Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 09, 2024


FEMA Ordered NOT To Help Trump Supporters After Hurricane Milton w-Matt Walsh | Timcast IRL


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 5 minutes

Words per Minute

197.71983

Word Count

24,771

Sentence Count

2,062

Misogynist Sentences

35

Hate Speech Sentences

67


Summary

A FEMA official ordered relief workers to skip houses that were advocating for Donald Trump. This is taxpayer funded relief for people in a largely Republican area, largely Trump-supporting area. Plus, special counsel Jack Smith is dropping the charges and being ordered to preserve his records.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:00:11.000 A FEMA official ordered relief workers to skip houses that were advocating for Donald Trump.
00:00:18.000 This is taxpayer dollars and Hurricane Milton relief for people in a largely Republican area, largely Trump-supporting area, were not getting the aid they need.
00:00:27.000 Because officials said, do not help Trump supporters.
00:00:30.000 I mean, that is just massive.
00:00:33.000 And it's kind of crazy when you hear about this sooner, but we're hearing about it now.
00:00:36.000 And the response from a lot of people is, Donald Trump, whatever his mandate was, he needs to take extremely seriously.
00:00:43.000 And we're going to need real accountability because we got to get to the bottom of things like this.
00:00:47.000 We'll talk about that.
00:00:47.000 Plus, special counsel Jack Smith is dropping the charges.
00:00:51.000 And being ordered to preserve his records.
00:00:54.000 So let's talk about what this means, what accountability is.
00:00:57.000 We'll get into all that stuff.
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00:02:54.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Matt Walsh.
00:02:59.000 Great to be here.
00:02:59.000 It's strange to be here doing your show and I could just walk next door from my office.
00:03:04.000 Usually I have to hike on horseback through the mountains for 14 hours to get to your studio, so this is kind of nice.
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00:03:38.000 I was like chained to the freaking chair.
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00:03:41.000 Wow.
00:03:42.000 Oh man, Daily Wire, old slave drivers over there.
00:03:44.000 Yeah, we have the Daily Wire expose going on here.
00:03:46.000 I mean, the stories I could tell.
00:03:48.000 Ah, yes, yes.
00:03:49.000 If only we weren't here.
00:03:50.000 If only.
00:03:51.000 Well, it's going to be fun, man.
00:03:52.000 Thanks for hanging out.
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00:04:51.000 Hey, everybody.
00:04:52.000 What's up?
00:04:52.000 My name is Elad Eliyahu.
00:04:53.000 I'm a journalist here at TimCast.
00:04:55.000 Excited to get into the news today.
00:04:56.000 Phil, what's up?
00:04:57.000 Hello, everybody.
00:04:58.000 My name is Phil Labonte.
00:04:59.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains, and I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
00:05:04.000 So let's go.
00:05:05.000 Here's the story from the Daily Wire exclusive.
00:05:07.000 FEMA official ordered relief workers to skip houses with Trump signs.
00:05:12.000 Whistleblower.
00:05:12.000 It's almost unbelievable to think that somebody in the federal government would think that's okay.
00:05:18.000 Now, this is crazy.
00:05:19.000 A federal disaster relief official ordered workers to bypass the homes of Trump supporters as they surveyed damage caused by Hurricane Milton in Florida, according to internal correspondence obtained by the Daily Wire and confirmed by multiple federal employees.
00:05:32.000 A FEMA supervisor told workers in a message to avoid homes advertising Trump as they canvassed Lake Placid, Florida, to identify residents who could qualify for federal aid.
00:05:41.000 Internal messages viewed by the Daily Wire reveal the supervisor...
00:05:45.000 Marnie Washington relayed this message both verbally and in a group chat used by the relief team.
00:05:50.000 Multiple government employees told the Daily Wire.
00:05:52.000 The government employees told the Daily Wire that at least 20 homes with Trump signs or flags were skipped from the end of October and into November due to the guidance, meaning they were not given the opportunity to qualify for FEMA assistance.
00:06:03.000 Images shared with the Daily Wire show that houses were skipped over by the workers who wrote in the government system message such as, Trump sign no entry per leadership.
00:06:11.000 Take a look at this.
00:06:12.000 It says, implement best practices, avoid Holmes advertising Trump.
00:06:18.000 And apparently this is this is going down only a few days before the election.
00:06:22.000 Yeah, I wonder if they're going to come up with some kind of rationalization.
00:06:25.000 Like, people with Trump signs outside their homes are more likely to be unfriendly and own firearms, and we're afraid of them.
00:06:30.000 But regardless...
00:06:32.000 Whenever there's any kind of investigation, or if these people are punished as they should be, we're going to be told it's a political prosecution, that we live in some kind of banana republic.
00:06:42.000 Completely don't care.
00:06:44.000 Bro, do you think I care?
00:06:45.000 Do you think I'm saying it?
00:06:45.000 Because I'm like, we can't do this!
00:06:47.000 I don't want the liberals to be upset about our justice system!
00:06:49.000 They're upset anytime anyone's punished.
00:06:51.000 Already, our good friends the Krasensteins...
00:06:53.000 Are taking that statement from Trump's lawyer where he says if Leticia James keeps violating Trump's rights with lawfare, they will put her in jail.
00:07:00.000 And then he tweets, oh my god, oh heavens, this is fascism.
00:07:04.000 They warned us about it.
00:07:06.000 It's happening.
00:07:06.000 And all the liberals are like, we knew it, we knew it.
00:07:08.000 And it's just laughable.
00:07:10.000 Because anybody, you know they're liars.
00:07:12.000 They know they're liars.
00:07:14.000 They know, we know they're liars.
00:07:16.000 That's right.
00:07:16.000 The charges against Donald Trump have no underlying crime and literally make no sense.
00:07:22.000 And they should be investigated by the DOJ, but now liberals are acting like that's Trump being a fascist.
00:07:28.000 Yeah, but in this case, first of all, this violates like a dozen laws to withhold federal aid from people based on their politics.
00:07:36.000 That's so illegal.
00:07:38.000 It's illegal on so many different levels that obviously, and I know that FEMA has said, I think in their statement, they said that they've identified the person, and they didn't even quite say they fired them.
00:07:48.000 They said that they're no longer in that position or something.
00:07:52.000 But that's not enough, obviously.
00:07:53.000 We need a prosecution.
00:07:55.000 The thing about this, when you see...
00:07:56.000 Jail, obviously.
00:07:58.000 And when you see the story, it's like, they're so flagrant.
00:08:03.000 Like, if I had...
00:08:05.000 I've seen this headline, and it wasn't from the Daily Wire.
00:08:07.000 I don't know if I would believe it at first, and not because I doubt that the federal government would do this.
00:08:13.000 It's only because it's so on the nose, and it's so blatant.
00:08:17.000 And then, of course, it's from the Daily Wire, so I'm like, well, of course, I know that Daily Wire is trustworthy, and it's been confirmed by FEMA. But it is shocking.
00:08:25.000 Again, not that they did it, but that they put it in writing.
00:08:28.000 That they would just write that down and say, yep, skip the Trump houses, because they think they could just do whatever they want, and there will be no accountability at all.
00:08:38.000 So just think about that.
00:08:39.000 You have to keep in mind, these are federal workers under Biden's administration, assuming also, all of these workers were assuming...
00:08:46.000 That Kamala would win.
00:08:48.000 And so they thought, there's just no way this will ever come out.
00:08:51.000 And so we can do whatever the hell we want.
00:08:52.000 And we can tell people we're doing it and put it in writing.
00:08:54.000 It's so flagrant and blatant.
00:08:57.000 Real quick, once they would skip it, they would write down in their surveys, not able to access property.
00:09:03.000 Wow.
00:09:03.000 That's crazy.
00:09:04.000 Just deny it.
00:09:06.000 Obviously, none of us here are surprised.
00:09:08.000 Obviously, this is something that is honest.
00:09:11.000 It's standard.
00:09:12.000 It's something that is expected ever since Lois Lerner and the IRS scandal, which is over 10 years ago now.
00:09:19.000 I don't know actually exactly when it was happening, but Barack Obama was president.
00:09:25.000 I think it was around 2012-13 or something like that when it was going on.
00:09:29.000 But this is just the norm.
00:09:31.000 That's right.
00:09:32.000 The idea that there's not political persecution, there's not bias from Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C. was 95% for Kamala Harris.
00:09:43.000 95%.
00:09:44.000 That is not representative of the United States.
00:09:46.000 That is representative of a uniparty.
00:09:49.000 And when you say uniparty, people look at you as if you're some kind of...
00:09:54.000 You're some kind of extremist or some kind of crazy person.
00:09:57.000 It is purely ideological in DC and the entire town needs to be gutted.
00:10:03.000 Everybody needs to lose their job.
00:10:05.000 I'm completely fine with shutting the whole government down and restructuring it all.
00:10:14.000 Maybe you get 25% of what's there actually.
00:10:17.000 The VEC wanted to fire, I think, half the federal government.
00:10:19.000 Wouldn't it be wonderful?
00:10:20.000 Which is a great start.
00:10:22.000 This also, by the way, this story really sheds light on...
00:10:27.000 We know what happened in Florida.
00:10:29.000 Well, we also know what happened in North Carolina.
00:10:31.000 to us peons and peasants.
00:10:33.000 It seemed as though the federal government just abandoned these people, many of them in the redder parts of, you know, Asheville's very liberal, but the surrounding county's very red part of North Carolina.
00:10:45.000 And it seemed like from the outside that they were just being abandoned to drown.
00:10:49.000 And you had to wonder if that was politically motivated.
00:10:52.000 Of course, the media said, well, how dare you even suggest such a thing?
00:10:54.000 And now we see this, and now I have to wonder, you know, is there some directive from some FEMA official somewhere saying, Yeah, leave North Carolina alone.
00:11:02.000 They'll be fine.
00:11:02.000 They're Trump supporters.
00:11:03.000 I mean, it wouldn't shock me.
00:11:04.000 This is how the left has operated historically.
00:11:06.000 You look at the whole of the more and the entire argument was there just happened to be this famine in Ukraine.
00:11:09.000 And even though they were exporting grain while everyone there was starving to death, this was not politically targeted.
00:11:14.000 We weren't trying to kill our political enemies.
00:11:15.000 What the left basically always does is they deprive basic necessities that they've been in charge of or placed in charge of giving to people from them.
00:11:22.000 And it's always a coincidence.
00:11:23.000 There's always some reason that it just happens to be the case that their political enemies are being punished.
00:11:27.000 Matt, you made a point earlier where you said if you didn't read this from the Daily Wire, you wouldn't have believed it at first.
00:11:33.000 And this is a massive messaging problem for the right, because as you pointed out, Phil, people are afraid of being called crazy.
00:11:38.000 The left has done such a good job poisoning the well against...
00:11:42.000 Bluntly describing the things that they're doing.
00:11:45.000 And when you go to people and you just describe things that left-wing politicians and pundits have said, as well as the actual party platform of the Democratic Party, people will regard you like a crazy person.
00:11:56.000 I mean, Kamala Harris literally said she wanted to fund sex change operations for illegal aliens.
00:12:02.000 And I understand why people hear that and they don't want to believe it because that sounds like something that the Simpsons would put in a Fox News headline in an episode they made 10 years ago.
00:12:12.000 This is, to your point, that's exactly right.
00:12:14.000 The left will hear this story, and they will say, oh, this is not that big of a deal.
00:12:22.000 You know, that was one person, and they'll minimize it as much as they can, even though this is one step away from literally not helping people in the middle of an emergency.
00:12:33.000 It's like they're not going to houses to offer aid.
00:12:36.000 It's one step away from saying, don't go to that house while it's actually raining and while the floodwaters are going up.
00:12:43.000 It's one step away from that.
00:12:44.000 And that is one step away from things like the Hall of Demore.
00:12:47.000 It's the same impulse.
00:12:49.000 Keep in mind, just to go back to the point about how flagrant this is, which again is the only thing that makes it That gives you pause at first.
00:12:58.000 They're that blatant about it?
00:13:00.000 So the fact that that blatant tells you something about the culture in FEMA, which is not a surprise.
00:13:06.000 But if you have one official who's willing, again, to put this in writing, not just that they set it off the record in some meeting, but they put it in writing, then that tells you something about the culture there.
00:13:17.000 It tells you that this official felt...
00:13:20.000 Obviously, if FEMA is filled with people like us, by that I mean just like normal common sense people, even if you are a far left FEMA official, you wouldn't put that in writing because you'd be worried about this exact thing happening.
00:13:31.000 So they obviously are in an environment where they know they're around like-minded people.
00:13:36.000 I think we can assume that there's a lot of this kind of thing going on.
00:13:38.000 And so to them, it was no big deal to put it in writing.
00:13:41.000 General Flynn said this morning on the Culture War podcast that we all dodged a bullet with this election.
00:13:47.000 And then you see a story like this, and I want to stress, In a situation like a hurricane, where people are in need of disaster relief, this aid could be life and death.
00:13:56.000 In this area in Florida, I expect there's probably a lot of elderly who are in desperate need.
00:14:01.000 This is, as Phil was saying, one degree away, but this is...
00:14:05.000 This is them saying they're okay with you dying in a disaster.
00:14:08.000 They will not provide you the relief that you deserve as a citizen of this country as a taxpayer because they don't like your worldview.
00:14:14.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:14:15.000 And there's never going to be any accountability for this, and there certainly won't be any accountability for eroding trust in American institutions.
00:14:20.000 The fact that this is true should and will do more damage to American trust in federal agencies than a million January 6th could have.
00:14:31.000 You get my point.
00:14:33.000 A figure will come along and point out the lies and hypocrisy of the media and of the ruling class, and it's always made out to seem as if this person just pulled it out of nowhere and they hypnotized everybody.
00:14:43.000 Everyone loved the media, and then Donald Trump came along, and he convinced people not to like them anymore.
00:14:48.000 People loved the government, but then people like Ron Paul came along and started convincing them not to.
00:14:52.000 I mean, the reality is the federal government hates us as people.
00:14:55.000 They hate our way of life.
00:14:56.000 They detest normal people, and they don't care when you die.
00:14:58.000 And they're in charge of ensuring you live.
00:14:59.000 And by the way, the federal government spends, what, between $15 and $19 billion?
00:15:03.000 I believe it's closer to $19 billion every single day.
00:15:05.000 They're capable of providing basic disaster relief.
00:15:08.000 When they weren't doing that, I think it should have been apparent enough that it was intentional.
00:15:11.000 I think this is very obviously extremely disgusting.
00:15:14.000 What stands out to me is this is FEMA, the organization is FEMA, and they're supposed to, like, you join FEMA because you want to help people and you want to help others.
00:15:21.000 And to think that you'll just pass over people during a hurricane or what have you during a natural disaster like this is so disgusting.
00:15:28.000 It's so outrageous that even the workers, in a quote here from the Daily Wire article, by the way, the guy who broke this story, Leif Lamahu, Did a great job here.
00:15:38.000 But the worker said, I thought we could go help and make a difference.
00:15:41.000 When we got there, we were told to discriminate against people.
00:15:44.000 It's almost unbelievable to think that somebody in the federal government would think that's okay.
00:15:48.000 I'm glad there's at least somebody in FEMA who saw what was going on and thinking, what the hell are we doing?
00:15:53.000 Yeah, I don't know if you guys saw the, I mean, if you guys covered the video a few weeks ago of the, I don't think it was FEMA, but they were federal disaster workers who were working on moving some logs from one part of the yard to the other part of the yard.
00:16:10.000 It's like a dozen people, one guy handing a log to another guy over the course of like 15 feet.
00:16:15.000 A human chain, 20 people moving a 10-pound log 20 feet.
00:16:19.000 But this is what happens.
00:16:22.000 You've got these federal agencies that are full of people, most of whom have really nothing to do.
00:16:26.000 There's too many of them.
00:16:27.000 They're just always justifying their jobs.
00:16:30.000 And they're also blatantly politically partisan.
00:16:32.000 So it's no surprise when this happens.
00:16:34.000 There's hope.
00:16:35.000 I mean, thank God that Trump got elected.
00:16:38.000 And if we're lucky, then Elon Musk will actually be put in a position to do real cuts on the government.
00:16:47.000 I mean, everyone knows he walked into Twitter and cut the personnel by like 80% or something like that.
00:16:52.000 And there were a couple bumps and hiccups while they were getting used to having the new structure.
00:16:57.000 But now it works the same.
00:16:59.000 It's perfectly fine.
00:17:00.000 So hopefully, if we're lucky, he will get into a position to be able to actually do something.
00:17:06.000 And there won't be too much obstructionism from Congress or whatever.
00:17:09.000 Because I know that there are a lot of positions that take an act of Congress to actually get rid of.
00:17:14.000 But there's a lot you can do with the purse strings.
00:17:17.000 And by cutting funding and by telling from the executive saying, don't do this.
00:17:22.000 Your priority isn't this.
00:17:23.000 That's what Obama did for a lot of things.
00:17:26.000 He would say, I think it was the dreamer.
00:17:31.000 No, I'm not sure if it was dreamers.
00:17:32.000 But there was some policy that Barack Obama said, don't worry about enforcing this.
00:17:37.000 Do these other things.
00:17:38.000 These are the priorities.
00:17:39.000 This act of Congress, we're not going to worry about.
00:17:41.000 And if Obama can do it, then President Trump can do it as well.
00:17:45.000 Well, every president's...
00:17:47.000 This is one of the dirty little secrets about Trump as they were trying to paint him to be Hitler.
00:17:52.000 And one of the reasons why that narrative never caught on is that not only was he not a fascist dictator, but he was probably the most restrained president we've had in like a century.
00:18:01.000 And he was very reluctant to wield executive power, I think almost to a fault.
00:18:06.000 I mean, if there was one great flaw in the first Trump administration, it's not that he was...
00:18:10.000 This fascist dictator who was drunk on his own power, but he was actually a little bit too, in my estimation, too hesitant to wield power.
