Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - FBI & GOP EXPOSE "Coup" Against TRUMP, Democrat Operative FELONIES Covered Up | Timcast IRL

00:02:25.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it has begun.

00:02:27.000 Now, apparently the story actually is a bit old.

00:02:30.000 This is actually maybe two, maybe about a month and a half ago.

00:02:34.000 Kash Patel at the FBI released the crossfire hurricane documents to the GOP, but this is a large trove of documents.

00:02:41.000 Now, what is that?

00:02:42.000 Boy, this is a complicated story.

00:02:44.000 For those that are not familiar, this was the operation by the DOJ against Donald Trump.

00:02:48.000 What I would effectively call, with air quotes, a coup.

00:02:54.000 How do we describe what these operatives did, both from the Republican side and Democrat side together, to hamstring the Trump administration, to take away his ability to be president, to stifle anything he tried to do?

00:03:06.000 We all kind of looked at each other.

00:03:07.000 It's like, it's not really a coup.

00:03:09.000 They didn't take over, but they kind of did.

00:03:11.000 So we were like, coup in quotes?

00:03:14.000 Maybe some people might want to call it a hard coup.

00:03:16.000 But in 2016, Donald Trump was accused of being a Russian spy.

00:03:20.000 Fake information was disseminated.

00:03:22.000 He was then investigated for years because Democrats could not accept Hillary Clinton lost.

00:03:27.000 Well, now we have new information coming out from declassified documents proving that in 2019, the FBI had evidence that one of the operatives involved in the hoax was lying to Congress, the DOJ, and the FBI.

00:03:42.000 And they covered it up.

00:03:43.000 There was no prosecution.

00:03:45.000 Just sort of went away.

00:03:46.000 But hold on.

00:03:50.000 How did this not get exposed?

00:03:53.000 That one of the individuals involved in bringing together all of this fake news, this fake information, which is used to destroy or to hinder, I should say, Trump's first term.

00:04:02.000 How is this person not charged for what appears to be multiple felonies?

00:04:08.000 And this now coming from Chuck Grassley's office.

00:04:10.000 It was only after Kash Patel got in that he released these documents, and in an interview with Brett Baer on Fox News, he says he found documents he didn't even know existed, and they were in places they thought he'd never look.

00:04:23.000 It looks like it's starting, and I hope that's the case, that we're going to see the FBI and the DOJ go after the corruption, not just from Democrats, but this is also Republicans, covering up.

00:04:34.000 What these operatives were doing to make sure Donald Trump would not be able to do his job as president.

00:04:40.000 Now, some might call that seditious conspiracy.

00:04:43.000 Perhaps a bit long-winded, but maybe that's the best way to describe it.

00:04:47.000 The challenge we have for you today with this story, especially as we're going through the headlines, is there is so much information to break down.

00:04:54.000 Going back almost 10 years to understand how operatives, foreign intelligence assets, individualists.

00:05:03.000 Individuals on both parties were colluding to make sure Donald Trump could not have a first term.

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00:08:35.000 The bugosphere, maybe we should talk about it.

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00:09:04.000 Here's the story from the New York Post. 0.85

00:09:06.000 Holy crap, it's starting, my friends. 0.92

00:09:09.000 Nellie Orr, Justice Department official's wife, perjured herself with demonstrably false Trump-Russia testimony bombshell FBI records. 0.96

00:09:18.000 I just want to say right off the bat, the New York Post is leading with this as a demonstrably true statement.

00:09:27.000 OK, there's I mean, this is a headline where they're opening themselves up to liability for for pointing this out.

00:09:32.000 But they're saying, hey, don't look at me.

00:09:34.000 FBI records are pointing this out.

00:09:35.000 This is in the news now as a fact.

00:09:38.000 OK, the person who compiled smears and lies against Donald Trump, which which which basically ramped up the Russia hoax, which was used to stop Donald Trump, even a component is impeachment.

00:09:51.000 This person was lying.

00:09:52.000 According to these documents, the wife of former DOJ official gave demonstrably false testimony to Congress about her involvement in drafting and disseminating since debunked dossiers about Trump's purported collusion with Russia in 2016, according to a bombshell trove of internal FBI records released by Senator Grassley.

00:10:12.000 Nellie Orr worked with the research firm Fusion GPS when it was hired.

00:10:16.000 In the lead to the 2016 election to dig up dirt on the Trump campaign's alleged links to Russian organized crime, but later told the House panel she did not know about the DOJ's panel investigation into the matter.

00:10:27.000 Now, I want to jump straight to Chuck Grassley, grassley.senate.gov.

00:10:32.000 Newly declassified FBI documents proves Fusion GPS contractor Nellie Orr lied to Congress about contributions to Crossfire Hurricane.

00:10:42.000 Quote, by lying to Congress, Nellie Orr showed contempt for congressional oversight in the American people. 0.98

00:10:49.000 What's more, the FBI and DOJ's failure to hold Orr accountable for appearing to commit multiple felonies and its obstructive conduct against agents that sought additional information reveals the agency's deeply disturbing political bias.

00:11:03.000 Orr never suffered consequences for advancing the phony Trump-Russia narrative and attempting to cover up her involvement in the hoax.

00:11:09.000 Yet time and again, the American justice system has been weaponized against President Trump and his associates with reckless abandon.

00:11:16.000 The DOJ's inaction on Nellie Orr's criminal referral, despite the obviously incriminating evidence provided in the FBI's own analysis, undermines public trust in the rule.

00:11:26.000 I applaud Director Patel, Attorney General Bondi, and Deputy Attorney General Blanche for cooperating with my request to declassify this information, which is in the public's interest.

00:11:38.000 And chart a new course for transparency and accountability at the FBI and DOJ.

00:11:43.000 Here's a challenge for the American people right now.

00:11:45.000 We are talking about 10 years ago when this is all kicking off.

00:11:50.000 Between 9 and 10 years ago, depending on how reductive you want to get.

00:11:54.000 There are many young people we've had on this show who were not politically active nor paying attention when this was going down.

00:12:01.000 And they only know Trump for who he is today, not what was done to conspire against him.

00:12:08.000 I would say soft coup.

00:12:11.000 They didn't take over the government necessarily.

00:12:14.000 They didn't go in with guns and remove Trump from office, but they did try to impeach him.

00:12:20.000 They used this as evidence of his illicit activities, claiming that the Ukraine impeachment was motivated by his ties to Russia.

00:12:27.000 They perpetuated this for years.

00:12:31.000 And their goal, I would argue, is easily defined as sedition.

00:12:35.000 And who is they?

00:12:36.000 Democrats, Republicans, and members of our own intelligence agencies.

00:12:42.000 I mean, establishment figures all around.

00:12:45.000 No, it's just really ironic that right now you have an entire class of individuals, those on the media and the Democratic left, who are losing their minds over these individuals being fired in the bureaucratic administration.

00:12:45.000 Please go ahead.

00:12:57.000 Who did exactly what Trump said that they had did.

00:13:00.000 That they spent his entire first administration blocking every action that he did.

00:13:05.000 Hamstringing every single thing that his administration brought forward.

00:13:08.000 And for what?

00:13:09.000 Just to make up some kind of phony story about Russian dancers in urine to suggest that Trump was somehow in with the Russian mob.

00:13:17.000 Because they didn't like that Trump might come in and wreck the gravy train.

00:13:20.000 It was all true the entire time.

00:13:23.000 I think that's worth pointing to.

00:13:25.000 I think the average person, when they hear about the Russia story, there's so many people that have talked about Trump's involvement with Russia.

00:13:34.000 They lose sight of the fact that it was actually, the accusation was that Trump was involved with the Russian mafia.

00:13:41.000 Not that Trump was actually working for Russia, right, for the government of Russia.

00:13:47.000 And that's one of the things that...

00:14:05.000 Transformed into, in the most ridiculous sense, people were saying that he was a KGB agent back in the 80s.

00:14:13.000 Yeah, his code name. 0.85

00:14:14.000 Yeah, and he had a code name and stuff, which is obviously completely ridiculous.

00:14:18.000 But it points to how these stories got blown completely out of proportion that went from literally nothing, you know, fabricated by an oppo research.

00:14:30.000 And turned into, he's a Russian agent.

00:14:33.000 And it's actually stuck on the left.

00:14:35.000 The left genuinely believes that he is or has some kind of connection to the Russian government.

00:14:40.000 And what is it?

00:14:41.000 In the 90s, one of his companies did a deal with some Russian, you know, landowner to make a hotel somewhere.

00:14:48.000 It turned out that guy's brother was in the Russian mob.

00:14:50.000 Is that like the connection that they're talking about?

00:14:52.000 No, this is the Crossfire Hurricane and this stuff, this the steel dossier that was totally fabricated.

00:14:56.000 They suggested that like somehow the Russian mafia had gotten some blackmail on Trump with some secret tapes and that there was this kind of.

00:15:05.000 Yeah, that kind of nonsense.

00:15:06.000 But the craziness of that is not the point.

00:15:09.000 The point is that they used this to completely freeze and hamstring every single law enforcement agency in this country.

00:15:15.000 We don't even know what reports or referrals made it to whom.

00:15:19.000 That shouldn't be happening.

00:15:20.000 This isn't 1925 where you hand that kind of folder and run this down to the chief.

00:15:24.000 No, you send the referral directly.

00:15:27.000 Who knew...

00:15:30.000 I mean, that's on the table.

00:15:33.000 Or Bill Barr saw it and was like, let's just pretend that doesn't exist.

00:15:36.000 I wouldn't be surprised if Bill Barr was like, I wonder if, if I'm going to be generous, his attitude was, wow, this is really bad, but let's de-escalate things and just put a stop to it now.

00:15:50.000 Like, let's not get too hasty kind of a thing?

00:15:55.000 You know, these people should go to jail because what they did is very criminal.

00:15:59.000 However, that could lead to escalation politically and destabilization.

00:16:03.000 So let's just stop where we are.

00:16:05.000 He seemed like the kind of guy who's going to be like, now, now, there, guys, like most Republicans.

00:16:10.000 Right.

00:16:10.000 The traditional Republicans being like, slow down there, Democrats.

00:16:14.000 Bill Barr sees and he goes, oof.

00:16:16.000 You know, that's a lot of work to deal with.

00:16:19.000 And it's going to create a historical political firestorm.

00:16:21.000 So let's just, everybody, we'll call it a bad hair day.

00:16:25.000 Go about our business.

00:16:26.000 I think that's plausible.

00:16:29.000 Bill Barr was like, I don't want to do this because it's hard.

00:16:32.000 It's big.

00:16:32.000 And then it starts implicating anybody that's perjured themselves, which is like James Clapper, saying that he didn't— Christopher Wray, especially.

00:16:41.000 I mean, we already have Christopher Wray on the record for lying over how and when he met with Joe Biden.

00:16:46.000 And take a look at how the Supreme Court handles these epic cases.

00:16:50.000 And I mean epic as in, like, grandiose historical moments.

00:16:53.000 Texas v. 0.99

00:16:54.000 Pennsylvania in the 2020 election.

00:16:55.000 What does the Supreme Court say?

00:16:57.000 But I don't wanna.

00:16:59.000 So they say, no.

00:17:00.000 It is the obligation of the Supreme Court to handle lawsuits at the state level in what's called original jurisdiction.

00:17:06.000 Now, that's my opinion.

00:17:08.000 I'm not a legal scholar.

00:17:09.000 I'm sure there'll be legal scholars saying, Tim Pool's wrong.

00:17:11.000 The Supreme Court can take what they want.

00:17:12.000 It's going to be a great Newsweek article.

00:17:14.000 Indeed.

00:17:15.000 My point is, who do the states go to for adjudication in affairs if the Supreme Court says no?

00:17:23.000 And this is my point, not to rehash all these old stories, but in the 2020 election case...

00:17:44.000 The Supreme Court said, we are not going to hear it.

00:17:47.000 It is typical of the establishment conservative regime to say, stop, stop, we don't want to have to do this.

00:17:53.000 Whereas Democrats are like, turn on the steamroller and paddle to the metal.

00:17:58.000 And they even found, again, they would take federal cases in the case of Letitia James with Trump.

00:18:03.000 They would take federal statutes, multiply them by 34, and then charge them at the state level with Trump.

00:18:09.000 But you have Republican governors who, again, take what you described as kind of the bill bar.

00:18:13.000 Well, let's not get too hasty.

00:18:15.000 Let's just simmer down.

00:18:16.000 We'll just move forward.

00:18:18.000 You even saw this with Representative McIvor, right?

00:18:21.000 The Trump DOJ suggested from that attorney from Newark that they were going to move forward.

00:18:29.000 If she wanted to move forward, maybe just apologize. 0.58

00:18:31.000 They refused to.

00:18:32.000 So now Trump's administration...

00:18:33.000 I want to make sure people understand the psychosis that this country has been going through for some time.

00:18:45.000 It's hard to think about it, but the COVID lockdowns were five years ago.

00:18:50.000 Five years ago, this nation went insane.

00:18:54.000 Now, hold on.

00:18:56.000 Five years before that, this country went insane too.

00:18:59.000 2015.

00:19:00.000 This is when...

00:19:03.000 This video is from 2018.

00:19:05.000 Listen to this.

00:19:05.000 Let me turn the volume up and...

00:19:11.000 So that's part of what I'm doing with aspects of this piece, like this trip to Moscow.

00:19:16.000 What would it mean if it was...

00:19:19.000 play the full thing.

00:19:19.000 But it says in the Chiron...

00:19:22.000 Unlikely but possible that Trump has been a Russian intel asset since 1987.

00:19:31.000 You never know.

00:19:32.000 In a new cover story for New York Magazine, writer Jonathan Chait argues, we have not allowed ourselves to consider the full range of possibilities.

00:19:40.000 Chait lays out what could be considered the worst case scenario for Trump-Russia collusion, that Donald Trump has been a Russian intelligence asset since 1987.

00:19:50.000 That would mean Donald Trump is a Soviet agent, not a Russian asset.

00:19:55.000 That's how insane this was back then.

00:19:59.000 This was the pretext by which they – Trump had – what was it?

00:20:05.000 Michael Flynn prosecuted or – persecuted is probably a better word – communicating with Russians, lying to the FBI, they said.

00:20:13.000 They were going after anybody who was going to work with Trump.

00:20:16.000 And they used this as pretext that Trump was an asset of Russia.

00:20:21.000 And that all of this communication was illegal, illicit, or otherwise when it wasn't.

00:20:25.000 It was like 2015.

00:20:26.000 I was watching a lot of Rachel Maddow living in L.A., still doing that post-liberal lifestyle clinging on. 1.00

00:20:32.000 And I just remember all of a sudden they started talking about Russia. 1.00

00:20:35.000 And I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:20:36.000 We haven't talked about Russia in 20 years. 0.99

00:20:37.000 Like, Russia and the U.S. are allies now.

00:20:39.000 We're done with it.

00:20:40.000 And 2015, the propaganda started talking about Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:20:43.000 And then it was not only the perfect storm because they're creeping up on Russia with NATO up in Ukraine.

00:20:47.000 They want to control it.

00:20:48.000 They want Russia to make the first move so they can have this.

00:20:50.000 Global war and take it over. 1.00

00:20:52.000 Not only that, now they get to pin it on the president.

00:20:54.000 The guy who's running for president is like, ooh, we can use this to our advantage.

00:20:58.000 Not only are we propagandizing people to go to war with Russia, we can scare people into fearing Trump.

00:21:03.000 You're talking about 2015.

00:21:05.000 Yeah.

00:21:05.000 Not three years before that was when...

00:21:21.000 Three years before that. 0.99

00:21:22.000 It was so abrupt when they started the Russian crap. 1.00

00:21:24.000 It was so weird and manufactured. 1.00

00:21:26.000 Because of Ukraine, because of Crimea. 0.78

00:21:28.000 This has been in the works for a long time.

00:21:31.000 And you know what's fascinating is how predictable a lot of it is.

00:21:34.000 Because if you go back to 2010s, 2012 with the Arab Spring, something I harp on about quite a bit is the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.

00:21:43.000 And that's because it's not the beginning, but if you go back to this point, obviously everything can be reduced back to some thousand years ago something happened.

00:21:52.000 But the Qatar-Turkey pipeline wasn't implemented because Syria blocked us.

00:21:56.000 They said they're not going to allow us to build this pipeline.

00:21:59.000 They're allies with Russia.

00:21:59.000 The U.S. gets mad at Russia.

00:22:01.000 Russia says you're not going to be able to do this.

00:22:04.000 Then starts working with Syria and Iran to build the same pipeline, tapping a natural gas field to once again to strengthen the Gazprom gas control that they have in Europe.

00:22:13.000 The U.S. gets pissed.

00:22:15.000 And then they say, OK, Burisma.

00:22:17.000 Energy company in Ukraine, we're going to try and control the flow of energy through Ukraine as another means to get the prices of energy down in Europe because Russia's charging too much.

00:22:26.000 What happens?

00:22:27.000 Crimea.

00:22:29.000 U.S. involvement in Ukraine, Russia and the U.S. or the West are fighting over whether Ukraine's going to join the West or join the trade federation.

00:22:38.000 And then, of course, we enter the cusp of war and the U.S. goes, OK, Russia's our enemy now. 0.67

00:22:43.000 And that's the direction we want.

00:22:45.000 Just a little ironic history point here that I think people really fail to point out.

00:22:50.000 You talk about the Arab Spring, you talk about the pipeline.

00:22:52.000 This all comes from the United States rebuilding the world after World War II with the Marshall Plan, and the Soviet plan was to create a major energy economy to undermine the United States. 0.62

00:23:01.000 So in essence, what this has all turned out to be is a scheme of the Soviets to undermine the U.S. by creating an alternate energy sphere that cuts off the United States from deciding what the globe does, because that's what we earned in World War II. 0.67

00:23:15.000 Now we have this situation where the Soviets do kind of get the last laugh, creating this endless trail of corruption over an energy market and fundamentalist terrorism. 0.81

00:23:23.000 them.

