Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 03, 2026


GOP Scores MASSIVE WIN In California, Democrats LIVID | Timcast IRL


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00:02:37.000 Man, the results out of California are absolutely stunning.
00:02:41.000 Spencer Pratt, he has taken second place in the LA Mayroll race.
00:02:45.000 The results are not confirmed yet, but it's looking pretty good that he advances to the runoff in November.
00:02:51.000 Now, Hilton is in the number one spot, and this is all massive because it means turnout is likely going to be explosive for a variety of reasons.
00:03:00.000 Now, the response from our progressive friends has been how should I say, ungentlemanly and unladylike.
00:03:09.000 Nithya Rahman, who got third place, cried.
00:03:12.000 She cried.
00:03:13.000 Guys, you want to hold office.
00:03:16.000 You want to be in the highest and most dangerous positions and do the hard work.
00:03:19.000 You can't break down crying when you lose.
00:03:22.000 And she cried.
00:03:23.000 Hassan Piker, he got angry.
00:03:25.000 And I'll give him that anger is a better response than tears.
00:03:30.000 Hassan aptly pointed out with Steve Hilton in the frontrunner position, it is going to light a fire under Republicans.
00:03:40.000 And this is very bad news for progressives and Democrats.
00:03:43.000 It's what's going to wake up Republicans to get out and vote because now there's an actual chance a Republican can win the governor's race in California and maybe set that state straight.
00:03:53.000 So we'll talk about that.
00:03:54.000 We got a lot of news in that response.
00:03:56.000 And then, of course, 60 minutes we got to talk about because this one's a bit more esoteric, but this matters towards the prestige of these institutions.
00:04:04.000 Scott Pelly was fired, losing his mind.
00:04:06.000 There's this big uproar at CBS, and Barry Weiss is basically just axing all of these woke corporate damn liars, and the media is getting shuffled around.
00:04:15.000 Reshape, and that's going to be fun.
00:04:16.000 But I would be remiss if I didn't bring up the assault of Rep Luna.
00:04:21.000 I was shocked and appalled.
00:04:22.000 Apparently, a Code Pink staffer or organizer struck Rep Luna.
00:04:28.000 An assault, she says.
00:04:31.000 And then we saw the video.
00:04:33.000 Yeah, the Code Pink lady lightly tapped Luna on the arm to talk to her, and Luna lost it and called it an assault, I guess.
00:04:39.000 And it's a ridiculous story.
00:04:41.000 So we're going to talk about that.
00:04:42.000 Of course, the big news is the ramification on the midterms.
00:04:46.000 What we are seeing in California is ridiculously good news for Republicans.
00:04:51.000 So, this is going to have a massive, massive impact.
00:04:54.000 We'll talk about that.
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00:06:34.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Myron Gaines.
00:06:37.000 Hey, thanks for having me, man.
00:06:38.000 Who are you?
00:06:38.000 What do you do?
00:06:39.000 One half of the Fresh Fit podcast, author of Why Women Deserve Even Less, new book out in stores.
00:06:44.000 Book number one was Why Women Deserve Less.
00:06:46.000 Book number two is Why Women Deserve Even Less.
00:06:48.000 And book three coming soon, Why Women Deserve Nothing.
00:06:50.000 So, yeah, happy to be here.
00:06:52.000 Are you actually making those books?
00:06:53.000 Yeah.
00:06:54.000 Yeah.
00:06:56.000 Well, he's an author, and good to have you.
00:06:59.000 It'll be funny.
00:06:59.000 It should be fun.
00:07:00.000 We got the boys hanging out.
00:07:01.000 Ian, of course.
00:07:02.000 Everybody, good to be here.
00:07:03.000 Phil Labonte in the house.
00:07:04.000 Good to see you.
00:07:05.000 Hello, everybody.
00:07:06.000 Very clean cut.
00:07:06.000 Thank you very much.
00:07:07.000 You look very lit.
00:07:08.000 Bro.
00:07:09.000 Got rid of the mustache.
00:07:11.000 Did you talk about the tour already on the show?
00:07:11.000 Makes me look a little younger.
00:07:14.000 Talk about it a little bit, yeah.
00:07:15.000 I don't want to drag it on, but I'm here.
00:07:17.000 Yeah, people keep saying you look really young, Phil.
00:07:19.000 Yeah.
00:07:20.000 Go on tour, you lose about 10 years or so.
00:07:22.000 Wow.
00:07:23.000 That's wild.
00:07:23.000 That's correct.
00:07:24.000 There's probably a lot of cardio.
00:07:25.000 Yeah.
00:07:25.000 He's absorbing their energy.
00:07:27.000 It's like some kind of music vampire.
00:07:30.000 It's true.
00:07:30.000 It's true.
00:07:31.000 We got this one from the New York Post Nithia Raman's appalling tantrum after L.A mayoral flop.
00:07:31.000 All right, let's get the news.
00:07:39.000 Okay, the first thing we got to talk about is tremendous.
00:07:42.000 Tremendous victory for the Republicans in LA and in California statewide.
00:07:47.000 Steve Hilton is the front runner for the governor's race.
00:07:50.000 He'll move to a runoff.
00:07:51.000 Spencer Pratt is in second place.
00:07:53.000 He's currently up 7.1 points.
00:07:55.000 So Nithi Raman is starting to close the gap a little bit.
00:07:58.000 Only 62% of the votes are in.
00:08:00.000 And the most important thing you need to understand is that California has election month, and they say they will not know the results for weeks.
00:08:09.000 My argument is because they're rigging the election.
00:08:13.000 They want to.
00:08:14.000 Slowly count the ballots and make sure they can eliminate votes for the Republicans.
00:08:18.000 But in the meantime, Spencer Pratt had a tremendous showing.
00:08:21.000 People are screaming and cheering.
00:08:22.000 They're super excited.
00:08:23.000 Hilton is in first place for the governor's race.
00:08:26.000 And in response, I actually couldn't believe this when I was told this, when the boys were like, hey, you know, Nithya Rama was crying.
00:08:32.000 I was like, crying?
00:08:33.000 She's an adult woman.
00:08:35.000 What is she crying for?
00:08:36.000 Oh, I was wrong.
00:08:37.000 They're children.
00:08:39.000 I've been a candidate for something as long as you can remember.
00:08:43.000 And you've had to live through it with me.
00:08:46.000 And you've been so patient through all of it.
00:08:49.000 Thank you.
00:08:51.000 I hope you know that everything every person in this room is fighting for in this campaign has been about building a city that's worthy of you and every child in this city.
00:09:05.000 Oh, no.
00:09:06.000 Oh, no, she's crying.
00:09:07.000 Quick, burn the Constitution.
00:09:09.000 Yeah, I'm okay with a little bit of emotion.
00:09:11.000 I mean, Jordan Peterson does it well.
00:09:12.000 If you're really feeling something, he does not do it well.
00:09:15.000 It's nice to see a grown man be, you know, not close off.
00:09:18.000 Oh, it's crazy.
00:09:19.000 It's off putting.
00:09:20.000 Depends on when you do it.
00:09:21.000 It's off putting for people to be constantly just shut off their emotions as well.
00:09:24.000 What's that?
00:09:25.000 He does it all the time.
00:09:26.000 Sometimes he does it.
00:09:27.000 He's not that extreme.
00:09:28.000 But anyway, this girl, her voice was shrill.
00:09:30.000 It was annoying.
00:09:30.000 I don't know what she was crying about.
00:09:32.000 I mean, she lost.
00:09:32.000 I don't think maybe she was sad because she lost.
00:09:34.000 Bro, I'm sorry.
00:09:34.000 She's chilling.
00:09:35.000 That's different than loving your wife so much that it brings you to tears.
00:09:38.000 Did you see that video where the female members of Congress were like, my menstrual pain is so intense, I deserve time off from work?
00:09:44.000 Yeah.
00:09:45.000 I mean, you know, this is what happens.
00:09:46.000 It's a disease called KAS, Kitchen Abandonment Syndrome.
00:09:50.000 When women aren't in the kitchen long enough, they end up crying and doing weird things.
00:09:53.000 I think that they're.
00:09:54.000 That her menstrual cycle would be painful whether she was in the kitchen or out of it.
00:09:57.000 It'd be less painful when she's in the kitchen.
00:09:59.000 There's actually studies out there that show the closer you are to a stove, the less it hurts during your period.
00:10:03.000 Oh, to be fair, there's a hot bath, wine, and a nice book.
00:10:03.000 There might be something.
00:10:07.000 And that's why, but you know, it's funny because you're making a joke and you're like, ha, I should be in the kitchen.
00:10:11.000 But she's asking to be.
00:10:12.000 I don't think he's joking.
00:10:13.000 No, no, no.
00:10:14.000 No, I mean, it's a half joke.
00:10:16.000 It's meant to be humorous.
00:10:17.000 The point is, she's agreeing with you.
00:10:19.000 She's saying, I want to be home because my hoo hoo hurts.
00:10:19.000 Yeah.
00:10:23.000 Now, this is the issue I take with Nithya Raman crying.
00:10:27.000 Listen, man, women can do certain jobs.
00:10:29.000 Like, if there's a six foot seven behemoth of a woman who talks like this and she's like, I'm going to be a firefighter, I'd be like, okay.
00:10:37.000 Like, I always make the joke that if I'm in a burning building and I'm like gagging for air on the ground and I'm like, I'm not going to make it and the door busts open, I don't care if it's a man or woman.
00:10:48.000 I want to see a six foot tall, glistening, you know, sweaty, oiled hunk of muscle.
00:10:54.000 And like, the last thing I want to see is a 110 pound woman soaking wet and being like, I can't pick you up.
00:10:59.000 You're going to die.
00:11:00.000 I like, So, if that turns out to be a six foot five behemoth of a woman who's like, I'll carry you out, I'd be like, Yes, awesome.
00:11:07.000 But I got to be honest, that's not likely.
00:11:09.000 That's just not likely.
00:11:11.000 So, truth be told, every man would prefer to see, for the most part, a ripped Arnold, glistening, sweaty guy being like, I'm going to pick you up and carry you to safety.
00:11:22.000 You'd be like, Save me.
00:11:24.000 You're burning to death.
00:11:25.000 I don't care.
00:11:25.000 I don't want to see a frail woman.
00:11:27.000 Anyway, my point is this Holy crap, Nithi Raman crying over losing this race.
00:11:31.000 Well, I've asked women this question.
00:11:33.000 On my show as well.
00:11:33.000 And I say, look, if you call 911, you're at the worst moment of your life.
00:11:37.000 Who do you want to walk through the door?
00:11:38.000 And every single time, yeah, I want a capable man.
00:11:41.000 It is what it is, right?
00:11:43.000 I think it's very important that women tend to look at the exceptions to the rule versus the rule in general.
00:11:47.000 Are there women out there that are capable of doing this stuff?
00:11:49.000 Absolutely.
00:11:50.000 But it's not enough of them.
00:11:51.000 It's not a high enough percentage to substantiate an entire society using females to do certain masculine dominated jobs.
00:12:00.000 I mean, look, speaking generally, It's all correct.
00:12:05.000 The issue, though, is like my point is listen, out of 100 guys who can lift up a person and carry them out of a burning building, there's going to be maybe one woman who can do it.
00:12:16.000 And so that's fine for that woman to get that job.
00:12:16.000 Exactly.
00:12:18.000 And that's what feminism was supposed to be.
00:12:21.000 If you are a She Hulk and you want to do this job, please, you are capable of doing it.
00:12:26.000 The problem is we turned that into we have quotas now and we're sending 5'4, 110 pound women to try and hold a firehouse and they blast off like a rocket ship because they get launched in the air from the pressure.
00:12:37.000 Feminism went from equality of opportunity to equality of outcome.
00:12:40.000 And that's the issue here.
00:12:42.000 Look, if they can meet all the standards, cool, no problem.
00:12:44.000 The problem is that a significant amount of them cannot.
00:12:47.000 And we're watering down our military, our firefighters, our police to meet these quotas.
00:12:52.000 I was listening to someone last night.
00:12:54.000 I poured through Instagram last night, Instagram clips.
00:12:56.000 But one of the guys was saying that men get a large dopamine release from solving problems.
00:13:02.000 Women don't get that.
00:13:04.000 As far as he said, they don't get it.
00:13:06.000 They get it from oxytocin release from interpersonal relationships.
00:13:11.000 So, that's why I think why they're drawn to nursing, why they're drawn to care, positions of care where guys want to go fix the problem, put out the fire, put the wall up, and that's just general sense.
00:13:20.000 You have evidence to back your theory.
00:13:22.000 If you look at the majority of inventions and human progression, et cetera, who's always been at the forefront of that?
00:13:26.000 It's always been men.
00:13:27.000 Men are deductive problem solvers, we're the explorers, we're the discoverers.
00:13:31.000 Women don't have the same proclivities to go out there and explore and innovate.
00:13:34.000 It's not their biological imperative.
00:13:34.000 They just don't have babies.
00:13:35.000 But for men, our ability to procreate, our ability to create children and have offspring is contingent upon our productivity, which is why we're highly incentivized to go out there and be productive.
00:13:45.000 And women have babies.
00:13:47.000 Yeah.
00:13:47.000 Exactly.
00:13:48.000 And they get offended by the idea, and that's the problem with modern feminism, that women are ashamed that they have babies.
00:13:48.000 But yeah.
00:13:56.000 Like, the women, these feminists will actually argue, like, you think women are only just having babies, and it's like, principally, they are, yes.
00:13:56.000 Yes.
00:14:03.000 And that's a very important thing because humans don't exist without that.
00:14:06.000 And like, guys, why do you want to come into the men's space and argue with a bunch of guys anyway?
00:14:10.000 So, one thing that's interesting, whenever I have like a panel show and I have like a girl that's like maybe a stay at home mom or she's in like a loving relationship, whatever, she kind of prioritizes motherhood and being a wife or a girlfriend.
00:14:10.000 I don't get it.
00:14:19.000 And we have other girls that might be a bit more feminist or chasing a career, they'll shame her for not pursuing a career and having money and whatever.
00:14:26.000 Like, what?
00:14:26.000 So, you're just a bum, you hang out all day.
00:14:28.000 And it's like we've completely flipped it where for women, the metric of success is like the masculine burner performance versus like for women, it's versus, you know, these feminist women are just shaming these women for being moms, which is like what I think is the best thing they should be doing.
00:14:40.000 It's a tough job.
00:14:41.000 Maybe the worst job on the planet.
00:14:42.000 It's a thankless job.
00:14:43.000 It's a thankless job.
00:14:44.000 I still harassed my mother.
00:14:45.000 I called her today.
00:14:46.000 Like 47 years later, I'm still calling the woman and asking for her advice.
00:14:50.000 And I'll say this too.
00:14:51.000 Because you mentioned like the oxytocin release, right?
00:14:53.000 From like, you know, figuring things out and deductive problem solving.
00:14:56.000 I think that's a big reason why men get hurt by relationships ending more.
00:15:00.000 Because for a lot of guys that might be brilliant, high IQ, et cetera, one of the few things they can't conquer is like understanding female psychology.
00:15:06.000 So a lot of guys, after a bad breakup, they thought they did everything right.
00:15:09.000 They did what they were told was right.
00:15:11.000 And then after the breakup, they're like, I can't figure this out.
00:15:12.000 And this is what leads guys to, you know, self delusion potential.
00:15:14.000 It leads to obsession.
00:15:15.000 Exactly.
00:15:16.000 Because they're like, I figured everything else out.
00:15:18.000 Why can't I figure out women?
00:15:19.000 And the things we've been told about women is completely counterproductive to what they're actually arousing.
00:15:22.000 Never listen to a woman tell you what she wants and think that she's telling the truth.
00:15:26.000 She doesn't have any idea.
00:15:26.000 This is what I'm.
00:15:28.000 No, I disagree.
00:15:28.000 Let me ask you guys.
00:15:30.000 No idea.
00:15:30.000 They do, but they're not going to tell you.
00:15:32.000 Exactly.
00:15:33.000 So women are not here right now.
00:15:34.000 So I'll ask you guys, as men, what you think.
00:15:36.000 I think that if a guy changes his feelings about something, he'll tell you.
00:15:40.000 He'll be like, I don't feel that thing I used to anymore.
00:15:42.000 Now I feel this new thing.
00:15:43.000 And you'll be like, well, I see by the way you're saying it that that that that's true.
00:15:45.000 Whereas a woman, she just starts acting different.
00:15:48.000 And you're like, I better, if I'm not paying attention, she's not going to tell me.
00:15:52.000 There's a cartoon meme that was on the front page of Reddit.
00:15:55.000 And it was like a woman with a book standing.
00:15:58.000 It was like an animation.
00:16:00.000 And the guy walks up and he was like, Hey there, just saw you over here, thought you looked interesting, and wanted to introduce myself.
00:16:06.000 My name's John.
00:16:08.000 Just wondering if you had any interest in ever hanging out.
00:16:10.000 And she goes, No, no, thank you.
00:16:11.000 And he goes, Have a good day.
00:16:14.000 And he turns on to walk off.
00:16:15.000 And she goes, Is that it?
00:16:16.000 You're just going to leave?
00:16:17.000 And he goes, You said no.
00:16:19.000 I'm going to go play video games.
00:16:21.000 It's not what I said, it's how I said it.
00:16:23.000 Couldn't you read between the lines?
00:16:24.000 The point is the reason why this video went viral is because it is a trope accepted by men and women that women will say, oh, no, I'm not interested because they want the guy to show interest.
00:16:34.000 It's a test.
00:16:35.000 And then you get this weird mix where obviously there are times where women really don't want a guy to do something, so they say no.
00:16:41.000 But the problem then becomes a meme emerges where there are women who are saying, actually, no doesn't mean no.
00:16:47.000 And then guys are like, I ain't getting anywhere near that statement.
00:16:50.000 Yeah.
00:16:50.000 I think that comes for evolutionarily from a woman that wants a guy that can read between the lines.
00:16:54.000 Like, you're going to get a lot of shit tossed at you in the world, Ian, or whoever you are.
00:16:59.000 Get ready to read through the crap.
00:17:00.000 So, if I'm telling you no in a situation, but you can tell my body language is telling you yes, you're supposed to somehow know that.
00:17:07.000 And I think the reason why women do this is they want to feel wanted.
00:17:12.000 And I think it's also part of evolutionary psychology where if you think about it from, you know, go back 10,000 years, if a woman said yes to any guy who walked up, she's getting low value males.
00:17:23.000 She's trying to sort out.
00:17:24.000 You can't see a guy.
00:17:26.000 Like a guy walks up, maybe he's physically fit.
00:17:28.000 That's points.
00:17:29.000 But you can't see if he's smart and capable.
00:17:31.000 So women will push back and test the man to see if he's actually valuable.
00:17:35.000 That's why social proof is so important for them.
00:17:36.000 And then the other thing I will say, right, and feminists will get mad at me for saying this, but like if women were honest about their interests when it comes to arousal and romance, they would say, yeah, don't call me back.
00:17:47.000 Don't pedestalize me.
00:17:48.000 Always be the leader.
00:17:49.000 Always make the decisions.
00:17:50.000 I'm inept.
00:17:51.000 I don't know what I want to eat.
00:17:52.000 I'm indecisive.
00:17:53.000 Like, If women were actually honest about how they behave, no one would take them seriously.
00:17:56.000 So they have a vested interest in lying to you, right?
00:17:59.000 And selling a certain side of them that is more socially acceptable, more appealable.
00:18:03.000 Like one thing about women, right?
00:18:05.000 That's interesting because some guy was like, Well, Myron, how can you give a voice when, like, you're like an asshole or whatever?
00:18:10.000 You're not like a nice guy.
00:18:11.000 And I'm like, Look, dude, what women say they want versus what they respond to are two different things.
00:18:14.000 And I like to use the example of hybridophilia.
00:18:17.000 Women overwhelmingly prefer bad boys, criminals, degenerates, et cetera.
00:18:22.000 You look at like a Ted Bundy, a Richard Ramirez, a Luigi Mangione in modern times.
00:18:26.000 Why are women showing up to these guys' trials and droves?
00:18:28.000 These guys are like, you know, some of the most deplorable human beings.
00:18:31.000 It's because women have a fascination with men that go against the grain and just kind of get it in some way.
00:18:36.000 So, Women are never going to be honest about their sexual proclivities because it would make them look crazy.
00:18:40.000 So that's why they have to say, I want flowers and a gentleman.
00:18:42.000 I think they respond to that favorably.
00:18:44.000 Luigi Mangione and like these murderers, the idea is they'll kill for you.
00:18:50.000 They'll kill everybody else but you.
00:18:52.000 You know what I mean?
00:18:52.000 Like if you're living in the wilderness and there's bears and bad people around and you're a woman, you're like, I want my man to just massacre anybody who threatens me.
00:19:00.000 You need to be capable of violence.
00:19:02.000 And obviously, these murderers are like embodying that, obviously, illegally.
00:19:06.000 But it's very important that, you know, The things that women are aroused by and attracted to are like just not politically correct, so they can't be honest about that.
00:19:13.000 Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.
00:19:16.000 Porn obsessed Hassan Piker goes on shocking homophobic rant after Scott Weiner wins SF congressional primary.
00:19:25.000 So I guess Scott Weiner won Pelosi's seat.
00:19:27.000 She's retiring, and he's really angry.
00:19:30.000 Pittsburgh and Philly are far more progressive than San Fran and LA.
00:19:33.000 Yeah.
00:19:35.000 Yeah, you know what it is?
00:19:37.000 I know what it is.
00:19:39.000 Fucking car-reliant infrastructure.
00:19:42.000 The more cars you have, the more shitty the fucking city is.
00:19:46.000 That's it.
00:19:47.000 No public transit.
00:19:48.000 Scott Wiener wins.
00:19:49.000 No fucking people living close to one another.
00:19:51.000 No close quarters to one another.
00:19:53.000 No public transit at all.
00:19:55.000 Massive wealth disparity.
00:19:57.000 That's going to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
00:19:59.000 It's just fucking rich liberals who just want homo-fascism in the country.
00:20:03.000 That's it.
00:20:04.000 They want gay fascism.
00:20:05.000 They want gay techno-fascism.
00:20:09.000 So I guess what happened is that.
00:20:11.000 Everybody he endorsed that went on his stream lost.
00:20:14.000 Yeah.
00:20:15.000 So he, like, Trump, I guess, just lost.
00:20:18.000 Was it Utah or Iowa?
00:20:18.000 What was it?
00:20:20.000 One of his endorsements lost.
00:20:22.000 Was it Iowa, I think?
00:20:22.000 Yeah.
00:20:23.000 I don't know which one it was, but there was.
00:20:24.000 And so that's like Trump's just lost one endorsement, but he's like swept everyone else.
00:20:28.000 Hassan's just lost.
00:20:31.000 Everyone he's backed has just lost.
00:20:33.000 And so he's really pissed off.
00:20:35.000 But of course, there is a lot coming out about Scott Weiner winning in Pelosi's district because people have questions about that guy.
00:20:41.000 I'll say it like that.
00:20:42.000 Mr. Weiner?
00:20:43.000 Yeah, this is Peter.
00:20:45.000 He's pretty creepy.
00:20:47.000 There's a lot of photos of him at gay pride parades, just dressed up like, you know, the people that go to gay pride parades.
00:20:55.000 And what, like, Hassan backed the other candidate, so he's pissed off?
00:20:59.000 I mean, he's not wrong, though.
00:20:59.000 I don't know.
00:21:01.000 Wiener's a pretty progressive guy.
00:21:04.000 Well, look, San Francisco is the city where they allow men to blow each other in public legally.
00:21:10.000 Yeah.
00:21:11.000 It is.
00:21:11.000 You didn't know this?
00:21:12.000 Where?
00:21:13.000 In L.A. San Francisco.
00:21:14.000 Okay.
00:21:14.000 Yeah, in San Fran, like two dudes could go at it right in public in the middle of the street, and that's allowed.
00:21:14.000 San Fran.
00:21:20.000 You didn't know that?
00:21:21.000 No.
00:21:21.000 There's like no type of like indecency, lewd, laicidity.
00:21:24.000 They don't have any voyeurism, none of these laws?
00:21:27.000 Bro, come on.
00:21:28.000 You know how law works.
00:21:29.000 Of course, but like.
00:21:30.000 If a city is entirely gay, the cop is probably gay too.
00:21:34.000 Well, they just don't want to enforce it.
00:21:35.000 Okay, I swear to God.
00:21:36.000 Yeah, but hold on.
00:21:36.000 Okay.
00:21:37.000 But like in West Virginia, men and women aren't allowed to live together.
00:21:40.000 Okay.
00:21:40.000 It's the same thing.
00:21:41.000 In West Virginia, the law says men and women cannot cohabitate.
00:21:41.000 Yeah.
00:21:45.000 Everybody does.
00:21:46.000 Yeah.
00:21:47.000 But you have to be married in order to cohabitate.
00:21:48.000 Yeah.
00:21:49.000 But there's tons of people living with their boyfriends or girlfriends.
00:21:51.000 So, like, the laws on the books is what you're saying is just that they just don't enforce it in San Francisco.
00:21:54.000 But I want to clarify that because it makes it sound like it's unique.
00:21:59.000 It is the fundamental principle of law in every city, every county, and every state in this country that there are laws in the books the police do not enforce because the community does not want it enforced.
00:22:08.000 So, to stress, cohabitation is illegal in many states, but like any cop is going to arrest you for shacking your girlfriend.
00:22:15.000 That's the point.
00:22:16.000 Being gay and like having sex in public is so normalized in San Francisco, the cops won't arrest you for it.
00:22:22.000 And I'm not going to show the video, but there's video of this.
00:22:25.000 And somebody walks with the cops and they're like, there's two guys going at it right now, and the cops are like, what do you want us to do about it?
00:22:25.000 That's great.
00:22:31.000 There's insane laws.
00:22:32.000 In Texas, they still have cow tipping laws and stuff like that.
00:22:34.000 So, yeah, there's insane laws.
00:22:36.000 Cow tipping is not real.
00:22:37.000 Well, Texas Rangers.
00:22:38.000 Cow tipping is not real.
00:22:39.000 So, the Texas Rangers, we make this joke all the time, right?
00:22:42.000 The Texas Rangers were pretty much kind of formulated.
00:22:44.000 One of the reasons they were formulated was for cattle theft.
