Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - FBI Authorized LETHAL FORCE AGAINST TRUMP At Mar-A-Lago Raid w-Bradley Devlin | Timcast IRL

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00:00:25.000 this may be one of the most shocking stories we've gotten in a long time it

00:00:41.000 It is huge news.

00:00:42.000 The FBI authorized the use of lethal force against Donald Trump and his security personnel at his property during the Mar-a-Lago raid.

00:00:50.000 And to make it worse, the FBI agents were instructed to be in unmarked clothing.

00:00:57.000 I feel like this was an attempt at violence, like they were trying to provoke Trump.

00:01:03.000 This raid was unnecessary.

00:01:04.000 We've seen with, say, the raid on Roger Stone at four in the morning, this excessive use of force.

00:01:11.000 I think they're intentionally trying to incite something.

00:01:14.000 Some have suggested this was a passive assassination attempt.

00:01:19.000 You do not need, ever, in any capacity, to authorize lethal force against a former president for any reason.

00:01:27.000 It just makes no sense.

00:01:29.000 And this is now coming out in Newsweek, Politico, the documents are being dropped all over Twitter, confirmed news, they did this.

00:01:39.000 This is insane.

00:01:39.000 We're going to talk about that.

00:01:40.000 Plus, in the Trump hush money trial, the defense has arrested after one day, and it was already nuts yesterday when the judge was like screaming, yelling at one of the witnesses.

00:01:51.000 This does not seem like a real trial.

00:01:53.000 And now, questions, of course, as to what is actually going to happen this November.

00:01:58.000 And I want to give a shout out to our good friend Bill Maher over at his show, because he called Joe Biden cadaver-like and Dracula on The View.

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00:04:30.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Bradley Devlin.

00:04:34.000 Hi guys, Bradley Devlin, political editor at the American Conservative.

00:04:37.000 Happy to be here on a great show and in a super awesome studio.

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00:04:52.000 No, this is great.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, a lot of people were saying the last studio, I thought it was really small, and it was longer, but now this room is actually evened out and big, which gave us a little echo problem, but you know, we're there.

00:05:05.000 So thanks for hanging out, Bradley.

00:05:06.000 We got Phil hanging out.

00:05:07.000 Hello, everybody.

00:05:08.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:05:09.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:05:13.000 All That Remains?

00:05:14.000 My goodness.

00:05:14.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:05:16.000 Hello, Hannah Clare.

00:05:17.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:05:19.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com, Scanner News.

00:05:21.000 I'm really grateful to be part of that team.

00:05:23.000 Hi, Serge!

00:05:24.000 Hello, Hannah-Claire.

00:05:24.000 I'm Serge.

00:05:25.000 I'm ready to start when you are, Tim.

00:05:26.000 Here we go.

00:05:27.000 From the post-millennial revealed, Biden's FBI authorized use of deadly force when necessary during a Mar-a-Lago raid. Law

00:05:36.000 enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary. It's a

00:05:40.000 direct quote from the documents. I'll back it up. We got Newsweek. FBI was prepared to use deadly

00:05:46.000 force at Mar-a-Lago raid. The reason why these two headlines are important and they are different is

00:05:51.000 that not only did they authorize the FBI to use lethal force, but they showed up with the

00:05:56.000 weapons ready and capable to do so.

00:05:59.000 And now we'll add one more on top. In this filing, this document released by Julie Kelly,

00:06:06.000 we can see in the document it says, law enforcement officers,

00:06:09.000 the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary.

00:06:12.000 The agents planned to bring standard issue weapons, ammo, handcuffs, and medium and large size bolt cutters, but they were instructed to wear unmarked polo or collared shirts and to keep law enforcement equipment concealed.

00:06:27.000 I'm going to tell you my opinions right away.

00:06:28.000 There is no competent human who does this without the expectation this could lead to death, to an active shootout between the Secret Service and unmarked law enforcement agents.

00:06:44.000 We all remember the story of... What was that woman's name?

00:06:51.000 I can't remember her name.

00:06:52.000 They claim that she was sleeping in her bed and she was shot by the cops.

00:06:56.000 Breonna Taylor.

00:06:57.000 There you go.

00:06:57.000 I knew it was Breonna, but I'm like, which Breonna was it?

00:07:01.000 Now they say that the police didn't announce themselves or whatever.

00:07:04.000 They say they did, regardless of the fact.

00:07:08.000 of that case.

00:07:08.000 I believe, you know, we've actually interviewed one of the cops involved and they did announce themselves.

00:07:12.000 They knocked and then, you know, the guy shot at them.

00:07:14.000 I'm only bringing this story up because the left's perspective on it was that she was sleeping in her bed and these cops didn't announce themselves and opened fire on her.

00:07:22.000 That means it is well established in the psyche of your liberals, of your Democrats, that police officers who show up to enforce the law but are not wearing identifiable outfits create the perception of a burglary or a robbery or an assault attack.

00:07:39.000 This had the potential, the high potential, in my opinion, to result in Trump security guards.

00:07:45.000 I was just at Mar-a-Lago, I'll tell you, and Secret Service.

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:49.000 Not being aware of what was going on and seeing a dude in plain clothes with a gun rushing onto the property.

00:07:55.000 You might be thinking like, hey, hey, who's this guy?

00:07:57.000 And the guy, we're lucky it did not escalate to this.

00:08:00.000 Yeah.

00:08:01.000 Many people on social media are already saying this was an assassination attempt.

00:08:05.000 Could you imagine if what could have happened if this went the way of what one of these stories we hear in the press where you know cops who don't identify themselves end up getting into shootouts? 1.00

00:08:15.000 I almost think that either these people are as stupid as stupid can be or they were crossing their fingers that they would get a news report of Trump security opens fire on FBI. 1.00

00:08:25.000 Do they think that Donald Trump is like Like Scarface? 1.00

00:08:29.000 Because you know that the only people that are going to be actually engaging with them, if there were to be a gunfight, it would be Secret Service.

00:08:36.000 It would be FBI versus Secret Service.

00:08:39.000 Because Donald Trump ain't going to be there with a machine gun, like, come and get me.

00:08:43.000 So the idea that it was like to... I don't understand why the Department of Justice would say, We're allowing you to get into a gunfight.

00:08:56.000 We're saying it's acceptable for you to get into a gunfight with the Secret Service.

00:08:59.000 Because, again, it's not Donald Trump.

00:09:02.000 They could just call the Secret Service and say, we're going to have some, two FBI agents are going to come down and we're going to do a sweep.

00:09:07.000 And they would have been like, you got it.

00:09:09.000 Yeah, no questions asked.

00:09:10.000 And one other thing, shout out Julie Kelly.

00:09:13.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:09:14.000 Her work has been invaluable on everything, whether it was 2020 election related or it was, you know, the Trump trials related.

00:09:22.000 I mean, she's been on fire with this stuff.

00:09:24.000 And that's, we were talking a little bit about it before the show, like, who do you think is there?

00:09:29.000 Oh, it's the Secret Service.

00:09:30.000 Right. We had heard reports in the past that Secret Service had coordinated with Trump and with the DOJ and with the

00:09:39.000 archives about this documents problem.

00:09:42.000 Now we need to know exactly what the Secret Service knew, because if the Secret Service didn't know anything, I mean...

00:09:48.000 I think these documents prove they didn't because there's a line in one of them, if I'm not, if I'm remembering

00:09:53.000 correctly, where it says, you know, if the U.S.

00:09:56.000 Secret Service resists, like, here's how to proceed.

00:09:59.000 They talk about the possibility that the Secret Service are not working with them.

00:10:02.000 Now, maybe that's to account for A potential agent who's like, hey, I don't believe in this, but really it seems like they were operating completely independently than this other government agency, and the only reason they would do that is to have the element of surprise.

00:10:15.000 Now, again, what are we expecting?

00:10:17.000 Donald Trump to be there, you know, armed and dangerous, ready to defend his territory?

00:10:21.000 That doesn't seem like it, however cool that visual might be to some people.

00:10:25.000 The reality is they treated him like a hostile mob member because that's how they perceive him.

00:10:31.000 They believe that he is incredibly dangerous and that he is, you know, capable of harming people in a crazy way, when in fact they are setting up a situation that could become incredibly dangerous quickly.

00:10:44.000 And like Tim is saying, this is a narrative that everyone on the left repeats all the time.

00:10:49.000 If you have a plainclothes officer who doesn't identify themselves, they actually, theoretically, in the minds of the left, create the dangerous situation.

00:10:56.000 Now why would you send all of these people in in unmarked polos? 1.00

00:10:59.000 What are we trying to accomplish here?

00:11:01.000 I think the defense will be from the other side of the aisle from the Biden administration.

00:11:04.000 Oh, well, you know, he's a former president.

00:11:06.000 So we didn't want to seem like we were just swarming Mar-a-Lago.

00:11:09.000 Except we all know, we all saw the videos.

00:11:11.000 This is exactly what they wanted it to seem like.

00:11:13.000 Because again, to them, Trump is a corrupt mod boss who they have the right to stand up against.

00:11:17.000 They're not based in reality. 0.88

00:11:19.000 They're based in their own delusion.

00:11:21.000 Any sane operation against a former president, like they go to Joe Biden's house, they find documents.

00:11:27.000 Honest question.

00:11:28.000 Are they going to have in those in those warrants for the searching of Joe Biden's properties, use of lethal force?

00:11:34.000 I really doubt it.

00:11:35.000 I doubt it.

00:11:36.000 And if they do, wow, then we need to then then all the criticisms of the FBI are warranted.

00:11:42.000 The idea that they have to worry about a former president who's under Secret Service, they can't go to the Secret Service and say, OK, hey, guys, we're going to be I'm assuming they even inform the Secret Service, right?

00:11:52.000 There's no, there's no justification for the bringing of weapons and the use of deadly force in this capacity.

00:11:57.000 None whatsoever.

00:11:58.000 It could have only have resulted in something devastating to this country.

00:12:01.000 If it, if, I mean, they open the door to unmarked law enforcement showing up.

00:12:07.000 Let's say Trump's security at Mar-a-Lago had no idea.

00:12:11.000 And that with lack of communication, a fight breaks out.

00:12:14.000 Somebody gets shot, a shootout ensues.

00:12:16.000 What do you think would happen to this country if the news reports came out saying FBI and Trump security are in an active gunfight?

00:12:22.000 This would, it would, I don't know, what were they hoping for?

00:12:27.000 Like to escalate some kind of January 6th type scenario?

00:12:30.000 I don't know.

00:12:31.000 I assume that, I mean, maybe like you were saying, Hannah-Claire, maybe it's that they

00:12:36.000 were expecting or anticipating the possibility of Secret Service being loyal to Trump. 0.95

00:12:43.000 But even still, it just seems so ridiculous.

00:12:46.000 And they could have told them then, right? 0.63

00:12:48.000 If they thought he was loyal to Trump, they should have informed them ahead of time to, again, prevent any kind of violence.

00:12:53.000 Yeah, I just, I feel like they, I feel like this all would have been just simply an interagency phone call.

00:13:00.000 Yeah.

00:13:01.000 Hey, we're, you know, these things are, you know, we're going to come and get these things.

00:13:03.000 They may have done that.

00:13:04.000 Because blah, blah, blah.

00:13:05.000 Maybe.

00:13:06.000 I don't know.

00:13:06.000 How much did the president know?

00:13:08.000 You have two portions of the executive branch potentially getting to a shootout with one another in this situation.

00:13:17.000 Merrick Garland has to contact the big guy, right?

00:13:20.000 Presumably.

00:13:22.000 Presumably.

00:13:22.000 So what does the president know about this situation?

00:13:25.000 Sounds like Republicans in Congress might have some interest in subpoenaing No, Republicans in Congress are stupid and terrible. 1.00

00:13:34.000 They should ask for answers for sure. 1.00

00:13:36.000 But the other part of this is that we know that the Biden administration is somewhat dysfunctional.

00:13:40.000 I mean, how could the defense secretary go missing for like a week and not tell anyone unless it's normal for people to go offline and not tell Biden what's going on?

00:13:50.000 Either way, this doesn't paint a good picture for the Biden administration.

00:13:54.000 And there are parts of it where I want to say, like, I saw some reports, you know, pointing out that there was a medic on scene, that part of the filing points out, like, if anything happens, you'll go to this hospital.

00:14:02.000 And if we're giving them benefit of the doubt, let's say that's just standard protocol.

00:14:06.000 If you're going to authorize this type of force, then you have to have a plan for this kind of thing.

00:14:10.000 But The fact that this was just a conversation, everybody was like, well, obviously there's a chance that this kind of force could be necessary, is bizarre to me.

00:14:19.000 And again, I can't help but stress, I think this shows how deranged people are when it comes to Donald Trump.

00:14:25.000 And that puts a lot of people in danger.

00:14:28.000 It puts anyone who supports him into a level, it makes them vulnerable to a level of scrutiny that nobody else is.

00:14:34.000 That's beyond rationality.

00:14:37.000 Yes.

00:14:38.000 Thank you.

00:14:41.000 It's a worrying headline, you know, and part of me is like, I know a lot of people are constantly concerned about what's going to happen this November.

00:14:50.000 There's a lot of people who live, it's really fascinating, if you say, if you report on a story like this and just show the document where they were showing up with standard issue weapons, ammo, and the preparation and authorization to use deadly force, There, people are going to get mad.

00:15:04.000 They're going to be like, this is crazy.

00:15:06.000 You shouldn't talk about this.

00:15:06.000 You're fanning the flames.

00:15:08.000 You're encouraging civil war. 0.87

00:15:09.000 If you don't talk about it, then you get people who are being like, why aren't you talking about the important issues?

00:15:14.000 It's just, people are going to get mad no matter what.

00:15:19.000 And the challenge, I suppose, is knowing when these stories are flash, when it's a flash in the pan, or are we really inching towards some kind of actual catastrophe?

00:15:30.000 I feel like You know, in the winter things get slow.

00:15:35.000 Things in the winter get abstract.

00:15:38.000 You hear a lot of words from politicians, and there's a lot of news related to the social goings-on.

00:15:44.000 And then in the summer things get physical, and you hear more news related to physical actions, riots, protests, etc.

00:15:50.000 But it does seem like a lot of people seem to forget over the winter months.

00:15:55.000 It's like, in the summer, it's like, this is crazy.

00:15:57.000 How can this country withstand this?

00:15:59.000 Oh man, 2024 is going to get nuts.

00:16:01.000 The news is going to be crazy.

00:16:02.000 Then winter comes and everyone's like, you know, things are kind of all right.

00:16:04.000 Springtime comes.

00:16:05.000 Everybody's going out and it's like, it's Friday night.

00:16:08.000 We're going to go to the bar and we're going to chill.

00:16:09.000 And the news gets a little dry.

00:16:12.000 And then everyone's like, why did anyone think things were bad in this country?

00:16:14.000 And then they're like, oh, here's a release of documents showing that they had authorized a deadly force against the former president.

00:16:19.000 And you're like, Oh, that's why.

00:16:21.000 Yeah.

00:16:22.000 You mentioned November.

00:16:22.000 I mean, this does seem like a gut check to the normies, especially the normies who hold out on Trump because they are afraid that the 45th president is constantly, always, and everywhere breaking every constitutional norm possible.

00:16:37.000 And then they make some argument about our democracy.

00:16:42.000 These documents prove that the Biden administration, the so-called adults that were

00:16:47.000 supposed to be in the room, right, the so-called return to normal, basically means effectively

00:16:52.000 that the Constitution is a dead letter, right? Because either the executive of this country

00:16:56.000 has been vested with the executive power and powers and duties that correspond with it or not.

00:17:01.000 And very clearly, the government is operating off of the assumption that the president has no

00:17:07.000 authority whatsoever.

00:17:09.000 So, like, if you actually do want to reinstall a semblance of constitutional order, maybe, just maybe, you give another guy a chance.

00:17:17.000 And, you know, we saw that in the last six months of the Trump administration, where they tried to throw it out against him.

00:17:23.000 Remember when Mark Milley contacted his Chinese counterpart and said, I'd give you a heads up if we're going to attack?

00:17:30.000 Like, at least Trump fought tooth and nail.

00:17:33.000 He wasn't always successful.

00:17:34.000 He didn't always have the personnel to best help him do it.

00:17:37.000 But at least he, like, has a gut instinct for, I am the president of the United States and therefore preside over the executive branch.

