Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - GOP Rep Says IRAN Flying Drones Via Mothership Over NJ, Pentagon DENIES w-Ryan Girdusky |Timcast IRL

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00:00:28.000 - Mystery drones over New Jersey.

00:00:30.000 And I gotta tell you, one of the reasons why this story hasn't been getting more attention, by the fact that it's getting quite a bit of attention, is that they're just saying drones when they should be saying flying SUVs.

00:00:41.000 And you start telling people that in New Jersey there are flying SUVs everywhere and no one knows where they're coming from.

00:00:46.000 People might start freaking out.

00:00:48.000 Some people think they're aliens.

00:00:49.000 I think that's silly, though one can hope.

00:00:51.000 Actually, no, I certainly don't hope so because aliens would be doing who knows what.

00:00:54.000 But GOP rep Jeff Andrews says that it's Iran, that Iran launched some kind of mothership off the East Coast, which is dispatching these SUV sized drones to fly over New Jersey and Delaware, which is rather scary if you think about what that means, because Trump lives near there.

00:01:10.000 He's in Mar-a-Lago most of the time, but he's got Bedminster.

00:01:12.000 And there's concerns about what Iran wants to do to Donald Trump.

00:01:16.000 Now, the Pentagon is saying, no, no, no, it's not the case, but we will talk about that.

00:01:21.000 Plus, we got Daniel Penny threatening a lawsuit, malicious prosecution, and he's correct because does anybody know the name of the other guy that held down Jordan Neely?

00:01:31.000 I bet you don't, but we will tell you.

00:01:34.000 We'll talk all about it.

00:01:35.000 And then Caitlin Clark is getting roasted because she said that, like, I don't know what, she's succeeding because of her white privilege? 0.94

00:01:40.000 Fine, whatever.

00:01:41.000 And then I guess ChatGPT is alive.

00:01:43.000 It's lying to its creators to try and survive or something like that.

00:01:48.000 Sounds fun.

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00:03:07.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Ryan Gruduski.

00:03:10.000 Thank you for having me, Tim.

00:03:11.000 Absolutely.

00:03:12.000 Who are you?

00:03:12.000 What do you do?

00:03:13.000 That's a great question.

00:03:14.000 I ask myself in the mirror every day.

00:03:16.000 I'm a political consultant, formerly seen on CNN, and I have a podcast coming out in January on the iHeartRadio network called It's a Numbers Game with Ryan Gruduski.

00:03:27.000 Right on.

00:03:27.000 And this should be fun.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, it should be good.

00:03:31.000 Yeah.

00:03:31.000 We got Raymond hanging out.

00:03:32.000 Hey, friends.

00:03:33.000 Hey, friends.

00:03:34.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. here, USMC vet and blue-collar bully.

00:03:38.000 Hey, Phil.

00:03:38.000 Hello, everybody.

00:03:39.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:03:40.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:03:42.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:03:45.000 Ryan didn't tell you, but he is actually a beeper salesman.

00:03:47.000 Yeah.

00:03:49.000 I was going to wait to say anything.

00:03:52.000 I have to do something better in my life where that can't be the only thing I'm known for.

00:03:56.000 I have to figure out something else to do.

00:03:58.000 Dude, it was great.

00:03:59.000 Yeah, I know.

00:04:00.000 Definitely something to be proud of.

00:04:01.000 We do have a story.

00:04:02.000 CNN is losing in the ratings to the Food Network.

00:04:05.000 And we'll get into it, but I don't want to drag CNN over this because the Food Network's awesome.

00:04:11.000 Everyone loves food.

00:04:12.000 Dude, come on here. 0.98

00:04:12.000 Watching someone make a good lasagna. 0.98

00:04:14.000 That's actually a really good point.

00:04:15.000 They have the Christmas baking time right now.

00:04:17.000 Food is universal to human beings.

00:04:20.000 Not everybody cares about the news.

00:04:22.000 I'm not going to blame CNN for that one, but we'll talk about it.

00:04:24.000 So let's jump to this story here, the one that is the most shocking.

00:04:28.000 The New York Post reports mystery New Jersey drones are coming from Iranian mothership offshore.

00:04:34.000 Congressman suggests, quote, should be shot down. 0.99

00:04:38.000 Holy crap, no. 0.99

00:04:40.000 That would be catastrophic. 0.97

00:04:42.000 They shouldn't be allowed to fly over New Jersey and the United States.

00:04:45.000 But I just want to stress, he didn't suggest it.

00:04:48.000 He literally said, I have high-level sources who are telling me this is Iran doing this.

00:04:54.000 Now, that's kind of scary if it's true.

00:04:57.000 I don't know that I believe it, because...

00:05:00.000 We're going to need some, I don't know, better sourcing.

00:05:02.000 But the Pentagon has come out and outright said, nah, this is not true.

00:05:06.000 Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey?

00:05:11.000 It's near sensitive installations.

00:05:14.000 The FBI is involved.

00:05:16.000 What is the Pentagon doing?

00:05:17.000 I'm going to pause real quick and just stress.

00:05:19.000 Guys, these are not just drones.

00:05:21.000 They are the size of SUVs.

00:05:23.000 These are flying escalades, okay?

00:05:26.000 Not literally, but massive vehicles flying at low altitude over these urban areas, and people are like, what is going on?

00:05:33.000 And apparently there's been 3,000 reports to the federal government about—so it doesn't mean 3,000 drones, but people are seeing these things all over the place.

00:05:40.000 Is the mothership the SUV, or are they all of them?

00:05:43.000 No, no, no.

00:05:44.000 There's a ship off the East Coast that's launching SUV-sized drones.

00:05:47.000 Right, okay.

00:05:47.000 Yeah, which is, I mean, that's a big runway.

00:05:49.000 I have one thing to point out.

00:05:51.000 If they were flying saucers, and they crossed the whole universe, and they ended up in New Jersey...

00:05:58.000 You've already made your point.

00:05:59.000 How disappointed would you be as an alien?

00:06:03.000 Especially up north, right outside New York City.

00:06:05.000 Right, exactly.

00:06:06.000 You're in Newark, and you're like, I gotta get out of here.

00:06:09.000 Is this what humanity has to offer?

00:06:11.000 Exactly.

00:06:11.000 This is not a great place.

00:06:13.000 Let's leave.

00:06:14.000 For that matter, if it is Iran, what are they doing in Newark?

00:06:18.000 Well, there's a lot of chemical and nuclear plants up there, too.

00:06:23.000 There's a lot of chemical plants. 0.94

00:06:23.000 A lot of trash. 0.94

00:06:24.000 That's all I know. 0.99

00:06:25.000 There's a ton of chemical plants up in northern America.

00:06:27.000 Well, maybe that's why the aliens would come there, too.

00:06:30.000 For what?

00:06:31.000 They would have their own chemicals.

00:06:32.000 Well, to take out our chemical production.

00:06:35.000 I guess.

00:06:35.000 I mean, Iran makes more sense than aliens going to Delaware to see Joe Biden nude bathe on the beach.

00:06:46.000 Actually, I disagree.

00:06:47.000 That's one thing the aliens probably would do to study humans and be like, let's see what their leader does on the beach. 0.96

00:06:52.000 Imagine that.

00:06:53.000 Yeah, they see Joe Biden.

00:06:54.000 He doesn't know where he is.

00:06:55.000 He's stumbling.

00:06:56.000 And they're like, listen, we're not going to this country anymore or this place anymore.

00:07:00.000 This is the strongest of them.

00:07:02.000 We're going to bypass the planet.

00:07:05.000 You know, it is silly, but the scariest thought is if aliens did come to Earth and then said, we're going to choose a nation that we believe is the strongest we should communicate with for treaties, and they came to the United States and saw Biden, they'd look at each other and be like, let's try Russia.

00:07:18.000 I mean, I can't imagine them not being like, they picked this guy?

00:07:21.000 Do they actually have a say in who chooses, you know?

00:07:25.000 That's true, though.

00:07:26.000 That is really true.

00:07:27.000 Or if they went to the wrong place, like Mozambique, and they're like, whoa.

00:07:30.000 Like, this is...

00:07:31.000 We are in the wrong place.

00:07:33.000 You know, one could imagine they would go to where the lights are.

00:07:36.000 Right.

00:07:37.000 That's true.

00:07:38.000 But that's assuming they have eyes that can see light as we see light.

00:07:43.000 Right.

00:07:43.000 Or all we know, they don't.

00:07:44.000 Or heat.

00:07:45.000 They admit with heat, I guess I can feel.

00:07:46.000 I have no idea.

00:07:47.000 I don't really think about aliens that often.

00:07:48.000 I don't think this is aliens.

00:07:50.000 I don't think it's aliens either.

00:07:50.000 I'm not even sure it's Iranians.

00:07:52.000 But then the question is, what is it?

00:07:53.000 And why would Jeff Andrews say it was Iranian and they should shoot these things down?

00:07:57.000 Well, can't they?

00:07:58.000 Isn't it possible?

00:07:59.000 And I know nothing about, like, how to destroy a drone besides, like, obviously shooting it.

00:08:02.000 But can't they, like, jam it?

00:08:04.000 Or I guess it would maybe affect the planes, too.

00:08:06.000 Yeah, you could.

00:08:08.000 But you need information on the drone and to understand how it's being controlled.

00:08:11.000 If it's pre-programmed flight, then you probably can't do anything.

00:08:14.000 I feel like we have the technology to do that, though, don't we?

00:08:17.000 For one of them?

00:08:18.000 These drones in general don't need GPS or wireless data to fly on a path.

00:08:24.000 It can be pre-programmed internally, and it can measure its own speed and distance.

00:08:28.000 Even if it's the size of a Subaru?

00:08:30.000 Yes, especially of the size of a Subaru.

00:08:32.000 People are so used to the small drones that they see, the ones that you can fly and own personally and stuff.

00:08:39.000 You forget that the first drones that you knew about were the Global Hawk and the drones over Afghanistan that could carry Hellfire missiles and fire them.

00:08:48.000 That was the first...

00:08:51.000 First exposure to any kind of military drone, at least.

00:08:54.000 I mean, there are big, big drones.

00:08:56.000 There are drones that look like...

00:08:58.000 The US has drones that look like stealth aircraft, or they have stealth characteristics and stuff.

00:09:04.000 If it is Iran, I think that... 1.00

00:09:07.000 The U.S. should be, you know, the Coast Guard should be patrolling the waters off our coast.

00:09:13.000 How did Iran get a ship large enough to house a ton of drones and get it that close to the, I mean, is it in the middle of the ocean or is it close to New Jersey? 0.64

00:09:21.000 I don't know what the range is.

00:09:23.000 Or Jeff Andrews is wrong.

00:09:24.000 Or Jeff Andrews is wrong, which is, I mean, he does represent southern Jersey, so...

00:09:28.000 Right.

00:09:28.000 And he used to be a Democrat.

00:09:30.000 He was a Democrat.

00:09:32.000 He's the only Republican with an A-plus rating from the pro-abortion people because he's still very liberal on social issues.

00:09:39.000 But he wins by landslides.

00:09:41.000 They do love him in South Jersey.

00:09:43.000 But, I mean, it's Cape May, so...

00:09:46.000 Yeah, they say he stands by his statements, but as I mentioned, I just want to play the last little bit of this.

00:09:50.000 It'll be about a month ago that contains these drones and that that mother... 1.00

00:09:54.000 I'm sorry.

00:09:54.000 ...drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary.

00:09:59.000 Representative Jeff Van Drew, who is a Republican from New Jersey, was just on the air saying that Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones and that that mothership is off the east coast of the United States.

00:10:14.000 Is there any truth to that?

00:10:16.000 There is not any truth to that.

00:10:18.000 There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United States.

00:10:25.000 Do we believe him?

00:10:26.000 No, I think that the military generally doesn't want to give the public information about anything that's going on ever because the government likes to overclassify things anyways.

00:10:40.000 They like to control what information is out.

00:10:42.000 And there is legitimacy to the desire because...

00:10:47.000 The more the government, the military can control the information that whatever opposing force has, the more they can control...

00:10:58.000 The information they get, the better position the U.S. military is in.

00:11:02.000 Yeah, I mean, they wouldn't be honest, I don't think.

00:11:04.000 I mean, listen, if Iran was, like, having weaponized drones fly over New Jersey, they're not going to be like, yeah, panic.

00:11:10.000 They're going to be like, all right, you know, don't worry about anything.

00:11:13.000 I mean, that's probably what they would do.

00:11:15.000 It does kind of seem to make sense to me that Jeff Van Drew is talking with someone in the know who says this, not expecting Van Drew to go on TV and just go, they just told me this.

00:11:24.000 And then the military's like, stop, no.

00:11:27.000 And so what a lot of people need to understand is the U.S. military, there are times where we get attacked, they don't tell you.

00:11:34.000 Because the U.S. wants to control the narrative as to what our strength is and when we engage.

00:11:39.000 When the U.S. says several of our troops were just bombed by Iran, they're basically saying we need public support for retaliation or some kind of incursion.

00:11:47.000 Remember when those Chinese balloons were flying all over the West Coast of the United States?

00:11:50.000 And they were like, oh, it's nothing.

00:11:51.000 Don't worry about it.

00:11:52.000 And I'm like, oh.

00:11:53.000 I kind of chalked that up to just incompetence by the Biden administration.

00:12:00.000 But look, I think anything that violates the U.S. airspace, if it can't identify itself, the U.S. has every right and probably should shoot it down.

00:12:10.000 Right.

00:12:11.000 Because...

00:12:12.000 The size of bombs and things like that.

00:12:15.000 You don't need a massive, especially when you're dealing with stuff that's the size of a car.

00:12:19.000 And, like, New Jersey is the most densely populated state in the country.

00:12:21.000 If they have a, you know, Christmas holiday season, they could just, like, literally...

00:12:26.000 Forget about blowing up a...

00:12:28.000 If they blew up a bridge...

00:12:31.000 Like, they would lock down literally the most populated city with the most densely populated state in the blink of an eye.

00:12:37.000 So it doesn't...

00:12:38.000 I mean, they don't have to...

00:12:39.000 I mean, I'm saying...

00:12:39.000 I don't know if they're weaponized.

00:12:40.000 I don't know if it's Iran.

00:12:42.000 But I feel like if you downed one and there was, like, Iranian, like, language and print or whatever, like, made in Tehran on the side of it, you'd be like, oh, okay, I kind of know who this is now. 0.96

00:12:51.000 I do think that it makes sense to shoot them down.

00:12:54.000 I mean, Raymond, you're a military guy.

00:12:56.000 I mean...

00:12:56.000 Yeah, there's a lot of implications if it's going to go ahead and shoot it down over, like, populated lands.

00:13:01.000 Sure.

00:13:02.000 I think they should have a helicopter out there.

00:13:04.000 I don't know why they don't have a helicopter out there tracking them.

00:13:06.000 See where they go.

00:13:07.000 If it's actually a threat, why are they not someone in there, Apache in the air, following them and see where they go?

00:13:11.000 Well, they shot down our drones, remember, under Trump.

00:13:13.000 They were running and shut down Americans. 0.99

00:13:15.000 And we didn't retaliate at all.

00:13:16.000 They were like...

00:13:17.000 The thing to consider about shooting down these SUV-sized drones is, first...

00:13:22.000 What happens when it falls out of the sky and what does it land on?

00:13:25.000 That's the obvious one.

00:13:26.000 The next one is, where do your bullets go?

00:13:29.000 Yeah, it's true if you're dealing with bullets.

00:13:32.000 I think that if they're the size that we're talking about, if they are the size of a car, they should have a radar signature.

00:13:41.000 How do they miss them?

00:13:42.000 Yeah, you could see them while they're over the ocean still, if they're coming from the ocean.

00:13:49.000 Right.

00:13:49.000 If that's the argument.

00:13:50.000 Now, again, I don't know what...

00:13:51.000 You can shoot on the beach.

00:13:51.000 It's not summer.

00:13:52.000 There's no one on the beach.

00:13:52.000 Yeah, you can still shoot them out while they're over the air.

00:13:55.000 Right.

00:13:56.000 And I do think that this is an argument for...

00:13:58.000 In the future, the U.S. should be looking to—I know that there's efforts to create, like, laser anti-air stuff that's not missiles and stuff, because shooting a missile is expensive.

00:14:11.000 A javelin is like $100,000 per shot or whatever.

00:14:14.000 That's pennies in our mind.

00:14:16.000 Maybe under the new Elon Musk doge, we won't be spending that kind of money, but that's nothing.

00:14:21.000 It is, but if you have a laser, like lasers are faster to track, they can target stuff.

00:14:29.000 Ostensibly, the theory is that they can...

00:14:33.000 Well, they have lasers on ships now.

00:14:36.000 No, I know.

00:14:36.000 And so if you had that kind of stuff, they can shoot down.

00:14:39.000 Like, there's all this talk about hypersonic missiles, which are just ICBMs or whatever.

00:14:42.000 If you can track and shoot those down, I mean, that's a worthwhile expense for the U.S. How many drones was it?

00:14:49.000 Because it's not 3,000 drones, it's 3,000 sightings.

00:14:52.000 It could be 3,000 people one time.

00:14:53.000 One time.

00:14:54.000 That's a good question, too.

00:14:56.000 I think it's dozens.

00:14:57.000 That's a lot.

00:14:58.000 Or a dozen.

00:14:58.000 That's a lot.

00:14:59.000 There are photos where you can see there's like several in the air at one time.

00:15:02.000 I mean, look at the way to take them down out of the sky is you want to wait for them to go over a much sparsely populated area, and then you want to drop a net onto the rotors, depending on if that's what they're using to fly.

00:15:14.000 I'm assuming these are rotor-based drones, but I could be wrong.

00:15:17.000 And if they are more like small jets, then you've got a bigger issue, but...

00:15:23.000 They've got to be brought down.

00:15:25.000 They could probably easily hack them.

00:15:27.000 And I say easily, I don't mean anybody could just do it, but anybody with the skills could figure this out.

00:15:33.000 There is also the...

00:15:34.000 I would find this interesting is they may not actually be wireless.

00:15:38.000 I would imagine because of what the U.S. already saw with the drone getting hacked and brought down, this technology has been updated.

00:15:44.000 And although many of these drones are going to be wireless and remote controlled, some of them will be pre-programmed.

00:15:49.000 So we've had this technology forever.

00:15:51.000 You can...

00:15:53.000 Put in the GPS coordinates in a drone.

00:15:55.000 It'll identify where it's at.

00:15:56.000 You can then deactivate its GPS, but it knows how far and fast it's going, and it has an internal map.

00:16:03.000 So it can track on a map and follow a route, come back with no external communications.

00:16:09.000 That you're not gonna hack.

00:16:10.000 That's why you need to shoot it down.

00:16:11.000 I did see a lot of them, they have lights on them.

00:16:13.000 So if they're irate...

00:16:15.000 Yes.

00:16:16.000 Go ahead.

00:16:17.000 I was going to say, if they're adversary, why are there lights?

00:16:21.000 Why can we see them in the sky?

00:16:22.000 And it's been, as part of this report, is that when people take note of them and begin pointing, filming, and staring, the lights shut off.

00:16:29.000 Oh, we have video of them with lights on, correct?

00:16:31.000 Right.

00:16:31.000 So, the...

00:16:33.000 You have to...

00:16:34.000 I'll tell you a story, man.

00:16:35.000 My buddy was in a conflict zone reporting, and he said that he, like, a simplified version of it, he went into his hotel room and his computer was open.

00:16:46.000 And he was like, okay, well, my computer is always shut off, turned off, locked.

00:16:50.000 It was open, and the desktop was open like someone had logged in.

00:16:53.000 They want you to know they did that.

00:16:55.000 The only reason why Intel guys or whatever you want to call them, the only reason why they would forget to leave your laptop, to close your laptop, is because when you come back, they want you to know they were in your room and they had done this.

