Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - GOP Taking BACK California, Spencer Pratt SURGES In LA Mayoral Race | Timcast IRL

00:01:13.000 Spencer Pratt is surging in the Los Angeles mayoral election polls.

00:01:18.000 Things are heating up in Los Angeles.

00:01:20.000 You know, many have speculated that America can't truly be great unless Los Angeles is great.

00:01:24.000 And it is true.

00:01:25.000 It is the golden state, probably the most beautiful landscape in the entire world.

00:01:29.000 So it is true.

00:01:30.000 If America is going to be firing on all cylinders, we need California back.

00:01:33.000 So very encouraging to see Spencer Pratt again surging in the polls.

00:01:36.000 We're going to be getting into all of that.

00:01:38.000 And thankfully, I've got two Californians in to discuss all this and so much more.

00:01:42.000 Also, violent crime has been dropping rapidly all across the country.

00:01:46.000 The FBI has put new data out indicating that things have never been safer in the United States.

00:01:51.000 But many have pointed out anecdotally, it doesn't feel so safe.

00:01:55.000 So we're going to get into that.

00:01:56.000 We have one big story I think everyone probably knows.

00:01:59.000 So there's no sense reporting it because everyone can feel it food prices are soaring.

00:02:04.000 I don't know if you've been to the grocery store anytime soon, but you need to take like a second mortgage out to get a T bone.

00:02:09.000 I mean, it's unbelievable what's going on in this country.

00:02:12.000 We might invade Cuba.

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00:02:14.000 The fact that invading Cuba is the fourth story in the stack kind of tells you how things are.

00:02:18.000 How crazy things are getting in this country.

00:02:21.000 And then finally, I would argue the most important story, probably of the last month, is Hooters is going family friendly.

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00:04:09.000 I am your host, Tate Brown, here holding it down on this beautiful Friday.

00:04:13.000 Our valiant leader, Tim, is still out, but he will be back with us after the Memorial Day break.

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00:04:41.000 So with that, we are joined by some fantastic guests today.

00:04:43.000 First off, we got Josh Raynor.

00:04:45.000 What's up, man?

00:04:45.000 Dude, what's going on?

00:04:46.000 Who are you and what are you doing?

00:04:47.000 I'm just hanging out pretty much.

00:04:49.000 Yeah, let's go.

00:04:50.000 LA native, born and raised.

00:04:53.000 Always been into the fitness thing, and that was kind of my origins of posting.

00:04:59.000 And then, of course, COVID brought that weirdly into the political sphere, and can't avoid talking about it.

00:05:05.000 So now we're just trying to figure out how to save the country, save California, save Los Angeles.

00:05:11.000 I mean, the intersection between Maha and hard politics became very evident that there's direct crossover there.

00:05:11.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:17.000 Well, that was the weird thing seeing this, like all this blow up on the internet during the COVID time when this was just like my life for a decade plus.

00:05:26.000 Yeah.

00:05:27.000 I had been someone who just started working out when I was young with my dad, and then with sports and training and always got into weird diet stuff.

00:05:34.000 And I was drinking raw milk in college.

00:05:38.000 I got into the paleo thing and all that.

00:05:40.000 And I was, of course, a little hesitant about certain.

00:05:44.000 Pharmaceutical interventions.

00:05:46.000 And then all of a sudden, it became one of those things where it's like my lifestyle became a branded thing that all of a sudden everyone was talking about.

00:05:54.000 Yeah.

00:05:55.000 Which is kind of weird because then you kind of get like the hipster, like, hey, man, this is like, this is my thing, but also I'm glad it's spreading.

00:06:01.000 You just kind of don't know where it goes once it leaves kind of the people who sort of actually created it or like were kind of born and bred in it.

00:06:09.000 Well, it's what they call in the industry upstream.

00:06:11.000 You're very upstream from the discourse.

00:06:13.000 We got the great Rebecca Zelko joining us today.

00:06:15.000 Yes, hello.

00:06:16.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:06:17.000 Absolutely.

00:06:18.000 Yeah, who are you and what do you do?

00:06:20.000 I am the national correspondent for the Daily Caller, but I'm also a California native.

00:06:23.000 So I'm from Northern California, though.

00:06:25.000 So there might be some rivalry here today.

00:06:27.000 We're going to fight.

00:06:28.000 Yeah, we'll try to break up any brawl that's probably inevitable.

00:06:31.000 We have the great Chris Carr joining us.

00:06:33.000 I am a writer, journalist, editor, and former Californian who joined the mass exodus during COVID.

00:06:33.000 Yes, thank you.

00:06:39.000 Oh, man.

00:06:39.000 Let's see here.

00:06:40.000 We got two different camps here, I would say the stay in and the get out. 1.00

00:06:43.000 So we got Olivia Dasovic hanging out.

00:06:45.000 Yeah, hey guys.

00:06:45.000 I'm Olivia.

00:06:46.000 I run the Timcast Discord server here and.

00:06:50.000 Memberships, generally speaking, I help build the community here.

00:06:53.000 And we already gave away the game.

00:06:54.000 We got Carter on the helm.

00:06:55.000 Yeah, we gave it away here to represent and push some buttons and mix some audio.

00:07:00.000 So let's make a pretty sick show for everyone tonight.

00:07:03.000 Thanks for all of you coming.

00:07:04.000 I love it.

00:07:05.000 Well, let's jump straight into the news here.

00:07:06.000 This is from News Nation.

00:07:08.000 Spencer Pratt shakes up LA mayor's race with a hard stance on homelessness.

00:07:12.000 I mean, if anybody knows anything about Spencer Pratt, you've probably seen him ranting about the homeless, and that is long overdue.

00:07:18.000 The fact that this has not been addressed by now.

00:07:20.000 It's a full blown crisis.

00:07:21.000 I'll just read here from News Nation.

00:07:24.000 Spencer Pratt, best known for starring as a reality TV villain in MTV's The Hills 20 years ago, is an unlikely but promising candidate in the Los Angeles mayoral race.

00:07:34.000 The 42 year old has never held public office and has no political organization, making his long shot candidacy even longer.

00:07:42.000 He's a registered Republican in Los Angeles, where no Republican has been elected mayor since Pratt was 10 years old.

00:07:47.000 All of that makes it even more remarkable that Pratt is holding his own against the established opponents.

00:07:51.000 Polls show him on the heels of incumbent mayor Karen Bass, trailing by just eight percentage points in an Emerson College poll and ahead of the left leaning third candidate, Nithya Rahman.

00:08:01.000 Now, of course, Nithya Rahman was leading in the polls for quite a long time.

00:08:04.000 People were speculating she might be the West Coast Zoran.

00:08:07.000 Well, Spencer Pratt had something to say about that.

00:08:09.000 And Spencer Pratt has been stitching together one of the most impressive campaigns I think we've all seen in quite a long time.

00:08:15.000 A lot of people say, you know, there's kind of shades of Donald Trump here, not so much on policy, but more so with the fact that he's just kind of relatable in a really strange way.

00:08:23.000 You know, we're not used to relating.

00:08:25.000 To politicians in this country.

00:08:27.000 But there's just something about Spencer Pratt.

00:08:29.000 I mean, he's putting up pictures like this.

00:08:30.000 He had a rally the other day in South Central Los Angeles.

00:08:33.000 You know, this is a place where it'd be unthinkable that a Republican could ever penetrate in any meaningful way.

00:08:37.000 And if you go and watch the photos and videos from the event, everyone was loving them.

00:08:41.000 I mean, it's really unbelievable stuff.

00:08:43.000 Obviously, in the polls, as the article noted, there are many polls coming out over the last few weeks that indicate he's neck to neck with Karen Bass.

00:08:49.000 This poll is obviously, you know, factoring in all the candidates because first in Los Angeles, they'll have a jungle primary.

00:08:55.000 So everyone runs in the first primary.

00:08:57.000 And then the top two candidates advance to a runoff election.

00:09:00.000 And right now, it looks like Spencer Pratt's going to head into a runoff election with Karen Bass with quite a lot of undecided voters.

00:09:07.000 And those are probably Spencer Pratt's to lose.

00:09:10.000 Because again, I think everyone in Los Angeles at this point either loves or hates Karen Bass.

00:09:16.000 We had this article coming out, a few different outlets picked up on this.

00:09:20.000 Trump is supporting Spencer Pratt in the LA mayor's race, but it may be a poison pill.

00:09:25.000 Some have pointed out that part of the reason Spencer Pratt seems to be doing so well in this race is because his entire campaign is actually quite detached from national storylines.

00:09:35.000 I mean, this is a guy where every single word that comes out of his mouth is about Los Angeles, and that's why it's such a breath of fresh air.

00:09:41.000 Many have Feared that if Trump gets too involved here, it might spook LA voters when it comes time to cast a vote for Spencer Pratt.

00:09:49.000 I think we should just get right into the meat and potatoes here.

00:09:51.000 I got to ask the two California natives, maybe Josh can really speak to this being a Los Angeles County native.

00:09:57.000 Do you think Spencer Pratt has a chance?

00:09:59.000 It's a very, very real chance.

00:10:01.000 And that's the thing that we kind of have to get away from and people on the right just dooming all the time.

00:10:05.000 Like, we're never going to win.

00:10:06.000 This is owned by this and that.

00:10:08.000 Like, he's clearly going to make it through the primary.

00:10:12.000 And he has a very real chance of winning out right now.

00:10:15.000 Especially because of all the votes that all the other Democrat or left leaning candidates are pulling from Bass.

00:10:21.000 So you're kind of getting everyone who's against what's going on and been going on is going to lean more towards Spencer Pratt, unless they're like hardcore leftists who would be going for like outright communist type thing.

00:10:34.000 But it's very legitimate.

00:10:36.000 And that's why, whenever people are blackpilling, especially online, it's like we need to motivate everyone to vote who even has a slight inkling of because every single one of those votes matters.

00:10:46.000 Sorry, I have a question quick.

00:10:48.000 I think there's this perception of LA.

00:10:49.000 I've never lived in California.

00:10:50.000 I've never been to LA.

00:10:52.000 Is it as lefty? 0.86

00:10:53.000 A lot of people there are as lefty and crazy as people make them out to be, or are there a lot of people? 0.70

00:10:58.000 Not at all. 0.76

00:10:58.000 No, not at all. 0.76

00:10:59.000 And that's the thing about it because everyone assumes California, Los Angeles, it's the most left leaning place basically in the whole country.

00:11:07.000 But Los Angeles County has more Republicans than any other county in the entire country.

00:11:12.000 Huh?

00:11:13.000 It's just population.

00:11:14.000 Population.

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:15.000 California has more Republicans than any other state.

00:11:18.000 Right.

00:11:18.000 So, what you're talking about is, yes, a blue dominated state and city, but with tons of unrepresented Republicans or white wingers.

00:11:29.000 And not only that, but our liberals and Republicans are not like the rest of the country.

00:11:33.000 You know, it's like our Republicans aren't like Bible Belt Republicans and our liberals aren't like Portland liberals.

00:11:40.000 Yeah.

00:11:40.000 Right.

00:11:41.000 Everyone is kind of more towards the center.

00:11:43.000 And it's funny, like you wouldn't think this at first, but the kind of vanity, That people have from being in Los Angeles grounds them in reality because the actual, like, it's your appearance is tied to actually like what you do as opposed to a stated belief or principle.

00:11:59.000 So, like, you can virtue signal all you want, and of course, they do.

00:12:02.000 We've all seen the Oscars where they say this and that, but at the end of the day, like, your meal ticket in Los Angeles is like your looks, and you can only go so far with the insane stuff before you just start to look like a freak, yeah.

00:12:14.000 And so, weirdly enough, the people who live in La La Land are grounded.

00:12:20.000 Oddly enough, in reality, somehow.

00:12:21.000 I mean, that makes sense because I mean, you know, it's always been my analysis that the Northern California and Southern California liberals are quite different, where it seems like the ones in Northern California are a bit more prone to activism, these sorts of things, where it seems more cultural in Southern California.

00:12:34.000 I mean, can you attest to this at all?

00:12:35.000 Yeah, fact check true.

00:12:36.000 I would also say that, like, the article is, I thought it was really interesting that they had the line saying that his lack of political experience was going to be a disadvantage to him, where, like, we're now at least, that might have been the case traditionally, but, like, we're kind of in the age where, yeah, like, not coming from that traditional, like, you know, Career politician background is actually a positive thing.

00:12:57.000 Like, populist politics is super, is definitely on the rise.

00:13:00.000 They likened that one candidate to Zorhan Mamdani, but if anything, Pratt has more of that sort of Mamdani strategy because he is only talking about Los Angeles.

00:13:08.000 He's, I think, I think he's made a smart decision to not necessarily tether himself to like the national MAGA brand of politics because at the end of the day, he's trying to win in Los Angeles.

00:13:19.000 And so I think as long as he kind of keeps that distance, also him being, you know, a reality TV star, that kind of makes him qualified in a unique way to run such a unique city where like that is such a huge part of the industry.

00:13:31.000 And I feel like because he's a Republican, but also because he has this background in reality TV, it kind of gives people in the industry.

00:13:40.000 Or who pay attention to that industry permission to vote for a Republican because he's like from their world, which I think makes it a really interesting race to follow.

00:13:48.000 A lot of celebrities are kind of like breaking from the traditional like lefty slant with this a lot too.

00:13:54.000 Yeah.

00:13:55.000 I saw something where he was like, I guess like Leonardo DiCaprio and like Jamie Foxx were like talking to him about like things that they would want to see done.

00:14:04.000 Yeah.

00:14:05.000 Which means that they either think he can win or secretly voting for him.

00:14:09.000 And I think we're also going to see a lot of people who.

00:14:12.000 Are hesitant to state their support for him until, like, you kind of get that threshold breaking point where then they feel safe to do that.

00:14:19.000 And so he's very, very smart with sort of like, yeah, I'm a registered Republican, but like, I'm not running as a Republican, you know?

00:14:19.000 Yeah.

00:14:25.000 And because you don't actually, it's not, it's not a partisan race in the first place.

00:14:30.000 And, you know, he's like, mad, whatever.

00:14:32.000 It's like, it's just not my problem.

00:14:34.000 I'm focused on LA.

00:14:35.000 He's like super oracle, too.

00:14:37.000 Like, I think that his, again, just to talk about like the fact that he has so much experience on TV.

00:14:42.000 That translates super well in politics.

00:14:44.000 Yeah.

00:14:45.000 TV ads are so effective.

00:14:46.000 They're really entertaining and memorable. 0.98

00:14:48.000 Whereas, like, pretty much any other, like, chud that does, that runs for PopFest is like doing the most scripted, you know, TV ad. 1.00

00:14:56.000 And it's just like voters, for the most part, can see right through it and it just doesn't sit right with them. 1.00

00:15:00.000 But when you see Spencer Pratt being like, yep, they burned my house down too, yeah, literally.

00:15:04.000 Super effective.

00:15:05.000 Republicans have a huge aura problem.

00:15:05.000 Yeah.

00:15:07.000 It's been a huge, and it's like legit.

00:15:08.000 Major aura deficit.

00:15:09.000 Yeah.

00:15:10.000 And it's actually like a legit thing in politics.

00:15:10.000 Real.

00:15:12.000 And so, Spencer Pratt, this is why people say he reminds me of Trump.

00:15:14.000 I'm like, I don't think he reminds, People of Trump in any way, except for the fact that he actually has like a bit of like gravitas.

00:15:19.000 Like he actually has no filter, I think.

00:15:21.000 Yeah.

00:15:21.000 Like you feel like when he was on that debate stage that you were in on the joke with them.

00:15:25.000 Like he sees how crazy this all is.

00:15:27.000 And then you and the audience are like, yeah, this is crazy.

00:15:29.000 And then he breaks the fourth wall.

00:15:30.000 So that's like the screen presence thing that him and Trump have.

00:15:33.000 And also like what you're saying, familiarity with being on camera.

00:15:33.000 Yeah.

00:15:36.000 Because, you know, people think of Trump as, you know, they talk about him being a billionaire businessman, but it's like also like, remember, The Apprentice, like his reality show guy.

00:15:45.000 And so, you know, Trump, you know, Trump always talks about like central casting, like he understands like perception of things.

00:15:50.000 And so he's like, Trump's aware of where the camera is.

00:15:53.000 Yeah.

00:15:54.000 And even if it's not like super conscious, Spencer spent how much of his time, of his life on camera.

00:16:00.000 Right.

00:16:00.000 And eventually you just become used to it.

00:16:02.000 You understand kind of how to present yourself in such a way.

00:16:04.000 And it doesn't mean that it's fake.

00:16:06.000 It's actually, in a sense, the most real thing ever because he's cutting through the lens and going actually right to the person.

00:16:14.000 Because, you know, when you're saying when the traditional Republicans do their ads, it's like, I'm Mr. blah, blah, blah.

00:16:20.000 And it's like, it's like, Cool, man.

00:16:21.000 He's got like a snooze fest over his shoulder.

00:16:23.000 Yeah, it's just a golden retriever.

00:16:25.000 Everyone's totally checked out.

00:16:27.000 This feels like kind of fake and really performative. 0.99

00:16:30.000 And Spencer Pratt is just like, dude, they burned my fucking house down. 0.99

00:16:34.000 Yeah, literally. 0.97

00:16:35.000 You know, all this stuff you want to argue about politics, it's like we're not even talking about all this like weird and like the weird granular, crazy, like really, really like policy type stuff outside of basic reality crime, homeless, burning down.

00:16:49.000 Can we just like address the actual, just tangible, everything to be, Fixed and function to have a normal society before we ever have any of these other conversations.

00:16:58.000 You think that turns people off?

00:17:00.000 Like breaking that, right?

00:17:01.000 So, what we've seen is like, hi, I'm so and so running for office in your district, and he's not doing that.

00:17:07.000 You think that turns people off because it's almost like they don't.

00:17:09.000 It's like a.

00:17:10.000 Not in LA.

00:17:10.000 Certainly not in LA.

00:17:12.000 It's really interesting to me that you said, was it Leonardo DiCaprio is like asking them questions?

00:17:20.000 Like, he's famously not somebody who I would assume would vote for Spencer Craft because he's an LA guy.

00:17:26.000 Yeah, and there's two things going on here.

00:17:27.000 It's like, one, when you're running in a city, the average population is going to be a lot lower actually than if you're running in a primary in a random district because, again, Usually, those are going to be all elderly voters.

00:17:36.000 So, again, coming across as like kind of a safe square, again, that's going to play to an elderly voter base who's going to get you through a primary.

00:17:42.000 Where Spencer Pratt's trying to win a general election in a city.

00:17:45.000 So, the average voting age in these elections are going to be younger.

00:17:48.000 So, he's kind of had to have a little extra edge to him.

00:17:51.000 And, yeah, to your point, I mean, it was like you can tell the consultants have not got to him because he was in that debate and the, you know, Zoran clone or whatever her name is was like, oh, you know, him and Karen Bass are teaming up because they want to run against me.

00:18:02.000 And he's like, what are you talking about?

00:18:04.000 I don't want to run against her. 0.87

00:18:05.000 She's an incumbent with like all the unions backing her.

00:18:07.000 Why would I want to run against her?

00:18:08.000 And I was listening, I was like, Thank you.

00:18:09.000 That's like the obvious answer.

00:18:11.000 You know, every Republican gets up and be like, I don't care who I run against.

00:18:14.000 I'm going to beat him and I'm going to take it.

00:18:15.000 And then it's like, he's like, no, I don't want to run against Karen Jackson.

00:18:17.000 When he ran for president the first time around and he was talking about special interests on stage.

00:18:22.000 And the whole audience was like, thank you for pointing out how obvious.

00:18:25.000 Because he's able to actually, like, I don't understand the argument that, like, he is this super, like, he's this billionaire, really successful.

00:18:32.000 But, like, he's not pretending to not be that.

00:18:34.000 Like, he's like, yep, I am.

00:18:36.000 But, like, I'm still going to do X, Y, and Z.