00:23:29.000 Because we have a super chat where Jonathan Westcott says it's not a soft coup as much as it's a blatant attempted coup.

00:23:36.000 Just because it wasn't successful doesn't mean it isn't an attempted coup.

00:23:38.000 This is the issue.

00:23:39.000 When we were discussing this before the show, the issue is that it was successful.

00:23:44.000 Donald Trump wasn't re-elected.

00:23:46.000 He was unable to effectively run the executive branch the way he wanted to.

00:23:53.000 His national security advisor is falsely accused of crime.

00:23:57.000 Papadopoulos Carter Page, falsely accused of crimes.

00:23:59.000 They even arrested the lawyer and charged him over fabricating evidence against Carter Page.

00:24:05.000 They knew that—I don't want to get into the weeds on this.

00:24:08.000 There's so much to break down.

00:24:09.000 But they fabricated evidence by altering an email so that Carter Page looked like he was guilty of a crime when he was actually intentionally giving—he was working with the CIA and providing them information.

00:24:18.000 Right.

00:24:19.000 This is what they consistently had done to make sure that anytime Trump would turn around, he'd be weighed down and unable to actually implement the foreign policy he wanted to.

00:24:29.000 And in the one time they claimed he was presidential.

00:24:32.000 I tend to look at the convention when he bombed Syria. 0.79

00:24:35.000 When he bombed Syria. 0.70

00:24:36.000 Let's jump to this next segment real quick.

00:24:38.000 This is Kash Patel.

00:24:39.000 He appeared on Fox News with Brett Baier.

00:24:42.000 Listen to this.

00:24:43.000 You were on with Maria a few weeks ago, and you said this.

00:24:48.000 What we can do now is continue to put out the documents and the information that these people withheld from the American public.

00:24:54.000 You're about to see a wave of transparency.

00:24:57.000 What do you mean?

00:24:58.000 Just give us about a week or two.

00:25:00.000 All right, we're almost at two weeks.

00:25:01.000 So this is about Crossfire Hurricane.

00:25:04.000 You just talked about that, all that you've been learning.

00:25:07.000 Can you give us a little of that wave of transparency?

00:25:10.000 Absolutely.

00:25:10.000 So just quickly on Crossfire Hurricane, that is a continuing production.

00:25:15.000 Pause real quick for those that are not familiar, because it's a new segment.

00:25:19.000 Crossfire Hurricane was the investigation into Donald Trump for the Russia collusion narrative.

00:25:24.000 It was a hoax.

00:25:26.000 It hamstrung the Trump administration, and I would argue it was a seditious conspiracy based on the available evidence we have now.

00:25:33.000 You're forgetting one small part there.

00:25:35.000 There's just so much here.

00:25:36.000 How are you supposed to list all of this?

00:25:37.000 They broke the law multiple times to carry out this investigation.

00:25:42.000 It wasn't even carried out according to the Patriot Act.

00:25:45.000 How crazy do you have to be to create a kind of investigation that violates the bloody Patriot Act of all things?

00:25:52.000 So now here's what Cash has to say about it.

00:25:55.000 We have found material, and I'm the Crossfire Hurricane guy, that I didn't even know existed in FBI holdings.

00:26:00.000 So there's been held someplace else?

00:26:02.000 That's been stashed away in locations that people thought we wouldn't find it because we wouldn't know to look for it there.

00:26:08.000 And as promised with my congressional partners, I'm working with Congress on constitutional oversight because that's what the American people deserve.

00:26:16.000 And those documentations have been flowing to Congress nonstop on a rolling basis since that interview.

00:26:21.000 So we've gotten some information so far.

00:26:24.000 That is, in the previous segment we were discussing, that's one of the operatives who had colluded on the Russia hoax, according to an FBI analysis, lied to Congress.

00:26:35.000 And this is Chuck Grassley saying, actually, let me actually grab, actually, I don't know if I have it pulled up anymore.

00:26:42.000 A week from today?

00:26:43.000 Not that one, this one.

00:26:44.000 actually said, newly declassified FBI documents proves Fusion GPS contractor Nellie or lied to Congress about contributions to Crossfire Hurricane.

00:26:52.000 In 2019, they did not prosecute this person.

00:26:55.000 I believe it's fair to say that the dam has broken.

00:26:57.000 I'm hoping that this continues and that Cash is correct.

00:27:02.000 Many people have been asking, why aren't Dan Bongino and Cash Patel going after the public corruption?

00:27:09.000 Who cares about cocaine in the White House?

00:27:11.000 Who cares about the guy in...

00:27:14.000 We want action against the corrupt Democrats who are trying to obstruct a duly elected president from doing his job.

00:27:22.000 We're getting all of it.

00:27:24.000 So right now, it's light.

00:27:26.000 Steve Bannon, I believe it was Bannon who said, mid-summer, we'll see some arrests.

00:27:30.000 Well, this is massive, because this is now in the public sphere, and Kash Patel has released documents.

00:27:37.000 They've been declassified, and the GOP has released them to the public.

00:27:42.000 It now appears the ball has begun rolling.

00:27:45.000 I hope it continues, and I hope that snowball gets very big coming down that hill.

00:27:49.000 I mean, there's a lot of people that actually should be arrested if you go back and think about how many people had been involved in this, how many people had been involved in other accused crimes.

00:28:01.000 There's the pipe bomb on January 6th that they have to investigate.

00:28:06.000 There's a lot of things, and we've talked about this a bit, and I really do think that they're trying to make sure that when they do make arrests, they've got as much evidence and everything.

00:28:21.000 I think this actually goes back to what Tim was saying a little bit earlier about the goal to move this forward so the American people get justice, but that it doesn't create a kind of chaos by just kind of going in guns a-blazin' with just any piece of evidence so that you end up in some kind of an Al Capone trial scene where he's basically just about to get off because you don't have I want them

00:28:53.000 to be gone.

00:28:59.000 I want them to be out of American society. 1.00

00:29:01.000 Traitors be damned and hanged, quote, the founding fathers. 0.99

00:29:04.000 We should have a legal standard that delivers justice for people based on an actual smoking gun. 0.92

00:29:10.000 There should be people prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law with the intent.

00:29:18.000 people from doing this in the future.

00:29:20.000 This should be a deterrent as well as justice.

00:29:24.000 Apparently they're leaving their names all over documents.

00:29:26.000 Sorry, just to point that out, my God, the paper trail is very present.

00:29:29.000 Yeah.

00:29:30.000 I refer to Cash and Dan Bongino as the secret police, the head of our secret police, kind of tongue-in-cheek.

00:29:36.000 Like, we don't really have a secret police.

00:29:37.000 They're not very secretive.

00:29:39.000 Not these guys, because he's giving the documents to Congress.

00:29:41.000 Secret police are supposed to have cooler outfits also, by the way.

00:29:44.000 And, like, sure, the FBI's gonna do undercover work that you don't know they're doing.

00:29:47.000 That's why you don't see a lot of what they're doing.

00:29:49.000 You're like, where's Cash and Dan?

00:29:50.000 Well, they're doing secret stuff.

00:29:52.000 And that van outside, but anyway.

00:29:54.000 Their willingness to send files to Congress to let the people decide what to do with it, it just completely turns that. 0.99

00:30:00.000 That tongue-in-cheek bullshit on its head. 0.98

00:30:02.000 These guys are legit. 1.00

00:30:03.000 Well, hang on a second there.

00:30:05.000 You said that they're sending this to Congress.

00:30:07.000 This isn't the first time this was referred.

00:30:09.000 According to these documents from Grassley's office, there were prior referrals that were sent out of his office.

00:30:16.000 Sean Davis over from The Federalist brought this up this evening.

00:30:19.000 There were referrals made.

00:30:20.000 We have no idea where those referrals went.

00:30:22.000 They could have gone to Barr.

00:30:23.000 He could have thrown them out.

00:30:24.000 They could have been sent to members of Congress.

00:30:27.000 I want to know if they were sent to members of Congress.

00:30:29.000 Are they sitting on committees right now?

00:30:30.000 People need to understand something.

00:30:33.000 Be it Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, be it Bill Barr, the likelihood that they've come across something simply because it exists in the FBI is slim.

00:30:41.000 So, for instance, we've got, I think, 40 people who work at Tim Kass in some capacity, and I'll walk in and there's a car I've never seen before.

00:30:50.000 I have no idea.

00:30:51.000 I'll walk in the kitchen and there'll be like, food on the counter.

00:30:54.000 I have no idea where it came from.

00:30:55.000 And no one tells me.

00:30:56.000 And you know what?

00:30:56.000 I don't think twice.

00:30:57.000 I don't care.

00:30:58.000 The point I'm making is, the head of the FBI, This means it's possible that when the referral was made, it was intercepted by deep state bureaucrats so that Bill Barr never got it.

00:31:15.000 And I'm not trying to absolve Bill Barr of any responsibility.

00:31:18.000 Considering the gravity of these analyses and this investigation, nothing else mattered more.

00:31:23.000 I believe it's more likely he did know this was going on.

00:31:27.000 And just said, we're not going to do this.

00:31:30.000 For the 800th time, you are making a brilliant case for why these career bureaucrats, who were not elected, who are nameless, who are never accountable, we held an internal investigation, Chris Ray said.

00:31:40.000 We did nothing wrong, Chris Ray said.

00:31:42.000 Well, I mean, you're right about the bureaucrats, but I mean, it could just as likely be, you know, someone that is...

00:31:50.000 That's what was most likely to have happened when it comes to the Dobbs decision, right?

00:31:54.000 The Supreme Court case that leaked about abortion.

00:31:58.000 It was most likely that it was a clerk.

00:32:00.000 There are so many politically motivated people in the bureaucracy, people that truly believe that Donald Trump is going to ruin the world when honestly what they're probably trying to do is protect their own jobs or protect their future jobs.

00:32:16.000 The idea that it had to be some kind of well-connected bureaucrat, I think that it could have been almost any kind of operative in the government.

00:32:27.000 What would it look like, the referral itself?

00:32:29.000 How would that happen, point by point?

00:32:30.000 Who makes it?

00:32:31.000 And then where does it go?

00:32:33.000 So, according to Grassley's documents here, and Tim, if you could scroll down just a smidge in there, I want to make sure I get this right here.

00:32:40.000 So, Nellie Orr does all of this stuff. 0.95

00:32:42.000 All right, so let's pick a low-level crime here.

00:32:44.000 She violates, apparently, tells Congress that she didn't use a ham radio incorrectly. 0.92

00:32:49.000 The FCC is super serious about ham radio stuff.

00:32:52.000 She apparently lied about this.

00:32:53.000 If the FBI suspects, hey, you were lying about this, we have evidence, enough evidence, of which with Fusion GPS there was all of the evidence that this was false and garbage and there was actual collusion between bureaucratic offices and congressmen going on against the present administration, then you would make a referral.

00:33:09.000 This referral would be made to the FBI.

00:33:11.000 It can be made to another part, the deputy assistant.

00:33:21.000 Attorney General, perhaps.

00:33:22.000 There are a couple of different places the referrals can go.

00:33:25.000 I think right now what Cash Patel is alluding to in an interview with Brett Baer, they found the referral in a place there shouldn't have been referrals.

00:33:33.000 Oh.

00:33:33.000 So now they're saying, okay, how many referrals...

00:33:36.000 Any of you guys who have kids...

00:33:38.000 Yeah, you ever find a kid who hides something?

00:33:40.000 Your first thought isn't, wow, I'm so glad I have this back.

00:33:42.000 It's, what else has my kid been taking and hiding around the house?

00:33:45.000 Why wouldn't they just destroy the referral, though, instead of put it somewhere?

00:33:48.000 Because destroying things often leaves a bigger trail than just hiding it somewhere.

00:33:54.000 Correct.

00:33:54.000 Yeah, great point.

00:33:55.000 Anybody who has a ferret knows that if you catch the ferret stealing something, you're going to find its stash.

00:34:02.000 And there's a bunch of other stuff stashed there.

00:34:04.000 There you go.

00:34:04.000 You got a kid example and a ferret example here.

00:34:06.000 Did you know that ferret is Latin for little thief?

00:34:08.000 No way, really?

00:34:09.000 Did you know pundit is Sanskrit for teacher?

00:34:12.000 There you go.

00:34:13.000 Yeah, pundit.

00:34:13.000 Sorry, that's all I got.

00:34:15.000 That's the only other response I had for that.

00:34:17.000 So in all seriousness, they likely were putting these referrals in places that they thought people wouldn't find.

00:34:22.000 But if they did, they'd say – It's just in that place that's obscure.

00:34:27.000 And this is why Comey's statement today, he starts to hyperventilate a little bit at the end of this segment with Wolf Blitzer.

00:34:34.000 They're talking about the GOP administration, again, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, opening up some of these investigations, the January 6th pipe bomb, the cocaine, on and on.

00:34:45.000 And he makes a very weird statement about whether or not the FBI ever closes investigations, specifically about January 6th.

00:34:56.000 We have this story from the Daily Mail.

00:34:58.000 Comey slams investigation. 0.99

00:35:00.000 Ex-FBI chief James Comey unnerved as Trump reopens investigation into cocaine at the White House.

00:35:06.000 Now, the first thing I want to say is, bravo, Daily Mail.

00:35:09.000 There should be an award for hilariously misleading headlines because the way they've phrased the title, it's as if to imply that it's Comey's cocaine.

00:35:20.000 Unnerved as Trump reopens investigation into cocaine.

00:35:23.000 He's like sniffing through the whole interview.

00:35:25.000 He's like, uh-oh.

00:35:26.000 Trump reopened a bunch of investigations.

00:35:27.000 Now we have this clip from CNN.

00:35:30.000 Let me play it for you.

00:35:32.000 Something supported by a lot of conservatives out there.

00:35:34.000 What do you make of this?

00:35:36.000 It's a little confusing to me, honestly.

00:35:37.000 I'm sure it's a huge adjustment to go from being a podcaster to being the deputy director of the FBI.

00:35:42.000 But I don't understand this tweet.

00:35:45.000 First of all, I assume that the investigation of the pipe bomb that was found on January 6th was never closed.

00:35:51.000 The FBI never closes such a thing.

00:35:53.000 So I guess it means they're going to focus on it more.

00:35:56.000 And as to the other things, I thought the Supreme Court marshal had investigated the leak of the opinion, the draft opinion.

00:36:03.000 I don't know what the FBI's role is there.

00:36:06.000 Cocaine at the White House, I thought the Secret Service investigated that, so I don't follow it and understand it.

00:36:11.000 I also don't understand who the audience is for this tweet.

00:36:14.000 The FBI often...

00:36:21.000 This seems much more narrowly targeted, maybe to a former podcast audience.

00:36:26.000 That's potentially what's going on.

00:36:28.000 I want to get your also reaction to an exchange the new FBI Director Cash Patel had with Democratic Senator Patty Murray during a recent congressional hearing.

00:36:38.000 Listen to this.

00:36:40.000 Director Patel, where is the FY2026 budget request for the FBI?

00:36:45.000 It's being worked on, ma 'am.

00:36:47.000 Have you reviewed it?

00:36:48.000 I really don't care about a budget request, though.

00:36:50.000 In the tweet from Nick's order, he says, James Comey slams Dan Bongino and Cash Patel for reopening and increasing investigations into the Biden White House.

00:36:57.000 Cocaine, J6 pipe bomber, and Supreme Court Dobbs leak.

00:37:01.000 Comey is in total self-preservation mode.

00:37:03.000 Spill everything, Cash and Bongino.

00:37:06.000 The J6 pipe bomb was under the Trump administration.

00:37:08.000 That was just at the end of Trump's first term.

00:37:11.000 Now, the question is – there's another issue here that I think is interesting, and that's Patriot Front.

00:37:17.000 So Joe Rogan had said something – MSNBC went off on Joe because Joe had said something about after cash gets in, Patriot Front disbands.

00:37:26.000 But Patriot Front didn't disband as far as I know this still exists.

00:37:29.000 MSNBC made that point.

00:37:31.000 But many people still look at groups like that and say, yeah, those are feds.

00:37:34.000 Why?

00:37:35.000 Well, they show up very organized, often – It appears like the law enforcement is disregarding their presence and allowing them to do things they wouldn't let any other group do.

00:37:44.000 The question here is, is James Comey actually unnerved by the reopening of these investigations?

00:37:51.000 It seemed rather weak, to be completely honest.

00:37:53.000 But were there FBI agents, maybe Comey or someone else, involved in a lot of these scenarios?

00:38:03.000 I don't know the cocaine belongs to.

00:38:04.000 I want to mention something.

00:38:05.000 The White House complex is massive.

00:38:07.000 People think White House and they assume it's this singular building.

00:38:10.000 No, it's a massive complex.

00:38:12.000 So where did they find the cocaine?

00:38:15.000 Was it in the Oval Office?

00:38:17.000 Because then we got an issue.

00:38:18.000 But there's so many different areas.

00:38:19.000 There's a bowling alley in the White House.

00:38:22.000 The pipe bomber is interesting because this one reeks of some kind of operation of some sort.

00:38:29.000 The cocaine one I'll tap on there, he said a Secret Service was supposed to take care of that.

00:38:33.000 Well, if they didn't, then does the FBI go, hey, how come the Secret Service isn't doing their job?

00:38:38.000 Maybe that's why the FBI is involved with that.

00:38:40.000 Now, the pipe bomb thing, since day one, what the hell?

00:38:43.000 Because that thing escalated the danger of the day and made it look like justified to go after people that were just standing around as if they had something to do with this pipe bomb, and then they just, the trail had gone cold.

00:38:53.000 And it was the pretext to evacuate members of Congress before.

00:38:56.000 The J6 riots. 0.75

00:38:58.000 So let's just try this.

00:39:00.000 On January 6th, Capitol Police, I believe it was Capitol Police, went door to door in congressional offices to evacuate members of Congress hours before anyone breached the Capitol building.