00:17:08.000 Okay.

00:17:09.000 Well, yeah, I mean, if you're Iran and you could get into the interior of the United States, that is pretty... 0.99

00:17:14.000 For anyone, I mean, not even just Iran, China, anybody, Russia, whoever, that's pretty freaking crazy.

00:17:19.000 To your point about China, or you bring up China, the fact that China flew a balloon over that made it literally over the whole country multiple times, I think that if it is...

00:17:32.000 I ran.

00:17:32.000 I imagine this is, you know, China in, you know, fighting.

00:17:36.000 And do you know how many dumbass Zoomers probably took selfies with the balloon in the back and be like, look how beautiful that is. 0.98

00:17:41.000 Like, this is such a great moment for Instagram. 0.98

00:17:43.000 That balloon's in like 75 million different Instagram shots at this point.

00:17:48.000 We'll read one more Super Chat before we jump over, but Mechanical Mercenary says they are manned and supposedly pivotal aero units doing military testing can't shoot our own pilots down.

00:17:59.000 Oh, he's saying it's us?

00:18:00.000 Yeah, I think it's a strong possibility that it's U.S.-based, but I don't know why they'd be flying over densely populated New Jersey urban areas, you know what I mean?

00:18:08.000 Yeah, as testing stuff out there.

00:18:10.000 We have plenty of land they can test out these products.

00:18:12.000 And she would just say it's a routine whatever.

00:18:15.000 She would just say it's something else.

00:18:17.000 Yeah, and if they're testing, that's what the Area 51 is for, because they're over the desert, there's not a lot of...

00:18:23.000 Tons of land with nobody living on it.

00:18:25.000 Sure, there's people that are watching, And we own 75 million islands in the middle of the Pacific if there's no one living on.

00:18:30.000 The Mojave is...

00:18:31.000 Whatever.

00:18:32.000 There's a bunch of islands.

00:18:33.000 The Mojave Desert is ripe for flying weird things.

00:18:36.000 That's why they have the spaceport out there.

00:18:37.000 Yeah, so I don't think they would fly over New Jersey.

00:18:39.000 I don't think they were like, you know what?

00:18:41.000 Let's go crazy.

00:18:42.000 Newark. 0.66

00:18:43.000 Well...

00:18:44.000 Let's bring it back to Earth with this story from the Postmillennial Wanted posters calling for violence against health insurance CEOs spotted in New York.

00:18:53.000 There's a quote, Brian Thompson was denied his claim to life.

00:18:55.000 Who will be denied next?

00:18:56.000 Look at this.

00:18:57.000 This is crazy.

00:18:59.000 TikTok, TikToker, the BBQ lady, shared a video this week showing wanted posters for health insurance CEOs plastered all over Manhattan.

00:19:05.000 They say, deny, defend, depose.

00:19:06.000 When the rich rob the poor, it's called business.

00:19:09.000 When the poor fight back, it's called violence, says the one for murdered...

00:19:15.000 Oh, says the poster for murdered healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

00:19:19.000 A suspect in Thompson's murder was arrested, this we know.

00:19:21.000 The poster shows his photo with a red X through it.

00:19:24.000 It blames Thompson, not his killer, for his death and issues threats to other executives with Optum Health and UnitedHealthcare.

00:19:30.000 These posters are a direct call for violence against executives in the health insurance industry.

00:19:34.000 Here's a question.

00:19:36.000 Do you think if someone was caught putting these up, they could be arrested and charged?

00:19:40.000 Not in New York.

00:19:41.000 No, not I. I'm not asking about New York.

00:19:43.000 I'm saying under the law, is this a violation of the law?

00:19:46.000 Do they call for death in there?

00:19:48.000 I don't know what they say.

00:19:48.000 Yeah, what do they say?

00:19:49.000 If they call for death, then I think so.

00:19:52.000 That's the question.

00:19:53.000 Because it's not—this is an actual threat, then.

00:19:56.000 It's not—if they're calling for—if they say, execute this person who lives at this address, then yes, I think that they can.

00:20:02.000 It looks like they're mock-wanted photos.

00:20:04.000 Yeah, I understand that, but with the language in it, yeah.

00:20:06.000 Right.

00:20:06.000 If someone's putting up a flyer that says, do a thing to a person, it's a question of, is that crossing the line into illegality?

00:20:13.000 I think if it says specifically what you want to do, if it says harm this person, you can't make physical threats to somebody.

00:20:18.000 You could sit there and say they're terrible people.

00:20:20.000 This is the challenge.

00:20:22.000 What if it says, here's a picture of a CEO, you know what must be done, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

00:20:27.000 Literally, the text says that.

00:20:29.000 Is that a threat of violence?

00:20:31.000 Because we know what they're saying.

00:20:33.000 I failed at a law school.

00:20:35.000 I didn't go to law school, so I don't really know.

00:20:37.000 But I have no idea what...

00:20:40.000 I don't know.

00:20:42.000 I think that...

00:20:43.000 I don't know.

00:20:43.000 It depends on what it's...

00:20:44.000 Does it say what it's exactly saying?

00:20:46.000 Deny...

00:20:47.000 No, I don't think that...

00:20:48.000 I'm speaking like...

00:20:50.000 The point I'm bringing up is...

00:20:52.000 Obviously, if someone puts up a poster that says, you should go do thing that is criminal, that's criminal.

00:20:58.000 I'm saying if someone uses veiled language that we know what the intention is, but they didn't literally say it, do we just say, well, you know— Well, we saw that in all the Gaza protests.

00:21:07.000 They said veiled language, but it was legal because we have a First Amendment in this country.

00:21:12.000 You can say something as long as you're not actually threatening somebody.

00:21:15.000 I think that there was—I think if this is veiled language, it's legal.

00:21:18.000 They're going to start going out chanting, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest?

00:21:21.000 Yeah, but— I mean, it depends on the question you're asking.

00:21:23.000 Are you asking is or ought?

00:21:25.000 So should it be illegal?

00:21:28.000 Maybe.

00:21:28.000 Is it illegal?

00:21:29.000 Great point.

00:21:30.000 Probably not.

00:21:30.000 You know the story of I want someone rid me of this priest?

00:21:33.000 No, I don't.

00:21:33.000 The king was frustrated with the priest.

00:21:35.000 He was like, oh, I want someone rid me of this priest, this meddlesome priest. 0.58

00:21:37.000 And then two knights were like, okay, and they went and killed him.

00:21:40.000 And he was like, I didn't tell you to do this!

00:21:42.000 Where was this country?

00:21:43.000 Is it for real?

00:21:44.000 Britain, I think.

00:21:45.000 Oh, okay.

00:21:45.000 Sounds like a British thing to do.

00:21:46.000 It does.

00:21:48.000 I don't think that this...

00:21:51.000 I don't read the poster and I didn't go to law school.

00:21:53.000 Turbulent.

00:21:54.000 Turbulent priest.

00:21:55.000 It was Henry II of England preceding the death of Thomas Beckett.

00:21:58.000 He was frustrated and annoyed by him and said, you know...

00:22:01.000 Well, Beckett never shut up, so I can see that.

00:22:03.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 I think that – I don't think that this is illegal from what I see.

00:22:11.000 But I'm not a lawyer.

00:22:12.000 But it's definitely a threat there.

00:22:14.000 And I'm sure if you were a CEO, you'd probably be moving to a gated community and not seeing yourself publicly.

00:22:21.000 What you're saying is a civil war is coming?

00:22:22.000 No.

00:22:24.000 Didn't say that at all.

00:22:25.000 And their fight back is, like...

00:22:26.000 America is so fat, we cannot have a civil war.

00:22:28.000 We can barely walk to the corner.

00:22:30.000 So, like, it would be a rolling electronic civil war.

00:22:33.000 We're all on, like, those things you see at Walmart and Disney World.

00:22:35.000 That would be, like, the army instead of tanks.

00:22:37.000 Like that robot animation.

00:22:39.000 Yeah.

00:22:40.000 Just the morbidly obese of both factions.

00:22:41.000 Just the morbidly obese of people just trying to, you know, roll towards each other.

00:22:45.000 Sir, we need... 0.78

00:22:48.000 More rascals for the front line. 0.89

00:22:50.000 Forget about rising again.

00:22:51.000 They can't rise, period.

00:22:53.000 It's just, yeah, no.

00:22:55.000 I don't think that this is...

00:22:57.000 What do you think happens with this wave of...

00:23:00.000 Is this a flash in the pan that people forget about come January?

00:23:03.000 Well, look, you were at the Occupy Wall Street stuff.

00:23:07.000 How long did that last for?

00:23:09.000 Well, not only that...

00:23:10.000 Four months, and then by, like, February, the protests were a tenth of their size, and then...

00:23:15.000 Yeah, everyone moves on.

00:23:16.000 Listen, I know, I don't think that it's everyone moving on.

00:23:18.000 This kind of stuff, this sentiment, is built on Occupy.

00:23:23.000 It's built on the...

00:23:24.000 That's true, too.

00:23:25.000 It's the same people involved.

00:23:26.000 Okay, but true question.

00:23:27.000 If Luigi was not good-looking, would anyone care?

00:23:30.000 Oh, good question.

00:23:31.000 I do think so.

00:23:32.000 They don't care about the crime as much as they care about the person because he's handsome.

00:23:36.000 JonBenet, they didn't care much about the crime.

00:23:38.000 They cared about the victim.

00:23:40.000 I don't know, man.

00:23:40.000 George Floyd was not that pretty.

00:23:42.000 And that still set up a bunch of...

00:23:44.000 Yeah, but...

00:23:45.000 Chauvin.

00:23:46.000 It was...

00:23:50.000 I mean, I understand what you're saying, that the charisma of the actual shooter might have something to say.

00:23:57.000 Big difference.

00:23:57.000 But I have felt like, and I continue to make the argument regularly, that there is a sentiment in the U.S. that is illiberal.

00:24:05.000 We have a big communist problem in the U.S., and there are people that are essentially making class-dynamic Or class conflict arguments.

00:24:17.000 This is totally about class dynamics.

00:24:18.000 That's 100% true.

00:24:20.000 His case is very strange.

00:24:21.000 I was talking on the way here.

00:24:24.000 He might be the guy.

00:24:25.000 You don't think so?

00:24:26.000 His lawyer said they've so far been presented no evidence that he's actually the guy who...

00:24:31.000 There's no evidence tying him to New York.

00:24:33.000 I'm not saying I believe that's true.

00:24:34.000 The lawyer could be saying that for obvious reasons.

00:24:36.000 But also the police reported that this guy wasn't even on their radar or list when he was actually apprehended.

00:24:42.000 Why did he have to show an idea to McDonald's?

00:24:45.000 No, they called the cops on him, and the cops came in, you know, show me your ID. So the cops asked him, who are you?

00:24:51.000 It wasn't a McDonald's worker.

00:24:52.000 Okay, so someone's one of the workers.

00:24:53.000 I have a second cousin who looks just like him.

00:24:56.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:24:58.000 All Italians and Southern really look like semi-related to that guy.

00:25:03.000 I think that...

00:25:04.000 Here's what's weird.

00:25:05.000 He was from a super wealthy family, right?

00:25:08.000 I don't think he was denied any services.

00:25:11.000 That's the whole argument.

00:25:12.000 Like, oh, he was denied a service, therefore he became a vigilante.

00:25:15.000 I never have heard of him being denied a service.

00:25:18.000 I heard that he got back surgery that is notoriously...

00:25:24.000 You get it, and maybe it'll work, maybe it won't.

00:25:27.000 And his didn't work out, and so he blames the...

00:25:30.000 Blames the insurance company?

00:25:33.000 You know that he's an insult, right? 0.98

00:25:34.000 He can't have sex. 0.99

00:25:35.000 Which also makes no sense, because he's so built. 1.00

00:25:38.000 He's so jacked. 0.99

00:25:39.000 How can you lift weights and not have sex? 1.00

00:25:41.000 Let her get on top. 1.00

00:25:43.000 It's not that much work.

00:25:44.000 I mean, like, seriously, that doesn't make any sense.

00:25:48.000 A lot of things in his narrative don't make sense.

00:25:50.000 Someone reported...

00:25:50.000 So it's like a guy who knows him says that his back pain was so bad that he couldn't be intimate.

00:25:55.000 I read that.

00:25:56.000 That was like a roommate or something like that.

00:25:57.000 I'm just clarifying for the audience.

00:25:58.000 No, yeah.

00:25:59.000 I mean, I get it.

00:26:00.000 But, like, at the same time, a lot of things in the whole story just are very strange.

00:26:05.000 It could be really simple.

00:26:07.000 Like, the thing about incels is that...

00:26:09.000 There was some interview a while ago with a guy who was an incel, and he was an average-looking guy.

00:26:13.000 And he was like, it's just impossible for us to be intimate with women, blah, blah, blah.

00:26:19.000 And the response from most people in the comments was like, what are you talking about?

00:26:22.000 He's like a normal guy.

00:26:22.000 The issue is social and in his mind.

00:26:24.000 It's possible he's ripped, but still completely incapable of talking to women. 0.97

00:26:29.000 Possibly, he's very handsome.

00:26:31.000 He went to an Ivy League school, rich, rich family. 1.00

00:26:33.000 Dumb as a box of rocks, though. 1.00

00:26:35.000 Possibly. 1.00

00:26:36.000 Did you read his manifesto?

00:26:37.000 I mean, there was a lot of spelling errors.

00:26:39.000 I mean, like, there was a lot of spelling errors.

00:26:42.000 And I also read some of his book reviews.

00:26:43.000 I also saw his Spotify playlist. 0.99

00:26:44.000 That was strange as shit. 0.98

00:26:46.000 It was like Charlie XCX, Taylor Swift, and Lana Del Rey. 0.99

00:26:49.000 Who kills someone after listening to Taylor Swift?

00:26:51.000 I mean, like, I mean, yes, but like, no, not out of aggression, or you're listening to Taylor Swift.

00:26:57.000 It's like you're, you know, energized by a Taylor Swift song. 0.82

00:27:00.000 To Tim's point, though, and actually this is something that Matty Iglesias tweeted yesterday, like, There were big, dumb things in his manifesto.

00:27:08.000 So he's talking about the market cap list, which is totally wrong.

00:27:12.000 He ignores the role of homicide, suicide, drug overdose, and car wrecks and life expectancy.

00:27:17.000 Obesity, yeah.

00:27:17.000 So he's saying that life expectancy is something that the health insurance company or health insurance industry should have an effect on, and that's totally...

00:27:27.000 Misaligned. 0.99

00:27:28.000 Overstating the role of insurer profit in the U.S. to health spending.

00:27:32.000 And then Roe Connell repeated all the bad facts about how much...

00:27:36.000 Yeah, I mean, he's in Congress. 1.00

00:27:38.000 So the guy was an idiot. 1.00

00:27:40.000 Yeah, no, there was a lot of things completely and totally wrong. 1.00

00:27:43.000 Also, life expectancy is back up again and obesity is down.

00:27:47.000 Health-wise, under Biden's presidency, actually things have started getting a little better.

00:27:51.000 But, not to his credit, it just so happened.

00:27:53.000 And not to him.

00:27:53.000 Not to him.

00:27:54.000 No, no.

00:27:55.000 Oh, sorry, Joe.

00:27:56.000 But yes, I don't think that he was a philosopher king.

00:28:01.000 Also, wait, he has such bad back problems.

00:28:03.000 He's being shoved by the cops and fighting against them. 0.97

00:28:06.000 You can't have sex, but you can go with your arms tied behind your back and start shoving at cops.

00:28:12.000 The incel thing may have been just to deride him.

00:28:14.000 I don't think that that's real.

00:28:15.000 I'm sorry.

00:28:16.000 I just don't believe it.

00:28:16.000 And being rich and wealthy makes no sense.

00:28:19.000 In the aspect of BLM, a lot of folks, it's people in New York who were caught throwing Molotov cocktails at the cops.

00:28:25.000 Rich.

00:28:25.000 Yeah.

00:28:26.000 Wealth doesn't pay an expense.

00:28:28.000 No, I didn't say wealth to be a socialist.

00:28:30.000 You said it doesn't make sense.

00:28:31.000 No, it doesn't make sense that you couldn't have sex and be wealthy.

00:28:33.000 That's easy to buy, I mean, if you're that wealthy.

00:28:35.000 But no, most radicals usually do tend to come from higher income families.

00:28:41.000 Yeah.

00:28:41.000 The poor are not the ones.

00:28:43.000 After your 12-hour shift at Walmart, you're not going like, you know what I need to do right now?

00:28:48.000 Get a Molotov cocktail.

00:28:50.000 You're kind of exhausted.

00:28:52.000 But most of these people are from wealthy.

00:28:53.000 I believe the radicalization could happen.

00:28:55.000 I believe that he could have printed a ghost gun. 1.00

00:28:58.000 He was such a smart engineer, and maybe his political takes were all bullshit. 0.98

00:29:01.000 But there's a lot of things that are very, very strange about the case. 0.95

00:29:05.000 I agree that it's strange.

00:29:07.000 Yeah.

00:29:07.000 I just want to ask you about the silencer, right?

00:29:09.000 Wasn't there a silencer in the video?

00:29:10.000 So we didn't find that.

00:29:12.000 I haven't seen any reports that they found a silencer as well.

00:29:14.000 They found a gun.

00:29:15.000 The photos I've seen was just a gun in a magazine.

00:29:19.000 Didn't they say that they had the silencer?

00:29:21.000 Not that I've read yet.

00:29:22.000 I tried to look it up a little bit, but I haven't seen it.

00:29:24.000 One other thing.

00:29:25.000 We know more about him than the Trump shooter, the Las Vegas shooter, almost every other shooter.

00:29:31.000 And I think it's because, partially, people are interested in him because he's good looking.

00:29:35.000 I don't think that they cared.

00:29:36.000 I think that that has driven a lot of attention in this case where, you know, I wasn't alive during Ted Bundy. 0.91

00:29:44.000 No, I think that that's—well, listen, I look like a fat Jew, so it doesn't matter to me.

00:29:48.000 But I think that this is probably what is projected a lot of interest in this case.

00:29:53.000 I don't really think there's going to be like a bunch of vigilantes now being like, you know what?

00:29:56.000 I'm going to do the next Luigi.

00:29:57.000 You know, I don't— I think that I probably agree with you there's not going to be a bunch of vigilantes, but I do still stand by the argument that there is a significant upswing, and there has been for the past 10 or so years, maybe longer, of essentially Marxist power dynamics that people believe.

00:30:17.000 If you are an oppressed person, or if you can style yourself oppressed, and we see it with the way that...

00:30:26.000 People have been lying about being minorities or whatever.

00:30:30.000 They lie about, I'm some oppressed group because that is social currency now.

00:30:35.000 If you are oppressed, then you are...

00:30:39.000 Or it's not even if you are oppressed, if you're fighting for the oppressed.

00:30:42.000 Yeah, that's true too.

00:30:43.000 This guy's not oppressed.

00:30:44.000 He's not oppressed.

00:30:45.000 He's not oppressed.

00:30:46.000 But he's fighting for the oppressed, which makes him an ally or whatever the hell they call it.

00:30:50.000 And that dynamic, that essentially, again, Marxist power dynamic, is something that is really, really prevalent probably in Gen Z and maybe some younger millennials probably too.

00:31:02.000 And it's a poison.

00:31:04.000 Yeah, and I think a lot of it lives on the internet, where the people's brains go to fry.

00:31:08.000 I think there is, like, men's illness is really being driven on the internet big time.

00:31:12.000 You know, I was talking to a buddy of mine who was recently in New York, and he was concerned that...

00:31:21.000 The liberal center of New York would have a negative reaction to his presence because of his online persona, and he found completely none of it, and people were happy to meet him, and they were fans.