00:18:18.000 He wanted to be liked too much.
00:18:19.000 Right.
00:18:20.000 He issued fewer executive orders than the three most recent presidents before him.
00:18:25.000 And I understand that.
00:18:26.000 We don't like executive orders generally.
00:18:29.000 You don't want to have to govern that way.
00:18:31.000 But it is going to require that.
00:18:32.000 If you actually want to drain the swamp, you're going to have to go in and wield executive power legally, but you're going to have to do it.
00:18:36.000 Yeah, well, I think one of the great lessons we can draw from this story and one of the kind of great shifts in ethos that Trump has represented in the Republican Party, if not something he's outright delivered on national political scale, is historically Republicans have seen government actors and the left in particular as good people who are misguided.
00:18:56.000 They've seen the government as inefficient but not necessarily malicious.
00:19:01.000 And I think Trump actually represents a kind of conservatism where people are willing to recognize this is malicious.
00:19:07.000 They are trying to kill people.
00:19:09.000 They are incredibly callous with respect to their concern for the lives of people they consider to be politically inconvenient.
00:19:15.000 It's good to see the American people finally starting to wake up to this.
00:19:18.000 I think the fact that Trump was elected is a great sign that people still recognize this, and it's a winning strategy for Republicans to point that out and be clear about that instead of saying, I think my opponent is a good and decent man.
00:19:31.000 Let's jump to the story from CNN. DOJ announces charges in Iranian plot to kill Donald Trump.
00:19:38.000 The Justice Department on Friday announced federal charges in a thwarted Iranian plot to kill Trump before the election.
00:19:44.000 According to court documents, Iranian officials asked Farhad Shaqari 51 in September to focus on surveilling and ultimately assassinating Trump.
00:19:51.000 Shaqari is still at large in Iran, the DOJ says.
00:19:54.000 It's a newly disclosed plot and marks yet another alleged attempt on Trump's life by the Iranian regime.
00:19:59.000 Prosecutors allege Shaqiri, who participated in recorded conversations with law enforcement, was originally tasked by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps to carrying out other assassinations against U.S. and Israeli citizens inside the U.S., but IRGC officials told Shaqiri on October 7th to focus only on Trump, court documents say.
00:20:16.000 He's an Afghan national residing in Tehran, told investigators that if he was unable to do, unable to do, come up with a plan in the time frame, come on, copy it, guys, that they would wait until after the election.
00:20:29.000 Now, this story seems a little bit absurd.
00:20:31.000 I mean, the guy's in Iran.
00:20:32.000 I don't know.
00:20:34.000 What is it?
00:20:34.000 They're charging a guy who they'll never get access to.
00:20:36.000 Soleimani was in Iran.
00:20:38.000 They dropped a bomb on him.
00:20:39.000 Soleimani was in Iraq.
00:20:41.000 Right.
00:20:42.000 There's somebody who's leading an active war against you and then criminally charging a guy who's in another country.
00:20:46.000 But I do get it.
00:20:47.000 The reason why I think this story is interesting is that there have been a lot of people who have come out and said, seems a little...
00:20:53.000 I don't know, calm.
00:20:54.000 Donald Trump wins.
00:20:56.000 There's no big shadow campaign.
00:20:57.000 It's just 1.30 a.m.
00:20:59.000 They say everything's okay.
00:21:01.000 Now, there's a lot of speculation from people that have been popping up in this podcast that they fear there may be an attempt on Donald Trump's life before he is actually inaugurated.
00:21:11.000 It's a certainty they will continue with the attempts, but...
00:21:14.000 Yeah, and you have to wonder, the Iranians wanted to kill Donald Trump.
00:21:19.000 Why is it that the bad guys all want to kill Donald Trump?
00:21:22.000 I think it tells you something good about his leadership style.
00:21:28.000 Look, this is unfortunately going to be an anxiety that we all have for the next four years, because we know that the Secret Service was not...
00:21:40.000 At the very least, they were not up to the task of protecting him the first time around.
00:21:45.000 And, you know, I don't think when you're president, you can hire your own personal security, your own private security on top of Secret Service, as far as I know.
00:21:51.000 So he's going to kind of be at their mercy.
00:21:55.000 Yeah, I want to give a big picture, a little quick talk about what's going on here and why all of this is going down.
00:22:01.000 Donald Trump was responsible for the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, who was the leader of the IRGC, generally thought to be number two in Iran.
00:22:09.000 And The IRGC and Islamic Guard and Islamic Republic in Iran has had it out for Donald Trump and his associates since then, including John Bolton and Mike Pompeo, including other Iranian activists in the United States.
00:22:22.000 They've been trying to target Donald Trump and many of his national security advisors and peers who worked in the administration As far as I see this, I think anybody who's plotting to kill the President of the United States or President-elect of the United States should be on borrowed time as far as the American military and intelligence agencies should go.
00:22:41.000 Well, I hope they protect Donald Trump.
00:22:43.000 And I'm kind of concerned, you know, I brought this up to somebody, we were talking earlier, and I said, what if something does happen to Donald Trump?
00:22:51.000 Well, we looked it up this morning.
00:22:52.000 The 20th Amendment says that if before the president's first term, the president-elect can make the first term, if they die for any reason, then the vice president-elect will become the president.
00:23:03.000 And then I was talking to someone, they said, yeah, but Trump and J.D. will be on a plane or something, who knows?
00:23:07.000 And I'm like, okay, maybe they shouldn't be in the same room together.
00:23:10.000 January 20th, they can come together, we get them inaugurated, but I mean this not in any way lightheartedly.
00:23:17.000 I am deeply concerned with the lives of Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and all of our politicians, even the ones I'm not quite fond of, because...
00:23:27.000 I hope this is not a calm before the storm, and right now, more than ever, we need serious protection for our political leaders.
00:23:33.000 I will say, one of the reasons for the calm that you're talking about, and we haven't seen, a lot of us were expecting if Trump won, we'd have rioting and that sort of thing.
00:23:41.000 It'd be, you know...
00:23:43.000 The 2020 riots all over again.
00:23:45.000 I think one of the reasons we're not saying that is that it was just such an overwhelming victory.
00:23:48.000 I think it's totally crushed the morale and spirit of his opponents.
00:23:53.000 And I'm sure they'll rally together at some point and get their energy back up.
00:23:57.000 But right now, I think it's just totally shell-shocked.
00:24:00.000 The other thing, too, is that...
00:24:02.000 One of the many reasons why some of us were quite happy with the J.D. Vance pick is that not only is he a really impressive guy in his own right, but frankly, as many of us were saying, he needs to pick a VP candidate who gives him assassination insurance so that...
00:24:20.000 Before someone could think about making an attempt on his life, they're going to have to think, they're going to also have to consider the fact, okay, well, if we take him out, then we're stuck with this guy.
00:24:26.000 And is that really going to be better for us?
00:24:28.000 And the answer is with J.D. Vance.
00:24:30.000 Now, if you put some establishment shill in there, somebody like that, then I think that really does put Trump in an even more precarious position.
00:24:39.000 So it still is, but, you know...
00:24:42.000 I think it's an interesting conversation to have, because if you're the Iranians, I'm sure you prefer J.D. Vance, who is known to be more of an isolationist than Donald Trump was.
00:24:49.000 Not that...
00:24:50.000 I'm sure J.D. Vance would declare war in Iran if they did assassinate Donald Trump, but I think the Iranians would be more scared of pulling anything on Donald Trump if Nikki Haley were the VP, because they know exactly what she wants to do with them.
00:25:01.000 I want to say this.
00:25:02.000 We had two libertarians on this show.
00:25:05.000 We had Clint Russell and Josie the Redhead Libertarian, who both agreed when I said, if Iran...
00:25:10.000 We're to take the life of Donald Trump.
00:25:12.000 We have no choice but to declare war on them.
00:25:15.000 Would you agree?
00:25:15.000 You would agree.
00:25:16.000 Absolutely right.
00:25:16.000 If they kill your president.
00:25:18.000 Right.
00:25:18.000 I mean, you don't have a country if you let foreign enemy nations kill your president.
00:25:22.000 But what's the question if they are trying and making an effort to how should we react?
00:25:25.000 And that's still a really great question because there's got to be some action.
00:25:30.000 I'm skeptical of literally everything we hear from our foreign policy establishment.
00:25:33.000 I do believe we should also take a grain of salt with all of these reports.
00:25:38.000 You know, this could obviously spark tensions and we've been misled by the media.
00:25:42.000 I do believe Iran is a serious threat, but we should still be hyper-cognizant of the reports coming out.
00:25:49.000 And obviously we have to take threats like this very seriously.
00:25:51.000 And yes, I mean, God forbid if a foreign adversary kills your president.
00:25:56.000 I'm as isolationist as they come, but there are reasons to go to war.
00:25:59.000 That would be one of them.
00:26:00.000 But I'm more worried about, I mean, as big a concern as that is, I'm more worried about Yeah.
00:26:11.000 among our citizens against trump now we know that trump just wanted an overwhelming victory so most americans voted for him and are in favor of him but look the media has been saying for eight years now and they're only going to ramp it up that this guy is adolf hitler and the thing is as many people pointed out when you when you call somebody hitler when you say that he's a fascist dictator and he's hitler and he wants to destroy democracy you are actually directly calling for his assassination
00:26:35.000 You might not be saying it because you can't say it, but if Hitler was actually alive today, we would all agree that you're justified in taking out Hitler.
00:26:44.000 It's a wink and a nod, right?
00:26:45.000 Oh, he's Hitler.
00:26:46.000 You know what to do.
00:26:46.000 And I put it this way, there is a thought experiment about traveling back in time and killing the baby Hitler.
00:26:52.000 And the question is, it's a philosophical and moral question about taking the life of a baby who has done nothing wrong, but you know his future and what he becomes.
00:27:00.000 The point is...
00:27:02.000 You could be an 18-year-old in college and they're asking you about whether it's morally right or wrong or what are the morals of taking the life of a baby.
00:27:08.000 And I get it.
00:27:10.000 It's baby Hitler.
00:27:11.000 But they're saying that there is an element of the population that is okay with taking the life of Hitler.
00:27:16.000 Then they call Trump Hitler.
00:27:18.000 That's exactly what they're trying to do.
00:27:19.000 And this isn't even...
00:27:20.000 I guess there's an interesting philosophical debate about whether it's okay to kill baby Hitler, but everybody agrees about adult Hitler.
00:27:27.000 It's okay to kill adult Hitler.
00:27:29.000 I think what Seamus and Matt don't understand is that these planned parent activists are from the future, and they're coming back in time.
00:27:38.000 I really want to make this point.
00:27:39.000 What I was going to say is they don't need the baby to be Hitler to want to kill them.
00:27:44.000 But I just want to make this extra point.
00:27:46.000 This ties into the Daily Wire.
00:27:48.000 A few years ago at the March for Life, there was a controversy because Ben Shapiro brought up the Baby Hitler philosophical question.
00:27:54.000 He's like, well, the answer is you don't kill Baby Hitler.
00:27:55.000 Who is Baby Hitler?
00:27:56.000 Who is Baby?
00:27:56.000 And a toothpaste brand that was sponsoring the video pulled their sponsorship from that, which means a toothpaste company has an official stance on the philosophical question of whether you killed Baby Hitler.
00:28:08.000 Do you abort Baby Hitler?
00:28:10.000 Matt, you're...
00:28:11.000 This goes back to the previous story as well.
00:28:15.000 If FEMA isn't doing things for Trump supporters, and we've seen two attempts on President Trump's life.
00:28:24.000 One was clearly because the Secret Service wasn't doing their job.
00:28:28.000 This speaks to the fact that it's likely that that will happen in the future, at least leading up until Trump can get into office and hopefully clear some people out of the Secret Service and get competent people in, or people that aren't ideologically possessed.
00:28:44.000 And because the fact is that on the left, and this is not true of every single person who identifies themselves as on the left, but...
00:28:52.000 On the sort of radical, far political left, they really truly believe that if you are their political enemy, then you don't deserve to live.
00:29:02.000 Your life is not worth living.
00:29:03.000 They honest to God believe that.
00:29:05.000 And that's what they believe about Trump.
00:29:07.000 I mean, I made a joke about Project 2025 on Twitter.
00:29:07.000 That's what they believe about...
00:29:12.000 Which I sometimes do.
00:29:14.000 We do a little trolling, folks.
00:29:16.000 And I get all the...
00:29:18.000 We're used to it on the internet.
00:29:19.000 But all these comments are people saying, I'm going to find you and kill you.
00:29:23.000 I want you to die.
00:29:23.000 I'm going to find you.
00:29:25.000 You deserve to be tortured and killed.
00:29:26.000 I want to do it myself.
00:29:27.000 It's like someone said something like that.
00:29:29.000 And it's just...
00:29:30.000 It's normal.
00:29:31.000 We're used to that, but we should actually be used to that.
00:29:33.000 That shouldn't be a normal response to someone that you don't agree with making a joke.
00:29:37.000 I want to pull up this year's Google search because there's way too many stories to choose from.
00:29:42.000 Here's from The Advocate.
00:29:43.000 Project 2025 is real and coming, says Trumper Matt Walsh.
00:29:47.000 MAGA says Project 2025 is the agenda, Matt Walsh.
00:29:50.000 Rolling Stone Republicans celebrate by admitting they can't wait for Project 2025.
00:29:54.000 Newsweek I'm sorry, what do we have?
00:29:56.000 Mother Jones, after when Trump fans admit Project 2025 is the agenda, the independent MAGA allies say they can finally admit Project 2025.
00:30:04.000 Axios, I mean, these are supposed to be serious news organizations, and they saw a joke from Matt Walsh and decided it is the biggest story, it's true, and run with it.
00:30:14.000 And not only that, but I'm not even, I'm not a Trump official.
00:30:18.000 I'm not going to be in the cabinet.
00:30:20.000 I would love to be in the cabinet.
00:30:21.000 I mean, call me up, I'll take the job, whatever it is.
00:30:24.000 But the fact that you can make an article over some podcaster who's just rambling and joking around is the most absurd thing about it.
00:30:35.000 I mean, it's like...
00:30:36.000 And it's not just that you're not a Trump official, it's that you are somebody who has now made two documentaries where you're trolling people, and in your profile picture on Twitter, you are dressed as the character you troll people as, and somebody saw a tweet from you which was an obvious troll, and they took the bait and wrote articles about it.
00:30:58.000 Yeah, it is amazing, but also on the left, they just lost their ability to detect irony.
00:31:04.000 They had the ability to detect irony?
00:31:06.000 I mean, I assume at some point in the past they did.
00:31:08.000 I've got to be honest, they want to be victims.
00:31:11.000 No, no, no, I don't think they do.
00:31:13.000 I do think there's an element of the media that says, hey, I know he didn't mean it, he's joking, but we can run the story because you can't sue for defamation because everybody really said it.
00:31:21.000 I genuinely believe...
00:31:23.000 There's a natural filtration process happening over the past 10 years for people who lack the mental capacity to understand humor and think beyond one dimension.
00:31:34.000 Well, that'll happen.
00:31:35.000 I will sometimes have people try to fact-check my cartoons.
00:31:38.000 It's like, okay.
00:31:40.000 Right.
00:31:41.000 Can we see the tweet?
00:31:41.000 I tweeted that Kamala Harris was Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini combined, and she was going to send Trumpers to camps and start 800 new wars.
00:31:50.000 And a bunch of articles got written being like, Tim Pool thinks Kamala Harris is going to be like, I was literally satiring you!
00:31:59.000 But their brains are just made of jello.
00:32:01.000 Some of it is internet, too.
00:32:05.000 It's not all on the left.
00:32:06.000 Some of it is on the internet.
00:32:07.000 It's a thing where people...
00:32:09.000 They just pretend they've never heard of the concept of hyperbole.
00:32:14.000 Comedic hyperbole is a really common...
00:32:17.000 Device that people use in their everyday lives.
00:32:19.000 Even something like, I'm starving.
00:32:21.000 It's like, no one thinks that you're actually claiming that you're starving to death.
00:32:24.000 You're just saying that you're really hungry.
00:32:25.000 And this happens to me all the time.
00:32:28.000 I'll say something like, you know, whatever.
00:32:31.000 People who drink raw milk should go to jail or something like that.
00:32:34.000 The anime one's funny.
00:32:35.000 And then you have a three-day outrage cycle.
00:32:37.000 People on the right, too, pretending that they don't understand that you're intentionally exaggerating just to be funny.
00:32:43.000 One of my favorites was J.D. Vance was talking in some interview and he said, look, you know, my two sons eat like a dozen eggs a day, right?
00:32:50.000 And so when you're a family and you're going to the grocery store and then some journalists wrote...
00:32:55.000 There is no way that J.D. Vance's children are eating like 144 eggs per week.
00:33:00.000 That's ridiculous.
00:33:02.000 And then he was just like, are you kidding me?
00:33:04.000 It's like fact check.
00:33:06.000 I'm so hungry I could eat a horse.
00:33:08.000 Fact check.
00:33:08.000 He did not in fact want to eat a horse.
00:33:10.000 It's like fact check.
00:33:10.000 J.D. Vance's children do not get taller every time their grandmother sees them.
00:33:16.000 People say things sometimes.
00:33:18.000 Well, technically they do get taller each time.
00:33:19.000 That's true, actually, but probably not notably.
00:33:22.000 Missing context, while it is true that they technically get taller, it would not be possible to notice.
00:33:26.000 I think the media industry attracts low IQ people.
00:33:30.000 Having worked in some of these offices in New York and in the corporate press, I would find that only a small handful of the people who worked there actually had 100 or above IQs.
00:33:43.000 And I know this because I actually physically administered the test.
00:33:46.000 No, I have no idea.
00:33:48.000 I met so many of these young people who are just like, when you talk to them, it was as if it was a phone dial tone.
00:33:54.000 It was just, they're staring at you.
00:33:55.000 You know, there's this thing for some of these people where they're looking at you, but they're looking through you.
00:34:01.000 Yeah.
