Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - HANTAVIRUS PANDEMIC PANIC, Human To Human Spread Feared | Timcast IRL

00:02:43.000 Just in time for a midterm election.

00:02:46.000 It is Hantavirus pandemic panic.

00:02:49.000 That's right.

00:02:50.000 Everyone online is freaking out about the Hantavirus.

00:02:52.000 A new reported case in Switzerland.

00:02:55.000 What's going on?

00:02:56.000 In fact, a Twitter account tweeted in 2022.

00:03:00.000 In 2023, the coronavirus pandemic would end.

00:03:03.000 And in 2026, the Hantavirus.

00:03:05.000 I'm just going to tell you right off the bat I think the real story here is that there is no big story.

00:03:11.000 The news outlets are all fairly desperate for something to cover.

00:03:15.000 And I'm going to tell you exactly what's going on right off the bat without bearing the lead, but we'll talk about it.

00:03:19.000 I mean, it is interesting.

00:03:20.000 This weird Twitter post is interesting.

00:03:22.000 I think all of the editors in chiefs of these companies are sitting around, like, drooling, going, Is there anything to talk about?

00:03:30.000 And then one editor goes, I don't even talk about the Hantavirus thing on the cruise.

00:03:34.000 And I was like, Okay, let's just write up what they got.

00:03:36.000 Because honestly, when you look at the numbers year over year, this is not spectacular at all.

00:03:41.000 And now you've got posts from, like, was it Sarah Palin saying, Do not comply.

00:03:46.000 And I'm sitting here being like, Guys, Okay, no, I get that.

00:03:50.000 But if we really did get widespread Hantavirus pandemic, it's a 40% mortality.

00:03:57.000 I don't think compliance becomes part of the equation when half of the people are dead.

00:04:02.000 And I'm not trying to be cute, but we'll talk about it.

00:04:05.000 It's interesting nonetheless.

00:04:06.000 To back up my claim that it's a slow news day, and that's why this story is going massively viral, there's nothing else, is also a story from YouGov where they did a poll asking if an eight year old could beat up Donald Trump winning a fist fight.

00:04:19.000 I'm not kidding.

00:04:20.000 YouGov polled people asking if they thought Trump would win a fist fight with an eight year old.

00:04:26.000 I have to imagine, like, after the Hantavirus stuff, the guys at YouGov are just sitting there like, I really just have nothing.

00:04:32.000 And they're like, You think Trump could beat up a little kid?

00:04:36.000 Let's ask people.

00:04:37.000 That's how desperate they are for news right now.

00:04:39.000 I'm not even joking.

00:04:41.000 So, of course, there is still a bit we can talk about.

00:04:43.000 Mark Hamill deleted a tweet where he called for the death of Trump.

00:04:43.000 We'll get into that.

00:04:48.000 He really did.

00:04:49.000 And he tried wording it in a Weasley way, but he did.

00:04:52.000 And people were calling for boycotts.

00:04:54.000 And so he took the post down.

00:04:56.000 We'll talk about that.

00:04:58.000 It's getting crazy out there.

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00:06:17.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Aaron McIntyre.

00:06:21.000 Thanks for having me, Tim.

00:06:22.000 I'm Aaron McIntyre.

00:06:23.000 I host the Aaron McIntyre show on Blaze TV, Rumble, YouTube, and I've got my book out, The Total State.

00:06:30.000 Well, right on.

00:06:31.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:06:31.000 Libby is here.

00:06:32.000 Yes, I am here.

00:06:33.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:06:34.000 Glad to be here with you guys.

00:06:36.000 I'm one of those editors you were talking about who was scrambling for news.

00:06:39.000 And you can also check out my podcast, The Pod Millennial.

00:06:43.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:06:44.000 Hello.

00:06:45.000 If you don't know me yet, what's wrong with you?

00:06:45.000 Hello, everyone.

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00:06:48.000 Carter Banks.

00:06:49.000 I'm Carter Banks.

00:06:51.000 Same as what Ian said.

00:06:52.000 Tim, let's get in.

00:06:53.000 Let's go.

00:06:53.000 Here's a story from the Washington Post Authorities scramble to limit Hanta virus outbreak, trace contacts around the globe.

00:07:01.000 U.S. officials in at least five states Arizona, California, Georgia, Texas, Virginia are monitoring systems of seven returning passengers.

00:07:09.000 And so when I saw this story, And you've got these reports.

00:07:12.000 They're saying now that there's a reported case in Switzerland.

00:07:16.000 Let me break it down for you.

00:07:17.000 The only thing that's somewhat alarming is this story from Dutch news.

00:07:21.000 A KLM flood attendant has been hospitalized with suspected Honta virus.

00:07:25.000 And the reason why this one matters this person was not on the boat.

00:07:28.000 She just came into contact with someone who did go on the boat and then died.

00:07:33.000 So there is concern that this may be spreading human to human.

00:07:38.000 I just want to stress this, though.

00:07:40.000 The person in Switzerland was apparently on the boat.

00:07:42.000 And when they got off the boat and heard about it, they went to the hospital and they're like, you might actually have this too.

00:07:47.000 So far, I think now we have three confirmed deaths, potentially eight cases that are not confirmed, not lab tested, we don't know.

00:07:55.000 But I can say, I can confirm, desperate newsrooms around the globe are running this story and screeching like banshees because there was just nothing else to really talk about.

00:08:06.000 And I'm going to tell you this because Libby's here to attest to this fact.

00:08:10.000 But even here, I actually just didn't, I only did a short version of my morning show.

00:08:14.000 I only did about 45 minutes. 0.60

00:08:17.000 Because going through all the news, I was like, look, Mark Hamill called for the president to be killed or to die or whatever. 0.92

00:08:23.000 That's news.

00:08:24.000 Then I was just like, people are talking about Hantavirus.

00:08:27.000 I did my research and I found that this Hantavirus outbreak, they're calling it, is unremarkable.

00:08:34.000 And actually, the past several years have been substantially worse than whatever this is.

00:08:39.000 And I was like, is that what it is?

00:08:41.000 Because we're sitting here and I'm going, like, I'm in the slack, like, guys, is this big news?

00:08:45.000 And people are like shrugging.

00:08:46.000 And I'm sure that's what's happening with Libby, right?

00:08:49.000 Yeah, but I will say that I dug deep and found more and better news.

00:08:52.000 Like there was an A-roll debate in LA last night.

00:08:56.000 That was pretty good.

00:08:57.000 Spencer Pratt really did a great job against Karen Bass and Nitya Rahman.

00:09:01.000 So we'll see.

00:09:03.000 Apparently, one of the big stories is that Karen Bass admitted the reservoir was supposed to be used for fire.

00:09:09.000 Yes, she did.

00:09:10.000 She said a million years ago it was used for fires, but recently we've been using it for drinking water.

00:09:15.000 And when Spencer Pratt was like, these are for fires, why were they drained?

00:09:19.000 So that was, I thought she apparently admitted it.

00:09:21.000 Yeah.

00:09:21.000 She said, well, they are for fires.

00:09:23.000 And that opens them up to civil liability, which is great.

00:09:25.000 Yeah, which is good.

00:09:27.000 Spencer Pratt said on the debate stage, you know, I blame you for burning down my house and my parents' house and all of my neighbors' homes, my kids' school and everything else.

00:09:36.000 Well, but let's.

00:09:37.000 I thought that was good.

00:09:38.000 But let's bring it back to the Hansa for a second.

00:09:41.000 Conspiracy theory.

00:09:41.000 Yeah.

00:09:42.000 Do you think that sponsored by Pfizer?

00:09:46.000 I'm just calling out, like, remember the news where it was like, sponsored by Pfizer?

00:09:49.000 June 11th, 2022, Soothsayer.

00:09:49.000 What's this?

00:09:52.000 This is an account that I guess says reads the future.

00:09:56.000 And, you know, Star of Venus, Eye of Horse.

00:09:59.000 They said 2023, Corona ended.

00:10:01.000 2026, Hanta virus.

00:10:03.000 Hanta.

00:10:04.000 Hanta.

00:10:04.000 I was looking into their followers.

00:10:05.000 The people they were following, and one of them was Bill Gates.

00:10:08.000 Wait, what?

00:10:08.000 Yeah.

00:10:09.000 They're following like 18 people, and one of them is Bill Gates.

00:10:14.000 Finger on the pulse.

00:10:16.000 Following black hole. 0.60

00:10:17.000 Didn't Gene Hackman's wife die of Hanta virus?

00:10:20.000 Yes.

00:10:21.000 Recently.

00:10:22.000 So, indeed.

00:10:22.000 And Hanta virus, that's the thing where you like, we were talking about this in the chat today, because as you said, there wasn't that much to talk about.

00:10:29.000 It's the thing where it's, Like rat poop, basically.

00:10:31.000 That's how, yeah, that's how it gets translated.

00:10:32.000 That's how you get it.

00:10:33.000 You just breathe in the rat poop.

00:10:35.000 Is that what it is?

00:10:36.000 You breathe it in?

00:10:37.000 I think you breathe it in.

00:10:38.000 I can't imagine that you can go on one of these ships.

00:10:41.000 It just seems like a plague ship to me.

00:10:43.000 Yeah, the sanitation is coming.

00:10:44.000 So take a look.

00:10:45.000 Someone actually made a website.

00:10:46.000 You want to know what's really crazy about this?

00:10:49.000 You see this website, you're like, wow, Hanta Tracker.

00:10:52.000 You can go on Claude and literally just type in, make a website that shows the globe and tracks Hanta virus by country, and it'll do it in 20 seconds.

00:10:59.000 And then you can just upload it and run it.

00:11:01.000 Yes.

00:11:02.000 Which I would not be surprised if it's what they did.

00:11:04.000 This is what?

00:11:05.000 This is the intensity of outbreak per nation.

00:11:08.000 No, this is the amount of news articles, I guess.

00:11:10.000 Is that what it is?

00:11:11.000 The reason I brought it up.

00:11:12.000 Yeah, look at this.

00:11:12.000 There's nine cases and three deaths, and someone made a global Honda trigger.

00:11:16.000 Guys, listen, I understand.

00:11:18.000 Like, this.

00:11:20.000 I love this story with Soothsayer because the conspiracy stuff is much more fun.

00:11:24.000 There's like four tweets, and one of them is Hantavirus.

00:11:29.000 And I'm just imagining, like, Bill Gates has an intern, some 24 year old chick, and she's like doing selfies, and she's like, I can see the future with astrology.

00:11:37.000 And then Bill Gates walks in and goes, I think after coronavirus is over in 23, we should launch the Honda virus.

00:11:42.000 And then she's just texting.

00:11:43.000 She's like, Yeah.

00:11:45.000 This thing.

00:11:46.000 What I wonder is, is the news slow today because the people that are trying to produce a global pandemic wanted to shut down all the other news so everyone could focus on Hantavirus?

00:11:55.000 They could cause panic.

00:11:56.000 And then they could start building vaccines for it.

00:11:58.000 Like, that's my crazy thing.

00:11:59.000 I think it's just been slow all week, I think.

00:12:01.000 I think it's been, it's like wavy.

00:12:04.000 You know, we've had like big, big story and then like, eh, kind of nothing.

00:12:07.000 Also, part of it is that no one wants to talk about the war.

00:12:09.000 Yeah, I was going to say that.

00:12:10.000 There's nothing to talk about.

00:12:11.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:12:12.000 Listen, my conspiracy theory is that.

00:12:16.000 Well, it's not my.

00:12:18.000 I'm going to say a conspiracy theory that I think is fun is Donald Trump was like, we nuked USAID.

00:12:24.000 We've stripped the liberal economic order of their cycle of money.

00:12:30.000 Now we need to build up our own.

00:12:33.000 So what he does is he's like, okay, every other week I'm going to announce the war is over so that prices drop.

00:12:39.000 As soon as I fire another missile, short them again.

00:12:44.000 You know, buy in, it goes to the top, sell, short, then I'll announce the war is over, it'll go down.

00:12:49.000 And they're just.

00:12:50.000 They're just funneling money to them like a vacuum cleaner.

00:12:53.000 This is a really fascinating aspect of one of your opponents' real weapons being your own nation's economy. 0.79

00:12:59.000 Like Iran knows it could never actually militarily destroy the United States, but it does know that it's basically sitting on this massive resource and ultimately it can control the flow of economic output. 0.64

00:13:10.000 And so, you know, you have this phenomenon where Trump is literally fighting the wars over the weekend so they don't impact the markets and then declaring them over during the week and then going back.

00:13:21.000 And he's just cycling over and over again.

00:13:22.000 So it creates this really.

00:13:24.000 Strange dynamic where, like, there are these little bursts of conflict whenever they won't wreck the market and then they pull it back in just in time to set everything back on course. 0.95

00:13:33.000 And that's to remove Iran's ability to ultimately tank the markets and create economic pain on the United States, which is their greatest weapon. 0.97

00:13:40.000 They're never going to win with missiles, they're going to win by harming the stock market. 0.96

00:13:44.000 And Donald Trump knows that.

00:13:45.000 That's why they're fighting the war the way they are.

00:13:47.000 Do you think that the markets should be seven days a week, 24 hours, seven days a week?

00:13:52.000 Because that's how the crypto markets are.

00:13:53.000 Yeah, no, I don't think it should be at all.

00:13:54.000 I think.

00:13:55.000 I think we should go back to like when stores were all closed on Sunday and there was just a day when nobody could get anything done.

00:14:02.000 I'm a massive supporter of that.

00:14:03.000 I'm going to go ahead and just say that this, the flow of this conversation leaves me vindicated that not even any of you care about Honda virus.

00:14:10.000 No, it's just another story.

00:14:12.000 The thing about COVID, this is what I remember the day it happened.

00:14:15.000 Because I'm being a manifestation of the future.

00:14:15.000 I was like, wow.

00:14:18.000 I'm like, if we pretend like this is going to be a big deal, is it going to become a global pandemic?

00:14:22.000 And I'm like, wow, what if it did?

00:14:23.000 Hyperstition.

00:14:24.000 And then it did.

00:14:24.000 Yeah.

00:14:25.000 And I was like, wow, what if we just dismissed it?

00:14:27.000 Would it have just gone away?

00:14:28.000 Would that have been like another flu?

00:14:30.000 Were you in Jersey with us when it started?

00:14:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:14:32.000 Because I remember we were in the basement and I remember when Trump made the announcement in March, like we're shutting the country down, and we were like, fuck. 0.99

00:14:38.000 We were talking to you about it. 0.99

00:14:39.000 Like it was in March, February, March, March.

00:14:41.000 Yeah, it was super early.

00:14:42.000 We were like, and that's when we put all the gold bars in the wall to hide it.

00:14:45.000 Oh, I should have said it.

00:14:47.000 I mean, it sounds like my dream.

00:14:48.000 Wait, did we get those?

00:14:49.000 Yeah, they're here.

00:14:49.000 I don't even know what you're talking about.

00:14:51.000 Again, it is an interesting dynamic that like Trump's relatively successful first term was completely train wrecked because of the pandemic and everything that came after it, all the madness.

00:15:01.000 And then basically halfway through a presidency, you're also seeing another story about pandemics.

00:15:06.000 This one seems less likely to take over, but.

00:15:09.000 This isn't the first time, wasn't there?

00:15:10.000 Wasn't there another story in 2024 or something where people were like, oh man. 1.00

00:15:15.000 Oh, there was a gay sex bug. 1.00

00:15:16.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:15:17.000 Oh, yeah, there was a gay sex bug. 1.00

00:15:18.000 It was a gay sex bug. 1.00

00:15:18.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:15:19.000 Oh, the monkey bug.

00:15:20.000 Oh, yeah, monkey bug.

00:15:21.000 Yeah, but that was during Biden.

00:15:22.000 Small children and dogs kept coming down with it.

00:15:24.000 Right, that was so bad.

00:15:25.000 We needed to make that.

00:15:27.000 Well, because as everybody knows, kids and dogs like being friends with monkeys.

00:15:30.000 They won't touch poop.

00:15:32.000 I think that's why.

00:15:33.000 But it was like, watch.

00:15:34.000 Hold on.

00:15:35.000 What if this is Donald Trump being like, we're going to do our own pandemic?

00:15:39.000 We're going to take their idea.

00:15:40.000 Use it against him, but this time he used an actually deadly one.

00:15:44.000 Just to put people at ease, I'm not a doctor, but I have played Plague Inc., and I know that if you want to spread a global virus and you want to spread globally and infect everyone, you don't want to be super deadly.

00:15:54.000 You want to be very infective, but not deadly, so that everyone gets it without knowing they have it, and then you mutate and become deadly.

00:16:02.000 And then everyone's like, ah, I'm stuck.

00:16:03.000 But this thing's already too deadly to start.

00:16:05.000 This one already starts as deadly.

00:16:06.000 That's why you hid gold bars in the walls.

00:16:10.000 My graveyard.

00:16:10.000 Oh, we actually did not.

00:16:11.000 Oh, you didn't? 0.60

00:16:12.000 My great aunt was married to a mafia doctor and they lived in Vegas and they literally stacked bills in the walls.

00:16:19.000 Oh, it's a terrible idea.

00:16:19.000 Yeah.

00:16:20.000 Bills are worthless.

00:16:21.000 Here's the thing.

00:16:21.000 That's what they have.

00:16:22.000 Honta virus is not transmissible during incubation.

00:16:25.000 So it's a one to eight week incubation.

00:16:27.000 And if you did somehow get it, it's not contagious until you're symptomatic.

00:16:31.000 And by then, you are seriously ill.

00:16:35.000 Like pneumonia style liquid.

00:16:36.000 Yeah.

00:16:37.000 Like anybody who's played Plague Inc., like Ian mentioned, in order to infect the whole world, it has to be a somewhat negligible, high transmissible virus.

00:16:46.000 If a virus is too deadly, then whether people want to spread it or not, they die and then it stops spreading.

00:16:52.000 Unless the dead bodies can spread it, which is another type of mutation, but it's not real common.

00:16:56.000 What's really funny about Ebola do you know about what happens in Africa with Ebola?

00:17:02.000 I do not.

00:17:04.000 The locals, the indigenous in these countries, believe that the white man is experimenting on them and trying to kill them.

00:17:12.000 So they intentionally break quarantine and bring their sick or break into and grab the sick people and run away.

00:17:19.000 And that's why it's really hard to contain Ebola.

00:17:21.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:17:22.000 Yeah.

00:17:24.000 You know, then you also have, like, with South Africa, they think AIDS is magic.

00:17:27.000 They think it's a magical spell that you have to transfer to someone else to curse them.

00:17:32.000 So they'll stick a needle in their arm and then stick a random person in, like, a tourist with it. 0.97

00:17:38.000 They also think that it can be cured by having sex with infants or something. 0.99

00:17:41.000 They do. 0.99

00:17:42.000 That's why South Africa has the highest instance of.

00:17:44.000 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

00:17:45.000 There's also the dry sex, which is what often makes it very prevalent in Africa. 1.00

00:17:50.000 So. 1.00

00:17:50.000 That dry sex, you don't want to know. 1.00

00:17:52.000 Oh, my mind's racing. 1.00

00:17:53.000 It involves sand.

00:17:55.000 Oh, okay.

00:17:56.000 Let's just so anyway, the Hanta virus killing people.

00:17:58.000 Oh, that's too bad.

00:18:00.000 I feel these people.

00:18:01.000 Yeah, legit.

00:18:02.000 Like this morning, I saw Mark Hamill was like calling for Trump to die, and I was like, wow, that's crazy.

00:18:07.000 But I don't know how much I care because it's like the 18th celebrity to do it in the past couple of weeks.

00:18:11.000 So, well, you know, I think one thing that happened with that is that we all got kind of immune to celebrities calling for the assassination of the president.

00:18:20.000 And so we stopped really talking about it that much.

00:18:22.000 And I think it's time to start talking about it again.

00:18:24.000 Mark Hamill was calling for the assassination of Donald Trump.

00:18:27.000 You had Justin Pearson in the Tennessee legislature, who's very outspoken, blah, blah, blah. 0.97

00:18:33.000 He was calling, he was saying Trump is a domestic terrorist.

00:18:36.000 You have people like that. 0.96

00:18:37.000 Let's float up.

00:18:38.000 Let's grab this.

00:18:39.000 So we got this from the Post, a millennial.

00:18:41.000 Mark Hamill deleted his Trump death post and apologized if people found it inappropriate.

00:18:48.000 He posted this picture of Trump, who apparently died two years ago, and it said, if only.

00:18:54.000 It said, if only on it.

00:18:56.000 And then afterwards, he said, he could.

00:18:58.000 What did it say?

00:18:59.000 Like, he would live to be held accountable or something?

00:19:01.000 So the implication was either he is going to die or if only he would die.

00:19:05.000 Right.

00:19:06.000 And that's Mark Hampton.

00:19:07.000 And then I guess what people were calling for a boycott or something.

00:19:10.000 Yeah.

00:19:10.000 We have this story as well.

00:19:11.000 And some other people were calling to boycott the upcoming, what is it, Mandalorian and Grogu?

00:19:16.000 He's in it?

00:19:17.000 I don't know.

00:19:18.000 But I mean, I forgot that movie.

00:19:20.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:19:20.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:19:21.000 People actually watch that stuff?

00:19:23.000 I don't know.

00:19:23.000 Now, I watched Daredevil season finale and it was fantastic.

00:19:28.000 Okay.

00:19:29.000 And then I watched The Boys.

00:19:31.000 And I got to be honest.

00:19:32.000 You know what?

00:19:33.000 The Boys does really well.

00:19:34.000 If they, here's what I think happens. 1.00

00:19:37.000 Last season on The Boys, Frenchie just became gay for some reason. 1.00

00:19:40.000 Do you guys watch this? 1.00

00:19:42.000 I watch it. 1.00

00:19:43.000 The whole show, Frenchie's like trying to mack this Asian chick. 0.98

00:19:47.000 And then all of a sudden he's like, oh, so I am gay for some reason, just for like two episodes. 0.92

00:19:51.000 And you know what I think it is?

00:19:53.000 The last episode had nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with Trump or Antifa or anything.

00:19:58.000 I think there's a handful of writers that are just like gooning to being like, yeah, Trump is bad.

00:20:04.000 And so the episodes are. 0.99

00:20:06.000 Schizophrenic.

00:20:07.000 So, like yesterday's episode had nothing to do with politics and it was really good.

00:20:10.000 It depends on who's the lead chair.

00:20:13.000 So, anyway, Matt Kripke is a pretty horrific individual.

00:20:13.000 Yeah.

00:20:16.000 But who?

00:20:17.000 Kripke, the guy who runs the show.

00:20:19.000 I mean, I stopped watching it in season one. 0.99

00:20:21.000 Halfway through, they had to make some incredibly lazy storyline about how the Christian conservatives were the real evil people and they are all secretly gay child molesters. 0.99

00:20:30.000 And it's like, oh, so this again, it's all anti Christian. 0.99

00:20:34.000 Big surprise. 0.68

00:20:34.000 When the episodes don't contain that, it's a really great show. 0.68

00:20:37.000 And then when it does, you're like, here we go again.

00:20:40.000 But anyway, my point is Star Wars is trash anyway, and I don't know why anybody would want to watch it at this point.

00:20:46.000 And it's like, it was funny when they came out with the sequels, and Mark Hamill was actually protesting. 0.70

00:20:46.000 No, me neither. 0.70

00:20:52.000 He was complaining the whole time about how bad they were.

00:20:55.000 And then eventually just goes, yeah, okay, I guess they're good. 1.00

00:20:57.000 And it's like, you're a coward. 0.87

00:21:00.000 He is, and he hasn't had a decent part other than Skywalker. 0.99

00:21:03.000 Oh, he's Joker.

00:21:04.000 Yeah.

00:21:04.000 And he's a memorable Joker.

00:21:07.000 He's the best Joker there ever has been.

00:21:09.000 All that kind of thing.

00:21:10.000 In, in, in, like, All the video games and animated films, animated series for 30 years.

00:21:15.000 He is the best Joker.

00:21:16.000 And it's fascinating, people don't know this.

00:21:18.000 He was a relatively young man when he started voicing the Joker.

00:21:21.000 Hey, you know, full disclosure, I love his acting.

00:21:24.000 I thought he was a little campy.

00:21:25.000 I mean, Mark, you probably think you were campy in Star Wars in the first one because everybody was campy in it.

00:21:29.000 That's how George Wan.

00:21:30.000 In the 70s, that's how it goes.

00:21:31.000 But spectacular actor.

00:21:33.000 Doesn't mean I agree with all your political opinions, brother, but.

00:21:35.000 We all like Heath Ledger's Joker, but that's like a unique thing.

00:21:38.000 In terms of there's a couple, uh, uh, There's really just one Batman and there's really just one joke.

00:21:46.000 Michael Keaton.

00:21:47.000 No.

00:21:48.000 That's why I was raised on that.

00:21:48.000 That was my.

00:21:49.000 Jack Nicholson.

00:21:50.000 Michael Keaton.

00:21:51.000 Kevin Conroy.

00:21:51.000 Incorrect.

00:21:53.000 And Mark Hamill.

00:21:55.000 Who's Kevin?

00:21:56.000 He's also the cartoon Batman.

00:21:57.000 He died.

00:21:58.000 Rest in peace.

00:21:59.000 But for what, 30 years, he was Batman in everything and he had the perfect voice for Batman.

00:22:04.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:05.000 And Mark Hamill really has the best voice for Batman.

00:22:07.000 He was in Batman Beyond.

00:22:08.000 He was in all the video games.

00:22:09.000 He was in the original cartoon.

00:22:10.000 Dude, it's unquestionably the best voice for Batman.

00:22:14.000 No doubt.

00:22:15.000 But what do you think?

00:22:16.000 The best actor was ever.

00:22:18.000 Most people say it's Christian Bale, I think.

00:22:19.000 Incorrect.

00:22:19.000 Maybe that's because they have only seen Christian Bale and Michael Bale.

00:22:22.000 All of the movie Batmans are just interesting one offs.

00:22:25.000 You know, Kevin Conroy is iconic Batman acting, he nailed it.

00:22:30.000 I believe it.

00:22:30.000 I mean, you're the and again, again, shout out to Mark Hamill that his Joker is the best Joker, it's absolutely incredible.

00:22:36.000 Uh, that being said, he's insane.

00:22:40.000 Well, remember that Disney fired Gina Carano for her comments, right?

00:22:44.000 So, Mark Hamill is not gonna get fired over this obviously because he's like core to the franchise and because Disney obviously agrees with this.

00:22:50.000 So, they absolutely, you know, should lose everything on this.

00:22:54.000 It would be great.

00:22:54.000 That movie was already, as I understand.

00:22:57.000 Considered to be like downscaled when it came to audience size.