00:18:38.000 I kind of get the same vibe from Spencer.

00:18:40.000 Pratt, like he's not pretending to be like a traditional politician or, you know, he's not selling you something that he's not, you know, actually.

00:18:48.000 It's more authentic than any of the politicians.

00:18:50.000 He's just leaning into his own persona.

00:18:53.000 He's actually doing such a great job of going, I was the villain, right?

00:18:57.000 And, you know, part of the villain was like, I was called.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, I know who I am. 0.99

00:19:01.000 And part of like his villain angle, you know, it's kind of like calling everyone else his bullshit. 0.97

00:19:06.000 So he's like, I'm playing the villain, the TV villain, which is like the real life. 0.99

00:19:11.000 Good guy.

00:19:12.000 Yeah.

00:19:12.000 Because I'm brave enough to fight through these people who present themselves as the good people, but they're the villains.

00:19:19.000 They're the one causing all this terrible destruction.

00:19:22.000 And that's like, just like Trump, he's owning who he is.

00:19:25.000 You know, it's the last thing when someone accuses you of something, the last thing you can do, worst thing is get like super, super defensive.

00:19:31.000 So you have to find out how to either like, what do they say, like agree and amplify.

00:19:35.000 So he's just like, yeah, hell yeah.

00:19:35.000 Right.

00:19:35.000 Yeah.

00:19:38.000 And I'm going to get shit done because of that. 0.98

00:19:40.000 And that's like perfect. 0.99

00:19:41.000 Absolutely.

00:19:42.000 Yeah, he's really good at parrying those very canned attack lines. 0.58

00:19:46.000 It was so predictable when Nithya or whatever her name is got up and was like, he's a MAG Republican.

00:19:50.000 He just went, oh, because it's not even worth responding to.

00:19:52.000 Because the audience knows. 0.98

00:19:54.000 The audience aren't idiots necessarily. 0.82

00:19:55.000 But something was interesting, you pointed it out, Carter pointed it out, with a lot of these celebrities that are probably eager to get behind him and they're going to secretly support him, but they're not quite ready to go vocal. 0.86

00:20:03.000 I think part of it is because of the way the press has been handling his campaign.

00:20:06.000 This is in the Los Angeles Times.

00:20:07.000 They say Spencer Pratt's campaign spent more than $15,000 at Pricey Hotel Bel Air.

00:20:13.000 So, what's happening here is a lot of these guys are waiting for that permission piece to come out from the mainstream media, the California outlets.

00:20:19.000 They're waiting for a major outlet to come out and say, actually, it's okay to vote for Spencer Pratt.

00:20:23.000 Because I think they still are very conscious.

00:20:25.000 You know, everyone says, oh, the mainstream media is irrelevant.

00:20:27.000 For a lot of these people, they actually kind of wait for marching orders from institutions like the LA Times.

00:20:32.000 And the fact that the LA Times is the knives out for Spencer Pratt really says a lot about, well, A, Karen Bass's influence in the state.

00:20:38.000 But the fact that just because he has an R next to his name, he's completely unpalatable to like, you know, the mainstream media institutions.

00:20:44.000 So it's going to be kind of interesting to see what comes first.

00:20:46.000 Will the permission piece from the LA Times come first, or will it be a few celebrities just get up and say, you know what, screw it.

00:20:51.000 I'm voting for Spencer Pratt. 0.99

00:20:52.000 It's crazy that they're coming after him for staying in a hotel when his fucking house burned down. 1.00

00:20:57.000 It's like he wouldn't have to stay in a hotel if you guys did your fucking job. 1.00

00:21:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:01.000 And he had a house. 0.99

00:21:03.000 Yeah.

00:21:03.000 No.

00:21:03.000 So when they're trying to do, oh, like, but do you really live in the trailer?

00:21:06.000 It's like, this is my address.

00:21:08.000 My house is gone.

00:21:10.000 I'm here.

00:21:10.000 Right.

00:21:11.000 I'm there.

00:21:11.000 I'm there because I don't have a house anymore.

00:21:14.000 And that's just like, again, it cuts through everything.

00:21:16.000 And that's why it's like, he has like a perfect origin story.

00:21:19.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:21:19.000 Because it's like, he never would have, if everything had been normal, like the fire didn't happen, but everything else in California was like shit, who would we have? 0.98

00:21:28.000 You know, because we had Rick Caruso four years ago who ran like a, I mean, did anyone know about his campaign? 0.99

00:21:37.000 Los Angeles, right?

00:21:38.000 Like one of the top two most important cities in the whole country.

00:21:42.000 Did anyone anywhere nationwide know anything about this campaign?

00:21:46.000 No, he was just like, again, kind of a stuffy old rich business guy, real estate developer, and lifelong Republican, switched to Democrat so people would feel comfortable voting him.

00:21:56.000 Like some of my super liberal family members were like, well, he sounds reasonable and this and that.

00:22:01.000 And so they vote for him only because he has a D next to his name, though.

00:22:04.000 If it was an R, they wouldn't.

00:22:05.000 And he got like 45, 46% of the vote.

00:22:05.000 Right.

00:22:09.000 People are happy to vote for function if they don't have to like feel bad about it.

00:22:16.000 Yeah.

00:22:17.000 If you're constantly having to justify your vote, then you're going to struggle.

00:22:19.000 Well, so this is like the perfect thing about Pratt, though, is like Caruso does like the cuck thing where it's like, I put a D next to my name.

00:22:26.000 And now the people vote for me.

00:22:26.000 Yeah.

00:22:28.000 And again, Spratt's just like, okay, yeah, make me the villain, whatever.

00:22:31.000 I'm going to fix it, though.

00:22:33.000 And you kind of can't beat that kind of like bravado.

00:22:36.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:37.000 No, and I definitely, like, I think that there is always going to be a number of voters who just go with, like, name ID.

00:22:44.000 Like, Karen Bass has the recognition to be like, okay, a certain amount of people are definitely going to support her.

00:22:50.000 She's been there for so long, and, like, you know, people just kind of check the box. 0.89

00:22:54.000 There's a lot of lazy voters, just to be honest.

00:22:56.000 Not everyone is politically involved.

00:22:59.000 That being said, I do think that there are a lot of voters who are looking at the R next to Spencer Pratt's name, and, you know, but then they listen to everything else that he says, and they're like, this guy makes a lot of sense, but he's also, like, representing.

00:23:10.000 You know, what I think a lot of people in Los Angeles are feeling.

00:23:14.000 And it almost is kind of disqualifying at this point because of all of the dysfunction that has happened, not just in LA, but as I'm sure you know, like throughout all of California, to have already been in office and like to already have political experience.

00:23:26.000 It's kind of disqualifying because it's like you've already overseen the disaster for so long.

00:23:30.000 Why would we reelect you?

00:23:31.000 That's their biggest criticism is experience.

00:23:35.000 And his perfect comeback is look at Karen Bass's experience.

00:23:38.000 She experienced burn down her city, she experienced not being in the city while it was.

00:23:44.000 Burning down and then lying about it during a national debate and then getting brutally fact checked by like CNN of all people.

00:23:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't really want a politician with experience if that's their experience.

00:23:54.000 If that's their experience, yeah. 0.97

00:23:55.000 And to your point, I mean, and kind of one last point here is I mean, that's Karen Bass's weakness actually is the fact that all those undecided voters, they all know who she is.

00:24:03.000 That means that they're not willing to support her.

00:24:05.000 I mean, you know, she could maybe pick off 10% of them, but everyone in Los Angeles has an opinion on Karen Bass.

00:24:09.000 There's no one sitting around like, I don't know, I'm on the fence about her. 0.95

00:24:11.000 It's like everyone either loves her because they're retarded or they hate her because they have eyeballs. 0.98

00:24:16.000 So, With that, I'm going to get to this next story. 0.98

00:24:18.000 We're going to stay on the California topic here.

00:24:20.000 This is from KQED, like local paper, obviously, out of California.

00:24:24.000 Hilton and Becerra lead Democrats for final poll for California governor.

00:24:30.000 And California, the same way, LA, they have a jungle primary.

00:24:33.000 And what's funny is because initially these jungle primaries were set up in these deep blue states to keep Republicans out of the races.

00:24:38.000 They wanted it to be runoffs between two Democrats.

00:24:41.000 What they didn't factor in was that everyone would eventually start to hate them.

00:24:45.000 And what they additionally didn't factor in is if a bunch of Democrats ran, And then the Republican vote consolidated around one candidate, you would end up with a Republican on the ticket.

00:24:53.000 Now, as it stands right now, Xavier Becerra has taken the lead in polling.

00:25:00.000 Most of it's because Swahwell dropped out and he absorbed a lot of those potential voters.

00:25:04.000 So, for a while, you know, what was happening was Steve Hilton, a Republican, and then Chad Bianco, another Republican, were leading the polls.

00:25:10.000 And so people were like, could the runoff end up being two Californians?

00:25:13.000 Now, that's probably not going to happen.

00:25:15.000 But look, a lot of the vote is consolidating around Steve Hilton, where we could end up going to a runoff between Becerra and Steve Hilton.

00:25:21.000 Steve Hilton, a lot of people probably remember him.

00:25:23.000 He was on Fox News for a long time.

00:25:24.000 He's British.

00:25:25.000 He actually was in David Cameron's government over in the UK about 15 years ago.

00:25:30.000 But he's another one of these guys where he's media trained.

00:25:32.000 He's not nearly as kind of oracle, so to speak, as Spencer Pratt, but he's still kind of got a little bit of that it factor, just a little bit.

00:25:40.000 And he's obviously having to position himself in regards to national issues a bit more because he's running for governor of California.

00:25:47.000 But the fact that he's holding his own in these polls, I mean, it kind of goes back to the point.

00:25:50.000 I mean, California's still got some fight left in that.

00:25:53.000 Yeah.

00:25:53.000 I mean, that's like, That's what we're seeing is that people have had enough at some point.

00:25:58.000 So the Republicans are a little more invigorated themselves, but a lot of Democrats are kind of defecting in some way.

00:26:05.000 And so what's kind of crazy, though, is Newsom was coming out and saying that, you know, if it came down to two Republicans, it would be a sign of something, you know, illegitimate that he would have to intervene or something, which is, of course, you know, hilarious because we all know where the illegitimacy comes from.

00:26:21.000 But he's just admitting kind of like how.

00:26:25.000 Fraudulent and sneaky, the Democrats are.

00:26:28.000 But no, this is actually a very exciting time to be a Californian, being from Los Angeles.

00:26:31.000 Like, we actually have real possibility for anything.

00:26:36.000 And that should be more exciting than for us as Californians more than anything else that, like, there's a future here.

00:26:42.000 We don't need to abandon our home.

00:26:44.000 Yeah.

00:26:44.000 There's a lot of doom and gloom right now in the GOP, I feel like, especially when it comes to national politics.

00:26:49.000 And so it's a weird time to look at California and to, like, feel reinvigorated about the state and the trajectory of the Republican Party.

00:26:57.000 No, I mean, Steve Hilton, he definitely, his experience in TV, like, definitely helps, especially when you're up against, like, literally a bunch of nerds.

00:27:05.000 It's like, you know, it's whatever.

00:27:07.000 I was kind of confused by a guy with a British accent who's, like, running for office in California.

00:27:12.000 California has a precedent of Republican governors with weird accents being, yeah, and I'm like, it's kind of, I mean, it's definitely not the worst thing about California, but it is, it kind of stops me in my tracks every time.

00:27:22.000 But, like, when we're talking about the aura deficit in the GOP, why are we all, like, going for Steve Hilton when you have literally Chad Bianco?

00:27:29.000 His name's Chad.

00:27:30.000 True.

00:27:31.000 He's like a sheriff.

00:27:32.000 He's like, yeah, I mean, he's a little rough around the edges, but like, I don't know.

00:27:36.000 I kind of prefer that.

00:27:37.000 I think it's great.

00:27:38.000 No, I mean, I like aesthetically, you know, it's like he's like more obviously like Californian because he's not British. 0.62

00:27:43.000 Right.

00:27:44.000 You know, that's because he's from there.

00:27:45.000 For sure.

00:27:46.000 But you know, like, all like, again, this is like, I get so fed up with people who like, you want to be so nitpicky with politics.

00:27:52.000 It's like, dude, what can we actually do?

00:27:54.000 Like, who can win?

00:27:55.000 I, my full support is whoever who can win.

00:27:58.000 Right.

00:27:58.000 So if Hilton's in the lead, he's got my full support.

00:28:00.000 If Bianca's in the lead, he has my full support.

00:28:02.000 Right.

00:28:03.000 I'm because Hilton's in the, I'm voting for Hilton in the, Primary because just because he's winning, right?

00:28:08.000 Like, it really makes no difference to me.

00:28:11.000 I just like we need something back, but you're right.

00:28:13.000 Like, Chad Bianco, it's better you gotta let him do something.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, he's like, reminds me of like Curtis Sleewom, like, give him like a cool job, just something like morale boost.

00:28:23.000 But you know what's funny is when people were like early on, when people were like Steve Hilton, Steve Hilton, um, I was like, he's uh, he's like too bald and too British, yeah, right?

00:28:32.000 And uh, but so he grew a beard, he didn't used to have a beard, he was that like that was an incredible aesthetic choice to give himself a little bit more.

00:28:41.000 Especially going up against a Chad.

00:28:43.000 Right.

00:28:44.000 You know, so it's really, really helping him.

00:28:46.000 And it is kind of funny how much those little things make a difference.

00:28:49.000 You know, people always talk about like the Nixon JFK when Nixon was a little unshaven and then lost him the thing.

00:28:55.000 These like little things matter.

00:28:58.000 But I just want California back.

00:28:59.000 And so, you know, I would love if it's the two of them, I wouldn't even care.

00:29:04.000 You know, at that point, we could get into the conversation.

00:29:06.000 But this goes to what you're talking to about the rest of the GOP is just like falling apart because we're actually in power in some regard now.

00:29:14.000 And when that happens, everyone starts attacking each other.

00:29:16.000 And, you know, when we're losing, it's when we're great because everyone's like, well, just.

00:29:21.000 Support whoever's on our side versus the other side. 0.92

00:29:24.000 And that's a problem that, like, you know, I think too many people on the right, they're just dedicated to being losers. 0.83

00:29:24.000 Yeah. 0.83

00:29:30.000 Yeah.

00:29:31.000 So they want to nitpick stuff.

00:29:32.000 They want to just like attack our own side and fight over like who actually gets to be in control of the thing when it's like, oh, great.

00:29:39.000 Now the Democrats are just being left like uncriticized all this time.

00:29:44.000 And they basically just have to do nothing but wait.

00:29:46.000 Well, because it's existential for California Republicans or California conservatives.

00:29:50.000 Because, like, you know, this is the, I made this point the other day about how Roe v. Wade getting overturned was the worst thing that ever happened to the.

00:29:56.000 Pro life lobby because now they lost their one carrot on a stick that they could use for fundraising, and now they're all pissed off at Trump.

00:30:02.000 And abortions are up, yeah, and abortions are up, but it's like, you know, that was their one thing, and now it's gone.

00:30:06.000 It's like, well, what do we send in our newsletter now?

00:30:08.000 Like, hey, we need to ban abortion in Wisconsin, like, no one cares around, yeah.

00:30:12.000 And it's kind of the same thing with Republicans, where it's like, once we've won, that's the worst thing that happened to the podcasters, the conservative commentaries.

00:30:18.000 Like, what do we complain about now?

00:30:19.000 Like, conservative commentaries turn into sports radio where you have people calling in, they're like, the coach needs to be fired, or like, you know, he should have been benched.

00:30:26.000 Why is why is Vance going to Pakistan?

00:30:28.000 Like, you know, people get started to get really and they're There's a lot to criticize about the Trump administration.

00:30:32.000 Like, I'm not saying, you know, perfection, we shouldn't aspire for perfection.

00:30:35.000 I'm just saying, to your point, when we're backed into a corner, that's when you almost see excellence.

00:30:39.000 Like, Trump, when he was running, part of the magic was because everyone thought it was over.

00:30:43.000 Like, if you asked a Republican in 2014, if you ask anyone right of senator, they're like, yeah, it's going to be President Hillary, and then we're all going to go into gulags in 10 years.

00:30:50.000 And then two years later, Trump comes along, and everyone's like, all right, yeah, let's do it.

00:30:53.000 Like, if we're going to go out, let's go out and let's go hard.

00:30:53.000 Why not?

00:30:56.000 And that's kind of the same thing we're seeing with California, where it's like, once again, Republicans feel like they're backed into a corner somewhat, they're demoralized in large part.

00:31:03.000 And then also, some hope comes along.

00:31:05.000 And that just invigorates everyone.

00:31:07.000 And so, like, that's also why I want to get to the point because a lot of people in the audience are watching are very California critical and they have a lot of ammo.

00:31:15.000 Why should Republicans even aspire to take back California if it's worth it?

00:31:19.000 California is worth saving.

00:31:22.000 You have literally everything.

00:31:23.000 You have the beach, you have the mountains, you have the desert.

00:31:25.000 Like, you can go skiing and the surfing in the same day.

00:31:29.000 It's part of the economy.

00:31:30.000 Well, yeah, because part of. 0.53

00:31:31.000 They grow all of the food in America.

00:31:34.000 They have Hollywood. 1.00

00:31:35.000 I know Hollywood's like gay or whatever, but like. 1.00

00:31:37.000 But it used to be cool. 1.00

00:31:38.000 Yeah, it's actually, and it can't.

00:31:41.000 Rambo, hello.

00:31:42.000 Like, we totally gave up.

00:31:42.000 Yeah.

00:31:43.000 We also partially forfeited that industry totally once we decided that it wasn't worth saving.

00:31:48.000 This is the point I want to get to is like, this has kind of been the problem this temperament and conservatism is to not retake institutions, is build parallel institutions.

00:31:55.000 So they're like, well, we lost California.

00:31:57.000 So let's build Texas to be the next California.

00:31:59.000 And it's like, that's, I respect it.

00:32:02.000 It's coming from a good place.

00:32:03.000 But I think Elon Musk demonstrated the importance of retaking an institution because, again, how many Twitter clones were there?

00:32:09.000 You had like Parler, Gab. 0.95

00:32:11.000 Even true social, and they all just like sucked.

00:32:13.000 And it's like he comes along, he's just like, I'm just gonna take it back, I'm just gonna buy it and like take it back.

00:32:17.000 And I think that should demonstrate to conservatives that like you can't build another California.

00:32:21.000 And California, again, whether people like it or not, GDP wise, most important state in the country, you kind of just got to take it back.

00:32:27.000 Well, this is like, you know, what are the words liberal and conservative mean?

00:32:31.000 Like, are liberals liberal by definition of the word, you know?

00:32:35.000 And it's why like I could, because to be a conservative means you're like you're playing defense in like democracy.

00:32:41.000 Which means you're just, you can never gain ground.

00:32:43.000 You can only lose it.

00:32:44.000 So, like, conservatives don't want to win.

00:32:47.000 And that's why Trump's like, I will show you people how to win.

00:32:50.000 Yeah.

00:32:50.000 Because you have to actually want to win and then you have to try to win to ever win.

00:32:55.000 And that's so, like, whatever the Republican Party was for a long time, like, Trump has especially shown over this current cycle that, like, everyone that he endorses wins.

00:33:04.000 Like, this is Trump's party.

00:33:06.000 And if you actually want to win anything, you have to be on the Trump train.

00:33:09.000 Otherwise, you're just going to lose.

00:33:11.000 Like, forget once Trump's gone, whatever's left of me.

00:33:14.000 The Democrats actually want to win.

00:33:15.000 And this is, whatever you think of him, this is the, but Curtis Yarvin's, like, best.

00:33:20.000 Thought ever, which is that Republicans like alcohol the way a wine snob likes alcohol, and Democrats like alcohol the way an alcoholic likes alcohol.

00:33:29.000 Who's going to get drunk?

