On this episode of the Uncensored Calling Show: Elon Musk is calling for those responsible for the attack on Tesla to be charged, a Republican office in New Mexico is apparently attacked in an act of terrorism, Donald Trump says he's not running for re-election, and Ian s Graphene Dream is back in stock!
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00:07:48.000All right, let's get to the news, my friends.
00:07:50.000From the AP, the first story, this is crazy.
00:07:53.000Fire at New Mexico GOP headquarters under investigation as arson.
00:07:59.000Yeah, okay, there's graffiti where it says ice equals KKK, and I'm pretty sure everybody knows exactly what this is.
00:08:07.000The temperature in this country has been slowly coming to a boil, and Hopefully it does not get worse than this, but considering the Tesla attacks, we have this story from the AP.
00:08:18.000A fire that damaged the entryway to the New Mexico Republican Party headquarters in Albuquerque is being investigated as arson.
00:08:23.000No suspects have been named in the Sunday morning blaze, but that's under investigation by local authorities, the FBI, and the ATF.
00:08:30.000Incendiary materials were found on the scene, according to an ATF spokesperson.
00:08:35.000Spray paint on the side of the building read ICE equals KKK, said Lieutenant Jason Fayor.
00:08:41.000With Albuquerque Fire Rescue, Fayer said federal officials were taking over the arson investigation.
00:08:47.000During a Monday press conference in front of the burned entryway, which was covered with plywood and had two burned doors propped against it, Republican leaders described the fire as a deliberate attack.
00:08:56.000They sought to link the blaze to an ongoing crime crisis in New Mexico, including a shooting earlier this month in Las Cruces that left three people dead.
00:09:03.000Republican lawmakers have recently urged Democratic Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham to exercise her authority to bring the legislators back to the Capitol to seek solutions to the violence.
00:09:21.000And it's interesting that for four years you had Democrats freaking out about January 6th because that was actually the only thing they could point to.
00:09:28.000And every time you have leftists going after Republicans, it's months and months of stuff.
00:09:33.000You can hardly even count how many incidents there are.
00:09:37.000Also, the average person just doesn't hear about it.
00:09:41.000They just don't hear about this stuff.
00:09:43.000Why? Because it just doesn't show up on, you know, CNN and ABC and CBS and PBS.
00:09:52.000There's one thing I'll note on this, and I've been following what's going on with the Tesla attacks, that there's only one prominent Democrat, I think maybe only one Democrat, full stop, who's spoken out against that, and that's Ro Khanna.
00:10:19.000Why are they so terrified in condemning it?
00:10:22.000And I mean, Pelosi, if someone like that, we remember what happened in Portland.
00:10:28.000Stopped the National Guard from going in, even Trump sent her in, so she has a record there.
00:10:36.000But the other thing, if I can zoom out for one moment on this, is I remember in the heady days of January 2025 when I was told Woke is dead.
00:10:45.000I was told that this election means that Woke has finally been defeated and Trump had all these executive orders to anti-Woke, but we're seeing what I remember in 2020 as the extreme So, the woke being dead thing is a reference to Trump gutting it institutionally,
00:11:12.000Meaning these institutions should not be implementing DEI policies and things like this.
00:11:15.000Yes. And private corporations abandoning this stuff.
00:11:19.000But in terms of what they're doing amongst themselves and how they react to it, at the administrative level, they are still attacking through lawfare.
00:11:27.000And in the street level, they are still engaged in violence.
00:11:29.000Yes. So what I see here is that things like Trump won the war on DEI.
00:11:35.000He won the war on some of these other specific topics.
00:11:47.000I mean, even at the policy level, I don't even necessarily know if you could say that he defeated them because a lot of it is these companies are just shifting definitions.
00:11:55.000They're making their corporate structure around these types of policies even more opaque and hard to define.
00:12:01.000So it gets reimagined as bridge rather than DEI, things like that.
00:12:05.000But stuff like this, it's kind of analogous to what's going on in Hollywood.
00:12:55.000It's going to get worse, especially as the weather gets nicer and it's easier for people to go outside.
00:13:02.000Yeah, and they didn't need to do all the riots during Biden because they were getting what they wanted.
00:13:06.000But I do think it's important to remember that even though we are going to see this kind of violence and even though we see it with this GOP headquarters and all of the Teslas and the Tesla dealerships and all of the boomers going around dancing and thinking that they're actually getting something done, it's still a relatively small amount of people.
00:13:21.000And these are the small amount of people that make a huge difference.
00:13:36.000Well, if you want to go dance around in front of Tesla or protest, you know, protest, but don't be destroying people's property and don't be, you know, going in and disrupting all of the business.
00:13:46.000Make your point in a politically protest-y type of way, as is traditionally done.
00:13:51.000What was worse, that or the dancing nurses during COVID?
00:13:59.000The doctors were almost worse than the nurses, too.
00:14:02.000Yeah, there were videos of, there were some black women who were filming, and they were like, is this why I can't get any service right now?
00:14:10.000And they were filming people producing a dance.
00:14:14.000So it's like, people who actually need help at a hospital were looking at nurses staging a dance instead of doing their jobs.
00:14:23.000Disgusting. And then musicians who should have been playing shows where people could actually dance are shut down because they weren't allowed to perform.
00:14:29.000But that's okay, because they were playing Imagine, each of them, in a remote location.
00:14:34.000I mean, that's the real reason people should be mad at Gal Gadot.
00:14:36.000Yeah, I mean, I found that offensive, the Imagine from your beautiful backyard.
00:14:58.000Because we're trying to, you know, send love or whatever.
00:15:02.000And what they were actually doing was trying to whitewash their own reputation, band wash, artist wash their reputation, using people like Lady Gaga and everything to, I mean, it's a bit of a tangential point.
00:15:20.000They were streaming their little concerts like--The ultimate bed in.
00:15:22.000I mean, that should have been, you know, that should have been the thing.
00:15:25.000It's like an homage to Lennon and Yoko.
00:15:28.000I've come to America and I don't think it's quite reconciled itself with what happened From 2020, through the pandemic, through BLM, all the people killed in that period, all the damage done.
00:15:41.000It just, I feel like it's being, it's been completely ignored and memory hauled by liberal types.
00:15:47.000And I think even conservatives, it's like, we don't want to go back there.
00:16:29.000Pulling kids out of school was not a good thing.
00:16:31.000Everyone's like, yeah, like welcome to four years ago.
00:16:34.000Arguably, the only people who they'd want to hear, like your reader specifically, the only people they would want to hear that from are people who don't write from the post-millennial.
00:16:42.000They'll want to hear it from people who took the opposing perspective back in 2020.
00:16:46.000They don't want to hear it from people who always knew.
00:16:48.000They want to hear it from people who wouldn't admit it before and need to.
00:16:51.000Yeah, wait for Gavin's next podcast episode.
00:16:54.000When the New York Times finally ran that story, everyone said, how dare you?
00:17:35.000Yeah. Well, I mean, you lock people in their homes for several months, then give them a George Floyd, and anything that can be a catalyst or a spark for their anger that already exists.
00:17:44.000It's also weird because to me, I was always kind of led to believe growing up, if you're not politically inclined, you're led to believe that the right is the violent side.
00:17:53.000Right. Mainly because of stuff in the 90s.
00:18:09.000Oklahoma City bombing in 93. So there's a movie coming out about it.