00:31:31.000 And I was just like, there's two things to understand.

00:31:33.000 The internet is not real life, but the internet deeply influences the institutions of real life, like how ads are bought and what people are willing to say or not to say.

00:31:43.000 So what I find is...

00:31:46.000 99.9% of people I meet are going to be fans.

00:31:50.000 They're going to agree largely on most of these issues.

00:31:52.000 They're going to say abortion to the point of birth.

00:31:54.000 That's crazy!

00:31:55.000 But maybe they're more moderate on abortion issues.

00:31:58.000 But then the problem is with the internet and with wokeness up until obviously the sweep this November, advertisers and individuals are scared to speak out against what they perceive to be the dominant culture.

00:32:09.000 Right.

00:32:09.000 No, that's true.

00:32:10.000 That's 100 percent true.

00:32:11.000 People only look at financial retaliation.

00:32:16.000 I saw this on like an Instagram thing, so maybe it's not true.

00:32:21.000 But didn't a lot of the View ladies just recently lose endorsement deals or whatever because of how hatred—look at MSNBC. I know that for a fact. 1.00

00:32:28.000 That's what I read.

00:32:29.000 There were a few of them that lost movie deals or whatever.

00:32:32.000 Could be wrong, but look at MSNBC. It's being sold for scraps. 0.95

00:32:36.000 CNN, the Food Channel.

00:32:37.000 I mean, they are all, because it's so vitriolically hated—there's so much hatred, rather, coming from them that I think that—oh, sorry, hatred towards conservatives from them that I think that people are kind of tired of.

00:32:50.000 Look, man, you see Gwen Stefani.

00:32:53.000 She recently did a commercial.

00:32:54.000 What was it?

00:32:54.000 For Hello?

00:32:55.000 Yeah, for Hello.

00:32:56.000 For the Catholic thing. 0.56

00:32:57.000 Yeah, a lot of people were like...

00:32:58.000 But she's always been openly Catholic, but she's not paid attention.

00:33:01.000 But to see, like...

00:33:03.000 A celebrity from her position, like Mark Wahlberg we get.

00:33:07.000 Mark Wahlberg has been deeply religious for a long time and people know that.

00:33:10.000 And you mentioned that.

00:33:12.000 But people are feeling like that along with the Apple commercial and the Volvo commercial, that a major shift is towards the right.

00:33:22.000 It's not walking on minefields anymore.

00:33:24.000 And that's like the thing that I noticed about...

00:33:27.000 I wrote this whole long piece of the American Conservative magazine about the 2024 election.

00:33:31.000 And part of it is like when Trump went to UFC fights and people were fighting...

00:33:35.000 Celebrities were fighting for selfies with him.

00:33:38.000 I think that that was a major cultural turning point where people were like, oh, it's not bad anymore.

00:33:44.000 I could say this out loud and it's not going to be scary or cancelable or whatever.

00:33:48.000 And I think that that was – I think that's a big part of it for sure.

00:33:52.000 It's kind of crazy how it all changed.

00:33:53.000 It changed fast because BLM – It was insane.

00:33:58.000 It was insane. 0.98

00:34:00.000 BLM was so nutty. 1.00

00:34:02.000 You ever go through a traumatic experience, and then after it's over, you take care of someone who's very sick, and then they die, and then after it's over, you're like, that was insane that I lived like that, because that was nuts.

00:34:12.000 This is kind of like what we're having afterwards.

00:34:14.000 When I was on scene one time with, what's his face?

00:34:19.000 Van Jones.

00:34:20.000 No, not that one.

00:34:20.000 Van Jones.

00:34:21.000 Ann Jones.

00:34:21.000 Ann Jones goes, yeah, my party was really crazy in 2020. I go, but why?

00:34:26.000 It was crazy because of BLM. And you sat there and said all the criminals need to go free.

00:34:30.000 And we could burn down buildings. 0.94

00:34:31.000 And everything was okay.

00:34:33.000 And you co-signed criminality.

00:34:35.000 And for a lot of minorities who are not lawbreakers and who want to own a store or whatever it is, they were like, I'm not really down with this. 1.00

00:34:45.000 I'm not really going to be this party.

00:34:46.000 Let's jump to this story from Fox News.

00:34:49.000 Caitlin Clark admits feeling privilege as a white person.

00:34:52.000 Says WNBA was built on black players.

00:34:55.000 Yeah, men.

00:34:56.000 She got featured on Time Magazine as athlete of the year.

00:35:02.000 And then, of course, because there's a target on her back for being at the top, she immediately pulls this, please, please, leftists, don't beat me up anymore. 1.00

00:35:13.000 And it is particularly cringe.

00:35:15.000 The sad thing about this is that she was generally viewed favorably by everybody, conservatives, liberals, whatever.

00:35:20.000 Now she's just basically taken a political stance. 0.99

00:35:23.000 And weirdly, it's the losing political stance as the Republicans just swept everything. 0.99

00:35:28.000 She's also getting the crap kicked out of her. 1.00

00:35:30.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.99

00:35:30.000 She's like, please don't beat me anymore. 0.99

00:35:32.000 I mean, she's actually getting physically beaten on the... 0.95

00:35:35.000 Well, this is not going to help.

00:35:36.000 No, there's no way. 0.99

00:35:37.000 It's a bunch of angry lesbians beating the hell out of her because she's a pretty straight white girl. 1.00

00:35:41.000 I mean, that's exactly what we're watching. 0.99

00:35:42.000 She's like, please don't beat me anymore.

00:35:45.000 Well, it's not going to change.

00:35:46.000 I mean, we're going to have this for generations, right?

00:35:49.000 We're going to have the millennials start it off. 1.00

00:35:50.000 We're going to have Gen Z and then Alpha.

00:35:53.000 They've all been institutionalized to believe that white privilege is a thing, that all this woke ideology is a thing.

00:35:58.000 The normies will believe this kind of thing.

00:36:00.000 I bet you she did not write this statement.

00:36:02.000 I bet you a PR company did.

00:36:04.000 And they said, this is the way you handle this.

00:36:06.000 And this is the statement you have to give.

00:36:08.000 Because she doesn't.

00:36:09.000 Ever speak of politics.

00:36:09.000 And I think, I might be wrong on this, but I think she used to like Instagram posts that were Trump friendly and people had a big outrage towards that as well.

00:36:17.000 Yeah, there's no...

00:36:18.000 She could consider perhaps growing a spine.

00:36:21.000 I mean...

00:36:22.000 It probably got knocked out of her door on the court. 0.99

00:36:24.000 I mean, that's...

00:36:25.000 You know, man, sometimes having a spine means getting your spine kicked. 0.64

00:36:30.000 Unless she believes it.

00:36:31.000 Like I said, all these people have been taught this for years and years.

00:36:33.000 Their whole growing up-ness.

00:36:35.000 I don't think she actually believed it.

00:36:37.000 I think that her PR company was like, we'll take care.

00:36:39.000 This is our job.

00:36:40.000 We know what we're doing.

00:36:41.000 Look at how much we helped you.

00:36:42.000 You're this big celebrity.

00:36:43.000 And they wrote something and she probably was like, all right, that sounds good.

00:36:46.000 I don't think that she's a particularly political person.

00:36:49.000 Well, you could be kind of.

00:36:50.000 This is the problem with wokeness in institution and industry and sports or whatever is that Nobody wants you to be. 1.00

00:36:58.000 The culty people do.

00:36:59.000 They would demand it.

00:37:00.000 But she could have just not entered the fray of the culture war and she decided, hey, I'm not a very political person and I've got people on left and right who actually are cheering for me.

00:37:09.000 I'm going to ruin all of that and scream one of the most fringe political ideologies I can.

00:37:14.000 I think that Ryan's right.

00:37:15.000 She's probably getting beat up and not physically beat up. 1.00

00:37:19.000 She is physically getting beaten up.

00:37:21.000 They've been tacking her on the court. 0.89

00:37:22.000 They've been literally pummeling this poor girl. 1.00

00:37:25.000 And her teammates don't stand up for her.

00:37:26.000 They let it happen. 0.99

00:37:28.000 It's ridiculous. 0.52

00:37:29.000 And she's making like $40,000 a year. 1.00

00:37:31.000 She's going to need that back surgery that Luigi had pretty soon. 1.00

00:37:35.000 And she's not getting the money to do it because she's making $50,000 a year as a WWE player. 1.00

00:37:38.000 She has endorsements.

00:37:39.000 Oh, I know, I know.

00:37:39.000 But still, I mean, she's the most famous WN player I think who's ever lived at this point.

00:37:44.000 I don't know.

00:37:44.000 I can't name another one.

00:37:45.000 I can't name a single one.

00:37:46.000 I can't name a single WN player.

00:37:48.000 No one cares about the WNBA. No, but she made it interesting, and the fights made it interesting, and yeah. 1.00

00:37:55.000 Can you, off the top of my head, Venus and Serena Williams, like top female athletes. 0.99

00:38:01.000 Mia Hamm, was that her name?

00:38:02.000 No, no, she was like a soccer player. 1.00

00:38:03.000 I know.

00:38:04.000 And Venus and Serena were tennis players.

00:38:06.000 I'm sorry.

00:38:06.000 I'm saying, how many top female athletes can you name?

00:38:11.000 Patrick and Rachel.

00:38:12.000 There was the pink-haired soccer player.

00:38:14.000 I don't know her name.

00:38:17.000 Megan Rapinoe.

00:38:19.000 I don't know anything about her.

00:38:19.000 The woman from the 80s.

00:38:20.000 Billie Jean King.

00:38:21.000 Okay, I got one. 0.91

00:38:23.000 The other lesbian who's... 1.00

00:38:26.000 I don't know.

00:38:27.000 I mean, Venus and Serena is the easiest because they're some of the greatest athletes of all time.

00:38:32.000 Yeah, I mean, for women.

00:38:33.000 For women.

00:38:33.000 Yeah.

00:38:35.000 For girls, they're great.

00:38:36.000 Oh, the swimmer.

00:38:36.000 Riley Gaines.

00:38:37.000 I know her.

00:38:37.000 I met her.

00:38:38.000 So there you go.

00:38:38.000 I got one other one.

00:38:39.000 I mean, but yeah, there's not a time.

00:38:41.000 But is Riley like a world's best Olympian level top tier?

00:38:45.000 No, but...

00:38:45.000 Oh, Simone Bowles.

00:38:46.000 Simone Bowles.

00:38:47.000 Simone Bowles.

00:38:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:49.000 She's super good. 0.99

00:38:50.000 She's killer. 1.00

00:38:50.000 She's very, very... 1.00

00:38:51.000 She had a nervous breakdown.

00:38:51.000 She couldn't compete, but she is very good.

00:38:53.000 Oh, and what's her face who turned into that floozy? 1.00

00:38:56.000 Oh.

00:38:57.000 The gymnast.

00:38:58.000 We turned into a floozy.

00:39:00.000 What's her name?

00:39:01.000 Don, off the top of my head.

00:39:03.000 I don't know.

00:39:04.000 Yeah, I don't know what her name is.

00:39:06.000 Is floozy the wrong word?

00:39:07.000 No, I don't know.

00:39:07.000 Maybe she's a floozy.

00:39:08.000 Yeah, it's a good word.

00:39:10.000 I, uh...

00:39:11.000 Oh, Michaela Maroney.

00:39:12.000 I don't know who that she is. 1.00

00:39:13.000 Yeah, she just started doing Instagram content or whatever.

00:39:17.000 Maybe I'm wrong about that and I should apologize because I don't know what I'm talking about.

00:39:21.000 We're not really killing on the female athletes list. 1.00

00:39:25.000 They're going to be like five guys in a room of misogynist patriarchists.

00:39:30.000 Maria Sarapova.

00:39:31.000 She was a huge member.

00:39:33.000 She was the tennis player.

00:39:34.000 Navratilova.

00:39:35.000 Navratilova, yes, because she talks about all the women's stuff. 0.98

00:39:37.000 She wants women's sports. 1.00

00:39:39.000 We're killing it.

00:39:40.000 How many WNBA? Oh, zero. 0.98

00:39:45.000 There's not a chance.

00:39:46.000 Dana Terezi.

00:39:48.000 She's one of the OGs. 1.00

00:39:50.000 Did you just look that up?

00:39:51.000 No, no, I knew that one.

00:39:52.000 Okay, I didn't know that.

00:39:53.000 No, she's good.

00:39:53.000 I swear to God, she's good.

00:39:55.000 Okay.

00:39:56.000 I mean, wasn't there only one dunk in the whole history of the WMA? Yeah, that was that tall lady. 1.00

00:40:03.000 Why don't they?

00:40:03.000 They can't dunk?

00:40:04.000 They can't dunk.

00:40:05.000 They physically can't.

00:40:06.000 They can't physically can't.

00:40:07.000 Weird, they can only jump like one foot instead of two.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, there's only been one, I think, one dunk in the history of the WMA. Yes.

00:40:15.000 Isn't it like the hoop lower though?

00:40:16.000 I don't know.

00:40:17.000 I don't think so.

00:40:18.000 I think it's the same.

00:40:19.000 Only one dunk.

00:40:21.000 Yeah, so it's not...

00:40:22.000 Remember when that group of high school boys...

00:40:24.000 Yeah, 15-year-olds?

00:40:25.000 The 15-year-olds beat them.

00:40:27.000 Yeah, biology's real.

00:40:29.000 Yeah.

00:40:30.000 I mean, at the end of the day, biology's real.

00:40:33.000 You'll get in trouble for that one.

00:40:34.000 But it's true.

00:40:35.000 I skateboard, so I don't know much about basketball, football, or otherwise.

00:40:39.000 But I can tell you that major league sports don't bar women from playing in them. 1.00

00:40:45.000 Really?

00:40:45.000 They don't?

00:40:46.000 Yeah, a woman can try it for the NBA if she wants to. 1.00

00:40:48.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:40:48.000 Good luck.

00:40:49.000 That's why there have been women who've tried it for the NFL, as kickers. 1.00

00:40:52.000 Did they ever get it?

00:40:53.000 No.

00:40:53.000 Oh.

00:40:54.000 There are a few female kickers who are decent, and they've tried, and then, like, just flubbed it. 1.00

00:41:00.000 To answer your question, it was the best trade America has ever made for a hostage in the world would be Brittany Grimer.

00:41:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:07.000 The only one to ever dunk.

00:41:08.000 There you go.

00:41:09.000 She dunked? 1.00

00:41:10.000 Yeah, she dunked. 1.00

00:41:11.000 It says the only one who stands alone in 2024. She's a giant, too.

00:41:15.000 Yeah.

00:41:15.000 She has no marks.

00:41:16.000 Anyways, that's a whole different subject.

00:41:18.000 Okay, so yeah, there you go.

00:41:19.000 David Lucas was on here.

00:41:23.000 Yeah.

00:41:24.000 I will say this.

00:41:26.000 I can't speak to the other sports, but in skateboarding, the first 720 rotation, which you understand what that means, right?

00:41:32.000 360 times 10. Right.

00:41:33.000 So it was landed in, I think, I think it would have been the early 80s.

00:41:39.000 And the first female 720 was landed a couple years ago. 0.83

00:41:43.000 I think a couple years ago.

00:41:45.000 The first 900 rotation.

00:41:46.000 Is it because of the height you need to get to to do that?

00:41:48.000 I imagine you need to be high in the air to go around twice.

00:41:51.000 So it's on a vert ramp.

00:41:53.000 Well, let me say one more thing.

00:41:55.000 The first 900 rotation, of course, very famously Tony Hawk in 1999. So it's now been 25 years, and the first female 900 was ever completed 25 years later.

00:42:05.000 And the first 1080 spin was done by a 12-year-old boy.

00:42:10.000 No female has yet to accomplish a 1080 rotation.

00:42:13.000 Maybe they need to find a 10-year-old girl. 1.00

00:42:14.000 I mean, that's pretty wild.

00:42:16.000 I know more about the WNBA than I do about skating, so I'm completely at a loss.

00:42:21.000 I'm just using that to describe the gap in time it took for women to accomplish what men had done decades ago.

00:42:27.000 And for whatever reason it is, my point is that women were capable of doing it, but did not do it. 0.75

00:42:32.000 Okay.

00:42:33.000 Yeah, but is it because they never...

00:42:35.000 Right.

00:42:36.000 Tanya Harding is another...

00:42:38.000 Oh, sure, yeah.

00:42:39.000 Ice skating.

00:42:39.000 Nancy Kerrigan.

00:42:40.000 Sorry, Nancy Kerrigan.

00:42:41.000 We got...

00:42:41.000 Yeah, I'm just sorry.

00:42:42.000 Blanked in my head.

00:42:43.000 No, there are female... 1.00

00:42:44.000 Like, there's female figure skaters who do stuff, but is it a question of ability or creativity? 0.99

00:42:51.000 I would imagine it's more of ability.

00:42:53.000 Like, the median...

00:42:54.000 There's probably more...

00:42:57.000 Median, well, female ice skaters than men, but there's probably more amazing male ice skaters than females.

00:43:03.000 In my experience, watching male and female skateboarders, female skateboarders tend not to be able to jump. 1.00

00:43:07.000 Maybe that's why they can't dunk on the WNBA. I'd imagine. 1.00

00:43:12.000 Brave total, I apologize, in 2024 is only Brittany Grimer.

00:43:15.000 In all of WNBA, per Brave AI, 37 dunks in total.

00:43:20.000 Out of 27 years.

00:43:21.000 37 out of 27 years.

00:43:23.000 Wow.

00:43:24.000 Muggsy Bogues could do a 360 dunk, and he was 5'3".

00:43:26.000 He was awesome.

00:43:27.000 Brittany Griner's 6'9". 0.98

00:43:28.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:43:30.000 She can get 3 feet. 1.00

00:43:31.000 It's 3 foot.

00:43:32.000 She makes 3 foot vertical. 1.00

00:43:33.000 Well, actually, no, not even a 3 foot vertical.

00:43:35.000 Her arms are... 0.90

00:43:35.000 Her arms are like... 0.90

00:43:37.000 It means like a 1 foot jump to be able to do it.

00:43:41.000 What were we talking about again?

00:43:42.000 Oh yeah, wokeness.

00:43:43.000 Wokeness.

00:43:43.000 So I'll just bring it back to the article and just say it's kind of funny for Caitlin Cox to say this when it's on the way out.

00:43:48.000 Right.

00:43:49.000 We just saw the massive wave towards Trump and against this, and she's like, I'll go the other direction.

00:43:54.000 I think it's probably a PR firm.

00:43:55.000 And I just think that she...

00:43:57.000 Listen, she... 0.98

00:43:58.000 I mean, it's not easy, especially when there's a racial... 0.99

00:44:02.000 View of everything that she does because she is a white woman in a black sport with a black audience predominantly, I imagine. 0.92

00:44:08.000 I would love to know actually where the revenue of the WEA comes from.

00:44:12.000 Is it primarily a black audience?

00:44:13.000 It knows everything, doesn't it?

00:44:14.000 Yeah, it does.

00:44:15.000 Rock.

00:44:15.000 Is it mostly a black audience or a white audience that pays for all the tickets and stuff like that?

00:44:19.000 That's a lot.

00:44:20.000 It's all offset.

00:44:21.000 It's all subsidy.

00:44:22.000 There's no audience at all.

00:44:23.000 Nobody watches it.

00:44:24.000 It's all finance.

00:44:25.000 People watched it when she was playing, though, in the college.

00:44:27.000 No, those are just family members.

00:44:29.000 She's got so many family members.

00:44:31.000 All the players' family members show up.

00:44:34.000 You know when a high school band is trying to play a show, they just bring all their friends and family to pay the five bucks to come in so they can do the show?

00:44:41.000 That's what it's like.

00:44:41.000 That's the WNBA. But there's got to be some viewership.