00:22:47.000 And it used to be a capital offense way back in the day.
00:22:49.000 And it's still on the books.
00:22:51.000 But it's kind of like a ceremonial thing.
00:22:53.000 Do they still enforce it in that way?
00:22:54.000 No.
00:22:55.000 But they get mad when you talk about this, by the way, with the Texas Rangers.
00:22:59.000 I do like the cow tipping thing, though, because people believe it.
00:23:02.000 How do you think you're going to knock on a 1,500 pound run and jump kick?
00:23:06.000 I don't know.
00:23:08.000 And the funny thing is, cattle theft.
00:23:10.000 It's obviously cattle theft for sure.
00:23:11.000 But that still is on the books.
00:23:14.000 There's cattle.
00:23:14.000 No, it is.
00:23:14.000 No, it is.
00:23:15.000 It is on the books.
00:23:16.000 The funny thing is, because I've lived around cows for a long time.
00:23:19.000 Obviously, there's a lot of people who lived around cows longer than me.
00:23:22.000 But cows just lay down.
00:23:24.000 You know what I mean?
00:23:25.000 You're not tipping them over.
00:23:26.000 They're on the ground.
00:23:27.000 But people believe it.
00:23:29.000 I think that cows sleep standing up for some reason.
00:23:31.000 I don't get it.
00:23:32.000 The joke, like, For all Texas law enforcement, it's like, you know, when you work with the rangers, like you make a joke about, like, hey, you guys were created because of cows.
00:23:38.000 So, like, it pissed them off.
00:23:39.000 So, it's like, that's like the running joke in the law enforcement community in Texas.
00:23:42.000 Yeah, cows are made like a cow police first.
00:23:44.000 Like, that was like the main, because it was such a big deal back in the day.
00:23:47.000 Like, your cow is your livelihood.
00:23:48.000 So, it's like, yeah.
00:23:49.000 Well, it was the food for the city.
00:23:49.000 But they get killed.
00:23:51.000 Yeah.
00:23:51.000 So, you know, you go back in the day and there's a cattle rancher with a couple thousand heads, and the city nearby is like, if something happens, that we die.
00:23:59.000 We die in winter.
00:24:00.000 So, if you messed with them, if you were a cattle poacher or something, Everybody's coming for you because it's not just about the business owner.
00:24:08.000 It's about, are we going to survive the winter?
00:24:10.000 They would kill them.
00:24:10.000 Horse thieves, too.
00:24:11.000 They have a rich history.
00:24:12.000 You can't be a ranger unless you were born in Texas.
00:24:14.000 They have all this ceremonial stuff.
00:24:17.000 Isn't Scott Weiner the dude who wanted to pass that law where you could kidnap kids to trans them?
00:24:22.000 Yes.
00:24:23.000 What?
00:24:23.000 Oh, I figured out it was the Iowa guy lost, Republican Randy Instra.
00:24:27.000 That was the first one.
00:24:29.000 Yeah, to what's the guy's name?
00:24:30.000 I didn't get the other guy.
00:24:32.000 But anyway, about Weiner, what were you saying?
00:24:34.000 These West Coast states, Oregon, Washington, California, are passing these laws where.
00:24:39.000 You can kidnap a kid and trans them against the wishes of the parent, and the state will protect the sanctuary.
00:24:45.000 I'm insane, dude.
00:24:46.000 And Hassan, I mean, I do think it's funny that Hassan is pissed about it, and I'm going to give it to him.
00:24:51.000 I'm not going to rag on Hassan.
00:24:53.000 He's mad at Wiener, who's a creepo.
00:24:55.000 And, you know, at the end of the day, if we can align at least against pedos and creepos.
00:25:03.000 No, no, no, no.
00:25:04.000 I don't think Hassan is against Wiener because of those things.
00:25:08.000 Hassan may be against Wiener because the other candidate is more progressive or there was someone that he preferred.
00:25:13.000 I don't imagine that the other candidate would be like, no, you can't trans the kids or whatever.
00:25:13.000 Yeah.
00:25:18.000 It's just a matter of Hassan wanted to be more progressive.
00:25:22.000 I would assume that Hassan.
00:25:23.000 Yeah, no, I agree.
00:25:24.000 I think it's funny that he's going on what's being called a shocking homophobic rant, even though you're right.
00:25:31.000 The other candidate probably is largely going to agree anyway.
00:25:34.000 And if they got in, they'd be like, yeah, you can have gay sex in public, whatever.
00:25:38.000 I haven't talked about Hassan much lately, but I really believe he has been a LARPing communist.
00:25:44.000 And it caught up to him.
00:25:45.000 Like he's been pretending to be, he doesn't really know, truly know what that means if you tried to do a communist revolution, like the way that.
00:25:52.000 Of course he does.
00:25:53.000 He lives in a, what are they, like a $5 million man?
00:25:55.000 He identifies as a democratic socialist.
00:25:57.000 Him and Kyle Kalinske both identifies that.
00:25:59.000 And then Kyle Kalinske just went nuts.
00:25:59.000 Yeah.
00:26:01.000 At least Hassan has maintained a level of, like, as bad as he is, he's been as bad as he is.
00:26:08.000 Kyle Kalinske is like, I don't know.
00:26:11.000 He had an embolism pop in his brain that just, like, fried his frontal lobe.
00:26:15.000 Hassan had a wake up call last week or a couple weeks ago when the government started investigating, where they announced they were going to investigate him.
00:26:19.000 And now he's been banned from the UK.
00:26:21.000 Like, I think he's realizing, like, don't play games on the internet.
00:26:24.000 Like, don't mess with people about communism, bro, especially about communism.
00:26:28.000 He's not, I don't think he's learned anything.
00:26:32.000 He looks at himself as a victim, and he is going to use this to finesse people out of their money because he's going to be like, oh, I'm the victim here.
00:26:42.000 The government's coming after me because they don't like what I have to say, and it's because of Israel, and blah, blah, blah.
00:26:46.000 He's going to use that as much as he possibly can.
00:26:49.000 He immediately started naming names right after they investigated him.
00:26:52.000 He named the guy, and it's not about defunding it.
00:26:55.000 He's like a canary.
00:26:55.000 That's because he's stupid.
00:26:57.000 Look, it's a game to me, you guys.
00:26:58.000 This is the real money.
00:26:59.000 This is the guy who's been pulling all the strings.
00:27:01.000 I don't think it's a game to him.
00:27:02.000 I mean, he went to China.
00:27:03.000 He went to.
00:27:04.000 To Cuba, I think that he really does have an affinity for communist dictatorships.
00:27:10.000 He really does believe the things that he says, and he really hates America.
00:27:15.000 I've watched a lot.
00:27:15.000 That is so weird.
00:27:16.000 He makes so much money in this country working with his cousin at the Young Turks.
00:27:21.000 It's interesting because they're getting a taste of what it's like to be a conservative.
00:27:25.000 It's like they got banned from the UK, and it's like, oh my God, what's going on here?
00:27:29.000 And it's like, yeah, welcome to being a conservative commentator, bro.
00:27:31.000 Two weeks before he got banned, they banned 11 of Tommy Robinson' friends and fans.
00:27:35.000 Dude, it's crazy because, like, they can operate on TikTok with impunity, Instagram, et cetera.
00:27:39.000 Like, I can't have a TikTok.
00:27:41.000 I know you've had issues with them as well.
00:27:42.000 Like, you know, they never deal with censorship ever.
00:27:45.000 So it's like they get banned.
00:27:46.000 Like, what's going on here?
00:27:47.000 And it's like, it's funny because it's like that, you know, progressive ideology of like pro censorship is exactly what got him in trouble with the UK.
00:27:54.000 It was the Labour Party, which is their functional equivalent of the Democrats and, you know, the J Lobby.
00:27:58.000 I know we're on YouTube that, you know, were instrumental in keeping him and Cenk out.
00:28:01.000 But it is that leftist ideology that's just.
00:28:03.000 I don't think that's true at all.
00:28:05.000 Imagine.
00:28:05.000 They put records on it, they put those articles on it that it was the Labour Party and the J Lobby.
00:28:10.000 But they, two weeks before, they banned pro Israel, a handful of pro Israel people from coming to the country too.
00:28:16.000 Tommy Robinson is massively pro Israel and was bringing in a bunch of people for his rally, and they banned him as well.
00:28:16.000 Who?
00:28:21.000 Yeah, but they're going to, yes, that is true.
00:28:23.000 But he also.
00:28:24.000 The issue is are you going to cause problems for the establishment?
00:28:27.000 So that includes Israel for sure, but that's not the principal reason.
00:28:31.000 It's like Hassan is a disruptive figure, and so is Cenk, and they're like, no, we want control.
00:28:35.000 What did Cenk do?
00:28:37.000 Same thing.
00:28:37.000 Same thing.
00:28:38.000 Just talked crap about the communists.
00:28:41.000 Israel's a component of this.
00:28:41.000 I'm not saying that's not the case.
00:28:43.000 But they're an offense to established order, is like the way I describe it.
00:28:46.000 So for them, it likely is the issue of Israel.
00:28:50.000 But the principal issue is the UK is banning people they feel could disrupt their control systems.
00:28:57.000 So that includes Brian Robinson's people.
00:28:57.000 Right.
00:28:58.000 They banned Ye too.
00:29:00.000 Oh, recently.
00:29:01.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:29:01.000 They banned him as well for the same thing.
00:29:03.000 Didn't they ban someone who was a rapper over pro Palestine rapping?
00:29:06.000 No.
00:29:06.000 What was it?
00:29:07.000 I know who you're talking about.
00:29:08.000 He's British, so he was good.
00:29:09.000 But I know who you're talking about.
00:29:11.000 They canceled his tour in America.
00:29:12.000 No, he got banned from the US.
00:29:13.000 Yeah, he got, yeah.
00:29:13.000 They canceled his tour.
00:29:14.000 Yeah.
00:29:15.000 I know the guy with the dreadlocks.
00:29:16.000 Yeah.
00:29:16.000 But, like, it was the J lobby that lobbied hard outside the Labor Party.
00:29:21.000 Let me wrap right now.
00:29:22.000 You just mentioned the Randall.
00:29:24.000 There's more black people with dreads than the one white Jewish guy.
00:29:28.000 But the bottom line is, like, it's this lack of freedom of speech that the left practices all the time that came back to bite them in the ass.
00:29:37.000 Hassan has been pro censorship for a very long time.
00:29:39.000 Now he's getting a taste of his own medicine.
00:29:40.000 He always, like, when someone gets banned on Twitch that's like a right winger, like, yeah, get him out of here, blah, blah.
00:29:44.000 It's like, okay, dude.
00:29:45.000 He was never speaking up for you.
00:29:47.000 He wasn't speaking up for Fuentes.
00:29:48.000 He wasn't speaking up for Lauren Southern when she got banned.
00:29:50.000 He didn't speak up for the Christina Gomez, I think is her name.
00:29:54.000 Valentina Gomez?
00:29:55.000 Yeah, Valentina Gomez.
00:29:56.000 He didn't speak up for her.
00:29:57.000 When she was banned from the UK.
00:29:59.000 No one should feel bad for him.
00:30:00.000 No one should speak up in defense of him.
00:30:02.000 The UK doesn't have a First Amendment.
00:30:04.000 They can do whatever they want.
00:30:06.000 So Hassan can sit there and just cry.
00:30:09.000 They have an unwritten, they have a spoken constitution, an unwritten constitution, and free speech is a principle of it.
00:30:15.000 And I would argue that we are lying to ourselves about the US constitution being, you know, well, I'll say, I'll go halfway with this.
00:30:26.000 Obviously, there is something better than a written constitution.
00:30:28.000 That's why.
00:30:29.000 The founding fathers had this debate, and I believe it was the anti federalists who were like, we have to write it down.
00:30:34.000 But to be honest, writing it down means very little.
00:30:37.000 Well, it's like you said earlier the cops will only enforce a law in the city if they agree with the law in the city or if the people in the city agree with it.
00:30:42.000 So the Constitution is like a guideline, but if the cops and the populace don't want it, it's not about the cops agreeing with it.
00:30:47.000 It's about whether the cops feel like the public wants it to happen.
00:30:50.000 So, for instance, we have the First Amendment in this country, right?
00:30:50.000 Yeah.
00:30:53.000 But we're lying to ourselves to think there's any real protection of free speech.
00:31:00.000 And I think you could make the argument on censorship and the J Lobby or AIPEC or whatever, but we can easily just mention Cuomo shutting churches down in New York during COVID or just COVID in general.
00:31:09.000 The moment they decided to snap their fingers and tell you you had no rights, nothing happened other than your rights were taken from you.
00:31:15.000 I think that that's a 21st century development.
00:31:18.000 And I understand that you're going to make the argument about when the founders first had blasphemy laws and stuff.
00:31:24.000 But when the Skokie, Illinois topic came up in the 60s, whether or not the Nazis could march in Skokie, Illinois, that was kind of like the standard for.
00:31:32.000 From 1965 or whatever until basically the turn of the century.
00:31:36.000 But no, it wasn't.
00:31:38.000 George Carlin got arrested in the 70s for swearing.
00:31:42.000 Well, okay.
00:31:43.000 That's right.
00:31:44.000 And I think, was it like, didn't Lenny Bruce as well?
00:31:47.000 I don't know.
00:31:48.000 Public obscenity laws were in effect.
00:31:49.000 Like, it wasn't until the 90s, even in the 90s, you did not have free speech.
00:31:55.000 The public airwaves have been restricted since their inception with the government regulating your right to say words that were offensive.
00:32:03.000 This speaks to an idea that, or my.
00:32:06.000 Conception of freedom of speech.
00:32:08.000 When it comes to freedom of speech, you can basically articulate any argument that you want to make so long as you don't do it in a way that's intended to offend people.
00:32:18.000 If you're delicate about the way you say things like, whether it be Israel or whoever else or whatever else, you can kind of get away with it.
00:32:24.000 It's when you say things that are intentionally vulgar, intentionally trying to incite people, you know, upset people, attack targets.
00:32:30.000 Are you saying that's the way it should be?
00:32:32.000 I'm saying that that's generally the way that it is.
00:32:35.000 Obviously, it's an.
00:32:36.000 I don't think that's ever been the case.
00:32:36.000 I don't think so.
00:32:38.000 Articulating ideas.
00:32:39.000 Yeah, no, I don't think that's everybody's fault.
00:32:41.000 I think that in the early 2010s, people were getting censored from social media for posting crime statistics.
00:32:49.000 That's why I said up until the turn of the century.
00:32:52.000 Where are we talking like First Amendment?
00:32:52.000 In text, it's hard to do.
00:32:54.000 Are we talking like policy with Big Dad?
00:32:57.000 I still think it's fair to say even in the 2000s, if you wanted to hold a rally highlighting crime stats of the black community, you'd be rejected.
00:33:04.000 Like I said, that was after the turn of the century.
00:33:06.000 So after 2000 is when kind of the woke people started to.
00:33:11.000 To focus on, you know, you can say this, you cannot share this idea.
00:33:15.000 But prior to that, if you were delicate about sharing ideas.
00:33:19.000 You're making arguments for a narrow determination on what speech is allowed.
00:33:24.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:33:26.000 I think.
00:33:26.000 And I think, in turn, then, we agree there has never been true free speech in this country.
00:33:31.000 Again, if you want to articulate it like that, that's fine.
00:33:33.000 Then, yes, I would agree with you.
00:33:34.000 But I think the idea that the idea or the concept of free speech is more importantly about sharing an idea.
00:33:42.000 That is controversial as opposed to the way that you're saying it.
00:33:45.000 And I understand what you're saying.
00:33:46.000 It's not perfect.
00:33:47.000 I think we got the best system, but it's not perfect.
00:33:49.000 I would argue this.
00:33:50.000 Do you think that in 1995, if you wanted to get a permit for the National Mall for a Nambler rally, they would have permitted it?
00:34:00.000 I don't believe they would.
00:34:01.000 No, I don't know.
00:34:02.000 Probably not.
00:34:03.000 They would have found some reason to say, no, you can't do this.
00:34:07.000 Ultimately, the point is it's pretty fascinating to think we talk about free speech in this country.
00:34:11.000 In the 90s, the FCC, a federal regulator, which was created through an act of Congress and the executive branch, Enforced law against people from speaking certain obscene words.
00:34:25.000 Showing things.
00:34:26.000 There was butt crack on NYPD Balloon.
00:34:28.000 Well, that's different.
00:34:29.000 It was the first time butt crack was ever shown on like network TV.
00:34:31.000 Indeed, if you want to make an argument about images, there's a different argument there because speech, one could argue about images.
00:34:36.000 But the point is, they literally would criminalize, like you would get fined for saying a naughty word.
00:34:43.000 So where we are at now with the progressives, they think certain naughty words should not be allowed in the public space on social media, and they're carrying on the tradition of political power.
00:34:51.000 Shutting down what is viewed to be obscene that has existed in this country since its inception.
00:34:55.000 I like Phil's take.
00:34:56.000 I like it that you're saying it's about the intention because I'll bring up some pretty racy topics and even say words where you're like, how did he get away with that?
00:35:03.000 Because it's the way I'm saying it is with true intention of learning and helping.
00:35:06.000 To Tim's point about the, you know, whether or not you have a NAMBLA rally, probably not, but you couldn't go to jail for saying, look, I'm going to make the argument that it's not about jail.
00:35:15.000 It's about whether or not you, like, whether or not the government will act to restrict you in some way over your words, be it a.
00:35:23.000 Calmly articulated opinion on news and politics, or a vulgar and obscene tirade with slurs and insults.
00:35:31.000 I think the vulgar and obscene stuff is far more likely to get the attention of the state than a reasoned.
00:35:39.000 Look at the satanic panic.
00:35:41.000 They censored board games, Magic the Gathering, famously.
00:35:44.000 I've got one of the cards behind me.
00:35:46.000 It's called Unholy Strength.
00:35:47.000 The man is a pentagram.
00:35:49.000 And because of Tipper Gore, they forced Hasbro to remove a depiction of what is meant to show evil.
00:35:55.000 But wasn't that after.
00:35:56.000 After 2000?
00:35:57.000 No, no, that was 1993.
00:35:59.000 Yeah, it was early.
00:36:00.000 It was in 40.
00:36:01.000 In 1993, we were still dealing with satanic panic.
00:36:05.000 And so you had elements of the government say, we cannot allow this.
00:36:10.000 And it wasn't hazmat at the time, I think.
00:36:11.000 It was, you know, it was probably wizards, right?
00:36:13.000 Wizards of the Coast.
00:36:14.000 They had to remove because of the backlash.
00:36:16.000 So when, this is the important thing about what enforcement.
00:36:20.000 They didn't try to fight it?
00:36:22.000 What can you fight?
00:36:23.000 They did.
00:36:23.000 Let me put it this way.
00:36:23.000 They did.
00:36:24.000 It happened pretty quick.
00:36:26.000 If, let's say, like, I mean, maybe you're a little bit different, but for the average person who is selling.
00:36:32.000 Let's just say you've opened a flavored honey shop in New York City, and you've got a bunch of suppliers of various honeys from around the world.
00:36:40.000 And it's all you know, you're not political.
00:36:42.000 All of a sudden, some high ranking dude in the federal government just says, I hate you.
00:36:47.000 I don't care why I hate you.
00:36:49.000 I just do.
00:36:50.000 I am going to destroy your life.
00:36:52.000 You're like, bro, oh my God.
00:36:54.000 It doesn't matter.
00:36:55.000 Sounds like me.
00:36:56.000 It doesn't matter if there's a law on the book.
00:36:58.000 What matters is that this person in government says, I'm going to go to Congress.
00:37:01.000 And we're going to get a subpoena against you.
00:37:03.000 And no matter what you say, you're going to prison for perjury.
00:37:07.000 That's the power of government law.
00:37:08.000 This is the important thing that, like, the whole crux of this conversation and the point to be understood as it pertains to Hassan Piker.
00:37:15.000 I'm for censorship.
00:37:16.000 I've always been for censorship.
00:37:18.000 What I disagree with is silencing someone's ability to express a legitimate political worldview.
00:37:23.000 So, censorship is like child abuse material, murder, crime.
00:37:27.000 Like, we want people behind the scenes on social media to be removing that stuff because it should not be allowed.
00:37:33.000 But this acknowledges there is a limit.
00:37:36.000 That people are willing to accept in what we are allowed to say.
00:37:40.000 Someone might say, I think it should be the right of every American to show graphic depictions of gore and violence on these tech platforms because this is a natural part of the world and we shouldn't hide from it.
00:37:52.000 In fact, there's probably some dudes who are like, We're a bunch of pansies.
00:37:55.000 People, kids used to grow up seeing murder and mayhem and animals mauling each other and we've removed it.
00:38:00.000 I think we should be allowed to show it.
00:38:03.000 And so they hold up a big sign saying, Gore should not be censored.
00:38:08.000 I think it should be.
00:38:10.000 I'm like, I don't think you should be going on public showing children depictions of like serious murder, death, conflict, war, that kind of stuff.
00:38:18.000 I think it should be allowed, you know, on social media spaces, but there is a line where I'm like, education, historical.
00:38:25.000 Yeah, not in front of kids, not in front of kids.
00:38:27.000 So out in public marching on the sign, I'm not okay with that.
00:38:30.000 And the question ultimately becomes, are you willing to use power to enforce your moral worldview?
00:38:36.000 And it comes down to this in West Virginia, cohabitation, illegal.
00:38:42.000 No one's going to enforce against it because the truth is, no one cares.
00:38:45.000 Is common law marriage here a thing or no?
00:38:48.000 I don't.
00:38:49.000 Common law, I think, is a federal thing for the most part where you can choose to file jointly.
00:38:52.000 I don't think it's anything like I don't think they can.
00:38:54.000 Because I know some states, if you live together for long enough, they consider it common law.
00:38:57.000 But I think all that means is that you can file a joint claim.
00:39:01.000 Oh, yeah, for the purpose of the law.
00:39:02.000 That's what I meant.
00:39:03.000 That's why I was asking.
00:39:04.000 So here's the thing, though no modern American's morality is offended by the idea of a man and woman deciding to move in together.
00:39:12.000 Yeah.
00:39:13.000 It's just not.
00:39:14.000 Some people, yes, but not enough to where the police feel like it's going to be an issue.
00:39:18.000 However, where it gets interesting, most Americans oppose drag shows for and with children.
00:39:25.000 Yep.
00:39:25.000 The issue is the average American is terrified of far left terror and extremism, so they shut their mouths and let it happen.
00:39:32.000 The right has been unwilling to operate in the way the left has operated.
00:39:39.000 The only mainstream major political violence we've seen in the past 10 years on the right is January 6th.
00:39:44.000 Yep.
00:39:45.000 For the left, there's over 475 different instances, incidents, where mainstream left, I'm not talking about fringe extremists, I'm talking about when you take the liberal Democrat manifesto and the conservative Republican manifesto, apply that, and then ask, based on these worldviews, who commits violence?
00:40:04.000 Republicans won, Democrats 475 plus.
00:40:07.000 Yeah, I was literally having a discussion on this.
00:40:10.000 I've always said that progressives are far more likely to go out, demonstrate, protest, get out there.
00:40:14.000 You know what I mean?
00:40:15.000 Actually, like, You know, put some muscle behind their belief system.
00:40:18.000 And a part of progressive, it's literally in the name.
00:40:21.000 They want to progress.
00:40:22.000 A lot of times for them, they look at violence as a viable option to progress versus conservatives are trying to conserve what we already have.
00:40:29.000 So, progressives, it's in the name.
00:40:30.000 Like, they're totally okay with violence.
00:40:32.000 And, like, anyone, someone made some argument like, oh, actually, conservatives are more violent.
00:40:35.000 We looked at the ADL and I'm like, dude, the ADL will go ahead and look at like two white dudes fighting in a prison and consider that a form of violence.
00:40:42.000 They literally had the stats.
00:40:43.000 I think it was Cato, a white supremacist who punched his wife was listed as white supremacist violent.
00:40:48.000 Yes.
00:40:48.000 They literally use anything, dude.
00:40:50.000 They literally, two white dudes can find a prison and use it.
00:40:51.000 But my argument for that, maybe I'll appear on Jubilee and this will come up.
00:40:56.000 My argument on that is conservatives don't know how to have a conversation because everything exists in the liberal framework.
00:41:02.000 So when someone says something to me like, you know, when you, like the right is more responsible for violence, my response is that, my response is.
00:41:10.000 I laugh when they say that.
00:41:11.000 Well, that's fine, but what does right mean?
00:41:14.000 So is it meaningful to the American voter to include, I don't know, like, The 10,000 Klan members or white supremacists that exist in this country with the mainstream Republican Party.
00:41:26.000 And they can argue, yes, but I'll say, listen, Charlie Kirk kicked these people out of his events.
00:41:31.000 He censored them.
00:41:33.000 He agreed with you in that regard.
00:41:34.000 So, when you're talking about the right engaging in violence, and I don't care what your criteria, like the extent of violence might be, like a white supremacist punching his wife, that's fine.
00:41:42.000 Put it on the list.
00:41:43.000 That has no bearing on the Republican Party because the Republican Party already condemned white supremacy.
00:41:47.000 So, it's not meaningful to me in any way to include fringe leftist or right wing elements.
00:41:55.000 If there is a tanky wearing, you know, like RevCom, you know RevCom?
00:41:59.000 Revolutionary Communist Party.
00:41:59.000 No.
00:42:01.000 They wear boots and uniforms and they actually goose step and march at protests.
00:42:05.000 Now, As far as I know, they don't engage in any extreme violence.
00:42:07.000 But my point is.
00:42:08.000 Is this the Antifa offshoot of Antifa or some kind of.
00:42:10.000 No, they're unrelated.
00:42:11.000 Okay.
00:42:11.000 They are like a fringe weirdo element on the left and they organize.
00:42:14.000 Now, if this guy punches his wife and you put on the list saying a revolutionary communist engaged in an act of violence, I would respond the exact same way.
00:42:24.000 What that man does has no bearing on what the Democratic Party says they want or their ideologies.
00:42:31.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:42:32.000 When you take a look at the motivations of the Democratic Party and their candidates, We see lots of violence.
00:42:38.000 We see them saying Elon Musk is bad, the billionaires are bad, and what happens?
00:42:42.000 They go and shoot up Tesla facilities.