00:39:12.000 How fortunate for these members of Congress that there was a pretext that got them out of the building.

00:39:18.000 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez used that pretext to create a fake story. 1.00

00:39:22.000 She claimed that the cops went to her room and banged on the door.

00:39:26.000 She went and hid in the bathroom, and she heard someone come in and go, where is she? 0.65

00:39:31.000 Where is she?

00:39:33.000 And she said, I thought they found me.

00:39:36.000 The J-6ers found me. 1.00

00:39:38.000 She thought she was going to die.

00:39:39.000 Is this the same person who hit Jussie Smollett with a Subway sandwich?

00:39:42.000 It was a cop evacuating her because of the pipe bombs.

00:39:46.000 However, the story makes no sense because this happened, I believe, a full hour before anyone breached the Capitol building.

00:39:52.000 So, when this story broke, I actually ended up arguing with Ben Shapiro about it.

00:39:57.000 Because everyone was saying, no, no, they were evacuating, the timeline adds up, and then I pulled her Instagram video and lined it up and said, this story she was telling about getting lunch happened, here's the time frame she gives, here's the video from in front of the Capitol of the first breach of the building.

00:40:13.000 She had no way of knowing they were going to breach the building unless she had foreknowledge that the building was going to be breached.

00:40:22.000 For those that believe January 6th was coordinated intentionally, it is extremely convenient for anyone who's trying to – who knows that there's going to be a riot inside the Capitol, that they had a pretext to evacuate Congress before that happened.

00:40:37.000 Yeah, and even if it was like Capitol Police getting ready to like prepare the building for the assault so they're in there getting all the Congress people out, that could have been – A full hour before – They evacuated members of Congress.

00:40:54.000 I've heard that there's FBI on the scene there.

00:40:57.000 You guys have the data?

00:40:58.000 This is what I want.

00:41:00.000 When they're doing this J6 pipe bomber thing, are we going to get documents related to the informants that we know were on the ground?

00:41:08.000 So this is where things get really, really interesting, and I think this even ties back into why Comey and Ray and so many others are starting to get a little sweaty on camera.

00:41:19.000 Whenever you start to look in these forlorn places where documents are just left to rot, they're not really closed, they're just left open, maybe you look around in some field offices, you start to find references to things that really shouldn't be there.

00:41:32.000 you do start to see whether or not individuals were listed as an FBI informant on some other earlier operation as opposed to just January 6th.

00:41:41.000 And all of a sudden, those testimonies before Congress look a little bit sketchy.

00:41:45.000 The worst part of all of this is that the January 6th committee that was a complete sham and set up so that no one who disagreed with the president, That committee then tried to destroy evidence that was delivered to that committee.

00:42:02.000 It tried to obfuscate, to hide any kind of testimony leaking out to the public.

00:42:07.000 This is something that I want answers for, because before you try to walk out here and say that everything is above board, there's a lot of people getting real jumpy about people opening up old files all of the sudden.

00:42:19.000 What evidence did they destroy?

00:42:21.000 The January 6th committee.

00:42:22.000 You said they received evidence that they destroyed?

00:42:24.000 They destroyed everything.

00:42:26.000 What's left?

00:42:27.000 All the documents.

00:42:28.000 All of the evidence that the January 6th committee collected, right?

00:42:32.000 Picture in your mind a large plastic bin, a post office bin, if you might.

00:42:37.000 And everyone sends in all of the various information.

00:42:39.000 You just keep it in this bin.

00:42:40.000 Well, at the end of this particular investigation from the J6th committee, the Trump administration was essentially getting ready to come back in.

00:42:49.000 They dragged this committee on forever.

00:42:50.000 The House was retaken by Republicans in midterm.

00:42:53.000 Speaker at the time...

00:42:56.000 Comes in and says, well, we'd like to see these documents.

00:42:58.000 And they said, no.

00:43:00.000 And then once they actually got the documents back, they found that the bin was like one-third of the way full, when in fact, we know of all of these things that occurred regarding the January 6th committee.

00:43:10.000 Testimonies, documentation, perhaps security camera footage.

00:43:13.000 Why on God's green earth is there a part of Washington, D.C., that close to the Capitol, that's not on camera?

00:43:19.000 A lot of unanswered questions that are kind of a little weird here.

00:43:23.000 What, Meghan McCain was satisfied with a post-it note that said, I did it, signed J6 people? 0.97

00:43:31.000 I don't know.

00:43:33.000 I can't imagine that there's actually places in D.C. that don't have...

00:43:40.000 Hillary Clinton's office?

00:43:41.000 Well, I'm talking about places outdoors.

00:43:44.000 Oh, yes, yes.

00:43:45.000 Outside of Hillary Clinton's office?

00:43:47.000 Yeah, outside of Hillary Clinton's office. 0.66

00:43:49.000 It's just like, you know, if you're walking around, around Congress or around the DOJ building or around the FBI building, I can't imagine that there aren't cameras.

00:43:58.000 There's more cameras in D.C. than an inner-city target.

00:44:02.000 Anywhere that Hillary Clinton looks is the only place with no care. 1.00

00:44:04.000 I couldn't get the joke in when it was timely, but it would have been funny to think she's like a Terminator shutting down security footage. 0.99

00:44:10.000 Everywhere she walks, the camera's shut down within a 15-foot radius.

00:44:13.000 I'm just chilling outside of surveillance.

00:44:17.000 Well, okay, so it's the lack of evidence that indicates that they destroy the evidence.

00:44:22.000 Can we just, real quick, just...

00:44:25.000 I know that there's not very many liberals that watch this show, and they're never going to clip this, but the Q Shaman... 1.00

00:44:40.000 The police gave him a guided tour.

00:44:43.000 How can you claim that someone had criminal intent when they said, excuse me, officer, can you help me?

00:44:49.000 And they said, yes, I can.

00:44:50.000 Could you imagine walking to a bank and being like, officer, is it okay if I take this bag of money?

00:44:54.000 It's like, let me carry it for you.

00:44:55.000 okay, and then they arrest you.

00:44:56.000 It's like, You let me do it.

00:45:00.000 In this instance, probably a bad analogy because the Capitol building is a public building.

00:45:04.000 Normally, anyone's allowed to be there.

00:45:06.000 So, the police give them a guided tour through a public building and then arrest them for it later.

00:45:11.000 It's very strange.

00:45:13.000 Unless they're undercover and they're facilitating the crime on purpose to get the guy, but then they're complicit.

00:45:19.000 If it's not an undercover staying operation, they're complicit.

00:45:22.000 This is why Cash terrifies them, though, because Cash knows where to look to find this stuff.

00:45:22.000 They're in uniform.

00:45:27.000 And don't get me wrong, I also want the Epstein files released post-haste immediately.

00:45:31.000 There's a lot of other things that I expect this FBI to do.

00:45:34.000 But right now, if this is what he is focused on, if this is what he, Bongino, Pam Bondi, have their sights set on, I am saying, yeah, I want you to search every corner, high and low, all the nooks and crannies, until you find out anything that is of interest to Americans.

00:45:49.000 This is the difficult position.

00:45:53.000 Yes, I agree.

00:45:55.000 Epstein stuff should get released and what's going on?

00:45:57.000 Something's weird.

00:45:58.000 However, weeding out the corrupt individuals who engaged in a seditious conspiracy to stop Donald Trump, I think is actually step one.

00:46:07.000 If they do not deal with this corruption, they'll just lose in 2026 and 2028 and then you'll learn nothing about any of the corruption outside of whatever.

00:46:15.000 So I understand why everybody wants the Epstein stuff.

00:46:18.000 Agreed.

00:46:19.000 If they don't deal with this, we ain't getting nothing.

00:46:23.000 To be fair, I don't know that we're getting Epstein stuff anyway.

00:46:25.000 Yeah.

00:46:26.000 But step one is root the corruption and make sure they don't cheat.

00:46:30.000 They don't try to engage in conspiracies again.

00:46:32.000 Secure the vote.

00:46:33.000 That's another big thing, Don.

00:46:35.000 The system itself.

00:46:35.000 Trump's been talking about the vote.

00:46:36.000 You need a secured vote so that there can't be a coup in the voters box with some digital.

00:46:43.000 I agree with you on the Epstein stuff.

00:46:45.000 I mean, I feel like I don't even want to talk about it too much, but I feel like it's going to implicate global leaders.

00:46:50.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:46:51.000 This is just a simple tweet from Deputy Director of the FBI Dan Bongino.

00:46:56.000 Quote, As we read and process reports of a new COVID strain emerging, I want you to know that we are actively investigating in multiple field offices the cover-up of the origin of the COVID virus, along with associated matters requiring our attention.

00:47:09.000 You deserve answers.

00:47:10.000 I am just going to, because I want to, because I want to believe, I'm just going to mentally insert in the middle of this statement an implied Fauci is going to get arrested for his perjury when he lied to Congress.

00:47:24.000 And that was a Newsweek story that he did.

00:47:28.000 If Dan Bongino legitimately says we are, he said, we are actively investigating.

00:47:33.000 And if that is the case, one of the first things you got to do is take a look at the lab leak, which we...

00:47:41.000 COVID leaked from a lab.

00:47:43.000 Then you have to ask, why did they make this virus?

00:47:46.000 And you have EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak, and Anthony Fauci.

00:47:49.000 And then you get to the congressional hearing with Rand Paul asking Dr. Fauci, did you engage in gain-of-function research?

00:47:58.000 And according to numerous reports, Anthony Fauci lied under oath.

00:48:03.000 Any act of investigation should reasonably include within it The resulting criminal prosecution of Anthony Fauci for perjury.

00:48:12.000 Absolutely.

00:48:13.000 Among other things.

00:48:15.000 I mean, it should be extremely obvious to people.

00:48:20.000 That shouldn't be controversial.

00:48:23.000 There's clear evidence that Fauci was lying under oath.

00:48:26.000 I'm sorry.

00:48:27.000 I'm sorry.

00:48:27.000 Fauci was untruthful.

00:48:29.000 That's what Newsweek said.

00:48:30.000 Oh! 0.60

00:48:31.000 In quotes, even.

00:48:32.000 I see now.

00:48:33.000 Which is perfect.

00:48:34.000 But I mean, it is a terrible development that or a terrible condition that the media literally runs interference for people like Fauci that are responsible for, you know.

00:48:51.000 Hey, guess what?

00:48:52.000 Now you understand.

00:48:53.000 Well, not now you understand.

00:48:54.000 I don't mean it to sound patronizing or condescending here.

00:48:57.000 Now we see very clearly why the media is losing their minds and trying to shift the mental health question of Biden over to Trump, as Thompson and Tapper have done in the last couple of days.

00:49:09.000 They don't want to talk about the idea of whether Biden's auto pen use was legitimate, because once you open a lot of these individuals up for prosecution that they auto penned their way out of and magical last minute totally covers anything pardons.

00:49:22.000 Now you can start to bring a situation where perhaps Fauci makes a deal so that five or six members of Congress can't.

00:49:33.000 Because as we know from the Democrats, as Schumer learned from good old David Hogg, when you raise a generation to backstab just like you did, don't be surprised when you've got a blade between the shoulders.

00:49:43.000 All that needs to happen is for the FBI to go to Fauci and say, listen, Fauci, you are going to be prosecuted for perjury and you'll spend what life you have left behind bars or – And then Fauci says, listen, listen, I'll give you what I can.

00:50:04.000 Just please, please don't arrest me.

00:50:06.000 And then you end up with evidence against maybe, as you mentioned, some members of Congress who are complicit in covering things up.

00:50:13.000 It would should be a shame if someone looked into my mansion houses, my socialism, and the young Latina woman I'm running around the country with and Anthony Fauci.

00:50:20.000 How could they look at me in Vermont?

00:50:21.000 pretty good I just I just want to stress this to all the And we're not mad about it.

00:50:38.000 And then my response is, he did not need a luxury Challenger 600.

00:50:43.000 He could have got a King Air turboprop.

00:50:45.000 He could have, instead of spending $40,000, spent $10,000.

00:50:48.000 The point is, the dude chose a luxury, large, it's like a large to mid-sized jet.

00:50:54.000 Did he have a big staff that he took with him?

00:50:57.000 I don't believe so.

00:50:59.000 Well, but I mean, you know, this is...

00:51:01.000 Maybe.

00:51:01.000 But either way, you can get a turboprop that seats nine.

00:51:04.000 Regardless, the point is, the dude, I don't want to derail, but this guy.

00:51:14.000 Like all of them.

00:51:15.000 What's that?

00:51:15.000 It's a limousine liberal.

00:51:17.000 It's what they do.

00:51:17.000 We're going to fight climate change.

00:51:19.000 Give me your money.

00:51:20.000 Okay, I'm going to go buy a private jet.

00:51:21.000 Same with Karen Bass, who instead of just doing a Zoom call to Ghana, took a little flight over to Ghana and now has only given out 10 building permits.

00:51:29.000 And again, when you start sniffing around, everyone loses their marbles because the gravy train is over.

00:51:35.000 So let's, going back to the previous story, it is time that Republicans exercise power and You know, man, I've said for a long time that I'd never want to be involved in politics, but I'm starting to get the itch, maybe in 20 or 30 years.

00:51:55.000 But what I'm frustrated about is, where's the reckless abandon from Republicans?

00:52:03.000 Democrats figuratively fling themselves off buildings to exert power.

00:52:08.000 Or at federal agents in Newark.

00:52:11.000 Literally punching.

00:52:12.000 I'm going to say this again.

00:52:13.000 Rhett McIver, closed fist, punched a federal agent on camera.

00:52:19.000 And then body slammed him like the Kool-Aid man.

00:52:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:52:22.000 And Republicans are like, well, you know.

00:52:26.000 So I like what Cash and Dan are doing.

00:52:28.000 I'm hoping that they're the energy we need, and it looks good so far.

00:52:32.000 Guys, it has only been a couple months.

00:52:35.000 Seriously.

00:52:35.000 They've not even been in as long as Trump has been, so it's only been a few months.

00:52:39.000 Give them some time.

00:52:41.000 However, I just long for someone to come in and just flip the game board over.

00:52:47.000 You were saying that they're doing it right.

00:52:50.000 They're not going in there with a piece of evidence, doing some clown...

00:52:55.000 They're actually attempting.

00:52:57.000 What were you going to say?

00:52:57.000 No, you set me up in the best way, dude.

00:52:59.000 Thanks.

00:53:00.000 What I was going to say, and then he helped me out here with a beautiful assist, there's a process to all of this because if you don't deal with the federal injunctions first, that'll screw you over.

00:53:09.000 And then if you don't have the budget to take care of it, that'll screw you over.

00:53:12.000 And then because, you know, something will be funded through 29 or 2032 and you can't touch it because Congress allocated money for it.

00:53:20.000 And if you have to.

00:53:23.000 One thing that is very clear about this administration, this is my highest praise for Trump, is that he took that four years in purgatory.

00:53:30.000 Well, four years in hell once it reached indictment season.

00:53:33.000 And he planned out a lot of moves.

00:53:36.000 Trump doesn't do a ton of planning a lot of times.

00:53:38.000 He just kind of walks in and says, I want it and I want it now.

00:53:42.000 But in this case, he really did with his team sit down and go, if we're going to do this, the dominoes need to be in order.

00:53:55.000 Look at how much effort the left has put into stymieing the Trump administration already.

00:54:00.000 Just judges.

00:54:01.000 And again, this doesn't have to be some kind of top-down directive from some secret cabal or whatever.

00:54:07.000 Even though Chuck Schumer literally on camera said, we appointed these progressive judges to do exactly that.

00:54:12.000 But the point is, they don't have to be instructed which executive orders to act.

00:54:20.000 Oh, you mean like the conspiracy of everyone believing the same thing so they all move in the same direction?

00:54:34.000 Exactly.

00:54:35.000 Standalone complex.

00:54:36.000 Emergent phenomenon.

00:54:38.000 Standalone complex.

00:54:39.000 When a group of people all take action that appears to be coordinated but they're individual actions.

00:54:46.000 So it looks like a conspiracy but it's not.

00:54:48.000 Yeah.

00:54:48.000 I mean, that's the typical behavior on the left now.

00:54:52.000 And so I imagine that should there be attempts to indict people, there will be all kinds of effort to hinder any justice being done.

00:55:08.000 I think you also, in order to exercise power effectively, you need the populace to understand what you're doing and to believe in you, or at least give you the authority to do it, to acquiesce.

00:55:17.000 And I wonder how many people...

00:55:19.000 They've already given the authority by electing Trump.

00:55:19.000 What's that?

00:55:22.000 Yeah, but I wonder how many people know that it was a lab leak or believe it was a lab leak today.

00:55:26.000 Because I'm in a bubble.

00:55:27.000 I work with you guys.

00:55:31.000 Don't you feel it?

00:55:32.000 So I want to give I got to give a shout out to Asmund Gold, who was talking about my interview with Adam Conover when he pointed out that we the bubble we are in here is the big bubble.

00:55:41.000 When Conover told me that he didn't know that Trump condemned white nationalists, he said, I'm not in your bubble.

00:55:47.000 And then he pulled up the article where it had the full paragraph.

00:55:51.000 Donald Trump said there are.

00:55:53.000 And he goes, You're in the small bubble.

00:56:05.000 You're saying you're in a small bubble, isolated from the news.

00:56:07.000 I think it is fair to say, for this company, I don't think, I think we're in a bubble, but that bubble is the American national news landscape.

00:56:19.000 Obviously, there's bubbles of influence in every capacity because I don't know what's going on in China right now.

00:56:24.000 So the news that we do have access to is American national news.

00:56:28.000 But people like to say things, you know, like when he's like, I'm not in your bubble.

00:56:32.000 Bro, we're not in an isolated political bubble here.

00:56:35.000 Nope.

00:56:36.000 I read the New York Times every day, and I see what they're saying.

00:56:41.000 And sometimes it appears fine, and I fact check it, and I say, okay, that one looks like it might be okay.

00:56:46.000 And I give them like a 60%.

