Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - GOP Office TORCHED, Terror Suspected, Elon Says ARREST Dem Funders w-Winston Marshall | Timcast IRL

00:02:22.000 The GOP office in New Mexico appears to have been set on fire in an act of terrorism.

00:02:28.000 Leftist graffiti was found likening ICE to the KKK, and I think the fair assessment is that it was a terror attack on the GOP.

00:02:36.000 We don't know for sure just yet, but it looks like that is the case.

00:02:39.000 Elon Musk is now calling for those funding the attacks on Tesla, the protests, to be criminally charged.

00:02:46.000 He says, don't just go after the puppets, go after the people that are setting them on the loose.

00:02:51.000 So it's pretty crazy, my friends.

00:02:53.000 And then, because it's funny, Donald Trump has MSNBC losing their minds because he said he's not joking he's going to run for a third term, which he can't do and likely would not happen.

00:03:03.000 But simply by saying it, you know, he's shifting the news cycle and tricking Democrats into talking about something else.

00:03:11.000 I wonder why.

00:03:12.000 I wonder why.

00:03:13.000 And then, you know, in Seattle, it's almost as bad as Delaware.

00:03:17.000 They have a massive multimillion, $40 million deficit.

00:03:20.000 Because all of these companies are fleeing.

00:03:22.000 So we're going to talk about all of that stuff, my friends.

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00:05:52.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Winston Marshall.

00:05:56.000 Hi, great to be back on the show and a special hello to your wonderful viewers.

00:06:00.000 I had a wonderful time with you down in Austin last time and it's great to see the actual lad pad.

00:06:05.000 Absolutely! Who are you?

00:06:06.000 What do you do?

00:06:07.000 I am a musician from London.

00:06:09.000 I have a show, a politics show called the Winston Marshall Show and we cover similar topics but obviously a lot more British stuff as well, what's going on in Britain.

00:06:18.000 Europe, a lot of populism stuff, and general, the fight back, as you have been doing over here, although ours is a lot less promising in Britain.

00:06:27.000 Our fight back seems to be just going incredibly badly, and any opposition are constantly within their own little civil wars going on.

00:06:36.000 So, yeah, Europe is in quite some trouble, but we kind of cover that over there.

00:06:42.000 Aside from being a learned man with a political show, you're actually quite a successful musician, in fact.

00:06:47.000 Oh, if you say so.

00:06:48.000 Absolutely. Well, I very much enjoy listening to your music, Tim.

00:06:51.000 Oh, thank you.

00:06:52.000 And it's very much the kind of music I was listening to in the 90s when I was a kid.

00:06:56.000 Yeah. So I've kind of got a little bit sentimental hearing it.

00:07:01.000 But yeah, I was in a band called Mumford& Sons for 14 years and we had a great time and made a few records toward your great country.

00:07:12.000 We never played in West Virginia.

00:07:13.000 I'm very happy to be here finally in West Virginia with you.

00:07:16.000 We played probably about 40 states otherwise, so saw a lot of it and that's where I grew to love your country.

00:07:23.000 West Virginia particularly.

00:07:25.000 Well, it's gonna be fun.

00:07:26.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:07:27.000 We got Libby hanging out as well. 0.96

00:07:29.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:07:29.000 I'm hanging out.

00:07:30.000 Nice to see you again, Winston.

00:07:32.000 It's been a minute.

00:07:34.000 I'm with the Postmillennial and humanevents.com.

00:07:37.000 Yes, it is.

00:07:39.000 I am here normally doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.

00:07:42.000 But I am here filling in for Phil tonight.

00:07:45.000 Phil Engen.

00:07:46.000 Phil Engen!

00:07:48.000 All right, let's get to the news, my friends.

00:07:50.000 From the AP, the first story, this is crazy.

00:07:53.000 Fire at New Mexico GOP headquarters under investigation as arson.

00:07:59.000 Yeah, okay, there's graffiti where it says ice equals KKK, and I'm pretty sure everybody knows exactly what this is.

00:08:07.000 The temperature in this country has been slowly coming to a boil, and Hopefully it does not get worse than this, but considering the Tesla attacks, we have this story from the AP.

00:08:18.000 A fire that damaged the entryway to the New Mexico Republican Party headquarters in Albuquerque is being investigated as arson.

00:08:23.000 No suspects have been named in the Sunday morning blaze, but that's under investigation by local authorities, the FBI, and the ATF.

00:08:30.000 Incendiary materials were found on the scene, according to an ATF spokesperson.

00:08:35.000 Spray paint on the side of the building read ICE equals KKK, said Lieutenant Jason Fayor.

00:08:41.000 With Albuquerque Fire Rescue, Fayer said federal officials were taking over the arson investigation.

00:08:47.000 During a Monday press conference in front of the burned entryway, which was covered with plywood and had two burned doors propped against it, Republican leaders described the fire as a deliberate attack.

00:08:56.000 They sought to link the blaze to an ongoing crime crisis in New Mexico, including a shooting earlier this month in Las Cruces that left three people dead.

00:09:03.000 Republican lawmakers have recently urged Democratic Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham to exercise her authority to bring the legislators back to the Capitol to seek solutions to the violence.

00:09:14.000 But this seems political.

00:09:15.000 We don't see these attacks on Democrat facilities.

00:09:18.000 No, we don't.

00:09:20.000 We don't typically see that.

00:09:21.000 And it's interesting that for four years you had Democrats freaking out about January 6th because that was actually the only thing they could point to.

00:09:28.000 And every time you have leftists going after Republicans, it's months and months of stuff.

00:09:33.000 You can hardly even count how many incidents there are.

00:09:37.000 Also, the average person just doesn't hear about it.

00:09:40.000 They just don't.

00:09:41.000 They just don't hear about this stuff.

00:09:43.000 Why? Because it just doesn't show up on, you know, CNN and ABC and CBS and PBS.

00:09:52.000 There's one thing I'll note on this, and I've been following what's going on with the Tesla attacks, that there's only one prominent Democrat, I think maybe only one Democrat, full stop, who's spoken out against that, and that's Ro Khanna.

00:10:05.000 And I looked into this.

00:10:07.000 Pelosi has been asked about it but has kind of avoided answering the question: why is it so hard to not condemn this stuff?

00:10:16.000 How can we expect it to stop?

00:10:19.000 Why are they so terrified in condemning it?

00:10:22.000 And I mean, Pelosi, if someone like that, we remember what happened in Portland.

00:10:28.000 Stopped the National Guard from going in, even Trump sent her in, so she has a record there. 0.93

00:10:36.000 But the other thing, if I can zoom out for one moment on this, is I remember in the heady days of January 2025 when I was told Woke is dead.

00:10:45.000 I was told that this election means that Woke has finally been defeated and Trump had all these executive orders to anti-Woke, but we're seeing what I remember in 2020 as the extreme So, the woke being dead thing is a reference to Trump gutting it institutionally,

00:11:12.000 Meaning these institutions should not be implementing DEI policies and things like this.

00:11:15.000 Yes. And private corporations abandoning this stuff.

00:11:19.000 But in terms of what they're doing amongst themselves and how they react to it, at the administrative level, they are still attacking through lawfare.

00:11:27.000 And in the street level, they are still engaged in violence.

00:11:29.000 Yes. So what I see here is that things like Trump won the war on DEI.

00:11:35.000 He won the war on some of these other specific topics.

00:11:37.000 Let's say Me Too.

00:11:38.000 There's no chance of that coming back.

00:11:40.000 But if we're seeing this emerging here, I think that we'll see Woke come out with a new face.

00:11:45.000 I think this is just the beginning.

00:11:46.000 We're only two months in.

00:11:47.000 I mean, even at the policy level, I don't even necessarily know if you could say that he defeated them because a lot of it is these companies are just shifting definitions.

00:11:55.000 They're making their corporate structure around these types of policies even more opaque and hard to define.

00:12:01.000 So it gets reimagined as bridge rather than DEI, things like that.

00:12:05.000 But stuff like this, it's kind of analogous to what's going on in Hollywood.

00:12:55.000 It's going to get worse, especially as the weather gets nicer and it's easier for people to go outside.

00:13:00.000 Riot season.

00:13:01.000 It's riot season.

00:13:02.000 Yeah, and they didn't need to do all the riots during Biden because they were getting what they wanted.

00:13:06.000 But I do think it's important to remember that even though we are going to see this kind of violence and even though we see it with this GOP headquarters and all of the Teslas and the Tesla dealerships and all of the boomers going around dancing and thinking that they're actually getting something done, it's still a relatively small amount of people. 0.51

00:13:21.000 And these are the small amount of people that make a huge difference.

00:13:25.000 That's true.

00:13:27.000 People dancing in front of the Tesla, that coordinated dance or whatever?

00:13:30.000 Yeah, it was hot.

00:13:32.000 It was so hot.

00:13:32.000 Well, I'd appreciate it if that's all they did.

00:13:34.000 I'd be like, oh, well, you got me.

00:13:36.000 Well, if you want to go dance around in front of Tesla or protest, you know, protest, but don't be destroying people's property and don't be, you know, going in and disrupting all of the business.

00:13:46.000 Make your point in a politically protest-y type of way, as is traditionally done.

00:13:51.000 What was worse, that or the dancing nurses during COVID?

00:13:54.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:13:55.000 Well, the dancing nurses were dancing. 1.00

00:13:56.000 Dancing on graves.

00:13:57.000 Yeah, that was pretty bad.

00:13:59.000 The doctors were almost worse than the nurses, too.

00:14:02.000 Yeah, there were videos of, there were some black women who were filming, and they were like, is this why I can't get any service right now? 0.82

00:14:10.000 And they were filming people producing a dance.

00:14:14.000 So it's like, people who actually need help at a hospital were looking at nurses staging a dance instead of doing their jobs. 0.61

00:14:21.000 That was just disgusting. 0.99

00:14:23.000 Disgusting. And then musicians who should have been playing shows where people could actually dance are shut down because they weren't allowed to perform. 0.96

00:14:29.000 But that's okay, because they were playing Imagine, each of them, in a remote location.

00:14:34.000 I mean, that's the real reason people should be mad at Gal Gadot.

00:14:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I found that offensive, the Imagine from your beautiful backyard.

00:14:42.000 I'm like, stuck in my apartment.

00:14:44.000 She's not American, though, so she probably doesn't understand as much as we do how awful that song is.

00:14:49.000 I remember at that time, the W.H.O.

00:14:53.000 Can you come and play for us?

00:14:55.000 This is right at the beginning of the pandemic.

00:14:57.000 Can you come and play for us?

00:14:58.000 Because we're trying to, you know, send love or whatever.

00:15:02.000 And what they were actually doing was trying to whitewash their own reputation, band wash, artist wash their reputation, using people like Lady Gaga and everything to, I mean, it's a bit of a tangential point.

00:15:15.000 Like play where?

00:15:16.000 Like at events?

00:15:17.000 Play from your bedroom.

00:15:20.000 They were streaming their little concerts like--The ultimate bed in.

00:15:22.000 I mean, that should have been, you know, that should have been the thing.

00:15:25.000 It's like an homage to Lennon and Yoko.

00:15:28.000 I've come to America and I don't think it's quite reconciled itself with what happened From 2020, through the pandemic, through BLM, all the people killed in that period, all the damage done.

00:15:41.000 It just, I feel like it's being, it's been completely ignored and memory hauled by liberal types.

00:15:47.000 And I think even conservatives, it's like, we don't want to go back there.

00:15:50.000 It's too tiring.

00:15:51.000 It's not just the conservatives, and it's not just the liberals, it's readers.

00:15:54.000 Readers don't want to read it.

00:15:56.000 Yeah, when we run stuff at the Postmillennial about like, rehash of COVID, here's some stuff that were revealed now and then.

00:16:03.000 If, if You know, people are interested in it.

00:16:05.000 But when you say somebody has finally admitted that the, you know, virus was perhaps created in a lab in Wuhan, everyone's just like, meh.

00:16:14.000 Like, well, we knew that.

00:16:15.000 We knew that.

00:16:16.000 Yeah. A lot of people didn't, though.

00:16:19.000 But like readers of the Postmillennial, they are pretty smart.

00:16:22.000 They knew that, you know, or the stuff about, you know, lockdowns were not actually effective.

00:16:28.000 Masking was bad.

00:16:29.000 Pulling kids out of school was not a good thing.

00:16:31.000 Everyone's like, yeah, like welcome to four years ago.

00:16:34.000 Arguably, the only people who they'd want to hear, like your reader specifically, the only people they would want to hear that from are people who don't write from the post-millennial.

00:16:42.000 They'll want to hear it from people who took the opposing perspective back in 2020.

00:16:46.000 They don't want to hear it from people who always knew.

00:16:48.000 They want to hear it from people who wouldn't admit it before and need to.

00:16:51.000 Yeah, wait for Gavin's next podcast episode.

00:16:54.000 When the New York Times finally ran that story, everyone said, how dare you?

00:16:57.000 Like, what do you take us for?

00:17:00.000 What was it, like, we were all fooled or whatever?

00:17:03.000 We? It was you.

00:17:04.000 You guys tried to fool us.

00:17:06.000 I'm wondering, the violence that we're seeing, so spring has only just begun.

00:17:10.000 Spring has just sprung.

00:17:11.000 Spring has just sprung.

00:17:12.000 And the terror attacks were happening well before spring started, which is uncharacteristic.

00:17:19.000 Typically, the riders wait till it's warm out.

00:17:22.000 But they were actually coming out while it was still cold, which has me worried that we might actually see a potentially hot summer.

00:17:28.000 A lot of violence.

00:17:29.000 Depends on if there's like a really, really bad precipitating incident like in 2020.

00:17:34.000 Like the George Floyd thing?

00:17:35.000 Yeah. Well, I mean, you lock people in their homes for several months, then give them a George Floyd, and anything that can be a catalyst or a spark for their anger that already exists.

00:17:44.000 It's also weird because to me, I was always kind of led to believe growing up, if you're not politically inclined, you're led to believe that the right is the violent side.

00:17:53.000 Right. Mainly because of stuff in the 90s.

00:17:57.000 White supremacist extremism.

00:17:59.000 There's actually going to be a Timothy McVeigh movie coming out this year that I'm very, very interested to see.

00:18:05.000 I don't know who that is.

00:18:07.000 He's... Well, you're British. 0.96

00:18:09.000 Oklahoma City bombing in 93. So there's a movie coming out about it.

00:18:16.000 Yeah, which is where, you know, between that and other things that happened in America in the 90s, the right gets that idea of being politically more violent.

00:18:26.000 He's the one who wrote that manifesto on technology, right?

00:18:29.000 That was him?

00:18:29.000 The Unabomber?

00:18:30.000 That was the Unabomber.

00:18:31.000 I went down a rabbit hole reading about Ted Kuczynski.

00:18:35.000 Wasn't he like anthrax attacks?

00:18:37.000 Who? Let's jump to this next story from Fortune.

00:19:06.000 Elon Musk calls for the arrest of those he claims are funding anti-Tesla protests.

00:19:12.000 I appreciate Fortune for actually getting it right, because even though Elon Musk said those funding it, almost every outlet reported he was calling for the organizers to be arrested.

00:19:22.000 There's a big difference.

00:19:23.000 Because Elon has accused Soros and Reid Hoffman, among others, of indirectly funding these protests.

00:19:31.000 They say an emboldened Elon Musk is ratcheting up pressure on the anti-Tesla demonstrations.

00:19:35.000 They say since Sunday, on Sunday, Musk, whose company is expected to report on Wednesday its worst quarterly car sales, thanks fortune, did not seem satisfied with leaving it there.

00:19:44.000 He argued going after low-level perps is the law enforcement equivalent of whack-a-mole.

00:19:50.000 Lock one up for criminal for 20 years, another will pop up.

00:19:53.000 In his view, they are little more than pawns acting at the behest of Tesla CEO's wealthy Democratic opponents.

00:19:58.000 They say arresting their puppets and paid foot soldiers won't stop there.

00:20:02.000 It's time to arrest those funding the attacks.

00:20:04.000 Former Wall Street Journal reporter Asrat Nomani fed these suspicions this weekend when she claimed to have found evidence of at least two dozen largely tax exempt organizations, all supposedly aligned with the Democratic Party, were compensating protesters for their time.

00:20:18.000 Her allegations were picked up by the Trump friendly outlets Fox News and Zero Hedge as evidence the protests are not genuine, but astroturf.

