The FBI has arrested the J6 Pipe Bombing suspect, and now we can all rest easy! This is an emotional and dramatic episode, so be prepared for some dramatic moments. Join me, Tim Pool, as we discuss the events leading up to the arrest of J6, and how it all came about.
00:05:44.000And I'm also very happy to announce that for those that are in the DC area, head over to Mother Shuckers in Martinsburg, where you can purchase a crisp, refreshing bottle because this amazing restaurant now sells it.
00:05:58.000We're going places, ladies and gentlemen.
00:06:00.000Hey, maybe one day pool water will be available for you in your nearest grocery store, which I doubt.
00:06:20.000So I'm the first German asylum seeker under President Trump because I have been under intelligence surveillance for the past years since probably 2019 around.
00:06:28.000So when I was just 19 years old, I had no idea I was such a threat to the German government.
00:06:32.000They recognized this way earlier than me.
00:06:35.000And I found out just this year that they had actually been intercepting my communications, WhatsApp, signal, telegram, everything.
00:06:42.000I found out about this from an American ex-Army intelligence guy who basically became my whistleblower.
00:06:49.000And he said that they actually contacted American intelligence to get access to all these secrets that I had, which was just private communications with my families.
00:06:58.000And it's ironic because they had so much, so many chances to find something damning on me, but apparently they couldn't find anything because they still had to make up lies about me.
00:07:07.000They've been trying to defame me in the media.
00:07:09.000They've been trying to put me in jail for posts that I made on X.
00:07:14.000I am currently being investigated for a post that I made.
00:07:17.000Now I'm applying for asylum to finally break free from this tyranny in Germany because I am in support of the currently democratically most popular party in Germany, the AFT Party, which is essentially just a MAGA equivalent in Germany.
00:07:30.000And our government wants to try to shut them down, even though they are the most popular party.
00:07:34.000So who's really the threat to democracy in Germany?
00:07:38.000And I'm very excited to be here because I've been a fan of this show since I started my own social media thing very small in Germany in like 2019 or earlier.
00:07:56.000Ladies and gentlemen, I have just been informed by a very credible source that the German government has actually acted upon a plot against my life.
00:08:07.000I am now informing the White House and the federal government that they are trying to kill me, and I may die.
00:08:13.000But this weekend, the show is going to be off the air.
00:08:19.000And as an update, I will be informing the FBI of this very credible plot against me.
00:08:25.000All of that is technically true, you know.
00:08:28.000So anyway, how are you doing, Raymond?
00:09:53.000I don't know what evidence they have just yet.
00:09:55.000According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, he's being charged with, quote, transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce with the intent to kill, injure, or intimidate any individual or unlawfully to damage or destroy any building, vehicle, or other real or personal property, and with attempted malicious destruction by means of fire and explosive materials.
00:10:14.000We have the press release here from the DOJ.
00:10:18.000They say Brian J. Cole Jr. of Woodbridge, Virginia, was arrested this morning and charged with for transporting and planting two improvised explosive devices on January 5th, 2021 at the headquarters of both the Republican National Committee and the Democratic National Committee in Washington, D.C.
00:10:35.000They say the well-being of society rests on our ability of law enforcement to safeguard our citizens, et cetera, et cetera.
00:11:32.000But, you know, I'm kind of a wait and see, or I'm kind of the wait and see.
00:11:36.000Feels very on par with the U.S. government for something to take four plus years to get anything done.
00:11:42.000I mean, we talk about, you know, people talk about how they feel like things aren't getting done.
00:11:46.000And I continuously say, look, the government's slow and the government's sloppy a lot of times.
00:11:50.000The reason that they move at the pace that they move is because if they arrest someone and they don't have all their I's dotted and their T's crossed and they actually have the guy, they're going to end up having to let him go.
00:12:02.000And that's worse than taking a long time.
00:12:04.000Yeah, I heard that when they went and arrested him at his house, he asked, did I do that?
00:13:14.000So what was published before is that it couldn't have been this woman because she has videos of her playing with puppies, which is like the stupidest thing I've ever heard because that's not evidence or an alibi of anything.
00:13:26.000Like someone, I recorded a video of Phil juggling that proves he wasn't here on this date.
00:14:04.000To be like, I have a video of if there's a video, I suppose it could be like surveillance video owned by someone else that's like logged in a security system.
00:14:24.000But maybe, I mean, I mean, to be honest, maybe that's just the way they reported it and she's actually like in a lobby and that the hotel had security footage.
00:14:32.000You know, I don't want to make it sound too stupid.
00:14:34.000Like that one guy who claimed he went to a parking lot and this proves Turning Point was sending money to a parking lot because I don't understand what an LLC file to a mailbox is.
00:14:43.000So I don't want to play conspiratorial games, although maybe our viewership would be a lot better if I just used vagaries and acted like everything was a conspiracy.
00:15:12.000And it speaks to the fact that prosecutors aren't actually motivated by finding the person that committed a crime or making sure that the streets are safe.
00:15:22.000They're basically political actors and they want to make sure that they have the highest conviction rate that they possibly can.
00:15:28.000So that way, when they come up for some kind of appointment or some kind of promotion, they can say, look at how great my record is.
00:15:35.000It doesn't speak to how well they're actually serving the community.
00:15:38.000It speaks to their making sure that the people that they select to prosecute are actually, you know, they have them dead to rights.
00:15:45.000And it sets a basis for them down the road.
00:15:49.000So down the road, they're like, okay, every time we get someone to arrest someone, they're at 95%, 96%.
00:15:55.000Yeah, I mean, the audience, the people in the world are like, okay, so they're definitely guilty because the feds are so good at what they do.
00:16:01.000I mean, yeah, but like I said, I think it's more about politics and personal achievement.
00:16:06.000They want to be able to say, oh, hey, I'm this successful.
00:16:09.000And it's not actually representative of whether or not they're finding criminals, whether or not they're serving the community, whether or not they're making their community safer.
00:16:16.000It's about they are selective in the prosecutions.
00:16:19.000It's kind of like the opposite end of the spectrum of saying like crime is down in the city, but it's because they choose not to prosecute anybody.
00:17:00.000Well, there's also, there's like no faith in institutions anymore.
00:17:03.000So when something like this happens, immediately half the population is conspiratorial and the other half just doesn't trust the government anyways.
00:17:11.000You don't have that finality anymore that used to exist when people had faith in the government.
00:17:16.000It's true, but there's no benefit personally for coming out and saying, yeah, I really agree that they got the guy.
00:17:22.000I think this is it and good for them and blah, blah, blah.
00:17:43.000Like nobody wants to get caught being wrong because the worst thing you can be now is to be seen as a fool because you believe something that ended up not being true or you thought somebody was going to be guilty of something that ended up not being guilty.
00:17:53.000So people just hedge their bets and don't if you're and if you're skeptical, like no one's going to go and look back six months to see if you said something and were wrong.
00:18:03.000I mean, look at the Ian Carroll stuff about RFK, right?
00:18:06.000Nobody's going back and talking about that.
00:18:08.000He said that there was a big scandal coming and had him dead to rights and there were a bunch of people that were talking about it for a new cycle or two.
00:19:01.000And the evidence for this is where we currently are with a Republican Party that is now pro-gay marriage, that there are trans and gay Republicans that do advocacy for the GOP.
00:19:12.000That shows tremendously the Overton window has shifted and traditional Republican values are long gone.
00:19:18.000And what we have now is just more of a populist movement that includes conservatives that are moderate and accepting of gay marriage and transgender individuals.
00:19:59.000You know, I think the sad reality that anybody, if you're interested in truth and what's really going on, the problem is you're going to find that most people are not.
00:20:11.000And this is, you know, we're seeing this right now largely with the drama around Candace, of course, and Turning Point USA.
00:20:20.000People just want to be a part of the crowd.
00:20:23.000And they're going to, so if you say something that contradicts their worldview, and this is how it's always been, said it before, I'll say it again, that they're going to abandon you.
00:20:31.000They're going to say, okay, you're no longer in line with the world that I want to be.
00:22:06.000You have to have something that you're working towards so you can build an audience because they want to feel like they're connecting with you, working towards something.
00:22:12.000It's actually, it's like a joke on our channel where I'm like, I'm not here to sell you anything.
00:22:16.000Literally, I'm just trying to help you kill a couple hours of time today.
00:22:19.000But the thing is, that's actually counterintuitive to what works in these spaces because most of the time, it's you're fighting against a company.
