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00:04:37.000So joining us to talk about all these things and more, we've got the Native Patriot.
00:05:49.000So, like I said, from the border report, a man who works for the GEO group allegedly shot a woman protesting near the ICE processing center in Aurora, Colorado on Thursday night, according to a press release from the Aurora Police Department on Friday afternoon.
00:06:01.000The man identified as 42 year old Brandon Booth was arrested after fleeing the scene in his vehicle, police say.
00:06:07.000Just before 7 30 p.m. on Thursday, Aurora police responded to reports of a shooting at the 3100 block of North Nome Street.
00:06:14.000When officers arrived, they located two women, one who had suffered a gunshot wound to the lower body, and another who was unharmed.
00:06:20.000Officers stopped the vehicle a short distance away, and the vehicle with the gun inside was seized.
00:06:25.000Both identified as the driver was detained.
00:06:27.000I'm sorry, Booth identified as the driver was detained.
00:06:30.000Investigators said an initial investigation revealed the woman were.
00:06:32.000The women were part of a protest taking place near the Aurora Ice Processing Center.
00:06:36.000So basically, this guy's trying to get to work.
00:06:39.000They're out in front of his car making a bunch of noise.
00:06:42.000And then he gets all shooty in a stupid way because apparently the woman was walking away.
00:06:49.000And he was also, thankfully, a bad shot because the injuries were not life threatening.
00:06:58.000This is like, for somebody who's a huge gun rights activist, this is like the worst possible scenario you can have for something like.
00:07:04.000This is because it's the opposite of what people who actually own and respect firearms try to preach to people, which is to have reverence for what you have and be very careful when using it.
00:07:16.000And you should not do so unless your life is threatened.
00:07:19.000And it makes, first of all, it's bad for people who own guns.
00:07:22.000And it's twice as bad for ICE, who's like literally every time I'm on the show, which is like once a week, it's like something's happening at an ICE facility.
00:07:29.000And I don't know if it happens every day and it's just when I'm here, but it seems like a really bad bit of publicity all around.
00:07:45.000And the GEO group operates the Aurora facility under ICE contract.
00:07:50.000And, like, to your point, Brett, like, look, if you're going to carry a gun, which everybody knows I carry a gun, you have to de escalate, right?
00:07:57.000You have to do everything you can to avoid using any kind of self defense.
00:08:02.000And if you, I mean, if you have a gun, you avoid confrontations.
00:08:05.000You remember me and you were on a show, I think it was another day when you were running the show.
00:08:10.000About the guy who his house got robbed and he followed him into the street.
00:08:32.000It's almost like there's a fatigue that has built up for a long time and whatever was going on in this guy's life, he just decided to throw it all away.
00:08:40.000Is that the one with the guy with the famous picture?
00:08:57.000And I mean, you would imagine that there was something else going on in his life to where he was just decided, today's the day to throw it all away.
00:10:32.000Not imagining that encroaching on other people and causing problems to them could lead to somebody doing something really stupid and possibly harming you is something you should actually be thinking about.
00:10:41.000I mean, even though this guy wasn't law enforcement, anytime you go and harass people that are doing their job, there could be consequences.
00:10:53.000Unfortunately, this person was shot in the foot.
00:10:56.000And I mean, unfortunately, she was shot.
00:11:05.000The Marxists would have loved it if they could have gotten it on film so they could have cut out the part where she's bothering him and only cut, you know, show the part where she gets shot.
00:11:13.000They'd have like superimposed like a nuclear explosion going on.
00:11:18.000I think this is one of those stories where I don't think I really have a dog in this fight.
00:11:22.000I mean, I really do detest the ICE protesters.
00:11:26.000I think they're, I was mentioning it before the show, I think they're the only set of protesters that I feel directly offended by.
00:11:33.000You know, I think it's okay actually to get offended.
00:11:35.000Triggered sometimes if there is like a serious, if they are seriously undercutting your life in any meaningful way.
00:11:42.000And ICE is carrying out this operation that A is defending the sovereignty of the United States, which matters, you know, so much to me as an American, as it should be to any American.
00:11:51.000And then, yeah, secondarily, just the way that they conduct themselves is just very, it's preventing these officers from doing their jobs.
00:11:58.000And often in many cases, so I really don't like these protesters whatsoever.
00:12:04.000And on the flip side, I don't think I would ever shoot at someone because they were like bothering me.
00:12:17.000I don't think I really have a dog in this fight.
00:12:19.000I mean, like, let's not shoot at protesters, but also let's not, you know, harass ICE agents who are doing carrying out an operation that was voted on by the American people.
00:12:30.000So, you know, in both cases, I think, uh, horrific, but no, yeah, I mean, like, yeah, we probably should be shooting at, uh, horrific is a little extreme.
00:12:38.000Well, I think what the ICE protesters are doing is horrific, yeah.
00:13:01.000And then like three hours later it came out.
00:13:03.000It wasn't even an ice officer or anything.
00:13:05.000I was just like, oh, well, the headline rushed out did not properly communicate that, you know, when you hear outside of an ice facility, that's sort of.
00:13:13.000Trying to lead you to think something happened.
00:13:16.000That'd be like a road rage shooting happening outside of a police department.
00:13:25.000I mean, the whole framing of it is intended to mislead people, or at least to, you know, people that would read the headline, they want to be like, oh, see, it's another ICE agent that has shot a protester or, you know, shot an innocent person or whatever.
00:13:38.000And I was making this point before the show, like, when it was, you know, when you were talking about the Iraq war.
00:13:45.000Anytime Blackwater got into any kind of gunfight or did anything that was outside the rules, they were very clear that they were contractors.
00:13:54.000There was a very clear delineation between people in the military and Blackwater contractors, even though Blackwater contractors are the ones that were protecting, you know, they were protecting the.
00:14:26.000Basically, the media went along with it because the media doesn't love private military contractors any more than, you know, than basically any other left wing person would.
00:14:35.000So it was very easy for them to go ahead and, oh, yeah, it was contractors with contractors.
00:14:40.000And in this context, the headlines and stuff basically do everything they can to lead you to believe that it was an ICE employee, that it was someone that actually worked for ICE, probably hoping that you're going to think that it was some kind of law enforcement agent, which technically, I guess this guy would be a corrections officer of some kind.
00:15:00.000But it's definitely not the same kind of thing as, you know, when ICE agents are trying to grab someone off the street and then a protester puts themselves in between the protest or in between the suspect and the law enforcement officer and the officer shoots them.
00:15:15.000I think it just illustrates how slow the news cycle is right now when it's like a crazy person shoots another crazy person in the foot and everyone's like, oh, wow, this is really interesting.
00:15:27.000I think it just shows you like one of two things is one that I think these people that are spinning up these stories are trying to realize that, like, Typically, these shootings are fairly justified from ISIS perspective.
00:15:37.000And then, secondarily, that there really isn't that much news going on.
00:15:40.000And so they're like, all right, well, let's run the story about a crazy person getting in a road rage incident with another crazy person and firing at them.
00:15:48.000Like that happens, I don't know, probably at least once a day in the country, probably even more than that.
00:15:53.000The media definitely doesn't want to talk about the DSA or the Democrat Party right now, the split in the Democrat Party and how the DSA is basically taking over the Democrat Party.
00:16:02.000So they're going to do everything they can to talk about.
00:16:14.000I think the next Democrat primary will ultimately be kind of the referendum on the DSA because up until now, we haven't seen a DSA candidate really contest the.
00:16:24.000We haven't seen a primary from the Democrats in a long time, too.
00:17:11.000And so our elected sheriff is now, they're changing the rules to where they can remove the elected sheriff and then select their own.
00:17:20.000And I mean, along with a litany of other things that they're doing behind the scenes, but these places, you know, the West Coast, basically any blue state, they're quietly implementing rules to secure their future stranglehold of our rights.
00:17:37.000Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the dynamic we've seen this far at the DSA they run up the numbers.
00:17:41.000In very blue areas, you know, your Seattle's, your Portland's, your New York City's, Chicago's, you know, your major cities.
00:17:47.000But they really struggle to penetrate any suburban districts or even rural districts.
00:17:52.000There's barely any left that are Democrat, but the ones that exist.
00:17:55.000And they also struggle to really break through in a lot of the kind of more historically ethnic districts, like in South Texas, the Hispanic districts or the black districts in the South.
00:18:03.000So I think it'll be interesting to see now at the national level.
00:18:06.000It's like, okay, we've been building up all this enthusiasm and activism base and racking up victories in urban centers.
00:18:12.000Let's see you do it on the national scale.
00:18:15.000And I kind of struggle to see if that's really going to manifest because.
00:18:20.000You know, the Democrat Party, I think to your point, is still probably maybe a decade away from a DSA candidate being truly viable because there's still a lot of baby boomers in the Democrat Party and there's not much of an appetite for socialism among them.
00:18:31.000You say it seemed like it would be more, you said like this election cycle is a bit of a referendum, and it seems like it would be more like two election cycles from now will be an idea of just how far they've penetrated into the.
00:18:41.000Yeah, the next one will be the heat check.
00:18:43.000Like, okay, are they really in the driver's seat?
00:19:00.000What's the future of the Democrat Party?
00:19:02.000I think that'll ultimately be the election that determines.
00:19:04.000The DSA is kind of a millennial party, right?
00:19:07.000They get their strength with the millennials.
00:19:09.000I don't know how popular they are with like Gen Z, but Gen Z is kind of a non issue because not only do young people not particularly vote, there's also very few of them comparatively, right?
00:19:19.000The numbers are actually less radical than the DSA.
00:19:26.000I think Gen Z is actually more right leaning.
00:19:29.000I've been hearing that a lot, I thought.
00:19:30.000Well, I think there's like two dynamics there, which is Gen Z is a really interesting study because it's the first generation of its kind in America, insofar as it's 50% white, 50% non white, when the country is about 70% white.
00:19:43.000So, what you're going to see as Gen Z moves up the ranks is I think people are saying, oh, it's the most right leaning generation ever, it's the most Christian generation ever.
00:19:51.000And then, when you actually see studies and data and polling on Gen Z, and I'm saying this as a Zoomer, I'm 25.
00:19:58.000It's true that the trends have slowed down.
00:20:00.000So they're not secularizing at the same rate that millennials did.
00:20:03.000And they're not as liberal as millennials were at this point.
00:20:05.000But they're still continuing the trend that you would expect to see.
00:20:08.000Now, the interesting thing is if you read the crosstabs among white Zoomers, they are very right wing and very Christian.
00:20:16.000But with a lot of Zoomers of immigrant backgrounds and also of like black background, they're very left wing.
00:20:24.000And so what you're really seeing here, and then obviously there's white Zoomers that are left wing and vice versa, but we're talking generalizations here.
00:20:30.000So, what you're going to see is kind of the showdown.
00:20:33.000I think politics is going to get more racial.
00:20:35.000And in addition to that, I think you're going to see more polarization because there's not really any moderate Zoomers.
00:20:41.000Like, it's very uncouth to be a centrist Zoomer.
