Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 19, 2025


Jimmy Kimmel Refuses To Apologize Over Charlie Kirk Comments, Blames Gun Violence | Timcast IRL


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2 hours and 16 minutes

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191.1749

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26,089

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1,818

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

40


Summary


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00:02:31.000 Liberals are calling for a boycott of all things Disney because Jimmy Kimmel has been pulled off the air.
00:02:37.000 And we're now learning a little bit more about what happened behind the scenes with why Jimmy Kimmel was pulled off the air.
00:02:44.000 And it appears it's not so much that he made fun of Charlie Kirk.
00:02:47.000 Initially, it's being reported that executives were actually behind him and said they weren't gonna take him off the air, that what he said was actually fun until it now seems Jimmy Kimmel said he was going to double down with an even more offensive monologue, controversial monologue.
00:03:03.000 And uh perhaps then is when they said, okay, Jimmy, now we're gonna have to stop you.
00:03:08.000 The funny thing is Democrats are apoplectic, liberals are freaking out.
00:03:12.000 They are more concerned over the cancellation of a comedian they did not watch than the life of Charlie Kirk.
00:03:20.000 So spare me.
00:03:21.000 When y'all come out screaming as if the apocalypse just happened, because um Roseanne would like to have a word for uh have a word here, you know.
00:03:29.000 Uh they took her down over a joke, and Jimmy Kimmel mocked her, and Brian Stalter mocked her, and basically all the liberals made fun of her and Magnus Kelly and Tucker Carlson and cheered for it.
00:03:38.000 So why should we actually care?
00:03:39.000 Now the FCC's Brendan Carr says he's actually not done.
00:03:43.000 More is going to come.
00:03:44.000 So we're gonna talk about that.
00:03:46.000 Plus there's a lot to break down in this story, and it's basically dominating the coverage we have tonight.
00:03:50.000 Although there is still some other big news.
00:03:53.000 A congressional staffer in Texas for a Republican was found immolated.
00:03:58.000 And they're saying no foul play, but the story is very strange because I'm not sure how someone is accidentally immolated.
00:04:05.000 It's just something you don't see every day.
00:04:07.000 And so we're gonna read into that.
00:04:09.000 And then there was a threat made against the governor of New Hampshire.
00:04:13.000 It is strange and it is terrifying that this news keeps happening.
00:04:17.000 But we'll keep it to the comedy world and the free speech arguments.
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00:06:42.000 You know, joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is John Reed.
00:06:45.000 Hey, I'm glad to be with you tonight.
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00:08:14.000 Hi, everyone.
00:08:15.000 My name is Mary Morgan, and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast.
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00:08:22.000 Hello, everybody.
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00:08:28.000 Here's the story from Mediaite.
00:08:28.000 Let's get into it.
00:08:30.000 Kimmel was reportedly about to give controversial monologue when he was suspended.
00:08:35.000 Quote, he has to take down the temperature.
00:08:38.000 So there's been a couple different uh additions to this story.
00:08:41.000 Yesterday, in the middle of the show, we learned that he was not planning on apologizing.
00:08:46.000 Take a look at this.
00:08:46.000 When asked by the Hollywood reporter, the source said Kimmel was not planning on apologizing.
00:08:50.000 He felt that what he said did not require an apology.
00:08:53.000 Media reports, according to CNN, which spoke to an unnamed source familiar with the situation.
00:08:58.000 Kimmel was preparing to deliver a monologue on Wednesday, even uh evening, addressing the backlash he had received for another monologue that week about the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:09:06.000 The Wednesday monologue was described by CNN source as very hot and over would have reportedly targeted President Trump's MAGA base.
00:09:14.000 Quote, if Jimmy went on the air, there would have been no way back from that monologue for Jimmy.
00:09:19.000 We didn't want that.
00:09:20.000 Everyone deeply values him and wants him to come back, but he has to take down the temperature.
00:09:25.000 After publishing the sources, quote Thursday, it's CNN stealth edited its article removing the first half.
00:09:31.000 This is crazy, right?
00:09:32.000 Everyone deeply values him and wants him to come back, but he has to take down the temperature.
00:09:36.000 The decision to suspend Kimmel's show was reportedly made by Disney CEO Bob Iger and coach uh and Disney's co-chair Dana Walden in hopes of protecting Kimmel and the Disney brand from accelerating the controversy.
00:09:49.000 The author of the article, CNN Entertainment Correspondent Elizabeth Wagmeister previously suggested on Wednesday that it was unlikely Jimmy Kimmel live would return to television anytime soon.
00:09:59.000 So now we have a very clear picture.
00:10:01.000 Jimmy Kimmel is not sorry.
00:10:03.000 He does not want to apologize.
00:10:05.000 In fact, he wanted to go further with it, and they described it as very hot.
00:10:10.000 And let's just say it.
00:10:16.000 And you know what I think?
00:10:18.000 I said this yesterday.
00:10:19.000 That these executives, the reason why they're basically shutting down these employees that are praising the death of Charlie Kirk, calling for more or fanning the flames, is they're probably thinking they're next.
00:10:31.000 Nobody wants to be in the crosshairs.
00:10:33.000 And if you're a media executive at a time when you've got two sides blaming the media, their edit is probably sit down and shut up.
00:10:41.000 Jimmy Kimmel said, nah, nah, I'm gonna double down.
00:10:43.000 And so this is crazy because the initial reporting was that they were behind him, and they said, you know what, you don't gotta say anything.
00:10:48.000 Jimmy, your your monologue was fine.
00:10:50.000 And then apparently he said, nah, I'm gonna I'm gonna make it even worse.
00:10:53.000 So they pulled him for his own good.
00:10:56.000 This is the rage cult.
00:10:57.000 This is the death cult.
00:10:59.000 They are more angry about Jimmy Kimmel losing his show, despite the fact Roseanne, Meghan Kelly, Tucker Carlson also got pulled off the air.
00:11:06.000 They're more concerned about that than the assassination of a young man in front of his wife and children.
00:11:12.000 This is where we are as a country.
00:11:14.000 Now he issued a statement, and I'll give him some credit for it.
00:11:16.000 He said, instead of the angry finger pointing, can we just for one day agree that it is horrible and monstrous to shoot another human?
00:11:22.000 I'm gonna pause right there and say, Thank you, Jimmy.
00:11:24.000 That's correct.
00:11:25.000 That is absolutely horrible.
00:11:26.000 And then he goes on to say, on behalf of my family, we send love to the Kirks and to all the children, parents and innocents who fall victim to senseless gun violence.
00:11:38.000 The back half is where he deflects from the actual issue at hand, his inflaming of political tensions, the overt political killing of a young man in front of his family in broad daylight and cold blood to make it about gun control, which wasn't the issue.
00:11:57.000 This man has no remorse and no shame.
00:12:00.000 And what is worrying to me is none of these other liberals do as well.
00:12:04.000 If the if the report is true, and then he did have a more inflammatory monologue planned, um, maybe it was actually the responsible thing to do to take him off the air.
00:12:17.000 I mean, look.
00:12:19.000 As far as like principles go, he he shouldn't have been, but he shouldn't have been taken off the air.
00:12:25.000 But again, um let me finish.
00:12:28.000 But the point but the fact that the left has been doing this to the right for a decade, um, I think that kind of puts us puts us in a position where that kind of that kind of principled stance has proven to be useless nowadays.
00:12:46.000 It's still not clear on what principles you're principle of free speech.
00:12:49.000 So, like if you don't think this is violated a principle of sp of free speech at all.
00:12:54.000 Well, because in order to have freedom of speech, you do have to have ground rules, and he's not following them.
00:12:54.000 Why?
00:13:00.000 What do you mean ground rules of ideas?
00:13:03.000 In order to have a free marketplace of ideas, there need to be basic ground rules, and the people engaging in dialogue with each other at least have to have certain basic foundations in common.
00:13:16.000 And one of them is being on the same page about the morality of an action like senseless cold-blooded murder.
00:13:23.000 If we don't have that, uh, then we need to set about creating an environment of order rather than of freedom.
00:13:31.000 I I I I agree, not entirely, but enough.
00:13:34.000 And what I would say to this is the reason why I don't care about Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy Kimmel uh Kimmel getting fired is largely for what you were describing, in that we do not have a shared moral worldview.
00:13:46.000 Jimmy Kimmel is a willful liar for the purpose of creating problems, fear, pain, and suffering.
00:13:51.000 And we every day try to shine a light on what's going on.
00:13:55.000 My attitude is the people should have the knowledge to the best of our abilities to convey so they can make the decisions for themselves.
00:14:02.000 I want nothing more than to leave you alone, mind my own business, but hope that you with correct information will do good.
00:14:10.000 We'll do well.
00:14:11.000 Jimmy Kimmel is the inverse, where he says, I'm going to lie to you, so you do what I want, and that leads to death.
00:14:17.000 If if I were a Disney executive, I would say, what am I paying you for?
00:14:20.000 It's a comedy show.
00:14:21.000 Where's the comedy here?
00:14:22.000 This is not funny.
00:14:23.000 You're not a talk show host.
00:14:25.000 I mean, maybe there are different parameters if you're doing a hardcore uh free-for-all talk show.
00:14:31.000 This is an evening comedy show that presumably adults watch right before they fall asleep at night.
00:14:37.000 And I think that's been part of the problem.
00:14:39.000 That's why these shows are losing their audience.
00:14:42.000 They're hyper political.
00:14:43.000 They're not funny.
00:14:44.000 They're funny in a mean way because they go after conservatives, and the leftists think that's so great to watch people um bitch slap conservatives verbally, and that's that's the appeal of the show.
00:14:56.000 It's one reason I don't watch that stuff anymore, and I used to.
00:14:59.000 Mary, to your point, like I think that's what I was getting to at like the second half of my comment, right?
00:15:05.000 If you're going to talk about a principled stance, if you're gonna say, well, I have the principle of free speech, and I think that you should be able to say whatever you want just so long as it's not specifically inciting.
00:15:13.000 That's the principled stance.
00:15:14.000 But the follow-up to that, which which I was saying was basically in line with with what you're saying.
00:15:21.000 Like we're in a situation where the ground rules aren't the same for everybody, and the left has been doing this.
00:15:26.000 And you look at the way the left has been reacting, they're saying, Oh, all these people, how come, you know, how come you're you were so pro-free speech before, but now you're not?
00:15:34.000 It's like the left wanted it this way.
00:15:36.000 Real real quick, just uh there's an alert that went about 40 minutes ago, right before we started the show.
00:15:41.000 Unconfirmed reports of a gunman on uh UNC Wilmington campus, they're advising everyone a shelter in place.
00:15:48.000 So uh if you haven't heard that, please look into it.
00:15:51.000 Hope everybody is okay.
00:15:52.000 And um, based on the video I've seen, I don't know how credit credible the reports is.
00:15:56.000 There's a video of a man walking carrying some kind of long gun, but I don't know about how uh what this is uh this is uh North Carolina.
00:16:06.000 Just because someone's seen with a weapon doesn't mean anything happened yet, but please look into it and we'll take that seriously.
00:16:11.000 And uh anyway, back to the uh point about free speech.
00:16:14.000 Just want to make sure that you know people are safe.
00:16:16.000 But yeah, I mean, I I just don't think that I don't think that this even is again uh I don't think that free speech is the issue at hand.
00:16:25.000 People will try and make it about free speech, but it really is about the the inflammatory nature of the way that the left has been talking, talking about the right and the the results of that have been murder now.
00:16:38.000 I just I just don't really care at all anymore.
00:16:41.000 Um we we believe in freedom of movement.
00:16:44.000 We believe that individuals can move between states and cities and then uh violence breaks out and the police set up barriers saying nobody can cross, and we have no problem with that, right?
00:16:54.000 If uh if there's a if there's a riot or shootings taking place and the police block the street with their car and they say you can't go through here, we don't go, hey man, you're violating my right to we go extenuating circumstances.
00:17:05.000 There are circumstances where we recognize rights will be infringed upon, I suppose is one way to describe it, but I don't know what else you do.
00:17:13.000 And so my view is largely when they are killing people, when the death threats have reached such an extreme degree, when we are in a political environment where Charlie Kirk was assassinated and they celebrated it, there comes a point where you say we have to be a little bit more serious about how we enforce the law than to just take the the the the light approach.
00:17:39.000 And the best example I can give is whereas five years ago, if someone tweeted something like, Oh, won't someone rid me of this a lot eliahoo, we would all say, okay, like we get the point.
00:17:52.000 Today, if someone tweeted, oh, won't someone get rid of this a lot early out, I'd I'd say that's a death threat, and they should be they should be charged for it.
00:18:00.000 Uh and the reason why is well let me elaborate as well.
00:18:04.000 I believe the context of the person's character and and uh social feeds matter for this.
00:18:09.000 So there was a video uh I I recorded earlier on the uh Tim Poole channel.
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00:18:17.000 Michael Knowles was talking about why we should prosecute Destiny and Hassan Piker.
00:18:22.000 Literal criminal prosecution for the statements they've made.
00:18:25.000 I don't know about destiny.
00:18:26.000 Uh Destiny said if you want if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have president have been president in second term.
00:18:33.000 And he also said that conservatives should be made to fear, should have to fear death or something that effect, which can only be done when conservatives are being killed.
00:18:40.000 However, Hassan sent a photo, this is my understanding from Michael Nose's video, a photo of a makeshift weapon that was used to assassinate a political leader to a politician.
00:18:51.000 Now, again, that's that's my understanding from the video.
00:18:54.000 If that wasn't the case, whatever.
00:18:55.000 I'm using it to illustrate a point.
00:18:57.000 If someone has a history of saying things like, let the streets run red with their blood, kill them, like Hassan has, and then in the event he sends a photo of a makeshift weapon that was used in an assassination, the intent is clear.
00:19:12.000 However, if there is a mechanic who uh mythbusters, right?
00:19:16.000 If uh one of the mythbusters guys sent a picture of this weapon to somebody, we'd be like, What's he trying to say by that?
00:19:22.000 I don't think the mythbusters guy is threatening me with death, and he does in context talk about makeshift devices and things like that.
00:19:29.000 So the context there is different.
00:19:31.000 In the past, we have seen what I refer to as the tweed-deed tweedledumb death threat, where one person would say, you know, we really should be rid of these priests, and then someone would point at a lot and say, That's the priest, you know what they're doing.
00:19:43.000 Each individual statement is not a death threat.
00:19:45.000 Together it is, but you can't prosecute either of them.
00:19:47.000 I say, now we should.
00:19:49.000 The half statement counts.
00:19:51.000 If you are standing next to somebody and you say, go kill Nazis, and the person says they're the Nazi, you're both under arrest because you both issued a death threat.
00:19:57.000 And I'm done playing these stupid games.
00:19:59.000 So when people are like, the free speech of Jimmy Kimmel.
00:20:02.000 No, I'm not playing this game anymore.
00:20:04.000 He, first of all, nobody watches his show anyway.
00:20:06.000 His ratings were collapsing.
00:20:08.000 But to go on TV and lie and this is this is evil.
00:20:13.000 We are fighting people who are trying to get us killed.
00:20:17.000 There are people who are posting lists online, and I've said this the past several nights, the past week, because it's happening.
00:20:23.000 We're submitting this to the FBI, where they're saying, kill these people next.
00:20:27.000 They're saying or the it's more uh vague than that.
00:20:29.000 They're saying, hey, you should do this next, and it's a list of people's names like mine, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, whatever.
00:20:35.000 So when Jimmy Kimmel goes on his show, while Democrats are all celebrating this death, saying there should be more, justifying it, and then he goes, the guy was a MAGA guy anyway.
00:20:47.000 Now you've got a problem of a critical mass of people who are going to start more murders, more riots.
00:20:55.000 And I have zero sympathy for Jimmy Kimball.
00:20:57.000 I literally don't care.
00:20:58.000 I literally don't.
00:20:59.000 And uh on top of that, while I do agree with the idea of free speech, if you want to make jokes, I'm drawing the line at what Jimmy Kimmel did for mocking Trump.
00:21:07.000 That's fine.
00:21:08.000 He wants to make fun of Trump, he can be a dick.
00:21:10.000 Lying about the intent of a mass shooter to inflame an audience and potentially lead this country to serious conflict and crisis is nuts.
00:21:18.000 And I'll just say this.
00:21:20.000 There is a fine line.
00:21:22.000 What would happen?
00:21:23.000 Let me ask you guys, if Jimmy Kimmel went on his show and said, I think everybody should use violence to defy Donald Trump.
00:21:30.000 What do you think would happen if he did that?
00:21:32.000 He'd he'd be taken off the air in two seconds.
00:21:34.000 He'd probably be criminal charged with sedition or something.
00:21:37.000 He is doing one percent of that.
00:21:39.000 It's admittedly very, very small.
00:21:41.000 But I do not believe for a second that he did not know about the motive of the shooter.
00:21:48.000 I don't believe that for a second.
00:21:50.000 Which means any reasonable conclusion is that Jimmy Kimmel intentionally lied, fanning the flames, and for what reason?
00:21:58.000 Hatred, political libel.
00:22:01.000 What he spread was a blood libel against Trump supporters, Republicans, conservatives, whatever you want to group of people.
00:22:08.000 It's an intentional lie.
00:22:10.000 There's no way in his heart of hearts he actually thought Tyler Robinson, yeah, he's a Trump supporter.
00:22:15.000 Obviously that's not the case.
00:22:17.000 And I do think that it was a blood libel against Republicans or conservatives, ostensibly encouraging people, not in his face-to-face audience, but the larger audience that Watches him to take action against these dangerous people in our society.
00:22:35.000 And and and there was at least Charlie Kirk is one of them.
00:22:35.000 Yep.
00:22:39.000 There's no reason for him not to have come on the show and says, I I really don't get this.
00:22:44.000 He could have gone on the show and said, So it turns out that this shooter may have actually had uh left-leaning values.
00:22:51.000 Now, of course, we all reject that, don't we?
00:22:53.000 And they'd all clap in cheer.
00:22:54.000 He could have done that.