00:17:44.000 And that actually is, you know, regardless of any law degree that Biden may or may not have gotten, like, that seems more constitutional than any sort of constitutionalism that Biden and his administration is putting forward at the moment.

00:18:00.000 Well, let's jump to the next big breaking story as it pertains to Donald Trump.

00:18:03.000 The hush money trials entered its new phase after the defense rests without testimony from the former president.

00:18:10.000 I can't say I'm very surprised, but the Trump defense team had half a day.

00:18:17.000 Was it half a day of defense?

00:18:18.000 That was it?

00:18:19.000 They called two witnesses, that was it.

00:18:20.000 Yeah, and the judge lost his mind.

00:18:23.000 So the big story here, which we didn't really talk about too much yesterday, But I think actually is, um... Well, it's, it's, it's a bit shocking.

00:18:33.000 Are you staring me down?

00:18:35.000 Furious judge clears courtroom after Trump defense witness sighs and rolls eyes.

00:18:40.000 You know what I think?

00:18:41.000 Okay, so here's the story real quick.

00:18:42.000 They called Robert Costello, who completely obliterated the prosecution's case.

00:18:48.000 Former lawyer, or legal advisor, depending on the reports, they, you know, some reports say he was a lawyer.

00:18:53.000 For Cohen, saying Cohen had nothing, Cohen said he would lie, Cohen did this of his own volition, and what we learned from this is that if the defense is telling the truth, Cohen stole around a quarter of a million dollars in the Trump Organization without Trump knowing.

00:19:07.000 The reimbursement for Stormy Daniels, Trump didn't know about.

00:19:10.000 The $30K he stole and pocketed from the money that was supposed to go to Red Finch, Trump didn't know about.

00:19:15.000 The tax reimbursement, they didn't know about.

00:19:16.000 The tax reimbursement also shows that they thought they were just paying Cohen for his labor.

00:19:22.000 Here's your labor plus additional for any tax liability that you may incur due to, you know, taking care of these things or paying for services.

00:19:33.000 And they had no idea.

00:19:34.000 Now that's if the defense is telling the truth.

00:19:36.000 When Costello comes in to testify, the judge basically refuses to allow him. 0.99

00:19:40.000 Which is crazy considering they let Stormy Daniels effectively accuse Trump of raping her, but then Costello comes up and says, I was his lawyer, here's what happened, and they're just like, shut your mouth.

00:19:48.000 The judge actually yells at him, Like, it is unheard of.

00:19:53.000 All these political commentators and pundits on TV are like, a judge yelling at a witness?

00:19:58.000 This is crazy!

00:20:00.000 Clearly, what I see is Judge Murshan, he's on the side of the prosecution.

00:20:05.000 No question.

00:20:07.000 This is not a real trial.

00:20:08.000 And correct me if I'm wrong, but Murshan was appointed for this?

00:20:12.000 It wasn't through the traditional judicial process?

00:20:15.000 I can't remember off the top of my mind.

00:20:21.000 I might be getting my wires crossed here, but I know that Judge McAfee in Georgia presiding over the Fulton County case, he was appointed, and this is his first time going up for re-election.

00:20:36.000 So this is it.

00:20:36.000 The Trump team has rested.

00:20:39.000 They've rested their case.

00:20:40.000 And now what's going to happen is I think the judge says he's going to give instructions to the jury on Thursday.

00:20:45.000 And then they're going to reconvene on Tuesday for closing arguments.

00:20:48.000 I could be wrong because initially they said they would reconvene next week.

00:20:52.000 Yeah, they're going to reconvene on the 28th.

00:20:54.000 So what the judge said was because we have Memorial Day coming up on Monday, we're going and the defense is rested.

00:20:59.000 Rather than have, you know, start summations now and have it get interrupted by the end of the court day, we're going to wait.

00:21:05.000 You guys are going to come back.

00:21:06.000 You're going to hear from both the defense and the prosecution back to back.

00:21:10.000 I'll give you your instructions for the day that we think it'll take about an hour.

00:21:14.000 And he says basically he doesn't think they'll start deliberating until the 29th, which is Wednesday.

00:21:18.000 And he's saying it's to prevent a long gap between, you know, the end of summations and deliberations, which makes sense.

00:21:26.000 Initially, when I was reading it, I was sort of like, but you are creating kind of a long gap here.

00:21:30.000 I guess we can't avoid it because tomorrow's Wednesday.

00:21:33.000 They're typically off on Wednesdays.

00:21:34.000 You know, hypothetically, they could have summations on Thursday and start deliberations on Friday, but I guess that's not how he wants to handle it.

00:21:42.000 You know, this whole case is really interesting to me Because so much of it just completely rested on the shoulders of Michael Cohen.

00:21:51.000 Michael Cohen who's been convicted of lying under oath and of campaign finance and tax evasion.

00:21:56.000 So he's got a background of financial crime and he's been convicted of lying and unsurprisingly yesterday he was once again like yes I am a thief and a liar and This is what the New York state had.

00:22:11.000 There are other reports that talk about the fact that this case has come up and different people, including Allen Bragg's office, had been like, well, we're not going to take it.

00:22:18.000 We're not going to take it.

00:22:18.000 They didn't take it until the end when there were all these other cases up against Trump.

00:22:21.000 And I think that's because it's obviously not a great position to be in.

00:22:27.000 I just don't know that Michael Cohen is the compelling link that they needed him to be to make this work.

00:22:33.000 I don't think that, well I mean, I don't think Michael Cohen is a compelling link to make it work.

00:22:38.000 I think that's probably...

00:22:40.000 Pretty clear.

00:22:42.000 I don't think that they ever had a strong case in the first place.

00:22:46.000 And I think that that's kind of the situation with all of the cases.

00:22:49.000 We were talking before the show started about just the overall situation as to how all of the legal stuff is panning out against Trump.

00:22:57.000 None of it is going the way that any of the Democrats would have expected, I think.

00:23:01.000 And I think that if they look back now and they look back and they're like, these probably should not have happened, we shouldn't have gone Gone through with all of the, all of this legal, um, all of the, the, the lawfare because it's not, it's not working out.

00:23:15.000 And these, the results are generally making people sympathetic to Trump.

00:23:20.000 One thing that was particularly revealing about Costello's testimony to Congress, when Cohen was on the stand, Costello was on Capitol Hill talking to the Weaponization Subcommittee in a hearing about lawfare, and basically explaining that lawfare isn't always the court cases that end up on the docket.

00:23:38.000 It's not always front-page news.

00:23:41.000 It's dangling a judgeship here or a pardon here in that smoke-filled room, right?

00:23:46.000 All of those really funny tropes about what politics actually is.

00:23:50.000 And Costello and his fellow witnesses kind of pointed out like, yeah, to a certain extent, that's true.

00:23:58.000 And so for me, right, I'm looking at this, regardless of how it pans out, because I think you and I agree, like, no one can actually read the tea leaves at this point on what damage this is doing to Trump and the damage it's actually doing to Biden's reputation.

00:24:13.000 But one thing is abundantly clear, and that's the Democrats view the process as the punishment.

00:24:21.000 I heard this funny comment today that was like, what's the one thing Ed Snowden, Assange, and Trump have in common?

00:24:32.000 Not just a broad meta-narrative, but a very concrete thing.

00:24:35.000 It's like all three of them charged with the Espionage Act.

00:24:38.000 Right?

00:24:38.000 Like, you think Snowden and Julian Assange, like, oh, that tracks, you know, both smuggling state secrets or whatever, you know?

00:24:44.000 Of course not, actually.

00:24:47.000 But Trump, with the documents case, charged with the Espionage Act.

00:24:52.000 And so all that is to say, like, the state has been so clear in punishing those two men, Edward Snowden and Julian Assange, through a process, right?

00:25:01.000 You see the Assange update earlier this week.

00:25:04.000 It's the same exact way for Trump.

00:25:05.000 And it's the same exact way for The attorneys that were in Trump's camp that were making, I think, pretty common sense legal arguments about the 2020 election and about possible improprieties and where the president's role is in correcting that, right?

00:25:17.000 And the president's authority to interpret the Constitution for himself?

00:25:22.000 Yes!

00:25:22.000 Like, legislators and the executive and the Supreme Court all have the authority to interpret the Constitution.

00:25:28.000 How else are we going to make laws or policies in this country if all three branches of government don't do that?

00:25:33.000 But, you know, all that is to say is that those lawyers involved in the Trump case, like The point was to punish the lawyers through the process, know that maybe they're not going to get convictions against them, and also to scare off any sort of legal help that Trump could give in the future.

00:25:54.000 Right, and it's to damage their reputations.

00:25:55.000 Exactly.

00:25:55.000 Because I think you're right.

00:25:55.000 So much of this is about, just like for Trump, the punishment being the process, meaning he's not on the campaign trail.

00:26:01.000 And then we heard this over and over again.

00:26:02.000 Well, Donald Trump, you know, Joe Biden's out campaigning for stuff and Donald Trump's in a courtroom.

00:26:07.000 Because you guys put him there and I think Trump did a pretty good job or at least his campaign did of being like, well, then we're going to use make New York the center of this whole thing.

00:26:15.000 We're going to be at fire stations.

00:26:16.000 We're going to hold rallies more locally to kind of combat that but ultimately.

00:26:22.000 I don't know that the effect of sort of demonizing anyone who is tangentially related to Donald Trump, either directly or just through someone through a legal case or whatever, had the intended effect for voters.

00:26:35.000 I think ultimately people are starting to feel fatigued, and I think a lot of people are more fearful of the government than Democrats really realize, and seeing the weight of having So many governments, state and federal, come after you is actually something I think that makes Donald Trump sympathetic to the voter because they couldn't handle it, right?

00:26:56.000 They don't have the financial resources or the influence that Donald Trump has.

00:27:00.000 If the government did this to you, you would be in a worse off position.

00:27:02.000 And so they don't want this kind of thing to be playing out over and over again.

00:27:05.000 I mean, it's weird when you've got even Bill Maher being like, yeah, Biden's a cadaver, this is it.

00:27:11.000 USA Today runs an op-ed from some guy being like, yeah, Biden's got to drop out.

00:27:16.000 There's no reality in which any sane person thinks Biden's an actual viable candidate.

00:27:21.000 So once again, the only thing they have is orange man bad.

00:27:25.000 Only at this point, inflation is so apocalyptic.

00:27:29.000 If you are a new voter, if you're a Gen Z voter, and you were 18 in 2019, You have felt the sting of Biden's economic policies more than most people.

00:27:40.000 I'm 38.

00:27:40.000 It's been four years, and we've seen prices go up.

00:27:44.000 I only get Taco Bell every so often, but yeah, those prices have gone up.

00:27:48.000 It's kind of surprising.

00:27:51.000 So I've seen economic changes.

00:27:53.000 I've been almost 40 years now.

00:27:56.000 But if you're 22, This is your adult life.

00:28:01.000 You're 18.

00:28:02.000 You're now looking for some part-time work.

00:28:04.000 Maybe you had part-time work when you were young.

00:28:05.000 But I mean, like, now you're 18.

00:28:06.000 You're an adult.

00:28:07.000 You got more responsibility.

00:28:08.000 You gotta start paying the bills.

00:28:09.000 And you see a dollar cheeseburger.

00:28:12.000 Four years later, that same cheeseburger, on average, is now somewhere around four bucks.

00:28:17.000 So it's like your money is being cut in half, you know, every other year or so.

00:28:22.000 I mean, so this is, yeah, your money halves every two years.

00:28:27.000 Did you see that thing that McDonald's is rolling out the $5 menu, but it has to be subsidized by Coke because they just can't keep prices?

00:28:33.000 Wait, subsidized by, like, so Coke is... So they're partnering with Coke and Coke is kicking in several million dollars so they can offer for one month, like, $5 meals, right?

00:28:42.000 Like, you can get a McChicken or a burger or whatever else for $5.

00:28:45.000 But actually, like, they can't actually offer to you for $5 because inflation is so high.

00:28:50.000 Okay, so first of all, the market provides.

00:28:53.000 Second of all, that's insane that the market has to do that.

00:28:56.000 That the average meal from McDonald's is over $5 now.

00:29:01.000 I mean, obviously it's about the value of the currency, and it's because of all the printing of money.

00:29:07.000 And I'm going to do it again.

00:29:08.000 Here we go.

00:29:10.000 Like, over a hundred trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities.

00:29:14.000 A trillion dollars every hundred days.

00:29:18.000 Remember, a trillion seconds ago was 30,000 years before Christ.

00:29:23.000 Like, these numbers are absolutely beyond human comprehension.

00:29:28.000 Like, most people don't understand it.

00:29:30.000 And unless they do something about the unfunded liabilities, unless they do something about Medicare and Medicaid, they're going to blow up the dollar.

00:29:37.000 It is absolutely, there is no question that it will happen.

00:29:42.000 I hope that Phil says unfunded liabilities is on the official Tim Cass bingo card now.

00:29:46.000 It could be either, you know, it could be, uh, it's unfunded liabilities or, uh, not discretionary spending is the stuff that they can, mandatory spending, unfunded liabilities or mandatory spending, same stuff.

00:29:55.000 Okay.

00:29:55.000 You make the bingo card.

00:29:56.000 That's what Phil wants.

00:29:57.000 We have this, uh, we have this image that's been going around.

00:30:00.000 It's been going viral on X and I posted it with a holy ish.

00:30:04.000 I knew Bidenflation was bad, but I didn't realize how bad.

00:30:07.000 And you can see McDonald's price increases.

00:30:09.000 Now they've chosen some select locations, but it's Chick-fil-A's website, it's Taco Bell's website, and then they use the McDonald's app for the LA Figueroa Street location for their sources.

00:30:22.000 In 2019, a medium french fry was $1.79.

00:30:24.000 Now it's $4.19.

00:30:28.000 A McChicken was $1.29, now it's $3.89.

00:30:31.000 Yo, I got news for everybody, right?

00:30:34.000 When I order a McChicken, which I don't these days, but when I did, it's because I did not have money.

00:30:39.000 And if I'm going to eat anything like a McChicken, it's because I don't have money.

00:30:45.000 But if I have $4, I certainly don't want to eat a McChicken.

00:30:49.000 Now that it's four bucks, it's like they're trying to make it, that's crazy.

00:30:53.000 A Big Mac was $3.99, now it's $7.49.

00:30:56.000 10 McNuggets was $4.49, it's $7.58.

00:30:59.000 A cheeseburger was a buck, now it's $3.15.

00:31:02.000 Now a lot of people have said, well yeah, but you're talking about L.A., you know, L.A.' 's expensive or whatever.

00:31:07.000 It's like, okay, how about the Taco Bell website?

00:31:10.000 How about the Chick-fil-A website?

00:31:11.000 This is their website.

00:31:13.000 Look at this.

00:31:14.000 A beefy burrito.

00:31:15.000 $1.69.

00:31:17.000 Now it's $3.69.

00:31:18.000 Two bucks on top.

00:31:20.000 In only a couple of years.

00:31:23.000 Yeah.

00:31:23.000 So we're talking end of 19, so we're talking four and a half years.

00:31:27.000 You're 18, and you have a part-time job.

00:31:30.000 You're trying to go to college.

00:31:31.000 You're buying your beefy five-layer burrito for lunch because you're broke.

00:31:35.000 And now, you've not gotten a raise.

00:31:39.000 Every four years, maybe what?

00:31:40.000 You're making an extra buck an hour, a couple bucks an hour?

00:31:42.000 But now it's two bucks more per burrito.

00:31:44.000 Yep.

00:31:45.000 Are you making that much more per hour?

00:31:49.000 Has your income gone off enough to afford this?

00:31:52.000 There's a great point in there that needs to be pinpointed on.

00:31:57.000 When you have low interest rates like we've had for literally the past decade, interest rates at zero, what that does is it means that people that have good credit, that have money, they get the money first.

00:32:09.000 and then it filters through the economy. They get the money when there's no inflation. They got the money five years

00:32:16.000 ago, four years ago, three years ago, before the inflation really hit

00:32:20.000 and then they went and they bought assets, sometimes they spent the money, blah blah blah

00:32:24.000 but as the money filters into the economy and then the inflation comes

00:32:29.000 because what inflation is is too much money chasing after too

00:32:32.000 few products or too few services.

00:32:35.000 Once the money gets to the average person, that's when the prices rise.

00:32:41.000 So you guys have to pay more money for the prices, but your paycheck hasn't gone up yet.