00:18:16.000Yeah, which is where, you know, between that and other things that happened in America in the 90s, the right gets that idea of being politically more violent.
00:18:26.000He's the one who wrote that manifesto on technology, right?
00:18:37.000Who? Let's jump to this next story from Fortune.
00:19:06.000Elon Musk calls for the arrest of those he claims are funding anti-Tesla protests.
00:19:12.000I appreciate Fortune for actually getting it right, because even though Elon Musk said those funding it, almost every outlet reported he was calling for the organizers to be arrested.
00:19:23.000Because Elon has accused Soros and Reid Hoffman, among others, of indirectly funding these protests.
00:19:31.000They say an emboldened Elon Musk is ratcheting up pressure on the anti-Tesla demonstrations.
00:19:35.000They say since Sunday, on Sunday, Musk, whose company is expected to report on Wednesday its worst quarterly car sales, thanks fortune, did not seem satisfied with leaving it there.
00:19:44.000He argued going after low-level perps is the law enforcement equivalent of whack-a-mole.
00:19:50.000Lock one up for criminal for 20 years, another will pop up.
00:19:53.000In his view, they are little more than pawns acting at the behest of Tesla CEO's wealthy Democratic opponents.
00:19:58.000They say arresting their puppets and paid foot soldiers won't stop there.
00:20:02.000It's time to arrest those funding the attacks.
00:20:04.000Former Wall Street Journal reporter Asrat Nomani fed these suspicions this weekend when she claimed to have found evidence of at least two dozen largely tax exempt organizations, all supposedly aligned with the Democratic Party, were compensating protesters for their time.
00:20:18.000Her allegations were picked up by the Trump friendly outlets Fox News and Zero Hedge as evidence the protests are not genuine, but astroturf.
00:20:24.000So the important thing here is, they mentioned LinkedIn co-founder forced to deny Musk's claim of involvement, but Elon said, I consider this to be worrying escalation.
00:21:01.000Yeah. Well, I mean, if it's true that they're funding these protests which turn violent or inspire violence, drum this sentiment up, that's terrifying all the same.
00:21:11.000And I'm not saying Elon Musk's wrong to say go after people that are funding these protests or anything like that.
00:21:15.000The challenge is, these protests are not the same as the terror attacks.
00:21:22.000If somebody wants to provide resources so people can protest, what are you going to do about it?
00:21:27.000Absolutely. And then if people, after the fact, engage in terror because the sentiment was built up by these protests, we know what the Democrat megadonors are wanting to do, should it be the case.
00:22:16.000Presumably, you do think it's a good idea to stop funding the attacks and violence.
00:22:21.000That's not an escalation to arrest those people.
00:22:23.000But I agree, it seems that using them interchangeably, as he goes on to say, Reid will have many layers between himself and the organizations attacking me.
00:22:31.000But the probability is 100% that Reid is funding them.
00:22:34.000So if these organizations are attacking him, and he is saying, funding the attacks, I don't know if he thinks that the terror attacks are being funded by somebody, because he's never expressed that.
00:22:46.000He's saying outright the attacks in general, I think he's using them interchangeably.
00:22:49.000Yes. And that's a problem too because that's something that people who are more in line with their cause are going to seize on and say that it's a free speech issue and they're going to say that he's trying to shut down dissenting opinions when what he's actually trying to say is that he wants the violence to stop.
00:23:41.000One thing that might be the case is that there's a link between USAID and something, and I don't have any conclusive evidence of that.
00:23:50.000However, USAID were funding the Tides Foundation, which is a foundation that Soros has also founded, that to the tune of $27 million was giving money to the Black Lives Matter.
00:24:02.000So there is a history there of funding.
00:24:05.000Tides also was funding some of the anti-Israel stuff.
00:24:38.000I guess it would be interesting to see, you know, It's easy to say George Soros funds everything, but you actually want to see, like, how exactly is the Open Societies Foundation funding them?
00:24:47.000So what I'd ask of Elon, what I want to know is how, you know, he's alleging that Reid Hoffman is funding them.
00:24:55.000He says that it eventually goes 100% it traces all the way back to Reid Hoffman, but let's see that line, like, expose that line, because then it's clear.
00:25:03.000Otherwise it's all quite nebulous and it's even opaque, counter by Musk.
00:25:11.000I mean, I think that type of language is a problem right now, right?
00:25:13.000When you make claims without the ability to actually prove that that's what's going on, then it just falls in line with political rhetoric rather than actually trying to root out a problem that's going on, and people are going to take that as being politically biased to one side.
00:25:26.000I mean, why not also arrest the people doing the violence?
00:25:53.000If it was a Model S, because they flatten and they stick out, when you walk up and the car's open, they all just come out and the windows drop a little bit.
00:27:21.000Yeah. They shut that down at the end of last week, I think.
00:27:25.000One of the craziest things about living in one of these bigger cities is you can realize just how much people can get accustomed to when people talk about like, oh, my car only got broken into twice last year.
00:27:34.000And you're like, imagine this, dude, there's a place you can live where that just doesn't happen at all.
00:27:54.000It's been gone for a long time, but like...
00:27:56.000Even before the political animosity in the last 10 years, I mean, 20, 30 years of the media giving you the boogeyman of criminals and serial killers and stuff like that, high trust society has gone a long time.
00:28:08.000But you pretty much, I mean, now you're at a point where you figure your neighbors might attack you.
00:28:13.000Yeah. Your neighbors might come shoot your dog.
00:28:15.000Your neighbors might like yell at your kids.
00:28:17.000I think they should just ban, there should be no political signs in your driveway.
00:28:21.000For the good of society, no political signs.
00:29:28.000You know, Allison was over by the snacks and I walked over to the snacks and she's looking at Cheez-Its or whatever and crackers and I was like, let's just get a thing of ice cream, screw it.
00:29:36.000I walk up to the fridge and door's locked.
00:29:39.000Locked. Could not even take ice cream, it was locked.
00:29:49.000I shouldn't be eating ice cream anyway.
00:29:51.000But also, it's hard to find somebody in the store.
00:29:54.000So we simultaneously have a decline in trust in our society.
00:29:58.000And all of these automated things coming into place that only work in a high-trust society, like not that many people at CVS because it's all self-checkout, or the grocery store, you know, or like different AI type of components, like the AI drivers, the Waymo, and all of this stuff.
00:30:14.000That works in a high-trust society, and in a low-trust society, it's just kind of terrifying to get into.
00:30:20.000Okay, so what would you say the reasons that it's become a low-trust?
00:30:23.000Because I've seen this coming to your wonderful country over the last two decades, and I've seen the change.
00:30:29.000I think of New York, I think of San Francisco where I've had similar experiences to you guys.
00:30:33.000But in Europe and particularly in Britain...
00:30:36.000What's happened is mass migration is the effect, and it's through mass migration that we're seeing an increase in violence, particularly in cities.
00:30:43.000We're seeing social cohesion break down and we're seeing riots, counter riots.
00:30:47.000I mean, I could talk about the British-Pakistani grooming gangs which have inspired that, and it's really mass migration.
00:30:54.000Is that the same story here in America?
00:30:59.000I think it's more high crime, no prosecutions, and high limits on what it takes to get a felony.
00:31:04.000So if it costs If somebody has to steal $900 worth of stuff to get a felony, people just put a bunch of stuff in a garbage bag and walk out.
