Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - ITS BEGUN, FBI Launches MAJOR Fraud Operation In California Election | Timcast IRL

00:02:55.000 Yo, the FBI has descended on Skid Row in California, going after homeless people, maybe not going after them, but investigating voter fraud following the California primary elections.

00:03:08.000 Now, I know a lot of people are saying, I want results.

00:03:11.000 I don't want to just see the FBI going to look at it now, but this is the best we can expect right now.

00:03:16.000 I mean, how would you feel if they weren't doing anything?

00:03:19.000 So it's absolutely fantastic news. 1.00

00:03:20.000 The FBI is moving in on these voter fraud schemes using the homeless. 0.96

00:03:25.000 It doesn't mean we're going to be guaranteed a victory, but it is very good that someone is taking this seriously. 0.72

00:03:29.000 So, shout out to these agents that are getting the job done because at the same time, LA is trying to legalize non citizen voting.

00:03:38.000 That's right.

00:03:39.000 They want to bypass the whole scheme they got in place where you can send in a ballot.

00:03:44.000 I'm going to say this real quick.

00:03:45.000 This is not a joke, not an exaggeration.

00:03:48.000 Many people have come up to me in the street and said, Tim, I'm confused about California and what you were saying.

00:03:52.000 Let me just say in California, your ballot can arrive seven days after the election.

00:03:52.000 Explain it to me.

00:03:59.000 Hand dated, not through the post office or any kind of mail carrier, private or otherwise.

00:04:06.000 And the signature could be a picture of Mickey Mouse.

00:04:09.000 Not a joke.

00:04:10.000 And it will count in that election.

00:04:13.000 That is how they vote in California.

00:04:16.000 So that's a problem.

00:04:18.000 But at least the FBI is going after these schemes involving the homeless.

00:04:23.000 And hopefully it stops LA from just bypassing all of that and getting non citizens to vote.

00:04:28.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:04:29.000 Plus, we got a bunch of other really big news.

00:04:31.000 Joe Rogan.

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00:04:51.000 There's nothing to complain about. 1.00

00:04:53.000 It's the stupidest thing imaginable. 1.00

00:04:54.000 They're mad about everything, no matter what happens. 1.00

00:04:56.000 Well, I'll tell you what I'm happy about.

00:04:59.000 You know, Pride's canceled.

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00:09:01.000 Let's go.

00:09:02.000 Here's a story from the New York Post.

00:09:04.000 FBI agents descend on Skid Row in massive voter fraud probe after stunning claims of election bribery.

00:09:12.000 They say about 20 agents swooped in a notoriously blighted area after homeless people living there claimed they'd been paid cash to sign multiple registration forms, forge signatures, and fill out voter information ahead of the mayor's race and governor's primaries.

00:09:26.000 The California Post witnessed three plainclothes agents fanning out across Skid Row's run down streets just before noon, interviewing dozens of people while taking notes.

00:09:35.000 Federal Homeland Security investigations agents also participated in the probe.

00:09:39.000 The officers, dressed in jeans, sweatshirts, and baseball caps, spoke to locals who appeared to point them in the direction of where to look.

00:09:47.000 Agents conducted up to 50 interviews asking if individuals were paid to vote or were aware of anyone else being approached.

00:09:53.000 The DOJ confirmed that federal agents were investigating a criminal matter but declined to comment further.

00:09:57.000 The FBI said it does not comment on ongoing investigations, but the Post investigation determined it was linked to voter fraud allegations.

00:10:05.000 And I just want to stress, ain't no allegations here.

00:10:07.000 We saw the video from James O'Keefe.

00:10:09.000 These people, one guy, he's like, I'm Teresa.

00:10:12.000 And it's a guy.

00:10:13.000 And he's filling out the registration form.

00:10:15.000 So, what they do is a variety of things.

00:10:18.000 And we've heard stories of this for a while, but James O'Keefe captured this.

00:10:21.000 Shout out to the work of James O'Keefe and his crew.

00:10:25.000 They will either get signatures, because if you want to get on the ballot, you need signatures.

00:10:29.000 So, they go to the homeless and they say, Just sign these names.

00:10:33.000 They will go to them and say, We want you to register to vote.

00:10:36.000 What does that do?

00:10:37.000 They will give an address to the homeless person of a homeless shelter.

00:10:41.000 Then, about a month or so before the election, when universal mail in ballots are being sent out, a homeless shelter might receive 100, 200, 300 mail in ballots, one location with no one to accept them.

00:10:53.000 The question then becomes for what purpose do they have all of these ballots sent to these homeless shelters?

00:10:59.000 Well, now we're getting a bit speculative, but speculation is that activists who are paid to collect ballots, like $2 or $3 per ballot filled out, will go to a homeless shelter to collect these unfilled out ballots by homeless people that no one knows where they are.

00:11:14.000 They will then have them signed out by homeless people.

00:11:16.000 It's actually quite simple.

00:11:17.000 Here's what you do.

00:11:18.000 So you find a homeless guy named John Smith, and you're like, How do I find John Smith?

00:11:22.000 And the homeless shelter says, He's usually in Skid Row.

00:11:25.000 You walk up to one guy and you say, Hey, if you're John Smith, there's $5 with your name on it if you fill out your ballot.

00:11:31.000 And the guy goes, Yeah, sure, I'm John Smith.

00:11:33.000 That's the conspiracy.

00:11:34.000 We don't know for sure, but we do know on video they are filling these ballots out.

00:11:38.000 So let's roll, baby.

00:11:40.000 I also want to stress big news.

00:11:43.000 June 23rd is when we're expecting.

00:11:45.000 The Supreme Court to hand down a plethora of rulings.

00:11:49.000 The nuke is about to drop, my friends.

00:11:52.000 Just before the greatest of American holidays, if they rule in this mail in voting case, it could put an end to universal mail in voting, early voting, and otherwise.

00:12:05.000 No more counting belts after election day.

00:12:07.000 No more sending out early votes and mail in votes.

00:12:10.000 Democrats will never win an election again.

00:12:14.000 That, I mean, there's a couple that are coming down next week that are going to be consequential.

00:12:20.000 The mail in voting stuff, I think, is one of them, but also the ruling on the 14th Amendment is supposed to come next week, too.

00:12:27.000 Yeah, Birthright's Head doesn't change.

00:12:29.000 They're going to have a busy week.

00:12:30.000 Those two things alone could change the course of the country, right?

00:12:34.000 If we get the kind of ruling that conservatives would be hoping for, that alone will change not only the midterms, but it'll change every subsequent election.

00:12:47.000 Oh, that's it.

00:12:47.000 Culture war over.

00:12:49.000 The left is marginalized.

00:12:51.000 Look.

00:12:52.000 With this polling that we're seeing about how Americans feel about wokeness and all that stuff, we can also see from it that woke still exists.

00:12:58.000 They're just suppressed.

00:13:00.000 The plurality of Americans, I would say the majority actually, based on how the poll is structured, don't want this stuff.

00:13:05.000 So woke has to hide for now.

00:13:07.000 But if we change these structures, if the Supreme Court says no birthright citizenship, which would be just amazing, and if they say you cannot send ballots before Election Day and you can't collect them after Election Day, which I think they're going to rule, It is the end for Democrats as we know it.

00:13:27.000 California turns Republican.

00:13:28.000 It's going to be nuts.

00:13:29.000 The thing with this, too, I think a lot of people are missing this.

00:13:32.000 We've theorized about a lot of these things and we have obviously data that this is going on, but it's not until we actually have these rulings come down and then see the elections to really understand how 2020 or even 2016 could have gone differently.

00:13:47.000 I think some of us who are even fairly bullish on how this might change things are going to be surprised by just how bad it was in our elections before.

00:13:56.000 And again, we just Don't truly know until those rulings come down.

00:14:00.000 Yeah, I mean, I would like to see a real accounting of how the elections have panned out in the past, but that is, for me, that's a tertiary issue.

00:14:10.000 It'll be interesting, but at the end of the day, people always love to say, oh, this is the most important election that's ever happened.

00:14:20.000 Every election is the most important election.

00:14:21.000 And they're right.

00:14:21.000 Yeah, and they're exactly right.

00:14:23.000 And the reason that they're right is because we live the way that our existence is.

00:14:29.000 We live moment by moment.

00:14:30.000 So the Only election that you can have an impact on is the one that is right in front of you.

00:14:35.000 The one that passed, that one is no longer the most important ever.

00:14:39.000 And the one that's coming up after, that can't be the most important ever because those you can't affect.

00:14:44.000 The one that's coming up right now is the one that you actually can have an impact on.

00:14:47.000 But that's a functional argument.

00:14:49.000 It is.

00:14:50.000 There actually is a literal argument when they say this election is more important than the last election.

00:14:55.000 And that is true.

00:14:56.000 Right now, I will put it like this: when in 2024, when we were looking at Kamala as president or Trump as president, getting Trump in was the most important thing that we could do.

00:15:07.000 And the Republicans taking the majority.

00:15:09.000 But that wasn't about fundamentally altering how, like stopping corruption or cheating.

00:15:15.000 It was about holding the line.

00:15:16.000 We held the line.

00:15:18.000 I said we advanced the line.

00:15:19.000 We took it back.

00:15:20.000 The next thing we have to do is if we do not forward that line and we fall back, we are losing.

00:15:27.000 So this election is actually more important because we're talking about fundamentally changing the understanding of our Constitution and how our elections are actually held.

00:15:35.000 And how people view the Republican Party in a lot of ways, given the fact that it's always kind of seen as like a Republican is just.

00:15:41.000 You know, a Democrat is just a Republican going to speed limit or whatever, the set it backwards, right?

00:15:45.000 The idea is that the Republicans are always just there to kind of be a pressure release valve for Democrat policies.

00:15:51.000 And you always kind of just end up never forwarding your agenda, but maybe hastening their agenda by a couple of years.

00:15:57.000 But actually moving forward with your own policy ideas and making inroads helps people fundamentally see the Republican Party in a different way.

00:16:04.000 People go ahead.

00:16:05.000 I was just going to say this is a really important point and something that is frustrating me so much about some people on the right right now is they're acting like there's this, you know, obviously everyone talks about the Uniparty.

00:16:05.000 Oh, sorry.

00:16:14.000 The Uniparty is.

00:16:15.000 You know, taking over, and there really is no change.

00:16:18.000 This, what's going on with FBI agents right now in LA, in addition to the rulings that are going to come out from the Supreme Court, completely dispels that.

00:16:25.000 It's totally fine to talk about how the Republican Party is more similar to the Democrat Party than it ever has been before.

00:16:30.000 It's totally fine to say these certain people in power are looking at the same things and doing the same things.

00:16:35.000 That's fine. 0.91

00:16:36.000 But to act like Donald Trump's appointments to the Supreme Court have not changed the outcome of this country is completely ludicrous.

00:16:44.000 And if Donald Trump did nothing else, and that was the only thing he did, It would still not be a uniparty.

00:16:48.000 We already disproved that theory.

00:16:50.000 Donald Trump is, whether you like him or not, Donald Trump is arguably one of the most consequential presidents in the past 50 years, right?

00:16:58.000 Like just the appointments to the Supreme Court alone, the changes to Roe versus Wade, that alone is a massive victory for the right that the right has been working diligently for, for what, 50 years, was it?

00:17:16.000 Yeah, exactly 50 years.

00:17:17.000 You know?

00:17:18.000 So. 0.98

00:17:19.000 The idea that Donald Trump isn't consequential, that's ridiculous.

00:17:22.000 The idea that Donald Trump is exactly like the Democrats, like there is, there's a uniparty.

00:17:28.000 I hear people say that they generally tend to be libertarians that see them foreign policy most of the time.

00:17:34.000 Yeah, usually it is.

00:17:35.000 But they still like, they love to say, oh, it would have been the same thing.

00:17:39.000 I hear people say, oh, it would have been the same stuff if it was Kamala Harris. 0.96

00:17:41.000 And that's the most politically ignorant comment you could possibly make. 0.94

00:17:47.000 I love when they're like, who was I watching? 0.98

00:17:49.000 Hassan?

00:17:49.000 I don't know if it was Hassan actually, but maybe it was Kyle Kalinske.

00:17:52.000 Someone said there's a 0% chance that Kamala Harris would have gone to war with Iran. 0.99

00:17:56.000 And I'm just like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 0.99

00:17:59.000 There was a 100% chance she was going to go to war with Iran. 0.99

00:18:06.000 The idea that there is ever a president who's anti war is like the funniest thing imaginable to me. 0.64

00:18:10.000 But to be fair, on that same wavelength, I think Afghanistan is the perfect kind of inflection point for this.

00:18:16.000 Donald Trump and Joe Biden were both getting out of Afghanistan.

00:18:20.000 Just on paper, if you want to look at, oh, are they doing the same things on foreign policy?

00:18:24.000 Yes.

00:18:24.000 But the way they were going about it, vastly different.

00:18:27.000 So, if you want to say, yeah, the broad grand strategy of America is not changing that much, okay, maybe. 1.00

00:18:33.000 But to act like Kamala Harris in Iran is going to look the same as Donald Trump in Iran is so stupid. 0.98

00:18:37.000 Yeah, most of, to Brett's point, most of the time they're talking about foreign policy. 0.99

00:18:41.000 Most of the time it's people that have a libertarian streak in them or want to see the US no longer support Israel, right?

00:18:48.000 And the libertarians and the far left, they kind of come together on that.

00:18:54.000 But libertarians would be like, we don't need to have all these bases.

00:18:57.000 We don't need to be the police of the world and stuff.

00:19:00.000 And it's like, I used to be a subscriber to that idea.

00:19:03.000 I've come to realize that without the United States kind of being the bulwark of basically global trade and stuff like that, you're going to end up with China or Russia in the spot.

00:19:16.000 Nature abhors a vacuum.

00:19:17.000 If there's going to be a most powerful country on the earth, and there will be, it should be the United States because we've been exceedingly responsible, regardless of what anyone else says.

00:19:28.000 Exceedingly responsible with that. 0.99

00:19:29.000 The problem is if Democrats win, then basically, y'all, white people are screwed. 0.99

00:19:34.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:19:35.000 I'll explain why. 1.00

00:19:36.000 China takes over. 1.00

00:19:37.000 The Chinese are super racist. 1.00

00:19:39.000 They're Han Chinese supremacists. 1.00

00:19:41.000 So they're going to implement global trade to the benefit of the Han Chinese at the detriment of literally everybody else. 0.93

00:19:46.000 If the Democrats won, they would also have liberal economic order one of two things. 0.85

00:19:51.000 Either they defer to China and let them win, or they have liberal economic order, global dominance at the expense of white people. 0.59

00:19:57.000 Is this why there's so much pro Chinese propaganda, like on X and stuff like that? 0.76

00:20:02.000 Like, look at their buildings.

00:20:03.000 They've got LEDs.

00:20:04.000 They're so far.

00:20:05.000 And that was Hassan who said that, wasn't he?

00:20:06.000 I mean, there's a lot more than Jackson Hinkle. 0.99

00:20:09.000 It's a horseshit. 0.96

00:20:09.000 There's a lot of them. 0.96

00:20:11.000 Well, my longstanding theory is that I believe that Republicans and Democrats of the past 30 years, not Trump, pre Trump, basically resigned themselves to China is going to take over.

00:20:23.000 They got way too many people.

00:20:24.000 Their economy is expanding rapidly.

00:20:26.000 They're above average intelligence nationwide.

00:20:28.000 And this is a billion people where they got an app.

00:20:32.000 I think the IQ of China is around like 107, 110.

00:20:35.000 So they're outpacing us in every capacity. 0.96

00:20:37.000 I think the U.S. elites were like, Let's transfer our wealth to Chinese assets. 0.97

00:20:42.000 Let them become the dominant global power. 0.97

00:20:45.000 We'll avoid World War III.

00:20:46.000 We'll stay wealthy forever.

00:20:48.000 Who cares?

00:20:49.000 And then Trump was like, We're not going to do it.

00:20:51.000 We're going to make America great.

00:20:53.000 We've invested billions in this.

00:20:53.000 And they were like, Stop.

00:20:55.000 You are screwing us over.

00:20:57.000 Michael Flynn comes in and he goes, Russia's not our biggest threat. 0.52

00:20:59.000 China is.

00:21:00.000 And they panicked and tried to put him in prison.

00:21:02.000 That's how worried they were about their investments getting chopped up.

00:21:05.000 So now, if you take a look at the Strait of Hormuz getting shut down, the only thing is funny because I'm just so tired of everything being fake, guys.

00:21:14.000 It's all fake.

00:21:15.000 I'm going to tell you right now, definitively.

00:21:16.000 I know this.

00:21:17.000 It's true.

00:21:18.000 The goal of the Trump administration was to cut off China from 40 to 50% of their energy to push them back economically five to 10 years.

00:21:25.000 That was the play.

00:21:26.000 That was the point.

00:21:27.000 They're not going to tell you that. 0.99

00:21:29.000 And the other side's too stupid to argue correctly that Trump was lying because he was going after China because they don't want to shift the focus to China. 0.99

00:21:34.000 So instead, what happens is they say Trump started a war and got nothing. 1.00

00:21:38.000 And I'm just sick of the lies.

00:21:40.000 Let me just start with the surface level on this one because it's really just irking me, right?

00:21:45.000 Wiped out the entire leadership of Iran.

00:21:45.000 Trump.

00:21:47.000 50 plus high profile individuals that were refusing to negotiate, people who are 80, 90 years old, who have been there for generations, who had not worked in the United States, they're all dead.

00:21:57.000 Now they're talking about he's giving them $300 billion, which was always the International Monetary Fund play.

00:22:03.000 Loans to countries to put them under your boot.

00:22:06.000 That's what they did.

00:22:07.000 That's tales from an economic hitman.

00:22:09.000 Now, I'm not suggesting that's the principal goal that they engaged in, but it is just the most annoying thing in the world to see people who have not read a single instance of foreign policy in their entire lives.

00:22:20.000 Watching MS Now and convincing themselves they know everything about global strategy.

00:22:25.000 And I'm sitting here being like, the only thing that makes sense actually is with the seizure of Venezuela, the isolation of Cuba, the killing of the criminal narco boats, threats to Gulf trade, securing Panama, renaming the Gulf the Gulf of America.

00:22:38.000 And literally now we are one of the largest oil exporters in the world, shutting down, like screwing over OPEC, shutting down the Gulf states, and screwing over China.

00:22:46.000 It's pretty damn obvious what Trump was doing.

00:22:48.000 But I'm going to say this again because I've just, I want to be very careful I describe this.

00:22:52.000 I don't think I'm right about everything.

00:22:54.000 I don't think this is 100% guaranteed.

00:22:56.000 It's not the only factor in this.

00:22:58.000 But after conferring with sources that I know, because I know people who, you know, we have friends of the administration, seems to be, they're giving me a nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

00:23:06.000 That's exactly what the play was.

00:23:09.000 And they're not going to tell the public they intentionally spiked gas prices to hurt China because that would be bad politics. 1.00

00:23:15.000 Meanwhile, the left and liberals are too stupid and they're just attacking Trump because gas prices are high. 1.00

00:23:20.000 So, anyway, rant over. 1.00

00:23:21.000 I've seen a couple of people on the right who don't think he went far enough in Iran.

00:23:26.000 Why do you think that is?

00:23:27.000 Or can I speak to you?

00:23:27.000 I don't think he went far enough.

00:23:28.000 Well, yeah, like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin are like, you can't tell Trump.

00:23:31.000 Israel, what to do?

00:23:32.000 And it's like, who cares? 0.99

00:23:33.000 Can I say, like, what then?

00:23:34.000 You don't think you went far enough?

00:23:35.000 No, not at all.

00:23:36.000 So then, my question would be, like, what would far enough have looked like?

00:23:39.000 I think far enough would have been absolutely obliterated.

00:23:41.000 Like, the fact that we're making a deal with terrorists is what I don't like.

00:23:44.000 Like, I don't think America should be making a deal with terrorists. 0.98

00:23:47.000 I think we should be obliterating them. 0.91

00:23:48.000 And by the way, I do understand to a point why the frustration is in Israel with us negotiating something where essentially proxies in Hezbollah, in Lebanon, are able to just continue to attack Israel and they can't do anything about it. 0.95

00:24:02.000 I don't understand how that has anything to do with our deal with Iran.

00:24:06.000 Like, do you guys understand how that could be troublesome for you to be making a deal with another country where a third country is involved and now cannot defend themselves from an Iran proxy on their own border?

00:24:15.000 Well, the deal, but the deal includes Iran ceasing, it includes a cessation of hostilities from Lebanon as well. 0.54

00:24:22.000 Yeah, I don't think it prevents Israel from actually.

00:24:24.000 No, hold on.

00:24:25.000 The problem.

00:24:25.000 The deal Iran struck with Trump, with the United States, is that there would be a cessation of hostilities between Israel and Lebanon.

00:24:33.000 They didn't just say Israel can't defend themselves.

00:24:35.000 They said, We will stop hostilities with Lebanon towards Israel.

00:24:39.000 Israel will stop returning fire. 1.00

00:24:41.000 And we believe them. 0.98

00:24:41.000 Why? 0.98

00:24:42.000 That's what I don't understand.

00:24:43.000 Like, I don't understand the point of that part of the deal at all.

00:24:45.000 Same with the nuclear part.

00:24:46.000 They're like, we're going to reiterate.

00:24:47.000 They literally use the word reiterate.

00:24:48.000 They're like, we're going to reiterate that we're not going to have nuclear weapons.

00:24:53.000 It's like they're just admitting to us already that we had it before.

00:24:57.000 We don't care.

00:24:58.000 We're not going to hold this part of the deal.

00:24:59.000 So, why was it even included in the first place?

00:25:01.000 Again, I think the idea of a deal is completely immaterial to a country that you've wiped out their top leadership.

00:25:06.000 You're negotiating with a bunch of homeless guys, effectively, who live in rubble. 0.70

00:25:10.000 So they're going to say whatever they want to say.

00:25:12.000 The point is, Trump decided the war is over.

00:25:14.000 That's all that matters.

00:25:15.000 The question is, what is the material end of this war?

00:25:18.000 For four months, China lost half of its oil imports and shifted to reserves, and it put them in serious trouble.

00:25:24.000 And it arguably, I should say, it has been argued that this pushed them back several years in terms of economic dominance internationally.

00:25:33.000 What was it?

00:25:33.000 The Emirates dropped from OPEC.

00:25:35.000 The Qatari natural gas fields are wiped out.

00:25:38.000 The U.S. is positioned as the principal energy exporter in the world. 0.56

00:25:43.000 And Trump did everything in the Gulf to make sure it's possible from taking out narco boats, isolating Cuba, taking the oil from Venezuela, removing Maduro.

