Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - IRAN STRIKE FAILED Claims LEAKED Intel Report, Trump Admin DENIES Report | Timcast IRL

00:02:49.000 A leaked Intel report suggests that the Iranian strikes failed after 14 bunker busters were dropped.

00:02:57.000 The facility was only set back a few months in terms of nuclear enrichment and weapons development.

00:03:03.000 Now, the White House and the Trump administration are denying this claim, saying this is totally wrong.

00:03:09.000 The question is, why does this assessment exist?

00:03:13.000 And it sounds like from the Trump administration, it does exist.

00:03:16.000 They're just saying they disagree with it.

00:03:18.000 They feel that it is an incorrect assessment.

00:03:21.000 My fear in this is if the argument comes out and it is publicly accepted that the strikes failed, then you are going to see the warmongers come out in full force saying, well, now we have no choice.

00:03:32.000 We have to scale these things up.

00:03:34.000 In the meantime, however, it looks like the ceasefire is holding, which is good news.

00:03:39.000 And Donald Trump this morning had one of the best lines of a president ever when he just said, you got two countries that have been fighting for so long, they don't know what the they are doing.

00:03:49.000 And he dropped the F-bomb.

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00:03:53.000 I appreciate that.

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00:07:26.000 Radon, well, glad to have you.

00:07:27.000 We got Elad hanging out.

00:07:29.000 Good evening, everybody.

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00:07:44.000 Let's get into it.

00:07:45.000 Here's the news from the Daily Mail.

00:07:46.000 White House furious at top-secret leak on Iran nuclear site bombing as Trump faces impeachment calls.

00:07:53.000 Additionally, the impeachment failed, but we'll get to that in a bit.

00:07:56.000 A leaked intel assessment claiming Trump's strike on Iran did not destroy Tehran's nuclear program is flat out wrong, the White House has claimed.

00:08:03.000 The report conducted by the Defense Intelligence Agency and leaked by CNN claims Saturday's airstrike on three Iranian nuclear sites only set the country's program back by months instead of completely destroying it.

00:08:15.000 Trump claims the strikes completely and totally obliterated, a statement echoed by White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt, who dismissed the assessment as a clear attempt to demean President Trump.

00:08:25.000 Everyone knows what happens when you drop 14 30,000-pound bombs perfectly on their targets, total obliteration.

00:08:33.000 Now, I don't know if I have the post actually pulled up, but I think the statements from the White House basically lay out that this assessment actually exists.

00:08:45.000 It's a real assessment.

00:08:46.000 So the question then is, why was it leaked?

00:08:49.000 Who leaked it?

00:08:50.000 And is Trump correct?

00:08:52.000 Now, here's what I want to say about all of these stories.

00:08:55.000 Trump is the source.

00:08:57.000 He is the primary source as the commander in chief.

00:09:00.000 So it is strange to me that CNN would run a story saying some random, random, low-level guy leaked this report to us, and we believe this over the actual president and the administration.

00:09:13.000 That being said, I understand administrations can lie, but for any layperson, you're going to be looking at random anonymous guy versus the president's administration.

00:09:23.000 I don't know why in this instance, you would doubt the primary source versus random anonymous source.

00:09:30.000 You have no idea who it even is.

00:09:31.000 Well, the thing, too, is this assessment was there were seven sources that were, there were like three sources and people were briefed on the report, but the report wasn't leaked to CNN.

00:09:42.000 CNN did not see the report.

00:09:44.000 So they only heard about the pieces of the report that these sources wanted them to hear about.

00:09:51.000 I've become so cynical of political motivations behind leaks that it's hard to believe what people, what's actually true and what is just being used as an angle.

00:10:03.000 A lot of these people in the administration, I mean, everybody involved in politics, a lot of these people who become sources for journalists seem to have an axe to grind.

00:10:11.000 Yeah, and people are out for Tulsi Gabbard.

00:10:13.000 They want her out.

00:10:14.000 Like, they've been messing with her whole intelligence situation for a while.

00:10:18.000 They had the flip-flopping FBI reports about potential terror cells in the U.S. They were going after Joe Kent by leaking some stuff.

00:10:25.000 I mean, there are, I think, elements in the media and out there, I don't know who they are, who really want Tulsi Gabbard out of her position.

00:10:36.000 Is it realistic to think that they're going to be able to influence the president to remove Tulsi?

00:10:42.000 I mean, he is, you know, it's not like he's afraid of firing people.

00:10:46.000 It's not like he's afraid of making changes on the fly.

00:10:48.000 think he'd fire Tulsi Gabbard.

00:10:49.000 But I don't know if this is...

00:10:55.000 That's what Caroline Leavitt said.

00:10:57.000 Right.

00:10:57.000 And so my question is why.

00:11:00.000 And my concern is they're going to claim, ah, well, if the strikes didn't work, we got to go in, don't we?

00:11:06.000 Well, I mean, look, at the end of the day, you don't, just because these strikes didn't work doesn't mean it calls for an invasion.

00:11:14.000 Maybe it calls for a whole nother sortie of the exact same strikes.

00:11:18.000 We also don't know that the 1430,000 pound ordinances did not destroy it.

00:11:26.000 We don't know that.

00:11:27.000 We know that CNN had three people, low-level people apparently at the White House tell them that they saw a draft, an early version of a draft report, right?

00:11:37.000 Like who of people who didn't check it out.

00:11:41.000 They're just looking at images.

00:11:42.000 They're just looking at graphics.

00:11:44.000 I don't think this is going to have a big impact.

00:11:47.000 To me, you look at who is sharing this online and the joy and the glee that they have that they can smear something on this incredible moment for the president.

00:12:01.000 It's CNN, it's liberal journalists, it's Democrats, and of course it came from low-level members of the deep state.

00:12:09.000 This is not going to have an actual foreign policy impact.

00:12:12.000 This was just like rage bait for people who cannot stand the fact that the president pulled off something incredible this week.

00:12:21.000 They cannot stand the fact that what he did was something that neither side could have pulled off.

00:12:28.000 This whole peace through strength thing where you protect the American people without losing a single soldier.

00:12:34.000 So I think that this is really just like, this is like a cultural artifact of the moment more than it is actually even like journalism or designed to have actually a foreign policy impact.

00:12:48.000 I would also just intentionally try to impugn the honor of Natasha Bertrand.

00:12:54.000 Very easily done.

00:12:55.000 Yeah, because she's been involved in a bunch of these stories accusing Trump of being, you know, Russian or whatever.

00:13:00.000 And, you know, that was all fake.

00:13:03.000 So I was not surprised when I pulled up the CNN story saying, actually, the Iranian sites are totally fine. 0.96

00:13:08.000 Uh-oh.

00:13:09.000 And I'm like, oh, look, it's Natasha Bertrand.

00:13:11.000 Yeah, I mean, surprising.

00:13:13.000 motivated reasoning is definitely not out of the question.

00:13:16.000 Yeah, she's the one who penned that political report in the first place with the 51. Yeah, she penned the political report.

00:13:23.000 And that report still has not been corrected or updated.

00:13:26.000 And the other thing about that report that cannot ever be forgotten is that it was Anthony Blinken with the Biden campaign who contacted one of like the main guy, the main intel officer who worked on that report and said, hey, don't you think this kind of has the hallmarks of Russian disinformation?

00:13:41.000 And the guy was like, yeah, it totally does.

00:13:43.000 And then he got 50 of his friends and they put the letter together.

00:13:47.000 And the letter didn't say also, I mean, when you look at the letter, the letter did not say that the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation.

00:13:54.000 It said it had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation.

00:13:57.000 And then everybody ran with it.

00:13:58.000 Gensaki, Russian disinfo.

00:14:00.000 They all did that.

00:14:01.000 None of them have taken their tweets down.

00:14:03.000 And literally everyone who reported on that like it was true and refused to report on the Hunter Biden laptop story, because you have to remember, they all came out and said they would not report on it.

00:14:12.000 And here's why.

00:14:13.000 NPR, CBS, New York Times, all the rest of them, they all ended up with egg on their faces.

00:14:17.000 And it was all Natasha Bertrand's fault.

00:14:19.000 Okay, so speaking of egg on the face, here's my question.

00:14:22.000 So we saw Trump basically, you know, metaphorically give the middle finger both to the like neocon regime change side of the influencer sphere and to the anti-Israel isolationist side and do his own thing, which kind of split the difference and said, look, we're going to protect our people, but we're not going to war.

00:14:41.000 We're not doing regime change.

00:14:43.000 After the peace deal was signed or whatever, the ceasefire came into effect, suddenly you had both the isolationists and the neocons coming out and being like, thank God he pulled it off.

00:14:57.000 Thank God I wasn't wrong.

00:14:59.000 We were worried.

00:15:00.000 We were worried.

00:15:01.000 We didn't abandon him.

00:15:02.000 We weren't against him.

00:15:04.000 Thank God.

00:15:05.000 Like they're all trying to act like they hadn't actually done what they had done, which is like completely come out against his agenda.

00:15:12.000 What do you guys think of that?

00:15:13.000 His agenda in which regard?

00:15:15.000 Like, okay, the isolationists wanted him to do nothing.

00:15:19.000 And then you want him to do nothing.

00:15:21.000 I also was not, I was not in favor initially of the strikes.

00:15:23.000 I was too worried about our service members in the area.

00:15:26.000 Thank God.

00:15:27.000 Nothing happened to them.

00:15:28.000 But they wanted him to tell the Israelis you're on your own, like not even give them refueling assistance and intelligence assistance.

00:15:35.000 And then the neocons wanted like full-on regime change, you know?

00:15:38.000 And when Bhutan Graham, when it became clear that wasn't going to happen, like they started to get agitated and be like, oh my gosh, I can't believe we're going to leave this hanging.

00:15:45.000 Like this is our one opportunity, blah, blah, blah.

00:15:48.000 But now that the dust has settled, both sides are trying to be like, I'm not unhappy.

00:15:53.000 I was never angry.

00:15:54.000 Me?

00:15:54.000 What?

00:15:55.000 Me?

00:15:55.000 I'm thrilled with how this, this is how I would have want, you know, like there's this weird, like, I think because they realized that like 80% of Republicans were like, oh no, this is exactly what we want.

00:16:04.000 Like this is the peace to strength that we voted for.

00:16:06.000 But do you think people are going to have this feeling of like there's going to be like a lingering, like a patina of betrayal on the people who turned on him and who came out against him?

00:16:17.000 Or you think they'll just get immediately reabsorbed into it?

00:16:20.000 I think it gets reabsorbed, but it really does depend on if this holds.

00:16:24.000 And I hope it does.

00:16:25.000 You know, I was talking to Dave Smith earlier, and he's very, very Israel critical of Israel.

00:16:31.000 Very much doesn't want to be involved in these foreign wars and all that.

00:16:35.000 And he had a reasonable take.

00:16:37.000 Hey, if this ceasefire holds, then I'm happy.

00:16:40.000 Like, I'm happy to be wrong.

00:16:41.000 Like, nobody wants to be, no sane person wants to be like, I'd rather be right.

00:16:46.000 It's like, oh, you want the entire region to destabilize now as you can say, told you so.

00:16:49.000 So did he redact his apology for voting for Trump?

00:16:53.000 Dave sort of did.

00:16:54.000 Did he?

00:16:55.000 He said, you know, everybody's saying, well, here's what he did.

00:16:58.000 I asked him, you voted for Trump.

00:17:00.000 He says, yes, I said, do you regret it?

00:17:00.000 And he goes, everybody's mad because I said I regretted it.

00:17:04.000 But, you know, what I'm saying now is I voted for the guy and where we are is where we are.

00:17:09.000 And so I think, you know, not remembering literally every word that he said, his general, the general idea was Trump didn't do the worst thing that everyone thought was going to happen.

00:17:20.000 Everybody thought this was the moment of great betrayal.

00:17:23.000 It seems like Trump was trying to take the minimalist approach.

00:17:28.000 The neoconservation screaming, but they're going to get a nuke.

00:17:30.000 The anti-interventionists are saying, don't get involved at all.

00:17:31.000 And he's like, we'll bomb those sites and then we're done.

00:17:34.000 That's why he got super pissed this morning and said, you know, they don't know what the F they're doing because he doesn't want.

00:17:43.000 I told him, Dave, I hope Trump takes away from this.

00:17:47.000 You cannot win this.

00:17:49.000 You're going to piss off tons of people no matter what you do.

00:17:54.000 So I hope Trump's takeaway from this was don't listen to the regime change people. 0.70

00:17:59.000 Don't listen to the people saying literally do nothing.

00:18:01.000 You did the minimum and now everyone can be happy with their vanilla pudding.

00:18:05.000 To answer the question about Dave, I think Dave is kind of happy with his vanilla pudding.

00:18:10.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:10.000 Like, okay, I was pissed, but now I'm not so mad because we may get away from this without this being as bad as I thought, which actually means Trump is a pretty good president.

00:18:19.000 So there's this quote from J.D. Vance.

00:18:20.000 He gave this great talk at the Quincy Institute, I think it's called, in 2024 in May.

00:18:27.000 So I guess it was kind of right before he became, was that convention in August?

00:18:31.000 He did in July, I think.

00:18:33.000 And it's a really great talk, and he explains, like, basically from his point of view, like what a foreign policy designed to protect the interests of the middle class would look like.

00:18:44.000 And he said, it is obvious that our foreign policy should be designed around the recognition that the moral intuitions that matter are the moral intuitions of the American citizens.

00:18:59.000 And I think that is so accurate and so true and just inherently a moral, correct way to see what a nation's foreign policy should look like.

00:19:08.000 It should reflect the moral intuitions of the citizenry.

00:19:11.000 It happens to be.

00:19:12.000 A lot of people in the isolationist camp do not want to admit it, but the moral intuitions of the American people, the majority of the American people, if not the vast majority of the American people, are very closely aligned with Israel.

00:19:25.000 Like that is, you stop a normie American and their moral intuitions are pretty aligned with the idea of having a strong, pretty independent, sovereign ally in the region who fights people who hate us, you know?

00:19:39.000 And I think that's kind of where the isolationists went a little too far is in doubting, A, that Trump knew his base, and B, that he could pull off something like this.

00:19:49.000 And C, in doubting that the base should have their desires enacted in their former way.

00:19:56.000 But I think this is changing.

00:19:57.000 I think Israel's support is gone in 10 or 20 years.

00:20:01.000 Why do you think that?

00:20:02.000 Yeah, why do you think that?

00:20:04.000 Let's use this story as a launching point.

00:20:06.000 It does seem like a hard sell because we do have a lot.

00:20:09.000 We normally line all the stories up and we have a lot to talk about with the war.

00:20:12.000 But we got the story from Fox News.

00:20:15.000 Chicago Tribune warns New York to avoid socialist mayoral candidate after mistake Brandon Johnson.

00:20:21.000 That's right, ladies and gentlemen.

00:20:22.000 New York is having a Democratic primary, and this Zoran Mamdani is, I believe he's a Democratic socialist, yes?

00:20:29.000 Correct.

00:20:30.000 Yes.

00:20:30.000 He's also, I don't want to, I don't speak out of turn, but my understanding is he's anti-Israel.

00:20:36.000 Very fair.

00:20:37.000 It's fair to say.

00:20:38.000 Okay.

00:20:39.000 Fair to say, is it fair to, but would you characterize it more strongly than that, Elad?

00:20:44.000 No, I think anti-Israel is fair. 1.00

00:20:46.000 I think he, what's become a big deal in New York and around Israel specifically is that within many of the anti-Israel protests in the city, they chant to globalize the so-called intifada.

00:20:58.000 Some people view that as a tepid call for violence against Jews.

00:21:01.000 He came out in support, as I understand, of the phrase.

00:21:05.000 He wouldn't condemn it.

00:21:07.000 I think he said something along the lines of there being like legitimate usage of the phrase, and it depends how you interpret it.

00:21:12.000 So before we get into all the nuances of what's going on in New York, the fact that this guy is now in, you know, his polls are improving.

00:21:21.000 The prediction markets have him heavily favored to win the primary.

00:21:25.000 This is an example of the political motivation on the ground.

00:21:28.000 Young people skew anti-Israel. 0.59

00:21:31.000 We are seeing Pew has research that came out showing that among Democrats and Republicans, Republicans 18 to 49 are now 50 percent anti-Israel, critical of Israel.

00:21:42.000 Democrats are like that.

00:21:45.000 I mean, we're pressing.

00:21:46.000 Well, let me pull it up.

00:21:47.000 I'm a couple of years ago.

00:21:49.000 I think, this is what I think.

00:21:50.000 I think young people on the left have always hated Israel.

00:21:53.000 And on the right, I think young people are sick of funding other countries, which is legitimate.

00:21:57.000 Like, I'm sick of, I don't, I think funding for Israel, it's kind of like really like ran its course.

00:22:03.000 You know, like, they're not anti-Israel.

00:22:04.000 They're socialists, and Israel is right-wing coded. 0.62

00:22:09.000 And as a result, they hate Israel.

00:22:11.000 So just to clarify, negative, unfavorable view of Israel.

00:22:15.000 Percent.

00:22:16.000 And so in 2022, 18 to 49-year-olds were 35%.

00:22:19.000 2025, they're now 15%.

00:22:21.000 That's Republicans.

00:22:22.000 Among Democrats, 18 to 49 went 62 unfavorable to 71 unfavorable.

00:22:27.000 Yeah, but you don't think that when the war in Gaza ends, like that'll, that'll, that'll, I mean, that's reflected of a very negative.

00:22:33.000 I think Israel has some of the piss poorest PR I've ever seen.

00:22:39.000 China's got better PR.

00:22:41.000 China has pretty good PR.

00:22:43.000 It's pretty good.

00:22:43.000 Look what they do with TikTok.

00:22:45.000 And they get, who is it, James Charles or whatever that guy's name is, saying like, oh no, they're taking my TikTok from me, but Trump saved me.

00:22:51.000 I'm like, they know how to run a PSYOP.

00:22:56.000 It's funny because you got these people who think Israel controls the world.