00:20:43.000You can look at the big streamers like Asmongold and Hassan Piker.
00:20:47.000I know that they have feuds all the time, but I mean, Hassan Piker just came out and did a speech just as like Mao.
00:22:08.000But it used to be where it was uncouth to talk about, you know, well, I'm white and I think about the fact that I'm white.
00:22:14.000And now, Because the left has pushed the racial politics and the desire to awaken a critical racial consciousness, which people talk about.
00:22:25.000You know, it's probably not something people hear all the time nowadays, but back in 2020, people were talking about CRT, critical race theory, and how big of a deal it was.
00:22:33.000Well, the goal of critical race theory was to awaken a critical racial consciousness.
00:22:38.000And Jordan Peterson was talking about this in 2016 when he would say, look, you don't want to have white people decide that they're going to vote.
00:22:48.000Like, this is not something that's going to be good for our politics.
00:22:51.000We don't want to have people thinking about their race first.
00:22:53.000But that, you know, and he was predicting it, like I said, 10 years ago.
00:22:57.0002020 comes around and CRTs basically in all the schools and stuff.
00:23:01.000And then people notice they're like, oh, wow, you know, you're supposed to think about your race first.
00:23:07.000And you're going to see that become something, like you said, you're going to see that become something really important in the politics in the United States.
00:23:14.000And, you know, right, wrong, or indifferent.
00:23:17.000That is the future, and that is a victory for the left because that was their goal and has been their goal for ages.
00:23:51.000Because I have many white family, like half my family's white.
00:23:55.000And I remember after the 2016 election, one of my relatives came up to me and they were very TDS, but they were like, I'm worried about you.
00:24:06.000And I was like, why are you worried about me?
00:24:11.000And they had no idea, it never registered that they're white and that there's this anti white propaganda because they were so bought into it at that point.
00:24:20.000Where they believed that the white supremacists were going to rule over the whole thing.
00:24:24.000But it's like there was no idea to actually preserve the white race in general.
00:24:46.000And what you were describing earlier when you were saying, well, people are starting to have this kind of racial consciousness, at least among white people, I think everybody else already has for a long time.
00:24:54.000Is really what you're describing there is just the demise of liberalism broadly because post racialism, the idea that, like, you know, it's just skin deep, but it's actually like there's no other differences between anyone, et cetera.
00:25:07.000Like MLK's vision for the United States, that's like a uniquely liberal idea.
00:25:11.000So, what you're outlining is more we're just seeing the disillusion of liberalism, which has been observed by political scientists all across the world.
00:25:17.000You're seeing it in Europe, you're even seeing it, you know, in Asia and pretty much everywhere in the world, actually.
00:25:22.000So, really, what you're describing is this abandonment of post racialism insofar as Like this idea that white people always behave this way, that like we always were just like, I don't know, man, like, we, you know, we're all individuals or whatever.
00:25:32.000Like individualism is a very liberal idea, strictly speaking, in this certain aspect.
00:25:38.000And before the 1960s, I mean, we had like racial requirements for immigration.
00:25:43.000Like, you know, white people did have this understanding that like the United States, the demographic composition of the United States is that way for a reason, whether it's good or bad, that's the debate, but that's the reality.
00:25:54.000And so they had this kind of understanding of like, well, if we're conservatives, then we should just seek to conserve everything, like conserve everything about society.
00:26:01.000So, yeah, this idea that like, you know, we're like losing post racialism and this is like the left pushing identity politics.
00:26:09.000I guess my counter argument would just be that.
00:26:11.000I think everything, all politics is derivative of identity.
00:26:13.000Like every action that someone makes is derivative of an identity, whether it's racial, sure, but whether it's religious, whether it's, you know, your class, which I think is a little overstated, or, you know, whether it's like a direct family or a specific ethnicity, you know, you're Italian, you're Irish, or whatever.
00:26:30.000Whatever identity that you have from birth, people have always operated politically in that understanding.
00:26:35.000Like the idea that anyone is truly this individual rational being, I think is a very liberal argument that just sounds nice.
00:26:45.000It's just not really reflected in people's behaviors when it comes to how they operate politically.
00:26:49.000We just had this 50 year blip after MLK, the Civil Rights Act, where there was this idea that maybe we were moving towards MLK's America, this post racial America.
00:26:58.000But you saw corrections, you know, some reality checks.
00:27:04.000I mean, we saw 9 11, how people just immediately were like, Muslims, they got to go, that sort of thing.
00:27:08.000So you had these touch points along the way where people did kind of shack, you know, take off that shackle, so to speak, of.
00:27:15.000Post racialism, and they're like, no, actually, you know, and they like locked in.
00:27:18.000Well, in the white guilt you're talking about, a lot of that is a result of post 9 11 and the way that Muslims were treated in America when people felt like they'd gone too far with a lot of that.
00:27:28.000People my age, meaning like younger millennials at that time, they saw it after the fact, and it was drilled into them in the media that the way that people were behaving was wrong, and now they've been trying to correct that ever since in a lot of ways.
00:27:41.000Like what you were mentioning earlier, the white liberal is the only group in America with an outgroup bias, right?
00:27:49.000What you look like, who you're from, they want to hang out with you, hang out with everybody.
00:27:52.000Everybody else has their own in group preferences because it's a mode of survival.
00:27:55.000Whereas white liberals in America never understood that need for that type of survival because they didn't think in a post racial society or they thought in a post racial society.
00:28:04.000And like, you know, and even maybe to push back against like the more like race realist people that are out there, I think that various ethnicities can get along while still acknowledging that there is like, we're different.
00:28:15.000Like, that's just the reality of the situation.
00:28:17.000So this idea that like we need to reduce everyone down to like just a beige.
00:28:21.000Mass, which is really what the liberal regime has attempted to do.
00:28:25.000Even people in our own ranks have said, I'd like to see everyone just kind of melt into one big ethnicity, global ethnicity.
00:28:32.000I don't know if that's going to create more.
00:28:35.000I don't think people are going to get along any better.
00:28:36.000They'll just find other differences, other identities.
00:28:39.000That's like a throw your hands up hope for it.
00:29:08.000Into the American culture, which is now almost, it's not completely lost, but there has been a substantial, like, just disappearance of the ideals that separated America from all of human history.
00:29:22.000And now it's kind of just going back to the base identifiers.
00:29:42.000And I think what you're getting at is this idea that America, I do think that people that are immigration proponents are correct insofar as America does have this unique ability to incorporate people into the tribe, so to speak, the American tribe, broadly, whatever that means is still up for debate.
00:29:58.000But I do agree that, yes, America, the thing that does separate us from the old world is we do have this ability that no matter where in the world you're from, You do have the ability to assimilate.
00:30:07.000I think the problem has been the volume.
00:30:09.000That is why you're seeing the reaction now under mass migration.
00:30:12.000Jeremy Carl was on the show recently, who has been lumbasted by the media for various things, which is just ridiculous.
00:30:18.000And he's a genius and he's an expert on this topic.
00:30:21.000And he was saying, like, he noticed among his friends and people he's met and whatever that were Indian, they're from India or their parents are from India, who grew up in rural areas or suburbs of smaller towns or in smaller towns or whatever, you name it, were.
00:30:39.000Like they carried a lot of the same characteristics you would expect to see of Americans.
00:30:42.000And he contrasted that with people who are second, even third generation immigrants that grew up in Queens or grew up in Los Angeles or the San Francisco suburbs.
00:30:51.000And he remarked about how they seem to have failed to assimilate.
00:30:55.000It's like, well, because they weren't surrounded by Americans.
00:30:57.000When you drop and you create an ethnic enclave or even an enclave of other ethnic groups that are outside of the main kind of groups in the United States, you are going to fail to assimilate these people.
00:31:57.000Well, and there used to be camps that they would send natives to, and the idea was to kill the savage and save the man, right?
00:32:04.000And they taught them Christianity and things like that.
00:32:06.000Now, you know, 100 years later, where you have a Native American like myself who's Christian fighting for Christianity.
00:32:13.000I don't really see that as a bad thing because for thousands of years, there were warring tribes and various things happening.
00:32:18.000And then the settlers came over, and for the most part, a lot of Native Americans assimilated, and I think are better off for it for the most part.
00:32:28.000But if we just bring people over and we allow the savages to take over, say whatever you want about the camps that they put Natives into.
00:32:44.000It was better overall than what's happening right now, where they're just bringing over hordes of people that don't have any, they don't want to assimilate at all.
00:32:54.000They want to take advantage of the welfare system and they want to only extract and from our system that has been created that we've inherited to protect.
00:33:03.000And I think that what's happening today is far, far worse than what happened to get us to this point.
00:33:10.000So when you talk about people coming over here, there was this idea that we brought.
00:33:14.000People over to share in American values and that they would become American.
00:33:18.000And then, in a lot of ways, those people learned to love the country even more than the people who were born here because they had to learn so much about the country.
00:33:26.000But I think a big part of it is also the hollowing out of the middle class.
00:33:29.000Like, there was a sense of idealism about coming over here before.
00:33:32.000If you were not brought over here necessarily on an H 1B visa, or if you were coming over here to build a better life without, um, you know, an automatic into a corporation or something like that, the idea was that you were going to come over here and you were going to build a life for yourself, white picket fence, you know, family, two kids, whatever it was.
00:33:49.000That was, like you said, a post-racial idea that everybody in America would have access to that.
00:33:54.000But as that amount of people has shrunk and there's more class warfare combined with race warfare in America, like that idea doesn't hold the same sway.
00:34:05.000Well, I mean, I would just posit that in the 21st century, and this is actually something that I discussed with Jeremy Carl, Scott Gruen, Stephen Engine was over there.
00:34:26.000And they're kind of, the Denmark has laid out a great example of how to prevent immigrants from coming and taking advantage of your welfare net.
00:34:32.000But another problem is the modern amenities that are like technology and this interconnected world.
00:34:36.000Like the world feels smaller than ever in many ways.
00:34:38.000If a Westerner comes over here, again, not really difficult because for an American going to Britain or vice versa, well, depending on where you are in Britain, it doesn't feel terribly foreign.
00:34:47.000Like, okay, yeah, there's some differences.
00:34:50.000Particularly when you go to cities, right?
00:34:53.000Like, so if you're in an urban area, if you're in London or New York or LA, yeah, they're all homogenous.
00:34:59.000You can get around basically anywhere, any major city.
00:35:02.000And it's going to be like, okay, it's not going to be the same, but it's going to be broadly familiar, I guess, is what I'm trying to get at, versus if you went to Lagos.
00:35:07.000So versus if you went to New Delhi or you went to Manila and the Philippines.
00:35:12.000You would immediately feel alienated and you would immediately probably have this divide between you and the people.
00:35:17.000I mean, I've traveled pretty much everywhere, and everywhere I've gone that's outside of the West, there's always been a level of discomfort just because I don't understand the place very well.
00:35:25.000And I kind of understand that as an American, I'll never assimilate into this place no matter how long I stayed.