00:34:01.000 Like, you can tell, like, your eyes are not focused on me.
00:34:03.000 And I'm like, is there anything in there?
00:34:04.000 Is anybody home?
00:34:05.000 And they're the worst kinds of dumb people.
00:34:06.000 Well, I think this is kind of the definition of a midwit, where they're not...
00:34:13.000 They're above room temperature in their IQ, but they're definitely not smart, but they think they're smart.
00:34:19.000 So they're pretty dumb, but they think they're really smart.
00:34:21.000 And that's all the media.
00:34:22.000 I mean, there's been all this conversation in the media after the election about how Trump's voters are uneducated because they didn't go to college.
00:34:31.000 And so you get all these pompous people with college degrees saying, well, you guys aren't educated.
00:34:36.000 You're not as smart as me.
00:34:37.000 And of course, it's like...
00:34:39.000 And this is part of it.
00:34:40.000 You can be a very dumb person these days and have not just a college degree, but have a PhD.
00:34:48.000 That's true.
00:34:48.000 You could have gone to 10 years of post-high school education and actually be barely above 100 with your IQ. And so that's one of the reasons why these people are so confident of their own intelligence, I think.
00:35:03.000 And then, I mean, even the ones who get advanced degrees in fields that have traditionally been considered impressive will tell you that men can get pregnant.
00:35:11.000 I mean, it doesn't mean anything.
00:35:12.000 That's the funny thing, yeah.
00:35:13.000 So, following the election, the metric comes out that the blue states are all college-educated and the red states tend to not be college-educated.
00:35:22.000 And then you get these...
00:35:23.000 It's fascinating to me.
00:35:25.000 I love this because these liberals will respond to political positions I have with Tim never graduated high school.
00:35:33.000 And then they're like, oh, like for liberals, like, well, that settles it.
00:35:36.000 Tim didn't get a high school degree, therefore nothing he says has any merit.
00:35:40.000 That is indicative of impaired brain function.
00:35:44.000 And they view this world through, have you been approved by the establishment as acceptable?
00:35:51.000 Like, it's a form of credentialism.
00:35:54.000 You have to have state-sanctioned confirmation of thought.
00:35:59.000 And that's your degree, that's your diploma, and that proves you are capable regardless of your positions.
00:36:05.000 So when it comes to this podcasting thing, especially where they say, I love this, the article yesterday, or two days ago from Wired, where it said, The Manosphere won.
00:36:14.000 The left needs, it's like the left doesn't even have a Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, or so help us a Tim Pool.
00:36:19.000 And it's funny because, just like with Joe Rogan, they did.
00:36:22.000 Many of these former liberals are now sitting here voting for Donald Trump.
00:36:25.000 But these people's position is you are smart and acceptable if you march with us in lockstep, no matter what we say.
00:36:32.000 And I'm like, my guys, when you said we need a Joe Rogan, why don't Democrats have a Joe Rogan?
00:36:38.000 The response from people was you did.
00:36:40.000 His name was Joe Rogan.
00:36:41.000 The issue is the Democrats were crapping on the floor in front of everybody and telling us we had to accept it.
00:36:47.000 And when we said, please don't make this what the Democrats represent, they said you're far right.
00:36:51.000 You're a conservative.
00:36:51.000 And I said, I guess I am now, because I'm not okay with taking a dump on the floor.
00:36:55.000 The thing about the Joe Rogan thing, too, is really funny to me, because they don't understand at all.
00:37:01.000 This is why they'll never have their own Joe Rogan, is they just don't understand at all why he's popular or how he got to the place that he is.
00:37:11.000 And he didn't get there by being known as this Republican guy who's making Republican points.
00:37:17.000 Like many people, I started listening to Joe Rogan, certainly at first, because he'd have on whatever, like archaeologists, and they would talk about that for three and a half hours.
00:37:26.000 It's the stuff that had nothing to do with politics that made him super popular.
00:37:30.000 And then from there, he started getting in a little bit more to politics, but even now, not all that much.
00:37:35.000 Yeah.
00:37:35.000 And this is the problem.
00:37:36.000 So on the left, if they tried to do their own Joe Rogan, it would just be some leftist droning on about leftist policy for three and a half hours.
00:37:45.000 That's just not a Democrat answer to Joe Rogan.
00:37:48.000 And the issue is the amorphous nature of what is acceptable on the left.
00:37:53.000 So, I can sit here and be like, here are my beliefs, here are my values, here's what I want, here's what I don't want.
00:37:57.000 And they will stay true, for the most part, until someone presents me with a good argument, and we'll have the discussion and the debate, and I might say, you know what, I'll consider it.
00:38:03.000 That's interesting.
00:38:04.000 The left is just like, well, today, wimmickson is the new word, and then the next day they're like, actually, it's offensive because it's exclusionary, and they go, okay, now we're not going to say wimmickson, now it's women with a Y. You can't be a Joe Rogan.
00:38:16.000 Because you'd have to have a list of all the things you can or can't say updated every day by the Democratic Party.
00:38:20.000 That's exactly right.
00:38:21.000 And also, it seems really insulting to a lot of their media personalities to say this, right?
00:38:27.000 Like, we don't have our own Steven Crowder.
00:38:28.000 What about Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert?
00:38:30.000 Like, just because they're not good doesn't mean they're not your attempt.
00:38:34.000 That's what they're saying, though.
00:38:35.000 What they're saying is they don't have the influence.
00:38:38.000 Well, they don't have the influence.
00:38:40.000 And the reason they don't have the influence is because they're woke scolds.
00:38:43.000 They're telling people what they must say, what they must think.
00:38:46.000 And as soon as you do something interesting, like have an opposing view or anything like that, anything approaching an opposing view, they excommunicate you.
00:38:57.000 This is what I talk about all the time on the left, that they are now making the mistake, especially when it comes to entertainment.
00:39:02.000 You mentioned Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert are perfect examples of this.
00:39:06.000 They are now making the mistake that for so long conservatives, and particularly Christian media and entertainment, made.
00:39:13.000 Which is that the only thing that matters is the message.
00:39:16.000 The whole thing is just the message.
00:39:18.000 And so you'll have Jimmy Kimmel, who will get up and he'll give what's supposed to be a comedy monologue, but it's just 10 minutes of him crying because he lost the election.
00:39:27.000 And it's just like, your job is to be funny.
00:39:30.000 And so if you want to have influence, Jimmy Kimmel...
00:39:34.000 You actually want to influence people towards your point of view, then you should come out and just be funny.
00:39:39.000 And you sprinkle in the politics here and there.
00:39:43.000 And it's the thing, the left for so long, they were very good at this.
00:39:46.000 They were very good at influencing the culture, influencing people, because they were good comedians, they were good artists, they made good films, they made good shows.
00:39:55.000 and they didn't lead with the message.
00:39:57.000 They led with the story.
00:39:58.000 They led with the joke, and they would sprinkle in the politics here and there.
00:40:01.000 They'd make it a little bit subtle, so they were just kind of gradually moving you towards their values without you noticing it.
00:40:06.000 And now it's kind of, and then you had the Christian answer, which was always just, well, we're going to do this movie, and the acting's terrible, the writing's terrible, everything's terrible, but it's a really good sermon, and they're talking about loving Jesus.
00:40:19.000 Right.
00:40:20.000 And now this interesting shift is happening where the left is making that mistake and the right is figuring out how to not really lead with the message, just be interesting, be funny.
00:40:30.000 I mean, Joe Rogan is just an interesting guy.
00:40:32.000 Sprinkles in the politics here and there.
00:40:34.000 And that's how you have actual...
00:40:36.000 And they call them alt-right.
00:40:38.000 Yeah.
00:40:39.000 No one is just on the right.
00:40:41.000 As soon as you cross over that line, you're a Nazi.
00:40:44.000 You're far right.
00:40:45.000 There was a time when you used to have to be conservative to be considered far right.
00:40:48.000 As long as you're a center-left liberal, you're far right.
00:40:52.000 But I just want to make this point about culture.
00:40:54.000 At Freedom Tunes, whenever we make these cartoons, if we have an idea that's going to make fun of a Republican, or if we have a funny plan, a conservative idea, we're not like, oh, we can't do that because we need to win.
00:41:05.000 Like, you just...
00:41:05.000 Yeah.
00:41:06.000 You make fun of Trump all the time?
00:41:07.000 I make fun of Trump all the time.
00:41:08.000 I literally had...
00:41:10.000 Well, it happened in the video, but I had something happen to you in a video recently.
00:41:10.000 I don't know if I can...
00:41:14.000 We also did a video a while ago where...
00:41:14.000 Oh, right.
00:41:17.000 I, like, make fun of you a lot.
00:41:19.000 Yeah.
00:41:20.000 So, Seamus had a video where it's Fauci and Trump, and Fauci's testifying, and it starts with the Lord of the Rings scene where he was like, I was there the strength of...
00:41:20.000 Fauci...
00:41:29.000 I was there the day the strength of Trump failed, and then Fauci's like, cast it into the fire, Trump destroys the coronavirus.
00:41:34.000 Yeah, like...
00:41:34.000 And then Trump is like...
00:41:35.000 Well, I was gonna, but now that you've told me to, I won't do it.
00:41:37.000 And it's like, it's making fun of Trump and Fauci and everybody just for fun.
00:41:42.000 Well, and even like we did, I remember a while ago just doing a silly video where it was like, um, college student like totally owns Ben Shapiro and it's like a college student that was like the pronouns or whatever.
00:41:52.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:41:53.000 It's like, it's okay and it's actually good to make fun of people on your own side.
00:41:58.000 And it's good to even make fun of some of the ideas on your own side.
00:42:01.000 I think we see all of this stuff And it shows it's, I don't know, it's communism, right?
00:42:09.000 You can't defy the party line.
00:42:10.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:42:11.000 And so what do we see in communist countries?
00:42:13.000 You can't have jokes.
00:42:14.000 Jokes, not allowed.
00:42:15.000 You can't speak out in ways.
00:42:17.000 It's worker and parasite.
00:42:18.000 This is exactly what the left does.
00:42:20.000 If you come out and you make a joke, I mean, how many times have we seen some leftist personality make a joke and then they get attacked and they have to take their tweet down or take down their account or something like that or apologize?
00:42:31.000 Do you remember the Simpsons bit, Worker and Parasite?
00:42:33.000 When Krusty has to get rid of Vichy and Scratchy, he's like, it's an Eastern European cartoon!
00:42:37.000 It's Worker and Parasite, dude!
00:42:38.000 Oh, man.
00:42:40.000 Alright, well, I guess...
00:42:41.000 Yeah, yeah, dude, that's like the perfect...
00:42:43.000 Wasn't it like they lost the rights to...
00:42:46.000 It's like it's a Soviet version.
00:42:46.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:42:48.000 A cartoon called Worker and Parasite, yeah.
00:42:50.000 It perfectly encapsulates this.
00:42:52.000 It's not just...
00:42:53.000 You gotta toe the party line.
00:42:55.000 But it's not just that, well, you're not allowed to disagree with us.
00:42:58.000 It's also that everything you do has to be about what we believe.
00:43:05.000 So even if you do something and you say something that's apolitical, that's not taking anyone's side, they have a problem even with that.
00:43:13.000 I mean, they do this with their celebrities now.
00:43:15.000 This is the whole thing with Taylor Swift.
00:43:16.000 It's like they get mad at Taylor Swift because you're not being political enough.
00:43:19.000 Clearly, she's not a Trumper, but it's like, well, no, no, you have to agree with us, and you have to make everything about the fact that you agree with us.
00:43:30.000 To your point, and I said this a couple days ago, the reason that everybody had the backlash against Bezos when he wrote the op-ed...
00:43:38.000 When he said, we're not going to endorse.
00:43:41.000 He didn't come out and endorse Donald Trump.
00:43:43.000 Right.
00:43:43.000 But it was as if he did.
00:43:44.000 But the dissent cannot be tolerated.
00:43:47.000 It is a unified message, consistent on all fronts, in every single way.
00:43:53.000 If you step out of line, then not only do they say, oh, well, we disagree and we disavow that, they literally will excoriate you and cast you out as if you're...
00:44:03.000 As if you're a heretic.
00:44:05.000 And that doesn't make for a welcoming group of people that you want to hang out with.
00:44:11.000 It doesn't make for good comedy.
00:44:13.000 It doesn't make for good stories.
00:44:14.000 It doesn't make for good anything at all.
00:44:16.000 I think we should embrace the Project 2025 thing and just let them engage in their histrionics.
00:44:21.000 I think we should embrace Project 2025.
00:44:23.000 Because...
00:44:25.000 You know, General Flynn was saying this this morning.
00:44:27.000 You don't have four years.
00:44:28.000 You have 18 months.
00:44:30.000 That's right.
00:44:30.000 The midterms come up, and then six months out, all of the squishy Republicans are terrified to do anything.
00:44:34.000 So it needs to happen now.
00:44:36.000 That's right.
00:44:37.000 But I'll say this.
00:44:38.000 These stories going viral and going nuts, regular people are going, huh?
00:44:44.000 So let's do this.
00:44:45.000 Let me jump to this story.
00:44:46.000 I'm going to pull up this one from Postmillennial.
00:44:49.000 Check this out.
00:44:51.000 Morning Joe reveals he doesn't know the price of butter, realizes Trump won on the economy.
00:44:57.000 Check out this clip from...
00:44:59.000 I want to talk about economy for a second.
00:45:02.000 A few weeks ago, three weeks ago, somebody who was going to be voting for Kamala Harris came up to me and said, Oh my God, Trump's going to win.
00:45:11.000 I go, why is that?
00:45:12.000 He goes, I just...
00:45:13.000 I went to the grocery store.
00:45:14.000 Butter's over $3.
00:45:16.000 I kind of laughed and I said...
00:45:18.000 I said...
00:45:19.000 Well, that's kind of reductive, isn't it?
00:45:21.000 Said it to myself.
00:45:22.000 To him, I smiled and I said, good point.
00:45:25.000 But it actually, everything we're hearing after the election is...
00:45:30.000 I'm just saying, the seven.
00:45:32.000 What's that?
00:45:34.000 The seven dollars.
00:45:35.000 What's that?
00:45:36.000 Butter is seven dollars?
00:45:38.000 Yeah.
00:45:39.000 What, is it framed in gold?
00:45:42.000 Yeah, what kind of butter?
00:45:44.000 I don't know where you go.
00:45:46.000 Okay, well, yeah, okay.
00:45:48.000 Anyway, my point is this, Willie.
00:45:51.000 The rent is too damn high, and this guy was saying the cost of butter is way damn too high.
00:45:56.000 The funny thing about this, when he said that, what is it, framed in gold?
00:46:03.000 It's exposing one of the big reasons why they lost.
00:46:06.000 So, I don't think Project 2025 is going to move the needle with anybody.
00:46:10.000 What we have right here is the Federal Reserve, St.
00:46:13.000 Louis Fed, the average price of butter is $5.
00:46:17.000 This is nationwide, $5.
00:46:20.000 For a four-pack of butter.
00:46:22.000 That's insane.
00:46:23.000 He says about $3.
00:46:24.000 Micah says $7.
00:46:25.000 And he goes, $7?
00:46:26.000 What is it, framed in gold?
00:46:27.000 Yes.
00:46:28.000 That's exactly what your average middle-class, working-class guy thinks when he goes to the grocery store and he walks up and there's the unsalted butter that says $5.
00:46:36.000 And he goes, what is it, framed in gold?
00:46:37.000 Yeah.
00:46:38.000 They mock the working-class people on these shows.
00:46:41.000 I do.
00:46:42.000 I have to defend Joe Scarborough.
00:46:43.000 I rarely do.
00:46:44.000 I have to defend Joe Scarborough a little bit on this one.
00:46:46.000 Because I will say, I probably shouldn't be admitting this, but I totally...
00:46:49.000 I'm the same.
00:46:51.000 Every time I... Because I don't do the grocery shopping.
00:46:52.000 Exactly.
00:46:53.000 I don't do the grocery shopping.
00:46:54.000 Our whole marriage.
00:46:54.000 I never have.
00:46:55.000 Even going back to when we first got married and we were broke as hell.
00:46:59.000 So every time my wife goes grocery shopping, if I get a look at the receipt or if she mentions how much something costs, I'm like, that's not that much.
00:47:06.000 What are you talking?
00:47:07.000 What is it?
00:47:08.000 So some of that I think is a man...
00:47:12.000 Maybe it's just me.
00:47:13.000 I just can't absorb the cost of groceries.
00:47:16.000 I look at the prices.
00:47:16.000 I go grocery shopping.
00:47:17.000 Yeah, well, dude, under Project 2025, wives do the grocery shopping.
00:47:21.000 It's just how it is.
00:47:21.000 That's right.
00:47:23.000 I haven't done a full grocery shop for our family ever.
00:47:27.000 My wife does it.
00:47:28.000 Yeah, my wife does the grocery shopping too.
00:47:29.000 I also oversee when we're ordering drinks and snacks and other things for the office.
00:47:34.000 So I can see all the prices.
00:47:36.000 I can see them going up.
00:47:37.000 But...
00:47:38.000 That statement, what is it framed in gold?
00:47:41.000 Whether it's because he just has Micah.
00:47:44.000 Isn't he married to Micah?
00:47:45.000 I don't know, whatever.
00:47:45.000 Yeah, he's married to the co-host.
00:47:47.000 So she's telling him for exactly the reason.
00:47:49.000 That was his wife?
00:47:50.000 That's hilarious.
00:47:50.000 Yeah.
00:47:51.000 I was going to make that joke.
00:47:52.000 I was literally going to make that joke.
00:47:53.000 The woman on the panel is like, this is how much it costs.
00:47:56.000 Dear, I went to the grocery store with $7.
00:47:58.000 Well, I think they're in New York, right?
00:48:00.000 But the point is, when the Democrats are screeching about Project 2025, despite the fact it's just not happening and Matt made a joke about it, I say, yeah, let's encourage them to do that.
