Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Judge Rules Mail In Votes ILLEGAL After Election Day, TRUMP WINNING w-Mike Benz | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen,

00:00:22.000 we just got a ruling from the Fifth Circuit Court, which, oh boy, it says that mail-in votes that are received after Election Day are in violation of federal law.

00:00:33.000 Now, the interesting thing is this was a strategic lawsuit in Mississippi that seems to have the intention of making it to the Supreme Court to shut down any mail-in votes not cast after Election Day, but received after Election Day.

00:00:47.000 You know what that means?

00:00:48.000 If this precedent had been set in 2020, Joe Biden would not have won.

00:00:53.000 And I agree with this.

00:00:55.000 The Constitution prescribes an election day.

00:00:58.000 Counting ballots after the fact makes no sense.

00:01:01.000 So this is setting the stage for something crazy.

00:01:05.000 What happens if, in 11 days, Donald Trump wins?

00:01:09.000 However, many states announce they've got mail-in votes that have yet to arrive and will come in at 3 in the morning.

00:01:16.000 Then Kamala Harris wins, but the Republicans sue, citing Fifth Circuit Court precedents in the Supreme Court, who agrees with Republicans and says Kamala Harris loses, not because she didn't have enough votes, but because the votes came in after Election Day. 0.99

00:01:29.000 Very interesting.

00:01:30.000 How about that?

00:01:31.000 We'll talk about that.

00:01:53.000 So, we got 11 days before Trump gets in, and maybe it's true.

00:01:57.000 The Uniparty establishment is intending on starting World War III before Trump can get in to prevent it. 0.93

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00:03:32.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mike Benz.

00:03:35.000 Hello.

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00:03:37.000 What do you do?

00:03:38.000 I'm Mike Benz.

00:03:39.000 I fight for freedom of speech on the Internet.

00:03:41.000 Well, simple enough.

00:03:42.000 Do you have any accolades or anything people should know about?

00:03:45.000 Have you ever, I don't know, invented something with a clock in it?

00:03:48.000 I am simply a prolific chronicler of the nefarious misdeeds of government abuse.

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00:04:14.000 Tonight I'm happy to get into all of the ways in which I've been avoiding the election cycle, the way this country is falling apart.

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00:05:57.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary, so let's get into it.

00:06:01.000 Here's a story from CNN. Trump appointed...

00:06:04.000 Okay, I just gotta preface this.

00:06:07.000 CNN's pissed.

00:06:08.000 Okay, let me tell you how they frame it.

00:06:10.000 Trump appointed appeals court judges say Mississippi is violating federal law with mail ballot deadline, but don't block it.

00:06:18.000 They can't just say, Fifth Circuit Court rules, mail-in votes violate federal law if received after Election Day.

00:06:25.000 They would have if it had gone the other way.

00:06:27.000 Yes.

00:06:27.000 If the ruling had gone the other way, it would have been Fifth Circuit ruling.

00:06:30.000 Exactly.

00:06:31.000 But because it goes against their weird sensibilities and their, I don't know, uniparty establishment bootlicking, then it has to be Trump-appointed.

00:06:38.000 They have to delegitimize it.

00:06:40.000 There you go.

00:06:40.000 Check us out.

00:06:40.000 A panel of three Donald Trump-appointed judges said Friday that Mississippi was violating federal law by counting mail ballots that arrive after Election Day, but stopped short of blocking the policy before the election in a ruling that could nevertheless impact voting-related lawsuits this fall.

00:06:55.000 The ruling from the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which is Alito's circuit, by the way.

00:07:00.000 It's a victory for, and he's based, it's a victory for the Republican National Committee and others who brought the case in Mississippi, a non-battleground state with very little mail-in voting, seeking a ruling by a far-right circuit court friendly to their arguments.

00:07:12.000 Yes, that's called jurisdiction selection or whatever?

00:07:16.000 Venue shopping.

00:07:17.000 Venue shopping, there you go.

00:07:19.000 Democrats and voting rights advocates fear that a ruling of Republicans' favor will be used to boost challenges to late arriving ballots in other states, which could make the difference if the margins are tight in key races.

00:07:29.000 Quote, Congress statutorily designated a singular day for the election of members of Congress and the appointment of presidential electors.

00:07:38.000 The Fifth Circuit Court panel said text precedent and historical practice confirm this day for the election is the day by which ballots must be both cast by voters and received by state officials.

00:07:48.000 Among the states that allow late arriving ballots are Nevada, Ohio, Virginia, as does Maryland, the site of a competitive Senate race.

00:07:55.000 Also allowing for post-election ballot receipt is California and New York, both states that could make a major difference in which party controls the House of Representatives.

00:08:03.000 So here's your scenario, ladies and gentlemen.

00:08:06.000 In 2020, Donald Trump won on Election Day.

00:08:08.000 And Donald Trump said, hey, look at that, I win.

00:08:11.000 They said, no, no, no, we're going to get ballots at three in the morning.

00:08:14.000 And they did.

00:08:16.000 And then Joe Biden won.

00:08:18.000 If this president stands, late arriving ballots don't count.

00:08:22.000 Now, the argument back then was so long as they are postmarked before on or before Election Day, they are good ballots to be counted.

00:08:31.000 This ruling says no, no.

00:08:32.000 You could have mailed that in three days ago, but if it arrives after Election Day, it does not count.

00:08:37.000 I agree.

00:08:38.000 It is the right way to do things.

00:08:39.000 If you want to vote by mail, Everybody says this.

00:08:43.000 Whenever you're mailing anything, you've got to mail it early to make sure it arrives on time.

00:08:46.000 It is not anyone else's responsibility if your vote don't make it.

00:08:48.000 We should not have vote month.

00:08:50.000 Now, what happens if, in 11 days, Donald Trump wins?

00:08:54.000 He says, hey, everybody, I win.

00:08:56.000 I'm the president.

00:08:56.000 And then they say, we've got ballots that have yet to arrive, and we're going to count them at three in the morning.

00:09:02.000 And then Republicans sue, citing Fifth Circuit Court precedent, take it to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court agrees.

00:09:09.000 Ballots that arrived after Election Day are void.

00:09:12.000 They cannot be counted.

00:09:13.000 Kamala would have won, doesn't win. 1.00

00:09:17.000 Democrats then assert, we won the election.

00:09:20.000 The only reason we're not allowed to have Kamala get inaugurated is because the Supreme Court, Trump's cronies, blocked us. 0.99

00:09:28.000 Republicans then say, no, your garbage late ballots don't count. 0.73

00:09:32.000 Election Day was the fifth, not the sixth. 0.98

00:09:34.000 That doesn't count.

00:09:34.000 We win.

00:09:35.000 Both sides then have some version where they claim legitimate authority over who actually wins.

00:09:42.000 And where does this country go from there?

00:09:44.000 I don't know, except for maybe people who bet on polymarket don't get paid out and are quite upset.

00:09:49.000 Also, it feels like when they do this, it's designed to just keep the stress on the public, right?

00:09:55.000 Like, before you at least knew that if you went to bed fairly early on election day and you woke up the next morning, you were going to know who the hell was elected.

00:10:02.000 Now you don't even have any guarantee that that's what's going to happen.

00:10:06.000 Very strange precedent, man.

00:10:07.000 Well, there's no reason for it.

00:10:08.000 You might be able to make a convincing argument because of the novel election in 2020, because of COVID, you might be able to.

00:10:16.000 I still would say it doesn't matter.

00:10:19.000 I don't think that constitutional rules should be bent just because there's some kind of emergency, because the government will just create emergencies.

00:10:27.000 And I think we all kind of agree on that, and we've seen that in the past.

00:10:31.000 That being said, if the case is the ballots have to be in by midnight, and if they had stuck to that last time, Donald Trump would be the president.

00:10:41.000 So the people that say, oh, this election was either there are people that say, oh, you can call it whatever you want, but it was a novel system being used.

00:10:51.000 It was unconstitutional.

00:10:53.000 And by that standard, Joe Biden is a totally unconstitutional president.

00:10:58.000 The thing that I'm a little confused about is it says that they're violating federal law, but they don't actually block it.

00:11:04.000 And so there's the question about whether or not this, as applied, actually has any impact on the 2024 election, unless, I guess, as Tim was saying, it gets escalated to the Supreme Court.

00:11:18.000 And if the Supreme Court ratifies the Fifth Circuit ruling here, if they then go the extra step of blocking it, but they simply keep it as is, And say it's a violation of federal law, but for whatever process reason, it won't go into effect until the next election cycle, then it may avoid this Civil War scenario that Tim's laying out.

00:11:40.000 If they haven't specified it, then I imagine the scenario that Tim lays out is...

00:11:48.000 Honestly, it's more likely than not.

00:11:51.000 Because everyone, you know, there's been multiple states that have said, oh, it's going to take us weeks to count the ballots.

00:11:57.000 It's going to take us blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:11:59.000 Was it Maricopa County?

00:11:59.000 It said 14 days.

00:12:00.000 It was multiple, multiple jurisdictions.

00:12:02.000 I don't remember exactly which ones, but it may have been Maricopa, but it was definitely like five or six or two.

00:12:08.000 Definitely three that I've heard, and I want to say up to five, that have said, we're going to take a long time to count the ballots.

00:12:14.000 We won't know.

00:12:14.000 And the media continues to push that narrative.

00:12:17.000 Hey, it's normal.

00:12:18.000 We're going to keep doing this.

00:12:20.000 Only happens in swing states, but it's completely normal.

00:12:22.000 You know, you see that.

00:12:24.000 And also, you know, it's...

00:12:27.000 Only in the United States as well.

00:12:29.000 We were talking yesterday, I think it was about Brazil, how many people are in Brazil and how fast they know the results of the election.

00:12:37.000 Unless it's literally hair's breadth close, there's no reason they can't forecast it.

00:12:43.000 And if the ballots that get in by midnight are the only ones that count, then you could probably pretty accurately predict what's going to come out.

00:12:57.000 Why anyone would want to not see this outcome is weird.

00:13:02.000 Because they want to be able to cheat.

00:13:04.000 That would be the only reason.

00:13:06.000 The same reason they don't want people to have IDs.

00:13:08.000 Whoever says this is not a good idea is assuming that there's going to be late ballots.

00:13:12.000 Late ballots are not a good thing.

00:13:14.000 Late ballots means we failed at some degree.

00:13:18.000 And we're able to, after the fact, see how many we need in order to skim.

00:13:21.000 No matter what side they come in on, if ballots are coming in late, they already know what they need to change the outcome.

00:13:26.000 So you don't want late ballots.

00:13:28.000 Well, no, they do.

00:13:30.000 But the reason is just like the reason they don't want to have IDs is because they don't want tight rules.

00:13:37.000 Tight rules are harder to get around.

00:13:40.000 Whatever the rules are, They should be tight and strict.

00:13:46.000 You don't want proof of U.S. citizenship to vote in a U.S. election.

00:13:50.000 Just this morning in Virginia, the Justice Department has forced illegal voters, non-U.S. citizens, back on the voter rolls.

00:14:03.000 The Justice Department intervened.

00:14:04.000 Glenn Youngkin, the governor, is absolutely livid over this, and rightly so.

00:14:09.000 But the Justice Department, the crooked Merrick Garland criminal mafia squad that currently occupies that building, has forced illegal voters back on the voting rolls.

00:14:23.000 Less than two weeks before the election.

00:14:24.000 So, I mean, I wouldn't overthink this.

00:14:27.000 Their job is to try to pad as much as possible in order to do a come from behind red mirage blue shift type event like they did in 2020.

00:14:37.000 That's the function of Mark Elias.

00:14:39.000 That's the function of Norm Eisen.

00:14:41.000 That's the function of the Brookings Governance Institution and the Aspen Institute Governance Institution.

00:14:48.000 This whole policy web is designed to allow the political operatives to harvest, to mail, and to do, frankly, several other things.

00:14:55.000 Well, where's the Republican apparatus?

00:14:57.000 What do they have?

00:14:58.000 Well, the problem is, is any attempt to muster a Republican apparatus will get chewed up by the Justice Department.

00:15:04.000 This is what they've been doing.

00:15:05.000 There's the 65 project to arrest, imprison, and disbar, as they did Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman.

00:15:13.000 And real quick...

00:15:13.000 The Tea Party had the IRS sent on them by the Obama administration.

00:15:20.000 Right.

00:15:21.000 And that's not even a big, powerful legal apparatus.

00:15:23.000 It was Tea Party members were getting investigated by the IRS for ridiculous reasons.

00:15:28.000 Well, look at the Georgia situation, right?

00:15:29.000 19 of Trump's allies, including Trump himself, were rolled up by the criminal justice system for an alternative electors scheme, right?

00:15:41.000 That was the exact same thing that the Democrats did in 2016.

00:15:44.000 They actually got 13 votes in the Democrat Congress to go ahead with an alternate elector scheme.

00:15:52.000 They were game doing that in 2020 with a group called the Transition Integrity Project.

00:15:55.000 But when the Republicans tried it, because they controlled the Justice Department, they simply arrested them.

00:16:00.000 They called it a civil, they called it a RICO scam when Republicans did it.

00:16:04.000 It's just like when there are protests that turn violent on the Republican side, that's called domestic terrorism and, you know, 20 year felony conspiracy charge.

00:16:14.000 But when they do it, it's good trouble.

00:16:15.000 So it all comes down to who controls the Justice Department.

00:16:18.000 Is it possible to have it so nobody controls it?

00:16:18.000 Yeah.

00:16:23.000 That it just can exist?

00:16:25.000 No, because it's people.

00:16:28.000 It's always going to be run by people.

00:16:30.000 And even if you go and say something like, oh, well, someday it's going to be AI, there's going to be someone that programs the AI. You cannot get rid of the inherent bias from human beings.

00:16:44.000 It's one of the reasons why when they talk about draining the swamp, I always kind of side-eye it because the idea is like even if you get rid of top brass in every government organization, they trained the people under them who a lot of times share the same belief systems that they do and a lot of times vote the same way or part of the same party that they do.

00:17:02.000 It's not so simple as to just find some corrupt politicians, find corrupt government officials.

00:17:09.000 It's been cycled downwards through the process of vetting, hiring and everything like that.

00:17:15.000 It's impossible to really make that change in one fell swoop.

00:17:19.000 The Blob has increasingly made, our foreign policy establishment has increasingly made prosecutions and control over justice departments in countries all over the world a linchpin of our diplomacy strategy.

00:17:32.000 Everyone right now can go to Google and look up a term called transitional justice, which is basically now a State Department doctrine that's based on as soon as one of our supported political movements wins an election, Everyone can go to journalofdemocracy

00:18:02.000 .org right now.