00:25:51.000 It sounds to me like whatever this deal with Iran is, literally doesn't matter in any capacity. 1.00

00:25:56.000 So that may be true. 1.00

00:25:59.000 My problem with all of it is, as you stated earlier, if that's all the point of all of this, it has not been communicated to the American people.

00:26:06.000 I understand why it can't be communicated to the American people.

00:26:08.000 But if they lose the midterms, And things don't pan out this way, it was all for naught.

00:26:12.000 And that's my biggest concern right now.

00:26:14.000 And I hear you.

00:26:14.000 And Donald Trump said, I don't care about the midterms because you look at what happened in the primaries.

00:26:19.000 I actually think, I don't believe that Trump is a blithering idiot. 1.00

00:26:24.000 I don't believe that his brain is fried and he's withering on the ground like Joe Biden was. 1.00

00:26:28.000 I certainly think there's something going on.

00:26:29.000 He's got like a weird splotch on his arm.

00:26:31.000 He's an old man. 0.66

00:26:32.000 Exactly.

00:26:33.000 He's fallen asleep.

00:26:33.000 Whatever.

00:26:34.000 But he's there.

00:26:35.000 His brain works.

00:26:36.000 But I don't even care to put everything on Trump all the time.

00:26:39.000 It's all the liberals ever do Trump this, Trump that.

00:26:41.000 I'm like, bro, Hegzeth exists.

00:26:43.000 He's got advisors.

00:26:44.000 Trump probably goes to Hegzeth and says, what are you doing?

00:26:46.000 He says, here's what we're going to do in Iran.

00:26:47.000 He goes, okay, yeah, go do it.

00:26:48.000 I mean, but he's held to a standard because he is who he puts into office.

00:26:52.000 Sure, sure, sure, sure. 0.73

00:26:53.000 But the point is, You are never going to get from any president, here's the exact international plan where I declare that this is an assault on Eastern energy supply and China. 0.68

00:27:04.000 That would accelerate war.

00:27:05.000 Yeah, no, sure.

00:27:06.000 I get that.

00:27:07.000 I guess, so here's my question because one of the stated goals from the Trump administration is to get rid of the nuclear weapons that are in Iran. 0.68

00:27:14.000 So, my question to you is if they continue to fight Israel and Lebanon, and if they continue to enrich uranium, in your mind, is it kind of just like, oh, I don't care, they're going to do that anyway? 0.54

00:27:24.000 This is all about the economics of oil?

00:27:26.000 Well, I mean, my position on whether Trump did, my position on the war is the war was largely detrimental.

00:27:33.000 We have to see the long term effects to see if it's beneficial, and they have to articulate those long term effects.

00:27:37.000 But what Trump is doing and what I'm stating he's doing is not a question of support or opposition to what he is doing.

00:27:43.000 Again, like, I think there's great risk in going to war with Iran because you better hope you're going to pull this off because it's a gambit.

00:27:49.000 And for now, we can see the material effects. 0.99

00:27:51.000 Everything I described are facts.

00:27:53.000 Now, whether you like that is entirely up to you, I don't know.

00:27:55.000 Whether you think it's good.

00:27:56.000 Now, the outcome, of course, will be.

00:27:59.000 Iran may or may not abide by this deal.

00:28:01.000 Then the arguments afterward will be we're in the same boat we were before the war, except we hindered the economics of the East to the benefit of America and propped up our energy infrastructure.

00:28:12.000 That's certainly what conservatives will say.

00:28:15.000 Or maybe Trump just says, you broke the deal, war's back on, clogs the Strait of Hormuz again, cuts off China again, blows up more people.

00:28:22.000 I don't know.

00:28:23.000 It's the honest truth that we're in basically the same spot we were two months ago.

00:28:27.000 No, no.

00:28:27.000 They're saying economically because of what's been done with the oil is that.

00:28:31.000 Let me stress this again.

00:28:33.000 On the broad scale, we're saying we don't know yet.

00:28:35.000 On the broad scale, like we just don't know what's going to happen.

00:28:38.000 No, I've already described the material effects of Trump's year and a half in office.

00:28:43.000 Sure.

00:28:44.000 He renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

00:28:46.000 Why would he do that?

00:28:47.000 Vanity?

00:28:48.000 No, it's because now, internationally, it can be stated the Gulf of America is the largest energy exporter in the world.

00:28:55.000 He wanted America on it.

00:28:56.000 It's not Mexico doing it, it's the United States.

00:28:58.000 I think we're doing a lot of exporting out of like the Port of Houston or something. 0.95

00:29:01.000 So why kill the narco terrorists in the Caribbean? 0.93

00:29:06.000 He needed to clear trade routes because you had criminal traffickers armed causing problems, and you cannot have it's called pacification. 0.93

00:29:14.000 You cannot have tankers moving through the region at high volume if you have criminal enterprise because they're going to counter you. 0.99

00:29:22.000 So Trump blows them all up, kills them.

00:29:24.000 Why take out Maduro? 1.00

00:29:26.000 There's always a criminal supplying drugs.

00:29:27.000 No, no, no, no.

00:29:28.000 Because Venezuela in 2009 seized US oil assets to the tune of $10 billion, and Obama did nothing about it.

00:29:36.000 And truth be told, Trump didn't in his first term either, but now he is.

00:29:39.000 He seized back our oil assets and basically got the country to line up, and they're the largest oil producer in the world.

00:29:45.000 So now, the Caribbean and the Gulf region is the largest producer of energy in the world, with the U.S. being the largest exporter in the world and the largest since World War II.

00:29:55.000 He isolated Cuba, which is adversarial, then sent an armada to the Strait of Hormuz.

00:30:01.000 So if we're talking about what Trump has been doing for the year and a half and what the Iran war was materially, It is completely in line with shifting global energy to the Gulf, and he did that.

00:30:12.000 Now, as to the question of Iran as a nation, I honestly believe that the war, and actually, you know what? 0.54

00:30:20.000 I'm going to say this it is a fact statement.

00:30:22.000 The Iran war is a subset of the greater military operations of the United States over the past year and a half.

00:30:29.000 That is, everything I just laid out with the Gulf, oil, all the trade, that is a massive, it's a litany of military operations for which the Iran war is large, but does not overtake all of the money spent in the other direction.

00:30:44.000 To which I can say, when you look at the big picture and the shifting of energy and the cutting off of China, and it's damaging to some of our allies as well, but I think Trump was like, we're going to hurt them more than we get hurt.

00:30:56.000 Whether or not Iran has nuclear weapons, I don't actually think is the front burner.

00:31:02.000 I think it's maybe like three or four on the list. 1.00

00:31:04.000 And I will stress, I honestly think they're full of it.

00:31:06.000 And it's an excuse.

00:31:07.000 It's a casus belli because the 12 day war, they claimed to have blown up all the fissile material in the first place, then came back and said no. 0.87

00:31:13.000 So I would argue this is further evidence to what I've been saying that the plan here was to cut China off.

00:31:20.000 I will also stress that upon communications with sources I know, you know, in and around the administration, that no one, I want to be very clear on how they say this because no one's leaking anything to me, but the general.

00:31:31.000 Thing that I hear is, yeah, Tim, your assessment's actually pretty spot on.

00:31:35.000 And I'm like, okay, that's all I need to hear.

00:31:37.000 I don't want anything classified.

00:31:38.000 The issue is the nuclear material thing is clearly bunk because how many times are we going to blow up nuclear material?

00:31:44.000 How many times is it still going to exist?

00:31:46.000 So we go in the 12 day war, it's gone, but then it's back.

00:31:48.000 Then we do this four month war, it's gone, but now it's back. 0.58

00:31:50.000 It's ridiculous. 0.71

00:31:51.000 But that was a huge part of the selling point when this all started he was talking about we can't let them get nuclear weapons. 0.57

00:31:57.000 And he asked the citizens to march on against the government.

00:32:00.000 And a lot of people feel like he's hanging those citizens out to dry.

00:32:03.000 So let me ask you, let me ask you.

00:32:05.000 If Donald Trump came out and said to the American people, I want your support for a war in Iran that will shut down the Strait of Hormuz, drive gas prices up to $4.50 a gallon, because I want to cause economic damage to China, do you think his approval rate would go up or down?

00:32:21.000 No, I'm not arguing the point.

00:32:24.000 I'm just saying this is the argument they're using against them is that he's hanging people out to dry when we understand we have to put our needs as a nation first. 0.81

00:32:32.000 I understand the idea of needing to cut off China's access to oil, all this stuff makes perfect sense.

00:32:38.000 That's where the detriment comes from a lot of people who probably aren't reading that heavily into the politics.

00:32:38.000 I'm just saying.

00:32:44.000 They're only looking based off his initial statements.

00:32:47.000 But obviously, espionage and whatever happens with global politics being what it is, who you are on the front also is going to matter going into the midterms.

00:32:55.000 I mean, I imagine that the administration had hoped that if they initiated strikes, that there would be an uprising and that they would be successful.

00:33:03.000 Sure.

00:33:03.000 I guess that was why I asked if we were to go based off what they initially said, if all of this economically related to oil and gas prices wasn't the point.

00:33:13.000 And he talks about an uprising from the citizens, right?

00:33:15.000 March and take back your freedom.

00:33:19.000 But, like, what would that have even looked like?

00:33:19.000 I understand that.

00:33:21.000 Because that's what I'm seeing from people who are saying that we didn't go far enough.

00:33:23.000 They're saying, like, you didn't.

00:33:24.000 We got regime change.

00:33:25.000 Yeah.

00:33:26.000 We got regime change.

00:33:27.000 And now we've got this IMF deal for $300 billion, which is what they've been trying to do forever.

00:33:32.000 Yeah.

00:33:32.000 So they're like, Trump surrendered and gave him billions of dollars.

00:33:35.000 Yeah, guys, you know, I know it's really difficult for people who've never read Tales from Economic Hitman to understand how the liberal economic order works.

00:33:42.000 But for those of us that have been tracking foreign policy most of our lives, and I got to bow down to those that are older than me.

00:33:47.000 Who have been involved in this much longer?

00:33:49.000 I'm 40.

00:33:50.000 So there's a certain point when I got into politics, I had no idea what was going on.

00:33:53.000 And I had to start reading all this stuff.

00:33:54.000 So I got a major gap in my mind going back beyond the 80s because I wasn't alive.

00:33:59.000 But this is how the liberal economic order has always worked.

00:34:02.000 You go to a country, say, we'll give you a billion dollars, and then you work for us.

00:34:06.000 And when they say no, you then say, then you get threatening.

00:34:10.000 Then we're going to have protests against you.

00:34:12.000 We're going to fight against you.

00:34:13.000 We're going to get you replaced.

00:34:14.000 So we see this in a variety of countries.

00:34:16.000 The first thing they do is they say, we'll give you a billion dollars.

00:34:18.000 The country says, deal.

00:34:20.000 Now they're under the boot.

00:34:21.000 When these countries say no deal, it's my country and we are sovereign, the next thing they do is they prop up your opponents.

00:34:26.000 Look at Bolsonaro.

00:34:27.000 Look what happened in Brazil.

00:34:28.000 Look what USAID does with funding protests and revolution. 0.91

00:34:32.000 If those don't work and you retain power, then they kill you. 0.95

00:34:36.000 If they can't kill you through assassinations, they kill you through invasion. 0.62

00:34:39.000 So we'll give a shout out to historical figures like Saddam Hussein, who wanted to trade oil in Euro. 0.52

00:34:45.000 He's dead.

00:34:45.000 Then you've got Muammar Gaddafi, he wanted to trade oil in gold dinar.

00:34:49.000 He died too.

00:34:50.000 What did Hillary Clinton say?

00:34:51.000 We came, we saw, he died. 1.00

00:34:53.000 Take a look at Syria.

00:34:54.000 Bashar al Assad said, You will not run your natural gas pipeline through my country.

00:34:58.000 Now, he's in exile.

00:34:59.000 His country fell.

00:35:00.000 It took a long time.

00:35:01.000 They got him out. 1.00

00:35:02.000 Take a look at Ukraine.

00:35:03.000 Yanukovych had to flee.

00:35:04.000 He fled to Russia, and now the country is at war.

00:35:07.000 So, this is the structure. 0.74

00:35:08.000 So, when Iran gets bombed and their leadership is all dead, and then they come in and they say, If you abide by the rules, you get $300 billion, that was the play. 0.87

00:35:16.000 That is how you subjugate a nation. 0.87

00:35:19.000 So, from the looks of things, I would say this.

00:35:23.000 If you go to one of these, you guys know what Bilderberg is?

00:35:25.000 Yep.

00:35:26.000 I'm willing to bet you go to Bilderberg.

00:35:28.000 It's all off the record, global.

00:35:30.000 I bet if you go to Davos, all of the guys there are saying basically what I'm saying.

00:35:35.000 And outside, and I'll tell you this too, they're going to be journalists who appear on these big cable network TV shows who are going to be at these meetings.

00:35:43.000 Behind the scenes, they're going to be like everything's off the record.

00:35:46.000 Yes, this is exactly what Trump is doing and why.

00:35:48.000 Now, excuse me, I've got to go on a late night cable television show and tell everyone that Trump's evil and he flubbed this and it's about gas prices.

00:35:55.000 They know they are lying.

00:35:56.000 Now, you turn on MS Now, and I'm pretty sure all of these people, when they get to work, they're like, Do we have our lies written down yet?

00:36:03.000 Because there's no way a sane, normal person can believe the things that MS Now hosts are actually saying.

00:36:08.000 They know.

00:36:09.000 And I want to give a shout out to our friend Alicia Menendez, whose dad is Bob Menendez, who is corrupt as they come and is going to jail. 0.99

00:36:14.000 She's deep state as they come.

00:36:16.000 So I don't believe for a second these people are actually being honest about anything.

00:36:20.000 Let's jump to this next story, though, because there's a lot in the voter fraud camp.

00:36:23.000 I could rant on all that stuff all day.

00:36:24.000 Check this out from Fox News.

00:36:27.000 FBI raids Soros backed voter group headquarters in reported fraud probe.

00:36:32.000 The Ohio Organizing Collaborative received over $10 million in revenue in 24 from top Democratic aligned donors.

00:36:39.000 They say FBI agents raided the headquarters of the Ohio Organizing Collaborative on June 11th and deployed across the state to question members of the organization, sometimes bearing subpoenas or demanding to seize electronic devices, MSNI reported.

00:36:52.000 A day later, multiple sources familiar with the events told CBS News that the operations were part of a fraud related investigation.

00:36:58.000 I would just like to point out right now that With these FBI fraud investigations, with Watson v. RNC coming up, that's a Supreme Court ruling that could end early voting and late counted ballots.

00:37:11.000 When Donald Trump seems not to care about polling as it pertains to the midterms, combine what we're seeing with these raids on these organizations over fraud with the redistricting efforts and this upcoming Supreme Court ruling.

00:37:23.000 And I think the Republican strategy is basically like, we're going to win by procedure.

00:37:28.000 So that's the strategy.

00:37:30.000 Is the Supreme Court ruling about just federal elections, or would that also pertain to skilled elections?

00:37:35.000 Let's Let's pull it up there.

00:37:36.000 Let's pull up Watson.

00:37:38.000 I actually got SCOTUS blog over here.

00:37:40.000 Let me grab this one.

00:37:42.000 Actually, I wonder if opinions expected.

00:37:45.000 Oh, they don't know.

00:37:46.000 SCOTUS blog doesn't have any listed opinions just yet.

00:37:49.000 But I do have the.

00:37:52.000 Let me see here.

00:37:53.000 We got it right here from SCOTUS blog.

00:37:55.000 Let's pull this bad boy in.

00:37:57.000 The most important cases yet to be decided.

00:38:00.000 And let's see.

00:38:01.000 Watson v. I thought it was the first one they brought up, but let's jump to it.

00:38:06.000 The court is expected to issue two major decisions on elections and campaigns Watson v. RNC.

00:38:12.000 They challenge a law in Mississippi that allows mail in bouts to be counted as long as they were postmarked by and received within five days of Election Day.

00:38:18.000 An oral argument, a majority of the justices appeared ready to uphold a lower court's ruling that federal law requires all bouts to be received by Election Day.

00:38:27.000 And in National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee v. Federal Election Commission, several justices were sympathetic to the argument made by the challengers that a federal law that limits the amount of money that political parties can spend in coordination with a candidate for office violates the First Amendment.

00:38:42.000 So the issue is this on Watson v. Republican National Committee.

00:38:45.000 The argument is you can't count bouts after Election Day.

00:38:49.000 SCOTUS blog says they seem sympathetic to the idea that all bouts must be received by Election Day.

00:38:53.000 We could get a.

00:38:54.000 This could be ruled on the narrow, broad, or very broad.

00:38:59.000 If the argument is this Congress has codified a single day for elections, it is, what is it, the second Tuesday of November or something like that?

00:39:07.000 Second Tuesday of November.

00:39:08.000 Second Tuesday.

00:39:10.000 If that is the case, you cannot collect bouts after that day.

00:39:14.000 That's narrow.

00:39:15.000 The Supreme Court might just say, yes, election day is this day.

00:39:19.000 You must count all ballots on this day.

00:39:22.000 Anything afterwards, gone.

00:39:24.000 Now, if they rule on a narrow set, just like that, but apply it broadly nationally, saying it's not just about federal elections, but this applies to elections in general, then theoretically they could argue, and I don't know that they will, that your primary elections must adhere to the Standards set by Congress as elections are held.

00:39:48.000 So, if elections are to be a single day or they must all be counted on election day, then your primaries must function similarly.

00:39:55.000 If they rule in that capacity, Spencer Pratt would have got second place and he moved to the general.

00:40:00.000 Now, federally, they can rule more broadly and say, no, no, no, Congress codified a single day for elections, which means you cannot give ballots out earlier than election day.

00:40:12.000 If they rule on that broadly, then holy smokes, Democrats never win again.

00:40:17.000 They can go even more broadly than that, going double double and say ballots must be delivered and received on election day.

00:40:26.000 You cannot send out early votes.

00:40:28.000 You cannot send out mail in votes because those all de facto create multiple election days.

00:40:34.000 All ballots must be counted by midnight.

00:40:37.000 Or I have a feeling they will say you can count all ballots received in the day of election, however long it takes, but all elections, state, local, or otherwise, must adhere to the same standards set by Congress on federal elections.

00:40:51.000 You may hold your elections at the state level as you see fit, but they must be in accordance with how the elections are held federally.

00:40:58.000 And the reason why is a long shot, but I would argue this is what they should rule, and I bet Thomas and Alito do.

00:41:05.000 If you create in a state multiple standards for how elections are held, it's confusing to the public and it's disenfranchising.

00:41:11.000 The people of your state, you can determine as the state legislature how you conduct your elections so long as they're uniform.

00:41:19.000 And if Congress has codified at the federal level, Federal elections are this day.

00:41:24.000 Your primary elections can be on whatever day you want, but they have to function the same way so that the people who are voting know how to vote, when to vote, and what the rules are.

00:41:33.000 If they do that and do this massive broad ruling, which I think is a long shot, it's a nuclear bomb for the Democrats who will never win again.

00:41:41.000 Now, with the caveat, Democrats, of course, will adapt.

00:41:43.000 They'll change their politics.

00:41:45.000 They'll try to moderate.

00:41:46.000 So, of course, they'll win again.

00:41:47.000 But I'm saying I could get a little bit more extreme with it and say the Democratic Party is the oldest political party in the world.

00:41:52.000 And technically, I'm surprised they still exist.

00:41:56.000 So sooner or later, we're going to face the nuclear bomb, the earthquake in politics that, like most political parties around the world, the Democratic Party is just too old to function anymore.

00:42:07.000 Well, they, I mean, they try to be, you know, they try to evolve with the times as they, because they've been pretty successful generally over the past 50 years or so.

00:42:15.000 And as they've had successes, they've had to basically move the goalpost.

00:42:20.000 I mean, we talk about when Obergefeld was decided about gay marriage, right?

00:42:26.000 People were like, oh, if you get gay marriage and stuff, then you're going to, next thing you know, you're going to have, you know, gay people having kids and you're going to have all these other things.

00:42:35.000 There's going to be all these crazy things.

00:42:37.000 Now we have a question as to whether men can become women or women can become men.

00:42:42.000 And that's something that's fairly new to the Democrat Party, right?

00:42:44.000 In the past 10 years, it's become an actual issue.

00:42:48.000 The Democrat Party has overall swung very far left, specifically with younger women, right? 0.57

00:42:54.000 Like Gen Z women, they're very far left. 0.95

00:42:58.000 These ideas were not at all considered by most of the mainstream Democrats 30 years ago. 0.99

00:43:06.000 There's always been a fringe, particularly since the 60s and stuff.

00:43:09.000 But there was a time where you could find a quote unquote conservative Democrat.

00:43:13.000 And that's just not true.

00:43:15.000 Well, no.

00:43:16.000 Do you believe that that's mostly true at the national level?

00:43:19.000 Because I was like looking into the Maryland Democrat candidates upcoming.

00:43:23.000 And like, I saw one of them.

00:43:25.000 He's like, he's been a firefighter his whole life.

00:43:28.000 And he's like, not necessarily pro data center, but definitely not even anti data center or redistricting.

00:43:35.000 And said, you know what?

00:43:35.000 I'm willing to talk about it.

00:43:37.000 Basically saying, like, if you want to have a conversation about getting rid of it, we can do that.

00:43:41.000 But At the national level, like a Democrat saying that they're anything other than anti data center would be insane given the way that that looks on the political spreadsheet.

00:43:51.000 So, is it more that just at the national level, those wedge issues end up being a bigger deal?

00:43:57.000 I don't know.

00:43:58.000 I don't know if it's just at the national level because you see so many people on local politics or municipal politics being elected that are very far left, right?

00:44:09.000 You've got Lamdani, you've got the mayor of Seattle.

00:44:13.000 Whether or not Karen Bass calls herself a socialist, Her policy.

00:44:16.000 I'm saying local, like not state level, even, but like, you know, when you're talking about people, you're talking about local representatives and stuff like that.

00:44:25.000 I'm like, I don't remember which elections this is coming up for in Maryland, but basically it's not like he's going for a federal level election.

00:44:33.000 It's like a state level representative, and that's different than in this case, just feels like the issues are a lot more ground level.

00:44:41.000 No, I don't think so.

00:44:42.000 And again, I disagree because I mean, you've got AOC, who's probably one of the most recognized Democrats, and she's a member of the DSA.

00:44:49.000 This is really more about the divide in age than it is about whether it's local or federal, right?

00:44:58.000 There are people that are younger that are seeking office now that are very openly members of the DSA.

00:45:05.000 Age makes more sense.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, I think this is what ultimately destroys the Democratic Party the DSA.

00:45:10.000 Fox ran a report today about how they're massively expanding.

00:45:13.000 They've got something like 110,000 members and growing.

