades Fire happened like the 7th and 9th of January, and then when that happened, all these houses were supposed to go on.

01:26:07.000 I think it's called the Fair Program, and this was a state run.

01:26:09.000 Housing insurance program.

01:26:10.000 The value of the Palisades alone being burnt to nothing was enough to bankrupt the entire state.

01:26:17.000 So the entire state is run so poorly that any sort of catastrophic event can send the entire state into financial turmoil.

01:26:25.000 And this is part of the reason why I think like 2030 is significantly like 2028 is super important because we're sort of at this precipice where all these blue states are committing economic suicide.

01:26:35.000 You have companies pulling out of Seattle, you have California like Hollywood's pulling out.

01:26:38.000 Colorado is probably the first big blue state that's actually hit a legitimate recession within the state.

01:26:43.000 While other states are like red states are like uprising right now, they're all doing great economically.

01:26:48.000 Colorado's in recession.

01:26:49.000 They're losing tons of jobs.

01:26:50.000 People can't even move out of their houses because the housing situation there.

01:26:53.000 All of these states are kind of going under.

01:26:55.000 And as they continue to go under, if we don't have control of 28 and like into 2030 and whatnot, then when these cities go under, which will then bankrupt the states and the federal government's going to bail them out.

01:27:06.000 And this is a massive, massive concern that people aren't really thinking of yet.

01:27:09.000 These states are huge liabilities to the solvency of America as a whole and they're killing themselves.

01:27:15.000 And Ian, how do they bail them out?

01:27:19.000 Federal tax dollars.

01:27:20.000 No, they print the money.

01:27:21.000 Oh, you were just complaining about it earlier.

01:27:23.000 They just print it out of nothing.

01:27:25.000 Federal Reserve prints it for them and then they borrow it.

01:27:28.000 Interest and then more inflation for the American people.

01:27:32.000 That you do make a good point because this really is going to be something that you know it's going to be in conjunction with the social security going bankrupt, you're going to have states going bankrupt, and the government is just going to start printing.

01:27:49.000 They're choosing to do this, like, this is a choice of policy.

01:27:52.000 This is the big thing, what's terrifying about California, and even though fine in California, this law doesn't really matter, and Los Angeles specifically doesn't matter because they already don't care about.

01:28:02.000 Checking anything.

01:28:03.000 But that'll be a model for the rest of the country.

01:28:05.000 Yes.

01:28:05.000 Exactly.

01:28:06.000 Every blue state from California up to Seattle and then Colorado follows and then Illinois follows and then New York follows and then they sort of create this secondary country where their policies then bleed out into all these other states and the effects of this then bleed out to the rest of the country, which is like the case for this needs to be handled.

01:28:23.000 They cannot choose to kill themselves like this because if they do, then they're going to take the rest of us with them.

01:28:28.000 Yeah, this is an argument that we make or a topic we discuss regularly.

01:28:32.000 The The things that are going on in California when it comes to voting, that's what the Democrat Party wants to see nationally.

01:28:41.000 So, if California is allowed to continue to basically rig the system, and we talk about what rig the system means, right?

01:28:50.000 Like anytime you say to a Democrat, you say, Look, they're rigging the system in California, it's bad.

01:28:56.000 And the response is always, Well, that's the law, as if the law implies legitimacy, right? 0.92

01:29:02.000 If you think, Okay, only Americans should vote, and you think, Well, you know, They don't let illegals vote, right? 0.95

01:29:08.000 That's the thing if you're here illegally, you can't vote. 0.90

01:29:12.000 And again, you talk to any Democrat and they'll say, illegals can't vote.

01:29:15.000 But then you go through the system that California actually has.

01:29:18.000 There's no IDs.

01:29:20.000 Anyone can go up and say, I live here, give me a ballot.

01:29:25.000 They mail ballots out.

01:29:27.000 There's no chain of custody.

01:29:28.000 There's no guarantee that the person that filled out the ballot was actually a legitimate voter or here legally.

01:29:34.000 All of this stuff is enshrined in law.

01:29:36.000 So it's legal, it's all.

01:29:39.000 Above board, but it's set up so that way it is not representing the people.

01:29:45.000 It is representing people that are here illegally, and it is representing the Democrat Party. 0.97

01:29:50.000 That's what they would love to do in the United States.

01:29:52.000 I mean, that's kind of what happened in the 2020 election, right?

01:29:56.000 They mailed out ballots, collected the ballots.

01:29:59.000 No one knows for sure if all the ballots that were counted were legal.

01:30:03.000 But we get Democrats that come in here or left leaning people, and they're like, and their common refrain is, was the 2020 election stolen?

01:30:13.000 And the answer is no, because it was legal.

01:30:19.000 And that's what they say.

01:30:20.000 Well, it was all legal, and you haven't shown me, you can't prove.