00:48:10.000 Meanwhile, regular working people are going to be like, why is butter five bucks?
00:48:14.000 Don't worry, we'll help you out there, buddy.
00:48:16.000 Yeah, I remember...
00:48:19.000 And you're right, people don't care about, obviously people don't care about Project 2025 because that was basically Akama's whole campaign and it failed.
00:48:25.000 Now I can remember watching, you know, on Sundays watching football and especially in the last like three or four weeks before the election and it's just constant political ads.
00:48:36.000 And a lot of Trump ads, you know, and obviously targeting men.
00:48:40.000 It's NFL Sunday.
00:48:41.000 And his ads were always...
00:48:43.000 It was always hitting the economy, to your point, Tim.
00:48:46.000 Also hitting the trans thing really hard.
00:48:49.000 Trump would hit those in the ads on the football ads.
00:48:53.000 Kamala...
00:48:54.000 I remember one of the ads she played on NFL Sunday watching football.
00:48:57.000 It was all about fear-mongering for Project 2025.
00:49:01.000 And I'm watching that and I'm thinking, like, what man who's watching football is going to see this ad?
00:49:06.000 It's like, oh, did you hear about Project 2025?
00:49:07.000 That sounds scary.
00:49:08.000 Like, nobody, even if you're on the left, you don't care about that.
00:49:12.000 No idea how to message these people.
00:49:13.000 That was their primary concern as the last couple weeks of the campaign.
00:49:19.000 They were like, oh my goodness, we're not getting men.
00:49:22.000 Men are turning away from us.
00:49:25.000 Why are they turning away?
00:49:28.000 How do we message to them?
00:49:30.000 And every attempt they made was as ham-fisted and ridiculous as you could possibly come up with.
00:49:36.000 And so I don't think that they're going to be successful at messaging to men for a long time because they didn't learn anything.
00:49:45.000 The whole thing is that...
00:49:48.000 Their whole take is that men are bad.
00:49:51.000 Exactly.
00:49:52.000 I saw this tweet from Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
00:49:55.000 today in Weiss at Harper's Ferry.
00:49:57.000 Lando Lakes is $6.50.
00:49:58.000 I just pulled up the website for our local grocery store.
00:50:02.000 Lando Lakes is $7.49.
00:50:04.000 Wow.
00:50:05.000 For four sticks of butter.
00:50:08.000 Well, no, but framed in gold, right?
00:50:09.000 To your point about the fact that a man watching football isn't going to go Project 2025.
00:50:13.000 I mean, pretty much every Democratic voter over the age of 35 I've ever spoken to, except for a small handful of Tim Walls-esque exceptions, aren't Democrats because they're like, oh, they're going to ban trash.
00:50:27.000 We have to bring our glitter to the polling place.
00:50:31.000 It's because they are worried.
00:50:33.000 It's because they're worried about the prices of things.
00:50:36.000 And historically, they've believed that the Democrats would support their union or deliver higher wages to them or raise taxes on whatever it is that they think can benefit them economically.
00:50:46.000 But trying to pander to men with those kinds of social issues, especially in that direction, it's not going to work.
00:50:51.000 I think they kind of stumbled into the Project 2025 fear-mongering after their first few ideas didn't work out.
00:50:57.000 They were trying to focus on democracy slash so-called democracy on January 6th.
00:51:01.000 It wasn't resonating very hard.
00:51:02.000 They tried to attack Trump as extremely pro-life.
00:51:05.000 Trump dispelled that by coming out as relatively pro-choice as a Republican.
00:51:10.000 And they were like, all right, well, what else can we attack him with?
00:51:12.000 None of this crap is kind of sticking.
00:51:13.000 Well, everything we hate about Republicans, Project 2025, you know, a match made in heaven.
00:51:19.000 And it didn't resonate at all.
00:51:22.000 It was always a really bad strategy in general.
00:51:26.000 And this is another thing.
00:51:27.000 Democrats, I used to at least give them credit.
00:51:29.000 I mean, they're evil, but I used to think anyway that they're evil, but they're smart.
00:51:33.000 And Republicans typically not as evil, but kind of dumb.
00:51:37.000 That's the way it was for decades.
00:51:39.000 So decades and decades, that's kind of the way it worked.
00:51:41.000 And so Democrats are just like strategically running laps around Republicans, but they've gotten pretty dumb strategically in recent years.
00:51:47.000 And Project 20, even leaving aside the ideology of and politics of it, it's just the messaging is really stupid because when you go out and you have a 30-second ad and you say, Project 2025...
00:51:57.000 No one knows what the hell that is.
00:51:59.000 And then you have to go look it up, and it's this whole long thing, and you've got to read through it.
00:52:03.000 So it's just really bad messaging.
00:52:05.000 You have to find...
00:52:06.000 But that's the point, is that they couldn't go to the actual Project 2025 and find anything scary.
00:52:11.000 If there was something scary in it, you wouldn't say Project 2025.
00:52:14.000 You would just focus in on that one scary thing.
00:52:17.000 But it wasn't in there, because...
00:52:18.000 Whatever you hate about Republicans, just throw it.
00:52:21.000 There you go.
00:52:21.000 Project 2025.
00:52:22.000 I actually got a PDF of Project 2025 and was flipping through it just to see if it was as mundane as I'd expected.
00:52:29.000 And it very much is.
00:52:31.000 I mean, it's like, oh my goodness, these crazy radical Republicans want to alter the regulations surrounding Alaska's sovereignty with fishing and wildlife permitting.
00:52:40.000 Come on.
00:52:41.000 Well, Sean, something you said.
00:52:42.000 I don't know if the Democrats have been getting dumb on strategy.
00:52:45.000 Well, they have been, but why have they been getting dumb on strategy?
00:52:48.000 And I believe it's because they're beholden to their youth and communist base at the party now, where all the enthusiasm is.
00:52:54.000 So they're struggling with their untenable party.
00:52:57.000 It's just waiting to fracture, is how I kind of view this stuff.
00:53:00.000 And they know that they have to, you know, talk about these fringe issues.
00:53:03.000 You need to talk about trans rights, although it pulls horribly.
00:53:06.000 And all these other things that are honestly...
00:53:10.000 Where the enthusiasm in the Democratic Party comes from.
00:53:12.000 That is the problem that they're having.
00:53:14.000 But again, just if you're smart strategically.
00:53:16.000 Like, I could have done a better job.
00:53:18.000 Kamala could have hired me as a campaign director, and I would have done a better job of just selling these ideas than whatever morons they were working for.
00:53:26.000 So their idea is Project 2025.
00:53:28.000 Tim Wall, you know, you bring on Tim Walls, and you have him do the stupid...
00:53:34.000 Football coach thing where they keep going back to this well.
00:53:37.000 All right, huddle up, team.
00:53:38.000 I'm going to give the football halftime speech.
00:53:41.000 And it's just...
00:53:42.000 It's so ham-fisted.
00:53:43.000 It's like...
00:53:43.000 It's like...
00:53:45.000 It's like 1990s-era youth group leader type of stuff in their attempts to connect with people.
00:53:54.000 I'm not kidding you.
00:53:55.000 I saw a tweet that went viral after the election where someone was saying the mistake the Democrats made is they failed to properly exploit Tim Walz because he's so relatable to young men, and this is why we lost young men as voters.
00:54:08.000 The level of delusion is absolutely off the charts.
00:54:11.000 Tim Walls is absolutely not somebody who any young man looks up to and wants to be like.
00:54:16.000 And I'll just put it this way, man.
00:54:19.000 When you're like, we have to put tampons in the boys' bathroom.
00:54:21.000 You're not somebody who young men are like, this is a really cool guy.
00:54:25.000 But on top of that, his gesturing.
00:54:28.000 Right, right.
00:54:28.000 Yeah.
00:54:28.000 When they put tampons in a high school boys' bathroom, the boys ripped the thing down and vandalized.
00:54:34.000 Do you remember that story?
00:54:35.000 Yeah.
00:54:36.000 That was the high school I went to.
00:54:38.000 That was your high school?
00:54:38.000 Yes.
00:54:39.000 That was Seamus.
00:54:40.000 Yes, that was me when I was in high school.
00:54:42.000 No, I'm kidding.
00:54:42.000 But continue.
00:54:43.000 So it wasn't your high school?
00:54:44.000 No, yeah, it was.
00:54:45.000 It was?
00:54:45.000 Yes.
00:54:45.000 So Tim Walsh is known for wanting tampons in boys' bathrooms.
00:54:49.000 At the same time, we know young men ridicule and reject that notion.
00:54:54.000 And they thought this was going to attract young men to vote for Kamala Harris.
00:54:57.000 It's absurd.
00:54:58.000 And now you've got Andrew Yang going on CNN saying it was a mistake to not go on Joe Rogan's podcast.
00:55:05.000 And Mike Cernovich, he responded to me saying, that's like saying it's a mistake for me not to drop it on Tim Pool's halfpipe.
00:55:12.000 Well, I'll put it this way.
00:55:13.000 She can't do it.
00:55:14.000 If you're actually someone who young men look up to as an influence or appears manly, the joke critics will make about you to kind of coalesce with their optics that you should be bad is they'll basically call you stupid, they'll call you a lunkhead.
00:55:28.000 If there's anyone in the Democratic Party we could point to who's remotely masculine, I think you'd say Fetterman is a pretty masculine-seeming dude.
00:55:34.000 Fetterman?
00:55:35.000 I think more so than anyone else in the party.
00:55:38.000 He's not super masculine.
00:55:40.000 But I'm saying, as far as Democrats go...
00:55:42.000 He's not gay.
00:55:43.000 Exactly.
00:55:45.000 And that's a fair way of putting it.
00:55:47.000 But when you look at the way he's made fun of, as opposed to other Democrats, it's mostly like, this guy's dumb, this guy's a long cat.
00:55:52.000 the reason Tim Walls was made fun of for seeming gay wasn't because he did it.
00:55:58.000 The reason Republicans were able to coalesce around that meme and make fun of him on that basis wasn't because it wasn't resonating with young men.
00:56:06.000 You get what I mean?
00:56:07.000 To follow up on Democrats on going or not going on Rogan's podcast, I think John Fetterman actually went on Rogan's podcast and performed pretty decently and was a relatable guy and was talking about his struggles with mental illness following his campaign run.
00:56:21.000 and checking himself into Walter Reed for depression.
00:56:24.000 And I think he came off as a relatable man.
00:56:27.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:56:28.000 Come to think of it.
00:56:29.000 He's not like a macho dude, but he just seems like a more regular guy.
00:56:33.000 That's the thing.
00:56:33.000 If you want to appear masculine and appeal to men, there are, I think, a few steps you have to follow.
00:56:39.000 But the first step you have to get past is you have to be authentic.
00:56:43.000 And leftists, again, don't understand this, because when they think about what we think of masculinity, they have this cartoon in their mind.
00:56:51.000 And so with Tim Walls, they tried to imitate that cartoon.
00:56:54.000 But in reality, if you're conservative and someone asks you, like, what...
00:56:58.000 you know, what does it take to be a masculine man?
00:56:59.000 None of us are going to say, well, you have to go hunting and you have to wear camo hats.
00:57:03.000 We would say that's a version of masculinity.
00:57:05.000 So there are those kinds of guys and that's cool.
00:57:08.000 But, but you know, to, to be masculine, number one, authentic, number two, competent.
00:57:13.000 If you're authentic and you are a competent person and you're a man and there, so you could be, uh, you could go hunting and you could be that kind of guy.
00:57:22.000 You could be a really smart guy who reads a lot of books and can wax philosophical about things.
00:57:27.000 That's also masculine.
00:57:29.000 You could be Jordan Peterson.
00:57:32.000 Well, man, it's like, I'm the manliest guy around, and everyone knows it.
00:57:35.000 No, it's true.
00:57:36.000 But he still inspires a lot of young men to get their act together to clean up.
00:57:39.000 100%.
00:57:40.000 That's exactly right.
00:57:42.000 But they don't understand.
00:57:43.000 They think that we have this super narrow, very specific idea of what it takes to be a masculine man, and what they don't understand is that we don't, and we never did, and we don't have that for femininity either.
00:57:57.000 I mean, our point all along, not to take this in a different direction, but, you know, they are the ones saying that, okay, well, to be a man or woman is this thing.
00:58:06.000 And so, actually, if you act a different way than, you know, if you're a man and you act a bit feminine, now you're actually a woman, it turns out.
00:58:12.000 We're the ones saying that, no, you can be, you know, you could be, there are actually a lot of different ways to be masculine.
00:58:18.000 Yeah.
00:58:18.000 And they just don't, they don't listen.
00:58:20.000 Well, and even things like you said that wouldn't be traditionally considered masculine, like if you're really, really good at chess or something, you're just at the top of your field there.
00:58:26.000 They're making cartoons or something.
00:58:28.000 But you look at a guy like Tim Walls, and you're right, the competence is not exactly something he exudes.
00:58:34.000 I don't mean to be disrespectful, but clowns are not typically considered masculine.
00:58:39.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:58:41.000 Unless there's a super ripped barbell 1920s clown.
00:58:44.000 I don't see them as feminine either, though.
00:58:45.000 There's a weird thing going on there with clowns.
00:58:47.000 You don't look at Tim Walls So I guess I shouldn't call Fetterman masculine.
00:58:50.000 I don't know what the right word is, but bouncing around on stage, shaking his arms.
00:58:55.000 He's a bubbly guy.
00:58:56.000 It doesn't, but to your point, it doesn't exude competence at all.
00:58:59.000 And that's the thing.
00:59:00.000 Like, I like, I mean, you could be a guy, you could be a great chef.
00:59:04.000 Exactly.
00:59:05.000 Very masculine.
00:59:06.000 That's very true.
00:59:07.000 Yeah.
00:59:07.000 And that's like feminine, right?
00:59:09.000 Women cook, but almost all the top chefs in the world are men.
00:59:12.000 And no one's like, oh, he's a cook?
00:59:13.000 That's like so girly.
00:59:15.000 But also, you know, with, it's almost like, Dude wipes as a phenomenon.
00:59:20.000 Do you remember this?
00:59:21.000 They're basically just baby wipes, but they put them in a package and called them dude wipes because they thought men would pay more for them, which is ironically one of the most effeminate things you could possibly do.
00:59:29.000 I need to spend more money on a little treat for me that's going to make me feel more manly.
00:59:35.000 Very embarrassing.
00:59:36.000 Tim Walz kind of felt like that.
00:59:38.000 We're just going to call him the dude wipes of political leaders, but maybe Tampon Tim has already started.
00:59:44.000 Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial.
00:59:46.000 Malcolm Nance warns minorities will face Roundup under Trump be put in camps after America voted for dictatorship.
00:59:55.000 We are blessed with law.
00:59:56.000 No one's ever accused this guy of being of sound mind.
00:59:59.000 He tweets, let's get something straight.
01:00:01.000 The American people voted to absolutely make sure loads of people would die at Trump's hands.
01:00:05.000 Their daughters, their wives, children and their fellow citizens would die from school shootings, pregnancy and easily cured diseases.
01:00:11.000 It's free hunting season for blacks with immunity for white cops.
01:00:14.000 Muslims and Latinos will definitely die in mass deportation runs in camps.
01:00:18.000 Gaza will be bulldozed, if not ethnically cleansed.
01:00:22.000 Iranians who want democracy will die.
01:00:24.000 Ukrainians are dying in droves already.
01:00:26.000 This man is unwell.
01:00:28.000 I mean, it's got to be crack in that pipe.
01:00:31.000 The issue is...
01:00:34.000 You know, I'll mention Alan Lichtman.
01:00:36.000 The guy with the keys to the White House prediction is that Kamala was going to win.
01:00:39.000 I feel really bad for him.
01:00:41.000 He had this great track record.
01:00:43.000 And then he decided at some point that CNN was trustworthy.
01:00:46.000 And this is the same thing with people like Malcolm Nance.
01:00:49.000 They live in this brainwashed cult world where they watch MSNBC all day.
01:00:54.000 And MSNBC is just spewing fake news for money.
01:00:59.000 And these people believe it.
01:01:01.000 And this is where they end up thinking that we're in, oh, it's 1933 again.
01:01:04.000 It's open season in cop.
01:01:06.000 He literally says it's like open hunting season for black men and cops going to shoot them.
01:01:10.000 I mean, the last year I looked out was 2019, but it was like there were about 10 unarmed black men killed by police officers the entire year.
01:01:16.000 Great point.
01:01:17.000 Like, the left tends to believe the most exaggerated and the most ridiculous things.
01:01:23.000 When, you know, right before and right around the time that George Floyd died, there were, if you asked your typical liberal, you know, they would say that there's probably hundreds to thousands of black men killed by police every year.
01:01:35.000 Every year.
01:01:36.000 And things like, oh, I'm going, like, Donald Trump is going to deport everyone that's brown.
01:01:41.000 It doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not.
01:01:43.000 You're all going to go.
01:01:44.000 That's what they're talking about on X and TikTok.
01:01:49.000 They're going to outlaw abortion.
01:01:50.000 It is all histrionic.
01:01:52.000 It is all the most extreme, ridiculous caricature.
01:01:57.000 And I understand that generally the left has less of an understanding of the right than the right does of the left.
01:02:02.000 The right will listen to the arguments made by the left and listen to the things that they want.
01:02:07.000 And the left just tends to look at the right as a caricature of what the most evil is.
01:02:14.000 But you'd think at some point they would begin to attempt to understand.
01:02:18.000 And I don't think they will.
01:02:20.000 But just to be clear, this guy doesn't believe any of that nonsense.
01:02:24.000 He doesn't actually believe that.
01:02:27.000 If you go on TikTok and you see these girls screaming in the car, and most of that is also fake, by the way, but if you're going to find anyone who actually believes that stuff, it's going to be the TikTok women screaming in cars.
01:02:41.000 This guy doesn't believe it, and you know he doesn't believe it, because if you actually believe that, Uh, then you would respond a certain way.
01:02:48.000 And one thing you would do is you would leave the country.
