Breitbart's own Joel Pollack joins us to discuss the Kamala Harris pre-recorded interview with CNN's Tim Waltz, and why it's so important that we roast her. Plus, pro-lifers don't have any loyalty to Trump, and he wants the government to pay for IVF.
00:00:14.000The big news, the only thing anyone cares about is that Kamala Harris did a pre-recorded 18-minute interview with Tim Waltz, and that's like the headline.
00:00:22.000And I'm sitting here being like, is this really the big story?
00:00:24.000I mean, there's a bunch of little stories, there's a bunch of small stories, but the big political one that everyone wants to talk about is that Kamala Harris did an 18-minute pre-recorded interview, and it's just completely meaningless.
00:00:34.000Except for the fact that we get to rag on her, and she's already getting roasted, because in a preview clip published by CNN, she says that her values haven't changed, despite flip-flopping on literally every position and adopting Donald Trump's positions.
00:00:47.000So, at the very least, we get to roast her.
00:00:50.000Now, that interview will be airing later tonight, but we do have a clip from it, so we'll talk about that.
00:00:53.000Now, Donald Trump has proposed 10 questions, and they're pretty good.
00:00:56.000Basically, it's like, if you're going to fix the economy, why aren't you doing it now?
00:01:01.000You've been in office for three and a half years.
00:01:02.000And I really don't think Dana Bash over at CNN is going to ask any real questions, nor, honestly, do I even care.
00:01:37.000And I think his position on this is right.
00:01:41.000But we'll talk about it and we'll get into why that should be the case or what he's actually suggesting about it.
00:01:47.000And there are still many pro-lifers basically saying, we don't have any loyalty to Trump.
00:01:51.000We will not support him unless he is anti-abortion, which is like, Okay, I don't know who else you're going to vote for, but we'll talk about it.
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00:02:44.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Joel Pollack.
00:03:21.000What can he offer people to get them over this obsession with the court cases and the polls and the pundits and Kamala Harris's CNN interview?
00:03:27.000And just talk to people about what you're going to do and what you can deliver.
00:03:31.000And I visualized that moment and immediately I realized the media narrative was going to shift as soon as he took the oath of office.
00:03:38.000They want to talk about the candidates for 2028.
00:05:37.000Kamala Harris says, quote, my values haven't changed in first interview as the candidate despite flip-flopping on many of her policies since 2020.
00:05:46.000I don't care to play it for the most part, but CNN is running this preview, so... ...look at some of the changes that you've made, that you've explained some of here, in your policy.
00:05:59.000Is it because you have more experience now and you've learned more about the information?
00:06:04.000Is it because you were running for president in a Democratic primary?
00:06:08.000And should they feel comfortable and confident that what you're saying now is going to be your policy moving forward?
00:06:15.000Dana, I think the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective and decisions is my values have not changed.
00:06:24.000I don't want to listen to any more of this.
00:06:27.000We were getting asked, like, are you guys going to play the interview on the show?
00:06:31.000It was live, I would watch it, but pre-recorded, I feel like it's gonna be edited.
00:06:34.000Like that, it seemed like they cut to her talking and not, that wasn't like, didn't feel like a flow.
00:06:39.000Well, she had to look at Tim Walls and he was like, it's okay, you can do it.
00:06:42.000And she said, my values haven't changed.
00:06:44.000And she looked back at him for support.
00:06:46.000I don't think we should rag on Kamala Harris for this.
00:06:49.000I think we should say that's very honorable of you, Vice President Harris, that your views have not changed and that you will so strongly assert that you are for the Green New Deal and open borders and decriminalizing border crossings and providing health care to illegal immigrants and that you're in favor of, you know, Bidenomics and these policies.
00:07:09.000So everything now That has gone wrong, that you and Medicare for All, don't forget, all the things that you're supporting and have support and your views haven't changed.
00:07:18.000Well, that makes you an inviolable candidate.
00:07:21.000I wonder how she feels about the Venezuelan gangs overrunning Colorado.
00:08:24.000And this is a much more informal set, but when you're running for president, you know, if you look in the background in the CNN set, they have all these coffee mugs strewn about.
00:08:56.000I mean, in contrast, Dana is in this like bright purple suit sitting a little bit back from the table.
00:09:01.000She just looks like she has more presence and that's not great when you're the person conducting the interview and you're sort of outshining the, I guess, presidential hopeful in the room.
00:09:09.000What Obama always did was sit in an armchair.
00:09:13.000You know, you want the Full view of the candidate, but also the kind of informality that you can get, you can move, you can change positions.
00:09:20.000We don't see her doing anything there.
00:09:22.000She's basically just peering over the side of the table.
00:09:24.000I think it would be absolutely amazing if she just embraced like a super villain arc.
00:09:28.000Just dark rings under her eyes, talks about just...
00:09:34.000All of these policies as bluntly and as honestly as possible?
00:09:37.000Well, honestly, we're just going to keep the border open and let millions of people flood into the country.
00:09:45.000And then we'll put them in your schools and your homes, displace you, and we'll defund the police so that you have to deal with the crime that ensues in your neighborhoods.
00:09:51.000And then after the system collapses, we'll create a communist system in its place.
00:10:19.000The Pride progress flag is no different than the Nazi flag.
00:10:25.000The swastika at the time, before the Germans, swastikas were all over the United States.
00:10:31.000Go to Chicago, you'll see buildings with swastikas built into the bricks, and they have to cover them up.
00:10:36.000Famously, in the south side of Chicago, there's a building, I think you can actually Google search it, where they had a swastika built into the bricks, because it's pre-World War II, and then they hammered wood into the gaps to make it into a square.
00:12:23.000Yeah, you don't have to tell people to be joyful.
00:12:25.000If things are good, they become joyful by nature.
00:12:28.000You don't get up on stage and say, we're going to focus on joy, and everyone's like, I feel like that's when there's a bunch of smiling and laughing.
00:12:35.000Haven't you ever seen the Ren and Stimpy Happy Happy Joy Joy?
00:14:44.000Yeah, but they had beer and local coffee, and they had souvenirs, and they had local religious groups talking to people, and... And they had outdoor podcasts in 100-degree weather for some reason, but hey, man, you know, they were ready.
00:14:56.000Have you pulled up and, like, really shown people the Strength Through Joy Nazi campaign?
00:15:55.000Which, you know, in a lot of ways is a more optimistic word, the same way joy would be.
00:15:58.000She's just trying to adapt some sort of short slogan and then position herself as this, like, you know, hardworking, comes from, you know, a more challenging upbringing person who's got this sort of derpy white guy with her.
00:16:11.000And she's going to, you know, make the White House fun again or whatever Obama allegedly did.
00:17:13.000Family time like the greatest moments of like hugging your your mom because she got you that gift that you've always wanted Things like that.
00:17:23.000Yeah love and joy I feel it sometimes when I'm playing music like while I'm like like really my body starts to like sway with like vibration I'm like There's some sort of, but that more isn't like ecstasy than joy.
00:17:35.000Force is swirling from the center of the earth again.
00:17:39.000Thomas Hobbes had this incredible idea, which is that happiness over a long period of time has its own noun, which he called felicity.
00:17:48.000So that was the aim of the well-governed society was to experience felicity, which was a kind of higher level of happiness because it was so sustained.
00:17:56.000It wasn't the huge intense excitement of winning a World Series.
00:18:02.000I know they didn't play baseball then, but it wasn't that intense.
00:18:06.000It was childbirth sort of joy, but it was good fortune over a long period of time.
00:18:11.000And I think, although he doesn't articulate it this way, I think that what Trump is offering is that and saying, you can create your own happiness in my vision of America.
00:18:22.000Whereas Kamala Harris is saying, let's all get together and do this thing together and do the joy together.
00:18:40.000Did you guys ever hear about that dancing plague?
