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00:02:28.000 This morning, Deputy Director of the FBI Dan Bongino announced Epstein prison surveillance videos exist and they will be released and he says, it shows, nobody was in that prison with Epstein, ergo, he must have unalived himself.

00:02:45.000 The words we have to use on these ridiculous platforms, everybody knows what he meant, right?

00:02:49.000 Everybody knows what we meant.

00:02:50.000 Well, now people are coming out and saying they don't believe the videos are real.

00:02:53.000 If they do come out, they're probably AI, and they think that Cash and Dan have sold out, and they are now part of the deep state machine.

00:03:00.000 We'll talk about it, I suppose.

00:03:02.000 We also got big news for Donald Trump.

00:03:04.000 Guess what?

00:03:05.000 Yeah, everybody the other day, all these liberals are gloating, saying Trump's tariffs got shut down by the International Court of Trade or whatever.

00:03:11.000 And sure enough, like clockwork, Donald Trump gets an appeal.

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00:03:16.000 This is why this happens all the time, okay?

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00:03:37.000 He won the appeal.

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00:03:40.000 These things got to play out because we expect the appeal to be appealed.

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00:08:18.000 Hello, everybody.

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00:08:23.000 Let's get into it.

00:08:24.000 Here's the news, whether you like it or not, from the New York Post.

00:08:27.000 FBI will soon release video that proves Jeffrey Epstein was not murdered, quote, clear as day.

00:08:33.000 Yeah, sorry, no, I don't buy that, but thanks for the headline, New York Post.

00:08:36.000 They say, FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino promised Thursday to release new video that finally debunks conspiracy theories that Jeffrey Epstein could have been murdered, insisting no one was there but him at the time of his jail cell suicide.

00:08:48.000 There's video clear as day, Bongino told Fox and Friends.

00:08:51.000 He's the only person in there, and the only person coming out, you can see it.

00:08:54.000 Wait, hold on.

00:08:56.000 Epstein was the only person who came out?

00:08:57.000 He was dead.

00:08:57.000 How?

00:08:59.000 Well, his body left the room.

00:09:01.000 Did his body levitate and float out through demonic possession? 0.99

00:09:06.000 I thought the tapes corrupted or some bullshit like that. 0.92

00:09:10.000 One of the tapes was unusable. 0.73

00:09:13.000 But ALX points.

00:09:14.000 Actually, I think I have the post from ALX.

00:09:16.000 Let me play this video, actually.

00:09:17.000 You can hear it from Dan Bongino himself.

00:09:18.000 Cases, obviously, are of significant public interest.

00:09:21.000 I'm just telling you what we see in the file.

00:09:23.000 I just want to be crystal clear on this.

00:09:25.000 I am not asking anyone to believe me.

00:09:29.000 I'm telling you what's there and what isn't.

00:09:31.000 There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case.

00:09:36.000 And there's going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly.

00:09:39.000 We are working through some videollipers.

00:09:41.000 There is video.

00:09:42.000 That is something the public does.

00:09:45.000 No, no, not the actual act, but the entire MCC Bay, it was only one camera.

00:09:52.000 There were other, there's video that when you look at the video, and we will release, that's what's taken a while on this.

00:09:58.000 We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced version.

00:10:05.000 You're going to see there's no one there but him.

00:10:07.000 There's just nobody there.

00:10:08.000 So I say to people all the time, if you have a tip, let us know.

00:10:11.000 But there's no DNA.

00:10:13.000 There's no audio.

00:10:14.000 There's no fingerprints.

00:10:15.000 There's no suspects.

00:10:16.000 There's no accomplices.

00:10:16.000 There's no tips.

00:10:18.000 There is nothing.

00:10:18.000 If you have it, I'm happy to see it.

00:10:21.000 There's video clear as day.

00:10:22.000 He's the only person in there and the only person coming out.

00:10:26.000 You can see it.

00:10:27.000 You heard him say it.

00:10:28.000 He's the only person coming out.

00:10:29.000 I have questions about how a corpse comes out.

00:10:33.000 Did they throw a rope on his legs, leave the building, and then drag his body out?

00:10:38.000 Or did he just misspeak when he said coming out?

00:10:41.000 I assume he misspoke.

00:10:44.000 They brought him out on a gurney.

00:10:46.000 Everyone's seen pictures of that.

00:10:47.000 He wasn't the only one coming out.

00:10:48.000 Well, I mean, like I said, I think that he misspoke.

00:10:52.000 As for, you know, the reaction that this is going to get, it's not going to change anyone's mind at all.

00:10:59.000 I posted something about this, that actual clip on my X account today, and I just said, you know, what do you guys...

00:11:07.000 And there were people that were attacking me for even implying that anyone would change their mind.

00:11:12.000 Bummed with me.

00:11:13.000 So it's going to be the same kind of results that the JFK files did.

00:11:18.000 Everybody that already has a preconception is going to believe that their preconception was confirmed.

00:11:22.000 Everybody's saying it's going to be an AI video.

00:11:24.000 No, I don't think so.

00:11:25.000 But I think it's really clear here.

00:11:27.000 The truth is simple.

00:11:28.000 I want to remind people of that.

00:11:29.000 Just like in 9-11, they found a passport that survived being incinerated from an airplane.

00:11:35.000 And then also another hijacker lost his luggage and found another passport.

00:11:39.000 Proving that we needed to therefore be in the Middle East for the next 20 years. 0.62

00:11:43.000 I know if they had video and it clearly showed that he committed suicide, I don't know if we can say that word on the show, but that he unalived himself, whatever the word is, I can say that would have been released and we would have had it.

00:11:55.000 When you come out...

00:12:02.000 And I know Dan, and I like Dan, so this is not a slide on him.

00:12:04.000 But he looks like he had something scared out of him.

00:12:08.000 Because he's going, listen, I have the video.

00:12:10.000 It exists.

00:12:11.000 It looks like holding a gun behind the camera.

00:12:14.000 So you have the video of him killing himself?

00:12:15.000 No, not that video.

00:12:16.000 But here's a video of my dog.

00:12:18.000 It's really cute.

00:12:19.000 And also, we have some clips of the body coming out.

00:12:21.000 And also, just because the FBI, we have no fingerprints.

00:12:24.000 Therefore, there was no criminals.

00:12:25.000 Because the only people that, either A, there was a criminal, or B, maybe the FBI and CIA were the best cover-ups of all crimes, including international crimes like 9-11.

00:12:35.000 Could have probably covered this crime up, too.

00:12:37.000 Maybe that's what happened, Dan.

00:12:38.000 Why do you think we'd believe you?

00:12:40.000 I feel like he shot his credibility with the right.

00:12:41.000 That's my opinion.

00:12:42.000 I think he's handled it poorly.

00:12:44.000 Yeah.

00:12:44.000 I like Dan.

00:12:45.000 But I feel like because he has videos that exist on his podcast where he does air quotes for Epstein's suicide, for him to just turn around and be like, nope, never happened, he needs to address what he's said about this.

00:12:45.000 I like Ash.

00:12:58.000 And I think he's—this on Fox& Friends was an attempt at— He's cleaning up his Maria Bartiromo interview where he was like, he killed himself.

00:13:07.000 And it was like, he was choking up.

00:13:10.000 Look, the Daily Show made fun of him.

00:13:13.000 Like, they showed a video of him where he's like, what, Epstein killed himself and now all the evidence is gone?

00:13:18.000 Dan needs to talk about that in his interviews.

00:13:21.000 Not just, we went through the files and then there.

00:13:22.000 He needs to say, you know, look, I was cheerleading.

00:13:26.000 I was going through this before I was in the FBI.

00:13:28.000 and so the first thing I did was I went for the evidence.

00:13:30.000 The other thing I should mention is Not that he should take my advice from me.

00:13:35.000 I'm just saying he came out and he was like, if you have tips, please give them to me.

00:13:40.000 I think he should have just kept it simple and said, I don't know what to tell you guys other than we don't have any evidence of anything.

00:13:46.000 The FBI formally, our official statement, we don't have evidence of anything.

00:13:49.000 So I'll leave it at that.

00:13:51.000 He should have done that. 0.96

00:13:52.000 It's so stupid, this thing, like, oh yeah, we can't release the video yet because we're cleaning it up to enhance, like, what? 0.99

00:13:57.000 You're, like, turning up the brightness or something? 1.00

00:13:59.000 Like, this is the government.

00:13:59.000 I'm pretty sure you have, like, a good video editor.

00:14:01.000 It's going through Lightroom, you know what I mean?

00:14:02.000 It's like, you gotta put it on an iMovie.

00:14:04.000 It's gonna take us about three weeks to, like, turn up the saturation on this video, so it's just, like, a really nice video.

00:14:11.000 It's rendering for two weeks, you know?

00:14:13.000 Yeah, but hold on.

00:14:14.000 Yeah, probably.

00:14:15.000 It's the government.

00:14:16.000 Did you see Sean Duffy did that presentation of all the FAA equipment?

00:14:20.000 They're using, like, Tandy computers from the 70s.

00:14:23.000 Their computers are like dot matrix.

00:14:25.000 It's rendering on a BlackBerry, you know?

00:14:27.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:14:29.000 BlackBerry's way too advanced for government.

00:14:31.000 They got industrial control systems from 50 years ago they're still using.

00:14:34.000 So, not that I think the surveillance footage is actually that old. 0.99

00:14:40.000 I'm just saying it probably is on a garbage old system that sucks. 0.84

00:14:43.000 Look at when Elon Musk said that federal retirements are all handled in a limestone cavern. 0.99

00:14:49.000 That was crazy.

00:14:50.000 He used a pulley system?

00:14:51.000 Oh my gosh.

00:14:52.000 And they were like, wait, they were driving tricycles through it?

00:14:54.000 Yeah, it's like they couldn't find a dwarf from New Sierra White. 0.97

00:14:56.000 They were busy working in the records mine.

00:14:58.000 I don't think anybody thought that Hillary Clinton snuck in there like this and then attacked him in the middle of the night.

00:15:06.000 It could have been anything.

00:15:07.000 I just don't understand how it's possible to hang yourself with paper-thin bedsheets from a bunk bed that's shorter than you.

00:15:15.000 That's what I don't understand.

00:15:17.000 Dan.

00:15:18.000 Dan, please.

00:15:21.000 There are men taking his body out, right?

00:15:23.000 New conspiracy theory.

00:15:24.000 Those guys killed him.

00:15:25.000 Come on.

00:15:26.000 There's no way you putting out surveillance footage proves literally anything.

00:15:33.000 There were people who took his body out.

00:15:35.000 Okay, he was alive until they went in and then found...

00:15:39.000 Again, I'm not saying this is true.

00:15:40.000 I'm saying, if you want to release surveillance footage, look, nobody's in there.

00:15:44.000 He was asked, is this footage of the cell?

00:15:46.000 No.

00:15:46.000 It's footage of the surrounding areas where no one goes in or out.

00:15:49.000 Okay, so they report that he killed himself, and Epstein's sitting there going, what did you just say?

00:15:53.000 I didn't do that!

00:15:55.000 Then two paramedics come in, and they go, crack their knuckles and say, looks like a suicide just happened.

00:16:02.000 And then the medics bring out this body.

00:16:06.000 I'm not saying that literally was what happened.

00:16:08.000 My point is, if people don't believe it, releasing the surveillance footage changes nothing.

00:16:16.000 Yeah, well, that's okay.

00:16:17.000 This is kind of the whole point.

00:16:18.000 This is making it less believable that anything else happened than him killing – or that he got killed because it's like – Trump can either do two things.

00:16:37.000 You can dissolve the agency or reform the agency.

00:16:41.000 So part of reforming it would be fixing its reputation.

00:16:43.000 The first thing you'd want to do to fix someone's reputation is release all of the evidence that could exonerate the areas in which people doubt you.

00:16:50.000 And the biggest one here is Epstein.

00:16:52.000 So what does Trump's administration do?

00:16:54.000 They, and I know some information that I don't want to say here, but, you know, they have a very interesting selection process for how they choose influencers to come to the White House to then hold up notebooks.

00:17:05.000 Like as if we were like. 0.83

00:17:07.000 So ridiculous. 0.97

00:17:08.000 And some of these people are very intelligent. 0.98

00:17:11.000 Some of these people are lawyers.

00:17:13.000 And some of them I'd call colleagues or maybe even old friends.

00:17:16.000 They smile like they got some sort of like...

00:17:24.000 It's like, this is a list of people who were abused as children.

00:17:28.000 This is not a, look at what I got.

00:17:30.000 America deserves to know if there was a blackmail operation on the elite government officials and celebrities in our nation that are controlling narratives and keeping people subjugated either under our rule, under Israel's rule. 0.67

00:17:41.000 People want to know, was this Mossad?

00:17:42.000 Was it America?

00:17:43.000 Was it both?

00:17:44.000 Was it another country involved in this?

00:17:45.000 And instead, they do that.

00:17:47.000 And then to cover it all up.

00:17:48.000 Then they go, also, we have a video that doesn't exonerate anything, but I'm whiter than I was two videos ago, Dan Bongino.

00:17:53.000 It's so weird.

00:17:54.000 You know what I love is how you get all these people, they're coming out and they're like, you know, rumors in the Beltway that Epstein was working with some Middle Eastern intelligence agency.

00:18:03.000 And everyone's like, uh-huh.

00:18:06.000 Yeah, come on. 0.77

00:18:07.000 Jordan.

00:18:07.000 The Jordanians.

00:18:10.000 They're always into that blackmail business.

00:18:17.000 I was laughing because during all this going on, did you see that weird 60 Minutes interview with Mossad where they have the guy with his voice changed and he's got the mask on?

00:18:24.000 And while people are contemplating this Epstein stuff and we're getting bad PR, Israel decides it's a good idea to put a Mossad agent on American television and goes, this is our entire, the world is our orchestra. 0.56

00:18:35.000 We write the stories.

00:18:36.000 We make up whatever we want.

00:18:37.000 That was wild.

00:18:38.000 I'm like, this is really bad timing PR.

00:18:38.000 We control everything.

00:18:41.000 Especially with everybody saying that you guys control everything and that maybe the Epstein files, maybe this is related to Israel, to come out and say, we're literally behind everything.

00:18:49.000 I feel like something's really off here.

00:18:51.000 Does anyone ever feel that?

00:18:52.000 It feels like some sort of communication isn't going on well behind the back end?

00:18:56.000 Is this on purpose or are they not coordinating? 1.00

00:18:59.000 Are they just stupid? 1.00

00:19:00.000 I don't think that they're stupid. 1.00

00:19:02.000 I think most—well, I mean, actually, I'm not sure I can say that. 1.00

00:19:06.000 No, I think the way to break it down is it's not that powerful interests, powerful individuals are stupid. 0.96

00:19:11.000 It's that it's really difficult to manage a large system. 0.94

00:19:14.000 So you can have 10 ultra-genius multi-billionaires conspiring to do something, but the job has to be handled by regular people.

00:19:24.000 So if they want a cargo move from one country to the other, you can get the best of the best special contractors or whatever to do it.

00:19:31.000 But down the line, those contractors have got accountants.

00:19:33.000 Those kind of like – so you can have the cream of the crop flying the plane and then the dude who worked at the airport failed to fuel it properly or something bad happens maintaining – Why did you do it?

00:19:49.000 I thought that's what you wanted me to do.

00:19:51.000 Yeah, I thought you wanted me to go on American broadcast television with a scary voice changer and a mask and tell everyone that Israel controls the global narrative. 0.95

00:20:01.000 To me, when something like that happens, I'm like...

00:20:12.000 To put something like that out, while botching the Epstein files, like, can I ask you, Phil, this is a genuine question.

00:20:20.000 Why would Pam Bondi, why would Cash, why would Bongino, who are very intelligent individuals, Do something like this unless there was some ulterior motive.

00:20:31.000 Because, like, I don't think there's any way I could have even, according to a playbook, botched something like Epstein, which already was doubted.

00:20:37.000 We already sat around and thought there was something hidden.

00:20:39.000 And then the Trump administration's like, we're going to blow the lid off.

00:20:42.000 and then they do this, you're going, We do have breaking news.

00:20:49.000 Let's jump to this story.

00:20:49.000 Oh, no.

00:20:50.000 Literally, this is breaking just in the past hour or so.

00:20:53.000 There's a press release from Justice.gov.

00:20:55.000 U.S. government employee arrested for attempting to provide classified information to foreign government.

00:21:01.000 An IT specialist employed by the Defense Intelligence Agency was arrested for attempting to transmit national defense information to an officer or agent of a foreign government.

00:21:10.000 Nathan Villas Lash, 28, of Alexandria, Virginia, was arrested today in Northern Virginia and will make his initial court appearance in the Eastern District of Virginia tomorrow.

00:21:19.000 According to court documents, Lash became a civilian employee of the DIA in 2019, where he works with the Insider Threat Division and holds top security clearance.

00:21:27.000 In March of 25, the FBI commenced an operation after receiving a tip that an individual now known to be Lash offered to provide classified information to a friendly foreign government.

00:21:36.000 In that email, the senator wrote that he did not agree or align with the values of this administration and was therefore willing to share classified information that he had access to, including completed intelligence products, some unprocessed intelligence, and other assorted classified documentation.

00:21:53.000 They're going to mention that they implemented an operation at a public park in Northern Virginia where Lash believed he would deposit the classified information for the foreign government to retrieve.

00:22:02.000 On or about May 1st, FBI surveillance observed Lash proceed to the specified location and deposit an item.

00:22:07.000 Following his departure, the FBI retrieved the item, which was a thumb drive later found to contain messages from Lash and multiple typed documents, each containing information that was portion marked up to the secret or top secret levels.

00:22:19.000 The message from Lash indicated that he had chosen to include a decent sample size of classified information to decently demonstrate the range of types of products to which he had access.

00:22:29.000 This is Sedition.

00:22:31.000 And this is where it's getting particularly worrisome.

00:22:36.000 This is posted by Nick Sorter saying that this is the man.

00:22:36.000 Now, we have some information.

00:22:40.000 I don't know for sure if this is the image of the guy or not, but this is what Nick Sorter has posted.

00:22:44.000 He blatantly told these voters he doesn't, quote, agree or align with the values of this administration.

00:22:49.000 Okay.

00:22:51.000 Where are we nationally?

00:22:54.000 What is this when you have hyperpolarization to the degree where holdover intelligence, Employees are intentionally giving away American secrets to hurt the Trump administration.

00:23:08.000 Is this just standard old sedition that happens?

00:23:11.000 Is it something more?

00:23:13.000 So I think that there's, if I understand correctly, there are attempts.

00:23:19.000 To spy on friendly countries from friendly countries all the time, it's very normal.

00:23:24.000 This kind of stuff, though, someone, you know, an actual asset leaking top secret and secret information to a foreign government, even if it is a friendly government, that's exceedingly rare, if I understand correctly.

00:23:38.000 Not like I'm some kind of insider that has, you know, inside knowledge, but all the stuff that I've heard, this is...

00:23:48.000 It's not very often.

00:23:49.000 He was seeking citizenship in this country, which they're claiming was friendly, and the FBI ran the sting operation for about a month.

00:23:57.000 He was transcribing pages of classified information and transmitting it.

00:24:01.000 Then they had a prearranged location to meet, and I guess they ended up arresting this guy.

00:24:06.000 They say a criminal complaint is merely an allegation.

00:24:08.000 What should the punishment be for someone who does that?

00:24:11.000 Like, just losing their job, is that all that happened to this guy?

00:24:13.000 No, it's sedition.

00:24:14.000 No, that's treason.

00:24:16.000 Well, no, but I would say, no, you said the punishment.

00:24:16.000 This is sedition.

00:24:19.000 I would say, you know, you said should. 0.97

00:24:20.000 I go, death.

00:24:21.000 I mean, honestly, we should not...

00:24:24.000 Remember J6, they were trying to try people for sedition. 1.00

00:24:26.000 But actually doing something that undermines...

00:24:35.000 Because when people make decisions to either withhold, give information, manipulate information that itself leads to the suffering or death of Americans or violates our rights or undermines the core tenets of our society.

00:24:47.000 The punishments need to be stricter because right now, Trump said he was going to come in with Patel.

00:24:51.000 They were going to clean house.

00:24:52.000 It would be arrests.

00:24:53.000 We were going to actually dissolve entire departments in the FBI, in the intelligence agencies.

00:24:59.000 And as of now, we have what?

00:25:02.000 A potential 480p video of Epstein coming out?

00:25:06.000 We don't have what they promised.

00:25:07.000 The issue is the lack of any kind of enforcement at all.

00:25:10.000 We need arrests at least.