01:02:51.000 I mean, if you actually believed, if you actually believed that a fascist dictator is going to run the country now, it's open season on you.
01:02:57.000 Like, anyone can shoot, because he's a black guy.
01:02:58.000 Anyone can shoot you.
01:02:59.000 People are getting rounded up and put in camps and...
01:03:01.000 They're not going to cure diseases anymore.
01:03:03.000 I don't know where that comes from.
01:03:04.000 If you really believe that, then it would be an easy decision to leave the country.
01:03:08.000 Flee.
01:03:09.000 Flee for your life.
01:03:10.000 But he's not going to do that.
01:03:12.000 Because he's not sitting around in fear.
01:03:15.000 He's quite comfortable.
01:03:16.000 And this is just rhetoric on his part.
01:03:19.000 I do think there are going to be some people who leave.
01:03:22.000 Celebrities who said that...
01:03:23.000 God willing.
01:03:24.000 I think this time it may be true.
01:03:26.000 And you know why?
01:03:27.000 There are two lists that we're hoping will be released by the Trump administration.
01:03:32.000 All right.
01:03:32.000 Yep.
01:03:33.000 So I think some people might want to get out before Donald Trump gets into office.
01:03:37.000 You know what I mean?
01:03:38.000 Yeah, I just want to say this.
01:03:40.000 I think because Donald Trump threatened to assassinate Liz Cheney, which is a very real thing that he actually said.
01:03:48.000 And it's a true story and not fake news.
01:03:51.000 I think Joe Biden has a responsibility to help the Cheneys leave the country right now for their own safety.
01:03:56.000 And I think he also has to help every journalist who repeated that story leave the country because Trump is going to be vindictive.
01:04:03.000 I totally agree.
01:04:04.000 That's very kind of you also to be thinking about their well-being.
01:04:08.000 I mean, look, when you have a presidential candidate making those kinds of unbelievable, I would say unbelievable threats, something has to be done to protect those people.
01:04:18.000 Yeah.
01:04:19.000 This line about Muslims and Latinos is especially crazy.
01:04:21.000 I don't know.
01:04:22.000 Muslims and Latinos that were, they were soon about to die in mass deportation and roundup camps.
01:04:27.000 Why did he throw Muslims in there?
01:04:29.000 I don't know.
01:04:29.000 Are they here illegally as well?
01:04:30.000 Why did Trump throw Muslims in there is the question, Elad.
01:04:33.000 Well, but the Muslims voted for Trump.
01:04:35.000 That's true.
01:04:36.000 And so did the Latinos.
01:04:37.000 Right.
01:04:38.000 And he's like, well, they're voting for, you know, because Trump's racist or whatever.
01:04:41.000 And it's just like, I kind of think, you know, what I love about this is they're basically screaming in the face of Latinos, you're stupid.
01:04:48.000 Yeah.
01:04:49.000 You have no agency.
01:04:51.000 You're dumb.
01:04:51.000 But you know what's funny is that Yale study that found white liberals talk down to black people.
01:04:57.000 They exhibit, they pretend to be less competent than they are when they speak to minorities.
01:05:03.000 And this is exactly it.
01:05:04.000 They think the poor minority is too stupid to figure out what they need for their families.
01:05:08.000 There is a little incoherence in his foreign policies, geopolitical policies here.
01:05:13.000 He's complaining about the Russians with Ukrainians dying.
01:05:15.000 He's complaining about the Ayatollah with the Iranians.
01:05:19.000 But then he's also saying the Israelis will be emboldened to be genociding Gazans.
01:05:24.000 Yeah, right.
01:05:25.000 So there's no, it's not coherent here.
01:05:27.000 It's because, you know, because the Iranians are actually attacking the Israelis who, and the Iranians are saying they're trying to prevent, you know, alleged genocide in Gaza.
01:05:35.000 And all this is a mishmash.
01:05:37.000 And Malcolm Nance is happy to see Donald Trump reelected because it's good for him personally, and it's going to line his pockets.
01:05:42.000 Because now, whenever he says stuff like this, it will go mega viral.
01:05:45.000 Attention to MSNBC will be through the roof.
01:05:48.000 MSNBC did their best under their first Trump administration.
01:05:51.000 And Malcolm Nance is now about to be a part of MSNBC's You know, people will line up for the second term.
01:05:57.000 MSNBC is going to turn into some, like, liberal YouTube channel with one guy left on it, and they're going to get 40,000 views per video.
01:06:03.000 It's more left than the Young Turks is nowadays, especially with Anna and Shank behaving the way that they have lately.
01:06:09.000 Yeah, but I think that's a good point, and something to keep in mind, that a lot of these people in the corporate media, they...
01:06:16.000 Trump is basically a lifeline for them.
01:06:18.000 He's going to keep them somewhat relevant for the next four years.
01:06:22.000 I mean, they're not relevant and they have no influence, but at least it gives them kind of a niche for four years where they could just, you know, attack the Trump administration.
01:06:30.000 And so really, I think many of them are quite, I think you're right, I think a lot of them are actually happy that he was elected.
01:06:36.000 Also this line here that women will die from getting pregnant.
01:06:41.000 I mean, all of these abortion advocates in the abortion lobby know that that's not true, that women are not going to be prosecuted and never are for having miscarriages.
01:06:52.000 But they're comfortable saying that even though it means that some women who actually are experiencing complications from a miscarriage will be less likely to go to a hospital and therefore more likely to die because they believe that they'll go to jail for having a miscarriage because it will help them to try to push back against abortion laws which cut into the profits of slaughtering unborn babies.
01:07:11.000 What I love about this line as well is that When you say something like, we should not allow abortions at nine months, they say, oh, that's an edge case.
01:07:22.000 These things never happen.
01:07:23.000 Why are you even arguing it?
01:07:24.000 And then they go, here's one woman who died recently from a complication, and it's like, do they not follow the same logic?
01:07:32.000 Well, and it's not even true, though.
01:07:33.000 Of course.
01:07:34.000 Yeah.
01:07:34.000 But it's like...
01:07:36.000 They will argue an edge case and say, this is why we must have universal access.
01:07:41.000 And then when you say, well, I disagree because it goes too far, they say, oh, those are edge cases.
01:07:45.000 When it comes to abortion, all they talk about is edge cases.
01:07:48.000 The entire conversation is rape, incest, life of the mother.
01:07:51.000 That's all they want to talk about with abortion.
01:07:53.000 That's always been the case.
01:07:55.000 You're talking about less than 1% of all cases fall into that category.
01:07:58.000 And really, life of the mother cases, that actually doesn't happen.
01:08:01.000 You never need an abortion to save a woman's life.
01:08:04.000 So that's all they ever do.
01:08:06.000 They never want to talk about the 99%.
01:08:08.000 But I think this is another one of the great and really encouraging takeaways of Trump's victory is that we were told, even by conservatives, we've been told for two years now that...
01:08:21.000 That Roe being overturned is going to be a political disaster for Republicans.
01:08:25.000 And we're going to have this...
01:08:26.000 It's going to be an uprising of pro-abortion feminists.
01:08:29.000 And they're going to exact their revenge.
01:08:31.000 And it just didn't happen.
01:08:32.000 It did not materialize.
01:08:34.000 I got it for you guys.
01:08:35.000 I know exactly how you can get abortion banned.
01:08:39.000 100%.
01:08:40.000 It's really easy.
01:08:41.000 First, you're going to need a Democrat administration in power.
01:08:44.000 Then you need to win a midterm with Republicans.
01:08:47.000 The Republicans need to tank the economy.
01:08:49.000 Then, once everyone's just super angry about the economy, we can squeeze through any laws that you want.
01:08:57.000 You can ban anything because people just, well, it's the economy, stupid.
01:09:00.000 So, my point here is, while Democrats were screaming at the top of their lungs that abortion was the principal issue, and they were trying to make it an issue, the only thing anybody cared about was that butter was $7.
01:09:11.000 It's not the biggest issue for Americans.
01:09:14.000 I think it ranked at number five.
01:09:16.000 And I'm not saying it's not important to you guys.
01:09:18.000 I'm just saying, you want to win an election, you go on economics.
01:09:21.000 And you're right, it did rank highly.
01:09:22.000 But remember, when wanting to protect democracy or thinking democracy was under threat ranked highly, people assumed that that meant that liberals were concerned that Trump was going to destroy democracy.
01:09:31.000 But then most of the people who answered that they were concerned about the future of democracy actually ended up voting for Trump.
01:09:37.000 That's what we learned from the exit poll.
01:09:38.000 So similarly, people saying abortion was a very important issue to them doesn't necessarily mean that they were coming from the pro-abortion angle.
01:09:44.000 So, Trump's Supreme Court was largely, obviously, responsible for overturning Roe v.
01:09:49.000 Wade, but Trump has since then said, I think he was confused, not confused, but said that he was a little bit reluctant with the overturning, and now he said that he wouldn't move forward with any sort of national abortion ban.
01:10:01.000 Do you have any thoughts moving forward on who's going to be the guy to get you to the next level with banning abortion?
01:10:08.000 Like, Trump helped overturn Roe v.
01:10:09.000 Wade.
01:10:09.000 Do you think he's the guy to do the next step, or do you see him sort of running away from it?
01:10:14.000 What do you mean by the next step?
01:10:15.000 I mean, I'm assuming you want to see a national abortion ban.
01:10:17.000 Yeah, I would.
01:10:18.000 If it were up to me, it would be federally banned from conception, period.
01:10:23.000 Yeah.
01:10:24.000 And I would love to see that.
01:10:26.000 Trump's not going to do that.
01:10:28.000 Define abortion.
01:10:30.000 The intentional violent termination of a pregnancy.
01:10:36.000 And the reason why I asked you to do that is because I think...
01:10:38.000 You don't need violent, actually.
01:10:39.000 Intentional termination of a pregnancy.
01:10:41.000 Intentional killing.
01:10:41.000 There was that Jubilee video, I think, was with Ben Shapiro, and the woman said, no, you're wrong, abortion is not that.
01:10:46.000 That's not what it is.
01:10:46.000 And then, I think it was Ben who said this, this liberal woman viewed abortion as just, like, a miscarriage or something.
01:10:53.000 Or, like, they'll say early deliveries.
01:10:55.000 It's like, shut up.
01:10:56.000 No, she was saying, like, giving birth is an abortion or something.
01:10:59.000 Yeah, just silly.
01:11:00.000 Well, that was the weird thing when I think we had someone on this show, and she argued that birth was abortion.
01:11:06.000 And I was like, what?
01:11:07.000 Because it ends the pregnancy.
01:11:08.000 And I was like, no, abortion...
01:11:10.000 Because I actually had this argument with Seamus, like, two years ago, and I was wrong.
01:11:13.000 Because I said, no, abortions could be in the instance of, say, like, a miscarriage, and Seamus told me I was wrong.
01:11:18.000 And then I ended up not believing him and being wrong, and then we looked up the definition by law and Planned Parenthood, and I was like, oh, Seamus was right the whole time.
01:11:26.000 Abortion, Planned Parenthood defines it as the intentional termination of a pregnancy that ends the life of the baby.
01:11:35.000 Right.
01:11:35.000 Yeah.
01:11:36.000 And, uh, and yeah, if you are just ending the pregnancy itself, there's yes, I guess you could kill the baby, right?
01:11:45.000 You could be, you could refer to delivering a baby as ending the pregnancy, but like no one talks that way, but that's also an important point.
01:11:51.000 This is, this is something, this is, this is the point about late term abortions is that, and these are, this is every case when you hear about, well, there need to be an abortion to save the woman's life.
01:11:59.000 And this is almost always later term.
01:12:02.000 Do you see that commercial they made?
01:12:04.000 With the guy?
01:12:05.000 With the guy?
01:12:05.000 Okay, sorry to interrupt her, but the woman's on the ground, and she's bleeding, and the guy's like, doctor, what do I do?
01:12:11.000 And he goes, she needs an abortion.
01:12:12.000 And the Republican congressman grabs the phone and is like, no.
01:12:15.000 And I was just like, if your wife falls on the ground covered in blood, and you don't call 911, you call your physician, and on top of that, your physician doesn't advise you to call 911, you are crazy people.
01:12:26.000 Yeah, you probably need to get a new doctor.
01:12:28.000 But that's the thing with a late-term abortion, when there can be cases where the pregnancy needs to end in order to preserve the woman's life, and so the baby needs to be delivered.
01:12:43.000 But killing the baby, aborting the baby is an extra step that obviously is not necessary to preserve the woman's life.
01:12:49.000 You could just deliver the baby and then try to save the baby's life.
01:12:56.000 So every time they're saying that we need to get the abortion to preserve the woman's life, what they're saying is that Is that we need to deliver the baby and also kill the baby in the process, which is obviously a totally medically unnecessary.
01:13:07.000 But that's post-viability.
01:13:09.000 So in a circumstance where the baby's not going to survive on its own, maybe it's too soon in the pregnancy, but the health of the mother is jeopardized, I've never heard a conservative argue that there should not be attempts to save the mother's life.
01:13:23.000 No.
01:13:23.000 Well, also, it's even worse than that.
01:13:24.000 You're absolutely right that that's how they frame this when they claim that there are medically necessary abortions, which there aren't.
01:13:29.000 But on top of that, when they're saying medically necessary abortions, they're also saying for reasons of mental health.
01:13:34.000 This woman will be depressed if she doesn't get an abortion.
01:13:36.000 She'll be more depressed if she does.
01:13:38.000 I guess, Matt, one of the things I was trying to get at, it seems as though over the past couple of decades, Republicans have become less and less pro-life and Donald Trump is clearly the most pro-choice Republican we've ever had.
01:13:48.000 What do you think about the direction of the Republican Party in relation to this issue?
01:13:53.000 Yeah, I think if it were totally up to me, as I said, I'd have a federal abortion ban.
01:13:57.000 That's not what's happening.
01:13:58.000 Trump's not going to do that.
01:13:59.000 I don't think any Republican president in the foreseeable future is going to do that, is going to campaign on that.
01:14:06.000 And so this does move into the states.
01:14:09.000 And that's just, I believe in like...
01:14:12.000 It's acknowledging reality for what it is and then trying to operate within reality rather than demanding that reality be something that it's not.
01:14:19.000 And so that's the reality that we're operating in right now is a pro-life movement.
01:14:22.000 We're operating in a reality where there's no federal ban.
01:14:25.000 There's probably not going to be one any time in the near future.
01:14:28.000 And so it becomes a state-by-state battle.
01:14:31.000 And so that's the future.
01:14:33.000 That's where we need to fight it is in the states.
01:14:38.000 I mean, moreover, there seems to be a pro-choice consensus among both parties.
01:14:42.000 I feel like Republicans are now split, and Democrats are probably around 80-20.
01:14:45.000 Depends on what you mean by pro-choice.
01:14:47.000 14 weeks, give or take a couple of weeks.
01:14:50.000 I don't know if I go so far as to say consensus among them.
01:14:53.000 I mean, there are plenty of very pro-life Republicans, even in an elected office.
01:15:01.000 And I think what you're finding in some cases is pro-lifers and Republicans adopting this kind of incremental approach to protecting babies, which I agree with.
01:15:13.000 All incrementalism means is that I am going to select the best possible option available to me right now.
01:15:20.000 And so if the best thing I can do right now, if the best thing I can achieve right now is protecting babies past X point, then I'll take that.
01:15:28.000 I'll take that now.
01:15:30.000 And then I'm going to immediately start working for the next thing.
01:15:32.000 I mean, I say the same thing about when we're the fight to protect children from gender, you know, quote-unquote gender transition.
01:15:42.000 And to me, that's incremental.
01:15:42.000 Right.
01:15:43.000 So I want to protect children from this butchery.
01:15:48.000 I also happen to think, personally, that it shouldn't be legal for doctors to do that to anybody, I don't care how old you are.
01:15:54.000 I think the incrementalism, though, is we're seeing it go in the opposite direction.
01:15:57.000 I mean, Bush was pro-life, Mitt Romney was extremely pro-life, and I think Trump is almost...
01:16:01.000 And Trump is, too, and Trump got Roe overturned.
01:16:03.000 I don't think Trump is pro-life.
01:16:05.000 Well, he says he is, but I do think this is kind of an absurd argument that...
01:16:10.000 Those presidents you mentioned did not get Roe overturned.
01:16:13.000 And so it's fascinating to me that there are pro-lifers who are like, I would not vote for Donald Trump.
01:16:17.000 I'm like, he's given you more than any Republican president's ever given you on the issue.
01:16:21.000 Yeah, I don't know if I agree with your premise.
01:16:22.000 I do think that Trump is more pro-life than, say, Bush was.
01:16:29.000 He appointed the pro-life justices.
01:16:31.000 He had more of an opportunity, though, because Bush did what?
01:16:34.000 Clarence Thomas, who was extremely pro-life, if I'm not mistaken.
01:16:37.000 I'm talking about W. Bush.
01:16:40.000 And Roberts, right?
01:16:42.000 W. Roberts, who was really lame.
01:16:44.000 And here's the other thing.
01:16:45.000 This is not a small thing.
01:16:46.000 This is significant.
01:16:47.000 Trump is the only president who spoke at the March for Life.
01:16:52.000 And, you know, I've been to the March for Life For eight years, the March for Life was happening in D.C. under Bush's tenure.
01:17:00.000 Never showed up.
01:17:01.000 Never showed up one time.
01:17:02.000 And that really tells you something.
01:17:05.000 So I think that at a minimum, Trump is as pro-life as past Republican presidents.
01:17:10.000 I think you can make an argument that he's more.
01:17:12.000 He's not as pro-life as I am, but I don't think that he's a step back on that issue.
01:17:16.000 Let's jump to this story from Fox News.
01:17:18.000 Special Counsel Jack Smith moves to drop Trump election interference case.
01:17:23.000 President-elect Trump promised during the campaign to fire Smith within two seconds after taking office.
01:17:28.000 Hear, hear.
01:17:29.000 And then, Jack Smith ordered by House GOP to preserve all documents related to Trump cases.