00:31:13.000And we've seen endless videos of this at all of these stores.
00:31:16.000If there's no consequence for their actions, the store has to do what they have to do to try and protect their merchandise.
00:31:23.000And what's hilarious is then they have found a way to then make this an argument about capitalism, where they say it's actually capitalism's fault that stores are locking up all their merchandise and say that it's disproportionately We're good to
00:31:58.000go. There's no easy avenue for police to intervene in suspected prostitution, because loitering is perfectly legal.
00:32:04.000Or broken windows, or turnstile jumping.
00:34:47.000When they go on dimension, Another person is attacked keep moments later the passenger of the green car.
00:34:52.000Oh, actually, I don't think I actually have that in the video in the full report They they mention these two women are not taking gun Self-defense classes.
00:35:02.000Yeah, the next time some guy tries pulling something like that off.
00:35:05.000They're gonna get they're gonna get shot and Depending on where they live They're gonna be they're gonna run their own risk because it's so hard to know whether you're actually gonna get in trouble for using your weapon I guess they'll have to figure out what the law is, too.
00:35:17.000I think that's going to be after the fact.
00:35:19.000I mean, look, a 61-year-old woman getting punched in the face?
00:36:36.000I mean, we talked about this a little bit earlier.
00:36:38.0002020 was mass rioting, which is over months.
00:36:44.000And then you had it culminate with the autonomous zones.
00:36:48.000But those were leftists against government.
00:36:52.000I'm wondering if, and you know, I don't know Libby and Brett if you've seen anything, what we're seeing now is random attacks on people for political purposes if they can be identified.
00:37:03.000Meaning the Tesla car itself is enough identification for these attacks to escalate on these individuals.
00:37:43.000They were just going after any business that they felt like tearing down at the time, which is why businesses that wanted to survive had to put signs up in their windows.
00:37:50.000to please, please, please leave me alone.
00:37:52.000But at that same time, they were going up to random people and asking them to raise their fist in the air to force compliance on people because it was a form of power.
00:38:02.000Yeah, there was definitely, in terms of like the attacks on Tess Tesla cars, not just individuals, but Tesla cars.
00:38:08.000We did see, again in 2020, we saw the attacks on statues, right?
00:38:12.000People were tearing down George Washington statues.
00:38:15.000People were so stupid that they were tearing down statues of abolitionists saying, you know, that they were racist.
00:38:25.000They would still be considered racist by today's standards.
00:38:28.000The reason why I'm asking this is I'm curious, you know, Wynton, your perspective on where this country goes You know, obviously with the, you know, Trump being criminally charged, but now he wins.
00:38:39.000Now the Democrats are saying what he's doing is unconstitutional.
00:38:42.000Now we have Elon, who's working with Trump, and people are just either, there's terror attacks against dealerships, they're physically attacking people.
00:38:49.000Do you see a scenario where things are to chill out, maybe, or what do you think?
00:38:55.000I think that the way it's heading is, and I note what I said earlier about no Democrats really calling this out, is that we might end up that something really awful happens.
00:39:06.000God forbid, I don't want it, but it would take something really awful, it seems, for Democrats to finally Speak out against what's going out and and even then to be honest, I'm not sure it would there's not gonna change the rhetoric And there's plenty of what happened in 2020 that they didn't speak out even when terrible evils were happening No,
00:39:26.000they put websites to bail people out in their bios is what they did But Tim is your question because you you think that this is it we're in a particularly bad place Is this why you're pushing me here?
00:39:39.000Well, I'm curious and I think this is a unique This is really different this time.
00:39:43.000The reason I wanted to ask before I gave my thoughts is I don't want to influence what your thoughts on this particular moment may be.
00:39:49.000Maybe, you know, you'd say, look, I've seen stuff like this and, you know, people are going to forget about Tesla or something like that.
00:39:55.000But I actually argued this is substantially worse in terms of the political escalation than we saw in 2020.
00:40:03.000And that's because we had this conversation a week or two ago.
00:40:38.000You had Owen Schroyer brought out of his house with his hands up and they told him to take his shirt off because the police are pointing guns at him and cops don't know what's going on.
00:40:46.000Then at the highest level, of course, you have the administrative attacks, attempts to arrest and jail Trump and his people.
00:40:51.000But now that he won, that is being stopped by Trump at the highest level.
00:40:55.000Of course, we have a counter with Crispy Gnome, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino.
00:41:00.000But in 2020 with the riots, it was random rage.
00:41:04.000People were mad about Trump, they're mad about lockdowns, they're mad about George Floyd, and they were going out and attacking random things.
00:41:12.000They burned down buildings, they attacked random people.
00:41:15.000That is very, very bad in terms of the sheer violence, but a riot may not go anywhere, right?
00:41:21.000The riots happened, I think, largely because of COVID lockdowns built up a lot of rage.
00:41:25.000The George Floyd story was the spark that gave people the excuse to go out and be angry.
00:41:30.000And they weren't overtly targeting people, though.
00:41:32.000There was one guy in Portland who got shot twice in the chest, and it was violent with the Chazz Chop, where they actually shot and murdered people, unloaded their rifles on some teenagers in an SUV.
00:41:42.000Crazy. What we're seeing now, though, in terms of political escalation is random street-level terror attacks, mid-level terror attacks in the digital space, bleeding into the physical space with swattings, mid-level terror attacks with firebombs and mass shootings on dealerships.
00:42:00.000This seems to me like a worrying escalation where, what happens when a leftist gets run over?
00:42:29.000Is part of this because I think a lot of this has to do with we live in a sick society, and there's a lot of unbelievably emotionally dysregulated people who don't know how to control themselves and who suffer because they have been fed these lines about political opposition being evil.
00:42:44.000But I wonder if some of it has to do with the fact that there's just this directionless feel to the Democrat Party now, where they don't have anybody to coalesce around, they don't have any actual hope for their message.
00:42:59.000Because they don't have anybody that's giving them a message that they feel they can confidently take into the next election cycle to try and change the things that they, at least in their minds, feel are wrong.
00:43:41.000We had one of the most shocking things I've seen was when on The Daily Show, Jordan Klepper showed terror attacks.
00:43:48.000One of the attacks on Tesla in Vegas was a man with a rifle shooting into the building, trying to take out security cameras, then shooting wildly into a bunch of cars, graffiting up the building, and then setting fire to a bunch of the vehicles.
00:44:02.000And when he showed this, the audience cheered for it.
00:44:05.000He even was shocked and said, wow, I guess you guys like petty acts of domestic terrorism.
00:44:09.000Something very similar on Stephen Colbert at the same time, by the way, where he made a joke like, don't attack Teslas!
00:44:18.000Sorry, it's Kimmel, forgive me, it was Kimmel.
00:44:21.000But Colbert did also do something similar where he said he deserves, he said someone stole the tires off a vehicle, but he says, I don't attack the, I don't condemn the attacks, but I appreciate your tireless efforts and wins a pun award.
00:44:38.000He said that I think it's wrong to attack Teslas and this comes from the bottom of my CBS legal department.
00:44:46.000Implying he doesn't actually, and they're cheering for these things.
00:44:52.000We are at a time in this country where in public people are cheering for terror attacks against anyone perceived to be right-wing.
00:45:01.000Even if you're just driving a Tesla, which you probably bought well before Trump or Elon had anything to do with government.