00:25:12.000 So the issue is treason.

00:25:14.000 The penalty is like 10 years in prison or death is the range.

00:25:18.000 Sedition, I think, is like up to 10 years in prison or something.

00:25:21.000 I'm saying, would they even do the death penalty?

00:25:23.000 That's my whole point of like, it should be something, but would they even actually kill someone over it?

00:25:28.000 They would not.

00:25:29.000 I don't think so either.

00:25:30.000 But let's clarify.

00:25:32.000 Treason is adhering or providing aid to an active enemy in a time of war or conflict.

00:25:37.000 Sedition is what this guy did in actively trying to subvert or damage the government internally.

00:25:43.000 This is the difference.

00:25:44.000 The issue I'm seeing with all of it is you have Democrats that have broken the law and we don't even arrest them.

00:25:50.000 Case in point, when Kash Patel, he releases these documents to the GOP and then just the other day Grassley releases them declassified and it turns out that Nellie Orr, wife of Bruce Orr, heavily involved in the Russiagate hoax, was found by the FBI to have lied to Congress and appears to have committed multiple felonies.

00:26:08.000 They said she outright did.

00:26:10.000 No prosecution under Bill Barr.

00:26:12.000 They don't even give them a slap on the wrist.

00:26:16.000 They don't even give them a $50 ticket.

00:26:18.000 They've arrested.

00:26:18.000 Come on.

00:26:19.000 So I will say this.

00:26:21.000 Kash Patel and Dan Bongino have talked about how they found new documents.

00:26:26.000 They've released these things.

00:26:28.000 It appears like Comey's FBI was trying to hide this stuff.

00:26:31.000 This guy was clearly anti-Trump and still is.

00:26:35.000 This arrest is just the beginning.

00:26:37.000 They're releasing these documents on Nellie Orr, hopefully just the beginning, and we begin to see arrests.

00:26:41.000 and legitimate criminal indictments and prison time.

00:26:44.000 But do you legitimately think that's going to happen?

00:26:47.000 Well, I would say there's a decent probability right now based on the fact that they literally announced they arrested an intelligence officer who was leaking information or trying to, and they published documents implicating Nellie Orr.

00:27:02.000 So...

00:27:03.000 This is a great start a few months in to Cash and Dan's tenure at the FBI.

00:27:08.000 I'm not going to sit here and claim I feel with 100% confidence they're going to do it.

00:27:12.000 I'm skeptical.

00:27:14.000 But so far, indications are good.

00:27:16.000 After, what, two and a half months or whatever?

00:27:18.000 How long has Cash and Dan been in?

00:27:19.000 We are seeing the release of documents.

00:27:23.000 Did you see what Cash Patel said to, who was it, Brett Baer?

00:27:27.000 Comey is responsible for the largest criminal conspiracy in this country.

00:27:31.000 You can't just say that as the head of the FBI.

00:27:34.000 That's a bold statement.

00:27:36.000 Cash, I think he's out for some real retribution and accountability.

00:27:40.000 I hope he gets it.

00:27:41.000 I hope we get it.

00:27:42.000 So this is technically espionage, by the definition, and the punishment for...

00:27:54.000 Let's go!

00:27:55.000 But hold on.

00:27:57.000 And Donald Trump did reinstate the death penalty federally.

00:28:00.000 The federal death penalty hit, baby.

00:28:03.000 I can't see the future, but it's possible.

00:28:05.000 Like if he's found, you know, if he's found guilty and, and.

00:28:09.000 No, no, hold on.

00:28:10.000 It'd be super cool if I can see the future.

00:28:10.000 I can see the future.

00:28:12.000 I don't believe you're correct.

00:28:13.000 I don't know.

00:28:14.000 I don't believe you're correct in the literal codified – I'm pretty sure this is going to require adherence to an enemy in a time of war.

00:28:25.000 For espionage?

00:28:26.000 Yeah.

00:28:27.000 No, for treason and for sedition, treason is to help an enemy in a time of war.

00:28:34.000 Sedition is to try to overthrow the government.

00:28:37.000 But espionage is to, let's see, the punishment for espionage.

00:28:40.000 Not the punishment.

00:28:42.000 Under 18 U.S.C.

00:28:43.000 Chapter 37, anyone who communicates, delivers, or transmits information related to the national defense to a foreign entity can be punished by death or imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

00:28:56.000 So, I'm not exactly sure the products that he was...

00:29:02.000 I'm confused.

00:29:03.000 Under the Espionage Act, it has to be national defense information, which is a question we have about what this guy is being charged with.

00:29:10.000 This is important.

00:29:11.000 Let me check to see if they're announcing what the charge is.

00:29:17.000 Just classified documents to a foreign country.

00:29:19.000 They don't mention whether it's national security information.

00:29:22.000 But I think you can argue that all classified information would be national security information.

00:29:26.000 That's what's classified.

00:29:27.000 So it is gathering or delivering defense information to aid foreign governments.

00:29:34.000 18 U.S. Code, Chapter 37, espionage and censorship.

00:29:38.000 Very interesting.

00:29:39.000 Whoever with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation communicates, delivers, or transmits or attempts to communicate, deliver, or transmit to any foreign government or to any faction or party or military or naval force of a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the U.S., or to any representative, officer, agent, employee, subject, or citizen thereof, either directly or indirectly, any document, writing, code, book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic native, blueprint, plan, map, model, note, instrument, appliance, or information related to the national defense.

00:30:08.000 shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term or of years or for life, except that the sentence of death shall not be imposed unless the jury, or if there is no jury, the court, further finds that the offense resulted in the identification by a foreign power of, Let's see.

00:30:27.000 There's a parenthesis.

00:30:28.000 Okay, as defined in Section 010A of the Foreign Intelligence Act, it says...

00:30:33.000 Further finds the offense resulted in identification by a foreign power of an individual acting as an agent of the United States and consequently in the death of that individual or directly concerned nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning system or other means of defense or retaliation against large scale attacks, war plans, communications, intelligence or cryptographic information or any other major weapon system or major element of defense strategy.

00:30:58.000 So the reason why I said – so I'm going to split the baby on this one.

00:31:01.000 You were correct largely in the general – this is espionage.

00:31:04.000 You were right.

00:31:04.000 But the reason why I thought that was not correct is because the death penalty is almost exclusive – like entirely in law when you aid and abet a foreign adversary.

00:31:13.000 So the fact that it says whether you're giving away nuclear war plans, means of early warning systems or – Giving information related to an agent of America who dies.

00:31:25.000 These are very extreme and specific cases where someone will get the death penalty.

00:31:28.000 So this doesn't appear to be that.

00:31:30.000 No, they have the option of imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

00:31:34.000 So it's not necessarily that they're going to seek the death penalty.

00:31:40.000 It's an option.

00:31:41.000 It is a capital offense.

00:31:42.000 And they may make the argument, depending on what this information is.

00:31:46.000 So, it's not out of the question.

00:31:48.000 Yeah, but my question is this.

00:31:49.000 Okay, you see Trump being stonewalled by these liberal judges all across the country with every move he makes, right?

00:31:54.000 Even Elon Musk resigns from government work because his doge cuts wouldn't be codified.

00:31:59.000 His time was up as well.

00:32:00.000 He's only 130 days.

00:32:01.000 Okay, yeah, yeah.

00:32:01.000 But I'm saying he left, let's just say, without having codifying his cuts into law because Republicans worked against him.

00:32:07.000 In the end, the machine keeps winning.

00:32:08.000 Okay, so we know Trump had a first term.

00:32:11.000 He said he was going to drain the swamp.

00:32:12.000 He didn't.

00:32:13.000 He had his second term, used to not be able to say that it was a rigged election.

00:32:17.000 Now you can say maybe it was.

00:32:19.000 Who cares?

00:32:19.000 He lost.

00:32:21.000 Now he has his third term, he wins.

00:32:21.000 Whether it was fair or not, he lost.

00:32:27.000 You're seeing there's the deep state undermining in the FBI.

00:32:30.000 When, and I say this to Trump, to Bongino, when are people going to realize playing nice with these guys, trying to do the bare minimum is going to impact this country?

00:32:39.000 If you don't make an example of some of these people, they raided your house, Trump.

00:32:43.000 They went and raided your home over papers.

00:32:47.000 You've got to go extreme mode on these guys.

00:32:50.000 Arrest them.

00:32:50.000 I agree with you.

00:32:51.000 Yeah.

00:32:52.000 Put them in jail.

00:32:53.000 Find out what the maximum penalty is.

00:32:54.000 Tell the public we are going to explore the harshest penalties under legal written word.

00:33:00.000 And whatever that is, we are going to slam the law down and we're going to lay down the book.

00:33:04.000 And you know what?

00:33:05.000 Anybody else that's going to do this, we are going to come after you.

00:33:07.000 And then we're going to, as Congress, try to rewrite some of our laws so that we can handle this treason in our government.

00:33:15.000 So I want to be legally careful.

00:33:17.000 treason is adhering to an enemy.

00:33:23.000 Right now we have a corrupt government.

00:33:25.000 We have to clean up the government. 0.93

00:33:26.000 My point is not that we shouldn't have harsh penalties.

00:33:30.000 It's that treason is defined as adhering to an enemy in a time of war.

00:33:33.000 And a lot of people say they're traitors, but traitors to who?

00:33:37.000 It's a seditious conspiracy, which is – It's just different, right? 0.98

00:33:44.000 The submission should be met with death, too.

00:33:46.000 My point is that these people are getting away with it because they can. 0.99

00:33:51.000 That's the problem.

00:33:52.000 You've told them there's not a lot of penalties.

00:33:54.000 It's the same thing that happens with these cashless bail laws or whatever that happens in New York or whatever.

00:33:59.000 If you start letting criminals go, or in California, if you stop penalizing people for shoplifting, shoplifting increases.

00:34:05.000 Unfortunately, criminals are going to be criminals.

00:34:07.000 So when you tell real criminals in our government, you know...

00:34:13.000 It not only tells people that it's not a very serious crime, but why even spend time going after these people if you're in the government or trying to clean it up?

00:34:20.000 They don't get punished.

00:34:21.000 I don't think the death penalty is a deterrent for these people.

00:34:24.000 Let's see them executed on live TV by the state and see if people start.

00:34:28.000 This is, look, with all due respect, I think that's an emotional request that doesn't actually strike at the core of what's wrong with this country.

00:34:37.000 They revel in their arrests.

00:34:39.000 They revel in their punishment.

00:34:41.000 Many of these people are nihilists who—that's their path to immortality, martyrdom.

00:34:46.000 They would seek that intentionally.

00:34:48.000 I don't think that actually deals the issue.

00:34:50.000 There's actually a simple solution.

00:34:52.000 We arrest them under existing codified law and put them away, and they can't run again.

00:34:58.000 They're out of the system.

00:34:59.000 They're no longer in politics.

00:35:01.000 Case closed.

00:35:02.000 If you give them a path towards martyrdom, many of these younger people, they intentionally seek out these circumstances.

00:35:08.000 So you have to be careful about—I'll put it this way.

00:35:12.000 Do you know why the deep state doesn't assassinate people anymore?

00:35:15.000 You don't think they assassinate people anymore?

00:35:17.000 Sometimes, but not as often as they used to.

00:35:19.000 Because it creates—it immortalizes their ideology.

00:35:19.000 Okay, why?

00:35:22.000 And so they go for—what the intelligence agencies try to do now is character assassination.

00:35:26.000 Really great example is Julian Assange.

00:35:29.000 What did they do to Julian Assange?

00:35:30.000 Hillary Clinton said, can't we drone this guy?

00:35:32.000 They didn't.

00:35:33.000 They accused him of rape, which was a lie.

00:35:36.000 He wasn't even charged with it. 0.98

00:35:38.000 And they ran stories throughout the press that he was a molester and rapist trying to destroy his legacy. 0.81

00:35:44.000 Who else do you think they're doing that to? 0.91

00:35:46.000 I don't know. 0.98

00:35:47.000 I mean, they accused Trump of being a rapist. 0.89

00:35:49.000 They fabricated a fake case against him.

00:35:51.000 What about Andrew Tate?

00:35:51.000 Do you think they're doing that to him, or do you think that's true?

00:35:53.000 Andrew Tate admitted to saying a lot of things that he said and doing a lot of things that he's done.

00:35:57.000 Not that every claim they've made against him is true, but the dude was basically like a digital online, what, pimp, I guess?

00:36:04.000 Yeah, and that's not illegal, though. 0.99

00:36:10.000 And I would like to see him like that, too, for just being a little bitch. 1.00

00:36:13.000 The Andrew Tate thing is a sharp contrast from Donald Trump. 0.99

00:36:16.000 Like, Andrew Tate, who actually was, I guess, I don't know, was a digital pimp.

00:36:21.000 Like, he was running these women's social media accounts.

00:36:23.000 Yeah, but they're charging him with rape.

00:36:25.000 My point is, I literally don't care.

00:36:28.000 Like, Andrew Tate is meaningless. 0.92

00:36:29.000 Donald Trump is the president, and they falsely accuse him of rape.

00:36:32.000 No, but we're having a conversation about the deep state using lawfare against people.

00:36:36.000 Sabotaging their reputation to come after them.

00:36:38.000 And what significance is Andrew Tate in terms of our existing government structure?

00:36:43.000 He has political influence.

00:36:45.000 He's woken up young men. 0.76

00:36:46.000 Like, I would say young men are feeling boldened to fight the gynocracy because of Andrew Tate clips on TikTok and on Snapchat and Instagram. 1.00

00:36:54.000 And I think that you see the UK creating entire curriculum in their schools to try to fight the taterization, they call it, of their youth. 0.88

00:37:02.000 Young men who are becoming misogynistic, they want to keep men docile, right? 1.00

00:37:05.000 They fight against their testosterone levels. 0.99

00:37:06.000 They don't want you realizing that the world wasn't always run by the vagina, right? 1.00

00:37:10.000 They don't want you to know that. 0.61

00:37:11.000 So with Tate, again, I do think this lawfare, and I don't want to talk about him too much, Maybe there's even some gray areas where it's like, hey, maybe that was something non-consensual.

00:37:26.000 But they don't come after you or they don't put the law down on you until they see you as a threat.

00:37:30.000 So they all have skeletons in their closet.

00:37:33.000 They only enforce the law when you come against their system.

00:37:37.000 Russell Brand is also another point.

00:37:40.000 Conor McGregor.

00:37:41.000 The issue with Andrew Tate, in my opinion, is that This one's not as easy to point out as they're clearly lying, like Julian Assange.

00:37:49.000 Julian Assange running WikiLeaks, exposing the U.S. Apache helicopter blowing up journalists in the Middle East.

00:37:57.000 How do we deal with this guy?

00:37:59.000 Hillary Clinton said, can we drone him?

00:38:00.000 No, you can't.

00:38:01.000 He's in London.

00:38:02.000 So what do they do?

00:38:03.000 They create some ludicrous story about him. 0.85

00:38:06.000 I think the story was that he was with the woman the condom broke.

00:38:08.000 She wanted him to get an STD test, and so the media ran a story. 0.79

00:38:11.000 He raped her, which is just never the case.

00:38:14.000 If they actually tried to stop him from doing his job, they'd immortalize him. 0.81

00:38:17.000 They'd create 10,000 new Julian Assange's.

00:38:21.000 And they learned that throughout the history of the assassinations they took in the modern era.

00:38:25.000 We'll just leave it at that.

00:38:27.000 Today, look what they do to Trump.

00:38:28.000 They did a little bit.

00:38:29.000 I mean, I don't know who tried to kill Donald Trump.

00:38:32.000 The first time.

00:38:33.000 But Dan Bongino saying there's no there there, I don't find credible at all.

00:38:37.000 But just to wrap it up, because we do have to jump to the next story.

00:38:40.000 My point is largely, character assassination is the main play they take now, because death is not a deterrent for people seeking immortality.

00:38:47.000 But isn't that what they do with anyone? 0.97

00:38:49.000 Even Nick Fuentes, I feel like I see a lot of people making a lot of really ludicrous claims about his character, or he's gay, or that whole Destiny, he sucked Destiny's dick thing, or whatever. 0.99

00:38:59.000 Destiny. 0.99

00:39:00.000 Or, yeah, but that's false.

00:39:01.000 And it's like, that was all going on.

00:39:04.000 I'm going, what is the relevance of this?

00:39:06.000 And it's like, well, you just don't like what he's saying about women or about Israel.

00:39:09.000 And so you're kind of like calling him gay, which is like a high school thing. 0.92

00:39:12.000 It's like, oh, well, you're gay or whatever. 0.96

00:39:14.000 Because they're targeting young men.

00:39:15.000 Well, yeah, but I was like, I mean, he's a good example.

00:39:17.000 a lot of these people, whether you agree with them or not, I know you guys don't necessarily get along where you guys are neutral, but it's like, I do start to wonder, I don't have any ties to Russell.

00:39:25.000 Even with Tate, I kind of think a lot of what he did Like, you know, just because I disagree with you or I think you've made some immoral choices or maybe, you know, you might be more extreme than me.

00:39:42.000 I feel like we've got to start defending more people, and what we're seeing is that these character assassinations don't work.

00:39:47.000 Tate still has his following and is still popular.

00:39:49.000 Fuentes isn't going anywhere, despite what they say about him.

00:39:52.000 I don't know if that whole plan that they had works anymore, because everyone's just like, look, we've heard it all before.

00:39:57.000 If you fight the system, they're going to make accusations.

00:39:59.000 It's all over.

00:40:00.000 This is my point.

00:40:01.000 When a thought leader in some capacity is killed, then you create a legacy and you immortalize them.

00:40:09.000 Who was it?

00:40:11.000 Was it Aristotle?

00:40:12.000 Who's the guy who ate the berries?

00:40:14.000 They were like, pay a fine or die.

00:40:15.000 And he was like, I'll die. 0.96

00:40:17.000 Socrates.

00:40:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:20.000 You know, he was like, I'll take immortality.

00:40:22.000 I'll die. 1.00

00:40:22.000 And they were like, oh, crap. 1.00

00:40:24.000 That's crazy. 0.96

00:40:25.000 Yeah, so, you know, my point is, the first thing that needs to happen before anybody jumps to change the law, Congress needs to take action, because that's never going to happen, is, hey, it's already illegal.

00:40:37.000 Let's just enforce the law that we have on the books right now that's been neglected by Republicans for a decade.

00:40:44.000 And then I think we're starting to see that door open.

00:40:47.000 I understand the frustration that you're articulating, Elijah.

00:40:52.000 There is a lot of people that are like, look, we want to see these things to happen.

00:40:56.000 We want to see this.

00:40:56.000 But we talked about this or have spoken about this multiple times on the show.

00:41:00.000 They have to have all of their ducks in a row if they're going to arrest people, because any kind of inconsistency, any way that anybody that gets arrested can possibly produce So they have to have the best case imaginable.

00:41:19.000 So if it takes a little extra time for them to produce the most solid case possible, I'm okay with it.

00:41:26.000 Do you actually think it will happen, though?

00:41:28.000 Do I think that people will get arrested?

00:41:30.000 Yeah.

00:41:31.000 I don't know that I think one way or the other.

00:41:33.000 I mean, I can tell you what I hope for and what I want, but I don't get...

00:41:40.000 I don't feel like I can do that at all.

00:41:42.000 I do want to see people get arrested.

00:41:45.000 I would love to see a whole boatload of people thrown in jail, but I don't have a sense as to what will happen.

00:42:09.000 and I'm effing old.

00:42:10.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:42:12.000 We got this one from CNBC.

00:42:13.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Trump wins.

00:42:14.000 Trump tariffs reinstated by appeals court for now.

00:42:18.000 How about the headline, Trump's tariffs frozen by lower court for now?

00:42:23.000 You see, they don't do that, right?

00:42:24.000 When Trump had his tariffs frozen by the International Trade Court, that's the headline.

00:42:29.000 Trump's tariffs frozen.

00:42:30.000 When the appeals court says, nah, they write, for now.

00:42:34.000 because you can see the direction of their bias.

00:42:37.000 They say the federal appeals court on Thursday granted The Trump admin had earlier told the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit that it would seek emergency relief from the Supreme Court as soon as Friday if the tariff ruling was not quickly put on pause.

00:42:53.000 The judgment issued Wednesday night by the U.S. Court of International Trade is temporarily stayed until further notice while this court considers the motions papers.

00:43:02.000 The pause gives the Trump administration some breathing room as it prepares to argue that the trade court's ruling should be halted for the duration of the appeals process.

00:43:10.000 Trump officials maintain that they have other options for imposing tariffs, even if they do not prevail in the case.

