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00:07:49.000Epstein jail guards used fake body to trick media waiting outside the prison while his real corpse was loaded into a van unnoticed.
00:07:59.000Files claim jail guards overseeing Epstein's Epstein used a decoy body to mislead reporters gathered outside the prison after his death while his real body was secretly removed.
00:08:08.000According to an internal memo, a jail supervisor told FBI agents that staff at Manhattan's Metro Center, Metropolitan Correctional Center, staged the ruse amid an intense media presence following Epstein's apparent suicide in 2019.
00:08:19.000The files allege that boxes and sheets were arranged to resemble a human body and loaded into a white van marked as belonging to the office of the chief medical examiner, prompting reporters to follow as it drove away.
00:08:30.000Unbeknownst to media, Epstein's actual body was instead placed into a black vehicle that left the facility unnoticed, allowing officers to transport the corpse privately.
00:08:40.000The alleged deception was carried out after an official warned guards on a large number of journalists gathered outside the jail and said he would arrive at the loading dock with a separate black vehicle to remove the body.
00:08:49.000The records also reveal investigators highlighted a handwritten note found inside Epstein's cell at the time of his death, which was not treated as a suicide note.
00:08:58.000The note, which investigators said was difficult to read, appeared to list grievances about jail conditions, including complaints about food, showers, and bugs.
00:09:07.000Here's a question for you: Why did they put a fake body to like, I understand the idea was like, we want to trick reporters.
00:09:23.000I mean, aside from the fact that he's high-profile, unless there was some kind of something nefarious going on.
00:09:30.000Were they worried the paparazzi chasing a vehicle resulted in it crashing under in a tunnel, which would kill the high-profile individual, perhaps?
00:09:58.000The worst part about this whole Epstein saga is there's so many legitimate criticisms to make of the investigation and the way all of this was handled.
00:10:07.000I also believe there's some like missing footage from the time where it was in the minute and a half or something.
00:10:11.000He was able to potentially have killed himself in the jail, right?
00:10:16.000Which obviously shouldn't have happened.
00:10:18.000There's this that shouldn't have happened.
00:10:20.000He probably shouldn't have ever been let out or been given a sweetheart deal when he was convicted in Florida to begin with.
00:10:25.000So there's just so many of these strange little inklings that I think give a lot of credence to conspiracy theories about this.
00:10:32.000Yeah, considering his connections, I don't think it's that odd that he was given a special deal just because he knew so many people, you know, so many people in powerful places.
00:10:45.000Like he shouldn't have gotten any kind of sweetheart deal, but it's not a surprise that someone with his, you know, his connections got someone to make a call.
00:10:54.000It wouldn't be a surprise if someone made a call and said, hey, take it easy on Epstein.
00:10:58.000So just to play devil's advocate, and I wouldn't say I would do this or I don't think it's right to do this, but I think one of the things that maybe the hospital was trying to avoid is the media circus that this can produce.
00:11:08.000And then it would prevent doing business as usual.
00:11:10.000So the hospital wouldn't like to be flooded with a bunch of people from the media.
00:11:13.000And I mean, this is just a cope, I guess, but that could be the idea.
00:11:17.000And I've covered a lot of different things in federal buildings and different buildings that prefer not to be filmed and photographed and having the media circus surrounding them.
00:11:25.000Maybe this is just a bad cope for the whole situation.
00:11:28.000The reason why I'm going to go ahead and say that is incorrect is because we have images of them bringing Epstein's body into the hospital, meaning the press was already there.
00:13:28.000And I'm not going to act like this is definitive proof, but I will call it some evidence.
00:13:34.000Evidence doesn't mean it's definitively true.
00:13:35.000It just means this lends itself to the idea that Epstein wasn't the body that was brought in.
00:13:41.000And then we've got the incorrect date on the press release, which, again, has answers, but is still weird.
00:13:47.000And then we've got this, where they admit in the files they put a fake body in there for the press, which at bare minimum means we thought we had a photo of his body being removed and we don't.
00:13:58.000So now, for the people who genuinely believe he's alive, because there's a lot of fake photos going around, you can't even tell them we saw them remove the body because they're going to be like, nope, that's admittedly a hoax.
00:14:08.000I think there's one name that keeps getting forgotten and not mentioned here, which is Bill Barr.
00:14:18.000He bungled this entire saga so poorly, you would think that they were trying to get more conspiracy theories out of it.
00:14:25.000And it's actually causing real problems.
00:14:28.000Seriously, like it could only be worse if Bill Barr got caught trying to do a weekend at Bernie's with Epstein's body to get back into the island.
00:15:43.000Is a real failure of Barr to allow all this stuff to happen, especially with someone.
00:15:50.000Again, I'll mention how connected he was with someone that is such a high profile, even though I think that the average person didn't have a real good idea of who Epstein was prior to this.
00:16:03.000Now, there's people that were absolutely in the know that were online that knew about him and had all the details and were sure that he was a bad guy.
00:16:15.000I'm not saying that there weren't those people.
00:16:16.000I'm saying that the average person, like, he wasn't a meme until after he died, you know?
00:16:22.000And so, considering how well connected he was, you'd think that the attorney general would be like, all right, we got to make sure that this is clean, considering his connections, considering how many people could be implied in nefarious stuff if this isn't done right.
00:16:37.000And they just were like, man, whatever, man, just by your, by the seat of your pants, you know?
00:16:41.000Well, I don't think it should be lost on anyone that Barr was in charge of the Bureau of Prisons as AG, right?
00:18:45.000There are a bunch of people who have named Jeffrey Epstein that have like posted videos on social media being like, hello, my name is Jeffrey Epstein.
00:22:19.000Because back in the day, people loved swastikas.
00:22:21.000And about a mile, like in my neighborhood, let's put it like that, about a mile from where I grew up, or in my neighborhood, about a mile from where my house was.
00:24:49.000Have you guys ever seen the viral video where the woman is like, I'm traveling in South America and I found this beautiful little German village in Argentina?
00:24:58.000And then somebody commented like, nobody tell her.