00:22:27.000You're fighting against an ideology and stuff like that.
00:22:29.000And for a lot of people, they're just creating, you know, whether it's Ian Carroll or Candace Owens, they've got whoever that they're going against right now.
00:22:37.000And that's just what works in this space.
00:22:39.000I generally think this is a positive thing, though.
00:23:14.000It's kind of like a big psyop, whoever is starting this, whoever is behind this.
00:23:18.000But as long as we keep the conversation going, as long as we don't censor anyone, because I think that was the biggest threat pre-Trump.
00:23:25.000Everybody was censored who said anything that went against the establishment against the mainstream narrative, which unfortunately was the most horrific things like child abuse, literally child abuse.
00:23:39.000And we are now going in the other direction and now in the other direction, we're now realizing that we still have a lot of differences because that's what defines us.
00:23:48.000And I think that's a positive thing in a way because it just shows that we should never get comfortable with any government.
00:23:54.000My question to you would be: what do you think would be a positive direction?
00:23:57.000Do you see any hope for the next administration and who should it be?
00:24:01.000I would say there's a toss-up right now.
00:24:02.000I mean, JD Vance seems to be the guy who's been doing an amazing job in, you know, look, Trump says he wants the prices of houses to stay stable.
00:24:12.000He says H-1Bs, he says all these things.
00:24:14.000And of course, that pisses off Gen Z, who are freaking out.
00:24:17.000JD Vance comes out with better messaging saying, no, no, no, we got to get the prices of houses down.
00:24:21.000He pushes back on a lot of the establishment shills.
00:24:26.000He's willing to be aggressive, but he's got a bit more, I don't know, inline decorum than Trump does.
00:24:37.000The issue that I see largely right now is now that there's no unified enemy, the right doesn't seem to be focused on what they're fighting for.
00:24:45.000So for a while, it really does feel like right now the issue was Trump comes out and says, I want to do great things.
00:24:53.000And a lot of people got behind him because the machine was against him.
00:24:57.000Now that the machine is largely routed and the Bud Light failing a couple years ago and all the things afterwards, now people are kind of like, well, I don't know.
00:25:13.000My view of it is kind of people were supporting Trump and the things behind Trump more so because the left was attacking Trump.
00:25:20.000Now that the left is largely destroyed, the right is splitting up and pointing in random directions.
00:25:24.000And instead of saying, hey, guys, we've got an immigration fight to complete, you have the principal faction that is still very much Trump can do no wrong.
00:25:33.000And the media attacking him is the deep state, things like this.
00:25:36.000But then you get this other faction that is anti-Trump.
00:25:39.000You know, Nick Fuentes is not a big Trump guy.
00:25:50.000And so I'm sitting here being like, are we actually focused on winning for any particular reason?
00:25:57.000It seems like the right is broken up into a bunch of different pieces and there is no unified vision of what post-midterms or post-2020 should be looking like.
00:26:08.000Because there would be that's literally too many things to name, right?
00:26:22.000It was everything is encompassed under the left's rule.
00:26:25.000Now it's a bunch of issues that just largely affect all Americans and they don't have a way of aiming that in a specific direction.
00:26:32.000I think the best way to be successful is to focus on things like the economy and immigration.
00:26:37.000Those are two things that the economy definitely everybody can be can get behind the idea of we need to have a booming economy.
00:26:46.000We need to have an economy that's successful because it's the only way we can manage the debt.
00:26:50.000I don't know that we can even fix the debt problem that we have, but we're certainly not going to be able to manage it unless we're being unless we have a vibrant growing economy.
00:26:57.000And you're talking about, like to be realistic, it's going to have to be really, really booming, 3%, 4% to actually control the situation with the debt.
00:27:09.000And I think immigration is something that most Americans get behind as well.
00:27:13.000When Trump was running, it was a 75% agreed about immigration, something like that.
00:27:28.000And so maybe they're getting a little squishy, but it's still a winner for the Republican Party.
00:27:33.000So if they focus on those two things, I think immigration and the economy are actual winners.
00:27:37.000And everything else, I think, is honestly a distraction.
00:27:40.000The fact that people are paying attention to all this stuff, I think, is because they don't see the results in the economy or in immigration.
00:27:47.000Even though immigration, you know, the Department of Homeland Security would say that there's been 2 million people that have deported and been self-deported since Donald Trump took office, which is cool.
00:27:58.000It's not enough, obviously, but it's cool.
00:28:00.000That still doesn't satisfy the people that are like, you know, nothing ever gets fixed.
00:29:12.000Will you ever have a young generation that agrees with the government?
00:29:15.000I think it's a very natural evolvement of people in this kind of age group where they just have to be contrarians and they don't like what's going on in the government.
00:29:23.000I think as they grow into naturally into more conservative values and starting to think about having a family and actually being more comfortable in life and asking for more security and your stable living conditions, that often makes them more united in a more conservative fashion.
00:29:42.000So I think it's this kind of rebellious phase in a way.
00:29:45.000I also understand why they do feel so insecure.
00:29:48.000I mean, the economy is terrible and that has a huge impact, especially on the younger generations.
00:29:53.000And as soon as they feel that these issues, especially those who are tending more towards the left, they're asking for higher taxes because it doesn't impact them.
00:30:05.000So I think these issues, I think they will tend more towards the middle as they grow older.
00:30:09.000But at the same time, like I mentioned before, they will form their own movement, but it doesn't necessarily have to be completely opposite to what Trump is currently promoting or what we stood for during the time that we have been promoting the right for the past years.
00:30:25.000I think it's going to repeat itself or at least rhyme itself with what we were promoting.
00:30:31.000So I don't think it's something that we have to be scared of.
00:30:33.000I think it's more something where we have to guide the younger generation.
00:30:37.000I would like to be more of a voice for the younger generation rather than somebody who condemns them and demonizes them.
00:30:42.000But the problem is the Trump administration needs to win, or I shouldn't say the Trump, but Republicans win elections in the United States through older voters.
00:30:49.000Younger voters, not only is the younger demographic smaller than the older demographic because people weren't having kids, but the older demographic is more likely to vote in general.
00:31:00.000If you go to the boomers, which is going to be the most active voting block for 2026, and say, we need to get the price of homes down, they're going to go, whoa, that's where all my money is.
00:31:12.000If my home goes down in value, I lose my retirement.
00:31:15.000If you go out and say, we're going to make the prices of homes go up, then the young people are like, well, I'm screwed.
00:31:22.000And I think that's the move they're making.
00:31:24.000Politicians in the United States are basically saying, always favor the old.
00:32:44.000I think it's most people now, especially millennials, they look at what's happening to Gen Z and they're like, I can absolutely see, because we saw the beginning of that with the financial crisis in 2008.
00:32:53.000It's like people talk a lot about how people in these spaces condemn Gen Z.
00:32:59.000I think most people look at the nihilism that's coming from a lot of American Gen Zs and they say that makes perfect sense to me.
00:33:06.000But it feels in a lot of ways like they feel like it was orchestrated by the government post-2008 to actually create the situation that we're in now.
00:33:14.000Yeah, I mean, look, the government is responsible for a significant portion of this, whether it be the incentivizing people that didn't have the funds or the credit rating to buy homes before the housing market crash or the way that they've handled the economy since.
00:33:29.000They spent 10 years just printing money, doing quantitative easing, which is the main driver of income inequality that people feel.
00:33:38.000They feel like they don't have as much money and they feel like the rich are getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
00:33:42.000And they generally are because when you print up money, rich people get access to that money first.
00:33:48.000They can borrow against either their home or what have you, and they can invest that money in the stock market, which is why the stock market has gone up so dramatically in the past 10 years.
00:33:57.000They borrowed money at a super low rate, put the money in the stock market, made themselves a bunch of money.
00:34:03.000And then if you have people that are poor or don't have anything, if they get their hands on money, the first thing they're doing is trying to pay bills, pay for their groceries.
00:34:25.000You know, it's like people got when the government just printed up money and they gave it to people, people that didn't have any kind of assets or whatever, they spent that money.
00:34:35.000Again, it went to Jeff Bezos because they were buying things on Amazon.
00:34:38.000So if you get free money from the government, and even if Jeff Bezos doesn't get it, the billionaires get it anyways because they're the ones that own things and you're going to buy the services and products that they're selling.
00:34:50.000And not even just like people that own businesses.
