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00:00:26.000 This morning, a little bit before 7 a.m., there was another attempt on an ICE agent's life.

00:00:32.000 An illegal from Mexico tried to ram an ICE agent with his car, and so the ICE agent shot him.

00:00:38.000 We'll get into that and talk about the ramifications from that.

00:00:41.000 Tyler Robinson's preliminary hearing was this morning.

00:00:46.000 So there's a bunch of evidence that's being discussed.

00:00:49.000 There's a lot of people that are concerned about what is or isn't going to be allowed into the court.

00:00:53.000 So we're going to get into that.

00:00:55.000 There is a big push.

00:00:57.000 This is kind of funny, actually. 0.80

00:00:59.000 There's a big push from activists in California to allow black English to be pushed on kids. 0.92

00:01:05.000 I remember there was a time where that was called Ebonics.

00:01:06.000 I'm not sure if that's actually acceptable to say, but that was kind of the story from there.

00:01:12.000 So we're going to talk about that.

00:01:13.000 And there is still a war going on in the Middle East in Iran.

00:01:18.000 The U.S. is striking again.

00:01:20.000 I guess Iran had sent a few drones to three different merchant ships that were traveling through the Strait of Hormuz, and the U.S. has now decided that they've had enough, so the strikes are back on.

00:01:31.000 There's massive bombing in multiple places in Iran.

00:01:34.000 So we're going to get into that.

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00:02:32.000 Well, you guys, thank you so much for having me.

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00:02:53.000 Hello, Lisa.

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00:02:55.000 Oh, stop acting like you don't love being here.

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00:03:02.000 I'm Lisa.

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00:03:11.000 There you go.

00:03:12.000 It's good to have you.

00:03:14.000 Oh, thanks for having me, Carter.

00:03:15.000 You're welcome.

00:03:16.000 Now I was talking to Lisa, but also you.

00:03:18.000 It's also good to have you.

00:03:19.000 I also am a contrarian.

00:03:20.000 I'm a very disagreeable personality type.

00:03:22.000 So let's get into it.

00:03:23.000 I don't buy that one bit.

00:03:24.000 Carter's in the back there pushing the buttons.

00:03:26.000 Yes, yes.

00:03:27.000 I'm buried by machinery and screens, but I'm also here.

00:03:31.000 I'm excited to get into it, Phil.

00:03:32.000 Let's do it.

00:03:33.000 I'm sorry for neglecting to say hello yesterday.

00:03:35.000 I totally forgot.

00:03:35.000 I remember that.

00:03:36.000 I was like, Phil just mobbed me.

00:03:37.000 I did.

00:03:38.000 I'm sorry.

00:03:38.000 So, anyways, we're going to get right into it from the post millennial.

00:03:42.000 Ice agent shoots, kills illegal immigrant from Mexico who tried to ram him with his vehicle.

00:03:47.000 You know, I thought that everyone knew that it's a bad idea to try to use your car to take out an Ice agent, but clearly this guy wasn't paying attention to the news earlier this year.

00:03:59.000 The postmillennial says an Ice agent shot and killed a Mexican illegal in Houston Tuesday morning after federal officials say he attempted to flee a vehicle stop and tried to strike the agent with a vehicle.

00:04:09.000 Fox News Digital identified the man as Lorenzo Salgado Arroyo. 1.00

00:04:15.000 Nice effort there.

00:04:16.000 Nice effort with that in there.

00:04:16.000 What was that?

00:04:17.000 I don't know if I got it right or not.

00:04:19.000 That was authentic.

00:04:21.000 Thank you, John.

00:04:22.000 Solid, solid.

00:04:23.000 The incident happened shortly before 7 a.m. during a targeted enforcement operation, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

00:04:29.000 ICE said Arroyo allegedly rammed an ICE vehicle, ignored multiple verbal commands, and attempted to run over an agent.

00:04:36.000 The agency said the agent fired his weapon in self defense.

00:04:39.000 The Houston Fire Department said crews were sent to the scene at 6 51 a.m. and found Arroyo suffering from a gunshot wound.

00:04:45.000 He was taken to Ben Taub Hospital while CPR was underway and later died, according to ICE.

00:04:51.000 The FBI's Houston office is investigating if there was an assault on a federal law enforcement officer.

00:04:56.000 While the Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General is handling the investigation into the fatal shooting, FBI spokesperson Connor Hagan said, It is not a surprise that a law enforcement officer will shoot you if you try to hit him with your car.

00:05:11.000 I think we're all like, apparently, we're rediscovering this, though, as a nation.

00:05:15.000 I mean, apparently, that's just the thing.

00:05:16.000 And by the way, this is not the first time this has happened.

00:05:19.000 This has happened multiple times with illegal immigrants trying to ram ICE agents or officers with their vehicles when they're getting in trouble.

00:05:25.000 There was one just off the top of my head, there was Portland. 0.84

00:05:28.000 It was Trende Arago gang members.

00:05:30.000 They were part of a sex trafficking ring.

00:05:32.000 And the media and Democrats tried to run with it, being like, oh, look, now they're shooting innocent illegals.

00:05:38.000 And then you dig just one layer deeper and you see what's actually going on there and it just blows up in their face.

00:05:42.000 I don't know if they're going to try to do the same thing here, but every single time they try to grab it, they try to turn it into a sob story and it fails miserably.

00:05:50.000 I see it as a big W.

00:05:51.000 They keep taking care of themselves.

00:05:53.000 I kind of see it as a W.

00:05:55.000 It's faster than deportation.

00:05:56.000 Yeah.

00:05:56.000 Correct.

00:05:57.000 It's like, because.

00:05:59.000 In a hundred years ago, this stuff would happen like quietly, and then it would build, But now we get to see each individual instance of some debt. 1.00

00:06:07.000 I don't want to call them an idiot, but some desperate moron, whoever they are, trying to ram a police officer. 0.99

00:06:11.000 Anybody who tries to ram a police officer in their car has some problems. 1.00

00:06:13.000 Are you saying that a hundred years ago, they were that people were trying to ram police officers in their cars?

00:06:16.000 Yeah, they were getting one off people, but they wouldn't make news.

00:06:19.000 They're Ford Explorer, Model Ts.

00:06:21.000 It would be like this dude with his horseback scimitar, if I remember correctly.

00:06:25.000 Excursions, maybe.

00:06:27.000 But it wouldn't get reported, so stuff would build like.

00:06:29.000 Bleeding Kansas went on for 14 years.

00:06:31.000 Now we get to pick it apart day by day and, like, kind of write the course of the ship as we go.

00:06:36.000 So that does give me a lot of hope.

00:06:37.000 It is worth noting that I haven't, like, I haven't, you know, heard a lot of leftists coming out and making a big stink about this one.

00:06:44.000 Do you think that they've actually decided, you know what, maybe we shouldn't take the mantle of defending the illegal, take it up because this person was likely involved in some kind of illegal activity beyond his being here illegally?

00:07:00.000 They usually not care.

00:07:01.000 They try.

00:07:02.000 They try.

00:07:03.000 So they'll do, they'll attempt to do that with anybody, and then it'll just, it depends on how much steam it gets in the mainstream media, like whether or not they actually want to deal with that. 0.99

00:07:10.000 I mean, the Maryland man was, I imagine they're still running to his defense, you know, the, whatever the fuck he's just so cursed. 0.95

00:07:18.000 Yeah, the Maryland man who was actually, his Maryland dad. 0.98

00:07:22.000 Maryland father, Maryland man, whatever.

00:07:24.000 But they, I mean, that one, nobody's learned their lesson.

00:07:26.000 That's kind of an outfit.

00:07:27.000 If we go out on the street and we go talk to some people, just your average everyday people about ice tonight, we will run into people that bring up Maryland man.

00:07:35.000 For sure.

00:07:36.000 You bring up going out on the street.

00:07:37.000 Do you have a sense as to whether people generally look at ICE as a good thing or a bad thing nowadays?

00:07:44.000 I mean, you're out there all the time talking to people.

00:07:46.000 So, does it depend on where you go?

00:07:49.000 Yeah, I go to a lot of blue cities, right?

00:07:51.000 So, I'm talking to a lot of people.

00:07:52.000 But if I go to Huntington Beach or not even Huntington Beach, if I just go somewhere where it's not Philadelphia or D.C., maybe, you'll run into a lot of people that actually do support it.

00:08:03.000 But this is what the left does when it comes to if you show your support.

00:08:07.000 Publicly, we will do everything we can to make your life a living hell.

00:08:11.000 And that still exists today, by the way.

00:08:12.000 And they still run a lot of these institutions.

00:08:14.000 They still control the media.

00:08:15.000 They still control college campuses.

00:08:17.000 They still control, you know, Hollywood and all that stuff.

00:08:20.000 So, it is still like, whoa, maybe I don't want to celebrate it, but I'm good with it.

00:08:25.000 In a general sense, though, you will get a lot of people that do, the propaganda does work.

00:08:28.000 When they grab that Maryland father story, that stuff works on people because not everyone is talking politics all day long.

00:08:35.000 They're not digging into every single story, they're just hearing a very surface level thing.

00:08:39.000 And usually the people that are spurging about ice are who?

00:08:43.000 So, they're getting that narrative majority of the time.

00:08:43.000 You know, leftists.

00:08:46.000 I describe it as the normal people that are worried about their kids and their family and spend maybe, An hour to two hours per week listening to news, and they don't go much further than listening to the headlines, and that's kind of how they form their opinions.

00:08:59.000 For sure.

00:09:00.000 Do you want to say something?

00:09:01.000 Oh, the dad, what's that guy's name?

00:09:02.000 The guy that kicked the cop, the ice vehicle, and then they shot him.

00:09:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:05.000 Wrestled on the ground with a gun.

00:09:07.000 Was that the very disgusting Freddy? 0.96

00:09:09.000 Alex Freddy.

00:09:09.000 In his face, people will tell me the story of, look, they threw a guy on the ground.

00:09:12.000 He was a teacher, Ian.

00:09:13.000 They shot him on the ground, and I'm like, well, didn't he kick the cop car?

00:09:17.000 And he's like, well, yeah.

00:09:18.000 Didn't he wrestle for a gun while he was on the ground wrestling with cops?

00:09:22.000 Okay, okay.

00:09:23.000 Like, then the reasoning comes out of the situation.

00:09:26.000 You get past that.

00:09:27.000 You just got to get past the headline.

00:09:28.000 You got to.

00:09:30.000 That's why people aren't insane about this illegal guy tried to kill a cop and they killed him.

00:09:30.000 When people.

00:09:34.000 Like, they're not insane about it because they dig six centimeters deep and you see it wasn't like an innocent guy.

00:09:40.000 Give it a day or two.

00:09:41.000 They might pick it up and decide to go be crazy with it.

00:09:44.000 They might.

00:09:45.000 I think they tend to stay away from these ones.

00:09:46.000 The situation with Alex Pretty was.

00:09:49.000 It's interesting because he had.

00:09:51.000 He basically was just going out there professionally.

00:09:53.000 He was with.

00:09:54.000 What is that? 0.78

00:09:55.000 They're that like insurgency group that was going out there assaulting federal officers, by the way, and behaving like absolute lunatics in the street. 0.74

00:09:55.000 Ice Watch. 0.74

00:10:03.000 So, if you guys have ever taken like a CCW class or a conciliary class, pretty much the entire thing, pretty much like the entire course, is just like, don't do what Alex Pretty did, right?

00:10:14.000 Yes.

00:10:14.000 The first thing I think I was like, one of the questions was like, where should you not bring a gun?

00:10:18.000 It's like, to a protest.

00:10:20.000 Or just like when you're wrestling with federal agents, you know, like, you don't need to be doing that with your gun on you.

00:10:26.000 You know, they don't even recommend that you go to a Bar with your firearm.

00:10:26.000 Yeah.

00:10:30.000 And I'm pretty sure in Texas it's illegal.

00:10:32.000 In some places, yeah.

00:10:32.000 Yeah, it's illegal.

00:10:33.000 So, you know, a lot of it is just avoiding a situation that can get you in trouble. 0.99

00:10:39.000 Don't go to an absolute idiot if you're wrestling with officers and federal agents with a loaded firearm on your person. 1.00

00:10:46.000 Don't go stupid places with stupid people and do stupid things. 1.00

00:10:50.000 That's real simple. 1.00

00:10:51.000 And any place that you're going to go and possibly have a confrontation with a law enforcement officer, you definitely don't bring a gun.

00:11:01.000 Yeah.

00:11:01.000 You know, the idea that you would go to a protest and be an activist saying, Oh, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to try to inhibit police officers from doing their job, law enforcement officers from doing their job, and doing it armed, that is just asking for trouble.

00:11:18.000 It is asking for a problem.

00:11:20.000 In that situation, too, he's de arresting people, quote unquote.

00:11:23.000 First of all, you obviously have no authority to be doing that.

00:11:23.000 That's what they call it.

00:11:25.000 What on earth are you thinking?

00:11:27.000 Could you imagine pulling over?

00:11:28.000 Let's say there's like a cop that pulled somebody over on the side of the street.

00:11:30.000 Would you get out of your car and go like interfere?

00:11:33.000 With this traffic stop?

00:11:34.000 No, that would be insane.

00:11:36.000 Totally insane.

00:11:37.000 And so, with that situation, he did that.

00:11:39.000 He shoved the officer.

00:11:41.000 It's like, you know, at a certain point, if you do all of these things in a row, you're going to end up finding out.

00:11:47.000 Whether I agree with the outcome or not, it's like you're going to end up being in a bad situation.

00:11:47.000 Yeah.

00:11:51.000 And that's what you're supposed to avoid when you have a firearm on your person.

00:11:54.000 I think these high profile cases, some of those high profile cases, like what you were just talking about with Pretty, and then this guy who attacked the cop, the ICE, I mean, they're putting like a A bitter taste in the mouths of the leftist activists that are on the side of ICE or on the side of the protests against ICE because it's just, it's not as, it's like taking away the veil of like ICE bad, everyone else good.

00:12:17.000 It's showing that there's nuance here and that evil people can still do evil to the federal police force.

00:12:24.000 And then maybe the federal police force isn't the bad guy in that situation, even though you disagree with their initial premise.

00:12:30.000 Still.

00:12:32.000 For the majority of these targeted fugitive operations where they have 10 agents and they're going after an individual, usually that guy is a bad dude as well. 1.00

00:12:40.000 And they're probably stupid as well. 0.99

00:12:41.000 That's why they end up in situations where they ram officers with their guns. 1.00

00:12:46.000 They're in the country illegally and they're doing that when they're getting caught. 0.99

00:12:49.000 Yeah, I mean, to Lisa's point earlier, like, it is, like, I mean, not that I'm hoping for, you know, illegals to be killed, but, like, if you're a violent criminal, if you're the kind of person that's, like, I'm going to use my car to try to, you know, try to hit a police officer, no one's going to cry if the police officer defends himself. 0.98

00:13:08.000 Like, I forget what the woman's name was. 0.53

00:13:11.000 It was very, it was right before the Pretty. 0.71

00:13:13.000 Renee Good.

00:13:14.000 Renee Good was, yeah. 0.93

00:13:16.000 She was obviously an activist and she made a really, really, really bad decision.

00:13:23.000 And it ended up with her losing her life because of it.

00:13:26.000 Like, if it's so, I mean, to, in my opinion, that was a sad situation.

00:13:32.000 Like, if this guy's, you know, actually trying to ram a cop and he's here illegally, it's like, well, maybe I'm not that sad about it.

00:13:38.000 Maybe he should have just, you know, allowed himself to be taken into custody.

00:13:42.000 He wasn't trying to be a protester.

00:13:44.000 They were trying to apprehend him.

00:13:45.000 This is a different situation entirely. 1.00

00:13:47.000 You're not even making the news if you do something as stupid as that in a foreign country. 1.00

00:13:52.000 Well, that guy's an idiot. 1.00

00:13:52.000 And you're like, oh, yeah. 1.00

00:13:53.000 Like, that's it.

00:13:53.000 Yep.

00:13:55.000 There's no debate around that topic.

00:13:56.000 Not at all.

00:13:57.000 You go to Mexico, you're in Mexico illegally from some other country, you do something like that, screw around with police officers, whatever, and they're trying to remove you from the country.

00:14:05.000 Like, dude, you're not.

00:14:06.000 And never mind the fact that most countries, if you're found to be in their country illegally, you go to prison in that country for being there illegally.

00:14:13.000 Like, the U.S. is incredibly generous because we don't actually imprison you for being here illegally.

00:14:18.000 It's the most generous country on the face of the earth when it comes to that process.

00:14:22.000 Not even close.

00:14:23.000 We deport you.

00:14:23.000 Unfortunately.

00:14:24.000 Unfortunately.

00:14:25.000 To our detriment.

00:14:26.000 Yeah.

00:14:27.000 Like, here it's like.

00:14:29.000 They were gonna, you know, maybe you'll be able to stay until a hearing or what have you.

00:14:34.000 It should be, you should just be brought to the border and pushed over and be like, get out of here, you know. 0.99

00:14:40.000 And then if you're not Canadian or Mexican and we drop you off in Canada or Mexico, then you're Canada or Mexico's problem. 1.00

00:14:46.000 Where did you come in? 0.99

00:14:47.000 All right, if you came in from the southern border, get out of here. 1.00

00:14:50.000 You're now you're Mexico's problem. 1.00

00:14:51.000 I don't care if you're from Guatemala. 1.00

00:14:52.000 Maybe, maybe Mexico put you in jail. 0.99

00:14:54.000 Maybe Mexico sent you to Guatemala.

00:14:55.000 Whatever, you're not in the U.S. anymore. 1.00

00:14:57.000 It's so beyond, if you actually think about it, so beyond over the top what we do for people that broke into our country. 0.99

00:15:04.000 You get what medical treatment, you get education, you get oh, yeah, and we're also paying people $2,500 to even leave in the first place, yeah, with in a country that they have no permission to be in. 0.99

00:15:17.000 It's actually so over the top how generous we are with these people, yeah.

00:15:21.000 So it's wild how, how like kid gloves the U.S. can be sometimes, you know, philosophically or with people, but then how brutally sadistic it can be behind closed doors with like drone bombs and stuff.

00:15:34.000 So it's like with a smile on our face, we'll.

00:15:38.000 You know, do some things that I'm not going to talk about on YouTube to your home country.

00:15:41.000 I'm happy that they're doing them.

00:15:43.000 I changed my whole position.

00:15:45.000 I would push back on the idea that the use of drones is sadistic.

00:15:51.000 Well, it's more like targeted assassinations, and it's not all sadistic.

00:15:55.000 It's not that even remotely, most of it, I'm not saying it is sadistic.

00:15:58.000 Most of it's for money, for political power.

00:16:01.000 It's not like doing it for fun.

00:16:02.000 But the willingness to cause pain, to get your point across.

00:16:05.000 Look at how ethical we are, even doing those things compared to how it was.

00:16:10.000 I don't know, say 200 years ago, 300, think about 300 years, think about all of humanity.

00:16:15.000 I mean, we are way less problematic as far as, like, you know, people on the left or pacifists would say.

00:16:23.000 You know, I'm not.

00:16:24.000 An example of this is we had the atomic bomb when nobody else did, and we could have ruled the world.

00:16:28.000 We have the atomic bomb, and yet we still developed the Ginsu Hellfire, right?

00:16:34.000 The Hellfire missile that will pop out.

00:16:36.000 We're not going around with swords and horses and all that kind of stuff.

00:16:38.000 No, listen, stop.

00:16:39.000 We actually are going around with swords.

00:16:41.000 We have a Hellfire missile that will shoot swords out of the side so that way it doesn't have collateral damage.

00:16:46.000 Yeah, we do.

00:16:47.000 We've used it a bunch of times.

00:16:48.000 Oh, good.

00:16:49.000 Like, They literally have a Hellfire missile that can be shot at a target that has swords that shoot out, so that way it's not an explosive, so we don't have collateral damage, so we don't kill innocent people.

00:16:49.000 Let's keep using it.

00:17:02.000 We get just the guy that we're targeting.

00:17:05.000 And to James' point, we have the nuclear bomb.

00:17:08.000 We could level entire cities, but we've spent. 1.00

00:17:11.000 We should do that to all the same countries.

00:17:13.000 Well, we've spent effort and money trying to be able to limit how many innocent people die.

00:17:20.000 And then they can rebuild, just like, you know. 0.73

00:17:23.000 Japan's the golden days?

00:17:24.000 They could rebuild.

00:17:27.000 Japan's a special country.

00:17:28.000 They could have Bucky's and all that other stuff.

00:17:30.000 Is it Bucky's?

00:17:30.000 What is it?

00:17:31.000 No, we don't have to do anything.

00:17:32.000 Waffle House.

00:17:33.000 Waffle House.

00:17:34.000 I mean, we could actually spread freedom across the world.

00:17:36.000 Ian, to your point, though, I think what's really interesting about that point is if we're not doing it, somebody else is going to.

00:17:44.000 That's just how human nature works.

00:17:46.000 So who would we prefer to do it other than us?

00:17:48.000 We'll do it.

00:17:49.000 What do you mean, it?

00:17:50.000 What you were talking about when it comes to using.

00:17:52.000 We call it world police if you want to.

00:17:54.000 And I'm not really even making an argument here for like, oh, Yes, it's good that we're doing everything that we do, but if we're not doing it, somebody else is going to take our position of being that bully, I guess you could say.

00:18:04.000 Either you automate it.

00:18:05.000 Yeah, either you automate it or we have to keep doing it.

00:18:08.000 Either you automate it to like robotic AI and just trust that it's a flawless process that's going to oversee humans and don't let us go to war again, but that's like why we kneecap ourselves and we're ahead.

00:18:18.000 Wouldn't someone still be in control of the AI system that you're talking about?

00:18:23.000 So even if it's an AI system or what have you, it would be something that the U.S. ostensibly, the U.S. would still control.

00:18:31.000 By automating it, you're just handing it over to robots as opposed to having human beings do it.