00:23:00.000 Like they had already well overspent and were trying to turn down expectations because they knew it wasn't going to do that well. 0.96

00:23:05.000 But let's hope this absolutely tanks it because these people are insane. 1.00

00:23:08.000 They want you dead. 1.00

00:23:08.000 They hate you. 1.00

00:23:10.000 It's really sad that conservatives don't have the cultural sticking power to make people pay for this.

00:23:16.000 When Jimmy Kimmel did his monologue on Charlie Kirk's assassination, me and Benny Johnson worked as hard as we could to get that guy fired.

00:23:23.000 And we got him taken off the air for like a week or something, which.

00:23:27.000 It was like.

00:23:28.000 It was like four or five.

00:23:29.000 Right, exactly.

00:23:30.000 Like it wasn't even able to stick. 0.95

00:23:32.000 So, even in that moment where like someone had literally been murdered in front of everyone and there was like the most amount of ferocity you would ever see from the conservative movement over it, even in that moment, it was difficult to leverage that for a full cancellation for a guy like Jimmy Kimmel, who's an absolute loser anyway.

00:23:47.000 So, I hate to say that I don't think conservatives are going to make any real hay about this, but they absolutely should.

00:23:53.000 There's no reason you should give people who want to kill you your money.

00:23:55.000 Like you really deserve what you get if you keep doing that.

00:23:57.000 You think it's because he's real quick, he's also got a recurring role in Invincible, which is a massive show.

00:24:01.000 It's just Great.

00:24:02.000 Just launched a new video game.

00:24:04.000 Mark Hamill is Invincible?

00:24:05.000 Yes.

00:24:06.000 He plays Art Rosenbaum.

00:24:06.000 Who is he in Invincible?

00:24:08.000 He plays the costume maker.

00:24:09.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:24:10.000 So it's a bit part.

00:24:11.000 Well, it's not a bit part.

00:24:12.000 It's a recurring role.

00:24:13.000 But come on.

00:24:14.000 It's a key part.

00:24:15.000 I mean, it's.

00:24:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:16.000 Like he's in all the seasons.

00:24:17.000 I like in Star Wars Episode 4, 5, and 6, you know, the first three, how he became a better actor from into the second one.

00:24:24.000 And then by the third one, like he's embodied this Jedi.

00:24:27.000 Like he truly became.

00:24:28.000 Like the force flowed through Mark Hamill to play Luke Skywalker.

00:24:32.000 I believe that.

00:24:33.000 That was my favorite movie growing up, Return of the Jedi, dude.

00:24:36.000 Oh.

00:24:37.000 That being said, that was all I had to say.

00:24:39.000 Okay.

00:24:40.000 I was going to say something else, but I got sidetracked by how awesome Mark Hamill was in Star Wars.

00:24:44.000 And now he calls for the assassination of the president.

00:24:47.000 And so do most of the people in Hollywood. 0.99

00:24:49.000 So you said that they want to kill you. 0.98

00:24:51.000 I'm not sure. 0.61

00:24:52.000 Are you being hyperbolic, or do you mean like global economic order, banking systems would rather see American citizens dead than deal with them?

00:24:59.000 No, I mean, the left sees our politics are quickly becoming existential in a way that Americans are simply not prepared for.

00:25:07.000 Like, we have this belief that really we just peacefully transfer power and that's how the system works.

00:25:13.000 And it's been true for a while in the United States.

00:25:16.000 But realistically, that's just not over history how politics works.

00:25:20.000 And we're entering a moment in which we have become so divided that there's simply no way that you're going to heal this thing.

00:25:26.000 We're not going to talk it out or have some kind of rational conversation about what's going on.

00:25:30.000 So the left is drawing the very basic conclusion that if they ever lose an election, they basically just need to murder whoever won.

00:25:37.000 Like, that really is their absolute understanding of what's going on here.

00:25:41.000 And they have not received enough of a penalty for their repeated attempts to do so.

00:25:45.000 So it's just going to keep escalating until the right takes it seriously, which they seem pretty determined not to.

00:25:50.000 I need to give some context, too, for a lot of people who just don't understand.

00:25:52.000 Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker and the Joker.

00:25:55.000 Probably his, I would argue, the Joker is a more iconic role.

00:26:00.000 It was for 30 years he played the Joker in all of these mediums.

00:26:04.000 And a lot of people don't realize this.

00:26:06.000 Number 17, Joker's Answering Machine.

00:26:09.000 Batman the Animated Series.

00:26:11.000 Hey, Bucko.

00:26:12.000 I'd be a little more careful with the luggage if I were you.

00:26:15.000 Otherwise, you might lose your tip.

00:26:17.000 Not to mention your head.

00:26:19.000 Only Mark Hamill's Joker could make an answering machine greeting so terrifying.

00:26:23.000 Anyway, the point is, that was an example of him voicing the Joker.

00:26:27.000 And he's in the video game, and he's got actually some really horrifying lines in the games when they make Joker actually murder people and stuff like that.

00:26:34.000 Yeah.

00:26:35.000 But anyway, back to your point.

00:26:36.000 Sorry for, we can go back to these people cannot, we cannot reconcile our differences and they want to kill us.

00:26:40.000 So you were saying?

00:26:41.000 I spend a lot of time with like moderate liberals.

00:26:44.000 So I think that's why when I'm around liberal people, they're usually pretty moderate.

00:26:47.000 So I don't see the extreme that you have noticed or like, you see the scale.

00:26:51.000 You tend to see things in scales, I think, too, like historically. 0.63

00:26:54.000 Well, there was this fascinating thing the other day where Stephen Colbert was interviewing Obama and they were talking about if Mamdani is the future of the Democrat Party.

00:27:02.000 And they agreed that, you know, he probably is.

00:27:05.000 And Colbert said something really fascinating, which was he said, My kids come up to me and they say, Dad, you're a liberal.

00:27:12.000 We're leftists.

00:27:13.000 Yeah.

00:27:14.000 And I think that's what we're, yeah.

00:27:15.000 Yeah.

00:27:15.000 Everyone is radicalizing.

00:27:16.000 There is no center anymore.

00:27:17.000 It's being torn apart.

00:27:19.000 And that's not a mistake.

00:27:20.000 That is both the natural gradient that the dialectic is going to take and the intentional way it's being pushed by.

00:27:26.000 Many different actors.

00:27:27.000 There was just a piece in Compact Magazine.

00:27:29.000 They were the people who did that piece about basically how all the white guys had been frozen out of hiring in media and corporations.

00:27:36.000 And they did a follow up piece on medical stuff.

00:27:38.000 And basically, it's this guy talking about coming in after the day that Charlie Kirk got shot.

00:27:43.000 And basically, all of the nurses, all of the doctors are just laughing, celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, talking about how he deserved it. 0.98

00:27:50.000 What a fascist, what a white supremacist. 0.97

00:27:52.000 These are the people who are responsible for your medical care. 1.00

00:27:54.000 They're the people who have you under the knife.

00:27:56.000 And if they find out you're conservative, What happens next?

00:27:59.000 Like, people do not understand how deep this runs.

00:28:02.000 Well, conservatives are unwilling to use power.

00:28:04.000 What I will say is, in the redistricting fight, it looks surprisingly like the conservatives are actually fighting, right?

00:28:10.000 Finally.

00:28:11.000 Yeah, I mean, the Supreme Court justices fighting.

00:28:11.000 Much better.

00:28:13.000 I was actually surprised by that.

00:28:15.000 Well, Clarence Thomas is such a.

00:28:16.000 But Alito and Thomas always have, but the other conservative justices have finally gotten on board with it.

00:28:21.000 And it's like, hey, maybe Brett Kavanaugh realized they would actually kill him and his family this time.

00:28:25.000 I think the Trump admin is probably concerned with biting the trap.

00:28:29.000 That the communists will lay out, which is like Saul Winsky's rule for radicals.

00:28:34.000 You want the opponent to become the fascist by cracking down on your street violence so that you can rally your communist allies to say, See, we told you they are fascist.

00:28:42.000 Now we need a communist revolution.

00:28:43.000 So we talk about that on this show.

00:28:45.000 I hope there's people in the Trump admin that watch this show and have understood that rule.

00:28:50.000 That's a basic radical leftist rule.

00:28:52.000 So that's why I think they're not slamming down hard with hard power and they're doing things like USAID and unraveling things behind the scenes.

00:29:00.000 I disagree significantly.

00:29:02.000 If you look at history, if you look at something like the Spanish Civil War and the escalation going into it, it was the fact that the right wing, that the standing government was not willing to deal with what was going on.

00:29:13.000 The continuous assassination of right wingers is actually what eventually drove people towards someone like Francisco Franco to solve the problem.

00:29:22.000 So if you crack down early and hard, you end up in a scenario where people don't believe they can get away with violence and you don't see the spiral of escalation.

00:29:29.000 But when you allow that, you build this basically broken window scenario.

00:29:33.000 I'm sure you're familiar with.

00:29:34.000 Broken windows policing, the idea that if you allow these in your neighborhood, it's only going to get worse because people see it's allowable and they don't care to take care of the thing around them.

00:29:43.000 Same thing is true with political violence.

00:29:45.000 Once you recognize that political violence is on the table, it becomes the only option.

00:29:49.000 It becomes the superior strategy in every scenario.

00:29:52.000 So if you don't nip it in the bud, if you don't secure the monopoly on violence as the state, someone else will do violence.

00:29:57.000 And if you allow these radical leftists to do it, it will only get worse.

00:30:01.000 Well, and we're in a situation now where people who follow the laws are held accountable to the laws.

00:30:06.000 And if you don't follow the laws, And you're just a criminal, you're not held accountable at all.

00:30:10.000 We've seen so many people and so many stories of people getting off after committing rapes or murders or really vile things, being said that they are not mentally capable to stand trial, but for some reason they're mentally capable to wander around society and kill people.

00:30:25.000 Yeah, San Francisco called this anarcho tyranny.

00:30:27.000 And again, it's an intentional strategy.

00:30:30.000 This is not a mistake. 0.58

00:30:31.000 When you recognize that you can leverage the lower classes against the middle class that actually have the power to change things, the capital, the votes, the organization. 0.69

00:30:40.000 You can actually destroy all of your up and coming opponents while maintaining your own power as an elite. 0.72

00:30:45.000 So, this is actually a surprisingly active strategy. 1.00

00:30:49.000 It's not some mistake because our elites are stupid. 1.00

00:30:52.000 No, it's effective and intentional. 1.00

00:30:54.000 The elite class will mobilize the lower class to attack the middle class.

00:30:59.000 Yes. 0.80

00:31:00.000 High and low versus middle. 0.99

00:31:03.000 You always kill the landowners. 1.00

00:31:05.000 You always kill the kulaks. 1.00

00:31:07.000 You always kill the people in the middle because they're the only people who can ascend. 1.00

00:31:10.000 They're the only people who have the money, the strategy, the leisure time.

00:31:13.000 To organize politically and fight back against the higher class. 0.88

00:31:16.000 Lower classes are never able to do that. 0.56

00:31:17.000 They're always a tool of elites that are able to organize for them.

00:31:20.000 So, what's this phenomenon of like rich kids that join Antifa?

00:31:24.000 They're the elites who are controlling the lower classes.

00:31:27.000 Oh, was that?

00:31:27.000 It's the same thing.

00:31:28.000 I wasn't in?

00:31:29.000 I thought I was sitting here going like this.

00:31:30.000 Yeah, I was trying to angle out.

00:31:32.000 Like, if you look at Mamdani, right?

00:31:33.000 Mamdani's a rich kid.

00:31:35.000 His parents are, you know, internationally wealthy. 0.90

00:31:38.000 They naturalize and deport.

00:31:39.000 And all of this stuff. 0.95

00:31:40.000 And they've got their compound in Uganda, so they can try to get right back.

00:31:44.000 But he's mobilizing. 0.97

00:31:45.000 The lower classes against the middle. 0.86

00:31:47.000 And that's why you even have black middle class homeowners in New York City being like, What the hell are you doing? 0.87

00:31:51.000 Why are you depriving us of our wealth that we. 0.89

00:31:51.000 I think. 0.89

00:31:54.000 In any functioning country, the moment Mom Dhani said that he would defy the will of the American voters to protect illegal immigrants in this country, the federal government would intervene, issue emergency management, some kind of like Reconstruction era move.

00:32:10.000 But I don't know if we have any kind of real strength in our political class.

00:32:16.000 I don't know if Donald Trump has the strength for this kind of thing.

00:32:19.000 I can't imagine they're unaware of it.

00:32:21.000 I mean, Harmite Dillon especially has to be aware of it.

00:32:24.000 Well, she's working hard at this. 0.97

00:32:26.000 She just brought, she's working against UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine or whatever it is right now.

00:32:33.000 And she said that she found that they were absolutely discriminating against white and Asian students.

00:32:38.000 And she's, you know, working to hold them accountable for that.

00:32:41.000 But after Mamdani, I had a similar thought.

00:32:43.000 I was like, you know, Trump's going to have to do something about this. 0.78

00:32:45.000 This is crazy.

00:32:46.000 We've got this socialist running our biggest and most important city.

00:32:50.000 And instead, Mom Dhani was invited into the halls of power to pallet the other powerful guy.

00:32:55.000 And it was just like, oh, look, two powerful people are in control and we get nothing.

00:32:59.000 It's not about the Asian stuff or the affirmative action, whatever. 0.56

00:33:03.000 That's a culture war thing. 0.95

00:33:05.000 What Mom Dhani represented when he campaigned explicitly on, I know what the American people have voted for and I will weaponize the wealth and resources of this city against them. 0.98

00:33:19.000 That is a, that person should be charged with sedition.

00:33:23.000 Instead, Trump invites him to the White House.

00:33:26.000 Well, he, I think because he just said he was going to do it.

00:33:29.000 And he is doing it.

00:33:30.000 He is.

00:33:30.000 He said it again.

00:33:31.000 But saying it, saying I'm going to do a crime is not illegal.

00:33:31.000 He said it again.

00:33:35.000 No, no, no.

00:33:36.000 Sedition is when you ex, you can speak sedition.

00:33:41.000 But saying I'm going to prevent you from doing something lawful, I don't think that's enough.

00:33:45.000 You got to actually, they're probably watching him now and they're like, okay, when he does it, get him.

00:33:48.000 But no, they're not.

00:33:49.000 No, sedition is when you rally people to corrupt the government.

00:33:54.000 So we've actually dealt with this multiple times in our nation's history.

00:33:56.000 We called this the nullification crisis.

00:33:59.000 Because there was a question as to whether or not the state legislatures had to enforce federal law, whether they could choose to basically ignore it because they were sovereign entities under the Constitution.

00:34:09.000 And Andrew Jackson basically said, Yeah, you're going to do what I tell you to do and threaten to use serious force.

00:34:15.000 But this was an open question for a long time in America.

00:34:18.000 It was supposed to be resolved after the nullification crisis.

00:34:21.000 But it turns out that most of the time it's one side that gets away with basically ignoring the law.

00:34:27.000 I mean, how long did we have sanctuary cities in the United States?

00:34:30.000 Flagrant violations of law, obvious instance of nullification.

00:34:33.000 No one did anything about it. 1.00

00:34:34.000 We've had them since Vietnam. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Absolutely. 0.99

00:34:36.000 And then the right, when they came, are in those situations, never do anything like that.

00:34:40.000 So now, recently, you have again, no vacation with Mamdani holding a press conference saying, We will not comply with federal law enforcement on immigration.

00:34:48.000 So here's a guy who campaigns saying, If you vote for me, vote for me in this city, I will fight against the American people.

00:34:56.000 That's what he said explicitly.

00:34:58.000 Well, I'm paraphrasing.

00:34:59.000 We're doing it against the federal government, against the federal government.

00:35:01.000 No, against the American people. 0.83

00:35:02.000 Well, not every American person.

00:35:03.000 The American people voted on a top issue, which was immigration, with even black voters in Chicago saying, We are being replaced.

00:35:11.000 Donald Trump wins the plurality with a mandate.

00:35:14.000 The people want immigration enforced.

00:35:17.000 Mamdani went to New Yorkers and said, Vote for me and I will fight them. 0.53

00:35:19.000 I will stop them.

00:35:21.000 And he's actively been doing it.

00:35:23.000 He should be criminally charged with sedition for this.

00:35:25.000 Instead, Trump invites him to the White House and says, Oh, I like him.

00:35:28.000 And they're pals.

00:35:29.000 And Mamdani has said that he gives Trump a call, you know, and the two of them love New York City.

00:35:33.000 And so they want to do what's best for the city.

00:35:36.000 But you have him also extorting Kathy Hochul.

00:35:38.000 Like there's billions more dollars in the New York State budget for New York City this year than there was last year.

00:35:45.000 All of his programs are these like deep entrenched.

00:35:48.000 Social programs, and once they're in place, it's going to be really hard to get rid of them.

00:35:51.000 No, I really, I really love how Daredevil season two.

00:35:55.000 You know what?

00:35:56.000 Actually, this is really interesting.

00:35:58.000 The boys this season accidentally like crop dusted reality with Trump, and Daredevil is accidentally crop dusting with Mondani. 0.73

00:36:10.000 So, have you guys watched the boys or Daredevil season?

00:36:14.000 Daredevil Born Again season two?

00:36:15.000 Not the second season.

00:36:16.000 I saw the first one.

00:36:17.000 So, the boys, of course, is.

00:36:20.000 Somewhat frustrating in that they really just ham it up like Trump, you know, is Homelander.

00:36:25.000 And it's kind of weird to be like Trump is Superman as an insult, seriously. 1.00

00:36:29.000 So they just make him an asshole and it's like, okay. 0.99

00:36:31.000 But they had an episode of The Boys where Homelander hallucinates this woman he used to suckle on, literally suckle on, because they're obsessed with it. 0.99

00:36:42.000 And he says, I'm, it's like she floats to him as an angel, has a vision, and he says, I'm the savior, I'm the messiah, or whatever.

00:36:50.000 And Trump put out that meme.

00:36:52.000 And everybody was like, this is really weird.

00:36:54.000 And then you actually have in one of the later episodes, again, these episodes are written and filmed before everything, where they're talking about efforts taken by Homelander, who's manipulating the president, are going to cause a spike in oil prices, and OPEC will revolt, and it's going to cut off the West.

00:37:12.000 So the US is now ramping up oil production, and they're building an oil pipeline.

00:37:16.000 And I'm like, you know, here's the thing Daredevil season two is about Kingpin, a charismatic criminal.

00:37:24.000 Rallies all the people and they all support him.

00:37:26.000 They vote for him.

00:37:27.000 He becomes despotic.

00:37:29.000 I don't want spoiler alert, I guess.

00:37:33.000 Goes to war with the governor, threatens her, and makes demands from her.

00:37:35.000 She refuses, tries to have her assassinated.

00:37:37.000 Again, I'm not suggesting someone's doing those things, but it is interesting how Daredevil season two is about a corrupt mayor taking over, claiming he loves the city, and threatening the governor and then trying to kill her.

00:37:49.000 And then Daredevil has to fight the mayor.

00:37:51.000 And I'm like, you know, now what I will say is the cops.

00:37:56.000 Are actually not the bad guys.

00:37:58.000 There's a rogue task force.

00:38:00.000 So we're not really there yet.

00:38:03.000 But I did very much enjoy Daredevil season two.

00:38:05.000 They're not doing like a Trump thing.

00:38:07.000 Kingpin is Kingpin.

00:38:08.000 He has his own armed force with illegal weapons that they brought in, and the cops stand against him in the end.

00:38:15.000 But I just thought it was funny that, you know, these two shows are kind of, you know, although they'll probably argue, no, no, Zorhan Mamdani's the good guy.

00:38:23.000 I'm like, yeah, no.

00:38:25.000 No, he's definitely not the good guy.

00:38:28.000 Definitely not.

00:38:30.000 How much of it is it that Zorhan Mamdani is just cognitively impaired?

00:38:35.000 I don't think he's at all cognitively impaired.

00:38:37.000 I think that he is, everything that he's doing is intentional and on purpose.

00:38:41.000 And that he is seeking to create New York City as some sort of socialist utopia where everyone relies on the government for everything from transportation to food to employment to healthcare to childcare to anything else he can come up with.

00:38:55.000 That's the plan.

00:38:56.000 The plan is to deprive Americans of their rights by replacing liberty with ease.

00:39:01.000 And, you know, people are so uneducated at this point with a sixth grade education that they're going to go along with it.

00:39:08.000 And so the failure is going back to the educational system where no one has learned civics, no one has learned.

00:39:13.000 About our founding documents.

00:39:15.000 Very few have, you know.

00:39:16.000 I mean, my son has for sure, but that's because he's inquisitive and me and his dad teach him all that stuff.

00:39:23.000 But yeah, that's what's going to happen.

00:39:25.000 And by the time Americans are completely deprived of their liberty and they have what they think is an easy life and they're thoroughly controlled, it's going to be way too late. 0.87

00:39:33.000 Well, and this is also why you're getting lots of mass immigration, right? 0.87

00:39:36.000 Because again, it's low and high versus the middle. 0.99

00:39:39.000 Not only do you have these students who aren't learning about it, you have a lot of immigrants who come in who just have no connection to the tradition. 1.00

00:39:43.000 They're not familiar with the history. 1.00

00:39:45.000 They don't have these expectations.

00:39:46.000 And what they walk in is like, well, even a bad life in America is way better than the life I had back there.

00:39:51.000 So I'll do and vote for, you know, do whatever Democrats say.

00:39:53.000 I'll vote for whatever they want because they're going to give me stuff.

00:39:56.000 And I don't have that back home.

00:39:57.000 And I certainly don't have it now that I've moved here.

00:39:59.000 So you're basically moving in an entire underclass yet again that you can use to leverage against existing Americans that might be able to oppose what you're doing.

00:40:06.000 And to leverage against our values.

00:40:07.000 Absolutely.

00:40:08.000 There's no off ramp, right?

00:40:11.000 With the redistricting war, we're seeing hyper polarization, but there is a solution.

00:40:16.000 Artificial intelligence surveillance.

00:40:18.000 You either hook the electrode to the brain and stimulate the dopamine until they don't work anymore, or you track them with AI surveillance and remove them from the equation before they can become a problem. 0.99

00:40:30.000 Illegal immigrants or just. 0.96

00:40:32.000 Oh, no, I'm saying if you were the powers that be and you were like, uh oh, we brought in all these immigrants and now there's going to be a civil war, you say, okay, blast out AI. 0.96

00:40:41.000 So the people who fall into the AI trap and just basically self gratify all day will disappear. 0.79

00:40:46.000 Anybody who tries to stand up will track with mass surveillance and then just remove them on some fake.

00:40:51.000 Your face was identified by a camera.

00:40:53.000 Oh, and they'll give you all kinds of stuff for that.

00:40:55.000 And that is in no way a conspiracy theory.

00:40:56.000 That's literally what's happening.

00:40:57.000 It's just what's happening.

00:40:58.000 All of our tech oligarchs are running towards the solution.

00:41:01.000 This is why every single guy is currently obsessed with AI because they know this is the only way they continue to rule at scale.

00:41:08.000 It's the only way they can control the population.

00:41:09.000 Don't you want to just like put on the VR headset and go to a world exactly as you would describe it?

00:41:14.000 Well, and we've already, you know, putting kill switches in every car in the United States is the current plan that both.

00:41:20.000 Parties are for some reason rubber stamping.

00:41:22.000 So it's very, let me ask you, I'm so against it.

00:41:26.000 Our ancestors fought over tea taxes.

00:41:29.000 And we're just going willingly.

00:41:29.000 Yes.

00:41:31.000 Yes.

00:41:32.000 Let me ask you let's say, you know, like one day government dudes, men in black, show up to your house or whatever, and they're like, you know, you're a problem for what we're doing.

00:41:42.000 So we're going to give you a choice. 0.54

00:41:44.000 You can stop doing politics and we'll pay you.

00:41:49.000 Just never do politics again. 0.58

00:41:51.000 Disappear.

00:41:52.000 Here's a VR helmet.

00:41:53.000 You can put it on, play video games all day, order pizza, or solitary confinement and merciless beatings.

00:42:00.000 Which would you pick?

00:42:01.000 I mean, the option is go down shooting, right?

00:42:03.000 Like at that point, there's no reason to live in a virtual world.

00:42:06.000 Like, there's nothing real there.

00:42:08.000 Well, I don't mean literally.

00:42:08.000 There's no.

00:42:09.000 I'm saying, like, we'll pay you to shut up. 0.98

00:42:11.000 Yeah, no. 0.96

00:42:12.000 I'm saying, like, play video games all day.

00:42:13.000 Here's money.

00:42:13.000 You'll have a salary.

00:42:14.000 You can just go away and let us take over.

00:42:16.000 Well, our sci fi authors told us about this already.

00:42:19.000 You know, we have Fahrenheit 451.

00:42:22.000 I'm dedicated to being the house on the street that doesn't have the blue light coming from it.

00:42:27.000 You know what?

00:42:27.000 You know what we should do?

00:42:27.000 You know what?

00:42:28.000 You know what I want to do?

00:42:29.000 I want to launch an advertising firm.

00:42:32.000 And then I just want to just offer money to various political commentators for what, Seemingly, it would be like normal products just to see who would take it.

00:42:40.000 And the products will always be like, you know, this is a really good idea, actually.

00:42:43.000 This would be a great culture jam.

00:42:46.000 You know, with the animal farm thing, we saw a ton of conservatives shill for communism because they were paid to do it.

00:42:51.000 But it would be funny to do the inverse to liberals and some more conservatives, too.

00:42:54.000 I'd love to wrap them all up.

00:42:56.000 And then you like launch a product where it seems somewhat normal, like, you know, it's a face cream and it's like, yeah, it's like to clear up your acne, it's like organic.

00:43:05.000 But then it turns out it's made with like aborted baby parts.

00:43:07.000 And it's like, see how many conservatives would sell that.

00:43:09.000 They'd probably all do it.

00:43:10.000 Well, they wouldn't notice.

00:43:12.000 They wouldn't look into it.

00:43:13.000 They wouldn't.

00:43:13.000 Would you put on the website be like, made with a board baby parcel?

00:43:15.000 That whole thing where you were going against the animal farm, my son was like, why does Tim hate this animal farm?

00:43:15.000 It's funny, I don't know.

00:43:21.000 What's up with it?

00:43:22.000 And I told him the whole thing, and he was like, oh.

00:43:24.000 And then he comes home yesterday.

00:43:26.000 He's like, so I watched the 1958 animal farm.

00:43:30.000 It was really good.

00:43:31.000 He went and found the old one.

00:43:32.000 Well, that was made by the CIA.

00:43:33.000 The old one?

00:43:34.000 Yeah, the cartoon.

00:43:35.000 Yeah.

00:43:35.000 Yeah, because they were like, hey, look, communism is bad.

00:43:35.000 Interesting.

00:43:37.000 Everybody watch.

00:43:38.000 And it bombed.