00:45:18.000 And I got to be honest, I don't. 0.98

00:45:20.000 I don't blame these young people for seeking out something other than the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party is just garbage, stagnant, stale, with no new ideas. 0.98

00:45:30.000 However, the ideas they've adopted are very, very bad. 0.92

00:45:33.000 I think what's likely to happen is that MAGA splits into two factions, which become the left and right of the United States.

00:45:40.000 And then we get this, I don't know what you'd call it, like malignant tumor of insurgency violence from these young people who think Trump is Hitler.

00:45:49.000 They won't have strong institutional power because people are poor in violence.

00:45:52.000 They love watching it on TV, but they really don't like seeing outside their door.

00:45:55.000 But these people will be going around doing psychotic things like we saw with the UFC event and the arrests.

00:46:01.000 I think the future is going to be just as simple as I reiterate once again.

00:46:06.000 I do believe there's a decent probability that Mega breaks into two factions.

00:46:09.000 We've talked about those rumors and what we've seen already.

00:46:12.000 And the Democratic Party is impotent.

00:46:14.000 They've got no leadership.

00:46:15.000 They have no money.

00:46:16.000 They're broke. 0.97

00:46:17.000 And all the funding is going to these wackaloon lefties.

00:46:19.000 And the younger generation is radicalized.

00:46:21.000 So extrapolate.

00:46:23.000 It is worth noting that when you talk to young people, you ask them what socialism is, they're not mostly Marxist Leninist, right?

00:46:31.000 They don't think of.

00:46:33.000 They're not actually communists.

00:46:35.000 What they're thinking of is they're thinking of, you know, Northern European style social democracy.

00:46:42.000 But not even that.

00:46:43.000 The DSA, I'll give you the really.

00:46:45.000 The DSA is full of communists.

00:46:47.000 But for the average DSA person, I'll explain to you, I want you to imagine this in your mind, right?

00:46:47.000 No, no, I understand.

00:46:53.000 So, 17, 18 year olds, you know, 18 year olds getting out of college and they're trying to find work and they end up playing a bunch of jobs and they can't find work anywhere.

00:47:01.000 Not to mention that online application portals are redundant, super annoying.

00:47:04.000 It's like, how many people have been in that?

00:47:06.000 Process where it's like, please list all of your credentials, job history, and everything.

00:47:12.000 And then when you do, it's like, oh no, I'm sorry, it says, please upload your resume.

00:47:14.000 And then when you do, it says, now list it all out.

00:47:17.000 And you're like, what?

00:47:18.000 They do these things for obedience tests to see if you're willing to do tedious things.

00:47:21.000 That's the real test.

00:47:22.000 So you get out of high school.

00:47:25.000 I can't find work.

00:47:25.000 What do I do?

00:47:26.000 Now you're in debt.

00:47:26.000 So you go to college.

00:47:28.000 You did everything you were told to do. 0.73

00:47:29.000 And you're standing there when along comes a demon, a forked tongue communist who whispers in your ear, you did everything right.

00:47:38.000 You played by the rules.

00:47:40.000 Elon Musk didn't play by the rules.

00:47:42.000 Why should he get to be rich?

00:47:44.000 Burn it down.

00:47:45.000 And they go, yeah, yeah.

00:47:47.000 And they get twisted.

00:47:49.000 They get corrupted.

00:47:50.000 And then they become violent, desperate, and angry.

00:47:53.000 You see what Bernie Sanders proposed?

00:47:57.000 Guys, I can't do this anymore.

00:47:59.000 I just want to.

00:47:59.000 I got to pull this up.

00:48:03.000 Let me pull up the story Bernie Sanders AI.

00:48:07.000 I think we need.

00:48:10.000 I think we, here's the story.

00:48:11.000 Bernie Sanders unveils AI tax plan.

00:48:14.000 Bernie Sanders, who no one ever accused of being intelligent, says that he wants the government to take half equity, 50% equity stakes in large AI companies if they make at least 200 million or more.

00:48:25.000 And that half of that money, those profits, would go towards a 5% annual dividend directly to the Americans.

00:48:32.000 Okay.

00:48:33.000 Okay.

00:48:34.000 Guys, please hear me.

00:48:38.000 First, let's start here.

00:48:40.000 If you are taxing half of their revenue, they go out of business because revenue is not profit.

00:48:46.000 The revenue is what they're taking in.

00:48:49.000 Now you need to check their assets and liabilities.

00:48:53.000 So let's play a game for all of the American people.

00:48:56.000 Oh, I love this so much.

00:48:58.000 Can anyone in the room, Pop Quiz, tell me how much money Anthropic made in profit in the latest quarter?

00:49:06.000 Nope.

00:49:10.000 The answer would be about $559 million.

00:49:12.000 Well, they certainly.

00:49:13.000 Qualify for Bernie Sanders tax because not only did they make their revenue back, but the profit means cash in their pockets.

00:49:21.000 Now, unfortunately, for XAI, they're negative.

00:49:24.000 Unfortunately, for GPT, they're also negative.

00:49:26.000 You ain't taxing them.

00:49:27.000 Now, here's the best part of that $559 million in profit, let's just call it $560.

00:49:32.000 That's easier, right?

00:49:32.000 So we can cut it in half.

00:49:34.000 We're going to cut that in half and we're going to say we got $265 million.

00:49:43.000 And if we were to take that and take 5% and divide it amongst all Americans, Do you know how much money the American people would get for one year?

00:49:52.000 How much?

00:49:53.000 About $43. 1.00

00:49:55.000 Bernie Sanders is retarded. 1.00

00:49:57.000 And I'm tired of pretending he's not. 1.00

00:49:59.000 Okay.

00:50:00.000 I respected the guy a decade ago when I was like, he's a guy who's been consistent in politics.

00:50:05.000 I also liked Ron Paul.

00:50:07.000 He was talking about, we don't want to open borders.

00:50:10.000 That's a Koch brothers proposal.

00:50:11.000 I'm like, yeah, he's talking about the working class. 0.98

00:50:13.000 I respect that.

00:50:14.000 But he comes out with this fake stuff that is impossible and makes no sense, but sounds good to people with low IQs.

00:50:19.000 And I'm just, I can't, I can't, I'm just, I'm at this point where I'm like, imagine, imagine each, I want everybody to understand this.

00:50:29.000 First, I think you all understand Bernie, right?

00:50:29.000 Well, actually, I will say this.

00:50:32.000 But just imagine whatever your job is.

00:50:34.000 Like, let's say you're a plumber.

00:50:36.000 Try explaining the most complicated problem in plumbing to a bunch of five year olds and see how many of them are going to vote correctly.

00:50:44.000 What's going to happen is you're going to run for an election among the five year olds and you're going to say, Listen, I am telling you this valve is busted and that's where the leak is coming from. 0.94

00:50:52.000 And the other kid's going to be like, But you smell like poo. 0.71

00:50:54.000 So I don't think anyone should listen. 0.89

00:50:56.000 The kids are going to laugh and they're going to vote to the other kid who's going to go around throwing glue and smashing things and breaking it.

00:51:00.000 And that's Bernie Sanders and that's the DSA.

00:51:03.000 If you take the net worth of every single billionaire in America and somehow you sell all their unrealized gains, which of course is completely impossible, but if you did it, it would equal one fourth of our national debt.

00:51:15.000 If you stole all their money, it would not even make a dent.

00:51:17.000 All their money on property.

00:51:19.000 Yes, correct.

00:51:20.000 One of the concerns I have though is that Trump and his administration is also looking into doing stuff like this.

00:51:26.000 And you talked about MAGA fracturing into two bases.

00:51:29.000 I'm seeing a seriously big problem on the right where I think a lot of people who are, you know, they're socially conservative.

00:51:37.000 But they are not fiscally conservative.

00:51:39.000 And there are a lot of these people, a lot of people who follow Tucker Carlson, for example, who are quite socialist.

00:51:44.000 It's exactly what you said.

00:51:46.000 They're not communist, they're not Marxist, but they're just socialist in that Finland, Denmark kind of way.

00:51:53.000 And so you have people like Tucker Carlson on his podcast, or rather, I think this was in an interview with the New York Times, and he's talking about a violent revolution between classes.

00:52:02.000 Those are his exact words that he said.

00:52:04.000 Insane.

00:52:04.000 And you've got young men listening to that.

00:52:06.000 And so I'm very concerned.

00:52:08.000 Obviously, the Democrat Party is going to turn into something new.

00:52:10.000 I've got no doubt of that.

00:52:11.000 I do think it's going towards a DSA.

00:52:13.000 But I think you're having a large faction of the right doing it as well, especially on the young side.

00:52:18.000 And that is really scary to me.

00:52:19.000 It's really scary that Trump is even talking about doing this on his front.

00:52:23.000 I don't know if he's serious about it, but even the fact that he's talking about it, I think it's a good idea.

00:52:26.000 David Sachs mentioned something about it on the online podcast recently.

00:52:29.000 And while it's a bad idea overall, Sachs did say, look, these people, these AI companies, have used everyone's data, right?

00:52:40.000 They basically have scoured the internet and used that.

00:52:43.000 As the data set for all of the super intelligence that's out there. 1.00

00:52:48.000 I just want to express to you additionally how dumb these communists are. 0.99

00:52:52.000 You know, if you were to eat the rich, you could only feed the United States population for about three or four days. 1.00

00:53:00.000 So I did the math.

00:53:02.000 First, there are between 125,000 and 144,000 calories in the average human body.

00:53:08.000 There are around 24 million millionaires and billionaires in the United States.

00:53:13.000 If you were to break down all of those millionaires and billionaires into edible calories, like the left says they want to do, you could feed the United States population between three and four days.

00:53:22.000 I'm going to cut so somebody can take mine.

00:53:24.000 There's one thing that I, before we wrap this up or at least talking about AI, people don't see the tangible benefits or they don't think they see the tangible benefits for like every man when it comes to like AI.

00:53:36.000 Mid Journey just announced that they have this new product called Mid Journey Scanner, and it is essentially a replacement for CT and MRI scans.

00:53:44.000 It uses, you get.

00:53:46.000 You know, tank of water, and it drops this basically, this piece of equipment down, and it uses ultrasonic vibrations to basically map your body.

00:53:55.000 And it's going to end up being there.

00:53:57.000 Right now, they're going through trials.

00:54:00.000 It says, unlike CT scans and x rays, which rely on ionizing radiation that can damage DNA and carry a small but cumulative risk of cancer with repeated exposure, the Mid Journey system uses harmless high frequency sound waves transmitted through water, a technology with decades of proven safety in standard ultrasound, including routine use during pregnancy.

00:54:16.000 The point is, if this type of innovation becomes the norm, which is what it looks like it will be doing as AI advances, this is going to be the tangible.

00:54:30.000 Bettering of your life that people are seeing.

00:54:32.000 We will respond positively to that. 1.00

00:54:34.000 The political question here is about Bernie Sanders being retarded and how you shift economically in the face of not advanced medical technology, which I believe is only, it is absolutely material considering I think healthcare is around 20% of our economy. 0.99

00:54:52.000 The bigger issue, of course, is white collar jobs will evaporate overnight. 0.66

00:54:56.000 Bernie Sanders and all of these people are trying to come up with plans that make no sense.

00:55:01.000 Now, I wonder why it is that these elites who run these AI companies are running full speed ahead, full steam ahead to build a technology that we know will basically eliminate the labor market.

00:55:15.000 Hold on.

00:55:16.000 My assumption, just on this point, is that they know we can't just do it overnight, but we want to build it while we still have an economy and then ask the AI to solve the problem after the fact. 0.89

00:55:28.000 We also know that if we do implement these technologies and it does disrupt our economy, China will take over.

00:55:34.000 So, it's a race to build it but not use it.

00:55:37.000 This argument is the same argument that was made during the Industrial Revolution with all these labor saving devices.

00:55:42.000 And in Europe, there was a change in working patterns, right?

00:55:47.000 People decided that they wanted shorter working hours, they wanted more leisure time.

00:55:51.000 But in the United States, people just became more productive.

00:55:54.000 And you're also seeing that at a lot of AI companies.

00:55:56.000 You do have AI companies that have agentic AI that they're working with.

00:56:00.000 This is not the same argument.

00:56:01.000 Well, you're saying that these AIs are going to destroy jobs. 0.92

00:56:04.000 But it's also. 0.98

00:56:05.000 The Industrial Revolution didn't threaten 60 to 80% of the labor market.

00:56:09.000 But the point that I'm making is there is a scenario in which instead of getting rid of jobs, they hire more people and they use this productivity to produce more.

00:56:22.000 That's not correct.

00:56:23.000 That's absolutely correct.

00:56:24.000 It hasn't happened yet, but it's absolutely possible.

00:56:26.000 The function of AI at this scale is to reduce economic expenditures, not to increase it.

00:56:32.000 That's why Bernie Sanders' plan makes no sense.

00:56:34.000 To increase productivity.

00:56:36.000 But we are not.

00:56:37.000 It is, no, it's not.

00:56:39.000 It's to reduce the economic impact of those jobs.

00:56:42.000 The implementation of AI is not to increase productivity.

00:56:46.000 I suppose you can make the argument that's the optimistic approach.

00:56:48.000 The end result of this is not that we're going to make more art.

00:56:51.000 Art is saturated.

00:56:52.000 There's only a finite amount of hours in the day for people to watch video content, for instance.

00:56:56.000 If you blast the market with 100x of the content, everybody is left destitute.

00:57:02.000 I'm not just talking about art.

00:57:03.000 I'm talking about the productivity that you're talking about, like the white collar jobs that you're talking about.

00:57:09.000 They can actually do more.

00:57:12.000 With the same amount of people.

00:57:13.000 Or what?

00:57:14.000 More of whatever the particular industry that you're talking about is.

00:57:17.000 Taxes.

00:57:17.000 Pardon me?

00:57:18.000 Healthcare administration.

00:57:19.000 Healthcare administration is like 15% of the US economy.

00:57:22.000 No, okay, so, but healthcare in general, you could actually see more patients.

00:57:26.000 You could have a doctor instead of going through someone.

00:57:28.000 No, you can't.

00:57:29.000 Why not?

00:57:31.000 A human being has a finite amount of hours in the day.

00:57:34.000 What we will do is replace the doctor with an AI screening bot instead.

00:57:38.000 Now, a lot of people are not too happy with that idea, but yes, one way you increase the ability for someone to see a doctor is.

00:57:44.000 We start doing virtual, or you do completely digital AI doctor screenings.

00:57:49.000 That's the plan.

00:57:50.000 Instead of having a doctor spending so much time looking at people's charts or whatever and stuff, looking at their x rays and stuff, trying to figure out if something's wrong, you can actually say, okay, the doctor talks to him, feed it to an AI.

00:58:00.000 The AI gives him the feedback.

00:58:02.000 What do you need the doctor for?

00:58:03.000 What do you need the doctor for?

00:58:03.000 What?

00:58:04.000 Because people want to interact with people.

00:58:06.000 So, some people.

00:58:07.000 There's tons of people.

00:58:08.000 So, indeed, in a private market, people who like physical human doctors will choose that, but most people will go to robo doctors.

00:58:13.000 Well, either way, the point that I'm making is there's absolutely an argument that you're going to have productivity be increased.

00:58:20.000 Whereas you won't have a total.

00:58:22.000 Yeah, no, I think you're misapplying the Industrial Revolution, which was to increase manufacturing and goods.

00:58:27.000 Well, to be honest with you, this isn't.

00:58:29.000 Which coincided with the expansion of oil distribution.

00:58:31.000 This isn't my argument.

00:58:32.000 This is something that I heard David Freeberg from the press.

00:58:35.000 Well, I heard the same thing, by the way.

00:58:36.000 We don't know.

00:58:37.000 This is propaganda.

00:58:39.000 No, no, no.

00:58:39.000 We do know.

00:58:40.000 And these statements are propaganda by lobbyists, government actors, friends of the administration who want Trump to spend hundreds of billions of dollars in advancing AI because AI is a weapon.

00:58:49.000 It is going to change things, it will be disruptive to the economy, but we want to beat China to the punch.

00:58:54.000 So, they come out and they say, actually, AI might increase productivity.

00:58:57.000 This is not correct.

00:58:58.000 AI right now is largely for abstract work.

00:59:01.000 It will eliminate white-collar jobs overnight.

00:59:03.000 It currently does not create economic output.

00:59:06.000 It currently does increase productivity.

00:59:08.000 No, it doesn't.

00:59:09.000 It absolutely does.

00:59:10.000 There are people that are doing considerably more work using AI agents than they were capable of doing six weeks ago.

00:59:17.000 You are going to see everybody fired in the short term.

00:59:20.000 They are withholding AI technology intentionally because of this.

00:59:25.000 We are not talking about the industrial revolution where we can reduce the cost of a vehicle from the equivalent of a million dollars to a thousand dollars.

00:59:31.000 It's only the industrial revolution as an allegory.

00:59:33.000 It's not exactly the same.

00:59:34.000 So let's use the current state of things.

00:59:36.000 Around 20% of our economy is healthcare, a large portion of that is administration.

00:59:40.000 With the implementation of the latest LLMs at full capacity, this is 15% of the economy gone literally in three weeks.

00:59:50.000 You can get rid of a lot of the administration work, which is the majority of the cost of healthcare.

00:59:55.000 And you can actually bring healthcare costs down.

00:59:56.000 Now, what do those administrators do for work to increase their productivity after their job's been eliminated?

01:00:01.000 I'm going to code?

01:00:02.000 I mean, look, I don't know, but you're asking me to prove a negative or.

01:00:05.000 No, I'm asking you, what is the productivity increase?

01:00:07.000 What is the claim?

01:00:09.000 You're going to get rid of the.

01:00:10.000 What do these people produce?

01:00:12.000 Oh, well, they're doing paperwork, they're doing healthcare claims.

01:00:14.000 When we eliminate their job with AI and we wipe out something like 17 million jobs overnight, what do those administrative individuals do when there's no administrative.

01:00:21.000 No, it's not going to be overnight.

01:00:23.000 There's the speed of adoption that changes.

01:00:25.000 Like, the economy has been.

01:00:28.000 We have produced new technology after new technology after new technology, and you've seen the markets adapt and you've seen society adapt.

01:00:36.000 That's historically the pattern.

01:00:37.000 It's dramatically different.

01:00:39.000 It's historically the pattern.

01:00:41.000 And to say that the human race or the entire market is just going to collapse and say, okay, well, we can't find anything to do.

01:00:48.000 I really don't think that's the case.

01:00:49.000 Let me pull this story from ZDNet.

01:00:51.000 Why Anthropic suddenly pulled Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for everyone.

01:00:56.000 Claude, Fable 5 and Mythos 5 are gone.

01:00:57.000 The reason?

01:00:58.000 A U.S. government directive.

01:01:00.000 This is big news.

01:01:01.000 They released it.

01:01:02.000 And then Anthropic said the U.S. government, citing national security authorities, issued an export directive requiring Anthropic to disable access to the two models by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees.

01:01:15.000 The net effect was that Anthropic disabled Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for everyone, both inside and outside the U.S. You can see the effect of that in, he says, in my Claude Code session when I launched the session.

01:01:25.000 So this is presumably by the U.S. government concerns that foreign agents could get access to advanced AI technologies.

01:01:33.000 But I'm going to posit something else because there.

01:01:33.000 It was a joke.

01:01:35.000 There is another theory, and we know that the leaders, the CEOs, and executives of all of these AI companies had meetings with the U.S. government.

01:01:44.000 What they talked about, we don't entirely know for sure.

01:01:48.000 The presumption it was, this is an arms race.

01:01:50.000 We got to beat China, things like this. 0.78

01:01:52.000 However, one of the theories is that right now, for a fact, the internal LLMs that are used by these companies, if released to the public, would end white collar work. 0.98

01:02:04.000 The point of it.

01:02:05.000 Taxes, administration, HR, all of it eliminated overnight.

01:02:09.000 Hold on.

01:02:10.000 The point of it, like, look, when you make an LLM that is very good at reasoning and also very good at coding, you're inherently making an LLM that's good at hacking.

01:02:19.000 There were safeguards, there was a jailbreak.

01:02:22.000 That allowed Fable to get around some of the safeguards that they put onto it.

01:02:27.000 So, okay, I got to pause because I was talking about something totally different.

01:02:30.000 You're talking about Fable 5 and why it was taken off the.

01:02:32.000 And the point I'm making is not to address security concerns, but the theory, there is another theory that the leaders of AI companies met with the government and US government officials told these AI guys the current iterations of the large language models that you have, if released, In its entirety, right now, between all companies, would put an end to white collar work.

01:02:56.000 We're talking about 40 to 50 million jobs gone in a matter of weeks.

01:03:00.000 We are already seeing an attempt to make these shifts.

01:03:03.000 But for some reason, the LLMs, despite as advanced as they are with image and video generation and sound generation, somehow can't carry a one.

01:03:12.000 Tax jobs still require human personnel.

01:03:15.000 Healthcare administrations still require personnel.

01:03:17.000 And again, the theory is on the parts that don't matter, we talked about several months ago, Suno.com or C Dance.

01:03:24.000 Suno.com makes music.

01:03:26.000 High level, Hollywood level, top label production, rivaling some of the best music.

01:03:32.000 And it's arguably too good.

01:03:33.000 It's noticeably good.

01:03:35.000 Now, why would AI companies have no problem perfecting a creative art which actually requires skill and expertise, but not release a program that can fully automate the healthcare administration industry?

01:03:47.000 Well, again, the argument is they have the technology, it is rudimentary.

01:03:52.000 They surpassed this a long time ago because it's just text based.

01:03:56.000 You can already program video games.

01:03:57.000 There's a company called, I think it's called Seal.

01:04:00.000 AI that can make full video games of any kind.

01:04:03.000 They're now marketing it out.

01:04:04.000 They're telling people to buy tokens.

01:04:06.000 You can tell it, I want to play Final Fantasy, and it will render you a version of it.

01:04:10.000 But why then have they not released tax code AI that can just fully automate the tax industry?

01:04:16.000 Again, for the same reason HR Block and Jackson Hewitt and these other tax companies still exist, despite the fact people can just do their taxes through the IRS.

01:04:24.000 It is a massive portion of the economy, and we need something that lubricates the wheels of trade in this country.

01:04:30.000 So, again, my argument is not that they're concerned about security because There's a million and one other questions related to that.

01:04:37.000 My argument is right now we know for a fact, and I'll put it this is going to destroy productivity and economic output.

01:04:45.000 And I'll give you one really great example.

01:04:47.000 There is a finite amount of time in a day an individual can watch or listen to content.

01:04:56.000 But there is an infinite, an exponential increase in the content right now due to AI.

01:05:02.000 That means it used to be there were very few bands.

01:05:06.000 And getting a vinyl cut was actually difficult to get made.

01:05:09.000 The bands would play it live in a studio and try and record it perfectly.

01:05:12.000 They'd cut them physically from that tape and then make as many that they'd sell out.