00:25:06.000It is kind of weird, though, because we were talking about this the other day with Nick Fuentes' point about how Hitler's a historical figure.
00:25:13.000And he makes an interesting point that people today treat Hitler like he's still alive, like he is still an active participant in history.
00:25:23.000Again, whether or not you view him as the most sinister of figures or you take a similar approach to Nick, where he was like, he's in the same vein as Genghis Khan or Napoleon, like, yeah, they're bad guys for a variety of reasons, but nobody is going like, oh, God, Alexander the Great, oh, heavens.
00:25:39.000There is going to be a point where, and I think you see it with Gen Z, especially with Nick's audience, they don't look at Hitler the way, look, my grandfather fought in World War II.
00:25:59.000Jen Alpha is going to be like, I don't know anybody who cared.
00:26:02.000All the World War II vets are going to have passed on, and he's going to just be another figure in history.
00:26:08.000Well, and that's why it's so terrible that the left just calls everything Nazis and fascists.
00:26:14.000Like these young kids are going to grow up and they're seeing their friends getting called fascists for showing up to work on time and everything, you know, and believing in traditional gender concepts.
00:26:24.000Like if that's it, then they are going to reject anti-Nazism, which we should not be doing.
00:26:30.000Like we should be anti-Nazis, obviously.
00:26:34.000But the left is ruining that because everything to them is Nazis.
00:26:37.000Yeah, I mean, this is an argument that's been made for, I mean, Jordan Peterson was making this argument 12 years ago, you know, if you call everyone a Nazi, if Milo Yiannopoulos is a Nazi and Hitler is a Nazi, it's like, this is a ridiculous comparison.
00:26:53.000The problem is, I was just thinking about this, is that these people could not define the ideology of Nazism.
00:27:31.000And they go, is that what the Nazis believed?
00:27:34.000So, when they're told that what they do and what they enjoy is what the Nazis are, they will falsely believe that things they do is what Nazis did or there's some relation.
00:27:43.000And this will lead them into being actual Nazis or praising actual Nazism because they don't know what it actually is.
00:27:50.000That's the problem of what the left is doing, calling everybody Nazis and Hitler, which they still do for some reason.
00:27:56.000Yeah, it's because it's the worst thing they can think of, partially.
00:28:01.000And also because like the left tends to be like the communists, and communists think anything that's not a socialist or communist is a fascist, and all fascists are just Nazis.
00:28:14.000They don't even make a distinction between like Italian fascism and Nazism, which Nazism is fascism, but is a very specific and unique form of fascism.
00:28:25.000The issue, you know, the thing is, I would describe Nazis and fascists as brutal and it's a brutal authoritarian ideology, but I wouldn't call them dumb.
00:28:37.000I would just call them, you know, malicious, brutal, self-interested, a lot of things.
00:28:48.000The function of communism itself, like the idea, is something that if you like literally just wrote down their idea, you'd be like, hey, that literally makes no sense.
00:28:58.000If someone came up to you and said something like, you know, the famous quote or the phrase, from each according to their ability to each according to their need, sounds so brilliant if you're dumb as a box of rocks.
00:29:10.000It would be like someone saying that I can power my car off of cheese.
00:29:16.000You're like, that is a very obviously false statement.
00:29:20.000Yeah, that's a statement intended to be understandable to a child.
00:29:25.000You cannot put cheese in your gas tank.
00:29:38.000And, you know, that's why they make them different sized holes.
00:29:41.000They want to make sure you don't put diesel or vice versa.
00:29:44.000Literally, the concept of from each according to their ability to each other according to their need presupposes a society in which people do not produce enough for the needs of each other, but get from the abilities of someone else.
00:30:45.000When you go to, there was a video I did a commentary on where this guy's like, communism just means that the workers will share and it's like, you are very stupid.
00:30:54.000The powerful elites who know it doesn't work are just manipulating them because they need foot soldiers to tear down a system they don't like so they can steal stuff.
00:31:01.000I will tell you that the movie or the TV series that I watched that really scarred me and exposed the real horrors of communism was Chernobyl.
00:31:10.000If you watch that, the bureaucracy and the covering your ass across the board, it literally could have destroyed most of Europe with nuclear radiation.
00:31:19.000And they were going to let it happen just to cover their own ass.
00:31:22.000To be fair, in Japan, for a different reason, they were going to allow this disaster to continue.
00:31:28.000So when Fukushima happened, they would not admit the severity of the disaster.
00:31:32.000And they kept saying everything was fine for the sake of preserving their honor, which is the most dishonorable thing you can do.
00:31:38.000The only thing I'll give the Japanese credit for is that the old people volunteered to go into the reactors to try and alleviate the crisis, knowing they would die.
00:31:47.000And they interviewed some of these old people saying, I lived my life.
00:31:57.000Americans is a kind of culture, unfortunately, it wasn't always this way, where someone shoves their child out of the way to escape the burning building.
00:32:05.000I don't think conservatives largely are like that.
00:32:07.000But I believe undeniably liberals are absolutely the kind of person who would chuck their kid through the flames to get themselves out, as evidenced by the fact they get so many abortions to better their own lives.
00:34:01.000Benjamin Sisko, the commander of the Deep Space Nine space station, false flag kills a senator from a rival species, let's just call it country, to trick them into joining the war on the side of the Federation.
00:34:15.000It is one of the greatest television shows ever made, and it doesn't get near as much credit as the next generation does.
00:34:21.000But the gist of it is this: Captain Picard, The Next Generation, loved it was this, it was this image of we are a great and noble society, and we've created this beautiful liberal system.
00:34:32.000The Dominion shows up, starts massacring, and they're losing the war.
00:34:36.000So Sisko conspires with another guy to, he didn't know this was going to happen, but the general idea is they blow up a ship carrying a Romulan senator, tricking the Romulans into thinking they were attacked by an enemy, the Dominion, to force them to join the war on their side.
00:35:06.000But they're not realizing the only reason it's perfect is because we blow people up around the country, I'm sorry, around the world to enforce the petrodollar, the neocon vision of people like Elad and John Bolton saying it is because we invade these countries, blow them up, and put the gun to their heads, you can pretend you live safely.
