Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - J6 Pipe Bomb Suspect ARRESTED, Worked With BLM, Aided Illegal Immigrants | Timcast IRL

00:02:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, for the past five years, a darkness has loomed over this country.

00:02:07.000 After January 6th, this country was facing tumult, and I was scared.

00:02:15.000 Someone had planted pipe bombs, the DNC and the RNC, and we didn't know who.

00:02:21.000 We didn't know who.

00:02:23.000 And this loomed over us every single day.

00:02:27.000 You know, just the other day, I was talking to my wife, and she was asking me, Are they ever going to find him?

00:02:34.000 And I said, honey, I just don't know.

00:02:37.000 I don't know.

00:02:39.000 And it had me scared for the future of my children and yours, to be honest, because I love you and I care about you.

00:02:46.000 But this is the fear that has taken over this country in the past several years.

00:02:51.000 Today, thanks to the hard and diligent work of my good friend, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, good friends, we got him.

00:03:04.000 We got him!

00:03:05.000 They arrested the J6 pipe bomber, and now we can sleep easy. 0.97

00:03:09.000 I saw that news and I said to my wife, honey, it's gonna be okay.

00:03:13.000 And that's when I realized we're going places.

00:03:17.000 This country was coming back, baby.

00:03:19.000 A DOJ that was taking these problems seriously.

00:03:22.000 Criminals would no longer go free.

00:03:24.000 And then Pete Hegseth blew up another narco boat, and we cracked the champagne. 0.98

00:03:29.000 I hope you're all deeply entertained.

00:03:31.000 Apparently, this guy that they've arrested, everyone's calling Urkel because he looks like Steve Urkel, which no one saw this one coming.

00:03:39.000 There were reports that came out through the Blaise that the individual may be this Capitol Police woman, but, but she had an alibi.

00:03:48.000 Someone recorded a video of her playing with puppies, which, of course, proves everything.

00:03:52.000 Although, to be honest, there are now several people saying, yeah, no way this guy's really the person.

00:03:58.000 And they think this is all a hoax.

00:04:00.000 I don't know.

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00:04:08.000 So, my friends, welcome to Tim Cast IRL.

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00:06:13.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Naomi Seibt.

00:06:17.000 Hi.

00:06:18.000 I probably pronounced having me.

00:06:19.000 What do you do?

00:06:19.000 Oh, who are you?

00:06:20.000 So I'm the first German asylum seeker under President Trump because I have been under intelligence surveillance for the past years since probably 2019 around.

00:06:20.000 Yeah.

00:06:28.000 So when I was just 19 years old, I had no idea I was such a threat to the German government.

00:06:32.000 They recognized this way earlier than me.

00:06:35.000 And I found out just this year that they had actually been intercepting my communications, WhatsApp, signal, telegram, everything.

00:06:42.000 I found out about this from an American ex-Army intelligence guy who basically became my whistleblower.

00:06:49.000 And he said that they actually contacted American intelligence to get access to all these secrets that I had, which was just private communications with my families.

00:06:58.000 And it's ironic because they had so much, so many chances to find something damning on me, but apparently they couldn't find anything because they still had to make up lies about me.

00:07:07.000 They've been trying to defame me in the media.

00:07:09.000 They've been trying to put me in jail for posts that I made on X.

00:07:14.000 I am currently being investigated for a post that I made.

00:07:16.000 Yes.

00:07:17.000 Now I'm applying for asylum to finally break free from this tyranny in Germany because I am in support of the currently democratically most popular party in Germany, the AFT Party, which is essentially just a MAGA equivalent in Germany. 0.69

00:07:30.000 And our government wants to try to shut them down, even though they are the most popular party.

00:07:34.000 So who's really the threat to democracy in Germany?

00:07:38.000 And I'm very excited to be here because I've been a fan of this show since I started my own social media thing very small in Germany in like 2019 or earlier.

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:47.000 Well, it's great, Dave.

00:07:48.000 Can you do me a favor real quick?

00:07:49.000 Can you just repeat these words? 0.99

00:07:50.000 Tim, they're trying to kill you. 0.94

00:07:52.000 Can you say that? 1.00

00:07:53.000 Tim, they're trying to kill you. 0.99

00:07:55.000 Oh my God.

00:07:56.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I have just been informed by a very credible source that the German government has actually acted upon a plot against my life.

00:08:07.000 I am now informing the White House and the federal government that they are trying to kill me, and I may die.

00:08:13.000 But this weekend, the show is going to be off the air.

00:08:19.000 And as an update, I will be informing the FBI of this very credible plot against me.

00:08:25.000 All of that is technically true, you know.

00:08:28.000 So anyway, how are you doing, Raymond?

00:08:30.000 I am excellent, Tim.

00:08:30.000 That opening today was I'm so emotional.

00:08:33.000 I'm so glad that your family and all of our futures are safe because they cut the J6 bomber. 0.99

00:08:37.000 But I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

00:08:39.000 I'm the resident of Blue Collier here, United States Marine Corps veteran.

00:08:42.000 Mr. Naomi, look forward to talking with you here.

00:08:44.000 Mr. Brett.

00:08:45.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:08:46.000 My wife was also just asking me when they were going to catch the J6 bomber.

00:08:50.000 So it's crazy that happened.

00:08:51.000 Guys, one's wife does. 1.00

00:08:53.000 It's once a week.

00:08:54.000 She checks online for news updates.

00:08:57.000 And when they don't get them, she comes to me and complains because she's scared.

00:09:00.000 That's what happens.

00:09:01.000 Guys, Brett here.

00:09:02.000 Pop culture crisis.

00:09:03.000 Normally, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, which is noon Pacific.

00:09:07.000 We will be back again live starting next week.

00:09:09.000 She'll join us. 0.73

00:09:10.000 But Phil, how are you doing?

00:09:11.000 Hello, everybody.

00:09:12.000 My name is Phil LeBonte.

00:09:13.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:09:14.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:09:16.000 Let's get into it.

00:09:17.000 Here's the story from Mediaites Revealed.

00:09:20.000 The first pictures emerge of the DNC and RNC pipe bomb suspect.

00:09:25.000 And wait, what?

00:09:27.000 When I first saw this photo, I said, y'all trolling.

00:09:30.000 I think it was Jessica and the other.

00:09:31.000 No, no, who was it?

00:09:32.000 Was it, I think it was Jessica?

00:09:34.000 She pulled it up. 0.89

00:09:35.000 And they were like, oh, yeah, the D.C. pipe bomber was a black dude.

00:09:38.000 And I was like, oh, wow, I didn't see that one. 0.64

00:09:39.000 You know, we all thought it was that white woman.

00:09:41.000 And then when they posted the picture, I was like, very funny, guys.

00:09:44.000 You're trolling.

00:09:46.000 No, that's actually what the guy looks like.

00:09:49.000 And his name is Brian Cole.

00:09:50.000 He's apparently a 30-year-old.

00:09:52.000 He was arrested.

00:09:52.000 He's the suspect.

00:09:53.000 I don't know what evidence they have just yet.

00:09:55.000 According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, he's being charged with, quote, transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce with the intent to kill, injure, or intimidate any individual or unlawfully to damage or destroy any building, vehicle, or other real or personal property, and with attempted malicious destruction by means of fire and explosive materials.

00:10:13.000 Wow.

00:10:14.000 We have the press release here from the DOJ.

00:10:18.000 They say Brian J. Cole Jr. of Woodbridge, Virginia, was arrested this morning and charged with for transporting and planting two improvised explosive devices on January 5th, 2021 at the headquarters of both the Republican National Committee and the Democratic National Committee in Washington, D.C.

00:10:35.000 They say the well-being of society rests on our ability of law enforcement to safeguard our citizens, et cetera, et cetera.

00:10:40.000 Well, here's what's interesting.

00:10:41.000 This guy ran a bail bonds company to free illegal immigrants, sued the Trump DHS, and worked with a Black Lives Matter lawyer.

00:10:50.000 Sounds like this was an anti-Trumper lefty who was angry at Donald Trump.

00:10:56.000 I don't understand what the motivation is for planting these pipe bombs.

00:10:59.000 However, but if you were anti-Trump and you were trying to, I don't know, frame him and his supporters, perhaps that's the motivation.

00:11:08.000 I mean, it's, I don't know.

00:11:11.000 We'll see how this actually pans out.

00:11:14.000 They had the other woman they had, they considered a person of interest.

00:11:19.000 I haven't had a chance to dig into this to see what kind of evidence they have on this guy.

00:11:23.000 So, I mean, look, if he's, if he's the guy, great.

00:11:26.000 You know, I mean, it's nice to see the DOJ actually making arrests.

00:11:31.000 So hopefully that it is him.

00:11:32.000 But, you know, I'm kind of a wait and see, or I'm kind of the wait and see.

00:11:36.000 Feels very on par with the U.S. government for something to take four plus years to get anything done.

00:11:42.000 I mean, we talk about, you know, people talk about how they feel like things aren't getting done.

00:11:46.000 And I continuously say, look, the government's slow and the government's sloppy a lot of times.

00:11:50.000 The reason that they move at the pace that they move is because if they arrest someone and they don't have all their I's dotted and their T's crossed and they actually have the guy, they're going to end up having to let him go.

00:12:02.000 And that's worse than taking a long time.

00:12:04.000 Yeah, I heard that when they went and arrested him at his house, he asked, did I do that?

00:12:10.000 Aha.

00:12:11.000 Hey.

00:12:12.000 Yeah, there's also a story that, and we'll talk about it in a bit, that they're not going to be re-indicting Letitia James.

00:12:18.000 So this is all just, I don't know.

00:12:21.000 It all seems like.

00:12:22.000 Who was the other lady that they said, the one that was a suspect before? 0.99

00:12:26.000 Who was that lady? 1.00

00:12:27.000 I don't remember her name.

00:12:28.000 There was a C cop.

00:12:30.000 They were saying like the evidence was like that she's like, she bent down to pick something up.

00:12:33.000 That was what I was saying.

00:12:34.000 What was it?

00:12:35.000 Yeah.

00:12:35.000 So the evidence they had that she was the person was gate analysis.

00:12:41.000 What I said was, I believe the pipe bomber was a woman because men tend not to bend down at the hips.

00:12:41.000 Yeah.

00:12:47.000 They bend at the knee.

00:12:48.000 It's because of women's center of gravity. 1.00

00:12:50.000 They're more likely to bend down at the hip, which what this person does.

00:12:54.000 So look, I'm not the only one.

00:12:58.000 I don't know.

00:12:58.000 I'm not going to pretend to, I don't think the FBI is wrong, but I don't necessarily just trust the FBI, whoever's running it.

00:13:05.000 But Cal Seraphin said, sorry, no, this is legit.

00:13:07.000 I have videos of this man playing with his puppies five years ago.

00:13:09.000 He has a rock solid alibi.

00:13:11.000 Gate analysis is not real.

00:13:12.000 This story is fake news. 0.52

00:13:14.000 So what was published before is that it couldn't have been this woman because she has videos of her playing with puppies, which is like the stupidest thing I've ever heard because that's not evidence or an alibi of anything.

00:13:26.000 Like someone, I recorded a video of Phil juggling that proves he wasn't here on this date.

00:13:30.000 Can't even juggle.

00:13:30.000 No, it doesn't.

00:13:31.000 Well, you can't even prove a date based on a video.

00:13:33.000 That makes no sense.

00:13:34.000 What is she standing in front of a calendar? 1.00

00:13:35.000 I just put a fake calendar in front of her. 0.71

00:13:37.000 Or if they have an old one.

00:13:39.000 Wait, you mean if they have the initial, the actual video from it, wouldn't the metadata say?

00:13:43.000 No, because metadata can be faked very easily.

00:13:45.000 Ridiculously easily.

00:13:47.000 You just change the date on the device you're using.

00:13:50.000 Like you get a camcorder and you set the date wrong and then film it.

00:13:53.000 Like, oh, look at that.

00:13:53.000 The metadata on the digital file says the date.

00:13:55.000 So there's that proves it.

00:13:57.000 So there's no way for the video to exonerate, exonerate her.

00:14:02.000 Yeah, no way.

00:14:02.000 I mean, not in today's day and age.

00:14:04.000 To be like, I have a video of if there's a video, I suppose it could be like surveillance video owned by someone else that's like logged in a security system.

00:14:13.000 That's fine.

00:14:14.000 But how the other question I have, like, wasn't this person out of like midnight, like 1 a.m.?

00:14:18.000 Yeah.

00:14:19.000 So the idea is like she was playing with puppies in like a, in like a lobby somewhere.

00:14:23.000 Right.

00:14:24.000 But maybe, I mean, I mean, to be honest, maybe that's just the way they reported it and she's actually like in a lobby and that the hotel had security footage. 0.99

00:14:32.000 You know, I don't want to make it sound too stupid.

00:14:34.000 Like that one guy who claimed he went to a parking lot and this proves Turning Point was sending money to a parking lot because I don't understand what an LLC file to a mailbox is. 0.98

00:14:42.000 At the UPS store.

00:14:43.000 So I don't want to play conspiratorial games, although maybe our viewership would be a lot better if I just used vagaries and acted like everything was a conspiracy.

00:14:43.000 Right.

00:14:52.000 Everything is a conspiracy.

00:14:53.000 It's always.

00:14:55.000 Everyone's out to get you all the time.

00:14:56.000 That's right.

00:14:56.000 Well, and the federal government has like an unbelievable track record with prosecutions, right?

00:15:00.000 They almost never lose if they choose to prosecute.

00:15:03.000 98% or something.

00:15:04.000 It is true, but the argument is that it's because they only take cases they know they can win.

00:15:09.000 So that just means they let criminals go all the time.

00:15:11.000 Yeah, I mean, that's true.

00:15:12.000 And it speaks to the fact that prosecutors aren't actually motivated by finding the person that committed a crime or making sure that the streets are safe.

00:15:22.000 They're basically political actors and they want to make sure that they have the highest conviction rate that they possibly can.

00:15:28.000 So that way, when they come up for some kind of appointment or some kind of promotion, they can say, look at how great my record is.

00:15:35.000 It doesn't speak to how well they're actually serving the community.

00:15:38.000 It speaks to their making sure that the people that they select to prosecute are actually, you know, they have them dead to rights.

00:15:45.000 And it sets a basis for them down the road.

00:15:48.000 It sets a precedent.

00:15:49.000 So down the road, they're like, okay, every time we get someone to arrest someone, they're at 95%, 96%.

00:15:55.000 Yeah, I mean, the audience, the people in the world are like, okay, so they're definitely guilty because the feds are so good at what they do.

00:16:01.000 I mean, yeah, but like I said, I think it's more about politics and personal achievement.

00:16:06.000 They want to be able to say, oh, hey, I'm this successful.

00:16:09.000 And it's not actually representative of whether or not they're finding criminals, whether or not they're serving the community, whether or not they're making their community safer.

00:16:16.000 It's about they are selective in the prosecutions.

00:16:19.000 It's kind of like the opposite end of the spectrum of saying like crime is down in the city, but it's because they choose not to prosecute anybody.

00:16:25.000 Like they do in D.C. Or report it.

00:16:27.000 They've been doing that in a lot of cities, if I understand correctly.

00:16:30.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:16:31.000 It's all relatively black pilling. 0.94

00:16:34.000 I suppose this story is, it should be a white pill.

00:16:37.000 I mean, they may have caught the pipe bomber.

00:16:40.000 They've arrested this person.

00:16:41.000 We're learning the motivations.

00:16:42.000 This person appears to be anti-Trump or whatever.

00:16:45.000 So I don't know.

00:16:47.000 I don't have high hopes for the Trump administration and Republicans.

00:16:51.000 And I'm not convinced they're going to get on message to actually win an election.

00:16:54.000 It does feel like everything's just broken apart.

00:16:58.000 And, you know, where that leads us.

00:17:00.000 I honestly don't know.

00:17:00.000 Well, there's also, there's like no faith in institutions anymore.

00:17:03.000 So when something like this happens, immediately half the population is conspiratorial and the other half just doesn't trust the government anyways.

00:17:11.000 You don't have that finality anymore that used to exist when people had faith in the government.

00:17:16.000 It's true, but there's no benefit personally for coming out and saying, yeah, I really agree that they got the guy.

00:17:22.000 I think this is it and good for them and blah, blah, blah.

00:17:25.000 There's no social benefit for that.

00:17:27.000 Like if you're on social media and you say that, the first reply is going to be like, oh, yeah, you just believe everything the FBI says.

00:17:33.000 So the skepticism that people kind of have nowadays, it's almost like a defense mechanism.

00:17:40.000 So no way they're not getting criticized.

00:17:41.000 Pardon me?

00:17:42.000 Nobody wants to be wrong.

00:17:42.000 Yeah.

00:17:43.000 Like nobody wants to get caught being wrong because the worst thing you can be now is to be seen as a fool because you believe something that ended up not being true or you thought somebody was going to be guilty of something that ended up not being guilty.

00:17:53.000 So people just hedge their bets and don't if you're and if you're skeptical, like no one's going to go and look back six months to see if you said something and were wrong.

00:18:03.000 I mean, look at the Ian Carroll stuff about RFK, right?

00:18:06.000 Nobody's going back and talking about that.

00:18:08.000 He said that there was a big scandal coming and had him dead to rights and there were a bunch of people that were talking about it for a new cycle or two.

00:18:13.000 Nothing serialized.

00:18:16.000 This is the reality of humanity, I suppose, is that people are typically socially driven.

00:18:24.000 They want to fit in more than anything else.

00:18:26.000 And so you do have this great period of contrarian values, I suppose.

00:18:31.000 Maybe you can transact the right word.

00:18:33.000 But the Trump movement, people basically saying, I'm not going to fall in line to this weird stuff you want me to do.

00:18:38.000 And I don't think it's necessarily because people felt that Trump was right.

00:18:42.000 It was that Democrats wanted them to do something that they didn't feel comfortable doing.

00:18:46.000 So the Democrats tried to move the Overton window too quickly.

00:18:49.000 When they did, it dropped a bunch of people off that platform.

00:18:53.000 Those people are sitting there being like, I'm not going to call a man a woman. 0.63

00:18:57.000 They would have due to social pressure if it was done more slowly, in my opinion.

00:19:00.000 I think most people would.

00:19:01.000 And the evidence for this is where we currently are with a Republican Party that is now pro-gay marriage, that there are trans and gay Republicans that do advocacy for the GOP.

00:19:12.000 That shows tremendously the Overton window has shifted and traditional Republican values are long gone.

00:19:18.000 And what we have now is just more of a populist movement that includes conservatives that are moderate and accepting of gay marriage and transgender individuals.

00:19:26.000 Not completely, but a bit.

00:19:29.000 Now, imagine the Republican Party 20 years ago.

00:19:31.000 There's no way they weren't even for gay marriage. 1.00

00:19:35.000 Oh, go ahead.

00:19:36.000 I was like, neither were for the Democrats.

00:19:38.000 But for the white pill to this, Kash Patel did switch out the leadership on the FBI on this J6 pipe bombing team.

00:19:45.000 He put in new guys because the old team wasn't doing anything good.

00:19:48.000 So he's putting in these new guys on his team he wants in there and they finally, you know, they've found him.

00:19:52.000 So they've been working on this for four years and put in new people and they felt that's conspiratorial.

00:19:58.000 That's scary.

00:19:59.000 You know, I think the sad reality that anybody, if you're interested in truth and what's really going on, the problem is you're going to find that most people are not.

00:20:11.000 And this is, you know, we're seeing this right now largely with the drama around Candace, of course, and Turning Point USA.

00:20:18.000 We see it in the Democratic Party.

00:20:20.000 People just want to be a part of the crowd.