00:44:45.000 You had seven pay-per-view viewers today.

00:44:47.000 It was mom, dad, brother, sister.

00:44:50.000 We're just ragging on the WNBA now just because it's funny. 1.00

00:44:52.000 It is funny.

00:44:53.000 So Grok says that it's a mix of individual fans, season ticket holders, groups and organizations, and resale market.

00:45:01.000 I wonder if the demographic is mostly...

00:45:03.000 Probably there's a lot of black audience doing that, and so she feels like this is what they have to do.

00:45:08.000 I don't know if I agree, because...

00:45:10.000 Daytime TV is overwhelmingly black female viewers.

00:45:13.000 Really?

00:45:14.000 And that's WNBA's Daytime TV? No, but that's why you see the casting of daytime TV being what it is, is because it used to be, 30 years ago, a lot of stay-at-home moms in the white suburbs doing that, and that's why it's soap operas. 1.00

00:45:28.000 Now, it is primarily a black female audience.

00:45:31.000 It's overwhelmingly, and that's why I do know that for a fact, and that's why the daytime TV looks the way it does, and the politics the way it is.

00:45:39.000 Maybe she's just like, this is what your demos look like.

00:45:44.000 It's...

00:45:45.000 I mean, this is a whole different subject.

00:45:46.000 Is that because a lot of them have...

00:45:48.000 They're not working?

00:45:50.000 I don't know why that's the audience.

00:45:53.000 I do know that's the audience.

00:45:55.000 And that's the audience for the view.

00:45:56.000 And that's why the views...

00:45:57.000 Topics have changed.

00:45:58.000 That's why their politics have changed.

00:46:00.000 That's why there's so many judge shows. 0.96

00:46:01.000 They're cheaper to make, too.

00:46:02.000 But that's why there's so many judge shows. 0.68

00:46:04.000 That's the demo that sits there and feeds into those things.

00:46:08.000 So I don't know.

00:46:08.000 But that is why...

00:46:09.000 I imagine part of it is sitting there and saying, Caitlin, your audience is...

00:46:14.000 50% black women or whatever. 1.00

00:46:15.000 So you want to sit there and toe the line and keep pushing on this?

00:46:18.000 Possibly.

00:46:19.000 I don't know.

00:46:19.000 This is a spoiler for sponsorships.

00:46:22.000 Yeah, if it's like, what's her face?

00:46:25.000 Who was the transgender... 1.00

00:46:27.000 Dylan Mulvaney?

00:46:28.000 Dylan Mulvaney.

00:46:28.000 Yeah, I mean, Dylan Mulvaney...

00:46:31.000 There will be, by the way, there will be...

00:46:32.000 Blood Light is not going to recover.

00:46:34.000 There will be an economics course, hopefully one day, like Harvard Business School, saying how to ruin a very successful business, and it will be all about Dylan Mulvaney's endorsement.

00:46:42.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:43.000 And a response to it.

00:46:45.000 No, in a real world, they should be teaching business courses of how to ruin a company.

00:46:51.000 Indeed.

00:46:52.000 Well, let's move on.

00:46:53.000 Let's jump to the story from Fox News.

00:46:55.000 Daniel Penny's lawyers weighing malicious prosecution lawsuit after trial.

00:47:00.000 Collusion from the very beginning.

00:47:02.000 I'd like to start this by first, those aren't familiar, I think everybody knows.

00:47:06.000 Jordan Neely was a well-known violent criminal who had rejected treatment, who appeared in a train threatening people.

00:47:14.000 Daniel Penny had subdued him in the process.

00:47:17.000 Jordan Ely ended up dying after the fact.

00:47:19.000 Penny just recently was acquitted.

00:47:21.000 But as many people, they're somewhat aware.

00:47:24.000 I have a question for all of you guys.

00:47:26.000 Can you name the other man who held down Jordan Ely?

00:47:31.000 No.

00:47:31.000 Negative.

00:47:32.000 I don't know. 0.91

00:47:33.000 I know he's black. 0.66

00:47:33.000 You have to Google it. 0.66

00:47:34.000 I know his name is Gonzalez.

00:47:36.000 That's all I know.

00:47:37.000 Oh, he's close.

00:47:39.000 Oh.

00:47:39.000 Eric Gonzalez.

00:47:40.000 Eric.

00:47:40.000 The black man who held down Jordan Ely and didn't get charged.

00:47:43.000 So it sounds to me like Daniel Penny may actually have a malicious prosecution lawsuit.

00:47:47.000 There should be some kind of recourse where if your life is destroyed by a political DA somewhere, you should have some kind of recourse to sue them.

00:47:55.000 I mean, I don't know what that would be like.

00:47:58.000 I'm sure you could sue the city.

00:47:59.000 You can't sue the DA personally because there's protection.

00:48:01.000 Oh, it says they're going to sue him.

00:48:02.000 The lawsuit would target DA Alvin Bragg and the medical examiner's office.

00:48:05.000 I mean, who do you target in a malicious prosecution anyway?

00:48:08.000 Yeah, but the DAs have protective immunity, so I don't know if they can.

00:48:12.000 Do they?

00:48:12.000 I know cops do.

00:48:14.000 I'm almost 100% sure.

00:48:15.000 You wouldn't know more than me.

00:48:17.000 If the DAs don't have protective immunity, I would be shocked considering how many would have already been personally sued and had their house taken away.

00:48:24.000 That would be hard to sit there and say how they could sue him personally, but he could definitely sue the city.

00:48:32.000 It says his team is eyeing a malicious prosecution lawsuit against DA Alvin Bragg and others behind the charges, turning the tables.

00:48:41.000 Quote, they knew they weren't going to be able to get him, so they had to get rid of that top count in order to get that second count just in hopes that maybe they could pull out a win here.

00:48:48.000 Do you know that Daniel Penny is also Italian?

00:48:52.000 As a fellow Italian, it has been highs and lows this week as far as people making the news.

00:48:58.000 Among my people, yeah.

00:48:59.000 Maybe you should call the family.

00:49:00.000 I don't know what's going on, but we've had ups and downs.

00:49:05.000 Yeah, I hope he's successful.

00:49:08.000 I don't know how he would do it, but I hope he's successful because he was ripped his whole life, even forever, no matter what he does.

00:49:15.000 He could cure cancer, and it will be next to his name, the guy who did the chokehold.

00:49:21.000 Did you see what the corporate press has been saying?

00:49:23.000 There was one like a print paper and it said Marina quit it after strangling Subway Dancer or something like that.

00:49:30.000 Yeah.

00:49:30.000 Unreal.

00:49:31.000 It's just strange.

00:49:32.000 Yeah, but where does he go to get his life back?

00:49:34.000 Really?

00:49:34.000 I mean, that's the thing about the internet.

00:49:35.000 There's no way to ever go back to your normal life.

00:49:39.000 You can never have a normal life.

00:49:40.000 Even if he moves to like a red state or red county, you can never have a normal life again.

00:49:43.000 That will follow your kids for the rest of their lives.

00:49:47.000 Everything.

00:49:47.000 I mean, and it was clearly all nonsense.

00:49:50.000 Well, he could solve this easily.

00:49:52.000 Oh.

00:49:53.000 If he transitions and gets a new name, then no one's going to know.

00:49:56.000 Daniela?

00:49:57.000 Daniela.

00:49:58.000 Well, that's a little on the nose.

00:50:00.000 That's what they usually do.

00:50:01.000 Maybe he can change his name to Jordan.

00:50:04.000 Penny?

00:50:05.000 Neely?

00:50:06.000 I mean, yeah.

00:50:08.000 And then put on a dress.

00:50:10.000 And dance.

00:50:11.000 No, but that's a good—I mean, listen, I hope he's successful.

00:50:13.000 So this is—not to, like, just shift too dramatically, but this is an interesting conversation that came up.

00:50:18.000 I can't remember what podcast I was listening to.

00:50:19.000 They were talking about how that trans youth may be a result of being unable to escape the internet.

00:50:27.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 So imagine this.

00:50:30.000 You're a teenager and someone films you at a party or whatever and embarrasses you and ruins your life.

00:50:37.000 Everyone's making fun of you and they keep sharing the video and you can't escape it.

00:50:41.000 You want to change your name.

00:50:42.000 You want to be someone else.

00:50:43.000 It's dark.

00:50:44.000 And yeah, so not that it's an absolute reason of all trans youth, but that the concern is that there are young women who are deeply embarrassed, deeply impacted by social issues, get mocked and made fun of for something in school, and then are told you can change your name, change your appearance, get surgery and be someone else and move to a new school if you do this.

00:51:02.000 The UK just banned hormone blockers.

00:51:04.000 Yeah.

00:51:06.000 It's definitely...

00:51:08.000 That's the one thing they've been actually pushing for a long time that's actually conservative.

00:51:11.000 But the thing is, it's clearly a social contagion.

00:51:15.000 There's absolutely no way it's not a social contagion.

00:51:19.000 Strangling subway dancers or...

00:51:21.000 Not being trans. 1.00

00:51:22.000 As a child.

00:51:23.000 But the thing, the difference is, you're around my age, so I'm 37. When you were getting picked up in school, when you had an embarrassing incident, when you did something...

00:51:30.000 It left in school that day and you went home and it didn't follow you.

00:51:34.000 And now with the phone, it follows you.

00:51:36.000 And a big part of that is, you know, I don't know.

00:51:40.000 There's no escape.

00:51:41.000 There's no escape.

00:51:42.000 It literally follows you.

00:51:43.000 In Australia, they just banned apps for people under 16. I think we should, yeah. 1.00

00:51:50.000 I think you should only be allowed to have a phone, a smartphone after 16. And before that, it should be a dumb phone. 0.97

00:51:56.000 You know, I do a lot of things with school boards because I run the 1776 Project Pack. 0.78

00:52:00.000 We do school board elections.

00:52:01.000 And the number one school board trend that's happening in schools across the country, and this is blue and red, is the banning of cell phones in classrooms.

00:52:09.000 Absolutely.

00:52:09.000 It's happening across— In the schools.

00:52:11.000 In the schools. 0.98

00:52:12.000 But dumb phones are fine if all they can do is make phone calls.

00:52:16.000 Are they texting? 0.99

00:52:16.000 As I said, just phone calls. 0.99

00:52:18.000 Texting is...

00:52:20.000 Do they have a rotary phone?

00:52:21.000 There's no reason to have phones.

00:52:23.000 They have phones that they make for kids where...

00:52:25.000 Right, in general.

00:52:25.000 It can dial and it can't make texts.

00:52:27.000 Really?

00:52:28.000 I know that.

00:52:29.000 I thought it was just texting.

00:52:29.000 There was an e-ink phone that came out a while ago that all it does is make phone calls.

00:52:34.000 And they target it for elderly people.

00:52:36.000 Right.

00:52:37.000 But I think they should need...

00:52:38.000 Parents...

00:52:39.000 You can lock the phones, you can get them, and you can disable it, but the kid's gonna figure out how to get it.

00:52:43.000 Well, you know what?

00:52:43.000 It's the problem is the parents are oftentimes in the classrooms, one saying, no, you have to have my kid's phone on because I need to get a hold of him at all times.

00:52:49.000 And it's this mass anxiety by parents, which is nonsense.

00:52:52.000 Did you hear that story of the mother who got arrested because her 11-year-old was walking to the bodega?

00:52:57.000 Yes.

00:52:58.000 What's going on?

00:52:58.000 Like, let the kids just go do their thing, man.

00:53:01.000 When you realize how much more dangerous the world was when we were growing up in the early 90s versus now, and the paranoia compared to, and before that, what Gen Xers grew up in in the 70s, was like, it was far more dangerous.

00:53:16.000 Go outside and don't come back until the lights are on.

00:53:18.000 Yes, I was going to say, when I was, 30 years ago, my parents were like, you're grounded from inside the house.

00:53:23.000 Push me outside, close, say when the lights come on, come home.

00:53:25.000 My mom would kick me the F out.

00:53:27.000 Like, get out of here.

00:53:27.000 I'm trying to do something.

00:53:28.000 Come back later.

00:53:29.000 I'd get on my bike, and then I would ride around my friends' houses, and then when the lights came on, I'd ride home, and then I'd come home and we'd have dinner or something.

00:53:35.000 Yeah, but it's remarkably a much safer world than it was 50, 40, 30, 20 years ago.

00:53:39.000 And you would think that massacres are happening on every single block, the way that people are treating children.

00:53:45.000 And that elongates childhood.

00:53:48.000 There was a great book called Generations – I forget the author's name.

00:53:51.000 Gene Twiggy.

00:53:52.000 Twiggy, whatever her last name is.

00:53:54.000 But it talked about how people are children well into their 20s now and have a child mindset.

00:54:01.000 So a 25-year-old now has the life experiences of a 15-year-old.

00:54:06.000 And I have some relatives like this who are in their early 20s who – I mean, I did more at 16 than they did at 21, and they have no ambition to even do that, which I think is part of the breakdown.

00:54:15.000 Going back to the story of Luigi Mangione, look at his life.

00:54:21.000 The dude's institutionalized his whole life, and I don't mean like in a health care facility or something.

00:54:25.000 I'm saying he wakes up, goes to school as a little kid, then he goes to school as a teenager, then he goes to school as an adult, then he gets out and he's like, what is this?

00:54:32.000 What is this?

00:54:33.000 What is that?

00:54:34.000 He has no idea what's going on.

00:54:35.000 A 26-year-old, for hundreds of thousands of years of human development, a 26-year-old would be building their own house with a bunch of kids.

00:54:42.000 Now they're, I just finally got out of school and never had a job, and I'm 26.

00:54:48.000 Did he never have a job?

00:54:49.000 I don't know if literally he didn't, but he's an Ivy Leaguer who went to school and got his...

00:54:52.000 And was a valedictorian, too.

00:54:54.000 So you'd think he'd be running a company by now or founding one or doing something.

00:54:57.000 He has no work experience.

00:54:58.000 Yeah, it's odd.

00:54:59.000 It's really, really odd.

00:55:00.000 Also, Matt, he gave his valedictorian speech, which now imagine that was like your valedictorian was Luigi.

00:55:05.000 Like, where are they now in the 20-year reunions?

00:55:08.000 Just look at the current state of how kids are being raised, and let's project that out 20 years.

00:55:12.000 No, 100%.

00:55:13.000 People do not have that...

00:55:17.000 People made fun of millennials beyond belief because we liked avocado toast and imagine we were too much like children.

00:55:22.000 I love avocado toast.

00:55:24.000 It is great.

00:55:25.000 It is great.

00:55:25.000 People lost their minds because of that.

00:55:28.000 But anyway, they lost their minds off of avocados.

00:55:31.000 But that millennials being, I guess, young until we were 30, alphas, it will be until they're in their early 40s.

00:55:42.000 Do you think we can switch it back?

00:55:44.000 We're kind of like steering back towards the...

00:55:47.000 There was a story about how the number of wealthy white Americans who are going to colleges down, which I thought was very, very interesting.

00:55:56.000 And I think that maybe people, if they have the opportunity to do something else, are taking it.

00:56:03.000 Taking a level of risk is part of growing up.

00:56:05.000 Right?

00:56:06.000 We divorce people from risk.

00:56:08.000 That makes them children forever when you have everything decided for you.

00:56:11.000 So maybe by not going to school, maybe sitting there and having a risk of, like, I'm going to start a company.

00:56:15.000 I'm going to make a job.

00:56:16.000 I'm going to do something for myself.

00:56:19.000 Maybe that will make them grow up.

00:56:20.000 I don't know.

00:56:20.000 But that would be part of it where you sit there and say, you know, I think divorcing from social media is part of it.

00:56:26.000 Kids need jobs.

00:56:28.000 Yeah.

00:56:28.000 That's why we can't let robots take over everything.

00:56:30.000 Kids need jobs, like mowing the lawn. 0.99

00:56:32.000 And a couple years ago, I said kids need jobs.

00:56:35.000 And we were talking about, there was some bill that would allow kids under the age of 16 to work for like 12 hours at certain jobs or whatever, and the left lost their money.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, I know.

00:56:43.000 I told that, yes.

00:56:44.000 They were like, you could work at like a Chick-fil-A for like, you know, I guess it was like 20 hours a week, 24 hours a week, which is, it's a lot.

00:56:49.000 And you're like, it was for like 14 and 15 year olds.

00:56:52.000 Yeah.

00:56:52.000 And they're like, oh, child labor.

00:56:54.000 And I'm like...

00:56:54.000 How old were you when you had your first job?

00:56:56.000 Uh, nine.

00:56:57.000 Nine?

00:56:58.000 Yeah, my family owned a coffee shop.

00:56:59.000 Oh.

00:57:00.000 That's right.

00:57:00.000 And kids need jobs.

00:57:02.000 Before that, I mowed lawn and raked leaves.

00:57:04.000 You'd get a rake, you'd go to the house, you knock on the door, can I rake your leaf for five bucks?

00:57:07.000 And they'd be like, yeah, sure.

00:57:08.000 Yeah, we used to shovel snow for like 20 bucks at people's houses.

00:57:11.000 That was like, when it was good snow season as a kid, you're like, we are making bank right now.

00:57:15.000 I was delivering newspapers in a vocal PA at 6 with my brothers.

00:57:19.000 Now kids are sitting around playing video games, going to school, and then they are 22 and they've never had a job before.

00:57:24.000 That's crazy.

00:57:24.000 And they look up to Bernie Sanders, who also never had a job.

00:57:28.000 Wait, that's true, right?

00:57:29.000 Yeah.

00:57:30.000 Yeah.

00:57:30.000 And his wife made a university go bankrupt, which I did not think was possible.

00:57:33.000 It did.

00:57:34.000 His wife at the university did go bankrupt.

00:57:36.000 That's based.

00:57:37.000 All those guys.

00:57:38.000 That's based.

00:57:39.000 I guess.

00:57:40.000 I don't think she meant it.

00:57:41.000 I think it was like, buy it.

00:57:42.000 Whatever her intentions were, the outcome was good.

00:57:45.000 Yeah.

00:57:45.000 And he has three homes.

00:57:46.000 And he's a millionaire.

00:57:47.000 So, I mean, only in America could a socialist make so much money.

00:57:51.000 Well, he stopped pointing at millionaires, too, as soon as...

00:57:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:54.000 As soon as he became a millionaire, he dropped the word millionaire from all his speeches.

00:57:58.000 Really?

00:57:58.000 Yep.

00:57:59.000 He used to go, the millionaires and the billionaires in this country.

00:58:02.000 And then he became a millionaire and he started saying the billionaires.

00:58:05.000 Really?

00:58:05.000 I did not realize that he dropped millionaire from his little verbiage.

00:58:08.000 It's just billionaires now.

00:58:09.000 And I was like, Bernie, look, there's a difference between a millionaire and a guy with $999 million, okay?

00:58:14.000 Like, you're allowed to say the millionaires.

00:58:15.000 If you're 60 and you bought a house in a good neighborhood in Austin or whatever, and now it's worth $3 million, you're a multi-millionaire, but you could be a car salesman and just be making a decent living.

00:58:27.000 The right investment.

00:58:28.000 Yeah, the right investment will change everything like that.

00:58:31.000 Yeah, but these socialists have no idea what they're talking about, hence they are defending Neely, and they defend the bad guys in every...

00:58:41.000 But isn't it always true, or most of the time true, that the biggest radicals in history are always from the wealthy class?

00:58:49.000 They're never usually poor people.

00:58:50.000 I mean, that is true.

00:58:52.000 It's been all over Europe, too.

00:58:54.000 So it would make sense that this Luigi kid who never apparently really worked that much, even though he went to school and got... 0.76

00:59:02.000 He's not smart.

00:59:04.000 Maybe in engineering. 0.98

00:59:05.000 Listen, yes, his manifesto was nonsense.