00:22:55.000 They'd have cheered for him, and he would have said, We're not going to be blamed for the actions of a madman, but we will denounce this because we're good.
00:23:01.000 He could have done that.
00:23:02.000 He said it was one of their own who did it.
00:23:02.000 He didn't.
00:23:05.000 And where the hammer comes down is when he said, according to this report from CNN, he was going to double down.
00:23:14.000 So when they went to him and said, hey, guy, behind the scenes, it wasn't a MAGA guy.
00:23:19.000 He said, I don't care.
00:23:20.000 He said, I'm gonna double down.
00:23:22.000 Now that is intent.
00:23:24.000 He was trying to make things dangerous and worse in this country.
00:23:28.000 There's a there's a point at which you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
00:23:34.000 Uh we say uh people many people wrongly state you can't yell fire uh fire in a crowded theater.
00:23:41.000 You literally can.
00:23:42.000 I think it's Brandon Berg v.
00:23:43.000 Ohio.
00:23:44.000 You can.
00:23:44.000 Nothing's stopping you from doing it.
00:23:46.000 However, there's a circumstance where you can't yell fire.
00:23:50.000 And what would that be?
00:23:52.000 Let's just say there's 10 guys with rifles aimed at an innocent person and you yell fire.
00:23:58.000 It's a ridiculous analogy, but my point is clear.
00:24:00.000 When the speech you normally say, in and of itself has no bear.
00:24:05.000 Imagine if you were standing in an empty field and a guy walks by and you yell, fire, the guy would go, huh?
00:24:10.000 Now imagine if you're standing with a bunch of men with guns and yellow fire.
00:24:13.000 The context is very, very different.
00:24:14.000 If Jimmy Kimmel's intent in context is to ignite a throw a spark on a on a pile of Tinder, then I think we say enough and and we don't let him do it.
00:24:24.000 I think they were looking for an excuse to get rid of him anyway, as you pointed out.
00:24:28.000 His ratings are lower than Steven Colbert's even were before he got pulled.
00:24:33.000 So let's pull it in a way.
00:24:35.000 It was inevitable.
00:24:36.000 Let's pull it up.
00:24:36.000 We got this report from Sky.com.
00:24:39.000 Kimmel fired for lack of talent.
00:24:41.000 Trump says as Obama decries government coercion.
00:24:45.000 Kimmel used his show and money to criticize Donald Trump for his response to the assassination of Kirk, among other things.
00:24:50.000 Now, Trump's not wrong.
00:24:51.000 The New York Post says Jimmy Kimmel's ratings were plummeting before ABC suspended him for Charlie Kirk comments.
00:24:58.000 They say Nielsen data showed sharp summer declines and a year-long slide that leaves him trailing late night rivals, such as Fox News' Greg Gutfeld and Colbert.
00:25:09.000 According to monthly Nielsen figures, Jimmy Kimmel Live dropped to just 1.1 million total viewers in August, down 43% from January's 1.9 million.
00:25:21.000 His August household rating 0.35 marked the weakest showing of the year.
00:25:26.000 The advertiser, get this, get this.
00:25:29.000 The advertiser coveted 18 to 49 demo, also cratered.
00:25:34.000 Kimmel averaged only 129,000 viewers in that braggart in August.
00:25:40.000 Holy crap.
00:25:42.000 All from 212,000.
00:25:44.000 Um let me take this uh time to brag that while I was sick most of August and unable to work, the show hosted by Phil Labonte and with some special guests towards the end of the month, was still averaging around 500,000 in the key demo.
00:26:00.000 And don't get me wrong, where network television used to be, that's small.
00:26:05.000 That's very small.
00:26:06.000 Jimmy Kimmel at 129,000 viewers.
00:26:09.000 Yo, I think I got a video of a cat on my Instagram that does better than that.
00:26:13.000 That's not a joke.
00:26:14.000 I I literally, it's a video of a cat and it's looking like this.
00:26:18.000 Kimmel's the joke.
00:26:19.000 And it says, it says when it's already when when it's Tuesday, but you've already given it your all, and the cat's like just super tired, and it plays that song from Enya, you know, who can say?
00:26:28.000 And it's got like 500,000 views.
00:26:30.000 So I can post a cat meme and have a bigger show than Jimmy Kimmel.
00:26:35.000 That's why he got booted.
00:26:37.000 That's probably right.
00:26:38.000 It's a lousy show.
00:26:39.000 He's he's aging out of the key demo anyway.
00:26:42.000 I mean, I I think if you look, his audience has moved on.
00:26:46.000 The new audience isn't interested in him.
00:26:49.000 And I mean, you go back to Letterman.
00:26:51.000 Letterman was hilarious.
00:26:52.000 And then Letterman got mean and nasty and became uh hyper political, which nobody really needs to see on on this type of program.
00:27:02.000 And I I think it's one of the reasons that people are abandoning network TV in general.
00:27:08.000 It's kind of crazy.
00:27:09.000 He he loves crying on the show, doesn't he?
00:27:12.000 He's really the worst when it comes to the emotional outset.
00:27:16.000 This is the one gun incident that he hadn't cried.
00:27:18.000 He is psychologically unstable, needs help.
00:27:22.000 That much cannot be denied.
00:27:24.000 He has cried on camera way too many times.
00:27:26.000 I think he likes gets a thrill out of like forcing people to witness his vulnerability.
00:27:32.000 So that's like the first reason why he, in my opinion, is the worst of the late night hosts.
00:27:40.000 Um also because of who he used to be.
00:27:44.000 And I'm not shaming or saying that he should have remorse or regrets over the man show.
00:27:51.000 But it's really disturbing that Jimmy Kimmel then can be the same man as Jimmy Kimmel now.
00:27:57.000 That doesn't make sense to me.
00:27:58.000 It's not supposed to be a good one.
00:27:59.000 But with no consequence, he wants us to just forget about who he was in the 2000s.
00:28:06.000 When other people are not allowed to turn the page in their lives, they get completely canceled, no new opportunity to reinvent themselves.
00:28:13.000 That's what would have been a cancellation.
00:28:15.000 If someone went and clip farmed from the man show, posted a thread on X and everyone's up in arms about how he was such a chauvinist, and then people are calling for his show.
00:28:26.000 People did it, right?
00:28:27.000 That would be cancel culture.
00:28:28.000 People have done it, but it doesn't impact the lessons.
00:28:31.000 No, he didn't get cancelled for doing blackface.
00:28:33.000 He doesn't uh cancel.
00:28:35.000 Don't make us pull up the photos of his team.
00:28:37.000 Neither of us want that just because he's on the left.
00:28:39.000 I think the the crying on camera too is a virtue signal to awful's because they love that.
00:28:43.000 If you want to get like rich, affluent white liberal women, they love it when you cry for them.
00:28:48.000 I think that's what that's a virtue signal for.
00:28:49.000 Is it like a sadism thing?
00:28:51.000 Like they like to do it.
00:28:52.000 Like they like making men cry.
00:28:54.000 They like derive pleasure from trying to make weak men cry.
00:28:57.000 I think Bob Iger here is not letting a good crisis, a good crisis, a good crisis go to waste.
00:29:02.000 So while it's convenient, he's getting rid of Kimmel, the medium is dying, late night shows are dying.
00:29:07.000 But I don't think it's a good idea.
00:29:08.000 He wasn't doing very well before that, regardless.
00:29:10.000 But they're gonna just give him an on-ramp to come back.
00:29:13.000 They're already hinting at it now that they want it to be possible to bring back the Jimmy Kimmel live.
00:29:19.000 He's gonna go to our lemon ramp in the future soon The Wall Street Journal has this story.
00:29:23.000 Uh basically it was advertisers.
00:29:25.000 It wasn't just Next Star and Sinclair.
00:29:27.000 Advertisers had called who had already purchased slots.
00:29:30.000 And uh let me let me tell you guys, last week when the tragic news broke, and you know, we were all kind of suffering through this.
00:29:38.000 Not like we had it worse compared to the family or those who actually were there and had to deal with it.
00:29:42.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:29:45.000 I was asked, hey, are we gonna do ad reads?
00:29:47.000 And I was like, no way.
00:29:49.000 And it's it's it's like listen, tonight we have very, very awful news to report about someone we knew and the nightmarish the nightmare that is emerging in this country.
00:30:01.000 So from that day, the rest of the week, we did not do ad reads on IRL.
00:30:05.000 But there's another reason, and it's important to say, I know maybe a lot of people don't want to talk about it, but what brand wants to be the brand sponsorship of the death of a beloved personality?
00:30:18.000 So uh it was like when CNN ran that commercial from uh Chili's or whatever.
00:30:23.000 You guys remember this?
00:30:24.000 Yes.
00:30:25.000 It was like air raid sirens going off in Ukraine and bombs were like about to drop, and then all of a sudden it does a side-by-side where a guy's say shaking his butt and singing about drinking beers or something.
00:30:34.000 Yep, and everyone was like, This is the worst thing you could have ever done.
00:30:38.000 Imagine being an advertiser who already bought ad space on Jimmy Kimmel's show.
00:30:42.000 You hear him say this, and you're going, get my ad off that show.
00:30:45.000 So they all call ABC and say, do not run my ad on that man's show right now.
00:30:50.000 I don't want to deal with the boycott.
00:30:52.000 This is the lesson.
00:30:53.000 This is the Bud Light effect.
00:30:54.000 But if ABC was smart, they would have told him, hey, don't even talk about it.
00:31:00.000 You know, give people a distraction from this horrible news.
00:31:03.000 Run the show, be funny.
00:31:05.000 He's amusing.
00:31:05.000 They were smart.
00:31:06.000 They were smart.
00:31:07.000 Jimmy Kimmel said no.
00:31:08.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:31:09.000 At least he was gonna double down.
00:31:10.000 That's right.
00:31:11.000 He said he was go the reporting is that he was going to attack Trump supporters again.
00:31:16.000 And they were probably just like, okay, this man is unhinged.
00:31:20.000 I it sounds like you know, I'm I'm gonna give you my personal opinion.
00:31:23.000 I don't think the executives went, Jimmy, we don't think it's anything wrong.
00:31:28.000 So we think you should go go on with your show.
00:31:30.000 And then Jimmy goes, then I'm gonna double down.
00:31:32.000 Well, hold on there, Jimmy.
00:31:33.000 We don't think that's a good idea for your own good.
00:31:35.000 We're gonna stop your show.
00:31:36.000 There's no way in the span of a couple hours, they politely and calmly said, your show won't won't be aired.
00:31:42.000 Sorry, Jimmy.
00:31:43.000 I really doubt it.
00:31:44.000 I think they probably said, do not do it.
00:31:46.000 And he said, I'm gonna do it.
00:31:47.000 And they said, Don't do it.
00:31:47.000 He goes, I'm gonna do it anyway.
00:31:48.000 And they said, Jimmy, I swear to God, if you go out there and that's your intent, you will not do this show.
00:31:53.000 And he said, I will not have you stop me.
00:31:55.000 I'm willing to bet it was much more contentious.
00:31:57.000 And Jimmy, listen, it's actually quite simple.
00:32:01.000 The reporting says that they wanted to bring the temperature down.
00:32:03.000 If Jimmy Kimmel came out with an apology, everything would have been fine.
00:32:07.000 Jimmy Kimmel was going to double down and was refusing to apologize.
00:32:11.000 That sounds to me like he argued with the executive saying, I refuse to apologize.
00:32:15.000 So they said then no more show for you.
00:32:17.000 He probably didn't even have to apologize.
00:32:18.000 He probably just had to do a comedy show without a lot of slamming Trump supporters.
00:32:24.000 Seriously, that's all you have to do.
00:32:26.000 I mean, do we have to infuse everything with politics?
00:32:29.000 I do politics.
00:32:30.000 I did a talk show for eight years.
00:32:32.000 It was all politics.
00:32:33.000 People would call and say, Why are you obsessed with politics?
00:32:35.000 I'm like, it's a political talk show.
00:32:37.000 I'm not doing a comedy show.
00:32:39.000 If I'm doing a comedy show, then I've got a lot of other stuff I can go work from.
00:32:42.000 If I don't get it.
00:32:44.000 If Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, or whoever, these let Seth Myers, if their comedy shows were actually just cultural comedy, you know who's really good at it?
00:32:54.000 Ryan Long.
00:32:55.000 Ryan Long's great at it.
00:32:58.000 He'd have a million in the view in the ratings.
00:33:00.000 He'd have one million in the key demo.
00:33:01.000 You know how I know?
00:33:02.000 You want to know how I know, guys?
00:33:03.000 Because Kill Tony does.
00:33:05.000 Because Kill Tony, every Monday night, does his stream and gets like one to two million viewers.
00:33:09.000 And it's largely key demographic.
00:33:11.000 Now, they talk about politics quite a bit, but to be fair, it's a stand-up show.
00:33:15.000 It's not an over a talk show.
00:33:18.000 But I am telling you, if you had Tony Henchcliffe hosting one of these late night shows and he was willing to dish it in any direction, you'd have a million views.
00:33:25.000 I'd be watching it.
00:33:26.000 Evenly.
00:33:27.000 I wouldn't I wouldn't say evenly, I would say fairly.
00:33:30.000 Yeah, it doesn't even have to be evenly.
00:33:31.000 Like if if if they have a preference to have um jokes about conservatives, but they weren't always malicious about it, and they had some jokes about uh Democrats or or progressives or whatever, I think that you'd see a lot less vitriol, but it was a lot a little a significantly fewer amount of people that were so that are so upset about Jimmy Kimmel and the way that he behaved.
00:33:53.000 But it was always in one direction, and it was always malicious.
00:33:57.000 There was it wasn't meant to be in fun.
00:33:59.000 There was no all we're all laughing here.
00:34:01.000 It was intended to be insults directed at one group of people all the time.
00:34:06.000 Right.
00:34:06.000 Can we uh just make things a little bit interesting?
00:34:09.000 Well, we'll get that in a little bit in a quick second, sorry.
00:34:13.000 Um let me let me read a little bit more from this article.
00:34:15.000 They say that Jimmy Kimmel's salary was reportedly 15 million to 16 million dollars a year, with some outlets noting the bonuses can push his annual earnings above 20 million.
00:34:25.000 How?
00:34:26.000 Where's that money coming from?
00:34:27.000 Now, let me just say, I run a business here at Timcast.
00:34:30.000 I I know all of our numbers where the money comes from, where the money goes.
00:34:34.000 And uh, based on the viewership that we get, which is much, much larger, we'd do all right.
00:34:40.000 We do all right.
00:34:41.000 But there's ain't no way anybody who works here is gonna be getting 20 million dollars a year.
00:34:45.000 So I got questions.
00:34:47.000 I got questions.
00:34:48.000 To be fair, a million in the ratings per night, depending on who you're selling to, boomers got a lot of money.
00:34:54.000 Most of those viewers are boomers, and his key demo ratings are no good.
00:34:58.000 The scary reality here, I guess, is that the key demo ain't the key demo no more.
00:35:01.000 18 to 49-year-olds ain't got any money.
00:35:04.000 So if you want to sell the product and you want to see that actually land, you really do want to be targeting 60 year olds because boomers are the only one with any real capital.
00:35:13.000 Well, so as you've pointed out, there are less of the 18 to 29 year olds in general.
00:35:20.000 That's exactly the boomers.
00:35:22.000 There are just less of them to go around.
00:35:24.000 Um, and his salary is not even to mention the salaries of all these people working on his show, which is probably it might be around a hundred people total.
00:35:34.000 I don't know, maybe hundreds.
00:35:36.000 If we get if we get to the the administrative bloat territory, it's probably hundreds of people whose livelihoods depend on this show, and Jimmy Kimmel just covered that in gasoline and threw the match.
00:35:48.000 I want to jump to the story from The Daily Beast and uh start by saying Jimmy Fallon cancels appearance after Kimmel's show gets cut.
00:35:56.000 We won.
00:35:57.000 Congratulations.
00:35:59.000 Uh winning now does not mean winning forever.
00:36:02.000 You may uh you may invade and conquer great lands, and one day those lands may be conquered back.
00:36:09.000 But when Jimmy Fallon cancels an appearance after Kimmel's show gets cut, that means I'm gonna give you my my opinion on this one.
00:36:17.000 It's all opinion, because we don't actually know what happened.
00:36:19.000 He was supposed to do some event and he canceled it.
00:36:21.000 It sounds like ABC had an emergency meeting.
00:36:24.000 It sounds like these networks had an emergency meeting and said, all hands on deck, we got to discuss what you are doing on your shows.
00:36:34.000 And I think what we're likely going to start seeing is these late night shows drop the political games.
00:36:39.000 We got this from uh NBC News, FCC chair, CNBC, sorry.
00:36:44.000 Uh FCC Chair Carr says we're not done yet after Jimmy Kimmel suspension.
00:36:49.000 I bet all these networks just said we cannot go to war with the government.
00:36:56.000 So shut your mouths.
00:36:59.000 And I say, okay.
00:37:00.000 I know the left is going to be like, but free speech, it's a chilling when the government is doing.
00:37:04.000 Um the FCC has always existed, has always regulated what network television can do with their access to the airwaves, and it is not the same thing as say, look, Jimmy Kimmel, start a YouTube channel, buddy.
00:37:19.000 Be like Don Lemon.
00:37:20.000 Ain't nobody stopping you.
00:37:21.000 But if you want access to the public airwaves, you are regulated by the FCC, and I ain't crying about it.
00:37:26.000 And there used to be a general consensus about what was acceptable and what wasn't.
00:37:30.000 There were outliers.
00:37:31.000 I mean, I remember when Howard Stern was perceived as like totally outrageous, crazy.
00:37:36.000 You know, we've got to shut him down.
00:37:38.000 They tried to open they try to bring him to Richmond, and every all the conservatives in Richmf freaked out, and he actually didn't survive in Richmond.
00:37:44.000 But he he was an outlier.
00:37:46.000 Now you look at it and you think there isn't a general consensus about what's acceptable.
00:37:50.000 And the difference between broadcast TV, broadcast radio, and everything else on the internet blurs that line.
00:37:58.000 What people will accept is different today.