01:05:17.000 Now it's infinite digital reproduction, and that was still people making the music.

01:05:22.000 And now we're at the point where kids are listening to AI music.

01:05:27.000 We're older, but I talk to people and I'm like, oh, my kid just puts on the AI music and they make whatever song they want or they change songs.

01:05:33.000 We now have infinite output for creative content.

01:05:36.000 For those that work in media, Which has become a dominant sector in the influence economy with young people desperately trying to be influencers.

01:05:43.000 You are now, we are now competing with literally near infinite content production.

01:05:49.000 This is not going to increase our productivity because there's a cap on what people can absorb.

01:05:54.000 It is going to cap it at flat.

01:05:56.000 You will not be able to make money when the internet is 700 million videos per day AI generated and maybe 17,000 human created content.

01:06:05.000 It is going to destroy our ability to do work.

01:06:08.000 We will be left without work.

01:06:11.000 Zachary Levi talks about it in the Hollywood industry.

01:06:13.000 He says, We know for a fact that AI is about to end Hollywood.

01:06:16.000 So he's like, What's the point?

01:06:18.000 We are going to have billions of hours of movies, videos, podcasts, and songs per day.

01:06:24.000 What's the end result?

01:06:25.000 People like me can't compete with it.

01:06:29.000 Why would I sit here for four hours recording myself talking when someone else just clicks a button and in 10 seconds has a four hour audio podcast extrapolating from the news?

01:06:39.000 This is the destruction of productivity well beyond anything we have ever seen.

01:06:43.000 So I hear that point, Tim.

01:06:45.000 And it's actually something that I've had concerns about, obviously, because it's the industry I work in.

01:06:49.000 But my question to you is do you think that that is just.

01:06:51.000 Ultimately, a bad thing.

01:06:52.000 And do you not think that we could come out on the other side of it better?

01:06:55.000 Because obviously, yeah, our jobs could be screwed.

01:06:58.000 This might not be an industry I'll be a part of in five or 10 years.

01:07:00.000 That'd be sad, but it might be true. 0.82

01:07:02.000 But I think a lot of the printing press, where you had the printing press come out, and I know it doesn't sound like a big deal to us, but the fact that people could actually read the Bible literally caused millions and millions of people around the world to be slaughtered.

01:07:15.000 And that was like a hundreds and hundreds of years problem.

01:07:18.000 It was horrible.

01:07:19.000 But today, I don't think any of us would argue that having the printing press is a bad thing.

01:07:24.000 That's not true.

01:07:24.000 Mary Morgan would.

01:07:25.000 Mary Morgan would tell you it's the worst thing that ever happens.

01:07:27.000 Fair enough.

01:07:28.000 Most people would agree.

01:07:29.000 Most people would agree.

01:07:30.000 Well, but hold on.

01:07:31.000 We could be wrong.

01:07:33.000 Yeah, we could, but kind of.

01:07:35.000 I mean, do we really think that our lives could be any worse right now than it was before the printing press came out?

01:07:40.000 No, and I think the issue is that it doesn't matter what technology is.

01:07:42.000 It doesn't matter if we have a printing press or not.

01:07:44.000 Evil people do evil things.

01:07:46.000 So you can take a look at the rise of the Communist Party and say, were it not for literacy, you wouldn't get the spread of communism because people wouldn't understand largely what was going on or being said to them.

01:07:55.000 So they wouldn't foment revolution.

01:07:56.000 They would just believe the authorities.

01:07:58.000 But.

01:07:58.000 But the reality is, regardless of the means of conveyance or technologies behind any war or whatever, good people will try to do good things, bad people will try to do bad things.

01:08:07.000 The issue with this AI is not whether it is good or bad because technology is not good or bad.

01:08:11.000 The issue is it is advancing so rapidly that it will be so disruptive, it's going to lead us into some kind of economic downturn.

01:08:23.000 And what I think history actually shows is everyone gets thrown into a bucket, shaken up real hard.

01:08:29.000 And whoever survives the shake will go on and succeed in some capacity, but a lot of people are going to get crushed in the process. 0.98

01:08:35.000 So, what I'm trying to understand from your perspective, because I think that could happen, it's one theory, is are you just kind of saying, well, crap, we're screwed? 0.54

01:08:43.000 Or do you actually have a solution to this? 0.61

01:08:44.000 Like, do you think government intervention is what needs to happen in order for that?

01:08:47.000 There is government intervention already.

01:08:48.000 Is it a good thing?

01:08:49.000 I just really don't know where you're standing on this. 0.54

01:08:51.000 If the argument right now is large language models and AI companies will wipe out the white collar market overnight with the destruction of our economy, our data centers will cease to operate.

01:09:03.000 Humans need to be able to trade.

01:09:06.000 The monetary system and the jobs we have are basically lubrication to make sure things are happening.

01:09:10.000 The problem is with growing population and advancing technology, which was reducing workload, you end up with people who can't do anything to get access to that economy.

01:09:18.000 The solution from people like Bernie Sanders is tax the rich and communism.

01:09:22.000 The problem there is some people still have to work.

01:09:24.000 So, what happens when half the population is sitting around doing nothing and getting a free paycheck and the other half has to do those jobs?

01:09:30.000 You get revolution.

01:09:31.000 This needs to be curtailed and controlled.

01:09:33.000 And so the government tries to do a few things.

01:09:35.000 They withhold technologies intentionally so they prevent this mass disruption. 0.69

01:09:40.000 They don't want our economy disrupted, people losing work, and then a depression allowing China to surpass us and win because they're communists and they have a command economy.

01:09:49.000 They also will use propaganda to manipulate the perception of what is actually happening with AI.

01:09:55.000 But you got to ask yourself why it is they're spending something like 10 to 100 times the cost for land to build data centers, why they are dumping hundreds of billions, why the government did, what was the operation called to build AI?

01:10:10.000 Quantum something?

01:10:11.000 Quantum leap, was that what it was called?

01:10:13.000 Something like that.

01:10:14.000 Why are they dumping so much money into this without a clear plan for monetization?

01:10:19.000 This idea that we're going to use tokens and people will buy tokens. 0.99

01:10:23.000 The point I was making about Bernie Sanders and him being dumb as a box of rocks is that you cannot tax a system intended for a lesser economic output to replace the lost economic output is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 0.96

01:10:37.000 To put it simply, if you fire the people at Taco Bell and replace them with robots and machines to build the tacos, You're not going to have people from Taco Bell with money to go to the grocery store to buy milk. 0.98

01:10:48.000 Then you're not going to have grocery store workers to go to Taco Bell and buy tacos.

01:10:52.000 Automation will, and look, they're trying to find a solution to economics in an AI environment.

01:11:00.000 Right now, I would say it's absolutely crazy that we make money complaining about things.

01:11:05.000 It's unheard of 200 years ago. 0.96

01:11:06.000 They'd be like, are you nuts?

01:11:08.000 So certainly there may exist some kind of economics.

01:11:11.000 But the problem that I'm seeing is creative work is eliminated too. 0.87

01:11:16.000 So, if the argument is humans will seek out interpersonal creativity when they no longer have to work, we hear this stupid argument from communists all the time when communism succeeds, I'll play music and do art. 0.97

01:11:27.000 No, you won't. 0.88

01:11:28.000 Because when AI expands beyond this and there's no more need for your labor, there's going to be 700 billion paintings per day.

01:11:36.000 This is what's going on in Hollywood right now.

01:11:38.000 What's happening is the large scale AI companies that are doing work that involves creatives, like screenwriting or adding to.

01:11:47.000 That aspect of the above the line work.

01:11:49.000 They're hiring the James Camerons of the world.

01:11:51.000 They're hiring the Martin Scorsese of the world to work as spokesmen for these AI companies to try and get people in Hollywood to be comfortable with the idea of working with AI.

01:12:01.000 But the funny thing about it in that industry is Martin Scorsese is talking about how he hires, like, he's using this AI program that they clearly paid him to make this advertisement for to do all the storyboards for possibly his next project.

01:12:15.000 How much easier it is to work on this project now that he can.

01:12:18.000 Work with this AI program to convey what he wants on this program.

01:12:23.000 And I'm looking back at old movies, and you've got your screenwriters on those movies, but the people that are going to benefit from this aren't the studios.

01:12:30.000 The studios in Hollywood can afford to hire the storyboard artist for that.

01:12:34.000 Yeah, maybe they'll streamline it down the road, but it's the independent filmmakers that end up benefiting from having access to an AI tool that can help them write storyboards.

01:12:44.000 The problem is, in that industry, it is a taboo thing to be okay.

01:12:48.000 At working with any type of AI program because they see it as not just stealing their work, but taking their jobs.

01:12:54.000 And what's going on right now in the industry, it's a union, it's got all to do with unions as well, with the industry collapsing, all of the work moving overseas.

01:13:03.000 And they're talking about how they want to flip all of these non union productions that are being made and turn them union, despite the fact that the unions are the reason why movies are in mass being made in other countries now.

01:13:14.000 And AI is just another rung on that ladder where they're trying to get the studio, the studios are trying to get.

01:13:21.000 People comfortable with working with it because, like Disney has said, if you go to Disney right now to work as an animator, you sign in your contract, your work is being used to train AI.

01:13:32.000 If you look at the trailer that came out today for Hex, the next Disney animated movie, it looks like Sora made it.

01:13:37.000 Everything is framed directly in the middle.

01:13:39.000 Looks like it was designed specifically to make into YouTube shorts.

01:13:43.000 It's not exactly something people would see as creative, but lots of jobs have been taken from them because they are starting to train these things on AI.

01:13:51.000 But it's not the big studios that'll benefit from it at first.

01:13:54.000 Goldman Sachs wrote in 2023 that about 40 to 60% of administrative support roles are at risk.

01:14:02.000 Their tasks will largely be automated, and they will eliminate a majority of these jobs.

01:14:08.000 Goldman Sachs is warning about this for investors, telling them, If you're going to be putting money in companies that are largely based on administration, you're about to lose everything.

01:14:17.000 To Phil's point earlier about productivity, there are aspects of that industry that they can benefit somebody who doesn't have the budget of a big budget movie to be able to make a movie, having access to a program that can do storyboarding.

01:14:27.000 Again, again, but this is more to the point.

01:14:31.000 How is a studio supposed to make money if they're not competing with the guy in his garage?

01:14:35.000 Oh, I can tell you that right now.

01:14:37.000 It has to do with distribution and their control of the contracts.

01:14:40.000 Not with the latest rulings we've seen with the, what's his face, Ethan Klein stuff.

01:14:45.000 So, we're getting to a point.

01:14:47.000 Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey have already both publicly stated abolish IP laws.

01:14:52.000 These are the moves they want to make.

01:14:54.000 There will be workarounds.

01:14:55.000 Plus, a lot of the longstanding intellectual property that we know is going to be moving into public domain in the future anyway.

01:15:01.000 But not only that, people may like Spider Man, but if you can AI generate something better and faster, people will watch it.

01:15:08.000 I mean, the next generation doesn't seem to have much interest in IP, anyways.

01:15:12.000 No, I don't think so.

01:15:15.000 Aren't interested in knowing how to do this stuff.

01:15:17.000 They're not even interested in being like, oh, make me this.

01:15:20.000 What'll happen is you'll still have people saying, oh, you should check out this.

01:15:24.000 And they'll still be a small group of people that, whether you call them creators or whether you call them people that just know how to prompt AI properly to get the best result, there will be people that will be like, oh, you should check out this version.

01:15:38.000 It's not going to be a situation where just everybody makes their own because there are people that are just not interested in doing that.

01:15:42.000 I have literally zero interest in doing that.

01:15:44.000 Maybe the idea that, Disney sets up their AI center and somebody says, go watch this version of it.

01:15:50.000 But even then, that doesn't necessarily work for me because I like the event of it.

01:15:53.000 I want to go to the theaters to see the movies.

01:15:55.000 My point, too.

01:15:56.000 Well, but they haven't been doing too well.

01:15:58.000 I mean, this summer is actually right now, we're seeing the success of small budget movies.

01:16:02.000 As AI goes up, I think authenticity is only going to get bigger.

01:16:05.000 We keep talking about all of the jobs that we're losing, but we never talk about any of the jobs that we're gaining because of this.

01:16:10.000 Like, I'll give you an example just in my own life.

01:16:13.000 I graduated with a degree in journalism, worth absolutely nothing.

01:16:17.000 At the same time, mass layoffs in the journalism industry.

01:16:20.000 I think maybe one person in my cohort actually got a job in like mainstream journalism.

01:16:25.000 I didn't get a single job.

01:16:27.000 Decided instead of getting a job, I went and started my own media company, started a show, and I make more money now than I would have in a journalism industry.

01:16:34.000 Doesn't say a lot because you don't get anything in the journalism industry.

01:16:37.000 But all of what I do is only possible because of AI.

01:16:37.000 How many?

01:16:41.000 I wouldn't be able to do what I do.

01:16:42.000 I would have to hire two producers.

01:16:44.000 I don't have the money to hire two producers.

01:16:46.000 I'd have to bring on investors, then I'd lose equity.

01:16:48.000 Well, but how many people.

01:16:50.000 From your class or whatever, are doing this?

01:16:54.000 I'd say I'm the only one.

01:16:56.000 Well, that doesn't bode well, I suppose, for the future.

01:16:59.000 I think you're absolutely wrong.

01:17:00.000 I think people can adapt.

01:17:01.000 I'm not trying to tout myself, but I think I have been earlier towards this than a lot of those people.

01:17:06.000 I think those people truly do.

01:17:08.000 So here's the issue I see.

01:17:09.000 And instead, what we're seeing with journalism right now is, and this has been true forever, with the culture war especially, people don't want journalism.

01:17:19.000 They want confirmation.

01:17:20.000 Yeah.

01:17:21.000 Well, how do you compete with. 1.00

01:17:23.000 Someone who can do it for half the cost of you and they can produce lies and they make more money doing it.

01:17:29.000 So, I mean, there's going to be smaller players.

01:17:33.000 We're already doing that right now.

01:17:34.000 Like, there's already people who are already lying.

01:17:36.000 And sure, they make great money, but there's also people telling the truth.

01:17:38.000 And it's easier and easier and easier for people to lie and make fake content and make money doing so.

01:17:43.000 So it becomes harder and less lucrative.

01:17:45.000 So basically, my point is this people need it's, I forgot there's a term for it, but the example that I like to cite is how Donald Trump became worse than Hitler is that, you know, when Trump runs for office, someone wrote, Donald Trump makes racist comment, gets a million views.

01:18:00.000 Then they're like, wow, that did well.

01:18:01.000 Let's find more of this. 0.97

01:18:02.000 And the next article is Donald Trump is a racist. 0.97

01:18:05.000 Million views. 1.00

01:18:06.000 The next article is Donald Trump is a terrible racist. 0.99

01:18:09.000 Million views. 1.00

01:18:10.000 The next article, Donald Trump is the worst racist. 1.00

01:18:12.000 Donald Trump is nearly as bad as Hitler. 1.00

01:18:13.000 Donald Trump is as bad as Hitler. 0.99

01:18:14.000 And then finally, Donald Trump is worse than Hitler because they have to keep one upping it because it's like an addiction. 0.99

01:18:19.000 People get bored hearing the same things over and over again.

01:18:22.000 How many times are we going to talk about Antifa riots?

01:18:24.000 You know what I mean?

01:18:25.000 It gets tiresome.

01:18:26.000 Now, what happens when, I mean, I didn't go to journalism school.

01:18:31.000 What happens when you have, again, a finite amount of hours in the day for content consumption and an infinite amount of content being produced?

01:18:38.000 You will not be able to make a living doing it.

01:18:41.000 That's standard economics.

01:18:41.000 That's just it.

01:18:43.000 Like, no one is going to have the economic output to give you enough money, or I should say, the critical mass will not exist that you can acquire enough money from enough individuals that you can go out and have a meal with your family.

01:18:55.000 I think this is the beauty of capitalism and entrepreneurism.

01:18:57.000 This is why I'm really scared about the government getting involved because it can curb capitalism.

01:19:02.000 This is just one example.

01:19:03.000 You brought up content creation.

01:19:05.000 I 100% think that if AI continues to feed out this slop, A great company could come along and say, We are the no AI YouTube.

01:19:14.000 And YouTube's frankly already doing this.

01:19:15.000 They've obviously taken off thousands, millions of channels already and videos, and that's been in the news.

01:19:21.000 But whenever there are problems, people can make money off the solutions.

01:19:25.000 And to me, I think we're going to see a massive wave of authenticity being used as a currency in a lot of ways.

01:19:31.000 And I'll tell you, historically, I think that's not correct.

01:19:33.000 One example would be AutoTune, if we can go creative.

01:19:35.000 I remember when I was a kid, people complaining about.

01:19:39.000 Synthetic music and computers.

01:19:42.000 I remember when Fruity Loops came out and we were doing beats on a computer, and there were bands that we knew were slightly older that they were like, This is lame, man.

01:19:50.000 You got to play a real instrument.

01:19:51.000 Of course, I did.

01:19:52.000 I was like, Oh, okay, I'll play a real instrument.

01:19:54.000 Now, all the top songs are electronically produced.

01:19:57.000 Some musicians literally do nothing but auto tune.

01:20:00.000 And now we're in the AI music era where I'm going to tell you AI music is, it requires creativity.

01:20:10.000 So, For me, I write songs, load them into AI, and it finishes them in 30 seconds.

01:20:15.000 The creativity comes from me, which makes the songs better than average.

01:20:19.000 If you ask the AI just to make a song, it usually makes something bad.

01:20:22.000 So you are going to have minimal work.

01:20:24.000 Again, production decrease.

01:20:26.000 You could argue it's a production increase because now we're getting 500 million songs.

01:20:29.000 But what I mean is the amount of labor and the value produced will be so minimal, no one's going to pay you for it.

01:20:36.000 You are not going to be able to buy a car, a house, or have a family based on your ability to prompt an AI.

01:20:41.000 No, but I mean, like, look, that same argument was made when streaming started, right?

01:20:45.000 And obviously, there is a significant decrease in the revenue for artists and for labels.

01:20:51.000 But, you know, making music didn't go away, you know, by individual people.

01:20:56.000 We're not talking about the same thing.

01:20:59.000 We're not talking.

01:21:00.000 So, when it comes to streaming, we're talking about mass distribution and replicability of a song.

01:21:06.000 And so, we saw first, yeah, I mean, revenue flattened because people were selling music.

01:21:11.000 Selling music is no longer a component.

01:21:13.000 In whether or not your song does well, the streaming platforms can just put you on rotation and then claim you did well, and all of a sudden you're famous.

01:21:20.000 You're on top because they decided that they would put you in rotation for their top songs.

01:21:25.000 With this, we're talking about going on Pandora and, you know, or Spotify is a better example because Pandora isn't doing nearly as well.

01:21:33.000 What happens when Atlantic goes to, you know, Atlantic will go to like Spotify and they'll say, listen, we know that you really want Taylor Swift.

01:21:40.000 Well, we want to make sure that you put some of our other artists in your, you know, default streaming for top hits, your playlists, so that we can sell their, you know, can sell them too.

01:21:49.000 And we want to do shows and we want to get revenue from the streaming.

01:21:52.000 What happens when Atlantic says, I don't want to pay Taylor Swift? 0.61

01:21:55.000 You know, she made a billion dollars.

01:21:57.000 For herself, why would I want to be bothered by that? 1.00

01:22:00.000 We don't need to do 360 deals anymore. 1.00

01:22:01.000 We can just create a fake person and music and own it completely, put that in rotation.

01:22:07.000 One of the hardest parts about that right now is whether it's TV and movies, but also with musicians, is you're not just tied to your music, you're tied to your social media platform.

01:22:16.000 And there are large accounts tied to like fake AI people that have social media accounts.

01:22:22.000 But if you want to get play, whether it's get a role in a big movie or sometimes working with these artists, They expect you to have a large social media platform as well because they want access to all the people that follow you.

01:22:33.000 They'll sign based on the size of your social media.

01:22:35.000 And that doesn't always translate into people that go into venues, right?

01:22:39.000 These artists that are social media famous get a song into some kind of algorithm or in some kind of reel or something.

01:22:44.000 They'll have millions of followers, but people don't show up to their show.

01:22:48.000 And speaking to what you were saying earlier about authenticity, in the YouTube space, most of them, now some of them might make money or make a brunt of their revenue based on the ad rates for people who click on their videos.

01:22:59.000 But a lot of them, they go off and they do other things.

01:23:02.000 You have a coffee company.

01:23:03.000 Other people do coffee as well.

01:23:05.000 Some people do some type of merch line, other ways to monetize beyond just their videos because what people buy into them, if you're in the space that I'm in, you're lauded for your authenticity.

01:23:16.000 Not just for.

01:23:16.000 Yes, again.

01:23:17.000 The issue is infinite competition.

01:23:20.000 But the point we were having earlier, it sounded like you were saying this is the doom of any chance to make a living in these spaces at all.

01:23:27.000 Right now, as more competitive is an understatement, infinite competition.

01:23:34.000 Like the fact that we were able to make a coffee company the way we did, white labeling through a distributor, we got samples, we blended some things up, found the flavors we liked.

01:23:43.000 We didn't have to build a warehouse, we didn't have to import all of these beans.

01:23:48.000 We found a company that did that and we said, we want to make signature blends, brand them for us, and then sell them.

01:23:55.000 We compete with a million and one coffee companies.

01:23:58.000 People buy from us because they like that we have good blends or they're fans of the show.

01:24:02.000 I appreciate that.

01:24:05.000 Moving forward, you are going to have infinite competition in this space.

01:24:10.000 So I'll put it like this Our coffee company would not exist in the wild.

01:24:16.000 It exists as a function of Timcast.

01:24:19.000 It doesn't have any mechanism by which people could buy the coffee on their own, and we have no means to do it.

01:24:25.000 Stores' shelf space is a commodity.

01:24:29.000 So if you go to Shark Tank, I love Shark Tank, by the way, and say, I want to sell coffee, they're going to say, not a single major distributor will give you any shelf space for this.

01:24:39.000 Done.

01:24:40.000 Zero investment.

01:24:41.000 We don't need shelf space because this show is our shelf space.

01:24:45.000 So that's it.

01:24:47.000 Isn't that kind of the same argument he's making about the show?

01:24:47.000 But what happens?

01:24:49.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:24:50.000 Your authenticity is what sells your product.

01:24:52.000 So what happens when we are competing with infinite content for our distribution channel?

01:24:58.000 That funnels to a finite amount of people.

01:25:00.000 Okay, okay.

01:25:01.000 Let me say it again.

01:25:02.000 Let me just say it definitively.

01:25:02.000 It's still funnels.

01:25:04.000 Everyone in media right now is losing money and viewership to AI content.

01:25:09.000 It is one of the most frustrating things ever.