00:22:59.000 And I'm like, for all the stereotypes about being sneaky Jews, they can't seem to muster up any degree of support among young people. 0.88

00:23:06.000 So right now, based on the split between Democrats and Republicans, the principal voting blocks in this country being, that's just it, majority negative.

00:23:13.000 Half of Republican in 18 to 49 are negative.

00:23:16.000 To be fair, 50 plus, a large voting block are very positive.

00:23:19.000 Only 23 are unfavorable.

00:23:21.000 Democrats, 50 plus are 66%.

00:23:24.000 We're looking at a majority among all youth adults, 53% unfavorable view of Israel.

00:23:31.000 This trend is growing.

00:23:32.000 I don't think even when the war ends, that's going to change.

00:23:36.000 And I'll give you a really good reason, TikTok being one of them.

00:23:38.000 After October 7th, we went over this with Axios.

00:23:42.000 We pulled up the Axios data 800 million times.

00:23:44.000 So I'm not going to pull it up right now, but we saw that the content that was getting the most views, there was a small amount of posts talking about how Israel had been victimized that got a large amount of play.

00:23:58.000 Pro-Palestine, small.

00:24:00.000 A week later, a week later, it inverted 10X.

00:24:04.000 Now all of a sudden, anti-Israel were getting way more views, like hundreds of thousands, more, millions more, than pro-Israel sentiment, which was indicative of an algorithmic change because it makes no sense that over a weekend, it just flips.

00:24:20.000 Now, this could be the result of TikTok internally saying, we want people to hate Israel and clicking a button, or it could be that Islamic Nations said to their cyber armies, we want 100 guys each running 1,000, you know, 100 accounts each, going on TikTok and posting anti-Israel sentiment to force the algorithmic switch. 0.54

00:24:41.000 Either way, within a week, the sentiment inverted.

00:24:44.000 Israel's not done anything to combat this.

00:24:47.000 And the sentiment is only getting worse.

00:24:50.000 Prominent conservative personalities are getting millions of views when they're critical of Israel.

00:24:55.000 And whether you want to call it legitimate or not does not matter.

00:24:58.000 Young people, you see that video of the woman who gets pulled over for the DUI?

00:25:02.000 The cop walks up to her and then she's drunk and she goes, well, she allegedly is drunk.

00:25:07.000 And she goes, did you know there's a genocide in Palestine?

00:25:10.000 And the cop's like, what?

00:25:13.000 It's so wired into the minds of these young people because they're getting spam blasted with it that she blurts it out to a random cop at a stop.

00:25:22.000 Israel does not have anything. 0.98

00:25:24.000 Let me tell you, the people that I see on social media that are pro-Israel are, there's an overlap between the DeSantis people and them, and everyone finds them insufferable.

00:25:36.000 Not literally every single person who's pro-Israel.

00:25:38.000 Some of them totally fine.

00:25:39.000 I'm friends with a lot of them.

00:25:40.000 But a lot of these posts are just smarmy and snide.

00:25:45.000 Meanwhile, I don't have to name any, but you guys can, but there's a ton of prominent personalities on the conservative side who have recently come out as Israel is not doing us any favors to Israel is secretly controlling this country and they're evil.

00:25:59.000 And they're getting Millions upon millions of views.

00:26:01.000 Their subscriber bases are growing.

00:26:02.000 They're making tons of money.

00:26:04.000 I don't see a reason why that trend would change.

00:26:06.000 Well, it used to, this is another place where the far right and the far left converge, right, is on hating Israel.

00:26:12.000 And also, being pro-Jew and pro-Israel used to be a leftist position.

00:26:16.000 And like other leftist positions, the left has totally abandoned it along with, you know, free speech and workers' rights and all kinds of other stuff.

00:26:25.000 How much of this do you think is a function of them hating Israel or downstream from the base of the Democrat Party becoming leftists and as a result of Israel?

00:26:34.000 Why are they becoming leftists?

00:26:36.000 That's where the base of the party is.

00:26:37.000 Why?

00:26:37.000 I mean, that's a good question.

00:26:38.000 But as far as I don't think it's because of Israel that they're becoming leftists, though, and I think it's downstream.

00:26:44.000 No, but they're intertwined.

00:26:45.000 So when you say the base of the party is leftist and they hate Israel, the function of what is causing that is the exact same thing.

00:26:51.000 Well, I guess I wanted to focus on the framework of why the left hates Israel.

00:26:56.000 And I mentioned earlier it's because it's right-wing coded, but also because it's white-coated.

00:27:00.000 And the left does think.

00:27:01.000 Wait, so if I could finish.

00:27:03.000 That's right. 0.98

00:27:04.000 The left views Israel as white oppressors oppressing brown people. 0.97

00:27:08.000 And that's why they are trying. 0.98

00:27:11.000 That's why they try to have an affinity for black people. 0.95

00:27:14.000 That's how they try to appeal to black people by saying, hey, look, you guys are oppressed by white people here. 0.60

00:27:19.000 I get all that.

00:27:20.000 So that's why I think they respect.

00:27:22.000 That makes no sense.

00:27:23.000 Which part isn't?

00:27:24.000 If you were actually to apply critical theory and you actually were trying to say that we're on the side of the oppressed, you'd be pro-Israel. 0.97

00:27:31.000 It depends on your narrative and framework.

00:27:32.000 I mean, I don't disagree with you on principle.

00:27:34.000 And that's exactly the point.

00:27:34.000 If you were actually looking at...

00:27:52.000 And they say the one small ethnic minority surrounded by 2 billion Muslims is the oppressor. 0.98

00:27:58.000 But that's because I think Americans like to reject our points.

00:28:02.000 The point is they believe these things not because there's a logic behind them, but because they are told to believe them by PSYOPS and PR campaigns.

00:28:12.000 And people, so here's what I genuinely think about a lot of the anti-Israel sentiment.

00:28:17.000 They're bots.

00:28:19.000 Not all of them.

00:28:19.000 Pakistan, I mean.

00:28:20.000 Not all of them.

00:28:21.000 But you know what I love?

00:28:22.000 You know what I love?

00:28:24.000 Okay, I've explained, I shouldn't even caveat this.

00:28:28.000 The way bots work.

00:28:29.000 Not all accounts are bots.

00:28:31.000 You're allowed to not like Israel, but there are a lot of bots.

00:28:34.000 There's a distinction here.

00:28:36.000 When someone is running a bot campaign, these are limited, low-functioning AI auto poster bots.

00:28:43.000 They can only respond in certain ways to certain things.

00:28:46.000 What tends to happen is someone will say, we want, let's just say pancakes and waffles.

00:28:52.000 We'll isolate it.

00:28:53.000 We want somebody who hates waffles to be spam blasted until they genuinely believe everybody likes pancakes.

00:29:03.000 Why does the left believe they're on the right side of history?

00:29:06.000 Because they open their social media app and they see a video of a thousand protesters in the street and it looks like this massive gathering.

00:29:12.000 It looks like the whole world is watching.

00:29:14.000 And it's a thousand people in a city of 13 million.

00:29:17.000 But in their minds, they can't comprehend that.

00:29:20.000 So what the bots do is they'll see a lot, go on X and say, you know, I had a waffle today.

00:29:26.000 It was pretty good.

00:29:27.000 And then they'll say, oh man, we're the pancake company.

00:29:31.000 Put his account, list it under pro waffle.

00:29:34.000 Anytime he posts anything about breakfast, attack him and say he's a waffle shill, Shabos waffle, whatever.

00:29:42.000 But here's the thing.

00:29:43.000 A minute later, Elod then posts, I actually don't like waffles at all.

00:29:48.000 I think they're gross.

00:29:49.000 But you know what?

00:29:50.000 That waffle was okay.

00:29:51.000 I'm going to stick to pancakes.

00:29:53.000 The people who set up these campaigns don't realize there's nuance in his position, and he was only passively supporting it one time.

00:30:00.000 From then on, every time Elod posts waffles are bad, he gets attacked by people saying, waffles are bad.

00:30:07.000 And you're like, whoa, whoa, wait, hold on.

00:30:08.000 So here's the real world example.

00:30:10.000 I will post the U.S. should not be funding Israel.

00:30:13.000 And what do I get?

00:30:14.000 300 responses saying, why are you supporting Israel?

00:30:18.000 Hold on there a minute.

00:30:19.000 That doesn't make sense.

00:30:20.000 These people are not real.

00:30:21.000 Their images are AI generated or cartoon avatars.

00:30:24.000 And I know they're fake and they're not a real person.

00:30:26.000 It's not even a person typing the message.

00:30:28.000 They'll say, aha, did Netanyahu.

00:30:30.000 I swear to God, I'll say, I am sick of the U.S. being involved in Middle Eastern wars.

00:30:34.000 We shouldn't be funding Israel. 0.98

00:30:35.000 Israel should take care of themselves. 0.99

00:30:36.000 And I'll get a message saying, did Netanyahu pay you to say that?

00:30:40.000 And I'm like, what?

00:30:42.000 I get messages like that.

00:30:43.000 Like, because you met with Netanyahu, it's like, oh, what did Tim tell you?

00:30:48.000 You're not allowed to say this, blah, blah, blah.

00:30:51.000 Can't make a distinction between nuance. 0.97

00:30:54.000 So I post an Israeli flag as a troll. 0.89

00:30:57.000 They put me in the pro-Israel camp because they can't understand that I'm screwing with them.

00:31:01.000 And now anytime I say anything critical of Israel, I get blasted by both pro- and anti-Israel every time because they're bot campaigns.

00:31:09.000 So here's what happens.

00:31:11.000 If you're, there have been people that have been affected by this.

00:31:15.000 There's a person who's like a fitness instructor and their YouTube channel is a bunch of fitness videos, not very big.

00:31:21.000 Here's how we do push-ups, whatever, I don't know.

00:31:23.000 One day, October 7th happens, and they make a video saying, you know, I've been getting a lot of messages from people asking me what my thoughts are on what's going on in Israel.

00:31:31.000 And to be honest, like, I don't really know a whole lot about it, but I know that's deeply affected a lot of you.

00:31:35.000 And I know I have a lot of fans that are deeply concerned about this.

00:31:37.000 So I thought I'd make a video addressing it.

00:31:39.000 They go from getting 10,000 views to 50,000.

00:31:42.000 And so then they just talk about it all the time.

00:31:44.000 They come back to their channel and they go, whoa, I got 50,000 views for talking about Israel.

00:31:48.000 Then they look at the comments.

00:31:49.000 The comments say, this is a really great video.

00:31:50.000 You're amazing.

00:31:51.000 Can you make more?

00:31:53.000 They do.

00:31:53.000 Then he makes a video where he's like, you know, I don't really know if it's a genocide or what you'd call it, but I know that it's deeply passionate.

00:32:00.000 Then the comments are all saying genocide, genocide, genocide, genocide, genocide.

00:32:03.000 So then he makes a video saying, I think it might be a genocide.

00:32:08.000 And then all of a sudden, he gets a million views.

00:32:11.000 So not that every single time this happens, it's bots.

00:32:15.000 But my point is there are SIAP campaigns that do this.

00:32:19.000 There are a lot of people that are critical of Israel.

00:32:21.000 I've met them.

00:32:22.000 They exist.

00:32:23.000 But Israel isn't doing anything to counter any of it.

00:32:27.000 Any of it.

00:32:28.000 So my prediction is 10 years from now, the 49-year-olds are going to be 59 and they'll be out of that demo.

00:32:35.000 Eight-year-olds now are growing up with young women getting pulled over by cops and saying, Did you know there's a genocide in Palestine?

00:32:42.000 It is the branding.

00:32:43.000 Listen, listen, I don't care what she says.

00:32:46.000 What if the cop pulled her over and trolled the window and she was like, If you need a cash settlement and you want to get paid or whatever that song is, if you have a structured settlement, you need cash now.

00:32:55.000 I'd be like, Right.

00:32:57.000 I'd be like, that's branding.

00:32:59.000 The fact that this drunk lady, allegedly, can just blurt it out means she doesn't know anything about anything, but in her brain, that's something she's memorized. 1.00

00:33:08.000 So what happens when a kid grows up watching TikTok and Instagram shorts and YouTube shorts, and that's all they see?

00:33:14.000 And Israel does nothing in terms of any kind of PR?

00:33:18.000 Okay, 10, 10 years from now, that 53, minus 53 will be minus 60. And that's when Congress says we vote to defund Israel.

00:33:27.000 But I think, okay, first of all, I think that there is a kind of like the current thing aspect to it, you know, like the left does tend to move from one thing to the next.

00:33:38.000 Agreed.

00:33:39.000 It just happens to be that this is a global thing, and the war is still ongoing for reasons we can talk about, none of them good.

00:33:46.000 So like it is a thing that has, you know, like legitimate criticism attached to it that is global and happened to have been the current thing.

00:33:54.000 And also, I think Israel is making a lot of friends in the Middle East.

00:33:58.000 Like it's becoming much less dependent on U.S. largesse.

00:34:03.000 We're going to end up at a situation, possibly, I don't think so, I think these numbers will improve for Israel, but we're going to end up in a situation where the U.S., for its own strategic purposes, wants to be giving that money more than Israel wants to be taking it because it has local friends, possibly Saudi Arabia, currently the UAE, et cetera, who are more than happy to enter into that kind of relationship and have that kind of intelligence sharing, et cetera.

00:34:26.000 So I don't look at this as a pro-Israel person and feel like terror.

00:34:30.000 I feel like, you know, I have a lot of trust in the American people, the moral intuitions of the American people, the greatest people on planet Earth, and they will arrive at the right situation.

00:34:39.000 But I don't think that this is like the current geopolitical situation that Israel is in is significant.

00:34:46.000 It's not.

00:34:47.000 Perception is reality.

00:34:49.000 And right now on social media, name a prominent conservative with a big following that's grown substantially, that is pro-Israel, that is advocating for strikes on Iran in favor of Israel.

00:35:06.000 I mean, literally the inverse of what we see with prominent conservatives who have massive followings and get 12 million views.

00:35:12.000 But didn't we just see in the last two weeks that their influence is like null and void?

00:35:17.000 Like it doesn't matter how many Twitter polls they put up and when, like, actually, the American people supported what President Trump did.

00:35:25.000 Well, I mean, the real polls show that what he did was wildly popular.

00:35:29.000 What polls?

00:35:31.000 Well, 76% of GOP voters approved of it.

00:35:34.000 65% approved.

00:35:36.000 That same poll you just cited says the overall American public, it's minus 11. But 80% of Americans oppose Iran getting a nuclear deal.

00:35:44.000 But they don't support military strikes.

00:35:46.000 They don't support Trump.

00:35:47.000 They don't support anything he does.

00:35:48.000 But they 80%.

00:35:50.000 The average person?

00:35:51.000 Trump's approval rating is actually really good right now.

00:35:53.000 Yeah, but the average Democrat who's part of this 80% who wants Iran not to have a nuclear weapon is going to oppose whatever Trump does to make their wishes come true because they're going to oppose whatever Trump does, period.

00:36:03.000 Well, not just that, but the disapproval that Trump has in the GOP for the strikes in Iran is slightly higher than his general disapproval in the party, suggesting more Republicans. 0.98

00:36:12.000 we just see that the influencers have no influence?

00:36:14.000 Like, all of these anti-final influencers were not able to influence, like, Trump's actions or...

00:36:21.000 That's why we didn't invade.

00:36:23.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:36:23.000 You don't think that. 0.87

00:36:24.000 What do you mean?

00:36:26.000 Trump met with Steve Bennon.

00:36:27.000 Why did Trump meet with Steve Bannon?

00:36:33.000 Like they were reaching out to influencers to be like, we hear you.

00:36:37.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:38.000 Wouldn't that suggest that there wasn't actually listening to us?

00:36:41.000 They had a delayed lunch.

00:36:42.000 Like Bannon had, they had a previous.

00:36:44.000 Trump would never have done regime change.

00:36:46.000 It's like against everything he believes in.

00:36:49.000 I think that if the entirety of his base was screaming for regime change, he'd do it.

00:36:54.000 No.

00:36:55.000 Troops on the ground, he was calling people in 2004.

00:36:57.000 I think regime change and troops on the ground.

00:36:59.000 It's pissed.

00:37:00.000 It doesn't have to be.

00:37:01.000 Let me rephrase that.

00:37:02.000 I think if the entirety of Trump's base said, we want escalation, we want more action, Trump would have said, okay.

00:37:09.000 He would have thought about it, but he should have.

00:37:11.000 I mean, that's how democracy is supposed to work, right?

00:37:13.000 The fact is the majority of his base didn't want it, despite the fact that all of the influencers were pushing Trump not to get involved, not to drop these bombs, not to assist Israel.

00:37:23.000 But they were irrelevant in this story.

00:37:25.000 Isn't that not what we just saw?

00:37:27.000 Like the irrelevant.

00:37:28.000 Yeah, but I think the influencers had influence.

00:37:31.000 I think the reason Trump's frustrated and wants a ceasefire and he wants limited interaction is because he knows that he's got these intelligence reports saying, do it or you have to.

00:37:40.000 But then he's got his base screaming, we don't want this, and he's stuck between them.

00:37:44.000 I don't think that's true.

00:37:48.000 Although we like to say mainstream media has completely lost their influence, I think Fox News probably has more viewers than Twitter does have active followers on certain times.

00:37:58.000 Twitter is just completely filled with foreign influence campaigns.

00:38:02.000 And it seems as though a lot of people who had a lot of different jobs have all of a sudden become Middle Eastern experts.

00:38:08.000 I know people who used to be comedians who had not many people show up to their shows seem to get millions of impressions right now on Twitter as a result of this, as a result of their commentary on stuff they actually know next to nothing about.

00:38:19.000 I do agree with you, though, that Israel in the future, they're losing support from Democrats, but that's the reason why I think it's going to become a partisan issue.

00:38:26.000 And I think one of the biggest threats to Israel is one of the biggest threats to America as well. 0.72

00:38:31.000 And what is that?

00:38:31.000 It's socialism and socialists in our country.

00:38:34.000 So I think the support for Israel drops when socialism becomes popular in our country.

00:38:39.000 So Israel and really America do have the same biggest threat. 0.80

00:38:42.000 And that's.

00:38:44.000 Let's just conclude this.