01:30:24.000 And it's like, no, I don't have evidence of massive voter fraud.

01:30:29.000 You're right, I don't have that evidence.

01:30:31.000 But when you mail out ballots and you have no way to verify that the people that were filling out the ballots were actually legitimate voters, then you can't say that it was legitimate.

01:30:44.000 Yes, it was legal.

01:30:45.000 Yes, Joe Biden was elected legally, you know, but it wasn't legitimate.

01:30:51.000 It was a completely novel way for the United States to carry out an election.

01:30:55.000 And people say, well, COVID, COVID, COVID.

01:30:58.000 You know what?

01:30:59.000 The proper solution to COVID means that you just have a really low turnout.

01:31:03.000 Yeah.

01:31:04.000 Not mail out ballots, not make sure that anybody that's in the country of America gets to have a ballot.

01:31:12.000 You just say, oh, well, this particular election, we have a really low turnout.

01:31:17.000 Because no one complains about the variance in turnouts from election to election to election under normal circumstances.

01:31:25.000 But when Donald Trump's going against Joe Biden and they want to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get in again, well, then you figure out a way for it to be legal to do unprecedented things.

01:31:37.000 Yeah.

01:31:38.000 So you're absolutely right.

01:31:40.000 What Democrats do is they create their masters at process.

01:31:44.000 I envy their ability to just engineer process to get the outcome to be exactly what they want it to be, which is what they did during COVID completely changed election laws in a ton of states around.

01:31:55.000 They made it election season in a bunch of different states that had never had that before.

01:32:00.000 And, you know, so yeah, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's okay, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

01:32:07.000 And it doesn't mean we shouldn't change it.

01:32:09.000 And we have got to get to a situation in this country where we look at states like California, not just California, kind of across the board.

01:32:16.000 I mean, I live in Virginia.

01:32:18.000 They're doing this to my state right now.

01:32:20.000 Just because they passed a law doesn't mean that we need to like accept this as, you know, How we're going to govern ourselves as a country.

01:32:29.000 We have got to get to the point where we have the confidence to say, no, you're not allowed to have any level of government in America that has a single non citizen voting for it. 0.93

01:32:40.000 Like, it's not okay. 0.79

01:32:42.000 You're not allowed to have them vote legally, like they're trying to propose, and you're not allowed to let them vote by simply looking the other way.

01:32:50.000 We need to have a system of elections that have standards and that have rules and that the rules are followed.

01:32:56.000 You know, no one's perfect, doesn't need to be perfect.

01:32:58.000 It needs to have a high degree of confidence, though.

01:33:01.000 And we just have to get to a point where we're just confident enough as a country to say, we're just not going to tolerate that.

01:33:07.000 My concern here is if we were to initiate a reconstruction through the federal government into California and be like, you're going to be changing laws.

01:33:16.000 And if you don't, you're going to lose government funding, that they would go, well, we're not.

01:33:20.000 And the Americans have betrayed, the American government has betrayed us.

01:33:24.000 See everyone, China, help us.

01:33:26.000 And then China comes in and funds all their military.

01:33:29.000 Then you send in the National Guard.

01:33:31.000 If they say, China, help us, which I think that that's a little extreme.

01:33:36.000 I think that's a little extreme, but if there were any state that were to appeal to an adversary and say, hey, come help us, that's when you send in the military.

01:33:46.000 Or if there's no appeal.

01:33:47.000 And you forcibly remove the people in government. 0.86

01:33:49.000 But if there's no appeal and then the Chinese help, whatever.

01:33:52.000 But I see your point that that could lead to military conflict.

01:33:55.000 So I think California is too big personally to govern.

01:33:59.000 I think it should be cut in half, like North and South California.

01:34:02.000 I'd be fine with that.

01:34:03.000 The North is very different than the South.

01:34:05.000 I think that there's a big argument for a lot of states.

01:34:08.000 Again, I'm from Oregon.

01:34:11.000 Oregon is completely dominated by Portland, but the rest of the state, there's the I 5 corridor, which is all liberal.

01:34:21.000 It's Portland and Eugene.

01:34:23.000 It's the same thing in California.

01:34:24.000 You have this tiny little geographic area where there are all of the people, and they all happen to be leftists, but then there's the rest of the state, which are massive land mass.

01:34:37.000 And the people who do live there are completely different.

01:34:40.000 You know, I mean, like, completely different culture.

01:34:43.000 Like, 180, you know, these are like, you know, small government conservatives in the rest of Oregon.

01:34:49.000 Same thing in California.

01:34:50.000 Same thing in a lot of these states.

01:34:52.000 Like, you know, I think that there's actually people talking about potentially breaking up California into states.

01:34:58.000 The problem is the North and the South would be the most sensical thing would be to cut it in half.

01:35:03.000 So, like, San Francisco takes the North, Los Angeles takes the South, essentially, the two biggest cities or whatever.