00:18:36.000 And at that point, you've still got who's developing the weapons, who's actually writing the code, who's the one that's in control of the AI.

00:18:36.000 And it's perfect.

00:18:43.000 So it's not really taking the US out.

00:18:46.000 It's just changing who's taking the kinetic actions, making it from people to automated systems.

00:18:53.000 You could, like the Americans would probably build it, you're right.

00:18:56.000 But it's like if you push a boulder down a hill, you're no longer controlling that boulder.

00:19:01.000 So, we could set a process in motion with like an artificial governance that oversees autonomous weaponry and stuff to protect the human race.

00:19:09.000 But once that boulder is there.

00:19:10.000 This is the Matrix, man.

00:19:11.000 I kind of like the humans in the loop part.

00:19:14.000 I kind of like the fact that it's like.

00:19:15.000 As long as they're Americans. 0.97

00:19:17.000 I mean, that's correct, actually. 0.69

00:19:17.000 Yes, yeah. 0.69

00:19:19.000 Literally, I'm not even joking, but that's correct.

00:19:20.000 Yes, that's the problem.

00:19:22.000 We'll fight to the death to make sure that we maintain that power, you know? 0.57

00:19:26.000 But the options that we have, like whether it be Russia or China, The best option we have is that the United States is the one actually making the calls.

00:19:36.000 Of those, yeah.

00:19:37.000 Of the human led organizations, I think the American led economy right now is the least worst one I can find because of free speech.

00:19:44.000 Like, shows like this. 0.97

00:19:45.000 If the Chinese were running the world police, we wouldn't be able to have this show. 1.00

00:19:48.000 Oh, geez, even the UK, man. 1.00

00:19:49.000 Yeah, I mean, exactly.

00:19:50.000 The UK throws more people in jail than Russia for Facebook posts, for posts on the internet.

00:19:55.000 No kidding. 0.53

00:19:56.000 By a big margin.

00:19:57.000 Yeah.

00:19:58.000 That's really freakish.

00:19:59.000 That's true.

00:20:00.000 It is 100% true.

00:20:01.000 You pulled that up.

00:20:03.000 12,000 people were put in jail.

00:20:05.000 If I understand correctly, this year.

00:20:06.000 Lash year, I think it was.

00:20:07.000 Over Facebook and Twitter posts, social media posts.

00:20:07.000 Yeah.

00:20:10.000 And they have these other things over there where it's called Prevent, right?

00:20:14.000 And if, say, here's an example Tommy Robinson had a really good friend who was just a security guard, just a security guard.

00:20:22.000 And so he had, the security guard had a son, and his son came over, and like Tommy was always nice to them.

00:20:28.000 So he gave them both like Stone Island hats or something that he happened to have in his car.

00:20:32.000 And the kid went to school the next day, and he's like, I got a Stone Island hat from like Tommy Robinson or whatever.

00:20:37.000 They called Prevent and said, We're going to take your child away.

00:20:41.000 Because you interact with him or you know him or whatever.

00:20:44.000 And he was like put on this like anti radical, like it's anti radicalization program.

00:20:50.000 They do that because, and it's for far right extremists.

00:20:54.000 Like that's what they do.

00:20:55.000 And they will take your children away.

00:20:57.000 They will put you in these programs, anything that they can do to re educate you.

00:21:01.000 And they do it often.

00:21:03.000 So there were annual arrests in England and Wales, around 12,000 arrests every year under laws like Section 127 of the Communication Act.

00:21:11.000 2003, or Section 1 of the Malicious Communication Act of 1988.

00:21:16.000 That's a really good graph.

00:21:17.000 Then it goes on to kind of pad the numbers and say convictions versus arrests.

00:21:20.000 While there are more than 12,000 people annually arrested, the number of individuals formally convicted and sentenced is significantly lower because that's better, right? 0.66

00:21:28.000 We'll use the government, we'll arrest you, scare the crap out of you, right?

00:21:34.000 Possibly you'll have to defend yourself in court, spend all the time away from home, spend the time away from work, possibly spend the money to defend yourself.

00:21:42.000 And then you don't go to jail.

00:21:43.000 But then you do.

00:21:44.000 So that's better.

00:21:44.000 You do.

00:21:45.000 Actually, there are other cases up where, for like the R word, people get less time than people who have had put up offensive. 0.95

00:21:52.000 Retard? 0.85

00:21:53.000 No, no, no, no. 0.99

00:21:54.000 Like the, like people who commit, like, great.

00:21:58.000 I think, great.

00:21:59.000 Oh, oh, sexual assault.

00:22:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:01.000 Form of it.

00:22:01.000 Okay.

00:22:02.000 They get, they, yeah, form of it.

00:22:03.000 They get less time.

00:22:04.000 There's like been cases where they get way less time than people for Facebook posts.

00:22:09.000 Yeah, because they're, because of their, their, a lot of it's because of the whole, the, Maybe it was around like 2015, the gun debate was a big thing.

00:22:19.000 Everyone would always be talking about it.

00:22:20.000 I feel like we haven't really been talking about that for a long time.

00:22:22.000 And it was always brought up, like, oh, well, they don't need guns over there.

00:22:26.000 They don't need any of this stuff over there.

00:22:27.000 They're totally fine.

00:22:28.000 They have no problems at all.

00:22:29.000 It's like, well, you know, now we're looking at these stats, and it's 12,000 arrests every single year.

00:22:35.000 Yeah.

00:22:35.000 And that's unbelievable.

00:22:36.000 There is a graph where it shows it in comparison to other countries, and it's staggering when you see.

00:22:41.000 I don't even think third world countries are doing that.

00:22:43.000 No, no. 1.00

00:22:44.000 Well, a lot of them, part of the reason is because they don't have the infrastructure to do it, they don't have the ability to monitor their.

00:22:49.000 The population is the same way that the UK does.

00:22:51.000 Because, I mean, there are more, there are tons of cameras everywhere in the UK, and they monitor people's social media posts and stuff.

00:23:00.000 But you mentioned firearms and stuff like that.

00:23:02.000 One of the things that people in Europe like to say is they're like, oh, you know, you guys have so many murders in the US.

00:23:08.000 And if you look at how many people die from heat stroke every year in Europe, there are more people that die from not having AC than there are people murdered with firearms.

00:23:18.000 Right.

00:23:18.000 I've seen those figures.

00:23:19.000 And it's like, okay, so you guys are bragging, but everybody's dying from heatstroke and you can't say words on Facebook.

00:23:24.000 Yeah.

00:23:24.000 So, I mean, yeah.

00:23:26.000 And if you take out a handful of major cities, the U.S. firearm murder rate goes down to dramatically similar to what European countries are.

00:23:35.000 Lower, way lower, like extremely lower.

00:23:37.000 In our suburbs, it's virtually non existent, the homicide rates.

00:23:42.000 In Britain, all this censorship and arrests is this because the emperor is trying to just maintain control of all those people?

00:23:48.000 The emperor.

00:23:50.000 We don't need less.

00:23:52.000 Is there an American empire where, like, I think it's semantic.

00:23:55.000 Like, there's no emperor.

00:23:56.000 Charles technically is the king.

00:23:58.000 He's got a lot of kingdoms.

00:23:59.000 He's got the king of Australia, the king of Canada, the king of America.

00:24:01.000 These are laws passed by their parliament, Ian.

00:24:04.000 Usually, back in the day, when a guy had multiple kingdoms, he'd establish an empire to own all the kingdoms.

00:24:09.000 So, if he died, all those kingdoms would stay owned by the empire.

00:24:13.000 Yeah, true, but he's neutered.

00:24:14.000 I mean, parliament has all, he's just a figurehead.

00:24:17.000 I mean, he doesn't have any say over anything.

00:24:19.000 If they had a real king, they'd probably have air conditioning.

00:24:21.000 He could appoint a governor general that can disband parliament.

00:24:24.000 They should do that.

00:24:24.000 If the royal troops actually had any power, how did Meghan Markle cut off Harry's, you know, that's what I'm saying.

00:24:32.000 Was it Harry or is it the other one?

00:24:34.000 Harry, the reason that that really happened and that he let it happen is because he knows that Charles isn't his real father anyway.

00:24:39.000 It's that hot polo player guy, you know?

00:24:41.000 And, like, so what's he really care?

00:24:44.000 Oh, Harry.

00:24:44.000 You ever see him next to that polo player dad?

00:24:48.000 Oh, that makes sense.

00:24:48.000 Spitting image.

00:24:49.000 Really?

00:24:50.000 It's uncanny resemblance.

00:24:52.000 It's disturbing.

00:24:52.000 I don't want to joke about it, I mean, whatever you think about Empire, that it's like our neighboring England is like our neighbor, good guy, speaks English with us.

00:24:59.000 And they're the, like, right there across the ocean, you know?

00:25:03.000 Across the pond.

00:25:03.000 Right across the pond.

00:25:05.000 But they, like, these extreme censorship technologies being implemented in their country, right there with the people that are, like, about as American as you can get without being American.

00:25:14.000 It's like.

00:25:15.000 Canadians and then Englishmen, like other than that, you know, we speak English.

00:25:20.000 Australians.

00:25:21.000 Yeah, the patriots in those countries are as patriotic as it can get, to be honest.

00:25:25.000 Like in England, but there aren't a ton of them.

00:25:27.000 A lot of them, there's not.

00:25:28.000 What, 30%?

00:25:30.000 I mean, they are at, yeah, thankfully. 0.99

00:25:33.000 What is it?

00:25:34.000 Is it not Restore Britain?

00:25:35.000 It is Restore Britain.

00:25:36.000 There's Reform and Restore.

00:25:37.000 Restore is the good one.

00:25:39.000 The good one, yeah.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:25:41.000 But those people are as patriotic as it can get.

00:25:44.000 And really, what Americans should be doing is Wishing the and hoping and praying for the very best for those people.

00:25:50.000 Unfortunately, I think a lot of them would even agree it's looking like it's a little bit too late.

00:25:56.000 This move towards globalization, I think it's been going on since the night.

00:25:58.000 I just did Brian Shapiro's Pushing the Limits today.

00:26:00.000 I hosted it for Brian Shapiro.

00:26:01.000 Check it out.

00:26:02.000 We were talking about the New World Order, basically, that George Bush Sr. was talking about. 0.98

00:26:06.000 And that they're just bringing foreign nationals into all these countries to create a global village and just disrupt American power, disrupt the dollar, disrupt. 0.99

00:26:16.000 Get rid of our constitutional free speech law. 1.00

00:26:19.000 And the ball's in motion.

00:26:20.000 It's been rolling.

00:26:21.000 And now the people are trying to step up and stop it when they realize what's happening like 17 years too late.

00:26:27.000 And there's, but also maybe they're doing the right thing by stopping it.

00:26:30.000 And like maybe nationalism is kind of good.

00:26:33.000 So it is good.

00:26:35.000 It is.

00:26:35.000 Because you're going to have corporatocracy or nationalism or some interbreed of the two.

00:26:39.000 And I like the nice thing about the nation is we have a say in what it does through our Democrat, at least in our nation, we do.

00:26:45.000 But with corporations, it's just the owners.

00:26:47.000 That decides we really don't have a say.

00:26:49.000 It's all manufactured and it's, um, we don't have a say.

00:26:52.000 Like, your vote doesn't really mean anything.

00:26:53.000 That's why there should be fewer people voting.

00:26:55.000 So, yeah, 100%.

00:26:56.000 Yeah.

00:26:56.000 Repeal the 17th, the 14th, a bunch of other ones.

00:26:59.000 I think you might be right that voting's not as potent as it seems, but we have the ability to like whip up a video show and talk to 100 million people and change their minds and tell them to push a button and they'll go do it.

00:27:08.000 Kind of.

00:27:08.000 I mean, like, you can change like sentiment and, and you can affect that, I guess.

00:27:13.000 But like, you don't have the big money that Pfizer has.

00:27:16.000 You don't have the big dollars that, The gun lobby has, or that any other lobby has.

00:27:22.000 I mean, the reason that our doctors treat us the way they do is because, like, even what doctors think is influenced by like big pharma, they write the textbooks, right?

00:27:32.000 They influence the laws.

00:27:33.000 I mean, nothing like we don't even have food that's healthy.

00:27:37.000 They, the farmers and their, you know, there's a lot of choice in that.

00:27:42.000 Like, if you, if you, there, there absolutely is.

00:27:44.000 I work there.

00:27:45.000 Look, well, I mean, you're talking, no, I'm talking about there's a lot of choice when it comes to like the food that you eat.

00:27:49.000 Like, you don't have to go to the.

00:27:50.000 That's not even true.

00:27:51.000 And I'll tell you why, Sandra.

00:27:52.000 If I go home right now and go get potting soil from the store, decide I'm going to grow my own all organic food, is there chemicals in that soil that will seep up through my own food?

00:28:03.000 Yeah.

00:28:04.000 You can't even grow your own food without chemicals.

00:28:06.000 You live in a city.

00:28:07.000 Even if I didn't.

00:28:08.000 If you don't live in a city, you can absolutely.

00:28:10.000 They tell you not to eat snow anymore.

00:28:13.000 Even if you're in Appalachia, where there's nothing going on because of the chemicals and things like that that are in the atmosphere and that seep in and that will.

00:28:21.000 They don't want you.

00:28:22.000 You used to be able to eat snow.

00:28:23.000 We used to make snow, whatever.

00:28:25.000 You can't do that anymore.

00:28:25.000 It was always dirt.

00:28:27.000 In fact, the air is actually cleaner now than it was 30 years ago, 30 or 40 years ago.

00:28:33.000 With all the airplanes flying back and forth and less emissions out?

00:28:33.000 Really?

00:28:36.000 Absolutely cleaner now.

00:28:38.000 Absolutely cleaner now.

00:28:39.000 Than it was 100 years ago?

00:28:40.000 Not 100, 30 or 40 years ago.

00:28:42.000 Like in the 80s, 70s.

00:28:43.000 I'm just saying.

00:28:44.000 I'm just saying too.

00:28:45.000 We don't have control of everything.

00:28:46.000 It's all an illusion.

00:28:47.000 I think that's totally not true.

00:28:48.000 I mean, like the last 10 years with even the introduction of MAGA, that's been a complete.

00:28:54.000 You're changing public sentiment.

00:28:56.000 That's been transforming the direction of the country.

00:28:59.000 Yeah, because it's a groundswell of public sentiment.

00:29:02.000 But you're like individually, we don't.

00:29:02.000 Fine.

00:29:05.000 And there's people with money that are backing a lot of that, right?

00:29:08.000 And so individually, you know, to sit here around the table and say we have a say, we don't really have a say.

00:29:14.000 I mean, yes, we get to sit here and talk or whatever, but we, you as an individual on a non collective basis, do not have a say. 0.99

00:29:21.000 I'll tell you what, you have a lot more say when you're not mass importing foreigners from the third world. 0.84

00:29:25.000 I mean, way more say.

00:29:27.000 Why are we doing that?

00:29:28.000 Most of the country doesn't even want that, and yet we're still doing it.

00:29:30.000 They're still pouring in.

00:29:32.000 Well, no, no, they're not pouring in right now.

00:29:34.000 I mean, they're still trying.

00:29:35.000 Well, they're trying, but they're overstaying.

00:29:37.000 They're literally actually not even really trying.

00:29:39.000 There's basically nobody at the southern border right now.

00:29:41.000 Yeah, and we had negative migration last year.

00:29:44.000 How many years did we have it when people were?

00:29:46.000 Obviously, saying they didn't want it, and even the Democratic Party knew that they didn't want it.

00:29:50.000 Their face didn't want it.

00:29:52.000 We can't start finally fixing it and then complaining that nothing can get done.

00:29:56.000 We just started.

00:29:57.000 I'm not saying nothing can get done. 0.80

00:29:58.000 We got to do a little bit more of a white bill than black billing, right? 0.97

00:30:01.000 I'm not saying nothing can get done. 0.96

00:30:02.000 I'm saying you, as an individual, to sit here and act like you have some say in your democratic process is BS.

00:30:09.000 Too many people actually probably do.

00:30:11.000 Like the tweaker down the street should not be able to vote to raise my taxes. 0.64

00:30:15.000 52% of Philadelphians are illiterate, functionally illiterate.

00:30:21.000 By all metrics, it's reported, and those people get to vote. 1.00

00:30:25.000 You want to hear why I disagree with this data just a little bit because a lot of who's included in that, and I hate to harp on this again, is foreigners. 0.97

00:30:34.000 So you end up with, like, oh, wow, why is California so behind?

00:30:37.000 Well, it's not because all the teachers are bad.

00:30:40.000 It's not because all the schools are bad, although you see a lot of the bad stuff.

00:30:43.000 I get it.

00:30:44.000 I understand.

00:30:44.000 A lot of them are bad.

00:30:45.000 But a lot of it is because you have a lot of immigrants that have come in over the last 40 years, and their parents aren't really strong on education. 1.00

00:30:53.000 And you have kids that are in the classroom that don't really speak English. 0.99

00:30:57.000 So you're going to end up with that data regardless.

00:30:58.000 And the No Child Left Behind stuff was terrible.

00:31:01.000 All they do is they push kids through that haven't actually achieved anything.

00:31:04.000 So that data is a little bit misleading, though, Lisa.

00:31:06.000 Have you walked around Philly?

00:31:07.000 You've talked to these people?

00:31:08.000 No, no, they can't read.

00:31:09.000 You know they can't read.

00:31:10.000 I have walked around Philly.

00:31:12.000 And Philly might be a little bit more of a unique issue with Philly, okay?

00:31:15.000 I get that.

00:31:15.000 But people say that people drop those facts and figures for California all the time.

00:31:20.000 And a lot of that is weighed down by how many people are in the state that barely even speak English.

00:31:25.000 We don't have that many like you do.

00:31:27.000 And I'm telling you, these people are voting.

00:31:29.000 Philly might be a little bit different.

00:31:31.000 I get it.

00:31:31.000 But to your point, I've definitely made it clear that I think there are way too many people voting, people that don't have any idea what they're actually voting for.

00:31:42.000 They listen to a politician say, I'm going to give you these things.

00:31:45.000 I'm going to give you these programs.

00:31:46.000 There's going to be all this stuff that we're going to do for you.

00:31:48.000 And people are voting in the hopes that they basically can get handouts from the government, whether they be handouts in some kind like child care or.

00:31:55.000 Exactly what Soquel predicted.

00:31:57.000 Yeah, it is.

00:31:57.000 It is.

00:31:58.000 And.

00:31:59.000 That is something that is in the long term has hurt the country and it's only going to continue to hurt the country.

00:32:04.000 So, there should be, in my opinion, there should be significantly fewer people voting.

00:32:08.000 I don't think that, like, you know, there's the meme of, though, you know, repeal the 19th.

00:32:11.000 That doesn't go nearly far enough. 0.99

00:32:13.000 We need way fewer than just women not voting. 1.00

00:32:15.000 Like, that's. 1.00

00:32:16.000 Women would be a good start, though.

00:32:18.000 Well, I mean, look, I don't care if it's all women and 50% of men or whatever, but the people that are voting, you should have some kind of basic, you should at least have a basic understanding of how our system works. 0.52

00:32:32.000 Most people aren't taught.

00:32:34.000 We don't even have a civics class in schools where people are taught.

00:32:38.000 The difference between the House and the Senate.

00:32:40.000 There's so many people that are making the argument on the internet.

00:32:42.000 He should go around and ask people if they know who their congressman is.

00:32:42.000 What?

00:32:45.000 I bet you.

00:32:45.000 No, they don't.

00:32:46.000 None of them do.

00:32:48.000 Ask them what the Senate does.

00:32:50.000 You know, what's the purpose of the Senate?

00:32:53.000 People talk about having the.

00:32:56.000 I see people on the internet say this kind of stuff.

00:32:57.000 It's so wrong that Montana, it only has 250,000 or whatever the population is, has two senators, and California has two senators.

00:33:06.000 It's like, you don't understand why.

00:33:09.000 It's just you're just looking at the population and you're like, oh, it should be equal.

00:33:12.000 It's like that's what the House of Representatives is for.

00:33:15.000 If you look at how many representatives from California versus how many representatives from Montana, it's a significant difference.

00:33:21.000 They don't understand anything about our system.

00:33:22.000 They have no understanding about how anything works.

00:33:25.000 And then you elect the president and they're like, well, the president should just do this and the president should do that.

00:33:29.000 The president doesn't have any powers to do the things that they're asking for.

00:33:32.000 They're like, oh, you know, Joe Biden, he's going to forgive student loans.

00:33:37.000 The president doesn't have the power.

00:33:38.000 There was never a point where the president could say, I'm going to go ahead and forgive you of a debt that you yourself decided that you wanted to take on.

00:33:46.000 But people still vote for politicians that make these promises.

00:33:51.000 We should have far fewer people voting because people don't know how our government works.

00:33:55.000 You want to vote in your state elections?

00:33:57.000 Okay.

00:33:58.000 You want to vote in your local elections?

00:33:59.000 That's where you really get the most bang for your vote, right?

00:34:02.000 You vote for your local mayor, your local selectman, whatever, alderman, whatever it's called in your area.

00:34:09.000 You'll actually be able to affect policy in your area.

00:34:12.000 But when it comes to the federal government, It should be a significantly fewer, like a lot fewer.

00:34:17.000 And how did that work for Spencer Pratt?

00:34:19.000 What?

00:34:20.000 How'd that work for Spencer Pratt?

00:34:21.000 Oh, I think they're still counting votes.

00:34:22.000 We'll see.

00:34:23.000 Yeah, they're still counting votes.

00:34:25.000 And look, California is a special case, but it's still the fact.

00:34:30.000 You know California is a special case.

00:34:31.000 Okay, fine.

00:34:32.000 All Democrat cities are a special case.

00:34:34.000 Yeah, of course.

00:34:34.000 Right.

00:34:35.000 I don't know.

00:34:36.000 I don't know.