00:20:24.000 So the important thing here is, they mentioned LinkedIn co-founder forced to deny Musk's claim of involvement, but Elon said, I consider this to be worrying escalation.

00:20:56.000 Worrying escalation from Elon Musk?

00:20:58.000 In the culture war in general?

00:21:01.000 Yeah. Well, I mean, if it's true that they're funding these protests which turn violent or inspire violence, drum this sentiment up, that's terrifying all the same.

00:21:11.000 And I'm not saying Elon Musk's wrong to say go after people that are funding these protests or anything like that.

00:21:15.000 The challenge is, these protests are not the same as the terror attacks.

00:21:22.000 If somebody wants to provide resources so people can protest, what are you going to do about it?

00:21:26.000 Yeah, that's a free speech thing.

00:21:27.000 Absolutely. And then if people, after the fact, engage in terror because the sentiment was built up by these protests, we know what the Democrat megadonors are wanting to do, should it be the case.

00:21:38.000 You don't fund these things.

00:21:40.000 Is he definitely saying defund the protests?

00:21:42.000 Or is he, was that a sort of, maybe he got the wording wrong and he meant to say the attacks on Teslas?

00:21:49.000 What do you mean?

00:21:50.000 He says arrest the people funding it.

00:21:53.000 Arresting their puppets and paid foot soldiers won't stop the violence.

00:21:56.000 It's time to arrest those funding the attacks.

00:21:59.000 Right. But you're saying funding the protests shouldn't...

00:22:04.000 It's fine to fund a protest, and he says the protests, but later he says the attacks and the violence.

00:22:08.000 So he might be using the word protest synonymously with the attacks and violence.

00:22:12.000 Right. When you're saying protests is fine, attacks and violence is a problem.

00:22:15.000 Oh, sorry.

00:22:16.000 Presumably, you do think it's a good idea to stop funding the attacks and violence.

00:22:21.000 That's not an escalation to arrest those people.

00:22:23.000 But I agree, it seems that using them interchangeably, as he goes on to say, Reid will have many layers between himself and the organizations attacking me.

00:22:31.000 But the probability is 100% that Reid is funding them.

00:22:34.000 So if these organizations are attacking him, and he is saying, funding the attacks, I don't know if he thinks that the terror attacks are being funded by somebody, because he's never expressed that.

00:22:46.000 He's saying outright the attacks in general, I think he's using them interchangeably.

00:22:49.000 Yes. And that's a problem too because that's something that people who are more in line with their cause are going to seize on and say that it's a free speech issue and they're going to say that he's trying to shut down dissenting opinions when what he's actually trying to say is that he wants the violence to stop.

00:23:04.000 Right. That's a messaging issue.

00:23:05.000 He probably wants the protests to stop also.

00:23:08.000 But he should understand that it's bad optics to do that.

00:23:12.000 But in his mind, it's all sort of an attack.

00:23:14.000 I mean, Tim Waltz saying that he was enjoying seeing the Tesla stock tank was an attack.

00:23:20.000 And of course, you know, we've seen that all over the place.

00:23:24.000 Jasmine Crockett, is that an attack?

00:23:26.000 Is all of this an attack?

00:23:27.000 Which part is the attack?

00:23:28.000 I don't know how any of this could be happening, because how can Democrats have mega donors?

00:23:32.000 because they keep talking about oligarchs and billionaires.

00:23:34.000 And I can't imagine there are any actual democratic oligarchs and billionaires.

00:23:38.000 That just wouldn't make any sense.

00:23:41.000 One thing that might be the case is that there's a link between USAID and something, and I don't have any conclusive evidence of that.

00:23:50.000 However, USAID were funding the Tides Foundation, which is a foundation that Soros has also founded, that to the tune of $27 million was giving money to the Black Lives Matter.

00:24:02.000 So there is a history there of funding.

00:24:05.000 Tides also was funding some of the anti-Israel stuff.

00:24:09.000 Was it really?

00:24:10.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

00:24:11.000 Which stuff?

00:24:11.000 The Columbia University stuff?

00:24:12.000 They were in there somewhere.

00:24:14.000 I remember we had reporting on that, and I'm not remembering exactly what.

00:24:18.000 So you're saying that this could actually be worse right now if it wasn't for the gutting of USAID?

00:24:24.000 Theoretically. Well, it'd be interesting if he was more clear about exactly where the funding's coming from.

00:24:30.000 It was the campus stuff.

00:24:33.000 Yeah. Across all the universities across the country.

00:24:36.000 Across universities in the US.

00:24:38.000 I guess it would be interesting to see, you know, It's easy to say George Soros funds everything, but you actually want to see, like, how exactly is the Open Societies Foundation funding them?

00:24:47.000 So what I'd ask of Elon, what I want to know is how, you know, he's alleging that Reid Hoffman is funding them.

00:24:54.000 How exactly?

00:24:55.000 He says that it eventually goes 100% it traces all the way back to Reid Hoffman, but let's see that line, like, expose that line, because then it's clear.

00:25:03.000 Otherwise it's all quite nebulous and it's even opaque, counter by Musk.

00:25:09.000 I think that's actually one...

00:25:11.000 I mean, I think that type of language is a problem right now, right?

00:25:13.000 When you make claims without the ability to actually prove that that's what's going on, then it just falls in line with political rhetoric rather than actually trying to root out a problem that's going on, and people are going to take that as being politically biased to one side.

00:25:26.000 I mean, why not also arrest the people doing the violence?

00:25:31.000 They actually should be arrested.

00:25:33.000 I think his point is that more will just start popping up.

00:25:37.000 It's not going to stop.

00:25:38.000 But they should all be arrested and charged with felonies.

00:25:40.000 And even the low-tier stuff, like that woman, she put gum on the car. 1.00

00:25:45.000 People don't understand that it's an electronic mechanism used to open Tesla car doors.

00:25:50.000 It was in the handle.

00:25:51.000 Yeah, and that breaks it.

00:25:53.000 If it was a Model S, because they flatten and they stick out, when you walk up and the car's open, they all just come out and the windows drop a little bit.

00:26:02.000 It's kind of weird.

00:26:03.000 But the other models have the push mechanism, which could still be damaged by the gum.

00:26:07.000 She was trying to break the car. 1.00

00:26:08.000 Yeah. Did you see that one amazing...

00:26:12.000 She got a felony. 0.98

00:26:13.000 What's the big Tesla called?

00:26:14.000 The Silver Cybertruck.

00:26:16.000 And someone put a big Toyota sticker on the back.

00:26:18.000 Yeah. It was absolutely fantastic.

00:26:20.000 Well, I mean, they're scared of terror attacks.

00:26:21.000 Well, there's also signs in New York, like in the 80s, there would be signs in people's cars.

00:26:25.000 People would have like these signs, no radio.

00:26:28.000 So that people wouldn't break in and steal it.

00:26:30.000 And now people have signs like, you know, I'm descended from Holocaust survivors.

00:26:34.000 We're not Nazis.

00:26:35.000 We bought the car a long time ago.

00:26:37.000 It was to help the environment.

00:26:38.000 Please don't mess up my car.

00:26:40.000 In San Francisco, people have been leaving their hatchbacks open so that when the criminals come, they don't smash out the windows.

00:26:46.000 They just walk up, look in the car.

00:26:48.000 They see it's open.

00:26:49.000 There's nothing in there.

00:26:49.000 They keep going.

00:26:50.000 Yep. And I think Benny Johnson, he got robbed, didn't he?

00:26:54.000 Yeah, he was filming in Oakland or something.

00:26:57.000 And then they came and smashed the window and tried, I don't know if they actually stole stuff or tried stealing it.

00:27:02.000 The Tides Foundation is also funding the Indivisible Project, which has been staging and organizing protests against Tesla's.

00:27:10.000 Oh, really?

00:27:11.000 Yeah. And Tides is funded by USAID.

00:27:13.000 So Elon is in a position to end the funding to Tides.

00:27:17.000 Well, and USAID just closed.

00:27:19.000 Like, they're done.

00:27:21.000 Yeah. They shut that down at the end of last week, I think.

00:27:25.000 One of the craziest things about living in one of these bigger cities is you can realize just how much people can get accustomed to when people talk about like, oh, my car only got broken into twice last year.

00:27:34.000 And you're like, imagine this, dude, there's a place you can live where that just doesn't happen at all.

00:27:37.000 Where nobody breaks into your car.

00:27:39.000 Nobody breaks into your car.

00:27:40.000 That would be nice.

00:27:41.000 I think in general, Americans mostly want a high trust society.

00:27:45.000 And it's really been damaging having that trust just disappear slowly and then, you know, all at once.

00:27:51.000 It's pretty much gone now.

00:27:53.000 That's been gone for a long time.

00:27:54.000 It's been gone for a long time, but like...

00:27:56.000 Even before the political animosity in the last 10 years, I mean, 20, 30 years of the media giving you the boogeyman of criminals and serial killers and stuff like that, high trust society has gone a long time.

00:28:08.000 But you pretty much, I mean, now you're at a point where you figure your neighbors might attack you.

00:28:13.000 Yeah. Your neighbors might come shoot your dog. 0.96

00:28:15.000 Your neighbors might like yell at your kids.

00:28:17.000 I think they should just ban, there should be no political signs in your driveway.

00:28:21.000 For the good of society, no political signs.

00:28:22.000 Or maybe just no neighbors.

00:28:28.000 That would work also.

00:28:29.000 That would work too.

00:28:29.000 I mean, you got to go live on a farm somewhere.

00:28:31.000 Buy land of your own.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, but then you have to grow things.

00:28:35.000 Then you're expected to do something with that land.

00:28:38.000 What a tragedy to hear Americans talking this way about their country.

00:28:42.000 Is this really something you believe is the case across the country?

00:28:47.000 The death of the high-trust society?

00:28:49.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:28:50.000 At the very least in big cities.

00:28:52.000 Winston, I went to a CVS and I couldn't buy ice cream.

00:28:55.000 So we were in, I think we were, where were we?

00:28:59.000 That could be New York, Chicago, Philadelphia.

00:29:02.000 Yeah, I could be wrong.

00:29:04.000 But I needed to get nail clippers because we were traveling.

00:29:08.000 I walked inside, walked up to where the nail clippers would be.

00:29:12.000 Most of the products were gone and the ones that were there were locked.

00:29:17.000 So I was like, I'm not going to do that.

00:29:22.000 I'm not going to go find someone because I need the nail clippers.

00:29:24.000 Whatever. I'll clip my nails when I get home.

00:29:25.000 I'm only here for the weekend.

00:29:26.000 So I said screw it.

00:29:28.000 You know, Allison was over by the snacks and I walked over to the snacks and she's looking at Cheez-Its or whatever and crackers and I was like, let's just get a thing of ice cream, screw it. 0.96

00:29:36.000 I walk up to the fridge and door's locked.

00:29:39.000 Locked. Could not even take ice cream, it was locked.

00:29:42.000 And I just said, let's just go.

00:29:44.000 I don't want to walk up, say, can I get ice cream, walk back, get the ice cream, walk back, I don't care that much.

00:29:48.000 And you know what?

00:29:49.000 I shouldn't be eating ice cream anyway.

00:29:51.000 But also, it's hard to find somebody in the store.

00:29:54.000 So we simultaneously have a decline in trust in our society.

00:29:58.000 And all of these automated things coming into place that only work in a high-trust society, like not that many people at CVS because it's all self-checkout, or the grocery store, you know, or like different AI type of components, like the AI drivers, the Waymo, and all of this stuff.

00:30:14.000 That works in a high-trust society, and in a low-trust society, it's just kind of terrifying to get into.

00:30:20.000 Okay, so what would you say the reasons that it's become a low-trust?

00:30:23.000 Because I've seen this coming to your wonderful country over the last two decades, and I've seen the change.

00:30:27.000 Particularly in democrat cities.

00:30:29.000 I think of New York, I think of San Francisco where I've had similar experiences to you guys.

00:30:33.000 But in Europe and particularly in Britain...

00:30:36.000 What's happened is mass migration is the effect, and it's through mass migration that we're seeing an increase in violence, particularly in cities.

00:30:43.000 We're seeing social cohesion break down and we're seeing riots, counter riots.

00:30:47.000 I mean, I could talk about the British-Pakistani grooming gangs which have inspired that, and it's really mass migration.

00:30:54.000 Is that the same story here in America?

00:30:56.000 Is it mass migration?

00:30:57.000 You've had your own problems.

00:30:59.000 I think it's more high crime, no prosecutions, and high limits on what it takes to get a felony.

00:31:04.000 So if it costs If somebody has to steal $900 worth of stuff to get a felony, people just put a bunch of stuff in a garbage bag and walk out.

00:31:13.000 And we've seen endless videos of this at all of these stores.

00:31:16.000 If there's no consequence for their actions, the store has to do what they have to do to try and protect their merchandise.

00:31:23.000 And what's hilarious is then they have found a way to then make this an argument about capitalism, where they say it's actually capitalism's fault that stores are locking up all their merchandise and say that it's disproportionately We're good to

00:31:58.000 go. There's no easy avenue for police to intervene in suspected prostitution, because loitering is perfectly legal.

00:32:04.000 Or broken windows, or turnstile jumping.

00:32:06.000 The issue is community.

00:32:08.000 And community doesn't exist anymore.

00:32:10.000 It used to be that you had a small town, everybody knew each other.

00:32:13.000 You're not going to commit a crime against someone you know, it's going to cause you problems with your friends and your family.

00:32:17.000 But now nobody knows each other.

00:32:19.000 So the attitude of police, the attitude of criminals, of everybody is, ain't nothing bad coming my way.

00:32:24.000 You know, during the lockdowns, when Attila's gym was shut down, The local cops refused initially.

00:32:29.000 They said, we're not going to shut it down.

00:32:30.000 They lived there.

00:32:32.000 They're going to be social pariahs in their own town.

00:32:34.000 So the state got cops from another town to come in because those cops are like, yo, we could literally do anything we want to you.

00:32:40.000 It's not going to affect me any way because when I go to wash my laundry or buy groceries, I don't live here.

00:32:46.000 And so that's the problem we're facing with crime in all these places.

00:32:51.000 Everyone's attitude is basically like, it's for me and my family.

00:32:53.000 I don't owe you.

00:32:54.000 There you go.

00:32:55.000 And most cops don't work in the city that they live anymore.

00:32:59.000 Or the city is so big that they live in one part and serve another.

00:33:03.000 Let's jump to this tweet we got here.

00:33:05.000 This video is crazy, ladies and gentlemen.

00:33:07.000 A man pulls up to block a woman driving a Tesla and starts punching her in the face.

00:33:12.000 You can't really see anything.

00:33:14.000 Heads up, because we don't like showing that crazy violent stuff.

00:33:16.000 But listen to this report.

00:33:18.000 This is from AZFamily.com.

00:33:21.000 Flagstaff. Watch this.

00:33:22.000 This is video of a Tesla attack in Flagstaff last week.

00:33:26.000 It shows a green car pulling up next to a Tesla on busy Route 66, then swerving in front to box the vehicle in.

00:33:34.000 The driver then walks over to the 61-year-old woman in the Tesla and reportedly starts hitting her while she's behind the wheel.

00:33:42.000 I started to say, you cut me off.

00:33:46.000 What's your problem?

00:33:47.000 But I don't know how much of that got out.

00:33:49.000 And he started to punch me with a closed fist.

00:33:52.000 At one point, the victim, who wants to hide her identity, says she bit the man's hand.

00:33:58.000 Moments later, the passenger of the green car appears to walk over and pull the attacker away.

00:34:03.000 They finally get back in their car and drive off.

00:34:06.000 The incident is among the latest attacks on Arizona Tesla drivers being targeted because of the car they drive.

00:34:13.000 This is crazy.

00:34:14.000 I just want to point out.

00:34:16.000 Absolutely insane.

00:34:17.000 What I wanted to point right away is that they box her in.

00:34:19.000 You can see that not only do they try to stop her.

00:34:22.000 But when she tries to go right, they pull forward to make sure she's between the curb.

00:34:28.000 I'm jumping that curb.

00:34:29.000 I'm sorry.

00:34:30.000 I don't know.

00:34:31.000 It's a pretty tall curb right there, or I'm reversing, but I'm assuming she's got someone behind them.

00:34:36.000 I'm not entirely sure.

00:34:37.000 Maybe we can see in the video.

00:34:39.000 So in the rear, she's clear.

00:34:41.000 She could have hit reverse and just got out of there.

00:34:44.000 You know what's really crazy about this?

00:34:46.000 Check this out.