00:43:39.000 Like people didn't care.

00:43:40.000 Well, it worked.

00:43:41.000 My son came home and said communism is.

00:43:43.000 So let me ask you guys this.

00:43:45.000 Would you be happy if the government started funding anti communist propaganda?

00:43:51.000 Like, let's say Donald Trump was like, we're going to be launching a new media division, a billion dollars in grants for content creators.

00:43:58.000 And then they gave Seamus Coughlin like $10 million to make cartoons.

00:44:02.000 It depends on how they do it.

00:44:03.000 Because I really don't like when people say, I hate communists. 0.99

00:44:07.000 Communists are the problem. 0.96

00:44:08.000 Because I think communism is the problem. 0.69

00:44:11.000 If it was to move to educate people about the dangers of communism, I'm in.

00:44:14.000 I feel like they've spent a lot more money on stuff that we don't need.

00:44:19.000 But to the question, would you be upset if Donald Trump said we're going to allocate public funding towards anti communist propaganda?

00:44:24.000 Absolutely not.

00:44:25.000 We already allocate massive amounts of funding to communist propaganda at public schools.

00:44:30.000 So, yeah, I know it would be nice to have a little bit of a switch up there. 0.97

00:44:32.000 Yeah, I mean, I'd like to see an end to the propagandist funding of our textbooks, making them pro Islam and all the rest of it. 0.56

00:44:39.000 I'd rather see anti communist propaganda than anything else. 0.92

00:44:43.000 That being said, I'd rather just have.

00:44:45.000 Good schools where people can learn how to think for themselves and how to form.

00:44:49.000 What if, how would you feel about Trump announcing he was going to be enforcing the ban on communism, which is still law?

00:44:56.000 I don't know what that looks like.

00:44:58.000 What would a ban on communism be?

00:44:59.000 Yeah, somebody who is an avowed communist can no longer run for office, disqualified from office.

00:45:04.000 They can't, they're exceptions to the Civil Rights Act.

00:45:09.000 I mean, I think it's fair.

00:45:11.000 If you're an avowed monarchist, you shouldn't be running for public office in the United States.

00:45:15.000 Say, you're allowed to be king.

00:45:17.000 What was the law called?

00:45:18.000 I don't remember what was this, McCarthy?

00:45:21.000 The communism bill.

00:45:22.000 This was like the McCarthy stuff. 0.63

00:45:23.000 Yeah, you know that communists are exempt from the Civil Rights Act, right?

00:45:26.000 I mean, I believe that communists shouldn't have civil rights. 0.77

00:45:28.000 That's entirely possible.

00:45:29.000 So, if you are, according to the law, and again, this is why I say the law is meaningless.

00:45:33.000 What matters is the willingness of a people to exert authority.

00:45:37.000 It was Josie that actually went viral on X for posting this.

00:45:41.000 The law, I believe the Civil Rights Act actually has an exemption for communists.

00:45:46.000 That means if you're a communist and you go to like a bakery, And some guy is like, hey, you know, you're a particular religion, get out.

00:45:53.000 He goes, hey, you can't tell me that's a violation of the Civil Rights Act.

00:45:56.000 They go, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:45:57.000 You're a communist?

00:45:58.000 Okay, no protections.

00:45:59.000 Well, communism isn't a religion, it's an ideology.

00:46:02.000 No, no, no, but you have no protections for any reason if you are protected class plus communist. 0.62

00:46:08.000 So if they're like, women aren't allowed in here, you go, that's not allowed. 0.96

00:46:11.000 And go, actually, I can kick you up because you're a communist. 0.98

00:46:13.000 Because I'm a commie. 0.99

00:46:14.000 Yeah.

00:46:14.000 Well, communism is not, you got to teach, I think, every generation about communism because it comes from just a general human.

00:46:20.000 Communism Control Act of 1954.

00:46:22.000 It comes from this human instinct of we together are strong, which is true.

00:46:26.000 We're communal animals, communal leading towards.

00:46:29.000 And, but so people say, if we come together, we can, Overcome the problem, which is also true.

00:46:34.000 But then what happens?

00:46:35.000 A small group of people are still in control.

00:46:38.000 It's called vanguardism.

00:46:39.000 There are no communist governments.

00:46:40.000 They're all vanguardists.

00:46:41.000 The Chinese, the Soviets, they were vanguardists.

00:46:43.000 So this is actually a really interesting problem.

00:46:46.000 James Burnham wrote a book called The Managerial Revolution.

00:46:50.000 And basically, what he was trying to explain is that communism, fascism, and yes, even liberal democracy were all basically converging on the same system of managerialism, the elite vanguard that you're describing there.

00:47:02.000 And so what we're really Talking about is not the issue of communism.

00:47:05.000 What we're talking about is the issue of high scale centralized governments in a managerial process.

00:47:11.000 And that's why it reliably produces the same outcome.

00:47:13.000 People say, oh, fascism and communism are the same thing.

00:47:17.000 Well, kind of, because they're actually all trying to deal with the same problem, which is mass consumption, mass production, the creation of kind of the Industrial Revolution and modern capitalism.

00:47:27.000 They're all reactions to that.

00:47:29.000 And so if you don't understand it in that historical framework, you don't really get what the problem with communism is.

00:47:34.000 Yeah, the economic.

00:47:35.000 Issues of communism are real.

00:47:37.000 What you're really looking at is the problem of scale, something that we still are not capable of dealing with.

00:47:42.000 And so it produces these perverse ideological incentives that work themselves out reliably in systems like communism.

00:47:47.000 Yeah, I got to issue a correction.

00:47:49.000 So it's specifically that communist members of communist organizations that were subject to registration.

00:47:55.000 So these are communist action organizations, front organizations.

00:47:59.000 And I believe I actually have a list of what defines the organization.

00:48:03.000 They're officially on paper saying Communist Party of the United States, any successors of such party, regardless of assumed name.

00:48:09.000 Whose objective purpose is to overthrow the government of the United States or the government of any state, territory, district, or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein by force, are not entitled to any rights, privileges, and immunities attended upon legal bodies created under the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof.

00:48:26.000 And whatever rights, privileges, and immunities which have heretofore been granted to said party or any subsidiary organization by reason of the laws of the United States shall be terminated.

00:48:36.000 Blah, So basically, Donald Trump.

00:48:39.000 He could literally be like, Are you a communist?

00:48:42.000 Like the DSA, for instance.

00:48:44.000 Any subsequent successors of the Communist Party.

00:48:48.000 And then he could be like, Okay, you now have no rights under the United States at all.

00:48:52.000 That would be probably too far because they're socialists, not technically communists.

00:48:56.000 Yeah, but that's how you get to communism.

00:48:57.000 But that's immaterial.

00:48:59.000 But that's like speeding the grass is how you get to speeding.

00:49:01.000 Zorhan Mamdani brought a woman on his campaign and says, Hire more, elect more communists.

00:49:05.000 And Zorhan Mamdani himself has posts about being a communist, but then just says, I'm a socialist.

00:49:10.000 It's a meaningless distinction to these people.

00:49:11.000 I think that it doesn't matter, however, because the law says any successor thereof.

00:49:15.000 On paper.

00:49:16.000 They have to write down, I'm part of a thing.

00:49:16.000 Yeah, on paper.

00:49:18.000 Incorrect.

00:49:19.000 That's not what you said.

00:49:20.000 They have to be titled that they've joined a thing of communism.

00:49:23.000 They can't just say, I'm a communist and lose all of it.

00:49:25.000 Yeah, you weren't listening to what I just read.

00:49:27.000 Maybe I didn't understand it.

00:49:27.000 Well, I was.

00:49:29.000 Perhaps that's what it is.

00:49:30.000 The law that I just read says, any successor of the Communist Party.

00:49:35.000 That's ill defined.

00:49:36.000 Trump could just say.

00:49:37.000 No, not on paper.

00:49:38.000 But I think it's saying that a successor of the Communist Party, meaning like.

00:49:42.000 Regardless of assumed name.

00:49:46.000 Well, hey, me.

00:49:47.000 My point is this the law doesn't matter.

00:49:50.000 We have the VRA, we have Section 2, and I'll have to hear your thoughts on this.

00:49:57.000 The Voting Rights Act says no discrimination based on race in voting. 0.93

00:50:00.000 So in 1965, the courts go, okay, this means you have to make all black districts.

00:50:06.000 Today, under the exact same language, the Supreme Court says, no, no, that means you can't make all black districts.

00:50:11.000 It's the same law with inverted meaning.

00:50:14.000 So the point is, Trump could look at this law and say, the DSA is a successor party of the Communist Party.

00:50:21.000 Anybody who says their DSA has just forfeited all rights.

00:50:25.000 Yeah, this is a constant part of the Civil Rights Act, actually.

00:50:28.000 So originally, when it was written, it said explicitly, For instance, that you couldn't privilege people due to the race or specifically draw lines when it comes to outcomes.

00:50:36.000 And then a few years later, the courts ruled in Griggs versus Duke Power that you could create this disparate impact test.

00:50:44.000 And if there's any disparate impact between the races, even if you can't prove there was racism, you are by default violating the Civil Rights Act and it's therefore racist.

00:50:53.000 So this has been the case with the Civil Rights Act forever.

00:50:54.000 They just rewrite it whenever they want to.

00:50:56.000 It doesn't mean anything.

00:50:59.000 In 2022, 23, 24, They raided Donald Trump's home, falsely accused him of crimes, falsely accused him of civil fraud.

00:51:09.000 They arrested his lawyers for providing legal service.

00:51:14.000 They sued Texas to block them from being able to redistrict. 1.00

00:51:18.000 They locked up all of the J 6ers, many in solitary confinement for years, some who did literal nothing. 1.00

00:51:25.000 Owen Schroyer, who never even walked in the building. 1.00

00:51:28.000 And you're saying, no, it's going too far.

00:51:30.000 Well, no, I'm just saying.

00:51:31.000 I'm reading about it right now.

00:51:32.000 The DSA was formed in 1982, and it was a merger of two left wing organizations, the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee.

00:51:37.000 And the new American movement.

00:51:39.000 So it wasn't a subsidiary of the communist party.

00:51:42.000 That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

00:51:43.000 The law says if it comes from like a subsidiary or a word of.

00:51:47.000 Successor.

00:51:48.000 Successor to the communist party.

00:51:50.000 This is a new formation of a different ideology.

00:51:50.000 This was not.

00:51:52.000 I don't think you understand what we're talking about.

00:51:54.000 The point that we are making is that the law is what the person with power decides it is.

00:51:59.000 Of course, it's interpretable by the courts.

00:52:01.000 Yes.

00:52:02.000 You could just say the DSA is a successor to the communist party.

00:52:02.000 Indeed.

00:52:04.000 Well, I would disagree with that statement.

00:52:06.000 I asked you a question, Ian.

00:52:07.000 What's the question?

00:52:08.000 They raided his home.

00:52:08.000 They arrested Trump.

00:52:09.000 They targeted his family.

00:52:10.000 They arrested his lawyers. 0.76

00:52:11.000 They put Jay Sixers.

00:52:12.000 In solitary confinement for years for trespass.

00:52:14.000 Owen Schroer went to prison, didn't even enter the building, and they went at sentencing.

00:52:18.000 They said he deserved a longer sentence because he had criticized them in the time between.

00:52:24.000 What point is too far for you?

00:52:26.000 2012?

00:52:29.000 I was pushed too far in 2012 when Obama wanted to sign us onto the TPP.

00:52:32.000 I've already been pushed too far, Tim.

00:52:34.000 So I disagree because your argument is that Trump should not do anything on TV.

00:52:39.000 My argument is a lot of that stuff, yeah.

00:52:40.000 But what do you, I mean, I'm about as radical as it comes, dude. 0.57

00:52:43.000 Okay, so Donald Trump should go arrest communists.

00:52:44.000 I'm not saying that.

00:52:46.000 Right, because they haven't gone too far for that.

00:52:47.000 Because we're on TV and I don't talk about that kind of stuff on TV, bro, because we're subverting the world economic order.

00:52:52.000 Like, what do you want to.

00:52:53.000 What?

00:52:54.000 We're trying to preserve American freedom, man.

00:52:56.000 You can't just overtly say it.

00:52:57.000 You got to do it.

00:52:58.000 What?

00:52:59.000 Yes, Trump should go arrest these people.

00:53:00.000 I'm not.

00:53:01.000 I don't.

00:53:03.000 I mean, depends on who.

00:53:05.000 So, Ram, Mom's on it.

00:53:06.000 Mom is a lot of these arrests.

00:53:07.000 Okay, let's say Comey, for instance.

00:53:09.000 What's he going to get out of an arrest of Comey?

00:53:11.000 Are they just emotional satisfaction?

00:53:11.000 I don't know.

00:53:13.000 What?

00:53:14.000 So, let's go back to the original point of the conversation.

00:53:17.000 Zorhan Mamdani campaigned on fighting the American people.

00:53:22.000 The American people said, hey, we shouldn't have illegal immigration. 0.86

00:53:25.000 And Zorhan Mamdani says, I will stop them.

00:53:28.000 Okay, that is seditious.

00:53:32.000 I mean, he's crossing the line.

00:53:33.000 My take if I was in charge, if I was the president and a mayor said that, I would have mass surveillance on that guy 24 7.

00:53:40.000 And if he makes a move that's actually illegal.

00:53:43.000 He did.

00:53:44.000 Well, a big.

00:53:46.000 I'm not going to charge him and then get the charges dropped.

00:53:50.000 I got a question for you, Arn.

00:53:51.000 Do you think that Trump and his administration are cognizant of these things, but they're playing strategically?

00:53:51.000 Do you think.

00:53:57.000 I think they're aware, and I'm with you, that the Trump administration should be far more aggressive and far more creative with its use of the law and power.

00:54:06.000 I will say one thing, however, that is a huge stumbling block.

00:54:09.000 The thing that Biden and Obama and all these people have going for them is that all of the system already aligns with what they want to do and what they want to believe.

00:54:17.000 So the reason that it feels like guys like Obama or Biden are ultimately more powerful when they're in office.

00:54:23.000 Isn't because they gained any kind of new ability by taking over that office.

00:54:27.000 You know, the Article II of the Constitution didn't change.

00:54:29.000 What happens is all the other branches of government, all the other mechanisms, all of the bureaucracy is already aligned with them.

00:54:36.000 And so they just move in that direction and allow them to do whatever they want to do.

00:54:39.000 When Trump's in office, all of that machinery is pushing against it.

00:54:42.000 So I think the administration is doing its best to try to turn that ship.

00:54:45.000 I think that's why you're seeing Army Dillon and others kind of doing good work.

00:54:48.000 But half of her office won't work for her, even now, after so many people have been fired or left, because They just hate the Republicans and they're going to dig in and do that.

00:54:57.000 Same thing with the FBI.

00:54:58.000 We've already seen Dan Bongino more or less tell us that the FBI wasn't really working for Trump or a good percentage of them weren't.

00:55:05.000 They are not under the control of the government.

00:55:06.000 So technically, the Republicans won that election.

00:55:08.000 Technically, Trump is in power.

00:55:10.000 But when you look at the actual mechanisms of government, they don't have access to the same thing.

00:55:14.000 And so I don't think they can use the law the same way that the left has, even though I think they should do the most they can.

00:55:20.000 Should Trump run for a third term?

00:55:23.000 No.

00:55:23.000 I mean, at that point, let's just.

00:55:25.000 You know, skip over the formalities here and get rid of the running part.

00:55:31.000 Yeah, that's not going to happen.

00:55:32.000 I mean, Trump's going to leave and someone else is going to commit.

00:55:35.000 He's 80.

00:55:36.000 What do you think of Rubio?

00:55:38.000 He's done a really great job.

00:55:38.000 I like Rubio.

00:55:39.000 He's been very professional.

00:55:40.000 I think he's done a good job, too.

00:55:41.000 I think Marco Rubio has shilled for amnesty his entire life and then suddenly turned around for a year and said, actually, maybe I don't believe in amnesty because the Trump administration told me I don't.

00:55:52.000 And then just yesterday, he was saying, actually, anyone from anywhere can be an American again.

00:55:56.000 So, I'm very, very worried about Marco Rubio when it comes to.

00:56:00.000 What he was saying was, I think, a little different.

00:56:02.000 I think he was saying that anyone from anywhere can come here and achieve.

00:56:06.000 But I think what he, my interpretation of that, because I thought that those were really great remarks.

00:56:11.000 And I think that my understanding of an American, and I think you might disagree with me, but it's someone who is either born in America and you accept our values and our culture and you're part of this country and it's where you're from.

00:56:27.000 Or if you're an immigrant and you come here, you cast off all your other ties, you cast off any allegiance to your home nation, and you say, I'm going to be an American.

00:56:35.000 I'm going to embrace these values, this culture, these founding documents, and I'm going to do my best to achieve on these terms.

00:56:42.000 So I do think that immigrants have a place in this country and have a place to, you know, achieve and take advantage of everything that's great that there is to offer, but not to come here and get handouts.

00:56:53.000 But that's not what we're getting at all.

00:56:54.000 That's exactly the opposite.

00:56:55.000 And we haven't seen that.

00:56:56.000 But I think that that's what Rubio was talking about.

00:56:56.000 Right.

00:56:58.000 That's how it's.

00:56:59.000 Sounded to me.

00:57:00.000 But he has to come up against the problem here.

00:57:03.000 We just heard Gorsuch talk about how we are a creedal nation.

00:57:03.000 And we're hearing a lot of it.

00:57:09.000 We don't have a shared religion.

00:57:10.000 We don't have a shared heritage.

00:57:12.000 We don't have any of these things.

00:57:13.000 It's just we're people with a set of documents and that's all we are.

00:57:16.000 That's a total misinterpretation of what the documents actually are and what they stand for.

00:57:21.000 Because if you grow up in this country, if you embrace these documents, if you embrace these ideals, then that creates a common culture.

00:57:28.000 This is a misunderstanding of the nature of.

00:57:30.000 Political constitutions.

00:57:32.000 So constitutions are not a document that you think of a priori and then they push down and dictate the way you live your life.

00:57:40.000 They emanate from the way of being of the people in the first place.

00:57:43.000 Right, that's exactly right.

00:57:44.000 So if you're raised in accordance with these ideals, then that becomes our culture.

00:57:49.000 It doesn't become our culture.

00:57:50.000 It was already our culture.

00:57:51.000 That's the key.

00:57:52.000 It's a continuity of a tradition and a heritage.

00:57:55.000 It's not simply something that you adopt because you feel like now you want to be part of America.

00:57:59.000 You have to be in a language.

00:58:01.000 If you're an immigrant, then you have to adopt it. 1.00

00:58:03.000 But they don't. 1.00

00:58:04.000 And we don't enforce it.

00:58:06.000 No, we don't enforce assimilation.

00:58:08.000 Ilhan Omar hates the Constitution.

00:58:10.000 Sure, we don't enforce assimilation.

00:58:11.000 And that's a problem. 0.99

00:58:12.000 And she's allowed to not get expelled from the country. 1.00

00:58:14.000 She's allowed to literally have one of the most important positions in the country.

00:58:18.000 No, I understand that.

00:58:19.000 And I think that that's completely. 0.98

00:58:21.000 Ridiculous.

00:58:21.000 But how would we shift that without changing the understanding of what America is?

00:58:25.000 Assimilation used to be much more enforced.

00:58:28.000 It was enforced in our schools and our educational system.

00:58:31.000 It was enforced by parents who were immigrants who come here and they say, you know, you're going to be American now. 0.91

00:58:35.000 We're not going to speak Italian at home.

00:58:38.000 We're not going to use our Italian names.

00:58:40.000 You know, that was certainly my ancestors on one side.

00:58:44.000 You also have, and he's derided for it, but you also have the way Henry Ford took that.

00:58:50.000 I had a friend. 0.99

00:58:51.000 20 years ago, I was skating in Chicago, and a Mexican dude, one day he came to the skate park and he was super pissed off. 1.00

00:59:00.000 And I was like, Bro, what are you? 1.00

00:59:01.000 You're all pissed off. 0.99

00:59:02.000 And he started complaining about white people. 0.98

00:59:04.000 And then I was like, I don't know why you're all mad. 0.99

00:59:07.000 And he started talking smack about white people. 1.00

00:59:09.000 They steal everything, they stole this land. 0.99

00:59:12.000 And then he said, My grandmother told me to have as many kids as possible so that we can steal the land back from them because we outvote them.

00:59:19.000 And then I was like, Wow, sure, whatever.

00:59:22.000 I don't know.

00:59:23.000 I'm skating, bro.

00:59:24.000 I've seen this.

00:59:25.000 A common misconception against lower tiered thinking people on the left.

00:59:25.000 It's kind of wild.

00:59:29.000 They really believe it's about race. 0.97

00:59:31.000 That when there's immigration and people on the right are upset that the city is now multicultural, whatever, they're like, oh, they hate black people or they hate Indian people. 0.82

00:59:40.000 When the real concern is the cultural deconstruction.

00:59:44.000 That's what people are.

00:59:46.000 There are racists, of course, but many people are afraid that the American culture is being diffused.

00:59:50.000 Not that the race, it's not about race.

00:59:53.000 Let me play this video for you, Ian, all right?

00:59:55.000 So we got this video, it's from Black People of Reddit.

00:59:55.000 Check this out.

00:59:58.000 And it's response to this comment voting may matter within the Constitutional Republic, but uh, well, the Constitutional Republic is nearly an open air prison.

01:00:05.000 Listen to what this man has to say.

01:00:07.000 Apparently, we can't listen to what he has to say.

01:00:09.000 Let me pause real quick and make sure that we're listening, but I heard nothing.

01:00:11.000 It's because it's default muted.

01:00:13.000 Listening and hearing are not the same. 1.00

01:00:14.000 I am so fucking tired of white men cosplaying the apocalypse. 1.00

01:00:18.000 The only fucking reason why we needed the goddamn Voting Rights Act in the first place is because of white men. 1.00

01:00:25.000 I don't care that you don't fucking see the value in it. 1.00

01:00:29.000 Neither did your great grandfather, and that's the fucking reason we have it. 0.99

01:00:34.000 It got passed in the fucking 60s. 0.99

01:00:36.000 I am tired of it. 1.00

01:00:37.000 I'm tired of fucking pretending that the motherfuckers responsible for us needing it aren't alive. 1.00

01:00:44.000 They're alive, and you call them grandma. 1.00

01:00:47.000 So, no, white boy, I don't care what the fuck you think about the goddamn Voting Rights Act. 1.00

01:00:52.000 I don't care. 1.00

01:00:54.000 I don't care what any white person thinks about it. 1.00

01:00:56.000 That fucking all. 1.00

01:00:58.000 Because the only reason we need any of this shit is because white people. 1.00

01:01:03.000 Needed to be told in writing not to be awful. 1.00

01:01:08.000 That's why.

01:01:09.000 You guys should tell them in writing.

01:01:11.000 But that's what laws are. 1.00

01:01:12.000 They're telling you not to be a piece of shit. 1.00

01:01:16.000 It's very weird that we have so many fucking laws surrounding race because white men won't fucking be better. 1.00

01:01:24.000 They won't be better. 1.00

01:01:26.000 They won't do better. 0.98

01:01:27.000 It doesn't fucking matter what year it is. 0.97

01:01:30.000 In the year of our Lord 2026, we are still discussing the merits of. 1.00

01:01:34.000 Black people fucking voting because you are not different than your fucking ancestors. 1.00

01:01:40.000 You know, I thought about it for a while. 1.00

01:01:42.000 The first reaction I had was like it was like a visceral anger to him at just attacking white people.

01:01:47.000 I'm not completely white, but I'm a little bit. 0.93

01:01:49.000 And then I stopped and really thought about what he was saying, and I was like, no, I mean, he's right.

01:01:55.000 People need to be told based on their race to be better. 0.94

01:01:59.000 And when it turns out, according to the FBI crime stats, that it's largely black men committing all the violent crimes, this man has inspired me. 0.99

01:02:08.000 And I think based on his advocacy and his name, we shall put forth laws that give you harsher penalties if you commit a crime while being black. 1.00

01:02:19.000 Is that the argument he's making? 1.00

01:02:21.000 Is that what you would like, sir? 0.99

01:02:23.000 Well, he says white men are bad and they got to do better. 0.99

01:02:25.000 And I'm like, yeah. 1.00

01:02:26.000 And, you know, and there's other bad people who are black. 0.97

01:02:29.000 So maybe if he says we need laws to stop white people from being bad, maybe if we make laws specifically targeting black people the way he's argued, it might stop the murders. 0.95

01:02:37.000 Yeah, it would probably tell you that there already are those laws in place. 0.86

01:02:41.000 If this dude was a white dude with like maybe a shaved head and he was screaming about black people, you black people, could you imagine how much negative attention he'd be getting? 0.72

01:02:52.000 You know what we can do? 0.90

01:02:53.000 We can put this through AI and actually do that.

01:02:54.000 And that'd be hilarious.

01:02:55.000 That's a good idea.

01:02:56.000 It was such a racist thing. 1.00

01:02:57.000 That's like the first good reason we did these laws in the first place because of black men. 0.99

01:03:01.000 Well, I mean, the funny thing about this is, you know, we're doing the old, well, what if the roles were reversed, which is, yeah, okay. 0.96

01:03:08.000 So obviously you can be racist against white people and not black people, news at 11.

01:03:12.000 But also, like, the bigger part of his rant here is, is like, well, why do you have so many laws centered around race?

01:03:17.000 And actually, that's a really great question, right?

01:03:19.000 Because the left says we have to have them because America is inherently racist.

01:03:23.000 And without that, we're going to have all of the racist outcomes that Americans really want.

01:03:28.000 But the funny thing is, you can't get Republicans to roll these back, either.

01:03:32.000 Usually, it's kind of impressive that we finally saw that in the Voting Rights Act.

01:03:36.000 And once again, God bless Clarence Thomas and his absolute, like, just carrying the constitutional order on his shoulders. 0.58

01:03:43.000 However, one of the reasons those laws exist is despite decades and decades and decades of basically rigging the entire system in favor of minorities, we still see disparate outcomes. 0.72

01:03:56.000 We have changed the laws to make it harder to fire minorities, easier to hire them, make it basically illegal to have too many white people in your office. 0.51

01:04:04.000 We've done this for education, and none of this has significantly shifted the outcomes. 0.83

01:04:09.000 In fact, they've become worse.

01:04:10.000 That was one of the things that radicalized me as well in 2012.

01:04:12.000 I went to Occupy Wall Street, 2011, whatever it was.

01:04:14.000 I was going to speak and read the Constitution.

01:04:16.000 No, we had too many white people speak.

01:04:19.000 You're a victim of the progressive stack. 1.00

01:04:21.000 I also want to just point out the stupidity here. 1.00

01:04:23.000 When he's like, you call him grandma. 1.00

01:04:25.000 Like, bro, that was 1965.