00:34:36.000 I'm not sure.

00:34:37.000 But look, I understand.

00:34:38.000 Look, your point is well taken because I know that California has been run by a single party for so long, they've been able to.

00:34:38.000 I understand.

00:34:45.000 Create a system where they can kind of push people out that they don't like.

00:34:48.000 That's fair too.

00:34:49.000 Us too, 1950.

00:34:50.000 What?

00:34:50.000 Us too, 1950.

00:34:51.000 It was us.

00:34:52.000 Philly.

00:34:52.000 Well, okay.

00:34:53.000 So, fine, fair enough.

00:34:53.000 Democrat run cities.

00:34:54.000 But the point that I'm making is if you're not in a Democrat run city and you're, you're, you can, even still, you're going to have way more impact on your local election than you're going to be able to have on a federal election.

00:35:05.000 Yeah, true. 0.98

00:35:05.000 I think before any of that stuff, though, I mean, realistically, you have had over the last 40, 50 years mass importing people from countries that aren't really assimilating to American culture and they're coming here and they're coming here for the benefits. 0.98

00:35:18.000 And that's very clear. 0.96

00:35:19.000 You see this in Europe where they'll skip through entire countries and go directly to the countries with the most benefits.

00:35:24.000 And so you already have people coming to the country that are going there for the purpose of getting those handouts.

00:35:31.000 What are they going to vote for more of?

00:35:33.000 Yeah, they're going to vote for more of the policies.

00:35:35.000 They're certainly not going to vote for protecting America as a country.

00:35:41.000 They're going to go for voting for more of what they wanted when they originally got here. 0.96

00:35:45.000 Mandom, it just said that everybody wants rent control.

00:35:48.000 And we know how bad that is.

00:35:50.000 Here's another example, though. 1.00

00:35:51.000 Native New Yorkers are not the people that were. 1.00

00:35:53.000 Totally 100% Mamdani. 1.00

00:35:55.000 That wasn't the case. 0.81

00:35:56.000 Well, it was the wealthy white people that were really voting for the New York Times.

00:36:01.000 It was a lot of that, and then it was a lot of people that were not born in New York at all.

00:36:05.000 Yeah.

00:36:06.000 You know, people that moved there, immigrated there.

00:36:07.000 All right, we're going to jump to this story here.

00:36:09.000 This should be great. 0.96

00:36:11.000 From the post millennial breaking, Tyler Robinson's trans lover, Lance Twiggs, DNA found on screwdriver and a towel at UVU after Charlie Kirk's killing. 0.99

00:36:22.000 This is going to be gross, ladies and gentlemen. 0.78

00:36:25.000 During testimony on day two of Tyler Robinson's preliminary hearing, it was revealed that DNA evidence recovered from a screwdriver and towel retrieved from Utah Valley University in the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing belonged to Lance Twiggs, Robinson's transgender lover.

00:36:40.000 Jenna Faumina, a sergeant at the Utah Department of Public Safety who has worked in the State Bureau of Investigation at the time of the shooting, read out portions of a DNA report.

00:36:51.000 Do we want to play this?

00:36:54.000 Yes.

00:36:55.000 Sergeant Faumina, do you see the lines there that say item seven?

00:36:59.000 That line?

00:37:00.000 Yes.

00:37:01.000 And will you read that portion of the report that describes what item seven is?

00:37:07.000 Item seven, Tau from around Mauser rifle, serial number 8863.

00:37:12.000 Serial number 8863.

00:37:16.000 And there's also some other identification numbers.

00:37:19.000 Is that the towel that you found with the rifle that day?

00:37:22.000 Yes, it is.

00:37:23.000 On September 10th?

00:37:24.000 Yes.

00:37:25.000 Item 8.

00:37:26.000 Will you read what that says is a description of item 8?

00:37:29.000 Item 8, screwdriver from perch.

00:37:32.000 And is that the screwdriver that you described that was collected from the rooftop?

00:37:36.000 Yes.

00:37:38.000 Okay.

00:37:40.000 All right.

00:37:41.000 All right, yeah.

00:37:42.000 I think we can go into that.

00:37:44.000 From the title episode.

00:37:46.000 From the title episode.

00:37:47.000 At the shooting position.

00:37:49.000 Like, what are we.

00:37:49.000 Case closed.

00:37:50.000 Did people want to know if there's more to it than just this guy?

00:37:53.000 And I'm not saying someone claiming that his DNA was on the weapons towel and a screwdriver at the shooting spot is enough to damn him to guilt, but what is the.

00:38:04.000 Well, it's strong.

00:38:05.000 How about you rip the top off?

00:38:06.000 Remember, it's that the lover, their DNA was on it.

00:38:12.000 Was it both?

00:38:12.000 It was more of one.

00:38:13.000 It was like 75% like the.

00:38:17.000 Training guy, and then it was.

00:38:19.000 Am I not allowed to say that?

00:38:19.000 No, you're not allowed to say that.

00:38:21.000 What you meant was transsexual.

00:38:23.000 Yes, I'm sorry.

00:38:25.000 I didn't know.

00:38:26.000 I always get in trouble for that.

00:38:27.000 Yeah, you did know.

00:38:28.000 You actually did.

00:38:29.000 No, no, I didn't remember.

00:38:30.000 Okay, so anyway, the um, whatever.

00:38:33.000 Twigs is buddy.

00:38:34.000 I'm always gonna get in trouble.

00:38:36.000 Yeah, Twigs. 1.00

00:38:37.000 Okay, the one who's like missing. 0.73

00:38:38.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:38:41.000 But anyway, there was more 75% his and 5% the other ones.

00:38:44.000 Now they did live together, right? 0.81

00:38:46.000 Probably shared a towel.

00:38:47.000 It's probably a bathroom towel hanging on the stall.

00:38:49.000 No, they didn't say what kind of DNA it was, Phil.

00:38:52.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:38:52.000 I didn't say anything like that.

00:38:54.000 I don't know why you're putting words in my mouth.

00:38:56.000 Because that's what I thought you were going to do.

00:38:58.000 It's DNA.

00:38:59.000 Is there different types of DNA?

00:39:00.000 Yes.

00:39:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:01.000 You can definitely tell what type of DNA it's from and where it's from.

00:39:05.000 You could tell if it's saliva or if it's other stuff.

00:39:09.000 Or skin cells or whatever.

00:39:12.000 Yeah, you can absolutely tell.

00:39:14.000 But even still, the point is if you've got twigs, DNA on it.

00:39:19.000 It is who wasn't at the site, who wasn't, you know, who wasn't at UVU.

00:39:25.000 It's obviously strong indication that this towel came from their home because they were living together, right?

00:39:33.000 Even though it had some of Tyler's DNA, but it was the other person's DNA that was the predominant situation.

00:39:41.000 I haven't really read up on this, but it's Twiggs, the roommate. 0.97

00:39:44.000 That's the trans. 0.99

00:39:45.000 Is he in custody right now? 1.00

00:39:46.000 No, he's in.

00:39:46.000 Witness protection.

00:39:47.000 Yeah, witness protection.

00:39:48.000 Okay.

00:39:49.000 Miraculously, he's gone and not.

00:39:49.000 That person's gone.

00:39:51.000 I think he was in witness protection, but I don't know if he's still.

00:39:54.000 He's like the star witness for the prosecution?

00:39:56.000 Is he prosecuted?

00:39:57.000 I think he has immunity, but I'd have to double check that.

00:40:01.000 Yeah, well, so I took his towel?

00:40:04.000 Well, I mean, look, it connects Tyler to the murder weapon.

00:40:10.000 Yeah.

00:40:11.000 And, well, I mean, yeah, why not?

00:40:13.000 I wouldn't have a problem with them considering him an accessory, considering all the text messages and back and forth and posts and stuff that you've.

00:40:20.000 I have a feeling we'll probably end up seeing more coming out about that.

00:40:24.000 We'll probably be seeing a lot more coming out about that.

00:40:27.000 There were a lot of Twitter posts talking about the day, like the day before the actual shooting happened.

00:40:33.000 There were people that were saying, oh, there's going to be a big.

00:40:35.000 Thing happening at UVU today.

00:40:37.000 Tomorrow, yeah.

00:40:37.000 It was multiple.

00:40:38.000 Multiple Twitter posts.

00:40:39.000 Now, I don't know if they got to that today or if they talked about that today, but that's something that's worth it.

00:40:44.000 People should know.

00:40:45.000 There were multiple people from that Discord that were talking about it.

00:40:47.000 There were multiple people that were alluding to something happening at UVU on the day in question.

00:40:53.000 I would be shocked if he was able to successfully keep that plan to himself leading up to that.

00:40:59.000 I don't think he tried.

00:41:00.000 Yeah.

00:41:02.000 I think that he was talking about it in, you know, if I understand correctly, now, obviously, I'm not in the courtroom.

00:41:07.000 I don't have access to all the.

00:41:09.000 The evidence that the FBI has, but like, yeah, I don't think that he was trying to keep it quiet.

00:41:14.000 It seems like he was talking about it with people that were in that Discord, and people knew that there was the possibility of something going on.

00:41:22.000 Very easy for people to look at Discord and see who's doing something and then encourage and help people to get their things done.

00:41:29.000 Yeah, because if someone was like, yeah, do it, does that make them an accessory to murder?

00:41:33.000 Yes.

00:41:33.000 Because if someone comes online and they're like, I'm thinking about doing a horrible crime, and I'm like, ah, yeah, just on like World of Warcraft in general chat.

00:41:40.000 Am I now, and then he goes and does some more work?

00:41:42.000 Am I like an accessory to that, even though it's some internet chat?

00:41:44.000 Well, if you egg him on more than probably a.

00:41:46.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:41:47.000 Yeah, if you don't tell on him and stuff, absolutely.

00:41:49.000 Yeah.

00:41:50.000 Because, like, if someone comes on and they're like, I'm going to go fill out the blank legal, I'm like, what about I have to report this guy to the FBI?

00:41:57.000 I don't want anything to do with that.

00:41:58.000 I don't even know if that's a bot.

00:41:59.000 I don't know if it's a real person.

00:42:01.000 I don't have a duty to report someone's telling me they're going to commit a crime.

00:42:04.000 If you're the kind of person that's like, whoa, I don't want to know anything about this, you probably shouldn't tell them, oh, do it.

00:42:09.000 You definitely need to.

00:42:10.000 Don't comply.

00:42:10.000 You should.

00:42:11.000 Oh, there's just so much internet garbage of people saying they're going to do stuff when, like, just don't get involved. 0.83

00:42:16.000 No, no, no.

00:42:17.000 So, if I came to you and I said, Ian, I'm about to do X, Y, Z, and you don't say anything, you can definitely be in trouble for them.

00:42:23.000 But if it's like in a chat room with like 10,000 people you don't know, and one of the chatters says a thing and it like flies by in the chat room, you're like, you're not.

00:42:30.000 Yeah, that's good.

00:42:31.000 I mean, but they did that.

00:42:32.000 Like, so there was this case on Reddit where this guy, he wound up trying to be a serial killer killing homeless people.

00:42:36.000 And he said, hey, you know, on Reddit, my cop buddy, whatever, said that. 0.98

00:42:43.000 You know, they're investigating the serial killer out there, but everybody's like, No, you're crazy. 0.75

00:42:46.000 Nobody is talking about a serial killer.

00:42:49.000 Nobody's investigating that.

00:42:50.000 The police aren't investigating it.

00:42:51.000 Somebody sent that to the police.

00:42:53.000 They saw it.

00:42:54.000 And then he started offing people.

00:42:57.000 And because somebody turned that in, they knew exactly where to go and who to arrest.

00:43:01.000 So you're like, Yeah, you should turn those in.

00:43:03.000 And I think Ian's example was more of like a live stream chat where there's like 10,000 comments every one second.

00:43:08.000 Guess what these red feeds are?

00:43:10.000 It's a level of scale. 0.59

00:43:12.000 They should probably go to jail just because they're redditors. 1.00

00:43:14.000 Because if it's like, Yeah, true. 1.00

00:43:15.000 If it's someone I know that comes up to me and Tells me in confidence they're going to go commit a horrible murder, I have a kind of a moral duty to turn them in or do something to stop them.

00:43:22.000 You don't have a moral duty if it's like, I get what you're saying.

00:43:24.000 That doesn't scale.

00:43:25.000 It's to the point where if I don't know who the person is and a guy comes up to me on the street and says, I'm going to go commit a crime, go rob a thing, and I'm like, I'm not involved in this guy's crazy world.

00:43:34.000 I'm going to be sure he has some milk.

00:43:36.000 If people threaten to kidnap my kids online, I definitely call the FBI.

00:43:40.000 Yeah.

00:43:40.000 I mean, if you're just on the internet in a chat room or something like that, you're not an accessory if someone says, puts something crazy in the chat.

00:43:48.000 And you don't go to the FBI.

00:43:49.000 You're not going to be considered an accessory.

00:43:50.000 And literally, if a guy walks up to me and he's like, I'm going to go rob that bank, and I go, I'll see you later, buddy.

00:43:56.000 I'm not accessorizing him by not turning him in.

00:43:58.000 You're not.

00:43:58.000 No, you're not.

00:43:59.000 Because he hasn't committed the crime yet.

00:44:00.000 If I witness him commit the crime.

00:44:01.000 Yeah, we're talking about something that's totally different.

00:44:03.000 And friends that he's with at a private Discord.

00:44:04.000 We're far away from it.

00:44:05.000 Yeah, this is totally different.

00:44:06.000 You're talking about a totally different discussion.

00:44:08.000 Yeah, you're talking about a totally different discussion.

00:44:11.000 It's extrapolating proximity to guilt.

00:44:14.000 Just because you were with someone that was saying they were going to commit a crime and you didn't tell them not to doesn't mean that you're guilty.

00:44:19.000 So, hey, I'm encouraging you if you were in chat rooms with that guy, turn him in.

00:44:22.000 You're not going to get busted for it.

00:44:24.000 Show the chat logs.

00:44:25.000 And secondly, anything that you guys tried to delete is still going to be available for the FBI.

00:44:28.000 They can undelete, they have hash codes and things for all what you think is gone, all that data.

00:44:34.000 Of secret conversations on Discord is all available to the FBI, so there's no hiding it.

00:44:38.000 So come out ahead of it and expose this dude and his cabal.

00:44:41.000 If there are groups of them working together, you know, call him out.

00:44:45.000 Best advice to you.

00:44:46.000 Quick fact check on something I said earlier Lance Twiggs, there's no evidence that he is in the witness protection program right now, but he does have limited use.

00:44:54.000 Well, that's a good point, Phil.

00:44:56.000 Possibly.

00:44:57.000 But also, he does have limited use immunity from federal and Utah County authorities.

00:45:02.000 I bet he thought he was going to get thrown in jail, and he just was like, I'll do anything.

00:45:06.000 I'll tell you anything you want to know.

00:45:08.000 Look, man, they've got, they literally have his DNA on the towel that was wrapped up.

00:45:14.000 That's the kind of thing where you're like, all right, I'm going to make a deal.

00:45:16.000 You know, that like if your DNA is on something that is wrapping up the murder weapon, you're, they definitely have you in a position where you're like, I need to protect myself.

00:45:27.000 It feels like an open and shut case, and I think it should be.

00:45:30.000 Like, I feel like the longer we talk about it and make a big deal out of it, maybe not, maybe it's okay to talk about it once in a while.

00:45:35.000 You think, this is why I didn't want to do this.

00:45:36.000 I've changed my mind.

00:45:37.000 I don't, nothing.

00:45:38.000 I said I disagree, but.

00:45:40.000 Well, the actual murder case is.

00:45:42.000 Or the evidence of who committed the murder and the circumstances surrounding the actual murder.

00:45:49.000 Like, it does have all of the fingers pointing at one guy.

00:45:53.000 Right?

00:45:54.000 Like, I mean, it does look like Tyler was the guy.

00:45:56.000 I definitely think Tyler was involved, 100%.

00:45:57.000 Yeah.

00:45:58.000 So, I mean, it looks like he was the guy that actually took the shot.

00:46:01.000 You know, it looks like he was talking to people in the Discord about it.

00:46:05.000 So, I mean, anything beyond that, like.

00:46:10.000 I mean, people can pontificate, but that's not something that necessarily is going to put people into a legally actionable position.

00:46:17.000 A lot of people are aware of those weird posts that were coming out the day before of them being like, oh, well, there's something big happening tomorrow.

00:46:24.000 I mean, there were at least several of those posts made.

00:46:27.000 Outside of this trial, there needs to be a serious look at Discord or whatever groups were in the area that could have had anything to do with this as well.

00:46:38.000 Because people aren't going to stop asking questions about that.

00:46:40.000 I don't think we should.

00:46:42.000 I think it's fair.

00:46:42.000 Like the Kennedy assassination, I'm talking about John F. Kennedy with Lee Harvey Oswald getting pinned.

00:46:48.000 Everything was pinned on Harvey Oswald.

00:46:50.000 His gun was in the building on a different floor from him when they caught him.

00:46:53.000 He was eating a sandwich, just chilling out.

00:46:55.000 As they were arresting him, he's like, I'm a patsy, you guys.

00:46:58.000 There were apparently multiple gunshots at Kennedy from different angles.

00:47:01.000 Like, still hasn't been exposed.

00:47:02.000 Allegedly not been exposed.

00:47:03.000 Allegedly, not been exposed.

00:47:05.000 Allegedly, multiple gunshots, but officially one.

00:47:07.000 Is that what it is?

00:47:08.000 They hit him in multiple places.

00:47:09.000 There were multiple shots.

00:47:11.000 Allegedly.

00:47:12.000 Multiple angles.

00:47:12.000 It was, it was no, not multiple angles.

00:47:14.000 Allegedly, it was Lee Harvey Oswald and he took more than one shot.

00:47:17.000 That's the official story.

00:47:18.000 So, my daughter's like was learning about this in school this year andor last year.

00:47:22.000 I can't remember this year or last year.

00:47:23.000 Anyway, and she said, Well, she's questioned Lee Harvey Oswald to her teacher, and the teacher says he admitted it.

00:47:31.000 Like, that's how far along, like, the official narratives are.

00:47:35.000 They're saying that Lee Harvey Oswald admitted it when he never admitted it.

00:47:39.000 Like, never, never, never.

00:47:40.000 If anything, he claimed he was a patsy, and there's all this other evidence about.

00:47:43.000 Could you imagine when your teacher is just going over that in detail with your kid, though?

00:47:43.000 All the cover ups.

00:47:48.000 But no, I'm not.

00:47:49.000 So today we're going to learn about Patsy's.

00:47:51.000 But why are they going to be like, oh, no, no, he's definitely who killed them?

00:47:54.000 He admitted it.

00:47:55.000 And like, the people don't know.

00:47:58.000 Like, people don't even, still to this day, don't know that, like, there's any legitimacy or conspiracy even surrounding that, which I think is crazy.

00:48:06.000 You don't think people know?

00:48:07.000 I mean, there was.

00:48:08.000 The teacher apparently didn't.

00:48:09.000 Well, she might not have wanted to talk about it, but I mean, you know, didn't all of the kids.

00:48:09.000 She had no idea.

00:48:12.000 To lie then, do you think you're going to lie to the kids and say he admitted it?

00:48:15.000 I think a teacher would definitely lie to kids.

00:48:17.000 And also don't know.

00:48:17.000 I don't know.

00:48:18.000 There was a lot of people.

00:48:19.000 I think a lot of people don't know.

00:48:20.000 I think a lot of people really did not know that.

00:48:22.000 My mom had no idea what MKUltra was.

00:48:23.000 The JFK movie that, what's his name, Oliver Stone made.

00:48:27.000 Like, that was all about the conspiracy, wasn't it?

00:48:29.000 It popularized it.

00:48:30.000 That was a big movie, too.

00:48:32.000 I mean, maybe I'm sure that there are some people that don't know, but I would err on to dishonesty from the teacher than ignorance.

00:48:39.000 Ignorance.

00:48:40.000 You think so? 0.80

00:48:41.000 Yeah, I'm telling you.

00:48:42.000 A lot of these teachers, they can't even, not in my school, my school's an exception, but like you see these schools and these teachers can't even spell words.

00:48:50.000 Well, there was that viral video from Philly, right?

00:48:52.000 With the student going up to the faculty, not even faculty, no, teachers and the principal, I believe.

00:48:52.000 Yeah, it was so funny.

00:48:58.000 Yeah, the teacher.

00:48:58.000 And he's asking them to.

00:49:00.000 What, spell out some, you know, decently.

00:49:03.000 They weren't hard.

00:49:03.000 No.

00:49:04.000 Millennials ought to love you.

00:49:05.000 There you go.

00:49:06.000 Okay.

00:49:07.000 So, like, what I'm saying, no, I think that you're around people that talk about these things all the time and know this, but most.

00:49:15.000 It's exhausting.

00:49:16.000 It is exhausting, but most people don't.

00:49:18.000 They have, like, my parents, for instance, they don't know.

00:49:21.000 They just know that there was something fishy about the Kennedy assassination for sure.

00:49:24.000 Their whole lives, they've been like, yo, bro, the CIA, who knows what.

00:49:27.000 But I think that that's residual about what's going on with the.

00:49:29.000 Charlie's assassination is people are like, there's a cover up.

00:49:32.000 There's got to be something going on.

00:49:34.000 Yeah, I mean, look, man, the COVID broke people.

00:49:36.000 It really broke people.

00:49:38.000 The fact that the government was lying so much about what happened with COVID and what was going on, and with the availability of information now, people didn't know that when people found out that Fauci had something to do with the way that HIV was, the laws that were being made, or the narrative that was being spread about HIV, and then finding out that he has something to do with COVID too, they're just like, all right, I don't believe anything.

00:50:02.000 All the lies the government.

00:50:04.000 Was making about COVID really, really broke people's brains.

00:50:09.000 And when I say broke people's brains, what I mean is it made people incredibly skeptical of the official narrative.