00:20:23.000 And they're going to, so if you say something that contradicts their worldview, and this is how it's always been, said it before, I'll say it again, that they're going to abandon you.

00:20:31.000 They're going to say, okay, you're no longer in line with the world that I want to be.

00:20:36.000 So it's not about what is true.

00:20:37.000 Certainly there are things that Joe Biden did that I was like, okay, that's fine.

00:20:40.000 You know, he wanted to get rid of credit card ATM or overdraft fees or whatever.

00:20:44.000 But there were people that were just, no matter what Trump does, it's wrong.

00:20:48.000 Now, what I will say is this is a tendency on the right and it's a rule on the left.

00:20:53.000 And that's typically why you find a lot of moderates aligned with conservatives.

00:20:56.000 Now, I would say everything's completely shattered.

00:21:00.000 And it's not just Candace, but she kind of just is the avatar of it.

00:21:06.000 But there are this general MAGA rift between, you know, as you mentioned, like Ian Carroll saying, there's a bunch of things.

00:21:13.000 There's nothing.

00:21:15.000 People really want to exist in this conspiracy space for some reason.

00:21:19.000 I suppose it gives them a sense of almost purpose.

00:21:23.000 You know, as woke fades away as the collective enemy, there isn't one and there needs to be one.

00:21:29.000 And so groups are trying to find who their enemy is and they'll take whatever they can get.

00:21:33.000 And then you end up with, I guess right now, a bunch of weird stories that don't add up or make sense.

00:21:40.000 And my favorite example is this dude making a video where he's like, why is Turning Point giving $1.4 million to a parking lot?

00:21:46.000 And everyone's like, brother, it's a UPS store.

00:21:48.000 It's an LLC registered to a mailbox.

00:21:50.000 But he's lying intentionally because it generates views.

00:21:53.000 And these people, it's the conspiracy world they want to live in.

00:21:55.000 Well, it's a side effect of the creator economy, right?

00:21:59.000 It's like the one thing that you have to have when you're in this space is you have to be moving towards something.

00:22:04.000 You have to have a rallying cry.

00:22:06.000 You have to have something that you're working towards so you can build an audience because they want to feel like they're connecting with you, working towards something.

00:22:12.000 It's actually, it's like a joke on our channel where I'm like, I'm not here to sell you anything.

00:22:16.000 Literally, I'm just trying to help you kill a couple hours of time today.

00:22:19.000 But the thing is, that's actually counterintuitive to what works in these spaces because most of the time, it's you're fighting against a company.

00:22:25.000 You're fighting against a government.

00:22:27.000 You're fighting against an ideology and stuff like that.

00:22:29.000 And for a lot of people, they're just creating, you know, whether it's Ian Carroll or Candace Owens, they've got whoever that they're going against right now.

00:22:37.000 And that's just what works in this space.

00:22:39.000 I generally think this is a positive thing, though.

00:22:42.000 You just mentioned blackpilling.

00:22:43.000 I actually think it's necessary because we need somebody to hold the Republican Party or any sort of movement on the right accountable.

00:22:51.000 Because otherwise, we're just going to be this uniform movement.

00:22:54.000 I mean, I'm not a Republican.

00:22:55.000 I'm from Germany.

00:22:56.000 But still, I mean, I observe what's going on in the right-wing movement.

00:22:59.000 And I think it's crucial that we establish some form of individualism so we can keep these conversations going, these discussions going.

00:23:05.000 And you're totally right that it's a problem that we constantly need to have some form of enemy.

00:23:10.000 And it shouldn't be this way because it's a big distraction.

00:23:13.000 And I think it's on purpose.

00:23:14.000 It's kind of like a big psyop, whoever is starting this, whoever is behind this.

00:23:18.000 But as long as we keep the conversation going, as long as we don't censor anyone, because I think that was the biggest threat pre-Trump.

00:23:25.000 Everybody was censored who said anything that went against the establishment against the mainstream narrative, which unfortunately was the most horrific things like child abuse, literally child abuse.

00:23:37.000 That was becoming a mainstream thing.

00:23:39.000 And we are now going in the other direction and now in the other direction, we're now realizing that we still have a lot of differences because that's what defines us.

00:23:47.000 We are individualists.

00:23:48.000 And I think that's a positive thing in a way because it just shows that we should never get comfortable with any government.

00:23:54.000 My question to you would be: what do you think would be a positive direction?

00:23:57.000 Do you see any hope for the next administration and who should it be?

00:24:01.000 I would say there's a toss-up right now.

00:24:02.000 I mean, JD Vance seems to be the guy who's been doing an amazing job in, you know, look, Trump says he wants the prices of houses to stay stable.

00:24:12.000 He says H-1Bs, he says all these things.

00:24:14.000 And of course, that pisses off Gen Z, who are freaking out.

00:24:17.000 JD Vance comes out with better messaging saying, no, no, no, we got to get the prices of houses down.

00:24:21.000 He pushes back on a lot of the establishment shills.

00:24:26.000 He's willing to be aggressive, but he's got a bit more, I don't know, inline decorum than Trump does.

00:24:33.000 So I'm fairly optimistic on JD Vance.

00:24:37.000 The issue that I see largely right now is now that there's no unified enemy, the right doesn't seem to be focused on what they're fighting for.

00:24:45.000 So for a while, it really does feel like right now the issue was Trump comes out and says, I want to do great things.

00:24:53.000 And a lot of people got behind him because the machine was against him.

00:24:57.000 Now that the machine is largely routed and the Bud Light failing a couple years ago and all the things afterwards, now people are kind of like, well, I don't know.

00:25:10.000 Is it Nick Fuentez is Tucker Carlson?

00:25:13.000 My view of it is kind of people were supporting Trump and the things behind Trump more so because the left was attacking Trump.

00:25:20.000 Now that the left is largely destroyed, the right is splitting up and pointing in random directions.

00:25:24.000 And instead of saying, hey, guys, we've got an immigration fight to complete, you have the principal faction that is still very much Trump can do no wrong.

00:25:33.000 And the media attacking him is the deep state, things like this.

00:25:36.000 But then you get this other faction that is anti-Trump.

00:25:39.000 You know, Nick Fuentes is not a big Trump guy.

00:25:41.000 He wants to unite with the left.

00:25:43.000 You have this growing group that is largely just anti-Israel.

00:25:47.000 They found a new enemy.

00:25:48.000 This is the enemy.

00:25:49.000 It's the true enemy.

00:25:50.000 And so I'm sitting here being like, are we actually focused on winning for any particular reason?

00:25:57.000 It seems like the right is broken up into a bunch of different pieces and there is no unified vision of what post-midterms or post-2020 should be looking like.

00:26:08.000 Because there would be that's literally too many things to name, right?

00:26:11.000 Is it immigration?

00:26:12.000 Is it the price of groceries?

00:26:14.000 Is it Israel?

00:26:15.000 There's too many different things for people to consider the problem for everybody to unite around how to fix it.

00:26:20.000 When it was the left, it was that.

00:26:22.000 It was everything is encompassed under the left's rule.

00:26:25.000 Now it's a bunch of issues that just largely affect all Americans and they don't have a way of aiming that in a specific direction.

00:26:32.000 I think the best way to be successful is to focus on things like the economy and immigration.

00:26:37.000 Those are two things that the economy definitely everybody can be can get behind the idea of we need to have a booming economy.

00:26:46.000 We need to have an economy that's successful because it's the only way we can manage the debt.

00:26:50.000 I don't know that we can even fix the debt problem that we have, but we're certainly not going to be able to manage it unless we're being unless we have a vibrant growing economy.

00:26:57.000 And you're talking about, like to be realistic, it's going to have to be really, really booming, 3%, 4% to actually control the situation with the debt.

00:27:09.000 And I think immigration is something that most Americans get behind as well.

00:27:13.000 When Trump was running, it was a 75% agreed about immigration, something like that.

00:27:20.000 It was super high.

00:27:21.000 And now maybe it's lower because people see ICE on social media.

00:27:27.000 They see people protesting.

00:27:28.000 And so maybe they're getting a little squishy, but it's still a winner for the Republican Party.

00:27:33.000 So if they focus on those two things, I think immigration and the economy are actual winners.

00:27:37.000 And everything else, I think, is honestly a distraction.

00:27:40.000 The fact that people are paying attention to all this stuff, I think, is because they don't see the results in the economy or in immigration.

00:27:47.000 Even though immigration, you know, the Department of Homeland Security would say that there's been 2 million people that have deported and been self-deported since Donald Trump took office, which is cool.

00:27:58.000 It's not enough, obviously, but it's cool.

00:28:00.000 That still doesn't satisfy the people that are like, you know, nothing ever gets fixed.

00:28:04.000 So let's jump into the story.

00:28:05.000 We've got this from Harvard, actually.

00:28:07.000 It's the Harvard youth poll.

00:28:09.000 And this story is big because Gen Z is largely giving up. 0.61

00:28:12.000 What they find is that Gen Z has defined their generation by financial, political, and interpersonal instability. 0.94

00:28:20.000 It's a defining feature of daily life, shaping their outlook on the country and their own futures.

00:28:24.000 And right now, 57% of Gen Z think the country is on the wrong track.

00:28:30.000 This includes younger conservatives who are not pro-Trump.

00:28:34.000 Not all of these guys are Groypers, but certainly those that are are not in favor of what Trump is doing.

00:28:39.000 So what does this country look like with 80 million?

00:28:43.000 Well, it's about 78 million Gen Z who don't like Trump, they don't like Democrats.

00:28:49.000 What does that become in 10 years when these people are going to be in their late 30s?

00:28:54.000 They're going to be going into their 40s in 10 years.

00:28:57.000 Right?

00:28:57.000 I think what oldest Gen Z is about 27, 28 years old.

00:29:01.000 So this is they are entering the peak of their lives where they should have families and homes.

00:29:09.000 And what are they doing?

00:29:11.000 Living with their parents?

00:29:12.000 Will you ever have a young generation that agrees with the government?

00:29:15.000 I think it's a very natural evolvement of people in this kind of age group where they just have to be contrarians and they don't like what's going on in the government.

00:29:23.000 I think as they grow into naturally into more conservative values and starting to think about having a family and actually being more comfortable in life and asking for more security and your stable living conditions, that often makes them more united in a more conservative fashion.

00:29:42.000 So I think it's this kind of rebellious phase in a way.

00:29:45.000 I also understand why they do feel so insecure.

00:29:48.000 I mean, the economy is terrible and that has a huge impact, especially on the younger generations.

00:29:53.000 And as soon as they feel that these issues, especially those who are tending more towards the left, they're asking for higher taxes because it doesn't impact them.

00:30:03.000 They don't have to worry about it.

00:30:05.000 So I think these issues, I think they will tend more towards the middle as they grow older.

00:30:09.000 But at the same time, like I mentioned before, they will form their own movement, but it doesn't necessarily have to be completely opposite to what Trump is currently promoting or what we stood for during the time that we have been promoting the right for the past years.

00:30:25.000 I think it's going to repeat itself or at least rhyme itself with what we were promoting.

00:30:31.000 So I don't think it's something that we have to be scared of.

00:30:33.000 I think it's more something where we have to guide the younger generation.

00:30:37.000 I would like to be more of a voice for the younger generation rather than somebody who condemns them and demonizes them.

00:30:42.000 Right.

00:30:42.000 But the problem is the Trump administration needs to win, or I shouldn't say the Trump, but Republicans win elections in the United States through older voters.

00:30:49.000 Younger voters, not only is the younger demographic smaller than the older demographic because people weren't having kids, but the older demographic is more likely to vote in general.

00:30:58.000 So you've got two problems.

00:31:00.000 If you go to the boomers, which is going to be the most active voting block for 2026, and say, we need to get the price of homes down, they're going to go, whoa, that's where all my money is. 1.00

00:31:12.000 If my home goes down in value, I lose my retirement.

00:31:15.000 If you go out and say, we're going to make the prices of homes go up, then the young people are like, well, I'm screwed.

00:31:22.000 And I think that's the move they're making.

00:31:24.000 Politicians in the United States are basically saying, always favor the old.

00:31:29.000 Social Security can never be touched.

00:31:31.000 Young people are saying, I'm being taxed in oblivion and I have no money and I don't get that.

00:31:36.000 Don't let prices drop on houses because old people have the boomers have three or have three houses. 1.00

00:31:41.000 Not all of them, but around 75% of boomers own homes and many of them own more than one.

00:31:46.000 So it's always going to favor this and they're going to live longer.

00:31:50.000 So Gen Z, I think that's why we see this data.

00:31:52.000 They're basically saying you have built a system to extract from us and we will never see that value again.

00:31:58.000 Yeah, it's the wages have stopped going up.

00:32:01.000 There's a stagnation when it comes to the way that they can make money.

00:32:04.000 And then they've taken out $200,000 in student loan debt, which then pushes them back into favor of the government.

00:32:10.000 Even if you're pushing back against the government now, the government has found a way to reinstitute itself in your life no matter what.

00:32:17.000 Even if you're successful, even if you get a job making a good amount of money, you're still in debt slavery.

00:32:23.000 There's no way out.

00:32:24.000 Indeed.

00:32:25.000 So when I see this and they say interpersonal instability, you've got social media apps that are destroying social interaction.

00:32:32.000 You've got a financial crisis going back to COVID.

00:32:36.000 I mean, technically, even before that when they were little kids, and they can't own homes.

00:32:41.000 I don't think any of this is a condemnation of Gen Z.

00:32:43.000 I don't.

00:32:44.000 I think it's most people now, especially millennials, they look at what's happening to Gen Z and they're like, I can absolutely see, because we saw the beginning of that with the financial crisis in 2008.

00:32:53.000 It's like people talk a lot about how people in these spaces condemn Gen Z.

00:32:58.000 I don't think that's what it is.

00:32:59.000 I think most people look at the nihilism that's coming from a lot of American Gen Zs and they say that makes perfect sense to me. 1.00

00:33:06.000 But it feels in a lot of ways like they feel like it was orchestrated by the government post-2008 to actually create the situation that we're in now.

00:33:14.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the government is responsible for a significant portion of this, whether it be the incentivizing people that didn't have the funds or the credit rating to buy homes before the housing market crash or the way that they've handled the economy since.

00:33:29.000 They spent 10 years just printing money, doing quantitative easing, which is the main driver of income inequality that people feel.

00:33:38.000 They feel like they don't have as much money and they feel like the rich are getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

00:33:42.000 And they generally are because when you print up money, rich people get access to that money first.

00:33:48.000 They can borrow against either their home or what have you, and they can invest that money in the stock market, which is why the stock market has gone up so dramatically in the past 10 years.

00:33:57.000 They borrowed money at a super low rate, put the money in the stock market, made themselves a bunch of money.

00:34:03.000 And then if you have people that are poor or don't have anything, if they get their hands on money, the first thing they're doing is trying to pay bills, pay for their groceries.

00:34:11.000 And where does that money go?

00:34:12.000 Goes to the people that own the grocery stores.

00:34:14.000 It goes to the people that own things.

00:34:15.000 So this wealth transfer that we've seen in the past 10, 15 years, it's all because of government policy.

00:34:21.000 And COVID, too.

00:34:22.000 Pardon me?

00:34:22.000 The wealth transfer over COVID, too.

00:34:24.000 Yeah, but COVID was the same thing.

00:34:25.000 You know, it's like people got when the government just printed up money and they gave it to people, people that didn't have any kind of assets or whatever, they spent that money.

00:34:34.000 And where did that money go?

00:34:35.000 Again, it went to Jeff Bezos because they were buying things on Amazon.

00:34:38.000 So if you get free money from the government, and even if Jeff Bezos doesn't get it, the billionaires get it anyways because they're the ones that own things and you're going to buy the services and products that they're selling.

00:34:50.000 And not even just like people that own businesses.

00:34:52.000 It was the billionaires because your mom and pop shops were shut down and you were only allowed to get stuff from Walmart or from Amazon.

00:35:00.000 Yeah.

00:35:01.000 A never-ending problem in politics is that it's just naturally not future-oriented because you're only going to be in office for so long.

00:35:08.000 So it's not a delayed gratification type of industry at all.

00:35:11.000 And I think that's going to upset a lot of young people who maybe some of them are not even voters yet.

00:35:16.000 And maybe some of them are just starting to vote, but they are just in the minority out of all the voters.

00:35:21.000 And that typically draws them more towards the left, I think, because they're going to get very frustrated if we don't interact with them.

00:35:26.000 So I think something that would be very important for us, like as a community, as a society, would be to promote more future thinking.

00:35:33.000 And I guess the most important person who has been doing this for the past years is Elon Musk, who thinks very far ahead, who thinks about us going to Mars in the very far future.

00:35:41.000 I think that's a bit too far for politics.

00:35:43.000 But generally, just promoting more family values and also for older people or even just our generation, honestly, to think about the future generations, which are our children, and making creating more of this community between younger generations and older generations again.

00:36:00.000 Because I think currently there's actually a big age war in politics.

00:36:04.000 Well, yeah.

00:36:05.000 I see in the United States, when we point out that boomers, 75% own homes, and many of those people own multiple homes, they get angry.

00:36:14.000 Not all boomers, but we'll get a lot of responses being like, don't blame us.

00:36:17.000 I worked for it and I deserve it.

00:36:19.000 I've heard from tons of boomers and they say, hey, I work for my security. 0.99

00:36:22.000 I deserve it.

00:36:23.000 And it's just like, yes, but in order to pay for it, like you paid someone else.

00:36:28.000 And Gen Z is now working to pay you.

00:36:30.000 And Gen Z is never going to see that money. 0.89

00:36:31.000 And those boomers that have multiple homes, they locked in an interest rate of 2%, 3%.

00:36:36.000 And now, if you want to go buy a home, it's going to be 6, 7%.

00:36:40.000 And that's a huge amount of money over the course of a 30-year loan.

00:36:43.000 So the idea that people, you know, the boomers are like, oh, you know, don't be mad at me, blah, I mean, look, you're going to have people saying, this is not fair.

00:36:51.000 You know, this is not fair that I can't afford a home, that I can't get that interest rate that you got.

00:36:56.000 You got this super sweet deal because the government was doing everything they can to keep interest rates down and keep them low because they were pumping up the stock market.

00:37:04.000 And again, you can't stress this enough.

00:37:06.000 They did it for 10, 15 years, for like 10 years.

00:37:10.000 You had super, super low interest rates.

00:37:12.000 And then COVID came.

00:37:13.000 And because of the inflation with COVID, they had to jack up the interest rates.

00:37:17.000 And like young people are totally screwed because of this.

00:37:20.000 And boomers need to relax on their nihilism. 0.95

00:37:23.000 Like they need to start caring.

00:37:24.000 We need to start caring because we have under 30% of under 30-year-olds, 8% of people are leaning Republican.

00:37:30.000 They're not getting, they're not into the Republican Party.

00:37:33.000 They don't care about it.

00:37:34.000 So the old folks, boomers who have the money, you guys can start thinking about you're going to die. 1.00

00:37:39.000 What are you going to do with your money?

00:37:40.000 You're going to die.

00:37:40.000 So you need to start caring about what the young kids and give them opportunities and just show them that you care.

00:37:45.000 That we might be, might get more folks who are going to come to Republican.

00:37:48.000 I'm not sure exactly how you do that, though.

00:37:50.000 Like, what is it that boomers are supposed to do to indicate care? 1.00

00:37:55.000 And first of all, what are they supposed to do to indicate that they care?

00:37:58.000 Second of all, right?

00:38:00.000 Like, what is it that they could materially do to help young people?