01:04:27.000 My grandparents are not alive.

01:04:28.000 I'm 40 years old, dude.

01:04:29.000 Look, bro, we're post slavery.

01:04:31.000 This country's still here.

01:04:32.000 There are some hundred year olds around, I guess.

01:04:34.000 But in 1965, when these laws were being passed, The voting bloc that was influencing this, that passed this, they were in their late 30s or 40s.

01:04:42.000 Those people are not 100, they're not around anymore.

01:04:46.000 Well, everyone also forgets that that march on Washington was a march for civil rights and jobs.

01:04:52.000 So there were a lot of working class people out there who just wanted, like, you know, a job.

01:04:57.000 They just wanted, like, decent wages.

01:04:59.000 And that was a huge part of it.

01:05:00.000 And that was a huge part of how you got such a wide coalition of people who were in favor of these, in favor of, That whole, you know, like what and how in what way do they get jobs?

01:05:11.000 What are they looking for?

01:05:12.000 Oh, I don't know if they got jobs, but that was what the march was called, you know.

01:05:16.000 And I know that, like, um, uh, I, you know, I know there's people in my family ancestors, whatever, people who went to the march and that's what they were there for.

01:05:25.000 It was like civil rights and jobs.

01:05:27.000 They wanted, like, just like people now today are like, we want good jobs so we can raise our families, you know, without worrying about having to get five jobs.

01:05:35.000 I want to nitpick this guy's argument a little bit because America is a very young country and it's just freshly.

01:05:35.000 It's the same kind of thing.

01:05:41.000 Post slavery, in the grand scheme of things, 100 years or whatever, 170 years, 160 years.

01:05:45.000 So, like our slaves happened to be from one part of the world. 0.87

01:05:50.000 That's the skin color of those people happened to be the way that was. 0.69

01:05:53.000 It's not like if we'd taken Indian slaves, then all this whole thing would be about Indians wanting Indian rights and Indians.

01:05:59.000 Well, I don't know.

01:05:59.000 Did you see the thing, though?

01:06:00.000 The Green Party in the UK.

01:06:01.000 Did you see this woman in the Green Party?

01:06:03.000 She was demanding reparations for slavery from the government.

01:06:07.000 And it turned out, yeah, whatever. 1.00

01:06:08.000 Green Party, they're idiots. 1.00

01:06:09.000 But this black woman in the UK demanding reparations. 1.00

01:06:12.000 And it turned out that she was descended from a tribe that sold slaves. 0.73

01:06:18.000 Africans into slavery.

01:06:19.000 I mean, if you look at it now, there's more slavery right now in the Middle East than there was during the entire like slave trade in the United States. 0.71

01:06:29.000 I gotta say something because the one thing I can respect for a lot of the social justice stuff is I was hanging out at the poker room as one does, and there was a black dude he was playing, and a question came up.

01:06:40.000 I can't remember why, but someone mentioned like Europe and their like grandparents, and I said, Oh, you can become a citizen.

01:06:47.000 Like, apparently.

01:06:48.000 In some circumstances, if you're like your grandparent is from there, you can go back and then reapply.

01:06:52.000 And then this guy asked me, he's like, Oh, you could do that?

01:06:55.000 And I was like, No, I can't do that.

01:06:56.000 I was like, I can get a B visa from Korea, which is like a two year live work for being part Korean.

01:07:01.000 And he goes, Yeah.

01:07:03.000 He's like, I don't got nothing like that because I don't know where my family came from.

01:07:07.000 And I was like, Oh, I was like, Yeah, that's kind of messed up.

01:07:09.000 And he's like, Yeah.

01:07:10.000 And then he's like, You like Trump?

01:07:12.000 And I was like, Yeah.

01:07:13.000 And he goes, I love Trump.

01:07:14.000 I just thought it was funny that, like, this conversation, he's pointing out that the history, Of most black people in this country.

01:07:20.000 I say most because there's people coming from Haiti or they emigrate here.

01:07:22.000 But there are a lot of people who are descended from slaves.

01:07:24.000 They don't have that.

01:07:25.000 I know where my country is.

01:07:27.000 At the same time, this guy loved Trump and he hated Democrats.

01:07:29.000 Well, his country is right here.

01:07:30.000 Like, this is his country. 0.93

01:07:32.000 Well, black Americans have a real ethnogenesis because of that, because they didn't have any tie to previous heritage.

01:07:38.000 Like, America is the country for black Americans.

01:07:38.000 Right.

01:07:42.000 I can point that, yes.

01:07:44.000 But I also think there is something.

01:07:47.000 I can respect the position of.

01:07:49.000 I don't have that.

01:07:50.000 The guy wasn't complaining.

01:07:51.000 He wasn't saying, I've been aggrieved.

01:07:53.000 He was just like, Yeah, I don't have that.

01:07:54.000 I was like, Oh, yeah, wow.

01:07:54.000 Like, I understand.

01:07:55.000 It is horrible.

01:07:56.000 But he loved Trump and it was funny. 0.99

01:07:57.000 And then some white guy at the table said, Trump is the worst ever. 0.81

01:08:00.000 I just think it's hilarious. 0.99

01:08:01.000 And I'm like, You know, he said to me, he goes, Trump's a gangster. 0.98

01:08:04.000 And he's like, And all the black people love him. 0.97

01:08:05.000 And I was like, I don't know about all of them.

01:08:07.000 And he was like, Well, where I come from. 0.78

01:08:09.000 And then the white guys at the table were just like, He's the worst president we've ever had.

01:08:12.000 It's just a funny contrast.

01:08:14.000 I don't think he's even close to the worst president we've ever had.

01:08:17.000 No, I think he's one of the best, actually.

01:08:18.000 Yeah.

01:08:19.000 At least he's the best president of my lifetime.

01:08:22.000 And I said that and I was like, guys, you got to understand the bar is underground at this point.

01:08:26.000 So, there being a bar laying on the ground and that's Trump and we can just like look at it is better than we've had.

01:08:32.000 He's like, bucking the CIA.

01:08:33.000 He seems to be, which is what Kennedy tried to do and failed at because he's, I think Trump was ready for it.

01:08:39.000 Yeah.

01:08:40.000 Ripping to shreds, scattering to the wind or whatever, splintering?

01:08:40.000 What do you say?

01:08:42.000 Yeah.

01:08:42.000 Kennedy said that.

01:08:43.000 And then I don't know when he ended up at the bottom of it.

01:08:45.000 And then he died. 0.98

01:08:46.000 Well, they tried to kill Trump four times.

01:08:48.000 I definitely find the racial element of slavery a correlation because of where the slaves of this nation were taken from.

01:08:56.000 Like, If it had been, you know, a North African Carthaginian culture that had been taken Roman slaves, 200 years later, after they're freed, all the slaves would have been white guys and they would have been complaining for white people's rights because all the Carthaginians have dark skin and they have all the money. 0.55

01:09:12.000 So, like, it's just, it doesn't really matter. 0.64

01:09:14.000 It's just about, you know, it's more about who, it's less about what you look like.

01:09:19.000 The thing, too, is like the African slave traders didn't end slavery, the British ended slavery.

01:09:25.000 You know, like the entire narrative is backwards and wrong. 0.65

01:09:29.000 This thing is all a system of control because they have Black Lives Matter and replacement immigration in Ireland, which was literally a place that was oppressed for centuries by the English and had nothing to do with the slave trade or any of it. 0.69

01:09:43.000 But they use the same rhetoric in Ireland that they use in the United States. 0.87

01:09:47.000 You just have to step over this stuff.

01:09:49.000 It's baseless.

01:09:50.000 It's over.

01:09:51.000 Look, if we ever want to have a society, you got to not care about slavery.

01:09:54.000 We have to stop making slavery something we worship.

01:09:56.000 And it's the only thing.

01:09:57.000 When I was a teacher, I taught so many students, and the only two things they knew about America is that we invented slavery.

01:10:04.000 Yes, they all believe that.

01:10:05.000 That we invented slavery.

01:10:07.000 Of course.

01:10:07.000 But these people are fervent.

01:10:09.000 And what do you do when you have a fervent horde fighting for their zeal, like their ideology?

01:10:14.000 You get them to trip over their own feet.

01:10:16.000 Because they're charging ahead without looking.

01:10:18.000 They're fervor.

01:10:20.000 That's one way to do it.

01:10:21.000 I mean, I think one by one, you make internet videos explaining the real history of slavery in a charismatic way.

01:10:27.000 I mean, your solution to everything is make an internet video about it.

01:10:29.000 It's a powerful tech, dude.

01:10:30.000 Humans still don't understand how powerful it is to be.

01:10:33.000 I got to give you a little pushback on that one because today I'm flipping through Instagram.

01:10:37.000 I kid you not, every other video was someone going, This person tweeted in 2022, Corona ends 23, haunt a virus.

01:10:45.000 They were all saying the exact same things. 0.68

01:10:48.000 And I'm just thinking, Do these people have brains? 0.99

01:10:50.000 This is a horrible place to be. 1.00

01:10:52.000 This is awful.

01:10:53.000 I want to be a chicken farmer.

01:10:54.000 I'm a child of 2006 YouTube, where the people that were driving the global narrative were on YouTube.

01:10:54.000 I quit.

01:11:00.000 I don't know if that's still the case with AI and massive, massive misinformation.

01:11:05.000 And it's so easy now.

01:11:06.000 Everyone, it's so common relative to how it was 15 years, 20 years ago.

01:11:10.000 But the power of this technology is insane.

01:11:13.000 The way you can create mass formation with your ideas, anyone can.

01:11:17.000 So do it.

01:11:19.000 I mean, you can just make it fake too, you know?

01:11:20.000 What's that?

01:11:21.000 It's really easy to fake putting money into these systems to just promote.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, when Google bought YouTube, I made a video, it's still on my CrossMac channel, of losing my mind.

01:11:32.000 Because I wasn't that.

01:11:33.000 I was like, well, here we go the corporatization of internet video.

01:11:36.000 We had it for two years.

01:11:37.000 It was the free wild west from 2006 to 2008, but then people started getting paid.

01:11:42.000 Well, it's also the tyranny of algorithms.

01:11:44.000 Like eventually, there's just a maximal way to game the algorithm only one way, only one set of news stories, only one way to master the news cycle so that you stay on top.

01:11:54.000 And then everyone just converges on that strategy.

01:11:57.000 The best practices become the only thing that dictates what people cover.

01:12:00.000 My hypothesis is how to create the news by doing a more entertaining show than whatever's out there.

01:12:05.000 Well, I will say that actually we're reverting back to the fact that you will get more views doing news production.

01:12:13.000 There was a period where news production was waning because it was too easy to aggregate, but now aggregation is saturated and news production is going to come back.

01:12:20.000 Let's jump to this from YouGov.

01:12:22.000 How many Americans think they could beat Donald Trump in a fight?

01:12:25.000 Would you be surprised to find out that Republicans actually think they can't?

01:12:30.000 Check it out.

01:12:31.000 Who do you think would win in a physical fight between you and Trump?

01:12:34.000 Democrats, 75% said they would.

01:12:37.000 5% said Trump would.

01:12:39.000 33% of Republicans said they would, but 39% said Trump would.

01:12:43.000 What say you, Ian?

01:12:46.000 I don't want to say that I would beat up the president.

01:12:49.000 It's a sanction?

01:12:50.000 Oh, in a sanction fight?

01:12:50.000 I think.

01:12:51.000 Ain't no way.

01:12:52.000 I'd go for the legs, dude.

01:12:53.000 He's too top heavy. 0.99

01:12:55.000 I'd wrap him up like a snake, bro, and I'd get behind his neck. 0.83

01:12:58.000 I'd have to tie my hair back, though. 0.99

01:13:00.000 He.

01:13:01.000 I think Trump has an aura of weakness where he makes other people fall to their knees when they're around him.

01:13:05.000 People have said this, that they get in the room with him and they're just like stuck in awe of him.

01:13:09.000 But if you're able to overcome that, I think you could easily defeat the 80 year old.

01:13:12.000 So here's the thing.

01:13:14.000 He is 80.

01:13:15.000 I actually think Republicans are actually correct.

01:13:19.000 The 39% have said Trump would win.

01:13:22.000 You know why?

01:13:24.000 You need to consider, no.

01:13:24.000 Security.

01:13:26.000 You need to consider the people who are being asked will include small women. 0.98

01:13:31.000 The elderly and the infirm.

01:13:33.000 So, actually, seeing about 39% say, Yeah, Trump could probably beat me up.

01:13:37.000 There could be a 70 year old guy who's like, You know, he's old, we're old, but he's bigger than me.

01:13:41.000 Now, look at this one.

01:13:42.000 Who do you think would win in a fight between an eight year old boy and Trump?

01:13:45.000 Democrats, 54% said an eight year old boy.

01:13:48.000 I can't take polls seriously anymore.

01:13:50.000 I can't do it, dude.

01:13:52.000 50%?

01:13:53.000 50% of the.

01:13:55.000 54% of Democrats think an eight year old boy could beat up 240 pound, six foot three Donald Trump.

01:14:03.000 I think that's a big.

01:14:03.000 Are you really mean?

01:14:04.000 Donald Trump, they're trying to make a difference.

01:14:06.000 I'm sorry. 0.96

01:14:07.000 I know Trump's old, but he could still punch the kid in the face. 0.96

01:14:09.000 Yeah, right. 0.83

01:14:09.000 He also has the golf clubs, you know. 0.83

01:14:12.000 Well, Trump was in Home Alone 2, where he met Kevin McAllister.

01:14:16.000 So we could have had the showdown.

01:14:17.000 Like, you could have had, you know, McCulloch was about eight years old at the time.

01:14:21.000 We could have found out.

01:14:22.000 And Trump would have been in his prime at that time.

01:14:22.000 We could even.

01:14:24.000 They cut that sequence.

01:14:24.000 He is.

01:14:25.000 They cut that sequence.

01:14:26.000 Right.

01:14:27.000 Well, the thing is that, you know, Trump has strong sprawl defense.

01:14:31.000 So when the little kid goes for the takedown, you know, Trump's all over. 0.57

01:14:34.000 He's just going to put the hand and smash him.

01:14:35.000 Who are these 6% of Republicans that think Trump can't beat up an eight year old boy? 0.84

01:14:40.000 Do they not know, like, an eight year old boy weighs like 70 pounds?

01:14:42.000 Well, maybe they're thinking of their kid who, like, is eight, but has.

01:14:46.000 Been exposed to too much testosterone, and I don't know.

01:14:49.000 I mean, if the kid gets a good, like a hook in, like a really strong uppercut, Trump's not a fast guy.

01:14:55.000 I definitely don't think I could beat him.

01:14:56.000 But he's tall.

01:14:57.000 Little kids aren't uppercutting six foot three Donald Trump. 0.66

01:14:59.000 I'd have to go for the nuts.

01:15:00.000 Yeah, that's really the key there.

01:15:02.000 If he can get the nuts, strike in.

01:15:04.000 Like, how vicious is this fight?

01:15:05.000 Is this street fight level, or is this like MMA?

01:15:08.000 Is this gloves?

01:15:09.000 No gloves?

01:15:10.000 Can you grab crushed up ornaments under the windowsill?

01:15:13.000 Right, right.

01:15:14.000 Swinging paint cans, hot on the floor.

01:15:15.000 Okay, hold on.

01:15:16.000 If it is Kevin McAllister, Kevin McAllister.

01:15:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:20.000 100%.

01:15:20.000 Donald Trump slips on a banana peel and then, like, lands on a hot coal or something.

01:15:26.000 If he could take the wet bandits, he can certainly take that.

01:15:30.000 I once slipped on a banana peel, and my friends who I was walking with, like, just died laughing.

01:15:34.000 And I'm, like, on the ground trying to get up.

01:15:36.000 Were you next to, like, a marble factory?

01:15:38.000 Some comic comedy sketch? 0.99

01:15:40.000 No, it was just all the trash in New York City. 0.90

01:15:43.000 Did it slip forward and you went back? 0.68

01:15:44.000 See, this.

01:15:44.000 Yes, it was like cartoons.

01:15:46.000 So, look, look.

01:15:47.000 When I first read this.

01:15:48.000 They were like, you actually slipped on a banana peel.

01:15:48.000 I couldn't believe it.

01:15:50.000 When I first read this, I was like, what Republican thinks Trump Could beat them up.

01:15:52.000 That's insane.

01:15:53.000 Like, if there was a sanctioned MMA fight, Dana White and Trump came in, I'm 40, but I'm sorry.

01:15:59.000 He's got, you know, half a foot on me, but I could still win a fight against an 80 year old man.

01:16:04.000 I was like, you know, there's, if this is weighted for age and gender, there's going to be a bunch of women who are like, look, I weigh, I'm 5'2", 100 pounds.

01:16:04.000 And then I thought about it.

01:16:13.000 I ain't fighting Trump, you know?

01:16:15.000 He has a strong grip.

01:16:16.000 We all know that.

01:16:17.000 He likes to shake that hand really tight.

01:16:18.000 So if he gets in on you, unless you're over 130 pounds, and also there's veterans in wheelchairs that probably were like, not.

01:16:26.000 You also have to factor in, Trump might be old, but this is a man who literally took a bullet right next to the head and popped back up.

01:16:31.000 He's a scrappy guy.

01:16:33.000 He's right.

01:16:34.000 For 80, he's going to put up a fight at least.

01:16:35.000 But I do think this is.

01:16:39.000 You know, I posted that it's a slow news day, and then someone said, it's not that there's no news, it's that our tolerance has been built up to an extreme degree.

01:16:45.000 That's very true.

01:16:46.000 You know, because Jess, who works here, she was like, we're on the verge of civil war, World War III, the AI takeover, and an alien invasion, and there's no news today.

01:16:53.000 Like, dude, we're in the Iranian, the Hormuz, straight Hormuz.

01:16:56.000 If this was 2007, I'd be screaming my head off daily about it on the internet.

01:17:01.000 I'm so desensitized to this.

01:17:02.000 The entire global economy is just sitting there teetering on the edge of the abyss, and we're like, there's just no news.

01:17:08.000 It's been that way for the last like six years, though.

01:17:10.000 Yeah, well, that's the problem, right?

01:17:12.000 It's like, that's how you build the nothing ever happens mentality, right?

01:17:15.000 Because you just build, like I said, build up that sensitivity.

01:17:17.000 But it's every day.

01:17:18.000 It's like, the war is over.

01:17:19.000 Now we're bombing them. 0.85

01:17:20.000 Now the war is over. 0.98

01:17:21.000 Now we're bombing them. 0.95

01:17:22.000 Now they're mad, but it doesn't matter. 1.00

01:17:24.000 Now we're bombing them. 0.98

01:17:25.000 There's a virus.

01:17:26.000 What's the Even now, there's a virus. 0.72

01:17:28.000 Don't breathe around the rat. 0.51

01:17:29.000 The alien disclosure is coming.

01:17:30.000 Apparently, we've got more pastors that have said they were in these meetings.

01:17:33.000 That was so interesting.

01:17:34.000 They're coming on the show.

01:17:35.000 We're having them on.

01:17:36.000 Oh, when is that?

01:17:37.000 Next week.

01:17:37.000 I want to come on.

01:17:38.000 Come on.

01:17:38.000 I saw somebody.

01:17:39.000 We might do a culture war next Friday because there's so many.

01:17:42.000 Yeah.

01:17:42.000 And just like a sit down with three dudes who are like, we were in this meeting, it's happening.

01:17:46.000 Yeah.

01:17:47.000 And they were saying that this could destroy people's faith.

01:17:51.000 And I feel like it would have the reverse effect.

01:17:55.000 What if that happened? 0.98

01:17:56.000 Because Christians just think they're demons.

01:17:57.000 Christians could think they're demons or just think, oh, I guess we're the ones God chose.

01:18:03.000 So, like, now we believe in God even more.

01:18:05.000 I mean, C.S. Lewis wrote a space trilogy about God making all these different aliens across the solar system and them interacting.

01:18:11.000 So, I feel like that's pretty reasonable.

01:18:12.000 Well, on American Dad.

01:18:13.000 They just show up and they believe in Jesus Christ.

01:18:15.000 What if they show up as Jesus Christ?

01:18:17.000 What happened in some of the other stuff?

01:18:18.000 On the show American Dad, when they did this, there was an arc in American Dad about the rapture happening and Jesus comes back.

01:18:23.000 And then when he meets Roger the alien, he goes, ugh, one of my dad's side projects.

01:18:28.000 So, you know, I can make it work.

01:18:28.000 Yeah.

01:18:29.000 I think, what if they come, if the government comes as like a blue beam version of Jesus, and then the Christians are like, oh my God, Jesus is here. 0.93

01:18:38.000 And they're like, no, no, no, that's an alien pretending to be Jesus. 0.91

01:18:40.000 And then they're so.

01:18:42.000 Double side, like slipped up, and I wasn't even a double whammy.

01:18:45.000 They'll be like, Oh, the government's protecting me, and they don't want me to believe that this fake image is Jesus, so it is aliens.

01:18:51.000 Family Guy also had a joke about this where Jesus comes back, but he's short.

01:18:55.000 And he says, As most of you are aware, humans were much shorter back then, and everyone's like, He's a little bit shorter.

01:19:01.000 You don't actually look like Max von Seidau.

01:19:03.000 Yeah.

01:19:03.000 And like, Geez, I kind of wish I never met you after that.

01:19:06.000 They're like, questioning this whole Jesus thing.

01:19:06.000 They're kind of disappointed.

01:19:10.000 Like, if he's like four foot two or something.

01:19:13.000 I don't think the second coming would be an alien invasion.

01:19:16.000 What do you think it would be?

01:19:17.000 That would be it.

01:19:19.000 You know, I think it would be some scrappy, poor kid who's like, give everything away and follow me and let's go save some souls.

01:19:28.000 I think, I'll tell you what I think, even though you didn't ask.

01:19:30.000 It's going to be a critical mass of people that start to live like Christ that embody the virtue.

01:19:37.000 And then once enough people do it, it's like overnight, humanity just changes.

01:19:42.000 That would be cool if everyone embodied those values, but I don't think we're verging on that.

01:19:48.000 I don't think we're verging on that.

01:19:49.000 I think right now, the values we have is people sitting there being like, I could take them.

01:19:53.000 And being entitled and being entitled to like anything that anybody else has.

01:19:57.000 It's like spirituality is kind of boring.

01:19:59.000 Like, you ever just sit and meditate for four hours or 20 minutes?

01:20:02.000 That's God.

01:20:03.000 Like, that's it.

01:20:04.000 They're going to be like, Yeah, don't you ever hear about those yogis that just their whole lives, all they ever did was meditate and do nothing?

01:20:08.000 Yeah, I've watched Buddha Boy.

01:20:09.000 And they're like 200 years old.

01:20:10.000 You've got to watch Buddha Boy.

01:20:11.000 He sits under a tree for like.

01:20:12.000 You just sit on like the top of a really tall column.

01:20:14.000 I met some higher Christian dudes and they were like, there are monks.

01:20:17.000 They sit on top of mountains.

01:20:18.000 All they do all day is meditate, and he's like 160.

01:20:22.000 And I'm like, when I was like 18, when I met this guy, I was like, I don't believe that.

01:20:25.000 That's crazy.

01:20:26.000 Then when I got older, I read about caloric deprivation.

01:20:28.000 And I was like, oh, yeah, actually, if you're not doing anything and all you're doing is sitting every single day, doing minimal caloric intake and exercise, we do see a 70% lifespan increase.

01:20:39.000 I think your brain activates neurogenesis while you're meditating, too.

01:20:42.000 I was just told that yesterday.

01:20:43.000 I haven't really studied the science behind it, but when you allow your thoughts to rest, it's when your body can regenerate.

01:20:49.000 If the key barrier to achieving a transcendent understanding of the universe is that you get bored, then you probably don't deserve to achieve a transcendent understanding of the universe.

01:20:58.000 Like, it might take some work.

01:21:00.000 It might require you to do something unpleasant.

01:21:02.000 In fact, that's the entire point of religion, I think, and spirituality in a broader sense.

01:21:07.000 If it's not depriving you of something, then what does it matter?

01:21:10.000 If it costs you nothing, then it's useless.

01:21:12.000 Yeah, a lot of it is actually, I think, is acts like making the world better for the people to come after.

01:21:19.000 But I mean, that's like the most godlike thing you can do is enhance.

01:21:23.000 The human pick up your cross and follow me is literally the meditation so powerful because it lets your emotions go away.

01:21:31.000 You can have thoughts without emotion, and then but it's so boring.

01:21:34.000 I mean, it's kind of nice once you get into it.

01:21:36.000 It's like really relaxing, really.

01:21:38.000 Like, it feels really good.

01:21:39.000 But compared to like going bowling, you know, like stimulation, watching things fall, making noise, TV, electricity.

01:21:47.000 And how do you wrestle humans away from that and to willingly go back to nature?

01:21:54.000 What do you do to do it?

01:21:55.000 I mean, I go to church, I pray, I read the Bible.

01:21:59.000 How do you pray?

01:22:00.000 I mean, in different ways, I suppose.

01:22:02.000 You know, sometimes it's alone, sometimes it's corporate, sometimes it's in a quiet place, sometimes it's in nature.

01:22:08.000 Really just depends.

01:22:09.000 I used to be like, please, God, give me thing, bring me patience.

01:22:14.000 Now I'm like, thank you for giving me patience.

01:22:16.000 Yeah, you absolutely need to carve out a moment of thankfulness and then supplication for others.

01:22:23.000 You know, that's key.

01:22:24.000 I mean, you know, the Lord's Prayer, the one that Jesus put together, is pretty good about this.

01:22:28.000 It's, hey, you know, please don't lead us into temptation.

01:22:30.000 Please help us to forgive other people.

01:22:32.000 Please help others.

01:22:34.000 You know, we appreciate what you've given us.

01:22:36.000 Here's our gratefulness.

01:22:38.000 You know, all the hits are there.

01:22:39.000 It's not really a, it's a pretty good roadmap.

01:22:41.000 But as opposed to like, Please bring these people what they need, saying thank you for bringing these people what they need before they even have it.

01:22:48.000 And then, because you're glad that they have it, even though they don't yet, they get it.

01:22:53.000 It's like a manifestation trick.

01:22:53.000 Does that make sense?

01:22:55.000 Like you believe it's real and then it becomes real.

01:22:57.000 Yeah, this is kind of a, again, this hyperstition, which is, you know, there's some truth to that, but I don't think that's like a trick that works with God.

01:23:04.000 I think God does what he wants.

01:23:07.000 And, you know, you communing with him is the purpose of prayer.

01:23:10.000 Let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail.

01:23:12.000 Secret Pentagon UFO briefing today.

01:23:15.000 As Washington Insider warns, full truth will still be hidden.

01:23:19.000 Tim Burchett said that he had a private UFO briefing from the Pentagon.