00:35:22.000Barack Obama, the Democrat, blew up children and young men.
00:35:26.000And when they called him out for killing civilians, he said, well, they're military-aged males, so it doesn't count.
00:36:14.000There's a whole episode in the new show where they're going to the museum of Benjamin Sisko talking about how a great, what a great man he was and how he did such good things.
00:36:22.000And it's laughably insane because you know the only reason they're, it was funny, I was watching Nerd Roddick.
00:36:30.000He's like, the one time they're not insulting and condescending to a man, you know, blah, blah, blah.
00:36:36.000And I'm like, but he didn't point out in his breakdown that the reason why was because Benjamin Sisko was black and the writers are super woke.
00:36:44.000So they were like, if we're not going to praise Janeway, even though she's a woman, she's white.
00:36:58.000The annoying thing about it to me for the most part is Benjamin Sisko, I actually think Picard's my favorite, but Benjamin Sisko is real close because I absolutely love that episode, that show, showing this guy confront the realities of their liberal dream that didn't pan out when war came to their doorsteps.
00:37:18.000It's also why I like the reboot film Into Darkness, although I'm not a huge fan of the reboot movies.
00:37:23.000The premise of it was they discover that there's a black ops militarization happening in Starfleet and they find a dude is making massive warships.
00:37:34.000The Federation is a bunch of liberal, woke trash in the movie.
00:38:02.000I think if you want to maintain a liberal society of feminism in your borders where people can hold hands and sing songs under a multicultural rainbow, you need to have men prepared to go kill to sustain that system from the people who would come and take it from you.
00:38:21.000Well, I mean, particularly to the part, to your point at the end, like if you don't have defenders that will protect the society from outside threats, the women are certainly not going to be able to protect them.
00:38:34.000And another component of this is, I don't know if you guys saw the, what was it?
00:38:39.000There's a viral video, and you might know this, Terry.
00:38:41.000There's a woman saying that wokeness is feminization.
00:39:12.000The great quote she had was James DeMoore's paper arguing that maybe women just don't want to, you know, at the macro level, work in this industry.
00:39:22.000They didn't argue whether he was right or wrong.
00:39:24.000They argue that he hurt their feelings.
00:39:26.000And that is the female approach to it.
00:39:28.000The issue that I see is a certain portion of men, maybe, I don't know, 20% to a third, maybe more, are deferential to women for two reasons.
00:39:38.000You've got, and pardon my French, I have to use this term because it's the academic term, sneaky fuckers.
00:39:45.000This is an academic term, refers to males of a species that use deception or subterfuge to mate.
00:39:52.000So there are men who will tell a woman anything she wants to hear, and ladies know it too.
00:39:57.000But then you have other guys who are deferential largely because they don't care.
00:40:02.000These are guys who have seen the worst things imaginable.
00:40:05.000And so when a woman complains about something, the guy's like, I literally don't care.
00:40:09.000She says, I think we should do this, whatever.
00:40:11.000It's like, brother, I have seen a man lose his hand in an accident.
00:40:15.000I have seen a guy fall into a meat grinder.
00:40:36.000I do think it's mostly the sneaky fucker.
00:40:38.000I mean, a lot of times it's like if you're in a situation where like you're at work or whatever, there's no benefit to trying to fight with a with a coworker that's a female.
00:40:48.000Well, Helen Andrews, like part of this larger piece was she makes a really great point that hit me upside the head, which is that if you have a workforce that's too much like a fraternity, you can get a lawsuit against you for being sexist against women.
00:41:04.000But there's no equal for if your workplace is too much like a Montessori daycare, right?
00:41:09.000Like if it's too feminized, you're good.
00:41:34.000So I had a funny bit on this show a few years ago.
00:41:37.000And I was actually, I recently told someone again, I can't remember who we were.
00:41:40.000It was the green room while we were in Florida.
00:41:42.000And a really great way to explain the divide.
00:41:47.000Women will try to argue, feminists, sorry, not women, but feminists, the woke, will argue that we need these laws in place for equality, right?
00:41:57.000So they say, like, we have protections against sexism so that the workplace can be equal.
00:42:00.000And I said, okay, let's do a thought experiment.
00:42:03.000Elad walks into the building and Phil sees him.
00:42:06.000And Phil goes, whoa, Elod, nice suit, man.
00:43:18.000But so my dad was in the pizza business, right?
00:43:22.000And he was at my Uncle Billy's pizza place and they were doing like the gay thing, like talking with the lisp and making fun of each other, calling each other gay.
00:43:30.000And one of the waitresses was there and laughing along with it.
00:43:34.000Well, fast forward 10, 15 years, and now she's a Democrat.
00:43:37.000So she's like, oh, and Bobby and Billy Schilling would mock gay people at the restaurant by talking gay.
00:45:09.000It's not that, not that women don't get violent.
00:45:11.000It's just that with men, we have like evolution has made us like understand that if you're around guys, you disrespect another guy or something like that.
00:45:58.000So most people, and I know a lot of you know this because you watch the show and you've learned so much about chickens, but there's a myth that if you put two roosters together, they kill each other.
00:47:04.000They said, what would happen if we took all of the hens from the top of the pecking order and then created a new hierarchy of only the super hens?
00:47:15.000So they set up a bunch of chicken coops, 12 hens, whoever came on top, they took it, put it in a new coop, came on top, and they did that and created a new bunch.
00:50:08.000And we would just need business development for it.
00:50:11.000But the idea was to go to like schools and do events where it's like we pitch to them, hey, we want to show Chicken City.
00:50:21.000And it's a virtual feed the chickens and it's a way for them to learn about farm animals.
00:50:26.000And like the general idea was not to make money off of schools, but to just promote it so you can say like families, hey, you know, watch this with your young kids if they want to see chickens.
00:50:36.000And it's a way to bring the petting zoo or the farm to your home without any of the travel or stuff like that.
00:51:20.000Riders detectives were investigating Epstein for allegedly recruiting girls as young as 14 to provide massages that turned sexual.
00:51:26.000The information about Trump's alleged call makes up just a small part of the four-page FBI report.
