Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - GOP SUSPENDS Primary After SCOTUS Ruling, Democrats DECLARE WAR | Timcast IRL

00:02:54.000 Louisiana has announced it is suspending its primaries for the House after the Supreme Court ruled that they had racially gerrymandered congressional districts.

00:03:03.000 And now Kathy Hochul is responding that New York will proceed and we're off to the races.

00:03:09.000 We already had this big redistricting battle.

00:03:11.000 Several states were already doing this.

00:03:12.000 Democrat, Republican, everybody's blaming each other.

00:03:15.000 But now with this Supreme Court ruling, basically every single state has an opportunity to make an argument they need to redistrict just before.

00:03:24.000 The midterm elections.

00:03:25.000 Now, some prominent Democrats say it won't matter because mail in votes have already been sent out in many of these Republican states.

00:03:31.000 Anyway, so what are they going to do about it?

00:03:32.000 The ballots are already out.

00:03:34.000 Louisiana just said, so what?

00:03:36.000 They've suspended the primary.

00:03:38.000 They are going to redraw their maps in the 11th hour to give the Republicans two more seats.

00:03:44.000 And Democrats are pissed, but I don't see them complaining about Virginia.

00:03:48.000 So nobody really has a leg to stand on.

00:03:50.000 This is it.

00:03:51.000 This is the game.

00:03:52.000 Take your state, take your control, turn it into a 100% Democrat or Republican state.

00:03:57.000 And then we'll see who wins.

00:03:58.000 Republicans are going to win.

00:03:58.000 Oh, what's that?

00:03:59.000 That's right.

00:04:00.000 Right now, if every state were to go blue and red purely, it would be a one seat Republican advantage.

00:04:07.000 Not particularly good, but better than Democrats losing 30.

00:04:11.000 If the VRA, gerrymandered districts, are redrawn, the Republicans can capture 30 seats.

00:04:18.000 Now, here's what gets crazy.

00:04:19.000 Based on interstate migration, Democrats are already expected to lose something like 20 seats, some ridiculous number.

00:04:30.000 You combine this with the VRA, and we are looking at the potential for a permanent Republican supermajority.

00:04:37.000 I mean it, supermajority in the House, where they're going to have upwards of 30 or 40 seats above Democrats.

00:04:43.000 So, this is the Democrats, they've got to go full scale warfare on this one.

00:04:48.000 That's why Hakeem Jeffery said maximum warfare.

00:04:51.000 And he's proposing retaliation.

00:04:54.000 Now, the funny thing is, he says, oh, yeah, well, you know, Illinois, New York, and California, and everyone's already like, you've already gerrymandered those states beyond recognition.

00:05:03.000 I mean, You can squeeze a little bit more out of California, but Illinois, I don't know what you can get to that thing.

00:05:08.000 That's like trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip, but they'll try.

00:05:12.000 And this is going to get real interesting.

00:05:13.000 So we'll talk about that.

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00:05:26.000 Apparently, he fired buckshot at close range.

00:05:28.000 The agent was okay, just struck his vest, but you could actually see the shots fired in quick succession.

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00:07:46.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Theo Wold.

00:07:50.000 Yeah.

00:07:51.000 Great to be here, guys.

00:07:52.000 Thanks for having me.

00:07:52.000 Who are you?

00:07:53.000 Theo Wold, Trump 45 White House alum and DOJ, former Solicitor General of Idaho.

00:07:53.000 What do you do?

00:08:00.000 And, uh, Probably the best thing about me.

00:08:02.000 I'm a dad to five kids.

00:08:04.000 That's absolutely incredible.

00:08:05.000 That is the best thing.

00:08:06.000 People got to have more babies. 0.91

00:08:07.000 Yeah.

00:08:08.000 Amen.

00:08:08.000 I've been hanging out with my daughter all day and she's giggling and sassing.

00:08:12.000 Career is like awesome when you're young, but then when you're in your older years, it's like, okay, I already did it.

00:08:16.000 Now what?

00:08:17.000 That's like supposed to be family, you know, for the second part of your life.

00:08:17.000 Well, you do both.

00:08:20.000 You do both, you know?

00:08:21.000 You look like a young man.

00:08:21.000 Do both.

00:08:22.000 When'd you get started?

00:08:25.000 10 years ago.

00:08:26.000 Had a honeymoon baby and we've been going ever since.

00:08:26.000 Wow.

00:08:26.000 Nice.

00:08:29.000 That sounds like the right way to do it.

00:08:30.000 Yeah.

00:08:31.000 Honeymoon baby.

00:08:31.000 Yeah, totally.

00:08:32.000 Nice, nice.

00:08:33.000 It'll be good to have you because we're talking about all of this gerrymandering stuff and the lawsuits in states, and I think you can help us out with that.

00:08:40.000 Thanks for having me.

00:08:40.000 So thanks for coming.

00:08:41.000 A lot of here is here, of course.

00:08:43.000 White House correspondent here at Timcast, a lot of Eliyahu.

00:08:45.000 It's good to be here.

00:08:46.000 Looking cleanly shorn.

00:08:47.000 Sorry to interrupt you there.

00:08:48.000 So it's all good.

00:08:49.000 What did you say?

00:08:50.000 Looking cleanly shorn.

00:08:51.000 You look nice.

00:08:52.000 I got a sense of shave.

00:08:52.000 Thank you.

00:08:54.000 Mustache is impressive.

00:08:55.000 Thank you.

00:08:56.000 He's trying to look like his hero, John Bolton.

00:08:59.000 Oh.

00:09:00.000 Well, given the circumstances, I figured I had to bring you back and come on strong.

00:09:03.000 What's up, bros?

00:09:04.000 Ian Crossland in the house.

00:09:05.000 Carter Banks.

00:09:05.000 Good to be here.

00:09:06.000 Carter Banks also in the House.

00:09:08.000 And let's go, Tim.

00:09:09.000 Here's a story from the Washington Post.

00:09:10.000 Louisiana House suspends House primaries as red states face pressure to redistrict.

00:09:16.000 Governor Landry issued the order pausing next month's primaries until lawmakers can approve a new map, which could help the GOP gain one or two seats in the state this fall.

00:09:25.000 Now, it's not just Louisiana following the Supreme Court ruling.

00:09:29.000 Kathy Hochul moves to change the New York district map after SCOTUS ruling bans race based gerrymandering.

00:09:36.000 So I will say this.

00:09:37.000 In the end, if you get rid of all these VRA districts, you're looking at 20 to 30 seats gained by Republicans. 0.93

00:09:44.000 Combine that with the 2030 census, we are looking at Democrats losing an additional 20 or so seats.

00:09:49.000 I mean, this news is apocalyptic for Democrats.

00:09:52.000 Now, I will stress this with the news that, with the ruling from the Supreme Court, you got a lot of people saying, of course, that Republicans can gain a bunch of seats.

00:10:04.000 But the truth is, Democrats can as well.

00:10:06.000 If there's purple or blue controlled states, they can just all.

00:10:10.000 Argue, you know what?

00:10:11.000 We should redraw our maps too, just to be sure.

00:10:15.000 And if they have the political power, they're going to make that argument.

00:10:18.000 This map is one of the most interesting.

00:10:20.000 This is a map if all of the states maximally gerrymandered what it would look like.

00:10:26.000 Now, to be fair, Maine probably could eliminate this red seed, but the argument for this map is Maine is fairly split.

00:10:34.000 If you dilute too much of the blue, then you might actually just create two toss ups.

00:10:38.000 In order to create maximally Red and blue districts, you end up with 217 Democrat to 218 Republican, and it will just be this.

00:10:47.000 No more, I live in a district and there's mixed representation.

00:10:50.000 It's literally just if your state is red, you're red. 0.99

00:10:52.000 If your state is blue, you're blue.

00:10:54.000 And I really do love this California map that people are showing off because all it does is put like 30 districts in San Francisco.

00:11:01.000 You see this?

00:11:03.000 Every single district just touches San Francisco to make sure it's a Democrat district.

00:11:07.000 And this is one of the maps proposed by Democrats to eliminate four Republican seats.

00:11:12.000 So, what I will say is, all of the news seems to be good for Republicans going into this midterm if they take this action.

00:11:18.000 The question is, will they take the action?

00:11:21.000 I think that's the crucial question.

00:11:23.000 And it's the initial answer here from Jeff Landry is yes.

00:11:27.000 I think he's already set this off where neighboring state, you know, Kay Ivey in Alabama, her first response to the court case was sorry, we've got some pending federal litigation.

00:11:38.000 We're not going to be able to do this.

00:11:40.000 So the gauntlet's thrown not just at the Democrats, but I think the other Republican governors in the Southeast by Governor Landry here.

00:11:46.000 So it's a big move.

00:11:48.000 Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts on what's going on here.

00:11:50.000 I don't know if you guys have also mentioned maybe yesterday or earlier this week that Florida's also planning their own redundancy.

00:11:55.000 Redistricting.

00:11:56.000 That would flip four seats, I believe.

00:11:57.000 Four seats that would flip to the GOP.

00:12:00.000 You know, you have to imagine at the end of the day, if all these states go to their maximum gerrymander, as like your previous picture or map showed, you have to imagine all of this just becomes a wash and we just wasted a ton of time where these states probably could have been doing something better and passed bills that affect their constituents' lives in a meaningful way.

00:12:20.000 But instead of doing that, they're clogging up their state government time with this.

00:12:26.000 And I don't know.

00:12:27.000 You have to think it's a.

00:12:29.000 Just a waste of time and resources.

00:12:31.000 And I mean, people were fundraising based off of this.

00:12:32.000 They were ballot initiatives in some states.

00:12:35.000 And if all of this is just a wash, it just goes to show how far it is.

00:12:38.000 Well, Jarvis, listen.

00:12:39.000 I mean, two seats from Louisiana.

00:12:42.000 Sure.

00:12:42.000 Well, we'll have to see what will happen in the midterms ultimately if Trump avoids having the Democrats take over.

00:12:48.000 I will say, though, for New York's case, I think Kathy Hochul might be wrongfully optimistic.

00:12:54.000 Back in 2014, the New York State House passed a constitutional law preventing.

00:13:01.000 Gerrymandering from happening.

00:13:02.000 And she actually tried to do so in 2022. 0.57

00:13:04.000 And the Supreme Court in New York shot that down.

00:13:07.000 Yes, but the new Supreme Court ruling creates precedent that can be used by anyone.

00:13:07.000 It would not be.

00:13:13.000 Kathy Hochul can now argue they have no choice because they have to reassess the maps to make sure they're not racially gerrymandered.

00:13:20.000 And then they can just argue, you know what?

00:13:23.000 This one is. 0.93

00:13:24.000 They find a Republican district, too many Hispanic people, too many white people. 0.61

00:13:29.000 They can make any argument they want at this point. 0.65

00:13:31.000 Yeah.

00:13:31.000 And I mean, there are seven Republican seats in New York that they could squeeze out.

00:13:35.000 Here's the crazy thing about the ruling is that what Alito said was the only guarantee you have as a minority is that you won't be, they won't use race as a factor in your district.

00:13:48.000 Now, let's say they end up redistricting in New York.

00:13:52.000 Well, then someone files a lawsuit, says, oh, no, they used race, they're just lying.

00:13:57.000 And then it goes to court again to try and figure out whether they used race or not.

00:14:00.000 And then New York says, no, we did it by politics.

00:14:02.000 And he's going to say, then how come it's got a higher proportion of, you know, black and Hispanics than white people? 0.73

00:14:06.000 So, Now, what are they supposed to do?

00:14:08.000 In order to avoid any challenge to the map, every district must be parity with nation level statistics on ethnicity and race?

00:14:16.000 That can't happen.

00:14:17.000 That's also a very communist way to look at things.

00:14:20.000 We are all the same.

00:14:21.000 So, what happens to Chicago when they say this district is majority black?

00:14:26.000 It's a racially gerrymandered district. 0.56

00:14:28.000 So, Illinois can't get really any more Democrat.

00:14:32.000 To be fair, some of the maps people have made of Illinois to make it Democrat, every district is a thin vertical stripe that goes up and touches Chicago.

00:14:40.000 It's the. 0.89

00:14:41.000 Yeah, they could make the craziest dumb maps, but I think those wouldn't pass. 0.96

00:14:45.000 But they've already gerrymandered to Oblivion to create Democrat seats. 0.98

00:14:48.000 I don't know how they make more Democrat seats than they already did. 0.72

00:14:51.000 Yeah, and I think the interesting thing in citing Chicago as an example is the Democrats are also in something of a political bind with one of their leading constituency groups here because there's some seats that you cannot reconfigure without sacrificing black members of Congress. 0.67

00:15:06.000 And so, I mean, Democrats could go to maximally redraw Illinois, but you're going to lose some of those old school black Democrats like a Danny Davis or someone like that or Benny Thompson in Mississippi, for example. 0.58

00:15:18.000 He's going to lose his seat.

00:15:18.000 So I think, yeah, when you're looking at the Illinois map.

00:15:21.000 Look at this Illinois map.

00:15:22.000 It's insane, but there's also going to be a lot of pressure on Democrats, especially in New York, to keep some of those safe black members of Congress in some kind of seat, even if it's not a majority black district.

00:15:33.000 Can we just talk about how insane that is?

00:15:35.000 That imagine, you know, Democrats come to you and they say, hey, we're going to make it so your district is all black people.

00:15:43.000 And you're a black guy and you're like, but I'm a big fan of Thomas Sowell, and the guy across the street is a communist who wants to vote for communism.

00:15:52.000 How are we going to share a representative when our political values are totally different?

00:15:56.000 Doesn't matter. 1.00

00:15:57.000 You're both black. 1.00

00:15:58.000 That's the Democrat strategy. 0.94

00:15:59.000 That's their ethos.

00:16:01.000 That's insane. 0.98

00:16:03.000 What brings you all together is not whether you understand, agree with, or disagree on policy, it's your skin.

00:16:09.000 That's what Democrats are saying with the VRA.

00:16:11.000 I do think, I mentioned this last night, I think that it came from a place where when they were blockbusting and like all the rich white guys would stage, take like 18 blocks of nice area and they'd say, no, black people can't move in, or they wouldn't say it out loud.

00:16:23.000 That's redlining, not blockbusting.

00:16:24.000 Redlining, thank you, thank you, redlining, redlining.

00:16:26.000 And then they, you know, the blockbusting is when they intentionally blockbust. 1.00

00:16:28.000 Do move black people into white neighborhoods. 0.99

00:16:30.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

00:16:31.000 Okay.

00:16:32.000 So redlining, and then they would just turn down their applications.

00:16:35.000 They wouldn't rent to them and things.

00:16:36.000 And then, so then the lawmaker's like, look, we have to make sure these people still have a voice on the outskirts of town.

00:16:41.000 We can't let these people in the middle of town control everything.

00:16:44.000 So I see where it comes from.

00:16:45.000 But I think it's gone too far over decades and decades.

00:16:45.000 No, no, no.

00:16:47.000 It was always, always silly to say what makes your voice is your race. 0.97

00:16:54.000 That was always silly to say.

00:16:56.000 Yeah, it was supposed to be your location.

00:16:58.000 I mean, it's supposed to be where you are.

00:17:00.000 Well, it's not necessarily location.

00:17:01.000 Geography does.

00:17:02.000 Play a role, but it's economics.

00:17:04.000 It's economic standing.

00:17:05.000 It is industry.

00:17:07.000 So, what they do with these maps, I mean, let's pull up this Illinois proposed map.

00:17:11.000 To gerrymander Illinois and make it all Democrat, this is the proposed map.

00:17:15.000 I don't think anyone seriously considers this because it would never get passed.

00:17:18.000 But the people down here near, you know, let's go near East St. Louis, just south of it.

00:17:25.000 They stretch this district all the way, it's hilarious, into Chicago.

00:17:29.000 A guy who lives in Chicago and a guy who lives south of East St. Louis have very little in common economically, industrially.

00:17:36.000 They're not voting for things together.

00:17:38.000 So there's a proposed map for Louisiana after this gerrymandered, which makes a lot of sense.

00:17:42.000 The whole coastal region is a district.

00:17:46.000 Why?

00:17:46.000 These people live by water.

00:17:48.000 So there's the seafood industry, oil industry, there's flood erosion.

00:17:53.000 Coastal erosion.

00:17:54.000 So they're going to vote based on things.

00:17:55.000 And guess what? 0.61

00:17:56.000 If you're a black guy and your neighbor's a white guy, and next to him is an Asian guy, and next to him is a Mexican guy, and next to him is an Indian paraplegic transgender Muslim, Doesn't even matter because they're all going to say, We have a problem with coastal erosion.

00:18:11.000 Then they all go to a candidate and he says, I want to implement race based policies. 0.64

00:18:16.000 And they'll go, We don't care about that.

00:18:18.000 We're all mad that our homes are sinking.

00:18:21.000 That's what brings people together in terms of their interests that need to be represented in Congress.

00:18:25.000 When a congressman goes to the federal government and says, My district needs money, with this map in Illinois, they're going to say, What does it need money for?

00:18:32.000 And they're going to go, Gay race communism? 0.86

00:18:35.000 Is that representing anybody? 0.52

00:18:36.000 But if you actually broke it down by, say, like farmland, they're going to be like, we need funding for, you know, machinery subsidy, corn subsidy, or something like that, whether you agree or not.

00:18:36.000 No.

00:18:46.000 They're all going to come together and say, our district, we all work in the same area.

00:18:51.000 We have similar values.

00:18:52.000 This person represents us, and they're going to go to Congress for us.

00:18:55.000 If this map, this Illinois map, were real, would that mean that all the Republican voters then, when they vote for their representative, they have to vote for a Democrat?

00:19:05.000 How does this work?

00:19:06.000 Yes.

00:19:07.000 So, I mean, there's no, no, they don't have it.

00:19:08.000 It means that your Republican candidate will only ever get 30%.

00:19:10.000 Exactly.

00:19:11.000 Yeah.

00:19:12.000 Only ever get 30% of what?

00:19:13.000 Of the vote in your district.

00:19:14.000 Yeah.

00:19:14.000 I mean, you'd have Republican candidates, but they'd be annihilated in the general election.

00:19:19.000 But what if 60% of one of these blue local candidates vote Republican?

00:19:22.000 That's why they're blue.

00:19:22.000 They're not.

00:19:23.000 Notice, Ian, that each district is a thin strip that goes into Chicago.

00:19:23.000 They're blue.

00:19:23.000 They're not.

00:19:27.000 Oh, so this is just a color indicates the majority of the people in that zone are leaning.

00:19:33.000 Yes, that's why it's all blue.

00:19:34.000 And the middle one is light blue, indicating it's probably 55% Democrat.

00:19:38.000 So, you'll never really get a Republican winner.

00:19:41.000 The idea is everybody south of Chicago on the far right strip going down, this strip right here, every single person from this point down is a Republican.

00:19:51.000 But in Chicago, there's 200,000 Democrats.

00:19:55.000 So, when it comes to elections, the Democrats win the district every single time. 0.77

00:19:59.000 So, then if you just made Chicago its own zone and gave it like 12 seats or I don't know, whatever the aggregate proportion, then you just let all the farmers have their one.

00:20:09.000 Representative, that's how it was in Illinois for a long time.

00:20:12.000 Southern Illinois, and they in the last redistricting eliminated most of the Republican agricultural based seats.

00:20:19.000 So, this is just a maximalist move for what Democrats in Illinois have already done.

00:20:24.000 I think Tim is right, like you kind of look at it, it's like how much more can you get out of it because they've already done a version of this, nothing as obscene as that.

00:20:32.000 But so here's Illinois now, and you can take a look at Chicago and you can see they've actually kind of done this.

00:20:38.000 So, you know, why is the first district stretching this little tiny portion right into Chicago like that?

00:20:43.000 Yeah.

00:20:43.000 What's the point of doing that to make it a Democrat seat?

00:20:47.000 So then you can take a look at Rockford.

00:20:49.000 I love this.

00:20:49.000 Rockford's up here, and you stretch all the way around and down to Bloomington.

00:20:55.000 What is this?

00:20:56.000 It's because they want the city of Bloomington and normal, if we call it Bloomington normal, they want that to be in the same district as Rockford because it increases the amount of Democrats above 50% to guarantee they always win.

00:21:08.000 And then my favorite, of course, well, the other one was my favorite.

00:21:11.000 This one's my next big favorite 13.

00:21:14.000 Same thing, slicing through rural Southern Illinois farmland to connect East St. Louis, Belleville with Springfield, Decatur, and Champaign, Urbana to lump all of these tiny urban centers into one district to justify a Democrat majority district.

00:21:31.000 Because here's the reality outside of Springfield, this whole chunk, they got a lot in common with each other.

00:21:36.000 Not with Springfield, though.

00:21:37.000 Same thing with all these cities.

00:21:38.000 If they just broke these up like normal blocks based on farmland industry, there would be no Democrat seats.

00:21:45.000 They have already gerrymandered to oblivion.

00:21:48.000 I mean, if they want to try and go ham with it and do something like this, that'll never get through a court, but that'd be hilarious if they tried.

00:21:54.000 Theo, what's your, I kind of guess, reaction to these hardball politics and the escalation that we're seeing in it?

00:22:01.000 Yeah.

00:22:01.000 I mean, I think, look, I think Tim said this the other day where you take the Democrats at their word, which is it's maximum warfare, as the speaker in waiting, Hakeem Jeffries said.

00:22:13.000 And I think this gets back to the question of like, are Republicans actually going to exercise the will to maximize their advantage here?

00:22:19.000 Which is, you got to understand.

00:22:21.000 What does the game look like now?

00:22:23.000 The Democrats see what's coming, which is if you stop counting illegals in the census, if you actually eliminate race based districts, these majority minority districts, and if you stop some of the gimmicks that they played with election integrity rules in the 2020 and in some places in the 2024 election, a lot of the illegitimate electoral gains from Democrats just vanishes overnight.

00:22:48.000 And then you tie in there, like as you mentioned, Tim, the great sort where you have people leaving places like Orange County, California, and they're moving to places like where I'm at.

00:22:55.000 Boise, Idaho, or they're leaving Seattle and they're going to places like Montana.

00:22:59.000 A lot.

00:23:00.000 We are, we are right now as a country sorting ourselves.

00:23:04.000 Sadly, I mean, this may offend some people, but we're sorting ourselves ideologically.

00:23:07.000 Geographic hyperpolarization.

00:23:09.000 But I see somebody in the chat.

00:23:10.000 They said, Tim, the Republicans are doing the exact same thing.

00:23:14.000 False.

00:23:15.000 Let me show you.

00:23:16.000 So this is 270 to win, and we can take a look at the new Virginia map.

00:23:20.000 And you'll notice five congressional districts all in Fairfax County.

00:23:24.000 They actually did the meme.

00:23:27.000 We were joking about Illinois.

00:23:29.000 This is what they did in Virginia to eliminate four Republican seats.

00:23:32.000 They made all of them go into one urban environment where there's a high density of Democrats so that they could eliminate four seats.

00:23:39.000 Now, I want to show you this.

00:23:41.000 This is where the fight began.

00:23:42.000 So I got a correction from last night and checked to C. Nosky in the Discord for correcting this.

00:23:47.000 This begins in 2020 with the census.

00:23:50.000 Following the census, Texas decided to redistrict based on the new population numbers and population movement.

00:23:56.000 The Biden DOJ filed a lawsuit blocking.

00:24:00.000 The 2021 redistricting, which was on time, arguing the new districts were racially discriminatory.

00:24:06.000 Now, one could argue they are or they aren't, but either way, this fight began.

00:24:11.000 When the Trump administration got in, one of the first things they did was they dropped that legal battle.

00:24:17.000 Now, for the first time, Texas was able to finish its redistricting.

00:24:22.000 And thus they did.

00:24:23.000 From the Texas Tribune, DOJ drops fight against Texas political maps as the Trump administration retreats from voting rights cases.

00:24:30.000 The principal argument made by the Biden DOJ over racism was not even that they were eliminating seats to create new Republican seats.

00:24:39.000 It's that it made existing Republican seats slightly more red, making them less competitive for Democrats.

00:24:47.000 Again, they did not create new seats, they made less competitive seats.

00:24:52.000 For this reason, the DOJ froze via lawsuit their ability to redistrict.

00:24:57.000 When the Trump administration got in and dropped the lawsuit, Texas was now free to drop a new map.

00:25:02.000 This is.