00:50:16.000 And for good reason, right?

00:50:18.000 The government has definitely lied about a ton of stuff, whether it be CIA operations that are not supposed to be happening in the U.S., but absolutely were, selling drugs in the U.S. to fund freedom fighters in South America and stuff.

00:50:35.000 The government has done really terrible things.

00:50:37.000 So it's.

00:50:39.000 Totally valid and completely justified to be very skeptical of the government.

00:50:43.000 But that doesn't, just because you're skeptical of the government doesn't mean everything that is the official narrative is always wrong.

00:50:49.000 It's usually not that it's 100% wrong.

00:50:52.000 It's usually what they call a limited hangout, right?

00:50:54.000 So, like, when Nixon was being investigated for Watergate, they brought this stuff to him and they said, Look, we think that you should tell a little bit of the truth.

00:51:04.000 And he's like, What?

00:51:05.000 So Nixon replied by saying, What?

00:51:06.000 We should just let it all hang out.

00:51:09.000 The advisors replied, Well, what we're thinking of is a limited hangout.

00:51:13.000 You tell a little bit of the truth, but we hide this stuff.

00:51:17.000 And that's kind of the MO of the government now.

00:51:19.000 They'll tell you, they will tell you true things, but they don't tell you the whole story.

00:51:23.000 And then when people hear that there were things that they hid, then the reaction is, Well, it's all a lie.

00:51:31.000 And that's not how things work generally because the more confused people are, the more bits of truth and bits of deception that people ingest, the more confused they are about the actual reality.

00:51:43.000 And they tend to stop believing anything and they'll pick up on whatever their preferred narrative is and whatever their emotional reaction is, and they're like, this is what I believe.

00:51:52.000 Right.

00:51:52.000 And so then it doesn't matter whether what they believe is true or whether they have a lot of evidence for it.

00:51:57.000 They're not going to believe the official story because that's the government and the government always lies because the government does lie enough to make people justified in that opinion.

00:52:05.000 So they just decide, well, this is what I think.

00:52:07.000 And so this is the narrative that I'm going to stick to.

00:52:09.000 I think it's also super important to keep in mind that Blue and On will grab onto every single, any potential chaotic event or chaotic event and they will push their narrative as hard as they can as well in that area.

00:52:23.000 For an example, every single assassination attempt that I've ever talked to people.

00:52:27.000 Folks on the left about on the street, they have brought up that, oh, it was a loving Trump supporter that tried to kill him.

00:52:33.000 Oh, they'll bring up everything.

00:52:35.000 I heard one person mention for the Butler situation, for the Butler assassination attempt, that no, Trump actually squeezed like ketchup on him when he was on the ground.

00:52:47.000 So, you know, they have every incentive to get the heat away from them as well.

00:52:53.000 So just keep that in mind whenever we're seeing these crazy things happen.

00:52:56.000 That's why I said, like, people will decide that this is the narrative that I like.

00:53:00.000 And that's the one that they stick to.

00:53:01.000 Like the people that are, that are, you know, that don't like Trump, they still believe that the whole Butler situation, the attempt was a lie.

00:53:08.000 It was all fake.

00:53:10.000 You know, like you said, whether it be ketchup or blood packs or something.

00:53:12.000 The left would never try to do this to Donald Trump.

00:53:14.000 What do you, you know, that's the narrative, I guess.

00:53:16.000 And nobody should be buying that, at least for that one specifically, you know what I mean?

00:53:20.000 Yeah, I mean, and it doesn't matter how many attempts that there have been on Donald Trump.

00:53:24.000 And never mind the fact that, you know, all indications are that it was a leftist that killed Charlie Kirk.

00:53:30.000 Again, this is still to be found.

00:53:33.000 If it is actually true, but that's what it seems to be the case.

00:53:37.000 And the left will do anything they can to point the finger at the right and be like, no, no, no.

00:53:43.000 His family were Trump supporters.

00:53:45.000 They have everything to gain by pushing that away from their behavior.

00:53:50.000 And their behavior over the last 10 years has been horrifying.

00:53:54.000 It is constantly horrifying and escalating.

00:53:58.000 And escalating.

00:53:59.000 Rhetorical violence bothers me because I don't like it.

00:54:01.000 I don't even like saying we got to fight for our rights.

00:54:04.000 Like, oh, you start using the word fight.

00:54:06.000 You unleash that beast, dude.

00:54:08.000 That beast has a mind of its own.

00:54:09.000 Because one word's.

00:54:10.000 What I mean by that might not be what that guy with the knife means when he says, we're going to fight for our rights.

00:54:15.000 You got to be real careful about inciting violence.

00:54:17.000 That's like a generic campaign slogan vigilante justice.

00:54:20.000 You see the guy with the naked bikers?

00:54:23.000 I wouldn't know what happened.

00:54:23.000 Uh-uh.

00:54:24.000 He was shooting them with a BB gun. 0.57

00:54:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:27.000 He got arrested, right?

00:54:28.000 No problem. 0.99

00:54:28.000 Did you hear about Mexican Batman? 0.99

00:54:30.000 No.

00:54:31.000 Mexican Batman's cool.

00:54:31.000 Tell us about it.

00:54:32.000 He's in Mexico, and there's these thieves, and he's sick of them.

00:54:36.000 And so he goes around on his motorcycle and gets these motorcycle thieves, and he. 0.95

00:54:40.000 Duct tapes them to poles and he draws like whiskers on their face and writes rat on their head.

00:54:44.000 And he's been going around, and of course, they're looking for him and not the thieves.

00:54:48.000 But yeah, like, no, I'm okay with this new vigilante wave of things.

00:54:52.000 How come the superheroes get villainized like Spider Man?

00:54:55.000 How come the cops are like, I don't want to actually get Batman?

00:54:56.000 I mean, they like him.

00:54:58.000 Like, we like him, but like, the government doesn't.

00:55:01.000 If you're talking about comic books, it's because of they, you know, you have to have drama in the comic book because it's a story.

00:55:06.000 And they want it's not real, it's pretend.

00:55:08.000 They're like, yeah, it's weird when like they made Spider Man's like the bad guy, but He has to do it anyway, you know, even though he knows what he's doing is making him look worse.

00:55:17.000 I'm not with you, Lisa.

00:55:18.000 I don't like vigilante justice.

00:55:20.000 I'm turning a tide, you know?

00:55:22.000 I used to not like it, but now I do. 1.00

00:55:23.000 The Mexican Batman sounds totally epic.

00:55:25.000 I know nothing about that, but that sounds excellent.

00:55:27.000 Let's make a movie about him.

00:55:29.000 But that aside, I think.

00:55:30.000 You don't like the naked biker thing either with the BB gun?

00:55:32.000 I don't like that. 0.99

00:55:33.000 Because we're not in a third world country, we should actually demand a little bit more of our communities and our police forces and all that stuff instead of saying some idiot can go out there. 0.98

00:55:44.000 And by the way, a lot of vigilantes. 0.99

00:55:46.000 They're not really good at their job.

00:55:47.000 They think they're better than they are.

00:55:49.000 I don't get it.

00:55:49.000 We should actually demand a little bit more of our communities, of our policing, of our culture.

00:55:53.000 People are going to be scared.

00:55:54.000 If people are going to be scared to ride their bikes naked in front of children because people might get them with a CD gun.

00:56:00.000 That is a good thing.

00:56:01.000 But in a general sense, I think in a general sense, we see vigilance.

00:56:04.000 And it ends up being a little bit more disappointing than that story right there.

00:56:08.000 Okay, so to your point, James, I do think that we should demand more out of law enforcement.

00:56:12.000 Look, you should enforce the laws that are on the books.

00:56:14.000 But at the same time.

00:56:15.000 Well, it's not just law enforcement.

00:56:16.000 Sorry, that's actually totally myth.

00:56:18.000 I didn't mean them specifically.

00:56:19.000 I mean more of just our leadership.

00:56:21.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:56:22.000 Fair enough. 0.98

00:56:23.000 But to Lisa's point, like, look, If you're the kind of dude that's walking around, like if you've got a family and you're walking around with your kids and some dude rolls by naked and is like swinging his junk, I am fully, like fully endorse you popping that dude in the face. 0.93

00:56:40.000 That's basically vigilante justice, yes? 0.93

00:56:40.000 I'm pretty sure. 0.93

00:56:43.000 No, no, no.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, it is.

00:56:44.000 But just to be clear, we're not calling for any of this.

00:56:46.000 No, we're not.

00:56:47.000 We're not.

00:56:47.000 We're not calling for it.

00:56:48.000 But at the same time, it's like, look.

00:56:49.000 I'm saying I don't mind. 0.99

00:56:51.000 He swings his junk in your kid's face. 1.00

00:56:52.000 He's assaulting your child. 1.00

00:56:54.000 You have to defend the child.

00:56:55.000 But the point is.

00:56:56.000 He's just swinging it and it's popping in their face.

00:56:58.000 But the point.

00:56:58.000 The point is, we as a society should not accept that kind of behavior.

00:57:03.000 For sure.

00:57:04.000 Right?

00:57:04.000 So that's the point.

00:57:05.000 The fact that we're that far to where that person isn't being absolutely locked up, thrown in jail for 10 years for swinging his.

00:57:12.000 I mean, there wasn't in front of kids.

00:57:13.000 I just.

00:57:14.000 You should be gone.

00:57:15.000 You should be off the streets.

00:57:16.000 You should have no place inside.

00:57:18.000 In Spain, right?

00:57:19.000 I saw. 0.92

00:57:19.000 Yeah, there was a video from Spain where there was a guy that was just on the beach just masturbating in front of kids inside. 0.92

00:57:28.000 Is it England or something?

00:57:29.000 It was Spain, I think it was Spain.

00:57:30.000 And it took a minute, but the, you know, West Coast or East Coast?

00:57:34.000 I don't know, but it was very interesting.

00:57:35.000 But the point, like, he was clearly, it wasn't like, he wasn't hiding behind a towel or anything.

00:57:40.000 He was looking at little kids.

00:57:41.000 Like, little kids.

00:57:42.000 And he should be removed from polite society.

00:57:43.000 Yeah, like, and, you know, the people actually did something.

00:57:47.000 At first they did.

00:57:48.000 And they grabbed, yeah, at first they didn't, but they grabbed him and, like, they were.

00:57:51.000 And then there was that liberal white woman and they're like, no, no, no, no.

00:57:53.000 Yeah, she jumped in and was like, don't hurt her.

00:57:55.000 She was like, trying to protect him.

00:57:56.000 I didn't watch the video.

00:57:57.000 Did she really do that? 1.00

00:57:58.000 She actually came in as the savior of the. 0.99

00:57:58.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:58:00.000 Did they see him?

00:58:03.000 Yes.

00:58:04.000 Yeah, she was trying to prevent people from hurting him.

00:58:06.000 Hurting him, yeah.

00:58:07.000 Did she win?

00:58:08.000 Did they stop?

00:58:09.000 Well, I'm pretty sure the guy got arrested.

00:58:11.000 But that's the point.

00:58:12.000 Not when she was stopping him.

00:58:15.000 Society shouldn't allow that kind of stuff.

00:58:17.000 We shouldn't just say, oh, well, you know, we're going to let people do that kind of stuff.

00:58:20.000 Like, the police should absolutely be arresting these people immediately.

00:58:24.000 What about robot vigilantes?

00:58:26.000 If, like, a corporation.

00:58:27.000 Why do you like robots so much?

00:58:28.000 No, we don't want any robots.

00:58:29.000 Why are you trying to offload this to machines?

00:58:33.000 Who are the police officers?

00:58:34.000 He's like, I want the Terminator.

00:58:35.000 I want RoboCraft.

00:58:37.000 Who's in control of the robot?

00:58:38.000 No, I want y'all to entertain it.

00:58:39.000 Who's in control of the robot?

00:58:40.000 Exactly.

00:58:40.000 There's multiple ways.

00:58:41.000 You could have autonomous robots, or you could have a police force program robotic force.

00:58:44.000 We're definitely not doing autonomous robots.

00:58:46.000 Let's say autonomous.

00:58:46.000 No, we don't want that.

00:58:47.000 For the example, it would be an autonomous police force that's just overseeing things to make sure we're not breaking laws.

00:58:52.000 You're literally talking about constant supervision and Terminator enforcement.

00:58:58.000 You endorse this?

00:58:59.000 What I bring up now is vigilante justice.

00:59:01.000 Obviously, people can take it upon themselves emotionally to go wreck some havoc because crime's not getting dealt with enough.

00:59:07.000 I get it.

00:59:07.000 That's the human vigilante.

00:59:09.000 But if a corporation's like, I'm tired of this crime on the streets.

00:59:12.000 I'm tired of 7 Eleven getting robbed.

00:59:14.000 I'm unleashing my drone force overnight.

00:59:16.000 There's going to be drones.

00:59:17.000 You're going to have machine guns to fly around the world.

00:59:19.000 No, you're taking out a criminal army of robots. 0.97

00:59:21.000 We just don't need.

00:59:22.000 We're not asking too much.

00:59:24.000 But it's okay for a person to be able to do it.

00:59:28.000 We don't need to do it.

00:59:29.000 Nobody knows what to do.

00:59:31.000 It's okay for people to take the law in their own hands.

00:59:34.000 We're not asking too much, you guys.

00:59:35.000 What we're saying is we need people to demand that law enforcement.

00:59:41.000 Put these people in jail immediately.

00:59:43.000 And leave them there.

00:59:44.000 But in some situations, law enforcement won't.

00:59:47.000 So, like England, for instance, when they were protecting the rape gangs, I've heard there's actually happening.

00:59:51.000 Okay, in England's situation, I support Elon Musk launching a robot army because, yes, they're not going to save themselves.

00:59:56.000 So, talking about vigilante robots.

00:59:58.000 Now, this is what I'm wondering is if a person, through their corporation, their corporate ownership of their autonomous weaponry, decides to do vigilante justice, like Doc, you think that's bad?

01:00:10.000 It is bad.

01:00:10.000 I think vigilantism is bad in general until it's good.

01:00:13.000 No, it's bad.

01:00:14.000 Until all order breaks down.

01:00:16.000 Like the American Revolution was like vigilante.

01:00:19.000 It's crazy to me that you talk about it.

01:00:21.000 Talk about like corporations as if they're bad until this comes up, and then they're like, you know, maybe a corporation should go ahead and make a bunch of robots to be law enforcement outside of the normal.

01:00:32.000 It could be a guy that's not registered, it could just be a guy that owns 19 drones and he's hooked up to a neural net and he controls them all and flies around town at night patrolling the city on his own because he feels like cops aren't doing it.

01:00:41.000 So, okay, so like if you're talking about like high tech neighborhood watch, that's one thing.

01:00:47.000 It's totally different when you're talking because you just mentioned drones with machine guns, right?

01:00:51.000 Like, so drones that are, if you're like a dude.

01:00:55.000 That has a couple drones or whatever, and you are like, I'm the neighborhood watch, and I have this drone that flies around my neighborhood and keeps an eye out to make sure nothing's going wrong.

01:01:05.000 And then if you see something weird, you call the police, perfectly fine.

01:01:09.000 I'm totally cool with that.

01:01:10.000 You have a drone that flies around.

01:01:12.000 No, It's too much assault.

01:01:18.000 Well, I'm, hey, I'm not.

01:01:19.000 I know you like the robots.

01:01:20.000 I think they're terrible.

01:01:22.000 I like using robots as an example because I want to take ethics out of it.

01:01:26.000 I want to just look at it as a What is there a neutral system in place that does what we're talking about?

01:01:29.000 There is no neutral system because as soon as you're deciding what is and is not legal, then you're making a value judgment.

01:01:37.000 Correct.

01:01:38.000 So there is no neutral system.

01:01:39.000 There's no such thing as neutrality in the world.

01:01:42.000 As much as we talk about it, like anytime you make a value judgment, you're no longer neutral.

01:01:49.000 True.

01:01:49.000 It's a good point.

01:01:50.000 You know?

01:01:51.000 So there's no such thing as neutrality.

01:01:53.000 You have to decide what your values are, and those are the values that you want your society to have.

01:01:59.000 And if your society has values, has any particular values, that's not neutral.

01:02:05.000 Right?

01:02:05.000 You want to have justice, but your justice is going to be based on your values.

01:02:12.000 What if they have like pepper spray or like lasers that can blind guys?

01:02:16.000 What you decide to use any kind of force for is making a value judgment.

01:02:24.000 I'm only asking because you know that guy in Portland that was a superhero that went around at night and kicked people out?

01:02:28.000 He wasn't a superhero, he was just a guy.

01:02:30.000 He dressed like one.

01:02:30.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:02:31.000 He was crazy. 0.86

01:02:32.000 You know what I'm talking about? 0.87

01:02:32.000 Well, hold on. 0.87

01:02:34.000 He could have been super.

01:02:35.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:02:36.000 He would, like, he walked around with a posse dressed like a superhero.

01:02:36.000 No.

01:02:40.000 He would fight guys next to him.

01:02:41.000 This is a real story?

01:02:42.000 Yeah, he, like, got worn out in the whole vigilante superhero game.

01:02:46.000 He was doing it at night. 0.95

01:02:47.000 I think his name is Kick Ass. 0.96

01:02:48.000 No, I'm not kidding. 0.95

01:02:49.000 I'm kidding.

01:02:50.000 You guys know him in the chat.

01:02:51.000 Someone's going to name him in the chat.

01:02:53.000 No, I, like, again, Ian.

01:02:54.000 I'm going to lay off the drone.

01:02:56.000 You can't have neutrality.

01:02:58.000 You have, your society makes value judgments.

01:03:01.000 He was driving there.

01:03:01.000 Ian.

01:03:04.000 How do we get on vigilante stuff?

01:03:06.000 From what story that we were talking about? 1.00

01:03:08.000 Because we were talking about units out around children, and then Ian went to, we need to launch an army that'll sterilize the streakers. 1.00

01:03:15.000 Yeah, what if we have vigilante robots? 1.00

01:03:18.000 Insane.

01:03:19.000 What if we, what's the word, extrapolate?

01:03:21.000 I don't want to use it, but scale out our vigilanteism into now I have an army of robots doing my vigilante will.

01:03:26.000 We don't want vigilanteism.

01:03:27.000 Like I said, the line is drawn now.

01:03:30.000 I'm just picking you in chaos.

01:03:31.000 You can agree with individual moments of vigilantism, but in a general sense, it's going to be chaos.

01:03:37.000 If you want, again, if you want to have a dude or a couple dudes that have drones that are monitoring your neighborhood, like a high tech neighborhood watch, and then you call the police, you call the actual law enforcement, go ahead.

01:03:50.000 You've got to.

01:03:51.000 So they can just frame you?

01:03:52.000 But you cannot take matters into your own hand.

01:03:55.000 What'd you say?

01:03:55.000 Can you guys call your sisters and say, I'm just sharing the whammy on this conversation?

01:03:58.000 She is. 0.81

01:03:59.000 She is.

01:03:59.000 You're on the chat and say, Lisa's going so hard against everything Phil says all night.

01:04:03.000 I'm really not, actually.

01:04:04.000 I don't think I was attacking him.

01:04:05.000 The reason I'm going so hard is because what if their police don't respond?

01:04:08.000 That's where.

01:04:09.000 They don't sometimes.

01:04:10.000 That's why we said we need to.

01:04:11.000 They don't investigate things.

01:04:12.000 That's literally why we said we need to hold police to higher standards and you need more.

01:04:16.000 The answer to that is more law enforcement.

01:04:18.000 Local leadership.

01:04:19.000 Police are more than happy to get these guys off the streets.

01:04:22.000 Maybe not in SF, but.

01:04:23.000 What's the problem with SF?

01:04:25.000 They just do a lot of this.

01:04:25.000 I don't know.

01:04:26.000 No, they don't.

01:04:26.000 I've been to those Pride Month protests up there.

01:04:30.000 I don't go to them anymore because.

01:04:31.000 Literally will not do street interviews at those.

01:04:32.000 It's probably bad that you even said that.

01:04:34.000 But here, most cops are going to be like, James Clute, you know, interview people at those things.

01:04:38.000 And we stopped going because there's so many naked dudes around.

01:04:40.000 I was like, dude, I can't do this.

01:04:41.000 There's kids walking around.

01:04:43.000 It's so horrible.

01:04:43.000 See, all those people should be arrested and put in jail.

01:04:46.000 They should be an asylum. 1.00

01:04:46.000 Of course. 1.00

01:04:47.000 They should all go to jail.

01:04:48.000 Well, fine.

01:04:48.000 Medicated.

01:04:49.000 No, I'm not sure about asylums. 1.00

01:04:51.000 Maybe just regular jail. 0.97

01:04:51.000 Why do they get a special jail? 0.97

01:04:54.000 True.

01:04:55.000 Regular jail is fine.

01:04:56.000 Yeah, I guess regular jail is fine.

01:04:58.000 They need to be medicated, though.

01:05:04.000 Well, I mean, I don't know if I'm okay with that.

01:05:13.000 For the safety of, like, the corrections officers.

01:05:23.000 And stuff like this.

01:05:26.000 No, I think that the corrections on corre End the fighting between the two countries.

01:05:40.000 The strikes were expected to hit a variety of military sites and port facilities, U.S. officials said.

01:05:45.000 The renewed attacks were sure to add to the difficulty in the negotiations aimed at fully reopening the strait, rolling back Tehran's disputed nuclear program, and reaching a permanent end to the war launched February 28th.

01:05:56.000 In a statement posted to social media, U.S. Central Command and American forces launched the strikes to impose heavy costs for targeting and attacking commercial shipping crewed by innocent civilians in an international waterway.

01:06:07.000 One U.S. official said the military is targeting Iranian air defense systems, coastal surveillance systems, and ground to air missiles.

01:06:12.000 Missiles, as well as launch sites for anti ship cruise missiles and drones.

01:06:16.000 Iranian port facilities are also being targeted, that official said.