00:35:31.000I would raise my kids Christian, I would give them Christian names.
00:35:33.000Like, you know, there would be this breakdown.
00:35:35.000So, what I guess I'm trying to get at is people that come here from the third world or just really outside of the West in general.
00:35:42.000I don't know if they can still assimilate just because of the internet, because of social media, where you'll see this.
00:35:46.000And I lived in Queens for four years a lot of first and second generation immigrants would engage in and consume more media from their home country than they would from the United States.
00:35:56.000They would continue to send remittances back to their home country.
00:36:50.000It's just the reality of the 21st century that, again, with how interconnected everything is, it's hard to truly break from your home country.
00:36:58.000And I know people that are immigrants and they're terrific people.
00:37:00.000But the difference between them and the majority is that the people that came here and they're terrific and they've assimilated made a conscious effort.
00:37:05.000Like, we're not going to teach our kids our native language.
00:37:08.000We're going to put them in American schools, make them consume American media, give them American names.
00:37:13.000Like, they made a very conscious effort to sort of break to say, we're not going back to India or we're not going back to China or the Philippines or you name it.
00:37:19.000Part of multiculturalism is tied to American export now.
00:37:22.000So I was having a discussion with someone on my channel about The Odyssey.
00:37:28.000We were talking about the casting in The Odyssey, and we were talking about the fact that, look, all the casting controversies that were there, for the most part, they didn't have a ton of screen time except for Himish Patel.
00:37:37.000And he said, you know, cynically, you cast a man from India because there's a million people in India that can watch your movie.
00:37:44.000So America will change, you know, quintessentially Western stories for the sake of capitalist export to the rest of the world because America is a net exporter when it comes to entertainment and things like that.
00:37:56.000So we kind of, in that way, we handicap ourselves because we don't tie ourselves.
00:38:01.000And I'm somebody who comes on the other side of the discussion on this.
00:38:03.000For the most part, those types of swaps in movies have never really bothered me.
00:38:08.000I understand that art is vastly different these days, and they see what they would like to think of as like a colorblind society.
00:38:15.000Though, oddly enough, it means they have to be more color conscious to do the casting for things like that.
00:38:19.000But the idea is that type of change to a Western story is very American to do because America doesn't feel like it has a cohesive cultural identity.
00:38:46.000And I think that with our founding being so tied to Christianity, it's without that, I think that we just will become one of the world.
00:38:58.000Well, without religion, without a religion to kind of bind your people together, man can't live without religion.
00:39:08.000Whether or not they like it, whether or not they realize it, a man can live without religion, but societies can't because you base your fundamental principles on something.
00:39:17.000And the US, our fundamental principles were unquestionably based on Christianity.
00:39:22.000And as you remove those principles, as you remove those ideals, then they're replaced with something else.
00:39:28.000Well, and you have to be precise about what specifically, when you're saying Christianity, well, it's like there's 2 billion roughly adherents of Christianity globally.
00:39:36.000The United States had a very particular expression of Christianity, which was.
00:39:40.000Among the general population, sort of a low church kind of Protestantism.
00:39:45.000And what you're seeing now is there's still a lot of Christians coming to the country, but they have a sort of different understanding of Christianity.
00:39:52.000And I think you can't really detach the United States from its foundation.
00:39:57.000And so you do need to analyze, okay, what did Christianity look like in the 18th, 19th, even early 20th century?
00:40:06.000Well, and the Episcopalians dominated the elite, but you look among the low church, and it was low church Anglicanism, it was Methodists, et cetera.
00:40:13.000I'm not just referencing Catholicism here, where Catholicism has grown.
00:40:17.000And it's something that I think the founders would be pretty horrified by.
00:40:21.000But I think the founders would equally be horrified at the current manifestation of evangelicalism.
00:40:24.000Where evangelicalism, and I'll just say where it's like evangelicalism now, where you see sort of these big box mega churches that are non denominational and they don't really have any.
00:40:36.000They're very high on ecumenicalism, right?
00:40:37.000They're just like, we're all Christians.
00:40:39.000There's no accountability really in these churches.
00:40:43.000I'm not really hating on anyone that is of either of these faiths.
00:40:45.000I'm just making the point that, like, this is evidence of the derastination of the United States because that megachurch model and Catholicism can both be replicated at any point, anywhere in the world, at any time, where the previous, you know, understanding of Christianity, really until like the 1960s and 70s, was distinctly, uniquely American.
00:41:02.000And I think this is what helps like national unity is this was the same in Europe.
00:41:06.000Like, you know, you had the Dutch were all Dutch reformed, the Germans were like Lutheran, and the South, they were Catholic, the British were Anglicans, the Swedes were, you know, they had a specific type of Lutheranism.
00:41:14.000So, you would see this like distinct expressions of Christianity that were intrinsically tied to the culture of the country.
00:41:21.000And what you're seeing now, I guess, is what I'm trying to get at, is what the type of manifestation of Christianity you're seeing in the United States now is a very globalist expression of Christianity, whether it is Catholicism or whether it is sort of big box non denominational.
00:41:32.000Well, and a lot of those do, like a lot of missionary work is done that way, right?
00:41:36.000Because the big churches end up having people going all over the world.
00:41:40.000Well, what's ironic is that the missionaries of sort of, I guess you would maybe say mainline Protestantism would be the accurate description, were so effective that you're seeing now there's more Presbyterians, more Anglicans in Africa than there is in their.
00:41:54.000Traditional home nations of the United Kingdom, of the United States.
00:41:58.000So, as the U.S., I'll just reference the U.S. here, as the U.S. becomes more non denominational and more Catholic, and you see kind of the decline of traditional Protestantism that would have been familiar to the founders and early Americans, the more that expression does grow in places like Africa, albeit they've put their own spin on it, but at least like the core theological tenets are there and to some degree the aesthetics.
00:42:19.000And so that's always kind of fascinating to me is like, I agree, you cannot divorce the United States from Christianity, but it's also a very specific type of Christianity because You know, Haiti is also like 80% Christian, but I would really kind of argue like that.
00:42:32.000I would dispute the idea that the Christianity that Americans have historically had and the Christianity you find in Haiti is fairly similar, albeit some core theological, you know.
00:42:41.000I think we're kind of seeing the ramifications of removing our representation in government from God.
00:42:49.000Because in 1962, when the Supreme Court decided, you know, the separation of church and state as if that was written in the Constitution, and they, they, Implemented that throughout the entire government.
00:43:00.000That separated the family unit by devaluing marriage.
00:43:04.000And then they came up with no fault divorce, the birth control pill.
00:43:07.000I mean, all of that stuff kind of added on to it.
00:43:09.000But we're now seeing a culture that has been raised without God tying them together.
00:43:18.000So we're seeing, I mean, even if, like myself, I come from divorced parents.
00:43:24.000The first son that I had was from my high school sweetheart, not my current wife.
00:43:29.000And so it's like there's been ripples of this happening for a long time.
00:43:35.000And with the actual separation of church and state, what we have now has led to a lot of these issues that we're seeing throughout the country and no way to assimilate the foreigners that they're bringing in because we don't really have that shared culture, that shared American culture that used to be.
00:43:55.000Well, and I was just going to say, I mean, to kind of piggyback off what you're saying too, is and we still have the framework.
00:44:00.000Of Christianity, but the way it manifests in like the modern American is they'll say, Well, I'm not religious, I'm very spiritual, or I believe in God, but they won't really drill down on what God is talking about, which means like I am my own God.
00:44:11.000And so, really, what's happening here is people are, it's almost worse than what's happening in Europe to some degree, where in Europe, they're very comfortable saying, I'm not religious, like I don't believe in God, et cetera.
00:44:20.000Where in America, people have this idea of God that really exists for the sole purpose of like re emphasizing what they already believe, or for the sole purpose of validating these bad decisions that they're making.
00:44:31.000And this is very common in the United States.
00:45:53.000That's the case with pretty much every religion, insofar as historically with Christianity, there was a pretty good dividing line between if you're a Christian or not, where now, because it has gotten so watered down and now because there is so much wriggle room and whatnot, people are able to shop around and find an expression of really religion broadly, but specifically Christianity that does kind of steel man what they already believe.
00:46:14.000This is the whole reason that I still call myself agnostic, right?
00:46:18.000Like, I don't feel comfortable telling people that I'm a Christian because I'm not 100% sure that I believe in God or that Christ was the Son of God, right?
00:46:32.000If I were to say, well, you know, I was raised Catholic, so I'm kind of a Christian, blah, blah, blah, and him and Haw about it or kind of like, you know, mince words so that way I can, you know, make the person I'm talking to feel comfortable or whatever, or I can smooth the conversation over, then you're lying.
00:46:50.000And the whole point is, The whole point of Christianity is you believe Christ is God.
00:46:54.000And I don't understand why people have this desire to kind of not actually tell the truth, which is no, I don't, I'm not a Christian, or I'm not sure of what I believe.
00:47:08.000You kind of brought it up earlier with saying that, I mean, Christianity has been bastardized to the point where it's almost synonymous with being nice.
00:47:16.000And Christians, there's James Tallarico.
00:47:21.000I mean, it is exclusionary, like you said, in a lot of ways.
00:47:25.000And You know, it's kind of been boiled down, you know, with our holidays and everything and the way that it's been marketed over the years.
00:47:33.000You know, it's more about the tree now than it is the birth of Christ.
00:47:37.000And that's a leftist position to try and straw man an argument.
00:47:41.000Anytime you push back on anything they do, they're like, well, that's not very Christian of you.
00:47:46.000But and I think what Phil was getting at is a really interesting thing because that's actually a very uniquely American thing to be at the point where you're functionally agnostic or even potentially functionally atheist, but you still claim that you're Christian.
00:47:59.000Is actually a very uniquely American thing.
00:48:00.000This doesn't really occur anywhere else in the world.
00:48:02.000And I think the reason for that is actually ingrained in the American DNA.
00:48:06.000Because if you look at the time of the founding, and people have pointed out that some founders were indeed deists.
00:48:11.000But what's interesting is if you were to go to George Washington or Thomas Jefferson and press them on this, they would identify as Anglicans.
00:48:17.000And also, the overwhelming majority of America, I think it was 80 to 90% of Americans, actually upwards of 90% of Americans, identified as Christian.
00:48:24.000And they would be able to, they had high biblical literacy, so they would be able to explain Christianity at a very high level.
00:48:28.000But what's interesting is at the time of the founding in 1776, Only about 20% of Americans regularly attended church.
00:48:34.000So, what you had was a cultural Christianity and a population that was highly literate, very intelligent, that had a very good understanding of Christianity, and they were able to correctly identify that the structure that they exist in exists because of Christianity.
00:48:48.000So, they ought to carry themselves in a Christian way, promote Christian values, even if they themselves weren't convinced on the resurrection or something like that.
00:48:57.000Where now, we're kind of in this era where Christianity is kind of difficult to see around you these days.
00:49:04.000Because of how bad things have gotten to your point, how much the government has seemed to distance itself from Christianity.