00:18:03.000 And if you go to the Wikipedia, sorry to cut you off, but if you go to the Wikipedia, it says transitional justice is a process which responds to human rights violations.

00:18:12.000 So automatically they're saying that this is because they're clearly the bad people.

00:18:17.000 What it's about is when the State Department or CIA-backed political movement in a particular country or region narrowly wins an election, that's usually the result of tens of or hundreds of millions of dollars of support from U.S. government-funded NGOs or U.S. government institutions, and that's expensive that's usually the result of tens of or hundreds of millions of

00:18:36.000 The easiest way is to simply knock out the other party entirely so that you can achieve democratic stability, i.e. a permanent auto win for the CIA-backed political movement there or political regime because everyone else from the opposing party is purged and in jail.

00:18:52.000 And that is what transitional justice is about.

00:18:54.000 We set up the same thing in Ukraine, by the way, when we controlled the prosecutors there as Joe Biden himself testified to the Council on Foreign Relations.

00:19:02.000 We did the same thing in Georgia.

00:19:03.000 We're doing the same thing in Poland, the same thing in Moldova.

00:19:06.000 We're doing the same thing in Chile and several other Latin American countries.

00:19:13.000 We've rolled this out worldwide.

00:19:16.000 Norm Eisen, who's the major legal hatchet man for this whole Trump operation, Get Trump, his literal bio is called Trying Trump.

00:19:27.000 He wrote a whole book on it.

00:19:28.000 He wrote 10 articles of impeachment for Trump, I think his first year in office behind the Russiagate, the Trump impeachment, the Trump trials.

00:19:37.000 He started off as a U.S. ambassador to the Czech Republic.

00:19:40.000 And one of his claims to fame there was basically suggesting, you know, who, and when a State Department ambassador suggests to a foreign government, you know, who they should prosecute, that message is received.

00:19:55.000 you're coming with the full force of the u.s federal government the humanitarian aid the civil society support the carrots and sticks that a diplomat can offer in order to purge that country's political opposition and you see them do this time and time again it works so effectively in in europe the state department teamed up with the george soros anti-corruption ngos to create this whole whirlwind news cycle so that they were stigmatized so that was easier for the justice department to roll them up

00:20:22.000 it worked so well in europe that when trump rose to power here in 2016 they simply applied the same playbook with the same networks what kind of What context are you talking about in Europe, just to clarify?

00:20:31.000 These anti-corruption probes that are set up where the State Department will back-channel with the criminal justice system there, their version of the Justice Department.

00:20:42.000 And participate in these probes to roll up the State Department's political adversaries in the region.

00:20:48.000 And there's a great article if you want to pull it up.

00:20:50.000 It's on journalofdemocracy.org, which is effectively the CIA's in-house journal.

00:20:55.000 It's the in-house journal for the National Endowment for Democracy, which was set up in 1983 by the CIA director at the time to get back the powers that the CIA had lost under the Carter administration and the Church Committee hearings of the 1970s.

00:21:08.000 And if you just look up on journalofdemocracy.org, Poland Transitional Justice or Poland Donald Tusk Stamp Out Populism, any of those keywords will get you there.

00:21:19.000 And you will see the CIA's in-house journal tell the newly elected Polish government this year, December 2023, less than a year ago, a list of names for them to throw in jail from the party that was just in power.

00:21:35.000 This is the playbook for American statecraft around the world, and that is why the driving force behind all this at home comes from that same State Department DOD CIA network.

00:21:44.000 It's a playbook.

00:21:45.000 The very first thing that comes up is, who is Javier Millet?

00:21:48.000 He's a rude, foul-mouthed, and one of the most popular politicians in the world.

00:21:53.000 Like it or not, Argentina's chainsaw-wielding president is the new face of populism. 0.91

00:21:57.000 So clearly the CIA is against him.

00:22:00.000 Populism is the State Department's new definition of terrorism.

00:22:03.000 We set up this whole apparatus to control the world, to win the 20th century.

00:22:08.000 After World War II, we set up the rules-based international order.

00:22:12.000 We create a CIA to do the plausibly deniable dirty work.

00:22:16.000 We have the State Department be the public face of it.

00:22:19.000 We have the DOD for military and paramilitary support.

00:22:22.000 And what we started to do was, you know, this whole regime change type operation overthrow governments in the name of stopping communism.

00:22:31.000 9-11 happens.

00:22:32.000 We carry that out for counterterrorism.

00:22:34.000 Then Trump happens.

00:22:35.000 We take this whole apparatus for overthrowing communist governments and for stopping terrorist insurgency groups who want to topple a government that we install in Afghanistan or Iraq, and we simply do it to duly elected, democratically elected governments in the U.S., in...

00:22:56.000 In Brazil with Bolsonaro, this is why the CIA director personally went down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro before the election because he was casting doubt on the hypothetical future election results.

00:23:09.000 We did the same thing in Italy.

00:23:10.000 That's why Matteo Salvini is being indicted.

00:23:13.000 We did the same thing in France.

00:23:15.000 That's why Marine Le Pen is being indicted.

00:23:17.000 We did the same thing with the Vox party in Spain.

00:23:19.000 That's why so many of them are getting indicted.

00:23:22.000 The same thing with the AFD party, the populist party in Germany.

00:23:27.000 That's why their party is on the precipice of being banned by the German parliament, because populism is the only thing that can stand against globalism.

00:23:36.000 And you have these international markets, you have these banks and these multinational corporations who effectively work with the political arm to staff the State Department, to staff the CIA, to staff the DOD.

00:23:48.000 They go out and do the dirty work, and then they get cushy seven-figure jobs.

00:23:52.000 As soon as they leave office, they go from making $200, $300K at DOD or CIA to making seven figures, like Mark Milley at J.P. Morgan, or like Jared Cohen at Goldman Sachs now.

00:24:03.000 Or like a lot of them.

00:24:05.000 They all move into this space because they have put favors in the favor bank for the bankers, and that's the function of the blob.

00:24:12.000 I want to ask you guys, we have this story from the Washington Examiner we brought up the other day, but we had a conversation on the Culture War podcast this morning, youtube.com slash Tim Cash.

00:24:20.000 Check it out about the fear of civil war with this upcoming election.

00:24:25.000 Fortitude Ranch, which is a network of off the grid prepper resorts, they describe it as, has issued a call to their to their members to come to these facilities on Election Day if they live in highly volatile areas.

00:24:40.000 You know, and I'd asked Ian about it.

00:24:41.000 Do you think or I'd ask the panel, do you think that this is a they're just hyping it up because it's their opportunity to market when people are freaked out?

00:24:51.000 Or are they trying to intentionally downplay it out of fear that they don't want to spark a panic by saying, quick, everybody get to the bunkers.

00:24:56.000 It's going down.

00:24:57.000 Considering the story that we just saw where the Fifth Circuit Court ruled that votes that arrive after Election Day are in violation of the law and the potential.

00:25:07.000 And I say it's a potential because I don't know what happens, that this leads to a scenario where Kamala wins, but only by ballots received the next day in the in the wee hours of the morning, much like Joe Biden did.

00:25:17.000 And then Democrats claim victory, Republicans claim victory, and then we actually end up with some kind of...

00:25:23.000 No president scenario.

00:25:25.000 I'm curious with you, Mike, here, what do you think we see, especially considering everything you know about the deep state and the intelligence apparatus, how will they respond and is there a potential for some kind of greater escalation?

00:25:36.000 Well, if you play the Jamie Raskin clip, the very influential congressman around, you know, him gloating, it doesn't matter who Trump supporters vote for.

00:25:46.000 They can vote all they like for Trump because the fact is we're going to stop it on January 6th, 2025.

00:25:52.000 We are going to simply not certify the election by invoking the 14th Amendment.

00:25:57.000 So it doesn't matter.

00:25:58.000 He can win the election.

00:26:00.000 He's not going to get inaugurated because we'll stop him on January 6th, 2025.

00:26:04.000 Now, this is very interesting because it's a direct match of the Transition Integrity Project blueprint for the 2020 election, where they simulated an ability to stop a clear...

00:26:17.000 To stop a clear Trump win by provoking a breakdown of Congress on January 6th to stop the certification of the election.

00:26:27.000 So I have the clip here.

00:26:29.000 I'm not familiar with secular or whatever.

00:26:32.000 ACLJ.org.

00:26:33.000 I just Googled it.

00:26:34.000 It's going to be up to us on January 6, 2025, to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified.

00:26:42.000 And then we need bodyguards for everybody in civil war conditions.

00:26:47.000 All because the nine justices, not all of them, but simply do not want to do their job.

00:26:54.000 What he has just said there is worse than what...

00:26:56.000 Anybody, any words that were ever said by Donald Trump at that rally?

00:27:00.000 So this is an event at something in Pro's bookstore.

00:27:05.000 I believe it was in D.C. He said that they will not certify, that on January 6, 2025, they're going to assert that Trump is ineligible under the 14th Amendment Section 3.

00:27:18.000 And block him.

00:27:18.000 You add into the mix the potential for Supreme Court disqualifying large swaths of votes that came in.

00:27:25.000 They were cast way before Election Day but arrived on November 6th.

00:27:30.000 How is the 14th Amendment?

00:27:31.000 What's on Section 3?

00:27:33.000 The text of the 14th Amendment is no state shall make or enforce any law which shall...

00:27:37.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:27:38.000 Did I say 14th?

00:27:39.000 It is 14th.

00:27:40.000 Yeah, okay, okay.

00:27:40.000 It is 14th.

00:27:42.000 If you wage an insurrection against the United States, you're ineligible for office.

00:27:45.000 That's what I think.

00:27:46.000 But nobody was convicted of that.

00:27:48.000 But listen to what he's – the way he tees it up, listen to how self-aware he is about the magnitude of this.

00:27:55.000 He says – he's insinuating Trump supporters are going to be pissed.

00:27:59.000 They're going to be rampaging Trump mobs because to their shock and horror, he – When he wins the election, we're going to stop it on January 6th.

00:28:08.000 So that's why we need this big military FBI apparatus in order to arrest them all to stop the civil war conditions that we know that we are going to provoke because we're going to rob them of the election at the 11th hour.

00:28:21.000 We are going to stop the certification of a duly elected president for democracy.

00:28:26.000 Right.

00:28:27.000 And he's saying because the Supreme Court did not rule that he's disqualified, it now falls on Congress to do it 14 days before inauguration.

00:28:35.000 You say this guy's getting marching orders from international NGOs and things?

00:28:40.000 It's a consensus-building process, and Jamie Raskin is in the dead thick of it.

00:28:46.000 They wargame this.

00:28:47.000 They do consensus building meetings.

00:28:49.000 If you follow Brookings or you follow the Atlantic Council Networks or you follow the Transition Integrity Project Networks or the nonviolent civic resistance movement networks, they've been wargaming this stuff for months.

00:28:59.000 They wargamed it for almost an entire year before the 2020 election.

00:29:04.000 It's the same group that's back again.

00:29:06.000 You can pull up the Guardian article by Rosa Brooks just a few months ago that goes over this.

00:29:10.000 So is your sense that on, say, January 20th, if Trump does win clearly in the election, is your sense that on January 20th Trump will be inaugurated or no?

00:29:20.000 Well, if he wins on November 5th, it's going to set up this scenario that we're now talking about with Jamie Raskin.

00:29:29.000 This period between November 5th and January 6th is going to be extremely intense.

00:29:34.000 If Trump wins, you are going to see—my sense is that you will see street paramilitary— Left wing slash never Trump, right even potentially.

00:29:48.000 You're going to see this sort of summer of love, summer 2020 style riot force start to break out on the streets.

00:29:57.000 The media is going to portray them as pro-democracy groups.

00:30:01.000 Who are protesting the illegitimacy of the Trump Electoral College victory.

00:30:06.000 You're going to see that.

00:30:07.000 So that's going to shut down the country. 0.78

00:30:08.000 It's going to start terrorizing people.

00:30:10.000 It's going to start preventing people from being able to communicate.

00:30:12.000 You're going to see pressure put on the social media companies.

00:30:15.000 Extreme pressure put on by the Justice Department.

00:30:18.000 Put on by the advertiser networks.

00:30:21.000 You're going to see this crisis response.

00:30:24.000 It's going to feel like this country is...

00:30:26.000 It's going to feel like the day after January 6th.

00:30:29.000 For two months, if Trump does indeed win the Electoral College, in order for them to prime the pump for their extraordinary actions on January 6th.

00:30:38.000 So they're saying that because of the January 6th insurrection, that somehow under the 14th Amendment means that he is not eligible to become president and that Congress will have to enact that?

00:30:49.000 Is that why they've spent so long over the last however many years To push the idea of insurrection in the media because for the public to fall in line with this, they have to believe because they've been duly told by the mainstream media that that is what happened.

00:31:03.000 Even though there was no prosecution for that, they'll just fall in line and believe it.

00:31:07.000 Which is part of the reason why I said that the whole going back to calling Trump Hitler in the past week or so, the point of that isn't to convince people about voting.

00:31:16.000 It's just to prime the landscape for people to feel like Trump is a danger.

00:31:21.000 And now let's read Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

00:31:49.000 But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each house, remove such disability.

00:31:52.000 The important factor there is nowhere does it say a president can't be president if they wage insurrection.

00:31:58.000 Many people argue that it says hold any office, or as an officer of the United States, but that, I believe, the legal precedent so far was that it does not include the president.

00:32:07.000 And the reason for that was, we have the 14th Amendment because of the Civil War.

00:32:11.000 And the idea was you're not going to represent a state or be in Congress if you were a part of this insurrection.

00:32:20.000 But the president was different because to get elected president would mean that the union states would have a say in whether or not you were president in the first place.

00:32:28.000 The argument is if Virginia wanted to send a senator, the union says, nope, that person waged war against us.

00:32:36.000 Get somebody else.

00:32:37.000 Now, what if someone from Virginia who was involved in the Civil War wanted to be president?

00:32:40.000 The argument is, well, OK, if New York votes for that person, that's a union state deciding.

00:32:46.000 That's why it says a Congress made by a vote of two thirds of each house remove such disability.

00:32:50.000 The reason why president was not included in this is because if union states voted for the person that is removing such disability.

00:32:58.000 so this was But none of it matters.

00:33:01.000 Tell me I'm wrong.

00:33:01.000 Say, Tim, you're wrong.

00:33:02.000 I say, okay, fine.

00:33:03.000 I guess you're right.

00:33:03.000 No one was ever convicted of any kind of insurrection or any kind of—Trump was never convicted under J6. They tried him in—they impeached him, and he was acquitted.

00:33:13.000 We're done.

00:33:14.000 It doesn't matter, though.

00:33:15.000 As Redyard Lynch said the last time he was on the show, both sides believe they are morally justified and are simply looking for plausible deniability to enact their force.