00:56:47.000 But when it comes to politics, you can really see when they ham it up.

00:56:52.000 When Politico is reporting on kind of beat stuff around the country, I give a lot of praise to Adam Wren from Indiana Politico.

00:56:57.000 He genuinely tries to appear to set aside a lot of his personal biases to report news.

00:57:02.000 And then you have the guy who says, I can't remember the guy's name, but the Politico article from this week, here's what the Democrats' shadow cabinet should be.

00:57:11.000 Bill Nye.

00:57:12.000 Letitia James.

00:57:14.000 That was a funny article, by the way.

00:57:15.000 It was incredible.

00:57:17.000 They're still talking about shadow government.

00:57:20.000 Shadow hearings didn't work out.

00:57:21.000 We stopped hearing about that, by the way.

00:57:23.000 They're still rejecting the will of the American people.

00:57:25.000 This is a fascinating thing from my time with Bill Maher, who I thought was great.

00:57:29.000 Obviously, we disagreed.

00:57:31.000 But I've sat down with so many liberals who think things that are factually incorrect.

00:57:35.000 And they get snooty with you.

00:57:37.000 They get angry with you.

00:57:38.000 They attack you.

00:57:38.000 Bill didn't do any of those things.

00:57:40.000 Certainly, there was a little agitation, but he always tried to keep things chill.

00:57:44.000 And that was great.

00:57:45.000 Also, he was smoking a lot of pot.

00:57:47.000 That'd be very true.

00:57:48.000 But he told me, you've been watching too much Fox News.

00:57:50.000 And I think my response was like, and CNN and Politico.

00:57:53.000 It's fascinating that for the liberal bubble, they say, don't watch Fox News.

00:57:59.000 And I'm like, I try to watch all of it.

00:58:02.000 I try to read all of it.

00:58:03.000 I don't want to be in a conservative bubble only reading The Examiner and The Daily Signal.

00:58:10.000 No, no, I gotcha.

00:58:11.000 I read it all.

00:58:12.000 I read it all.

00:58:12.000 And The Federalist, and I'll read The New York Times, and I'll read CNN.

00:58:17.000 And when I want to abuse myself, I'll listen to NPR.

00:58:20.000 Al Jazeera.

00:58:21.000 Right now, the sources that we have pulled up, first of all, we used the New York Post.

00:58:28.000 Oh, they say that's right-leaning.

00:58:29.000 I've got Newsweek.

00:58:30.000 That's not right-leaning.

00:58:31.000 It's slightly left.

00:58:32.000 We've got Politico, left-leaning, Mediaite, left-leaning, Axios, left-leaning, and Daily Mail, moderate to slightly right, but British.

00:58:39.000 And you haven't included the clips that you've played, including CNN and MSNBC and Fox News.

00:58:45.000 You've a wide variety.

00:58:46.000 And the reason I bring this up is, and with all due respect to Bill...

00:58:57.000 And I appreciate the, like, he doesn't freak out like his other libs, but his response is, you've been watching too much Fox News.

00:59:05.000 He can't see that he's in a liberal hive bubble that he can't see out of.

00:59:11.000 And so if I present him with counterinformation, I think the issue was when I brought up that Ukraine, he said, You know, Trump went on TV and told Russia to help him out.

00:59:20.000 I laughed because Trump said, you know, if Russia, if you do, got something.

00:59:23.000 And then I said, and then he was like, and Paul Manafort ends up getting, you know, convicted or whatever.

00:59:27.000 And I said, yeah, you know where those documents came from, right?

00:59:28.000 Ukraine.

00:59:29.000 And he was like, what?

00:59:30.000 I'm like, Politico reported this.

00:59:32.000 So when he says you've been watching too much Fox News, I'm like, brother, this is Politico.

00:59:37.000 I'm not getting this from Fox News.

00:59:39.000 He just doesn't read these things.

00:59:41.000 And the fear of not looking in one of the...

00:59:44.000 You're probably within a thousand different bubbles at once, and maybe we share a couple hundred bubbles, and then the other bubbles we're not part of.

00:59:50.000 If someone tells you, don't look at that piece of that news company, you're probably going to want to look at it.

00:59:55.000 There are things in the world that you shouldn't look at, like CP.

00:59:59.000 you know, there's like vile things that you shouldn't get involved in that bubble.

01:00:03.000 But when it comes to news, I think that there's no news so dangerous that it will radicalize I'm going to give a shout-out to Ashton Forbes.

01:00:12.000 Do you guys know Ashton?

01:00:14.000 Yeah.

01:00:14.000 He's been tracking the MH370 story, and boy, if you're entering that story from the surface, it sounds nuts.

01:00:20.000 Teleportation technology, Gorgon stare videos of orbs circling a plane.

01:00:26.000 And I'm like, I'm a skeptic.

01:00:27.000 But when he tweeted that he was going to be joining me for an interview...

01:00:39.000 And I'm like, this is really weird.

01:00:41.000 It's really weird.

01:00:42.000 He's basically saying that he thinks teleportation technology blinked the plane out of existence and moved it somewhere else.

01:00:47.000 I think that's a grandiose concept.

01:00:50.000 I don't know that I believe it, but I'm open to the possibility, as I stated in my interview with him today, if we assume anything that we've never seen before is a hoax, we will never discover anything again.

01:01:01.000 We need to be open to the possibility that we will eventually witness a technology we've not yet witnessed before.

01:01:06.000 And so I remain largely skeptical.

01:01:08.000 I don't know that that exists because I think we'd see it more, but sure, let's have the conversation.

01:01:13.000 But I pointed out to him, I've had flat earthers come on my show, and we've debated.

01:01:17.000 Nobody cared.

01:01:18.000 Nobody tweeted at me, how dare you?

01:01:20.000 We had geocentrists come on the show and argue the Earth is the center of the universe and nobody cares.

01:01:25.000 But when this one guy wants to talk about All of a sudden, I'm getting attacked by a bunch of people saying, you're a fraud, Tim.

01:01:35.000 You're promoting this.

01:01:36.000 And I'm like...

01:01:43.000 Lockheed Martin not getting commercial royalties.

01:01:45.000 I gotta be honest, with this whole conversation regarding the bubbles, which, by the way, your description of the bubbles I thought was an incredible OxyClean commercial.

01:01:52.000 We all are around thousands of bubbles.

01:01:54.000 Yeah, I like that.

01:01:55.000 I really enjoy the idea that the left seems to think that a diverse media sphere is new.

01:02:01.000 There was a time in this country, Those are the days.

01:02:21.000 They were all, and even small towns, they had this kind of a thing.

01:02:24.000 They're like, wow, you're watching too much Fox News.

01:02:26.000 Dude, the diverse media sphere has been around a lot longer in this country than your isolated bubble vision.

01:02:33.000 Mika Brzezinski said something once on Morning Joe, like, we're the ones that are going to tell you what the truth is.

01:02:39.000 Don't listen to anyone else.

01:02:41.000 And it's like, that's this, so there were Republican and Democrat newspapers.

01:02:45.000 She said, we decide what the truth is.

01:02:48.000 Freakish.

01:02:48.000 It was worse than what you first portrayed.

01:02:52.000 Appearing into the unipolar mindset of the media, this news media, that it's because there was a Republican and Democrat newspaper, but it's like they're being paid by the same liberal economic order to spurge the same propaganda.

01:03:06.000 Not necessarily the same propaganda, but maybe it was, but I think now, and people like Nika have been brainwashing people to, don't look outside at the other possible Al Jazeera.

01:03:16.000 Horrible, don't do that.

01:03:18.000 Look at us.

01:03:19.000 We're the ones.

01:03:20.000 So, it's like an immune response that these people are having.

01:03:25.000 Like, please don't look away at other information.

01:03:27.000 You need to get it from us or this order is going to fail.

01:03:31.000 I do think that Al Jazeera is probably not the best place to go.

01:03:35.000 But you shouldn't not listen to Al Jazeera, but I would probably check, you know, back up the stories that they're talking about.

01:03:48.000 I usually just call the AP next door.

01:03:50.000 I'm going to play this clip real quick.

01:03:52.000 That's exactly what I hear.

01:03:54.000 What Yamiche just said is what I hear from all the Trump supporters that I talked to who were Trump voters.

01:04:01.000 And are still Trump supporters. 0.75

01:04:02.000 I go, yeah, you guys are going crazy.

01:04:06.000 He's doing exactly what he said he's going to do.

01:04:10.000 Well, and I think that the dangerous edges here are that he's trying to undermine the media, trying to make up his own facts.

01:04:19.000 And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control.

01:04:30.000 Exactly what people think.

01:04:32.000 And that is our job.

01:04:34.000 And that is our job.

01:04:38.000 To control what people think.

01:04:39.000 Hunger Games level.

01:04:41.000 Crazy central power authority.

01:04:44.000 Remember when Joe Scarborough was like, he's like, I was wrong when I said Joe was cogent.

01:04:50.000 And then everyone leans forward.

01:04:52.000 I undersold him.

01:04:53.000 Yeah.

01:04:54.000 This version of Joe Biden is the greatest version of Joe Biden, the sharpest version of Joe Biden.

01:05:01.000 Yep.

01:05:01.000 So you're telling me he can do a Joe Scarborough?

01:05:03.000 Neither of you tried doing an impression of Mika Brzezinski?

01:05:06.000 I feel cheated.

01:05:07.000 Well, they're both very dry personalities.

01:05:10.000 Well, there's also the testosterone.

01:05:12.000 So, like, Mika Brzezinski is vanilla pudding.

01:05:17.000 Like, how do you do an impersonation of someone who's flat? 0.97

01:05:19.000 I just imagine getting kicked in the crotch and then trying to do the news, and I just kind of go from there. 0.69

01:05:24.000 Yeah, but I disagree because that implies some kind of emotive, like emoting. 0.99

01:05:31.000 Michael Brzezinski is just too flat.

01:05:33.000 So the funny thing is we accidentally brought him.

01:05:35.000 It talks like this, and that's our job.

01:05:37.000 It's like, okay.

01:05:37.000 We accidentally brush against something interesting, is this idea of the exceptionalism behind titles and the job and the degree that you have, that simply because you speak in a monotone voice and you have that new...

01:05:51.000 You're listening to this channel.

01:05:53.000 Like, that kind of thing, that gives them the expertise.

01:05:55.000 And because you talk like a normal person on a podcast, that means, well, you're not real news like the person who went to Brown.

01:06:01.000 This really is the world they live in.

01:06:03.000 These people who work in media and broadcast media, they get trained to talk like this.

01:06:09.000 Today, Donald Trump said that a dog would be arriving.

01:06:13.000 And it's like, why are you talking like that, dude?

01:06:16.000 Why are they talking like that?

01:06:17.000 Because they're trained.

01:06:17.000 It's the modern, yeah, it's the modern, it's like, yeah, you had the old transatlantic, I say, like, now you have this transatlantic.

01:06:24.000 It's broadcast, it's like broadcast diction.

01:06:26.000 It's like an authority.

01:06:27.000 That's why, you know, it's exaggerated a bit, but you'll be watching the news and be like, I'm standing here outside of the old Winchester factory.

01:06:34.000 Reminds me a family guy.

01:06:35.000 Apples.

01:06:35.000 Yeah, very much.

01:06:36.000 Well, that's the joke they were making.

01:06:38.000 The Trisha Kwan or whatever.

01:06:39.000 I'm standing here outside every time.

01:06:42.000 And in the podcast era, this is fascinating because it goes back to actually Vice.

01:06:46.000 I think Vice was one of the first iterations of this.

01:06:48.000 Granted, they had a fall from grace, but still.

01:06:50.000 They were interviewed by the New York Times.

01:06:52.000 I think it was with David Carr.

01:06:53.000 And he was like, what gives you the right to go and do these stories?

01:06:57.000 And he's like – I can't remember who said it, but they said basically Vice was – Before them, all news was, I'm sitting here in Timcast IRL Studios.

01:06:57.000 Who are you?

01:07:12.000 Phil is to my right.

01:07:14.000 And then Vice came along and they were like, so we're walking through a jungle and like some guy came up and he had like a club or something?

01:07:21.000 That was weird.

01:07:22.000 And it was like talking to a person about what their experience was.

01:07:25.000 Yeah, Jon Stewart kind of softened.

01:07:28.000 Took it away from the, I'm telling you the news, but he took it into a comedic, but it was still stilted.

01:07:34.000 It was still very overrun.

01:07:35.000 It was like, so let me tell you about this.

01:07:37.000 So last week we had, and then you had, I mean, John Mulaney's even made fun of this with the New York Post, like getting a story like, there's a perv in Queens.

01:07:44.000 Just that kind of shorthand news style.

01:07:45.000 People don't need all of the soft-handed notices of your journalism degree to get the news.

01:07:51.000 And the left has no idea.

01:07:53.000 Why that's not getting them more USA Today subscriptions.

01:07:56.000 Oh, I wonder if it's a gut reaction that makes people trust it, like a sense of authority because they're used to it, that noise, that tone.

01:08:05.000 But there's just a huge swath of humanity now that doesn't see it as value.

01:08:09.000 Oh, like when I take off my glasses, I get accused of being the vice president?

01:08:13.000 Yeah, exactly like that.

01:08:14.000 And Andrew Santino.

01:08:16.000 Kind of like a crossbreed of those two Irishmen. 0.75

01:08:16.000 Oh, wow. 0.75

01:08:19.000 I'll take it.

01:08:20.000 Yeah, I like that guy.

01:08:23.000 So, because I, now when I see that people talking like that, that news voice, I am turned off by it.

01:08:29.000 Especially when you play them all in sync together like during the COVID pandemic and they're all saying the exact same things about misinformation.

01:08:35.000 And because the same journalistic way they speak is also combined in that large news press briefing that was given to them, you can play all of those videos at the same time and they all sound in sync with each other.

01:08:48.000 Now they realize they can't do that.

01:08:49.000 So I don't know if you guys have noticed this.

01:08:51.000 MSNBC, Politico, CNN, they tried very briefly to do the Trump ambushed.

01:08:57.000 Cyril, the South African president.

01:09:00.000 Then they've already fractured into a million different angles on things because people just don't trust the narratives.

01:09:06.000 They no longer drive the news.

01:09:07.000 Now they're the ones following the cycle.

01:09:10.000 The ambush term.

01:09:11.000 I saw a clip where it was just newscasters after newscasters saying that Trump ambushed the president in the White House.

01:09:20.000 So that after that you're saying they were all like, oh crap, they scattered? 0.98

01:09:24.000 Like roaches in the light? 0.97

01:09:26.000 Not light.

01:09:26.000 No, not roaches scattering, but the first, I don't know.

01:09:32.000 I imagine a game of tag where everyone then starts running away from the person that's it.

01:09:36.000 They are active, they are moving, but there's not really any coordinated effort because everything's being shaken up.

01:09:42.000 And also, half of their informants inside the administration have been fired.

01:09:46.000 So they're really up a creek without a paddle or an audience to watch them.

01:09:52.000 Let's jump to this story from Mediaite.

01:09:55.000 MSNBC's new primetime lineup lands with a thud amid ongoing ratings woes.

01:10:00.000 Yeah, they're flopping.

01:10:02.000 The ratings are getting worse and worse.

01:10:04.000 And you know what's crazy is we could probably do this same segment every week because there's always some drop-off.

01:10:11.000 Every week their ratings are getting worse.

01:10:13.000 Check this out.

01:10:14.000 MSNBC's new primetime lineup, which debuted May 5th, failed to connect with viewers.

01:10:18.000 Well, of course it did.

01:10:19.000 Nobody likes this stuff.

01:10:21.000 Overall, MSNBC dropped 41% in the primetime demo and 34% in total day demo compared to May of 24. In total viewers, the network was down 33% across the day and 24 in primetime.

01:10:35.000 MSNBC's total day demo viewership sank to 49,000.

01:10:39.000 That's crazy, dude.

01:10:42.000 73,000 in primetime.

01:10:43.000 It's second worst ever showing for a month behind January of 2021.

01:10:47.000 You know what I do?

01:10:48.000 I'm going to pull up my phone and go to Instagram real quick.

01:10:51.000 And I'm going to take a look at some of the clips that I got here.

01:10:54.000 While you're doing that, I'll bring a little homework to this on my end because USA Today...

01:11:01.000 I have a tweet that I posted.

01:11:04.000 Like one tweet?

01:11:04.000 One tweet that was screenshotted and uploaded to Instagram as 170,000 views.

01:11:12.000 I mean, again, this isn't just even relegated to MSNBC.

01:11:16.000 USA Today...

01:11:25.000 USA Today can barely break half a million subscribers.

01:11:28.000 Are they paying subscribers?

01:11:30.000 Well, that includes all of the schools and the libraries and the buildings that have them in the lobby and the gas stations that buy them.

01:11:36.000 Interesting.

01:11:36.000 It's really rough.

01:11:38.000 Now, get this.

01:11:38.000 The New York Times is doing well, though.

01:11:39.000 Oh, true.

01:11:40.000 But they also have, like, Wordle.

01:11:43.000 The Indianapolis Star, in my neck of the woods, in 2000, had 363,000 subscribers.

01:11:49.000 So if you look at over the last 25 years, what they have lost, that's just one outlet out of that whole network. 0.98

01:11:55.000 No one believes these fools anymore. 0.99

01:11:57.000 Nothing can prop them up. 0.99

01:11:59.000 That's why Scott Jennings has kept on at CNN as long as he has.

01:12:02.000 You were reading that USA Today has how many subscribers?

01:12:05.000 Right now, digital only, 402,948.

01:12:08.000 As of today?

01:12:09.000 That's the digital only.

01:12:11.000 As of December 31st, 2024.

01:12:13.000 Daily subscribers, 99,974.

01:12:16.000 So total just over 500,000 subscribers to any USA Today outlet news.

01:12:21.000 As of October, you said?

01:12:22.000 As of December 31st, 2024.