00:38:04.000 You know, I mean, if they've got a mortgage at a low rate and they're trying to rent it out, but young people don't have the money to rent it out, they still have a mortgage that they have to cover.

00:38:16.000 They can't go ahead and be like, well, I'll lose money on my, or at least they're not going to say, I'll lose money on my on my rental property so that way you have a place to live.

00:38:24.000 Even the system that they were born into doesn't really exist anymore because they went to college for much cheaper, but that's not their fault that they went to college for much cheaper.

00:38:33.000 And now because the government got involved in student loans, the price of going to college has been jacked up exponentially.

00:38:39.000 And there's no way for the newer generations to actually feasibly have a good life. 0.99

00:38:44.000 Because if there are a lot of these companies now, they've been sold off to major corporations, which put ridiculous rules in place for how people are hired.

00:38:52.000 And people just get price, you know, they get basically removed from the job market entirely, whether it's through H-1B visas or the fact that you need to have five years experience for an entry-level job and stuff like that.

00:39:02.000 It's literally designed to fail, but that isn't necessarily the fault of the generation that came before them, other than the ones who sold their companies to larger companies, which then put these rules into place.

00:39:13.000 You don't see a lot of things in the way of paid, like internships or mentoring programs in the same way that they used to.

00:39:21.000 It doesn't work that way anymore.

00:39:22.000 And then millennials or Gen Z get angry when a boomer says to you, you know what?

00:39:27.000 Go up to him and shake his hand and look him in the eye and hand him your resume and make sure it's printed out on good card stock and stuff like that.

00:39:34.000 It's not really their fault that that advice doesn't work anymore, but it's just, it just further kind of reinforces the divide between all these generations.

00:39:42.000 It's a double-edged sword nowadays for young people because young people are doing more staying at home.

00:39:47.000 They don't interact with people.

00:39:48.000 They don't have social skills the way that you did, say, that people did generally 20, 30, 40 years ago.

00:39:53.000 And one of the most effective ways to find a job is knowing people, networking with people.

00:40:00.000 So if you're not very charismatic, you can't hold a conversation with someone, you don't know where to go to meet people, you don't have particularly good interpersonal skills, and you have to have your mom come with you to your interview, right?

00:40:15.000 And you're not going to get the job.

00:40:17.000 You're just not.

00:40:18.000 And if you don't know a lot of people, opportunities are going to slip by.

00:40:22.000 And so one of the best kind of best advice you can give to young people is to break out of that kind of cycle of staying home, not going out, not meeting people.

00:40:34.000 And as distasteful as it might seem, go to job fairs.

00:40:40.000 And even if they're not jobs that you're particularly interested in, the more you're out among people and talk to people, the better your chances of finding some kind of job.

00:40:49.000 And people are going to go ahead and poo-poo that idea.

00:40:51.000 But I tell you what, it's a way better idea than sitting at home on social media and scrolling through TikTok because you're not going to find any work on your couch.

00:40:59.000 It's an even better idea than going to college.

00:41:02.000 And I mean that genuinely.

00:41:03.000 I do not encourage anyone in there who just graduated from high school to go to college now.

00:41:09.000 And I say that as someone, I graduated with the highest degree that you could, the highest grade that you can get in high school in Germany.

00:41:16.000 And in Germany, it's even more standardized that you kind of have to go to university.

00:41:19.000 Otherwise, you're kind of failed pass and then you don't make it at all in Germany.

00:41:23.000 And everybody told me you have to go to university because otherwise you're wasting your great grades.

00:41:29.000 And I hated it.

00:41:30.000 I didn't want to go to college.

00:41:32.000 I didn't want to go to university.

00:41:33.000 This was my dream in middle school.

00:41:35.000 And then after high school, I realized this is just the same honestly horrible system.

00:41:41.000 It's just so, it failed so many young people.

00:41:44.000 And now people are getting out of college who just went in the past years.

00:41:47.000 And now they're realizing, oh, AI is taking over.

00:41:50.000 So my degree is useless now.

00:41:52.000 So what am I going to do now?

00:41:53.000 So you need to be in tune with what's currently happening in the entire job world.

00:41:58.000 And you cannot live in the real world while you're going to college or university.

00:42:03.000 And it's a big problem.

00:42:04.000 I think you need to be updated in everything that's going on on social media, in the media, and understand what actually matters to the world.

00:42:13.000 Because the whole idea, the whole idea of becoming an entrepreneur is you need to understand what are the problems, the real problems of people so you can solve them.

00:42:20.000 You need to make yourself useful.

00:42:22.000 By going to college, you're just seeking great grades in something that nobody cares about.

00:42:28.000 Nobody cares about your grades.

00:42:29.000 You have to be useful to society.

00:42:31.000 Yep.

00:42:31.000 Yeah, that's a great point.

00:42:33.000 The idea that you're owed a job or that just because of your existing in the United States, you should be able to find a job.

00:42:41.000 You need to be useful.

00:42:42.000 That's a great point.

00:42:43.000 This is a challenge for Gen Z. 1.00

00:42:46.000 And every generation, except for, I think, Gen X, had some great challenge.

00:42:51.000 Although, to be fair, I think Gen X had with the financial crisis hitting them right at like the peaks of their careers, many losing a lot of what they worked for.

00:42:59.000 You can see the charts on corporate equities and homeownership when the 2008 crash happened.

00:43:04.000 Gen X got eviscerated.

00:43:07.000 But that being said, I was talking about this earlier with this great clip from Fight Club where Brad Bitt's character says that there's, you know, Tyler Durbin, we have no great war.

00:43:17.000 We have no great struggle or whatever.

00:43:19.000 Every generation has some kind of struggle, and Gen Z has this one right now.

00:43:22.000 The question is, are they going to rise to the challenge?

00:43:25.000 And how will they do it?

00:43:27.000 Are they going to go leftist and say, just tax everybody and burn it down?

00:43:30.000 I'll extract what I can from these people.

00:43:32.000 Or are they going to be the, I'm going to go out and find my own way within the system?

00:43:36.000 I don't think that's what it is.

00:43:37.000 I don't think the school, I don't think that the educational system they've been raised on treats people teaches people to actually create jobs for themselves.

00:43:46.000 It mostly teaches you to be a worker for somebody else.

00:43:49.000 Not everybody has the desire to be an entrepreneur to go out and create the economy for themselves.

00:43:54.000 Now, that's possible that eventually, if it's if it comes to that and there's no other options, you know, kind of feet held to the fire, maybe that ends up being what happens to you.

00:44:02.000 But most people aren't entrepreneurs.

00:44:04.000 They're people that work best going into a job.

00:44:07.000 And most people seek out the security of having a job rather than creating money for themselves.

00:44:11.000 That reminds me of something that Asmund Gold says a lot.

00:44:13.000 You know, there are some people that are born to take big rocks and make them into smaller rocks.

00:44:17.000 That's about all they can do.

00:44:19.000 I was at this local politician party a long time ago.

00:44:24.000 And there was some wealthy dude there who said, some people, someone has to work at McDonald's, you know?

00:44:30.000 And that's how a lot of these people view the world.

00:44:34.000 The issue is right now, McDonald's doesn't pay enough so that you can live a life.

00:44:38.000 And it used to be that working at McDonald's was something a 16-year-old did, and then it was a summer job where you got paid a little bit, saved up money, but lived with your parents.

00:44:46.000 And then when you got older and got out of high school, you got a trade or a better job.

00:44:50.000 But I think this system that we've built over the last hundred years is a lie.

00:44:53.000 It used to be that you learned from your parents.

00:44:55.000 Then we industrialized this system.

00:44:58.000 And then we tried to institutionalize this system with college.

00:45:04.000 But some people are just meant to turn big rocks into small rocks.

00:45:08.000 They're never going to learn how to run computer systems or run businesses.

00:45:12.000 And how do you then navigate this system?

00:45:15.000 I honestly don't know.

00:45:16.000 Well, it's like when you hear entrepreneurs talk about the business, they talk about their, it's an obsession of theirs, right?

00:45:22.000 They think about it every minute of every day.

00:45:24.000 It's the most important thing in the world to them.

00:45:26.000 And it oftentimes will end up being to the detriment of other avenues of their life.

00:45:30.000 And most people just don't have that in them to live that way.

00:45:33.000 I know that's not the way that I see the world, right?

00:45:36.000 Like it would be very hard for me to live that way.

00:45:38.000 So I can't condemn people because they're not built in a way that's designed to run, you know, to live your life like that when most people aren't.

00:45:47.000 But we are slowly moving towards a world where that's what's going to happen.

00:45:50.000 Now, you could say that the creator economy on social media has actually created many entrepreneurs out of people in Gen Z and Gen Alpha, the ones who go out and they work for themselves by making social media content.

00:46:02.000 That is a form of industriousness that's probably more natural to them than it is to prior generations.

00:46:09.000 Yeah, I mean, but not everybody can make content that's, you know, I mean, that's my point.

00:46:13.000 This is the, you know, yeah, this is this is the, the, it goes for every job, right?

00:46:18.000 Not everyone can do every job out there.

00:46:20.000 It's like, it goes back to the thing we talk about where people are not just cogs that you can replace one person and have them do the same exact job as someone else.

00:46:29.000 But it is worth saying that, you know, the people that find some kind of niche that they're good at, people that go out and try a bunch of different things, those are the people that are most likely to be successful, at least to some degree.

00:46:41.000 Well, you've actually said that here when you said when we talk about hiring for these types of shows, right?

00:46:46.000 You said most of the people, it's very hard to hire people to do on-camera stuff because most people, if they can do it, they're going to do it on their own because they're built that way.

00:46:56.000 Well, right now, I just think Gen Z is a generation that has been raised with the least education, I think is the way I'd put it. 0.89

00:47:08.000 So I think This is not a condemnation of any individual, but I think the people who raised Gen Z, which is largely Gen X, did not instill within their children an understanding of the world, how to make money, how to operate, and worse than the previous generations before. 0.85

00:47:29.000 Millennials are really, really bad. 1.00

00:47:31.000 Gen Z isn't necessarily as bad. 0.99

00:47:33.000 They may be very similar to millennials, but millennials are really bad too. 1.00

00:47:36.000 Constantly complaining, voting for communists.

00:47:39.000 And every generation before is to blame.

00:47:42.000 You know, it's funny when people say they want to repeal the 19th Amendment, and I'm like, blame the politicians back then who allowed it.

00:47:48.000 I mean, every generation has committed some kind of political act that resulted in where we are today.

00:47:54.000 And I think this is a natural ebb and flow.

00:47:57.000 Strong times make, or I'm sorry, hard times make strong men.

00:48:01.000 Strong men make good times.

00:48:02.000 Good times make weak men.

00:48:03.000 Weak men make hard times.

00:48:04.000 Strauss out generational theories.

00:48:06.000 Saddle up boys because it's about to get a whole lot worse.

00:48:08.000 There are way too many young people who don't know what to do.

00:48:12.000 Not that it's their fault.

00:48:13.000 Society was supposed to help them understand.

00:48:16.000 And instead of teaching the next generation how to take over, they're flooding the country with immigrants, making it impossible. 1.00

00:48:21.000 So the whole thing is going to go tits up.

00:48:23.000 I mean, let's jump to this next story from the post-millennial.

00:48:23.000 Yeah.

00:48:26.000 Tim Waltz says people are driving by his house and calling him retarded.

00:48:31.000 Quote, I've never seen this before.

00:48:32.000 People driving by my house and using the R word in front of people.

00:48:36.000 Oh, the R word.

00:48:37.000 True.

00:48:38.000 This creates danger.

00:48:40.000 And I'll tell you what, in my time on this, I'd never seen this before.

00:48:44.000 People driving by my house and using the R word in front of people.

00:48:49.000 This is shameful.

00:48:50.000 And I have yet to see an elected official, a Republican elected official say, you're right, that's shameful.

00:48:56.000 It's not shameful.

00:48:57.000 It's actually funny.

00:48:58.000 Should not say it.

00:48:59.000 So look, I'm worried.

00:49:00.000 We know how these things go.

00:49:01.000 They start with taunts, they turn to violence.

00:49:03.000 So deeply concerned.

00:49:05.000 Uh-huh. 0.94

00:49:06.000 Well, he was called retarded because of things like this.

00:49:09.000 And look, for a while, we had principally two factions: liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican, whatever you want to call it.

00:49:20.000 Now it's been splintering even more.

00:49:22.000 With the left, you have the establishment Democrats and the socialist left.

00:49:27.000 And on the right now, there's the mega rift, they're calling it, Tucker, you know, interviewing Fuentes, and then everyone's getting all bent out of shape.

00:49:35.000 I don't know if this is going to be kind of a, let's call it the period at which the caterpillar turns into a pile of sludge within the cocoon and then something new comes out, right?

00:49:48.000 Is this going to be that all the factions start fighting and then new factions form in the next couple of years?

00:49:53.000 Or is this the total granularization of politics in this country and everyone will just hate each other?

00:50:01.000 If it goes that granular, how do you even run a national campaign?

00:50:05.000 I mean, we're at the point now where I question how you run a national campaign.

00:50:08.000 How is JD Vance going to win over the Tucker Carlson Fuentes faction?

00:50:15.000 Not that they're identical, but the very, let's just say, let's just say Israel critical, and then you have the Christian Zionist faction.

00:50:21.000 JD Vance has got to get both of them.

00:50:23.000 Anna Kasparian is talking about how she watches Candace Owens.

00:50:28.000 So maybe a Republican comes out and says, we're going to, you know, you've got a Republican primary where you've got candidates who are, I'm going to go to Israel.

00:50:35.000 And then there says, no way, we're not going to do that.

00:50:37.000 And then maybe Democrats start voting Republican because people like Anna Kasparian have left the left already.

00:50:43.000 Their message needs to be America.

00:50:45.000 I feel like it's the only thing that keeps us together.

00:50:49.000 A lot of lefties hate America and Democrats hate America, but for majority people, if you are anti-Israel, pro-Israel, end of the day, you're America first, mega. 0.52

00:50:59.000 So if you, if they're pronouncing the message of America and borders, economy, that's the only message I can think of.

00:51:06.000 I don't think so.

00:51:08.000 No.

00:51:08.000 No, I mean, the people who hate Israel, it's the only thing they care about.

00:51:12.000 They're not talking about the border.

00:51:13.000 They're talking about Israel and the spies who killed Charlie Kirk and things like that.

00:51:18.000 To be fair, it's not necessarily correct because even Nick Fuentes is opposed to that.

00:51:22.000 But this is how granularized it come, granularized how it is, where even the Israel side is now split.

00:51:29.000 But will that have, we're talking about elections, though, right?

00:51:31.000 So if we, yep, JD Vance, if you're doing the American message, they're going to have to vote Republican.

00:51:38.000 I completely disagree.

00:51:39.000 Do you think they just stay home?

00:51:41.000 I honestly don't know.

00:51:43.000 This is, I don't necessarily want to say unprecedented, but again, like right now, you've got all these media outlets that are talking about this rift on the right.

00:51:52.000 The left is flattened, right?

00:51:54.000 I don't even, I don't even, who's even in charge at this point?

00:51:56.000 When you look at their polling for the Democrats, it's like their best polling person's AOC at like 12%.

00:52:02.000 So I don't know.

00:52:04.000 I mean, Fetterman polls well amongst people who like Fetterman, and AOC polls well among people who like AOC.

00:52:09.000 But now that the left is largely routed, now that we're at the point where disaffected liberals, not people like me, of course, because I have a show, but I've talked to a lot of people recently who said, yeah, I used to be somewhat of a liberal, but now I vote Republicans, they've gone crazy.

00:52:24.000 These people can speak freely.

00:52:27.000 They no longer fear cancellation or losing their jobs.

00:52:30.000 That means this woke beast has been largely defeated.

00:52:33.000 Maybe it still exists, but largely defeated.

00:52:36.000 Now people are looking for what they're for and against again.

00:52:39.000 And the right is now pointing the fingers at each other and breaking apart, much like the left already did.

00:52:44.000 So what does an election look like moving forward?

00:52:47.000 Maybe it's, I'm not, I'm not even playing.

00:52:50.000 We will come to a point where there will be a Republican candidate in the primary.

00:52:53.000 Look at this, Jenk Uger defending Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:52:57.000 I would not be surprised if in 2027, there's a Republican primary candidate who is an American working class pro-populist guy who says that we do not want to be involved in these foreign wars.

00:53:12.000 We should be about working for the working class, good paying jobs.

00:53:16.000 And then you get the young Turks being like, we're voting Republican. 0.99

00:53:19.000 But then at the same time, the Republican primary is also going to have the pro-Israel neocon who says we need to have a military presence in the Middle East.

00:53:29.000 And your traditional Republicans are voting for that.

00:53:31.000 And then this is one of the theories people have been throwing around online.

00:53:34.000 The left gets flattened.

00:53:36.000 Democrats are dead.

00:53:37.000 The Republican Party splits into two parties and becomes Democrat, Republican, or the equivalent of.

00:53:42.000 I think the worst phenomenon that's happening right now is this scapegoating.

00:53:46.000 Just like we mentioned, we got to have an enemy at all times.

00:53:49.000 And as soon as we eradicate this enemy thinking and we think in terms of we can have a discussion with each other, I think that would be positive for all of us.

00:53:57.000 So maybe there will be a day when even somebody like JD Vance has a conversation with Nick Fuentes, and maybe they will completely disagree.

00:54:07.000 But at least we get an actual picture of what they agree and what they disagree on.

00:54:13.000 So then for voters, it's got to be easier to identify, oh, this is actually what I like to align myself with more.

00:54:19.000 Because otherwise you're going to have people who just watch Nick Fuentes' show or just listen to the other side.

00:54:24.000 And then they never actually get to see the real people behind it because they constantly just watch small clips that the other side pulled somewhere from the internet from them.

00:54:33.000 Or AI.

00:54:34.000 I mean, maybe actually where we're going is back in time.

00:54:37.000 Remember when Hillary Clinton was at that rally in 2015 or whatever and she used a southern accent?

00:54:42.000 Yes.

00:54:42.000 The video went viral because they were like, who's she fooling?

00:54:44.000 Well, code switching.

00:54:46.000 She's fooling everyone there who doesn't go online, doesn't watch these clips.

00:54:49.000 With AI, people are going to largely distrust a lot of these videos.

00:54:53.000 And then you can never believe anything.

00:54:55.000 Then if you're a politician, you'll go back to the old days where you show up in person and you talk like this, say, listen, you vote for me and I'm going to be there for you.

00:55:04.000 And then you go to New York and say, listen, you talk to me and I got what you need.

00:55:07.000 And then when the video pops up online of you talking with a fake ex, nobody, that's fake AI.

00:55:11.000 No, you region specific the clip so you have an AI voice and different accents for wherever the video is being played.

00:55:18.000 Yeah, I mean, Democrats do that now.

00:55:18.000 And that's possible.

00:55:20.000 You could do that on YouTube.

00:55:22.000 Talking about granular, how did you say?

00:55:25.000 Granularization.

00:55:27.000 I was talking today.

00:55:29.000 I did this clip on Gavin Newsom, who's gathering a bunch of support right now from Hollywood donors, you know.

00:55:35.000 potentially going towards a run in 2028.

00:55:38.000 And it was very funny because at that same time, they're saying, look, we like the way he's pushing back on Trump.

00:55:42.000 He's got to fight back on Trump, which doesn't make any sense because Trump's not going to be running in 2028, but be that what it is.

00:55:48.000 Then Hallie Berry comes out and says, no, he can't be president because he's not strong enough on women in menopause.

00:55:55.000 He's good on abortion.

00:55:56.000 He's good on families, but he's not good enough on menopause.