00:32:50.000 Actual increase in The decrease in the dollar amount hasn't hasn't gotten to you yet.

00:32:56.000 So your money you don't get more money yet You just have to sit there with less valuable dollars.

00:33:01.000 So the people that actually have money your your Banks and wealthy people, they get the money when it's cheap, and they take the loans out when it's cheap, and then the cost gets put onto the poor people.

00:33:16.000 So that's why it's such a massive screwing for the average person when you print money and just give it away, because it goes to the people that don't need it first, and then by the time money actually starts affecting the money supply and inflation happens, the average person is screwed.

00:33:32.000 Yeah, when you're working down the socioeconomic ladder, the that excess capital in the American economy is getting

00:33:39.000 caught up by wealthy people and not put into consumables.

00:33:43.000 Right.

00:33:43.000 So so you end up with increased prices as soon as that capital actually hits the

00:33:48.000 consumables.

00:33:48.000 Also wages are just stickier.

00:33:51.000 Right.

00:33:52.000 This is human interactions.

00:33:53.000 This is bosses and employees.

00:33:55.000 Boss doesn't want to give you a raise. 0.75

00:33:57.000 Employees want a raise.

00:33:58.000 And as the costs go for the boss go up.

00:34:01.000 The last thing the boss wants to do is give the employees a raise.

00:34:04.000 Exactly because their their their margins are getting tighter.

00:34:07.000 So your products.

00:34:09.000 increase in price faster than the wages can. And one thing that I find is really disgusting

00:34:14.000 from places like the Wall Street Journal editorial board or things like that is that, well, you know,

00:34:19.000 if you actually went to college, and I'm gonna... I hate them so much.

00:34:22.000 When you actually, if you went to college in the late Trump years to early Biden years, 0.68

00:34:28.000 you're a debtor. And so be thankful that you took out those massive student loans while your interest

00:34:36.000 rates were low because technically like it's not doesn't work it's not worth as much as it used to

00:34:41.000 Yeah, your debt's devalued, too.

00:34:43.000 That's true, though.

00:34:44.000 It's true.

00:34:44.000 It is true.

00:34:45.000 But your debt's devalued.

00:34:46.000 It's not a great defense, you know?

00:34:48.000 I don't think anyone's going to find this super appealing.

00:34:52.000 But the issue is stagflation.

00:34:53.000 If wages were going up, then it would matter.

00:34:56.000 Exactly.

00:34:57.000 That's right.

00:35:00.000 Your ability to pay back that debt is based on what?

00:35:02.000 Your wages, yeah.

00:35:03.000 Your wages and your ability to earn a living and provide for your family and then pay that debt back, right?

00:35:10.000 Yeah, sure, it might be good.

00:35:11.000 It might devalue your debt, but at the same time, your entire lifestyle is just getting absolutely destroyed.

00:35:18.000 The only people that made out in that is people that got a low-interest home loan right before the inflation and stuff went.

00:35:26.000 If you got a 3% mortgage Yeah, I saw a lot of videos of people being like, we thought this was our starter home, but now it's our forever home because our interest rate is so low.

00:35:46.000 You know, I think higher education is a really interesting issue, and I think that the Biden administration is really going to struggle to deal with it during the campaign.

00:35:56.000 We talk about this a lot, or I bring it up a lot, like Biden keeps saying, oh, I've forgiven all these student loans, but tons are tied up in court.

00:36:02.000 That's inflationary.

00:36:03.000 And also, he hasn't stopped issuing federal student loans.

00:36:06.000 And in fact, so there are tons of, I was just reading this report about how many students are thinking that they're not going to enroll in college because the FAFSA roll, the free application for federal student loans, got so messed up.

00:36:17.000 The fact that there were so many students who don't know what kind of aid they're being offered, or they had to get secondary letters that were like, actually, we offered you an incorrect amount.

00:36:25.000 I mean, The very small area that Biden thought that he would really just like carry and beat Trump, you know, people interested in going to college and who are willing to take out these loans, they haven't done anyone any favors.

00:36:37.000 And it continues to be this message to, I think, young Americans that, you know, you are trying very hard to establish yourselves and potentially start on a strong financial foot.

00:36:47.000 And no matter which way you turn, you cannot do that right now.

00:36:51.000 And I just don't think that brings voters to the polls.

00:36:54.000 The other incentive that the state and institutions of higher education, colleges, universities, what they actually end up subsidizing is more immigration.

00:37:08.000 Because at the end of the day, who's actually making sure that the research universities can continue what they do?

00:37:15.000 It's foreigners. 1.00

00:37:17.000 You think of like the- Well, it could be Americans, but they allow you to bring in 1.00

00:37:20.000 other people.

00:37:20.000 You think of like the archetypical rich Saudi prince who finds his way to Harvard, right?

00:37:26.000 That guy's paying an arm and a leg to go to Harvard.

00:37:29.000 Meanwhile, you have all sorts of discounts, all sorts of scholarships, all sorts of students not

00:37:37.000 actually paying full price for tuition, and the institution basically contracting with the government

00:37:45.000 to get that funding over a longer period of time. And then if the state decides to forgive

00:37:51.000 the loans of the students and continue to pay it out over time, it only incentivizes more and more

00:37:56.000 foreign students coming into our universities and paying an arm and a leg, which like 0.68

00:38:00.000 ultimately, like I saw it on my college campus, like-

00:38:04.000 It crowds out a lot of people from a public university system where I grew up in the state of California when, like, technically their parents have been paying for that, you know, institution of education their entire lives through California taxes, and now they don't have access to it.

00:38:19.000 Because, sorry, it's like financially infeasible for them to actually have Californians go to a Californian public school.

00:38:26.000 Imagine what Social Security is going to be like!

00:38:27.000 Yeah.

00:38:28.000 Oh yeah, that'll be fun.

00:38:30.000 It's a train wreck.

00:38:31.000 It's going to be a massive mess.

00:38:33.000 And this is why, it's one of the reasons why they're flooding the country with non-citizens. 1.00

00:38:36.000 They are desperate to create a labor force that will support the elderly who don't have families and rely on social security.

00:38:42.000 I mean, yeah, I think there's truth to that, but I think that If that's their plan, it's a very, very bad, bad plan that's not going to—it's too little, too late.

00:38:56.000 It's burning the country down to save the country that's on fire.

00:38:58.000 It's horrible.

00:38:59.000 It's a terrible, terrible idea.

00:39:00.000 They admitted that at like a Davos panel, right?

00:39:02.000 Is that what you're talking about?

00:39:03.000 Yeah.

00:39:04.000 I'm speaking generally that they need a labor force because you've got older people who don't have families. 0.92

00:39:10.000 You've got older people who no longer rely on families and their children at all, and they're getting Social Security. 0.52

00:39:15.000 When Social Security stops, it doesn't matter how much money you print.

00:39:19.000 They could just print the money and say, we will pull the debt.

00:39:24.000 And then there's not enough young people producing resources for the elderly.

00:39:29.000 So it's just it's it's that means the system stops instantly overnight.

00:39:34.000 There's a lot of people that are that are currently banking on like AI and automation robots and they're they're they're saying or they're they're even if they aren't saying they're planning on or behaving as if they're planning on super productivity because of automation because of robots, because of AI and stuff. The

00:39:54.000 answer to the production problems is automation. So our answers are immigration, so people who

00:40:00.000 are not encouraging native people to have children, or technology. Like this is a bleak future 0.99

00:40:05.000 here. I don't like this at all.

00:40:07.000 We've sterilized you. Oh, as it turns out, we told you to hate having a family, and we brought in 1.00

00:40:12.000 people that weren't a part of our culture, and they occupy our land, and also maybe technology 1.00

00:40:16.000 It's like, this is doomsday scenario.

00:40:17.000 My analysis is not an endorsement.

00:40:20.000 I'm just saying.

00:40:20.000 No, I don't think it is.

00:40:21.000 I am just saying.

00:40:22.000 I mean, that's what it is.

00:40:24.000 The argument they've made is, you know, bringing people in because they are jobs that the people that live there, currently live here, don't want to do or whatever, and then they're, oh, well, you know, we don't have enough people being born, so we have to have people come into the U.S. 0.98

00:40:36.000 It's funny how immigration's their answer for everything. 0.98

00:40:38.000 I mean, it really is.

00:40:40.000 It's almost like it's on purpose.

00:40:42.000 I don't want to derail or go down the rabbit hole a little too far, but we talked about this underclass or we talked about tech services, AI filling the gap.

00:40:51.000 What do you think that looks like in a country that has decided it's no longer going to reproduce and that it's just going to rely on this permanent underclass of migrants? 0.99

00:40:59.000 It just ceases to exist.

00:41:00.000 Yeah.

00:41:01.000 It's like the movie Elysium.

00:41:04.000 That's a great flick.

00:41:06.000 It's a little on the nose, I guess.

00:41:09.000 The earth is overcrowded, and everyone speaks Spanish, and the rich people live in a floating space station, and they all speak French, and they have machines that can cure any disease, but they've simply decided not to give it to people for no reason.

00:41:23.000 Like, yeah, that's not the reality, but that's the leftist worldview is, they have the cure for all diseases, they just simply don't want you to have it.

00:41:31.000 And it's like, okay, yeah, that's not the case.

00:41:33.000 It's certainly the case to a certain degree that Big Pharma has an incentive on treating symptoms and not diseases.

00:41:39.000 But in this movie, they literally had machines that cured cancer, and they're like, but we won't let you use it for no reason.

00:41:43.000 And then the Liberators come, invade the space, steal everything, reprogram it, and strip them of their wealth and access, and then send all of these med booths down to Earth so that everyone can be cured of their diseases.

00:41:56.000 And then what they don't show you is Elysium 2, and everyone's dead.

00:42:00.000 So basically what happens is, if the United States continues to function this way, with fewer and fewer people of merit and production and who hold the values which made the country what it is, you will end up with an enclave.

00:42:12.000 A small group of people who maintain the traditional values of the United States, believe in meritocracy, are wealthy and successful, and they start building barriers around themselves as they're surrounded by more and more people who do not have the merit and the capability to build a nation.

00:42:25.000 And then, finally, after a certain amount of time, the dam breaks.

00:42:28.000 The 92% of lower-merit individuals who are not part of the culture and don't have the same education destroy what little wealth and access there was, and then you'll end up in a country where you've got mass rapes and farmers being killed and things like this and displaced and weird hokey views about AIDS being a curse and things like that.

00:42:49.000 And none of this takes into account what happens to what the rest of the world does or what other near-peer powers do without the United States having the economic powerhouse behind it that it has had historically.

00:43:02.000 Because the idea that China doesn't do anything or the idea that Russia doesn't do anything in response to the United States having an economic crisis, that's something that I think people Don't take into account when they talk about repercussions of like the dollar crashing or whatever kind of big civil strife or whatever issue you want to you want to use your favorite doomsday scenario in the US people talk about that kind of stuff and they always leave out what the rest of the world does the United States is such a it's such

00:43:34.000 It's so important in the world that everything that happens to the United States actually happens to the whole world.

00:43:40.000 So you don't get things that just happen to the United States.

00:43:43.000 They happen to the world.

00:43:44.000 So if the United States stops being like the global hegemon for whether you think it's good or bad, if it does, that means there are going to be massive reverberations throughout every country on earth, and it's going to change the way that the world behaves.

00:44:00.000 And we have no idea what that means.

00:44:02.000 Do you have any predictions on the economic ripple effect there?

00:44:05.000 I mean, something that I keep an eye on frequently is just how badly we are treating

00:44:13.000 the global south in terms of, like, the developing economies of the global south, right?

00:44:20.000 We have decided that we are going to sanction anyone who we decide to up the wazoo.

00:44:26.000 Sanctions don't really work anyway.

00:44:27.000 Sanctions are an act of war.

00:44:29.000 Exactly.

00:44:30.000 And it doesn't actually lead to the behavior changes that we want to see.

00:44:33.000 And so we just keep doing it.

00:44:35.000 And we decide that we're going to incentivize completely parallel political and financial institutions

00:44:45.000 and systems that are dominated by what country? Of course, China. So I mean

00:44:50.000 I don't have any predictions on what that actually means long-term for the

00:44:53.000 United States. I think I think there was more of an expectation.

00:44:57.000 I thought China would do better post-COVID than it has. 0.62

00:45:01.000 Maybe it's because of their commitment to COVID zero.

00:45:05.000 Economically, you mean?

00:45:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:07.000 I thought they were going to rebound quicker than that, and I've had some scholars tell me that China isn't doing as well as you think it is, but nevertheless, don't empower them when they're showing demographic decline when they're showing economic slowdown by basically incentivizing the entire global south to partner with China, whether it's the Belt and Road Initiative or other types of financial arrangements to skirt around Western sanctions.

00:45:33.000 I imagine any time China can export young men to work, like if they can send them to other countries to work, that's a good thing for China because they have so many young men that, because of the one-child policy, They have an excess of young men, which is one of the things that I've heard people that, you know, people that are experts on international conflict and stuff, one of the things they say is if you've got too many young men, you're headed to war. 0.89

00:45:54.000 Because one of the things historically that's taken care of young men when there aren't women is send them off to war. 0.92

00:46:00.000 Because if you don't do something with your young men and they don't have families, they might overthrow the country. 0.71

00:46:07.000 Like they might just cause a riot.

00:46:09.000 They might tear your whole country down.

00:46:11.000 This was the Sparta problem.

00:46:12.000 Aristotle talks about this in the Politics, where Sparta knew how to wage war, they had policies enacted to favor male childbirth, and then when they finally got to a position where they could make peace, they had no idea how to do it.

00:46:25.000 So what do you think's going to happen to the U.S.

00:46:28.000 in the next year?

00:46:30.000 What do you think's the biggest concern for people or for American politicians right now?

00:46:35.000 Is it geopolitical or is it domestic issues?

00:46:39.000 I think it's geopolitical, just simply because I think the Republican Party demonstrated with the $95 billion supplemental that they actually care about wars in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe more than they care about the border.

00:46:53.000 Like, so if the Republican Party and the establishment is going to be so singularly focused on these two issues, then I, you know, it's a powder keg ready to explode.

00:47:02.000 I wish I could say, like, immigration will be The issue that like galvanizes and draws the most attention, um, and then we can actually solve the issue.

00:47:12.000 But I, you know, just the prospect of World War III, it just feels like he's lurking around every corner.

00:47:17.000 I feel like it would have been the big issue, like immigration would have been the big issue had it not been for October 7th.

00:47:22.000 I feel like last year and last summer, this time, everybody was so very focused on the border.

00:47:25.000 Everyone was so focused on what was going on.

00:47:27.000 I think immigration is still a big issue, even though we had October 7th.

00:47:32.000 It's still one of the biggest issues among voters and Israel doesn't even rank in the top 10.

00:47:36.000 Right.

00:47:37.000 Well, let's jump to the story from Christopher Rufo, who has this Harvard-Harris Caps poll.

00:47:43.000 The pro-Hamas faction is a disaster for the left.

00:47:46.000 The campus protesters, Palestinian Authority, Antifa, and Hamas are four out of the five least popular institutions in a recent Harvard-Harris poll.

00:47:54.000 Take a look at this.

00:47:55.000 Favorability of institutions.

00:47:58.000 I love that Antifa is considered an institution.

00:48:00.000 An institution.

00:48:01.000 No, no, it's just an ideology, they told us.

00:48:04.000 Literally, they're considered terrorists.

00:48:06.000 Antifa is below China. 0.99

00:48:09.000 The Palestinian Authority is above China. 0.98

00:48:11.000 I love this.

00:48:12.000 Take a look at this.

00:48:13.000 The U.S.

00:48:13.000 military, very favorable.

00:48:16.000 I mean, you're talking 83% favorability with 42% very favorable.

00:48:21.000 Very few people are upset with the U.S.

00:48:23.000 military.

00:48:24.000 Police!

00:48:26.000 Look at this one!

00:48:28.000 75% favorability!

00:48:29.000 Only 20% unfavorable.

00:48:32.000 The FBI actually enjoys 56% favorability.

00:48:35.000 That's actually quite amazing.

00:48:37.000 But you go down, Ukraine and Israel, very favorable.

00:48:39.000 U.S.

00:48:40.000 Supreme Court, DOJ, even Fox News!

00:48:42.000 Yeah, like, Fox News.

00:48:44.000 Wow!