01:12:26.000 I've had that in my spare show notes, like down in like segment five, which there is no segment five, for ages and just happened to have it ready to bring up.

01:12:35.000 What's the source of that?

01:12:36.000 Because I'm finding a different number.

01:12:37.000 I'm finding two million.

01:12:39.000 Give me a few seconds while you guys move on to pull that one up, because we just have the graph screenshotted.

01:12:44.000 I just did a quick Google search.

01:12:45.000 It says, USA Today has 2 million digital-only subscribers at the end of 2024.

01:12:50.000 2 million paid digital-only subscribers.

01:12:52.000 I'm going to pull it up.

01:12:53.000 To be fair, though, USA Today is a massive network of smaller papers across the country.

01:12:57.000 Yeah, it's the Gannett network.

01:12:59.000 Yeah.

01:13:00.000 But anyway, to the main point, I remember when CNN used to get millions?

01:13:07.000 Millions, yeah.

01:13:08.000 Tens of millions?

01:13:13.000 They're not going to be around for very long.

01:13:15.000 The system is going to implode.

01:13:21.000 This format doesn't work.

01:13:22.000 And the crazy thing is, you know what I would do if I would...

01:13:29.000 Highest rated cable TV news show right now, I think.

01:13:31.000 And it's similar to this.

01:13:33.000 They pull up a news story.

01:13:35.000 Rate it, and then they all talk about it.

01:13:36.000 I think the age of networks value is dropping, and then the age of individual value is on the rise.

01:13:44.000 These networks that are trying to own people, the people realize, I can just do this myself.

01:13:48.000 And I think it was David Sachs.

01:13:50.000 Somebody was saying that he anticipates the first billion-dollar company that has one employee will be, like, next year.

01:13:57.000 That's where we're headed, right?

01:13:58.000 I did find that stat.

01:13:59.000 According to the actual Gannett Annual Report 2024, found online, GCI-2025 Annual Report, bookmarked for web hosting.

01:14:06.000 They have all of the USA Today outlets and then affiliates.

01:14:09.000 And yes, that is the exact number that we have.

01:14:12.000 I didn't even realize some of the other outlets look even worse.

01:14:16.000 Akron, Ohio is like scraping by what we scrape by on if we post a Sunday episode clip.

01:14:21.000 The Akron Beacon Journal?

01:14:23.000 That's my hometown, baby.

01:14:23.000 Yeah, that's the one.

01:14:24.000 That's right.

01:14:25.000 Milwaukee Sentinel Journal is also struggling.

01:14:27.000 Guess going to war with Ron Johnson didn't work out too well for him.

01:14:30.000 Just hiding behind a wall of text.

01:14:33.000 This is what is going to get you in the 21st century.

01:14:35.000 Bankruptcy.

01:14:36.000 You need a face.

01:14:37.000 Put a face online.

01:14:38.000 They need at least AI people, like AI avatars or something to say.

01:14:41.000 Nowadays, the...

01:14:49.000 It's never been more important.

01:14:50.000 Most people get their information from their phone, and whether it be news or entertainment, it has to be delivered in the way that the viewer is looking for it.

01:15:00.000 And that's why there are still a lot of viewers that watch CNN, but they're all very old. 0.99

01:15:05.000 They're boomers, maybe some Gen Xers, but anyone that's under 50. Well, their first step, which was to acquire a bunch of online publications, which, again, the conservative media has been doing just the online-only publication kind of non-profit model for 10, 15 years now.

01:15:26.000 Again, I'm as a guy from the Daily Signal.

01:15:28.000 That is, in fact, our model.

01:15:29.000 Guys like Hans Zork Weiss from Switzerland, who's been funding all of these non-profit companies Their viewership is also terrible.

01:15:43.000 There's just no market for being given regurgitated stuff.

01:15:46.000 That's the catch.

01:15:47.000 None of this stuff is original.

01:15:48.000 I guarantee you, if you pull up the MSNBC lineup...

01:15:53.000 I actually just dropped it underneath the tweet for the livestream itself.

01:15:57.000 On your ex?

01:15:58.000 Yeah.

01:16:00.000 It's a PDF uploaded of the annual Gannett report.

01:16:05.000 So the funny thing here with all of these outlets, again, whether it's the Daily Beast, you know, you throw up the...

01:16:21.000 It's just who can say the bad thing about Republicans, about the right, about Christians, if you're in Seattle, who can say the meanest thing about them in a way that drives the most clicks and appeals to the most suburban wine moms?

01:16:35.000 That's it.

01:16:36.000 That's the whole market.

01:16:37.000 Because they've lost 90s labor men working in factories.

01:16:40.000 They've pushed those men away.

01:16:43.000 Which page has USA Today's subscriber?

01:16:46.000 The last page, I think, actually.

01:16:49.000 Or just Control-F402.

01:16:51.000 Page 14 is the page.

01:16:53.000 14. Very much at the beginning.

01:16:55.000 Sorry about that.

01:16:55.000 I didn't realize it was that long.

01:16:57.000 Oh, good heavens.

01:16:57.000 Yeah, 137.

01:16:59.000 Oh, wow.

01:16:59.000 So $402,000 for USA Today only.

01:17:02.000 But that doesn't include daily subscribers.

01:17:05.000 So they have digital only and daily.

01:17:06.000 So I said just over 500,000.

01:17:08.000 Oh, you're right.

01:17:09.000 I see that.

01:17:10.000 And then what they're doing is they're saying the whole network of everything they own is 2 million.

01:17:15.000 Yes.

01:17:15.000 So that includes like Detroit, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Indy, Cincy, Columbus, a lot of Ohio represented here.

01:17:21.000 A lot of the Midwest because 90s labor kind of Democrats are the last crew that continually orders newspapers in the United States. 0.98

01:17:31.000 So you see a lot of Rust Belt newspaper organizations.

01:17:33.000 Oh, this is crazy.

01:17:34.000 The reason why I'm asking this, sorry to interrupt, is that I went on ChatGPT and tried asking it about these numbers and said 2 million.

01:17:51.000 As early as 2024, here to today, it's approximately 2 million digital subscribers.

01:17:55.000 I said, what about as of December? 0.99

01:17:56.000 As of December, it has 2 million digital subscribers and it's big, long-winded bullshit. 0.88

01:18:00.000 Then I said, according to Gannett, they have only around 300K. 0.97

01:18:03.000 It repeated itself again.

01:18:05.000 As of 2024, December 2024, they have approximately 2 million paid only.

01:18:08.000 I said, okay, you're wrong.

01:18:10.000 Apologies.

01:18:11.000 As of December of 2024, Gannett has approximately 2 million.

01:18:14.000 Again, I said, it says they do not release detailed information.

01:18:18.000 I said, yes, they do.

01:18:19.000 They have around 300K.

01:18:20.000 It then says, apologies, as of December 31st, 2024, they reported approximately 2 million digital, the same exact script over, I said, stop being so obtuse, I'm talking about just USA Today, same thing.

01:18:33.000 I said, stop, I said, you're effing wrong, stop repeating yourself, repeats itself the exact same thing.

01:18:38.000 Then, I dropped the link to the report you gave me, and it says this, as of December 31st, 2024, That's not even the source that I gave you.

01:19:00.000 That's wild it would suggest that.

01:19:02.000 It kept repeating the same block.

01:19:04.000 And I'm going to be real.

01:19:12.000 The reason that I point this out is incredibly petty because just a year ago, our show was on one radio station in Indianapolis.

01:19:20.000 And now it's expanded.

01:19:21.000 It's syndicating out.

01:19:22.000 It's getting bigger.

01:19:23.000 Your show, rightly so, is getting bigger.

01:19:25.000 The presence of markets that people want to participate in, they want to tune into, because we talk to them like real people, I'm never going to be anything more than just like a regular.

01:19:35.000 You guys never claim to be anything more than y 'all are either.

01:19:38.000 That's more appealing to people.

01:19:40.000 So when I see the...

01:19:52.000 But you're talking about the Akron Beacon Journal.

01:19:54.000 The Akron Beacon Journal.

01:19:56.000 Yeah, those are still given the prime placement.

01:19:59.000 For example, if they showed up to the White House press room under the Biden administration.

01:20:03.000 But if we who have a way larger market, I'm kicking the indie star in the WIBC, the Indianapolis market, by like a factor of two, three, or four.

01:20:12.000 I'm beating the local affiliate TV stations, like by Nextdoor, Fox 59, or those, everyone has the numbered stations.

01:20:18.000 Why are they given that kind of precedent?

01:20:20.000 It's because of the narrative they drive, not the audience they reach.

01:20:26.000 Yo, it's just Wikipedia.

01:20:29.000 Digital-only circulation, 142,212.

01:20:32.000 That's where the source is.

01:20:34.000 Oh my.

01:20:36.000 Oh my.

01:20:37.000 I don't know what that's supposed to mean or whatever.

01:20:40.000 To be fair, let's clarify.

01:20:41.000 They have a big network.

01:20:42.000 USA Today is not just USA Today.

01:20:44.000 It's a bunch of small, like Cincinnati.com or whatever.

01:20:47.000 They're all part of this big Gannett network.

01:20:49.000 Yeah, they all share stories with each other.

01:20:51.000 Yeah, and so they're saying that network is 2 million paid subscribers and okay, sure.

01:20:56.000 USA Today as a brand from 1982 is substantially less.

01:21:01.000 Yeah.

01:21:02.000 And it's crazy.

01:21:04.000 When ChadGPT lies to you, and Grok lies all the time, too. 0.94

01:21:08.000 Grok's miserably bad.

01:21:10.000 Gemini's the worst, though.

01:21:11.000 For the love of all that is holy, do not use Gemini for anything.

01:21:14.000 It is the worst.

01:21:15.000 Oh, you're making me want to use it.

01:21:17.000 No, no, no.

01:21:18.000 Don't look in that bubble.

01:21:19.000 It doesn't work.

01:21:19.000 Go ahead.

01:21:19.000 Use it.

01:21:21.000 If you go to Grok and say, you know, Grok, how many subscribers does this company have?

01:21:26.000 It'll just make up a random fake number.

01:21:27.000 It'll give you an answer.

01:21:28.000 And then you're like, oh, wow.

01:21:30.000 Fact check.

01:21:31.000 And then it will give you a fake link that when you click goes to a dead website.

01:21:36.000 That's what Grok does.

01:21:37.000 GPT repeats the same script over and over and over again.

01:21:41.000 But to be fair, with JetGPT, what it does is every time you ask it a question, it reads the entire conversation to formulate the answer.

01:21:49.000 It doesn't have a memory.

01:21:51.000 It just has the chat log, which it analyzes and then gives you.

01:21:54.000 So it's basically reading everything and then giving you an answer.

01:21:58.000 Gemini can't do this.

01:21:59.000 So I go on Gemini.

01:22:01.000 I open up VO3 to make a video, and I say, you know, give me a video.

01:22:05.000 I made a video today of a woman filming herself selfie-style saying, like, AI creatures will control you, and the end is near.

01:22:12.000 Neat.

01:22:13.000 What happens is you can only make four or five per day, and then it'll say limit reached, or it says cannot process too many requests in a short amount of time.

01:22:23.000 So then I type in, how many videos can I make per day?

01:22:27.000 And then the response it gives me is, you can make any amount of videos you want per day.

01:22:30.000 A great service like YouTube exists where you can post videos.

01:22:33.000 And I'm like, no, no, no.

01:22:34.000 How many VO3 videos can I make?

01:22:36.000 And it says VO3 is an excellent crypto program.

01:22:38.000 And I'm like, do you have any idea what I'm asking you?

01:22:42.000 It doesn't.

01:22:43.000 It has no memory.

01:22:44.000 So it gives you nonsensical answers every time you ask.

01:22:46.000 You can't.

01:22:47.000 It doesn't work.

01:22:48.000 And then there's generative AI that has memory.

01:22:50.000 But people are generally afraid of generative AI because it can learn on the fly and then take over.

01:22:56.000 Pretty quick.

01:22:58.000 It's the end.

01:23:00.000 This is what makes me think.

01:23:02.000 Let me play this video for you.

01:23:04.000 Here you go, guys.

01:23:05.000 Here you go.

01:23:05.000 You ready?

01:23:05.000 Here you go.

01:23:06.000 Humanity is over.

01:23:08.000 AI creatures will control you. 0.80

01:23:11.000 And you want me.

01:23:12.000 You want it.

01:23:15.000 Humanity is over.

01:23:16.000 And then my favorite response to this tweet was would.

01:23:19.000 Oh, my God.

01:23:21.000 I brought up that the news organizations that are hell-bent on using text are dying off because you need a face.

01:23:28.000 You need a charismatic.

01:23:29.000 And then, Phil, you pointed out it's the charisma of the speaker.

01:23:31.000 And my mind just goes to, well, then they're going to make AI girls like her giving you the news. 1.00

01:23:36.000 And if the computer ends up being more charismatic than the human...

01:23:41.000 And then it's going to give you this twisted information like ChatGPT where it just lies to you.

01:23:46.000 I'll lighten it up a little bit here because I've been trying to sit over here and think about how to say this in the most respectful way and I'm very much drawing a blank.

01:23:54.000 A producer at a colleague company who shall remain nameless but is one of the dailies has communicated that the best research AI is one of the girlfriend chatbots.

01:24:09.000 Really?

01:24:10.000 Yeah.

01:24:11.000 That if you go to one of the free kind of girlfriend chat bot character chat websites, you know, the kind that are like, you know, phone sex for the modern age. 0.77

01:24:20.000 Oh, yeah, it's all.

01:24:21.000 They do better research because they have to be good enough to...

01:24:24.000 One of my favorite AI moments was someone went to a car dealer website and then clicked their helpline and the help was you, the company had contracted JetGPT for their customer service.

01:24:38.000 And so the person Good.

01:24:47.000 It's very funny.

01:24:48.000 Let's jump to this next story, my friends.

01:24:50.000 We've got this from the Daily Mail.

01:24:53.000 Scientists studying spherical UFOs say they've discovered alien technology.

01:24:58.000 So this story's been going viral quite a bit.

01:25:00.000 Take a look at this video.

01:25:02.000 UFO sphere zigzags through the air and lands in Buga, Colombia.

01:25:11.000 This just happened, by the way.

01:25:13.000 So for those that are just listening, there's a sphere.

01:25:17.000 It's kind of, wow, it's moving weird.

01:25:19.000 What is it, a fishing line?

01:25:20.000 How are they doing that?

01:25:22.000 Well, I mean, it's obviously alien technology, Tim.

01:25:24.000 That proves it.

01:25:26.000 So it was filmed by tons of people.

01:25:28.000 It's just hovering over the sim that's currently being controlled.

01:25:31.000 And maybe it's a fake video.

01:25:33.000 I mean, this is the thing.

01:25:33.000 We're talking about AI and stuff, too.

01:25:34.000 Who knows?

01:25:35.000 How will we know what's real or not?

01:25:38.000 Now, check this out.

01:25:39.000 Here's the image.

01:25:40.000 It's got these strange markings on it.

01:25:42.000 Of course it does.

01:25:43.000 Exactly.

01:25:44.000 Now, hold on, right?

01:25:46.000 This is humans hoax, and there are a lot of humans, so I say probability is hoax.

01:25:52.000 Oh, totally.

01:25:53.000 But what I was talking to Ash and Forbes about is if we always assume everything is a hoax, we'll never discover anything.

01:25:58.000 Because if a sphere is flying through the sky, and it is alien, and we go, it's a hoax, I don't care, and you walk away, and you don't even pursue that.

01:26:05.000 How will you ever actually investigate and discover when it's not?

01:26:08.000 For me, the argument of a hoax is less about the fact that there's a sphere flying through the air.

01:26:08.000 Right.

01:26:12.000 That's the part.

01:26:13.000 Yeah, look into it.

01:26:14.000 I don't care who it's from.

01:26:14.000 That kind of a thing.

01:26:15.000 I want it looked into.

01:26:16.000 But this design on the screen, this looks like the most human design of, I want you to picture what aliens would say.

01:26:24.000 And it's a very human concept to put text around an image in a circular fashion.

01:26:30.000 How do you know?

01:26:31.000 Have you met an extraterrestrial intelligence?

01:26:35.000 We just spent the beginning of the conversation talking about Hillary Clinton.

01:26:38.000 I'm trying to bring...

01:26:40.000 No, I haven't met an alien, but there are ideas...

01:26:44.000 We don't know how aliens would write.

01:26:46.000 No, but you can look at kind of pattern recognition based on like a long-form process of human behavior and see things that are fascinating to the human eye that are likely only because of like, for example, how the moon and the sun interact.

01:26:59.000 based on our orbit with things like eclipses and things like that, that might suggest that humans are fascinated with circles around circles.

01:27:09.000 I'm just saying, when I look at this, I'm seeing, you know, human decides what looks really alien.

01:27:15.000 Oh, a bunch of shapes like moons and triangles with like circular weird scripty text.

01:27:21.000 Apparently it's names beginning with Z's and V's.

01:27:24.000 But that's true.

01:27:25.000 That's the sign right there.

01:27:27.000 Whenever humans are writing about aliens, the name is always a Z or a V. Zinu, Zeta Reticuli.

01:27:33.000 Yeah, a lot of times. 0.97

01:27:34.000 That's the bullshit they fed Bob, what's his name, Bob Lazar. 0.98

01:27:37.000 They told him there's a star system called Zeta Reticuli. 0.99

01:27:40.000 I don't know that...

01:27:44.000 Let's look at the crescent moon.

01:27:45.000 That's something you see on Earth for our moon because of the shadow that the sun...

01:27:50.000 Like, not all planets have moons.

01:27:52.000 It's not like it's a common...

01:27:55.000 Some planets have more than one.

01:27:56.000 Our moon is super unique the way it's held.

01:27:58.000 Most planets are spheres, and from a certain perspective, you would, and if they, you know, go around a star, which most people do.

01:28:06.000 And what if they're horns?

01:28:07.000 What?

01:28:08.000 What if they're horns?

