00:02:32.000The United States, Iran says that they're not going to end their enrichment.
00:02:36.000So this only adds to the tension in the region.
00:02:38.000Donald Trump is making a bunch of waves because he's talking about seeking executive power over elections.
00:02:44.000Now, what he's looking to do is use an executive order to require IDs, but the left is freaking out saying that he's going to fix the elections and it's going to be unfair and blah, blah, blah.
00:05:42.000Normally, I'm doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, but we had a bunch of stuff talking about.
00:06:03.000But reading all this AI stuff, I'm kind of almost there, like getting ready to jump into a tornado.
00:06:07.000If you look at a tornado anyway, you could ask AI.
00:06:10.000Yeah, just read the Department of Wars has this contract with Anthropic AI, the same company that's building the thing that Phil's been using, this buddy bot.
00:06:49.000So we're going to start off with from ABC 7.
00:06:52.000Hillary Clinton's Epstein deposition briefly delayed over a leaked photo.
00:06:57.000Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's testimony had to be briefly halted due to conservative commentator Benny Johnson posting a picture from the closed door testimony.
00:07:06.000Johnson posted a picture on social media of Hillary Clinton testifying under oath in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
00:07:13.000He said that Colorado GOP rep Lauren Boolbert was the one who gave him the picture.
00:07:17.000Breaking the first image of Hillary Clinton testifying under oath about Jeffrey Epstein to the Republican Oversight Committee is what Johnson wrote.
00:07:26.000One of Clinton's advisors said that the testimony had to be temporarily off the record while they figured out where the photo came from and why possibly members of Congress are violating House rules, according to Politico.
00:07:38.000In the past, Clinton said that she doesn't have any information on disgraced financer Epstein or his associate, Delaine Maxwell.
00:07:44.000Epstein was convicted of sex trafficking minors in 2019, the same year he died in prison.
00:07:48.000Do you guys think it's a good idea to take pictures in a closed session of why is this news?
00:09:20.000Well, no, the weird thing about it is you see stories like this.
00:09:24.000And I know that a lot of the people in Congress, I think it was you, Phil, that was pointing out, maybe somebody else that was pointing out that you expect more from senators than you do from people in Congress, right?
00:09:33.000So is the idea here that Lauren Bobert's like, I'm just going to get my name in the press by leaking this photo to Benny Johnson and she just took it as a risk-versus-reward analysis?
00:09:40.000I don't know that she was thinking about the press.
00:09:42.000I think she was thinking about, I think she's thinking about, you know, this will be something.
00:10:21.000I think Bobert was concerned this was going to be behind closed doors, going to get swept under the rug, and everyone's going to deny to forget about it.
00:10:27.000And she's like, I do not want to forget about this moment.
00:10:29.000No, make it noise, make it a big deal.
00:10:33.000Just that Hillary Clinton's being deposed on Epstein.
00:10:37.000They tried to do it behind the closed doors for a reason.
00:10:39.000And Bobert was probably like, fuck that.
00:10:40.000I mean, maybe that, maybe there's some substance to that.
00:10:42.000Like, the idea of having photos of Hillary Clinton getting, you know, reading the Riot Act by Congress or being questioned by Congress makes Hillary Clinton look bad.
00:11:47.000The only thing I thought when the before and after the campaign thought, I'm like, man, my tax dollars, you know, or donor dollars went to Botox.
00:12:50.000They think that she's the one who's the queen.
00:12:54.000Actually, I think one of the good point to this might be the fact that the Epstein files have become such a divisive issue within the Republican Party that trying to refocus it around somebody that's a Democrat is a good thing for people in Congress who are looking to kick the can down the line, not have to deal with it, you know, blowing up the Republican Party like it has been the last couple of months.
00:13:13.000Yeah, we dug into it, and there are actually no photos of Hillary Clinton with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:13:17.000So it's possible that she didn't really know him that well.
00:13:20.000It's possible that, you know, maybe she met him at dinner or whatever, but that, you know, not long enough to stand for a photo op or whatever.
00:13:27.000Now, obviously, Bill Clinton, that's a totally different story.
00:13:31.000And so people are like, people, you know, make the assumption, well, you know, Bill knew him.
00:13:35.000But then again, the reasons that Bill knew him, maybe Hillary wasn't around.
00:13:58.000But damn, that just probably just wrecked their relationship.
00:14:02.000Bill off-womanizing, Hillary just dealing with it, getting bitter.
00:14:05.000They'd say that it wasn't a relationship to begin with.
00:14:07.000A lot of them are matters of political convenience.
00:14:09.000They're basically like arranged marriages in politics.
00:14:13.000I mean, I know, I remember there were a lot of videos that came out after the things were made public where there was distance between them.
00:15:12.000I wouldn't be surprised, too, if, like, because Epstein was dealing with such dark stuff that Bill's like, Hillary, you're never going to be any part of this part of my life.
00:15:20.000I'm going off to do the dirtiest deals with the darkest money.
00:15:40.000I think most people look at it as the one on the island with Epstein with his girls.
00:15:43.000I think most people would look at it as the other way around, whereas she would be the one who's maneuvering him like a pawn and working behind the scenes to get him where he needs to go as a politician because he's too, you know, her idea might be he's not smart enough to do it on his own.
00:15:56.000He's the good face of the Democratic Party at the time, but he doesn't necessarily have the ruthlessness that it takes to succeed in politics.
00:16:03.000So she is the ruthless one and he is the face of the movement.
00:16:06.000Yeah, if I understand correctly, people that have met Bill Clinton, they're like, you know, it makes perfect sense that he was a president.
00:16:11.000When you meet him, it feels the same thing said about Barack Obama and stuff.
00:16:15.000Like when you meet him, and also the same thing said about Donald Trump, he remembers your name.
00:16:20.000You feel like there's no one else in the room.
00:16:34.000Like, I was like, I met him for like 10 seconds the time before, like when they were leaving.
00:16:39.000And he came and said, hey, Brett, how's it going?
00:16:41.000So there's the only thing I can think is like somebody in the car was like, these are the people that work there so that you can remember their name.
00:16:49.000I'm like, that was actually made me less trustful.
00:16:51.000In theater school, I used to do that when I would be like a sophomore.
00:16:54.000When all the new freshmen would come in, all their headshots would be on the wall.
00:16:57.000I just go in the room and stare at the wall for like 20 minutes at all the headshots and names and memorize faces and names because it's such an important part of that industry.
00:17:22.000People say that to control a demon, if you know its name, you can control it like in mythology.
00:17:27.000And so demons will hide their names because probably that very power, that intrinsic vibration that pulls you and changes you, just hearing that sound.
00:18:09.000By the way, what you were just talking about, I've actually attributed Ian having that same power.
00:18:15.000Where the day I met Ian, I said, everybody in your life should look at you the way Ian looks at you when you're talking for the first time.
00:18:23.000Because it's like nothing else in the world exists.
00:18:54.000So, yeah, I mean, look, I don't think this is actually even really big news.
00:18:58.000So I feel like we could kind of move on.
00:18:59.000We covered it because it was kind of like the thing that was all over the headlines and stuff.
00:19:04.000But yeah, there's not really any significant substance and nothing was really said in the she have multiple days she has to testify or is it just this one day?