00:33:25.000 Now, personally, I think right now, if Trump wins the Electoral College, he wins.

00:33:29.000 But they've been repeatedly making the argument that the Electoral College is illegitimate and the Supreme Court is illegitimate.

00:33:34.000 Why?

00:33:35.000 Because Trump will likely get an Electoral College victory and then the Supreme Court will back him up when they challenge it.

00:33:41.000 And then they're going to claim, aha, this proves it.

00:33:43.000 It's illegitimate.

00:33:44.000 All right.

00:33:45.000 They're simultaneously opening pressure on potential Trump leaning Supreme Court justices.

00:33:51.000 You know, these ethics probes against Clarence Thomas.

00:33:53.000 They're, you know, they're opening up the lines of attack against Kavanaugh again.

00:33:57.000 They're talking about the repercussions on the court and stacking it to basically try to put a kind of conflict in the Supreme Court individual members minds that if they go against this apparatus as this gets litigated, there will be personal consequences for them.

00:34:17.000 People may think this sounds far-fetched, but Schumer himself said that if you go against the intelligence apparatus, they have nine ways to Sunday to take care of you or whatever.

00:34:29.000 I don't remember the exact quote that he had.

00:34:30.000 Six ways to Sunday.

00:34:31.000 But the point being, this isn't something that is...

00:34:36.000 A secret in Washington, even if people don't think that they would do it to the United States, or they would do it here, everyone is pretty aware that CIA works in these ways in other countries.

00:34:50.000 Like, most people are aware that CIA has had effects on a lot of other countries' elections and the governments of a lot of other countries.

00:34:57.000 And the person who's actually...

00:34:59.000 Tip of the spear for the Transition Integrity Project that I just laid out here is Rosa Brooks, who is the Undersecretary of Defense for Obama and held a CIA blue badge. 0.72

00:35:07.000 It's literally CIA, DOD, state every single time.

00:35:12.000 It's this same apparatus.

00:35:14.000 They're just using the playbook here.

00:35:16.000 And they're centered by a company called USAID or an organization.

00:35:19.000 You've talked a lot about this is like the brain of the blob.

00:35:23.000 Well, USAID isn't the brain of the blob. 0.74

00:35:25.000 USAID is just like, it's essentially a CIA front.

00:35:27.000 Yeah, it's a capacity builder for the assets.

00:35:30.000 Now, USAID, in this case, USAID, what they do a lot of the times is they will fund these so-called nonviolent civil resistance movements, which this is a technique for overthrowing a government where...

00:35:43.000 There's two ways you can overthrow a government.

00:35:45.000 One of them is a top-down military coup.

00:35:47.000 You basically bribe a sufficient quorum of the country's military brass and then they control the tanks and so they can simply topple the government through military force or threats of military force.

00:36:00.000 That began to be phased out.

00:36:02.000 It's still done from time to time.

00:36:04.000 But the main way we do this now are so-called people-powered revolutions.

00:36:08.000 They have a sort of patina of democracy to them where the State Department and USAID will capacity build.

00:36:15.000 They will run hundreds of millions of dollars to astroturf a political movement in a country.

00:36:20.000 And part of the linchpin of this are street protests that create a kind of anarcho-tyranny force on the streets that will break up meetings, that will block highways, that will block transportation, that will shut down industrial industries.

00:36:34.000 They'll do mass walkouts for the miners, for the hospital workers.

00:36:38.000 They will surround parliament buildings or occupy federal buildings.

00:36:43.000 And so...

00:36:44.000 The idea is media then reports on that as being what the people really want because they're the ones who are out on the street demanding the government and power transition to a new government to be responsive to the people because this is democracy.

00:36:58.000 Not reporting on the fact that these people are all being funded by the U.S. government.

00:37:02.000 They're being funded by USAID, funded by state, and directed through their leaders by intelligence-backed channels.

00:37:10.000 But that gets held up as democracy.

00:37:12.000 And then when the police respond to these people throwing Molotov cocktails in police cars, that gets called an authoritarian crackdown.

00:37:20.000 And so that then allows the U.S. government and its international partners to put sanctions on that government in order to economically cripple them, in order to put the people into further deprivation, where they're now even angrier at the government.

00:37:32.000 And the government has less money to pay the police or the military to contain these CIA, USAID-funded Riots on the streets, but they call it nonviolent civil resistance.

00:37:44.000 This is the same thing we saw in 2020.

00:37:47.000 This whole framing technique around calling it a protest, not a riot.

00:37:52.000 Even though everyone sees everything's on fire, but you call it mostly peaceful because that's how you salvage the...

00:38:00.000 The diplomatic norms and standards around it being a pro-democracy movement rather than an act of friggin' terrorism.

00:38:06.000 Do you think that it's being turned on the United States right now?

00:38:09.000 He's literally articulating how it is, yes.

00:38:11.000 That's what you've been talking about.

00:38:12.000 To the point where it would...

00:38:13.000 Because that makes me think it's not an American thing, this this USAID thing, because if they're willing to create a civil war in the United States with the same technique to overthrow the government, what that's it's why would our own country do that to ourselves?

00:38:27.000 Or is it controlled by literally by the Bank for International Settlements in order to stamp out populism to achieve democratic stability because no one can run against them?

00:38:29.000 settlements in order to stamp out populism to achieve democratic stability because no one can run against them.

00:38:36.000 Let's jump to this next story from The Guardian.

00:38:38.000 The Washington Post and LA Times refused to endorse a candidate.

00:38:42.000 You know what that means?

00:38:43.000 It means they endorsed Trump.

00:38:44.000 Refusal to endorse a Democrat from these papers is tantamount to endorsing Trump.

00:38:49.000 And I'll give you proof.

00:38:50.000 When the Teamsters said they would not be endorsing a candidate, Trump went, wow, it's a great honor.

00:38:54.000 They're great people.

00:38:55.000 And what do you mean it's a great honor?

00:38:57.000 They didn't endorse you, but they may as well have.

00:38:59.000 Is this been something that's been a precedent for a long time?

00:39:02.000 How long have newspapers been endorsing candidates?

00:39:04.000 Because just to me...

00:39:05.000 The Washington Post has done it since 1980.

00:39:07.000 Outside looking in, it feels like if any organization should avoid attempting to endorse any candidate, it should be the people who have been screaming about their supposed lack of bias for the last two decades.

00:39:18.000 Sure.

00:39:18.000 Who did they endorse in 1980?

00:39:20.000 No, they've been endorsing Democrats, I think, every election cycle since 1980.

00:39:24.000 So in 1980, they endorsed a Democrat?

00:39:26.000 Yeah, I believe so.

00:39:27.000 Which Democrat was it?

00:39:29.000 Someone can fact check, you know, what the whole history is.

00:39:32.000 I'm not 100% sure.

00:39:34.000 I recall seeing that they've endorsed a candidate every election cycle since 1980.

00:39:39.000 I don't know if one of those happened to be a neocon Republican.

00:39:43.000 But I do think there is actually a slight difference here between this and the Teamsters.

00:39:47.000 Because when the Teamsters...

00:39:48.000 Was it Sean O'Brien?

00:39:50.000 When he released the Twitter statement saying that they're not endorsing this time, he simultaneously released the internal polling data around how the rank and file who they would have endorsed.

00:40:02.000 And I believe it was something like 6535 that they would have endorsed Trump.

00:40:05.000 So it's very easy to say, well, listen, they wanted to endorse Trump, but they can't do it for political reasons because they don't want to piss off the Democrats.

00:40:12.000 But in this case, it's kind of the reverse because both the L.A. Times and The Washington Post rank and file wanted to endorse Kamala.

00:40:20.000 But at the last minute, the owners of the institutions stepped in and said, no, we're overriding what the staff want.

00:40:27.000 As the owner of this magazine, I am not going to allow you to put this out, making this political endorsement.

00:40:35.000 So at both times, the staff actually wanted to endorse Kamala, but were stopped by the owners.

00:40:40.000 This is, by the way, very interesting.

00:40:42.000 They did endorse Jimmy Carter in 1980.

00:40:45.000 Wow, that was sad.

00:40:46.000 So, yeah, the WAPO editor at large resigned after Bezos is rumored to have been behind the Dem-leaning outlet refusal to endorse Kamala.

00:40:53.000 The same thing happened with the LA Times.

00:40:56.000 Their staff is all in outrage. 0.99

00:40:58.000 They're banging on the tables like whiny losers, and they're quitting over this. 0.99

00:41:02.000 That's wild. 0.97

00:41:03.000 But I'll tell you, there was a post from, I think it was Dave Rubin, that he was driving in an Uber and the guy was saying he's like a liberal area.

00:41:13.000 Now I'm voting for Trump.

00:41:13.000 You'd have to be crazy to vote for Kamala.

00:41:15.000 I think when the Democrat institutions are worried about endorsing Kamala Harris, she's not likely to win.

00:41:23.000 Do you guys know who that guy is?

00:41:25.000 That WAPO at large? 1.00

00:41:27.000 Who's that?

00:41:28.000 Anyone know who Robert Kagan is?

00:41:28.000 That's Robert Kagan.

00:41:31.000 Nope.

00:41:31.000 That's Victoria Nuland's husband.

00:41:33.000 And wait, wait, and who's Victoria Nuland?

00:41:37.000 Victoria Nuland was the Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasian Affairs.

00:41:41.000 Basically the angel of death toppling country after country all over Europe, particularly Central and Eastern Europe.

00:41:51.000 She was the one who was caught on the hot mic with Jeff Pyatt, the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, when we overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014, saying, F the EU.

00:42:01.000 We're going to install this new president, Yatsenyuk.

00:42:03.000 It doesn't matter what the Ukrainians want. 0.95

00:42:05.000 It doesn't matter what the EU want.

00:42:06.000 We get to pick the puppet president here.

00:42:08.000 Victoria Nuland was personally handing out water bottles and cookies to the rioters that the State Department had pumped $5 billion into in order to orchestrate those rental riots.

00:42:21.000 She's basically the color revolution queen of the Europe desk. 0.74

00:42:26.000 She's now on the board.

00:42:27.000 Since she left the State Department, she's now moved over to be a board member at the National Endowment for Democracy, which we were just talking about, the CIA cutout, which was created effectively by the CIA director in 1983.

00:42:41.000 But here's another great data point on this random WAPO editor at large who they omit is actually Victoria Newland's husband.

00:42:49.000 If you guys want to read a great quote, because I talk a lot about the blob.

00:42:52.000 I've talked, you know, I said it earlier in our conversation here.

00:42:56.000 It means the U.S. foreign policy establishment and its Department of Dirty Tricks.

00:42:59.000 If you go to Google right now and you type in Robert Kagan in the phrase, love the blob from Brookings the week before the 2020 election.

00:43:09.000 Respect the blob, we'll get there as well.

00:43:12.000 Respect the blob?

00:43:13.000 What is this?

00:43:14.000 Yes, this is it.

00:43:15.000 So, Robert Kagan, K-A-G-A-N. I think I have your tweet.

00:43:15.000 What am I looking for?

00:43:20.000 Yeah, that'll do it too.

00:43:21.000 There you go.

00:43:22.000 Respect the blob, love the blob, learn from the blob.

00:43:24.000 So, you'll see there the first image is, you know, by the way, this is, what a love story, right?

00:43:30.000 Victoria Newland and Robert Kagan fell in love talking about democracy and the role of American world on their first date.

00:43:35.000 And you understand when they say democracy, what they actually mean is totalitarianism.

00:43:39.000 Yes.

00:43:39.000 It means the hour in our democracy.

00:43:42.000 At the very least, authoritarianism.

00:43:44.000 If you're politically disengaged, you might be able to fly under the radar.

00:43:47.000 I have a question for you.

00:43:49.000 So who at WAPO ends up making the final decision on whether they endorse or not?

00:43:53.000 Okay, so Bezos and, like, Amazon and Blue Origin gave money to Kamala Harris, right?

00:43:53.000 Jeff Bezos.

00:43:59.000 At least if I remember correctly, gave a bunch of money to Kamala Harris, which means his proto-endorsement for them.

00:44:04.000 Why would he avoid that from the newspaper but give money?

00:44:07.000 Giving money might be just a...

00:44:09.000 I mean, if you've got a lot of money...

00:44:10.000 I mean, I understand the point of the...

00:44:11.000 What I'm saying is if you've got a lot of money, you give money to everybody.

00:44:14.000 So that way you have favors, or at least can hopefully get favors, but...

00:44:18.000 Remember, Amazon is a major, major, major military contractor.

00:44:23.000 They have a $10 billion contract, I believe, with the NSA alone.

00:44:27.000 They also, I think, provide Amazon Cloud or Amazon...

00:44:32.000 I think it's their Cloud contract with the CIA. There's so many military sort of intelligent statecraft connective tissue between the Bezos Empire and the...

00:44:46.000 The blob, the military defense statecraft apparatus, that you have to make political donations in order to—I mean, it's a tacit pay-to-play.

00:44:56.000 And I think in this case, Bezos has felt burned by the Kamala—the whole sort of Biden-Harris— In fact, Zuckerberg feels the same way.

00:45:10.000 You've noticed Sergey Brin and Larry Page from Google have been very silent this election.

00:45:14.000 A lot of the people, they're milking them.

00:45:16.000 Google went all out for Biden-Harris, and their reward was, you know, the Justice Department is now breaking them up.

00:45:25.000 Zuckerberg went all out for Biden-Harris.

00:45:27.000 The reward is that they got coerced and shaken down on censorship, and then they were left high and dry by the Biden State Department when it came to the EU Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act.

00:45:43.000 Just so you know, I'm not making this term up, the blob.

00:45:45.000 This is literally how they refer to themselves.

00:45:48.000 That term is not my term.

00:45:49.000 It was coined by Ben Rhodes, the Deputy National Security Advisor for the Obama Administration, because of the Obama White House's frustration that this force within Washington was more powerful than the Obama White House.

00:46:01.000 So they called it the blob.

00:46:03.000 Is that because it just consumes and grows and consumes and grows?

00:46:06.000 Yes, it's this sort of amorphous, shape-shifting, alien, indestructible monster.

00:46:12.000 When you talk about the deep state, this is the deep state.

00:46:14.000 Yes.

00:46:15.000 This is purely the deep state.

00:46:16.000 Yes, that was the Obama term for the deep state.

00:46:19.000 The blob.

00:46:20.000 And so this was one week before the 2020 election.

00:46:23.000 Brookings, by the way, is the number one ranked think tank.

00:46:26.000 And think tank is a very misleading term.

00:46:27.000 It is an influence.

00:46:28.000 This is policy thought leadership.

00:46:31.000 When Raytheon or Boeing or BlackRock or JP Morgan wants a policy in government, they sponsor the so-called think tanks to do it, and then everyone gets their cushy sinecure there as a career path.

