On today's show, we discuss the Epstein scandal, Trump's victory in the trade dispute with the International Court of Trade, and the latest on the Epstein case. We also talk about the new details about Epstein's trial, and whether or not they are real or not.
00:02:28.000This morning, Deputy Director of the FBI Dan Bongino announced Epstein prison surveillance videos exist and they will be released and he says, it shows, nobody was in that prison with Epstein, ergo, he must have unalived himself.
00:02:45.000The words we have to use on these ridiculous platforms, everybody knows what he meant, right?
00:03:05.000Yeah, everybody the other day, all these liberals are gloating, saying Trump's tariffs got shut down by the International Court of Trade or whatever.
00:03:11.000And sure enough, like clockwork, Donald Trump gets an appeal.
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00:08:24.000Here's the news, whether you like it or not, from the New York Post.
00:08:27.000FBI will soon release video that proves Jeffrey Epstein was not murdered, quote, clear as day.
00:08:33.000Yeah, sorry, no, I don't buy that, but thanks for the headline, New York Post.
00:08:36.000They say, FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino promised Thursday to release new video that finally debunks conspiracy theories that Jeffrey Epstein could have been murdered, insisting no one was there but him at the time of his jail cell suicide.
00:08:48.000There's video clear as day, Bongino told Fox and Friends.
00:08:51.000He's the only person in there, and the only person coming out, you can see it.
00:11:29.000Just like in 9-11, they found a passport that survived being incinerated from an airplane.
00:11:35.000And then also another hijacker lost his luggage and found another passport.
00:11:39.000Proving that we needed to therefore be in the Middle East for the next 20 years.
00:11:43.000I know if they had video and it clearly showed that he committed suicide, I don't know if we can say that word on the show, but that he unalived himself, whatever the word is, I can say that would have been released and we would have had it.
00:12:25.000Because the only people that, either A, there was a criminal, or B, maybe the FBI and CIA were the best cover-ups of all crimes, including international crimes like 9-11.
00:12:35.000Could have probably covered this crime up, too.
00:12:45.000But I feel like because he has videos that exist on his podcast where he does air quotes for Epstein's suicide, for him to just turn around and be like, nope, never happened, he needs to address what he's said about this.
00:12:58.000And I think he's—this on Fox& Friends was an attempt at— He's cleaning up his Maria Bartiromo interview where he was like, he killed himself.
00:16:18.000This is making it less believable that anything else happened than him killing – or that he got killed because it's like – Trump can either do two things.
00:16:37.000You can dissolve the agency or reform the agency.
00:16:41.000So part of reforming it would be fixing its reputation.
00:16:43.000The first thing you'd want to do to fix someone's reputation is release all of the evidence that could exonerate the areas in which people doubt you.
00:16:52.000So what does Trump's administration do?
00:16:54.000They, and I know some information that I don't want to say here, but, you know, they have a very interesting selection process for how they choose influencers to come to the White House to then hold up notebooks.
00:17:30.000America deserves to know if there was a blackmail operation on the elite government officials and celebrities in our nation that are controlling narratives and keeping people subjugated either under our rule, under Israel's rule.
00:17:54.000You know what I love is how you get all these people, they're coming out and they're like, you know, rumors in the Beltway that Epstein was working with some Middle Eastern intelligence agency.
00:18:10.000They're always into that blackmail business.
00:18:17.000I was laughing because during all this going on, did you see that weird 60 Minutes interview with Mossad where they have the guy with his voice changed and he's got the mask on?
00:18:24.000And while people are contemplating this Epstein stuff and we're getting bad PR, Israel decides it's a good idea to put a Mossad agent on American television and goes, this is our entire, the world is our orchestra.
00:18:41.000Especially with everybody saying that you guys control everything and that maybe the Epstein files, maybe this is related to Israel, to come out and say, we're literally behind everything.
00:18:49.000I feel like something's really off here.
00:19:02.000I think most—well, I mean, actually, I'm not sure I can say that.
00:19:06.000No, I think the way to break it down is it's not that powerful interests, powerful individuals are stupid.
00:19:11.000It's that it's really difficult to manage a large system.
00:19:14.000So you can have 10 ultra-genius multi-billionaires conspiring to do something, but the job has to be handled by regular people.
00:19:24.000So if they want a cargo move from one country to the other, you can get the best of the best special contractors or whatever to do it.
00:19:31.000But down the line, those contractors have got accountants.
00:19:33.000Those kind of like – so you can have the cream of the crop flying the plane and then the dude who worked at the airport failed to fuel it properly or something bad happens maintaining – Why did you do it?
00:19:49.000I thought that's what you wanted me to do.
00:19:51.000Yeah, I thought you wanted me to go on American broadcast television with a scary voice changer and a mask and tell everyone that Israel controls the global narrative.
00:20:01.000To me, when something like that happens, I'm like...
00:20:12.000To put something like that out, while botching the Epstein files, like, can I ask you, Phil, this is a genuine question.
00:20:20.000Why would Pam Bondi, why would Cash, why would Bongino, who are very intelligent individuals, Do something like this unless there was some ulterior motive.
00:20:31.000Because, like, I don't think there's any way I could have even, according to a playbook, botched something like Epstein, which already was doubted.
00:20:37.000We already sat around and thought there was something hidden.
00:20:39.000And then the Trump administration's like, we're going to blow the lid off.
00:20:42.000and then they do this, you're going, We do have breaking news.
00:20:50.000Literally, this is breaking just in the past hour or so.
00:20:53.000There's a press release from Justice.gov.
00:20:55.000U.S. government employee arrested for attempting to provide classified information to foreign government.
00:21:01.000An IT specialist employed by the Defense Intelligence Agency was arrested for attempting to transmit national defense information to an officer or agent of a foreign government.
00:21:10.000Nathan Villas Lash, 28, of Alexandria, Virginia, was arrested today in Northern Virginia and will make his initial court appearance in the Eastern District of Virginia tomorrow.
00:21:19.000According to court documents, Lash became a civilian employee of the DIA in 2019, where he works with the Insider Threat Division and holds top security clearance.
00:21:27.000In March of 25, the FBI commenced an operation after receiving a tip that an individual now known to be Lash offered to provide classified information to a friendly foreign government.
00:21:36.000In that email, the senator wrote that he did not agree or align with the values of this administration and was therefore willing to share classified information that he had access to, including completed intelligence products, some unprocessed intelligence, and other assorted classified documentation.
00:21:53.000They're going to mention that they implemented an operation at a public park in Northern Virginia where Lash believed he would deposit the classified information for the foreign government to retrieve.
00:22:02.000On or about May 1st, FBI surveillance observed Lash proceed to the specified location and deposit an item.
00:22:07.000Following his departure, the FBI retrieved the item, which was a thumb drive later found to contain messages from Lash and multiple typed documents, each containing information that was portion marked up to the secret or top secret levels.
00:22:19.000The message from Lash indicated that he had chosen to include a decent sample size of classified information to decently demonstrate the range of types of products to which he had access.
00:22:54.000What is this when you have hyperpolarization to the degree where holdover intelligence, Employees are intentionally giving away American secrets to hurt the Trump administration.
00:23:08.000Is this just standard old sedition that happens?
00:23:13.000So I think that there's, if I understand correctly, there are attempts.
00:23:19.000To spy on friendly countries from friendly countries all the time, it's very normal.
00:23:24.000This kind of stuff, though, someone, you know, an actual asset leaking top secret and secret information to a foreign government, even if it is a friendly government, that's exceedingly rare, if I understand correctly.
00:23:38.000Not like I'm some kind of insider that has, you know, inside knowledge, but all the stuff that I've heard, this is...
00:24:24.000Remember J6, they were trying to try people for sedition.
00:24:26.000But actually doing something that undermines...
00:24:35.000Because when people make decisions to either withhold, give information, manipulate information that itself leads to the suffering or death of Americans or violates our rights or undermines the core tenets of our society.
00:24:47.000The punishments need to be stricter because right now, Trump said he was going to come in with Patel.
00:25:44.000The issue I'm seeing with all of it is you have Democrats that have broken the law and we don't even arrest them.