00:56:01.000 So this one specific issue is so important to her that she's going to tell however many millions of followers she has on social media that you shouldn't vote for this guy because he doesn't support middle-aged women to the extent that I would like.

00:56:13.000 Holly Berry said that?

00:56:14.000 Ali Berry, yeah.

00:56:14.000 Good grief.

00:56:16.000 Good grief. 0.87

00:56:17.000 That's, I mean, I feel like that's so ridiculous that the fact that people know that she said it is a bad thing. 0.79

00:56:26.000 Like, no one should pay attention. 0.68

00:56:28.000 She said it right before he went out on stage.

00:56:30.000 They were at the same time.

00:56:31.000 Good grief. 0.86

00:56:32.000 Oh, so you hate women in menopause? 0.96

00:56:34.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:56:36.000 Pretty much. 0.99

00:56:37.000 I mean, I hate all women generally. 1.00

00:56:38.000 Oh, and a sense of specific. 0.99

00:56:40.000 Especially the ones with the money.

00:56:40.000 Equality.

00:56:41.000 Equality for the women.

00:56:42.000 That's right.

00:56:42.000 Yes.

00:56:43.000 I hate everyone equally.

00:56:45.000 That's right. 1.00

00:56:47.000 The world was better back when you assumed that when somebody was being a jerk, that they were just a jerk and being mean just because the person was a dick, not because they needed a specific group. 0.99

00:56:57.000 The world was better in a lot of ways back when there was one channel to watch and everyone agreed. 0.99

00:57:03.000 But the problem with that thinking is while it's technically true that we all agree with each other, they were lying to us the whole time about everything.

00:57:11.000 And so what it really was was that ignorance was bliss.

00:57:14.000 And as long as the broadcast narrator of the state told you what was true, you agreed with it.

00:57:20.000 Now we're in a world where anybody can say whatever they want on any platform and everyone's fighting.

00:57:24.000 I mean, it's why the shows that were popular were popular at that time because you didn't have that many choices.

00:57:29.000 So certain shows became appointment television.

00:57:32.000 And with AI content creation and just the amount of content emerging across social media, it's becoming impossible for anybody to have a unified worldview.

00:57:43.000 Let me tell you, it's not better to just have one channel or just a few channels.

00:57:47.000 Coming from somebody who's from Germany, we pay taxes for the state media, meaning we have actual communist media.

00:57:53.000 And if you watch that, everybody tunes in at 8 p.m. to watch the news in Germany.

00:57:58.000 And it looks communist.

00:58:00.000 It's not entertaining.

00:58:02.000 If you watch Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, yeah, even MSNBC, even though it's bad, but it is somewhat entertaining.

00:58:08.000 At least they put on a show.

00:58:10.000 At least they're trying to be intriguing towards the people who are watching.

00:58:14.000 But in Germany, we just watch the news.

00:58:17.000 The news.

00:58:17.000 There's one channel, essentially.

00:58:18.000 You tune in every night at 8 p.m.

00:58:21.000 They have the highest ratings because that's what we pay taxes for.

00:58:24.000 We have to pay taxes for it.

00:58:26.000 Even if you don't have a TV, even if you don't have a radio, you have to pay taxes for it.

00:58:29.000 If you have multiple radios, you have to pay twice or more times than twice.

00:58:33.000 So it's pretty intense.

00:58:35.000 And the majority of Germans are actually against it.

00:58:38.000 They do not want to pay these taxes.

00:58:40.000 But the thing is that the government and the parties that are in favor of these media taxes, they will be covered favorably by the media.

00:58:49.000 So it's good for them to promote the state media.

00:58:52.000 And that's why it's such a communist system.

00:58:54.000 That's why it's increasingly harder for alternative media to get any recognition.

00:58:59.000 This is why now people who are more alternative and support the opposition, they are going on social media.

00:59:04.000 Going on X. Twitter was super unpopular before Elon Musk, but since he's been promoting the AFD, now X is becoming very popular in Germany too.

00:59:13.000 So I just want to make the case here for more media diversity.

00:59:16.000 I know it's extremely difficult to even find what's the truth anymore.

00:59:22.000 But I think the most important thing, the best thing that you can do is to go back to your internal values.

00:59:27.000 Just understand what you stand for, what your family stands for.

00:59:31.000 Find a community, find real friends.

00:59:33.000 Maybe read a book every now and then.

00:59:35.000 And then you need to go back to what your intuition tells you.

00:59:39.000 And yeah, do your research is very easy to say.

00:59:42.000 It's hard to do.

00:59:44.000 But if you get yourself some form of good education, that doesn't mean to go to college necessarily.

00:59:50.000 It means understanding the real world and being very observant of the real world.

00:59:54.000 And I think you have a good chance at life.

00:59:56.000 Well, let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen, the mega rift.

00:59:59.000 Now you've got Nick Fuentes calling out Candace Owens.

01:00:03.000 The story is that Turning Point USA issued a rebuttal to everything Candace says.

01:00:08.000 Likely, this was triggered by Candace calling on people to ask for refunds of their donations to Turning Point USA, which is probably apocalyptic for Turning Point USA and can very much destroy Turning Point.

01:00:23.000 They apparently offered for her to come on the show.

01:00:26.000 She agreed.

01:00:27.000 And then when they said, okay, here's where we're doing it, she responded with kind of weird how you didn't email or call me to ask about times or availability and chose instead to tweet this confirmation out at midnight.

01:00:37.000 Nick Fuentes responds, you were invited to Turning Point USA HQ to press their leadership live and in person about their role in Charlie Kirk's murder, but you can't go because of a scheduling conflict, LOL.

01:00:50.000 Isn't this what you've been pushing for since September?

01:00:52.000 Time to put up or shut up?

01:00:54.000 Candace says, you spent over a year attacking me on your show.

01:00:58.000 I finally said, okay, come on to my show.

01:01:00.000 You responded and said Wednesday worked better for your schedule.

01:01:04.000 Stop being a fraud.

01:01:05.000 If I'd instead publicly tweeted, Nick refused to debate, I would have been disingenuous.

01:01:09.000 Nick said, you said TPUSA could pick the time and place they did.

01:01:14.000 You've been milking your investigation for three months.

01:01:17.000 Now is your opportunity to blow the lid on everything and you're going to no show.

01:01:22.000 What could possibly be the excuse?

01:01:25.000 You owe it to your fans.

01:01:26.000 The excuse is she was always lying, right?

01:01:31.000 One of the things that Turning Point brought up was that early on in her investigation, she made a point about men in maroon shirts and then dropped that and moved on and never brought it back up.

01:01:42.000 Or Egyptian planes flying around, which is never proven.

01:01:46.000 She then made claims that these planes were landing at airports where federal vehicles were driving to a law office and she vetted the person but never proved anything about what these planes were actually doing.

01:01:56.000 Then it turns out her own lawyers are working in the same building as the feds.

01:02:01.000 But people love the drama, the true crime, and the mystery.

01:02:06.000 You know what she's really done?

01:02:08.000 She has turned news podcasting into lost.

01:02:12.000 Always end your show on a cliffhanger.

01:02:15.000 Never resolve it and keep people hooked.

01:02:18.000 It is the mystery box of podcasts.

01:02:20.000 And now that she's given the opportunity to go and put the nail in the coffin, she can't do it.

01:02:26.000 So she's JJ Abrams?

01:02:29.000 I guess.

01:02:30.000 What did he do?

01:02:31.000 Created lost.

01:02:32.000 No, but I mean, did he actually write it and plan it out or what?

01:02:35.000 He's famous for the mystery box.

01:02:37.000 Yeah.

01:02:38.000 So why not now finally go and confront them about all of these things?

01:02:43.000 Well, she's got an hour-long show to record for her fans to have them guess.

01:02:47.000 I'm just kidding.

01:02:48.000 There's no freaking way.

01:02:50.000 Mystery box podcast.

01:02:51.000 Yeah, she spent months going after this story, and she can't take a couple hours of her day to miss one tiny show to go and actually confront these people in person, like she wants to do, like she says she's going to do.

01:03:02.000 I'm sure that they'd allow her to co-stream it, you know, stream to her people as well as theirs.

01:03:07.000 And look, she's made enough allusions to accusations that this should be the opportunity for her to, you know, go and clear all this up and, you know, find the bad guys or point at the bad guys.

01:03:20.000 I think that this kind of speaks to the fact that it is kind of just a bunch of like, you know, isn't this strange?

01:03:26.000 Isn't this odd?

01:03:27.000 You know, she does a lot of pointing and saying, look, look, look, but there's no substance there. 0.54

01:03:32.000 And I think if there was substance, she would be, you know, jumping at this opportunity.

01:03:36.000 Indeed.

01:03:36.000 And that was kind of the point that Turning Point made when they were like, she keeps abandoning key points of this investigation and then never coming back to it.

01:03:44.000 It's been three months.

01:03:46.000 Even now, Nick Fuentes pointing it out.

01:03:48.000 What's happening on the right seems to be maybe Candace is intentionally playing the heel to unite everyone against her. 1.00

01:03:55.000 It's like the weirdest thing now.

01:03:57.000 It's selfless, right?

01:03:57.000 Self-list.

01:03:58.000 I've got, check this out.

01:04:01.000 Since she started doing this arc, our PR people have been getting inundated by mainstream media reporters.

01:04:09.000 They've been texting me like crazy.

01:04:11.000 They're asking us to give our, it's the weirdest thing ever that all of a sudden the corporate press is like, we're interested in this rift.

01:04:19.000 We want more press on it.

01:04:21.000 And I'm like, is the point to just get like all of the regular conservatives to have to find their villain?

01:04:29.000 So she's not JJ Abrams.

01:04:31.000 She's Vince McMahon during the Stone Cold Steve Austin era. 0.99

01:04:35.000 I have no idea what that means.

01:04:36.000 I do.

01:04:37.000 You're right.

01:04:38.000 Okay, that's all.

01:04:38.000 It is.

01:04:39.000 Tim, you should make a poll for the chat, Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens.

01:04:43.000 Oh, that's a good idea.

01:04:44.000 Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens.

01:04:46.000 So we did a poll, and I said Brian Cole is the bomber, or no way, it's a cover-up.

01:04:52.000 And Cover-Up won with 53% to 47 that Cole is the bomber.

01:04:57.000 It's pretty even.

01:04:58.000 It's pretty split.

01:05:00.000 Let's do a new poll.

01:05:03.000 Let's get it.

01:05:06.000 Whose side are you on chat?

01:05:08.000 Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens.

01:05:12.000 I mean, it's interesting because I honestly have no idea how this one's going to play out.

01:05:16.000 They generally like both of them.

01:05:16.000 I don't know.

01:05:18.000 Yes.

01:05:19.000 The chat seems to be very broke. 0.92

01:05:21.000 This is the issue I take with this stupid debate about like Tucker and Nick and these TradCon people who are like, I don't want to work with Nick. 0.85

01:05:28.000 He's moderated on so many issues. 0.98

01:05:30.000 Yeah.

01:05:31.000 And he's even admitted this.

01:05:33.000 Now he's doing more press shows.

01:05:35.000 He's acknowledged that being abrasive and trolly and that has been bad for him.

01:05:40.000 And now he's, I guess, getting older and realizing how to effectively grow and expand his opportunity.

01:05:49.000 Nick Fuentes is 81, 80% crushing.

01:05:53.000 Wow.

01:05:54.000 Nick called her out pretty good here.

01:05:55.000 I've seen him on Steven Crowder today, and that was a pretty.

01:05:59.000 Was he also calling her out?

01:06:00.000 They didn't really, they got into it themselves.

01:06:02.000 It was a little call out, but it wasn't a big call out.

01:06:05.000 We're still waiting for Nick to come on this show.

01:06:06.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:07.000 We're going to get him on.

01:06:08.000 Well, I mean, he was scheduled and then he canceled off.

01:06:10.000 Are we doing culture war with Nick?

01:06:12.000 No, no, sure.

01:06:13.000 Yeah.

01:06:13.000 Okay.

01:06:14.000 That'll be fun.

01:06:14.000 Yeah.

01:06:15.000 Anyone want to come on?

01:06:16.000 Come on, Nick.

01:06:17.000 He said he had a scheduling thing happen.

01:06:18.000 I said, okay, you know what?

01:06:19.000 We'll do your thing, I guess.

01:06:20.000 How much time did you have to spend watching the Candace shows to like, because the thing is, is like with all of this type of drama, like once you can miss one day and you're completely lost about anything that's going on because there's so much lore behind all of this stuff.

01:06:34.000 Like I immediately disengage because I don't want to go back through and listen to 8,000, look through 8,000 threads of people arguing about this stuff.

01:06:41.000 I just don't care.

01:06:42.000 Like, I just don't.

01:06:43.000 You know, there's always going to be a challenge if you're trying to be honest in media.

01:06:52.000 You're never going to succeed.

01:06:53.000 Like, I shouldn't say that.

01:06:56.000 You're going to have a hard go of it.

01:06:57.000 I think there's a reason why Steven Crowder has maintained such strong viewership while many others have faltered.

01:07:04.000 And I think it's because he generally does his thing, believes in himself, focuses on his message and mission, stays true.

01:07:13.000 But there are a lot of people who are substantially more successful or who, you know, come and go, like Candace being a really great example of a meteoric rise through, I don't know, like unscrupulous manipulation.

01:07:27.000 If you are going to, it's a hard thing to do.

01:07:31.000 Politicians, you're never going to get elected if you're actually telling people the truth.

01:07:34.000 It's just not going to happen.

01:07:36.000 Imagine a politician running for Congress being like, guys, Social Security will be insolvent by 2034, and we don't have the population size to actually pay into it to keep it at current levels.

01:07:47.000 That means that only what goes into it will come out.

01:07:50.000 So we expect a drop of around 30%.

01:07:53.000 This means your checks will diminish.

01:07:55.000 However, there are a couple of solutions.

01:07:57.000 Because the younger generation isn't large enough to pay the taxes on this, we could increase taxes on Gen Z, and that will be able, that'll make it so that we can increase the payouts, or we can bring in as many migrants as possible in whatever way we can so that we can bring in more working individuals into the tax base. 0.98

01:08:18.000 And then everyone gets mad.

01:08:21.000 They want you to come and just say, I will fix Social Security.

01:08:24.000 I'm going to fight for it.

01:08:25.000 I'm going to fight for you and your Social Security and your Medicaid.

01:08:28.000 And they go, okay, that's all that mattered to me.

01:08:30.000 And what does that even mean to fight for it?

01:08:32.000 It doesn't mean anything.

01:08:33.000 Nothing.

01:08:33.000 It doesn't mean anything.

01:08:34.000 It's hope and change.

01:08:34.000 It's the same exact thing.

01:08:36.000 So what I love about Candace's show is, you know, the easiest example is that guy, Wolves in Finance, where he was like, why are they giving money to a parking lot?

01:08:45.000 And it's like, man, if you're reading comprehension is third grade, you fall for this stuff.

01:08:52.000 Again, like I was, I looked through one thread last night about the Candace stuff, and it was somebody saying, like, I think they want to get her in the studio so they can scope out her security.

01:09:02.000 I was like, bro, I have to go.

01:09:04.000 I just signed off my phone.

01:09:05.000 I'm like, I don't have it in me to read this stuff.

01:09:08.000 Like, I don't know if there are turning point assassins, but if that is a thing, then God help us all.

01:09:13.000 Well, she did it to us. 1.00

01:09:16.000 And, you know, I'm not surprised here.

01:09:17.000 I was actually, I take that back.

01:09:19.000 I'm actually surprised she even responded twice now.

01:09:21.000 Even had me on her show.

01:09:22.000 Look at that.

01:09:23.000 But, you know, if your show is about drama and you need some drama, then, you know, she'll take what she can get.

01:09:30.000 But when we were talking about her making $10 million per year on this show, someone took that clip, cut out the part where I explicitly stated she has a large audience because, you know, it's appealing to a wider base and that she has a lot of female viewers.

01:09:46.000 They cut that out, lied and claimed we said that she was botting her audience and it was all fake.

01:09:51.000 She then reposts it. 0.97

01:09:54.000 And this is the game.

01:09:55.000 This is, you know, so the challenge that I think we have in whatever space we occupy is scruples.

01:10:03.000 I'm not going to lie about Candace for the sake of getting views, but there's a tremendous opportunity right now.

01:10:09.000 Because Candace wants to play this conspiracy dark world game, we could absolutely play back because she's brought us into her world.

01:10:17.000 She had me, she, you know, I ranted against her and then I had the media blowing my phone up trying to talk to me about it. 0.99

01:10:23.000 And I called her a scumbag. 1.00

01:10:24.000 She had me on her show today showing the clip, which gives us a tremendous opportunity that if we played the same game as her, I could leak text messages, oh, the things I've heard about Candace Owens. 0.98

01:10:35.000 But my view of her is largely that she's unscrupulous and willing to manipulate intentionally for money. 1.00

01:10:42.000 Based on the messages I've seen from her, I could accuse her of killing Charlie Kirk.

01:10:46.000 I'm not even exaggerating.

01:10:47.000 The messages that I've seen of Candace could easily be misconstrued to say that she had the biggest reason to murder Charlie because he ousted her from Turning Point.

01:10:57.000 And she wants revenge, but she didn't know how to go up against Charlie.

01:11:01.000 But I don't actually believe that.

01:11:02.000 I don't think that's the case at all.

01:11:04.000 I think she obviously was mad over a lot of things.

01:11:07.000 I think she loved Charlie.

01:11:08.000 I think she was in love with him.

01:11:10.000 And now she wants to burn down Turning Point because she's, what do they call it? Second wife syndrome. 1.00

01:11:15.000 She's the jilted lover who is friend zoned, who is Charlie Kirk's wingman, who had that romantic text exchange with him that she was showing off.

01:11:23.000 And now she wants to burn everything down in revenge. 1.00

01:11:27.000 That's what I really think.

01:11:29.000 There have been people who have made the joke that you could easily take statements she's made and insinuate she had Charlie murdered and statements from people at Turning Point about how they feared Candace and what she was going to do.

01:11:42.000 So let me put it like this.

01:11:44.000 After Candace was ousted from Turning Point, you know, she was no longer a speaker at, I think it was the end of 23.

01:11:50.000 I'm not entirely sure.

01:11:51.000 She remained friends with Charlie, but stopped doing events with Turning Point.

01:11:55.000 And some people have argued it's because of her stance on Israel.

01:11:58.000 I don't know if that's the case.

01:12:00.000 But there are people at Turning Point expressing fear over what Candace would do to them if they actually ever got into a drama bit with her over her being ousted.

01:12:11.000 And so they needed to keep her close, but not too far. 0.85

01:12:14.000 Some of these emails and these statements, you could easily be like, this proves Candace was trying to kill Charlie the whole time because it's all vague murder mystery garbage.

01:12:22.000 The question is, who's really going to believe it?

01:12:24.000 I don't know.

01:12:25.000 But that's exactly what she does. 0.98

01:12:26.000 One example is like the Mikey McCoy thing.

01:12:29.000 He got on his phone right after Charlie was shot.

01:12:30.000 That proves it.

01:12:31.000 And it's like, it literally means nothing.

01:12:33.000 We have no idea what it means.

01:12:35.000 She's insinuated that they denied Charlie first aid, that it was an inside job, all of this crazy nonsense because it is lost.

01:12:44.000 Like, what big show do we have?

01:12:45.000 She's, you know what she's really good at? 0.99

01:12:47.000 She basically figured out how to make that Game of Thrones herself. 1.00

01:12:51.000 Very, very, very well done.

01:12:52.000 And if you are unscrupulous and your biggest concern is how many live viewers you have, then you will be Candace Owens and you will brag about it.

01:13:01.000 Good for her, I guess.