00:49:08.000People don't have that knee jerk reaction.
00:49:11.000People don't have any biblical literacy.
00:49:12.000People can't even explain what Easter is.
00:49:14.000So instead, you just get the schizophrenic outgrowth of that historical American tendency, which is, oh, I'm spiritual and you have a rabbit's foot and tarot cards or whatever.
00:49:30.000What else do you see as core tenets of the American identity?
00:49:33.000Because I was just thinking a couple weeks ago, it wasn't even that long ago, where everybody was talking about the World Cup and people from all over the world were coming to America and they were loving things about America, which basically boiled down to Bucky's.
00:49:48.000But it was Americans who are starved for anybody not hating them were excited about the idea that people found things about America that they liked.
00:49:55.000I'm just curious what you think of as other core tenants of the American identity.
00:50:01.000What I like to believe would be if an American, let's, all right, I have a little fascination with wolves, okay?
00:50:11.000So if the American itself was a wolf and it was looking at a dog, like a domesticated dog, And it had a collar on and it had a master.
00:50:20.000I picture the American as the wolf, the one who is willing to go without the guaranteed meal every day and without being owned, would rather just go hungry and find its own way rather than live a fat, happy life being domesticated.
00:50:46.000So, me and my girlfriend were talking about this the other day and we were talking about like, Why America is better than other countries, why the people of America are better, right?
00:50:53.000And when the country was founded, particularly, the people that were likely to leave Europe and come to the United States had a certain mindset and a certain outlook on their own lives and their own capabilities.
00:51:08.000Because if you get on a boat for five weeks or whatever it takes to get across the ocean when you're not guaranteed to get there, right?
00:51:16.000You have to have a certain amount of belief in your own agency.
00:51:21.000So all the people that came to the To basically to the colonies, to the new country.
00:51:28.000And all the people that came here, basically up until the 60s, they were all people that believed in their own agency.
00:51:35.000You didn't accidentally get to America.
00:51:38.000You came to America because you wanted to make something of yourself.
00:51:42.000You were the kind of person that believed you made things happen in the world.
00:51:46.000When you look at modern times and the people that are brought in, whether it be as however, right, if they're here, Because they came illegally or what have you, if they got some program the government gave out.
00:52:00.000Those people are not people that believe that they make things happen in their lives.
00:52:06.000They believe that things happen to them.
00:52:08.000So, the reason that America is the best country in the world and has been basically the indispensable country for at least the first 200 and 225 years of its existence was because the people that are in America have a certain outlook on life.
00:52:25.000And of course, then not every single person that lived in America was the same.
00:52:29.000But they were the descendants of people that said, I can get on that boat and I can go to America and I can make something of myself.
00:53:07.000You see it with people in society now.
00:53:10.000People that are like, oh, you know, my life, my lot in life is so bad and all this happened to me and this happened to me and this happened to me and this happened to me.
00:53:17.000All these bad things and all this stuff happened to me.
00:53:20.000And then there are people that said, no, I went and I did this.
00:54:16.000One is you look in the North, there was the Puritans, they had this hyper Calvinism that existed, that preeminated in the North.
00:54:23.000And what lasted out of that, out of the Puritan culture, was this idea that I am destined to do this by God.
00:54:30.000This idea that everything has been predestined, that God has put me here for a very specific reason, and what's over those hills is mine because God said so.
00:54:37.000And then, secondarily, is to your point, the stock that came here, which was wherever you came from, you came here because you said, I want to just go to that frontier.
00:54:47.000You know, that video of the penguin charging towards the mountain, that was the sort of the ethos of a lot of early settlers and continued into the 19th century.
00:54:54.000The evidence for this is well, who populated the frontier during the colonial era?
00:55:00.000Well, where did the Scots Irish come from?
00:55:01.000Well, they came from what is today Northern Ireland.
00:55:03.000Well, what made the Scots Irish unique?
00:55:06.000Well, they were a different group that was brought to Ireland and they were fighting with the native population there, the Irish people in Ireland.
00:55:14.000So they already kind of had this understanding of being on the frontier.
00:55:17.000They had this understanding of kind of being somewhere that.
00:55:35.000And this continued all the way into the Wild Western movies.
00:55:37.000If you think about all the famous pioneers and then you think about these famous characters in these Wild West stories, they typically have names that come from, again, the borderlands in Europe, of Northern Ireland, of Scotland.
00:55:50.000So that's kind of ultimately the perfect storm that came about in the United States.
00:55:54.000Which basically you had the Anglo Protestant culture, which has been demonstrated to create fantastic systems, legal codes, et cetera, as demonstrated by Australia, even their former colonies, but Australia, Canada, New Zealand.
00:56:05.000And then you supercharged that with this hyper Calvinism that came from the Puritans and this frontier spirit that just seemingly only America truly ever captured.
00:56:25.000Yeah, so it's just, I think it's like, it's, it's, it's, It's not enough to just posit that America is unique because we're entrepreneurial.
00:56:32.000There's a specific ethos in the United States that came about because of historical events, but the specific kind of people that came here that these three factors that I outlined all combined created the United States.
00:56:44.000It's not, my point isn't entrepreneurial.
00:56:46.000Sure, I know what you mean, but I'm just saying this is how most people say, well, Americans, what makes us different from Canadians, for example?
00:57:04.000And a lot of that ethos is still carried into the modern day.
00:57:07.000Well, yeah, I mean, your grandparents and your great grandparents and stuff like that, that actually does make a difference in the person that you are.
00:57:14.000And it's why the left can't recapture the idea of celebrating America.
00:57:28.000But everybody knows that even if you get rid of Donald Trump, when it comes down to it, they have this postmodern idea of what America is and they refuse to be proud of their past or their history.
00:57:38.000Because they have the original sin of slavery.
00:57:43.000And the rest of it has been watered down by culture so much where there have been articles written and infographics created about why American exceptionalism is a bad idea and why we actually need to quash that because it's a sign of white supremacy, just like individualism and all of those things where it's like you could have the most liberal values in the world.
00:58:05.000And as long as you love where you're from here, you'll never be truly accepted there.
00:58:10.000Because I still believe in a lot of ways, I still have a lot of traditionally.
00:58:14.000When you said earlier, when we were talking about a post racial society, there's so many millennials where that still resonates with them because that was the culture they grew up in.
00:58:33.000But also, you know, people who thought you should just accept that people are going to dog on you.
00:58:39.000And I was just always confused as to why you could be born into a place of immense.
00:58:44.000You know, not wealth necessarily like you were born wealthy, but to be born into American middle class still means that you essentially hit the lottery.
00:58:52.000Even being born into lower middle class in America, you have hit the lottery.
00:58:56.000The poorest American is still better off than 99% of the world.
00:59:00.000And the idea that there were people who held the same liberal concepts and values that I did, but hated where they were from, meant that I was never going to traditionally fit in with them the way that it would anywhere else.
00:59:12.000And what you're talking about is the idea that you would go out every day and risk a world.
00:59:16.000Where you're not going to know where your next meal is going to come from, where you're going to take a chance in yourself rather than just take the safest route forward.
00:59:25.000That idea has been chipped away at in Western society, in America especially, right?
00:59:29.000Part of the reason why it's been chipped away at is because the people that have been coming to America since the 60s largely don't share that kind of ethos.
00:59:38.000They don't share the belief that they happen to the world as opposed to the world happening to them.
00:59:45.000In addition to that, the evidence for.
00:59:49.000At the core of the American identity is sort of the frontier, so to speak, and that sort of attitudes that sort of emanate out of that is the fact that when, you know, think about like Erling Holland, the soccer player in the World Cup, he came here and out of all the different sort of avatars of America that he could have chose to, you know, kind of LARP as, he wore a cowboy hat and he had cowboy boots and this sort of thing.
01:00:30.000But for some reason, people from all around the world associate the cowboy hat with the United States.
01:00:35.000Is it just because it's a uniquely interesting character?
01:00:37.000Well, no, it's because they have identified that the cowboy really is the avatar of the United States insofar as he is the frontiersman.
01:00:43.000He is the guy that is just trudging into the wilderness and making it his own.
01:00:47.000He's setting up fences and he's setting up homes and this sort of thing.
01:00:49.000And so that's why left wing people fail to ever truly capture the American hearts and minds and fail to truly capture the American ethos is because their understanding of America is to your point.
01:00:59.000The world happens to me and I have to react accordingly, typically in government policy andor city centers, which, yes, we've always had cities in the United States.
01:01:08.000Philadelphia was the second largest city in the entirety of the British Empire at the founding.
01:01:11.000But even Americans who lived in Philadelphia, Teddy Roosevelt's a great example.
01:01:15.000Teddy Roosevelt was a New Yorker, but we associate him with the West.
01:01:29.000We're going to jump to this story here.
01:01:31.000And we're going to then, once I read the piece from the BBC, we're going to toss it to tape because he's got some thoughts on this.
01:01:38.000From the BBC, Anne Whitcomb was hit on the head 21 times with a hammer, prosecutors say.
01:01:43.000So this is a British politician that was murdered in her own home.
01:01:49.000Anne Whitcomb was hit on the head with a hammer 21 times at her home as she ate lunch in an attack that was caught on camera.
01:01:55.000Prosecutors have told Westminster Magistrates Court.
01:01:59.000Prosecutor Kashif Malik said the man charged with her murder, Joshua Carey, arrived at her house on 8 July in a red Vauxhall Corsa and entered through the front door.
01:02:09.000Carey, who prosecutors say was in the property for two minutes and was wearing black gloves, then allegedly hit Whipcomb repeatedly with a hammer in her kitchen, tipped her from her chair, and took her wallet before driving off.
01:02:19.000The 28 year old from South Yorkshire also later appeared at the Old Bailey and was remanded in custody.
01:02:25.000At the Old Bailey hearing, prosecutor Alistair Richardson said the attack on Whitcomb had been carried out with a ferocity of violence.
01:02:31.000Malik told the court that Whitcomb did not attend a prearranged online interview with Channel 5's Matt Ulrich, a show that had been scheduled for just before 1300 British Standard Time on 8 July.
01:02:43.000The show's production team tried to contact Whitcomb, blah, So, Tate, can you go ahead and tell our viewers a little bit about who Eddie Whitcomb was and how this is relevant to?
01:03:17.000I've been kind of struggling to think of an analog in the United States.
01:03:19.000The closest I could maybe think of would maybe be Sarah Palin, insofar as someone that says, I remember when she was in office, but now I know her as a commentator.
01:03:27.000That would be kind of the equivalent, you know, the social.
01:03:29.000Conservatism, the Christianity, et cetera.
01:03:31.000But the two things that are interesting about her is first of all, again, that she, it wouldn't be hyperbole to draw some comparisons to the Charlie Kirk situation insofar as a prominent commentator.
01:03:41.000Secondarily, what's interesting about her is that she was kind of enemy number one of the LGBT people in Britain.