01:06:19.000 The second official said the strikes would likely last for hours.

01:06:23.000 I read something that said that these strikes are not going to just last for hours, that it could be days.

01:06:28.000 I don't know how true that is, but look, the MOU, the Memorandum of Understanding, it looks pretty clear that we can toss that away, that there is no understanding, and that.

01:06:43.000 Whoever is in control of the IRGC, like they are still intent on attacking merchant ships and trying to make an actual, you know, prevent people from using the Strait of Hormuz. 0.58

01:06:56.000 I think the U.S. is probably in a pretty good position to continue preventing that so long as, you know, as long as the military is in the area.

01:07:07.000 And I think these strikes are probably going to continue for a while.

01:07:10.000 I was just reading about this.

01:07:11.000 There were three merchant ships that got hit.

01:07:13.000 There's a Qatari merchant ship, a liquefied natural gas tanker.

01:07:18.000 A Saudi Arabian crude oil super tanker and an unidentified tanker. 0.73

01:07:22.000 You know, and to that point, like the other Arab states, they should be stepping up and saying, look, this is Iran, you know, actually declaring war on us, right?

01:07:32.000 Like the Saudis have no love for Iran at all. 0.96

01:07:35.000 Iran is the country that destabilizes the whole region, you know? 0.61

01:07:40.000 Like the Saudis in Iran, you know, whether it be because of the Shia Sunni issue or whatever, they all really have a problem with Iran because Iran is the, you know, they're the ones that are funding the Houthis, and the Houthis were fighting. 0.94

01:07:56.000 They were fighting Saudi Arabia.

01:07:57.000 Iran's funding Hezbollah and Hamas.

01:08:00.000 Iran has been doing all sorts of, taking all sorts of actions to fund terrorist organizations or militias that cause, that just wreak havoc throughout the whole region. 0.76

01:08:09.000 I don't know why I'm thinking about Turkey. 0.54

01:08:11.000 And it's not this story.

01:08:13.000 There is another story. 0.69

01:08:14.000 I'm thinking about like American dominance in the region and how Trump's over there removing sanctions from the Turks because the Russians, in order to get through the Black Sea, now that they have Crimea and they have Sebastopol, they need to go through Turkey, they need to go through Istanbul. 0.68

01:08:27.000 That Constantinople, they need to get through through the Bosphorus Strait.

01:08:30.000 So, Turkey's in NATO, so America wants to strengthen its ties with Turkey so that they don't change their ties with Russia. 0.61

01:08:37.000 And then, because Netanyahu's like, that's a bad idea.

01:08:40.000 Trump's talking about giving like F 35s or some jet to the Turks.

01:08:43.000 And Netanyahu's like, I wouldn't do that.

01:08:44.000 That will change the power balance in the region.

01:08:46.000 We shouldn't do that.

01:08:47.000 We should.

01:08:48.000 I don't care what Netanyahu has to say about it. 0.77

01:08:49.000 I generally don't, but I think the reason we're in this war with Iran is because of what Netanyahu said about it. 0.79

01:08:54.000 So, I think that it has to do with.

01:08:56.000 It has a lot more diagonal issues.

01:08:58.000 I think it's far more broad.

01:08:59.000 I think that it has to do with.

01:09:00.000 Well, there's way more than.

01:09:01.000 Sorry, keep going.

01:09:02.000 Well, it's all up.

01:09:03.000 Like, I wrote a piece on my Patreon a couple, well, actually, the day, yeah, a little bit.

01:09:08.000 The day after, wait, I can read too.

01:09:10.000 Voice to Tyson.

01:09:12.000 Yeah, the day that the strikes happened, I started to write, I wrote a piece that was talking about, you know, it's really about China and about trying to, you know, change the geopolitical situation.

01:09:25.000 With the Belt and Road Initiative.

01:09:27.000 Yeah, regarding China.

01:09:28.000 You know, that's what Venezuela was largely about.

01:09:31.000 That's what the argument over the.

01:09:35.000 The what's it called?

01:09:36.000 The Panama Canal was about because China was taking trying to basically control both ends of the Panama Canal, and the US is like, We built it, you're not going to control it.

01:09:44.000 The US built it, we lost a bunch of lives putting that there.

01:09:47.000 You know, this is something that the US is going to be able to control because we want to make sure that the whole world can use it.

01:09:52.000 We're not going to make we're not going to allow China to decide who can and cannot use the Panama Canal.

01:09:57.000 I think that's why the US is putting the screws on Cuba because Cuba is basically in the gateway to the Gulf of America.

01:10:07.000 All of this stuff, there's even the Strait of Malacca where the U.S. is making moves.

01:10:11.000 They're not really all that.

01:10:12.000 It's not really.

01:10:13.000 That word's funny. 1.00

01:10:14.000 Malacca.

01:10:14.000 What?

01:10:15.000 You know what I mean?

01:10:16.000 Yeah, I do.

01:10:18.000 But it's not something that makes a lot of news, but the U.S. is making moves around the Strait of Malacca as well because that's one of the choke points.

01:10:24.000 We have more influence over that than China as well.

01:10:27.000 Yeah.

01:10:27.000 So that's why they call it the, what's the phrase?

01:10:29.000 The Malacca trap.

01:10:30.000 Yeah.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:31.000 So if you're pushed back on that and that's your only option for shipping, that's a big problem.

01:10:37.000 And that's this whole thing.

01:10:37.000 Yeah.

01:10:39.000 This whole thing with Iran, like, I do think that obviously it benefits Israel, but I don't think that the decision to deal with Iran is because of Israel.

01:10:50.000 I think that it fits into a greater picture.

01:10:53.000 Just like the stuff with Greenland, you know, the U.S. needing to take Greenland.

01:10:58.000 That's because the U.S. is trying to realign global power.

01:11:02.000 If you've got the ice caps melting and Russia has a port that's, you know, open year round because the ice has kind of receded.

01:11:09.000 Then you're going to have to, you want to have US forces that can monitor what they're doing.

01:11:14.000 People act like the Greenland situation is something new to Trump.

01:11:18.000 Yeah.

01:11:18.000 Totally not.

01:11:19.000 Actually, I think the first time the United States tried to go after Greenland was in the 1800s.

01:11:24.000 What was it?

01:11:25.000 Secretary William Seward, I believe, is his name.

01:11:30.000 And it's when we were purchasing Alaska, they also tried to get Greenland.

01:11:34.000 And at the time, it was looked at as this like, wow, what a waste of money. 1.00

01:11:37.000 What a stupid idea. 1.00

01:11:38.000 It ended up being genius, by the way, for sure. 1.00

01:11:40.000 I mean, as we know.

01:11:42.000 And then what?

01:11:43.000 Harry S. Truman also tried to get Greenland.

01:11:46.000 So these are not like new things.

01:11:47.000 There's tons of benefits to.

01:11:49.000 Controlling the entire region around our country.

01:11:52.000 Whether it be, well, now, data centers, I guess you could make the argument for the cool temperature, but a lot of it has to do with obviously defense and a lot more.

01:12:01.000 Yeah.

01:12:01.000 And it's a zero sum game who controls the land.

01:12:04.000 It's either us or them.

01:12:05.000 So that's the way military men will think about it.

01:12:07.000 It's like if you don't secure it, someone else will.

01:12:09.000 Look, we took.

01:12:10.000 Nobody's creating massive islands yet, like the size of. 1.00

01:12:13.000 The Chinese are trying. 0.76

01:12:14.000 They're working on it. 1.00

01:12:15.000 They're building islands.

01:12:16.000 Yeah, we haven't seen that.

01:12:17.000 Not on the same scale, but we aren't.

01:12:18.000 Not yet.

01:12:20.000 With the stuff with Greenland, I mean, the U.S. took stewardship of Greenland when.

01:12:23.000 You know, when Denmark was invaded by the Nazis, you know, like during World War II, the last thing that we want is to have, you know, for sure, have the Nazis, you know, go over to Greenland because, well, that was, you know, Danish territory, you know.

01:12:38.000 So it's not that ridiculous to think the U.S. for the U.S. to say, look, this is actually important to us strategically.

01:12:45.000 Denmark can sit there and say, well, that's our territory, et cetera.

01:12:48.000 But look, when this was actually in the news, we talked about how much it would cost to pay everybody in Greenland, and it wasn't a lot of money.

01:12:56.000 I think it's a population of about, like, 60,000 people.

01:13:00.000 You could make them all millionaires or give them five million bucks a piece, and you're not talking about a significant expense when you take into account the national security benefits that it could.

01:13:10.000 But, anyways, back to.

01:13:11.000 Make them millionaires and then build a Bass Pro Shops right in the center. 1.00

01:13:14.000 There you go. 0.99

01:13:15.000 And make it a pyramid.

01:13:16.000 Just like the one in Nashville.

01:13:16.000 That's right.

01:13:18.000 But, yeah, this stuff with Iran fits into a broader picture.

01:13:23.000 I mean, I know that there are people out there that think everything is because of Israel if it happens in the Middle East, but it's largely not.

01:13:29.000 It's because the U.S. Is looking to change the calculation when it comes to basically all of geopolitics.

01:13:35.000 Global shipping dominance and energy dominance.

01:13:38.000 Those are decent incentives.

01:13:39.000 At least incentives that the United States is not unfamiliar with.

01:13:44.000 Yeah, I was talking.

01:13:47.000 Thomas Massey introduced an amendment to the NDAA to take away the feature that says that we're going to merge our militaries, merge is a bit of a strong word, with the Israeli military.

01:13:58.000 There's a bunch of collusion that they're trying to legally bind American.

01:14:02.000 Military and the Israeli military, we're going to share secrets, share technology, share shipping lanes, or like part of our structural what do they call that?

01:14:12.000 The building process with Israel to build our processes together.

01:14:16.000 It's concerning. 1.00

01:14:17.000 Who put that in?

01:14:18.000 I don't know yet.

01:14:19.000 And that's a good idea.

01:14:20.000 Who wrote that into this that they want us to merge with Israel?

01:14:23.000 Isn't that because the U.S. is looking at the Five Eyes, Canada, UK, what is it?

01:14:30.000 New Zealand, Australia?

01:14:31.000 Was it exclusively Israel? 0.99

01:14:33.000 I think so.

01:14:34.000 And I think part of the reason is because they're looking at the Five Eyes as less reliable when it comes to sharing intelligence and stuff.

01:14:41.000 So I'm not saying that that's a good idea, but I think that the point is you look at the changing basically populations in the UK and stuff, and the US has said, well, look, we can't really guarantee that in 25 or 50 years that we're going to have the same relationship with these countries because they're having such significant changes of their population.

01:15:05.000 And so we need to make sure that we have the ability to share intelligence and stuff with other countries.

01:15:12.000 And again, I'm not saying that it's a good idea to do it with this.

01:15:15.000 You're just explaining.

01:15:15.000 No, I didn't.

01:15:16.000 I'm just trying to do it. 1.00

01:15:17.000 We should be doing that with Japan. 0.97

01:15:18.000 I would probably ask very few questions about that. 0.79

01:15:20.000 I completely agree.

01:15:21.000 Completely agree.

01:15:22.000 Japan is our greatest ally.

01:15:24.000 People say Israel is our greatest ally.

01:15:25.000 It's not Israel, Japan.

01:15:27.000 Particularly when you think about how close to China Japan is. 0.69

01:15:30.000 You see fireworks shows?

01:15:30.000 Obviously, it's right there.

01:15:31.000 They're huge.

01:15:32.000 They love them there.

01:15:33.000 I'm telling you, we could make the Middle East our friends just like we did with Japan.

01:15:38.000 I'm just saying. 0.99

01:15:40.000 I disagree because I think the population is just a yearly thing different.

01:15:44.000 You think they're yearning for a friendship with us?

01:15:47.000 You know, really, one of the things, look at.

01:15:49.000 What are we not missing from what I said? 0.56

01:15:51.000 Nuclear bombs.

01:15:52.000 We don't need to use nuclear bombs.

01:15:53.000 I'm just saying it would eliminate a lot of problems.

01:15:55.000 It could go back and be around.

01:15:58.000 No, I don't.

01:15:59.000 Yeah, no.

01:15:59.000 We don't need to initiate a nuclear war.

01:16:02.000 That being said, look, part of the reason why today we have such, if I understand correctly, some of the stuff that I was reading on X over the weekend, part of the reason why we have such a close relationship with Japan now is because of the way that the U.S. responded in 2011 after the earthquake.

01:16:18.000 Fukushima.

01:16:18.000 The big one.

01:16:19.000 Yeah, I was there.

01:16:20.000 Like, I was in Tokyo when it happened, and it was.

01:16:22.000 It was crazy.

01:16:23.000 They also crafted their constitution.

01:16:24.000 So, like, yeah, but we've done a good job.

01:16:27.000 We conquered the country.

01:16:29.000 Let me get this out.

01:16:30.000 Let me talk about it.

01:16:31.000 There was the general consensus from the Japanese government in like 2008, 9, 10.

01:16:39.000 They weren't particularly friendly to the United States.

01:16:40.000 They were actually, there was some tension there.

01:16:43.000 And then after the earthquake, the U.S. sent a bunch of aid, and we had Americans over there because we had people, we had military on Okinawa and stuff, and we jumped in to help.

01:16:54.000 And we were doing a lot to really kind of help Japan.

01:16:57.000 Deal with what was a massive, massive problem for them.

01:17:00.000 A lot of people died.

01:17:01.000 I think it was 20,000 people died in Sendai alone, never mind across the whole country.

01:17:06.000 So after that, if you took a set, they took a poll of like Japanese people, and the approval of the United States was something like 85 or something like that.

01:17:15.000 85% of the people loved the United States.

01:17:17.000 And so since then, the relationships with the US has actually gotten significantly better.

01:17:22.000 So, like, looking at Japan as like an ally, particularly when you consider.

01:17:27.000 Should something happen with Taiwan and we want to go ahead and make some kind of military move, we're going to need Japan.

01:17:33.000 Japan is a great way for us to keep an eye on, you know, have intelligence about what's going on in China. 0.83

01:17:40.000 And I mean, that's kind of what people think Israel is, right?

01:17:43.000 So it's a way that the U.S. can kind of have a country that'll actually monitor the Middle East. 0.53

01:17:48.000 Right now, you've got a problem with Iran, but in the future, China's going to be a significantly larger problem.

01:17:53.000 And Japan is uniquely positioned to help the United States monitor what's going on in China.

01:17:59.000 I've got some information.

01:18:00.000 Really interesting point about the assist.

01:18:01.000 Yeah, it was a big deal.

01:18:03.000 It was just after helping with aid after the Honorable Japanese tsunami, right?

01:18:07.000 Yeah, it was an earthquake.

01:18:08.000 It was a 9.0 earthquake, one of the largest earthquakes.

01:18:10.000 It led to a horde of tsunamis, yeah.

01:18:12.000 And there was a tsunami that basically wiped out basically all of Sendai.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, interesting.

01:18:17.000 All that cadmium went into the ocean.

01:18:18.000 I think it's cadmium.

01:18:19.000 It's the heavy metal in the nuclear corium reactors.

01:18:23.000 It just got flushed in it.

01:18:24.000 You can see it flowing through the Atlantic.

01:18:26.000 Well, I remember it.

01:18:27.000 I just was unaware of the polling after following.

01:18:30.000 Yeah, it was a big deal.

01:18:31.000 Not just mending or fixing any relationship, but just making explode. 0.93

01:18:35.000 Yeah, like the the, the approval of the United States by the Japanese citizen. 0.86

01:18:39.000 Afterwards it was.

01:18:40.000 It was a big deal because we really did.

01:18:43.000 You know, especially from the at least the way I understand it, the way that I was reading it on on a lot of expos is there was there were people that they kind of thought, you know, because of the tension between the Japanese government and the United States.

01:18:55.000 They were like, well, you know, the Japanese government had just insulted the U.S. a bunch and kind of, you know, they were talking about there used to be people talking about like Okinawa as being like it's a bad thing that the military is there.

01:19:05.000 The Marine Corps has the third Marine Division over there and it's bad and we shouldn't have that and Japan shouldn't be a client state of the United States.

01:19:13.000 et cetera, et Cetera.

01:19:14.000 But once that happened, the U.S. was uniquely positioned to send aid and to send help and to send people there to literally help dig up bodies and stuff.

01:19:24.000 And the U.S. did. 0.75

01:19:26.000 And the Japanese were kind of like, look, we kind of just treated these guys really bad for a lot of years. 1.00

01:19:30.000 And they didn't ask for anything.

01:19:32.000 They just kind of jumped up and started helping and helping our people.

01:19:36.000 And so that really changed the opinion of the general consensus of the Japanese people about Americans.

01:19:43.000 And it's been kind of something that we've seen grow.

01:19:45.000 I mean, it was 2016, 17, 18.

01:19:48.000 That's when we saw Shinzo Abe and Donald Trump kind of hanging out and being friendly towards each other.

01:19:53.000 That was a great relationship right there.

01:19:55.000 Yeah, that relationship's only grown.

01:19:57.000 And it's another thing that I wrote about on my Patreon the U.S. and Japanese relationship and why the Japanese and the U.S. actually have a lot in common, even though our cultures are very different.

01:20:09.000 The way that we approach our cultures and the value that we have in our culture, the value that we place on our cultures, like it's very similar.

01:20:17.000 And the U.S. doesn't want to see Japan change, right? 0.67

01:20:19.000 Like the U.S. wants Japan to be Japan.

01:20:22.000 It seems that the Japanese appreciate that. 0.90

01:20:24.000 But anyway, I want to talk about Israel, unfortunately, but I want to also say something about Japan because the Ronin, the wandering samurai, is like kind of like the lone gunslinger.

01:20:31.000 Like there's very similar, like heroic archetypes in the American and the Japanese mythos.

01:20:36.000 But to answer your question from earlier, James, about who drafted that bill, they're calling it the Israel merge.

01:20:43.000 It's colloquial, known around Congress like that.

01:20:45.000 It's section 224, renumbered section 219.

01:20:48.000 Of what?

01:20:49.000 In the FY 2027 NDAA, titled the United States Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative, advanced by.

01:20:56.000 The House Armed Service Committee, chaired by Representative Mike Rogers from Alabama, and bipartisan support.

01:21:05.000 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has publicly claimed credit for proposing the idea.

01:21:11.000 And the initiative is strongly backed by AIPAC.

01:21:13.000 This is from AI sponsored.

01:21:15.000 You have to remember a lot of these Southern evangelicals, they really, really believe that Israel is our greatest ally and we need to be doing everything we can.

01:21:26.000 For them.

01:21:27.000 I've seen it up close.

01:21:28.000 I mean, they really believe that with all their heart.

01:21:31.000 The thing about the difference between Japan and Israel, because I agree Japan's an excellent alliance, is that we conquered Japan and then dominated them and rebuilt them with our own constitution. 0.52

01:21:43.000 Israel's like its own thing, nuclear armed, allegedly. 0.79

01:21:46.000 I don't even know if they, obviously. 0.70

01:21:48.000 So it's a different animal.

01:21:49.000 Like, that's not, you can't really control that thing.

01:21:53.000 They got their own.

01:21:54.000 So I don't know.

01:21:55.000 It's tough to. 1.00

01:21:56.000 So every time I think about Iran, I think about the whole moving. 1.00

01:21:59.000 Puzzle like everything's moving at once. 0.93

01:22:01.000 There's Israel moving and the United States, it's all a problem. 0.51

01:22:04.000 Israel's a problem, Turkey's a problem, um, Iran's a problem, and Pakistan's a problem. 0.99

01:22:11.000 It's the whole place is a problem. 0.99

01:22:13.000 Turkey's an immense issue because they hold the keys, they hold Russia's keys.

01:22:18.000 Yeah, Turkey, Turkey is they they have to ally with Russia because they're going to be their main shipping port, and they can't ally too closely because they are in NATO.

01:22:26.000 I know it like this puts them in an immensely powerful position, Turkey.

01:22:31.000 To negotiate to the right or to the left, to the east or to the west, to the Russians or to the Americans.

01:22:36.000 They could leave NATO.

01:22:37.000 They could leave NATO, which would.

01:22:39.000 I wouldn't mind. 0.87

01:22:40.000 Israel would flip their. 1.00

01:22:41.000 The Israelis would flip their. 0.99

01:22:42.000 Netanyahu would probably flip his freaking. 0.91

01:22:43.000 Israel's not in NATO. 0.76

01:22:44.000 Because America's just about to give jet fighters to Turks.

01:22:47.000 So if they leave NATO right after that, you'd be like, what in the. 0.97

01:22:51.000 We just gave them weapons.

01:22:52.000 Yeah, they left their jet fighters.

01:22:53.000 I think I had switches.

01:22:54.000 Yeah, I was just going to say, turning into a boat angle.

01:22:57.000 The F 35 is a very advanced plane, and I think the U.S. could probably just turn them off if they wanted to.

01:23:02.000 Oh, 100%.

01:23:03.000 Oh, I like that idea.

01:23:05.000 You've got a plane, but you don't get.

01:23:07.000 They're more likely.

01:23:08.000 They'll be able to fly them, but they wouldn't get any of the advanced aeronautics.

01:23:11.000 They wouldn't get any of the radar systems.

01:23:13.000 That's usually what the U.S. does.

01:23:14.000 When they sell planes to other countries, they'll sell the plane, they'll sell the airframe, but they don't get the state of the art electronic suite.

01:23:23.000 They don't get the state of the art radar.

01:23:25.000 They don't get the state of the art networking capacity.

01:23:28.000 And one of the things about an F 35 is it's not just a capable airplane that you can use as an attack plane, but it's kind of like they turned it into a node to communicate with the other planes and people on the ground.

01:23:40.000 It's more like a networking system that they have.

01:23:43.000 Like a flying mesh network?

01:23:44.000 Yeah, kind of like that.

01:23:45.000 So the U.S.

01:23:47.000 And I don't, not that I have any kind of, you know, inside information.

01:23:50.000 I don't know, you know, I don't have any kind of specific info about that.