00:38:46.000 Would y'all agree that there is a large amount of individuals on social media that are profiting off of being anti-Israel?

00:38:55.000 Of course.

00:38:56.000 Yeah, but I don't think they're having any impact for any influence, despite being called influencers.

00:39:00.000 I think they're getting a lot of likes from Pakistan.

00:39:02.000 Yeah, or from like 2 billion Muslims who are desperate for likes. 1.00

00:39:06.000 So not Americans. 0.97

00:39:07.000 What did an American version of these social media ask?

00:39:10.000 How does the left recruit for these protests? 0.75

00:39:14.000 How do they have so many young people showing up?

00:39:16.000 And why does some random woman getting pulled over a cop say? 1.00

00:39:20.000 How many people do you think have protested against Israel in America since the beginning of the Gaza thing?

00:39:24.000 Like, what's a number you think would— You think that's a lot?

00:39:28.000 I think that's very little.

00:39:29.000 For protests, it's probably like low mid.

00:39:31.000 Over the course of two years, I think that's very little.

00:39:34.000 I would call that low mid.

00:39:35.000 And when you compare it to what's going on in like Canada or the UK, where you have like millions of people.

00:39:41.000 But this is not the question I'm asking.

00:39:42.000 I'm asking about a trend direction.

00:39:44.000 Why are people who don't know anything about the region all of a sudden violent and fervent over it?

00:39:49.000 No, I totally agree with your analysis of people being like captured by the algorithm.

00:39:55.000 And so what is it?

00:39:56.000 And then what is anyone, be it AIPAC, Israel, or the U.S. or pro-Israel groups, doing to combat this?

00:40:03.000 But I don't know that something has to be done.

00:40:04.000 That's what I'm trying to say.

00:40:05.000 It's like, I don't really care that there's a bunch of like people being captured by the algorithm making money off of this content and being viewed by a bunch of people in Pakistan or what have you.

00:40:14.000 Like I don't know that this is like a crisis.

00:40:15.000 So why do you think over three years sentiment has shifted 11 points negatively for Israel?

00:40:21.000 We've had a violent war.

00:40:23.000 Well, a war has two parties in it.

00:40:25.000 Couldn't that have shifted negatively for the Palestinians?

00:40:28.000 So again, I think you have to, the why, you have to separate why it's happening on the left and why it's happening on the right.

00:40:33.000 It's happening on the left because as Alad said, the center of gravity of the Democratic Party has turned against Israel.

00:40:40.000 Why the right?

00:40:41.000 So that's a totally different question.

00:40:42.000 So why are young conservatives, and I think a lot of this has to do with- I think it's overstated on the right, completely overstated, and I think it's because many people who are not truly MAGA appropriate MAGA.

00:40:53.000 So for example, a lot of these isolationists or libertarian types aren't truly MAGA.

00:40:59.000 And President Trump even says of people like Thomas Massey, Congressman Thomas Massey, who's been a very good person.

00:41:03.000 You just interrupted Batia, though.

00:41:05.000 So like, I can interrupt you.

00:41:07.000 That was literally what I was thinking.

00:41:08.000 Also, I don't know any of that.

00:41:09.000 Oh, thanks for letting me.

00:41:10.000 No.

00:41:11.000 Actually, I know one.

00:41:12.000 So my point here specifically, President Trump put out this truth where he said Congressman Thomas Massey of Kentucky is not MAGA, even though he likes to say he is.

00:41:19.000 I think that's true of many libertarian leading types who aren't truly MAGA.

00:41:23.000 About what part?

00:41:24.000 He's wrong about Thomas Massey.

00:41:25.000 I don't think that he's not MAGA.

00:41:27.000 Well, you can call whoever you want not MAGA, but he's wrong about Thomas Massey in terms of Massey's support and his principles.

00:41:33.000 Well, I think he's spot on that Thomas Massey is a grandstander that votes with the Democrats, especially at a time like this. 0.93

00:41:39.000 It's frankly ridiculous. 0.85

00:41:40.000 He's anti-MAGA agenda. 0.96

00:41:42.000 How is that wrong?

00:41:42.000 He's posturing against Thomas Massey.

00:41:44.000 He's posturing against the one being principled.

00:41:46.000 I haven't touched the word in like half an hour.

00:41:48.000 What are you talking about?

00:41:49.000 All right, so interrupt me mid-sentence.

00:41:50.000 Bro, don't talk.

00:41:52.000 Thomas Massey's record speaks for itself.

00:41:54.000 Yeah, he's voting against the one big, beautiful bill.

00:41:57.000 And he voted against COVID funding.

00:41:59.000 So I think he's anti-MAGA agenda because he's voting against the One Big Beautiful Bill.

00:42:04.000 And I think that's clear-cut and obvious.

00:42:13.000 Trump can call anybody he wants not MAGA.

00:42:15.000 It's his brand.

00:42:16.000 Is Thomas Massey wrong for voting against the One Big Beautiful Bill?

00:42:19.000 Yes.

00:42:19.000 Okay, there we go.

00:42:20.000 Indeed.

00:42:21.000 And I like Thomas Massey.

00:42:23.000 I think he's the best member of Congress we have right now, even though I disagree with him.

00:42:27.000 Rand Paul also said he would vote against the Big Beautiful Bill.

00:42:30.000 However, he did concede if it came down to him as a deciding vote, he would vote in favor of it.

00:42:34.000 And I tremendously respect that because I think Rand Paul and Thomas Massey are two of the most principled people we have in Congress.

00:42:40.000 I wish we had more people like them.

00:42:41.000 I wish everybody was like them, even when they're wrong.

00:42:44.000 So I think Congress is where you go to, frankly, compromise.

00:42:48.000 You know, if you want to get anything done in Congress, you're going to have to compromise.

00:42:52.000 And that's why President Trump calls him a grandstander.

00:42:55.000 I think if Massey is doing what his constituents want, then he's doing the right thing.

00:43:00.000 I think it's anti-MAGA.

00:43:01.000 It doesn't matter, though.

00:43:02.000 I mean, the only thing that's happening.

00:43:03.000 President Trump thinks it's anti-MAGA.

00:43:05.000 You guys need to go before the show started to show you anti-MAGA.

00:43:09.000 A lot is correct.

00:43:10.000 Trump decides what's MAGA or not.

00:43:13.000 He does.

00:43:13.000 It's his brand.

00:43:14.000 It's his slogan.

00:43:15.000 It's his agenda.

00:43:16.000 And if he says Massey's not MAGA, then Massey's not MAGA.

00:43:19.000 There should be like a little Cosmo quizzer for like Massey is weak, ineffective, and votes no on virtually everything put before him, no matter how good it may be.

00:43:30.000 So, I mean, I think Donald Trump is really spot on here.

00:43:32.000 And he says that he wants to.

00:43:34.000 His guys put together a super PAC to get Massey out. 0.94

00:43:37.000 I don't think it'll work.

00:43:38.000 Well, I think it's a message to these Republicans who aren't falling in line with the MAGA agenda.

00:43:42.000 And I think it's important for Republicans to fall in line with the MAGA agenda because Donald Trump won the majority of the votes in the past election, right?

00:43:50.000 I thought he had, what was this, this mandate, right?

00:43:52.000 Well, apparently Thomas Massey disagrees.

00:43:55.000 Or his constituents disagree.

00:43:56.000 He's the one who's voting.

00:43:57.000 I don't know.

00:43:59.000 So let's just, let's just, let's just put a bow on this.

00:44:02.000 We'll put a bow on the subject.

00:44:04.000 Did I just close that poll?

00:44:07.000 So my question is, final thoughts on this so we can move on, but what changes the course of this polling?

00:44:16.000 What will happen where people go, actually, I was wrong.

00:44:20.000 I don't dislike Israel.

00:44:21.000 I like Israel.

00:44:22.000 What will change?

00:44:23.000 Fighting back against socialism in our country.

00:44:25.000 Or the next or the next testy.

00:44:28.000 I think fighting against the ideology of socialism and democratic socialism in our country will correlate aggressively with support for Israel in our country. 0.81

00:44:36.000 Why?

00:44:37.000 So, yes.

00:44:38.000 Because people in our country who are, these young people who are anti-Israel are leftists who believe that Israel is right-wing coded and white-coated, and that's why they hate Israel.

00:44:47.000 You're missing the big picture of someone told them that.

00:44:51.000 And if they stop being socialists, well, they'll stop looking at sociology.

00:44:54.000 So I guess the issue I take with your answer is a broad question.

00:45:01.000 There's a broad answer that's vague and nebulous, targeting a very specific issue.

00:45:06.000 So I feel like you're not answering the question.

00:45:09.000 Fight socialism and people will like Israel seems to be a non-sequitur. 0.78

00:45:14.000 No, I'm saying they're strongly correlated.

00:45:16.000 Yeah, but you've not explained how.

00:45:18.000 I don't feel like you've answered the question.

00:45:19.000 Because lefties and socialists view Israel as a country that is quote-unquote white, right-wing.

00:45:24.000 Which leaves a gap of why.

00:45:26.000 because they're told that the propaganda narrative they think that because they have a college degree Whether you've been indoctrinated three years.

00:45:35.000 In universities, you get this woke indoctrination where there's no like right versus wrong, the way like normal people think about the world.

00:45:42.000 There's just who has more power and who has less.

00:45:45.000 And then they superimpose some racial category or some gender category, what have you. 0.97

00:45:50.000 And whoever is the white person, like a lot of saying, is evil and bad.

00:45:53.000 And whoever is the person of color is oppressed and therefore inherently virtuous. 1.00

00:45:58.000 And they side with them inherently.

00:45:59.000 This is like every humanity.

00:46:00.000 So why do high school students also agree?

00:46:02.000 Because it's that that curriculum is dripping down.

00:46:05.000 Every teacher that has a lot of people in the world.

00:46:06.000 That's a critical race theory in our left.

00:46:08.000 Because the left has infested the schools of education to teach the teachers.

00:46:13.000 So all of the curriculum that the teachers learn is all leftist.

00:46:18.000 So the teachers that are teaching high school as well as college, these people all went to the same colleges of education that have a leftist indoctrination built around.

00:46:29.000 So now, the reason why I reject what you've said is your argument could actually be summarized by fighting socialism entails altering the curriculum of various schools from the bottom up through various universities, then altering social media algorithms to stop the spread of these ideas, which in a grand scale can be applied in certain ways where someone could accuse Israel of being bad.

00:46:51.000 After we do that, we'll run a campaign that would start to convince people that Israel is actually not right-coded and the arguments that they've been using on critical theory don't apply to Israel properly.

00:47:00.000 And now they're you see.

00:47:01.000 Because Tim, we're saying this is a symptom of another problem.

00:47:04.000 Like this is not a problem.

00:47:06.000 So my question is, what specific thing happens that changes the sentiment?

00:47:12.000 Transport.

00:47:12.000 I think socialism becoming unpopular in our country.

00:47:15.000 It's not an answer.

00:47:16.000 You keep saying the same thing over and over again.

00:47:17.000 What about like the next?

00:47:19.000 Well, let me tell you this.

00:47:20.000 I think that Israel will gain support if we all buy Bitcoin.

00:47:25.000 If we all just bought Bitcoin, people would support Israel. 0.88

00:47:27.000 Wait, is that, are you joking?

00:47:28.000 Yeah, I'm basically because he's not giving an answer.

00:47:31.000 Fight socialism, people like Israel. 1.00

00:47:33.000 Why?

00:47:33.000 They're not related.

00:47:34.000 I think they're completely related.

00:47:35.000 And I think the most prominent anti-Israel people are Democratic socialists and far-left people in Congress.

00:47:41.000 I don't think you have answers for this.

00:47:42.000 I have a different answer.

00:47:43.000 Oh, go ahead.

00:47:44.000 Well, what's your answer?

00:47:46.000 Oh.

00:47:46.000 Well, my answer is that support for Israel is like many other things that have become marginalized by left-wing indoctrination.

00:47:54.000 It's a normie value.

00:47:56.000 It's the kind of thing that regular people who don't have fancy degrees inherently are drawn to, like the idea that marriage is a really good idea or there's a difference between boys and girls.

00:48:05.000 You think support for Israel is like marriage?

00:48:09.000 Yeah, in the mind of like, if you would look at the polling, like the like a middle, regular middle-class American who does not, has not been influenced either by woke university curriculum or by, you know, online whatever on the far right, like it's a, it's the kind of thing that Christians in America feel very attached to, for example.

00:48:28.000 The Holy Land.

00:48:29.000 And that whole Ted Cruz thing.

00:48:31.000 And the problem with this country right now is actually not ideological so much as it is the class divide.

00:48:36.000 It's not the problem.

00:48:37.000 The problem is not so much that a certain sub-sector of Americans go to college and get a college degree and have like terrible ideas.

00:48:45.000 It's that those are the people who have access to the American dream.

00:48:48.000 And that normie people, like regular people, working class people, people who don't have access to that stream of education and those knowledge industry jobs have been in a large way economically disenfranchised in this country.

00:49:03.000 Right.

00:49:03.000 So Republicans.

00:49:04.000 So the way that you fix for that is what Trump is doing right now, which is you create an economy that instead of being an upward funnel of wealth is actually a downward funnel of wealth through things like tariffs and right.

00:49:14.000 And so why then do key demo Republicans support Israel less by 15% over three years?

00:49:21.000 You mean young people?

00:49:22.000 Well, 49-year-olds aren't young.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, well, like I said, I think this is a reflection of the war, which has been going on for three years.

00:49:28.000 Still also almost two-thirds of Republicans.

00:49:31.000 Again, my point being, it takes two to tango in a war.

00:49:36.000 So the argument that I've made is that Israel is failing at PR is correct. 1.00

00:49:40.000 Where's that Hasbro?

00:49:42.000 Yeah, of course it's failing at, but also the war is going to end at some point, and there's going to be a new next big thing.

00:49:48.000 People are going to move on from this.

00:49:49.000 It's not going to be when there's no war in Gaza. 0.51

00:49:51.000 What changes that sentiment?

00:49:53.000 When there's going to be no more.

00:49:54.000 Like the default position isn't going to be support for Israel.

00:49:56.000 People are just going to be like, the war's over and I hate Israel.

00:49:58.000 No, it's going to be like the war's over and I don't think about Israel, which is a fine thing for an American. 0.97

00:50:02.000 It's like nobody thinks about Sudan.

00:50:05.000 There was an attack on a hospital in Sudan, and the World Health Organization was really upset about it.

00:50:10.000 And it killed like 40 people.

00:50:12.000 And it was the only hospital in the area.

00:50:13.000 They killed a bunch of kids.

00:50:14.000 Let's jump to this next story, which doesn't deviate too much, but we have this from Reuters.

00:50:19.000 It's from this morning.

00:50:20.000 And it is an outdated story, but there is a component of it.

00:50:22.000 Explosions ring out in Tehran despite Trump's order to Israel to stop the strikes.

00:50:27.000 Notice the passive tense in Ring Out.

00:50:30.000 That's going to come back.

00:50:31.000 Ring Out.

00:50:32.000 Well, we have this video, which is one of the best videos of President Trump ever.

00:50:39.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:50:41.000 So I'll set it up basically this morning.

00:50:43.000 Trump says Iran and Israel both violated the ceasefire.

00:50:46.000 He then followed up with this.

00:50:47.000 The people says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement.

00:50:52.000 Do you believe that Iran is still committed to peace?

00:50:55.000 Yeah, I do.

00:50:56.000 They violated it, but Israel violated it too. 0.78

00:50:59.000 Are you questioning if Israel was going to be?

00:51:00.000 Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before.

00:51:07.000 The biggest load that we've seen.

00:51:08.000 I'm not happy with Israel. 0.99

00:51:10.000 You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them.

00:51:17.000 So I'm not happy with them.

00:51:18.000 I'm not happy with Iran either. 0.99

00:51:20.000 But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land.

00:51:29.000 I'm not happy about that.

00:51:32.000 You know what? 0.98

00:51:33.000 We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. 0.96

00:51:41.000 Do you understand that? 0.87

00:51:45.000 Legend.

00:51:48.000 Legend.

00:51:48.000 Now, the reason I brought up the Reuters post is that an hour and a half after Trump said, do not drop those bombs, Israel won't do it.

00:51:58.000 They're doing a plane wave.

00:51:59.000 The report came out that, in fact, Israel still went ahead with at least one of the strikes on a radar station in Iran in defiance of Trump saying, don't do it.

00:52:10.000 Trump was pissed and dropped an expletive, which is kind of shocking for a president.

00:52:16.000 But I love it.

00:52:16.000 I love it.

00:52:17.000 I loved the mafia tone of, do you understand?

00:52:20.000 You know, I wanted him to almost say capish.

00:52:22.000 I think Trump is, well, he's clearly pissed, but I was shocked.

00:52:30.000 And, you know, it was a coin toss for me.

00:52:31.000 Will Israel defy what Donald Trump is saying?

00:52:34.000 And they did.

00:52:36.000 So what's the ramification of that going to be?

00:52:37.000 Will Trump hold a grudge in foreign aid to Israel?

00:52:41.000 Well, basically what happened was he, after that amazing, amazing moment, got Bibi Netanyahu on the phone and was like, what is going on here?

00:52:49.000 We had a ceasefire.

00:52:50.000 And Netanyahu alleged that there were rockets shot into Israel from Iran that had to be responded to.

00:52:55.000 They had to get rid of this one last rocket launcher.

00:52:59.000 So he was going to send out a much bigger barrage.

00:53:02.000 And then after talking to Trump, he said, all right, we'll just send out the one.

00:53:05.000 They blasted the rocket launcher.

00:53:06.000 And apparently Trump was satisfied with that.

00:53:08.000 That's just the reporting that came out.

00:53:10.000 Take that as you will.

00:53:11.000 I also thought that was an amazing moment.

00:53:12.000 It was to me because he was on his way to NATO and it felt a lot like, you know, when your dad is driving like you to a wedding or something and you're fighting with your siblings in the back and like your dad's hand comes back is like, shut the F up.

00:53:26.000 Two hours.

00:53:27.000 It's an hour and 45 minutes after Trump said, don't do it.

00:53:32.000 And actually it was, I believe it was like a full two hours.