00:48:44.000 There's a lot of people on Twitter that think that, like, Israel's, like, really unpopular and that, like, oh, the Israel's gonna be the thing that's gonna mess, you know, gonna, we're gonna stop supporting Israel, the U.S.

00:48:55.000 is gonna blah blah blah.

00:48:56.000 You're wrong!

00:48:56.000 Like, whether, you can, you may feel that way, and you're completely justified in having your opinions, but it is not unpopular.

00:49:03.000 The U.S.

00:49:04.000 still generally looks at Israel and says, they're allies, and we should support them.

00:49:08.000 Look at MSNBC, this one's hilarious.

00:49:10.000 That's awesome.

00:49:10.000 MSNBC, deeply unfavorable.

00:49:13.000 Way down the bottom.

00:49:14.000 MAGA Republicans are above MSNBC.

00:49:16.000 That's all you need to know.

00:49:17.000 Take that, Rachel Maddow.

00:49:18.000 Campus protesters are just above the Palestinian Authority in terms of unfavorability.

00:49:24.000 Then China, Antifa, and Hamas. 0.59

00:49:27.000 I don't know how Joe Biden is able to recover from this.

00:49:31.000 The Democratic Party is divided.

00:49:33.000 The general population despises Hamas, Antifa, and China.

00:49:39.000 The campus protesters are deeply despised And Joe Biden's trying to court them.

00:49:44.000 He's going to colleges and giving these speeches.

00:49:48.000 He's trying to win them over.

00:49:50.000 He is basically telling the majority, I don't care about you. 0.92

00:49:53.000 I care about this fringe minority of weirdos.

00:49:58.000 Four or five years of ACAB, the police still generally have a favorable opinion by the people.

00:50:04.000 Because it's all fake.

00:50:05.000 Yeah, it really is.

00:50:06.000 It's all internet stuff.

00:50:09.000 Like, Twitter's not real life as much as, you know, it's fun.

00:50:12.000 Uh, buh buh buh buh.

00:50:14.000 Older people who are not on social media and are still watching cable news are a part of these polls and they vote.

00:50:21.000 Yeah.

00:50:21.000 But I'm willing to bet when your average 35 year old is 70, These polls are going to look nuts.

00:50:31.000 The older generation right now that is not on social media, so we're talking Gen Xers who are not as active on social media as Millennials and then Gen Z. Still active though.

00:50:42.000 Boomers who are not nearly as active, and if they are, they're on Facebook pages where they're sharing, you know, these silly memes where like a pig has wings and it's like he goes, like, they're just silly things. 1.00

00:50:52.000 There's like, I see, I see weird Facebook memes that they get shared by a lot of boomers, where it's like Jesus holding a pig and it's just like, no but for real. 0.95

00:51:00.000 Boomers have their own memes, crazy. 1.00

00:51:01.000 They do.

00:51:02.000 And it's just like in all caps saying, you know, pray and pray and he will save and like, they're really, like they use all caps a lot.

00:51:10.000 When the older generations that don't use the internet as much are gone, you will see the police numbers change.

00:51:18.000 So if you're looking at Silent Generation, Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, and you ask them about police, yeah, you're gonna get 75% favorability.

00:51:30.000 Silent Generation and Boomers, pass on. 1.00

00:51:33.000 And then you've got Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and what, I don't even know what's after Alpha.

00:51:40.000 But that's, you then ask them.

00:51:43.000 Millennials are split probably 50-50.

00:51:44.000 I bet if you look at the crosstabs on this and look at, you know, age brackets, you know, how did 18 to 29 year olds say to talk on police?

00:51:53.000 I bet it's gonna be like 60-40 or 50-50.

00:51:55.000 This means when the older crowd is gone, the weight changes and it will more reflect what you see on social media.

00:52:03.000 Yeah, I kind of assumed one of, and I could be totally off on this, but one of the reasons that military and police are high, even though there are lots of, you know, anti-war people, people who are skeptical of law enforcement, the state, things like that, was because people are more likely to know someone who served in the military or is a law enforcement officer.

00:52:18.000 So there's a level of like, Well, I don't like that group, but the guy that I know is pretty good.

00:52:23.000 There's sort of a level of forgiveness that other things don't have.

00:52:26.000 But police recruitment, from what I know nationally, is very low.

00:52:30.000 And so as generations grow up, there are fewer people.

00:52:34.000 I mean, military recruitment is extremely low.

00:52:36.000 They miss their targets all the time.

00:52:37.000 So we're going to have fewer of that positive association on a personal level that maybe people use to balance out bigger issues.

00:52:43.000 This is what I think people don't understand, right?

00:52:46.000 They see polls like this, they see economic numbers, and they're like, the internet is not real life.

00:52:51.000 Like, Twitter is not real life, or X, now it's officially x.com.

00:52:55.000 And what they don't understand is that it's technically true in that it is not the universal perspective in this country or on the planet.

00:53:03.000 And it is because different generations consume media in different ways.

00:53:07.000 But when you go on X and you see that there is a 50, like, there's no way Hasan Piker is ever going to say, yay, go cops.

00:53:16.000 Well, unless, of course, they're arresting, like, Sam Hyde or something, right?

00:53:20.000 I mean, literally, like, the moment the cops go after the enemy, the left, they cheer for it.

00:53:24.000 But Hassan's never gonna go on his show to however many viewers he still has.

00:53:28.000 I don't know, he used to have like 40K.

00:53:30.000 There's never a circumstance where he's gonna be like, hey look, I think just generally speaking, cops are very good and I heavily favor them 75% of the time.

00:53:37.000 Never gonna happen, his audience would be in revolt.

00:53:39.000 We then go, ah, but the internet's not real life.

00:53:41.000 Only because his audience is comprised of like 24 year olds. 0.51

00:53:45.000 22, well actually I think they were like 18 to 22.

00:53:48.000 And that's many of the left that are young.

00:53:50.000 On a show like this, majority of the people who are watching are like, I think it's 33.

00:53:55.000 And then we have a recent uptick among younger, uh, 18 to 24, I think.

00:53:59.000 Gen Z getting the shaft is really starting to light a fire under them. 0.99

00:54:02.000 And then we do have a lot of people who watch who are, uh, you know, who are older for sure.

00:54:05.000 But the majority skews towards the 30s.

00:54:08.000 So when you're looking at the comments and opinions on this show, there's a lot of people being like, ah, Tim has no idea what he's talking about because he's not talking about what I see.

00:54:16.000 There's a lot of people who like to post online and they say things like, actually I saw this on, I think it was on Gutfeld, Bill Maher was on Gutfeld.

00:54:24.000 It was pretty amazing.

00:54:25.000 He's trying to sell a book, so he's going everywhere.

00:54:28.000 And I think it was, what's her name, Perino?

00:54:30.000 I can't remember the name.

00:54:31.000 Dana Perino. 0.99

00:54:32.000 And she was saying, I love this talking point because it's just so naive and ignorant. 0.88

00:54:39.000 But she's like, you know, everybody thinks that there's this big divide, but you really, you go outside and you see it's not really there. 0.73

00:54:46.000 It's, you know, people are getting along.

00:54:47.000 And it's like, ma'am, You live in a neighborhood where everybody lives in a similar standard in a similar way.

00:54:54.000 So if you're in the suburbs of Chicago in St.

00:54:57.000 Charles and you go outside, you're like, hey, nobody's fighting.

00:55:00.000 It looks like all that stuff on TV and the internet.

00:55:02.000 It's not real because I go to my grocery store and nobody seems to be upset.

00:55:06.000 Yes, because you live in a block that is, for the most part, more politically homogenous.

00:55:11.000 But if you, I tell you, you leave that place and go to Portland, you're going to be like, did I just enter a war zone?

00:55:18.000 In a completely different world.

00:55:19.000 That's the remarkable thing that people think.

00:55:22.000 I could walk outside my house and all of a sudden everyone's getting along.

00:55:24.000 It's like, well, yeah.

00:55:27.000 You live in a place that has common political views.

00:55:32.000 But you online, in say like New Jersey's 1st District, you're arguing with someone in Portland.

00:55:39.000 So you think you're a moderate.

00:55:40.000 You walk outside and you're like, I see Democrats and Republicans getting along.

00:55:43.000 Because you're in a moderate district and then you go on social media and some fringe far leftist is screaming their lungs out and you're like, ah, that's not real life because I go outside.

00:55:53.000 Then you go to Portland to take a trip there and you're like, this is where these people live.

00:55:58.000 Look at San Francisco.

00:55:59.000 It really is just very, very different in this country.

00:56:02.000 And people don't understand that we used to consume media on a local basis.

00:56:07.000 Even when you turned on your news, you were getting your local news station.

00:56:10.000 Now people turn on the news and it's all national level news.

00:56:13.000 You go on Twitter, it's all national level.

00:56:15.000 People don't realize your local community is not the same as every other community.

00:56:20.000 And so they think everything's fine once you go outside.

00:56:24.000 Then they go on Twitter and they're like, ah, you people don't understand.

00:56:27.000 But I tell you, When the older generation, who consumes media at the local level, as soon as they age out, pass on, it is going to be... Man, I tell you this.

00:56:42.000 Younger people are not watching local news. 0.57

00:56:44.000 They don't know who their city council people are.

00:56:46.000 They don't know who their state reps are, their state senators.

00:56:50.000 There is going to be abject corruption at the state level because no one pays attention to local news anymore.

00:56:56.000 It is only the older generation that turns on local news to get their news.

00:57:00.000 Because your local news station is going to report on Joe Biden.

00:57:03.000 It's going to report on Boeing.

00:57:04.000 It's going to report on these big stories.

00:57:05.000 And then it's going to tell you about, I love this, I was in New York, Watching New York One or whatever and they're like a water main break over on 3rd Avenue and it's like, you're not going to get that news on CNN.

00:57:15.000 Why would they talk about a local pipe break?

00:57:17.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:57:19.000 But you'll get it on your local news.

00:57:21.000 Young people don't consume news this way.

00:57:23.000 And so it's going to be really interesting how this country becomes nationalized because of this.

00:57:30.000 I have a quick question for you.

00:57:31.000 At the beginning, you started talking about how, like, the police numbers, as the older generations die off and you start to see, like, more digitally native generations do these polls, like, the police numbers are going to drop.

00:57:44.000 One of the interesting things about this new New York Times Siena poll that came out showed that Biden was, like, three points ahead of Trump with boomers, like, 65 and over.

00:57:55.000 It just stopped.

00:57:56.000 The computer just stopped working.

00:57:58.000 Let's see if, uh, I clicked start streaming again.

00:58:01.000 We have a light delay.

00:58:02.000 Let's see if this picks back up.

00:58:03.000 Everyone's like, bye.

00:58:04.000 There you go.

00:58:05.000 Like, so, um, I think, I think what we're seeing with the concurrence, uh, so we are back.

00:58:11.000 All right, everybody, if you're listening to the sound of my voice.

00:58:14.000 Oh yeah.

00:58:15.000 I think, I think we're being DDoS'd.

00:58:18.000 Yeah, I think we're getting attacked for the nature of the story.

00:58:22.000 So I'll say a few things.

00:58:25.000 Oh, I hope that recording got grabbed or whatever.

00:58:28.000 So for those that are listening, you probably have noticed something seems off about the stream today, and I think it's fairly obvious considering the title and the subject matter that we're engaging in.

00:58:41.000 I can tell you that on the back end, everything looks normal.

00:58:43.000 On the front end, things look weird, and it's like we may be getting a denial-of-service attack of some sort.

00:58:49.000 Like, the whole machine just fritzed and then shut off, plus we're seeing YouTube end stuff.

00:58:54.000 So, considering the title of this episode and the news that broke, I don't know what to tell you, man.

00:59:04.000 We're talking about the nature of politics these days.

00:59:08.000 I'll say this, my friends.

00:59:11.000 The stabilizing force that is the older generation cannot last forever. 1.00

00:59:17.000 The younger generations are much more radicalized.

00:59:20.000 Gen Z is hyper-polarized, especially between men and women.

00:59:24.000 Millennials are polarized.

00:59:26.000 As you get into the older generations, polarization is less and less.

00:59:30.000 When you look at favorability and when you look at opinions on economics and policy, older generations tend to be overlapping and aligned.

00:59:38.000 Why?

00:59:39.000 Well, baby boomers, for instance, in their late 20s and 30s and 90s, What's up? Is it, we're going?

00:59:47.000 Baby boomers in the 90s, if you look at political affiliation in the 90s,

00:59:52.000 overlaps almost completely.

00:59:54.000 Very little difference.

00:59:55.000 In fact, my parents, like my dad was a conservative, my mom was liberal.

01:00:00.000 But they still basically agreed on most things and disagreed on a few issues, so it didn't really matter all that much.

01:00:05.000 When you get older, it starts to become more confusing, like, wow, really?

01:00:08.000 You had, like, a conservative dad and a liberal mom, and it's like, yeah, but the views of this country were almost unified.

01:00:14.000 There were few issues where people were in disagreement on, like, you know, abortion, for instance.

01:00:19.000 Now the country is hyper-polarized.

01:00:22.000 The older generation, they're gonna pass on.

01:00:25.000 When Gen X is in their 60s, You're going to have boomers, they're going to be in retirement homes, and they're not going to be very active in much. 0.90

01:00:35.000 Then you're going to have millennials, who are going to be the heads of industry and the CEOs, and they are going to have hyper-polarized views that I just think the direction this country is headed in is, I don't know, I should say worrisome.

01:00:49.000 Is the Stream Deck not working?

01:00:50.000 It's definitely not playing up for me, so I can't punch different scenes.

01:00:56.000 When you press it, nothing happens?

01:01:00.000 Okay, let's try that.

01:01:02.000 Yo, this is wild.

01:01:03.000 Reload.

01:01:05.000 Yeah.

01:01:07.000 Alright, there you go.

01:01:09.000 Is it working now?

01:01:10.000 Uh oh.

01:01:11.000 Did we just crash again?

01:01:15.000 Yup.

01:01:16.000 It looks like we're still alive.

01:01:20.000 Yo, this is wild.

01:01:22.000 You've never seen anything like this?

01:01:24.000 You're making history with us!

01:01:25.000 I guess so!

01:01:26.000 for. Okay, so wait, it says that history with us, I guess so. It

01:01:30.000 says that we've crashed. But it looks like it's still running. I

01:01:34.000 can't but but like there's a delay. So I don't know if at any

01:01:37.000 point, it's going to just shut down. Well, I'm not going to touch this and we'll just keep the show going. So you can't

01:01:43.000 the stream decks not working.

01:01:44.000 Should we all just rotate into your seat when we have something

01:01:47.000 to say?

01:01:48.000 It's like a Chinese fire drill. 0.78

01:01:50.000 One big musical chairs.

01:01:51.000 He's gonna have to do it.

01:01:52.000 He's gonna do it manually.

01:01:54.000 Yo, guys, this is wild.

01:01:58.000 Our stream deck has crashed.

01:02:01.000 Our analytics are on the fritz.

01:02:02.000 This is back end and internal.

01:02:05.000 And OBS just says it's crashed again, but it's still streaming.

01:02:09.000 And I bet if we click the accept, it'll just shut the whole thing down.

01:02:12.000 I think so.

01:02:13.000 Yeah, this has never happened before.

01:02:16.000 Never happened before, considering the headline.

01:02:21.000 So anyway, I mean, we made it through half the show before we started getting nuked.

01:02:26.000 So it is what it is.

01:02:27.000 I don't know.

01:02:28.000 So you're gonna, I'm gonna move this down here.

01:02:32.000 Your stream has ended, it says.

01:02:34.000 And then we'll just, let Serge click the mouse instead of using our stream deck.

01:02:40.000 All this technology- I mean, it's good that you guys have a backup here to- another way to make this work.

01:02:45.000 You can't really plan for this stuff, right?

01:02:47.000 You don't really know what's gonna break?

01:02:49.000 I don't think it's breaking.

01:02:50.000 Not break, but like, what's- what's vulnerable to this kind of situation?

01:02:54.000 Yeah, this is- this is- this is- What is going on?

01:02:56.000 Hold on a second.

01:02:58.000 Yo.

01:02:59.000 Oh, I see, I see.

01:03:00.000 I don't know.

01:03:01.000 Whatever.

01:03:02.000 My point is this.

01:03:04.000 Stuff like this- Yo, guys.

01:03:07.000 As we get closer to November, don't be surprised.

01:03:10.000 The instability is growing.