00:46:43.000 So Brookings is the number one top dog in town for that.

00:46:46.000 And one week before the 2020 election, there was a list of 20 policy experts, their advice to the next incoming president.

00:46:54.000 And everyone did pages or paragraphs.

00:46:57.000 Robert Kagan's was very simple.

00:46:59.000 Respect the blob.

00:47:00.000 Learn from the blob.

00:47:02.000 Love the blob.

00:47:04.000 Basically saying don't make the mistake that Obama did towards the end of his term trying to go up against it.

00:47:09.000 Don't make the mistake that Trump did trying to do radical reform to it.

00:47:13.000 Simply subsume yourself into it.

00:47:16.000 Let them do whatever they want and you'll have nothing but you'll be happy.

00:47:22.000 Remember when I said politics was depressing?

00:47:25.000 It's good to know this stuff.

00:47:26.000 Look, he just told you.

00:47:27.000 All you gotta do is...

00:47:28.000 Look, Brett, let me tell you.

00:47:29.000 There's a Cinnabon.

00:47:30.000 You know, you go to the mall or whatever.

00:47:32.000 You get...

00:47:33.000 I don't go to a lot of malls.

00:47:34.000 You get one big Cinnabon.

00:47:35.000 You ask for extra icing.

00:47:37.000 And you don't gotta think nothing about no blob.

00:47:38.000 So we've been...

00:47:39.000 You just gotta eat your cinnamon.

00:47:40.000 Ian?

00:47:41.000 We got ice cream downstairs.

00:47:43.000 Stop talking politics.

00:47:43.000 I'm getting hungry.

00:47:44.000 We've been blobbed up for 70 years, it sounds like.

00:47:47.000 And we've all had cushy lives, for the most part.

00:47:49.000 We've had wonderful lives.

00:47:51.000 And that...

00:47:53.000 Is it possible that this is the least worst governance on Earth?

00:47:57.000 Like, the American life in the 90s and 2000s has been spectacular for all of us for opportunity.

00:48:02.000 Relative to what?

00:48:02.000 Relative to the rest of the planet, pretty much.

00:48:05.000 They haven't been operating in the United States like they are now for forever.

00:48:10.000 Like, there was a time when they had less effect on internal United States.

00:48:16.000 Like you said, the rise of populism is a big part of that.

00:48:19.000 This...

00:48:20.000 This golden age is the good time that makes weak men that leads to a fourth turning.

00:48:25.000 It's like all this money printing.

00:48:26.000 We don't want periods of young Americans sitting around doing nothing and getting fat.

00:48:33.000 We want a moderate degree of challenge and triumph and both.

00:48:39.000 So what did we get?

00:48:41.000 It is true that our generation – I don't think it's fair to say we or everyone because there's certainly a lot of people in this country who have had hard times and been homeless and some people are drug addicted.

00:48:48.000 But largely conflict-free for the Gen Xer and the millennials having to deal with relatively little – I say relatively little because, of course, we did have Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:48:57.000 We had 9-11.

00:48:59.000 But now – After the 90s, 90s were great, things are starting to get gradually worse, and it is because we have a generation, millennials largely, who, wow, don't know how to work hard and accomplish this.

00:49:12.000 So did the blob keep the American populace in like a glass cage and just kind of keep them soft for the last 20 years, and now they're getting prepared to turn something in on them?

00:49:24.000 Well, it goes back before this.

00:49:26.000 I mean, the fact is, is conservatives never experienced this before, but liberals did.

00:49:31.000 I mean, certainly the populist left was being persecuted by the blob from the 1950s through the 1970s.

00:49:39.000 This is what gave rise to the church committee hearings.

00:49:41.000 This is what gave rise to Jimmy Carter in his Halloween massacre, laying off 30 percent of the CIA in a single day, slashing their budget.

00:49:50.000 That's what resulted in Ronald Reagan resurrecting them through the National Endowment for Democracy in this new pro-democracy public program that has supplanted much of the old work the CIA did.

00:50:01.000 But this was there.

00:50:03.000 It's happening to the populist right now.

00:50:07.000 And it's never happened to the right before in terms of the blob targeting it because the right was always the party of war and big business because you had these – when we created this in 1947, 1948.

00:50:26.000 Democrats always had the media, the universities, you know, academia, culture, movies, Hollywood, unions.

00:50:37.000 The only counterweight to that on the Republican side is that the Republicans had the military, the energy companies, you know, they had the military, the oil companies, and they had the Chamber of Commerce, the corporations.

00:50:51.000 The corporations were Republican because Republicans were low taxes, free markets, free enterprise.

00:50:58.000 And so the blob served in large part, not exclusively, but in large part, the sort of Republican side of that equation in the This was the 20th century how we built our empire.

00:51:15.000 Marxist or communist or communist sympathizing countries would systematically have their governments overthrown so that we could privatize their industry and multinational corporations who were Republican leaning would get export markets for all their goods and services, would be able to extract the natural resources of an oil company, would be able to extract the natural resources of an oil company, a gas company, a copper, aluminum, agriculture, you

00:51:37.000 And so what the CIA and DOD were doing in the scandals from the 50s to the 70s is they were trying to stop the Democrat Party, the populist left side of it.

00:51:49.000 The limousine liberal class was cozy with the right wing chamber of commerce class, but there was a civil war on the left between the limousine liberal, basically, you know, hedge fund and Wall Street types and the sort of new left identitarian groups, the ones who were hedge fund and Wall Street types and the sort of new left identitarian groups, the ones who were against NATO overthrowing governments

00:52:14.000 And so what the CIA did then is it was targeting that that populist side of the left in order to bring the Democrat Party into the.

00:52:24.000 Into unison, so that we're back to Coke and Pepsi.

00:52:26.000 And so this is how you add things like Operation Chaos.

00:52:29.000 Yes, they named it that, just like they named it Fast and Furious and Crossfire Hurricane.

00:52:36.000 But Operation Chaos, for example, you had the CIA bribing student groups on college campuses, paying the National Students Association in order to...

00:52:49.000 Stop people from believing ideologically in populist left and bring them into a sort of limousine liberal mentality.

00:52:57.000 You had them working with the unions, you had them infiltrating the music groups, and all of this was designed to stop the populist left.

00:53:03.000 And the reaction to that was the Church Committee hearings in 1975 and 1976 were Where you had all these Democrats who were in power in Congress and they exposed a huge amount of scandals there.

00:53:15.000 The heart attack gun that Frank Church held up, where the CIA was assassinating people like Lumumba in Congo and Allende and Chile.

00:53:26.000 That's what gave us the House Intelligence Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee.

00:53:30.000 There was no oversight of the CIA until enough Democrats got pissed that they didn't have control of their own party because the CIA was overthrowing it.

00:53:37.000 But it didn't hit Republicans until 2016, and it's unclear if there's a way to...

00:53:44.000 It seems to be harder now on us than it was, frankly, on much to the left.

00:53:48.000 Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial.

00:53:51.000 Undecided voters lean Trump after suffering from Hitler fatigue.

00:53:56.000 Yep, I get it.

00:53:57.000 I think part of the reason why I'm being pushed towards Trump so strongly is I find the Democrats on the left keep going straight to Hitler all the time with everything.

00:54:04.000 So in the same lifetime now, when people go to movies, they talk about superhero fatigue.

00:54:09.000 So we now have superhero fatigue and Hitler fatigue at the same time. 0.76

00:54:13.000 When Kamala Harris came out and said Donald Trump said he wanted generals like Hitler, I tweeted, this is going to boost Trump in the polls.

00:54:19.000 Because we're at the point now where a lot of moderates are just like, oh, you know what?

00:54:23.000 Just for that, I'm voting for Trump. 1.00

00:54:25.000 I am so sick of that stupid garbage. 1.00

00:54:28.000 The problem is this movie's boring. 1.00

00:54:31.000 This is supposed to be a Transformers sequel where it's like, okay, we've got all these crazy Trump scandals.

00:54:36.000 Grab them by the, you know, they were doing the Trump-Hitler stuff in 2015. 0.56

00:54:42.000 2015, they were saying he's got quotes of Mein Kampf on his dresser and some ex-girlfriend 30 years ago said Not only this, the quote about wanting generals was published in 2022.

00:54:53.000 So The Atlantic publishes a story acting like it's new, but it came out years ago, and it was debunked.

00:54:59.000 They've got an anonymous source who claims it happened, and then two on-the-record sources saying it didn't happen.

00:55:04.000 So by any journalistic standards, it did not happen.

00:55:07.000 When they rolled it out, they said, and there's an audio, it hasn't been published yet, but there's an audio, the same thing they said about Trump saying the N-word in an elevator, you know, one day.

00:55:16.000 The whole thing.

00:55:17.000 The elevator thing is funny.

00:55:19.000 You know the Huffington Post elevator story, right?

00:55:21.000 I always got to pull this one up.

00:55:23.000 Let's see.

00:55:24.000 Huffington Post.

00:55:25.000 What do they call it?

00:55:26.000 White Whale Trump Elevator X.com.

00:55:30.000 This is one of the greatest tweets ever in breaking down what the corporate press is.

00:55:35.000 And it is this.

00:55:36.000 A tape might exist of Trump doing something in an elevator, though exactly where that somewhere is and what that something might be.

00:55:44.000 No one in media can say that's because no one in media seems to have seen the tape or is even confident that it exists.

00:55:51.000 OK, so.

00:55:52.000 This was 2018 Huffington Post saying somewhere at some point Trump may have done something and someone may have recorded it.

00:55:59.000 We don't know what he may have done, where it might have been, who might have recorded it, and no one's ever seen any evidence of this happening. 0.93

00:56:04.000 Holy crap. 0.89

00:56:05.000 14th Amendment! 0.99

00:56:05.000 That man can't hold office! 0.99

00:56:07.000 Insane.

00:56:08.000 He may have done something in an elevator!

00:56:11.000 The only noun available, the only information is that Trump at some point went in an elevator.

00:56:17.000 That's their story.

00:56:18.000 This is what they've been doing non-stop since 2015. 0.59

00:56:23.000 Holy crap, it's been nearly 10 years.

00:56:26.000 That's why it works so well, right? 0.97

00:56:26.000 10 years! 0.97

00:56:28.000 No, what I'm saying, what it works on is that the average person who just would have been undecided but doesn't really like the guy, they're left with the negative impression because all they're hit with daily is negative stories.

00:56:40.000 No, this is the point.

00:56:41.000 It's fatigue.

00:56:42.000 I can't.

00:56:43.000 I think part of the reason why I'm being pushed towards Trump so strongly is that I find that the Democrats in the left...

00:56:50.000 Just keep going straight to Hitler all of the time with everything. 0.92

00:56:55.000 And if it's not the left pushing Hitler, it's the right pushing Stalin. 0.61

00:56:59.000 So it's like we're fighting World War II every single day for every single election.

00:57:04.000 So it's so exhausting.

00:57:07.000 I think it just detracts from – it pushes me away from their position.

00:57:11.000 And it's so hyperbolic that it makes it impossible to have good discussions.

00:57:16.000 And I think it ruins the discourse.

00:57:19.000 Does anybody think it's valuable or something you want to hear from the vice president?

00:57:25.000 They're all saying no.

00:57:26.000 Every single person is shaking their head no.

00:57:29.000 Anybody?

00:57:30.000 Nope.

00:57:32.000 They all just shook their heads no.

00:57:34.000 Nobody wants to hear this.

00:57:36.000 All they're doing is pushing Hitler. 0.72

00:57:38.000 And if it's not the left pushing Hitler, it's the right pushing Stalin. 0.61

00:57:42.000 I mean, the right's not really pushing Stalin, but whatever.

00:57:44.000 Well, I mean, they say communism in general.

00:57:47.000 And that's also different because when they talk about the left doing it, they're talking about not just politicians, but the mainstream press, which is able to signal boost this far greater than right-wing media, which is confined to smaller networks, Fox, I guess.

00:58:00.000 But also a lot of it's going on on X for right-wing politics, whereas the left is more mainstream.

00:58:05.000 I identify with this so strongly.

00:58:08.000 It's funny.

00:58:08.000 I wonder if they've been listening to me talk and they're like, oh yeah, and Ian's got Hitler fatigue.

00:58:12.000 I'm just so tired.

00:58:13.000 That's what it is.

00:58:14.000 Like the hate, the scare you tactic is just done, man.

00:58:18.000 And I noticed this last one last week.

00:58:20.000 I just didn't, this one I just didn't feel.

00:58:22.000 I was like, oh.

00:58:24.000 Now I'm getting resilient.

00:58:27.000 And they used Jeffrey Goldberg from The Atlantic, the guy who lied us into the Iraq War on faking weapons of mass destruction.

00:58:39.000 This is the guy that they roll out for this? 0.96

00:58:41.000 It's ridiculous.

00:58:42.000 Anytime I see, whether it be Bill Kristol or any of the cohorts, I'm just like, I can't believe these guys are actually allowed to speak in public. 0.85

00:58:54.000 But this is what they do.

00:58:55.000 This is an intelligence network.

00:58:57.000 Anne Applebaum is the marquee staff writer over there at The Atlantic.

00:59:01.000 She's also a board member on the National Endowment for Democracy, the CIA cutout.

00:59:05.000 She was busted.

00:59:06.000 name appears in the UK inner cluster cell of the Integrity Initiative, which is this big British intelligence op to start censoring the internet in 2015, where they told in the instruction manuals to be helpfully uninformative about sources of funding for the organization as they were recruiting into their, quote, inner where they told in the instruction manuals to be helpfully uninformative about sources of funding for the organization as they were recruiting into their, quote, inner cluster cell, high-ranking members of a country's military journalism class, regulators, captains of industry, in

00:59:38.000 And then it was busted when all these documents leaked, and so it shut down in disgrace.

00:59:42.000 And lo and behold, Ann Applebaum's name is in the UK inner cluster cell that you specify which documents are referring to.

00:59:47.000 Yes, the Integrity Initiative leaks.

00:59:49.000 It was a seven-part leak, came out in like 2018, 2018, 2019.

00:59:54.000 You've got to be a big fan of the United States.

00:59:54.000 You can literally run a search on my handle right now for Ann Applebaum or for Integrity Initiative.

00:59:59.000 And I have a whole, I don't know, multi-million view thread going through all the major receipts where her network's implicated.

01:00:07.000 You know, you mentioned NATO, and I do feel like this blob is, I guess, the liberal economic order.

01:00:12.000 This is what it's turned into.

01:00:13.000 And I've been thinking it's a bit of a zoom out from inside the blob where we are to BRICS. And we can stay focused on this, too, but I want to know, is BRICS like another blob?