00:34:47.000 When they go on dimension, Another person is attacked keep moments later the passenger of the green car.

00:34:52.000 Oh, actually, I don't think I actually have that in the video in the full report They they mention these two women are not taking gun Self-defense classes. 1.00

00:35:02.000 Yeah, the next time some guy tries pulling something like that off.

00:35:05.000 They're gonna get they're gonna get shot and Depending on where they live They're gonna be they're gonna run their own risk because it's so hard to know whether you're actually gonna get in trouble for using your weapon I guess they'll have to figure out what the law is, too.

00:35:17.000 I think that's going to be after the fact.

00:35:19.000 I mean, look, a 61-year-old woman getting punched in the face? 0.98

00:35:22.000 If she had a gun, she'd shoot him. 0.99

00:35:24.000 Well, these leftist guys are the same ones that have been saying, punch a turf for years and punch Nazis. 0.99

00:35:28.000 And now Nazis are people who drive Teslas that they bought in order to help the environment and be environmentally friendly.

00:35:35.000 Not knowing when they bought it.

00:35:36.000 Nazis, you know, Nazis love green energy.

00:35:39.000 If the roles were reversed, we would never hear the end of this.

00:35:43.000 It would be on MSNBC, CNN, relentlessly.

00:35:46.000 If there was any sort of far right attack on someone because of their...

00:35:50.000 Some lady in her car. 1.00

00:35:52.000 It's such an absurdity that these people think it's appropriate to punch someone who's got nothing.

00:35:58.000 The driver of the Tesla might actually be a Democrat.

00:36:02.000 Well, I mean, the people who are buying electric cars probably were leaning left in the first place.

00:36:09.000 And it's not like all of the people driving Teslas bought them in the last month.

00:36:15.000 I'm curious for you, Winston, based on what we're seeing here.

00:36:18.000 Have you ever seen anything as bad as this directed, targeted attacks sustained?

00:36:26.000 In America or in Britain?

00:36:27.000 In America.

00:36:29.000 Directed at individuals?

00:36:31.000 I mean, the worst, it seemed to me, was in 2020.

00:36:34.000 That was a real period.

00:36:36.000 I mean, we talked about this a little bit earlier.

00:36:38.000 2020 was mass rioting, which is over months.

00:36:44.000 And then you had it culminate with the autonomous zones.

00:36:48.000 But those were leftists against government.

00:36:52.000 I'm wondering if, and you know, I don't know Libby and Brett if you've seen anything, what we're seeing now is random attacks on people for political purposes if they can be identified.

00:37:03.000 Meaning the Tesla car itself is enough identification for these attacks to escalate on these individuals.

00:37:08.000 It's a good point.

00:37:08.000 I remember in Portland someone wearing a MAGA hat was killed.

00:37:12.000 This is something that Andy Ngo reported.

00:37:13.000 Was it Aaron Daniels?

00:37:14.000 Yes, that's right.

00:37:15.000 I think, was it Daniel Sin?

00:37:16.000 I could be wrong.

00:37:18.000 Um, was he wearing a mega hat?

00:37:19.000 He was, he was.

00:37:21.000 Trump identified.

00:37:22.000 Trump identified.

00:37:23.000 Yeah. So this is a clear difference, right?

00:37:25.000 So this is, it's no longer, we don't need to identify what their politics are.

00:37:29.000 And there have been attacks at Republican polling stations and stuff like that in the past.

00:37:35.000 I think the difference between this and 2020 is that 2020 was less focused and it was just an outlet of anger.

00:37:42.000 It didn't matter who it was.

00:37:43.000 They were just going after any business that they felt like tearing down at the time, which is why businesses that wanted to survive had to put signs up in their windows.

00:37:50.000 to please, please, please leave me alone.

00:37:52.000 But at that same time, they were going up to random people and asking them to raise their fist in the air to force compliance on people because it was a form of power.

00:38:02.000 Yeah, there was definitely, in terms of like the attacks on Tess Tesla cars, not just individuals, but Tesla cars.

00:38:08.000 We did see, again in 2020, we saw the attacks on statues, right?

00:38:12.000 People were tearing down George Washington statues. 1.00

00:38:15.000 People were so stupid that they were tearing down statues of abolitionists saying, you know, that they were racist. 1.00

00:38:21.000 And it's like, really? 1.00

00:38:21.000 Because they were abolitionists. 1.00

00:38:24.000 It was Danielson.

00:38:25.000 They would still be considered racist by today's standards.

00:38:28.000 The reason why I'm asking this is I'm curious, you know, Wynton, your perspective on where this country goes You know, obviously with the, you know, Trump being criminally charged, but now he wins.

00:38:39.000 Now the Democrats are saying what he's doing is unconstitutional.

00:38:42.000 Now we have Elon, who's working with Trump, and people are just either, there's terror attacks against dealerships, they're physically attacking people.

00:38:49.000 Do you see a scenario where things are to chill out, maybe, or what do you think?

00:38:55.000 I think that the way it's heading is, and I note what I said earlier about no Democrats really calling this out, is that we might end up that something really awful happens.

00:39:06.000 God forbid, I don't want it, but it would take something really awful, it seems, for Democrats to finally Speak out against what's going out and and even then to be honest, I'm not sure it would there's not gonna change the rhetoric And there's plenty of what happened in 2020 that they didn't speak out even when terrible evils were happening No,

00:39:26.000 they put websites to bail people out in their bios is what they did But Tim is your question because you you think that this is it we're in a particularly bad place Is this why you're pushing me here?

00:39:39.000 Well, I'm curious and I think this is a unique This is really different this time.

00:39:43.000 The reason I wanted to ask before I gave my thoughts is I don't want to influence what your thoughts on this particular moment may be.

00:39:49.000 Maybe, you know, you'd say, look, I've seen stuff like this and, you know, people are going to forget about Tesla or something like that.

00:39:55.000 But I actually argued this is substantially worse in terms of the political escalation than we saw in 2020.

00:40:03.000 And that's because we had this conversation a week or two ago.

00:40:06.000 Is it worse now than it was in 2020?

00:40:08.000 And I think it is worse.

00:40:09.000 Certainly not the amount of violence occurring.

00:40:12.000 It's the targeting attacks, the type of violence.

00:40:16.000 So we have the mass swattings.

00:40:18.000 You had, what, 20 plus or more swattings targeting prominent right-leaning individuals.

00:40:22.000 Now you have...

00:40:24.000 So it's scaling up in every tier of the right. 0.99

00:40:27.000 At the lowest level, some woman, for simply having a Tesla, might not even be political, gets punched in the face repeatedly by a lunatic. 1.00

00:40:34.000 Then you have the mid-tier, the influencers. 0.70

00:40:37.000 Getting swatted.

00:40:38.000 You had Owen Schroyer brought out of his house with his hands up and they told him to take his shirt off because the police are pointing guns at him and cops don't know what's going on.

00:40:46.000 Then at the highest level, of course, you have the administrative attacks, attempts to arrest and jail Trump and his people.

00:40:51.000 But now that he won, that is being stopped by Trump at the highest level.

00:40:55.000 Of course, we have a counter with Crispy Gnome, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino.

00:41:00.000 But in 2020 with the riots, it was random rage.

00:41:04.000 People were mad about Trump, they're mad about lockdowns, they're mad about George Floyd, and they were going out and attacking random things.

00:41:09.000 And everything.

00:41:10.000 Anything and everything.

00:41:12.000 They burned down buildings, they attacked random people.

00:41:15.000 That is very, very bad in terms of the sheer violence, but a riot may not go anywhere, right?

00:41:21.000 The riots happened, I think, largely because of COVID lockdowns built up a lot of rage.

00:41:25.000 The George Floyd story was the spark that gave people the excuse to go out and be angry.

00:41:30.000 And they weren't overtly targeting people, though.

00:41:32.000 There was one guy in Portland who got shot twice in the chest, and it was violent with the Chazz Chop, where they actually shot and murdered people, unloaded their rifles on some teenagers in an SUV. 0.99

00:41:42.000 Crazy. What we're seeing now, though, in terms of political escalation is random street-level terror attacks, mid-level terror attacks in the digital space, bleeding into the physical space with swattings, mid-level terror attacks with firebombs and mass shootings on dealerships.

00:42:00.000 This seems to me like a worrying escalation where, what happens when a leftist gets run over?

00:42:07.000 Some guy already did that. 0.95

00:42:08.000 He jumped the curb and drove through some protest against Tesla, and they got out of the way, he got charged.

00:42:14.000 What happens when one of these individuals shoots one of the people that are attacking their vehicles?

00:42:19.000 Then the left says, they're attacking us now, the fascists are attacking us.

00:42:23.000 What they did with Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:42:24.000 And that's what they did in Texas.

00:42:25.000 Remember that situation in Texas?

00:42:27.000 Do you think?

00:42:28.000 Okay, so I have a question.

00:42:29.000 Is part of this because I think a lot of this has to do with we live in a sick society, and there's a lot of unbelievably emotionally dysregulated people who don't know how to control themselves and who suffer because they have been fed these lines about political opposition being evil.

00:42:44.000 But I wonder if some of it has to do with the fact that there's just this directionless feel to the Democrat Party now, where they don't have anybody to coalesce around, they don't have any actual hope for their message.

00:42:56.000 So they're It's just violence.

00:42:59.000 Because they don't have anybody that's giving them a message that they feel they can confidently take into the next election cycle to try and change the things that they, at least in their minds, feel are wrong.

00:43:10.000 Yeah. I mean, it's not just violence.

00:43:11.000 It's also haplessness, right?

00:43:12.000 Like you see them saying, Trump's going to take away our Medicare.

00:43:15.000 That's not anywhere.

00:43:17.000 Trump's going to destroy Social Security.

00:43:18.000 That's not anywhere.

00:43:20.000 They make stuff up because they don't have a policy platform and they don't have any leaders.

00:43:24.000 The closest thing they have to a leader right now is like Jasmine Crockett. 1.00

00:43:28.000 You know what I mean?

00:43:28.000 And it's just because she's a big mouth and she's out there being loud.

00:43:31.000 Yeah. Hakeem Jeffries.

00:43:32.000 Hakeem Jeffries.

00:43:33.000 And they're all advocating for violence.

00:43:34.000 They're all, yeah.

00:43:35.000 Hakeem Jeffries.

00:43:36.000 We're going to take it to the streets.

00:43:38.000 Maxine Waters is always about that.

00:43:40.000 She's always the worst.

00:43:41.000 We had one of the most shocking things I've seen was when on The Daily Show, Jordan Klepper showed terror attacks.

00:43:48.000 One of the attacks on Tesla in Vegas was a man with a rifle shooting into the building, trying to take out security cameras, then shooting wildly into a bunch of cars, graffiting up the building, and then setting fire to a bunch of the vehicles.

00:44:02.000 And when he showed this, the audience cheered for it.

00:44:05.000 He even was shocked and said, wow, I guess you guys like petty acts of domestic terrorism.

00:44:09.000 Something very similar on Stephen Colbert at the same time, by the way, where he made a joke like, don't attack Teslas!

00:44:16.000 And then did a pause.

00:44:18.000 Sorry, it's Kimmel, forgive me, it was Kimmel.

00:44:21.000 But Colbert did also do something similar where he said he deserves, he said someone stole the tires off a vehicle, but he says, I don't attack the, I don't condemn the attacks, but I appreciate your tireless efforts and wins a pun award.

00:44:38.000 He said that I think it's wrong to attack Teslas and this comes from the bottom of my CBS legal department.

00:44:46.000 Implying he doesn't actually, and they're cheering for these things.

00:44:50.000 So, I wonder.

00:44:52.000 We are at a time in this country where in public people are cheering for terror attacks against anyone perceived to be right-wing.

00:45:01.000 Even if you're just driving a Tesla, which you probably bought well before Trump or Elon had anything to do with government.

00:45:06.000 Well, you know, we have DHS and ICE doing this thing where they're scouring people's social media to determine if they are immigrants who advocate for violence or who are opposed to American values or whatever the criteria is.

00:45:22.000 I wonder if they'll start doing that for the Tesla people and just start like arresting anti-Tesla people based on their social media posts.

00:45:30.000 And that will end up sparking concern from them in the same way, because they're going to say that you're being a fascist by arresting them.

00:45:36.000 Well, it is concerning to arrest someone based on a social media post alone, as we've seen in the UK.

00:45:41.000 Yes, we've seen a lot of that.

00:45:42.000 But they have to start arresting and having real justice put on these people doing these attacks, because that is what will create In a lot of cases the charges were eventually dropped.

00:46:11.000 I don't think it ends up stopping anybody.

00:46:13.000 I think so many of these people are so broken and so upset and they feel so hopeless because of all of the rhetoric that they're spewed and fed every single day that they're acting so irrationally that even a rational deterrent won't work on an irrational person.

00:46:28.000 Yeah, because they're going to cheer.

00:46:29.000 Yeah. So if Donald Trump's DHS, a bunch of Nazi fascist brown shirts, go and arrest someone, they're going to say it's a badge of honor. 0.96

00:46:37.000 Well, and look at what happened to Luigi Mangione, right? 0.94

00:46:40.000 He is suspected of murdering this guy in cold blood.

00:46:43.000 It's on camera in New York.

00:46:45.000 And California named a health care bill after him.

00:46:48.000 Yeah, it's like the Luigi Mangione Health Care Act.

00:46:52.000 And it's penalties on if you delay, deny, or depose or whatever.

00:46:57.000 Yeah, it's penalties on healthcare companies that don't do what Luigi Mangione wants them to do.

00:47:03.000 Let me jump to this next tweet here we have from Christine Noem, Secretary of DHS, Department of Homeland Security.

00:47:11.000 I cannot show you the video, my friends.

00:47:15.000 It is a man calling for people to murder ICE agents.

00:47:19.000 And Christine Noem responds, if you threaten or attempt to harm a law enforcement officer, we will find you and prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law.

00:47:26.000 I don't...

00:47:28.000 Should this guy be arrested?

00:47:30.000 Because he literally says in the video, to do it.

00:47:34.000 He says, do this, do it.

00:47:37.000 If they approach you, do it. 0.52

00:47:38.000 He's inciting violence, for sure.

00:47:39.000 He's definitely inciting violence.

00:47:41.000 Telling people to attack, to kill law enforcement?

00:47:45.000 Yeah, that's pretty serious.

00:47:46.000 Yeah. And it's brazen in public.

00:47:48.000 And he said, because they're fascists, because they are masked individuals.

00:47:53.000 And he says, you have a right to do it.

00:47:55.000 And you do not.

00:47:57.000 But this is a degree of escalation.

00:48:00.000 And I will say this, it's so intense.

00:48:01.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we can't play the video for you here on YouTube.

00:48:04.000 No, it's too severe.

00:48:06.000 I believe it is a federal criminal offense what he said.

00:48:11.000 And to be a federal it would have offense it would have to be proved that it would directly lead to Actual attacks happening, which is that the brand what's the test that it's so it's imminent harm imminent harm So you'd have to prove him in harmony This is very similar to a lot of the stuff we had going on in the UK a lot of people arrested for long periods of time I mean years some of them now some of them were just racist memes and reposting racist memes and a bit of racism here and there don't disgusting things that were said but you know Clearly not

00:48:42.000 incitement of violence.

00:48:43.000 But then there's some people who were arrested for planning online, on using Facebook to plan where to do certain attacks on asylum hotels, and those people were arrested.

00:48:54.000 So you're saying that this seems to me To you, to be a felony, but wouldn't you have to prove that it would directly lead to an attack?

00:49:05.000 No, it turns out you don't have to do that, which is crazy, but based on precedent.

00:49:09.000 Like, for example, Douglas Mackey was arrested and convicted for, what was it, like an election interference or something?

00:49:17.000 That was fraud, that's different from threats of violence.

00:49:19.000 Right, but there was no evidence that the DOJ could provide that showed that the meme he posted impacted anybody to do the thing.

00:49:27.000 In regards to violence, though, the imminent harm is the standard.

00:49:33.000 And so that's why usually, if you said something like, I think people should do this thing, isn't illegal.

00:49:40.000 But if you say, at this time, go do this thing.

00:49:44.000 Right, like, isn't this incitement?

00:49:45.000 This, I believe, qualifies, as he says several times, right when the video starts, he says, he says, do it explicitly.

00:49:54.000 And I don't, again, I can't play it because it's, maybe in the uncensored portion, but I don't want to play with this video.

00:50:02.000 But he's referring to a specific place and a specific time.