00:43:16.000 Quote, even if we lose, we will do it another way, Trump trade advisor Peter Navarro told reporters at the White House on Thursday afternoon.

00:43:22.000 So these have already been taking effect.

00:43:24.000 There was one big story I can speak to in the skate industry where professional athletes were losing their sponsorships because shoe companies are going out of business.

00:43:33.000 We don't make shoes here in the United States anymore.

00:43:35.000 So I don't know how you guys feel about this.

00:43:37.000 You pro-tariff, anti-tariff?

00:43:39.000 Well, I think the tariffs are necessary.

00:43:41.000 Like, I don't know if there was any way that we could put pressure on foreign governments, especially like you look at Australia or a lot of these small countries.

00:43:47.000 They're absolutely taking advantage of the United States.

00:43:50.000 And I don't want to make Canada a 51st state because, well, we have enough Indians in our country, so we don't need an Indian state. 1.00

00:43:56.000 But I will say, that's a joke.

00:43:58.000 But, you know, it's got its own problems.

00:44:00.000 It does.

00:44:01.000 Look at Brampton.

00:44:01.000 But at the same time, it's like the tariffs themselves are a temporary pain.

00:44:06.000 That we must endure in order to recover a lot of our discrepancies in the trade war.

00:44:12.000 So I don't know anyone with a mind, either left or the right, that are against these that actually understand economics.

00:44:16.000 I never met someone that was like, even lefties that I know, unless they're like deranged lefties, but they're like, Well, like, yeah, lefties I know, well, yeah, but the ones that are well-educated, that actually are actual engineers, not the engineers that we're importing, but the actual engineers, thought leaders in their fields are like, you know, this is pretty unbalanced, what's been happening, especially with some of these smaller Western countries.

00:44:42.000 We're providing their military aid, their support.

00:44:43.000 We're spending so much of our own money, unrealized payments that's not even included in just the money we're losing in the trade deficit.

00:44:50.000 But maybe Americans should wake up too.

00:44:52.000 Maybe we shouldn't have shipped all of our production, our processing, and our development to every other country.

00:44:57.000 Like maybe it wasn't a good idea that everything's made outside of our country.

00:45:01.000 Like maybe people need to realize that.

00:45:02.000 Yeah, I mean that's true, but I don't – I'm not sure that there's going to be a great onshoring, right?

00:45:12.000 Like the cost of doing, you know, making, you know, Here in the United States, the cost of living, you have to pay people significantly more to make whatever it is that you're making.

00:45:32.000 Whereas in India, you have so many, you know, there's one point whatever billion people in India, so they'll work for significantly less.

00:45:40.000 They have a way lower standard of living.

00:45:42.000 The cost of living over there is significantly less, so you can get away with it.

00:45:46.000 So I don't imagine that the tariffs are going to incentivize a massive onshore.

00:45:52.000 There will be some companies that open new production facilities, but I don't think that it's going to be some kind of big getting all the jobs back the way that some people seem to have hopes for.

00:46:04.000 Shouldn't we try, though?

00:46:06.000 I'm certainly not against the idea of trying to.

00:46:08.000 I mean, I would like to see more effort put into deregulation and more effort into controlling unions, because I think those two things would be better to incentivize production of products here in the U.S. I think that getting rid of EPA laws, getting rid of, you know...

00:46:34.000 So yeah, I'm totally on board with your point.

00:46:36.000 I just don't think that the tariffs are going to do what Yep.

00:46:43.000 Like we're not able to think We only think in terms of an election cycle.

00:46:48.000 So that's why we never really progress in any meaningful way.

00:46:51.000 That's the exact reason why we have the national debt that we do.

00:46:54.000 You know, the 36 or whatever now trillion dollar debt that we have and that's looming.

00:46:59.000 And you see the results in the bond market last week.

00:47:02.000 The bond sales was really, really soft.

00:47:04.000 These things are coming, and they're not getting fixed by any...

00:47:11.000 If it doesn't happen during my administration, then it's fine.

00:47:14.000 When in reality, it's all of the administrations that have done nothing in the past 40 or whatever years.

00:47:21.000 It's the Uniparty.

00:47:23.000 They love shipping jobs.

00:47:24.000 Like genuinely, we will not see a full economic recovery unless we do three things.

00:47:28.000 I believe we have to punish companies who are Like, hey, you want to do this, we're going to make it cost the same as doing it here, or cost more.

00:47:39.000 Basically, there has to be a punishment for companies, because this is this whole crony capitalism thing.

00:47:43.000 When capitalism doesn't benefit the country, then I'm going to sound like a far lefty here, but when you start just benefiting a few billionaires, a few families, like when you see the, we talked about it last time I was here, like the Walton family, or when you see people offering you the cheapest products, everything's foreign, you pay your employees nothing, and you're ranking in $40, $50 billion each a year.

00:48:01.000 You've got to ask yourself the question, do we want a country where the economy helps a select few?

00:48:06.000 Not only is that bad for us in general, that also leads to the rise in far-left communist ideas.

00:48:10.000 It actually starts leading into a far-left push in young people who realize, what's the solution to this?

00:48:15.000 Oh, communism.

00:48:16.000 Let's take back the means of production.

00:48:17.000 So I think it's dangerous.

00:48:18.000 We have to punish companies.

00:48:19.000 Two, we've got to get rid of some of these trade agreements.

00:48:21.000 We need to not make it easier to ship jobs overseas.

00:48:24.000 It shouldn't be so easy.

00:48:26.000 And three, we've got to put a stop to legal immigration. 0.95

00:48:28.000 Like, you cannot...

00:48:30.000 Like, I remind people, I have a personal vendetta against...

00:48:35.000 Wait, what?

00:48:37.000 They almost killed me.

00:48:37.000 I literally had like a mini heart attack from medication they gave me and I went to the hospital and they told me it was a lethal amount of opiates when I broke my foot and I wasn't supposed to be on opiates and it was a lethal amount and they were surprised I didn't die.

00:48:49.000 and it was an Indian who Australia led into Australia, and then I looked up and I found out they weren't holding Australian doctors to have the same credentialing and the bar licensing as the Australian doctors.

00:49:01.000 I almost died.

00:49:04.000 Medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the United States.

00:49:07.000 After what?

00:49:08.000 Heart disease is number one.

00:49:09.000 Medical malpractice?

00:49:10.000 Yeah, but that was avoidable.

00:49:11.000 Disease and cancer.

00:49:12.000 Yeah.

00:49:13.000 I think the important thing to understand, though, is that heart disease is typically just age.

00:49:17.000 So when we say people die of heart disease, it's like, yes, when they're very old, your heart disease is out.

00:49:21.000 Same thing with cancer as well.

00:49:22.000 Right, and so that means that the actual first cause of human death is malpractice.

00:49:26.000 Probably, yeah.

00:49:27.000 That's crazy.

00:49:28.000 That is wild.

00:49:29.000 And there are people that, there was someone that I was talking to on the internet the other day, and they were saying, oh, you know, what we should do is we should make sure that people can afford medical school and blah, blah, blah.

00:49:37.000 I'm like, no, I don't want more people going to medical school.

00:49:40.000 Right now, it's the third leading cause of death.

00:49:42.000 I want the best people going to medical school.

00:49:44.000 I don't want it to be easier to get into medical school.

00:49:46.000 I want it to be harder to get into medical school, so that way the people that are graduating medical school are actually qualified.

00:49:52.000 Don't make it easier.

00:49:53.000 Don't give people more money.

00:49:55.000 That's a terrible idea.

00:49:55.000 F that.

00:49:57.000 That will end up with more people dying.

00:49:59.000 Stop calling it practice.

00:50:00.000 I hate that it's called medical practice.

00:50:01.000 Like, please don't practice on me. 1.00

00:50:03.000 Don't get that shit down! 0.99

00:50:04.000 Yeah, it's like, can we call it medical professionalism or expertise, maybe? 1.00

00:50:09.000 It's like, oh, I'm just a test subject.

00:50:11.000 Unbelievable.

00:50:12.000 Unbelievable.

00:50:13.000 Yeah, you know, I think this comes up quite a bit in all of these stories, but a lot of this news feels like stamp collecting in that it's immaterial to the bigger problem we're facing, infertility.

00:50:26.000 And so I'm just bringing this up in terms of talking about the immigration, why they're bringing all these people in is because they know that our labor force is going to collapse. 0.89

00:50:33.000 And it's because people don't have kids.

00:50:35.000 And without human beings to maintain the labor force, you're going to have 0% unemployment.

00:50:40.000 And that's not a good thing.

00:50:42.000 Because people think unemployment means people are down on their luck.

00:50:45.000 Unemployment just means people could be between jobs.

00:50:47.000 So that means there's flexibility in the labor market.

00:50:49.000 Let's say you're an IT guy at a company.

00:50:53.000 You've got a savings.

00:50:54.000 You're like, I need to do something more.

00:50:56.000 I'm not making enough money for my family.

00:50:57.000 I'm going to go start looking for work.

00:50:59.000 You end up leaving the job.

00:51:00.000 It's not working out as well, but you're on a savings.

00:51:02.000 You're not destitute.

00:51:03.000 You've got a family.

00:51:04.000 And for three months, you're unemployed.

00:51:06.000 That's flexibility that allows companies to find available talent.

00:51:10.000 Zero percent means there's zero growth.

00:51:12.000 Everybody's struggling.

00:51:13.000 And it's not actually going to be zero percent.

00:51:14.000 It's going to be negative.

00:51:16.000 Businesses are going to be completely – there's not going to be enough people for the companies that want to operate.

00:51:21.000 And so they're going to start shrinking and collapsing.

00:51:24.000 Then we're going to see technology start breaking apart.

00:51:27.000 You need a population size directly relates to the scale of technology.

00:51:32.000 And so in the next 10, 15, 20 years, we're going to be dealing with the complete economic collapse of the global financial system.

00:51:40.000 And I don't see how they keep it patched together.

00:51:44.000 Perhaps they can.

00:51:46.000 I don't know.

00:51:47.000 I'm not a global economist or whatever.

00:51:49.000 But based on the fact that every nation...

00:51:54.000 These tariffs are stamp collecting.

00:51:56.000 Right.

00:51:57.000 None of it's going to matter when you're not going to have the people to drive the boats to transport the cargo in the first place.

00:52:02.000 Nobody's going to be—they're going to be like, hey, we want to make—you know what?

00:52:06.000 I went to a Dollar Tree, and they had these foam footballs.

00:52:09.000 You ever see those dollar foam footballs that playgrounds have?

00:52:14.000 And I'm just thinking, like, there's this big bin of them and they're all buck each.

00:52:17.000 And I'm just thinking, man, there's a factory out there somewhere mass producing these useless things that nobody wants.

00:52:22.000 But it's so cheap, nobody cares.

00:52:24.000 Those won't exist.

00:52:26.000 Because people are going to be like, hey, here are the jobs that we have available.

00:52:30.000 Fishermen.

00:52:31.000 And you're going to be like, I guess that's the job I'm doing because I have to eat food.

00:52:34.000 We need coal.

00:52:36.000 We need oil.

00:52:37.000 We need lumber. 0.72

00:52:38.000 We need bricks. 1.00

00:52:39.000 Nobody wants your stupid foam football. 1.00

00:52:41.000 So all of these ancillary luxury is gone. 1.00

00:52:44.000 And then a lot of the garbage that's made by China won't matter anyway. 1.00

00:52:47.000 These tariffs aren't going to matter. 0.99

00:52:48.000 I think the reason why Trump is doing – the reason Trump is doing all this stuff now, obviously, when this collapse starts happening, if we do not have a basic manufacturing base for our core essentials, we are fucked. 0.78

00:53:07.000 There's none.

00:53:13.000 The problem was 20 years ago.

00:53:15.000 I think they said during the 2007-2008 crash, one of the experts came out and said, 20 years from now, there is going to be, or 18 years from now, there will be a deficit.

00:53:26.000 in 18-year-olds entering the job force and entering universities, which is going to cause a financial crisis because this wave is going to hit the universities who will face a budget shortfall.

00:53:36.000 Companies won't have talent to onboard, so there's going to be no entry-level jobs.

00:53:39.000 What did we get?

00:53:41.000 Democrats said, open the doors and let literally everybody in the country.

00:53:44.000 That was their, it's not a solution.

00:53:46.000 It actually kind of makes it worse.

00:53:50.000 It does.

00:53:51.000 You can't flood the country with low-skill labor because you're not training high-skill labor.

00:53:55.000 And so these Democrat blank slaters literally thought if you give a degree to an immigrant, they're now an expert.

00:54:01.000 I was like, yeah, that was never the case.

00:54:03.000 So what happens is, let's say you have this labor tree of very few high-skill labor, and at the bottom you have 60% low-skill labor, 30% medium-skill labor, and 10% high-skill labor.

00:54:15.000 They said, OK, we're facing a massive deficit in the younger generation.

00:54:19.000 Flood the country with low skill labor.

00:54:20.000 Now it's impossible for American young people to get the jobs they need to start their careers, build their wealth and become high level experts.

00:54:27.000 So the country will eventually just be a slum if that's the path we go down.

00:54:31.000 The inverse is we don't have the labor force and our manufacturing is in China.

00:54:36.000 I think Trump's plan is basically, this is going to happen no matter what.

00:54:44.000 You can tell everybody in the world to have babies right now.

00:54:46.000 And it'll take 20 years for that impact.

00:54:49.000 So as of right now, what do we do for the next five years?

00:54:52.000 Get our manufacturing back ASAP through emergency tariffs.

00:54:55.000 That's not what they're doing, though.

00:54:56.000 They're just importing the third world. 1.00

00:54:57.000 That's what Democrats were doing.

00:54:59.000 Trump's stopping them.

00:54:59.000 It's not just Democrats.

00:55:00.000 I mean, look at Australia.

00:55:01.000 Look at New Zealand.

00:55:02.000 I mean, they're just importing Indians, literally. 0.95

00:55:06.000 This is the Western liberalism.

00:55:08.000 I'm saying, in the United States, Trump is not that.

00:55:11.000 So we can talk about Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and all those other countries.

00:55:13.000 Yeah, America was doing it too. 1.00

00:55:14.000 Did Trump not come out in support of the H-1B visas recently?

00:55:17.000 He did.

00:55:18.000 So how is he not doing it?

00:55:19.000 There's a big difference between H-1B visas and opening the door to 20 million illegal immigrants in four years.

00:55:24.000 I mean, there's a difference, but it's still contributing to the problem.

00:55:28.000 I disagree.

00:55:29.000 I think the problem is low fertility and an excess of low-skilled labor. 0.94

00:55:33.000 Now, the problem is the exploitation of H-1Bs.

00:55:37.000 If H-1Bs were actually mid-to-high-level talent, then it would be largely okay, depending on the level of visas they're giving out. 0.82

00:55:44.000 The issue is that, dude, a bunch of these companies are giving out H-1Bs for like cashiers and it's a clear exploitation.

00:55:50.000 So fundamentally, H-1Bs. 0.99

00:55:56.000 And I mean, there's plenty of young men who got these computer science degrees and they try to get a job in the tech industry.

00:56:01.000 And like they're having to compete with Indians who don't even they're not even American at all. 0.99

00:56:05.000 I think there is something to be said for.

00:56:08.000 So it's the high school jobs, too.

00:56:10.000 I think we had talked about this before. 0.99

00:56:12.000 Elon Musk complained that Americans are bad workers, that these young men suck, they're lazy, they're entitled. 0.99

00:56:17.000 Yeah, so Vivek, too. 1.00

00:56:18.000 And I think we were talking about this. 0.85

00:56:19.000 That was Vivek Banley, who said that we were like the generation of TV-binging, pep rally-going losers. 0.89

00:56:28.000 And he's right. 0.52

00:56:29.000 And my point was, so what?

00:56:31.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:56:31.000 I don't know.

00:56:33.000 I gotta finish the point.

00:56:34.000 He is correct. 1.00

00:56:36.000 Millennials are lazy and- Entitled losers. 1.00

00:56:38.000 Not every single one. 1.00

00:56:39.000 The point is, so what?

00:56:41.000 If you don't hire them and start forcing them into this system, we will never recover.

00:56:46.000 When you break your leg, you don't go, I'm not going to walk because my leg's broken.

00:56:51.000 We have the worst legs.

00:56:52.000 Someone should carry me. 0.85

00:56:53.000 No, you go to physical therapy and start struggling to walk and you get a cane and you get a cast or you get a wheelchair and then you start to rebuild your strength so you can walk again.

00:57:01.000 We have a crummy generation. 0.96

00:57:03.000 Gen Z and millennials are largely entitled and lazy. 1.00

00:57:03.000 That's a fact. 1.00

00:57:06.000 But if we don't force them and start doing that physical therapy, that labor therapy to get them back into the mentality of meritocracy, we just collapse.

00:57:15.000 No, but it's just based on this lie, though.

00:57:17.000 Corporations aren't not hiring Gen Z men because they're lazy. 1.00

00:57:21.000 They're not hiring them because they can pay Indians less and treat them worse.

00:57:26.000 That coincides with laziness.

00:57:29.000 What?

00:57:30.000 it coincides.

00:57:33.000 It's because Americans actually have standards.

00:57:34.000 And we should, as we should.

00:57:35.000 And so if...

00:57:37.000 See, that's communism.

00:57:40.000 The idea that some young person is going, I don't want to work for so little, so I won't work at all.

00:57:46.000 Okay, bye.

00:57:47.000 Get out.

00:57:48.000 No, but this international competition, They want money that the companies aren't paying because they can pay immigrants cheaper. 0.89

00:57:54.000 No, maybe you just want to be able to afford a home.

00:57:58.000 So you should be able to get paid more.

00:58:00.000 The cost of living is high.

00:58:01.000 That's not communism because the government isn't forcing the corporations to pay more. 0.69

00:58:07.000 I'm saying the idea that young people should not have to work because they're not getting paid enough is silly.

00:58:14.000 I'm not saying that they shouldn't have to work.

00:58:17.000 Gen Z should take a job at a lower pay. 1.00

00:58:20.000 Why?

00:58:21.000 Because you have to work to make money and you don't get things for free.

00:58:24.000 Well, what is the solution to maintain a standard of living then?

00:58:31.000 The problem with housing and all of the system is not just one thing.

00:58:35.000 So first, obviously, if we get rid of the flood of immigration, wages go up because the corporations are forced to compete with each other. 0.99

00:58:43.000 That's my point.

00:58:44.000 So then why do you support the H-1B visas?

00:58:47.000 I support a functional immigration system.

00:58:50.000 H-1Bs aren't a functional immigration system.

00:58:52.000 So you don't support H-1B visas?

00:58:54.000 See, this is a semantic issue.

00:58:54.000 No, no.

00:58:56.000 I support the idea that we brain drain other countries and provide visas for mid- to high-skill labor. 1.00

00:59:02.000 They're not that smart.

00:59:03.000 It's not brain draining them.

00:59:04.000 There's plenty of smart Americans that should be given.

00:59:08.000 Yeah, it is.

00:59:09.000 No, it isn't.

00:59:10.000 I'm saying if we are intentionally going to insert any country and taking literally their high-skill labor, you saying, but we're not doing that, we're in agreement on that.

00:59:20.000 H-1B is broken.

00:59:21.000 But no, this is a very modern interpretation of immigration past 1960.

00:59:25.000 There's two things wrong with this.

00:59:26.000 Number one, if you claim that you're trying to make the world a better place for that Gen Z is illegal, I mean, sorry, lazy, and that we should bring in or ship out these illegals, bring in legal immigrants because that's the solution. 0.99

00:59:38.000 Because Gen Z is just lazy. 1.00

00:59:39.000 No one's arguing that.

00:59:40.000 No, people are saying that.

00:59:41.000 Who argued that?

00:59:42.000 Well, you're saying they're lazy.

00:59:43.000 These are good replacements because Gen Z won't work for the low wages. 1.00

00:59:46.000 And millennials.

00:59:47.000 We'll work for those wages.

00:59:48.000 See, this is a mistake you're making. 0.82

00:59:51.000 It is a fact that Gen Z and millennials are entitled and lazy. 1.00

00:59:54.000 And as a generality, not every single one of them.

00:59:56.000 I think so.

00:59:57.000 A lot of them are moving towards the right.

00:59:58.000 And I think anybody saying otherwise is trying to pander to Gen Z for the audience.

01:00:02.000 No, but look, that's actually not the case.

01:00:04.000 I'm trying to say this.

01:00:05.000 When you have the Trump administration, it is multifaceted like you said.