00:45:06.000Well, you know, we have DHS and ICE doing this thing where they're scouring people's social media to determine if they are immigrants who advocate for violence or who are opposed to American values or whatever the criteria is.
00:45:22.000I wonder if they'll start doing that for the Tesla people and just start like arresting anti-Tesla people based on their social media posts.
00:45:30.000And that will end up sparking concern from them in the same way, because they're going to say that you're being a fascist by arresting them.
00:45:36.000Well, it is concerning to arrest someone based on a social media post alone, as we've seen in the UK.
00:45:42.000But they have to start arresting and having real justice put on these people doing these attacks, because that is what will create In a lot of cases the charges were eventually dropped.
00:46:11.000I don't think it ends up stopping anybody.
00:46:13.000I think so many of these people are so broken and so upset and they feel so hopeless because of all of the rhetoric that they're spewed and fed every single day that they're acting so irrationally that even a rational deterrent won't work on an irrational person.
00:46:45.000And California named a health care bill after him.
00:46:48.000Yeah, it's like the Luigi Mangione Health Care Act.
00:46:52.000And it's penalties on if you delay, deny, or depose or whatever.
00:46:57.000Yeah, it's penalties on healthcare companies that don't do what Luigi Mangione wants them to do.
00:47:03.000Let me jump to this next tweet here we have from Christine Noem, Secretary of DHS, Department of Homeland Security.
00:47:11.000I cannot show you the video, my friends.
00:47:15.000It is a man calling for people to murder ICE agents.
00:47:19.000And Christine Noem responds, if you threaten or attempt to harm a law enforcement officer, we will find you and prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law.
00:48:06.000I believe it is a federal criminal offense what he said.
00:48:11.000And to be a federal it would have offense it would have to be proved that it would directly lead to Actual attacks happening, which is that the brand what's the test that it's so it's imminent harm imminent harm So you'd have to prove him in harmony This is very similar to a lot of the stuff we had going on in the UK a lot of people arrested for long periods of time I mean years some of them now some of them were just racist memes and reposting racist memes and a bit of racism here and there don't disgusting things that were said but you know Clearly not
00:48:43.000But then there's some people who were arrested for planning online, on using Facebook to plan where to do certain attacks on asylum hotels, and those people were arrested.
00:48:54.000So you're saying that this seems to me To you, to be a felony, but wouldn't you have to prove that it would directly lead to an attack?
00:49:05.000No, it turns out you don't have to do that, which is crazy, but based on precedent.
00:49:09.000Like, for example, Douglas Mackey was arrested and convicted for, what was it, like an election interference or something?
00:49:17.000That was fraud, that's different from threats of violence.
00:49:19.000Right, but there was no evidence that the DOJ could provide that showed that the meme he posted impacted anybody to do the thing.
00:49:27.000In regards to violence, though, the imminent harm is the standard.
00:49:33.000And so that's why usually, if you said something like, I think people should do this thing, isn't illegal.
00:49:40.000But if you say, at this time, go do this thing.
00:50:06.000Actually, actually, this is where it gets interesting in law.
00:50:10.000If it's an imminent threat where you said, I want you to go to this place, Jim's Bar, take the, you know, go pick up one of these things and then use it to do this thing to that guy.
00:50:20.000You've got a person, you've got a place, you're directing them to do it.
00:50:23.000In this regard, he is saying, if ICE agents show up at your house or stop you anywhere, do this thing with this thing.
00:51:00.000Because the initial videos that were released, I'll say it every time, when that story first came out, we all looked at the surveillance footage and said, that looks like a middle-aged guy.
00:51:08.000You can tell by his hands, the top of the face that you can see, it looks like he's got older skin.
00:51:16.000Older folks, their skin doesn't move as well in the cold.
00:51:21.000You'll notice they do like the moisture test after you pinch the skin and pull it.
00:51:24.000You can see pressure points on his hands.
00:51:26.000I assumed when we first saw that it was going to be a guy who was like in his late 40s or 50s.
00:51:31.000Then they put up a picture of this other guy, said he was a person of interest, and he's wearing a different coat with different eyebrows and a different backpack.
00:53:17.000He said something like the American people being too stupid to believe it or something.
00:53:20.000Exactly. It's just the way he said it didn't seem to be like the sort of thing an actual hitman would say then.
00:53:26.000So maybe, I don't know, but in that regard, It could be a hitman got away with killing a CEO and the government is like, we cannot have a story of a rogue hitman running around.
00:53:42.000The American public would panic and it could disrupt the economy in many ways if people are scared to go outside because there's a hitman running around or a murderer.
00:53:52.000The American public already, no one would be surprised to learn there's hitmen in the public.
00:55:02.000There were reports in the news that they feared terror attacks in small suburban towns.
00:55:07.000They said that the terror alert has gone up and the town that they're concerned about is this, you know, insert small Ohio town.
00:55:13.000And I'm thinking like, why would they target the middle of nowhere?
00:55:18.000On the news they were saying, the terrorists want to target rural areas.
00:55:23.000So that people in this country feel they cannot be safe anywhere.
00:55:26.000Most people think if you stay out of the cities, you'll be all right.
00:55:29.000Wow. So, with stuff like this, and what he's saying, when it's a regular guy who's a real estate agent calling for the murder of federal agents, it's particularly worrying because it's basically saying to us, there is a normal liberal worldview circulating amongst regular workers to engage in lethal force against their enemies.
00:55:51.000Yeah, there's another aspect of this which is curious to me is that the ICE agents are the villains here.
00:55:58.000And this can only be in the eyes of the progressive globalists who don't like borders.
00:56:04.000But the ICE villains are trying to get rid of violent criminal, violent murderous criminals to protect the borders.
00:56:11.000If you want a safe country, if you want a great America, you've got to have borders.
00:56:15.000And so it's curious to watch how villainized ICE agents are at this time.
00:56:22.000Indeed. You know, we had a liberal lawyer on who called them brownshirts.
00:56:26.000He said they're Gestapo, they're federal, you know.
00:56:51.000During the presidential debates through 2019 and 2020, all of the Democrat candidates were asked, would you change crossing the border from a criminal charge to a civil charge?
00:57:06.000Literally, Joe Biden says, surge the border.
00:57:08.000They come to the border, they enter the country outside of an official port of entry, illegally, and then as soon as they see an agent, they say, asylum!
00:57:20.000They put all these people into the system, gave them court dates, and then quietly dismissed all their court dates so they were de facto in the United States as second-class citizens.
00:57:31.000This is what Chuck Schumer wants, though, so that we can have, you know, depressed wages.
00:57:35.000Right. So when Donald Trump then says, we are going to arrest these people and kick them out, the left says, Trump is arresting legal migrants.
00:57:47.000This is the conundrum over the language.
00:57:49.000So now, you've got the issue of, but we need due process for these people who entered the country illegally through Biden's exploitation, and they're using it to empower their states.
00:57:59.000There is no reality where the actions taken by Donald Trump will ever be deemed legal, even if they're explicitly legal and under his constitutional authority, as many of these things are.
00:58:10.000Trump said, if you are transgender and exhibiting symptoms, you cannot serve in the military.
00:58:16.000However, if you are suffering gender dysphoria or transgender, and you exhibit no symptoms, you're fine.
00:58:25.000Everyone is created equal and all means all.