01:35:08.000 But the real difference.

01:35:09.000 Differentiation in California is east and west.

01:35:11.000 The west is the world that's what I'm interested in.

01:35:14.000 Yeah, and they control the seaboard, which is that's the value of California is the Pacific.

01:35:18.000 And then all the people in the east are the farmers, right?

01:35:21.000 Beyond the mountains.

01:35:22.000 Like you wouldn't cut it laterally, that wouldn't make any sense.

01:35:25.000 Uh, I mean, that's more interesting to me because, like, you want I mean, California, what's that?

01:35:30.000 What are the political differences between San Francisco and Los Angeles?

01:35:33.000 It's not really, yeah, this the political difference and the reason that you would want is everyone kind of east, you know, of the state, like they come, like, you know, these are these are completely different culture.

01:35:47.000 Like, to me, it's more of like cultural compatibility, but the the um, tech, like the military value of California is the Pacific.

01:35:54.000 Coast access.

01:35:55.000 Sure.

01:35:55.000 It's part of why Putin went into Crimea and Ukraine is so they could get Mediterranean access.

01:36:00.000 You take away seaborne access, you're begging for a war.

01:36:03.000 We can keep San Diego.

01:36:04.000 So there could be, I don't know.

01:36:08.000 It's a big ask, but California is just, it just seems too big.

01:36:11.000 The north is like the, what are they called?

01:36:14.000 The redwood trees.

01:36:14.000 It's a lot of forested area.

01:36:16.000 The south is like mountains and desert.

01:36:18.000 Yeah.

01:36:19.000 Yeah.

01:36:20.000 Texas actually has, like, it's funny you talk about breaking up states.

01:36:22.000 The ultimate Republican nuclear weapon is.

01:36:25.000 Is I think enshrined somewhere deep in the Texas Constitution.

01:36:28.000 There's this hidden clause that it can break itself up to like seven or nine states.

01:36:32.000 And this is the ultimate, like, we're going to take the Senate forever.

01:36:35.000 We are going to break Texas up and then we will own the federal government, which I don't think will ever happen because Texas is like, Texans love the shape of our state.

01:36:44.000 But that is like, there are these sort of options like breaking up some of the bigger Western states into things.

01:36:50.000 But how realistic any of this is, is like harder to say.

01:36:53.000 I think it's probably more realistic.

01:36:54.000 So, like you said. 0.52

01:36:55.000 I do think, like, kind of getting back to the Reconstruction.

01:36:58.000 Like, there's varying degrees of severity of it.

01:37:01.000 So, you know, there's you can do simple good governance legislation.

01:37:08.000 Again, it kind of gets back.

01:37:09.000 The Senate doesn't do anything to, and Trump, you know, that's why even today he's tweeting out like they must abolish the filibuster.

01:37:19.000 You know, regardless if you agree with that or not, the point being this will require legislation, but we have to have standards that these states adhere to.

01:37:28.000 We have got to have.

01:37:30.000 You know, you can't allow the level of just degeneracy that California has degraded into in how they're governing their state.

01:37:44.000 Dude, I have mixed feelings.

01:37:45.000 I sort of veer towards the Jeffersonian model of states' rights over the Hamiltonian model of federal authority.

01:37:53.000 But the Civil War sort of was like, you can't let that happen. 0.88

01:37:57.000 I mean, if the country were to break in half into another conflict, That China would take over the world.

01:38:03.000 The Russians and the Chinese would dominate the planet economically. 0.93

01:38:07.000 They would swoop in and fund half of the revolution. 0.97

01:38:10.000 So they can't have.

01:38:11.000 We can't.

01:38:12.000 I don't want a civil war, to be very clear. 1.00

01:38:14.000 I think we just need to assert that we're not going to accept behavior like what we're talking about with allowing non citizens to vote. 0.90

01:38:26.000 I think if you were to clean up California's voter rolls, if that were just to be required, if you want to receive another dollar more of federal funding, You're to clean up California's voter rolls. 0.99

01:38:35.000 If you were to, kind of going back to your point about too many people voting, I'm sympathetic to that argument.

01:38:41.000 I think that vote by mail, like, I think you need to require, I think you need to have standards in place that make election counting happen overnight.

01:38:52.000 Like, people need to have results of the election the same night.

01:38:56.000 I think you need to have a system where it's not election.

01:38:59.000 India has 1.5 billion people and they know the results of their elections the same day or the next morning.

01:39:06.000 I mean, Every third world country can administer elections.

01:39:10.000 And you know what their voter security is?

01:39:12.000 They make you dip your finger in pink ink so that you can, that doesn't come off for a week, so that you do know that that person has voted or not.

01:39:20.000 Like, there's low tech solutions to this stuff.

01:39:23.000 Like, that's literally, it is not hard to do.

01:39:26.000 We have to.