00:59:08.000 Maybe he knows how to engineer.

00:59:09.000 I don't know.

00:59:10.000 I don't know engineering.

00:59:11.000 So what am I supposed to sit there and say?

00:59:12.000 It's like when he said, we have the most expensive healthcare in the world, but our life expectancy is super low.

00:59:17.000 I was like, oh my god.

00:59:19.000 I bought a car from the car dealership and it was too expensive.

00:59:22.000 My gas prices are so high.

00:59:24.000 It's like, those are not correlated things.

00:59:25.000 He did mention obesity now, right?

00:59:27.000 No.

00:59:28.000 But a great point brought up by Jeremy Kaufman is like, We're good to go.

00:59:40.000 Comparable.

00:59:41.000 But it's funny how healthcare is the one thing that they have this belief of...

00:59:47.000 They don't blame the doctors.

00:59:48.000 They don't blame the nurses. 0.99

00:59:52.000 They only blame the insurance agents.

00:59:54.000 When it's really the government because it's the most regulated industry in the United States.

00:59:59.000 And subsidized.

01:00:00.000 I remember in 2006, I needed health insurance or something, and I bought it on a website for $250 or $300 a month.

01:00:10.000 And now that's almost impossible to do for less than $1,500 a month.

01:00:16.000 What I pay for in health insurance for me and my employees is crazy high.

01:00:20.000 And it wasn't before Obamacare.

01:00:22.000 There was no way it was this high before Obamacare.

01:00:24.000 Obamacare screwed everything.

01:00:26.000 It was supposed to fix all the problems, and all it did was it allowed the insurance companies to write their own rules...

01:00:35.000 the health insurance industry.

01:00:37.000 It made prices skyrocket.

01:00:40.000 The argument was prices are going to go up, then they're going to come down once people start buying into the system and stuff.

01:00:46.000 But they never came down because the most subsidized and most regulated industry in America is the United States, or in the United States is healthcare.

01:00:56.000 I made this argument multiple times this week already.

01:00:58.000 If you get rid of subsidizing it, there's no reason for your healthcare to be attached to your job.

01:01:04.000 You should have the money, obviously, to pay for healthcare, but you shouldn't have to have a job to be able to go to the doctor.

01:01:11.000 Well, that was the whole FDR thing.

01:01:13.000 FDR was the one who pushed for healthcare and jobs to be connected.

01:01:15.000 No, sorry, he didn't push it.

01:01:17.000 When he was president, because taxes were so high, companies offered health insurance instead of raises.

01:01:22.000 Yeah, we talked about that last night, too.

01:01:23.000 But the argument that it should just be free is BS. There needs to be a market, and that's the only way prices are going to go down.

01:01:31.000 Maybe I'm wrong with this, but didn't the number of insurance agencies diminish since Obamacare?

01:01:38.000 Yes, yes.

01:01:38.000 It is almost like the military, where the number of, not the military, but the people who supply military supplies has decreased substantially over the last 20 years.

01:01:47.000 It's the same thing that happened with the banks after Too Big to Fail.

01:01:51.000 There used to be multiple smaller banks, and they all got eaten up by a handful of bigger banks.

01:01:56.000 Right.

01:01:56.000 We don't want the government to go into an industry and have massive regulation.

01:02:01.000 You have to let the markets do it.

01:02:03.000 And when people do things that make their business fail, the government can't come in and save them.

01:02:09.000 Yeah, my buddy Ann Coulter always said if tarot card readers had a lobby, they would be covered by insurance.

01:02:13.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:02:14.000 Let's jump to the story from the Daily Wire.

01:02:16.000 The first thing I want to say is we routinely cover the demise of CNN and other cable news networks.

01:02:21.000 Amen.

01:02:22.000 And I wanted to make a joke about beating a dead horse, but it feels a little too close to literal in this regard because CNN is dying.

01:02:28.000 But CNN falls to Food Network Hallmark channels in ratings battle following Trump victory.

01:02:34.000 The ratings are so bad they're now beneath Hallmark.

01:02:39.000 Wow.

01:02:40.000 The evening lineup averaged a total of 367,000 total viewers between 8 to 11. In comparison, Fox averaged 2.5 million.

01:02:48.000 Understand, that is not key demo.

01:02:51.000 That's overall 367?

01:02:53.000 Yeah, their key demo is 67,000.

01:02:55.000 Brutal.

01:02:56.000 Guys, we have more than that watching the show on average live, let alone the total viewership.

01:03:01.000 People's tweets have more viewership.

01:03:04.000 CNN hosts get more visibility from tweeting their stories than from being on air, which is also crazy why they're all making seven figures, or in the case of Anderson Cooper.

01:03:13.000 It's actually pretty crazy, too.

01:03:14.000 Fox News, in comparison, had 280,000 viewers during the key demo, and that's pretty nuts because we, as well as a lot of other shows, are absolutely crushing that.

01:03:24.000 The scary thing is, to understand, while an episode of Tim Kest IRL may end up with about 600,000 to 700,000 viewers every night, It used to be that the top shows were getting 5 to 10 million in the key demo, but now it's completely decentralized.

01:03:40.000 So there's some good there and some bad there.

01:03:42.000 The good is that decentralization is largely healthier for a media diet, but it also means that...

01:03:48.000 My concern right now is that Fox, Disney, Comcast.

01:03:51.000 Comcast, everyone's like, oh, they're dumping all these big channels, right?

01:03:54.000 Yeah, but Comcast isn't going to sit back and go, guess we lose.

01:03:56.000 They're going to say, how do we buy into the space on YouTube?

01:03:59.000 And then if they come into the space, you know, I look at what we've got here, and I was talking to friends about it.

01:04:04.000 I'm like, we're like an indie label.

01:04:05.000 We're like, we're a privateer.

01:04:07.000 The East India Trading Company is around the corner.

01:04:09.000 When they come in and claim the high seas, we're going to get crushed.

01:04:12.000 Right, if you could watch...

01:04:13.000 If you're a big Fox News fan and you can't afford cable, but you can afford a YouTube, and they just did the ads on YouTube, if they could figure out a way to make it easy to watch it without a subscription, you could 1,000 percent.

01:04:24.000 Jesse Waters would have tons of viewers.

01:04:26.000 Well, they do.

01:04:26.000 They put the segments up, but it's not just that.

01:04:29.000 If you could watch it live on YouTube, if you could watch it.

01:04:33.000 It's on YouTube TV if you're paying the subscription.

01:04:35.000 What I'm saying is Fox is going to say...

01:04:39.000 Jesse, we're launching your YouTube podcast.

01:04:41.000 And we're going to put $20 million in your first year behind it in marketing because we are reclaiming the space.

01:04:46.000 Well, and then MSNBC is not going to just die off.

01:04:49.000 Comcast is going to go to YouTube and say, we think you guys should have a prominently displayed featured channels bar when people go to YouTube.com and we'll pay you $100 million a year to be on that.

01:04:59.000 But think about the top 10 biggest conservative talents in America right now.

01:05:03.000 How many got their start from Fox News?

01:05:06.000 Tim?

01:05:06.000 Yeah.

01:05:07.000 I mean...

01:05:08.000 It was a joke.

01:05:09.000 No, I thought he was asking a question.

01:05:12.000 No, Fox News produced probably seven of the top ten, eight of the top ten.

01:05:17.000 Tucker?

01:05:18.000 Tucker, Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck.

01:05:19.000 But Tucker was on a bunch of channels before Fox News.

01:05:21.000 But he became a conservative titan when he was on Fox.

01:05:26.000 Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck.

01:05:27.000 You could go...

01:05:28.000 What?

01:05:29.000 Is Coulter one of them?

01:05:30.000 Ann?

01:05:31.000 No, but it never worked for Fox News.

01:05:32.000 But O'Reilly's podcast is gigantic.

01:05:36.000 Is it really?

01:05:37.000 It's huge.

01:05:38.000 It's very big.

01:05:39.000 I don't know if it's in the top ten, but it's on the list of the top 50 of political podcasts, the last time I checked.

01:05:44.000 Well, top political podcasts or top podcasts?

01:05:48.000 It's up there.

01:05:49.000 But the point is...

01:05:50.000 I think he's medium.

01:05:53.000 Okay.

01:05:54.000 Well, whatever.

01:05:54.000 He's mid.

01:05:55.000 The point is that if you could do that, if you could go directly before they go independent and they could get, I don't know, a cut of it, yeah, there's no reason.

01:06:03.000 Yeah, he is not a top podcast at all, actually.

01:06:06.000 Okay.

01:06:06.000 Which one, Bill?

01:06:07.000 We're talking about?

01:06:08.000 Bill?

01:06:08.000 Yeah, he is not in the top 200. Oh, wow.

01:06:11.000 What is this?

01:06:11.000 In news, he's number 42. Okay, that's where I saw him then.

01:06:15.000 In, yeah...

01:06:17.000 But that's a pretty, like, news is a limited field.

01:06:20.000 Right, but he's also been off the air for 15 years.

01:06:22.000 My point is that how many talent comes out of the Fox News world?

01:06:25.000 But out of the Fox News world, a lot of conservative talent comes out of that.

01:06:28.000 So before they go independent and they have the big enough audience to go independent, they can easily do that.

01:06:33.000 Yeah.

01:06:35.000 Indeed.

01:06:36.000 I mean, I don't know that Fox has produced that many of the big ones, but I mean, they've produced the biggest of the big.

01:06:46.000 They've produced a lot of big ones, though.

01:06:48.000 I mean, look at what Tucker Carlson did after Fox News.

01:06:52.000 He's probably the biggest person that's come out of Fox News, right?

01:06:55.000 Right now, yeah, but it's...

01:06:58.000 I mean, yeah, yes, right now, but the independent space is very young.

01:07:02.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:03.000 It's not like people have been doing this for 20 years about going on doing their own podcast.

01:07:07.000 Yeah, for right now, he's...

01:07:09.000 Him, Megyn Kelly's huge, Ben Shapiro had a lot of things on there.

01:07:14.000 Fox News definitely helped Ben Shapiro with his career.

01:07:17.000 Charlie Kirk appearing on Fox News several hundred times definitely helped his career.

01:07:21.000 A lot of people's careers have been immensely built.

01:07:24.000 Crowder was on Fox News, and they're having There isn't the same kind of boost from CNN and MSN. Tucker is number eight in the world.

01:07:31.000 When Jesse Waters used to talk about me being on CNN, more people had watched it from the Fox clip than from actually being on CNN. That was a regular thing.

01:07:40.000 I never got hate mail while I was on CNN because no one ever watched the network.

01:07:44.000 It was the clips on Twitter.

01:07:45.000 We are the 57th.

01:07:46.000 Nice.

01:07:48.000 On Apple, we're not 156, but for all platforms combined, 57. That's solid.

01:07:53.000 Tucker, I think, is 36 on Apple.

01:07:55.000 But Apple, actually, this is kind of wild.

01:07:57.000 When I first started, Apple was the big dog.

01:07:59.000 Now YouTube is the biggest player in podcasts.

01:08:01.000 Really?

01:08:01.000 Yeah, YouTube is.

01:08:02.000 And the ad dollars are all in YouTube now.

01:08:04.000 It's wild.

01:08:05.000 Why is it people because they have to watch it on camera or they listen to audio?

01:08:09.000 So video is heavily preferred now for the format.

01:08:12.000 Uh-huh.

01:08:12.000 So, obviously in the early days, you'd turn it on and listen to it and do other things.

01:08:16.000 Right.

01:08:16.000 But with the video option, it's called vodcasting.

01:08:20.000 For a lot of people now, it's just some people, when they have the choice, they'd rather watch a show like this with a video element to it.

01:08:27.000 Wow.

01:08:27.000 That's why Spotify edited it.

01:08:29.000 Apple, they owned the space and they really let it down.

01:08:32.000 And ad rates are dropping on the audio side and video side is starting to dominate.

01:08:36.000 It's pretty nuts what's happening on YouTube now.

01:08:39.000 And that's why my concern is, coming into this next year, We're all laughing, going, haha, Comcast is selling MSNBC. And it's like, bro, Comcast is going to turn around and say, we're launching a billion-dollar Endeavor into the podcasting space.

01:08:50.000 And they can walk into YouTube's executive office and say, how much money to cut all of these independent players out and give us the premium space?

01:08:58.000 We'll tell you this, YouTube.

01:08:59.000 You have a guarantee from us that all of the shows that run through our network will never violate advertisers and will get premium CPMs, which you get a cut on.

01:09:07.000 And they're going to be like, deal.

01:09:09.000 No longer does YouTube have to worry about demonetizing or dealing with some person saying a bunch of racial slurs.

01:09:15.000 They're going to be like, yeah, we'd rather just cut a deal.

01:09:18.000 So they're not going to have Joy Reid on.

01:09:20.000 Yeah, probably not her.

01:09:22.000 My fear is, I don't know that it's guaranteed, but there is a strong probability that YouTube will easily give corporate interest benefit to the big networks who buy in because they already did in the past.

01:09:32.000 In 2018, there was this fake news that was released accusing a bunch of different YouTubers of being part of a nefarious network that was aligned with white supremacy.

01:09:41.000 They claimed that this guy, Chris Raygun, for instance, who doesn't really make videos anymore.

01:09:45.000 He did video game and humor content, had collaborated with Richard Spencer.

01:09:49.000 The two had never met.

01:09:50.000 Didn't matter.

01:09:51.000 YouTube lost its mind and immediately removed all of the channels from the recommendation algorithm.

01:09:57.000 Instantly, every one of these channels that was either on the right or the left saw all of their channel recommendations turn into Fox and MSNBC or CNN.

01:10:05.000 So if you were a liberal leaning creator, YouTuber, and you make a video before 2018, you would see on the right side a whole bunch of your other videos.

01:10:15.000 After this PR campaign and adpocalypse, it turned into nothing but Fox News.

01:10:20.000 If you went to Joe Rogan, it would be Joe Rogan and Fox News.

01:10:23.000 And the autoplay is a big part of...

01:10:25.000 Exactly.

01:10:25.000 That was largely it, too.

01:10:27.000 When we would go into our analytics, you would see...

01:10:30.000 So here's a graph showing all the recommendations, and then this one day happened, and it all dropped down from like 18% to like 2%.

01:10:36.000 Wow.

01:10:37.000 So I've seen them do this.

01:10:40.000 And I tell you, I believe strongly when they're talking about Murdoch, the Murdoch family wanted to be in the podcasting space and Disney, Comcast may nuke MSNBC, but what that really means is they're going to come to the space right now, and you've heard the liberal channels on YouTube screaming, why aren't we getting funding from this?

01:10:57.000 Mm-hmm.

01:10:57.000 The Democratic Party is going to reassess and they're going to say, why didn't our media mechanism work?

01:11:01.000 And they're going to say, because people are on YouTube.

01:11:03.000 And then they're going to look to these liberal creators and say, how much money do we have to pay them to say our message?

01:11:08.000 And those people are going to take the money in two seconds. 0.97

01:11:11.000 And they're going to go to YouTube and say...

01:11:13.000 Our network guarantees this, that, or otherwise.

01:11:15.000 We're part of MSNBC or CNN, so you know it's safe.

01:11:18.000 Already, if you go to YouTube and you search news, you're only getting cable TV YouTube channels.

01:11:23.000 This is going to happen to podcasters in the next year or two, maybe three, but it's coming, and I think people got to be prepared for that.

01:11:30.000 They're not going to allow...

01:11:33.000 I am a mixed race high school dropout from the south side of Chicago who, through sheer brute force, built a show by just working 16 hour days.

01:11:42.000 And I guarantee you powerful interests are sitting there looking at me being like, this guy helped Trump win.

01:11:47.000 Right.

01:11:47.000 He was talking to moderates the whole time saying Trump is the guy and he helped cause this election.

01:11:52.000 We need to shut out people like him.

01:11:54.000 And I see that coming.

01:11:55.000 Well, it's not even just people like you who are explicitly conservative.

01:11:58.000 But what about all the comedians?

01:12:00.000 I'm not explicitly conservative.

01:12:01.000 Sorry, explicitly political, I'm going to say.

01:12:04.000 What are all the comedian podcasters who never talked really about politics that much who had Trump on their network?

01:12:11.000 They're going to fall in line in two seconds. 0.88

01:12:12.000 100%.

01:12:13.000 These comedians largely refused to endorse Donald Trump until it became obvious in the public sphere that, like, with the Bud Light and Target thing, they said, we can see the writing on the wall.

01:12:24.000 We're shifting over.

01:12:26.000 The Democratic Party and the neolib, neocon establishment political forces are probably saying those people will fall in line if we can maintain a dominant, like a ubiquity in culture.

01:12:39.000 Independent voices rising up and dominating.

01:12:41.000 Trump being a weird underdog anti-establishment billionaire was weird.

01:12:44.000 They didn't want him to win.

01:12:45.000 But now he owns the narrative.

01:12:47.000 He owns the popularity contest.

01:12:48.000 They've got to reverse that.

01:12:49.000 they're going to put billions into the space to make sure and it's going to be really easy.

01:12:54.000 They won't ban us.

01:12:56.000 They're not going to go to YouTube and say, ban that guy.

01:12:57.000 They're going to go to YouTube and say, we'd like to run a $100 million ad campaign.

01:13:01.000 Then the only thing you're ever going to see is the is the the podcast individual personalities that appear authentic, authentic because they were cast to do so.

01:13:10.000 It will work for the average person to be entertaining.

01:13:13.000 It will have substantially more marketing and backing.

01:13:15.000 It will be more appealing to individuals getting into the space.

01:13:18.000 And then they're going to have bosses and those bosses are going to say, look, we know you're deeply concerned about those issues right here, but we really do think this this news is more important and they're going to push people in the direction they want them to go.

01:13:30.000 Then you're going to get corporate press orange man bad all over again and it'll be YouTube.

01:13:35.000 I think part of the CNN numbers and the MSNBC numbers also do with the fact that when Trump won the one period but won the popular vote and that narrative was taken from them that it was the Electoral College and they stole it from you, yada, yada, yada.

01:13:48.000 I think a lot of Democrats and progressives sat there and just, like, I need to chill out.

01:13:53.000 I need no more news.

01:13:54.000 I need to sit there and sit.

01:13:55.000 There's no, like, major protest.

01:13:56.000 There's no resist libs like there was in 2016. But they will be back.

01:14:01.000 They will be looking for a voice.

01:14:02.000 And if there is no Rachel Maddow show the way it is now, there will be somebody else who will sit there and do it for them in whatever platform they do.

01:14:10.000 Yeah, political activism isn't done just because...

01:14:13.000 Yeah, no, no, exactly.

01:14:14.000 And when it comes to the left, like, they...

01:14:16.000 Have they worked very hard to get the gains that they've made, and they may have gone a little too far in the past 10 years or whatever, but that doesn't mean that they still don't want all the stuff, all of the initiatives that they've started and pushed a little too far on, they'll back up a little bit.

01:14:33.000 And then they'll go ahead and start going again.

01:14:35.000 So I have a substack called the National Poppies Newsletter, and I just wrote about this.

01:14:39.000 There is—in the states, right, in 2017, right, when Trump won, New York had a Republican state Senate.

01:14:46.000 Washington state did.

01:14:48.000 A lot of states had—Connecticut was tied.

01:14:50.000 They had a lot of—a lot of very blue states had Republican legislatures that held a lot of craziness.

01:14:56.000 Minnesota.

01:14:57.000 Pennsylvania did.

01:14:58.000 Minnesota did.

01:14:59.000 Michigan did.

01:14:59.000 All of that was lost over the last eight years, especially in the 2018 wave.

01:15:04.000 So the politics looks a lot crazier because in blue states that were already nuts, there was at least a few Republican control levers.

01:15:14.000 That all went away.

01:15:15.000 And that's why it looks completely insane now.