01:03:13.000 The headline of the show is literally the DOJ authorized lethal force against the former president.

01:03:19.000 Now they put out a statement during this show saying this is standard protocol, and I'm like, in what world do you just blanket standard protocol a raid on a president that's never been done before?

01:03:30.000 Wouldn't there be some kind of special protocol and assessment for the fact that you're raiding a former president never before?

01:03:36.000 Has something like this happened?

01:03:38.000 No, they're just like, eh, you know, bring your guns and don't wear uniforms.

01:03:42.000 Absolutely insane.

01:03:43.000 This was one of the lines that was trotted out against the Trump administration for protecting the federal building in Portland, too.

01:03:50.000 That these officers were unmarked and therefore throwing all these peaceful protesters in jail.

01:03:55.000 No, but it's okay when Biden does it.

01:03:56.000 Right, right, right.

01:03:57.000 When the Biden admin does it, totally reasonable.

01:03:59.000 Right.

01:03:59.000 No, you know, those police officers were unmarked because they were in fear of their lives from Antifa protesters.

01:04:07.000 And then, you know, you have an incredibly cooperative team over in Mar-a-Lago cooperating with the National Archives, supposedly cooperating with the DOJ, and then Biden decides, oh, I'm going to roll the sixth fleet right up to Mar-a-Lago's door and no one's going to have any sort of identification.

01:04:28.000 How much of this do you think was just sort of an ill-thought-out PR stunt on behalf of the Biden administration?

01:04:34.000 Because there is a possibility he didn't really know what was going on, Merrick Garland, etc.

01:04:37.000 But it reminds me of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, right?

01:04:40.000 He decided like, oh, we have to be out by September 11th for sort of a symbolic victory, and it just got completely botched.

01:04:46.000 It costs 13 service members their lives.

01:04:48.000 I mean, I think the Biden administration sets itself weird goals to try and tout them as victories, and they almost always end up backfiring.

01:04:56.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:04:57.000 Again, I don't know about enough about like the internal processes on how this would work on a departmental level or throughout the executive branch to say conclusively that it was like a failed PR stunt or anything like that.

01:05:08.000 I think more what I see is just an old, daughtering, gerontocratic regime

01:05:20.000 that has never been held accountable.

01:05:23.000 And so they just, these are the actions of people who feel like they'll never be held accountable for

01:05:29.000 anything and that basically they have the license

01:05:30.000 to do whatever they want.

01:05:32.000 They have the license to prosecute Trump wherever they want, they have the license

01:05:35.000 to pour whatever money and whatever tech money and whatever grant money into turning out elections

01:05:42.000 for their chosen candidates. 0.98

01:05:44.000 They have the capacity to fight whatever war they want, American people's opinion be damned, or darned. 0.97

01:05:53.000 I don't want to get in trouble with that. 0.95

01:05:55.000 But yeah, we'll jump to this next story.

01:05:57.000 We have a tweet from Joe Biden himself.

01:05:59.000 No, we have this post.

01:06:00.000 Joe Biden says Donald Trump posted an ad echoing the language of Nazi Germany.

01:06:06.000 Oh, well, he only cares about holding on to power.

01:06:08.000 I care about you, he says.

01:06:11.000 Yeah, OK, sure.

01:06:12.000 Here's the video.

01:06:12.000 What's next for America?

01:06:15.000 That was a good joke there, Joe!

01:06:18.000 a unified Reich. That's Hitler's language. That's not America's. He cares about holding 0.95

01:06:22.000 on to power. I care about you. That was a good joke there, Joe. So the real story is

01:06:29.000 that it's an American newspaper from World War One not supporting or proposing any kind

01:06:41.000 It's literally just an old-school newspaper stock image that has a news report from World War I. That's it.

01:06:47.000 And so, someone made it.

01:06:49.000 It wasn't Trump.

01:06:50.000 Apparently one of Trump's accounts retweeted it, and then they saw that in the article it referenced the beginnings of Nazi Germany after World War I or something, and then Joe Biden is now trying to act like Trump is calling for a unified Reich.

01:07:06.000 I'm shocked that they actually put that out from the official Trump did no well no that Biden yeah this is a skit where

01:07:15.000 he pretends to be shocked for a camera and notice what does he say is this on

01:07:19.000 an official account that way they can't get sued for defamation because

01:07:23.000 it was some other account that did it because they made him stand at a

01:07:27.000 perfectly lit spot and say hey say this line and we're gonna do this like

01:07:30.000 They're pretending like this is his genuine reaction.

01:07:32.000 That's how inauthentic the Biden campaign is.

01:07:35.000 They're staging something.

01:07:36.000 Look at this.

01:07:36.000 This is amazing.

01:07:37.000 And Wokeness has the debunking.

01:07:40.000 Trump media.

01:07:41.000 Trump echoes Hitler predicting a unified Reich.

01:07:44.000 That's the thing.

01:07:44.000 That's the thing that blows my mind is like they're actually saying this as if he said that.

01:07:49.000 Because they're trusting you're going to only read the headline.

01:07:52.000 Yeah, but to me this, and I mean, yes, I totally understand that you're, that's completely true.

01:07:58.000 I understand what you're saying, but like, it's just, this is, and not that there should be anything beyond the pale, but it's just so surprising that something so blatantly Blatantly dishonest is actually coming out now.

01:08:11.000 Come on! 0.61

01:08:13.000 I know, I shouldn't feel surprised, but it's just so comical that it's so comically dishonest, I guess, is part of the reason why.

01:08:22.000 It just blows my mind, and I probably shouldn't be surprised.

01:08:26.000 I'm not surprised.

01:08:26.000 I mean, the whole launch of Joe Biden's first campaign was the Very Fine People hoax.

01:08:31.000 The Very Fine People hoax, I know that was like BS.

01:08:36.000 Maybe I shouldn't be so surprised about this because of that, but I feel like the Verifying People hoax, even that was a little more believable, because you could at least say, oh, they only heard the bit that he said that, right?

01:08:48.000 The only thing they presented was that little piece that wasn't, you know, getting something from World War One, a newspaper from World War One, and putting it as if this is some kind of ad from today.

01:09:00.000 That's Well, ABC News said Trump posts social media videos seemingly suggesting his victory will bring unified rec.

01:09:07.000 That's fake news.

01:09:08.000 That is a lie.

01:09:10.000 That's just absolutely not true.

01:09:12.000 It doesn't say that.

01:09:12.000 It's just a stock image.

01:09:14.000 Look at this.

01:09:14.000 And what does it say on the image?

01:09:16.000 It's a newspaper vintage history headlines promo.

01:09:20.000 And it says something, what does it say?

01:09:22.000 Universal strength significantly increases something.

01:09:27.000 What does that say?

01:09:30.000 Something driven at the creation of a unified Reich, it's an old news story on a historical newspaper.

01:09:36.000 Psst.

01:09:37.000 If it was actually from the end of World War I, Nazi Germany didn't come right after World War I. We're talking about the Weimar Republic.

01:09:44.000 It's hilarious.

01:09:45.000 Reich just means kingdom or realm, even if it was an official account and it's from a 1919 newspaper or whatever.

01:09:52.000 I'm not saying everything was perfect in Germany in 1919, but we're not talking about this is Yeah, understatement. 0.98

01:09:58.000 But this is what the media does.

01:09:59.000 Do you think it makes the Biden campaign look desperate?

01:10:01.000 Well, of course.

01:10:01.000 is unified right. That's like not at all what what we're talking about here. It's I mean,

01:10:06.000 it's just dishonest and disingenuous in so many levels.

01:10:09.000 Yeah, understatement. I mean, but this is what the media does. It's.

01:10:12.000 Do you think it makes the Biden campaign look desperate?

01:10:16.000 Well, of course. But the issue is these news headlines are going to make it to older people.

01:10:21.000 Younger. This is this is what changes.

01:10:24.000 Everything's gonna change, man.

01:10:26.000 You watch MSNBC, you live in WALL-E world, dude. 0.98

01:10:30.000 You live in crackpot, nightmare, bubblegum nonsense.

01:10:34.000 And it's crazy because MSNBC wasn't always like that, but they've become like that.

01:10:39.000 CNN is trying to pull itself out, and they're struggling to do so.

01:10:43.000 Younger people are getting their news and information from social media.

01:10:46.000 The problem is, I see a dark future, my friends.

01:10:51.000 We're looking at, with the rise of TikTok, YouTube Shorts taking over, and YouTube Shorts really are displacing a lot, and Instagram, people are no longer consuming in-depth conversations.

01:11:05.000 Now hold on, for a while they weren't in the first place.

01:11:08.000 The podcast era comes for a good 10 years, but it seems like we may be on the way out from there.

01:11:14.000 Joe Rogan comes in, his podcast takes off, and people really start enjoying listening to long-form shows where you get longer conversations breaking issues down, and people start to understand them.

01:11:26.000 YouTube is a great vehicle for this, and a lot of people succeeded by creating these long-form videos, but YouTube is deprioritizing all of this, and now what they're prioritizing is shorts.

01:11:35.000 TikTok is creating an algorithm where there's zero substance and maximum dopamine.

01:11:40.000 If young people go this route, Oh, wow.

01:11:44.000 I mean, I assume that's what the deep state is hoping and praying for, that the corporate press, the cable TV is dead, and so they need to make sure things like this can't be substantive.

01:11:57.000 So they want to make sure that you go to work, come home, look at the TikTok and swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, and you never have any idea what's really going on.

01:12:05.000 They control the algorithm.

01:12:06.000 They make sure you'll never see information that defies their worldview.

01:12:10.000 And everyone will chase after whatever nonsense.

01:12:13.000 If they, and they are.

01:12:15.000 Deprioritize news content to a great degree.

01:12:18.000 That's what they've been doing.

01:12:19.000 And they put the likes of Mr. Beast and things like that on the front page.

01:12:23.000 They're basically telling everybody who wants to make content, you gotta be like Mr. Beast.

01:12:27.000 Don't you dare talk about this stuff.

01:12:29.000 And then they do what's called the tiny room shadow ban.

01:12:32.000 And that's basically what they've been doing to us for a long time, of course.

01:12:36.000 And it's only because people share the show and really enjoy it, they can't just shut us down outright.

01:12:42.000 But the Tiny Room Shadow Ban is basically, make sure no new members, anybody who goes to YouTube for the first time will NEVER see TimCast IRL.

01:12:51.000 Only the people who already know it exists and have subscribed will see it, unless they share it with other people and interact with it.

01:12:59.000 So what they want to do is they create pressure against, you know, as this show, you know, gets older, I know exactly why YouTube nuked our two biggest episodes.

01:13:07.000 know it's not really my cup of tea anymore I watch something else we are not seeing the response

01:13:11.000 from you know YouTube's algorithm typically promoting a show like this so I'll tell you I

01:13:17.000 know exactly why YouTube nuked our two biggest episodes they don't like that we are defying

01:13:21.000 their shadow ban we put up an ad on YouTube which some of you may have seen we

01:13:26.000 Real simple.

01:13:26.000 It's just me being like, for the best show, come watch Tim Cast IRL, Monday to Friday at 8pm.

01:13:30.000 Why?

01:13:30.000 That breaks the tiny room shadow ban.

01:13:32.000 Intentionally using marketing to go outside of the bubble they're trying to lock us into.

01:13:37.000 The first ad that I put up showed the top episodes of Tim Cast IRL.

01:13:42.000 They denied, I talked about this on the show, they denied the ads and said they were electioneering.

01:13:47.000 Lie.

01:13:48.000 What?

01:13:49.000 Come watch our news show?

01:13:50.000 That's not election stuff!

01:13:51.000 Are you running for office?

01:13:52.000 It's a lie.

01:13:53.000 Absolute lie.

01:13:54.000 And so I reach out to customer service and they say, this is strange.

01:13:58.000 We don't see anything related to elections in this video.

01:14:02.000 We're going to escalate this and figure out what's going on.

01:14:04.000 And I said, well, hold on.

01:14:05.000 If you have the ability to just activate the advertisement, if you're telling me right now there's no election stuff in it, and that's true, turn it on.

01:14:12.000 And they're like, we can't.

01:14:14.000 Like, they physically can, but they're not going to.

01:14:16.000 We're gonna escalate this.

01:14:18.000 So then, I get an email like a few days later, and they're like, hey, we're the supervisor, we reviewed this, you are correct, nothing in this is related to elections, so your ad has been activated.

01:14:27.000 The next day, I get a call, I get an email from Google saying, we've deleted these two episodes, which were two of three that appeared in the advertisement that I made.

01:14:38.000 And they were like, for no reason.

01:14:40.000 They made up some fake BS reasons.

01:14:42.000 They claimed that we were promoting QAnon.

01:14:44.000 And I said, is that a joke?

01:14:45.000 We mock QAnon.

01:14:47.000 We've never promoted this.

01:14:48.000 And they were like, we don't care.

01:14:50.000 They made up some other BS reason for taking down the other episode and said, if it happens again, you get shut down.

01:14:56.000 Have a nice day.

01:14:56.000 And I went off on them.

01:14:58.000 So that's, so I know why they're pissed.

01:15:01.000 And so I said, okay.

01:15:03.000 So I made an ad with nothing in it, literally just me sitting in the chair, nothing else.

01:15:07.000 And instantly approved.

01:15:09.000 Now we're specifically targeting through the ad outside of the news space and into cultural spaces, and it is working, and I think they are rightly pissed off about it.

01:15:20.000 Okay, so two questions.

01:15:21.000 First off, what two episodes were they, and can people still listen—like, can I go listen to them anywhere right now?

01:15:27.000 They're probably up on iTunes, right?

01:15:29.000 Yeah, they're still there.

01:15:30.000 So it was the Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Michael Malice, uh, who else was that?

01:15:34.000 Was Drew Hernandez on that one?

01:15:35.000 Drew Hernandez was there.

01:15:36.000 Ian, Luke, me, uh, Blair White?

01:15:39.000 Did I say Blair White?

01:15:40.000 Yeah.

01:15:40.000 Uh, was that everybody?

01:15:42.000 That was a wild show.

01:15:44.000 That's the Malice in the Palace.

01:15:45.000 That's crazy.

01:15:46.000 It was in the mobile studio in Austin.

01:15:47.000 It was in the mobile studio in Austin with Rogan and, and Jones.

01:15:50.000 And then they took down the, um, I believe it was the Michael Malice, Alex Jones episode.

01:15:56.000 And they took it down for a vague reason they wouldn't really explain to me, and I'm like,

01:16:00.000 this makes no sense.

01:16:01.000 And then they were like, I'm like, these are three years old.

01:16:05.000 It happened right after we tried running the ad.

01:16:08.000 So you know, here's what I think.

01:16:10.000 They don't mind that the episode exists on YouTube because it exists within the confines

01:16:15.000 of the tiny room shadow band they've created.

01:16:17.000 It only appears... I mean, we get people saying all the time, like, hey, I watch the show every day, and it's a struggle to find it.

01:16:24.000 We often get messages from people saying that it's not even on our YouTube channel.

01:16:28.000 We go live, and they know the show every day, 8 p.m., and they watch it, and they'll go to YouTube, Tim Castellaro, not there.

01:16:34.000 And they're like, I don't even know how to find the link, because it's not there, so it's like...

01:16:38.000 I should probably be tweeting out the link, which I never do.

01:16:41.000 And, uh, so we hear that a lot.

01:16:42.000 So I make an ad taking- showing those episodes outside of the Tiny Room Shadow Band, and instantly they're nuked.

01:16:50.000 And I'm like, uh-huh.

01:16:52.000 They- YouTube, they don't like what we got going on here.

01:16:55.000 That's- For- for the longest time, this show was shadow banned from Google.

01:16:59.000 You- YouTube videos from, uh, Tim Cass and Tim Cass Dairo did not appear on Google search.

01:17:04.000 Yeah.

01:17:05.000 So, one of the things that I talk a lot to young journalists, to people who want to get into the journalism space, specifically on the right.

01:17:13.000 And one thing that I—I give a little spiel of the history of American media because I don't think that you can become a part of it successfully without understanding some of the history there.

01:17:22.000 And one of the things that I say to them is, you know, we live in a media environment that seems decentralized because you have shows like this one, you have Joe Rogan, you have longer form conversations, but actually it is one of the most centralized media environments that has ever existed in this country.

01:17:41.000 When you combine the fact that nearly every major cable news network is owned by one of five corporations, like just a handful, like for every media executive in the country, they oversee an audience of about a million people.