00:25:50.000Case in point, when Kash Patel, he releases these documents to the GOP and then just the other day Grassley releases them declassified and it turns out that Nellie Orr, wife of Bruce Orr, heavily involved in the Russiagate hoax, was found by the FBI to have lied to Congress and appears to have committed multiple felonies.
00:26:37.000They're releasing these documents on Nellie Orr, hopefully just the beginning, and we begin to see arrests.
00:26:41.000and legitimate criminal indictments and prison time.
00:26:44.000But do you legitimately think that's going to happen?
00:26:47.000Well, I would say there's a decent probability right now based on the fact that they literally announced they arrested an intelligence officer who was leaking information or trying to, and they published documents implicating Nellie Orr.
00:28:14.000I don't believe you're correct in the literal codified – I'm pretty sure this is going to require adherence to an enemy in a time of war.
00:28:43.000Chapter 37, anyone who communicates, delivers, or transmits information related to the national defense to a foreign entity can be punished by death or imprisonment for any term of years or for life.
00:28:56.000So, I'm not exactly sure the products that he was...
00:29:39.000Whoever with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation communicates, delivers, or transmits or attempts to communicate, deliver, or transmit to any foreign government or to any faction or party or military or naval force of a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the U.S., or to any representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or citizen thereof, either directly or indirectly, any document, writing, code, book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic native, blueprint, plan, map, model, note, instrument, appliance, or information related to the national defense.
00:30:08.000shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term or of years or for life, except that the sentence of death shall not be imposed unless the jury, or if there is no jury, the court, further finds that the offense resulted in the identification by a foreign power of, Let's see.
00:30:28.000Okay, as defined in Section 010A of the Foreign Intelligence Act, it says...
00:30:33.000Further finds the offense resulted in identification by a foreign power of an individual acting as an agent of the United States and consequently in the death of that individual or directly concerned nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning system or other means of defense or retaliation against large scale attacks, war plans, communications, intelligence or cryptographic information or any other major weapon system or major element of defense strategy.
00:30:58.000So the reason why I said – so I'm going to split the baby on this one.
00:31:01.000You were correct largely in the general – this is espionage.
00:31:04.000But the reason why I thought that was not correct is because the death penalty is almost exclusive – like entirely in law when you aid and abet a foreign adversary.
00:31:13.000So the fact that it says whether you're giving away nuclear war plans, means of early warning systems or – Giving information related to an agent of America who dies.
00:31:25.000These are very extreme and specific cases where someone will get the death penalty.
00:32:27.000You're seeing there's the deep state undermining in the FBI.
00:32:30.000When, and I say this to Trump, to Bongino, when are people going to realize playing nice with these guys, trying to do the bare minimum is going to impact this country?
00:32:39.000If you don't make an example of some of these people, they raided your house, Trump.
00:32:43.000They went and raided your home over papers.
00:32:47.000You've got to go extreme mode on these guys.
00:33:52.000You've told them there's not a lot of penalties.
00:33:54.000It's the same thing that happens with these cashless bail laws or whatever that happens in New York or whatever.
00:33:59.000If you start letting criminals go, or in California, if you stop penalizing people for shoplifting, shoplifting increases.
00:34:05.000Unfortunately, criminals are going to be criminals.
00:34:07.000So when you tell real criminals in our government, you know...
00:34:13.000It not only tells people that it's not a very serious crime, but why even spend time going after these people if you're in the government or trying to clean it up?
00:34:21.000I don't think the death penalty is a deterrent for these people.
00:34:24.000Let's see them executed on live TV by the state and see if people start.
00:34:28.000This is, look, with all due respect, I think that's an emotional request that doesn't actually strike at the core of what's wrong with this country.
00:36:46.000Like, I would say young men are feeling boldened to fight the gynocracy because of Andrew Tate clips on TikTok and on Snapchat and Instagram.
00:36:54.000And I think that you see the UK creating entire curriculum in their schools to try to fight the taterization, they call it, of their youth.
00:37:02.000Young men who are becoming misogynistic, they want to keep men docile, right?
00:37:05.000They fight against their testosterone levels.
00:37:06.000They don't want you realizing that the world wasn't always run by the vagina, right?
00:37:11.000So with Tate, again, I do think this lawfare, and I don't want to talk about him too much, Maybe there's even some gray areas where it's like, hey, maybe that was something non-consensual.
00:37:26.000But they don't come after you or they don't put the law down on you until they see you as a threat.
00:37:30.000So they all have skeletons in their closet.
00:37:33.000They only enforce the law when you come against their system.
00:38:33.000But Dan Bongino saying there's no there there, I don't find credible at all.
00:38:37.000But just to wrap it up, because we do have to jump to the next story.
00:38:40.000My point is largely, character assassination is the main play they take now, because death is not a deterrent for people seeking immortality.
00:38:47.000But isn't that what they do with anyone?
00:38:49.000Even Nick Fuentes, I feel like I see a lot of people making a lot of really ludicrous claims about his character, or he's gay, or that whole Destiny, he sucked Destiny's dick thing, or whatever.
00:39:15.000Well, yeah, but I was like, I mean, he's a good example.
00:39:17.000a lot of these people, whether you agree with them or not, I know you guys don't necessarily get along where you guys are neutral, but it's like, I do start to wonder, I don't have any ties to Russell.
00:39:25.000Even with Tate, I kind of think a lot of what he did Like, you know, just because I disagree with you or I think you've made some immoral choices or maybe, you know, you might be more extreme than me.
00:39:42.000I feel like we've got to start defending more people, and what we're seeing is that these character assassinations don't work.
00:39:47.000Tate still has his following and is still popular.
00:39:49.000Fuentes isn't going anywhere, despite what they say about him.
00:39:52.000I don't know if that whole plan that they had works anymore, because everyone's just like, look, we've heard it all before.
00:39:57.000If you fight the system, they're going to make accusations.
00:40:25.000Yeah, so, you know, my point is, the first thing that needs to happen before anybody jumps to change the law, Congress needs to take action, because that's never going to happen, is, hey, it's already illegal.
00:40:37.000Let's just enforce the law that we have on the books right now that's been neglected by Republicans for a decade.
00:40:44.000And then I think we're starting to see that door open.
00:40:47.000I understand the frustration that you're articulating, Elijah.
00:40:52.000There is a lot of people that are like, look, we want to see these things to happen.
00:40:56.000But we talked about this or have spoken about this multiple times on the show.
00:41:00.000They have to have all of their ducks in a row if they're going to arrest people, because any kind of inconsistency, any way that anybody that gets arrested can possibly produce So they have to have the best case imaginable.
00:41:19.000So if it takes a little extra time for them to produce the most solid case possible, I'm okay with it.
00:41:26.000Do you actually think it will happen, though?
00:41:28.000Do I think that people will get arrested?
00:42:30.000When the appeals court says, nah, they write, for now.
00:42:34.000because you can see the direction of their bias.
00:42:37.000They say the federal appeals court on Thursday granted The Trump admin had earlier told the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit that it would seek emergency relief from the Supreme Court as soon as Friday if the tariff ruling was not quickly put on pause.
00:42:53.000The judgment issued Wednesday night by the U.S. Court of International Trade is temporarily stayed until further notice while this court considers the motions papers.
00:43:02.000The pause gives the Trump administration some breathing room as it prepares to argue that the trade court's ruling should be halted for the duration of the appeals process.
00:43:10.000Trump officials maintain that they have other options for imposing tariffs, even if they do not prevail in the case.
00:43:16.000Quote, even if we lose, we will do it another way, Trump trade advisor Peter Navarro told reporters at the White House on Thursday afternoon.
00:43:22.000So these have already been taking effect.
00:43:24.000There was one big story I can speak to in the skate industry where professional athletes were losing their sponsorships because shoe companies are going out of business.
00:43:33.000We don't make shoes here in the United States anymore.
00:43:35.000So I don't know how you guys feel about this.
00:43:39.000Well, I think the tariffs are necessary.
00:43:41.000Like, I don't know if there was any way that we could put pressure on foreign governments, especially like you look at Australia or a lot of these small countries.