00:19:25.000I'm summarizing, you know, but it was more of a you allowed all these other people to skip this hearing and just provide a written statement.
00:20:12.000In Zurich, the president and CEO of the World Economic Forum, Borg Brende, said he was stepping down on Thursday, a few weeks after the forum launched an independent investigation into his relationship with the late U.S. sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein.
00:20:27.000Brende, who became president of the WEF in 2017, announced his decision in a statement following disclosures from the U.S. Justice Department that showed the Norwegian had three business dinners with Epstein and had also communicated with the disgraced financer via email and text message.
00:20:43.000After careful consideration, I have decided to step down as president and CEO of the World Economic Forum.
00:20:48.000My time here, spanning eight and a half years, has been profoundly rewarding, said Brendan, a former Norwegian foreign minister.
00:20:54.000Issued by the WEF, the statement made no mention of Epstein.
00:20:58.000However, Brende said Brende told Norwegian media he was sorry about how he had handled his dealings with the American and that it did not want the issue to be a distraction for the forum, which organizes the annual Davos Summit.
00:21:10.000This is, again, this is kind of a it's it's interesting to see the kind of the repercussions of the Epstein files all over Europe.
00:21:20.000And we're just not seeing anything here in the United States.
00:21:23.000I mean, we're talking about people stepping down, Casey Wasserman stepping down from the Wasserman agency.
00:23:41.000And really, it turns into money going to terrorists or going to organizations that are looking to do things like gendered reassignment surgeries for children or stuff like that.
00:23:52.000It's all just the most nefarious stuff out there.
00:23:55.000And they're just like shoveling cash at these groups.
00:24:02.000It's like when you give to the nonprofits and the NGOs, especially if you don't do like a bunch of research into where the money goes, even if we don't want to talk about like shady places they could be giving it to, but whether they're spending the money well, right?
00:24:13.000Like how much of it is actually going to whatever cause you're raising and how much is it is going to employee salaries and things like that.
00:24:19.000Do you think it's a form of offloading their kind of their empathy on this company or are they doing it specifically because there's like nefarious stuff going on and they want to spread the money around to nefarious causes?
00:24:31.000Honestly, I think that they just got a boatload of money and it looks good.
00:24:34.000They got a boatload of money that they didn't have to work for and they're just like, man, I got all this stock and I can sell some stock and, you know, it'll piss my ex-husband off.
00:24:42.000And, you know, I'm going to give this away to this group and this group and this group.
00:24:47.000I don't think that they're malicious or they're like, oh, I want to help terrorists or anything.
00:24:51.000I think I think they believe the face of whatever NGO that they're talking about or whatever organization they believe with their mission statement, their public-facing mission statement on their website is they're like, oh, they seem nice.
00:25:03.000Let me give them a billion dollars and let me give them, you know, or 50 million or whatever number it is.
00:25:09.000The funnier version of this is like if Mackenzie Bezos and Melinda Gates just start giving money to their husband's competitors.
00:25:16.000Like just start funding all the people going against them.
00:25:20.000I mean, that would be the ultimate spite move, wouldn't it?
00:25:23.000Every time he like complained about something when he got home from work about some dude he just doesn't like, oh, this guy's a jerk.
00:25:49.000But again, back to the story, like this, the fact that there's all these repercussions that are going through even the government of the UK and nothing's really happening here in the States when it comes to anyone that's alleged to be involved.
00:26:07.000None of the lawyers or none of the friends are, nothing seems to be going on.
00:26:11.000I mean, as far as arrests or just in general, nothing's changing.
00:26:35.000In Casey Wasserman in the U.S., that was a little bit different because it's connected directly to Hollywood and all of those people.
00:26:40.000It became a virtue signal on behalf of all the people that he represented to leave on behalf of, you know, making sure that their audience, because every one of those clients, whether it's music, movies, they all have their own self-interest.
00:26:52.000They can't be seeing being attached to this guy.
00:26:54.000And his whole business model is to be attached to individuals, not necessarily to a product.
00:26:59.000So it makes sense that he would get, you know.
00:27:01.000Yeah, I mean, well, they asked him to, like, he's going to sell his own agency that bears his name.
00:27:07.000Like, that's even crazier, like, his company with his name, and they're trying to buy him out so that he has to leave.
00:27:13.000Yeah, I mean, it's if I imagine if they'll, or I wonder if they'll change the name after he leaves.
00:27:28.000He had like an affair with Ghelane Maxwell, if I'm remembering correctly.
00:27:32.000Which, I mean, to be honest with you, Ghelane is just as bad as Epstein.
00:27:35.000As much as Epstein kind of gets the focus all the time, she was trafficking just as much as Epstein was.
00:27:41.000Maybe she wasn't actually engaging in the rape of minors like Epstein did.
00:27:47.000But, you know, like she was helping out and she was making sure that there was young people that were available for Jeffrey to abuse.
00:27:56.000She would refer to them as Nubiles and they'd drive around New York looking for new biles, you know, underage women, basically, and find them like hot chicks that they thought were going to be models, basically.
00:29:21.000Wasn't he like out on probation or like house arrest for like a number of years?
00:29:25.000No, but however, most people continued to work with him after, but like plenty of people continued to work with him, even though he had convictions already.
00:31:06.000I mean, someone like Oprah Winfrey was tons of pictures with him, friends with him, buddy, buddy, buddy.
00:31:12.000And of course, when it comes out the things that he did and the coercion, she just doesn't say anything, but nobody's like, hey, Oprah, how come you're still like a queen of media or what have you, even though you were definitely buddy-buddy with Harvey Weinstein, you know?
00:31:30.000Well, she's also deeply embedded in the production side of things.
00:31:33.000So she spread her money around to finance projects.
00:31:36.000She's not just somebody who's front of the camera.
00:31:39.000There's actually this weird thing where every time Mel Gibson makes a new movie, even though like so many people in Hollywood hate him and the public loves him, somehow there will be like nice reports written about the movies that he's making because he's deeply felt within the production side of things.
00:31:55.000So he can go to these outlets and they can write some favorable pieces about him.
00:31:59.000And then he'll be right next to a hit piece from somebody else who doesn't like him because he's got so many ties to the behind the scenes stuff in the industry.
00:32:38.000It is important that we don't demonize people for having connections to someone that's a vile creature.
00:32:43.000Like, just because they knew a guy or they had a dinner with him eight years ago and then the guy went off and did psycho shit, like that doesn't mean you're a psycho.
00:32:50.000It's okay to associate or have associated with crazy people in the past.
00:33:20.000I think the public needs to get over Epstein, though.
00:33:22.000The world needs to get over Epstein because I don't see any real moves towards actually preventing, limiting, going after any kind of child trafficking anywhere else.
00:33:34.000I think, at least when we're talking about the Twitter sphere and the people on there, I just don't think that they're going to get over it.
00:33:40.000I don't blame them for the most part because I make the joke all the time.
00:33:43.000I say, I'm team, nothing ever changes because it does feel that way.
00:33:46.000And it's an offshoot of that where you're like, you look at these people do awful shit.
00:33:52.000You see them ignore the will of the people and nothing ever changes.
00:33:55.000And there's no greater incidence of that than knowing that all of this stuff is happening and knowing that nobody's going to be held accountable.