00:51:30.000Now, Donald Trump has said in the past he kicked Epstein out.
00:51:32.000Mike Johnson said Trump was an informant against Epstein and then walked those comments back.
00:51:38.000I think Trump was an informant against Epstein.
00:51:42.000I think that there are certainly a lot of nasty things about Trump in the Epstein files, perhaps.
00:51:48.000And I think the ones that exist pre-2024, by all means, investigate.
00:51:54.000The problem with the Epstein files, and this is, look, I'm glad they got released.
00:51:59.000I support Thomas Massey and Rokano in working to get them released and get more names under redacted.
00:52:03.000However, it must be stated that there are documents from 2024 and 25, well after Epstein's long dead, FBI crime tip documents that falsely malign innocent people, one of which was Tony Hawk.
00:52:16.000And this is an insane fabrication where someone called the FBI tip line claiming Tony Hawk was on Epstein's island while she was being trafficked there, which is just the most ridiculous lie imaginable.
00:52:36.000So that's the problem with a lot of the later whistleblower claims that came out in 24 and 25 after they already tried destroying Trump and his legacy and accused him of being involved in this stuff.
00:52:48.000So that being said, when Trump says he read on Epstein, when Mike Johnson said he was an informant, oops, I mean, no, no, I take that back.
00:52:55.000And then you find out that a police chief was like, Trump called us and begged us to go after him.
00:53:00.000Sounds like Trump was actually anti-Epstein for a while.
00:53:04.000And I think one of the reasons why Trump didn't want the Epstein files released is several reasons.
00:53:09.000One of them might have been these documents may prove, as they actively may be right now, that Trump was informing against other powerful individuals.
00:53:17.000Imagine like, I don't know, like Reid Hoffman or some of these people with Epstein all the time finding out that Trump was actively working with police to investigate the people involved in Epstein's inner circle.
00:53:29.000What do you think the odds are that this was Trump playing 4D chess, playing the long game?
00:53:36.000You slow walk this in the first admin.
00:53:39.000You let the Democrats build a frenzy over this.
00:53:42.000And then you come out, oh, no, it was actually Gates and Clinton and Prince Andrew.
00:54:01.000But the later allegations are ridiculously insane.
00:54:04.000I can't even repeat some of them, but they are top-tier retardation if you believe them.
00:54:09.000Like, I'm not, I can't repeat them exactly, but claims in 2024 that Trump took a measuring tape and then went into a pageant of underage girls.
00:54:18.000Like, no, guys, this is absolutely made-up fantasy nonsense like the Brett Kavanaugh stuff.
00:54:24.000But I think you see that email from Epstein to himself where he accuses Bill Gates of getting an STD from Russian hookers, accidentally giving it to his wife, and then trying to slip medication into her drink so that she gets cured without noticing it, and how he wants $30 million.
00:54:41.000Trump goes to Gates and says, listen, you're on my side now, and we're going to make sure these files don't come out.
00:55:34.000This is an insane false allegation that stems from the fact that there's an action sports photographer named Mark Epstein who took pictures at Tony Hawk's wedding in Fiji.
00:55:43.000And someone must have seen that photo from Mark Epstein, believed it was Jeffrey Epstein's brother, assumed the island they were on was Epstein Island, and then called the FBI and made a fake claim because it's just ridiculous.
00:55:54.000So Trump probably was concerned about that.
00:55:56.000I think Trump was also concerned about how it makes him look.
00:55:59.000That being said, I ain't cutting Trump any slack.
00:56:02.000Now that we know that they've covered up the co-conspirator, conspirator documents, there's a document saying that they were investigating co-conspirators Epstein.
00:56:08.000There's photos and videos of minors and children.
00:56:11.000Dan Bongino was like, look, a lot of these things were hearsay and, you know, fake tips that were uncorroborated.
00:56:17.000All of that is true, but there's still no excuse for them not exposing these deep, dark, corrupt pedos.
00:56:26.000I can understand Bill Gates didn't do anything criminal if it is true that he got an STD from Russian hookers and gave it to his wife on accident.
00:56:42.000It's just internal drama that's gross and embarrassing.
00:56:47.000But there is other stuff in there that's already being brought up that I would say is shocking to the conscience that Trump called it a hoax.
00:56:58.000Well, I mean, the hoax thing from Trump was not about, or at least it seemed to me that it wasn't about whether the stuff in there was a hoax.
00:57:17.000So whether or not, I mean, obviously, people on the left, Democrats, they're going to say that that's not what Trump had, but the only reason they're going to say that is because their entire existence is to countersignal anything that Trump says.
00:57:29.000I believe the reason that the president didn't want this to come out, there's a few reasons.
00:57:33.000I think Tim hit on a few of them, but one of the other main reasons that he didn't want this to come out because he thought it would be a huge distraction.
00:57:40.000When he calls it a hoax, I believe he's really just saying it's a distraction.
00:57:44.000It's a hoax as in it's a distraction and preventing him from accomplishing more in his administration.
00:57:49.000So instead of Congress doing things that he'd like to do, Thomas Massey is introducing legislation to expose these files that are going to lead people on a wild goose chase that won't satisfy anybody.
00:58:00.000I think also many people in its administration over-promised and then under-delivered, and that makes everybody in the administration look bad.
00:58:08.000So for example, A.G. Pambondi over-promised and under-delivered and made all these influencers look like complete morons when she hands them these files.
00:58:16.000Dan Bongino and Kash Patel have been talking on podcasts for ages about what are the Epsteins' files hiding?
00:59:59.000Some of these names are people who are criminally being criminally investigated.
01:00:03.000We're not going to release their names because that's evidence against them.
01:00:06.000And so my response is just don't release evidence.
01:00:10.000The problem then is no one will be satisfied because they can't release evidence.
01:00:14.000These guys should obviously be charged and convicted to the fullest extent of the law.
01:00:18.000But as I understand, as of right now, Glenn Maxwell was finding minors for Jeffrey Epstein, and he didn't particularly want to share his minors.
01:00:28.000That was the story they said before the files came out.