00:34:52.000It was the billionaires because your mom and pop shops were shut down and you were only allowed to get stuff from Walmart or from Amazon.
00:35:01.000A never-ending problem in politics is that it's just naturally not future-oriented because you're only going to be in office for so long.
00:35:08.000So it's not a delayed gratification type of industry at all.
00:35:11.000And I think that's going to upset a lot of young people who maybe some of them are not even voters yet.
00:35:16.000And maybe some of them are just starting to vote, but they are just in the minority out of all the voters.
00:35:21.000And that typically draws them more towards the left, I think, because they're going to get very frustrated if we don't interact with them.
00:35:26.000So I think something that would be very important for us, like as a community, as a society, would be to promote more future thinking.
00:35:33.000And I guess the most important person who has been doing this for the past years is Elon Musk, who thinks very far ahead, who thinks about us going to Mars in the very far future.
00:35:41.000I think that's a bit too far for politics.
00:35:43.000But generally, just promoting more family values and also for older people or even just our generation, honestly, to think about the future generations, which are our children, and making creating more of this community between younger generations and older generations again.
00:36:00.000Because I think currently there's actually a big age war in politics.
00:36:30.000And Gen Z is never going to see that money.
00:36:31.000And those boomers that have multiple homes, they locked in an interest rate of 2%, 3%.
00:36:36.000And now, if you want to go buy a home, it's going to be 6, 7%.
00:36:40.000And that's a huge amount of money over the course of a 30-year loan.
00:36:43.000So the idea that people, you know, the boomers are like, oh, you know, don't be mad at me, blah, I mean, look, you're going to have people saying, this is not fair.
00:36:51.000You know, this is not fair that I can't afford a home, that I can't get that interest rate that you got.
00:36:56.000You got this super sweet deal because the government was doing everything they can to keep interest rates down and keep them low because they were pumping up the stock market.
00:37:04.000And again, you can't stress this enough.
00:37:06.000They did it for 10, 15 years, for like 10 years.
00:37:10.000You had super, super low interest rates.
00:38:00.000Like, what is it that they could materially do to help young people?
00:38:04.000You know, I mean, if they've got a mortgage at a low rate and they're trying to rent it out, but young people don't have the money to rent it out, they still have a mortgage that they have to cover.
00:38:16.000They can't go ahead and be like, well, I'll lose money on my, or at least they're not going to say, I'll lose money on my on my rental property so that way you have a place to live.
00:38:24.000Even the system that they were born into doesn't really exist anymore because they went to college for much cheaper, but that's not their fault that they went to college for much cheaper.
00:38:33.000And now because the government got involved in student loans, the price of going to college has been jacked up exponentially.
00:38:39.000And there's no way for the newer generations to actually feasibly have a good life.
00:38:44.000Because if there are a lot of these companies now, they've been sold off to major corporations, which put ridiculous rules in place for how people are hired.
00:38:52.000And people just get price, you know, they get basically removed from the job market entirely, whether it's through H-1B visas or the fact that you need to have five years experience for an entry-level job and stuff like that.
00:39:02.000It's literally designed to fail, but that isn't necessarily the fault of the generation that came before them, other than the ones who sold their companies to larger companies, which then put these rules into place.
00:39:13.000You don't see a lot of things in the way of paid, like internships or mentoring programs in the same way that they used to.
00:39:22.000And then millennials or Gen Z get angry when a boomer says to you, you know what?
00:39:27.000Go up to him and shake his hand and look him in the eye and hand him your resume and make sure it's printed out on good card stock and stuff like that.
00:39:34.000It's not really their fault that that advice doesn't work anymore, but it's just, it just further kind of reinforces the divide between all these generations.
00:39:42.000It's a double-edged sword nowadays for young people because young people are doing more staying at home.
00:39:48.000They don't have social skills the way that you did, say, that people did generally 20, 30, 40 years ago.
00:39:53.000And one of the most effective ways to find a job is knowing people, networking with people.
00:40:00.000So if you're not very charismatic, you can't hold a conversation with someone, you don't know where to go to meet people, you don't have particularly good interpersonal skills, and you have to have your mom come with you to your interview, right?
00:40:18.000And if you don't know a lot of people, opportunities are going to slip by.
00:40:22.000And so one of the best kind of best advice you can give to young people is to break out of that kind of cycle of staying home, not going out, not meeting people.
00:40:34.000And as distasteful as it might seem, go to job fairs.
00:40:40.000And even if they're not jobs that you're particularly interested in, the more you're out among people and talk to people, the better your chances of finding some kind of job.
00:40:49.000And people are going to go ahead and poo-poo that idea.
00:40:51.000But I tell you what, it's a way better idea than sitting at home on social media and scrolling through TikTok because you're not going to find any work on your couch.
00:40:59.000It's an even better idea than going to college.
00:41:03.000I do not encourage anyone in there who just graduated from high school to go to college now.
00:41:09.000And I say that as someone, I graduated with the highest degree that you could, the highest grade that you can get in high school in Germany.
00:41:16.000And in Germany, it's even more standardized that you kind of have to go to university.
00:41:19.000Otherwise, you're kind of failed pass and then you don't make it at all in Germany.
00:41:23.000And everybody told me you have to go to university because otherwise you're wasting your great grades.
00:42:04.000I think you need to be updated in everything that's going on on social media, in the media, and understand what actually matters to the world.
00:42:13.000Because the whole idea, the whole idea of becoming an entrepreneur is you need to understand what are the problems, the real problems of people so you can solve them.
00:42:46.000And every generation, except for, I think, Gen X, had some great challenge.
00:42:51.000Although, to be fair, I think Gen X had with the financial crisis hitting them right at like the peaks of their careers, many losing a lot of what they worked for.
00:42:59.000You can see the charts on corporate equities and homeownership when the 2008 crash happened.
00:43:07.000But that being said, I was talking about this earlier with this great clip from Fight Club where Brad Bitt's character says that there's, you know, Tyler Durbin, we have no great war.
00:43:17.000We have no great struggle or whatever.
00:43:19.000Every generation has some kind of struggle, and Gen Z has this one right now.
00:43:22.000The question is, are they going to rise to the challenge?
00:43:37.000I don't think the school, I don't think that the educational system they've been raised on treats people teaches people to actually create jobs for themselves.
00:43:46.000It mostly teaches you to be a worker for somebody else.
00:43:49.000Not everybody has the desire to be an entrepreneur to go out and create the economy for themselves.
00:43:54.000Now, that's possible that eventually, if it's if it comes to that and there's no other options, you know, kind of feet held to the fire, maybe that ends up being what happens to you.
00:44:19.000I was at this local politician party a long time ago.
00:44:24.000And there was some wealthy dude there who said, some people, someone has to work at McDonald's, you know?
00:44:30.000And that's how a lot of these people view the world.
00:44:34.000The issue is right now, McDonald's doesn't pay enough so that you can live a life.
00:44:38.000And it used to be that working at McDonald's was something a 16-year-old did, and then it was a summer job where you got paid a little bit, saved up money, but lived with your parents.
00:44:46.000And then when you got older and got out of high school, you got a trade or a better job.
00:44:50.000But I think this system that we've built over the last hundred years is a lie.
00:44:53.000It used to be that you learned from your parents.
00:45:16.000Well, it's like when you hear entrepreneurs talk about the business, they talk about their, it's an obsession of theirs, right?
00:45:22.000They think about it every minute of every day.
00:45:24.000It's the most important thing in the world to them.
00:45:26.000And it oftentimes will end up being to the detriment of other avenues of their life.
00:45:30.000And most people just don't have that in them to live that way.
00:45:33.000I know that's not the way that I see the world, right?
00:45:36.000Like it would be very hard for me to live that way.
00:45:38.000So I can't condemn people because they're not built in a way that's designed to run, you know, to live your life like that when most people aren't.
00:45:47.000But we are slowly moving towards a world where that's what's going to happen.
00:45:50.000Now, you could say that the creator economy on social media has actually created many entrepreneurs out of people in Gen Z and Gen Alpha, the ones who go out and they work for themselves by making social media content.
00:46:02.000That is a form of industriousness that's probably more natural to them than it is to prior generations.
00:46:09.000Yeah, I mean, but not everybody can make content that's, you know, I mean, that's my point.
00:46:13.000This is the, you know, yeah, this is this is the, the, it goes for every job, right?
00:46:18.000Not everyone can do every job out there.