00:25:03.000 And I incorrectly stated, many have been saying, was the Trump administration pressuring them to draw new maps mid decade?

00:25:09.000 Technically, that's true, but it's not the basis for why it all began.

00:25:13.000 The Trump administration said, We're dropping this lawsuit, and you've got several gerrymandered districts.

00:25:18.000 You can't do that.

00:25:20.000 Texas said, Okay.

00:25:21.000 Now they were finally able to drop new maps.

00:25:24.000 The Trump administration did make the argument they can't do racially gerrymandered districts, so they needed to change.

00:25:30.000 Then Democrats said, Oh, yeah.

00:25:32.000 And they started doing the same thing.

00:25:33.000 Or I should say, they started doing worse, because again, when you go to 270 to win, Eliminating four Republican districts by putting five districts in one city is psychotic.

00:25:43.000 And you can see they've done it.

00:25:44.000 Democrats wanted to play hardball.

00:25:47.000 Here's the truth both the Democrats and the Republicans made the VRA play in 2020.

00:25:53.000 The Biden DOJ made the move against Texas in 2021 when they tried to redistrict, triggering the legal battle targeting the Voting Rights Act.

00:26:02.000 Over the four years of Biden, all of these individuals in these states were preparing for this.

00:26:07.000 The moment the Trump administration backed off and the arguments had already made it to the Supreme Court, every red state was prepared to launch their salvo.

00:26:16.000 Now, Democrats have a plan.

00:26:18.000 We'll just see if that plan does anything.

00:26:22.000 I think the other thing here that is missed is the opinion from Justice Alito.

00:26:27.000 I mean, the Democrats and the far left, Mark Elias and those guys are hyperventilating about this.

00:26:32.000 But the decision doesn't say that Section 2 of the VRA is gone and obliterated as they maintain.

00:26:37.000 It just says, as Tim noted a moment ago, you can't use race as the sole basis for drawing congressional districts.

00:26:43.000 The old rules about it being compact, communities of interest, and as Justice Alito said, partisanship, all of those things can be factors for drawing seats.

00:26:52.000 And I often say, look, this is a lot like the judicial nomination wars, you know, where, oh, we nuked the filibuster, you nuked the filibuster.

00:27:01.000 And when you go back and you actually do the archaeological dig on this, the left started this fight back in the Obama administration.

00:27:07.000 If you guys remember all this push by Holder and Obama for the independent redistricting commissions, they did it in Arizona through a ballot initiative, they did it in California.

00:27:16.000 And every time the so called independent member, so you'd have like five Democrats, five Republicans, and then there would be one swing vote.

00:27:24.000 Every time the independent ended up being a Democrat plant.

00:27:27.000 For example, in New Jersey, where there was an independent commission, the member of that redistricting commission was a professor at Princeton who, at the time, was a registered independent.

00:27:37.000 He's now running for Congress as a Democrat.

00:27:39.000 And the product of those redistricting commissions were maps that always favored Democrats and obliterated incumbent Republicans.

00:27:45.000 So they were at this, again, a long time before Republicans got wise.

00:27:50.000 And then the litigation started under the VRA for what we call covered jurisdictions in places like Texas.

00:27:56.000 So the war goes back again.

00:27:58.000 As many things do to the Obama administration.

00:28:00.000 I think it gets difficult when we get into the finger pointing of who started this.

00:28:05.000 I actually think what you're referencing is going to be before what I even mentioned now, but Mitch McConnell blocking Merrick Garland's.

00:28:11.000 Yeah, totally.

00:28:12.000 Even allowing a vote on that.

00:28:14.000 And then I believe nuking the filibuster for Supreme Court nominations with only doing a simple majority for Gorsuch and then also allowing Amy Comey Barrett to get in despite it being an election year, which is the reason why he's cited for not letting.

00:28:32.000 The Merrick Garland vote proceed too.

00:28:34.000 But I think Democrats would also argue that they have a lot to point at.

00:28:38.000 And if it's tit for tat, then it's just going for the vote.

00:28:42.000 But even look at that.

00:28:43.000 So the actual judicial nomination war starts in the Obama presidency when he nuked the filibuster for appellate court judge nominees and they stacked the D.C. Circuit, which is, you know, that's just, again, one layer.

00:28:55.000 Right.

00:28:55.000 So it's like, yeah, you can look at Garland, but the actual story was when they put three Democrat nominees forward when they knew they didn't have the vote, so they obliterated the judicial.

00:29:04.000 Filibuster nomination process then.

00:29:06.000 And so, like, I think, again, I don't want to like over index on the Obama's the cause of all problems, but the redistricting war starts under Obama.

00:29:14.000 And I'll just note what was Eric Holder's job when he left the Obama White House, when he left the Obama Michigan?

00:29:21.000 He was the head of the National Democrat Redistricting Commission.

00:29:26.000 The issue is you can go back, it's a Hatfields and McCoys, it goes back to the Civil War.

00:29:30.000 Totally.

00:29:30.000 And it goes pre Civil War.

00:29:32.000 There was talk of Civil War in this country in 1820.

00:29:34.000 And then it took 40 years because things were a lot slower back then, with communication being a lot slower back then.

00:29:40.000 You can trace back every tit for tat.

00:29:42.000 West Virginia is a redistrict, a redistricting of Virginia.

00:29:46.000 Oh, West Virginia should not exist. 0.95

00:29:48.000 One of the dirtiest things.

00:29:49.000 You guys know how West Virginia came to exist?

00:29:50.000 Yeah, it was this presidential fiat.

00:29:52.000 We're just putting the Unionists here and we're going to make it its own state.

00:29:55.000 They, when the Civil War started and Virginia called up all of its young men to come fight and defend Virginia, whatever you think about the secession is not the point.

00:30:05.000 Nobody was here to vote.

00:30:06.000 The only people who stayed were like, okay, let's have a vote while all the men have left.

00:30:10.000 And the remaining people voted not to go to war because they were like, I don't want to go fight.

00:30:14.000 Everyone else went to go fight.

00:30:15.000 When these young men came back, they found out they were in a different state now.

00:30:18.000 And then Virginia filed a lawsuit after the Civil War saying, that's just Virginia.

00:30:22.000 That's our territory.

00:30:23.000 And they said, nope.

00:30:25.000 That's a different state now.

00:30:27.000 You don't get it.

00:30:27.000 You lose your territory.

00:30:28.000 Security centralization of authority, right there.

00:30:31.000 Oh, I mean, if you go back to Obama started redistricting, then the argument's going to be made, you know, yeah, but the Republicans, blah, Did the Bush admin do much in the redistricting era?

00:30:43.000 No, because I think one thing that people have missed as well in this national discussion about redistricting is the ability to use precision data.

00:30:52.000 Tools both on micro targeting and then also like the map analysis that's totally new.

00:30:57.000 Alito mentions this in his opinion, which is you can get a map like Tim was showing on Illinois because you can literally run 300 different permutations through the software of how you are parsing individual houses and neighborhoods.

00:31:10.000 And that just didn't exist to that level of precision until Obama starts redistricting, but Obama's administration also targeted the Tea Party and did a bunch of things like this.

00:31:19.000 And the argument they'll make is no, this is the Republicans.

00:31:22.000 When they were in power, they cheated and stole the election and then rammed everything through.

00:31:28.000 So, as soon as Democrats came back in, they said, We have to make sure they can't do what they did again in 2012.

00:31:32.000 Because you had, I'm sorry, in 2000, because you had Republicans for eight years.

00:31:36.000 Then Obama gets in and they said, How do we stop Republicans from stealing an election again?

00:31:40.000 Yeah.

00:31:40.000 Then you want to go back before that.

00:31:43.000 You'll keep going back in time nonstop all the way.

00:31:45.000 Things were a little bit more chill in the 90s.

00:31:47.000 But then you can go back to, you get back to, what was it, in the 50s, the incumbents all got purged.

00:31:51.000 You can go back to the civil rights era and the Democrats are accused of, you know, switching or whatever.

00:31:56.000 You go back to Jim Crow, everybody's pointing at each other having done something wrong.

00:32:00.000 General question I know you're not allowed to draw up districts based on race now, but what if they just say, no, no, no, it wasn't because they were black. 0.58

00:32:05.000 It was because they were Democrat.

00:32:07.000 I think that's the argument they made, exactly.

00:32:10.000 So then no districts will have to be redrawn at all if that's the case.

00:32:12.000 They'll just say, no, it was never about race.

00:32:14.000 It was probably about their political affiliation.

00:32:16.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that one way of reading the opinion is partisanship is totally an acceptable criteria for drawing districts.

00:32:24.000 It so happens, especially in places in the South.

00:32:27.000 Like, there's almost a one to one between skin color and party registration.

00:32:32.000 So, but I think if you were to say, hey, we just want a Democrat vote sync here, if you control the governorship and the state legislature, more power to you, you can do that.

00:32:39.000 So, here's a question I have.

00:32:40.000 Right now, in, you know, I think Mississippi has hinted they're going to redraw their maps.

00:32:46.000 For some of these other states, they've got, so let's look at the map real quick.

00:32:50.000 Let me reset the map and then show you guys down here.

00:32:52.000 These are, these Democrat districts are presumed to be what's called VRA districts, these three right here, especially.

00:32:58.000 They may be able to redraw one right here.

00:32:59.000 That will be Democrat.

00:33:00.000 I believe this one right here is considered to be gerrymandered by race.

00:33:03.000 Yeah, that's Benny Thompson's seat.

00:33:05.000 Yeah.

00:33:06.000 So, what will be the basis under the Supreme Court ruling that the states will do it?

00:33:11.000 Will the governor just say, we're going to do it because the Supreme Court issued a ruling?

00:33:16.000 Yeah, I think it's what you mentioned at the outset, Tim, which is like, you're going to have state governors who say, look, we got to comply.

00:33:22.000 We got to comply with this new case precedent.

00:33:25.000 And we're going to look at the, oh, whoops, we've got, you know, Benny Thompson's seat is a perfect example of this.

00:33:30.000 It's a little bit more compact than what you see in leftist blue states.

00:33:34.000 But those are separate communities of interest.

00:33:36.000 You go up north, those are farming communities.

00:33:39.000 It wraps in Jackson, Mississippi.

00:33:41.000 They're the capital, which is an urban Democrat vote sink.

00:33:44.000 So I think what Governor Tate, Reeves, or others will say is hey, this is new law, and we are in violation of a Supreme Court ruling.

00:33:53.000 We've got to actually sit down and redraw this.

00:33:55.000 But without a challenge, can they just abruptly say it?

00:33:58.000 Yeah, they can, for sure.

00:34:00.000 And I think Landry is showing you.

00:34:03.000 Let's say they don't want to.

00:34:04.000 Let's say they're like, we don't want to do this.

00:34:06.000 What if someone in those districts files suit and says, I am in a district that was in violation of a, that would trigger it, wouldn't it?

00:34:13.000 Yeah, and I think that's the other part of this story is not all of this is going to play out this year.

00:34:17.000 I mean, the maximum advantage that Republicans may ultimately get out of this is going to be next year and for the 28 election and probably for the 2030 redraw.

00:34:28.000 And so I think the one takeaway from this week, both with the opinion from Justice Alito and what's already been going on with California and Virginia, is the redistricting wars are here to stay because both parties are now trying to lock in real electoral advantages.

00:34:42.000 But again, as you said, Tim, Democrats are looking at a pretty apocalyptic future.

00:34:48.000 I mean, we're looking at potentially like LBJ era 1960.

00:34:51.000 You know, when the Democrats had enormous numbers in the House and in the Senate, there's a real possibility by the end of the 2030 census, when you're looking at 2032, Republicans could have anywhere between 40 to 50 seat advantage.

00:35:04.000 Let's jump to this.

00:35:05.000 This is from the Brennan Center.

00:35:07.000 And they say how state seats in the U.S. could change after the next census.

00:35:12.000 At the halfway point in the decade, newly released census data points to continued shifts in representation after the 2030 census.

00:35:17.000 So, for those that are just tuning in, what we've been talking about and in the previous segments, with the Supreme Court ruling on the VRA, Republicans could gain reasonably.

00:35:26.000 12 seats if they so choose.

00:35:28.000 However, if every single racially gerrymandered district was erased, it's around 20 to 30 congressional seats.

00:35:35.000 But wait, there's more.

00:35:37.000 The census is coming up in 2030.

00:35:39.000 So this redistricting battle will not just be happening right now.

00:35:43.000 In 2030, the prediction is that California will lose four seats, Texas will gain four seats, New York will lose two, PA loses one, Illinois loses one, Wisconsin one, Minnesota one, Oregon one.

00:35:56.000 We see Idaho, Utah, and Arizona each gaining a seat.

00:35:59.000 You see North Carolina and Georgia gaining a seat.

00:36:02.000 You see Florida gaining three seats.

00:36:03.000 And you see Rhode Island losing one seat, which is nuts because they only have two seats anyway.

00:36:09.000 So they're going to one.

00:36:10.000 They're going to an at large district.

00:36:12.000 So this is going to be we've got eight, nine, 10.

00:36:17.000 We've got 13 seat swing.

00:36:20.000 And this is a 26 vote difference now because they lose 13, Republicans gain 13.

00:36:26.000 Add in the VRA 12.

00:36:29.000 We are looking right now being modest in the next four years.

00:36:33.000 This is going to be probably by 2032 when this takes effect.

00:36:36.000 If everything plays out, Republicans will have a 24 seat majority.

00:36:40.000 Just built in without swing seats or any of that.

00:36:42.000 And I think what's interesting here about this map is under the old reading of Section 2 of the VRA, even some of those seats that California would lose and, say, Texas would gain, they're not necessarily going to become Republican seats because you're still going to have to draw majority black seats in Houston, in Dallas.

00:37:00.000 Now, with this Supreme Court opinion, those are basically transferring blue Democrat seats in California to what will become.

00:37:07.000 Red Republican seats in Texas.

00:37:08.000 Right.

00:37:09.000 So, one of the conversations that came up with the COVID exodus we saw, a lot of people were leaving New York and going to Florida.

00:37:15.000 And now, with all the weird tax policy they're doing, which is absolutely hilarious, Washington just, was it Seattle?

00:37:21.000 She just had to buy all the rich people.

00:37:24.000 The concern was if a bunch of blue people moved to a red area, would they not turn that area red?

00:37:31.000 In fact, no.

00:37:33.000 So, if you've got half a million people leaving Manhattan, the initial reaction a lot of people said was, and this is first order thinking, Well, 500,000 people are going to shift the makeup of another district.

00:37:43.000 Yeah, but those 500,000 people are dispersing in different areas.

00:37:47.000 Maybe 40,000 go to Connecticut.

00:37:49.000 Maybe 30,000 go to West Virginia.

00:37:50.000 Maybe 100,000 went to Florida.

00:37:53.000 When those 100,000 enter a district that is R plus seven, they only shift at maybe two points Democrat.

00:38:01.000 So those votes are getting diluted, meaning New York's actually going to be worse off.

00:38:06.000 The Democrats nationally not only are losing seats, they're losing urban concentration as people spread out.

00:38:12.000 The people who are moving.

00:38:13.000 From California, Texas, aren't going to the same city for the most part.

00:38:17.000 Many might, but then it gets better because even the people from California who move to Austin, they can just gerrymander Austin and say it's liberal.

00:38:25.000 That's what I'm wondering about this.

00:38:25.000 There you go.

00:38:27.000 If it's legal to gerrymander by political affiliation, can't they run like an AI algorithm to see all the voter rolls, all the addresses, and then after the fact be like, we're going to draw, because we can't do it by race anymore, we're going to specifically draw 14 Democrat districts and they're going to draw little snakes and it'll be totally legal?

00:38:46.000 Because it's only by political affiliation.

00:38:48.000 But back in the day, they didn't know people's affiliation until they went to vote.

00:38:52.000 So you were building the district before you found out who was in it.

00:38:55.000 Now you can know ahead of time and pre plan the district.

00:38:58.000 It seems like the whole system is now malfunct.

00:39:02.000 There you go, Ian.

00:39:03.000 The map we showed in the last segment.

00:39:05.000 This is exactly what you're describing.

00:39:07.000 So this is if every state maximizes the district.

00:39:10.000 The argument being made here is that the end result of the gerrymandering war is every red state maximizes for red, every blue state maximizes for blue.

00:39:18.000 I think, and the two wrinkles here would be to maximize your advantage in redistricting, you got to hold the trifecta.

00:39:26.000 You got to hold both chambers of the state legislature, except for Nebraska, and you got to hold the governorship.

00:39:30.000 So, something like Nevada, you see that there.

00:39:33.000 You got a red northern district based out of Reno, and then the southern, so the two seats there in the south, which are based around Clark County and Las Vegas.

00:39:41.000 But if there's a Republican governor, it's going to be really hard for the Democrats in the legislature to maximize those seats.

00:39:46.000 It'd probably stay 50 50 swing seats like they are now. 0.80

00:39:49.000 The other thing I think, what Tim was just laying out, the breadcrumb trail there leads to an obvious conclusion, which is this is why Democrats are flooding the nation with mass immigration. 0.76

00:39:59.000 Yep. 0.68

00:39:59.000 Because the great sort that is happening, it turns out, even if every Yankee who leaves Long Island and moves to North Carolina is still an unrepentant liberal, it kind of gets washed out and they don't actually pick up the real vote share. 0.68

00:40:13.000 And I'll say, just as a footnote, we track this pretty closely in Idaho.

00:40:17.000 And what we see actually is, The folks who are leaving California, Washington state now with the imposition of the income tax, when they're moving to Idaho, they're actually shifting both the ideological window but also the registration more Republican.

00:40:31.000 These are people who were sort of suffering under blue state policies and they're like, I'm happy to be in free, free Idaho.

00:40:37.000 Now, here's the best part the end result of this beyond the midterm is any guesses?

00:40:44.000 Electoral college.

00:40:45.000 What is it?

00:40:46.000 Electoral college.

00:40:47.000 Well, yes, but after that, right?

00:40:50.000 So, any guess on what the end of all of this will be?

00:40:54.000 If we take everything happening to its natural conclusion, and I'm not saying it happens in five years.

00:41:00.000 Is that what you think?

00:41:01.000 On Brown, on Brown.

00:41:03.000 That's like saying that.

00:41:04.000 No, that's what he was going to say.

00:41:05.000 Let me explain why.

00:41:07.000 As moderates in New York flee, what happens is congressional seats not only get broken up, but the existing seats become hyper partisan left.

00:41:18.000 So, in a district, let's say you have Manhattan, and you've got a lot of conservatives.

00:41:18.000 Totally.

00:41:22.000 Let's say you have 36% who live in Manhattan.

00:41:26.000 That are Republican.

00:41:27.000 They know they're always going to lose, but when it comes, so they always vote Democrat.

00:41:31.000 Like, for instance, my family was, I grew up Catholic to a public servant dad.

00:41:38.000 And we lived in an area where it was like union working class guys, but my dad was a conservative, but we always voted Democrat.

00:41:43.000 Why?

00:41:44.000 Every union family does.

00:41:45.000 Well, what are you voting for?

00:41:46.000 You're voting to lose?

00:41:47.000 You vote for the Democrat, it's going to, because there's one party.

00:41:47.000 No.

00:41:49.000 So here's what happens primary comes up, union family walks in and says, don't vote for the weird suit wearing commie. 0.70

00:41:57.000 Vote for the working class rolled up sleeves Democrat. 0.62

00:42:00.000 The primary was what really mattered.

00:42:02.000 Well, those moderates, people like me, we've left. 0.77

00:42:04.000 So now the primary happens again, and you've got blue dog Democrat rolled up sleeves saying, We're here for the working class, but all their voters have left, and all that's left is commies. 0.76

00:42:14.000 So the commie wins the primary. 0.65

00:42:16.000 Basically, right now in every district, the primary is trying to sort by political party the boundaries and then finding the middle.

00:42:24.000 It's not necessarily intentionally how they do it, but what happens is you go to a district, the furthest left you go, you've got hardcore tanky communists, and the furthest right you go in the Democrat Party, you have like moderate libs who hate Trump.

00:42:35.000 So, the candidate who wins panders to both the most to generate the most amount of votes.

00:42:40.000 Eliminate the moderates.

00:42:41.000 That moderate guy could only get 20% of the votes he used to get.

00:42:44.000 The communist now panders to the socialists and the communists, and now you get a communist member of Congress.

00:42:50.000 This is both geographic and governmental hyperpolarization.

00:42:55.000 With these seats moving, you will see more staunch Republicans in Congress and more squad members in Congress.

00:43:01.000 You will also then have states ideologically opposed to extreme degrees, like Oklahoma banning abortion outright.

00:43:08.000 And Colorado legalizing abortion to the point of birth.

00:43:11.000 The end result of this is you will have states with things that are legal that shock the conscience, that bleed over between each other. 0.83

00:43:21.000 You will end up with, and I'm saying this as a joke to make the most extreme examples gay race communist by mandate in Colorado and the handmaid's tail in Oklahoma. 0.77

00:43:32.000 And then eventually they start fighting with each other because these ideologies will clash because there's proximity. 0.85

00:43:38.000 The hyper polarization, I don't know how you break it up.

00:43:41.000 But what we're watching with intermigration, internal migration, as well as gerrymandering, redistricting.

00:43:47.000 Look, if you live in Virginia and they just took away your district and they're putting a Democrat in charge of where you live, a lot of people are going to say, I don't want to live in a place where the attorney general said my children should die and they're going to try and trans my kids. 0.65

00:43:59.000 We should consider moving out of this state.

00:44:01.000 You're going to see a lot of people move to West Virginia.

00:44:03.000 Indeed, which is already 86% Trump supporting.

00:44:08.000 Recommend it.

00:44:09.000 Another potential future that I've been thinking about lately is that.

00:44:13.000 You know, the two party system may change.

00:44:15.000 It may be that, like, the Republican Party splits in half and the Democrat Party splits in half, and we have a four party system for a short period of time.

00:44:22.000 How and why?

00:44:23.000 Abraham Lincoln got elected.

00:44:24.000 How and why?

00:44:25.000 Good question.

00:44:25.000 I don't know if this redistricting thing would accelerate it.

00:44:29.000 I don't disagree with you.

00:44:31.000 I don't necessarily agree, though, but I do want to, to your point, in agreement.

00:44:36.000 If you have geographic hyper polarization, it wouldn't be unquestionable to think that in a place like West Virginia, you have someone like me.

00:44:46.000 A exile from Illinois or from New York who was like, these people have gone nuts.

00:44:51.000 So I come to West Virginia and I say, firstly, I don't want to interfere in what the locals want to do.

00:44:55.000 I'm here as a guest.

00:44:57.000 I will build a life here.

00:44:58.000 I hope that you respect my voice, but I also don't want to trample on your traditions and what you've built here as longtime residents.

00:45:06.000 But you will then get the far right element.

00:45:09.000 I put that in air quotes, meaning staunch, hardcore local will form a right wing and the moderate right wing will form the state's left wing.

00:45:18.000 So basically, when you say four parties, imagine you get a big cluster of southern states that are just deep red.

00:45:23.000 But within that, you've got the MAGA and the neocons.

00:45:27.000 Now they're arguing with each other.

00:45:28.000 You've just described Idaho.

00:45:30.000 There you go.

00:45:30.000 That is the politics of Idaho.

00:45:32.000 The transplants who've come in are hard right. 0.86

00:45:35.000 And the old guard, sort of, rhino establishment is sort of the moderate. 0.96

00:45:39.000 And the fight is often for the swing Democrats who participate in the primary.

00:45:44.000 They register as Republicans.

00:45:46.000 And I think one thing you'll see in places like Mississippi is you might actually end up with some victories for the neocons because. 0.81

00:45:52.000 Those black voters now, I mean, the game theory just plays out where, like, well, I might as well participate in the Republican primary. 0.78

00:45:59.000 That way, I can get a slightly less detestable form of a Republican congressman who may be more interested in catering to my interests and my vote. 0.97

00:46:07.000 So it may reduce the likelihood of getting hyper partisan Republicans in Congress.

00:46:12.000 But I think Tim's account for what's going to happen in blue states is exactly right.

00:46:16.000 Once the moderates are gone and you've over indexed on ideology for drawing these districts, you're already seeing this in places in New York with the Jamal Bowman race a couple of years ago.

00:46:25.000 You're going to see the moderate Democrat just totally annihilated in the primary.

00:46:31.000 It's like you were saying in Idaho.

00:46:32.000 The moderate Democrats that are basically in between the hard right and the old school Republicans.