01:23:23.000 He said, Oddly enough, I got a call that tomorrow at 3 p.m., I'm going to be briefed over the phone.

01:23:27.000 The Secretary of War's top dogs will go over stuff.

01:23:30.000 Burchett's comments came as anticipation continues to build around the president and his effort to declassify federal UFO files.

01:23:36.000 However, he added, I don't want everybody to get their hopes up.

01:23:38.000 I don't have a lot of faith in our government.

01:23:40.000 This thing's been covered up at least since 1947.

01:23:42.000 Now, interestingly, we have all these pastors coming out saying they've been briefed by government officials to prepare their congregations.

01:23:48.000 That there will be alien disclosure.

01:23:50.000 So, what do you think?

01:23:51.000 Aliens, demons?

01:23:53.000 I don't know if you've seen that meme, but it's the aliens show up and they're doing crazy stuff.

01:23:53.000 I don't know, man.

01:23:57.000 And, you know, some guy's like, oh, cool.

01:23:59.000 And they're like, really?

01:24:00.000 And he's like, I've been having a hard time, man.

01:24:00.000 That's all you got?

01:24:04.000 I feel like that's my response every time I get the alien thing.

01:24:07.000 I feel like every six months to a year, we hear, oh, new disclosure that aliens are 100% going to be real.

01:24:12.000 And then we're like, that's the conspiracy theory that they couldn't just come out and say aliens are real.

01:24:18.000 So they trickle it out slowly.

01:24:19.000 So we're bored.

01:24:20.000 And by the time aliens come, we go, huh?

01:24:22.000 Entirely possible.

01:24:24.000 If that's a strategy, man, it is working.

01:24:26.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:24:27.000 I got to be honest.

01:24:28.000 I honestly think that if today, maybe today was a slow news day, but Donald Trump, what he's going to do is aliens are going to land on the White House lawn, and then everyone's going to be going, aliens, oh my God. 0.99

01:24:39.000 And then Donald Trump's going to tweet out something like, the Democrats are a bunch of fat pigs who should be charged with treason. 0.97

01:24:46.000 And then everyone's going to go, wait right here to the aliens, and they're going to run over to try and cover Trump. 0.99

01:24:51.000 I don't think people are going to care that much about the aliens.

01:24:53.000 I mean, especially if they're not actually showing up.

01:24:56.000 If it's just like there were some spaceships, there's some, you know, maybe we found some wreckage.

01:25:03.000 Ian looks so devastated.

01:25:05.000 I just don't think.

01:25:08.000 I think you're going to care.

01:25:09.000 I think I'm going to find it very intriguing.

01:25:12.000 But I think the general population is going to be like, okay.

01:25:16.000 I am not going to miss that church service after they debrief the pastors for sure.

01:25:21.000 True.

01:25:21.000 I can't believe it.

01:25:22.000 It's a big one.

01:25:23.000 There's no aliens.

01:25:24.000 No aliens are coming, guys.

01:25:25.000 It's not real.

01:25:26.000 This is all fake.

01:25:29.000 The Area 51 stuff was drone tech.

01:25:31.000 They raided Tesla's laboratory.

01:25:33.000 This is really concerning if anyone even remotely thinks there's anything to this.

01:25:39.000 This is, look, I'm on the side of the U.S. government.

01:25:41.000 We don't need to trick people to control the world.

01:25:43.000 We can do it through virtue, I believe.

01:25:46.000 I think we can.

01:25:49.000 Or there are aliens.

01:25:51.000 There are aliens.

01:25:52.000 They're not coming here right now, but they're already here.

01:25:54.000 They're in us.

01:25:55.000 It's a high frequency consciousness.

01:25:57.000 They're spirits.

01:25:58.000 What?

01:25:59.000 You think they're in us?

01:26:01.000 I asked them, where are you?

01:26:01.000 That's what you think.

01:26:02.000 They said in.

01:26:03.000 I was like, what technology do they have?

01:26:04.000 What?

01:26:05.000 What technology?

01:26:07.000 They're moving really fast.

01:26:09.000 They, they, I think that they can condense matter or matter is condensing at that speed.

01:26:19.000 What do you mean?

01:26:20.000 I don't know enough yet.

01:26:20.000 I got to go visit them more.

01:26:23.000 Now, there is a theory that a lot of these pastors believe the government is lying, telling them to prepare for this because they want to break faith in Christianity.

01:26:31.000 They go to pastors and say, look, aliens are real.

01:26:33.000 You're going to disclose it.

01:26:34.000 Your congregation needs to be taught about it.

01:26:35.000 And these guys are like, is the government trying to convince us to abandon our faith?

01:26:39.000 To trick us, you know?

01:26:40.000 Yeah, yeah, that might be the case.

01:26:42.000 That might be the case.

01:26:43.000 I brought it up the other night, and this is something my friends are like, oh, look at Ian disrespecting Christians.

01:26:47.000 I said, look, if someone's willing to believe something without proof, because I look at earth religions as like evidential, a lot of them are based on like text that you don't have a lot of like, you know, a piece of text that's self referential text.

01:26:59.000 So if someone's willing to believe something without proof, they might be willing to believe something else without proof, like aliens are here.

01:27:05.000 So I don't want these people to be led astray because Christianity has wonderful values and morals that you need to abide by or you can.

01:27:12.000 Can improve your life by abiding by, but that doesn't mean you have to believe that every fact in the book actually is real.

01:27:17.000 But the mistake that you're making is the presumption that because someone has a lifetime of experiences which leads them to belief, that a single experience at one time would change or give them a new belief.

01:27:29.000 You said there are people who can believe things on evidence.

01:27:31.000 I'd be worried they would believe in aliens.

01:27:33.000 You're talking about a person who has lived their whole life in accordance with a worldview which leads them to believe something strongly versus that same person then seeing aliens land and believing instantly that, well, you know, like my whole worldview is wrong.

01:27:45.000 I'll just believe that now.

01:27:47.000 I mean, we hold on to our epistemologies pretty tightly.

01:27:51.000 So, for instance, when it came to public health, we literally watched like every major organization in the United States and the wider world lie to us on a regular basis from positions of authority.

01:28:03.000 And despite that, a couple of years later, everybody basically just went back to believing what those people said on a regular basis.

01:28:10.000 So, I think it's fair to say that once people are in that rut, it's pretty hard to break.

01:28:13.000 There are more people who don't believe the government than ever before, I think, because of the actions during COVID.

01:28:18.000 But it's still not everyone.

01:28:20.000 I think to counter your point, Ian, people who believe in, like Christians, they're not going to believe they're aliens. 0.86

01:28:25.000 They're going to believe they're demons.

01:28:28.000 But I think that they might actually come as Jesus.

01:28:28.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:28:30.000 Like they might try and make people think Jesus is here and then be like, no, no, no, that's aliens trying to trick you.

01:28:35.000 That might be.

01:28:35.000 And then they'll be like, oh, thank you for telling me the truth.

01:28:38.000 Christians will not go, oh, you were right. 0.93

01:28:39.000 Jesus came back, but he's actually an alien. 0.90

01:28:41.000 Now I don't have faith anymore.

01:28:42.000 No, the aliens are tricking me.

01:28:43.000 But wait, if there's aliens, then how can the Bible be true?

01:28:47.000 It's not going to be the thing.

01:28:48.000 Because the Bible.

01:28:49.000 Exclusive, they're not banned by the Bible.

01:28:52.000 There's nothing about that.

01:28:53.000 It's just that men are made in God's image.

01:28:55.000 So if an alien comes and it's not human, a demon image doesn't mean like his literal physical image.

01:29:00.000 They don't mean that like God has two physical arms and legs in the same way that a human does, though obviously Jesus did when incarnated in that way.

01:29:08.000 But what does it mean exactly?

01:29:10.000 I mean, that you have the ability to see what God sees, to understand, or not exactly see what God sees, but to experience free will, to understand the world in a way that no other being.

01:29:22.000 In the world, does I mean, I guess there are people who could argue that yes, they did mean in a little physical, you know, incarnation way, but I think most people understand it as more of a spiritual image of God and not a like actual physical resemblance to God. 0.75

01:29:36.000 The other reason I believe that they are potentially targeting Christians, like you mentioned earlier, Tim, is that if you can break America's founding religion as much as it's taken, especially for the last 40 years with the internet getting sloshed by the globe, but like if you can break people away from that. 0.71

01:29:55.000 In question, that they'd toss the morals aside. 0.67

01:29:57.000 And if they toss the morals of Christianity aside, I feel like we've lost.

01:30:01.000 If you lose the ability to have like patience for your enemy, you can destroy your enemy without hating him.

01:30:08.000 When you hate, you get blinded, you get lazy, you get diffused.

01:30:13.000 You need to maintain these virtues to win a war in a lot of ways.

01:30:18.000 You're right.

01:30:18.000 What we need is a great flood that just, you know, over the whole planet.

01:30:22.000 No, he promised no more water.

01:30:23.000 You have to use fire this time.

01:30:25.000 All right.

01:30:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:30:26.000 You didn't know that that wouldn't be God because he promised.

01:30:28.000 You got a rainbow out of it and everything.

01:30:30.000 Yeah, but the rainbow's been subverted.

01:30:32.000 So that's why the fire comes next. 1.00

01:30:36.000 You know, I say this to Christians when they're like, you know, they're using the rainbow flag. 1.00

01:30:41.000 And I'm like, why would you let them? 1.00

01:30:42.000 Like, Christians should all start using the rainbow again. 1.00

01:30:46.000 And then all these progress pride people are going to be pissed off.

01:30:50.000 So they said that it's a fire.

01:30:53.000 Is that supposed to happen in the Bible?

01:30:54.000 They say a great fire is.

01:30:55.000 I mean, I'm making a joke, but there was literally a promise that God would never flood the world again.

01:30:59.000 And that's why the rainbow appeared in the.

01:31:01.000 In the store.

01:31:02.000 God's covenant.

01:31:03.000 So, if he can't technically use water, then, well, there are other options.

01:31:08.000 And fire is one he's using.

01:31:09.000 He could use liquid methane.

01:31:10.000 It's very true.

01:31:11.000 I mean, superheated gas, which is fluid, but it's not water.

01:31:16.000 Liquid methane?

01:31:17.000 Yeah.

01:31:18.000 Liquid methane would be liquid methane.

01:31:19.000 You mean like an endless techno?

01:31:21.000 That would technically be the flood if it was liquid, I think.

01:31:25.000 You can flood a system with gas as well, so it wouldn't be a gaseous attack or a conundrum.

01:31:31.000 Volcanic ash.

01:31:34.000 There's so many ways to destroy things.

01:31:35.000 And I think the flood was preempted by firestorm.

01:31:38.000 Aren't there a bunch of plagues also?

01:31:40.000 That was with them.

01:31:41.000 Yeah, that was Moses.

01:31:42.000 He brought them to Pharaoh.

01:31:45.000 But they didn't like wipe everybody out.

01:31:46.000 I mean, well, the firstborn sons didn't do so well.

01:31:48.000 That was a pretty big deal.

01:31:49.000 Yeah.

01:31:50.000 Did the Christians actually have a rainbow as their symbol for a while? 1.00

01:31:52.000 Well, the fish, I think, was the most famous one. 0.88

01:31:55.000 You're completing the fish to signal that you are a Christian.

01:31:59.000 You know, the fish that you see people drive around with a car on. 0.94

01:32:02.000 I think the original story is that they would draw half the fish in the sea.

01:32:05.000 You know, in like sand, and they draw the other half, and that's how you would identify.

01:32:09.000 I don't know if that's apocryphal at some level, but yeah.

01:32:12.000 It's because they were hunted down.

01:32:13.000 So, in order to secretly show someone you were a Christian, you draw like a curve, and they'd be like, Yeah, that's pretty cool.

01:32:21.000 I feel for you guys.

01:32:22.000 I don't know who I'm talking to right now, you Christians out there, you lovers of God. 1.00

01:32:26.000 I don't know, dude.

01:32:26.000 I love God.

01:32:28.000 I love.

01:32:30.000 Uh huh.

01:32:30.000 I think it's redundant to say God in that sentence.

01:32:32.000 I love.

01:32:33.000 I am.

01:32:34.000 No, that's what God says.

01:32:36.000 You guys are God, and so are you.

01:32:36.000 No, that's what God says.

01:32:39.000 You guys have seen the story that like all these concerts aren't selling tickets anymore.

01:32:42.000 Yeah, that was interesting.

01:32:44.000 I think everyone's bored. 0.87

01:32:45.000 I think their brains are fried.

01:32:46.000 I think they're overstimulated from AI and the internet.

01:32:50.000 And it's literally like if someone just.

01:32:53.000 You ever have like.

01:32:55.000 You eat like a bowl of ice cream.

01:32:58.000 And then after you do, you like go to take a sip of like a Coke or something.

01:33:01.000 It doesn't taste sweet because you just.

01:33:03.000 Yes.

01:33:03.000 Or like the other way around or something.

01:33:05.000 Like you've stimulated the sweet so much, you don't really taste it.

01:33:08.000 I think that's where we're at right now.

01:33:09.000 Like.

01:33:09.000 Culturally, we were definitely overstimulated.

01:33:11.000 Although, you know, it was a good concert.

01:33:12.000 It was Phil's concert.

01:33:13.000 I saw him in Philly with Lisa, and we had a great time.

01:33:16.000 Phil in Philly?

01:33:17.000 It was really good.

01:33:17.000 Yeah.

01:33:18.000 He had a great show.

01:33:19.000 We saw Phil's show in Baltimore.

01:33:20.000 Killer show. 1.00

01:33:21.000 Lisa crowdsurfed. 1.00

01:33:22.000 She did. 0.99

01:33:23.000 Yeah.

01:33:23.000 And she's like 80.

01:33:25.000 I saw Charles crowdsurfing too.

01:33:27.000 Hi, Lisa.

01:33:28.000 She's loose.

01:33:28.000 She's going to text me.

01:33:29.000 No.

01:33:30.000 Lisa's not quite 80.

01:33:32.000 Nowhere close.

01:33:32.000 No.

01:33:34.000 Yeah, man.

01:33:35.000 Phil's doing it.

01:33:35.000 Make art.

01:33:36.000 He's living the solution right now.

01:33:38.000 He's touring with his band.

01:33:40.000 It was like, oh, I'm going to go see my friend play a rock show.

01:33:42.000 That's awesome.

01:33:43.000 We keep making this AI music, but I think.

01:33:45.000 And we had drunk pizza after.

01:33:47.000 It was great.

01:33:48.000 That's another fun.

01:33:49.000 So we got redistricting stories.

01:33:51.000 Let's just do this story right here.

01:33:52.000 I saw this viral post.

01:33:53.000 The thing with concerts.

01:33:54.000 I'd be happy to go to concerts if it was fun.

01:33:57.000 So, we've got this viral post red states versus blue states, where the money went.

01:34:03.000 It's actually very fascinating.

01:34:04.000 Red states are bringing in trillions, and blue states are dumping trillions.

01:34:09.000 It's almost one for one.

01:34:11.000 It's 160 billion from New York, is what it looks like.

01:34:14.000 Yeah.

01:34:15.000 And now, was that group like Apollo or whatever, big wealth management or whatever, said they're leaving?

01:34:20.000 Citadel?

01:34:20.000 Citadel.

01:34:21.000 Yeah.

01:34:22.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:34:22.000 Ken Griffin said he's actually leaving now?

01:34:23.000 Well, he said he's doubling down on his whole Miami thing.

01:34:26.000 So, we'll have to see if he actually leaves.

01:34:28.000 Wow.

01:34:29.000 It's wild.

01:34:29.000 I mean, could you imagine the mayor goes to your house and starts saying that you don't deserve to have your house?

01:34:35.000 Why would you want to stay in that stupid town? 1.00

01:34:37.000 Not only that, but it's an investment property that funds a bunch of jobs and a building. 1.00

01:34:41.000 And he had a $6 billion project going into Manhattan, and now he's like, maybe not.

01:34:46.000 Maybe we'll just move.

01:34:47.000 $6 billion?

01:34:48.000 $6 billion.

01:34:49.000 Yeah.

01:34:49.000 Wow.

01:34:50.000 So what do we do when all these states collapse and all the red states are all nice about it?

01:34:54.000 We put up walls.

01:34:56.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:34:57.000 You need border control, but for blue states.

01:34:59.000 Yes, we need border control.

01:35:01.000 Remember when they were doing border checkpoints during COVID?

01:35:01.000 We need walls.

01:35:04.000 Yeah.

01:35:05.000 People were trying to flee New York, so Connecticut set up barriers.

01:35:08.000 And they were like IDing people.

01:35:10.000 Well, they should have just gone to Jersey.

01:35:11.000 Jersey didn't have any walls up.

01:35:13.000 No, but Jersey is a peninsula.

01:35:14.000 Yeah.

01:35:15.000 So you get stuck.

01:35:16.000 That's why we left, one of the reasons.

01:35:17.000 You left Jersey because it was a peninsula?

01:35:19.000 We were buying the property in the castle.

01:35:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:22.000 And we decided to leave before it was done already because we were like, they were talking about shutting the bridges down.

01:35:27.000 And I was like, if they shut them down and we were trapped on this peninsula, it'd be terrifying.

01:35:30.000 We should leave now and go inland.

01:35:32.000 And even so, where could you go?

01:35:34.000 Delaware, New York, or Pennsylvania?

01:35:36.000 I was banking on Texas.

01:35:37.000 Oh, no, if you're in Jersey, you can't go anywhere.

01:35:38.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:35:39.000 Yeah, because you can go up.

01:35:39.000 It's a peninsula.

01:35:41.000 Right, but the bridges.

01:35:42.000 I'm saying just the bridges.

01:35:43.000 Yeah, you're trapped.

01:35:44.000 You could go to New York, Pennsylvania, or Delaware.

01:35:46.000 Not great.

01:35:47.000 That's why you need the escape yacht, you know, like a Bond villain.

01:35:51.000 I don't mind an escape yacht.

01:35:51.000 Like a Bond villain.

01:35:53.000 That sounds fun.

01:35:54.000 As long as there's no other people on it and no rats.

01:35:58.000 Yeah, you don't want to get Honda virus.

01:36:00.000 I was thinking about something else.

01:36:02.000 It's off topic.

01:36:04.000 I'll keep going on topic too.

01:36:04.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:36:06.000 I've just been practicing how to gather electricity from storm clouds, but we could talk about that at a different time.

01:36:11.000 Oh, Franklin.

01:36:12.000 There's a thing here too.

01:36:14.000 It's like in West Virginia, because I was looking at West Virginia, because here we are, you know, in West Virginia.

01:36:19.000 West Virginia had a 19% increase in population last year, but it doesn't look like they moved.

01:36:24.000 Yeah, but only in the Eastern Panhandle.

01:36:26.000 Right. 0.99

01:36:27.000 It's all the libs fleeing their failed policies. 0.58

01:36:29.000 Yeah, we have to make sure they don't vote.

01:36:33.000 I don't know, man.

01:36:34.000 You know, do we like build a wall?

01:36:36.000 No, we just play music, man.

01:36:37.000 That's the wall.

01:36:38.000 The wall is in your soul, dude.

01:36:40.000 We create a buffer of.

01:36:41.000 That's right.

01:36:43.000 I'm telling you, we don't need physical walls.

01:36:44.000 We do need physical walls.

01:36:45.000 That's why we have houses.

01:36:47.000 But in addition to physical walls, you need mental things that make people not want to do it.

01:36:53.000 Well, I don't want the libs coming in here and voting out the representatives that we have.

01:36:59.000 I like the representatives we have.

01:37:00.000 This is the eternal problem of capital flight, though, right? 1.00

01:37:02.000 It's like everyone's like, haha, stupid libs. 1.00

01:37:04.000 You passed all these policies, you made your place unlivable. 1.00

01:37:08.000 Then they move, and you're like, oh, look, our ideas are better.

01:37:10.000 I need the garlic and the crust.

01:37:13.000 Yeah, they just bring their ideas with them and they just go through the same cycle over and over again.

01:37:17.000 I think you should have to live in a state for three years before you can vote.

01:37:20.000 I'd put that much, much higher.

01:37:23.000 And spend $100.

01:37:25.000 But that's actually really not a bad idea.

01:37:27.000 Because, I mean, it's voting now.

01:37:29.000 Voting should cost money.

01:37:29.000 I've been in the state for years.

01:37:31.000 That's called a poll tax.

01:37:32.000 Unfortunately, that's unconstitutional.

01:37:33.000 You're not allowed to.

01:37:36.000 No.

01:37:37.000 It's actually just you got to put money in.

01:37:40.000 Oh, you got to, like, put money on it.

01:37:42.000 Wait, you got to cover it in a different way.

01:37:43.000 You want to, like, gamble it.

01:37:46.000 No, but this one is totally cool.

01:37:47.000 Completely constitutional.

01:37:48.000 If we charged money to vote, the game would be so different.

01:37:51.000 Like, Democrats are never won again.

01:37:53.000 That is not legal.

01:37:54.000 I mean, I support it.

01:37:55.000 I'm just saying we'd have to change the Constitution.

01:37:57.000 Okay, wait.

01:37:58.000 You don't have to pay to vote, but you have to provide a donation that is also mandatory.

01:38:06.000 Stay with me here.

01:38:07.000 Stay with me. 0.96

01:38:08.000 Service guarantees citizenship. 0.82

01:38:12.000 I don't mind that.

01:38:13.000 I waited tables.

01:38:15.000 But that's how people can get citizenship if they're non citizens and then they join the military, that kind of thing.

01:38:21.000 So this is actually what a classically like a.

01:38:23.000 A republic was supposed to look like.

01:38:25.000 Like, if you were willing to defend the country, you were allowed to vote.

01:38:29.000 That's the classic definition of an actual republic.

01:38:32.000 That's how we had so many Irishmen in the Civil War. 0.98

01:38:34.000 Well, as a Southerner whose family was shot by those Irishmen, I have mixed feelings about Lincoln importing a bunch of immigrants to murder our Americans, but you know, feel how you feel about that. 0.99

01:38:46.000 Service guaranteed citizenship might lead towards a lot of illegal immigrants joining the military. 0.95

01:38:46.000 Right. 0.95

01:38:51.000 Well, so to be clear, in the classical Republican sense, service guaranteed citizenship means when citizens serve.

01:38:58.000 They then are elevated to the point where they can vote.

01:39:01.000 So, for instance, in the Roman military, when it was a republic, it was voluntary.

01:39:05.000 In fact, not only was it voluntary, you had to pay for your own equipment.

01:39:08.000 There was no wages for being a soldier.

01:39:11.000 And that's where we get equestrian class.

01:39:13.000 They were the people who were wealthy enough to buy horses.

01:39:16.000 That's why we got the word knight out of it.

01:39:18.000 And that worked its way into English, because literally you had to purchase your way into fighting in the military.

01:39:24.000 And that's what proved you to be worthy of elevation, going through the cursus honorum, like ultimately elevating and taking political office.

01:39:32.000 That's the classic understanding.

01:39:34.000 Machiavelli had the same understanding.

01:39:36.000 He said all republics need to have their own citizen soldiers.

01:39:39.000 They shouldn't have any other standing armies or any of these other people get hired.

01:39:46.000 That's where it should come from. 0.99

01:39:47.000 So you don't want to bring in a bunch of outsiders because that's also how Rome fell. 1.00

01:39:50.000 They started paying a bunch of immigrants to be in the military. 0.95

01:39:53.000 And it turned out that actually, if you hire your entire military from a bunch of Gauls who were moving in, they don't actually care about Rome. 0.76

01:40:00.000 And was that just a phenomenon that? 0.82

01:40:03.000 Inevitable because they overexpanded?

01:40:05.000 And because their birth rates fell and they let a lot of people come in to fill in the.

01:40:05.000 Yes.

01:40:10.000 If this sounds familiar, let me know.

01:40:12.000 I think I've read this story.

01:40:14.000 We might be going through something similar right now.

01:40:17.000 Have we overexpanded?

01:40:19.000 If the power goes out, we've overexpanded.

01:40:21.000 If we have electricity, we seem to have not.

01:40:24.000 I am concerned about a power outage. 0.94

01:40:25.000 Well, but that's because people are doing stupid things with their power and trying to convert their entire grids to solar and renewables, which is not effective. 0.74

01:40:32.000 By the way, have you heard that all these data centers, they're like cutting. 0.90

01:40:34.000 They're like done, not done, but they're like, we're going to stop putting data centers on Earth.

01:40:38.000 We're going to start putting them in orbit because it's that's the plan.

01:40:41.000 Really?

01:40:41.000 Yeah.

01:40:42.000 Where they're going to start putting them on people's homes.

01:40:44.000 Yeah.

01:40:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:45.000 I don't want that. 1.00

01:40:46.000 Stay the fuck away from me. 0.99

01:40:47.000 Excuse me. 1.00

01:40:48.000 Well, stay away from me.

01:40:49.000 What if you got paid 80 bucks a month to host one?

01:40:52.000 150 bucks a month.

01:40:52.000 No.

01:40:54.000 What if it's $1,000 a month?

01:40:55.000 No.

01:40:55.000 Really?

01:40:56.000 No.

01:40:57.000 Keep your data center away from me and its noisiness and whatever else.

01:41:00.000 What if it's silent?

01:41:01.000 No, there's talk now of putting mini data servers on everyone's home.

01:41:05.000 Yeah.

01:41:06.000 Yeah.

01:41:06.000 Like a Tesla battery, a wall battery.

01:41:08.000 If it was just in your garage and you just.

01:41:09.000 And then it just spies on everything you do.

01:41:10.000 It knows when the lights are turned on.

01:41:12.000 It knows how much power you're consuming.

01:41:13.000 No chance.

01:41:14.000 It can use a Wi Fi signal to actually see you in your home.

01:41:18.000 That might be how, instead of UBI straight up, it might be the AI companies that pay people to host their servers.

01:41:22.000 It's like the average American home has 20 internet connected devices.

01:41:28.000 Yeah, that sounds right.

01:41:29.000 Especially as you start turning every appliance into a smart device.

01:41:31.000 Yeah, like our toaster.

01:41:32.000 I have nine.

01:41:33.000 I have nine internet connected devices.

01:41:35.000 Oh, wow.

01:41:36.000 Washers, dryers, microphones.

01:41:37.000 I don't have those.

01:41:38.000 When I went to buy my washer dryer, they were like, and this one is smart and it tells you when you need detergent. 0.99

01:41:43.000 And I was like, I will pay you extra for the dumb one. 0.99

01:41:46.000 Give me the dumb one. 1.00

01:41:46.000 Right. 1.00

01:41:47.000 Yeah.

01:41:48.000 I don't want the fridge talking.

01:41:49.000 I don't want the washer dryer talking.

01:41:50.000 I want a toaster that you pop down.

01:41:53.000 I want a car that doesn't shut itself off when the government wants to kill me.