01:00:08.000 So if we actually wanted to fix the problems in our country, one of the things we could do is limit corporate buyout of single-family dwellings and homes, which then could maybe fix a little bit of the housing crisis.

01:00:19.000 When you look at the fact that right now the cost of living has gone up exponentially, it is no longer even in the dream.

01:00:26.000 There's no American dream to own a home.

01:00:28.000 People have given up on that entirely.

01:00:29.000 And then you say, "Hey, look." I know you can't buy a home.

01:00:32.000 I know that there's a, you know, you can't afford a family because it's so expensive to live now.

01:00:37.000 And so the reason why you don't have any drive and desire to add to the American system is because you're lazy or you're entitled to Gen Z and millennials.

01:00:45.000 It's like, well, you said they're lazy and entitled.

01:00:48.000 I'm saying they're not lazy and entitled.

01:00:49.000 And then you added a whole bunch of things I never said.

01:00:50.000 No, I'm saying they're disillusioned because you're stripping away the American gnosis, the way of living what our parents knew was an opportunity and an ability to acquire.

01:01:00.000 So you have every generation being able to have a family, to have purpose, to have kids, to own a home, to have a stake in the country becomes it's a diminishing return and it's less and less likely.

01:01:10.000 So people don't know what to do.

01:01:11.000 And then you say the only way to actually make enough money is.

01:01:27.000 There's not a lot of natural ways to make enough money to live here.

01:01:27.000 Excuses.

01:01:29.000 Let me tell you about the American founding fathers who got on a boat, and then 20% of them died on the boat, and they landed on a barren shore with no food or water, and then starved to death.

01:01:38.000 So, this is my issue.

01:01:40.000 The modern view of the world.

01:01:43.000 From young people is that I should be able to have all of these things.

01:01:47.000 They should be normal for me.

01:01:49.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

01:01:50.000 The people who came before us worked so that we would all have better lives, but there's no guarantee that's ever the case.

01:01:55.000 So I implore each and every person who thinks they're not lazy to strip off all your clothes and go stand in the middle of the woods and talk about starting from nothing.

01:02:01.000 We live in a country of extreme wealth and opportunity.

01:02:04.000 And the idea that I can't figure it out is is.

01:02:07.000 Sure, you can call it disillusionment.

01:02:08.000 I call it the...

01:02:17.000 I'm saying there is a large portion of Gen Z and millennials who literally don't want to do any job. 0.92

01:02:23.000 They're neats.

01:02:24.000 They live at home.

01:02:25.000 Their parents pay their bills.

01:02:26.000 They're playing video games all day.

01:02:28.000 and there's fem cells now. 1.00

01:02:29.000 And the only fans women What? 0.57

01:02:33.000 Femcels? 0.90

01:02:33.000 You're not familiar with them cells? 0.90

01:02:34.000 Well, I know what that is, but who's...

01:02:38.000 That there are women who are isolating themselves and living by themselves in their parents' houses? 1.00

01:02:43.000 It's called feminism. 1.00

01:02:45.000 Does that not imply that it's women who aren't able to get sex? 0.98

01:02:51.000 I don't know if that's the exact way you would break down femcel because there's a dynamic between men and women in terms of sex. 0.77

01:02:57.000 But there are young women who are locking themselves in their rooms, not going out, not doing anything.

01:03:03.000 It's happening too.

01:03:04.000 And it's happening more to men because women have the ability to go to older men and get these things.

01:03:09.000 My point is, we have a generation of people, even as you're describing it, this idea that I'm owed a house.

01:03:15.000 Well, to be fair, our ancestors did build a nation so that we would be able to have these houses.

01:03:20.000 But I also think sometimes empires crumble, and there were bad stewards of this nation, particularly in the Democrats, but largely with the Uniparty and the Republicans, that have created a circumstance where everything is trashed right now.

01:03:32.000 What's the answer? 0.91

01:03:33.000 The answer is, be a man and grind your fingers to the bone and realize what it means when life sucks.

01:03:38.000 Instead of, I'm not gonna work at all, I'm gonna stay at home and play video games all day, my parents are gonna pay my bills.

01:03:43.000 I'm not!

01:03:43.000 I don't think I'm advocating for them to stay home and be a femcel or incel or whatever, but the point is that they shouldn't have to compete with Indians for jobs.

01:03:52.000 We shouldn't have to compete.

01:03:54.000 Like, there's plenty of smart, talented young men who want to work hard.

01:03:56.000 Who's arguing this?

01:03:57.000 What are you talking about?

01:03:58.000 That's what H-1B visas are!

01:04:00.000 So, we completely agree the H-1B system is broken.

01:04:03.000 What are you talking about?

01:04:04.000 Did you not say that you're in support of it to some extent and you're just saying the system is broken but it shouldn't even exist at all?

01:04:09.000 I don't think you understand what H-1B is.

01:04:11.000 I think you're talking about the modern colloquial broken immigration system and interpreting any kind of brain-drained immigration as our broken immigration system.

01:04:20.000 I'm arguing for a policy function and you're angry about a current state of affairs.

01:04:26.000 We agree on that.

01:04:27.000 There's no arguing.

01:04:28.000 Tim, wouldn't the brain drain immigration be O-1 visas, not H-1B visas, because those are for extraordinary talent?

01:04:37.000 Extraordinary talent is the high end.

01:04:39.000 H-1B is supposed to be mid to high end.

01:04:41.000 And my point is, we want to take away the economic capabilities of any other nation that we can.

01:04:48.000 The problem is, in this country, they— Why would we want to import people who are not like us, who don't share our culture, because they can pass a math test? 0.99

01:04:57.000 Who said that?

01:04:58.000 You said we want to brain drain them. 0.85

01:04:59.000 We want their people. 0.52

01:05:00.000 We don't want to.

01:05:01.000 Why would we want to just take people?

01:05:03.000 I don't even know what you're arguing.

01:05:05.000 My argument is I'm saying.

01:05:06.000 Who said anything about people who don't like our culture?

01:05:08.000 These people that we're bringing, these brain draining countries like India, they have a caste system. 1.00

01:05:12.000 This is not our culture.

01:05:13.000 This is an Eastern nation.

01:05:14.000 Let me give a shout out to my friend Zuby.

01:05:15.000 Do you like Zuby?

01:05:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:16.000 Does he agree with our culture?

01:05:18.000 Isn't he British? 0.94

01:05:19.000 He's Nigerian.

01:05:20.000 Well, I mean, like, yes, ethnically Nigerian, but isn't he like... 0.96

01:05:23.000 He hates American culture. 0.68

01:05:23.000 My point is... 0.68

01:05:25.000 Send them back.

01:05:27.000 I don't think so.

01:05:28.000 No.

01:05:28.000 Okay.

01:05:28.000 My point is, there are people from other countries who like America, who believe in the American dream and the American culture, and the point is, we don't want to import 20 million people.

01:05:39.000 We want to import 10,000.

01:05:41.000 And we want to take the best of the best of everywhere else and absorb that into our wealth and luxury.

01:05:45.000 And you guys seem to be saying...

01:05:51.000 Well, I'm saying that's a post-1965 mentality.

01:05:54.000 That's what's kind of stripping away our culture, our identity.

01:05:57.000 These people don't even come here with the American dream in mind per se.

01:05:59.000 What's stripping away our culture is importing 20 million people in four years. 1.00

01:06:03.000 Well that too, but also what I'm trying to say is I think where we're disagreeing is that I'm saying we need to be attacking the system, not the generation.

01:06:14.000 You don't agree on that.

01:06:15.000 But I'm saying it's a different level of fault.

01:06:18.000 I'm saying we, you know, you have like Congresswoman, I'm sure you disagree with this, you know, bringing their babies, like Anna Paulina Luna, these people saying, the key thing to helping the fertility crisis is being allowed to bring our babies on the congressional floor.

01:06:31.000 And you're going, okay, stop for a second.

01:06:34.000 The real reason why people are not having children is because of two main reasons.

01:06:40.000 Cost of living and loss of values, mainly due to feminism. 1.00

01:06:44.000 Like, women are not of the value today that men want to fight for them or to settle down.

01:06:49.000 And women aren't trying to have kids. 1.00

01:06:50.000 They're chasing careers.

01:06:51.000 This is an institutional ideology.

01:06:53.000 So what does the Trump administration do?

01:06:55.000 They fight anti-Semitism.

01:06:56.000 What's the solution?

01:06:57.000 Well, they fight anti-Semitism.

01:06:59.000 That's not the biggest issue on a college campus.

01:07:03.000 There's a 20-year-old guy right now.

01:07:05.000 He's out of weight.

01:07:06.000 He's overweight.

01:07:07.000 He has no job.

01:07:08.000 He lives in his parents' house.

01:07:09.000 What should he do right now?

01:07:11.000 What's your answer for him?

01:07:12.000 I will lose weight, first of all.

01:07:13.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:07:15.000 Why should he have to lose weight?

01:07:17.000 Because healthcare is expensive and you're going to limit the amount of side effects, comorbidities that you're going to develop if you're in better shape.

01:07:23.000 No, it's actually less work.

01:07:24.000 You just don't eat.

01:07:25.000 I'm saying...

01:07:26.000 You and I...

01:07:28.000 Well, this is what I'm trying to tell you. 1.00

01:07:29.000 You and I are coming from a dumb angle because we're one percenter media guys Bull fucking shit. 1.00

01:07:37.000 No, that's an excuse. 1.00

01:07:38.000 Very limited amount of people can make the kind of money, and you make way more money than me, and everyone knows that.

01:07:48.000 But the pot at the bottom is low.

01:07:50.000 Communism.

01:07:51.000 The fact that natural means, no, the fact that right now you're saying that the most natural means for the majority of people to earn a decent living, most people are not trying to get wealth, they're just trying to survive.

01:08:00.000 So the cost of living is going up, wages are going up, You have no solution.

01:08:05.000 I do have a solution.

01:08:07.000 I'm saying we do a complete and immediate halt to legal immigration, both skilled and unskilled. 1.00

01:08:12.000 That's not a solution.

01:08:13.000 Why is it not a solution?

01:08:15.000 Because a 20-year-old Gen Zer is not going to go to D.C. and bang a gavel and make that happen.

01:08:19.000 So what does an entire generation right now, when you are looking in the eyes of a 35-year-old millennial who's like, I can't afford a house, what do you tell him to do right now?

01:08:30.000 Go to Congress, bang the gavel, and ban immigration. 0.96

01:08:33.000 He's going to say, huh?

01:08:35.000 There's a system at play that is broken.

01:08:36.000 We agree on the macro scale.

01:08:38.000 We have a problem with immigration, and there's too much low-scale immigration coming in this country. 0.54

01:08:42.000 H-1B doesn't even make sense anymore.

01:08:44.000 It's completely exploited.

01:08:46.000 What do we do?

01:08:47.000 Okay, first thing is, get a family?

01:09:07.000 It's going to be work harder than you've ever had to work, work harder than your parents, work harder than your grandparents, and that's the answer.

01:09:14.000 And I'll quote Andrew Tate.

01:09:15.000 The rocket ship going to the moon doesn't stop halfway to take a break.

01:09:18.000 It keeps going until it burns out and lands.

01:09:21.000 I would say exit the system.

01:09:22.000 This is so boomer-coded.

01:09:24.000 No, I would just say exit the system.

01:09:26.000 So I'm going to point out this excuse.

01:09:29.000 It's not an excuse.

01:09:30.000 I didn't make an excuse.

01:09:32.000 You said I chose a career that makes a lot of money.

01:09:35.000 Bro, you know what my career was?

01:09:38.000 Homelessness.

01:09:39.000 So what did I do?

01:09:40.000 I went out and so I had a job at an airline making $10 an hour and when I couldn't afford to pay my rent and I couldn't afford to buy shoes and my car got repossessed, the little money I had, I bought a $200 guitar and I went and I busked in the subway of Chicago and I made $7 an hour doing that.

01:09:55.000 Every day I'd put the money in my bank account and save it up.

01:09:57.000 Eventually I started making $30 an hour.

01:09:59.000 Then I figured out I could play in front of Wrigley Field.

01:10:01.000 This is me partially homeless.

01:10:03.000 Sometimes sleeping in parks.

01:10:05.000 And I get to hear every day from people who are like, you're so lucky.

01:10:08.000 It's because you're lucky that you have, if only I had the money, I can do it too.

01:10:12.000 When every story, not every story, but most stories is someone saying, let me put it this way.

01:10:17.000 I choose to work 16 hours a day with hours on the weekend, and I got to pay taxes because I choose to work more than most people.

01:10:23.000 Meanwhile, there are people who are like, I should only have to work four days a week.

01:10:26.000 And that's largely the younger generation advocating for the four-day workweek, and largely it is the younger generation that is socialist, not the boomers, not Gen X. It is millennials, and to a certain degree slightly less than half of Gen Z. So you broke free from the system.

01:10:39.000 You found an alternate job. 0.73

01:10:40.000 My point is saying, like, yes, as a black kid, why could you make more money?

01:10:44.000 Are you going to make more money as a software engineer or as an NBA player?

01:10:46.000 Well, yeah, probably as an NBA player, but the amount of availability to pay people well to be in the NBA is low.

01:10:51.000 So a country has to have what's called a middle class or at least Western standards.

01:10:55.000 We want to have a middle class.

01:10:56.000 It's obviously not common.

01:10:57.000 It hasn't been throughout all of history, but we built up this country with a middle class where we have an availability of a large swath of a job market in different industries where people could make money Nobody disagrees.

01:11:07.000 That is shrinking.

01:11:08.000 So you said, what is the solution?

01:11:10.000 I am telling you it's radical change, two things, literally preventing corporate buyout of single family homes and putting a halt on immigration until we can figure out what's going on, which also means deporting the illegals. 0.96

01:11:22.000 You're saying, is that possible?

01:11:24.000 What I'm trying to tell people is maybe Yes.

01:11:25.000 Maybe the Zionist, you know, big government, uniparty that runs our country isn't going to do that right now. 1.00

01:11:30.000 So what did you do?

01:11:31.000 You did what I did.

01:11:32.000 You left the system.

01:11:33.000 Like, I have a degree.

01:11:34.000 I used to do genetic engineering.

01:11:36.000 I studied biology.

01:11:36.000 I don't work, and I used to be a high school teacher.

01:11:38.000 I'm credentialed.

01:11:39.000 That's not a pathway to support a family.

01:11:41.000 What does that mean, leave the system?

01:11:42.000 You found an alternate niche job that has a very limited amount of resources, and you worked your way up.

01:11:48.000 When did I find that job?

01:11:50.000 I'm telling you, the system doesn't work.

01:11:51.000 When did I find that job?

01:11:52.000 You're working it right now.

01:11:53.000 You built that for yourself.

01:11:55.000 How did I make money before doing this?

01:11:56.000 Probably like me, lots of different jobs.

01:11:58.000 You probably did different things.

01:11:59.000 Journalism, you probably made money working random jobs.

01:12:02.000 I'm saying you're smart.

01:12:03.000 I work for ABC News.

01:12:04.000 I'm saying you're smart.

01:12:05.000 You went and built something.

01:12:06.000 I'm saying not everyone can do that.

01:12:08.000 Not everyone knows how to do that.

01:12:10.000 You might be smarter than most people.

01:12:11.000 And in a country, I'm saying the rich aren't doing poor in this country.

01:12:14.000 people who are smart, there's no one's argument that there's a lack of entrepreneurship availability, that there aren't grants and investors to be able to be an extremely intelligent person and build something great.

01:12:25.000 The reality is a lot of Most people aren't built that way.

01:12:28.000 Most people are just followers.

01:12:29.000 And they shouldn't have to live in their parents' basement forever because they can't afford a home.

01:12:35.000 So how do they get out of their parents' basement?

01:12:37.000 Okay, but the point is, if every single Gen Z Zoomer decided to pull themselves up by their bootstraps tomorrow and grind super hard, it wouldn't matter. 0.97

01:12:47.000 Sounds like Democrat stuff.

01:12:48.000 No, it wouldn't matter if every single one did that.

01:12:52.000 They still wouldn't be able to buy a home and get a job because that's only available to a select amount of people at this point.

01:12:59.000 Yeah, this is like Occupy Wall Street liberal rhetoric.

01:13:01.000 No, this isn't because my grandfather was a mechanic.

01:13:04.000 No, it's not.

01:13:06.000 My grandfather was a mechanic for Boeing.

01:13:09.000 He's not college educated.

01:13:10.000 He owns multiple homes.

01:13:12.000 He just died, rest in peace.

01:13:13.000 Multiple homes in Los Angeles.

01:13:15.000 Now, I was doing some math and looking at the minimum wage at the time that he was working.

01:13:26.000 When you're saying, like, what do we do?

01:13:28.000 I'm saying, yeah, that is a tough question, Tim.

01:13:30.000 It is a tough question when I tell someone, no matter how hard you work in the system, if you're an average intelligence guy with a normal IQ, not only are there not a lot of jobs available in manufacturing and fields to actually pay you what you want, but these fields are going down.

01:13:41.000 Either their wages are actually, they're offering less to begin with, or they're not giving raises because the cost of doing business is going up and you can get less.

01:13:49.000 What does a person do?

01:13:51.000 I'm telling you.

01:13:51.000 You're talking about a systemic issue.

01:13:53.000 I'm telling you, that's the tough part.

01:13:55.000 I would tell people, exit the system.

01:13:57.000 You have to realize right now the system is so broken, you're going to have to find an alternate way.

01:14:01.000 How do you do it?

01:14:01.000 If you want, well, you've got to do it.

01:14:03.000 You've got to be an entrepreneur.

01:14:04.000 You've got to start your own business.

01:14:04.000 That sounds like a lot of work.

01:14:05.000 But a lot of these people are just staying in their parents' houses.

01:14:07.000 I'm saying not everyone can do it.

01:14:08.000 It's a little bit of luck.

01:14:10.000 I've luckily met some people that have given me a lot of money.

01:14:13.000 So let me ask you a question.

01:14:15.000 You're saying that it is a fact we have a lot of needs, right?

01:14:19.000 Sure.

01:14:20.000 It is largely accepted that young men especially are not working, not in education or training, and they're living with their parents.

01:14:28.000 Okay.

01:14:29.000 What is the thing they can do right now to improve the situation?

01:14:32.000 You say exit the system.

01:14:34.000 Correct.

01:14:34.000 Is it hard to exit the system?

01:14:37.000 Yes.

01:14:38.000 Why don't they do it?

01:14:40.000 They don't do it because right now where the money is, the niches of the money are in, you can develop products or you can get into media.

01:14:46.000 And I think they are doing it, which is why there's a staggering amount of women that are on OnlyFans making $2 for their butthole picks. 1.00

01:14:52.000 But the needs who aren't in education, training, or employment.

01:14:55.000 That's a good question.

01:14:56.000 I don't think there's a lot of hope for them.

01:14:57.000 I don't think there's a lot of opportunity.

01:14:59.000 So we're in agreement that people who are living with their parents, not being trained, not being educated, not working, and also not even trying to access the system, do you think it's fair to call them lazy?

01:15:09.000 I don't think they are lazy.

01:15:13.000 I think disillusionment and lack of opportunity can lead to apathy, which can be interpreted as lazy.

01:15:18.000 I think that they are apathetic because the system they can tell.

01:15:20.000 It's like, what do I do?

01:15:22.000 It's like, so it's like I can't even get married.

01:15:23.000 So then what's the drive in a man? 0.63

01:15:25.000 If a man doesn't even see marriage and children in his future, like they say married men make more.

01:15:29.000 When you have children, you make more.

01:15:30.000 That's true.

01:15:30.000 When I found out my wife was pregnant, I was like...

01:15:35.000 I just started working my ass off, stopped going out on the weekends.

01:15:38.000 I figured it out, right?

01:15:39.000 And yeah, and I understand that that's possible in my field of work.

01:15:42.000 Most people cannot find $20,000 when you're in a linear system of top-down, maybe get a 1% raise per year, maybe a 3% raise.

01:15:50.000 I am saying, yes, I am looking for the Trump administration to stop bringing women on saying, hey, the idea that we're going to fix things is to allow more How about we do things in

01:16:20.000 our government, like I said, where we limit corporations from bringing in these foreign workers that drive down wages? 1.00

01:16:25.000 Totally.

01:16:25.000 It's amazing.

01:16:26.000 Yeah.

01:16:27.000 I'm saying it's a systemic problem.

01:16:28.000 Maybe the young people who are disillusioned might form a political block where in 10 or 20 years we can implement those changes.

01:16:35.000 I think they will.

01:16:35.000 Over 10 or 20 years.

01:16:36.000 I think they will.