00:58:31.000That literally means she just issued an injunction stating, as someone on Twitter pointed out, paraplegic schizophrenics can now enlist in the military.
00:58:38.000Yeah, like gender dysphoria is in the DSM, yet a lot of people with bad eyesight can't get into the military.
00:58:44.000Because of this injunction, it is absurd that the president, who is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, is barred from choosing who serves him.
00:58:53.000So this is the point of where we're at in terms of what is legal and what's not legal.
00:58:58.000With the border thing, and forgive me if I sound like a libtard for one moment, but is there an argument to be made that these coming across and claiming asylum Because Biden had allowed it, they were following by the laws at the time.
00:59:18.000So in the United States, the president can issue executive orders.
00:59:23.000They're not laws, but he can direct executive agencies to behave in certain ways, which de facto can make or break laws.
00:59:29.000So if the United States Congress passes a bill saying, we are going to ban marijuana in every regard, I mean they basically did, but like, nothing, nothing, we're gonna arrest literally everybody.
00:59:42.000Donald Trump could say, ignore it, don't enforce it.
00:59:45.000He could instruct the AG not to prosecute.
00:59:48.000And so the law exists and should be enforced, but would that mean that people are I see, so that's what happened.
00:59:56.000Basically, because I got one for you, and I'm going to change your mind in two seconds.
01:00:01.000Joe Biden instructed CBP to transport children into sex slavery.
01:01:42.000He spoke with the head of the CBP union on camera, who stated, quote, I talked to the head of all the border guards down there, the head of the union.
01:01:49.000I asked him straight up, kids are coming over the border with numbers written on them, phone numbers and addresses.
01:02:04.000We are using American tax dollars to ship children into known prostitution and sweatshops.
01:02:10.000And when asked over and over again, like when I bring this up, the issue is clear.
01:02:16.000CBP agents were instructed at the highest level Savannah Hernandez did a lot of reporting on this at the border and uncovered the exact same thing.
01:03:09.000My understanding, I could be wrong, is this guy was illegally entered the country coming from Venezuela.
01:03:14.000It's typically implied, or I believe it's not absolute law, but you're supposed to apply for asylum in the first country of safe harbor or whatever, safe haven.
01:03:23.000And they all skip over all of these countries.
01:03:25.000Trump reinstituted that and said, that's what has to happen.
01:03:27.000You have to apply for asylum in the first safe country you get to.
01:03:31.000So when we're talking about Joe Biden letting these people in, we are speaking broadly of the sex traffickers, the drug traffickers, the gangs, the cartels, the criminals, and some, I think, who are fine people.
01:03:43.000The Democrats ignore all of the crime and say they're legal asylees.
01:03:47.000Well, because they change the they change, like you were saying, they change the definition of legal.
01:03:52.000So they add all of these sort of like sub legal categories, refugee, asylum seeker, temporary protected status, you know, unaccompanied minor without having any way to check any of the ages or where they're from or how they got there or anything.
01:04:07.000And so now you have Trump trying to revoke a lot of this stuff.
01:04:12.000Um, like revoke the temporary protected status, which is what like half a million people from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti and say like, you know, you're done.
01:04:22.000And the interesting thing about a lot of the people who come in on the temporary protected status program, and the refugee program is you don't have to be coming from The nation that has, you know, refugee-capable status.
01:04:35.000You can be living perfectly comfortably somewhere else, like you could be a Haitian who moved to Bolivia or whatever, and you're coming now from Bolivia with Haitian refugee status, even though you're basically just giving up whatever life you had constructed in Bolivia.
01:04:51.000Kind of like when the UN says anyone of Palestinian descent is a refugee, even if they've been, you know, in Jordan for like, 25, 30, 50 years.
01:05:02.000Or three generations, or back to 58, whatever.
01:05:04.000I have repeatedly called for all of these CBP agents to be imprisoned since this story came out.
01:05:12.000And if they're, you know, Dan Bongino stepped down from one of the biggest live shows, biggest podcast in the world to serve at the FBI, and people always say, Tim, get into politics.
01:05:23.000If Donald Trump said, Tim, we want you to work in the DOJ, With Dan and Cash, and your only job is to find law enforcement officers who facilitated crimes against children, who otherwise broke their oath, and bring charges, investigate. Done.
01:05:41.000Because there's a lot that I think, you know, and I'm kind of half kidding.
01:05:46.000I'm just saying that's how passionate I am about this stuff.
01:05:48.000But I think if as absurd a moment ever came up, If I was asked to go after the law enforcement officers who are facilitating children into sex trafficking because Biden told them to, I would do that in a heartbeat.
01:05:59.000How do they live with themselves, you know?
01:06:02.000That's an interesting question to ask, because you were talking about the lawyer who was talking about how he thinks that borders shouldn't exist at all.
01:06:09.000Anyways, what is it about modern day, whether it's Democrats or leftist politics, that makes it so easy to ignore stories like this?
01:07:02.000Now the same thing happened in the music industry when Oliver Antony, the musician behind the song Rich Man North of Richmond, he has a line in there, I wish politicians would care about minors instead of minors on some island somewhere.
01:07:42.000And then the Epstein story broke and everyone went, whoa.
01:07:45.000And today the big story was Virginia Giuffre posted that she has four days to live because she's in renal failure after a serious accident.
01:08:44.000I mean, we're joking about it, but actually this is a really good question that you ask, and it's really relevant to my country, Britain.
01:08:50.000You'll have heard of the British-Pakistani rape gangs, where over the course of decades, Tens of thousands of young British girls, predominantly white girls, were targeted by British Pakistani Muslim gangs because they were kafir.
01:09:15.000And these kids, there were cases where the kids When they reported on it happening to them, the kids themselves were arrested in one case because the young girl was drunk and disorderly.
01:09:29.000But can I say why this is relevant to what Tim's question is?
01:09:33.000Because after decades of that, after decades of the police doing fuck all about it, and last summer we had this horrible attack taken out by Axel Rudikibana on three young girls in Southport in the north of England, and The British a lot of British men were like we've had enough Tommy Robinson is an interview with Jordan Peterson said when he was a teenager his teenage cousin was Abused by one of these rape gangs.
01:10:03.000And actually, this is what you're seeing in Britain is for how many decades can you go after our daughters before and not do anything before we respond?
01:10:11.000You need to feel like full invincible.
01:10:13.000I don't know if you guys watch that show, but full invincible on these guys.
01:10:16.000I was gonna say I fear a full V for Vendetta, where the scene is the little girl wearing the mask is skipping down the street and the finger man shoots her and then all the people from the town show up with crowbars and baseball bats.
01:10:28.000Well, you remember you mentioned earlier, like, is this Is there going to be an event that leads to that?
01:10:32.000I feel like information is so decentralized now and we're so disconnected as a society that there isn't one event like that that could do that the way it did in that movie.
01:10:41.000The reason why I ask that question is because the opening scene in Sound of Freedom, the opening, not scene, but I guess scene, is a man's children are told they could be movie stars, they could be models, and to bring them up so they could get a test screening.
01:10:57.000And the father brings them and they say, you have to wait outside.
01:11:55.000Just do a movie where you combine Captain America and Liam Neeson and his daughter gets taken again.
01:12:00.000Have you been following what's going on with the show Adolescence on Netflix and how it's talking about knife crime and incel culture and toxic masculinity amongst kids who are only 13 years old?