00:46:20.000It's like, it goes back to the thing we talk about where people are not just cogs that you can replace one person and have them do the same exact job as someone else.
00:46:29.000But it is worth saying that, you know, the people that find some kind of niche that they're good at, people that go out and try a bunch of different things, those are the people that are most likely to be successful, at least to some degree.
00:46:41.000Well, you've actually said that here when you said when we talk about hiring for these types of shows, right?
00:46:46.000You said most of the people, it's very hard to hire people to do on-camera stuff because most people, if they can do it, they're going to do it on their own because they're built that way.
00:46:56.000Well, right now, I just think Gen Z is a generation that has been raised with the least education, I think is the way I'd put it.
00:47:08.000So I think This is not a condemnation of any individual, but I think the people who raised Gen Z, which is largely Gen X, did not instill within their children an understanding of the world, how to make money, how to operate, and worse than the previous generations before.
00:49:22.000With the left, you have the establishment Democrats and the socialist left.
00:49:27.000And on the right now, there's the mega rift, they're calling it, Tucker, you know, interviewing Fuentes, and then everyone's getting all bent out of shape.
00:49:35.000I don't know if this is going to be kind of a, let's call it the period at which the caterpillar turns into a pile of sludge within the cocoon and then something new comes out, right?
00:49:48.000Is this going to be that all the factions start fighting and then new factions form in the next couple of years?
00:49:53.000Or is this the total granularization of politics in this country and everyone will just hate each other?
00:50:01.000If it goes that granular, how do you even run a national campaign?
00:50:05.000I mean, we're at the point now where I question how you run a national campaign.
00:50:08.000How is JD Vance going to win over the Tucker Carlson Fuentes faction?
00:50:15.000Not that they're identical, but the very, let's just say, let's just say Israel critical, and then you have the Christian Zionist faction.
00:50:23.000Anna Kasparian is talking about how she watches Candace Owens.
00:50:28.000So maybe a Republican comes out and says, we're going to, you know, you've got a Republican primary where you've got candidates who are, I'm going to go to Israel.
00:50:35.000And then there says, no way, we're not going to do that.
00:50:37.000And then maybe Democrats start voting Republican because people like Anna Kasparian have left the left already.
00:50:45.000I feel like it's the only thing that keeps us together.
00:50:49.000A lot of lefties hate America and Democrats hate America, but for majority people, if you are anti-Israel, pro-Israel, end of the day, you're America first, mega.
00:50:59.000So if you, if they're pronouncing the message of America and borders, economy, that's the only message I can think of.
00:51:43.000This is, I don't necessarily want to say unprecedented, but again, like right now, you've got all these media outlets that are talking about this rift on the right.
00:52:04.000I mean, Fetterman polls well amongst people who like Fetterman, and AOC polls well among people who like AOC.
00:52:09.000But now that the left is largely routed, now that we're at the point where disaffected liberals, not people like me, of course, because I have a show, but I've talked to a lot of people recently who said, yeah, I used to be somewhat of a liberal, but now I vote Republicans, they've gone crazy.
00:52:27.000They no longer fear cancellation or losing their jobs.
00:52:30.000That means this woke beast has been largely defeated.
00:52:33.000Maybe it still exists, but largely defeated.
00:52:36.000Now people are looking for what they're for and against again.
00:52:39.000And the right is now pointing the fingers at each other and breaking apart, much like the left already did.
00:52:44.000So what does an election look like moving forward?
00:52:47.000Maybe it's, I'm not, I'm not even playing.
00:52:50.000We will come to a point where there will be a Republican candidate in the primary.
00:52:53.000Look at this, Jenk Uger defending Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:52:57.000I would not be surprised if in 2027, there's a Republican primary candidate who is an American working class pro-populist guy who says that we do not want to be involved in these foreign wars.
00:53:12.000We should be about working for the working class, good paying jobs.
00:53:16.000And then you get the young Turks being like, we're voting Republican.
00:53:19.000But then at the same time, the Republican primary is also going to have the pro-Israel neocon who says we need to have a military presence in the Middle East.
00:53:29.000And your traditional Republicans are voting for that.
00:53:31.000And then this is one of the theories people have been throwing around online.
00:53:37.000The Republican Party splits into two parties and becomes Democrat, Republican, or the equivalent of.
00:53:42.000I think the worst phenomenon that's happening right now is this scapegoating.
00:53:46.000Just like we mentioned, we got to have an enemy at all times.
00:53:49.000And as soon as we eradicate this enemy thinking and we think in terms of we can have a discussion with each other, I think that would be positive for all of us.
00:53:57.000So maybe there will be a day when even somebody like JD Vance has a conversation with Nick Fuentes, and maybe they will completely disagree.
00:54:07.000But at least we get an actual picture of what they agree and what they disagree on.
00:54:13.000So then for voters, it's got to be easier to identify, oh, this is actually what I like to align myself with more.
00:54:19.000Because otherwise you're going to have people who just watch Nick Fuentes' show or just listen to the other side.
00:54:24.000And then they never actually get to see the real people behind it because they constantly just watch small clips that the other side pulled somewhere from the internet from them.
00:54:46.000She's fooling everyone there who doesn't go online, doesn't watch these clips.
00:54:49.000With AI, people are going to largely distrust a lot of these videos.
00:54:53.000And then you can never believe anything.
00:54:55.000Then if you're a politician, you'll go back to the old days where you show up in person and you talk like this, say, listen, you vote for me and I'm going to be there for you.
00:55:04.000And then you go to New York and say, listen, you talk to me and I got what you need.
00:55:07.000And then when the video pops up online of you talking with a fake ex, nobody, that's fake AI.
00:55:11.000No, you region specific the clip so you have an AI voice and different accents for wherever the video is being played.
00:55:56.000He's good on families, but he's not good enough on menopause.
00:56:01.000So this one specific issue is so important to her that she's going to tell however many millions of followers she has on social media that you shouldn't vote for this guy because he doesn't support middle-aged women to the extent that I would like.
00:56:47.000The world was better back when you assumed that when somebody was being a jerk, that they were just a jerk and being mean just because the person was a dick, not because they needed a specific group.
00:56:57.000The world was better in a lot of ways back when there was one channel to watch and everyone agreed.
00:57:03.000But the problem with that thinking is while it's technically true that we all agree with each other, they were lying to us the whole time about everything.
00:57:11.000And so what it really was was that ignorance was bliss.
00:57:14.000And as long as the broadcast narrator of the state told you what was true, you agreed with it.
00:57:20.000Now we're in a world where anybody can say whatever they want on any platform and everyone's fighting.
00:57:24.000I mean, it's why the shows that were popular were popular at that time because you didn't have that many choices.
00:57:29.000So certain shows became appointment television.
00:57:32.000And with AI content creation and just the amount of content emerging across social media, it's becoming impossible for anybody to have a unified worldview.
00:57:43.000Let me tell you, it's not better to just have one channel or just a few channels.
00:57:47.000Coming from somebody who's from Germany, we pay taxes for the state media, meaning we have actual communist media.
00:57:53.000And if you watch that, everybody tunes in at 8 p.m. to watch the news in Germany.
00:58:40.000But the thing is that the government and the parties that are in favor of these media taxes, they will be covered favorably by the media.
00:58:49.000So it's good for them to promote the state media.
00:58:52.000And that's why it's such a communist system.
00:58:54.000That's why it's increasingly harder for alternative media to get any recognition.
00:58:59.000This is why now people who are more alternative and support the opposition, they are going on social media.
00:59:04.000Going on X. Twitter was super unpopular before Elon Musk, but since he's been promoting the AFD, now X is becoming very popular in Germany too.
00:59:13.000So I just want to make the case here for more media diversity.
00:59:16.000I know it's extremely difficult to even find what's the truth anymore.
00:59:22.000But I think the most important thing, the best thing that you can do is to go back to your internal values.
00:59:27.000Just understand what you stand for, what your family stands for.
00:59:44.000But if you get yourself some form of good education, that doesn't mean to go to college necessarily.
00:59:50.000It means understanding the real world and being very observant of the real world.
00:59:54.000And I think you have a good chance at life.
00:59:56.000Well, let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen, the mega rift.
00:59:59.000Now you've got Nick Fuentes calling out Candace Owens.
01:00:03.000The story is that Turning Point USA issued a rebuttal to everything Candace says.