00:18:42.000It's like a legend, where all these people were on a bridge in medieval Europe, and they started dancing, and they couldn't stop, and they died or something.
00:18:51.000All I know is there's this story where people started dancing, and then there was a mass hysteria where people just couldn't stop dancing, and they were losing their minds, and then they all died.
00:19:06.000I mean, we call it mass formation psychosis.
00:19:08.000So there was this great novel by Norman Rush called Mating, which is a romance novel, but he makes this incredible political point, which is that the left lives for what he calls the insurrectionary moment.
00:19:20.000The moment where the riot happens and you break through the doors of the jailhouse or you tear down the fence.
00:19:28.000Pull down the flag from the flagpole, and it's that moment of rebellion, and that's the joy, that's the ecstatic momentary joy, and then you don't know what to do after that.
00:19:34.000So he's like, these socialists live for the insurrectionary moment, that moment of ecstasy when the group is doing something transgressive, and that's exciting, but the hard stuff of governing and trying to run a society, they can't do, and you can't do it if you're trying to do it for everybody.
00:19:50.000Let's pull up this story from the post-millennial.
00:19:52.000Trump campaign proposes 10 questions for Kamala's first interview since taking over the Democratic nomination for president.
00:19:58.000It's no coincidence that Kamala's first interview is scheduled for the Thursday night before Labor Day weekend.
00:20:04.000They already hope it gets lost and it hasn't even aired yet.
00:20:06.000And I will confirm this, having worked in marketing.
00:20:18.000Tomorrow, I know this because we're packing, tomorrow they're gonna be sitting there staring at their watch waiting for the day to end so they can get in their car and try and beat traffic because it's Labor Day weekend and they're gonna be getting out of here.
00:20:27.000PSA was predicting today is the busiest travel day of the year.
00:20:45.000Because Ian can control the weather, and he was talking about lightning crashing, and now here we are, Ian.
00:20:51.000You mentioned Labor Day and how people are actually treating it like Leisure Day, and I'm like, yo, that day is supposed to be about work and focus and all these people trying to dip out and get out of town is like, what is this?
00:21:01.000The truth is Ian can't control the weather.
00:21:02.000I actually checked the forecast a couple days ago and they predicted thunderstorms tonight, so we prepared for it.
00:21:07.000I kind of want the rain now because I think the plants need it.
00:21:10.000I've been looking around at the greenery and it's like, I can get it away if you want.
00:21:14.000Anyway, let's talk about the questions that Trump's asking.
00:21:17.000The first is, if you are capable of lowering prices for Americans, why haven't you done it in the three and a half years you've been in office?
00:21:23.000You say housing affordability would be a day one priority.
00:21:50.000It's also just part of the shared consciousness of joy.
00:21:54.000It was this weird, creepy, almost cult-like, to use a word they often throw at Trump supporters, cult-like, the leader is fine, everything will be fine.
00:22:54.000It is a great question, in part because I think Harris is trying to distance herself really rapidly from Biden, which that's whose name she's been hanging out with for the last three years.
00:23:05.000So she could hypothetically say, oh, the things that we have done this past year for, I don't know, whatever.
00:23:11.000Small businesses in America for LGBTQ rights.
00:23:13.000I'm very proud of my abortion tour, but all of that would be tied to the Biden-Harris campaign, which she doesn't want to be part of.
00:23:21.000I saw this clip of an interview that someone did with Ben Stiller, the actor, where he was saying he's excited about Harris because it's time for a change.
00:23:28.000You realize she's currently in the White House, yes?
00:23:31.000These people don't pay attention to anything.
00:23:33.000But, you know, my response with the The question, because I hear it asked a lot, you know, what is Kamala Harris' greatest accomplishment?
00:23:39.000You'd think for someone who's been VP for three and a half years, she'd have done something.
00:23:46.000She cast the tie-breaking vote for the Inflation Reduction Act, which failed, and prices have gotten worse, which she complains about and says she wants to fix.
00:23:58.000So the important thing is, If people actually knew what our accomplishments were—in fact, I recommend this to, you know, like to Elad or to James Kluge.
00:24:38.000She also cast a tie-breaking vote for the America Rescue Plan, which was the initial massive spending that Biden added on top of the spending that hadn't yet gone out the door from the Trump administration.
00:24:48.000So, in my view, and other people, including economists, share this view, that was what really kicked off the inflationary spiral.
00:24:55.000And then the Inflation Reduction Act was deliberately misnamed.
00:25:16.000And yeah, she cast a lot of tie-breaking votes.
00:25:19.000She had a 50-50 Senate, basically, for a lot of the time she's been vice president, so she had more opportunities to cast tie-breaking votes, but she cast the tie-breaking vote for a lot of bad things.
00:25:30.000So if you list those things, right, that's... And she's proud of them, as she says she's proud of them, but they did bad things.
00:25:35.000So the Inflation Reduction Act, which is cleverly named like most bills, was basically just a government spending package.
00:25:43.000It had some tax reforms, and it certainly did not do anything to reduce inflation.
00:26:08.000And then you hear in the news, Kamala Harris supported the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:26:11.000And as president, she will work to reduce prices.
00:26:14.000And that's exactly what they're going to do.
00:26:17.000And it's like saying, you know, Donkey Kong kidnapped the—imagine Donkey Kong kidnaps the princess, but once he's elected, he'll let her go.
00:28:46.000They want to raise a hundred million dollars, which means they're not going to go to a billionaire and say, you owe us a hundred million dollars, because Bezos or Musk is easily going to say, Let me call my lawyer.
00:28:56.000I promised my legal firm two million bucks.
00:28:58.000They're gonna get this bill tossed out and they're gonna make it so bad for you, it's not worth pursuing.
00:29:04.000Let's send a million people a demand letter for $100.
00:29:06.000Ain't no working class Joe's gonna hire a lawyer to stop the $100.
00:29:10.000And they're gonna sit there and they're gonna be stressed out and they're gonna be sweating bullets being like, I don't understand why I owe this money.
00:29:41.000What's funny about the bipartisan part is that the bill was like $1.2 trillion, I think.
00:29:47.000And when Trump suggested, as he came into office, that they should spend $1 trillion on infrastructure, Mitch McConnell was like, no, that's never passing.
00:29:54.000I'm never passing a $1 trillion infrastructure bill.
00:30:18.000But then the fossil fuel industry, being smart, got their lobbyists together.
00:30:22.000And now they are trying to get a piece of that seven and a half billion and saying,
00:30:26.000well, why don't you just build the EV stations at our existing gas stations?
00:30:30.000So they're now going to get heavily subsidized by this spending that was meant to replace them.
00:30:35.000I don't have a problem with it because I think we should have both options.
00:30:38.000I think drivers should have as many options as possible.
00:30:41.000But that's what happens in Washington.
00:30:43.000So all these interest groups play this game and the money just never goes to what it's supposed to unless you have someone like Trump whose whole mode of being is to cut through all this and just get stuff done.
00:30:54.000Do you guys think we should watch the Trump-Tulsi town hall?
00:30:58.000We should pull it up and check out some of it.
00:38:37.000I've heard this reporting that Democrats are nervous that the expectations for Kamala Harris during the debate are too high, and she's not going to be able to meet them.
00:38:48.000Yes, that is the candidate you picked.
00:38:50.000I mean, the bar is very close to the ground, but yeah, that's probably too high.
00:38:57.000Our country has the biggest problem the world has is nuclear weapons.
00:39:01.000They are a destructive force, the likes of which nobody has ever seen before.
00:39:07.000And we have to make sure they're never used.
00:39:09.000We have to make sure it's not going to happen.
00:39:11.000Talk about climate change, nuclear catastrophe.
00:39:19.000Ronald Reagan famously said, A nuclear war can never be won and should never be fought.