00:38:00.000 This the stuff that people regularly consume online would have uh you know, people would have had heart attacks and died 20 years ago.
00:38:09.000 I think uh we're just in yet another situation where the left is writing fan fiction about what's happening that I wish were reality.
00:38:18.000 And uh they're talking about how the government is chilling speech and they're the culprits behind all of this.
00:38:27.000 And then if you actually look into the story, the FCC, at least according to the information we have now and according to what Brendan Carr has said, the FCC did was not the catalyst for any of this.
00:38:38.000 It was the affiliate stations.
00:38:40.000 It was from the bottom up, it was private companies, and they were private companies standing up to conglomerates.
00:38:47.000 It had nothing to do with the government catalyzing this whole chain of events.
00:38:52.000 I do wish it were the government, though.
00:38:55.000 Um continue wishing that like who Trump portrays himself to be in tweets and truth social posts or reality, but he's not actually serious when he says, like, let's shut the people up, we're giving me unfair coverage.
00:39:11.000 Like it's not serious.
00:39:12.000 I'm gonna make it real simple for everybody.
00:39:14.000 Um, what is a government?
00:39:16.000 Who wants to who wants to answer this one?
00:39:18.000 What is a government?
00:39:18.000 Phil?
00:39:19.000 Uh well, I mean, it's an uh an organization in at least in our country that's uh voted on by the people in order to do certain basic things, in my opinion, the role of the government is to protect property rights, uh make sure that there is a military military to protect borders um and provide courts for redress of grievance, and as far as I'm concerned, that's about all that I think the government should be doing.
00:39:45.000 All right.
00:39:46.000 I mean, the general idea of government is controlling authority structure over a nation, its borders, and its people.
00:39:54.000 And uh in the United States, I think you are largely correct as to how it operates.
00:39:57.000 So I agree that's what a government should be.
00:40:01.000 It should be a structure of the people for the purpose of protecting the rights of the people and ensuring that those rights aren't infringed upon, ensuring protection from external forces, in which case, my view on all of this is very simple.
00:40:16.000 As I've stated before, there are two different worlds occurring within the same country.
00:40:22.000 This is a conversation that has been had for almost seven or eight years now, and it's a conversation I did not bring up.
00:40:28.000 Many individuals and academics have Pointed to the fact that there exist two different countries.
00:40:33.000 Stephen Marsh, I cite quite regularly, a smart man, despite being a liberal and we disagree, he has a smart guy on this on this matter, much more learned than I, and he said, There are two countries existing within the borders of the United States: a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic.
00:40:48.000 And he said, I am of the multicultural democracy.
00:40:52.000 And I said, interesting.
00:40:53.000 I am of the constitutional republic.
00:40:55.000 In which case, the answer is quite clear.
00:40:57.000 If my government drops a bomb on someone like Solomani, I don't care.
00:41:02.000 I mean, I prefer that he doesn't do it.
00:41:04.000 I know Illad's over here nodding, like, come on, let's prefer that we do it.
00:41:07.000 My point is, when the US government engages in military actions for the betterment of the interests of the country, the only the the questions that I have are, are these justified is the appropriate use of force?
00:41:17.000 I don't go, oh heavens me, they murdered somebody.
00:41:19.000 I say, this is war and military, right?
00:41:21.000 Here's a better example.
00:41:24.000 The social media platforms all say that advocating for violence is an immediately banable offense.
00:41:31.000 However, if you went on your social media platforms and say Donald Trump was correct in dropping a bomb on Solomani and blowing them up, you would not be banned.
00:41:40.000 Because even YouTube agrees the context of the terms of service and the calls for violence only applies within a nation.
00:41:46.000 Now, we are not yet at the point where I would say we have a manifest two different distinct countries by which these that that rule would apply internally.
00:41:57.000 As it would apply to the FCC, that's exactly how I feel.
00:42:02.000 So when they come to me and they say, But Tim, free speech, and I'll say, sure, and I don't really grant freedom of movement to terrorists in in in Iraq or Afghanistan, I don't think the US should be there.
00:42:12.000 But this is my point.
00:42:13.000 You would not grant freedom of movement to Russians in Ukraine, despite not being anywhere near there.
00:42:18.000 My view is largely we have a government of foreign by the people.
00:42:22.000 It's us, they're not us, they seek to destroy us.
00:42:24.000 They are an entirely separate system.
00:42:26.000 They don't believe the same things we do, they don't believe in the same laws, and they're willing to lie to steal power, cheat, and even kill someone like Charlie Kirk.
00:42:35.000 When I see this government engaging in actions that is within the Constitution, but is shutting down the illicit speech, and I mean like the threats of violence and all that stuff, I'm not gonna cry about it.
00:42:49.000 I am not going to cry when Jimmy Kimmel gets his show taken off the air, even though I do agree with people having the right to free speech, because these people are trying to destroy us, and as they say, all is fair and love and war.
00:43:00.000 If it's a culture war, then so be it.
00:43:02.000 I am not going to reach my neckout and defend evil people.
00:43:05.000 And so long as the Trump administration and the current government is protecting us as Americans, and I even I'm not even playing that heritage American game.
00:43:13.000 All Americans, even people who immigrate here, I know mayor may not agree.
00:43:17.000 People, so someone comes here right now, they literally just land on a plane and they've got a legal visa, and they say, you know, g in one year you'll have finalized your citizenship and you'll be as that person is protected as well.
00:43:28.000 These liberals, the left, are advocating for non-citizens to cross the border and be constitutionally protected.
00:43:33.000 That is a violation of our social contract.
00:43:35.000 I am not going to protect those that do not exist in the same world as we do.
00:43:40.000 My government is for us, the American people, and these people are clearly acting outside of that when they murder, lie, cheat, steal, and what did Jesmond Crockett say?
00:43:49.000 Committing a crime doesn't make you a criminal.
00:43:51.000 That quote's going viral right now.
00:43:53.000 So when you come to me and say, but Donald Trump is doing bad things to all of these people, I'll say they're not Americans.
00:44:00.000 Right?
00:44:01.000 I'm sorry.
00:44:02.000 And I'll stress, he's not even doing anything unconstitutional.
00:44:05.000 So I'm not going to even qu normally, in a normal circumstance, if Trump, the FCC said we're gonna get we're gonna go after this show or whatever, I'd be like, we gotta be careful about slippery slot.
00:44:16.000 I ain't slippery slope in anything.
00:44:17.000 These people aren't us.
00:44:18.000 Jimmy Kimmel lying to the American people about the political leanings of a shooter to justify the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:44:24.000 There's no slippery slope defense or anything for me.
00:44:26.000 I'm gonna say, Oh, that sucks for you.
00:44:28.000 And it's not even the FCC that did it.
00:44:29.000 It was advertisers.
00:44:30.000 So spare me your lies.
00:44:32.000 I'm done playing your games.
00:44:33.000 I want to defend you.
00:44:34.000 And if Donald Trump goes and starts arresting Antifa, I'm gonna be like, okay, they're terrorists.
00:44:39.000 Sorry.
00:44:40.000 I watched, I watched a guy in black block throw an explosive at an 80-year-old woman when I was in Berkeley seven years ago.
00:44:46.000 And you mean to tell me that's protected speech?
00:44:48.000 I'm not playing these games.
00:44:49.000 Trump, go arrest all of them, and I ain't gonna cry about it.
00:44:53.000 And it's refreshing that people on the right are finally coming around to that realization, growing up a little bit and realizing That when you have power, you do need to wield it.
00:45:04.000 Especially if you want to keep it and you don't want to be oppressed.
00:45:07.000 These people cannot be taken at face value.
00:45:09.000 It's just the constant, you know, look at their hypocrisy.
00:45:13.000 Look at the left's hypocrisy narrative, that discourse just has exhausted all of its value.
00:45:21.000 It's not worth calling out their hypocrisy anymore.
00:45:24.000 People on the right thought that this was all just gonna shake out.
00:45:28.000 Like if we just stay cool, it's gonna shake out.
00:45:31.000 And I'm really tired of seeing decent people who do have some sort of standard and morals and polite nature being played and having their good intentions used against them.
00:45:44.000 And so at some point, without devolving into a nation that's at war with itself, and I think we're close to that already, unfortunately.
00:45:55.000 I mean, I'd like to be one of the people to try to stop that from happening on a regular basis, but we've got to send a message that we're not gonna tolerate this.
00:46:02.000 I I told somebody the other day, don't complain about a young person who thinks it's okay to shoot someone over political uh disagreements when in Virginia, John Hinckley Jr., who shot Ronald Reagan is walking around colonial Williamsburg with no problem.
00:46:21.000 I mean, we let him out.
00:46:22.000 We said, Oh, yeah, you were crazy back in 1981.
00:46:24.000 So, but but you know, time has gone by, we're gonna let you walk around.
00:46:28.000 I I think that sends a signal.
00:46:31.000 We're not serious about this.
00:46:32.000 We don't really, if you could shoot the president and 30 years later, you're free to go play your guitar in the local bar in Williamsburg and nobody's says anything about it, that sends a signal to everyone.
00:46:44.000 Let's jump to the story from Mediaite to exemplify the point.
00:46:47.000 Fox News is Kennedy sounds the alarm over Kimmel suspension and warns Democrats could use precedent to target Fox.
00:46:56.000 My response is Kennedy, do you have amnesia?
00:47:00.000 Do I you work for Fox Business, I believe, and Tucker Carlson was kicked off the air.
00:47:05.000 All his advertisers were pulled.
00:47:06.000 Megan Kelly got fired.
00:47:07.000 I think she was what?
00:47:08.000 And was it NBC she was working for in the morning show?
00:47:10.000 Roseanne got fired over a joke.
00:47:12.000 I do not understand this.
00:47:15.000 She said, I do I do have an issue with some of the statements made by Brendan Carr.
00:47:19.000 Because if there were an FCC commissioner on the other side of the political spectrum from someone maybe on this network and they didn't like their speech, would they put pressure on some of the advertisers?
00:47:28.000 And if someone from Fox moved on to Fox broadcast to some of the own and operate stations there, that's the part of this that I do not like.
00:47:35.000 So I I made a list.
00:47:36.000 It's not exhaustive.
00:47:37.000 I'm gonna read it for you.
00:47:38.000 And I would I believe that uh Phil and all of you may be able to chine in, chime in.
00:47:41.000 But let me just start with this.
00:47:43.000 I tweeted.
00:47:44.000 Liberals and Democrats used the government to push for censorship of their political rivals, arrested their political rivals, got prominent comedians and personalities fired from their jobs, advocated death for the for children standing still in DC.
00:47:57.000 Remember that one?
00:47:58.000 Falsely charged their political rival with fraud despite the alleged victims denying they were victimized, created special laws so people could sue and target their political rival, created a network of false information to smear their rival as a traitor, maliciously prosecuted the front runner of uh for their rival party using fake charges with no underlying crimes,
00:48:17.000 arrested the political uh political lawyers, I'm sorry, arrested rival politicians, lawyers for representing the politician, arrested teenagers for driving cars over sacred symbols, arrested people for burning their sacred flags, murdered Trump supporters and celebrated it.
00:48:34.000 Aaron Danielson, Charlie Kirk, just two off the top of my head.
00:48:38.000 There was also all of the people who died during the BLM riots.
00:48:41.000 There was also the person who was shot in Provo, Utah.
00:48:44.000 There's also they made lists of the next targets to kill.
00:48:49.000 Yeah.
00:48:50.000 You know what?
00:48:50.000 You get it.
00:48:51.000 I say, we have learned.
00:48:53.000 There is no more, but when they take power, they killed Charlie.
00:48:57.000 There's literally nowhere else they can go.
00:48:59.000 If they win, we know what they're willing to do, and killing us is already something they've done.
00:49:05.000 I mean, there was the Arc that uh program Arctic Frost that the FBI was using to target conservative or something.
00:49:11.000 Oh, there's another one, including including Charlie Kirk.
00:49:13.000 Just just, you know, disclosed in the past couple days.
00:49:17.000 This is not a situation where you can say, oh, well, if the if the the right does it, then the left will do it when they get in power.
00:49:25.000 They're gonna do it when they get back in power anyways.
00:49:27.000 It's we are we are literally living In a banana republic now.
00:49:31.000 Don't don't kid yourself.
00:49:33.000 This is not like stuff that happens in South America with basket case governments.
00:49:38.000 This is happening in the United States right now.
00:49:41.000 So I don't want to hear, oh, well, the left's gonna do it if if they get back in power, so you shouldn't do it.
00:49:46.000 No, they're gonna do it anyway.
00:49:48.000 This is the reality of 2025.
00:49:50.000 Let me it's gonna be worse than that.
00:49:51.000 And I'll add another one.
00:49:53.000 They falsely accused independent media personalities of being paid money to spread Russian propaganda, despite the fact that the content we produced in the culture war and the content Dave Rubin produced were often apolitical, had nothing to do with politics at all.
00:50:05.000 So in what way are Dave Rubin's reactions to vi funny viral videos like America's Funny Sound Video in Anyway Spreading Propaganda?
00:50:12.000 When the culture war show, you know what we're doing tomorrow?
00:50:14.000 Exorcisms.
00:50:15.000 Because the culture war is about culture, not politics.
00:50:18.000 Sometimes politics is involved, but typically it's not.
00:50:20.000 And they lied.
00:50:21.000 And a month after they announced that case, they dropped it.
00:50:25.000 They dropped it.
00:50:26.000 And this was in December under Biden.
00:50:29.000 It was fake the whole time.
00:50:30.000 And then in April, they totally just basically killed the case, Lauren Chenish's statement about it.
00:50:35.000 Now that one's personal, and I have no problem adding it to the mix because I believe it was totally fake from the get-go.
00:50:40.000 And that's so for those that don't know the story.
00:50:43.000 In December of last year, I was begging my lawyers to get them to it to to push this through and go public as heavy as they can.
00:50:50.000 And we were instructed by the feds, they no longer had any interest in the case, and it was basically over.
00:50:56.000 And I received my final bill, my final invoice.
00:50:58.000 And I said, I'm not no, no, no.
00:51:00.000 I said, What can I do to keep this going?
00:51:01.000 So you can't.
00:51:01.000 The DOJ issued the indictment, they have no evidence, they've dropped it.
00:51:05.000 So what was this thing?
00:51:07.000 What they are going to do if they win is so much worse than just this stupid idea of, but maybe they'll censor you.
00:51:16.000 Already did that.
00:51:17.000 And not only did they already censor, but Michael Reinhold shot and killed Aaron Danielson.
00:51:21.000 And you know what Crowder told me today, which is fascinating?
00:51:23.000 When the economists put out that who's more responsible for political violence, that's not included as left-wing extremism.
00:51:30.000 BLM riots, which resulted in around either 26 to 32 deaths, do not count as political deaths.
00:51:36.000 They are lying.
00:51:38.000 And so hearing this, I'm just so sick of this argument.
00:51:41.000 If the mid if the Democrats win the midterms, Trump will be impeached.
00:51:46.000 He will never get new there will never be legislation put through, as bad as Mike Johnson is that everyone complains about, Democrats will do substantially worse, because Republicans aren't willing to.
00:51:56.000 To be fair, I'm gonna say this.
00:51:58.000 There's another story that we maybe we'll get to in a bit that 48 of Trump's, I believe it's 48 of Trump's uh appointees have been confirmed in a single vote, which I don't think is ever has it ever happened before.
00:52:09.000 No.
00:52:09.000 Forty-eight political appointees got confirmed in a single swipe of a pen, 51 to 40, I think the vote was.
00:52:16.000 With Trump saying he's going to name Antifa, a terrorist organization, with already uh uh criminal charges being sought among people like Latichia James and Adam Schiff.
00:52:27.000 I would not be surprised if by next week we actually see arrests, political arrests.
00:52:33.000 I would like to.
00:52:35.000 I mean, the the pace at which we are seeing action this past week following the killing of Charlie Kirk, I think I think there's a couple ways to look at it.
00:52:43.000 Anyone who was advising Trump from from a lizard brain setting.
00:52:50.000 Let me start by saying, with all due respect to Charlie Kirk, a good man, an honorable man who fought.
00:52:56.000 There is a political reality that people don't want to discuss.
00:53:00.000 And I am telling you, I am sure behind the scenes, an advisor to Trump said, with the death of Charlie Kirk, you effectively have carte blanche.
00:53:09.000 You can do whatever you want because they killed Charlie.
00:53:14.000 That is the cold lizard reality of what just happened.
00:53:18.000 And I think when you see the moves that are being made, Jimmy Kimmel getting pulled off the air, people getting fired from their jobs, the American people do not have the tolerance for this degree of political violence.
00:53:29.000 And the liberals are arguing that Trump is exploiting this for the purpose of expanding the security set or whatever as he's doing.
00:53:37.000 I think it's fair to say that there are advisors telling Trump, if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it now.
00:53:42.000 Well, it's gotta be.
00:53:42.000 He's only got he had 24 months.
00:53:45.000 The clock is running.
00:53:46.000 And uh yeah, that was the mistake of the first term was slow rolling it.
00:53:51.000 Oh, we'll get to it, we'll get to it later.
00:53:53.000 And then you get annihilated in the midterms, which is predictable even in the best circumstance.
00:53:57.000 I mean, he's gotta take action if there was stuff that he promised or if the things that he fundamentally wants to do to change the way Washington operates, there's a very limited window.
00:54:06.000 And let's be honest, uh, I'll get through my election in November.
00:54:10.000 We'll start up again in January, and then what everybody gets cold feet by about April or May, because then every member of the Congress has to go out and campaign, and they don't want anything too controversial that'll screw up their race.
00:54:24.000 So everything kind of stops in DC about April, maybe May of next year.
00:54:30.000 Given the current political climate, do you fear for your safety as all at all as a Republican candidate?
00:54:35.000 Uh there's nothing new.
00:54:38.000 What's happened with Charlie Kirk is it made a lot of people pay attention.
00:54:42.000 But the day I got the nomination, there was a guy, I was live streaming a uh press conference talking about my opponent, and there were people putting comments on the live stream, you deserve a bullet in your head.