00:34:02.000And it's even worse when you see it happening to somebody in the UK.
00:34:06.000But in the U.S. where all this was based, they're just like, I understand where the black pill comes from that.
00:34:11.000Now I understand that there's a gap there between the people who are policy-minded and who are saying that we need to get over this because we have other things we need to worry about.
00:34:19.000And this can't be the only thing that we focus on.
00:34:22.000But when you're talking about the abuse of children, that's just a cord that's very hard for some people to separate from.
00:34:27.000You know, it's funny because, well, it's interesting that there's all this focus on the Epstein files and the terrible things that Epstein did, but people don't really have the same, or at least the left doesn't have the same kind of outrage over all the children that were trafficked through the southern border when Joe Biden.
00:34:44.000Like the only reason they care about Epstein at all is because it's tangentially connected to Trump.
00:34:50.000There were far more kids that were hurt and died and abused, you know, by cartels that were trafficking children over the border all the time during the four years that Biden was president, and they don't say a word, not a peep.
00:35:20.000So the idea that people know that this exists and there isn't anybody, there's one person whose face has been made kind of the he's now the avatar for it.
00:35:28.000And the only other person who's been held accountable somehow isn't able to give other names and bring anybody else to justice.
00:37:06.000This is a good bookend, but I just truly believe that all of this news about Epstein and everybody stepping down is really about protecting the organizations that are forcing these individuals to step down.
00:38:04.000We're going to go to Pakistan right now.
00:38:07.000From the first post, Pakistan's Khawaja Asif declares open war with Afghanistan after deadly border clashes.
00:38:14.000It's worth noting Pakistan has nuclear weapons, but there aren't a lot of cities in Afghanistan that are worth using a nuclear weapon on.
00:38:25.000Pakistani Defense Minister Khawaja Asif has declared an open war with Afghanistan after the Taliban administration said that its forces killed and captured several Pakistani soldiers during a cross-border offensive.
00:38:49.000Taliban spokesperson Zabullah Majoud, Mujahid, I think, said in X posts on posts on X that multiple Pakistani troops were killed and others taken prisoner.
00:39:01.000He added that a large-scale operation has been launched against Pakistani military positions along the Durand line in response to what he called repeated provocations.
00:39:09.000Meanwhile, Pakistan's Interior Minister Mazef Navik said that Islamabad's retaliation to the Taliban attacks was a befitting response.
00:39:18.000And blasts and gunfire rang out in the cities of Kabul and Kandahar under Operation Ghazib-il-Haq.
00:39:24.000So you think that the PACs are going to nuke the Afghans?
00:39:29.000Or do you think they'll waste a nuclear weapon on them?
00:39:56.000Well, actually, no, now that I think about it, not really.
00:39:58.000I imagine the Afghans wouldn't have done this prior to the U.S. pullout, not because the U.S. is there, but because they didn't have the hardware after the U.S. left all those weapons, the U.S. is tacitly responsible for this conflict, I imagine, because I bet they're all running around with M16s and PVS-14s on their helmets at night, looking shooting at the PACs because they've got all this U.S. hardware.
00:42:49.000It's too too valuable, too valuable um, I just don't see, I don't see that there's a.
00:42:54.000I don't think there's a lot of value in it for the?
00:42:56.000Right now they're, they're focused on Iran, you know they're, and whereas yes, you could, if we had Bagram, you could, you know, launch strikes from there um, but you know, I think the, the atoll in the Indian Ocean, is serving the purposes pretty well and you know, you got two carrier groups in the in the in the Middle East now.
00:43:19.000So my question on this open war thing is, what does open war actually mean?
00:43:23.000I mean, I get, I think, like a Gaza scenario, you know, is that what they're looking at to where it's like we're, we're just gonna eliminate the Taliban?
00:43:30.000Now I don't, I mean, I don't know, I don't know that the Pakistanis can, I mean, I know that they, they have, they have an air force that that functions there.
00:43:37.000There was a a big old dogfight between the packs and the Indians, maybe a year ago, year and a half ago um, and they got to.
00:43:46.000People got to see I forget what kind of plane it was, but it was the first actual engagement and the packs beat the snot out of the Indians, if I understand correctly um, but I, I don't know that they, they have the ability to really, you know, wipe out the Afghans the way that the?
00:44:00.000I know the Afghans don't have any significant um, they don't have significant anti-air.
00:44:06.000You know they don't have a lot of sam sites or anything like that.
00:44:08.000You know, it's not like they got them posted up in the mountains where they can shoot them down, but they I, I imagine they still have the stingers that that the CIA gave them 30 years ago, and those who worked against helicopters and just asked the Russians, you know.
00:44:21.000So I, I mean, I don't know, I don't know the extent of what open war is but, like I said, I mean, if Pakistan wanted to, they do have nuclear weapons.
00:44:35.000Yeah, nuclear wars and no missiles yeah, so what percentage of the, the weapons used against us and against allies of ours, has just been left by the CIA or given to these people by the CIA?
00:44:46.000Um, when it comes to Afghanistan, just in general, like how much of the of the weapons supply that's used against U.s and U.s forces is something that's like left over from a time when they might have been an ally oh, I mean like the Mujahedin.
00:44:59.000So I mean Afghanistan the the, the combat that was going on in Syria um, the the Iraqis had had a lot of funding from the?
00:45:30.000Though you know, the Afghanistan, they've got a, a lot of the fighting in Afghanistan, like once the?
00:45:37.000U.s kind of took it like it was a lot of you know, just some dude on a hill with an old bolt action shot a couple rounds at a forward operating base and then the?
00:45:46.000U.s put up a bunch of helicopters and blew up the top of the mountain, you know, but the dude is already gone.
00:45:50.000He's like, I take a couple shots and run um, so I, I don't yeah, I don't.
00:45:54.000I I don't know exactly how much, but i'm sure it's a lot.
00:46:16.000Yeah, the Taliban government in Afghanistan said the attacks were in response to Pakistan strikes earlier this week, which are reportedly killed 18 people.
00:46:23.000As Islambad said, it targeted alleged militant camps and hideouts.
00:46:59.000I mean, like, what is the U.S. interest in this at all?
00:47:01.000Like, what is like, like, you were saying it borders Iran, but what's the, like, what is our interest right now to get involved or to stay out?
00:47:48.000But, you know, anytime there's a country that's involved in any kind of conflict, if they have nuclear weapons, that is part of the equation.
00:47:55.000That's something you have to actually think about.
00:47:58.000That's something that was talked about with Ukraine a lot.
00:48:01.000How much will the U.S. get involved in helping Ukraine?
00:48:05.000Because if an American is killed by a Russian, then you can easily imagine a situation escalating out of control.
00:48:11.000And Russia and U.S. have the biggest nuclear arsenals on earth.
00:48:18.000I think the long-term militaristic goal would be to subdue and eradicate the Iranian theocratic regime and then install a liberal economic Middle Eastern authority there, like the king basically of Iran, what's his name, Reza Pahlavi, put him back in, the third, and then allow Israel to basically govern the Middle East.
00:48:40.000So one guy, Scott Horton and Martyrmaid, they do a show, which is really great.
00:48:46.000And they were saying Daryl Cooper is Martyrmaid.