00:43:47.000They're absolutely taking advantage of the United States.
00:43:50.000And I don't want to make Canada a 51st state because, well, we have enough Indians in our country, so we don't need an Indian state.
00:44:01.000But at the same time, it's like the tariffs themselves are a temporary pain.
00:44:06.000That we must endure in order to recover a lot of our discrepancies in the trade war.
00:44:12.000So I don't know anyone with a mind, either left or the right, that are against these that actually understand economics.
00:44:16.000I never met someone that was like, even lefties that I know, unless they're like deranged lefties, but they're like, Well, like, yeah, lefties I know, well, yeah, but the ones that are well-educated, that actually are actual engineers, not the engineers that we're importing, but the actual engineers, thought leaders in their fields are like, you know, this is pretty unbalanced, what's been happening, especially with some of these smaller Western countries.
00:44:42.000We're providing their military aid, their support.
00:44:43.000We're spending so much of our own money, unrealized payments that's not even included in just the money we're losing in the trade deficit.
00:44:50.000But maybe Americans should wake up too.
00:44:52.000Maybe we shouldn't have shipped all of our production, our processing, and our development to every other country.
00:44:57.000Like maybe it wasn't a good idea that everything's made outside of our country.
00:45:01.000Like maybe people need to realize that.
00:45:02.000Yeah, I mean that's true, but I don't – I'm not sure that there's going to be a great onshoring, right?
00:45:12.000Like the cost of doing, you know, making, you know, Here in the United States, the cost of living, you have to pay people significantly more to make whatever it is that you're making.
00:45:32.000Whereas in India, you have so many, you know, there's one point whatever billion people in India, so they'll work for significantly less.
00:45:40.000They have a way lower standard of living.
00:45:42.000The cost of living over there is significantly less, so you can get away with it.
00:45:46.000So I don't imagine that the tariffs are going to incentivize a massive onshore.
00:45:52.000There will be some companies that open new production facilities, but I don't think that it's going to be some kind of big getting all the jobs back the way that some people seem to have hopes for.
00:46:06.000I'm certainly not against the idea of trying to.
00:46:08.000I mean, I would like to see more effort put into deregulation and more effort into controlling unions, because I think those two things would be better to incentivize production of products here in the U.S. I think that getting rid of EPA laws, getting rid of, you know...
00:46:34.000So yeah, I'm totally on board with your point.
00:46:36.000I just don't think that the tariffs are going to do what Yep.
00:46:43.000Like we're not able to think We only think in terms of an election cycle.
00:46:48.000So that's why we never really progress in any meaningful way.
00:46:51.000That's the exact reason why we have the national debt that we do.
00:46:54.000You know, the 36 or whatever now trillion dollar debt that we have and that's looming.
00:46:59.000And you see the results in the bond market last week.
00:47:02.000The bond sales was really, really soft.
00:47:04.000These things are coming, and they're not getting fixed by any...
00:47:11.000If it doesn't happen during my administration, then it's fine.
00:47:14.000When in reality, it's all of the administrations that have done nothing in the past 40 or whatever years.
00:47:24.000Like genuinely, we will not see a full economic recovery unless we do three things.
00:47:28.000I believe we have to punish companies who are Like, hey, you want to do this, we're going to make it cost the same as doing it here, or cost more.
00:47:39.000Basically, there has to be a punishment for companies, because this is this whole crony capitalism thing.
00:47:43.000When capitalism doesn't benefit the country, then I'm going to sound like a far lefty here, but when you start just benefiting a few billionaires, a few families, like when you see the, we talked about it last time I was here, like the Walton family, or when you see people offering you the cheapest products, everything's foreign, you pay your employees nothing, and you're ranking in $40, $50 billion each a year.
00:48:01.000You've got to ask yourself the question, do we want a country where the economy helps a select few?
00:48:06.000Not only is that bad for us in general, that also leads to the rise in far-left communist ideas.
00:48:10.000It actually starts leading into a far-left push in young people who realize, what's the solution to this?
00:48:37.000I literally had like a mini heart attack from medication they gave me and I went to the hospital and they told me it was a lethal amount of opiates when I broke my foot and I wasn't supposed to be on opiates and it was a lethal amount and they were surprised I didn't die.
00:48:49.000and it was an Indian who Australia led into Australia, and then I looked up and I found out they weren't holding Australian doctors to have the same credentialing and the bar licensing as the Australian doctors.
00:49:29.000And there are people that, there was someone that I was talking to on the internet the other day, and they were saying, oh, you know, what we should do is we should make sure that people can afford medical school and blah, blah, blah.
00:49:37.000I'm like, no, I don't want more people going to medical school.
00:49:40.000Right now, it's the third leading cause of death.
00:49:42.000I want the best people going to medical school.
00:49:44.000I don't want it to be easier to get into medical school.
00:49:46.000I want it to be harder to get into medical school, so that way the people that are graduating medical school are actually qualified.
00:50:13.000Yeah, you know, I think this comes up quite a bit in all of these stories, but a lot of this news feels like stamp collecting in that it's immaterial to the bigger problem we're facing, infertility.
00:50:26.000And so I'm just bringing this up in terms of talking about the immigration, why they're bringing all these people in is because they know that our labor force is going to collapse.
00:50:33.000And it's because people don't have kids.
00:50:35.000And without human beings to maintain the labor force, you're going to have 0% unemployment.
00:52:48.000I think the reason why Trump is doing – the reason Trump is doing all this stuff now, obviously, when this collapse starts happening, if we do not have a basic manufacturing base for our core essentials, we are fucked.
00:53:15.000I think they said during the 2007-2008 crash, one of the experts came out and said, 20 years from now, there is going to be, or 18 years from now, there will be a deficit.
00:53:26.000in 18-year-olds entering the job force and entering universities, which is going to cause a financial crisis because this wave is going to hit the universities who will face a budget shortfall.
00:53:36.000Companies won't have talent to onboard, so there's going to be no entry-level jobs.
00:53:51.000You can't flood the country with low-skill labor because you're not training high-skill labor.
00:53:55.000And so these Democrat blank slaters literally thought if you give a degree to an immigrant, they're now an expert.
00:54:01.000I was like, yeah, that was never the case.
00:54:03.000So what happens is, let's say you have this labor tree of very few high-skill labor, and at the bottom you have 60% low-skill labor, 30% medium-skill labor, and 10% high-skill labor.
00:54:15.000They said, OK, we're facing a massive deficit in the younger generation.
00:54:19.000Flood the country with low skill labor.
00:54:20.000Now it's impossible for American young people to get the jobs they need to start their careers, build their wealth and become high level experts.
00:54:27.000So the country will eventually just be a slum if that's the path we go down.
00:54:31.000The inverse is we don't have the labor force and our manufacturing is in China.
00:54:36.000I think Trump's plan is basically, this is going to happen no matter what.
00:54:44.000You can tell everybody in the world to have babies right now.
00:54:46.000And it'll take 20 years for that impact.
00:54:49.000So as of right now, what do we do for the next five years?
00:54:52.000Get our manufacturing back ASAP through emergency tariffs.
00:54:55.000That's not what they're doing, though.
00:54:56.000They're just importing the third world.
00:56:53.000No, you go to physical therapy and start struggling to walk and you get a cane and you get a cast or you get a wheelchair and then you start to rebuild your strength so you can walk again.
00:57:06.000But if we don't force them and start doing that physical therapy, that labor therapy to get them back into the mentality of meritocracy, we just collapse.
00:57:15.000No, but it's just based on this lie, though.
00:57:17.000Corporations aren't not hiring Gen Z men because they're lazy.
00:57:21.000They're not hiring them because they can pay Indians less and treat them worse.
00:58:21.000Because you have to work to make money and you don't get things for free.
00:58:24.000Well, what is the solution to maintain a standard of living then?
00:58:31.000The problem with housing and all of the system is not just one thing.
00:58:35.000So first, obviously, if we get rid of the flood of immigration, wages go up because the corporations are forced to compete with each other.
00:59:10.000I'm saying if we are intentionally going to insert any country and taking literally their high-skill labor, you saying, but we're not doing that, we're in agreement on that.