01:03:50.000But when LGBT people were thinking about, you know, who is, whose existence and words is, you know, existential, is an existential threat to my identity, to my existence.
01:04:00.000It would be Anne Whitacombe being the avatar of that traditional conservative Christian.
01:04:06.000No, because J.K. Rowling is still functionally left wing.
01:04:08.000She just happens to be on the other side of the trans issue, where Anne Whitacombe was across the board a very conventional Christian conservative.
01:04:16.000So, this is why I said it's not hyperbole to draw comparisons to the Charlie Kirk assassination insofar as, and I don't mean this in any negativity towards Charlie or Anne, but in order to be someone that would decide to go and kill these people, You would have to be radicalized to such an insane degree to actually decide to do this because these are not radical dissident figures.
01:04:41.000These are mainstream figures who I contest are strictly conservative, strictly Christian.
01:04:51.000But again, they viewed these people as existential threats.
01:04:54.000Their very existence was a threat to them.
01:04:56.000Is there evidence that this was politically motivated?
01:04:58.000So, what's interesting, this is why this is becoming a bit scandalous, has been the British police's response to this.
01:05:03.000So, this occurred in Devon, a very safe part of the country.
01:05:07.000The killer came from 300 miles away, which in American terms is like, you know, 1,000 miles and 1,500 miles.
01:05:12.000But what's interesting is the British police have drip fed evidence from what's happened here.
01:05:17.000They've drip fed evidence and drip fed.
01:05:22.000Events to the British people, I think, because they're trying to prevent the outrage that occurred in the United States when Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
01:05:29.000And with Charlie Kirk, it was obvious right away that it was political.
01:06:02.000Then the police came out and they said, okay, no, it was actually, we suspect there was foul play, but it was actually a burglary gone wrong.
01:06:08.000And then this is when everyone's alarm bells started going off as they said, well, how did you go from fell in her home and died to burglary gone wrong?
01:06:24.000I think is what the official narrative was.
01:06:25.000Then it turned to burglary gone wrong.
01:06:28.000And then three days later, the story breaks that the counterterrorism unit has taken over the case.
01:06:33.000So I think everyone at that moment, if you didn't suspect that it was politically motivated before, at that point said, why would counterterrorism get involved in a burglary gone wrong?
01:06:42.000And then the BBC, as you talked about, then reported that the suspect had been arrested.
01:06:47.000We saw a picture of him right away and it was political, if you know physiognomy.
01:06:51.000And then secondarily, the news came out that she was bashed in the head 21 times with a hammer, which.
01:06:57.000You know, if you're a police officer and you're reporting to a scene, I think you would know the difference between someone falling down and then her head being caved into the hammer.
01:07:05.000Secondarily, you would know the difference between a burglary gone wrong and being overhead hit with the hammer.
01:07:10.000The suspect did steal her purse or her wallet.
01:07:12.000It doesn't really say what specifically he took, but it was like her, you know, bag carrying money or whatever.
01:07:17.000But again, going all the way down to Devon to go into the home of a very prominent conservative Christian activist and murdering her while she was eating lunch.
01:08:18.000So, not until this trial is done, we can't, on good authority, you know, legally come out and say this is clearly an example of leftist violence.
01:08:26.000We can say we suspect that that's the case, but that's what they wanted.
01:08:32.000In theory, but people get sued for this kind of stuff all the time.
01:08:34.000So, this is what's so interesting is that, again, they've intentionally, I don't think they're incompetent, they're highly competent.
01:08:38.000They understand that if they let the actual, what actually happened, which they already know, the people in the police department already know what happened, if they laid out the facts and said, yeah, it was a leftist that came and killed a prominent Christian conservative, Charlie Kirk 2.0.
01:08:52.000They understand that Farage, who's surging in the polls, can capitalize on this, and they don't want that's a disaster for them.
01:08:57.000Anne Whitacombe was a member of the Reform UK party.
01:09:00.000She was, you know, friends with Farage.
01:09:02.000Farage clearly was deeply disturbed by what happened, obviously.
01:09:05.000So, again, this is just super inconvenient for a government, for a system that is, Playing defense right now for what we've been saying as conservatives, as right wingers in the UK and the United States, what we've been saying, what we've been saying, we're afraid of this.
01:09:19.000This is why we want to go in a different direction.
01:09:21.000That manifested, that's like a nightmare scenario for them.
01:09:24.000So that's why the information here is being drip fed, why the BBC is almost reluctantly reporting this.
01:09:30.000And I think it's pretty obvious what happened here.
01:09:33.000And the question, I guess, would be what's going to happen?
01:09:36.000Well, the guy's going to get thrown in jail, and that's probably it.
01:09:38.000What do they know about the suspect, Matt?
01:09:46.000There's two things that have been suspected.
01:09:49.000The first one is a little bit more innocuous than the second thing.
01:09:53.000The first thing is that he had pictures or posters of reform headquarters, prominent figures on his wall in his house, which is very strange behavior.
01:10:03.000His neighbors said that he was very withdrawn.
01:10:06.000He was very kind of skittish and standoffish and antisocial.
01:10:14.000And then secondarily, Uh, the information about him that is suspected is that it appears that he was on the roles andor a donor of your party, which is this upstart far left party in the United Kingdom, which was started by like a literal Islamist and Jeremy Corbyn, who is by proxy an Islamist.
01:10:32.000So he was part of not quite Antifa level leftism, but certainly past DSA leftism, I think would be fair to say.
01:10:40.000That is sort of what's suspected he was a part of, just based off of what people have been able to dig up.
01:10:45.000Again, this will all come out in the trial, um, because.
01:10:48.000The government there has just kept a lid on everything.
01:10:51.000I think that this is why people believe that there's like a worldwide conspiracy through media, like that there's an agenda through media, is because it almost seems like no matter what country it is, if it's a Western country and the media is reporting on it, there's always going to be a bias one way.
01:11:08.000And I mean, you can look at the stories that we covered tonight, right?
01:11:14.000ICE officer shoots protester and they're always upfront about it and they're making links that aren't necessarily there, but they want to paint it in this particular way.
01:11:22.000But then you have a very prominent figure in Britain be brutally murdered in her own house.
01:11:29.000And it's the way it's laid out from the media, it's not obvious that they're trying to defend it as opposed to just lay it out there.
01:11:42.000Yeah, they want every reasonable doubt to be given immediately and for the duration until it's reluctance.
01:11:47.000I mean, that would be the word you would use here is they understand, the BBC understands they have to report this one because they all knew her.
01:11:54.000And I know people personally that were.
01:11:56.000Friendly with her that knew her personally, and they've all said she's the most lovely, friendly woman in the world.
01:12:00.000They're not just, and one of them said, and I'm not just saying that because she's in the news, like I would have told you that a week ago.
01:12:05.000So, all these people in the media know her, they probably have a relationship with her.
01:12:10.000So, the fact that they understand they have to report it, but what you're hitting on is the reluctance to actually disclose what actually went down because it would be so politically inconvenient for them.
01:12:19.000Remember when the photo came out of Trump and Butler, and they were like, Trump fell over on stage, yeah, yeah, that's what it's reluctance, where again, if.
01:12:31.000And I mean, it's the most moot point in the world where, I mean, it's almost like cliche at this point, but it's true.
01:12:35.000Is that again, if a situation like this happened?
01:12:38.000I mean, think about the Paul Pelosi thing, and this is what this guy actually did, is what they described happened to Paul Pelosi is actually what happened to Ann Whitacombe.
01:12:51.000And, you know, and if heaven forbid there was ever, you know, a similar Charlie Kirk style thing that would happen, and again, heaven forbid, I really genuinely don't want that.
01:13:09.000I mean, that just tells you all I need to know.
01:13:10.000If they can get their hands on any politically convenient situation like this, they run it into the ground where it happens to the right all the time.
01:13:19.000Whenever we talk about this stuff, I'm like, it won't matter because they'll report on it, like you say, reluctantly.
01:13:24.000And then eventually it'll get buried and they'll stop covering it in a day or two and it disappears from the news cycle.
01:13:29.000And as soon as it disappears from the cultural discussion, it's out of the minds of the people that you could actually sway the opinions of, the ones who haven't been radicalized to either side yet.
01:14:06.000And they know that the most nefarious way of preventing people from learning about this stuff isn't.
01:14:11.000By covering it even in the most salacious of ways or trying to bend the narrative.
01:14:16.000It's just simply not covering it after the initial story.
01:14:19.000And to Tate's point, the slow drip really takes the edge off of it, right?
01:14:24.000To put out a little bit of information about it, then a little bit, because then that also gives them cover.
01:14:28.000They can say when it actually gets to trial, well, we talked about it, we have this.
01:14:31.000And then if you end up getting into an argument, they'll pull up the different stories that came out over the course of six months from when the event actually happened.
01:14:42.000To when the person was arrested, to when the trial started.
01:14:45.000But it's not something, it's not distributed the way that if it was politically convenient for them.
01:14:52.000Yeah, and the right in Britain is not hesitant to demonstrate at all when there is a situation like this.
01:14:59.000We've seen this countless times whenever there's a high profile incident like this, like the Henry Novak stabbing a few months ago, demonstrations immediately.
01:15:06.000So the right in the United Kingdom does have a unique ability compared to the United States to mobilize quickly to demonstrate, et cetera.
01:15:13.000It takes a lot for conservatives in the United States to actually demonstrate in large numbers.
01:15:23.000But I guess the question is here with what you're saying, your black pilled is what's happening here?
01:15:29.000Is there currently straws accumulating on a camel's back right now when you have the Henry Novak stabbing?
01:15:34.000I mean, we could go through all the incidents that are happening on a kingdom.
01:15:37.000Are there currently straws amassing on the camel's back?
01:15:41.000Or is the camel standing in the wind right now?
01:15:43.000And every time a straw falls on his back, it gets blown away immediately?
01:15:45.000That would be the kind of the imperative question.
01:15:48.000Are these kind of things, is there a ledger in the heads of British patriots right now saying, okay, like this is getting to the point where enough is enough?
01:15:55.000Or to your point, is everything moving so quickly or people to kind of, I don't want to say self absorb necessarily as a derogative, it's just kind of the reality of the world we live in that they kind of just forget how angry they were in that moment.
01:16:05.000I mean, after the Henry Novak stabbing, everyone was really angry in the United States, after the Charlie Kirk assassination, after the Arena Zroutska murder, everyone was really angry.
01:16:13.000Do people still possess that same level of anger?
01:16:16.000Maybe some people say they do, but I really don't.
01:16:20.000I think this is actually leading to the radicalization.
01:16:23.000I almost feel like news stories like this, in the way that the media is run in general, is to appease boomers.
01:16:31.000And like once the boomers are gone, it's, I mean, the radicalization, not just in America, but just in the West in general, it's going to get exponentially worse rapidly.
01:17:07.000And at least I feel like young people do.
01:17:09.000Well, it's like when you have a jury trial and they try and put, like, the person is guilty, but the defense is to push it out as long as you possibly can, push the trial date back, hope people forget about what happened.