01:17:36.000 So, uh...
01:17:37.000 It's looking like these people are scared.
01:17:40.000 Yeah.
01:17:41.000 You know, Trump didn't need to even get into office, and Hamas is already calling for an end of the war.
01:17:46.000 Jack Smith is already backing off.
01:17:47.000 Judge Mershon is signaling he may get rid and dismiss these 34 charges against Donald Trump.
01:17:53.000 That's it.
01:17:54.000 This was clearly an attempt by Trump's political opponents to use the legal system to stop him from winning an election, and he won it.
01:18:01.000 There's an argument that I made the other day about the price of energy and how when you have someone like Trump in office, the price of energy might just start going down because the future's marked.
01:18:14.000 He'll signal to business that there's going to be fewer It's not exclusive to economic things.
01:18:31.000 You see the behavior of other countries.
01:18:35.000 Because he won the presidency.
01:18:36.000 You see the behavior of Putin.
01:18:38.000 You see the behavior of Hamas.
01:18:40.000 You see that because Trump is coming into office, that they're responding to Trump coming into office, just like when Reagan was coming into office, Iran responded.
01:18:52.000 The idea that the United States lives in a vacuum and that the president...
01:19:00.000 Who the president is, is of no consequence to other countries or to the economy or to anything else.
01:19:07.000 The United States is the most consequential country in the world, without question, bar none.
01:19:13.000 And so when the United States moves, the rest of the world responds every single time.
01:19:19.000 You know, it's said that when the U.S. has a sneeze, the rest of the world gets a cold.
01:19:24.000 And those kind of things are real.
01:19:26.000 And this is an unmitigated positive thing that Donald Trump is coming in.
01:19:32.000 There have been zero negative things happen in the world since, like, on the international scope or whatever, foreign policy scope.
01:19:41.000 Just because Donald Trump...
01:19:43.000 Is going to be in office.
01:19:45.000 And then it's just things are gradually improving.
01:19:47.000 That was a joke I made to Seamus.
01:19:48.000 He should make a cartoon where Trump's walking through his inauguration and everything's just getting better and improving and people are getting richer and a guy's like, the war is over!
01:19:55.000 Then he gets there and he's like, I guess my job's done.
01:19:58.000 Yeah, no, it's a beautiful thing.
01:20:00.000 People are going to respond to the pressure that they believe the Trump administration will put on them or the lack of pressure that the Trump administration is perceived to be putting on their enemies or will put on their enemies.
01:20:08.000 But take a look at this from Real Clear Politics.
01:20:11.000 Voters anxious about democracy.
01:20:12.000 Take a look.
01:20:13.000 They asked people, democracy in the U.S. is very secure, somewhat secure, somewhat threatened, very threatened.
01:20:22.000 And among the very threatened cohort, they voted for Trump at a 4% edge.
01:20:29.000 And so what does that tell you?
01:20:29.000 Yep.
01:20:31.000 The people in this country who think democracy is being threatened aren't concerned about January 6th, they're concerned about Jack Smith.
01:20:37.000 Yep.
01:20:37.000 Mm-hmm.
01:20:39.000 For good reason.
01:20:41.000 It's honestly a smarter way of looking at it, right?
01:20:44.000 Firstly, January 6th is nowhere near what they made it out to be.
01:20:48.000 It was nowhere near as bad as the COVID riots and the 529 insurrection.
01:20:53.000 But also, even if we wanted to claim that it was...
01:20:58.000 The guy with the knife, or lack of a knife, but just the big scary dude who threatens to rob you when you have five bucks on you seems like a more immediate threat, but when someone hacks your bank account and empties it, that's actually way worse for you overall.
01:21:14.000 And I would say that's what Jack Smith represents as opposed to the J6ers.
01:21:18.000 Though, of course, I don't actually give a sense to the idea that that's what the J6ers are.
01:21:22.000 I think that the argument that Elon Musk made on the Joe Rogan podcast actually resonated with the American people.
01:21:31.000 The situation with immigration, with the HHS program, the refugee resettlement program, it's being run by the Health and Human Services Department, transporting people that show up at the border and they say that they are looking for asylum.
01:21:52.000 They bring them into the country, they transport them to purple states, and with the goal of those people becoming Citizens and voting for Democrats.
01:22:02.000 There's intent in that.
01:22:04.000 And I think that the American people realized it.
01:22:07.000 I think that the American people believe because of the influx, because everyone knows that there's way more, you know, there's like 10 or whatever, 15 million illegals in the country in four years, which is just an astronomical number.
01:22:19.000 number and i think because of that the american people were like look the the the additional people in the united states they're going to dilute my vote they're going to make my vote mean less and you saw the things that were happening in small towns like in ohio and i whether you think they were actually eating the dogs or eating the cats is totally irrelevant it brought focus to those people that were suffering because of a massive influx they
01:22:46.000 Their town doubled in population, or maybe it was...
01:22:50.000 I don't know the exact number, but it was a massive, massive increase that no small town could ever, ever hope to support.
01:22:56.000 And people saw that, and they're like, yeah, this is a bad thing.
01:22:59.000 The influx of people makes housing more expensive.
01:23:02.000 The influx of people does not automatically make prices go down.
01:23:05.000 So I think that the American people saw this as...
01:23:09.000 A threat to their ability to influence their representatives.
01:23:14.000 And so that's the actual threat to democracy that they saw.
01:23:17.000 And it wasn't the, oh, Donald Trump's going to end democracy.
01:23:20.000 It was the Democrats are using my tax money to dilute my actual, my voting ability and dilute the impact of my vote.
01:23:29.000 And to add on to that, these people don't even have to vote to have an electoral impact because congressional seats are delegated by population based on the census.
01:23:38.000 So these people, even if they don't vote, even if they never become citizens, will still have political power allocated as a result of them existing there.
01:23:47.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:23:49.000 Not that they won't eventually get citizenship.
01:23:51.000 In some cities, they don't even require citizenship to engage in voting for their lower-level seats.
01:23:58.000 I do wonder...
01:24:00.000 I guess what most conservatives would say is that, especially when you look at those results, that Trump voters think that the threat to democracy is coming from the other end.
01:24:11.000 Most conservatives would probably say that a lot of voters were concerned about the legal cases and that that was the threat against democracy, is the lawfare.
01:24:18.000 Which is probably true, but I also wonder...
01:24:20.000 I kind of think that all these criminal cases, and of course all this was, they weren't even really criminal cases.
01:24:26.000 It was not about, they weren't even trying to throw Trump in jail.
01:24:28.000 I mean, they would have loved to put him in jail if they could, but that was like a secondary benefit.
01:24:31.000 It was really just about making a political case against Trump to stop him from being elected.
01:24:35.000 And I sort of think that I think it had zero impact at all.
01:24:40.000 I don't know if anybody was really thinking about that when they went to the polls.
01:24:42.000 I think it just had zero impact.
01:24:44.000 It was a total non-factor altogether, which maybe I'm wrong about that, but to me that's in some ways the most delicious kind of poetic justice, is if they went through all this effort with all the lawfare, and it's like nobody cared at all.
01:25:00.000 It made zero impact because people were just so tuned out of the whole thing.
01:25:07.000 So I actually asked this to Knowles yesterday.
01:25:09.000 Obviously, a lot of people went after Trump and the former Trump administration officials, for example, Steve Bannon.
01:25:15.000 Do you believe the Trump administration moving forward should seek retribution to some people who have broken the law, Democrats who've attacked him, or kind of, you know, be more conciliatory moving forward?
01:25:26.000 Oh, retribution.
01:25:27.000 And do you have anybody in mind in particular?
01:25:32.000 Well, the problem is that the list is so long.
01:25:34.000 I don't know that you could start.
01:25:35.000 And also, in the federal government, the people that are...
01:25:40.000 We opened the show with it, with the FEMA thing.
01:25:43.000 The people that are, in a corrupt way, wielding the power of the federal government in illegal and corrupt ways, we don't even know their names.
01:25:52.000 And should Trump get in there and find these people and root them out, get to the core of it, and...
01:25:57.000 Prosecute them and throw them in jail.
01:25:59.000 Yes, if that's what we mean by retribution, yes, absolutely he needs to do that.
01:26:03.000 And I would even call it retribution.
01:26:05.000 Exactly.
01:26:05.000 It's not even retribution.
01:26:06.000 Because retribution makes it sound petty and personal and like he's only just concerned about the people that annoyed him or frustrated him.
01:26:15.000 No, this is about finding the corrupt people, the people that are breaking the law and holding them accountable.
01:26:22.000 It's about justice, like giving people what they deserve.
01:26:27.000 And that's what it is to me.
01:26:28.000 Yeah, no, I totally agree.
01:26:30.000 When it comes to the lawfare against Donald Trump, too, obviously the left is projecting that's a clear-cut case of retribution.
01:26:35.000 It doesn't have anything to do with an actual crime being committed.
01:26:38.000 And I think part of the reason that the voters who seem to care about that the most were people who were worried about it rather than people who actually thought that the fact that he was a convicted felon carried any water is a product of the fact that, you know, your average voter Isn't all that interested in the abstractions, right?
01:26:54.000 What they're concerned with, again, as we talked about earlier, is the price of butter.
01:26:57.000 Not like, did he fail to properly disclose a specific campaign expenditure, or did his lawyer, and was he aware of this at the time?
01:27:05.000 Nobody cares.
01:27:06.000 Nobody cares.
01:27:07.000 And especially when you consider the fact that the charges that were brought against him were a misdemeanor and then raised to the level of a felony, and then the statute of limit stations was extended.
01:27:16.000 It's just, I don't think people It's so hard to keep track of all the cases against Trump.
01:27:20.000 I'm not even 100% sure of this, but I think the Jack Smith was the classified documents case.
01:27:25.000 There were so many cases against stuff.
01:27:27.000 There was the January 6th stuff.
01:27:28.000 There was the tax stuff in New York.
01:27:31.000 I feel like I'm forgetting a couple.
01:27:32.000 What happened in Georgia again?
01:27:34.000 There was just so many cases.
01:27:35.000 I don't know how the average American could pay attention and keep track of all the cases.
01:27:39.000 I don't think they did.
01:27:39.000 I think he's right.
01:27:40.000 A lot of that stuff just kind of became in the fuzz or whatever.
01:27:43.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
01:27:44.000 Most Americans were like, which case is that again?
01:27:46.000 How many cases are there?
01:27:47.000 Weren't even paying attention.
01:27:47.000 And there was always also this weird messaging problem for Democrats when it came to this, because they were going around saying, oh, you're going to elect a convicted felon?
01:27:57.000 Well, and leave aside the fact that what he was convicted of is totally bogus.
01:28:02.000 I mean, by their own logic?
01:28:21.000 There's always arguments to be made that the left doesn't actually believe in hypocrisy at all.
01:28:27.000 They'll use it against you if you allow them, but they don't actually believe in hypocrisy because they don't believe any of the arguments they make.
01:28:34.000 Their only function is to attain power.
01:28:37.000 So the arguments they make one day will switch as soon as they're no longer functional.
01:28:42.000 So when people say stuff like that, I would just always be like, well, the founders were felons according to the Crown, so up here is Yeah, although, I mean, the left, and that's the thing about it, we say most people think hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another, and that's not actually what hypocrisy is.
01:28:55.000 Hypocrisy is just pretending that you believe something you don't actually believe.
01:28:59.000 And so, in that sense, I mean, these people are hypocrites in the truest sense of the word.
01:29:07.000 Yeah, no, it's very true, and of course it never applies to them.
01:29:10.000 I looked it up.
01:29:10.000 I think Jack Smith was the January 6th case, just to get my cases in order.
01:29:15.000 I just want to mention this.
01:29:16.000 When your values are complete and total licentiousness, it's impossible to be a hypocrite.
01:29:21.000 What standard are you being held to?
01:29:23.000 Well, and when you're a relativist, right?
01:29:25.000 When you believe the truth is relative and we all have our own truth, this is my truth, I'm standing on my truth.
01:29:31.000 And if you actually believe that, which they do, and this is the core of leftism, is that it's relativism, that they really do believe that we all have our own truth and our own reality.
01:29:38.000 And if that's the case, then yeah, you can't really be, there is no double standard because everybody lives in their own universe and has their own standards according to that.
01:29:45.000 If people have different truths, then there is no real truth.
01:29:49.000 You never get on the same page then.
01:29:50.000 Your truth is literally an absurdity.
01:29:53.000 It's self-refuting.
01:29:54.000 There's no such thing as your truth.
01:29:57.000 Yeah.
01:29:58.000 I'm just over here tracking the old results, which we're still waiting for.
01:30:01.000 A couple minutes before we go to Super Chats.
01:30:04.000 Republicans may only end up with 220 right now.
01:30:06.000 Is there an update on Carrie Lake?
01:30:09.000 Carrie Lake doesn't seem to be improving enough as time goes on in Arizona.
01:30:13.000 There's still 83% reporting, 17% left, but she's still down by like 35k.
01:30:19.000 Looks like 34.
01:30:22.000 And so, Charlie Kirk had hope because at the time, with half a million outstanding, she only needed to...
01:30:29.000 She only needed 51% of the remaining to come in for her, and she'd end up winning.
01:30:33.000 But she's still down 34.
01:30:35.000 There's a possibility, but I don't know for sure.
01:30:39.000 Arizona's such an interesting state.
01:30:41.000 They had John McCain as their senator something like a decade ago.
01:30:45.000 To flip over to somebody like Carrie Lake, it's...
01:30:47.000 A bunch of last-minute mail-ins came in for Jackie Rosen, so she won Nevada, defeating Sam Brown.
01:30:53.000 None of these candidates got 39,364.
01:30:56.000 Would you look at that?
01:30:57.000 Wow.
01:30:58.000 And Sam Brown was a war veteran, a combat veteran, I believe.
01:31:01.000 That's pretty wild.
01:31:02.000 Yeah, and so the AP said PA is over, so it's 53, but decision desk won't call it.
01:31:08.000 Bob Casey is not giving up, and he's saying, no, we're going to get it, despite the fact he's down nearly 40,000.
01:31:13.000 And the AP said with the remaining ballots in, they don't come from anywhere that Casey was winning, so there's no point.
01:31:21.000 But, you know...
01:31:23.000 Can't blame him for trying, I guess.
01:31:25.000 Republicans should be doing the same thing.
01:31:26.000 Wisconsin and Michigan are so interesting here because these are states Trump won.
01:31:29.000 Well, what's really fascinating is that Ruben Gallego got more votes than Harris.
01:31:33.000 Like, a lot.
01:31:34.000 Like, a couple hundred thousand more.
01:31:35.000 She's really running below the ticket, huh?
01:31:37.000 Or, well, she was.
01:31:38.000 That's pretty crazy.
01:31:39.000 That is very weird.
01:31:40.000 Yep.
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01:32:31.000 says, gentlemen, just want to mention that while we have made a big win in protecting our democracy this week, the winter arc is upon us soon.
01:32:39.000 Hit the gym, turnpike, the trail, make them speechless.
01:32:42.000 How many of you made your goal of being fit by the election?
01:32:47.000 That was something we had going on on our server, FitCast, where I said everybody should be in shape by the time the election happens.
01:32:54.000 And perhaps because everyone was in shape, Trump won.
01:32:56.000 That's why.
01:32:57.000 What counts as being in shape?
01:32:58.000 What kind of shape are we going for here?
01:33:00.000 We were looking for personal improvement.
01:33:02.000 Personal improvement, yeah.
01:33:03.000 So, you know, like if someone's 300 pounds and you get down to 250, like, hey, that's good.
01:33:07.000 You know, you're working on yourself.
01:33:08.000 That's fantastic.
01:33:08.000 So some people, I think, actually ended up getting ripped.
01:33:11.000 They were like, let's go!
01:33:13.000 And now they can carry two Seamus at once.
01:33:16.000 Wow.
01:33:17.000 That's a hefty load.
01:33:18.000 Two Shamoose.
01:33:19.000 The world couldn't handle two of me.
01:33:21.000 That's right.
01:33:23.000 Garrett Elgus has been watching The Daily Wire for five plus years and Tim Kass for almost two years.
01:33:28.000 Amazing seeing this team up.
01:33:29.000 All my favorite political commentators in one place.
01:33:31.000 Though sadly, I must say, Knowles is my favorite MAGA 2024.
01:33:35.000 I thought you had good taste until the very end there.
01:33:37.000 That's a disgrace.
01:33:38.000 Yeah.
01:33:39.000 Yeah, well, he called you a stone-cold psychopath on the show the other day.
01:33:42.000 He did, yeah.
01:33:44.000 Is that what Noel said?
01:33:44.000 Yeah.
01:33:45.000 You do have an amazing ability to deadpan.
01:33:48.000 Like, the movie was great, and it was really impressive.
01:33:52.000 The point was that the talent of Matt Walsh is your deadpan delivery of your trolling is just, people can't tell if you're serious or not.
01:34:01.000 And then he said, well, he's a stone-cold psychopath.
01:34:04.000 I'll take that as a compliment.
01:34:06.000 Yeah, can I ask you a question about, so, like, when you're in a room surrounded by a bunch of, like, DEI experts and groveling liberals, and you say, you know, I'm sorry, I thought I had 17 black friends, but it might have been 15.
01:34:18.000 Like, what is going through your head in that moment as you're talking to those people?
01:34:22.000 Well, that was the, you apologize.
01:34:24.000 Like, what is happening?
01:34:25.000 I'm, like, curious, like, what's going through your head?
01:34:27.000 Uh, in that moment, I was proud of myself for thinking of that line, so.
01:34:37.000 When you're making a movie, too, you get a line in there or something, and you think, okay, that's going to make it in.
01:34:43.000 That'll make the cut.
01:34:44.000 There's a trailer.
01:34:45.000 Sometimes I'm doing the trailer in my head.
01:34:48.000 That's a trailer moment.
01:34:50.000 Just to clarify, what was so good about it was you initially said you had 17 black friends, and then later on when they got mad at you, you apologized like, it might have been 15.