01:41:56.000 None of it.

01:41:56.000 None of this.

01:41:57.000 These switches are crazy.

01:41:58.000 I don't want any of that.

01:41:59.000 How is it possibly reasonable to have that in your car?

01:42:02.000 That's so crazy.

01:42:03.000 Between that and everything being electric cars.

01:42:05.000 We literally talked about this a year or two ago.

01:42:08.000 That they were going to be able to commandeer your vehicle.

01:42:08.000 I hate it.

01:42:10.000 They're doing it in the UK.

01:42:11.000 They're charging people extra tax based on how much they drive in their electric cars now that they are outlawing entirely gas cars.

01:42:20.000 How is this possible?

01:42:21.000 Like, why would you ever buy a car in the UK?

01:42:23.000 I mean, not that like.

01:42:25.000 The rest of the UK, even if you don't have a car, you have some kind of civil liberties, which you don't absolutely out of control.

01:42:30.000 I mean, eventually they'll charge you for driving a car that you can actually drive.

01:42:35.000 Like, they'll charge you a premium because you're endangering everyone because you're not letting AI be a safe driver.

01:42:39.000 That's what you have to do.

01:42:41.000 Or just insurance is going to go up.

01:42:42.000 They're going to say, listen, there's very few insured drivers these days.

01:42:42.000 Yep.

01:42:45.000 Your insurance rate's going to be $3,000 per month.

01:42:49.000 Of course, you're allowed to drive your own car.

01:42:50.000 It's a wealthy luxury to be able to drive your own vehicle.

01:42:53.000 What hell they are turning everything into that's what's good.

01:42:56.000 What could be better than that?

01:42:58.000 A technocracy, what could be better than a technocracy that we're everything literally anarchy would be better than a technocracy?

01:43:03.000 I don't know, no rule, no rule, no, would you rather live in a communist dictatorship or a technocracy?

01:43:09.000 Oh, god, you said the same thing twice.

01:43:12.000 I know, no, no, no, I mean, like, I mean, like an industrial revolution era Soviet communist dictatorship or a modern era technocracy. 0.92

01:43:20.000 What about like, I'd say technocracy easy, yeah, what about, yeah, I mean, what about like, as long as my communism is gay space and luxury, it's fine, yeah, what gay space and luxury. 0.90

01:43:31.000 Sounds terrible. 0.90

01:43:32.000 A space and luxury.

01:43:33.000 A space luxury communism.

01:43:34.000 It's a joke of the future.

01:43:36.000 And then I spend like two days being like, oh my goodness, is everything in the entire world going straight to hell?

01:43:41.000 No, no, it's just going towards a technocracy.

01:43:43.000 Hell, yes.

01:43:44.000 But not if we do it right, because what's happening is Elon, you can have a corporate government that is done like the American government, but we need to architect.

01:43:51.000 We were doing this with Mines.

01:43:52.000 The next thing you know, they're just selling you the air you breathe.

01:43:55.000 I worked with Mines, I started a company.

01:43:57.000 It's a social network called Mines, where we developed through all of U.S. law, basically what would it be like to govern yourself on a social network.

01:44:04.000 So the people.

01:44:06.000 If something gets reported, it goes to a jury of people that volunteer for a jury, and then they can say, Yes, that violates the law.

01:44:13.000 And then if their account gets it wrong, then they get deprioritized in their juror capabilities, and people will sort of self police the network.

01:44:20.000 If we can create a system like that, that's a corporation where people can get paid for using it, it's righteous, it involves the U.S. Constitution as its basis, then we can preempt the global economic corporate government.

01:44:33.000 We already have the U.S. Constitution where we're all represented.

01:44:37.000 You know, we can all vote for representatives, and ideally they represent our interests in the seat of government.

01:44:42.000 But the World Economic Forum is talking about corporate governance.

01:44:45.000 They want to move away from national governance to a corporate governance.

01:44:47.000 Who cares what they want? 0.99

01:44:48.000 They're not American. 1.00

01:44:49.000 They don't have anything to do with us. 1.00

01:44:51.000 They suck. 0.99

01:44:52.000 I don't want any international law. 0.99

01:44:53.000 Well, they do have stuff to do with us because they're running the banks.

01:44:56.000 Right.

01:44:56.000 And we should not be in debt to any of these groups at all.

01:45:00.000 I understand the ideal.

01:45:01.000 I understand ideally it wouldn't happen, but the reality is it's moving in that direction.

01:45:04.000 So unless we break the system and fall into tribal warfare, I think we're headed towards a collective.

01:45:09.000 Unification.

01:45:10.000 Oh, it's fair.

01:45:11.000 We need to do it right.

01:45:12.000 We need to do it in the American guise. 0.98

01:45:14.000 We're not going to do it right. 0.97

01:45:15.000 It's going to be terrible.

01:45:16.000 No.

01:45:17.000 I wrote a book about this.

01:45:19.000 And what we're pushing towards is this China is what NS Lions called the China Convergence.

01:45:25.000 Like everyone is arriving at the solution you're talking about.

01:45:28.000 You can't govern people at scale with the systems we want without basically just triangulating on techno fascism.

01:45:35.000 Like that's basically where every government has to go.

01:45:38.000 So everyone's going to dress it up in different cultural requirements.

01:45:41.000 We're going to use, you know, social scores of one kind in China and different in the United States and different in Europe.

01:45:46.000 So that's the word for it techno fascism?

01:45:48.000 Well, no, they wouldn't call it that.

01:45:49.000 But functionally, What we're talking about is state control, entire state control of ideological understandings of the world through technocratic means.

01:45:58.000 Like that's going to be where everyone's going.

01:46:01.000 And so that's why everyone is implementing censorship of the internet right now.

01:46:05.000 It's why everyone's trying to tie bank accounts down.

01:46:07.000 That's why everyone's trying to make sure you can't drive in your car.

01:46:10.000 That's why, because the only way you can take diverse, large groups of people and govern them at scale is through basically technological tyranny.

01:46:18.000 It's the only option.

01:46:19.000 And I identify with self governance.

01:46:21.000 So I don't want someone else to govern.

01:46:23.000 I want to govern.

01:46:24.000 Myself with others governing ourselves.

01:46:26.000 So I see like a mesh network where everyone has their own social network that's connected to every other network, and everyone has their own cryptocurrency tracked with their person that they can pay people for, and people can buy things from them with discounts.

01:46:39.000 They use their own crypto, so it gives your inherent crypto value if you do things.

01:46:43.000 And then you can decide the rules and regulations of your own network.

01:46:46.000 People can still access your network from their system where they have their own rules.

01:46:50.000 And if they want to ban your stuff from their network, they can, but they can't ban you.

01:46:54.000 You have full control of your own network.

01:46:56.000 So it's kind of like Like techno, techno republic.

01:47:03.000 It wouldn't, it doesn't have to be top down.

01:47:05.000 You're talking about patchwork, actually.

01:47:07.000 So there's a, I don't want to sidetrack everybody on this, but Curtis Yarvin, you might have heard about him.

01:47:13.000 Yeah, I'd like to meet him.

01:47:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:47:14.000 He talked about patchwork a long time ago, which is basically like this quasi authoritarian, quasi libertarian synthesis of understandings where you have these microstates and each one of them is governed by someone with absolute power, but they're all competing against each other.

01:47:32.000 In a hyper capitalistic manner.

01:47:34.000 So you can choose to go to one patch, you can choose to go to the other, and they don't have to interact with each other.

01:47:39.000 And so people who see one system that works better, they can move there, but there's no voiding, there's no voting, there's no voice.

01:47:46.000 Your only option is exit.

01:47:47.000 Your only option is moving from one patch to the other.

01:47:49.000 And this allows you to kind of basically choose what forms of government and let them compete against each other for people who are ultimately going to be most valuable by producing the best systems while still having like this high degree of autonomy.

01:48:02.000 Again, none of the incentives that like destroy democracies by like handing out a bunch of stuff and getting power through votes.

01:48:07.000 Yeah, I like that because your vote is where you go.

01:48:09.000 What you decide to do with your time is your vote.

01:48:11.000 And then it would create a market of terms of service.

01:48:16.000 Whoever has the best terms of service, that's where the people will go.

01:48:19.000 Think of a thousand Singapores where, like, yeah, hyper capitalists, a lot of people want to live there.

01:48:24.000 But also, if you spit gum on the sidewalk, they're going to cane you. 0.86

01:48:27.000 And if you bring weed into the country, they're going to kill you. 0.77

01:48:29.000 Like, that's kind of the blueprint.

01:48:32.000 We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show in 15 minutes.

01:48:34.000 For now, we're going to go to the Rumble Rants and Super Chats.

01:48:37.000 That uncensored portion will be at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.

01:48:40.000 Before we go, guys, pick up some delicious cast brew coffee Mother's Day bundle available now.

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01:48:54.000 But we're going to grab your Rumble Rants over now.

01:48:57.000 We got Josh, 2371, says Have you heard of the quartering flagging people's videos, mislabeling coffee, violating FDA guidelines, and Hannah Clare quitting on them?

01:49:06.000 I've not heard any of that.

01:49:09.000 I did not know anything about that.

01:49:12.000 No, nothing.

01:49:13.000 I just remember when he got famous for Magic the Gathering controversies.

01:49:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:18.000 He got like bands from the GM.

01:49:20.000 All right.

01:49:21.000 HS Disturbed says Freaking shiny hunters hacked Canvas, and I'm freaking out because my daughter is finishing high school through a school that uses them.

01:49:27.000 She's freshly 18 and I don't know what to do.

01:49:29.000 Advice. 0.99

01:49:30.000 What is that?

01:49:31.000 Wait, somebody hacked Canvas?

01:49:33.000 What is that?

01:49:35.000 Canvas is the program that is used by all the students.

01:49:38.000 Oh, like a PowerPoint thing?

01:49:40.000 Oh, that's Canva.

01:49:40.000 Not exactly.

01:49:41.000 That's Canva.

01:49:42.000 Oh, sorry.

01:49:43.000 No, Canvas is like, The Mediterranean food place where you like.

01:49:46.000 It's where all your grades are.

01:49:48.000 It's where your teachers give you assignments.

01:49:50.000 It's like it tracks everything.

01:49:53.000 My conspiracy theory is that everything is going to get hacked and published online.

01:49:57.000 And that is going to be the mechanism by which they usher in technocracy.

01:50:01.000 Because everyone's going to be like just staring at each other.

01:50:04.000 And there's going to be a bunch of journalists with like weird tentacle stuff on their hard drives.

01:50:07.000 Gross.

01:50:08.000 And it was a fake stuff. 0.92

01:50:08.000 Well, that was actual guy I'm referencing. 0.92

01:50:10.000 There was a tentacle guy.

01:50:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:50:12.000 You don't remember that guy?

01:50:13.000 An anti Trump guy took a picture of his screen and had tentacle stuff on it.

01:50:18.000 Hmm.

01:50:18.000 You don't remember that?

01:50:19.000 I don't remember.

01:50:19.000 I remember that, but I don't remember who it was.

01:50:22.000 I don't remember.

01:50:23.000 How do you guys not know this?

01:50:24.000 Big anti Trump journalist.

01:50:25.000 I remember a lot.

01:50:26.000 Who was the anti Trump journalist?

01:50:27.000 Ian wouldn't know.

01:50:28.000 I might know.

01:50:30.000 You never know until you ask.

01:50:31.000 What's the question?

01:50:32.000 Who was the tentacle guy?

01:50:33.000 I don't know.

01:50:35.000 Tentacle guy?

01:50:36.000 Should I ask a question?

01:50:37.000 Was it Kurt Eichenwald, right?

01:50:39.000 Was that the guy?

01:50:40.000 You want me to ask him?

01:50:40.000 Josh knows.

01:50:41.000 He knows everything.

01:50:43.000 I think.

01:50:44.000 Journalist distracts from Comey Huron by defense.

01:50:46.000 Yeah, Kurt Eichenwald.

01:50:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:48.000 He was the anti Trump guy.

01:50:49.000 That's the year before I started paying attention.

01:50:52.000 Huh?

01:50:53.000 That's why I don't.

01:50:54.000 Wow, you missed a heck of a news cycle.

01:50:56.000 He posted a screenshot of his laptop, and people noticed that one of his tabs was like weird tentacle stuff.

01:51:02.000 Oh, like tentacle porn?

01:51:03.000 Yeah. 0.90

01:51:04.000 And he was like, no, I was just showing my wife.

01:51:06.000 And everyone went, wait, what?

01:51:08.000 I was explaining to her that it existed and I was going to show her.

01:51:10.000 Right.

01:51:11.000 What if he was honest about that?

01:51:11.000 It's like.

01:51:12.000 He was honest about that for a long time.

01:51:14.000 He had a bet.

01:51:15.000 There was Lord of the Overfiend.

01:51:16.000 What is that?

01:51:17.000 When?

01:51:18.000 What is it?

01:51:18.000 College.

01:51:19.000 It's awful.

01:51:19.000 What?

01:51:20.000 What is that?

01:51:21.000 It's a tentacle thing because we were.

01:51:21.000 And why were you watching it?

01:51:24.000 We were all tripping on acid and we were watching Lord of the Overfiend like you do.

01:51:29.000 And then we switched and started watching pornography.

01:51:32.000 No, it was a cartoon.

01:51:33.000 Yeah, no, that's not what we're talking about.

01:51:34.000 Tentacle?

01:51:35.000 Okay.

01:51:36.000 Yeah, the weird tentacle stuff is like he's looking at comics of women being captured by octopuses.

01:51:40.000 I'm pretty sure that's what this is.

01:51:41.000 It was creepy.

01:51:42.000 I think it's because octopuses are smart.

01:51:44.000 Oh, it's octopi, isn't it?

01:51:45.000 So it's kind of like sexy, you know, because they're intelligent.

01:51:47.000 They know what they're doing.

01:51:49.000 Yeah, that's what it's all about the intelligence.

01:51:52.000 Suction cups. 1.00

01:51:53.000 Sapiosexual. 1.00

01:51:53.000 It's very weird. 1.00

01:51:54.000 What's it?

01:51:55.000 It was very weird.

01:51:56.000 Yeah, yeah, people.

01:51:57.000 I mean, that one woman was going to hook it up with a dolphin, so I don't know.

01:52:00.000 What was the deal with the kamikaze dolphins?

01:52:02.000 Oh, apparently we have the best kamikaze dolphins in the world, and Iran definitely doesn't have them, according to Pete Hegsef, I think. 1.00

01:52:10.000 Yeah, it may be true. 0.91

01:52:12.000 I don't know if they've trained dolphins to work, the CIA has trained dolphins to work with them.

01:52:15.000 I like that we're just racing towards Aquaman technology.

01:52:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:52:19.000 I want to see one of those.

01:52:19.000 There's this crazy book by Kobo Abe, this Japanese writer called, I think it was called Secret Rendezvous.

01:52:27.000 And it was about how Japan is evolving human beings to live underwater. 0.99

01:52:34.000 I mean, those Polynesians can swim. 1.00

01:52:34.000 Really? 1.00

01:52:36.000 I've got questions for you, Libby, but let's grab some more of these rumble rants.

01:52:40.000 I went to Sarah Lawrence College.

01:52:41.000 That's the answer for your.

01:52:43.000 Rowdy Racer says, in keeping with tradition, my wife and I are in the hospital waiting for the arrival of our baby girl.

01:52:48.000 Nice.

01:52:48.000 Yes.

01:52:49.000 Congratulations.

01:52:50.000 Congratulations.

01:52:50.000 Babies are great.

01:52:51.000 Nice job. 0.98

01:52:53.000 My daughter has had mama before and stuff like that, but now she's figured it out. 1.00

01:52:58.000 So now all she says is mama because she gets whatever she wants.

01:53:01.000 There you go.

01:53:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:03.000 She just stands there and goes, mama, mama, mama, mama.

01:53:06.000 And then my wife is like, she's been Pavlov'd.

01:53:09.000 Well, I mean, it's like right at Mother's Day, too.

01:53:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:11.000 I mean, hi.

01:53:12.000 You know, but I, you know, she would say it sometimes and then not.

01:53:19.000 Now it's like, hey, call mom and she'll say, mama, you know, so yeah.

01:53:23.000 You got to be ready for the day when that won't work anymore.

01:53:23.000 Yeah.

01:53:26.000 Let her know ahead of time.

01:53:27.000 What do we got here?

01:53:27.000 One day.

01:53:28.000 Snozberry says Plague Inc.

01:53:30.000 Oh my God.

01:53:31.000 The hate, the hate it for have Greenland, Iceland, Madagascar.

01:53:35.000 The hate you have for it.

01:53:36.000 Those islands.

01:53:37.000 I think that's what he's talking about.

01:53:39.000 That's why you always had to make sure that you went for boats to get those hard to reach places.

01:53:44.000 Then.

01:53:45.000 You know what was really annoying about the game?

01:53:47.000 When they would mutate and it would automatically mutate to a very deadly thing.

01:53:50.000 And you're like, stop, no, get rid of that.

01:53:52.000 You could play as like a, what is it, a bacterium, a virus.

01:53:52.000 Because then they're going to.

01:53:56.000 You could play as the brain things.

01:54:00.000 What are those called?

01:54:01.000 Like a prion, a prion.

01:54:03.000 And every one of them functions differently.

01:54:05.000 Well, prions are very different.

01:54:06.000 I only ever played the pandemic, which is the other way around where you have to cure the. 1.00

01:54:06.000 Prions. 1.00

01:54:10.000 Right.

01:54:11.000 They made that after the expansion.

01:54:13.000 Also, he says, I love Tim and Ian.

01:54:16.000 They keep bringing up my favorite game since '93, Civilization, which both of my sons play now, and Plague Inc. that I play every now and again to this day.

01:54:22.000 Civilization, except for the, like, I don't know what.

01:54:25.000 Was five the last good one?

01:54:27.000 Well, six is pretty good.

01:54:29.000 I haven't played seven.

01:54:29.000 Wait, no, no.

01:54:30.000 What's the new one?

01:54:31.000 Seven?

01:54:32.000 Everyone's complaining.

01:54:33.000 Yeah, it's not done.

01:54:33.000 I've played five.

01:54:34.000 They need to make a sieve.

01:54:35.000 If you guys want to make a serial in it, you need to make a sieve.

01:54:37.000 Really?

01:54:38.000 Yeah, it's kind of weird, isn't it?

01:54:39.000 The next sieve, please break the mold.

01:54:41.000 You got to make it three dimensional where you can go up.

01:54:43.000 So it's like a 60 sided cute or like a hexagon, you know, where, so you can go up.

01:54:48.000 Or down, so you can go up into the air with planes.

01:54:51.000 You go higher into the air.

01:54:53.000 Oh, I see what you're saying, or underwater or underground.

01:54:55.000 Like that will take Civ to the next level because they're getting redundant.

01:54:59.000 And there's so many better four times.

01:55:00.000 Well, I mean, Civ four is all you needed.

01:55:02.000 Civ four is phenomenal.

01:55:03.000 All you got to do is keep patching with new technology when it comes out.

01:55:05.000 You can win by religious victory, cultural victory, scientific victory, and military victory.

01:55:10.000 Are there other ones?

01:55:11.000 No, I think those were they because they added the religious one later on.

01:55:15.000 Well, if everyone has your religion, yeah, or like what is victory in a civilization?

01:55:19.000 You know what I mean.

01:55:19.000 Yeah, cultural cohesion where they're all into what you believe, like the American way of life or the religious victory, or you get to Alpha Centauri first, basically, and populate another star system.

01:55:29.000 I got to read this one.

01:55:30.000 B. Stephen says the current Democrat platform is a successor of the Communist Party. 0.99

01:55:35.000 Agreed. 0.98

01:55:38.000 I'll take that legal reasoning.

01:55:39.000 Yep.

01:55:41.000 All right, let's see.

01:55:44.000 What have we here? 0.99

01:55:47.000 Vince says the aliens will give reason to kill Christians. 0.98

01:55:51.000 Is that what you're saying? 0.99

01:55:52.000 To KL Christians?

01:55:54.000 Is that what it's supposed to say?

01:55:57.000 Let's see. 1.00

01:55:58.000 Common Sense Fishing says slow news day or capitalizing on people's stupidity. 1.00

01:56:01.000 Hanta virus has been spreadable human to human and documented since the 90s. 0.99

01:56:05.000 No, not going to be a pandemic, et cetera.

01:56:07.000 Andy's strain been known, duh.

01:56:09.000 Indeed, I looked up the previous years, and this is not remarkable.

01:56:14.000 Like in previous years, we had more cases.

01:56:16.000 So it's just.

01:56:18.000 This is just a high profile case because it was on a cruise.

01:56:20.000 An American, was it an American cruise ship? 0.99

01:56:22.000 No, I think so.

01:56:23.000 No, I think it was from.

01:56:25.000 Maybe Argentina or Chile?

01:56:26.000 Yeah, I think it was Argentina.

01:56:26.000 Shocking.

01:56:28.000 Got people yelled about it on a ship.

01:56:32.000 All right.

01:56:34.000 Let's see.

01:56:36.000 What do we got here?

01:56:38.000 Nixon says Tim, can you please re release your first Boonies Pro model so I can complete the set of your Boonies board, the chicken one?

01:56:47.000 Is that, which, I don't know which one that is.

01:56:49.000 Is that the Chicken Amendment one? 0.78

01:56:52.000 I like that one.

01:56:53.000 Oh, the first one with actually just the Roberto.

01:56:56.000 We have a stack of them here.

01:56:57.000 We can have one.

01:56:58.000 Contact the Discord community.

01:57:00.000 Olivia could probably help facilitate, and we'll just send you one for free because they're lying around.

01:57:07.000 Anyway, let's see.

01:57:09.000 We can grab a couple more here.

01:57:12.000 XZ says Tim, I work with a company who has 10K employees who has to do with rat, mouse poop, and poop dust.

01:57:18.000 None have gotten the virus, which comes from rodent poop.

01:57:21.000 Unless you sniff, lick the ground, you'll be just fine, not worried.

01:57:24.000 Well, there you go, huh?

01:57:26.000 Poop dust.

01:57:27.000 It's the first time I ever heard that.

01:57:29.000 Poo dust. 0.52

01:57:34.000 You're no one's worried about poo dust? 1.00

01:57:35.000 I am now.

01:57:36.000 Well, we have chickens, and chicken poop dust is an issue.

01:57:40.000 Yeah, nasty.

01:57:41.000 I used to breathe it.

01:57:42.000 The chickens poop everywhere, right?

01:57:43.000 Walk around and then they'll go like, and then it just flies up in the air, and you go like, smell that beautiful country air.

01:57:50.000 Yeah, that can get overwhelming.

01:57:52.000 Yep.

01:57:54.000 What do we got going on?

01:57:55.000 We got a few minutes.

01:57:55.000 We'll grab a couple more here.

01:57:57.000 Poop dust.

01:57:58.000 James says, I'm a monarchist.

01:58:00.000 I think having a family who can be voted out of power would solve the problem with both systems.

01:58:06.000 So, a king who's impeachable.

01:58:09.000 So, this was actually Alexander Hamilton's idea.

01:58:14.000 That the presidency would basically be a lifelong monarchy that would be elected when the monarch died.

01:58:20.000 So basically, you would always have a president who served for his entire life and then you would elect a new one when he passed.

01:58:27.000 Oh, that's interesting idea.

01:58:28.000 Like the monarchy, that's actually an old version of monarchy.

01:58:30.000 Yeah.

01:58:31.000 But that also means that it's like a once in a, it's literally a once in a three generation.

01:58:35.000 Exactly.

01:58:36.000 You have an election every 20, 30 years.

01:58:36.000 Yeah.

01:58:38.000 You better believe that the king is going to try and control that next, his, his, Successor, no matter what.

01:58:44.000 So that's the danger of having a guy in power for 30 years.

01:58:46.000 Unlike our current system where Barack Obama definitely would not have influenced an entire presidency to which he could have not been elected, right?

01:58:53.000 Yeah, it'd be crazy if he supported Biden or something.

01:58:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:58.000 All right.

01:59:00.000 What is it?

01:59:01.000 Cy Nick says maybe everything in CVS wouldn't need behind plexiglass other than the sunscreen because some people can't be better.

01:59:09.000 Have you guys seen the viral video where it's a black woman complaining how racist the store is because.

01:59:16.000 The white foundation, the paler foundation is in the open and the darker foundation is sealed away.

01:59:22.000 No, I've heard of it.

01:59:22.000 She's like, this is proof.

01:59:24.000 You know, she's like, white people don't have to grow up like this.

01:59:26.000 And it's like, you understand they put those things there not because they're like, let's be racist.

01:59:31.000 It's because the inventory system says where it has to go based on what was shrinkage.

01:59:35.000 Is that what it's called?

01:59:35.000 There's always that subtle hint if you walk into a liquor store where all the Hennessy bottles have the the theft control device on them and all the $200 scosh bottles don't.

01:59:48.000 All right.

01:59:51.000 Orion says, My wife is Christine Sarmiento.

01:59:54.000 Is that what you said? 0.60

01:59:55.000 She is running for governor in California as a no party candidate. 0.76

01:59:59.000 NP candidates are ignored by the media.

02:00:01.000 She's a public health nurse for downtown LA and can speak on the Hantavirus, COVID, hospice, Skid Row, and fraud. 0.97

02:00:07.000 Ah, well, interesting.

02:00:11.000 I think we're going to have Spencer Pratt come on.

02:00:14.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:00:15.000 Yeah, and I reached out to him.

02:00:18.000 He told me that it was actually one of our Discord members who helped make his videos.

02:00:22.000 I don't want to speak out of turn because I don't know exactly who did what or what it was, but apparently, you know, he's well aware.

02:00:28.000 He's crushing.

02:00:29.000 He's fantastic, by the way.

02:00:30.000 And he's not like some hardcore conservative, right?

02:00:33.000 He's like an LA guy.

02:00:34.000 Yeah.

02:00:34.000 Lived in the Palisades.

02:00:35.000 He's like a moderate.

02:00:36.000 Yeah, he grew up in Pacific Palisades.

02:00:36.000 I don't know.

02:00:40.000 He lived there.

02:00:41.000 His house burned down.

02:00:42.000 His parents' house burned down.

02:00:43.000 Yeah.

02:00:44.000 And he was like on reality TV.

02:00:45.000 Yeah, he was an actor, right?

02:00:47.000 I thought I was making this up for a second.

02:00:48.000 Yeah.

02:00:49.000 And it's crazy that.

02:00:52.000 We live in a country where they're going to vote for Karen Bass or that, you know, what's her name?

02:00:56.000 Priyathal or whatever?

02:00:59.000 Nitya Rahman.

02:01:00.000 Oh, is that what it is?

02:01:01.000 I don't think she has a chance.

02:01:03.000 You think Karen Bass is going to win?