00:50:04.000 No. He's not.

00:50:05.000 He's just saying.

00:50:06.000 Actually, actually, this is where it gets interesting in law.

00:50:10.000 If it's an imminent threat where you said, I want you to go to this place, Jim's Bar, take the, you know, go pick up one of these things and then use it to do this thing to that guy.

00:50:20.000 You've got a person, you've got a place, you're directing them to do it.

00:50:23.000 In this regard, he is saying, if ICE agents show up at your house or stop you anywhere, do this thing with this thing. 0.99

00:50:33.000 He's saying to shoot them. 1.00

00:50:34.000 He's explicitly saying, take a gun, if you see them, end their lives. 1.00

00:50:38.000 That's what he's saying. 0.55

00:50:40.000 I believe this qualifies as violent in the law.

00:50:43.000 And I'd be interested to see...

00:50:45.000 Democrats will absolutely defend him.

00:50:48.000 If he got arrested for this, they'd say it's free speech.

00:50:51.000 They're defending Luigi Mangione.

00:50:53.000 Indeed. He shot a man in cold blood, likely.

00:50:55.000 Accused of.

00:50:56.000 I actually don't think he did it.

00:50:58.000 You don't think he did it?

00:50:59.000 Nope. Okay.

00:51:00.000 Because the initial videos that were released, I'll say it every time, when that story first came out, we all looked at the surveillance footage and said, that looks like a middle-aged guy.

00:51:08.000 You can tell by his hands, the top of the face that you can see, it looks like he's got older skin.

00:51:16.000 Older folks, their skin doesn't move as well in the cold.

00:51:21.000 You'll notice they do like the moisture test after you pinch the skin and pull it.

00:51:24.000 You can see pressure points on his hands.

00:51:26.000 I assumed when we first saw that it was going to be a guy who was like in his late 40s or 50s.

00:51:31.000 Then they put up a picture of this other guy, said he was a person of interest, and he's wearing a different coat with different eyebrows and a different backpack.

00:51:39.000 And everybody said, that's the guy.

00:51:40.000 That's the guy.

00:51:41.000 He's the suspect.

00:51:42.000 And I said, guys, no.

00:51:43.000 They're saying he's a person of interest.

00:51:45.000 That could mean that he was maybe in the same building talking to the guy and they want to talk to him.

00:51:49.000 Then all of a sudden, they find this Luigi Mangione guy in a McDonald's.

00:51:53.000 Someone recognized him?

00:51:55.000 Wow. I'll add to that bit.

00:51:56.000 With an orgy of evidence.

00:51:57.000 I think I'm certainly with you in questioning whether he's really the guy.

00:52:01.000 Because if you look at how the kill was done, it's a really professional job.

00:52:06.000 And then if you look at how he was caught, how can the same person who pulled off that unbelievable Can he have

00:52:38.000 his manifesto in his bag?

00:52:40.000 And the weapon.

00:52:41.000 I always carry my manifestos to McDonald's.

00:52:43.000 This is why people have said it was, in the Minority Report reference, an orgy of evidence.

00:52:48.000 In the movie, Tom Cruise's character walks in the room and there's photos everywhere of his son who was kidnapped.

00:52:55.000 When the inspector comes in, he goes, nah, I don't believe it.

00:52:58.000 He's like, all of this is a stage.

00:53:00.000 It's meant to look like The crime scene.

00:53:01.000 Come on.

00:53:02.000 And have you seen the video of him when he's, I think he's cuffed in a jumpsuit and he's shouting at the press.

00:53:08.000 Right. It was really interesting to watch that again because what he says is not what, it's not what someone would say.

00:53:15.000 I've unfortunately forgotten. 1.00

00:53:17.000 He said something like the American people being too stupid to believe it or something. 1.00

00:53:20.000 Exactly. It's just the way he said it didn't seem to be like the sort of thing an actual hitman would say then. 1.00

00:53:26.000 So maybe, I don't know, but in that regard, It could be a hitman got away with killing a CEO and the government is like, we cannot have a story of a rogue hitman running around.

00:53:38.000 They have to pin it on somebody.

00:53:40.000 Why have they never seen mafia movies?

00:53:41.000 I mean, there's plenty of stories.

00:53:42.000 The American public would panic and it could disrupt the economy in many ways if people are scared to go outside because there's a hitman running around or a murderer.

00:53:52.000 The American public already, no one would be surprised to learn there's hitmen in the public.

00:53:56.000 Everyone knows there's hitmen.

00:53:58.000 Well, uh, the belief among many Americans is that there probably are, but it's extremely rare and much harder than people think.

00:54:04.000 You know, it's usually just a sting operation, but...

00:54:07.000 You know, back to the main point, my concern here is, if they don't arrest this guy, this is what I refer to as the...

00:54:15.000 I didn't make this up, someone chatted this to us, the Ice Bucket Challenge of terrorism.

00:54:20.000 But I mean, this guy made this video because he's like, I'm going to get a million views.

00:54:23.000 And he is.

00:54:24.000 The video from from Kristi Noem, the posting of 1.3 million, the post from Libs of 10%.

00:54:30.000 TikTok probably has way more.

00:54:32.000 It's got 2.4.

00:54:34.000 That's right.

00:54:34.000 I'm not going to play that video.

00:54:35.000 We're not going to listen to this guy.

00:54:37.000 He says it twice.

00:54:37.000 More than that, he keeps saying it over and over again.

00:54:40.000 That's right.

00:54:40.000 He says, that's right.

00:54:41.000 Do it.

00:54:42.000 Do it.

00:54:42.000 He's dressed.

00:54:43.000 It didn't seem That's scarier.

00:54:54.000 Probably the most egregious part of all of this.

00:54:57.000 When you have...

00:54:58.000 Let me go back in time.

00:55:00.000 I remembered after 9-11.

00:55:02.000 There were reports in the news that they feared terror attacks in small suburban towns.

00:55:07.000 They said that the terror alert has gone up and the town that they're concerned about is this, you know, insert small Ohio town.

00:55:13.000 And I'm thinking like, why would they target the middle of nowhere?

00:55:18.000 On the news they were saying, the terrorists want to target rural areas.

00:55:23.000 So that people in this country feel they cannot be safe anywhere.

00:55:26.000 Most people think if you stay out of the cities, you'll be all right.

00:55:29.000 Wow. So, with stuff like this, and what he's saying, when it's a regular guy who's a real estate agent calling for the murder of federal agents, it's particularly worrying because it's basically saying to us, there is a normal liberal worldview circulating amongst regular workers to engage in lethal force against their enemies.

00:55:51.000 Yeah, there's another aspect of this which is curious to me is that the ICE agents are the villains here.

00:55:58.000 And this can only be in the eyes of the progressive globalists who don't like borders.

00:56:04.000 But the ICE villains are trying to get rid of violent criminal, violent murderous criminals to protect the borders.

00:56:11.000 If you want a safe country, if you want a great America, you've got to have borders.

00:56:15.000 And so it's curious to watch how villainized ICE agents are at this time.

00:56:22.000 Indeed. You know, we had a liberal lawyer on who called them brownshirts.

00:56:26.000 He said they're Gestapo, they're federal, you know.

00:56:29.000 He believed that?

00:56:30.000 Yeah. Yep.

00:56:32.000 So what, does that guy believe in borders at all?

00:56:34.000 Nope. Does he think that people should come...

00:56:36.000 I mean...

00:56:37.000 Well, this is...

00:56:37.000 They haven't thought that worldview through to its full extent.

00:56:43.000 It's an interesting moral conundrum.

00:56:45.000 Joe Biden says, if someone enters the country...

00:56:48.000 Well, actually, let's go back 20...

00:56:49.000 Go back earlier, 2020.

00:56:51.000 During the presidential debates through 2019 and 2020, all of the Democrat candidates were asked, would you change crossing the border from a criminal charge to a civil charge?

00:57:02.000 And they all raised their hand.

00:57:04.000 They all liked that idea, yeah.

00:57:06.000 Literally, Joe Biden says, surge the border.

00:57:08.000 They come to the border, they enter the country outside of an official port of entry, illegally, and then as soon as they see an agent, they say, asylum!

00:57:17.000 And then he goes, You got us!

00:57:18.000 Guess you can stay here forever now.

00:57:20.000 They put all these people into the system, gave them court dates, and then quietly dismissed all their court dates so they were de facto in the United States as second-class citizens.

00:57:29.000 This is illegal.

00:57:31.000 This is what Chuck Schumer wants, though, so that we can have, you know, depressed wages.

00:57:35.000 Right. So when Donald Trump then says, we are going to arrest these people and kick them out, the left says, Trump is arresting legal migrants.

00:57:47.000 This is the conundrum over the language.

00:57:49.000 So now, you've got the issue of, but we need due process for these people who entered the country illegally through Biden's exploitation, and they're using it to empower their states.

00:57:59.000 There is no reality where the actions taken by Donald Trump will ever be deemed legal, even if they're explicitly legal and under his constitutional authority, as many of these things are.

00:58:10.000 Trump said, if you are transgender and exhibiting symptoms, you cannot serve in the military.

00:58:16.000 However, if you are suffering gender dysphoria or transgender, and you exhibit no symptoms, you're fine. 0.71

00:58:21.000 A judge ruled, no, you can't do this.

00:58:25.000 Everyone is created equal and all means all.

00:58:31.000 That literally means she just issued an injunction stating, as someone on Twitter pointed out, paraplegic schizophrenics can now enlist in the military.

00:58:38.000 Yeah, like gender dysphoria is in the DSM, yet a lot of people with bad eyesight can't get into the military.

00:58:43.000 Indeed, but now you can.

00:58:44.000 Because of this injunction, it is absurd that the president, who is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, is barred from choosing who serves him.

00:58:52.000 That's crazy!

00:58:53.000 So this is the point of where we're at in terms of what is legal and what's not legal.

00:58:58.000 With the border thing, and forgive me if I sound like a libtard for one moment, but is there an argument to be made that these coming across and claiming asylum Because Biden had allowed it, they were following by the laws at the time. 0.96

00:59:13.000 And so they...

00:59:15.000 No. No.

00:59:17.000 Explain to me.

00:59:18.000 So in the United States, the president can issue executive orders.

00:59:23.000 They're not laws, but he can direct executive agencies to behave in certain ways, which de facto can make or break laws.

00:59:29.000 So if the United States Congress passes a bill saying, we are going to ban marijuana in every regard, I mean they basically did, but like, nothing, nothing, we're gonna arrest literally everybody.

00:59:42.000 Donald Trump could say, ignore it, don't enforce it.

00:59:45.000 He could instruct the AG not to prosecute.

00:59:48.000 And so the law exists and should be enforced, but would that mean that people are I see, so that's what happened.

00:59:56.000 Basically, because I got one for you, and I'm going to change your mind in two seconds.

01:00:01.000 Joe Biden instructed CBP to transport children into sex slavery.

01:00:06.000 Does that make it legal?

01:00:09.000 He did what?

01:00:09.000 No, this for real happened, yeah.

01:00:12.000 Yeah, so what happened is...

01:00:14.000 Now let me ask you if you think a civil war is coming.

01:00:16.000 What happened is Joe Biden said all accompanied minors can get across the border, no questions asked.

01:00:22.000 And then that went to a judge and the judge said, well, that has to apply to the families of minors as well.

01:00:28.000 If you're doing it for unaccompanied minors, then their whole family needs to come in if that's what's going on. 1.00

01:00:32.000 So you have literal human traffickers trafficking children across the border.

01:00:35.000 CBP knows that they're traffickers.

01:00:37.000 Yes. The agents know for a fact.

01:00:40.000 Children are coming across the border with traffickers, sex slavers, or by themselves.

01:00:44.000 They have numbers written on their arms or hand.

01:00:46.000 Or they have those plastic bracelets.

01:00:48.000 Yep. That they know is for sex slavery of children. 1.00

01:00:51.000 I'm talking 12 year olds. 0.98

01:00:52.000 And CBP, with smiles on their faces, transported those kids into sex slavery. 0.99

01:00:58.000 And what you have to do if you're...

01:01:01.000 If the kid is coming across the border and they have somewhere to go, they tell the DHS what the address is.

01:01:07.000 And the DHS just hands them off to HHS and HHS sends them off to wherever that is.

01:01:12.000 And the issue is that those addresses in a lot of cases aren't anywhere.

01:01:17.000 They're like empty warehouses.

01:01:19.000 Or hundreds of people have the exact same address.

01:01:21.000 These are not safe contacts.

01:01:25.000 These are just like something to fill out the form to get the people in.

01:01:30.000 Or words for it.

01:01:32.000 There's your story from the New York Post from one year ago.

01:01:35.000 Dr. Phil tells The View host that children crossing the border are being sent into prostitution and sweatshops.

01:01:40.000 And this isn't the only story.

01:01:42.000 He spoke with the head of the CBP union on camera, who stated, quote, I talked to the head of all the border guards down there, the head of the union.

01:01:49.000 I asked him straight up, kids are coming over the border with numbers written on them, phone numbers and addresses.

01:01:54.000 Do we check those out?

01:01:55.000 He said, well, we call them, quote, is it possible that we're sending them into known prostitution rings or sweatshops?

01:02:02.000 He said, it's not possible.

01:02:03.000 It is absolute.

01:02:04.000 We are using American tax dollars to ship children into known prostitution and sweatshops. 0.85

01:02:10.000 And when asked over and over again, like when I bring this up, the issue is clear.

01:02:16.000 CBP agents were instructed at the highest level Savannah Hernandez did a lot of reporting on this at the border and uncovered the exact same thing.

01:02:35.000 Wow. And it was very clear.

01:02:36.000 And she had, like, undercover CBP agents talking to her.

01:02:40.000 She had to disguise their voices because they were terrified.

01:02:43.000 There's, like, a rape tree, basically.

01:02:46.000 Where there's paraphernalia left from children on this tree.

01:02:51.000 So the issue we have now is, yes, Joe Biden told them, you can come across the border and we will ignore the law and do whatever you want.

01:03:02.000 And while the Democrats will say the barber was just an asylum seeker.

01:03:07.000 Sure, sure.

01:03:09.000 My understanding, I could be wrong, is this guy was illegally entered the country coming from Venezuela.

01:03:14.000 It's typically implied, or I believe it's not absolute law, but you're supposed to apply for asylum in the first country of safe harbor or whatever, safe haven.

01:03:23.000 And they all skip over all of these countries.

01:03:25.000 Trump reinstituted that and said, that's what has to happen.

01:03:27.000 You have to apply for asylum in the first safe country you get to.

01:03:31.000 So when we're talking about Joe Biden letting these people in, we are speaking broadly of the sex traffickers, the drug traffickers, the gangs, the cartels, the criminals, and some, I think, who are fine people.

01:03:43.000 The Democrats ignore all of the crime and say they're legal asylees. 1.00

01:03:47.000 Well, because they change the they change, like you were saying, they change the definition of legal.

01:03:52.000 So they add all of these sort of like sub legal categories, refugee, asylum seeker, temporary protected status, you know, unaccompanied minor without having any way to check any of the ages or where they're from or how they got there or anything.

01:04:07.000 And so now you have Trump trying to revoke a lot of this stuff.

01:04:12.000 Um, like revoke the temporary protected status, which is what like half a million people from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti and say like, you know, you're done.

01:04:22.000 And the interesting thing about a lot of the people who come in on the temporary protected status program, and the refugee program is you don't have to be coming from The nation that has, you know, refugee-capable status.

01:04:35.000 You can be living perfectly comfortably somewhere else, like you could be a Haitian who moved to Bolivia or whatever, and you're coming now from Bolivia with Haitian refugee status, even though you're basically just giving up whatever life you had constructed in Bolivia. 0.92

01:04:51.000 Kind of like when the UN says anyone of Palestinian descent is a refugee, even if they've been, you know, in Jordan for like, 25, 30, 50 years.

01:05:01.000 Well, three generations.

01:05:02.000 Or three generations, or back to 58, whatever.

01:05:04.000 I have repeatedly called for all of these CBP agents to be imprisoned since this story came out.

01:05:12.000 And if they're, you know, Dan Bongino stepped down from one of the biggest live shows, biggest podcast in the world to serve at the FBI, and people always say, Tim, get into politics.

01:05:20.000 I never would do it.

01:05:21.000 There's one thing I would do.

01:05:23.000 If Donald Trump said, Tim, we want you to work in the DOJ, With Dan and Cash, and your only job is to find law enforcement officers who facilitated crimes against children, who otherwise broke their oath, and bring charges, investigate. Done.