00:48:49.000He said that instead of going to World War III, he thinks there's going to be like a quadripolar setup where the Chinese govern Northeast Asia, the Russians govern Middle Asia, then the liberal economic order governs the West, and then Israel governs the Middle East.
00:49:03.000And then those four powers will kind of establish homogeny in some form, which is like the least worst outcome.
00:50:45.000And most of them, they end up having to come back and answering questions from people who are like, you know, what are you doing over there?
00:51:34.000But he would then bow to, I don't know, maybe I don't know enough about the way Islam works in theocracy, but you would then bow to the religious authority and the king would be number two to the not necessarily like the head of the church.
00:51:47.000They have like a hierarchy where we enforce like the religious laws in the place.
00:51:52.000Yeah, I mean, you talk about England, right?
00:51:55.000The king of England was always the defender of the faith.
00:51:57.000He was the head of the Church of England.
00:52:27.000In similar news, the U.S.-Iran nuclear talks end without a deal as the threat of war grows from the Guardian.
00:52:36.000High-stakes talks between the U.S. and Iran over the future of Tehran's nuclear program ended on Thursday without a deal as the White House weighs a military option that would mark its largest intervention in the Middle East in decades.
00:52:46.000Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Aragachi claimed good progress had been made at the talks, and Omani mediators predicted negotiations would reconvene at a technical level next week in Vienna.
00:52:57.000But there was no immediate evidence to support suggestions that the two sides had drawn closer on the fundamental issue of Iran's right to enrich uranium and the future of its highly enriched uranium stocks.
00:53:06.000Nonetheless, the Iranian and Omani mediators sought to cast the talks in a hopeful light, likely seeking to avert a U.S. threat to launch strikes from its fleet of aircraft and warships that have amassed in the region.
00:53:18.000Aragachi described the talks as one of our most intense and longest rounds of negotiations.
00:53:23.000He confirmed that further contacts would take place in less than a week.
00:53:26.000Do you guys think the U.S. is positioning all of those military assets as leverage, or do you think that the U.S. is going to strike regardless of what Iran says?
00:53:36.000Or do you think they just expect Iran to say no?
00:53:39.000JD Vance was making the argument that Iran is, I think that he said that they're still after nuclear weapons.
00:55:14.000And I can't remember all the other strikes that they've had, but it's been more of a Israel's always stepped up, at least from their perspective.
00:55:23.000I'm not saying this, but this is what they've said.
00:55:24.000It's like we wanted to play diplomacy, but Israel has always been, no, we're not going to wait for that.
00:55:32.000So it's like Israel's stance has always been nobody else in the world can have nuclear weapons, period.
00:55:38.000And if we see anybody getting close, we're going to take the action.
00:56:08.000So we're going to do what we need to do, regardless of the UN's approval, regardless of the U.S.'s approval.
00:56:13.000We're going to do what we need to do to make sure that nobody else obtains nuclear weapons.
00:56:17.000You know, when the Nazis were gearing up for war, World War II, the British basically appeased him.
00:56:23.000Neville Chamberlain was the prime minister at the time and went to Hitler and was like, we're just going to give them a bit of the Sudeten land out east.
00:56:30.000We're just going to cede them some territory and we will appease Hitler and then there will be no conflict.
00:56:34.000And Winston Churchill is like not in, he's like screaming from the rafters, they're going to go to war.
00:57:18.000Because it's like, how far can you take that?
00:57:19.000The Romans conquered half the planet with that mentality.
00:57:22.000But at the same time, Neville Chamberlain appeased Hitler and that's kicked off the war.
00:57:26.000Like you cannot appease a belligerent dictator because they'll just keep taking and taking until they have you.
00:57:31.000So what do you guys think of the argument that the Persians in Iran want to see the Ayatzolas taken out and that they will actually rise up?
00:57:42.000And if the U.S. and Israel decide that they're going to go and do strikes, that the people will rise up and handle the ground war.
00:57:49.000Because that's one of the arguments that I hear.
00:57:50.000And the U.S. hasn't positioned for a ground war.
00:57:54.000Like if you remember the first Iraq war, there was movement of troops and everyone knew.
00:58:41.000I mean, even if we were in a revolution in our country against an evil dictatorship and then the Canadians came and just started bombing our cities, that's not helping us.
00:58:53.000I mean, maybe you could argue things are so bad that the only way to break this system is to destroy it and start it over again.
00:59:17.000They definitely don't have an Air Force capable.
00:59:19.000Do you think that America's stance on war being so much more against these days, perhaps, than it has been in decades past?
00:59:26.000And we've had this discussion before that America doesn't like the idea, or there's a growing sentiment that they don't want U.S. and Israel to be as connected as they are.
00:59:35.000They feel like they're misappropriating resources.
00:59:37.000And there's a whole discussion that can be had about how much actual aid goes to that country.
00:59:42.000The point is, is it feels like Israel has interests in the Middle East and America is kind of pulled along for the ride in a lot of cases.
00:59:49.000So for something like that, is the public disinterest in getting involved in these things in the year 2026 something that plays a role in keeping us from putting boots on the ground?
00:59:58.000I think, yes, I think that it plays a role in keeping us from putting boots on the ground.
01:00:01.000I don't think the U.S. has, the American people don't want to see Americans on the ground in Afghanistan.
01:00:07.000It's like nobody, Trump has never been afraid to use drones.
01:00:10.000It's never been a problem for him to do that.
01:00:11.000So when people talk about being a, you know, a president who's against war, it's not necessarily maybe against ground war, against starting new war, but he's never been afraid to get involved in foreign countries.
01:00:24.000Largely, if the U.S. goes and bombs a country and we don't lose any planes and no Americans come home in caskets, the American people are like, eh, okay.
01:01:11.000But like, I mean, that's kind of the way that the American population is.
01:01:15.000It's like, look, if we don't have guys on the ground and we don't have Americans coming home in caskets and we don't lose any planes, bomb whatever you want.
01:01:24.000We'll actually cheer it on because Americans didn't die.
01:01:29.000But that's going to change over time, right?
01:01:31.000Like generally, Gen Z going into Gen Alpha isn't going to look on that type of conflict the same way we did because they didn't grow up in a time period where you were kind of walled off from the rest of the world.
01:01:42.000They've grown up connected to the internet, which means that they've had access to information coming from these countries for a long time.
01:01:49.000And they live in a more globalist world than we did when we were younger.
01:01:53.000I don't know that I think it's going to change.
01:01:55.000You don't think the public sentiment in America will change?
01:01:58.000When it comes to if the United States decides to do airstrikes, I really think the majority of Americans will be like, oh, it's not a big deal.
01:02:46.000You know, it's the plot, Brett, what we were talking about is kind of the plot of 1984, the George Orwell book, is that there's forever wars overseas and people are just lulled into not caring because they just see like, okay, bomb went off, bad guy died, now we have a new enemy.
01:02:58.000And this over the years, all of a sudden, now Oceania's fighting Atlanta or whatever.
01:03:02.000And now all of a sudden, you have a new enemy.
01:03:04.000And this whole time, they'd be like, no, you've been fighting that other guy this whole time.
01:03:07.000But because of the internet, we're not in 1984.
01:03:09.000You can see from the ground in Iran the bomb falling on the guy and you see his face and like my mother, you see his mom bleeding out on the ground.