00:59:26.000Number one, if you claim that you're trying to make the world a better place for that Gen Z is illegal, I mean, sorry, lazy, and that we should bring in or ship out these illegals, bring in legal immigrants because that's the solution.
01:00:05.000When you have the Trump administration, it is multifaceted like you said.
01:00:08.000So if we actually wanted to fix the problems in our country, one of the things we could do is limit corporate buyout of single-family dwellings and homes, which then could maybe fix a little bit of the housing crisis.
01:00:19.000When you look at the fact that right now the cost of living has gone up exponentially, it is no longer even in the dream.
01:00:26.000There's no American dream to own a home.
01:00:28.000People have given up on that entirely.
01:00:29.000And then you say, "Hey, look." I know you can't buy a home.
01:00:32.000I know that there's a, you know, you can't afford a family because it's so expensive to live now.
01:00:37.000And so the reason why you don't have any drive and desire to add to the American system is because you're lazy or you're entitled to Gen Z and millennials.
01:00:45.000It's like, well, you said they're lazy and entitled.
01:00:48.000I'm saying they're not lazy and entitled.
01:00:49.000And then you added a whole bunch of things I never said.
01:00:50.000No, I'm saying they're disillusioned because you're stripping away the American gnosis, the way of living what our parents knew was an opportunity and an ability to acquire.
01:01:00.000So you have every generation being able to have a family, to have purpose, to have kids, to own a home, to have a stake in the country becomes it's a diminishing return and it's less and less likely.
01:01:29.000Let me tell you about the American founding fathers who got on a boat, and then 20% of them died on the boat, and they landed on a barren shore with no food or water, and then starved to death.
01:01:50.000The people who came before us worked so that we would all have better lives, but there's no guarantee that's ever the case.
01:01:55.000So I implore each and every person who thinks they're not lazy to strip off all your clothes and go stand in the middle of the woods and talk about starting from nothing.
01:02:01.000We live in a country of extreme wealth and opportunity.
01:02:04.000And the idea that I can't figure it out is is.
01:02:07.000Sure, you can call it disillusionment.
01:03:04.000And it's happening more to men because women have the ability to go to older men and get these things.
01:03:09.000My point is, we have a generation of people, even as you're describing it, this idea that I'm owed a house.
01:03:15.000Well, to be fair, our ancestors did build a nation so that we would be able to have these houses.
01:03:20.000But I also think sometimes empires crumble, and there were bad stewards of this nation, particularly in the Democrats, but largely with the Uniparty and the Republicans, that have created a circumstance where everything is trashed right now.
01:03:43.000I don't think I'm advocating for them to stay home and be a femcel or incel or whatever, but the point is that they shouldn't have to compete with Indians for jobs.
01:04:04.000Did you not say that you're in support of it to some extent and you're just saying the system is broken but it shouldn't even exist at all?
01:04:09.000I don't think you understand what H-1B is.
01:04:11.000I think you're talking about the modern colloquial broken immigration system and interpreting any kind of brain-drained immigration as our broken immigration system.
01:04:20.000I'm arguing for a policy function and you're angry about a current state of affairs.
01:04:39.000H-1B is supposed to be mid to high end.
01:04:41.000And my point is, we want to take away the economic capabilities of any other nation that we can.
01:04:48.000The problem is, in this country, they— Why would we want to import people who are not like us, who don't share our culture, because they can pass a math test?
01:05:28.000My point is, there are people from other countries who like America, who believe in the American dream and the American culture, and the point is, we don't want to import 20 million people.
01:05:51.000Well, I'm saying that's a post-1965 mentality.
01:05:54.000That's what's kind of stripping away our culture, our identity.
01:05:57.000These people don't even come here with the American dream in mind per se.
01:05:59.000What's stripping away our culture is importing 20 million people in four years.
01:06:03.000Well that too, but also what I'm trying to say is I think where we're disagreeing is that I'm saying we need to be attacking the system, not the generation.
01:06:15.000But I'm saying it's a different level of fault.
01:06:18.000I'm saying we, you know, you have like Congresswoman, I'm sure you disagree with this, you know, bringing their babies, like Anna Paulina Luna, these people saying, the key thing to helping the fertility crisis is being allowed to bring our babies on the congressional floor.
01:06:31.000And you're going, okay, stop for a second.
01:06:34.000The real reason why people are not having children is because of two main reasons.
01:06:40.000Cost of living and loss of values, mainly due to feminism.
01:06:44.000Like, women are not of the value today that men want to fight for them or to settle down.
01:07:17.000Because healthcare is expensive and you're going to limit the amount of side effects, comorbidities that you're going to develop if you're in better shape.
01:07:51.000The fact that natural means, no, the fact that right now you're saying that the most natural means for the majority of people to earn a decent living, most people are not trying to get wealth, they're just trying to survive.
01:08:00.000So the cost of living is going up, wages are going up, You have no solution.
01:08:15.000Because a 20-year-old Gen Zer is not going to go to D.C. and bang a gavel and make that happen.
01:08:19.000So what does an entire generation right now, when you are looking in the eyes of a 35-year-old millennial who's like, I can't afford a house, what do you tell him to do right now?
01:08:30.000Go to Congress, bang the gavel, and ban immigration.
01:09:07.000It's going to be work harder than you've ever had to work, work harder than your parents, work harder than your grandparents, and that's the answer.
01:09:40.000I went out and so I had a job at an airline making $10 an hour and when I couldn't afford to pay my rent and I couldn't afford to buy shoes and my car got repossessed, the little money I had, I bought a $200 guitar and I went and I busked in the subway of Chicago and I made $7 an hour doing that.
01:09:55.000Every day I'd put the money in my bank account and save it up.
01:09:57.000Eventually I started making $30 an hour.
01:09:59.000Then I figured out I could play in front of Wrigley Field.
01:10:05.000And I get to hear every day from people who are like, you're so lucky.
01:10:08.000It's because you're lucky that you have, if only I had the money, I can do it too.
01:10:12.000When every story, not every story, but most stories is someone saying, let me put it this way.
01:10:17.000I choose to work 16 hours a day with hours on the weekend, and I got to pay taxes because I choose to work more than most people.
01:10:23.000Meanwhile, there are people who are like, I should only have to work four days a week.
01:10:26.000And that's largely the younger generation advocating for the four-day workweek, and largely it is the younger generation that is socialist, not the boomers, not Gen X. It is millennials, and to a certain degree slightly less than half of Gen Z. So you broke free from the system.
01:10:57.000It hasn't been throughout all of history, but we built up this country with a middle class where we have an availability of a large swath of a job market in different industries where people could make money Nobody disagrees.
01:11:10.000I am telling you it's radical change, two things, literally preventing corporate buyout of single family homes and putting a halt on immigration until we can figure out what's going on, which also means deporting the illegals.
01:12:10.000You might be smarter than most people.
01:12:11.000And in a country, I'm saying the rich aren't doing poor in this country.
01:12:14.000people who are smart, there's no one's argument that there's a lack of entrepreneurship availability, that there aren't grants and investors to be able to be an extremely intelligent person and build something great.
01:12:25.000The reality is a lot of Most people aren't built that way.
01:12:29.000And they shouldn't have to live in their parents' basement forever because they can't afford a home.
01:12:35.000So how do they get out of their parents' basement?
01:12:37.000Okay, but the point is, if every single Gen Z Zoomer decided to pull themselves up by their bootstraps tomorrow and grind super hard, it wouldn't matter.
01:13:15.000Now, I was doing some math and looking at the minimum wage at the time that he was working.
01:13:26.000When you're saying, like, what do we do?
01:13:28.000I'm saying, yeah, that is a tough question, Tim.
01:13:30.000It is a tough question when I tell someone, no matter how hard you work in the system, if you're an average intelligence guy with a normal IQ, not only are there not a lot of jobs available in manufacturing and fields to actually pay you what you want, but these fields are going down.
01:13:41.000Either their wages are actually, they're offering less to begin with, or they're not giving raises because the cost of doing business is going up and you can get less.
01:14:56.000I don't think there's a lot of hope for them.