00:39:25.000And I think it's interesting you talked about climate change, Mr. President.
00:39:27.000The Democrats and Kamala Harris, they were quick to talk about how climate change is an existential threat.
00:39:34.000But what they're not talking about is the existential threat of nuclear war and World War III, which is exactly where we sit today because of the warmongers and their puppets, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
00:39:48.000And they don't want to talk about it because The consequence of where they have taken all of us, the American people and the world, is economic hardship around the world, destruction of our economic well-being, and an annihilation of humanity, our families, our kids, our communities.
00:40:22.000When I heard that, I felt so sad because they're at a point where they feel like this outcome, the annihilation of the world, is inevitable.
00:40:31.000So I wanted to ask you about this because it's important that Yep.
00:42:08.000I think Afghanistan, when he saw the horrible What he's saying resonates with a lot of people.
00:42:15.000I've been to Israel five times since October 7th, and Israelis are terrified of Trump losing, because they do feel like people feared Trump.
00:42:21.000I've been to Israel five times since October 7th.
00:42:25.000And Israelis are terrified of Trump losing because they do feel like people fear Trump.
00:42:59.000He's good at that, but the problem was he intimidated his own populace as well, so a lot of them didn't want to vote, but you gotta look past that.
00:43:05.000I think there's some truth to that, too.
00:43:11.000She was the first one to leave, you know.
00:44:30.000I followed her around during that campaign in 2019 because she didn't make it to 2020.
00:44:34.000And the level of malpractice in the campaign was unbelievable.
00:44:39.000Just terrible decisions, awful event staging, zero policy consistency.
00:44:45.000She had also made mistakes two years before in her Senate campaign where they had all this money and they blew through it on first-class tickets and high-end hotels and they were almost out of money early in the race.
00:44:55.000She just can't manage a campaign very well.
00:47:59.000I don't know if we can get a mic to Bernardo.
00:48:02.000He's got an important question given very soon we will be honoring the anniversary of September 11th and all of the lives that were lost on that tragic day in that tragic attack where we were attacked by radical Islamist terrorists and Bernardo wanted to share.
00:48:21.000There are no restrictions on abortion in Minnesota.
00:50:26.000But we had none four years of it because they respected your president, they respected your country, and we have to bring back that level of respect.
00:50:45.000I know you have run out of time here, but thank you for having this conversation with the people of Wisconsin and people across the country who are watching and concerned about these very same issues.
00:50:56.000They're wrapping up, so we'll wrap up.
00:50:57.000But we will jump to a story that I see people have been asking us about.
00:51:00.000And so earlier on, we'll get the story right here.
00:51:14.000They say that former President Donald Trump said in an interview,
00:51:16.000If elected, his administration would not only protect access to in vitro fertilization,
00:51:21.000but would have either the government or insurance companies cover the cost of the expensive
00:51:24.000service for American women who need it.
00:51:27.000We are going to be under the Trump administration.
00:51:28.000We are going to be paying for that treatment.
00:51:30.000We're going to be mandating the insurance company pay.
00:51:33.000Asked to clarify whether the government would pay for IVF services or whether insurance companies would do so, Trump reiterated that one option would be to have the insurance companies pay under a mandate.
00:51:46.000First thing I'm going to say about this.
00:51:48.000This is a low-tier issue that will move the needle barely.
00:51:52.000But Trump is pulling off a big ask maneuver.
00:51:56.000By saying he wants the government to pay for IVF, he is trying to cut off Democrats' ability to say that he wants to ban IVF.
00:52:06.000At the same time, no one's going to choose to vote or not vote for Trump based on IVF.
00:52:10.000This policy will likely never happen, but what he's basically doing is jumping over the Democrats' attack and saying, what are they saying?
00:53:01.000If there are people who are here, who meet certain guidelines, certain restrictions, and with a limited number of availability, we should absolutely allow people to work here if they graduated from these universities, because we don't want people coming to our universities, developing IP, or getting access to our IP, and then going back to China to develop those companies.
00:53:22.000Is the number a thousand people per year or some low number?
00:53:24.000It just means Trump is correct, but there's got to be restrictions.
00:53:28.000Now, when it comes to the IVF thing, it can't be for... it should be only in necessity.
00:53:35.000A couple that is dealing with fertility issues that are struggling to conceive, who meet certain requirements, will have, in my opinion, it is a good policy, and I am not a conservative, a government-covered or insurance company-covered IVF.
00:53:48.000Our birth rates are way too low and they're below replacement.
00:53:52.000So, I'm not a laissez-faire libertarian, no government, no taxes.
00:53:56.000I actually think there are certain things we can do as a society, and we should do.
00:54:00.000And I certainly think this, on the surface level, needs to be explored.
00:54:05.000But if the idea is the United States is a birthrate below replacement, that is apocalyptic, then I am absolutely in favor of IVF treatments for people who need it.
00:54:14.000But need is the... I'll be honest, man, I kind of agree with you.
00:54:18.000I'm into social programs, certain ones.
00:54:19.000Like, they're very, very good in the right usages.
00:54:23.000You know, the fire department's phenomenal.
00:54:24.000And it's hard to be in the right usages.
00:54:26.000Yeah, but helping pregnancies is maybe, you know...
00:54:28.000I think the problem is that IVF has now been lumped in with abortion the way that birth control got lumped in with abortion.
00:54:35.000And I don't think those three things are exactly the same in any way, even though Democrats will lump them under the overhead of women's rights, women's reproductive rights.
00:54:44.000IVF, infertility, the birth rate, really important conversations to have.
00:54:48.000And I think that there are tremendous consequences to the conception of embryos outside the womb.
00:54:56.000On the other hand, It's not the same thing as having an abortion.
00:55:00.000People who are seeking abortions are probably not also seeking IVF, so we should stop sewing them together like they're one thing.
00:55:05.000And I also feel similarly about birth control, right?
00:55:07.000I think if you want to take the birth control pill, that's a different conversation than, I have now become pregnant and I would maybe like to terminate the life of this baby.
00:55:14.000Well the reason those things are conflated is deliberate.
00:55:16.000So Democrats are using IVF to talk about abortion without talking about killing a baby.
00:55:23.000Now they're talking about having babies.
00:55:24.000It's the same idea in a sense that there's a radical ability to do whatever you want with pregnancy but they're talking about babies in a positive way.
00:55:34.000It's a brilliant attack and it is one that Republicans have to respond to because IVF goes to not just the Women, but also the idea of family.
00:55:47.000And there are many, many working women who are putting off pregnancy and want to know that they can still have babies in their forties or whatever.
00:56:08.000So Trump can come in and he can issue regulations immediately or an executive order to HHS, Health and Human Services, to explore regulations that would allow insurance companies to begin to offer coverage for fertility treatments, which are typically paid out of pocket.
00:56:22.000So it's not that every insurance policy has to offer it.
00:56:25.000And I don't think businesses should be saddled with the huge insurance costs.
00:56:30.000But maybe you can ease the burden of some of the regulations to allow insurance plans that maybe offer you IVF and don't offer you other things.
00:56:38.000We have so many conditions that are covered under these Obamacare platinum plans, bronze plans, gold plans, whatever.
00:56:44.000Right now you have a situation where women with PhDs are taking jobs as Amazon drivers and Starbucks baristas because those companies cover IVF with their insurance and their existing policies at whatever they're working at.
00:56:59.000I mean, the idea that there are women who are trying to go into their 40s without having a family and want us to now pay for that, that I don't agree with.
00:57:08.000I'm saying need in terms of a healthy couple at a reasonable age saying we're having issues and IVF may be the only option.
00:57:16.000The idea to me, or I should say that I think we're suffering a cultural problem in this country, Where people are telling women, just put it off, put it off, put it off, and then someone else will bear the brunt of that decision that you've made or because society has told you to make it.