00:54:54.000 And I took it to the cops, they said, okay, we'll archive them.
00:54:56.000 Nobody did anything about it.
00:54:58.000 So I hate to admit this, but this is nothing new.
00:55:01.000 Now, am I worried about it?
00:55:02.000 I've this weekend I'm gonna be campaigning without security all over the state.
00:55:07.000 And I just I'm six foot three, normally people don't mess with me, but you want to if you want to blow somebody away, that doesn't matter.
00:55:15.000 Yeah.
00:55:15.000 So you went to the authorities and they were like, Oh, yeah, we'll look into it.
00:55:18.000 Well, does it what does this actually mean?
00:55:20.000 And you know, can we identify this person?
00:55:23.000 We that's why we also cannot rely on the authorities to take action on these things, and that's why I'm so glad that whoever these anonymous people are that started the Charlie Kirk Data Foundation are doing important work of archiving this information.
00:55:36.000 They're not doxing anyone.
00:55:38.000 Nobody is advocating for cruelty to people on the left.
00:55:43.000 I'm not saying kill that guy.
00:55:45.000 Yeah, we don't want to meet their cruelty with cruelty.
00:55:48.000 We just want justice.
00:55:49.000 I want to want to see people arrested so that way they're not a threat to society.
00:55:53.000 People who are advocating or inciting violence should be charged for it.
00:55:53.000 Indeed.
00:55:58.000 Yeah.
00:55:58.000 And my attitude right now is five years ago, if someone said, Oh, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest, I'd say, Yeah, yeah, we get it.
00:56:05.000 Today, if someone says it, I say, charge them.
00:56:07.000 Yeah.
00:56:08.000 You um Andy No.
00:56:10.000 I brought him to Richmond to speak to this group that I founded.
00:56:14.000 Right.
00:56:14.000 I knew it'd be somewhat controversial.
00:56:16.000 We had it booked in a really nice private club.
00:56:19.000 Antifa harassed the club.
00:56:22.000 I mean, blew up the phone calls, uh uh scared them.
00:56:25.000 We moved to a hotel.
00:56:27.000 The same thing happened.
00:56:28.000 We kept it secret until the day of the speech.
00:56:31.000 Antifa went all over the hotel, made the front desk clerks cry, said we're gonna murder and slaughter everybody who steps into the hotel.
00:56:38.000 We got booted, we finally got Andy No in front of a crowd with you know, like a one-hour notice of where it was going to be and had to have snipers in the parking lot.
00:56:47.000 And there was a guy who was identified as posting minimally provocative stuff, like uh uh a guy carrying a TNT box, and he said, I'm on the way to blow up the Andy No event.
00:57:00.000 They let that slide the prosecutor in my home county, let it slide for about a month and then dismiss the charges.
00:57:06.000 And I kept saying, when are you going to make an example of people to say you can't with a wink and a nod act like this is okay to intimidate people.
00:57:17.000 You know that they're planning on protesting Charlie's funeral.
00:57:20.000 Oh, disgusting, but I'm sure.
00:57:22.000 Yeah.
00:57:22.000 Yeah.
00:57:23.000 It's disgusting, but that will do horrible things for the left because the optics of protesting a funeral of a man that has was murdered is going to do more damage to the Democrat Party than Destiny didn't have to be a good thing.
00:57:39.000 Well, that's like Lesborough Church.
00:57:40.000 You know what?
00:57:41.000 If they had considered that, they would not have this so I I'll I'll keep it light, but should they have considered that after this lunatic liberal shot and murdered Charlie, they would not have posted to social media celebrating the death, dancing on his grave.
00:57:57.000 They don't care what you think.
00:57:58.000 And I think the issue is for the past fifteen or so years, liberals ruled through fear and blunt and and brute force.
00:58:06.000 Most people don't agree that men are women or whatever or children could should get sex changes, but they were terrified that if they said anything, they would not only get fired from their jobs, they could be beaten for it.
00:58:18.000 So they kept their mouths shut.
00:58:20.000 And and liberals and leftists with impunity could say whatever they wanted because they were willing to be violent and police wouldn't do anything about it.
00:58:28.000 And they got used to it.
00:58:29.000 And now the arrogance is out of control.
00:58:31.000 And now, exactly.
00:58:33.000 Now that Trump is in in office and people are feeling more comfortable calling it out, they went on social media and celebrated and the backlash was intense.
00:58:42.000 And now Jimmy Kimmel has lost his job.
00:58:44.000 And they're starting to learn we don't tolerate it.
00:58:48.000 No one should have ever tolerated it, but finally people are waking up saying no, and Donald Trump is more empowered now, not just him, but law enforcement to shut this down.
00:58:57.000 A really great example.
00:58:59.000 When that guy trampled the memorial, I think it was in Arizona, I'm not sure, and uh a couple of a bunch of supporters of Charlie Kirk grabbed him, grabbed him and threw him down five years ago, those guys would have been arrested.
00:59:10.000 You're right.
00:59:11.000 They arrested the guy who trampled the memorial because the police know who butters theirs who butters their bread now.
00:59:17.000 Yeah.
00:59:18.000 Good.
00:59:19.000 That's a that's the perfect example of how the the tables have turned.
00:59:23.000 The attitude has changed.
00:59:24.000 Our side's not gonna sit quiet, and I think the cops do realize who's on their side and who's not, and to your point, um about doing uh uh protesting Charlie's funeral, doing damage to the left.
00:59:38.000 I would use the example of how the Westboro Baptist Church guys went and protested the gay people who died of AIDS and and in interrupted funerals where a decent person would say, no matter what I think of you, no matter how much I dislike you or I have a problem with you, bury your dad, and we're not gonna interrupt you.
00:59:57.000 I mean, that's just kind of a decent way to live.
00:59:59.000 Are you familiar with the uh the Christmas truce?
01:00:02.000 The famous World War One, I think it was.
01:00:04.000 Right, right.
01:00:05.000 That on Christmas, they laid down their arms and they drank hot cocoa and tea or whatever and celebrated Christmas enemies, and then with went back to the trenches, it's just so it's it's crazy.
01:00:19.000 And all that's been lost.
01:00:20.000 That's what the left has done to this culture.
01:00:22.000 People used to disagree.
01:00:23.000 I mean, it probably wasn't as divergent.
01:00:25.000 Well, it we did we we didn't have the divergent opinions uh as extreme as they are today, but at least people agreed on the way we generally treat each other.
01:00:36.000 Like somebody I mean, I wasn't around when uh when Robert Kennedy was killed, I went around when JFK was killed, I went around with MLK was killed.
01:00:44.000 But I'm guessing that if you had something really nasty to say about any of those killings, you probably would have said it in your house privately and not maybe someone will prove me wrong and pull up the archives and they'll be able to prove that that's not true.
01:00:59.000 But let's jump to this next story.
01:01:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump has accused Ilhan Omar of immigration fraud.
01:01:05.000 Now he didn't explicitly say he was gonna take any action, but following this post on Truth Social, many people on X are saying Trump has fired the first Selvo in stripping her of citizenship and deporting her.
01:01:18.000 Maybe.
01:01:19.000 We will see if it escalates that point, but let me read what he said.
01:01:22.000 Trump says, Illan Omar's country of Somalia is plagued by a lack of central government control, persistent poverty, hunger, resurgent terrorism, piracy, decades of civil war, corruption, and per se pervasive violence.
01:01:35.000 Seventy percent of the population lives in extreme poverty and widespread food insecurity.
01:01:39.000 Somalia is consistently ranked among the world's most corrupt countries, including bribery, embezzlement, and a dysfunctional government.
01:01:46.000 All of this, and Ilhan Omar tells us how to run America.
01:01:51.000 P. S. Wasn't she the one that married her brother in order to gain citizenship?
01:01:55.000 What scum we have in our country telling us what to do and how to do it?
01:01:59.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.
01:02:01.000 Make America great again.
01:02:02.000 Now I will highlight this article from the Minnesota Star Tribune.
01:02:07.000 For those aren't familiar, this is not a conservative newspaper.
01:02:11.000 And they reported in 2019, new documents revisit questions about Rep Ilhan Omar's marriage history.
01:02:16.000 Although she has legally corrected the discrepancy, she has declined to say anything about how or why it happened.
01:02:21.000 New investigative documents released by a state agency have given fresh life to lingering questions about the marital history of rep Ilhan Omar and whether she once married a man, possibly her own brother, to skirt immigration laws.
01:02:35.000 She's denied these as baseless rumors, but even the Star Tribune says she possibly married her own brother.
01:02:42.000 Why would Donald Trump make this post saying it's her country of Somalia, didn't she skirt immigration laws?
01:02:49.000 I think it's a reasonable assessment that Donald Trump may make a move to strip her of citizenship, revoke and deport.
01:02:56.000 Yeah, I mean, look, if if it comes out, there should be an investigation, And if it comes out that she did violate the law, no one is above the law.
01:03:05.000 She broke the law.
01:03:06.000 Send her back.
01:03:07.000 I don't care that she's been elected.
01:03:09.000 She has broken the law to attain citizenship.
01:03:13.000 So let's put it like this.
01:03:14.000 Um if someone defrauds you and and tricks their way into uh you know living in your basement, like they give you fake documents, or let's let's say you have a three fly.
01:03:25.000 We'll just make it easier.
01:03:26.000 And you're renting out the first floor as a single unit apartment, and they lie on all the documents so they can do it, claim they have a job when they don't.
01:03:32.000 Should you be forced to just let them stay, or should you say, hey, you defrauded me?
01:03:37.000 I don't I don't buy this argument that you know, they would say, like, well, it's pretty dangerous.
01:03:41.000 She was elected.
01:03:42.000 What so what?
01:03:43.000 As I agree with Phil.
01:03:44.000 If it turns out she defrauded the U.S. government for immigration, then her election is void.
01:03:49.000 That's it.
01:03:50.000 Goodbye.
01:03:51.000 You're not a citizen.
01:03:51.000 You shouldn't, you you weren't eligible to be a citizen.
01:03:54.000 Well, I I think in her instance, that what with the wife Trump's framing it, the the rumor, I should say the reporting actually, is that she married her brother so her brother would be granted citizenship.
01:04:05.000 I see.
01:04:05.000 However, if she commits immigration fraud, that does subject her to revocation of her immigration status.
01:04:12.000 That citizenship can be revoked if you are someone who is naturalized.
01:04:16.000 Yeah.
01:04:17.000 How far are we going with this?
01:04:19.000 Well, I mean all the way.
01:04:21.000 Yeah, I mean, look, if you've broken immigration law, you know.
01:04:25.000 Uh it's like everything else.
01:04:26.000 You at some point you gotta be tough.
01:04:28.000 Uh on whether you're going to allow violence, whether you're going to excuse murder, whether you're going to allow people to break the law.
01:04:34.000 I mean, the problem is we spent 30 years just letting things slide, letting uh on immigration, especially, just letting everything go.
01:04:41.000 And now you've got chaos.
01:04:43.000 And Trump is back to try to restore some order to that.
01:04:48.000 And it's not, it's never gonna be nice.
01:04:50.000 It's it's like when the new teacher arrives and the key the class has been out of control, and the new teacher shows up and says, Hell no, you're not gonna act like this in my classroom, and everybody goes, Wait, what?
01:05:00.000 What?
01:05:01.000 That's Trump.
01:05:02.000 He's he's cracking the whip and saying we are not going to allow this anymore.
01:05:06.000 I think that's probably a good thing for us.
01:05:09.000 So I think it's worth uh mentioning that this truth is coming on the heels of a failed censure vote in the House that would have ultimately stripped Ilhan Omar of her house committee assignments.
01:05:20.000 So she had two different house committee assignments.
01:05:22.000 She had some comments about um the death of Charlie Kirk, and some people viewed it as justifying it.
01:05:27.000 So Representative Nancy Mace brought forward that censure vote that failed by one vote um as a result of four Republican House members voting against it.
01:05:35.000 So uh I mean, this is the reason why Republicans always lose because Corey Mills is sending out tweets justifying his vote to not censor Ilhan Omar, saying we may not like or agree with someone uh with what someone says, but that does not mean we mean we should deny their protected First Amendment right.
01:05:51.000 Uh House Republicans are afraid to wield power.
01:05:53.000 Ilhan Omar is one of the most disgusting members of the House.
01:05:57.000 And the fact that Republic the Republicans were weren't able to achieve this censure by one vote.
01:06:02.000 Um Corey Mills is allegedly trying to um avoid uh censure of his own from the Democrats, and this was kind of a quit pro quo trying to like save the skin off of his back for alleged improprieties that were coming his way.
01:06:14.000 So like the sturdy politics is what helps prevent you know, these outrageous Democrats, these socialist far left leftists in the House from being held to account.
01:06:25.000 Um so I think Corey Mills has uh like something serious to answer for.
01:06:29.000 And like he wasn't the only Republican, right?
01:06:31.000 It was one of three other uh there were four Republicans in total.
01:06:36.000 But here's the thing Corey Mills is a MAGA fire brand who should be voting to censure uh his Hon Omar, but he's using the cover of free speech in the most BS and manipulative way.
01:06:46.000 Um the issue with this free speech conversation too is that while Republicans and right wingers are principled in their free speech, left wingers are just willing to use it against them.
01:06:54.000 They're not truly against doxing or getting people fired from their jobs, they're just against it when the right is willing to use it against the left.
01:07:01.000 And uh it's just so sad how weak um these Republicans, some of these Republicans in the House are.
01:07:06.000 It seems whenever we get so close, well, it was only these four who really uh screwed up the vote.
01:07:12.000 Um I could pull up the names, but you shouldn't.
01:07:15.000 It seems there is always uh a few that prevent them from getting this through, but he is the MAGA fire brand, right?
01:07:22.000 Corey Mills um from Florida.
01:07:24.000 He is supposed to be the MAGA guy and uh So it's uh Corey Mills, Mike Flood, Jeff Hurd, and Tom McClintock.
01:07:32.000 Trash.
01:07:33.000 Uh so you know, this is why Ilhan will come continue to have committee assignments, uh committee assignments of a far left Islamist in the House will continue to have um her house assignments.
01:07:43.000 No, no, her committee assignments because of Corey Mills.
01:07:45.000 I'm confused.
01:07:46.000 Why didn't Israel just get her removed?
01:07:46.000 Yes.
01:07:48.000 I guess Israel's not given enough money.
01:07:50.000 APAC's not doing its work.
01:07:51.000 They have their work cut out for it.
01:07:52.000 What's going on, brother?
01:07:53.000 That's why I'm here now lobbying against Corey Mills.
01:07:57.000 It's it's full circle.
01:07:58.000 Is that the best Israel have?
01:07:59.000 They send somebody to go on Timcast IRL to lobby.
01:08:02.000 That's not even like a great guest.
01:08:04.000 And if anything ever happened to you, just like how all this stuff around Charlie Kirk that Candace has going on.
01:08:08.000 If anything happened to you, immediately it'll be Israel's fault.
01:08:12.000 That's why I I have a picture of Ilad lurking looking around the corner staring at me in a creepy way, and it's set to publish the next week.
01:08:20.000 And every week I update it.
01:08:21.000 That way, if anything does happen to me, it'll upload automatically, and then everyone will be like, Wait, well, think it ahead.
01:08:25.000 Thank you.
01:08:26.000 Then tell me if anything happened to him, I do get to inherit the show, and then we're changing it over to officially JuCast IRL.
01:08:31.000 It just won't it won't be a joke anymore in the uh but what the hell, Corey Mills um.
01:08:37.000 Well, if he's counting with them to uphold their agreement if I mean if your supposition is that there's a backroom deal to protect him, I wouldn't count on it.
01:08:45.000 I would count these people do not honor agreements.
01:08:48.000 And then there was also Lamonica MacGyver or something from New Jersey where they were jail yet?
01:08:54.000 No, they were they were there was another deal there to prevent that censure from moving forward because of these um such these such slim majorities cannot exist as a nation when you cut political deals with people who break the law in this way.
01:09:09.000 And we have done it for too long.
01:09:10.000 And the argument is always, but we don't want to fight.
01:09:13.000 And it goes back to what was it?
01:09:14.000 Was it 1876 when our president was chosen by committee and not by election?
01:09:19.000 Which it was the that ended uh reconstruction.
01:09:21.000 Basically, the fear was the civil war was gonna break out again.
01:09:25.000 They couldn't figure out who was actually gonna win, and so they compromised.
01:09:28.000 A committee came together and said, let's just decide who the president's gonna be.
01:09:31.000 Then we'll all agree on the fight, right?
01:09:33.000 Okay, so in exchange for this person being president, we'll end reconstruction, and there we go.
01:09:38.000 And from there, this is a country of I know you broke the law, but if you agree not to come after me, I won't go after you.
01:09:45.000 So at the highest level, you have DC, a swamp full of swamp monsters breaking the law and cutting backroom deals.
01:09:52.000 Um you you can't function this way.
01:09:54.000 That that Mick Ivor, she's the one who hit the cop, right?
01:09:56.000 Punch the cop.
01:09:58.000 Why isn't she in jail?
01:10:00.000 She punched a cop.
01:10:01.000 Because they they're scared to prosecute her.
01:10:02.000 Yeah.
01:10:03.000 Well, that's when when when regular people can watch a politician punch a cop and get away with it, they're gonna say, I guess I guess laws are off then, huh?
01:10:12.000 Yeah.
01:10:13.000 Then what do you think happens next?
01:10:15.000 Well, I mean, more of the same, more of what we've already got.
01:10:17.000 It's going to end, it's going to intensify.
01:10:20.000 I mean, I would love to see, I would love to see, you know, some reconciliation.
01:10:24.000 I would love to see the temperature cool off because I don't want to see a hot civil war.
01:10:28.000 But we've been taking steps towards that, you know, for the past at least five years, six years.
01:10:36.000 You know, it's doesn't have to be a reconciliation.
01:10:39.000 It just has to be an agreement that we're all going to obey the same laws.
01:10:42.000 Like I can't go into a museum that's hung a painting that I don't like that offends me and my Christian beliefs and throw red paint on it.