01:00:23.000 And if so, BRICS is Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.

01:00:29.000 It's another economic order that's been growing over the last decade.

01:00:33.000 I don't know how long it's been around, but...

01:00:35.000 Is it another blob?

01:00:36.000 And if so, and if not, how do you see these two organizations interacting, the blob and the BRICS? Yeah, it's a China-led. 0.91

01:00:44.000 Every country has at least a mini blob, right?

01:00:48.000 I mean, every country has a version of a State Department.

01:00:51.000 It's usually called a Ministry of Foreign Affairs, MFA. In the UK, it's the UK Foreign Office.

01:00:56.000 But essentially, this is how you participate in the world around you.

01:01:01.000 No country is an island.

01:01:02.000 You can't even make a pencil in the United States without getting the erasers from gum trees in Malaysia and graphite from mines in South America.

01:01:10.000 America.

01:01:11.000 You need to interact in the world in order to have goods and services.

01:01:15.000 The State Department, for example, is the first thing we set up in the U.S. government.

01:01:19.000 In 1789, we formed only three government agencies, the State Department, the Department of War, which is now the Department of Defense, and the U.S. Treasury.

01:01:29.000 I mean, it's your founding government agency.

01:01:32.000 And so the moment you have that, You need an apparatus to get your way in the world with other countries.

01:01:40.000 And so the intelligence services are folded into it.

01:01:43.000 The military coordinates with it.

01:01:45.000 And so everyone seeks to influence world events.

01:01:48.000 And so you need a blob to do that.

01:01:50.000 You need a foreign-facing operations corps who is able to exert leverage, who is able to do intelligence, who is able to run operations.

01:01:59.000 But China does that mostly through economic soft power, through what is sometimes called debt trap diplomacy, but oftentimes it's just simply trade.

01:02:12.000 Europe, for example, now does more trade with China than with the U.S. They overtook them, I believe, in 2020.

01:02:19.000 China has gotten huge influence over Africa through building their ports, building their roads, building their public health, building their infrastructure.

01:02:29.000 And in return, the African governments vote their way in multilateral institutions, vote their way in the UN. It's a favors-to-favors relationship. 0.69

01:02:38.000 Now, the U.S. dollar has been one of the main mechanisms for U.S. economic soft power projection, a way to get influence over foreign governments because they are dependent on the U.S. dollar.

01:02:50.000 Everything's transacted that way.

01:02:52.000 Dollar supremacy has been one of the ways that we have led the world order.

01:02:58.000 As China has risen economically and China has developed partners all around the world in Brexit nations and beyond, They are competing now against the dollar to dislodge it as the sort of economic currency primacy coin of the realm.

01:03:18.000 We've seen Saudi Arabia, for example, signal it's not going to renew the petrodollar and that it's going to use a basket of currencies that may be led by the Chinese renminbi.

01:03:26.000 I do think it's interesting that news just today broke that Brazil just blocked Venezuela from joining BRICS, which I find very interesting because the State Department worked assiduously to rig the Brazilian election, to censor every Bolsonaro supporter on every social media platform, plus all the encrypted chat apps, ran this whole operation.

01:03:48.000 The State Department backchannel with Taiwan in order to get electronic voting machines into Brazil against the will of the Brazilian prime minister.

01:03:57.000 The Defense Department, Lloyd Austin, swooped down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro.

01:04:01.000 The CIA Director, Bill Burns, personally flew down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro.

01:04:05.000 The State Department diverted semiconductor chips meant for the U.S. just to get more electronic voting machines into Brazil, even though the government of Brazil didn't want it.

01:04:18.000 And then, so Lula's installed.

01:04:20.000 By the way, Lula was named Man of the Year by the union arm of the National Endowment for Democracy, the CI, so make of that what you will.

01:04:27.000 And then Lula comes in just today and is seen as backstabbing Venezuela.

01:04:33.000 A lot of people thought that this would go through with Venezuela being joined with BRICS because everyone accused Lula of being a communist and Maduro is a communist in Venezuela.

01:04:45.000 But at the 11th hour, Lula backstabs Maduro and says, actually, you're not going to be allowed in BRICS. I wonder if the State Department called in favors to their little puppet in Brazil, Lula, and in exchange for basically getting into power and helping him consolidate power, He, you know, takes out one of their adversary states whose government the State Department is trying to overthrow.

01:05:08.000 You conceive that Brazil will leave BRICS then?

01:05:11.000 No, I think that...

01:05:13.000 BRICS is not... 0.71

01:05:14.000 It's not fully formed enough.

01:05:17.000 It's not going to be a threat until it's a little bit more mature than it is currently now.

01:05:24.000 And there's only so much leverage that the US has against China.

01:05:28.000 The fact is, as a matter of gross, China probably does have a larger economy than us at this point, just as a matter of gross on that. 0.81

01:05:39.000 So there's only so much leverage that we can exert.

01:05:43.000 We can't get our way the way we used to 30 years ago.

01:05:46.000 The world is not unipolar.

01:05:48.000 Again, Most countries do more trade with China, so the Chinese Ministry of Affairs has a larger pull on those countries than the US. I ran into that at State when I was at the International Telecommunications Union at State Department Cyber.

01:06:03.000 All 40 countries or so in the African Union systematically vote with China for what they want on telecom, and there's almost nothing we can do to convince them, because how do you argue against the fact that China is their economic lifeline?

01:06:16.000 All you can do at that point is either bribe them with more money and we're spread too thin with all of our other operations around the world or threaten them.

01:06:24.000 And there's only so much you can threaten them before they turn even more to China to offset those threats.

01:06:29.000 Let's jump to the next big global news.

01:06:32.000 Israel has begun its retaliatory strikes on Iran, sources say.

01:06:37.000 We actually have the statement from Iran now.

01:06:40.000 In response to months of continuous attacks from the regime in Iran against the state of Israel, right now the Israel Defense Forces is conducting precise strikes on military targets in Iran.

01:06:56.000 The regime in Iran and its proxies in the region have been relentlessly attacking Israel since October 7th on seven fronts, including direct attacks from Iranian soil.

01:07:09.000 Like every other sovereign country in the world, the State of Israel has the right and the duty to respond.

01:07:17.000 Our defensive and offensive capabilities are fully mobilized.

01:07:23.000 We will do whatever necessary to defend the state of Israel and the people of Israel.

01:07:30.000 Do you think that when they recorded that, they all looked at it and said, this is a good speech?

01:07:36.000 And intentionally were like, yeah, I like the way he said it, because I feel like it was very uninspired and weak. 0.92

01:07:42.000 And I'm not trying to be a dick. 0.65

01:07:43.000 I'm genuinely asking. 0.99

01:07:44.000 I wonder if Israel was like, we don't want someone who's strong, angry, smoking a cigarette saying, we're going to bomb you.

01:07:50.000 Maybe they wanted a guy who looks a little more less aggressive and intimidating, considering the fact that there is widespread war in the region. 0.97

01:07:59.000 I don't think Mossad and the IDF are stupid when it comes to PR. I think they're very good at relations. 0.86

01:08:06.000 The metaphor is they are being attacked.

01:08:08.000 They are the defenders in this.

01:08:09.000 He doesn't seem big and aggressive.

01:08:11.000 He does seem like a smaller guy.

01:08:12.000 He's calm and mild-mannered and we will respond.

01:08:15.000 It's very timid.

01:08:17.000 Coming across as very timid.

01:08:18.000 I wonder if that's intentional.

01:08:19.000 Yeah, I think it's, you know, trying to be diplomatic, understated, somewhat vague about the extent of it, but trying to – I mean, this is standard statecraft.

01:08:31.000 I mean, if you listen to a State Department, you know, presser, it has a very similar tone, which is that it's sort of short, concise to the point.

01:08:40.000 There's – you don't give, you know, a five, ten-minute soliloquy on it because everything you say, it's almost like when you – It's almost like when you are at a deposition, you try to make your answers as short and tight as possible so that there's nothing to poke at.

01:08:56.000 Well, so the news we have here is that several explosions were heard in Tehran on Saturday morning, local time.

01:09:01.000 And so I guess, I mean, this could lead to very serious escalation.

01:09:07.000 I mean, we're looking at escalation, but I'm wondering if this will put Trump in a position where if he wins, there will be a war that's already begun, something he can't stop.

01:09:18.000 I did mention, I asked before the show if this is like they're doing this in Israel because there's no leadership in the United States.

01:09:25.000 Hyperbolically, Biden is very weak as a leader, you know, unfortunately.

01:09:30.000 And now they're just taking the initiative.

01:09:32.000 And it does seem like that.

01:09:35.000 And they're going to put the situation in their court if they can.

01:09:38.000 I don't know, but that's sure what it seems like.

01:09:40.000 I mean, everyone knew this was coming because of the attacks on Israel that happened, what is it, two weeks ago, a week and a half ago or something like that.

01:09:47.000 I think it was pretty clear.

01:09:49.000 Israel was pretty open about the fact that they were going to retaliate as soon as there were missiles shot from Iran.

01:09:57.000 I think they were actually landing in Israel.

01:10:01.000 So I don't know that...

01:10:03.000 I don't think it's a surprise at all.

01:10:05.000 I was just surprised that it took this long.

01:10:07.000 Well, it literally leaked like three days ago that these highly classified documents of the Israeli intended attack plan against Iran leaked.

01:10:17.000 It was a huge international incident, actually, because it's unclear who leaked it.

01:10:22.000 There are allegations around some of these sort of Iranian-adjacent members of the National Security Council.

01:10:30.000 We're in charge of the intelligence portfolio that may have leaked this in order to stop this from happening.

01:10:40.000 But to Tim's question about, you know, how Trump, how a change in government here will impact the course of events there, I do think that much of what we're seeing right now with the extent of the Israeli military excursions I do think that much of what we're seeing right now with the extent of the Israeli military excursions into Lebanon and into Gaza and into Iran are a function of

01:11:10.000 Which is what really broke apart so much of the of the consistency between Israeli foreign policy and U.S. foreign policy.

01:11:20.000 When NATO had this big plan to open up Iran's oil and gas, because after the U.S., Iran sits on, I think, the world's second largest reserves of oil and third largest reserves of gas.

01:11:33.000 maybe third and fourth, but it's either second, third and third and fourth.

01:11:36.000 Basically, one of the largest oil and gas centers in the entire world.

01:11:40.000 But the whole thing has been under sanctions for decades, effectively.

01:11:44.000 But under the Obama administration, NATO energy companies began to see an opportunity that if they were to remove the sanctions on Iran and partner with the Iranian government, there would be trillions of dollars in windfall profits if they could simply take that oil and gas, and they would get a cut of it.

01:12:04.000 Iran would sell it on the open market to the world, and they would get rich. 0.95

01:12:08.000 It would be like if an asteroid came to Earth and it contained the galaxy's largest concentration of gold.

01:12:17.000 How many gold companies would rush to that?

01:12:19.000 If you remove the sanctions, it's like that all opens up.

01:12:22.000 So that was what the Iran deal was in 2015.

01:12:24.000 And this is what created this giant rift between Israel and the Obama administration.

01:12:29.000 Trump's first act in office was getting out of that Iran deal.

01:12:34.000 That placated the Israeli side of that, and it greatly angered the NATO side of this.

01:12:40.000 This was a huge, huge issue.

01:12:42.000 And if you remember, our current CIA director, Bill Burns, is the guy who personally negotiated the Iran deal for the Obama administration.

01:12:49.000 Because this is a major, effectively, over the course of a decade, a multi-trillion dollar windfall to whoever can open that up.

01:12:57.000 The problem is the Israeli government sees that as a massive security threat to Israel.

01:13:02.000 And time is not on their side under continuation of a Biden-Harris foreign policy on Iran styled after Obama in 2008 to 2016.

01:13:12.000 Because if Iran is allowed to operate, to basically sell its oil and gas on the open market and make hundreds of billions of dollars from that, they will 100x their economy.

01:13:25.000 And the idea then is that they would be able to pump up their military proxies, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and militarily overwhelm Israel.

01:13:35.000 And so I think a lot of what we're seeing right now is part of this proxy war between Israel and NATO around the economics of Iran.

01:13:44.000 And I think that they're hoping for a change in government that will put sanctions back on Iran.

01:13:52.000 Right now, Trump stopped China, for example, from getting around those sanctions.

01:13:57.000 He threatened China that they were not allowed to trade with Iran on oil and gas.

01:14:01.000 Just two months.

01:14:03.000 And you can look this up.

01:14:04.000 Fact check me on this.

01:14:05.000 Type in China-Iran $400 billion, and you will see the $400 billion deal that was signed.

01:14:11.000 $400 billion from China to Iran in March 2021, just two months into office.

01:14:18.000 Something China had been waiting the four years of the Trump administration to do.

01:14:22.000 in order to have China pump up Iran's economy and get all the oil and gas from there.

01:14:29.000 $280 billion for developing Iran's oil, gas, and petrochemical industries.

01:14:33.000 $120 billion for upgrading Iran's transportation and manufacturing infrastructure.

01:14:37.000 25-year cooperation plan signed in 2021 as a comprehensive agreement between the two nations.

01:14:42.000 The program outlines China's investment of $400 billion in Iran over the next 25 years in exchange for a steady supply of oil to fuel China's growing economy.

01:14:50.000 That's just China. 0.94

01:14:51.000 Now imagine if the sanctions are lifted and you have the U.S., Germany, the United Kingdom, France.

01:14:59.000 And first of all, that also massively threatens Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia's market share goes way down because they have to compete on equal par with Iran globally. 0.62

01:15:10.000 The price of oil plummets because of the glut of supply on the market.

01:15:14.000 This was the basis of the Abraham Accords, is that Israel and Saudi Arabia were drawn into this alliance, Israel on security grounds around the Iran deal, Saudi Arabia on economic grounds because of the Iran deal.

01:15:26.000 laid the groundwork for effectively that new peace in the region.

01:15:29.000 And it came obviously at the expense of the Iranian economy.

01:15:33.000 But you have this larger proxy war playing out around that.

01:15:37.000 And I do think that this drastic military action is because Israel sees it needs to make a time sensitive military move on this, because they have been they have felt existentially threatened by the Biden foreign policy.

01:15:49.000 So they think that so the Biden foreign policy has been to open up the sanctions again to continue Obama's plan to allow Iran to sell its oil Did he do that during his four years?

01:15:59.000 He did not because I think of how much they've been attempting to do this.

01:16:05.000 It's one of these—and mind you, Obama did not in his first term either.

01:16:09.000 He didn't do it until the second half of his term because there is political blowback from doing that.

01:16:15.000 There is a very large, influential Iran hawk fascism.

01:16:20.000 Faction both in the Republican Party and also in the Democrat Party.