01:12:13.000I have not seen the show itself, but this is all over the papers.
01:12:17.000A lot of right-wingers are upset because they The show depicts it as a young white kid who's doing it and right-wingers are upset because they would say the violence is actually from other ethnic groups.
01:12:31.000The director said that he took inspiration from the violence that horrified him about specific knife crime incidents and then people made that a racial issue.
01:12:41.000The director says it's not that, but people make their...
01:13:03.000I'm not saying that the online social media isn't affecting boys, but it seems that it's affecting girls a lot worse.
01:13:09.000And examples of this would be the increase in suicide around young girls.
01:13:15.000JD Vance has been talking a lot about censorship and worried about how British companies are going to be censoring Americans.
01:13:22.000And that goes back to this online safety bill, which was inspired by the suicide of a young girl called Molly Adams.
01:13:31.000I think Molly Brand and she committed suicide and it led to it but so the suicide rates among young girls not only that politically women are becoming far more progressive and they're going more extreme if you look at the the data of how the election through 2024 it seemed that women were turning harder to the left but the media and the liberal media painted it as men becoming more aggressive so what they're more politically extreme What they're doing right now is they just made adolescence available to all high schools throughout all
01:14:01.000of the UK, per the Prime Minister, because they want to make sure that as many people can see it as possible, because they're painting the boys in the country as the problem.
01:14:10.000And the other thing that was interesting is that not just that, but now they're teaching anti-misogyny classes to boys.
01:15:31.000Over time, the river, the water flow, there's more friction on one side than the other, causing the water to erode faster, creating a curve.
01:16:05.000Exactly. Now, for a lot of them, it's Andrew Tate.
01:16:09.000It doesn't need to be Andrew Tate, but He's a guy who says, you can be strong, rich, and successful like me, and there's a lot of guys who just wish they had the power to look into a camera and say, go F yourself, I got F you money.
01:16:33.000There should be a way to offer masculinity outside of the mold of politics, and outside of the mold of, you know, hating women and using them like trash.
01:16:43.000We had it, and they destroyed him, and it's Jordan.
01:16:51.000And they destroyed him, and what, totally predictable, I mean, I'm not sure they fully destroyed him, but By trying to destroy him, they push these kids to people like Andrew Tate, who, in my opinion, is deplorable.
01:17:02.000But I do think that Jordan, Dr. Peterson, only goes so far.
01:17:07.000You know, he had that famous tweet that went viral where he said, there are cathedrals everywhere for those with eyes to see, and it was an Evian water bottle.
01:17:15.000Look, Dr. Peterson has a bunch of, has tremendous insights, and for a lot of young men, when he said, clean your room!
01:17:22.000Find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it!
01:17:33.000But I'd still rather have Jordan Peterson than Andrew Tate.
01:17:36.000Of course, but what do you think a young man sees?
01:17:38.000He sees the goofy guy being made fun of with a good message, and then he sees Andrew Tate, who's a world champion kickboxer, who's worth 50 plus million or however much million dollars, he's got a bunch of sports cars, and he talks about how he can have any woman he wants and he'll do whatever he says.
01:17:53.000There's a lot of really great examples of masculinity, though, in our in our popular culture right now.
01:17:58.000Matt Walsh is great and he has a lot of respect for his wife.
01:18:23.000A young man who's 14, 15 goes online, and they see bearded Matt Walsh with a good message, and they see him easily being mocked by the left.
01:21:01.000So we have, you know, deprived our young men of role models that they used to be able to have in literature and in like good films and things like this.
01:21:10.000And I think that there's this void and it's being replaced by, you know, someone as horrible as Andrew Tate, which is really a shame.
01:21:17.000But I think that it behooves the right not to celebrate people who suck and instead to Thank you.
01:21:31.000books read classics look at classic films listen to good music instead of trash you know all of this stuff like we need to teach our our young men and women this so that when they're aspiring to be someone they're not looking at like you know the the disgusting millionaire guy who like bangs body modified chicks and in
01:21:53.000Yeah. And maybe this is implicit in what you're both saying.
01:22:48.000Part of it is also like there's like 20, 30, 40 years of your entertainment culture degrading men as well.
01:22:55.000So I posted something recently about this very, very low budget show called Blue Ridge, where this dad, now he's divorced, but he wants to remarry the woman that he lost because he was in the service, he was in the militaries and special forces, and he was just away from his family.
01:23:16.000There's even a scene, and I'm pointing this out because like, There's a scene where a boy wants to take his teenage daughter out on a date, and he gives him the cold stare and makes the boy explain why he's right to take his daughter out on a date.
01:23:28.000And I said, as simplistic as that story is, it's rare now.
01:23:34.000Now, that's not a show that I really think that any Kids are going to watch, but the point is you grow up with stuff like that, right?
01:23:40.000You may have a family member who watches something like that, and there aren't a lot of great examples in popular culture of really, really good male role models that are not treated as buffoons.
01:23:52.000Where all the dads are buffoons and stupid, as opposed to being competent male role models who actually take care of their family.
01:24:00.000You know, when I was growing up, I had my dad, of course, who was a no-nonsense guy.
01:24:07.000And let me just say, maybe as an older man, he's calmed down a little bit.
01:24:13.000But he was probably one of those guys who got into bar fights often for fun.
01:24:19.000And so growing up with a dad who was very tough and strong and didn't take anything from anybody, that obviously rubs off on me to a certain degree.
01:24:27.000But also growing up, I know it may seem silly, but we had superheroes.
01:24:32.000And my favorite hero was always Batman.
01:24:34.000You know why Batman's the best superhero ever?
01:24:36.000Granted, they've made bad iterations of him.
01:24:38.000At least in the 90s show, he's a regular human.
01:25:16.000Yeah. You know, I like the X-Men and Spider-Man and all that stuff, but Batman was always like, you can just train.
01:25:22.000I absolutely love this scene in Justice League where they're interrogating a supervillain.
01:25:27.000And Superman's threatening him, the guy's laughing at him, and then Batman shows up and they're like, Bruce, we can't get him to talk or whatever.
01:25:33.000They use their first names in Justice League, right?
01:25:40.000And what I loved about that was, Batman is just a guy.
01:25:43.000But he could do things no other superhero could do.
01:25:46.000He trained himself to be the best, he built the best technology, and he put himself above all of the other superheroes.
01:25:52.000It's a great character, it's a great inspiration, because It was just someone writing a story, to be honest.
01:25:57.000But the story was that, and this is widely believed in comic book lore, Batman can defeat literally any, as it goes, Batman will defeat any supervillain or hero given enough preparation.
01:27:13.000In movies, we went away from that at our peril.
01:27:18.000And I think that going back to those great stories, you said it earlier, reading great books, it's not just the act of the book, it's because the example in those stories, these archetypal things, there's a reason why these biblical stories still resonate with us.
01:27:32.000And that's where the ultimate archetypal stories are.
01:28:34.000It was a scrawny young man with a myriad of ailments who kept trying to enlist to join the war front, to be combat in World War II, to ship out.
01:28:46.000And they kept rejecting him because he was scrawny, frail, flat-footed, sickly, asthmatic.
01:28:52.000But his character was so good, and he persevered, that they had a project, the Super Soldier Project, and one of the doctors saw in him nobility and honor.
01:29:04.000Jack Nicholson, or I'm sorry, Tommy Lee, says, we don't need scrawny, we need strong!