01:10:53.000 And you can't go into the streets of Richmond, Virginia, and throw a rope around a Confederate statue that nobody voted to take down and drag it through the street just because you are offended by those statues.
01:11:04.000 I I mean maybe you have a reason to be offended.
01:11:06.000 That's on you, but we have to obey the law.
01:11:09.000 And that's completely out the window now.
01:11:12.000 I think that this period which is devolving into civil war, whatever happened, started probably with 2007, 2008.
01:11:19.000 And you could make the argument that it's tied to the um what was the what was the uh the act that allowed the the mixing of investments on Brain Finance when the Dot or whatever it was, there were Dodd Frank.
01:11:32.000 Dodd Frank.
01:11:33.000 I was gonna say Frank Dodd and I'm like, that's not right.
01:11:33.000 There you go.
01:11:35.000 Yeah, so some people argue like that's what's that's all policy stuff.
01:11:39.000 2007 was the ground level, the ground swell political moment where people snapped.
01:11:44.000 And it created a network of global crises that have never been solved.
01:11:48.000 Notably, I was supposed to have a kid in 2008.
01:11:52.000 Traditionally, I would I was about 22, 23 years old into 2009.
01:11:56.000 That's the age at which people usually have kids.
01:11:59.000 The financial crash Happened and I couldn't afford to do anything, so I didn't.
01:12:02.000 And most millennials didn't, because we had no jobs.
01:12:06.000 We were living together as roommates.
01:12:08.000 That's what we could afford.
01:12:08.000 There was no prospect of growth.
01:12:10.000 And we didn't even know it was a problem.
01:12:12.000 We didn't even know what was happening.
01:12:13.000 Because to us, the way I've often explained it is I was already at the bottom, so when the market collapsed, I didn't go anywhere.
01:12:20.000 What people like what what I and my cohorts didn't understand is that we were supposed to be growing in financial access, housing, et cetera, and then have kids around that time.
01:12:31.000 Without kids, you get a bunch of angry listless young men with no families and nothing to lose.
01:12:36.000 You get a collapsing economy, you get political crisis after political crisis.
01:12:40.000 Then you got occupied, you got the Tea Party, you got Occupy Wall Street, which turned into Donald Trump, which turned into the Russia Gate era.
01:12:47.000 If you go back to 2007, since then, it's pretty wild to think about.
01:12:52.000 When I imagine what life was like in 2013, 14, I don't know, I'm going to see Marvel movies, um, skateboarding, don't things don't seem that bad.
01:13:00.000 But when you look back at a condensed history, the way we look at, say, the world World War One and II era, the Civil War era, the Revolutionary War, the condensation of history makes it look pretty startling.
01:13:11.000 In 2007, the global financial crisis hits, people lose their jobs, uh, people's savings are wiped out.
01:13:17.000 Young people don't get a start on life.
01:13:19.000 This leads to anger over these bailouts for these big ultra-rich fat cats, and the people on the ground experienced what corruption led to.
01:13:29.000 Then you get the Tea Party, angry that the representatives were not actually dealing with the problem.
01:13:33.000 You get the Tea Party groundswell on the Republican side.
01:13:36.000 Then you get Occupy Wall Street in 2011, where more urban level people, uh urb urban centered people were saying the exact same thing.
01:13:42.000 Barack Obama was not solving these problems.
01:13:45.000 He was giving big bailouts to banks and big big companies and CEOs, and we got the shaft.
01:13:51.000 We lost our houses, we paid the bills, we faced inflation.
01:13:55.000 Obama didn't solve the problem.
01:13:56.000 He got re-elected, he didn't solve the problem.
01:13:58.000 What did we get?
01:13:59.000 Nothing.
01:13:59.000 So what happens?
01:14:00.000 Trump begins to emerge.
01:14:02.000 The sentiment that led to Donald Trump was bubbling up during Occupy Wall Street.
01:14:07.000 A combination of cultural issues and populist outcry led to Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, and the machine state panicked.
01:14:14.000 So they did whatever they did to Bernie Sanders, whatever that was, and then Donald Trump wasn't supposed to win.
01:14:22.000 He ended up winning.
01:14:23.000 How did they respond?
01:14:24.000 They accused him of being a traitor, claimed he was a traitor to this country, probably going back years and decades, and tried to put him in prison, tried to destroy his life, put sent uh cemented his feet in his first administration so he could he couldn't really move.
01:14:38.000 And then you move into the next you lose move into the Biden era.
01:14:42.000 You get Arctic Frost targeting conservative organizations, and like don't get me wrong, like you know, you had Obama going after uh Tea Party groups and other conservatives with the IRS and things like that.
01:14:51.000 All of this stuff is a catastrophe bubbling up and escalating, going back to around 2007.
01:14:57.000 I don't I don't buy the arguments people make, well, well, Bush did this, and no, no, no.
01:15:01.000 The machine state foreign war stuff was totally par the course for this country for the past 50, 60 years.
01:15:07.000 The military industrial complex.
01:15:10.000 2007 is where things got weird.
01:15:12.000 And that's also the time of social media.
01:15:14.000 All of this is the is the collapse of our of our system, and it's come to this moment.
01:15:20.000 It's been getting worse, it's getting worse, and I don't see any of this turning around to be completely honest.
01:15:25.000 I mean, I don't I don't see it either.
01:15:27.000 That's that's one of the things that we are constantly talking about.
01:15:29.000 Where's the off ramp?
01:15:30.000 How do we fix this?
01:15:32.000 And the more you know, the more you you listen to people on you know, on the left, the more you realize that they don't want to.
01:15:41.000 Like a week ago when Charlie was killed, that changed everything in this country because people saw, like normal people and conservatives saw the vitriol about someone that was not actually a politician, right?
01:15:57.000 He just was out there, he was an activist, but he was just out there expressing his beliefs, and he was you know, he was trying to discuss these things with people that disagreed.
01:16:08.000 Here's a story for you guys from CBS News.
01:16:11.000 Twenty-two-year-old man charged with threatening to kill New Hampshire Governor Kelly Ayot.
01:16:15.000 How do you pronounce that?
01:16:15.000 IOTA.
01:16:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:17.000 A yacht.
01:16:17.000 A yacht?
01:16:18.000 Yeah.
01:16:19.000 You live there, not me.
01:16:20.000 A 22-year-old man is in custody after police say threatened to kill New Hampshire Governor Kelly Ayat.
01:16:20.000 AI.
01:16:25.000 Tristan Anderson of Hooksit New Hampshire is charged with criminal threatening and harm or threats to certain government officials.
01:16:31.000 The criminal complaint against Anderson released Thursday alleges that he didn't knowingly threaten to commit the crime of homicide and or assault against Governor Kelly Ayat, the current governor of the state of New Hampshire, for the purpose of influencing such officials' actions or in retaliation for action, taken as part of such government's official duties.
01:16:49.000 He was allegedly messaging with a woman on Snapchat saying he was going to target the new uh the New Hampshire mayor, Kelly Ayat, with my weapon of mass destruction.
01:16:57.000 He had also made anti-Semitic remarks in the messages as well.
01:17:01.000 Yeah.
01:17:02.000 The woman told police that Anderson owned guns and that he had he had made mention of making pipe bombs.
01:17:08.000 Anderson allegedly had shown them in metal tubes he was using to make the bombs, as well as nuts and bolts he was gonna put in them.
01:17:13.000 Police said Anderson had allegedly bought fireworks and take them apart to create pipe bombs.
01:17:17.000 He was arrested August 28th, and he remains in custody without bail, pending his next court appearance.
01:17:23.000 I had as a Republican who previous uh previously senator defeated the Democrat.
01:17:27.000 They reached out toy's office for comment.
01:17:29.000 His arrest happened before the murder of Charlie Kirk, but it was revealed during a heated national debate about political violence.
01:17:34.000 If every policy that is being promoted by your rivals is some kind of existential threat and a catastrophe in the end of the Republic that further intensifies this kind of emotional stress.
01:17:44.000 It sounds like what they are saying from this story is that this was a politically motivated death threat or threat against the governor because he did not like what she was doing.
01:17:56.000 Yeah, I mean, I w what it w what is happening that yesterday several cops are shot, ice agents are nearly getting run over and then shoot and kill the pe like these stories are almost every single day now, if not every single day.
01:18:09.000 And the scary thing is the desensitization to them.
01:18:13.000 There's another another story that I will attach to this one because we don't have the full details.
01:18:17.000 Tommy Gonz, uh I'm sorry, Tony Gonzalez staffer, death under investigation.
01:18:23.000 Her body was on fire.
01:18:25.000 I don't want to die, she told her mother who found her.
01:18:29.000 They don't say what happened.
01:18:30.000 They say they're not suspecting foul play, but it is currently under investigation.
01:18:34.000 So I am very curious how a Republican staffer was found immolated saying I don't want to die, and they're like That's very odd.
01:18:42.000 Do you know who's running against him, by the way?
01:18:44.000 Who is it?
01:18:45.000 Brandon Herrera.
01:18:46.000 Yeah.
01:18:46.000 Interesting.
01:18:47.000 Yeah, totally.
01:18:48.000 On the heels of this story, does that make you reconsider your security arrangements um while campaigning?
01:18:54.000 I mean, I don't have any option.
01:18:56.000 I I don't I don't have any money, man.
01:18:58.000 You know, I mean if I guess if I could go higher.
01:19:00.000 I've got a couple of guys who've said I'll go out with you and you know, shadow you and try to help you if something happens.
01:19:06.000 I appreciate that.
01:19:07.000 But it's and who wants to live like that?
01:19:10.000 I'm not running for president of the United States.
01:19:12.000 I'm running for lieutenant governor of Virginia.
01:19:14.000 I shouldn't have to uh have 24 hour security.
01:19:18.000 I should be able to get in the car like I did to come see you guys and not worry about it.
01:19:22.000 I'm just not gonna live that way, you know.
01:19:24.000 And I'm gonna be careful.
01:19:26.000 But I mean, this it's crazy.
01:19:27.000 And you know what the problem is?
01:19:29.000 Uh yes, these these stories are happening every day, but if you go back to 2020, people thought I was overreacting on my radio show.
01:19:37.000 I was like, why are we not shutting this down?
01:19:39.000 We've got cops being ambushed and assassinated in Dallas, I think, uh when the when the BLM Antifa riots first started.
01:19:48.000 We had um the police in Richmond, Virginia went into their precinct.
01:19:52.000 Nobody even reported on it.
01:19:53.000 They didn't even bother.
01:19:54.000 They set the building on fire with the cops inside.
01:19:57.000 People have not been prosecuted.
01:19:59.000 The United Daughters of the Confederacy Museum and Library in Richmond.
01:20:04.000 I mean, maybe you hate the Confederacy, maybe you hate those little old ladies who run the I don't know.
01:20:09.000 But that was firebombed.
01:20:11.000 And no one has ever been arrested or prosecuted.
01:20:14.000 What signal does that send?
01:20:15.000 It says we don't care.
01:20:16.000 It says as a culture, we're willing to tolerate this.
01:20:20.000 And we should we should hammer these people, regardless of whether they're on the right or the left.
01:20:25.000 And and we should also be honest that most of it is coming from the left.
01:20:29.000 Most of it is coming from the left.
01:20:31.000 And and so you have an entire generation of people who've been raised to think if I personally get spun up about something and hate something or hate somebody, then it's okay to go after them.
01:20:41.000 And that's on us as a as a society and the leaders who've been in place who haven't had the guts because they were afraid they'd be called a racist or they're afraid they'd be called a homophobe, and they've they were afraid of being called a name.
01:20:53.000 They didn't stand up and hammer these bad guys.
01:20:55.000 So now we're all suffering.
01:20:57.000 Uh I know you have a race coming up.
01:20:59.000 I don't know if you wanted To touch on it a little bit.
01:21:01.000 Um early voting starts tomorrow.
01:21:04.000 Why should people in Virginia vote for you?
01:21:06.000 Uh well, what I just said.
01:21:08.000 I think I'm one of the few people over the last several years who's in Virginia at least, who's had the guts to say what needs to be said and not be worried about being called names.
01:21:17.000 I've been called names my whole life.
01:21:18.000 You're not gonna you're not gonna upset me with that, and you're not gonna back me down from that.
01:21:23.000 And I think it I mean it's not like I'm proposing anything that's outrageous or unusual.
01:21:28.000 It's called obey the law.
01:21:29.000 And I don't think we have draconian crazy laws in Virginia, certainly, and I don't even think in the United States we have crazy laws.
01:21:37.000 Just obey the law.
01:21:38.000 And those laws are based on treating everybody with some basic level of uh respect, not harming the other person.
01:21:46.000 Uh we've lost it all.
01:21:47.000 Let me ask, I understand no matter what happens in your race, people are gonna view it as a bellwether about what's going on in the country and uh people have to.
01:21:55.000 Well, I've reminded the people in DC about that.
01:21:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:21:57.000 Yeah, November 5th, whatever happens in Virginia and New Jersey will be discussed as a harbinger for what Trump's given.
01:22:06.000 What do you think of the president?
01:22:07.000 If you had to give him a grade, what would you give him on how he's governing?
01:22:10.000 Well, you know, I've voted for Trump three times.
01:22:12.000 I don't regret that.
01:22:14.000 He's a controversial guy.
01:22:15.000 I don't even argue with people when they when they want to bring up his personality, I'm like, I'm not debating his personality.
01:22:20.000 I will discuss the policies, and I do think he's implementing policies that will put us, I pray to God, in a better situation.
01:22:29.000 No one wants to talk about being 37 trillion dollars in debt.
01:22:32.000 I mean, look at Greece, look at Italy, look at other countries filled with smart people.
01:22:38.000 They have had economic collapses that have burdened the citizens because they just didn't rein in their spending and their uh financial obligations.
01:22:50.000 And I think Trump is the first person to step up and try to do that.
01:22:53.000 Now there's pain associated with it.
01:22:55.000 It's a bad situation.
01:22:56.000 It doesn't feel good, but I can't nobody can run a government making everybody feel good.
01:23:01.000 You have to make some tough decisions.
01:23:03.000 I know one of his biggest initiatives has been on immigration.
01:23:05.000 He's quadrupled the funding towards ICE.
01:23:08.000 Do you support what he's doing across the country?
01:23:11.000 I think reaching for a million deportations a year of illegal aliens here.
01:23:15.000 Trevor Burrus, Jr.
01:23:15.000 We all have to obey the law.
01:23:16.000 We all have to obey the law.
01:23:18.000 So if you're here, it's not like this just came up yesterday.
01:23:21.000 We've been talking about it for a decade or more.
01:23:23.000 When I worked in the Senate, 2004, 2005, 2006, we were talking about whether we said uh could secure the southern border.
01:23:31.000 For God's sake.
01:23:32.000 No one pulled it off until Trump arrived.
01:23:35.000 Now they're consequences.
01:23:36.000 I have friends who are here illegally, and I said, Man, here's the name of a lawyer.
01:23:41.000 He's a Democrat, not even a Republican.
01:23:44.000 He will help you get your paperwork straight.
01:23:46.000 But if you sit around and don't do it, you're gonna be booted out of the country.
01:23:50.000 And a lot of people blew me off and said, I don't think so.
01:23:50.000 Do you understand that?
01:23:53.000 I everything's cool.
01:23:54.000 No, it's not.
01:23:55.000 You've got to obey the law.
01:23:56.000 We all have to obey the law.
01:23:57.000 I know your neighbors to the north in Maryland.
01:23:59.000 They're having this issue with the so-called Maryland man that all the Democrats seem to be um going to visit, Mr. Kilmar or Brago Garcia.
01:24:06.000 Have you heard about that case?
01:24:07.000 What people say Trump is overstepping there.
01:24:09.000 Do you think the president was overstepping?
01:24:10.000 It's not overstepping.
01:24:11.000 It's not overstepping at all.
01:24:13.000 Look, there should be one day where we say, are you documented?
01:24:17.000 Have you taken care of the responsibilities you have?
01:24:20.000 And if the answer is no, I'm so sorry.
01:24:22.000 I I you know I'm a nice guy.
01:24:23.000 I don't like to hurt people, but you're gonna have to go.
01:24:27.000 And when I lived in Kuwait, for God's sake, I was the head of international development for a firm.
01:24:32.000 They put me in Kuwait.
01:24:33.000 I think if I remember correctly, my visa was for uh 60 days, my work visa.
01:24:40.000 You can bet I was out of there on day 58 because I wasn't gonna let anybody in that country claim that I was missing the deadline.
01:24:47.000 So I left on the 58th day and then stayed away for a week and then came back.
01:24:52.000 That was my obligation.
01:24:54.000 Look, everybody's gonna obey the law.
01:24:55.000 And if you've ever traveled around the world, you know that the rest of the world is not very nice about it.
01:25:00.000 One of the ways that you would be a trailblazer if elected is that you would be the first get openly gay lieutenant governor, I believe, across the country.
01:25:08.000 Can you talk a little bit?
01:25:10.000 I mean, statewide elected official in Virginia, and and no Republican who's gay has ever been elected statewide ever.
01:25:19.000 Democrats have been doing Virginian Republicans ready for a gay lieutenant governor?
01:25:25.000 Uh I think they are ready for a solid conservative.
01:25:29.000 And that's me.
01:25:30.000 The fact that I'm gay is I I'm not gonna lie to you.
01:25:34.000 There's some people who are upset about that, but I can't help them.
01:25:37.000 I mean, I worked for Ronald Reagan.
01:25:38.000 I was comms director for George Allen.
01:25:40.000 I've spent the last eight years standing up for everything Christian conservatives are concerned about and believe in.
01:25:48.000 Most of which I completely uh correspond with.
01:25:52.000 So I think a lot of people were skeptical when I first started running, like, oh my God, we we can't cross this line.
01:25:58.000 And then they got to know me.
01:25:59.000 They went back and listened to the 9,000 hours of broadcast time where I stood up for them and the things they believe in.
01:26:06.000 And now they're like, well, damn, how crazy is it that there is a gay Republican who actually has the balls to stand up and say what needs to be said and to defend us and defend law and order.