01:16:25.000 And so it does come at a cost of political capital, but it's a huge boon to other sets of donors who would make multi-billion dollar profits from doing so.

01:16:34.000 And so there is this tension where you want to time that political action to where there's nothing they can really do to you at the end.

01:16:42.000 It's almost like a pardon list.

01:16:43.000 This happened in 2015, for example, under Obama, but he had been working on it for seven years.

01:16:48.000 And so they've been trying to sort of do a Iran deal 2.0.

01:16:54.000 But I think part of the problem was, is in doing that, it would send a lot of folks more to the Trump camp who were on the fence about Trump because now they're existentially threatened around this Iran situation.

01:17:06.000 But what they've done is they've allowed China to circumvent that.

01:17:11.000 And I think that they would do so in a second term or in a Harris term.

01:17:17.000 Harris is her short list of national security advisors and National Security Council folks seem like they would want to enter into an Iran deal.

01:17:27.000 So it seems like the Israeli government is concerned with either the blob forcing Kamala into office or Likely that sounds what they're afraid of.

01:17:36.000 That they're afraid that either she's going to win legitimately or disingenuously somehow that she's going to arrive in office and then sign a new Iran deal.

01:17:43.000 So they're getting in now before...

01:17:45.000 Right.

01:17:45.000 But remember, they don't even need to sign it at this point for a lot of this damage to accumulate.

01:17:49.000 Iran has already, you know, 20xed its economy versus the Trump years.

01:17:55.000 Because remember, not only did Trump get rid of the Iran deal, he also put massive, massive, massive sanctions on all.

01:18:02.000 This is the maximum pressure policy that Trump instituted.

01:18:05.000 Biden took a huge amount of that back.

01:18:09.000 If you remember earlier in the news cycle from about a year and a half ago, two years ago, Biden lifted sanctions, got $8 billion directly to the Iranian government that Trump had held under freeze.

01:18:22.000 So Iran has been able to economically thrive under the Biden-Harris White House, even without the Iran deal 2.0.

01:18:31.000 But if that were to go through, that would 100x multifold the problem from Israel's perspective.

01:18:37.000 And do you think the Israeli then government doesn't, a lot of people, this is all another conspiracy conversation, but just doesn't have that much influence over the blob?

01:18:45.000 I think it's a multifactional dispute that's constantly in flux.

01:18:49.000 I think one of the things that the Iran deal exposed was NATO won that side of the equation in that fight in 2015.

01:18:59.000 There's a constant negotiation.

01:19:01.000 There's the China lobby folks.

01:19:04.000 There's the Qatar lobby folks.

01:19:06.000 There's the UAE lobby folks.

01:19:07.000 There's the Israel lobby folks.

01:19:09.000 There's the British lobby folks.

01:19:10.000 Nina Jankovic, for example, is the head of our disinformation governance board.

01:19:15.000 It's now a registered foreign agent for the United Kingdom, for the British Crown.

01:19:20.000 So everyone is always constantly competing with each other on this.

01:19:25.000 And in some industries, certain lobbies are more influential than in others.

01:19:28.000 In the military space, some loom larger.

01:19:30.000 In certain commercial industries, others loom larger.

01:19:33.000 So it's a big multi-stakeholder thing.

01:19:36.000 Let's jump to this next one.

01:19:37.000 We got this from the Post Millennial.

01:19:38.000 Chinese hackers target phones of Trump and Vance.

01:19:41.000 This is getting crazy.

01:19:43.000 The hacker has reportedly targeted the phones of Trump and Vance as they've been campaigning for Election Day.

01:19:50.000 According to the New York Times, the hackers are believed to have gotten deep into American communications data and targeted information from the phones of Trump and Vance.

01:19:57.000 We didn't hear that three times.

01:19:59.000 According to the Times, people familiar with the matter told reporters about the Chinese hackers on Friday, and investigators are working to determine what information they were able to pick up from the phones, if any.

01:20:08.000 The Trump campaign was made aware of the hackers this week.

01:20:11.000 Information on the phones of Trump and Vance may have data that could potentially put the national security of the United States at risk, as the hacker may be able to obtain contacts, phone calls, and text messages sent and received from Trump as well as Vance.

01:20:21.000 I don't know how much I care.

01:20:23.000 I mean, I care a bit about us being attacked by, say, an adversary like China. 0.99

01:20:29.000 But this just sounds like, you know, I'll just say it. 0.97

01:20:32.000 Everything before the election is just muddy garbage to me. 0.97

01:20:35.000 As if China's not been trying to do this with all government officials forever. 0.93

01:20:40.000 How encrypted of a phone is he using?

01:20:42.000 Is he using standard phone or is he using something?

01:20:44.000 Oh, it's probably an iPhone.

01:20:45.000 Okay, so what I want to know is if they can get in there and find Donald Trump's Twitter drafts.

01:20:51.000 That's what I want to know.

01:20:52.000 I want to see the tweets he didn't ever put out.

01:20:55.000 It's probably crazy.

01:20:56.000 That's where Covfefe comes from.

01:20:57.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

01:20:59.000 He's got tweets from like 2017.

01:21:01.000 Look, I don't like China, but if they could publish that, that'd be fantastic. 1.00

01:21:05.000 Yeah, I just feel like all the news right now is just nothing.

01:21:11.000 It's just they're all trying to do things.

01:21:15.000 Can I go to bed until the 11th?

01:21:18.000 I mean, for 11 days?

01:21:19.000 See, I can't even think straight.

01:21:20.000 Go to bed until the 5th.

01:21:23.000 By the way, I don't believe this for a second.

01:21:25.000 Well, you don't believe China's trying to hack the United States?

01:21:27.000 No, I don't think that.

01:21:28.000 I think it's the inverse.

01:21:29.000 I think China's likely hacked everybody. 0.82

01:21:31.000 They probably got access to your phone information.

01:21:35.000 Well, we know that, for example, the NSA reads Tucker Carlson's signal messages.

01:21:35.000 Well, okay.

01:21:40.000 You don't think they're reading Donald Trump's?

01:21:42.000 Yeah, of course they are.

01:21:43.000 And then if China hacks the NSA, they're going to have all of that too. 0.60

01:21:46.000 The problem is, is after Vault 7, how can you look at any of this without a critical eye?

01:21:52.000 What do you mean critical eye?

01:21:54.000 What I mean is false attribution for hacking attacks is 101.

01:21:58.000 You think China's not hacking us?

01:22:00.000 I don't know in this case, but it's very possible that it could be a US-based network that simply leaves a false attribution trail.

01:22:07.000 Let's just start from the beginning.

01:22:08.000 Do you think China is using hackers to target Americans?

01:22:11.000 Sure.

01:22:12.000 100%.

01:22:12.000 That's why I'm like, this story is nothing.

01:22:14.000 It's like, thing happened.

01:22:16.000 That thing that happens every day for the past 15 years is still happening.

01:22:19.000 Right, but I don't accept the premise of this article.

01:22:21.000 I agree that in a hypothetical case, it's certainly possible.

01:22:25.000 But simply seeing this, when I see this being reported without the receipts, show me how you came to that determination.

01:22:32.000 I need more detail than that.

01:22:34.000 Without revealing sources and methods for whatever the classified process would be for making those digital forensic determinations, I need more color than just someone from China did it.

01:22:45.000 Because the problem is, is we know from Julian Assange that pocket Putin is a core capacity of the U.S. intelligence hacking syndicate.

01:22:57.000 That is false attribution.

01:22:59.000 When the U.S. hacks someone's phone, hacks their TV, hacks their microwave or toaster, we can leave fingerprints for false attribution.

01:23:08.000 That's what you always do, by the way.

01:23:10.000 And so just because at the top level you have some VPN piping in from Shanghai, that does not a Shanghai hacker make...

01:23:20.000 You said it's called Vault 7?

01:23:22.000 Is that the name of the leak from Assange?

01:23:22.000 Yeah.

01:23:25.000 Yeah.

01:23:26.000 I think the same thing with rockets being fired from a foreign country.

01:23:29.000 For all I know, they could have been put there by the country that wants to be fired on.

01:23:32.000 So the question then becomes, why bother trusting or distrusting any country if they all do it and we don't know which is which?

01:23:38.000 I think more is, I think that the public needs to demand much more robust reporting when it comes to cyber activity than what they're being fed.

01:23:49.000 Because hacking is a totally classified realm.

01:23:53.000 You are either a hacker for the CIA, the NSA, or the FBI, or you are a felon.

01:24:00.000 That's the only two jobs in town for hacking.

01:24:03.000 It's either massively illegal, and you're going to prison for 20 years, or you're working for U.S. intelligence.

01:24:09.000 And so lay civilians— Well, there's pen testing.

01:24:11.000 What's that?

01:24:12.000 There's pen testing.

01:24:12.000 Yeah, sure.

01:24:13.000 I mean, there's—you know, you can be, I guess, and also a private consultant doing vulnerability— Yeah, penetration testing.

01:24:20.000 You're talking about black hat hacking?

01:24:21.000 No, penetration testing.

01:24:22.000 You're talking about white hat hacking.

01:24:24.000 I mean, yes, technically.

01:24:27.000 So I would say that when you're working for the intelligence agencies and you're working for these contractors, my friends never called that white or black hat.

01:24:35.000 We called that green.

01:24:36.000 Money.

01:24:37.000 The White Hat stuff is like you work for a private company and you get hired as a cybersecurity company and they'll say, we're going to shore up your security.

01:24:44.000 We're going to try and keep it as – we're trying to get as minimal weight as possible so your employees have easy access to everything without being too cumbersome.

01:24:54.000 And then we're going to do a few penetration tests and see if we can break your security and explain where you guys were weak.

01:24:58.000 That's run-of-the-mill everyday stuff that you might find a small business doing of like two or three guys.

01:25:02.000 And that's probably the majority of quote-unquote hacking.

01:25:06.000 There's a lot of social engineering manipulation and con artistry stuff, but they call that hacking and it's basically just a con artist.

01:25:12.000 Someone tricked you into paying them out because, you know...

01:25:15.000 A guy said, oh, look, my car broke down and I need 50 bucks for gas.

01:25:18.000 It's a con, right?

01:25:19.000 Social engineering is the same thing, but over the phone, over the internet.

01:25:22.000 Then you have the government stuff, which is, you know, my French is called that green hat.

01:25:26.000 You work for the company that's going to pay you the most to do things that are kind of, you know.

01:25:30.000 And then, of course, there's gray hat, but these terms are just getting silly now.

01:25:33.000 Gray hat is like activists that are doing hacking and infiltration for, like, for, you know, the people who leak to WikiLeaks, for instance.

01:25:40.000 Many of them may be gray hat hackers.

01:25:42.000 Exfiltrating data, not legal, but they're doing it for a political cause, which is, eh, and then they leak it to somebody or something.

01:25:50.000 So are you insinuating that the black hat or the green hat hacking is either highly illegal or it's a government?

01:25:56.000 No, no, no.

01:25:57.000 Illegal stuff is black hat.

01:25:58.000 Breaking into a database and steal credit cards is black hat hacking.

01:26:01.000 Unless the government's doing it.

01:26:02.000 We make fun of the contractors working for governments as green hats because they're just going for the big fat military checks.

01:26:08.000 Okay.

01:26:08.000 What I'm getting at here specifically is this is not good enough for me anymore.

01:26:13.000 It wasn't good enough for me years ago.

01:26:15.000 Now I assign zero credibility to this.

01:26:18.000 When you see a news report that comes out and says the sky was blue yesterday, you as a civilian can easily decide whether or not you were being lied to because you went outside yesterday and it didn't look green.

01:26:32.000 It looked blue.

01:26:34.000 It's the same thing, for example, if the media reports that a projectile missile fell on Greensboro, North Carolina, there's going to be a picture of the indent in the earth.

01:26:49.000 There's going to be eyewitness testimony.

01:26:51.000 There's going to be lots of ways where you say, okay, that probably happened.

01:26:55.000 I don't think the AI deepfaked all this stuff.

01:26:57.000 But then are you just saying that because we got leaks about the U.S. and not about China, you're more inclined to believe the U.S. is doing bad but disregard things that China may be doing?

01:27:05.000 What I'm saying is how easy is it if you wanted to hack Donald Trump's phone because you are a rogue cell at NSA or a rogue cell at DHS or a rogue cell like Peter Strzok and co.

01:27:19.000 at FBI Counterintelligence and you want to delegate it to a foreign contractor with no look, we're not going to look.

01:27:26.000 And they do that, it would be the easiest thing in the world for that to just be a compartmentalized, classified operation, and they just have the contract at the end, put a little false...

01:27:35.000 But you're not making an argument as to why that is.

01:27:37.000 Now they get to read Trump's phones.

01:27:38.000 Yes, I am.

01:27:39.000 The argument is that they want to read Donald Trump's phone.

01:27:43.000 And they can simply say that China did it.

01:27:46.000 Does China want to read Trump's phone?

01:27:48.000 Sure, but that...

01:27:49.000 So right now we're at a moot point.

01:27:51.000 No, we're literally at a point where you're just like, we know the U.S. government does bad, therefore I don't trust this story.

01:27:57.000 And I'm like, give me some evidence, bro.

01:27:58.000 I know the U.S. government does bad.

01:28:00.000 Give me some evidence.

01:28:01.000 China hacked the phone.

01:28:02.000 Our evidence right now is the post-millennial said.

01:28:04.000 That's a singular story.

01:28:04.000 So why, well, it's actually, they're citing New York Times.

01:28:08.000 Well, let's pull up the New York Times article and let's see what proof, show me the math.

01:28:13.000 You're conflating two different things.

01:28:14.000 There's a question about the subject at hand, this particular story.

01:28:18.000 There is no reason for anyone to make any assertion of who did it outside of the statement made is that China did a thing.

01:28:26.000 Okay, that's it.

01:28:26.000 To say then it is that the US government could do it.

01:28:29.000 Therefore, I don't believe this for a second.

01:28:31.000 It's like...

01:28:32.000 Okay, well, anyone could have done it.

01:28:34.000 But right now, the statement is China did it.

01:28:36.000 Do we have evidence?

01:28:38.000 Limited to none.

01:28:39.000 So in that case, we have nothing.

01:28:40.000 There's no point in bringing up that you don't like the U.S. government hacking and doing bad things.

01:28:44.000 We don't have evidence China did it.

01:28:47.000 Your evidence is that the New York Times said it?

01:28:49.000 As I said, limited to none.

01:28:50.000 Right.

01:28:50.000 But what I'm saying is it was true yesterday that China hacks American devices and has an obvious interest in hacking Donald Trump's.

01:28:58.000 It was true a year ago.

01:29:00.000 It was true 10 years ago.

01:29:01.000 But this news cycle just broke.