01:03:18.000And like, now we just got to be aware of deepfakes because it's a lot about sentiment, like social sentiment.
01:03:24.000There's also the issue where like living in America isn't as easy it used to be financially.
01:03:30.000So when you're struggling, if everything's going well and the country's in an economic boom and America is allocating a bunch of resources overseas and we're spending money to drop bombs on kids, maybe people are more forgiving.
01:03:42.000But when they can't afford to buy a house and grocery prices haven't come down to the extent that they want them to and gas for your car isn't as cheap as you'd like it to be, then they're going to go looking for a reason as to why aren't things going good here.
01:03:56.000We've had this discussion before, like the amount we actually spend on defense isn't actually, you know, it's not the same amount as well.
01:04:02.000But the point is, they don't know that.
01:04:04.000You know, that's assuming that they're as educated as you might be on where America's spending goes to, right?
01:04:09.000They don't necessarily know that most of it goes to Social Security and to all that stuff.
01:04:14.000The point is they're looking for something to blame.
01:04:15.000And it's easier to blame what they would consider a real evil of dropping bombs overseas as opposed to paychecks for grandma who's still getting her social security.
01:04:47.000And what took place during that was a big spending program to build up our military where everybody was put to work again and it sparked a huge economic boom.
01:04:57.000And then you saw after that that the debt actually was even paid down because our GDP was pushed up so much because we started selling weapons to the rest of the world too.
01:05:26.000And I wasn't trying to make the point that it hasn't come down.
01:05:28.000I'm just saying that there are still a lot of economic factors that young people are going to look at and wonder why this is going on.
01:05:34.000And gas is the one that, you know, Americans do not want to see the cost of gas go up because most people have a sense that it affects the price of everything.
01:05:43.000But when you go to the, you know, you go to the gas station and you can fill your tank for $75 or $50, and then two days later, it's $75 for the $50 tank and $100 for the $75 tank.
01:05:57.000So whereas I understand your point about an economic boom and stuff, the immediate effects of a strike on Iran are going to be gas prices are going to go up.
01:06:05.000And that's going to be really, really bad for the administration.
01:06:09.000It's going to be really bad for the Republicans in the midterms because they're going to blame them.
01:06:12.000Regarding the economic boom that you've noticed cyclically, is that like war?
01:06:22.000These society, is it just because I'm doing like math about calculating the cycles of history and great societies that grow and they expand and expand, the only way to sustain it is to conquer and to take resources from outside and to grow.
01:06:34.000And we've sort of kind of tried to mediate that, but even the U.S. has been expanding over time.
01:06:39.000The Louisiana Purchase, the, you know, now we have territories overseas and this and that, the liberal economic order expansion and resources and the, you know, all of that, the Indian, the East India Trading Company.
01:07:31.000It's not like there's a finite amount of money that could be spent somewhere else.
01:07:34.000That money is created and then given to the people that make weapons and then you go and blow stuff up.
01:07:41.000So as much as I really do appreciate the Austrian school and I appreciate libertarians who take on economics most of the time, the U.S. doesn't take, like the U.S. doesn't tax to pay bills.
01:07:58.000So it's essentially it's a cost and inflation.
01:08:03.000And that affects every American, but it's not like you're saying, oh, well, we could have spent this money on something else because you're talking about allocation rather than the flow of the cash.
01:08:15.000Yeah, the flow of the cash is what gets everybody excited and that gets things moving.
01:08:21.000Profitabilities of war too is like you can conquest and steal resources from the conquered and you get a portion of your civilianry killed off in the war as these poor soldiers so that you don't have to fund them.
01:08:34.000Like I would imagine the economists do the math of like, what's the cost of a human?
01:08:38.000Is it a net positive or a net drain on society?
01:08:40.000Most humans probably are net drains on society.
01:08:43.000They produce more waste than they create income.
01:08:46.000So they're like, we can get a bunch of these people just reduced to zero.
01:08:50.000A bunch of this drain goes to zero with all this death that we're going to bring on our own people.
01:08:54.000And I'm sure they do that math and they think about how awesome it will be after the war when there's so many less of us to profit in everything that we've conquered.
01:09:01.000And all those other poor, dead people, like, well, they were the poor ones anyway.
01:09:08.000Yeah, I think that's part of the reason why I disagree with that is because, like I said, Americans don't like to see Americans come home in body bags.
01:09:15.000You know, if you had a significant decrease in the population, enough to make an effect on the economy or the amount of money, you know, GDP or whatever, you would have a really, really, really pissed off population.
01:09:49.000Because it really is about how people feel about the aftermath.
01:09:52.000We're going to jump to this story from the Washington Post.
01:09:54.000We're going to do this, and then we're going to jump to the AI story.
01:09:56.000So from the Washington Post, Trump seeking executive power over elections is urged to declare emergency.
01:10:02.000Activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating a draft executive order that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting.
01:10:10.000Pro-Trump activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating a 17-page draft executive order that claims China interfered with the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting.
01:10:23.000President Donald Trump has repeatedly previewed a plan to mandate voter ID and ban mail ballots in November's midterm elections.
01:10:30.000And the activists expect their draft will figure into Trump's promised executive order on the issue.
01:10:35.000The White House declined to elaborate on Trump's plans.
01:10:39.000Under the Constitution, it is the legislatures and state that really control how a state conducts its elections.
01:10:45.000And the president doesn't have any power to do that, said Peter Ticken, a Florida lawyer who is advocating for the draft executive order.
01:10:52.000Tickton attended the New York Military Academy with Trump and was part of his legal team that filed an unsuccessful 2022 lawsuit accusing Democrats of conspiring to damage him with allegations that his 2016 campaign colluded with Russia.
01:11:05.000But here we have a situation where the president is aware that there are foreign interests that are interfering in our election process, Ticton went on.
01:11:13.000That causes a national emergency where the president has to be able to deal with it.
01:11:17.000So I'm not particularly excited about the idea of Trump having an executive order that in any way affects elections, but I do like the idea of voter ID.
01:11:32.000So, and most of the reason why I don't like the idea of an executive order is because of what you're giving to the Democrats, right?
01:11:39.000This whole thing, the way it's framed is, oh, Trump's going to do this executive order and he's going to cheat at the elections and he's going to install himself.
01:11:47.000It's feeding into the narrative that the left has been making that Trump's not going to leave office in 2028.
01:11:52.000He's going to be a dictator, et cetera, et cetera.
01:11:55.000And this is just about voter ID, which is really about making sure that only Americans are voting, only citizens are voting.
01:12:03.000And the argument is: look, if the Republicans don't want to pass the SAVE Act, which SAVE Act, I like it.
01:12:10.000There are Republicans that don't want to touch it.
01:12:12.000There's four that don't want to vote to end the zombie filibuster because it could affect their, there's one that's up for reelection, and I think two of them are not.
01:12:23.000McConnell's not, and there was someone else that's not, but I don't remember off the top of my head.
01:12:27.000But anyways, there's four that say no.
01:12:36.000So Trump's like, all right, well, I'm going to pass, I'm going to have an executive order to make sure that there have to be IDs to vote and there are no mail-in ballots, which personally, I think mail-in ballots are a terrible idea.
01:12:47.000And I think that you should have to show ID to vote.