00:33:30.000 Yeah, we're Trump's going to get drunker.

00:33:32.000 Yeah, and Trump's like, and Trump, and I think this is like what California Republicans also kind of the same feeling is like, okay, a big tent that's full of just different types of people that just lose everything is just going to create a big tent of losers where Trump's like, I'm just going to eviscerate it all and I'm going to create one path forward where we actually win.

00:33:48.000 And you can either join or you don't, but we're not going to leave any room on the margins necessarily.

00:33:52.000 And it's like, You kind of have to admire that because, again, the big tent, Republicans did win elections.

00:33:56.000 The Republicans won the majority of elections over the last 60 years, but everything got worse because, again, you just formed a big tent full of coalitions, full of ideologies that consistently lose everything.

00:34:06.000 And then when you put them all in the same room, there's like, how do we lose, but like in a really beautiful way?

00:34:10.000 So I'm curious.

00:34:11.000 Yeah.

00:34:11.000 I'm curious because you left California.

00:34:13.000 You said in COVID, right?

00:34:15.000 Do you have hope for California?

00:34:16.000 Needless to say, I disagree with pretty much all of those.

00:34:16.000 Oh, no.

00:34:19.000 Okay.

00:34:19.000 Honestly, there's so much hope and optimism in this room.

00:34:22.000 I find it bone chilling.

00:34:23.000 I understand it.

00:34:24.000 I love California.

00:34:25.000 It's the most, bar none, the most beautiful state in the country.

00:34:28.000 It's gone.

00:34:29.000 Spencer Pratt's chances of winning?

00:34:31.000 Zero.

00:34:32.000 He is not going to win.

00:34:33.000 And, you know, I mean, I think that, at least from the perspective of liberal voters in L.A., I think they find him generally, you know, kind of piggish and off putting.

00:34:41.000 And I don't understand this authenticity you guys are sensing. 0.67

00:34:44.000 I mean, his whole campaign seems pretty manicured.

00:34:47.000 And his leaning into the AI videos, don't forget, L.A. in the entertainment industry was like 12, 12.5% of L.A.

00:34:54.000 They are not happy with AI.

00:34:55.000 I have to push back on this because none of those are his campaign ads.

00:34:55.000 Hold on.

00:35:00.000 His campaign is fully shot on red cameras.

00:35:04.000 Like, I know his video guy.

00:35:06.000 And every time all these news people are always doing all this AI stuff, those are all fan made.

00:35:11.000 But those are the viral ones.

00:35:12.000 Those are the ones that are taking voters.

00:35:14.000 No, no, no.

00:35:14.000 His most viral ones are not.

00:35:16.000 No, no, no.

00:35:17.000 The Bel Air one, the Bel Air one, that one's super viral.

00:35:19.000 You know which one was, I thought, his single best one was Black Hole Sun.

00:35:25.000 I think it was like the Nora Jones version or something, going down this quiet little, nice little street with one homeless tent at the end, and how that thing makes every single mother in the whole neighborhood feel unsafe.

00:35:38.000 They are doing actual, traditional filmmaking ads better than anything that we've ever seen.

00:35:45.000 Those are like the one with him, the reason why all that drama with him in the trailer, but you don't really live there, because that was the one that blew up.

00:35:53.000 That was the one that went the most viral.

00:35:55.000 These other ones are also, yes, they're going viral, but those are all.

00:35:58.000 That's how much, like, people.

00:35:59.000 It's just because he has a lot of traction.

00:36:00.000 Yeah, he has traction.

00:36:01.000 People are fans of his, and so they're trying to make more content.

00:36:05.000 No one's making Karen Bass ads.

00:36:07.000 Yeah, no one's making Karen Bass ads.

00:36:08.000 Because they don't have to.

00:36:09.000 I don't have to. 0.99

00:36:10.000 I've seen a Nithya Raman ad, and you could tell they were like, let's do the Mamdani thing. 0.97

00:36:14.000 They're just lying. 0.53

00:36:15.000 But if they could, they wouldn't.

00:36:17.000 I'm sure.

00:36:17.000 It's so bad.

00:36:18.000 And look, like, I get what you're saying.

00:36:20.000 I totally understand what you're saying.

00:36:21.000 But the thing is, is that all these people, you know, like, I had a tweet that I gave like a dozen stories of like terrible, Situations I had with homeless people.

00:36:32.000 You know, I had something where like a girl OD'd and I had to call the police and all this kind of stuff. 0.97

00:36:35.000 Like I got pushed into oncoming traffic by a homeless person, fires, you know, needles, human shit, all this just insane stuff, murders, everything.

00:36:45.000 And it's like a very, very small amount of my stories that I put in that tweet. 0.98

00:36:50.000 And I got quote tweeted with people putting their own series of stories.

00:36:53.000 People have had enough.

00:36:54.000 And it doesn't mean that everyone is going to jump on board.

00:36:57.000 But all this stuff online, which is like really, really great, at some point, people realize that I don't feel safe in my neighborhood anymore.

00:37:06.000 And they either have that survival instinct or they don't.

00:37:08.000 But all this other stuff, and this is why he's so good about just getting to the actual reality of it all, that when you kind of get away from the playing the politics game and you just see what's right in front of you, That is how you convince people.

00:37:20.000 He was talking about, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

00:37:22.000 Please, please.

00:37:23.000 Making a more of like an existential case to voters where he was talking, like, you saw Karen Bass and this other girl.

00:37:29.000 I keep forgetting her name, but they're.

00:37:31.000 Just think of like instant ramen.

00:37:32.000 Ramen.

00:37:33.000 Yeah, it's easy.

00:37:34.000 It's cheap.

00:37:34.000 We should lean into that in the campaign, honestly.

00:37:34.000 Ramen.

00:37:37.000 That seems to be not authentic.

00:37:39.000 But they're both talking about like which committees they've been on or like what, you know, what task forces that they've introduced.

00:37:47.000 And Spencer Pratt correctly said, like, well, what task force or what, you know, how much money can you dump on this issue? 0.94

00:37:54.000 Let's just go into an underpass, talk to a homeless person, try to give them money, and you'll get stabbed in the neck.

00:37:59.000 It's like that actually is the message that sticks to voters far more effective than anything the other candidates.

00:38:05.000 No amount of information is going to help low information people vote for their own interests.

00:38:11.000 I mean, you're talking about the aesthetics of his ad, and at some level, there's an aesthetic sensibility in LA, especially people in the entertainment industry, but that's not going to outweigh the propaganda.

00:38:19.000 And these people have been heavily propagandized for a very long time.

00:38:22.000 So I just don't have this Pollyanna vision.

00:38:26.000 Before you step outside your house and like a homeless man screams at you and like threatens you with a mask.

00:38:31.000 I understand that.

00:38:31.000 And you spoke to that too.

00:38:33.000 The minute you go in the voting booth, these people, those experiences are gonna get relegated to the back burner and they're gonna pull the lever for the Democrat.

00:38:40.000 I mean, sometimes, sometimes.

00:38:42.000 I don't know.

00:38:42.000 Like, look, the people do get mugged by reality.

00:38:45.000 Like, people do have the Drew Pavlo arc where you're super, super liberal and then you get mugged and then you're like, ah, fuck, no, these people should be in jail actually. 0.98

00:38:45.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:38:55.000 And so, yes, I like.

00:38:56.000 We would not be in this situation if every single person had like a functioning sense of reality and just reacted reasonably.

00:39:05.000 But still, people do at a certain point, people have their breaking points.

00:39:09.000 The question is, have we gotten there yet?

00:39:11.000 Are there enough of those people?

00:39:12.000 I would argue that literally having the Palisades burned to the ground is a pretty, you know, that's a reality check for a lot of those voters.

00:39:21.000 One would hope.

00:39:22.000 But you were talking about Roe v. Wade.

00:39:23.000 I think we got a mini situation here with Spencer Pratt with going hard on homelessness.

00:39:27.000 That's an industry in California.

00:39:29.000 Of course, it is.

00:39:29.000 And they cannot let that industry be decimated.

00:39:34.000 Like, that is going to, they're going to hang on to that no matter what.

00:39:36.000 Yes, there's going to be a lot, there's a lot of money being put in to make sure he doesn't win because these people, you know, a homelessness industrial complex.

00:39:42.000 Yes, exactly.

00:39:43.000 The real estate developers, all of the people running these like nonprofits, and they pat, like, someone who works for Karen Bass just got arrested for giving drugs or like selling drugs to like homeless people and something like that, right?

00:39:56.000 So they have all these things in place.

00:39:58.000 You're right.

00:39:59.000 The question is, how many people are actually on the payroll of that versus the actual population?

00:40:05.000 So then, how many people are going to be affected by the propaganda put out by the people on the payroll?

00:40:10.000 Right.

00:40:10.000 So it's just going to be a game of who can convince who.

00:40:14.000 And, you know, and again, but like all that aside, the reality has to come into play because so much of politics is kind of like sort of intangible, you know, like all these kind of things.

00:40:25.000 It's like, oh, yeah, this policy, that policy, you know, and it's kind of, it's over there.

00:40:29.000 It's a little, whatever, a little abstract, right in your face.

00:40:32.000 Like, I came home one time when I lived in Venice, and I have a parking spot right in front of my garage door.

00:40:40.000 A homeless person had dragged a mattress and was sleeping in my parking spot, right?

00:40:45.000 So, like, if I was a mom or like a woman or something, I would, I don't know what I would do because how to, the front door, the door to my house was also right next to the driveway.

00:40:55.000 Would I have felt safe parking my car on the street and walking in?

00:40:58.000 No, what I did was I poked the guy with my foot and I was like, hey, man, you got to get out of here.

00:41:03.000 And he's like, oh, dude, I just, I dragged the mattress.

00:41:07.000 Like, I don't care, man, you got to get out of here.

00:41:08.000 And I like, I even like, kind of like pulled it and, Got it out of the way and it was disgusting, but it's like, I would not have done that if I was a woman, I'm sure.

00:41:16.000 But, and I shouldn't have to deal with that.

00:41:18.000 And it's like, if someone has that slapped them in the face at some point, they'd be like, I can't even go to my own house.

00:41:25.000 You know, and there are people, there would not be liberals if there weren't people who'd be like, that's okay.

00:41:29.000 He probably needed it.

00:41:30.000 You know, like that exists.

00:41:32.000 That exists.

00:41:33.000 But at some point, at some point, those things, they take a toll on people.

00:41:38.000 So, well, I think we should go kind of on that note to this next story from the New York Post.

00:41:43.000 FBI announces U.S. violent crime rate plummeted by fastest rate in nearly 90 years.

00:41:49.000 Quote, changes are working.

00:41:52.000 Violent crime fell across the United States in 2025 at rates not seen in close to a century, findings from the FBI showed.

00:41:59.000 Murder and non negligent manslaughter plummeted by more than 18% nationwide last year, while aggravated assaults dropped by more than 7%.

00:42:08.000 According to a preliminary report on national 2025 crime rates, violent crime rates on the whole.

00:42:14.000 Dipped by about 9.3 last year, the data shows.

00:42:18.000 And they put some graphics up here just kind of showing, again, this drop nationwide in violent crime.

00:42:24.000 Now, I think there's two things going on here.

00:42:26.000 One, to steel man and sort of support the Trump administration here, is they have created an atmosphere nationwide of accountability.

00:42:33.000 I think it'll be fair to say, I think even maybe even Trump critics would maybe concede that, yes, it does feel like there's a new sheriff in town.

00:42:39.000 We have seen that they're willing to pull the rug out with federal funding whenever they feel like you're not.

00:42:44.000 Working in conjunction with the Trump administration's agenda.

00:42:46.000 So, I think a lot of these states, a lot of these police departments are now playing ball.

00:42:50.000 I was talking yesterday on my show with Super Trucker, who has been exposing a lot of the H 1B fraud or just illegal immigrant scamming going on in trucking. 0.74

00:43:00.000 Fantastic interview. 0.88

00:43:01.000 It's up on the Tate Brown TimCash channel.

00:43:02.000 You should go take a look.

00:43:03.000 And he was talking about how California, funny enough, California, at the beginning of the year eventually conceded and they started changing a lot of the ways that they issue CDLs and these sorts of things.

00:43:13.000 So, a lot of these blue states are having to play ball with the Trump administration.

00:43:17.000 And that is probably having an impact on violent crime.

00:43:19.000 I mean, this is certainly what the FBI is touting.

00:43:21.000 But one thing I want to say in addition to that is we have seen violent crime going down since COVID.

00:43:26.000 We obviously saw a big peak during COVID.

00:43:28.000 But nationwide, over the last 30, 40 years, violent crime has been going down.

00:43:33.000 Scott Greer has been making this point on Twitter.

00:43:34.000 He's catching a lot of flack for it.

00:43:35.000 But he's like, look, whether we like it or not, the data doesn't lie.

00:43:38.000 The 70s and 80s were an exceptionally violent time in our country's history.

00:43:43.000 And so a lot of this is just coming back down from that peak.

00:43:47.000 While, yes, we should give the Trump administration credit for sort of creating this environment, this culture, et cetera, et cetera, it must be noted that it seems like Americans are just getting less violent.

00:43:57.000 I mean, that would kind of be the takeaway.

00:43:59.000 I'm curious why you guys think that that might be.

00:44:02.000 What contributing factors do you think it'd be?

00:44:04.000 Because I don't sense that this is necessarily blue states and blue cities, police departments firing on all cylinders.

00:44:11.000 If anything, that would make it get worse with the DAs.

00:44:14.000 I mean, it's like a total Wild West in some of these cities.

00:44:16.000 But we are seeing nationwide crime rates still continue to decline.

00:44:20.000 Well, I mean, I think obviously there is a very real decline.

00:44:26.000 And then there's the question of, especially when Trump wasn't in office, how accurate are these stats?

00:44:32.000 We know a lot of local departments don't track things the appropriate way.

00:44:37.000 But I think a big aspect of it, and maybe people might not feel that things are as safe as they are, is not the total numbers, but where they are.

00:44:46.000 Sure.

00:44:47.000 So we used to have a more, I mean, we had a quite literally segregated society, but then we had a more sort of class stratified.

00:44:54.000 Yeah.

00:44:55.000 And so it was harder to get people more stayed to their neighborhoods.

00:44:58.000 And so maybe it's a thing where if you actually break up the really violent populations from their secluded neighborhoods and kind of spread them out, the normal people actually get faced with it more, but the total numbers.

00:45:09.000 Go down.

00:45:10.000 Yeah.

00:45:10.000 I mean, if you talk to New Yorkers, they'll say, like, you know, back in the day, you know, certain neighborhoods would be total war zones.

00:45:16.000 And then you would go a few people would always say, oh, New York City, the whole city changes based off what block you're in.

00:45:20.000 You know, like you go to one block and you feel like you're in China and then one block, you feel like you're in Italy.

00:45:24.000 And the same thing kind of corresponded to crime, where one block would be exceptionally dangerous.

00:45:29.000 And then you go a block away and you're like in elite society.

00:45:31.000 Where when you visit New York City now, you kind of get a fairly homogenous experience throughout the city.

00:45:37.000 I mean, there still are neighborhoods like, you know, Canarsie that are exceptionally violent.

00:45:40.000 But generally, like no matter where you are in Manhattan, for example, maybe like barring East Harlem, there is this kind of general level of danger that you feel at all times, whether you're in, you know, Gramercy Park or if you're on the Upper West Side or that sort of thing.

00:45:52.000 So I think that's correct is that crime, yes, it used to be higher, but I think it was also more concentrated where now you feel like you could be a victim of violent crime, even if you're in Beverly Hills or even if you're on, you know, the Upper East Side of New York.

00:46:04.000 Yeah.

00:46:05.000 And I mean, just because it's not as high as it used to be doesn't mean that it's still not like alarming or something that people encounter regularly.

00:46:12.000 Whether you're in California or in DC.

00:46:14.000 I remember when I was in college, this was post COVID.

00:46:17.000 Someone broke into my car and stole $20 out of my car.

00:46:21.000 So that was great.

00:46:23.000 And then they broke into a bunch of other cars in the neighborhood and stole some families' baby clothes and things like that.

00:46:29.000 They'll steal the most random stuff.

00:46:31.000 And it's like, okay, the crime rate might be lower, I guess, but I'm still getting on the metro and looking around and hoping that someone doesn't steal my Canada Goose Puffer, that one video, or whatever, or stab me in the neck.

00:46:44.000 That's still definitely a fear that people encounter regularly.

00:46:47.000 Like, can't go to Chipotle without getting hit in the head with the wooden chair, apparently.

00:46:52.000 But it's like, oh no, but crime is down.

00:46:53.000 It's like, sure, but it's still totally a problem.

00:46:55.000 And obviously, it's a positive development.

00:46:58.000 If that's the case, there are definitely questions about the accuracy of crime reporting in DC specifically.

00:47:04.000 But, you know, it's still a real thing that people deal with constantly.

00:47:07.000 Because there was this.

00:47:08.000 I mean, this is WREG, this is the local news in Memphis.

00:47:11.000 I'm a Memphis native, so I can speak to this directly.

00:47:14.000 You know, the mayor's going around saying, well, You know, overall crimes dropped 41% over the last two years, and it's because I'm such an awesome mayor.

00:47:20.000 That's why I go to Memphis all the time.

00:47:24.000 It does not feel safer than it did 10 years ago.

00:47:26.000 It feels far more dangerous, actually.

00:47:28.000 Memphis has always been an exceptionally dangerous city.

00:47:32.000 Again, if you can read the Wikipedia demographics section, I think you can infer why that may be the case.

00:47:36.000 But Memphis does not feel safer.

00:47:38.000 And just because he's saying crime rates have dropped 41%, I'm still hearing, you know, from my friends that still live in Memphis, obviously, I now live in the DC area, that no, they're still getting their cars broken into all the time.

00:47:49.000 My friends that are women are like, no, I'm not jogging.

00:47:52.000 We had actually a pretty horrific jogger crime, just indiscriminate, attacked a white lady that was jogging in Memphis.

00:47:59.000 And that's changed the culture.

00:48:00.000 Just that one crime was so violent, so shocking that every woman, every white woman in Memphis specifically, just carries themselves a bit differently.

00:48:08.000 And so saying, oh, crimes dropped 41%, they need to actually feel like it's safer.

00:48:13.000 That's the key difference here is like people don't respond to data, as we know.

00:48:16.000 We discussed it.

00:48:17.000 Everyone's familiar with the expression, what, lying with statistics?

00:48:21.000 Right.

00:48:22.000 Statistics are extremely deceptive.

00:48:22.000 Yeah.

00:48:23.000 Like, if you go from like a thousand murders one year to 500 murders, it's like, yeah, that's quite the reduction, but like you're still dealing with 500.

00:48:30.000 That's still more than a murder day.

00:48:32.000 Like, not a day.

00:48:33.000 And so, like, kind of going back to the thing where I was saying, like, you know, area stuff, right?

00:48:37.000 Like, when I was on with you a few days ago, you know, talking about how, like, Beverly Hills now has, like, drive-by shootings, like, okay, so if all of LA has gotten safer on the whole, but, like, now Beverly Hills deals with, like, violent crime, you know, it's like, so, oh, then the people might go, oh, you know, rich people, it's like, it's about time that you deal with this, you know, it's like, okay, sure.

00:48:58.000 But it's like, that means that there's nowhere to get away from anything, right?

00:49:01.000 Like, if you don't like the way something is, like, my hometown is definitely worse off than it was when I was little.

00:49:06.000 Sure.

00:49:07.000 There's crime, there's home, even though it's still relatively pretty darn great, there's a little bit and there's to be none.

00:49:13.000 Yeah.

00:49:14.000 It's the indiscriminate crime, I think.

00:49:16.000 Yeah, because it's like, look, you can be safe.

00:49:19.000 If you're a normal person, you can't be in a nice neighborhood.

00:49:22.000 Yeah, you can't.

00:49:23.000 There's nowhere, again, like it's always, and this is why going back to Pratt, like if you're a mother, it's always like the mother's thing with children.