01:00:08.000Likely, this was triggered by Candace calling on people to ask for refunds of their donations to Turning Point USA, which is probably apocalyptic for Turning Point USA and can very much destroy Turning Point.
01:00:23.000They apparently offered for her to come on the show.
01:00:27.000And then when they said, okay, here's where we're doing it, she responded with kind of weird how you didn't email or call me to ask about times or availability and chose instead to tweet this confirmation out at midnight.
01:00:37.000Nick Fuentes responds, you were invited to Turning Point USA HQ to press their leadership live and in person about their role in Charlie Kirk's murder, but you can't go because of a scheduling conflict, LOL.
01:00:50.000Isn't this what you've been pushing for since September?
01:01:26.000The excuse is she was always lying, right?
01:01:31.000One of the things that Turning Point brought up was that early on in her investigation, she made a point about men in maroon shirts and then dropped that and moved on and never brought it back up.
01:01:42.000Or Egyptian planes flying around, which is never proven.
01:01:46.000She then made claims that these planes were landing at airports where federal vehicles were driving to a law office and she vetted the person but never proved anything about what these planes were actually doing.
01:01:56.000Then it turns out her own lawyers are working in the same building as the feds.
01:02:01.000But people love the drama, the true crime, and the mystery.
01:02:51.000Yeah, she spent months going after this story, and she can't take a couple hours of her day to miss one tiny show to go and actually confront these people in person, like she wants to do, like she says she's going to do.
01:03:02.000I'm sure that they'd allow her to co-stream it, you know, stream to her people as well as theirs.
01:03:07.000And look, she's made enough allusions to accusations that this should be the opportunity for her to, you know, go and clear all this up and, you know, find the bad guys or point at the bad guys.
01:03:20.000I think that this kind of speaks to the fact that it is kind of just a bunch of like, you know, isn't this strange?
01:03:36.000And that was kind of the point that Turning Point made when they were like, she keeps abandoning key points of this investigation and then never coming back to it.
01:04:11.000They're asking us to give our, it's the weirdest thing ever that all of a sudden the corporate press is like, we're interested in this rift.
01:05:21.000This is the issue I take with this stupid debate about like Tucker and Nick and these TradCon people who are like, I don't want to work with Nick.
01:06:20.000How much time did you have to spend watching the Candace shows to like, because the thing is, is like with all of this type of drama, like once you can miss one day and you're completely lost about anything that's going on because there's so much lore behind all of this stuff.
01:06:34.000Like I immediately disengage because I don't want to go back through and listen to 8,000, look through 8,000 threads of people arguing about this stuff.
01:06:57.000I think there's a reason why Steven Crowder has maintained such strong viewership while many others have faltered.
01:07:04.000And I think it's because he generally does his thing, believes in himself, focuses on his message and mission, stays true.
01:07:13.000But there are a lot of people who are substantially more successful or who, you know, come and go, like Candace being a really great example of a meteoric rise through, I don't know, like unscrupulous manipulation.
01:07:27.000If you are going to, it's a hard thing to do.
01:07:31.000Politicians, you're never going to get elected if you're actually telling people the truth.
01:07:36.000Imagine a politician running for Congress being like, guys, Social Security will be insolvent by 2034, and we don't have the population size to actually pay into it to keep it at current levels.
01:07:47.000That means that only what goes into it will come out.
01:07:55.000However, there are a couple of solutions.
01:07:57.000Because the younger generation isn't large enough to pay the taxes on this, we could increase taxes on Gen Z, and that will be able, that'll make it so that we can increase the payouts, or we can bring in as many migrants as possible in whatever way we can so that we can bring in more working individuals into the tax base.
01:08:36.000So what I love about Candace's show is, you know, the easiest example is that guy, Wolves in Finance, where he was like, why are they giving money to a parking lot?
01:08:45.000And it's like, man, if you're reading comprehension is third grade, you fall for this stuff.
01:08:52.000Again, like I was, I looked through one thread last night about the Candace stuff, and it was somebody saying, like, I think they want to get her in the studio so they can scope out her security.
01:09:23.000But, you know, if your show is about drama and you need some drama, then, you know, she'll take what she can get.
01:09:30.000But when we were talking about her making $10 million per year on this show, someone took that clip, cut out the part where I explicitly stated she has a large audience because, you know, it's appealing to a wider base and that she has a lot of female viewers.
01:09:46.000They cut that out, lied and claimed we said that she was botting her audience and it was all fake.
01:10:24.000She had me on her show today showing the clip, which gives us a tremendous opportunity that if we played the same game as her, I could leak text messages, oh, the things I've heard about Candace Owens.
01:10:35.000But my view of her is largely that she's unscrupulous and willing to manipulate intentionally for money.
01:10:42.000Based on the messages I've seen from her, I could accuse her of killing Charlie Kirk.
01:10:47.000The messages that I've seen of Candace could easily be misconstrued to say that she had the biggest reason to murder Charlie because he ousted her from Turning Point.
01:10:57.000And she wants revenge, but she didn't know how to go up against Charlie.
01:11:10.000And now she wants to burn down Turning Point because she's, what do they call it? Second wife syndrome.
01:11:15.000She's the jilted lover who is friend zoned, who is Charlie Kirk's wingman, who had that romantic text exchange with him that she was showing off.
01:11:23.000And now she wants to burn everything down in revenge.
01:11:29.000There have been people who have made the joke that you could easily take statements she's made and insinuate she had Charlie murdered and statements from people at Turning Point about how they feared Candace and what she was going to do.
01:12:00.000But there are people at Turning Point expressing fear over what Candace would do to them if they actually ever got into a drama bit with her over her being ousted.
01:12:11.000And so they needed to keep her close, but not too far.
01:12:14.000Some of these emails and these statements, you could easily be like, this proves Candace was trying to kill Charlie the whole time because it's all vague murder mystery garbage.
01:12:22.000The question is, who's really going to believe it?
01:12:52.000And if you are unscrupulous and your biggest concern is how many live viewers you have, then you will be Candace Owens and you will brag about it.
01:13:05.000But, you know, that's why I look at the success she has, why I called it demoralizing, you know, two or three weeks ago, because we are trying to build a coalition to save this country.
01:13:16.000She's trying to build a coalition so she can make money and sell ads.
01:13:20.000And she's effectively destroying the political coalition that wants to see a victory to stave off this crazy immigration crisis, to help Gen Z and the working class buy homes and bring prices down.
01:13:33.000Her thing is just vagary after vagary, distraction, distraction, distraction, and burn down the one organization that actually unified various political factions to help Donald Trump win the election.
01:13:45.000Maybe she's born with the Democrats the whole time.
01:13:47.000That's why her lawyers work with the feds.
01:13:49.000Well, I mean, she was a Democrat before, so.
01:13:52.000I'm starting to think that she has lost all sensitivity to what is ethical at this point to promote on her show because all the conspiracy theories that she's pulling out, maybe there's some validity, a fraction of validities to something that she has said at some point.
01:14:07.000But now she's drowning everything in so many allegations, accusations that just do not make any sense whatsoever.
01:14:14.000So there's nothing that is believable anymore anymore.
01:14:17.000And I don't even know if she understands the kind of impact that she's having.
01:14:22.000And I think maybe you think that she's fully aware of it and that she knows exactly what she's doing.
01:14:28.000I do think that she's very smart for sure.
01:14:30.000Otherwise, she wouldn't have this great show, great in the sense that she has a lot of views, obviously.
01:14:36.000But at the same time, I think she has become completely insensitive to how people are perceiving her.
01:14:42.000I think she just thinks that she's just, yeah, she is the ideal, the queen behind what she's promoting.
01:14:50.000And she doesn't quite take in what kind of impact it has on her views, but also what kind of impact it has on Charlie and the family and the legacy that he left behind, because I don't think that Charlie would have wanted any of this.
01:16:00.000She's accused his wife of having knowledge of these events.
01:16:04.000And then she comes out and says, I never said that.
01:16:06.000Not in the literal sense, but there's literally no other logical conclusion to what you're saying.
01:16:11.000So when I look at Colvet and Bowyer and Blake and Erica and the people who work at Turning Point, and I say, you know, maybe they're not handling things properly and they don't know what to do with Charlie was doing.
01:16:27.000There's fears that Turning Point can't make it without Charlie.
01:16:29.000All of that is them trying to make Turning Point survive.
01:16:33.000Candace is advocating you abandon Turning Point USA.