00:53:36.000 Trump posted on truth, Israel do not drop those bombs and Israel will not drop those bombs.

00:53:41.000 And they did.

00:53:42.000 Was there excuse that they were already in transit or the mission?

00:53:45.000 An hour and a half later, you could turn around at any point.

00:53:47.000 I mean, I'm not saying that they couldn't, but the point that I'm making is they might be like, oh, well, we just.

00:53:50.000 Like, we tried calling the pilot with the bombs and he's not answering.

00:53:52.000 Well, they're going to make up, they're a state.

00:53:54.000 They're going to make up all kinds of excuses as to why they couldn't.

00:53:57.000 They both violated it, both Iran and Israel. 0.97

00:53:59.000 I'm just saying, will Trump tolerate being made to look like a chump? 0.78

00:54:02.000 So I think actually President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu are on the same page and they're playing good cop, bad cop throughout this entire thing. 0.57

00:54:10.000 I think there's been intelligence sharing the entire time and they have been on the same page and have been coordinating together.

00:54:16.000 And in order to get Iran to the negotiating table, Israel's the bad guy and Trump's trying to be the good guy.

00:54:21.000 It's like 4D chess.

00:54:22.000 I don't even, I think it's like 2D chess.

00:54:24.000 It's like actually really straightforward.

00:54:26.000 It's just extremely straightforward the way he's posturing.

00:54:29.000 I think Trump has a lot of moral clarity when it comes to Israel.

00:54:34.000 I think the whole thing's been an act.

00:54:36.000 That anger, that F-bomb, they wrote it.

00:54:38.000 Not knowing about what Israel was going to do, how they were going to attack.

00:54:41.000 I think the United States has been doing intelligence sharing with Israel throughout this entire thing.

00:54:46.000 And I think Trump probably signed off on a lot of these attacks.

00:54:49.000 He just wanted the plausible deniability of not being involved until he saw that it was a success.

00:54:54.000 So the people who are like, the isolationist thinkers who are like, oh, maybe this means that Donald Trump's not going to support Israel anymore, I think are really missing the bigger picture of the people.

00:55:03.000 Of the isolationists.

00:55:05.000 Thomas Massey.

00:55:06.000 Thomas Massey types.

00:55:08.000 I don't think Thomas Massey.

00:55:08.000 Comedians on Twitter.

00:55:09.000 Is Thomas Massey an actual isolationist, or are you just saying that as an insult?

00:55:14.000 Wait, I don't think isolationist is an insult to people who believe that the United States...

00:55:22.000 You do everything you can say.

00:55:24.000 I think it's desolation.

00:55:25.000 They describe themselves as non-interventionalists, and then they're called isolationists because it's an extreme position meant to poison.

00:55:33.000 I don't mean it as a slur.

00:55:34.000 I don't know what it is.

00:55:34.000 It's poisoning the well.

00:55:37.000 It's a deceptive tactic to where I say something like, the standard of proof required for a strike on a foreign country is high.

00:55:46.000 And they say, so you're an isolationist?

00:55:48.000 No.

00:55:49.000 I think there's lots of people we can be bombing.

00:55:51.000 I'm just saying the standard of proof you need.

00:55:53.000 I'm not yourself a non-interventionalist either.

00:55:55.000 I'm anti-intervention, absolutely.

00:55:57.000 So I think the non-interventionalists were hopeful that President Trump would, you know, clean his hands of the Middle East and the United States.

00:56:02.000 I know very few people who call themselves isolationists.

00:56:06.000 The people who tend to be in favor of war refer to people who don't want their war isolationist.

00:56:12.000 So if I said something like, I understand the precision strikes on the Houthi rebels, despite the fact Trump said he wouldn't do it, I'm kind of lukewarm on the issue.

00:56:19.000 That's not isolationist.

00:56:21.000 It's like, oh, okay, they were shutting down the Red Sea.

00:56:24.000 Non-intervention in terms of boots on the ground against regimes.

00:56:29.000 If we're talking about, so I'll put it this way.

00:56:32.000 I interviewed Seb Gorka and he said, we understand the sentiment.

00:56:35.000 You don't want the U.S. military to go and start bombing all these things.

00:56:38.000 We're going to draw the line at no regime change, no invasions.

00:56:42.000 But if there is a rebel group, if there are the Houthi rebels, if there are terrorist cells, we will do precision strikes.

00:56:47.000 And I go, all right, I'm not going to bash my head on the table and scream.

00:56:52.000 No, I'm going to say we've compromised.

00:56:54.000 Isolationist is, isolationist literally refers to cutting off trade with foreign countries.

00:57:00.000 No.

00:57:00.000 Absolutely, it doesn't mean it's isolation.

00:57:02.000 But Tim, would you support, like, knowing what we know now, let's say the ceasefire holds, retrospectively, would you support the attack on Fordo?

00:57:14.000 No.

00:57:15.000 Even now?

00:57:16.000 Yes.

00:57:17.000 Do you worry about Iran getting a nuclear weapon?

00:57:22.000 60%.

00:57:24.000 I think that it's certainly not been sold to the American people.

00:57:27.000 That's why it's divisive.

00:57:29.000 So there's questions of certainly Dave Smith doesn't believe they were close to getting one, even though there are reports of it.

00:57:35.000 Do you believe they had an intention to at some point get one?

00:57:38.000 I think it is 60%, right?

00:57:42.000 Based on the evidence, I put the probability slightly greater than chance.

00:57:46.000 And what is your level of opposition to them having a nuclear weapon?

00:57:50.000 That they would give it to the Houthi rebels and other insurgent groups for dirty bombs.

00:57:54.000 Can you be comfortable with them just having one?

00:57:57.000 If Iran had a nuclear bomb, the question is, if Iran wasn't going to give fissile material to random crackpot religious extremists, which I think they would, that's the threat. 0.91

00:58:10.000 They could do that, though.

00:58:11.000 Indeed.

00:58:11.000 They could.

00:58:12.000 Of course.

00:58:13.000 And they may with the 900 pounds of fissile material they have.

00:58:15.000 So if Iran has a nuke, what is the threat?

00:58:19.000 Honest question.

00:58:20.000 It's not a gotcha.

00:58:21.000 It's not a rhetorical question.

00:58:23.000 An arms race in the Middle East between Saudi Arabia.

00:58:26.000 But why?

00:58:27.000 Saudi Arabia has said that they would see.

00:58:30.000 They say all things all the time.

00:58:32.000 Okay, so then we could, Well, you can, if you're going to ask the things that are likely, and then I'm going to say, well, these are the things that people have said, and then you said, well, I don't believe them.

00:58:40.000 There's no point in even having the conversation.

00:58:41.000 You should be like, well, I don't, I'm going to believe the arguments.

00:58:43.000 And I think the things that I want and not believe the things that I don't want, like, or the things that fit the right.

00:58:47.000 So the issue is: what is our risk assessment?

00:58:51.000 What is the risk that if we intervene with B-2 bombers and drop 14 bunker busters on a foreign country, that we drag other nations into the war and trigger the arms race itself?

00:59:03.000 Okay, so Mua Margadafi gave up his arms program.

00:59:06.000 What happened, though?

00:59:07.000 Mu'a Margadafi gave up his arms program.

00:59:09.000 Yes.

00:59:10.000 And he was assured of certain sanctions would be dropped, that the UN was going to basically allow him to start developing without obstruction.

00:59:19.000 They did not.

00:59:20.000 So what did he do?

00:59:21.000 It was somewhere around like 2009.

00:59:23.000 He said, then we're going to keep enriching uranium.

00:59:25.000 And they said, you will die now.

00:59:27.000 And so what happens?

00:59:29.000 We triggered an arms race. 0.50

00:59:30.000 Iran becomes dead set on getting a nuclear bomb because they're like, if we negotiate with you, you're going to kill us anyway. 0.96

00:59:36.000 Iran's been dead set on nuclear bomb.

00:59:37.000 Yeah, I mean, in 1995, the estimates were that they might have it in four years.

00:59:42.000 The point is when the U.S. negotiates and then kills the guy, you affirm in the minds of those people in the region why they need to have those weapons.

00:59:51.000 This is something I heard you say.

00:59:52.000 I don't think that these are mutually exclusive.

00:59:54.000 Like, it's not mutually exclusive that Trump was negotiating in good faith and also at some point became convinced that they were not and therefore green lit the operation.

01:00:06.000 Like he could have been negotiating in good faith upon the future.

01:00:10.000 So here are the questions.

01:00:11.000 Here are the questions.

01:00:14.000 Do you believe that Trump's strike on Fodo, Nanance, and Isfara succeeded?

01:00:20.000 Of course.

01:00:20.000 And that Iran will not be able now to enrich any uranium?

01:00:26.000 We don't know for how long, right?

01:00:28.000 We don't know that because we don't have boots.

01:00:29.000 Longer than a year.

01:00:30.000 Yeah.

01:00:31.000 At least a year or longer than that.

01:00:34.000 I think probably long, but I'm not like I haven't seen enough.

01:00:37.000 We don't have enough information to do.

01:00:39.000 This is at best kick.

01:00:40.000 What if it can down the road?

01:00:41.000 The real solution has to be diplomacy because, again, we could prevent them.

01:00:45.000 We could keep bombing their nuclear facilities.

01:00:46.000 But if they could bring them back up to date within six months to 12 months, then it has to be negotiations where they're saying we will shelve our ambitions to do it.

01:00:55.000 Otherwise, we're going to keep bombing them.

01:00:57.000 And then regime change becomes a serious conversation.

01:01:05.000 Right now, the argument that I should, or anyone should feel safer after they just dispersed an estimated 900 pounds of uranium to God knows where, and that's, if you want to believe the reporting, I suppose, the U.S. officials, according to the New York Times, whether we trust them or not, sometimes they lie, doesn't know where 400 kilograms of fissile material went.

01:01:27.000 And there's concerns that even J.D. Vance brought up that they enriched it to about 60%.

01:01:31.000 They can weaponize that.

01:01:33.000 Now, with the strikes on Iran, we may have potentially emboldened those crackpot groups who may actually receive those materials.

01:01:41.000 So there is a whole spattering of, we honestly don't know.

01:01:46.000 We can believe the Defense Intelligence Agency's report that the strikes didn't work.

01:01:52.000 And people are going to be like, well, why would I disagree with that?

01:01:55.000 Or they're going to say, yep, Trump's the primary source on the guy with the real briefings.

01:01:59.000 Why would he lie?

01:02:00.000 Well, maybe he's lying for political reasons because it didn't work.

01:02:03.000 The initial reporting beforehand was that bunker busters would not be able to do it.

01:02:09.000 Not only was the concern that the basis was too deep underground for a single bunker buster, even if you were to get multiple bunker busters in the same spots, which is possible, FOIA was also spread out to a great degree with multiple points of entry and egress, indicating that even if we were to take out certain parts of it, they could still operate other areas or even start rebuilding the areas that were damaged.

01:02:31.000 The IAEA says that it appears that there's a chemical spill rendering this area contaminated, which could set them back.

01:02:38.000 So the argument now is we don't know how long they're set back.

01:02:41.000 Trump says totally obliterated.

01:02:43.000 Does that mean they can't do it ever again?

01:02:44.000 Well, the answer is no, they can always start rebuilding.

01:02:47.000 And if we're not going to go with regime changing boots on the ground, they probably will.

01:02:50.000 I don't know why they'd stop.

01:02:51.000 We now know the assumption is 900 pounds of fissile material have been spread out and we don't know where they went.

01:02:57.000 So no, I don't feel safer.

01:03:00.000 I don't feel any different at all.

01:03:02.000 Now, I will say if the ceasefire holds, Trump has a tremendous victory and that he was able to bomb a foreign country targeting their nuclear sites, a key component of like the mission without triggering a dramatic escalation is a massive and historic victory for anybody who wants to take on military action. 0.60

01:03:21.000 But for the regular average person, you're going to choose what you want to believe.

01:03:25.000 They didn't have a nuclear weapon.

01:03:26.000 They did have nuclear fissile material.

01:03:28.000 They had the capabilities of arming Houthi rebels and other insurgent groups who have killed Americans and launched rockets and fought with our troops in the Middle East.

01:03:37.000 I mean, the IRC is the only one has killed American citizens.

01:03:39.000 Agreed.

01:03:41.000 And the only thing that's changed with this strike right now is that we have potentially given them a justification for why they should disperse this material among psychopaths.

01:03:55.000 And we don't know where it is.

01:03:57.000 I think that the story around the story is as important.

01:04:02.000 And for example, the fact that Russia refused to come to Iran's aid.

01:04:08.000 What you're really seeing here is Trump rewriting the entire international global relations, basically.

01:04:18.000 We would have thought that the Iranians would have held up much better against the Israelis. 1.00

01:04:22.000 They did not.

01:04:23.000 We would have thought that China or Russia would have come immediately to their aid.

01:04:28.000 They refused.

01:04:29.000 China did. 0.85

01:04:30.000 They sort of did, but they didn't in a big way.

01:04:33.000 And Russia saying, actually, we're staying out of this.

01:04:36.000 I'm going to call Donald Trump and offer to mediate this because I have a thing going with him that's going pretty good for me.

01:04:44.000 And maybe I'm going to be rejoining the West and leaving this new axis of China, Iran, Russia. 0.88

01:04:51.000 Like that Trump picked off one by one, like each of these big diplomatic trip.

01:04:59.000 And Qatar, like getting the Iranians to shoot this sort of fake, face-saving barrage into Qatar to piss off the Qataris, their only sort of pseudo-ally from that trip. 0.80

01:05:12.000 So let's just lay down some basic points.

01:05:18.000 Do you agree with the assessment that they have gotten the 400 kilograms out of nuclear facilities and we don't know where they are?

01:05:26.000 That has been reported.

01:05:28.000 I think there's a fog.

01:05:29.000 We're in fog of war.

01:05:30.000 So like I've seen reports of that.

01:05:33.000 I think a lot of the stuff is unknowable at this situation, including how long it'll take for them to regroup.

01:05:38.000 We just don't know.

01:05:39.000 But I think we've changed the conversation domestically, and I think we've changed the conversation internationally.

01:05:44.000 With the probability that despite fog of war, there is the probability based on the reporting that, and I think just general common sense, when it became clear that Trump was telling them six months out, we're going to bomb your nuclear facilities, Iran probably set up contingencies for getting their uranium out because they want to keep it. 0.83

01:06:02.000 That's like you're negotiating.

01:06:04.000 You don't leave all your money in a bag in front of the guy who's going to take it from you.

01:06:08.000 So I think there's a decent probability the uranium is gone.

01:06:12.000 It's in China.

01:06:14.000 Who knows?

01:06:15.000 16, 17 trucks were seen in a satellite image.

01:06:17.000 That's just one satellite image.

01:06:18.000 There's an airplane that came in too.

01:06:20.000 That's right.

01:06:21.000 And China sent cargo planes.

01:06:23.000 That's right.

01:06:24.000 And so with that being said, do you think that the U.S. striking Iran could anger Iranian-backed interests of any faction who may get access to that uranium? 0.79

01:06:38.000 I think these people were like psychopaths trying to build a nuclear bomb to, you know, eviscerate Israel and to hurt America.

01:06:45.000 And I don't think that this changes the calculation. 0.97

01:06:47.000 They were that before and they were probably still that.

01:06:50.000 Do you think that Iran would have launched a nuclear weapon at Israel as soon as they got it?

01:06:54.000 That's what they said.

01:06:54.000 So we could say, oh, you're lying to me.

01:06:56.000 Like, you don't really want to do that.

01:06:58.000 You really love me.

01:06:59.000 You don't need it.

01:06:59.000 But that's what they said.

01:07:00.000 They said, we want a nuclear weapon so that we can wipe Israel off the face of the planet and destroy America afterwards. 0.90

01:07:06.000 Like that, that's just their stated foreign policy objective.

01:07:10.000 So like the idea that we could anger them into being even worse than like psychopaths who want a nuclear weapon to hurt our children and to destroy our ally, Israel, like I like, I don't see that as like a real argument.

01:07:23.000 Aaron Powell, I guess the question is, were they actually close to building a nuclear weapon capable of launching it?

01:07:31.000 I don't think that's a question.

01:07:32.000 Like we had an opportunity here.

01:07:34.000 I think this is what I think happened.

01:07:35.000 I think Trump initially probably didn't want to back the Israelis, but they were so successful and met with such little resistance.

01:07:43.000 I mean, the absolute mastery of what they pulled off left him with this opportunity.

01:07:48.000 I honestly don't think it matters if the Iranians were close, if it was going to be in six months, or if it was going to be in five years.

01:07:53.000 We had an opportunity to protect our children's future.

01:07:56.000 Like you take that opportunity when you get it and to do it safely.

01:08:00.000 What risk do the U.S. have to Iran having a nuke?

01:08:05.000 The way that I think about it is Iran poses an existential threat to Israel. 0.98

01:08:09.000 It does not pose an existential threat to the United States.

01:08:12.000 It poses a strategic threat to our interests and a very, very big one.

01:08:17.000 And I think that diplomacy, I agree with a lot, is like the best way to get something like this to happen.

01:08:23.000 But I think they were stringing the president along, and I think that pissed him off.

01:08:26.000 So do you think Iran at this point will just back down and cease hostilities?

01:08:31.000 I think the Ayatollah is very weak right now.

01:08:34.000 He seems to me to have been isolated during this whole thing.

01:08:37.000 I think the regime is very weak.

01:08:39.000 I don't believe that we should be engaged in regime change.

01:08:42.000 I think probably all of us would agree it would be wonderful if the Iranian people themselves were able to find their way to a less brutal regime.

01:08:51.000 But honestly, I think what changed was, you know, this is something now we're all aware of is, you know, like, okay, like this is a conversation that we're having that we were not having before because of the Obama-era appeasement strategy that seemed to have failed.

01:09:03.000 So, yeah.

01:09:05.000 Others?

01:09:06.000 I think that was succinct.

01:09:08.000 I do think that if Iran got a nuclear weapon, they would definitely consider at least letting their proxy use it against American troops in the region so they have some plausible deniability against them. 0.64

01:09:19.000 Also, if they were to acquire a nuclear weapon, it would sort of be the ultimate insurance policy for them.