01:28:09.000 Sideways horns, maybe. 0.97

01:28:10.000 What do you mean sideways?

01:28:11.000 And on the top, too.

01:28:12.000 Horns making a ring.

01:28:14.000 What if it's just meant to be a five-point star?

01:28:17.000 And you're interpreting the crescents because you see the moon.

01:28:20.000 Good point.

01:28:21.000 That's right.

01:28:26.000 I'm here for it.

01:28:27.000 Now tell me why the author said the drapes are blue.

01:28:29.000 They went inside and they said they found 18 microspheres arranged.

01:28:35.000 And it was a central nucleus they're calling a chip, but it was largely just a solid mass.

01:28:40.000 Aliens trying to teach us about conception.

01:28:42.000 Nah, I need more photos of the inside of this thing.

01:28:45.000 Okay.

01:28:47.000 Yeah, them holding the ball and just looking at me is not enough.

01:28:50.000 If this was real, they would have broken that thing apart.

01:28:53.000 What kind of metal this is made out of?

01:28:55.000 I don't think they would have split it open and studied it?

01:28:56.000 Eventually they would, but not right now.

01:28:58.000 Well, as long as you hold the sphere open with a screwdriver, everyone should be totally safe.

01:29:02.000 There's so much tech.

01:29:03.000 Who gets that? 0.95

01:29:04.000 There's these balls. 0.98

01:29:05.000 No, I didn't get it. 0.92

01:29:09.000 He used to, there was a scientist who used to play fast and loose by putting a screwdriver between, what was it, uranium or something?

01:29:15.000 Yeah, plutonium on the inside.

01:29:17.000 And then he would get dangerously close, like, ha ha!

01:29:18.000 And it emits like a really cool blue radiation, you know, the kind that gives you prostate cancer.

01:29:23.000 And it blasted and killed him.

01:29:24.000 That's like the first guy that died to nuclear radiation?

01:29:26.000 No, the first one that we can really think.

01:29:28.000 Marie Curie, where we get a lot of our knowledge of.

01:29:31.000 That woman was more radioactive than a Fallout game, man. 1.00

01:29:35.000 This guy with the screwdriver touched the plate, and he felt a strong pain in his arm, and then days later he died. 0.73

01:29:41.000 No, your mucus.

01:29:42.000 Screwdriver guy was showing off with a screwdriver between the two.

01:29:45.000 Like, if they touch, we'll all die.

01:29:46.000 and then one day he went, whoops, and they died.

01:29:48.000 Okay, I'd see on Amazon.com or any...

01:29:53.000 Why are you buying balls on Amazon.com?

01:29:55.000 I love Amazon balls. 0.98

01:29:57.000 They fly through the air.

01:29:58.000 And it's because they got internal gyroscoctic rotors and propellers.

01:30:03.000 It could be that simple.

01:30:04.000 You know, a UFO...

01:30:12.000 What I would say is, again, I, of course, lean towards, I'm skeptical.

01:30:17.000 Somebody's doing a hoax, whatever.

01:30:19.000 Maybe they want to sell the orb, so they made a giant metal husk, staged a fake drone flying around, and they're going to sell the metal husk, and you can't do anything about it.

01:30:26.000 And they'll just say, it's alien tech, you can't prove it.

01:30:27.000 Great, another Hunter Biden art project gone awry.

01:30:30.000 Sell it for half a million dollars or something.

01:30:32.000 But they would not just break it open.

01:30:34.000 They would do that probably eventually, but they want to keep it intact as it operates now to learn as much about it as it is intact as possible.

01:30:45.000 Use like radar tomography, what they're doing with the pyramids, so you can like Doppler tomographies, you can measure the insides by measuring seismic vibration and then translating it into, I think, what is it, phonons?

01:30:57.000 Phonons?

01:30:57.000 Yeah, sound waves.

01:30:58.000 Sound particles, rather.

01:31:00.000 I mean, they're theoretical.

01:31:02.000 Yeah.

01:31:03.000 Oh, we just got an announcement from Secretary Rubio at 646.

01:31:08.000 The U.S. will begin revoking visas.

01:31:10.000 Oh, you guys already say that?

01:31:12.000 No, we have this story pulled up.

01:31:13.000 Oh, sorry.

01:31:14.000 I just noticed it.

01:31:14.000 My team started messaging me.

01:31:16.000 They were like, Tony, you haven't talked about this.

01:31:17.000 My God.

01:31:18.000 So what do you think, Tony?

01:31:19.000 Alien or human?

01:31:21.000 Well, I just want to know if it's a human.

01:31:24.000 I want to know what nationality pulled this off. 0.87

01:31:26.000 Because do you think this is like a Colombian kind of prank they would pull? 1.00

01:31:29.000 Or this is someone like internationally?

01:31:31.000 Yeah.

01:31:32.000 Who speaks Spanish?

01:31:36.000 On the bugosphere.

01:31:41.000 It fell to earth after receiving a 10,000 volt discharge.

01:31:45.000 Out.

01:31:45.000 How?

01:31:47.000 I mean...

01:31:58.000 I don't even believe that it was flying.

01:32:00.000 How would you measure if it achieved...

01:32:09.000 What?

01:32:10.000 That's not something you achieve.

01:32:12.000 Like, a discharge is a giving off of, and where they have the right instrument pointed at that to measure.

01:32:16.000 We don't just have, like, hey, honey, what did the rain gauge say?

01:32:18.000 What did the electrical discharge meter say?

01:32:21.000 Here's the update.

01:32:24.000 Scientist delivers ominous message to humanity after a UFO covered in strange writing is found.

01:32:30.000 He says, one of the mistakes we make is saying, because I think I understand this, everything I think today is true, and ends up making us very confused and something shows up that doesn't fit our model of the world.

01:32:40.000 Who knows?

01:32:41.000 Yeah.

01:32:42.000 The sphere itself seems like some kind of art project, the UFO researcher said, adding that she believes it was created by humans, not aliens.

01:32:48.000 Wait, is that the doctor they're talking about, Mossbridge?

01:32:52.000 I'm taking points off for what on God's green earth that jacket is.

01:32:56.000 Oh, that's funny.

01:32:57.000 That's not a bearskin jacket.

01:32:58.000 He's saying it's human, so you're saying it's aliens?

01:32:59.000 Yeah, I'd sooner believe that jacket's alien skin than I would that metal sphere.

01:33:04.000 But you agree with her.

01:33:06.000 Wait, is that a guy?

01:33:07.000 Julia got it.

01:33:07.000 Oh no, it's a girl.

01:33:08.000 You agree with her then?

01:33:09.000 That what?

01:33:10.000 She's saying this is made by humans.

01:33:12.000 Yeah, I'd agree with that.

01:33:13.000 I still think the jacket's very suspicious looking.

01:33:15.000 That thing looks like a myth.

01:33:16.000 I was confused because you were insulting her jacket saying you didn't believe her, but that she was saying it was by humans, so it implied you thought this was an alien craft.

01:33:22.000 She's got kind of a Gary Oldman from Fifth Element vibe going on.

01:33:24.000 Yeah, and just needs the mustache. 0.78

01:33:26.000 What was that guy's name?

01:33:27.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:33:28.000 He's crazy, though. 0.62

01:33:31.000 What was his name?

01:33:32.000 He was great.

01:33:33.000 The next long enough to be one of the Kamino people from Star Wars. 0.98

01:33:36.000 She's about to tell Obi-Wan the clones are ready.

01:33:38.000 Zorg. 0.98

01:33:39.000 Zorb?

01:33:39.000 Yeah, Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg.

01:33:41.000 He's great.

01:33:42.000 Gary Oldman.

01:33:43.000 Zorg. 0.99

01:33:44.000 Okay, yeah, human-made nonsense.

01:33:46.000 Some kid in his laboratory fabricated a metal ball with some rotor inside of it and sent it flying.

01:33:52.000 Or it's fake.

01:33:53.000 Like you, Phil, I'll watch videos now and I'm still at the inflection point where I wonder, is this real or is it a deep fake?

01:33:59.000 It's changing.

01:34:00.000 I'm thinking about it less and less.

01:34:01.000 I just assume everything is fake.

01:34:03.000 If it flies that well, dude, I want one.

01:34:05.000 I mean, I'd play mid-air pool.

01:34:07.000 That'd be awesome.

01:34:07.000 Wouldn't you?

01:34:08.000 It would be awesome.

01:34:10.000 Can you put English on those properly?

01:34:12.000 Me?

01:34:13.000 No, absolutely not.

01:34:13.000 I can't.

01:34:14.000 I'm saying, could you want one?

01:34:16.000 Use one of the Chinese balloons as a pool cue?

01:34:17.000 Honestly, you know why I think it's not real?

01:34:19.000 Why?

01:34:20.000 Because the U.S. would have gone in with armed dudes and seized it in two seconds.

01:34:25.000 Please, when you make a clip of this for Instagram later, as you say that, I expect Fortunate Son to start lifting in, as you say the U.S. would fly in.

01:34:33.000 And then we just show that video of the cops breaking through the ceiling and kicking the door in.

01:34:37.000 FBI, open up!

01:34:38.000 Yeah, why would they allow this technology to fall into the hands of Columbia?

01:34:43.000 Yeah, why Columbia?

01:34:44.000 Who's out there like, alright, we need the most impressive human civilization?

01:34:48.000 Hey, how about Columbia over there?

01:34:50.000 Just fly it over.

01:34:51.000 Well, no, I think the aliens, if aliens did come or anyone was doing research, they'd probably have these all over the place in every country.

01:34:57.000 Oh, man.

01:34:58.000 And spermia. 0.99

01:34:59.000 You've got to seed the entire planet in the hopes that somebody will find one of them.

01:35:03.000 Back to the conception thing.

01:35:03.000 Well, like, bro, we have satellites pointed at every direction of this planet.

01:35:07.000 We don't just have satellites over Columbia.

01:35:09.000 Well, except where the January 6th pipe bomb was.

01:35:13.000 The one place the satellites are just turned off.

01:35:15.000 Yeah, oh man, and outside the Situation Room where the cocaine bag was.

01:35:18.000 Maybe it was Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:35:19.000 I knew it.

01:35:20.000 All the cameras turned off as she walked.

01:35:22.000 She was never just chilling in Cedar Rapids.

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01:36:20.000 And of course, my friends.

01:36:21.000 We're going to be rolling out some new Boonies HQ skateboards.

01:36:25.000 And so these are going to exit rotation at some point.

01:36:28.000 We have sold out numerous times of the 28th Amendment skateboard.

01:36:32.000 Now you may be asking, Tim, what is the 28th Amendment?

01:36:34.000 No such amendment exists.

01:36:35.000 Well, I propose it.

01:36:37.000 It reads, chickens being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed.

01:36:46.000 If you believe that the right to keep bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed, this is a skateboard for you.

01:36:51.000 So pick it up at boonieshq.com.

01:36:53.000 We've got a bunch of other boards.

01:36:55.000 We've got the right to arm bears as well.

01:36:57.000 Which was another proposed 20th Amendment.

01:36:58.000 I don't know why, but, you know, sounds fun.

01:37:01.000 And we're going to be rolling out, I believe in a couple weeks, our Pride Month collection.

01:37:06.000 Thank you. 0.96

01:37:06.000 That's pretty gay. 0.96

01:37:08.000 You'll see. 0.97

01:37:09.000 I imagine it will not be what you think.

01:37:11.000 We are going to sell out of these things so fast.

01:37:13.000 But I think we have three skateboard models which will be coming out for our Pride Month collection.

01:37:19.000 The Care Bears.

01:37:21.000 Just Ian hugging Phil.

01:37:22.000 If I may, I just found kind of the boonies store and was looking through these.

01:37:27.000 These designs are rad.

01:37:28.000 I don't skateboard.

01:37:29.000 I did a little BMX a long, long time ago.

01:37:32.000 But I want some of these.

01:37:33.000 The Step on Snake is unmatched.

01:37:36.000 Step on Snake and find out.

01:37:37.000 I like the Bucko one, too.

01:37:39.000 His face.

01:37:40.000 Yeah, the Bocas, dude. 1.00

01:37:41.000 Just what art.

01:37:42.000 Look at that.

01:37:43.000 The colors.

01:37:44.000 And it's roosters.

01:37:44.000 That kind of looks like a Colombian sphere to me.

01:37:47.000 Look at the horns.

01:37:49.000 It was a cat inside the sphere the whole time.

01:37:50.000 It's actually two rooster faces and a...

01:37:54.000 The 28th Amendment says you have the right to breed those. 0.89

01:37:56.000 Indeed.

01:37:57.000 And everyone loved the boobies board. 0.79

01:37:58.000 We sold out of this one.

01:37:59.000 We sold out of most of these over and over and over again, so we restocked them.

01:38:02.000 But we're going to start phasing out the graphics soon because they've been up for about four or five months, and then we've got new ones coming in.

01:38:07.000 So they'll become collector's items.

01:38:09.000 But let's grab your chats, my friends.

01:38:12.000 Don't forget we're going to have that uncensored call-in show coming up at 10. That should be fun and spicy.

01:38:17.000 All right.

01:38:18.000 Shinich Wilder says, Secret Service women getting into a catfight just shows that while we may love them to death, they don't need to be in these roles. 1.00

01:38:24.000 All over someone being late?

01:38:25.000 Maybe ask why they were late first.

01:38:27.000 Did you guys hear this story?

01:38:28.000 No, whatever.

01:38:28.000 I didn't know that's why, though.

01:38:29.000 Two Secret Service agents outside of the Obama's house got into a catfight.

01:38:33.000 Like, physically?

01:38:34.000 Yeah, they were beating each other.

01:38:36.000 It was great.

01:38:36.000 It was like the Waffle House vine where, like, the two servers were like, can I please get a waffle?

01:38:41.000 And they're, like, smacking each other.

01:38:42.000 That's what the Secret Service agents were doing.

01:38:43.000 Were they armed?

01:38:45.000 Well, yeah, of course.

01:38:46.000 What happens if you attack another officer, and if you're both on duty, who's the one?

01:38:52.000 The person who initiated the attack.

01:38:53.000 The hotter one.

01:38:55.000 And then you don't charge them for attacking someone with a weapon.

01:38:58.000 I'm going to charge admission to watch.

01:39:00.000 No, they would both be wrong.

01:39:01.000 That's both indecent conduct, and they would...

01:39:05.000 Now, the Secret Service is different.

01:39:06.000 I'm just saying, from what I understand of local law enforcement, that those are usually the rules that apply.

01:39:12.000 like the one who incited the incident, because the other one's in defense.

01:39:18.000 Well, how about this?

01:39:19.000 and then going for the weave. 0.94

01:39:20.000 I don't know if that's...

01:39:24.000 We're both cops, and we both have holster-loaded weapons, and I were to aggress on you and attack you.

01:39:29.000 Bro, not only do I have a weapon, you have a weapon, and you're a cop.

01:39:33.000 Like, I don't feel like I should have...

01:39:36.000 You'd have a right to defend yourself with the force you deem appropriate.

01:39:38.000 And would I be charged with the same crime as a civilian attacking a cop?

01:39:42.000 Are you a Democrat or a Republican?

01:39:45.000 I'm unaffiliated.

01:39:46.000 I could go either way.

01:39:48.000 As long as you say, vote Democrat 2028, then they'll let you go.

01:39:52.000 Just give them the old salute.

01:39:54.000 Your color and gender is giving you a little bit of a rough time on that one. 0.96

01:39:58.000 Let's grab some more.

01:39:59.000 We got Picorad.

01:40:02.000 As to your 6pm segment, the race swapping of characters is another layer of insult.

01:40:06.000 It's as if Hollywood feels black people can't make it in movies unless they play an existing white character.

01:40:10.000 I agree.

01:40:11.000 I call these hand-me-down characters.

01:40:13.000 Whenever they do the race swapping, my response is always, just make a character for these people.

01:40:20.000 I don't understand.

01:40:21.000 They keep taking, it's like Ariel.

01:40:24.000 Now Ariel the mermaid is black.

01:40:26.000 And it's like, okay.

01:40:28.000 But Ariel is a white character that was made.

01:40:31.000 A long time ago, and people identify with as, like, something they grew up with, they have nostalgia for.

01:40:36.000 Why not just make a new movie and have black characters? 0.91

01:40:40.000 Hey, Shang-Chi, that's a good one. 1.00

01:40:42.000 I like that movie.

01:40:43.000 That was great.

01:40:43.000 I think it made a lot of money.

01:40:44.000 And it's an Asian character who does kung fu and stuff.

01:40:48.000 So they don't always do the race swap.

01:40:50.000 And the new Lilo and Stitch live action, the Cobra Bubbles, you know, the CPS guy.

01:40:55.000 You've never seen Lilo and Stitch, the original?

01:40:56.000 Nope.

01:40:56.000 It's a good movie.

01:40:57.000 I think you'd like it.

01:40:58.000 But the guy, they had like a child protective service.

01:41:01.000 He's working for the government. 0.97

01:41:02.000 And he's a black guy. 0.88

01:41:04.000 And in the new movie, he got to keep his skin color. 0.73

01:41:07.000 They didn't do any race swapping there.

01:41:08.000 They don't race swap the other direction is the issue.

01:41:10.000 Correct.

01:41:11.000 That's what people are mad about.

01:41:12.000 Like, could you imagine, this is the go-to example, but they remake Black Panther, but it's a white guy.

01:41:17.000 I think we should do that.

01:41:19.000 Eventually, yeah.

01:41:19.000 I think we should make a short film, Black Panther, and just have Ian play King T 'Challa.

01:41:24.000 And never mention a word about it.

01:41:26.000 No.

01:41:26.000 That'd be great.

01:41:27.000 You'd just be King T 'Challa. 0.99

01:41:28.000 And then have, like, The Flash, but it's a dude in a wheelchair.

01:41:30.000 And it would be Ian saying things like, I was born in Africa, and I am the king of this land!

01:41:34.000 And we'd be like, no, no, no, he's just acting.