01:17:54.000 So about the size of the city of San Francisco, which is mind boggling.

01:17:58.000 You think, like, oh, well, like, that doesn't account for social media, and it doesn't account for YouTube, and it doesn't account for all these other platforms.

01:18:04.000 But at the end of the day, the social media tech sensors are, like, basically replacing the old corporate journalism sensors.

01:18:11.000 And, like, one of the questions that I have constantly, especially, like, working for a, you know, plucky, relatively small Conservative outlet is like how to empower the decentralizing forces like how to empower shows like like Tim Tim cast right like how do you?

01:18:28.000 Think the right should go about doing that or just people with decent people with rel you know just Believe that the media apparatus is corrupt and want to see a decent, lively public square again.

01:18:43.000 I think we're winning.

01:18:44.000 So, there's a lot going on in the cultural space, in the media space.

01:18:50.000 Elon Musk buying X?

01:18:52.000 Massive.

01:18:52.000 And you know what I think is really funny?

01:18:54.000 A lot of people are shocked.

01:18:55.000 They're like, my viewership is down!

01:18:58.000 What is happening to my account?

01:19:00.000 Elon's cleaning up the bots.

01:19:02.000 I'll pause up on my phone and give a shout-out to Josie the Red-Headed Libertarian. 1.00

01:19:08.000 She hosts a show here for TimCast.

01:19:11.000 It's on her Spaces on X and then we have it for members on TimCast.com.

01:19:15.000 So if you'd like to watch Josie, become a member at TimCast.com and you can watch her special.

01:19:20.000 It's only for members to watch the actual live and then she does a Spaces on X. But she had this post.

01:19:26.000 And I want to I want to break it down and see if I can find this is the wrong account.

01:19:30.000 Whoops.

01:19:30.000 I'm looking at the wrong Josie.

01:19:32.000 Let me pull this one up.

01:19:36.000 Oh, so annoying.

01:19:39.000 It's not coming up.

01:19:40.000 I can't find it. 0.97

01:19:41.000 Okay, you're being throttled. 0.99

01:19:42.000 There you go. 0.97

01:19:42.000 Wait. 0.97

01:19:45.000 I'm getting there.

01:19:46.000 There we go, found it.

01:19:47.000 So, she had this post on Axe talking about how her account is being throttled or something to that effect, and I want to find it so I can cite it properly.

01:19:54.000 And, um, I can't find this.

01:19:57.000 Where is this thing?

01:19:58.000 She posted a graph showing her metrics on Axe and the decline that she was seeing.

01:20:04.000 Was it?

01:20:04.000 I'm pretty sure it was Josie.

01:20:05.000 Where's the post?

01:20:06.000 Where's the post you made, Josie?

01:20:07.000 I can't find it.

01:20:09.000 Okay, I can't find it anyway, so I'll tell you what's going on.

01:20:13.000 There was this thing that happened when Elon Musk announced that he was buying X. And then, you know, Vijaya Gadde was crying or whatever.

01:20:19.000 We found out that she was having regular meetings with the government.

01:20:22.000 What did we notice?

01:20:24.000 For some reason, all of a sudden, right-wing aligned accounts saw massive growth in audience size, and left-wing accounts started dropping dramatically.

01:20:35.000 And everyone's like, whoa, what is this?

01:20:37.000 Some speculated that it was the thumb on the scales of big tech.

01:20:42.000 They were trying to make sure that accounts that were right-wing would not gain followers, and accounts that were left-wing would.

01:20:51.000 Then when Elon announced that he's, you know, buying the platform, they go shred all the papers, clear everything out, make some changes to try and cover things up, and those changes instantly unthrottle all the right-wing accounts.

01:21:04.000 I'll tell you what I think.

01:21:05.000 I could be wrong.

01:21:06.000 I don't know.

01:21:06.000 I'm just speculating.

01:21:08.000 Why is it that right now so many people on Twitter are saying my viewership is down, my engagement is down, it's not worth it?

01:21:13.000 I'm willing to bet that a lot of the engagement people were experiencing was fake and probably run by government entities intentionally for the purpose of manipulating public opinion.

01:21:22.000 In the early 2010s, Barrett Brown started something called Project PM.

01:21:28.000 He went to prison over this, actually.

01:21:30.000 He's an investigative reporter, and he was working with some hackers, and they uncovered information related... I think this might have come from Wikileaks emails.

01:21:40.000 And we saw, I believe it was the Air Force, was buying social media accounts that one person would run 50 accounts to manipulate public opinion by pretending to be 50 different people.

01:21:53.000 So if you are a, um, I'll tell you got a million followers and you post on social media something like, well, I, you know, I just plain don't like Israel, whatever. 0.93

01:22:03.000 You get responses from 50 accounts instantly all saying, you are right.

01:22:08.000 Israel is bad. 1.00

01:22:09.000 We love you.

01:22:10.000 You are correct.

01:22:11.000 You're so great.

01:22:12.000 And what happens is when the average person can only see about 300 posts are once, once they get to the point where more than 300 comments are coming in, it becomes unintelligible.

01:22:22.000 So you go on social media and you comment something like, waffles are great.

01:22:27.000 And then every response is, no they're bad, you shouldn't eat carbs, starches are bad.

01:22:32.000 It could be one person commenting by themselves 50 times to trick a high profile personality into saying, wow, people get really mad when I praise waffles, I better not do that.

01:22:46.000 It's a lie.

01:22:48.000 One thing they don't have a really good time of doing is dealing with polls, so I recommend people use polls.

01:22:53.000 Here's what I think is happening.

01:22:54.000 A lot of the views that are happening on on X for left and right were bots.

01:23:00.000 I'm willing to bet with to a great degree based on the reporting we saw 12 years ago

01:23:05.000 from Barrett Brown, the knowledge we have of sock puppet accounts and the and the government

01:23:11.000 use of them as well as private sector that you've got private entities, political action

01:23:15.000 committees, governments all competing and using bot farms and sock puppets to manipulate

01:23:21.000 public perception through social media.

01:23:24.000 Elon Musk has begun nuking all of the bots.

01:23:29.000 You need to get your blue check.

01:23:31.000 The bots don't appear as prominently.

01:23:33.000 So what's happening?

01:23:34.000 Interactions are becoming genuine.

01:23:36.000 Ad rates going up?

01:23:37.000 Well, it's quite simple.

01:23:39.000 More real humans are interacting with your posts.

01:23:43.000 So your views seem to be down, but money seems to be up.

01:23:46.000 Not all the time.

01:23:48.000 But then people are like, hey, I'm only getting a few.

01:23:50.000 I'm only getting 100 retweets.

01:23:51.000 I used to get 1,000.

01:23:53.000 Yeah, because they used to manipulate public opinion by making sure they amplified certain messages and making it look like certain messages were popular or unpopular, and by programming responses.

01:24:06.000 You got Stream Deck working again?

01:24:07.000 Oh, there we go.

01:24:08.000 So we're back in business, despite the fact that our broadcaster says it's completely broken.

01:24:14.000 But yeah, so I think that's what we're seeing with social media.

01:24:16.000 I wouldn't be surprised if it's mostly fake.

01:24:18.000 I mean, look at this.

01:24:19.000 They used to claim that Big Bang Theory was getting 20 million viewers.

01:24:24.000 I'm like, dude, I don't buy that for a second.

01:24:26.000 I don't buy it for a second.

01:24:27.000 It's fascinating that you look to the digital era where we can track IP addresses and know exactly how many people are watching at any given time.

01:24:36.000 And we're supposed to believe the numbers from traditional media about what they're getting when they're like, it's an estimate.

01:24:42.000 Nah, I don't believe you.

01:24:43.000 They just, like, you know, we learned this also 10 years ago.

01:24:48.000 Now this is 10 years ago, 2014.

01:24:49.000 There was something called ad rights sales where these media companies would go to clickbait farms that produce garbage and trick people into clicking and buy the rights to their traffic so they could put it in their network.

01:25:04.000 All the big digital outlets were doing it.

01:25:06.000 They were claiming, we get 30 million views per month!

01:25:10.000 And what they wouldn't tell the advertisers is that 10 million was the actual website,

01:25:14.000 and 20 million came from bot farms that were producing garbage.

01:25:17.000 So they make these websites where most of you have seen it, and it'll be like 25 photos of

01:25:23.000 celebrities, you know, having wardrobe malfunctions. You click it, and then one image pops up,

01:25:31.000 and there's 800 ads, and then you have to scroll down, click next,

01:25:35.000 and it loads the next image and another 800 ads.

01:25:38.000 What they were doing is they're farming ad views.

01:25:40.000 So they can then, what happens then is, that one page with 50 ads on it, you click five images, and you've generated 250 ad impressions, and then you charge money to an advertiser for that.

01:25:53.000 The advertisers are then like, this is standard in the business.

01:25:56.000 They have no idea why.

01:25:57.000 All they know is that When we buy 250 ad impressions, we get no sales.

01:26:03.000 That's just the way it is.

01:26:04.000 People don't like our product, what can you do about it?

01:26:05.000 The reality was, it was ads being given to, it was the same ad given to one guy five times, or 50 times, and they're not interested in your product, they're not gonna click it, and the advertisers were being defrauded.

01:26:16.000 And all of the big digital media companies were doing it, and then claiming that they were the next up-and-coming stars of media.

01:26:22.000 The whole thing's been fake the whole time.

01:26:25.000 The real question of influence is, If the host of the show says, here's a product, do people buy it?

01:26:31.000 If the host of the show says, become a member at TimCast.com, do people become members?

01:26:36.000 If they do, then you've actually got influence.

01:26:39.000 And so the fascinating thing is there are a lot of people who buy fake followers, they buy views, and they can't sell a product to save their lives.

01:26:48.000 That's the real test, and right now the challenge is, when Facebook launched videos, You would get a million views on a Facebook video and like a hundred thousand on YouTube.

01:27:00.000 So all these big companies, I told this story, I'm at a meeting and they're like, we got to go with Facebook.

01:27:04.000 We're getting a million views.

01:27:06.000 And I'm like, yeah, but you guys realize those aren't real views, right?

01:27:08.000 Like someone watches a YouTube video.

01:27:10.000 It has to be for at least 30 seconds.

01:27:11.000 Facebook is three.

01:27:13.000 So people are scrolling on their feed and it counts as a view.

01:27:15.000 That's not real.

01:27:16.000 And they're like, who cares?

01:27:17.000 We can sell those views and claim it in our network.

01:27:19.000 And it makes us look good.

01:27:20.000 That was the route they wanted to go in media.

01:27:23.000 So they didn't care about whether or not anyone actually was getting delivered an ad or a sponsorship.

01:27:27.000 They just want to be able to claim they did. 0.99

01:27:29.000 And then they go to the advertiser and say, your product sucks. 0.92

01:27:30.000 Sorry, that's your fault. 0.93

01:27:32.000 That whole system is going to implode.

01:27:33.000 It's been imploding.

01:27:35.000 And now we're moving into the space with what Elon is doing on X. And I think it's one of the most important things ever done.

01:27:41.000 Eliminating the bots from the equation of ad sales and sponsorships to fix the system.

01:27:46.000 I think it's going to be a really great thing.

01:27:48.000 That means ultimately, though, people are going to see engagement go down because it was never real to begin with.

01:27:52.000 Does it ever come down to the advertisers to, as they become more familiar with the digital marketing, you know, metrics, to say like, oh, well, you're giving me 250 views, but there's no conversion rate?

01:28:03.000 Like, are advertisers demanding more from these places or are they basically operating the same way they always did?

01:28:10.000 Small advertisers will take on an ad.

01:28:14.000 And then when they get no, when it doesn't work, they come back and say, it didn't really work for us.

01:28:18.000 Thank you and have a nice day.

01:28:19.000 Bigger advertisers don't know or care.

01:28:22.000 And so these big companies will be like, put, put a million there, put a million there, put a million there, put a million there, put a million there.

01:28:28.000 And then if it doesn't work, they'll be like, oh.

01:28:31.000 We just buy ads.

01:28:32.000 They're not going through it.

01:28:32.000 We want brand awareness.

01:28:33.000 Our marketing budget is $500 million. 0.99

01:28:37.000 And so a lot of these companies are producing garbage. 0.74

01:28:40.000 And which is why you've seen like BuzzFeed implode, right? 0.86

01:28:42.000 Because everyone's just, they've, it's out in the open now, right?

01:28:45.000 Like this Uber ad model does not work.

01:28:50.000 What do you guys do for advertisement?

01:28:52.000 Sorry.

01:28:52.000 I mean, we're a 501c3.

01:28:54.000 We rely on small-dollar donations, and we're the American conservative.

01:28:57.000 The Global Disinformation Index said that we had an American and a conservative bias.

01:29:03.000 What a brain trust they have working together over there to find out that the American conservative has such a bias.

01:29:08.000 Somebody spent like three weeks researching that.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, oh my gosh.

01:29:12.000 Oh, Pat Buchanan was the founder of this magazine, oh my gosh. 0.99

01:29:16.000 Yeah, no, it's ridiculous.

01:29:17.000 And it's funny to see, like, just, like, open admissions that this happens on social media, exactly what you just laid out.

01:29:24.000 Whether it's the, you know, when these companies are going bankrupt or they're doing mass layoffs, just, like, saying out in the open, yeah, all of this is fake.

01:29:32.000 And then government sources, like, the IDF, had to admit that it and it said it made a mistake in creating a secret influence campaign on social media after October 7th and like I think everyone's broadly on board what happened on October 7th was absolutely terrible but that is just an example of how governments play with social media to alter public opinion just as you laid out.

01:29:58.000 That's really interesting.

01:29:59.000 I will say this right now as well because we've been doing this show for what is it like going on four years now?

01:30:05.000 And we know how the metrics all intertwine and work with each other.

01:30:10.000 It looks like we're being throttled on YouTube, but it only looks like we're being throttled on YouTube.

01:30:15.000 Because the backend metrics, super chats, likes, are all comparable to when we normally have 38,000 concurrent views.

01:30:23.000 Time watch, everything is stable, but the visible concurrent viewer count is lower than it normally is by like 30%, which isn't possible.

01:30:33.000 Yeah, so, considering the nature of the story, and we saw this happen a couple weeks ago when a bunch of YouTubers were impacted by some kind of glitch where their viewer counts were negatively impacted.

01:30:45.000 But the viewer count doesn't matter.

01:30:48.000 Our super chat revenue is slightly above average for the time of the show, our likes are over 10,000, and then the viewer count doesn't seem to make sense.

01:30:57.000 But on the back end, we're actually slightly above average in total viewer count for where we normally are.

01:31:03.000 I would not be surprised, and I don't think anyone else should be, if coming into this election, they find ways to harm this show in such a way that they don't outright ban it because that causes too big of a splash, but they try to do things that are harder to trace and look strange so that it just seems like something else is happening.

01:31:25.000 Like, yo, the weird system crash thing that we got, considering the nature of the show, I just don't believe in coincidences. Doesn't happen on a

01:31:35.000 Tuesday when you're talking about, you know, swing state polls or whatever, you know, you have

01:31:39.000 to have something spicy in there and then all of a sudden, oh, it's just a coincidence. Well, what is

01:31:43.000 going on right now has never happened before ever. Oh, okay. I feel like, I mean, this

01:31:47.000 is anecdotally, but like increasingly, I know people who have watched Timcast for years, even, you

01:31:51.000 know, before I was part of it, and more and more they'll reach out to me and say like, oh,

01:31:56.000 I tried to find the show last night, just typing into YouTube or whatever else, and it didn't, I,

01:31:59.000 you know, Even when I was searching it specifically, if they were aware of who the guest was, I couldn't find it.

01:32:04.000 A year ago when I was on the show I didn't hear it nearly as often and now I feel like I hear it much more regularly.

01:32:10.000 And if we need to move on, let me know.

01:32:12.000 But you mentioned the Elon cleaning up the bots.

01:32:14.000 I totally agree with you.

01:32:15.000 It seems like very capital-intensive, right, to have like a billionaire come in and buy a site and then be able to clean it out that way.

01:32:24.000 Phil, you're the counter-revolutionary, right?

01:32:25.000 Like, how do you empower those decentralized media apparatuses in like what I perceive to be a very centralized media environment?

01:32:35.000 What's the playbook?

01:32:36.000 What's the revolutionary playbook?