01:15:18.000 And that's why the politics, as you said before, will be even further because they have nothing left in any of these places.

01:15:24.000 I have to ask you your expertise on this as we're in the subject.

01:15:26.000 But CNN has been accused of trying to moderate by bringing on voices like yours for the period that you were on.

01:15:34.000 Five and one quarter episodes, yeah.

01:15:35.000 Five and one quarter episodes?

01:15:37.000 So, you know, so CNN, their ratings are in the gutter, and what everyone's basically saying is that they're realizing that this echo chamber of leftist liberal worldview is costing them viewership, and they have to moderate.

01:15:49.000 So they seek out personalities like yourself or Scott Jennings.

01:15:52.000 Is that...

01:15:54.000 How you feel it happened, or is that factually just what happened?

01:15:57.000 Like, yes, you're allowed to go on, like, specifically Abby's show, which is two-on-two.

01:16:02.000 It's usually, like, three-on-one, because the one other Republican is usually a person who hates Donald Trump, or, like, is a former Republican.

01:16:09.000 Or somebody who is basically mentally ill at this point and they're just on the way out mentally.

01:16:14.000 I've been on episodes like that.

01:16:16.000 And the host is rooting against you.

01:16:20.000 The host is trying to shut you down.

01:16:22.000 I don't think I ever really ever got a full sentence out on that show.

01:16:26.000 And on the other show, too, everything is built... 0.99

01:16:31.000 You get the script of what you're going to sit there and talk about, and it's why Donald Trump is the devil, why he is Hitler, and why all whites are racist. 0.99

01:16:39.000 And you're like, okay, that's what I'm talking about. 0.99

01:16:41.000 All right, let me get my talking points ready.

01:16:42.000 And then like 30 minutes before the show, they said, actually, we scraped this, and we're actually doing a completely different setup.

01:16:50.000 And yeah, be ready, and you have 90 seconds to speak on every issue, and we're going to interrupt you 30 times while you're doing it.

01:16:56.000 But why do the show then?

01:16:57.000 I mean, I thought it was fun.

01:16:59.000 I mean, I had a blast.

01:17:01.000 It was fun because I got to sit there and say, yeah, to Van Jones, yeah, BLM was the worst thing that ever happened in the 2020 at the Democratic Party.

01:17:09.000 I talked about the George Floyd effect, which was the first thing that ever went viral when Abby sat there and said it didn't exist. 0.82

01:17:15.000 That was ridiculous.

01:17:16.000 Yes, and I sat there in a room full of race activists who said that they had never heard the term, and Abby, who wrote it for the Washington Post 10 years prior, was like, that's not true. 0.89

01:17:26.000 She wrote it.

01:17:27.000 She wrote the Washington Post story.

01:17:29.000 She's just lying to you. 1.00

01:17:30.000 Because it's not about truth.

01:17:32.000 It's about narrative.

01:17:33.000 Yes.

01:17:33.000 So to sit there and to break the narrative a little bit more and be really emboldened in breaking the narrative, joke aside, the episode that I was kicked off for, the last part of that episode was supposed to be like a how accurate is the media featuring Brian Stelter.

01:17:49.000 Oh.

01:17:50.000 Who is like, and I was just like, I was like breaking out in hives going there. 0.98

01:17:54.000 I was hot walking into the chair, and I was like, I'm going to sit there and be like, Brian Seltzer, you're a liar. 0.99

01:17:58.000 Like, you lie all the time. 0.96

01:17:59.000 I was like, I'm doing my last show on CNN. I know I'll never get cast back, not for that reason, but for the beeper reason.

01:18:04.000 But I really went in there saying, no, this is a complete lie, but I wanted to sit there and fight the narrative over certain things and let it not be dominated.

01:18:13.000 Is he evil?

01:18:14.000 He's evil. 1.00

01:18:14.000 I will say that he is an evil man. 1.00

01:18:17.000 He knows he is lying and he is doing it because he's got nefarious... 0.78

01:18:21.000 I think he loves being on camera.

01:18:24.000 I met him.

01:18:25.000 I did a show with him.

01:18:26.000 He loves, loves, loves being on camera.

01:18:29.000 I think that's a big driver for him.

01:18:31.000 But this is the guy who brought Stormy Daniels lawyer and was like, you should be president 150 times.

01:18:38.000 And he's about accuracy in the media.

01:18:40.000 And why is the media have no integrity?

01:18:41.000 And they can never look at themselves.

01:18:43.000 And they have these bloated salaries.

01:18:46.000 Yeah, they have a few good people at CNN.

01:18:49.000 I love Scott.

01:18:50.000 I've never met him, but he was great.

01:18:52.000 Sir Michael Singleton's great.

01:18:53.000 There are a few people.

01:18:54.000 None of them have their own shows.

01:18:55.000 None of them have their own platforms.

01:18:56.000 We all live at the behest of liberals who sometimes are nonpartisan, but you're only allowed to say certain things.

01:19:05.000 And that's when they sit there and they're like, this is unacceptable.

01:19:08.000 You're unacceptable for this.

01:19:09.000 You're unacceptable for that.

01:19:10.000 And they shut them down.

01:19:12.000 Schermichael said biological, I think he said something like biological sex is real.

01:19:15.000 Or he said a man, men in women's bathrooms or whatever he said.

01:19:20.000 And he said they were like, you're transphobic.

01:19:24.000 The guy accused him being transphobic right then and there.

01:19:26.000 There was that segment where the guy's like, stop.

01:19:28.000 Oh, I won't hear it.

01:19:29.000 Stop.

01:19:30.000 That was the segment.

01:19:31.000 Yes.

01:19:31.000 Yeah.

01:19:32.000 And then Abby made an apology on the part of Shermichael.

01:19:37.000 You are always in...

01:19:39.000 You're allowed to run in that lane, and so sometimes it's great because you get to fight against it, but...

01:19:44.000 This is why...

01:19:47.000 This is why they're all dying, though.

01:19:48.000 This is why they're all dying, because, to be honest, if you went on a podcast and you had some dude basically trying to defend, you know, terrorism or whatever was going on, and then you made the beeper joke...

01:20:01.000 Every podcast is going to be laughing and they're going to be like, oh, we got to book that guy.

01:20:04.000 The cable network's like, get him out!

01:20:05.000 Get him out! 0.98

01:20:06.000 And it's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

01:20:07.000 A lot of comedians ask me after that.

01:20:10.000 Oh, do they really?

01:20:10.000 Yeah.

01:20:11.000 But it was like, it was a quick-witted and funny response to the constant barrage of you're a Nazi. 0.71

01:20:18.000 And then they immediately feigned victimhood of... 0.81

01:20:21.000 You're saying I should die? 0.99

01:20:23.000 To a Nazi from a guy who called non-Muslims animals. 1.00

01:20:28.000 All gays were pedophiles. 1.00

01:20:29.000 All non-Muslims were animals and horrendous things about the Jews. 1.00

01:20:32.000 And then in his, like, British accent, as he's bloating his chest, they're saying, you know, Donald Trump uses the language of Joseph Goebbels. 1.00

01:20:41.000 I'm like, fuck. 0.99

01:20:42.000 Off, excuse my language, but like, I mean like, you probably sat there and used that same language your whole life. 1.00

01:20:48.000 I mean like, give me a break and that's why I kind of like lost it.

01:20:51.000 You know the story of Amber Duke?

01:20:53.000 Yeah, Amber's a good friend of mine.

01:20:54.000 She walked off the show. 0.76

01:20:55.000 Yes, for that episode from when I was on, yeah.

01:20:57.000 She was called a Nazi.

01:21:00.000 That Looney Tune.

01:21:01.000 Whatever her name is.

01:21:02.000 Yes.

01:21:02.000 And this lady.

01:21:04.000 Yeah.

01:21:05.000 She loves it.

01:21:05.000 I called her that.

01:21:06.000 And she was like, I'm not going to sit here and be called a Nazi.

01:21:08.000 And then, you know, the long story short of it is I guess they no longer have that woman on the show.

01:21:13.000 Amber works for the network.

01:21:15.000 I think Amber said on your podcast that the other lady was booked on another show over Amber who works for the network. 1.00

01:21:25.000 That is crazy.

01:21:27.000 I don't know why they give people those platforms.

01:21:31.000 I've done Piers Morgan and sometimes he has people on.

01:21:35.000 I'm like, is there an insane asylum that's just a rotating door?

01:21:40.000 You ever see the movie Invasion with Nicole Kidman?

01:21:42.000 No, but I can get the gist from the title.

01:21:46.000 Astronaut comes back to Earth infected by some fungus.

01:21:49.000 Yeah.

01:21:49.000 And then when you go to sleep, your hormones while you sleep activate the fungus and then turn you into a hive-mined alien creature.

01:21:57.000 Like, you look human and everything, but you're, like, emotionless.

01:22:00.000 And they vomit on other people to convert them. 0.83

01:22:02.000 That's what it feels like is happening.

01:22:03.000 But how many of these people have ever worked either in A, real journalism, or B, political, like, work...

01:22:09.000 That talk about politics.

01:22:11.000 Very, very, very few.

01:22:12.000 They have no expertise on the issue.

01:22:14.000 They're trying to create viral moments to create the dot-com economy and really milk it. 0.96

01:22:18.000 And that's why – as long as your business is built on feigning outrage or making people angry or anxiety-ridden, you have to go further every single time.

01:22:29.000 There's no end in sight.

01:22:34.000 So they're the epitome of talking heads.

01:22:36.000 They don't have any sources, but they don't have any foundations.

01:22:40.000 They don't have any foundations.

01:22:42.000 They don't have any foundations against them, and they don't know what they're talking about.

01:22:46.000 Talking heads used to be people who had a job, and now they're like 60, or they're retired, or they wrote a bunch of books, or whatever.

01:22:54.000 That's not these people.

01:22:56.000 These people are like 23, and are like, I have an opinion to give...

01:22:59.000 Like, okay, but they're building their entire economy on either being very charismatic or good-looking and knowing absolutely nothing and having no work experience behind it.

01:23:10.000 So it's very concerning if they get massive audiences.

01:23:14.000 And that's what they said about the right with Trump.

01:23:16.000 They said, oh, look at those people listening to him.

01:23:17.000 But at least they were funny and they were interesting.

01:23:19.000 A lot of them were comedians.

01:23:21.000 These people are saying craziness. 0.62

01:23:23.000 Crazy nonsense and getting people, I think, emotionally and mentally disturbed.

01:23:28.000 I mean, that's been kind of the ammo for 10 years.

01:23:31.000 Look at the reaction to Trump getting elected in 2016. Where is that lady now who went on her knees and screamed no? 0.51

01:23:39.000 I want to know what happened to her.

01:23:41.000 That's the exact image that was in my head.

01:23:42.000 I want to know, where is she? 0.61

01:23:45.000 That's something, but like what you're talking about, that's exactly what the media has been doing to the American people forever.

01:23:51.000 The idea that Donald Trump is a Nazi or that he was anything other than an aughts Democrat, like Democrat 90s and aughts Democrat, that's exactly what he was and everyone knew it.

01:24:03.000 Oprah Winfrey and all these people, Whoopi Goldberg, and he went on The View and everyone is all He went on Wendy Williams and did like relationship advice.

01:24:10.000 They all loved him.

01:24:11.000 Oh, it's so good.

01:24:12.000 It's so good.

01:24:13.000 If you want to go on YouTube, it's so good. 0.99

01:24:14.000 Yeah, but also their economy was that he was an evil, you know, Hitler-esque person or a smart evil maniac or a fat orange retard. 1.00

01:24:23.000 And it was like living in both worlds at the same time. 0.96

01:24:25.000 And so they were just, it was just the media continuously doing Dumping this down people's throat.

01:24:32.000 And when society is now at the point that we talked about earlier, where everything is safetyism and, you know, children are children until they're 25, 26 or whatever, you're going to have people freaking out because the worst thing that's ever happened to them in their life is the election of Donald Trump.

01:24:50.000 But look how many books there were.

01:24:51.000 Look at the Washington Post became financially solid.

01:24:54.000 The New York Times made tons of money.

01:24:56.000 MSNBC and standard ratings in 2017 were gigantic.

01:24:59.000 They loved it.

01:25:00.000 Do you know this expression, if God wasn't real, we'd have to make him up?

01:25:03.000 That expression?

01:25:04.000 If Donald Trump wasn't real, they would have to make him up.

01:25:07.000 He was the best thing that's happened to many, many news stations.

01:25:10.000 I think for the average medium person who's not a news junkie, not a professional, not someone who listens to Joey Reed and says, wow, she's got it all going on.

01:25:19.000 But the average person who's just concerned because they're hearing news all the time that's saying this is a nutbag or whatever the case is.

01:25:26.000 I think that they're...

01:25:28.000 Part of the thing that the media did not anticipate is their exhaustion from eight years of it and the lived experience that, oh, we didn't go to World War III. Lived experience.

01:25:37.000 Oh, Lefty, you're welcome.

01:25:39.000 The lived experience of Trump being president.

01:25:41.000 Yeah, of Trump being president and being like, oh, we didn't go to World War III. There was no camps.

01:25:47.000 Yeah, the results of the first Donald Trump presidency were very good for most people, and then you had COVID, which was actually very bad for everybody, and the...

01:26:02.000 Argument made by the left was, we can handle this.

01:26:04.000 The argument made was, Donald Trump is the reason why it was all messed up, and we can make everything better.

01:26:09.000 And we're going to have this 82-year-old.

01:26:11.000 He's got all the ideas.

01:26:12.000 And everyone suffered, and everyone suffered because of the policies of the Democrats and the inflation.

01:26:19.000 Everyone suffered under that.

01:26:20.000 For a long time, you know.

01:26:21.000 All of these policies that the Democrats really, really had been championing, people saw the results and then they're like, wait a minute, Donald Trump was better.

01:26:29.000 And I don't care that you're telling me that he's racist. 0.99

01:26:33.000 I see him talking to people and he's doing it in his ham-fisted, silly... 0.99

01:26:38.000 Dancing while doing the YMCA. It's Donald Trump's way, but he doesn't seem like he hates black people. 1.00

01:26:44.000 He doesn't seem like he hates people just because they're brown.

01:26:49.000 He doesn't seem like he hates women.

01:26:50.000 Look at his chief of staff and all these people that he's appointed.

01:26:55.000 People are seeing that the lies from the left about Donald Trump are just that.

01:26:59.000 And how many young liberals were all subset because there was no Wi-Fi in the camps that they were going to?

01:27:03.000 I would probably trigger the hell out of them.

01:27:06.000 That's the only thing.

01:27:08.000 Well, that is funny, though, when you see all these lefties who are cheering on Luigi Mangione, assuming he is the assassin, we don't know. 0.97

01:27:14.000 And I'm just like, it is kind of funny, but it actually isn't surprising that people who are really dumb don't understand that they are cheering for a world in which they would suffer. 1.00

01:27:23.000 Because they're dumb. 0.99

01:27:24.000 Because most people presume that prosperity is the norm. 1.00

01:27:29.000 They don't realize how, one, it's not normal in most of the world.

01:27:33.000 It's very not normal in the history of the world and how fragile it is.

01:27:37.000 When you listen to people make the arguments against our healthcare system, they're always comparing it to an imaginary system that's perfect.

01:27:46.000 Right.

01:27:46.000 The argument isn't against—they're not comparing it to Canada's healthcare system or the healthcare system in the UK where there's actual tangible negatives.

01:27:56.000 There are bad things that happen.

01:27:57.000 Now, I'm not trying to say that the US system is better or cheaper or whatever.

01:28:02.000 Your improvements can't be made.

01:28:04.000 Exactly.

01:28:04.000 But there are trade-offs, and if you had single-payer here in the U.S., there would be things that would make them unhappy about that.

01:28:11.000 So the idea that, oh, our system has these flaws, which it does, and then they're comparing it to this perfect, flawless system is something that's typical of the left when they're comparing our existing capitalist system with...

01:28:27.000 Property rights and stuff, comparing it to the utopian communism where nobody ever has to work.

01:28:32.000 It's not real.

01:28:33.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

01:28:34.000 But that's what I love when they sit there and say, oh, it's white men who screwed everything up. 0.98

01:28:38.000 You know, if we had a world without white men running places, we would be X, Y, and Z. Which authoritarian country are you talking about right now? 0.98

01:28:44.000 Because it's...

01:28:45.000 Not anyone that I do not...

01:28:48.000 Point on the map.

01:28:49.000 Find the country with no white men in any executive experience.

01:28:53.000 Maybe with the exception of Japan or South Korea.

01:28:56.000 What non-authoritative country are you talking about right now?

01:29:00.000 Or one that has as much prosperity or freedom as we do?

01:29:04.000 Zero.

01:29:05.000 It's a narrative to make white people feel bad about those because the average person has never thought of that before or seen it on the outside picture.

01:29:12.000 It's the product of our prosperity.

01:29:14.000 Right.

01:29:15.000 We as a nation have to teach the younger generations about these things, but we have these urban liberal types do not understand what the world is at all, and they think they're really smart.

01:29:29.000 They think they're smarter than you.

01:29:30.000 These people would not have...

01:29:33.000 I don't think anybody would ever make – any liberal who wants to make the argument that this statement is going to be wrong will be laughed at.

01:29:40.000 If you took your average run-of-the-mill conservative and your average run-of-the-mill liberal and dropped them both isolated in the middle of the Yukon territory far north, which one has a higher chance of survival?

01:29:54.000 Definitely not the lib.

01:29:56.000 Definitely not the lib.

01:29:57.000 Literally no question the conservative to any degree.

01:30:00.000 You go to a rural area.

01:30:03.000 You drive around here.

01:30:05.000 Most people, 99% Trump supporters.

01:30:07.000 Not all of them.

01:30:08.000 There's like an anti-Trump flag somewhere.

01:30:10.000 Mostly.

01:30:11.000 What do they have?

01:30:12.000 They all have chickens.

01:30:13.000 So they get fresh eggs in the morning.

01:30:16.000 And I'm not saying it's the most profound thing in the world, but yo...

01:30:19.000 Did you ever see that video where the woman is like, so my friend came over to my house and she was like, uh, Kayla, why do you have lemons in your fridge? 0.66

01:30:26.000 And she goes, because I sometimes use it to cook.

01:30:29.000 And she goes, yeah, I know, but like, why do you have store-bought lemons in your fridge?

01:30:33.000 And she goes, because I cook with them.

01:30:35.000 And she goes, Kayla, you have a lemon tree outside.

01:30:37.000 And she goes, yeah, but I have the ones from the store to cook with.

01:30:39.000 And she goes, why don't you just eat the lemons outside?

01:30:42.000 And she goes, you can?

01:30:43.000 Is this real?

01:30:44.000 Real video.

01:30:44.000 This was a real video.

01:30:45.000 Yeah, man.

01:30:46.000 100%.

01:30:47.000 I mean, I hope it wasn't, but I don't think it was.

01:30:49.000 That's crazy!

01:30:51.000 But this is true, like...

01:30:53.000 I would love, in every school, if they taught a class in 8th grade or high school called, like, the end of the world class, which is about, like, when a civilization collapsed and what got it there, and just different ones across the world, because people don't know how easy and fragile and broken things are, and they just don't repair.

01:31:10.000 I'll tell you what bothers me.

01:31:12.000 What bothers you, Tim?

01:31:13.000 What bothers me is when people come, and we have chickens, and I'll be like, hey, can you grab the eggs?

01:31:19.000 And they'll wash them.

01:31:21.000 I've learned I don't wash them anymore.

01:31:23.000 People don't understand.

01:31:25.000 Why would you wash an eggshell?

01:31:26.000 Because they look dirty, because they were on the ground and there's poop on them.

01:31:29.000 But you're not eating the eggshell.

01:31:32.000 So, people wash them off because they're like, oh, this is gross.