01:41:36.000 That was a good act.

01:41:37.000 That was a good impression.

01:41:38.000 I like it.

01:41:39.000 King T 'Challa?

01:41:39.000 Yeah.

01:41:39.000 I'd have to nail the accent, though, or it'd be cultural appropriation.

01:41:42.000 There's a few more things you'd have to nail.

01:41:44.000 A Wakandan accent?

01:41:46.000 Either way, it'll be cultural appropriation.

01:41:48.000 Okay.

01:41:50.000 I always wondered why in Black Panther, Wakanda speaks English.

01:41:54.000 The point of the movie was that colonists went to other countries and they were safe and protected, but they all still were forced to adopt English as their common language.

01:42:03.000 I get it.

01:42:04.000 They speak Zosa as well, but they're all just speaking English for our convenience. 0.58

01:42:09.000 For convenience, yeah.

01:42:11.000 Let's have Ian play King T 'Challa.

01:42:14.000 You should do it, Ian.

01:42:15.000 I would love to play a black dude.

01:42:16.000 That'd be cool.

01:42:18.000 You should.

01:42:18.000 I do the best I could, man.

01:42:20.000 You should definitely.

01:42:21.000 Shaka Zulu.

01:42:21.000 Let's make a movie where Ian is Shaka Zulu.

01:42:23.000 Oh, I'm here for it.

01:42:24.000 I'm here for it.

01:42:25.000 And then, like, Asian Lady Caesar to fight him. 1.00

01:42:27.000 It'd be great.

01:42:28.000 Did you guys ever see Black Dynamite?

01:42:32.000 In that epic rap battles of history they fight.

01:42:34.000 I know that.

01:42:34.000 No, but they were a different time period.

01:42:36.000 Shaka Zulu and who?

01:42:38.000 Caesar.

01:42:39.000 There was an epic rap battles of history where they had him fight because they're both known for legendary flanking maneuvers.

01:42:44.000 Oh, oh, solid.

01:42:46.000 Shout out to Black Dynamite. 1.00

01:42:47.000 That movie's awesome.

01:42:48.000 The lead guy is black.

01:42:50.000 I don't like calling people white or black. 0.80

01:42:51.000 Oh, whoa, Shaka Zulu's very modernist.

01:42:53.000 I didn't realize he was 1787.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, Shaka. 0.96

01:42:56.000 That dude was crazy.

01:42:57.000 Serge knows probably more about Shaka because he's from South Africa, but I mean, Shaka. 0.94

01:43:03.000 Modern culture doesn't talk enough about this.

01:43:05.000 Was he a psychopath?

01:43:06.000 What was his deal?

01:43:07.000 He was considered to be an extremely brutal warrior.

01:43:10.000 And just warrior culture.

01:43:12.000 He had a Zulu nation.

01:43:14.000 But they had this stick with a ball at the end of it, and they would go whack and just crack your skull open.

01:43:19.000 Yeah.

01:43:19.000 And then what?

01:43:20.000 The Brits came in with their rifles, and that was the end of it?

01:43:23.000 Well, not just the Brits.

01:43:24.000 And the Dutch. 0.68

01:43:25.000 Lots of people.

01:43:26.000 Yeah.

01:43:26.000 And the other African countries who bought the rifles.

01:43:29.000 Oh.

01:43:30.000 Let's grab some more here.

01:43:32.000 We got Max Reddick says, Rob Nower or Andrew Wilson v.

01:43:35.000 Destiny on Culture War.

01:43:36.000 Destiny is salty because...

01:43:46.000 And then someone, we were on the show, I can't remember, someone asked me about it.

01:43:48.000 I said, well, we can't have him on the show anymore because he's gloating and calling for death.

01:43:51.000 It's like a bannable offense.

01:43:52.000 So that's his deal.

01:43:53.000 And I think he even got in trouble on Twitch for it or something.

01:43:56.000 Then he got really pissed off and went on some tirade about how I said that because he'd been on the show before.

01:44:00.000 Now he's just absolutely like, I won't go, I won't work with him.

01:44:03.000 He's Russian, blah, blah, blah, which is just, oh, whatever, dude. 1.00

01:44:06.000 That'd be cool though.

01:44:07.000 I like all three of those guys.

01:44:09.000 It wouldn't be cool at all. 1.00

01:44:11.000 You got Andrew Wilson's the shit. 0.99

01:44:14.000 You got Rob Miller's awesome. 1.00

01:44:15.000 We're talking about the next culture war and maybe the Krasensteins would... 0.99

01:44:19.000 That would be very cool.

01:44:21.000 Those guys are great, too.

01:44:21.000 I mean, of the liberals, they're the most willing to engage.

01:44:25.000 We went out to dinner.

01:44:26.000 That's true.

01:44:26.000 He goes back and forth with the Ministry of Truth every once in a while.

01:44:29.000 That's always a fun time.

01:44:30.000 Who does?

01:44:31.000 One of the Krasensteins always do.

01:44:33.000 They'll look back and forth.

01:44:34.000 Oh, nice.

01:44:35.000 Yeah, they're kind of meta-gaming, playing the game.

01:44:39.000 Of reality.

01:44:40.000 Like, they're real smart dudes.

01:44:41.000 and they were known for being Trump reply guys, but they're the kind of guys like you'll have an intense debate and then go out to dinner afterwards and talk about it.

01:44:49.000 Yeah, they know how to make money and how to generate activity.

01:44:52.000 You know, this is why people were asking me with the Bill Maher thing why I wasn't going off like I did with Adam Conover.

01:44:57.000 And I'm like, because Bill was nice to me?

01:44:58.000 Adam Conover was being snooty and got agitated with me and then started acting like I was doing something wrong.

01:45:04.000 And then for 40 minutes, Adam Conover asked me the same question over and over.

01:45:08.000 I kept saying, okay, dude, you've asked me the question about Ramesa Ozturk.

01:45:13.000 I get it.

01:45:13.000 And he kept going.

01:45:14.000 And so then it got heated because you get what you give.

01:45:18.000 But with Bill, he started by cracking open booze, asking me if I wanted any booze or drinks or whatever.

01:45:25.000 They were very nice to me.

01:45:27.000 Bill would get heated more than I was and then intentionally try and tone things down, and I respect that.

01:45:33.000 The one thing I want to add, too, is people, even we had this criticism.

01:45:38.000 Charlie Kirk was on Club Random, and there was some issue that came up, and I said, why wasn't Charlie Kirk pushing back?

01:45:45.000 Now I know why.

01:45:46.000 Because you go into the room and you sit down, and Bill walks in right away, and he just starts asking questions about yourself because he never met you before.

01:45:53.000 It is not a welcome to the political debate.

01:45:58.000 It literally is him.

01:45:59.000 If you watch it, he's like, where are you from?

01:46:02.000 What do you do?

01:46:03.000 And so it's not that kind of environment where it's so easy to just be like, hold on, I'm now going to change the subject, stop our conversation, and bring up a point I want to bring up.

01:46:12.000 You're just having a conversation with a guy you just met.

01:46:14.000 So as much as professionally I've criticized Bill, it was funny.

01:46:19.000 I told him that.

01:46:19.000 I said, I think one of our most viewed clips is us talking about you critically.

01:46:23.000 And he laughed and said, you're allowed to be wrong.

01:46:26.000 That was a good response.

01:46:27.000 He also appreciates that from others.

01:46:29.000 He appreciates that about Trump.

01:46:31.000 He gave a whole riot act of stuff against Trump, and Trump's like, well, it is what it is.

01:46:37.000 It's funny.

01:46:38.000 Well, I mean, that's very typical of people that would consider themselves not.

01:46:43.000 The woke, right?

01:46:45.000 Even though, you know, people can say what they want about Bill, he doesn't really consider himself woke.

01:46:49.000 He definitely goes after the, you know, more crazy aspects of the left and he calls him out for doing damage to the Democrat Party and brand.

01:46:59.000 That was another big, big component about it is that he was bragging on wokeness quite a bit.

01:47:05.000 It was a great conversation.

01:47:07.000 I feel like, you know, the first thing I told him was that I used to watch Bill Maher all the time.

01:47:12.000 Me, my boy Brandon, hanging out at Roger's house every Friday.

01:47:17.000 They're smoking pot and blowing it in their iguana's face watching Real Time with Bill Maher.

01:47:21.000 And I feel like if Bill was getting his news direct from the source, he'd be in complete agreement with us.

01:47:26.000 The only thing is he believes all of this cable TV news stuff about Trump.

01:47:30.000 When it comes to the woke stuff, he completely agrees.

01:47:33.000 And I even pointed out the reason why I don't believe that woke means critical race theory or critical theory.

01:47:41.000 Two big reasons, military-industrial complex and Islam. 0.99

01:47:44.000 It makes literally no sense to claim that Islam is an oppressed group of people when it's the second largest religion in the world and one of the most militaristic and dominant in a large portion of the planet.

01:47:54.000 To then claim they're oppressed makes no sense.

01:47:57.000 Then you have the military-industrial complex where they say it's bad but support the wars.

01:48:01.000 So that wokeness just is the cult of the left.

01:48:04.000 But he largely agreed when I pointed out.

01:48:12.000 Like, they're not oppressed.

01:48:15.000 It doesn't fit their narrative.

01:48:17.000 Bill has been tied into the pulse of reality at least for 25 years.

01:48:22.000 I remember Politically Incorrect was his show right after 9-11.

01:48:28.000 I mean, this is like two days after 9-11.

01:48:29.000 Bill goes on this nationally syndicated show and tells everyone, okay.

01:48:35.000 Just hold on a second, everyone.

01:48:38.000 Try and maybe see things from their perspective for a minute.

01:48:40.000 These people that attacked the United States.

01:48:42.000 We haven't been treating them very good.

01:48:44.000 And without any time, any days to explain what he was talking about, his show got canceled.

01:48:49.000 I mean, Big Brother was on him.

01:48:51.000 That's crazy.

01:48:52.000 1993.

01:48:53.000 That's when his show started.

01:48:54.000 And he was like a voice of reason, of moral reasoning in 2001 after the bloodlust and fervor took over the nation.

01:49:02.000 This obsession with conquering the Middle East.

01:49:04.000 And Bill just stood up to it, and they canceled his show.

01:49:07.000 Then he went kind of underground, and he was a little more like, well, I'm going to win this game.

01:49:13.000 Yeah, I just want to tell people, like, yo, people are old.

01:49:16.000 1993, that would make me, what, seven years old?

01:49:20.000 Six, seven years old?

01:49:22.000 Bill Maher was, what would that make him, 37?

01:49:26.000 I put him in a group with, like, Abby Martin and Luke Rutkowski.

01:49:29.000 They were like people in 2003 that were speaking out against the war machine.

01:49:33.000 And Bill Maher was one of those people.

01:49:35.000 Well, Luke was like a teenager, but...

01:49:39.000 Let's grab the super chat.

01:49:40.000 We got glazed donut.

01:49:42.000 Society is collapsing.

01:49:43.000 Two weekends ago, 300 TikTok teens brawled at Menlo Park Mall in New Jersey.

01:49:47.000 Nice.

01:49:48.000 Last weekend, another 300 teens shut down the Woodbridge Carnival and then took over the Woodbridge Mall.

01:49:53.000 I agree.

01:49:54.000 That's why I got out of the cities. 1.00

01:49:56.000 I was watching an escalation of the shit. 0.99

01:49:58.000 People were planting bombs in New York. 0.99

01:49:59.000 A bomb went off on 25th Street, and I was like, why?

01:50:02.000 Nobody knows.

01:50:03.000 Has anybody ever talked about the 25th Street bombing in Manhattan?

01:50:06.000 Can I pull this up?

01:50:07.000 Yo.

01:50:08.000 I mean, we've entered a point where, again, the classic criticism of kind of the Gen Z group, and I don't mean this as a criticism, this is actually a praise in a lot of ways as well, but the only thing that is sacred is nothing is sacred, and you're starting to reach a point where as the Gen Z becomes more polarized, you're starting to see groups of people just get out there and basically do anything to feel.

01:50:29.000 It's a very weird time because once everything's done, You can just get out there and do whatever.

01:50:34.000 Oh, wow.

01:50:34.000 23rd Street bombing.

01:50:35.000 Sorry, it was 23rd Street.

01:50:38.000 23rd Street, a bomb went off, injuring 29 people.

01:50:41.000 A second bomb was found on 27th, and then they found another explosive.

01:50:45.000 It was a bag with weird explosive bottles in it.

01:50:49.000 It was a fuel source or something in Jersey City.

01:50:51.000 And I'm just like, what is going on?

01:50:54.000 The smell.

01:50:56.000 I was just in Miami for a few weeks, and I tell you, God, the smell.

01:51:00.000 You can't escape the brake dust.

01:51:02.000 And there's the smog and congestion.

01:51:04.000 Then I come out here and it's like the fresh, sweet air.

01:51:06.000 I can smell the lavender.

01:51:08.000 It's amazing.

01:51:09.000 Dude, my team's always trying to convince me to move into Washington, D.C., where I can't carry openly.

01:51:14.000 And I despise it.

01:51:15.000 I love Indiana.

01:51:16.000 God bless the most underrated state in the union.

01:51:18.000 And I could not be convinced to move to a city, much less DC.

01:51:22.000 Are you in a summer?

01:51:23.000 Orb was spotted at Manchester.

01:51:25.000 Oh, let's talk about the orbs.

01:51:27.000 The orbs are causing the explosions.

01:51:29.000 Oh, no.

01:51:30.000 Come full circle.

01:51:30.000 Do you live in a semi?

01:51:31.000 Rural area?

01:51:32.000 Suburb?

01:51:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:51:34.000 It's kind of the same place I grew up.

01:51:37.000 But yeah, a little bit of a smaller town backed up against some rural, and I love it, man.

01:51:41.000 Did you ever live in a big city?

01:51:44.000 I've spent an extended amount of time in some big cities, and I've really just despised every ounce of it I've gotten.

01:51:51.000 We've got to grab more superchance.

01:51:53.000 We've got Not Your Average Dan says, Tim, quote, I'm starting to get the itch, unquote.

01:51:57.000 They have medication for that.

01:51:58.000 Indeed.

01:51:59.000 Yeah, I'll never be involved in politics. 0.95

01:52:00.000 My point is, what makes me want to be, I would love to be a lunatic in government.

01:52:08.000 Like, I know that Cash and Dan get in there and they're like, okay, we gotta do this right.

01:52:12.000 I'd just go in and start flipping things over.

01:52:14.000 Like, I'd just hand, I'd be like, here's the entire contents of all of our documents to Congress.

01:52:19.000 Have fun!

01:52:21.000 And they'd be like, but that's going to undermine a lot of ongoing criminal cases.

01:52:23.000 Don't care.

01:52:24.000 You wouldn't want to go piece by piece and be like, well, this one would upset the Qatari nationals. 0.86

01:52:28.000 We've got to put this one for level five.

01:52:31.000 Give it to Congress your responsibility.

01:52:32.000 Here, Congress, here's everything we've got.

01:52:33.000 Don't care.

01:52:35.000 I think they're doing a lot of that curation.

01:52:37.000 I think Dan and Cash are taking a lot of the Crossfire Hurricane stuff and things that they think is corrupt and giving it, but they're not giving everything because they're still trying to maintain the integrity.

01:52:48.000 What little air is of the FBI.

01:52:50.000 My attitude is like, I'd love to just get in there and be like, here's a USB drive.

01:52:56.000 It'll give you unfettered, absolute access to all our documents.

01:52:59.000 Have fun.

01:52:59.000 Everyone here, have unlimited energy, everyone.

01:53:02.000 Free access to electricity.

01:53:03.000 I don't know if that exists, but...

01:53:06.000 Yep.

01:53:08.000 I mean, it's inevitable.

01:53:09.000 It'll destroy civilization, but you know.

01:53:12.000 And it'll have to rebuild itself.

01:53:13.000 What do you mean it's inevitable?

01:53:15.000 Free energy?

01:53:16.000 Yeah.

01:53:17.000 That's inevitable?

01:53:18.000 It's not inevitable because it's not possible.

01:53:20.000 It's literally sitting here listening.

01:53:22.000 Like the sun.

01:53:23.000 Okay, hold on.

01:53:26.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:53:30.000 Functional.

01:53:31.000 For fun, for instance.

01:53:31.000 Well...

01:53:33.000 No.

01:53:33.000 Free.

01:53:34.000 It's going to go out one day, but...

01:53:37.000 Yeah, but for a human lifespan, it's infinite energy.

01:53:39.000 The point is controlling the energy is the point we're making, not just having the sun blasts in the face.

01:53:44.000 So the issue is...

01:53:53.000 That is the ultimate goal, largely with fusion.

01:53:57.000 The input is so minimal, the output is massive, and that's what we're hoping happens.

01:54:03.000 Maybe it's not inevitable.

01:54:04.000 The problem with that is just that as you start to increase some things, you increase others, namely gravity.

01:54:09.000 And you start to create some really high temperature to a point that you just can't contain it, and then high gravity so that things start getting real screwy real quick.

01:54:17.000 So, again, I think that nuclear fuel is, in fact, a great way to go.

01:54:21.000 But if we ever start brushing up against fission, I think that has to be something constructed in space.

01:54:25.000 Fusion?

01:54:26.000 Fusion.

01:54:26.000 Fission now, fusion later.

01:54:28.000 Yeah, you can do saltwater.

01:54:30.000 Yes, that's what I mean.

01:54:30.000 Fission's great.

01:54:31.000 Fission, we can do now.

01:54:32.000 Fusion later in space.

01:54:34.000 That's what we're going to take to construct it.

01:54:35.000 We have ignition already for fusion, according to modern reports.

01:54:38.000 JPL, yeah.

01:54:39.000 But it's containing it once it gets going.

01:54:41.000 Yeah.

01:54:41.000 That's the problem, because you have it at significantly high temperature and then the mass.