01:13:02.000 I think she's evil. 0.99

01:13:03.000 I think she's scummy. 1.00

01:13:05.000 But, you know, that's why I look at the success she has, why I called it demoralizing, you know, two or three weeks ago, because we are trying to build a coalition to save this country. 0.65

01:13:16.000 She's trying to build a coalition so she can make money and sell ads. 1.00

01:13:20.000 And she's effectively destroying the political coalition that wants to see a victory to stave off this crazy immigration crisis, to help Gen Z and the working class buy homes and bring prices down. 0.95

01:13:33.000 Her thing is just vagary after vagary, distraction, distraction, distraction, and burn down the one organization that actually unified various political factions to help Donald Trump win the election. 1.00

01:13:45.000 Maybe she's born with the Democrats the whole time.

01:13:47.000 That's why her lawyers work with the feds. 1.00

01:13:49.000 Well, I mean, she was a Democrat before, so. 0.68

01:13:52.000 I'm starting to think that she has lost all sensitivity to what is ethical at this point to promote on her show because all the conspiracy theories that she's pulling out, maybe there's some validity, a fraction of validities to something that she has said at some point.

01:14:07.000 But now she's drowning everything in so many allegations, accusations that just do not make any sense whatsoever.

01:14:14.000 So there's nothing that is believable anymore anymore.

01:14:17.000 And I don't even know if she understands the kind of impact that she's having.

01:14:22.000 And I think maybe you think that she's fully aware of it and that she knows exactly what she's doing.

01:14:26.000 She's very smart.

01:14:27.000 Okay.

01:14:28.000 I do think that she's very smart for sure.

01:14:30.000 Otherwise, she wouldn't have this great show, great in the sense that she has a lot of views, obviously.

01:14:36.000 But at the same time, I think she has become completely insensitive to how people are perceiving her.

01:14:42.000 I think she just thinks that she's just, yeah, she is the ideal, the queen behind what she's promoting.

01:14:50.000 And she doesn't quite take in what kind of impact it has on her views, but also what kind of impact it has on Charlie and the family and the legacy that he left behind, because I don't think that Charlie would have wanted any of this.

01:15:01.000 Well, I mean, I completely agree.

01:15:01.000 That's part of why.

01:15:04.000 I think the idea that Charlie would want her to advocate everyone pull their donations from the organization he built ridiculous. 0.59

01:15:11.000 No one hates Charlie more than Candace Owens.

01:15:13.000 Let me say that very, very clearly.

01:15:15.000 I want to say it straight to the camera for all of her biggest fans, and then she can grab this clip and put on her show. 0.99

01:15:20.000 I do think it's absolutely hilarious that we're substantially smaller shows than hers, but she brought us up anyway.

01:15:25.000 So thanks for saying my name, Candace.

01:15:28.000 No one hated Charlie Kirk more than Candace Owens.

01:15:32.000 She reviles him.

01:15:33.000 She spits on his grave, and she smiles while doing it. 1.00

01:15:39.000 Okay, quote over.

01:15:40.000 And I'll say this because Charlie spent his life building out these organizations.

01:15:46.000 Candace is doing everything in her power to tear them down. 0.99

01:15:49.000 She hates Charlie. 0.91

01:15:51.000 She hates what Charlie built and she wants it to burn. 0.99

01:15:55.000 She hates Charlie's family. 0.90

01:15:56.000 She hates Charlie's friends.

01:15:58.000 She's accused them of killing him.

01:16:00.000 She's accused his wife of having knowledge of these events.

01:16:04.000 And then she comes out and says, I never said that.

01:16:06.000 Not in the literal sense, but there's literally no other logical conclusion to what you're saying.

01:16:11.000 So when I look at Colvet and Bowyer and Blake and Erica and the people who work at Turning Point, and I say, you know, maybe they're not handling things properly and they don't know what to do with Charlie was doing.

01:16:27.000 There's fears that Turning Point can't make it without Charlie.

01:16:29.000 All of that is them trying to make Turning Point survive.

01:16:33.000 Candace is advocating you abandon Turning Point USA.

01:16:38.000 It's kind of remarkable to see, but let's just do the logic here.

01:16:43.000 Simple question for all of you.

01:16:45.000 Throw it in the chat.

01:16:47.000 Who do you think cares more about Turning Point?

01:16:50.000 The people trying to salvage and save it or the woman telling everybody to pull their donations?

01:16:56.000 Then you can ask yourself this.

01:16:58.000 If Charlie were alive today, what do you think he'd be saying about all of this?

01:17:04.000 Do you think he would say, I don't trust my wife and my best friends to run my organization?

01:17:10.000 Or do you think he'd be saying, Candace should burn down Turning Point USA?

01:17:16.000 I think the reality is a lot of people who follow Candace, they're masquerading much like the woke do.

01:17:22.000 They don't really care about Turning Point.

01:17:24.000 They want to watch it all burn down.

01:17:26.000 They want to see Turning Point go belly up because they're nihilists.

01:17:30.000 I'm not saying literally everybody who watches her, but in what reality does it make sense that Charlie would want Candace to burn Turning Point to the ground?

01:17:39.000 It makes no sense.

01:17:40.000 None at all.

01:17:41.000 And in what reality does this help us win a political victory moving into a midterm year?

01:17:47.000 It doesn't.

01:17:48.000 So I tell you this, my friends.

01:17:50.000 Yeah, I'll put it like this.

01:17:52.000 I got asked about why we weren't invited to Turning Point USA.

01:17:56.000 And they've since invited us back, whatever, but I said, I'm not going.

01:18:00.000 We've got prior commitments.

01:18:01.000 I was asked by basically every mainstream news organization.

01:18:04.000 Oh, what's going on?

01:18:05.000 The mega riff.

01:18:06.000 They all want to know.

01:18:07.000 Intention doesn't matter.

01:18:09.000 Emotion doesn't matter.

01:18:11.000 Only the outcome matters.

01:18:14.000 And if Turning Point USA does not want Timcast IRL, disaffected urban liberals on its stage prime time on Friday and instead wants to book four conservatives wearing suits to talk about conservative values.

01:18:29.000 It is their prerogative, but the outcome is the only thing that matters.

01:18:33.000 They can hate me.

01:18:34.000 They can love me.

01:18:35.000 Don't care.

01:18:36.000 The question is, if this is the direction of Turning Point, what do they look like a year from now?

01:18:42.000 Will it be a big tent organization that brings in liberals, moderates, conservatives, libertarians to form a coalition?

01:18:49.000 Or will it be conservatives having an event to talk amongst each other?

01:18:55.000 I say the same thing of Candace Owens.

01:18:57.000 I don't care about what her intent is, her emotional state.

01:19:00.000 I care about the outcome.

01:19:02.000 If Candace Owens' actions and requests are to pull the donations from Turning Point and malign the people involved with it so that no one wants to be involved, the question then becomes, what will Turning Point be a year from now?

01:19:16.000 And if Candace's actions say anything and she succeeds, Turning Point will have been destroyed.

01:19:22.000 Charlie's legacy gone.

01:19:24.000 Everything he built erased and but a memory.

01:19:28.000 That is what Candace is working towards because she hates Charlie Kirk.

01:19:33.000 You know what I think it is?

01:19:35.000 When I was, I learned an important moral lesson when I was very young.

01:19:39.000 My dad told me that some people like being upset.

01:19:43.000 And I was confused by that as a young child.

01:19:45.000 How can you enjoy being upset?

01:19:48.000 It's the antithesis.

01:19:50.000 It's not.

01:19:51.000 Some people want to be angry.

01:19:54.000 They want to cry.

01:19:55.000 They want to be the victim.

01:19:58.000 That's the world they want to live in.

01:20:00.000 So while I can say Candace Owens was in love with Charlie Kirk, and this is based on me watching her show, the romance drama, the thing she mentioned about choosing his clothes and all the stuff and how she loved him and all of that stuff.

01:20:12.000 She literally says it.

01:20:13.000 I mean, she doesn't say she was in love, right?

01:20:16.000 But you look at that and then you look at her being rejected from the organization, which is true. 0.68

01:20:20.000 You can read all about it.

01:20:21.000 I guess the issue was that she was critical of Israel and so they didn't want to have her there.

01:20:25.000 She's offended.

01:20:26.000 And then think about what a jilted lover can do. 1.00

01:20:30.000 How often have you heard the story of the jilted lover who then murdered the woman who rejected him?

01:20:35.000 It happens all the time.

01:20:35.000 Usually it's a guy killing the woman.

01:20:37.000 When I see what Candace is doing, I see rejection, jealousy, anger. 0.90

01:20:43.000 And now that Charlie's gone, she wants revenge.

01:20:46.000 I don't understand why else you dedicate three months to vagaries with the only purpose is stop supporting Turning Point USA.

01:20:56.000 The excuse they want to give, and I love this, is that the only reason I'm criticizing Candace is because I'm trying to get back in the good graces of Turning Point USA.

01:21:04.000 I'm the one who made the video saying I'm not going.

01:21:07.000 They invited me back and I said, no, I don't want to go.

01:21:09.000 I'm not going to go.

01:21:10.000 It is what it is.

01:21:11.000 They can do whatever they want.

01:21:12.000 I live in a totally different world and I hate the political grifter class and everything that's going on with this stuff.

01:21:18.000 But you know what?

01:21:19.000 Why it's important, some of you may be saying, what is the reason to talk about this?

01:21:23.000 Why is this in the news again?

01:21:25.000 This is 1.2 million views from Nick Fuentes.

01:21:29.000 There are questions right now in every major media organization.

01:21:32.000 What is going to happen in the midterms?

01:21:35.000 And the people that once stood together are now all fighting with each other.

01:21:39.000 And I got to tell you, I am blackpilled on politics right now.

01:21:44.000 Trump talking about H-1Bs and Chinese visas.

01:21:47.000 I'm like, okay, well, why am I sticking my neck out in this way?

01:21:51.000 Why am I running the risk of the DOJ under the Biden administration threatening me and my family for people like Candace Owens?

01:21:58.000 Why would I want to do that?

01:22:00.000 Or the people who believe in what she says when she lies and burns down everything Charlie stood for?

01:22:06.000 Why would I want to be involved in that?

01:22:08.000 Bro, I'd much rather live in a van down by the river.

01:22:13.000 There's a reason why this has never been the biggest podcast in the world, why I don't take the political route and pursue it the way most of these people do, why we don't have PR crafting messages or writing scripts for me.

01:22:25.000 And there's a reason why there's been periods where we've burned tons of subscribers, standing up for people that many people hated. 0.86

01:22:32.000 Because I've always just said what I thought and I'm not playing any stupid PR games.

01:22:37.000 And I've always said, if that means people don't follow me, I appreciate you following me as long as you did. 0.88

01:22:41.000 I'm going to go live in a van down by the river with a smile on my face.

01:22:45.000 This is what the political space is turning into.

01:22:47.000 We had a good run for the past seven or eight years where a coalition formed and people said we agree on these things and we have to stop the woke psychopathy.

01:22:56.000 Candace now represents psychopathic grifter content and cultism more than anything else we've seen on the left. 1.00

01:23:03.000 And she is the biggest threat to the coalition, the right and our victories that we're trying to attain in 2026 and 2028. 0.58

01:23:10.000 It's her.

01:23:11.000 Democrats are no real threat, to be completely honest, because they don't stand for anything.

01:23:15.000 Even among internal Democrat polling, they don't agree with each other.

01:23:19.000 Internal Democrat polling now says Democrats are more interested in identity issues than actual economic issues.

01:23:25.000 Okay.

01:23:25.000 The Republicans have an opportunity to buck the historic trend and win the midterms when they already control the House, the Senate, and the executive branch.

01:23:34.000 What's the biggest threat to our potential victory?

01:23:37.000 Candace Owens.

01:23:39.000 Even Nick Fuentes is calling her out.

01:23:41.000 That's how crazy it's gotten.

01:23:42.000 So I tell you this, my friends.

01:23:44.000 If that's the direction we're really going to go in the next year or so, I don't see how we win if the right is composed of two different political worldviews.

01:23:54.000 This means you're going to have the Democrat cultists, the MAGA right, and the Candace right or whatever you want to call it.

01:24:02.000 And Democrats will get the edge and win.

01:24:05.000 I mean, I think that the Democrats are going to win anyways, like regardless of this kind of stuff.

01:24:10.000 I think that all signs are indicating that, unless there's some midterms, yeah.

01:24:15.000 Because, I mean, all signs are indicating that, and I don't see any significant uptick in the economy on the horizon.

01:24:21.000 There's a time where, you know, there's a lot of people that say, you know, it's bad that the Republicans have always been, you know, graph go up.

01:24:30.000 And I understand that that argument.

01:24:32.000 But if the graph isn't going up, if people don't feel like their money is able, you know, can pay for groceries, they can't pay their bills, people are definitely going to vote for the other team.

01:24:43.000 Or stay home.

01:24:44.000 Or stay home.

01:24:45.000 Well, I mean, they'll make sure that the people in power lose, whether that means they don't go out and support them or they go out and they actually vote against them.

01:24:53.000 Gas prices have been down.

01:24:55.000 Gas prices are down, and that has an effect on the economy.

01:24:59.000 But the prices overall, like they haven't gone down.

01:25:03.000 And the fact that Donald Trump is doing the same thing that Joe Biden was doing and saying, no, you're wrong about what you're experiencing at the grocery store.

01:25:11.000 You're wrong about what you're experiencing when you're trying to pay your bills and stuff.

01:25:16.000 That is bad news.

01:25:17.000 So this kind of stuff, I think it's bad for the coalition.

01:25:20.000 I think that it's bad for whatever you want to call the MAGA coalition.

01:25:24.000 But I think at the end of the day, this stuff is still a distraction.

01:25:28.000 And I think part of the reason why this stuff is going on is because there isn't actual big, tangible victories that people can actually talk about.

01:25:37.000 So they're just, people are blackpilling.

01:25:38.000 They're saying things aren't getting done.

01:25:40.000 And then you end up with this kind of stuff getting oxygen.

01:25:44.000 Well, I mean, Candace has created a murder mystery drama that seeks to destroy Turning Point, which was pivotal in Trump's victory in 2024. 1.00

01:25:54.000 So this is the biggest threat that the right faces in actually stopping the communist rise on the left.

01:26:00.000 Saying that Candace herself is the biggest threat right now, I think is giving her way too much power. 0.98

01:26:06.000 She has 165,000 background views.

01:26:08.000 Yeah, I know.

01:26:08.000 I am absolutely agreeing with you.

01:26:10.000 But what she's doing is she's creating a massive bubble and it's going to pop because what she's doing is not sustainable. 1.00

01:26:15.000 At some point, all the lies are going to just blow up and everybody's going to find out that they have been wasting a bunch of time on fairy tales.

01:26:23.000 And that's it.

01:26:24.000 And I, yeah, right now it looks pretty bad.

01:26:26.000 But I think now even Nick Fuentes is calling her out.

01:26:30.000 I mean, I know that he's never been a big fan of her, but it's crucial that we're seeing this kind of divide right now because he's calling her out on something that's very valid.

01:26:38.000 He's calling out the hypocrisy and that she has gaps in her logic.

01:26:41.000 There is no logic.

01:26:42.000 There is no consensus in anything that she's promoting anymore.

01:26:45.000 And I think that's the biggest issue.

01:26:46.000 And at some point, we've got to get back to reasonable discussions because this is a distraction.

01:26:51.000 These are fairy tales, and fairy tales are very intriguing to a lot of people, but they will blow up at some point.

01:26:57.000 Because as soon as you have to face the facts, right now we're all very comfortable, so we don't have to face the facts.

01:27:03.000 So it's nice to get comfortable with a fairy tale, but this is not sustainable.

01:27:07.000 And so I do have to say, I gotta have to give Nick Fuentes a lot of credit for how he handled the death of Charlie Kirk.

01:27:17.000 Not just this, but I saw how he reacted, and he was genuinely grieving, even though he admitted that he didn't like Charlie Kirk while he was alive and he never had a good relationship with him.

01:27:30.000 They were basically enemies in a way, at least from a political perspective, but they were not enemies as people.

01:27:37.000 And he respected Charlie for what he was doing.

01:27:40.000 And he didn't fabricate any conspiracy theories around Tony Paul J.S.

01:27:44.000 And I think that is crucial.

01:27:46.000 That is way more important.

01:27:47.000 You know what?

01:27:48.000 I think you're right.

01:27:49.000 I have a new conspiracy theory.

01:27:51.000 Let's go.

01:27:52.000 After the death of Charlie Kirk, Candace realized there was no unifying force on the right.

01:27:58.000 So she decided that she can be that villain.

01:28:02.000 She can be that person because, you know, it's the hero.

01:28:05.000 What is it?

01:28:06.000 The hero that we need, not the one we deserve.

01:28:08.000 And so what's happening now is Nick Fuentes, Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, James Lindsay are all finding themselves standing side by side and criticizing Candace Owens.

01:28:19.000 She has become the Sauron of the army against the armies of Middle Earth. 0.87

01:28:25.000 And all of the weirdest political factions are now agreeing with each other because Candace is crazy. 1.00

01:28:31.000 Even the right and the woke right can come to that.

01:28:33.000 Yes.

01:28:35.000 It's no coincidence that this Nick tweets this after he did a two-and-hour, two and a half hour conversation with Steven Crowder to figure out their differences and how they can come together.

01:28:46.000 Yeah.

01:28:46.000 You know, I think that in the long run, Nick's audience and the message that Nick has, especially if he's moderating his message, that's something that young people are going to actually pay attention to.

01:29:00.000 And it speaks to things that young people actually care about.

01:29:03.000 I think that the stuff that Candace is talking about, I think that it is detrimental to the overall right.

01:29:09.000 And I think that it's basically just, you know, the view.

01:29:13.000 It's just like Tim says, it's just murder mystery stuff.

01:29:15.000 You know, it's just drama.

01:29:17.000 Indeed.

01:29:18.000 There needs to be a new Blake Lively type story that you're interested in so she can move on. 0.69

01:29:22.000 But she didn't even finish any of those murder mysteries, right?

01:29:25.000 Like the Blake Lively thing and a cliffhanger and then the Bridget McCrone stuff.

01:29:29.000 There's no resolution there.

01:29:30.000 I do think she's going to get vaporized. 1.00

01:29:32.000 Like to your points, Naomi, I think the Macron thing is apocalyptic for her.

01:29:39.000 And it's not because she's right or wrong.

01:29:41.000 It's because France is going through the motions, but you have a nation state at the highest level trying to shut down Candace Owens. 1.00

01:29:50.000 Donald Trump is not going to sacrifice foreign policy for Candace Owens.

01:29:55.000 So when France says we want this taken care of, I'd be willing to bet people in the State Department are like, file your lawsuit, we'll make sure you win.

01:30:03.000 And she's going to get summary judgment.

01:30:05.000 And it's going to be, they're going to Alex Jones her.

01:30:09.000 They're going to be like, we're taking your stuff.

01:30:11.000 This is the weirdest thing.

01:30:13.000 You know, I try to look at probabilities and how things make sense.

01:30:19.000 And Candace is very smart. 1.00

01:30:20.000 So, it makes no sense that she would intentionally expose herself to liability in this way with Bridget McCrone.

01:30:26.000 You'll notice that she makes a lot of statements about Turning Point that are relatively vague so that she doesn't expose herself to defamation liability.

01:30:33.000 Like when she said, quote, well, I shouldn't quote it, but she said, I'm paraphrasing something to the effect of, I can say with full confidence that I believe.

01:30:42.000 Right?

01:30:43.000 That's a legal statement.