01:05:40.000 Done, Mr. President.

01:05:41.000 Because there's a lot that I think, you know, and I'm kind of half kidding.

01:05:46.000 I'm just saying that's how passionate I am about this stuff.

01:05:48.000 But I think if as absurd a moment ever came up, If I was asked to go after the law enforcement officers who are facilitating children into sex trafficking because Biden told them to, I would do that in a heartbeat.

01:05:59.000 How do they live with themselves, you know?

01:06:02.000 That's an interesting question to ask, because you were talking about the lawyer who was talking about how he thinks that borders shouldn't exist at all.

01:06:09.000 Anyways, what is it about modern day, whether it's Democrats or leftist politics, that makes it so easy to ignore stories like this?

01:06:20.000 Is it some form of...

01:06:21.000 Sorry, it's actually worse than ignore.

01:06:23.000 And if I can give the example of...

01:06:25.000 cultural examples, two cultural examples.

01:06:27.000 One is the Sound of Freedom film.

01:06:29.000 This film was made about Tim Ballard, about sexual exploitation and trafficking of children.

01:06:36.000 They didn't just ignore that film.

01:06:38.000 Yes, they ignored it.

01:06:39.000 They demonized it.

01:06:40.000 They slandered him.

01:06:42.000 They went after him.

01:06:43.000 That film, which I saw in a Los Angeles theater, in a normal theater, erupted in applause at the end.

01:06:49.000 Everyone was in tears.

01:06:50.000 It moved everyone.

01:06:51.000 The people loved it.

01:06:53.000 Did crazy good numbers.

01:06:54.000 The people cared about it.

01:06:56.000 How did Hollywood treat it?

01:06:57.000 They wrote these slanderous articles.

01:07:00.000 They called it all conspiratorial.

01:07:02.000 Now the same thing happened in the music industry when Oliver Antony, the musician behind the song Rich Man North of Richmond, he has a line in there, I wish politicians would care about minors instead of minors on some island somewhere.

01:07:15.000 Same thing happened again.

01:07:16.000 They went after him for that line.

01:07:17.000 They said it's conspiratorial, he's playing into these right-wing influencer QAnon nonsense.

01:07:23.000 That's their attack.

01:07:24.000 How is it that this has become a political hotbed?

01:07:28.000 Like, this is partisan.

01:07:31.000 This is above politics. 0.89

01:07:34.000 You know, there was, for a long time, this conspiracy that powerful individuals were all pedophiles and engaged in sex trafficking. 1.00

01:07:40.000 And the media said, you're nuts. 0.98

01:07:42.000 And then the Epstein story broke and everyone went, whoa. 0.74

01:07:45.000 And today the big story was Virginia Giuffre posted that she has four days to live because she's in renal failure after a serious accident.

01:07:52.000 She got hit by a bus.

01:07:54.000 Hit by a bus.

01:07:54.000 I have a question.

01:07:55.000 Do you have any kids, Winston?

01:07:57.000 No. You do not have any, but Libby does. 0.70

01:07:59.000 I have one son.

01:08:00.000 So I would ask you, on a scale of Jason Statham to Liam Neeson, how crazy would you go if someone kidnapped your child?

01:08:06.000 Oh, I would lose it fully.

01:08:07.000 Liam Neeson?

01:08:08.000 Full Liam Neeson?

01:08:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:09.000 Wait, Liam Neeson is losing it fully?

01:08:12.000 Not Jason Statham?

01:08:13.000 I don't even know what you're talking about.

01:08:15.000 I've never seen those films because I can't handle viscerally this concept of someone taking my child.

01:08:21.000 I literally just can't handle it.

01:08:23.000 Jason Statham is the general...

01:08:25.000 Total destruction.

01:08:27.000 Arson. Total insanity.

01:08:30.000 Jason Statham has the general movies where he goes after people generally.

01:08:34.000 Yeah, he beat Rachel Zegler at the box office this weekend.

01:08:37.000 Oh my god!

01:08:38.000 That movie looks pretty good, actually.

01:08:40.000 But Liam Neeson had the specific movies where his kid got taken.

01:08:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:44.000 I mean, we're joking about it, but actually this is a really good question that you ask, and it's really relevant to my country, Britain.

01:08:50.000 You'll have heard of the British-Pakistani rape gangs, where over the course of decades, Tens of thousands of young British girls, predominantly white girls, were targeted by British Pakistani Muslim gangs because they were kafir. 0.99

01:09:06.000 What does that mean? 0.80

01:09:07.000 Not Muslim. 1.00

01:09:08.000 It just means they didn't think highly of them. 1.00

01:09:09.000 They thought they were trash. 1.00

01:09:10.000 They thought they were trash. 1.00

01:09:11.000 And didn't the cops also think they were trash? 1.00

01:09:12.000 The cops were complicit. 0.98

01:09:15.000 And these kids, there were cases where the kids When they reported on it happening to them, the kids themselves were arrested in one case because the young girl was drunk and disorderly.

01:09:28.000 They got her drunk.

01:09:29.000 But can I say why this is relevant to what Tim's question is? 0.82

01:09:33.000 Because after decades of that, after decades of the police doing fuck all about it, and last summer we had this horrible attack taken out by Axel Rudikibana on three young girls in Southport in the north of England, and The British a lot of British men were like we've had enough Tommy Robinson is an interview with Jordan Peterson said when he was a teenager his teenage cousin was Abused by one of these rape gangs.

01:10:03.000 And actually, this is what you're seeing in Britain is for how many decades can you go after our daughters before and not do anything before we respond? 0.70

01:10:11.000 You need to feel like full invincible.

01:10:13.000 I don't know if you guys watch that show, but full invincible on these guys.

01:10:16.000 I was gonna say I fear a full V for Vendetta, where the scene is the little girl wearing the mask is skipping down the street and the finger man shoots her and then all the people from the town show up with crowbars and baseball bats.

01:10:27.000 And then it's implied what happens.

01:10:28.000 Well, you remember you mentioned earlier, like, is this Is there going to be an event that leads to that?

01:10:32.000 I feel like information is so decentralized now and we're so disconnected as a society that there isn't one event like that that could do that the way it did in that movie.

01:10:41.000 The reason why I ask that question is because the opening scene in Sound of Freedom, the opening, not scene, but I guess scene, is a man's children are told they could be movie stars, they could be models, and to bring them up so they could get a test screening.

01:10:57.000 And the father brings them and they say, you have to wait outside.

01:11:00.000 We'll come back in a little bit.

01:11:02.000 And when he comes back, they're gone.

01:11:03.000 And his children have been taken.

01:11:05.000 And that, you know, the acting was superb.

01:11:08.000 But man, that nightmare scenario.

01:11:11.000 When I was a teenager, I was approached in Harvard Square by someone who was like, oh, you should be a model with us, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:18.000 And they gave me their card.

01:11:19.000 And I went home and I was like, Dad!

01:11:21.000 And he was like, no.

01:11:24.000 What's that card?

01:11:25.000 Where are these people?

01:11:26.000 That's scary, man.

01:11:27.000 And I was like, Dad, that would be fun.

01:11:28.000 I could make money.

01:11:29.000 And he was like, no, absolutely never.

01:11:31.000 You know, a lot of people told me that my opinion would change when I had a kid on a lot of things.

01:11:35.000 And I'm like, I find it largely is the same.

01:11:38.000 But the only thing that's changed is if it was done to me personally, it couldn't before when I didn't have a kid, and now it could.

01:11:46.000 And Liam Neeson on Super Soldier Serum, we'll call it that.

01:11:51.000 It would be a tremendous movie.

01:11:53.000 People would love it.

01:11:54.000 Superheroes and all.

01:11:55.000 Just do a movie where you combine Captain America and Liam Neeson and his daughter gets taken again.

01:12:00.000 Have you been following what's going on with the show Adolescence on Netflix and how it's talking about knife crime and incel culture and toxic masculinity amongst kids who are only 13 years old?

01:12:13.000 I have not seen the show itself, but this is all over the papers.

01:12:16.000 I haven't seen the show either.

01:12:17.000 A lot of right-wingers are upset because they The show depicts it as a young white kid who's doing it and right-wingers are upset because they would say the violence is actually from other ethnic groups.

01:12:29.000 I'm not sure I agree with that.

01:12:31.000 The director said that he took inspiration from the violence that horrified him about specific knife crime incidents and then people made that a racial issue.

01:12:41.000 The director says it's not that, but people make their...

01:13:03.000 I'm not saying that the online social media isn't affecting boys, but it seems that it's affecting girls a lot worse.

01:13:09.000 And examples of this would be the increase in suicide around young girls.

01:13:15.000 JD Vance has been talking a lot about censorship and worried about how British companies are going to be censoring Americans.

01:13:22.000 And that goes back to this online safety bill, which was inspired by the suicide of a young girl called Molly Adams.

01:13:31.000 I think Molly Brand and she committed suicide and it led to it but so the suicide rates among young girls not only that politically women are becoming far more progressive and they're going more extreme if you look at the the data of how the election through 2024 it seemed that women were turning harder to the left but the media and the liberal media painted it as men becoming more aggressive so what they're more politically extreme What they're doing right now is they just made adolescence available to all high schools throughout all

01:14:01.000 of the UK, per the Prime Minister, because they want to make sure that as many people can see it as possible, because they're painting the boys in the country as the problem.

01:14:10.000 And the other thing that was interesting is that not just that, but now they're teaching anti-misogyny classes to boys.

01:14:16.000 Oh, that'll work.

01:14:17.000 Yeah. This is the news from yesterday.

01:14:20.000 Toddler aged between 2 and 4 was suspended from school for being transphobic.

01:14:26.000 What was interesting about that was it was actually the period of, I think, the school year 2022 to 2023.

01:14:33.000 It was 178 children across grades were suspended for transphobia, homophobia.

01:14:41.000 Let me pull the story real quick.

01:14:42.000 It wasn't just one toddler.

01:14:43.000 Let me pull this up.

01:14:44.000 This is from the Independent.

01:14:45.000 94 in primary school.

01:14:46.000 Let's pull this one up.

01:14:47.000 Toddler accused of being transphobic or homophobic.

01:14:50.000 homophobic, was suspended from nursery.

01:14:53.000 So the age of the kid was what, two to four years old?

01:14:56.000 I think we're allowed to laugh at this one, right?

01:14:59.000 Maybe not.

01:15:00.000 I think you're allowed to laugh at basically anything.

01:15:02.000 There were more than 13 of these kids between the ages of nursery and second grade.

01:15:06.000 I think we are witnessing a shift that cannot exist.

01:15:13.000 I would describe it as, ooh, what are those things called?

01:15:16.000 Do you ever see Tamagotchis.

01:15:18.000 No! There's a river, and there will be lakes that are shaped like crescents next to the river.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, Moonbow Lake.

01:15:24.000 Oxbow Lakes.

01:15:25.000 Oxbow Lakes.

01:15:26.000 This guy, he knows what it's all about, right?

01:15:28.000 Not so learned over here.

01:15:29.000 So how are those formed?

01:15:31.000 Over time, the river, the water flow, there's more friction on one side than the other, causing the water to erode faster, creating a curve.

01:15:39.000 The river then starts snaking.

01:15:41.000 But eventually, the erosion will break through and the river will reconnect with itself, creating an oxbow, like I believe you call it.

01:15:48.000 That's how I view leftism right now.

01:15:51.000 What they're doing to young men will not survive for a variety of reasons.

01:15:55.000 The left is not having children.

01:15:57.000 They are attacking young men and masculinity.

01:16:00.000 Young men are going to try, they're going to want to look for masculine role models.

01:16:05.000 This is what's happening.

01:16:05.000 Exactly. Now, for a lot of them, it's Andrew Tate.

01:16:09.000 It doesn't need to be Andrew Tate, but He's a guy who says, you can be strong, rich, and successful like me, and there's a lot of guys who just wish they had the power to look into a camera and say, go F yourself, I got F you money.

01:16:21.000 So that's attractive to young men.

01:16:23.000 The left doesn't offer anything.

01:16:24.000 Harry Sisson?

01:16:25.000 Come on.

01:16:25.000 You think kids want to look like that guy?

01:16:27.000 Sorry, and he's a young man, I know, but what?

01:16:29.000 What do they got?

01:16:30.000 Who's that guy who's really short?

01:16:32.000 Robert Reich? 0.99

01:16:33.000 There should be a way to offer masculinity outside of the mold of politics, and outside of the mold of, you know, hating women and using them like trash. 1.00

01:16:43.000 We had it, and they destroyed him, and it's Jordan. 0.98

01:16:45.000 It's Jordan Peterson.

01:16:46.000 He was a really, I think, noble version of that, of teaching young boys how to fight.

01:16:50.000 I thought he was, yeah.

01:16:51.000 And they destroyed him, and what, totally predictable, I mean, I'm not sure they fully destroyed him, but By trying to destroy him, they push these kids to people like Andrew Tate, who, in my opinion, is deplorable.

01:17:02.000 But I do think that Jordan, Dr. Peterson, only goes so far.

01:17:07.000 You know, he had that famous tweet that went viral where he said, there are cathedrals everywhere for those with eyes to see, and it was an Evian water bottle.

01:17:15.000 Look, Dr. Peterson has a bunch of, has tremendous insights, and for a lot of young men, when he said, clean your room!

01:17:22.000 Find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it!

01:17:24.000 People were like, this is great!

01:17:26.000 And then he was easily mocked.

01:17:28.000 He cries too much.

01:17:29.000 He wears a weird suit.

01:17:31.000 Those suits are...

01:17:31.000 the suits are weird.

01:17:33.000 I'm not here to criticize the guy.

01:17:33.000 But I'd still rather have Jordan Peterson than Andrew Tate.

01:17:36.000 Of course, but what do you think a young man sees?

01:17:38.000 He sees the goofy guy being made fun of with a good message, and then he sees Andrew Tate, who's a world champion kickboxer, who's worth 50 plus million or however much million dollars, he's got a bunch of sports cars, and he talks about how he can have any woman he wants and he'll do whatever he says.

01:17:53.000 There's a lot of really great examples of masculinity, though, in our in our popular culture right now.

01:17:58.000 Matt Walsh is great and he has a lot of respect for his wife.

01:18:00.000 They have a whole bunch of kids.

01:18:01.000 That's still very political.

01:18:02.000 Yeah, well, everything is political at this point.

01:18:05.000 Once again, there are still areas where the left gets in their – look, the left cannot get Andrew Tate.

01:18:14.000 Matt Walsh.

01:18:15.000 He gets made fun of for a variety of things.

01:18:16.000 He made fun of The Little Mermaid.

01:18:18.000 They said, look at this grown man watching children's shows.

01:18:20.000 Well, he has like a hundred kids.

01:18:22.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:18:23.000 A young man who's 14, 15 goes online, and they see bearded Matt Walsh with a good message, and they see him easily being mocked by the left.

01:18:31.000 Haha, he's watching children's cartoons.

01:18:34.000 Look what he does for a living.

01:18:35.000 He watches kids cartoons and makes fun of them. 1.00

01:18:37.000 That's stupid. 1.00

01:18:38.000 Jordan Peterson, they say, look at his goofy tweets. 1.00

01:18:41.000 Andrew Tate, they say, He's abusing women. 0.99

01:18:43.000 He's trafficking them. 0.94

01:18:45.000 And it just makes him seem, like, dark and strong. 0.99

01:18:49.000 Well, and gross and horny. 1.00

01:18:50.000 It doesn't matter. 0.99

01:18:51.000 Not to—look, the young guy doesn't want to be mocked and ridiculed.

01:18:55.000 He's looking at Jordan Peterson, who's got a better message.

01:18:58.000 He's looking at Matt Walsh with a substantially better message, in my opinion, than both.

01:19:01.000 He's a dad.

01:19:01.000 He's got kids.

01:19:02.000 And he's strong.

01:19:02.000 And he's tough.

01:19:03.000 Then Matt posts a picture of him holding a baby goat, which is totally fine and normal. 0.87

01:19:08.000 But a young man looking for a ridiculous Superhero asking.

01:19:13.000 I'm not saying Andrew Tate is a superhero. 0.98

01:19:15.000 I'm saying they're looking for that ridiculously fake, dehydrated, you know, ripped muscle kind of guy.

01:19:23.000 Andrew Tate is the closest thing they're going to get to a guy who can't be mocked. 0.79

01:19:27.000 He can be insulted.

01:19:29.000 But he's not made fun of.