01:39:27.000 And my point being, though, going back to California, if you were to clean up the voter rolls, if you were to have election day instead of election season, if you were to make sure, like, all of a sudden Republicans would start winning elections that they haven't won in 20 years.

01:39:40.000 How do you feel about blockchain voting?

01:39:42.000 Have you guys looked into it much?

01:39:44.000 I prefer low tech to high tech when it comes to election security, just because I've seen all of these.

01:39:50.000 So, like, I love blockchain.

01:39:52.000 I love the technology.

01:39:54.000 There's like a lot of really cool stuff going on in Wyoming with blockchain.

01:39:58.000 But when it comes to elections, I think that voters inherently trust low tech over high tech.

01:40:05.000 It's harder to cheat at scale.

01:40:07.000 Like, again, I'm a huge fan of blockchain.

01:40:09.000 I think, though, simple is better.

01:40:11.000 Yep.

01:40:13.000 And, and like, you know, I, so I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm not like against it, but just as like, what can we do right now?

01:40:21.000 Paper ballots.

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 I kind of see a hybrid system where you, You put the paper ballot in the machine and then it goes to a series of like 19 different blockchains where then you can go online and there's a barcode that you can scan, punch in your ID, your social, and verify that your vote is being read as what you put it in as.

01:40:40.000 Because not against all paper ballots, you could write one thing and then they can count it as another.

01:40:45.000 No, and that's actually been a thing in Detroit for like Detroit, Chicago, the blue cities.

01:40:52.000 Like, voter fraud has been a thing in America for a very long time.

01:40:58.000 It's existed for as long as the Democrat Party has.

01:41:01.000 But yeah, I mean, so like, I actually think that's interesting and certainly not opposed to it, but low tech is certainly possible and would eliminate a lot of the biggest problems that we have.

01:41:13.000 Yeah.

01:41:14.000 Like, even if I were interested in some solution like blockchain or high tech, we can't even get voter ID passed.

01:41:21.000 So to have something like a complete revamping of the way we do votes when you can't even get, You know, get verification via ID.

01:41:34.000 I think that that's, I think that, I mean, to get what you're talking about, you need ID first because you just were mentioning, you know, you punch in, everybody would have to have a number.

01:41:34.000 Yeah.

01:41:43.000 And I think that you'd get resistance from both sides.

01:41:46.000 You'd get resistance about having ID from the Democrats and you'd get resistance from Republicans saying, I don't want to have a serialized number that the government is, you know, it would be one of those, you know, digital ID kind of arguments.

01:41:59.000 So, whereas I understand what you're saying for security reasons, I think the easiest thing.

01:42:05.000 Is look, you go, you get one paper ballot.

01:42:08.000 I wouldn't mind if the United States were like, all right, you have to actually put your fingerprint on it.

01:42:15.000 Not that they should keep those records, but dip your finger in ink that doesn't come off for a week.

01:42:21.000 So that way you can prove you voted, but you can't go back and vote again.

01:42:26.000 I think it's like to get to too many people vote, I think you should have to care enough to show up on the day.

01:42:34.000 You should have to care that much.

01:42:36.000 100%.

01:42:38.000 And it wasn't that long that that was basically the standard.

01:42:42.000 And as few exceptions as possible, but that's at least a minimum threshold to where you have surety that the people are voting and that you have to have a level of buy in that you're willing to show up on a particular day.

01:42:56.000 Would you make or be open to making it a national holiday?

01:43:00.000 I mean, I think you can.

01:43:01.000 I don't think that it's needed, but sure.

01:43:02.000 Because a lot of people will argue they can't get to the voting polls because they work 12 hours.

01:43:07.000 A lot of people would lie.

01:43:08.000 Or lie.

01:43:08.000 It's supposed to let you off to go vote during work, at least in my experience.

01:43:13.000 But a lot of people would lie and say, oh, it's never been a federal holiday.

01:43:18.000 Somehow it worked.

01:43:20.000 Like, I think that companies should be encouraged, you know, to like, you know, make it easier for people.

01:43:20.000 Like, I don't care.

01:43:26.000 But I also like, you know, like if you wanted to trade Juneteenth for Election Day, sure.

01:43:33.000 Which is today, isn't it?

01:43:35.000 Yes.

01:43:36.000 Happy Juneteenth, guys.

01:43:38.000 The post office is closed.

01:43:40.000 Happy Juneteenth.

01:43:41.000 Growing up, that was never a thing.

01:43:43.000 Like I said, I'm 50 and I can't.

01:43:46.000 Yeah.

01:43:46.000 This is like the past couple of years, the first couple of years where it's like, oh, everything's closed.

01:43:51.000 I'm okay with it being a little bit harder.

01:43:52.000 I, I had a hard time in LA getting out to vote, getting out to rock the vote personally, because I had to work till 6 30, and then the voting places would be closed up or closing.