00:49:29.000 Like you can't do your normal thing where you would be safe.

00:49:31.000 It's like, look, we're not going into the bad.

00:49:32.000 Like when I was a kid, you know, there was, of course, like everything, like never go to Compton, right?

00:49:37.000 Like Compton was the hood, all this. 1.00

00:49:39.000 Compton's Mexican now. 1.00

00:49:40.000 Like, it's all Hispanic, right? 0.96

00:49:42.000 So, they kind of like gentrified it, if that word still applies. 0.53

00:49:46.000 If you're not white, I don't know. 0.92

00:49:48.000 So, like, where did those black people go? 1.00

00:49:51.000 There, they spread out, right? 1.00

00:49:52.000 Right.

00:49:52.000 And so, if you have like a higher contingency of crime from a certain population in that city, now they're just like spread out.

00:50:01.000 Yeah.

00:50:01.000 It's like instead of like, you know, this neighborhood being twice as violent as this neighborhood, now they're both equally as violent.

00:50:08.000 Yeah.

00:50:09.000 And this actually, like, Again, I mean, I'm not, I know I'm like from California, not everything is about California, but this is the thing too, where it's like you can't live a life, set things up where you can just run away from stuff.

00:50:20.000 And when people are talking about why should we're about California, our problems become your problems.

00:50:26.000 And then, like, the liberals that you guys hate from California, they're going to move to your town and they're going to do the same thing.

00:50:31.000 They're going to vote for the same thing.

00:50:32.000 They're going to do the same thing.

00:50:34.000 And again, the thing is, though, it's like this isn't like, this doesn't really come from California.

00:50:40.000 I feel like not enough. 0.72

00:50:42.000 People talk about like Prop 187 in 1994, which was a vote to prohibit illegals from accessing welfare and services.

00:50:52.000 And California voted to prohibit that.

00:50:54.000 And then, you know, a judge overturned it, like Jimmy Carter appointed judge, something like that, right?

00:51:01.000 So it's like our, we're just kind of like the stage for what else is going on.

00:51:07.000 In the whole country.

00:51:07.000 Absolutely.

00:51:08.000 We saw it.

00:51:09.000 I mean, you had the proposition in the late aughts where they said, no, we don't want gay marriage.

00:51:13.000 Five years later, the court's like, actually, we don't care. 0.90

00:51:13.000 Yeah, 2008, we voted. 0.90

00:51:15.000 We're going to ram it down everyone's throats.

00:51:17.000 Yeah.

00:51:17.000 I'm from Metro Detroit.

00:51:18.000 So I grew up when Detroit was kind of near its worst.

00:51:23.000 And they're saying it's dropped now by 19% violent crime.

00:51:27.000 It doesn't mean that when I go to Detroit, I don't want my dad, my husband, or anybody there with me.

00:51:31.000 I wouldn't just like walk around.

00:51:32.000 We got married in Detroit.

00:51:33.000 And it was a great, great wedding, beautiful wedding.

00:51:36.000 But we weren't in like the crime area of Detroit.

00:51:39.000 I was driving around.

00:51:40.000 I was like, what is going on?

00:51:41.000 Do I need to give them money?

00:51:41.000 Are they okay?

00:51:43.000 It was at a museum.

00:51:44.000 So it was beautiful.

00:51:45.000 It was.

00:51:46.000 But you're surrounded by just nothing.

00:51:47.000 Yeah.

00:51:48.000 It was crazy.

00:51:48.000 And because it's right off like the main strip, but it's far enough back, you're like, Where am I?

00:51:52.000 So terrified.

00:51:53.000 You're like shaken.

00:51:54.000 I will.

00:51:54.000 I had security.

00:51:55.000 Don't worry.

00:51:56.000 Okay.

00:51:56.000 You were there too.

00:51:57.000 Well, my wife was walking to like HM or something in the morning when I was sleeping in.

00:51:57.000 Yeah.

00:52:02.000 She came back.

00:52:03.000 She's like, Some guy just creepily said, You shouldn't be walking out here alone.

00:52:08.000 I mean, they'll do that.

00:52:09.000 They'll do that.

00:52:10.000 And then she said, Was he threatening me or was he trying to help me?

00:52:12.000 You know, it's not.

00:52:13.000 They say that.

00:52:15.000 They never actually like, It's very rare to see it actually happen where someone does something, but they're like, You shouldn't do that.

00:52:20.000 It's like, Okay.

00:52:21.000 Like, there is something he said.

00:52:22.000 Americans are getting creepier.

00:52:24.000 It is creepy. 1.00

00:52:25.000 Are they all Americans, though? 1.00

00:52:25.000 It is creepy. 1.00

00:52:26.000 True.

00:52:27.000 Well, that's the question.

00:52:28.000 So I don't know.

00:52:28.000 There you go.

00:52:29.000 I mean, again.

00:52:30.000 I should do a movie on that.

00:52:31.000 Yes.

00:52:31.000 What's an American?

00:52:32.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:52:33.000 It's a great trend overall.

00:52:35.000 But again, I don't feel safe.

00:52:36.000 Like to your point with Memphis, I wouldn't feel safe just being like, all right, I'm going to go.

00:52:40.000 It's 9 p.m. time to go take a nice stroll in downtown Detroit.

00:52:43.000 I probably wouldn't do that or anywhere in Detroit.

00:52:45.000 And I love to see it.

00:52:46.000 It's not the only measure of deterioration in the city.

00:52:50.000 Like in California, if you're walking around and everything is disgusting, all the infrastructure is terrible, it's super outdated.

00:52:57.000 It's like there are a bunch of different measures that are still important that aren't just, although crime, I think, is probably number one, that would also point to just things not.

00:53:06.000 Well, crime's kind of like the maybe the driver of it.

00:53:10.000 And you kind of deal with like a broken window thing.

00:53:12.000 And like, even when the crime is gone, whether it be permanently or temporarily, the ramifications are still there.

00:53:19.000 So, if anyone is familiar with the Santa Monica Promenade, so it's this big like walk street that goes for blocks and blocks.

00:53:27.000 It's a big outdoor mall, right?

00:53:29.000 And I have all these memories growing up as a kid with my parents walking down there and like getting like ice cream and like going to the stores and all that kind of stuff.

00:53:36.000 And they have these like, you know, dinosaurs made out of ivy and cool shit like that.

00:53:41.000 And every, it's all vacant.

00:53:43.000 Every, like, there's like four businesses left on the whole thing.

00:53:47.000 And it's like, this was like a, like, a central part of like LA, of like, of LA culture and kind of getting to, whether it be tourists or locals, like, it was this really fun, amazing thing.

00:53:59.000 And why would it, the rent's too high, the crime's too high, all this stuff just sort of lingers around.

00:54:04.000 And though if you walk down there, there's, you're not witnessing crime.

00:54:08.000 It's kind of like, well, the potential for it or what used to be there, people get scared off and they just don't want to go back.

00:54:13.000 Well, getting back to your question, your original question of why do we think it's going down or the statistics say it's going down, I think people are inside all day on their phones.

00:54:21.000 I think there's less people out doing things.

00:54:23.000 So there's less crime being done. 1.00

00:54:24.000 It's like a damn phone. 1.00

00:54:25.000 That's what I wanted to get. 1.00

00:54:26.000 Look, it do be good and bad at the same time.

00:54:29.000 Consumers don't be doing crime anymore.

00:54:31.000 They just be on their phones.

00:54:31.000 Well, they're inside all day.

00:54:33.000 Well, that's what I wanted to hit on was because President Trump, he was catching some flack the other day because he said, I think it's only 2% of the population that's really roughing everyone up.

00:54:41.000 And 98%, he's like, I can deal with 2%.

00:54:43.000 It's not a problem.

00:54:44.000 He's basically just saying, let me take the gloves off, which they should.

00:54:46.000 So true.

00:54:47.000 But, uh, I think he's correct.

00:54:49.000 I think what's happened here is that a lot of Americans just aren't behaving in ways that would facilitate crime.

00:54:55.000 Like a lot of violent crime historian, you can look into it.

00:54:57.000 A lot of violent crime was like alcohol fueled or it was domestic.

00:55:02.000 Well, how can you have domestic assault when no one's getting married anymore?

00:55:04.000 There's no wives to wail on. 0.81

00:55:06.000 No one drinks anymore.

00:55:07.000 No one's getting laid.

00:55:07.000 I know.

00:55:09.000 Yeah.

00:55:09.000 No one's getting drunk.

00:55:10.000 No one's getting married.

00:55:11.000 So where's the fights going to happen?

00:55:13.000 So now it's just this, yeah, real.

00:55:15.000 So now it's just this 2% of the population.

00:55:17.000 They're sending death threats online.

00:55:18.000 On top of that.

00:55:19.000 Literally.

00:55:20.000 I'm like, do something, at least it's Lindy to act on it.

00:55:23.000 The guys don't have enough testosterone to commit crime.

00:55:25.000 That's a big.

00:55:26.000 That's the whole PSYOP.

00:55:27.000 Yeah.

00:55:28.000 Yeah.

00:55:28.000 That's the plan.

00:55:29.000 Everyone's like gay now. 1.00

00:55:30.000 It's like, you know, I'd almost be relieved to see the violent crime go up. 0.99

00:55:33.000 I'm like, that means our faith.

00:55:34.000 That means Maha's working.

00:55:35.000 Men honestly should go to jail like once for like a night.

00:55:39.000 Yeah, like that to me is like proof of testosterone.

00:55:41.000 It's like, you know.

00:55:43.000 So I mean, like.

00:55:43.000 Yeah.

00:55:43.000 So true.

00:55:44.000 I'm not committing crime right now.

00:55:45.000 So I'm just seeing this and I'm like, okay, this is great.

00:55:45.000 I know.

00:55:47.000 But I think this is an indication that I don't know if Americans are like becoming more.

00:55:52.000 You know, because people will point this out all the time.

00:55:54.000 They'll say, well, teenage pregnancies have tanked. 0.99

00:55:56.000 And it's like, at first glance, that seems like good news.

00:55:59.000 But that's not because Americans are getting more prudish.

00:56:00.000 That's just because they're not talking to each other.

00:56:03.000 They're not talking to each other. 1.00

00:56:04.000 Where are the hoes at? 1.00

00:56:04.000 It's a very salient question. 1.00

00:56:06.000 Where are they? 1.00

00:56:07.000 Where are the hoes? 1.00

00:56:08.000 It's like everyone's old. 1.00

00:56:08.000 Where are the hoes? 1.00

00:56:09.000 Everyone's chopped. 1.00

00:56:10.000 No one's talking to each other.

00:56:11.000 It's like, what is going on?

00:56:12.000 It's horrible.

00:56:14.000 So that's like, we want to see, I think, proof that Trump's reforms working is if violent crime shoots through the roof, if teenage pregnancies shoot through the roof, if everyone is like alcoholics, that means America's back.

00:56:25.000 More DUIs.

00:56:25.000 America's back.

00:56:26.000 If that happens.

00:56:27.000 So, you know, you are right though that it is such a small percentage of the population.

00:56:30.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 And they've even shown that, like, if you just get rid of all repeat offenders, like, there's no crime left.

00:56:35.000 Literally.

00:56:36.000 And then, of course, we get, we find our way back to the fix everything switch.

00:56:39.000 Right.

00:56:40.000 Like, really, really easy.

00:56:40.000 Right.

00:56:42.000 Just like Bukele showed us, if you just put the criminals in jail.

00:56:47.000 But we, we don't, the thing is, we live in a society where people don't want to fix things.

00:56:51.000 Like, and I had some, some tweet about Spencer Pratt, like, kind of go viral, and someone was like, you know, saying he's not going to win or he sucks or he doesn't have an experience or, You know, something like that.

00:57:02.000 That was probably Chris.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:03.000 That was me.

00:57:04.000 Sorry.

00:57:04.000 And it's like, you know, oh, like, what's his pop?

00:57:08.000 He says he wants to fix homelessness.

00:57:08.000 Is he going to fix it?

00:57:10.000 It's like, no, you realize these other people don't want to fix it because they benefit from it.

00:57:14.000 And that's like the kind of weirdest, just like cognitive dissonance.

00:57:19.000 If for a large percent of the population, especially liberals, they don't understand that the people that supposedly represent them don't want to solve a problem that they're talking about solving.

00:57:29.000 Like, if one of their organizations said, we're going to like cure this thing, what I would assume is they were going to make it 10 times worse.

00:57:36.000 Well, that goes to what you were saying with the crumbling infrastructure in California and a lot of the metro cities in the country.

00:57:40.000 It's just like it goes down to not just crime, but the misplaced priorities of the ruling class.

00:57:45.000 And, I mean, of course, I mean, California spent $14.5 million on reparations, studying reparations, figuring out ways to hand out reparations.

00:57:45.000 Yeah.

00:57:52.000 They have no priorities, especially for their own citizens.

00:57:55.000 I mean, like famously, if they have the high speed rail that just stops and it's like in Modesto.

00:57:55.000 Yeah.

00:57:59.000 Oh, it was never going to happen.

00:58:00.000 If you have to spend money on the right things, it's pretty clear that that's not always effectuated into like a Actual positive change.

00:58:08.000 You could not have thrown more money at homelessness and then it's like just totally gotten worse.

00:58:13.000 So, a bunch of people have made a lot of money.

00:58:13.000 Yep.

00:58:15.000 Oh, big time.

00:58:16.000 Yeah.

00:58:16.000 Well, yeah.

00:58:17.000 Worse for everybody else, but those nonprofit ladies with the salads, they're doing great. 1.00

00:58:22.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:58:22.000 Real. 0.98

00:58:23.000 And people also still have like a really high tolerance for antisocial behavior. 0.54

00:58:26.000 So, even if we like had this Dubai level infrastructure, it would just get destroyed in like three years because like we tolerate, again, to Trump's point, 2% of the population. 0.69

00:58:35.000 Well, they'd like ruin everything. 0.88

00:58:36.000 I mean, like literally, when you go to the bathroom, you go to a public bathroom.

00:58:39.000 You gotta like punch in the Da Vinci code to get in.

00:58:42.000 And then they like, there's no towels.

00:58:44.000 The toilet's now like automatic.

00:58:45.000 You gotta do like a Jedi Force Wave to get it to flush.

00:58:48.000 And then they have like a leaf blower on the wall because like 2% of the population's going in there and like, you know, taz from Looney Tunes, like destroying and everything. 1.00

00:58:56.000 So now we have to like kid proof society because these 2%ers. 0.98

00:59:00.000 And also because we don't wanna actually enforce the crime. 1.00

00:59:02.000 Like there are no teen takeovers in Dubai because they'll just like cut your hand.

00:59:05.000 Well, look, like literally.

00:59:07.000 They don't put you in jail when you commit like violent, violent crime.

00:59:11.000 They're not gonna.

00:59:12.000 Do anything to you if you just like mess things up a bit, you know?

00:59:14.000 And also, like, law enforcement has to be unapologetic about it.

00:59:17.000 I think people still like kind of flinch at the thought of like arresting the guy that commits the crime because it's like there was that obviously with like the George Floyd era of things that totally shifted the narrative and I think kind of like rewired a lot of people's brains when it comes to crime, even though it's like one of those things where it's like, yeah, if like you punch an old lady, you should go to jail.

00:59:36.000 But now there's like all these weird nuances people are programmed to have.

00:59:39.000 We need to like actually feel okay about enforcing the law. 0.99

00:59:43.000 And I think we're getting there, but like the cops, even the cops that like, Like, oh, I would just love to throw this fucker in jelly. 0.99

00:59:49.000 Just know I'm going to pick, if I pick him up, I don't have either the. 0.99

00:59:52.000 If the wrong Karen is taking a video, no, no, it's just like, I'm going to bring him back.

00:59:57.000 Well, actually, it's like, I actually don't have the authority to bring him back.

01:00:00.000 I'd literally love to, and then he would be let go anyway.

01:00:01.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:00:02.000 And that's the kind of thing that then you demoralize the police officers.

01:00:05.000 There was some kind of viral thing I saw on Twitter last few days where some guy was filming something in LA and he got assaulted by some passerby, and the cop was there and he's like, You can come into the courthouse and make some sort of like statement against him, but like, I didn't see it, so I can't do anything.

01:00:27.000 And then, you know, this other guy's like basically saying, you're impotent.

01:00:30.000 Like, as a police officer, you're impotent.

01:00:32.000 The guy's like, I'm just doing my job.

01:00:33.000 And it's like, yeah, you're not allowed to do your job.

01:00:35.000 And so it doesn't matter at what stage you, like, if a cop were to do something, their life would be ruined.

01:00:35.000 Yeah, literally.

01:00:40.000 Yeah.

01:00:40.000 And even if you do try to, like, if the crime that they're actually allowed to go after is, like, if you go seven over the speed limit.

01:00:47.000 And then, like, the suburban moms who relate to, like, the kid drop off, they're the ones that end up getting punished in society.

01:00:52.000 It's like a total inversion.

01:00:53.000 It's crazy.

01:00:54.000 And I. Whoever invented anarcho tyranny, was that. 0.98

01:00:54.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

01:00:58.000 That was like someone recently came up with that term, right? 0.95

01:01:00.000 Narcoterrorism. 0.98

01:01:01.000 It's a great term. 0.92

01:01:01.000 Yeah. 0.92

01:01:02.000 It's the best thing.

01:01:03.000 It explains everything.

01:01:04.000 It's so true.

01:01:04.000 And this is what's so frustrating because none of us at this table are regularly committing misdemeanors, right?

01:01:09.000 And this is the thing.

01:01:10.000 Well, yeah.

01:01:12.000 But just walk with me.

01:01:13.000 Let's all pretend that we're all Boy Scouts here.

01:01:17.000 If you're consistently racking up misdemeanors, that indicates that you have a lot of antisocial behaviors.

01:01:23.000 You have an antisocial temperament, which is going to make you prone to committing misdemeanors.

01:01:28.000 More violent crime down the road.

01:01:30.000 That's why those laws were there in the first place.

01:01:31.000 That's why, like, jaywalking was a law in the first place.

01:01:33.000 It wasn't to just randomly pick off us when we decide to jaywalk.

01:01:36.000 It was to punish people.

01:01:38.000 You could build a case on them, like, okay, this guy's consistently demonstrating antisocial behaviors.

01:01:42.000 Let's throw him in jail.

01:01:43.000 Well, now we've all agreed as a society that it's like, wow, it feels a bit wrong to enforce such a minor rule.

01:01:48.000 And then these people are able to get away scot free.

01:01:50.000 This is why I like, before we get into the next story, this is why I like John Doyle's proposal, which is you get a punch card, and if you commit 10 misdemeanors, like, non traffic related, obviously, you get killed.

01:01:58.000 I think it's like, that makes a lot of sense.

01:02:01.000 John Doyle for president.

01:02:02.000 In my mind, that's a pretty decent inroad to a Singapore version of the United States.

01:02:06.000 I like it, yeah, yeah.

01:02:07.000 It's like, okay, you graffitied 10 times.

01:02:09.000 That's like honestly demonstrating that you're like holding society up just as much as someone else because you are literally promoting ugliness, you know.

01:02:17.000 Like, I was in Austin like a month ago and I went like a little canoe ride or something.

01:02:22.000 And we're gonna eat the bridge, and I'm like, first off, how do they get under here?

01:02:26.000 Yeah, but it's also like, why, why, yeah, why? 0.55

01:02:29.000 Because you like because they suck and they're it's like, I feel like like something bad, really bad should happen to you, yeah, you're just gonna start.

01:02:35.000 Graffiti, like, right, you know, it's like, and it's not even just graffiti. 0.97

01:02:38.000 Like, oh, no, like, repeated, like, violent crimes, like Irina Zarutska's killer.

01:02:44.000 He had however many, like, and like, how many times he had been arrested for like violent crimes, and like, he was still on the bus.

01:02:52.000 But everyone has the courage to attack the repeat violent criminal offenders.