00:42:44.000 They say trans people are being genocided.
00:42:47.000 What happens?
00:42:48.000 A bunch of trans people go and shoot up schools.
00:42:50.000 On the right, they say Donald Trump was unlawfully arrested, our borders are being opened.
00:42:54.000 Not one instance of a Republican motivated by illegal immigration going to the border and trying to stop people from entering this country.
00:43:04.000 I think that a lot of right wing violence is unseen, you might call it, like the banality of violence, because it's like, 136 school children in Iran getting killed with a drone set.
00:43:13.000 How is that right wing violence?
00:43:15.000 That's the military.
00:43:16.000 Hillary Clinton advocated for it the same.
00:43:17.000 She's a Democrat.
00:43:18.000 Well, she's pretty hardcore.
00:43:20.000 I should say, what would you call it?
00:43:22.000 The established order, which happens to be right wing.
00:43:24.000 Has nothing to do with the manifestos, the espoused ideologies of the Republican versus Democratic parties.
00:43:29.000 It is not meaningful to an American voter when trying to decide which party to vote for to say that there is a neoconservative, neoliberal establishment that wants war.
00:43:38.000 They'll all say we disagree.
00:43:39.000 The general conservative would be like, look, close the borders and let everyone outside starve.
00:43:43.000 I don't care about them, they're not my problem.
00:43:44.000 And you, and the numbers on the left were like, that's violence.
00:43:46.000 That's the passive banality of violence I brought up when you're letting people die.
00:43:50.000 That's not actively hurting.
00:43:51.000 Okay, let's go back to the conversation we were actually having about people motivated by an ideology to kill others.
00:43:58.000 Okay, there's a big difference between saying, unfortunately, somewhere around the world people are dying, and Democrats saying, I'm going to get a gun and go shoot someone.
00:44:05.000 I mean, it's acceptable.
00:44:07.000 You could argue it's not violence at all.
00:44:08.000 Letting other people die?
00:44:10.000 It's not the definition of violence, it's an intentional act to cause damage.
00:44:13.000 To a person or a piece of property.
00:44:14.000 When you corral people in an area or when you take their food supply away, you're starving them at their dying.
00:44:20.000 War is violence.
00:44:21.000 Both Democrats and Republicans agree with war, and we're all mad about it.
00:44:21.000 Agreed.
00:44:24.000 You're doing the same thing that Democrats do all the time.
00:44:25.000 They say that, you know, basically change the definition of a word to make it an argument.
00:44:31.000 And violence is an actual thing with a specific definition.
00:44:34.000 When you say, oh, we're not going to continue to send you food aid, that's not violence.
00:44:38.000 Well, the CIA calls it violence.
00:44:39.000 I don't care what the CIA definition is.
00:44:41.000 I don't care what the CIA.
00:44:42.000 No, pull up that.
00:44:44.000 Going back to the whole thing with the left violence or whatever.
00:44:48.000 You look at BLM, right, after the George Floyd incident, right?
00:44:51.000 They can burn down Minneapolis.
00:44:52.000 And did we see the same level of police presence and investigation on an unprecedented scale like January 6th?
00:44:57.000 No.
00:44:58.000 And I would say, for conservatives, the reason why there's two main reasons why conservatives are not as active politically from a physical sense.
00:45:05.000 Number one, a lot of them have jobs, have families.
00:45:07.000 They don't want to necessarily lose their jobs, they have things to do, a lot to lose.
00:45:10.000 They tend to be a little bit older, more mature.
00:45:12.000 And the other reason is because right wing groups have almost always been infiltrated by law enforcement at a significantly higher level than the left.
00:45:18.000 You look at Antifa, BLM, et cetera.
00:45:20.000 They've been able to operate with almost impunity.
00:45:21.000 Look at the ICE raids.
00:45:22.000 You know, they're not going to be in New Jersey anymore.
00:45:24.000 I'd argue they're in New Jersey as well.
00:45:25.000 Yeah.
00:45:25.000 So it's like, you know, they've been able to operate with a significant level of impunity compared to the right wing.
00:45:25.000 They're intentional law enforcement.
00:45:30.000 And then again, I think it's almost etched into their ideology because in order for us to progress, we must do anything by any means necessary.
00:45:37.000 And that means violence for them.
00:45:38.000 I mean, it's very, very simple.
00:45:41.000 Democrats say we need to shut.
00:45:43.000 Right now, you've got Baraka in Newark trying to shut down the ICE facility.
00:45:48.000 And you have far leftists attacking police forces and police engaging in violence.
00:45:54.000 When Joe Biden was allowing millions to illegally enter the country, Republicans did not go out and riot.
00:46:00.000 And attack cops or do anything like this.
00:46:03.000 The stated ideologies of each party are plainly visible.
00:46:09.000 Conservatives don't get violent over these ideologies.
00:46:13.000 There are fringe wacko elements of nationalism that exist on the right.
00:46:17.000 Republicans condemn them.
00:46:18.000 On the left, they embrace them.
00:46:20.000 That's the point.
00:46:20.000 Well, it seems like there's a structure that the people, the conservative people, want to maintain that's destroying and raping the planet, you could argue.
00:46:28.000 40 trillion in debt.
00:46:29.000 You'd be wrong.
00:46:30.000 The people on the left want to.
00:46:32.000 Break and destroy that structure.
00:46:33.000 The people on the right are like, We just need to maintain the structure.
00:46:35.000 So if we fight you, it all comes tumbling down.
00:46:37.000 So we can't fight.
00:46:38.000 But we know, I know that there's.
00:46:40.000 Okay, okay.
00:46:41.000 Can we just stop?
00:46:42.000 It's rolling.
00:46:42.000 Because this is what you're saying.
00:46:44.000 If you want to, if you have an actual argument, make an argument.
00:46:46.000 But I feel.
00:46:48.000 About what exactly?
00:46:48.000 Like the idea that Democrat donors aren't billionaires who run big corporations is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
00:46:54.000 That's not what I said, though.
00:46:55.000 Yeah, you said the Republicans want to maintain a system that rape and pillages the earth.
00:46:58.000 The Democrats want to stop.
00:46:59.000 That's not true.
00:46:59.000 I didn't say Republicans.
00:47:00.000 I said conservative people want to conserve the structure that they live within.
00:47:03.000 The liberal, the people who want to change it, will get more radically violent to affect change with it.
00:47:08.000 And the changes they want to bring about are the same as what the status quo is.
00:47:11.000 It's just a different power structure.
00:47:13.000 Well, the people, the leftist revolutionary wants to break it.
00:47:16.000 I've seen people like nihilists.
00:47:18.000 You are incorrect.
00:47:18.000 But the people, the conservative people want to maintain it.
00:47:21.000 Right.
00:47:21.000 So let me clarify for you the leftists want to control it, and the conservatives want to live in America under the existing power structures.
00:47:28.000 Well, they all want to control it.
00:47:30.000 Correct.
00:47:31.000 I think that you're right.
00:47:32.000 So the motivations of the left are built around destroying the traditional American system.
00:47:36.000 And the conservatives is maintaining a traditional American system.
00:47:38.000 So it's hard to fight against someone that wants to destroy.
00:47:38.000 Right.
00:47:41.000 Like, how do you destroy, like, it'd be getting into a fight with your friend in your house and throwing him into your wall and breaking your mirrors.
00:47:47.000 Like, who wins?
00:47:48.000 Nobody wins if you're destroying your own house.
00:47:50.000 Right.
00:47:50.000 So your analogy is that there are two friends in a house, and one guy says, This is my house.
00:47:55.000 Please, I don't want to fight.
00:47:56.000 And the other guy says, I'm going to bash you with a frying pan.
00:47:58.000 Pretty much.
00:47:58.000 Right.
00:47:59.000 And that's what the Democrats are doing.
00:48:00.000 And the Republicans don't get violent.
00:48:02.000 I don't know if it's a political party thing.
00:48:04.000 It's more about a leftism and rightism mentality.
00:48:06.000 It's not.
00:48:08.000 The whole point is that both political parties have what's called a manifesto.
00:48:11.000 They release these periodically where they explain the principal positions of the party.
00:48:17.000 Over time, we have seen the Democratic Party adopt fringe far left elements, including socialist and communist practitioners.
00:48:24.000 In fact, they've incorporated the Democratic Socialists into the umbrella of the Democratic Party.
00:48:29.000 From the ideologies espoused from the top down, from the political parties, the Republican ideology of we want secure borders, we want our manufacturing back, we do not see violence.
00:48:40.000 On the left, we want Trans kids, we want open borders.
00:48:44.000 We see explicit violence to those ends.
00:48:47.000 That's the point I'm making.
00:48:48.000 Now, of course, there are violent right wingers somewhere with some fringe ideology.
00:48:52.000 There are violent left wingers out there with fringe ideology.
00:48:55.000 I don't care if RevCom punches his wife, and I don't care if a white supremacist punches his wife.
00:49:01.000 If you want to call either of those political violence, there's no bearing on what that means for the structure of institutional governance.
00:49:09.000 What I'm trying to explain is like, if you had an opportunity and you're like, listen, you two, stop fighting, both of you, stop fighting.
00:49:09.000 You understand?
00:49:15.000 Or I'm taking your food away.
00:49:16.000 And the people are like, what?
00:49:17.000 And you're like, okay, I'm taking your food away now.
00:49:20.000 And then they start.
00:49:21.000 If this is just the thing, you have two guys in a cage and you're feeding them.
00:49:24.000 You decide one day, I'm gonna take your food.
00:49:26.000 And then they start smashing the walls of the cage.
00:49:29.000 You can see how taking their food away is a violent act.
00:49:32.000 That is incorrect.
00:49:32.000 Well, violence is defined as an intentional action to cause damage to a person or property.
00:49:40.000 Physical force exerted for the purpose of causing damage or injury.
00:49:42.000 So if you take someone's food, that's a forceful act of causing injury.
00:49:47.000 I think you're stretching the definition.
00:49:49.000 Damn, but it's real.
00:49:50.000 It's real.
00:49:50.000 That's what they think is going on in Gaza.
00:49:51.000 I mean, that's what they think the Israelis are doing to the country.
00:49:53.000 Okay, Ian, the Democrats and Republicans agree on war and agree on supporting Israel.
00:50:00.000 A bunch of pro Israel candidates just won their primaries in Illinois.
00:50:04.000 We've covered this.
00:50:05.000 There is no distinction in the political party.
00:50:09.000 Would you agree that political party wise, at the top, there's no distinction between their support for Israel?
00:50:14.000 Yeah, no, it's that they unequip both sides support this.
00:50:16.000 And we are not seeing in the American Democrats are trying to slow it down a little bit, but they're still.
00:50:21.000 Well, that's the progressive element.
00:50:22.000 Yes, yes.
00:50:23.000 Incorporated in it that is trying to get the Democrats.
00:50:24.000 Like the mayor of Mazdani's and stuff like that, which I do predict that, like, that's going to be the new strategy for the left, but.
00:50:30.000 But basically, in general, Democrats and Republicans both love Israel.
00:50:35.000 The point is, both political parties at the top will say something like Israel is our greatest ally.
00:50:41.000 Yep.
00:50:42.000 Passed with like 90% support.
00:50:44.000 I did elaborate that I'm not talking about Republicans and Democrats as much.
00:50:47.000 You might be.
00:50:48.000 I'm talking about leftism and rightism.
00:50:50.000 The way that you could argue that far leftists will use a military machine, but they're more likely to break their own machines.
00:50:56.000 Was Shea Guevara a peace loving hippie?
00:50:58.000 No, he was a brutal murderer.
00:51:00.000 And people like Hassan Piker, they love him.
00:51:03.000 They've called for more violence than anyone on the right.
00:51:07.000 Him and Mao.
00:51:09.000 They're not saying you're violent.
00:51:10.000 Hassan is a multi millionaire.
00:51:12.000 He lives in a mansion in California.
00:51:15.000 He wears luxury designer clothes and chains as he goes to Cuba to talk about the plight of the poor communist victims.
00:51:22.000 These people are not interested in fighting for justice.
00:51:25.000 They're fighting for more money and power for themselves.
00:51:27.000 The other side is the dude sitting back, smoking a cigar, laughing about what's happening on TV as kids are getting blown up by their own tax dollars.
00:51:33.000 I kind of see both your perspectives here.
00:51:35.000 My thing is, I think what we're kind of saying is like within the left, you know, violence is a bit more caked into the ideology because to progress, you inevitably have to like change things and to change things, violence might be a variable that's needed versus on the right wing, right?
00:51:49.000 You're there to conserve what you have.
00:51:50.000 I just think that the right is composed of a.
00:51:54.000 It's, you know, Curtis Yarvin said it best that Republicans treat power like a wine snob treats alcohol and Democrats treat power like an alcoholic treats alcohol.
00:52:05.000 Or, yeah.
00:52:06.000 Right.
00:52:07.000 So Republicans say, well, you know, I find that to be just so appalling.
00:52:13.000 I'm going to make a phone call.
00:52:14.000 And Democrats are like, I'm going to throw a Molotov cocktail at your house.
00:52:17.000 Do you think Obama was like the last conservative Democrat?
00:52:20.000 I think Obama was the, I think George W. Bush was the last American president.
00:52:25.000 Well, technically Trump is because he wrestled the power back.
00:52:28.000 But Barack Obama represented the, like a spike in the back of America as a country in terms of its traditions and values.
00:52:35.000 Like it wasn't like that for the first seven months.
00:52:38.000 Like Obama to me represents a fundamental shift in this country towards communism, like Marxism, cultural Marxism, critical race theory.
00:52:47.000 I agree.
00:52:48.000 I've always said that Obama kind of started a lot of the culture war problems we're fighting now, like gay marriage, you know, BLM, all this stuff.
00:52:55.000 Like he was the beginning of ushering that stuff.
00:52:57.000 Yeah, I mean, DACA is the greatest betrayal of this country in a long time, in my opinion.
00:53:03.000 And I want to be careful how I see the problems in many betrayals.
00:53:05.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:53:07.000 But the idea that the president could decree.
00:53:09.000 A law that allows non citizens to live here under some, some like, under a decree.
00:53:16.000 And then when Donald Trump said, we reject this, and Donald Trump signed an executive order ending DACA, the courts said he can't do that, which is fake.
00:53:26.000 If the president can create an executive order saying, do not enforce immigration law, the next president can say, start enforcing the law again.
00:53:34.000 And the courts barred ICE from actually enforcing the law, which makes no sense.
00:53:40.000 Well, I can tell you this because I worked for the government both under Obama and under Trump.
00:53:40.000 It's unconstitutional.
00:53:44.000 And, like, yeah, like under Obama, but whenever there's a Democrat in office, They obviously really let their foot off the gas when it comes to immigration.
00:53:51.000 And they're almost like not interested in doing any type of interior enforcement.
00:53:55.000 And then people say, oh, well, you know what?
00:53:57.000 Obama actually deported more people.
00:53:58.000 Well, the reason for that is because more illegal aliens come into the country to attempt to come in.
00:54:02.000 Therefore, they're apprehended and then they're immediately deported.
00:54:05.000 That's where those deportation numbers come from.
00:54:07.000 But the real immigration enforcement is within the cities in the interior.
00:54:11.000 That's where the work really happens.
00:54:12.000 And that's what Trump was trying to do before, obviously, they stopped everything.
00:54:15.000 But yeah.
00:54:16.000 Let's, I want to talk about Chad the Builder, but I do want to talk about.
00:54:19.000 Okay.
00:54:19.000 We'll get into that for sure because we got an update on his bail.
00:54:22.000 I want to talk about the story first.
00:54:23.000 We have some TMZ.
00:54:24.000 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna reveals to Jacob Was that she was assaulted during the Capitol Hill protest.
00:54:31.000 This is shocking to me.
00:54:33.000 So, what I first want to do is show you what Rep. Luna said, and then I'm going to show you the shocking assault video.
00:54:38.000 And I'm telling you, your jaw will hit the floor when you see what was done to this rep. Questioning Senator Rubio on Code Pink, which is a foreign funded organization.
00:54:50.000 And I've been going after Farah, et cetera.
00:54:52.000 And so as I was leaving, they were asking questions.
00:54:54.000 I don't have an issue asking questions, but when you were berating me and trying to block me from being able to come vote, it's an issue.
00:54:59.000 But I continued to answer them.
00:55:00.000 I was walking out of Rayburn, and as we were trying to walk away from them, I guess they didn't like what I was saying.
00:55:07.000 So one of the lead organizers actually smacked me.
00:55:09.000 And so at that point, I broke contact.
00:55:11.000 Can you reenact how you were hit?
00:55:15.000 I was literally walking, trying to walk away from this person, and they smacked me.
00:55:19.000 In what part of the body?
00:55:20.000 Smacked my arm.
00:55:22.000 Are you injured right now?
00:55:22.000 Smacked her.
00:55:24.000 I mean, look, either which way, you don't touch anyone, especially if you don't like what they're saying.
00:55:29.000 You cannot physically touch them.
00:55:30.000 She was smacked.
00:55:31.000 She was smacked.
00:55:31.000 It is shocking.
00:55:33.000 And we have the explosive, explosive video right here showing the actual assault, my friends.
00:55:39.000 When you see this, when you see this, my God.
00:55:43.000 The government can get money to keep the hospitals going.
00:55:48.000 Just wait.
00:55:48.000 No, just wait.
00:55:50.000 Been sanctioning the Cuban people, which is hurting them by the billions.
00:55:55.000 By the billions.
00:55:57.000 No, that hurts the people there.
00:55:58.000 They have no power.
00:56:00.000 You are misinformed.
00:56:01.000 Wait, you just touched me.
00:56:03.000 Oh, it was like, I'm sorry.
00:56:05.000 It doesn't matter.
00:56:05.000 You just touched me.
00:56:06.000 You're going to walk away right now or something to call capital.
00:56:08.000 Oh, don't touch me.
00:56:09.000 Bye bye.
00:56:09.000 I'll walk away.
00:56:11.000 Here you go.
00:56:11.000 That's Medea Benjamin.
00:56:12.000 Wait, wait.
00:56:13.000 She knows.
00:56:13.000 Bam.
00:56:14.000 My God.
00:56:15.000 Did you see that?
00:56:16.000 Did you see the quick.
00:56:17.000 Can we get that again?
00:56:18.000 Look at this.
00:56:19.000 That crushing blow.
00:56:21.000 Is that Medea Benjamin?
00:56:22.000 Yeah.
00:56:22.000 I don't think it is.
00:56:23.000 Are you sure?
00:56:23.000 I think so.
00:56:24.000 She's like the founder of Left Wing Violence.
00:56:25.000 Look at that.
00:56:26.000 My God.
00:56:26.000 Left Wing Violence.
00:56:27.000 This Antifa terrorist communist nearly shattered the arm of Rep Luna.
00:56:32.000 She's lucky to have survived this encounter.
00:56:34.000 She was.
00:56:35.000 Are you kidding me, dude?
00:56:36.000 This is why I hate politics so much.
00:56:38.000 And you know, we're working on setting up like a DC studio because we want to bring, you know, members of Congress in, have conversations.
00:56:44.000 But are you kidding me?
00:56:45.000 Am I supposed to pretend to support the Republican Party over things like this?
00:56:50.000 Rep Luna's like, I was smacked.
00:56:51.000 She tapped your shoulder to get your attention.
00:56:51.000 No, you weren't.
00:56:53.000 My God.
00:56:54.000 I hate politics.
00:56:55.000 I hate politicians.
00:56:56.000 They're all nuts.
00:56:57.000 She got PTSD from the strip club when they would smack her back then.
00:57:00.000 I guess.
00:57:01.000 I guess.
00:57:02.000 I mean, it's.
00:57:04.000 Well, she doesn't like me anyway because I called her out when she tried to, when she introduced remote voting for Congress because she was like, women have babies, therefore they don't have to come to work anymore.
00:57:13.000 And I'm just like, I'm just, I'm so done with this, dude.
00:57:15.000 Why are women voting?
00:57:16.000 Why are what?
00:57:17.000 Why are women voting?
00:57:18.000 Why aren't they?
00:57:18.000 I'm just kidding.
00:57:19.000 I was going to say, why are they voting?
00:57:20.000 She was fighting on Democrats because, like, we just had babies, therefore we should have to come into work.
00:57:24.000 And I'm like, then resign.
00:57:26.000 Yeah.
00:57:27.000 This is insane.
00:57:28.000 Opening the door to remote voting.
00:57:29.000 So she doesn't like me anyway.
00:57:31.000 But good.
00:57:32.000 I mean, clearly she's a person of bad moral character.
00:57:37.000 The way.
00:57:38.000 I think that is Medea Benjamin.
00:57:38.000 I'm doubling.
00:57:39.000 I'm 100% positive.
00:57:41.000 99.99998.
00:57:44.000 She's great.
00:57:44.000 I've followed her work for 15, 20 years.
00:57:46.000 She was very anti war early on.
00:57:47.000 I still think she probably.
00:57:49.000 Complains about things that she doesn't have solutions for.
00:57:52.000 So I'd like to debate her and get her head straight if I can.
00:57:54.000 There she is again on the left, code pink, Medea Benjamin.
00:57:56.000 Great.
00:57:57.000 She'd be a great guest someday.
00:57:58.000 And what she did there was like what you would do with a friend while you're talking about football or something.
00:58:01.000 You're like, bro.
00:58:02.000 And then you tap him on the shoulder.
00:58:03.000 She obviously, and she knew immediately that legally she probably did step over a little bit.
00:58:07.000 You know what I can't stand?
00:58:08.000 Like I'm watching these Jubilee debates, you know, like Dave Rubin just did one and it's gone viral.
00:58:13.000 Yeah.
00:58:13.000 And I'm not going to say this of Dave because I didn't watch the full thing.
00:58:15.000 I just watched clips.
00:58:16.000 But there are these conservatives that live in a tribal reality where it's like, I must defend my side no matter what.
00:58:21.000 Democrats do this too.
00:58:22.000 Yeah.
00:58:23.000 And so you watch, I saw this video and I was like, is she insane?
00:58:28.000 The woman tapped her arm to get her attention because she was having a conversation with her and then said, don't touch me or call the police.
00:58:34.000 And what's going to happen now?
00:58:36.000 They're going to use this.
00:58:37.000 They're going to go to young people and say, look at what Republicans are doing.
00:58:40.000 They lie about violence, they lie about the assault.
00:58:43.000 And what they're going to say is, you know how Republicans are always claiming the left is violent?
00:58:48.000 Look at this video of Rep Luna.
00:58:49.000 This is what they claim violence is getting a tap on the arm.
00:58:52.000 And then people are going to be like, wow, they're lying about everything.
00:58:54.000 It's a good, it's an important combo because.
00:58:56.000 It is, it's not sustainable to reach out and touch politicians on the arm while you're walking with them.
00:59:01.000 If somebody gets 50 people in a course of seven minutes coming up and touching them, that's a big problem.
00:59:01.000 Come on.
00:59:07.000 So, it scales differently.
00:59:08.000 It scales out of hand.
00:59:09.000 So, I regret it that you're not supposed to, but she could have said it in a better way than I got assaulted or attacked.
00:59:14.000 She didn't say assault.
00:59:14.000 Smacked.
00:59:15.000 She said, smacked.
00:59:16.000 She said, she put her hand on me and it wasn't cool.
00:59:19.000 You're not supposed to do that.
00:59:20.000 And she knew and she stood back.
00:59:22.000 So, like, no drama.
00:59:23.000 She touched me.
00:59:25.000 She knew she wasn't supposed to be reaching out and touching politicians.
00:59:25.000 That's it.
00:59:28.000 She's recoiled.
00:59:29.000 Are you joking?
00:59:30.000 I think she knows you're not really technically supposed to reach out and touch someone on Capitol Hill while they're.
00:59:35.000 Yeah, you, you, like, there's a difference between touching someone with intent to cause harm and in the course of a conversation, tapping someone's shoulder down.
00:59:42.000 If she intended harm, she'd be arrested right now.
00:59:44.000 But she'd.
00:59:45.000 For Rep Luna to say she was smacked is a lie.
00:59:49.000 That elderly woman tapped her arm during a conversation.
00:59:51.000 It's still Man Luna.
00:59:53.000 Maybe she was swinging her arm back kind of hard when Benjamin tapped her.
00:59:57.000 She wasn't walking.
00:59:57.000 She wasn't walking.
00:59:58.000 She was smacky.
00:59:59.000 I couldn't tell because her clothing was draping.
01:00:02.000 I'm not saying this happened.
01:00:03.000 I'm just trying to think.
01:00:04.000 Because her clothing was draping.
01:00:06.000 Yeah.
01:00:07.000 So, like, how are we supposed to win a culture war with things like this?
01:00:13.000 It's exhausting.
01:00:15.000 And it does make, you know, it makes Luna seem, you know, unsafe.
01:00:19.000 I have a solution for Myron.
01:00:21.000 What is it?
01:00:21.000 No women allowed to hold office anymore.
01:00:23.000 Dude, I've been saying that.
01:00:25.000 Welcome to my world.
01:00:26.000 Repeal the 19th.
01:00:27.000 Get them out of there.
01:00:28.000 No more power for them.
01:00:29.000 Only men.
01:00:30.000 Put them back in the kitchen.
01:00:31.000 This is all kitchen.
01:00:32.000 Like, The problem is that it's actually women that are great at it.
01:00:36.000 The problem is not women.
01:00:40.000 There are some base women, for sure.
01:00:41.000 The problem is we also have low T guys.
01:00:43.000 Yeah.
01:00:44.000 And low T guys are deferential in a lot of ways and they lie.
01:00:50.000 They're almost worse, dude.
01:00:51.000 They're almost worse in some ways.
01:00:52.000 It's so amazing that I want the world to know.
01:00:55.000 And so, like Hillary, Bill really elevated Hillary Clinton to power.
01:00:58.000 Yeah, but that's because it's fake.
01:01:01.000 Bill and I'd be willing to bet a large amount of money those people hate each other.
01:01:05.000 Billy and Hill.
01:01:06.000 Yeah.
01:01:07.000 Like these, these, these couple, like I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that like Barack and Michelle don't like each other either.
01:01:15.000 Oh, really?
01:01:15.000 I don't know.
01:01:15.000 Yeah.
01:01:17.000 Like, I would say, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I don't want to be too overtly biased.
01:01:17.000 Maybe.