01:23:54.000 That's exactly what you would say if you did, though.

01:23:56.000 But yeah, like the U.S. I mean, the U.S. is, even when it came to like selling F 16s back in the day, like they would sell the F 16s to a bunch of different countries.

01:24:04.000 There are a bunch of countries that have F 16s, but they don't, they didn't sell them with the advanced targeting packaging.

01:24:10.000 They wouldn't sell it with the advanced radar.

01:24:11.000 They would sell the airframe and they would sell some of the stuff, but they wouldn't give them the state of the art stuff because the U.S. I'm bored.

01:24:18.000 This is awful.

01:24:19.000 Nobody cares anymore. 1.00

01:24:20.000 You don't like the Israeli, Iranian. 1.00

01:24:21.000 Nobody cares. 1.00

01:24:22.000 There's nothing to complete with this.

01:24:23.000 Everybody's sick of it.

01:24:24.000 Everybody's so sick of it. 1.00

01:24:26.000 It's been three years since October 7th of this region, Israel. 1.00

01:24:30.000 We're not even talking about it.

01:24:31.000 I know, but we are.

01:24:31.000 We're talking about the whole thing.

01:24:33.000 They want you to get bored with it.

01:24:34.000 It's annoying.

01:24:36.000 What do you want to talk about, Lisa?

01:24:38.000 Find something else to talk about.

01:24:40.000 If you get bored with it, then they win.

01:24:42.000 Then they can pull out their plans in secret. 1.00

01:24:44.000 We've got the complaining woman over here. 1.00

01:24:46.000 We're going to jump to this story here. 0.98

01:24:47.000 We're talking about it.

01:24:48.000 Senate Republican leaders say that they've spoken to Mitch McConnell as he remains hospitalized.

01:24:48.000 Was kind of boring.

01:24:53.000 The rumor going around is that Mitch McConnell is actually brain dead.

01:24:56.000 And then so a bunch of people have said, no, I spoke to Mitch McConnell.

01:25:00.000 I reached out to people on the Hill the other day when it was going around that he was dead.

01:25:04.000 And again, and they said they were hearing the same thing.

01:25:08.000 And they have heard the people, at least that I still talk to on the Hill, which is a lot of them, say that, yeah, he has been non responsive for a while.

01:25:16.000 Now, I don't know how true that is.

01:25:18.000 And now people are saying that they have spoken to him, but.

01:25:21.000 I think it's really weird that his wife went away while he's in this condition.

01:25:24.000 I think that's a little bizarre.

01:25:27.000 From ABC News, Senate Republican leaders say they've spoken to Mitch McConnell as he remains hospitalized.

01:25:33.000 Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell has had phone conversations with several Republican leaders as he remains hospitalized, spokespeople for the lawmakers told ABC News on Tuesday.

01:25:42.000 A spokesperson for McConnell first confirmed the senator had been hospitalized on June 14th for an unknown condition.

01:25:47.000 His office has not provided many updates, though they say McConnell is continuing his recovery in the hospital.

01:25:52.000 Senator McConnell appreciates the outpouring of support he's receiving.

01:25:56.000 I'm actually kind of dubious about that.

01:25:58.000 He's receiving while he continues his recovery in the hospital.

01:26:01.000 He should have resigned.

01:26:03.000 A McConnell spokesperson said in a statement first issued last week that ABC News has told continues to stand Tuesday.

01:26:09.000 The senator continues to improve and he is working closely with his staff on Kentucky and Senate matters while the Senate is out of session.

01:26:16.000 He probably should have retired years ago as soon as he started doing the whole like, where he just like stopped.

01:26:23.000 Like someone hit the pause button on him, like in front of cameras, you know?

01:26:26.000 It's pretty blackpilling for a lot of Americans that see that stuff, too.

01:26:29.000 Yeah.

01:26:30.000 They're just like, what are we doing?

01:26:31.000 Like, no Republicans are defending that either.

01:26:33.000 No, no.

01:26:34.000 I mean, look at it.

01:26:35.000 No, they are.

01:26:35.000 They're lying for him.

01:26:36.000 There's a couple, there are people that are saying that they've spoken to his office and they're recovering for him.

01:26:40.000 I'm sorry.

01:26:41.000 I'm recovering for him.

01:26:41.000 I more of mean, like, people that vote Republican.

01:26:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:45.000 Like, nobody's saying that and they're thrilled about it, you know?

01:26:48.000 I have no idea why.

01:26:48.000 It's so over the top.

01:26:50.000 I don't know why anybody isn't saying you need to step down right now.

01:26:54.000 I don't know either.

01:26:55.000 Well, I mean, actually, you know DC better than most.

01:26:58.000 You know exactly why.

01:27:02.000 I don't.

01:27:03.000 Really?

01:27:03.000 I would imagine it's because people in a circle are still getting rich.

01:27:06.000 They're still getting paid.

01:27:07.000 He's a very good fundraiser.

01:27:08.000 Yeah.

01:27:08.000 I mean, and look, I'm going to, everyone's going to be like, everyone's going to be like, you know, he's the turtle and he's terrible and blah, blah, blah.

01:27:14.000 And I can't, I know that I'm going to take heat for this, but remember, the reason we have the Supreme Court that we have is because Mitch McConnell knew how to prevent Merrick Garland from getting appointed, right?

01:27:24.000 Like, you have these people.

01:27:26.000 I thought Amy was going to be good. 0.99

01:27:27.000 What?

01:27:28.000 Yeah, like two weeks ago, that argument would have been salient, but now.

01:27:30.000 No, well, I mean, but the point I'm making is.

01:27:32.000 Amy's going to be barrett.

01:27:33.000 No, if you're going to talk about, if you're going to talk about, you know, why do these people stay in office and, you know, what's the benefit of having, People that have been there years and years and years, they know how the Senate rules work.

01:27:45.000 They know how the government works.

01:27:47.000 They have the insight to be like, yo, we have this option because no one cares about how the sausage is made, but the Senate has a bunch of rules that they have to have, you know, that you have to abide by.

01:27:58.000 And it's not just as easy as, oh, well, the senator says that he wants to vote for this or doesn't want to vote for that.

01:28:03.000 It's chess and he's a chess master.

01:28:04.000 Yeah.

01:28:04.000 And so I agree.

01:28:05.000 We should be.

01:28:06.000 But I'm saying that's what I don't get anymore.

01:28:07.000 He was a chess master, but he hasn't been coherent for a very long time.

01:28:11.000 Exactly.

01:28:11.000 I mean, look, the Garland stuff was over 10 years ago.

01:28:15.000 He should have been out.

01:28:16.000 So, the point that I'm making is I do think that it's a good idea.

01:28:19.000 I forget who it was that was talking about it, but like 80 should be the line, right?

01:28:23.000 Like, if you're a senator and you're 75, you can't run again.

01:28:28.000 Correct.

01:28:28.000 You know, because you'll be 81 when you get out.

01:28:31.000 I think so.

01:28:31.000 If you're 74, you can run.

01:28:33.000 You get out at 80 because senators do six year terms, right?

01:28:36.000 And senators are six year terms.

01:28:36.000 What?

01:28:37.000 Yes.

01:28:38.000 So you can keep running until you hit 74.

01:28:41.000 74 is the last time you can run.

01:28:43.000 If you're 75, you can't run anymore.

01:28:45.000 So that way, by the time you hit 80, you're gone.

01:28:48.000 At least term limits, if that's not that.

01:28:50.000 But the problem with that is, I brought this up as a counterpoint to Rolo last night.

01:28:53.000 You don't like term limits, though.

01:28:54.000 No, I don't like term limits.

01:28:54.000 You don't like them?

01:28:55.000 No, because.

01:28:56.000 It's no beast.

01:28:56.000 You'll never have any, like, you'll get a bunch of people that are just learning the game.

01:29:00.000 Yeah, we were just talking about it being chess. 1.00

01:29:02.000 Everyone's just an idiot and doesn't know how to work this. 1.00

01:29:04.000 But I think one of Trump's appeals was that he didn't know the game. 1.00

01:29:07.000 He just came in and did what he wanted.

01:29:08.000 And look at what happens.

01:29:09.000 It's way more complicated than that.

01:29:10.000 And what happens is because the House is on a two year cycle, right?

01:29:13.000 The first year they are trying to do policy and learning things, and okay.

01:29:17.000 And then the second year they're campaigning, and that is.

01:29:19.000 All of them.

01:29:20.000 If anything, I would increase.

01:29:22.000 If I were going to do anything, I would increase.

01:29:24.000 And here's the other thing I'm sorry, I'm jumping ahead in my own head.

01:29:27.000 I would increase from two years to four years so that they're not in that constant, almost campaign dialing for dollars.

01:29:35.000 That's one part.

01:29:36.000 However, then you get somebody good.

01:29:37.000 Say you get somebody really good that you like and they're doing everything right.

01:29:41.000 And then Apex puts $30 million against them and he can vote it out or something like that.

01:29:45.000 That'd be crazy.

01:29:46.000 Right.

01:29:46.000 And so I'm at term limits.

01:29:47.000 Well, I'm just saying term limits.

01:29:48.000 And so say you, you know, Your time's up, you just go and then, and then, A, Pack appoints somebody, right?

01:29:53.000 Like, you don't want it to be constant turnover, especially if you have good stuff going on.

01:29:58.000 There's a learning curve, there's a staff curve.

01:29:58.000 I love it.

01:30:00.000 You don't want a lot of that turnover.

01:30:01.000 The worst thing about Thomas Massey not having his seat is he'd been there for seven terms and he really knows how DC works.

01:30:08.000 Well, even more, it was that he was just, he was good.

01:30:11.000 Because a lot of those people know how it works, but they're not good at it.

01:30:14.000 You have to make relationships.

01:30:15.000 I mean, as much as I like Massey, Massey did good things, but nobody wanted to work with Massey.

01:30:15.000 He wasn't really good.

01:30:20.000 That's another problem that people don't really understand there.

01:30:23.000 Like, I remember when some bill was going around.

01:30:26.000 It was a good bill.

01:30:27.000 And I was working there and we're trying to suggest bills to my boss and stuff.

01:30:30.000 And I think it was Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:30:32.000 Another one was Madison Cawthorn.

01:30:34.000 And at that time, they were person non gratis.

01:30:38.000 And they were like, no, we like the bill, but we don't want our name associated with them and wouldn't sign on to the bill, wouldn't co sponsor it, wouldn't do anything with it.

01:30:45.000 And so if you're down there and you're making enemies or you're brand new and you don't know the people and know the ropes and know who to talk to, you're not going to get anything done.

01:30:52.000 So it sounds like it's a popularity click.

01:30:54.000 Oh, well, I think it would smash that up.

01:30:57.000 Everything is networking.

01:30:59.000 You have to have people that you know and are friendly with to get anything done.

01:31:04.000 And that's not just in politics, that's in anywhere.

01:31:06.000 A big part of the reason why All That Remains managed to get signed is because I knew people from when I was in Shadows Fall, right?

01:31:12.000 Like, we were getting good shows, we were getting good tours, we were getting on shows and stuff, and I made friends in the local industry.

01:31:20.000 And so, like, when All That Remains started, Scott Lee was a promoter and a manager that had managed Shadows Fall, and he took All That Remains on because I knew him.

01:31:29.000 And if it wasn't for Scott Lee, All That Remains wouldn't have been able to really get off the ground in Western Mass, and he really helped us a lot.

01:31:34.000 So it is like who you know.

01:31:37.000 Really does matter.

01:31:38.000 So, you don't want to actually go out of your way to make enemies, whether it be DC or in the business world.

01:31:43.000 Like, you do want to, the best situation is being able to tell everybody yes all the time.

01:31:49.000 Now, you can't do that.

01:31:50.000 It's also how it works, too.

01:31:51.000 And I'm not just talking about like they're not working in the things like that, but like how to pass legislation, how to call ledge council to actually get the proper formatting of the wording of the bill.

01:31:59.000 Like, there's lots of regular infrastructure that you, it takes you two years to get acclimated to.

01:32:04.000 You need to even learn the building.

01:32:05.000 You're not going to learn the buildings and how to even get around in the first six months.

01:32:08.000 So, there is a lot of, You don't want constant turnover because nothing will be getting done.

01:32:13.000 It will be total chaos.

01:32:15.000 I definitely think that, I mean, there's so many things that you need to know structurally, even how the committees work.

01:32:23.000 Here's the thing that people don't understand too our government is so gigantic, it's so big, right?

01:32:28.000 And these members of Congress are voting on thousands of bills a year, right?

01:32:34.000 There shouldn't even be that many, but there's thousands.

01:32:34.000 Thousands.

01:32:36.000 And they can't be a policy expert on every single one that's coming through.

01:32:39.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:40.000 If there's one that's, um, You know, he came from an agriculture background or another one that came from a medical background or a lawyer background.

01:32:46.000 He's not going to be, you know, up to date on the next robot technology and what those limitations are or what rules and regulations should be there.

01:32:55.000 So, you know, you have a ton of staff and you have to go in there and learn all of that, learn the right people to pick, to hire, to work with you underneath you, to explain those bills and trust them and research and do all the research.

01:33:08.000 There's way more into it than just going, like, yeah, I'm going to go in here and vote a certain way that I think my constituents like.

01:33:14.000 You really have to understand these things and get the right people around you to make that happen.

01:33:18.000 So, doing that every couple years, term limits, I could say you could do term limits maybe after 15 years and stagger them or something, but it has to be really like.

01:33:29.000 It can't be four years.

01:33:29.000 It can't be like Congress right now every two years and you can only have six.

01:33:34.000 Like, what percent?

01:33:35.000 That would be a horrible way to do it.

01:33:36.000 Well, nobody would ever even know who their congressman would be.

01:33:39.000 Yeah, term limits must be your direct voice in government.

01:33:41.000 Everybody likes to talk about term limits like they would solve a lot of problems, and I just don't think that it does.

01:33:45.000 Well, they thought getting rid of earmarks would solve.

01:33:47.000 Problems and it did nothing but deadlock the government.

01:33:49.000 And then there was no bartering and it isolated people, it polarized people because you couldn't say, like, okay, I need this vote on this bill, but all right, we'll make sure that your constituents get the money for that bridge you really need built there for that infrastructure.

01:34:01.000 And so there was no horse trading anymore and there was no bargaining.

01:34:04.000 So at first, our politics is being able to say yes to things that don't really have a bad effect on you so that way you can get someone else to say yes to something you really want.

01:34:14.000 Right, exactly.

01:34:14.000 And so the same thing with earmarks.

01:34:16.000 So people push these things like earmarks and term limits and all that.

01:34:20.000 Whatever, because it sounds good.

01:34:21.000 And I go, yeah, I don't want to eat it.

01:34:23.000 And this is why.

01:34:24.000 And this is why everyone shouldn't be allowed to vote.

01:34:26.000 Another thing that sounds good is getting rid of omnibus bills, which is something that Gates and I would talk about quite a bit.

01:34:31.000 Yeah, getting rid of omnibus bills are actually.

01:34:33.000 That's where earmarks find a place, is in omnibus spending.

01:34:36.000 And that's where a lot of, like, if you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, is in omnibus spending.

01:34:40.000 So without that, but then they'd actually literally have to read a thousand bills a week or whatever.

01:34:46.000 Or, I mean, technically, they're supposed to read the omnibus as well, which is like a thousand pages they get and it's supposed to read it in a night.

01:34:50.000 Yeah, I'm not a big fan of omnibuses.

01:34:52.000 There's a way to break those up into separate bills.

01:34:54.000 What ethically, what amount of time spent in Congress should be spent campaigning for your next seat?

01:35:02.000 The problem with the campaigning is that, you know, it's actually probably might even get a little better though, because TV spots and radio spots cost a lot of money, right?

01:35:10.000 More TV than TV, the prices are whatever, but they're extraordinary.

01:35:16.000 However, you're not really, that's not the medium anymore.

01:35:20.000 You can go on podcasts for free, right?

01:35:22.000 You can go on Twitter for free.

01:35:24.000 You can do Twitter space.

01:35:25.000 So there is some shift there happening.

01:35:28.000 They still do traditional mail, which is when you're campaigning, which costs a lot of money, mail pieces.

01:35:33.000 We would send out apparently that's extremely effective, though.

01:35:36.000 It's super annoying.

01:35:37.000 I've never looked at a piece of mail from a politician.

01:35:40.000 Apparently, yeah, apparently, it's the wrong way.

01:35:42.000 Yeah, I'm telling you, it's super annoying.

01:35:44.000 You can get a whole staffer to read more bills for the price of one mail distribution that you do.

01:35:49.000 Really, yes.

01:35:50.000 I think I've spent on one of our mailers, we spent 70,000, another one, and I think it only targeted that one, like maybe I think it was like 75 to 100,000 people, and we're spending 70,000 on it.

01:36:01.000 It's really a lot.

01:36:03.000 Um, But there's different ways.

01:36:05.000 People are signing up for newsletters and there's different things.

01:36:08.000 The blackout period.

01:36:08.000 You have to do that.

01:36:09.000 You're not allowed to do that.

01:36:09.000 The texts are the worst thing in the world.

01:36:11.000 Well, that was big for a while, too.

01:36:11.000 The texts.

01:36:13.000 But they're the most effective right now.

01:36:15.000 You're seeing a lot of.

01:36:16.000 Text messages are effective.

01:36:17.000 The text messages had a better open rate and a better rate for your return, but they got expensive.

01:36:21.000 They started out at like 15 cents a text and think about how costly that could get quickly.

01:36:26.000 And now they're down about eight, I think, maybe a little less.

01:36:28.000 You can get them a little less, like eight cents a text.

01:36:31.000 But there has.

01:36:33.000 I think that's going to shift.

01:36:35.000 But my point is.

01:36:36.000 They're spending, they have to spend so much money to because money's coming in from PACs and different organizations, like, you know, like what we saw happen to Thomas Massey.

01:36:46.000 And to raise that much money, what could he focus on when he has to be constantly calling people and asking them, hey, are you going to donate or, you know, doing that fundraising?

01:36:55.000 So if we were to limit, like, okay, no TVNs could get better.

01:37:00.000 They could have less time campaigning.

01:37:02.000 But even doing a town hall, like if you do, we have telephone town halls that we do a lot, and that's about 25 to 30 grand a telephone town hall.

01:37:12.000 There's just a lot of that comes out of the MRA, though.

01:37:14.000 But, you know, that's why it's hard to beat an incumbent because they'll have things like telephone town halls, like in the MRA budget.

01:37:20.000 But if you don't, if you're not already in office, you can't use that to reach out to your constituents.

01:37:26.000 And then how do you get name ID, right?

01:37:28.000 Like, how do you get recognized if you're trying to beat an incumbent?

01:37:31.000 So there's tricky things that happen when it comes to money and politics and all that stuff.

01:37:36.000 What's MRA budget?

01:37:37.000 Like, so each office gets a certain amount of budget that they're allowed to spend on basically.

01:37:43.000 Operating.

01:37:44.000 You get to pay your staff out of the MRA.

01:37:46.000 You get to pay your mailers out of the MRA, telephone town halls, supplies, and anything you need.

01:37:51.000 And everybody gets like, you know, like a $5 million budget for the office or something.

01:37:55.000 Some of it's higher if you're in leadership or whatever.

01:37:57.000 But when you have that, you've got to be careful with that budget.

01:38:01.000 The thing is, is that incumbents have way more resources to reach their constituents.

01:38:07.000 They can do town halls.

01:38:08.000 They can, and they can use the MRA money to do that up until 90 days before the election.

01:38:12.000 That's called the blackout period.

01:38:13.000 They're not allowed to do it then.

01:38:15.000 But think about it.

01:38:16.000 You're, The people that are already in Congress are constantly making touches and getting their name recognized and showing what they did for constituent services and getting people's medals or passports fixed or whatever, all those things.

01:38:27.000 So they have more opportunities to reach constituents, get that name ID.

01:38:32.000 There's like congressmen that are in their 80s that have been there for 50 years.

01:38:36.000 Who's that?

01:38:36.000 There's one really old guy.

01:38:38.000 There's a lot of really old guys.

01:38:39.000 Really old, like for 50 years that have been in Congress for 50.

01:38:42.000 How long is Pelosi?

01:38:43.000 It's Pelosi's picture of her with John F. Kennedy when she's a young girl.

01:38:48.000 There's a lot of people that nobody's ever even seen or heard of that have been in the game for a long time, too.

01:38:48.000 A young woman.

01:38:53.000 Yeah, they used to, we used to call them like there's workhorses and showhorses.

01:38:57.000 And so the workhorses are the congressmen you don't know about, but they're helping their constituents and trying to pass bills, and the showhorses are the showhorses, and they're doing their show thing.

01:39:05.000 I would like to disincentivize these people to be cogs in a machine of just keep your mouth shut, sign the bill that the party wants you to sign that you probably didn't read, and your staff are signed off on, and just move on and raise money and get rich and maybe make a book.

01:39:05.000 It's a thing.

01:39:19.000 Like, God, we got to get away from that.

01:39:21.000 I don't think there's a solution.

01:39:22.000 Well, you could do it.

01:39:23.000 There is a solution.

01:39:24.000 I don't think there's a perfect way of, no, like to 100% reverse.

01:39:27.000 What, like get a king?

01:39:29.000 Yeah, get rid of it.

01:39:31.000 Listen, dissolve the government and have a monarchy, right?

01:39:33.000 Well, our government wasn't ever supposed to be this big, just kind of like the EU doesn't work, right?

01:39:38.000 Too many different interests.

01:39:39.000 We are twice the size.

01:39:41.000 I mean, maybe it's more than that.

01:39:42.000 I don't know the exact numbers, but like we have so many competing interests across every state in this country.

01:39:48.000 It's too big.

01:39:49.000 It is too cumbersome.

01:39:53.000 We aren't represented.

01:39:54.000 It should really go back to repeal the 17th. 0.97

01:39:59.000 Repeal the 17th.