00:57:29.000But some people are like, they eat too much cake and then they get fat and they can't have kids properly.
00:58:05.000If your issue is caused by your own bad choices, we're not bearing the brunt of that.
00:58:08.000See, I'm in favor of universal basic health care, is what I describe it as.
00:58:12.000If you break a bone, then you go to a doctor and we, I think the taxpayer covers the minor costs of a doctor resetting the bone and giving you one of those self-setting plaster casts or whatever.
00:58:23.000Or if you have the flu, would you seem to have a flu?
00:58:25.000Because it's stupid that a ten-year-old kid dies because he's got the flu.
00:58:34.000I don't know that my idea could actually work.
00:58:36.000I'm just saying, when these leftists say we should have Medicare for all, everyone should be covered no matter what, that's physically impossible.
00:58:41.000There's not enough treatments for every disease that exists to just cover anybody.
00:58:44.000Especially when you're printing money to pay insurance companies.
00:58:48.000Like, why don't we just lower the cost of the treatment and pay them less?
00:58:53.000So a voucher system seems to be a decent idea.
00:58:56.000And when I look at this, I see the challenge as Democrats are going to bloat it, and they're going to try and give everybody access until the system collapses.
00:59:05.000And my proposal is, we should be maximizing the incentives for having families.
00:59:10.000Another example is the child tax credit.
01:00:48.000It's interesting that you reference people taking jobs at Amazon a couple years ago, and I wish I could remember the outlet, but I had read a story about women who were specifically working on Amazon warehouses because if they worked there for a certain amount of time, they would get access to one cycle of IVF.
01:01:01.000through their insurance and I find this to be interesting like there are lots of women who are delaying you know for their career or whatever else but there are also women who just like find themselves in a position of infertility who will do whatever they can including very serious manual labor To have children.
01:01:18.000I think the idea of family is something Americans resonate with.
01:01:24.000And the fact, like you pointed out, that the Democrats have managed to make infertility an issue where Republicans are on the bad side is fascinating.
01:02:54.000You can buy unprepared food, which means you can go to the candy bar aisle, and you can grab nachos, chips, Hershey's chocolate cookies and cream, whatever, Snickers bars.
01:03:03.000Good luck trying to take that away from those companies.
01:03:05.000I don't think that, I mean that's something RFK might, I don't know what his plan is actually.
01:03:10.000I just heard him talking about it today.
01:03:11.000When he was on the show with us when we were at the Libertarian Convention, you know, we talked about all this stuff.
01:03:16.000I agree with you, there's not I don't agree with him on everything but it was really interesting to see someone who is so passionate about the conditions of the environment and the way it affects people's health and the long-term importance of investing in especially children's health talk about this.
01:03:31.000I mean there's a creativity and an innovation there that I think we would need in any successful government and you know, I think I know a lot of people who have struggled with infertility and their first step isn't to say, please give me IVF.
01:03:52.000I mean, in addition to the expense, it's emotionally, psychologically and physically taxing for I think everyone involved.
01:03:59.000But it doesn't seem like this is a conversation the Democrats are having.
01:04:04.000When Republicans talk about families, they're talking about how can we make it easier for you to be with your children, to have children?
01:04:09.000How can we give your children a better start in life?
01:04:12.000And with Democrats, it's like how can we be as controlling to your lives as possible and also maybe give you the option to have or terminate your children?
01:04:22.000As you mentioned, the conservative policy is, how can we help you be with your kids and have more kids, and the Democrat policy is, how can we help you eliminate your children?
01:04:29.000The pro-life, the intensely pro-life people that are like, zero tolerance for any kind of, you know, killing of any kind of embryo, fetus, whatever, I think their resistance to IVF is that the woman is incited to produce multiple embryos, and maybe all of them could potentially become human children at some point, you know, from embryo to child.
01:04:51.000But that five of them will be destroyed and only one of them will be taken if the parent wants only one kid.
01:05:22.000What should our response be when Trump repeatedly takes step after step back from what it means to protect innocent pre-born lives to the point of supporting abortion pills and vowing to veto abortion bans?
01:05:33.000Is it wrong for Trump supporters to demand that pro-life activists be endlessly loyal to Trump in response to repeated betrayal?
01:05:39.000Expressions of disappointment are not enough.
01:05:41.000Disappointment is not being counted at the ballot box.
01:05:43.000The currency in the language in this season is votes.
01:05:46.000Trump has plenty of opportunity to still win the pro-life vote, and it will only help his campaign.
01:05:51.000I want Trump to win as a pro-life candidate, but let's be clear, Trump winning as a pro-abortion candidate is a loss for the pro-life movement.
01:05:57.000Given the current situation, we have two pro-abortion tickets.
01:06:00.000A Trump win is not a pro-life win right now.
01:06:02.000Pro-lifers will need to challenge both leaders either way.
01:06:05.000We only help Trump by sounding the alarm.
01:06:08.000Trump is losing pro-life votes regardless of what I say because of his own actions.
01:06:11.000Kamala Harris supports abortion up until birth, unrestricted and tax-funded.
01:06:16.000Of course, Harris does not deserve the pro-life vote.
01:06:19.000But this does not mean Trump should not be challenged with the truth.
01:06:22.000We'll continue to speak the truth and demand better from the Trump campaign for the sake of innocent babies who cannot speak for themselves.
01:06:27.000Fear cannot keep us from doing and saying what is right.
01:06:32.000It's not too late for Trump to change course.
01:06:34.000She goes into mention, she urges Trump to say he will fight for life, etc., etc.
01:06:40.000I have no problem with the statement, but when she said that she and many others wouldn't vote for him over this, is just one of the gosh darn stupidest things I've ever heard.
01:06:57.000As if the only—welcome to Single Issue Voters, I guess, I get it.
01:07:00.000But as if—I tweeted, and this is so funny, because I'm sorry, but people are really dumb, and this is just reality, and I'll explain, I'll explain.
01:07:10.000If you won't ban war, you don't get anti-war votes.
01:07:13.000Yeah, if you're not Jesus, you don't get the Christian vote.
01:07:15.000That's basically what I was going to tweet.
01:07:18.000If Donald Trump could ban war, I think war is wrong.
01:07:21.000Trump should be coming out and saying that he will ban war all the time, no matter what, and never allow it to happen, and he will shut... Well, he can't do that.
01:07:35.000We have to go through B, C, D, E, F, G, etc, etc.
01:07:38.000And so, let me tell you, in response to these tweets that I've made, so we're trying to book members of Congress, and our booking is telling us that there are members of Congress who are like, isn't Tim coming after Trump now?
01:07:50.000Like, are you people really this stupid?
01:08:07.000And I think that's the right position for him to take because I don't think he can win if he's advocating, at least during the campaign, signing federal legislation on abortion.
01:08:20.000Yeah, and I do think though that this IVF issue, look, it pains me to say it because I didn't like him as a candidate, but Barack Obama probably had the best answer on abortion when he was asked at the Saddleback Church in a debate over that issue with John McCain in 2008.
01:08:36.000And first he said, and he got ridiculed for saying it, at first he said, at some level these issues are above my pay grade.
01:08:40.000I don't know if you guys remember he said that.
01:09:11.000Again, day one, just say, we're going to have this panel of ethicists, not just scientists, not bureaucrats, but we're going to talk to religious leaders.
01:09:17.000We're going to have this process of trying to figure out where we want to go as a society.
01:09:20.000And maybe we won't come to answers, but at least we'll explore the questions.
01:09:24.000I think that the other thing Obama said was, whether you're pro-life or pro-choice, let's all agree to have fewer abortions.
01:09:33.000He governed as the most radically pro-abortion president we've ever had until that point, but I think... Democrats don't agree with that today.