01:00:30.000And then we found out about all these people who were there.
01:00:32.000Well, just to be like real quick, if it's true that Maxwell was trafficking minors to Epstein, to Jeffrey, and then Epstein was having all these people over his island, those people all just, they were stricken blind, deaf, and dumb the moment the young trafficking victim appeared in front of them.
01:01:04.000So, you know, Reid Hoffman goes to party on the island as he does just around the time that every time it's like a Benny Hill thing.
01:01:11.000Like, Ghelane Maxwell's got a bunch of little girls she's trafficking, and Reid Hoffman's plain lands, and they're all running around frantically.
01:01:17.000And every time Reid Hoffman spins around, they spin behind him and run to the wrong door like in Scooby-Doo.
01:01:22.000Dude, I don't think people are going to be satisfied until their political enemies are found in photos and potentially AI-generated photos with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghelaine Maxwell holding hands.
01:02:02.000It's seeing Thomas Massey grandstand on this issue so aggressively.
01:02:06.000You know, we have nothing to say, but, you know, he goes on CNN to go trash the president and I don't know, and say, ICE is doing too much out there and not supporting the one big beautiful bill, among other things.
01:02:16.000That's what Thomas Massey wants to be focused on.
01:02:18.000Not all the illegal immigrants in our country, but on a wild goose chase for, you know, whoever he doesn't like in these Epstein files.
01:02:51.000So but the point being, like, other, other than the, the, the Epstein stuff, I think that that Thomas Massey is actually one of the more Donald Trump like 95% of the time or something like that.
01:03:10.000But the point that I'm making is he votes with Donald Trump or along the lines of what Donald Trump wants, something like 95% of the time.
01:03:17.000So the vitriol that you attack him with, I really think it's unnecessary.
01:03:20.000Yeah, I think on the bills that matter, he votes against, and that's why they're trying to get somebody to replace him in Congress.
01:03:24.000I got to say, one of the bills in which he's voting against Trump's agenda would be releasing the Epstein files.
01:03:32.000I believe Thomas Massey was 100% correct in his efforts to get these files published and released.
01:03:37.000So if the argument is Donald Trump does a lot of good things and we should support him all the time, even when he's trying to block the release of the Epstein files, my answer is going to be absolutely not.
01:03:48.000I'm going to be with Thomas Massey and Rokana on this one.
01:03:52.000We've had him on the show one time and I've interviewed him, I think, twice on the morning show.
01:03:56.000He's a good dude, but I don't agree with him for a lot of things.
01:03:59.000And I think there's a I mean, look, he's a children of immigrants, so he has a much different view on these things, but he's a nice guy and he's willing to have a conversation.
01:04:10.000He's worked with Massey on getting these documents.
01:04:12.000When I called him out, because he proposed releasing the files with no, with no protections, meaning it would have released all the child abuse material, I tweeted it.
01:04:21.000He immediately responded, came on the show, told me I was right, and he was going to make sure that any bill to get these files released would guarantee the protections.
01:04:32.000Because I thought it was a poison pill where he was like, we're going to get the Epstein files released, forcing Republicans to vote no because they would have released victims' names and abuse materials.
01:04:45.000It is entirely Trump's fault, the DOJ's fault, the FBI's fault on the mishandling of the Epstein story from the PR perspective and the release of the files.
01:06:20.000I think she withdrew many of her accusations.
01:06:23.000Yeah, and then she got hit by a bus, which she didn't actually get hit by, said, please, I just need to see my kids, and then died four days later.
01:06:30.000I think she was one of the most ridiculous pictures.
01:06:37.000Hey, I need to pull up the specific details, but I think she had a long history of being an unreliable witness.
01:06:42.000And then they actually tried to bring the case forward and couldn't move forward with her in the case because she was so.
01:06:47.000I don't know if that's true, but perhaps what's the fact check that I wanted to break it down.
01:06:53.000Let's jump to this next story from Kalshi.
01:07:07.000Now, I don't actually care whether Trump does, but sitting across from me is White House correspondent Alad Eliyahu.
01:07:13.000$297,639 wagered on whether or not Trump will say yes.
01:07:20.000I'm sorry, Trump will say the phrase bad bunny, yes or no.
01:07:24.000If you pick that he will and you wager $100, you will win $412.
01:07:30.000So if you put, okay, let's do $1,000 that he's going to say it, you will win $4,116.
01:07:38.000The reason why I find that absolutely crazy, in normal sports betting before the emergence of prediction markets, nothing I could do is going to change whether or not Sean Strickland wins a fight, UFC.
01:07:49.000So I can go on my show and say I'm rooting for him.
01:08:05.000This, Caul Shi has prediction markets that millions of people can affect the outcomes on.
01:08:11.000So it's against the rules on Caul Shi to be to insider trade, meaning if you have the ability to influence the outcome of one of these trades and you trade on it, it's against their rules.
01:08:18.000But there are people who are nailing these predictions on polymarket as well.
01:08:23.000Like someone bet, was it 32 grand on when Maduro was going to be captured?
01:08:28.000And then he did and they won something like $400,000.
01:08:54.000When you go to the White House, can you ask the president to clarify the name of the individual he criticized on Truth Social about the halftime show?
01:09:28.000Yeah, but like he was saying once that he didn't want to have shows in the United States because he knows Hispanics show up and he didn't want ICE to hang out outside of his concerts.
01:09:35.000This is the interesting circumstance in the Caul Shi markets and how we as we are not.
01:10:30.000And I think there's a lot of criticism.
01:10:32.000It is insane to me that the chance of this has dropped 13 points since this morning when I brought this up.
01:10:40.000People are still saying Trump won't say it, and they're buying heavily against it.
01:10:43.000And I'm pretty sure everybody in this room can make a phone call and get pretty dang close to making that happen.
01:10:50.000Like the point is, Trevor Noah at the Grammys, he says, I'm Trevor Noah, potato.
01:10:56.000And if you had a bet on polymarket that I was going to say potato at the Grammys, you just won a lot of money, Noah underscore 22, implying it was him who did it, which I don't think he actually did.