01:44:02.000 And it was super angering.

01:44:04.000 Like, I was so, I felt like I was being disenfranchised by the way the system was set up.

01:44:09.000 I mean, I'm sure there's a case we made.

01:44:09.000 Sure.

01:44:10.000 Like, maybe it should be open for the full 24 hours, maybe a national holiday, or like some sort of manual, like, hey, you can go out and vote during a work day.

01:44:18.000 Like, you can take a few hours off or whatever.

01:44:20.000 But like you were saying, you know, Dune's already saying that, that, There are Republicans now in the Senate that are so opposed to Trump that they would never vote for SAVE.

01:44:29.000 So we're already running into all these roadblocks of like the rhinos in the Senate.

01:44:33.000 I want their names. 1.00

01:44:34.000 Yeah.

01:44:35.000 They won't approve.

01:44:36.000 They won't vote for an 80% approval rating bill.

01:44:38.000 Yeah.

01:44:38.000 So the idea of, and that should be the minimum standard.

01:44:42.000 This isn't something that's some kind of off the wall crazy idea.

01:44:46.000 I mean, you talk to people in places like Canada and they're like, you don't have to show ID to vote.

01:44:51.000 Are you kidding me?

01:44:52.000 What is missing in the SAVE Act?

01:44:53.000 I haven't read it.

01:44:54.000 Is it worth reading?

01:44:55.000 Like, is there something in there that people are like, no, we can't let that happen?

01:44:58.000 It's literally Republican.

01:45:00.000 Republicans hate Donald Trump.

01:45:01.000 So that's the more recent thing.

01:45:03.000 A little while ago, the Senate, they took a vote to see, like, would you vote yes or no?

01:45:08.000 Not a, we're voting on the bill, but would you vote yes or no on the bill?

01:45:11.000 And even then, I think they only, well, they voted on this last summer.

01:45:14.000 And 50, Tellus ended up taking his name off, but they had 51 votes for a while.

01:45:21.000 It was last June they voted on this.

01:45:24.000 So, like, Republicans, the Republicans in the Senate are terrible. 0.95

01:45:31.000 And they hate America. 0.98

01:45:33.000 They hate Trump. 1.00

01:45:34.000 Like, these are just kind of Republican senators are like the worst human beings on the planet. 0.86

01:45:39.000 Is it, is it like a type of omnibus bill?

01:45:41.000 Is it just a bunch of stuff jammed in there?

01:45:43.000 No.

01:45:43.000 Irrelevant?

01:45:44.000 I got to read it.

01:45:44.000 No.

01:45:45.000 It's very sad.

01:45:46.000 Like, it's like two pages.

01:45:47.000 It's not long.

01:45:48.000 I think there was a draft of it that included some other things, but the very most.

01:45:52.000 Oh, because Trump wanted a few other things included in it.

01:45:56.000 But that, you know, to me, that's neither here nor there.

01:45:59.000 Like, it's not, you know, The SAVE Act itself could just get passed by itself.

01:46:06.000 I mean, at this point, Trump's like, I'm not going to sign FISA reauthorization unless there's SAVE as part of it.

01:46:12.000 Like, Trump, to his credit, is really pushing this.

01:46:16.000 And even then, like, I think that one of the more recent criticisms that I saw when a lot of the SAVE debate was happening a few weeks ago, where a bunch of Republicans were even saying, well, voter fraud really isn't that much of a big deal.

01:46:27.000 Like, we don't really need to worry about it.

01:46:28.000 It's a really small amount.

01:46:29.000 This bill is unnecessary.

01:46:31.000 And it's like, What?

01:46:32.000 So, I mean, you obviously have every Democrat's going to oppose it because for them, like, this is their voters.

01:46:37.000 And then you have a lot of Republicans who, frankly, it's not even just about hitting Trump.

01:46:41.000 They also just can't stand their own voter base.

01:46:42.000 Are we on track to use Dominion voting machines again for the next federal election?

01:46:46.000 We got to go to Discord.

01:46:49.000 We'll find out soon.

01:46:51.000 Yeah, right.

01:46:51.000 Let's see.

01:46:52.000 What do we got here today?

01:46:53.000 We got callers.

01:46:54.000 No, we're not going to callers.

01:46:55.000 We got questions.

01:46:56.000 So, if y'all have questions, drop them in the Discord chat.

01:47:01.000 What do we got?

01:47:01.000 Let's see.

01:47:04.000 Where are they?

01:47:05.000 They should be appearing soon.

01:47:07.000 I think Olivia just put it on slow mode.

01:47:10.000 Give it to me.

01:47:10.000 Oh, Olivia, what are you doing?

01:47:14.000 Slow down, everyone.

01:47:15.000 I'm having a hard time following.

01:47:16.000 Here we go.

01:47:18.000 In regards to companies collecting data, the person clicking accept cannot give approval for everyone else around them in their contacts.