01:34:59.000 As if that's why they were mad at you.
01:35:01.000 But I'm also curious, too, because I think if I was in that situation, it would be really hard for me not to crack up.
01:35:06.000 Do you not feel any temptation to laugh at all?
01:35:09.000 I do.
01:35:09.000 Yeah, I get that question a lot, but I think that there were certainly moments throughout certain scenes where I had to stifle laughter.
01:35:18.000 In fact, it was kind of convenient because the one scene that, to me, was the funniest in the moment was Race to Dinner, and And I was wearing a mask, a COVID mask for that, so I didn't have to worry as much about keeping a straight face.
01:35:29.000 But usually...
01:35:31.000 Through most of it, in the moment, it's super uncomfortable and awkward, as you can imagine.
01:35:37.000 Yeah.
01:35:37.000 And you also have to keep in mind that, you know, it's five minutes in the movie, but it was an hour and a half in real time.
01:35:45.000 And so it's like exhausting and awkward, and these people are miserable to be around.
01:35:48.000 So it's not a whole lot of fun.
01:35:52.000 And I'm also...
01:35:53.000 A lot of what I'm hearing makes me kind of angry.
01:35:54.000 I'm mad at what they're saying.
01:35:56.000 So it's more of a temptation to start yelling at them.
01:35:58.000 That's fair.
01:35:59.000 You know...
01:36:00.000 So yeah, there's not as much of a temptation as you would think to start laughing.
01:36:04.000 Has anybody in Hollywood reached out and told you they loved your movie yet?
01:36:07.000 Yes.
01:36:07.000 Oh, nice.
01:36:08.000 We'll keep that off the record.
01:36:10.000 We will keep those off the record, but it happened.
01:36:12.000 With Trump winning the popular vote, I think we're going to start seeing that shift where people...
01:36:16.000 You know, we've been having these discussions about with Trump winning this popular vote, do we now storm into the establishment media spaces?
01:36:26.000 Basically, like you go to these advertisers, you go to these production companies and say, you now know for a fact you are the minority market share.
01:36:36.000 If your business wants to make money and operate as a business, the money's here, not there.
01:36:42.000 I don't think a lot of these companies don't actually care about politics in their mind.
01:36:47.000 They're thinking we don't want to be fringe political.
01:36:49.000 So when the leftists were saying, well, they're all white supremacists, these advertisers, these production companies are just like, we don't want to be involved with whatever that is.
01:36:56.000 So just disavow, disavow.
01:36:57.000 Well, now we've got a popular mandate.
01:36:59.000 Trump won the popular vote.
01:37:00.000 Now we can easily just go and say, and look at this, Trump's at 74,254,000 votes.
01:37:06.000 He's hitting his numbers from last time around.
01:37:07.000 Harris is at 70.
01:37:09.000 She's down 11 million.
01:37:11.000 You can now go to these companies and say, hey, guess what?
01:37:14.000 You're on the wrong side of history.
01:37:15.000 You bet on the wrong horse.
01:37:17.000 Come back to the majority market share where the businesses lie and the money is, and we will welcome you, and then we'll displace the wokeness.
01:37:25.000 Yeah.
01:37:26.000 Do you think that will happen or are you wishful thinking?
01:37:30.000 Nope, I don't think it's wishful thinking at all.
01:37:32.000 When Bud Light tanked, Target tanked, Disney lost a billion dollars, you're going to get some business consultant and he's going to say, I don't care about politics, I just want to sell soda.
01:37:42.000 And now you're going to go to Bud Light and you're going to say, you learned your lesson, right?
01:37:46.000 You sided with this minority fringe element thinking they were popular and it burned your company to the ground.
01:37:53.000 Literally.
01:37:53.000 I think we will see that in corporate with brands in the corporate world.
01:37:59.000 I think in the entertainment world, I think it's going to be a while before.
01:38:04.000 There are a lot of people in Hollywood that agree with us and that if they could do whatever they want, they'd make very different kinds of movies.
01:38:13.000 I want to just say...
01:38:15.000 Sorry.
01:38:15.000 Go ahead.
01:38:16.000 No, that was it.
01:38:17.000 As of right now, Donald Trump has surpassed his 2020 total vote count.
01:38:21.000 Interesting.
01:38:21.000 So he currently has more votes now than he got in 2020.
01:38:24.000 Whereas Kamala Harris is currently down just about 11 million votes.
01:38:28.000 How much is California's reporting in?
01:38:30.000 And California's currently at 70%.
01:38:32.000 Oh, wow.
01:38:32.000 And so a lot of people kept saying, where's the 20 million votes for Harris?
01:38:36.000 And I pointed out...
01:38:39.000 At the time, we were only 60% California reporting, so she can expect to get another couple million.
01:38:43.000 I think there's no way she's getting the popular vote, but she may end up with like 71 or 72 million.
01:38:49.000 It's crazy considering how many Biden got.
01:38:51.000 It was 80 plus million?
01:38:52.000 81.
01:38:52.000 81 million in the past election.
01:38:54.000 Indeed.
01:38:55.000 Indeed.
01:38:56.000 Dovac says, can't wait to see all that remains at Sonic Temple.
01:38:59.000 Love you guys and keep it up, Phil.
01:39:01.000 Love hearing your takes and hearing that there are popular musicians who aren't afraid to speak out against the machine.
01:39:05.000 Cheers, man.
01:39:06.000 Thanks.
01:39:07.000 You know, we're not quite the machine, right?
01:39:11.000 We've taken the popular mandate.
01:39:14.000 If these companies are to turn around, do we become the machine?
01:39:18.000 If we're the majority controller of the institutions...
01:39:22.000 It's like Nietzsche says, that when you fight the abyss, you stare into it, don't become it, man.
01:39:29.000 That's actually the point.
01:39:31.000 That's right.
01:39:32.000 You can be in a position of influence without abandoning the principles that the U.S. has been built on.
01:39:44.000 I feel like that's the point of fighting back against all this stuff is not to not to take, you know, take power so we can so we can be oppressive about the things that we want.
01:39:57.000 It's it's to be in positions of influence so that way we can restore a country that respects the rights of everybody and, you know, respects people's differences and says, you know, there are things that we're going to disagree about.
01:40:11.000 But we're not going to, you know, excommunicate people from public life because they have the wrong opinions.
01:40:16.000 Yeah, we're also very far off from even having the temptation to be the machine.
01:40:20.000 This is not a problem that we're going to have anytime soon.
01:40:24.000 Because, you know, to be the machine, you have to own all the institutions.
01:40:29.000 And we just...
01:40:31.000 Conservatives...
01:40:32.000 We're not even close to that at this point.
01:40:35.000 I mean, the institutions are owned by the left still now, and this is a generational—it's a generational fight.
01:40:41.000 It's not going to happen because— We want to battle.
01:40:43.000 They're so much more individualistic than the left wing, who want to work together and who have more—has more affinity towards something like socialism, as opposed to right-wingers who are— They'd rather do it themselves.
01:40:55.000 They don't want to join together and work together.
01:40:57.000 They want to do it themselves as opposed to a left winger who they'd rather go work at an established media, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the right wing guy rather than do it himself.
01:41:05.000 Well, also, it's not just a question of our opinions or perspectives or biases becoming ascendant.
01:41:11.000 It's a question of whether we will lie to people to make that happen and maintain that hegemony.
01:41:18.000 Because the problem with the media isn't simply that they have a bias.
01:41:21.000 That is a problem, but they lie all the time.
01:41:25.000 Yeah.
01:41:25.000 And they demand that you lie.
01:41:27.000 It's more than that.
01:41:28.000 You know, men can become women.
01:41:30.000 No, I'm not ever going to believe that.
01:41:32.000 Like, I might be polite to someone that's trans, but that doesn't mean that I'm ever, ever going to believe that a man can become a woman.
01:41:39.000 Exactly.
01:41:40.000 Did Michael Rapoport end up supporting Trump or no?
01:41:43.000 I believe so, but I'll check.
01:41:44.000 Remember when he did that whole thing where he was like, voting for Donald Trump is on the table?
01:41:48.000 And that was over Israel?
01:41:48.000 Yep.
01:41:49.000 Because right now, Andy Knows reporting that far-off extremists are gathering outside of the Vic Theater in Chicago to shut down his performance over his support for Israel.
01:41:57.000 So comic, Michael Rappaport says he lost.
01:42:00.000 Harris lost his vote over Israel.
01:42:02.000 Yep.
01:42:02.000 When?
01:42:03.000 August 1st.
01:42:03.000 When did he say that?
01:42:04.000 Yeah, but he came back after something happened and said, Trump is off the table!
01:42:08.000 Yeah.
01:42:09.000 It doesn't mean he voted for Harris, but I do think it's funny that these staunch anti-Trump people...
01:42:14.000 It's like, okay, well, Michael Rappaport, you're officially politically homeless.
01:42:19.000 The far left is going after you because you support Israel, and you don't got any allies on the Trump side.
01:42:23.000 Rappaport actually endorsed Donald Trump.
01:42:26.000 When?
01:42:26.000 Looking at...
01:42:27.000 This article came out a week ago.
01:42:29.000 What?
01:42:30.000 I'm looking at Newsweek.
01:42:32.000 Full list of celebrities endorsing Donald Trump, Kid Rock, Mel Gibson, Mel Gibson, and more.
01:42:38.000 But Rappaport was on the list during the November 2023 episode of his I Am Rappaport podcast.
01:42:42.000 The actor said he would vote for Trump if Biden didn't get the Israel-Hamas situation under control.
01:42:46.000 If it comes to pig D Donald Trump and smoking...
01:42:50.000 Yeah, no, no, no.
01:42:52.000 I don't believe that's correct because he came back out later and said his first statement was...
01:42:57.000 Voting for picnic Donald Trump is on the table.
01:43:00.000 And then like two months later, he was like, nope, it's off the table.
01:43:03.000 I'm not doing it.
01:43:03.000 It's not going to happen.
01:43:04.000 So I don't know his official position.
01:43:07.000 And I will say this, though.
01:43:08.000 I'm somebody who's extremely pro-Israel.
01:43:10.000 Michael Rappaport is as well.
01:43:11.000 He makes pro-Israel people I think look so stupid.
01:43:14.000 Some of these pro-Israel advocates are some of the...
01:43:18.000 Aren't doing good for the cause, in my opinion.
01:43:20.000 And I think Michael Rapoport is one of them.
01:43:23.000 I just wanted to put that out there.
01:43:24.000 I don't pay any attention to him.
01:43:25.000 I'm curious, what would you say he does?
01:43:27.000 He's like screaming into a phone very aggressively, super close to his face, and like making dumb faces and just sounding like a whiny little girl.
01:43:34.000 Yeah.
01:43:35.000 I don't know who you're convincing.
01:43:36.000 He gets real close to the camera and then just screams at him.
01:43:39.000 Dumb jokes.
01:43:40.000 I feel like that was his shtick about everything, though.
01:43:42.000 So he's just applying Israel to what his normal shtick is.
01:43:46.000 He's just getting angry on camera.
01:43:48.000 You look stupid and whiny and you aren't making any points and you aren't convincing anybody.
01:43:54.000 Yeah.
01:43:55.000 We'll take the vote nonetheless.
01:43:56.000 Well, let's see what we got here.
01:43:57.000 We got Infinite Soul Daddy saying, we need a Make America Healthy Again culture war episode.
01:44:01.000 Dr.
01:44:02.000 Lane Norton would be ideal as he has both worked in nutrition research and also run a monthly research review, as well as being a champion powerlifter.
01:44:10.000 So excited to see if RFK Jr.
01:44:12.000 gets appointed something health-related in the health administration.
01:44:16.000 I think he will.
01:44:17.000 Yeah.
01:44:18.000 I love how people panic over that, as if we're just doing such a great job with maintaining and promoting health in America.
01:44:26.000 And if we shake that system up, we're screwed.
01:44:28.000 People are so ridiculous.
01:44:30.000 People act as if we got rid of the FDA. That means that nothing would be safe anymore.
01:44:37.000 It's as if liability doesn't still lie with the companies that are producing stuff.
01:44:43.000 Like, oh, they...
01:44:44.000 They would just go ahead and willy-nilly throw razor blades into everything they make and all the food we eat because, you know, no one would sue or anything like that.
01:44:52.000 And another thing is they do that with the Department of Education, too.
01:44:56.000 I'm personally very pro getting rid of the Department of Education entirely.
01:45:00.000 And people act like if we don't have it, people won't be educated.
01:45:04.000 It's like the Department of Education was created in 1979, and there have been zero significant discoveries in physics since 1979.
01:45:13.000 Everything that's been discovered and happened in physics since the creation of the Department of Education has been built on things that we already knew or theories that were already in place.
01:45:23.000 There was zero new discoveries, zero movement in physics since the Department of Education was created.
01:45:30.000 Everything happened before then.
01:45:31.000 So the idea that without the DOE, the Department of Education, that scientific research will stop and people will become foolish to that.
01:45:41.000 That is a result of the Department of Education.
01:45:45.000 People also think they conflate the Department of Education with the public school system.
01:45:50.000 And so they think if you get rid of the Department of Education, you get rid of the public school system.
01:45:53.000 That's not the case at all, of course.
01:45:55.000 The public school system is almost entirely a state-level thing.
01:45:58.000 Now, I'm in favor of getting rid of the public school system, too, personally.
01:46:01.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:46:02.000 But Trump's not talking about doing that.
01:46:04.000 That's the thing we were keeping quiet.
01:46:06.000 I advocate for that all the time.
01:46:10.000 I think the whole public education system is ridiculous and I do not support it.
01:46:16.000 We could do a whole thing.
01:46:19.000 It has utterly failed to actually educate children.
01:46:25.000 Speaking of the Department of Education, one of the only useful things the Department of Education has done in the last I don't know, 30 years?
01:46:33.000 Exactly 20 years ago, they did a report about the sex abuse epidemic in the public school system by educators, by staff members.
01:46:42.000 And they found that, and I don't want to get it wrong, but I think it was something like...
01:46:47.000 One in ten students will experience some form of sexual mistreatment.
01:46:50.000 So whether that's a really inappropriate sexual joke or a teacher touching them.
01:46:54.000 Right.
01:46:55.000 One in ten.
01:46:55.000 That's what I thought it was.
01:46:56.000 One in ten.
01:46:56.000 So you're talking about millions and millions of kids.
01:46:58.000 And that was 20 years ago.
01:47:00.000 And as far as I know, the Department of Education never followed up on that.
01:47:03.000 They have not written that.
01:47:04.000 They have not returned to see what's happened in the last 20 years because nothing was done to solve that problem.
01:47:09.000 And one thing we know is when you have a widespread sex abuse epidemic in an institution, if you don't aggressively try to solve it, it's not going to just go away.
01:47:19.000 It only gets worse.
01:47:20.000 And they've done nothing about that because they're utterly useless.
01:47:24.000 Well, they're open about it.
01:47:25.000 They say they want teachers to have secret conversations about sex with students.
01:47:29.000 I mean, and as far as RFK goes...
01:47:31.000 I'm sorry.
01:47:31.000 I was going to say, the Assistant Secretary for Health right now is currently a man who thinks he could be a woman.
01:47:36.000 Yeah, right.
01:47:36.000 Can't get much worse.
01:47:37.000 And he's overweight, too.
01:47:38.000 Okay.
01:47:39.000 Catald Swift says, prepare the crystals.
01:47:44.000 So for those who don't know, it's a meme where someone said...
01:47:48.000 Some liberal, you know, should be trapped in crystals for 10,000 years, and now Seamus has made, I think, two cartoons where Trump traps liberals in crystals.
01:47:57.000 It is right and just.
01:47:59.000 Traps them in crystals for 10,000 years.
01:48:02.000 It's funny.
01:48:03.000 Some people are saying it's from Elder Scrolls.
01:48:05.000 It's not really, but it's funny nonetheless.
01:48:08.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.
01:48:10.000 All right.
01:48:13.000 Paracius.
01:48:14.000 Is that how you say it?
01:48:15.000 Paralseus?
01:48:15.000 Matt Walsh, is anime still satanic now that the Vatican has an anime mascot?
01:48:19.000 I also remember the Daily Wire simping for Ron DeSantis.
01:48:22.000 Is anime still satanic?
01:48:26.000 You know, some of it.
01:48:29.000 Some of it is.
01:48:31.000 I think science has shown that it was 27% is satanic.
01:48:37.000 That's also in Project 2025.
01:48:40.000 They actually did replicate that several times.
01:48:44.000 Between like 27 and 33.
01:48:46.000 The first chapter of Project 2025 is the case for banning anime in the United States.
01:48:51.000 Most people don't know that.
01:48:52.000 We're going to put tariffs on anime.
01:48:54.000 All the weebs.
01:48:54.000 You got to go.
01:48:55.000 Send them back.
01:48:56.000 I'm a big supporter of animation tariffs as an animator.
01:48:59.000 Yeah.
01:49:00.000 I mean, anime has to be made way more expensive.
01:49:02.000 They're competing with us.
01:49:03.000 Well, don't a lot of these studios hire Korean animators?
01:49:07.000 Oh, in America?
01:49:08.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely.
01:49:09.000 Yeah, a lot of studios.
01:49:10.000 It's true.
01:49:10.000 They're outsourcing animation jobs to Korea.
01:49:12.000 Let me ask this.
01:49:14.000 Because when I made that comment about anime, everyone's like, well, you don't even know what anime is.
01:49:18.000 How do you define anime?
01:49:19.000 Yeah.
01:49:20.000 I said, yeah, I guess I don't really.
01:49:21.000 What is it?
01:49:22.000 I want to say like a Japanese cartoon.
01:49:25.000 Is it any cartoon made in Japan?
01:49:27.000 Is that anime?
01:49:28.000 I believe so.
01:49:29.000 I think anime just means animation.
01:49:31.000 Well, anime references Japanese animation.
01:49:33.000 So if it's in Japan, it's...