01:11:06.000But it is a weird reality with these prediction markets that a lot of them are easily influenced by, look, there are, if like Carolyn Levitt, one of the mentions here, I'm going to pull this up, is, let's see what we have here.
01:11:59.000If she said stupid question, I think it was like $100, one like $5,000.
01:12:04.000If she said the phrase stupid question.
01:12:06.000So I have a couple of different thoughts here, but I thought it was worth mentioning that the Coinbase CEO actually a few months ago on an earnings call, you know, took note of this and then just dropped all of the words.
01:12:35.000So the rule, no, because here's the difference, because then the rule is self-defeating.
01:12:38.000Because then if somebody does have insider knowledge, you want them to bet on it because that will make them a more effective prediction market.
01:12:46.000So if you know somebody may prompt the president on Bad Bunny, you'd want them trading on that because they could change the outcome of that.
01:12:53.000So here's the other thing I want to bring up with the Caulishi stuff.
01:12:56.000And full disclosure, and Chef Takalshi, they do sponsor us.
01:14:57.000So that means instead of having half a million dollars in the bank where it's just being crushed by inflation with terrible interest rates, I can just put it in here and then at the end of the year, clear out $36,000, getting some of the best.
01:15:12.000Now, to be fair, that's only an 8% margin because it goes up as you're like stocks.
01:15:17.000No, no, it's the more money you put in, you change the payouts because you're buying something.
01:15:22.000You only have so many offers or bids liquid.
01:15:25.000So, you know, really, you want to find that happy medium.
01:15:27.000Maybe, maybe $200,000 would pay you better.
01:16:04.000I don't see a reality where at this point, with as mainstream and no one's upset about it, Democrats and Republicans aren't complaining about it.
01:16:16.000But then you can make the argument that you better not put your money in Bank of America because I trust Chase Bank more than I trust Cal Shi.
01:16:30.000I still think it, I'm not recommending anybody actually do it, but it is still pretty crazy that you will clear $30,000, $40,000 because there are people stupid enough to put up money thinking the government is going to come out and admit aliens exist.
01:17:18.000And again, I'm not advising anybody to do anything.
01:17:20.000But if you listen to this show, you are on the cutting edge, the bleeding edge of news, breaking news.
01:17:26.000Sometimes news breaks on this show when we pull up the tweets in real time saying this thing just happened.
01:17:34.000For most people, they are not that tuned in.
01:17:38.000And I've said this time and time again.
01:17:40.000If I actually traded stocks based on the news gathering job that I did, like if we hired a day trader and I just said, watch my videos and then make trades based on what I say, I'd probably be a billionaire.
01:17:50.000I'd imagine for anybody in this room, for you, knowing what you know about what's going on, you could probably make a million bucks.
01:17:58.000Well, I think a lot of the, what I like about Cal Shi is you're not betting against the sports book, right?
01:18:03.000The sports books have really, we, my buddies and I, we all had this NFL betting strategy that worked really well betting fourth quarter unders, but it's totally changed.
01:18:13.000But I just, I think that this is much better because you're betting against other people.
01:18:20.000I also think that it's, if you understand politics, you can, you can make a ton of money off of these shutdown fights, right?
01:18:29.000I made a little bit of money off of the first government shutdown last year because it was obvious Democrats were not going to open up the government until after that November election.
01:18:40.000I think this is a great way to make money if you understand what you're doing.
01:19:35.000So the general idea is if you find a contract that will end soon, like 2028 Democrat nominees got $47 million wagered or contracted, I think is the right word.
01:19:48.000But you're not going to find that out for two years.
01:19:51.000Or actually, no, for what, a year and a half for the next Democratic nominee.
01:19:55.000That's a crazy long time to tie up your money.
01:19:57.000No, actually, it's going to be two years.
01:19:59.000It's going to be like, what, mid-20, early?
01:20:01.000No, it's probably going to be what, early 28?
01:20:27.000No one's telling us, hey, Elad, we are not going to do it.
01:20:30.000It's just that the general idea we've gotten from people on the show and the way things have been explained have led us to believe.
01:20:37.000I'm more informed than the general public.
01:20:39.000And the general public from watching this show are more informed, and the people who watch it are more informed than the average member of the public.
01:20:45.000My point ultimately is, even outside of that, you take a look at, I mean, the Aliens one's a really good example.
01:22:54.000Being able to bet on so many of these different things really starts messing up people's incentive structures, though, and can lead to really gay stuff.
01:23:02.000Is there a market for finding Savannah Guthrie's mother?
01:23:36.000Call she is a little bit more above board.
01:23:39.000Like Polymarket comes off to me like a dude in like a hoodie, and he's like hanging out, leaning up against a brick wall, being like, hey, you want to make a bet?
01:23:47.000And Kalshi is more like the casino guy in the vest being like, place your chips.
01:23:52.000So I don't mean that in any way to be derisive to either company, but when you look for the weird bets, call she is pretty much very straightforward.
01:24:00.000Although I don't, I kind of think that's brutal.
01:24:04.000So maybe to be derisive to these companies, I think they are contributing to the degeneracy of our society.
01:24:09.000Like I thought it was bad when sports gambling became ubiquitous, and now we have Kalshi and Polymarket, even advertising with people like CNN.
01:25:17.000There is certainly a problem emerging where we have way too many casinos and mobile apps where there are a lot of people now that are gambling that didn't before.
01:25:27.000But the bulk of people who gamble are not addicts who are losing their life savings.
01:25:56.000But to get status, like the highest tier, you have to spend over a year, $15,000 at the casino.
01:26:03.000And don't get me wrong, that's a lot of money.
01:26:05.000But that's the highest, that's their highest member tier outside of their invited tier, which is where you get millionaires and billionaires and stuff.
01:26:12.000If you want to get general status, the card's free.
01:26:42.000Just to make a further point about that, as I understand that that is to be the case, but I also think we're dealing in a time of economic stagnation, and young men are already struggling with so many different things.
01:26:50.000Young men are struggling with drugs, young men are struggling with women, young women are young men are struggling to find jobs.