01:10:22.000But we actually tried to find out at the Democratic Convention how many abortions they did because they had the abortion truck and then they had the vasectomy truck, but they left after a day or two, so I don't know how many they actually did.
01:10:34.000But the question at hand with Lila is should pro-life individuals not vote for Trump or say they won't vote for Trump because of this issue?
01:10:54.000I have been in the position before where I've been so offended by something a candidate I supported had said that I said, I'm just not voting in this particular race.
01:11:23.000So I think if your candidate takes a position which is not ideal, I don't think you abandon the candidate because one is going to be better than the other.
01:11:30.000If, however, your candidate runs you down and treats you like dirt, which is what's happening in LA, Then I think you say, you know what?
01:11:37.000Like I would love to vote for you because the guy who's the alternative is so bad.
01:11:41.000But if you're going to treat me like this now, how are you going to treat me after you get into office?
01:11:44.000Especially if your objective is to push for policy that you would be happier with, right?
01:11:51.000They're probably going to make more progress with Trump than with Harris.
01:11:54.000Harris is becoming more and more radical on the abortion issue, I feel like, by the minute.
01:11:59.000And at least with Trump, maybe he's not perfect on the issue, but he is much more amenable to a more intense pro-life worldview than she would be.
01:12:07.000I like what you said before about having an ethical conversation about IVF, and I think that's What I was most interested in when Alabama had the case involving parents whose embryos had been dropped and destroyed by someone who had broken into this clinic, they wanted to sue the hospital and the state under a wrongful death of a child act.
01:12:34.000And that would acknowledge that these embryo were their children because all of these parents wanted them, right?
01:12:42.000And I think that it would be nice if both parties would have the conversation about we have all this wonderful science and technology and we can do all these things.
01:12:51.000We need to revisit the question of life and where does it start and when do we give it value and how much value do we give it at every stage because it does matter.
01:12:59.000Like parents who go through IVF want those children.
01:13:03.000If they conceive six embryos and they want two kids, not six, what do they do?
01:13:09.000And we were talking a little bit before the show about embryo adoption, which I'm not a legal expert, but I have heard from a lot of lawyers that it looks more like the transfer of property than it does adoption paperwork, which is also fascinating.
01:13:22.000Put that on the Ethical Committee's agenda list.
01:13:25.000But why is it that these aren't the conversations that we have?
01:13:29.000Even people that I know who've gone through fertility treatments have talked about You know, because of their religious beliefs or whatever else.
01:13:35.000Asking the doctor, well, do you have to fertilize a lot or could you keep them separate and fertilize one at a time?
01:13:40.000Like, what conversations are people not even aware they could have with their doctor because they're given so little information other than Trump's trying to take it away and actually, you know, you must do it this way.
01:13:52.000You know, there's so much, I think, There are so many gray areas with this where people are so scared and they're pouring so much money into this what feels like a single shot that they don't even know what their options are because we won't talk about them.
01:14:05.000You know, Tim raised another issue, which is the fact that we're not replacing our population.
01:14:10.000And that wasn't the case 20 years ago.
01:14:12.000We had a birthrate above replacement rate.
01:14:16.000I'm really fascinated by this problem because I'm not sure exactly what happened in the last 20 years.
01:14:21.000You know, some people say it's these things that have distracted us or whatever, but I think that that's also a conversation to have.
01:14:28.000And maybe the reframe for conservatives is sort of what Obama did for Democrats on abortion, where Obama said, well, let's talk about reducing the number of abortions, no matter what the actual laws are.
01:14:36.000Maybe conservatives need to say, how do we encourage people to have more children?
01:14:41.000And that's the context in which we were going to have this conversation about IVF.
01:14:45.000And it could also include things like more support for childcare.
01:14:49.000One of the best ideas that Ivanka Trump had in the White House that was never acted on was trying to find some way of subsidizing or supporting childcare and daycare, which is so expensive.
01:15:03.000And Democrats who like to spend a lot of money like to say that everything pays for itself.
01:15:08.000You know, Kamala Harris with her line about return on investment, return on investment, and she didn't really know what that meant when she said it.
01:15:13.000I do think that if you can find a way to support child care, you do get a return on investment for the taxpayer, because a mother or father who can go back into the workforce and work and earn money and get income that you can tax can actually pay the federal taxpayer back for the cost of the child care, depending on how much is being supported.
01:15:34.000But I think we do need to have a conversation as a society.
01:15:44.000It's a great irony, and I do think it's cultural also, because there are some studies that say we're not just having fewer children, we're also having less sex.
01:15:51.000Like, as liberated as we are, you can choose your gender, you can choose whatever, you know, but people aren't getting together and just enjoying each other.
01:16:18.000It was the pressure from women who were deciding on what they want to do with their lives, and men had to adhere to what women wanted.
01:16:25.000Guys, they want to find a woman, they want to hook up, they want to be in a relationship, whatever, the women would dictate.
01:16:29.000She'd say, I want a guy who's got a good job because I want to have a family.
01:16:32.000And the guy would be like, I better get it going.
01:16:34.000Now women are like, I want a guy who wants to go out on the weekends and party and be my polycule because I got work Monday through Friday until 10pm.
01:16:42.000And so having a family is not a component of what women want today.
01:16:46.000They're, you know, they're girl bossing, they're gonna freeze their their eggs so that they can do it later in life when they feel like it doesn't work all the time.
01:16:54.000But it is it is This shift in culture in the end of the 60s into the 70s, and a long time coming too, I mean, especially you go back to the 1900s and suffrage and all that, where women's priorities shifted from family into work.
01:17:11.000And as long as both men and women prioritize work, there will not be family.
01:17:39.000Well, young men see a dude who's ripped, super wealthy, smoking cigars, saying he's got all the women, he can do whatever he wants, and guys are like, how do I get there?
01:17:54.000And so there's a motivating factor in the biological drive that guys will have is they need to rise to a certain level.
01:18:01.000But if that level is non-existent, then they just do nothing.
01:18:04.000I agree too that men are motivated, a lot of men are motivated by achievement.
01:18:07.000Not all men are motivated to reach the same level of achievement and I think that is maybe a cultural factor.
01:18:12.000At one point having a family being successfully married was an achievement but now we don't value those things the same way and so both sexes for different reasons don't need to think about well when and why do we want to start a family.
01:18:24.000I'd be interested to see a series of interviews with couples who intentionally chose to just have one child because you are dipping your feet in the water, right?
01:19:15.000So that means they can work their job, hook up with any guy they want, have zero risk for having any kids,
01:19:20.000and that means they're going to go on apps.
01:19:22.000These women on apps like Tinder or whatever get inundated with messages.
01:19:27.000The two realities are men— Will swipe on every single woman and any opportunity they get they will send a message.
01:19:33.000Women will swipe on the guys they like and then get instantly messaged by all of them and then scroll through their messages and choose who they want to go hook up with.
01:19:41.000The guy who succeeds in this regard doesn't have to do anything.
01:20:09.00020% of men are the ones hooking up with majority of the women.
01:20:12.000Which is very animalistic if you ask me.
01:20:14.000And then if you look at the response curve on dating apps, women view men have a natural bell curve for female attractiveness.
01:20:24.000The ugliest woman is here, the average woman is here, and the most attractive is here.
01:20:27.000And then when you look at how women rate men, 80% of men are rated unattractive and only the top 20% are considered to be average or good-looking.
01:20:35.000So it is very few guys that are succeeding, and then there's a large amount of men that are not succeeding and have given up entirely, and it's created this, I don't know, broken system.
01:20:45.000There used to be, and I'm not saying it should be that way, I'm just describing what it is, women are independent, they can make their own money, they don't have any risk of having a family.
01:20:54.000Back before birth control and abortion, if a woman decided to hook up with a guy and she got pregnant, she better make sure that guy could take care of her because she was in trouble.