01:17:20.000So when they pick a jury selection, people have no idea and don't care as much.
01:17:25.000There's not this outrage surrounding the case anymore.
01:17:35.000And I think one thing that we're seeing here, we've seen in the United States, is we're seeing where democracy's strength is.
01:17:41.000And so far as it doesn't matter how radical the population gets, right?
01:17:45.000Like, I would say the median Republican is, and I'm not saying they're necessarily misguided here, is convinced that there's pedophiles running the government, that there's a satanic cabal, they're covering up UFOs, that everything is trying to kill them at all times.
01:17:57.000The left believes even like far crazier things than that.
01:18:00.000I mean, they believe that like literally every police officer is killing 10,000 black people a day or whatever.
01:18:17.000In the case of Donald Trump, I would say he's the most decisive figure that's ever been elected.
01:18:19.000But we're seeing democracy's strength of containing revolution.
01:18:22.000And the question is, or I guess what I'm trying to get at is, it doesn't really matter how radicalized boomers get, or even at this point, Gen Xers get, because the fighting is going to be done by young people.
01:18:32.000If there's a revolution, it's going to be done by young people.
01:18:35.000And young people in the system that we've created right now.
01:18:37.000Are the least able to actually conduct themselves in this revolution because they already feel under the gun anyway.
01:18:42.000They're not going to risk sticking their head out of the foxhole and getting shot.
01:18:47.000Well, I'm just going to say so basically, if we go back to my original analogy about the wolf and the domesticated dogs, is that we're, even if you are that wolf, you're still in a dog park in the city.
01:19:00.000Like, there's not much, you'll just be the outsider and you'll be cast out.
01:19:30.000The reality is, we got to live in reality here.
01:19:32.000If we're like serious about impacting politics and Donald Trump understands this perfectly, is you kind of just have to vote your way out of it.
01:19:40.000It doesn't sell on YouTube, but that's how political change has happened thus far.
01:19:45.000We haven't had any serious revolutions in this country in a very long time.
01:19:48.000Donald Trump has been seemingly the first person that's at least shaken things up.
01:19:52.000Social media ends up taking the edge off.
01:19:55.000It's the dopamine hit they get from talking about all of the revolution that they want to start.
01:19:59.000Yeah, it siphons off that energy so they can learn.
01:20:01.000It's like when you talk about you want to do something so much, it kind of destroys your will to want to do it because you keep trying to talk, you keep talking about it, not actually doing it.
01:20:09.000Well, that's the thing is like the human being.
01:20:12.000When they talk about something, they get the same dopamine hit that they get when they do something, which is part of the reason why, like, when you hear people that are saying they want to make a change in their life, whatever, stop talking about it.
01:20:24.000Don't tell people, don't talk about it.
01:20:27.000Go do something that actually moves you towards the goal that you have.
01:20:45.000Well, I meet these people in DC and other power, you know, vectors around the world or power, you know, centers around the world.
01:20:52.000And like the most influential people you've never heard, and this is like, I mean, it's a trope, but it's true, is that the most influential people.
01:21:21.000It's not, you know, it's not, they're not scoring every single time.
01:21:24.000It's just slowly advancing back and forth.
01:21:26.000They're like football, you know, it's not a touchdown every single play.
01:21:28.000It's just slowly advancing the ball up the field a few yards at a time.
01:21:32.000Instead of attempting a Hail Mary every single play, you're going to get picked off and lose the game.
01:21:36.000To your point, that's something that I tend to talk to or tend to relate to callers a lot, right?
01:21:42.000Callers come in with this fire and all this vim and vinegar, and they're like, blah, And there's nothing in blah, blah, blah.
01:21:50.000I don't want to vote for Republicans because they blah, blah, blah.
01:21:52.000And I'm like, well, did you work to get someone that you liked elected in the primaries?
01:21:59.000And then it's like, they're deflated because they have all this energy.
01:22:03.000And they're because they read something today or the national elections coming up soon and they realized it.
01:22:11.000But, like, the time to actually exercise the little amount of political power you have was a year and a half ago or a year ago when you were, when you should have been out there knocking on doors for the guy that's primarying the guy that you hate.
01:22:26.000And to your point, like you said, this is going to be decided by voting.
01:22:30.000It has to, you have to vote your way out of it.
01:22:33.000And so get involved in the political process.
01:22:35.000And again, to your point, it's not sexy.
01:22:37.000It's not pretty, but Scott Pressler made real, tangible changes in Pennsylvania.
01:22:44.000One guy moved to Pennsylvania and registered thousands and thousands and thousands of Republicans to vote, and that actually makes a difference.
01:22:52.000Yeah, and we're seeing that democracy, you know, the system that has been sort of imposed on us in many ways is so flexible.
01:23:01.000Like it can get way worse than it is right now.
01:23:19.000But that country should have collapsed a really long time ago and it still hasn't.
01:23:24.000I think the reality, and it's unfortunate, but the situation we're in is that Fukuyama was on to something that liberal democracy really is kind of this, uh, this albatross.
01:23:35.000So, okay, I could sit back and like wait.
01:23:38.000And it's like, okay, when this collapses, my ideology will rise from the ashes.
01:23:41.000There's eight other people at the table with vastly different views who are saying the same thing.
01:23:45.000You're going to go at it with all the, like, it's just, it's nonsensical.
01:23:48.000It's like, dude, you got to participate in what's viable now, what actual options do you have, and then pick the most viable option that you have.
01:23:55.000I think a lot of people have felt disenfranchised.
01:23:58.000I mean, in a way, I've kind of become one of those people because, I mean, 2020 kind of changed my view on the world and I decided that I was going to start getting involved because a lot of men that I respected and looked up to, Benthony took the jab.
01:24:15.000Followed the mandates and basically helped enforce it on others.
01:24:22.000And then, you know, I saw what Joe Biden was doing, started advocating for Donald Trump.
01:24:28.000And I believe that he was going to, you know, focus on the overstepping wannabe tyrants that, you know, overstepped their bounds back in 2020 and are continuing to do so in places like Washington State right now.
01:24:42.000You know, like we don't really have a voice in Washington State.
01:25:33.000And then I eventually left the job because of the ridiculous rules that they imposed on me.
01:25:37.000It's like the things that were happening in Donald Trump's first term, even though that he was, you know, held back, if you want to say, it seemed that it was going in the right direction.
01:25:49.000And this time around, it doesn't, at least from my point of view, it doesn't feel like that anymore.
01:25:54.000It feels like there's strongholds being built.
01:25:57.000And Donald Trump is preoccupied with wars in the Middle East.
01:26:02.000And it's like, and so the people that have been out there, and I'm not saying I made a significant impact on the election in any way, but I mean, I advocated for Donald Trump and I believed what he said.
01:26:16.000I really thought that there were going to be significant changes, that this was our peaceful revolution that we were going to be able to have.
01:26:24.000And instead, what I'm getting is people that are around me that have owned businesses their entire lives are now being taxed out of their dream home that they built with their own hands because of.
01:26:37.000Just the insane taxes being passed in Washington state, and then the price of fuel and that cost everything else goes up because of that.
01:26:45.000And it's like, who am I supposed to be advocating for?
01:26:49.000And the national politics, it's harder to get people.
01:26:54.000I mean, it's easier to get people to vote for, but it's harder to actually make any changes that are going to be significant.
01:27:02.000The conclusion that I've come to is that you have to embody the values you wish to see in this world get married, stay married, have kids, and be involved in.
01:27:09.000Your school, yeah, your local charter, and I mean, it starts there.
01:27:15.000And you know, we have a lot of people online that always say, you know, like you're saying, they get all riled up, and then you know, they're being incredibly promiscuous, and they're just not dedicating their life to one woman and having kids and building a legacy with them.
01:27:31.000It's that American culture, um, that we kind of long for.
01:27:37.000If we continue pretending to fight about national politics or like whether or not we should or shouldn't be, and I Iran right now.
01:27:44.000It's like all that stuff is literally just giving them more power and taking away your autonomy.
01:27:51.000We're becoming more domesticated the more we talk about this overseas war.
01:27:56.000So I'm not, and you know, I don't know how to stop it.
01:27:59.000I don't know how to tell people, you know, that their focus needs to be here.
01:28:05.000And it's like you can't actually change what's going on over there.
01:28:08.000And I know that it's good to voice your opinion and things like that because it can help sway, you know, with.
01:28:13.000The technology we have, it can help sway some things.
01:28:16.000But overall, you know, if you're not embodying the values that you wish to see in this world, then we will lose our country.
01:28:29.000You know, people discuss this like topic at large, but like a specific thing you're hitting on is missteps from the Trump admin sting far more for people that live in blue states, for conservatives that live in blue states.
01:28:38.000Because if you live in a blue state and you happen to love the state you live in, or at least what it used to be, it feels a lot more existential.
01:28:45.000Where if you're in a red state, you're like, oh, Trump screwed up, but like we're good.
01:28:48.000You know, this is all like everything's generally run all right around me.
01:28:51.000So, I think for blue staters, missteps like I think Iran was a terrible call really does sting.
01:28:58.000I guess, like, my count on the other side of that argument, what I would contest is we're not going to really get like a Napoleon in the current system that we have.
01:29:06.000Like, to your point, we are kind of domesticated.
01:29:08.000Like, the system has been set up in a way that it's very rigid.
01:29:12.000Like, it is impossible to really have these, you know, Russian revolution moments or French revolution moments kind of by intention.
01:29:19.000And so, the difficult thing is, while Yes, many people are extremely frustrated with President Trump to the point where they don't even want to vote for the Republican Party or that sort of thing.
01:29:28.000And it's like, I actually totally understand that impulse.
01:29:30.000I'm not one of these people that completely dismisses that.
01:29:33.000I guess my issue is what other show is there in town?
01:29:38.000Because Trump has gotten us to this point where I do think we're at least seeing a slimmer of victory now, where it's like, okay, I could still see how we could win, where I think people forget what it was like during Biden and people really forget what it was like under Obama.
01:29:52.000Where it felt like Hillary Clinton was going to win, and then it was like raps.
01:29:55.000Like people were arranging second passports.
01:29:58.000Same thing in the Biden winner when I was like, Trump, I didn't think he was going to come back.
01:30:03.000You know, we were just going to get stuck with like a neocon or something on the Republican ticket.
01:30:07.000And again, it would just be kind of game over, especially during COVID.
01:30:10.000So I'm like, I share the same frustrations with Trump, especially in Iran.
01:30:14.000I mean, I think Iran's particularly enraging and just a completely unforced blunder.
01:30:20.000But I guess what I'm saying is, I think he's still our most viable political vehicle for our ideas insofar as.
01:30:26.000Again, I don't think there's any other shows in town.
01:30:28.000And I do think the things that the Trump administration has done right are very decisive insofar as breaking up USAID, the increase in immigration.
01:30:36.000We want to see far more deportations, obviously, but at least that we're getting them funding and getting the supplies and setting the foundation, the infrastructure that would be needed for mass deportations.