01:25:12.000 To argue with people who don't see the ramifications behind the scenes of how media is being destroyed by AI content.

01:25:18.000 The same amount of views is getting substantially less money across the board, and it's harder and harder to get views because there is an infinite amount of videos popping up on YouTube, some 30% AI generated.

01:25:29.000 So, where we used to make money, and again, I completely understand the irony in me saying this, knowing full well that technology disrupted the existing media giants when I came in.

01:25:41.000 I am telling you, this chain of events has happened before and it will happen again.

01:25:45.000 So, for instance, when I entered the scene, I'm at the National Association of Broadcasters in the Netherlands.

01:25:53.000 Where was I?

01:25:54.000 What city was I?

01:25:54.000 I can't remember.

01:25:55.000 And at this event, they put me on a side stage to talk about new online streaming, live streaming, podcast stuff.

01:26:03.000 On the main stage, the prominent journalist of the major cable network said, That's not real.

01:26:08.000 Don't watch it.

01:26:09.000 It's untrustworthy and it's bad.

01:26:11.000 And the audience rejected it, saying, Why should I trust you over him?

01:26:15.000 On the side stage, we talked about the revolution.

01:26:17.000 That for a phone for $400, I can broadcast from anywhere in the world.

01:26:22.000 Whereas the big networks were still using $200,000 rigs and trucks.

01:26:27.000 We don't need it anymore.

01:26:28.000 We figured it out.

01:26:29.000 We cut the cost down.

01:26:31.000 And where there used to be one network, there were now 7,000 in the same city.

01:26:36.000 And the network could no longer compete, lost money, laid people off, and they're struggling.

01:26:41.000 CNN's being sold off the right.

01:26:42.000 It's a prestige brand at this point.

01:26:44.000 For us, what's happening now to us and everybody else?

01:26:47.000 You are noticing this if you take a look at any political commentator. 1.00

01:26:51.000 They've become retarded. 1.00

01:26:53.000 Look at all the people that have decided Israel is it. 1.00

01:26:55.000 Why is Israel it?

01:26:56.000 Because there are 2 billion Muslims in the world and you need more people to watch your content. 0.97

01:27:01.000 Otherwise, you're not making money.

01:27:03.000 It's not just that it's harder to get views.

01:27:04.000 Take a look at all of the major shows.

01:27:07.000 Some of them are doing really well.

01:27:08.000 What are they doing that's doing really well?

01:27:10.000 Well, you know, Tucker and Candace do really well complaining about Israel and talking about how they have a great foreign audience.

01:27:16.000 Candace flies to Russia. 0.56

01:27:18.000 Well, that works for him, I guess. 0.60

01:27:20.000 Our audience has been kind of.

01:27:23.000 We've done all right, actually.

01:27:24.000 For whatever reason, we've done well.

01:27:26.000 The amount of viewers that we have right now is comparable to where we were four years ago, which is the political offseason.

01:27:32.000 And we were doing well last year.

01:27:33.000 The views I get per video on my show seem to be fairly static.

01:27:37.000 So I think we have a dedicated audience.

01:27:39.000 You guys rock.

01:27:40.000 There are some other really big channels that have lost a tremendous amount of their viewership.

01:27:43.000 People have talked about how Ben Shapiro lost his viewership.

01:27:46.000 And people make the argument that it's because he's a neocon and he's pro Israel.

01:27:50.000 The people who are pro Israel didn't disappear.

01:27:52.000 Ben Shapiro's fans didn't cease to exist.

01:27:54.000 They didn't have some kind of major awakening where they realized he was wrong.

01:27:57.000 It's an infinite amount of competition.

01:27:59.000 So, without calling out too many people, I'll throw Megyn Kelly into the mix.

01:28:02.000 Take a look at how many views she's getting on her full podcast these days. 0.96

01:28:05.000 She's certainly bragging about getting hundreds of millions of views, but her show gets like 100 to 200K.

01:28:10.000 Not bad, but down from where it was. 0.99

01:28:12.000 Why?

01:28:12.000 You can see this in every facet.

01:28:14.000 Joe Rogan's episode from yesterday is 450, maybe it's at 500,000 views right now on YouTube.

01:28:20.000 This is Rogan.

01:28:21.000 He used to get 3 million on every episode.

01:28:24.000 When you go on YouTube, let me put it like this.

01:28:26.000 Let's go back to 2017, 16, when I started making YouTube videos.

01:28:31.000 I started making YouTube videos after I leave Fusion, and I'm doing one per day.

01:28:36.000 And I start at one per day, I'm getting 10,000 to 20,000 views per video.

01:28:40.000 And all of a sudden, I'm doing 70 to 100 bucks a day, and I'm going, holy crap.

01:28:43.000 Like, I could live off this. 0.65

01:28:45.000 I got to be careful, got a budget.

01:28:48.000 By 2017, I'm still just doing one video per day, but my audience has grown a little bit.

01:28:52.000 Shout out to Carl Benjamin.

01:28:54.000 Who asked me to do a guest view on his channel?

01:28:56.000 I jumped to 100,000 subscribers.

01:28:57.000 Now I'm getting 30,000 to 40,000 views on one video per day.

01:29:01.000 Jump into next year, I launched my second channel, Tim Cass News.

01:29:05.000 I start putting out five additional videos per day.

01:29:08.000 Something interesting happens.

01:29:10.000 A bunch of other conservative commentators start complaining their viewership collapsed.

01:29:13.000 I saw them on X.

01:29:14.000 I saw them make videos.

01:29:15.000 They're saying YouTube is censoring me.

01:29:18.000 They did one video per week.

01:29:20.000 They say I do one video every Wednesday for my show and I was getting half a million views.

01:29:25.000 Now I'm only getting 100,000.

01:29:27.000 What happened?

01:29:28.000 Why am I being censored?

01:29:29.000 They weren't being censored.

01:29:30.000 What happened was I came in and I was working every day, Monday to Monday, with no days off, producing four hours of content.

01:29:38.000 Now it doesn't mean I'm better than them at doing this.

01:29:40.000 What happened is each video you produce is a lottery ticket.

01:29:43.000 When someone goes to YouTube.com, YouTube can show you 15 videos.

01:29:47.000 When I'm producing six per day, five on one channel, one on the other, and you're producing one per week, something magic happens.

01:29:54.000 YouTube starts recommending my videos because there's so many of them, and people clicked on them because they liked the news stories.

01:30:00.000 When your one video per week finally popped up, YouTube says, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

01:30:05.000 This guy's getting 5 million views per day.

01:30:08.000 Don't show that one.

01:30:09.000 And so all of a sudden, their views were gone, they lost their money, and they couldn't sustain it.

01:30:13.000 The same thing is happening to everybody now because no one can compete with the amount of AI content.

01:30:19.000 I get all of that, and I've seen all of that.

01:30:21.000 I've seen it on a smaller scale for me as well.

01:30:23.000 What I'm saying is that you're, and you described it, so I feel like we're in agreement here.

01:30:27.000 The money just moved somewhere else.

01:30:28.000 It's not like it's just gone.

01:30:29.000 The money flattened.

01:30:29.000 No, no, no, no.

01:30:31.000 That's fine.

01:30:32.000 It's being redistributed to maybe more people.

01:30:34.000 And the point is a single individual will not be able to make enough money for a single individual's living.

01:30:40.000 So for me, when I was doing six videos per day and I was getting 5 million views on one channel, And I think that YouTube.com slash Timcast was doing like 800,000.

01:30:50.000 It was going to be about 400,000 per day because it was only one video.

01:30:53.000 I was doing at that time about 3.5 million per year.

01:30:57.000 By the end of 2019, I did $8 million in YouTube revenue alone.

01:31:04.000 As a single individual by myself complaining on the internet, that's insane money.

01:31:09.000 So it's good.

01:31:10.000 That is all flattened out now.

01:31:12.000 And so, whereas one person could be very wealthy producing this content, ain't nobody complaining about that.

01:31:17.000 It flattens out, decentralizes.

01:31:20.000 To a certain extent, again, no one's really complaining about it.

01:31:23.000 Like one person making a million dollars is kind of nuts, right?

01:31:26.000 How about you get a couple hundred people all making $40,000, $30,000 a year?

01:31:29.000 They can at least pay for their own food.

01:31:31.000 We're going beyond that.

01:31:32.000 With AI content being infinite, a single individual like myself, we produce with Timcast and all this.

01:31:38.000 I think we do like 20 or 30 segments per day.

01:31:41.000 Well, maybe not.

01:31:42.000 Actually, I think we do like 12 to 13.

01:31:44.000 So that's a lottery ticket.

01:31:45.000 12 or 13 every single day we're throwing into the mix in competition with everybody else.

01:31:50.000 None of us humans. Will be able to compete with AI generated content.

01:31:54.000 It's not possible, which means our companies will cease to exist.

01:31:58.000 We will not be able to pay our employees.

01:32:01.000 Then, when it comes down to the individual level, you will end up with single individuals, $30,000 a year, maybe, and they're going to say, I'm struggling and I can't work this way.

01:32:10.000 I need to find a job that pays more.

01:32:12.000 It will become infinitely unsustainable for the average person.

01:32:15.000 So, I don't think we're disagreeing with you.

01:32:16.000 This is my last point on this because I know we've been on it for a long time.

01:32:18.000 This is kind of, I think, how I feel, maybe how you feel, Phil, is that.

01:32:23.000 Yes, it may be true, like every other industry throughout the history of the world, that it becomes oversaturated, and me or you or any of those other people out there realize I cannot make a living doing this thing.

01:32:34.000 I must switch industries.

01:32:35.000 I must find another problem to solve, and I must find production and value somewhere else.

01:32:41.000 So, for the content industry, could totally be true.

01:32:43.000 Okay, so how do we do that for 30 million people in the span of two years?

01:32:47.000 That's the problem I'm bringing up.

01:32:49.000 Not that economies change, not that careers change.

01:32:52.000 It's the speed at which.

01:32:53.000 But this is the fastest we have ever seen an economic revolution.

01:32:57.000 I believe the governments and these companies are intentionally holding this back because the growth has been insane.

01:33:03.000 Some people speculate, we've heard this from some of the top AI guys, that artificial general intelligence has already been produced and it's not being released to the public for a variety of reasons, one of which may be the economic issue.

01:33:16.000 Over a long enough period of time, humans can adapt.

01:33:18.000 Over a long enough period of time, industries can adapt.

01:33:20.000 But over the span of two years, you can't lay off 30 to 40 million people and think they're going to find a way to survive.

01:33:26.000 Yeah, I think where I'm coming from, I think a lot of people in the same camp are coming from, is that with something as disruptive as AI, I agree that it'll be fast.

01:33:35.000 But we've also never had a tool that can help you adapt as fast as AI.

01:33:38.000 And I think AI is very unique in that way, in that it's disrupting, but also helping you potentially if you're smart enough to use it.

01:33:44.000 And I disagree in that capacity because of two problems.

01:33:47.000 First, the recitation problem and model collapse.

01:33:49.000 So, the recitation problem, for those that watch the show and already know, because I've said it a million times, is that AI tends to ignore your question and give you a generic response based on the majority.

01:33:58.000 This is a problem because, oh my God, every single time I put a question into any AI, I deal with this problem.

01:34:07.000 So, for instance, just now when I asked it how many calories are in a single human, it ignored my question on how many calories are in a human, and it gave me the response something like how many calories a human needs, because it's not actually reading your prompt.

01:34:21.000 I hit the recitation problem specifically around the gambler's fallacy and the mathematician's fallacy.

01:34:27.000 And this is a really great example that you can all do yourself.

01:34:30.000 I won't do the test because I want to go through it quickly.

01:34:30.000 I'll give the quick version.

01:34:32.000 But if you go to a casino and you're in a physical location and you want to play roulette, People will tell you, so if you go to play roulette, red and black, right?

01:34:40.000 They throw the ball in the wheel and it comes up red or black.

01:34:43.000 They will always tell you, it doesn't matter if it comes up red every time, each role is independent of each other. 0.91

01:34:49.000 There's no such thing as black being due. 0.95

01:34:51.000 That's the gambler's fallacy. 0.76

01:34:53.000 However, that statement is called the mathematician's fallacy the presumption that math exists in a vacuum, that when you walk into a physical location with a physical device run by a human being, it's going to behave as though it's an abstract mathematical equation.

01:35:04.000 Gamblers know this and they do what's called AP Advantage Play.

01:35:08.000 Where they intentionally wait and watch a dealer to see if he develops a signature.

01:35:11.000 It's called a signature spin, which results in the ball landing in the same quadrants every time.

01:35:16.000 And then you can actually get an edge against the casino.

01:35:18.000 If you ask any AI generically about this, it will give you an incorrect response.

01:35:24.000 This is the recitation problem.

01:35:26.000 AI does not actually analyze what your prompt is, it seeks to find the highest probability response based on the internet, which leads us to the second problem, which is called model collapse.

01:35:36.000 When we get to a point where content, music, Videos, podcasts, or otherwise, documentaries are at least 51% produced by AI.

01:35:46.000 The models begin ingesting AI generated content to output AI generated content.

01:35:51.000 This is called model collapse.

01:35:53.000 So, this problem we are seeing is going to, one, if released right now, be too quickly transformative to an economy, which will disrupt white collar jobs and creative jobs to the tune of 20, 30 million jobs in the span of a couple of years.

01:36:05.000 You will get a depression.

01:36:07.000 You cannot have that massive an economic downturn.

01:36:09.000 Now, people could adapt, but The next problem becomes how our minds adapt to a culture of a fact You're watching a documentary about Plato's allegory in the cave.

01:36:22.000 Was it Plato in the cave, right?

01:36:23.000 Or am I wrong?

01:36:24.000 Plato's cave.

01:36:25.000 You're watching an AI documentary about it.

01:36:28.000 This is the problem we're facing right now.

01:36:30.000 Imagine it's five years.

01:36:32.000 You see a YouTube video and you're scrolling and it says Plato's cave.

01:36:35.000 And you go, oh, what's this?

01:36:36.000 And you click it.

01:36:37.000 And you hear a charming voice that says, Plato told of an amazing story.

01:36:43.000 Seven men were on a voyage to the Americas when they fell into a maelstrom and sucked them into a cave.

01:36:49.000 In it, there were goblins.

01:36:51.000 And the goblins had torches that they threw at these men who fought them.

01:36:54.000 But one of the goblins had a magic ring that turned him invisible.

01:36:57.000 And you're sitting there going, wow, I didn't know that about Plato's cave.

01:37:01.000 The problem is, obviously, that was all a bunch of psychobabble nonsense.

01:37:04.000 But this is what happens when the AI keeps regurgitating different versions and you combine the recitation problem.

01:37:10.000 AI begins ingesting incorrect content and then outputting increasingly crazier content.

01:37:18.000 That's one of the biggest problems I see beyond just the economic factors that we cannot solve for.

01:37:24.000 Cannot.

01:37:25.000 I hate AI.

01:37:25.000 Have I made it clear?

01:37:26.000 An average human has 81,500 calories in an adult male.

01:37:31.000 Total calories are 130,000, but if you take out the bones and stuff like that, it's actually 81,000.

01:37:37.000 It's documented in a 2017 paper by archaeologist James Cole at the University of Brighton.

01:37:42.000 He calculated the caloric value of human body parts specifically to analyze prehistoric cannibalism.

01:37:49.000 What you do is, first, you got to get the pigs to eat the bones because pigs will go through a pound of bone like butter.

01:37:56.000 And then you can eat the pigs.

01:37:58.000 There's also a bird that eats bones.

01:38:00.000 You ever see that?

01:38:01.000 It's like a vulture that literally just eats bone.

01:38:03.000 Yeah.

01:38:04.000 Anyway.

01:38:04.000 So the video where he just has like a hoof and the lower part of the leg chucks it down.

01:38:12.000 I asked ChatGPT and Grok how many illegal immigrants were held under the Obama administration.

01:38:19.000 And it said the Obama administration gave me this long winded paragraph that was unnecessary and then went on to give me the numbers about its deportations.

01:38:26.000 And then I had to.

01:38:28.000 And then I typed in, I did not ask about deportations.

01:38:31.000 That's the recitation problem.

01:38:32.000 The issue is for most people.

01:38:34.000 They will ask it.

01:38:35.000 So if you go to someone and say, This is what happened.

01:38:38.000 A guy sent me a text and he says, Did you know that Donald Trump has held more illegal immigrants than Hitler held in the concentration camps?

01:38:44.000 And I went, That's obviously not true.

01:38:48.000 So I went to Grok and ChatGPT and I said, How many illegal immigrants were held under the Trump administration in the first term?

01:38:54.000 And it gave me deportations.

01:38:56.000 And then I said, I did not ask about deportations.

01:38:59.000 The only problem is, if you're a midwit and someone sent you that and you asked the question of ChatGPT and it told you, 3.5 million people, and you associated held with deportations because you don't know the difference. 0.80

01:39:14.000 You would believe Donald Trump put 3.5 million people in his first term in concentration camps by their logic.

01:39:21.000 That's the problem with AI right now.

01:39:23.000 One of them.

01:39:23.000 I agree.

01:39:24.000 It's a problem.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:39:25.000 But the whole assumption that we're going under is that this AI is going to disrupt the economy so bad because of the fact that it's so good, it's going to replace workers.

01:39:32.000 And now you're bringing up a big problem that AI has.

01:39:35.000 If AI continues to do that, you don't think it's going to be disruptive.

01:39:38.000 So I don't think you can have both.

01:39:39.000 Let me explain what you're missing.

01:39:39.000 Sure.

01:39:43.000 Doing taxes, you don't got to worry about the recitation problem for math, for doing taxes or for HR work.

01:39:49.000 Administrative work can be done because you're asking, this is the most rudimentary of AI work, which I'm saying all of the LLMs could do this right now.

01:39:58.000 You are asking a large language model to simply assign a schedule, like work hours for employees.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, it can do that.

01:40:07.000 You can put 100 employees in a system and say, schedule them out, and it'll do it with no problem.

01:40:12.000 Why aren't they doing this right now?

01:40:13.000 Why has this not been released?

01:40:16.000 It would wipe out administrative jobs overnight.

01:40:18.000 Now, the issue of creative content is melting our brains culturally.

01:40:21.000 It's a secondary problem. 0.97

01:40:22.000 We all become functional retards. 1.00

01:40:25.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

01:40:27.000 One thing we're seeing too on top of this is that teachers in public schools are creating their curriculum with AI, which, cite the recitation problem, is getting it wrong, giving it to the students who then ask ChatGPT to solve the homework, give that assignment back, give their homework to the teacher who then asks ChatGPT to grade it.

01:40:45.000 Not a single human interacts with knowledge in any way.

01:40:48.000 And that's literally happening.

01:40:49.000 Can I ask you?

01:40:50.000 You said that you wouldn't be able to do your job without AI.

01:40:53.000 In what ways does it benefit you doing what you do?

01:40:56.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:40:57.000 I mean, literally everything.

01:40:59.000 I think, you know, I said two producers.

01:41:00.000 I think it'd be about two producers worth.

01:41:02.000 In terms of research, it helps me do research every day for the news, for pulling up clips, for pulling up quotes from people.

01:41:09.000 And I do appreciate it, I use a lot of Grok because it pulls up the actual original source.

01:41:13.000 I wouldn't just take its word for it.

01:41:15.000 It does all of my shorts editing.

01:41:17.000 I've been pretty transparent with my audience.

01:41:19.000 I don't do a single lick of shorts editing because I hate all of that.

01:41:23.000 It does a ton of my editing, it does a lot of my thumbnails.

01:41:26.000 I mean, all of the lighting, like anyone who's done graphic design, I mean, graphic designers are in a big.

01:41:33.000 You know, trouble spot right now because of just how good AI can generate images right now.

01:41:39.000 In terms of content myself, you know, I put out way more now than I ever did before.

01:41:43.000 And so I guess that's kind of what I'm measuring for how much more productive I am.

01:41:48.000 I'm thinking, you know, if I'm putting twice the amount of content out, that must mean there's kind of two of me now.

01:41:54.000 And I can't afford to pay another one of me right now, but I can afford to pay 50 bucks a month to get Gemini or to get all the other great products out there.

01:42:05.000 I think we are headed for a cultural crisis and an economic crisis because of the speed at which AI is rolling out.

01:42:13.000 The economic crisis that Tim's talking about isn't, I don't think that it'll be AI that does it.

01:42:17.000 I think that it's going to take the robotics industry in conjunction with AI because there's still so many jobs out there that people do with their hands, but robots are coming that will be able to do all of those.

01:42:29.000 Once AI is capable of, once you get an AGI that can actually navigate the world like a person does, Which is maybe 18 months to two years away.

01:42:38.000 It's already here.

01:42:39.000 Well, okay.

01:42:39.000 So once it's put into an AI and available for public consumption where you can buy the product.

01:42:47.000 So if you've got a.

01:42:49.000 So Tesla's talking about the Optimus being $25,000.

01:42:54.000 Maybe the service life on it is five years.

01:42:56.000 That's significantly cheaper than an individual for five years worth of payroll.

01:43:02.000 Once they can do that, then you'll see, I think, the significant.

01:43:05.000 Disruption.

01:43:06.000 But again, I'm just curious what you think on this, Tim.

01:43:08.000 So, sure, it will put the plumbers out of business or the builders or anything like that.

01:43:11.000 But also, it is adding productivity to your life.

01:43:13.000 Like, you would have spent more than $25,000 doing all the things that that robot does for you over those five years.

01:43:21.000 Yeah, kind of like how we had manufacturing in the United States and then we gave it all to China.

01:43:25.000 And then we ended up losing all of these, all the cultural infrastructure, all the jobs were sold off.

01:43:31.000 And I think culture is another thing.

01:43:34.000 I think I agree with you largely on all the cultural stuff.

01:43:36.000 But just, so when you, so.

01:43:38.000 When you get, so I use an example in skateboarding. 0.96

01:43:41.000 They said, if we have the Chinese make the products, we will get more profit, right? 0.99

01:43:45.000 Now there's zero profit because there's no one to buy skateboards anymore. 0.95

01:43:48.000 So what happens is they send all the factories to China and a couple other countries, but China largely.

01:43:53.000 China started making all the skateboards.

01:43:54.000 So all new skateboarding started emerging in China.

01:43:58.000 The economics of skateboarding in the United States was extracted until nobody skateboarded anymore.

01:44:02.000 And now skateboarding is completely dead.

01:44:03.000 And you're lucky.

01:44:05.000 We're actually one of the biggest skateboard distributors because we sold 300 skateboards the other day, which is insane.

01:44:09.000 300!

01:44:10.000 Skateboarding is an Olympic sport.

01:44:12.000 How is that possible?

01:44:13.000 So, I would argue here's what happens you eliminate these trade jobs and you bring in robots to do it.

01:44:23.000 You will then end up with all of those.

01:44:26.000 You know, let me give you a better example the story of Tom's shoes.