01:01:22.000 I would just say that a lot of these relationships are orchestrated for political purposes.
01:01:26.000 Absolutely.
01:01:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:01:27.000 Absolutely.
01:01:27.000 I believe.
01:01:28.000 So, one thing, I'll give a pass.
01:01:29.000 Being married is huge for your political career.
01:01:30.000 Of course.
01:01:31.000 Like, Tim Scott got married, and everybody called it, everyone was like, he's gay.
01:01:34.000 And he's like, I'm getting married because he wanted to be VP.
01:01:36.000 Now, the thing about Trump is that he's been with Melania a lot longer than he was running for office.
01:01:41.000 And he was, he's doing it.
01:01:44.000 Like, the reason Donald Trump married her is because she's a hot, Eastern European model, you know what I mean?
01:01:48.000 Like, smart too.
01:01:49.000 She knows a bunch of languages.
01:01:50.000 She's very intelligent.
01:01:50.000 It's true.
01:01:52.000 But not every marriage is for political purposes, but I think Bill and Hillary was.
01:01:57.000 I think so.
01:01:57.000 They were both politically ambitious in college.
01:01:59.000 I mean, they met in college.
01:02:00.000 And I think the issue was that Hillary knew she could not have executive power as a woman.
01:02:04.000 So she was like, we need to work together.
01:02:08.000 You're going to run.
01:02:09.000 And then that's why she got, she ran for Senate.
01:02:11.000 She got a State Department job.
01:02:12.000 And then she tried being president because it was her turn and Trump took it away from her.
01:02:14.000 There's a phenomenon where the guy gets obsessed with his wife, loves his wife, sees the power in his wife, and wants to elevate the woman to a position of social authority.
01:02:21.000 But then she gets there and it's like, you're just, no offense, you're just a woman.
01:02:27.000 Like, you're just a guy.
01:02:29.000 That was substantially more brutal than anything Myron said.
01:02:29.000 Sounds right.
01:02:32.000 I said, you're just a woman.
01:02:33.000 It's not about like sex or whatever.
01:02:35.000 You're just another random dude that happens to be female.
01:02:39.000 But hold on, I got to throw this in there because I'm imagining like Myron debating Kyla or something.
01:02:45.000 And you say something like, women do this and they behave this way.
01:02:48.000 And because of this, I think this.
01:02:49.000 And she'll be like, yes, women may behave that way, but also women can do this.
01:02:53.000 And then Ian goes, you're just a woman.
01:02:55.000 Yeah.
01:02:55.000 Yeah.
01:02:56.000 And then we just show the book.
01:02:57.000 This is why you guys deserve less.
01:02:59.000 You know, so it's just.
01:03:00.000 Like, the insinuation from that statement is a complete stripping of all.
01:03:05.000 Yeah.
01:03:06.000 Like, he's arguing key points.
01:03:08.000 They're not good at it.
01:03:08.000 You just flat out.
01:03:09.000 Yeah.
01:03:09.000 You're a female.
01:03:10.000 Done.
01:03:12.000 I've been with girls where I became so in love with them that I wanted the world to see them, but they weren't that great to the rest of the world.
01:03:18.000 Just to me.
01:03:19.000 We call that cucking.
01:03:21.000 Did you guys see the Jerry O'Connell clip?
01:03:24.000 Which clip?
01:03:24.000 The Jerry O'Connell clip.
01:03:25.000 I saw it.
01:03:26.000 It's from Jamie Kennedy's show.
01:03:28.000 I didn't listen to it.
01:03:29.000 Bro, he's like.
01:03:30.000 Pull it up if you want.
01:03:31.000 He's like, let me see.
01:03:32.000 Yeah, let me see if I can get this one.
01:03:33.000 It was from.
01:03:33.000 You're calling me a cock.
01:03:35.000 I think I got it right here, actually.
01:03:38.000 Yeah, actually, I think this deserves its own segment.
01:03:40.000 So let me, let me, let me, give me, give me a little bit.
01:03:42.000 We'll wrap up this point, like wrap up a point for our next segment.
01:03:44.000 That's pretty much it that sometimes inadvertently guys will put their woman into positions of authority where, because they love them so much, but the rest of the world's like, why is it this chick?
01:03:53.000 I mean, I assume that's true, but in the case of Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, I don't think that that was the case.
01:03:58.000 I think that Hillary Clinton had her own ambition.
01:04:01.000 She was an extremely ambitious woman or is.
01:04:04.000 So, yeah, I don't think it was just Bill being like, let me show off my girlfriend.
01:04:08.000 Yeah, I think Bill, I mean, come on.
01:04:10.000 Like, Bill was probably banging a bunch of people on Epstein Island.
01:04:12.000 You know what I mean?
01:04:13.000 Like, he didn't care about Hillary.
01:04:14.000 Yeah.
01:04:15.000 He was just like, I hate women.
01:04:16.000 Oh, stoner with a law degree.
01:04:19.000 Did you pull up that?
01:04:20.000 Jerry O'Connell.
01:04:20.000 Yeah.
01:04:21.000 Yeah, let's grab this.
01:04:22.000 We got this clip from Jamie Kennedy's show, which is taken off.
01:04:25.000 Like, what is this?
01:04:26.000 It's got millions, 2.2 million views.
01:04:30.000 Jerry O'Connell went on Bill Maher and said that his wife beats him whenever he says anything pro Trump.
01:04:35.000 And so now he's being called a cuck.
01:04:37.000 And.
01:04:38.000 He makes some very vital mistakes in this interview.
01:04:40.000 He actually asks Jamie as a joke to come and bang his wife.
01:04:47.000 The problem is, someone's going to clip it out of context where he literally says, Please come, you know.
01:04:52.000 Well, you were scared to come on this pod.
01:04:55.000 Yeah, I was.
01:04:56.000 I said I wasn't going to do it because I said I'd never give up.
01:04:58.000 I said I was never doing podcasts again.
01:05:01.000 For those who don't know, I was on Bill Maher and I.
01:05:05.000 A couple things.
01:05:06.000 I talked about my family.
01:05:07.000 I didn't lip it.
01:05:09.000 I talked about my.
01:05:11.000 Wife, and I talked about their reactions politically.
01:05:15.000 You know, I shouldn't have done that.
01:05:16.000 What you did was you said that if you said something positive about Trumpy.
01:05:22.000 No, no, I never said that.
01:05:23.000 But you said something that you were going to get beaten.
01:05:26.000 I never said anything positive about Trump.
01:05:28.000 I never said anything positive about Trump.
01:05:31.000 I never said anything positive.
01:05:35.000 Anyway, I'm going to tell you what happened.
01:05:38.000 Tell me.
01:05:40.000 MAGA, the.
01:05:44.000 The force known as MAGA, which is abbreviated for Make America Great Again.
01:05:48.000 Yes.
01:05:50.000 Really came after my wife and children in comments.
01:05:52.000 Really?
01:05:53.000 Well, you said that they basically beat you up.
01:05:53.000 Yes.
01:05:57.000 They did not.
01:05:58.000 I take that back.
01:05:59.000 I fully take that back.
01:06:00.000 I was making a joke.
01:06:01.000 MAGA, they for some reason in my comments call me a F word cuck.
01:06:08.000 Okay?
01:06:09.000 Cuck.
01:06:10.000 An F word cuck.
01:06:11.000 Okay?
01:06:12.000 And you're not going to say the F word here.
01:06:14.000 I know you said the P word.
01:06:15.000 But an F word cuck.
01:06:16.000 And I don't mean a fucking cuck.
01:06:18.000 I mean the other F word.
01:06:19.000 Oh.
01:06:20.000 Yeah.
01:06:21.000 Rhymes with.
01:06:21.000 Oh.
01:06:22.000 Don't even say it.
01:06:23.000 Okay.
01:06:24.000 So that's what they call me.
01:06:25.000 So let me just tell all the MAGA people who've been in my comments and my wife's comments.
01:06:30.000 By the way, my wife never goes on social media.
01:06:32.000 She now gets like all these notifications from people saying, your husband is an F word cuck.
01:06:36.000 You've got the hottest wife.
01:06:37.000 How can I?
01:06:38.000 They also like.
01:06:39.000 Call you an F.
01:06:41.000 They love mentioning that I probably like to watch my wife's.
01:06:48.000 Having relations with her.
01:06:50.000 By the way, Jamie, you've known me longer than anyone in Hollywood.
01:06:53.000 Did well.
01:06:54.000 Have you ever known me as someone who likes to watch my wife having sex with another man?
01:07:01.000 No.
01:07:02.000 Do you think I would ever call you and say, Jamie, would you come over and have sex with Rebecca Romaine so I can sit in this chair in the corner and watch you guys have sex?
01:07:12.000 Do you think that would ever come out of my mouth?
01:07:14.000 No.
01:07:14.000 It just did.
01:07:16.000 And now I guarantee you people are going to clip that.
01:07:19.000 And it's just going to be him saying, Jamie, would you come over to my house to bang Rebecca so I can sit in this chair and watch?
01:07:26.000 You've heard me on this show say how attractive I'd find Skeet Ulrich.
01:07:29.000 Do you think I would ever call Skeet and say, Skeet, do me a solid and come over and have sex with my wife so I can watch you guys?
01:07:29.000 Yes, you have.
01:07:37.000 Debatable.
01:07:39.000 Would you say I'm an F word cuck?
01:07:41.000 No.
01:07:42.000 So stop writing that in my comments and my wife's comments.
01:07:45.000 And by the way, my daughters are findable on social media.
01:07:47.000 There's no way he doesn't know what he's doing.
01:07:51.000 I'm trying to think.
01:07:52.000 I think his publicist said, This is going to get you famous.
01:07:55.000 Yeah.
01:07:56.000 It's going to boost your Q rating.
01:07:57.000 Everyone's going to be talking about it.
01:07:59.000 There's like, in your circles in progressive Hollywood, nobody likes MAGA.
01:08:04.000 Go for it.
01:08:05.000 A little interesting.
01:08:06.000 No, I just, there's going to be clips of him going around begging men to bang his wife.
01:08:06.000 Oh, go ahead.
01:08:10.000 A little interesting Easter egg in there if the story is real, but it does align with reality anyway.
01:08:14.000 Notice how, like, the fight kind of started just because he maybe insinuated one good thing about Trump.
01:08:17.000 That's like what I noticed about people.
01:08:19.000 You know, you better not say anything good about Trump ever.
01:08:22.000 And it's like, dude, Like, I can concede when Democrats do good things.
01:08:25.000 Like, I can say, like, oh, well, I agree with this, even though overall I don't agree with that.
01:08:29.000 Like, I can give a Democrat a compliment.
01:08:34.000 But it's like for them on that side, it's like if you even say anything about Donald Trump, that's positive.
01:08:38.000 They're like, no, we're going to shun you.
01:08:39.000 Oh, it's like Trump derangement syndrome on a whole other level.
01:08:43.000 You know, I think he's lying too.
01:08:45.000 Probably to some effect.
01:08:46.000 But, well, because like, if you go to his Instagram, he's got 640K followers.
01:08:49.000 But, like, I pull up one of his latest posts, it's got like 100 comments.
01:08:53.000 And it's just his fans.
01:08:55.000 They're like, we love you, Jerry.
01:08:56.000 You're great.
01:08:56.000 And I'm like scrolling through it.
01:08:58.000 I don't see anybody calling him a cuckrake like that.
01:09:00.000 Yeah, he's been editing his thing.
01:09:02.000 With Jerry.
01:09:03.000 No, I think what happened was after the Bill Maher thing exploded and it went massively viral, they probably saw in social media, like, your name has popped up in like 7 million searches since that podcast.
01:09:14.000 Why?
01:09:15.000 Because your wife beats you.
01:09:16.000 And they were like, this is good for you.
01:09:17.000 It's name recognition.
01:09:19.000 So he probably, they probably set this up.
01:09:22.000 Go on a podcast, revel in it, say two big quotes.
01:09:27.000 Bro, I'm willing to bet this PR guy was like, you need to say, in some context, Jamie, will you please come to my house and bang Rebecca?
01:09:35.000 That way, people can make clips go viral.
01:09:37.000 And you can always say, Oh, that's out of context.
01:09:40.000 Yeah.
01:09:41.000 Well, it is funny, by the way.
01:09:42.000 And I think it was a bit.
01:09:43.000 I think it was very good.
01:09:44.000 He seemed like he's enjoying it.
01:09:45.000 It does seem like he's enjoying it.
01:09:46.000 It does seem like he's enjoying it.
01:09:47.000 Right.
01:09:47.000 He says it twice.
01:09:48.000 And he knows what he's doing.
01:09:49.000 It's part of why he's a good actor is because his brain thinks like that or it's intentional and he's doing it for clips.
01:09:53.000 What's a repair person?
01:09:55.000 Like a repair person?
01:09:56.000 Yeah, no, no, no.
01:09:57.000 It's another.
01:09:57.000 No, Listen to this.
01:10:00.000 Like a handyman?
01:10:01.000 You're not puss.
01:10:02.000 He kept calling me a woke P word.
01:10:04.000 Are you woke?
01:10:05.000 If by woke you mean I'm like a progressive Californian, yeah, yeah, I guess I'm woke.
01:10:10.000 I guess I'm woke.
01:10:12.000 If I'm woke, if I call someone a repair person, does that mean I'm not really doing that?
01:10:17.000 What are you really doing that?
01:10:18.000 Am I really doing what?
01:10:20.000 Saying the word repair person.
01:10:22.000 I'm on the side.
01:10:22.000 I said it.
01:10:23.000 Are you doing that to look okay with Calabasas, who, by the way, I think there's probably not less woke people out there.
01:10:29.000 Are you doing that to look good to casting directors?
01:10:31.000 Or do you actually believe that?
01:10:33.000 What does that mean?
01:10:33.000 Yeah, he called Jerry.
01:10:36.000 Is that like Gen Z slang that I don't know?
01:10:38.000 Repair person is like instead of a repairman, they're saying repair person.
01:10:42.000 Oh!
01:10:42.000 Oh my god, dude.
01:10:43.000 Wow.
01:10:43.000 An impregnated person.
01:10:45.000 I was like, is this a word for someone who was utterly able and is now regularly abled?
01:10:49.000 You can see that Jerry's like, oh, actually, you called me on it.
01:10:52.000 I'm not, I don't really think like that.
01:10:53.000 But yes, I'm doing it for kids.
01:10:54.000 Incredible.
01:10:55.000 Like, dude, we didn't even catch it because we're like, what?
01:10:57.000 And it's just, but it's like, yeah, in LA, it's like they're so sensitive to like that.
01:11:02.000 A repair person.
01:11:04.000 Yeah.
01:11:04.000 Oh, you mean repair person?
01:11:05.000 Because I guess saying a repairman would be sexist, right?
01:11:08.000 To a sumptory.
01:11:09.000 I think we should make it.
01:11:09.000 Dude, fire.
01:11:10.000 I mean, don't repair anything.
01:11:11.000 Like, you know, you know, I think.
01:11:12.000 You're a repair woman?
01:11:13.000 No, I think we should just make it as vulgar as possible, like a repair dick and a repair puss.
01:11:13.000 What?
01:11:21.000 Just go straight for it.
01:11:22.000 I can't because we're uncomfortable.
01:11:23.000 Because I was a person.
01:11:25.000 There was another word I was going to use, but, you know, that's inappropriate.
01:11:28.000 Same for the after show.
01:11:29.000 My point is just like, guys, I don't care if you're offended.
01:11:32.000 Shut up.
01:11:34.000 Me neither.
01:11:35.000 This comes back to the whole free speech thing.
01:11:37.000 Really, free speech is about what's your intention.
01:11:39.000 Are you intending to offend them or not?
01:11:41.000 That's what matters.
01:11:42.000 But if someone else gets to determine what they think your intention was, if they get to choose, well, I was offended, therefore what you said is a problem, that's kind of antithetical to the United States Constitution.
01:11:51.000 I can't control if you're offended by words.
01:11:54.000 So I don't like the fact that we didn't even catch on in the beginning, like repairman versus repairperson.
01:11:58.000 It just goes to show how crazy we are in society where it's like they're paying so much attention to like little phrases like that.
01:12:03.000 I didn't understand what that word phrase meant.
01:12:05.000 I was like, what is.
01:12:06.000 Yeah, no, I was with you.
01:12:07.000 I thought it was like some weird insider term, but it's like, no, it's like literally you got to say repairperson, not repairman.
01:12:12.000 Yeah.
01:12:13.000 But women, let's be honest.
01:12:14.000 No, women don't repair anything.
01:12:15.000 When's the last time you seen a female plumber?
01:12:16.000 I'll wait.
01:12:17.000 Like, come on.
01:12:18.000 I'll wait.
01:12:19.000 Women don't fix anything, dude.
01:12:20.000 I've never seen a female plumber.
01:12:22.000 I've seen female cops let criminals go.
01:12:25.000 Yeah.
01:12:25.000 Funny story for you.
01:12:26.000 Speaking of female plumber, we had a girl come on our show and she went to plumbing school.
01:12:31.000 And there's a test.
01:12:32.000 There's a test where you have to have a certain level of strength to be able to pull a wrench or something like that.
01:12:36.000 And she failed.
01:12:37.000 And they still passed her because she was a woman.
01:12:39.000 Well, I think it's an important thing to understand that the highest grip strength among women is below average for men.
01:12:49.000 This is scientific.
01:12:50.000 I'm not trying to disparage women.
01:12:52.000 There is a graph of age and grip strength by age.
01:12:55.000 The strongest women are below the average male grip strength for every age demographic.
01:13:03.000 Oh, yeah.
01:13:03.000 I mean, I tell women all the time.
01:13:04.000 This is why guys open pickle jars.
01:13:06.000 I tell women all the time that come on the show, I was like, look, dude, you do realize a teenage boy can beat you up, right?
01:13:11.000 You do realize that.
01:13:12.000 Because some girls are ghetto and they think that they can fight a teenager.
01:13:15.000 You see the video where it's like three marine women versus three scrawny, weak men?
01:13:19.000 No, I didn't see that.
01:13:21.000 I did a reaction to it and got a bunch of views.
01:13:21.000 No.
01:13:24.000 You want to play it now?
01:13:24.000 Is it quick?
01:13:25.000 Let me see if I can find it.
01:13:25.000 Or.
01:13:26.000 Find it?
01:13:27.000 I wonder if that's why throwing, why guys are, they say, oh, you throw like a girl because it's the grip of the ball.
01:13:32.000 Like you're gripping it so hard.
01:13:34.000 It's upper body strength.
01:13:35.000 It's lower body strength.
01:13:36.000 He made a bunch of these.
01:13:37.000 He just keeps doing it because he's getting a million views from doing it.
01:13:41.000 Probably.
01:13:42.000 It's, no, no, no.
01:13:42.000 Oh, Jerry?
01:13:44.000 It's Austin Alexander.
01:13:46.000 Military women versus skinny Joes.
01:13:49.000 Who's stronger?
01:13:51.000 Who do you think is going to win?
01:13:51.000 Biological.
01:13:54.000 The military women?
01:13:55.000 The military women or the regular guys?
01:13:55.000 I didn't see this.
01:13:59.000 After the intro, I think it's going to be the guys.
01:13:59.000 Any predictions?
01:14:01.000 Yeah.
01:14:02.000 But I think the women might win some games.
01:14:04.000 Squeeze, It's literally just guys.
01:14:08.000 Squeeze, 120 pounds.
01:14:13.000 Good squeeze, Charlie.
01:14:14.000 So far, the guys' total is 394.4 pounds.
01:14:17.000 Y'all's total is 227.4 pounds.
01:14:19.000 These are women that work out.
01:14:21.000 These are military women.
01:14:22.000 These are military women.
01:14:23.000 You can see, like, you can tell that they're developed too.
01:14:24.000 Like, yeah, these things work out.
01:14:25.000 Like, look at their shoulders.
01:14:27.000 She ain't going to do it.
01:14:29.000 Come on, Seth.
01:14:30.000 Squeeze as hard as you can.
01:14:31.000 Squeeze, Let's go, let's go, let's go.
01:14:38.000 143 pounds.
01:14:38.000 Damn.
01:14:39.000 Skinny Joe's, take it for the championship.
01:14:42.000 The Skinny Joe's were just like guys who don't even work out.
01:14:46.000 Now, here's the thing.
01:14:46.000 Yeah.
01:14:48.000 Why are women offended by the idea that men are stronger?
01:14:51.000 Like, what happened in society where there are women who are offended at the idea that men are stronger?
01:14:57.000 For 50,000 years, Unless you're Christian, 5,000.
01:15:02.000 Women are just like, men are stronger than us.
01:15:04.000 And guys were like, we're stronger than women.
01:15:05.000 And now all of a sudden in modern society, women are like, I'm as strong as a man if I just exercise.
01:15:09.000 Maybe it's just feminism lying to them for 30 years.
01:15:13.000 That's a big part of it.
01:15:13.000 I would say it's because we've civilized the world so much where it's like women can literally just sit in air conditioned rooms and have a job and they don't really understand how the world works.
01:15:23.000 So it's just naivety, bro.
01:15:24.000 It's naivety.
01:15:25.000 One of the worst things ever, they do this periodically, these news publications, because they're run by women.
01:15:32.000 They were like, New data finds that, what was it?
01:15:35.000 What was it?
01:15:36.000 The story?
01:15:37.000 I should do a bigger segment on this.
01:15:38.000 It said that the temperature in offices is a relic of the 1970s before women came into the workplace, and everyone just tolerates it because that's the way it's always been.
01:15:50.000 And I'm like, that was written by a woman because that's not correct.
01:15:55.000 Men like men, there was an image included where it showed the natural body heat, and the guy is 10 degrees hotter than the woman, like literally muscles.
01:16:04.000 Produce more heat.
01:16:05.000 And so men die faster in the wilderness than women do.
01:16:08.000 And it's also less body fit.
01:16:11.000 The reason why it's colder in offices is because men feel hot and they can't take off their clothes.
01:16:17.000 And then you get these feminists who are like, we should turn the heat up.
01:16:20.000 It's not fair that it's cold.
01:16:21.000 Men are doing this and it's sexist.
01:16:23.000 And it's like, okay, let's do a compromise.
01:16:25.000 Guys can get naked because they don't want to walk around in 72 degrees, or you could put a sweater on.
01:16:31.000 What do you want to do?
01:16:33.000 Shirtless?
01:16:34.000 Guys walking around in boxers with fans on.
01:16:37.000 Control the temperature, control the world.
01:16:39.000 I say women can put a sweater on.
01:16:41.000 I can't take my clothes off.
01:16:42.000 Just put your sweater on and shut up.
01:16:43.000 Working creates a lot of heat.
01:16:45.000 If it's just your brain, even if I'm just playing guitar, my whole rooms, I start to sweat.
01:16:49.000 I'm like, it was like I was shivering when I walked into this room and I'm sweating now.
01:16:52.000 And that's after like 20 minutes or 30 minutes sometimes.
01:16:55.000 If it's an intense.
01:16:55.000 Because if you're clenching, if all your muscles are clenching while you're making the noise, then the noise.
01:17:00.000 This is what I'm talking about, Ron.
01:17:01.000 The thermostat in your office may be sexist.
01:17:04.000 Scientists urge updating office temps for women and seniors.
01:17:08.000 Space heaters.
01:17:08.000 No.
01:17:09.000 Wear a sweater.
01:17:10.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:17:11.000 Always wear a sweater.
01:17:12.000 Look, I'm wearing a freaking jacket right now because Tim likes it cold in here.
01:17:14.000 No one wants to see your new jacket.
01:17:16.000 It's not that I like it cold in here.
01:17:17.000 We have to run it cold, actually.
01:17:18.000 It's that the computers, the lights, the cameras, the cameras overheat.
01:17:22.000 And you're wearing a beanie.
01:17:23.000 That's not the issue.
01:17:26.000 It's 64 degrees out there.
01:17:27.000 The air is on.
01:17:27.000 I know.
01:17:28.000 And the air conditioning is on because in this room, the cameras overheat.
01:17:31.000 That is true.
01:17:32.000 We experienced it.
01:17:33.000 Yeah.
01:17:33.000 Yeah.
01:17:34.000 And like it happened on IRL a few months ago, the camera just shut off because it got too hot.
01:17:39.000 Sony's are notorious.
01:17:39.000 Yeah.
01:17:40.000 I use the same cameras.
01:17:41.000 They're notorious for it.
01:17:42.000 So I once had to take, I have this little fan down here, and we had to put it up on the power rack and place it over the camera to stop from overheating.
01:17:49.000 Yeah.
01:17:50.000 I got the same ones.
01:17:50.000 Yeah.
01:17:52.000 Sony's are notorious.
01:17:53.000 Indeed, but we also have the computers.
01:17:55.000 They generate a lot of heat.
01:17:56.000 So even if it's 30 degrees outside, like it's a dead winter, this room starts getting really hot from the lights in the computers.
01:18:02.000 So in the winter, the AC is running.
01:18:05.000 Yeah, every day, literally.
01:18:06.000 Although it might be easier just to get a vent to the outside in the winter.
01:18:11.000 But you know, that's it.
01:18:14.000 Let's talk about Chud the Builder because Myron's here.
01:18:17.000 Poor Chud.
01:18:18.000 We got this from WKRN.
01:18:20.000 Bond remains at $1 million for Chud the Builder shooting case in Montgomery County.
01:18:26.000 Dalton Earthly, the online streamer of Chud the Builder.
01:18:28.000 Appeared in Clarksville courtroom at a bond hearing Wednesday afternoon.
01:18:32.000 He was scheduled for a 9 15 appearance in Davidson County General Sessions Court before Judge Melissa Blackburn, but he did not appear.
01:18:39.000 A transport for Earthly was reportedly arranged from Clarksville, blah, blah, blah.
01:18:45.000 He's charged with three misdemeanors for theft, resisting arrest.
01:18:49.000 Was that what that was for?
01:18:51.000 They're holding him over that, not the attempted murder?
01:18:54.000 I think that was what.
01:18:55.000 It was another case.
01:18:57.000 And I'm saying, is that what they're keeping him for?
01:18:59.000 I maintain my position.
01:19:01.000 Chud the Builder is going to get locked up forever.
01:19:03.000 You think so?
01:19:04.000 This is a big test right now in the culture war, the strength of woke currently, right?
01:19:09.000 Derek Chauvin was unjustly put in prison.