01:14:57.000I don't think there's a lot of opportunity.
01:14:59.000So we're in agreement that people who are living with their parents, not being trained, not being educated, not working, and also not even trying to access the system, do you think it's fair to call them lazy?
01:15:39.000And yeah, and I understand that that's possible in my field of work.
01:15:42.000Most people cannot find $20,000 when you're in a linear system of top-down, maybe get a 1% raise per year, maybe a 3% raise.
01:15:50.000I am saying, yes, I am looking for the Trump administration to stop bringing women on saying, hey, the idea that we're going to fix things is to allow more How about we do things in
01:16:20.000our government, like I said, where we limit corporations from bringing in these foreign workers that drive down wages?
01:16:37.000For the time being, my point is, there is a reality as to why I think people like Andrew Tate and for a while, but not anymore, Jordan Peterson, was...
01:16:48.000What was Jordan Peterson telling young men to do?
01:16:51.000Find the heaviest thing you can and carry it.
01:16:53.000Literally saying just work hard for no reason was one of the tenets of his 12 steps for life or whatever.
01:16:58.000And my point is, much like why Andrew Tate has built a large following is because he's literally telling men to stop being lazy.
01:17:06.000He literally puts out videos all the time where he's like, if you are sitting down and if you are sitting down waiting for something to happen, you're a loser.
01:17:17.000We don't have anything to do with you.
01:17:18.000But if you're a guy who wants to succeed, make a difference, and be somebody, and be the king, and be on the top, get off your ass right now.
01:17:29.000I said there needs to be more content, positive content, especially telling young white men or just straight men or young men in general that, like, you can thrive.
01:17:36.000Even if things are anti-white, I put out a tweet that went really viral where I said there is a portion of particularly young white guys who are rightfully angry.
01:18:55.000I am saying that, yeah, that is really tough, and it sucks to tell men the really only way to be a king and to get out is to do something grandiose, which is kind of sad about Tate.
01:19:04.000It's like, well, how did Tate make his money?
01:19:11.000Same with Portnoy or any of these guys.
01:19:13.000I think he was actually talking dirty to men as well.
01:20:10.000I want to jump to this next story that I'm really excited for, but my point is, Democrats have gutted this country's—Gen Z has been screwed over completely.
01:20:23.000They're giving away properties to illegal immigrants.
01:20:25.000They're giving homes to fake asylum seekers.
01:20:28.000They're giving government benefits to non-citizens and telling Gen Z good luck, goodbye.
01:20:32.000While all of that is true, there is no short-term solution to the fertility crisis and to the mass migration crisis created by the Democrats that will alleviate the tension on millennials and Gen Z. Millennials are, I believe, leaning slightly towards socialist.
01:21:17.000And then Gen Z men are 55 right, 45 left.
01:21:20.000So that polarization is there, but it's kind of skewing more towards the right nowadays.
01:21:25.000The principal point I'm making is not that every single Gen Z is lazy or that every single millennial is lazy, because obviously there are smart, wealthy millionaire millennials and also millennials working construction who do 80 hours a week and are working a modest living.
01:21:37.000I'm saying that there is a large, large portion.
01:21:40.000Of lazy younger people who think the government should be paying their bills.
01:21:45.000And they're called Democrats and they're called Democratic Socialists and they're called Socialists.
01:21:51.000And they are at like the younger block of the Democratic Party.
01:21:55.000These are not people who believe in merit and closed borders.
01:21:58.000These are people who are saying open the borders, bring all these people in and then make them do work so we can get paid from their taxes.
01:22:04.000But let's jump to this next story because it's fun.
01:22:51.000This land acknowledgement is a recognition of shared history as a nation.
01:22:58.000While continuing to deepen my own understanding, it is my great hope that in each of your communities and collectively as a country, a path is found toward truth and reconciliation in both word and deed.
01:23:15.000King Charles, who is the King of Canada, just said that they were on unceded territory of the Algonquin people.
01:24:18.000It's funny when, like, a celebrity comes on, you know, I think it was the Academy Awards, the last one, and they started out with, like, this is the Mwunga Boonga Ooga Booga tribe, and we acknowledge them, and you're like, ah, you know, you stupid celebrity.
01:24:32.000But the king, I think a lot of the conspiracies about him are probably true.
01:24:55.000He's not helping his case from the conspirators because when you do stuff like this and you're not senile like Joe Biden, it makes me wonder if this is genuinely like an intentional undermining of British sovereignty and Western imperialism.
01:25:09.000I don't think it could be anything else.
01:25:15.000Especially, it's not like, you know, he's a teenager.
01:25:17.000His mother was the queen for 70 years or something like that.
01:25:22.000He is very familiar with all of the protocol that a king, you know, has to go through.
01:25:29.000So this seems like, it seems ridiculous that he would do this because he should have known.
01:25:35.000I think Trump needs to publicly—not that I think Trump would actually try and claim Canada, but I think Trump should post a truth right now saying that the king has acknowledged his illegitimate claims over Canada, and we no longer recognize the Canadian government as legitimate by the king's own words.
01:25:53.000It would be funny— I'd do it if I was president.
01:25:55.000And I wouldn't put it past Trump, but like— Can we talk about the seriousness of this, though?
01:26:09.000This is fantastic because it creates one of two scenarios.
01:26:12.000One is that Canada's government is illegitimate, for which we need only negotiate with the Algonquin and Anishibag people, or the left must now recognize that conquerors have the claim to a land.
01:26:27.000Yeah, well, when do you get to own the land?
01:27:23.000Not this NATO bullshit like, oh, we got to stand with Ukraine, FAFO stuff.
01:27:27.000Like a genuine like – these are our – Like white people are only 7% approximately of the global population.
01:27:39.000We exported our culture to the entire world.
01:27:42.000I mean, you go to China and Western technology, the skyscraper, is at the precipice of even what they're building today to become strong themselves.
01:27:51.000Even the way they've opened up to our capitalist ideas and free trade to become a stronger nation.
01:27:55.000And then they're using our ideas to become stronger.
01:27:57.000And then we're apologizing to people that sound like...
01:28:21.000Donald Trump right now is talking about Canada becoming the 51st state.
01:28:25.000And if the end result of their land acknowledgement, weird, woke, we recognize the sins of our ways, if that resulted in Trump saying, okay, your country's ours now, good luck, I'm like, all right.
01:28:37.000Or for us, these people who don't believe in conquest and think it never existed, it's a silly notion that we have to give the land to whoever was there a long time ago because everybody just claims they were there first.
01:28:47.000And then no one actually knows who was there first, and then you fight over it.
01:29:47.000And my point ultimately is, for what reason should I as an American care that Australia, Canada, and New Zealand are gutting themselves with crackpot ideology and destroying their way of life?
01:30:00.000It just means that for us in the United States, if Canada were to break down because of these absurdities, it'll make it easier for us to get their stuff.
01:30:09.000Like, it'll make it cheaper to trade with them.
01:30:29.000I was with some government officials and one thing I noticed when touring some sites was that they're building a new stadium in San Salvador.
01:30:35.000And it literally says like a social project of the Chinese Republic.
01:30:44.000He's like, yeah, China's putting billions of dollars into El Salvador because why?
01:30:48.000They want to control the port down there, apparently.
01:30:49.000They want access—I don't know if it's trade or military.
01:30:51.000They're putting a bunch of money into Central America.
01:30:54.000And so about half the social projects—I was talking to a government official—are direct competition from the actual Chinese communist government.
01:31:01.000And so to me, like, you know— When you had a destabilized country like that, right now when it's stabilizing, you do have competition between the West and the East trying to gain control of this newfound government that's, you know, some people question whether or not what he's doing is democratic, but it worked, right?
01:31:14.000As he said, like, should we should we give up the freedom of six million for just like 60,000?
01:31:19.000You know, basically take away some human rights to save the entire population.
01:31:32.000I love the idea that I can go from country to country.
01:31:35.000You kind of don't feel like you left the United States.
01:31:37.000There is a lot of Western and American dominance in these countries.