01:32:37.000 Well, I mean, the thing is when it comes to when it comes to dealing with with like the centralized power of like

01:32:42.000 like you know Google or

01:32:45.000 social media it's tough for your average person to You know to to fight against that kind of stuff

01:32:52.000 So, I mean, I suppose the best thing you can do is for all the people that are creators to create on as many platforms as they can.

01:32:58.000 Make sure whatever it is that you create is at least accessible on as many places as you can.

01:33:03.000 So that way you're supporting the whole ecosystem of different, you know, alternative tech and stuff like that.

01:33:08.000 There's a lot of people that are great about it.

01:33:09.000 You know, we do it here.

01:33:10.000 There's people like Jeremy at The Quartering that everything that he puts up, it goes up onto Alternative Tech.

01:33:15.000 Same thing with Sticks, Hex, and Hammer.

01:33:17.000 Everything goes up on Alternative Tech.

01:33:19.000 And dudes that do that are really, you know, they're the ones that are kind of pioneering the way to get away from, you know, the big corporations.

01:33:28.000 And then you've got stuff like Public Square.

01:33:30.000 But I don't know that there's anything in particular that your average person can, like, do Like that's going to have an if an impact the thing that the position that we're in right now is all of the stuff that's going to work or that's that's going to be successful is not going to give you that big time satisfying result right it's the small things that happen over and over and over because that's how we've gotten to this point right all of the small uh the small like all the people that just allow uh

01:34:02.000 Allowed the woke stuff to influence their day.

01:34:07.000 I'm not going to say that because it might be a microaggression, or I'm not going to say this because it might offend someone, or, oh, I don't want to do that.

01:34:15.000 All those little things have added up to the position that we're at now.

01:34:19.000 So now the things that you need to do is be like, OK, well, do the small stuff, like shopping at Public Square before you go to Amazon and making sure your alternative tech stuff.

01:34:32.000 I mean, I think that that's the best thing to do, is everyone just kind of focus on the small things.

01:34:36.000 Make sure you're voting in your local elections.

01:34:38.000 Make sure you know who your selectmen are.

01:34:39.000 These are the things that we talk about here regularly.

01:34:41.000 It's like being actively on guard.

01:34:43.000 Yeah.

01:34:44.000 Somebody asked us, they said, Crowder gets 60k on Rumble and 2k on YouTube.

01:34:48.000 You should dual stream on Rumble.

01:34:50.000 All right, here's the issue.

01:34:52.000 If we make a move So we typically are the number one live show at the time.

01:34:59.000 Not always, but usually.

01:35:01.000 TimCast IRL has the highest average live viewership on YouTube, and that confers certain algorithmic benefits, granted, within the limits of the pressure they put on us.

01:35:12.000 And so we also generate revenue in Super Chats, which is a decent amount.

01:35:16.000 It's not the most substantial.

01:35:18.000 If we, uh, when we moved our clips to Rumble, and again, no disrespect to Rumble, we love Rumble.

01:35:23.000 Uh, big fan, Rumble needs to exist and it needs to succeed.

01:35:27.000 When we moved my morning show and Tim Castile clips to Rumble, you'll notice that they get, you know, 30 to 50 thousand views.

01:35:35.000 Comparably, we lost that many views on YouTube.

01:35:37.000 Duh, makes sense.

01:35:38.000 People are now watching on Rumble.

01:35:40.000 We don't make money on Rumble.

01:35:41.000 So, by moving the clips over, we lost a couple million dollars in yearly revenue, but that's worth it if it means we are helping to compete and try and challenge the system.

01:35:53.000 If we were to move the show over its entirety, then we lose a substantial amount of revenue.

01:36:01.000 There is the possibility of dual streaming, which we've been actively working on, and then we could do XRumble and YouTube all at once, which would likely drop us out of the top YouTube ranking space, which isn't really that big of a deal considering YouTube's giving us the business as it is.

01:36:19.000 But if we end up losing more money, It negatively impacts everything we're doing.

01:36:24.000 So there's a balance between sacrifice to try and support platforms like Rumble and

01:36:29.000 X so that we can compete with YouTube, but also revenue lost confers an inability to

01:36:36.000 actually do the show.

01:36:38.000 So one of the reasons we switched from heavy contents and advertiser model to membership

01:36:43.000 a couple years ago was that if we can build up memberships to a certain point, we don't

01:36:47.000 have to worry about it.

01:36:49.000 I would not say that we're at the point in memberships where we don't have to worry about it.

01:36:54.000 If we have to do it, we will.

01:36:56.000 And the question is, if we do switch over the show to dual streaming, or even to Rumble exclusive, will we actually gain more members to the website?

01:37:07.000 And we don't know that we will.

01:37:10.000 For the time being, YouTube allows us to effectively advertise to the people who aren't members to become members, and there's a constant churn and burn of people who leave, credit cards expire, they don't sign back up, and other people do sign up, and it's a general slow percentage growth per month.

01:37:26.000 We hope, we've had these conversations, that if we switch to Rumble, We're going to get a big spike in memberships from people who are like, this is the right move to make because it supports the alternate ecosystem.

01:37:36.000 And then we get more viewers and it makes the show bigger.

01:37:39.000 But because we don't know, we run the risk of if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

01:37:43.000 That being said, YouTube breaking it makes it kind of more easy to just be like, well, we have no choice.

01:37:47.000 We need to multistream.

01:37:49.000 I think that if we multi-streamed to X, especially considering I have 2 million followers, we probably would get, generally, substantially more viewers.

01:37:57.000 That would require us to do internal sales, which is another job.

01:38:03.000 There's a lot of questions in how we make that work.

01:38:07.000 That is a challenge for us.

01:38:11.000 Sitting down and we're talking about it, like, if we do decide to multi-stream, are we going to lose money or make money?

01:38:19.000 What are the net benefits and the net losses?

01:38:21.000 Okay, a lot of people are like, haha, Tim only cares about money.

01:38:24.000 Well, I care about the business being able to operate, people being able to keep their jobs, and for us to be able to do shows like this, if we don't make money, then the show just stops existing.

01:38:31.000 So if we are currently on a path that generally has a slight growth rate, why shift that in a dramatic way that causes us a massive net negative?

01:38:42.000 Look, there are some other podcasts, who I don't want to name, that are big, that have stopped publishing on Rubble in there completely.

01:38:48.000 And people have called them out for it, and they ignore it.

01:38:51.000 I know why they stopped publishing.

01:38:52.000 I'm like, dude, they looked at their bottom line and said, holy crap, when 20% of our audience switched to Rumble, we lost 20% of our ad revenue, and we can't sell against that.

01:39:03.000 And now we gotta lay people off.

01:39:04.000 That's absolutely what they're looking at.

01:39:06.000 I mean, no disrespect to Rumble.

01:39:08.000 We know we're doing that.

01:39:09.000 I hope everyone understands the importance of helping Rumble and being on Rumble so that people can make that choice.

01:39:16.000 We're going to have to figure out sales.

01:39:18.000 And I think perhaps what we'll have to do is do internal sales targeting Rumble specifically because they don't have the same mechanism as YouTube.

01:39:25.000 So that's just something we've got to work out.

01:39:27.000 But again, I'll stress like we've been we've been working on a bunch of stuff on the back end for X Rumble and YouTube multi streaming.

01:39:34.000 uh... because of what you tubes done in in in in going after us 0.99

01:39:37.000 i'd just wish it didn't have to be that way but it is

01:39:41.000 uh... i i i hope rumble wins their lawsuit against google for their their monopoly manipulation of the digital

01:39:48.000 ecosystem and what we're going through is a good example of why they

01:39:51.000 should be suing the way they manipulate the ad market and restrict

01:39:55.000 competition make shows like us have a very difficult time

01:39:59.000 building a a business outside of you to because of you to strangle the machine

01:40:04.000 So we intentionally put our clips on Rumble knowing it's going to hurt us because we have to put pressure in the other direction.

01:40:12.000 I think that's a great position for Rumble to make that argument that the mechanism by which Google has created in this monopoly, like the example they give is that Android devices have to have YouTube.

01:40:22.000 You can't delete YouTube.

01:40:23.000 So they basically have dominated the space and have cut everyone out of the market, putting pressure on all people who produce content to be forced to use YouTube.

01:40:30.000 And then they censor opinions they don't like.

01:40:32.000 So anyway, long story short, I suppose, it is a difficult space to navigate, especially in election year when they're attacking us and trying to throttle us and shut us down.

01:40:42.000 So, I don't know if, uh, maybe, maybe I can write a 30 second pitch for memberships that is more effective than the one I normally do, that drives more membership, because I can tell you, with, uh, 3.3 million unique viewers per episode across the board, Those people are not becoming members at TimCast.com.

01:41:03.000 They don't have to be.

01:41:04.000 We do the show for free.

01:41:06.000 But I'll tell you this.

01:41:07.000 If every single person who listens to one of the... So when I say 3.3, it is clips and the full show itself.

01:41:15.000 The clips generate a lot more than the full shows because there's more of them.

01:41:20.000 Like one show can generate five to seven segments that are 10 to 20 minutes long.

01:41:25.000 So if we're just talking the whole show itself, it's like half a million uniques per episode.

01:41:29.000 It could be more, actually, that's unfair.

01:41:31.000 It might be like 800.

01:41:32.000 If we were to actually convert 800,000 people to members from one episode, yeah, then we can literally do anything we want.

01:41:41.000 At $10 a month, you're talking about $8 million a month, and then it's just like...

01:41:45.000 Man, you can't shut us down.

01:41:47.000 Eight million bucks a month?

01:41:48.000 Man, I'll buy out the entirety of Times Square.

01:41:50.000 But, you know, the Daily Wire, I think, has like over a million paying members, but it really is hard to get that, especially when the economy is hurting so bad.

01:41:59.000 Right now, we're coming out of an ad market lull, which everybody saw the brunt of, and the economy is getting bad.

01:42:06.000 When Joe Biden says the economy is good, they're lying.

01:42:09.000 When you get these trolls in the chat who are like, Tim doesn't understand what it's like because he's rich, I'm like, bro, I can look at ad rates and memberships and the wave of emails from people being like, we're hurting too much right now to be able to be members.

01:42:20.000 Like, we can see it more so than probably an individual when they're going to the grocery store, because we see 100,000 people all saying right now, Hey, look at what we're going through.

01:42:31.000 Certainly doesn't mean like I'm going through it, but I get it.

01:42:32.000 I get it.

01:42:33.000 Right.

01:42:33.000 So, you know, hopefully we can come to a point where some people have suggested we hire people to do phone calls and like call up members whose credit cards have expired.

01:42:42.000 We don't do that.

01:42:43.000 And they're like, hey, maybe if someone is a member and their credit card expires, you just need to remind them like to be a member.

01:42:48.000 And that's true for most membership driven platforms.

01:42:50.000 We don't because we try to just be organic with it.

01:42:53.000 But, you know, it is what it is.

01:42:54.000 So, you know, we'll work on it.

01:42:56.000 In the meantime, we'll probably get banned, censored, and nuked moving forward, but, you know, it is what it is, so thanks for being members, and become a member at TimCast.com for the uncensored show, which will be up at 10 o'clock, and now we'll read superchats, because I've been ranting for 20 minutes.

01:43:09.000 All right.

01:43:10.000 Kyle says, Think you could get into Don Jr.' 's ear about his dad picking a libertarian for his VP pick?

01:43:16.000 Michael Recktenwald or Josh Smith would be great choices.

01:43:21.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't think he would, but I do love the idea.

01:43:24.000 If Trump was like, I'm gonna pick a prominent libertarian personality, and then he just wins over the entirety of the libertarian, not the entirety, but a large portion of it, I mean, I think that'd be massive.

01:43:35.000 It'd be cool stuff.

01:43:37.000 But it has to be a libertarian who's cool with closed borders.

01:43:40.000 I don't want an open borders libertarian as Trump's VP.

01:43:42.000 That's most of the business caucuses.

01:43:45.000 I'm just saying, there's some still out there.

01:43:46.000 We have to be careful if we're gonna go this route.

01:43:49.000 Fair enough.

01:43:51.000 S. N. Spartan says, I feel like the Dems would have been better off if they just arrested and jailed Trump without charge or trial, because at least they wouldn't seem incompetent.

01:43:59.000 Agreed.

01:44:00.000 Fair point.

01:44:02.000 Cole Marshall says, hit a new personal record today on deadlift, 320 for 7 reps.

01:44:07.000 Solid.

01:44:08.000 Also, thank you everyone who prayed for my Frenchie last week.

01:44:11.000 He has improved greatly.

01:44:12.000 Good stuff.

01:44:13.000 Right on.

01:44:15.000 We didn't have Clint in the chat, but Brian Egon says, Howdy people!

01:44:18.000 Howdy! 0.99

01:44:19.000 And then we got Mike who says, clank!

01:44:22.000 And he posted spoons.

01:44:23.000 Oh, that's true.

01:44:23.000 Shout out to Sticks, Hex, and Hammer.

01:44:24.000 Yeah.

01:44:25.000 I think he's listening to Taylor Swift's new album, by the way.

01:44:27.000 I think it's Swift, Hex, and Hammer.

01:44:29.000 He was tweeting about how Clara Bow is like one of the most beautiful actresses, and that's a song on Taylor Swift's new album.

01:44:35.000 I'm just saying.

01:44:36.000 Skyler Pearson says, Tim, your 6pm segment was seriously inspiring.

01:44:40.000 I've been thinking about Jiu Jitsu more and more lately and I think I'm going to go for it.

01:44:44.000 By the way, Incubus is my favorite since I found science in a stolen CD player when I was 13.

01:44:49.000 Yeah, I was saying, um, Make Yourself by Incubus is like, that's the kind of music I grew up on.

01:44:55.000 You guys know the lyrics to that?

01:44:56.000 Killer song, yeah.

01:44:57.000 Yeah, the young folks, young bucks, how old are you?

01:45:00.000 26 now.

01:45:00.000 26, yeah, I have no idea what the song is.

01:45:03.000 You should listen to it from 1999.

01:45:06.000 And I feel like that whole album, Make Yourself, is literally just... What's the singer's name?

01:45:11.000 Brandon Boyd?

01:45:12.000 I don't know what his last name is.

01:45:14.000 Yes, Brandon Boyd.

01:45:15.000 That whole album is basically like someone told him what to do and he said no.

01:45:19.000 And then he wrote like 13 songs about it.

01:45:23.000 What a great album.

01:45:23.000 You've got Pardon Me, which is him being like, I'm overly stressed.

01:45:28.000 Then you've got Make Yourself, where it's a great line.

01:45:31.000 He basically says, if you don't make yourself, you'll fall apart.

01:45:36.000 You'll be pushed around.

01:45:38.000 The powers that be will have swallowed me whole, but that's more than I can allow.

01:45:41.000 He's got great lines in there.

01:45:42.000 And then the song The Warmth.

01:45:44.000 on that album, which is like, don't let the world get you down.

01:45:46.000 Not everyone here is that effed up and cold.

01:45:49.000 You know, experience the warmth while you're alive.

01:45:51.000 It's a great message.

01:45:52.000 See, I grew up on that stuff.

01:45:54.000 6pm segment was basically like, this woman, I don't know if you guys saw, is crying because she's 33. 0.88

01:45:59.000 She's been single for seven years.

01:46:01.000 She went to a comedy show.

01:46:03.000 They told her to sit in the front row.

01:46:04.000 She did.

01:46:04.000 And no one else did.

01:46:05.000 And she's by herself.

01:46:07.000 So the whole time they're pointing out like, thank you so much for being brave and doing this.

01:46:11.000 But she really just doesn't want to be lonely anymore.

01:46:13.000 And I'm like, it's so sad because she's like 33, single, clearly has a job and pays her own bills and lives alone.

01:46:20.000 She chose the career path and all she really wants is to, she says, when is it my turn?

01:46:24.000 Like, I want to find somebody.

01:46:26.000 And she's like, they've been saying it for seven years.

01:46:27.000 It'll come along when you least expect it.

01:46:28.000 It never did. 1.00

01:46:29.000 And all the, all the guys she meets are trash. 0.98

01:46:32.000 And I'm like, how much you want to bet there's a bunch of guys who watched that video and laughed at her and said, yeah, well maybe she should choose a guy. 0.99

01:46:38.000 But it's like, whoa, hold on.

01:46:40.000 A lot of these guys are sitting on the internet complaining about women instead of lifting, instead of going for a walk, instead of running, instead of working on a project.