01:19:12.000 Agreed.
01:19:12.000 They tried to murder him.
01:19:13.000 Needs a pardon.
01:19:14.000 And no, he does not.
01:19:16.000 You don't think so?
01:19:17.000 The reason why he's been federally charged to protect him.
01:19:21.000 If he is put in a Minnesota state jail, they'll murder him.
01:19:24.000 I mean, I meant complete pardon.
01:19:24.000 Oh, you mean in that?
01:19:26.000 I meant like release.
01:19:27.000 Yeah.
01:19:27.000 Freed your son.
01:19:28.000 You're going into the technicality of like, yeah, if he goes in state prison, it'll be a problem.
01:19:31.000 People have been asking Trump to pardon Derek Chauvin and prominent.
01:19:31.000 I see.
01:19:31.000 Right.
01:19:35.000 You need the governor and the president to do it.
01:19:37.000 Yeah, you need the president and the governor.
01:19:39.000 Federal charges are to keep him from being murdered in state prison.
01:19:42.000 But yes, so in the case of Chauvin, he showed up.
01:19:42.000 Yeah, I see your point.
01:19:47.000 And the federal case only really worked because the state case worked.
01:19:50.000 Because they got him on color of rights law.
01:19:52.000 I think the federal case only exists to keep him from being murdered.
01:19:57.000 You can make that argument, but I'm saying the federal case got more teeth because the state case won.
01:20:01.000 You get what I'm saying?
01:20:02.000 Because it was deprivation of color of rights.
01:20:04.000 So that's what they.
01:20:05.000 I think the federal charges wouldn't exist unless there was an attempt to keep him from being murdered.
01:20:05.000 Perhaps.
01:20:10.000 Like, the government can just convict you and make shit up.
01:20:12.000 Yeah, you can make that argument.
01:20:13.000 So, Chauvin shows up after the fact.
01:20:17.000 Floyd was already resisting arrest, was already chewing a speedball, had already committed a crime.
01:20:21.000 Chauvin shows up.
01:20:23.000 Indeed.
01:20:24.000 Chauvin shows up.
01:20:24.000 He's already on the ground.
01:20:26.000 So, he has no idea what's going on.
01:20:27.000 And then he decides, I'm going to use a restraint that I was trained to use, that the prosecution acknowledged he was trained to use.
01:20:35.000 And by all means, you could be upset at the training and how it was done.
01:20:38.000 But the fact they put the Asian cop in prison for the rest of his life.
01:20:42.000 For simply standing there holding his hands up for the crowd shows it's all fake.
01:20:45.000 Now, here's the point.
01:20:46.000 You got hit fairly, too.
01:20:48.000 Yeah, all of them, yeah.
01:20:48.000 All of them did.
01:20:49.000 Now we're in the case of Chubb the Builder.
01:20:51.000 And I think it's easy to say Chud has a history of antagonizing people, walking up to black dudes, acting up, but they don't result in shootings or like hardcore beatdowns.
01:21:05.000 The issue is in the initial case with Chud the Builder, and this whole case is a big question about the current strength of woke and where we are as a country.
01:21:16.000 The argument made in the initial story was that he was leaving court armed.
01:21:22.000 Some guy had words, he had words with the guy.
01:21:24.000 A fight breaks out, Chud shoots him.
01:21:27.000 My initial reaction is attempted murder is ridiculous.
01:21:30.000 Like, if a fight breaks out, the idea that Chud intentionally approached this for the purpose of killing a guy is ridiculous.
01:21:37.000 Maybe you get him on some like reckless discharge or negligence, something like this, or, you know, assault with a deadly weapon, maybe, but murder is, attempted murder is insane.
01:21:46.000 The implication there is that Chud walked into this guy believing, I am going to kill this man.
01:21:51.000 Now, here's the important thing new information has since come out that indicates Chud was actually attempting to disengage from the guy.
01:21:59.000 Before the guy jumped up and hit him, which creates a, again, we don't have, not all the evidence has been released, but this is a fact.
01:22:08.000 Did you want to quickly go through the fact pattern?
01:22:09.000 Yeah, so here's the fact pattern.
01:22:09.000 Yeah, go for it.
01:22:10.000 Basically, he was there for a civil case there, and the other guy, Josh Fox, was there.
01:22:15.000 No, it was a criminal case, wasn't it?
01:22:16.000 Over civil.
01:22:17.000 For Chud, he was there for a civil reason.
01:22:17.000 Civil.
01:22:19.000 I think it was like some debt or something like that.
01:22:22.000 Yeah, that was criminal.
01:22:23.000 Chud didn't pay a bill, and they charged him with theft.
01:22:26.000 It was a criminal case.
01:22:27.000 I think it was a civil case, but that's neither here nor there.
01:22:30.000 He was theft, a misdemeanor charge of.
01:22:32.000 Theft under $1,000 to sell.
01:22:33.000 He wasn't there for that case.
01:22:34.000 He was there for another case that was civil before that with own money.
01:22:37.000 But he did have a criminal case at the same time a couple days prior.
01:22:39.000 Yes, you are correct about that.
01:22:40.000 But why he was there on that particular day was for a civil case, from what I understand.
01:22:44.000 But either way, neither here nor there.
01:22:46.000 He's there.
01:22:47.000 He's in a suit, et cetera.
01:22:48.000 He's streaming.
01:22:49.000 He walks by.
01:22:50.000 He sees that this guy named Josh Fox, or AKA Josh will love on Facebook, points and they laugh.
01:22:55.000 He walks over and says, Hey, how are you guys doing?
01:22:57.000 You like my suit?
01:22:58.000 They're like, Hey, get the F out of here, whatever it may be.
01:23:00.000 He's like, Okay.
01:23:01.000 It's important to know that he was streaming at The whole time on a website called Pump or PumpFun, whatever, maybe some streaming service that does crypto.
01:23:07.000 Pump.fun, I think.
01:23:08.000 Yeah, that's what it was.
01:23:10.000 And I say that because it's going to come relevant later.
01:23:13.000 And then the guy says, Get out of here.
01:23:14.000 He walks away.
01:23:16.000 As he walks away, the guy engages with him and something to the extent of, I have PTSD.
01:23:21.000 If you say the N word to me or you say chimping out, we're going to have problems, blah, blah.
01:23:24.000 He gets in Chud's face, says it, and then Chud is like, Or what?
01:23:28.000 You're going to chimp out.
01:23:28.000 And then the guy strikes him, right?
01:23:30.000 So he closed distance to him.
01:23:31.000 Now, in the complaint, the criminal complaint that an investigator wrote, apparently he took a bladed stance like this.
01:23:37.000 As the guy was coming towards him to, you know, to regress.
01:23:41.000 Yeah.
01:23:41.000 And they're trying to say, like, well, he didn't pull out the weapon, but he, like, was, I guess, reaching in his jacket or whatever.
01:23:47.000 Which, you know, Tennessee, for those just to say, it is a stand your ground state.
01:23:49.000 So you have no duty to retreat, which is important to know.
01:23:51.000 So he comes up, punches him, the camera falls, and you don't see anything from there.
01:23:56.000 You just hear gunshots after.
01:23:57.000 Now, the investigator, when they had this bond hearing about two weeks ago or a week and a half ago, and they showed the footage as well in the courtroom.
01:24:05.000 And this is how I know the fact pattern here I'm saying is correct, is because multiple people that the courtroom told me that I was correct.
01:24:10.000 Um, the investigator admitted that the shots were fired as they were going down.
01:24:13.000 Now, anyone that understands like firearms and self defense in general, getting in a street fight, going to the ground is the worst thing you could do, especially if you're armed.
01:24:20.000 Um, so there was also some talk about him potentially being in a headlock, which kind of makes sense because, um, I was wondering how he shot himself.
01:24:27.000 Because if you guys look, he has a mark on his left side, exactly.
01:24:30.000 He has a mark on his left hand side, which is indicative of like you're in headlock and you're right handed, gone over his arm, exactly.
01:24:36.000 So that makes sense.
01:24:38.000 And that's his defense attorney is the one that said that he was in a headlock, and then the investigator is the one that said as they're going to the ground.
01:24:43.000 That's when the shots were fired.
01:24:44.000 So, with that fact pattern, I'm like, okay, well, the guy closed the distance on him.
01:24:48.000 It's a stand your ground state.
01:24:49.000 He made some comments.
01:24:50.000 I have PTSD.
01:24:51.000 You say that stuff around me.
01:24:52.000 You can infer PTSD, veteran.
01:24:54.000 Well, you're in the military.
01:24:55.000 You're trained to kill people.
01:24:56.000 All of these different factors come into play when it comes to self defense.
01:24:58.000 And I think the most important thing here, because a lot of people, it's a very emotionally charged case.
01:25:02.000 And I've gone to so many debates about this.
01:25:04.000 It's not about do you like Chud or 2020 hindsight.
01:25:07.000 It's about did Chud act reasonably given the facts and circumstances at the moment he pulled the trigger?
01:25:12.000 I would argue as a good case.
01:25:14.000 I disagree.
01:25:14.000 Okay.
01:25:15.000 This case is about can a white man who shot a black man avoid jail time?
01:25:15.000 Why so?
01:25:20.000 Oh, okay.
01:25:20.000 I'm talking about from a legal perspective.
01:25:21.000 If we want to talk about it culturally, how it's going to actually play out, that's what the left likes to do.
01:25:25.000 The left just says, well, he's white, go to jail.
01:25:28.000 Like Derek Shaw, it's like, he's a white guy.
01:25:30.000 With Trayvon Martin.
01:25:31.000 Let me say this.
01:25:32.000 Like Zimmerman's a white guy.
01:25:33.000 It's like, well, he's not.
01:25:34.000 He's a suspect.
01:25:35.000 No, no, no.
01:25:36.000 Zimmerman got off, though.
01:25:37.000 And Zimmerman got off even though Trayvon Martin didn't have a weapon.
01:25:40.000 So if you can articulate that, you know, you're in fear of your life.
01:25:43.000 I think there was a photo of Zimmerman with blood all over his face.
01:25:46.000 Well, that plays into it.
01:25:47.000 But he woke.
01:25:48.000 Didn't happen until 10 years after Trayvon Martin.
01:25:50.000 Trayvon Martin was the beginning of Black Lives Matter.
01:25:52.000 Yes, I agree.
01:25:53.000 So, if this guy.
01:25:53.000 No, but it factually is.
01:25:54.000 That's.
01:25:55.000 No, I.
01:25:55.000 The protest movement, Black Lives Matter, started after the killing of Trevor Marks.
01:25:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:25:59.000 And that's when we started to see, and this is what I was going to say, this is when we started to see politically charged prosecutions where, like, the state and the federal system is completely different.
01:26:06.000 As a guy that came from the federal system, I could tell you guys, and AUSA is not bringing charges unless they know that they can, like, you know, win in court.
01:26:12.000 Like, by the time you're a testifying grand jury to get a grand jury indictment, you're prepared for trial.
01:26:16.000 The feds are very buttoned up when it comes to their criminal cases.
01:26:19.000 But when it comes to the state, they're not as, like, you know, tight and refined.
01:26:23.000 Now, when it comes to politically charged cases like this, Where you got like, you know, a white and a black person, and it's, you know, very divisive.
01:26:30.000 The state typically airs on the side, let's charge it, let's bring it to a grand jury, let them decide.
01:26:36.000 If they do get a true bill, cool, we'll take it to trial.
01:26:38.000 If we lose, at least we can say we tried.
01:26:40.000 Because after the George Floyd situation, they don't want to see their cities lit up on fire, you know, or a race war because of it.
01:26:46.000 So they look at it like, charge, let the grand jury and the people decide.
01:26:50.000 So in this situation, if this dude came up, like the fact patterns you were eliciting there, comes up to Chud, who, by the way, Chud, Get your real name out there and shave your mustache because you look like one of those boxers from 1920 with the fighting stars.
01:27:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:27:03.000 So this guy comes up to him and is like, Look, I got PSTSD.
01:27:06.000 You say chimping out to me one more time and I'm going to go nuts on you.
01:27:10.000 And then Chud says it again.
01:27:11.000 He says, Or, yeah.
01:27:12.000 Then he said, Or what?
01:27:13.000 You're going to chimp out and then he punches.
01:27:14.000 So he says, Or what?
01:27:15.000 You're going to do the thing that you said not to do and he does it.
01:27:18.000 Does that not like not stand your ground?
01:27:20.000 Isn't that more like he's aggressing back at the guy by saying the word the guy just told him not to say?
01:27:24.000 Or do you say, If you say chimping out to me, then I'll.
01:27:28.000 The guy, from what Myron just said, the guy just said, I'm going to attack or do whatever.
01:27:32.000 And then Chad the Builder says it again.
01:27:33.000 Yeah, he said, or what, you're going to X, Y, Z.
01:27:36.000 So, like, and, you know, some people have made some arguments like, oh, well, those are fighting words.
01:27:40.000 No, that's, there's no, this is not fighting words.
01:27:43.000 Even the N word in itself, like, it needs to be put in a way where it's like, you know, an imminent force or, you have to use it with the intent.
01:27:51.000 Exactly.
01:27:52.000 Right.
01:27:52.000 So, like, imminent forces, where force is imminent, excuse me.
01:27:55.000 There is a video where there's this guy, Like tabling at a university or whatever, and some dude walks up and says, You called someone the N word.
01:28:03.000 He's like, I did not.
01:28:04.000 And then the young conservative explains he was talking about how people use the N word and he said it, and then the guy starts swinging and punching at him.
01:28:12.000 That's not provocation.
01:28:14.000 Provocation would be if you walk up to someone and call them the N word, now you're in shaky grounds for self defense.
01:28:20.000 So, yeah, I mean, typically the person that closes the distance is the aggressor in most standard ground and/or self defense situations.
01:28:28.000 But in this thing, I think, you know, again, let me be clear about this.
01:28:32.000 Am I a fan of nuisance streamers?
01:28:33.000 Whatever.
01:28:34.000 Yeah, they could be entertaining and everything else like that.
01:28:35.000 But, like, when it comes to this case, I'm looking strictly at the facts.
01:28:38.000 Like, I think he has a strong self defense case.
01:28:40.000 I see your perspective where it's like, You're getting locked up, bro.
01:28:42.000 You're saying, Look, regardless of the facts of the case, you're looking at it like, Hey, it's politically motivated.
01:28:47.000 He's going to get convicted or whatever.
01:28:49.000 This is where the attorney's got to be good.
01:28:50.000 His defense attorney, I had a whole discussion with this about Andrew Branca.
01:28:53.000 The defense attorney, his defense attorney's got to work to ensure that very little from like Chud's streaming stuff comes in and that it's objective based on the facts that occurred on that day.
01:29:05.000 Now, with that said, is some of it going to come in?
01:29:07.000 Yes.
01:29:08.000 But if it does come in, Joshua Love's stuff is also going to come in because in January he posted on Facebook if I find this Chud guy, I'm going to fight him and push my Twitch career.
01:29:17.000 Yeah.
01:29:18.000 This is the actual guy.
01:29:19.000 Yes.
01:29:19.000 Yes.
01:29:20.000 Yeah.
01:29:21.000 So, from his perspective, it was definitely premeditated.
01:29:23.000 Yeah.
01:29:24.000 From Trud's perspective, we don't know.
01:29:25.000 He didn't know who he is.
01:29:26.000 Yeah.
01:29:27.000 We don't know if he didn't know.
01:29:28.000 Well, the presumption is innocence.
01:29:29.000 Like, we can't assume he did.
01:29:31.000 If there's no evidence, we presume he did not.
01:29:34.000 But if.
01:29:34.000 Yes.
01:29:35.000 We do not introduce the idea that Chud was aware of who this person was unless you could present any kind of evidence.
01:29:39.000 Well, if he did know, it would help his case potentially because he can make the argument, oh, I saw this guy.
01:29:39.000 Yeah.
01:29:44.000 He threatened to hurt me, blah, blah, blah.
01:29:45.000 That's why he reacted the way that I did.
01:29:46.000 Yeah, but I don't think he needs that.
01:29:47.000 I mean, we don't know.
01:29:48.000 We don't know.
01:29:49.000 If this dude.
01:29:50.000 Are you sure that's the right guy?
01:29:51.000 100%.
01:29:52.000 Yeah.
01:29:53.000 It was his Facebook profile.
01:29:54.000 He goes by Joshua Love on Facebook, but his real name is Joshua Fox.
01:29:57.000 And this is the same guy that tried to, you know, do arson and, you know, burn a house with his wife and his child.
01:30:03.000 For all I know, he was standing outside the courtroom on purpose waiting for Chud.
01:30:06.000 He was there for, I think, some child support stuff.
01:30:10.000 He was there for child support, and Chud was there for a civil matter.
01:30:13.000 So, confluence of events, but this guy had already publicly stated that he was going to hurt Chud the Builder.
01:30:18.000 Yes.
01:30:18.000 And then he hurt Chud the Builder.
01:30:19.000 In January, yeah.
01:30:20.000 Because he made a comment that he never comes on our side of town, but if I do see him, I'm basically going to antagonize a fight and get my Twitch career popping off.
01:30:20.000 Wow.
01:30:27.000 Wow.
01:30:28.000 See, and these are facts that no one talks about, right?
01:30:30.000 So, like, you know, and I spoke with a couple people that actually were in the courtroom at that hearing where they played the video, and they said, yes, what you said is pretty much spot on, and that's what occurred.
01:30:38.000 But I see where you're going, Tim.
01:30:40.000 You're like, look, you get a lot of money.
01:30:41.000 You have a strong self defense case, but like, hey, is he going to get a, yeah, and that's ridiculous, too, by the way.
01:30:46.000 Yeah, it's insane.
01:30:47.000 There was someone that got a quarter million dollar bond that literally killed someone, murdered one.
01:30:51.000 But even if Insane, dude, insane.
01:30:54.000 Even if this is a case where Chud is guilty and is the aggressor, attempted murder is an insane charge.
01:31:02.000 Yes, but I will say this.
01:31:03.000 Assault with a deadly weapon, maybe.
01:31:05.000 This is what it's going to be.
01:31:06.000 His defense, and this is what Branca was saying as well when I was speaking with him.
01:31:09.000 Really, you know, for those that don't know Andrew Branca, fantastic self defense attorney, one of the best in the country.
01:31:15.000 The goal for the defense is going to have to work to keep as much stuff out about, you know, from Chud's, you know, streaming or whatever to make sure that there's nothing unduly suggestive or, you know, will taint the jury or whatever.
01:31:25.000 Obviously, the entire Bordera process of bringing jurors in, you're going to want people that aren't familiar with who he is.
01:31:30.000 But if they do do that, he did mention that if they do do that, That they obviously Josh Fox's background is gonna have to come in too.
01:31:36.000 And I suspect that he's gonna have to be the state star witness in this.
01:31:40.000 And he didn't get arrested either, which is interesting.
01:31:42.000 Let me tell you, Sarah Fields is covering the Carmelo Anthony trial.
01:31:45.000 Oh, yeah.
01:31:46.000 Yeah, that's another big one.
01:31:46.000 She said, Juror 142 said, I don't know that I would feel right putting a brother in jail.
01:31:52.000 Well, he should be dismissed.
01:31:53.000 Yeah.
01:31:53.000 Of course.
01:31:54.000 I believe he probably was.
01:31:55.000 The point is.
01:31:55.000 He was the BLM guy in the Chauvin trial, like for a jury.
01:31:58.000 And I was like, this is.
01:31:59.000 They were lying.
01:31:59.000 Yeah.
01:32:00.000 The point is this, Ian.
01:32:04.000 A jury system exists for a people.
01:32:06.000 And we, as the United States, we are not a people.
01:32:09.000 Black people don't like this guy said it.
01:32:12.000 And this is a common sentiment among black people in the United States.
01:32:15.000 They're like, I'll put a white guy in jail.
01:32:18.000 I want to put a black guy in jail.
01:32:19.000 They're also the.
01:32:19.000 They actually, we had a study on this.
01:32:21.000 We talked about it on this show.
01:32:22.000 White people have zero bias based on race in criminal justice.
01:32:28.000 Every other racial minority would intentionally get a racial minority of their own, of their kin, off.
01:32:35.000 They would say not guilty.
01:32:36.000 And there was a study on it?
01:32:37.000 So we talked about this.
01:32:38.000 I think it was last year.
01:32:39.000 There's a study where they tracked white jurors and found zero racial bias.
01:32:44.000 Then they tracked Hispanic, Asian, and Black and found pure racial bias.
01:32:49.000 For Black people, if you're Asian, white, Latino, or otherwise, you're guilty if you're guilty.
01:32:54.000 If you're not guilty, you're not guilty.
01:32:56.000 If you're Black, not guilty no matter what.
01:32:57.000 For Mexicans, if you're Mexican, not guilty no matter what.
01:32:59.000 If you're Asian, not guilty no matter what.
01:33:01.000 White people, if you're white, Black, or otherwise, you're guilty if you're guilty, you're not guilty if you're not guilty.
01:33:05.000 Yeah.
01:33:06.000 No, but it is insane though, because they compared all the different people that got bonded in that same jurisdiction, and Chud has by far the most expensive.
01:33:17.000 Ever, like eight times the normal.
01:33:19.000 And like, there's people that were, you know, convicted, PDFs, you know, murderers, et cetera.
01:33:24.000 They're getting 100,000, 250K bond for Chud.
01:33:27.000 And then he had his bond hearing today.
01:33:29.000 And apparently the judge ruled no bond because every person that posts bond can only post 100K.
01:33:34.000 So he needs 10 different bail bonds companies basically to put up 100,000.
01:33:39.000 Because Dual put up the 1 million.
01:33:40.000 They have it, they put up the 1 million.
01:33:42.000 But the judge said, no, the limit is 100,000.
01:33:45.000 And it's like, dude, what is this?
01:33:46.000 Like, that's crazy, dude.
01:33:47.000 Okay, I got a question.
01:33:48.000 Because I think in addition to what you're saying about tribalism, ridiculous tribalistic juries.
01:33:51.000 That the internet makes it hard to get an untainted jury because you hear about these national stories like Kyle Rittenhouse.
01:33:57.000 Pretty much everybody knew who he was.
01:33:58.000 So, in this situation, as part of the media, do we have a duty not to talk about it?
01:34:03.000 Well, I mean, media's going to report on it or whatever.
01:34:05.000 You know, I think with Chud, like, he's still fairly, like, you know, unless you're in a streaming world or you're really tapped in with the internet, you're going to know who he is.
01:34:12.000 But I think, like, normies, boomers, they're not going to know.
01:34:14.000 They're going to, they'll be able to probably get a somewhat fair jury.
01:34:17.000 But my thing is, I'm looking at it like this bond situation is nuts.
01:34:20.000 Like, it's good.
01:34:21.000 Dude, literally, like, Two weeks prior to Chud, some dude killed somebody, some black kid, and he got a quarter million bond.
01:34:27.000 You have to get 100K from each person, too?
01:34:30.000 That's the max is 100K.
01:34:30.000 Yeah.
01:34:32.000 So the guy that had 250, he still needed to get three different people to pay his bond as well?
01:34:35.000 The max is 100K.
01:34:37.000 So Duel put up a million.
01:34:38.000 I'm not talking about Chud.
01:34:39.000 I'm talking about this other guy.
01:34:40.000 No, this other guy.
01:34:41.000 Like he was going to put up 100, and they're like, no, we need 10 different people putting up 100K.
01:34:45.000 What?
01:34:45.000 Yeah.
01:34:46.000 You said this other guy had a 250K.
01:34:47.000 They're just making a fake re choice.
01:34:48.000 Lock him up, bro.
01:34:49.000 I told you.
01:34:49.000 It's ridiculous.
01:34:50.000 I said this today.
01:34:51.000 I was like, he's getting locked up.
01:34:52.000 Thank you, and have a nice day.
01:34:53.000 My question, does everybody that's posting bond need 100K from different sources, or is that just a one off with this Chud situation?
01:35:00.000 That's a good question.
01:35:01.000 I don't know.
01:35:03.000 But keep in mind, with like 250K, you've only got to come up with 10%.
01:35:08.000 Does he only need 10% with a 1 million bond?
01:35:13.000 I think each person can only put up 10%, which is why it's 100,000.
01:35:16.000 That's why.
01:35:17.000 Oh.
01:35:18.000 Because if 250K, put up 5%, 10%, 25K, right?
01:35:24.000 For Chud, it's a million.
01:35:26.000 But 100K is the max.
01:35:27.000 So that's a bond law, is that you can only, any one person can only pay for it.
01:35:31.000 I don't know if it's a law or whatever, but that's what the judge said today during the hearing, which is insane.
01:35:35.000 So that's purposely why, I guess, strategically, why they have his bond so high.
01:35:38.000 It was originally at 1.25.
01:35:40.000 Now it's at one, and it's ridiculous.
01:35:42.000 They kept it at one because that's the minimum that you can't bond.
01:35:45.000 Yeah, it says this article from WSMV, this unique rule is going to keep him locked up.
01:35:50.000 They say bonding companies are only permitted to put forth $100,000 of liability, they can't take full responsibility.
01:35:56.000 As such, 10 different companies would have to split the risk and require a $10,000 bond be paid to each of them.
01:36:04.000 During Wednesday's hearing, Earthley's attorney requested the cap allowance be raised, saying that only two bonding companies so far were willing to work on the case.
01:36:10.000 Goodman denied that request.
01:36:12.000 They're going to find every reason in the world to give him an unfair trial and lock him up.
01:36:16.000 Yep.
01:36:16.000 He's.
01:36:17.000 Yeah.
01:36:17.000 And look, you know, and I want people that are watching this that might not like Chud or be like, he's a racist, whatever, that's fine.
01:36:22.000 You don't have to like him.
01:36:23.000 I'm not arguing that.
01:36:24.000 What I'm saying is, like, if you believe in the Second Amendment, if you believe in the ability to defend yourself, like, You need to keep an eye on this, and you know, this is going to obviously matter.
01:36:32.000 I don't think it matters.
01:36:33.000 Oh, it does because it's First Amendment, too.
01:36:35.000 If his intention was not to produce fighting words when he said, What are you then you're going to chimp out again?
01:36:40.000 Like, then the guy had no right to attack him.
01:36:43.000 You guys are so 1990s, man.
01:36:46.000 I mean, I know you get it.