01:26:56.000And now we're throwing more of these cultural problems.
01:26:59.000And this is contributing to the cultural problem.
01:27:01.000But to add on that, now you have a shitty job that you go back home to and you think, oh man, I barely have any extra money around.
01:27:26.000Okay, so let me explain to you why you are wrong because the majority of money generated is by single-use small bets.
01:27:34.000People who make sports bets, they're like fantasy leagues and things like that where someone puts 20 bucks down.
01:27:39.000It would be impossible for a casino to exist if they drained the bank accounts of everybody who showed up and they were all homeless after the fact.
01:27:46.000Alcohol, the booze industry is not supported because everyone's addicted to alcohol.
01:27:52.000It's because people sometimes have some drinks.
01:29:37.000The casinos book these things at a loss because bringing in a thousand people to a venue means they're going to spend 50 bucks on drinks, maybe 100 bucks on slots, and then leave.
01:29:49.000I have absolutely no problem with people having fun.
01:29:53.000The idea that the problem we are facing is I do agree that the ubiquity and access to something does create the ease of access to it, makes it well, I guess the simple way to put it is the more casinos there are, the easier for it, easier for addicts and degenerates to get caught up in it.
01:30:48.000First, I will say, don't anyone dare come to me and say that we should ban all these things.
01:30:55.000I had all the access in the world as a teenager to drinking, to smoking, to, I mean, playing street craps, whatever you want to do with the gangbangers.
01:31:06.000I also had good parents, so I never did any of those things.
01:32:01.000But again, a guy who gets off of work on a Friday and he's worked, he worked 40 hours, his hands are calloused, and he says, I just want to watch a game with my friends.
01:32:11.000I want to put 20 bucks down, get a little excitement from the game with a smile on my face and make jokes.
01:32:20.000Sometimes people are addicted and that is a problem.
01:32:23.000But we're not, I don't think it makes sense to ban something simply because some people abuse it.
01:32:28.000So as far as access goes, do you have any issue with people having, you know, in any state being able to access any of these sports betting apps or a casino online casino on their phone?
01:32:38.000I have no problem whatsoever with people being able to access the mobile apps, but I do understand an ease of access will increase per capita the amount of people who will be addicted or see those problems because a state that never, like Texas has no gambling, right?
01:32:55.000They only have private gambling like poker rooms.
01:32:57.000So there are people who just can't do it.
01:32:59.000It's like, does supply drive demand or does the demand drive supply?
01:33:02.000And does this help make it become a part of the culture?
01:33:07.000You're talking about a cultural phenomenon.
01:33:09.000No, but the supply of the ability to like these casinos and these different apps to gamble on, I think this helps push the demand for more of it.
01:33:16.000I think it is like the amount of- But I agree with you that like culturally, and if you were raised right and if you're a good, religious, sane, sober, moral person, then yeah, you probably wouldn't gamble.
01:35:49.000I can tell you one easy way I think that everyone could get behind that a lot of people aren't talking about to fix the gambling situation, especially sports betting.
01:35:57.000So I discovered this with our group of friends.
01:39:06.000And they have something called Chai Something New, where it's chai spice with a dried orange, orange juice, sparkling water, and there's some other stuff in it.
01:40:39.000do not drink uh i had a glass of wine a week or so ago because you get asian flush or whatever they call it some Sometimes from the phosphates?
01:41:00.000When most people drink, they're drinking to socialize.
01:41:02.000And it actually really helps them loosen up.
01:41:03.000I know a lot of people are very uptight, but drinking allows them to probably talk to people or talk to women that they wouldn't ordinarily.
01:41:09.000That's not to say go get trashed and go out.
01:42:03.000Anyway, anyway, before we go to the chats, my main point is I'm fairly libertarian a lot of issues.
01:42:10.000I think if we, the way to describe it is if this nation, if every person in this country was as devout as Seamus Coughlin, you would need no police.
01:42:54.000That being said, we don't have people who are like this.
01:42:57.000And it seems like typically we get policy proposals from these neocons, not just pick on neocons, but the policy proposal of you are a 30-year-old degenerate.
01:45:30.000And we're going to grab your Rumble Rants in the chats right now.
01:45:34.000Let's see, we got Joey Giggles says, is Trump actually vindicated?
01:45:38.000If so, arrest everyone else so they can win the midterms, even though it's all fake and gay and retarded, and we are all going to be slaves to the machine.
01:45:45.000Well, the good news is when you're a slave to the machine, at least your brain will be plugged into it.
01:46:35.000Man, so I made a pitch where I said to conservatives, would you be willing to give up 80% of your income, 80% income tax and all money you make, and that money goes towards funding pods that liberals can live in, where we pump roach protein to their bellies to sustain them, and we plug their brains into the matrix where they can live in any universe they want and no longer be a part of society.
01:47:02.000And everyone in the chat said, yes, I would accept that wager.
01:48:32.000The fascists were in Italy and the Nazis were in Germany.
01:48:34.000The communists are all over the place.
01:48:36.000But when you look at all the communist countries, there are two large components of their ideology.
01:48:41.000Outside of the economic functions of it, because the Nazis were not capitalists, they were not really socialists either, but they were state-enforced socialists in a sense.
01:49:43.000The corporations worked towards the whims of the state, de facto.
01:49:47.000The Nazis, it was culturally enforced, where the famous quote, this is from an academic paper that I read about the issue was that an officer would go to a factory and say, why aren't you producing steel for the war effort?
01:49:58.000And the pressure was social, not government mandate.
01:50:02.000Communists, on the other hand, just came by force and it was largely social as well, but it was basically a part of their ethos.
01:50:08.000Like, we want to take your private property.
01:50:10.000If you look at every communist country, one of the things they do is they purge all of their history and all their traditions.
01:51:12.000I think Voyager ended like 03, and DS9 was like 2001.
01:51:15.000Voyager is about a Federation ship that gets flung on the other side of the galaxy, and it's going to take them 70 years at maximum warp to make it home.
01:51:30.000It's interesting because it gives you a Federation crew outside of the Federation exploring wild and new things that you're not going to see in the traditional canon.