01:16:38.000It's kind of remarkable to see, but let's just do the logic here.
01:17:26.000They want to see Turning Point go belly up because they're nihilists.
01:17:30.000I'm not saying literally everybody who watches her, but in what reality does it make sense that Charlie would want Candace to burn Turning Point to the ground?
01:18:14.000And if Turning Point USA does not want Timcast IRL, disaffected urban liberals on its stage prime time on Friday and instead wants to book four conservatives wearing suits to talk about conservative values.
01:18:29.000It is their prerogative, but the outcome is the only thing that matters.
01:19:02.000If Candace Owens' actions and requests are to pull the donations from Turning Point and malign the people involved with it so that no one wants to be involved, the question then becomes, what will Turning Point be a year from now?
01:19:16.000And if Candace's actions say anything and she succeeds, Turning Point will have been destroyed.
01:19:58.000That's the world they want to live in.
01:20:00.000So while I can say Candace Owens was in love with Charlie Kirk, and this is based on me watching her show, the romance drama, the thing she mentioned about choosing his clothes and all the stuff and how she loved him and all of that stuff.
01:20:37.000When I see what Candace is doing, I see rejection, jealousy, anger.
01:20:43.000And now that Charlie's gone, she wants revenge.
01:20:46.000I don't understand why else you dedicate three months to vagaries with the only purpose is stop supporting Turning Point USA.
01:20:56.000The excuse they want to give, and I love this, is that the only reason I'm criticizing Candace is because I'm trying to get back in the good graces of Turning Point USA.
01:21:04.000I'm the one who made the video saying I'm not going.
01:21:07.000They invited me back and I said, no, I don't want to go.
01:22:00.000Or the people who believe in what she says when she lies and burns down everything Charlie stood for?
01:22:06.000Why would I want to be involved in that?
01:22:08.000Bro, I'd much rather live in a van down by the river.
01:22:13.000There's a reason why this has never been the biggest podcast in the world, why I don't take the political route and pursue it the way most of these people do, why we don't have PR crafting messages or writing scripts for me.
01:22:25.000And there's a reason why there's been periods where we've burned tons of subscribers, standing up for people that many people hated.
01:22:32.000Because I've always just said what I thought and I'm not playing any stupid PR games.
01:22:37.000And I've always said, if that means people don't follow me, I appreciate you following me as long as you did.
01:22:41.000I'm going to go live in a van down by the river with a smile on my face.
01:22:45.000This is what the political space is turning into.
01:22:47.000We had a good run for the past seven or eight years where a coalition formed and people said we agree on these things and we have to stop the woke psychopathy.
01:22:56.000Candace now represents psychopathic grifter content and cultism more than anything else we've seen on the left.
01:23:03.000And she is the biggest threat to the coalition, the right and our victories that we're trying to attain in 2026 and 2028.
01:23:25.000The Republicans have an opportunity to buck the historic trend and win the midterms when they already control the House, the Senate, and the executive branch.
01:23:34.000What's the biggest threat to our potential victory?
01:23:44.000If that's the direction we're really going to go in the next year or so, I don't see how we win if the right is composed of two different political worldviews.
01:23:54.000This means you're going to have the Democrat cultists, the MAGA right, and the Candace right or whatever you want to call it.
01:24:02.000And Democrats will get the edge and win.
01:24:05.000I mean, I think that the Democrats are going to win anyways, like regardless of this kind of stuff.
01:24:10.000I think that all signs are indicating that, unless there's some midterms, yeah.
01:24:15.000Because, I mean, all signs are indicating that, and I don't see any significant uptick in the economy on the horizon.
01:24:21.000There's a time where, you know, there's a lot of people that say, you know, it's bad that the Republicans have always been, you know, graph go up.
01:24:32.000But if the graph isn't going up, if people don't feel like their money is able, you know, can pay for groceries, they can't pay their bills, people are definitely going to vote for the other team.
01:24:45.000Well, I mean, they'll make sure that the people in power lose, whether that means they don't go out and support them or they go out and they actually vote against them.
01:24:55.000Gas prices are down, and that has an effect on the economy.
01:24:59.000But the prices overall, like they haven't gone down.
01:25:03.000And the fact that Donald Trump is doing the same thing that Joe Biden was doing and saying, no, you're wrong about what you're experiencing at the grocery store.
01:25:11.000You're wrong about what you're experiencing when you're trying to pay your bills and stuff.
01:25:17.000So this kind of stuff, I think it's bad for the coalition.
01:25:20.000I think that it's bad for whatever you want to call the MAGA coalition.
01:25:24.000But I think at the end of the day, this stuff is still a distraction.
01:25:28.000And I think part of the reason why this stuff is going on is because there isn't actual big, tangible victories that people can actually talk about.
01:25:37.000So they're just, people are blackpilling.
01:25:38.000They're saying things aren't getting done.
01:25:40.000And then you end up with this kind of stuff getting oxygen.
01:25:44.000Well, I mean, Candace has created a murder mystery drama that seeks to destroy Turning Point, which was pivotal in Trump's victory in 2024.
01:25:54.000So this is the biggest threat that the right faces in actually stopping the communist rise on the left.
01:26:00.000Saying that Candace herself is the biggest threat right now, I think is giving her way too much power.
01:26:10.000But what she's doing is she's creating a massive bubble and it's going to pop because what she's doing is not sustainable.
01:26:15.000At some point, all the lies are going to just blow up and everybody's going to find out that they have been wasting a bunch of time on fairy tales.
01:26:24.000And I, yeah, right now it looks pretty bad.
01:26:26.000But I think now even Nick Fuentes is calling her out.
01:26:30.000I mean, I know that he's never been a big fan of her, but it's crucial that we're seeing this kind of divide right now because he's calling her out on something that's very valid.
01:26:38.000He's calling out the hypocrisy and that she has gaps in her logic.
01:26:46.000And at some point, we've got to get back to reasonable discussions because this is a distraction.
01:26:51.000These are fairy tales, and fairy tales are very intriguing to a lot of people, but they will blow up at some point.
01:26:57.000Because as soon as you have to face the facts, right now we're all very comfortable, so we don't have to face the facts.
01:27:03.000So it's nice to get comfortable with a fairy tale, but this is not sustainable.
01:27:07.000And so I do have to say, I gotta have to give Nick Fuentes a lot of credit for how he handled the death of Charlie Kirk.
01:27:17.000Not just this, but I saw how he reacted, and he was genuinely grieving, even though he admitted that he didn't like Charlie Kirk while he was alive and he never had a good relationship with him.
01:27:30.000They were basically enemies in a way, at least from a political perspective, but they were not enemies as people.
01:27:37.000And he respected Charlie for what he was doing.
01:27:40.000And he didn't fabricate any conspiracy theories around Tony Paul J.S.
01:28:06.000The hero that we need, not the one we deserve.
01:28:08.000And so what's happening now is Nick Fuentes, Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, James Lindsay are all finding themselves standing side by side and criticizing Candace Owens.
01:28:19.000She has become the Sauron of the army against the armies of Middle Earth.
01:28:25.000And all of the weirdest political factions are now agreeing with each other because Candace is crazy.
01:28:31.000Even the right and the woke right can come to that.
01:28:35.000It's no coincidence that this Nick tweets this after he did a two-and-hour, two and a half hour conversation with Steven Crowder to figure out their differences and how they can come together.
01:28:46.000You know, I think that in the long run, Nick's audience and the message that Nick has, especially if he's moderating his message, that's something that young people are going to actually pay attention to.
01:29:00.000And it speaks to things that young people actually care about.
01:29:03.000I think that the stuff that Candace is talking about, I think that it is detrimental to the overall right.
01:29:09.000And I think that it's basically just, you know, the view.
01:29:13.000It's just like Tim says, it's just murder mystery stuff.
01:29:30.000I do think she's going to get vaporized.
01:29:32.000Like to your points, Naomi, I think the Macron thing is apocalyptic for her.
01:29:39.000And it's not because she's right or wrong.
01:29:41.000It's because France is going through the motions, but you have a nation state at the highest level trying to shut down Candace Owens.
01:29:50.000Donald Trump is not going to sacrifice foreign policy for Candace Owens.
01:29:55.000So when France says we want this taken care of, I'd be willing to bet people in the State Department are like, file your lawsuit, we'll make sure you win.
01:30:03.000And she's going to get summary judgment.
01:30:05.000And it's going to be, they're going to Alex Jones her.