01:36:47.000 I know you get it, Myron.
01:36:50.000 Listen, man.
01:36:51.000 If you go to San Francisco, convicted.
01:36:53.000 You'd think you got free speech in San Francisco.
01:36:56.000 You don't.
01:36:57.000 If conservatives go to San Francisco and speak up, the cops will laugh as Antifa beats the crap out of you with crowbars.
01:37:03.000 I see.
01:37:03.000 And they'll do nothing about it.
01:37:04.000 You live in a violent militocracy, but if you're charismatic.
01:37:06.000 It's a militocracy.
01:37:07.000 Where basically the cops can shoot you at any moment for any reason off camera, and then they'll get off.
01:37:07.000 Yeah.
01:37:14.000 You guys see the Lego story out of Utah?
01:37:15.000 Yeah.
01:37:15.000 Yeah.
01:37:16.000 The cops are just making stuff up.
01:37:18.000 Yeah.
01:37:19.000 This story is crazy.
01:37:21.000 A guy pawned his $200,000 worth of Legos and then the cops came and took it.
01:37:25.000 I don't know the story exactly.
01:37:26.000 There's a lot more to that, but I'm referencing Reckless Ben.
01:37:30.000 There's body camera footage where he stops at a stop sign and the police argued he blew the stop sign because he stopped shortly after the stop sign.
01:37:37.000 So they said he was crossing the stop line.
01:37:39.000 And I'm like, but you have to to see oncoming traffic because cars are parked.
01:37:43.000 Anyway, to your point, largely, yeah, in a lot of circumstances, This is the thing about power, guys.
01:37:51.000 If you go to a small town and you F with that small town, a cop will shoot you in the face in broad daylight, and every single member of that town will say, I didn't see nothing.
01:38:04.000 That's the reality of power.
01:38:06.000 That's how it works.
01:38:07.000 Free speech, everybody's making these arguments about you have a right to free speech.
01:38:12.000 What this is about is who Chud is and whether there will be a group of people who want Chud out.
01:38:20.000 Now, you can make the arguments, every argument in the world about the First Amendment and Second Amendment.
01:38:24.000 What you're trying to do there is to assert legitimacy and institutional authority.
01:38:29.000 We must abide by this thing.
01:38:30.000 The truth is that the real goal there is to convince regular people, and I'm not saying you're wrong to do it.
01:38:36.000 I understand the point of saying he has a First Amendment right and Second Amendment right.
01:38:40.000 But the reality of the exercise of power is will there be enough powerful people in Tennessee to say stop or not?
01:38:48.000 I think they're going to lock him up.
01:38:50.000 I don't think any prominent millionaires, billionaires, influential politicians in Tennessee are going to stick their neck out for this guy.
01:38:56.000 The inverse is going to happen.
01:38:57.000 They're going to say, I don't want to get caught up in that.
01:38:59.000 Lock him up.
01:39:00.000 And then the question of free speech.
01:39:01.000 So you're saying, like, practically, you think he's going to get locked up.
01:39:03.000 Did you think he's a valid self defense, though, with that fact pattern?
01:39:07.000 Yeah.
01:39:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:39:09.000 Initially, I was saying.
01:39:09.000 Like, you're just saying, you think he's like, from the fact pattern, he's in the right.
01:39:12.000 However, you think they're going to make an example out of him.
01:39:15.000 So I'll clarify.
01:39:16.000 Initially, when the story came out and what we understood was that he walked up to a guy, they had words, and a fight broke out, I'm like, they're going to look at his history and say, Chud has a tweet where he said.
01:39:25.000 And they don't have the pump video yet.
01:39:26.000 That's the other thing I was going to tell you.
01:39:27.000 They're working on getting it.
01:39:28.000 Chud has a tweet where he said, We all know something like, we know how this ends with me doing things that ends in death and then y'all going nuts when I get off, when I get out of jail.
01:39:37.000 Statements like that will play a role in whether or not.
01:39:40.000 Well, he said he would disengage.
01:39:42.000 Once we learn from the charging documents that Chud tried to disengage, it changes everything.
01:39:47.000 The fact that he tried to disengage makes attempted murder the most psychotic charge they could.
01:39:51.000 Again, they could still get him on some.
01:39:55.000 If the argument was that Chud walked up to a guy, like they said something to him, he walked up, words were had, a fight breaks out, and he shoots him, the best charge they could get reasonably would be like assault with a deadly weapon.
01:40:05.000 Like you're not going to argue.
01:40:07.000 So, second degree murder is like passion murder.
01:40:09.000 That in that moment, in his mind, Chud said, This man must die, and decided, I'm going to kill.
01:40:13.000 That's not that he's getting beat up.
01:40:15.000 So, that's once you hear the charging documents that Chud attempted to disengage, now you've removed all intent.
01:40:23.000 Chud had no intention of causing harm to this other person.
01:40:27.000 Then he gets hit.
01:40:28.000 Now, a fight was started by the other guy after Chud tried to disengage.
01:40:31.000 Now, you've got a self defense.
01:40:32.000 Prosecutors always overcharge, though, because it gives them a little bit more wiggle room later on to, oh, we will plead to this.
01:40:37.000 Yes.
01:40:38.000 They almost always overcharge.
01:40:39.000 Right, right, right.
01:40:39.000 Exactly.
01:40:40.000 Exactly.
01:40:41.000 But if he goes for trial on this one, on the merits, I think his lawyers are going to say, Chad, you're going to prison because it's.
01:40:49.000 If he has a good lawyer, if he has a good lawyer and his lawyer ensures that, you know, they mitigate as much of this like streaming stuff coming in to not taint the jury, I think he has a very solid chance, man.
01:40:59.000 And they go on the facts and circumstances on there.
01:41:01.000 And then, you know, if they do do that, have the contingency of we're going to destroy your main witness's character because this guy, Josh Love, is a POS.
01:41:08.000 That's another option.
01:41:09.000 But we'll have to see, man.
01:41:10.000 But what's allowed?
01:41:11.000 Everyone thought Diddy was gone, and then Diddy beat the Rico.
01:41:14.000 Diddy literally beat the Rico with a fantastic legal order.
01:41:17.000 Diddy did it, man.
01:41:18.000 Yeah, but not only did Diddy do it, but then he did do it when he got off from what he did.
01:41:21.000 But Cassie just ran out.
01:41:22.000 You saw she just left the country with like 30 million?
01:41:25.000 I mean, it's at the judge's.
01:41:26.000 Cassie, the star witness, his ex girlfriend.
01:41:28.000 It's at the judge's discretion, though, right?
01:41:30.000 And the judge has already shown that by the bail stuff that he's probably.
01:41:35.000 I think, because the state system, please correct me if I'm wrong here, but the state system is kind of like the federal one, it's not been indicted yet.
01:41:41.000 So, it's like at a lower level judge.
01:41:42.000 Okay.
01:41:43.000 Once it gets indicted, then it's going to go to like a real trial judge.
01:41:46.000 Okay.
01:41:46.000 And a lot of times magistrates are like kind of cowards.
01:41:48.000 They don't really want to, like, I don't want to be the guy to do this or whatever.
01:41:51.000 They don't want the liability.
01:41:53.000 So, that might be a reason why he's behaving the way that he is.
01:41:55.000 What would be a manslaughter charge?
01:41:57.000 Like, what would be an example of manslaughter?
01:41:58.000 This could constitute his manslaughter, I would say.
01:42:00.000 A self defense fight.
01:42:01.000 This could constitute, like, this could be like a manslaughter charge could be like, okay, look, we don't got enough for the attempted murder, whatever.
01:42:01.000 Yeah.
01:42:06.000 Let's go, like, with a manslaughter or whatever.
01:42:08.000 But, you know, we'll see what happens.
01:42:10.000 Wouldn't he have had to die, though?
01:42:11.000 Like, for manslaughter, wouldn't he have had to die?
01:42:13.000 Or the BS.
01:42:14.000 Attempted manslaughter.
01:42:15.000 Attempted manslaughter.
01:42:16.000 Or, like, what's the difference?
01:42:17.000 Oh, the deadly weapon or something.
01:42:19.000 Just, I. People probably know about this, but the difference between murder two and manslaughter, do you know off the top of your head?
01:42:25.000 It depends.
01:42:26.000 Every state is different.
01:42:27.000 So, like, murder one is when you, is generally when you intend to go to kill someone.
01:42:32.000 Yeah.
01:42:33.000 Murder two.
01:42:33.000 Completely premeditated, planned out.
01:42:34.000 Murder two is you intended to kill someone, but you didn't go planning.
01:42:34.000 Yeah.
01:42:39.000 Like, you didn't go to the guy's house, right?
01:42:41.000 So, you were somewhere, something happened, and you intended to kill him, but you didn't show up at that place, intended to kill him.
01:42:47.000 And then manslaughter is.
01:42:48.000 There was an altercation, something happened, and you tried to defend yourself.
01:42:52.000 Or you drunk drove, killed somebody.
01:42:54.000 You did something that caused someone to die.
01:42:56.000 Generally, again, but like.
01:42:58.000 Yeah, every state's different.
01:43:00.000 But with this one, I mean, we'll see what happens.
01:43:03.000 I know they're going to push it to the grand jury.
01:43:07.000 They'll probably get an indictment because probable cause is such a low barrier.
01:43:10.000 People don't understand how low it is, especially at the state level.
01:43:13.000 And we'll see what happens.
01:43:15.000 But yeah, I think it's really going to be on his defense attorney to put the work in.
01:43:20.000 Because I do think that this is completely solvable, and the defense attorney is going to have to, you know.
01:43:23.000 But I don't know.
01:43:24.000 The defense attorney's made some tweet that was really weird.
01:43:26.000 Like, oh, yeah, we're not racist.
01:43:28.000 Like, I made this whole tweet about, like, because they've been getting a lot of phone calls and people complaining.
01:43:32.000 People need to understand how politics and power work.
01:43:35.000 And, you know, it's beneficial to the powers that be that we all believe in the legitimacy of a system in which there is little legitimacy.
01:43:42.000 And what I mean by that is we want to believe that if you're innocent, you will be found not guilty by the jury.
01:43:50.000 We want to believe that when the police are asking you questions and you're innocent, if you're honest, they'll say thank you for your assistance.
01:43:57.000 Except we live in a country where when the cops are asking you questions, they're really thinking, how can I arrest this guy?
01:43:57.000 Of course.
01:44:03.000 Yep.
01:44:04.000 We live in a country where, again, like I stated, if you drive through a small town of like a thousand people in the middle of, say, like Nebraska, and let's say you get out and you're acting like a dick, you're pissing everybody off, they know.
01:44:15.000 Then you get into a fight with somebody and they want to get rid of you.
01:44:19.000 They can get rid of you and nobody's going to do anything about it.
01:44:21.000 Let me tell you, I went to Utkiakvik.
01:44:22.000 You know what that is?
01:44:24.000 It's Barrow, Alaska, and they changed the name because 70 people voted and no one else did.
01:44:28.000 Town's got like 1,000 people.
01:44:30.000 We rented a car.
01:44:31.000 We were driving and Google Maps told us to go down this one road.
01:44:36.000 The only problem is it was a summer road and currently it was just a snow ditch.
01:44:41.000 So I was like, hey, look, we got a road right here.
01:44:44.000 It says we can go across.
01:44:45.000 And then we go, and we get stuck.
01:44:47.000 So they pull the car out and we get a flat.
01:44:50.000 Literally every single person in the town of Barrow, Alaska, knew that we got a flat tire.
01:44:55.000 Not only did they know that we were there, because when we landed, it's only 1,000 people.
01:45:00.000 People got off the plane and they recognized me and they're like, What are you doing here?
01:45:03.000 And I was like, We came to check it out.
01:45:05.000 It's like the northernmost city in America.
01:45:06.000 It's like a place to go.
01:45:08.000 Everybody knew we were there.
01:45:09.000 The moment we got a flat tire, we get a phone call from the rental company, small company.
01:45:14.000 It's like, So you got a flat, huh?
01:45:16.000 You want to, let's bring it back in.
01:45:18.000 We're like, Yeah, sorry about that.
01:45:19.000 We go to get food at a restaurant.
01:45:20.000 They're like, Oh, flat tire, huh?
01:45:22.000 Everybody knows.
01:45:24.000 Now imagine what happens.
01:45:24.000 We're in group chat.
01:45:26.000 On group chat or something.
01:45:26.000 Of course.
01:45:27.000 Because the local news is so small.
01:45:29.000 Now imagine you go to a small town and you do something like shoplift or you get into a car accident or you hit a kid or something.
01:45:36.000 You could go into a small town and they could simply be like, We're smuggling drugs, and you saw us.
01:45:43.000 Bang.
01:45:44.000 The cop shoots you and says, Our economy is based off the illegal drug smuggling, so we're not going to let you leave.
01:45:49.000 And then what are you going to do about it?
01:45:50.000 You're missing, and the local police say, We'll investigate.
01:45:53.000 Just another missing person.
01:45:53.000 Nothing ever happens.
01:45:55.000 That's how politics actually works.
01:45:56.000 Myron, were you a cop in the government?
01:45:59.000 Was that your role?
01:46:00.000 No, my official title was a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations or HSI.
01:46:04.000 Did you arrest people?
01:46:05.000 Was that part of your job?
01:46:06.000 All the time, yeah.
01:46:07.000 Did you ever look at people and just be like, I don't care what they did, I'm going to arrest them?
01:46:11.000 So, at the federal level, you have to present an enormous amount of evidence to even get an AUSA to take your case and get it indicted and charged.
01:46:19.000 Like, we don't have the same level of probable cause arrest leverage like the state does.
01:46:24.000 Like, for example, you get stopped on a traffic stop, I smell weed, you did this, I'm just going to make an arrest right there, take you to the jail, book you, let the DA deal with it later.
01:46:34.000 The federal system doesn't work like that, contrary to popular belief.
01:46:37.000 Feds have very little power to actually effectuate arrests without full support of the United States Attorney's Office.
01:46:42.000 Like, you're not going to make an arrest unless you talk to an AUSA.
01:46:45.000 So that makes it where this, and this is why they don't lose case a lot of times because you're typically working a case alongside the prosecutor the entire time versus at the state and local level.
01:46:55.000 They kind of do it on their own and then they bring the prosecutor in after.
01:46:58.000 And that's why there's so many mistakes in state cases almost always.
01:47:01.000 The 50% failure rate so many times.
01:47:03.000 So that's like one of the main differences.
01:47:06.000 Okay.
01:47:07.000 Is it because you have to wait for, was it ASUA is what they're called?
01:47:10.000 United States Attorney's Office.
01:47:11.000 So we call them AUSA's Assistant United States Attorney's Office.
01:47:13.000 Do you have to wait?
01:47:14.000 Attorney.
01:47:15.000 Do you need their authority to make the arrest or do you just, it's just smart to wait?
01:47:18.000 For it.
01:47:19.000 Yeah, pretty much.
01:47:19.000 Like, I'll give an example.
01:47:20.000 When I was on the border, right, we can catch someone smuggling in like 20 kilos of coke, right?
01:47:25.000 We got them there, he confessed whatever.
01:47:26.000 I still got to call the AUSA and be like, look, I'm going to file a criminal complaint.
01:47:29.000 This is what I got.
01:47:30.000 Okay, we're going to accept it, right?
01:47:32.000 And you send a complaint in.
01:47:34.000 And then you send it, they look at it, then they forward it to the judge.
01:47:37.000 Like, everything still has to go through them.
01:47:38.000 You're not going to, you know, go to a judge without going to an AUSA, like the staying local skin.
01:47:42.000 You can take him into custody and you have him in custody while you're getting that.
01:47:45.000 Yeah, like, when he's there, and I'll call the AUSA and get that concurrence that they're going to accept the complaint.
01:47:51.000 But, like, I can't let's just take them and drop them off without talking to an AUSA.
01:47:54.000 Is he in handcuffs by the time you call AUSA?
01:47:57.000 A lot of times, because, like, you'll show up and, like, he'll be there and customs has them, and then, like, you take it from there.
01:48:01.000 Heavens.
01:48:03.000 You should finish your phone.
01:48:04.000 You'll show up.
01:48:04.000 Yeah.
01:48:05.000 He'll be there, cuffed up.
01:48:06.000 And then, if you show up fast enough, you can do what's called the control delivery.
01:48:09.000 Hey, where were this drugs supposed to go?
01:48:11.000 New York City.
01:48:12.000 You want to cooperate?
01:48:12.000 All right.
01:48:13.000 Make a control call.
01:48:13.000 Yeah.
01:48:15.000 Calls a guy.
01:48:15.000 Hey, sorry, I got a flat.
01:48:16.000 We're going to go.
01:48:17.000 Cool.
01:48:17.000 We do the control delivery.
01:48:18.000 I call the AUSA.
01:48:19.000 We're going to do a CD.
01:48:20.000 We take it to where it's going to go, and then we do the surveillance.
01:48:22.000 Or if he says, I don't want to cooperate, okay, cool.
01:48:25.000 We're going to file a complaint.
01:48:26.000 Do you concur?
01:48:27.000 Have you ever mercilessly beaten a man?
01:48:29.000 Please say yes.
01:48:31.000 No, no, man.
01:48:32.000 There's mercy involved.
01:48:33.000 There's mercy involved.
01:48:35.000 There's always corruption everywhere.
01:48:36.000 Let me be clear about this.
01:48:37.000 There's always corruption everywhere.
01:48:38.000 But I would say, at the federal system, it's far more buttoned up and crossing T's and dotting I's.
01:48:45.000 And that's why they barely lose cases.
01:48:48.000 And by the time we're coming to get you at 6 o'clock in the morning, the investigation has been going on for a year or two.
01:48:53.000 We have informants.
01:48:53.000 We have you on the phone.
01:48:55.000 We have wiretaps.
01:48:57.000 We've done search warrants.
01:48:58.000 We've done grand jury subpoenas.
01:48:59.000 Like, we have an enormous amount of evidence on you by the time we show up at your house at 6 a.m.
01:49:03.000 Probable cause arrests are actually very rare at the federal level unless you have everything, like right then and there.
01:49:08.000 We're going to go to your Rumble rants and super chats.
01:49:11.000 So, smash the like button, share the show with everyone.
01:49:13.000 You know, the uncensored portion of the show coming up at 10 p.m.
01:49:15.000 You got to join Rumble Premium to watch.
01:49:18.000 And if you want to call in, you got to be a member of the Discord community.
01:49:22.000 But it's always fun, not so family friendly.
01:49:25.000 But in the meantime, let's grab those chats from you guys.
01:49:28.000 Super Poopers says, I don't want to be a part of your Discord.
01:49:31.000 I just get into arguments with the people.
01:49:33.000 They're not my people.
01:49:34.000 I do want to call in.
01:49:36.000 If you created a role in your Discord just for calling in, it would be cool, but you literally can just join to do the call ins.
01:49:41.000 You don't have to argue with people.
01:49:44.000 I don't understand.
01:49:45.000 Sign up, join the Discord, don't argue with people.
01:49:49.000 Don't go in the chat and just chill and then submit your questions for the call ins.
01:49:54.000 Timcast.com.
01:49:54.000 Easy enough.
01:49:56.000 It's like running through a gauntlet.
01:49:57.000 You have to not get baited by the thing that you're doing.
01:49:59.000 But you know what?
01:50:00.000 I think, I'm pretty sure the call, isn't the call in chat separate from the actual chat?
01:50:03.000 Yeah.
01:50:04.000 Like call in submissions is its own thing where you submit a question and then.
01:50:08.000 Yeah, they're all different.
01:50:08.000 You can just practice self restraint and not actually engage in arguments.
01:50:12.000 True.
01:50:13.000 I mean, I appreciate the rant.
01:50:14.000 50 bucks.
01:50:15.000 You know what I mean?
01:50:15.000 For sure.
01:50:16.000 It's like five months of membership right there.
01:50:18.000 It's worth it, bro.
01:50:19.000 You'll be a stronger person when you can resist it.
01:50:21.000 Josh Stedford says In keeping with Tim Cass' tradition, we're at the hospital waiting for the birth of our first son.
01:50:27.000 Welcome to the world, Tate Andres.
01:50:29.000 Congratulations.
01:50:29.000 Oh, Tate.
01:50:30.000 Put him down.
01:50:31.000 Tate Andres, dude.
01:50:34.000 NNY says, logged in 10 minutes late.
01:50:35.000 Big ups to Myra, and I expected a screed against Jews.
01:50:38.000 Instead, it was a screed against women.
01:50:40.000 Congrats for staying on message.
01:50:42.000 Oh, no, that's the same one.
01:50:45.000 Badmouth Bandit says, unfortunately, today we had to put down our family cat, Henry.
01:50:49.000 He will be missed dearly.
01:50:51.000 Rest in peace, my free friend.
01:50:52.000 Indolences, Henry.
01:50:53.000 Man.
01:50:55.000 The Fallen says, Ian, Hassan wasn't banned for being communist.
01:50:59.000 He was banned because he repeatedly calls for terrorism against governments and the killing of influential people.
01:51:03.000 From in the UK?
01:51:05.000 Everywhere.
01:51:06.000 Everyone.
01:51:07.000 Well, I didn't insinuate.
01:51:07.000 Yeah.
01:51:09.000 I hope I didn't insinuate that it was just because of his LARPing communism that he got banned.
01:51:13.000 But I do think that's why he's getting invested.
01:51:14.000 You know what?
01:51:15.000 I think there's a lot of really dumb people.
01:51:18.000 And I feel like the political divide in this country is an IQ test.
01:51:24.000 So for a lot of people who are like average or above average intelligence, they can see these problems and they can think a few steps ahead.
01:51:33.000 And they say, okay, well, if we want to solve these problems, we need to implement these strategies.
01:51:37.000 Dumb people just say, it's someone's fault.
01:51:41.000 It's just someone's fault.
01:51:43.000 Hassan, and there are other commentators, but Hassan is the kind of guy who says, You're right to be mad and blame that person for it.
01:51:52.000 Blame that person.
01:51:53.000 Blame the billionaires.
01:51:54.000 Yeah.
01:51:54.000 Exactly.
01:51:55.000 It's always some unreachable evil that you can't stop.
01:51:58.000 Now, the left says the right wants to scapegoat migrants, except when the right scapegoats migrants, they say, Hey, they're taking low skill jobs that Gen Z should be taking.
01:52:08.000 They're driving up the price of houses.
01:52:10.000 They're causing problems in supply and demand, and they're disruptive to our culture.
01:52:14.000 That's very, very different from the billionaires did it.
01:52:17.000 So, if you can think a few steps ahead, you'll go, hey, a wealth tax really wouldn't work.
01:52:22.000 Where will they get the money from?
01:52:24.000 You can't tax intangible wealth.
01:52:28.000 The left just says.
01:52:30.000 The top 1% pay 40% of the taxes.
01:52:32.000 That's why I love the question like, you know, that Dave's getting ragged on for the Jubilee thing, but he had a few good points.
01:52:37.000 He says, What's the fair share?
01:52:39.000 You want to tax the rich.
01:52:40.000 What is the fair share the rich should pay?
01:52:42.000 They don't have an answer.
01:52:43.000 There isn't one.
01:52:44.000 It's just, gimme, gimme, gimme.
01:52:45.000 It should fluctuate.
01:52:46.000 It's not.
01:52:47.000 There are people that say, gimme, gimme, gimme.
01:52:49.000 But really, the motivation now, I think, is largely hurt the people that I blame for my position in life.
01:52:55.000 It's not motivated about.
01:52:56.000 Right, because the truth is, they're all rich.
01:52:57.000 Yeah.
01:52:57.000 The truth is, poor people in the United States are wealthier than.
01:53:02.000 99.99% of all humans who have ever existed.
01:53:05.000 And I'm not trying to minimize the struggle you have with your bills, your car payment, your mortgage.
01:53:08.000 I'm going to try to minimize the struggle you have if you're a young person who can't buy a house or get married.
01:53:12.000 But it is true what I am saying.
01:53:15.000 Humans in America today are wealthier than the overwhelming majority of all humans who have ever existed.
01:53:21.000 So the challenge is always relative.
01:53:23.000 That doesn't mean you're wrong when you say, I wish I could own a house and I want to have a family.
01:53:27.000 And it sucks that it's become harder and harder to do.
01:53:29.000 And we want to solve for those problems.
01:53:31.000 And the most black millionaires are in America, despite systemic racism, right?
01:53:35.000 And the challenge is, these progressives don't have to work.
01:53:40.000 They don't.
01:53:40.000 And many of them don't work.
01:53:42.000 They're professional activists.
01:53:44.000 They eat whatever they want, whenever they want.
01:53:46.000 They got hot, clean, running water, and they're upset about it.
01:53:49.000 That's part of why I've softened the war in the 90s.
01:53:52.000 Yeah, the war in the 90s.
01:53:54.000 Like, I used to rail against that thing, but as I sit here in my air conditioning talking to the internet for money, I realize I'm living on the back of the empire.
01:53:54.000 The empire.
01:54:02.000 So, like, I'm not going to tear it down.
01:54:04.000 I used to be the kind of tear it down guy.
01:54:06.000 I just.
01:54:06.000 Be realistic about what you're utilizing in life and don't rip it apart.
01:54:10.000 Well, you know, it's first world problems, right?
01:54:12.000 Like when people say things, you know, like I was giving the joke earlier, like, you know, black people complain all the time about systemic racism and all this, you know, oppression, whatever.
01:54:19.000 It's like, dude, we have the most black millionaires here than anywhere else in the world.
01:54:22.000 Like, you know, yeah, civil rights era.
01:54:24.000 I get it.
01:54:25.000 But yeah, right?
01:54:26.000 Go back to Wakanda and get some vibranium.
01:54:28.000 Hold on.
01:54:29.000 Wakanda is in Illinois.
01:54:30.000 Liberia is in Western Africa.
01:54:33.000 I mean, that the vibranium is in Illinois.
01:54:34.000 Yeah, if it was very unappreciable.
01:54:36.000 There is a town in Illinois called Wakanda.
01:54:37.000 I agree.
01:54:38.000 Part of Chicago Metro, I used to go through all the time.
01:54:40.000 I don't know.
01:54:40.000 And it's like, I want to give people perspective to be appreciative of what they have, but without taking it away from them.
01:54:47.000 I encourage you to go to a foreign country and live in a relatively destitute area for a while where you barely get a trickle of shower water.