01:19:31.000 They try to make fun of him, but it never works.

01:19:33.000 Instead, you just have a guy who posts videos where he's walking with beautiful men in sunglasses, and he laughs.

01:19:38.000 And he does this on purpose.

01:19:39.000 He knows what he's doing.

01:19:40.000 Andrew Tate gets in that car.

01:19:41.000 The reporter, do you see this video?

01:19:42.000 The reporter asks him a question, and he goes, who are you with?

01:19:45.000 You're a nobody, and then peels out.

01:19:47.000 A young guy- Trump does that too. 0.93

01:19:49.000 Exactly. And this is what the left can't get past.

01:19:52.000 So my point is this.

01:20:21.000 Young women are going to want young men who are tough. 0.99

01:20:24.000 They don't want male feminists. 1.00

01:20:25.000 The male feminists will become increasingly unappealing. 1.00

01:20:28.000 There are substantially less male feminists. 1.00

01:20:30.000 Young men, Gen Z men, are skewing to the right. 1.00

01:20:33.000 So this means that for the liberal woman, which is 70% of millennials, when they go into the dating pool, it's going to be inverted. 1.00

01:20:41.000 Most of the guys are going to be on the right and they're going to say, I ain't dating you. 0.99

01:20:43.000 You're crazy. 0.99

01:20:44.000 You're going to me too me. 1.00

01:20:45.000 I'm out.

01:20:45.000 And we've already seen these stories.

01:20:48.000 They're going to have bad luck.

01:20:49.000 The younger women are going to go, I don't want to live that way. 1.00

01:20:52.000 I don't want to be some old, dried-up hag. 1.00

01:20:55.000 And they're gonna go for the bad boys. 0.97

01:20:57.000 And these bad boys are watching, unfortunately, Andrew Tate.

01:21:00.000 Well, we've hollowed out culture. 0.65

01:21:01.000 So we have, you know, deprived our young men of role models that they used to be able to have in literature and in like good films and things like this.

01:21:10.000 And I think that there's this void and it's being replaced by, you know, someone as horrible as Andrew Tate, which is really a shame. 0.94

01:21:17.000 But I think that it behooves the right not to celebrate people who suck and instead to Thank you. 0.94

01:21:31.000 books read classics look at classic films listen to good music instead of trash you know all of this stuff like we need to teach our our young men and women this so that when they're aspiring to be someone they're not looking at like you know the the disgusting millionaire guy who like bangs body modified chicks and in 0.97

01:21:53.000 Yeah. And maybe this is implicit in what you're both saying.

01:22:23.000 They didn't just destroy Jordan.

01:22:24.000 They destroyed all men. 0.85

01:22:25.000 They destroyed masculinity. 0.99

01:22:27.000 And so it's been a long erosion where, you know, we hear all this crap about toxic masculinity. 0.98

01:22:32.000 We've heard it for a long time. 0.84

01:22:33.000 And I actually think we are in the rebound from that, where actually girls are going, you know what, actually, I want real men. 0.95

01:22:39.000 And so I'm actually somewhat hopeful.

01:22:40.000 Well, how did you guys come up?

01:22:41.000 Because you guys didn't end up susceptible to all this nonsense.

01:22:45.000 Perhaps we're the generation before it.

01:22:47.000 Well, OK.

01:22:48.000 Part of it is also like there's like 20, 30, 40 years of your entertainment culture degrading men as well.

01:22:55.000 So I posted something recently about this very, very low budget show called Blue Ridge, where this dad, now he's divorced, but he wants to remarry the woman that he lost because he was in the service, he was in the militaries and special forces, and he was just away from his family.

01:23:12.000 But he has a daughter.

01:23:14.000 The daughter loves and respects him.

01:23:16.000 There's even a scene, and I'm pointing this out because like, There's a scene where a boy wants to take his teenage daughter out on a date, and he gives him the cold stare and makes the boy explain why he's right to take his daughter out on a date.

01:23:28.000 And I said, as simplistic as that story is, it's rare now.

01:23:33.000 And there aren't examples.

01:23:34.000 Now, that's not a show that I really think that any Kids are going to watch, but the point is you grow up with stuff like that, right?

01:23:40.000 You may have a family member who watches something like that, and there aren't a lot of great examples in popular culture of really, really good male role models that are not treated as buffoons.

01:23:50.000 Homer Simpson syndrome, right? 0.99

01:23:52.000 Where all the dads are buffoons and stupid, as opposed to being competent male role models who actually take care of their family. 1.00

01:24:00.000 You know, when I was growing up, I had my dad, of course, who was a no-nonsense guy. 1.00

01:24:07.000 And let me just say, maybe as an older man, he's calmed down a little bit.

01:24:13.000 But he was probably one of those guys who got into bar fights often for fun.

01:24:19.000 And so growing up with a dad who was very tough and strong and didn't take anything from anybody, that obviously rubs off on me to a certain degree.

01:24:27.000 But also growing up, I know it may seem silly, but we had superheroes.

01:24:32.000 And my favorite hero was always Batman.

01:24:34.000 You know why Batman's the best superhero ever?

01:24:36.000 Granted, they've made bad iterations of him.

01:24:38.000 At least in the 90s show, he's a regular human.

01:24:42.000 Granted, he's rich, but whatever.

01:24:43.000 And he inherited it.

01:24:45.000 But Batman, when you look into the comics and you read about what his powers really are, they call it peak human performance.

01:24:52.000 Peak human.

01:24:54.000 Batman as a superhero was the best a human could be.

01:24:57.000 Developing the best technology and being as strong as he possibly could with a strong moral code.

01:25:02.000 And so I was a fan.

01:25:03.000 I was a fan.

01:25:04.000 It was great content.

01:25:06.000 Superman was okay, but I didn't much care for heroes who just had powers.

01:25:09.000 I liked regular people who were better.

01:25:12.000 I loved the Michael Keaton Batman.

01:25:15.000 It's good stuff.

01:25:16.000 Yeah. You know, I like the X-Men and Spider-Man and all that stuff, but Batman was always like, you can just train.

01:25:22.000 I absolutely love this scene in Justice League where they're interrogating a supervillain.

01:25:27.000 And Superman's threatening him, the guy's laughing at him, and then Batman shows up and they're like, Bruce, we can't get him to talk or whatever.

01:25:33.000 They use their first names in Justice League, right?

01:25:35.000 And he goes, let me handle it.

01:25:36.000 He walks to the guy and he leans in and whispers, and the guy goes, I'll say anything!

01:25:39.000 I'll say anything!

01:25:40.000 And what I loved about that was, Batman is just a guy.

01:25:43.000 But he could do things no other superhero could do.

01:25:46.000 He trained himself to be the best, he built the best technology, and he put himself above all of the other superheroes.

01:25:52.000 It's a great character, it's a great inspiration, because It was just someone writing a story, to be honest.

01:25:57.000 But the story was that, and this is widely believed in comic book lore, Batman can defeat literally any, as it goes, Batman will defeat any supervillain or hero given enough preparation.

01:26:10.000 End of story.

01:26:10.000 That's what makes him so special.

01:26:12.000 Like the one where his list of all the ways to defeat the Justice League leaks.

01:26:17.000 Right. It was a great arc.

01:26:20.000 And they did a crossover.

01:26:21.000 with Marvel and DC, and Batman defeated the Incredible Hulk.

01:26:25.000 How did he do it?

01:26:26.000 He threw nerve gas and then struck Hulk's solar plexus, causing him to inhale, and then the Hulk passes out.

01:26:31.000 See, that's great.

01:26:32.000 Batman's the best.

01:26:33.000 That's good stuff.

01:26:34.000 It is. 1.00

01:26:35.000 And then they they ruin and bastardize with all the weird woke garbage. 1.00

01:26:38.000 But my point is, I'm not a big fan of kids looking up to fictional characters. 0.97

01:26:43.000 But some fictional characters are still good.

01:26:46.000 But What they need is good role models.

01:26:48.000 And you were pointing this out when you said they destroyed Jordan Peterson.

01:26:52.000 Well, I don't watch these kinds of films necessarily.

01:26:55.000 I'm not against them.

01:26:57.000 But these are archetypal storytelling and archetypal heroes.

01:27:04.000 And this is very much Joseph Campbell, the hero's journey.

01:27:08.000 And this is what we actually need for kids, I think, is in the stories.

01:27:11.000 And we destroyed that.

01:27:13.000 In movies, we went away from that at our peril.

01:27:18.000 And I think that going back to those great stories, you said it earlier, reading great books, it's not just the act of the book, it's because the example in those stories, these archetypal things, there's a reason why these biblical stories still resonate with us.

01:27:32.000 And that's where the ultimate archetypal stories are.

01:27:34.000 I blame conservatives.

01:27:35.000 There is that one specific story I can think of.

01:27:39.000 I blame conservatives.

01:27:42.000 So, uh, not completely obviously.

01:27:44.000 I'm somewhat being antagonistic on purpose, but...

01:27:47.000 I blame boomers, but we'll come back to that. 0.99

01:27:48.000 No, boomers made the next generation. 0.95

01:27:50.000 Captain Picard was a great role model.

01:27:53.000 Talk about...

01:27:53.000 that scene when Data asks Captain Picard, If terrorism is so deplorable, why has it been so successful throughout history?

01:28:02.000 And Picard says, these are questions that man has struggled with for eons.

01:28:06.000 And he says, I don't subscribe to the belief that political power is derived from the barrel of a gun.

01:28:13.000 Awesome role model.

01:28:14.000 But my point is this.

01:28:14.000 I'm back on a TNG rewatch.

01:28:16.000 So good, always.

01:28:17.000 The first Avenger, Captain America.

01:28:19.000 It was a $140- $216 million budget.

01:28:22.000 You combine that with marketing and its box office was $370 million.

01:28:26.000 I'd imagine, Brett, that implies it actually lost money, doesn't it?

01:28:29.000 Probably. I mean, it has to make two to three times its budget.

01:28:32.000 That's right.

01:28:33.000 Now, what was this movie about?

01:28:34.000 It was a scrawny young man with a myriad of ailments who kept trying to enlist to join the war front, to be combat in World War II, to ship out.

01:28:46.000 And they kept rejecting him because he was scrawny, frail, flat-footed, sickly, asthmatic. 1.00

01:28:52.000 But his character was so good, and he persevered, that they had a project, the Super Soldier Project, and one of the doctors saw in him nobility and honor.

01:29:01.000 Yeah, he jumped on the grenade.

01:29:02.000 He jumped, literally, in the movie.

01:29:04.000 Jack Nicholson, or I'm sorry, Tommy Lee, says, we don't need scrawny, we need strong!

01:29:09.000 And he pulls the grenade and throws it, it's a dummy, and all the guys jump away and he jumps on it.

01:29:14.000 And what that was saying was that You might be weak, you might not have the strength, you might be sick, but a noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.

01:29:25.000 What's so funny over there?

01:29:26.000 And so that movie was tremendously conservative values.

01:29:31.000 He's a 1930s guy.

01:29:34.000 He wants to date the girl.

01:29:35.000 He's very pure and very clean.

01:29:37.000 He wants to serve his country.

01:29:39.000 And we didn't get conservatives cheering the film on.

01:29:42.000 It was just kind of, sure, fine, whatever.

01:29:44.000 So what ends up happening is, The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

01:29:47.000 This is the kind of movie you want to promote to your kids and say, you can be a hero too.

01:29:51.000 Just be of good spirit and be of honor and truth and justice.

01:29:55.000 Then they made Captain Marvel.

01:29:57.000 Is that the girl one?

01:29:58.000 It's the girl one where she gets the powers by accident.

01:30:03.000 She doesn't deserve them. 0.72

01:30:04.000 She just gets them. 0.99

01:30:05.000 And then she immediately becomes a snooty evil woman who steals a guy's clothes because he told her to smile. 1.00

01:30:10.000 She has to defeat the man who keeps telling her to control her emotions.

01:30:13.000 That movie did a billion dollars. 0.86

01:30:14.000 Why? Because movies like Captain America before it were so good...

01:30:18.000 No, it made a billion dollars because Endgame wasn't out yet.

01:30:21.000 Because the next one did...

01:30:22.000 For sure.

01:30:22.000 Yes. But the point was the movies were so good, people wanted to see Endgame.

01:30:26.000 So when they announced they were doing this movie, people went and saw it.

01:30:28.000 And then they got the inverse message.

01:30:30.000 Haha, girl power sells, and Captain America doesn't, when in fact it's all the way around. 0.83

01:30:34.000 It's actually proven not to be true, because they haven't even advertised any of the women from the Marvels for the upcoming Doomsday, so...

01:30:41.000 I do want to at least jump to this one story before we get into Super Chat, so we're pushing it.

01:30:46.000 But we got this one from MSNBC.

01:30:48.000 Panel melts down after Trump says he's serious about running for a third term.

01:30:54.000 Oh boy.

01:30:54.000 Quick reaction, guys, to that Trump comment, entertaining a third term.

01:30:58.000 You first, David.

01:31:00.000 Believe him.

01:31:01.000 I think the biggest mistake of the last eight years is we somehow fail to give credibility to Donald Trump's whims and his impulses, but we know it's true.

01:31:09.000 And January 6th was a perfect example.

01:31:10.000 If he says that he's not ruling it out, he's not ruling it out, and we should consider it a constitutional threat.

01:31:16.000 Okay. Susan?

01:31:20.000 He's been pushing the envelope on testing the Constitution, so I expect that he'll continue to do that, maybe by seeking out a third term.

01:31:30.000 But more importantly, short term, we're not talking about Signal and that scandal, if Oh, cringe.

01:31:36.000 But that's the point here.

01:31:38.000 Donald Trump said he's serious about running for third term.

01:31:41.000 He's not joking.

01:31:42.000 And I'll tell you why he did.

01:31:44.000 Because it changes the news cycle.

01:31:47.000 And she points it out.

01:31:48.000 All they want to do is talk about Signal Gate, which is like the biggest non-story I've ever heard.

01:31:54.000 Like, I'm going to say it again, because I don't care about Signal Gate.

01:31:58.000 The Department of Defense, the government, the president, they loop journalists in when they determine journalists should be looped in.

01:32:04.000 A journalist got looped in, okay?

01:32:06.000 I don't care.

01:32:07.000 Now, do you guys think that Donald Trump is actually gonna run for a third term?

01:32:12.000 No. No, I don't think so.

01:32:14.000 All of the machinations of how it would have to happen would involve, like, some sort of J.D. Vance running, winning, and stepping down, and just on the basics of that alone.

01:32:23.000 No, no, no.

01:32:23.000 Aren't they talking about that?

01:32:24.000 No, if Trump actually ran for office.

01:32:26.000 No, I don't think that he would do that.

01:32:28.000 What if they were talking about a loophole where it's right.

01:32:31.000 But what if what if Trump does run in 2028?

01:32:35.000 And when they say you're ineligible, he says, so sue me.

01:32:39.000 And he brings it to the Supreme Court.

01:32:41.000 The Supreme Court then determines that I believe what's what the 22nd amendment is actually unconstitutional.

01:32:47.000 Maybe they'll decide that it was signed with auto pen.

01:32:50.000 Oh, yeah, therefore, you know, void.

01:32:53.000 No, I don't.

01:32:54.000 I don't think it's I don't think that's going to be the jam.

01:32:57.000 This is why your your liberal aunt hates you because they I'm serious. 0.96

01:33:02.000 I'm seriously we talked earlier about people Blocking off Tesla drivers and cutting them off and pulling them out of cars and hitting them.

01:33:10.000 It's these types of comments that absolutely fill their minds with the most fantastical worst case scenario they've ever heard.

01:33:18.000 They think he's a dictator.

01:33:19.000 They think he's a fascist.

01:33:20.000 And when he says stuff like this, it sets up especially the politically uninformed, the ones who only see headlines, the ones who don't look into it, who haven't paid attention to when people say outlandish things to change the news cycle. 0.92

01:33:34.000 It would actually make him more likable to people if they were like, look, he's kind of scummy.

01:33:38.000 He's trying to change the news cycle, but he's not doing it right.

01:33:41.000 on purpose, but he's not doing it to actually seek a third term.

01:33:44.000 That's actually more politically intelligent and diabolical, but that's not what they're going to take from this.

01:33:49.000 They're going to take that they think he's a fascist dictator, and it's going to ruin your Christmas.

01:33:54.000 It's going to ruin your Fourth of July.

01:33:56.000 Well, it's not going to ruin my Easter because liberals don't celebrate that.