01:30:09.000They're going to be like, we're taking your stuff.
01:30:20.000So, it makes no sense that she would intentionally expose herself to liability in this way with Bridget McCrone.
01:30:26.000You'll notice that she makes a lot of statements about Turning Point that are relatively vague so that she doesn't expose herself to defamation liability.
01:30:33.000Like when she said, quote, well, I shouldn't quote it, but she said, I'm paraphrasing something to the effect of, I can say with full confidence that I believe.
01:31:52.000So if any Qatari, Middle Eastern individual, royalty or otherwise, believes this is a trans person in a homosexual relationship coming to their country, it's going to present diplomatic problems for France.
01:32:06.000And Candace is pumping that stuff out.
01:33:11.000Like, what conclusions can we come to?
01:33:14.000If we're thinking about an individual who is calculating and intelligent, why would they make a move knowing they'll be sued into oblivion?
01:33:21.000I think maybe she would have a backer that even if she loses all the money, they will compensate her money.
01:33:27.000What is the end goal of calling Bridget Macron a man?
01:33:40.000Maybe all the other conspiracy theories were already occupied by some group or influencer, and so she had to pick something that was still free.
01:33:53.000She has recently come out and told people to get refunds on their donations to Turning Point USA, which could literally end the organization very quickly if a large enough amount of people do it.
01:34:54.000Because perhaps she's just doing what she's told.
01:34:57.000She's just saying what she's told to say.
01:35:00.000And that's why she's not concerned about being sued into oblivion because she is putting up the message that she is told to put out.
01:35:05.000And that's why, despite claiming if you criticize Israel, you'll be banned, YouTube props her up.
01:35:11.000So let's put all these ingredients together and ask those that are faithful viewers of Candace Owens.
01:35:16.000She did something that made no sense that was a clear defamation slam dunk that'll get her company destroyed and sued into oblivion.
01:35:24.000She's advocating the destruction of Turning Point, telling people to pull their money out.
01:35:28.000Her lawyers operate out of the same building as federal agents, DEA, FBI, Secret Service, her own admission, and YouTube props her up the whole time.
01:38:17.000On her show, she said she got an email that said these Egyptian planes, I think it was the Egyptian planes, had federal vehicles going from the airport to this building at a certain address in Delaware.
01:38:25.000And then when she said the address in Delaware and then said, look, the feds operate out of there, some Democrats were like, that's actually her address.
01:38:33.000Then a journalist came out and said, no, no, guys, the feds actually do work there.
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01:42:02.000This person walked like a female and bent over at the hips to drop something down.
01:42:08.000When they were like, it's this guy, I'm like, really?
01:42:11.000I listened to your segment today, and I was working, cleaning up, getting ready for the winter time, and I was doing a lot of bending over.
01:42:15.000So I was practicing and it's really, I either put my leg up as I'm going down to balance my body and or I have one foot in front of the other to balance my body.
01:42:25.000But standing legs straight and kind of bending over and pick stuff up, it feels weird.
01:42:38.000If you are a woman, you will have no problem.
01:42:40.000This is one of those viral TikTok challenges they do all the time where it's like a man and woman will stand against a wall and then try and bend down to pick something up.
01:42:46.000Or they do one where it's like pick up a chair.
01:42:49.000And the men and women will lean on a chair and then the women will just go right up with it and the men can't stand up.
01:43:56.000I watched a video on Instagram where police showed up some woman's house and they confiscated her daughter's phone for saying a naughty word or something like this.
01:44:08.000There's a video going viral right now of like a dude in Calgary getting arrested for not apologizing about his faith or something like this.
01:44:27.000So there's a much better connection, especially on social media between them.
01:44:33.000Now we're starting to see more from Germany too, but it's like for the past years there has been this silent tyranny in Germany.
01:44:39.000And the people of Germany, they are more obedient, more compliant, and they like to stay in line and not snitch on each other or at least not snitch on the government.
01:44:48.000They like to snitch on each other, unfortunately, to the government.
01:44:50.000But they don't like to go against the grain and violate the establishment narrative.
01:44:55.000And especially doing that outside of the German bubble is very much looked down upon.
01:45:01.000When I first started doing more international stuff and speaking English, the number one comment that I got was in Germany, you got to speak German.
01:45:10.000And yeah, and now they are starting to appreciate it more because it's becoming increasingly useful and necessary for us to build this bridge between Germany or rather Europe and America to actually understand that it's an issue of Western society and we the people versus some form of globalism that we actually got to defeat.
01:45:28.000And since Germany is the biggest, has the biggest impact in the European Union, that we got to take down the European Union.
01:45:34.000And I personally think, because why is it so bad in the UK now, even though they had the Brexit, I think the Brexit was hijacked.
01:46:33.000The only way that I could comfortably come back to Germany is if the AFD actually makes it into the government.
01:46:38.000Otherwise, the bureaucracy, I think, is being severely underestimated in Germany because there are so many ways that the government can get you.
01:46:46.000They're trying to shut down the most popular party, and I think that's a huge issue.
01:46:50.000So unless the AFD actually makes it into the government, they will find so many loopholes to get you as an individual, and especially if you're a threat to the government, that it's just currently, sadly, I love Germany so much, especially during the Christmas season, but it's impossible for me to return right now.
01:47:07.000I would love for us to have gun rights in Germany, but that's not going to happen anytime soon.
01:47:13.000And also, you have to consider that if we were able to carry guns in Germany, the first and probably the only ones who would feel comfortable carrying guns would be all the Islamists that we imported.
01:47:23.000I think that would be an issue because Germans are just not used to it.
01:47:26.000Germans don't like to think about the idea of just trying something completely new and trying guns because we're still a bit afraid of the whole idea.
01:47:34.000So our society would have to get used to it eventually.
01:47:38.000And I am totally in favor of gun rights, but that has to be a long-term issue.
01:47:42.000And right now, we have so many illegals in the country that are here as Germans.
01:47:48.000The number one birthday in Germany is January 1st.
01:47:52.000And that's just because a lot of illegals or like people who came across the borders are registered as having their birthdays on January 1st.
01:48:01.000So yeah, it's a whole, it's a very bad system.
01:48:03.000The entire system is just very infected with corruption.
01:48:07.000And therefore, we need to change the entire system from scratch.
01:48:11.000I was under the impression that the AFD had made, that the German government had made the AFD illegal to some degree.
01:48:18.000There are instances where they have already banned, for example, candidates for mayor positions in one of the largest cities in Germany, for example.
01:48:27.000And they have made the AFD a far-right extremist party, which just gives German intelligence the authority to investigate them, to put them under surveillance, to raid their houses whenever they want to.
01:48:40.000I have a friend from the AFD who has a big impact because he's in the European Parliament.
01:48:45.000And they just raided his house for, I think, the 28th time.
01:48:50.000Yeah, he told me that on the phone recently.
01:48:51.000And I said, wait, didn't you say 22nd time recently?
01:48:55.000And he said, yeah, but that was four weeks ago.
01:49:00.000Pinochet says, the prosecutor also prosecuted the Proud Boys.
01:49:19.000I squared says, how will the government cater to young people when they seem not to be pleased with anything that even Trump does, Blackpill, not grateful and want instant gratification?
01:49:29.000American Dream Does Not Fall From Trees?
01:50:42.000Evan Freud says, perhaps Candace is doing what Lelouch from Code Geas did and pitting the world against him, make himself the enemy of mankind and have her fall to unite the world right in this case.
01:51:41.000I still think it's just all about the old trolliness that Nick used to do, the old, you know, used to say things just to throw bombs and stuff.
01:51:48.000I think that that's the thing that people find most distasteful about Nick.
01:51:51.000And that's, I honestly think, I think that that's why he's moderating his tone with a lot of stuff.
01:51:56.000Jaded2000 says, dude, I love you and Candace both.
01:52:43.000It's sad because he knows there's no more content.
01:52:45.000But he goes, to be honest, he's like, I haven't really watched a lot of political stuff lately because it's the same thing every single day.
01:52:53.000With Candace, it's a new murder mystery, you know, mystery box every single day, something new to get confused about without any real answers.
01:54:08.000You know, I like him, but there are a lot of cowards on the right who are just too scared to say anything about all the BS that's going on.
01:54:13.000And then, you know, then you've got Trump sycophants.
01:55:20.000So let me let me let me let me point something out.