01:54:52.000 Been to Sudan, been to Egypt.
01:54:54.000 It makes you really appreciate traveling the world makes you really appreciate what we have here.
01:54:58.000 You've been to Juba?
01:54:58.000 I'm sorry?
01:54:59.000 Never been to Juba, no.
01:55:00.000 South Sudan?
01:55:01.000 No.
01:55:02.000 Well, my family's from the north, but the GDP is $300 per capita.
01:55:07.000 $300.
01:55:07.000 I believe it.
01:55:08.000 Yeah, I believe it, though.
01:55:10.000 It means they're living off like.
01:55:11.000 $24 a month.
01:55:13.000 Not even $24.
01:55:15.000 Have you been there?
01:55:16.000 Oh, man.
01:55:16.000 No.
01:55:17.000 Do they have convenience stores or is this like chicken?
01:55:18.000 Of course.
01:55:19.000 Okay.
01:55:19.000 Of course.
01:55:20.000 And then when you look in South Sudan at like the American embassy, it's like this little square of perfect, pristine, and like it's nice.
01:55:27.000 And everything else is dirt and huts and broken and uncapped.
01:55:31.000 I mean, I went as a kid.
01:55:32.000 It's like 95.
01:55:33.000 But that was back when it was one country.
01:55:35.000 Now, obviously, it's Sudan, then South Sudan.
01:55:36.000 But yeah.
01:55:38.000 We were looking around on the earth on this show and I was looking at Algeria, I think it is.
01:55:43.000 Is it?
01:55:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:55:46.000 Taman Reset.
01:55:47.000 It's a city in like the dead middle of the Sahara in a mountain.
01:55:51.000 It's like straight in the middle of the Sahara, and it's got like 150,000 people living there.
01:55:56.000 Got an airport.
01:55:56.000 I'm like, that would be a place to go.
01:55:57.000 That sounds fun.
01:55:59.000 Algeria.
01:56:01.000 You'd probably, I'd assume because it's an arid wasteland, you're not going to get a lot of parasites.
01:56:08.000 True.
01:56:09.000 Sandworms.
01:56:09.000 Pretty crazy.
01:56:10.000 Yeah.
01:56:10.000 I don't know if that's a good place to go.
01:56:10.000 Sandworms.
01:56:12.000 That seems like a fun place to go.
01:56:14.000 Sounds cool to me.
01:56:16.000 Are there ticks and lice in the sand?
01:56:16.000 Yep.
01:56:18.000 I don't know.
01:56:19.000 But we got the super chat from Dustin Hayes.
01:56:21.000 He says New World screw worm has hit the U.S.
01:56:24.000 This affects all livestock and native wildlife.
01:56:27.000 Please bring this up.
01:56:28.000 What's New World Screwworm?
01:56:31.000 Sounds really.
01:56:32.000 Do you work for the World Economic Forum?
01:56:35.000 Cochleomia hominivorax.
01:56:40.000 Oh, it's one of those flies that injects its.
01:56:43.000 Oh, my God.
01:56:45.000 No way.
01:56:46.000 What?
01:56:47.000 Like a bot fly.
01:56:48.000 Oh, man.
01:56:49.000 The New World Screwworm.
01:56:52.000 It's a species of parasitic blowfly.
01:56:54.000 I'll pull this up.
01:56:55.000 These are gross.
01:56:55.000 This is bad.
01:56:58.000 Infestation of a live vertebrate animal by a maggot is scientifically termed my, what is this, meiasis?
01:57:04.000 Meiasis?
01:57:05.000 It'll be maggot.
01:57:07.000 What does it do?
01:57:08.000 So, what do they do?
01:57:09.000 They like embed in the, oh, yeah, dude.
01:57:12.000 Under the skin.
01:57:13.000 Yup.
01:57:14.000 And then a larva grows into a fly and breaks out of your body.
01:57:17.000 Well, I'm not saying you because it's not going to happen to you.
01:57:19.000 Yep.
01:57:20.000 But if it were to happen to that poor cow.
01:57:22.000 Whoa, dude, that's nasty.
01:57:24.000 June 3rd, 2026, the USDA has confirmed the presence of the New World Screw Worm in the United States, specifically in a three week.
01:57:31.000 Old calf in Zavala County, Texas.
01:57:34.000 This direction follows recent findings of the past in Mexico, it is close to 25 to 31 miles from the US Mexico border.
01:57:39.000 And they do infect humans.
01:57:41.000 This is what I'm talking about.
01:57:41.000 Yes.
01:57:42.000 Hold on.
01:57:43.000 The US previously confirmed its first human case in Maryland in 2025 involving a traveler returning from El Salvador.
01:57:50.000 So actually, the range does include southern United States.
01:57:55.000 It just looks like a normal.
01:57:56.000 Oh, no, no.
01:57:56.000 It says largely eradicated.
01:57:57.000 So it's come back.
01:57:58.000 They've been working on it.
01:58:00.000 Oh, so these illegal immigrants are bringing screwworms back.
01:58:02.000 A fly is going to land on you and lay an egg in your arm.
01:58:04.000 And then one day, Or in your eye when you're sleeping or something.
01:58:04.000 I'm gross.
01:58:08.000 Can you imagine how gross that is?
01:58:09.000 Oh, God.
01:58:09.000 How gross horror movies are.
01:58:11.000 We need stuff like this to remember that nature is the enemy.
01:58:14.000 It's not each other.
01:58:15.000 We're on the same team as humans.
01:58:17.000 Gaia.
01:58:17.000 Yeah.
01:58:18.000 It's not George Soros.
01:58:19.000 It's Gaia.
01:58:19.000 Yeah, absolutely not.
01:58:21.000 Gaia out to shake some shit.
01:58:22.000 We need to convert.
01:58:23.000 You know, not a day goes by.
01:58:25.000 I'm not driving past some big open field and just thinking to myself, could this not be improved by a Walmart and like a shopping center and parking lot?
01:58:34.000 Just pain.
01:58:35.000 You know what I mean?
01:58:36.000 I just see all these trees and I'm like, enough.
01:58:38.000 Cut them down.
01:58:39.000 Walmart.
01:58:40.000 That's right.
01:58:40.000 So beautiful from a distance, man.
01:58:42.000 But walking under tree canopies, I get freaked out from the ticks these days.
01:58:45.000 I haven't been going under trees lately.
01:58:47.000 They'll jump on you and then they'll bite you.
01:58:50.000 They'll burrow their heads into your body and then you can never eat a cheeseburger again.
01:58:54.000 You gotta like peg your pants so they can't get up under your socks and like.
01:58:58.000 You can just put on like.
01:59:00.000 Wear a hat.
01:59:00.000 Put on deep woods off.
01:59:02.000 They jump off of trees and land on you.
01:59:04.000 Yeah, they climb up onto the tall stalks of grass and wait.
01:59:07.000 And then when you walk by, they jump on you.
01:59:09.000 We're just learning about this mosquito called the.
01:59:11.000 The Asian tiger mosquito.
01:59:13.000 Ever see one of those?
01:59:13.000 They're black with white stripes.
01:59:15.000 They're real aggressive.
01:59:15.000 They were in New York City in like 2009 or 13 or something.
01:59:19.000 What do they give you?
01:59:20.000 Like AIDS or something?
01:59:21.000 I don't think they were transmitting anything in particular, but they're real aggressive mosquitoes and they're like little.
01:59:25.000 They're like streamlined looking.
01:59:28.000 Streamlined little mosquitoes.
01:59:30.000 Asian tiger mosquitoes.
01:59:31.000 I hate bugs, but the only benefit they really give is like for, you know, besides nature stuff, they are pretty good when it comes to figuring out like, you know, how long someone's been deceased for solving crimes for murder.
01:59:41.000 Mosquitoes?
01:59:42.000 No, like flies and stuff like that.
01:59:45.000 Oh.
01:59:45.000 Like, yeah, do you guys hear about that case with David the singer?
01:59:48.000 Oh, yeah.
01:59:48.000 Uh-uh.
01:59:49.000 So they left that girl on a Tesla, like the underage girl?
01:59:51.000 Yeah, that's a big part of the reason why they were able to somewhat establish when she passed away was like the development of the bugs.
01:59:56.000 Yeah.
01:59:56.000 A free-thinking dog says Al slash Tipper Gore founded Parents Music Resource Center, and this is why we got the explicit lyrics labels and ESRB on games in the late 90s.
02:00:08.000 The explicit lyrics thing, that was a badge of honor.
02:00:11.000 But the point I'm making is that the exertion of political authority is not always about a law being passed or a cop.
02:00:19.000 Coming and knocking on your door.
02:00:20.000 When a member of Congress says, I can make a phone call and subpoena you and you'll go to prison, you're going to do what we tell you to do.
02:00:28.000 That's power politics.
02:00:30.000 So that's my point about censorship and the back door with the FBI and Twitter.
02:00:34.000 Exactly.
02:00:35.000 And so there was a, what was that email service?
02:00:38.000 Lavabit?
02:00:39.000 What was it?
02:00:39.000 Lavabit?
02:00:40.000 They wanted Snowden's emails.
02:00:42.000 I think it was Snowden.
02:00:43.000 So the NSA sent a letter that basically said, you're going to turn over everything or we'll destroy you.
02:00:47.000 So he shut his company down.
02:00:48.000 It was like, later, he's like, I will not, I will not comply.
02:00:53.000 And that's what they do.
02:00:54.000 There's no legal authority to do what they're doing.
02:00:55.000 They can just say, listen, the things we can do may not be, you know, the procedure is the punishment, basically.
02:01:04.000 All right.
02:01:05.000 A free thinking dog says, cow will take a nap while standing.
02:01:08.000 So cow tipping is real because I've done it.
02:01:11.000 When they want to deep sleep, they'll lay down.
02:01:13.000 It's hard to push half a ton, though.
02:01:15.000 So the dairy farmers that I talked to told me, so this is, so 10 years ago, I was thinking cow tipping was like a thing.
02:01:25.000 And we did this story.
02:01:26.000 I asked them dairy farmers, and they were like, that's not real.
02:01:29.000 They were like, no one, you can't not, like Beavis and Butthead did it, and it's fake.
02:01:33.000 They, they like kneel next to the cow, and then when you push against it and you, it falls over.
02:01:38.000 That's not possible.
02:01:38.000 You'd be crushed by the cow.
02:01:39.000 You can't knock the cow over.
02:01:41.000 So, you know, and cows sleep lying down.
02:01:45.000 So, I mean, maybe there are some circumstances in which someone has knocked a cow over, but the idea that people go cow tipping, as I understand it, for the first time, I typed into my search algorithm, how do you cow tip?
02:01:57.000 And it does say it's an urban legend.
02:01:58.000 Yeah.
02:01:59.000 Haven't looked deeply in yet.
02:02:00.000 It's not a real or feasible activity.
02:02:02.000 What?
02:02:03.000 Is that because you can't push the cow over?
02:02:05.000 Cows are big and heavy, man.
02:02:07.000 This guy says he did it.
02:02:09.000 Did he trip the cow?
02:02:10.000 Did he stick a couple of rocks down there to the right side of its feet?
02:02:13.000 MX Cope says Tim, the LA mayoral vote in count went from 60 to 62, and Pratt did not gain a single vote, only Bass and Ramon, which is weird considering it's one county.
02:02:23.000 So it's not like you can look at a state and say these different counties count at different rates and have different political opinions.
02:02:29.000 So when they're like, oh, the votes came in, From one county to one voting location to be counted, and Pratt doesn't get any votes.
02:02:35.000 Yeah, they're cheating.
02:02:36.000 And I'll tell you this this morning, I made a video about this, of which I said the Democrats have weeks long voting practices in California so that they can rig the election.
02:02:49.000 YouTube froze the video for a half an hour as processing, it wouldn't go.
02:02:54.000 So I uploaded a second version of it.
02:02:58.000 It said, processing will begin shortly.
02:03:00.000 It was frozen.
02:03:01.000 Now it's like 10 01, and I'm like, video is supposed to go live.
02:03:03.000 So I grabbed an old video, random.
02:03:06.000 Uploaded it to see if YouTube was broken, instantly uploaded, no problem.
02:03:10.000 So then I re rendered the video, put no title and no information in, then it processed, and once it was done pressing, I then put in Democrats are cheating, and here's what happened.
02:03:21.000 Insane.
02:03:23.000 They're playing games.
02:03:24.000 I thought it was AI scraping your voice, but at least it's just they were just getting the text, but still.
02:03:30.000 I believe that YouTube's algorithm searches titles and then decides to put their thumb on the scale.
02:03:39.000 So this has happened many, many times on specific videos, and it's always something politically charged.
02:03:39.000 Oh, yeah.
02:03:44.000 Not to mention, I do a lot of politically charged stuff, but this one's particularly charged.
02:03:48.000 And when the upload gets blocked for some reason, and it's always a procedural error, I re upload with no title, and then it's fine.
02:03:56.000 Then once it's public, I'll put the title in.
02:03:58.000 So it publishes initially as like just as Tim Pool.
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02:06:38.000 So did you guys see this story where – was it Ogles who said that homosexuals have no place in America?
02:06:44.000 I did not.
02:06:44.000 Yeah, Andy Ogles instantly, infamous post that said, Homosexuals have no place in the United States.
02:06:51.000 And Ted Cruz pushed back.
02:06:55.000 What say you, Myron?
02:06:56.000 Do homosexuals have a place in America?
02:07:00.000 So, if I was the fear, what I would do is I would put them in their own certain parts of town where they can all hang out and do their parades and have their gay clubs and do everything that they want to do, they can do their PDA.
02:07:11.000 So, unless, unless, unless, if you want to live amongst the rest of us, then you can't outwardly be gay.
02:07:15.000 If they made a social media video from that area of town, we'd, we'd, uh, we would censor it.
02:07:23.000 I'd ban faggotry.
02:07:25.000 Do you think you can ban the essence of faggotry or just the fags?
02:07:30.000 That's a good question.
02:07:31.000 All of it banned.
02:07:34.000 Ambition.
02:07:34.000 No, I'm just kidding.
02:07:35.000 All jokes aside, though, like, yeah, look, you know, when it comes to, like, all jokes aside, when it comes to, like, homosexuality or whatever, I don't think anyone really cares that much as long as, like, you're not, like, You know, pushing out your gay propaganda to everyone else and like making a part of your identity.
02:07:47.000 Exactly.
02:07:48.000 Right?
02:07:48.000 Which is like the problem.
02:07:49.000 We hate the flamboyant act like that.
02:07:50.000 We hate the flamboyant act like that.
02:07:51.000 The ostentatious ones.
02:07:52.000 It's like the guys that are like, you know, kind of in the closet, like whatever, do your thing.
02:07:57.000 But yeah, I mean, like when it's like being ostentatious, doing parade stuff, like, you know, being gay publicly, having sex in public, which I don't even know about the San Francisco stuff, it's simply unacceptable.
02:08:05.000 You didn't see the videos?
02:08:06.000 They're on X.
02:08:07.000 I don't know if anybody wants to be gay porn though.
02:08:10.000 It's a video of guys.
02:08:11.000 So what they were doing was, uh, There was a kiddie pool and it was during Pride, and they were saying, Put your mouth on my dick.
02:08:20.000 And so, guys would walk up and then just they weren't like hard blowing, but it was oral sex basically in public.
02:08:27.000 And someone went to the cops and they were like, Hey, uh, you should not allow this.
02:08:31.000 And they're like, It's allowed.
02:08:32.000 What do you mean?
02:08:33.000 Then there was the dude jumping around with the Bugs Bunny Mask naked with his dick flopping around.
02:08:37.000 Yeah, I think I saw that.
02:08:38.000 You guys see the pool they had, they had a kiddie pool and people were peeing on each other and stuff.
02:08:43.000 That's what I'm talking about.
02:08:44.000 But it was into the mouths.
02:08:45.000 Yeah, they're disgusting.
02:08:47.000 He's public.
02:08:48.000 This is Vegas, you said?
02:08:49.000 No, it's San Francisco.
02:08:50.000 San Fran?
02:08:50.000 Oh my God.
02:08:51.000 Fucking super gay.
02:08:52.000 And it's the exception.
02:08:52.000 I know, dude.
02:08:53.000 San Francisco is a failed city.
02:08:54.000 Like, that's like a perfect example of what happens when you have a bunch of gays, progressives, you know, beaners all in one place.
02:09:03.000 A bunch of drugs.
02:09:04.000 A lot of drugs.
02:09:05.000 It's like, it's completely, it's fucking cooked, man.
02:09:05.000 Yeah, dude.
02:09:07.000 Did you live there?
02:09:08.000 I've never lived there.
02:09:09.000 I've never been there, but we are trying to do a campus debate table there.
02:09:14.000 Berkeley?
02:09:15.000 No, in San Fran.
02:09:16.000 Where in San Francisco?
02:09:17.000 One of the schools, University of San Francisco or something like that.
02:09:19.000 One of these state schools up there.
02:09:20.000 I don't fucking know.
02:09:21.000 Good area.
02:09:22.000 But yeah, I mean, yeah, they'll probably get super pissed off, but we'll see what happens.
02:09:25.000 And they had a, they had, they recalled their DA as well, Chester Boudin, right?
02:09:31.000 I think that was in San Francisco.
02:09:32.000 Oh, you're not from?
02:09:33.000 Oh, they recalled their DA.
02:09:34.000 Yeah, their DA because they weren't putting people in jail.
02:09:36.000 They had the poop map in San Francisco where you could, I think it's like some black check, because I remember some dude like went and was like trying to destroy some tech company.
02:09:46.000 He's like, I'm waging a war against AI.
02:09:48.000 Do you guys remember this case?
02:09:49.000 It came like a month or two ago?
02:09:49.000 I don't know what happened.
02:09:50.000 Where the FBI raided a house and it was like some kid that was like, you know, trying to fight against AI or some shit like that?
02:09:54.000 No.
02:09:55.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:09:55.000 I don't know.
02:09:56.000 You talked about it, I think.
02:09:57.000 Yeah, the DA came out.
02:09:58.000 It was like a black woman.
02:09:59.000 Yeah, it was Chase Boudin.
02:10:00.000 Because that's already a no.
02:10:01.000 You got a black woman doing what the fuck?
02:10:02.000 Okay.
02:10:02.000 Chase Boudin was the district's.
02:10:04.000 My nightmare scenario is that, like.
02:10:05.000 2022.
02:10:06.000 My nightmare scenario would be like, I get charged with a crime for some reason.
02:10:10.000 And then I'm like, oh, man, you know, I know what's going to happen.
02:10:13.000 I'm going to go to a courtroom and there's going to be a black guy in turn if it's Myron.
02:10:17.000 It's the judge and he's like, and I'm like, oh, it's everything Myron warned me about.
02:10:17.000 Well, if it's me, you're good.
02:10:23.000 I'm the judge, man.
02:10:24.000 We'll be good.
02:10:25.000 Controversial take.
02:10:25.000 I think we need to bring torture back.
02:10:27.000 What kind of torture?
02:10:29.000 So, the way I would do it is I would have it where the jury would decide, and then if the jury says, hey, either death penalty or torture, then the victim's family gets to choose the methodology.
02:10:41.000 We would have waterboarding, we would have the bamboo reeds, sleep deprivation, we would do all that, and then I would call the.
02:10:48.000 And I'd have completely free on demand.
02:10:50.000 I'd call it the WBNN, Waterboard Niggas Network, and it'd be completely safe, sanctioned, and free.
02:10:55.000 Now, you're going to agree with me when I tell you what we should really do.
02:10:58.000 What should we do?
02:10:59.000 So, I.
02:11:00.000 I can't speak for everybody, but I, for every city in this country, but I do believe that my solution will solve a lot of this problem.
02:11:06.000 So, growing up in Chicago, I tell you the solution to all of the, they call it gang violence, but it's not really gang violence.
02:11:13.000 It's like honor violence.
02:11:14.000 Like, young black guy goes on Snapchat and says, yo, yo bitch, a whore, fuck yo bitch.
02:11:19.000 So then the other guy, the girl's boyfriend, goes up and shoots the place up.
02:11:22.000 So, what I propose is the penalty for crimes should be they, we put you in a diaper.
02:11:31.000 And a baby bonnet and a pacifier, and we make you crawl while saying goo, boo, boo, boo, goo, boo, boo, boo, walking down Roosevelt Avenue while everybody films you and they upload those videos to the internet.
02:11:41.000 That should be the punishment.
02:11:42.000 I guarantee you, crime stops overnight.
02:11:44.000 All right.
02:11:45.000 So it's some shaming and deterrence.
02:11:46.000 My thing with the torture is with a lot of, and of course, it'd be reserved for the worst crimes, right?
02:11:50.000 It would be like the guy that stabbed Arena, right?
02:11:52.000 Or the dude that, like, in Atlanta killed a 66 year old woman, right?
02:11:57.000 It would be for the most heinous of crimes the guy that kidnapped the little girl and, like, raped and killed her.
02:12:02.000 Those are the cases where we would do torture.
02:12:03.000 Because, like, with criminals like that, right, with serial killers, these weirdos, they get off on having power and control.
02:12:08.000 Like, every single, like, if you look at any interview, like a major serial killer, the thing they get off on is like playing God.
02:12:14.000 Like, Ted Bundy used to really enjoy strangling them, and then they pass out, then it'd come back.
02:12:18.000 John Wayne Gacy, all very similar motives.
02:12:20.000 You need to deter it where it's like, not only are we gonna take that power from you, we're gonna have the power, and the family's gonna torture you, and you're gonna look like a bitch.
02:12:27.000 I don't, the thing is, the motivations for a lot of the violence in Chicago is, Being hard.
02:12:34.000 So, a lot of it is gang based too, like, you know, BDs and GDs, like, there's a whole.
02:12:37.000 That's actually really not a big component of the violence.
02:12:40.000 The violence is, are you disrespecting me?
02:12:42.000 It's all about being hard.
02:12:43.000 And they say, you gotta be hard, brah.
02:12:45.000 And so, what happens is some dude will be like, you're being a pussy little bitch.
02:12:48.000 Don't you fucking tell me a bitch, I'll shoot you as they put a gun and they fan money.
02:12:52.000 Make them a little bitch.
02:12:53.000 Make them crawl around in a baby diaper.
02:12:55.000 I guarantee you, if you put a guy in a stockade with a butt plug in, he'll, like, if you're like, the penalty for you guys, if you commit any of these crimes, Is we're gonna strip you naked, put you in a stockade, and we're gonna slowly insert a butt plug in while everybody films it.
02:13:08.000 Then we're gonna leave you with the butt plug for three days.
02:13:10.000 Don't worry, we'll feed you.
02:13:11.000 They'd be like, fuck that, dude.
02:13:13.000 I'm telling you this, I've ridden in cars with dudes with tons of illegal guns in Chicago.
02:13:17.000 It's about to turn, right?
02:13:18.000 And they go like this.
02:13:19.000 But that's what it's supposed to be, right?
02:13:21.000 They say things like, I'm literally driving in a car, and the dude goes, man, when I go to jail, I'm gonna hook up with these boys, man.
02:13:28.000 We're gonna run that shit.
02:13:29.000 And I'm like, when you go to jail?
02:13:31.000 And they're like, yeah, bro.
02:13:33.000 It's like, no, it's baked in.
02:13:34.000 Every fucking dude on the south side of Chicago, mostly in the black neighborhoods and some Hispanic, their worldview is, I will go to jail.
02:13:44.000 There is zero deterrence.
02:13:46.000 Not one of these guys is like, oh no, jail.
02:13:48.000 They're like, man, when I go to jail, I'm going to do this thing.
02:13:50.000 I'm like, okay, how about instead of jail, we put you in a stockade with a baby bonnet on, and then your victim is allowed to lube up a butt plug and shove it in while everyone watches.
02:14:01.000 It'd be like, fuck, dude.
02:14:02.000 You'd have to do that.
02:14:03.000 It'd be terrifying.
02:14:04.000 I think we both have the same bottom line where it's like ridiculous.
02:14:08.000 Making them look weak, et cetera.
02:14:09.000 Like, my is like with the torturers, it's like, yeah.
02:14:11.000 You take away their honor.
02:14:12.000 You take away their dignity.
02:14:13.000 But, yeah, I agree.
02:14:14.000 And you do it publicly.
02:14:16.000 We're getting to the same conclusion in different ways.
02:14:19.000 Why did the American government say no more of that?
02:14:22.000 What was.
02:14:23.000 Cruel and unusual punishments.
02:14:24.000 Is it the Eighth Amendment?
02:14:26.000 Cruel.
02:14:27.000 There's a.
02:14:28.000 That's seven.
02:14:28.000 You got to be the fifth.
02:14:29.000 I'm sorry.
02:14:30.000 That's six, right?
02:14:30.000 It's like, no, six, I think, is like the attachment of your rights.
02:14:30.000 I'm sorry.
02:14:34.000 I think after you're indicted, I think eighth is like cruel and unusual punishments.
02:14:38.000 It's like tarring and feathering because that would actually strip your skin off.
02:14:41.000 Five?
02:14:43.000 Fifth is silence.
02:14:43.000 Fifth is silence.
02:14:44.000 There's a series of rights attached to four, five, and six.
02:14:48.000 It was the Eighth Amendment.
02:14:48.000 It was the Eighth Amendment.
02:14:49.000 You were right.
02:14:50.000 So they decided early on in the inception that, look, public humiliation is not good for.
02:14:55.000 Yeah, cruel and unusual.
02:14:56.000 Why is that?
02:14:56.000 Yeah.
02:14:57.000 Because, like, I would think stringing someone up and Dragging them down the street, booing and throwing mud at them are feces.
02:15:02.000 But it's subjective, right?
02:15:03.000 You can say torture isn't cruel and unusual, is it?
02:15:05.000 If you did this kind of crime, I don't know.
02:15:07.000 We could maybe massage it a bit.
02:15:08.000 But yeah, I could see people like, oh, this is cruel and unusual.
02:15:11.000 It's so fucked up.
02:15:12.000 But I look at it like, dude, if you hurt kids, like, you know, the most heinous of crimes, we're not going to torture everybody.
02:15:17.000 But it's like the guy that, like, you know, kidnapped that girl in Texas.
02:15:19.000 Like, I think for that, you need to torture these guys.
02:15:21.000 I don't think torture is a deterrence.
02:15:23.000 You don't think?