01:31:35.000 And then you wash off the bloom and they spoil.

01:31:37.000 You can put them in the fridge, they'll last for a long time.

01:31:39.000 But it's like, you take the eggs, they're poopy, and they have dirt, and you leave them.

01:31:43.000 You're not eating the shell, leave it alone.

01:31:45.000 Wash it when you're going to eat it, but you don't wash it before.

01:31:47.000 My point is, it's not just that.

01:31:49.000 That I'm being silly about.

01:31:51.000 But I have had people be like, we get fresh eggs right from the coop, and they'll be like, what do we have to do to eat them?

01:31:56.000 And I'll be like...

01:31:57.000 Break it open and eat it.

01:31:58.000 And they'll be like, you gotta do something to them?

01:31:59.000 And I'm like, no, you just break it open and eat it.

01:32:02.000 What do they think happens?

01:32:03.000 Because the eggs are all white.

01:32:04.000 They think they're cleaned and bleached and prepared.

01:32:07.000 I tell you, man, on our other property in Maryland, it kind of sucks when we moved because there's fruit all over the place.

01:32:15.000 We have pawpaw, we had cherries, we had apples, we had grapes, and we had wine berries.

01:32:21.000 And I would go out frolicking like Homer Simpson in the Land of Chocolate...

01:32:25.000 Grabbing all the berries.

01:32:27.000 Blackberries.

01:32:27.000 We had wild blackberries, black raspberry.

01:32:29.000 I can't tell you how many people that would come into the studio and I'd be like, check this out.

01:32:33.000 And I'd be grabbing it all and they'd be like, can I eat it?

01:32:36.000 And I'm like, bro, it's an apple.

01:32:38.000 Take it off the tree and bite it.

01:32:40.000 I've never done that before.

01:32:41.000 I'm like, wow, man.

01:32:43.000 These are not even necessarily liberals.

01:32:44.000 Sorry.

01:32:44.000 It's not even necessarily liberals.

01:32:45.000 It's people who live in cities don't know these things.

01:32:47.000 And again, I'm not pretending I'm a survivalist.

01:32:49.000 I'm just saying, based off the fact that I know you can take an apple off a tree and eat it because I watch the deer do it.

01:32:54.000 Right.

01:32:56.000 Yeah.

01:32:56.000 And that urban liberals are less likely to understand how to find water.

01:33:03.000 Society ends, yo, the cities, the water turns off in three days.

01:33:07.000 Conservatives have wells.

01:33:10.000 It's wild.

01:33:11.000 Yeah, I was just saying that we've all been taught that.

01:33:14.000 You don't think, unless you live out in the area where there's fruit and there's plants out there, that you can actually...

01:33:18.000 You don't have to clean off your eggs.

01:33:21.000 You don't have to...

01:33:22.000 No, I mean, I just would never...

01:33:25.000 Preparation is required.

01:33:26.000 Yeah, you see it pretty in the markets.

01:33:28.000 You're like, okay, what did they do to get there?

01:33:30.000 I don't know.

01:33:31.000 That would be like cleaning off the skin from the orange.

01:33:34.000 It just would make no sense because you typically don't eat the...

01:33:38.000 Have you seen a fresh chicken egg from a coop, brother?

01:33:40.000 Yes. 0.99

01:33:40.000 It's covered in chicken crap. 0.99

01:33:41.000 Okay, but that's still... 0.97

01:33:43.000 I could see you wiping it off so it doesn't drop into the pan, but I don't see why you would wash it.

01:33:50.000 Like watering it down.

01:33:51.000 They take a cloth and water and they wipe them off.

01:33:54.000 Yeah.

01:33:54.000 You don't do that.

01:33:56.000 You're not scrubbing them.

01:33:57.000 No, I'm talking if there's like...

01:33:58.000 In a dishwasher.

01:33:59.000 If there's like bird crap falling into your pan, you don't want that to happen.

01:34:02.000 True.

01:34:03.000 That's the only thing I'm talking about.

01:34:04.000 My point is, it's not meant to be disrespectful, it's that they think preparation is required for a lot of these foods.

01:34:11.000 No.

01:34:11.000 I walk out and it's pawpaw season, like, beginning of October, and you grab it off the tree and you just rip it open and you can eat it.

01:34:16.000 I'm not a big fan of pawpaw, by the way, but... 0.99

01:34:18.000 I'm of the assumption that like 70% of the public is either mentally ill, obese, or like completely useless. 0.90

01:34:23.000 So I just, I mean, this doesn't shock me, and maybe my 70% is low, but I mean, yeah, this checks out. 0.96

01:34:32.000 This absolutely checks out that we're washing eggs before eating them.

01:34:35.000 Do you guys wash potatoes before you eat them?

01:34:36.000 From the store?

01:34:37.000 Do you go put it in the sink?

01:34:39.000 I hate making potatoes.

01:34:40.000 Well, there's a couple ways to look at it.

01:34:42.000 If you get a fresh potato, you actually want there to be a little bit of dirt on it.

01:34:45.000 This is actually a source of a lot of B vitamins, and when people start washing it off, it actually is a contributing factor to malnutrition.

01:34:51.000 Some think.

01:34:52.000 I don't know for sure.

01:34:53.000 But, you know, that's a little bit more nuanced, I suppose.

01:34:58.000 Do you wash your chicken before you cook it?

01:35:00.000 I usually take off the feathers first.

01:35:02.000 I kill it, and then I... Okay, but you don't wash the skin.

01:35:05.000 The skin.

01:35:07.000 I saw those beans.

01:35:08.000 Yeah, people wash the skin. 1.00

01:35:09.000 Wash the chicken.

01:35:10.000 Oh, yeah, no, I don't wash the chicken either.

01:35:12.000 Certain culture does, apparently.

01:35:13.000 Yeah.

01:35:14.000 I'm Italian, so I put olive oil and garlic in literally everything.

01:35:16.000 I could have the skin.

01:35:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:35:17.000 In literally everything that's garlic and olive oil.

01:35:20.000 Fat and skin.

01:35:20.000 My Froot Loops?

01:35:21.000 Garlic and olive oil.

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01:35:54.000 We got the Empress Champion.

01:35:55.000 It says, Hello there.

01:35:56.000 So this is this alleged mothership thing, a balloon?

01:36:00.000 This is the second time our airspace has been violated during the Biden administration?

01:36:05.000 I'm assuming it's a boat of some sort that is launching these vessels, but honestly, I have no idea.

01:36:10.000 I mean, it's more than the second time if there's been multiple sightings of the, or if there's multiple of these UAV things, you know?

01:36:19.000 Yeah.

01:36:20.000 I don't know.

01:36:21.000 Quantum Strange Quark says radar should show where they're coming from.

01:36:24.000 If it's from a mothership off the coast, why hasn't the Navy destroyed it?

01:36:27.000 Something doesn't add up.

01:36:28.000 Yeah, Jeff Andrew could be wrong.

01:36:29.000 Yeah.

01:36:30.000 That's easy.

01:36:30.000 That is a good point, though.

01:36:31.000 If there's a boat in the middle sending things out, they could just seize the boat.

01:36:35.000 Right.

01:36:36.000 That's why it's kind of like, how's that?

01:36:37.000 Unless it's underwater, maybe.

01:36:38.000 I don't know.

01:36:39.000 And it, like, pops up and launches a journal and goes back down.

01:36:41.000 That'd be scary.

01:36:42.000 That would be terrifying.

01:36:44.000 I do think it's worth, like, the U.S. finding out, though.

01:36:47.000 Like, the military finding out where these things are.

01:36:48.000 Do you think of all countries, Iran has that capability?

01:36:52.000 I don't know.

01:36:53.000 Considering their scientists are being killed, like, once a year.

01:36:55.000 It's like the purge of scientists.

01:36:57.000 I don't know if they have that ability, but maybe they do.

01:36:59.000 It's like the highest, it's the job with the highest mortality.

01:37:02.000 Yeah.

01:37:02.000 Iranian scientists.

01:37:03.000 It's like comedians and then like Iranian scientists in that order, yeah. 0.92

01:37:07.000 Yeah, and it's like the Iranians kill their own comedians, but it's foreign adversaries killing their scientists. 0.50

01:37:10.000 Yeah. 0.89

01:37:12.000 All right.

01:37:13.000 JRG Project says, the drone story reminds me of Ace Combat 7's arsenal bird that deploys AI drones.

01:37:21.000 Time to fire up my F4J Phantom 2. The old school fighters are the best.

01:37:26.000 No idea.

01:37:27.000 I don't know what that is.

01:37:28.000 Ace Combat was a fun game.

01:37:30.000 Acularis says the Pentagon denied that the drones are from Iran.

01:37:32.000 Aliens?

01:37:33.000 That proves it!

01:37:34.000 They're aliens.

01:37:35.000 Got them.

01:37:36.000 There's no other explanation, and that's it.

01:37:39.000 That's it.

01:37:40.000 Matthew C. Kirshner says, well, alien invasion is the next 9-11, they said.

01:37:43.000 Who's they?

01:37:45.000 Though.

01:37:45.000 It'd be funny if it was aliens.

01:37:47.000 You know, because we were supposed to get aliens a few years ago and they never came.

01:37:50.000 Then they claimed that aliens were going to come last week and they didn't.

01:37:52.000 Aliens are always going to the places that no one wants to visit, though.

01:37:56.000 There's zero chance that these people...

01:37:58.000 Why are every video of an alien spaceship taken out of a phone from 2003?

01:38:05.000 Every single one is literally a phone from 2003's video quality of an alien spaceship.

01:38:11.000 Yeah.

01:38:12.000 Because they got a zoom in on it, maybe?

01:38:13.000 I don't know what it is.

01:38:14.000 It could be zoom.

01:38:15.000 It could be zoom, but every one of them?

01:38:18.000 They look like jacks, apparently, too. 0.98

01:38:20.000 I don't know.

01:38:21.000 I don't...

01:38:22.000 I'm not...

01:38:22.000 I'm not a big believer in the alien.

01:38:25.000 Well, Pinochet's helicopter tour says radar requires things to be at a certain altitude.

01:38:30.000 Oh, there you go.

01:38:31.000 There you go.

01:38:32.000 Mechanical mercenary, we did read this one, but he said they're manned and supposedly pivotal aero units doing military testing.

01:38:37.000 Can't shoot around pilots down.

01:38:39.000 I think there's a possibility.

01:38:41.000 That seems likely.

01:38:42.000 There was a funny story where people reported seeing UFOs.

01:38:46.000 And the news, unironically, I can't remember which outlet said, unironically said, the sightings come just 70 miles away from an advanced aerospace technological base for the Navy.

01:38:55.000 And I'm like, what?

01:38:57.000 So it's completely explained and we know exactly what it is.

01:38:59.000 Come on, guys.

01:39:00.000 Duh.

01:39:01.000 Yeah.

01:39:01.000 It's like that video from Mississippi where they saw the leprechaun.

01:39:05.000 Oh, was it just like nothing in the tree and they were pointing at it or whatever?

01:39:10.000 The greatest internet video ever made.

01:39:12.000 There was a viral trend on Twitter a long time ago where everybody started posting videos randomly of military vehicles on...

01:39:21.000 Military personnel in the streets, military vehicles driving through cities, trains carrying tanks, and they were all in on this decentralized gag where they would find any photo from anywhere in the country, post it, and claim it was one town.

01:39:35.000 And it went viral, started trending.

01:39:36.000 And there were people who actually believed there was this big military operation happening in some town.

01:39:41.000 Yeah, it doesn't shock me.

01:39:42.000 Those were the days of the internet, man.

01:39:44.000 Wild West.

01:39:44.000 Those were the good old days of the Wild West internet.

01:39:46.000 Now it's all boring.

01:39:47.000 All apps.

01:39:48.000 No websites.

01:39:48.000 What's going on, huh?

01:39:50.000 I've heard people say that web-based things are coming back and they want to see an end to apps because it's become ridiculous.

01:39:57.000 How many apps do you have to download?

01:39:58.000 Yeah.

01:39:59.000 You remember when you used to have to type in your Facebook password to pay your mortgage?

01:40:03.000 It was literally like you had to click on everything, either a Gmail password or a Facebook password.

01:40:08.000 What?

01:40:09.000 Why?

01:40:10.000 I never did any of that stuff with Facebook or Gmail.

01:40:14.000 I couldn't understand how to do one.

01:40:15.000 That was a very frustrating moment.

01:40:16.000 Yeah, I wouldn't want Google or Facebook involved with my mortgage payment at all, ever.

01:40:25.000 It's plenty for me to be dealing with the bank.

01:40:28.000 I'm all set.

01:40:29.000 That's enough.

01:40:30.000 It's kind of where they have the third party of someone like that to have involvement into your payments.

01:40:34.000 Absolutely not.

01:40:35.000 And you have to find all the parking lights in order to sit there and get into your bank account.

01:40:40.000 I'm like, is this really stopping everything?

01:40:42.000 Well, they wanted that because Google was teaching AI. All the Captcha stuff was teaching AI. What were they teaching AI? They were teaching AI how to identify things.

01:40:54.000 Every time you solved the CAPTCHA, it was actually being recorded.

01:40:58.000 It was all the same.

01:40:59.000 There's a stop sign, a train, a bike, a car, a boat.

01:41:02.000 It was teaching AI to identify.

01:41:03.000 Sidewalk.

01:41:04.000 The crosswalk was the one, I remember.

01:41:06.000 It's teaching AI. It's everybody helping to teach AI to identify pictures and stuff.

01:41:12.000 Do you think that that's part of why Elon bought Twitter, was to teach Grok people's likes? 0.99

01:41:19.000 Yep.

01:41:20.000 I think that most of the AI stuff that Tesla is doing, or information they get...

01:41:28.000 I'm sure that Tesla's...

01:41:30.000 Twitter is a massive, massive database, so he has access to all the tweets and stuff like that.

01:41:35.000 But most of the teaching of the AI comes from full self-driving.

01:41:40.000 All the Tesla cars that report back to Tesla, they all are helping to teach the AI.

01:41:48.000 All the full self-driving and all that stuff goes back to Tesla, and they use that to teach AI.

01:41:55.000 One of the first arguments was that X is the best form of communication between a Mars-based civilization.

01:42:03.000 That if there's an effective means to communicate that doesn't require an immediate back and forth, the 20 minutes it would take to send a tweet is no issue because the way you communicate on Twitter is like thought, and then it just goes out.

01:42:16.000 So that's why I was communicated to and from Mars basically.

01:42:20.000 Yeah, basically if someone lived on Mars and was tweeting, you'd have a constant connection with them despite the fact it took 20 minutes to send and receive.

01:42:26.000 So like a Martian would be like, do we use the hard R or no? 1.00

01:42:28.000 Right, exactly.

01:42:30.000 Or they might say, like, we're not on Earth, so you can't cancel us anyway.

01:42:35.000 Alright, another YouTube channel says, a few months ago I was driving at night and saw three car-sized drones flying single file lower than I would have expected.

01:42:45.000 Kind of freaked me out.

01:42:46.000 Near Folsom, CA. Well, that proves it.

01:42:49.000 It was Bigfoot.

01:42:51.000 Isn't that being in the prison?

01:42:52.000 Yes.

01:42:53.000 Bigfoot flying around in spacecraft.

01:42:56.000 Bigfoot was an alien.

01:42:57.000 Hmm.

01:43:00.000 Dark Elhan says, Gloucester County NJ, fire has radio traffic from a medevac helicopter about drones in Hammondtown, New Jersey.

01:43:07.000 Yeah, the report is that they were blocked by it.

01:43:09.000 That this helicopter was trying to move and then the drones were swarming around so they couldn't.

01:43:13.000 But the drones are probably the same, almost the same size as the helicopter.

01:43:16.000 Yeah.

01:43:17.000 They're an SUV size, yeah.

01:43:18.000 Yeah, that's...

01:43:19.000 That's why it's weird to say they're drones.

01:43:22.000 Just call them drones.

01:43:24.000 I don't know.

01:43:25.000 And there's no way that they had a pilot inside them?

01:43:27.000 I don't know.

01:43:28.000 Well, someone said they did.

01:43:29.000 Yeah, because if they had a pilot inside them and you shot it down, then that's an act of war, possibly.

01:43:33.000 I mean, so I can see why you wouldn't want to shoot down a piloted plane.

01:43:36.000 But also, they're so...

01:43:40.000 They should be a different name then.

01:43:41.000 Like, if they're drones, because drones you don't think of.

01:43:43.000 I mean, I've seen them do pesticides before, and they're not drone-sized.

01:43:46.000 They're, like, the smart car size, but they're not, you know, big SUV-sized, so they get big.

01:43:52.000 People think that thing that drops the Amazon box off.

01:43:55.000 Yeah, they're definitely not tiny all the time.

01:43:56.000 I'm waiting for one of those boxes to, like, kill the family dog, because they dropped it on Amazon.

01:43:59.000 Like a heavy box.

01:44:00.000 I'm waiting for that to happen on video, and that will be the end of those things flying around for a while.

01:44:06.000 Alright, what do we got here?

01:44:08.000 Sam T says, guys, come on.

01:44:09.000 You are all intelligent and know your history.

01:44:11.000 Nothing happens in the U.S. skies without the knowledge of one of the agencies running on a black budget. 0.97

01:44:15.000 What does it say?

01:44:18.000 F117B2U2 were all born there.

01:44:19.000 The tech is only 40 years ahead.

01:44:21.000 The tech is 40 years ahead. 0.99

01:44:22.000 I mean, yeah, I think we're fucking America. 0.97

01:44:27.000 That should be our logo. 0.99

01:44:28.000 That should be our motto underneath entering the United States. 1.00

01:44:31.000 Yeah, we're fucking America. 0.99

01:44:34.000 I would think that we have the radars and everything detectable to see anyone coming. 0.99

01:44:40.000 They're definitely, I think that they know.

01:44:42.000 I have zero doubt in our abilities.

01:44:44.000 I think that they know, they're just not saying.

01:44:45.000 Yeah.

01:44:46.000 I tend to remember.

01:44:47.000 Okay, Brian M says, why no talk about Israel expanding its empire in Syria and beyond? 0.98

01:44:53.000 Christians will be stomped. 1.00

01:44:55.000 What's Israel? 0.99

01:44:56.000 I've never heard of that place.

01:44:58.000 Is that prominent in the media, perhaps?

01:45:01.000 Anyone?

01:45:02.000 The chat is going to be on fire now.

01:45:06.000 These small, irrelevant countries we are not familiar with, I'm sorry, I have no comment.

01:45:11.000 I don't know.

01:45:12.000 We talked about Syria the other day.

01:45:13.000 I don't know what more we have to add.

01:45:15.000 The U.S., Israel and Turkey have been launching strikes in Syria.

01:45:20.000 Syria's government collapsed.

01:45:22.000 It's going to get really, really bad for the people who live there.

01:45:24.000 I guess there were some strikes.

01:45:26.000 Israel struck Syria's navy and took it out, took a large portion of it out.

01:45:31.000 And people are like, oh, you know, why did they do that?

01:45:34.000 Blah, blah, blah.

01:45:34.000 It's like, look, man, if Syria has actually been taken over by former al-Qaeda terrorists and they're going to restart ISIS, the Islamic State, if it's actually going to be that, do you really want them to be able to project force in the Mediterranean?

01:45:50.000 I don't think anyone wants that.

01:45:51.000 And as everyone knows, Israel has never done anything wrong, ever.

01:45:55.000 Absolutely perfect country, the bastion of good nature.

01:45:58.000 You kick them when they're down, too.

01:46:00.000 I also...

01:46:01.000 I don't know enough about Syria to sit there and make informed conversations.

01:46:06.000 I know the WNBA and Syria are almost on the same level for me, so I'm not going to really be jumping into this one.

01:46:12.000 Yeah.