01:40:02.000 amend the Commerce Clause and the Necessary and Proper Clause.

01:40:07.000 The 17th would help a lot.

01:40:08.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:40:10.000 Reinforce the 9th and 10th Amendments so that way the states have the ability to pass the.

01:40:19.000 The states have the incentive to pass the laws that they need to pass and get rid of them, you know, bring back Doge, but like times 10.

01:40:27.000 Well, Congress people used to have like regular jobs that were like everybody else that they're representing.

01:40:31.000 They kind of did it As, like, a side gig just to like volunteer almost.

01:40:35.000 Like, there were farmers and like everything, but now every single person is like a lawyer or someone who's never actually had a job, it seems like.

01:40:41.000 Well, the point is some people are just political.

01:40:43.000 Look at Bernie Sanders, political his whole life.

01:40:45.000 Like, that's all he's done.

01:40:47.000 The point that Lisa, I think, the point that I think Lisa's making is like the federal government is supposed to be significantly smaller and it's not supposed to be able to do all the things that it does.

01:40:55.000 That's why I brought up the necessary and proper in the Commerce Clause.

01:40:58.000 The Commerce Clause has been bastardized.

01:41:00.000 I forget the name of the Supreme Court case, but there is a case that was brought before the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court.

01:41:07.000 Found that the federal government had the authority to regulate growing wheat on your own property to give to your own cows because the thought, the logic was, or the argument that they accepted was if you decide that you're going to grow wheat on your own property, that is something that affects interstate commerce because you're not buying wheat that might have come from another state.

01:41:30.000 So, because of that, the government has the authority to regulate that.

01:41:34.000 And that's not at all what the commerce clause is supposed to be.

01:41:37.000 The commerce clause is.

01:41:38.000 Says that it, that the federal government has the authority to make regular the commerce between, in, between states.

01:41:44.000 Not that it has the ability to decide whether or not you're allowed to grow wheat on your own property.

01:41:51.000 That is a complete abortion.

01:41:53.000 Like that is a total abomination of what the Commerce Clause is. 0.99

01:41:56.000 Same thing with the Necessary and Proper Clause.

01:41:58.000 The Necessary and Proper Clause says that Congress has the, has the authority to pass laws that are necessary and proper.

01:42:03.000 That doesn't mean that the Congress has the, the, the authority to pass whatever law it wants.

01:42:08.000 To do whatever it wants.

01:42:10.000 It has the authority to pass laws that are actually necessary.

01:42:13.000 But the government has taken the Constitution and the limits that are put on the federal government and they have flipped it entirely on its head and they have said, okay, this actually empowers the government to do all these things.

01:42:25.000 It doesn't limit the federal government, it empowers the federal government.

01:42:27.000 And now you get this gigantic abomination that is DC.

01:42:31.000 I have a suggestion of how to solve some of this bureaucratic nightmare.

01:42:35.000 Let's hear it.

01:42:36.000 I called it a direct republic.

01:42:38.000 So, it's not a direct democracy.

01:42:40.000 I don't like mob rule.

01:42:41.000 But, like, what happens?

01:42:42.000 So, we've got, what, 435 representatives right now, 480 or something?

01:42:46.000 They each represent.

01:42:47.000 437, they represent roughly 750,000 people each.

01:42:47.000 437.

01:42:51.000 So, they go to Congress and it's their turn to vote.

01:42:53.000 They're going to vote yes or no.

01:42:55.000 Instead of that guy going to Congress, what if his 750,000 constituents vote yes or no?

01:42:59.000 No, it's a digital democracy.

01:43:01.000 No, no, it's still only going to your one district.

01:43:04.000 You wouldn't be voting for the other guys.

01:43:05.000 It's a direct democracy.

01:43:06.000 No, it's a direct republic because you're still getting your republic, your representative vote tallied, yes or no.

01:43:11.000 It would aggregate the 750,000 of you in your locale, go to some series of blockchains.

01:43:16.000 This is the problem.

01:43:17.000 This is what I was talking about before.

01:43:18.000 Do you really trust the general public to vote yes or no on, I don't know, say, You know, how to regulate Trey's Epitide.

01:43:29.000 I don't know.

01:43:30.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:30.000 When they don't know the ins and outs of the mechanics or how to regulate something that is completely above their pay grade.

01:43:39.000 No, what you really want is people that are local and specialized.

01:43:44.000 That's what you should have.

01:43:45.000 But the downside of that is when they get bribed.

01:43:47.000 If you have individuals with the weight of that responsibility on the shoulders of one. 1.00

01:43:51.000 You can bribe the morons voting every five seconds. 0.99

01:43:53.000 I think the aggregate would show much more intelligent because it's not a mob. 1.00

01:43:56.000 It's an organized.

01:43:57.000 Is the average IQ here only 100?

01:43:59.000 Like, is it that what it is?

01:44:00.000 It's reducing.

01:44:01.000 Yes, and it's reducing.

01:44:02.000 No, that's a bad idea.

01:44:03.000 I just think we should be representing ourselves.

01:44:05.000 Having these other people go there and failing is not working anymore.

01:44:08.000 I mean, you're just talking about direct democracy with extra steps.

01:44:11.000 No, no, it's definitely not direct democracy.

01:44:13.000 I don't like mob rule. 0.98

01:44:14.000 And your district is your district.

01:44:16.000 Only you guys in that district get to vote for what happens out of your district.

01:44:19.000 That's your representative force.

01:44:21.000 And then my district will vote its 750,000 yeses and noes aggregate to a tally of majority.

01:44:26.000 It's a 58% yes.

01:44:28.000 Therefore, our representative votes yes.

01:44:30.000 And then he doesn't even have to go to Washington.

01:44:32.000 We still vote for our rep. We still have the House of Representatives.

01:44:34.000 They just stay at home and vote like the rest of us.

01:44:38.000 But to Lisa's point, you can't expect the average person to understand what every bill that's being presented is.

01:44:45.000 I don't expect everybody to vote either.

01:44:47.000 I mean, it would probably be so not like 750,000 people.

01:44:50.000 I don't know how many of them would potentially vote on every bill.

01:44:53.000 80,000 people on every bill.

01:44:54.000 I don't know.

01:44:55.000 The problem there is the people that are going to be voting are the people that are motivated, not necessarily the people that are informed.

01:45:02.000 You're asking for more moving parts as well, which is perfect for fraud and all of that.

01:45:09.000 Are you saying, just to clarify, you're saying instead of having that representative make that vote, you're talking about everyone votes in that district?

01:45:15.000 Is that correct?

01:45:16.000 You send a newsletter home every week on the bills that are up.

01:45:18.000 You vote in a poll like we do on Twitter, yes or no, and then that's how the representative votes.

01:45:22.000 Yeah, I would say we go to a blockchain or a series of blockchains.

01:45:23.000 Yeah, I would say we go to a blockchain or a series of blockchains.

01:45:25.000 Worrying about one guy being bribed, what about a bunch of people being bribed?

01:45:31.000 What about people gathering ballots and going around town?

01:45:33.000 What about activist groups like.

01:45:34.000 You know, using intimidation to prevent voting.

01:45:37.000 I mean, you're asking for a far more complex system than what we have now.

01:45:41.000 Also, it's never going to have way more problems.

01:45:44.000 It's never going to change.

01:45:46.000 Like, we're not going to repeal the 19th. 0.57

01:45:47.000 We're not going to repeal the 17th.

01:45:48.000 We're not going to have a voting system like that.

01:45:50.000 We are going to be stuck in this endless cycle until there's some upheaval and then things will change.

01:45:56.000 Well, that could be possible if we wait to the last minute.

01:45:58.000 But I'm telling you, these people.

01:46:00.000 Mass deportations, mass denaturalizations.

01:46:02.000 You'll probably get pretty close to getting to fixing a lot of these problems that we're talking about.

01:46:07.000 I think it's a lot easier for a corporation.

01:46:09.000 To bribe 435 individuals than 9 million, 9 million, 90 million people.

01:46:15.000 If they really need the masses of the United States to vote for Exxon, Exxon's going to have to bribe a whole congressional district with 9 million, but I guess I understand your point.

01:46:22.000 I'm saying 750,000 times 10 or whatever. 1.00

01:46:25.000 I mean, you're talking about worrying about the corruption of one individual versus worrying about a million different issues with a bunch of idiots. 1.00

01:46:33.000 And those people voting their own self interest. 1.00

01:46:35.000 Yeah.

01:46:36.000 That's what's happening with the representatives in Congress.

01:46:37.000 That's what everybody's doing.

01:46:38.000 That's why this system doesn't work.

01:46:40.000 That's why you need somebody like a dictator and not one that can pass it down to their sons.

01:46:45.000 But that's why you need somebody, and then you can blame that person.

01:46:47.000 Well, I mean, look, if they're a dictator, then they're going to make the decision as to whether or not they're going to be able to pass it down to their sons.

01:46:52.000 Correct.

01:46:52.000 Understand that, but that's not like you know, you're about to start talking about Baron Trump.

01:46:58.000 That's it, but that's not a real thing.

01:47:00.000 You're not really arguing because if you're concerned with, I want to go back to like Roman, where like you know, Roman times, where you know, see, like it was always the people like if you look at like kings and emperors over the years, it was always the people who worked really hard and had to work to get there that were really great and benevolent dictators, really good.

01:47:19.000 They were really great for the country, and it was always when you like they passed it down to their own kids and it got messy.

01:47:24.000 Then the ninth leader, fifth leader down the road.

01:47:28.000 We don't have any responsible people.

01:47:30.000 You need one responsible person.

01:47:32.000 Just like in a company, you need a CEO.

01:47:33.000 Washington was offered this and he was like, absolutely not.

01:47:36.000 We're not doing this.

01:47:37.000 Because he understood. 0.61

01:47:38.000 I mean, after like five leaders, somebody crappy comes in.

01:47:41.000 There's a reason that it was the way it was for almost all of human history.

01:47:47.000 And that is because people need hierarchies.

01:47:50.000 And when we're splitting it this way and we're giving opportunities and opinions to the masses, it doesn't work.

01:47:57.000 Well, our system didn't even start that way, though.

01:47:58.000 We didn't have like universal suffrage in the United States. 0.88

01:48:01.000 That wasn't how it was designed.

01:48:03.000 So we're dealing with something right now that's like totally.

01:48:05.000 Correct.

01:48:05.000 Ambassadorization of what was intended.

01:48:07.000 I totally get that.

01:48:08.000 But it morphed into that, right?

01:48:09.000 So either you figure out a way to get it back to what it was, which seems almost impossible with how large it has become now.

01:48:15.000 And the only way to get out of that is upheaval and implementing something.

01:48:20.000 Well, or education, because I think you got to be uneducated masses need to be led by a dictator or they'll just devolve into killing each other.

01:48:27.000 But the educated, Can function on their own.

01:48:29.000 That's the education. 0.98

01:48:30.000 The educated, the college people are the ones that are actually voting for the dumb stuff.

01:48:34.000 Well, really educated, like you know how to grow plants, you know how to grow corn, you know what the colors in the sky indicate the weather is going to be, like important things that, like, you know, in addition to knowing nine times seven, you know, but like the people that really know how to survive are the backbone of this country, the farmers, the cattle ranchers, and things like that.

01:48:54.000 And they could be bribed.

01:48:56.000 I mean, that's the thing.

01:48:56.000 Of course, but it's harder to bribe 10,000 cattle ranchers than one guy that represents them.

01:49:00.000 All these people getting bribed.

01:49:01.000 Not us.

01:49:02.000 It's really about the vibration.

01:49:04.000 That's what we got to get.

01:49:05.000 Anyway, I digress.

01:49:07.000 Direct Republic, it's better than what we got.

01:49:09.000 I mean, I don't know that.

01:49:11.000 It could be better than what we got.

01:49:12.000 I mean, you're making an argument for it, but I don't know that you're making an argument for it.

01:49:15.000 It's a very socialist argument.

01:49:16.000 It's like, oh, this utopia could be so much better than they do it and they just get like 50 million people killed.

01:49:20.000 The question is, do you have faith in the masses?

01:49:22.000 No.

01:49:23.000 In any way.

01:49:23.000 No.

01:49:24.000 What gives you any idea, any inkling that you have any faith in the masses?

01:49:28.000 What have you seen in your life that's like these.

01:49:28.000 Like, really?

01:49:32.000 I see these people all in a room, 100 people, wherever you are at any given time, you're like, yep, these people should be making the decisions about what's in my food.

01:49:40.000 Well, I mean, maybe they should have a say in what we all eat, but I'm not saying that all of us together.

01:49:45.000 And then, of course, you have the Senate, the group of better men that can override any of it.

01:49:48.000 That's what it was supposed to be, but it's not now that they're not elected by the state legislatures and they're elected directly by the people, and that's what the 17th Amendment is that we should repeal.

01:49:57.000 I'm not advocating getting rid of the senators.

01:49:59.000 I do like the Senate because I like the ability to override the masses.

01:50:03.000 But that's not.

01:50:04.000 They're also voted by the masses, right?

01:50:07.000 Like, they get a pop.

01:50:08.000 They're now voted by.

01:50:10.000 We talked about this last night.

01:50:12.000 The reason, like, how bad it is that people don't understand that a senator, that every state gets two senators.

01:50:18.000 And there are people that are upset that Wyoming has two senators and California has two senators because they think, well, there's so many more people in California.

01:50:26.000 They wanted people that were involved in politics to choose who was going to be in the Senate because.

01:50:26.000 What was the thought process?

01:50:33.000 It was the state legislatures that were using it.

01:50:35.000 The state legislatures picked it because.

01:50:37.000 But what was the reason for the disconnect?

01:50:38.000 I'm not.

01:50:40.000 Why did it want it separated from.

01:50:43.000 Senators are supposed to look out for the interest of the state as an independent body, not look out for the interests of the people. 0.90

01:50:51.000 That's what the House is for.

01:50:52.000 The House is the people's house. 0.99

01:50:52.000 Correct. 0.99

01:50:54.000 It represents the population.

01:50:55.000 The Senate is supposed to represent the interests of the individual state, not specifically the people of the state, what's best for the state itself.

01:51:03.000 For sure.

01:51:04.000 The elites.

01:51:05.000 No, not the elites.

01:51:06.000 They're the elites.

01:51:07.000 They were supposed to represent the elites with the head of states.

01:51:09.000 All right, we're going to go to super chats now.

01:51:11.000 Go to your Rumble rants and your super chats.

01:51:13.000 So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, go on over to timcast.com, become a member there so you can join us for the after show, so you can join our Discord, and then head on over to rumble.com so you can join us for the after show.

01:51:24.000 Right now, we're going to read some of your Rumble rants.

01:51:27.000 All right.

01:51:29.000 MarshukaDark316 says, We already have the Communist Control Act. 0.64

01:51:33.000 As it's time to enact the Socialism Control Act and the Islamist Control Act, it seems like it'd solve many issues.

01:51:39.000 Look, the Communist Control Act is on the books, and I personally am one of the people that thinks that it should be enforced. 0.96

01:51:46.000 You should do some kind of interview with people that are coming to the United States, and if they hold those types of views, views that are incompatible with the United States, they should be denied entry. 0.88

01:51:56.000 Go to the gulags. 0.69

01:51:57.000 There's no good argument. 1.00

01:51:58.000 For mass importing people that hate your country.

01:52:00.000 Yeah, there's none at all. 0.64

01:52:02.000 And so, yes, the government should be selective about who we allow into the country if we're going to have immigration at all. 0.96

01:52:07.000 Personally, I think we should shut immigration down for a couple years and kind of let, you know, figure out what the hell's going on. 0.83

01:52:14.000 But yeah, the Communist Control Act is still in effect.

01:52:18.000 The Supreme Court has heard some arguments around the freedom of speech of whether or not you're allowed to talk about this kind of stuff.

01:52:26.000 And they found against the act, but the act in and of itself has not been found unconstitutional. 0.98

01:52:31.000 I think that it's ridiculous to allow people from foreign countries that are hostile to your nation to become, you know, even get green cards, never mind become citizens. 1.00

01:52:40.000 So I like that tweet though. 0.99

01:52:42.000 I mean, diet super chat.

01:52:43.000 It's good.

01:52:43.000 Yeah, great super chat.

01:52:44.000 It's good.

01:52:45.000 Let's see here.

01:52:47.000 Are they called what?

01:52:48.000 What are they called?

01:52:49.000 What?

01:52:50.000 Rumble rants.

01:52:51.000 Right now we're doing super chats, but the rumble rants are next.

01:52:54.000 Yeah, we'll.

01:52:55.000 Oh, these are super chats?

01:52:56.000 Yeah, this is my bad.

01:52:57.000 I'm sorry.

01:52:57.000 My bad.

01:52:57.000 I moved you over there.

01:52:58.000 You're coming straight from YouTube.

01:52:59.000 Yeah, so let's see.

01:53:00.000 Max Reddick says, James, please come to Ann Arbor, Michigan and speak with the radical left.

01:53:04.000 This.

01:53:05.000 We have seen enough of California, brother.

01:53:07.000 Yeah.

01:53:08.000 Well, he's bringing it down.

01:53:09.000 He's taking his photo.

01:53:10.000 Traveling costs money, but yeah, I'm jotting it down right now.

01:53:13.000 All right.

01:53:13.000 I'll come.

01:53:14.000 Ann Arbor.

01:53:15.000 I'll remind you.

01:53:16.000 I mean, look, man, California's got plenty of leftists and the weather's nice, so it's hard to make an argument that going to Ann Arbor is better than going to California.

01:53:24.000 It's nice there.

01:53:25.000 We just went to Boston for the first time interviewing Scottish soccer fans.

01:53:30.000 Oh, really?

01:53:30.000 It was so much fun.

01:53:30.000 It was more of like a feel good video, and it was great.

01:53:33.000 I mean, it was such a good time.

01:53:34.000 Is that live now?

01:53:35.000 Yeah, it is.

01:53:36.000 It is.

01:53:37.000 Yeah, youtube.com slash James Klug.

01:53:39.000 They were so appreciative.

01:53:41.000 They're traveling the U.S.

01:53:42.000 They were so appreciative of the United States and like us hosting.

01:53:46.000 I mean, they had nothing but good things to say about everybody police officers, the food, everything.

01:53:51.000 They were great.

01:53:52.000 All right.

01:53:53.000 Let's see. 0.63

01:53:54.000 Inomi says Hi, Tim and crew.

01:53:56.000 I hope everyone is doing well.

01:53:58.000 I'm not someone who typically does this, but my girlfriend has set up a GoFundMe.

01:54:01.000 I was hoping you would give it a shout out.

01:54:03.000 Thanks and God bless.

01:54:04.000 Her name is Kenzie Schmidt. 0.92

01:54:06.000 So that's K E N Z I E. S C H M I D T. You have to like give us the reason why.

01:54:13.000 Like, what could be something crazy? 0.93

01:54:15.000 I don't know.

01:54:16.000 Hopefully, it's not like so.

01:54:17.000 Go check it out and donate if it's not something crazy.

01:54:20.000 Go make an educated judgment by looking at the actual GoFundMe.

01:54:20.000 Yeah.

01:54:25.000 Generally, we like GIFs and Go, right?

01:54:28.000 GoFundMe.

01:54:28.000 I think so.

01:54:29.000 It's got better terms of service.

01:54:31.000 A lot of people don't know about GIFs and Go.

01:54:34.000 So I try not to take it too hard, but yeah, generally.

01:54:38.000 Sir MissileMonkey says it's not just L E making arrests.

01:54:40.000 Arrests need to stick.

01:54:41.000 The judges need to be held accountable.

01:54:43.000 Arrests mean nothing if judges just release them.

01:54:45.000 Look, man, I agree.

01:54:46.000 A lot of the problem is bad DAs, bad judges.

01:54:49.000 But if you have, like, having police on, like, a visible police force does disincentivize crime to a degree.

01:54:58.000 So, like, if you have, like, you know, broken windows policing where people will get arrested for small things, it actually does have an effect on overall crime rates.

01:55:07.000 So, your point is well taken.

01:55:08.000 Bad DAs and bad judges, you know, don't help at all and they tend to exacerbate the problems.

01:55:14.000 But having a present law enforcement or a law enforcement presence, uh, Really does help to kind of deter crime.

01:55:24.000 So let's see.

01:55:26.000 Bashir, Clank says Bashir will appoint a Democrat if McConnell passes away.

01:55:31.000 Look, man, if the people that are talking on the Hill are to be believed, he's still alive.

01:55:38.000 But, you know, if you don't believe anything the government says, then there's no reason to believe that he is.

01:55:44.000 I took Laura Lewis for her word.

01:55:46.000 I think there has to be a special election in Kentucky, too.

01:55:51.000 They get appointed for a certain amount of time and then they have.

01:55:54.000 Yeah.

01:55:54.000 To have an election.

01:55:55.000 Well, but in Kentucky, they do a special election.

01:55:57.000 They don't, like, the governor doesn't actually.

01:55:59.000 It's not Illinois.

01:56:00.000 It's not the ones that are appointed.

01:56:00.000 Like, in Illinois, they do.

01:56:01.000 It's only a temporary appointment until they finish out the term.

01:56:05.000 So let's see.

01:56:05.000 Yeah.

01:56:08.000 Marky Mark Outdoors says Ian, a person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, and dangerous animals. 0.99

01:56:13.000 That's why that direct republic system wouldn't work. 1.00

01:56:17.000 Crowds are panicky, yeah.

01:56:17.000 Well, crowds.

01:56:18.000 But people in aggregate aren't necessarily dumb or panicky.

01:56:22.000 They can do great things. 0.99

01:56:25.000 Bill Dozer says, Phil, the sword missile is cool and all, but why don't we have sharks with freaking laser beams on their freaking heads yet? 0.80

01:56:31.000 Because sharks are water animals. 0.81

01:56:33.000 They have to stay in the water.

01:56:35.000 I mean, if you drop a shark.