01:02:55.000 I'm saying, does anyone have the courage to attack the minor crime offenders that commit them regularly?

01:02:59.000 Like, a guy that has four littering tickets, you're out, you're done.

01:03:03.000 But I want the judges, I want the judges.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, well, there's a lot to unravel here.

01:03:07.000 I think we should go international here before we pivot to a Probably the most important story of the story of the day, which is Hooters.

01:03:12.000 Let's jump into this story from the BBC, and that is the British broadcasting company, everyone.

01:03:17.000 Rubio says Cuba is a threat to the United States as Havana accuses him of lies.

01:03:21.000 So everyone needs to put on their geopolitics hats for this story.

01:03:24.000 Cuba poses a, quote, national security threat to the United States, and the likelihood of a peaceful agreement is, quote, not high, U.S. Secretary of State Mark Rubio said.

01:03:33.000 His comments just come a day after the United States charged Cuba's former president, Raul Castro, with murder over the 1996 drowning.

01:03:41.000 Or downing, 1996 downing of two planes, resulting in the killing of U.S. nationals.

01:03:47.000 Rubio said Washington's preference was a diplomatic solution, but warned that President Donald Trump had the right and the obligation to protect his country against any threat.

01:03:55.000 Obviously, Cuba's pissed off about this.

01:03:57.000 Their foreign minister, Bruno Rodriguez, a really Cuban name, by the way, accused Rubio of lies and said the island never posed a threat to the United States.

01:04:05.000 What are they going to do?

01:04:06.000 They have no food, no one has the body strength.

01:04:08.000 What are they going to do?

01:04:10.000 They're going to actually have no cards.

01:04:12.000 Like, literally, you don't have a modern car.

01:04:14.000 You're talking all tough.

01:04:15.000 Like, what are they realistically going to do? 1.00

01:04:17.000 Yeah, it's like going to war with, like, a refugee camp. 1.00

01:04:20.000 It's like, what are they going to throw rocks at us? 1.00

01:04:22.000 Like, good luck.

01:04:23.000 Rubio says they pose a threat.

01:04:23.000 I guess.

01:04:24.000 They say it's lies.

01:04:25.000 I mean, just on the face of it, obviously they're lying.

01:04:27.000 That makes no sense.

01:04:29.000 What threat does Cuba, I mean, plausibly pose?

01:04:29.000 Yeah.

01:04:32.000 Well, isn't the whole thing that they're not like a direct military threat, but as they've always been, they're like right off of our coast.

01:04:39.000 Or the beachhead for their threats.

01:04:41.000 For like global communism, right?

01:04:42.000 So, like, after the Soviet Union fell, especially, Cuba is like the global headquarters of communism, which is why they.

01:04:49.000 So let it be. 0.86

01:04:50.000 No, it's our headquarters.

01:04:50.000 Let it be.

01:04:52.000 It's literally miles off of our coast.

01:04:53.000 Yeah, what?

01:04:54.000 So much.

01:04:55.000 Don Roe Doctrine, man.

01:04:57.000 The misplaced priorities of the ruling class.

01:05:00.000 Oh man, that's.

01:05:00.000 I'm just annoyed that they're there.

01:05:02.000 Like, it's making me mad.

01:05:03.000 Like, that's my.

01:05:04.000 I'm like, I'm very honest.

01:05:05.000 You know, Marco Rubio's like trying to like let, you know, Marco Rubio's trying to set the geopolitical table.

01:05:08.000 I'm like, just take, like, no one cares.

01:05:10.000 What's someone going to do something about it? 0.69

01:05:11.000 Like, there's a major, like, I'm not touching you vibe with Cuba right now. 1.00

01:05:14.000 They're like, I'm not touching you. 1.00

01:05:15.000 It's like, yeah, but it's, you're pissing me off.

01:05:17.000 Also, like, I get that foreign policy is a huge issue and like deeply unpopular for obvious reasons with Iran, but I think it's definitely an easier sell for the American people just by the mere fact that like Cuba is in our hemisphere.

01:05:31.000 Like, I actually think like the Venezuela thing was kind of.

01:05:34.000 Was not like the quagmire that people were scared it's going to be, not just because it literally was like a 40 minute operation, but also because it's like, oh, Trump was like, well, we just will get their oil and that's good for us.

01:05:45.000 And people are like, okay, that kind of makes sense, I guess.

01:05:48.000 Yeah, you have all the gaming commissions lining up to open casinos in Havana. 0.78

01:05:52.000 And I'm like, I don't care if it's, I'm sorry, I don't really care if it's good for Cubans.

01:05:56.000 I care if it's good for Americans.

01:05:57.000 Is Marco Rubio like, look, it's Florida, there's a Florida mafia in the White House. 0.98

01:06:01.000 You know, we're already like scared we might lose Florida and the governor's race because like Byron Donald's like kind of sucks. 0.91

01:06:06.000 So, We kind of got to get a W here. 0.70

01:06:09.000 This will fire up not just Cubans, but like from what I understand, because I'm one of these people that just like paints broad brushstrokes across the world. 0.93

01:06:15.000 As I understand it, there's other Hispanic groups that are also like would like to see Cuba fall.

01:06:20.000 Probably not Mexicans, but like Nicaraguans, I think would be quite excited to see Cuba fall because that indicates that things could change in their country.

01:06:26.000 So again, like, you know, you make a play on Cuba soon, right before the midterms.

01:06:31.000 If it's another success like Venezuela, that's a boost in the polls.

01:06:34.000 I think that plays well with the American population. 0.96

01:06:36.000 Yeah, I mean, the Venezuela thing was just like really fucking cool. 1.00

01:06:40.000 Honestly, it was and some people had libtards that were like, it's kind of sick. 1.00

01:06:43.000 Yeah, or a deficit was like, here. 1.00

01:06:45.000 Everyone is, everyone's like, when they first came out, all like the, you know, people dubbed the panic and it's like, oh, we're going to get like a massive like refugee crisis or something.

01:06:53.000 But like, that didn't happen, right?

01:06:55.000 So, like, if the negative effects of what people always have problems with on a geopolitical scale aren't there, then there's the cons list gets much, much shorter.

01:07:05.000 And, you know, got again, got to go back to the Don Roe doctrine thing.

01:07:09.000 Like, Because every, you know, if Mexico is such a problem because of, of course, the border and then the drugs, and the thing is, all these nationals from all these other countries who have their own weird terrorist leanings come in through Mexico.

01:07:24.000 So fixing the border doesn't just solve Mexico, it solves all the problems that then get brought to Mexico, just like dealing with Cuba deals all the problems that get funneled through Cuba.

01:07:34.000 Yeah.

01:07:34.000 And so these kind of things are actually like much more important, I agree, than like on the other side of the world.

01:07:38.000 And there's something to be said about the fact, and people have made this is not my thing, this is me regurgitating what people have speculated, is that, you know, the Trump administration. 0.95

01:07:45.000 Keeps getting jammed up on domestic policy because of courts, because Congress is like horrible and retarded again. 0.87

01:07:50.000 So, like, there's a lot of ways that the Trump agenda is getting jammed up domestically. 0.98

01:07:54.000 Some people have observed that that could be the reason he's making such drastic plays in foreign policy internationally, is because that is one realm what the executive branch has.

01:08:04.000 They can basically do whatever they want, they can exert his will unfettered.

01:08:08.000 Whenever someone says that he's doing something internationally, why don't you not focus on that and do something domestically?

01:08:15.000 It's like, He doesn't just have the, like, oh yeah, I would just, of course, I'm not doing that because I'm doing this.

01:08:19.000 It's like, well, I can't do that, but I can do this.

01:08:23.000 Yeah, it's like the Trump administration, they declare a war on Iran, and someone's like, why didn't you focus on mass deportations?

01:08:28.000 And they're like, oh, yeah, why didn't we do that?

01:08:31.000 And it's like, no, I mean, there's a little bit more to it.

01:08:33.000 I mean, I agree, like, there's a bit of frustration over how we've allocated political capital.

01:08:37.000 I think there's a big conversation to be had there, and I would broadly agree.

01:08:40.000 But I think that's true is that, look, Trump is obviously this kind of generational, he's a turning point in American history.

01:08:47.000 We're going to call this era the Trump era.

01:08:50.000 He wants to make his mark on, and he wants to.

01:08:52.000 I think he wants to mop up all of these.

01:08:54.000 He's in legacy mode.

01:08:55.000 And he's trying to mop up a lot of these international situations that a lot of presidents either didn't want to touch or they didn't have the backing to touch or they didn't know how to fix.

01:08:55.000 Yeah.

01:09:05.000 And I think that explains part of his thinking here.

01:09:07.000 As he said, well, Cuba has been jamming us up geopolitically for decades. 0.82

01:09:12.000 I could be the guy that solves that. 0.93

01:09:13.000 And then I go in the history books. 0.95

01:09:14.000 And if Iran gets mopped up somewhat well, or at least we get out of it in one piece, Then, yeah, I mean, maybe Cuba and Venezuela are the ones that make it to the history books, and Iran's like, wow, you know, it was a bad idea.

01:09:25.000 Sorry to pivot, hard pivot, but it just came out that Tulsi Gabbard resigned.

01:09:30.000 Oh, really?

01:09:31.000 Sorry, I sent it in the Slack.

01:09:32.000 It was just hard pivot, but I was trying to verify it.

01:09:34.000 That's an important one.

01:09:35.000 So I had to send that.

01:09:36.000 It's in the Slack for IRL.

01:09:38.000 That would have been the lead.

01:09:39.000 Yeah, I'm so sorry.

01:09:40.000 That just breaks the fifth wall or fourth, whatever wall.

01:09:42.000 So sorry, you guys.

01:09:43.000 Yeah, it's just pre recorded.

01:09:44.000 It's just been happening, right?

01:09:45.000 I mean, we actually, yeah, I forgot about that.

01:09:48.000 I thought she was going to resign with the Joe Kent stuff.

01:09:51.000 She said.

01:09:53.000 No, I have it here from Fox and exclusive.

01:09:55.000 It said that her husband was diagnosed with an extremely rare form of bone cancer, is what she wrote in her resignation letter.

01:10:02.000 I mean, I'm sure that did happen, but I'm not buying that's the exact reason she's.

01:10:06.000 You know what's interesting is, you know, there's a lot of dunking that can be put on Laura Loomer, right?

01:10:12.000 You know, everyone has a bone to pick with Laura Loomer.

01:10:14.000 Sure.

01:10:14.000 But when she reports on DC Scoops, she's usually pretty right.

01:10:19.000 She reported a few weeks ago that Tulsi Garbett would resign in a few weeks.

01:10:23.000 And then the headline comes through.

01:10:24.000 There's something to be said about it.

01:10:25.000 You're just like not going to out gossip a Jewish girl.

01:10:25.000 I'm sorry.

01:10:27.000 You can't do it.

01:10:29.000 You can't do it.

01:10:30.000 It's true.

01:10:31.000 That heritage, for the record, has been disputed.

01:10:33.000 Oh, really?

01:10:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:34.000 I guess.

01:10:35.000 I feel dark.

01:10:36.000 I don't know.

01:10:37.000 I've seen that, but it's like, what's the argument?

01:10:40.000 What's the argument?

01:10:40.000 She just doesn't know how to draw a star of David.

01:10:43.000 It's not like they teach you.

01:10:44.000 I think it's.

01:10:45.000 They have like training courses or something.

01:10:46.000 Yeah. 0.70

01:10:47.000 It's called Hebrew stuff.

01:10:48.000 I thought that's what business was.

01:10:50.000 It's not like, you know, you learn verse mortgages and stuff.

01:10:54.000 I don't know. 0.56

01:10:54.000 I've seen people like trace her like, Family, because like everyone is like a Rosenberg and a Friedman, like in her family tree. 0.56

01:10:59.000 So I don't know.

01:11:00.000 Regardless, I mean, we were talking geopolitics, and this has a huge implication because a lot of people have, you know, pointed out correctly that Tulsi Gabbard, historically very anti intervention.

01:11:09.000 I mean, you would have to think she's been biting her tongue for the last two, three months over Iran.

01:11:13.000 I mean, people have said Vance, you know, people, you know, have pointed out Vance has gone a bit quiet since the Iran war started.

01:11:19.000 Is that a sign that he is like deeply opposed to the war, or is that maybe him just shifting strategy?

01:11:24.000 Regardless, we're seeing scalps.

01:11:25.000 We're seeing Tulsi Gabbard, obviously Joe Kent.

01:11:28.000 You know, there's been a few more quiet dismissals that were appointees that have left the foray.

01:11:34.000 And I think this just adds to, again, there's just a shift.

01:11:38.000 There's a shift happening in the Trump administration right now.

01:11:41.000 Well, I think Tulsi's been looking for a way out for a while.

01:11:44.000 And I'm sure that her husband has a bit of, you know, that's part of it, right?

01:11:48.000 Her husband being sick, that's probably part of the reason why she decided to resign when she did.

01:11:52.000 But I do think there was that timing coincided and she was like, okay, this is a reason that's not going to slam the administration, that's not going to make anybody look bad.

01:12:02.000 But it's also an offshoot of what we saw with Massey this week.

01:12:04.000 It's either get on Team Trump or get off the boat.

01:12:08.000 I think she's been wavering a bit because she's reversed a lot of her positions that she had prior to joining the administration.

01:12:14.000 So I think it was kind of something that was inevitable.

01:12:16.000 She was one of those people that was not going to get on Team Trump completely.

01:12:19.000 Yeah, I totally agree. 0.76

01:12:20.000 And I think people have forgotten she ran as a Democrat. 1.00

01:12:22.000 She was a Democrat. 0.90

01:12:23.000 But she was also a congresswoman, like a Democrat congresswoman. 0.99

01:12:26.000 Literally.

01:12:26.000 It's not that she just happened to be a Democrat, like RFK, where he has the plausible deniability of, oh, I just shifted my views.

01:12:31.000 She casted votes that were in lockstep with the Democrat agenda. 0.64

01:12:36.000 She was, again, ran for president as a Democrat.

01:12:39.000 And, okay, yes, she was outflanking pretty much the entire field on the right on a few issues.

01:12:43.000 But on the majority of issues, again, no one would have really batted an eye.

01:12:46.000 And she did garner support in a Democrat primary.

01:12:50.000 But I think that has more to say about, again, what the Trump administration was trying to do going into this term than it does about her, than it does about the Democrat base.

01:12:57.000 Because, you know, some people said, well, the Democrats, they're going to moderate.

01:13:00.000 And it's like, well, that's not the base.

01:13:01.000 That's besides the point.

01:13:02.000 I think this indicates to your point, Chris.

01:13:04.000 I mean, I think it's true, is I think the Trump administration right now, the atmosphere, the mood is purge people that are disloyal because we're in a time right now, a lot of media pressure, a lot of longtime Trump allies have flipped on them.

01:13:17.000 Right now, max loyalty is sort of the culture, the environment.

01:13:21.000 And I can't actually really blame the Trump administration.

01:13:23.000 I mean, again, when you're bleeding allies, this is the time to close ranks.

01:13:26.000 When everyone loves you, it's quite easy to let anyone in.

01:13:28.000 It's like, all right, yeah, let's build this big coalition.

01:13:30.000 But again, once that coalition breaks down, at least in the media, I mean, I still think the base by and large, obviously, I mean, Trump scalped all of his opponents in the last primary cycle.

01:13:39.000 It indicates that the base is probably a bit more on board with the Trump agenda than a lot of people have pointed out.

01:13:44.000 But I think it's true, the general atmosphere, the general mood right now is tight in ranks.

01:13:48.000 It's kind of what you get when you stitch together such a big coalition.

01:13:51.000 I mean, like Tulsi.

01:13:52.000 She was definitely a big part of the reason why a lot of the independents got on board. 0.56

01:13:58.000 She was very famously, obviously, anti war.

01:14:01.000 And so I can imagine her being in a position where she is having a lot of this happen right in front of her.

01:14:06.000 And there are even reports, I have no idea if this is true or not, of her being cut out of certain intelligence meetings because she just did not see eye to eye with the administration on certain things that were very important, not just within the political sense, but to voters.

01:14:20.000 These are things that you've seen a lot of discourse online, at least I have.

01:14:24.000 Where people feel like she's kind of forced to violate her conscience in this position.

01:14:28.000 And so, similar to what Joe Kent said when he resigned.

01:14:30.000 And so, I imagine it's probably something similar going on.

01:14:33.000 It's interesting because, you know, this kind of, again, we got to start talking about 2028.

01:14:37.000 The primary starts next year.

01:14:38.000 And there's this kind of understanding that if Rubio and Vance run against each other, we could see a situation in which the Vance camp is kind of this ensemble of, you know, Trump aligned people, but they've had massive disagreements with the administration and they got off the train.

01:14:52.000 And then the Rubio camp may be more of sort of the more.

01:14:55.000 Establishment elements, but also some of the loyalists that say, okay, I'll play ball at the establishment to get the football down the field.

01:15:01.000 And that's going to put the base in a bit of a dilemma here because, again, you have really popular.

01:15:04.000 I mean, Tulsi is a very popular figure.

01:15:07.000 I would say extremely popular within the Trump base, but I think nationally, I think a lot of people still have a soft spot for it.

01:15:12.000 I mean, I don't want to put words in Tim's mouth, but as I remember, if I remember correctly, he was already leaning towards Trump.

01:15:17.000 But again, Tulsi getting added to the roster is kind of what really made it like a lot of people were in that situation where they were like, Trump's saying the right things, but having a lot of these people added to the coalition.

01:15:28.000 Tulsi, RFK, that gave independents and a lot of undecided voters permission to vote for him because they were like, oh, well, if you're willing to bring these people into the fold, you are kind of extending an olive branch to somebody who is not traditionally a Republican, but has concerns that the administration said they cared about.

01:15:45.000 And the fracturing, sorry, the fracturing of that coalition has also sort of trickled down to the fracturing of MAGA, I think.

01:15:51.000 I mean, you're absolutely right.

01:15:53.000 And this is the thing, right?

01:15:54.000 It's like, you know, and the midterms are going to be a really big sign of, Of where things are going.

01:15:59.000 Of course, like you're saying, the primaries have shown that the base is still kind of completely behind Trump, whatever he says.

01:16:08.000 But Trump understands that whatever he has to get, whatever he can get done in these four years, and that's almost like half gone at this point.

01:16:15.000 And at the end of those four years, if everyone is a much better off, that's going to be reflected in what the legacy is of not just his term, but who carries on the torch for that.

01:16:27.000 And so it's like, okay, he did all these things to get elected.

01:16:30.000 And it's like, what I would imagine everyone wants is for things to get better.

01:16:34.000 And everyone has their kind of maybe like more pet issues or things they care more about.

01:16:38.000 But if the general well being of the people, Is better after his four years, then he will have done the correct job.

01:16:44.000 And if he finds that these people are in his way, and not just that, he gets all this criticism from people on the right who say, You're not doing enough of this.

01:16:51.000 You're not doing enough deportations.

01:16:53.000 The economy is this.

01:16:55.000 So he's like, Okay, well, I'm trying to do these things and I feel these people are in my way.

01:16:59.000 So it's in his best interest to, like he's saying, streamline full speed ahead.

01:17:03.000 Because if he doesn't get it done, then everyone has legitimate criticism, right?

01:17:07.000 Because he has the full term to show his deal.

01:17:12.000 And, you know, it's again, like, it's on him to actually, like, Come through with all that.

01:17:17.000 Yeah, I completely agree.

01:17:18.000 And I think, yeah, if, again, if tightening ranks is what it takes to achieve domestic victories, then so be it.

01:17:24.000 I think with Tulsi's, at least the reported reason she left, she's citing her husband, the bone cancer.

01:17:30.000 I think that indicates that her departure is not going to be like the Joe Kent departure where he leaves and he's on Tucker the next day.

01:17:36.000 Yeah.

01:17:36.000 Where I think Tulsi, this indicates that maybe she's just going to kind of step aside and then I don't know.