01:29:09.000And he pulls the grenade and throws it, it's a dummy, and all the guys jump away and he jumps on it.
01:29:14.000And what that was saying was that You might be weak, you might not have the strength, you might be sick, but a noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
01:30:22.000Yes. But the point was the movies were so good, people wanted to see Endgame.
01:30:26.000So when they announced they were doing this movie, people went and saw it.
01:30:28.000And then they got the inverse message.
01:30:30.000Haha, girl power sells, and Captain America doesn't, when in fact it's all the way around.
01:30:34.000It's actually proven not to be true, because they haven't even advertised any of the women from the Marvels for the upcoming Doomsday, so...
01:30:41.000I do want to at least jump to this one story before we get into Super Chat, so we're pushing it.
01:31:01.000I think the biggest mistake of the last eight years is we somehow fail to give credibility to Donald Trump's whims and his impulses, but we know it's true.
01:31:09.000And January 6th was a perfect example.
01:31:10.000If he says that he's not ruling it out, he's not ruling it out, and we should consider it a constitutional threat.
01:32:14.000All of the machinations of how it would have to happen would involve, like, some sort of J.D. Vance running, winning, and stepping down, and just on the basics of that alone.
01:32:54.000I don't think it's I don't think that's going to be the jam.
01:32:57.000This is why your your liberal aunt hates you because they I'm serious.
01:33:02.000I'm seriously we talked earlier about people Blocking off Tesla drivers and cutting them off and pulling them out of cars and hitting them.
01:33:10.000It's these types of comments that absolutely fill their minds with the most fantastical worst case scenario they've ever heard.
01:33:20.000And when he says stuff like this, it sets up especially the politically uninformed, the ones who only see headlines, the ones who don't look into it, who haven't paid attention to when people say outlandish things to change the news cycle.
01:33:34.000It would actually make him more likable to people if they were like, look, he's kind of scummy.
01:33:38.000He's trying to change the news cycle, but he's not doing it right.
01:33:41.000on purpose, but he's not doing it to actually seek a third term.
01:33:44.000That's actually more politically intelligent and diabolical, but that's not what they're going to take from this.
01:33:49.000They're going to take that they think he's a fascist dictator, and it's going to ruin your Christmas.
01:33:54.000It's going to ruin your Fourth of July.
01:33:56.000Well, it's not going to ruin my Easter because liberals don't celebrate that.
01:33:58.000Exactly. What if it's all just ironic support because we're sick of the left?
01:34:02.000So, you know, during the holidays when the family's like, he says he's going to run for a third term and we don't really want him to, but we're like, good, I hope he wins.
01:34:09.000And we just, you know, You know, ingest or ironically support it.
01:34:12.000And then we find like 20 years later, Robo Trump is still president.
01:34:15.000Yeah. The one thing I keep the person I keep thinking of when they talk about the Trump third term is Christine Quinn, who was the head of the city council when Michael Bloomberg determined that he wanted to run for a third term.
01:34:26.000And she backed his run for a third term.
01:34:28.000And that was the end of her political career.
01:34:30.000And I think that there are a lot of people who would not back Trump's third term, whether they were in favor of it or not, because that would be the end of their political careers.
01:35:15.000It was proposed in the 70s, and then it was like, you know, so women could have equal rights across the country, because apparently all the laws that said we had equal rights across the country were not valid somehow.
01:35:26.000So it had to go get ratified by all the states, and it didn't get ratified by enough states in enough time, and so it was void, and the Supreme Court said, that's void, you can't keep voting on that.
01:35:39.000Well, it did get enough votes, After the deadline.
01:35:44.000So the ERA, let me pull this one up, states Article 1, equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state on account of sex.
01:35:57.000The Congress shall have the power to enforce by appropriate legislation the provisions of this article.
01:36:01.000Section 3, the amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.
01:36:04.000Biden says the Equal Rights Amendment is law.
01:36:11.000And all the women who oppose trans and gender ideology were against this because Biden had already remade the definition of sex to mean that men who say they are women are women.
01:36:25.000So you already had a lot of women opposed to the ERA.
01:36:30.000Who were not supporting it after it got enough votes after the deadline.
01:36:38.000But then if I can just on this question, one thing I noticed about Trump is that he'll say a lot to try and push the conversation and then it's out of the deal stuff, right?
01:36:50.000He'll say the overplay, he'll say a ridiculous thing and he ends up getting something and Uh, uh, that actually is great on the, along the way.
01:36:58.000Two recent examples will be Ga, Trump, Mara Gaza.
01:37:02.000He said that America is going to take over, which by the way, his base don't want anything to do with another president.
01:38:39.000Well, they don't know anything about our government.
01:38:42.000That might be the case, but I think what a lot of had happened is a lot of people will have seen Signal Gate and been like, oh, America really don't really want to get involved.
01:38:52.000They're really, you know, I think Russia and China and the adversaries of America will see that and be like, this is a China will be like, this is a really good time to invade Taiwan.
01:39:02.000Do you mean the messages of Signal Gate?
01:39:06.000Yeah, but but so my arguments initially I'm not entirely convinced now, but I wouldn't be surprised if they brought Goldberg into that chat on purpose, because he would be tricked into espousing their talking points, which it really does seem like is what he did.
01:39:23.000When you read these chats, I said, there's no shorthand.
01:39:27.000And text groups usually have more messages in this in short and not a perfect scripted yes, no, yes, no.
01:39:34.000Why would they be having this this kind of talk two hours before the strikes?
01:39:37.000Why wouldn't they be flying to DC and having a discussion in a secure conference room or the SCIF to discuss these attacks going over logistics?
01:39:45.000For what purpose would that chat even exist?
01:39:48.000Not to mention there was no classified information in it.
01:39:51.000Save the argument that launch times may be classified, I don't think they actually cared all that much.
01:39:58.000I don't know if the probability dictates that they intentionally brought Goldberg in, but, you know, because they wanted to trick him.
01:40:06.000But the message that came out, J.D. Vance, this is not aligned with Donald Trump's message, the American people don't even know who the Houthis are.
01:40:13.000I could not have dreamed up a better statement to the American people.
01:40:17.000Yes, a very good statement to the American people, but it's not them that is the problem.
01:40:23.000It's what Trump and his team care about.
01:40:25.000Of course it is, but the message it sends to the adversaries of America, and I appreciate this is an America First, and I also appreciate very much the message within the signal.
01:40:35.000To address what you said about Russia and China, Trump campaigned on this.
01:40:40.000So Russia and China should already know.
01:41:29.000Pete Hegseth, I think it was Hegseth, who said in the messages, we have to do it, we're the only ones who can do it, we just need them to pay us for it.
01:41:40.000I think one of the reasons they're hammering so hard on Signal Gate, the scandal, is because they don't want Trump to get the PR narrative out about the messages that were sent.
01:41:49.000If the story was the context of the messages, it's a great story for Trump.
01:41:53.000A journalist reports on the deliberations, deep and thoughtful.
01:42:31.000How do we how do we get the message away that we look reluctant and we don't really want to do it to the American people who majority of them do not want war?
01:42:51.000A couple of days after that story, when Trump was in the scandal over all the activists and people complaining about the military strikes, it shifted to this evil journalist.
01:43:00.000leaked information on the president to make him look bad.