01:33:58.000 Exactly. What if it's all just ironic support because we're sick of the left?

01:34:02.000 So, you know, during the holidays when the family's like, he says he's going to run for a third term and we don't really want him to, but we're like, good, I hope he wins.

01:34:09.000 Go Trump!

01:34:09.000 And we just, you know, You know, ingest or ironically support it.

01:34:12.000 And then we find like 20 years later, Robo Trump is still president.

01:34:15.000 Yeah. The one thing I keep the person I keep thinking of when they talk about the Trump third term is Christine Quinn, who was the head of the city council when Michael Bloomberg determined that he wanted to run for a third term.

01:34:26.000 And she backed his run for a third term.

01:34:28.000 And that was the end of her political career.

01:34:30.000 And I think that there are a lot of people who would not back Trump's third term, whether they were in favor of it or not, because that would be the end of their political careers.

01:34:43.000 That's great.

01:34:47.000 To be fair, Biden declared a new amendment to the Constitution with no authority.

01:35:04.000 He literally went and said, the ERA is now an amendment to the Constitution.

01:35:09.000 And the Democrats all agreed with him and cheered for it.

01:35:12.000 Sorry, what's the ERA?

01:35:13.000 The Equal Rights Amendment.

01:35:15.000 It was proposed in the 70s, and then it was like, you know, so women could have equal rights across the country, because apparently all the laws that said we had equal rights across the country were not valid somehow.

01:35:26.000 So it had to go get ratified by all the states, and it didn't get ratified by enough states in enough time, and so it was void, and the Supreme Court said, that's void, you can't keep voting on that.

01:35:39.000 Well, it did get enough votes, After the deadline.

01:35:44.000 So the ERA, let me pull this one up, states Article 1, equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state on account of sex.

01:35:57.000 The Congress shall have the power to enforce by appropriate legislation the provisions of this article.

01:36:01.000 Section 3, the amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.

01:36:04.000 Biden says the Equal Rights Amendment is law.

01:36:09.000 What happens next is unclear.

01:36:11.000 And all the women who oppose trans and gender ideology were against this because Biden had already remade the definition of sex to mean that men who say they are women are women.

01:36:25.000 So you already had a lot of women opposed to the ERA. 0.99

01:36:30.000 Who were not supporting it after it got enough votes after the deadline.

01:36:35.000 So that was part of the story.

01:36:36.000 Fair enough.

01:36:36.000 You've got me on that one.

01:36:38.000 But then if I can just on this question, one thing I noticed about Trump is that he'll say a lot to try and push the conversation and then it's out of the deal stuff, right?

01:36:50.000 He'll say the overplay, he'll say a ridiculous thing and he ends up getting something and Uh, uh, that actually is great on the, along the way.

01:36:58.000 Two recent examples will be Ga, Trump, Mara Gaza.

01:37:02.000 He said that America is going to take over, which by the way, his base don't want anything to do with another president.

01:37:07.000 Foreign Affairs We're

01:37:38.000 good. What's the art of the deal in this?

01:37:54.000 What's the thing he's hoping to get out of it?

01:37:56.000 I think what you're saying is that he's trying to move the news cycle along.

01:37:59.000 The funny thing is that Democrats have argued Trump does this, but they always seem to get amnesia.

01:38:05.000 And the issue is whenever there's a big scandal, Donald Trump will say something outrageous, which triggers the media.

01:38:10.000 The media then goes for the sensational headline and abandons the thing that's actually politically disadvantageous.

01:38:16.000 Which is what in this case?

01:38:18.000 Well, I think Signal Gate wasn't going away.

01:38:20.000 That's an obvious one.

01:38:21.000 But you don't think...

01:38:22.000 Okay, so Signal Gate, you said, wasn't that big a deal.

01:38:25.000 Right. Now, I don't think Signal Gate is at all a big deal in America.

01:38:30.000 I don't think Americans care about Signal Gate particularly.

01:38:32.000 I think the media and the chattering classes do. 0.97

01:38:34.000 Right. I think it's a big deal in the rest of the world.

01:38:38.000 What? Because...

01:38:39.000 Well, they don't know anything about our government.

01:38:42.000 That might be the case, but I think what a lot of had happened is a lot of people will have seen Signal Gate and been like, oh, America really don't really want to get involved.

01:38:52.000 They're really, you know, I think Russia and China and the adversaries of America will see that and be like, this is a China will be like, this is a really good time to invade Taiwan.

01:39:02.000 Do you mean the messages of Signal Gate?

01:39:04.000 I see the leak itself.

01:39:06.000 Yeah, but but so my arguments initially I'm not entirely convinced now, but I wouldn't be surprised if they brought Goldberg into that chat on purpose, because he would be tricked into espousing their talking points, which it really does seem like is what he did.

01:39:23.000 When you read these chats, I said, there's no shorthand.

01:39:27.000 And text groups usually have more messages in this in short and not a perfect scripted yes, no, yes, no.

01:39:33.000 That seemed weird to me.

01:39:34.000 Why would they be having this this kind of talk two hours before the strikes?

01:39:37.000 Why wouldn't they be flying to DC and having a discussion in a secure conference room or the SCIF to discuss these attacks going over logistics?

01:39:45.000 For what purpose would that chat even exist?

01:39:47.000 It makes no sense to me.

01:39:48.000 Not to mention there was no classified information in it.

01:39:51.000 Save the argument that launch times may be classified, I don't think they actually cared all that much.

01:39:58.000 I don't know if the probability dictates that they intentionally brought Goldberg in, but, you know, because they wanted to trick him.

01:40:06.000 But the message that came out, J.D. Vance, this is not aligned with Donald Trump's message, the American people don't even know who the Houthis are.

01:40:13.000 I could not have dreamed up a better statement to the American people.

01:40:17.000 Yes, a very good statement to the American people, but it's not them that is the problem. 0.63

01:40:23.000 It's what Trump and his team care about.

01:40:25.000 Of course it is, but the message it sends to the adversaries of America, and I appreciate this is an America First, and I also appreciate very much the message within the signal.

01:40:35.000 To address what you said about Russia and China, Trump campaigned on this.

01:40:40.000 So Russia and China should already know.

01:40:43.000 Iran should already know. 0.73

01:40:44.000 Trump's not interested in foreign entanglements.

01:40:46.000 He told the American people no new wars.

01:40:49.000 He was championed by the Libertarians specifically because he didn't start any wars.

01:40:53.000 That's the case, but Trump also realizes peaceful strength.

01:40:58.000 He understands the power of deterrence.

01:41:04.000 And so he's not someone who's like, oh, he wants no war by saying we're prepared to use war.

01:41:10.000 He's that kind of a president.

01:41:12.000 He understands the power he wields as American president, and that peace can come that way.

01:41:17.000 So, the message is, my concern with those messages is that it's like, oh, he's actually not prepared.

01:41:24.000 You know, China could take Taiwan, and Trump doesn't want to get involved.

01:41:28.000 I disagree.

01:41:29.000 Pete Hegseth, I think it was Hegseth, who said in the messages, we have to do it, we're the only ones who can do it, we just need them to pay us for it.

01:41:35.000 So, then he went ahead and did it.

01:41:38.000 Yeah, I gotta be honest.

01:41:40.000 I think one of the reasons they're hammering so hard on Signal Gate, the scandal, is because they don't want Trump to get the PR narrative out about the messages that were sent.

01:41:49.000 If the story was the context of the messages, it's a great story for Trump.

01:41:53.000 A journalist reports on the deliberations, deep and thoughtful.

01:41:56.000 Look at what the spokesperson said.

01:41:58.000 This looks like a deep and thoughtful deliberation over an attack.

01:42:01.000 Trump knew that if he launched an attack on Yemen, it would make him look bad in the eyes of his supporters.

01:42:08.000 The interview I did with Trump ended up getting a lot of play because Trump said, we are not going to do this.

01:42:13.000 Diplomacy will work.

01:42:15.000 So I imagine it like Trump says, we got to bomb the Houthis. 0.68

01:42:18.000 They're blocking the Red Sea. 0.86

01:42:20.000 Europe's pissed.

01:42:21.000 And then they're going, we could.

01:42:24.000 But if we do this, your base is going to be pissed off.

01:42:27.000 We do not need foreign entanglements. 1.00

01:42:28.000 Trump said, well, we got to do it.

01:42:31.000 How do we how do we get the message away that we look reluctant and we don't really want to do it to the American people who majority of them do not want war?

01:42:38.000 The narrative shifted away.

01:42:40.000 I mean, this is crazy.

01:42:41.000 Glenn Greenwald's blasting this off.

01:42:43.000 I'm getting tagged by tweet after tweet after tweet from all these personalities saying, look at what Trump said to Tim.

01:42:48.000 We are not going to do this.

01:42:49.000 And then what happened?

01:42:51.000 A couple of days after that story, when Trump was in the scandal over all the activists and people complaining about the military strikes, it shifted to this evil journalist.

01:43:00.000 leaked information on the president to make him look bad.

01:43:03.000 Okay, so I'll go along with that.

01:43:20.000 Real quick, one simplified point.

01:43:22.000 What matters more that Donald Trump started bombing Yemen, a country we are not at war with, or a journalist published some messages?

01:43:31.000 If that's the case, why, and forgive me if I'm being slow here, why then do the third term thing as a red herring?

01:43:39.000 Why would you want to get people off that story?

01:43:40.000 I don't know that the third term thing is specifically to shift the narrative off of Signalgate.

01:43:45.000 It may be.

01:43:47.000 It could be the deportations.

01:43:48.000 The other thing that Signal Gate distracted from is Trump was in the thick of it with the judges over his deportations of Trinidad and Tobago.

01:43:56.000 The reason why he wants to get the PR off those, they fundraise off it.

01:44:00.000 The media runs these stories about deportation.

01:44:03.000 Trump has to then deal with all these legal battles where they're raising tons of money.

01:44:07.000 I gotta say, Signal Gate was a great story for Trump in so many ways.

01:44:10.000 There's nothing to fundraise off of!

01:44:12.000 When deporting a gay barber, They're going, Donald Trump, or, what was the name, Romesa? 0.88

01:44:20.000 Something like that. 0.95

01:44:20.000 Yeah, Osterker, whatever. 0.95

01:44:21.000 They say, his brown shirts are kidnapping people.

01:44:25.000 We need your help.

01:44:26.000 Donate now.

01:44:27.000 The Gestapo is here. 1.00

01:44:28.000 Trump's a fascist. 0.98

01:44:29.000 Now the whole story in the press is, Trump's guy texted a journalist. 1.00

01:44:35.000 Whoops. What do you fundraise off of?

01:44:37.000 Stop Trump from texting the Atlantic.

01:44:40.000 Give us money.

01:44:40.000 Nope. Can't raise money off that.

01:44:43.000 Trump running for a third term may actually help them, to be honest.

01:44:46.000 So I don't know why he does it. 1.00

01:44:47.000 To be honest, sometimes Trump just says dumb shit. 1.00

01:44:50.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:44:50.000 He's that kind of guy. 1.00

01:44:52.000 Steve Bannon mentioned it and he goes, well, do it, maybe.

01:44:55.000 I'm not joking.

01:44:55.000 He's poking fun or he's prodding, whatever.

01:44:58.000 Yeah. But...

01:44:59.000 He does like to say stuff.

01:45:00.000 But maybe I'm crazy. 1.00

01:45:01.000 Maybe they really just brought some moron into the chat. 0.99

01:45:04.000 Let's go to your chats, my friends. 0.96

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01:45:32.000 T-Bomb.

01:45:33.000 He said this before the show even started, by the way.

01:45:35.000 Civil War? 0.99

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01:45:55.000 I thought it was going to be a more serious one about Civil War, but well done. 0.98

01:45:59.000 Let's go.

01:46:02.000 Cochizzle says, Hey yo, chicken, much love, all.

01:46:05.000 Did I get first?

01:46:06.000 You didn't, but I like the chicken emoji.

01:46:07.000 It was greatly appreciated.

01:46:10.000 All right.

01:46:12.000 TheRealHydroPX says, Tim, I liked the hoodie you were wearing on Friday.

01:46:15.000 But what will you tell your kid when they get old enough to ask why you dress the same every day?

01:46:20.000 They won't.

01:46:22.000 Because they're going to, every day, see me wearing the exact same thing, and it'll be normal, and they're actually going to say, Dad, or she's going to say, how come people wear different clothes all the time?

01:46:32.000 And I'm going to say, because they haven't found their identity yet.

01:46:35.000 And they're constantly trying to find ways to stand out.

01:46:38.000 Poor, poor people.

01:46:40.000 Poor people.

01:46:41.000 I'm kidding, by the way.

01:46:44.000 Alright, let's grab some more.

01:46:45.000 What do we got?

01:46:46.000 Philip Mitchell says, Trump 2028, I would certainly vote for him over any Democrat.

01:46:51.000 Yeah, I would. 0.96

01:46:52.000 Grog Bear the Fearsome says, holy crap, from Mumford& Sons, that was my high school experience. 0.86

01:46:57.000 Glad to see and hear you. 0.98

01:46:59.000 Wassup? Glad to have soundtracked to your high school experience.

01:47:04.000 I hope you had a good high school experience.

01:47:05.000 It wasn't a negative association.

01:47:07.000 What is this?

01:47:08.000 Shugie says, 98% of this country has never thrown a punch.

01:47:11.000 Let's be serious.

01:47:12.000 Women have thrown more fists than the men. 1.00

01:47:16.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:47:17.000 Maybe less they're driving Teslas than people are throwing punches left and right.

01:47:20.000 Well, I actually think this might be true.

01:47:22.000 There's two questions.

01:47:23.000 Well, there's a lot of questions.

01:47:24.000 But one is, there's more guys doing combat sports, so they're throwing a lot of punches.

01:47:29.000 However, on average, a woman's punch is not that powerful. 1.00

01:47:33.000 Bad, so they're probably throwing punches more because there's less of an impact.

01:47:38.000 If, like, a woman playfully punches a guy in the shoulder, actually hurting him doesn't really hurt him that bad.

01:47:42.000 It's like, you know, a light jab.

01:47:44.000 Guys tend not to punch unless they really have to because a guy actually punching would flatten.

01:47:49.000 You know, a lady or another guy.

01:47:51.000 Men are doing more contact sports and whatever.

01:47:56.000 What do you call it?

01:47:57.000 Wrestling and MMA and all this.

01:47:58.000 Combat sports.

01:47:59.000 Combat sports.

01:47:59.000 Do you think that that reduces the amount of fighting out in the streets?

01:48:04.000 Because men are more constrained.

01:48:07.000 They have a place to vent that sort of energy and more control over themselves.

01:48:12.000 So if that is true, then yes, women may well be throwing more punches. 1.00

01:48:16.000 Indeed. Well, I think...

01:48:19.000 Again, the consequences of a woman throwing a punch is minimal. 1.00

01:48:22.000 The consequence of a man is great. 0.88

01:48:23.000 So guys aren't going to be refraining from punching.

01:48:26.000 But I don't know.

01:48:27.000 I don't think it's true.

01:48:28.000 I'm saying there's a potential argument there.

01:48:30.000 Crash Bandit says, Leftists are locking political opponents up all around the Western world.

01:48:37.000 This is not just a USA problem.

01:48:39.000 France, Poland, Hungary, on and on.

01:48:42.000 Yes, we've seen that today with Marine Le Pen, who's favorite for the 2027 presidential election, and she has been down for embezzlement.

01:48:51.000 Which is fake, it's all fake.

01:48:52.000 It seems a little...

01:48:53.000 It was that she was paying aides with money that was supposed to be for aides from a different region or something, or a different country.

01:49:00.000 Even if it was real, the current sitting prime minister, not president, prime minister of France, whose name I think is Bayrou, I've forgotten exactly, Had very similar charges and he did not get the same sort of punishment.

01:49:14.000 So there's a different Double he was found guilty, but not Not barred not barred and and so there's definitely a double standard.

01:49:24.000 She is a big threat to Europe because she is anti-eu I would note and it's important to know she is a national socialist and She's described as far, right?

01:49:37.000 the Parti Rassemblement National are very much National Socialist I saw this really great post on an anti-Trump subreddit.

01:49:51.000 I think it's actually called anti-Trump.

01:49:52.000 That's a subreddit.

01:49:53.000 I browse all of these forums and stuff.

01:49:55.000 I like to see what the left is talking about.

01:49:56.000 And it said something like...