01:47:27.000 And currently, this is how it is.

01:47:28.000 Let's see.

01:47:29.000 In regards to companies collecting data, the person clicking accept cannot give approval for everyone else around them or in their contacts.

01:47:36.000 And currently, this is how it is.

01:47:38.000 I know.

01:47:39.000 If someone blindly clicks that they accept, the children living in your home, your guests, and your family member who isn't on social media do not give approval.

01:47:45.000 Do you think that this is something that will ever face the courts or be written into law?

01:47:49.000 Unlikely.

01:47:50.000 Yeah.

01:47:52.000 Because I don't think that anything is gone.

01:47:55.000 I think he's kind of referring to the shadow profiles that Facebook makes.

01:47:59.000 So, if you're not aware, if you have a phone number in your contact list and it's mom, and then one of your friends has the same phone number in their contact list and it's Sherry, then Facebook will say, oh, look, this number matches.

01:48:15.000 This person's name is Sherry.

01:48:17.000 Let's make a profile for him.

01:48:23.000 And then if you go somewhere else, And say, I'm here with Sherry, and they see that it's the person, somehow they see that it matches some information on that Sherry person, and there's a picture, and you check in, they'll put the picture on it.

01:48:37.000 So they'll literally build a profile, and it's not particularly hard when people are sharing all their information.

01:48:44.000 They'll build a profile for a person that doesn't even have a Facebook page, that's never signed up for Facebook ever.

01:48:48.000 And the more information they get, the more comprehensive the profile will be.

01:48:54.000 And I don't imagine that there's going to be any kind of legislation about it.

01:48:58.000 You know, this is Facebook's business model.

01:49:02.000 You know, they've never.

01:49:03.000 Courts have been so deferential to these companies that I just don't see that being an approach.

01:49:11.000 I actually like the way you're thinking, though, because that ultimately is probably a type of legalistic approach that we're going to have to take against these guys.

01:49:21.000 But right now, I just, I mean, the courts just let these guys run wild.

01:49:27.000 And that's unfortunately the world we're living in right now.

01:49:33.000 Let's see.

01:49:34.000 Taylor Lorenz's ex wife says, Ian, you made it rain here in Texas and it's 100 degrees.

01:49:40.000 I'm blaming you.

01:49:42.000 Can you guys riff on the guy in the UK who threw a three year old into a crocodile enclosure?

01:49:47.000 What?

01:49:47.000 Story from today just says, man, in Coulter's Law.

01:49:50.000 Well, yeah.

01:49:51.000 I mean, look, if you have a person in your country that is not supposed to be there, they should be sent home regardless as to whether or not they have thrown a three year old into a crocodile enclosure.

01:50:06.000 If you find a person that throws a three year old into a crocodile enclosure, they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law that the law allows, regardless of whether they are in your country legally or illegally.

01:50:23.000 It's not necessary to carry out the most extreme form of punishment that the government allows to someone that.

01:50:36.000 Is there illegally that is throwing the crocodile?

01:50:38.000 Like, they get the worst just for throwing the kid into the crocodile enclosure.

01:50:43.000 It doesn't matter if they're there legally or not.

01:50:44.000 And anyone that's there legally should be sent illegally, should be sent home.

01:50:48.000 I mean, yeah, the UK is just obviously we have our problems here, but man, the Rotherham inquiry or the rape report, yeah, Rupert Lowe's rape report, 212 pages, 250,000 girls. 0.92

01:51:00.000 It's like, I mean, the accounts and all the you know, people have been trying to like nitpick the numbers and whatnot, but.

01:51:07.000 The actual accounts of what's happened to these girls and how it was allowed, encouraged, covered up by police, by the UK officials.

01:51:14.000 I mean, by care workers, by people that were in the hospitals.

01:51:18.000 They were paying.

01:51:19.000 Like, one of the most worst cases that I read when I was looking through it was that a girl would be trafficked. 0.70

01:51:24.000 She'd become pregnant.

01:51:26.000 She would have the child. 0.75

01:51:27.000 And then the traffickers that raped her would then get paid foster care money by the state to take care of the child as a result of the trafficking.

01:51:38.000 And to your point, like, you know, people are going to, they're trying to discredit it by saying that it wasn't done by the government.

01:51:38.000 Unreal.

01:51:45.000 They're going after, they're saying, Oh, it couldn't have been 250,000.

01:51:48.000 Even I made this, yeah, I know.

01:51:49.000 I made this point on the morning show the other day.

01:51:53.000 It doesn't matter if they increase the numbers by 100%.

01:51:57.000 If it was 125,000 girls, it is still make it 80 or 800,000.

01:52:04.000 It is that is completely irrelevant to the fact that they had a systemic nationwide problem, like that every single Aspect of government was in on it.

01:52:04.000 It doesn't matter.