02:15:24.000 Well, I would argue what you said is also torture in a different way.
02:15:27.000 But while crawling to the wall.
02:15:28.000 The issue is, that's torture too.
02:15:31.000 Humans, as social creatures, Fear being shunned, exiled, or ostracized.
02:15:36.000 Yes.
02:15:37.000 You can never come back from someone filming a butt plug being inserted into you while you scream and beg and cry.
02:15:42.000 You can't come back from that.
02:15:44.000 These people's lives are like, they're going to be like this.
02:15:47.000 These people, they're horrible.
02:15:49.000 That's for that specific class of people.
02:15:50.000 You said for gangbangers that want to be hard.
02:15:52.000 It's not even about gangbangers.
02:15:54.000 It's just, it's the culture in the South Side and West Side of Chicago about being hard and respecting me.
02:16:00.000 And I see where you're coming from with that torture.
02:16:03.000 Like mine is more for like, You know, pedophiles and people that like really is it because torture things because what?
02:16:09.000 No, no, I was talking about like for me, the torture, like for him, it's like this is what I would prescribe to these people because I know that's going to hurt them the most for a maximum deterrence because these guys want to be hard, so let's go ahead and make them look crazy.
02:16:19.000 On my end, I'm like, yes, I also want to do that, but I'm my prescription is for a different class of criminal that is like sadistic, weird, you know, tries to rape children, rape, you know, like D gens versus these guys are like, man, I'm hard, shoot him.
02:16:32.000 Is this because that they figured out over testing through time?
02:16:35.000 I'm wondering, is that torture and causing pain?
02:16:39.000 Does just make it worse, like in the long run, when they get out of jail eventually later, they're just more psycho.
02:16:44.000 I don't understand the idea of no cruel and neutral punishment.
02:16:46.000 I really don't.
02:16:47.000 Punishment is punishment.
02:16:49.000 Let the punishment fit the crime.
02:16:50.000 Like, eye for an eye, I get doesn't make sense.
02:16:53.000 Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
02:16:54.000 But the idea is like, we should be implementing punishment for purposes of rehabilitation and moral virtue.
02:17:03.000 So they have to be effective.
02:17:04.000 And jail is not effective in any capacity.
02:17:06.000 Yeah.
02:17:07.000 They're just gangs in jail.
02:17:08.000 They go to jail and they're like, I'll do my crime here now.
02:17:10.000 It's like, you're not solving any of these fucking problems.
02:17:12.000 I'm not saying we should peel people's fingernails or shove bamboo.
02:17:15.000 I'm saying just being like, you go to jail.
02:17:18.000 Well, it's not solving any fucking problem.
02:17:19.000 You can make the argument that it actually even enhances the criminality, right?
02:17:22.000 Like when I was doing like cases against like the Latin Kings or the Bloods or the Crips or whatever, there would be like an inside, or Mexican Mafia also, there'd be like an inside version of the gang, the inside world, and then there'd be the outside world and they communicate with each other.
02:17:35.000 So they literally, it almost like enhances criminality.
02:17:38.000 And the guards are in on it in all circumstances.
02:17:40.000 They're working for the gangs.
02:17:41.000 It's fucking bullshit.
02:17:42.000 Yeah.
02:17:43.000 It doesn't really, you know, Recidivism is high for a reason.
02:17:46.000 We don't really have.
02:17:48.000 Yeah.
02:17:48.000 I feel like torture is like very close to capital punishment, kind of.
02:17:55.000 I mean, like I said, like I would use it in like extreme situations where, you know, the jury decides and then, you know, and they make it.
02:17:55.000 Yeah.
02:18:02.000 It'd be an option for the victim's families.
02:18:02.000 So it'd be a part of it.
02:18:04.000 Just put them in jail forever.
02:18:06.000 You could do that too.
02:18:07.000 But like we said before, like inhaled some criminality.
02:18:09.000 Now we're just spending money.
02:18:11.000 Like if we could implement penalties that actually.
02:18:14.000 Stopped people from committing crimes.
02:18:16.000 Like what I'm discussing with forcing a dude to be a baby bonnet is half joking.
02:18:20.000 But if we actually said the people who are suffering are terrified, I agree.
02:18:23.000 I agree.
02:18:23.000 I think it would work actually.
02:18:25.000 But they're going to be like, I'm not going to, don't get caught, don't commit the crime.
02:18:27.000 They'd be terrified.
02:18:29.000 Jail doesn't scare these dudes.
02:18:30.000 I'm telling you what's going on.
02:18:31.000 I don't think the point of jail should be to rehabilitate or to scare anyone.
02:18:36.000 It's simply removing the criminal element from society.
02:18:39.000 If you can't live in society without committing crimes, just put them away.
02:18:44.000 The island.
02:18:44.000 Well, that's the argument.
02:18:45.000 The island, there you go.
02:18:45.000 Society completely blends into the prison.
02:18:48.000 Like they have the gang on the inside and the outside that communicates.
02:18:51.000 There shouldn't be communications.
02:18:52.000 You go away.
02:18:53.000 But the guards then.
02:18:55.000 Participate in the communication.
02:18:56.000 Some guards do.
02:18:57.000 Ideally, if they could just oubliette them, you know, put them forever in the hole.
02:19:01.000 Oh my God.
02:19:02.000 It means to forget.
02:19:03.000 It was a French punishment where they would drop someone down a hole.
02:19:06.000 And that's the last you would ever hear of someone.
02:19:06.000 Oh my God.
02:19:08.000 Wow.
02:19:09.000 I think the cruel and unusual thing was like, you know, the framers, I think, like to combat what was happening in England, right, with the stocks and all the other weird punishments, like the, you know, all these torture devices.
02:19:19.000 I think that's what it was to.
02:19:20.000 I agree that, you know, you don't, the recidivism is so high.
02:19:26.000 You're not going to rehabilitate people.
02:19:28.000 Take the criminals because it's not a huge portion of society that are actually really terrible people.
02:19:34.000 Take the terrible people, put them away.
02:19:37.000 Yes, it's going to be imperfect.
02:19:38.000 It's so merciless to just kill them if you're going to do that.
02:19:42.000 It's the worst torture imaginable.
02:19:44.000 If you kill them, then their son takes over.
02:19:45.000 You need them to stay alive because you're using them to take their land.
02:19:49.000 Don't die from falling down.
02:19:50.000 The Oubliette was a hole that was round, so you couldn't climb out of it, and they would dump shit in it.
02:19:55.000 And like rats.
02:19:56.000 Corpses, other dead bodies will be down there with you.
02:19:58.000 And then sometimes they'd take you out of the oubliette and be like, are you going to be nice now?
02:20:04.000 Horrific, horrific torture.
02:20:06.000 Terrible.
02:20:07.000 Let's grab collars.
02:20:09.000 We'll start with Philly Cheese 45.
02:20:12.000 Man, I could go for a Philly cheesesteak.
02:20:14.000 I'm going to get a Philly cheesesteak.
02:20:15.000 I'm getting a Philly tomorrow.
02:20:18.000 Hi there.
02:20:18.000 What's up, Philly Cheese 45.
02:20:20.000 How are you doing?
02:20:21.000 Hey, how's it going, Jens?
02:20:23.000 Thanks for taking my call.
02:20:25.000 Phil, welcome back.
02:20:26.000 Thank you, sir.
02:20:26.000 Welcome home.
02:20:27.000 Definitely great to hear your sultry voice again on the panel.
02:20:30.000 Appreciate it.
02:20:32.000 I know it got kind of heated earlier.
02:20:34.000 Tim and Ian were kind of going at it.
02:20:35.000 So I want to do kind of lighten things up.
02:20:37.000 I know some other callers are going to have some very interesting questions.
02:20:41.000 So I wanted to discuss the best decade, which of course is the 90s.
02:20:46.000 Phil, a while back you had tweeted the 90s were an incredible time for music, except for the red hot chili peppers.
02:20:53.000 Yes.
02:20:55.000 I stand behind it.
02:20:56.000 I started doing kind of a deep dive.
02:20:58.000 I seem to uncover a kind of level of hatred that is on par with.
02:21:03.000 Myron's feelings toward a particular stand nation, as Lisa would call it.
02:21:08.000 So, first off, why so much hate, Phil?
02:21:10.000 What did Chili Peppers ever do to you?
02:21:13.000 So, and then, sorry, go ahead.
02:21:15.000 Go ahead.
02:21:15.000 Well, so I don't like the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
02:21:19.000 I don't like the way that they write songs.
02:21:20.000 I don't like that style.
02:21:22.000 I don't think Anthony Keatus can sing at all.
02:21:25.000 I think he's terrible.
02:21:27.000 Obviously, they're skilled, like Flea is a skilled musician.
02:21:30.000 He's a great bass player.
02:21:32.000 Their drummer is a great drummer.
02:21:34.000 I don't think Anthony can sing, and I don't like the songs they write.
02:21:36.000 And so that's the long and short of it.
02:21:38.000 I mean, if you don't like this, I understand.
02:21:40.000 If you don't like the songwriting, you wouldn't like any of their stuff.
02:21:42.000 Yeah.
02:21:43.000 They're very similar in the way they.
02:21:44.000 If I have to hear Under the Bridge one more time, in the 90s, Under the Bridge was played basically every 45 minutes on every radio station.
02:21:53.000 So I would want to end my.
02:21:54.000 Not in Chicago.
02:21:55.000 In Chicago, it was like Stun Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam 24 7, nonstop.
02:22:00.000 I got hit with Under the Bridge in like 93 from like every day.
02:22:05.000 It was all the time.
02:22:06.000 Constantly.
02:22:07.000 So.
02:22:08.000 The heart tissue is pretty good.
02:22:09.000 What was your other question?
02:22:12.000 Just, I guess, for the panel, what's the greatest thing to come out of the greatest decade?
02:22:18.000 Melancholy and internet sadness?
02:22:20.000 Out of the 90s?
02:22:21.000 The internet.
02:22:22.000 Bro, 1994 was like the best year for music in the history of mankind.
02:22:25.000 The amount of singles and albums that came out.
02:22:28.000 He's asking about the best thing to come out of the 90s?
02:22:30.000 Yeah.
02:22:32.000 Shit.
02:22:32.000 I was only like, it's a good decade.
02:22:34.000 Nine in 99.
02:22:36.000 There's a lot of things that you just wouldn't be able to get now.
02:22:39.000 Like Primus wouldn't go anywhere.
02:22:41.000 I don't know if you guys like Primus or not.
02:22:43.000 I love Primus, but.
02:22:44.000 Primus, dude.
02:22:45.000 I like their bass.
02:22:46.000 What?
02:22:46.000 Les Claypool's a genius.
02:22:47.000 Yeah.
02:22:48.000 I'm into melody, and they don't do like melodies really.
02:22:50.000 Bro, is it a joke?
02:22:53.000 That's semi-sonic.
02:22:55.000 That band wouldn't.
02:22:56.000 You know, you they wouldn't get any traction nowadays.
02:22:58.000 There's, I think, the 90s was really really creative, especially it's a great song, you guys are funky.
02:23:05.000 Um, especially like uh, when you consider like the 90s were like a reaction to the 80s where every band was all you know the hair metal and stuff like that.
02:23:15.000 Um, and people were just really trying new stuff musically that that uh, you know, it made the 90s a special time.
02:23:23.000 Heroin, too, I'm not suggesting you do it, but Kurt Cobain was very calm because of the heroin.
02:23:29.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, Alison was very calmly.
02:23:32.000 Alison Chains came out of the 90s, you know, prime, like as a prime.
02:23:36.000 I'd say it was probably the last real decade where like human interaction was like the predominant form of communication.
02:23:40.000 Yeah, it was probably the last decade.
02:23:42.000 Um, and then into the 2000s, we started segueing into email and then internet and social media.
02:23:47.000 So the 90s, I would say, is probably the last decade where like human interaction was predominantly human to human versus what we have now.
02:23:58.000 I could talk more about music from the 90s.
02:23:59.000 You want to know how I know it's bad?
02:24:01.000 Women nowadays they call meeting a guy in real life.
02:24:04.000 In the wild.
02:24:06.000 That's what girls call it now on TikTok, dude.
02:24:08.000 They literally call it like, I met a guy in the wild.
02:24:10.000 Whereas, like, I remember just a short 10 years ago, if you met a girl on Tinder, you would hide that.
02:24:15.000 You wouldn't, there was no such thing as like meeting a girl on the internet.
02:24:17.000 It got weird.
02:24:18.000 Now, it's weird to meet a girl in real life.
02:24:21.000 Yeah.
02:24:22.000 That's where we are.
02:24:23.000 Insane.
02:24:24.000 Just walk up to her and start talking.
02:24:26.000 Crazy, crazy ideas.
02:24:27.000 Why is this tiger growling at me?
02:24:29.000 Yeah.
02:24:29.000 Yeah.
02:24:30.000 That's literally where we are now, dude.
02:24:31.000 It's nuts.
02:24:33.000 Bro, the urban jungle.
02:24:34.000 You got anything you want to add?
02:24:37.000 Or any more questions?
02:24:39.000 I mean, I would definitely love to pick your brain about your thoughts.
02:24:43.000 They're one of my favorite bands, Learning Guitar.
02:24:46.000 John Freshante and Jimi Hendrix are like my two kind of people I try to emulate, I guess.
02:24:53.000 So definitely more curious.
02:24:54.000 I don't want to take up more of the call.
02:24:56.000 So just a couple of shout outs, though.
02:24:59.000 First off, the Discord, great community, and I definitely want to get more involved.
02:25:04.000 A lot of great people and resources and communities there just have been phenomenal.
02:25:09.000 Shout out to Chris Cornell.
02:25:12.000 The anniversary of his death was a couple weeks ago.
02:25:15.000 He was one of the greats that was a great talent that survived the 90s.
02:25:20.000 And then, Philip, just want to shout you out, brother, for keeping live music a thing.
02:25:25.000 I know Tim's talked about kind of the downfall of, at least in the future.
02:25:31.000 And I was hoping to see you when you guys were in Albany.
02:25:34.000 I had a family emergency.
02:25:36.000 Unfortunately, it was the only one that kept me away.
02:25:38.000 Sorry, I've been playing more.
02:25:40.000 All that remains in the house.
02:25:41.000 My four year old, she's loving it.
02:25:43.000 Sick.
02:25:44.000 He likes listening to actual music.
02:25:46.000 Awesome.
02:25:47.000 So, yeah, I might see a future metalhead.
02:25:50.000 I appreciate it, man.
02:25:51.000 I appreciate it a lot.
02:25:52.000 And hopefully, I don't know, with all these artists dropping out of America 250, maybe you can get all their opinions.
02:25:58.000 Hey, look, if they gave us a call, I'm pretty sure the band would be into it.
02:26:01.000 Have you heard of Blue Dot Fever?
02:26:02.000 Why don't you ask?
02:26:03.000 Who am I going to ask?
02:26:04.000 We know tons of people.
02:26:05.000 We're one degree away from the president himself.
02:26:07.000 Tell Lisa.
02:26:08.000 Yeah, there you go.
02:26:09.000 I'll tell Lisa.
02:26:10.000 You're good.
02:26:11.000 Have you heard of Blue Dot Fever?
02:26:14.000 Blue dot fever.
02:26:15.000 I've not.
02:26:16.000 So when you look at a.
02:26:19.000 When you look at a seating map of a venue, if there's seats, the ones that are available are usually blue dots.
02:26:26.000 The ones that are sold are not.
02:26:28.000 And there's a lot of artists that are canceling tours or scaling back because they can't fill the places that they want to fill and stuff.
02:26:37.000 It's getting actually pretty bad.
02:26:39.000 So our tour was great, and I'm super fortunate for that.
02:26:43.000 I'm super appreciative of everyone that came out.
02:26:46.000 But if you're into live music and you have the The money to spare.
02:26:50.000 Go check out some bands.
02:26:51.000 Go watch some bands.
02:26:52.000 Billy Joel was just saying that he no longer sells the front row, and Elton John did the same thing because they'd be the rich people would be there and they'd just be like not into it.
02:26:59.000 So they leave them open on purpose so the back people in the back can come up and the people that want to be up front get up front.
02:27:05.000 People that want to be up front at our shows are usually crowd surfing up to the front.
02:27:09.000 Hey, shout out to Chris Cornell's Euphoria Morning album if you don't know it and you like Cornell.
02:27:13.000 It was the first thing he did after Soundgarden.
02:27:15.000 It's awesome.
02:27:17.000 Hell yeah.
02:27:18.000 And also Soul to Squeeze by Chili Peppers.
02:27:20.000 I'm sorry.
02:27:20.000 What's that?
02:27:22.000 So that was a, is that a website or I thought it was a band you were talking about?
02:27:27.000 No, no, it's, I mean, you could Google it and you'll see what I'm talking about, but Blue Dot Fever is just the, like I said, the arenas or venues, when the seats are not, when those seats are available, they're blue dots and you can select your seat that way.
02:27:27.000 Blue Dot Fever?
02:27:42.000 And a lot of places, a lot of touring artists are canceling tours or scaling down their tours because they're not able to sell the seats.
02:27:51.000 In the industry, we're calling it Blue Dot Fever.
02:27:54.000 Gotcha.
02:27:55.000 Okay.
02:27:55.000 Awesome.
02:27:55.000 Thank you.
02:27:56.000 I'll check that out.
02:27:56.000 Cheers, bud.
02:27:57.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:27:58.000 Does the rock genre have the same level of influence when it comes to pushing to be independent as hip hop does?
02:28:05.000 Or is it more dominated by mainstream labels?
02:28:08.000 There are fewer people that are doing things on labels.
02:28:11.000 We've got a couple labels that are talking to us.
02:28:13.000 So it's like a whole music industry shift from.
02:28:16.000 Yeah.
02:28:17.000 It used to be gig kept.
02:28:17.000 It's just rock.
02:28:19.000 Like if you weren't a part of a major label, you're cooked.
02:28:21.000 But now, obviously, on the hip hop side, I know it's a lot of independent.
02:28:24.000 No, it's all fake.
02:28:25.000 It's all the streaming services deciding they're going to put you in rotation.
02:28:28.000 In the rock genre, same thing.
02:28:29.000 Everything.
02:28:30.000 Rock's dead.
02:28:30.000 Okay.
02:28:30.000 They killed rock intentionally.
02:28:32.000 Listen to Billy Corgan.
02:28:33.000 You want to get featured on Billy Corgan.
02:28:34.000 Billy Corgan said there was a period where he just saw the industry decided rock would no longer be a thing.
02:28:40.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously, there are still heavy bands.
02:28:42.000 Like, Bring Me the Horizon was just on tour and they were selling out arenas.
02:28:46.000 They just sold out the Radio City, Madison Square Garden in New York.
02:28:54.000 They're doing it.
02:28:55.000 Because I'm a fan of 80s rock.
02:28:56.000 So, like, I'm not too sure, like, with the contemporary.
02:29:00.000 How it is with the product nowadays and how the industry is.
02:29:03.000 So, right now, we're looking at doing licensing deals.
02:29:07.000 So, you get a distributor that'll put your music out, and they'll give you money to.
02:29:11.000 It's very similar to a label, but you still own it.
02:29:14.000 So, there's a period that the licensing company or the distribution company will be taking basically the majority of the money to make back the investment.
02:29:22.000 But at the end of that, the ownership will go back to the artist.
02:29:26.000 So, you can do that.
02:29:28.000 Labels don't like to do that because they want to own the product in perpetuity.
02:29:33.000 Especially because of the size of the investment they're looking at, which the investment is significantly less nowadays than it was, you know, 20 years ago.
02:29:41.000 You used to be able to get a million dollar record contract.
02:29:43.000 Pretty, you know, it's pretty standard in the industry.
02:29:46.000 You know, nowadays you're looking at a really, really good one would be like half a million.
02:29:51.000 So, yo, Shade, you're up.
02:29:52.000 What's going on, brother?
02:29:54.000 What's up?
02:29:55.000 Hey, what up, team?
02:29:56.000 How are you guys doing?
02:29:58.000 Dude, talking about music.
02:29:58.000 Doing well, man.
02:30:00.000 Thank you guys for having me and taking my call.
02:30:00.000 Okay.
02:30:03.000 I am calling from the sunny and very Republican Los Angeles, California.
02:30:10.000 Shout out to everybody who voted.
02:30:11.000 We can actually change things here.
02:30:14.000 True.
02:30:15.000 Good luck.
02:30:18.000 My question for the panel When Trump said he was going to drain the swamp, did you expect that to mean anti establishment independent conservatives like Thomas Massey, Rand Paul, Chip Roy, MTG, and Lauren Boebert, while strongly endorsing Lindsey Graham and elevating Mark Levin?
02:30:37.000 That's all I wanted.
02:30:40.000 Begging for it.
02:30:41.000 What were you saying?
02:30:43.000 Well, my understanding of drain the swamp was actually going after the bureaucracy.
02:30:46.000 Yeah, it was like 2016, I think, when 2015, he uttered it for the first time.
02:30:50.000 And I thought it was all going to be like silent bureaucrats are going out.
02:30:54.000 And then he put Bolton in charge.
02:30:57.000 You know what I think?
02:30:58.000 Like with that, maybe this might be a little, and I'd love to get your guys' feedback on this.
02:31:02.000 I don't think he thought he was going to win.
02:31:04.000 And he said it because it sounded good.
02:31:05.000 It was a good slogan.
02:31:06.000 Like, you know, in his mind, he's like, this is going to be awesome when I do the apprentice next season.
02:31:11.000 I ran for president.
02:31:12.000 I might have lost, but I almost won.
02:31:14.000 And then he won.
02:31:14.000 He's like, oh my God, I got to really do things now.
02:31:17.000 And that's why, like, his first administration, he couldn't get anything done because he literally had to appoint all these same swamp rats that you guys are talking about because he didn't have connections to DC like that.
02:31:26.000 This guy was a New York guy.
02:31:28.000 I think he underestimated exactly how difficult it was going to be to get rid of people.
02:31:33.000 And the surprise of winning.
02:31:34.000 Yeah.
02:31:34.000 From my perspective, it was like, you know, he was surprised that he won.
02:31:38.000 And then he's like, well, what exactly does the president do?
02:31:42.000 Honestly, like, how do, you know, he has, I mean, the president has to appoint thousands of people to positions when they get into office.
02:31:49.000 And he's like, Uh, what do I do?
02:31:52.000 You know, he's like, he, it's like the dog that caught the car.
02:31:55.000 He's coming in from like another world.
02:31:57.000 He's coming in from another major city.
02:31:59.000 DC politics is not the same as New York business and real estate.
02:32:01.000 Like, he came in from a completely different spectrum.
02:32:03.000 And he might have thought, okay, well, if I'm the president, I can just go in and say, do this, and they will do it because in the business world, that's basically how it happens.
02:32:12.000 DC is not like that at all.
02:32:12.000 Exactly.
02:32:13.000 So I think that he really underestimated how difficult the job was going to be for him because the president isn't.
02:32:20.000 You know, he's not a king.
02:32:22.000 And a lot of people that are upset with Trump now, and they're angry because he hasn't done the things that they want.
02:32:29.000 But he never really had the president, never really had the power to do the things that they were hoping that he would do.
02:32:34.000 And as a former federal government employee, I will tell you right now, like, their bureaucracy is ridiculous, and there's a reason why the private sector moves a lot faster a lot of times than the government sector.
02:32:42.000 Like, the private sector is based on performance, they're totally cool with trimming the fat.
02:32:46.000 Government's not like that.
02:32:46.000 Yeah.
02:32:47.000 When he gutted USAID or overstocked the gutting of that, that basically satisfied the drain the swamp.
02:32:53.000 Rhetoric for me.
02:32:53.000 Oh, yeah.
02:32:54.000 He nuked the swamp.
02:32:55.000 There's still swamp monsters lurking around.
02:32:57.000 He's friends with some of them, but he blew it the fuck up.
02:32:57.000 Yeah.
02:33:01.000 So.
02:33:02.000 But Massey's not swampy, even though he's from Kentucky.
02:33:06.000 Yeah.
02:33:07.000 Corinne just put out a new song a month ago.
02:33:08.000 It's got 2.7 million views on YouTube.
02:33:11.000 That's crazy.
02:33:11.000 Yeah.
02:33:11.000 Getting a paramour lately.
02:33:14.000 She's good.
02:33:14.000 I like paramour.
02:33:15.000 Yeah, but her story is so pathetic.
02:33:18.000 It's so sad.
02:33:19.000 Her life story?
02:33:20.000 Just like everything with the band.
02:33:21.000 And like, the songs are all basically her just talking about her feelings.
02:33:26.000 And she's basically like, at first, My boyfriend sucks.
02:33:30.000 Then I moved out of my mom's house.
02:33:33.000 Now it's I'm alone and desperate, and life sucks, and everybody feels this way.
02:33:38.000 It's like, Lord, yeah, the life of a female rock star.
02:33:41.000 Yeah, I did a reaction to the tour song Glum when it came out because the chorus, like, do you ever feel so alone that you could implode?
02:33:48.000 Yes.
02:33:49.000 And no one would know.
02:33:50.000 And I'm like, yes, no.
02:33:52.000 I have a wife and a child.
02:33:54.000 I have friends.
02:33:55.000 I understand.
02:33:56.000 Ian, if you didn't show up for work, people would know.
02:33:57.000 People would know.
02:33:58.000 I'm like, what has she done in her life to where that's possible?
02:34:01.000 There was a couple months where I was at the castle with no, I wasn't working here for like three months where no one would have known.
02:34:06.000 If I died three weeks, what I went by, no one would have known.
02:34:08.000 That's not correct.
02:34:09.000 No one came to the house for like weeks, dude.
02:34:11.000 No, no.
02:34:12.000 We would have known you were dead.
02:34:13.000 Maybe after a while, but I was like, if I fall down outside and cut myself, I might.
02:34:17.000 No one is around to hear me scream.
02:34:19.000 It was a weird time to be alive.
02:34:22.000 When I'm where you describe stuff is just absolutely gold.
02:34:25.000 Thank you.
02:34:26.000 Thank you.
02:34:27.000 Did that answer the question, man?
02:34:30.000 Yeah, I guess.
02:34:31.000 I mean, it sounds like nobody expected that.
02:34:34.000 And yeah, I certainly didn't.
02:34:38.000 Yeah, I think people that I think the people that expected him to come in and