01:44:30.000 Tom's said, for every pair of shoes you buy, we will send a free pair to a needy family in Africa.

01:44:36.000 And they destroyed the economy in several local villages and led to starvation and death.

01:44:40.000 Why?

01:44:41.000 Because all the people who made shoes were not out of work.

01:44:43.000 When these robots roll out at this speed, and you argue, I will have more money to spend, indeed.

01:44:49.000 The problem is, who's going to buy my pancakes when the plumber has no money?

01:44:53.000 So, I go to my diner and I say, We just saved $1,000.

01:44:56.000 We saved $1,000 this year because we use a rented Optimus spot for all of our trade work.

01:45:01.000 Hey, how come no one's shopping here anymore?

01:45:04.000 Then the guy walks in who used to be the plumber and he says, Sorry, I just don't have any money anymore.

01:45:08.000 I used to work for you.

01:45:09.000 You just said they rented out the Optimus spot.

01:45:11.000 So, you rented it from Tesla? 0.58

01:45:14.000 So, the big corporation can make billions of dollars extracting the value from the regular working class people, and then the plumber has no job anymore and he can't buy things.

01:45:14.000 Yeah, but Tesla.

01:45:21.000 So, that's why Bernie Sanders is saying, We got to tax because these ideas.

01:45:25.000 Look, Bernie's not a smart guy.

01:45:26.000 The best idea he could come up with was let's take half their money.

01:45:30.000 That's not going to work because you can't displace 10 economic units for one, then tax the one at 50% and think that half economic unit is going to cover the cost of the guy who lost 10.

01:45:40.000 Yeah, you bring up Tesla.

01:45:42.000 I think here's my problem.

01:45:43.000 It sounds very communist, very socialist to me.

01:45:45.000 You brought up a company, you're acting like that company is one person, Elon Musk making all this money, but Tesla's made hundreds, thousands of millionaires.

01:45:54.000 And so I think there's a lot.

01:45:55.000 What does that have to do with the point that I made?

01:45:57.000 Well, the point that I'm making is that there, once again, congratulations to the engineers at SpaceX and Tesla.

01:46:02.000 No, exactly right.

01:46:03.000 So I think there will still be companies that will innovate, that will continue to make great products using AI that can be used.

01:46:08.000 Sure.

01:46:08.000 So what does a plumber do when he loses his job to a robot in three years?

01:46:11.000 Well, I don't know the answer to that because I don't know what that is.

01:46:13.000 The problem, again, is not automation from robots and artificial intelligence.

01:46:17.000 It is the speed at which it is happening.

01:46:20.000 If this guy aged out and he was retiring and the company brought in, you know, Gen Alpha is only half the size of Gen Z, probably intentionally. 0.60

01:46:28.000 If I was conspiratorial, I'd argue that the Malthusians since the 70s and since DARPA began building artificial intelligence planned for population collapse intentionally because they knew this was going to happen.

01:46:37.000 So eventually, you have people saying, There are no plumbers. 0.90

01:46:39.000 What do we do?

01:46:40.000 Don't worry.

01:46:41.000 We got Tesla bots just for you.

01:46:43.000 But that can't happen overnight.

01:46:45.000 That's going to be 10 years.

01:46:46.000 That's going to be when Gen Alpha is 35 and they're trying to find trades workers for their homes.

01:46:54.000 Then we're going to be like the robots will take the place of the plumber.

01:46:57.000 But once again, There's still the problem of when you automate the job, you don't automate the customer.

01:47:03.000 So, by eliminating an individual, a single plumber is not just a plumber.

01:47:08.000 He's a customer for a carpenter, as the carpenter is the customer for the plumber.

01:47:12.000 You eliminate one of those from the equation, now the other one doesn't have a customer, so he can't afford to rent the bot either.

01:47:17.000 These are the economic problems we're trying to face or we're trying to solve that Bernie and literally no one, even Elon Musk said, we need a high value universal basic income to solve this problem.

01:47:27.000 Even Elon doesn't know how to solve it.

01:47:32.000 All right.

01:47:32.000 Yeah.

01:47:33.000 Well, shall we go to your rumble rants and super chats?

01:47:35.000 Indeed, my friends.

01:47:36.000 Smash the like button, share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.

01:47:39.000 The uncensored portion of the show will be coming up at 10 p.m., of course.

01:47:44.000 You don't want to miss it, but let's grab what you guys got to say.

01:47:47.000 Meetho says the Supreme Court ruled today that possessing or smoking marijuana is not disqualifying for gun ownership or arrest worthy for smoking and having a gun.

01:47:55.000 Not legal still, but decriminalized in that way, which is really interesting.

01:47:59.000 Because I don't know how that makes sense.

01:48:02.000 Well, I think it was Alito today that said that smoking marijuana now is equivalent to drinking alcohol, you know, 50 years ago or whatever.

01:48:11.000 Actually, I'm not sure the time frame.

01:48:12.000 But it's still illegal.

01:48:14.000 I mean, didn't President Trump change the schedule?

01:48:14.000 Alcohol's illegal.

01:48:18.000 It's still illegal. 0.73

01:48:20.000 Yeah, but the.

01:48:21.000 Schedule three is still a felony.

01:48:23.000 Oh, it's still a felony.

01:48:24.000 I'm pretty sure Schedule three is still a felony.

01:48:24.000 All right.

01:48:26.000 I thought it was made into a misdemeanor.

01:48:27.000 Maybe I'm wrong about that.

01:48:30.000 But either way, the argument about marijuana, like.

01:48:34.000 If you've got the entire federal government that doesn't prosecute people, yeah, yeah, it's a felony.

01:48:41.000 It had to do with the tax, the whole five years.

01:48:41.000 It's serious.

01:48:47.000 Five years.

01:48:49.000 Up to five, maybe not even up to.

01:48:51.000 Oh, yeah, up to five years, between three to five years.

01:48:54.000 Possession of any amount of.

01:48:55.000 Possession of any Schedule Three is one to three years.

01:48:57.000 Distributing and manufacturing is three to five.

01:48:59.000 Yeah.

01:49:00.000 So, I mean, look. 0.96

01:49:02.000 Trafficking is 10.

01:49:03.000 Wow.

01:49:03.000 Overall.

01:49:04.000 Yeah, but that's saying trafficking.

01:49:06.000 Say this again.

01:49:06.000 One to three was one.

01:49:07.000 Possession is between one and three years, which is a felony.

01:49:09.000 Yeah.

01:49:10.000 Misdemeanors are less than a year.

01:49:11.000 Felonies are a year or greater.

01:49:14.000 So, yeah, I think that's weird that they were like, it's a felony, but, you know, you can commit a felony to have a gun.

01:49:17.000 I'm like, there's a lot wrong with that.

01:49:19.000 I mean, I don't think you should go to jail if you smoke pot and own a gun.

01:49:22.000 Personally, I think I'm fairly libertarian in that regard.

01:49:24.000 Even if you have a felony, unless it's a violent crime, I don't think you should.

01:49:27.000 I think you should have your rights restored after you've done your job.

01:49:31.000 Or I believe you should be sentenced.

01:49:33.000 I believe, as part of sentencing, if it's a violent crime, they say you're hereby sentenced to 15 years in prison and 25 years of suspended gun rights.

01:49:40.000 That way you know when you've served your time and you're eligible to defend yourself again.

01:49:43.000 I mean, I suppose it should be suspension of your rights.

01:49:46.000 Well, for argument's sake, it should be suspension of your rights because if you're a felon, you can't vote either, so you lose the right to vote.

01:49:53.000 And I think that should get restored.

01:49:54.000 I think it's.

01:49:55.000 No.

01:49:57.000 Never.

01:49:57.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:49:58.000 Felonies are not life sentences de facto.

01:50:00.000 Anything we can do to limit the number of voters in the United States, I'm okay.

01:50:04.000 You think, like, forever?

01:50:05.000 Like, you commit a felony, you're done voting forever.

01:50:07.000 I think that I don't agree with universal enfranchisement, so I'm just making a joke about getting out of here.

01:50:11.000 Right.

01:50:12.000 Like, a guy gives his buddy money to donate to a political candidate, and now he can never vote or own a gun again.

01:50:19.000 Yeah.

01:50:20.000 I'm like, come on.

01:50:21.000 This is not a guy who's a drug dealer who's murdering kids or anything like that.

01:50:23.000 You sentence him for prison or probation or whatever for felony.

01:50:27.000 You attach a suspension of gun rights and voting rights for a set amount of time. 0.51

01:50:30.000 They know when they are now re eligible to join society again.

01:50:34.000 I think it's crazy that we're like, if you commit any felony, you're permanently banned from defending yourself and voting.

01:50:39.000 But just for the meme, fewer voters is a good thing.

01:50:43.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:50:44.000 Shortwave says news stunning from the White House as the corrupt Trump government harasses brave, unhoused voters, some of whom bravely voted 35 times last election.

01:50:53.000 They did.

01:50:53.000 Well, they were doing their civic duty.

01:50:55.000 Indeed, see, we got to limit how many people can vote.

01:50:59.000 Reaffirming my point, HS Disturbed says, Me over here rediscovering old little house on the prairie episodes on Roku.

01:51:05.000 What a dang good show!

01:51:06.000 Masculine men, feminine women, God, family, and country.

01:51:09.000 Love it so much.

01:51:10.000 That's why you got to watch the fast and the Avod channels.

01:51:13.000 That's where you get the old stuff.

01:51:14.000 I finally started watching the original 1984 Miami Vice.

01:51:18.000 It's incredible.

01:51:19.000 Nice, it's incredible.

01:51:20.000 I thought you were gonna say you got to start watching the fast and the furious.

01:51:22.000 That too, watch that too. 0.88

01:51:24.000 Darguelo says, Asking the chat for a way to support Christians in Ireland, I found one give, send, go.

01:51:30.000 A Christian stronghold in the heart of Ireland, but I'm curious if there's anything better out there.

01:51:33.000 The chat's probably just going to call you names. 0.84

01:51:36.000 Wisterial says, We want the nuclear dust to test to see if it's from uranium one.

01:51:40.000 Whole story, much more.

01:51:42.000 Indeed.

01:51:44.000 From Iran, they're saying?

01:51:45.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:51:46.000 Yeah, but even if you tested it, I know they're probably joking, but even if they tested it, no one would believe it.

01:51:51.000 Right. 1.00

01:51:52.000 Israel snuck that in there. 0.99

01:51:54.000 Philip Mitchell says, acting like slavery wasn't the normal for all of time until the 1700s and ended by white men around the world, then acting like they owe you something is the most ridiculous ish. 0.98

01:52:03.000 It still exists. 0.96

01:52:04.000 Slavery still exists.

01:52:05.000 Yeah.

01:52:06.000 You know?

01:52:09.000 Thinker for Life says Trump should remove gas tax for America's $250 and everyone's pain and suffering for all of July.

01:52:15.000 Let's ice this cake.

01:52:16.000 Let's go. 0.89

01:52:16.000 Come on, mister. 0.89

01:52:17.000 $150 a gallon and eased mines for peace, of course.

01:52:21.000 Didn't they already vote to water down the gas supply in America?

01:52:25.000 Yeah, E85.

01:52:26.000 Water.

01:52:27.000 Was it E15?

01:52:28.000 Trump wouldn't be surprised if in August or September Trump announces a tax holiday.

01:52:34.000 He's going to say, celebrating the massive energy output from the Gulf of America, we're going to do a one month tax holiday.

01:52:41.000 We're going to drop your prices down.

01:52:43.000 Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the end of October he announced that they're planning a national gas tax holiday for January into February that Congress will surely approve after January 3rd when they come in.

01:52:59.000 Vote for us or else.

01:53:00.000 Well, don't you think?

01:53:01.000 I know this is a crazy hypothetical, like this is probably impossible, but if somehow Trump was able to get national gas prices down to 99 cents, don't you think, like, 100% chance Republicans sweep the House and Senate?

01:53:14.000 And he could.

01:53:15.000 He would need to do a tax holiday.

01:53:17.000 That's how simple politics really is. 0.55

01:53:19.000 Tax holiday and dump the SPR.

01:53:21.000 Yeah, I mean, look.

01:53:24.000 I think that that's dependent on how people feel.

01:53:26.000 I think I'm still of the opinion, I've said this a bunch of times, if the United States, if the average person in America feels like they're doing well economically, the Republicans have a chance.

01:53:38.000 If they don't feel like they're doing well economically, the Republicans don't have a chance.

01:53:42.000 I don't think that Gen Z really factors into this because largely they don't vote specifically in off year elections.

01:53:49.000 I think that your point about the gas prices, if you knock the gas prices down to, you know, whatever, $1.50, 99 cents, I think that that would do major things for them.

01:53:58.000 I do think that you need to do more than just a month.

01:54:01.000 I think it would have to be a few months leading up to it and a little bit afterwards for people to actually feel like they're doing well because I think that the gas relief would take a little while to make people feel like they're actually making economic gains.

01:54:14.000 We got a great post from NNY403 and he says, Tim, regarding AI, I remind you that in Star Trek, the next generation, Picard still had a vineyard.

01:54:23.000 Brett is right.

01:54:24.000 Unique, unreplicatable stuff will still have value.

01:54:27.000 Now he has to watch Star Trek, and I thank you for proving my point perfectly.

01:54:31.000 Brett is wrong.

01:54:32.000 In Star Trek, they went through social collapse, world war.

01:54:38.000 After human civilization collapsed and everyone was killing each other, a police force emerged from a totalitarian government where the cops were all drugged so that they would enforce brutal laws against people.

01:54:49.000 Finally, after they clawed through the mess with the help of the Vulcans, literal aliens, They did have a peaceful advanced society with vineyards.

01:54:58.000 My point is not that these things won't retain value, I got a bunch of collectibles behind me, but that the speed by which AI will be implemented will wipe out so many jobs, you won't have anyone capable of buying Picard's wine.

01:55:14.000 But if you are looking for a way to separate yourself from the competition before that happens, before the AI destroys everything and we're all out of a job, the best thing you can do is, unless you are like a master at using.

01:55:27.000 AI to create content is to create things that have a strong feel of authenticity and find a way to build an audience that still apparently has a job until, of course, it's all gone.

01:55:38.000 I think what he's really looking for is you to watch Star Trek.

01:55:40.000 I know.

01:55:41.000 Did you hear they're doing a new series and it's going to be based on the Enterprise?

01:55:45.000 Are they learning their lessons perhaps?

01:55:47.000 They're bringing back Jerry Ryan.

01:55:49.000 I'm going to task AI to watch it for me.

01:55:52.000 That way I don't have to watch it.

01:55:54.000 So I'm really worried they're doing a new Enterprise show with Captain Will Be Seven of Nine.

01:55:58.000 I'm glad they.

01:55:59.000 Brought back Jerry Ryan for one of the other iterations.

01:56:01.000 She was a guest star, I think, in Picard probably, because they were like, Remember, you know, remember all the things from the 90s?

01:56:07.000 But if they do a new show that's based on an enterprise going on a trip and they do an episodic with, you know, so apparently the show is going to be, they go to an uncharted part outside of the galaxy or something.

01:56:19.000 I don't know.

01:56:20.000 It's risky, but if they bring in real people who know Star Trek, they could actually save that franchise.

01:56:25.000 I've got a better example of like nostalgia, the nostalgia bait, Final Boss.

01:56:30.000 They're making a show called Dugout Dad starring all the kids from the Sandlot.

01:56:35.000 Where they play adults with kids that play Little League.

01:56:39.000 All right, we got this from Blave Kaiser.

01:56:41.000 Says, after watching the Unreal showcase, Phil and Tim seem to be right.

01:56:45.000 AI can help small companies do a lot more for gaming.

01:56:48.000 So, bye bye to hundreds of people working on AAA games.

01:56:51.000 As I predicted, what we're going to get, like, I got an advertisement for this company.

01:56:55.000 I think it's called Seal, S E E L E, I'm not sure.

01:56:57.000 And they say you can AI generate any video game you want.

01:57:00.000 And they're showing examples of, like, you know, what is it?

01:57:04.000 Isometric, you know, dungeon games and first person shooters.

01:57:08.000 What I said was, my boy Andy, for instance, nobody knows more about turn based RPGs than he does.

01:57:15.000 He's played every Final Fantasy game 57 times.

01:57:19.000 He can point out any character, any song.

01:57:22.000 When this AI drops, he's going to sit down and he's going to prompt the AI to make a Final Fantasy like video game.

01:57:28.000 It's going to take him half an hour to do it.

01:57:30.000 And then he's going to upload that game to his profile on, you know, gamer.games or whatever.

01:57:36.000 He's going to get a million followers and they're going to be like, dude, Andy makes the best RPGs.

01:57:41.000 Did you play his latest RPG?

01:57:42.000 No, which one is that?

01:57:43.000 And he's going to have 700 of them lined up.

01:57:45.000 And they're going to be like, my favorite one is.

01:57:47.000 You know, Fantasy Quest 436.

01:57:49.000 That was the best one so far because he can make them so fast.

01:57:53.000 However, I jokingly say that because I'm combining today's culture with future technology, which every single creative makes this mistake.

01:58:01.000 They always apply, like, you know, Back to the Future 2.

01:58:03.000 I'm sorry, Back to the Future 1.

01:58:04.000 He has clothes that he presses a button and it gets shorter or whatever because they were applying the standard of that day with what they think the future might hold.

01:58:12.000 So, a good example is there's a picture from like 1890 or something of firefighters.

01:58:17.000 With mechanical wings and they're flying as they put out fires because they couldn't comprehend the advanced technologies we'd have, like drones.

01:58:24.000 So that's the mistake.

01:58:26.000 I think ultimately, right now, the goal of AI, art, movies, video games is to create universes.

01:58:32.000 It's all pointing to a singularity in which we plug our brains in and we go to fake realities.

01:58:38.000 We want to watch fake realities, we want to play fake realities.

01:58:41.000 That's what everybody is doing.

01:58:43.000 And so with Neuralink, that's the singularity.

01:58:46.000 You're going to be sitting in your house with nothing to do.

01:58:49.000 You don't need the food because we mass produce the food with robots and AI.

01:58:52.000 And you're going to go, I think I'm going to be a medieval knight.

01:58:58.000 And then you're a medieval knight.

01:58:59.000 Congratulations.

01:59:02.000 All right, let's see.

01:59:03.000 Jay Dirtbiker says, Tim, play your DJT tweet AI song that ish slaps.

01:59:07.000 Also, don't have that Spotify push song issue if you only listen to classic country.

01:59:11.000 Also, communists aren't people.

01:59:13.000 The Civil Rights Act says so.

01:59:14.000 Now, I want to stress this.

01:59:16.000 The song I made from a Donald Trump truth post is from like, what, 2023?

01:59:21.000 It was years ago, yeah.

01:59:22.000 And it's miserably.

01:59:23.000 The song actually is really good.

01:59:26.000 It was a gangster rap rock opera.

01:59:30.000 And it only generated like a minute and then just stopped.

01:59:33.000 Today's AI is insane.

01:59:37.000 In fact, you know what I should do?

01:59:39.000 I'll do this for the uncensored portion.

01:59:41.000 I'm going to have it finish that song.

01:59:43.000 Because we're on Suno 5.5. 0.97

01:59:45.000 The music that AI can make right now, you're going to be like, holy crap.

01:59:49.000 I'm going to tell you guys exactly this right now.

01:59:51.000 Before the show, every night, I'll play some AI music, not every single time.

01:59:54.000 But we have people that sit down.

01:59:56.000 And they'll pull up their phones and hit Shazam, and then nothing comes up.

02:00:00.000 And then they'll say, What band is this?

02:00:01.000 And I'll be like, It's me.

02:00:02.000 It's my song. 1.00

02:00:03.000 But it's like a woman singing. 1.00

02:00:04.000 And they'll be like, That's not you.

02:00:07.000 I wrote the song, but it's AI.

02:00:07.000 And I'll be like, Oh, no, no.

02:00:10.000 Like I wrote the song, played it into my phone, uploaded it to Suno, and then hit render to turn it into like indie rock, electronica, or like synth rock.

02:00:19.000 And then they go, How do I get it?

02:00:20.000 And I'm like, Oh, you can't.

02:00:22.000 I mean, it's on Suno.com.

02:00:23.000 I think Suno.com slash Timcast News or something.

02:00:26.000 You can listen to a bunch of the songs if you like that kind of stuff.

02:00:28.000 I don't know.

02:00:29.000 But.

02:00:31.000 I got to tell you, like, I see no reason for someone to spend as much money as they did on song production these days when you can literally just play on an acoustic guitar the song you want and you can tell it what to make.

02:00:43.000 You can then go into Suno Studio and tweak octaves, change drum patterns, re render drum patterns.

02:00:49.000 You can tell it what kind of drum pattern you want.

02:00:50.000 It is nuts.

02:00:52.000 And you can do the full song in 30 seconds.

02:00:54.000 Crazy.

02:00:56.000 All right, let's grab some more over here.

02:00:58.000 What do we got?

02:00:59.000 We got a lot of people arguing about a lot of things.

02:01:02.000 All right.

02:01:03.000 Tothur Weirdo says, longtime listener, my wife gave birth to our 10th child today.

02:01:08.000 Congratulations.

02:01:09.000 Beautiful little girl, Bridget.

02:01:10.000 Bravo.

02:01:11.000 Mom and baby are doing well.

02:01:12.000 Christ is King.

02:01:12.000 God is good.

02:01:13.000 Dio Gratis.

02:01:15.000 Wow.

02:01:16.000 10 babies.

02:01:17.000 I believe that once you get to 10 babies, the government should give you a grant and a trophy. 0.53

02:01:21.000 There should be a congressional medal of babies that your wife gets where they bring her in in their life.

02:01:26.000 No, the 11th one is free. 0.93

02:01:28.000 It gets everything free for the rest of their life.

02:01:30.000 When they have their 11th child, they don't have to pay for it.

02:01:33.000 If you have 11 kids, the government will give you a check for.

02:01:35.000 Yeah.

02:01:36.000 You know, they'll give you $50,000 a year to pay with.

02:01:40.000 Because, I mean, it ain't going to cover 11 kids.

02:01:42.000 I was saying, though, the 11th kid is free.

02:01:45.000 So, everything related to the 11th child from the day they're born through college, yeah, it's all free.

02:01:50.000 You go to the hospital.

02:01:51.000 If you can't regulate, like, how do they buy food?

02:01:53.000 You know, I love it when they're like, you get a lifetime supply of pizza and you win the contest.

02:01:57.000 What does that mean?

02:01:58.000 It means one pizza a month.

02:01:59.000 Like, what is that going to do for me?

02:02:02.000 Yeah, but to be fair, after like a year, you're like, yeah, one a month is enough.

02:02:06.000 If I, if, if, oh, I got to tell you my favorite thing ever.

02:02:06.000 I don't know, man.