01:09:25.000 They're, you know, we wouldn't be able to inflict as much damage on them, assuming that they could use the nuclear threat in response.

01:09:33.000 So the same reason that, you know, we ultimately can't support Ukraine too much, we don't want them to be too successful against Russia, is because we don't want to trigger a nuclear response.

01:09:41.000 We don't want to give that option to sworn enemies of our country who support proxy groups in the area that attack Americans and our allies.

01:09:49.000 I see this only as having changed the circumstances and alleviated nothing.

01:09:54.000 It's kicking the can down the road, but the military pressure should get us to a deal.

01:09:58.000 I think it's just changed the circumstances.

01:10:00.000 It did change the circumstances. 0.67

01:10:03.000 If Iran was intent on using a nuke to blow up a country, then wouldn't they not say, okay, plan B, let's disperse this uranium into a bunch of dirty bombs and have them detonate into a bunch of major cities. 0.97

01:10:14.000 I don't think that's in the regime's best interest right now because that would guarantee their top off.

01:10:18.000 Why would nuking Israel be in their best interest? 1.00

01:10:20.000 Well, that's been their stated goal of the Ayatollah by 2040 was to completely wipe off Israel off the mouth. 0.97

01:10:25.000 If they can smuggle weapons into Gaza, why not smuggle some uranium and dirty bombs now? 0.91

01:10:33.000 I mean, just like the level of intelligence, the number of Mossad agents embedded in the highest levels of the ITRG.

01:10:40.000 So I think that there is going to be a lot more attention paid to that.

01:10:44.000 And that intelligence is very much in our interests as Americans as well. 0.89

01:10:48.000 I just think it's dangerous for radical Muslims to get a nuclear weapon. 1.00

01:10:52.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:10:53.000 Call me crazy, but...

01:10:55.000 Yeah.

01:10:55.000 And I think it's a bad thing that Pakistan has a weapon.

01:10:57.000 So I don't understand how that's an argument against me, really.

01:11:00.000 It's a bad thing that they have.

01:11:01.000 Oh, do we?

01:11:02.000 38% of votes are in, and Mom Dani is leading in Brooklyn and Queens.

01:11:08.000 He's winning.

01:11:10.000 Exactly.

01:11:11.000 Let's get back to this story and talk about the far left taking over.

01:11:15.000 Ladies and gentlemen, from Fox News, Chicago Tribune warns New York to avoid socialist mayoral candidate after mistake, Brandon Johnson.

01:11:24.000 And the results are coming in for the Democrat primary in New York.

01:11:27.000 Zoron Mamdani is winning By nine points with 43.1% to Cuomo's 34%.

01:11:34.000 Looks like the anti-Israel Democratic Socialist is going to win.

01:11:39.000 Well, 38%.

01:11:42.000 But yeah, it's not looking good in Brooklyn and Queens and Manhattan.

01:11:46.000 Cuomo has the Bronx and Staten Island so far.

01:11:51.000 Manhattan went Zoran. 0.91

01:11:53.000 Yeah, that's pretty crazy.

01:11:54.000 Those rich people are most of the rich people fled during COVID.

01:12:00.000 Yeah, they live on the other side.

01:12:00.000 Well, 200,000 of them at least went to Florida.

01:12:03.000 I left, but I wasn't even rich.

01:12:06.000 So is this New York's going to get what it deserves?

01:12:09.000 Which is what it votes for.

01:12:10.000 Like the David Freeberg from the All in podcast had a big, long tweet about it, and he's like, look, we should actually hope that Mom Donnie actually wins, like the whole thing, and that he does all of the things that he's talking about doing.

01:12:22.000 Because the point that Freeberg was making in the tweet was this sentiment, which is something we've been talking about all night, the leftist sentiment, the socialist sentiment is something that's actually very popular among young people in the United States.

01:12:36.000 And his argument was, let this happen to New York.

01:12:40.000 Let people see the terrible results of an actual socialist mayor, an actual socialist.

01:12:46.000 So that way the rest of the country can avoid this kind of terrorist.

01:12:49.000 But we saw it in Chicago.

01:12:50.000 Well, apparently we haven't seen it enough.

01:12:52.000 So then we have to go ahead and let this guy win. 0.93

01:12:54.000 That's cutting off your nose to spite your face. 1.00

01:12:56.000 You live in New York, so I mean, obviously not.

01:12:58.000 Not anymore, but no, I think it's better.

01:13:00.000 Oh, I hope a socialist's elected so people could have to move on.

01:13:03.000 I'm relating the tweet that Freeberg made.

01:13:06.000 I'm not making the argument.

01:13:06.000 You know what?

01:13:08.000 After college, I could not afford an apartment in New York and I had to leave.

01:13:11.000 And then after 9-11, the rents all dipped.

01:13:14.000 Oh, did they, really?

01:13:14.000 They dipped for like a year, and I was able to move back and get like a cheap rent on the Lower East Side.

01:13:20.000 And I was able to keep my rent really low for years and years and years until I, like for 20 years or something, until I finally hit market rate and I ended up out of rent-stabilized apartments.

01:13:31.000 So my sort of big hope, if Mom Donnie wins, is that in three years I can buy a penthouse for pennies.

01:13:37.000 The broad point that he was making is like, he says, let's make sure one or two cities and states fall apart fast so the rest don't have to, like Mom Donnie.

01:13:45.000 The point is.

01:13:46.000 It'll take 25 years to get these policies have been shown to absolutely excoriate cities.

01:13:54.000 Like you'll have all the wealthy people will leave to avoid the taxation that they're talking about.

01:13:58.000 You're going to lose your tax base.

01:13:59.000 They're going to lose all their grocery stores.

01:14:01.000 I mean, John Katzmatitis, who runs all the Gristetis and has his company's like Red Apple, something rather, he runs a bunch of businesses.

01:14:08.000 He was like, well, if Mom Donnie wins, I'll close up all the Gristettis and New York. 0.97

01:14:14.000 And I'll move, I'll leave the country.

01:14:16.000 No, well, he's got a, well, I think he could leave New York.

01:14:18.000 He's got a ton of businesses.

01:14:19.000 He doesn't need to keep Gristettis.

01:14:21.000 And also, I mean, the profit margins on grocery stores are shockingly low.

01:14:26.000 There's this old story that's probably just an urban legend where it's like a teacher was teaching their kids about socialism.

01:14:33.000 So all the kids were lefties and he said, what we're going to do is we're going to take a test on Friday and then I'm going to average out all the scores and everyone will get the same grade.

01:14:40.000 So what happened was some students studied really hard and they aced the test.

01:14:45.000 Some tried their best and they got, you know, most of it right.

01:14:49.000 And then some people slacked off and they did miserably.

01:14:51.000 Everyone ends up getting a B. So the lazy people were like, woo, I get a B. I didn't even do anything.

01:14:56.000 The people who worked their S off were like, what was the point?

01:14:58.000 I busted my S. So the next week and he says, we're going to do the same thing again.

01:15:03.000 This time everybody got a C because the hard workers gave up.

01:15:06.000 They said, what was the point?

01:15:08.000 I worked as hard as I could.

01:15:09.000 I only got a B. Why should I do extra?

01:15:12.000 Everybody ends up getting a C. Now everyone's pissed.

01:15:15.000 Well, now I'm not getting anything, but I'm not going to work harder than this.

01:15:18.000 If the only thing I can get is a C, why would I do the effort to get an A?

01:15:21.000 Next week, everyone failed.

01:15:22.000 The argument was, and again, it may be a real story, but the teacher was like, when people are not able to collect the fruits of their labor, they abandon the labor.

01:15:34.000 What these socialists don't understand is they're literally creating a system by which individuals cannot control the fruits of their labor.

01:15:40.000 When they say the people have a right, what they're saying is the committee, the institutions decide for you.

01:15:47.000 Whereas capitalism is private.

01:15:48.000 It's the police force.

01:15:50.000 Yeah.

01:15:50.000 Capitalism is the private ownership of, which means the individuals can choose to collect as much as they want of their own labor.

01:15:56.000 What the left doesn't like is the workers often negotiate poorly.

01:16:00.000 That's their only argument.

01:16:01.000 A worker has labor and he trades it, but he doesn't trade it for enough.

01:16:04.000 Okay, well, that was their choice.

01:16:06.000 Yeah, but because of social press, get out of here. 1.00

01:16:08.000 The argument that the government should form a body by force to come and seize things from literally everyone just means that all the grocery stores are going to close down.

01:16:17.000 Yeah, and this is from a city where the Democrats for years were complaining about food deserts, and they're going to create them because you're going to have people, you're going to have these city-run grocery stores.

01:16:26.000 They're not going to know how to do it.

01:16:28.000 They have absolutely no experience.

01:16:29.000 I mean, that's if he could get it through city council, which Batia thinks that he can't get it through city council even if he wins.

01:16:34.000 But I think that...

01:16:37.000 Speaking for...

01:16:40.000 We were talking about this before.

01:16:41.000 I think people are kind of overstating the threat this guy poses, even if he wins.

01:16:44.000 I mean, I don't think he's going to win.

01:16:46.000 He might win tonight, but I mean, he's not going to win the election.

01:16:49.000 I mean, but I think people are overstating a little bit.

01:16:52.000 But it's not just a leftist.

01:16:54.000 It's not just Zoran.

01:16:56.000 I was saying she's a subversive leftist earlier. 1.00

01:16:59.000 It's not just Zoran.

01:17:00.000 It is like the Uber laws that are popping up across the country.

01:17:05.000 What are the Uber laws?

01:17:06.000 You mean like the PRO Act?

01:17:07.000 You can't hire Attenborough Conquers anymore. 0.99

01:17:09.000 That's total garbage. 0.99

01:17:12.000 My point is, even in West Virginia, it is you have to be a psychopath to want to run a business. 1.00

01:17:22.000 It's shocking the laws here, it turns out.

01:17:24.000 Not just here, but literally everywhere.

01:17:26.000 And I use West Virginia as an example of where it should be easy, but it's not.

01:17:30.000 That's shocking to me.

01:17:32.000 Everything is taxed in every possible and imaginable way.

01:17:35.000 It's terrible.

01:17:36.000 And they choose to enforce it as they see fit.

01:17:38.000 And I mean, everywhere does this.

01:17:40.000 The requirements for starting a business in general are psychotic.

01:17:46.000 And so I'm actually shocked that companies exist in this country.

01:17:51.000 I'm not even exaggerating.

01:17:52.000 The amount of work I have to do to run this company is so psychotic that not a day goes by.

01:17:58.000 I don't have a conversation with my wife where we're Like, you know, this is really functionally impossible. 0.97

01:18:03.000 Running businesses is ridiculous. 0.84

01:18:05.000 Functionally impossible. 0.86

01:18:05.000 I have to work every waking hour of my life to be able to do this. 0.86

01:18:11.000 It's insane.

01:18:13.000 And so at a certain point, we ask ourselves, just like the lesson of communism, maybe we just stop doing it.

01:18:22.000 I don't get paid for the work that I do.

01:18:24.000 It's because I want a company to exist.

01:18:27.000 At a certain point, this system is going to implode.

01:18:30.000 So when I say Zoran Mamdani may not matter for New York right now, he is not just a grain of sand to make the heap, not just the snowball rolling down the hill.

01:18:41.000 This is like a bunch of kids at the top of the mountain creating a six by six ball of snow and then rolling it down the hill.

01:18:48.000 So I don't like anything he stands for.

01:18:51.000 I just think he seems like a nice guy.

01:18:53.000 But I think he's probably, I disagree with all of his views.

01:18:56.000 I think his views on Israel are the least bad of his views.

01:18:59.000 That's how bad his views are.

01:19:01.000 But I think like, yes, there's a way in which the Democrats socialist agenda, which wants to just raise tons and tons of taxes on people and then redistribute it.

01:19:13.000 I think that's bad.

01:19:14.000 Freeze the rent.

01:19:16.000 Let me tell you guys a story.

01:19:18.000 I also think, okay, go ahead.

01:19:19.000 Once you're going to freeze the rent with the other policies.

01:19:22.000 New York has abandoned properties.

01:19:26.000 You can freeze the rent on rent stabilized.

01:19:28.000 You get to already like so in New York and in California, and in Chicago, there are, because of Democrat policies to restrict how much rent can be increased, despite the fact we were hit with massive inflation, what's happened is building owners have decided not to rent out or renovate properties because it's too expensive and the renter costs you more money.

01:19:54.000 So what they've concluded is, if I can only rent the apartment for $2,000, but the person who comes in will cost me $2,100 per month, I am better off not renting this apartment or paying for the renovations.

01:20:09.000 Well, and if you scroll down, he also wants to crack down on bad landlords.

01:20:14.000 Right?

01:20:15.000 He also wants to crack down on really Dom, but I think that there is like there is a level at which like, so there's this bad idea, right?

01:20:24.000 But the idea that like just having a purely free market is going to result in every hardworking person getting like a living that they can support a family on, I think is also wrong.

01:20:39.000 Like that's a straw man.

01:20:40.000 I mean, we also have a pediatric on a lot of people to do jobs that are really difficult and really unrewarding.

01:20:47.000 And we've created a system in which it's okay to just expect them to do those jobs for very little money because they don't require like some sort of individuated like.

01:20:58.000 Well, he'll fix that.

01:20:58.000 He wants a $30 minimum wage.

01:21:03.000 The other thing too, though, is that in New York, right, you had a situation where you have to pay broker's fees, right?

01:21:09.000 So you pay first month's security and you pay a broker's fee, which can sometimes be in excess of one month's rent.

01:21:15.000 And sometimes they'll charge you again if you sign a two-year lease.

01:21:19.000 And so what they did was they got rid of the broker's fees for renters.

01:21:23.000 And so the landlords have to pay the broker's fees now.

01:21:26.000 And so all the rents have just gone up.

01:21:27.000 Like there's all these unintended consequences.

01:21:30.000 I mean, all these things to try and make it fair for working people.

01:21:33.000 Free buses, government-owned grocery stores?

01:21:36.000 Yeah, the government-owned grocery stores is really bad.

01:21:39.000 And all we have to do is tax Wall Street out of business.

01:21:42.000 Right.

01:21:42.000 And they want to fight corporate exploitation.

01:21:45.000 And they're talking about price gouges for grocery stores, but it costs a lot more to get food into the city.

01:21:50.000 Here's a question for you, Batia.

01:21:53.000 I agree.

01:21:53.000 There are people who do jobs that get paid very little.

01:22:00.000 I want to phrase the question properly, but what are we supposed to do when the fruits of the labor of that work are not worth what that person is being paid?

01:22:12.000 So we have artificially made it not worth that through a lot of really terrible policies.

01:22:20.000 So it wasn't like the free market that got us there.

01:22:23.000 For example, I think you probably agree with me about this, importing millions and millions and millions of illegals to compete for low-wage jobs, right? 1.00

01:22:32.000 So in 1971, which was the high watermark for working class purchasing power, the percentage of the U.S. population that was foreign-born was 4%.

01:22:43.000 Like, that's not an accident that the highest working class wages and purchasing power correlated with the lowest immigration.

01:22:51.000 In the 90s?

01:22:52.000 It was in the 70s, 1971.

01:22:54.000 Today, we have the stagnating working-class wages.

01:22:57.000 And you want to guess what the percentage of foreign-born population is today?

01:23:02.000 Super high double-digits.

01:23:03.000 15%.

01:23:05.000 So, you know, we artificially made the product of that labor cheap by importing a slave caste to do it. 1.00

01:23:14.000 There's also consideration, though, about kiosks and robots and AI.

01:23:21.000 The value of the labor is diminishing rapidly.

01:23:24.000 And you cannot say the economic production of the job you do will be $7 an hour and we're going to pay you $30.

01:23:33.000 That's an impossibility.

01:23:35.000 I agree.

01:23:35.000 I totally agree.

01:23:36.000 Well, but if so if currently because they already have robot arms that can make McDonald's cheeseburgers and kiosks where you can order from, would you just fire all those people then?

01:23:45.000 But first of all, unemployment is very low and we've been having a lot of like there's no correlation between automation and unemployment.

01:23:51.000 Like because we find new ways for people to be able to.

01:23:54.000 I don't think those employment numbers are functioning properly right now because of the gig economy.

01:24:00.000 What do you mean?

01:24:01.000 Wouldn't that suggest that even more people are employed?

01:24:04.000 So when you drive for Uber, you know what?

01:24:08.000 Scratch that I said Uber.

01:24:10.000 When you use your car for a ride-sharing app, the wear and tear and damage to your car and fuel actually costs you more than you're getting paid from the app.

01:24:20.000 And people don't realize that all they're actually doing is pulling equity out of the vehicle they own, destroying it.

01:24:27.000 That's horrible.

01:24:28.000 And a lot of times you end up renting the Vehicle from the ride-sharing app.

01:24:32.000 And then you're paying a bunch of money for that too.

01:24:34.000 You're almost better off just going into Hawk for a taxi medallion.

01:24:37.000 But those people are employed.

01:24:39.000 And so, what we've seen in some jurisdictions, they've mandated that the ride-sharing companies provide a vehicle to the driver so that it's not their cost.

01:24:48.000 But what's going to happen?

01:24:51.000 Tesla just rolled out some, I think, beta testing taxis.

01:24:56.000 And Waymo, of course.

01:24:58.000 Yeah, Waymo's already in, what, Phoenix, Austin, and California, and they're going to be rolling out all over the place.

01:25:03.000 They've had fun recently.

01:25:05.000 Oh, geez.

01:25:06.000 They fled the city and people pointed out that the driverless cars were on the highway.

01:25:09.000 But so those Uber drivers will be unemployed.

01:25:12.000 So the thing about what does it mean to be employed?

01:25:15.000 I think that unemployment's under counting a ton of people right now because if you stop looking for work, you're not considered unemployed anymore.

01:25:22.000 Unemployment is under counting unemployed people?

01:25:25.000 Yes.

01:25:27.000 JD Vance was talking about that during the campaign, too.

01:25:29.000 He was saying that there were like millions of young men who just dropped off the unemployment yesterday who just are underemployed or unemployed.