01:52:19.000 They knew it was happening.

01:52:20.000 They allowed it to happen.

01:52:22.000 They encouraged it in many cases to happen. 0.98

01:52:24.000 I mean, some of these, you know, some of these, you know, some of these care facilities, they were using them to pimp out the, like, the Muslim men would wait out front for the girls to leave and they'd pick them up. 1.00

01:52:39.000 Like, every single, like, I am more mad at the government officials in the UK than I'm even like, you know, obviously, you know, UK needs to, Do remigration, but they need to. 0.99

01:52:53.000 They need to lock up every single person who is involved in any aspect of this.

01:52:58.000 I mean the, and and I mean there's.

01:53:01.000 There's so many people that are trying to cover it up or that have have tried to cover it up.

01:53:06.000 The thing that really does kind of get me the most is the the care workers right, the people at hospitals and the police officers, the I someone asked me you know that it said.

01:53:17.000 They said something along the lines of that's going to happen in America and I brought up, That's not going to happen in America.

01:53:23.000 This is a country where a father went and his daughter was raped, and he went and he took the law into his own hands.

01:53:36.000 He was tried for murder.

01:53:38.000 They found him not guilty.

01:53:40.000 Then he ran for sheriff and won to be the sheriff.

01:53:43.000 This is a country that celebrates Gary Plushet Day.

01:53:46.000 Now, this might be a little too online for some people, but Gary Plushet, his son was molested by his karate teacher.

01:53:55.000 As the man was being brought through the airport, Gary Plashay took the law into his own hands, and everyone knows the story.

01:54:02.000 And so, this kind of stuff, like as much as terrible things can happen in the United States, I don't even think that law enforcement would allow that.

01:54:14.000 Now, here in the US.

01:54:15.000 I disagree with you.

01:54:17.000 I bet you it's already happening in places like Minneapolis.

01:54:20.000 I bet it already is.

01:54:20.000 You think so?

01:54:22.000 It's small scale, sure.

01:54:24.000 But, I mean, you saw the reaction that Minneapolis had.

01:54:28.000 Kind of the crazed women involved in those, you know, ice riots like earlier this year.

01:54:36.000 I bet it's happening right now. 0.51

01:54:37.000 And I mean, there, I know that most of America, I 100% agree with you.

01:54:42.000 I think that places like Minneapolis, I think certain places in Michigan, I mean, we have, I mean, you know, there's cities in Michigan where they do Islamic call to prayer.

01:54:52.000 Yeah.

01:54:53.000 I would not be surprised if in cities like that, if it's not already happening. 1.00

01:54:56.000 And even like going away from just like the Muslim thing. 1.00

01:55:00.000 It was either in the city of Philadelphia or the state of Pennsylvania, I think. 1.00

01:55:04.000 This is very recent.

01:55:05.000 I think this is yesterday.

01:55:06.000 The Supreme Court had to formally ask, I think it was the Attorney General of the state, or maybe it was like the District Attorney for the city.

01:55:13.000 I'm spacing on which one to not lie to them because it turns out that that individual, that official, plus like their secretary were just straight up lying, trying to get people off of death row for like murder and like all sorts of other heinous crimes.

01:55:28.000 This just happened like yesterday, I think.

01:55:30.000 It was so it's like you're already seeing various amounts of law enforcement try and sweep this under the rug.

01:55:36.000 So I agree that there are problematic district attorneys.

01:55:40.000 Yeah.

01:55:41.000 Well, no, there are problematic district attorneys. 0.63

01:55:41.000 Right. 0.63

01:55:44.000 Right.

01:55:44.000 But I don't think that for the most part, law enforcement is going to like the actual guys that are doing, you know, your detectives, your cops that are beat cops and stuff.

01:55:55.000 I completely agree that there are plenty of DAs, there are plenty of leftists that have been, you know, that have had their campaigns that were funded by, you know, leftist organizations or what have you that have been elected.

01:56:08.000 And you see those, you've seen some of those people get recalled.

01:56:11.000 And that's another thing that, another thing that I, another reason why I think that it wouldn't happen on such a broad scale.

01:56:17.000 In the U.S., and I think that's my point.

01:56:19.000 I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but it would be a whole systemic failure because I think that individual cops will not allow it.

01:56:27.000 I think that, yeah, detectives won't just turn blind.

01:56:31.000 I think that there would be a lot of people that would quit, they would be whistleblowers here in the U.S.

01:56:35.000 I do think in America, like in the United States, I do agree with you.

01:56:41.000 If this was happening in a broad enough scale, there would be a cop, he would go on a podcast, like he would blow the whistle, and you would have.

01:56:51.000 Higher levels of authority that would absolutely take that seriously.

01:56:54.000 So I do agree with that.

01:56:56.000 But I wouldn't be surprised if in Minneapolis, if the foster care workers and stuff like that were already facilitated.