02:01:03.000 I think.

02:01:05.000 That's because people in LA are dumb. 0.99

02:01:06.000 But I mean, you look at Spencer Pratt and you see him talk and you listen to what he's saying and stuff, and you're like, no, he should be mayor of my town. 0.99

02:01:15.000 Like, he's great.

02:01:17.000 Oh, he was in the Bold and the Beautiful CVS soap opera.

02:01:20.000 He has really, he has like a lot of strong ideas about how to clean up the streets and prevent these kinds of fires from happening again.

02:01:28.000 Interesting.

02:01:29.000 I mean, that's.

02:01:31.000 Tristan says Ian, techno nations, no physical borders, just network borders.

02:01:37.000 So, I pitched an idea to the Daily Wire guys and to Agel Studios.

02:01:42.000 I say pitch lightly.

02:01:44.000 I told them the idea I had that I talked about on the show.

02:01:47.000 The idea for the show is fast pitch.

02:01:49.000 We got one minute.

02:01:50.000 There's one city left on Earth.

02:01:51.000 All the other cities are left in ruins.

02:01:53.000 Humans don't know at what point the collapse happened or why it happened.

02:01:56.000 And there's one city with 10 million residents in the outskirts and there's farms.

02:02:00.000 One day, a scouting mission goes out and they see these strange, thin beings in an all white suit with chrome helmets.

02:02:07.000 And they're like, Put your hands up, you know, because they don't know what it is.

02:02:11.000 And they're scouting outside the city.

02:02:12.000 And then these beings just like raise their hand and blast them with energy and vaporize a guy.

02:02:17.000 And they're like, ah.

02:02:18.000 And then they think these creatures must have been what destroyed all of human civilization.

02:02:23.000 And so then you get drama for like a season where they encounter these beings, these creatures.

02:02:29.000 Then one day they're like at a junkyard and they get into a firefight and the humans are trapped and they're like, we can't get out.

02:02:35.000 And then so then one guy hits a button and then like the big magnet lift drops a car and crushes one of these things.

02:02:40.000 And the rest of them all just like float away.

02:02:42.000 And then when they go up and they rip the helmet off, it's a human head with no hair.

02:02:46.000 And they're like, oh my God, they're humans.

02:02:49.000 And then the twist at the end is that it turns out civilization never collapsed.

02:02:53.000 Humans just moved into pods underground where they live in pods in virtual reality 100, 200 years ago.

02:03:00.000 And the humans that remain were the people who lived outside of cities, they lived in rural areas, they never integrated.

02:03:07.000 And the reason why they can't figure out what happened is because all of the newspapers stopped at a certain date, all of the servers stopped producing data, stopped displaying websites at a certain date.

02:03:16.000 It slowly just trickles out because the news is now in their networked environment, not outside.

02:03:24.000 For instance, if Benjamin Franklin was alive today, he'd say, I must figure out what's happening in this world.

02:03:29.000 Get me a periodical.

02:03:30.000 And we'd be like, Well, no, we use our phones to get the news.

02:03:32.000 He'd be like, What is that?

02:03:34.000 So if, let's say, the time froze and, you know, George Washington appeared here and everyone was frozen in time, he'd be looking for a newspaper to try and figure out what was going on, but there's limited information.

02:03:45.000 And that's what's basically the story.

02:03:47.000 And then, you know, the season two is.

02:03:49.000 They plug themselves into the matrix, and then there's interactions between human civilization and the pods.

02:03:55.000 The reason the beings came up out of ground is because periodically they have to maintain the servers and the power structures.

02:03:59.000 I like that a lot because I think about preserving data.

02:04:02.000 That's really the essence of evolution.

02:04:05.000 Sorry, but let's save it for the uncensored because we're over.

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02:04:15.000 Arn, do you want to shout anything out?

02:04:16.000 Yeah, again, Orrin McIntyre's show.

02:04:18.000 It's on Blaze TV, Rumble, YouTube, all the.

02:04:22.000 Podcast platforms.

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02:04:34.000 And you can, oh, and the post millennial.

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02:05:05.000 It's sick.

02:05:09.000 And yeah, we will see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL right now.

02:05:14.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:06:24.000 I'm curious.

02:06:26.000 Libby likes. 0.88

02:06:27.000 So, you and your college friends were sitting around and just like watching tentacle porn? 0.67

02:06:32.000 No.

02:06:35.000 There was a house where a bunch of people that I knew hung out.

02:06:40.000 And so I went over there and they were always watching something weird.

02:06:44.000 And one time they were watching that.

02:06:46.000 What happened to it?

02:06:47.000 It was weird.

02:06:49.000 It sort of burned into my memory and it was awful.

02:06:52.000 It was like really gross.

02:06:54.000 Did oh keep going?

02:06:56.000 No, I cut off like what was going to be a really good thing you were going to say.

02:07:01.000 No, I wasn't going to say anything.

02:07:03.000 I just remember it was gross and we took a bunch of drugs and then we watched Apocalypse Now instead.

02:07:09.000 Did the tentacles go down their throats?

02:07:11.000 I don't remember that.

02:07:12.000 Yeah, you do. 0.99

02:07:12.000 No, you don't remember that tentacle shit's crazy. 0.99

02:07:16.000 I remember tentacles took up the entire screen and I said to my friend, I'm not crazy about this. 0.98

02:07:22.000 It's like each tentacle and they're like sitting around at the couch, like just like drinking beer, being like, yeah.

02:07:27.000 Just, you know, hanging out.

02:07:28.000 There was also music.

02:07:30.000 I mean, like, I don't get that.

02:07:30.000 I mean, it was like.

02:07:34.000 I can understand someone sitting around watching, like, Attack on Titan, and you walk in and you're like, what the fuck are you watching? 0.94

02:07:39.000 It's like, okay, well, these things are gigantic monsters, and that giant naked lady, and that guy's got cables he's shooting from his legs so he can swing around the city, but he's got to use the sword only in the neck. 0.94

02:07:47.000 I'd be like, well, nothing was explained.

02:07:49.000 We walked in in the middle.

02:07:50.000 Everyone was hanging out, you know, drinking.

02:07:53.000 It was 1993.

02:07:54.000 Were people actively watching?

02:07:56.000 Yeah, was it like off in a corner, and like, three people were watching, or was it like this?

02:07:59.000 Everybody was sitting around just like, yo, let's.

02:08:02.000 Let's go!

02:08:02.000 It's not like we didn't have flat screens.

02:08:04.000 You know, it was just like a normal, small TV.

02:08:07.000 Was it like Eon Flux?

02:08:09.000 Do you remember that show?

02:08:10.000 That was a movie, right?

02:08:11.000 MTV?

02:08:12.000 It was like a cartoon.

02:08:13.000 Yeah, they ruined it with the movie.

02:08:14.000 I only vaguely remember that.

02:08:15.000 It was that animation style where it was like, I don't want to zoom up on the tongue and you see the saliva dripping.

02:08:21.000 I'm like, oh, that was like as pornographic as I could handle with cartoons. 0.99

02:08:24.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:08:24.000 But no, yeah, I mean. 0.99

02:08:25.000 The show was intentionally disgusting.

02:08:26.000 You know, the 90s were weird.

02:08:28.000 There was like, there was this whole thing too about like if you were hanging out with.

02:08:32.000 You know, people didn't go on dates.

02:08:34.000 You just like hung out with a bunch of people and you'd like go do stuff.

02:08:38.000 And there was always a lot of pressure to go to strip clubs.

02:08:40.000 And it would be like, oh, are you cool enough to go to a strip club?

02:08:44.000 You should come to strip clubs.

02:08:45.000 I just got to say, all that stuff.

02:08:45.000 Oh, man.

02:08:47.000 I feel so bad for Gen Z. 1.00

02:08:48.000 I just feel so bad. 1.00

02:08:49.000 Because, like, some of the best times ever, it's like you just go to your friend's apartment and you hit the bell and they're like, yeah.

02:08:56.000 And you're like, hey, Tim.

02:08:57.000 And they're like, oh, man.

02:08:59.000 You walk upstairs, there's like three dudes and the TV's on and they're watching football or basketball.

02:09:04.000 And then you walk up, grab a slice of the pizza they ordered and sit down.

02:09:07.000 And then someone's like, the game's over, and they put on Halo.

02:09:09.000 You know, those were the days.

02:09:10.000 Usually I brought my cards if I'm going over somebody's house.

02:09:12.000 That's true, yeah.

02:09:14.000 Yeah, back in the day when I lived in Brooklyn, Adam had a big poker table, and then we'd sit there, they put the game on, and we'd play just three hour Magic the Gathering sessions, order pizza.

02:09:24.000 I once, I once, get this.

02:09:25.000 I once, this is going to blow your mind.

02:09:28.000 I took a bunch of brown sugar cinnamon Pop Tarts and I mashed them all up, threw them all in a bag and just mashed the bag up.

02:09:35.000 And then I used that as a cookie crust, dumped Dolce de Leche all over it.

02:09:40.000 And then I put another layer, and then I put chocolate Dolce de Leche on it.

02:09:44.000 And then I ate one, and I was like, this is insanely delicious.

02:09:48.000 I'm not going to eat any more of this.

02:09:49.000 And then I brought it over to Magic the Gathering Night.

02:09:51.000 Everyone annihilated it. 1.00

02:09:52.000 See, Gen Z, they don't do this stuff. 0.98

02:09:54.000 They don't have to.

02:09:55.000 That's the problem, it's easier to sit at home and game multiplayer on the internet.

02:10:00.000 And alcohol's in a downturn.

02:10:02.000 We did that too, bro.

02:10:03.000 I played World of Warcraft OG, man.

02:10:05.000 Yeah.

02:10:05.000 I reached PvP Field Marshal.

02:10:07.000 Not the best, but pretty dang good.

02:10:09.000 With Warcraft started, we would just sit in the same room, me and Eric, my roommate in Chicago, we'd sit in the same room on each of our computers playing together.

02:10:16.000 But it was like that was where the divergence began.

02:10:18.000 And then I moved, and I didn't see him anymore, so we'd have to play online.

02:10:21.000 Yeah, I remember when you had Halo 1 and you had to do a LAN party by physically getting four Xboxes in the same area and four people playing on each one.

02:10:30.000 And now that they've made the entire experience preferential to you playing alone online with other people, just no one ever wants to ask you that.

02:10:38.000 I remember my son, he likes to play video games and he plays with his friends and they play online or whatever.

02:10:42.000 But it used to be that his friends would come over.

02:10:44.000 When we lived in Brooklyn, his friends would come over and they'd all bring their controllers and they'd all play something.

02:10:50.000 Now they just all sit on Discord and watch it.

02:10:52.000 And now they all have to sit on Discord.

02:10:53.000 Remember, like.

02:10:54.000 I'll say, like, hey, do you want to do something?

02:10:57.000 You know, can I pick up all your friends?

02:10:59.000 Can I take you somewhere?

02:11:00.000 They want to come over, whatever it is.

02:11:02.000 And it's always like their parents don't let them.

02:11:04.000 You know, it's like the.

02:11:05.000 We need a giant, we need a planetary EMP.

02:11:09.000 That would be great.

02:11:10.000 You know, send everybody back to the Stone Age.

02:11:12.000 I'll be a chicken farmer.

02:11:13.000 Not necessarily that, but it would be good to get the kids out.

02:11:16.000 Like, we used to just go wander around.

02:11:18.000 Lately, I've been like, I'm going to start drinking alcohol again, but I don't know if it's that simple.

02:11:22.000 I did have some beer, like, every Friday.

02:11:24.000 And there's a fine selection.

02:11:26.000 Yeah, but I want to get drunk and drive. 0.99

02:11:27.000 I just, I want to get drunk and not give a shit. 0.99

02:11:30.000 We got a $2,000 tequila. 0.99

02:11:33.000 We got Louis over there as well.

02:11:33.000 That sounds tasty.

02:11:35.000 Also, I'm pretty sure Lauren Southern drank the Louis out of a paper cup.

02:11:38.000 I don't, and I never, I didn't drink growing up.

02:11:39.000 I'm not a bourbon collector myself.

02:11:44.000 Well, I think we're out because that's what everyone goes for first.

02:11:47.000 Fair.

02:11:48.000 He's like, if I go out, scotch.

02:11:49.000 No, no, I think we got some.

02:11:50.000 I think Barrel is a bourbon.

02:11:52.000 Yeah.

02:11:53.000 We got Lafroyd.

02:11:55.000 That's a scotch, but.

02:11:55.000 I like Lafroyd.

02:11:56.000 You know what's visiting you?

02:11:57.000 Very ashy.

02:11:57.000 Is the the theater.

02:11:59.000 Do you guys know people that do theater?

02:12:01.000 I don't know anybody that's in the artsy sense or like part of the movie.

02:12:04.000 I know of people.

02:12:05.000 It's called the Democratic Party.

02:12:06.000 Oh, you've seen them do.

02:12:08.000 No, they're theater kids.

02:12:09.000 They're theater kids.

02:12:10.000 I used to know a lot of theater kids until just a couple of years ago.

02:12:13.000 Oh, when you left New York.

02:12:14.000 And now I don't know any of them anymore.

02:12:16.000 Yeah.

02:12:17.000 Yeah, I used to be in the theater.

02:12:18.000 I mean, a great community bonding experience.

02:12:19.000 It is a little culty because it's like their little insulated community.

02:12:23.000 You know, the one thing that I am jealous for regular people over is that no longer can I troll regular people because people know who I am and they know my opinions.

02:12:32.000 Yeah. 0.94

02:12:33.000 But, like, back in the day, I could walk down the street and I'd be talking to someone, and I could just claim to have whatever opinion I wanted if they said something retarded. 0.97

02:12:39.000 If they were like, Barack Obama's gonna get us out of the war in Afghanistan, I could just be like, well, Barack Obama, I could just say things to argue with them. 0.95

02:12:47.000 But now everybody knows my opinion, so it's just like, yeah, no, you get it.

02:12:50.000 I know you're forced to stick by who you are.

02:12:52.000 You have to be real.

02:12:53.000 As the more famous you get, you're better to be real. 0.70

02:12:55.000 Hey, what's the name of that porn tentacle thing you were saying? 0.58

02:12:57.000 Because I wanna watch it.

02:12:58.000 Like, can we pull it?

02:12:59.000 We're uncensored, so I'm kind of intrigued by.

02:13:01.000 I don't think there's just one tentacle.

02:13:03.000 There's not, what was the name of the show?

02:13:06.000 I'm gonna look it up personally.

02:13:07.000 It's a genre, it's a whole genre, yes.

02:13:09.000 Okay, yeah, you weren't just watching one thing, tentacular.

02:13:12.000 I think that's the adjective, bro. 1.00

02:13:13.000 Japanese people are weird. 1.00

02:13:16.000 The whole thing is weird. 1.00

02:13:17.000 The guys who marry pillows is it because they're inbred?

02:13:19.000 I don't think it's because we bombed them.

02:13:23.000 It's like, like how Godzilla is just a metaphor for them working out their anxiety over nuclear warfare.

02:13:29.000 I think it's oh, it resembles the nuclear bomb, and it's actually Gojira, but because people couldn't understand the Japanese accent and they're going, Gojira.

02:13:38.000 Godzilla, they're like, are you saying Godzilla?

02:13:40.000 But seriously, Godzilla.

02:13:41.000 Serious question.

02:13:42.000 What was the name of that show?

02:13:44.000 I'm not gonna.

02:13:45.000 Are you joking?

02:13:46.000 It's not one thing.

02:13:47.000 It's a genre.

02:13:48.000 Well, I know, but the one she saw in the 90s.

02:13:49.000 She wouldn't.

02:13:50.000 Why would she know that?

02:13:51.000 You said it on the show earlier.

02:13:52.000 I just forgot what.

02:13:53.000 Oh, you know what?

02:13:54.000 Oh, okay.

02:13:54.000 You did say it on the show earlier.

02:13:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:13:57.000 Elephants out of the.

02:13:58.000 But now I don't want everyone to remember it and go find it.

02:14:00.000 You never have to go back and look at it.

02:14:02.000 All right.

02:14:02.000 That's the point.

02:14:03.000 I just avoided tentacle porn my whole life. 0.99

02:14:05.000 It's going up the butt, like that squiggly little tick. 0.99

02:14:08.000 It's grotesque. 0.99

02:14:09.000 Or down the throat.

02:14:10.000 This is all too much.

02:14:11.000 What's going on?

02:14:11.000 What are you doing?

02:14:12.000 I know it's uncensored, but still.

02:14:14.000 Yeah, all right, here we go.

02:14:15.000 That's what you love.

02:14:16.000 We got callers.

02:14:17.000 We got Brandon Brown.

02:14:18.000 It's too much for uncensored, bro.

02:14:20.000 It's too much.

02:14:21.000 Brandon.

02:14:22.000 What's up, Brandon?

02:14:24.000 Hi.

02:14:25.000 Oh, not a lot.

02:14:26.000 Well, I mean, you guys are talking about Hantavirus.

02:14:29.000 You got Hantavirus in the thumbnail, but I don't think you're really grasping it.

02:14:35.000 You're not giving everybody the full Hantavirus thing, you know.

02:14:39.000 So, I mean, the Hantavirus cruise ship, whatever you want to call it, I can't remember the name of it, it literally stopped at a landfill. 1.00

02:14:48.000 Yeah, the Birdwatchers went to go to a dump.

02:14:51.000 What?

02:14:52.000 Really?

02:14:52.000 And you know what the name of that landfill was?

02:14:52.000 Yeah.

02:14:55.000 The End of the World.

02:14:55.000 The Haunted Vice.

02:14:57.000 They call it the End of the World.

02:14:59.000 Wait, it's called the End of the World?

02:15:00.000 You broke up.

02:15:02.000 Yeah, it's just called the End of the World.

02:15:04.000 Where was that?

02:15:05.000 We live in a simulation.

02:15:06.000 Did you guys see that Speedlin Gonzalez, a judge, was forced to resign or whatever?

02:15:11.000 We live in a simulation.

02:15:12.000 I'm sorry.

02:15:13.000 Oh, yeah, I totally saw that.

02:15:14.000 Speedlin Gonzalez? 0.98

02:15:16.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 1.00

02:15:17.000 This is Truman Show bullshit. 1.00

02:15:18.000 I'm not sure if Yosemite Sam was unavailable for comment. 1.00

02:15:22.000 Hey, where was the end of the world trash dump that you were talking about?

02:15:26.000 What country?

02:15:27.000 Oh, I cannot remember offhand.

02:15:30.000 It's that place where they have that odd strain that passes from human to human, the Andes strain.

02:15:36.000 Oh, I was down there. 0.98

02:15:38.000 But, you know, when we first discovered that shit, it was in the early 50s, and it was 3,000 UN soldiers, mostly US guys, that caught it. 0.99

02:15:50.000 And. 0.99

02:15:52.000 I mean, in the X Files, it was Mulder's dad that was working on that shit. 0.97

02:15:58.000 And there was another episode where Scully catches it because it was some, I don't remember what the deal was, but she like starts to freak out and bleed from the nose because she thinks she's got the Hanta virus. 0.97

02:16:11.000 So.

02:16:12.000 My favorite was when Bart was chewing the gum and Krusty is like, we have to issue an important recall.

02:16:18.000 We knew about the spider eggs, but we did not know about the Hanta virus.

02:16:22.000 And then Bart blows a bubble and spiders burst out of it.

02:16:24.000 And he's like, just call 1 800 800.

02:16:27.000 Antidote to set, yeah.

02:16:30.000 I vaguely remember that, yeah.

02:16:34.000 The spider eggs.

02:16:35.000 What's up?

02:16:35.000 Did I think you didn't ask a question?

02:16:37.000 Did you ask a question yet, or did you have no?

02:16:39.000 I was all over the map, I didn't exactly answer ask a question, but uh, oh, I didn't know if you had one.

02:16:45.000 Do you follow up, I guess?

02:16:48.000 Oh, yeah, dude, give me some good nut picking questions for the Portland ice facility.

02:16:54.000 I, you broke up a little bit, was it?

02:16:55.000 Can you speak a little closer to the mic?

02:16:58.000 Um, I think it's cutting out.

02:17:01.000 Give me some good nut picking questions for the Portland Ice facility.

02:17:05.000 What do you mean?

02:17:05.000 I don't know.

02:17:06.000 Nut picking?

02:17:07.000 Yeah, what is this?

02:17:09.000 Oh, yeah, like man on the street, you know, nut picking.

02:17:12.000 I've never heard of that.

02:17:13.000 First, I've heard that phrase, nut picking.

02:17:15.000 Yeah.

02:17:16.000 Finding the crazy people in a crowd and interviewing them.

02:17:21.000 How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

02:17:25.000 Yeah, that's not going to work.

02:17:27.000 What are you going to do?

02:17:28.000 What you want to do?

02:17:29.000 I love these videos.

02:17:30.000 This guy does a video where he's like, he's like, uh, He's a picture of a guy.

02:17:34.000 Do you think he's straight or gay?

02:17:36.000 And he's like, Do you think that people would, if they saw a picture of you, they'd be able to tell if you were straight or gay? 0.60

02:17:36.000 And the guy's like, Oh, he's gay. 0.60

02:17:40.000 And he's like, Oh, yeah.

02:17:41.000 And they're like, Are you straight?

02:17:42.000 He's like, I'm straight.

02:17:43.000 But every guy thinks every guy is gay. 1.00

02:17:45.000 Yeah, I saw that. 0.98

02:17:46.000 Every time.

02:17:47.000 That was pretty cool.

02:17:49.000 There's like a guy, he's like, not wearing a shirt.

02:17:49.000 But it's obvious.

02:17:50.000 He's got a backwards cap. 1.00

02:17:51.000 And I'm like, Oh, he's gay. 0.64

02:17:53.000 He's going to say I'm straight, but everyone's going to think he's gay. 0.75

02:17:56.000 Everyone thought everybody on those were gay. 0.60

02:17:58.000 It was kind of funny. 1.00

02:17:59.000 Yeah.

02:18:00.000 I don't know what you ask Antifa people.

02:18:04.000 Ask him, what is your vision for.

02:18:04.000 Yeah.

02:18:07.000 A better future.

02:18:10.000 Yeah.

02:18:13.000 That'll be interesting.

02:18:14.000 I remember the first time I went out there, I had people saying that, you know, there were no hierarchies and freaking wolf packs and a bunch of all kinds of weird stuff.

02:18:28.000 It was a weird day.

02:18:29.000 But I've never tried doing that where you ask questions to them and just try to get, you know, those videos.

02:18:38.000 Yeah.

02:18:39.000 Yeah.

02:18:40.000 It could be really great.

02:18:42.000 Like the longer you sit there and talk, probably the better the content will come out.

02:18:46.000 You know, with diminishing returns, because if you're there for like nine days, people be like, Hey, wrap it up, you know?

02:18:51.000 Yeah.

02:18:54.000 All right.

02:18:55.000 All right.

02:18:55.000 I guess that's all I had.

02:18:56.000 Hey, you want to shout anything out before you go, dude?

02:18:59.000 Not really.

02:19:00.000 I mean, I guess I could do my ex account at BrownBrandon503.

02:19:06.000 Let us know when you go interview everybody.

02:19:06.000 All right.

02:19:08.000 Yeah.

02:19:08.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:19:09.000 Thanks, dude.

02:19:10.000 I will.

02:19:10.000 See me.

02:19:12.000 All right. 0.99

02:19:13.000 Next up, we've got Angry Fat White Guy. 0.70

02:19:17.000 Hey, y'all, thanks for taking my call.

02:19:19.000 First off, Ian, the movie you're looking for, and don't blame me, it's called Lair of the Overfiend.

02:19:26.000 It will change your life.

02:19:27.000 Not for the better.

02:19:29.000 It was the first Japan anime I ever saw after watching Robotech because I thought I was into Japan anime.

02:19:34.000 It turned me off forever.

02:19:35.000 Oh, awesome.

02:19:36.000 But yeah, you've been warned.

02:19:39.000 At least it didn't turn you on forever.

02:19:41.000 Well, tomorrow is officially disclosure day, guys.

02:19:43.000 It'll be the beginning.

02:19:44.000 There's supposedly going to be weekly tranches, and this is confirmed by Burchett and Luna.

02:19:51.000 We're not going to get everything, obviously, and no one's going to be satisfied.

02:19:54.000 But what do you think the government will disclose?

02:19:57.000 That's part one.

02:19:58.000 And then part two why do you think Trump is doing it?

02:20:00.000 So I'd like to hear your thoughts, and I'll share mine after you're all done.

02:20:03.000 Oh, so there's a big disclosure.

02:20:04.000 Yeah, I think it's going to be vague.

02:20:06.000 It's going to be a lot of what we've already heard.

02:20:09.000 There's going to be nothing.

02:20:10.000 There's going to be more information on strange objects pilots have seen with no real information as to what they are.

02:20:15.000 Point out alien.gov.

02:20:16.000 Try and get a lot of people to sign up for alien.gov.

02:20:18.000 It's a marketing campaign.

02:20:19.000 Yeah.

02:20:20.000 Yeah.

02:20:22.000 Alien.gov just turns out to be illegal aliens.

02:20:24.000 I was just going to say, yeah, it's all actually just a troll to like push ice.

02:20:28.000 Like, the aliens are here.

02:20:29.000 They're among us.

02:20:30.000 It's all real.

02:20:31.000 We have to fight back.

02:20:32.000 Good disclosure.

02:20:33.000 They're aliens. 1.00

02:20:34.000 Get them out. 1.00

02:20:36.000 Maybe we could get a real number of how many illegals are actually here. 0.99

02:20:38.000 That would be a great disclosure.

02:20:40.000 I can't fathom that they would actually say extraterrestrial aliens have come to Earth.

02:20:45.000 That would be so crazy for the government to try that card.

02:20:48.000 That'd be so crazy.

02:20:50.000 So I don't know what they're going to do, but definitely they're going to mention Alien.gov.

02:20:55.000 It's at what, three tomorrow?

02:20:57.000 Is that call that they're having?

02:20:58.000 Oh, good.

02:20:59.000 But it's probably.

02:21:00.000 No, that was today.

02:21:01.000 That was today.

02:21:02.000 Yeah, because the Rogan is delayed.

02:21:04.000 Oh, that's right.

02:21:05.000 Did they do something on Rogan?

02:21:07.000 You said Rogan?

02:21:08.000 Yeah, obviously.

02:21:09.000 Tim Burchett was on.

02:21:09.000 This is the segment that we covered where I read Tim Burchett appeared on Joe Rogan's show.

02:21:14.000 I think he was on Rogan.

02:21:15.000 I think I just heard you talking about Burchett.

02:21:16.000 Okay.

02:21:17.000 Yeah.

02:21:18.000 And he told Rogan, tomorrow they're going to call me, which was today because it's.

02:21:18.000 That was the story.

02:21:23.000 I wonder what happened.