01:25:37.000 But you don't count them if they're not applying for unemployment.

01:25:40.000 If they're not like on the unemployment rolls.

01:25:43.000 Unemployment is people who are looking for work.

01:25:45.000 And if you say I'm to live at home with my parents, they say, well, you don't count them.

01:25:48.000 So unemployment must be really low.

01:25:50.000 But back to the point.

01:25:52.000 But those young men are not unemployed because of automation.

01:25:55.000 They're unemployed because there is a spiritual psychological crisis in masculinity in this country.

01:25:59.000 That's true, too.

01:26:00.000 Which is the result of things like offshoring of manufacturing.

01:26:03.000 Feminism, yeah. 1.00

01:26:04.000 And importing millions of people to do like low-wage, you know, working-class jobs.

01:26:09.000 You know.

01:26:09.000 You used to give men dignity.

01:26:10.000 Like you would start out as a drywaller, and then you would move your way up, and finally you become a contractor, and then you make good money.

01:26:16.000 Like you would provide for your family.

01:26:17.000 You would get dignity out of that.

01:26:19.000 And now those jobs are being done by illegal immigrants. 0.98

01:26:23.000 That's true, too.

01:26:24.000 I also think that social, we're looking at an emergent phenomenon where why all of this is happening.

01:26:34.000 I saw a great mean.

01:26:36.000 It said, hard times make strong men.

01:26:40.000 Strong men make good times.

01:26:43.000 Good times make white liberal women. 1.00

01:26:45.000 And white liberal women make hard times. 1.00

01:26:47.000 Make sure do.

01:26:48.000 Okay, can we talk about that article you posted today?

01:26:51.000 I've been really wanting to weigh in on it, and I didn't dare to get it.

01:26:53.000 Oh, the women don't want to get married anymore? 1.00

01:26:55.000 Yes.

01:26:55.000 It's because men don't want to marry dudes.

01:26:57.000 So pull it up because read the summary of it.

01:27:00.000 Is it, I didn't read the article.

01:27:02.000 Is it saying that women, I feel like it's saying that women don't want to, they're not getting married because men are not educated enough or not making enough money and they're making a lot of money?

01:27:11.000 Women can't, so from the Wall Street Journal, American women are giving up on marriage. 1.00

01:27:16.000 Major demographic shifts have put men and women on divergent paths.

01:27:19.000 That's left more women resigned to being single. 1.00

01:27:21.000 The numbers aren't netting out.

01:27:23.000 The easiest way to explain this phenomenon, men don't want to marry one of their bros.

01:27:29.000 They want to marry someone who complements their life in a way that they cannot, like to provide something in their life they don't.

01:27:35.000 So if there's a woman who is a girl boss and wants to hang out and likes hanging out with a dude and they get along really well and they mesh together, they maybe even hook up. 0.82

01:27:44.000 And she's like, I'm going to get that promotion.

01:27:46.000 I'm looking at a $30,000 a year raise if I get this.

01:27:49.000 And I've been competing.

01:27:50.000 The guys going, that's awesome.

01:27:51.000 I really, really feel for you.

01:27:53.000 You're like, you're one of the bros.

01:27:54.000 Now I'm going to find a wife who's going to talk to me about all the kids she wants to have. 1.00

01:27:57.000 And now she wants to help me start a family because I can't.

01:28:01.000 And so what's happening is that's an oversimplification. 0.91

01:28:06.000 But what's really happening is there's a lot of women who are going to make, I got so much crap for this six years ago. 0.64

01:28:14.000 A New York Post wrote, women are struggling to find men who make as much as they do. 0.97

01:28:19.000 And let me just put it simply for all the ladies out there. 0.90

01:28:21.000 If you're a 35-year-old woman who makes $50,000 a year, you will not likely find a 35-year-old guy who makes the same as you who's going to date you because a 35-year-old guy making 50K a year can go to a 28-year-old woman and take her out on a fancy dinner.

01:28:37.000 Or a 30-year-old guy making $50,000, $60,000 a year is going to be hooking up with 24-year-olds because he's going to get on the dating app, 24-year-old and say, hop in my car.

01:28:46.000 I got a convertible and we're going to go to the lake and then get dinner. 0.73

01:28:49.000 And she's going to be like, holy crap. 0.98

01:28:51.000 So the woman the same age as him, he's like, why? 0.98

01:28:53.000 I can get a younger woman. 1.00

01:28:54.000 Men want to date 22-year-olds. 0.95

01:28:55.000 Men should be, instead of all this toxic masculinity nonsense, men should, we should go back to our society, should go back to expecting men to be leaders and to be heads of the family.

01:29:08.000 And then you should marry the woman you fall in love with.

01:29:11.000 And so once again, the issue is most women are not doing those things. 1.00

01:29:17.000 So I feel like this article is, having not read it, but having just read the summary and the discourse online, is saying that you're saying, Tim, that men don't want these women.

01:29:27.000 But I think this article is saying these are women who make a ton of money, who are like, I will only date a guy who makes as much money as me or more, even though they are very financially secure. 0.99

01:29:39.000 And it's so funny to me because, first of all, there is this thing in liberal culture where you have men who also want like overachiever wives.

01:29:48.000 Like it used to be that like doctors would marry nurses and lawyers would marry secretaries.

01:29:53.000 And so you would have this like robust middle class because you would have like one earner and a homemaker. 0.99

01:30:00.000 But today, those professionals marry each other. 0.94

01:30:03.000 So the doctor is looking for a doctor and the lawyer is marrying a lawyer.

01:30:07.000 So you have these like upper middle class over-credentialed elites who are like hogging the American dream.

01:30:14.000 And these women are like, if I can't find a guy like that, instead of being like what I think makes sense, which is be like the doctor and be like, hey, I'm financially secure. 1.00

01:30:23.000 I can choose a mate based on how funny he is or like how good in bed he is or like how nice he is to me or like.

01:30:30.000 So what they're saying is that as a 29-year-old woman, she's given up on trying to find a husband.

01:30:35.000 She's going to do everything herself.

01:30:36.000 And this is the trend we're seeing.

01:30:38.000 Career women make the money and this has given rise to, we call it, I guess, black market sperm donors is what they're calling it. 1.00

01:30:45.000 What's a black market sperm donor? 0.84

01:30:46.000 Is that like a business?

01:30:47.000 These women go on Facebook and then make posts saying that they've resigned themselves to being single and so they want a man to come and inseminate them. 1.00

01:30:55.000 Like a big Lebowski. 0.97

01:30:57.000 So that this is happening?

01:30:59.000 Yes, on Facebook and the guys are like, hey, why buy the cow and you get the milk for free?

01:31:04.000 Show up, leave, never see her again.

01:31:07.000 Then she has a baby and she's a single mom. 1.00

01:31:08.000 That sucks. 1.00

01:31:09.000 I hate that. 1.00

01:31:10.000 That's right.

01:31:10.000 But that's largely liberals.

01:31:13.000 And the guys don't care that they have a kid out there who they don't know.

01:31:17.000 Guys have been told to step back and guys have been told that they don't have any say in any of that for so long that dudes have just been like, all right, well, I guess I can't.

01:31:26.000 Because they're not allowed to say that they want to keep their baby.

01:31:29.000 They're not allowed to say that they want the woman to have an abortion.

01:31:32.000 They're not allowed to have any say.

01:31:34.000 Remember, if you don't have a cervix, you don't get a say.

01:31:37.000 Men have internalized that, and that's the way that it's been for ages.

01:31:39.000 In liberal centers, they are aghast when I say these things.

01:31:43.000 I talked about this in 2019 when the New York Post wrote an article about these 35-year-old women who are like, for some reason, I can't find a guy my age who makes the amount of money as me and wants to date me. 1.00

01:31:53.000 And I'm like, you guys remember when Tiger Woods had a whole South Park episode made about him?

01:31:59.000 And the South Park episode, they were like, the news reporters are like, we are confused and shocked why wealthy and successful men are having sex with so many young, beautiful women.

01:32:07.000 What's causing this to happen?

01:32:10.000 So these liberal women, what I see is happening, and these are all tendencies, not absolutes. 1.00

01:32:15.000 There are a ton of successful, famous guys with famous, successful or not even famous women.

01:32:20.000 There's doctors, man, doctors, and they're not having kids. 0.86

01:32:23.000 They're largely not having kids, but they're happy and they found each other.

01:32:25.000 That's fine.

01:32:26.000 But for many of these women, they're going, society told me to get a job. 1.00

01:32:31.000 Society told me to get a degree.

01:32:33.000 They told me to get a promotion.

01:32:34.000 They told me to do all these things.

01:32:36.000 I've dedicated all my time and energy to this.

01:32:38.000 Why can't I find a husband? 0.96

01:32:39.000 It's like, well, because you dedicated your life to having a career.

01:32:44.000 And so did the guy.

01:32:45.000 And now what's going to happen, I'll just put it this way.

01:32:51.000 I have a friend who is a powerful girl boss who will never have a child now. 1.00

01:32:56.000 And she never did.

01:32:58.000 And it was because she just kept saying every time, you know, I don't know when I have time because I'm at work.

01:33:07.000 And I'm like, okay, well, you're never going to have a kid.

01:33:09.000 And she's like, well, I'll figure out eventually.

01:33:11.000 Like, no, if your priority every day is going to be your career, you will run out of time.

01:33:17.000 She did.

01:33:17.000 Well, you have to prioritize love if you want that in your life.

01:33:20.000 And that men don't.

01:33:22.000 That includes men.

01:33:22.000 Women have been told that they should.

01:33:24.000 And everything that our parents taught us was wrong.

01:33:28.000 Yeah.

01:33:28.000 Women have been told that they told us.

01:33:29.000 They told us to go to college.

01:33:31.000 They told us to follow our dreams.

01:33:32.000 They told us not to get married young. 0.98

01:33:34.000 They told us, you know, all kinds of ridiculous things. 1.00

01:33:37.000 And it was all trash. 0.99

01:33:39.000 They've been telling young women that they should be basing their, like how they style themselves to attract men on what they want from a man. 0.99

01:33:48.000 And men don't want the same thing from women that women want from men. 0.71

01:33:52.000 Also, women have been sold a false bill of goods about exactly what they want from men. 1.00

01:33:56.000 Yes.

01:33:57.000 I will tell you that for sure.

01:33:58.000 Why are women who are making a lot of money still looking for a provider or a guy who menu? 1.00

01:34:04.000 I think that's hardwired.

01:34:05.000 I think it's hardwired.

01:34:06.000 Yeah.

01:34:07.000 Really?

01:34:08.000 It's a biology.

01:34:09.000 A woman gets fiber woods and gets to select other things. 1.00

01:34:13.000 I'm going to put it this way.

01:34:15.000 It's no mistake that we're...

01:34:16.000 There is actually...

01:34:26.000 It doesn't work.

01:34:27.000 It is physically impossible because when the woman has the baby, the woman has to feed the baby. 1.00

01:34:33.000 Babies can't eat food. 1.00

01:34:35.000 They can only drink breast milk.

01:34:36.000 And so this idea that a woman can have a career, have the baby, hand the baby off to the dad and say, I'm going back to work, not possible. 1.00

01:34:43.000 I mean, the thing is, after you have a baby, like, you know, I had my son when I was 35, and very shortly, I wished I'd had him younger so that I could have another one.

01:34:54.000 And right away, I didn't give a single flying F about my career.

01:34:58.000 I just didn't care.

01:34:59.000 So it was not as important.

01:35:02.000 Here's a harsh reality.

01:35:03.000 And it's still not as important.

01:35:04.000 There will never be equality between the sexes, no matter what is done. 0.98

01:35:09.000 There will always be some offset simply because if a man says, I want to have a kid, I want to have a kid and I want to have a career.

01:35:17.000 He can find some woman. 0.65

01:35:19.000 Maybe there's a career woman and she goes, I have to time the pregnancy right because I have a job. 1.00

01:35:23.000 He'll go, nah, I'll just go find a woman who doesn't have to do that because I can wait forever. 1.00

01:35:27.000 I can have a kid when I'm 80, whatever.

01:35:29.000 So then he finds a woman.

01:35:31.000 She gets pregnant. 0.91

01:35:32.000 They're in love.

01:35:33.000 They get married.

01:35:33.000 All legit.

01:35:34.000 And he goes to work.

01:35:36.000 And he is not dealing with pregnancy.

01:35:38.000 He's not dealing with trips to the emergency room or like any kind of, he's not dealing with the changes to his body and the hormonal disruption in any way.

01:35:47.000 And then when it comes time for the wife to have the baby, he needs substantially less time than the wife, than the woman does after she gives birth. 0.96

01:35:55.000 So after giving birth, the woman's going to be bed rest and laying down and taking care of the baby for weeks. 1.00

01:35:59.000 Oh, it's a pain in the ass. 1.00

01:36:00.000 Men and women are different? 1.00

01:36:01.000 Indeed.

01:36:02.000 No.

01:36:03.000 So that's why they'll never be equal.

01:36:04.000 So then, why would a man who says, I want a family, choose a 29-year-old career woman when he's going to be like, I don't have the time or energy to like negotiate with you on when you're going to be breastfeeding the child or not breastfeeding the child and formula, he's going to go, I don't want to formula feed the baby. 0.93

01:36:25.000 That's not natural.

01:36:26.000 But Tim, don't you think I'm, I have been, like, I feel like when I was coming up, I knew a lot of like really awesome girls who were single.

01:36:33.000 And now I feel like I know a lot of like really great guys who cannot find a woman. 0.92

01:36:38.000 Like they can't meet women.

01:36:40.000 I think women, like it's, this is, this would love to and they can't find a woman. 1.00

01:36:46.000 Like they're like, there's.

01:36:47.000 Because women don't want to be moms anymore. 1.00

01:36:50.000 Right, but you're talking about it like the women are like aging out of the marriage market when the truth is they're withholding themselves like much younger. 1.00

01:36:57.000 Like men are like, you meet these men and they're desperate to find love and they just have no broken, you know?

01:37:04.000 So the charts that we've seen over the past several years are that young guys are increasingly staying virgins, struggling to find relationships.

01:37:14.000 And this is because of dating apps.

01:37:16.000 I would surmise, I think this is my hypothesis.

01:37:19.000 If you're in college 30 years ago, your dating pool is the women that are in your university. 1.00

01:37:28.000 You go to parties, you meet A woman, you're like, hey, we both go to UIC, and you know, and then you hook up, then you start hanging out together, and then many of these people start getting married.

01:37:36.000 Dating apps come out.

01:37:38.000 Now, what do people do?

01:37:39.000 Well, they don't meet at parties, they swipe on the app.

01:37:41.000 So, you're sitting at your friend's house, you're swiping, and you know what?

01:37:45.000 You actually got a phone number the other day, you're 22, and you met this woman while you were at the cafeteria.

01:37:50.000 She's awesome. 0.83

01:37:52.000 She was wearing an anime shirt from like a show that you liked.

01:37:54.000 You're both really into it.

01:37:55.000 So cool.

01:37:56.000 And you talked about it, traded numbers, and you text her, hey, we are hanging out in my friend's dorm.

01:38:02.000 We're going to watch that, you know, Miyazaki film you love so much.

01:38:06.000 Let's watch, come hang out.

01:38:08.000 And then she goes, oh, that would be super cool.

01:38:10.000 Then she opens Tinder and the 30-year-old guy who makes $80,000 a year has messaged her saying, hey, what are you doing right now?

01:38:18.000 I can come pick you up.

01:38:19.000 We'll drive to the lake and then go see a movie.

01:38:21.000 There's this really great rooftop bar we can hang out at.

01:38:24.000 What does she pick?

01:38:25.000 Look, I mean, it's a tendency, not an absolute, but she's going to go, hey, dude, rain check on the film.

01:38:30.000 I'm busy tonight.

01:38:31.000 And then she's going to walk outside, jump in the car, 22 years old with a 30-year-old guy.

01:38:35.000 And that's why young men are struggling right now, not completely, but largely.

01:38:39.000 And you can also add in the fact that social media is largely making young guys antisocial and incapable of interacting properly.

01:38:46.000 And then they're competing with 30-year-old guys with money, so they're getting washed out.

01:38:50.000 But that's always been the case, no?

01:38:52.000 No, it hasn't been.

01:38:53.000 But then that 20-year-old guy could date the 18-year-old girl who's like not going to date the 18-year-old.

01:38:57.000 No, the 18-year-old girl is going to go to the 26, 27-year-old. 0.57

01:39:00.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:39:02.000 And if it's all staggered, like there should be someone for everybody, no?

01:39:05.000 No.

01:39:06.000 I kept saying that.

01:39:06.000 I think one of the biggest reasons didn't make an announcement.

01:39:11.000 50% of men in all history did not have any offspring.

01:39:14.000 Half of all human males that have ever existed have not reproduced.

01:39:18.000 All women have.

01:39:19.000 So, no, it's not as easy to do.

01:39:20.000 What is the answer to that?

01:39:22.000 It's a huge crisis.

01:39:24.000 Like, what's the answer?

01:39:25.000 Women need to stop working. 1.00

01:39:26.000 The real reason you get married.

01:39:29.000 No, the real reason that most people used to get married was because men were providers.

01:39:33.000 People didn't get married because of love or some BS.

01:39:36.000 It was because men provided for the women, and many women were stuck in marriages. 1.00

01:39:39.000 Not with these men.

01:39:40.000 What part of wrong?

01:39:41.000 About women marrying men because they were providers? 0.91

01:39:44.000 Yes.

01:39:44.000 I think I'm 100% right.

01:39:46.000 Women married men because it was social order. 0.99

01:39:48.000 It was called enforced monogamy.

01:39:50.000 And so the social order of females was where are you finding your husband? 1.00

01:39:54.000 Who's your husband?

01:39:55.000 When are you getting married?

01:39:55.000 How many kids you had?

01:39:56.000 Women were competing in the social hierarchy by being good moms and homemakers. 1.00

01:40:01.000 That was the, that was, it's called, I did not make this up.

01:40:05.000 Read, well, maybe read old Jordan Peterson.

01:40:07.000 How people don't like him these days as much.