01:31:39.000But like seeing the downfall of Canada in the last 15 years, seeing even just the Canadian dollar collapse, the Australian dollar collapse, to see the fact that like, you know, Did you see that recent video of Niagara Falls where they said that basically tourism revenue is down but visits are up?
01:31:59.000And it's because they said it's day visitors from Brampton that are visiting Niagara Falls.
01:32:05.000There's not a single Western person there.
01:32:08.000And so it's like when you see the fact, it's like there's real consequences of weakening these countries that I don't think we've realized yet.
01:33:10.000All of these Commonwealth nations were largely run by white people, and in the studies that we've pulled up, the one ethnic group with an out-group preference based on race are white liberals.
01:33:21.000So the funny thing is, when I hear this talk about, like, I certainly get why people are upset that, you know, there was a country, it was colonized, it was conquered, whatever you want to call it.
01:34:52.000White countries did this to themselves.
01:34:55.000I would say it has to do with an occupation.
01:34:57.000There's something that happened after World War II where our governments are moving towards this liberal democracy, this universal democratic hegemony.
01:35:04.000Look at Romania, what happened with the election.
01:35:05.000So my question is, and this is before I want to— Liberal economic order.
01:35:09.000Well, look, I'm actually going to defend Jewish people here for a second in saying this.
01:35:12.000Do I think because Zelensky's Jewish that I'm going to blame Jews for the downfall of Ukraine?
01:35:18.000I don't think that's fair to say just because he's ethnically or religiously—maybe he's atheist, but he's ethnically Jewish—that it's the Jews' fault.
01:35:24.000I don't think that when you look at the actual polling, that's not, you know, USAID-backed polling, but actual polling.
01:35:30.000It looks like it's not very popular, and they want the war to end.
01:35:33.000So we have a problem in Western countries post-World War II that our governments are enacting some sort of a UN agenda that is not representing what the people wanted.
01:37:05.000Polls are great, especially in aggregate, but voting matters more.
01:37:08.000So when Donald Trump wins the popular vote...
01:37:13.000I'm like, don't know, don't care, because the only poll that matters is the polling box, and Trump won.
01:37:16.000Well, and I think that there's—I think that that lends to the evidence that the American people do want to see deportations, because that was the thing that Donald— 49.8 percent?
01:37:26.000That was the thing that Donald Trump— My point is not that Kamala won the election, it's that 75 million voted for him.
01:37:31.000I'm not saying that, but I'm saying that— If you've got these polls that say that 66% of Americans want to see deportations and Donald Trump wins the popular vote and the electoral college, that strongly indicates that most Americans do want to see deportations.
01:37:46.000And what does that have to do with my point?
01:38:09.000Okay, well, also keep in mind that prior to the election, Kamala reeled back a lot of her extreme rhetoric in order to appeal to the center.
01:38:19.000And also, I just met one of these Democrats the other day just because someone voted Democrat.
01:38:26.000That doesn't mean that their heart is in every last bullet point of the Democratic Party platform.
01:39:42.000But these Democrats might try and publicly play to the center, but they will—I mean, look at when Bill Maher said, if a recession stops Donald Trump, then bring in a recession.
01:39:51.000Literally saying, destroy the economy and ruin people's lives.
01:39:55.000Now, you can go to Bill and talk about wokeness and all that stuff, and this was the issue with him.
01:39:59.000He might say to your face, hey, man, I don't like any of those things.
01:40:03.000But if a guy says, I'm not a bank robber, I hate bank robbing, and then he goes and robs a bank, he's a bank robber.
01:40:08.000My point with all of this is— It is – we've looked at the data that shows white liberals are the only – so out of all ethnic groups, the only group with an outgroup preference to any degree is white people, specifically white liberals.
01:40:26.000So when we look at all of these policies, it is an ideology among white people.
01:40:31.000My point is simply that not all white people, of course, want this.
01:40:35.000But when people talk about the ethnic makeup of this area or that area, I'm like, right.
01:40:40.000If we're talking about ethnicity, it is something about white nations.
01:40:44.000Take a look at the indigenous countries of white people, which is the various countries in Europe.
01:40:50.000Except for Poland, largely opened their borders to all these different ethnic immigrants of varying backgrounds, largely sub-Saharan African immigrants in Europe.
01:41:18.000I have a real question for you, though.
01:41:20.000So this is kind of a point of contention.
01:41:21.000So I had a point of contention with Nick Fuentes.
01:41:23.000He was telling people not to vote for Trump.
01:41:25.000I was telling people to vote for Trump, okay?
01:41:27.000And people were saying, oh, if you vote—well, he was telling people not to vote for Trump, and I was telling people to vote.
01:41:33.000And I was claiming—we had a disagreement because I was claiming that, you know— Number one, one of my assistant producers at the network, check it out, RiftTV.com, he was looking at five years in prison for a stupid J6 bogus charge, right?
01:42:11.000And I knew Trump was a biggest – I think he's a bigger Zionist than the left.
01:42:15.000I think he supports Israel unequivocally more than Biden or anybody did.
01:42:18.000So are you going to sit here and say, because I voted for Trump, because I knew that there was friends I didn't want to go to jail, and I did feel like economically and also in other areas, including the value and the patriotism of our nation, including the strength of our military, that Trump would be a better choice, that somehow – I literally said that you can disagree with something, but there's a question between whether you agree with it or support it are different things.
01:42:48.000But I'm saying the majority of Americans, I believe, from what I've seen in real polling, disagree with the immigration crisis right now, both legal and illegal.
01:43:03.000And then unfortunately, they look around and think people are disillusioned going, why does the government, why does Kash Patel say he's going to do all these things and no matter who gets in, nothing changes?
01:43:13.000So I'm saying, I also think people are intentionally misinformed.
01:43:15.000So like you're saying, well, why would they vote for this?
01:43:17.000I don't think people are all that informed and intelligent.
01:43:41.000I think either way you're going to get support for Israel.
01:43:43.000I mean, Kamala's married to a Jewish man.
01:43:44.000I didn't think we were going to see a change in that party.
01:43:46.000But my point was, I'm saying, but with what you're saying, like, oh, it's white people, I'm saying the polling shows the popular amount of white people statistically do not support these things, but the government does it anyways.
01:43:58.000And because we're in a democratic system where everyone has to say, and I will disavow it, I disavow violence, we're just trying to vote our way out of it.
01:44:06.000When it turns out in the American primary system on certain issues that Especially on Zionism, that you are not going to really get—I'm thinking of Brandon Herrera here—you're not going to really get a candidate on the Republican or Democratic side who agrees with me on that issue.
01:44:20.000They're going to put— Two people who agree on the Zionist issue to fight left and right.
01:44:24.000I'm going, that's a losing battle for me.
01:44:25.000I don't even try to fight it anymore on a voting level because I realize I'm not going to vote my way out of support for Israel.
01:44:29.000That's not going to happen in this current electoral cycle or with this generation of people running because the way the primary system is set up.
01:44:35.000So we're saying with white people, I'm saying maybe the system got rigged by people and I have to ask the question.
01:44:40.000Why would white people intentionally create an international government system that— A liberal economic order.
01:44:46.000Well, why would they do this that doesn't even focus on the deaths of white people from World War II?
01:44:50.000We don't even talk about how— Why did they open trade with China?
01:44:53.000Why would we create a system to engineer our own destruction?
01:44:57.000Because they didn't think that was going to happen.
01:44:59.000They thought opening trade with China was going to liberalize China and make China subservient to us through trade, and the opposite happened.
01:45:04.000China exploited the United States, took our manufacturing, and then mocked us for it.
01:45:08.000But we've got to go to your chats because we did push back a little late.
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01:47:21.000I feel bad for that family because if their grandpa just took that money and he put it in some sound, he hedged it, you know, maybe in metal.
01:47:29.000They'd have had something like $5 million or some huge number.
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01:49:35.000Because the non-erotic Commonwealth accent, instead of ah, they say er, right?
01:49:40.000Yeah, which is actually funny because I always ask Australian people, I was like, why do you always say the N-word And they're like, no, I'm saying it with the hard R. Then it's like, ah!
01:49:52.000At the end, you're like, oh yeah, because you can't say your R's.