01:16:37.000 For the time being, my point is, there is a reality as to why I think people like Andrew Tate and for a while, but not anymore, Jordan Peterson, was...

01:16:47.000 Unfortunately.

01:16:47.000 Exactly.

01:16:48.000 What was Jordan Peterson telling young men to do?

01:16:51.000 Find the heaviest thing you can and carry it.

01:16:53.000 Literally saying just work hard for no reason was one of the tenets of his 12 steps for life or whatever.

01:16:58.000 And my point is, much like why Andrew Tate has built a large following is because he's literally telling men to stop being lazy. 0.97

01:17:06.000 He literally puts out videos all the time where he's like, if you are sitting down and if you are sitting down waiting for something to happen, you're a loser. 0.96

01:17:15.000 And he insults guys. 1.00

01:17:16.000 He says, you're a loser. 1.00

01:17:17.000 We don't have anything to do with you. 1.00

01:17:18.000 But if you're a guy who wants to succeed, make a difference, and be somebody, and be the king, and be on the top, get off your ass right now. 1.00

01:17:26.000 I agree. 0.99

01:17:26.000 Listen, I'm going to say this, though. 0.99

01:17:28.000 I'm not going to disagree with you.

01:17:29.000 I said there needs to be more content, positive content, especially telling young white men or just straight men or young men in general that, like, you can thrive.

01:17:36.000 Even if things are anti-white, I put out a tweet that went really viral where I said there is a portion of particularly young white guys who are rightfully angry.

01:17:43.000 You see this anti-white ideology.

01:17:45.000 You know, maybe they're not white, but you see this real anti-American, anti-male sentiment. 0.95

01:17:49.000 Everything's misogynistic, chauvinist. 0.72

01:17:51.000 Real masculinity is toxic, right, what they say.

01:17:53.000 And I go, look, listen, I'm a kid.

01:17:57.000 I'm from Los Angeles.

01:17:58.000 I sound like I was drinking the atrazine, you know, my entire life, right?

01:18:01.000 This is what happens in LA.

01:18:03.000 It's true.

01:18:04.000 So I'm a frog, right?

01:18:06.000 And Alex is correct.

01:18:07.000 There is a warfare on our bodies.

01:18:09.000 But I'll give you real advice.

01:18:10.000 I'm going to tell people this.

01:18:11.000 You know what I did?

01:18:11.000 You know what you should do?

01:18:12.000 If you have the money, go get a blood sample.

01:18:16.000 Go check your testosterone and your free testosterone. 0.70

01:18:18.000 Get a real number on...

01:18:26.000 Maybe you don't have a lack of drive.

01:18:28.000 Maybe the food you've been eating, the chemicals in our water, in our system, have lowered your testosterone and you don't have drive.

01:18:34.000 Go work on your testosterone.

01:18:36.000 I tell people, supplement and change your lifestyle.

01:18:38.000 Start with 20 push-ups today.

01:18:39.000 And I go, you know, I thought, bought into the lie for a little bit.

01:18:43.000 Like, you know, I was in the system.

01:18:44.000 I told people, like...

01:18:46.000 There was a lot of, like, racial discrimination.

01:18:48.000 There was a lot of hatred during Trump's first era.

01:18:50.000 Like, oh, they didn't want Trump supporters working in L.A. in any of the jobs.

01:18:53.000 I get it.

01:18:54.000 I found a way out.

01:18:55.000 I am saying that, yeah, that is really tough, and it sucks to tell men the really only way to be a king and to get out is to do something grandiose, which is kind of sad about Tate.

01:19:04.000 It's like, well, how did Tate make his money?

01:19:11.000 Same with Portnoy or any of these guys.

01:19:13.000 I think he was actually talking dirty to men as well.

01:19:16.000 He made money doing that.

01:19:18.000 Base.

01:19:18.000 I have no idea what he was doing.

01:19:20.000 When you run the only...

01:19:29.000 They're from India, and Americans should be doing them. 1.00

01:19:35.000 It's probably true.

01:19:35.000 They probably were Indians.

01:19:36.000 It's probably like Fiverr.

01:19:37.000 It's like, I'm looking for someone to sext people.

01:19:40.000 Did you see that they have this AI technology that will take away an accent now?

01:19:44.000 Oh, no.

01:19:44.000 Yeah, they rolled out a thing where on the phone...

01:19:49.000 Yeah, it was like an Indian guy, and he was talking like this, and then he pressed the button, and then he was talking like this. 0.99

01:19:55.000 I saw that.

01:19:55.000 And it just took his voice and removed the accent from it and then made his voice sound like North American Diet.

01:20:01.000 It's a lie worse than makeup on women. 0.94

01:20:03.000 Is there an app that can take away their smell, too?

01:20:05.000 Because I feel like that would fix race relations with a lot of these people.

01:20:08.000 It's the BO, right?

01:20:09.000 That a lot of these people have.

01:20:10.000 I want to jump to this next story that I'm really excited for, but my point is, Democrats have gutted this country's—Gen Z has been screwed over completely.

01:20:23.000 They're giving away properties to illegal immigrants. 0.99

01:20:25.000 They're giving homes to fake asylum seekers. 0.96

01:20:28.000 They're giving government benefits to non-citizens and telling Gen Z good luck, goodbye. 0.99

01:20:32.000 While all of that is true, there is no short-term solution to the fertility crisis and to the mass migration crisis created by the Democrats that will alleviate the tension on millennials and Gen Z. Millennials are, I believe, leaning slightly towards socialist.

01:20:47.000 We'll call it just left in general.

01:20:49.000 You're a millennial, right?

01:20:50.000 Yes.

01:20:50.000 I'd say millennials lean left for sure.

01:20:52.000 Millennials, 100%. 1.00

01:20:53.000 Gen Z, slightly majority is leaning right.

01:20:56.000 And it's actually picked up quite a bit with more faith in Jesus and men particularly shifting towards Trump.

01:21:02.000 And the lower half of Gen Z too is like way more right. 0.98

01:21:05.000 They're either like communist or fascist.

01:21:06.000 It's kind of scary.

01:21:07.000 Gen Z women still go the other way. 1.00

01:21:09.000 So 70% of millennial women are left. 0.66

01:21:13.000 30% are right.

01:21:14.000 For Gen Z, it's like 55-45 are left. 0.96

01:21:17.000 And then Gen Z men are 55 right, 45 left. 0.88

01:21:20.000 So that polarization is there, but it's kind of skewing more towards the right nowadays.

01:21:25.000 The principal point I'm making is not that every single Gen Z is lazy or that every single millennial is lazy, because obviously there are smart, wealthy millionaire millennials and also millennials working construction who do 80 hours a week and are working a modest living.

01:21:37.000 I'm saying that there is a large, large portion.

01:21:40.000 Of lazy younger people who think the government should be paying their bills. 0.91

01:21:45.000 And they're called Democrats and they're called Democratic Socialists and they're called Socialists.

01:21:51.000 And they are at like the younger block of the Democratic Party.

01:21:55.000 These are not people who believe in merit and closed borders.

01:21:58.000 These are people who are saying open the borders, bring all these people in and then make them do work so we can get paid from their taxes. 0.89

01:22:04.000 But let's jump to this next story because it's fun.

01:22:06.000 We got this from the National Post.

01:22:08.000 Welcome to Canada, my friends.

01:22:10.000 The King's land acknowledgement undermined his own authority.

01:22:14.000 The throne speech, which was supposed to be a subtle message of buzz-off to the U.S., put Canadian sovereignty into question.

01:22:20.000 I completely agree.

01:22:21.000 I actually don't care to read about his silly op-ed other than he made the point.

01:22:26.000 But I think we have a link to the actual speech given by the – oh, we don't.

01:22:30.000 Let me pull up the King Charles land acknowledgment and let me see if – do we have it right here?

01:22:36.000 I don't want to play a short.

01:22:51.000 This land acknowledgement is a recognition of shared history as a nation.

01:22:58.000 While continuing to deepen my own understanding, it is my great hope that in each of your communities and collectively as a country, a path is found toward truth and reconciliation in both word and deed.

01:23:15.000 King Charles, who is the King of Canada, just said that they were on unceded territory of the Algonquin people.

01:23:23.000 Let me clarify.

01:23:23.000 That is the king saying they are illegitimately occupying foreign land.

01:23:28.000 I believe that Donald Trump should now go to the Anashebeg and Algonquin people and offer them $10 billion for all of Canada. 0.94

01:23:36.000 Silly names. 0.88

01:23:37.000 I don't think it costs that much. 0.98

01:23:39.000 Yeah.

01:23:39.000 Like $3 billion.

01:23:41.000 Maybe.

01:23:42.000 How about let's go back to the old days and offer them some shells and take the island.

01:23:46.000 A little handful of beads.

01:23:47.000 Yeah, some beads.

01:23:49.000 No, you know what's funny is no one understands that.

01:23:53.000 In these crown countries, governments are still technically under the king, right?

01:23:57.000 I mean, if I have that right, even though they're independent democracies, the king could still come in and unseat MPs.

01:24:04.000 That's my understanding.

01:24:05.000 I know in Australia, as far back as even the 70s, I think, the Queen had to come in and remove one of their MPs.

01:24:11.000 And so when the King says that... 1.00

01:24:18.000 It's funny when, like, a celebrity comes on, you know, I think it was the Academy Awards, the last one, and they started out with, like, this is the Mwunga Boonga Ooga Booga tribe, and we acknowledge them, and you're like, ah, you know, you stupid celebrity. 1.00

01:24:32.000 But the king, I think a lot of the conspiracies about him are probably true. 0.98

01:24:36.000 I think this guy's blackmailed.

01:24:42.000 Do you know about that one, too?

01:24:43.000 That he might have converted to Islam?

01:24:44.000 Wait a second.

01:24:45.000 Yeah, did you hear about that?

01:24:45.000 I don't believe it.

01:24:46.000 I didn't say I believe it.

01:24:49.000 I've seen pretty convincing arguments that he converted to Islam.

01:24:53.000 But I do bring this up.

01:24:55.000 He's not helping his case from the conspirators because when you do stuff like this and you're not senile like Joe Biden, it makes me wonder if this is genuinely like an intentional undermining of British sovereignty and Western imperialism.

01:25:09.000 I don't think it could be anything else.

01:25:10.000 It's got to be intentional.

01:25:11.000 I would...

01:25:12.000 Like, you would think that...

01:25:15.000 Especially, it's not like, you know, he's a teenager.

01:25:17.000 His mother was the queen for 70 years or something like that.

01:25:22.000 He is very familiar with all of the protocol that a king, you know, has to go through.

01:25:29.000 So this seems like, it seems ridiculous that he would do this because he should have known.

01:25:35.000 I think Trump needs to publicly—not that I think Trump would actually try and claim Canada, but I think Trump should post a truth right now saying that the king has acknowledged his illegitimate claims over Canada, and we no longer recognize the Canadian government as legitimate by the king's own words.

01:25:53.000 It would be funny— I'd do it if I was president.

01:25:55.000 And I wouldn't put it past Trump, but like— Can we talk about the seriousness of this, though?

01:26:00.000 This needs to stop.

01:26:01.000 This land acknowledgement stuff, the welcome to country in Australia, New Zealand, what the hell is this?

01:26:07.000 I completely disagree.

01:26:09.000 This is fantastic because it creates one of two scenarios.

01:26:12.000 One is that Canada's government is illegitimate, for which we need only negotiate with the Algonquin and Anishibag people, or the left must now recognize that conquerors have the claim to a land.

01:26:27.000 Yeah, well, when do you get to own the land?

01:26:28.000 How long do you have to be there?

01:26:29.000 How many wars did you have to win?

01:26:31.000 Who cares?

01:26:31.000 My point is, if the left says, oh, he didn't give the land up, I would respond with, I completely agree.

01:26:37.000 When we conquer land, it's ours.

01:26:39.000 And if they go, no, no, it is the Anishibag people. 1.00

01:26:41.000 It's like, okay, Donald Trump should negotiate with them instead, and Canada's government's illegitimate.

01:26:45.000 They might actually say yes to that.

01:26:47.000 You know, I love the land acknowledgement stuff for one reason.

01:26:49.000 We ain't doing it in the United States right now.

01:26:51.000 And so long as we don't, I could give a damn if Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the UK are doing whatever.

01:26:57.000 I don't know what the UK is going to do.

01:26:59.000 Who is there before the current government?

01:27:02.000 I don't know.

01:27:03.000 According to the BBC, black people, I don't know if you saw the Ancient Brits documentary. 0.98

01:27:09.000 They were like, it was like Zuby's ancestors apparently were the original founders, the Nigerians.

01:27:14.000 No, but okay.

01:27:15.000 But this is where I think a little personally, this breaks my heart, is like, I want to see a strong West.

01:27:21.000 Like, I want to see a unified front. 0.94

01:27:23.000 Not this NATO bullshit like, oh, we got to stand with Ukraine, FAFO stuff. 0.89

01:27:27.000 Like a genuine like – these are our – Like white people are only 7% approximately of the global population. 0.97

01:27:39.000 We exported our culture to the entire world.

01:27:42.000 I mean, you go to China and Western technology, the skyscraper, is at the precipice of even what they're building today to become strong themselves.

01:27:51.000 Even the way they've opened up to our capitalist ideas and free trade to become a stronger nation.

01:27:55.000 And then they're using our ideas to become stronger.

01:27:57.000 And then we're apologizing to people that sound like...

01:28:04.000 I mean, really?

01:28:05.000 Doesn't it kind of break your heart a little bit seeing Western countries collapse into this frail, apologetic weakness?

01:28:12.000 Doesn't this make us all lose in the West?

01:28:15.000 As long as, in the end, we conquer the Commonwealth nations, I'm fine with it.

01:28:19.000 I don't think we would do that.

01:28:21.000 Donald Trump right now is talking about Canada becoming the 51st state.

01:28:25.000 And if the end result of their land acknowledgement, weird, woke, we recognize the sins of our ways, if that resulted in Trump saying, okay, your country's ours now, good luck, I'm like, all right.

01:28:37.000 Or for us, these people who don't believe in conquest and think it never existed, it's a silly notion that we have to give the land to whoever was there a long time ago because everybody just claims they were there first.

01:28:47.000 And then no one actually knows who was there first, and then you fight over it.

01:28:49.000 So we have a government.

01:28:51.000 Canada has a government.

01:28:53.000 No, Canada's not going to abdicate control of the land to the Algonquin people, right?

01:28:58.000 But my point is, let them undermine their own sovereignty.

01:29:00.000 That's their own opinion, people writing this.

01:29:02.000 And then Trump can come out and use that claim against them.

01:29:05.000 If this persists and those nations collapse, then the strong must survive.

01:29:10.000 I just don't think this is going to happen.

01:29:17.000 They've got Tarsay on Canada.

01:29:19.000 Okay.

01:29:19.000 I mean, first of all, we get access to the Northwest Passage in its entirety if we control Canada.

01:29:24.000 But they also have the tar sands, which is oil for us.

01:29:26.000 Not that we need all their oil, but hey, that's good oil.

01:29:29.000 Also, land is generally just good.

01:29:33.000 There's resources there.

01:29:35.000 I think they have a certain degree of rare earth minerals in the north.

01:29:39.000 We could add more caribou to our diet, which right now is largely in Alaska.

01:29:43.000 Who doesn't want free land?

01:29:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:46.000 The tar sands is the easy one.

01:29:47.000 And my point ultimately is, for what reason should I as an American care that Australia, Canada, and New Zealand are gutting themselves with crackpot ideology and destroying their way of life?

01:30:00.000 It just means that for us in the United States, if Canada were to break down because of these absurdities, it'll make it easier for us to get their stuff.

01:30:09.000 Like, it'll make it cheaper to trade with them.

01:30:11.000 I'll put it that way.

01:30:12.000 Do you think China is going to also take advantage of these weaknesses? 0.54

01:30:15.000 Look at Australia, too.

01:30:17.000 They've been and they are.

01:30:18.000 China is the biggest spender of foreign policy lobbying in the United States.

01:30:21.000 I was in El Salvador.

01:30:23.000 I went down there to go try to understand how fascism saved that country.

01:30:27.000 It's a very unique position.

01:30:29.000 I was with some government officials and one thing I noticed when touring some sites was that they're building a new stadium in San Salvador.

01:30:35.000 And it literally says like a social project of the Chinese Republic.

01:30:44.000 He's like, yeah, China's putting billions of dollars into El Salvador because why?

01:30:48.000 They want to control the port down there, apparently.

01:30:49.000 They want access—I don't know if it's trade or military.

01:30:51.000 They're putting a bunch of money into Central America.

01:30:54.000 And so about half the social projects—I was talking to a government official—are direct competition from the actual Chinese communist government.

01:31:01.000 And so to me, like, you know— When you had a destabilized country like that, right now when it's stabilizing, you do have competition between the West and the East trying to gain control of this newfound government that's, you know, some people question whether or not what he's doing is democratic, but it worked, right?

01:31:14.000 As he said, like, should we should we give up the freedom of six million for just like 60,000?

01:31:19.000 You know, basically take away some human rights to save the entire population.

01:31:22.000 My point is, is like, I haven't seen.

01:31:29.000 And maybe it's just because I'm a little bit of an identitarian myself.

01:31:31.000 I'm a Western identitarian.

01:31:32.000 I love the idea that I can go from country to country.

01:31:35.000 You kind of don't feel like you left the United States.

01:31:37.000 There is a lot of Western and American dominance in these countries.

01:31:39.000 But like seeing the downfall of Canada in the last 15 years, seeing even just the Canadian dollar collapse, the Australian dollar collapse, to see the fact that like, you know, Did you see that recent video of Niagara Falls where they said that basically tourism revenue is down but visits are up?

01:31:59.000 And it's because they said it's day visitors from Brampton that are visiting Niagara Falls.

01:32:03.000 It looks like you're in Punjab.

01:32:04.000 You see the video.

01:32:05.000 It's crazy.

01:32:05.000 There's not a single Western person there.

01:32:08.000 And so it's like when you see the fact, it's like there's real consequences of weakening these countries that I don't think we've realized yet.

01:32:14.000 And I'm like, I don't know.

01:32:16.000 I don't think that the America benefits from any other Western nation being weaker, especially on the front.

01:32:22.000 Let me ask you something.

01:32:23.000 What was the racial demographic of these countries before this area looked like Punjab?

01:32:30.000 What was the racial makeup of it?

01:32:31.000 Almost entirely white.

01:32:33.000 Yeah, like Canada up until like, what, 20, 20 years ago?

01:32:35.000 So how did it end up that it's not anymore?

01:32:38.000 Immigration.

01:32:39.000 Trudeau changed the immigration.

01:32:41.000 He let in all these temporary visa holders and then applied for residency.

01:32:44.000 What's Trudeau's ethnic background?

01:32:47.000 Cuban.

01:32:50.000 It's alleged.

01:32:52.000 What's his ethnicity?

01:32:54.000 I think Cuban.

01:32:56.000 Probably Anglo. 0.99

01:32:58.000 I genuinely think he's Cuban.

01:33:00.000 And Cubans are what? 0.98

01:33:01.000 The Cubans you're referring to are Spaniards?

01:33:02.000 So they're European? 0.82

01:33:04.000 He's white.

01:33:06.000 Justin Trudeau's a white man. 0.80

01:33:08.000 The Democrats are white people.

01:33:10.000 All of these Commonwealth nations were largely run by white people, and in the studies that we've pulled up, the one ethnic group with an out-group preference based on race are white liberals.

01:33:20.000 This is true.

01:33:21.000 So the funny thing is, when I hear this talk about, like, I certainly get why people are upset that, you know, there was a country, it was colonized, it was conquered, whatever you want to call it.

01:33:32.000 I mean, I blame white people. 0.65

01:33:35.000 Canada was a country largely of white people. 0.74

01:33:38.000 Or maybe it's our government stopped caring what we think.

01:33:42.000 Like when Theo Vaughn said, it seems like no matter what we want, our government does what it wants.

01:33:45.000 Yeah, people don't vote for mass immigration.

01:33:47.000 Yeah, like when you poll these countries, they didn't want it.

01:33:49.000 Why doesn't it happen in China?

01:33:52.000 Why doesn't it happen in China?

01:33:54.000 Because the Chinese government actually wants a good sovereign nation.

01:33:58.000 And what ethnic background runs the Chinese government?

01:34:00.000 Han.

01:34:01.000 And why doesn't it happen in Japan?

01:34:03.000 Well, it might be, actually.

01:34:04.000 They're switching their immigration policies.

01:34:06.000 Sure, but it hasn't.

01:34:07.000 And it's funny because in Japan, racism is humor. 0.50

01:34:10.000 Not kidding.