01:26:17.000 And I think that counts.
01:26:18.000 There are many gay Republicans.
01:26:20.000 Uh I think most prominently Scott Bessant.
01:26:22.000 Um I feel like there is a non-insignificant minority in the Republican Party, though, who is questioning the O'Burgerfeld decision.
01:26:29.000 How would you respond to somebody who a Republican who says I can't support you because of your sexuality?
01:26:35.000 Has have you come across that on the campus?
01:26:36.000 Oh, oh my gosh, there have been plenty of people who have have said that.
01:26:39.000 And I've said, well, you know, when it was the primary time, of course, it's your vote, you get to decide whether I represent you well enough or not, or whether I match up.
01:26:47.000 I I I would ask them to actually search their soul as to whether they have you ever voted for a candidate that you thought was perfect.
01:26:54.000 I mean, really.
01:26:55.000 I voted for my dad nine times.
01:26:57.000 And we didn't agree on everything.
01:26:58.000 I didn't think he was perfect, but he represented me by and large the way I wanted him to.
01:27:04.000 I made the argument that that was me in this case.
01:27:07.000 Um and then now that I am the nominee, I have said to some people, well, now you got two choices.
01:27:14.000 You can go with the gay guy that you really don't like, but yeah, he's with you.
01:27:19.000 Or you can vote for the radical leftist who's, you know, a Muslim and wants to put girls uh in jeopardy in their locker room and wants boys to play on girls' sports and voted to keep the schools closed for an extra year and the mask mandate.
01:27:35.000 I mean, she's everything you say you hate, but what you can't vote for me, and I'm I actually have stood up for you overnight.
01:27:42.000 There's a proven thing, it's not like a hypothetical.
01:27:44.000 I mean, that's a moral dilemma that you have to make.
01:27:47.000 I don't know.
01:27:48.000 Let's jump to the story.
01:27:49.000 We got video emerging from New York.
01:27:51.000 Protesters take the streets of Times Square in Manhattan in Manhattan, chanting F Charlie Kirk and calling him racist.
01:27:58.000 They're uh they're demanding justice for Corey Zucottis and Trey Reed, two people, one of them a black student, were found hanging from uh trees at uh in Mississippi.
01:28:07.000 This is at different locations.
01:28:09.000 Uh, I will stress.
01:28:11.000 Trey Reed committed suicide.
01:28:12.000 That's the medical examiner report.
01:28:14.000 They're protesting for a dude who it's sad took his own life while screaming F. Charlie Kirk.
01:28:19.000 No, you guys gotta give it Charlie Kirk.
01:28:21.000 Fuck Charlie Kirk.
01:28:24.000 Fuck Charlie Kirk, fucking Kirk.
01:28:26.000 Why?
01:28:28.000 Fuck Charlie Kirk!
01:28:29.000 Fuck Charlie Kirk!
01:28:31.000 Fuck Charlie Kurt!
01:28:33.000 Charlie Kerr!
01:28:35.000 He was a racist.
01:28:40.000 He was a racist!
01:28:42.000 Personally familiar with that protester who's threatened me in my Instagram DM.
01:28:45.000 It was not really prominent.
01:28:50.000 He's doing this for attention.
01:28:51.000 And look, nobody gives a crap.
01:28:52.000 Nobody gives a shit.
01:28:53.000 He's just trying to be controversial.
01:28:54.000 Justice for Trey.
01:28:55.000 Can I just show you this?
01:28:57.000 This is from uh uh here we go.
01:29:01.000 Clarion Ledger, MS Medical Examiner releases report on hanging of black man at Delta State.
01:29:06.000 They even called it a hanging of a black man.
01:29:08.000 The Mississippi medical examiner has come to the conclusion that the hanging death of Trey Reed from a tree at Delta State was consistent with suicide.
01:29:16.000 Findings were consistent with the initial investigation determining the cause of death to be hanging in the manner of death as suicide.
01:29:22.000 Final toxicology results are pending, it may take two to four weeks.
01:29:25.000 This is what we have to deal with.
01:29:26.000 I just saw a post from this liberal person I know where they they posted to their Instagram story a guy being like, how do you know if you're actually on the right side of both sides are saying that they're right about everything?
01:29:36.000 And I'm like, I read the news all day, every day and fact check it, and I don't know how you conclude anything different when the medical examiner says it was a suicide, but they're protesting for justice while screaming Charlie was a racist.
01:29:49.000 They don't live in reality.
01:29:52.000 These guys are looking for attention.
01:29:53.000 These are losers who are looking for attention.
01:29:55.000 Every single protester and every liberal, sure.
01:29:58.000 This guy in particular.
01:30:00.000 I got to be taking care of his children at home.
01:30:03.000 Is that guy a career activist?
01:30:05.000 Like he's just a loser bum, no no job or dead end job, and How does he buy food?
01:30:12.000 Some run down apart apartment and out of town, doesn't pay his child support, isn't married to his baby mama.
01:30:18.000 Half of those are are good educated guesses.
01:30:21.000 But I I take the bet nonetheless.
01:30:23.000 Yeah.
01:30:25.000 Demons.
01:30:26.000 Yeah.
01:30:27.000 Demons walking among us.
01:30:28.000 This is this is crazy.
01:30:29.000 I got I gotta pull this up because I don't know what's going on anymore these days.
01:30:31.000 This this tweet just dropped.
01:30:33.000 Numerous officers rushing towards UNCW amphitheater with a helicopter circling above.
01:30:38.000 Law enforcement officer report reported that four suspects are in custody while one fled to the woods.
01:30:42.000 We have no idea when he said.
01:30:43.000 I saw a different report that said there was one apprehension, and it was that was the person that was seen with the walking with the rifle.
01:30:51.000 So I don't know if that's true.
01:30:51.000 Yeah.
01:30:53.000 I looked at it like just a few minutes ago.
01:30:57.000 Uh investigating rifle, but I mean it's I don't see any I don't see any latest updates.
01:31:03.000 Um there's they're saying continue to shelter in place while the law enforcement are doing sweeps.
01:31:10.000 Guys, I I don't know what's going on in this country.
01:31:12.000 All I can tell you is we may be hyper focused on social media, so every little instance looks like something bigger than it really is.
01:31:21.000 Or we could be in something bigger than it we think it is.
01:31:24.000 However, this is the same school where they vandalized a Charlie memorial with the trans flag just a day ago, right?
01:31:32.000 A couple of days ago.
01:31:33.000 Yeah, with the colors of the trans flag, they just they were using the uh the rock, the thing.
01:31:37.000 Apparently, yeah, yeah, I'm told after the fact that uh I only just learned this.
01:31:42.000 You they the rock is painted over every other day.
01:31:44.000 So the painting over the memorial was just a normal process by which people come and change and the and tomorrow someone else will pay it.
01:31:50.000 She did that very deliberately, of course.
01:31:52.000 I mean, I saw the video, it didn't look like she was authorized to that.
01:31:56.000 Apparently they call it like memorial like it's like called like freedom rock or honor rock or something like that, and anybody can go and paint it whenever they want.
01:32:03.000 And it gets painted over every other day or something.
01:32:03.000 Okay.
01:32:05.000 But to walk up and do it right in front of the people that are having their own ceremony.
01:32:10.000 So it's not vandalism, but it's still in response to Charlie Kirk and its trans colors specifically because it was Charlie Kirk.
01:32:17.000 Right.
01:32:17.000 Here's some more video.
01:32:18.000 Mario Naufel's posting this.
01:32:21.000 Oh my god.
01:32:24.000 Holy shit.
01:32:28.000 Oh they're still saying shelter in place.
01:32:33.000 Following this video of the guy with the rifle.
01:32:35.000 I don't know.
01:32:35.000 You know, uh honestly, like somebody walks around with a gun, and then people scream and lose their minds for no reason.
01:32:41.000 That's what happened in Utah, where that Antifa guy had a an AR-15 that he was open carrying legally, and then two liberal guys freaked out and started shooting at him and killed a random guy.
01:32:51.000 It's like that that dude carrying the rifle, did nothing wrong.
01:32:54.000 I don't I don't like Antifa, but he's allowed to open carry.
01:32:58.000 I don't think that's allowed on a campus, though.
01:33:00.000 Campus, I understand.
01:33:01.000 That's why I'm saying, like he's clearly doing it to menace other people.
01:33:04.000 This guy carrying that rifle.
01:33:06.000 That how is he menacing anybody?
01:33:08.000 He's not pointing at anybody.
01:33:09.000 What is he doing coming home from class and just randomly has a rifle in his face?
01:33:13.000 What if it's an air rifle he got with the days like we can't tell what that is?
01:33:16.000 Yeah.
01:33:16.000 It could be a BB gun.
01:33:18.000 Right.
01:33:18.000 That's why I'm saying, like, we see all these videos with the cops running and freaking out, and it may be like someone posted the video, everybody panicked, a bunch of reports started coming in because everyone's freaking out, and then it's possible.
01:33:28.000 I'm not saying this is not uh shelter in place, take it seriously.
01:33:32.000 But it may turn out this guy, like the next gate the next day is like was that because of me?
01:33:37.000 I I mean there are parts of the country where that would not freak people at.
01:33:40.000 That's my point.
01:33:41.000 You have to be autistic to not know.
01:33:43.000 No, absolutely not.
01:33:44.000 In in North Carolina, in Florida, in Virginia, in Virginia, you can buy a break, a break action uh twenty-two uh air rifle, pellet gun that looks just like that.
01:33:55.000 And if you're if you're walking around with it, no one's gonna care.
01:33:58.000 You could walk into a Walmart and buy one and walk out with it over your shoulder.
01:34:00.000 But you would think this guy, if he's at all aware of what's going on, if if he means no harm, would put it in a case or would make sure that it's a good idea.
01:34:09.000 Yeah, if he has any social decorum and you know what he's doing.
01:34:13.000 And fear for his own safety, but he's walking gay.
01:34:16.000 I'm just gonna say it.
01:34:18.000 Everyone's thinking it.
01:34:19.000 He was walking gay.
01:34:21.000 Uh let's see.
01:34:22.000 It's it's it's an open carry state.
01:34:25.000 Uh and it is a permit uh you need a concealed carry license for concealed carry.
01:34:30.000 So uh for long guns, you can open carry.
01:34:34.000 He's not doing anything wrong.
01:34:36.000 I doubt that's allowed on campus, though.
01:34:38.000 Um it is in Utah, even where we look this up where uh where uh Charlie Kirk got shot, you can open carry rifles.
01:34:47.000 Yeah, I just I doubt that that's allowed on UNC Wilmington's campus.
01:34:52.000 Let's find out.
01:34:55.000 I mean, look that they've got a shelter in place order.
01:34:58.000 Were there people shot or were there shots that were heard, or was it?
01:35:01.000 It is prohibited on the campus.
01:35:03.000 Yeah.
01:35:04.000 Most campuses probably.
01:35:05.000 Yeah.
01:35:06.000 Yeah.
01:35:07.000 I mean, so he's making a statement of some kind.
01:35:09.000 Right.
01:35:10.000 Assuming he wasn't trying to threaten someone, he's making some sort of statement.
01:35:14.000 Bro thought that was tough.
01:35:15.000 And it didn't, it ain't gonna work out for him.
01:35:17.000 No.
01:35:19.000 One way or another.
01:35:20.000 I mean look at it.
01:35:20.000 No.
01:35:22.000 All I saw is that one person had been taken into custody.
01:35:26.000 Uh maybe outdated now.
01:35:28.000 Okay, the exemptions ex uh do exist.
01:35:30.000 Instructional supplies, uh, tools uh for instruction, maintenance, weapon use for education or school sanctioned ceremonial purposes or in school approved programs.
01:35:41.000 So it's likely an unkosher rifle on campus.
01:35:46.000 Right.
01:35:47.000 Yep.
01:35:48.000 I'll I'll put it like this.
01:35:50.000 Um this is what a civil war would look like.
01:35:53.000 And I I think people don't again, I said it over and over again this past week because of the severity of what's going on.
01:36:00.000 But yeah, you can't open carry on that campus, and a video comes out of a guy, and honestly, we don't even know if that's at UNCW, to be completely honest.
01:36:06.000 Maybe the people who are there do, but for me watching this video, I have no idea.
01:36:09.000 You get videos of police running, you get reports of a 22-year-old threatening to make bombs, you get reports of a congressional staffer being immolated saying I don't want to die, and they're saying we'll release a report later, no signs of foul play.
01:36:21.000 You get stories like this all the time.
01:36:23.000 That's what it looks like.
01:36:25.000 This is what's scary.
01:36:26.000 So we are we are absolutely this is a civil strife period.
01:36:29.000 Charlie Kirk was just assassinated.
01:36:31.000 So we are in civil strife.
01:36:33.000 The security stuff that I'm having to deal with is nuts.
01:36:36.000 And uh I just I don't see I don't see any meaningful path towards going back.
01:36:44.000 Except tough leaders who start enforcing law.
01:36:46.000 That's the only thing that's not going.
01:36:47.000 We're not going back.
01:36:48.000 That wants to be a good idea.
01:36:49.000 You don't even have that way to do it.
01:36:50.000 Already when Trump said anti-fusterists, what were their response?
01:36:53.000 Yeah.
01:36:53.000 They said Trump's making it illegal to fight fascism and they're mobilizing.
01:36:57.000 Yeah, if you look at the the response from the left, if you try to be, you know, a law and order president, say this is we're gonna do these things because they're breaking the law, etc.
01:37:06.000 The response is he's a fascist, he's a Nazi, we have to stop this because next thing you know, they're gonna have train cars and there's gonna be camps and blah, blah, blah.
01:37:13.000 They were calling Al Alligator Alcatraz a camp, you know, because oh, look, but it's what the immigration thing is working, though.
01:37:20.000 The self-deportation is working.
01:37:23.000 Yeah.
01:37:23.000 What I'm saying is the left is going to respond in a hyperbolic way.
01:37:27.000 They did, they killed Charlie Kirk.
01:37:28.000 So the more that's certainly true.
01:37:28.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:37:30.000 Yeah.
01:37:30.000 And they're calling for more death.
01:37:32.000 This wasn't this wasn't a sobering moment for leftists and liberals.
01:37:35.000 It it was a green light.
01:37:37.000 And that that's what I was saying.
01:37:38.000 So periodically, while we do these shows, if those don't know, I'm constantly going through Twitter looking for breaking news.
01:37:44.000 That's why I'm finding the breaking stuff new stuff.
01:37:46.000 And I'm seeing posts from liberals that I know that are justifying even right now, Charlie Kirk's murder.
01:37:51.000 How am I supposed to talk to these people?
01:37:53.000 Well, that's true.
01:37:53.000 Yeah.
01:37:54.000 Yeah.
01:37:54.000 They're posting videos saying MAGA is a cult, don't trust them, they're all wrong.
01:37:58.000 And I'm like, it is crazy that people like Destiny.
01:38:03.000 He's he's he's lying.
01:38:04.000 D discernibly and manipulatively.
01:38:07.000 Uh politics girl made a video where she said he came from a conservative background.
01:38:13.000 That was an intentional manipulation because she knows we already knew that, but that he was living with a trans lover.
01:38:19.000 That's the place reported.
01:38:20.000 That he said that uh he he he he couldn't negotiate with with uh Charlie Kick's uh Charlie Kirk's hate.
01:38:26.000 And so, while I certainly don't blindly trust that those messages are 100% true, it looks like they may have some someone fabricated something.
01:38:35.000 The point is all available evidence indicates this person is left aligned.
01:38:39.000 Why would politics girl intentionally lie?
01:38:41.000 Why would you say the engravings were just markings from a manufacturer?
01:38:44.000 She knows she's lying.
01:38:46.000 There's no way, no way.
01:38:48.000 And then I have to deal with liberals that I've known for decades, believing that and telling me I'm in the cult and I deserve to die.
01:38:54.000 Or that they say, well, look, the people that are saying you should die are just angry, and I'm like, shut your mouth.
01:39:00.000 Yeah, look There is no going back.
01:39:02.000 When that when I know when there are people that I've known for 20 years posting videos saying Charlie deserved it, I don't know where we go from there.
01:39:08.000 These are people that I played Tony Hawk's Pro Stator 2 with over Christmas.
01:39:12.000 And they are posting that my friend should have died, or the crazy ones that Trump killed him on purpose to justify an expansion of a fascist state.
01:39:19.000 There's no reasoning with a lunatic who's gone off the deep end.
01:39:23.000 And I am not talking about leftists.
01:39:25.000 I am talking about a run of the mill default lib in Chicago who doesn't know up from down in the political world.
01:39:30.000 And if you said what a Supreme Court justice means, they'd be like, when we win the ruling.
01:39:34.000 That's the level of politics I'm talking about.
01:39:36.000 And they're saying Charlie Kirk deserved it.
01:39:38.000 How am I supposed to talk to people like that?
01:39:40.000 I don't see how we're going back.
01:39:42.000 Like the fact that you can't talk to people, like they say, well, you know, you want to bring the temperature down.
01:39:42.000 That's the point.
01:39:48.000 And fine, that sounds great, right?
01:39:50.000 But how do you bring the temperature down when the other side doesn't want to talk about it?
01:39:53.000 Doesn't want to listen to your opinion.
01:39:54.000 And when they when you do say your opinion, someone like Charlie Charlie Kirk, who is incredibly moderate, he was a normie Republican with very boring, normal religious views, stuff that's not in any way extreme.
01:40:07.000 Right.
01:40:08.000 And they call you all these horrible names, they make up lies about what you say, they take your they take your statements out of context.
01:40:14.000 You can't reach a place where conversation is possible.
01:40:17.000 And again, this guy, this normie conservative guy, was murdered because they thought that he was too extreme.
01:40:26.000 So how do you get people to come to the table to when they're specifically refusing to have any kind of dialogue?
01:40:32.000 When when default libs are saying, Yeah, well, he was a racist, and they're standing in the street saying he was a racist to justify it when Jimmy Kimmel is going on ABC and saying it was MAGA that did it, and Trump, look how he mourns and mocks it.