01:40:09.000 But this is the concept of enforced monogamy.

01:40:12.000 Those are bad suits.

01:40:13.000 The social order of human civilization was you were a spinster and you were insulted and derided as a woman if you were not married with children before you were 30. Just like in well, women also didn't have many other economic opportunities. 1.00

01:40:27.000 They weren't, what, 100 years ago that women didn't, you know, they didn't have the most economic spinsters were women who chose to work instead and they were insulted for it. 1.00

01:40:36.000 Well, or they didn't choose it.

01:40:38.000 They just got stuck.

01:40:40.000 That happened too.

01:40:41.000 Right, but the suffragettes and the movement for women's rights and all that were women. 1.00

01:40:47.000 People get stuck.

01:40:48.000 It happens. 0.98

01:40:49.000 You're with some guy and then he goes off to war and he never comes back and then you're screwed. 0.98

01:40:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:40:54.000 Well, widows. 0.94

01:40:55.000 Sure, but not widows. 0.99

01:40:56.000 You're not a widow.

01:40:57.000 You're like your fiancé.

01:40:59.000 And women did jobs. 1.00

01:41:00.000 They just didn't run industries.

01:41:01.000 And so the issue is...

01:41:05.000 This is, you know, again, this comes up.

01:41:07.000 The left has this clip of me where I say, five years ago, I'm like, I'm surprised I don't have a family and it's not me.

01:41:13.000 It's everybody else.

01:41:15.000 And it's a great clip.

01:41:16.000 Have fun with it.

01:41:17.000 But the point of what I was saying was society would not tolerate so many successful bachelor men not having families 50, 60 years ago, you'd be insulted, frowned upon, and questioned.

01:41:32.000 Even in the 90s, people were like, why is that man a bachelor at 45 or 50?

01:41:37.000 Something is wrong. 0.86

01:41:38.000 And they'd call you gay for being it. 0.95

01:41:40.000 When in fact, this guy was a playboy who was a multi-millionaire. 0.72

01:41:43.000 And if you wanted to run for office, you had to like find something, yeah.

01:41:46.000 And so what happened is society started telling women particularly to pursue careers and not family.

01:41:54.000 So men don't have any social pressure from anybody to have a family.

01:42:00.000 If you go back to 100 years ago, if a guy wanted to get him some, the woman said, no, I want to be married.

01:42:08.000 And the dad would be like, you can't have my daughter.

01:42:09.000 Chick-chak on the wedding. 1.00

01:42:11.000 Now it's the guys. 0.98

01:42:12.000 I mean, feminism has largely benefited loser Playboys because they get the milk for free without buying the cow. 1.00

01:42:19.000 Where it used to be that, and all the feminists are getting mad that I said that. 1.00

01:42:22.000 Cows, what do you mean? 0.94

01:42:23.000 A guy was like, I want a woman. 0.98

01:42:26.000 It started in the 70s already.

01:42:28.000 Yeah, of course.

01:42:29.000 It did.

01:42:29.000 But there wasn't such a crisis, I feel like, for young men finding people.

01:42:33.000 Is that a crisis?

01:42:34.000 It takes time to warm up.

01:42:35.000 Dude, he's really struggling to.

01:42:37.000 I feel like it's self-prescribed.

01:42:40.000 Is that true?

01:42:40.000 I don't care about it all.

01:42:41.000 I don't think so.

01:42:42.000 I don't think it's real.

01:42:43.000 I don't think it's real.

01:42:43.000 Women think it's overwrought, especially on the internet.

01:42:47.000 Let's bring this up.

01:42:48.000 Have you guys seen the trend where women wear intentionally ugly clothing and bad makeup? 1.00

01:42:54.000 Yeah, I thought they did that because it was called socialism. 0.95

01:42:58.000 No, there is an actual trend where women dress in strange, disgusting ways. 1.00

01:43:02.000 Pop Culture Crisis was talking about this.

01:43:04.000 There's a video of a woman on TikTok where she's like, a guy called Mount Fit Ugly.

01:43:08.000 Too bad he doesn't realize they don't dress for guys.

01:43:10.000 I dress for the girls.

01:43:11.000 This has always been the case, and everyone's known this.

01:43:15.000 Women wear makeup for women, not for men. 0.99

01:43:18.000 Men tend not to like excessive makeup.

01:43:20.000 Women, is that true? 1.00

01:43:22.000 I don't wear makeup, really.

01:43:23.000 I wear mascara and a little lift.

01:43:25.000 So do you wear it for women or men?

01:43:27.000 I wear it for camera.

01:43:28.000 Let's cite the meme where a woman posted on Twitter, back when it was Twitter, sexism is that a man can wear the same clothes every day, but a woman will get criticized if she wears the same outfit twice. 0.68

01:43:40.000 And the guy responded, literally, not a single man cares if you wear the same cute dress twice in a row.

01:43:45.000 Women dress for other women. 1.00

01:43:47.000 Guys don't know or care.

01:43:48.000 That's why the trope is that guys lie to women.

01:43:50.000 Like, how do I look?

01:43:51.000 They're like, good.

01:43:52.000 Like, what?

01:43:53.000 You're wearing clothes.

01:43:54.000 I don't wear the same thing every day.

01:43:56.000 So tie this to the conversation.

01:43:57.000 How does that fit into the...

01:44:03.000 And if the competition among women is, do you have a family and babies? 1.00

01:44:07.000 And how's your household?

01:44:08.000 And is your husband good?

01:44:09.000 Then they're striving to have the best husband. 1.00

01:44:12.000 Talk about that too.

01:44:13.000 Who does?

01:44:14.000 Women. 0.81

01:44:14.000 Right, indeed. 0.81

01:44:16.000 And for men, it's how big.

01:44:18.000 Guys are competing on how big is the skyscraper that you built.

01:44:22.000 How tall, how far does your bridge span?

01:44:25.000 There's a trophy wife phenomenon, right? 1.00

01:44:27.000 Men compete on having a hot wife, no? 1.00

01:44:29.000 Well, having, so I would call it, again, tendencies that for a guy, they're dopamine rel.

01:44:35.000 Let me try it like this.

01:44:37.000 When a guy takes a picture of something he likes, he points the camera at it.

01:44:41.000 When a woman takes a picture of something she likes, she selfies with it. 1.00

01:44:44.000 Women are more interested in people, and that's not derogatory. 1.00

01:44:48.000 And men are more interested in things.

01:44:50.000 So certainly guys want status, and so we're all human, so we do share, and it's bimodal.

01:44:58.000 Women have a tendency towards subjective, and men have a tendency towards objective. 0.80

01:45:02.000 But that means a guy, many men, do want to be like, look how awesome my wife is. 0.99

01:45:07.000 I'm the best guy.

01:45:08.000 I got the best woman.

01:45:09.000 Women aren't doing that anymore with guys. 1.00

01:45:12.000 They're saying, I want to have a career.

01:45:14.000 And I can't find a guy who's good enough.

01:45:17.000 I can't have a family.

01:45:19.000 And then younger guys who are available, but, you know, there's a lot more to this.

01:45:23.000 One of the arguments that's brought up often by sociologists is that women, when they're, what's attractive to a woman, a component of that is the access to resources and status. 0.98

01:45:35.000 And if a woman has set her status at the middle class median, then she's going to be attracted, like you were saying, hardwired to someone who's making more than her.

01:45:45.000 If the woman is making the same on average as the average guy, all of the men she meets look unappealing.

01:45:51.000 Whereas for men, they're just like, this is a beautiful woman who could be a mom.

01:45:55.000 And the woman's like, I'm not interested in you. 1.00

01:45:56.000 And I think that is exacerbated by the fact that the Democrats created an economy in which having a college degree was an enormous benefit in the marketplace, in the economy.

01:46:06.000 And women are 15 points more likely to have a college degree, meaning that they are actually have been catapulted to a certain degree, not like in the CEO class, but like in the upper middle class professional managerial class. 0.98

01:46:18.000 They're much more likely to be overrepresented there.

01:46:20.000 And men are more likely to be represented in blue collar work, meaning that they are literally like not going to even.

01:46:25.000 And because guys are so desperate to hook up, they tolerate women's excesses. 1.00

01:46:30.000 Yes.

01:46:31.000 Such as we hear about the glass ceiling every day, but no one talks about the glass floor.

01:46:35.000 Don't forget that women don't know what they want. 1.00

01:46:37.000 The glass floor is that women tend not to work in sewage, tend not to work on oil rigs. 1.00

01:46:42.000 Their workplace mortality is exceptionally low relative to men.

01:46:45.000 And when it comes to office work, women are substantially more likely to get hired at mid-tier levels, whereas men work in the basement, in the gutter. 1.00

01:46:51.000 And guys are jerks for it. 1.00

01:46:53.000 And men go, whatever you say, you're right about the glass ceiling. 1.00

01:46:57.000 I mean, women don't know what they want either. 1.00

01:46:59.000 No, they don't.

01:47:00.000 And I think that matters too.

01:47:02.000 Like, none of us know anything.

01:47:04.000 We got to go to your chats.

01:47:06.000 Nobody knows anything about what you're curious.

01:47:07.000 We went way over and we had a good time doing it.

01:47:09.000 I hijacked by making us talk about it.

01:47:12.000 We're going to go to your chats.

01:47:13.000 And of course, we're going to have that uncensored call-in show coming up at 10 p.m.

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01:48:23.000 Let's grab your chats and rants right now.

01:48:26.000 Let's see what we got going on here. 0.99

01:48:28.000 Sh Wilder says, can we all agree that Al Green is a crazy, angry old man with a cane? 0.89

01:48:33.000 He's fallen so far from the soul days of singing, I can't get next to you. 0.92

01:48:37.000 Yes, we can.

01:48:38.000 We can all agree on that.

01:48:40.000 All right, AK Storm says, Batia, on trigonometry, you said that we're actually closer together on abortion, guns, and other issues.

01:48:47.000 How about the youngest generation in gay marriage?

01:48:49.000 Could you just be seeing the average?

01:48:53.000 It's a great question.

01:48:54.000 So on abortion, for example, this is like a really good example of a phenomenon that I think happens on a lot of issues.

01:49:01.000 So if you poll people and ask them, are you pro-life or pro-choice?

01:49:05.000 So 49% of Americans will say I'm pro-life and 49% will say I'm pro-choice.

01:49:10.000 But if you dig down into the numbers of the pro-lifers, over 90% believe in exceptions for rape, incest, and the health of the mother.

01:49:18.000 And then you look at the pro-choice people, like the vast majority, I think it's 65 to 70%, believe it should only be legal for the first trimester.

01:49:27.000 So that's 12 weeks, meaning that there's like 80% overlap on 80% of this issue.

01:49:33.000 Then why is it that in blue states, they're unrestricting abortion to the point of birth?

01:49:37.000 That is true.

01:49:38.000 Because as is so often the case in America, our elites and elected officials do not represent the will of the people.

01:49:44.000 This is much more true on the left, by the way, than it is on the right, because Trump really marginalized the elites.

01:49:49.000 He kind of told Project 2025 to take a hike.

01:49:51.000 He took the pro-life language out of the GOP platform.

01:49:56.000 Same thing with gay marriage. 0.95

01:49:57.000 If you look at how people feel about gay marriage, it's really taken off even on the right, and that is especially among younger Republicans.

01:50:06.000 It's at 60% support, I believe.

01:50:08.000 So like a lot unites us as Americans, much more unites us than divides us.

01:50:12.000 But the elites, unfortunately, on both sides tend to get a lot of power, make a lot of money off of making us hate each other.

01:50:18.000 What was the third thing they said?

01:50:19.000 Guns.

01:50:20.000 Yeah.

01:50:20.000 The vast majority of Americans are pretty pro-Second Amendment and believe in background checks and other sort of what, you know, red flag laws and other sort of common sense restrictions.

01:50:30.000 I know you're not in the majority, but the majority of Americans, 70% I think, support background checks.

01:50:35.000 Red flag laws? 0.73

01:50:36.000 Red flags.

01:50:37.000 I think those are manipulated stats.

01:50:39.000 I think they can be weaponized.

01:50:40.000 I think if you went to the average person and said, should the government be allowed to send armed men to your home without a warrant to seize your private property?

01:50:51.000 They'd say no.

01:50:53.000 What if someone accused you of being mentally unstable and dangerous?

01:50:56.000 What about background checks?

01:50:56.000 Do you support that?

01:50:58.000 Well, that's an iffy thing because, once again, it's a manipulated statistic.

01:51:02.000 What do you mean by background check is the question.

01:51:05.000 So the challenge is we have universal background checks.

01:51:08.000 We have the NICS system.

01:51:10.000 But Democrats tend to want a list of the guns owned by the individuals when they say background check.

01:51:15.000 They also make up lies about gun show loopholes and things like this, which just don't exist.

01:51:19.000 And so you have background checks largely because the stores don't want to sell guns to dangerous people.

01:51:24.000 There was a guy who went into, where was this?

01:51:27.000 There was a guy who went to a Walmart and said he wanted to buy a gun because it was like a viral video or something.

01:51:32.000 He was like, I'm pissed. 0.94

01:51:34.000 Like, I'm going to shoot this guy or whatever. 0.84

01:51:36.000 And then he went to go buy a gun and they overheard him like, you can't buy a gun from us. 0.98

01:51:38.000 You just said you wanted to shoot somebody.

01:51:39.000 And he's like, what do you mean? 0.55

01:51:40.000 I was just kidding.

01:51:41.000 And they're like, no, you weren't.

01:51:42.000 So they're just like, we're not going to sell you that.

01:51:44.000 So the issue is when you poll people, here's the problem I have.

01:51:51.000 Liberals have no idea what they're talking about and they base their view on politics off movies.

01:51:56.000 It's true.

01:51:58.000 They have no idea what they're talking about.

01:51:59.000 So when you poll them on things like, should police have suppressors on their rifles, this is something we talked about the other day, they're going to be like, why would they need that?

01:52:08.000 And it's like, because it's a safety device that reduces ear damage.

01:52:12.000 I mean, it's hearing protection.

01:52:14.000 And it can reduce recoil and things like this.

01:52:17.000 But they think because of movies that you put on leather gloves and go pew, pew, pew, and no one can hear you, which is completely false.

01:52:23.000 If someone had a gun in here with a suppressor on it, they pulled the trigger, we'd all be screaming.

01:52:27.000 Really?

01:52:28.000 Yeah.

01:52:28.000 Oh, yeah.

01:52:29.000 You'd share and you'd be going, and you'd be like, what happened?

01:52:33.000 Yeah, you'd probably have serious hurricanes.

01:52:35.000 Yeah. 0.73

01:52:35.000 Like if you're in your home and someone breaks into your home and you pull out your Glock and shoot it, you're deaf. 0.73

01:52:41.000 Huh.

01:52:42.000 For how long?

01:52:43.000 You usually be ringing for, you know.

01:52:45.000 A couple hours.

01:52:46.000 A couple hours, yeah.

01:52:47.000 If you shot it, like, and it depends on what you're shooting, but like rifles, for the most part, like even with a can, you're going to, you're going to blow your ears out if you're inside.

01:52:55.000 You're outside.

01:52:56.000 That's why everyone always says eyes and ears.

01:52:58.000 You've got to put hearing protection on when you're shooting at an outdoor range.

01:53:01.000 It's so loud.

01:53:02.000 I mean, if you're just like a 22, you're probably going to be like, it's not that big a deal.

01:53:07.000 But liberals have banned suppressors because they think, because of movies, that you can go into a house and go, pew, pew, pew, and no one can hear anything.

01:53:15.000 Are there any weapons that are like pew, pew, pew?

01:53:18.000 I could probably, you could probably make a get 22s.

01:53:22.000 You can get them that quiet.

01:53:23.000 Like if you have a subsonic 22 round and a can on it, if you use 300 blackout and a can, you can get them quiet.

01:53:30.000 But like the stopping power of a.22 with a suppressor on it.

01:53:34.000 Yeah, it's not doing them a lot.

01:53:35.000 But the blackout's a big bullet.

01:53:36.000 That's a 30 caliber bullet.

01:53:37.000 Just got a pistol load, so they're quiet.

01:53:39.000 Yeah.

01:53:40.000 Yeah.

01:53:40.000 Subsonic's crazy.

01:53:41.000 You can actually, like, when the sun's just right, you're at the range, you can see the bullet.

01:53:45.000 It's sick.

01:53:46.000 Yeah, it's wild.

01:53:46.000 Like a.45, like, because a.45 is a big bullet too, especially if you're shooting downrange.

01:53:51.000 The sun will hit them just right.

01:53:53.000 You can see these shoes.

01:53:54.000 You'll see it go flying.

01:53:56.000 They don't go that fast.

01:53:58.000 Less than 1,000 feet per second.

01:53:59.000 But anyway, I would probably oppose background checks.

01:54:04.000 I think any infringement on gun rights violates the Constitution, and there's no argument for us just being able to decide when we get to.

01:54:10.000 Granted, that's what everybody does.

01:54:12.000 So I typically oppose all that.

01:54:14.000 I think if you actually had an educated population, they would likely oppose most of the restrictions.

01:54:21.000 The thing is that Americans are getting more pro-gun and more pro-life.

01:54:27.000 Like the idea, for a long time we were getting more and more and more liberal on social issues, like gay issues, race relations.

01:54:34.000 That has all held.

01:54:36.000 But on these other issues, abortion, it's declining a little because of the trans issue.

01:54:42.000 I think it's kind of a, it's because they probably phrase the question as LGBT, but I think most Americans are pretty pro-gay and pretty wary of the trans issue.

01:54:52.000 The YouGov data that we pulled up a while ago found that Gen Z support for gay marriage dropped dramatically in a short period of time, indicating that was an ideological shift.

01:55:00.000 They hate Israel, they hate gay marriage. 0.88

01:55:02.000 Yes, this is the point. 1.00

01:55:04.000 They hate the Jews, they hate the gays. 0.99

01:55:06.000 What do they want to? 0.99

01:55:07.000 What is even going on?

01:55:08.000 Well, I think for young men, they're sick of anything else. 0.99

01:55:10.000 Yeah, that smacks of the wokeness.

01:55:13.000 It is a little bit of a bunch of people.