01:21:03.000That's what life was for the entirety of humanity.
01:21:06.000Now she can go to a Planned Parenthood and they'll do it for free or whatever or for a minor fee and then she'll drag the guy and make him pay for half and then it's all taken care of.
01:21:13.000You said, Joel, what you were saying about the phone and how this distracts people from relationships.
01:23:29.000Because they're stuck in the machine and they're eating crap.
01:23:31.000Your self-esteem goes through the fucking roof when you start working out and eating healthy and looking around your environment and taking care of your environment.
01:23:41.000I've known people that got married all through the age of no-fault divorce and they're totally happy and have great families.
01:23:47.000I know lots of my friends are married with kids.
01:23:49.000But the fear with no-fault divorce is not that they'll get rejected or something.
01:23:52.000It's that a guy will find a woman and she'll take his children from him.
01:23:57.000It's the fear of the no-fault divorce that's driving it.
01:24:00.000And that fear has spiked in the last like 16 years or something.
01:24:03.000Torturers learned this a long time ago.
01:24:04.000The fear of pain is more powerful as a driver than the pain itself.
01:24:08.000Once you subject the victim to pain, they try to tolerate it.
01:24:11.000But if they fear the pain is coming, they can break.
01:24:14.000So it is the fear that a guy will get married, and he'll lose everything, and he'll lose his kids, and he'll end up like Milhouse's dad in The Simpsons, sleeping in a bachelor apartment complex in a race car.
01:24:24.000That terrifies these guys and they're like, I want to stay away from that.
01:24:27.000And you have these guys who have the MGTOW, men going their own way, who, many of them, it's actually fascinating because it started with guys who ended up getting divorced and losing their families and said, I'm going to just, you know, be myself and be independent.
01:24:37.000And then younger guys who never had that started talking about how they would go their own way as well.
01:24:42.000I think the simple version of it is mass media technology, pornography has fried people's brains, dating apps have made it impossible for a large portion of guys, and Women are no longer being that principal cultural driver of having a family.
01:25:08.000It's like, I will live under a bridge if I'm serving my purpose in the process, but if I have no process, I don't want to live under a bridge, I want comfort.
01:25:46.000Virtual reality where you can talk to your chat GPT, like the movie Her or whatever, and fall in love with the avatar woman.
01:25:52.000Yeah, I just saw AI girlfriends on the porn sites.
01:25:55.000Yep, and they got haptic feedback bodysuits, and yep, and then Neuralink's gonna come out with read-write capabilities, and these guys are gonna be like, don't know, don't care, plug me until I die.
01:26:06.000It could just be the evolution of the species is that the weak among us must go and the strong will stay and repopulate.
01:27:51.000No, but I really think that, like, she should just be sort of a representation of, like, Marriage and family and why it's good.
01:27:58.000I mean, she's obviously so devoted to her son and I think a lot of people need to hear the anecdote to these stories, which is like, you know, I like, I want to be childless and, and, you know, kids are annoying and I regret them.
01:28:09.000But I was like, I think there are way more people who are grateful that they have families or, you know, even exceptional or whatever it is that they are deeply involved with that give purpose and meaning and direction and, and not to steal Kamal Harris's word, but a joy to life that there's kind of no equivalent to.
01:28:26.000You know, the movie American Beauty, which is a great movie, had all these Oscar nominations.
01:28:30.000And I remember watching the Oscars that year and the one person who didn't win was Annette Bening and she played the mom.
01:28:35.000And we've had a culture that for too long, I think, has denigrated moms.
01:28:39.000And maybe that's because all the Hollywood writers are guys who resent their moms or they're working out their issues or whatever, but we haven't really celebrated that as a culture.
01:29:13.000And then I realized like, yo, she's just a dude.
01:29:17.000She's just a person that screwed up a little bit, like sometimes, but also was so awesome in a lot of ways.
01:29:25.000And I got through, I got past that like, I think it's hard growing up, right?
01:29:28.000Becoming an adult and realizing like your parents are actually deeply human and they're probably struggling with all kinds of stuff that you couldn't see or appreciate as a kid.
01:29:36.000I'm sure there were challenges and things that like she regrets and you wish had gone differently but ultimately, you know, you want to be able to have a forgiveness where you're like you did in a lot of ways the best you could or at least you tried because I think most parents do.
01:29:49.000So much of culture right now talks about, you know, parents who are There are.
01:29:53.000There are parents who are neglectful, people who have children who don't appreciate the position and the opportunity they have with them.
01:29:58.000But for the most part, and I like what Joel was saying, you know, having a family is cool and we should all want to do it because it's good.
01:30:15.000He's one of my favorites, but he talks about – his sister, Amy Sedaris, is a successful actress and they had – I think it's like six kids in their family or several.
01:30:24.000And he has a line where he talks about, we felt like we were the coolest club on the planet and we didn't understand why people didn't want to be a part of it.
01:30:33.000Even though they're sort of this eccentric family.
01:30:35.000And I think – I wish that more people looked at their own nuclear family, the one they grew up in, but also the family they could create as this cool club that you get exclusive membership to.
01:30:45.000I think he called his dad the rooster.
01:31:22.000Vance, before he became a politician and had to be accountable to people, did say a few things that, if you take them in the wrong context, could look like he's telling you, you have to have this kind of family and you should be more like me.
01:31:33.000And nobody wants to hear that from anybody.
01:31:34.000So there's got to be a way of doing it.
01:31:36.000that celebrates the great stuff that family can bring to people
01:31:40.000without making you feel bad if your family is unconventional.
01:31:43.000If you call your brother the rooster or if you have divorce or whatever in your family like so many of us do.
01:31:56.000You mentioned a couple policy solutions and it makes me – what you're saying now is making me think of – there's a couple Eastern European countries that have offered tax credit for grandparents who want to stay as – like if the parents are working, you can get some kind of stipend or tax credit from the government where the grandparents are the ones with the children.
01:32:14.000I think for a lot of people that would be nice, right?
01:32:16.000I mean right now especially Democrats offer you earlier and earlier universal preschool.
01:32:20.000You could give your children to the government earlier, but you couldn't find a way to keep them with, you know, your parents who you probably like, or at least your in-laws, you know, some adult in adult relation who you know loves and cares about your individual child.
01:32:36.000I know it's a short book, but it's got a lot in it.
01:32:38.000And one of the things Trump can do is he can say to the IRS, you need to change the regulations around what is considered a dependent and you need to find ways without having to go to Congress because Congress is ultimately responsible for the tax code, but there have to be regulatory changes.
01:32:53.000That encourage these multi-generational families, that encourage people to group together and stay together, that can relieve a lot of the cost of child care.
01:33:02.000I mean, you know, in the Jewish community where people like to send their kids to religious schools if they can afford it, the joke is that the most effective form of birth control is tuition.
01:33:10.000But, you know, it's expensive even just to have an ordinary child who's not going to private school.
01:33:23.000So I think that Ivanka Trump had the right idea.
01:33:26.000Some of these things won't be possible in the first hundred days.
01:33:28.000I talk about some of that in the last chapter of the book.
01:33:30.000You do need acts of Congress for some of these policy changes.
01:33:33.000But I do think that we've got to get the population back above replacement rate.
01:33:36.000And look, we've got to have fun again.
01:33:40.000You know, MAFA, Make America Fun Again.
01:33:44.000I told my wife who grew up in South Africa that during the Trump years, like 2018, 2019, when things were really going well, It felt like it felt to me growing up in the 80s in America.
01:34:22.000Look, I'm very big on expanding fossil fuel production, but I've got a section here.
01:34:27.000There's no reason you can't have an all-of-the-above approach.
01:34:29.000So all of these things, hydrogen, solar, you know, why is it that we can't make money anymore from putting solar panels in our homes?