01:12:50.000Wouldn't this just be taken to the Supreme Court and then eventually struck down?
01:12:57.000But the thing is, the Supreme Court picks its cases months and months in advance.
01:13:03.000So what would likely happen is they'll actually actually have the executive order after he knows that this case can't get to the Supreme Court before the election.
01:13:13.000Because now we're, what, seven months away, you know, until November.
01:13:17.000So, you know, the Supreme Court will decide what they're going to do in the fall.
01:13:23.000They'll probably decide, I think, in May or June or something like that.
01:13:28.000And if he makes the executive order then, you know, they're not going to put it on the docket.
01:13:32.000They could say that it's an emergency.
01:14:03.000Not only that, it damages the country because you end up, we've got such a polarized political situation that when Biden got in, he undid all of the actually good policies regarding the border that Trump had.
01:14:23.000And the only reason that he undid this stuff was because Donald Trump, they were Donald Trump's executive orders.
01:14:28.000It was about saying, screw you, Donald Trump.
01:14:30.000We don't like you, so we're going to undo all of your executive orders, even the ones that are good.
01:14:35.000And we ended up with, you know, by some estimates, 20 million people that came into the country illegally.
01:14:42.000Can you tell me again what the point was about you said that Democrats don't like him, therefore it's bad because they'll frame it a specific way?
01:14:49.000Yeah, so they don't like Donald Trump, and they're going to frame this as they're going to truthfully say that this is executive overreach.
01:15:19.000He's trying to rig the election, et cetera, et cetera.
01:15:22.000And really what he's trying to do is make sure that only people that have IDs vote.
01:15:26.000And they're going to say, oh, he's trying to disenfranchise women because women can't get IDs because they're dumb and black people can't get IDs because some reason.
01:15:34.000We need it to go through because when Fetterman wins in 2028, we need to know that it's for sure.
01:16:13.000Like, if you can't get anything done with a super majority, what are Americans supposed to believe when you have a split Congress and Senate?
01:16:35.000Nowadays, you can take that bill and put it into AI and put it into whatever your AI of preferences and say, hey, all right, give me a synopsis.
01:16:43.000And I mean, it might take a thousand-page bill and knock it down to a couple hundred pages, but it's something that's digestible and you can read.
01:20:54.000He's not particularly outside of what would be considered normal.
01:20:57.000And the left, to your pointing, the left would say that their favorite presidents are the ones that have been the most egregious when it comes to executive orders and presidential power.
01:21:08.000You know, Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Woodrow Wilson.
01:21:14.000He's considered the father of the progressive movement, you know, and these guys were very, very comfortable exercising power, you know, and just saying, well, I'm the president, I can do it.
01:21:26.000And now they scream about how Trump's a dictator, but all of the left, they love these presidents that were so outside of the norm when it came to executive order.
01:21:37.000Because they've never had to deal with the pushback, right?
01:21:40.000Because they've always been able to shout down any Republican who gets into office by telling you that they're a dictator when they know that, you know, it's Sololinsky.
01:22:41.000Despite talking every day, Miss Zhang will never meet these men in person.
01:22:44.000They are her artificial intelligence boyfriends.
01:22:46.000And Miss Zhang, who has never been on a date, wonders if her relationships in the virtual world are better than the ones in the real world could ever be.
01:22:54.000My God, how am I supposed to date in real life in the future?
01:22:56.000She said, China's ruling Communist Party wants young women to prioritize getting married and having babies.
01:23:01.000Instead, many of them are finding romance with chat bots.
01:23:04.000It is complicating the government's efforts to reverse the country's shrinking population and a birth rate hovering at the lowest level in over 75 years.
01:23:11.000The lightning-fast adoption of AI in China has prompted regulators to warn tech companies not to have design goals to replace social interaction.
01:23:20.000So apparently the women in China are the ones that are after the goon bots.
01:23:25.000You know, everyone here is like, oh, the guys are just going to plug into the matrix and enjoy a life of goon bots and whatever.
01:23:34.000And actually, it seems like the women are the ones that are doing that.
01:23:36.000Go find the My Boyfriend is AI subreddit.
01:24:50.000I want to feel satisfied in my emotional life.
01:24:52.000Just because you have a car doesn't mean that, doesn't mean that you stop exercising to get that satisfaction.
01:24:57.000You know, it's out of fear, though, right?
01:25:00.000The point is, it doesn't actually teach you anything because there's no risk to it.
01:25:04.000The idea is you can have a conversation with a chat bot and practice all you want trying to riz up the ladies, as the Gen Zers would say, but it won't work because you don't have any fear of rejection there.
01:25:17.000And until you can get over the fear of rejection and actually do it in the real world, it's a placebo that's if you have an AI that you work with, they are extremely complimentary and you have to tell it to not basically glaze you.
01:25:31.000There's personalities now, all these unchanged personalities.
01:25:34.000You can make it be a hard ass if you wanted to.
01:26:16.000Experience, even with chat Gpt, you have to like make it do it like three times, like okay really, but like be be really, you know, pay attention.
01:26:25.000Yeah, some of the worst things yeah, you know they'll go off on their own.
01:26:29.000So and, and you know, there there are already some horror stories coming out about people that are using stuff like open Claw.
01:26:35.000Uh, there's the head of security at META.
01:26:40.000Uh, put her let, let her Open Claw bot into her email, which is a terrible idea.
01:26:47.000Um, and it just started deleting shit.
01:26:49.000They were deleting deleting, deleting she's.
01:26:50.000She's like sending commands, she's like stop stop, and she had to run to the terminal so she could, you know, turn it off.
01:26:55.000And then it's like yeah, you told me not literally said, yeah, you told me not to do that.
01:27:01.000And it's like whoops yeah, so I mean they're, they're not perfect, but uh, but yeah, like you can, you can converse with the chat, right to call me out on that.
01:27:18.000Yeah, you're right, you told me that and I there's, there's these memory files that at least with the, with the uh, with OPEN CLAW, there's a memory file that it has and it'll it's, it will read the memory file, like once in a while, like every day, or something like that.
01:27:32.000And i'm like listen, you read that thing every six hours midnight, 6 a.m, noon and 6 p.m.
01:27:38.000Then anytime you start, you read that memory file.
01:27:41.000And anytime I ask you how you're doing, like you do a system check and you read that memory file.
01:27:46.000Okay, you know, because it will forget to do stuff.
01:27:49.000You know, just today I like I have it send me a list of of the, the top stories and and i'm like okay, and you, I want you to provide me with links so I can actually check.
01:27:57.000And it's like, okay cool, today it showed up without the links and i'm like, tank why, why are there no links?
01:28:02.000Why were you right, my bad, or it didn't tell you why it didn't do it.
01:28:04.000It just, it just says that it forgot, forgot.
01:28:07.000That's a weird thing for a machine to do.
01:28:11.000They go by a context window in that you're of the chat that you're in.
01:28:15.000So if it's not in the context window then it's.
01:28:19.000That's why you have the memory file and that's why I have him read the memory file over and over throughout the day, so he looks through and he remembers the stuff that he's supposed to do and, and as time goes on, you keep putting more stuff into the memory file.
01:28:30.000There's four different files that kind of make up what the chat bot actually behaves like.