00:46:38.000 In New York, you had Republican seats that were considered to be kind of toss up moderate.

00:46:44.000 When the moderate New York residents left, all that's left are Orange Man Bad and Communist.

00:46:50.000 So when the primary happens, that moderate Democrat who tried to hold things together to compete with a Republican, he's gone.

00:46:57.000 They don't need it anymore.

00:46:58.000 They're 60% socialists now.

00:47:00.000 It's squad all the way, baby.

00:47:01.000 So back to your point, Ian, about saying four parties.

00:47:03.000 The part where I'll disagree with you is technically there will be four parties, in that there will be a hard right and an old right, whatever you want to call it, but they will all be unified against the other.

00:47:15.000 So the country is going to break up into this silly map right here.

00:47:20.000 And then what ends up happening is this chunk is completely at war with this chunk.

00:47:27.000 And I mean figuratively.

00:47:29.000 When it comes to national level politics, all of these people are going to be like, those people are.

00:47:35.000 So far removed from what we believe, they are evil, dangerous.

00:47:39.000 We're at the point, Democrats and Republicans call each other evil for a variety of reasons. 0.96

00:47:43.000 We're at the point where Democrats want to ban trans kids, Republicans don't.

00:47:47.000 Democrats want abortion to birth, Republicans want to ban abortion.

00:47:50.000 So the extreme ends are there where it's night and day.

00:47:53.000 There is no more, can we compromise?

00:47:55.000 It is, these people have pushed abortion to the point of birth, and we don't want abortion at all.

00:48:00.000 That's not stopping.

00:48:02.000 We will get to a point where it's even further than this.

00:48:05.000 You know, when we're watching, The news out there before the show, we got four channels on one screen, and you can watch MSNBC, MSNow, sorry, and CNN and Fox News at the same time, and you can see the bifurcated reality in both.

00:48:22.000 And it is insane.

00:48:24.000 MSNow can't go 10 seconds without saying the word Trump.

00:48:27.000 And this is what's crazy to me.

00:48:29.000 Criticize Fox News as biased, they talk about a bunch of different things.

00:48:34.000 Even CNN talks about a bunch of different things.

00:48:37.000 I would argue that Fox News and CNN are left and right.

00:48:41.000 CNN is left-live, Fox News is right-conservative, and MS Now is psychopath, cult, Antifa lunacy.

00:48:50.000 You watch CNN, and I'm watching CNN, and they're saying things like: the war in Iran has led to an increase in gas prices. 0.52

00:48:55.000 We're joined now by an expert in foreign policy, and he says, well, the Iranians' strategy is going to be this.

00:49:01.000 And I think Trump is making a big mistake here. 0.74

00:49:04.000 But when you look at what you're saying, and I'm like, okay, obviously this is a war, Trump's involved, I got no problem with that.

00:49:08.000 You turn on Fox News, and they're saying, look, There's a plan.

00:49:12.000 It's short term pain for long term gain.

00:49:14.000 You turn on MS now, Trump, non stop, just Trump, Trump, Trump. 0.97

00:49:20.000 Trump is reckless. 0.98

00:49:21.000 He's dangerous. 0.97

00:49:22.000 And I'm like, it's not even news.

00:49:23.000 It's literally just, you know, I got to be honest, guys, I'm going to launch a new channel and we should do this.

00:49:29.000 Elad, here's the plan.

00:49:31.000 Let's hear it.

00:49:32.000 The channel is just a 24 7 live stream where it's a Trump pinata being whacked with a stick.

00:49:37.000 You make so much money.

00:49:38.000 Yeah, that's all it is.

00:49:39.000 That's all it is.

00:49:40.000 Clip after clip after clip.

00:49:42.000 And, you know, the intro to the show is, guys, You don't need to hear me say anything.

00:49:47.000 We all hate Trump. 0.88

00:49:49.000 Just watch me for the next two hours beat this Trump pin guy with a stick. 0.89

00:49:54.000 MSNI will lose all their viewers to you. 0.98

00:49:56.000 Halloween special, you burn the Trump effigy.

00:49:59.000 You'd make so much money.

00:50:00.000 And especially the largest media markets in the country would be tuning into that.

00:50:04.000 I think that if you one upped MS Now to the legal extent, you'd easily take their viewers.

00:50:10.000 Saying Trump is outrageous and he's bad.

00:50:12.000 Eh, just say, literally just say Trump is Hitler the whole time and show World War II footage, but put Trump instead of Hitler.

00:50:18.000 Is it going to be, they're just going to switch to whoever the Republican candidate is as soon as they announce next year?

00:50:23.000 Yes.

00:50:23.000 They did it with DeSantis.

00:50:24.000 Do you remember that?

00:50:25.000 Oh, yeah.

00:50:26.000 I mean, well, this is like, this story is.

00:50:28.000 Played out over the last 20 years, right? 0.93

00:50:29.000 And this was George Bush, who was the incarnation of everything that was unholy and evil and was Satan and was a Nazi.

00:50:36.000 And now it's like, oh, he's actually a good guy. 0.67

00:50:38.000 He tells good jokes.

00:50:39.000 We love seeing baseball with him, right?

00:50:41.000 This is their shtick.

00:50:42.000 When the primary was kicking up in, I think it started in 2022, and then in 23, DeSantis became the front runner.

00:50:50.000 Trump hadn't been very present, and DeSantis was crushing it in Florida, and he has, and I respect it.

00:50:58.000 I remember sitting down at the Daily Wire saying, you know, look, I'm for DeSantis.

00:51:02.000 If he comes out of the gate, he's the guy.

00:51:06.000 They started running articles saying DeSantis is worse than Trump. 0.95

00:51:10.000 It was insane because they said Trump is racist. 0.99

00:51:14.000 Then they said Trump is the worst racist. 1.00

00:51:16.000 Then Trump is almost as bad as Hitler. 1.00

00:51:19.000 Then Trump is Hitler. 1.00

00:51:20.000 Then Trump is worse than Hitler. 0.95

00:51:22.000 Then Trump is gone for a year and DeSantis comes in and they go, DeSantis is actually worse than Trump.

00:51:27.000 And I'm like, Now, Hitler's down here and DeSantis is all the way up here based on what you've been doing rhetorically.

00:51:35.000 Yeah, and I think the argument they made was like, DeSantis will be an effective Hitler.

00:51:40.000 Do you guys remember the Don't Say Gay bill that they tried to fearmonger?

00:51:43.000 I mean, Don't Say Straight?

00:51:44.000 Don't Say Straight bill that they tried to fearmonger around DeSantis on.

00:51:48.000 Yeah, we call it the Don't Say Straight bill because the bill said that teachers could not discuss their interpersonal relationships with children.

00:51:56.000 And considering most people are in straight relationships, it was actually barring teachers.

00:52:00.000 From talking about their heterosexual coupling.

00:52:02.000 So I actually think it benefited gay people. 0.87

00:52:04.000 That's what made DeSantis Hitler at the time. 0.95

00:52:06.000 Yeah. 0.77

00:52:07.000 Oh, really?

00:52:07.000 And they were dancing in hallways.

00:52:08.000 And the fight with Disney.

00:52:12.000 And the boots also.

00:52:14.000 Yeah, yeah, the air boy boots.

00:52:14.000 Not.

00:52:16.000 Sinclair pulled that one out on him, Ashley.

00:52:18.000 Can we just drop the pretense?

00:52:20.000 I mean, you know what I really can't stand about the culture war is just the pretending.

00:52:24.000 The, you know, Republicans and Democrats both arguing nobility.

00:52:28.000 No, no, no.

00:52:29.000 Like, I think Republicans are right.

00:52:29.000 I don't care.

00:52:31.000 You think Democrats are right.

00:52:32.000 Can we just argue?

00:52:33.000 I will do everything to maximize the power of my political party.

00:52:37.000 We have to have pretense because we're using TV.

00:52:40.000 So when you're using the airwaves, you have to have an air of pretension.

00:52:44.000 You can't be truly your radical self when the world's listening.

00:52:47.000 You got to do that in a back room.

00:52:48.000 You know, there's spy satellites.

00:52:50.000 Nobody's falling for it.

00:52:52.000 It's like, it's the cringest thing ever to, you know, remember when Deepwater Horizon happened in the Gulf, the oil spill, and the CEO's like, we're terribly sorry.

00:53:02.000 Like, nobody believes you and nobody cares.

00:53:05.000 I'd respect you more if you came out and said, you know, obviously we're going to clean it up.

00:53:09.000 We're going to pay a fine for this.

00:53:11.000 It'll be a slap on the wrist.

00:53:12.000 It'll kill untold amounts of sea life.

00:53:14.000 We're not going to stop.

00:53:16.000 And we're sorry only because the malfunction happened.

00:53:20.000 We're not morally or ethically sorry at all.

00:53:23.000 And we're going to keep going.

00:53:24.000 I'd be like, okay.

00:53:25.000 It's crazy how so many people would rather be lied to than hear the harsh reality of truth.

00:53:30.000 And they're like, no, just tell me a sweet lie and let me go back to my game or whatever.

00:53:34.000 This happened this week.

00:53:36.000 When those old tweets from Mallory McMorry came out, and she has essentially what you're describing here.

00:53:43.000 One of her tweets said, Well, the future is the ring and not the horror film, but she was like, You know, the coasts will break off and they'll join with Mexico and Canada and they'll basically just napalm what's left in the middle.

00:53:56.000 Let's pull this up.

00:53:57.000 We got some CNN.

00:53:58.000 This is massive.

00:54:00.000 Make me miss California.

00:54:01.000 Deleted tweets.

00:54:02.000 Senate candidate Mallory McMorrow disparaged middle America.

00:54:06.000 So she's in Michigan.

00:54:08.000 Oh, they don't want us to read it now.

00:54:10.000 She's in Michigan now.

00:54:11.000 She's in Michigan now.

00:54:12.000 But she lived in California for a long time.

00:54:15.000 And she wrote on social media how much she hated middle America, saying it makes me miss California.

00:54:21.000 And she wrote what you just described, the ring, which is this.

00:54:25.000 There will be this ring of blue.

00:54:29.000 You know what?

00:54:30.000 Let me pull up this. 0.64

00:54:31.000 I'm going to pull up the Jesus land and what is it?

00:54:36.000 Canadian states meme.

00:54:37.000 You ever see that one?

00:54:38.000 Yes.

00:54:39.000 So I guess Canada would be the ring of blue to the north.

00:54:42.000 And Mexico to the south.

00:54:42.000 Yeah.

00:54:44.000 And then the ocean, obviously, which is blue.

00:54:46.000 Here you go.

00:54:48.000 This is what the meme basically is.

00:54:51.000 So, this is the proposed fracturing, or actually one of them, the Jesus Land Map.

00:54:58.000 It's an internet meme.

00:55:00.000 It was created in 2004.

00:55:02.000 So, it's not necessarily accurate right now because there would be a small cluster down here.

00:55:07.000 They'd probably take these states.

00:55:08.000 And we would take Alberta now, based on the.

00:55:10.000 Yeah, right, right.

00:55:12.000 So, again, this is 20 years old, but the idea was there was discussion in 2004.

00:55:17.000 Of breaking away of the United States fracturing and several states joining Canada.

00:55:24.000 She's talking about that.

00:55:26.000 She deleted those tweets because this is what these communists do. 0.99

00:55:29.000 She wants to win political power in Michigan. 1.00

00:55:32.000 She has to pretend to like Michigan. 0.99

00:55:35.000 She's the moderate in this race, too.

00:55:36.000 That's the other thing.

00:55:37.000 She's the moderate. 0.97

00:55:38.000 She's the most moderate person in this race.

00:55:40.000 Because the other guy, Abdul El Said, was the guy who said he didn't even want to, I think, celebrate the killing of Hassan Israllah or the Ayatollah, rather.

00:55:51.000 Or he didn't want to comment it because he didn't want to upset his Arab Muslim basin.

00:55:53.000 Was he the guy who campaigned with Hassan?

00:55:55.000 Yes, that guy.

00:55:57.000 She purged her ex account of roughly 6,000 posts, including all of her tweets prior to 2020.

00:56:04.000 Andrew Kaczynski noted this came after the post's April 2025 scoop on her tweet history.

00:56:10.000 The deleted posts include jabs at the Purple State.

00:56:12.000 She's now running to represent, saying, And it's snowing. 0.97

00:56:14.000 Screw you, Michigan.

00:56:15.000 You know, that really bums me out because I love snow and I like snowboarding and skiing, but where we are, it only snows every so often. 0.93

00:56:23.000 And here she is coming from a warm place, moving to a cold place, and she hates it.

00:56:28.000 There are days like these that make me miss California even more, she said in 2017.

00:56:33.000 I had a dream that the U.S. amicably broke off into the ring.

00:56:36.000 Coasts, Canada, Mexico, plus parts of Michigan and Texas, and Middle America.

00:56:40.000 She wrote in the since deleted tweet.

00:56:42.000 She's just lib posting.

00:56:43.000 She said, amicably at least, but come on, that can't, you know, you don't have, there's no such thing as a peace.

00:56:48.000 Why is it linking to a gone tweet?

00:56:49.000 We learned that in the 1850s.

00:56:51.000 Indeed.

00:56:52.000 In the 1940s.

00:56:53.000 You know, I. I'd actually respect her tremendously if she just said all these things and left the tweets up.

00:56:58.000 Totally.

00:56:59.000 But it's exactly right. 0.76

00:57:00.000 She's running as the moderate.

00:57:02.000 So she's got to delete them because that's her lane, right? 0.71

00:57:05.000 I wouldn't say anything ridiculous.

00:57:06.000 I think the other thing that came out of this story is a lot of those tweets she deleted talked about her participating in the 2016 DIMM primary out in California when she supposedly was already living and registered in Michigan.

00:57:20.000 So potential election fraud that she participated in as well.

00:57:23.000 You know, I'd have a lot more respect for Graham Platner if, like, When they came out and said, Hey, by the way, there's a Nazi tattoo on your chest.

00:57:31.000 If you went, Yeah, I'd be like, Okay, you know, all right. 0.56

00:57:35.000 Instead, he's like, Is that what that is?

00:57:38.000 And they were like, Yes.

00:57:38.000 He's like, I had no idea.

00:57:41.000 Legit, I'm not even joking.

00:57:43.000 When they called out Democrat frontrunner for the Senate in Maine, Graham Plattner's literal totem conf on his chest, he went, Is that what that is?

00:57:53.000 I just thought it was a skull.

00:57:55.000 Beats me.

00:57:57.000 That is nuts. 1.00

00:57:58.000 And this is why Fetterman's probably like one of the more honest people we've had right now where he was saying today, dude's just an asshole. 1.00

00:58:06.000 Plattner's just a straight up asshole because he's not truthful about anything. 1.00

00:58:11.000 And what did he blame it on? 1.00

00:58:12.000 The tattoo ultimately was like his unit's insignia or something.

00:58:16.000 It was popular amongst the army or something.

00:58:18.000 Everybody got weird tattoos and you got drugs.

00:58:21.000 It was cool.

00:58:22.000 So I got a question about that though.

00:58:23.000 Like, what tattoo parlor did you go to where they had a Totemcon available for choice?

00:58:27.000 Those might exist.

00:58:28.000 I don't know.

00:58:29.000 I've read reporting that his staff actually confronted him about it and they were clear that he knew what it was.

00:58:34.000 Like, he calls himself a World War II history buff.

00:58:36.000 Like, it's hard to pretend you don't know what that is when you say, you know, you know, a lot about World War II.

00:58:41.000 I have a question. 0.93

00:58:43.000 Neo Nazis and white supremacists prefer racial segregation. 0.98

00:58:46.000 That's correct, right? 0.93

00:58:47.000 I'm not wrong in that assumption. 0.95

00:58:49.000 They would prefer it if in this country they separated the races and white people would live with white people and black with black people, right? 0.54

00:58:57.000 I think that's largely true among white nationalists. 0.90

00:59:00.000 White supremacists, they're going to add the fact that they think they're better than everybody, but that's a separate thing.

00:59:05.000 Which political party advocates for policies based on race?

00:59:09.000 Maybe the Democratic Party.

00:59:11.000 The Democrat Party. 0.76

00:59:12.000 Republicans are fighting these things.

00:59:12.000 Not the Republicans.

00:59:14.000 Which political party advocates for Political districts based on race.

00:59:18.000 It's the Democrats' party.

00:59:19.000 The Democratic Party, indeed.

00:59:21.000 Which political party has created POC and non POC only spaces?

00:59:25.000 It's the Democratic Party.

00:59:27.000 So, real quick, and which political party hates Israel? 0.96

00:59:32.000 Well, and which party now has elected mayors in some of the largest cities in America saying we will only hire, we will only contract with non white businesses, right? 0.97

00:59:43.000 Choosing winners and losers based on their race. 0.87

00:59:45.000 That I would argue that Nazis would probably not be not okay with, but I would just say.

00:59:50.000 If you were a Nazi looking at the list of everything you wanted, you'd be like, well, we might lose a couple of things in the cities we don't want to be in. 0.59

00:59:57.000 But man, if those cities are saying they're only going to hire black people and all the black people move there and leave where we are, my point is when I see Graham Plattner with a Nazi tattoo, I'm like, he's just a Nazi who realized that to get through most of what a Nazi would want, the Democratic Party is your path forward. 0.97

01:00:17.000 He hates the Jews, he hates Israel, and he wants racial segregation. 0.98

01:00:22.000 I mean, Does he hate the Jews? 0.98

01:00:23.000 Did he say something bad about Jews?

01:00:25.000 Or is it just.

01:00:26.000 Well, he has heavily criticized Israel, which is always allowed, not necessarily a Jew thing. 0.75

01:00:26.000 I'm saying. 0.75

01:00:31.000 I'm just being somewhat facetious.

01:00:34.000 He's also got some crazy Reddit posts back in the day about Hamas wiping out Israel and stuff like that. 0.98

01:00:39.000 My point is if you are a Nazi who hates the Jews and hates Israel, the Democratic Party is for you. 0.69

01:00:45.000 I think it's transparent, like the double standard, though, because you saw everybody in the media trash aggressively Secretary of War Pete Hegseth for his I think it's an Iron Krause tattoo that, you know. 0.97

01:00:56.000 It made the rounds in the media.

01:00:58.000 Everybody called it a white supremacist tattoo.

01:01:01.000 It's a Jerusalem cross, which is like an old crusader. 0.84

01:01:03.000 That was the connection. 0.88

01:01:04.000 But yeah, no.

01:01:05.000 Yeah, there were many outlets explicitly saying that it might signify that he's a white supremacist.

01:01:10.000 I'm reading from Politico that it's associated with white supremacist groups, as opposed to articles talking about Plantner's tattoo that says how he expresses regret and it could potentially resemble a Nazi tattoo.

01:01:20.000 So they give him like this plausible deniability that they would never afford to Secretary Hegseth, despite Secretary Hegseth's tattoo not being any.

01:01:28.000 Anything resembling a white supremacist symbol, but this guy has a literal totem conf on his chest.

01:01:34.000 And he's been there for like a very long time.

01:01:36.000 Yo, he had it for 20 years, didn't he?

01:01:38.000 The thing about Democrat policies is about race policies, race based policies.

01:01:42.000 If you live in a society with 78% black people of a certain culture that votes that way, they'll say, Look, we're not doing anything by race.

01:01:49.000 It's all by majority. 0.89

01:01:51.000 And you're like, Oh, well, the majority happens to be one race and they're dominating the political sphere through majority rule. 0.99

01:01:58.000 So now we need to make exceptions for all these minorities that are getting dogged and trashed in culture and society. 0.99

01:02:03.000 So that's where the Democratic philosophy comes from you need to make sure people don't. 0.99

01:02:07.000 I got to read to this story.

01:02:09.000 I'm sorry.

01:02:10.000 So here's the origin of his Tottencom.

01:02:13.000 He was in his 20s on leaving Croatia, specifically Split, during his third deployment.

01:02:18.000 He and fellow Marines got very inebriated and decided to get tattoos.

01:02:21.000 They picked a terrifying looking skull and crossbones design off the wall at a tattoo parlor, seeing it as generic military pirate edgy imagery, common in military culture for scary tattoos.

01:02:33.000 I just want to stress these guys walked into a tattoo parlor with a giant Nazi Totenkampf on the wall that is available for public display. 0.53

01:02:45.000 In Croatia.

01:02:46.000 I have to wonder about what they were thinking when they entered that tattoo parlor and what the, let's just say, the business individuals, what were they wearing and what did they look like and what else was on the wall?

01:02:58.000 What was it called?

01:03:00.000 I gotta wonder if you're gonna put a Totenkampf on your wall, if there are not perhaps any other symbols, perhaps maybe an old Buddhist symbol that was ripped over.

01:03:09.000 It's an old Prussian military symbol that the Nazis co opted, just like the swastika. 0.78

01:03:13.000 It was the old bastard symbol of stuff that they co opted. 0.95

01:03:16.000 Interesting. 0.99

01:03:17.000 Okay, at the very least, it demonstrates poor judgment.

01:03:21.000 Assuming, like, you know, give him every benefit of the doubt, I think this demonstrates his poor judgment.

01:03:27.000 And maybe it's not the judgment and, you know, thought process that somebody who would potentially be a senator should have.

01:03:33.000 Like, if you are getting something permanently tattooed on your body, you should understand or know what the symbol is or do some due diligence before doing that.

01:03:42.000 I don't know if it's too much to ask for. 0.97

01:03:43.000 And again, I think he's playing dumb. 0.98

01:03:44.000 I think he knew. 0.99

01:03:45.000 Hold on.

01:03:46.000 I just looked this up.

01:03:47.000 Because I could be wrong, but my understanding was that in most of Europe, Nazi imagery is actually a crime. 0.55

01:03:53.000 And it is.

01:03:54.000 In Croatia, it is illegal to display Nazi imagery.

01:03:57.000 We went to a tattoo.

01:03:57.000 So, again, he went into a tattoo parlor with a Totenkampf on the wall.

01:04:02.000 I don't believe him for a second. 0.96

01:04:04.000 I think the guy's just a Nazi.

01:04:05.000 Yeah, I don't think like Jared Holt or anybody at the ADL would have thought twice if, you know, one of the people who they were tracking as a white supremacist had this type of tattoo on them.

01:04:17.000 I just think it's odd that people like Holt aren't all over this guy.

01:04:20.000 Well, look at the other interesting thing I was going to say was when he did his little sit down confessional, like the sort of like O'Donnell when she ran for Senate a few years ago, I'm not a witch.

01:04:29.000 He did the whole, I'm sorry for this.

01:04:31.000 And he said, Well, now I will pay to remove it.

01:04:33.000 Dude, if he had bad judgment 20 years ago, there was a long time in between there where he could have said, Oh, shoot, I learned about this symbol.

01:04:41.000 Wow, this is really troubling.

01:04:42.000 I should get this removed from my chest.

01:04:44.000 Doesn't seem like something you just keep putting off.

01:04:46.000 Well, you know what the difference was?

01:04:48.000 He decided he wants to be a politician, a U.S. Senator.

01:04:50.000 That's why he decided to get it covered.

01:04:52.000 It was since the 90s.

01:04:54.000 The Nazi imagery has been banned and they've had sporadic heavy enforcement.

01:04:58.000 In 2004, they ordered the removal of plaques honoring Nazi era figures.

01:05:04.000 I just don't believe this guy for a second.

01:05:06.000 The story is either he intentionally sought out a Nazi tattoo or he intentionally sought out a Nazi tattoo parlor and then got a Nazi tattoo.

01:05:14.000 Well, he was, I don't know how old he is now, 40 something.

01:05:17.000 He was in his 20s.

01:05:18.000 He was hammered with his buddies.

01:05:19.000 Was he in the military on leave?

01:05:20.000 Was he in the military?

01:05:21.000 So they're all amped up.

01:05:22.000 They go, probably blacked out.

01:05:24.000 I'd never heard of a Totenkampf till tonight.

01:05:26.000 This is the first time I've ever heard the word said out loud.

01:05:28.000 And I've never, I think I've seen that before.

01:05:30.000 I had no idea it was a Nazi thing until tonight.

01:05:33.000 Well, the other thing here, just to note, I mean, I know he's doing this like faux working class hero shtick right now, but Platner comes from an incredibly wealthy, socially elite family in New York in the Northeast.

01:05:46.000 He went to Hotchkiss, one of the premier boarding schools in America.