01:34:36.000It used to be when this was starting and they were trying to get people to adopt the solar panels, that if you fed energy back into the grid, if you fed power back into the grid, you got some kind of payment.
01:34:51.000Okay, so in California, what happened was the big energy companies started making these investments in these big solar fields out in the desert, and they're like, well, we want to return on that investment.
01:34:59.000We don't want people to be mom-and-popping the whole thing by having their own solar panels, so that doesn't happen anymore.
01:35:05.000But I'm glad to hear it's still happening, but why can't We don't get cash or anything, we just get a credit towards... because we don't produce more than we consume.
01:35:14.000They figured out at Rice University a technology called flash-joule heating, where you pulse carbon at 7,000 degree electricity, like 0.1 millisecond flashes, and you convert carbon trash, like plastic, into this black powder graphene, bulk graphene, and it releases a kilogram of hydrogen.
01:35:30.000For every $4.50 of graphene you produce, you get a kilogram of hydrogen fuel.
01:35:45.000But you know, there are so many different technologies that we can invest in at the same time that we're expanding this fossil fuel stuff.
01:35:51.000And Democrats like to portray it as all or Yeah, because the oil and gas industry will resist the hydrogen move, but what you can do is you can convert the oil and the coal into graphene as well with that same flash-joule heating process.
01:36:04.000We can pump more and drill more, and it'll be even more profitable for those industries as well.
01:36:37.000Tomorrow, it's going to be Tenet Media on YouTube for the Culture War podcast, where Ian and I will be discussing with a simulation theorist and a Christian about the greater questions of reality and the universe, and it should be a lot of fun.
01:36:49.000But for now, we'll read your Super Chats.
01:37:46.000But I believe that, was it the 28th Amendment?
01:37:49.000The chickens, being necessary to a free and secure state, the right of the people to keep, bear, and breed chickens shall not be infringed.
01:37:57.000What about cutting out the rooster's vocal box?
01:38:15.000But if you're gonna stick them in the city and they gotta reproduce the chickens and fertilize the eggs... Dude, it would be the greatest thing in the world if you lived in like a suburban residential block with like 300 homes and everyone had roosters.
01:38:26.000So in the morning it was a cacophony of like... In every direction.
01:38:30.000Maybe you can genetically engineer them through breeding so that they don't scream.
01:38:35.000There are some that scream less than others.
01:39:01.000You know, so people genuinely believe that roosters just crow when the sun comes up, and it's like, no, it's because they woke up, they start screaming, and then they scream non-stop for the rest of the day.
01:40:01.000The Simple Gunsmith says, Hey Tim, about the elevator in Casper location, I work at a shop that would be able to machine all the parts to get the elevator up to code.
01:40:07.000If you're interested, reach out to Tool Tech Machine, Inc.
01:41:26.000And we took two chair legs and we made a cross, because we are not Christian, but for some reason it's the moral tradition that we... Bocas was.
01:42:00.000All I know is that we are attached to it.
01:42:03.000It's unfortunate that we as a society recognize that's what we do.
01:42:05.000The murder tool, the crucifix, or the cross, I guess.
01:42:10.000That's kind of crazy too, but I'm just saying, you know, American society recognizes the tradition but doesn't understand why they do it, which is a shame.
01:42:18.000That's when I part ways with tradition, is when there's a lack of understanding about why it exists.
01:42:25.000Yeah, I was actually wondering, I was like, is it offensive to Christians that we use a cross to mark a gravesite when we're not Christians ourselves?
01:42:30.000And I'm like, I don't know, I feel like we're supposed to do it.
01:43:16.000I don't know about the comments, but there was a shift toward migrants maybe about five or six years ago because Brandon Darby, who's our border editor, wanted us to be very precise.
01:43:31.000The people coming to our southern border aren't all coming illegally.
01:43:35.000There is some minority that has a legitimate asylum claim.
01:43:41.000Merely arriving at the border doesn't make them illegal aliens.
01:43:43.000When they cross illegally, they are illegal aliens, or when they claim that they're seeking asylum and they're not, they're Unlawfully in the country, but basically migrant is a more precise term for the person who shows up at the border What happens after that is different.
01:43:59.000I use illegal aliens and headlines all the time.
01:44:01.000I don't think that that's necessarily an offensive term It just describes what's happening and we do use that but we definitely moved toward migrants Because it was more accurate to describe what we started reporting on and actually Brandon was the first back in 2014 the first to report on the Kids showing up at the border by the hundreds and he published those first photographs of the kids basically being warehoused in Border Patrol facilities But that would make them illegal immigrants
01:44:32.000And what was interesting was that CNN, as much as they hated us, had to use our photographs because we were the only ones.
01:44:37.000Now, of course, everyone's covering it.
01:44:40.000So when you're talking about data arrivals at the border, you'll use migrants, but when you're talking about the number of illegal immigrants that have taken up space in shelters in Massachusetts, you would use illegal immigrants?
01:44:52.000Or would you still assume that there's a mix of people with legitimate claim and not?
01:44:57.000I think generally it's accurate to call them illegal aliens because the number of legitimate asylum cases is just so small.
01:45:04.000But it wasn't like there was a nod to political correctness.
01:45:07.000We didn't start using migrants because we were afraid to call them illegal aliens.
01:45:10.000I do it all the time in headlines and so forth because, again, I think it's accurate.
01:45:13.000But Brandon pointed out, look, some of this movement, at least when they're traveling to our country, they haven't yet broken any of our laws.
01:45:20.000We call that the migrant caravan or whatever.
01:46:05.000It's gonna be a year from now and Ian's gonna be super massive and he's just gonna be sitting there with a beard just like nodding like yes.
01:46:11.000It's funny how shame like I'm like I can't go on the show with wiener arms and I don't want to wear long sleeve shirts in the 90 degree heat so I'm gonna hump a little before the show.
01:46:18.000George says there's a video game called We Happy Few set in a dystopian city where everyone is required to take a medication called joy.
01:46:24.000Joy makes you hallucinate and see the world in cheerful colors and numbs you to emotions.
01:47:18.000Because the use of AI makes it really feel like how a nightmare feels.
01:47:24.000And the short film is basically about living in a society where you are required to smile basically if someone if someone doesn't have a smile, let us know report them and you can win cash prizes and people have virtual reality where they live in this fake world where they can relive their moments.
01:47:38.000They're all morbidly obese eating garbage and disgusting food.
01:47:41.000But the AI video At its point, made it all look like how a nightmare feels.
01:49:05.000I hear people talk about this with solar.
01:49:06.000You have these big parking lots and you build the roofs over them that have solar panels on top because then the cars have shade which is nice for anybody underneath and then you're, you know, getting energy from the sun.
01:49:16.000All right, so I've got the answer on Tim Walz and Christian teachers.
01:49:19.000So he signed a law that will require teachers who are applying for licenses to teach in the state to affirm that they believe in transgenderism and that sort of thing.
01:49:32.000So if transgenderism conflicts with Christian teachings and That's interesting.
01:49:36.000of the other articles points out it conflicts with other religious teachings
01:49:39.000as well, then you can't really be a practicing member of those faiths and
01:49:42.000also be a teacher. Probably most people just sign the form and teach anyway, so
01:49:47.000it's not your Christian faith that they're trying to exclude, it's
01:49:51.000just saying that you have to include these other beliefs even if your faith
01:49:55.000tells you you can't. That's interesting. That's probably gonna see a Supreme
01:50:42.000And it's because I don't want to use a pronoun that would be wrong for anybody who may otherwise be non-binary or who could be offended by ZZIR.
01:50:48.000So if we're trying to be accepting of everybody, you're now FLIRB.
01:50:50.000And I'm gonna call you FLIRB in front of everybody.
01:50:52.000And then when they're like, don't call me, that'd be like, you can't tell me not to because it would be offensive to others to call you by a term that's offensive.