01:30:44.000I mean, breaking up DEI, like a slew of policies the Trump administration has introduced.
01:30:51.000It's very hard to get people to continue to talk about the wins when people want to focus more on the things that are going wrong.
01:30:56.000Well, and but to Steelman, like what people that are really frustrated with Trump are saying is, They were expecting a Caesar, and what they're getting is, you know, a really good Republican.
01:31:05.000So, you know, I understand why people are really frustrated, especially if you live in a blue state, because it's like, dude, it's like we kind of ran out of time already.
01:31:35.000Maybe 19 trillion dollars, yeah, and now we're almost at 40 trillion, yeah.
01:31:41.000And Trump has been in office for five and a half out of those 10 years, yeah.
01:31:47.000So, the majority of the time he's been in office, and what I see is that, regardless of what I feel is a win right now, we're still robbing wealth from our children, yeah.
01:31:57.000We're there's no way around it, and I don't know how to correct that, um, as of yet, but I mean, yeah, we do get some wins here and there, but those wins are coming at the expense of.
01:32:10.000Well, the national debt is an interesting one because, you know, the only ways to fix the national debt situation, which I totally agree, the only solutions for the national debt, I should say, are completely politically unviable because over half of our spending is, you know, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.
01:32:30.000You even threaten to touch Social Security, you're done.
01:32:59.000The military budget, I think, could be shrunk a little bit, but I would say back down to like $800 billion, which is still a good amount of spending.
01:33:05.000But as far as what's taking, what is continuing this debt cycle, what is causing us to spend more than we're taking in, it is these massive welfare systems that we have.
01:33:15.000And people will hit on low income welfare, and it's like that's a problem.
01:33:18.000But the main problem, because no one wants to talk about it, is Social Security.
01:33:22.000And to your point, it's a political non starter because the most reliable voting bloc in the United States is elderly people, is old people.
01:33:32.000And they're the ones that have, you know, they'll swear up and down, oh, well, I paid into this and I get this money because this is my money that I'm getting back.
01:33:41.000And the average person gets something like 10 times the amount of money that they ever put in from Social Security.
01:33:49.000I mean, that's why I think that so many people on both the left and the right, like, they've stopped thinking about fiscal responsibility because it's just something that you hear politicians talk about to get you to vote, right?
01:34:13.000But the point that I'm making is even on the right now, you've got people that are like, you know, they're like, They think, well, we shouldn't have social programs for immigrants, but we should definitely have social programs for Americans or do something for Americans.
01:34:29.000And it stopped being a situation where there's economically conservative people in America.
01:34:34.000Like you've got a lot of people that are on the right that say, well, there should be programs for Americans because Americans are hurting.
01:34:39.000And it's true, Americans, you know, there are people out there that are, you know, low income that have been in the country, that have had families that have been in the country for generations.
01:35:08.000Everyone's taxes are going to go up by 5% to 10% to manage that bill.
01:35:13.000And the system that we're living in is so unbelievably indefensible insofar as we're transferring wealth from the young, from the capable, to the old and the incapable.
01:35:27.000And so it's just completely indefensible.
01:35:29.000And this is what we touched on at pre show, it's one of the most controversial subjects in conservative media right now.
01:35:35.000This is why I see property tax, the idea of property tax abolition, really is just another form of wealth transfer from the young to the old.
01:35:42.000And the way I would sort of lay this out is if you're not elderly and you're paying property taxes and you're advocating for the abolition of property taxes, I understand that.
01:35:50.000What I'm hitting on here is the main beneficiaries of property tax abolition will be the elderly.
01:35:56.000It will be the elderly because it's the last tax that they really have to pay.
01:36:00.000The big beautiful bill really cut down Social Security taxes.
01:36:02.000So the last real tax that they have to pay is property tax.
01:36:06.000And what's going to happen when you abolish property taxes?
01:36:08.000Are these, as we've hit on, the government's incapable of balancing a budget.
01:36:12.000If they cut property taxes, do you think all these governments, these local governments, the state governments, are going to be like, oh, we're out of this revenue source.
01:36:20.000What's going to end up happening is they're going to pass a cocktail, you know, a slew of taxes, which will directly hit working age adults, which will directly hit the young.
01:36:32.000You know, we saw in Hillsborough County, which is the Tampa Bay, you know, Tampa Bay.
01:36:36.000They, Released a document sort of saying, Here's what we're going to do because Florida is looking like they're going to abolish property tax.
01:36:43.00088% of property taxes in Hillsborough County fund the sheriff's department, fund the fire department, fund the schools, and fund the electoral office, which I think we would all agree are four offices that to varying degrees we support, at least we want to see in our communities.
01:36:57.000So Hillsborough County is saying, Okay, well, how do we fund this?
01:37:13.000So now, if you want to go to a park in Hillsborough County, you're going to be charged a separate tax to fund those parks.
01:37:18.000You're going to pay, you're going to have a higher sales tax.
01:37:22.000And what's going to end up happening is when someone goes to purchase a home, they're going to have all the lost property tax revenue front loaded on the initial purchase of your home.
01:37:30.000So you're still going to be paying for young people that are trying to enter the housing market.
01:37:34.000Your closing costs just went up 20%, 30%, because the county can no longer depend on you for property tax revenue.
01:37:50.000We're going to jump to this last story from Time magazine.
01:37:54.000Community backlash to AI data centers is growing across the U.S. When Laura Beth moved to Cowda County, Georgia in 2023, she was drawn to her new home's rural location.
01:38:04.000It was far from any major roads or highways and had a sprawling open land behind it.
01:38:09.000Our last home, the surrounding area, was becoming very overdeveloped.
01:38:12.000We had a distribution center less than a mile from our house.
01:38:14.000And it was just kind of this urban encroachment, she said.
01:38:17.000We knew about the land behind us and thought the worst thing it could be was a subdivision, because who in their right mind would want to build anything out here?
01:38:23.000Then at the start of 2025, she saw an article announcing that a new data center would be coming to her hometown.
01:38:28.000As she read it, a realization dawned on her a hyperscale data center spanning more than 4.9 million square feet had been proposed and was expected to run right through her backyard.
01:38:37.000I didn't know who to reach out to, who to talk to, who would give me some help or more information, she says, so she decided to start a Facebook group called Stop Project Sale.
01:38:47.000To connect with their neighborhood and with their neighbors and discuss the proposed plan.
01:38:50.000More than 8,000 people have now joined the group and have been organizing petitions, signing, installing yard signs, and mounting a legal fight against Cottoway County and Atlas Development, the company behind the project.
01:39:01.000There are a lot of people that are very, very afraid of data centers.
01:39:06.000So I understand if you've got a data center going up, like right in your suburban neighborhood, that can be off putting.
01:39:16.000But overall, the fear that I hear from people about data centers, they're like, oh, they're.
01:39:20.000They're going to take up all the water and they're going to charge your electricity costs are going to go up.
01:39:26.000And if you do some research with an open mind, because a lot of people that are against data centers are against data centers on an emotional level, right?
01:39:35.000They're like, oh, AI is bad and these data centers are bad.
01:39:55.000The idea that a data center, people have this conception of data centers as if they're just dumping, you know, chemical water into the local river or whatever.
01:40:23.000No, I said, where does the misnomer come from?
01:40:24.000Where does the misconception come from about the water?
01:40:27.000Because that's the number one argument that I hear against it.
01:40:30.000I'm not sure where people got the idea that they use, you know, they contaminate the water, but the way that people kind of articulate it when I hear people.
01:40:37.000I thought it wasn't just contaminated, like they use a lot of fresh water.
01:40:40.000The argument is that, like, it increases your water bill, basically.
01:40:46.000And when you say use water, it's as if, like, they take the water and then it goes away and nobody gets it ever again.
01:40:52.000Like, it just, it's almost like they're, you know, breaking up the chemical composition.
01:40:57.000What were the stories that were coming out where they're like, they thought the, the, Poison lettuce was because all the fresh water is going to the data centers and they were using steam.
01:41:05.000I've heard people say that it makes the water really hot, like heats up the water that it uses.
01:41:10.000Well, when you heat up water, it just turns to steam and then goes into the, you know, it evaporates and it's.
01:42:07.000You're seeing tech companies because they have to publish their quarterly earnings and there's an entire balance sheet.
01:42:13.000Companies like Alphabet, companies like Meta, dude, they're draining their coffers on these data centers.
01:42:18.000So they're really making a big bet on data centers.
01:42:20.000And I think that might be a mistake because if it is true what a lot of economists suspect that there is going to be an AI bubble that pops inevitably, then we're going to have a lot of unused data centers.
01:42:33.000But insofar as the opposition to the data center in and of itself, again, I, Again, I kind of understand, but it's one of those things where I think if you kind of maybe kind of read into it and have a, you know, be a bit open to maybe the idea that these could be potentially beneficial, you would be a bit surprised insofar as I think the main thing about them that I think is interesting is that they provide a massive revenue injection to counties that desperately need them.
01:43:11.000Microsoft in like 06 built a data center there and it massively boosted the revenue for the county.
01:43:17.000They were able to get a much needed source of revenue because most people were moving out of the county and businesses were moving out and that sort of thing.
01:43:22.000And the assessed land value of the homes went up like 1200%, like an insane amount.
01:43:29.000Because A, the data center, even though it doesn't generate as many jobs as people think it might, it does attract very high paying jobs and those people demand.
01:43:38.000You know, more luxury amenities from their homes and that sort of thing.
01:43:41.000And in addition to that, the county was able to now use the generated income to, you know, put it back into the infrastructure, put it back into schools, police, et cetera.
01:43:50.000Do you think that there's a bubble that's going to burst?
01:44:00.000Like, I think the doomers and also the optimists are both overstating the long term trajectory of AI.
01:44:05.000I think the ceiling is kind of coming into view of like what it's capable of.
01:44:09.000And it's not the LLMs that we should be worried about.
01:44:11.000It's just like its actual ability to process data at volume.
01:44:15.000I think that is ultimately what we're seeing the ceiling for.
01:44:18.000And that means that it's going to, again, progress technology and sort of, you know, in many ways change our world.
01:44:25.000But I don't know if it's going to be this like, Dynamic, you know, it's a paradigm changer, like people say it's going to be.
01:44:30.000But I also don't think that it's necessarily overvalued insofar as the ability to process large amounts of data very quickly is worth its weight in gold.
01:44:38.000There's data management companies you never heard of that are making a killing because they are able to produce, like Salesforce.
01:44:57.000So I do think the value of these AI companies.
01:45:00.000That might be there, but insofar as the use case for AI, if people are putting money into AI, expecting it to really become this all encompassing, paradigm changing technology, that's where the bubble may burst.
01:45:14.000That's where they think the value is going to be.
01:45:16.000That's where they might just sell out and dump their data.
01:45:19.000I think that when it comes to practical usage for AI, I think that it's probably smart enough now for the average user.
01:45:30.000Siri was a massive disappointment for people.
01:45:33.000It was always Siri's going to do this, Siri's going to do that.