01:05:50.000 The idea that he was somehow ignorant about the significance or the symbolism, or like, I don't know, I just picked like a Pirates of the Caribbean looking tattoo for my chest, man.

01:06:01.000 I don't believe it because, again, came from an incredibly sophisticated, educated, Wealthy Northeast family. 0.71

01:06:07.000 And so I think it's a shtick.

01:06:10.000 I paid extra to have it put on.

01:06:10.000 I think it's a shtick.

01:06:12.000 If he didn't know, like, that's a judge of his mental faculties.

01:06:16.000 Like, dude, you do diligence on the big thing on your chest so you know what it is. 0.98

01:06:21.000 Like, he's either a Nazi or developmentally disabled. 0.95

01:06:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:27.000 Either way, I would argue you shouldn't vote for him. 0.99

01:06:31.000 Well, but Janet Mills has dropped out of the race. 0.99

01:06:33.000 Dropped. 1.00

01:06:33.000 And so a lot of boomer. 1.00

01:06:36.000 Liberal Portland voters will be happily voting for the dude with the giant Nazi tattoo.

01:06:40.000 You know what?

01:06:42.000 I think we should go to Maine. 0.60

01:06:44.000 Yeah, but I got friends who live in Portland and I'm going to ask them if they're voting for the Nazi guy.

01:06:48.000 Yeah, but so many Republicans hate Susan Collins and just call her a rhino POS.

01:06:52.000 So, like, I could see why this guy has a good chance of winning.

01:06:55.000 No, no, no, I know.

01:06:56.000 I just want to hear it from the voters there, be like, for 20 years, he had a Nazi tattoo on his chest.

01:07:01.000 Do you forgive him? 0.76

01:07:02.000 They'll say yes.

01:07:03.000 I'll be like, okay.

01:07:04.000 Do you forget?

01:07:05.000 So, if, like, there was a guy, I mean, they forget, what was that?

01:07:09.000 Hillary Clinton's friend who was in Congress, the Nazi, was his name?

01:07:12.000 Bird?

01:07:14.000 Robert Bird.

01:07:15.000 Yeah, he was like a grand wizard. 0.69

01:07:16.000 Grand wizard in the KKK. 0.79

01:07:17.000 Look, I'll say this. 1.00

01:07:19.000 The only real, you know, I guess, retardant in my view on this one is that people are allowed to say, I'm sorry. 1.00

01:07:28.000 Graham Platner is like, I, he has a mistake. 0.99

01:07:30.000 I'm sorry.

01:07:31.000 It's like, okay.

01:07:31.000 I don't believe him, but if people are like, I don't want to be associated with that thing and they say they don't, then I don't know if we can exist as a society that holds everyone to the standard of themselves for 20 years ago.

01:07:43.000 Yeah, really.

01:07:44.000 And, And you could wear Nazi paraphernalia and not be a Nazi.

01:07:47.000 It used to be punk rock.

01:07:49.000 Are you talking about Prince Harry again?

01:07:51.000 Is it Harry Goes the Distance?

01:07:52.000 Yeah, I mean, that is literally the values of punk rock is where the most countercultural imagery is.

01:07:58.000 But the opposite of that is, yo, if you're going to project an image, you better know what that's going to do to other people when they see it and get behind it because you're doing it.

01:08:06.000 I think it also just gets back to how Tim started this discussion, which is like, then just own it, dude.

01:08:10.000 Just be like, yeah, I made a mistake.

01:08:13.000 I learned what this is.

01:08:14.000 I do have this.

01:08:15.000 But that's not owning it.

01:08:16.000 If he came out and was like, yeah, totally.

01:08:19.000 I was super into it.

01:08:20.000 And I'm going to get it removed.

01:08:21.000 I'm in a different life, period of my life now.

01:08:23.000 Yep.

01:08:23.000 I reject that.

01:08:24.000 Then I'd be like, okay.

01:08:25.000 Like, literally, we would not be talking about it.

01:08:27.000 If he came out and said, I am getting it removed.

01:08:29.000 And, you know, when I was younger, I thought it was cool and I was into it, but I grew up.

01:08:33.000 Then I think Democrats still wouldn't care.

01:08:36.000 And he'd at least get a little bit of respect from me being like, okay, well, you know, he owned up to it.

01:08:39.000 He probably also should have done that before he started running.

01:08:42.000 He announced and did it after he started running.

01:08:44.000 That was my point when he started running.

01:08:46.000 There was not a number of years. 0.59

01:08:48.000 If you know you're going to run for something, you could do some things to prepare, like, for example, cover up your Nazi tattoo.

01:08:53.000 So the moment that your tweets before you're about to run for the Senate, the moment the picture drops, then you could say, oh, you know what?

01:08:58.000 I got that removed five years ago.

01:08:59.000 Yeah, yep. 0.74

01:09:01.000 But I will say, I don't want to do too much pearl clutching over this because I don't think people want to hear Jewish people complain about the Totten Kampf symbol on this guy, despite it being there.

01:09:10.000 I mean, I got to be honest.

01:09:11.000 Like, if he came out and said, listen, I don't like his politics. 0.84

01:09:16.000 If he came out and they were like, you have a Nazi tattoo, and he goes, you're damn right, I do. 0.99

01:09:20.000 I'd be like, damn. 0.99

01:09:20.000 Next question. 0.99

01:09:22.000 All right.

01:09:23.000 That's infinitely more respectable. 0.91

01:09:25.000 The Nazis. 0.96

01:09:25.000 Just own up to it. 0.96

01:09:27.000 I'd like to see him go deep on the Prussian ancestry of the history of the tattoo.

01:09:27.000 Yeah.

01:09:30.000 Did he get it removed?

01:09:32.000 I believe he got covered.

01:09:32.000 Well, he says he did.

01:09:34.000 Let's jump to this next story.

01:09:34.000 We've got a tweet from U.S. Attorney Pirro.

01:09:37.000 They have released footage, the actual footage from the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

01:09:43.000 In it, you can actually see a dude fire a buckshot at a Secret Service agent.

01:09:49.000 And I would say it's not particularly clear, but it's clear enough to understand what you're seeing.

01:09:54.000 So, this is footage first showing the suspect, Cole Allen, they describe as casing the hotel.

01:10:02.000 And, you know, I watched this video and.

01:10:08.000 It's the same thing I bring up all the time. 1.00

01:10:09.000 When I was younger, you see videos like this and you wonder why it is these people are so stupid. 1.00

01:10:14.000 And then you think, well, if they were smart, they wouldn't have tried to stage an assassination in the first place. 1.00

01:10:19.000 They'd just be rich and funding super PACs.

01:10:22.000 But you can't accuse this guy of being smart.

01:10:24.000 So you can see him, you know, walking around.

01:10:26.000 And then we have the footage that we've already seen, but it's a little bit clearer.

01:10:29.000 So here's him casing the joint again.

01:10:31.000 And then we have, let's jump forward to the surveillance video in question.

01:10:35.000 So this is Saturday and you can see it's 8 36.

01:10:38.000 Now, this is the footage that Trump tweeted that was low quality, and this is the higher res version.

01:10:43.000 And you can see everybody standing around.

01:10:45.000 You'll notice the dog is sniffing.

01:10:47.000 I think the dog smelled the weapons.

01:10:50.000 Yeah.

01:10:51.000 And they just like to do his thing.

01:10:53.000 And let me.

01:10:54.000 They're doing some maintenance on them.

01:10:56.000 Let me find the exact.

01:10:56.000 I think they're breaking down security.

01:10:58.000 So here's him running in.

01:10:59.000 He runs in full speed.

01:11:01.000 And then you can see right here, there's a frame.

01:11:04.000 He aims the shotgun at this agent who takes some buckshot.

01:11:09.000 Oh, my God.

01:11:09.000 Apparently, he was not hurt in the least bit.

01:11:11.000 Oh.

01:11:12.000 That's close range buckshot.

01:11:12.000 Which is surprising.

01:11:14.000 He fires several shots at him.

01:11:14.000 Yeah.

01:11:16.000 I think he fires four.

01:11:18.000 And they draw, but they don't open fire, apparently.

01:11:21.000 Or do they?

01:11:22.000 And then they play it again at slow speed. 1.00

01:11:24.000 Kellen brought these three female cops up against the wall. 1.00

01:11:27.000 Watch what they do when he runs. 1.00

01:11:29.000 The lady cops, huh? 1.00

01:11:30.000 Middle one, unfortunately, seems to trip over her own foot. 0.99

01:11:33.000 You can see him fire here. 0.61

01:11:33.000 Watch him fire. 0.61

01:11:35.000 Bang.

01:11:36.000 Dang, dude.

01:11:37.000 I want audio.

01:11:38.000 Do they have audio?

01:11:40.000 I haven't seen one with audio yet.

01:11:40.000 No.

01:11:42.000 Super dangerous for Crossfire there.

01:11:44.000 I don't even want to make life.

01:11:46.000 This is the first thing I thought is, how did he not hit them?

01:11:49.000 Right, or the Crossfire's extreme. 0.99

01:11:51.000 Those three ladies, but yeah. 1.00

01:11:52.000 Yeah, when you were just grazed in the shed. 1.00

01:11:54.000 Oh, man.

01:11:54.000 These look like TSA.

01:11:55.000 I don't think they're TSA.

01:11:56.000 Maybe they're not cops.

01:11:57.000 Maybe that's why they freak out.

01:11:58.000 Well, I mean, TSA is law enforcement.

01:12:01.000 Yeah, TSA.

01:12:01.000 It's TSA.

01:12:02.000 It fell over.

01:12:04.000 I got to be honest.

01:12:05.000 I don't expect TSA to go, like administrative TSA agents, to go chasing after a guy, especially when you got Secret Service and decked out dudes.

01:12:13.000 Yeah, you want to be away behind the guys that are pointing the guns.

01:12:16.000 Downrange.

01:12:18.000 Yeah, there is no audio.

01:12:20.000 But he fires, he hits, geez.

01:12:23.000 I mean, death penalty.

01:12:24.000 Is that not death penalty? 0.92

01:12:25.000 You open fire on a cop? 0.82

01:12:26.000 Is that not death penalty? 0.94

01:12:27.000 Just there it goes?

01:12:29.000 I don't think so.

01:12:30.000 I don't think so.

01:12:30.000 I think he's looking at life.

01:12:32.000 A combination of the charges would be life in prison probably several times over.

01:12:36.000 But I don't, death penalty is usually an egregious crime.

01:12:40.000 Like shooting a cop is not, I think it's just a crime.

01:12:42.000 No, murder is not, does not warrant the death penalty.

01:12:44.000 It's usually like you killed him in a grotesque and horrifying way.

01:12:48.000 I mean, yeah, I think one of the questions here will be what jurisdiction do they bring these charges in?

01:12:54.000 It's federal.

01:12:54.000 Oh, it's D.C.

01:12:55.000 I mean, that's it.

01:12:56.000 It'll be.

01:12:57.000 He's cooked.

01:12:59.000 He's going away for a long time.

01:13:01.000 Now, what happened?

01:13:02.000 He got to the.

01:13:02.000 So, talk me through the rest of this.

01:13:03.000 He ran to the top of a flight of steps that he was trying to get down to get to the ballroom, and they shot him when he was at the top of the steps.

01:13:10.000 I don't think he got shot.

01:13:11.000 He got tackled.

01:13:12.000 How would they not shoot a guy with a shotgun?

01:13:14.000 Well, I'm going to say this. 0.96

01:13:16.000 Okay.

01:13:16.000 So, Homeboy runs full speed, right?

01:13:20.000 Darting through, and I'm just like, he's real stupid. 1.00

01:13:25.000 He's real, real stupid. 1.00

01:13:26.000 He runs through the door first. 1.00

01:13:28.000 Yeah, what was he?

01:13:29.000 Caltech engineer, and his plan was just to run.

01:13:32.000 I think he was going to be the area where they were. 1.00

01:13:34.000 Well, I will say this running past Secret Service does not necessarily mean he's dumb, but considering the layout of the building and everything that's been put forward, like, this guy is very stupid. 1.00

01:13:45.000 I think taking an immediate shot means he's dumb. 0.99

01:13:48.000 I'm also wondering why he didn't exercise at all and, like, he's apparently talked about how he wanted to do it. 0.99

01:13:54.000 It was his first chance.

01:13:55.000 It's like, brother, have you gone to, like, actually, I'm not going to say anything which could actually aid someone.

01:14:01.000 I'm just going to say, He prepped nothing.

01:14:03.000 Yeah.

01:14:04.000 But of course, anybody smart enough and willing to do preparation would probably just open a bakery and become rich.

01:14:08.000 Yeah.

01:14:09.000 Or if you're really going to do an assassination attempt, you wouldn't know they did it.

01:14:12.000 Like the really good ones, you don't know they did it.

01:14:13.000 I'm going to tell you guys a secret.

01:14:16.000 There's a bakery my friend worked at, and they were doing like 100, 200 grand in sales per day. 0.99

01:14:23.000 You want, like, that's why I look at all this stuff and I'm like, it takes a real stupid person to do something like this. 0.99

01:14:29.000 Because if you really wanted to be rich and you were smart, You'd sell cupcakes. 1.00

01:14:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:34.000 But you can make even, this is a little bit of a side, but you can make smart people stupid by making them scared too. 0.99

01:14:39.000 What were you going to say? 0.99

01:14:40.000 I'm thankfully stupid because it's very scary what a smart, motivated person can do. 1.00

01:14:47.000 A smart, motivated assassin, that is. 1.00

01:14:49.000 But no, no, no.

01:14:50.000 As history demonstrates.

01:14:51.000 Oxymoronic.

01:14:52.000 So obviously it exists.

01:14:55.000 My point is most people who are smart will not find themselves as assassins.

01:15:00.000 Sure, hopefully.

01:15:01.000 The payout that hitmen get actually is not worth it. 0.95

01:15:04.000 So, if you ever watch these sting operation shows where they'll have a fat hitman and the wife comes in and she's like, I want to kill my husband.

01:15:12.000 And he's like, How much you got?

01:15:13.000 And she goes, 10 grand.

01:15:14.000 And he goes, Okay.

01:15:15.000 Yeah, but I think the past few years have demonstrated that a motivated individual who wants to commit a political assassination, whether it be Trump at the Butler rally, Charlie Kirk, or Shinzo Abe. 0.94

01:15:28.000 Yeah, Shinzo Abe was crazy.

01:15:29.000 These happened regularly. 0.94

01:15:31.000 These assassins happened regularly.

01:15:32.000 And I mean, it didn't take much besides one motivated.

01:15:36.000 Individual.

01:15:36.000 A lot of these didn't have large conspiracies to them, as far as we know.

01:15:40.000 What about Assassin's Creed?

01:15:42.000 In the game, you have a wristband that, and for no reason, I love the game lore, you cut your index, your ring finger off so that you can make a fist and the blade can go through where your ring is.

01:15:53.000 It makes no sense, but the point is, you have a concealed blade.

01:15:56.000 It's just, life is so precious and it's really so easy to kill people, and there are a lot of.

01:16:01.000 I don't want to sound sketch, it's just that life is so fragile and people have a lot of contact with a lot of people just below the president.

01:16:10.000 And it's easy to have relative access to them.

01:16:13.000 Especially when so much of the security around the president is just performative.

01:16:17.000 I mean, you see all these guys, and not a single one of them saw him running down the hallway until he was already upon them, making his way through.

01:16:23.000 Totally.

01:16:24.000 And the shooter at Butler was just some kid allegedly acting alone, and he would manage to get onto a roof that was unsecure.

01:16:30.000 And another example where.

01:16:30.000 Right.

01:16:32.000 Yeah, well, I don't buy all that.

01:16:33.000 You'd assume the only thing that they would do, if anything, would be to secure the perimeter, and they didn't even do that.

01:16:38.000 To be fair, as you hear this narrative, like security was really bad, that's just not true.

01:16:44.000 The guy got nowhere near the room.

01:16:45.000 I think he wasn't even on the correct floor.

01:16:47.000 He wasn't.

01:16:48.000 He had to go to the other room.

01:16:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:51.000 I think part of it is the accumulation of weapons beforehand, the checking of the hotel room, and then also casing the joint.

01:17:00.000 None of that raised any suspicions with the hotel security, Metro Police, or the Secret Service.

01:17:05.000 So I think the example of, okay, maybe not a guy shooting buckshot, but what if he brought in some kind of ordinance, some kind of explosive device?

01:17:13.000 Into the facility.

01:17:15.000 There's a lot of things that I can say that I'm not going to because I don't want anyone to.

01:17:19.000 Right.

01:17:19.000 But let me just say this.

01:17:22.000 We will not see dark arts on television.

01:17:24.000 He did not train nor have any plan for what the security in the place would do. 0.52

01:17:31.000 Yeah.

01:17:32.000 I can right now, at the top of my head, say three things that would have got him into the ballroom.

01:17:38.000 I'm not going to, but I think a lot of people who have any kind of combat training, any military, are going to be going, oh, yeah.

01:17:44.000 Yeah.

01:17:45.000 Simple, simple things.

01:17:46.000 You don't want to say them.

01:17:47.000 That's why I think Trump's on the side of the deep state because there's none of that military tribe.

01:17:51.000 I mean, he has the deep state.

01:17:52.000 Yeah.

01:17:52.000 I feel like he is now with the deep state.

01:17:55.000 No, no, no.

01:17:55.000 Not with them.

01:17:56.000 He took it over.

01:17:57.000 No, he has taken the deep state. 0.95

01:17:58.000 Yeah, because I haven't seen these like any garbage, like real, real attempts. 0.93

01:18:03.000 It's like dudes that are like pissed off by the media. 0.50

01:18:05.000 It seems like.

01:18:06.000 No, again, Ian, I got to stress this.

01:18:07.000 I don't know.

01:18:08.000 The math is actually really simple.

01:18:08.000 I don't know.

01:18:10.000 People who hate Donald Trump and are very smart just get rich and then fund their way to alter the machine.

01:18:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:17.000 They bought Trump coin and then they sold it when it went up to 80 bucks.

01:18:20.000 I'm saying the people who hate Donald Trump don't buy Trump coin.

01:18:23.000 They invest in Google.

01:18:27.000 They make a billion dollars, go to fundraisers, and then pay NGOs and work with the Soros group because funding DAs across the country is infinitely more successful for their cause.

01:18:38.000 I think we are in an era of political assassinations.

01:18:42.000 I think the rhetoric online is only incentivizing and encouraging people to get more crazy. 0.98

01:18:47.000 Society is set up in such a way that people are becoming more mentally ill.

01:18:51.000 It's being encouraged and normalized.

01:18:53.000 You see half the assassins online who've committed these acts are praised or at least not condemned in large part online.

01:18:59.000 People feel as though they have no contribution to the political process.

01:19:03.000 So how are you going to contribute?

01:19:04.000 How are you going to make the difference that you see fit?

01:19:07.000 And you feel justified and have been told you are justified in feeling online and by all of your peers.

01:19:11.000 How are you going to get this out?

01:19:12.000 Your vote doesn't matter, is what you're being told online, and there's nothing you could do to affect change.

01:19:17.000 But guess what?

01:19:17.000 You know, you see other political assassinations happen, and you say, aha, I could make this difference.

01:19:24.000 I could stop Hitler. 0.58

01:19:25.000 I could stop fascism in my country.

01:19:27.000 And that's what a lot of these people are thinking.

01:19:28.000 A better way to stop Hitler is to treat it like you're back in time right now, and you can change people's minds within a video. 0.77

01:19:34.000 I think the rhetoric and incentive structure that we've set up. 0.92

01:19:37.000 Let me say that.

01:19:38.000 If what you're saying is true, which it might be that we're in an era now of this kind of thing, that makes me concerned.

01:19:42.000 Because, like you were saying, how did this guy get all the way through here casing the joints?

01:19:45.000 There's been three attempts on the president in the past.

01:19:47.000 This is like a technocratic argument.

01:19:48.000 They're going to say, we need security.

01:19:49.000 We need more security.

01:19:51.000 We need to spy.

01:19:52.000 We need to get people's DNA.

01:19:53.000 We need to know where you are, when you are.

01:19:55.000 We need to know everyone so that this cannot happen.

01:19:57.000 That's going to be a lot of the argument coming up in this era.

01:20:00.000 Well, I mean, I think two things can be true, right?

01:20:03.000 Like, it can be the case that political assassinations are on the rise, and that may be what it takes.

01:20:08.000 I mean, we'd have the conversation around.

01:20:09.000 What it means for that type of surveillance and FISA surveillance to exist and would it even be effective?

01:20:15.000 But I think it's pretty clear that we're seeing people feel emboldened to take this into their own hands.

01:20:20.000 There's other examples of attacks on members of Congress.

01:20:23.000 The federal court judge in New Jersey who was shot.

01:20:26.000 This stuff is regularly happening in Minneapolis or somewhere in Minnesota.

01:20:29.000 There were a couple of council members outside of an Israeli embassy.

01:20:32.000 There was a couple of staffers that were shot.

01:20:35.000 Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, had a few attacks on him.

01:20:40.000 These are the only ones that I could think of off the top of my head, but people.

01:20:43.000 Aren't widely condemning this, and people do genuinely believe that the ends justify the means in our political system.

01:20:48.000 The more disenfranchised that people feel, the more gerrymandered that districts get, and the less competitive any of these elections are, people will feel more and more disenfranchised.

01:20:57.000 And their outlet for that may be violence, unfortunately.

01:21:00.000 And I think that the incentive structure really and the support around it we're not condemning Luigi Mangione.

01:21:07.000 No, um, Tyler Robinson isn't almost even not being blamed, and Erica Kirk is being made out to be.

01:21:14.000 You know, the villain here. 0.62

01:21:16.000 Of course, any violence towards any Jew or Israeli or so called Zionist is justified by the alleged genocide that they're perpetrating. 1.00

01:21:23.000 Of course, any Trump supporter is fair game because they're racist, fascist supporters. 0.98

01:21:26.000 So, I think the rhetoric around this is dangerous. 0.93

01:21:29.000 Of course, we've seen attacks on ICE agents and the doxing of ICE agents.

01:21:33.000 I think people want to take it into their own hands, especially the rhetoric online from the left.

01:21:39.000 They feel totally justified in what they're doing.

01:21:41.000 Well, I mean, the Minneapolis church, the Don Lemon event, right?

01:21:45.000 I mean, what they said was it was necessary for us to go into this house of worship because those people needed to know that one of their auxiliary pastors was an ICE agent.

01:21:55.000 It doesn't matter if you're interfering with worship or.

01:21:58.000 You know, a religious service. 0.99

01:22:00.000 We felt so justified that we had to tell these people, you have a pastor who is evil and a Nazi. 0.96

01:22:06.000 Well, if they buy into the rhetoric that is being fed to them online and by elected officials, it's hard to blame somebody with a little bit of mental illness for taking this seriously. 0.75

01:22:16.000 If Trump really is Hitler, if ICE is really the Gestapo, then aren't you doing something good?

01:22:21.000 If Israel is really committing genocide and we're supporting Israel in committing that genocide, if you stop the people who are supporting it, Aren't you preventing genocide? 0.99

01:22:30.000 That's the sort of logical conclusions that a lot of dumb people being misled. 0.94

01:22:35.000 You know what I always thought was really funny is the. 0.99

01:22:37.000 And rationalize. 0.99

01:22:38.000 If you could go back in time and kill baby Hitler, would you do it? 1.00

01:22:40.000 No, I would help him. 1.00

01:22:41.000 I would make him a better human so he didn't go crazy like he did. 0.92

01:22:45.000 My point is like the conundrum you're presented with is kill a baby or let Hitler happen when it's like you could literally just move the baby to a different building and like it'll get adopted by a different family. 0.90

01:22:56.000 Butterfly, yeah, you could have that. 0.99

01:22:58.000 Race him as a Jew. 0.99

01:22:59.000 You could literally just take baby Hitler and then bring him to like North Sentinel Island where he'll grow up and just be firing bows and arrows with the North Sentinelese. 0.99

01:23:06.000 I wonder if you could ever. 0.97

01:23:07.000 To be fair, they probably eat it. 0.90

01:23:09.000 If you went back in time to Hitler and you're like, look, I'm going to teach you how to be a really good painter. 0.94

01:23:12.000 So this time you'll succeed. 0.87

01:23:13.000 Make him better at arts.

01:23:14.000 You end up just making him excited to paint and then the same thing happens.

01:23:18.000 Then what if he doesn't even want to paint anymore?