01:34:11.000 So is it white people that control the government? 0.96

01:34:14.000 Just because he happens to be white. 0.70

01:34:16.000 Also, Trudeau's immigration minister was Jewish.

01:34:19.000 And the Mexican president is Jewish. 0.98

01:34:21.000 Do I blame Jews for the corruption there? 1.00

01:34:23.000 My point is, you have all of these white countries that are experiencing this problem. 0.88

01:34:29.000 Non-white countries are not, for the most part. 0.99

01:34:31.000 They didn't vote for it.

01:34:32.000 So, like, blaming the white populace for the collapse.

01:34:34.000 I disagree.

01:34:34.000 They didn't vote for it.

01:34:34.000 They don't want it.

01:34:35.000 Are you kidding?

01:34:35.000 Democrats, 70 million voted for Congress.

01:34:37.000 We didn't pull on...

01:34:41.000 And now the government is literally monitoring the party and trying to shut it down.

01:34:45.000 And what's the majority of government?

01:34:49.000 Bro, I don't understand why...

01:34:52.000 White countries did this to themselves. 0.98

01:34:55.000 I would say it has to do with an occupation.

01:34:57.000 There's something that happened after World War II where our governments are moving towards this liberal democracy, this universal democratic hegemony.

01:35:04.000 Look at Romania, what happened with the election.

01:35:05.000 So my question is, and this is before I want to— Liberal economic order.

01:35:09.000 Well, look, I'm actually going to defend Jewish people here for a second in saying this.

01:35:12.000 Do I think because Zelensky's Jewish that I'm going to blame Jews for the downfall of Ukraine?

01:35:18.000 I don't think that's fair to say just because he's ethnically or religiously—maybe he's atheist, but he's ethnically Jewish—that it's the Jews' fault.

01:35:24.000 I don't think that when you look at the actual polling, that's not, you know, USAID-backed polling, but actual polling.

01:35:30.000 It looks like it's not very popular, and they want the war to end.

01:35:32.000 Ukrainians want the war to end.

01:35:33.000 So we have a problem in Western countries post-World War II that our governments are enacting some sort of a UN agenda that is not representing what the people wanted.

01:35:42.000 Like Ireland, there's this city.

01:35:43.000 That was 98% Irish.

01:35:45.000 Someone could put the name in the chat.

01:35:46.000 And they had a vote of whether to put an immigrant center in the city.

01:35:49.000 The city voted like four-fifths.

01:35:52.000 It was like over 80% voted against it.

01:35:53.000 They built it anyways, arrested anybody who tried to stop it.

01:35:57.000 And now the city is like 37% white.

01:36:01.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.

01:36:02.000 They're probably white. 0.89

01:36:02.000 In the UK, every single day, I watch white cops arrest people for this stuff. 0.89

01:36:06.000 Yeah, I remember the German guy that was trying to arrest... 0.70

01:36:09.000 He got stabbed in the back.

01:36:10.000 He was trying to save the guy.

01:36:11.000 I have a real question for you.

01:36:12.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:36:13.000 I don't think we could blame white people because I think the government is just doing what they want. 0.82

01:36:23.000 You have to vote for who you have to vote for.

01:36:25.000 You get Trump or Biden.

01:36:26.000 It's not like there's 20 options and then all of a sudden there was this one really good option that was going to change things.

01:36:30.000 You have this sort of uniparty here.

01:36:32.000 And I think in every Western country, the governments are working against their people.

01:36:36.000 White people are not pro-mass immigration from these countries when pulled.

01:36:40.000 So how is it their fault?

01:36:40.000 If the government's rogue and not representing them, maybe our only fault is not absolving our own government.

01:36:45.000 We're not going to war with our government.

01:36:46.000 Half of this country supports the Democrats.

01:36:49.000 And maybe it's slightly less.

01:36:50.000 You've got 70 million people at least who want the Democratic Party.

01:36:54.000 That's fine, but there is all polls and stuff that say that the American people, like 70%, want to see deportation.

01:37:03.000 But I always say this.

01:37:05.000 Polls are great, especially in aggregate, but voting matters more.

01:37:08.000 So when Donald Trump wins the popular vote...

01:37:13.000 I'm like, don't know, don't care, because the only poll that matters is the polling box, and Trump won.

01:37:16.000 Well, and I think that there's—I think that that lends to the evidence that the American people do want to see deportations, because that was the thing that Donald— 49.8 percent?

01:37:26.000 Sure.

01:37:26.000 That was the thing that Donald Trump— My point is not that Kamala won the election, it's that 75 million voted for him.

01:37:31.000 I'm not saying that, but I'm saying that— If you've got these polls that say that 66% of Americans want to see deportations and Donald Trump wins the popular vote and the electoral college, that strongly indicates that most Americans do want to see deportations.

01:37:46.000 And what does that have to do with my point?

01:37:48.000 But look what's happening right now.

01:37:49.000 I mean, Trump's president and he's being blocked by these liberal judges because there's just so much rot in the system.

01:37:56.000 The way that I understood what you were saying is that it's not the American people that actually want to see deportations.

01:38:03.000 About half of this country are okay with open borders.

01:38:06.000 But they're not.

01:38:07.000 But they are.

01:38:08.000 They vote for it.

01:38:09.000 Okay, well, also keep in mind that prior to the election, Kamala reeled back a lot of her extreme rhetoric in order to appeal to the center. 0.99

01:38:19.000 And also, I just met one of these Democrats the other day just because someone voted Democrat.

01:38:26.000 That doesn't mean that their heart is in every last bullet point of the Democratic Party platform.

01:38:32.000 Sure.

01:38:32.000 I met this guy and he said that he's more socially conservative than almost all Republicans that I've met.

01:38:39.000 And he worked for, actually, the Biden administration and the Biden campaign and the following Kamala campaign.

01:38:48.000 He said there are some things I'm not allowed to say around these people.

01:38:52.000 And that and five bucks gets you a cup of coffee.

01:38:54.000 So when someone comes to me and says, look, I don't like the Democrats, but I voted for them, I'll be like, then you support open borders.

01:39:01.000 Now you can tell me you don't like open borders, but you do support it.

01:39:05.000 And if it's, I don't support it, like, you literally lent your support to the party of open borders who opened the borders.

01:39:11.000 What do you think support means?

01:39:13.000 It means you are literally, as an individual, holding up their system with your actions.

01:39:16.000 Well, if we are talking just ideologically.

01:39:19.000 The popular sentiment is behind mass deportation and immigration.

01:39:24.000 And that's what, 55%?

01:39:26.000 My point is, when we are saying that the people don't choose their government to do these things, that is not correct.

01:39:35.000 Donald Trump won.

01:39:36.000 Donald Trump is now deporting people.

01:39:38.000 Shut the border down.

01:39:39.000 I am very happy about what he's doing.

01:39:40.000 I spoke with Tom Homan today.

01:39:41.000 He was fantastic.

01:39:42.000 But these Democrats might try and publicly play to the center, but they will—I mean, look at when Bill Maher said, if a recession stops Donald Trump, then bring in a recession.

01:39:51.000 Literally saying, destroy the economy and ruin people's lives.

01:39:53.000 I hate Trump that much.

01:39:55.000 Now, you can go to Bill and talk about wokeness and all that stuff, and this was the issue with him.

01:39:59.000 He might say to your face, hey, man, I don't like any of those things.

01:40:03.000 But if a guy says, I'm not a bank robber, I hate bank robbing, and then he goes and robs a bank, he's a bank robber.

01:40:08.000 My point with all of this is— It is – we've looked at the data that shows white liberals are the only – so out of all ethnic groups, the only group with an outgroup preference to any degree is white people, specifically white liberals.

01:40:26.000 So when we look at all of these policies, it is an ideology among white people.

01:40:31.000 My point is simply that not all white people, of course, want this.

01:40:35.000 But when people talk about the ethnic makeup of this area or that area, I'm like, right. 1.00

01:40:40.000 If we're talking about ethnicity, it is something about white nations. 0.77

01:40:44.000 Take a look at the indigenous countries of white people, which is the various countries in Europe.

01:40:48.000 Where are they now?

01:40:50.000 Except for Poland, largely opened their borders to all these different ethnic immigrants of varying backgrounds, largely sub-Saharan African immigrants in Europe.

01:41:00.000 China didn't do that. 1.00

01:41:01.000 Japan didn't do that, even under occupation.

01:41:03.000 Yeah, the governments did that, but that doesn't mean that there's popular support.

01:41:06.000 And also, yeah, obviously there is an issue with white guilt, but why do you think that is?

01:41:10.000 I mean, people are born into this system where they're told from a young age that you're basically evil for being white. 0.81

01:41:15.000 And white people. 0.89

01:41:16.000 Yeah.

01:41:17.000 Agreed.

01:41:18.000 I have a real question for you, though.

01:41:20.000 So this is kind of a point of contention.

01:41:21.000 So I had a point of contention with Nick Fuentes.

01:41:23.000 He was telling people not to vote for Trump.

01:41:25.000 I was telling people to vote for Trump, okay?

01:41:27.000 And people were saying, oh, if you vote—well, he was telling people not to vote for Trump, and I was telling people to vote. 0.95

01:41:33.000 And I was claiming—we had a disagreement because I was claiming that, you know— Number one, one of my assistant producers at the network, check it out, RiftTV.com, he was looking at five years in prison for a stupid J6 bogus charge, right? 0.84

01:41:46.000 And I was under investigation. 0.78

01:41:47.000 I go, this is really selfish, but I know that Trump will pardon these people.

01:41:51.000 His entire presidency depends on it.

01:41:52.000 And there's one main reason I'm voting for him.

01:41:54.000 It's for my friends to be absolved of their fake criminal charges.

01:41:58.000 However, We're going to hear Israel's bad or this or that.

01:42:08.000 It's like, OK, look, everybody knows I'm anti-Zionist. 0.86

01:42:10.000 I don't agree with it.

01:42:11.000 And I knew Trump was a biggest – I think he's a bigger Zionist than the left. 0.76

01:42:15.000 I think he supports Israel unequivocally more than Biden or anybody did.

01:42:18.000 So are you going to sit here and say, because I voted for Trump, because I knew that there was friends I didn't want to go to jail, and I did feel like economically and also in other areas, including the value and the patriotism of our nation, including the strength of our military, that Trump would be a better choice, that somehow – I literally said that you can disagree with something, but there's a question between whether you agree with it or support it are different things.

01:42:48.000 But I'm saying the majority of Americans, I believe, from what I've seen in real polling, disagree with the immigration crisis right now, both legal and illegal.

01:42:57.000 They want to see people deported.

01:42:58.000 They want to see legal immigration down.

01:43:00.000 Not if Trump's doing it.

01:43:01.000 No, I think that people want it.

01:43:03.000 And then unfortunately, they look around and think people are disillusioned going, why does the government, why does Kash Patel say he's going to do all these things and no matter who gets in, nothing changes?

01:43:13.000 So I'm saying, I also think people are intentionally misinformed.

01:43:15.000 So like you're saying, well, why would they vote for this?

01:43:17.000 I don't think people are all that informed and intelligent.

01:43:20.000 I think Nick was right.

01:43:22.000 What?

01:43:23.000 If Nick's point was don't vote for him.

01:43:25.000 Was he right or was I right?

01:43:25.000 That's what I'm asking.

01:43:26.000 I don't know.

01:43:27.000 If Nick's point is vote for Trump is a vote to support Israel, he's correct. 0.99

01:43:31.000 Functionally correct.

01:43:32.000 I agree.

01:43:33.000 Yes.

01:43:34.000 But the question is, do you lend your support to things you don't like because there are things you need?

01:43:40.000 That's it.

01:43:41.000 I think either way you're going to get support for Israel.

01:43:43.000 I mean, Kamala's married to a Jewish man.

01:43:44.000 I didn't think we were going to see a change in that party.

01:43:46.000 But my point was, I'm saying, but with what you're saying, like, oh, it's white people, I'm saying the polling shows the popular amount of white people statistically do not support these things, but the government does it anyways.

01:43:58.000 And because we're in a democratic system where everyone has to say, and I will disavow it, I disavow violence, we're just trying to vote our way out of it.

01:44:06.000 When it turns out in the American primary system on certain issues that Especially on Zionism, that you are not going to really get—I'm thinking of Brandon Herrera here—you're not going to really get a candidate on the Republican or Democratic side who agrees with me on that issue.

01:44:20.000 They're going to put— Two people who agree on the Zionist issue to fight left and right.

01:44:24.000 I'm going, that's a losing battle for me.

01:44:25.000 I don't even try to fight it anymore on a voting level because I realize I'm not going to vote my way out of support for Israel.

01:44:29.000 That's not going to happen in this current electoral cycle or with this generation of people running because the way the primary system is set up.

01:44:35.000 So we're saying with white people, I'm saying maybe the system got rigged by people and I have to ask the question. 0.60

01:44:40.000 Why would white people intentionally create an international government system that— A liberal economic order.

01:44:46.000 Well, why would they do this that doesn't even focus on the deaths of white people from World War II?

01:44:50.000 We don't even talk about how— Why did they open trade with China?

01:44:53.000 Well, this is what I'm trying to ask.

01:44:53.000 Why would we create a system to engineer our own destruction?

01:44:57.000 Because they didn't think that was going to happen.

01:44:59.000 They thought opening trade with China was going to liberalize China and make China subservient to us through trade, and the opposite happened.

01:45:04.000 China exploited the United States, took our manufacturing, and then mocked us for it. 0.98

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01:48:28.000 So it's not unseated.

01:48:42.000 It's unseated.

01:48:43.000 Which literally means they never gave the land to Canada or the British Commonwealth.

01:48:49.000 And that was the king basically saying, we are illegitimately occupying your land, which you claim right to.

01:48:56.000 I think Trump should agree with him.

01:49:00.000 All right, let's go.

01:49:03.000 Lunar Looter says, Elijah, red pill girl and ghost girl on the same broadcast.

01:49:08.000 I am overwhelmed.

01:49:09.000 Take the ghost pill.

01:49:11.000 Was it Mary haunting the building, by the way?

01:49:13.000 Nope.

01:49:14.000 What are you talking about?

01:49:16.000 Haunting the building?

01:49:17.000 I don't know.

01:49:17.000 We had a paranormal experience that I can't talk about.

01:49:20.000 That had nothing to do with me.

01:49:21.000 No.

01:49:22.000 But they're putting the hard R on Elijah now?

01:49:24.000 Yeah, they're calling me Elijah and some people are censoring my last name.

01:49:30.000 Elijah.

01:49:30.000 Elijah came from working with too many Australians.

01:49:33.000 Elijah Schaefer.

01:49:34.000 Elijah?

01:49:35.000 Because the non-erotic Commonwealth accent, instead of ah, they say er, right?

01:49:40.000 Yeah, which is actually funny because I always ask Australian people, I was like, why do you always say the N-word And they're like, no, I'm saying it with the hard R. Then it's like, ah! 0.53

01:49:52.000 At the end, you're like, oh yeah, because you can't say your R's.

01:49:54.000 They can't do it.

01:49:56.000 But, you know.

01:49:57.000 That's a British thing indeed.

01:49:58.000 Yeah.

01:49:59.000 Alright, let's go.

01:50:01.000 KO7776 says, no one is talking about the possibility someone was paying Epstein's cellmates to brutally beat him and blackmailing him into doing it.

01:50:08.000 Technically still sewer slide.

01:50:09.000 That was the first one, but then they removed his cellmate.

01:50:11.000 It was by himself, I think.

01:50:13.000 So, yeah.

01:50:15.000 All right, let's see.

01:50:18.000 Uncle Sam is a Fraud says, Tim, did you watch the greatest free show on Earth last night?

01:50:22.000 America First with – I'm sorry, I read that wrong.

01:50:24.000 Israel First with Nicholas J. Fuentes.

01:50:26.000 Big show.

01:50:27.000 He does talk about Israel more than any other issue, doesn't he?

01:50:30.000 When are we going to have the debate?

01:50:32.000 What's the debate?

01:50:33.000 Well, I saw him say – I said Alex Jones, Elijah Schaefer.

01:50:36.000 I don't even know what the disagreement is really between you guys, but I mean like – I'm asking, what am I supposed to debate?

01:50:42.000 Well, I think you made claims that, like, they're Israel first, right? 0.51

01:50:46.000 I read the tweets.

01:50:47.000 It's an insult.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, I feel like it's a little bit demeaning, right?

01:50:50.000 Like, I mean, he does take attacks at you, too, though.

01:50:51.000 So, I mean, you guys are both kind of, like, cutting at each other.

01:50:53.000 My point is the people who think Israel is responsible for everything, the first thing that comes to their mind in terms of the problems of this country is Israel.

01:51:01.000 They're Israel first. 0.99

01:51:02.000 Like me, I'm concerned about our southern border.

01:51:04.000 I'm concerned about fentanyl crossing the Canadian border.

01:51:06.000 I'm concerned about the cartels in Mexico.

01:51:08.000 And then there are people who literally just talk about Israel all day.

01:51:10.000 And I'm like, bro, America has problems.

01:51:13.000 Israel is not the first on that list.

01:51:15.000 We can go over the things we don't like about Israel.

01:51:17.000 But when you bypass literally our southern border...

01:51:17.000 100% agreed.

01:51:24.000 20 million illegal immigrants over the span of a couple years flooding our labor market, flooding our hotels. 1.00

01:51:30.000 And you're like, yeah, but Israel.

01:51:31.000 I'm like, bro, are you serious?

01:51:32.000 You are Israel first. 0.96

01:51:33.000 You care more about Israel than the fact that New York, that Joe Biden brought in, I think the actual number is like 10 million over four years.

01:51:41.000 Considered to be one of the largest mass migrations in human history.

01:51:44.000 I think they believe that the Jews did that.

01:51:47.000 No, I honestly, because I've talked to both of you guys pretty extensively about your views, I think you misunderstand each other, but also I don't think that's true with him because I've never watched a full episode.

01:51:57.000 Sounds really bad.

01:51:58.000 I've never watched a full episode of this show or of his show.

01:52:00.000 I've never watched a full episode of my own show.

01:52:02.000 You don't end up watching your own stuff.

01:52:03.000 But I've seen enough clips to where I see him talking about Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel, the military-industrial complex being a huge issue in the ear of Trump.

01:52:12.000 And with you too, I think you don't get enough credit for being open and honest.

01:52:16.000 Where people won't even mention Israel or Zionist or, you know, or AIPAC or any of these words, you're not afraid to talk about them despite, you know, maybe it could cause problems for monetization.

01:52:25.000 So I think he has a real open opportunity to generate a lot of views and to say, if you're making these claims and he's saying that, you know, he's saying something, being able to sit down together and discuss this, I feel like this is what people want.

01:52:37.000 Is that a debate?

01:52:37.000 Well, it could be a discussion.

01:52:39.000 Quick question.

01:52:40.000 Okay, he's also making the claim that basically you're bought out by Israel or by Jewish interest.

01:52:44.000 Because it is real first.

01:52:48.000 What's the debate?

01:52:49.000 I don't get money from Israel?

01:52:50.000 He was accusing you of meeting with Netanyahu.

01:52:53.000 I met with Netanyahu, indeed.

01:52:55.000 And Tucker Carlson met with the Premier.

01:52:57.000 What did you guys talk about?

01:52:58.000 Netanyahu, there was a Chatham House meeting with like a dozen plus journalists at the Blair House, which is basically a White House guest house.

01:53:07.000 And he was talking largely about Iran getting a nuclear weapon and trying to go to war with Israel and the United States.

01:53:12.000 I think it's also pretty— Well, I'm confused on that too, why he did that.

01:53:21.000 But I think a lot of people want to know this.

01:53:23.000 Because I'm not making any accusations because I think a lot of people are too conspiratorial and think that everything's like, you know, some undercut, cooked background thing where people are getting top-down orders from Israel.

01:53:33.000 And that's really not what's happening.

01:53:34.000 Because they're Israel first. 1.00

01:53:35.000 They're deranged. 0.89

01:53:35.000 No, well, listen, okay, we'll disagree on that. 0.89

01:53:37.000 But I mean, that is crazy to have a meeting with a world leader.

01:53:40.000 Like, how do you get invited to that?

01:53:43.000 Yeah, like, why is Net Yahu meeting with all of our right-wing influencers?

01:53:49.000 Well, yeah, but I'm saying, but why would a foreign leader then want to meet with you because you have a big podcast in America?

01:53:54.000 Because he's advocating for U.S. support for their war with Iran.

01:53:57.000 Exactly.

01:53:59.000 It's called lobbying.