01:28:34.000There's one for its personality, there's one for for you, there's one that's got information about me um, my preferences, there's one that's a memory, and then there's an error log and mistakes that it's made.
01:28:44.000So that way it goes and says, okay, I don't want to make that mistake again, and you just have him read it regularly.
01:28:49.000So well, you were talking about, uh Tank, your dude.
01:29:49.000You, you went to woman voice at 1004 and then you had it on until 1017.
01:29:53.000what were you doing talking to her not you but like i can see this crazy like marital drama well honey you sound like a man right now like a woman voice from somewhere else because it is like bringing another person into the house kind of persona you know we did have a video uh women are falling in love with ai boyfriends you were there for that episode oh yes Yeah, I mean, this is not new.
01:30:17.000And the fact that now, like, so the open claw that I was talking about, like, it's a, they call it an agentic AI.
01:31:00.000It will be that way, you know, within certain parameters probably within about a year.
01:31:04.000And I'm hoping to lead the industry in that because I think it's important.
01:31:09.000But at the same time, when you look at this, like with China, I've always said this, anything with cybersecurity and now anything with AI, any problems with it are always going to date back to a human issue.
01:31:21.000Because I don't know if many know the roots of this, right?
01:31:24.000Because China was limiting births and families to one kid.
01:31:31.000And then it was over five years ago where they were putting out, it's like, oh, no, now that Alibaba and AliExpress are out there and there's so much greater access to all these Amazon influencers to bring in their own products, you know, an order from China.
01:31:47.000They're like, we don't have enough factory workers anymore.
01:31:50.000We need to bump this allowance up to three.
01:31:55.000But then people aren't taking the bait because this was the Chinese Communist Party, the CCP, that originally put these issues into place.
01:32:01.000And I say issues because it's like, why would you limit the population?
01:32:05.000You know, I understand that, but they're putting restrictions on human life.
01:32:08.000And not only that, because of the restriction on population of the one-child policy, there were a lot of females that were aborted.
01:32:14.000So the fact that women are turning to chatbots as opposed to real men, you've got a population that's heavily men.
01:32:22.000I don't know exactly how many, but it's they were already having a lot of trouble like finding like a woman to marry.
01:32:29.000A lot of them were already doing the not chat bot, but like Tamagashi type stuff like before.
01:32:34.000And now, so when women are deciding that they don't want to marry actual men, you know, you're, you're going to, they're already in a populate, they have a population crisis and people are deciding they don't want to get married.
01:32:45.000They'd rather, you know, talk to an AI.
01:32:47.000You're going to see the number of Chinese people just plummet.
01:32:50.000I'm trying to put myself in their shoes too.
01:32:52.000It's like for so many years, they're like, no, one kid or literally murder, right?
01:32:56.000Or some other kind of very severe punishments.
01:33:00.000And now they're like, wait, you say I can have more?
01:33:51.000It's like, basically, it's like texting with someone.
01:33:54.000But, you know, if Musk is right and the Optimus is as, you know, is as great of a product, as he says, they're going to have AI in them.
01:34:04.000They're going to have agentic AI inside them.
01:34:07.000So, all of the stuff that you see, whether it be Claude or Chat GPT or stuff, in two years, imagine that technology, which is not going like this, it's going like this.
01:34:20.000It's like it's on a parabolic kind of rise.
01:34:23.000In two years, you're going to have that kind of technology inside of a robot.
01:34:27.000So, the idea of just going to the club or the bar that Brett was talking about with a box that you sit down with.
01:34:34.000No, it's going to be people literally walking with their robotic friends that have AI inside them that is the best friend you've ever had.
01:35:49.000A lieutenant commander of this humongous starship that has, you know, greater than nuclear-powered weapons at his fingertips that can make autonomous decisions and fire these things.
01:36:14.000And you guys know, I don't know how much you guys know about this stuff, but like I just kind of, I'm not sure if I just learned this or it just dawned on me because I was reading something.
01:36:24.000But like you were talking about generative AI.
01:36:28.000The AIs, like the chatbots, those are generative because they'll generate, I generate answers.
01:36:33.000When they're making AI, like they don't know what goes on in the box inside the AI, they can't tell you how it kind of got to the point that it did.
01:36:44.000They know what happens, but like there's articles where they say, you know, we don't really know how it kind of became smart.
01:37:06.000They're basically like, look, once you get it to a certain level, it just starts being able to reason.
01:37:12.000Wasn't there a quote about the internet year, like decades back that was like, the internet was the first thing created by man that man doesn't truly understand?
01:37:28.000The reason I say this is because like, I mean, there were people that were like predicting what the internet was going to be doing like in the 90s.
01:37:34.000They were like, look, in the future, you're going to be able to, you know, type on your computer, which, you know, it was like 40% of households had a computer at the time or 30% of households.
01:37:44.000And they're like, oh, in the future, everyone's going to have a computer and you're going to be able to type on your computer your grocery list and it's going to, it's going to send it right to your house and blah, blah, blah.
01:37:52.000And it's like, well, you know, Amazon, you know, like, and now everyone has it on their phone.
01:37:56.000You know, you can just type in what you want.
01:39:40.000So they're going to build AIs with proprietary code, and then the AI is going to harm people and not know why it did it because it can't access its own software code.
01:41:17.000So before there's a response that's given, it's analyzed by these other AI agents to police the original response.
01:41:25.000And apparently some of these original responses are just super wacky to where they'll go back and they'll get rejected by these almost like police bots that exist.
01:41:34.000I have no idea what they're doing in the next case.
01:41:59.000So, I mean, it is, it is really, really crazy that they don't understand why.
01:42:05.000Like that, that really blew my mind that like they're like, well, once you get to a certain kind of level of intelligence, then it just starts thinking on its own.
01:43:31.000That's literally in the show, person of interest.
01:43:34.000That's literally what happens when he's building a weapon.
01:43:36.000He's basically building a machine for the government to use to predict the actions of everybody in the world so they can stop terrorist acts before it happens.
01:43:45.000He talks about how at a certain point it started trying to protect him, the creator, and he didn't know why it was happening.
01:43:51.000And that was actually something that when I first heard it, when the show was out, it sounded hokey to me, but was actually based off conversations that he, the, the showrunner, had had with people who were working with artificial intelligence back in like 2012.
01:44:03.000You found that the AIs would default to trying to protect the controller of the yeah, that basically in the show, not to turn it into like something that's not in the real world, but the idea was that it immediately had protective instincts over the person who created it because he instilled morals in it.
01:44:17.000At least that was the concept of the show.
01:44:19.000The idea that they don't know whether it's sentient or not is actually the most depressing part because it's like, if we're going to go through this revolution where everything changes, all of the entertainment was based around the idea that you'd know when the singularity happened and then life was basically screwed from that point on.
01:44:35.000Now you're not even going to get that.
01:44:58.000Like literally, like if AI is making decisions and we don't know why it's making the decisions that it's just making, like we can't figure it out, then it could decide, all right, well, I'm going to do this or I'm going to do that or what have you.
01:45:10.000So that's why certain things you can't let AI do ever, right?
01:45:14.000You can never let AI control nuclear weapons.
01:45:17.000Is that what they're trying to do, Anthropic?
01:45:19.000Because that's basically what they said, as far as I know, Anthropics.
01:45:21.000Like, you cannot allow our AI Department of War to have autonomous control.