01:23:20.000 He's like, I've already done this now.

01:23:22.000 But hold on.

01:23:22.000 What if every.

01:23:23.000 What if every time you're like, Hitler, you've got to paint a new picture. 0.98

01:23:26.000 Trust me, it's going to work. 0.80

01:23:27.000 He's like, but I don't want to paint a picture. 1.00

01:23:28.000 I want to kill some Jews. 1.00

01:23:30.000 And you're like, stop it, Hitler, stop it! 1.00

01:23:31.000 Not this time! 0.65

01:23:32.000 Stop it!

01:23:32.000 Not this time!

01:23:33.000 I'm changing things.

01:23:34.000 It's just the bakery. 0.93

01:23:35.000 It's not the Jewish people themselves.

01:23:37.000 I don't know.

01:23:37.000 Was it just Hitler responsible for.

01:23:40.000 Only. 0.52

01:23:41.000 Yeah, literally nothing else happened either. 0.94

01:23:43.000 Zuli society put that guy in power on purpose. 0.98

01:23:43.000 I don't know. 0.98

01:23:46.000 That cultic mechanism had been flowing for 20 or 30 years.

01:23:50.000 It's like a counter communist movement. 0.50

01:23:51.000 I failed to believe that he was solely responsible for all of Nazism and Germany buying into. 0.55

01:23:57.000 He was put there. 0.73

01:23:58.000 He was chosen to be an order for that movement.

01:24:02.000 It was not an anti-communist, counter-communist, because it was like communist.

01:24:05.000 I'd like to bring this, I think, full circle to the gerrymandering, because I think that plays a role in this, because again, it gets more, as Tim was saying, more extremist lawmakers elected into office.

01:24:17.000 It incentivizes more extreme candidates because they only need to play ball in the primary and not the general.

01:24:22.000 And if their rhetoric is getting more extreme, people again have less of an outlet for their politics in these general elections.

01:24:28.000 I think you're kind of setting up a powder keg in many senses.

01:24:31.000 I thought the same thing earlier when you were talking about that.

01:24:33.000 I don't know how to give people their voice back.

01:24:35.000 Since Congress was hijacked by the Federal Reserve in 1913, like, obviously they're working for big business.

01:24:40.000 The little guy's been suffering under the boot, but they didn't know. 0.94

01:24:43.000 Totally screwed. 0.99

01:24:44.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:24:44.000 I mean, yeah, I think, well, that's one of the big problems, right? 0.97

01:24:48.000 Is like, there's no value to the money for working class people.

01:24:52.000 They have no access. 0.99

01:24:53.000 Even if they have a member of Congress who is ostensibly equal to their ideological preferences, the members of Congress are all owned by.

01:25:03.000 Big banks, by multinational corporations, by special interests.

01:25:06.000 Can I pivot and ask you, you were in Trump 45.

01:25:09.000 What do you think about Trump 47?

01:25:11.000 What do I think about 47?

01:25:14.000 I think there have been some really exciting things that they've accomplished.

01:25:17.000 I think for those folks who like to say, well, 47 is the corrective to 45.

01:25:23.000 We solved a lot of the personnel issues.

01:25:26.000 I don't know if that's exactly right.

01:25:28.000 I think there are some of the similar problems that we experienced in 45.

01:25:33.000 There are people who are not aligned with the core parts of what Trump originally ran on, which is rewiring trade to favor the interests of working class Americans, stopping the mass immigration that is destroying the continuity, the coherence of our culture.

01:25:50.000 And no foreign entanglements, no forever war.

01:25:54.000 So I think there are parts of 47 that are distinct and different.

01:25:59.000 I think he has moved out faster on some of the core issues that needed to be addressed.

01:26:06.000 But in other ways, I think you see some of the same personnel.

01:26:09.000 I know some people, there's been some fracturing of the party.

01:26:12.000 I don't know if I'm breaking any news for you here.

01:26:14.000 What do you think of the intra MAGA fights that we're seeing as a result of some of the president's policies?

01:26:21.000 I guess, particularly on the Iran war, but there's other things too.

01:26:24.000 Yeah, look, some of that's really difficult to disentangle from the nefarious influence of social media as a new way of not only just getting clicks, but monetizing.

01:26:37.000 So you mentioned the way that a grieving widow is now somehow twisted and reshaped as the villain of the story.

01:26:47.000 And there are plenty of people who have a direct incentive, a monetary incentive to do that.

01:26:54.000 So I think the.

01:26:58.000 The biggest voices in this discussion all have some very interesting incentives to part with the president.

01:27:05.000 Now, I think a few of the folks who have parted with the president most recently, it is on a question of conviction.

01:27:10.000 I think they vehemently disagree with the president's decision to go to war in Iran. 0.94

01:27:15.000 And I think as the situation plays out in the Strait of Hormuz and its cascading effect on the world economy, I think they feel like they are justified in that opposition.

01:27:23.000 So I think the question is now if President Trump were running for re election in 2028, would the coalition?

01:27:30.000 That secured his victory this last election 24, be there for him.

01:27:35.000 I don't know if that's as much of an interesting question because he wouldn't be able to run again.

01:27:38.000 No, I'm saying if he were running, right?

01:27:41.000 I think the more interesting question would be would JD Vance or Marco Rubio be able to inherit that coalition?

01:27:47.000 Do you think there's a choice for who would be preferable in a MAGA era parent situation?

01:27:53.000 Because the president won't be around forever, of course.

01:27:55.000 Yeah, I don't know if it's the.

01:27:57.000 I mean, I think obviously if JD Vance decides to run, I think most of the elements of this new fusion coalition.

01:28:06.000 The tech right, the populist core, they're probably going to get behind Vance.

01:28:12.000 But I think it's an open question whether the vice president runs.

01:28:15.000 And I will say it seems like Marco Rubio's staying power as the favorite son of the president is really without parallel.

01:28:26.000 No one has lasted.

01:28:27.000 Fascinating, Grant.

01:28:28.000 Yeah, no one has lasted this close to the son for this.

01:28:32.000 I mean, if you're thinking like French imperial politics, nobody has been this close to the king as a chief courtier for this long and succeeded.

01:28:40.000 And it's not like he's only, you know, it's not like he's just running like national parks.

01:28:43.000 He's got a pretty important portfolio of issues, and the president obviously favors him.

01:28:49.000 It thinks, you know, incredibly highly of the work that he's doing.

01:28:52.000 So I wouldn't count out Marco Rubio.

01:28:55.000 And Marco Rubio still has a lot of staying power with the old guard, the old Bush element of the Republican Party.

01:29:02.000 He's really come a long way.

01:29:04.000 I'm old enough to remember when he was Little Marco.

01:29:07.000 You guys remember Little Marco?

01:29:08.000 Little Marco.

01:29:09.000 And now he is National Security Advisor, Secretary of State.

01:29:12.000 Might be Mega Era Parent.

01:29:13.000 We thought he was a cheap neocon in 2012 when he was one of those eight, or against Obama.

01:29:17.000 I think he ran.

01:29:18.000 Did he run in 2008 as well?

01:29:19.000 Yeah, he ran in 2016.

01:29:21.000 He didn't run in 2012.

01:29:21.000 Yeah.

01:29:22.000 I always thought he was like a cheap warmonger.

01:29:23.000 In 2013, he was an architect of, well, he had joined on some controversial bipartisan bills, and then he ran in 2016.

01:29:32.000 But I think that there's a lot of daylight between that Marco and this Marco.

01:29:36.000 Let's grab this story from The Independent.

01:29:38.000 Mysterious earthquake swarm near Area 51 sparks conspiracy theories about secret testing.

01:29:45.000 The quakes range from 2.5 to 4.4 in magnitude.

01:29:48.000 And struck within miles of the mysterious Area 51 military base.

01:29:52.000 They say at least 17 earthquakes have been recorded in the past 24 hours.

01:29:59.000 That's crazy, right?

01:30:00.000 Testing, yeah.

01:30:01.000 Yeah, they must be testing something, right?

01:30:03.000 Sounds like.

01:30:03.000 Area 51, of course, the Nevada test site.

01:30:05.000 4.4 magnitude earthquake struck 2.5 miles below ground just after 3 p.m. on Wednesday, followed by over a dozen smaller quakes.

01:30:15.000 More than 100 people reported feeling the quakes.

01:30:18.000 Geophysicist and internet special, uh, internet personality Stephen Burns claimed in a video on X.

01:30:23.000 The 4.4 magnitude quake was in an unusual place to get an earthquake, adding that it's particularly shallow.

01:30:29.000 Conspiracy theorists have long speculated that aliens are out at the base.

01:30:32.000 So, this proves that the aliens are trying to escape and their ship is banging against the ground trying to get out of the underground base.

01:30:39.000 I think Scientologists predicted something like that.

01:30:41.000 Yeah.

01:30:42.000 L. Ron Hubbard, yeah, he wrote this all out.

01:30:44.000 Out of the volcano?

01:30:45.000 That's where they got to reroute to get out through the volcano.

01:30:45.000 Yeah.

01:30:49.000 No, that's just so wrong.

01:30:50.000 Okay. 0.97

01:30:51.000 Xenu dropped the aliens into the volcano, killing them. 0.78

01:30:54.000 Yeah. 0.84

01:30:55.000 And then the Thetans came out of the volcano and entered people's bodies. 0.92

01:30:58.000 Imagine we made fun of Islam the way we just feel so callously to make fun of science. 1.00

01:31:03.000 It's going to be really funny. 1.00

01:31:04.000 Don't even think twice about it right now.

01:31:07.000 It's going to be funny because Eli's sitting here and then one day he's going to die and he's going to find himself walking on a cloud, being like, Where am I?

01:31:13.000 He's going to walk up and there's going to be these pearly gates and you're going to be like, Can I come in there and be like, Scientology was the right one and you made fun of him.

01:31:20.000 And there's going to be like a bunch of aliens up there and like, Thetans or whatever those things are.

01:31:24.000 Did you just say you worked there?

01:31:26.000 In 2006, I was in LA.

01:31:28.000 The street from the Scientology Center, and I auditioned for a role of a married guy.

01:31:28.000 I lived right across.

01:31:33.000 Me and my girlfriend cast as a married couple.

01:31:35.000 And they're like, What do you mean you got killed?

01:31:37.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:31:37.000 What do you mean?

01:31:38.000 On Hollywood Boulevard or Hollywood Boulevard?

01:31:40.000 Yeah, Hollywood and Franklin.

01:31:41.000 They're across the street from Birds where we'd hang out.

01:31:43.000 You were cast like in a promotional material?

01:31:45.000 Yeah, promotional material to project the right to marriage, which is one of their tenets everyone, every human has a right to marriage.

01:31:51.000 And it was me and her, and we lied to the people and said, We're married.

01:31:54.000 And we weren't, which I thought was kind of like indicative of what that whole religion is, is fake.

01:31:59.000 It seemed to, it was like this whole thing.

01:32:00.000 You look like you could be a Scientologist too, though.

01:32:02.000 Easily.

01:32:02.000 They want to be bad, dude.

01:32:03.000 We would hang out.

01:32:05.000 I knew a lot of them.

01:32:06.000 Did they test your.

01:32:07.000 Yeah, I did the E meter.

01:32:08.000 I would walk around the.

01:32:09.000 What was your score?

01:32:10.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:32:11.000 Say more about the E meter.

01:32:13.000 What do they do?

01:32:13.000 It's like these metal rods, and then they tell you, like, your E.

01:32:17.000 I don't know if that's your chi.

01:32:18.000 I don't know what they were telling me, but they're like, yeah.

01:32:20.000 You ever go to the arcade and you hold onto the handles, and it, like, shocks you a little bit?

01:32:23.000 I think it's just like that, and it makes you feel a little shocking.

01:32:26.000 And then it, like, fake measures something.

01:32:28.000 Have them work out.

01:32:29.000 They tell you you you're not sufficient and you need to, like, I don't know, do it.

01:32:31.000 It might be measuring something.

01:32:33.000 But, like, they have workout tech where you can hold a metal bar and then stand on a scale and it'll tell you, like, your body mass index and all.

01:32:38.000 So it might have been measuring some frequency, but.

01:32:40.000 So I think this could work with impressionable people.

01:32:42.000 You're a bit impressionable, though.

01:32:44.000 Why didn't this work on you?

01:32:45.000 I'm super skeptical.

01:32:45.000 Why didn't it?

01:32:46.000 I don't get into earth religions anyway that much.

01:32:46.000 I don't know.

01:32:49.000 So I was just like, I don't even think of it really as a religion.

01:32:51.000 Not earthly religions.

01:32:52.000 It was more of like a club. 0.78

01:32:53.000 Hold on. 1.00

01:32:54.000 Earth religions. 0.97

01:32:54.000 Go back. 0.97

01:32:56.000 Instead, like, cosmic religions.

01:32:57.000 Yeah.

01:32:58.000 Scientology feels like a cosmic religion.

01:32:59.000 No, no, no.

01:33:00.000 Like, anything human ideas that were developed by humans.

01:33:02.000 I don't really put too much faith in human.

01:33:05.000 Ideologies that much as opposed to like what God really is probably real.

01:33:09.000 So, I'm not too adherent to a one way I got to think of it.

01:33:12.000 It's just, and I always thought it was more of like a bro, a guy's club, Scientology.

01:33:17.000 It didn't feel like a religion.

01:33:18.000 DC is a Scientologist.

01:33:20.000 It was like a fraternity.

01:33:21.000 Tom Cruise.

01:33:21.000 Yeah, Tom was in it.

01:33:22.000 He was like the most famous one at the time.

01:33:24.000 John Travolta.

01:33:24.000 Travolta got.

01:33:25.000 That's not a bad squad of people that made Smith was a Scientologist.

01:33:28.000 They'll tell you, like, they'll make you super famous if you join the fraternity, basically.

01:33:32.000 Then you pay them a bunch of money, and then they make, you hang out at the bar with them afterwards.

01:33:36.000 You all become friends.

01:33:37.000 Oh, they drink too.

01:33:38.000 They cast you in their movies.

01:33:39.000 I think that's the whole thing.

01:33:40.000 How do they feel about Jews?

01:33:41.000 I don't know if they drink.

01:33:42.000 I don't know if they drink. 0.95

01:33:43.000 I was just saying that I never drank with Scientologists or anything.

01:33:45.000 I don't know.

01:33:46.000 I only went there once or twice.

01:33:46.000 I didn't ask.

01:33:49.000 Or twice. 1.00

01:33:51.000 It's kind of like Jews. 1.00

01:33:52.000 I never thought they were a religion. 0.52

01:33:53.000 I just thought it was another type of Christianity growing up.

01:33:56.000 We're better than Jews.

01:33:56.000 I don't know.

01:33:57.000 I just said that because you're here.

01:33:58.000 But it was like I don't know much about religion, man.

01:33:58.000 Yeah, no.

01:34:00.000 I don't feel the same as me.

01:34:02.000 Don't be so modest.

01:34:03.000 People are people.

01:34:05.000 When you look in their eyes, they just want to eat food and get good at it.

01:34:08.000 Music is your religion, bro.

01:34:09.000 That's true.

01:34:10.000 Praise God.

01:34:11.000 Are you of an earth religion?

01:34:14.000 I mean, yeah, I am of an earth religion.

01:34:14.000 Yeah.

01:34:17.000 Yeah.

01:34:18.000 Here you go.

01:34:19.000 I prefer earth religions to say Martian ones.

01:34:21.000 Really?

01:34:22.000 Yeah.

01:34:23.000 Yeah.

01:34:24.000 Whatever they're doing up on Mars.

01:34:25.000 I have none of that.

01:34:26.000 Earthly religions, man, I don't know. 0.96

01:34:28.000 It seems like we only pray to money these days. 0.94

01:34:30.000 I know.

01:34:30.000 That's the earthly religion.

01:34:31.000 That's truly looking back at 10,000 years when they look back at this era, they were worshiping money and they didn't, maybe some of them didn't even realize that they'd been a doctorate.

01:34:39.000 St. Augustine says man has a desire to worship.

01:34:43.000 And if you take God from the picture, He will worship something.

01:34:46.000 Now, Elon says that the next phase of human currency will be just electricity and your ability to move a payload.

01:34:53.000 So, what will we begin to worship then?

01:34:55.000 I'm starting to think this Elon guy is full of it.

01:34:57.000 I don't know.

01:34:58.000 He just sees far ahead.

01:35:00.000 He sees cycles.

01:35:01.000 Ever since the Doge stuff, and he promised a trillion and only got a billion, I was just like, well, I knew before that too, but that was the nail in the coffin.

01:35:01.000 No, I don't know.

01:35:10.000 So, it's better than zero.

01:35:12.000 Yeah, it is better than zero, but if you over promise and under deliver, then you didn't do what you said you were going to do.

01:35:17.000 And people are disappointed.

01:35:19.000 And it's a big disappointment.

01:35:20.000 And I think, in a classic engineer's approach to government, I don't think he expected to find so many obstacles from his own side that people within the administration or maybe even within the cabinet were going to say, no, no, no, not this program because this is my part of the deep state and it has to stay. 0.75

01:35:39.000 I do wish I had as many kids as him, not as many baby mamas, though.

01:35:42.000 Do you have any kids? 0.99

01:35:43.000 No.

01:35:44.000 Are you planning?

01:35:44.000 I hope so.

01:35:45.000 What's the plan? 0.98

01:35:46.000 The plan is to find a beautiful Jewish woman.

01:35:48.000 So once you find her, what are you going to do?

01:35:50.000 I'm going to propose to her.

01:35:51.000 See, my problem is I find the girl and then I'm not good enough.

01:35:54.000 Well, then you didn't find her.

01:35:55.000 Yeah, I thought I did.

01:35:57.000 But, like, you know, you're always looking for the girl.

01:35:58.000 I thought it was like a birds and the bees conversation.

01:36:00.000 How old are you?

01:36:01.000 What are you going to do?

01:36:02.000 You need to do it slower than later, man.

01:36:03.000 Because my whole life, I'm like, I got to find the right girl.

01:36:05.000 And then I'm like, no, I got to be the right girl.

01:36:06.000 You look so young, but you might as well be your one's foot in the grave, man.

01:36:09.000 That's what it's starting to feel like.

01:36:10.000 It's crazy.

01:36:10.000 Even though you look so young.

01:36:12.000 Well, yeah, what are you at?

01:36:13.000 Yeah, 47.

01:36:13.000 47?

01:36:14.000 That's washed up, man.

01:36:15.000 I think I had 32 years left.

01:36:17.000 Genetic age of 44.

01:36:18.000 Last time I said that.

01:36:19.000 That's what you're picking it at?

01:36:20.000 79 is life expectancy.

01:36:22.000 Yeah, okay.

01:36:22.000 Yeah.

01:36:23.000 That's my assessment.

01:36:24.000 We're going to die.

01:36:26.000 Well, maybe.

01:36:27.000 I'm halfway there.

01:36:28.000 I'm just crossing the hill right now.

01:36:29.000 Dude, they're saying you're going to live to 150.

01:36:31.000 Pretty much everybody's going to be like 100.

01:36:33.000 Well, I'm not going to die.

01:36:35.000 Because I'm rich.

01:36:36.000 The rest of you, I don't know.

01:36:37.000 Maybe you.

01:36:38.000 You're friends with the government.

01:36:40.000 There you go. 0.96

01:36:41.000 Would you plug your brain into a machine?

01:36:44.000 No, like the cryogenic Walt Disney, just save my brain in my head.

01:36:48.000 No, no, no.

01:36:49.000 Brain digitization.

01:36:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:51.000 They plug a Neuralink in and then slowly, bit by bit, They replace your brain with quantum or nano neurons.

01:37:00.000 And then after 30 years, your whole brain is cybernetic.

01:37:04.000 Yeah, no, I'm not down with the cyborg thing.

01:37:06.000 Me neither, man.

01:37:07.000 I don't want to die because life.

01:37:08.000 Life is awesome, but sometimes I'm like, I don't know.

01:37:10.000 Death is awesome.

01:37:11.000 Sometimes you just want to let it go.

01:37:12.000 Here we go.

01:37:13.000 Sometimes I'm just lost and I'm like, what are we doing here?

01:37:17.000 Having kids.

01:37:17.000 Procreating that, procreating and then what?

01:37:20.000 What else is your purpose?

01:37:21.000 You have kids.

01:37:22.000 Be fruitful and multiply.

01:37:23.000 You pass butter.

01:37:25.000 Pass butter?

01:37:26.000 You pass the butter.

01:37:28.000 That's your purpose.

01:37:28.000 That's all.

01:37:29.000 Just help people out a little bit.

01:37:30.000 No.

01:37:30.000 Keep doing it.

01:37:31.000 Ian, just you during breakfast.

01:37:33.000 You're only here so that when I say pass the butter, you do.

01:37:35.000 I mean, that gives me something to do at least.

01:37:38.000 Purpose.

01:37:39.000 Establishing purpose for humans is very important.

01:37:41.000 Across the board, that's well known in the world.

01:37:43.000 It's a Rick and Morty joke.

01:37:44.000 It's a Rick and Morty joke.

01:37:44.000 What's that?

01:37:46.000 He creates a sentient little robot, and the robot looks at his hands and goes, What is my purpose?

01:37:50.000 And goes, Pass the butter.

01:37:51.000 The hands on the butter.

01:37:51.000 Of my Uncle Alvin.

01:37:52.000 And then he uses it, and the robot goes, What is my purpose?

01:37:55.000 He goes, You pass butter.

01:37:56.000 And the robot goes, Oh my God.

01:37:59.000 Whenever you'd ask Alvin to pass you the butter, he'd make sure you get your thumb stuck in it when he would hand it to you.

01:38:03.000 That's offensive.

01:38:04.000 He was an offensive farmer.

01:38:06.000 He was awesome.

01:38:06.000 You have kids who experience life and learn and iterate.

01:38:10.000 And the function of life, whether you want to call it purpose, is to organize free energy into complex systems, serving as negative entropy, although operating at a lesser rate than entropy itself.

01:38:22.000 Here's what I want to do is prevent World War III.

01:38:24.000 This is my life.

01:38:25.000 Build a space elevator.

01:38:26.000 I'm going to make it happen so now we cancel each other out.

01:38:28.000 You're going to make it happen?

01:38:29.000 You're going to try and stop it?

01:38:30.000 I'm going to try and make it happen.

01:38:31.000 I'm going to try and stop it. 0.83

01:38:32.000 I'm going to do it just to spite you.

01:38:34.000 I'm going to try and make it happen.

01:38:35.000 I have to stop it.

01:38:36.000 Don't do it.

01:38:37.000 Come back to me.

01:38:38.000 I want to do it. 0.99

01:38:40.000 World War 11? 0.83

01:38:41.000 Build a space elevator, prevent the World War.

01:38:43.000 If we can.

01:38:44.000 I don't know what the space elevator makes World War III happen.

01:38:46.000 Oh, yeah, truly.

01:38:48.000 What if I was gonna say the verbals are in competition?

01:38:51.000 So, like, America builds a space elevator, and then China's like, You can't have access to the moon like that.

01:38:56.000 We want access to the moon.

01:38:57.000 Then the U.S. starts moon mining real easily, and with access to these resources, starts growing too rapidly.

01:39:03.000 Other nations get threatened, and all of the resources coming from the moon and staying in Earth cause a shift in the rotation of the Earth because now they're displacing weight from the moon onto Earth, causing the Earth to wobble.

01:39:15.000 So, other countries are like, Dude.

01:39:17.000 Earth will be destroyed unless you guys stop moon mining.

01:39:19.000 And they're like, don't look at me, man.

01:39:21.000 I only moon mine a couple tons per year, but it's everyone doing it at once.

01:39:25.000 And so then a war breaks out and it's your fault.

01:39:26.000 We have to replace the weight that we take off the mass that we take off the moon.

01:39:30.000 We have to replace it with stuff.

01:39:31.000 I asked ChatGPT how much.

01:39:33.000 They were like, don't worry about it.

01:39:34.000 It would take so long to mine such moon mass that the tides would become affected.

01:39:39.000 But eventually it would happen.

01:39:41.000 So we would have to put rock, mine the metal, put the rock on there.

01:39:45.000 Just put water up there.

01:39:46.000 Water.

01:39:46.000 And it would just evaporate, though.

01:39:47.000 It would just evaporate.

01:39:48.000 It would just evaporate.

01:39:48.000 It would freeze, would it?

01:39:49.000 What a space.