01:51:39.000But there's an episode where they're like, we're going to do an experimental thing to go as fast as possible.
01:51:43.000And they go so fast that Captain Janeway and Tom Parris de-evolve into lizards, have sex.
01:52:05.000And the most disappointing thing is that DS9 concluded with very, very profound philosophical implications for the ideologies that Americans believed in of this liberal society and its natural conclusions.
01:52:16.000That is, I think the episode's called In the Pale Moonlight, famous episode where they false flag, assassinate a senator to force them, to trick them into joining a war on the Federation side.
01:52:30.000And what needed to happen is if they were going to bring back Star Trek, we needed to have the next arc.
01:53:41.000On the Orville, they did an episode where there's what I loved about Star Trek The Next Generation is that it was addressing the philosophical consequences of technological advancement or decision different trees that could have occurred on Earth.
01:53:57.000Basically, they go to a planet where, what's a good Star Trek The Next Generation?
01:54:03.000In TNG, they go to a planet where everybody is catered to by an AI.
01:54:08.000There is a machine that was built by their ancestors that provides for them.
01:54:28.000And so they're just, it's, I guess it's still technically sexual reproduction because two males will reproduce and one of them will lay the egg or something.
01:54:38.000However, as it turns out, they actually do have females, but surgically transgender them as children to make them male.
01:54:47.000They find out that one of the guys, his male partner, actually was born female, but got sex change surgery.
01:54:54.000And they have an argument where Seth McFarland says, you can't sex change kids.
01:55:21.000And when they leave, the planet blinks out of space-time and then reappears.
01:55:25.000For this planet, every time it pulses out of existence, it exists for 500 years in another dimension before returning.
01:55:32.000When they go back to the planet, they find that because she healed this, you know, cavewoman, they developed a whole religion around her divine healing touch and come to worship her.
01:56:51.000So there's an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation, right?
01:56:53.000Where all of a sudden, there's like a shift and the ship is different now.
01:56:58.000And Gainan, who's played by Whoopi Goldberg, and she did a great job, is she's an alien race and she has a deeper connection and blah, blah, blah, whatever.
02:01:16.000They both go out of business at the exact same time.
02:01:18.000And now your town of 100 people has zero shoe stores.
02:01:21.000That's what happens in economies when populations collapse.
02:01:24.000That is going to happen in every single sector in the next few years.
02:01:30.000It's actually making the housing crisis more difficult to solve because by 2037, I think it's one out of every four homes is going to be basically vacant because of all the seniors that are going to be dying.
02:01:41.000All the boomers are going to be dying.
02:01:42.000And the houses will be worthless because there's going to be too many and no one will have the money to buy them in the first place.
02:01:49.000So when the boomers die and the millennials and Gen Xers, but largely millennials inherit it because Gen X is partly silent generation, inherit these homes, they're not going to be able to sell them because nobody has the money or the equity to take out a loan.
02:02:02.000So right now, boomers buy houses from boomers off of loans based on the value of the home from boomers.
02:02:06.000When they die, millennials get the house that's worth a million bucks.
02:02:09.000Who's going to buy a million dollar house?
02:05:26.000No, I mean, wishful thinking, I think, is more than anything.
02:05:29.000I think, you know, people who are against the regime in Iran are putting themselves in like this sort of delusion and wishful thinking for what they want to be true versus reality.
02:05:39.000And I just don't see the scenario where it makes sense for the president to do this.
02:05:44.000The cost-benefit analysis just doesn't make sense for him.
02:06:03.000I mean, I feel like that's been like what we were supposed to do for decades now to avenge the hostages that were taken during the Iranian Revolution in 1979.
02:07:36.000I do appreciate that neither one of them really knows the Bible at all.
02:07:40.000Like, if you look at the Old Testament, like, Tucker had a layup there.
02:07:45.000The whole Old Testament is about God having to make these covenants with the Jews in Israel, and then they break it, and then they go back and they have to make another covenant.
02:10:34.000Netanyahu has been visiting the United States way too many times.
02:10:38.000I think this is like his seventh, eighth, or ninth visit since the president's become president, way more than any than the next following dignitary.
02:10:50.000I know we're very close with Israel, obviously, and I think that's a good thing.
02:10:52.000But I think Israelis also find it odd.
02:10:55.000The Israelis also think, hey, maybe BB should spend a little bit more time in Israel and the president should be focused a little bit more on domestic issues than international issues.
02:11:05.000And I could understand that criticism.
02:11:07.000I mean, the war in Gaza is basically over, right?
02:12:36.000Then I'm going to have it secretly over the course of a year make small donations to various activist organizations and then get exposed as being the person running it and then have a bunch of people start pointing to these liberals being like you're secretly funded by Tim Pool.
02:16:28.000It's just a why even have a democracy at that point.
02:16:31.000I think you have to make like half a million dollars a year.
02:16:34.000I mean, look, man, I think that it should be the people that are voting, it should be a very small portion of society, honestly.
02:16:43.000So, and I'm not sure exactly, I'm not sure exactly what the right breakdown is, like what the right I'm reading that the threshold is 45 to 50,000 for being a net contributor tax-wise.
02:17:10.000Yeah, it looks like something like half a million plus, like only 3.7, I think the number is, but I'm trying to get the actual hard number.
02:17:19.000I would prefer a system in which parents get to have a vote for each one of their kids over net taxpayers or something.
02:18:12.000Depending on where you live in the state, around 120, maybe easier number is 150 to 200,000 is where you start getting into net taxpayer territory.
02:18:20.000But the issue with it is not everybody is paying the same taxes.
02:20:22.000I mean, look, like I said, I want to see significantly fewer people voting.
02:20:27.000I want to see people that are that are actually motivated to vote, that know how our government works, understand that there are three branches of government, understand that when you're voting for the president, you're not voting for the king, you know, that kind of stuff.
02:20:44.000I want to see people not voting so that, you know, voting for themselves to get some kind of benefit for the government from the government, you know?
02:20:53.000So whatever we can do to disenfranchise people, I think is a good thing.
02:20:59.000So got anything you want to shout out?