01:30:44.000 So if I said something like, I made this point yesterday, but I'll say it for this right now.

01:30:50.000 I can confirm 100% that I feel Candace Owens killed Charlie Kirk. 0.54

01:30:56.000 She killed him. 0.84

01:30:59.000 Now, what did I really say?

01:31:01.000 You feel a certain thing.

01:31:02.000 I can confirm 100%.

01:31:04.000 I feel she killed Charlie Kirk.

01:31:06.000 You say it like that, and then if she ever tries to sue me, I'll be like, I just confirmed that I feel that way.

01:31:10.000 I'm allowed to feel that way.

01:31:11.000 That's not defamation.

01:31:12.000 That's a legalese.

01:31:13.000 She does things like that. 1.00

01:31:14.000 On the Bridget McCrone thing, it's defamation per se.

01:31:17.000 You can't accuse someone of having some kind of disgusting ailment.

01:31:20.000 That's the words they use in the law. 0.87

01:31:22.000 She's going to lose that. 0.99

01:31:24.000 She has to have known she's going to lose this.

01:31:27.000 And if that's the case, why do it?

01:31:30.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:31:34.000 And also, maybe she believes it.

01:31:35.000 Yeah, but who cares that?

01:31:37.000 Why is it such a big deal that Macrone has, you know, maybe or maybe doesn't have a thing under their pants?

01:31:44.000 Like, who, like, why is that a big deal?

01:31:46.000 Because of the drama, right?

01:31:47.000 No, because she'll be Bridget McCrone will be murdered if Bridget McCrone travels to Saudi Arabia. 1.00

01:31:51.000 That's why.

01:31:52.000 So if any Qatari, Middle Eastern individual, royalty or otherwise, believes this is a trans person in a homosexual relationship coming to their country, it's going to present diplomatic problems for France.

01:32:06.000 And Candace is pumping that stuff out. 1.00

01:32:09.000 So that is an issue.

01:32:09.000 That's weird.

01:32:11.000 So this was true with Peter Thiel when he got ousted by, I think it was Gawker.

01:32:15.000 Was it Gawker back in the day?

01:32:16.000 Yeah, it was.

01:32:17.000 He got outed as being gay.

01:32:19.000 And they all laughed and they were like, ha ha, we can do whatever you want. 0.99

01:32:22.000 Well, the issue is if he if he flies to a foreign country for a business meeting, they could kill him.

01:32:27.000 And that's why it's a problem.

01:32:29.000 But why does Candace care? 1.00

01:32:30.000 Why is that so relevant?

01:32:30.000 Yeah.

01:32:32.000 Does it have a negative impact on our politics?

01:32:34.000 I don't know.

01:32:35.000 No, but it makes her money and gets her views. 1.00

01:32:37.000 Yeah, like it's.

01:32:38.000 But it doesn't because she's going to lose.

01:32:40.000 That's what I don't understand.

01:32:41.000 And so then when I think about it, let me ask you guys a few questions.

01:32:48.000 Whether she believes it or not, she is smart enough to understand legal liability and the ability to prove something in court, right?

01:32:53.000 So you can't win this.

01:32:55.000 So the presumption is she has to understand she will be sued and lose.

01:33:00.000 The question then is: if she knew she would be sued and lose, she's not going to make money from doing it. 1.00

01:33:07.000 It will destroy her career in the long run. 0.70

01:33:09.000 Why then do it?

01:33:11.000 Like, what conclusions can we come to?

01:33:14.000 If we're thinking about an individual who is calculating and intelligent, why would they make a move knowing they'll be sued into oblivion?

01:33:21.000 I think maybe she would have a backer that even if she loses all the money, they will compensate her money. 0.90

01:33:27.000 What is the end goal of calling Bridget Macron a man?

01:33:30.000 Jeez, I don't know.

01:33:30.000 Jesus.

01:33:32.000 Fame?

01:33:33.000 She's already got in.

01:33:34.000 She's got 100,000 or 150,000 people watching her show today. 0.55

01:33:38.000 I can't imagine.

01:33:39.000 Fame, perhaps.

01:33:40.000 Maybe all the other conspiracy theories were already occupied by some group or influencer, and so she had to pick something that was still free.

01:33:46.000 I don't know.

01:33:47.000 That was crazy.

01:33:48.000 So let me add a few more ingredients to the mix then.

01:33:52.000 Okay.

01:33:53.000 She has recently come out and told people to get refunds on their donations to Turning Point USA, which could literally end the organization very quickly if a large enough amount of people do it.

01:34:04.000 So I can get a refund from France.

01:34:07.000 Okay, and let's add one more thing to the mix.

01:34:09.000 Her lawyers work in the same building as the feds. 0.70

01:34:13.000 She works for the CIA.

01:34:15.000 Maybe.

01:34:17.000 Left to CIA.

01:34:18.000 Candace Owens' lawyers work out of the same building as the feds. 1.00

01:34:23.000 Why is none of the people who follow her asking this question?

01:34:25.000 How does this make sense?

01:34:27.000 I have to be completely honest.

01:34:29.000 We have corporate lawyers.

01:34:30.000 We have many of them.

01:34:31.000 None of them work in buildings where feds work. 1.00

01:34:33.000 That is very, very weird.

01:34:36.000 And I'm curious about her communications with these lawyers over the issue.

01:34:41.000 Has she not gone to them and say, why are you at the same building as the feds?

01:34:45.000 And during her little video, it sounded like she had no idea that they were in the same building.

01:34:51.000 Right.

01:34:52.000 She's just blindsided.

01:34:54.000 Because perhaps she's just doing what she's told.

01:34:57.000 She's just saying what she's told to say.

01:35:00.000 And that's why she's not concerned about being sued into oblivion because she is putting up the message that she is told to put out.

01:35:05.000 And that's why, despite claiming if you criticize Israel, you'll be banned, YouTube props her up.

01:35:11.000 So let's put all these ingredients together and ask those that are faithful viewers of Candace Owens.

01:35:16.000 She did something that made no sense that was a clear defamation slam dunk that'll get her company destroyed and sued into oblivion. 1.00

01:35:24.000 She's advocating the destruction of Turning Point, telling people to pull their money out. 1.00

01:35:28.000 Her lawyers operate out of the same building as federal agents, DEA, FBI, Secret Service, her own admission, and YouTube props her up the whole time. 1.00

01:35:42.000 It proves it.

01:35:43.000 It does.

01:35:44.000 You don't know what she says.

01:35:45.000 I can say with 100% certainty that I believe that Candace is a spy.

01:35:50.000 She's a CI. 0.98

01:35:51.000 I can actually say that I genuinely think Candace is a Fed.

01:35:54.000 That all sounds very fetish.

01:35:56.000 Fed isn't the right word for it, but deep state or something like that.

01:36:01.000 Agent Owens.

01:36:02.000 Why is Nick Fuentes banned from every platform, but Candace Owens is propped up on every platform? 1.00

01:36:06.000 Yeah.

01:36:07.000 So again, Alex Jones says stuff about Sandy Hook.

01:36:11.000 He gets sued into oblivion.

01:36:11.000 They ban him.

01:36:13.000 Candace Owens says crazy stuff about Turning Point USA, Bridget McCrone.

01:36:18.000 YouTube puts her on the front page.

01:36:19.000 Spotify pumps her to number one.

01:36:21.000 All of it is A-OK.

01:36:22.000 And her lawyers work in the same building as the feds. 1.00

01:36:27.000 Why do your lawyers work in a building with federal agents?

01:36:31.000 Answer the question.

01:36:33.000 There's no answer.

01:36:34.000 There's literally nothing you can say.

01:36:36.000 Oh, it's just a coincidence that I hired a law firm that's in the same building as the feds.

01:36:40.000 And then acted as, uh...

01:36:41.000 Oh, whoops, I...

01:36:42.000 I slipped and landed in a federal office with a bunch of federal agents.

01:36:46.000 You could argue that she just aggravated her message since Trump got into office and all times have changed.

01:36:51.000 But Nick Fuentes, I believe, just recently tried to start a YouTube channel and it got shut down immediately.

01:36:56.000 So the different kinds of treatments are.

01:36:58.000 And he's calling her out.

01:36:59.000 Yeah.

01:37:00.000 So why is it that Candace is allowed to say crazy things that have resulted in massive lawsuits? 1.00

01:37:06.000 YouTube doesn't care.

01:37:07.000 In fact, they want to promote her more.

01:37:10.000 She is accused.

01:37:11.000 She's pushed all this conspiracy content, which YouTube says conspiracy stuff is banned. 0.99

01:37:17.000 Look, I don't know that she's a federal agent.

01:37:19.000 Lucad.

01:37:20.000 But I'll say that.

01:37:22.000 It is a fact of her own accidental admission that the law firm representing her is in the same building as federal agents.

01:37:30.000 It's crazy.

01:37:31.000 I'm just saying.

01:37:32.000 Yeah.

01:37:34.000 The people that don't ask that question that follow her.

01:37:37.000 Like, this is the first thing I'll say to anybody.

01:37:39.000 Like, I watch Cancel, I'm like, eh, she's a Fed.

01:37:41.000 Like, you don't accidentally hire a law firm in a federal building.

01:37:44.000 That's right.

01:37:44.000 You know what I mean?

01:37:45.000 Like, how is this?

01:37:46.000 And then she accidentally revealed it on her own show.

01:37:49.000 And then she had no answer.

01:37:50.000 Oh, it's a registered agent.

01:37:51.000 They registered in the same building as the feds?

01:37:51.000 What?

01:37:55.000 Yep.

01:37:56.000 That 10-minute, her 10-minute video on that, and just to end up at the end there being at the same building, like blew my mind.

01:38:03.000 I was like, what the F?

01:38:04.000 But she didn't know it when she told it.

01:38:06.000 That's what I mean.

01:38:06.000 That's like, yeah, the whole.

01:38:08.000 And then what actually happened was people didn't realize it.

01:38:11.000 The people that called her out were like, she accidentally posted her own address.

01:38:16.000 So this is what happened.

01:38:17.000 On her show, she said she got an email that said these Egyptian planes, I think it was the Egyptian planes, had federal vehicles going from the airport to this building at a certain address in Delaware.

01:38:25.000 And then when she said the address in Delaware and then said, look, the feds operate out of there, some Democrats were like, that's actually her address.

01:38:33.000 Then a journalist came out and said, no, no, guys, the feds actually do work there. 0.80

01:38:38.000 And then I'm like, hold on.

01:38:41.000 This is actually really crazy.

01:38:43.000 Her own lawyers are working in the same building as the feds.

01:38:47.000 And I responded immediately.

01:38:48.000 I said, how come the narrative is not the feds are spying on her or she is a fed?

01:38:54.000 How come that is not part of this conversation?

01:38:57.000 Because Nick Fuentes doesn't have anything like this.

01:38:59.000 Nick doesn't work with any Fed building people.

01:38:59.000 No.

01:39:02.000 He don't.

01:39:03.000 Daily Wire doesn't.

01:39:03.000 Powder doesn't.

01:39:05.000 All of the people accused of working for Israel don't have federal agent lawyers.

01:39:09.000 There's a lot of people that could say that Nick.

01:39:10.000 Federal agent lawyers.

01:39:12.000 Federal.

01:39:13.000 Yeah.

01:39:13.000 No, I love it.

01:39:14.000 Federal agent lawyers.

01:39:16.000 Whatever.

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01:40:58.000 Shanitz Wilder says, great job on getting pool water in Mother Shuckers, Tim.

01:41:02.000 I'll have to go get some when I'm back up there in late January.

01:41:06.000 Mother Shuckers is a great place. 1.00

01:41:08.000 And if you don't like Joe Biden, if you like Donald Trump, you'll also love Mother Shuckers because they are unabashed and they've got signs and stickers everywhere. 0.74

01:41:15.000 It's great fun.

01:41:16.000 So if you happen to find yourself in Martinsburg, West Virginia, and you want to get some great food, Mother Shuckers is selling pool water.

01:41:24.000 Not pool water, but pool brand water.

01:41:27.000 You know, you get it.

01:41:28.000 When's the spa water coming out?

01:41:30.000 We need the sparkling?

01:41:31.000 Yeah, we need sparkling water.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, spa water was the next idea.

01:41:34.000 And then what were we going to do?

01:41:36.000 Toilet water was the chocolate drink.

01:41:39.000 I don't know how many people want to drink that.

01:41:41.000 It's public pool water was the lemon water.

01:41:43.000 Pond water was green tea.

01:41:45.000 Yeah.

01:41:46.000 And then what was it?

01:41:48.000 Public pool water is the lemon lemon flame.

01:41:53.000 All right.

01:41:54.000 Metho says, I still think it was a woman because of the gait. 1.00

01:41:57.000 If the hips don't rock when they walk, they got a sock and those hips were rocking. 0.64

01:42:01.000 Agreed.

01:42:02.000 This person walked like a female and bent over at the hips to drop something down. 1.00

01:42:08.000 When they were like, it's this guy, I'm like, really?

01:42:11.000 I listened to your segment today, and I was working, cleaning up, getting ready for the winter time, and I was doing a lot of bending over.

01:42:15.000 So I was practicing and it's really, I either put my leg up as I'm going down to balance my body and or I have one foot in front of the other to balance my body.

01:42:25.000 But standing legs straight and kind of bending over and pick stuff up, it feels weird.

01:42:29.000 It's very unnatural.

01:42:31.000 If a man, so lean up against a wall and then lean forward at the hips.

01:42:36.000 If you are a man, you will fall over.

01:42:38.000 If you are a woman, you will have no problem.

01:42:40.000 This is one of those viral TikTok challenges they do all the time where it's like a man and woman will stand against a wall and then try and bend down to pick something up.

01:42:46.000 Or they do one where it's like pick up a chair.

01:42:49.000 And the men and women will lean on a chair and then the women will just go right up with it and the men can't stand up. 0.65

01:42:49.000 Yeah. 0.65

01:42:54.000 Why didn't Candace Owens challenge Bridget McCron to do that? 1.00

01:42:57.000 Like against way faster.

01:43:01.000 If you get it done, no embarrassments will solve the issue right away.

01:43:04.000 Yeah. 0.92

01:43:06.000 Copo Sooth says, no way a black man waved at police, dead giveaway, dead giveaway. 0.77

01:43:11.000 Right, because in the surveillance footage of the pipe bomber, they wave at the Capitol Police.

01:43:17.000 So they were like, yeah, no way.

01:43:19.000 I saw a tweet.

01:43:19.000 It said Jake Tapper skewered for calling DC, black DC pipe bomb suspect Brian Cole Jr. a white man on air.

01:43:27.000 He did?

01:43:27.000 Did he?

01:43:28.000 There's a video of it.

01:43:28.000 He did.

01:43:29.000 What, really?

01:43:30.000 Let me see.

01:43:30.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 I'll find input.

01:43:33.000 Well, to be fair, people were sharing a bunch of different pictures of random Brian Coles.

01:43:36.000 But there's like a picture up there with him that's like of.

01:43:41.000 I guess he's against a green screen, though, right?

01:43:44.000 Like he can't see the image behind him.

01:43:46.000 John Rambo says, is anyone else impressed with the silent takeover of the UK?

01:43:50.000 Does that mean U.S. big tech is complicit or willfully ignorant with the UK government in silencing dissent?

01:43:55.000 12,000 arrests a year.

01:43:56.000 I watched a video on Instagram where police showed up some woman's house and they confiscated her daughter's phone for saying a naughty word or something like this.

01:44:07.000 That's the UK.

01:44:08.000 There's a video going viral right now of like a dude in Calgary getting arrested for not apologizing about his faith or something like this.

01:44:13.000 I don't know exactly what happened.

01:44:16.000 Do you guys have that issue?

01:44:17.000 It's just the same in Germany.

01:44:18.000 You just don't hear as much about it because German's not as vocal about it.

01:44:22.000 And also because there's the language barrier between English and Americans.

01:44:26.000 And the UK, they speak English too.

01:44:27.000 So there's a much better connection, especially on social media between them.

01:44:33.000 Now we're starting to see more from Germany too, but it's like for the past years there has been this silent tyranny in Germany.

01:44:39.000 And the people of Germany, they are more obedient, more compliant, and they like to stay in line and not snitch on each other or at least not snitch on the government.

01:44:48.000 They like to snitch on each other, unfortunately, to the government.

01:44:50.000 But they don't like to go against the grain and violate the establishment narrative.

01:44:55.000 And especially doing that outside of the German bubble is very much looked down upon.

01:45:01.000 When I first started doing more international stuff and speaking English, the number one comment that I got was in Germany, you got to speak German.

01:45:10.000 And yeah, and now they are starting to appreciate it more because it's becoming increasingly useful and necessary for us to build this bridge between Germany or rather Europe and America to actually understand that it's an issue of Western society and we the people versus some form of globalism that we actually got to defeat.

01:45:28.000 And since Germany is the biggest, has the biggest impact in the European Union, that we got to take down the European Union. 0.63

01:45:34.000 And I personally think, because why is it so bad in the UK now, even though they had the Brexit, I think the Brexit was hijacked.

01:45:41.000 And it was basically like a psyop.

01:45:43.000 Yeah.

01:45:44.000 It wasn't supposed to happen.

01:45:45.000 It did.

01:45:45.000 And then they tried to sabotage it.

01:45:48.000 It took years.

01:45:48.000 They never got it done and then they screwed it all up.

01:45:51.000 All right.

01:45:52.000 I'm assuming this is pronounced soupy.

01:45:54.000 Per Tim Cast tradition, we are on our way to meet our twins.

01:45:57.000 They are babies four and five.

01:45:59.000 We have more than doubled our replacement.

01:46:01.000 God is good.

01:46:02.000 Children are the fountain of youth.

01:46:03.000 Have more babies.

01:46:04.000 Four and five.

01:46:05.000 Hell yeah.

01:46:06.000 Congratulations.

01:46:07.000 Wonderful.

01:46:07.000 Good team.

01:46:08.000 Good to hear.

01:46:08.000 Concrete Haiti says Massey is pushing hard for a federal constitutional carry bill.

01:46:12.000 How would Naomi feel about something like that would affect Germany and the AFD if that passed there?

01:46:18.000 Would she be comfortable moving back?

01:46:19.000 This means you have a right to carry a gun without a permit.

01:46:24.000 I would still be arrested, likely.

01:46:26.000 No, he's saying if in Germany they said you can now legally carry a gun concealed wherever you want.

01:46:30.000 Oh, I see.

01:46:33.000 The only way that I could comfortably come back to Germany is if the AFD actually makes it into the government.

01:46:38.000 Otherwise, the bureaucracy, I think, is being severely underestimated in Germany because there are so many ways that the government can get you.

01:46:46.000 They're trying to shut down the most popular party, and I think that's a huge issue.

01:46:50.000 So unless the AFD actually makes it into the government, they will find so many loopholes to get you as an individual, and especially if you're a threat to the government, that it's just currently, sadly, I love Germany so much, especially during the Christmas season, but it's impossible for me to return right now.

01:47:07.000 I would love for us to have gun rights in Germany, but that's not going to happen anytime soon.

01:47:13.000 And also, you have to consider that if we were able to carry guns in Germany, the first and probably the only ones who would feel comfortable carrying guns would be all the Islamists that we imported. 0.98

01:47:23.000 I think that would be an issue because Germans are just not used to it. 1.00

01:47:26.000 Germans don't like to think about the idea of just trying something completely new and trying guns because we're still a bit afraid of the whole idea.

01:47:34.000 So our society would have to get used to it eventually.

01:47:38.000 And I am totally in favor of gun rights, but that has to be a long-term issue.

01:47:42.000 And right now, we have so many illegals in the country that are here as Germans. 0.99

01:47:48.000 The number one birthday in Germany is January 1st.