01:55:23.000Charlie Kirk and Turning Point were pivotal in the election of the Republican Party in the House, the Senate, and Donald Trump.
01:55:30.000Why is Candace working for the deep state?
01:55:33.000Like, I'm not going to play stupid games and be like, oh, the feds and all this stuff.
01:55:36.000No, like no one is helping the deep state more than Candace Owens right now.
01:55:41.000Nobody is more damaging to Charlie's legacy than Candace Owens right now.
01:55:44.000And if we were to act only upon actions and not words, and you had to, and someone asked you, who do you think hated Charlie Kirk the most?
01:56:15.000Yeah, and I find it very disingenuous that she was Candace was the one who, in the beginning of her starting to attack Turning Point USA, said, I will stop immediately as soon as Erica Kerr comes out and tells me to stop.
01:56:28.000So she was putting herself on the side of Erica Kirk.
01:56:31.000And I thought that was very pretentious because, yeah, Erica Kirk is not saying anything because she's grieving and she has a lot to deal with.
01:56:38.000Why would she come out and say, I hate Candace Owens?
01:56:42.000She just probably just doesn't want to be involved with the drama right now, understandably.
01:56:46.000So I just think that's very disrespectful to pretend like she's the only one who can stand up for Erica Kerk and like she's best friends with Erica Kirk, which I don't think is the case.
01:56:53.000And if, well, clearly, Charlie Kirk had had his criticisms of Netanyahu, and I totally understand that kind of perspective.
01:57:05.000But at the same time, he also stood firmly behind Turning Point USA.
01:57:09.000And if that was not the case, then he would have made it known to the public.
01:57:13.000So now to try to destroy Turning Point USA, if Charlie Kirk was still alive right now, he would still be running Turning Point USA.
01:57:20.000So if Candace was trying to take down Turning Point USA now, if Charlie was still alive, then it would be completely against what he's promoting.
01:57:29.000Her claiming that they killed him, I just don't see it.
01:57:34.000We have not seen any evidence from her.
01:57:36.000No, if I was a normie off the streets and I just came into the situation to listen and hear what's going on, what she's saying and what's going on in the situation, like, why does this lady hate this company?
01:57:52.000If you didn't know any of the backstory, you would come across as being like, wow, she really hates these people, huh?
01:57:58.000And if Erica Kuck secretly agreed with Candice Owens and she just couldn't say anything in fear of her life or whatever, then I don't think she would continue to run Turning Point USA, but she has been promoting Turning Point USA.
01:59:27.000Naomi, vas is dein Lieblingstadt in Deutscheland, Wast is Din Lieblings Schloss, mein Lieblingstadt ist Heidelberg und mein Lieblingschloss is Noschwanstein.
01:59:45.000We here in America are glad to have you here, Naomi.
02:01:37.000German is the most aggressive language.
02:01:39.000I see all these memes on Instagram, for example, where you have a bunch of words where they show you what these words are spelled as and how you say them in different languages.
02:01:48.000And then the last one is always German.
02:03:29.000You see that photo spread of like all the famous podcasters for the Hollywood Reporter and Ben Shapiro is there and he's kind of sitting off to the side.
02:03:36.000He's like the other people didn't want to like take advantage of him.
02:04:08.000The election happened and we got very political.
02:04:11.000Then over the next year, we drifted a little bit away from politics and did more, it was like often culture war headlines and things like that.
02:04:17.000But then politics became more and more pronounced.
02:04:21.000Everything became hyper, hyper political.
02:04:23.000And then over the last year, we've had terror attacks.
02:04:26.000So everything has just gotten to the apex of political, and it's drifted the core audience of this show into a heavier political space.
02:04:32.000Even though it didn't really start out that way, it turned into it.
02:04:36.000And I think we're drifting back away from it right now, and we probably need to, but then you've got AI market saturation and everything's kind of breaking up.
02:04:43.000So I don't know what's going to happen.
02:08:50.000They started investigating me in 2019, and I got a whole intelligence report where they told me that my name is in the intelligence database at least 1,000 times.
02:09:01.000And then an ex-Army intelligence guy from America messaged me just a few months ago on X and told me that he was stationed in Germany between 2023 and 2024.
02:09:11.000And he saw my name all over the German intelligence database.
02:09:14.000And he told me they have been intercepting your communications, WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal.
02:09:35.000During that time, I was deathly ill, so I was not even political or anything.
02:09:38.000So they actually were intercepting my communications for years, even when I was not politically relevant at all.
02:09:44.000And he also informed me that this is because they actually reached out to American intelligence, apparently under the Biden administration, because they wanted to know what kinds of connections I had to American companies and American individuals who supported the MAGA movement.
02:10:47.000There's so many things that happen like that.
02:10:49.000Like I was reading a comment the other day that said Brett only talks about, only gets to talk about the stuff that he likes.
02:10:56.000Like the way this guy phrased his statement about something in the comment made perfect sense to me as if he was criticizing me, but he's actually criticizing Mary.
02:11:19.000And it's funny because people call me blackpilled for a long time, but I was never really to this point where now I'm like, dude, I was playing poker and this guy told me Candace is right about everything.
02:11:34.000Like I said, somebody yesterday was talking about turning point assassins and they were trying to get her in the studio so they could observe her security.
02:11:41.000And I'm just like, I'm checked out, bro.
02:12:07.000Like people just want to hear these stories told.
02:12:10.000I think that there's a good amount of distance that comes when you watch this stuff on YouTube or Rumble, that you stop perceiving it as current events and things that are actually happening in the world.
02:12:20.000And it starts becoming like a telenovela.
02:12:23.000My view of Democrats is that they are fully cognizant of everything we're talking about, but their worldview is, I mean, this is not even, this is a fact.
02:13:17.000They don't want their lives to get better.
02:13:20.000They want to hear more murder mystery stuff.
02:13:22.000So then the question is, if she can easily undermine the political message, and perhaps you're right now me, she's not the biggest issue, but strong enough if she can create this issue where Megan Kelly is now at odds with Ben Shapiro and she's just one component of it.
02:13:40.000But if it's that easy to undermine and it's so difficult to build, it's really demoralizing.
02:13:47.000It's a lot easier to make money doing other shit.
02:13:51.000One of the most annoying things was that during the height of like the Trump administration and the culture war, people were saying, Tim Poole's only saying these things so he can make money.
02:14:46.000I'd be better off owning a bunch of burger joints than, you know, I'd be better off owning a ship of a fleet of fishing vessels where I could be a fisherman instead of meddling in the politics of man.
02:15:28.000I spoke to him about it, and he was very blackpilled on the death of Charlie Kirk, which is why it's at least beautiful to see that he's reuniting with President Trump.
02:15:38.000But at the same time, he said that he saw so much potential in turning point USA.
02:15:44.000And if there was to be another movement that would be formed, I asked him who could be the best leader for this.
02:15:49.000And he said Charlie Kirk, but they killed him.
02:16:25.000Today, there's a polling, a leftist polling account on X, and he was swearing up and down that it wasn't a leftist that killed Charlie Kirk.
02:16:36.000And I think that that might be a fairly common opinion that the person that killed Charlie Kirk was not a leftist.
02:16:43.000The second anything comes out, they start poisoning the well immediately.
02:16:46.000That's why all the Jimmy Kimmel stuff happened.
02:16:49.000Why you use the bullshit weasel words that he used during his monologue to talk about the MAGA gang spent the whole weekend trying to pretend like the guy who killed Charlie Kirk wasn't one of them or whatever the hell he was saying.
02:17:02.000But the whole point of it was to make people think that what was happening wasn't what happened.
02:17:09.000Every now and then on Instagram, I see these types of conspiracy theory videos, sometimes also crediting Candace Owens about turning point USA, killing Charlie.
02:17:18.000And in the majority of cases, they are leftists.
02:17:23.000This is a very popular conspiracy theory on the left.
02:17:26.000And then I think, wait, I thought we were the conspiracy theorists allegedly years ago, and now they are echoing what Candice Owens is saying.
02:17:56.000And it literally caused, it's caused a massive breakdown in race relations in the United States.
02:18:02.000I think in conjunction with the left focusing on race so much.
02:18:07.000But it's also caused the absolute breakdown of any political dialogue.
02:18:15.000You know, if people think, oh, black people are actually being hunted, you know, that justifies all of the riots that happened in 2020.
02:18:23.000It's like when you hear them ask, like, they say, how many unarmed black men do you think were shot and killed by a police officer last year?