01:39:50.000 It would not freeze.

01:39:51.000 I don't think so.

01:39:51.000 What other things should we do on Earth?

01:39:53.000 Because, like, the political thing in the US is fucking terrifying right now.

01:39:56.000 I'm like, what do we do? 0.94

01:39:57.000 We gotta.

01:39:58.000 We should make, like, a thousand more Pokemon.

01:40:02.000 Right now, there's about a thousand, but we need a thousand more.

01:40:06.000 I could do that.

01:40:06.000 Okay.

01:40:07.000 No, we need to go back to the original 151.

01:40:09.000 The biodiversity of Pokemon.

01:40:11.000 Yeah.

01:40:12.000 Yeah.

01:40:12.000 You know what?

01:40:13.000 Elod's right.

01:40:14.000 Let's delete all of them and just go back to the original, which didn't make sense.

01:40:18.000 There were, like, three birds in their whole world.

01:40:20.000 Yeah, once they got to the thousands, well, once they got the second set, it's gone.

01:40:23.000 I never really recognized any of those ones.

01:40:25.000 Yeah, recognized past the OGs.

01:40:27.000 And the collectability was gone.

01:40:29.000 Yeah.

01:40:30.000 Because the original Pokemon, there was only one species that had male and female.

01:40:34.000 Like every other species was just asexual, I guess, or hermaphroditic.

01:40:39.000 They should have capped it with Mewtwo.

01:40:41.000 With Mew and Mewtwo.

01:40:43.000 That should have been the end.

01:40:43.000 I think that's it.

01:40:44.000 I can't participate.

01:40:45.000 I never played it.

01:40:46.000 I never saw it.

01:40:46.000 I don't know anything.

01:40:47.000 My buddy sang the theme song.

01:40:48.000 Jason Page.

01:40:48.000 That's all I know.

01:40:49.000 Were you a Yu Gi Oh guy? 0.98

01:40:51.000 I guess I remember Crazy Bone. 1.00

01:40:53.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:53.000 I was thinking about this.

01:40:55.000 It's hard to explain what that was to a lot of people.

01:40:57.000 Yeah.

01:40:58.000 I think there's another name for a game that was similar to Crazy Bones, and Crazy Bones came in like a coffin.

01:41:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:04.000 You flick them, and then you get the other ones if you knock them down.

01:41:08.000 I never played it.

01:41:08.000 Okay.

01:41:09.000 It lasted for like one year.

01:41:10.000 Did you guys play crossbows and catapults in the 80s?

01:41:13.000 I mean, I just keep talking about old board games.

01:41:16.000 How old are you?

01:41:18.000 I'm 40.

01:41:20.000 I'm just a few years behind you on the journey into the career.

01:41:23.000 And you look a lot younger than him, too.

01:41:25.000 Well, genetic age and solar age aren't the same.

01:41:28.000 That's why I'm in the solar 80s.

01:41:30.000 Your genes can get younger, your telomeres can recall.

01:41:33.000 Okay.

01:41:33.000 I just saw this.

01:41:33.000 I got to pull it up because it's fun.

01:41:35.000 We're going to talk about this real quick.

01:41:36.000 This is from rslashtheories on Reddit.

01:41:39.000 The ballroom bunker must be stopped at all costs.

01:41:43.000 We have to prevent the ballroom bunker from being built.

01:41:45.000 We have to.

01:41:46.000 The ballroom is so important to him because it's not about the ballroom, never was.

01:41:50.000 It's about having a secure location for his Night of the Long Knives.

01:41:53.000 Wow.

01:41:53.000 What?

01:41:58.000 Oh, man.

01:41:58.000 How many upvotes does this thing have?

01:42:00.000 290.

01:42:02.000 His supporters want mass arrest.

01:42:04.000 They post about it constantly.

01:42:05.000 After they indicted the SPLC, his admin linked judges who were to the SPLC as lawyers.

01:42:09.000 We're being slow boiled alive.

01:42:11.000 Yeah.

01:42:12.000 The same people building the Silicon Valley bunkers are building his.

01:42:15.000 Why are they all needing these bunkers?

01:42:17.000 Why is it so important?

01:42:18.000 Do you really think they're going to allow us to get back in power and risk them getting arrested?

01:42:21.000 They're all implicated in the Epstein files.

01:42:23.000 The only way he gets to keep the government buildings with his name, passports, the golden dollars, his statues, his arch, stolen billions, is if the billionaire and he wipes us out and stays in power.

01:42:37.000 They can't live with us knowing what we know.

01:42:39.000 There is only one outcome in this timeline.

01:42:40.000 Unless we change it, we are in grave danger.

01:42:44.000 Yes, you are.

01:42:44.000 Trump wanted to make the straight of Trump.

01:42:47.000 He wanted to change the name of the straight.

01:42:48.000 I don't know if he wants to, but he posted that with his Truth Social account.

01:42:51.000 He posted it.

01:42:52.000 I got to be honest, like the Trump passports, Trump accounts.

01:42:56.000 Did you guys?

01:42:57.000 So I looked up the Trump accounts, right?

01:42:58.000 Yeah.

01:42:59.000 And it's IRS form 4547.

01:43:01.000 Yeah.

01:43:02.000 It's genius.

01:43:02.000 4547.

01:43:03.000 Oh, man.

01:43:04.000 It's genius.

01:43:06.000 Okay.

01:43:06.000 The Trump passports.

01:43:08.000 I'm like, I see people posing and be like, man, I really want to get one of these.

01:43:12.000 And I'm like, are you joking?

01:43:13.000 It's a novelty I don't really care about.

01:43:15.000 But the people who are like, yeah, Trump passport, I'm like, uh huh.

01:43:19.000 No, I totally want to get one.

01:43:20.000 What do you mean?

01:43:20.000 It's going to be iconic, especially like 10 years out from now.

01:43:22.000 Oh, and even thinking of 100 years.

01:43:23.000 No, it won't be iconic because 10 years out from now, there'll be the 10th edition.

01:43:27.000 No, they're definitely like, once Trump's out of office, they're definitely.

01:43:30.000 Wait, What do you mean once Trump is out of office?

01:43:35.000 Are you one of those guys?

01:43:35.000 Is that what you mean?

01:43:35.000 Yeah.

01:43:37.000 You're one of those guys.

01:43:38.000 Trump is building. 1.00

01:43:39.000 Like that meme where it's just every fucking day. 0.99

01:43:41.000 Guys, the ballroom is actually not a ballroom, it's the launch facility for Trump's Voltron. 0.99

01:43:47.000 Oh.

01:43:47.000 So, yeah, Hegseth.

01:43:49.000 Cash and Rubio each have a robot, and so does Trump.

01:43:54.000 And when they come together, they come out of the ballroom, it opens up from the roof.

01:43:58.000 What about?

01:43:59.000 Does JD have one?

01:44:00.000 Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, JD, JD, JD.

01:44:02.000 Yeah, he's the chest.

01:44:04.000 And then you've got Hagseth Vitale, the arms.

01:44:07.000 Trump is the head.

01:44:08.000 And they Voltron, and then they're going to just rampage through America, stepping on Democrat congressional office.

01:44:14.000 It's not a ballroom.

01:44:15.000 It's a, it's a, what is it?

01:44:16.000 It's like his pyramid.

01:44:17.000 It's his tomb.

01:44:18.000 It's going to be the president's tomb.

01:44:20.000 That's right.

01:44:20.000 He's going to be at the White House.

01:44:22.000 Very Egyptian. 1.00

01:44:23.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:44:24.000 Beneath it is going to be all of his riches.

01:44:24.000 It would be funny.

01:44:27.000 That's where it's going to store all of his money and gold.

01:44:28.000 It would actually be hilarious.

01:44:30.000 I'm sorry, it would be.

01:44:31.000 If as soon as it's built, they line all of Trump's assets, just like gold, cars, and then right in the middle is a cryogenic chamber, and Trump just gets in and says, I resign.

01:44:41.000 And then lays down and just freezes them right there.

01:44:44.000 It's sealed off.

01:44:46.000 Yeah, the whole room, gigantic iron gates come down, steel shutters.

01:44:53.000 No one can get in it for 200 years.

01:44:55.000 It's just there.

01:44:56.000 And then, like 100 years from now, I'd be like, yeah, the 47th president's still in there.

01:45:00.000 I have a feeling, I guess, if the Republicans hold office, it probably won't happen.

01:45:03.000 But if the Democrats took the presidential power, they would just undo a bunch of the naming stuff that Trump's been doing.

01:45:09.000 Well, I think that's guaranteed.

01:45:10.000 Okay, I thought so.

01:45:11.000 All of it is 100%.

01:45:13.000 Real quick, the conspiracy theory here is that under the ballroom actually is a massive bunker.

01:45:18.000 And the libs think the ballroom is the guys, is the, like, we're building a ballroom for special events.

01:45:18.000 Oh.

01:45:25.000 But it's actually so they can build a deep underground bunker with special capabilities and stuff like that.

01:45:30.000 There's definitely funny business under the ballroom.

01:45:30.000 I imagine they're in a.

01:45:32.000 I don't know whether or not that was like the impetus for why the president wanted to build a new thing.

01:45:36.000 What funny business?

01:45:37.000 We don't know exactly, but some funny business. 0.89

01:45:39.000 Like clowns? 0.97

01:45:40.000 Definitely clowns. 0.99

01:45:41.000 Juggling down there. 0.99

01:45:42.000 Something is going to be going on underneath.

01:45:43.000 Clowns with laser guns?

01:45:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:45.000 One clown's juggling while the other one shoots them with the lasers. 0.98

01:45:45.000 Something on. 0.98

01:45:48.000 And Trump's down there going, I love being president.

01:45:51.000 I don't think they've made a new situation room in a few decades.

01:45:53.000 Like, there's a couple of different things that would make sense for them to have.

01:45:57.000 You mentioned just. 0.60

01:45:57.000 Well, so the conspiracy theory on the White House shooting is that it was staged to create a legal justification for the ballroom, which is dumb because it doesn't make sense legally. 0.60

01:46:06.000 You can't go to court and be like, this ex. Extraneous event occurred, therefore, I now have legal standing to build with taxpayer dollars.

01:46:13.000 So they're going to be like, these are unrelated things.

01:46:15.000 You don't get legal standing based on a thing happening somewhere else.

01:46:18.000 I bet they got a big bunker under the White House.

01:46:20.000 Under the White House is a network of tunnels.

01:46:22.000 I've been there.

01:46:22.000 You can just go there.

01:46:23.000 Yeah, they have a bowling alley.

01:46:23.000 Oh, cool.

01:46:25.000 Oh, do they go deeper than they?

01:46:28.000 Yes.

01:46:28.000 There's deeper and deeper and deeper tunnels.

01:46:30.000 And they go 40, 50 miles out.

01:46:31.000 Wow.

01:46:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:46:33.000 So the White House is a complex.

01:46:35.000 There's a couple of buildings, like there's the White House.

01:46:37.000 And you go there quite a bit with the press briefing.

01:46:39.000 There's the White House, and then there's the buildings next to them.

01:46:41.000 And underground, it's all connected.

01:46:43.000 And then there's secret tunnels that go way out 40 miles into like Western Maryland.

01:46:43.000 Exactly.

01:46:47.000 Yeah, in case like a nuclear blast happens and you do a vacuum.

01:46:50.000 They're big.

01:46:50.000 They drive.

01:46:51.000 I think they were testing in areas like that.

01:46:52.000 And actually, if you walk around D.C. and you're smart, you can find the old tunnels.

01:46:57.000 The old tunnels, some of which are like at Georgetown University that were used during the Civil War.

01:47:01.000 You can see the exit.

01:47:02.000 Wow.

01:47:02.000 There will be like a weird thing where if you don't really think about it, you don't know what it is.

01:47:06.000 But if you know where they are, you can see the exits that pop up in the middle of D.C. or somewhere where there are exits to secret escape tunnels.

01:47:12.000 And it's completely reasonable for people to dig tunnels every now and then and there's nothing weird about that.

01:47:16.000 Oh, Boring Company got.

01:47:17.000 Elon started a porn company and then it just went dark.

01:47:19.000 It's totally government.

01:47:20.000 Look at this.

01:47:21.000 They're building so many tunnels right now, dude.

01:47:23.000 It's not a ballroom.

01:47:25.000 Time magazine's calling it a massive military complex.

01:47:28.000 Interesting.

01:47:30.000 What if Trump is building, like, what if Trump really is everything Democrats have claimed he is?

01:47:35.000 And all the Republicans that are like, I wish he was the fascist they claimed he was.

01:47:39.000 He is, but not on the surface.

01:47:41.000 So we don't get anything we actually want, but all of the worst things imaginable are actually happening.

01:47:45.000 Well, I mean, the crazy thing, though, about this picture.

01:47:49.000 That's running with this story in time.

01:47:51.000 It assumes that we don't have Google Earth imaging.

01:47:54.000 Like you could bring up the satellite pictures of what they're building.

01:47:57.000 So if it is a massive military complex, China, Iran, everyone already knows about it.

01:48:05.000 I'm skeptical of this because they would have done more to secure the site and they would have moved faster to construct even before the lawsuits.

01:48:11.000 It's very, also, I don't think you would want it right next to the White House if you were going to build a big military complex.

01:48:16.000 You want it farther away so if it gets hit by a missile, it doesn't blow up the entire.

01:48:20.000 Yeah.

01:48:21.000 Placenta.

01:48:22.000 Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, the one thing a lot of Americans don't understand about the White House is it's a 18th century house that's doing triple, quadruple duty now as the nerve center of the executive branch, as the official sort of meet and greet for the head of state, you know, for the first ladies.

01:48:42.000 It's maxed out.

01:48:43.000 It's totally maxed out.

01:48:44.000 There is, the president is not wrong.

01:48:45.000 I mean, when, you know, the thing that liberals made a big deal about in 45, that he came and he was like, wow, this place is kind of a dump.

01:48:50.000 I mean, there's so many people going through there, the quarters are cramped.

01:48:55.000 You mentioned the Situation Room.

01:48:56.000 The last time it was rewired was, I think, the end of the Clinton presidency.

01:49:00.000 The last massive retrofit of it was under President Nixon.

01:49:04.000 And these retrofits, because it's a place of work, they just kind of paper shit over.

01:49:08.000 So the building needs to be updated.

01:49:11.000 I want to stress this too.

01:49:12.000 Living in the White House would be living in a hotel with a convention going on 24 7.

01:49:17.000 It's like the most miserable thing that you could imagine.

01:49:20.000 The White House, again, it's a complex.

01:49:22.000 Actually, let me pull up Earth and explain this.

01:49:24.000 They're going to paint it eventually.

01:49:26.000 Paint it? 0.95

01:49:26.000 Yeah, they keep the brown house. 0.95

01:49:28.000 They made it, they based it off of Roman architecture, which is all these white pillars of marble.

01:49:32.000 But The paint wore off of those.

01:49:34.000 They actually paint their houses like normal humans.

01:49:37.000 So, here you go.

01:49:39.000 Memorabilia that's like all white.

01:49:41.000 So, you've got the Eisenhower building, and this is part of the White House complex, but the White House actually is these three buildings.

01:49:47.000 They tore this one down, right?

01:49:48.000 That's the one that got knocked out.

01:49:49.000 That's gone.

01:49:50.000 Yeah.

01:49:50.000 And then you've got the Treasury building.

01:49:52.000 So, you go in here.

01:49:53.000 This is the press briefing.

01:49:54.000 This is the press briefing right here a lot?

01:49:55.000 A little bit to the right.

01:49:56.000 To the right.

01:49:57.000 Right here?

01:49:57.000 Yeah.

01:49:58.000 That long portion.

01:49:59.000 A long portion.

01:50:00.000 Yeah.

01:50:00.000 So, that's where the oval is.

01:50:02.000 And that's gone to where your cruise earth.

01:50:04.000 Left, down, yeah.

01:50:06.000 Yeah, bottom right part of the.

01:50:06.000 In here?

01:50:07.000 Oh, yeah, the west wing, right?

01:50:08.000 The swimming pool?

01:50:09.000 And where your cursor just was, like the rose garden, that's gone.

01:50:09.000 Yeah.

01:50:12.000 Yeah, now it's just a cave building.

01:50:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:13.000 And there's a few statues there.

01:50:15.000 So here's the White House.

01:50:16.000 Imagine living in here, and you've got all the people showing up for work in here, and in here, and in here, and in here, and in here.

01:50:22.000 You're living at the castle.

01:50:24.000 No, it's like living in a convention.

01:50:25.000 Yeah.

01:50:26.000 Yeah.

01:50:27.000 There's a lot of traffic in and out consistently.

01:50:27.000 Sorry, I didn't mean it.

01:50:29.000 Yeah, it's nuts.

01:50:30.000 24 7.

01:50:31.000 To the southwest of that, is that a pool that you can swim in?

01:50:35.000 I'm not.

01:50:35.000 Looks like it.

01:50:36.000 There's a pool.

01:50:37.000 I never get close to that.

01:50:39.000 Is that just for people that live there or work there?

01:50:42.000 I mean, I think, I mean, the first family, obviously, but I think that's right behind the chief's office, the chief of staff's office is in that corner over there.

01:50:50.000 And then deep underground.

01:50:52.000 Which ones?

01:50:53.000 You said press briefing is right here?

01:50:54.000 Yeah.

01:50:55.000 Oh, well, how does that work though?

01:50:56.000 Because I feel like I walked in here.

01:50:59.000 You might have entered through the.

01:51:00.000 Yeah, I did.

01:51:01.000 That's just to the west wing there.

01:51:02.000 To the west wing.

01:51:02.000 Yeah, okay.

01:51:03.000 Yeah, we walked down these stairs and we walked up here and then we entered here.

01:51:06.000 That's Pebble Lane right there.

01:51:08.000 If you look a little bit north, Him Pebble Beach, yeah, Pebble Beach.

01:51:11.000 Those tents right there are where, um, yeah, all the press people shoot live videos from, right?

01:51:15.000 Right, and Trump's like he walks in and then they're all standing there.

01:51:18.000 And then you go to the right, and that would be where we enter the press briefing room, right?

01:51:22.000 Here, yeah, down here, no, to the right, we'd go down that street.

01:51:25.000 Yeah, this right here, no, left a little bit between where you were at orange, yeah, the orange build.

01:51:31.000 Yeah, I think he's intentionally mousing around it.

01:51:33.000 I like doing it.

01:51:34.000 I'm just like, this looks like a hallway, it doesn't look like the entrance.

01:51:37.000 It had they retrofitted the uh briefing room?

01:51:39.000 I think you mentioned that it was had been cramped or.

01:51:41.000 Or somebody that's very correct, they didn't retrofit it, it's very tiny and they can't purposefully keep it that way.

01:51:45.000 The last major retrofit of the White House complex was under Harry Truman.

01:51:50.000 That they did a significant refit of the facade, they added the balcony on the south lawn.

01:51:56.000 I mean, so because a lot of presidents don't want to lose the symbolic power of being in the White House.

01:52:02.000 So I think, like, the end of the Clinton presidency, they moved some offices out to do like new paint and new carpet.

01:52:07.000 But like, the idea of shutting down the White House for a major retrofit for two or three years.

01:52:13.000 While the president works out of a temporary office in the old executive office, no president wants to forego the symbolism of the White House.

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01:53:59.000 Let's grab your rumble rants and super chats.

01:54:04.000 We got Jay Dirtbiker says, rip to one of the greatest of all time in country music, Mr. David Allen Coe.

01:54:10.000 He's finally being called by his name.

01:54:11.000 Is that how you say it? 0.56

01:54:14.000 Ghostblade says, Southern Poverty Law Center has given a new definition to Hood Rats, a Democrat organization that falsifies hatred to gain fraudulent privileges and play victim to their own manufactured hate.

01:54:26.000 Codrum says, how about we just get rid of districts? 0.61

01:54:29.000 Just give proportional seats to each party, i.e., 20 seat state, that's 55, 45, Reg, it's 11 GOP and 9 Dem.

01:54:36.000 Not D. Districts are different, and you don't want to be in a blue state where you have no representation.

01:54:43.000 Graham says the only reason Michigan is blue is because 60% of voters are in the southeast of the lower peninsula.

01:54:49.000 I think Michigan should be two states.

01:54:53.000 Why is it split with the water?

01:54:53.000 What's going on?

01:54:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:56.000 Yeah, what is that?

01:54:57.000 Wisconsin that has that other part?

01:54:59.000 Yeah, the upper peninsula.

01:55:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:01.000 What is this, huh?

01:55:02.000 Some kind of.

01:55:04.000 Wisconsinites must just be kind of soft.

01:55:06.000 I mean, for sure. 0.63

01:55:07.000 It's an opportunistic thing to do.

01:55:09.000 Take their territory.

01:55:10.000 Well, I guess to be fair, there is a bridge connecting them.

01:55:13.000 Okay.

01:55:16.000 Yeah, what's going on?

01:55:17.000 And then Canada is stealing part of the land.

01:55:19.000 Yeah, we can't accept that.

01:55:19.000 Yeah, totally.

01:55:21.000 Could you imagine you're on a boat in Lake Superior, mind your own business, and accidentally you're in Canada now?

01:55:26.000 That'd be the worst thing ever.

01:55:28.000 That used to happen in Lake Superior.

01:55:29.000 They just shoot you, they throw maple syrup cocktails.

01:55:33.000 No, no, they would vax you and enroll you in some kind of socialized health care.

01:55:38.000 No.

01:55:40.000 Things that we just don't want.

01:55:40.000 Indeed.

01:55:42.000 All right, let's grab some more of these here, Super Chats.

01:55:45.000 What does it say?

01:55:47.000 War a pack?

01:55:48.000 What does it say?

01:55:49.000 I don't know how to say your name.

01:55:49.000 War a pack?

01:55:51.000 Is being a fascist worse than being a communist? 0.97

01:55:54.000 Communists kill more people in history than anyone else. 0.87

01:55:57.000 Yeah, actually, and fascist countries actually just dissolve. 0.71

01:56:00.000 Communists, fascist countries eventually just like they dissolve into general elections. 0.95

01:56:09.000 Communist countries kill everybody until they blow up.

01:56:13.000 So I was actually reading an interesting academic article about this that if you look at, you know, Spain, for instance, It eventually just soft turned back into a standard republic.

01:56:24.000 Well, after, I mean, Franco wrote a constitution that restored the monarchy and allowed for democratic elections.

01:56:30.000 Yeah.

01:56:31.000 Whereas communists fight to the bitter end until there's no one left.

01:56:34.000 Yeah, there's no one.

01:56:36.000 Is North Korea considered fascist or communist?

01:56:39.000 Communist.

01:56:40.000 Yeah.

01:56:41.000 Totalitarian.

01:56:43.000 For sure.

01:56:43.000 Yeah.

01:56:44.000 Yeah.

01:56:44.000 Is our all.

01:56:45.000 More than anything else.

01:56:46.000 Like, I mean, I'm sure they, the ideology is communist, but like, yeah.

01:56:50.000 It's more state repression than.

01:56:53.000 Batman says, Tim, I've been watching you since the beginning.

01:56:55.000 You're amazing and truly inspirational because of you and your message.

01:56:58.000 I am enlisting in the Army and striving to serve America the best I can.

01:57:01.000 Thank you for everything, Tim.

01:57:03.000 Well, amazing.

01:57:04.000 Best of luck.

01:57:05.000 Tim, you're motivating the next generation of patriots.

01:57:08.000 Well, I mean, I've never advocated people join the Army because I have issues with the.

01:57:13.000 You're going to get this guy to drop out now.

01:57:15.000 Let me put it like this.

01:57:16.000 Let's say the year is 1780.

01:57:21.000 Now, let's go with the.

01:57:22.000 1780 could work.

01:57:23.000 Revolutionary War.

01:57:26.000 There is a battle going on, and they know that there's this dude who lives in Virginia who's one of the best tacticians ever, but he's just not in the army.

01:57:34.000 They can issue a field commission.

01:57:36.000 They can be like, We need you.

01:57:38.000 Because this is when humans made sense and it wasn't bureaucratic.

01:57:40.000 It was like, Listen, I'm in charge of this.

01:57:43.000 Would you like to fight alongside me?

01:57:44.000 I'll give you a field commission.

01:57:45.000 They'd be like, Okay, you can't do that anymore.

01:57:47.000 Now it's like, Did you go to college?

01:57:49.000 It's like, Well, you could have a guy who's one of the best in terms of private military stuff.