01:50:58.000So in order to be non-offensive, I'm going to use a word that means nothing to anybody.
01:51:02.000You might get put on leave for harassment if they start calling a kid something weird.
01:51:07.000Not that Zeezer is not weird, but saying, like, he, him... And this is my point.
01:51:13.000You respond with, you know, we had complaints about kids using weird words that were offensive terms.
01:51:20.000So we're using a gender-neutral word now for anybody who doesn't want to go by he, him, or she, her.
01:51:43.000There was a woman who happens to be lesbian who raised two daughters and was telling me that one of the daughters decided that she wanted to become transgender or non-binary.
01:51:53.000So the mother, who was a little shocked at first, it's interesting to her experiencing parenthood
01:51:59.000as a lesbian to now find your kid going beyond a boundary that even you wouldn't have crossed.
01:52:03.000But the mother said, okay, well, I'm also changing my gender.
01:52:56.000And then a week later he says, I got a new job offer and I'm going to be relocating but thank you for everything you've done and we'll make sure to follow up with the gender affirmation with you and let you know how things are going.
01:53:05.000Moved to the countryside and he said within three months my daughter was back to normal and was acting like a normal teenage girl.
01:53:37.000And he tried to shift the conversation.
01:53:39.000Basically, the argument is these kids, if they're outed by being forced to tell their parents, are going to die, like they're going to commit suicide.
01:53:46.000So they jump from You know, this is a tough situation we're trying to manage.
01:53:51.000You don't want the kids to die, do you?
01:53:53.000You're going to kill your own kid by trying to take care of the child.
01:54:02.000After 20 years of trying and close to $100,000 in reproduction services, my wife and I are having our first child this February because of IVF and embryo adoption.
01:54:11.000We would love to educate you all on it.
01:54:33.000I think it'd be a really good culture war episode because I think people know the letters, but they don't know what the process is like and it's not easy.
01:54:40.000And it's, I mean, it's a really, really tough journey for a lot of people.
01:54:58.000Yeah, and in Virginia what happened was, it was, who was it, Northam?
01:55:03.000He said, if the, you know, how we would handle this is the baby would be born, it would be delivered, it would be made comfortable, and then the doctor and the mother would go into the other room and make a decision on what happens next.
01:55:17.000And that decision was whether or not to kill the baby that was born.
01:55:20.000Later on, he said, he's talking about severe deformity or, you know, issues with the baby.
01:55:25.000And then the left made a whole bunch of excuses as to why they should be allowed to have these procedures.
01:55:32.000And they said extreme cases like a baby born without a spine or without a heart or something wouldn't survive anyway.
01:55:38.000And it's a weird issue because if a baby is born with these severe deformities and it cannot survive, then you don't need to have an abortion for it.
01:55:46.000You would literally just be like, medical science cannot keep your son alive.
01:56:21.000There was a famous quote, I think it was by Senator Barbara Boxer, and she may have misspoken, but it's in the congressional record, where she seemed to suggest that you could still have an abortion after you went home with the baby.
01:56:30.000It's like, you know, you come home from the hospital and... I don't like this.
01:56:36.000A few too many sleepless nights and you decide to start.
01:56:38.000Which is wild because you can literally, legally, just take the baby, wrap it in a little blanket, put it in a basket, and put it on a post office doorstep, and that's legal and allowed.
01:56:48.000The safe havens where you can drop off a baby at a fire department or whatever.
01:56:51.000Yet there are still people who would rather just kill it, which is nuts.
01:57:22.000I'm just saying like it's great that that's a decision you make.
01:57:25.000That's not true of every embryo that's conceived through IVF.
01:57:28.000Jay Smith says, Tim, if you're looking for an atheist to have on for a debate, I'd recommend Matt Dillahunty.
01:57:34.000Once studied to be a pastor, but changed the more he studied.
01:57:38.000Very knowledgeable and keeps a calm head.
01:57:40.000I will tell you the issue I take with most atheists—because I won't say all, because I've not debated all atheists—is that Every instance I've ever debated an atheist, they will either say, I don't believe in fairy tales, there's no man in the sky, there's no great being, and all of these things are lower-ordered thinking.
01:58:03.000Lower-order thinking is talking about the depth of what you are discussing, and highest-order thinking could be talking about multiple realities and probabilities and forks in, you know, probabilities and systems, their definitions.
01:58:20.000So for a lot of the atheists that I debate, their atheism is rooted in, I don't believe the Bible is real, I don't believe the Quran is real, things like that.
01:58:26.000And I'm like, uh-huh, well that's nothing to do with the existence of God or not.
01:58:30.000If we're talking about God, an entity beyond comprehension or the logos of the universe, that has literally nothing to do with whether or not you believe humans who tell stories are correct or not.
01:58:41.000If your argument is that you don't agree with organized religion and you think people are telling, you know, fairy tales, okay.
01:58:48.000Now, on to the question of God, which is a totally different question.
01:58:52.000Most atheists that I have conversations with end there, and they'll say—they'll just repeat the same thing over and over again.
01:58:58.000Of those who are much smarter, they instantly agree and say, oh, okay, well then we're talking about something else.
01:59:03.000And I'm like, okay, so you're not— So you're not actually an atheist, right?
01:59:07.000Either lacking a belief in God or disbelieving in God, you're actually an agnostic arguing against organized religion, which is a different thing.
01:59:13.000They just lump atheists into... And so it still is, in my opinion, low-ordered thinking to associate the concept of God, or the logos of the universe, with a human story, which is, again, lower order thinking. Not
01:59:27.000an insult. It's like believing that a man in the cloud is watching you. Now, to be fair
01:59:32.000about that, there are quite literally men operating machines in the clouds that are spying on us,
01:59:37.000trying to determine whether or not we're doing good or bad things. And that's actually kind of
01:59:42.000There quite literally are objects flying around in outer space that spy on people to determine whether or not we're doing things that are in or out of line with what they want to do, and they will punish you if you do bad things.
01:59:54.000We use them for surveillance and spying and reconnaissance, and then various governments will raid or attack other people based on them doing naughty things.
02:00:02.000So there quite literally is an eye in the sky watching everything you do.
02:00:14.000Consciousness is an observable fact of reality, and consciousness exists as a component of reality, ergo, reality has consciousness.
02:00:21.000But I think sentience, more of that sentience, and that consciousness is when that sentience corroborates with matter, and that if God is ephemeral, ethereal, that it doesn't have consciousness, it's only sentient.
02:00:33.000You can have an argument of an Einsteinian God, a great power that does not interfere with the day-to-day ongoings of humanity, or you can believe in a Christian God who has a preferred outcome and watches, but those are totally different arguments outside of whether God exists.
02:00:48.000Religion is like one guy's experience with God, and then a bunch of people wrote it down and are like, now I'm going to think that that guy is the one that was able—but it's like, bro, God is real.
02:00:58.000Well, we can talk about this tomorrow.
02:01:00.000Yeah, we'll grab one more Super Chat before we go.
02:01:01.000And then tomorrow the show is on Tenet Media if you want to watch us debate this stuff.
02:01:28.000Because it is rewarding to have friends and family.
02:01:31.000And if you do go your own way, one day you'll be an old man sitting in a hospital bed, in a sterile room, where your heart is in pain, and the doctor will say, it's time now, I'm sorry, there's nothing we can do, is there anyone you'd like us to call?
02:01:46.000And he'll say, well, press the button if you need us, and then you'll be sitting in that room staring at the wall as your heart slowly fades and then you cease to exist.
02:01:57.000As opposed to the alternative where you're surrounded by your children and your grandchildren, they're holding your hands and they're saying they love you, you've given them everything, they'll carry on your name and legacy, and you have a smile on your face and a tear in your eye, and then you drift off to sleep and go to the great beyond.
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