01:57:05.000 Yeah, I would agree with that as well.

01:57:06.000 It's possible that it would happen on a smaller scale.

01:57:09.000 In the UK, I think the point of the report was to show that didn't matter how high up you went, no one could.

01:57:17.000 Up to Keir Starmer himself.

01:57:18.000 Up to the prime minister himself.

01:57:21.000 All right.

01:57:21.000 So who is this one?

01:57:27.000 Leonard.

01:57:28.000 Leonard's.

01:57:29.000 Leonard says, are we watching the greatest marketing scheme ever with Anthropic and their Mythos Fable 5 models?

01:57:35.000 Or do you think they really built something that's truly dangerous?

01:57:38.000 So, like I was talking to Tim last night, the unique thing about Fable is when you give it like the ability to hack is emergent because you give an AI a really, really comprehensive ability to reason and you give it a really comprehensive ability.

01:57:56.000 Ability to code those two things together create an ability to hack.

01:58:01.000 It's not like they created it saying we're going to make this thing able to hack, right?

01:58:06.000 That ability, the ability to hack into computer systems, it takes reasoning and it takes a really deep understanding of code.

01:58:14.000 Uh, I don't think that it's a marketing ploy, I think that Fable probably is incredibly good at hacking.

01:58:22.000 I use Sonnet all the time with my AI, right?

01:58:25.000 Like, I got an AI bot, most of you guys know, I call him Tank.

01:58:30.000 And he, I use Fable, or no, I'm sorry, I use Sonnet because it's not as expensive as the, what was the newest one?

01:58:39.000 Opus.

01:58:40.000 Opus.

01:58:40.000 Yeah, it's not as expensive as Opus.

01:58:41.000 And it's pretty comprehensive.

01:58:43.000 Like it's pretty good.

01:58:46.000 So I do think that it's probably as capable as they say it is.

01:58:52.000 They didn't start Project Glasswing for no reason.

01:58:55.000 I don't think that they would have given it to companies to test out if it was just about marketing.

01:59:01.000 And if it was just about marketing, these companies would pro someone in the companies would have been like, 'This is not a big deal.' There would be people talking about it, and you're not hearing that.

01:59:09.000 Um, so no, I don't think that it's a marketing club.

01:59:12.000 Do you guys have takes on this?

01:59:13.000 I've got an interesting riff off what you just said, and something I thought was very interesting in the Trump administration's response.

01:59:20.000 So, if you look at the, you know, I think it was Lutnik, I think it was the Commerce Department that put the restrictions on the product.

01:59:30.000 What was really interesting about it is, and part of the reason they had to recall it, was that they placed an export saying no foreigner could get access to this, including foreign nationals within Anthropic.

01:59:44.000 What was really interesting to me about that is that a model to force these companies to hire American?

01:59:52.000 Because, like, if you're going to, if these AI models are going to be the point where we're not going to allow, is that an opportunity for the Trump administration to force these AI companies that are in many cases have CCP, like known, I mean, like, you know, huge percentages of these companies are foreign citizens?

02:00:10.000 Is this a way for the Trump administration to force these companies to hire American?

02:00:13.000 I thought that was just an interesting little aspect of it that I thought got overlooked by a lot of people.

02:00:19.000 You know, when I'm looking at this, common sense wise, it's like, okay, the dam is breaking.

02:00:25.000 The water looks like it's all going to spill out.

02:00:27.000 And they're like, hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:00:29.000 Fix that patch in the dam.

02:00:30.000 And I'm like, the dam's still breaking under its own weight. 1.00

02:00:35.000 I think, what are they, even if it's all Americans at Anthropic, why wouldn't the guy just dropbox the code to like a Chinese? 1.00

02:00:43.000 How can you stop this at this point? 0.96

02:00:45.000 It was totally available for like two days. 0.99

02:00:48.000 People made videos about like, yo, use this shit now because it's going to be. 0.98

02:00:53.000 You know, it's probably going to be gone. 0.99

02:00:55.000 Uh, people anticipated this would happen.

02:00:57.000 My buddy, so powerful.

02:00:58.000 My buddy works deep, deep military tech intelligence, and he's like, Yo, bro, the people are freaking out about how to counter quantum cryptographic breakage.

02:01:08.000 Things are figuring out at the quantum scale how to break cryptography.

02:01:12.000 So they're trying to counter it.

02:01:13.000 It's like, How do you counter a hypersonic tungsten rod that's coming straight down from orbit?

02:01:19.000 So that's the thing about ballistics.

02:01:20.000 They're kind of hard to counter.

02:01:21.000 You know, you're always kind of on your back foot, and the more explosive, forward moving things kind of take.

02:01:27.000 Take precedence.

02:01:28.000 I feel like that's what AI is right now.

02:01:30.000 Jesus, I don't want to get dark pilled on this right now.

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