01:49:36.000 A cartoon in Japan, we refer to it as anime.
01:49:39.000 Or made in Japan.
01:49:40.000 It has to be made in Japan?
01:49:41.000 I believe so, yeah.
01:49:42.000 I've got Japanese influence, I guess, for the modern day.
01:49:45.000 No, no.
01:49:45.000 People debate.
01:49:46.000 Anime is Japanese cartoons.
01:49:50.000 Okay, so if you're a Japanese person, would you consider Looney Tunes to be anime?
01:49:55.000 No, no.
01:49:56.000 Cartoon.
01:49:57.000 Maybe.
01:49:58.000 However, there was a really funny meme where it was a guy basically saying that a Japanese guy flies to America with Bugs Bunny t-shirts and a Tasmanian devil hat and is walking around talking to people how excited he is to go see the Looney Tunes and we'd all look at that person like a lunatic.
01:50:15.000 And they were like, now you understand what it's like when these Americans fly to Japan and are super excited about Goku and all that stuff.
01:50:21.000 Although the meme isn't necessarily correct.
01:50:23.000 The thing about in Japan with anime is that it's They have more anime and manga than they do live-action shows, although it has been changing in the past, I don't know, couple decades.
01:50:35.000 But it's just like...
01:50:37.000 We have Superman, they have Goku, they have their characters, we have our characters, we have Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse is everywhere.
01:50:43.000 Their shows can be a bit more serious than ours, and they prefer serialized shows more than we do.
01:50:49.000 And Satanism more often, at least 27% of the time.
01:50:52.000 Perhaps, indeed, yes.
01:50:54.000 Right now, I think the biggest problem with it is that, for whatever reason, I don't know enough about it, But the studios are producing like 50 versions of one show, and then there's like 50 different shows, each with 50 versions of the same show, and it's the weirdest thing ever.
01:51:10.000 So if you go to Amazon, for instance, and you look at, say, like the Crunchyroll, there's like 15 shows that are all titled something like, I transported to another dimension where I'm a warrior.
01:51:21.000 And they're titled literally like that.
01:51:23.000 One is like, that time I got reincarnated as a slime.
01:51:27.000 And it's about a guy who dies, goes to a reality where there's goblins and he's a slime and he's got magic powers.
01:51:33.000 Then there's one where it's like, I transported to a mythical world where I level up real fast.
01:51:37.000 I'm not kidding.
01:51:37.000 These are what the titles of the shows are.
01:51:39.000 And they're all basically the same thing, and I'm like, this is the weirdest thing ever.
01:51:42.000 Could you imagine if, like, tomorrow you woke up, and there were 15 shows called The Samson's, The Simpsons, The Simpsons, The Simpsons, The Simpsons.
01:51:50.000 It's all just different versions of The Simpsons, and they're all just like...
01:51:53.000 This is Family Guy and American Dad, and like...
01:51:55.000 Yeah, but like, there's three shows that are comparable, but imagine if they literally all at once, right now, came out with American Dad, American Uncle, American Grandfather, American Son, and you're just like, they're all the same show.
01:52:08.000 That's true.
01:52:08.000 That's what they're doing.
01:52:09.000 It's the weirdest thing.
01:52:11.000 That is weird.
01:52:12.000 Can I just go back to the initial question about me calling anime satanic?
01:52:16.000 Yeah.
01:52:18.000 It's just, it's always funny the things that people latch onto, because that initial comment of mine, I was doing an all-access, it was like two years ago.
01:52:30.000 It's just like a live stream for our subscribers.
01:52:33.000 It was a total just off-the-cuff, offhand remark that meant nothing to me at all.
01:52:37.000 Because someone brought up anime, and I said, that's satanic, whatever.
01:52:41.000 And then I just moved on.
01:52:43.000 And for two years, like that one little sentence, it's just constantly brought up all the time.
01:52:50.000 This has become a defining feature of me, apparently, is my opposition to anime.
01:52:56.000 It's a platform of my...
01:52:59.000 People are committed to anime.
01:53:02.000 One of my favorite memes is Jordan Peterson saying, you have to watch Attack on Titan.
01:53:07.000 Because it actually does sound like something Jordan Peterson would...
01:53:10.000 For those that know what Attack on Titan is about, it's completely plausible that Jordan Peterson would tell people to watch the show.
01:53:16.000 That's like an early AI meme, right?
01:53:18.000 Yeah.
01:53:19.000 If someone got an AI, it really sounded like him.
01:53:21.000 But the thing is that Attack on Titan is about punishing a nation for the sins of the past and people holding grudges.
01:53:28.000 And I'm like, that's very much kind of what Jordan Peterson would talk about.
01:53:31.000 So hearing that...
01:53:33.000 It's believable.
01:53:34.000 I actually would love to sit down and have Jordan Peterson watch a couple episodes and then give us his explanation and understanding of the philosophy around the ideas.
01:53:42.000 It's basically like a group of people terrorize another group of people.
01:53:46.000 Thousands of years later, they're imprisoned.
01:53:47.000 And it's just because they're the bad people who did bad things.
01:53:51.000 It's interesting.
01:53:52.000 More complicated show than that.
01:53:53.000 They're giant monsters that eat people, but that's besides the point.
01:53:55.000 Have you had Jordan on the show?
01:53:56.000 Just for a few minutes on election night.
01:53:59.000 But, you know, the thing is, I've talked to him about it.
01:54:03.000 And he thinks The Culture War is a better show where we actually just will discuss larger ideas and philosophy, whereas this show is we pull up news articles and comment on them.
01:54:12.000 So, you know, we'll see.
01:54:14.000 We'll see.
01:54:14.000 I also think it would be what we need is for...
01:54:19.000 Here's my pitch to you, Matt.
01:54:21.000 Having you and Seamus watch movies and comment on them would be the funniest thing ever.
01:54:28.000 So Seamus and I were hanging out and we were watching, what was that movie called?
01:54:32.000 Oh my gosh.
01:54:33.000 For Sale.
01:54:33.000 And Seamus is just talking during the whole movie, but don't worry, it was funny.
01:54:38.000 Because the movie was just the worst, one of the worst movies ever.
01:54:40.000 And I was like, you know what's funny is like, this movie's intolerable except for Seamus being here and providing the jokes.
01:54:47.000 Now it's actually really funny.
01:54:48.000 I was like, Seamus, you should actually do like a Mystery Science Theater 3000.
01:54:52.000 Mystery Science, shame is 3,000.
01:54:54.000 But I say this to you.
01:54:56.000 There's two movies you need to watch and comment on.
01:54:58.000 I don't know if you'll actually do it, but it's The Craft, the new one.
01:55:01.000 Have you seen it?
01:55:02.000 Oh, man.
01:55:02.000 No.
01:55:03.000 And The Spiral.
01:55:04.000 Okay, so The Craft is the remake.
01:55:07.000 In the 90s, teenage girls are witches or whatever.
01:55:10.000 Yeah, yeah, the witchcraft thing.
01:55:11.000 I've heard of it.
01:55:11.000 Okay, well, the remake, they're super woke.
01:55:13.000 One of the witches is a guy, but trans.
01:55:16.000 And they use magic to turn the bully gay.
01:55:19.000 And the whole thing is just this...
01:55:21.000 David Duchovny turns out to be an evil wizard or something, and he's the patriarchy, and he's like, I'm going to take women's powers away from them or something.
01:55:28.000 And so it's actually just mind-numbingly woke and bad.
01:55:31.000 And the movie The Spiral is about an interracial gay couple that moves into this house, and the neighbor is this Waspy family.
01:55:42.000 And then it turns out the Waspy family are immortal because they...
01:55:47.000 Spoilers.
01:55:50.000 I'm telling you what it's about.
01:55:52.000 They trick interracial gay couples into moving into the house so they can they need human sacrifices to be immortal.
01:56:00.000 And they they can easily get people to turn against the minorities.
01:56:05.000 So that's what they do.
01:56:06.000 I like hearing you guys like comment on these would be absolutely hilarious.
01:56:12.000 Hearing you tell Matt Walsh that he needs to watch this movie is hilarious.
01:56:16.000 So he needs to take their life force or something?
01:56:20.000 But why do they need to be interracial and also gay?
01:56:23.000 In the movie, at the end, he says something like...
01:56:28.000 You can't just sacrifice anybody because people will find out and they'll be mad that you did it.
01:56:32.000 But when you bring a marginalized group in, and he literally says this, and I watched it, I can't remember, it's been a long time, it's a Shudder film.
01:56:38.000 He's like, maybe they're Muslim or gay or trans or black, but no one seems to care when they go.
01:56:45.000 Those would all be hashtags.
01:56:46.000 Those would all be hashtags the next day.
01:56:49.000 Everyone in the country would be talking about it for weeks.
01:56:52.000 I could be getting the movie wrong because I watched it.
01:56:53.000 I couldn't actually watch it, so it was on.
01:56:57.000 So as long as it's one of the only groups that anyone actually cares about when they die.
01:57:01.000 Dude, I would actually be more interested in remaking that movie Netflix-style where we swap the races.
01:57:06.000 Yeah, you gotta lower middle-aged white men.
01:57:09.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:57:10.000 They never get the hashtag.
01:57:12.000 Never!
01:57:12.000 They never remember their name.
01:57:14.000 It never happens.
01:57:15.000 Say his name.
01:57:16.000 Alright, let's grab this one.
01:57:17.000 IsThisDom says, Matt Walsh, you were recommended an anime that you were bound to hate.
01:57:21.000 It was a poor choice.
01:57:22.000 Watch Vinland Saga.
01:57:23.000 I watched One Punch Man.
01:57:27.000 Oh, that was great.
01:57:28.000 Did you like it?
01:57:30.000 No.
01:57:31.000 One Punch Man is mocking anime.
01:57:34.000 Well, okay, but can I make the argument against it?
01:57:36.000 Sure.
01:57:36.000 It's just weird, man.
01:57:39.000 That's my whole argument.
01:57:40.000 It's just weird.
01:57:41.000 I don't know.
01:57:41.000 I tried to watch it.
01:57:42.000 It was just weird.
01:57:43.000 The issue, I suppose, is you're watching a show that's intentionally mocking anime, and it's like, if you watch anime, and then you watch...
01:57:49.000 If you've never seen anime, you're like, is this an anime?
01:57:51.000 Well, no.
01:57:52.000 One Joint Man is meant to insult and mock anime.
01:57:54.000 It's hilarious.
01:57:55.000 So it's all a gag.
01:57:58.000 Okay, so what's the anime that I should watch?
01:58:00.000 Dragon Ball Z. No.
01:58:05.000 Pokemon's fantastic.
01:58:06.000 Pokemon's not an anime.
01:58:07.000 Digimon.
01:58:07.000 Digimon.
01:58:08.000 Don't listen to these people.
01:58:09.000 Death Note.
01:58:11.000 Don't listen to these people.
01:58:12.000 Death Note is about a high school student.
01:58:14.000 One day he finds a notebook that was dropped by a death god that if he writes their name in it, they'll die.
01:58:21.000 And then he begins to develop this Machiavellian scheme to massacre people all across the world.
01:58:29.000 Did you tell me that?
01:58:30.000 I did tell you to watch this.
01:58:32.000 And this is considered one of the best anime manga shows.
01:58:35.000 It's much more serious.
01:58:37.000 It's really well done.
01:58:40.000 And I'm going to spoil a little bit so I can get an idea.
01:58:43.000 He's intentionally killing people in a way that people will recognize a pattern so that they fear that someone has supernatural powers to murder.
01:58:50.000 That's what he wants them to believe.
01:58:52.000 So when the investigators are looking at people and trying to figure it out, with one hand, he's doing his homework.
01:58:57.000 With his other hand, he's reaching into potato chips and writing names down.
01:59:03.000 I recommend it.
01:59:04.000 People love Death Note.
01:59:05.000 It's good.
01:59:06.000 You know what it is?
01:59:07.000 A lot of it is just, I just can't get into the cartoons.
01:59:10.000 I can't believe it.
01:59:12.000 Well...
01:59:14.000 A cartoon can be funny.
01:59:15.000 I can laugh, but if I want to get invested in the story...
01:59:21.000 I don't know.
01:59:22.000 There's this wall that's put up.
01:59:23.000 I feel the same way about musicals.
01:59:25.000 You know, you need the suspension of disbelief.
01:59:27.000 I think that's what you're missing here.
01:59:29.000 But he's saying that musicals just don't allow that for us.
01:59:33.000 Yeah, once they start singing, I'm like, well, now I'm aware that I'm watching a thing.
01:59:37.000 And it's a little bit that, too, with cartoons.
01:59:41.000 So a funny cartoon, like South Park's Lair, so I can watch that and laugh.
01:59:44.000 But if I'm supposed to get invested in the story, I have trouble...
01:59:48.000 And they're big because they're serialized.
01:59:51.000 You know, you can't just watch an episode.
01:59:54.000 One of the mistakes that they made in the 90s when they tried bringing anime to the United States is that they didn't understand this.
01:59:59.000 The Americans were like, when we do cartoons, it doesn't matter.
02:00:02.000 You watch one episode, you watch them all.
02:00:03.000 At the end of the episode, everything goes back to normal.
02:00:05.000 So they transported some anime over, and they just spattered the episodes out randomly, and it made literally no sense.
02:00:12.000 So you're like trying to watch, and you're like, one episode, the guy's flying, the next one, the guy's made of cheese.
02:00:16.000 So I have a question.
02:00:16.000 What?
02:00:17.000 Is there any example of...
02:00:19.000 So is this an American thing?
02:00:21.000 Like in America, we think of cartoons as it's a funny thing.
02:00:24.000 Yeah.
02:00:25.000 Like they're only funny.
02:00:26.000 So are there examples of American cartoon shows that are not...
02:00:31.000 Avatar.
02:00:33.000 It's kind of anime-inspired, though.
02:00:35.000 Right.
02:00:35.000 But it's American, yeah.
02:00:37.000 Yeah, so Avatar and they have that series.
02:00:41.000 There's three seasons, and it's critically acclaimed.
02:00:43.000 It's an amazing show, actually.
02:00:44.000 And then they have The Legend of Korra, which is pretty good.
02:00:46.000 And it's fun.
02:00:48.000 And those are American, they're not anime?
02:00:49.000 Yeah.
02:00:49.000 They are American shows made by Nickelodeon in the style of anime, but still animated.
02:00:56.000 I think they're made by Asian Americans, too.
02:00:57.000 I don't know if that changes the calculus.
02:00:59.000 I don't know if that changes.
02:01:00.000 I'm talking about an American cartoon, American style that's not funny.
02:01:05.000 It's just supposed to be a drama or action or something.
02:01:07.000 There's plenty that aren't funny, but yeah.
02:01:11.000 Like Simpsons after season 10.
02:01:13.000 It's so true, dude.
02:01:14.000 It's crazy how fast that show fell off.
02:01:17.000 Yeah, most American cartoons are just considered just to be funny.
02:01:21.000 I'm trying to think, and someone will try to do a dramatic element to them, like Rick and Morty would do that thing.
02:01:27.000 That's a comedy.
02:01:28.000 That's pure comedy.
02:01:29.000 That's why I said element.
02:01:31.000 Oh, Samurai Jack.
02:01:31.000 That's literally my point.
02:01:32.000 It's a comedy, but they'll try to have a serious element.
02:01:34.000 Samurai Jack's also kind of anime-inspired.
02:01:37.000 I feel like this is probably also made by an Asian American.
02:01:39.000 Samurai Jack looks nothing like anime.
02:01:41.000 It's a totally American style.
02:01:43.000 It is a more American style.
02:01:44.000 It's not made by an Asian, actually.
02:01:46.000 It's all about fighting, and it's about a samurai, and there's clearly Asian inspiration there.
02:01:52.000 Sure, sure, but it's an American cartoon that is not funny.
02:01:55.000 Yeah, I'm trying to think.
02:01:57.000 There's probably a couple kids' shows that maybe fall into that category that are more educational.
02:02:02.000 Invincible is one.
02:02:06.000 Invincible is a new show on Amazon, which is a superhero show.
02:02:10.000 Actually, Fairpoint, Justice League, Spider-Man, X-Men, all the superhero stuff.
02:02:14.000 They're all serialized and they're not comedy.
02:02:16.000 I guess I should have said...
02:02:18.000 Justice League isn't serialized.
02:02:19.000 It's partly, but the original X-Men series in 97 was.
02:02:24.000 They brought it back.
02:02:25.000 So Disney...
02:02:27.000 And actually, yeah, What If?
02:02:28.000 Disney's Marvel What If?
02:02:30.000 I think it's three seasons, and it's 3D cartoon-style animation.
02:02:36.000 Anyway, we're talking about cartoons now.
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02:03:55.000 That's pretty much it.
02:03:55.000 I wanted to ask Matt Walsh, did you ever get an answer to Are You Racist?
02:03:58.000 Did anybody ever...
02:03:59.000 He is, yeah.
02:04:00.000 I mean, yeah, I got an answer.
02:04:01.000 That was an easy one for him to answer.
02:04:03.000 The answer was yes, it turns out.
02:04:04.000 Oh, okay.
02:04:04.000 Gee whiz.
02:04:06.000 And also, one last thing.
02:04:08.000 It looks like Charlie Kirk shouted you out, Matt, saying that we need to recognize Matt Walsh for his role on the landslide.
02:04:14.000 Matt courageously and effectively set out on a one-man mission to expose the trans mafia at great personal risk to himself with the film What is a Woman?
02:04:21.000 And then he shows this data showing that the...
02:04:25.000 It greatly informed people on what was going on.
02:04:28.000 Yeah, so congratulations again, sir.
02:04:31.000 Well, that's a high compliment coming from Charlie Kirk, of course.
02:04:34.000 I mean, if you were to point to individual people outside of the Trump campaign, or Trump himself responsible for Trump's victory, I mean, Charlie Kirk is like at the top of that list.
02:04:44.000 I mean, that's...
02:04:44.000 Yeah.
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