01:56:36.000 We have a shark in Jersey on the shore.

01:56:37.000 Big one, nine foot white beach.

01:56:40.000 Really?

01:56:40.000 Very close to the beach, yes.

01:56:42.000 I just saw a video of that.

01:56:43.000 Jaws in real life.

01:56:45.000 I think we have weaponized dolphins.

01:56:47.000 It was a white shark.

01:56:48.000 It was a white shark, yeah.

01:56:49.000 Gray whites.

01:56:50.000 They said that we have the best CIA attack dolphins.

01:56:53.000 Wasn't that Trump's?

01:56:54.000 He said, we have the best.

01:56:54.000 I'm not saying we don't have the best CIA attack dolphins in the world.

01:56:57.000 But we have the best attack dolphin in the whole world.

01:57:00.000 Dolphins are very smart.

01:57:02.000 Yeah, they are.

01:57:03.000 And rapier, if I understand correctly.

01:57:05.000 I think they said that Iran does that.

01:57:06.000 Why are they so handsy? 0.99

01:57:07.000 Yeah, they don't even have hands.

01:57:09.000 I just love it.

01:57:10.000 That's the reason. 0.97

01:57:13.000 Methos says, I agree with conservative Lisa Kudrow about the nude bikers. 0.99

01:57:16.000 Maybe degenerate, nervous, make degenerates nervous again. 0.92

01:57:21.000 Yes.

01:57:22.000 That's a good tweet.

01:57:22.000 Yeah.

01:57:23.000 Well, it's not a tweet.

01:57:25.000 It's a.

01:57:26.000 No, I walk around when people say something good.

01:57:27.000 I'm like, that's a good tweet.

01:57:28.000 They should tweet that.

01:57:29.000 That's a.

01:57:30.000 That's a good one.

01:57:30.000 Yeah.

01:57:31.000 That's a t shirt.

01:57:32.000 Yeah, it's a lot.

01:57:33.000 Bumper sticker, whatever it may be.

01:57:35.000 Make it.

01:57:35.000 I got that from Isabella Riley.

01:57:37.000 She used to walk around.

01:57:38.000 Like, we would hang out all the time, and I would say random things.

01:57:40.000 She'd be like, that's a tweet.

01:57:41.000 I've heard her say that.

01:57:42.000 I've heard her say that.

01:57:43.000 She totally got that straight away.

01:57:44.000 Years ago, I heard her say that.

01:57:45.000 AK Storm says, Jocko thinks that 20% of a cop's time should be training one day a week or one week a month of hand to hand firearms, de escalation, et cetera.

01:57:53.000 Do you think the shorthanded would be made up with better cops?

01:57:58.000 Look, I think that, like, look, if you're a cop, you should probably at least be a blue belt in, like, jujitsu.

01:58:03.000 So that way, you can restrain people and know how to do takedowns, probably a little judo so you can do takedowns and stuff.

01:58:11.000 I do think that they should get a lot more training than they do.

01:58:14.000 I think Jocko's idea is probably pretty good.

01:58:17.000 Most police, you know, they end up using their firearm twice a year so they can qualify.

01:58:23.000 And that means that most people that go to the range regularly are better shots than cops are.

01:58:30.000 And you see that in the way that, you know, police body cams, the, the, The shootouts don't often look all that impressive.

01:58:37.000 You know, they're not very impressive.

01:58:39.000 So, personally, I think they should spend more time on training.

01:58:42.000 That would mean you'd have to increase the number of law enforcement so that the cops that are actually in training are not, you know, they're taken off the beat or taken off their assignment.

01:58:52.000 Whatever it costs.

01:58:53.000 Yeah, and it costs more money.

01:58:53.000 So, let's see.

01:58:57.000 Let's see.

01:58:58.000 Forced name change says the problem with waiting for police to administer consequences is it puts the consequences low on probability scale.

01:59:04.000 Hence, ineffective deterrence, immediate consequences from society is the opposite.

01:59:08.000 Well, you know, there's only certain things that we can say.

01:59:10.000 On YouTube, so we're going to leave it at that.

01:59:12.000 There's a $300 one right there.

01:59:14.000 Oh, boy.

01:59:15.000 All right.

01:59:16.000 $300 for sure.

01:59:17.000 I mean, like, someone's talking about this.

01:59:18.000 He's like, super chats.

01:59:19.000 Like, how much is it?

01:59:19.000 I was like, I don't know.

01:59:20.000 I've seen them up to $100.

01:59:22.000 This is the biggest one I've seen.

01:59:23.000 I've never seen a $300.

01:59:24.000 I get that a lot. 1.00

01:59:25.000 Iran needs to be put in their place. 1.00

01:59:28.000 Do you all think we will drop the hard N on them before this is over? 1.00

01:59:32.000 I don't want boots involved, but I don't see any other choice.

01:59:35.000 Soft N. Soft N.

01:59:36.000 Whoever this person is, I love you.

01:59:36.000 I love this.

01:59:38.000 We're on the same page, bro.

01:59:40.000 The N word comes out.

01:59:42.000 I mean, look, I don't think that there's going to be.

01:59:46.000 That should be a t shirt.

01:59:48.000 I don't think there's going to be a use of nuclear weapons, but I don't think nuclear weapons are necessary to basically do significant damage to Iran, right?

01:59:58.000 Like, the U.S. has a bunch of munitions, they've got a lot of bombs, and using a nuclear weapon just opens up Pandora's box for other countries to justify using it. 1.00

02:00:07.000 No one's used a nuclear weapon since World War II, and I think that we all want to keep it that way.

02:00:13.000 There's Plenty of ordinance that the U.S. military has.

02:00:17.000 I don't think that it's necessary. 0.97

02:00:18.000 And I don't want boots on the ground in Iran either. 0.56

02:00:20.000 Look, Iran's not Iraq, right?

02:00:22.000 Iraq's got a lot of wide open desert.

02:00:24.000 Iran's got a lot of mountains.

02:00:26.000 It's basically a mountain stronghold. 0.92

02:00:28.000 So to have troops invade.

02:00:30.000 That's a lot of the problem we have with Afghanistan, too.

02:00:32.000 Yeah.

02:00:33.000 So, I mean, we're not going to see the U.S. putting troops into Iran the way that we did with Iraq.

02:00:40.000 So I don't think that that's.

02:00:42.000 Especially not in the wintertime.

02:00:43.000 Yeah, I don't think that that's even a.

02:00:45.000 I don't think it's a realistic discussion, even though there were people that were right after the strike started.

02:00:50.000 They're like, oh, there's going to be boots on the ground.

02:00:52.000 There's going to be boots on the ground. 0.92

02:00:54.000 There's not going to be boots on the ground in Iran just because of the topography of Iran. 0.98

02:00:54.000 They're wrong. 0.98

02:00:58.000 No Karg Island? 1.00

02:01:01.000 I don't think they're going to take it. 1.00

02:01:02.000 I mean, that's possible.

02:01:03.000 It always sounds weird whenever you say it, isn't it? 1.00

02:01:05.000 K-R-G. 1.00

02:01:06.000 Yeah, K-R-G.

02:01:07.000 That's how I've heard it pronounced. 1.00

02:01:08.000 That's possible.

02:01:10.000 But even still, if you put troops on Karg Island, they're sitting ducks. 0.96

02:01:15.000 Because Iran's right there and they're going to be shooting missiles and drones at them and stuff.

02:01:19.000 So I don't think that's going to happen.

02:01:21.000 It's possible.

02:01:22.000 It's definitely more likely than an actual invasion of Iran, but there will not be a U.S. invasion of Iran.

02:01:27.000 That is not happening.

02:01:28.000 I agree.

02:01:29.000 So let's see.

02:01:32.000 Phil, hey, Phil, China has launched their first sub based missile and is increasing their research into nuclear subsystems. 0.91

02:01:37.000 China is the problem. 0.99

02:01:39.000 Look, man, I'm consistently saying, you know, China is an adversary and we need to treat them as such. 1.00

02:01:39.000 I agree. 1.00

02:01:44.000 And that's literally one of the major reasons why I think.

02:01:47.000 The United States should do everything they can to keep our relationship with Japan as close as possible.

02:01:53.000 Japan is, their society is very similar to ours in that they cherish their history and their people.

02:02:02.000 And I think that the United States should do the same.

02:02:04.000 And I think that we should be as closely aligned with Japan as we possibly can.

02:02:11.000 So, but yeah.

02:02:13.000 Number one.

02:02:14.000 Again, smash the like button, share the show with all your friends, head on over to Rumble, become a member there, join Timcast.com's Discord.

02:02:22.000 James, do you have anything you want to shout out?

02:02:24.000 I guess just you guys go subscribe over on my YouTube channel, youtube.comslash James Klug.

02:02:31.000 If you enjoy political street videos, commentary, all that, you're definitely going to enjoy the channel.

02:02:35.000 You guys, thank you so much for having me.

02:02:36.000 Really appreciate it.

02:02:37.000 Lisa?

02:02:39.000 Chad hates me today.

02:02:40.000 No!

02:02:42.000 Chad hates everybody every day.

02:02:43.000 No, no, I like that.

02:02:44.000 Do you agree with what they're saying about me?

02:02:45.000 No, no, no.

02:02:46.000 I'm just kidding.

02:02:47.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:02:49.000 Send me your suggestions on who you want on the show.

02:02:51.000 I would tell you to follow me on Twitter, but I don't really tweet even anymore.

02:02:55.000 It's at Lisa Elizabeth if you want to, to see what I say occasionally.

02:02:58.000 Other than that, you know, follow Timcast and do the thing.

02:03:04.000 Do whatever.

02:03:05.000 Do the thing.

02:03:07.000 Speaking of the thing, I did it earlier.

02:03:08.000 It was Brian Shapiro's show, Pushing the Limits.

02:03:10.000 I sat in for Brian Shapiro and Hosted in his stead while he was dominating at the World Series of poker.

02:03:15.000 I got to find out what he did today.

02:03:17.000 Also, shout out to Tim Poole playing at the World Series, bringing it home.

02:03:20.000 He's doing well.

02:03:21.000 Yeah.

02:03:22.000 As of last I heard, he was doing extremely well.

02:03:24.000 That's awesome.

02:03:25.000 My dude's getting it.

02:03:26.000 Check out the Pushing the Limits episode.

02:03:28.000 It's on YouTube.

02:03:29.000 It was very fun.

02:03:30.000 I did two hours with Shapiro's, took calls, and got to know some of the crowd.

02:03:34.000 It was great.

02:03:35.000 So, shout out everybody.

02:03:36.000 Catch you later.

02:03:37.000 Oh, Carter Banks.

02:03:38.000 Carter, what are you doing?

02:03:38.000 Yeah.

02:03:39.000 I'm back here behind this crazy TV setup.

02:03:43.000 Peeking through the cracks for the show.

02:03:45.000 I'll chime in every once in a while.

02:03:46.000 You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere, mainly on Axe and at Carter Banks Official on Instagram.

02:03:50.000 Shout out to Tim and Brian.

02:03:52.000 I heard they're doing well.

02:03:53.000 And I can't wait to watch the episode that you hosted, Ian.

02:03:57.000 But yeah, let's get into the after show.

02:03:58.000 There's probably a bunch of stuff we can talk about that we did not talk about yet on this show.

02:04:03.000 I am Phil that remains on Twix.

02:04:05.000 The left lane is for crime.

02:04:06.000 And we will see you all tomorrow.

02:07:00.000 We will in the Are we live already?

02:07:03.000 We are live.

02:07:04.000 Oh my God.

02:07:05.000 So listen, there is.

02:07:07.000 Bring up the picture of her, Carter.

02:07:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:07:09.000 So this is Tilly Norwood.

02:07:11.000 If she doesn't look familiar to you, that's because she's not even real.

02:07:15.000 But she's an AI actress.

02:07:17.000 She's going to be in a new movie.

02:07:19.000 Tilly Norwood to lead new movie, Miss Aligned, marking feature debut for AI actor.

02:07:24.000 I really am impressed with how, like, Hollywood sad she looks.

02:07:29.000 Like, they really nailed that, like, drug-disabled, baggy-eyed girl from, you know. 0.99

02:07:35.000 What's that vampire movie? 1.00

02:07:36.000 That's who she is. 0.99

02:07:36.000 Kate. 0.99

02:07:37.000 Kristen. 0.97

02:07:38.000 Stuart?

02:07:38.000 Stuart.

02:07:39.000 Yeah.

02:07:39.000 Twilight?

02:07:40.000 What is that?

02:07:41.000 Too much. 0.99

02:07:41.000 No, she. 0.99

02:07:42.000 Kristen Stuart.

02:07:43.000 Too much.

02:07:44.000 I don't know.

02:07:44.000 She just looks terrible.

02:07:46.000 But I mean, it looks.

02:07:47.000 Exhaustion in her eyes.

02:07:48.000 I assume that's, you know, what the character.

02:07:49.000 You can smell that New York City street, too. 0.98

02:07:52.000 You know, there's a pile of trash right next to her. 0.98

02:07:52.000 Right. 0.98

02:07:54.000 From Variety.

02:07:55.000 Tilly Norwood, the AI actor who sparked a frenzy of anger in Hollywood and across the wider industry in late 2025, is set to front her first feature film.

02:08:05.000 Misaligned, announced by Particle Six, the AI focused studio behind Norwood.

02:08:09.000 Is described as a comedy drama telling a coming of age story infused with existential AI chaos.

02:08:14.000 Set inside the so called Tillyverse, a surreal digital world located somewhere up in the cloud, the film will follow Tilly, an AI being with no real body, no childhood, and no lived experience of her own, only to access everyone else's.

02:08:28.000 Things spiral when a seductive rogue bot from the dark web convinces her to abandon her guardrails and begin developing desires, impulses, and ambitions, making her more human.

02:08:37.000 So this whole deal is going to be like the whole thing is.

02:08:43.000 Kind of like breaking the fourth wall in that she is AI, right?

02:08:47.000 Like, and that's part of the story.

02:08:50.000 Whereas, like, it's not going to be just an AI actor among other, you know, human being actors.

02:08:56.000 The whole thing is about AI.

02:08:58.000 How do you feel about this, Lisa?

02:08:59.000 This is an AI actor.

02:08:59.000 What?

02:09:01.000 Do you think that an AI movie about AIs made by AI is a good thing or a bad thing? 0.53

02:09:07.000 She kind of looks hot.

02:09:08.000 Is that like what matters?

02:09:09.000 She looks hot to you?

02:09:10.000 From what I can see, she's not a real person, though.

02:09:13.000 Who cares?

02:09:14.000 I don't care anymore.

02:09:15.000 It's a digital construct.

02:09:16.000 I don't care anymore.

02:09:17.000 I'm so smoky later.

02:09:19.000 I don't care.

02:09:20.000 I got a couple questions.

02:09:21.000 I wish I was drunk.

02:09:22.000 Is the whole movie AI?

02:09:24.000 That's what it sounds like by the reader.

02:09:27.000 You ever see on those Instagram?

02:09:28.000 Instagram has like, you scroll through and they've got these like corny little sagas and they're like, they're totally AI and they have these weird storylines.

02:09:36.000 I definitely get sucked into some of them.

02:09:38.000 Like, I'm like, what am I watching?

02:09:39.000 I get sucked into all kinds of like shorts and stuff.

02:09:42.000 Like on X, as soon as X added the swipe feature, like, it's like, all right, I got to stop this.

02:09:47.000 The thing taking over.

02:09:48.000 Instagram right now is the AI animal videos.

02:09:50.000 They're so funny.

02:09:51.000 Oh, God, what is it?

02:09:52.000 They're just random stuff, like two rabbits working on building a home or something.

02:09:56.000 You're just like, yep, this is cute.

02:09:58.000 You definitely have a heavy animal favorite algorithm.

02:10:00.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:10:01.000 It's like watches, cars, and animals, yeah.

02:10:04.000 Watches, politics, too.

02:10:06.000 But, oh, dude, they're going mega viral.

02:10:09.000 Like, mega viral.

02:10:10.000 People like to see an animal doing something absurd.

02:10:10.000 Because it's cute.

02:10:12.000 They're going super viral.

02:10:13.000 I don't know how this is going to do, though.

02:10:15.000 It's probably going to.

02:10:16.000 I mean, it probably took like five buckets of water to make.

02:10:18.000 I feel like the fact that she.

02:10:20.000 Like the whole storyline is that she's an AI, and so, like I said, they're kind of breaking the fourth wall.

02:10:26.000 Like, she's obviously going to be produced as an AI movie, but the fact that it is about an AI character, it's not like she's an AI amongst other human beings that are acting in the film.

02:10:38.000 The whole film is AI, it's about AI.

02:10:41.000 Probably would never watch it.

02:10:42.000 It's not interesting to me, though.

02:10:44.000 I don't know, they're going to protest it.

02:10:45.000 It's going to be a really big deal in Hollywood for sure.

02:10:48.000 I want to see it. 0.75

02:10:49.000 Is unions they're going to be, if they're not already, they're losing their minds.

02:10:52.000 They're just dumbing ourselves down by any of this, anyway.

02:10:55.000 Like they did studies where people, they would have a control group where they didn't use AI for certain things.

02:11:01.000 And then they would have a control group that did.

02:11:03.000 And the control group that used AI, they had, you know, like a more creative or whatever project.

02:11:10.000 However, after time, when they stopped using it, they actually became less creative than the first group and it stayed that way.

02:11:17.000 Like even if they used it that one time in the operation, if they had four other times down the road, they weren't getting their creativity back.

02:11:26.000 And so all we're really doing is just like dumbing ourselves.

02:11:28.000 Down by using AI over and over and over again.

02:11:30.000 So, there's an argument that Tim makes a lot.

02:11:32.000 He says that, you know, AI, everyone's going to be using AI.

02:11:35.000 Everyone's going to make their own films.

02:11:37.000 Everyone's going to make their own stuff, and we're not going to have any kind of cohesion.

02:11:41.000 Now, I, any kind of, because it used to be where, you know, everybody watched Game of Thrones and everybody talked about it the next day at work and blah, blah, blah.

02:11:48.000 He said that's going to all go away.

02:11:50.000 I think that the thing, the phenomenon that you're talking about is kind of pointing to the idea that I have, which is, Not everyone's going to want to use it, right?

02:12:00.000 Like, just because everyone can do something doesn't mean everyone's going to want to do it.

02:12:05.000 And there are people that aren't going to be interested in being like, oh, I want to make my own.

02:12:10.000 They're going to be like, well, what is the one that, you know, what is the one that's most popular?

02:12:14.000 What's the one that everybody says is good?

02:12:16.000 They're looking for the social approval.

02:12:19.000 And even if it's not, maybe, yeah, they're looking for the social approval of the story or the movie or whatever.

02:12:25.000 And then they're going to say, well, I'll check that one out because everyone else likes it.

02:12:28.000 They're not going to look for customized entertainment like, I will say that there's some of that.

02:12:33.000 I think that, like, I've been on Book Talk a lot, which is like book Instagram or book.

02:12:37.000 Oh, don't even get me.

02:12:38.000 Like, so you're like the milking farm thing.

02:12:41.000 What was it?

02:12:42.000 The bull where she filmed the bull?

02:12:43.000 No, no, no.

02:12:44.000 I'm just saying I'm seeing a resurgence, though, of people very interested in the classics and very interested.

02:12:50.000 Oh, really?

02:12:50.000 Oh, big time.

02:12:51.000 Yeah.

02:12:51.000 Like, right now, they have like waves of things that, you know, people are a fan of.

02:12:56.000 But East of Eden, right now, people are encouraging people to read East of Eden again.

02:13:00.000 I've counted Monte Cristo, which is why I went and read it again.

02:13:03.000 Right.

02:13:03.000 Um, Is back on Book Talk and Brothers, Karamazov, back again.

02:13:09.000 Is Book Talk an actual platform?

02:13:11.000 It's like TikTok, but it's like the book section of it.

02:13:15.000 But I'm definitely seeing a resurgence of people very interested in classic works, which I kind of think is great as a juxtaposition to this.

02:13:26.000 Read the classics.

02:13:26.000 They were classic for a reason.

02:13:28.000 Some people are just so creative, though, that, yeah, sure, AI can whip up the most creative, insane storyline I would imagine.

02:13:34.000 But some people are just.

02:13:35.000 Kind of to that previous point, somebody's going to be having all these fun ideas.

02:13:39.000 They're going to use AI to help them turn that into something.

02:13:42.000 And we're all going to hear, hey, did you hear that recent episode or recent show that somebody started?

02:13:47.000 It's really good.

02:13:47.000 Go check it out.

02:13:48.000 Oh, I don't want to do my own.

02:13:49.000 This is like great.

02:13:50.000 Yeah, I think that AI is going to be used as a tool.

02:13:54.000 There's a lot of people that are like, oh, AI is going to make work go away and blah, blah, blah.

02:13:59.000 And it's like, if you look at the way that companies are going right now, the people that are using AI in their businesses are actually using it to increase productivity and increase efficiency.

02:14:09.000 I don't think it's going to work.

02:14:11.000 I'll tell you why.

02:14:11.000 I mean, for efficiency, so.

02:14:12.000 What do you think?

02:14:13.000 No, You don't think it's going to work for entertainment?

02:14:16.000 Yeah, I'll tell you why I don't think it's going to work for entertainment.

02:14:18.000 What has made things great, movies, books, anything, was really deeply exploring the human condition.

02:14:24.000 And characters with very complex parts of their personality where there's something like really good and wholesome about them, but something evil or dark in them, or, you know, these complicated characters over time, that is what has been beautiful and good, right?

02:14:39.000 And people really do, whether they believe it or not, really want the beautiful and the good.

02:14:43.000 And I don't think AI is going to be able to explore that human condition because it doesn't completely understand the human condition like a human could or put that nuance in there that a human could.

02:14:56.000 And so, therefore, I don't think over time that will be successful.

02:15:00.000 So, to your point, there's a lot of people that say, oh, you know, there's so many films that.

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