01:46:49.000 And I'm like, I bet if any one of these guys who is watching a bunch of this Red Pill content Just decided one day to go for a walk and start lifting and figure out how they could be a better person every day.

01:47:01.000 And they met her.

01:47:02.000 She would be grateful to meet someone who was trying as hard as she was.

01:47:05.000 And then they would find companionship.

01:47:09.000 But too many, and I commend this woman for being like, I'm gonna go out and meet people in the real world.

01:47:14.000 And she tried.

01:47:16.000 And I'm like, and there are a lot of guys who are actively trying too.

01:47:18.000 But I'll just say, if you're the kind of person who sits online and complains about people and doesn't try to improve yourself, Don't be surprised if you're alone.

01:47:24.000 There's a lot of the, like a lot of the Red Pill guys are like, you know, I feel like they're just trying to collect

01:47:30.000 money from dudes that are having a hard time.

01:47:33.000 But there's a couple out there that seem like they are actually, at least actually trying to be useful to guys.

01:47:39.000 Even if they're not like motivated to be like, I'm going to help dudes and like, I want to make sure that people get

01:47:43.000 blah blah blah.

01:47:44.000 Like, even if they're just like, well, you know, I want to make money off of this or, you know, because I'm selling a

01:47:48.000 product or whatever.

01:47:49.000 There's a dude, Ryan Stone, that, that has a couple of books out and he's really like, he's got a very realistic perspective.

01:47:55.000 And he's one of the things that he talks about is, is just like Tim was saying, it's like, you have to get yourself together first.

01:48:02.000 And that's, that's one of the things that dudes don't do.

01:48:06.000 Most people are not self-reflective.

01:48:08.000 Most people don't think about, you know, what am I?

01:48:12.000 Where am I messing up?

01:48:14.000 How am I failing?

01:48:17.000 And the thing is, women don't have to go and try to meet guys. 0.98

01:48:22.000 Like, women just don't have to. 1.00

01:48:23.000 Guys go to try to meet women.

01:48:25.000 So if you're one of those dudes that's like, well, you know, I haven't met someone or I haven't bumped into a woman or whatever, it's your responsibility to go out there and do it.

01:48:34.000 Because women have forever been in the position where guys approach them. 1.00

01:48:39.000 Yeah.

01:48:39.000 That may be changing and maybe there are more women now.

01:48:43.000 Hold on one second.

01:48:45.000 If you want to meet someone, you have to do the things that are going to put you in a position that is most likely to get you into a relationship.

01:48:55.000 So even if there are things that like, not every woman likes this, or not everyone likes that, or not every woman likes this, you have to do the things that the vast majority of women like.

01:49:04.000 Because you're trying to cast a wide net, so I'm sorry for No, I was just going to say, I think it's that idea of like you, if you have this idea of like a partner or a wife or a spouse or husband or whatever it is, like you also have to be the kind of spouse, wife, partner, whatever it is that that person would want.

01:49:19.000 And women and men don't want the same things. 1.00

01:49:21.000 It's another, like, just because you're a dude that thinks that they want something doesn't mean that that's what women want and vice versa.

01:49:27.000 I'm sorry.

01:49:27.000 And to the commenter who's like, Tim's been lifting for a month, and now he's gonna try and tell me, well, it's been three, but the reason I said lifting is because it's easy.

01:49:35.000 No, I've been skateboarding for 25 years and been physically active, and you know, I have my periods.

01:49:42.000 Look, two and a half years ago, I was 200 pounds.

01:49:45.000 Now I am working out every day, have lost 30 pounds, and I decided I've got to do More every day to be a better person.

01:49:57.000 So three months ago I was like, I should add lifting to my already intensive exercise schedule.

01:50:03.000 Today I skated for two hours, a thousand calories burned in those two hours, and that's usually what I do every single day.

01:50:10.000 Well, except for Fridays.

01:50:13.000 Um, Friday's when we just, we hang out, we eat, we play, we do the morning show and then play poker, and that's like, you gotta have a rest day on there.

01:50:18.000 And then I think this Sunday, we chilled, and what did we do on Sunday?

01:50:21.000 We went to, um, I mini-golfed.

01:50:25.000 Oh, cool.

01:50:26.000 Because you gotta have those rest days.

01:50:27.000 My point is simply this.

01:50:29.000 There's a lot of people who are online just complaining about women.

01:50:32.000 And like, bro, you are allowed to complain about women, you are allowed to complain about guys, for sure. 0.54

01:50:36.000 I'm just saying, there are women out there who are good, and are trying to find good men, and then there are a lot of guys who are not improving themselves, who are angry that women don't choose them, and it's like, guys have to earn their status.

01:50:51.000 Yeah.

01:50:51.000 You have to earn it, and it's not easy.

01:50:53.000 You are, life is a treadmill.

01:50:56.000 And if you walk, you're standing still.

01:50:58.000 And if you stop, you're moving backwards.

01:50:59.000 And you have to be running at full speed the whole time.

01:51:02.000 It is not easy.

01:51:05.000 Just look at life.

01:51:06.000 Look at nature.

01:51:07.000 All the animals competing to try and reproduce.

01:51:09.000 That's all it is.

01:51:10.000 And if you're sitting around and you're not becoming, you're not improving yourself.

01:51:14.000 And don't be surprised if you get passed over.

01:51:16.000 Like, you know, that's just it.

01:51:18.000 Guys gotta earn it, man.

01:51:20.000 No one said life was fair.

01:51:21.000 And the guys were like, yeah, well, women don't have to do this. 1.00

01:51:23.000 And women can just do this. 1.00

01:51:24.000 It's like, sure.

01:51:25.000 Like, not easy.

01:51:27.000 And some guys are tall, and you're like, it's not fair, you're tall, you have it easy.

01:51:31.000 You're right.

01:51:32.000 100% right.

01:51:33.000 Dudes who are like, that guy is tall and he's just naturally got a physique, it's unfair.

01:51:37.000 Correct.

01:51:38.000 It is unfair.

01:51:39.000 Now you have to work 10 times harder.

01:51:40.000 Life's not fair.

01:51:41.000 The number one thing that irks me about the even more genuine red pill folks is that they completely reject the notion of sexual complementarity and they completely reject the notion that like actually the key to healthy relationships is deeply reflecting and considering that and so like even in their relationships they still set up this dichotomy of like it's it's individuals compromising and there is a lot of compromise in relationships and the people involved in relationships are individuals sure but actually like the whole purpose i'm a catholic right so like

01:52:19.000 Sacrament of marriage, which I'm preparing for, means that, like, I am going to cling to my wife.

01:52:23.000 We are going to become one flesh.

01:52:25.000 And, like, that should scare the ever-living daylights out of you in the best way possible.

01:52:30.000 Because, like, if you lose a sense of sexual complementarity, um...

01:52:37.000 you you end up in these types of relationships where like even if you know you're going to the gym and you're doing the hard things and you're like trying to make yourself appealing to women like you actually have still missed the point that like the point is not to enter into like a bipolar cold war between you and your significant other like you actually need to move forward together like it's the abrahamic call to leave your father's house stop being a lazy you know george peterson does this like What's Abraham?

01:53:08.000 Stop being a lazy bum! 0.99

01:53:09.000 Cling to your wife! 1.00

01:53:10.000 That's not bad.

01:53:11.000 He's 95 years old!

01:53:12.000 He leaves his house!

01:53:13.000 That's crazy!

01:53:15.000 Like, you know, it's that.

01:53:17.000 And there's an incredible truth to it.

01:53:19.000 And it doesn't have to be biblical per se.

01:53:21.000 I mean, the pagans, the classics...

01:53:24.000 talk about this frequently, where Aristotle's talking about friendships, and it's like,

01:53:29.000 marriage actually, because the sexes are opposed in a way, it's very difficult to find what he

01:53:34.000 calls true friendship, which is a friendship based in virtue, right? There's friendships of utility,

01:53:40.000 there's friendships of convenience, but that friendship of virtue is the highest. And in

01:53:45.000 marriage it is especially difficult, but it is the area in which that is most possible.

01:53:51.000 That true friendship of virtue is most possible.

01:53:54.000 So that's my two cents on that.

01:53:55.000 Dale G. asked, how many steps are you averaging on that Garmin watch, Tim?

01:53:58.000 I pulled it up.

01:53:59.000 7,500 to 8,000.

01:54:00.000 I had one day at like 12,000.

01:54:01.000 Yeah.

01:54:01.000 I don't know.

01:54:01.000 Is that good or bad?

01:54:02.000 I had one day at like 12,000.

01:54:04.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:54:07.000 Is that good or bad?

01:54:08.000 I don't know.

01:54:09.000 10,000 is considered really good, I think.

01:54:11.000 Per day?

01:54:12.000 It's like 7,500 but I average about two hours of exercise four to five times a week and one of those days might I think like Saturdays can be like three to three and a half hours of max heart rate.

01:54:27.000 I'm being told that I need to stop.

01:54:29.000 Because I spend too much time at VO2 Max.

01:54:32.000 So like, like I had one day at like an hour at VO2 Max and they're like, you're old Tim, stop.

01:54:39.000 So I'm like, well, I don't know.

01:54:40.000 I just, I just go as hard as I just skate.

01:54:42.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:42.000 That's the thing about skating, I guess.

01:54:45.000 Neglectful Sausage says, Tim, working out makes you a better person is like men saying wearing makeup makes you a better person.

01:54:52.000 If you actually wanted to debate Red Pill, you'd have Stardusk or Karen Strahan on simp.

01:54:57.000 This is what I love about me saying, hey, you should work out.

01:55:00.000 Simp?

01:55:01.000 For who?

01:55:01.000 Who am I simping for?

01:55:02.000 What?

01:55:03.000 Guys should exercise, be fit and strong.

01:55:05.000 Y'all need some Marcus Aurelius.

01:55:06.000 I think it misses the point of working out.

01:55:09.000 Yes, you can be strong and healthy and it's good, but also the discipline of being like, I am setting a goal.

01:55:15.000 I'm going to the gym once a day.

01:55:16.000 I'm going to progress in the thing I'm growing on.

01:55:19.000 Those are traits that women are looking for, someone who is disciplined, someone who has goals, someone who has ambition. 1.00

01:55:24.000 And yes, working out brings you physical health, so that's a benefit, but it also changes your character and changes your habits and that is what you need to do to live a productive life and especially if you want to be in a long-term relationship.

01:55:37.000 I think you have to have the kind of character that supports long-term growth.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, do the hard things that you don't want to do.

01:55:44.000 Like, if you just look at something and say, like, I don't want to do that, screw that.

01:55:48.000 And then you accuse someone of saying, you should do that thing, it's really good for you, of being a simp.

01:55:52.000 I mean, okay, well then just stop playing the game.

01:55:54.000 Like, stop pretending that you're even playing the game in the first place.

01:55:56.000 You're not here.

01:55:57.000 Dragon Slayer says Tim's heart's gonna explode.

01:56:00.000 I was told that.

01:56:02.000 Cuz you know, we've got two different trainers here.

01:56:06.000 We've got one who does stretching and massage and one who does actual training.

01:56:10.000 And they're both just like, oh, you gotta slow down a little bit.

01:56:13.000 And I'm like, but if I'm capable of doing it, I don't understand.

01:56:18.000 When I skate, I skate when I'm comfortable skating, and I skate as hard as I can, and I don't feel like I'm gonna die or anything, but they're like, yeah, but you're pushing it, and I'm like, I don't know the difference, so I guess whatever.

01:56:27.000 You said it burns a thousand calories when you skate for two hours?

01:56:31.000 Uh, so... Like, what part of your body is getting just worked when you're skating?

01:56:34.000 I've never skated.

01:56:35.000 It's full body.

01:56:36.000 You're not doing any anaerobic upper body stuff, but what I've added to my skate routines is I lift a little bit before, during, and after, because otherwise you're not getting any anaerobic upper body.

01:56:46.000 But it's a full body workout.

01:56:49.000 It's anaerobic.

01:56:52.000 Is that the word I'm thinking of?

01:56:57.000 Aerobic and anaerobic.

01:56:59.000 So at VO2max you're doing anaerobic cardio where you're not getting enough oxygen and so then you get like afterburn and stuff like this.

01:57:06.000 But yeah, it's just shirt is soaking wet.

01:57:09.000 I could probably strain it out with sweat.

01:57:11.000 And I bet your core just gets worked to all heights.

01:57:15.000 Oh yeah, and I would say I typically average about 1,300 calories in two hours.

01:57:19.000 Today was 1,000 in two hours, because today was a little bit light.

01:57:23.000 I was kind of chilling.

01:57:24.000 I did a couple new tricks and stuff like that, but you're charging full speed.

01:57:29.000 I try to keep my heart rate as high as I can when I'm skating, even though you don't really need to.

01:57:34.000 And if you're trying to land a proper technique, then you probably don't want to be overloaded, but I love it.

01:57:40.000 I love just basically getting that fire going.

01:57:42.000 But I do think it's funny that you've got people who are like, working out doesn't make you a better person.

01:57:47.000 You're a simp.

01:57:48.000 I think Pearl called me a simp or something like that. 0.79

01:57:52.000 I don't know if she did because I don't understand the context or whatever because I didn't defend any women.

01:57:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:59.000 Superchat is wrong anyways.

01:58:00.000 Working out does make you a better person.

01:58:02.000 But it's like, this idea among the red pill people is that if you criticize a woman who's red pill, you're a simp.

01:58:08.000 And I'm like, but isn't simping when you just get on your knees for a woman and tell her she's right no matter what? 0.95

01:58:13.000 People use words improperly so much it's super annoying.

01:58:17.000 I've heard the word grifter used towards just someone I don't like more times than I can count.

01:58:23.000 People don't know what words mean.

01:58:25.000 They have no idea.

01:58:26.000 They shouldn't even be allowed to talk.

01:58:30.000 All right.

01:58:31.000 Let's, uh, let's grab- Mark Ivey says, a few days ago, I was celebrating the birth of my son on 5-14.

01:58:36.000 On 5-19, we returned to the hospital as my wife was having chest pain.

01:58:40.000 She passed at 2 a.m.

01:58:42.000 We are asking for help with funeral costs, bills for the kids.

01:58:45.000 Give, send, go.

01:58:46.000 GCHKH, son is only seven days old. 0.99

01:58:49.000 Holy crap, man. 0.99

01:58:50.000 Dude, sorry to hear. 0.99

01:58:51.000 Wow.

01:58:53.000 Uh, let me pull that there up. 0.79

01:58:54.000 What was it?

01:58:55.000 GC- Uh, give, send, go.

01:58:59.000 GCHKH. 0.58

01:59:00.000 Let me see if I can find this one.

01:59:07.000 GCHKH. 0.58

01:59:08.000 I can't find it, man.

01:59:11.000 It is not coming up.

01:59:17.000 I can try and search for it again, but I can't find it.

01:59:19.000 GCHKH. 0.58

01:59:21.000 Amber Pearson's Memorial Fund.

01:59:23.000 You found it?

01:59:23.000 Yeah, I did.

01:59:24.000 I can send it to you.

01:59:25.000 Let me search.

01:59:29.000 Oh, okay, I found it.

01:59:31.000 Is that it, man?

01:59:33.000 Rebecca Pearson Memorial Fund for her children?

01:59:35.000 You're Rebecca?

01:59:36.000 I'm Amber.

01:59:37.000 Amber, sorry.

01:59:38.000 What did I say?

01:59:38.000 I thought they were maybe bringing up two?

01:59:40.000 Oh, Campaign Created by Rebecca.

01:59:41.000 Oh, okay, okay.

01:59:42.000 That's what I was reading.

01:59:44.000 Man, sorry, sorry.

01:59:45.000 Wow, that's... I'm sorry to hear it, man.

01:59:49.000 We'll help you out with what we can.

01:59:51.000 Yeah, definitely for your family.

01:59:52.000 Bender the Offender says, a lot of people were worried Trump would be targeted for assassination attempt.

01:59:57.000 Now that this story has come out, that the FBI was authorized to use lethal force at the Mar-a-Lago raid, who's to say they won't try it again before this election?

02:00:05.000 That's a scary thing, and the FBI says it's standard protocol to authorize this.

02:00:09.000 What about raiding a former president in this way is standard protocol?

02:00:13.000 That's the crazy thing.

02:00:15.000 It's not standard protocol, and it should not be standard, and it should be special.

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