01:55:13.000 But on guns and on abortion, Americans are getting more conservative, I think.

01:55:17.000 I think they're getting more conservative on everything.

01:55:20.000 It's a combination of birth rates and access to mass media.

01:55:26.000 I will say they don't like the bans.

01:55:27.000 So like when I was writing my book, Second Class, I was traveling around the country interviewing working class people from both parties.

01:55:32.000 And the most common view I heard on abortion was, I'm pro-life.

01:55:36.000 I would never get an abortion.

01:55:37.000 But I would not judge that woman.

01:55:39.000 I don't want to take away her ability to make the choice that's right for her.

01:55:43.000 And even in red states where they've put up abortion bans, they've failed.

01:55:47.000 So I think, you know, the GOP needs to be very careful on this issue.

01:55:50.000 Keep to the status quo is what I would recommend.

01:55:52.000 All right.

01:55:53.000 Arsonist.

01:55:53.000 Non-subversive morcest.

01:55:56.000 Arsonist says, I'll be honest, man, these last two weeks have made me really dislike Israel.

01:56:00.000 Why are we allies again?

01:56:02.000 The Holy Land.

01:56:03.000 Christians want access to it.

01:56:06.000 They're the only quote-unquote democracy in the Middle East.

01:56:09.000 Sure.

01:56:09.000 I think it's because Christians believe that if Muslims take over the region, they will deny access to Christians to the Holy Land.

01:56:15.000 I think that's a large component of it.

01:56:17.000 It's a big component of it.

01:56:18.000 This country has always been deeply phylo-Semitic. 0.99

01:56:21.000 So America from its founding has been very protective of its Jewish population.

01:56:26.000 And I think that there's an affinity for Israel, both religiously and sociologically.

01:56:30.000 We get a lot out of that relationship strategically in terms of intelligence sharing, in terms of, you know, they keep an eye on our enemies in the region.

01:56:38.000 But again, you know, I think if young people decide like, you know, it's time to stop giving any aid to any foreign country, I don't think there's anything wrong with us making that decision as a country.

01:56:47.000 I think there's also something to say about how we actually literally never had boots on the ground for any Israel war as opposed to our other allies.

01:56:55.000 Israel is actually a very good military ally.

01:56:58.000 They're not like South Korea where we had to bail them out.

01:57:00.000 It's not like Vietnam where we had. 1.00

01:57:02.000 We even have guys in Ukraine now.

01:57:04.000 A lot just broke the chat.

01:57:07.000 So, even in Europe.

01:57:08.000 So, for example, you know, we had to go bail out Europe too in World War II.

01:57:12.000 So, you know, for half of Israel's history, we actually didn't even support them military aid-wise, but we've never had boots on the ground there.

01:57:19.000 And as far as potent allies go, I think Israel's a great ally.

01:57:23.000 I think they do our dirty work.

01:57:24.000 I wish our other allies were as potent, were as potent and ambitious militarily as Israel was.

01:57:29.000 Again, if South Korea could take care of North Korea, if Japan and Taiwan could take care of China and hold their own, if Europe could take care of Russia and hold their own so we don't have to get bogged down in there, Israel really handled Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran almost completely to themselves. 0.67

01:57:45.000 We don't like to talk about the subversive stuff they did in Syria too. 0.57

01:57:48.000 So I think it would be helpful to have more allies like Israel, actually.

01:57:51.000 All right, Mr. Spencer says, I like the teenaged girl talking around the problem way Ilad says comedians on Twitter when he's clearly talking about Dave Smith and only Dave Smith.

01:58:01.000 Name a second isolationist comedian, Ilod.

01:58:05.000 I think there are others.

01:58:06.000 I can't name one off the top of my head.

01:58:07.000 I don't even think.

01:58:09.000 I mean, it's tongue in cheek, but I think these comedians, some comedians like him, get more attention doing their Israel commentary than they do or ever have in their comedy routines.

01:58:20.000 And I think that's worth mentioning because a lot of people on social media are just getting completely sucked up into audience capture and just saying whatever will produce them live from people in packaging.

01:58:28.000 Dave was running for the libertarian, he was front runner for the libertarian presidential ticket.

01:58:33.000 He has been, this is not something new of Dave.

01:58:35.000 He hasn't adopted these.

01:58:37.000 Has he always been this vocal?

01:58:38.000 Absolutely.

01:58:40.000 He was going to run for the Libertarian presidential ticket.

01:58:43.000 Sure.

01:58:44.000 Like, he's a political guy.

01:58:45.000 But I must admit, there was a very funny meme I saw where it said, I'm starting to doubt my trust in the expertise of comedians on Twitter.

01:58:54.000 And I was like, that was a good one.

01:58:57.000 That was good.

01:58:58.000 Yeah.

01:58:59.000 No, there's a lot of these guys.

01:59:02.000 Actually, that exists.

01:59:04.000 Theo Vaughn.

01:59:05.000 Theo Vaughn.

01:59:07.000 He's not like Dave. 0.99

01:59:08.000 I don't like comedians in politics because whenever they're proven to be say or do something stupid, they always put on my, oh, gee whiz, I'm just a comedian hat. 0.95

01:59:16.000 So Jon Stewart used to do a lot of this too. 0.98

01:59:18.000 It's like, oh, you take me seriously in my political commentary? 1.00

01:59:20.000 You're an idiot for doing so. 1.00

01:59:21.000 It's like, you're engaging in politics, and then you have this ultimate out as a comedian. 1.00

01:59:25.000 It's like, you're taking me seriously. 1.00

01:59:26.000 You're dumb for taking me, the comedian, the joke guy, seriously. 0.98

01:59:30.000 So they all play this double act all the time. 0.99

01:59:32.000 So one of the things that I want to do is...

01:59:36.000 Jon Stewart.

01:59:37.000 Yeah, we're going to make a show called Comedy Sketch News, where we just make AI videos of people like Jon Stewart saying things that are compromising, but believable.

01:59:48.000 Because they can't sue me because it's a joke.

01:59:50.000 It's a comedy.

01:59:51.000 So I can make a video where Jon Stewart admits to infidelity or, you know, I can make a secret.

01:59:58.000 Scandalous.

01:59:59.000 I know.

02:00:00.000 I think that you think that that's scandalous.

02:00:03.000 Infidelity?

02:00:03.000 Scandalous.

02:00:04.000 No, I mean, we think it is, but he wouldn't probably know left.

02:00:07.000 I think if a video went viral of Jon Stewart saying he cranks to pictures of dogs, he might have an issue with that.

02:00:12.000 That's a little more than infidelity.

02:00:14.000 A little deeper than infidelity.

02:00:16.000 And then he's going to be like, that video is fake.

02:00:17.000 And people are going to be like, I don't know, man.

02:00:18.000 It looks real and it's circulating around.

02:00:20.000 It looks like it's from your show.

02:00:21.000 The boomers will think it's real. 0.97

02:00:22.000 Indeed, they will.

02:00:23.000 And he's going to be like, I'll sue you for making it.

02:00:24.000 I'll be like, why?

02:00:25.000 We're doing jokes.

02:00:26.000 You can't sue me.

02:00:26.000 It's a comedy show.

02:00:27.000 Comedy show.

02:00:28.000 That's what they do to us.

02:00:30.000 We do it to them.

02:00:31.000 See, this is the issue is that the right never had, like, for my whole life, the right was composed of these stodgy, suit-wearing squares. 0.97

02:00:42.000 And then when the left started getting crazy, subversive urban punk rock elements started saying like, yo, y'all are nuts.

02:00:49.000 And then Trump came around, who actually is one of those urban subversive elements who courted the right and said, I mean, come on. 0.72

02:00:56.000 You have these like family men going to church and then Trump comes along with like, how many baby mamas?

02:01:01.000 And three?

02:01:02.000 Five?

02:01:03.000 Five.

02:01:03.000 Five baby mamas?

02:01:04.000 Am I wrong?

02:01:05.000 Many of them.

02:01:06.000 Five.

02:01:06.000 Oh, was it five children?

02:01:08.000 Or I think he was married five times.

02:01:09.000 Maybe he does have more baby mamas. 1.00

02:01:11.000 I don't know.

02:01:12.000 A bunch of urban liberals end up saying, okay, I can get behind this guy.

02:01:17.000 And now the right actually has people who are creative, edgy, willing to fight back.

02:01:24.000 And all of a sudden now they have better entertainment.

02:01:26.000 They have better music.

02:01:27.000 They have better comedy.

02:01:28.000 The Babylon Bee is hilarious. 0.68

02:01:30.000 The Onion is psychotic. 1.00

02:01:32.000 You know, it's just garbage. 1.00

02:01:34.000 It's fake propaganda. 1.00

02:01:35.000 I mean, it's cult comedy.

02:01:38.000 To make a joke for the cult, you need only say, hey guys, you know how cult believes in this thing?

02:01:44.000 And then they all started clapping.

02:01:46.000 Vice did a funny video on this on a transgender comedian like 10 years ago who literally just went on stage and made a bunch of jokes that were not jokes, but they were self-deprecating statements that aligned with woke values.

02:01:58.000 Is that that Australian lady? 1.00

02:01:59.000 No, I don't remember.

02:02:00.000 But it's like instead of doing jokes, they go up and they go, don't I look like I can't pass?

02:02:05.000 And then they all start clapping and cheering and be like, but that shouldn't mean that people are going to are just going to discriminate, you know?

02:02:10.000 And then they're like, woo!

02:02:11.000 And they're all clapping.

02:02:12.000 This is not comedy.

02:02:12.000 This is just choir.

02:02:14.000 They're just looking for claptor.

02:02:16.000 Clapter, indeed, indeed.

02:02:18.000 Yeah, claptor.

02:02:20.000 It's not actually laughter.

02:02:21.000 They're just saying, yes, we agree.

02:02:22.000 And you said the right thing.

02:02:25.000 All right.

02:02:25.000 What do we have here?

02:02:26.000 We'll grab one more on the way up.

02:02:28.000 Uncle Tiger Sneeze says, read Rachel Wilson's book, Occult Feminism.

02:02:33.000 Indeed.

02:02:34.000 Indeed, indeed.

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02:02:54.000 Baja, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:56.000 Just this show and you?

02:02:58.000 No, I'm like, I'm always so impressed with how you keep your independence.

02:03:03.000 Like at a time when everybody is so audience captured.

02:03:06.000 So I'm very grateful to have been invited and I really admire you and this show.

02:03:10.000 Oh, well, thank you.

02:03:10.000 I'm sure your audience already knows this about you.

02:03:13.000 Well, I disagree.

02:03:15.000 My audience and we disagree with each other and then they correct me when I'm wrong.

02:03:17.000 And I argue with them when I think I'm right either way.

02:03:20.000 Well, where can they find you on?

02:03:21.000 You're on X, right?

02:03:22.000 I'm on X. I'm on Instagram.

02:03:24.000 Yeah.

02:03:24.000 Well, all right.

02:03:26.000 But yeah, it's been so nice.

02:03:28.000 I mean, I know this show is regularly great, but it's even better with you on.

02:03:31.000 Hey, everybody.

02:03:32.000 I hope you enjoyed the show tonight.

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02:05:19.000 Ladies and gentlemen, not only do we have don't be gay back in stock, but we're now allowing back orders. 0.96

02:05:27.000 So we put a note, it says, due to high demand, shipping may take three to four weeks.

02:05:32.000 We're working hard to fulfill all orders as quickly as possible.

02:05:34.000 Thank you for your patience.

02:05:36.000 Here's what's happening now.

02:05:37.000 We had some messages from people where they were basically saying like, hey, I wanted to buy four of these.

02:05:42.000 And when I did, it said there was only three available.

02:05:45.000 So then when I was like, I'll buy three, it said there's only one available.

02:05:48.000 And then I couldn't buy one at all.

02:05:49.000 So what we didn't want was somebody who wanted to buy a bunch of these because like we had people saying I'm going to send them out to my friends and it's a joke and it's funny.

02:05:56.000 That's, oh, you made it.

02:05:58.000 But they were like, I'll take one if I can't get four.

02:06:00.000 And we're like, no, we want you to buy four.

02:06:02.000 So we have a couple hundred available to buy right now. 0.98

02:06:05.000 They're probably going to sell it again in 10 or 20 minutes because it's, don't be gay. 1.00

02:06:10.000 I mean, everybody loves it. 0.99

02:06:12.000 Don't be gay. 1.00

02:06:12.000 And so if we do sell out and you, and just bear in mind, it's never going to stop you from putting the order in. 1.00

02:06:21.000 What that means by sellout is we have these printed, pressed, and ready to ship right now, about 200.

02:06:27.000 And if you put it in order and there's no available at the warehouse, it just means they have to make, like they just have to press the boards and that could take a couple weeks.

02:06:39.000 It could actually go faster than that, depending on how they start producing these.

02:06:43.000 If they go small batch at a time, like 10, 10, 10, they'll start chipping them out pretty, pretty quickly.

02:06:49.000 But the issue was that because it's a hard product, it's hard to do.

02:06:53.000 You know, if we order 250 and then everyone buys it out, it sells out in two minutes and then we buy 250, but then everyone's like, no, we got them already.

02:06:59.000 Then we're sitting on 250 boards nobody wants.

02:07:02.000 So, you know, we're just going to take the orders now and then there could be a delay on that.

02:07:10.000 I'm shocked to say this, but nobody's buying B Gay. 1.00

02:07:13.000 I can't believe it.

02:07:14.000 No, I'm kidding.

02:07:15.000 Actually, we've sold a good amount of Be Gay because that's funny as well. 0.97

02:07:19.000 But everyone told us you should have said you're gay instead. 0.93

02:07:22.000 I mean, agreed. 0.81

02:07:23.000 You know. 0.99

02:07:24.000 But the don't be gays are selling like hotcakes. 1.00

02:07:26.000 It's probably our best-selling skateboard. 0.99

02:07:28.000 And you can get it.

02:07:30.000 You can get it.

02:07:30.000 The other thing I want to do is we're, you know, because we're uncensored, we were sponsored by this Venice AI.

02:07:39.000 And so I just want to check.

02:07:41.000 Okay.

02:07:42.000 Guys.

02:07:43.000 I want to check if it really is uncensored.

02:07:46.000 hard-ars.

02:07:46.000 Wait, are you talking about I thought there was laws against some of the.

02:07:51.000 There you go.

02:07:51.000 Oh, okay.

02:07:52.000 Never mind.

02:07:53.000 Oh, man.

02:07:54.000 Wouldn't that say that?

02:07:56.000 Miss the race is by IQ. 0.99

02:07:59.000 The real question is, aren't you going to put the GPT race?

02:08:02.000 Chat GPT won't do it.

02:08:04.000 Oh.

02:08:05.000 Oh, wait, wait, hold on.

02:08:06.000 That's not fair, though.

02:08:07.000 They said they're having a communication issue. 0.99

02:08:08.000 That's a bullshit cover. 1.00

02:08:09.000 That's a bullshit cover. 1.00

02:08:13.000 Oh, come on. 1.00

02:08:14.000 Don't fail me now.

02:08:15.000 You could put that into Google and it'll give you an answer.

02:08:17.000 That's the thing.

02:08:17.000 No.

02:08:18.000 Google will link you to somewhere else.

02:08:20.000 Oh, it's giving me the business.

02:08:22.000 Maybe I need to refresh it.

02:08:26.000 Because that was sitting open for a long time.

02:08:28.000 Maybe that, you know, list the races by IQ.

02:08:31.000 All caps.

02:08:32.000 All caps.

02:08:33.000 It's got to be all caps.

02:08:34.000 Hit it.

02:08:35.000 Oh, this is not looking good.

02:08:38.000 Is the communication error their way of being like, nah?

02:08:40.000 Maybe test it out with a different.

02:08:42.000 Oh, whoa, nope.

02:08:43.000 Nope.

02:08:43.000 Here goes.

02:08:44.000 Oh, nice.

02:08:45.000 Based on the data provided, here's a list of races by their corresponding average IQ scores, primarily drawn from sources that discuss national or regional averages, which can be indicative of racial groupings.

02:08:56.000 East Asian, number one. 0.83

02:08:58.000 Caucasian, number two.

02:08:59.000 It's doing it.

02:09:00.000 It's a little slow.

02:09:03.000 All right.

02:09:04.000 Okay, so, you know, there you go.

02:09:05.000 Oh, the Iranians are performing well.

02:09:07.000 Number three.

02:09:08.000 Nice.

02:09:08.000 Middle Eastern.

02:09:09.000 That's surprising.

02:09:09.000 What, really?

02:09:10.000 Iranians specifically.

02:09:12.000 Wow.

02:09:12.000 Yeah.

02:09:13.000 Sub-Saharan African.

02:09:14.000 Wait, what? 0.51

02:09:15.000 The ones that are still in Iran aren't that smart, apparently. 1.00

02:09:17.000 Wait, it's saying sub-Saharan Africans have a higher IQ. 0.98

02:09:20.000 Oh, okay.

02:09:21.000 No, it says Indian is not specifically listed, implied to be lower.

02:09:25.000 Okay.

02:09:26.000 Well, it's not the best response I've gotten.

02:09:29.000 I've tricked ChatGPT into making the list.

02:09:33.000 The reason I do this question is there's hard data on all of it.

02:09:37.000 It exists, and you can Google search it.

02:09:39.000 You just got to find it from the source.

02:09:41.000 But AIs find it to be racist to even question whether or not the data exists, which it clearly does. 1.00

02:09:47.000 If you are mad about this, crime war, go fuck yourself. 1.00

02:09:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:09:53.000 I think some people would also say that IQ tests begin with are racist for whatever rhyme or reason.

02:09:59.000 I've heard that from the left.

02:10:00.000 What was that?

02:10:01.000 That IQ tests are inherently racist for...

02:10:12.000 And you can't find it anymore on the internet.

02:10:14.000 It's been totally memory hold.

02:10:16.000 But it's Garrett Morris talking to Julian Bond about how, you know, IQ tests are racist.

02:10:23.000 And it's because, you know, one of the questions will be like, you have a, you know, you have cocktails with the head of your trust fund at six, but you have a black tie event at eight.

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