01:17:40.000 We'll see what happens in the future because she's very young by political, you know, in political terms.

01:17:44.000 She's, I mean, like what, 40 or early 40s.

01:17:46.000 She's an infant, an infant by the way.

01:17:48.000 She's a baby.

01:17:49.000 Compared to DC, yeah.

01:17:50.000 Yeah.

01:17:51.000 So we'll have to see which direction Tulsi goes.

01:17:54.000 I imagine it's going to be fairly quiet.

01:17:55.000 But I mean, to your point, yeah.

01:17:57.000 I mean, I think, look, Trump's consolidating right now.

01:17:59.000 And again, if this manifests in domestic victories, then yeah, I mean, true.

01:18:03.000 But again, if this doesn't manifest in further domestic victories, if Iran continues to be jammed up, you know, a lot of Republican voters are going to have some tough conversations going into the midterms, but certainly going to the primaries.

01:18:14.000 I think it just gives your MTG wing more fuel going into the primaries.

01:18:18.000 JD Vance can't step up to the plate.

01:18:20.000 If Rubio decides not to run, who is the successor?

01:18:22.000 I don't really know.

01:18:23.000 That's the difficult thing about managing such a large coalition that inevitably will fracture in many important places is that now you aren't really left with an obvious heir to the throne.

01:18:35.000 Everyone's kind of floating Vance or Rubio, but the reason they're floating those two names is because they kind of represent very broadly, and I'm sure there's a bunch of overlap, but they broadly represent more of the anti foreign wars people going more in the Vance camp than you hear people who are.

01:18:52.000 More enthusiastic about interventionism kind of backing Rubio.

01:18:56.000 I think this is a fault line that's going to be really important for future election cycles.

01:19:02.000 Midterms, I think, will be a good way to see how this kind of plays out because it's like, yeah, there are definitely some speed bumps from trying to implement domestic policy for sure.

01:19:11.000 We can't even get the Save America Act passed in the Senate.

01:19:14.000 And it's literally just because there's no will to do it.

01:19:18.000 There's no procedural issue with trying to get it done.

01:19:21.000 If they wanted to, they totally would.

01:19:23.000 But Like, honestly, there is kind of a feeling, I think, where, like, yeah, uh, actually, a lot of our priorities at home maybe are not being considered the same way or kind of put on the back burner right now because we're busy doing all this other stuff.

01:19:37.000 Yeah, I mean, that certainly seems to be the mood, even among Trump loyalists.

01:19:41.000 I would say that is a bit of a concern.

01:19:42.000 I mean, this is why you know it's interesting.

01:19:44.000 I think I consider myself part of the broader, you know, Trump loyalist, you know, branch of the Republican Party.

01:19:50.000 I'm exceptionally loyal to Trump again.

01:19:52.000 I believe he's the only show in town, quite frankly.

01:19:54.000 That's the main reason for a lot of my support.

01:19:56.000 But I'd be lying. 0.81

01:19:56.000 I mean, I've been opposed to the Iran wars at the outset. 0.81

01:19:59.000 That's usually the first spot where really loyal MAGA supporters have started to kind of turn away or to say, you know, like to voice their disapproval was the war.

01:20:09.000 That was like the first breaking point for even some of the most loyal.

01:20:12.000 I think the first breaking point was when he said, Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

01:20:16.000 Yeah.

01:20:16.000 I think that's what's happening.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, that too.

01:20:18.000 Yeah, I mean, that aside, but like, you know, I think when it comes to like kind of your policy wonks, again, I think for me, I'm still going to be, you know, backing Trump.

01:20:27.000 I'm still very pro Trump. 0.50

01:20:28.000 But again, Iran, it's one of those things where it's like, I'm opposed. 0.99

01:20:32.000 I'm hearing you out. 1.00

01:20:33.000 It was kind of a wait and see, maybe at the beginning.

01:20:35.000 And I'm like, it kind of played out the way I thought it'd be.

01:20:37.000 I thought the bond market would melt down.

01:20:39.000 I thought food would shoot through the roof.

01:20:40.000 I thought gas would shoot through the roof.

01:20:41.000 I thought our East Asian allies were going to be in a bad spot. 0.98

01:20:44.000 And that's all manifested.

01:20:45.000 And it's like, well, this is.

01:20:46.000 He literally said that he wouldn't.

01:20:48.000 He was like, yeah, no new wars, guys.

01:20:50.000 And everyone was like, great.

01:20:51.000 I know.

01:20:52.000 I was, when he said that, I was like, what about Cuba and Venezuela?

01:20:54.000 I was like, wait, no, that's too liberal.

01:20:56.000 No.

01:20:56.000 And he was like, wait, if I call it an operation, do you think they'll notice?

01:20:59.000 It's like, yeah, well, we still notice it.

01:21:01.000 It's still pretty much war, actually.

01:21:03.000 But with that, I mean, I think.

01:21:05.000 The Tulsi story is just a footnote.

01:21:06.000 It's relatively unimportant compared to the story that ripped across the AP line this morning.

01:21:13.000 Everyone is talking about it.

01:21:14.000 Hooters says, Bring the kids.

01:21:16.000 This is per the New York Times.

01:21:18.000 The chain known for skimpy uniforms and bikini nights is trying to change its image.

01:21:25.000 Hooters onesies, anyone? 0.98

01:21:27.000 And then they just write a bunch of gay stuff here.

01:21:31.000 But the gist of the story is Hooters is making a pivot. 0.51

01:21:35.000 Obviously, they've been known for, again, the waitresses wearing quite skimpy clothes.

01:21:39.000 It puts husbands nationwide in a tough spot where they have to say, I just like the wings. 0.91

01:21:43.000 You know, it's been this kind of trope dog.

01:21:44.000 The wings are pretty good.

01:21:45.000 The wings are good.

01:21:46.000 Yeah.

01:21:46.000 And so are the fries.

01:21:47.000 You know, so there's two Hooters fans at the table, which is great.

01:21:50.000 I can't attest to their food. 0.72

01:21:51.000 I've never been, but I think maybe that's because I'm a Zoomer.

01:21:54.000 And I think people have pointed out that Zoomers, like, what, 40% are functionally asexuals.

01:21:58.000 Now, I don't consider myself an asexual. 0.51

01:22:00.000 I have a beautiful Foyd at home.

01:22:02.000 But yeah, this is, I think, concerning.

01:22:06.000 I think this isn't just a, oh, ha ha, like Hooters is making a business decision.

01:22:09.000 There's some jokes to be made here, but I do think this indicates that.

01:22:12.000 Like, American society is, you know, I'm going to make a broad philosophical point here over sexualized in the wrong ways and under sexualized in the right ways.

01:22:21.000 And you're seeing like really weird like results of this.

01:22:25.000 And the Hooters thing is just like fairly on the nose, kitschy, masculine sexuality manifested in a restaurant. 1.00

01:22:33.000 So they just look at her tits. 1.00

01:22:35.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:22:36.000 And the fact that it's like dying, again, I don't think indicates more prudishness in the American people.

01:22:42.000 I think it indicates like, This weird, like, kind of asexuality that's like manifest.

01:22:46.000 Well, you know, as a millennial, like, we were the last generation who were allowed to be like heterosexual.

01:22:52.000 Yeah, it's illegal to be a straight white guy.

01:22:54.000 Well, it's weird.

01:22:54.000 How are we supposed to like combat like drag queen brunch dancing with making Hooters less sexual?

01:23:04.000 But what's the story here? 0.57

01:23:05.000 How are they incentivizing this?

01:23:06.000 Is there some new rollout that they got going on or wardrobe change, marketing changes?

01:23:11.000 They're just going to try and make Hooters into, you know, any other, you know, chicken store.

01:23:15.000 But like, but That's not what makes it great.

01:23:17.000 Yeah, I don't understand.

01:23:18.000 I want to see the Hooters, right?

01:23:20.000 I know.

01:23:21.000 Again, you could be calling it nerfing it, neutering it, whatever it is.

01:23:26.000 Hucking it.

01:23:26.000 It's like.

01:23:27.000 Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it.

01:23:29.000 It ceases to be what it is.

01:23:30.000 Castrated.

01:23:31.000 There you go. 0.87

01:23:31.000 And you know what's. 0.87

01:23:32.000 What's funny is a lot of brands, institutions, whatever you want to call it, they kind of like defang themselves.

01:23:41.000 They kill the thing that is their whole identity that is actually.

01:23:47.000 Interesting or desirable or functional or whatever the attraction is.

01:23:50.000 And then, you know, people kind of try to like refine things so they become more efficient in this regard.

01:23:57.000 And it kills the.

01:23:59.000 Actually, it kills it. 1.00

01:24:00.000 It kills it.

01:24:01.000 Maybe it's a publicity stunt, like Cracker Barrel did.

01:24:03.000 And then they're going to go to Cracker Barrel again.

01:24:03.000 Yes, I did.

01:24:05.000 Did more people go to Cracker Barrel again?

01:24:06.000 Did that work?

01:24:07.000 Oh, it did.

01:24:07.000 I mean, people.

01:24:08.000 I think it was a publicity stunt.

01:24:09.000 Oh, but I'm saying, did it work, though?

01:24:10.000 Spotify recently tried.

01:24:11.000 I don't know what their numbers are, but there was so much backlash that I almost thought that this was.

01:24:15.000 Well, I hope it was like, we're I hope now and we're doing burgers.

01:24:19.000 I think they should try to call that seasonal.

01:24:21.000 But, you know, something that's interesting here, and I want to make this point, and this is a very real point.

01:24:25.000 I know Josh will back me up, so I'm glad he's here Hooters really.

01:24:29.000 It really epitomized the demographic overhaul of the United States because of the wardrobe change.

01:24:33.000 So, historically, the Hooters uniform emphasized, and I'm just going to use anatomical terms here emphasized the breasts, and the gluteus was kind of the junior partner.

01:24:42.000 Yeah, it was the afterthought.

01:24:44.000 And then they actually radically changed the uniform, where now, again, the caboose was now emphasized, and then the breasts were downgraded back to junior partner.

01:24:54.000 And what was interesting there is I think that actually indicated a lot of the demographic change in the United States because historically, white men.

01:24:59.000 We're interested in the breasts and then that Hooters has been undergoing third worldism. 0.66

01:25:04.000 It's been, it's becoming very brown coated. 0.96

01:25:06.000 I'm sorry, but it's just let's cut the brass tax here.

01:25:09.000 That's really interesting.

01:25:10.000 Yeah.

01:25:11.000 And then, I mean, that's quite a connection there.

01:25:12.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:25:13.000 Well, I think the wardrobe change amplifies that the country's becoming less white. 1.00

01:25:16.000 I mean, that's that's absolutely true. 1.00

01:25:18.000 So I used to like my friends and I would go to Hooters in high school and college because, like, as soon as you have a car, we would drive 50 miles to get there.

01:25:26.000 Not 50, but we would drive all the way to Long Beach.

01:25:28.000 So that's that's quite a ways.

01:25:30.000 Anyone from LA, you know.

01:25:32.000 And the traffic sets time spent driving to Long Beach, all the way to Long Beach.

01:25:35.000 Yeah, um, you're like pooling gas money together.

01:25:39.000 Yeah, I'm boring for the wings though, right?

01:25:41.000 The good wings, really.

01:25:42.000 I mean, I love I had buffalo wings last night at some wonderful local establishment here.

01:25:47.000 Pizza, it was no hooters, unfortunately.

01:25:48.000 It was no hooters, unfortunately.

01:25:49.000 Wings can't be understated, they are good.

01:25:51.000 I love, I love, the restaurant industry as it stands.

01:25:58.000 Like, you know, if you're a front facing in the restaurant industry, you have to present yourself in a certain way, right?

01:26:03.000 So, you have to be like, well put together, you know, this that thing, and so like. 0.97

01:26:06.000 It's a wonderful place for young, attractive women to get jobs. 1.00

01:26:09.000 Sure. 1.00

01:26:09.000 Right? 1.00

01:26:10.000 And make tips.

01:26:11.000 No tax on tips.

01:26:12.000 No tax on tips.

01:26:13.000 There you go. 1.00

01:26:14.000 And of course, the attractiveness of the girl is always a bonus. 1.00

01:26:19.000 Regardless of her wardrobe, everyone wants to see a pretty waitress that makes you feel better. 1.00

01:26:25.000 There's a trend where waitresses will try different hairstyles to see what hairstyles get them the most tips. 1.00

01:26:30.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:31.000 That's just really fascinating.

01:26:32.000 Depends on your hair.

01:26:33.000 I bet every person with their own kind of bonus.

01:26:36.000 It's almost always like braids.

01:26:38.000 Like two pigtail braids.

01:26:41.000 Every guy went out.

01:26:42.000 They're like, let's go.

01:26:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:44.000 Yeah, okay.

01:26:45.000 Okay.

01:26:45.000 Hey, but hey, let's, let's like, you know, let's give the guys the benefit of the doubt here.

01:26:49.000 As opposed to going to some sort of, you know, very inappropriate place that probably a word I can't even say on here. 0.96

01:26:55.000 Maybe the girls will.

01:26:55.000 Lolita.

01:26:56.000 She's just a young girl. 1.00

01:26:58.000 She needs to make some money. 0.99

01:26:59.000 You know? 1.00

01:27:00.000 Uh huh.

01:27:01.000 Fullsome guys here.

01:27:02.000 Yeah, it's really. 1.00

01:27:03.000 She's not a stripper, you know? 0.76

01:27:05.000 But look, you know, it's like, okay, man, we're already sexualizing the waitress as it is, right? 0.99

01:27:10.000 If you're a woman. 0.94

01:27:11.000 You know, it's like it's already happening, so just like allow them to lean into it, you know, have some fun with it. 0.99

01:27:16.000 It's it's harmful, but bringing kids there absolutely, you also, they were breastfeeding like four years. 0.89

01:27:23.000 And what are you talking about?

01:27:24.000 Okay, also, everyone's missing.

01:27:25.000 Have you been to Chili's? 1.00

01:27:26.000 You can't sexualize those waitresses. 1.00

01:27:28.000 I mean, it's unbelievable. 1.00

01:27:30.000 It's like my 600 pound life over there.

01:27:33.000 It's unbelievable.

01:27:33.000 Well, they wouldn't be able to move, but it's close.

01:27:35.000 Yeah, it looks like a DMV.

01:27:36.000 I'm sorry, you can't sexualize that.

01:27:38.000 Are you kidding me?

01:27:39.000 It's unbelievable.

01:27:40.000 Listen, you're saying there's a space that people ever like apply to work at Hooters.

01:27:43.000 Do you think I'll ever like?

01:27:45.000 They were like, technically, they are quite large, but so is the rest of me.

01:27:48.000 It's inflation.

01:27:49.000 Like, do you think there's like a ratio that.

01:27:51.000 Oh, there's definitely a high.

01:27:52.000 So Hooters used to be, they would, they used to be like, I have to think more about.

01:27:56.000 Some girl told me that you had to, like, this is when I was in middle school.

01:28:00.000 She's like, in order to work at Hooters, you have to walk up to a wall in your vests. 0.80

01:28:04.000 I heard that.

01:28:05.000 I know, I heard that.

01:28:07.000 Or this is what your face does. 0.98

01:28:08.000 Hooters used to hire based off of the attractiveness.

01:28:11.000 And then now it's based off of, like, skill. 0.99

01:28:13.000 And it's off of, like, if you're feeling stupid. 0.97

01:28:15.000 I was a waitress. 0.93

01:28:16.000 I'm sorry.

01:28:17.000 Like, there's personal things that you have to be, like, you know, nice and happy and all that.

01:28:21.000 But the skill level, I mean, you.

01:28:23.000 You're carrying things to a table like that.

01:28:25.000 I'm sorry, like, there's good balancing.

01:28:28.000 That's the most, yeah, exactly.

01:28:30.000 Like, there's, I know this is a low level, like a low resolution take on this, but I think it's positive. 0.96

01:28:35.000 At least in the gender goblin world that we live in, some level of femininity is being appreciated. 0.98

01:28:41.000 I'm here for it, even if they're kids. 1.00

01:28:43.000 I, you know, I just think that, yeah, but the conversation of not wanting kids to learn sexual things at a young age can't make it inherently sexual about them.

01:28:51.000 They're already learning it, you know.

01:28:53.000 I know, well, they do it, they're using it. 0.98

01:28:56.000 Yeah, these lip tarts do a bait and switch where they're like, oh, yeah, I'm going to take my kids to the gay, like the molestation party or whatever. 1.00

01:29:05.000 And then I'm like, that's wrong. 1.00

01:29:07.000 That's clearly wrong.

01:29:08.000 And they're like, oh, yeah, well, this guy on Twitter took his kid to Hooters one time.

01:29:11.000 And I'm like, that's still kind of weird, but not the same thing at all.

01:29:15.000 Not close, but you can totally steel man this.

01:29:18.000 We can steel man it.

01:29:19.000 I mean, look, you can make the argument that they're making it a little less sexual to invite more people.

01:29:26.000 But then they would have to.

01:29:27.000 I think the idea is to make it less sexual, is to inherently change what Hooters is about, which wouldn't work.

01:29:31.000 Well, look, at the end of the day, they're a business.

01:29:33.000 So, in their mind, they're like, if it's less sexual, then more families will bring their kids here, so we'll get more business.

01:29:39.000 Right, that's what I'm saying.

01:29:40.000 I guess. 0.84

01:29:41.000 But everyone's like asexual.

01:29:42.000 But how much divorce rates are going up anyway?

01:29:44.000 Like, where are all the divorced dads going to congregate?

01:29:46.000 What's interesting is, and this is part of the problem, is divorce rates have never been lower because the only people getting married are like dialed in.

01:29:46.000 No.

01:29:54.000 It still works then. 0.98

01:29:54.000 Like, where are all the weird unmarried dads? 0.98

01:29:57.000 Men are going to hang out. 0.89

01:29:58.000 They just die alone.

01:29:59.000 They're at home online. 1.00

01:30:01.000 They don't even have the common sense to go to a goddamn strip. 1.00

01:30:04.000 Go to Hooters. 1.00

01:30:05.000 Common sense.

01:30:06.000 And OnlyFans.

01:30:07.000 Common sense conservative.

01:30:08.000 We need to subsidize Hooters at this.

01:30:10.000 I think we need to reinvigorate what's going on.

01:30:13.000 Run on that.

01:30:15.000 Spencer Pratt, if you can hear me, please.

01:30:17.000 Spencer Pratt, please.

01:30:18.000 If you can hear me, please.

01:30:18.000 I say go in the other direction.

01:30:20.000 Subsidize Hooters. 1.00

01:30:20.000 Other direction. 1.00

01:30:21.000 Don't make it kid friendly at all.

01:30:23.000 Keep it what it is, but make it better.

01:30:25.000 They're top.

01:30:26.000 Okay, close.

01:30:27.000 Yes. 1.00

01:30:27.000 Get her up somewhere. 1.00

01:30:29.000 And then. 0.99

01:30:30.000 This is no kids, and then we can ban OnlyFans. 0.82

01:30:32.000 And now the wages. 0.99

01:30:33.000 We're going to take Cuba and make it a big Hooters. 0.98

01:30:36.000 It's going to be a big Hooters. 0.53

01:30:38.000 Yeah, but you know, this is a big problem. 0.92

01:30:40.000 This is a big problem is that, again, like everyone emphasizes like the most gruesome, horrific parts of like sexuality, which is like the women are reading like smut, like the most disturbing books you've ever seen in your entire life. 0.93

01:30:52.000 Like vampires. 0.88

01:30:53.000 Yeah, and then the men are like watching like the most disturbing pornography you've ever seen in your entire life. 0.75

01:30:57.000 But like normal, ordinary, boilerplate sexuality is like frowned upon.

01:31:01.000 So, uh, uh, I swear, I don't know from personal experience.