01:47:52.000 And that's just because a lot of illegals or like people who came across the borders are registered as having their birthdays on January 1st.

01:48:01.000 So yeah, it's a whole, it's a very bad system.

01:48:03.000 The entire system is just very infected with corruption.

01:48:07.000 And therefore, we need to change the entire system from scratch.

01:48:11.000 I was under the impression that the AFD had made, that the German government had made the AFD illegal to some degree.

01:48:18.000 There are instances where they have already banned, for example, candidates for mayor positions in one of the largest cities in Germany, for example.

01:48:27.000 And they have made the AFD a far-right extremist party, which just gives German intelligence the authority to investigate them, to put them under surveillance, to raid their houses whenever they want to.

01:48:40.000 I have a friend from the AFD who has a big impact because he's in the European Parliament.

01:48:45.000 And they just raided his house for, I think, the 28th time.

01:48:50.000 Yeah, he told me that on the phone recently.

01:48:51.000 And I said, wait, didn't you say 22nd time recently?

01:48:55.000 And he said, yeah, but that was four weeks ago.

01:49:00.000 Pinochet says, the prosecutor also prosecuted the Proud Boys.

01:49:00.000 All right.

01:49:04.000 Don't worry, Tim.

01:49:05.000 I'm sure the DOJ won't throw the case and are working very hard for justice.

01:49:09.000 Interesting.

01:49:10.000 So the same prosecutor going for this Brian Cole guy went for Proud Boys?

01:49:15.000 Is that the case?

01:49:16.000 I'll Google Chat it.

01:49:18.000 Fact check.

01:49:19.000 I squared says, how will the government cater to young people when they seem not to be pleased with anything that even Trump does, Blackpill, not grateful and want instant gratification? 1.00

01:49:29.000 American Dream Does Not Fall From Trees?

01:49:33.000 Yeah.

01:49:33.000 I don't know if it's just about instant gratification as much as it is.

01:49:37.000 They literally can't see a path forward at all.

01:49:39.000 Like, there isn't a future for them.

01:49:42.000 It's not about getting it right now.

01:49:43.000 It's saying there isn't even a foreseeable future where things seem to improve.

01:49:48.000 And that's a very, very hard road.

01:49:51.000 Yeah.

01:49:52.000 All right.

01:49:53.000 Ditch says, okay, now I'm depressed.

01:49:54.000 I'm old enough to still think of Holly Berry, Halle Berry, as a hottie, not a menopausal old crone, just lost in the mix, old Gen Z. 0.86

01:50:04.000 She still posts all sorts of thirst trap photos on the internets, though.

01:50:08.000 So you can still look at her that way if you want to.

01:50:11.000 Her name is Jocelyn Ballantyne.

01:50:14.000 She appears on the docket, the criminal docket of the Brad Boy's seditious conspiracy.

01:50:19.000 So, yeah.

01:50:21.000 Methos says when he publicly apologizes for this, I may listen to him.

01:50:25.000 And then he mentions the quote I'm not going to read of Nick Fuentes' loyalty pledge.

01:50:30.000 Apparently, there's a viral video.

01:50:32.000 Is that like Nick said, everyone watching make a loyalty pledge right to me now or something like that?

01:50:36.000 Oh, good lord.

01:50:37.000 Yeah.

01:50:38.000 I'm not familiar with it, but we can imagine.

01:50:41.000 Oh, here's an important one.

01:50:42.000 Evan Freud says, perhaps Candace is doing what Lelouch from Code Geas did and pitting the world against him, make himself the enemy of mankind and have her fall to unite the world right in this case.

01:50:54.000 Oh, that's amazing.

01:50:56.000 What's that reference to?

01:50:57.000 Code Guias. 0.55

01:50:59.000 Oh, the anime.

01:51:00.000 Oh, I heard about it.

01:51:00.000 I heard about it, but I haven't watched it yet.

01:51:02.000 Got to have a bad.

01:51:03.000 Sergeant knew immediately.

01:51:06.000 Kawaii, how you say, Kawi writer?

01:51:09.000 Candace used to be a progressive activist before she became conservative. 1.00

01:51:12.000 She still acts like a leftist. 0.96

01:51:13.000 She spreads division and lies, then hides when she is given the opportunity to debate.

01:51:17.000 That's the funniest thing.

01:51:18.000 It's like they said, okay, come on this date.

01:51:21.000 We'll do the show.

01:51:21.000 And she goes, well, I can't.

01:51:22.000 Even Nick Fuentes is like, oh, you've got to be kidding me.

01:51:27.000 That's that's, you know, I was talking to these young guys and they were asking me about Candace.

01:51:30.000 And I just said, isn't it weird that she gets propped up and Nick gets banned?

01:51:34.000 And they were like, yeah.

01:51:36.000 I'm like, I just think that's weird.

01:51:37.000 Like, how come she's on YouTube and Nick isn't?

01:51:40.000 What's going on?

01:51:41.000 I still think it's just all about the old trolliness that Nick used to do, the old, you know, used to say things just to throw bombs and stuff.

01:51:48.000 I think that that's the thing that people find most distasteful about Nick.

01:51:51.000 And that's, I honestly think, I think that that's why he's moderating his tone with a lot of stuff.

01:51:56.000 Jaded2000 says, dude, I love you and Candace both.

01:51:59.000 I can't stand this.

01:52:01.000 Well, listen, when this all started, we actually were at turning point.

01:52:06.000 And even the turning point guy said, you know, respect what she's doing and we're friends.

01:52:10.000 So, and she was like digging into conspiracy theories.

01:52:14.000 But when she got to the point where she told everyone to pull their donations from that godforsaken organization, I was just like, wow.

01:52:23.000 Man.

01:52:24.000 It's rough.

01:52:26.000 Yeah, this is, you know, because in order to build your audience, you've got to one up every single day.

01:52:33.000 If you don't, you get boring.

01:52:35.000 And people don't want to watch boring.

01:52:38.000 You know, I mentioned this other day.

01:52:39.000 I was talking to this guy.

01:52:40.000 He said he was a big fan and he used to watch Charlie at the time.

01:52:42.000 He unsubbed from Charlie.

01:52:43.000 It's sad because he knows there's no more content.

01:52:45.000 But he goes, to be honest, he's like, I haven't really watched a lot of political stuff lately because it's the same thing every single day.

01:52:51.000 Well, not if you watch Candace.

01:52:53.000 With Candace, it's a new murder mystery, you know, mystery box every single day, something new to get confused about without any real answers.

01:53:01.000 So that's the direction she's gone.

01:53:04.000 That's it.

01:53:05.000 If you want, look, I got to be honest.

01:53:07.000 Like, has she told you anything?

01:53:09.000 You know, honestly, has she told you anything?

01:53:12.000 She said that they're Egyptian aircraft.

01:53:14.000 Okay.

01:53:14.000 Let's say there are Egyptian aircraft flying around.

01:53:17.000 Who are they?

01:53:17.000 Who's flying them?

01:53:18.000 What are they doing and why?

01:53:19.000 She hasn't given an answer.

01:53:21.000 Oh, so maybe they're completely unrelated?

01:53:23.000 Seems weird, though, right?

01:53:23.000 Possibly.

01:53:24.000 Yeah.

01:53:25.000 That's about it.

01:53:26.000 The seems weird is the thing that gets people coming back.

01:53:29.000 It seems weird.

01:53:30.000 And then people can run their imagination and come up with all kinds of their own ideas about what they think happened.

01:53:38.000 And then they can go back to listen to Candace and she can pontificate more and make more illusions. 0.99

01:53:44.000 Yeah.

01:53:45.000 I was going to say, you know what the most demoralizing thing is? 0.95

01:53:48.000 How cowardly most people on the right actually are. 0.97

01:53:51.000 Yes. 1.00

01:53:52.000 The Republican Party is a bunch of cowards. 0.98

01:53:55.000 I'll give some credit to Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder because they've stood up for, you know, Megan Kelly, come on. 0.97

01:54:04.000 You know, what are you doing?

01:54:07.000 Tucker Carlson's great. 0.80

01:54:08.000 You know, I like him, but there are a lot of cowards on the right who are just too scared to say anything about all the BS that's going on. 0.93

01:54:13.000 And then, you know, then you've got Trump sycophants. 0.98

01:54:16.000 It's just like, ugh. 0.97

01:54:18.000 The Democratic Party is some weird sludge mess. 0.76

01:54:20.000 I don't even know how to describe what the Democratic Party is.

01:54:23.000 But man, I got to tell you, I talk to people out in the wild, and it's like politics is so cooked.

01:54:32.000 We've reached the apex.

01:54:33.000 There's nothing more to be said.

01:54:34.000 Trump can't be any more or less Hitler, right?

01:54:37.000 It's just nowhere to go.

01:54:40.000 So, I don't know.

01:54:41.000 Maybe I can just come out and be like, Candace is trying to kill me or whatever.

01:54:46.000 And then people said that the other day. 0.98

01:54:47.000 Yeah, she's trying to kill me. 1.00

01:54:49.000 Yeah, I thought so. 0.95

01:54:50.000 Maybe.

01:54:50.000 Did I?

01:54:51.000 No, I don't think so.

01:54:52.000 No.

01:54:54.000 I can confirm 100% that Candace is trying to kill me in a video game. 1.00

01:55:02.000 In Minecraft.

01:55:03.000 In Minecraft.

01:55:04.000 In my brain.

01:55:06.000 All right.

01:55:07.000 Shaggy for America. 0.67

01:55:08.000 I was mad thinking Candace was right, but it doesn't make sense.

01:55:10.000 Charlie liked Israel as a state, but not Bibi. 1.00

01:55:13.000 He got Trump elected.

01:55:14.000 The deep state wants this guy.

01:55:16.000 The deep state wants this. 1.00

01:55:18.000 You guys are fools. 1.00

01:55:19.000 This is yeah, right. 1.00

01:55:20.000 So let me let me let me let me point something out.

01:55:23.000 Charlie Kirk and Turning Point were pivotal in the election of the Republican Party in the House, the Senate, and Donald Trump.

01:55:30.000 Why is Candace working for the deep state? 1.00

01:55:33.000 Like, I'm not going to play stupid games and be like, oh, the feds and all this stuff. 0.98

01:55:36.000 No, like no one is helping the deep state more than Candace Owens right now. 0.98

01:55:41.000 Nobody is more damaging to Charlie's legacy than Candace Owens right now.

01:55:44.000 And if we were to act only upon actions and not words, and you had to, and someone asked you, who do you think hated Charlie Kirk the most?

01:55:52.000 Candace Owens.

01:55:54.000 She's doing everything she can to burn down everything he spent his life building and his family who needs these resources.

01:56:03.000 It's like wild to be like, pull your donations.

01:56:05.000 Are you kidding?

01:56:06.000 Like, what is his wife going to do if Turning Point is destroyed by everyone pulling their donations? 0.72

01:56:12.000 How is she going to have money for her children? 1.00

01:56:14.000 I mean, what's the idea?

01:56:15.000 Yeah, and I find it very disingenuous that she was Candace was the one who, in the beginning of her starting to attack Turning Point USA, said, I will stop immediately as soon as Erica Kerr comes out and tells me to stop.

01:56:28.000 So she was putting herself on the side of Erica Kirk.

01:56:31.000 And I thought that was very pretentious because, yeah, Erica Kirk is not saying anything because she's grieving and she has a lot to deal with.

01:56:38.000 Why would she come out and say, I hate Candace Owens? 0.99

01:56:40.000 or like Candice Owens needs to stop. 1.00

01:56:42.000 She just probably just doesn't want to be involved with the drama right now, understandably.

01:56:46.000 So I just think that's very disrespectful to pretend like she's the only one who can stand up for Erica Kerk and like she's best friends with Erica Kirk, which I don't think is the case.

01:56:53.000 And if, well, clearly, Charlie Kirk had had his criticisms of Netanyahu, and I totally understand that kind of perspective.

01:57:05.000 But at the same time, he also stood firmly behind Turning Point USA.

01:57:09.000 And if that was not the case, then he would have made it known to the public.

01:57:13.000 So now to try to destroy Turning Point USA, if Charlie Kirk was still alive right now, he would still be running Turning Point USA.

01:57:20.000 So if Candace was trying to take down Turning Point USA now, if Charlie was still alive, then it would be completely against what he's promoting.

01:57:29.000 Her claiming that they killed him, I just don't see it.

01:57:34.000 We have not seen any evidence from her.

01:57:36.000 No, if I was a normie off the streets and I just came into the situation to listen and hear what's going on, what she's saying and what's going on in the situation, like, why does this lady hate this company? 0.85

01:57:47.000 Why did she hate Charlie?

01:57:48.000 What's going on?

01:57:49.000 I don't think that.

01:57:50.000 It would like exactly.

01:57:52.000 If you didn't know any of the backstory, you would come across as being like, wow, she really hates these people, huh?

01:57:58.000 And if Erica Kuck secretly agreed with Candice Owens and she just couldn't say anything in fear of her life or whatever, then I don't think she would continue to run Turning Point USA, but she has been promoting Turning Point USA.

01:58:12.000 So that wouldn't make sense either.

01:58:14.000 Yeah.

01:58:15.000 Kay Ferrari says, once Candice changed her ads and she started talking about Blake Lively, I stopped listening to her.

01:58:20.000 She knows her audience is now liberal and liberals hate Charlie, so they love that she is destroying Turning Point USA.

01:58:26.000 Also, it splits the difference between the two.

01:58:28.000 It's the same type of drama that you get from a Hollywood story, but it also involves politics.

01:58:33.000 It's a sweet spot as far as the type of storytelling she's doing.

01:58:37.000 Indeed.

01:58:38.000 All right.

01:58:38.000 We got time for a couple more.

01:58:39.000 We got Jason Dix.

01:58:41.000 He says, shout out to the Discord.

01:58:43.000 That's right.

01:58:44.000 Shows in the morning.

01:58:45.000 What is the Cast Brew?

01:58:47.000 Yeah.

01:58:48.000 Morning Castle.

01:58:49.000 There you go.

01:58:49.000 You got the 6 p.m. show with Slick and Olivia, and one of the IRL co-hosts tends to join in from the crew.

01:58:56.000 Then you've got the After Dark show.

01:58:59.000 So if you want to find community of like-minded individuals, you go to TimCast.com.

01:59:03.000 I do like that, Olivia.

01:59:03.000 You click join us.

01:59:04.000 She's pretty great.

01:59:05.000 Yeah.

01:59:06.000 And we do a book club sometimes every Mondays around seven or eight on the Discord if you like reading books.

01:59:12.000 Have you met that Olivia chick? 0.98

01:59:15.000 I mean, I won't say anything here.

01:59:17.000 She seems all right.

01:59:18.000 She seems all right.

01:59:19.000 All right.

01:59:20.000 Here's one from XZ.

01:59:22.000 It says, Tim, can you ask your guest this?

01:59:25.000 I'm going to try.

01:59:27.000 Naomi, vas is dein Lieblingstadt in Deutscheland, Wast is Din Lieblings Schloss, mein Lieblingstadt ist Heidelberg und mein Lieblingschloss is Noschwanstein.

01:59:45.000 We here in America are glad to have you here, Naomi.

01:59:48.000 How did I do?

01:59:49.000 Thank you very much.

01:59:50.000 You did great.

01:59:51.000 I understood everything.

01:59:52.000 You're great.

01:59:53.000 I didn't.

01:59:53.000 So they asked me.

01:59:55.000 Well, I actually did.

01:59:55.000 I actually understood everything except for Lieblingstadt.

01:59:59.000 Yeah, they asked me what my favorite city is in Germany.

02:00:02.000 And then my favorite castle in Germany.

02:00:04.000 Oh.

02:00:04.000 So my favorite city in Germany, probably Munich, because it's one of the few cities that have not been destroyed yet by mass immigration.

02:00:13.000 So it's pretty nice there still.

02:00:15.000 I'm personally, I'm from Münster, and I like it in Münster visually.

02:00:19.000 It's the city of bikes.

02:00:20.000 We compete with Amsterdam, basically.

02:00:22.000 But it's very strong on the leftism side.

02:00:25.000 And we have a lot of antifa. 0.99

02:00:26.000 And they hate me and they want to kill me. 0.95

02:00:27.000 So that's not good.

02:00:29.000 Does the cathedral in Cologne count as a castle?

02:00:32.000 I know that it's technically a cathedral, but man.

02:00:36.000 Yeah, it doesn't count as a castle, but it's amazing.

02:00:38.000 It's so impressive.

02:00:39.000 Yeah, it's very impressive.

02:00:40.000 So my favorite castle, I'll probably have to say Neuschwanstein too, but that's mostly because I haven't seen many castles, unfortunately.

02:00:47.000 I've seen a few of them, but more small ones in the region where I'm from.

02:00:51.000 I've not been that much in the castle regions in Germany because I'm more northwest.

02:00:57.000 But I like that question.

02:00:58.000 Thank you very much.

02:00:59.000 Yeah.

02:01:00.000 You know, in all seriousness, I think they wrote it in a way that's like as close to English.

02:01:05.000 Sure.

02:01:06.000 Because, you know, English is Germanic and there's, you know.

02:01:09.000 Similarities.

02:01:10.000 You even sound aggressive speaking English as a German. 0.92

02:01:13.000 You know, Germans, their language is aggressive. 1.00

02:01:13.000 Sorry? 1.00

02:01:16.000 Even as you speak English, it comes off as, you know, you're aggressive in English.

02:01:21.000 That was the classic Simpsons joke about Russian. 1.00

02:01:24.000 Lisa walks up to the Russian guy and he starts screaming at her and he's screaming like, oh, no problem, little girl. 0.85

02:01:29.000 Let me help you with the directions that you need.

02:01:30.000 And she runs screaming.

02:01:32.000 He just sounded like he was screaming at her, but he was being bullied.

02:01:35.000 This is a big meme with German, though.

02:01:36.000 Yes.

02:01:37.000 German is the most aggressive language. 0.99

02:01:39.000 I see all these memes on Instagram, for example, where you have a bunch of words where they show you what these words are spelled as and how you say them in different languages.

02:01:48.000 And then the last one is always German. 0.98

02:01:50.000 For example, butterfly.

02:01:52.000 Schmidterling.

02:01:53.000 I was just going to say schmitterling.

02:01:55.000 Dilly2000 says, Tim, tell us about your private meeting with Bibi.

02:01:59.000 I did, like, several times, but you don't care.

02:02:01.000 It's like this, it's like the weirdest psycho-obsession.

02:02:05.000 He advocated for war.

02:02:06.000 He wanted the U.S. to get involved in war with Iran.

02:02:09.000 People laughed at him.

02:02:10.000 Some people agreed with him.

02:02:11.000 And that was the end of the meeting.

02:02:12.000 He actually spent a long time talking about, I think it was like Greece or something.

02:02:16.000 They want you to say that you walked away with a big basket of cash.

02:02:19.000 Well, that's true, too.

02:02:20.000 But I mean, it is.

02:02:21.000 I'm kidding.

02:02:21.000 It's like $10,000 of those $7,000 checks.

02:02:24.000 Any world leader comes to the White House and says, I'm invited to meet them, I'm going.

02:02:28.000 Like insane.

02:02:29.000 You know what I mean?

02:02:30.000 In fact, I didn't go to the Pentagon, which I kind of thought was like, maybe I shouldn't go to the Managon.

02:02:35.000 Here we go.

02:02:36.000 Panda God says only 20,000 people watching.

02:02:36.000 I like this one.

02:02:39.000 Candace has five times that. 1.00

02:02:41.000 Here's five bucks for a failing podcast.