01:54:45.000 If we assume the reports are correct, we've contained fusion ignition.

01:54:49.000 We can't capture the energy.

01:54:51.000 That's the problem.

01:54:52.000 So, like, when we burn wood and fire comes out, the question then becomes, that energy that's being released, how do we capture it?

01:55:00.000 And so what do we do?

01:55:01.000 Steam engines.

01:55:03.000 So you create fire.

01:55:04.000 All power is just boiling water.

01:55:05.000 It is.

01:55:06.000 But in the early days, a steam engine, you'd boil a vat of water, creating pressure, which would push out of a controlled space, creating the piston to rotate the wheels.

01:55:17.000 Then we figured out how to create rotating magnets to generate electrical currents, and so we used steam pressure to spin things.

01:55:25.000 The question for fusion is, we've reached ignition.

01:55:28.000 How do we capture that energy?

01:55:29.000 Basically, the fire is before us.

01:55:31.000 How do we turn that fire into energy that we can run through our system?

01:55:34.000 I picture, because you can make saltwater suns.

01:55:37.000 Basically, this guy John Kansas was looking for a cure to cancer, and he was running radio frequency through saltwater.

01:55:42.000 He found this frequency that lit the saltwater on fire.

01:55:45.000 And you can look on YouTube, John Kansas, K-A-N-S-U-S.

01:55:49.000 Oh, God, what frequency was it?

01:55:51.000 It's up there.

01:55:52.000 And so he has a test tube and fire coming off.

01:55:54.000 But it was coming off the surface.

01:55:56.000 It looks like the sun, like the fire coming off the sun.

01:55:58.000 So I imagine the sun is like this saltwater fluidic ball that's getting hit by a frequency and it's lighting up.

01:56:04.000 So if we take saltwater out into orbit, let it coagulate into a sphere like water does in deep space, and then hit it with a frequency and light it up, we might be able to fuse chemicals in that.

01:56:14.000 All right, let's read more.

01:56:15.000 We got Not Your Average Dan saying, Ian, quote, I love Amazon balls. 0.68

01:56:18.000 They have medication for that. 0.54

01:56:21.000 What's the medication? 0.97

01:56:22.000 More Amazon balls. 1.00

01:56:24.000 Hold My Beer says, have you seen that the Texas governor swore the death penalty on two illegal immigrants who killed an Air Force cadet in a hit-and-run with a jet ski? 0.98

01:56:34.000 I saw the story of this young lady that was killed.

01:56:39.000 They captured the people, right?

01:56:42.000 From the hit-and-run?

01:56:42.000 The news about Abbott and whether or not these individuals have been captured, things like that, that's news to me.

01:56:48.000 I haven't heard that update.

01:56:51.000 Yeah, I think they got arrested.

01:56:53.000 Good.

01:56:55.000 Two suspects arrested.

01:56:56.000 Yep.

01:56:59.000 Two arrested if your jet ski hit and run death of a Texas teenager.

01:57:04.000 Yep.

01:57:06.000 Rue Actual says, mark my words, Cash and Bongino are still DNC cucks.

01:57:09.000 There will never be a single arrest made.

01:57:11.000 Well, I don't agree with that.

01:57:13.000 Those guys are legit.

01:57:15.000 Yeah, that's a bad statement, because I would argue that your worst case scenario is they arrest low-level staffers as scapegoats.

01:57:21.000 My outtake on this one is that the left, which always moves way too far and way too fast, has in fact played with fire that is finally going to get it burnt.

01:57:29.000 And that fire is, they have successfully pissed off the moderates.

01:57:32.000 Now, before you get out your full wine bottles to throw at me, here's a very small example.

01:57:37.000 You have all these low-level judges, we'll talk about a judicial example here, who have come forward and thrown injunction after injunction after injunction.

01:57:44.000 Of all of the Supreme Court justices who are already fed up with this, believe it or not, it's Roberts.

01:57:49.000 Roberts, the squish of squishes, is tired of injunction after injunction, and it's balkanizing the moderates against the left, which is a wild thing to watch in real time.

01:57:59.000 So I do think the left is going to push and push and push until arrests get made because they can't help themselves.

01:58:04.000 They can't just let this naturally die out.

01:58:06.000 For the first time, I've been using dating apps, and I saw someone on dating apps like, I don't want any MAGA people. 0.87

01:58:13.000 Also, no Biden-Harris freaks.

01:58:15.000 It was the first time I've seen both.

01:58:17.000 Usually it was a polarization of one, I don't want that kind.

01:58:20.000 How old was the person?

01:58:22.000 Also, was the person Arabic?

01:58:23.000 Was the name hailing from Middle Eastern lands?

01:58:26.000 I don't know, but I noticed that they didn't want either side for the first time ever.

01:58:30.000 Like, the left has given up on the...

01:58:37.000 We hate Kamala. 1.00

01:58:39.000 We hate Trump. 0.99

01:58:39.000 We hate everybody. 0.99

01:58:40.000 My mom brings me pizza rolls to the basement.

01:58:43.000 You know, the normal stuff.

01:58:45.000 They're likely communists.

01:58:47.000 If they hate Trump and Biden-Harris, they're likely communists.

01:58:51.000 The?

01:58:52.000 Socialists.

01:58:53.000 All right.

01:58:54.000 Some strength.

01:58:56.000 I don't know why he'd do it here.

01:59:13.000 Great debate.

01:59:14.000 But Ben's not going to do that, and it's largely due to, I would argue, like, the scale of personality.

01:59:22.000 Ben Shapiro, being one of the biggest conservative personalities, one of the most viewed podcasts, is going to be like, I'd rather just debate a higher-profile individual.

01:59:31.000 Yeah, there's people further up the chain that have this debate.

01:59:34.000 Scott's like the most knowledgeable man on the planet.

01:59:36.000 He sounds like...

01:59:39.000 And people make this criticism of Ben before.

01:59:41.000 There's a difference between sounding like the most knowledgeable person and actually bringing things that aren't disproven 14 hours later.

01:59:48.000 Scott Horton?

01:59:49.000 Anybody.

01:59:49.000 Anybody that starts throwing things out that it's like, oh yeah, we found out actually we're backtracking 800 feet because we were wrong in this initial report.

01:59:56.000 That's a good point.

01:59:56.000 It's easy to...

01:59:57.000 I would just counter with, considering how war with Iran could happen any day now, I would counter with...

02:00:14.000 So I should have a Ukraine-Russia debate with Ben Shapiro and Scott Horton.

02:00:18.000 So what? 0.95

02:00:19.000 The Ukrainians and NATO tried to assassinate Putin, blow up his helicopter with a bunch of drones, and then Trump blames Putin for being crazy?

02:00:29.000 Does he not know that NATO just made an assassin attempt?

02:00:33.000 This is what Alex Jones was talking about, too.

02:00:35.000 I don't know if Trump knows because now's not the time to go.

02:00:38.000 You know what?

02:00:39.000 Well, I mean, look, you're not going to get Like, if the United States walks away from the negotiations, we're not going to give money and more weapons to Ukraine.

02:00:50.000 And that means that Putin gets to do whatever he wants.

02:00:53.000 So as long as Putin doesn't want to come to the table, there's nothing we can do about it.

02:00:59.000 Like, the United States is in a real bind if Trump can't get Putin to the table.

02:01:03.000 And there's no reason for Putin to go to the table because he's winning.

02:01:08.000 And all they want is they want the U.S. to stop supporting Ukraine.

02:01:10.000 I've been watching Hitler take Poland. 0.64

02:01:12.000 Not watching, but studying it last night, just watching about the Third Reich.

02:01:15.000 And, like, if Putin wants the Donbass, that's one thing.

02:01:18.000 If he keeps going, he's going to literally start a global war.

02:01:25.000 Yeah, that's my thing.

02:01:26.000 That's my thing with the Iran comment as well.

02:01:28.000 We're going to be at war with Iran, and I'm like, okay, what is Iran going to do? 0.81

02:01:31.000 The same thing they just did with Israel? 0.89

02:01:33.000 What, are they going to launch more ballistic missiles?

02:01:35.000 I'm looking for the Iranian army being mustered. 0.99

02:01:39.000 Just because, even if the United States decided to endorse an Israeli strike and support an Israeli strike against Iran, that does not mean that that's going to turn into a boots-on-the-ground situation.

02:01:51.000 The U.S. killed Soleimani in Iran.

02:01:54.000 The Israelis were shooting missiles at Iran.

02:01:57.000 Iran was shooting missiles at the Israelis.

02:02:00.000 None of that means that there's going to be a boots-on-the-ground United States.

02:02:03.000 People realize you actually have to order the boots to be on the ground, right?

02:02:07.000 Like the war doesn't start and then just like It's like, oh, what?

02:02:10.000 It's evolving!

02:02:11.000 Boots on the ground!

02:02:13.000 I think that the president is aware, and J.D. Vance is definitely aware, the American people do not want to see another military engagement where there's Americans dying in a Middle Eastern country.

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02:04:24.000 Thanks for hanging out. 0.95

02:04:51.000 So Rubio is going to kick out all the Chinese people. 0.91

02:04:54.000 He says, if you're China, you got to go. 1.00

02:04:57.000 And it's a crazy story because Elad Eliyahu, our White House correspondent, actually asked Carolyn Levitt if this was the plan for the United States to revoke the visas of Chinese nationals who are going to school.

02:05:09.000 And sure enough, here we go.

02:05:12.000 Rubio says it's going to happen.

02:05:13.000 He says that they will aggressively revoke visas for Chinese students.

02:05:17.000 Good. 1.00

02:05:18.000 Crazy shit. 1.00

02:05:19.000 It's good. 1.00

02:05:20.000 I think that, I mean, in my opinion, it's good just because it kind of undoes a little bit of the argument that people were making about, oh, this is only about Israel, this is only about Israel.

02:05:32.000 And I think that, like, I endorsed or I supported the deportation of people that were, you know, anti-American, that were also being critical of Israel.

02:05:42.000 I supported the deporting those, or not deporting, but pulling the visas of those people because they're anti-American.

02:05:49.000 And if we can get rid of Chinese people that are likely engaged in espionage or whatever, that's right in the same ballpark. 0.75

02:05:58.000 I'm all for it. 0.85

02:05:59.000 Get him out.

02:06:02.000 Well then, all of our problems have been solved.

02:06:04.000 And politics is officially over.

02:06:06.000 It's done.

02:06:07.000 Rubio delivers like dominoes, man.

02:06:09.000 Rubio's awesome.

02:06:10.000 He's doing a phenomenal job.

02:06:13.000 Well, he's doing four phenomenal jobs or something like that, I think.

02:06:16.000 He also isn't menacing.

02:06:18.000 He leans forward and he kind of takes on a little bit more of that accent.

02:06:22.000 He's like, no, listen to me.

02:06:23.000 You're going to put them right here or else I'm going to deport them from the country?

02:06:26.000 All of the footage I've seen of him in front of Congress and in front of Senate committees and stuff, he's been...

02:06:39.000 He's been taking it to them.

02:06:41.000 He's probably been taking it for so long as a senator and just having to take it.

02:06:45.000 And now he's on the other end.

02:06:45.000 Great point.

02:06:46.000 I can't wait until you're no longer the colleague. 1.00

02:06:48.000 I don't have to call you Matt, Honorable Madam, whatever, and I can just call you the fool we all know you are. 0.99

02:06:54.000 Yeah, Rubio Unleashed is a nice sight. 0.98

02:06:56.000 And he speaks Spanish, so he's a great...

02:07:02.000 Where do we go from here?

02:07:03.000 From here?

02:07:04.000 Up.

02:07:05.000 I mean, like, Trump administration-wise.

02:07:07.000 Well, AI is coming, so things are going to change big.

02:07:10.000 We need to open or invest in electrical production.

02:07:16.000 Because without significant increases in our electrical production, we're going to lose the AI race with China. 0.95

02:07:16.000 Yeah, I agree. 0.95

02:07:24.000 All there is to it.

02:07:25.000 And the Russians, after World War I, they went full industry.

02:07:29.000 That's the only way they were able to defend against the Nazis.

02:07:31.000 And I keep thinking about an invasion.

02:07:33.000 Well, I keep thinking about a Chinese invasion and how... 1.00

02:07:38.000 They did it with gliders.

02:07:40.000 No one knew they were coming.

02:07:41.000 people were asleep and they might have been one of the beaches when the allies were No, it was Finland.

02:07:46.000 And the way that that drone just floated over the United States, that Chinese drone, and just ominously, silently floated over... 0.82

02:07:54.000 to get invaded and not know what's happening until they're already on top of you is like, I just don't want that, man.

02:08:00.000 I want a strong...

02:08:03.000 I sound like Joe Biden.

02:08:04.000 I mean, well, you know, the...

02:08:04.000 I digress.

02:08:07.000 I don't know, has anyone...

02:08:11.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:08:12.000 Pete Egg Seth is a national treasure.

02:08:14.000 That's a great, great recruiting video.

02:08:17.000 And the commercial.

02:08:18.000 Have you seen it, Ian?

02:08:19.000 Negative.

02:08:20.000 It's really, really, really good.

02:08:22.000 It's compelling.

02:08:24.000 And one of the things that Trump says in it is peace through strength, which he wants to see the United States military be so overpowered that no one on Earth would consider actually engaging in combat with us.

02:08:40.000 Gemini says I can't make videos until 1036.

02:08:44.000 You're in timeout.

02:08:45.000 I'm in timeout.

02:08:46.000 I'm going to have to get another account.

02:08:46.000 Gemini timeout.

02:08:48.000 Another Gemini account.

02:08:49.000 I agree with you, Phil.

02:08:51.000 Electricity generation.

02:08:52.000 I wonder how creative the Trump administration wants to get with, like, you're talking fusion we were talking about earlier, the advancements in solar tech, piezoelectricity.

02:09:03.000 Those are all experimental.

02:09:06.000 We don't have time for experimental because China is blowing our doors off when it comes to not just electricity generation now, but infrastructure for.

02:09:18.000 Electricity generation.

02:09:20.000 The Three Gorges Dam is massive, and it produces a boatload of power.

02:09:25.000 They're about to embark on building another dam that's going to produce enough energy that would sustain the country of Germany.

02:09:33.000 One dam.

02:09:34.000 It's that massive of a project.

02:09:37.000 They're also doing nuclear, and I believe they're using solar.

02:09:48.000 How much energy AI and computers are going to be using in the future? 0.72

02:09:53.000 I hear they're mining the dark side of the moon for heavy hydrogen, for heavy water, which used in tabletop fusion, deuterium.

02:10:00.000 Deuterium oxide, I think, is what you would call heavy water.

02:10:02.000 Might be tritium, which is like...

02:10:09.000 We don't have to do things that are exotic to produce the energy.

02:10:13.000 We just have to build nuclear reactors.

02:10:15.000 I understand that there's all kinds of people that are like, oh, there is new technology and we can blah, blah, blah.

02:10:21.000 That's all great and fine, but that's all going to take time to be refined to the point where it's really functional.

02:10:29.000 The modern nuclear reactors, not experimental, but modern nuclear reactors, we could build them and they would generate enough power and it's clean.

02:10:40.000 We could do that now.

02:10:42.000 Yeah, thorium.

02:10:42.000 I think thorium reactors are built for that.

02:10:44.000 I don't think thorium reactors are a proven technology yet.

02:10:47.000 I'm talking about old.

02:10:49.000 I'm talking about not old, but just what France does now.

02:10:53.000 Because France is all nuclear.

02:10:55.000 But the point is...

02:11:04.000 You hear Freeberg, you hear Chamath, and Sax is talking about it all the time as well.

02:11:09.000 The important thing that the administration really needs to do, like the top, one of the top most important things they need to do is they need to...

02:11:29.000 And the whole, like, if you lose the AI race, you lose everything?

02:11:33.000 That's not just, like, hyperbole.

02:11:38.000 That's real.

02:11:39.000 Like that's actually true.

02:11:40.000 If you, if your rivals or your international, uh, And if somebody gets to the sophisticated AI first and they do it wrong, the game's over for every human.

02:11:56.000 That's a big problem with AI, too, is if it takes over.

02:12:00.000 All right, well, how do we help the Trump administration do that?

02:12:03.000 I mean, I have no idea.

02:12:04.000 I know there are people that are working on it, people that talk, that are aware of it.

02:12:09.000 People, like I said, the guys in the All In podcast, they all have the ability to get messages to Trump because David Sachs is the AI guru for Trump, and he also does crypto stuff.

02:12:21.000 I'm confident that the administration is aware of this, but I don't know if the Department of Energy has been directed to begin to solve this.

02:12:32.000 I don't know what the...

02:12:36.000 Secretary Wright is the name.

02:12:38.000 I'm not too familiar with the Secretary of the Department of Energy at the moment.

02:12:41.000 Lee Zeldin.

02:12:41.000 Lee Zeldin?

02:12:42.000 No, Lee Zeldin's EPA.

02:12:43.000 Oh, the EPA.

02:12:44.000 Yeah, I was thinking of the EPA because they would probably need to clear any kind of new buildings.

02:12:51.000 have this right is the department of energy i wonder if he'd be a Lisa, if you're watching, we should get Chris Wright on the show because we could go deep on power.

02:13:00.000 You know, some of it you can't talk about publicly, but it would still be great.

02:13:03.000 Don't get me wrong.

02:13:03.000 I think energy expansion is important.

02:13:05.000 I don't think that's really the immediate next step for the Trump administration.

02:13:08.000 I think that it is essentially the political move.

02:13:11.000 It is a reality that Republicans have to take a 60-majority Senate in 2026.

02:13:18.000 Otherwise, none of this, all of the codifying stuff, all of the doge cuts that can't be passed through reconciliation, that is what matters.

02:13:24.000 Is it even possible?

02:13:25.000 Yeah, it's possible.

02:13:26.000 In this election, 100%.

02:13:28.000 I don't know what the map looks like.

02:13:30.000 It is possible for Republicans to achieve a 60-vote majority in this next election.

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