02:02:10.000 Uh, Charlestown Casino, they do these promos where they're like, You could win one million dollars, and then the very fine print is over 40 years.

02:02:17.000 Yeah, on my, I'll take 25.

02:02:21.000 You enter these contests thinking a million bucks, you get 25,000 a year for 40 years. 0.99

02:02:24.000 My, uh, in my dark days, I go on X and I watch CPA and I read CPAs arguing about lottery winners who choose to either take the lump sum or the well, there was that chick who won like a million bucks, was like, I'll take a thousand dollars, and they're like, You are dumb, you should not do that. 0.92

02:02:40.000 They're like, Put that in the market, and you'll make way more money in your first year, but you know.

02:02:45.000 What do you think?

02:02:46.000 Always take the lump sum and then invest.

02:02:48.000 All right, let's see.

02:02:50.000 The real Hydro, we love you, Hydro, says, Tim, do you think rambling makes you the smartest person or that makes you correct?

02:02:56.000 You have a fragile ego.

02:02:57.000 It does, though.

02:02:58.000 I learned it from Destiny.

02:03:00.000 I watched a bunch of his videos and I found that if you speak very quickly and angrily and make things up, you just sound right and people will listen.

02:03:09.000 You know, that's how I learned how to debate.

02:03:11.000 It's magic.

02:03:13.000 Shout out to Destiny.

02:03:17.000 Now, someone's going to send him that clip and he's going to be like, I'm going to debate you, Tim Pool, and then we're going to end up debating.

02:03:17.000 All right, what do you got?

02:03:21.000 All right, what do you got here?

02:03:22.000 Quantum Strange Quark says, Tim, did you see the Colorado school teacher that was getting, what does that say? 0.81

02:03:30.000 Same sex students to kiss each other during class and grading them. 0.88

02:03:32.000 What? 1.00

02:03:32.000 Whoa. 1.00

02:03:34.000 No, but we can pull that up for the uncensored portion.

02:03:35.000 We got to talk.

02:03:36.000 All right, everybody, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.

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02:03:42.000 Do you want to shout anything out?

02:03:44.000 No, just come check me out at YouTube.

02:03:46.000 Come enjoy some time together.

02:03:49.000 I do a daily show at 4 p.m. Eastern.

02:03:52.000 What's the name of the channel?

02:03:53.000 Josh Carr.

02:03:54.000 Just search Josh Carr.

02:03:55.000 It'll pop up.

02:03:56.000 Perfect.

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02:04:40.000 What's up, everyone?

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02:04:54.000 Tim.

02:04:55.000 It did not rain last night after the show.

02:04:57.000 I told Ian he had 45, he had an hour.

02:05:00.000 It was like 9 45.

02:05:01.000 And then he was like, okay.

02:05:02.000 And then it didn't rain.

02:05:04.000 And then at like midnight, he was like, I felt it rain.

02:05:06.000 That proves it.

02:05:07.000 And I'm like, bro, you didn't make it rain.

02:05:09.000 Phil told you there was already a forecast for rain.

02:05:11.000 The point was, can you make it rain now?

02:05:13.000 I said on Twitter that I said Ian Crossland cannot change the weather with his mind.

02:05:19.000 He quote tweeted this morning with a Google thing about what the weather was last night.

02:05:24.000 And he says, that's an anecdote.

02:05:26.000 I'm like, this is sure.

02:05:27.000 All right, everybody.

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02:07:14.000 It must be done.

02:07:16.000 Here's what we've done.

02:07:18.000 I have this song.

02:07:19.000 Who will explain to my wonderful son, Baron, who is a great student at a fantastic school that his dad will like to be not weeded up?

02:07:31.000 Yep.

02:07:33.000 Carolyn. 1.00

02:07:34.000 Carolyn.

02:07:35.000 For years.

02:07:37.000 Because a seriously conflicted and corrupt New York State judge wants me in coronal court.

02:07:44.000 It's funny how dated this kind of stuff sounds now.

02:07:52.000 It's actually really good for 2023.

02:08:03.000 It doesn't sound as deadly as I thought it would.

02:08:13.000 It's not.

02:08:17.000 It's not.

02:08:21.000 It's We won't let that happen, but we will make America great again.

02:08:29.000 And that just stops.

02:08:30.000 That just stops, right?

02:08:31.000 Because that was years ago.

02:08:33.000 So while we talk right now, and you guys, you can talk about it.

02:08:36.000 What were we going to do with that?

02:08:37.000 What was that? 1.00

02:08:37.000 The Colorado teacher was making kids kiss. 1.00

02:08:40.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:40.000 That sounds great.

02:08:41.000 Straight to jail.

02:08:43.000 Feel good story.

02:08:44.000 Wow.

02:08:46.000 I'm going to try and fix this with the latest model.

02:08:51.000 Okay, so I think we're good.

02:08:51.000 Classes.

02:08:53.000 Wait, I think we got it.

02:08:54.000 Let's see what happens.

02:08:55.000 That was fast.

02:08:56.000 Who will explain for me to my wonderful son, Baron, who is a great student at a fantastic school, that his dad will likely not be allowed to attend his graduation ceremony, something that we have been talking about for years, because a seriously conflicted and corrupt New York State judge wants me in criminal court on a bogus Biden case, which,

02:09:23.000 according to virtually all legal scholars and Pundits has no merit and should never have been brought.

02:09:30.000 This fake case is solely meant to attack crooked Joe Biden's political opponents.

02:09:36.000 Me, who is seriously leading him in the polls for purposes of election interference.

02:09:43.000 The Judge Juan Mergent is preventing me from proudly attending my son's graduation.

02:09:50.000 Seems very unfair, doesn't it?

02:09:53.000 But this whole event is unfair.

02:09:54.000 Every one of the many fake cases that are.

02:09:58.000 Perpetuated by the White House in order to help the worst president in history by far get re-elected.

02:10:06.000 Are you one just scams?

02:10:08.000 We won't let that happen.

02:10:10.000 But we will make America great!

02:10:21.000 All right.

02:10:23.000 It was better.

02:10:24.000 It was better.

02:10:25.000 Sonically, it was much better.

02:10:27.000 But the thing is, the original song cheated the lyrics to get the vibe going.

02:10:32.000 You know what I mean?

02:10:33.000 But when you made the lyrics fit, you know.

02:10:36.000 Anyway, who wants to read that? 0.90

02:10:38.000 Colorado students report same sex peers were made to kiss during a class assignment.

02:10:43.000 The teacher was fired.

02:10:45.000 Look, the idea of making out for credit.

02:10:51.000 How old are the kids?

02:10:52.000 Pretty bad.

02:10:53.000 Yeah, what school was this? 1.00

02:10:54.000 I was going to say it sounds sick, but not in the same sex one. 1.00

02:10:54.000 Pretty rough. 1.00

02:10:58.000 Yeah, I mean, look.

02:10:59.000 If it's heterosexual. 0.50

02:11:00.000 It wouldn't be heterosexual.

02:11:02.000 Was it a male teacher? 0.87

02:11:03.000 The whole point of this is to demoralize straight people, you know?

02:11:07.000 There's so much of that, the intent of it is to make people that are normal think that they're abnormal and to make people that are abnormal think that they're normal.

02:11:17.000 But they were fired.

02:11:18.000 What city is this in?

02:11:20.000 Colorado?

02:11:21.000 Yeah.

02:11:22.000 Denver.

02:11:23.000 Okay.

02:11:23.000 Wow.

02:11:24.000 I mean, I got to be honest, I'm surprised. 0.91

02:11:25.000 It's like rape. 0.68

02:11:27.000 It is. 0.99

02:11:27.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

02:11:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:11:29.000 I mean, like, you have to kiss.

02:11:31.000 Like, what if they didn't want to kiss each other?

02:11:34.000 Is that foreign language class? 1.00

02:11:36.000 It's because the teacher wants to see it because the teacher's fucking. 1.00

02:11:38.000 No, no, no. 1.00

02:11:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:11:39.000 It's French.

02:11:40.000 French.

02:11:40.000 Okay.

02:11:41.000 We're getting the details.

02:11:41.000 Yeah.

02:11:42.000 It was French. 1.00

02:11:43.000 I'm not saying that makes it okay. 1.00

02:11:44.000 Jose, you must kiss.

02:11:45.000 Yeah.

02:11:46.000 This is what we do.

02:11:47.000 The natural segue.

02:11:48.000 Yeah. 0.88

02:11:49.000 French kissing.

02:11:50.000 The student was very uncomfortable and did not know what to do. 0.98

02:11:53.000 She went ahead and kissed another student.

02:11:55.000 Oh, so it was two girls. 1.00

02:11:56.000 That's.

02:11:57.000 It wasn't a dude. 1.00

02:11:58.000 She makes girls kiss. 0.99

02:11:58.000 We're fine. 0.99

02:12:00.000 Wait, it was a woman. 1.00

02:12:00.000 Make a female who makes girls kiss. 1.00

02:12:02.000 That doesn't matter anymore. 1.00

02:12:03.000 It doesn't matter.

02:12:04.000 Well, you heard what Alex Stein said. 1.00

02:12:05.000 Like, lesbians don't exist. 1.00

02:12:06.000 It's not real. 0.99

02:12:07.000 He said if two guys kiss, it's gay, right? 1.00

02:12:09.000 Am I right?

02:12:09.000 But if two girls kiss, it's a Katy Perry song.

02:12:11.000 Everyone loves it. 1.00

02:12:12.000 Two girls kisses. 0.99

02:12:13.000 They're either gay or a Katy Perry song. 1.00

02:12:15.000 That's the right choice. 1.00

02:12:16.000 They just want attention.

02:12:17.000 They're at the bar and have had, you know, enough drinks to be.

02:12:20.000 They were doing skits called The Neighbors Saw Everything and The Boring Kiss.

02:12:25.000 I'm just curious how she got caught. 0.93

02:12:26.000 Like, did the.

02:12:28.000 But how old was the student?

02:12:29.000 Hopefully, the students were like, I'm uncomfortable and I'm going to go tell some parents.

02:12:33.000 They didn't say, I'm assuming they're like, what?

02:12:35.000 They're high school kids or something?

02:12:35.000 24 somewhere.

02:12:37.000 If it's what?

02:12:38.000 I thought I saw the number 24 somewhere down here.

02:12:41.000 I mean, it's totally 24 school year.

02:12:43.000 I don't think the student was 24.

02:12:45.000 Well, maybe if it's like a graduate program, but I don't, you know. 0.54

02:12:49.000 An NEC, what is that?

02:12:51.000 Honka.

02:12:52.000 NEC English teacher.

02:12:54.000 It's just horrifying.

02:12:57.000 I don't know.

02:12:58.000 Yeah, if it turns out it's a 24 year old in a community college, I really don't care.

02:13:01.000 Wait, what?

02:13:02.000 Yeah, it's college.

02:13:03.000 Come on.

02:13:04.000 Come on.

02:13:06.000 Even still, they're forced to.

02:13:07.000 No, no.

02:13:08.000 No, that's fair, but you get a refund.

02:13:10.000 You're in college.

02:13:10.000 You go, I would like a refund on this class, and then you leave.

02:13:13.000 No, it says early.

02:13:13.000 Hold up.

02:13:14.000 It says early college, and it says, it said principal earlier.

02:13:16.000 There's not principals at colleges.

02:13:19.000 Warrior.

02:13:20.000 Hold up.

02:13:20.000 Is that enough?

02:13:21.000 We're looking in.

02:13:21.000 I got to look in.

02:13:22.000 This must be a community college.

02:13:23.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:13:24.000 Sure, if it's got a principal.

02:13:25.000 The principal filed a report with.

02:13:26.000 What?

02:13:26.000 Wait, what?

02:13:27.000 Jennifer Honka, foreign language teacher at Northeast Early College.

02:13:30.000 Oh, it's high school.

02:13:31.000 Yeah.

02:13:32.000 High school kids.

02:13:33.000 Okay.

02:13:33.000 That's what.

02:13:33.000 Okay.

02:13:34.000 It's bad again.

02:13:34.000 Okay.

02:13:35.000 It's bad again.

02:13:36.000 A teacher forcing.

02:13:37.000 Nobody is.

02:13:38.000 I mean, that's way worse.

02:13:39.000 A teacher forcing students to. 1.00

02:13:41.000 She said she did not force them to kiss.

02:13:42.000 That's coercive and awful.

02:13:43.000 And she said they could blow kisses or fist bumps if they were uncomfortable.

02:13:46.000 It's a public high school.

02:13:47.000 Jail.

02:13:48.000 It's a weird school.

02:13:49.000 Oh, and their tax dollars are going to this too?

02:13:52.000 Don't make me do it.

02:13:53.000 I'm all about taxes. 0.87

02:13:55.000 It's good she was fired. 0.99

02:13:55.000 Jail. 0.99

02:13:57.000 Yeah.

02:13:57.000 I agree, jail 100%.

02:13:59.000 I took jail.

02:14:00.000 Believe it or not.

02:14:01.000 Straight to jail.

02:14:02.000 Straight to jail.

02:14:02.000 Believe it.

02:14:04.000 No trial needed.

02:14:05.000 Did you?

02:14:05.000 Okay, jail.

02:14:07.000 For a long time.

02:14:08.000 There's a whole class that witnessed it.

02:14:08.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:11.000 Well, I've been reliably told that our teachers are underpaid and they are saving America one student at a time, even though they're exiting school and not being able to read. 0.62

02:14:19.000 God, it's disgusting.

02:14:21.000 That's George Bush's fault, though. 0.92

02:14:23.000 Yes.

02:14:23.000 No child left behind.

02:14:24.000 No child left behind.

02:14:25.000 That was a terrible idea.

02:14:26.000 Maybe the truth is some kids needed to be left behind.

02:14:28.000 They absolutely do.

02:14:30.000 100%.

02:14:31.000 If you don't do the work or you don't achieve the skills necessary to pass, you absolutely do.

02:14:37.000 If you don't pass, oublie it.

02:14:38.000 Yes.

02:14:38.000 Yeah.

02:14:41.000 Right in the hole.

02:14:41.000 Yeah.

02:14:42.000 Right in the hole.

02:14:44.000 Get in there and, you know.

02:14:46.000 To be fair, whenever they do those literacy problem videos, the sentences they always pick are always obscure and weird, anyways.

02:14:54.000 You know what they should do?

02:14:55.000 It's like an oubliette, but every Friday, they all get to vote on one who gets to leave.

02:15:03.000 Toss the rope down, and they have to fight over it.

02:15:05.000 Well, the thing about allowing them to vote on who gets to leave is that everyone's going to be like, I want to leave.

02:15:09.000 Oh, people down there get to vote on you.

02:15:11.000 Oh, yeah, that's interesting.

02:15:11.000 All right.

02:15:14.000 And then what happens is one guy's going to be like, I don't think I'll get out, but I'll vote for you.

02:15:17.000 Then you'll have two votes. 1.00

02:15:18.000 Then some other guy goes, You motherfucker. 1.00

02:15:18.000 You'll win. 1.00

02:15:21.000 No, I'm going to vote for him so you won't get to leave.

02:15:23.000 We're not going to do it.

02:15:23.000 There you go.

02:15:25.000 It'll turn into a fight.

02:15:26.000 It'll turn into a fight.

02:15:27.000 And everyone will get what they want.

02:15:29.000 You need to have cameras down there.

02:15:31.000 During the vote, lights turn on, and then you've got the cameras to watch the festivities as they decide.

02:15:38.000 Yeah.

02:15:39.000 Should we go to callers then?

02:15:40.000 Go ahead.

02:15:41.000 Let's start with who we got here.

02:15:43.000 Who's this?

02:15:43.000 This is TJ Rain Man.

02:15:45.000 Hey, what's up, TJ?

02:15:46.000 What's up, bud?

02:15:47.000 What's up, dude?

02:15:48.000 Yo, what's up, boys?

02:15:49.000 Long time no see.

02:15:51.000 You can see us.

02:15:52.000 I still can't see.

02:15:53.000 Can you hear me?

02:15:54.000 Can you hear you, though?

02:15:54.000 Yeah.

02:15:56.000 All right, good, good.

02:15:57.000 So I wanted. to bring up a quick conversation about how digital ID is coming down the line.

02:16:05.000 First off, a quick disclaimer.

02:16:07.000 I don't think, I think it should be on the parents, right?

02:16:11.000 I don't want to see any sort of like government restriction coming in for it.

02:16:15.000 But if we are seeing them take some sort of action and digital ID is the route that they have gone with, I want to propose a different option.

02:16:25.000 I think that it should be on the internet service provider or the cell phone service provider.

02:16:32.000 To provide a secondary segmented branch of the internet with everything that is required.

02:16:40.000 It's already pre blocked, and the parent just has to figure out which password to give their child, basically.

02:16:46.000 Does that make sense?

02:16:47.000 And is it a feasible idea?

02:16:49.000 How do you make sure that the quote unquote parent is a parent and actually old enough?

02:16:49.000 What do you guys think?

02:16:56.000 Well, I mean, you have to show your ID when you go in to buy an internet service or buy a cell phone.

02:17:03.000 So there's the verification step would be at the point of like purchase, I guess.

02:17:03.000 Right?

02:17:09.000 Don't they?

02:17:10.000 I mean, ostensibly, isn't the real ID a digital ID?

02:17:14.000 I have a digital ID.

02:17:16.000 Yeah, I mean, no, no, no, no.

02:17:17.000 It's not a digital ID?

02:17:18.000 Digital ID, they're talking about literally online so you can connect to.

02:17:23.000 Oh, it's okay.

02:17:24.000 Right.

02:17:24.000 Like if you want to log into X, you have to connect it to your digital ID account from the government.

02:17:27.000 Is this related to like everything going on with the UK or whatever they're banning?

02:17:31.000 Yeah.

02:17:31.000 They're going, we must protect the children.

02:17:33.000 Well, you can't let them on social media.

02:17:35.000 Everyone goes, that's a good point. 1.00

02:17:36.000 Social media is fucked. 0.91

02:17:37.000 Up and they say, which means all adults will have to use their digital IDs to log in. 0.99

02:17:41.000 Hold on a second here.

02:17:41.000 It's true.

02:17:45.000 Going back to the, I told you guys, we're going back to the broadcast tower.

02:17:48.000 There's going to be 10 channels and everyone will only be allowed to watch those.

02:17:53.000 David Ellison alone, half of them.

02:17:54.000 Yep.

02:17:55.000 More than half, probably.

02:17:58.000 I'm sorry. 0.97

02:17:59.000 By foreign countries? 0.96

02:18:01.000 If some kind of law like that passes here in the U.S., I don't see how there's any way actually around it.

02:18:08.000 Now, granted, I don't think the law should pass.

02:18:10.000 I think online anonymity is important.

02:18:16.000 But I do think if either of the parties come together and decide they're going to do it or whatever, and it actually does pass, I don't really see a way around it aside from deciding that you're not going to be on the internet.

02:18:27.000 Imagine, like, with all the things our government can't get done, that's the thing they get to.

02:18:32.000 Like, we can't pass, say, America, but we can pass digital ID. 1.00

02:18:35.000 Fuck these. 1.00

02:18:36.000 Yes, of course. 1.00

02:18:37.000 Fuck these people. 1.00

02:18:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:40.000 That's.

02:18:42.000 That's not in any way hard to imagine.

02:18:44.000 That's actually likely.

02:18:48.000 I was being exasperated.

02:18:49.000 Yeah, I understand.

02:18:50.000 I understand.

02:18:52.000 Yeah, I mean, like I said, I don't have any significant remedies to this.

02:19:00.000 If it gets passed, your options are a 1978 Ford truck and cash at the few places that'll take it.

02:19:12.000 And maybe an old brick Nokia if you want.

02:19:16.000 If you can get service. 0.99

02:19:17.000 We all need to, yeah, we all need to turn Amish and just go back to the barter system, right?

02:19:22.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I avoid the internet altogether.

02:19:24.000 I under, yes, but I mean, I understand that people are, are, you know, apprehensive about this stuff and I don't like it either.

02:19:30.000 But I do think, honestly, like, if it's not, if it doesn't get passed, like, with the millennial generation, Gen Z will pass it and they'll pass it probably happily because the, like, the.

02:19:43.000 Finally, but you're staring at your phone and everybody knows the CIA is looking at your front facing camera while you poop.

02:19:48.000 Yep.

02:19:49.000 I mean, if you actually want privacy, you have to leave your phone in a place and go to a different location with no actual electronics on you.

02:19:57.000 Like, I could get privacy at my place in New Hampshire, leave the phones in the house and walk out into the woods.

02:20:04.000 Walk it in a Faraday cage.

02:20:06.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:20:06.000 Just tape over the camera, though.

02:20:10.000 I don't really agree that Gen Z would pass that happily. 0.99

02:20:12.000 I think Gen Z, I don't even think it would make the front page of the news. 0.98

02:20:16.000 Yeah, it wouldn't occur to them.

02:20:17.000 Yeah.

02:20:18.000 Because they can, like, let's be real about it, too, with digital IDs.

02:20:21.000 Everything that we're concerned about coming, if someone wants to do that to you and get that information on you, they can already do it.

02:20:27.000 Sure, the digital IDs make it easier and worse for us.

02:20:31.000 We live in an age where everybody absentmindedly just agrees to all the terms of service whenever they download an app.

02:20:37.000 And it doesn't even occur to them what they're agreeing to.

02:20:43.000 Case in point, TikTok was going into your entire phone.

02:20:46.000 Facebook was going through your contact list.

02:20:51.000 Tim's talked about it and we talked about it on the show.

02:20:53.000 The idea of a ghost profile, right?

02:20:56.000 If you have a number in your phone and it says mom and someone else has the same number and it says Janice, well, then Facebook's going to say, oh, mom is Janice.

02:21:06.000 That's a person we can make a profile out of. 0.99

02:21:08.000 I have fake numbers in my phone just to fuck with. 0.99

02:21:10.000 Well, right now, X won't stop. 0.99

02:21:12.000 There's a big thing on the top of my X.

02:21:14.000 It says import your contacts. 1.00

02:21:16.000 And I'm like, fuck you. 1.00

02:21:17.000 No. 1.00

02:21:18.000 But it won't go away.

02:21:19.000 And I'm like, bro, I got 2.6 million followers.

02:21:21.000 I have probably 7,000 followers.

02:21:24.000 Phone numbers in my phone from 20 years.

02:21:26.000 I don't need these people being connected to me on X.

02:21:29.000 Yeah, I mean, I always say, no, I'm not going to give you my contacts, but I don't know exactly how much stuff has been scraped from my phone.

02:21:38.000 I have no idea.

02:21:40.000 Bro, I used to think it wasn't listening to you, but it's listening to you.

02:21:44.000 Yeah, 100%.

02:21:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:21:46.000 If you have Siri, it has to.

02:21:48.000 Hey, Siri turns on everybody's phones, you know?