01:57:57.000 Trained with a bunch of crazy top tier guys, and they're going to be like, Sorry, we can hire you privately, but you literally can't join the military unless you go to college.

01:58:05.000 Can they do battlefield appointments, commissions?

01:58:08.000 Legally, they can't.

01:58:08.000 I don't know.

01:58:09.000 Genghis Khan was great at that.

01:58:10.000 He'd find the smartest, best people, and he just put them in power.

01:58:13.000 They were like, Nope.

01:58:13.000 That's how it used to be.

01:58:15.000 I think there is credit that should be given to Hegseth here in getting rid of the idea that promotion through the general officer ranks relies on you getting a degree from Princeton or Harvard.

01:58:27.000 But to Tim's point, I mean, like, Look, under the current bureaucratic system we have, you know, MacArthur would have been out before the end of World War II.

01:58:27.000 That's gone.

01:58:35.000 LeMay would have been out because it's promote or you're out, and there's an age cap on promotion.

01:58:40.000 So, all this genius that we credit now would have never been in the positions they were in in those pivotal moments because of bureaucracy.

01:58:47.000 It's way too bureaucratic and it becomes rigid.

01:58:51.000 And I know it's a large organization, so not everyone has the same experience, but the people that I know who have served when I stayed briefly at Fort Carson for about a month and a half when my My sister was living there and I stayed with her.

01:59:05.000 And I lived briefly outside of Fort Eustis when my brother was stationed there.

01:59:09.000 And the stories that I hear from people there, they're just like, it's like working at Walmart.

01:59:16.000 You know, you go to your chain of command, you might go to the chain of command, you might be like, hey, here's a thing that needs to be solved.

01:59:21.000 And they're like, the mechanism doesn't allow for us to solve problems that way.

01:59:25.000 You hear about the bureaucracy of it.

01:59:27.000 And it's just, it is inefficient, in my opinion.

01:59:31.000 I would love to.

01:59:32.000 I know getting Hagseth on the show is a big ask, but, and maybe while he's serving.

01:59:36.000 That'd be great to.

01:59:37.000 To hear about what it was when he came in, how he's changed it, what he wants to change it to.

01:59:41.000 Yeah.

01:59:42.000 We just have to go to him.

01:59:43.000 Okay.

01:59:43.000 I think we've already had the discussion with administration people, and it's like, bro, trying to get the Secretary of War to come out here for your show.

01:59:51.000 Like, go there, and he'll sit down with you, and he'll talk to you.

01:59:53.000 I do think this is why you see such a virulent reaction the antibody reaction from the deep state and the DC elite to Hegseth is because he is changing a lot of the ways that we recruit and we get the general officers, but also some of these really.

02:00:08.000 Fake and sort of silly requirements.

02:00:10.000 I'm like, well, you can't be an officer unless you went to college, or you can't promote unless you got this fake credential from the executive program.

02:00:17.000 Yeah, we can't function this way.

02:00:18.000 Like, there's going to be some dude, and this is the problem with the over reliance on private enterprise to subsidize effectively the failures that we're having in our military.

02:00:29.000 Now, by all means, I think it's great if you're signing up, if you're enlisting.

02:00:33.000 That's absolutely fantastic.

02:00:35.000 I'm not trying to rag and say don't do it.

02:00:36.000 I'm just saying there's a lot of guys who work in cybersecurity, for instance.

02:00:42.000 And they grew up in a world of computers where they became some of the best OPSEC guys on the planet.

02:00:47.000 And they did not go to school and they did not train to be in the military.

02:00:51.000 And now the government relies on private contractors for most of this stuff.

02:00:56.000 Maybe not most of it at this point.

02:00:57.000 Maybe things are changing.

02:00:58.000 But it was always so to me, and largely this view is predicated upon this that I knew people who were the best hackers you'd ever see in terms of actual computer networking, real hacking, real computer hacking.

02:01:10.000 And they would do private contracts, be outside the chain of command. 0.96

02:01:14.000 And I'm like, this is dumb. 0.97

02:01:15.000 Why can't they go to you and say, we're going to put you through basic training? 0.95

02:01:18.000 You are going to come in as an officer specializing in cybersecurity.

02:01:21.000 You can be in the military.

02:01:22.000 Nope.

02:01:23.000 Can't do it.

02:01:24.000 So, what they do is they hire you privately and then you're outside the chain of command. 0.99

02:01:27.000 And it's just, I think that's dumb. 0.98

02:01:29.000 I think it's bad for the U.S. military. 0.96

02:01:31.000 And I think to your point, the over reliance on the private sector subsidy just compensates for the obvious inefficiencies, the pathogens in government.

02:01:42.000 I suppose the argument that I've heard is that there's a lot of things you need to know that is administrative about being an officer the functions of the chain of command, the ranks, even pay structures.

02:01:53.000 I think security clearances too.

02:01:54.000 Like how you actually do it.

02:01:56.000 You can't just be a regular person who has no idea how the machine works and come into the machine.

02:02:00.000 The only thing I would say on that is so I'm a reservist in the Air Force.

02:02:04.000 I was a dude off the street.

02:02:05.000 I went to officer training school.

02:02:08.000 They don't teach you any of that stuff.

02:02:10.000 Any of this.

02:02:11.000 Try to navigate your way through healthcare, your pay, any of that.

02:02:15.000 I mean, this is part of the bureaucracy.

02:02:18.000 It's all just kind of like a mystical, specialized knowledge you have to gain.

02:02:23.000 What really I think.

02:02:25.000 What got it for me is how many times I heard someone who was really passionate and wanted to be in there for a career, but they felt that they were held back by bureaucracy.

02:02:34.000 Oh, I think, I mean, really, honestly, I think you're exactly right.

02:02:38.000 I would say it's even bigger than the military, though, that we have so many people in our country who are autodidacts, they're self trained, they learned a skill on the farm, they learned a skill from dad, who was a skilled tradesman.

02:02:51.000 And unless they have a paper credential saying, oh, you are an expert in this, there's no place in our economy for them.

02:02:57.000 And that's just not true with the American experience.

02:03:00.000 I mean, America's genius has always been the tinkerer and the garage creates the, you know, the PC.

02:03:06.000 Apple was made in a garage by a couple of buddies and a marketing guy.

02:03:08.000 Totally.

02:03:09.000 Exactly.

02:03:10.000 Let's grab one more.

02:03:11.000 We got a good one here before we go to the uncensored portion.

02:03:13.000 Skull Kid says the DOJ has stated they will enforce the SCOTUS ruling in every state with racially gerrymandered districts.

02:03:19.000 I believe that would be Harmite Dillon, right?

02:03:20.000 Yeah.

02:03:21.000 Oh, man.

02:03:23.000 Civil Rights Division.

02:03:24.000 So they're going to basically go to every state and say, we are making you do this.

02:03:28.000 I'm stoked.

02:03:28.000 I'm excited.

02:03:29.000 I'm really excited for when they finally let me go into the deep underground military bunker they're building at the White House and give me a tour.

02:03:34.000 It's going to be fun.

02:03:35.000 All right, everybody, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.

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02:03:42.000 Yeah, great to be with you.

02:03:43.000 Thanks for having me, guys.

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02:03:47.000 Theo, it's been really fun, very insightful.

02:03:50.000 Hope you come back again soon.

02:03:51.000 Love that.

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02:03:55.000 Thanks for tuning in, everybody.

02:03:56.000 What's up, Ian?

02:03:57.000 Just saying goodbye.

02:03:58.000 I'm at Ian Crossland.

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02:04:07.000 I put a short up about how to wake people up from when they become an NPC.

02:04:11.000 You can snap them back because what's happening is the spirit is like a player that's playing the game of Earth, and you're a character in the game that it's moving around.

02:04:21.000 People, sometimes the spirits stray from other humans and they're just walking around without a spirit.

02:04:25.000 And when you look them in the eyes and acknowledge them and realize them, the spirit, like wave particle duality, snaps into position.

02:04:33.000 And now you have a spirited human in front of you, and they're a player character again.

02:04:37.000 You can wake people up.

02:04:38.000 So continue to do that.

02:04:39.000 Take care of yourself.

02:04:40.000 Carter Banks.

02:04:41.000 I'm going to go watch that short tonight.

02:04:43.000 And it sounds really, really good to become a PC instead of an NPC.

02:04:50.000 So, the tutorial on that.

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02:06:07.000 Over Sam Fran.

02:06:08.000 Sam Fran is cool.

02:06:09.000 Should we relocate to Charlevoix?

02:06:12.000 Where's that?

02:06:13.000 Look at this.

02:06:13.000 They got Round Lake and it's, you know, it connects.

02:06:16.000 Is that a lake?

02:06:17.000 Yeah, Lake Charlevoix and then it connects to Lake Michigan.

02:06:20.000 Oh, look at that.

02:06:21.000 Nah, too cold.

02:06:23.000 Too tippy for me up there.

02:06:24.000 Traverse City.

02:06:25.000 I hear good things.

02:06:27.000 It's beautiful up there.

02:06:28.000 Is it?

02:06:28.000 Yeah, it is.

02:06:30.000 I will say in McMorrow's ring, like the ring future, the war will be for this part of the real estate because that's a lot of.

02:06:38.000 Michigan?

02:06:39.000 That's a lot of drinkable water.

02:06:41.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:42.000 I mean, the battle over the Great Lakes has been going on for a long time, and the only thing protecting them is Canada.

02:06:47.000 Yeah.

02:06:48.000 So basically, a bunch of other states want rights to the water, but because there's an international treaty, you can't.

02:06:56.000 If it was just U.S. territory, that water would be dry.

02:06:59.000 Those lakes would be gone.

02:07:01.000 Like, what was that?

02:07:03.000 That lake that they used to go vacation at?

02:07:05.000 The Salton Sea.

02:07:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:07:07.000 But that was because they broke.

02:07:12.000 They broke, what you call it, they breached between the sea and this flatbed, which flooded it.

02:07:19.000 And then they closed it.

02:07:19.000 So now it's slowly just evaporating.

02:07:21.000 Oh.

02:07:22.000 Yeah. 0.86

02:07:23.000 But there's a bunch of states that are arguing they should have a right to pump water from the freshwater out and use it in other areas.

02:07:32.000 There's the Great Lakes Coalition or something.

02:07:33.000 Compact.

02:07:34.000 Compact.

02:07:35.000 It includes Ontario.

02:07:36.000 So because there's an international treaty, when these other states, like Arizona specifically, file suit saying, we want to ship water from the Great Lakes, they go, Your lawsuit doesn't have standing because it extends to a foreign country, which now involves international relations.

02:07:36.000 Yeah.

02:07:52.000 So they can't sue over it.

02:07:53.000 So, who gets the water?

02:07:54.000 Is it just the border?

02:07:55.000 Only the states.

02:07:56.000 Only the states, and they have a compact with, yeah, it's like the Great Lakes Compact with Ontario.

02:08:02.000 So, the thing about Lake Michigan is that it is getting depleted, and they have to control how much water comes out of it so that it can refill.

02:08:11.000 If they consume too much, it will go away and never come back.

02:08:13.000 Where is it coming from?

02:08:15.000 I guess from rain?

02:08:16.000 Rain, largely.

02:08:17.000 It was old glaciers back in the day that melted.

02:08:21.000 But from elevated areas, rainwater will collect and it will slowly replenish these lakes.

02:08:21.000 Wow.

02:08:27.000 If we consume too much, it will never come back.

02:08:29.000 Somebody today, oh, it was Glenn Beck, said, We got to watch out.

02:08:33.000 We got to be really careful because upcoming could be a drought.

02:08:35.000 I don't know why he said it.

02:08:36.000 It was the first time I've heard that word drought, thought about a drought.

02:08:39.000 Well, California goes into droughts like all the time.

02:08:40.000 Yeah, definitely. 0.98

02:08:41.000 He was saying that a lot of like the shit that could really pop off could be because of a drought, which could lead to a famine. 0.99

02:08:46.000 Oh, easy. 0.99

02:08:47.000 So.

02:08:47.000 That was interesting.

02:08:48.000 Well, just lack of water.

02:08:49.000 And then the Great Lakes areas become fortified.

02:08:52.000 And I mean, imagine we have a massive drought on the West Coast.

02:08:56.000 Let's say the California drought extends, because the last drought we had extended in Nevada and Arizona as well.

02:09:00.000 Let's say it gets real bad.

02:09:01.000 And then they start saying, we want this water.

02:09:04.000 The Great Lakes states could secede for that reason.

02:09:08.000 Outside of anything political we're watching right now, in the event there's a water catastrophe, these states are going to create their own government.

02:09:15.000 And we're not far from a water catastrophe.

02:09:18.000 I mean, the fight over the Colorado River Compact involves like, Oh, yeah.

02:09:22.000 I mean, that's blowing up right now.

02:09:25.000 We could shut California down in two seconds by just locking out the Colorado River, which also goes to Austin, Texas.

02:09:31.000 What's the compact?

02:09:32.000 What the Colorado River is?

02:09:33.000 So, those Western states all determined how you portion rights to the Colorado River.

02:09:39.000 You know, some are at the headwaters, some are sort of down low.

02:09:42.000 Mexico is also a party to that because, you know, they get the runoff at the very end.

02:09:47.000 But California, historically, for years and years, has just been taking more than its share.

02:09:52.000 Both for ag and then massive Southern California development.

02:09:55.000 And their groundwater is running out because of the droughts.

02:09:58.000 The amount of water they need is more than is produced through precipitation over a long period of time.

02:10:03.000 So, you know, 10 years ago, there was a massive drought.

02:10:05.000 They sucked up an insane amount of groundwater.

02:10:08.000 There's something with their elevation where they can't, like, collect it easy on their own and it has to come back.

02:10:08.000 It's not coming back.

02:10:13.000 You want to know what's real crazy?

02:10:15.000 This right here used to be water.

02:10:17.000 Oh.

02:10:17.000 Yeah.

02:10:18.000 So that's where I grew up.

02:10:20.000 That's the largest agricultural producing region in the entire world.

02:10:24.000 It feeds about one fifth of the world.

02:10:25.000 It was one of the biggest lakes in the world.

02:10:28.000 And it got drained accidentally.

02:10:28.000 What?

02:10:30.000 It got cut out to the ocean or something?

02:10:30.000 What?

02:10:32.000 You can see it in the Bay Area.

02:10:34.000 This whole thing right here used to be a lake. 0.99

02:10:34.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:10:36.000 When? 0.99

02:10:38.000 What is it?

02:10:39.000 What's the actual.

02:10:40.000 Is this like flood era, 13,000 years ago kind of thing?

02:10:43.000 Or was this more in modern history that this was.

02:10:45.000 Well, there was what they call like a 100 year flood that happened, I think, in the 18th century that there was a huge, huge lake that was there.

02:10:53.000 A long, long time ago.

02:10:55.000 And then the remnants of it was drained 600,000 years ago.

02:10:55.000 Yeah.

02:10:58.000 Oh, oh.

02:10:59.000 Yeah.

02:10:59.000 Okay.

02:11:00.000 And then the rich.

02:11:01.000 13,700 square mile basin full of water.

02:11:05.000 Making it rich, baby.

02:11:06.000 Yeah.

02:11:06.000 The big problem this year, though, is the snowpack all throughout the West.

02:11:10.000 Was nothing.

02:11:11.000 And that's in Utah, had a historically awful ski season because there was no snow, no snow in the Sierras, no snow in Nevada.

02:11:18.000 So the drought, you know, usually the thing that gets you through is the snowpack.

02:11:23.000 And then when it melts, you get.

02:11:24.000 There was no snow in Jackson Hole.

02:11:27.000 Yeah, none.

02:11:27.000 We went up there, we went skiing in February or whatever.

02:11:31.000 And it was dry everywhere.

02:11:33.000 And it was funny because we went there, my wife was doing training, special training program, Steep and Deep.

02:11:41.000 But there was only steep and no deep.

02:11:43.000 Wow.

02:11:43.000 And so they have no snow machines.

02:11:45.000 Yeah, no, none.

02:11:46.000 It was funny.

02:11:47.000 I went to a gas station and this guy, I was talking to the guy behind the counter and he said, the worst it's ever been in 60 years.

02:11:55.000 And when I went skiing with my wife up at the, I forgot what it's Jackson Hole, but the name of the mountain, I forgot what it is.

02:12:02.000 They don't have snow machines because why would they need to install them?

02:12:05.000 They get like 60 feet of snow or some insane amount of snow.

02:12:08.000 It's like having fireplaces in Puerto Rico or something.

02:12:10.000 Yeah.

02:12:10.000 Exactly.

02:12:11.000 So, this is going to be a nuclear bomb right now as the snow should be melting and refilling aquifers and streams and tributaries and all that stuff.

02:12:17.000 And it's not.

02:12:18.000 Oh, dude.

02:12:19.000 Well, desalination, I keep thinking about it.

02:12:19.000 Yep.

02:12:22.000 I know it's like a.

02:12:22.000 It doesn't work.

02:12:23.000 Let's put a bandaid on this flowing.

02:12:23.000 It doesn't work.

02:12:25.000 It doesn't work for a few reasons.

02:12:28.000 The first thing that happens is the brine that's produced from desalination.

02:12:32.000 So, they've got.

02:12:33.000 I actually have a mini doc on my channel.

02:12:35.000 You can watch it.

02:12:36.000 They have these massive walls of all these PVC tubes.

02:12:40.000 They high pressure force water through and the salt.

02:12:43.000 Gets left behind, but it's not just salt, it's brine.

02:12:46.000 They basically create two substances fresh water and brine.

02:12:51.000 So you have salt water and you get fresh water and brine.

02:12:53.000 The brine is then just exhausted into the ocean where it's heavy and goes under the waterbed, killing all of the base level organisms, which causes ecological collapse in the region.

02:13:04.000 Can it be used?

02:13:05.000 Brine?

02:13:06.000 Brine?

02:13:06.000 Yeah.

02:13:07.000 So one pitch was to drain the brine into basins so that it would evaporate and just produce salt sheets that could then sell the salt.

02:13:15.000 That's interesting.

02:13:16.000 For the time being, though, it doesn't produce enough and it kills way too much of the ocean life.

02:13:23.000 Doesn't it also heat the immediate ocean temperature?

02:13:28.000 Well, I don't know how much that affects algae, but I interviewed a guy and he's like, it's hot.

02:13:33.000 It comes out hot and that produces a problem.

02:13:37.000 The other issue is the main reason why big environmentalists don't want to advocate for it, despite the fact that desalinization, like the production of water, should be more environmentally friendly considering the groundwater pumping, is because if we set up desalination plants along the coast, there is a risk we could actually increase salinity of the ocean over a long enough period of time and artificially remove fresh water from the ocean,

02:14:04.000 creating an ecological imbalance which would kill off massive fisheries.

02:14:08.000 The idea just does not work.

02:14:10.000 Yeah, dumping it back in for sure is not the way. 0.98

02:14:13.000 That's like shitting back in the faucet.

02:14:15.000 What theoretically could work better is actually just creating irrigation channels, which result in deep inland evaporation and precipitation.

02:14:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:14:25.000 And then what do you guys think about silver iodide cloud seeding?

02:14:28.000 The issue is you're not creating more water that already exists.

02:14:34.000 So it's not the worst thing in the world.

02:14:36.000 The issue is how do we get water from one area to another?

02:14:39.000 California produces very little water.

02:14:41.000 So they're taking all the Colorado River water.

02:14:43.000 Which is causing problems.

02:14:44.000 Then, because of the population size, they have to drill into groundwater.

02:14:49.000 And Tulare County has actually been sinking because of how much groundwater they pump out, which is very, very, very, very bad.

02:14:55.000 It'll never come back.

02:14:56.000 It takes hundreds of thousands of years to bring the groundwater back.

02:14:59.000 Oh, man.

02:15:00.000 I know I have this fantasy about pumping fresh water into the earth.

02:15:03.000 Once we have enough that we can, we need to start pumping it back in.

02:15:07.000 And that will prevent earthquakes and stuff.

02:15:08.000 Take a look at the Sierra Desert.

02:15:09.000 It was once green.

02:15:12.000 So, what do you do, right?

02:15:14.000 So, you look at the Nile, you can see how, like, How they're trying to artificially create farmland and stuff.

02:15:21.000 There's no organic matter to create arable land because there's not been enough water.

02:15:25.000 And here's what people need to understand arable land is dead organisms.

02:15:30.000 Where we are in the United States with all of our farmland, you have thousands of years of life dying and creating a soil layer.

02:15:38.000 That allows more advanced, or however we don't describe it, more complex forms of life to grow in the corpses of bacteria and dead animals from 100,000 years ago.

02:15:48.000 So in places like the Sahara, You can't just put water and expect life to emerge in the short term.

02:15:53.000 That's why, even in these areas where you have like these reservoirs, there's nothing growing.

02:15:57.000 You can see in some areas where they are, it's really cool actually.

02:16:00.000 If you, let me try and find some of these farms they built right here.

02:16:03.000 They've artificially created these farms.

02:16:05.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:16:06.000 But you can see you need an organic base layer with the proper minerals to actually farm.

02:16:06.000 Right.

02:16:12.000 Oh, so do they just take away the sand and there's arable land on it?

02:16:16.000 No.

02:16:17.000 They have to bring the soil and all of it, the topsoil.

02:16:20.000 Because the sand has killed whatever was under it.

02:16:22.000 Oh, just rocks.

02:16:23.000 Some plants can grow in these areas.

02:16:25.000 There's desert plants for sure.

02:16:26.000 But arable land, like soil, is a composition of organic matter.

02:16:32.000 I thought this sand, I still think it came from the ocean during the flood.

02:16:36.000 A lot of it was striated.

02:16:37.000 You see it pushed up onto the side.

02:16:39.000 You see, I also want to stress this.

02:16:40.000 It would indicate there's dirt underneath it, but maybe it was just.

02:16:43.000 Look at this.

02:16:44.000 Alwig, right?

02:16:45.000 In the middle of the Sahara.

02:16:46.000 Ain't nobody there. 0.99

02:16:47.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 0.97

02:16:49.000 I zoom in on Alwig and there's none there, right? 1.00

02:16:52.000 Quat run.

02:16:53.000 There's actually people, look at this, farms.

02:16:55.000 Whoa.

02:16:56.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:16:57.000 Look at this, a city here, dude.

02:16:58.000 Could you imagine living right there, just in the middle of the Sahara in Libya?

02:17:05.000 No, but because of our immigration policies, a lot of people who live there can envision living here.

02:17:10.000 Yeah.

02:17:10.000 How many people from this town do you think are in America?

02:17:12.000 I think they're watching quite a number.

02:17:15.000 Too many.

02:17:15.000 They might be doing it right now.

02:17:17.000 Yeah.

02:17:17.000 They're tuning in.

02:17:19.000 Crazy, man.

02:17:19.000 Well, let's grab some callers and we'll start with stuck in Illinois.

02:17:23.000 Sorry to hear it.

02:17:26.000 Thanks for taking my call, Tim.

02:17:28.000 Me too, man.

02:17:29.000 I'm sort of around your area where you grew up.

02:17:32.000 I was from Park Forest, Illinois, which is a far south suburb.

02:17:36.000 And now I'm out in Batavia.

02:17:38.000 But I've driven through your neighborhood many times, man, at least your area.

02:17:38.000 Oh, okay.

02:17:42.000 Go to Villa Rosa.

02:17:45.000 Villa Rosa Pizzeria on Archer Avenue.

02:17:48.000 Nope.

02:17:49.000 Not familiar with that one.

02:17:50.000 I was even further south down on Route 30.

02:17:53.000 I'm just saying go there.

02:17:55.000 Oh, go there.

02:17:56.000 I'm on Carnivore, man.

02:17:56.000 Yeah, you go there.

02:17:58.000 Pizza's not in my cheap plan yet for.

02:18:01.000 Well, I'm smart.

02:18:02.000 You just eat the cheese and the pepperoni.

02:18:04.000 Yeah, that's what I do. 0.99

02:18:07.000 Damn, that sounds good. 0.99

02:18:09.000 What's going on, brother? 0.99

02:18:10.000 Yeah.

02:18:11.000 Well, this question's for Theo.

02:18:12.000 You know, I'm sure it hasn't improved much since you were in the Trump admin, but I've always been curious or I don't know, worked myself up mentally about it. 0.91

02:18:25.000 But how much of an impact for the Neocon never trumper contingent and then the. 0.86

02:18:36.000 I want to play a friendly, proper game of checkers while I watch the left play murder ball type of Republican. 0.92

02:18:43.000 Well, murder ball is good for paraplegics.