01:29:03.000 And I need more proof in that, given how CISA was turned into a cyber censorship unit, because they said tweets on the Internet containing misinformation are a cyber threat or cyber threat actors in our attacks on the critical infrastructure of our elections.

01:29:19.000 If you tweet that mail in ballots are not reliable.

01:29:23.000 This is one of the most corrupt wings of the U.S. government, and it operates in the most cloak cover of darkness.

01:29:30.000 And so when I see a news story from the New York Times, who simultaneously publishes that we need to torch the U.S. Constitution and who lied us into the Iraq War, I do not immediately accept the premise unless they show me the math.

01:29:43.000 And what I think the American public needs to demand on all things digital and all things digital forensics and hacking is we need a higher standard of reporting for this to pass the smell test.

01:29:52.000 Right.

01:29:53.000 I agree.

01:29:54.000 The issue I brought up was with you then diverting to saying, Vault 7, the U.S. government, their apparatus, they could do this, they have a better reason to do it, and they want to know what's on Trump's phone, as if to imply the real story is that the U.S. government hacked Trump's phone.

01:30:06.000 No, I didn't imply that that was the case.

01:30:08.000 I implied I don't believe this because that's equally likely to.

01:30:12.000 Right.

01:30:12.000 So then we don't need to talk about what the U.S. government can or can't do in this context.

01:30:15.000 We have a story about Chinese hacking. 0.87

01:30:16.000 We don't believe it.

01:30:17.000 We can move on.

01:30:17.000 It's nice to think about false flag, digital false flags.

01:30:21.000 Because I've literally, I mentioned it earlier, I'm concerned with like foreign, like putting missiles in another country and having them fired on you. 1.00

01:30:21.000 It is. 1.00

01:30:27.000 So you can be like, they fired on me.

01:30:28.000 Like, how deep does it go?

01:30:30.000 Does the CIA do that kind of thing?

01:30:32.000 Has there been evidence that they've literally gone into a foreign country, set up rockets and fired on themselves to be like, they're firing on us?

01:30:40.000 I don't know.

01:30:41.000 I mean, certainly we, you know, the Stuxnet capacities and...

01:30:46.000 I mean, we literally hacked North Korea's missile launch tests in order to, you know, make them be ineffective.

01:30:53.000 That's been publicly reported.

01:30:55.000 But I'm not saying that...

01:30:57.000 I mean, that would be a step that I've never heard of before.

01:30:59.000 Is the argument this is to drum up anti-China sentiment among the American population?

01:31:04.000 No, not necessarily.

01:31:05.000 I just...

01:31:06.000 You know, a lot of times...

01:31:09.000 I mean, I don't think we have a real point of disagreement here.

01:31:12.000 I was just providing color on my reaction to seeing the article.

01:31:16.000 Like, I agree with what you said about, you know, China obviously having a robust hacking capacity and hacking American devices and that they would have an interest in doing so. 0.96

01:31:26.000 The larger point that I was making here is that when I see this article in the New York Times and I don't see math attached to it, here's how they made this determination.

01:31:34.000 Without revealing sources and methods, I need more than someone said.

01:31:38.000 Sure, but they never do that.

01:31:39.000 But that's what I'm getting at, is that they can get away with these news cycles without the American people ever questioning, hey, how.

01:31:47.000 Oh yeah, I agree.

01:31:47.000 That's immediate racism.

01:31:49.000 Right, right.

01:31:50.000 But you do watch in some fields as credibility drops out.

01:31:54.000 There is a higher standard for meeting the public skepticism about things.

01:31:58.000 And I'm simply demanding that in these cyber hacking cases.

01:32:02.000 Agreed.

01:32:03.000 So this is the story that we have so far is New York Times says sources claim Trump and Vance, as well as many Democrats, but they use Trump and Vance in the lead.

01:32:03.000 Yeah.

01:32:14.000 This is the weirdest thing, too.

01:32:16.000 They say that Democrats, including Kamala Harris's campaign and prominent figures on Capitol Hill, Chuck Schumer, were also targeted, but the headline is Trump and Vance.

01:32:26.000 And they don't name a single official.

01:32:28.000 No one is accountable to this story.

01:32:30.000 An official who cited it?

01:32:31.000 Well, they say officials.

01:32:33.000 Well, who are the officials?

01:32:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:34.000 They never have any...

01:32:35.000 So no one is actually responsible.

01:32:39.000 But then the question is, what is the intention of the New York Times to get clicks to make money?

01:32:43.000 There's not much substance to the story.

01:32:45.000 It would then be, I suppose, if it's a fake story, to drum up sentiment against China.

01:32:50.000 Maybe because we're going to engage in a war with Taiwan at some point and they want the American people to be mad at China.

01:32:55.000 That's one of several possibilities, I think.

01:32:58.000 Yeah, that could be a double win.

01:33:00.000 I mean, there's lots of possibilities, but if a local American company hacked and then blamed it on a foreigner, not only do you get the data, but you get the enemy to get hated.

01:33:09.000 Did they list Kamala Harris in that as well?

01:33:12.000 I thought I saw that farther down.

01:33:13.000 Her campaign.

01:33:14.000 Maybe the idea is that by listing Trump and Vance, it makes them look more unstable as if they're targeting them specifically, even if they don't name them.

01:33:23.000 Insecure.

01:33:24.000 Yeah.

01:33:24.000 But here's the thing.

01:33:26.000 They're obviously reading Trump's communications.

01:33:28.000 They want to know if he's back-channeling.

01:33:31.000 We just lived through Russiagate 1.0, 2.0, 3.0.

01:33:35.000 They want to know, you know, hey, was there any text message to somebody who's a Russian oligarch or a back-channel or an interlocutor?

01:33:42.000 If it is, then we nailed them, boys.

01:33:46.000 And we're going to...

01:33:46.000 I mean, they just, what, two days ago, they say Elon Musk was texting with Vladimir Putin.

01:33:52.000 Yeah.

01:33:52.000 Again, another one of these...

01:33:54.000 Keith Olbermann said to arrest him.

01:33:54.000 How did they get that?

01:33:56.000 Was Elon...

01:33:57.000 First of all, I don't even know if that's true, but if you assume it's true...

01:34:00.000 The Olbermann thing?

01:34:01.000 No, no, no, I mean...

01:34:02.000 I'm kidding.

01:34:03.000 How did they get the text with Vladimir Putin?

01:34:06.000 Except by hacking the phone.

01:34:08.000 Unless Elon personally showed the phone.

01:34:11.000 Again, that's accepting the truth of it.

01:34:13.000 Elon's not weighed in on it, and I'm reserving judgment.

01:34:16.000 But the fact is, is they want to know...

01:34:21.000 Both for national security reasons, for counterintelligence, but also for political operations purposes.

01:34:26.000 That can be used to generate a treason trial, a counterintelligence probe, a special prosecutor.

01:34:33.000 And it would be very easy for them to put a little boop, a little button on it at the end, a little false attribution that says, oh, you know what?

01:34:40.000 Your phone's been tampered with. 0.99

01:34:43.000 Darn, the Chinese did it. 1.00

01:34:44.000 Darn, the Iranians did. 1.00

01:34:45.000 Darn, the Russians, the Venezuelans. 1.00

01:34:47.000 And so I need more than totally anonymous, zero accountability from the government for me to think that this is clean. 0.99

01:34:55.000 Do they ever go so far as to be like, hey, we found a text of you texting with a foreign official, and you're like, no, that's not mine.

01:35:00.000 They're like, look, we have the records, and they just forged the records?

01:35:03.000 I don't know of any cases like that, but...

01:35:07.000 Is that within the capability of technology?

01:35:08.000 There was the, I believe it was Kevin Clinesmith, right?

01:35:11.000 Oh, well, wasn't that the FISA? Oh, yeah, yeah, right.

01:35:16.000 There was an email where he doctored evidence to get the FISA warrant.

01:35:20.000 How did they find out that it had been doctored?

01:35:24.000 There was an investigation in the Russia Gain investigation.

01:35:27.000 It was...

01:35:27.000 Oh, no, no.

01:35:28.000 Durham?

01:35:29.000 Yeah, the Durham report.

01:35:31.000 They investigated what led to the warrants and they found that this lawyer, he was an FBI lawyer, right?

01:35:35.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:35:36.000 He removed information from an email that showed, I believe it was, it's been a long time, Carter Page was an informant for, was it the CIA or was it for the FBI? Yeah.

01:35:45.000 I forget.

01:35:46.000 He was a federal informant.

01:35:47.000 He's working for the government.

01:35:49.000 He's also providing information on other people.

01:35:51.000 And Clinesmith wanted to get a FISA warrant, so he lied and said, this is just some guy doing bad things, when in reality he was doing things for the government.

01:35:59.000 They got the FISA warrant.

01:36:00.000 They went after him.

01:36:01.000 This was how they were trying to get Trump.

01:36:02.000 It's probably part of that what you called transitional – what did you call it?

01:36:06.000 Transitional justice, yeah.

01:36:07.000 They were like, we're going to arrest this guy.

01:36:08.000 We need means to do it.

01:36:10.000 I believe Clinesmith ended up getting prosecuted, but what did he get, like a slap on the wrist?

01:36:10.000 Right.

01:36:14.000 Yeah, they watered it down to basically nothing from what I recall.

01:36:18.000 This is what always happens.

01:36:20.000 When malfeasance is discovered, some random guy you've never heard of takes the fall for it and gets some slap on the wrist.

01:36:26.000 Peter Strzok, didn't Peter Strzok get a multi-million dollar settlement suing the Justice Department for being mean to him?

01:36:33.000 He probably did.

01:36:34.000 If you look it up, Peter Strzok, Settlement Millions.

01:36:38.000 What's her face?

01:36:39.000 Who's the woman? 1.00

01:36:39.000 Lisa Page? 1.00

01:36:41.000 Yeah.

01:36:42.000 Peter Strzok.

01:36:43.000 How do you spell that?

01:36:43.000 S-T-R-Z-O-K. Is that how you pronounce it?

01:36:47.000 That was the guy who...

01:36:51.000 Trump won't win, will he, to the FBI lawyer?

01:36:54.000 He's the head of counterintelligence for the FBI. He's the insurance plan.

01:36:59.000 The Fed settles privacy claim by an FBI agent and lawyer with early roles in Trump Russia probe.

01:37:03.000 How much money did they end up paying Peter Strzok?

01:37:05.000 I'm looking here.

01:37:07.000 So what, they threw Strzok out of the bus and then paid him back?

01:37:09.000 No.

01:37:10.000 It's in the millions.

01:37:11.000 We'll figure it out later, I suppose.

01:37:16.000 We're going to go to Super Chat.

01:37:18.000 So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with everyone you know, leave us a good review if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or wherever it is you get your podcasts, and become a member at TimCast.com.

01:37:28.000 Because the Josh Siter, fake trans social experiment video behind the scenes is live now on the website.

01:37:34.000 And I also want to give a shout out to our good friend, Don Lemon, who called me extreme.

01:37:38.000 I don't think it says...

01:37:39.000 That was the funniest thing.

01:37:40.000 I was actually kind of surprised he did.

01:37:41.000 He was interviewing a guy who said that he was voting for Trump and that he gets his news from Rogan, Tim Pool, and Crowder.

01:37:47.000 And then he says, but I don't really follow the extreme people like Andrew Tate.

01:37:50.000 And then Lemon goes, Tim Pool's a little extreme, isn't he?

01:37:52.000 And he's like, oh, I don't know.

01:37:54.000 Maybe I don't really listen to that much because he's doing more clickbait, I guess.

01:37:57.000 So, you know.

01:37:59.000 And I was like, well, buddy.

01:38:02.000 If you listen to this show more often, you might have had a coherent answer for our friend Don Lemon because everyone's ragging on the dude because he got asked about why he's voting for Trump.

01:38:10.000 And he said, the economy and immigration and...

01:38:13.000 So you gotta watch more TimCast, dude.

01:38:16.000 Maybe you'd be better versed.

01:38:17.000 Better versed.

01:38:18.000 But I appreciate the shout-out.

01:38:20.000 And Don Lemon.

01:38:21.000 We should have him on the show.

01:38:22.000 But it's funny that Don Lemon said...

01:38:24.000 It's funny because the replies to Don Lemon, like, are you kidding?

01:38:26.000 Tim Pool, the milquetoast guy, is extreme? 1.00

01:38:28.000 You're nuts! 1.00

01:38:30.000 Yeah, yeah, well, you know. 1.00

01:38:31.000 All right, here we go.

01:38:32.000 Scooby Dragon says, howdy, people.

01:38:34.000 Howdy, indeed.

01:38:35.000 Hey, Scooby.

01:38:35.000 Yep.

01:38:36.000 Yeah, the problem is Don Lemon gets his news from CNN, so...

01:38:39.000 He gives the news to CNN. You can tell he's questioning those, isn't he?

01:38:43.000 I actually feel sorry for CNN. Now they fired the guy.

01:38:47.000 All right, what do we got?

01:38:48.000 What do we got?

01:38:49.000 Joan says, hey, Tim and crew, member for about a year now.

01:38:51.000 Just want to say thanks for all you do.

01:38:52.000 Really do appreciate it.

01:38:53.000 Join the fun over on the Discord server.

01:38:55.000 If you want to hang out with people who think largely like you...

01:38:59.000 You go to timcast.com, click join us, become a member, 10 bucks a month, get in that Discord server.

01:39:03.000 We're actually going to be in there tonight.

01:39:04.000 We're going to be doing a little after show tonight.

01:39:06.000 This is the weekend lock-off show with Raymond G. Stanley.

01:39:09.000 He's going to help put me in touch, so I'll be on later.

01:39:11.000 Maybe you want to yell at Ian because you don't like him and think he's wrong.

01:39:14.000 Well, here's your chance.

01:39:15.000 And maybe you love me.

01:39:16.000 You want to tell me that.

01:39:17.000 Maybe you're his biggest fan and you want to say that you love him.

01:39:21.000 You just feel different about him on different days.

01:39:23.000 Some days you love him, some days you want to yell at him.

01:39:24.000 I feel about myself, man.

01:39:25.000 That's what it is.

01:39:26.000 Alright.

01:39:27.000 Award-winning taint.

01:39:29.000 Is that what it says?

01:39:29.000 Whoa.

01:39:30.000 Tim, like me, you have been given the greatest award ever.

01:39:32.000 A child.

01:39:33.000 I wish her great health and strong moral character like yourself.

01:39:35.000 Thank you very much, sir.

01:39:36.000 I appreciate it.

01:39:37.000 I've heard that username in the PCC chat before.

01:39:41.000 What's up?

01:39:42.000 Who is it?

01:39:43.000 Who is it?

01:39:44.000 He's gonna make you say it again.