01:43:48.000The other thing that Signal Gate distracted from is Trump was in the thick of it with the judges over his deportations of Trinidad and Tobago.
01:43:56.000The reason why he wants to get the PR off those, they fundraise off it.
01:44:00.000The media runs these stories about deportation.
01:44:03.000Trump has to then deal with all these legal battles where they're raising tons of money.
01:44:07.000I gotta say, Signal Gate was a great story for Trump in so many ways.
01:46:22.000Because they're going to, every day, see me wearing the exact same thing, and it'll be normal, and they're actually going to say, Dad, or she's going to say, how come people wear different clothes all the time?
01:46:32.000And I'm going to say, because they haven't found their identity yet.
01:46:35.000And they're constantly trying to find ways to stand out.
01:48:53.000It was that she was paying aides with money that was supposed to be for aides from a different region or something, or a different country.
01:49:00.000Even if it was real, the current sitting prime minister, not president, prime minister of France, whose name I think is Bayrou, I've forgotten exactly, Had very similar charges and he did not get the same sort of punishment.
01:49:14.000So there's a different Double he was found guilty, but not Not barred not barred and and so there's definitely a double standard.
01:49:24.000She is a big threat to Europe because she is anti-eu I would note and it's important to know she is a national socialist and She's described as far, right?
01:49:37.000the Parti Rassemblement National are very much National Socialist I saw this really great post on an anti-Trump subreddit.
01:49:51.000I think it's actually called anti-Trump.
01:49:58.000How do I explain to my, you know, relatives how bad Trump is?
01:50:03.000And one of the top, the top comment was, Trump is trying to destroy the liberal economic order that was created after World War II to create strong economic ties between nations that would prevent the world from falling into further chaos.
01:50:16.000He's trying to destroy this and dismantle it because he cares more about America, blah, blah, blah.
01:50:26.000This is a worldview that I prescribe to, which is that after the war, Karl Popper wrote his book, The Open Societies and Its Enemies, and George Soros was one of his students at the London School of Economics.
01:50:43.000What Popper did was he separated the world, he created this dichotomy, one which I believe is a false dichotomy, is that open societies you had democracy, freedom, liberty, and in closed societies not only did you have fascism and Nazism, which we all agree should be,
01:50:59.000are bad, but he also threw in nationalism and religion and so But more importantly, that book has the footnote of the tolerance paradox, which is that anyone who incites intolerance, that should be deemed criminal.
01:51:18.000And the reason why I think that this comment is right, because the populist movement we're seeing worldwide is a, I think, reaction to the post-World War II consensus.
01:51:30.000And a lot of the globalism, the Davos, this comes from that consensus, is that one of the lessons from World War II is nationalism is bad.
01:51:39.000Actually, in America, I don't think you learned that lesson, because it was America defeated Nazism because of your nationalism.
01:51:47.000In Europe, we learned a different story, which was that it was nationalism that caused But we ended up with anti-nationalism eventually and the destruction of our borders.
01:51:56.000Yes, and I do think that was born from this ideology.
01:51:59.000And I do think that Trump and all the populists are a reaction against the post-World War II consensus.
01:52:06.000Yeah, I mean, we had, like, once the end of history hit, you know, we were definitely Anti-nationalist, anti-America, anti-conservative values, anti-religion, all of that stuff.
01:52:18.000And the populist movement is a sovereigntist movement.
01:53:54.000But we'd be lucky to have him if we ever did.
01:53:58.000He does follow me on X, but I try not to pester people, you know.
01:54:03.000People try to DM me all the time and stuff, and I'm like, Everybody's always trying to go up the ladder of who they can DM for some favor or whatever, so I try to avoid them.
01:54:11.000You say that, but you're also very warm and you seem to look after people.
01:54:17.000Have you always been like that with Not Passion?
01:54:20.000Was there a time at the beginning when you were building this thing where you actually did?
01:54:24.000Because when I started with my show, at the beginning, trying to get guests is that bloody hardest thing.
01:54:28.000You get to a certain size, people want to come on the show because they know it's good for them.
01:54:33.000But you weren't like that at the beginning?
01:55:59.000Yeah, okay, so you don't want to show you do this Yeah, so there's a Tim cast on YouTube, which is now largely the culture war, but we brought back The so it's an hour-long daily news on the what was like usually the biggest story and so that channels basically come back every day at 4 p.m We're putting up those videos again,
01:56:15.000and then Then then we've got segments at 10 noon 1 3 and 6 Okay, so it's five independent independent 20 minute and four 10 minute segments, an hour long show, which is exclusively on Rumble live at noon, but then becomes the hour YouTube video at four.
01:56:33.000And then Timcast IRL, which is two and a half, two hours, 45 minutes.
01:56:38.000And did 20, did you have a good 2024 of the election year?
01:56:49.000So our viewership's improving, but it's largely due to Strategy and work and things like this.
01:56:56.000So, strangely, you know, a year ago, when YouTube launched shorts, we were getting millions on every short.
01:57:02.000And then they changed the algorithm, and now it's prioritizing a different style of short, and now we get only a few thousand, despite doing them the exact same way.
01:57:10.000That's the annoying thing about how YouTube changes the algorithm.
01:57:12.000But now we're changing the algorithm again, and we're making unique videos.
01:57:16.000The goal is, obviously, in the morning show, it'll always do better than IRL shorts, because for the morning show, It's like, I watch and react to content all day, and the shorts are just minute-long versions of that, so we found a better way to do them.
01:57:37.000Like, it's pretty crazy, because, um, when we launched in mid-February, we were getting, on average, maybe like 50,000 concurrents on YouTube.
01:57:47.000When we joined with Rumble, it split the audience a little bit.
01:57:51.000But today, I think we had 67,000 concurrence.
01:57:54.000So Rumble's audience is a different audience that didn't know the show and didn't watch it.
01:57:58.000But now that we're there, they get exposed to it.
01:57:59.000So it's kind of crazy because now on Rumble, we get like 300 to 400k.
01:58:52.000I was wanting to pick on your guys' attitude from the inside, but looking at the American media escape, it seems to have changed quite a lot even since the election.
01:59:09.000Crowder number one, Vince number two, Timcast number three, Quartering number four, Timcast IRL number five, Bonjina Report with Avita and Haley was six, Redacted News was seven, then you had Live Now from Fox at number eight, and number nine was Timcast IRL again on YouTube!
01:59:25.000You're like the Fatals of Newscasting.
01:59:29.000The funny thing is, if you were to combine the two shows, we probably would have been Tim Castellaro, probably would've been number three.
01:59:36.000But then you have Julia Green on Rumble, Bannon's Warren on Rumble, Viva Fry on Rumble, Glenn Greenwald on Rumble, then Benny Johnson, and then Midas Touch.
01:59:45.000Because Rumble's doing, not only they're doing the morning lineup, but they're also featuring people throughout the day on the front page, which is free advertising for people who are producing good content, who are on that platform.
02:00:52.000You can say Crowder's right, Vince is right, Timcast is moderate, Quartering is moderate, IRL is moderate, Bongino is right, Redacted is probably right.
02:01:02.000IRL again, Julia Green is gonna be right, Bannon is right, Viva Frye moderate, Glenn Greenwald liberal, Benny Johnson right, Midas Touch left.
02:02:48.000So I have information pertaining to what's going on at the Daily Wire, of course, because I know these guys and I know people who work there.
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