02:21:25.000 Say anything?

02:21:25.000 Tim.

02:21:27.000 We should get Burchett.

02:21:28.000 I'm sure he'd be down to come on the show.

02:21:29.000 He can't tell us anything.

02:21:31.000 But I feel like they're using Burchett and really making him think something is real that's not.

02:21:37.000 They're talking to a lot of people, not just.

02:21:38.000 Maybe they'll disclose that all those people that we thought disappeared are actually safe and they are working with them.

02:21:44.000 I think Michael Crichton's understanding of aliens was always the best one.

02:21:47.000 It's like basically things out there would be so radically different that any hope of peaceful communication would be impossible.

02:21:54.000 That's incorrect.

02:21:54.000 You think so?

02:21:56.000 Yeah, because. 0.99

02:21:59.000 So, assuming there is intelligent alien life, you can then start to look at the mediums for which we understand.

02:22:06.000 Again, all based on human understanding, which is limited, but based on our understanding, water is a principal medium by which information can be exchanged.

02:22:13.000 So, they're going to be likely water based.

02:22:14.000 That's why we think if there's water, there's life.

02:22:17.000 If they're intelligent beings from a water planet, they're not going to be able to leave that planet or communicate, so we'll never experience that.

02:22:23.000 You can't build rockets, you can't refine elements or compounds, you can't do any of that.

02:22:28.000 They would actually have to come from a relatively comparably sized planet for propulsion to work for fuel propellants like we have.

02:22:36.000 They would have to have something to manipulate, they'd have to have digits of some sort to manipulate small objects, and they would have to come from a balanced oxygen environment.

02:22:47.000 To be able to create fire, which is the basis for which we can separate elements and create technology.

02:22:51.000 So they would actually be remarkably similar.

02:22:53.000 Yeah, they would have to be.

02:22:55.000 If Trump was like, the aliens are here among us, they're inside of us, and if you smoke DMT, you can communicate with the aliens, I would believe him.

02:23:04.000 If he said that, I'd be like, oh, now the government actually knows about the aliens.

02:23:07.000 No, then I would assume they're actually demons.

02:23:09.000 I would assume that as well.

02:23:11.000 What if the Scientologists are right, man?

02:23:13.000 And they're all lizard people? 0.81

02:23:15.000 And it's just like the lizard people?

02:23:17.000 The Scientologists, they say, Xenu, is that what it is?

02:23:20.000 Yeah, you gotta check your Thetans.

02:23:21.000 What is that, right? 0.99

02:23:22.000 Thetans or some crap? 0.99

02:23:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:23:24.000 Thetans? 0.56

02:23:25.000 Yeah, when they're doing the little Dianetics thing where they check it, they're supposed to be checking your Thetan.

02:23:29.000 Well, they don't tell you that. 0.75

02:23:31.000 Aren't they just finding stuff to blackmail you with?

02:23:33.000 Well, it's like a billion year contract, right?

02:23:36.000 Well, I don't know.

02:23:37.000 Why two billion years?

02:23:38.000 They really wrap you up.

02:23:39.000 Yeah.

02:23:40.000 They know how space time works.

02:23:42.000 It's a flat plane.

02:23:45.000 I'd like to make a point.

02:23:46.000 Tim, you just said Burchett can't tell you anything.

02:23:48.000 I would disagree.

02:23:50.000 I mean, he would certainly lose his clearance, but any congressman could absolutely divulge everything they heard in a skiff on the House floor.

02:23:58.000 It's a criminal act, but of course they could, yes.

02:24:01.000 Yeah.

02:24:02.000 They go to prison, but yeah. 1.00

02:24:04.000 As stupid and as crazy as our congresspeople were, you think someone would have done that right now? 1.00

02:24:07.000 They're immune. 1.00

02:24:08.000 They can say anything they want.

02:24:09.000 You mean on the floor?

02:24:10.000 You're saying on the House.

02:24:11.000 Speech and debate clause.

02:24:12.000 Yeah.

02:24:13.000 Yeah.

02:24:14.000 Constitutionally protected.

02:24:15.000 But then again, they'd lose their clearance and they'd be kicked off every committee and it would end their career.

02:24:20.000 But if somebody were retiring.

02:24:23.000 They absolutely could.

02:24:24.000 I think it was Dan Bongino who said he would muddy the waters at the FBI.

02:24:28.000 He'd release fake information to see who was the mole.

02:24:31.000 I wonder if they're doing that with these.

02:24:32.000 Well, it didn't work out very well and he left.

02:24:34.000 Wouldn't George Santos have told us since he had nothing to lose if the aliens were real and he knew?

02:24:39.000 Well, he told us on this show before going to Congress he didn't believe in aliens.

02:24:43.000 Afterwards, he did.

02:24:44.000 Interesting.

02:24:45.000 He said he had been briefed.

02:24:47.000 He can't explain on what or how or anything related to it.

02:24:49.000 So then I think it was Phil who asked, Do you believe in aliens?

02:24:53.000 And he goes, No.

02:24:56.000 Interesting.

02:24:57.000 That is interesting.

02:25:00.000 So, I'll tell you what I think.

02:25:01.000 Okay.

02:25:02.000 I think the thing is okay, this is what the government is going to say yes to.

02:25:06.000 They're going to say UFOs are real, but we don't know what they are.

02:25:09.000 They're going to give us some videos of weird stuff, and it's going to be partially redacted.

02:25:13.000 And they're going to say, we don't know what that is.

02:25:15.000 And we're going to get some pictures, same thing.

02:25:16.000 We're going to say, we don't know what that is.

02:25:18.000 We're going to get some documents like Hatter reports, which is hazardous aircraft reports.

02:25:22.000 We're going to get range file reports.

02:25:24.000 And then we're going to get heavily redacted documents like MISREPs and actual official UAP reports.

02:25:30.000 What we're not going to hear or see is that the government is not going to say UFOs are real and they're not being by humans.

02:25:36.000 They're not going to say aliens are real.

02:25:37.000 They're not going to say aliens are here.

02:25:39.000 They're not going to say we've been in contact with aliens or that we have recovered UFOs.

02:25:43.000 They're not going to say we've reverse engineered anything or that they have alien bodies.

02:25:46.000 And they sure as hell aren't going to say UFOs are a threat.

02:25:51.000 That's what I think.

02:25:52.000 Yeah, that's a good prediction.

02:25:54.000 I would agree with that.

02:25:55.000 Seems very, very likely.

02:25:57.000 This is my seventh call, I think, and probably the fourth time I've talked about aliens.

02:26:00.000 I swear I'm not a nerd.

02:26:01.000 Keep doing it.

02:26:03.000 This is one of my favorite topics.

02:26:06.000 There's things I can say and things I cannot say.

02:26:09.000 So that's about all you're getting out of me.

02:26:11.000 Wow.

02:26:11.000 I want to hear more.

02:26:13.000 Well, I think that's the most right, I would say.

02:26:18.000 I think you have the best idea, the best prediction that I've heard so far.

02:26:20.000 Thing.

02:26:21.000 We don't know what it is.

02:26:22.000 Redacted, redacted.

02:26:23.000 The real.

02:26:24.000 Here's videos.

02:26:25.000 We don't know what it is or where it comes from.

02:26:25.000 People have witnessed them.

02:26:27.000 And we don't have anything else to say.

02:26:28.000 Have a nice day.

02:26:28.000 Thank you.

02:26:29.000 And then six months later, they go, We do believe that they may be non human intelligence, but we're not sure.

02:26:35.000 Six months later, they go, We now believe it is non human intelligence visiting us.

02:26:39.000 Then people start seeing them six months later.

02:26:41.000 Then for a year, people are spotting them all over the place and people kind of get bored of them.

02:26:45.000 You know, something like that.

02:26:46.000 And then you load up Chrome, your browser, or Brave if you're using it, and it's totally hijacked by an alien, but it's actually AI.

02:26:54.000 They're like building it up towards when super intelligence goes critical.

02:26:58.000 Maybe.

02:27:00.000 Yeah.

02:27:01.000 Maybe.

02:27:01.000 Do you want anything else or should I shout anything out?

02:27:05.000 Yeah, just a couple quick things.

02:27:07.000 So it's fun for me that the Hantavirus is in the news because I actually am a Hantavirus survivor, and I'll be happy to talk about it during the after show.

02:27:15.000 So.

02:27:16.000 Stick around for that.

02:27:18.000 And then, if I'm going to plug anything, my dear, dear friend, Adam Johnson, the lectern guy, you should go donate to his campaign at voteadamjohnson.com.

02:27:27.000 And I think everyone who watches your show is familiar with him.

02:27:30.000 And then, other than that, you can follow me on Twitter.

02:27:33.000 I'm Angry Fat White Guy, white spelled YT. 0.53

02:27:35.000 So that's all I got, guys.

02:27:37.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:27:38.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:27:40.000 Next up, we've got Empyrean Paladin.

02:27:44.000 Is that what that is?

02:27:46.000 Yes, it is.

02:27:47.000 Hello.

02:27:47.000 Long time listener, first time caller.

02:27:50.000 Excellent.

02:27:51.000 What's going on, brother?

02:27:53.000 I had a question for my local Florida man, Oren, and the rest of the gang.

02:27:59.000 So, do you think it's possible for the right to retake the universities and education from the left?

02:28:06.000 And.

02:28:08.000 Well, answer that part of that.

02:28:10.000 Yeah, if you have a follow up, let Oren answer that and then go in with your next adjunct.

02:28:18.000 I think it's possible if you're willing to.

02:28:21.000 Strip the system down and rebuild it from the ground up.

02:28:23.000 I don't think the idea that you're going to like legislate teachers or college professors into teaching something specific is ever going to work.

02:28:32.000 They'll always find a way around it, they'll always subvert the system.

02:28:36.000 So I think you would need to have the, you know, just stones to go in there and basically rip this thing out and root and branch and then build up new faculties, build up new systems.

02:28:47.000 That's the only way you'd actually get control of it.

02:28:49.000 If you're just trying to do this piecemeal thing, it's not going to work.

02:28:53.000 Yep.

02:28:54.000 Well, the second part of that was should we try and make a parallel system of parallel institutions?

02:29:03.000 I think you should always do that.

02:29:04.000 We need to understand that a lot of people say, oh, conservatives don't go to college, don't do this, don't do that.

02:29:11.000 The problem is elites actually drive political outcomes.

02:29:15.000 So if you don't have conservative lawyers, doctors, people in powerful positions, then that doesn't work.

02:29:22.000 Plumbers are awesome, plumbers are great, but they're never going to get you a Supreme Court ruling.

02:29:26.000 On the other side of that, like you should build these parallel systems because if you don't have anything to replace the corrupt stuff we already have, then once you disassemble it, it doesn't work.

02:29:35.000 So it's kind of you need to do both.

02:29:37.000 You need some level of entryism in the current system, and then you need to develop parallel systems simultaneously so there's something to switch over to.

02:29:43.000 Do you think it's reasonable to utilize AI as like a schooling tactic?

02:29:48.000 I think AI is a phenomenal way to ensure that no one ever learns anything ever again.

02:29:55.000 When I was teaching kids, Treated Google basically as already like this magic eight ball that told them everything.

02:30:01.000 That was their entire epistemological understanding.

02:30:04.000 And when you just turn all of your thinking over to AI, what you're actually doing is turning it over to whoever makes AI, which is what Frank Herbert said in Dune, anyway.

02:30:14.000 I found if you ask the right questions, AI can be a good teacher.

02:30:19.000 AI, of course, can summarize things for you and that kind of thing.

02:30:23.000 But if you've ever actually asked AI things, it lies to you all the time.

02:30:26.000 And if you don't know about the subject you're asking about, you're just learning the lies.

02:30:31.000 So basically, you already need to have a high degree of knowledge in an area to truly utilize the aggregating ability of AI.

02:30:39.000 Which most people don't have.

02:30:40.000 They just see whatever it puts in front of them and they say, oh, that's it.

02:30:43.000 And in the schooling system, it's vetted because you could do the same thing, could happen at a school where the teachers just tell you the wrong information and you believe it.

02:30:50.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

02:30:51.000 But the problem with AI is that people don't even doubt it in the way that they doubt teachers or other authorities.

02:30:57.000 They think of it as some kind of neutral force.

02:30:59.000 And this is a general problem with modernity.

02:31:01.000 We want to avoid human responsibility by putting it on automated systems and thinking that somehow removes bias.

02:31:07.000 Oh, well, it's a constitution, it's a computer, it does its own.

02:31:10.000 It does what it's programmed to do, not what we tell it to do.

02:31:12.000 I'm not ruled by man.

02:31:14.000 I'm ruled by a computer or a set of values.

02:31:16.000 No, you're always ruled by people.

02:31:18.000 It's always people making these decisions.

02:31:19.000 They're always deciding what goes into the computer or the constitution or whatever.

02:31:23.000 And real quick, I think a real great example of how AI will destroy us.

02:31:27.000 Have you seen the videos where they say we had ChatGPT recreate this image 100 times?

02:31:31.000 And it's not, yeah, it's like the worst thing ever.

02:31:35.000 And then they show you each new frame it generates. 0.99

02:31:37.000 And by the end, it's a fat Mexican woman eating a watermelon. 1.00

02:31:39.000 Right. 1.00

02:31:40.000 Yeah, like.

02:31:41.000 That's what's happening.

02:31:42.000 So these kids will go on to AI and say, I, you know, write me up an outline for a report on the history of Rome.

02:31:48.000 It'll get some facts wrong.

02:31:49.000 They'll write it up.

02:31:51.000 It'll get the teacher will take it and then run it through the AI, and the AI will say, Yep, all good.

02:31:55.000 And they'll give it a good grade.

02:31:56.000 AI is already a cataclysm for education at scale because teachers relied on like, you know, these systems of grade scans and automated tests and everything else.

02:32:07.000 And all the kids are just using AI to like write all their essays and cheat on all their stuff.

02:32:10.000 And the teachers are using AI to figure out.

02:32:12.000 Exactly.

02:32:12.000 To correct it.

02:32:13.000 Because that's the only way they can keep up with the scale.

02:32:15.000 The scale is the problem, and no one's going to address that problem.

02:32:18.000 No, in fact, they're going the other way, right?

02:32:20.000 I mean, you have a lot of even conservative people in education saying that we need more AI in education.

02:32:26.000 Because they think it eliminates the human element of the liberal problem.

02:32:30.000 They're wrong.

02:32:31.000 They're totally wrong.

02:32:32.000 We're going to sell ourselves slavery to these models by telling them they free us from our previous systems, which they absolutely do not.

02:32:40.000 No, they make it worse.

02:32:41.000 And the thing, too, is the people that were programming the AI.

02:32:44.000 Like, they are the ones, they all came through these same completely corrupt institutions and have these bogus ideas because they didn't actually learn anything other than how to code.

02:32:54.000 Yeah.

02:32:54.000 At some point, you actually just have to go with human virtue.

02:32:57.000 And since we built our entire system to avoid faulty systems of human virtue, we basically have closed ourselves up from all actual natural organic ways to solve this problem.

02:33:08.000 So, when you say it's a problem of scale, you're indicating that putting 100 people in a classroom and giving them one teacher is like a.

02:33:15.000 If a parent is educating their child and using AI as an assistant, that would be a better use.

02:33:19.000 In fact, you're hitting a position where, unless you get like one to one or one to like maybe four monitoring, education is going to basically become impossible.

02:33:28.000 Yeah, we used to have pod learning.

02:33:30.000 It was called Play Group.

02:33:31.000 And every week we'd go to a different parent's house and it'd be like four or six kids, four kids, really four kids.

02:33:36.000 That was how we, that was a lot of our learning and socialization in addition to schooling, you know, the central authority.

02:33:41.000 Yeah.

02:33:42.000 Okay.

02:33:43.000 The way that you used to handle scale was.

02:33:45.000 Passing the responsibility between different responsible virtuous actors inside your society, and instead, what we tried to do was automate it.

02:33:53.000 And as soon as we did that, we lost control of the human element.

02:33:56.000 And therefore, we opened ourselves up to all of the issues that we consistently run into when we're attempting to deal with scale.

02:34:05.000 I have more questions.

02:34:06.000 Do you guys homeschool?

02:34:07.000 Do you homeschool?

02:34:08.000 Yes.

02:34:09.000 That's pretty cool.

02:34:10.000 Do you use AI?

02:34:11.000 Not really.

02:34:13.000 Collar, did you have a follow up? 0.58

02:34:16.000 I got a fun Mongo I can tell you about that deals with the alien disclosure and the illegal immigrant problem.

02:34:26.000 I got a fun manga I can tell you about.

02:34:28.000 Full Metal Alchemist.

02:34:29.000 It's really great.

02:34:30.000 It's a great classic.

02:34:31.000 But there's this manga called Drama Queen.

02:34:34.000 Big Trigon?

02:34:35.000 Yeah.

02:34:35.000 Big Trigon.

02:34:37.000 Drama Queen? 0.99

02:34:37.000 What'd you call it? 0.99

02:34:39.000 Yep.

02:34:40.000 So Drama Queen is about how aliens allegedly saved the earth from a meteor. 0.99

02:34:46.000 And now they're coming in as this privileged class of migrants who are treated better than everyone else. 0.56

02:34:54.000 And it's about how the two main characters are a guy who lost his.

02:34:59.000 Family to a drunk alien driver and it got covered up, and a sociopath who finds out that, uh, well, she likes the taste of alien.

02:35:13.000 So, uh, the one guy kills the aliens and she eats them. 0.88

02:35:18.000 Yeah.

02:35:19.000 Wow.

02:35:20.000 I'm like, leave it to them.

02:35:21.000 It's actually been pretty funny and entertaining. 1.00

02:35:24.000 I was gonna say, leave it to the Japanese. 1.00

02:35:25.000 I just assumed that was a Japanese thing. 0.98

02:35:27.000 Yeah.

02:35:28.000 The thing is, a lot of it seems very topical reading through it. 1.00

02:35:34.000 Yeah, Naruto was really good and they got retarded at the end. 0.99

02:35:38.000 And now, uh, Baruto is also retarded, unfortunately. 1.00

02:35:42.000 Have you seen that one where the chicken is the samurai? 0.99

02:35:46.000 Oh, I've heard of it.

02:35:47.000 Yeah.

02:35:47.000 It's strange.

02:35:48.000 Yeah, that seems kind of funny, though. 0.99

02:35:50.000 Uh, you want to shout anything out other than weird Japanese porn? 0.99

02:35:54.000 I think that's, uh, Ian's job. 1.00

02:36:00.000 Okay.

02:36:01.000 Thank you.

02:36:02.000 Uh, but, uh, thank you guys for all your hard work and being the sincere actors and the, uh, Community, thanks for calling in, brother.

02:36:02.000 I'll take it.

02:36:11.000 Have a good one, Florida.

02:36:11.000 Thanks for having me.

02:36:12.000 Thank you.

02:36:13.000 Yeah, someone in the chat mentioned Cowboy Bebop, which is really unfortunate that it only got 24 episodes.

02:36:19.000 Yeah, the music, plague doctor.

02:36:21.000 What's up?

02:36:22.000 And the story was great, the characters were great. 0.98

02:36:24.000 And then the Netflix series was fucking dumb, but I guess it got canceled because they could, they're like, it's too violent. 0.98

02:36:31.000 We don't want to go that way. 0.99

02:36:32.000 Oh, it's wonderful.

02:36:34.000 At some level, it's usually good that those things end a little early, they don't have to fall off.

02:36:38.000 That's how Seinfeld felt about his show, plague doc.

02:36:40.000 What up?

02:36:44.000 Just one question, but considering the whole Hanta virus, and it's actually endemic from my country, and usually these cases every year.

02:36:52.000 Wait, wait, wait, let me slow it so because of your accent, your audio clipped and the accent was a little thick, so I had a hard time understanding.

02:36:59.000 But say that again Hansa's from your home country?

02:37:03.000 Hanta is also in my home country.

02:37:07.000 Your audio is like clipping.

02:37:08.000 If you could speak a little closer, it's coming in and out.

02:37:10.000 Yeah.

02:37:12.000 This problem of the internet in Australia is terrible.

02:37:15.000 Perfect.

02:37:16.000 Okay, I think we got you.

02:37:17.000 Yeah.

02:37:19.000 You know, go for it.

02:37:24.000 Yeah.

02:37:25.000 Okay.

02:37:26.000 So, considering that people, there is the old motto of don't let a good crisis go to waste, how do you think it will play in the next election and what is the probability they will begin to blow it up out of the proportions or the election cycle?

02:37:41.000 I mean, immediately, day one, I saw someone at Polymarket, somebody tweeted out that they're now looking into a vaccine for Hantavirus.

02:37:50.000 It's fake news.

02:37:50.000 That's fake.

02:37:51.000 Could be fake news.

02:37:52.000 They've been working on all these.

02:37:54.000 This is what people do.

02:37:55.000 I'm so sick of the internet, bro.

02:37:56.000 Yeah, but beware of opportunistic capitalists that see a virus and they want to capitalize on it.

02:38:01.000 They've been working on the Hantavirus vaccines for a long time because it's been around for decades.

02:38:05.000 Won't deny it, but when it gets into the news, they might get more funding for it.

02:38:09.000 I don't know.

02:38:10.000 I don't know.

02:38:11.000 Sure, maybe.

02:38:13.000 You'll get Congress to pass a bill or something.

02:38:15.000 We do need to protect against that.

02:38:18.000 What other ways were you thinking that they would be prepping people for something?

02:38:23.000 What were you thinking?

02:38:27.000 So far, at the beginning, we.

02:38:32.000 Oh, man, you're on your.

02:38:33.000 You're cutting out, man.

02:38:34.000 We can barely hear you.

02:38:36.000 You're not.

02:38:38.000 The Hantavirus is zoonotic, so it implies that it's only transmitted from mice, not from rats, not from human to human.

02:38:48.000 I think that the propaganda can be strong, like saying there is human to human transmission.

02:38:54.000 Oh, you think they're playing up the human to human thing, but it's actually from mouse poop?

02:38:57.000 Yeah.

02:38:58.000 You said it's not from rats, it's from mice?

02:39:01.000 It's right.

02:39:02.000 I guess the real question is like, would they ever have the credibility to try to do another global lockdown again?

02:39:08.000 Like, would you force that was a one time flex of power, or is that like something that's reproducible?

02:39:15.000 I don't think I've done that again.

02:39:17.000 Yeah, that's the real question.

02:39:19.000 Even if whether the viruses are real or fake, the more important question is are the systems of control replicable?

02:39:25.000 Yeah, like real talk, we're out of the WHO, as far as I know, we're totally out of it. 0.61

02:39:29.000 And like, if the world wants to shut down, fucking let them, let the US stay open and dominate even harder. 0.72

02:39:35.000 Whatever. 0.97

02:39:36.000 No, it's a real question.

02:39:37.000 Yeah.

02:39:38.000 Even if 40% of people are dying?

02:39:40.000 Well, no.

02:39:41.000 If 40% of the people are dying, all hands on.

02:39:43.000 That's why I said comply or not comply doesn't matter in Honda virus.

02:39:46.000 40% of people dead means you'd look out the window and see corpses everywhere and be like, I ain't going outside.

02:39:49.000 Well, it's not about choice.

02:39:50.000 Yeah.

02:39:51.000 People would probably self-quarantine themselves.

02:39:55.000 Well, that was the fascinating thing about COVID: people treated it like that's what was happening because they weren't allowed to go outside.

02:40:02.000 So they couldn't make contact with what was really going on.

02:40:06.000 So people treated it as if it would instantly kill you the minute it got out there.

02:40:09.000 You'd catch it, and then you walked outside, and they had that level of deception.

02:40:14.000 But people were really dropping dead at that rate in the street.

02:40:16.000 But we also kept getting those videos from China that everyone showed people, like, presumably dropping dead.

02:40:23.000 Getting welded into their homes.

02:40:25.000 So remember the video of the wailing people wailing in the city?

02:40:28.000 Like a guy with his camera from the.

02:40:31.000 I don't even know if it was real.

02:40:32.000 Terrible.

02:40:33.000 Yeah, and who knows?

02:40:34.000 Well, now imagine what they're going to do with AI videos. 0.62

02:40:37.000 If everyone's quarantined again, all the boomers would be absolutely one shot. 0.87

02:40:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:40:42.000 The mask wearing a mask was the grossest.

02:40:45.000 It was one of the grossest things I've ever had to go. 0.99

02:40:47.000 Really disgusting smelling your own fecal breath. 0.99

02:40:49.000 Like that, dude, you have fecal bacteria that grows in the back of your throat after you eat. 0.99

02:40:53.000 It's putrefactive, cadaverine, and putrescine. 1.00

02:40:56.000 And just breathing that shit into the mask and then re it was so fucking nasty and hurt so many people. 1.00

02:41:01.000 I'm no, no, I'm ready for that shit. 1.00

02:41:04.000 Yeah, that was gross. 1.00

02:41:07.000 Yeah, do you have a follow up, ma'am?

02:41:10.000 Yeah, no, I just wanted to shout out like Phil Levante, hopefully.

02:41:15.000 Sadly, he's not here, so he can keep, probably he's keeping those free helicopter rides going.

02:41:22.000 Keeping the what?

02:41:23.000 Kill helicopter rides. 0.98

02:41:23.000 The what? 0.98

02:41:24.000 He's killing communists. 0.98

02:41:26.000 I mean, transporting communists. 0.99

02:41:28.000 Where they belong.

02:41:30.000 Into the middle of the Pacific.

02:41:32.000 Yeah, they're good swimmers. 0.75

02:41:33.000 Communists are known for their swimming. 0.96

02:41:34.000 Yeah, Soviet. 0.69

02:41:35.000 Lots of medals, slash steroids.

02:41:37.000 Thank you very much.

02:41:38.000 You want to shout anything out?

02:41:39.000 No, that's for real.

02:41:41.000 Thank you very much.

02:41:42.000 Thanks, dude.

02:41:42.000 All right.

02:41:43.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:41:45.000 All right.

02:41:47.000 It's been fun, everybody.

02:41:48.000 Tomorrow, Sam Nunnberg will be joining us.

02:41:51.000 Next week's going to get crazy because we're having a bunch of these pastors come in.

02:41:53.000 Brett Weinstein's going to be joining us as well, so it's going to be a lot of fun.

02:41:56.000 And it's going to be great.

02:41:58.000 It's going to be great.

02:41:58.000 Thank you all so much for hanging out.

02:41:59.000 We're back tomorrow morning, of course.

02:42:01.000 Aaron, always great to have you.

02:42:03.000 Absolutely.

02:42:03.000 Thanks for having me again, man.

02:42:04.000 Absolutely.

02:42:04.000 And we'll see you all tomorrow.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - May 07, 2026

HANTAVIRUS PANDEMIC PANIC, Human To Human Spread Feared | Timcast IRL

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