01:49:58.000 How do I explain to my, you know, relatives how bad Trump is?

01:50:03.000 And one of the top, the top comment was, Trump is trying to destroy the liberal economic order that was created after World War II to create strong economic ties between nations that would prevent the world from falling into further chaos.

01:50:16.000 He's trying to destroy this and dismantle it because he cares more about America, blah, blah, blah.

01:50:20.000 And I was like, based.

01:50:23.000 Well, that actually ties into...

01:50:24.000 Have you read Rusty Reno?

01:50:25.000 R.R. Reno?

01:50:26.000 This is a worldview that I prescribe to, which is that after the war, Karl Popper wrote his book, The Open Societies and Its Enemies, and George Soros was one of his students at the London School of Economics.

01:50:43.000 What Popper did was he separated the world, he created this dichotomy, one which I believe is a false dichotomy, is that open societies you had democracy, freedom, liberty, and in closed societies not only did you have fascism and Nazism, which we all agree should be,

01:50:59.000 are bad, but he also threw in nationalism and religion and so But more importantly, that book has the footnote of the tolerance paradox, which is that anyone who incites intolerance, that should be deemed criminal.

01:51:18.000 And the reason why I think that this comment is right, because the populist movement we're seeing worldwide is a, I think, reaction to the post-World War II consensus.

01:51:30.000 And a lot of the globalism, the Davos, this comes from that consensus, is that one of the lessons from World War II is nationalism is bad.

01:51:39.000 Actually, in America, I don't think you learned that lesson, because it was America defeated Nazism because of your nationalism.

01:51:46.000 We defeated it with nationalism.

01:51:47.000 You did.

01:51:47.000 In Europe, we learned a different story, which was that it was nationalism that caused But we ended up with anti-nationalism eventually and the destruction of our borders.

01:51:56.000 Yes, and I do think that was born from this ideology.

01:51:59.000 And I do think that Trump and all the populists are a reaction against the post-World War II consensus.

01:52:06.000 Yeah, I mean, we had, like, once the end of history hit, you know, we were definitely Anti-nationalist, anti-America, anti-conservative values, anti-religion, all of that stuff.

01:52:18.000 And the populist movement is a sovereigntist movement.

01:52:20.000 It's about sovereignty.

01:52:21.000 It's about the people taking back control of their borders, of their democracy, of their power.

01:52:26.000 That's what Brexit was, and that's what I see happening in Argentina.

01:52:31.000 A lot of the Maloney in Italy, France, Le Pen kind of gets put into that.

01:52:36.000 She's a bit complicated in my opinion, but yeah. 0.87

01:52:39.000 Let's read this one.

01:52:40.000 We got this from Jeremy over at The Quartering.

01:52:43.000 Tim, please shout out Brad Schimmel.

01:52:45.000 And yes, on Voter ID, the vote is tomorrow in Wisconsin.

01:52:49.000 We need the Beanie Crew. 1.00

01:52:50.000 We're behind but can come back.

01:52:53.000 This is big.

01:52:55.000 You've got a major issue with the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

01:52:59.000 They're going to redistrict.

01:53:00.000 That's the fear.

01:53:01.000 And they're going to give Democrats two new seats and take them from the Republicans if this happens.

01:53:05.000 So everybody in Wisconsin, You must look this up.

01:53:08.000 You got to do what you got to do.

01:53:09.000 You got to do your duty.

01:53:10.000 You got to go vote.

01:53:10.000 You got to go vote!

01:53:12.000 And this is what Elon's doing up there, right?

01:53:14.000 Indeed, yeah.

01:53:15.000 If you're lucky, you might get a million dollars from Elon if you do it the right way.

01:53:18.000 I love it.

01:53:18.000 Elon, I'm a big fan of Elon.

01:53:20.000 Has he been on the show?

01:53:21.000 He has not.

01:53:22.000 But he'd fit right in here.

01:53:25.000 Yeah, probably.

01:53:26.000 We've talked about it before.

01:53:27.000 You know, here's the thing with how we do booking.

01:53:29.000 We're not very forceful.

01:53:32.000 So, you know, we've had a lot of people from the Trump admin and even the Trump family come on the show.

01:53:36.000 And they'd always say, like, we can get you a show with Donald.

01:53:38.000 And I'm like, eh, you know, like, if it happens, it happens.

01:53:42.000 I'm not the kind of guy who goes and pounds on the door over and over again, begging, you know, this kind of stuff.

01:53:46.000 So we've reached out to Elon.

01:53:48.000 He's actually, I think, agreed to on some occasion, but we just never really get around to it.

01:53:53.000 He's a busy guy.

01:53:54.000 He's a busy guy.

01:53:54.000 But we'd be lucky to have him if we ever did.

01:53:58.000 He does follow me on X, but I try not to pester people, you know.

01:54:03.000 People try to DM me all the time and stuff, and I'm like, Everybody's always trying to go up the ladder of who they can DM for some favor or whatever, so I try to avoid them.

01:54:11.000 You say that, but you're also very warm and you seem to look after people.

01:54:17.000 Have you always been like that with Not Passion?

01:54:20.000 Was there a time at the beginning when you were building this thing where you actually did?

01:54:24.000 Because when I started with my show, at the beginning, trying to get guests is that bloody hardest thing.

01:54:28.000 You get to a certain size, people want to come on the show because they know it's good for them.

01:54:33.000 But you weren't like that at the beginning?

01:54:34.000 No, no, no.

01:54:35.000 You know, we got lucky.

01:54:37.000 In the beginning, we had a few guests who were not, you know, particularly as big.

01:54:40.000 I think Corey DeAngelis was one of our first guests.

01:54:43.000 And then we weren't planning on doing guests.

01:54:46.000 We were like, we'll see what happens.

01:54:47.000 COVID happened, and we had no guests.

01:54:50.000 But the show ended up getting really big because of the lockdown.

01:54:53.000 Everybody was watching podcasts and nothing else to do.

01:54:55.000 And then when they lifted the first lockdowns, we started booking people.

01:55:00.000 We had a massive viewership at that time.

01:55:02.000 We were getting I mean, it was it was nuts during COVID.

01:55:04.000 We were getting like over a million per day, every night.

01:55:07.000 No way.

01:55:07.000 Yeah, it was it was absolutely bonkers.

01:55:10.000 And the segments from the show we're getting like half a million each is absolutely ridiculous.

01:55:16.000 But the ad rates were gone, because nobody was buying ads anymore.

01:55:19.000 So we weren't really making a lot of we're making a lot of money.

01:55:21.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:55:21.000 But like, relative to the views we were getting, the money wasn't there.

01:55:25.000 Don't get me wrong, like a lot of money was made.

01:55:27.000 But What were the views before COVID?

01:55:31.000 What was that like?

01:55:31.000 We started two months before COVID started.

01:55:35.000 We were getting between 2,000 and 7,000 concurrent viewers.

01:55:38.000 My morning show was big, which now IRL is the big show.

01:55:42.000 But before we launched IRL, TimCast, the morning show, my main podcast, was like the 34th biggest in the world.

01:55:49.000 Wow. Are you still doing that show now?

01:55:51.000 Yeah, but now it's not even on the shirts.

01:55:53.000 IRL took it.

01:55:54.000 Ran away with it.

01:55:55.000 So sorry, so this is Tim.

01:55:57.000 This is IRL.

01:55:58.000 This is IRL.

01:55:59.000 Yeah, okay, so you don't want to show you do this Yeah, so there's a Tim cast on YouTube, which is now largely the culture war, but we brought back The so it's an hour-long daily news on the what was like usually the biggest story and so that channels basically come back every day at 4 p.m We're putting up those videos again,

01:56:15.000 and then Then then we've got segments at 10 noon 1 3 and 6 Okay, so it's five independent independent 20 minute and four 10 minute segments, an hour long show, which is exclusively on Rumble live at noon, but then becomes the hour YouTube video at four.

01:56:33.000 And then Timcast IRL, which is two and a half, two hours, 45 minutes.

01:56:38.000 And did 20, did you have a good 2024 of the election year?

01:56:40.000 That must have been a big bump.

01:56:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:56:42.000 Yeah. They've all been good.

01:56:43.000 Yeah. And is it that, have you maintained into 2025?

01:56:47.000 I mean, actually, yeah.

01:56:49.000 So our viewership's improving, but it's largely due to Strategy and work and things like this.

01:56:56.000 So, strangely, you know, a year ago, when YouTube launched shorts, we were getting millions on every short.

01:57:02.000 And then they changed the algorithm, and now it's prioritizing a different style of short, and now we get only a few thousand, despite doing them the exact same way.

01:57:10.000 That's the annoying thing about how YouTube changes the algorithm.

01:57:12.000 But now we're changing the algorithm again, and we're making unique videos.

01:57:16.000 The goal is, obviously, in the morning show, it'll always do better than IRL shorts, because for the morning show, It's like, I watch and react to content all day, and the shorts are just minute-long versions of that, so we found a better way to do them.

01:57:29.000 But, uh, yeah.

01:57:30.000 Viewership has largely improved.

01:57:31.000 In fact, when we launched this deal with Rumble, our IRL viewership more than doubled.

01:57:35.000 Wow, fantastic.

01:57:36.000 So seriously, yeah.

01:57:37.000 Like, it's pretty crazy, because, um, when we launched in mid-February, we were getting, on average, maybe like 50,000 concurrents on YouTube.

01:57:47.000 When we joined with Rumble, it split the audience a little bit.

01:57:51.000 But today, I think we had 67,000 concurrence.

01:57:54.000 So Rumble's audience is a different audience that didn't know the show and didn't watch it.

01:57:58.000 But now that we're there, they get exposed to it.

01:57:59.000 So it's kind of crazy because now on Rumble, we get like 300 to 400k.

01:58:03.000 On YouTube, we get like 300, 400k.

01:58:05.000 Then on the audio side, we get 100 to 200.

01:58:08.000 So we're getting like a million an episode now with the Rumble deal.

01:58:11.000 Rumble, I don't know if you guys saw this.

01:58:12.000 Shout out to Rumble.

01:58:15.000 They own almost every single top live news show now.

01:58:19.000 So, the rankings that come out every day?

01:58:22.000 Last Monday, on the 24th, the top 15 live streams for news content, 11 were Rumble.

01:58:31.000 It's wild.

01:58:32.000 And there are people, they don't like Rumble taking over the game.

01:58:36.000 They don't like it, but it's happening.

01:58:37.000 What are those top shows?

01:58:39.000 The top three, actually, I think, were Crowder, Vince, and then me.

01:58:44.000 And then you've got Viva Frye, I think... 1.00

01:58:47.000 I can pull it up, actually.

01:58:50.000 There's something I've been noticing.

01:58:52.000 I was wanting to pick on your guys' attitude from the inside, but looking at the American media escape, it seems to have changed quite a lot even since the election.

01:59:00.000 Take a look at this.

01:59:01.000 And this was last Monday.

01:59:04.000 I believe it was the last Monday, right?

01:59:06.000 The 24th?

01:59:06.000 Am I getting this wrong?

01:59:07.000 Yeah, last week Monday.

01:59:09.000 Crowder number one, Vince number two, Timcast number three, Quartering number four, Timcast IRL number five, Bonjina Report with Avita and Haley was six, Redacted News was seven, then you had Live Now from Fox at number eight, and number nine was Timcast IRL again on YouTube!

01:59:23.000 So you got three in the top ten?

01:59:25.000 You're like the Fatals of Newscasting.

01:59:29.000 The funny thing is, if you were to combine the two shows, we probably would have been Tim Castellaro, probably would've been number three.

01:59:36.000 But then you have Julia Green on Rumble, Bannon's Warren on Rumble, Viva Fry on Rumble, Glenn Greenwald on Rumble, then Benny Johnson, and then Midas Touch.

01:59:42.000 The top 15, 11 were on Rumble.

01:59:45.000 Because Rumble's doing, not only they're doing the morning lineup, but they're also featuring people throughout the day on the front page, which is free advertising for people who are producing good content, who are on that platform.

01:59:57.000 And this is top news.

01:59:58.000 If you look at the actual top all streams, I think Tim Cass was number four.

02:00:04.000 Because there was someone on like Kick or whatever doing gaming content that always wins.

02:00:07.000 But yeah, it's been massive, man.

02:00:09.000 The only one you could say is from the left is Glenn Greenwald, and he's from the old left.

02:00:12.000 Is there anyone else there?

02:00:13.000 Might as touch.

02:00:14.000 He's super far left.

02:00:16.000 Or I hate to say far left.

02:00:18.000 Glenn Greenwald is in our worldview.

02:00:20.000 He's more of a liberal guy, but you know, he's anti-establishment.

02:00:23.000 He's more likely to find himself on the free speech side.

02:00:26.000 He's epistemologically pretty similar to us.

02:00:28.000 He just has different ideas.

02:00:30.000 This is actually massive.

02:00:32.000 I will say this.

02:00:33.000 The only true left liberal show is Midas Touch.

02:00:39.000 On the whole of the top 15 in news.

02:00:41.000 That's crazy.

02:00:43.000 The top 15 news live streams.

02:00:46.000 All considered right-wing.

02:00:48.000 Now if we actually want to break this down, it's not.

02:00:51.000 It's not all right-wing.

02:00:52.000 You can say Crowder's right, Vince is right, Timcast is moderate, Quartering is moderate, IRL is moderate, Bongino is right, Redacted is probably right.

02:01:02.000 Definitely right.

02:01:02.000 IRL again, Julia Green is gonna be right, Bannon is right, Viva Frye moderate, Glenn Greenwald liberal, Benny Johnson right, Midas Touch left.

02:01:10.000 One actual left.

02:01:12.000 That's crazy.

02:01:14.000 Wow. Yeah.

02:01:16.000 Shoutout to Rumble, man.

02:01:17.000 Even right now on Rumble we got more viewers than YouTube.

02:01:21.000 My show hasn't made the top 15. I'd be surprised.

02:01:24.000 Oh, actually, it's not a live streams thing.

02:01:26.000 But you can see the Winston Marshall Show on Rumble.

02:01:29.000 Is anyone listening?

02:01:30.000 I do.

02:01:30.000 Come on over.

02:01:31.000 The water's fine.

02:01:34.000 Yeah. Is that where you broadcast?

02:01:36.000 You're broadcasting on Rumble?

02:01:37.000 We do Rumble and YouTube.

02:01:38.000 Nice. Yeah, The Morning Show has been massive too.

02:01:41.000 So now you can see here, Timcast, The Morning Show is the third biggest live stream.

02:01:45.000 Since I launched on Rumble, The Morning Show is now getting, it was getting between two and three hundred thousand on YouTube.

02:01:51.000 Now we switch it to exclusively for an hour on Rumble and it's getting 300 to 400 thousand, sometimes more.

02:01:57.000 Then it goes up at 4 p.m. as the YouTube video, it's getting about a hundred on average, but it's only been a week.

02:02:03.000 So we'll see.

02:02:05.000 Those videos used to get, on my main channel, I used to get half a million.

02:02:09.000 Between 250 to half a million, but then I stopped producing those videos, so we'll see.

02:02:13.000 I'd love to get your guys' opinion on what's happened to the media in America since the election.

02:02:18.000 We know all about what's happened to media before the election.

02:02:22.000 It was the podcast election, that's what they're calling it.

02:02:24.000 So where are they going?

02:02:26.000 And obviously since the election, you know, Gavin Newsom and Michelle Obama, they're trying to start their podcasts.

02:02:32.000 But there's a few other curious things that happened.

02:02:35.000 Firstly, what the hell is happening at the Daily Wire?

02:02:39.000 Oh, I've got information.

02:02:42.000 What's the scoop?

02:02:43.000 We gotta go to the Members Only Uncensored, though.

02:02:46.000 It is past 10 o'clock.

02:02:48.000 So I have information pertaining to what's going on at the Daily Wire, of course, because I know these guys and I know people who work there.

02:02:54.000 And so I hear whispers.

02:02:56.000 There are friends of the Timcast, we call them.

02:02:59.000 We don't call them spies.

02:03:01.000 Does anybody know that reference?

02:03:02.000 I just watched Silo.

02:03:03.000 I binged it.

02:03:04.000 Great show, by the way.

02:03:05.000 Yeah, Apple TV.

02:03:06.000 Silo's good.

02:03:07.000 Anyway, my friends, rumble.com slash TimCastIRL.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 01, 2025

GOP Office TORCHED, Terror Suspected, Elon Says ARREST Dem Funders w-Winston Marshall | Timcast IRL

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