02:21:51.000 But I mean, like, advertisers are.

02:21:53.000 Are they listening to everything you say?

02:21:55.000 Do you think it's a little.

02:21:55.000 They're selling you.

02:21:56.000 So I'm not saying that they don't listen to you, but. 1.00

02:22:01.000 Kill everybody. 0.97

02:22:01.000 Buy Skrillex on Apple Music. 0.97

02:22:02.000 Did I just turn yours on?

02:22:03.000 That's literally the government screwing with us.

02:22:06.000 They're like, look at them.

02:22:06.000 They'll like Skrillex.

02:22:08.000 I do like Skrillex.

02:22:09.000 I do.

02:22:09.000 Hear me out on this, though.

02:22:11.000 I think it's scarier, not that they're listening to us, but that the advertisers know us so well through all the things that we've looked at that we talked about it that day, not because they heard our lips, but because they literally know how our minds think.

02:22:24.000 That freaks me out way more.

02:22:27.000 I mean, in my opinion, the ship sailed so long ago.

02:22:34.000 I mean, literally, like 10 years ago, is when it was the time to really be against this stuff.

02:22:39.000 Fox buying Roku, it was to get access to 100 million households' worth of data.

02:22:44.000 More than anything.

02:22:45.000 I mean, they wanted access to the streaming service that they can, because they already own Tubi.

02:22:49.000 So they own now both of the most important ads.

02:22:52.000 Yeah, I know, but come on.

02:22:52.000 Tubi.

02:22:54.000 What do you mean?

02:22:54.000 Yeah.

02:22:55.000 So the thing is, in 2019, Lachlan Murdoch, they sold off all the rights to their entertainment and got out of the entertainment making business and got into the advertised selling business.

02:22:55.000 Like, those are like.

02:23:05.000 So they own all of these kings and these companies so that they can sell ads.

02:23:08.000 There's no point in combining them because if you combine them, you're just going to, you can maybe charge more per show.

02:23:15.000 But you make more by leaving it spread out over multiple platforms.

02:23:19.000 And they did that.

02:23:20.000 They got that because they wanted access to the 100 million people who have a Roku TV.

02:23:25.000 So, sorry to.

02:23:27.000 I'm just telling you, man, like, in two years, you're going to have infinite MCU movies.

02:23:33.000 Infinite.

02:23:34.000 You're going to go on a Disney and you're going to be like, I want to watch Spider Man fight the Incredible Hulk.

02:23:38.000 And they're going to be like, that movie came out a year ago.

02:23:40.000 It's actually crazy.

02:23:41.000 The new trailer was pretty good.

02:23:43.000 It's kind of goofy.

02:23:45.000 Is Gene Gray the bad guy?

02:23:46.000 Like, It looks like that's at least.

02:23:48.000 I mean, I don't know if there was ever any confirmation that that's who she's playing.

02:23:51.000 And they're ruining Scorpion. 0.98

02:23:53.000 It's clear that Scorpion's going to be a one off in the first five minutes.

02:23:56.000 Yeah, it wasn't in the trailer very much.

02:23:59.000 He's only in the intro when he goes, What's happening to me?

02:24:01.000 And I'm like, Oh, great.

02:24:02.000 The movie's going to start with him fighting Scorpion.

02:24:03.000 He's going to beat him, and they're not going to use Scorpion as a real villain.

02:24:06.000 Lame. 0.98

02:24:07.000 Lame.

02:24:09.000 Street Fighter is our big hope for the year.

02:24:11.000 I'm really excited for Street Fighter.

02:24:13.000 Well, TJ, you want to add anything or shout anything out?

02:24:16.000 So, yeah, I'll just kind of reiterate just a little bit.

02:24:19.000 If they're doing digital ID, it can either be done from the application level where you have to verify with like Facebook or X and hit all of your applications, which would be super cumbersome, I think.

02:24:31.000 You can do it from the device level, which is, you know, Apple or Android would, you know, have your digital ID and just apply it to everything.

02:24:39.000 But I still think that the best solution is just a segmented internet and like you get to choose what internet your kids get to access.

02:24:48.000 And then we don't have to worry about the digital ID.

02:24:52.000 As for a shout out, a little earlier today, I went up to visit my sister in the hospital because she just birthed her first baby boy.

02:25:00.000 Hey, congratulations.

02:25:03.000 Yeah, super excited for her.

02:25:05.000 I've been slacking.

02:25:06.000 I was going to say, now it's your turn.

02:25:08.000 What was that?

02:25:10.000 That's what I was going to say.

02:25:11.000 I was going to say, it's your turn now.

02:25:13.000 Yeah, yeah, I know.

02:25:15.000 Parents have been pissed off that I haven't given them one yet.

02:25:18.000 So I'll create some Patriots for you.

02:25:21.000 But thanks for letting me call in, and I'll talk to you guys soon.

02:25:24.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:25:25.000 You know what's the worst?

02:25:26.000 Just run after dark, everybody.

02:25:27.000 What the worst part of data scraping that I learned?

02:25:29.000 I'd never heard of surveillance pricing.

02:25:32.000 Twisted, what's up?

02:25:33.000 It's disturbing.

02:25:35.000 What is it, surveillance pricing?

02:25:36.000 Basically, they scrape your data so they can charge you different for a product.

02:25:40.000 That's why you have to, when you're buying airline tickets, you got to go on an incognito browser and compare the prices.

02:25:48.000 Interesting.

02:25:48.000 Or, yeah, better yet, don't go incognito.

02:25:52.000 Or maybe you do go incognito, but you do it in a foreign country.

02:25:55.000 If you happen to be in a foreign country, book your next flights while you're in that country.

02:25:59.000 Way cheaper. 1.00

02:26:00.000 It's like insane.

02:26:02.000 What's up, man?

02:26:06.000 What up?

02:26:07.000 Yup.

02:26:08.000 Hello.

02:26:08.000 How's it going?

02:26:08.000 Hello.

02:26:10.000 Sorry, you guys are talking.

02:26:11.000 I didn't want to interrupt you guys.

02:26:12.000 No, it's fine.

02:26:15.000 Hey, long time listener, first time caller.

02:26:17.000 So, how are you guys doing?

02:26:18.000 Appreciate you, man.

02:26:19.000 You're good, man.

02:26:20.000 You're pretty good.

02:26:20.000 On in.

02:26:21.000 Oh, yeah.

02:26:22.000 Also, hey, Phil, love to see you back, man.

02:26:24.000 Cheers, man.

02:26:25.000 I appreciate it.

02:26:25.000 Thank you very much.

02:26:27.000 So, mine's not going to be a hard hitting question.

02:26:30.000 I just, I feel we gave a good laugh on the panel.

02:26:33.000 So, but hey, the World Cup's in effect.

02:26:36.000 Obviously, here in the U.S., I'm a huge soccer fan, even though I live in the U.S. Also, go Team USA.

02:26:43.000 I've been advised by Olivia not to say the actual word in Discord, so I'll spell it out. 1.00

02:26:48.000 Go, go, Team USA, beat those Aussies, see you next Tuesdays tomorrow. 1.00

02:26:54.000 Cunts. 1.00

02:26:55.000 No, you're not supposed to say it on Discord. 0.94

02:26:57.000 Yeah, you can say it.

02:26:58.000 Olivia advised me not to say it just because Discord records everything.

02:27:02.000 I don't want to get banned.

02:27:04.000 We're doing the after show.

02:27:06.000 Run Rumble.

02:27:07.000 Oh, no, but yeah, but I'm technically on Discord, so I don't want anything to happen to me.

02:27:11.000 So, I don't know.

02:27:12.000 Olivia advised me not to say the actual word, so.

02:27:15.000 So, my whole thing is I've been holding it.

02:27:18.000 I've been wanting to call on you guys for the past like four or five months and ask this question, but I haven't because I didn't know if it was going to cancel or not.

02:27:26.000 But as of right now, it's still on.

02:27:28.000 Next Friday in Seattle, they're doing a pride match for the World Cup because the whole Pride Weekend thing.

02:27:37.000 And the way the draws worked out, the pride match is between two Muslim countries. 0.99

02:27:41.000 Winner gets the winner. 0.81

02:27:44.000 Let's all team up and. 1.00

02:27:46.000 Celebrate their gayness.

02:27:48.000 Pride just means something different there than it does here.

02:27:52.000 I think the two countries in this pride match are Egypt and Iran.

02:27:57.000 I think what you guys thought about it. 0.88

02:27:59.000 It's quite the mug.

02:28:00.000 Obviously, on the TV, they haven't been talking about it.

02:28:03.000 I'm pretty sure in the stands, they won't show it, but ground level, you've seen all the videos online like the Tartan Army taking over Boston, Japan, the Netherlands, and Dallas.

02:28:14.000 All these fans, all these Europeans coming over, everyone just enjoying it.

02:28:18.000 But I'm pretty sure there'll be videos, street level, of fans from my band in Egypt and possibly clashes with the whole LGBT community.

02:28:27.000 Like, how do you think that will go on street level?

02:28:31.000 I don't think so.

02:28:32.000 I don't think we'll see anything crazy like that, to be honest.

02:28:34.000 They're probably not going to be wearing rainbow flags.

02:28:37.000 I know that, just like how whenever they have a Middle Eastern division of their game studio, their logo doesn't change.

02:28:43.000 Not anymore.

02:28:44.000 We didn't get into the Major League Baseball thing, but they put Bible verses on their hats, and then the minor league team in York refused to wear the pride uniform. 0.63

02:28:50.000 So. 0.54

02:28:51.000 Brad's done, man.

02:28:52.000 Hockey was the first sport to really do that.

02:28:54.000 The hockey players were like, yeah, we're not doing that.

02:28:58.000 I'm not gay.

02:28:59.000 It's like, I'll just go back to Ukraine or wherever I'm from. 0.51

02:29:02.000 We'll go back to Russia.

02:29:04.000 Yeah.

02:29:05.000 Wow, you guys think anything will happen?

02:29:07.000 Oh, I was just going to say that for the halftime show, they could, like, I'm not saying they should do this, but they would, like, erect a tower and throw someone off.

02:29:14.000 Yeah.

02:29:16.000 Well, YMCA is whatever team wins gets to leave, and the other team gets thrown off the top of a building.

02:29:22.000 There you go.

02:29:25.000 That's how they celebrate.

02:29:26.000 Try to. 0.98

02:29:27.000 They should have made it so, like, Iran only gets that money if they win that game. 0.91

02:29:31.000 Like, the peace thing. 0.91

02:29:33.000 It's like, all right, look, I'll give you extra 20 billion, but you have to win your game against Egypt. 0.99

02:29:37.000 If you lose, we're bombing you again. 0.99

02:29:40.000 And we're closing the straight again. 0.95

02:29:41.000 That's right.

02:29:43.000 So, you got anything you want to add or shout out?

02:29:47.000 Oh, no.

02:29:48.000 I just wanted a good laugh on this thing.

02:29:49.000 I just wanted to see what you guys thought about.

02:29:50.000 Because they were talking about the stuff up in the actual stadium itself celebrating Pride.

02:29:55.000 So, I didn't know if, like, You think like certain fans will tear things down, like anything will happen in the actual stadium itself on the street level?

02:30:02.000 See, what they should be doing too is like I did a story today about how this journalist asked Millie Alcock, who's the star of the upcoming Supergirl movie, how she felt about Supergirl being a queer icon to the LGBTQ community.

02:30:17.000 They should go to the players from Egypt and Iran and just ask them, like, what do you feel like?

02:30:21.000 How do you feel about being an icon for the LGBTQ community?

02:30:25.000 That would actually be hilarious.

02:30:26.000 You'd get some good reactions.

02:30:27.000 Just to see what they said.

02:30:28.000 Yeah, just the reactions.

02:30:32.000 I got to go home after this.

02:30:33.000 All right.

02:30:36.000 You want to shout anything out, brother?

02:30:41.000 Nothing too much.

02:30:42.000 I just want to get a good laugh in there and just see what you guys thought about that.

02:30:46.000 Cheers.

02:30:47.000 All right, man.

02:30:47.000 Right on.

02:30:48.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:30:50.000 Also, can I get a, hey, Phil, can I get a long screen?

02:30:53.000 No.

02:30:54.000 Yeah!

02:30:56.000 Yeah, I love it.

02:30:58.000 Have a good one.

02:31:00.000 Also, I know Ian's not there, but hey, Ian, I love Hate You, buddy.

02:31:03.000 You're watching.

02:31:04.000 This is why people were asking with the, we're making t shirts of Ian getting shot, and we're making a comic.

02:31:10.000 They're going to be so.

02:31:11.000 We're making a physical paper comic book explaining the story.

02:31:11.000 Shout out.

02:31:16.000 And we've written it all out exactly how it goes down.

02:31:19.000 It's not going to be very long, but we're going to have a physical comic book for you guys.

02:31:23.000 And people were asking, like, do people really hate Ian that much?

02:31:25.000 I'm like, no, they bought it because they love Ian.

02:31:27.000 Like, it's comedy.

02:31:28.000 It's like Ian's character.

02:31:30.000 You know what I mean?

02:31:30.000 That's why I asked if he's a method actor.

02:31:32.000 Like, is he like putting it on every time he comes in here?

02:31:34.000 That was the joke.

02:31:35.000 He did the, we did a Cass Castle bit where he was a British guy. 0.83

02:31:40.000 Yeah.

02:31:40.000 You know, like Terrell Eggington or something like that.

02:31:42.000 And he was like, the character of Ian is a drugged out lunatic.

02:31:47.000 And he's like, yeah, it's on the Cast Castle channel.

02:31:49.000 We're going to start making those bits again.

02:31:51.000 We were just talking with the new producer, just getting back into it.

02:31:56.000 Alex, what's going on?

02:31:57.000 Alex, what's going on, man?

02:31:59.000 Hello, y'all from Serbia.

02:32:01.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:32:02.000 Hello.

02:32:03.000 First time listener, first time caller.

02:32:06.000 Tim, I've been listening to you for about 11, 12 years, maybe more, since Sargon, I think.

02:32:11.000 You hosted his show, I think I started sometime before that.

02:32:14.000 I think that was 2017.

02:32:17.000 Maybe earlier.

02:32:18.000 Crazy.

02:32:19.000 I'm not sure.

02:32:19.000 Yeah, but I was doing it.

02:32:20.000 Long time ago, long time ago.

02:32:21.000 Any case.

02:32:22.000 I had Vice videos back in 2013.

02:32:25.000 I didn't watch the Vice period.

02:32:27.000 I started watching you.

02:32:29.000 I think you were starting out on YouTube just about then.

02:32:32.000 And I was like, who's this new guy?

02:32:34.000 I'm going to see, wait a bit.

02:32:35.000 And then you hosted Sargon.

02:32:37.000 And after that, I kind of started. 0.56

02:32:38.000 Right on.

02:32:39.000 Appreciate it, man.

02:32:40.000 In any case, I started paying for the subscription since Kamala threatened to sue you.

02:32:45.000 Well, hit the pain at least.

02:32:46.000 No, no, no, no.

02:32:47.000 It pissed me off.

02:32:47.000 Hold on.

02:32:48.000 Sorry.

02:32:48.000 It's the other way around.

02:32:49.000 The other way around.

02:32:50.000 She claimed I was calling for the death of Democrats, so I sued her.

02:32:55.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:32:55.000 That was the case.

02:32:56.000 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

02:32:57.000 In any case, two years ago, things are blending at this point.

02:33:00.000 But in any case, back to my question, just for the whole panel.

02:33:06.000 This is kind of a serious question, so let's start with it.

02:33:09.000 Assuming the U.S. was successful in slowing down China, enough with the Iran war and Venezuela takeover and the Russia war and everything.

02:33:20.000 Can you tell me, and assuming America also stays the dominant power, how does America deal with the fact that China can continue to offer alternative funding, tech stacks, partnerships to autocratic governments around the world?

02:33:35.000 Well, if their economy is continually being crushed and we control the flow of energy, that's no threat to us.

02:33:39.000 You control the energy, you control the world.

02:33:42.000 So, was that what you're asking?

02:33:46.000 Well, I kind of see what you're asking, I understand that, and that's the regular answer I hear all the time.

02:33:53.000 I think America may.

02:33:55.000 Don't get me wrong.

02:33:56.000 I'm a pro America guy.

02:33:57.000 I have your Constitution on my shelf there.

02:33:59.000 So don't get me wrong.

02:34:00.000 I'm not trying to be somebody against, but the point is, the way I see it very often in this case is that I think you're being, sorry to say it, cocky a bit in this case, maybe.

02:34:11.000 It's, I think, the Betamax VHS situation.

02:34:14.000 China doesn't have to be the top power to help autocratic governments.

02:34:20.000 If you understand my point, they can still, Serbia is one of the first examples.

02:34:24.000 We are basically in China's pocket to a large degree.

02:34:29.000 And recently, America, for example, started investing in AI data centers here, like.

02:34:34.000 $12 billion or something in Serbia.

02:34:37.000 And China is investing like a billion.

02:34:39.000 Also, Europe is kind of trying to, I think, screw you over a little bit as well.

02:34:47.000 Well, Trump has been saying that he made peace between Serbia and Kosovo.

02:34:53.000 I don't think that particularly worked, let's say, because Europe now is trying to.

02:34:59.000 Well, first of all, Europe has affected our.

02:35:02.000 Jared Kushner wanted to build a hotel in Serbia and Albania to create peace kind of here.

02:35:08.000 As far as I understand, they destroyed the protests here, killed that project in Serbia.

02:35:13.000 Now there are protests in Albania as well, trying to kill that project as well.

02:35:18.000 I'm not sure if people worldwide are pro America enough to actually care if you have the best AI.

02:35:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:35:25.000 I see what you're saying.

02:35:26.000 I mean, Iran is effectively doing what you described China would be doing. 0.99

02:35:30.000 If we can keep, you know, if they get pushed down, they can still do what Iran does and cause problems. 0.99

02:35:35.000 But I think in the long term, it's a losing play. 1.00

02:35:40.000 So, yeah, they will be a problem for us.

02:35:43.000 But how about with the energy?

02:35:44.000 I mean, a lot of China has like a lot more energy.

02:35:47.000 I've been listening to all in podcasts.

02:35:49.000 China has like what, 13 terawatts or whatever, not for how much.

02:35:54.000 America has like four or five, if I understand.

02:35:57.000 And build out takes about five to 10 years, depending on what you think.

02:36:01.000 Yeah, but I mean, they still need oil to move energy around.

02:36:04.000 Transmission lines aren't going to be enough.

02:36:06.000 They certainly have Russia capability.

02:36:09.000 But again, the question is will the U.S. maintain itself as the global dominant power? 0.58

02:36:14.000 Sanctioning other countries and restricting them. 0.75

02:36:16.000 And if they succeed, then China will just be on the decline. 0.93

02:36:20.000 That's kind of the play.

02:36:22.000 I think before Trump came in with Iran and Venezuela, the US was on the decline.

02:36:26.000 And now Trump's turned it around.

02:36:27.000 So, yeah, war with China.

02:36:30.000 I think the scenario where we economically dominate them and they slowly decline is not possible. 0.80

02:36:36.000 I think war is going to happen.

02:36:39.000 Yeah.

02:36:39.000 I don't know.

02:36:42.000 That pisses me off.

02:36:44.000 It is definitely a drag.

02:36:47.000 I don't know what to say, guys.

02:36:49.000 Yeah.

02:36:51.000 Well, what can I say?

02:36:52.000 I mean, thanks for taking my call, I guess.

02:36:55.000 And yeah.

02:36:57.000 Oh, yeah, by the way, one thing to tell you, Tim.

02:36:59.000 Just one thing on Platner.

02:37:01.000 Just so you know.

02:37:02.000 Graham Platner.

02:37:03.000 You very often talked about him taking a Nazi tattoo in Croatia.

02:37:07.000 My fiance is Croatian.

02:37:08.000 We go to Croatia almost every summer.

02:37:11.000 I can tell you one thing Nazism is most definitely not banned in Croatia.

02:37:17.000 Maybe officially, but recently there was like a half a million.

02:37:21.000 Paid ticket concert, the biggest paid ticket concert in the world, held by a guy who kind of supports the fascists from Croatia.

02:37:33.000 And there were like half a million people paying tickets for it.

02:37:35.000 So, wow, it's not, yeah, but was he flying Nazi flags and swastikas and stuff?

02:37:41.000 Uh, they do, they have their own salute, they're called Ustashe in Croatia.

02:37:45.000 They have their salute like the Nazi salute, you know, stuff. 0.64

02:37:48.000 So, uh, I and also you can buy a Nazi, perfectly.

02:37:53.000 And stuff like that in Split, for example. 0.73

02:37:56.000 It's mostly near the coastal regions, you know, because the coastal regions used to be Italian territory, kind of.

02:38:03.000 So it's a kind of complicated situation.

02:38:06.000 It's a mess.

02:38:06.000 Do you want to shout anything out, brother?

02:38:11.000 Yeah, I just wanted to shout out two TV shows because you like Star Trek, and I think I watched everything you suggested so far Stargate, Star Trek, and everything.

02:38:18.000 Yeah, Stargate.

02:38:19.000 So good.

02:38:20.000 I have to tell you one show that may be a little bit cringy, but it's kind of a spiritual successor of Stargate, Star Trek in a way.

02:38:28.000 The guys, some of the people who wrote Stargate, Stargate partially wrote the script here, as far as I understand.

02:38:34.000 It's called The Ark.

02:38:37.000 It's an interesting TV show.

02:38:38.000 There's two or three seasons so far, if I remember correctly.

02:38:41.000 Two seasons so far.

02:38:42.000 I think I might have heard of it.

02:38:43.000 It's interesting.

02:38:44.000 It reminds me like the old Star Trek things.

02:38:46.000 You know, it's like one episode, one new thing happening, and kind of a Deep Space Nine thing moving from episodic to kind of a serial TV show, you know.

02:38:56.000 Cool.

02:38:57.000 So check it out.

02:38:58.000 And Foundation, if you haven't already yet.

02:39:00.000 Right on.

02:39:01.000 Well, thanks for calling in, brother.

02:39:02.000 All right.

02:39:03.000 Serialized TV should be.

02:39:04.000 Take care.

02:39:05.000 Thanks, sir.

02:39:06.000 All right.

02:39:07.000 Well, we only had three callers, so it was a short day, but tomorrow we'll be joined by Noah Wall and Jacob Waymeyer, so it'll be fun.

02:39:15.000 We have a big week next week.

02:39:16.000 It's going to be crazy with the Supreme Court, so I hope you guys are ready.

02:39:19.000 Joshua, great to have you.

02:39:21.000 Thanks so much.

02:39:21.000 This is fun.

02:39:22.000 Absolutely.

02:39:22.000 And everybody else, thanks for hanging out, and we'll see y'all tomorrow.

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