01:45:35.000I think that now, uh, agentic AI in phones, I think the next generation of iPhone with the incorporation of ChatGPT inside of it, it's going to make you able to tell your phone to do things and it'll actually do it, right?
01:45:51.000Because you can do that now with Claude or what have you.
01:45:54.000Type in something, Claude, do this for me or whatever, and it'll do it.
01:45:59.000And there are programs where you can have, if you give the AI access to your computer, to your desktop, it can open up, uh, You know, open up browsers, go to websites, do things, book stuff for you.
01:46:10.000You give it a credit card, it can go ahead and pay for things for you.
01:46:14.000And that's going to be, I think, the reason why people haven't adopted it.
01:46:18.000They say that AI has jagged edges, right?
01:46:21.000If you look at the things that AI is capable of and how much people are actually using it, I think the missing thing is the killer app, quote unquote, right?
01:46:29.000Like, so everyone that has a phone, when you can have a phone and just say, do this.
01:46:37.000And it does it, and your grandmother can do that, right?
01:46:40.000Your boomer grandmother can say, You can say, 'Oh, granny, you can just say, blah, blah, blah, do this,' and it does it.
01:46:48.000I think that that's when people are going to realize, 'Oh, wow, AI actually is capable.
01:46:54.000It can do all these things, and it does make my life easier.' And then, as for the ability to have AI in like robots, you see a lot of people talking about robots, and a lot of companies are building robots and stuff.
01:47:05.000Once the AI is able to navigate the real world, because right now, You know, I everyone knows I got a Tesla and it does the full self driving thing.
01:47:13.000And if I'm like very rarely do I drive anymore, I just get in, I type in the address, and it does it all for me.
01:47:19.000So, if a car can do that, which is a limited number of inputs, right?
01:47:24.000You can go forward, backward, right, left.
01:47:34.000So, once you get an AI and a robot that can actually walk around the real world and doesn't fall over all the time.
01:47:42.000It doesn't ruin your clothes when it's doing your laundry or whatever.
01:47:46.000And I honestly think that we're probably a year or two away from that where they can function in society, maybe two years.
01:47:52.000Once that happens, and I've made this prediction on the show before, you're going to see robots that are going to be $30,000 and it's going to be a six year loan or five year loan, and it's going to be at 7, 8, 9% for the loan, just like a car.
01:48:09.000And people are going to say, Do I want to get a second car to go and take me to my job or what have you?
01:48:15.000Or do I want to get a robot that can do a bunch of things around the house and save me time?
01:48:20.000And I think that people are really going to start getting into that.
01:48:26.000But you'll see a lot of people getting into that.
01:48:28.000And then as time progresses a little bit, you'll see a lot of millennials getting, end up, when they get old, they'll get, you know, assisted care by robots because there's a lot of millennials that don't have kids.
01:48:39.000These things, I think, are well within the realistic scope of what AI capable robots are going to be able to do.
01:48:50.000I think there's some bottlenecks, you know, but I don't think that it's actually a bubble.
01:48:54.000I think that the ability to process information and intelligence.
01:49:00.000Is the most valuable thing human beings have ever discovered.
01:49:04.000I think that information, that the ability to, well, actually, intelligence is the most valuable thing on the planet.
01:49:11.000And if you can artificially produce intelligence that makes people's lives easier, then I think that there is basically an unlimited desire for that.
01:49:23.000I can tell that you might have a different perspective.
01:49:25.000Well, so like when you bring this stuff up, the problems that I foresee isn't the fact that we're going to have data centers and we're going to have to worry about water.
01:49:34.000Like, I don't foresee that as being the problem.
01:49:37.000The problem is going to be convincing people that real life, well, okay, there's two separate things.
01:49:44.000Convincing people that real life is better for you and your family long term than the virtual life that you can build, that's going to be really difficult because trying to convince people to resist the temptations of AI is going to be nearly impossible.
01:50:06.000And then, two, when you say, when you just tell your phone, you know, I had a pipe burst in my house and I need a plumber, hire me the best plumber for the most reasonable rate.
01:50:21.000And that to me reads credit score, like social credit score, that you're going to be auto selected out if you're a controversial person by these AI groups or this kind of AI, is that you are going to be.
01:50:40.000And it's in a way, it's this way now with how we use algorithms.
01:50:48.000You can have a phenomenal podcast and nobody hears it.
01:50:54.000You can have great thoughts and nobody will hear it because it's very, very difficult to break through that.
01:51:02.000Once it gets complete control of almost every industry, you're going to have businesses that thrive that are selected to thrive.
01:51:11.000I understand the concern, but I think that we're seeing the solution kind of there if you look, right?
01:51:22.000So people complain about Grok, or they'll complain about ChatGPT, or they'll complain about Claude.
01:51:30.000Specifically, you hear a lot of people that talk about ChatGPT and Claude, and they're like, oh, well, they're woke.
01:51:37.000They give you pre recorded answers, or they only give you answers that are politically correct.
01:51:42.000And I think the answer to what you're Or the solution to what your concern is, is multiple different competing AIs, right?
01:51:49.000So, you go to Grok and you don't really get the same kind of woke answers that you do.
01:51:56.000And also, there are different ways to set up an AI agent.
01:52:01.000So, any AI that you want to use to do things, that's an agent, right?
01:52:51.000The ability to have an AI that doesn't do things like you said, like, oh, you know, worry about social credit scores, that is being hashed out right now.
01:53:02.000And that's one of the things that, you know, whether or not you're a fan of Elon Musk, that's one of the things that Grok, he's trying to make sure that Grok doesn't do.
01:53:09.000And, you know, the people that work at Anthropic, right, they're all very, very left leaning, very, very woke.
01:53:20.000But if you go to, if you go with the Chinese, Open models, right?
01:53:26.000Like Kimmy K, it's not the same kind of thing.
01:53:29.000So it depends on which AI you go with, and you're going to have a choice.
01:53:33.000You're going to have, you're going to say, I want this in my AI, I want that in my AI.
01:53:36.000And that's only going to become more as people demand more.
01:53:41.000Because one of the things that markets have always done is offered people selection.
01:53:45.000And the more options you have, the less you're going to be pigeonholed into one specific thing.
01:53:53.000So I understand what you're saying because the possibility is there.
01:53:56.000I mean, that's kind of what goes on in.
01:53:58.000In China, like the AI models that China gets are not the same ones that they put out to the rest of the world.
01:54:04.000You know, that is what happens in China.
01:54:06.000But as long as there's a market where you have competing AIs, there's going to be people that are going to say, Hey, I don't want this from an AI.
01:54:14.000I want an AI that does this, does that.
01:54:16.000Well, I think, Nita, you did make a really interesting point, which was I don't know if people will be able to resist.
01:54:21.000And I think we kind of touched on earlier with some of our previous conversations that seemingly people cannot resist the urge to smooth out their life insofar as to remove.
01:54:32.000Remove potential obstacles or friction, right?
01:54:35.000And I think what you're hitting on is really important there because that would be maybe my one fear with AI.
01:54:40.000Because while anecdotally, I have seen Zoomers specifically almost like I'm a tech optimist, but the way I actually, my relationship with technology is almost very like Luddite.
01:54:51.000Like my phone's really one of the only technologies I have in my home.
01:54:54.000I like, I prefer my car to have no gizmos or gadgets whatsoever.
01:54:58.000But I don't know how many, I don't know if that's going to be because I know anecdotally, a lot of other people that are ditching their smartphones for dumb phones and that sort of thing.
01:55:59.000And it's a unique job that I don't understand how, and maybe I'm just ignorant, but I don't understand how a robot would be capable of doing, you know, a quarter of the jobs even that I had.
01:56:22.000Because there's just going to be the technology people that live in the cities, and then there's going to be the rural people.
01:56:29.000And hopefully, the rural people are going to be able to preserve the American spirit because a lot of this stuff with the AI technology and having it be capable of doing everything for you has, I mean, that idea has bred planned obsolescence into almost everything.
01:56:49.000And And replacing instead of repairing and maintaining something, which the American spirit was supposed to be, you know, you, you know, like you, I guess the refrigerator is the best, you know, example that I can give is that they used to make them to where it was where you could repair it.
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01:58:32.000So, okay, so they're just starting now.
01:58:35.000But, you know, I think that eventually you're going to have robots as assistants out on the job to go change tires or to go help people, you know, get people out of a ditch or whatever.
01:58:48.000And whether or not they completely replace people in every job, I don't think that that's probably going to happen.
01:58:54.000But I do think that there's going to be a lot of people that are going to have.
01:58:56.000They'll go and go to a job and they'll be a human being with the hands almost solved.
01:59:03.000There's so many jobs that require such unique dexterity that it feels like that's almost.
01:59:08.000There was just a hand that came out last week that I saw videos for, and they're like screwing in light bulbs.
01:59:14.000It's got 20, like the human hand has 27 degrees of mobility, and I think this had like 25.
01:59:21.000So it's something, all of those problems, all the things that we think robots aren't dexterous enough, robots can't do this, robots can't do that.
01:59:30.000I think that all those are solvable problems.
01:59:32.000Elon Musk likes to say the only no is physics, right?
01:59:35.000So if human beings can do it, you can figure out how to get a robot to do it.
01:59:40.000Are they sending teachers in reservations?
01:59:45.000Yeah, there's a school that has a pilot program where RealBotix has basically their alternative version of a sex doll that has been made into a teacher.
02:00:47.000Well, I thrust McTrunk Punch, thrust McTrunk Punch says, You did just have Claude disprove the Jacobin conjecture and advance the field of mathematics.
02:00:57.000Definitely seems like there's potential in AI.
02:00:59.000People say that AI isn't capable of creative thought because it's only it learns from the internet, so it can only do things that human beings have done.
02:01:09.000And so that's kind of where breakthroughs happen is like in human beings because they can think creatively.
02:01:15.000But I don't think that that's actually the case.
02:02:16.000Well, I mean, I think that's one of the more common rebuttals to Christianity is why would God, you know, it's like the watchmaker, like you make the watch and just let it go and let it cook.
02:02:29.000I think because of the fact that humans do possess this desire for spirituality, that possess this desire to understand where we came from, that's one of the fundamental questions of humanity is why are we here?
02:02:41.000I think that is evidence that there is a God that is seeking to know us and vice versa.
02:02:47.000Because if we possess that, it's likely that our maker also possesses that.
02:02:51.000Because ChatGPT couldn't really care less.
02:02:53.000It's not sitting around reading history books trying to figure out where it came from.
02:02:55.000It's just here to answer questions because it's a computer.
02:02:58.000But human beings, Seem to possess this desire for a mutual relationship with God, and then I think that I'm pretty firm on.
02:03:06.000And then now you come to the question of okay, what is that God?
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02:07:29.000Hollywood loves making movies like this now, and Hollywood's so terrified of AI that they can't make good movies about AI anymore because they're too worried about it taking their jobs.
02:07:38.000Yeah, like the last good guy robots were like R2, D2, and C3.