01:54:00.000 Well, what did he lobby?

01:54:01.000 Can you say?

01:54:03.000 Yeah, he was trying to convince a bunch of media personalities that the U.S. had to support Israel, and I would say 70% of the room told him to screw off.

01:54:11.000 What did you feel personally on that?

01:54:13.000 Do you have an opinion on that?

01:54:15.000 Well, in a matter of speaking, I mean, nobody literally said screw off, but there was a really funny moment where he's like, what does Iran say?

01:54:26.000 They do not say death to Israel.

01:54:28.000 They say death to America.

01:54:29.000 I'm not supposed to quote him, so I'm paraphrasing, I guess.

01:54:31.000 He said that.

01:54:31.000 I don't know.

01:54:32.000 And he goes, what do you think happens when they get a nuclear weapon?

01:54:38.000 They will be stopped by us, but they will come for you.

01:54:41.000 And then immediately someone goes, no, they won't.

01:54:43.000 Just blurt it out in the room.

01:54:44.000 It was hilarious.

01:54:45.000 And then he's like, yes, they will.

01:54:46.000 And they're like, no, they won't.

01:54:47.000 And then someone else goes, their nukes can't reach us.

01:54:50.000 It was funny.

01:54:51.000 But the idea that when Nick Fondes says something like, Tempol is bought and paid for by Israel, that's because he's, come on, he's lying.

01:54:58.000 Like, do you literally believe that Israel...

01:55:05.000 The liberals claim that Russia gave me money.

01:55:07.000 Lies. 0.99

01:55:08.000 And the Israel First people claim that Israel gives me money. 1.00

01:55:11.000 Stupid lies. 1.00

01:55:12.000 The Israel First people think that I won't talk about Israel at all because I'm in a band and because the music industry is run by Jews. 1.00

01:55:20.000 So I must not be allowed to talk about it.

01:55:23.000 Even though we sat down and had a conversation.

01:55:26.000 Scott Horton was here last Friday and the whole thing was talking about Israel.

01:55:30.000 The people that were talking about Israel.

01:55:32.000 There is no evidence that you could show them that would change their opinion.

01:55:36.000 I gotta tell you, Elijah.

01:55:37.000 The truth.

01:55:38.000 My Mossad agent insisted on inviting you onto my show.

01:55:42.000 And Scott Horton the week before.

01:55:44.000 Qatar needs to send you some more money.

01:55:46.000 The competition's thick.

01:55:47.000 I don't think Cutter's paying.

01:55:49.000 So Tucker Carlson got it.

01:55:50.000 James Lindsay thinks we're getting money from Qatar.

01:55:52.000 And James, I want to tell you, we are taking money from Qatar.

01:55:54.000 And it was a newspaper called Jewish Insider that lied about what I said to claim that I asserted Cutter was paying people.

01:56:02.000 That's smarmy.

01:56:03.000 So at this meeting, I asked Netanyahu.

01:56:06.000 There have been a bunch of claims that Qatar has been paying American influencers to promote anti-Israel content.

01:56:14.000 And then some writer reported Tim Pool claimed Cutter was paying influencers and asked the prime minister about it who said he wasn't sure.

01:56:21.000 And I'm like, I didn't tell him that it was happening.

01:56:23.000 My point was people had been accusing Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and other people of being paid by Cutter, which is a smear to impugn their honor on their own opinions.

01:56:32.000 And I'm a fan of Tucker Carlson.

01:56:34.000 So I said, do you have any evidence any of that's actually happened?

01:56:38.000 Prove that this is happening if that's the case.

01:56:39.000 very true because that's why I want to say this so to give credit on both sides number one do you not think that no That there would be a reason, a bias.

01:56:52.000 He'd be like, yeah, Tim's somebody that I could probably get to do my work.

01:56:56.000 And when that happens, with lobbying, I'm asking you, was this just like a meeting where he's just, you know, it's like Goodwill.

01:57:02.000 By the way, people say you shouldn't have met.

01:57:04.000 I think if you have an opportunity to meet with a world leader, you should take it.

01:57:06.000 and it's kind of a pretty cool opportunity.

01:57:08.000 But in a meeting like that, Or like, just to clarify, was there ever any benefits like money or any insinuation of influence or help or anything presented at a meeting like that?

01:57:28.000 Or have you ever been presented with some sort of benefit from Israel?

01:57:31.000 Nope.

01:57:32.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.

01:57:32.000 There you go.

01:57:33.000 So, I mean, people have to take you at your word, but I think the same thing goes with the guitar thing. 1.00

01:57:37.000 They're nuts.

01:57:38.000 But the guitar thing's true, too, because I'm not going to call her out. 0.95

01:57:40.000 Why would Scott Horton come on the show numerous days?

01:57:43.000 He was skateboarding with us.

01:57:44.000 No, I know, but somebody prominent messaged me, and they're like, you know, blah, blah, blah, all your friends are taking money from Qatar.

01:57:49.000 He's a very, very prominent person, and I said, cool, where's the evidence for that?

01:57:51.000 Can you just send it to me because I want to be able to call them out?

01:57:53.000 I want to text them right now.

01:57:54.000 Did you see they tried accusing Tucker Carlson of doing that?

01:57:56.000 Yeah, with taking money to interview the premier.

01:57:58.000 Right, and so I was on the show the other day, and he brought that up.

01:58:01.000 I pulled it up and I immediately saw through the manipulation through the media.

01:58:05.000 This is a conservative media.

01:58:06.000 It said that Cutter was paying $180,000 a month to an outreach company to secure this interview.

01:58:12.000 The insinuation being that Tucker Carlson was getting this money.

01:58:17.000 When actually the story likely is, Cutter hires a PR firm to try and get interviews for them, and Tucker Carlson got an email from someone that he didn't know saying, would you like to interview the Prime Minister or the Premier of Cutter?

01:58:29.000 And he went, wow, yeah, who wouldn't?

01:58:31.000 So he did.

01:58:32.000 Then they write a story saying Cutter paid $180,000 to get this interview, implying they paid Tucker when they actually just paid a standard PR agency to do outreach.

01:58:41.000 We have a PR company.

01:58:42.000 We pay them a lot of money.

01:58:43.000 And then they do outreach to other podcasts saying, would you like to.

01:58:49.000 And it's how we actually book some of our guests and it's how I end up going on Bill Maher.

01:58:52.000 But imagine if someone took that story and said, Tim Pool paid tens of thousands of dollars to get the interview with Bill Maher to imply that I had to pay him cash to do it.

01:59:02.000 That's what they were trying to do to Tucker. 1.00

01:59:04.000 The idea that anybody is getting paid, so of all the podcasters, the idea that anyone's getting paid by Cutter is stupid and ridiculous. 1.00

01:59:12.000 The idea that anybody's getting paid by Israel is stupid and ridiculous, or Russia is stupid and ridiculous, and this is what they try and do to impugn your honor. 1.00

01:59:19.000 The idea that there is just like, every faction believes there's a secret cabal of their enemies paying their adversaries. 1.00

01:59:27.000 And I'm like, dude, sometimes people just have opinions.

01:59:31.000 But I will say this, and we should read some more chats.

01:59:33.000 The funny thing about the Israel First people, when they post things like, Tim is bought and paid for by Israel, I'm like, Well, they're not really getting their bang for their buck when I literally advocate for stripping all federal funding to Israel, like, every opportunity I get.

01:59:49.000 Praise Dave Smith's arguments on the matter about America should not be involved in Israel's war.

01:59:53.000 We should not be involved with Iran. 1.00

01:59:55.000 We should not be involved in their political dealings.

01:59:57.000 Is that what Israel's supposedly paying for?

01:59:59.000 Is that pro-Israel to say that we shouldn't be involved and we should cut off all funding to them?

02:00:04.000 Well, can I ask you—this is a real question because I know we have to go on to other super chats, but do you feel genuinely—which I believe your views on Israel are authentic and it's what you believe.

02:00:13.000 And I've never accused you of, like, taking money from Israel or anything like that.

02:00:16.000 But...

02:00:34.000 that you'd be able to bring on the same, you know, U.S. government officials and have the same place and invite and platform in right-wing or free speech, like areas of concentration and meetup.

02:00:45.000 Like, do you think that you would have Do you think there would be negative benefits?

02:01:00.000 That's true for any subject.

02:01:02.000 Do you think really if Qatar would be punished in the right wing if you looked at how many people were getting in Qatar?

02:01:05.000 Nobody cares about Qatar. 0.98

02:01:07.000 Yeah, they do.

02:01:08.000 Joel Berry does.

02:01:08.000 Seth Dillon does.

02:01:09.000 Colin Wright does.

02:01:10.000 James Luzi does.

02:01:11.000 Qatar isn't as impactful as Israel in American politics.

02:01:14.000 They claim they are, though.

02:01:15.000 They do spend a lot of money on foreign.

02:01:17.000 They spend more on foreign lobbying in the United States than Israel does, but there's different kinds of influence.

02:01:21.000 Doesn't it hurt you?

02:01:22.000 Don't you think that one of the main reasons why Fuentes is so censored, even though him and I share vastly different views on a lot of different topics, I cannot figure out any other reason why he's debanked in all these things except for his views on Israel.

02:01:35.000 Did you say that one interview recently?

02:01:36.000 Who was that?

02:01:36.000 Was it an ambassador that said Netanyahu's upset about Netanyahu?

02:01:39.000 They said Netanyahu doesn't want more people like Fuentes rising up.

02:01:42.000 He's upset that people like this have a platform.

02:01:44.000 Isn't that kind of an issue?

02:01:45.000 And Hassan Piker is one of the biggest live streamers in the country.

02:01:49.000 Correct.

02:01:50.000 And he's being propped up by the New York Times.

02:01:52.000 Do you think he might be taking money from Qatar?

02:01:55.000 People say he's getting money from foreign countries.

02:01:57.000 The thing about Hasan... 0.60

02:01:57.000 I don't know. 0.60

02:02:03.000 I could be wrong about that, but I thought that they got an investment.

02:02:06.000 Al Jazeera Plus is a big Qatari-funded Al Jazeera in general.

02:02:09.000 So I would say this.

02:02:13.000 There are a variety of subjects to where if you come out extremely strong on them, you can find yourself isolated from certain platforms.

02:02:21.000 Do you think that if I was like – Every video I did—actually, I put it this way.

02:02:32.000 Do you think Trump would do an interview with Brian Tyler Cohen?

02:02:36.000 I don't think Trump would do an interview with anyone that doesn't have extremely high ratings.

02:02:39.000 I think that's what he cares about.

02:02:40.000 Ryan Tyler Cohen gets more views than Joe Rogan does.

02:02:44.000 But every single video he produces is a screenshot of Trump and then something nonsensical about Trump like Trump unhinged rant viral and it's like not even news.

02:02:53.000 It's just he spam blasts.

02:02:55.000 Yeah, Trump's kind of going to be like, I don't see the benefit of talking to someone like that.

02:02:59.000 And so...

02:03:02.000 The right's more tolerant of these things.

02:03:03.000 But one of the things that I told the Triggernometry podcast, when they told me that I was wrong, they were like, you're just blanketing all the left as one.

02:03:12.000 I could do that about the right.

02:03:13.000 I'm like, no, you can't.

02:03:14.000 You're wrong.

02:03:14.000 And the example is Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., Donald Trump, Elon Musk, former liberals who are now on the right because the right is accepting of views that they disagree with.

02:03:25.000 For example, I'm like politically moderate.

02:03:28.000 And old school pro-choice.

02:03:30.000 And Charlie Kirk invites me on his stage at TPUSA, which is a largely Christian conservative event, and they give me my position to talk about what we largely agree with and even express my opinions on the things I don't agree with.

02:03:42.000 Because I think the right understands we're not going to all agree on everything, but we have to build coalition around the ideas that we want to succeed with together.

02:03:50.000 Most of them won't build any sort of coalition with someone like Nick Fuentes.

02:03:53.000 But I think the, I think the issue with Nick is that he's, He's caustic.

02:04:01.000 If you look at, like Tim just mentioned, Hassan is every bit as critical of Israel as Fuentes is.

02:04:10.000 But the way that Fuentes delivers it is intentionally trolly.

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02:07:08.000 There we go.

02:07:09.000 So I don't know if you remember what you were going to say.

02:07:11.000 You were about to say something.

02:07:12.000 Let me try to remember.

02:07:13.000 Okay, here's the thing, though. 0.94

02:07:15.000 Okay, you can say Nick Fuentes is a troll.

02:07:18.000 He goes after a lot of these people, and that's why they apparently don't want to talk to them.

02:07:22.000 But someone like Charlie Kirk, I mean, he'll sit down and debate Gavin Newsom.

02:07:26.000 The governor of California.

02:07:28.000 Yeah, but someone who supports far-left ideology, he probably agrees with Nick Fuentes on a lot more than with Gavin Newsom, but why won't he debate Nick then?

02:07:39.000 This is the same with almost all these mainstream things.

02:07:42.000 I would agree that there is a component of people don't like Nick's politics, and so there are groups that are going to be like, we don't like that guy.

02:07:51.000 We don't like his group.

02:07:52.000 We don't like his audience.

02:07:53.000 But there's a few things.

02:07:55.000 The first thing I pointed out, when Cassandra used to work here, and she's very anti-Israel, and she was doing bookings, we actually talked about bringing Nick on the show.

02:08:05.000 The problem is, Nick's fan base is, like, I've said this before, I'll say it again, and his audience, he gets mad about it.

02:08:11.000 It's true. 0.99

02:08:11.000 I don't give a shit. 0.99

02:08:12.000 We get too many death threats. 0.99

02:08:14.000 Like, people fear bringing up his name because of what his audience does.

02:08:18.000 It's called getting groyped, right? 0.77

02:08:21.000 I understand.

02:08:21.000 Sure.

02:08:22.000 They've done it to me too, man.

02:08:24.000 I gotta spend half a million to a million per year in security. 0.97

02:08:27.000 Now, I'm kind of a shithead who doesn't really care all that much and it gets me in trouble. 0.88

02:08:32.000 I have no problem doing a whole episode of Timcast IRL just bitching about how this job is stressful or something like I did in October. 0.96

02:08:37.000 And then a bunch of people get mad at me for it.

02:08:39.000 People are always mad at you for something.

02:08:41.000 Sure, they're allowed to be.

02:08:42.000 But, you know, I don't do what a lot of these companies do.

02:08:46.000 I don't try to play the PR route.

02:08:48.000 I don't try to just like... 1.00

02:08:50.000 I just kind of just talk shit. 0.99

02:08:52.000 And so I've had people who have outright said, mention Nick Fuentes on your show and spend 20 grand because the death threats are going to get intense. 0.99

02:09:02.000 But what are the death threats?

02:09:04.000 It doesn't matter.

02:09:06.000 It doesn't matter.

02:09:09.000 When you're getting swatted and when you have people showing up at your house.

02:09:12.000 It's not him.

02:09:13.000 It's his phone.

02:09:14.000 And then Nick actually went on his show once and said, guys, stop spamming Tim Pool.

02:09:14.000 It's his audience.

02:09:19.000 Like, because I was talking to Sandra, I was like, yeah, let's book him, let's do it. 0.98

02:09:23.000 And then we started getting fucking spam-bullied. 0.57

02:09:24.000 I think these people are not really his fans. 0.98

02:09:29.000 I think it's leftists trying to make people think.

02:09:33.000 This is what Nick Fuentes brings.

02:09:35.000 so that people won't associate with them.

02:09:37.000 It must be Spurgs, though. 1.00

02:09:38.000 There's a lot of weird Spurgs that will just... 1.00

02:09:38.000 Sure. 1.00

02:09:40.000 People in your chat tonight were like, oh, those are bots saying debate, Nick.

02:09:45.000 We're like one every 200 messages because it just pops up.

02:09:48.000 But I did see some spam tonight.

02:09:49.000 But I feel like it's kind of a cope, though, because I've had him on multiple times when he was really hostile towards...

02:09:57.000 Like his whole people were really hostile towards me.

02:10:00.000 And, you know...

02:10:08.000 And, you know, I understand that, you know, these are like young guys.

02:10:11.000 They're pretty rowdy or whatever.

02:10:12.000 Like, you know, things happen.

02:10:13.000 Like, these guys were really, these are like early 20s, right?

02:10:16.000 But I don't, I think that's not the majority of Groypers or his audience has changed.

02:10:21.000 I feel like his audience has changed now and that it's a lot of like normal people.

02:10:21.000 It doesn't matter.

02:10:24.000 And the point is, not that literally everybody who follows him is a psychopath, but that when we would mention him and Any capacity.

02:10:33.000 We get spammed endlessly with debate, Nick, over and over and over again.

02:10:37.000 People in the chat start complaining, saying the chat doesn't work anymore.

02:10:40.000 Then we have to talk about getting moderators. 1.00

02:10:42.000 Then we get a bunch of emails from people saying anti-Semitic slurs, we're going to fucking kill you, rape you in the ear, and other dumb shit. 1.00

02:10:50.000 We get shit that goes beyond that, where they post things that they intend to be deemed credible. 1.00

02:10:56.000 Posting addresses or sending letters to places that people shouldn't know about. 0.98

02:11:03.000 What if it's on a different platform?

02:11:04.000 What if I'm willing to take on the threat and the security on one of my platforms?

02:11:08.000 No, it's the association.

02:11:09.000 And that's why I first argued, I don't believe these are all Nick's fans because they only make it harder for him to actually do what he's doing.

02:11:18.000 Somebody who hates him is pretending to like him so that people won't associate with Nick.

02:11:22.000 I think that's a possibility. 0.97

02:11:26.000 Benefit for Tim to go through all this and take all this, go through all of the bullshit that he has to go through. 0.97

02:11:33.000 So that way he talks to Nick. 0.98

02:11:35.000 I hear you, but I don't care.

02:11:37.000 Like, having yay Nick and Milo on.

02:11:39.000 That was extremely risky, too.

02:11:41.000 I've seen you not avoid this.

02:11:42.000 I had people texting me saying, don't do it.

02:11:44.000 I think having a yay on is much more risky.

02:11:49.000 The bigger issue is, what would we debate?

02:11:53.000 I think everything.

02:11:53.000 I think the universalist worldview of, like, what's the main problems in America?

02:11:57.000 Who's really behind it?

02:11:58.000 And then he's going to go Israel.

02:11:59.000 I'm going to say, uh-huh, okay.

02:12:00.000 And then I'm going to say, what else?

02:12:02.000 I'm going to say, sure.

02:12:02.000 And then he's going to say Israel.

02:12:03.000 I don't think it would just be Israel.

02:12:04.000 I think if you – I think your moderate position – I think sometimes debates aren't about winning – You don't have – you're not important. 1.00

02:12:17.000 What you're saying is stupid. 1.00

02:12:18.000 You're bought out by Israel, Tim. 1.00

02:12:20.000 And then it's like – That's not a debate.

02:12:22.000 I'm saying people are saying that.

02:12:24.000 Yeah, but I'm saying people are saying that.

02:12:26.000 And I see Fuentes' popularity growing in terms of no matter how much he's censored.

02:12:31.000 He seems to be gaining more – I meet people all the time.

02:12:34.000 I'm not a griper.

02:12:35.000 I have my own views.

02:12:36.000 I come from a more moderate background as well.

02:12:38.000 People say I'm too race-obsessed, whatever.

02:12:40.000 I don't agree with him, particularly, number one, on his views on women and marriage and things like that.

02:12:46.000 I don't like the incel stuff.

02:12:47.000 I think it's weird.

02:12:48.000 I think we've got to be telling guys to get married, to have children.

02:12:50.000 We have disagreements.

02:12:52.000 I don't have them on all the time.

02:12:53.000 I've had them once every 18 months or something like that.

02:12:56.000 It's not something that I somehow involve.

02:12:59.000 I don't stream on his website.

02:13:00.000 But I know that there's this schism.

02:13:02.000 No, I think you're wrong.

02:13:10.000 Wouldn't that be cool?

02:13:11.000 I don't even watch shows. 1.00

02:13:12.000 I would watch that shit. 1.00

02:13:13.000 If it's like you, Charlie, and Nick, and someone else having a discussion on a table like this, holy shit, that would blow up the internet. 1.00

02:13:19.000 That'd be crazy. 0.88

02:13:19.000 There's a schism in the sense that I have a schism with Hassan or... 0.88

02:13:25.000 That'd be even fucking cooler. 0.95

02:13:26.000 Or Ethan Klein, or Sam Seder. 0.96

02:13:29.000 It's like, sure, people who disagree with each other on the internet.

02:13:31.000 Like, there's no schism.