01:40:49.000 And then Jimmy Kimmel says, because this is all over all over X right now, that he was going to blame MAGA and double down on this.
01:40:55.000 I'm just like The only reason to have hope, the only reason, is that there have been some consequences for that bad behavior this time.
01:41:06.000 Some people have lost their jobs, some people have said, you know what, this crosses the line.
01:41:10.000 Some I mean, I'm honestly I'm surprised that there's been that level of consequence.
01:41:17.000 But what does that mean to to somebody who's living under the fear of death?
01:41:21.000 I mean, to you or to me as a candidate or to all of us.
01:41:24.000 I mean, that I don't I don't feel better about it if you're not.
01:41:27.000 Any old lady who wants to go to a Trump rally.
01:41:29.000 Oh, yeah.
01:41:30.000 But we've known this has been the problem.
01:41:32.000 We didn't discipline, we didn't discipline these people who harassed the people who were standing in line to go to the Trump rally back in 2016.
01:41:39.000 But what seventeen, right?
01:41:40.000 So let me let me let me ask you a question.
01:41:42.000 I hear what you're saying.
01:41:43.000 Um a dog takes a dump on your floor, and then you come back later and the dog runs up to you all happy, and then you grab it by the collar and you yell at it.
01:41:55.000 Will that teach the dog not to poop on the floor?
01:41:58.000 You go put their face exactly.
01:42:00.000 The dog has to know why you're yelling at it.
01:42:02.000 Right.
01:42:03.000 What happens if the dog doesn't understand?
01:42:06.000 The dog will do it again, right?
01:42:08.000 If he doesn't understand, that's why you gotta make it clear.
01:42:10.000 And that's what we have failed to do for a day.
01:42:12.000 We can't because we are not talking about the simplicity of animals.
01:42:16.000 We are talking about liberals.
01:42:18.000 When you say, hey, you can't advocate death, they go, Look, I told you this would happen.
01:42:24.000 This proves it, Trump's a fascist, it's my free speech, and politics girl and Kyle Kalinski and Hassan and Destiny are lying.
01:42:34.000 So it's not just that you're taking the dog and saying, look what you did, bad dog.
01:42:38.000 It is more complex than that, where someone else is simultaneously saying, I warned you that would happen.
01:42:43.000 It wasn't actually that you made the mess, it's that I told you he was gonna hit you because he hates you.
01:42:47.000 This is why you gotta be engaged.
01:42:48.000 And you are, and I am, and other people are, to try to counter that false narrative.
01:42:54.000 And you can't.
01:42:56.000 I mean, you've you don't you just don't think there's any turning back intellectually.
01:43:01.000 They need to feel pain, and the pain that will be inflicted on them is social ostracization, penalizing them with freedom of association.
01:43:09.000 We're already seeing that.
01:43:10.000 The default that we're giving to them that we're not meeting them, meeting their cruelty with more cruelty.
01:43:18.000 And those are those are matters within our own hands that we don't have to wait for leaders to show up and I would just say force the law.
01:43:26.000 That's what I would say.
01:43:27.000 Yes, and that's not going to stop default libs from posting on Instagram that Charlie deserved it and you should die.
01:43:32.000 That's not gonna stop it.
01:43:33.000 So what you are saying is correct, Mary, there's a problem there.
01:43:37.000 The far left will far left.
01:43:38.000 They're not gonna change.
01:43:39.000 They they are cognizant of what they are doing, they are intentionally lying.
01:43:43.000 So this idea of punishing them or ostracizing them won't change the fact.
01:43:47.000 You can try and censor them, they're gonna double down because they have a political mission.
01:43:51.000 And that political mission won't stop with being silenced.
01:43:54.000 It's true for people on the right.
01:43:55.000 You silence Alex Jones, he's not going away.
01:43:57.000 He's something he believes in.
01:43:58.000 The issue is you got to get default libs to stop posting that Charlie was a racist and deserved it.
01:44:05.000 But they were allowed to.
01:44:06.000 They were allowed to express an opinion, even if it's wrong.
01:44:09.000 The actual solution would be to some degree for normies to be told you can't post misinformation, right?
01:44:16.000 Well, we saw what happened with the Trump administration.
01:44:18.000 They tried that against conservatives, and it didn't work.
01:44:21.000 They tried it every way up from down.
01:44:24.000 They even banned parlor off the app stores for fake reasons to make sure conservatives could not organize, and none of it ever worked.
01:44:32.000 So I do not believe doing the same thing to the left is going to change anything they do.
01:44:37.000 If you go to a default lib and they say something like Charlie was racist, so you ban them for misinformation, they'll go to blue sky, they'll go to Mastodon.
01:44:44.000 They will show up in person to the activist event and say, You were right, they're fascists.
01:44:48.000 They ban me for my opinion.
01:44:49.000 It's it that's why I do not I I look at it like this.
01:44:54.000 And everything I do in business and everything that I do with the projects I work on is a mathematical equation.
01:44:59.000 And so what one example is let's just take a look at the size of Timcast, the scale of the business, the work that I do, I work extremely hard and I calculate and I plan ahead.
01:45:09.000 And so I can dodge the manipulative enforcement, I can uh navigate how they try to silence and censor, but I can also do the math to hire people, grow the business, calculating in such a way, where do we got to put money to make this business grow and succeed?
01:45:23.000 And the ancillary projects.
01:45:24.000 How can we make the inverted world bigger pop culture crisis and the boonies?
01:45:27.000 And the boonies is doing it, has now seen tremendous growth with the events we're doing.
01:45:31.000 I'm particularly good, nowhere near the best.
01:45:34.000 I'm actually near the bottom.
01:45:35.000 There's a there's a list of people who are pretty good at running to business.
01:45:38.000 I'm near the bottom, but still pretty good.
01:45:39.000 And when I look at everything that's going on in the world and I look to make predictions, and I say, what am I predicting?
01:45:46.000 What is the mathematical equation and where does it end up?
01:45:48.000 There's a reason why I'm not in the city anymore.
01:45:51.000 And isn't it the correct decision based on where we are today that I left the city and came out to the middle of nowhere?
01:45:56.000 Considering the fact that we have security gates, armed guards, and other security issues that I'm not going to bring up, certainly that calculation was a correct one.
01:46:05.000 Me doing this show from the city as I was before is a huge mistake.
01:46:09.000 And that's just one calculation that I've made in how do I effectively do this based on what we're going to see happening.
01:46:17.000 My my view of this right now is I have laid out as many variables as I can, and I do not see a mathematical equation that de-radicalizes the left.
01:46:26.000 Well, you're you're correct that the way we're penalizing them now by uh calling their jobs, whatever, social ostracization.
01:46:35.000 That doesn't change the matter of what's in their heart and what's in their conscience because it didn't work on the right when the right was being silenced and censored and oppressed.
01:46:45.000 It actually, if anything, strengthened their beliefs and radicalized them further to the right.
01:46:50.000 So we can't we getting the left fired and all the stuff that's happening with Charlie Kirk may feel really good because we're in a culture war, but it's entrenching the left and it's being used as cannon fodder by the far left and Antifa to rally and recruit.
01:47:03.000 And it's going to actually turn more default libs.
01:47:06.000 So what I'm seeing among the liberal cohort cohort of the thousands of people I have on Facebook, the average person has no idea about Tucker or Roseanne or any of these things because they don't follow conservative circles.
01:47:19.000 The only information they get is what's filtered to them through the lying liberal pundits.
01:47:23.000 Now that Jimmy Kimmel's been fired, what are they being told?
01:47:26.000 The FCC under Trump forced ABC to fire Jimmy Kimmel for criticizing him, and they believe it.
01:47:32.000 So when people start losing their jobs, they go, oh my God, they were right.
01:47:35.000 Trump's a fascist.
01:47:36.000 And when you try to go to them and say, Can I show you the news articles that debunk all of this and break it down for you?
01:47:43.000 They go, they warned me you try and lie.
01:47:46.000 They told me the fascists would come and try and lie to me.
01:47:49.000 That proves it.
01:47:50.000 And I've personally experienced this.
01:47:51.000 I was in San Bernardino, and they were Trump supporters on one corner of the street and anti-fail leftists on the other side of the street.
01:47:57.000 And I was why this was this was back, this is 2016, I think.
01:48:01.000 2015, maybe.
01:48:02.000 I think it was 16.
01:48:03.000 I crossed the street to the anti-facet, and there's people standing around wearing black.
01:48:08.000 And I said, Hey, how's it going, guys?
01:48:09.000 Do you mind if uh I talked to you some guy like some of you about what you're protesting?
01:48:13.000 And then some guy goes, Oh, yeah, we're here.
01:48:15.000 Immediately, one of the facilitators goes, Mike, check.
01:48:18.000 And they all in unison yell, Mike, check.
01:48:21.000 And then the person goes, they they do mic check like five times.
01:48:24.000 Mike, check, mic, check, mike, check.
01:48:26.000 And then all of a sudden you're not talking anymore.
01:48:28.000 And they go, do not.
01:48:30.000 And then everyone repeats, do not talk to, talk to reporters, reporters.
01:48:36.000 They will, they will lie to you.
01:48:39.000 Lie to you to trick you to trick you.
01:48:42.000 And then I'm sitting there like, did anybody want to talk?
01:48:45.000 And they're like, get out of here, man.
01:48:46.000 And I was like, what the just happened.
01:48:49.000 Every you've seen it.
01:48:50.000 Totally.
01:48:51.000 Many times.
01:48:52.000 It's a death call.
01:48:54.000 So when we try to talk to these people, now don't get me wrong.
01:48:57.000 I know there are people watching the show and have watched it.
01:48:59.000 So I said, you know, I watched your videos and I got woken up to what was going on.
01:49:02.000 I don't think that it's it's fruitless, but I seriously feel like it's probably two to four percent of the country.
01:49:09.000 And so it's worth doing, and we'll keep doing it.
01:49:11.000 And I pretty two to four percent of the country that's influenced by you.
01:49:14.000 That's capable of being like made aware of the lies.
01:49:18.000 Do you think more than 50% of the country is lost in this mess?
01:49:23.000 Yes.
01:49:24.000 And I think the polling the how many people voted for Kamala Harris.
01:49:27.000 Yeah, I know.
01:49:28.000 Voting may be different than the culture.
01:49:30.000 But after everything we saw, after everything we saw, by all means, you can argue that Kamala got 10 million extra votes.
01:49:36.000 Whatever, don't care.
01:49:36.000 Call it 60 million votes after COVID lockdowns, after Fauci's lies, after you gotta wear two masks now, two masks.
01:49:44.000 People believed all this, and they still voted for her, and they still to this day maintain those positions.
01:49:51.000 That is the hyperpolarization of the country.
01:49:53.000 They're in two different distinct worlds.
01:49:55.000 You know what?
01:49:56.000 You guys talk for a second.
01:49:57.000 I'm gonna try and find a video.
01:49:59.000 Well, I also wanted to mention that there are people on the left who still have a conscience and humanity left, and they're being absolutely dragged right now by their own side, including the man who was in the middle of dialogue with Charlie when he was shot.
01:50:14.000 He made a TikTok after the fact talking about the fact that ironically he was trying to argue with Charlie about how the left is nonviolent.
01:50:23.000 And he unequivocally, of course, condemned the murder, and he didn't even qualify his statement or anything.
01:50:31.000 And they have just absolutely dragged him over the coals for for saying that.
01:50:38.000 And then also another girl who debated Charlie in a Jubilee video.
01:50:43.000 Um, it was like the biggest clip that got farmed off of that.
01:50:47.000 They're all just cloud chasing, yeah.
01:50:49.000 She made a TikTok as well, um, condemning the murder, and she didn't qualify her statement or excuse it or downplay it or celebrate it, certainly.
01:50:57.000 And uh they're like, Oh, she's not down with the cause.
01:51:00.000 You know, we we can't trust her.
01:51:02.000 She's she's not really down with the revolution.
01:51:06.000 So that's what's happening right now.
01:51:08.000 Anyone on the list is the majority minded.
01:51:08.000 That's the question.
01:51:10.000 So uh remarkable.
01:51:13.000 This was so easy to find.
01:51:15.000 Uh, here's the video watch.
01:51:17.000 about racism and compassion.
01:51:29.000 The audio is pretty bad on this one.
01:51:33.000 Why is the audio so bad on this one?
01:51:34.000 Let me try and find a better one.
01:51:35.000 You guys keep talking.
01:51:36.000 Uh this video, it's thousands of people in a park holding up their hands chanting, chanting about how racist they are.
01:51:44.000 These are the conservatives don't do this.
01:51:46.000 It's a sea of white skin.
01:51:48.000 Yeah.
01:51:49.000 Let me see if I can find better audio because I just gotta hope that that's not the that the crazies are not the majority.
01:51:55.000 You matter you get manipulated by the minority, no question.
01:51:58.000 But but it doesn't matter if it's the majority or not.
01:52:03.000 All that matters is there's enough.
01:52:05.000 Like three or four percent of the population can destroy a country.
01:52:09.000 That is certainly true.
01:52:10.000 So it's absolutely it doesn't matter if there's a majority, it just depends on how many are actually motivated to take action.
01:52:17.000 I mean, it wasn't most of America in the streets during 2020.
01:52:22.000 But there was enough where there was billions of dollars of damage, and for the vast majority of the people that were in the streets, they weren't even engaging in the violent actions.
01:52:34.000 There was maybe 10% that were out of the city.
01:52:36.000 That's why I'm saying you gotta have leaders who will say, I doesn't matter whether I agree with you or not.
01:52:42.000 You are not going to get away.
01:52:43.000 You gotta have to do this.
01:52:45.000 You're not gonna allow this to happen.
01:52:47.000 To your point, you gotta have way more prisons because you need to put the people that actually will act into jail.
01:52:55.000 So you have to take them off the streets.
01:52:57.000 You can't have people that will engage in revolutionary activities like that.
01:53:01.000 You have to take them out of the puppy of out of the public.
01:53:04.000 You have to take them off the streets.
01:53:05.000 They can't be free because they're literally trying to destroy your society.
01:53:09.000 We did that for 10 years.
01:53:10.000 If we were tough for 10 years, under the current law, don't have to change it.
01:53:15.000 Enforce the current law harshly.
01:53:17.000 I think you would see a cultural change.
01:53:19.000 Maybe a little late, but I think we could still save this.
01:53:22.000 I'd love to agree with you, but the problem is Karen.
01:53:26.000 The problem is l is awful.
01:53:29.000 Affluent white upper class liberal women, they will see people getting arrested and then they will vote for whatever they have to vote for to end it.
01:53:38.000 And then those people will be put back on the streets.
01:53:40.000 You have you have DAs and you have judges that won't put people in jail right now.
01:53:45.000 So I I I agree with you.
01:53:47.000 But your prescription requires not just a president or governors or or what have you.
01:53:54.000 You need uh an entire revamping of the justice system, and you have to get rid of people that think of think that restorative justice is a good idea.
01:54:02.000 Oh, no question.
01:54:03.000 All of that stuff.
01:54:04.000 But that's why I'm hopeful that if if Trump let's just take DC for example.
01:54:08.000 I I had a place in DC for twelve years.
01:54:11.000 I watched the bars come off the apartments when things were getting better, and then I watched the bars go back on because people started to get attacked again.
01:54:20.000 And I'm hoping that the average person, especially these affluent people who bought expensive condos and thought it was so much fun to walk around drunk at two o'clock in the morning in DC and now can't do that, are gonna be glad.
01:54:31.000 You're like, I hate Trump.
01:54:32.000 But thank God he's kind of cracked down on the bad guys who were trying to rob me and carjack me and break into my house.
01:54:40.000 And then am I stupid for thinking maybe they'll change their vote?
01:54:44.000 I mean, like I would I I agree with you, but the task at this point has become so monumental, and there are people that are not plugged in politically, they're not aware, they don't they don't deal with this stuff on a day-to-day basis,
01:55:00.000 and I'm skeptical as to if we can actually get the kind of changes in not just in in the leadership, but in the justice system, in DAs and in judges that will actually solve the problem.
01:55:15.000 So a little off topic, but Mary, I'm just dying to know because if we were kind of talking about it earlier um when we were talking about Mr. Reed.
01:55:23.000 What not this?
01:55:25.000 Could you vote for a gay candidate and like why or why not?
01:55:29.000 Well, look, you don't have to worry about me.
01:55:31.000 I don't live in Virginia, so you don't need my vote, but I did say that I wouldn't be uncomfortable voting for a gay candidate.
01:55:40.000 Yes.
01:55:41.000 I I said that, and I stand by that.
01:55:43.000 And and why do you feel that way?
01:55:45.000 Um, you know, you asked me what my reasoning was, and I told you quite bluntly, I don't know if I have a very sophisticated reasoned explanation for it.
01:55:53.000 Um faith-based for you.
01:55:56.000 Well, yes.
01:55:57.000 Um, it's also sort of an instinctual like disgust factor, but um Jesus Christ.
01:56:02.000 She does represent the blasphemy and then you blaspheme.
01:56:06.000 I was saying Jesus, Jesus Christ, like a good thing.
01:56:09.000 Oh, okay.
01:56:11.000 Look, it's not relevant to what we're discussing right now.
01:56:14.000 I think that we should stay on topic.
01:56:16.000 Um what I wanted to point out before you brought that up was that to what Phil was saying, it's actually not as slim of a minority as three or four percent um that we're talking about.
01:56:28.000 And I think that's what's been clarified for a lot of people uh through their own day-to-day interactions.
01:56:35.000 The revolutionary family members with their friends, with their co-workers and acquaintances, rather than a fringe element that you only find online or at protests.
01:56:47.000 They're realizing that their flesh and blood family members or their closest friends, uh, people they've known for decades in some cases, are part of that.
01:56:58.000 Uh maybe it's not even a minority.
01:57:00.000 Maybe it's not.
01:57:01.000 Uh, I know you're coming at it from a more hopeful perspective that the majority is is normal people who don't want this, but I'm not so sure.
01:57:09.000 I'm not sure either, but I have some hope that there have been people who have stood up after Charlie Kirk is assassinated for sitting in a chair and talking to people and have said, Oh my God, that crosses the line.