02:18:46.000 Yeah, it is. 1.00

02:18:50.000 It induces rage when I think about these types of people.

02:18:53.000 But how big of an impact are they on getting legislation and getting investigations and just getting things done, at least the MAGA type of agenda?

02:19:08.000 In DC.

02:19:09.000 I mean, like, we have such a slim majority in the House.

02:19:14.000 It just seems like these people can just sabotage any meaningful legislation since we have to have the votes.

02:19:22.000 So I just wanted to get your perspective on that.

02:19:25.000 Yeah.

02:19:25.000 I mean, I'm known for being pretty dark by disposition.

02:19:30.000 And I mean, I'll just tell you, like, in the 45 in the White House, there were like, I think, you know, a buddy of mine would say there was maybe at tops, like, 10 of us who were actually on board with the MAGA agenda who worked there.

02:19:44.000 So our ranks are not that great.

02:19:47.000 And then when you look at Congress, this is why I say it's like one of the darker takes on the Trump era we haven't done much to reconfigure the elected Republicans in Congress.

02:20:00.000 They're largely the same people who were there in the Bush years.

02:20:04.000 And sure, some of them have tried on new clothing and call themselves MAGA and they've got the red cap.

02:20:09.000 But most of them, their policy preferences are the same as they've always been.

02:20:13.000 And a good example of this is the Save America Act.

02:20:16.000 Like, it's just such an easy issue.

02:20:19.000 Prove your citizenship to vote.

02:20:21.000 Like, that's 80% popularity across the board in America.

02:20:24.000 And there's not any will, any will from Senate leadership to advance this piece of legislation.

02:20:31.000 And think of it they've got the richest dude in the world, they've got the president of the United States, they have 80% of the voting electorate saying, we need this, do it.

02:20:41.000 And what do they do?

02:20:42.000 They take a recess.

02:20:43.000 They say, ah, Senate procedure.

02:20:45.000 And just to give you like a little inside baseball here, one of the reasons why they haven't brought it forward is because they say, well, the Senate parliamentarian will strike it down if we try to attach it.

02:20:55.000 Who named the Senate parliamentarian?

02:20:56.000 Where did she come from?

02:20:57.000 She was appointed by Harry Reid, yeah, dude who's been dead for years, by a liberal Democrat from Nevada.

02:21:04.000 She was named to that job now 15 years ago, 16 years ago, and she's still in the gig. 0.99

02:21:08.000 If Republicans were serious, her ass would have been fired a long time ago. 0.99

02:21:12.000 So it just shows you excuses. 1.00

02:21:14.000 Excuses.

02:21:15.000 Very little has changed with the elected Republicans in Congress.

02:21:19.000 And that's one of the reasons why, as you kind of noted, and as Tim said, you know, last night, Hakeem Jeffries is playing for keeps.

02:21:25.000 He said it today.

02:21:26.000 Everything is on the table.

02:21:27.000 Everything.

02:21:28.000 And you can read into that what you want.

02:21:30.000 If he said everything, that means murder. 0.84

02:21:33.000 He said, it means rape.

02:21:34.000 He said, everything is on the table.

02:21:36.000 And they're playing for keeps.

02:21:38.000 And Republicans say, well, we got to follow procedure.

02:21:40.000 They say, slow down there, Democrats.

02:21:44.000 I mean, do you get a sense?

02:21:45.000 I don't know how much you're still plugged in, but do you think, I can't imagine much has changed.

02:21:50.000 And as bad as the House is, I mean, the Senate is like the ultimate scummery from both sides.

02:21:56.000 But I guess this sort of just underscores how much we can't be.

02:22:03.000 Black pill, no matter how bad and feckless the Republicans are, especially in the primaries, we've got to get better candidates in.

02:22:13.000 I guess if Elon could bankroll some good Republicans for 2028 so we can get these guys out, I mean, it seems to be the only way forward.

02:22:22.000 It's not like the Democrat Party is going to ever change.

02:22:26.000 No, I agree.

02:22:28.000 Yeah, I think what Tim was saying earlier is exactly right.

02:22:31.000 Democrats are just going to move further and further and further left.

02:22:34.000 They are going to.

02:22:34.000 The social.

02:22:35.000 Social justice Democrats is just a polite way of saying basically Maoists.

02:22:39.000 So, yeah.

02:22:41.000 And so, and one way of looking at this, just think about this conceptually would Connecticut or Hawaii ever elect a moderate Democrat?

02:22:49.000 Like, no.

02:22:50.000 But you look at some of the reddest states in America and they elect moderate, sort of rhino, cuck, use whatever pejorative you want to use Republicans who, you know, want to do bipartisan deals and are there just to hang out and be a U.S. senator.

02:23:07.000 The leftist states in the union are all about maximizing ideological outcomes.

02:23:13.000 The rightist states in the union basically elect people who are just there to be in the club.

02:23:18.000 And I think that asymmetry is why you see the Save America Act just die on the vine.

02:23:26.000 Cool.

02:23:27.000 Thank you guys for taking my call.

02:23:28.000 And I'll pass on thanks for my mom.

02:23:31.000 She lives with me for medical reasons, but she and I watch the show.

02:23:35.000 So you got a 73 year old grandma, Tim.

02:23:37.000 Right on.

02:23:39.000 Thanks for watching.

02:23:40.000 And thanks for calling in, brother.

02:23:42.000 Thanks, guys.

02:23:44.000 Take care.

02:23:45.000 Next up, we've got Warlock at Mentomori.

02:23:52.000 That is correct, Tim.

02:23:53.000 And I just want to say thank you guys for taking my call.

02:23:56.000 I've been a longtime fan, and I hope to stir up some controversy with my question.

02:24:02.000 All right.

02:24:04.000 So, this is a question for the whole panel, and it has to do with the moral responsibility we have as a society.

02:24:13.000 When do we step forward?

02:24:14.000 In to help people who are on a negative trail where they're seeking to harm themselves and it leads to an eventual end that isn't preferable.

02:24:27.000 You mean, like, do we stop someone from committing suicide?

02:24:31.000 So, not directly suicide.

02:24:35.000 I would say that is one of the cases where we should step in.

02:24:39.000 More people going towards ideology that is ruining their brains.

02:24:44.000 Kind of rotting them from the inside out, and it only has one conclusion where they can't be saved.

02:24:51.000 There's no easy way to that line.

02:24:53.000 So, I think it's a sliding scale for who you are saying we as.

02:24:57.000 So, if this is your friend, then you get involved a lot sooner than if this was just some acquaintance of yours, different from if it's your parents, different if it's your siblings.

02:25:07.000 If you're asking from the standpoint of the government, when should the government get involved?

02:25:11.000 They'd have to be pretty far down the rabbit hole, if at all, that I think the government should get involved in this, uh, something like this.

02:25:17.000 I think this isn't a problem for.

02:25:18.000 The government in particular, I think it's a problem for civil society to deal with.

02:25:22.000 And we always look to government, I think, to solve some of these issues, but we can do them in civil society through different institutions that exist beyond the government, like churches and different community groups.

02:25:34.000 So I think, you know, on the personal level, it depends on how close you are with the person.

02:25:39.000 I mean, the truth is, we just need a strong moral society to say we're going to do it.

02:25:44.000 The consequences be damned. 0.85

02:25:45.000 Like, if there's some dude who says, I'm going to chop my hand off because I've got body dysmorphic disorder, you stop him. 0.98

02:25:51.000 And when people are like, we're going to trans the kids, you stop him.

02:25:54.000 The problem is. 0.99

02:25:56.000 I think people who have strong virtues tend to be less willing to engage in conflict than people without them.

02:26:05.000 So when you look historically at every single country, they always just degrade until they collapse completely into, you know, Sodom and Gomorrah esque degeneracy.

02:26:15.000 And then from the ashes, the strong rise up. 1.00

02:26:18.000 I'm thinking about the transing stuff. 0.99

02:26:20.000 No conservative. 1.00

02:26:21.000 Actually, abortion is a really great example.

02:26:24.000 Let me ask you are you pro life?

02:26:26.000 Okay.

02:26:26.000 Yeah.

02:26:27.000 Do you think abortion is murder?

02:26:28.000 Yeah.

02:26:29.000 If you saw, if you were walking down the street and you saw a woman on a bed pregnant and a doctor had the forceps and he said, I am now going to kill the baby, would you shoot the doctor?

02:26:44.000 Well, I, you know, the taking, that's a classic sort of moral kind of, Bernard Williams, the classic moral ethicist, he lays out that scenario.

02:26:54.000 I think what you have to do is you body rush the doctors and you use something short of murder.

02:26:59.000 To prevent the murder of another innocent.

02:27:02.000 But see, the problem with this is this is the justification.

02:27:08.000 I'll put it this way. 0.97

02:27:09.000 If you saw a man standing over a woman holding a knife and he said, Now you die, would you shoot him? 0.99

02:27:16.000 No question. 1.00

02:27:17.000 I'd shoot him. 1.00

02:27:17.000 You'd shoot him. 1.00

02:27:18.000 But if the doctor says, And now you die, and he goes to put the forceps in, you say, I would tackle him? 0.99

02:27:23.000 There's a clear moral distinction between these two acts.

02:27:25.000 And for that reason, conservatives are unwilling to.

02:27:30.000 Despite agreeing that abortion is murder because taking of an innocent life, they're unwilling to take the same action in different circumstances.

02:27:38.000 That alone, I think, is indicative of integrity. 0.53

02:27:41.000 It's indicative of an attempt to protect, but it also means that the communists.

02:27:48.000 They're bloodthirsty.

02:27:48.000 Yeah.

02:27:51.000 They're under no illusions. 0.92

02:27:53.000 They will just kill you if you're in the way.

02:27:55.000 And look, this is your reference to Spain a moment ago. 0.69

02:27:55.000 Yeah. 0.69

02:27:58.000 Like, this is the difference between Franco and a lot of.

02:28:02.000 The people we have now, which is Franco saw the unrepentant slaughter of innocent nuns, of the clergy, of innocent monarchists, and said, Yeah, we'll bring the same fight to them until they quit.

02:28:16.000 And they called him a fascist.

02:28:17.000 They called him evil.

02:28:18.000 And then when he died, the country just reverted to peace and democracy.

02:28:23.000 Under a king, under a monarch, is that what it is?

02:28:25.000 It was a military dictatorship.

02:28:26.000 He said the communists are taking over.

02:28:27.000 So he got a bunch of troops, got his buddies together.

02:28:29.000 They went, had a civil war, won it.

02:28:32.000 And then said, We're a dictatorship now, but built the structure so that it could convert into a republic, a democratic, republican kind of system.

02:28:41.000 And then when he died, it just sort of became that.

02:28:44.000 There was no economic collapse, no great mass murder.

02:28:46.000 He just went, And now I die.

02:28:48.000 And they said, Okay, shall we vote?

02:28:50.000 To answer your question a little bit, too, about ideologies, if you can, how to help people or when you should step in when someone has a poisoned ideology, that takes me to the root ideology of fear.

02:29:01.000 When you know someone that's living in fear, the antidote isn't to make them stop.

02:29:07.000 Because you can't make someone stop being afraid.

02:29:09.000 You can make them brave by being brave.

02:29:12.000 You make them smoke the whole carton. 0.97

02:29:14.000 So if someone's like, I'm trans, be like, okay, we're doing it right now. 1.00

02:29:17.000 I'm going to chop off your dick and we're going to get it done. 1.00

02:29:19.000 And they're like, wait, stop. 1.00

02:29:20.000 Like, now you see that.

02:29:20.000 No.

02:29:22.000 Maybe, but making crazier people crazier might not.

02:29:26.000 It might work in some circumstances.

02:29:26.000 I don't know.

02:29:27.000 Well, the Democrats.

02:29:28.000 In a lot of circumstances, just yelling, stop being afraid, isn't the way to make someone brave, you know?

02:29:32.000 So you have to, like, be the change.

02:29:35.000 Let me ask you guys a question.

02:29:36.000 All right.

02:29:38.000 Every single human is, by an act of God, placed before two buttons a red button and a blue button.

02:29:46.000 If at least 50% of people press the blue button, everyone lives.

02:29:52.000 If more than 50% press the red button, anyone who presses the blue button will die.

02:29:59.000 Which button do you press?

02:30:00.000 The blue button.

02:30:01.000 Why?

02:30:02.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:30:03.000 My life's already forfeit.

02:30:04.000 The red button.

02:30:05.000 Okay, what do you think?

02:30:06.000 Red or blue?

02:30:07.000 Blue.

02:30:07.000 What do you think?

02:30:08.000 Blue.

02:30:09.000 I used to think blue, now I think red.

02:30:10.000 My initial gut reaction was blue.

02:30:12.000 And then I thought about it and I said, ah, red is actually the answer.

02:30:16.000 What's the downside of red if you don't get 50%?

02:30:19.000 If you press, no.

02:30:20.000 So there's no bad thing to happen to red. 0.90

02:30:23.000 Well, then everyone would choose red. 1.00

02:30:23.000 Well, you're a murderer. 1.00

02:30:25.000 There's no risk involved. 0.99

02:30:26.000 No, some people would choose blue.

02:30:27.000 You guys all chose blue.

02:30:28.000 Yeah, but I didn't recognize there was no down.

02:30:30.000 I thought you died if you picked red.

02:30:31.000 The blue vaulting.

02:30:32.000 Oh, only 50% of people survive.

02:30:36.000 If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone lives.

02:30:40.000 And what's the downside to blue?

02:30:42.000 That if you press the blue button, but 50% or more press the red button, you will die.

02:30:47.000 Yeah.

02:30:48.000 So the moral dilemma is will you be willing to risk your own life to save other people who are also risking their life to save other people?

02:30:56.000 100%.

02:30:57.000 Here's the problem with that.

02:30:58.000 See, I first said blue, but the presumption you're making is that Sudanese and Somalis are going to vote to protect you. 0.95

02:31:04.000 Yeah, which I know they're not, but it's still, it's so then the population. 0.86

02:31:08.000 You can reframe the question in a way in which everybody immediately chooses the red button.

02:31:13.000 So let me ask you another question.

02:31:15.000 Every single human is standing above, around a gigantic planet sized meat grinder.

02:31:23.000 If you jump in, you will die.

02:31:25.000 But if at least half of all of humans jump in, It will jam the machine and everyone will be unharmed.

02:31:33.000 Do you jump in the meat grinder?

02:31:35.000 Exactly.

02:31:35.000 What's the downside of not jumping in?

02:31:36.000 There's none.

02:31:37.000 Everyone who jumps in dies.

02:31:39.000 Yeah, but why would anyone jump in then?

02:31:40.000 You have to say, like, no one jumps in, everyone dies.

02:31:42.000 The moral dilemma with the blue button separates people from what they should fear, what the consequence is.

02:31:48.000 The presumption of death, they say, well, I don't see the death.

02:31:48.000 What is it?

02:31:51.000 If you say there's a room full of lions that haven't eaten in three days and they're hungry, you can choose to go in the room.

02:31:59.000 If at least 50% of humans go in the room, the lions all get scared and run away. 0.99

02:32:03.000 It's like, well, don't go in the fucking room with the lions. 1.00

02:32:06.000 And here's the point the point is this should it not be that someone stupid enough to go into the room with lions should die? 0.99

02:32:13.000 So, Tim, if I may, that actually cuts a lot to my point because I used to be a couple years ago very much like we have to save everyone. 0.99

02:32:23.000 And as I've gotten a little bit older, even though I'm young and dumb at just 24, I've come to the conclusion that there are just those so determined to rot in sickness and they want to burn everything around them that.

02:32:38.000 It is not our job to save them because part of being saved is you have to choose to be saved.

02:32:44.000 I think society's purpose and government's purpose is to protect the majority and commit the best good to the majority as possible.

02:32:44.000 I agree.

02:32:56.000 And I would say a lot, I'm far more in favor of society coming together and getting stronger bonds than government.

02:33:04.000 I don't want a strong government with a lot of authority on everyone.

02:33:09.000 I would rather we hold each other accountable.

02:33:12.000 Then look to a machine that we then hold accountable to hold us accountable and gives us stuff.

02:33:19.000 It means that we're relying on it.

02:33:21.000 We should be reliant on each other and ourselves instead.

02:33:24.000 One of the problems that we have as humanity, and it may actually be a function of evolution, humanity, and adaptation, is that let's say you're in a ship and you're sailing in the seven seas and you crash on an island and there's 10 people.

02:33:39.000 You go, okay, we're crashed.

02:33:41.000 No one knows we're here.

02:33:43.000 We better start getting to work.

02:33:44.000 We need shelter, we need food, and we need water.

02:33:46.000 And one guy lays back and says, let me know when you find it.

02:33:49.000 It doesn't work.

02:33:50.000 Then one guy shows up and says, I got fish.

02:33:53.000 One guy shows up and says, I was able to fill up some buckets full of water.

02:33:56.000 And another guy goes, While you were all away, the rest of us built this great shelter.

02:34:00.000 Then the guy was sitting back doing nothing, walks over and says, Gimme.

02:34:03.000 No.

02:34:04.000 What happens if you give me that guy?

02:34:06.000 If you say, Okay.

02:34:08.000 Tomorrow. 0.99

02:34:08.000 If you give him to it once, they'll continue asking and they'll be a parasite. 0.99

02:34:13.000 Tomorrow, they'll go back to laying down and doing nothing.

02:34:17.000 And then everyone's working extra, saying, We don't want him to die, though.

02:34:21.000 You do that for 50 years, and that guy has kids.

02:34:25.000 Gets married, and now his kids are all sitting around going, gimme, gimme.

02:34:29.000 This is what we have done in America, and we're reaching the inflection point where we have more gimmies than givers.

02:34:36.000 This means eventually people are going to say, I'm sorry, but I have nothing left to give.

02:34:41.000 And then what happens?

02:34:42.000 The people go, gimme, scream, stab, murder, and steal.

02:34:47.000 So actually, the people who want to jump in the meat grinder, let them do it.

02:34:52.000 The people smart enough not to.

02:34:54.000 The presumption with the red and blue moral dilemma question.

02:34:56.000 That I had when I said blue was I imagined in my mind me and all my friends together pressing a button.

02:35:02.000 And then I saw a post where someone said, Why would Somalis protect me?

02:35:06.000 And I went, Right.

02:35:08.000 We are not our community.

02:35:09.000 I must trust that my community is smart enough not to jump in a meat grinder.

02:35:12.000 I think the blue button people are thinking more about the killing people, and the red button people are thinking more of surviving.

02:35:20.000 Yeah, the red button in that theory or in that postulation didn't have any downside.

02:35:25.000 If everyone presses the red button, no one dies.

02:35:27.000 So the question is, Why did you jump in a meat grinder in the first place?

02:35:30.000 This is two metaphors.

02:35:32.000 If you're the blue button guy, you're thinking that by hitting the red, I might be killing other people.

02:35:38.000 Right.

02:35:39.000 That's what you think like.

02:35:39.000 Indeed.

02:35:40.000 That's the thought. 0.98

02:35:41.000 So the issue is someone drew a picture in Paintbrush where it's a bunch of blue people standing under a hydraulic press, and the red people are going, Guys, get out from underneath that. 0.90

02:35:54.000 And they go, You've killed us. 0.76

02:35:56.000 It's like you chose to press the meat grinder button. 0.64

02:35:58.000 Don't look at me.

02:36:00.000 Well, you guys are the meat grinder people.

02:36:01.000 So, I mean, my first thought was when that guy was like, Gimme, I was like, We all go walk to the beach to go work, and we're like, we know where our next meal is now.

02:36:10.000 He's sitting under the tree. 0.99

02:36:11.000 We're going to go kill him and eat him. 1.00

02:36:13.000 We're not going to give him anything. 1.00

02:36:14.000 He's not going to work. 1.00

02:36:14.000 He's going to die, and we're going to eat him. 1.00

02:36:16.000 So that's my take on the fat, lazy guy. 1.00

02:36:19.000 But I'm not saying in society we need to slaughter and eat all the useless eaters. 0.99

02:36:23.000 No, but at a certain point, you can't keep subsidizing people that only consume. 0.99

02:36:27.000 Yeah, Yuri, what not Yuri Bezeman off, but the useless eater thing.

02:36:30.000 What were you going to say?

02:36:31.000 I was going to say on the island situation, I don't know if you guys saw this riff recently about.

02:36:36.000 You know, Anthony Burgess, who wrote, or sorry, William Holding, who wrote Lord of the Flies, it was based on an account of young British boys who ended up on an island.

02:36:46.000 And what those boys actually did was exactly what Tim just described.

02:36:50.000 They like assigned tasks, they worked together collaboratively.

02:36:53.000 And that's a mark, really, of Western civilization.

02:36:56.000 Like that people come together to collaborate.

02:36:59.000 There's a moral ecology, there's like a virtue that's hardwired into the way we've been raised.

02:37:04.000 And it comes from winter.

02:37:05.000 The evolutionary, psychological, and biological theory is that.

02:37:09.000 The people who moved further north who chose not to work died in the winter.

02:37:14.000 The people who moved further north who worked industriously all year round survived, had kids, and created cities based on the ethos and genetic structure of I must work 24 7.

02:37:26.000 However, the people who came from areas where there was abundant year round food and didn't have to work sat around, they slept, they don't have to do anything.

02:37:34.000 You take these two different groups of people and put them in the same place, and you're going to have one group of people that works really hard and the other side saying, Gimme.

02:37:42.000 Yeah.

02:37:42.000 I think winter exacerbates the need for resources, which is really where that.

02:37:48.000 That human instinct comes from.

02:37:50.000 We group up, we collaborate to survive as a species because we're 10 times stronger together than we are alone.

02:37:56.000 You know, two people are 10 times more effective than one guy by himself.

02:38:00.000 Funny enough, they're more than two times more effective.

02:38:03.000 So the winter can do that, can cause that desperation and force people to collaborate.

02:38:09.000 But in the Mediterranean, when there would be famines and things, you'd see a similar necessity break out.

02:38:14.000 And then, like, getting stranded on an island, you might see that same.

02:38:17.000 This is why. 0.96

02:38:19.000 Did you notice that every non white group of people has what's called time? 0.97

02:38:23.000 Black time, Hispanic time. 0.80

02:38:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:38:26.000 Hawaiian time.

02:38:27.000 Yep. 0.91

02:38:28.000 Because people who, white people, are people who have settled largely in wintery regions. 0.91

02:38:35.000 And then I go to Miami and they go, it's Miami time. 0.88

02:38:37.000 What does that mean?

02:38:38.000 It means everyone's late and no one works. 0.99

02:38:40.000 And I'm like, fuck that. 0.99

02:38:41.000 I don't want to live here anymore. 0.99

02:38:41.000 That's one of the reasons I don't want to be there. 0.99

02:38:44.000 And then you have what's called black time. 1.00

02:38:46.000 And I learned this from friends of mine in Chicago who are black.

02:38:49.000 And I was like, what's black time mean?

02:38:50.000 And they're like, you say 11 o'clock, we show up at noon.

02:38:53.000 And I'm like, why?

02:38:54.000 And they're like, yeah.

02:38:55.000 Or in the Middle East, it's really calm.

02:38:58.000 If you're not on time, you just say, it's what Allah willed.

02:39:00.000 I didn't get here.

02:39:02.000 Do they really do that?

02:39:03.000 They don't say that.

02:39:03.000 They say, mashallah.

02:39:05.000 Yeah.

02:39:06.000 Yeah.

02:39:07.000 Something like that.

02:39:07.000 Really?

02:39:08.000 I don't know anything about it.

02:39:09.000 How could they ever get anything done? 1.00

02:39:10.000 Whereas the Europeans live by themselves. 1.00

02:39:11.000 But that's exactly it, right? 1.00

02:39:13.000 I mean, it's if God wills it, that's how they get things done.

02:39:17.000 Caller, was there anything else you wanted to add or call a shout out?

02:39:21.000 I just want to go through and say, I am very appreciative of the community you guys have built.

02:39:26.000 It has provided a lot of hope.

02:39:28.000 And I do think we're on the right track as a society to go through towards a brighter future.

02:39:35.000 And like you've said before, Tim, the night is darkest before the dawn.

02:39:41.000 So I think it's important that we keep hope, but we also stay aware of what's going on so that we can work on building a better future.

02:39:50.000 But I also think we need to be prepared as a society to cut off.

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