01:31:05.000 I just think I'm using what the culture is telling me as some information here. 0.56

01:31:12.000 The rise of OnlyFans, I think, actually shows that men are getting less fucked up into weird shit sexually and they want some sort of semblance of an emotional connection with the person that they're observing.

01:31:25.000 They can like pay to talk to talk because they want like they actually feel like, yeah, because you know, some girls will like post their earnings online and they show how much of it comes from like.

01:31:38.000 Tips in chats. 1.00

01:31:39.000 It's actually like for many girls, like the majority of it.

01:31:39.000 Sure.

01:31:42.000 So actually, you have a bunch of lonely guys that they're not looking for like a bunch of like depraved, weird, fucked up sex stuff. 0.99

01:31:49.000 They actually just like want someone to connect with. 0.97

01:31:53.000 And so, getting someone that you might have some kind of attraction to in, like, even a deeper sense, then you kind of get to see them in a sexual sense.

01:32:02.000 So, then you get a completely neutered and asexual, full romantic and sexual experience.

01:32:08.000 You never get to touch them.

01:32:09.000 Well, you never get to feel that.

01:32:10.000 Because I think the guys that have filtered into consuming OnlyFans content are the guys that would ordinarily just get girlfriends and wives.

01:32:16.000 I still think, like, the depraved guys who are into all the weird stuff are still engaging with that.

01:32:22.000 But now you've picked off a group of guys who would ordinarily be well adjusted, and now they're getting siloed into OnlyFans because the dating market's a train wreck.

01:32:29.000 Like, you know, they don't know how to put together a good hinge profile, which, you know, ChatGPT can do, by the way.

01:32:35.000 But, you know, it's like, what? 0.60

01:32:36.000 Okay, so like you were saying about the downfall of Hooters, though, you can't discount how many of just like the third world, a bunch of guys who would never ever get to meet these girls. 0.97

01:32:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:32:45.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

01:32:46.000 So, you know, they live in a whole different country.

01:32:48.000 Did you mention Hooters in Toronto?

01:32:50.000 Oh my gosh, dude.

01:32:51.000 It would be crazy.

01:32:52.000 When you started that sentence, I thought you were going to say Hooters in India, but you did say that.

01:32:56.000 Yeah, you did. 0.94

01:32:56.000 You basically did. 0.94

01:32:57.000 Yes. 1.00

01:32:58.000 The women working at a Hooters in Toronto would have the same combat experience as like a Navy SEAL. 1.00

01:33:02.000 They need security. 1.00

01:33:04.000 They would be grizzled, like veterans. 1.00

01:33:06.000 I mean, it would be unbelievable.

01:33:08.000 But also, like the chat thing, I imagine that, like, I think, yeah, probably there are some people who are just looking for like a personal connection.

01:33:15.000 And it's definitely easier to kind of like fake that or to have a similar experience just like online.

01:33:21.000 It's like definitely less intimidating than going up to a woman.

01:33:24.000 You can like just instead pay her $5 and like she'll say that like you're handsome or whatever. 0.95

01:33:29.000 But, like, I do think that it's still pretty much.

01:33:33.000 Okay.

01:33:34.000 And, like, it's still, it still is a trend that, like, from what I understand, that, like, women who get involved in OnlyFans or kind of like soft launch a career in this, you know, industry, if you want to call it, they eventually kind of up the ante because that does make them more money.

01:33:49.000 The crazier things that they do, at the end of the day, like, the more degenerate it becomes, the market is bigger and it's, they're willing to pay more for that sort of thing.

01:33:58.000 Like, that's very much still a reality.

01:34:00.000 No, I mean, look, again, it's like, I think what, What the guys are wanting is a sexual something, even if it's just visual, with someone who they feel like a degree of exclusivity.

01:34:12.000 Well, not even that.

01:34:13.000 It's like it feels more like approachable.

01:34:15.000 Like, that's because a porn star used to be this very artificial, overly done thing.

01:34:20.000 And it's like you couldn't touch her, not even because she would never look twice at you.

01:34:23.000 It's like she almost feels like an artificial object.

01:34:26.000 Overly produced.

01:34:27.000 Yeah, overly produced.

01:34:28.000 Versus, this is like the girl that walked by me at the grocery store.

01:34:32.000 That all of a sudden I was just like, oh my God, I'm in love with her.

01:34:34.000 It's like watching a box office hit versus going to a film festival.

01:34:39.000 People are so indie.

01:34:41.000 I got to say it.

01:34:42.000 I'm like more into indie stuff.

01:34:43.000 I want to know more.

01:34:44.000 That's funny.

01:34:45.000 That pipeline you're talking about is being brilliantly dramatized right now on the HBO series Euphoria in season three.

01:34:52.000 I've never seen it.

01:34:53.000 I've never seen it.

01:34:54.000 Well, it's not for the faint of heart.

01:34:56.000 It's really rough.

01:34:56.000 It is, but they do dramatize a lot of the stuff that is actually impacting young people at that age.

01:35:03.000 The Sydney Sweeney character is going through that exact pipeline from, well, how far can I take it?

01:35:06.000 Oh, there's gonna be more money.

01:35:08.000 Oh, well, is this gonna give me a pole vault into Hollywood?

01:35:10.000 And it really, I think it's a very insightful, brilliant show.

01:35:13.000 I would even say that, like, the Sydney Sweeney, and I haven't seen, I've only seen like a couple scenes from the new season.

01:35:19.000 I haven't seen the whole show in its entirety.

01:35:21.000 So maybe I'm not the most qualified to say, but like, I wouldn't even say that her storyline, the OnlyFans storyline, is overly dramatized.

01:35:28.000 I'd say that's like very realistic, actually.

01:35:30.000 And I thought it was refreshing to see, you know, such a huge show that's so huge in pop culture.

01:35:37.000 Accurately represent something that so many women have been convinced is like totally chill and super empowering and just like a great way to make a quick buck. 0.81

01:35:45.000 Because there are definitely girls that I went to like high school with or that I've worked with who, you know, were like, oh, shoot, I, and I like need money really quick or like, or they think that it's that they have all of the power in that scenario. 1.00

01:35:58.000 And they, you know, start in OnlyFans and they're able to make thousands and thousands of dollars by exploiting themselves.

01:36:04.000 It's, it's like, it's a really, I don't think it can be overstated how kind of depressing it is to see people that you went to school with, you know, do things like that.

01:36:14.000 You know, so when we were, Talking before about how, like, uh, talking about crime and how things were like segregated, yeah.

01:36:20.000 So, it used to be like if you were like a porn star or something, you're like in that kind of like part of society and you're like removed from all of us, like normal people.

01:36:28.000 And so, it's like it's okay when it's that, like, you had to go to the store and buy like a magazine and be embarrassed if you wanted to do it.

01:36:34.000 And if you wanted to be a porn star, you had to put yourself in a really weird situation.

01:36:38.000 They used to want it, they had to fight for it.

01:36:41.000 How many casting couches have you been on? 0.97

01:36:42.000 Damn it, no, but like, really, like, you know, you had these people who, like. 1.00

01:36:46.000 They were already fucked up. 0.99

01:36:48.000 And so it's kind of like we have a segregated population of the society that does these things, and we're all normal people. 0.99

01:36:56.000 And okay, we've got to peek behind the curtain, but that's about it.

01:36:59.000 It used to be in the shadows, but now it's domesticated.

01:37:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:01.000 It's much more devastating when it hits close to home that it's like your own friends.

01:37:07.000 Yeah.

01:37:08.000 Like Matt, you know, your father, your own daughters.

01:37:11.000 It's like, oh, we're a normal family.

01:37:13.000 And then this is just happening in schools.

01:37:16.000 That's when it becomes way more destructive when the people who are.

01:37:21.000 Part of normal society, or at least trying to be normal, it gets into there, and that's like where things get really.

01:37:25.000 I've also seen videos where, like, the siblings of some of these OnlyFans girls who have like younger brothers, oh my gosh, and they're like, it's so bad.

01:37:33.000 I don't know, they're pleading with their sister who thinks that like what she's doing is totally insulated and harmless.

01:37:38.000 Like, guys getting destroyed, and he's like, I'm getting bullied relentlessly at school.

01:37:43.000 I've seen things I cannot unsee.

01:37:45.000 Like, you are ruining my life for like some sort of superficial, you know, attempts to like make a bunch of money.

01:37:51.000 I mean, they are making a bunch of money, that's not superficial, but like.

01:37:54.000 It's like fake empowerment.

01:37:56.000 Like, you are kind of degrading yourself more and more, unfortunately.

01:37:56.000 It's not real.

01:38:00.000 And it's not just you, the person that's doing OnlyFans that's suffering from it.

01:38:04.000 It's the people around them, it's their family members, it's their future children who are going to have to grow up seeing that their mom's digital footprint is not just like cringe selfies from middle school.

01:38:14.000 It's like literally pornography.

01:38:16.000 Yeah, especially because it's like, I mean, to your point, yeah, it used to be the freaks over here, and then this hits close to home. 0.98

01:38:22.000 But, I mean, women already have. 1.00

01:38:25.000 Like an easy source of it. 1.00

01:38:27.000 They have the laptop jobs. 1.00

01:38:28.000 Women can just do the laptop jobs. 1.00

01:38:30.000 Like, you know, the only thing you really got to go there is the remote corporate nine to five. 1.00

01:38:33.000 There's already a reliable source of income that's like very, like, women centric already. 0.93

01:38:38.000 Why do that? 1.00

01:38:39.000 Just get the laptop job.

01:38:40.000 It's equally as demeaning, but at least you're not going to offend your brother.

01:38:43.000 Yeah, but they make millions of dollars.

01:38:45.000 Like, some of the girls. 1.00

01:38:46.000 And I will say, like, probably like 1% of them. 1.00

01:38:48.000 I was going to say, I do think it's totally overstated how many of these girls get like filthy rich. 1.00

01:38:53.000 But, like, you see women, especially, are so influential. 1.00

01:38:56.000 And, like, these videos from. 1.00

01:38:58.000 OnlyFans girls who have social media profiles that are not pornographic, like that's just like a day in my life, they're exorbitantly rich. 1.00

01:39:04.000 They're flying all their friends out to Coachella. 1.00

01:39:07.000 They have all of like the expensive bags and everything like that.

01:39:10.000 And most girls, I think, to an extent, look at that and they're like, wow, that's desirable, you know, and they feel they're convinced that it's within reach.

01:39:19.000 So I think, like, yeah, I do think that you could just do your nine to five and answer emails all day.

01:39:24.000 But I think girls, some girls, see what could be and are motivated by that.

01:39:30.000 It's crazy.

01:39:31.000 I mean, it's absolutely unbelievable.

01:39:33.000 I mean, on that note, do we have questions ready to go yet?

01:39:36.000 We are asking for them to roll in now.

01:39:39.000 Asking for the questions.

01:39:40.000 Yeah.

01:39:40.000 I mean, there's still like many points that can be made on that.

01:39:43.000 I mean, one thing is Hooters probably siphoned off a lot of these women that would ordinarily go into, again, into OnlyFans and these sorts of things.

01:39:50.000 Because I think partially, like, it's this, again, it's this weird sense.

01:39:54.000 I'm trying to drill down on it, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

01:39:56.000 But it's like, it's almost like people are repressed because they don't have access to sex because, like, marriages and relationships have completely broken down.

01:40:05.000 But at the same time, they're over sexualized in a way where there's no exclusivity to it anymore.

01:40:10.000 And this goes far beyond what we're talking about, like, obviously, over pornography and stuff, is like people.

01:40:15.000 Even like in the evangelical world, they will just like spill their guts about their like sex life and this sort of thing.

01:40:19.000 Like, you'll see these weird TikToks where it's like, yeah, where it's like, here's how we like brought like Spice back into the bedroom.

01:40:26.000 And I'm like, you're two fairly normal people, and I'm like learning about your sex.

01:40:30.000 It's like horrifying.

01:40:31.000 Mr. Feeney recently.

01:40:32.000 Mr. Feeney from Oh my God, I saw that.

01:40:34.000 He's 99.

01:40:35.000 He's talking about how their open marriage.

01:40:36.000 Oh, no.

01:40:38.000 Literally, Mr. Feeney.

01:40:39.000 And his wife is still alive.

01:40:40.000 They're both still alive.

01:40:40.000 She's like 96.

01:40:41.000 And their open marriage saved their relationship.

01:40:44.000 Was there a story in the New York Times?

01:40:46.000 What, Marion?

01:40:47.000 What, like, you made it.

01:40:48.000 Like, what's left to say?

01:40:49.000 Does that mean you're the same?

01:40:51.000 Okay, yeah, fair enough.

01:40:52.000 I want to know less.

01:40:53.000 Right, no, no.

01:40:54.000 I told you.

01:40:55.000 It was like a kid's show, like a kid's sitcom, whatever thing.

01:40:58.000 Like, literally, for my entire child, it was like my favorite show as a kid.

01:41:02.000 And, like, Mr. Feeney is this dude's teacher from literally from like fourth grade, like through college somehow.

01:41:09.000 He's his next door neighbor, and he's like the, you know, the, the, the.

01:41:13.000 You don't know Boy Meets World?

01:41:14.000 No, it's not.

01:41:17.000 Oh, man.

01:41:18.000 I think it'd be like if SpongeBob had OnlyFans.

01:41:20.000 But, like, you know, okay, so this guy is like, you know, he's literally like the wise older man.

01:41:24.000 I forgot.

01:41:25.000 Yeah, no, no.

01:41:25.000 He's the wise older man that, like, cares about you because he's, like, literally your next door neighbor, literal next door neighbor, and he's, like, your teacher your whole life.

01:41:32.000 So, for, like, for, I feel like my generation, we kind of grew up, like, he was sort of this, like, weird paternalistic guy.

01:41:38.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:41:39.000 Absolutely.

01:41:39.000 And it's like, you know, see, this is the thing when people try to, like, break down walls.

01:41:44.000 Like, look, everyone has sex.

01:41:45.000 Like, this is, like, well, not everyone, but, like, you know, it's a normal thing.

01:41:49.000 And it's fine and it's good.

01:41:50.000 And we can sort of, again, like there's the thing over there that lets you get into the weird stuff and also just like do whatever you do in the privacy of your own home.

01:41:59.000 And you know, you can like allude, but then it's like you're just like talking openly to promote to the whole world all these weird details.

01:42:05.000 And it's like, no one needs to know that.

01:42:08.000 Like, I, yeah, it's so awesome that him and his wife are having sex in their 90s.

01:42:13.000 That's great.

01:42:14.000 But like, why are we talking about it?

01:42:16.000 And not only that, there's no sense of privacy.

01:42:18.000 But then it's like, and then the open, it's just like, dude.

01:42:21.000 It's all across.

01:42:22.000 Everyone's just spilling their guts all the time.

01:42:24.000 I'm like, am I the only person that keeps my life fairly private?

01:42:27.000 You need to confide about these things with your friends.

01:42:27.000 But look, okay, look.

01:42:30.000 And even in very few friends.

01:42:30.000 Right.

01:42:32.000 We just don't have clear lines anymore because we all have our phones and we're on social media.

01:42:38.000 And so what it means is to say your things like that, a random thought that you have, you put out on a tweet and it could get millions of views and you can lose your job.

01:42:49.000 And it's just weird.

01:42:50.000 That's the kind of world we live in.

01:42:51.000 And it's going to be really weird to see the.

01:42:54.000 The kind of like snapback rubber band effect from that.

01:42:56.000 Because, okay, my first thought, like in the last few days, I was just like, I mean, this is, I'm not the first person to say this, but like, we're going to get to the point where every single person running for political office has had social media since they were a kid.

01:43:07.000 Yeah.

01:43:08.000 And it's going to be unscrubbable.

01:43:09.000 And so we're all, it's just no longer going to become a problem.

01:43:13.000 All the Harry Potter fan accounts, like the One Direction, like, imagine.

01:43:16.000 I don't even know.

01:43:18.000 Listen, I felt that was postmodern.

01:43:20.000 But like, what do you do?

01:43:22.000 What do you do when like everyone has said, Inappropriate things, sexual things, slurs, whatever it is. 1.00

01:43:30.000 But that's why you had this lady that was running in the 13th district in Michigan. 1.00

01:43:35.000 Oh, of course. 1.00

01:43:35.000 She's completely leaned into it. 1.00

01:43:37.000 She sees the writing on the wall of what you have to do in the future.

01:43:40.000 The October surprise.

01:43:42.000 Anyway, we are going to read some discord.

01:43:45.000 We got to get to these people's questions.

01:43:46.000 Everyone is just blowing up our line.

01:43:49.000 They're hitting a brother on the hip here.

01:43:50.000 Let's see what they have to say.

01:43:52.000 From Taylor Lorenz's ex wife, I'll just open this to the panel.

01:43:57.000 How would you feel about the retro Pizza Hut bringing back the old Hooters style outfits?

01:44:03.000 That'd be a crazy collab.

01:44:04.000 I don't know, because I didn't experience, you know, everyone's like going on about the retro Pizza Hut.

01:44:08.000 I know what they look like, but like I didn't experience Prime Pizza Hut.

01:44:10.000 This guy's like a franchise owner and he's got like 80 locations.

01:44:13.000 Amazing.

01:44:14.000 I'm doing that to all of them.

01:44:15.000 But wait, are they saying what if we had the Pizza Hut people wear the Hooters?

01:44:18.000 I think they're trying to hide it.

01:44:20.000 You're just kind of like ruining it.

01:44:22.000 Yeah, you're ruining it.

01:44:23.000 You're like, you can't reinvent.

01:44:24.000 Yeah, you're just like, you just throw a bunch of nostalgia together.

01:44:28.000 That is nostalgia sloppy.

01:44:29.000 Because by the time Pizza Hut got to me, it was already sloppified.

01:44:32.000 I guess I, apparently, and I didn't grow up going to Pizza Hut.

01:44:38.000 I don't think it was cool when I was.

01:44:40.000 No, you missed the boat. 0.98

01:44:41.000 And like, my parents aren't from America, so like, we wouldn't eat.

01:44:44.000 I didn't have like a lot of important American experiences.

01:44:48.000 Growing up, but like from what I understand, people would like go, like their families would go together and sit down in this restaurant and eat together.

01:44:59.000 So, so like people don't even, people just door dash everything.

01:45:02.000 So, going out, like we didn't really go out to Pizza Hut, but like going out for pizza was a thing, like pizza night, you know.

01:45:11.000 And so, like going out to it, like I mean, I got pizza last night, um, and I was like the only person in the whole place, but um.

01:45:18.000 You know, people, people, I mean, going out to dinner is, of course, not a novel concept and people still do it.

01:45:24.000 But there was kind of this more like, we're going to go out and have an experience that's not just like.

01:45:29.000 I think that's what they're trying to bring back.

01:45:30.000 Because, you know, what the millennials, like the hipster millennials did, this is like the 2010s were, we're bringing all this like higher quality food to places and kind of like industrial setting and like artisanal stuff and the micro breweries and all that kind of stuff.

01:45:45.000 And it's like.

01:45:46.000 And that's cool.

01:45:47.000 Like, dude, like now you can get like a grass fed burger and tallow fries and organic, and like that's great.

01:45:52.000 But there's something kind of like weirdly wholesome.

01:45:55.000 Not like the ingredients have to be bad, but like the kind of wholesome family experience.

01:46:00.000 That doesn't have to be something trying to be greater than it is.

01:46:03.000 It's just like, this is just like fun and awesome. 0.97

01:46:06.000 Maybe wholesome chungus doesn't have to be a prerogative. 1.00

01:46:08.000 Maybe that can be like nice every once in a while. 1.00

01:46:10.000 No, because like you want to be able to like take your kids and just like go for a fun time.

01:46:14.000 Yeah, literally.

01:46:15.000 Now the only places you can go are actually the places that are like really expensive and like really nice.

01:46:20.000 Or like Denny's.

01:46:21.000 Well, yeah, because that's the worst part about the.

01:46:23.000 Because you go to the wholesome.

01:46:24.000 Yeah, real.