01:50:01.000KO7776 says, no one is talking about the possibility someone was paying Epstein's cellmates to brutally beat him and blackmailing him into doing it.
01:50:48.000Yeah, I feel like it's a little bit demeaning, right?
01:50:50.000Like, I mean, he does take attacks at you, too, though.
01:50:51.000So, I mean, you guys are both kind of, like, cutting at each other.
01:50:53.000My point is the people who think Israel is responsible for everything, the first thing that comes to their mind in terms of the problems of this country is Israel.
01:51:33.000You care more about Israel than the fact that New York, that Joe Biden brought in, I think the actual number is like 10 million over four years.
01:51:41.000Considered to be one of the largest mass migrations in human history.
01:51:44.000I think they believe that the Jews did that.
01:51:47.000No, I honestly, because I've talked to both of you guys pretty extensively about your views, I think you misunderstand each other, but also I don't think that's true with him because I've never watched a full episode.
01:51:58.000I've never watched a full episode of this show or of his show.
01:52:00.000I've never watched a full episode of my own show.
01:52:02.000You don't end up watching your own stuff.
01:52:03.000But I've seen enough clips to where I see him talking about Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel, the military-industrial complex being a huge issue in the ear of Trump.
01:52:12.000And with you too, I think you don't get enough credit for being open and honest.
01:52:16.000Where people won't even mention Israel or Zionist or, you know, or AIPAC or any of these words, you're not afraid to talk about them despite, you know, maybe it could cause problems for monetization.
01:52:25.000So I think he has a real open opportunity to generate a lot of views and to say, if you're making these claims and he's saying that, you know, he's saying something, being able to sit down together and discuss this, I feel like this is what people want.
01:52:58.000Netanyahu, there was a Chatham House meeting with like a dozen plus journalists at the Blair House, which is basically a White House guest house.
01:53:07.000And he was talking largely about Iran getting a nuclear weapon and trying to go to war with Israel and the United States.
01:53:12.000I think it's also pretty— Well, I'm confused on that too, why he did that.
01:53:21.000But I think a lot of people want to know this.
01:53:23.000Because I'm not making any accusations because I think a lot of people are too conspiratorial and think that everything's like, you know, some undercut, cooked background thing where people are getting top-down orders from Israel.
01:53:33.000And that's really not what's happening.
01:54:03.000Yeah, he was trying to convince a bunch of media personalities that the U.S. had to support Israel, and I would say 70% of the room told him to screw off.
01:54:15.000Well, in a matter of speaking, I mean, nobody literally said screw off, but there was a really funny moment where he's like, what does Iran say?
01:56:03.000So at this meeting, I asked Netanyahu.
01:56:06.000There have been a bunch of claims that Qatar has been paying American influencers to promote anti-Israel content.
01:56:14.000And then some writer reported Tim Pool claimed Cutter was paying influencers and asked the prime minister about it who said he wasn't sure.
01:56:21.000And I'm like, I didn't tell him that it was happening.
01:56:23.000My point was people had been accusing Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and other people of being paid by Cutter, which is a smear to impugn their honor on their own opinions.
01:56:34.000So I said, do you have any evidence any of that's actually happened?
01:56:38.000Prove that this is happening if that's the case.
01:56:39.000very true because that's why I want to say this so to give credit on both sides number one do you not think that no That there would be a reason, a bias.
01:56:52.000He'd be like, yeah, Tim's somebody that I could probably get to do my work.
01:56:56.000And when that happens, with lobbying, I'm asking you, was this just like a meeting where he's just, you know, it's like Goodwill.
01:57:02.000By the way, people say you shouldn't have met.
01:57:04.000I think if you have an opportunity to meet with a world leader, you should take it.
01:57:06.000and it's kind of a pretty cool opportunity.
01:57:08.000But in a meeting like that, Or like, just to clarify, was there ever any benefits like money or any insinuation of influence or help or anything presented at a meeting like that?
01:57:28.000Or have you ever been presented with some sort of benefit from Israel?
01:57:44.000No, I know, but somebody prominent messaged me, and they're like, you know, blah, blah, blah, all your friends are taking money from Qatar.
01:57:49.000He's a very, very prominent person, and I said, cool, where's the evidence for that?
01:57:51.000Can you just send it to me because I want to be able to call them out?
01:58:06.000It said that Cutter was paying $180,000 a month to an outreach company to secure this interview.
01:58:12.000The insinuation being that Tucker Carlson was getting this money.
01:58:17.000When actually the story likely is, Cutter hires a PR firm to try and get interviews for them, and Tucker Carlson got an email from someone that he didn't know saying, would you like to interview the Prime Minister or the Premier of Cutter?
01:58:32.000Then they write a story saying Cutter paid $180,000 to get this interview, implying they paid Tucker when they actually just paid a standard PR agency to do outreach.
01:58:43.000And then they do outreach to other podcasts saying, would you like to.
01:58:49.000And it's how we actually book some of our guests and it's how I end up going on Bill Maher.
01:58:52.000But imagine if someone took that story and said, Tim Pool paid tens of thousands of dollars to get the interview with Bill Maher to imply that I had to pay him cash to do it.
01:59:02.000That's what they were trying to do to Tucker.
01:59:04.000The idea that anybody is getting paid, so of all the podcasters, the idea that anyone's getting paid by Cutter is stupid and ridiculous.
01:59:12.000The idea that anybody's getting paid by Israel is stupid and ridiculous, or Russia is stupid and ridiculous, and this is what they try and do to impugn your honor.
01:59:19.000The idea that there is just like, every faction believes there's a secret cabal of their enemies paying their adversaries.
01:59:27.000And I'm like, dude, sometimes people just have opinions.
01:59:31.000But I will say this, and we should read some more chats.
01:59:33.000The funny thing about the Israel First people, when they post things like, Tim is bought and paid for by Israel, I'm like, Well, they're not really getting their bang for their buck when I literally advocate for stripping all federal funding to Israel, like, every opportunity I get.
01:59:49.000Praise Dave Smith's arguments on the matter about America should not be involved in Israel's war.
01:59:55.000We should not be involved in their political dealings.
01:59:57.000Is that what Israel's supposedly paying for?
01:59:59.000Is that pro-Israel to say that we shouldn't be involved and we should cut off all funding to them?
02:00:04.000Well, can I ask you—this is a real question because I know we have to go on to other super chats, but do you feel genuinely—which I believe your views on Israel are authentic and it's what you believe.
02:00:13.000And I've never accused you of, like, taking money from Israel or anything like that.
02:00:34.000that you'd be able to bring on the same, you know, U.S. government officials and have the same place and invite and platform in right-wing or free speech, like areas of concentration and meetup.
02:00:45.000Like, do you think that you would have Do you think there would be negative benefits?
02:01:22.000Don't you think that one of the main reasons why Fuentes is so censored, even though him and I share vastly different views on a lot of different topics, I cannot figure out any other reason why he's debanked in all these things except for his views on Israel.
02:01:35.000Did you say that one interview recently?
02:02:40.000Ryan Tyler Cohen gets more views than Joe Rogan does.
02:02:44.000But every single video he produces is a screenshot of Trump and then something nonsensical about Trump like Trump unhinged rant viral and it's like not even news.
02:03:02.000The right's more tolerant of these things.
02:03:03.000But one of the things that I told the Triggernometry podcast, when they told me that I was wrong, they were like, you're just blanketing all the left as one.
02:03:14.000And the example is Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., Donald Trump, Elon Musk, former liberals who are now on the right because the right is accepting of views that they disagree with.
02:03:25.000For example, I'm like politically moderate.
02:03:30.000And Charlie Kirk invites me on his stage at TPUSA, which is a largely Christian conservative event, and they give me my position to talk about what we largely agree with and even express my opinions on the things I don't agree with.
02:03:42.000Because I think the right understands we're not going to all agree on everything, but we have to build coalition around the ideas that we want to succeed with together.
02:03:50.000Most of them won't build any sort of coalition with someone like Nick Fuentes.
02:03:53.000But I think the, I think the issue with Nick is that he's, He's caustic.