02:13:32.000 I made the point that It's ten times as much as Israel. 0.96

02:13:44.000 And then people are like, yeah, but Israel.

02:13:45.000 And I'm like, we sold our entire manufacturing base to China over 30 years.

02:13:51.000 China owns our vitamin and antibiotic production almost entirely.

02:13:55.000 We can't produce computer chips. 0.99

02:13:57.000 We have no fucking jobs anymore. 0.99

02:13:59.000 And we have a generation that is economically dead. 0.99

02:14:03.000 And China did it. 0.92

02:14:04.000 And then they're like, yeah, but Israel. 0.68

02:14:06.000 I'm like, okay.

02:14:07.000 You're Israel first. 0.98

02:14:09.000 That's the point of what Israel first means.

02:14:12.000 You know what I think, though?

02:14:14.000 I feel like the reason why it bothers me in this whole schism right now is it seems like there's this breakdown about what people think we need to do in our country for the future.

02:14:25.000 They're not on this side.

02:14:26.000 I would put...

02:14:27.000 on the America first thing.

02:14:28.000 No, what do we call, yeah, but what do we call, I don't know what we're calling these people, these like anti-woke right people, which like, I even understand their sentiment of like where they were coming up with this idea, but they've got, they've lost their mind in terms of they're just like, they're basically just like hate Nick Fuentes and his followers and then like have, I think Lindsay called me the woke right youth recruiter, I don't know what that means.

02:14:45.000 So I'll tell you what they're doing.

02:14:47.000 It has nothing to do with Fuentes.

02:14:49.000 Fuentes is a cudgel they're using because he's considered vile and caustic.

02:14:55.000 So, because people's typical interactions with Nick is negative, they go, hey, look at Nick Fuentes, he's woke right.

02:15:04.000 Then once they establish, this is standard, it's called anchoring.

02:15:09.000 You say, woke right equals Nick Fuentes.

02:15:11.000 Then, you say, Elijah Schaefer equals woke right.

02:15:14.000 Because they want people who don't know who you are to think of you in the same way people think of Nick Fuentes.

02:15:20.000 I don't think my audience is going to do the same thing.

02:15:21.000 Like, they're going to come in and be like... 0.75

02:15:34.000 And these are degenerate liberals.

02:15:36.000 People like James Lindsay, for instance.

02:15:39.000 These are people who want to have open marriages and things like that.

02:15:44.000 They want to be liberals.

02:15:46.000 And they're losing.

02:15:47.000 It's not just wokeness that lost.

02:15:49.000 It's liberals in general.

02:15:51.000 So their plan is, first, anchor people's understanding of a catchphrase, alt-right, far-right.

02:15:58.000 That's not going to work.

02:16:00.000 They're woke.

02:16:00.000 Woke-right.

02:16:01.000 Nick Fuentes is reviled.

02:16:03.000 People of interactions with him don't like him.

02:16:06.000 Let's take all the nasty things he said, the way he acts.

02:16:10.000 I'm sorry, the dude's smarmy.

02:16:12.000 When you see the clips from him, talking like this, he comes off as smarmy, whether he intends to or not.

02:16:18.000 James Lindsay and these liberals said, call him woke right.

02:16:23.000 Claim that he's using identity politics when he talks about Jews.

02:16:27.000 Then what we'll do is we'll start broadening the tent to incorporate any conservative ideals.

02:16:32.000 Now they're claiming libertarian Dave Smith is woke right?

02:16:37.000 Candace Owens, too.

02:16:39.000 So you're tying her in with white nationalism and stuff?

02:16:41.000 That's pretty bizarre.

02:16:43.000 That was the plan.

02:16:44.000 They want to hurt conservatism in general.

02:16:46.000 To which James Lindsay admitted the end boss for what they're doing is national conservatism.

02:16:52.000 I did see them admit that.

02:16:53.000 I think it's weird, too, because I'm not conservative.

02:16:55.000 I want to remind people.

02:16:56.000 I think it's just because I worked at a conservative network at Blaze that people thought that I was conservative.

02:17:01.000 It's like, I'm from Los Angeles, you know?

02:17:03.000 I always have a joke that I'm like a California conservative.

02:17:05.000 Like, like, but I've become more, And I would say a lot of, we need conservatism.

02:17:15.000 My personal life, the way I am, I'm not a very conservative person.

02:17:18.000 And I'm very open about it on all of my shows.

02:17:20.000 You can listen to my lifestyle, how I live, what I've done in my life.

02:17:23.000 But I have seen, hey, you know what?

02:17:25.000 It's dangerous.

02:17:26.000 We don't want to promote this kind of stuff.

02:17:27.000 And then they look at me and they're like, I'm just telling young people, hey, you don't want to make the choices I've made.

02:17:32.000 These conservatives are right.

02:17:33.000 You should get married and you should not sleep around and you shouldn't do drugs and you should establish your family.

02:17:38.000 And they're like, hey, what is Elijah doing?

02:17:40.000 He's trying to build a strong nation.

02:17:41.000 I'm like, well, yeah, because I look at my life.

02:17:43.000 Like I have so many consequences and issues and things that I have to deal with because I've made – And it's like, I don't want people to go down that road.

02:17:54.000 I don't want my kids to go down that road.

02:17:55.000 Why am I bad?

02:17:57.000 Here's the issue.

02:17:59.000 Conservatives are winning.

02:18:01.000 Woke is not the only thing being cast out.

02:18:04.000 So imagine you're a liberal who wants to whack off the pictures of dogs.

02:18:08.000 And then you find out that conservatives want to ban porn. 1.00

02:18:13.000 Not even thinking about the weird shit these liberals want to do. 0.99

02:18:18.000 For these – you know, Jack Posible calls them woke light. 0.99

02:18:21.000 I call them woke right.

02:18:22.000 They are the right side of the woke faction.

02:18:26.000 They want to – just like the phrase alt-right, they want to create a term that will terrify disaffected liberals into not associating with certain conservative personalities.

02:18:37.000 Yeah, of course.

02:18:38.000 And they – it's funny because I'm a thorn in their side particularly because there's nothing they could say that would have me be in that faction.

02:18:47.000 I am not a conservative.

02:18:49.000 I'm, I guess, moderate with some conservative values, some liberal values.

02:18:53.000 And so they can't call me woke, right?

02:18:55.000 But they're trying to.

02:18:57.000 I've seen them say it before. 0.97

02:18:58.000 They're trying to, but it doesn't fucking make sense. 1.00

02:19:00.000 Because I don't go on the weird Jews shit. 1.00

02:19:03.000 And I'm not a staunch conservative Christian. 1.00

02:19:06.000 I'm not a Christian. 1.00

02:19:07.000 And so they're sitting there going, fuck, fuck. 1.00

02:19:09.000 Tim Pool is supposed to be agreeing with us because he's a disaffected liberal. 1.00

02:19:12.000 And I'm like, you're liars. 1.00

02:19:15.000 You have bad ideas, you are losing the culture war, and you deserve to because your ideas are fucking retarded. 1.00

02:19:22.000 And then they go, uh, woke right? 1.00

02:19:25.000 Have you seen Lindsay?

02:19:26.000 He's actually the...

02:19:30.000 He has a shirt that he wears.

02:19:31.000 And I feel bad because I used to like Lindsay, too.

02:19:34.000 And I know I'm not the most likable person, so I'm not claiming that everyone should like me.

02:19:39.000 You're plenty likable.

02:19:40.000 Not really.

02:19:43.000 The Babylon Bee is woke, right?

02:19:44.000 This is what's blowing my mind.

02:19:46.000 And I mentioned this.

02:19:47.000 These aren't retards. 0.99

02:19:49.000 I know the chat might disagree, but their people would say, I'm retarded.

02:19:52.000 I know these guys, and they have a They also have reputations to show they've built things.

02:19:59.000 They've outsmarted academic journals.

02:20:03.000 They've built incredible satire sites that have been banned by US politicians, have lobbied social media sites to ban them because they were so threatened by their humor.

02:20:13.000 And it's like, to end on this, to kind of throw away your reputation, to try to stop young people from trying to earn back their birthright.

02:20:21.000 Look, I'm a little bit uncomfortable sometimes with my own view.

02:20:24.000 Some of the things that I've had to accept as true that I wish weren't has been really difficult in my political journey.

02:20:31.000 There's so many things that I wish could just be liberalism, that we could just accept like James Lindsay's worldview, that we can just kind of do whatever we want and it's not going to have eternal consequences.

02:20:40.000 I wish that were true because I'd love to not think that some of the moral choices I made in my life weren't wrong.

02:20:45.000 I'd love to think that I can do whatever I want.

02:20:47.000 But it's like I've had to come as I've grown up being like, you know what?

02:20:50.000 There are so many unseen consequences for living a gay, liberal, godless lifestyle that really affects these countries for the negative. 1.00

02:20:58.000 And this is a real problem. 1.00

02:20:59.000 People feel like shit. 0.99

02:21:00.000 No one's happy. 1.00

02:21:01.000 No one likes their life.

02:21:03.000 We're going to go to callers, but I do want to mention one thing.

02:21:04.000 We have callers now?

02:21:06.000 Yeah.

02:21:06.000 Babylon, these guys, they are woke, right?

02:21:13.000 I define woke as the cult-like adherence to the liberal social orthodoxy.

02:21:19.000 And when I was talking to Bill Maher, I mentioned this.

02:21:21.000 The reason why, that's how I define it, and I believe I'm correct.

02:21:24.000 You get all these people on the right who are like, woke means like critical race, they're wrong.

02:21:28.000 That doesn't explain why they support Islam.

02:21:29.000 Islam is a dominant, global, militant, theocratic, fundamentalist structure. 0.86

02:21:36.000 They are not oppressed in any stretch of the imagination.

02:21:38.000 So why is Islam being supported?

02:21:41.000 That makes no sense.

02:21:42.000 Ukraine.

02:21:44.000 It makes no sense to support U.S. military and NATO.

02:21:46.000 Like, NATO is not an oppressed group.

02:21:48.000 It is literally just the narrative machine they're told to adhere to.

02:21:51.000 So when the Babylon Bee and these people come out and start attacking conservatives in a disparate fashion on wildly different ideologies, Dave Smith and Nick Fuentes probably don't like each other.

02:22:05.000 Dave Smith's Jewish.

02:22:06.000 No, they're friends.

02:22:07.000 Are they actually friends?

02:22:09.000 Okay, well, I stand corrected.

02:22:09.000 What I should say is, They're different ideologies.

02:22:19.000 So how could they all be the same political faction?

02:22:22.000 They're not.

02:22:23.000 So then why would any group come out and claim they're all one faction?

02:22:26.000 Well, they do all criticize Zionism and Israeli influence.

02:22:30.000 And so that is their only—so then the only concern that the likes of Babylon being James Lindsay has is there's a group of people concerned about Israel?

02:22:38.000 I think that's honestly what Seth Dillon's issue is.

02:22:40.000 And they're trying to claim it's not.

02:22:44.000 And that's the point.

02:22:45.000 They're woke.

02:22:46.000 They have a social orthodoxy to adhere to.

02:22:49.000 Anybody who deviates must be cancelled and is part of the other group.

02:22:52.000 But we do gotta go to cause because we are going wrong.

02:22:53.000 They're just gatekeepers.

02:22:54.000 They're trying to gatekeepers.

02:22:55.000 Let's start with Merck.

02:22:56.000 What is up?

02:22:58.000 Hello.

02:22:59.000 Can you guys hear me?

02:23:00.000 What's up, man?

02:23:00.000 I can't hear you.

02:23:02.000 Excellent.

02:23:04.000 Well, my question My question is for Elijah.

02:23:07.000 um so all due respect you feel like a white race better race baiter excuse me um like a jesse jackson for star wars obsessed computer nerds right sure yeah it's just an american Construction for race because they didn't want people to come here as Irish or Indian or Chinese.

02:23:24.000 They wanted people to be American.

02:23:26.000 So my question is, why do you care so much about white people?

02:23:29.000 Well, first of all, thank you for pointing out that I'm white.

02:23:32.000 Yes, I am.

02:23:33.000 And as a race baiter, I mean, what have I said that's baiting people that's untrue about race either tonight or previously that you disagree with?

02:23:45.000 I guess I just mostly that you bring up white people so much.

02:23:50.000 Yeah, because there's so much against white people institutionally in our country that somebody's got to speak out for them. 0.91

02:23:56.000 So not a lot of people do, but I just choose to do that with my limited time because I can only choose a few topics to care about.

02:24:01.000 Since my kids are white and I feel like their future is disadvantaged because of their skin color, I'm going to fight against the discrimination against white people.

02:24:09.000 I'm not saying any other people are not discriminated against. 1.00

02:24:11.000 I'm not saying that there aren't other problems.

02:24:12.000 And I don't think white people are the only people with value in the world.

02:24:15.000 But, I mean, quite frankly, it might be selfish.

02:24:17.000 But I care about my family and my kids more than anyone else.

02:24:19.000 So, if that makes sense.

02:24:21.000 But I don't know what else.

02:24:22.000 supposed to care about black people more? 0.97

02:24:26.000 That's right.

02:24:28.000 I don't know.

02:24:28.000 Does that answer your question?

02:24:32.000 I don't know.

02:24:32.000 Can we hear it?

02:24:33.000 Not really.

02:24:36.000 Why can't white people just stand up for themselves? 0.95

02:24:38.000 I think Elijah is sexually attracted to white people. 0.98

02:24:41.000 Unfortunately. 0.96

02:24:42.000 I made two more of them.

02:24:43.000 How about if you rephrase the question so that way we can...

02:24:50.000 He's trying to say that race is a social construct.

02:24:52.000 Was that what it was said?

02:24:53.000 Yeah, he was trying to imply that this whole thing of, like, white's like an arbitrary category, blah, blah, blah.

02:25:00.000 No, it's not.

02:25:00.000 Race isn't real.

02:25:01.000 No, no, it's really not, man.

02:25:03.000 I think there's a Filipino and a Korean person.

02:25:06.000 I don't know the exact race of people.

02:25:07.000 They just had a child and they're eight years old and they can't find bone marrow.

02:25:14.000 She needs a bone marrow transplant. 1.00

02:25:15.000 But because of the rare genetic racial intermixing sexually, their kid is unable to find a match to this rare intermixing.

02:25:21.000 There's a consequence of a certain genetic decomposition that can happen, not just with white people, right? 1.00

02:25:26.000 certain things can happen negatively.

02:25:28.000 I mean, in terms of white being a racial construct, We have different technically ethnic backgrounds, but as a racial construct, it is a real group of people.

02:25:40.000 Some people can have light skin, but we all know that it is.

02:25:43.000 There are dispositions.

02:25:45.000 Other races acknowledge that.

02:25:46.000 That's why deconstructing whiteness is a big thing on the left.

02:25:48.000 We know that there's a culture, behavior, architecture, a way of life and a religion that goes along with that genetic component.

02:25:56.000 Genetics isn't the only precursor or perpetuation of conduct or behavior, but it is a leading force, in fact.

02:26:05.000 Genetics definitely do affect who you are.

02:26:07.000 Just like black people lack certain enzymes that can interfere with serotonin breakdown, which means that sometimes under stressful situations, a portion of them can act impulsively because it's more stressful for them than it is for white people.

02:26:18.000 Some of them, not all of them, that is an individual genetic component.

02:26:22.000 Asian people with Asian glow, a lot of them lack alcohol dehydrogenase, so they have a different breakdown of alcohol, which can affect their behavior while drunk.

02:26:29.000 Racial constructs. 0.99

02:26:30.000 Our kind of fake race is very, very real. 0.91

02:26:33.000 It's not the only factor that matters, but if the left is saying race matters and they're caring enough that they want to deconstruct people who look like me, destroy our way of life, and disadvantage us, then I'm going to fight where the battle is, and that's a huge battle that's going on, and I want to fight it.

02:26:47.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:26:47.000 You know what's really funny is if you ask any skateboarder about the racial differences in skateboarding, they'll tell you.

02:26:54.000 Asians skate what we call technical skating, which is...

02:26:59.000 It's not absolute.

02:27:01.000 But most Asians that you end up seeing will do really technical advanced tricks on the ground. 1.00

02:27:08.000 So outside, you have a small ledge off the ground.

02:27:10.000 You'll see someone like Daywon Song is a great example.

02:27:13.000 He's an Asian dude.

02:27:14.000 And he's going to do a fakie 360 flip wheelie.

02:27:16.000 We call them manuals, but bounce on two wheels and then 360 flip out.

02:27:19.000 The board spins 360.

02:27:20.000 It's technical.

02:27:20.000 It's complicated.

02:27:22.000 Black dudes. 0.83

02:27:23.000 Almost always have super big jumps.

02:27:25.000 They ollie super high and they do switch heel flips. 0.93

02:27:27.000 I'm not trying to be a dick. 0.86

02:27:29.000 It's just that skateboarders and white guys tend to huck themselves off big buildings and things like that. 0.92

02:27:34.000 It's not absolute.

02:27:35.000 It must just be because of culture.

02:27:39.000 Wait, what's your ethnicity of the collar?

02:27:41.000 Just so I know.

02:27:41.000 Are you white or what's your ethnicity?

02:27:48.000 Do you have a country?

02:27:50.000 Is there an ethnic background?

02:27:51.000 Particularly because there are black Europeans. 0.99

02:27:54.000 I'm probably what's considered to be a European mutt.

02:27:57.000 So a lot of German, Polish, Irish.

02:28:00.000 White. 0.81

02:28:01.000 Did you give your name, by the way?

02:28:03.000 Merck.

02:28:05.000 Are you being anonymous?

02:28:06.000 Or do you want to give your full name?

02:28:08.000 Because that would help me to know your actual ethnicity.

02:28:10.000 What's your last name?

02:28:11.000 What country is it from?

02:28:13.000 It's very German.

02:28:15.000 Okay, it's very German.

02:28:16.000 Okay, so you're German.

02:28:16.000 So you're white.

02:28:17.000 Congratulations.

02:28:18.000 Welcome to the club.

02:28:19.000 I just want to add, I wouldn't say that race is fake, but using skin color as the primary indicator just feels... 0.94

02:28:30.000 So I talk about white Europeans. 0.60

02:28:32.000 Depending on when you ask them, they'll give you a different answer.

02:28:34.000 Yeah, I know, but I don't consider that to be I don't consider why Hispanics to be white. 0.92

02:28:37.000 So, I mean, like skin color isn't, We're talking about the white race, not just people who have light skin.

02:28:41.000 This is what the left believes.

02:28:44.000 An albino African is not white. 0.50

02:28:47.000 Right.

02:28:47.000 The leftist view of white is exactly this, that white is a social class that doesn't include, say, sometimes it doesn't include Jews, it doesn't include white Hispanics, and it doesn't include albino.

02:28:59.000 Yeah, I'd say we use white as a euphemism for European or Eurocentric heritage, which is why we'd consider Australia to be a white country. 0.77

02:29:05.000 It's in Asia, but technically it's Australia.

02:29:07.000 It's its own continent, but it's in the Asian quadrant of the world.

02:29:09.000 I know it's its own continent, so don't misquote me on that.

02:29:12.000 I'm just saying they're not Asian, and obviously we know there's a difference between when we say Australian, we're not talking about aboriginals, which is why we call them aboriginals.

02:29:19.000 We know there's a difference racially.

02:29:21.000 Japanese people are white. 1.00

02:29:23.000 I would say they're fair-skinned.

02:29:24.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess you could make the argument.

02:29:25.000 They are not actually white, as we use the word white.

02:29:28.000 But when you go to Japan, you'll find a lot of people, they're pale. 1.00

02:29:31.000 They're very pale.

02:29:31.000 They have light skin.

02:29:33.000 Good point.

02:29:34.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:29:35.000 And the question is, do I consider Nick Fuentes to be white?

02:29:38.000 That's a good question.

02:29:39.000 It is a good question.

02:29:40.000 Go with the funny answer.

02:29:42.000 Go with the funny answer.

02:29:43.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:29:44.000 I mean, those are the funny, that's the question you should have asked. 0.90

02:29:46.000 He's an off-white supremacist. 0.99

02:29:47.000 An off-white supremacist. 1.00

02:29:49.000 They call it eggshell. 0.99

02:29:50.000 Eggshell supremacist. 0.81

02:29:51.000 Merck, did you want to add anything or shout anything out?

02:29:54.000 No, thanks for taking my question.

02:29:55.000 I appreciate it.

02:29:56.000 I appreciate it.

02:29:57.000 Thank you for calling in.

02:29:59.000 All right, next up we have loafers.

02:30:01.000 What's going on?

02:30:03.000 Hello, everyone.

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