01:57:22.000 Thank goodness there's still people who think that crosses the line seems so obvious to me.
01:57:27.000 Um, I mean, clearly there are some people who are making excuses.
01:57:30.000 The other thing that I think is good if anything good comes out of this, is that Charlie Kirk created a body of work which is available online, and I get the impression.
01:57:42.000 I mean, you know, everybody's Facebook feed or TikTok feed is different, but I get the impression a lot of people are seeking that out to understand who he was and what he talked about.
01:57:53.000 Was it crazy?
01:57:54.000 Was it extreme?
01:57:55.000 And I I've got to believe that the average person, even if they're a big lib or a or consider themselves to be a leftist, seeing an assassination and then looking at why he was assassinated, hypothetically, will sober some people up.
01:58:11.000 Like this is wrong.
01:58:12.000 This I uh this is just not right, I think.
01:58:15.000 And even that gruesome footage of the assassination doesn't really have the impact that it ought to because we see gruesome events on social media.
01:58:26.000 But that's true.
01:58:27.000 Nearly constantly.
01:58:28.000 That's true.
01:58:29.000 Um, and that was 30 or 40 years ago, this would have been mind-blowing, shocking, and now it's another thing.
01:58:35.000 It's not just young people who are chronically online that are responding in these extreme ways.
01:58:41.000 Um, I've been thinking more about the boomers who are responding to this and celebrating, ridiculing, downplaying, excusing.
01:58:50.000 I think really the the mask that default libs are wear are wearing right now to cater to leftists is going at the gun control angle with this.
01:59:01.000 Um, a lot of boomers do not understand the impact that this event has had and is going to have going forward because they grew up in a high trust society.
01:59:14.000 And I saw Charlie Sheen comparing this to uh our generation's JFK moment.
01:59:21.000 And it's not that at all.
01:59:23.000 Because as you pointed out earlier, in the country after JFK's assassination, for better or for worse, we had centralized mass media.
01:59:34.000 People were unified in recognizing the gravity of that event and mourning the loss of that leader.
01:59:43.000 And there is no comparison today with decentralized media and social media.
01:59:49.000 It's more than I thought it would be.
01:59:50.000 And the spiritual rot that has taken place since then.
01:59:53.000 This this I apologize for missing super chats.
01:59:56.000 I really do.
01:59:57.000 This took me a really long time to find because it's 237 weeks ago on my Instagram.
02:00:02.000 Oh.
02:00:02.000 But uh, I'll try playing it for you now.
02:00:08.000 About racism, anti-blackness, or violence.
02:00:13.000 Racism and anti-blackness.
02:00:16.000 I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible.
02:00:20.000 It's a cult.
02:00:22.000 Here's thousands of people chanting a religious ideology back to their proselytizer.
02:00:31.000 There is no way in any meaningful course of action, these people will be convinced they're in a cult.
02:00:37.000 That's cults, and the cult is the size of their social media.
02:00:41.000 So when I talk about the default libs and I go to my friend and I show them this video and say, this is a cult, they're gonna go, what are you talking about?
02:00:48.000 I do that.
02:00:50.000 What's wrong with that?
02:00:51.000 And you're gonna be like, holy crap.
02:00:53.000 And then when you say, let me show you a news article that proves what you think is not correct, they'll say, They told me you'd say that.
02:01:01.000 In order to break someone out of a cult, you remove them physically from the cult.
02:01:06.000 That's the first thing you do.
02:01:07.000 So if someone's in the you have to remove them from it.
02:01:09.000 You can't remove people from a digital cult.
02:01:12.000 They believe insane fake things.
02:01:14.000 They sit in parks with their hands up chanting.
02:01:17.000 I I I gotta be honest.
02:01:19.000 Prayer, I understand.
02:01:21.000 Churches, depending on your your religion and Christian religion, your your prayers are to something beyond.
02:01:28.000 These people are pranked to other people.
02:01:31.000 That's a cult.
02:01:32.000 So I'll try and grab some of your chance and rants uh chat chats and rants.
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02:01:42.000 I apologize.
02:01:43.000 I just thought it was extremely important to show that video because I'm hoping that there are some people who are gonna see how psychotic this cult is and go, whoa, that is a cult.
02:01:53.000 And that's why that video is so important.
02:01:55.000 I had to dig through my Instagram and it loads like nine videos at a time.
02:01:58.000 I had to go back 237 weeks to get there.
02:02:01.000 So anyway, I'll just try and grab two or three because we do need to go to the uncensored portion.
02:02:07.000 Hans one PK says I posted in Discord live stream of Jimmy protest outside theater.
02:02:07.000 All right, let's see.
02:02:12.000 They are recycling signs and protesters.
02:02:16.000 Interesting.
02:02:17.000 Same old man says, Do you have any idea why Tucker is going off the deep end with the whole blaming Israel and the Jews like Candace is doing?
02:02:23.000 Why using Charlie Kirk?
02:02:25.000 I don't like how they are using Kirk like that.
02:02:28.000 I will just say it is very, very weird in that Candace and Tucker seem to have inverted their political views in a short amount of time.
02:02:38.000 Not all of their views, but like within the span of a couple years, their political views are very different.
02:02:38.000 That's it.
02:02:45.000 Tucker is now, I think, defending Jimmy Kimmel.
02:02:47.000 Is he really?
02:02:48.000 Oh, well, for something about free speech.
02:02:50.000 I didn't actually see it.
02:02:51.000 So this is why I'm always careful to criticize because you know he was a worse neocon than me at one point, Tucker Carlson.
02:02:57.000 Yeah.
02:02:58.000 All right, we'll just grab uh one here.
02:03:00.000 You admitting that being a neocon is bad.
02:03:02.000 Well, I'm saying it is in a tongue-in-cheek way.
02:03:04.000 Uh but yeah, he was he was all in on the Iraq war, I believe.
02:03:07.000 Yep.
02:03:07.000 David Bricken says, This is for everyone.
02:03:09.000 I hope Sunday turns into a global event of love and compassion.
02:03:12.000 I hope Sunday turns into one of the biggest memorials in the world.
02:03:15.000 Show these people that they've awoken a Charlie Kirk in all of us.
02:03:19.000 Do it for Charlie.
02:03:20.000 Right on.
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02:05:56.000 Someone commented that Shuan had Shuan had posted a video of a a woman.
02:06:01.000 I don't know if this is a good one.
02:06:02.000 I have been called.
02:06:04.000 No.
02:06:05.000 Someone said she one had posted a video of a young woman who realized everyone around her is a uh genocidal maniac.
02:06:11.000 That's shoe on head.
02:06:13.000 She's the one that removed.
02:06:14.000 No, she someone said Shue on head posted a video of a young woman who a Bernie gal.
02:06:21.000 Oh okay.
02:06:22.000 Or I guess that still sounds like shoe.
02:06:24.000 It does.
02:06:25.000 I don't know.
02:06:26.000 We'll see what I think.
02:06:26.000 I'll play this video from her.
02:06:28.000 She just paid posted like six hours ago.
02:06:33.000 I have been making this list since 2023.
02:06:36.000 Let's go.
02:06:37.000 Let's let's just read this together real quick.
02:06:39.000 Mocking slash criticizing pop feminism.
02:06:42.000 Believing adults can do whatever they want.
02:06:44.000 Being pro-free speech, being liberal, talking to people I disagree with, being friends with people I disagree with, following people on Twitter I disagree with, supporting Bernie Sanders.
02:06:54.000 That one came from the right, being registered independent, criticizing Joe Biden, criticizing the Democratic Party, not being attracted to feminine men, not hating men in general, criticizing Canada's maid program, not taking the COVID vaccine, criticizing the FBI,
02:07:09.000 criticizing the CIA, believing the CIA killed JFK, using an American flag backdrop for my videos, saying elites, saying working class, saying based, making a joke about Joe Biden eating ice cream, making a joke about Pete Budaj being born in a test tube,
02:07:27.000 making jokes in general, being cis, being white, being a woman, being a cis white woman, telling someone to take a shower, not being anti-gun, not being fat, being monogamous, liking Huey Long, celebrating the Fourth of July, supporting Assange,
02:07:42.000 criticizing the movie Cuties, praising the movie Sound of Freedom, being against pedophilia, being against the destigmatization of pedophilia, being against children watching porn, being critical of Kink at Pride, being against children performing at drag shows, not being racist.
02:08:00.000 I swear to God.
02:08:01.000 Being a class reductionist, saying biological sex, mocking people for debating the ethics of wanting to date someone who has a good relationship with their parents.
02:08:11.000 I think she makes the point that literally anything you do, the left will attack.
02:08:14.000 There's only one thing I think that matters is if you're pro-trans, you're left.
02:08:18.000 If you're not pro-trans, you're you're right.
02:08:20.000 And the example is if you are on the left and you say something like, I don't know if I agree with universal uh healthcare, they'll say, Well, you know, blah blah blah.
02:08:29.000 But if you say, I don't agree with trans, they'll be like, You're far right.
02:08:32.000 And they'll shoot you.
02:08:33.000 Yeah.
02:08:33.000 And kill you.
02:08:35.000 So I don't see any meaningful equation as to how you convince these default libs who are in a cult how not to be.
02:08:43.000 And uh, yeah, I'll put it like this.
02:08:46.000 I uh was a nation's best fundraiser for some of the biggest nonprofits in the country, you know, including Green Peace and uh the ACLU and Children International, worked for the perk groups, big liberal uh organizations that did postcarding and signed people up and got money for them for Democrat causes.
02:09:02.000 And I was supposed to meet strangers and in the span of one minute convince them to hand their credit card to a complete stranger, me, and then pay monthly to support Democrat causes.
02:09:12.000 And I was the best in the nation.
02:09:13.000 I was one of the best.
02:09:14.000 My my buddy Mark who's who's a hero better than me at it.
02:09:17.000 We would both go out.
02:09:19.000 Quota was two people per day, sign up two people.
02:09:22.000 We do like eight in 20 minutes, and then we'd be like, let's go fuck off.
02:09:27.000 And so because it was you'd go out into the street, they expected you to be standing there all day desperately waving to people, trying to get them to convince them, and we'd get it done in about a half an hour.
02:09:37.000 We get, you know, maybe eight, and then be like, eh, fuck it.
02:09:40.000 And then we'd go chill on top of the Marina City Towers and just fuck off for a couple hours until we're supposed to come back.
02:09:45.000 Some days we'd hit quota in 10 minutes and be like, let's go play video games, take the train home, go play video games, take the train back and be like, only got two today, just like everybody else.
02:09:54.000 I can't convince these people.
02:09:56.000 I could fucking sell ice to an Eskimo.
02:09:59.000 I could sell sand to a Saudi, and I could not fucking convince these default libs that they're in a cult.
02:10:04.000 Now, obviously, there are a lot of people who watch the show who I have convinced.
02:10:07.000 Look at me wrong.
02:10:08.000 I am saying there exists a court of people, some of them who I've known for a very long time.
02:10:13.000 I've invited some of these people here, and we've had these conversations.
02:10:16.000 Their brains are rocks.
02:10:19.000 I don't mean I'm not saying they're retarded in a sense.
02:10:21.000 I'm saying they're unchangeable.
02:10:24.000 Literally bringing them here, showing them the facts, being like, actually, that wasn't gold you saw, it was silver.
02:10:31.000 Here it is.
02:10:31.000 It's right in front of you, and they'll go.
02:10:33.000 That's gold.
02:10:35.000 You're lying.
02:10:36.000 And I'm just like, what is what is happening?
02:10:38.000 So I don't know how the fuck.
02:10:41.000 I don't I don't I honestly don't think it's navigable.
02:10:43.000 I think um I think what is gonna happen is one side is going to massacre the other.
02:10:48.000 Uh I don't know when or how.
02:10:50.000 Uh in eight in the 1820s, there was talk of civil war.
02:10:52.000 Didn't happen until 1861, but you did have bleeding Kansas for seven years before the Civil War, which is brutal.
02:10:58.000 John Brown just going around fucking shooting people in the face, and that was commonplace.
02:11:02.000 And then you got a civil war.
02:11:05.000 So I don't know what happens, but I can't say that it's all accelerated because of social media and people are entrenched because of social media.
02:11:12.000 Charlie Kirk was just murdered, and the left is calling for more.
02:11:16.000 They're either lying to defend it, saying he deserved it, or outright saying, let's get more heads on pikes.
02:11:24.000 So I don't see any mathematical equation to this stopping.
02:11:27.000 If I did, I'd be doing it, but I don't.
02:11:32.000 Go ahead.
02:11:33.000 It's a climate of political violence.
02:11:35.000 We we're seeing the trend.
02:11:37.000 Um Charlie Kirk, unfortunately, is a symptom of that growing trend.
02:11:41.000 And I suspect suspect we're gonna see a lot more of this before we see less of it.
02:11:44.000 If they were able to get shots on target on the president, I don't know why that makes any of us special.
02:11:50.000 We're all reachable if the president was reachable.
02:11:53.000 It's worth noting they were able to get shots on target when he was not the president, and that the distinction does matter.
02:12:00.000 Sure, he still had Secret Service protection.
02:12:02.000 He had like the B team.
02:12:05.000 Yeah, well, I don't even have the fucking B team.
02:12:07.000 That's the fucking issue.
02:12:08.000 And this guy doesn't have anybody.
02:12:09.000 This guy has some people who volunteered to be here.
02:12:12.000 You are making me feel bad about running.
02:12:13.000 Like that was the third time I mentioned that.
02:12:16.000 Yeah, you might as well know, but you're lieutenant governor, not relevant enough.
02:12:19.000 If you really ran for office that mattered, you know.
02:12:21.000 If I ran for governor, it'd be over.
02:12:23.000 But I mean you do.
02:12:25.000 But it is one reason.
02:12:26.000 I watched what happened.
02:12:27.000 I'm swear to God, 2020 and 2021 is what made me say, is anybody gonna step up and stop this?
02:12:33.000 And I looked around Virginia and I saw some people who kind of did, and Glenn Youncan got elected, and I'm glad he got elected and he did some things to stop.
02:12:42.000 I'm like, somebody's got to get up and call this stuff out with no ambiguity.
02:12:47.000 This is right, this is wrong.
02:12:48.000 I'm not gonna apologize to you if it hurts your feelings.
02:12:51.000 I'm not gonna try to make you feel good.
02:12:52.000 I'm gonna tell you we're gonna put you in jail and put you in prison if you behave like this.
02:12:57.000 That is how a leader should behave if people's lives are being ruined and people's lives are being snuffed out.
02:13:05.000 That's why I'm doing this, because I can't tolerate it anymore.
02:13:08.000 So I think the the the equation is the left escalates violence, the right can give in and just say, please leave me alone, in which you get communism or some sort some of the things that's a good thing.
02:13:22.000 But that's what the right's been doing.
02:13:24.000 Indeed.
02:13:24.000 And so when people say Trump should go full bore, just start fucking arresting people, the left response is obvious.
02:13:32.000 And they literally did.
02:13:33.000 The moment we learned that Trump designated Antifa, or publicly, he didn't formally do it, he publicly declared them to be terrorists.
02:13:40.000 I said they're immediately gonna go online and say Trump has made it illegal to oppose fascism.
02:13:45.000 We told you this would happen.
02:13:46.000 What did we see?
02:13:48.000 All of the prominent liberal personalities one by one, like fucking retard ducks going rock, rock, rock, exactly as predicted.
02:13:55.000 They're not smart enough to be random.
02:13:57.000 But do you think 50% of the population is gonna follow that craziness?
02:14:01.000 No, uh my my my prediction yesterday was that default libs out of fear will largely move towards the right.
02:14:08.000 But the so I'll put it like this default libs are are uninitiated, they have no idea what the fuck is going on.
02:14:13.000 They believe what Jimmy Kimmel Thompson believe.
02:14:15.000 Right now they're entrenched, they're in a cult.
02:14:17.000 A good portion of them, just because they're like, I don't know, I don't care, I want to watch football, are going to just side with Trump because Trump's the power structure.
02:14:24.000 Of those that I would consider to be middle lane liberals, that is they're politically active, like the Krasensteins are a good example.
02:14:34.000 The people who follow the Krasensteens, they're not far left, but they're very pro-democrat, they watch TV, they're they're entrenched, they pay attention.
02:14:41.000 These people are going to align themselves with the far left because there's money to be made, they have an audience there, and they're not going to let Trump win.
02:14:50.000 In their heart, they're like Trump is bad, Trump is wrong.
02:14:52.000 I'm gonna oppose them.
02:14:53.000 The far left will say we got guns, join us.
02:14:55.000 They'll say okay.
02:14:56.000 I think that what's likely going to happen, the probability as of now dictates a right-wing military dictatorship of some sort uh escalating the next 20 to 30 years.
02:15:05.000 And the probability of this, I'll I will say this very, very, very, very, very low.
02:15:09.000 So as you're trying to predict 20 years out, the probability falls into single digits or less than that.
02:15:13.000 I'm just saying what we have before us as of today indicates a future in which you'll get a right-wing dictatorship of some sort.
02:15:22.000 And that's that that's that's somewhat um hyperbolic.
02:15:25.000 You will get you will you will get author authoritative right wing control.
02:15:29.000 So suppression of far-leftist bullshit, security checks.
02:15:34.000 It'll be it'll be pretty serious.
02:15:36.000 ID checks on the internet, things like that.
02:15:38.000 It won't be the apocalypse, it won't be concentration camps, it won't be people being, you know, flayed alive or anything like that.
02:15:44.000 But it'll be a security state.
02:15:46.000 The left is going to engage in insurgent violence, which emboldens the right to be able to do this, and regular people are going to let it happen.
02:15:53.000 I'm gonna say something that I know a lot of people probably don't want me to say.
02:15:58.000 I am actually going to wait 20 seconds and and um everybody subscribe to Rumble Premium if you want to keep watching, because I actually don't want to say some of this stuff publicly, but I will.
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02:16:12.000 Um I apologize for people who are gonna be upset that I'm doing it, but it's it's what I'm doing.
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