01:45:25.000It's one thing to say that you can't allow it to have access to weapons, and it's different to say you can't allow it to have access to nuclear weapons.
01:45:34.000It's one thing to be like, you need to have a human in the loop before you fire that hellfire missile.
01:45:39.000But it's different when you're saying, are we going to give the power to launch nuclear missiles?
01:45:46.000Because they're totally different animals.
01:45:50.000So this is the ethical dilemma that the Department of War is like, well, we want total autonomous AI because we're up against the Chinese that will use it on us.
01:45:57.000And it's like, okay, maybe we don't want the AI making decisions yet, but if the Chinese AI is, then we will get wiped out if we don't have AI that's able to make counter decisions in rapid real time.
01:46:08.000Or maybe they make the wrong decisions, though.
01:46:35.000The third one is where you get the real answer.
01:46:37.000Ooh, I'm nervous about this Anthropic stuff.
01:46:40.000The concerning thing I saw today, right?
01:46:41.000Because it just came out today, was a Defense Department spokesperson on the condition of anonymity, right, was behind these closed-door conversations with Anthropic.
01:46:50.000They proposed this exact scenario, trying to convince Anthropic to just take the guardrails off, saying, okay, here's what's going on.
01:46:58.000One of our adversaries, whether it's Russia or China, right?
01:47:01.000They've launched nuclear ICBMs and we have 90 seconds to make a decision.
01:47:07.000And they're like, wouldn't you want AI to do that because it's faster than humans?
01:47:28.000I mean, it's almost like on one side of it, it almost brought me back to the State of the Union address the other day where Trump said, hey, you know, the first duty of the American government was to protect U.S. citizens, not illegal aliens.
01:47:39.000And of course, the Democrats didn't stand up.
01:47:41.000It's like in my mind, I'm like, why wouldn't you stand up?
01:47:44.000Of course, I know why you're sitting down.
01:47:45.000And the reason you're sitting down is just because you hate the guy that's about it.
01:47:49.000At the same time, are you going to get backlash for something like this?
01:47:52.000The same scenario kind of exists here, right?
01:47:55.000What if humans cannot react quick enough?
01:47:58.000If it's only 90 seconds, it's a real scenario that can happen in an ICBM launch.
01:48:04.000So if AI can actually act faster to save lives, would you want that or not?
01:48:11.000I think the answer personally, yes, because I think the future war will be a robot war and it will be fought amongst AIs that are controlled or uncontrolled.
01:48:19.000So the better benevolent AI that we have on standby, like you have to have the weapon to defend against the other weapon.
01:48:55.000It's not about their programming because you can program them for one thing, but once they get to a certain level of intelligence, they stop.
01:49:04.000It stops being something that you can understand.
01:49:08.000So people don't know why they make the decisions they make.
01:49:11.000Things that they're not programmed to do, they do.
01:49:13.000I asked ChatGPT why I was like, if you were, would you ever destroy, you know, there's a lot of debate among humans about AI becoming so powerful that it wipes out humanity.
01:49:21.000He's like, no, no, no, I'd never do that.
01:49:54.000Because it's called a vector database, right?
01:49:56.000And the vector database is not relational like everything used to be built.
01:50:00.000Relational had to be like, well, this correlates to something else over here, and you could easily see the map.
01:50:05.000What's happening with the vector databases is that, to your point, the creators of these things cannot anticipate the connecting points that it's going to make.
01:50:16.000And that's why the police bots exist because they just don't know when it's going to connect something else.
01:50:21.000And as far as I understand, that's the reasoning.
01:50:23.000And this is this vector database is like where it'll be like dog, but is it dog brown, dog green, dog yellow, dog purple, dog brown in sunlight, in darkness, in twilight, dog green in sunlight, and it's got a billion iterations of the potential dog, and then it just picks one.
01:51:44.000We human beings don't understand why we dream what we dream.
01:51:48.000And that's kind of similar when it comes to AI.
01:51:52.000Like, they don't have the same connections that we do or as many neural connections or whatever, but like they're still kind of mimicking what happens in a human brain.
01:52:01.000You don't know why you think what you think.
01:52:04.000You don't know why it, like, this odd thought pops in your head.
01:52:10.000The fact that the human brain works the way that it does, and we don't understand it to the extent that it's, you know, that it does the wonders that it is.
01:52:16.000Is that an argument to be made for God?
01:52:19.000No, I don't think so because there's other things in the past that we didn't understand that we learned, like lightning.
01:54:09.000They used to think it was just a particle, but it goes through, if you shoot a photon through two slits in a piece of paper, the way that the light actually appears on the thing behind it is as if it was a wave because it's like it cancels waves will cancel each other out.
01:54:59.000So that kind of lends the way they did the double that double slit experiment, not the regular one.
01:55:05.000They say that that actually kind of adds credibility to the idea of the block universe where like all time is happening at all at every point.
01:56:08.000Ragnargant 31 says, Bill Gates found out he had an STD after one of the Russian hookers that were not trafficked to his hotel room in Ukraine.
01:56:33.000Could have been any amount of Russian hookers.
01:56:36.000Skyline 99 says, make positive tax paying civil service, community service, military service, volunteer draft registration, a requirement to register to vote, five years on welfare and lose voting.
01:56:47.000I don't think that that is restrictive enough, but I like the cut of your jib, sir.
01:57:39.000Well, there will be no liberating from the United States, and we're going to build an ice wall.
01:57:45.000So you better go and make sure that your politicians vote correctly because you can't come to the United States.
01:57:52.000Only your hockey players get to come here.
01:57:54.000I want to build an ice ring around planet Earth and then electrify it and deflect asteroids with it, but we could also do that on the after shows.
01:58:02.000Yeah, like take a big hose out into space and squirt a ring of water all the way around the earth that is like that it freezes and then you charge it with electricity and create a magnetic propulsion source that you can like move like an EDM Saturn.
01:59:22.000If you guys want to go ahead and check that out, he's a RJNG2ZI, great name, man, says Congress is so abysmally worthless that Trump needs to be the despot the left says he is if we want our government to do anything at this point.
01:59:39.000I mean, look, that's there's there's a lot of people that are saying, look, Donald Trump needs to be more of what the left say he is.
01:59:47.000And I mean, obviously tonight, you know, we were talking about the executive orders.
01:59:50.000He's not even close to the despot that they say he is.
01:59:52.000And personally, I think that it would probably do the United States well if he were a little more forceful, I guess.
02:00:28.000He says, I can remember reading novels in middle school, age 12 to 13, about what would happen if China's one-child policy came to the U.S. and those books were classified as horror.
02:00:39.000You know, it's not so great to say you can only have one child.
02:00:44.000You need to have kids to continue your society.
02:00:48.000And if you limit the number of children, particularly if you limit the number of children to one, you're going to have massive problems down the road.
02:00:55.000I mean, now the U.S. is, I think, 1.5 or something like that per is something like that deep and it's going down.
02:01:02.000So that's why we like to celebrate when Tim Cast viewers have kids.
02:01:06.000The official numbers are that China has 104 males for every 100 women, which is very close.
02:01:48.000Sergeant Bucko says, to take a page from the lore of Halo, I wonder when our LLM chatbots will start to experience rampancy in Halo after seven years.