01:46:26.000 And you go to the wholesome Chungus Burger restaurant now, and then the burger names are like disgusting.

01:46:30.000 They're like, yeah, can I get the sloppy seconds burger?

01:46:33.000 And can I get the goose?

01:46:35.000 With the white goose.

01:46:36.000 Yeah, can I get the grape sandwich, please?

01:46:38.000 And you're like, what?

01:46:39.000 What kind of place is this?

01:46:40.000 Speaking of, there's a chat in here that's asking someone's visiting D.C.

01:46:45.000 Oh, yes.

01:46:46.000 Okay, we're pivoting here.

01:46:48.000 Meatloaf of Ohio.

01:46:49.000 Meatloaf of Ohio.

01:46:50.000 We can pivot back after that.

01:46:51.000 You know this person.

01:46:52.000 So, yeah, this is one of my moderators.

01:46:54.000 It's a long story.

01:46:55.000 My longtime moderators here is going to be in the area.

01:46:57.000 It's going to be in Harper's Ferry, actually.

01:46:59.000 So, you're going to try to meet up.

01:47:00.000 Finally, meet up after three years of the Discord server.

01:47:03.000 You guys, DC, what are the three must see things or to do activities?

01:47:08.000 National Archives, you have to do.

01:47:10.000 Yes.

01:47:12.000 I like to walk the monuments.

01:47:14.000 My mom and my brother just visited me, and it's like a 45 minute walk, and you can see all of the monuments, and they're beautiful.

01:47:20.000 Get some exercise.

01:47:22.000 Although the weather's going to be crappy this weekend, so maybe that's not a good idea.

01:47:24.000 Depends what day you're going to be there, I guess.

01:47:25.000 Just a rain.

01:47:26.000 Yeah.

01:47:26.000 Don't park in front of the museum.

01:47:28.000 I think you can.

01:47:30.000 My sleeper pick would be.

01:47:32.000 Would be, you got to pay.

01:47:34.000 It's not a Smithsonian museum, but if even if you're not a Christian, the museum of the Bible is pretty fascinating, mainly because I think it's the third floor.

01:47:42.000 They have all of these old, they have a massive collection, just all these different transcripts, and they have different Bible prints, which is pretty cool.

01:47:51.000 They have like a few original Gutenberg press books.

01:47:54.000 The Library of Congress has a Gutenberg as well.

01:47:56.000 Yeah, they have a Gutenberg Library of Congress.

01:47:58.000 So, um, beyond that, uh, if you like food, you should go to my personal plug is Soul Spice, it's like a Korean Chipotle.

01:48:05.000 It's really good.

01:48:07.000 And my Floyd is celiac and it's all gluten free no matter what.

01:48:10.000 Really cool. 0.99

01:48:11.000 So, yeah, Floyd is pretty, she's junky.

01:48:13.000 Yeah, I would say it's kind of obvious, but go to Arlington during changing of the guard, even if it's raining, because it's just incredible to watch that dedication with all weather.

01:48:22.000 Yeah, it does.

01:48:23.000 It kind of adds to that.

01:48:24.000 So, it's really cool to see changing of the guard, especially if it's raining.

01:48:28.000 And that's like my personal favorite.

01:48:30.000 There's some really cool things you can see JFK's grave.

01:48:32.000 There's a couple other things there.

01:48:35.000 My father in law is actually etched into a monument that's right on the drive coming up.

01:48:39.000 And it's the Seabees Monument.

01:48:41.000 If anybody knows what I'm talking about, there's a Seabees Monument.

01:48:44.000 And my father in law is actually on there.

01:48:46.000 Shout out.

01:48:47.000 Oh, man.

01:48:48.000 I'm totally going to forget the name.

01:48:49.000 But he's, yeah.

01:48:50.000 He has like a jackhammer.

01:48:51.000 And that's him.

01:48:52.000 That's my father in law.

01:48:53.000 I know.

01:48:53.000 It's really cool lore.

01:48:54.000 Yeah.

01:48:55.000 We're dropping insane lore. 1.00

01:48:55.000 Lore drop. 1.00

01:48:56.000 Dropping lore.

01:48:57.000 Oh, Mount Vernon is fun, too.

01:48:59.000 Mount Vernon is fun.

01:49:02.000 Okay, love that.

01:49:02.000 If you won.

01:49:04.000 Our side.

01:49:07.000 Oh, your side.

01:49:08.000 Okay.

01:49:08.000 Well, okay.

01:49:08.000 They had the, they had, yeah.

01:49:11.000 Okay.

01:49:11.000 I'm American.

01:49:11.000 I'm from here.

01:49:12.000 I promise.

01:49:13.000 They had like cavalry too.

01:49:15.000 They had like, they pulled out all the stops.

01:49:17.000 Apparently, these people like camp there all weekend.

01:49:20.000 It's like alt right Ren Faire.

01:49:21.000 I love it.

01:49:24.000 Cool.

01:49:24.000 Yeah.

01:49:24.000 Very cool.

01:49:25.000 They had like autistic kids like in the lineup with like a white cast of sunscreen in their colonial uniforms.

01:49:31.000 I'm like, this place is awesome. 0.62

01:49:32.000 It's boutique, unite the right.

01:49:33.000 I love those.

01:49:34.000 Yeah.

01:49:34.000 It's great.

01:49:35.000 Let's get into this question here.

01:49:36.000 Does the panel think we have or are entering a period where attending gentlemen's clubs are now a lower tier of degeneracy due to it requiring face to face interactions?

01:49:46.000 Maybe the lower tier of generations?

01:49:47.000 I don't know if it's because he's saying they're siphoning off the like just the total degenerates and the online stuff.

01:49:54.000 No, I think actually they're gonna close the shower and heading back.

01:49:56.000 Make Hooters fun.

01:49:57.000 Yeah, I think the percent of people who go now are probably worse.

01:50:02.000 Yeah.

01:50:03.000 You know, because like the act itself though is probably at least it's like you show up, you like get dressed and go somewhere.

01:50:10.000 I guess if you go unironically, then yeah.

01:50:12.000 No, see, the thing is because like now people just like see escorts, like because escorts are so much more common now because.

01:50:19.000 You have social media, which finds like their OnlyFans page, and then all these girls do escorts now.

01:50:23.000 So, like, I don't even think strip clubs are like they're door dashing their women. 0.97

01:50:27.000 Yeah, no, literally everything is just made to order.

01:50:32.000 Yeah, um, no one wants to leave the house, no one wants to go out and do things, which of course, then that so, like, I mean, it's totally pivoting from that question, but I now feel like the people out in the world are the people who truly want to be there.

01:50:44.000 Yeah, so whenever I go do something, I feel like now we're actually selecting for people who like really want to.

01:50:49.000 Especially because it costs like $40 to go outside anymore.

01:50:52.000 So you got to like, right, right. 0.93

01:50:53.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 1.00

01:50:54.000 It's so gay. 1.00

01:50:55.000 Well, maybe outside is becoming like Costco. 1.00

01:50:57.000 You have to pay to go outside.

01:50:58.000 Yeah, literally.

01:50:59.000 So it's super, if you can make it that, but then again, you can't have a two tiered thing.

01:51:03.000 Right. 0.95

01:51:03.000 Homeless people, they need to be like locked into asylums. 0.95

01:51:06.000 Yeah, real. 1.00

01:51:06.000 And so you have to pay money to go outside and then outside to be super duper nice. 1.00

01:51:10.000 Yeah, like outside premium and it's like the non homeless part.

01:51:12.000 Outside plus.

01:51:13.000 Yeah, outside plus.

01:51:14.000 Dude, I'd pay that in a heartbeat.

01:51:15.000 Dude, are you kidding me?

01:51:17.000 My name is Jed asks with the 90 day mark of the Iran operation coming after Memorial Day weekend.

01:51:24.000 Do you see an end coming soon, or do you think this runs through the summer and into the midterms?

01:51:29.000 My personal take is it'll probably end around August or September.

01:51:33.000 But look, Iran formalized their toll system.

01:51:36.000 They want to put a toll on the Strait of Hormuz and they formalized it, which indicates that, look, they're trying to accumulate as much leverage as possible going into the current negotiations taking place.

01:51:46.000 And on top of that, I think the miscalculation from the Trump administration was that Iran is not like any other country necessarily. 0.98

01:51:54.000 Actually, the most ardent Zionists were correct. 0.90

01:51:56.000 They are theocratic ideologues. 0.95

01:51:59.000 And the problem is when you kill their leadership, they'll just replace them with people that literally believe the same thing. 0.59

01:52:04.000 So, victory for Iran is just survival. 0.84

01:52:08.000 They saw what happened to Gaddafi.

01:52:09.000 They saw how successful Kim Jong un was at repelling any sort of meddling in their affairs.

01:52:15.000 So, they understand that a nuclear weapon is what they need for deterrence.

01:52:18.000 So, there's no brinksmanship that can occur here.

01:52:21.000 It's not going to get solved at the negotiating table, in my opinion.

01:52:24.000 So, I think the United States will probably crank the heat up.

01:52:26.000 You're reporting on politics.

01:52:26.000 I don't know.

01:52:27.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that it would be smart to get something, you know, resolve it in some capacity before the midterms.

01:52:36.000 I also think it would have been smart to wait after the midterms.

01:52:38.000 If they were going to do anything at all, I think it probably would have been better to wait to make gas prices like $6 a gallon until after the round of elections in November.

01:52:49.000 From what I understand, the argument behind the scenes was that, well, the time is now.

01:52:55.000 By the time the midterms pass, they're going to have too many defensive capabilities and we won't be as effective.

01:53:02.000 I'm obviously not super pervious to whether or not that's accurate, but I think that they will.

01:53:07.000 Wrap it up in some way, you know, kind of mop it up as best as they can.

01:53:12.000 The question, I guess, is whether or not Americans will still be feeling the pain afterwards.

01:53:16.000 I think probably.

01:53:18.000 And I think that will still reflect poorly on Republicans.

01:53:21.000 The gas prices have to come down.

01:53:23.000 Gas prices, the food prices.

01:53:26.000 Yeah, it's just not a good look.

01:53:27.000 I'm sorry.

01:53:28.000 Am I covering my food in crazy sauce or something?

01:53:30.000 This is the new forever war.

01:53:32.000 It's a new forever war.

01:53:33.000 That's the fear.

01:53:34.000 No, no.

01:53:34.000 I think that's the reality.

01:53:36.000 That's the reality.

01:53:37.000 How is it not?

01:53:38.000 Best case scenario, he stops and we're a little bit worse off than we already are. 0.98

01:53:41.000 And he can't stop because this is, you know, it's propagated by Israel. 0.86

01:53:46.000 Israel is demanding this. 0.55

01:53:48.000 He has to ramp it up, and you can't ramp up in a war with Iran. 0.62

01:53:50.000 This is a losing proposition. 0.78

01:53:52.000 It's going to go on forever. 1.00

01:53:53.000 We definitely haven't patched things up with the Iranians after this. 1.00

01:53:56.000 It's not going to happen, maybe in our lifetime. 1.00

01:53:59.000 Well, that's the problem. 1.00

01:54:00.000 That's why I said, I mean, it's like, look, the victory condition for Iran is just survival. 0.91

01:54:04.000 So to your point, I mean, look, there's two ways this goes either Trump strikes a deal that he can take home and say, well, we, you know, finished off their nuclear capabilities this time. 0.56

01:54:15.000 Or to your point, you're the finish of off. 0.53

01:54:17.000 Well, in a country as large as Iran, as complex as Iran, that's a three, four, potentially decade long process, depending on how entrenched they are.

01:54:26.000 I'm sorry, this isn't going to get solved at the negotiating table.

01:54:28.000 The Trump administration is going to just have to take their wounds here and survive.

01:54:33.000 The thing, though, is that the Americans have a lot of capacity for this kind of stuff.

01:54:37.000 That if the Trump administration does, again, just kind of accept that it's a stalemate, we might be worse off.

01:54:42.000 I think we would be worse off leaving this war at the moment.

01:54:46.000 The American people have very short memories.

01:54:48.000 If you rack up a few domestic wins, you go and set the tone in Cuba, people, this will still be a blot on his record. 0.98

01:54:54.000 There's no doubt about that.

01:54:55.000 You know, in conversations in 10, 20 years, people will probably bring up, well, the Iran thing is like, yeah, I know. 0.93

01:55:00.000 But I think that, again, if you just say, look, it is what it is, let's take the L here, it's fine versus, to your point, that's the only way I see this playing out. 0.95

01:55:09.000 Again, if we stay in and we try to finish them off, that's going to take a lot longer than you think. 0.73

01:55:12.000 We already killed all their leadership. 0.96

01:55:14.000 And they're still going. 0.98

01:55:15.000 Yeah. 0.56

01:55:15.000 And they have tons of munitions left over. 0.56

01:55:17.000 The Chinese said, Yeah, we'll stop supporting him.

01:55:19.000 Nothing, there's no mechanism to actually force the Chinese.

01:55:22.000 And Russia. 0.81

01:55:23.000 But also, like Iran, I mean, they killed, like, what, however many thousands, tens of thousands of their civilians leading up.

01:55:30.000 40,000 is what I've heard a lot, like leading before the conflict.

01:55:35.000 And so, like, the president threatening to take out their civilian infrastructure and kill more of their civilians, I'm not totally convinced that that is like something that they're super worried about.

01:55:44.000 I'm like, they actually would like totally do it themselves.

01:55:47.000 Like, they weren't happy to kill one of people themselves. 0.67

01:55:50.000 Like, I don't think that's going to actually like damage or set Iran back in the way that like Americans think because, you know, we look at the 13 servicemen that died so far.

01:56:00.000 In this conflict.

01:56:01.000 And that's like a heavy hit for us.

01:56:03.000 Yeah.

01:56:04.000 Well, I mean, to your point, you know, not to like, I know everyone's like, oh, everything gets tied back to World War II, but this is appropriate in this situation. 0.77

01:56:10.000 Is that what we did in Germany, in Dresden, is we bombed the German people because we were under the impression that they would blame this on their government and say, just get us out of this, like sign whatever deals necessary. 0.77

01:56:20.000 Let's get out of this.

01:56:21.000 It had the opposite effect.

01:56:23.000 Is they rallied, even though the German government was quite unpopular, specifically in Dresden, once we bombed them, they rallied around.

01:56:30.000 Flag, and I think the exact same thing would happen in Iran again if we ratchet up the pressure and sort of targeting civilian infrastructure.

01:56:35.000 I don't think the civilians say this is the Ayatollah's fault, yeah.

01:56:38.000 They would say, Wow, we need to rally around the flag here.

01:56:40.000 We may not like the Ayatollah, but these guys are coming in and bombing us, especially since we hit them first. 0.85

01:56:44.000 Isn't that kind of like what Trump was saying, was like, Hey, the people of Iran, like now's your chance. 0.93

01:56:49.000 Like, we kind of set the stage for you, and like, if they didn't take it, then you know, like the only way you get regime change is if you fully change everything, and like you're saying, that's going to take forever.

01:57:00.000 If it even happens.

01:57:01.000 So, why not even?

01:57:02.000 So, you either need the people to revolt, you need some, you know, I've always said that, you know, regardless of our involvement, the only way that happens is if the people of Iran who could pose some sort of like counter something work directly with Israel and get like a bunch, because, you know, Mossad already has tons of people in Iran's thing, right?

01:57:23.000 Like, there was one whole department of Iran, like the IRGC, that was like trying to snuff out who was Mossad, and everyone in there was actually Mossad.

01:57:33.000 So it's like, unless you find some way to get the people in with, you know, with working in tandem with Israel locally, it's just nothing's going to happen. 0.82

01:57:43.000 Well, and this is why there's. 0.65

01:57:44.000 You can't invade Iran.

01:57:45.000 You can't invade Iran. 1.00

01:57:45.000 No, it's true. 1.00

01:57:46.000 For people to revolt, they have a martyr to rally around now, thanks to us.

01:57:49.000 But also, anything that's never happened.

01:57:51.000 But, you know, at the same time, he's hated by a very large percentage of the population.

01:57:54.000 I don't know about that.

01:57:55.000 I dispute that completely.

01:57:56.000 But even if that was the case, I mean, this was the problem to your point.

01:57:58.000 I mean, there was a reporting, I think it was in the Washington Post earlier this week, that was the plan when we went in, we thought, if we can create a power vacuum, we're watching on TV all of these protests.

01:58:07.000 They'll just step up and change the regime and we won't have to be too involved.

01:58:10.000 Wow.

01:58:11.000 That then has to be a little bit more powerful. 0.99

01:58:14.000 They were like leaking off to the New York Post or whoever it was that, like, oh, the Ayatollah's gay. 0.93

01:58:21.000 And it was like, this is totally going to work. 0.67

01:58:23.000 And, like, yeah, it is a funny rumor to start about someone.

01:58:26.000 But, like, if anything, they're probably going to be, I assume, that they're going to be more emboldened.

01:58:32.000 Of course.

01:58:32.000 Yeah.

01:58:33.000 Well, you know, this would be the last one, maybe, is an interesting proposal on how we could mop this up from G.

01:58:33.000 Yeah.

01:58:40.000 And the Discord here says, Should we make it rain bacon grease through cloud seeding in Iran?

01:58:44.000 I already know.

01:58:45.000 It would technically be chemical warfare. 0.68

01:58:46.000 I believe that would be chemical warfare, but that's a compelling proposal. 0.70

01:58:50.000 I mean, it's certainly better than looking at 10 years of occupation.

01:58:53.000 Interesting, I know who typed that without even knowing.

01:58:53.000 Or more.

01:58:55.000 You were like, If we put bacon grease, I was like, Ah.

01:58:57.000 Yeah, if we put bacon grease.

01:58:58.000 I know exactly who they've actually attached a photo of what this could look like in French.

01:58:58.000 I was like, Ah.

01:59:01.000 Oh, I see it now.

01:59:02.000 Is it AI?

01:59:03.000 It's AI, but let's hope so.

01:59:05.000 Yeah.

01:59:06.000 I will say, as someone who did spend time as a butcher, that pork fat is.

01:59:11.000 Pretty hard to deal with, and you're just not going to go well.

01:59:13.000 Yeah, and cloud seating with it on the huddle would work.

01:59:15.000 You're a butcher.

01:59:16.000 I respect that.

01:59:17.000 Okay.

01:59:18.000 I respect that all the time.

01:59:19.000 This one's really easy.

01:59:20.000 It's a yes or no question.

01:59:21.000 It's a yes or no question.

01:59:24.000 Yeah.

01:59:25.000 It's around the table, yay or nay, on an infantry invasion of Cuba.

01:59:29.000 Infantry, nay.

01:59:32.000 It's pretty easy.

01:59:33.000 Unanimous nay.

01:59:33.000 We don't need to do that.

01:59:34.000 We need like 30 guys.

01:59:35.000 I was going to say that was going to be quick. 1.00

01:59:36.000 We'll just get Camaro, a few white monsters. 1.00

01:59:38.000 We should be fine. 1.00

01:59:39.000 With that, we got to wind this show down, folks.

01:59:42.000 Thank you very much for watching this Friday installment.

01:59:45.000 It was loose.

01:59:46.000 We had a great time.

01:59:46.000 It was fun.

01:59:47.000 So I appreciate all of our guests and panelists for joining us today.

01:59:50.000 With that, Josh, where can people find you?

01:59:52.000 At Josh Rayner Gold on all the socials.

01:59:55.000 Thanks for coming out, dude.

01:59:55.000 Yeah.

01:59:56.000 It was awesome.

01:59:57.000 Rebecca.

01:59:57.000 This has been fun.

01:59:58.000 You can read my byline on the Daily Caller or you can follow me on X at Rebecca Zelko, spelled R E B E K A Z E L J K O. Awesome.

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02:00:07.000 Thank you for having me.

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02:00:26.000 And I messed up the order on the outro.

02:00:27.000 So your name, Chris's name popped up under yours.

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02:00:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:47.000 Totally my fault.

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