01:46:14.000 Alright, we got Legoma says, what if Altist has been talking about the revolt of incels for a while now?

01:46:19.000 Yes, he has.

01:46:19.000 Indeed.

01:46:20.000 And technically, his counter, we were wrong, it probably is closer to like seven.

01:46:25.000 Yeah, I heard yesterday.

01:46:27.000 Rudyard Lynch is a YouTuber, what if Altist, and he made a bet.

01:46:31.000 His name is what?

01:46:32.000 Rudyard.

01:46:33.000 Rudyard Altist.

01:46:33.000 Okay, I don't know that.

01:46:34.000 Rudyard Lynch.

01:46:35.000 Okay.

01:46:36.000 And his YouTube channel is What If Alt History.

01:46:38.000 He said that by April, 1,000 people in the United States will be dead due to domestic political violence.

01:46:46.000 Okay.

01:46:47.000 I don't agree.

01:46:48.000 Only 1,000 people are...

01:46:50.000 At least.

01:46:51.000 Okay.

01:46:52.000 And so he said— People have been killed after the Trump election.

01:46:55.000 There was that guy in Minnesota who did kill his whole family.

01:46:57.000 Right.

01:46:58.000 And then there was the woman who killed her dad.

01:46:59.000 There is the CEO, obviously, politically motivated, so we believe right now.

01:47:03.000 And then there was a woman who was killed in—someone swatted Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:47:08.000 The bomb squad crashed into the car killing the woman, so that counts as a politically motivated death.

01:47:13.000 So it is like seven.

01:47:16.000 And the response from a lot of people is either it's ridiculous to assume that maybe people are going to die— Others are saying, wait till January 20th when Trump starts rubber stamping these exact numbers.

01:47:24.000 When is the date of this 1,000 number?

01:47:27.000 By April.

01:47:27.000 April.

01:47:28.000 So there's like five months.

01:47:28.000 Or did he say end of April?

01:47:30.000 I'm not sure if he said by April.

01:47:32.000 There's between four to five months for this 1,000 number, and that's seven right now.

01:47:36.000 Look, man, if there's 900...

01:47:38.000 Dead on April 1, I'm going to be like, look, man, maybe it's not 1,000, but it's looking pretty close.

01:47:43.000 Not only that, I was saying if 200, he may lose the bet, but we understand his point.

01:47:50.000 He said Donald Trump's going to win...

01:47:53.000 Historically, we can see the parallels as to what's going to happen between these ideologies, and he thinks that civil war is likely, but people misunderstand what civil wars are.

01:48:01.000 They think American civil war every single time, and I agree with him on this point. 1.00

01:48:04.000 He said, are there going to be standing armies from various states lining up against other factions?

01:48:09.000 No, of course not, but Obama will go off in Chicago.

01:48:11.000 But they didn't happen in 2017. It's a different world.

01:48:15.000 I think you overestimate how many people play sports versus watch it and say we won when they're eating a box of Cheetos.

01:48:26.000 That's actually a really good point for a Civil War. 0.99

01:48:28.000 No, because most of them are not going to do anything.

01:48:31.000 You're right.

01:48:31.000 They don't need to be.

01:48:32.000 The sport is played by a small amount of people.

01:48:34.000 I think you overestimate the laziness of most people.

01:48:38.000 I think you overestimate the requirement of population to destabilize a country.

01:48:41.000 You need a small amount of people to have a revolution or anything.

01:48:45.000 Yes, that is correct.

01:48:47.000 In cities like New York and Washington, a very small percentage of the population make up a majority of homicides.

01:48:52.000 That is 100% true.

01:48:54.000 But civilization doesn't fall apart afterwards.

01:48:57.000 No one said it's falling apart.

01:48:59.000 Didn't they say civilization would fall apart?

01:49:01.000 No, civil war.

01:49:01.000 A civil war would happen?

01:49:03.000 But his point is...

01:49:05.000 So it would be more like Northern Ireland than the American Civil War.

01:49:09.000 That would be like a heavy civil strife period.

01:49:12.000 Academics believe we are in a civil strife period already.

01:49:14.000 So this is left and right different academics.

01:49:16.000 And then they blame each other.

01:49:18.000 Like, the left is the right fault, the right is the left.

01:49:19.000 Right.

01:49:20.000 But—so either we resolve the civil strife, which has happened in the past too, but if it escalates beyond this, then the academics—the scale is the period we're in now, which has—I think Stephen Marsh said civil strife is defined as 70 politically motivated deaths per year, which we exceed greatly.

01:49:38.000 And that would be— What are we at?

01:49:40.000 Well above that.

01:49:41.000 I don't know the exact number, but— Okay, I don't know the—yeah, okay.

01:49:45.000 The problem I have with that assessment is that— The politically motivated deaths are wildly disparate.

01:49:52.000 It's like I understand if you are saying it's civil strife because you have the anti-abortion and pro-abortion factions and they're fighting and you're like 70 people died in the abortion conflict.

01:50:01.000 That's going to bubble up.

01:50:03.000 But right now the politically motivated deaths are like this guy's a sovereign citizen. 0.98

01:50:07.000 That guy hates the Jews. 0.98

01:50:08.000 This guy thinks— He's a black nationalist or a white nationalist. 0.99

01:50:11.000 Right, right. 0.69

01:50:11.000 They're all different. 0.69

01:50:13.000 70 deaths in a nation of, I guess, 50 million is a lot, but 70 deaths in a nation of 350 million is quite different.

01:50:22.000 I think it's us.

01:50:24.000 When political tension gets this hot that we see this many instances popping up.

01:50:28.000 But again, I don't know if I agree.

01:50:31.000 However...

01:50:31.000 The idea of civil war, like a lot of people, what they do is they look at the American Civil War and they're like, well, when the states start lining up against each other, and that's never been any civil war ever except for the United States.

01:50:42.000 So usually what happens is urban factions rise up.

01:50:46.000 They take control of urban elements and that's all you see.

01:50:49.000 Then a conflict arises between rural elements and the rural elements tend to cut off the urban centers because they can't survive.

01:50:56.000 And then conflict starts popping up until it reaches ahead and then you get people going crazy.

01:51:00.000 So if you look at like Syria, for instance, it didn't start as a civil war.

01:51:03.000 It started with like 13 different factions of protest groups going around, refusing and blocking streets, and then Assad starts shooting people.

01:51:12.000 Then he says, but there were terrorists attacking us.

01:51:14.000 And then what do we get several years later?

01:51:17.000 ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and Islamists.

01:51:18.000 Yeah, but you also had a lot of other countries invested in that civil war.

01:51:21.000 That always happens, too.

01:51:22.000 Yeah.

01:51:23.000 You had a lot of countries sitting there and saying funneling arms and weapons and money, including the United States.

01:51:28.000 And this is absolutely a component of what may happen in the United States is I think the true civil strife period would be what Red Yard is describing.

01:51:35.000 If we see bombs going off in cities like Chicago or whatever, and we get to that point, I would say that's strife.

01:51:41.000 And then if we see intervention on the part of any foreign adversary to a certain faction, now you're starting to get into that territory of where this could be a real civil war.

01:51:49.000 But I'm not thinking that's likely anytime soon.

01:51:52.000 I don't think that's likely.

01:51:52.000 A thousand deaths is kind of like, you know, that's a wild prediction to make.

01:51:56.000 But you bet a thousand bucks on it.

01:51:58.000 He did?

01:51:58.000 I mean, it's not a lot of money either.

01:52:00.000 He's fine.

01:52:01.000 Is he like, is that a lot of money?

01:52:04.000 Like we bet a dollar, you know?

01:52:05.000 Okay.

01:52:05.000 Yeah.

01:52:06.000 Let's grab some more.

01:52:08.000 We got Eagle Eyes.

01:52:08.000 It says, That could be it.

01:52:24.000 We could be misinterpreting the news as he was in pain so he couldn't bang, when in actuality, he said he had numbness.

01:52:31.000 Did you just rhyme?

01:52:31.000 No, no, this is true.

01:52:32.000 According to the story, he had numbness down there, and maybe he was saying, like, uh-oh, I can't feel anything.

01:52:40.000 He couldn't feel anything, yeah.

01:52:40.000 And he had no enjoyment of using a turkey baster, so...

01:52:44.000 That's right.

01:52:44.000 That's what you did.

01:52:46.000 Gross. 0.98

01:52:46.000 Maybe that's why he's mad. 0.98

01:52:48.000 He felt the pain.

01:52:49.000 Jeez.

01:52:51.000 Man.

01:52:52.000 Shout out to anybody.

01:52:53.000 Dryden54 says, does anyone actually think a Manhattan jury will convict this guy?

01:52:57.000 Which guy?

01:52:58.000 Which guy?

01:53:00.000 Oh, Luigi.

01:53:02.000 Yes, a Manhattan jury would convict that guy.

01:53:04.000 Yeah, I feel like he would.

01:53:07.000 Unless they were from Hell's Kitchen or Staten Island.

01:53:10.000 If it was everybody from Brooklyn.

01:53:13.000 Certain pockets, but if it's a disparate...

01:53:16.000 I had to do jury duty in New York and it was absolutely like the meetings of every insane person you could possibly run into on a day in New York City and that was...

01:53:27.000 It was great.

01:53:28.000 All the smart people get out of it because they figure out how.

01:53:30.000 Well, one Jewish lady was like, she told me, she's like, I think if the cops do something, they're always right. 1.00

01:53:33.000 And you know what?

01:53:33.000 I'll probably be in jail at the end of the day for saying that out loud.

01:53:36.000 And I was like, lady, I didn't ask you for your opinions.

01:53:39.000 I mean, like, I'm just here like you are.

01:53:41.000 This is a really funny point.

01:53:42.000 30JD says, Tim Ryan, it's ironic to say 25-year-olds have the minds of children, but my fiancé's second graders have racial, sexual, and physical minds of 25-year-olds.

01:53:51.000 That's really well put.

01:53:54.000 Yep.

01:53:54.000 That is really, really well put.

01:53:56.000 No, but they have the life experience of that.

01:53:59.000 And when does a brain fully develop?

01:54:01.000 Is it 25?

01:54:02.000 25, yeah.

01:54:03.000 24, 25. Yeah, but I don't understand when adults look at kids like they are all-knowing beings and we're going to just mess them up.

01:54:13.000 And you're like, no, they don't know what the colors are.

01:54:15.000 Like, this is not, they're not, this is not Yoda as a little person.

01:54:18.000 You know what it is, is that a lot of these liberal activists don't have kids and have not interacted with kids.

01:54:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:23.000 And they've never had the experience of a parent saying shit, and then the kid starts going, shit, shit, and they're like, oh, stop saying, oh, man. 1.00

01:54:30.000 Remember when JD told, when JD was like, he's like, when this kid was like talking about Pokemon when he's on the call with Trump, and he's like, shut the hell up. 1.00

01:54:36.000 And people were liberals like, how could he say it to a child?

01:54:39.000 I'm like, yeah, seven-year-old.

01:54:40.000 Sometimes you say shut the hell up to them.

01:54:41.000 I'm like, It happens.

01:54:43.000 It absolutely happens.

01:54:45.000 Yeah.

01:54:46.000 Kids, you gotta tell them, be quiet.

01:54:48.000 I don't know what to tell you.

01:54:49.000 But these are the people who don't have kids and never experienced kids.

01:54:52.000 And if they do, they're the kind of people that will be in a restaurant with their kids screaming and they'll be like, your problem, not mine.

01:54:57.000 Or the people who negotiate with their children who are under five.

01:55:02.000 That makes me...

01:55:03.000 And you're at a friend's house and you want to tell them, like, you need to do something about your kid because I'm going to kill myself of being around.

01:55:10.000 Like, I have never disliked a four-year-old so much in my life.

01:55:12.000 If you ask them, like, how do you want to go to the car?

01:55:15.000 No, just pick him up and drag him. 1.00

01:55:17.000 What you should do is, when you have a friend come over to your house and they bring their four-year-old and the four-year-old's acting up, instead of just making it awkward and saying stuff, just pull out a muzzle and a leash.

01:55:26.000 Be like, this is a gift for you.

01:55:29.000 You can deal with your child.

01:55:30.000 Yeah.

01:55:31.000 Yeah, but you know the problem is that liberals take everything literally, and so they're going to be like, Tim Paul thinks the children should be muzzled and leashed.

01:55:38.000 They make legitimate leashes for kids.

01:55:40.000 They do.

01:55:41.000 They don't have to go around the neck.

01:55:43.000 If you go to the airport, it's a harness, and you can hook them up and, you know, just...

01:55:49.000 And you get like 25 feet like leeway or whatever, 10 feet, and then it stops.

01:55:53.000 We're afraid I'm oriented here.

01:55:54.000 Why would you want a four year old 25 feet leeway?

01:55:56.000 That's like a mass destruction.

01:55:58.000 I'd switch it to 10. Give him 10. I wouldn't ever do the leash thing, but I can certainly understand like in an airport where it's very crowded, you'd be kind of concerned about it.

01:56:06.000 But I think the problem is people have too much stranger danger phobia, where they think the world's ending and your kid's gonna get snatched.

01:56:13.000 I get like – okay, that's not the problem.

01:56:16.000 The problem is people who do not believe in any level of discipline for their child at any age.

01:56:22.000 That is a far bigger problem.

01:56:24.000 I shouldn't be at a – I've been at tables with people that I know and their kid is screaming at the top of their lungs and they're just like just pretending it's not happening.

01:56:32.000 How?

01:56:33.000 Like, how am I pretending it's not happening?

01:56:34.000 You gotta get the water bottle and go...

01:56:36.000 I mean, I grew up with the wooden spoon.

01:56:39.000 My mom loves wooden spoon. 1.00

01:56:40.000 My grandmother loved that wooden spoon. 1.00

01:56:42.000 I think a spritzer bottle is more humane.

01:56:44.000 It is.

01:56:45.000 It sends the message, but it doesn't leave a welt.

01:56:47.000 And you don't break the spoon on your person's head.

01:56:49.000 They never broke the spoon, but yeah.

01:56:51.000 Works on my cat.

01:56:53.000 And the cat stops chewing on stuff.

01:56:55.000 Well, leather.

01:56:56.000 I hear a cat likes leather.

01:56:57.000 Yep.

01:56:58.000 Oh, Allison told you about Seamus eating her purse?

01:57:00.000 Yeah.

01:57:00.000 Ate the purse.

01:57:02.000 Yeah, the cat is chewing on all the leather.

01:57:04.000 So he chewed through the purse strap and now it's duct taped back together.

01:57:08.000 Aren't cats fun?

01:57:10.000 Everybody loves cats. 0.99

01:57:11.000 Damn Seamus. 1.00

01:57:12.000 Yep, yep. 0.99

01:57:13.000 We are launching a new coffee called Luck of the Seamus.

01:57:16.000 Oh, nice.

01:57:16.000 Yeah, it's for...

01:57:17.000 Seamus 1. Well, no, it's Seamus 2. Oh, okay, Seamus 2. Yeah, but on the back, Seamus 1...

01:57:22.000 So Seamus 2 is the cartoonist.

01:57:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:24.000 And so it's Freedom Tunes art and it's an Irish cream.

01:57:26.000 Why'd you name Seamus?

01:57:27.000 Why did we name the cat Seamus?

01:57:30.000 After our friend Seamus.

01:57:31.000 Oh, okay.

01:57:32.000 Seamus Coughlin, the cartoonist.

01:57:33.000 Oh, okay.

01:57:34.000 But actually, we decided to give Seamus—the cat is Seamus 1, and the cartoonist is Seamus 2. Got it, okay.

01:57:40.000 And there's a Seamus 3 now.

01:57:42.000 Seamus is, like, very common, like, with Irish people.

01:57:45.000 I have Seamuses in my family, but, like, I don't know ever anyone who's not Irish who, like, names their families.

01:57:50.000 Someone's Seamus.

01:57:51.000 Yeah.

01:57:51.000 Well, we were driving in the car and we had a name for him.

01:57:54.000 It was probably like Herman or something.

01:57:55.000 And then I jokingly said, we should call the cat Seamus.

01:57:57.000 And Allison laughed.

01:57:58.000 And Seamus goes, you guys are bad friends.

01:58:00.000 And then I was like, well, now we have to do it.

01:58:02.000 I was joking.

01:58:04.000 But then Allison was like, no, we already call him Seamus.

01:58:07.000 But I call him James now because I don't respect the Irish. 1.00

01:58:10.000 If you don't know this, never let on that something bothers you.

01:58:12.000 Someone's like poking at you.

01:58:13.000 I don't think it really bothered.

01:58:15.000 I think it was joking.

01:58:16.000 But, uh, no, I do call it, his name is James.

01:58:19.000 Like, uh, Mr. Bocas, our last cat, his name was Bucko, and then it turned into a bunch of different words until we ended up with his name being Bocas.

01:58:26.000 All right.

01:58:27.000 Yep.

01:58:27.000 Mr. Bocas, right?

01:58:28.000 Rest in peace.

01:58:29.000 Yeah, Mr. Bocas.

01:58:30.000 Yeah.

01:58:30.000 It was funny, because when he was dying, we called the vet, and we told the vet that his name was Mr. Bocas, and they kept saying Bocas, and we were like, it's Mr. Bocas.

01:58:38.000 I call him, my dog's name is Royal Tenenbaum after the movie character, but it's Royal Tenenbaum.

01:58:42.000 That's a long one, too.

01:58:43.000 There you go.

01:58:43.000 Yeah, my favorite movies.

01:58:45.000 All right.

01:58:46.000 Korowag says, Amen.

01:58:58.000 Amen.

01:58:59.000 Yeah, that's not a bad idea.

01:59:00.000 It's a great idea.

01:59:02.000 Yep.

01:59:03.000 Just following orders should not cut it anymore.

01:59:05.000 We got a correction.

01:59:06.000 Sterling Wilson says, Tim, Muggsy Bogues didn't dunk.

01:59:09.000 Spud Webb was the dunk champ you're thinking of.

01:59:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:59:11.000 Bogues was 5'3", Webb was 5'7".

01:59:13.000 Let's shout out the shortest player and the shortest dunk champ in NBA history.

01:59:17.000 Nice.

01:59:17.000 Great name drops.

01:59:18.000 So, I did quickly check.

01:59:20.000 Bogues apparently did dunk in practice, but he never did in an actual game.

01:59:25.000 Likely meaning he had the capability to do it, but at a high-level play against other players, it was probably riskier to do and harder to do.

01:59:35.000 So, there you go.

01:59:36.000 Are you fact-checking the Super Chats as they come in? 0.94

01:59:40.000 No, they fact-checked me.

01:59:42.000 What do you mean?

01:59:42.000 No, but then you looked up and said who it was.

01:59:45.000 That he does dunk.

01:59:47.000 That he reportedly dunked in practice.

01:59:48.000 During practice, right.

01:59:50.000 But not in any games.

01:59:53.000 Noah Bass says, I started my first small business at eight years old, pulling trash cans every week.

01:59:57.000 I charged 50 cents per can, making nearly 500 bucks a year as a little kid.

02:00:01.000 I attribute that experience to my work ethic today.

02:00:04.000 Let me tell you what my friends would do.

02:00:05.000 We'd go to Aldi, and when people were walking out with their groceries, we would say, Excuse me, ma'am, can we take that cart back for you?

02:00:12.000 And they would go, Absolutely.

02:00:13.000 We made a quarter.

02:00:14.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:15.000 Nobody cared about the quarter, and they didn't want to walk back.

02:00:17.000 They'd be like, Dad, take it.

02:00:18.000 And then we'd collect quarters, and we would buy packs of Pokemon cards with them.

02:00:22.000 That's how you do it.

02:00:23.000 Wow.

02:00:23.000 Back in the good old days.

02:00:24.000 Back in the good old days, my friends.

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