02:04:01.000If you look at, like Tim just mentioned, Hassan is every bit as critical of Israel as Fuentes is.
02:04:10.000But the way that Fuentes delivers it is intentionally trolly.
02:05:31.000You can check them both out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora.
02:05:34.000Laura and Deezer, don't forget the left lane is for crime.
02:05:36.000We will see you all over at rumble.com slash timcast IRL right now for the uncensored portion of the show where we'll continue the conversation.
02:07:28.000Yeah, but someone who supports far-left ideology, he probably agrees with Nick Fuentes on a lot more than with Gavin Newsom, but why won't he debate Nick then?
02:07:39.000This is the same with almost all these mainstream things.
02:07:42.000I would agree that there is a component of people don't like Nick's politics, and so there are groups that are going to be like, we don't like that guy.
02:07:55.000The first thing I pointed out, when Cassandra used to work here, and she's very anti-Israel, and she was doing bookings, we actually talked about bringing Nick on the show.
02:08:05.000The problem is, Nick's fan base is, like, I've said this before, I'll say it again, and his audience, he gets mad about it.
02:08:52.000And so I've had people who have outright said, mention Nick Fuentes on your show and spend 20 grand because the death threats are going to get intense.
02:10:24.000And the point is, not that literally everybody who follows him is a psychopath, but that when we would mention him and Any capacity.
02:10:33.000We get spammed endlessly with debate, Nick, over and over and over again.
02:10:37.000People in the chat start complaining, saying the chat doesn't work anymore.
02:10:40.000Then we have to talk about getting moderators.
02:10:42.000Then we get a bunch of emails from people saying anti-Semitic slurs, we're going to fucking kill you, rape you in the ear, and other dumb shit.
02:10:50.000We get shit that goes beyond that, where they post things that they intend to be deemed credible.
02:10:56.000Posting addresses or sending letters to places that people shouldn't know about.
02:11:09.000And that's why I first argued, I don't believe these are all Nick's fans because they only make it harder for him to actually do what he's doing.
02:11:18.000Somebody who hates him is pretending to like him so that people won't associate with Nick.
02:12:03.000I don't think it would just be Israel.
02:12:04.000I think if you – I think your moderate position – I think sometimes debates aren't about winning – You don't have – you're not important.
02:13:13.000If it's like you, Charlie, and Nick, and someone else having a discussion on a table like this, holy shit, that would blow up the internet.
02:14:14.000I feel like the reason why it bothers me in this whole schism right now is it seems like there's this breakdown about what people think we need to do in our country for the future.
02:14:28.000No, what do we call, yeah, but what do we call, I don't know what we're calling these people, these like anti-woke right people, which like, I even understand their sentiment of like where they were coming up with this idea, but they've got, they've lost their mind in terms of they're just like, they're basically just like hate Nick Fuentes and his followers and then like have, I think Lindsay called me the woke right youth recruiter, I don't know what that means.
02:17:41.000I'm like, well, yeah, because I look at my life.
02:17:43.000Like I have so many consequences and issues and things that I have to deal with because I've made – And it's like, I don't want people to go down that road.
02:17:54.000I don't want my kids to go down that road.
02:18:22.000They are the right side of the woke faction.
02:18:26.000They want to – just like the phrase alt-right, they want to create a term that will terrify disaffected liberals into not associating with certain conservative personalities.
02:18:38.000And they – it's funny because I'm a thorn in their side particularly because there's nothing they could say that would have me be in that faction.
02:20:03.000They've built incredible satire sites that have been banned by US politicians, have lobbied social media sites to ban them because they were so threatened by their humor.
02:20:13.000And it's like, to end on this, to kind of throw away your reputation, to try to stop young people from trying to earn back their birthright.
02:20:21.000Look, I'm a little bit uncomfortable sometimes with my own view.
02:20:24.000Some of the things that I've had to accept as true that I wish weren't has been really difficult in my political journey.
02:20:31.000There's so many things that I wish could just be liberalism, that we could just accept like James Lindsay's worldview, that we can just kind of do whatever we want and it's not going to have eternal consequences.
02:20:40.000I wish that were true because I'd love to not think that some of the moral choices I made in my life weren't wrong.
02:20:45.000I'd love to think that I can do whatever I want.
02:20:47.000But it's like I've had to come as I've grown up being like, you know what?
02:20:50.000There are so many unseen consequences for living a gay, liberal, godless lifestyle that really affects these countries for the negative.
02:21:48.000It is literally just the narrative machine they're told to adhere to.
02:21:51.000So when the Babylon Bee and these people come out and start attacking conservatives in a disparate fashion on wildly different ideologies, Dave Smith and Nick Fuentes probably don't like each other.
02:22:23.000So then why would any group come out and claim they're all one faction?
02:22:26.000Well, they do all criticize Zionism and Israeli influence.
02:22:30.000And so that is their only—so then the only concern that the likes of Babylon being James Lindsay has is there's a group of people concerned about Israel?
02:22:38.000I think that's honestly what Seth Dillon's issue is.
02:23:04.000Well, my question My question is for Elijah.
02:23:07.000um so all due respect you feel like a white race better race baiter excuse me um like a jesse jackson for star wars obsessed computer nerds right sure yeah it's just an american Construction for race because they didn't want people to come here as Irish or Indian or Chinese.
02:23:33.000And as a race baiter, I mean, what have I said that's baiting people that's untrue about race either tonight or previously that you disagree with?
02:23:45.000I guess I just mostly that you bring up white people so much.
02:23:50.000Yeah, because there's so much against white people institutionally in our country that somebody's got to speak out for them.
02:23:56.000So not a lot of people do, but I just choose to do that with my limited time because I can only choose a few topics to care about.
02:24:01.000Since my kids are white and I feel like their future is disadvantaged because of their skin color, I'm going to fight against the discrimination against white people.
02:24:09.000I'm not saying any other people are not discriminated against.
02:24:11.000I'm not saying that there aren't other problems.
02:24:12.000And I don't think white people are the only people with value in the world.
02:24:15.000But, I mean, quite frankly, it might be selfish.
02:24:17.000But I care about my family and my kids more than anyone else.
02:25:28.000I mean, in terms of white being a racial construct, We have different technically ethnic backgrounds, but as a racial construct, it is a real group of people.
02:25:40.000Some people can have light skin, but we all know that it is.
02:25:46.000That's why deconstructing whiteness is a big thing on the left.
02:25:48.000We know that there's a culture, behavior, architecture, a way of life and a religion that goes along with that genetic component.
02:25:56.000Genetics isn't the only precursor or perpetuation of conduct or behavior, but it is a leading force, in fact.
02:26:05.000Genetics definitely do affect who you are.
02:26:07.000Just like black people lack certain enzymes that can interfere with serotonin breakdown, which means that sometimes under stressful situations, a portion of them can act impulsively because it's more stressful for them than it is for white people.
02:26:18.000Some of them, not all of them, that is an individual genetic component.
02:26:22.000Asian people with Asian glow, a lot of them lack alcohol dehydrogenase, so they have a different breakdown of alcohol, which can affect their behavior while drunk.
02:26:30.000Our kind of fake race is very, very real.
02:26:33.000It's not the only factor that matters, but if the left is saying race matters and they're caring enough that they want to deconstruct people who look like me, destroy our way of life, and disadvantage us, then I'm going to fight where the battle is, and that's a huge battle that's going on, and I want to fight it.
02:28:47.000The leftist view of white is exactly this, that white is a social class that doesn't include, say, sometimes it doesn't include Jews, it doesn't include white Hispanics, and it doesn't include albino.
02:28:59.000Yeah, I'd say we use white as a euphemism for European or Eurocentric heritage, which is why we'd consider Australia to be a white country.
02:29:05.000It's in Asia, but technically it's Australia.
02:29:07.000It's its own continent, but it's in the Asian quadrant of the world.
02:29:09.000I know it's its own continent, so don't misquote me on that.
02:29:12.000I'm just saying they're not Asian, and obviously we know there's a difference between when we say Australian, we're not talking about aboriginals, which is why we call them aboriginals.
02:29:19.000We know there's a difference racially.