02:02:43.000 Like, this is kind of the point.

02:02:45.000 First thing I'll say is: well, I mean, we're on Rumble, where we have more viewers.

02:02:50.000 And we had like 40K last night.

02:02:52.000 So we're in the top 10.

02:02:54.000 What were like number seven or something like that yesterday?

02:02:56.000 I don't know.

02:02:57.000 But that's just like a live show.

02:02:59.000 And I even said this the other day, and it's like, there's nothing you can say to these wingnuts. 0.99

02:03:03.000 Even when I said, if we did just one show, we'd probably be 60, 70% the size of Candace. 0.99

02:03:07.000 She has a big show with mass appeal.

02:03:09.000 And they're just like, aha, your show's smaller than ours.

02:03:12.000 I'm like, yes, it is.

02:03:13.000 Always has been.

02:03:14.000 She's got way more subscribers on her channel than this channel.

02:03:18.000 I don't, I don't like, am I going to be like, Brad Pitt's so famous?

02:03:22.000 I'm so mad.

02:03:22.000 I don't know.

02:03:23.000 What does his podcast do?

02:03:25.000 I mean, Dax Shepard has like one of the biggest podcasts.

02:03:28.000 You know what I mean?

02:03:29.000 You see that photo spread of like all the famous podcasters for the Hollywood Reporter and Ben Shapiro is there and he's kind of sitting off to the side.

02:03:36.000 He's like the other people didn't want to like take advantage of him.

02:03:39.000 I feel bad for him.

02:03:40.000 Poor Penny.

02:03:40.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:03:41.000 I mean, I think the real opportunity right now is to totally abandon politics and talk about drunk raccoons. 0.74

02:03:45.000 So that's what we're going to do.

02:03:46.000 Smash the like button.

02:03:48.000 Should be on every night if you're doing that.

02:03:49.000 Yeah.

02:03:50.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

02:03:52.000 I mean, when the show first started, everyone's talking about how YouTube keeps recommending the licking the toilet TikTok challenge.

02:03:58.000 Oh, jeez.

02:03:59.000 And I'm like, you know what the problem is?

02:04:00.000 And I'm going to be honest with everybody.

02:04:02.000 We started the show apolitical, but political topics were pop culture.

02:04:06.000 It was very because of COVID.

02:04:08.000 The election happened and we got very political.

02:04:11.000 Then over the next year, we drifted a little bit away from politics and did more, it was like often culture war headlines and things like that.

02:04:17.000 But then politics became more and more pronounced.

02:04:19.000 Trump getting arrested.

02:04:21.000 Everything became hyper, hyper political.

02:04:23.000 And then over the last year, we've had terror attacks.

02:04:26.000 So everything has just gotten to the apex of political, and it's drifted the core audience of this show into a heavier political space.

02:04:32.000 Even though it didn't really start out that way, it turned into it.

02:04:36.000 And I think we're drifting back away from it right now, and we probably need to, but then you've got AI market saturation and everything's kind of breaking up.

02:04:43.000 So I don't know what's going to happen.

02:04:44.000 All I know is I'm so over it, dude.

02:04:47.000 People like space weather.

02:04:48.000 I like space weather.

02:04:49.000 I did a space weather video today because it was more fun.

02:04:51.000 Yes.

02:04:51.000 You know what I mean?

02:04:52.000 Agreed.

02:04:53.000 Yeah.

02:04:53.000 There was a.

02:04:54.000 And yeah, go ahead.

02:04:55.000 I posted something in the Slack.

02:04:57.000 There was a allegedly there was a jet fell.

02:05:00.000 A jet that fell because of cosmic rays from a faraway supernova that wasn't.

02:05:06.000 But the magnetosphere is supposed to stop that from happening.

02:05:08.000 It's a big deal.

02:05:08.000 Yeah.

02:05:09.000 Yeah.

02:05:09.000 So.

02:05:10.000 So we're going to go to Rumble.

02:05:11.000 We're going to go to rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.

02:05:14.000 Come hang out.

02:05:15.000 We're not talking about space weather.

02:05:17.000 We're going to talk about uncensored, naughty things.

02:05:20.000 There's actually a lot of stories we didn't get to.

02:05:23.000 They're reporting that Speaker Mike Johnson might retire, which I doubt.

02:05:25.000 It's just like Democrat propaganda, but we'll get there.

02:05:28.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.

02:05:30.000 Naomi, do you want to shout anything out?

02:05:32.000 I'm on X as Naomi Zeipt.

02:05:32.000 Thank you.

02:05:35.000 So my last name is spelled S-E-I-B-T, which is a bit difficult for Americans.

02:05:40.000 So Naomi and then S-E-I-B-T on X. I'm not on any other platform, just mostly because they would probably ban me.

02:05:47.000 And I like X.

02:05:48.000 I support what Elon Musk is doing.

02:05:49.000 I think that's great.

02:05:50.000 So I will continue to say on X. Awesome.

02:05:52.000 Guys, I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

02:05:54.000 Follow me on X under Raymond G. Sale Jr.

02:05:56.000 I'm going to be heading over to the inverted world right now to help out Mr. Brendan Miner.

02:06:00.000 We're going to do a show talking about what they talk about, good times, and join the Discord because that's freaking fun.

02:06:06.000 I was on there last night after this show talking to folks about the drunk raccoon.

02:06:10.000 It was hilarious for everyone.

02:06:10.000 Blast.

02:06:12.000 And Miss Naomi, best of luck to Germany.

02:06:15.000 Hopefully, you guys can get back to where you once were 60 years ago and you can make America great again.

02:06:20.000 So best of luck.

02:06:21.000 You want communism back?

02:06:23.000 60 years ago, East Germany was part of the community family.

02:06:27.000 Yes, Phil.

02:06:30.000 Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms.

02:06:30.000 Brett.

02:06:37.000 PCC has been off this week live, but I've been putting out segments the whole time.

02:06:41.000 So go over to the channel and check those out.

02:06:43.000 Also, I've been putting out several different audio podcasts.

02:06:46.000 We had a hiccup with the RSS feed.

02:06:48.000 It was not going out on Spotify.

02:06:50.000 That does seem to be rectified.

02:06:52.000 So if you are a Spotify listener, you can go find those shows that I was doing over there.

02:06:55.000 I have another two coming out, one tomorrow, one today with Mikey Harlow, another one tomorrow, and another one the day after that.

02:07:01.000 So stuff coming out all the way through Saturday.

02:07:03.000 And then we pick back up the live show on Tuesday.

02:07:06.000 Monday, we are doing a pre-record.

02:07:07.000 Me and Mary will be back.

02:07:08.000 And then we will be back live on Tuesday.

02:07:10.000 So go to PCC on both YouTube and Rumble, and we'll see you there, guys.

02:07:14.000 Thank you.

02:07:15.000 I am Phil that remains on Twix.

02:07:17.000 The band is all that remains.

02:07:18.000 We have a big announcement with Rocksmith this weekend.

02:07:21.000 You can play two songs from this record here: Anti-Fragile.

02:07:24.000 You can play Let You Go and Divine for free from December 5th through the 7th, Rocksmith on PC, mobile, or on PlayStation.

02:07:32.000 So go check that out.

02:07:33.000 You can check out the band on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.

02:07:38.000 Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

02:07:40.000 We will see you all over at rumble.com/slash tubecast IRL.

02:07:43.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:08:30.000 Yeah, I don't know if you still started the podcast.

02:08:33.000 Someone's watching PCC on a Wii.

02:08:35.000 Yeah.

02:08:36.000 Yeah.

02:08:37.000 I don't know if he still does, but in 2023, we had one viewer.

02:08:40.000 You could look in the analytics who's watching it on a Nintendo Wii.

02:08:43.000 It's hilarious that it's one individual guy.

02:08:45.000 So, Naomi, let's talk a little bit about how your government was trying to kill you. 0.99

02:08:48.000 What happened?

02:08:49.000 Sure, yeah.

02:08:50.000 They started investigating me in 2019, and I got a whole intelligence report where they told me that my name is in the intelligence database at least 1,000 times.

02:09:01.000 And then an ex-Army intelligence guy from America messaged me just a few months ago on X and told me that he was stationed in Germany between 2023 and 2024.

02:09:11.000 And he saw my name all over the German intelligence database.

02:09:14.000 And he told me they have been intercepting your communications, WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal.

02:09:19.000 Nothing is safe.

02:09:20.000 I know stuff about your family from 2023.

02:09:23.000 I know that you were in a very dire situation with your health and everything.

02:09:26.000 He was giving me details about conversations that I had with my cousin from that time, which nobody could have known.

02:09:33.000 So he was not lying.

02:09:35.000 During that time, I was deathly ill, so I was not even political or anything.

02:09:38.000 So they actually were intercepting my communications for years, even when I was not politically relevant at all.

02:09:44.000 And he also informed me that this is because they actually reached out to American intelligence, apparently under the Biden administration, because they wanted to know what kinds of connections I had to American companies and American individuals who supported the MAGA movement.

02:09:44.000 Wow.

02:09:57.000 Yeah.

02:10:00.000 Do you think you're going to get they'll grant you asylum?

02:10:03.000 Ana Paulina Luna says yes.

02:10:05.000 If I just wanted to stay in America, then I would have, then I would have just applied for a journalism visa or something like that.

02:10:10.000 Then I could stay in America for maybe four years.

02:10:13.000 So the chances of me getting that would have been much higher, but I'm genuinely seeking protection from the American government.

02:10:19.000 From the American government?

02:10:20.000 Yes, from the U.S. government.

02:10:22.000 I want protection.

02:10:24.000 Not protection.

02:10:25.000 Oh, them to protect.

02:10:27.000 You said I'm seeking protection from the government.

02:10:27.000 Right.

02:10:29.000 From the U.S. government.

02:10:30.000 We're usually just scared for the about government.

02:10:33.000 If I were to say, I need protection from Phil, it usually means Phil is threatening.

02:10:38.000 I understand.

02:10:39.000 I get what you mean.

02:10:39.000 Yeah, okay.

02:10:40.000 No, like protection in this.

02:10:42.000 But it does work.

02:10:45.000 It is grammatically correct.

02:10:46.000 Yes.

02:10:47.000 There's so many things that happen like that.

02:10:49.000 Like I was reading a comment the other day that said Brett only talks about, only gets to talk about the stuff that he likes.

02:10:56.000 Like the way this guy phrased his statement about something in the comment made perfect sense to me as if he was criticizing me, but he's actually criticizing Mary.

02:11:06.000 Drag. 1.00

02:11:08.000 So I'm very, very, very negative right now.

02:11:13.000 I don't know if blackpilled is the right word.

02:11:15.000 Maybe blackpilled is the perfect word. 1.00

02:11:17.000 I am very blackpilled.

02:11:19.000 And it's funny because people call me blackpilled for a long time, but I was never really to this point where now I'm like, dude, I was playing poker and this guy told me Candace is right about everything.

02:11:31.000 The Shapiros killed Charlie Kirk. 1.00

02:11:32.000 That's literally what he said.

02:11:34.000 Like I said, somebody yesterday was talking about turning point assassins and they were trying to get her in the studio so they could observe her security.

02:11:41.000 And I'm just like, I'm checked out, bro.

02:11:42.000 Whacked.

02:11:43.000 Yeah.

02:11:43.000 Just whack.

02:11:44.000 I just, I mentioned it was demoralizing a few weeks ago.

02:11:48.000 And what's demoralizing is that this is what people care about more than anything else.

02:11:52.000 And so it's kind of like a realization. 0.99

02:11:54.000 I always kind of knew this, that no one actually gives a shit about whether this country works or not. 0.95

02:11:59.000 They just care about being part of a tribe that wins. 0.98

02:12:02.000 Lizels is entertainment, right?

02:12:04.000 It's the same reason people listen to Mr. Balin, right?

02:12:04.000 They just look at it.

02:12:07.000 Like people just want to hear these stories told.

02:12:10.000 I think that there's a good amount of distance that comes when you watch this stuff on YouTube or Rumble, that you stop perceiving it as current events and things that are actually happening in the world.

02:12:20.000 And it starts becoming like a telenovela.

02:12:23.000 My view of Democrats is that they are fully cognizant of everything we're talking about, but their worldview is, I mean, this is not even, this is a fact.

02:12:33.000 It's how they feel. 1.00

02:12:34.000 People are stupid. 1.00

02:12:36.000 They should work at McDonald's and break rocks. 1.00

02:12:39.000 Just keep the retards happy. 1.00

02:12:40.000 And then you get to be special class and you're protected.

02:12:43.000 If you're wealthy and smart, you don't go to jail.

02:12:45.000 You can do whatever you want.

02:12:46.000 That's the Hillary Clinton reality. 1.00

02:12:48.000 That's the world that she wanted.

02:12:50.000 And the Trump reality is on its face.

02:12:56.000 Constitution, you have proper legal proceedings.

02:12:59.000 Criminals go to jail.

02:13:01.000 And I think Candace is more in the Hillary Clinton camp, where her reality is who cares about the system? 1.00

02:13:09.000 Get rich, fuck everybody else. 1.00

02:13:12.000 The retards can be left wanting. 1.00

02:13:14.000 You know, like the people following her, no one's life is going to get better from it. 0.64

02:13:17.000 But you know what?

02:13:17.000 They don't want their lives to get better.

02:13:20.000 They want to hear more murder mystery stuff.

02:13:22.000 So then the question is, if she can easily undermine the political message, and perhaps you're right now me, she's not the biggest issue, but strong enough if she can create this issue where Megan Kelly is now at odds with Ben Shapiro and she's just one component of it.

02:13:40.000 But if it's that easy to undermine and it's so difficult to build, it's really demoralizing. 0.98

02:13:47.000 It's a lot easier to make money doing other shit. 0.92

02:13:51.000 One of the most annoying things was that during the height of like the Trump administration and the culture war, people were saying, Tim Poole's only saying these things so he can make money. 1.00

02:13:59.000 And I'm like, holy fuck, bro. 0.98

02:14:01.000 I can make way better money. 1.00

02:14:03.000 Bro, okay, I play poker all the time.

02:14:05.000 I'm sitting at a poker table with an ultra-rich guy who's throwing money around. 0.99

02:14:08.000 He doesn't give a shit. 0.99

02:14:09.000 Why? 0.99

02:14:09.000 He opened like 10 laundromats. 0.99

02:14:12.000 And now he makes like $3 million a month.

02:14:14.000 You know, not from 10 laundromats, but like, there's a guy with a bunch of car dealerships.

02:14:18.000 He makes millions of dollars per month cash for himself.

02:14:21.000 Never works.

02:14:22.000 He makes a few phone calls, talks with his managers, but he's got, he has a district manager who manages all the businesses.

02:14:28.000 And then that guy gets paid a couple hundred thousand a year and then he just makes millions of dollars.

02:14:32.000 Dude, one dude opens a bunch of laundromats and he makes hundreds of thousands of dollars, something like that. 0.95

02:14:36.000 It's ridiculous.

02:14:37.000 Laundromats are turnkey businesses. 0.89

02:14:39.000 You don't do anything.

02:14:40.000 You own it.

02:14:40.000 You make sure the machines are working.

02:14:41.000 You get them repaired.

02:14:42.000 You don't go there. 1.00

02:14:44.000 People, fuck me, dude. 1.00

02:14:46.000 I'd be better off owning a bunch of burger joints than, you know, I'd be better off owning a ship of a fleet of fishing vessels where I could be a fisherman instead of meddling in the politics of man. 1.00

02:15:01.000 Makes me think of Prima Songs.

02:15:04.000 So yeah, this is the most blackpilled I think I've ever been. 0.81

02:15:08.000 And it's really coming down to the death of Charlie Kirk.

02:15:12.000 And everything that's come afterwards is disarray, confusion, anger, and fighting.

02:15:16.000 And for what? 0.98

02:15:18.000 So that a bunch of people can rally around retard conspiracy bullshit from Candace. 1.00

02:15:24.000 Damn. 1.00

02:15:25.000 Yeah, unfortunately, I perceived that sentiment from Elon Musk, too. 1.00

02:15:25.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

02:15:28.000 I spoke to him about it, and he was very blackpilled on the death of Charlie Kirk, which is why it's at least beautiful to see that he's reuniting with President Trump. 0.65

02:15:38.000 But at the same time, he said that he saw so much potential in turning point USA.

02:15:44.000 And if there was to be another movement that would be formed, I asked him who could be the best leader for this.

02:15:49.000 And he said Charlie Kirk, but they killed him.

02:15:52.000 Yep.

02:15:53.000 And it was perfect for the left.

02:15:58.000 The assassination of Charlie Kirk was victory for them.

02:16:01.000 There's been no drawbacks.

02:16:03.000 They've not had any scrutiny.

02:16:06.000 In fact, Candace is doing everything in everything in her power.

02:16:10.000 We had a leftist killing him.

02:16:12.000 But they are not the ones who are being targeted for it.

02:16:12.000 Yeah.

02:16:15.000 Yep.

02:16:16.000 Can I tweet that?

02:16:17.000 I mean, I'm stealing it from you.

02:16:19.000 I don't know if you want to tweet or you want to.

02:16:20.000 I can credit you if you want.

02:16:20.000 Oh, no, you can steal it.

02:16:21.000 Oh, you don't have to.

02:16:22.000 It's okay.

02:16:23.000 Yeah.

02:16:24.000 I mean, the leftists.

02:16:25.000 Today, there's a polling, a leftist polling account on X, and he was swearing up and down that it wasn't a leftist that killed Charlie Kirk.

02:16:35.000 They still have.

02:16:36.000 And I think that that might be a fairly common opinion that the person that killed Charlie Kirk was not a leftist.

02:16:43.000 The second anything comes out, they start poisoning the well immediately.

02:16:46.000 That's why all the Jimmy Kimmel stuff happened. 0.98

02:16:49.000 Why you use the bullshit weasel words that he used during his monologue to talk about the MAGA gang spent the whole weekend trying to pretend like the guy who killed Charlie Kirk wasn't one of them or whatever the hell he was saying. 0.93

02:17:02.000 But the whole point of it was to make people think that what was happening wasn't what happened. 0.98

02:17:09.000 Every now and then on Instagram, I see these types of conspiracy theory videos, sometimes also crediting Candace Owens about turning point USA, killing Charlie.

02:17:18.000 And in the majority of cases, they are leftists.

02:17:21.000 Yeah.

02:17:21.000 They're definitely leftists.

02:17:23.000 This is a very popular conspiracy theory on the left.

02:17:26.000 And then I think, wait, I thought we were the conspiracy theorists allegedly years ago, and now they are echoing what Candice Owens is saying.

02:17:33.000 That's pretty crazy.

02:17:34.000 I mean, they were always conspiracy theorists too, because they believed Russia gate.

02:17:38.000 Well, not only that, I mean, look, the idea that the whole, everything that Black Lives Matter was built on was a conspiracy. 0.87

02:17:45.000 The idea that black men were being hunted by police.

02:17:48.000 LeBron James said black men are being hunted by police. 0.91

02:17:52.000 That is a flat-out lie.

02:17:54.000 It has never been true.

02:17:56.000 And it literally caused, it's caused a massive breakdown in race relations in the United States.

02:18:02.000 I think in conjunction with the left focusing on race so much.

02:18:07.000 But it's also caused the absolute breakdown of any political dialogue.

02:18:15.000 You know, if people think, oh, black people are actually being hunted, you know, that justifies all of the riots that happened in 2020.

02:18:23.000 It's like when you hear them ask, like, they say, how many unarmed black men do you think were shot and killed by a police officer last year?

02:18:30.000 They're always like, a thousand?

02:18:31.000 Yeah.

02:18:31.000 10,000?

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