01:39:46.000 Okay.

01:39:47.000 Pardon me.

01:39:49.000 I do think it's kind of funny to consider that, you know, I meet people and they say, I feel like I know you because I listen to you for hours every day, but you don't know who I am.

01:39:57.000 And I'm like, that is correct.

01:39:59.000 So it's kind of weird that every day, Monday through Friday and the weekends, we have clips up.

01:40:07.000 When my kid grows up, it's like, would you like to see an eight-year account of my life?

01:40:13.000 Actually, how about this?

01:40:14.000 You can literally listen to what I was thinking about every day from the moment you were born until today.

01:40:23.000 And that's kind of wild.

01:40:24.000 So epic.

01:40:24.000 Well, then you got to start like a separate podcast.

01:40:26.000 You don't even have to actually post it talking about other interests because this is narrower in focus, right?

01:40:32.000 It's also boonies.

01:40:33.000 Yeah.

01:40:33.000 But it's just like – so that's what you were thinking about on that day.

01:40:36.000 It's kind of – you know what's really crazy is that we actually have – we have robotic perfect recall now.

01:40:42.000 I mean I do.

01:40:42.000 I can't speak for you guys.

01:40:43.000 But me doing this show Monday through Friday – I can be like, I wonder what I was talking about on February 3rd, you know, 2021.

01:40:54.000 And I can pull up the episode and go, oh yeah.

01:40:58.000 That's crazy.

01:40:59.000 That's the day that Ian put that paper towel in the toilet and got it clogged.

01:41:03.000 Then went down there with face first.

01:41:06.000 I remember that day.

01:41:07.000 Yeah, Phil, you remember that day.

01:41:09.000 Alright, here we go.

01:41:11.000 What do we got here?

01:41:12.000 Biden body double says, Ian was gone for a while.

01:41:15.000 I was like, where's Ian?

01:41:16.000 Now that he's back, I'm like, I don't care about the crown and the constant diversion of conversation.

01:41:20.000 Hey, you brought it up.

01:41:22.000 Tars talking about empire.

01:41:23.000 I'm glad you're here.

01:41:24.000 He sounded really happy at first, and then at the end, he's like, yeah, stop talking about the crown.

01:41:28.000 He's just negative, bro.

01:41:29.000 He's into it.

01:41:30.000 So do you think MI6 and the CIA are controlling the crown at this point?

01:41:36.000 That's not in the super chat, right?

01:41:37.000 That's a serious question in the end, though.

01:41:40.000 All right, Twisty says, was listening to the culture war, and I'll just say this, that most of the road truck drivers can't afford a home on the wages we get as truck drivers.

01:41:48.000 I personally would not be able to afford a home, car, and basic bills on the pay I get now.

01:41:53.000 So there's a simple equation.

01:41:56.000 It's kind of a useless equation.

01:41:58.000 But if the cost of acquiring water ever exceeds the amount a person gets paid for a job, you'll get a revolution in two seconds.

01:42:05.000 Yep.

01:42:11.000 main source of water and another country starts doing things to the water war because it's like hey downstream we're dying you're putting poison in our water we have no choice so we usually don't see uh water conflict in terms of i can't afford to get water to my home people just leave and go find water somewhere else but uh it's a that's why i said it's largely useless but the general idea is there if a required resource becomes too difficult to obtain through work people will begin to act violent to obtain such a resource.

01:42:40.000 Well, that's why what I've always said whenever people talk about civil war, from the Luddite perspective, it's like, wouldn't it be more common to believe that that will happen once food shortages happen?

01:42:51.000 That's what happens.

01:42:52.000 Yeah.

01:42:53.000 People are too comfortable now.

01:42:55.000 So the Arab Spring, they attribute the cost of food largely to what sparks off the Arab Spring.

01:42:59.000 Right.

01:42:59.000 That's why U.S. sanctions policy is designed to create famine.

01:43:03.000 Literally, I think there's an assistant secretary in the Biden administration.

01:43:10.000 I know that Max Blumenthal and the Gray Zone folks reported on this, basically stipulating that the State Department and USAID, they see the goal of sanctions policy to create that exact equation that Tim just teed up.

01:43:26.000 There's a regime that we want to throw out power. 0.95

01:43:28.000 They did this, for example, in Syria with Assad.

01:43:30.000 They strafed the wheat fields.

01:43:32.000 They bombed the wheat fields so that there was less grain production in order to increase hunger, in order to get more Syrians on the streets to overthrow the Assad government because of the inaccessibility of food.

01:43:46.000 Cameron Giotto says, I was thinking about this today.

01:43:49.000 The past eight years we have been living in a new Red Scare McCarthyism, but against those seen as conservative rather than communist.

01:43:56.000 Yes.

01:43:57.000 You mean sort of, yeah.

01:43:58.000 CWOD says, I'm flying back home from Ukraine just to make sure I can vote in person.

01:44:02.000 This election is too important.

01:44:04.000 Congrats, Tim.

01:44:05.000 God bless you and yours.

01:44:06.000 Phil, you the best.

01:44:07.000 Cheers, man.

01:44:07.000 What are you doing in Ukraine?

01:44:09.000 Welcome home, man.

01:44:10.000 In the West, huh?

01:44:11.000 Welcome back, CWOD. See Watts.

01:44:14.000 Oh.

01:44:15.000 See what?

01:44:16.000 Is it Quats?

01:44:18.000 See Watts.

01:44:19.000 Thanks, man.

01:44:20.000 Samuel Rice says, I legit emailed Timcast last week to have Benz on.

01:44:24.000 And we listened.

01:44:24.000 That's exactly how it went down.

01:44:26.000 I swear it was just for you.

01:44:27.000 He pulled up the email himself and said, book him now.

01:44:30.000 It's actually me.

01:44:31.000 I super chatted that.

01:44:35.000 It worked.

01:44:37.000 Tom Wolfe says, spread the word.

01:44:38.000 Any illegals or non-citizens that vote in this election could be immediately arrested on site and deported.

01:44:43.000 It's technically true.

01:44:44.000 No, it's literally true.

01:44:44.000 Trump said it.

01:44:46.000 Trump said that they're going to arrest people who are violating the law when it comes to elections.

01:44:49.000 He said, you better watch out.

01:44:51.000 You better not cry because Trump is coming to arrest you.

01:44:57.000 That's right.

01:44:58.000 All right, here we go.

01:45:00.000 Sean H. says, a Virginia judge just said, it's illegal to remove illegals from the ballot.

01:45:04.000 The governor is trying to get an injunction, but let's face it, the Democrats run the system.

01:45:09.000 That's crazy.

01:45:11.000 Well, I kind of think, it's fascinating that we live in a society where when Democrats break the rules, Republicans go, no!

01:45:21.000 What?

01:45:21.000 Yeah, nothing ever changes.

01:45:22.000 The governor can issue an executive order right now saying no.

01:45:25.000 And then require them to go get an injunction. 0.62

01:45:27.000 And then when they do, he can do what Cuomo did.

01:45:29.000 He's go, okay, let me draft another one.

01:45:30.000 No again.

01:45:31.000 Here you go.

01:45:32.000 Go get another injunction. 1.00

01:45:33.000 The election's in 11 days.

01:45:34.000 He can just do it.

01:45:35.000 But they love to write sternly worded letters to him.

01:45:39.000 Cuomo...

01:45:40.000 It spoils down to the, I think it was Andrew Jackson, or maybe it was Andrew Jackson, but he said, you know, the Chief Justice has made his ruling, now let him enforce it.

01:45:49.000 You know, the Supreme Court made a ruling, and I think it was Andrew Jackson that said, you know, I'm going to ignore your ruling and do what I want to do.

01:45:57.000 Like, at some level...

01:45:59.000 That is like a possibility.

01:46:01.000 As long as there are forces or whether it be the Justice Department or, you know, direct action forces that are going to listen to whoever's giving the order, it doesn't matter what the courts say.

01:46:12.000 Yeah, it's just crazy because we've totally lost rule of law in this country with what...

01:46:18.000 Merrick Garland's gangster justice department does like the same institution that is telling you you need to have illegal voters on your voting rolls is the same institution who can effectively legally assassinate you.

01:46:34.000 By destroying your life if you are in the political crosshairs of the administration.

01:46:40.000 Who wants to be on the bad side of Merrick Garland?

01:46:42.000 Oh, is it live?

01:46:43.000 I'm just going to hold up my phone.

01:46:44.000 Hey! 0.99

01:46:45.000 Which is right now just showing Joe Rogan talking to someone on his show.

01:46:49.000 Ooh, I wonder who he's talking to.

01:46:50.000 I wonder who he's talking to right now.

01:46:52.000 That looks like an interesting show.

01:46:55.000 And I'm just going to wait for a second.

01:46:56.000 We're just going to wait because we're just...

01:46:57.000 All you can see is a little tiny Joe Rogan waving his hand around.

01:47:00.000 I wonder what's on about.

01:47:01.000 He's talking somebody's ear off.

01:47:02.000 Maybe he's talking to Ian.

01:47:04.000 Five minutes ago and it's 46k views already.

01:47:09.000 Oh, there it is!

01:47:11.000 That was Donald Trump.

01:47:13.000 Whoa, he looks good.

01:47:14.000 People listening.

01:47:15.000 Trump scare?

01:47:17.000 Indeed, ladies and gentlemen.

01:47:18.000 Oh, there it is again.

01:47:19.000 Look at that.

01:47:19.000 Oh, they're live right now.

01:47:21.000 The episode's up.

01:47:23.000 The whole episode is now live, and I'm going to sit here and watch the concurrent viewers start dropping as we wind up.

01:47:30.000 I was going to go on Discord.

01:47:32.000 I still feel committed.

01:47:33.000 It's three hours long.

01:47:34.000 Wow.

01:47:35.000 Three hours.

01:47:36.000 10 p.m.

01:47:36.000 on a Friday.

01:47:37.000 Wow.

01:47:38.000 Yeah, that's kind of insane.

01:47:40.000 Why do that?

01:47:41.000 It's great for credibility, though, because it shows they can't have edited it.

01:47:45.000 They put it out right away.

01:47:47.000 It's as close to live as you can basically get.

01:47:49.000 And they're not trying to maximize views by waiting to...

01:47:53.000 But it's not about that.

01:47:53.000 It risks burying the story.

01:47:55.000 I guess the idea is because it's three hours.

01:47:58.000 I don't know.

01:47:59.000 But the idea is that come Monday, there's going to be newsrooms slating stories, and they're going to pre-write, and they're going to schedule, and then come Monday, it's going to go up.

01:48:07.000 I feel like for Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan gets great viewership anyways, and for Donald Trump, it's like there's no burying the story, and there's no...

01:48:17.000 It doesn't matter when you put it out.

01:48:19.000 The people that want to listen are going to listen.

01:48:20.000 People are going to cover it.

01:48:22.000 It'll be all over the news Monday.

01:48:23.000 Probably have people doing special reports on it this weekend.

01:48:27.000 I will be...

01:48:30.000 YouTube.com slash TimCastNews.

01:48:32.000 Subscribe now.

01:48:33.000 Saturday, which is tomorrow, I will be here and I will likely have several segments commenting on, or I'll probably just do one big one commenting on the show and my thoughts on it and what Trump said.

01:48:44.000 There's probably going to be many an article written about it.

01:48:48.000 And so tomorrow morning, again, subscribe.

01:48:50.000 YouTube.com slash TimCastNews for your post-Rogan Trump interview commentary from Tim Paul.

01:48:56.000 Are you going to watch it tonight?

01:48:57.000 Power watch it?

01:48:57.000 As soon as the show's over, I'm putting it up on the TV. That's awesome.

01:49:01.000 I can't imagine anyone's going to want to miss this one.

01:49:03.000 Yeah, I know.

01:49:03.000 I'm right.

01:49:04.000 Look, I could have waited and just not said anything, because now I'm watching the viewers go down.

01:49:09.000 I guess we could watch it on Discord together.

01:49:12.000 I was going to go on Discord.

01:49:13.000 That might be a fun thing to do.

01:49:14.000 How about this, guys?

01:49:15.000 A watch-along.

01:49:16.000 Yeah, we'll do a watch-along party for those on the Discord.

01:49:19.000 So go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and we'll watch the show, which basically means we're going to say, hey, everybody, we're starting the show now.

01:49:28.000 We're not going to broadcast it.

01:49:29.000 You guys played at home, and we can all hang out in the chat while we're talking about the show and what's going on.

01:49:35.000 That's a good idea.

01:49:37.000 I wonder how we can get it.

01:49:38.000 I want to sit on a couch.

01:49:39.000 I'm going to fall asleep.

01:49:40.000 What time is this?

01:49:40.000 It's almost 10 o'clock.

01:49:41.000 How can you stop spoilers?

01:49:42.000 It's like a three-hour movie.

01:49:44.000 If you start an hour behind the other people in the Discord, you don't want to be like, oh, that part, Trump believes in aliens, dude, what?

01:49:50.000 You don't want anything to get spoken over, too.

01:49:53.000 The only part I want to see is when Trump smokes the weed.

01:49:57.000 Oh, no, I forgot.

01:49:58.000 Sorry, spoilers, guys, spoilers.

01:49:59.000 Oh, you already saw it.

01:50:00.000 Yeah, apparently Trump does ayahuasca. 0.98

01:50:03.000 Badass.

01:50:03.000 He just, halfway through the show, he's like, we're gonna do DMT, Joe!

01:50:07.000 Let's go!

01:50:08.000 And Joe's like, let's roll.

01:50:10.000 The veil is lifted.

01:50:12.000 Alex Jones cameo, what?

01:50:14.000 So the reporting right now is that Kamala was in discussions and there's two rumors circulating that one, she said it was a scheduled conflict, can't do it. 1.00

01:50:20.000 The other, the other rumor is that she asked for certain restrictions and Joe refused.

01:50:24.000 Yep.

01:50:25.000 Trump said, you can talk about whatever you want, I don't care.

01:50:27.000 And Kamala was like, we don't want to talk about these things.

01:50:29.000 And Joe was like, nope.

01:50:30.000 I believe the second one.

01:50:32.000 100%.

01:50:32.000 You have to ask these 35 questions.

01:50:35.000 You can't go on script.

01:50:38.000 I'm willing to bet that Kamala's team said, we don't want to talk about 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5.

01:50:42.000 And then Joe was like, no.

01:50:44.000 Dude, it's a three-hour conversation.

01:50:45.000 We're going to talk about whatever comes up.

01:50:47.000 How weird would it be if you say we can't talk about the border crisis and then a story comes up where we're talking and we're like, oh yeah, that woman who died, Lake and Riley, Better to change the subject.

01:50:56.000 How do you feel about rabbits?

01:51:00.000 I'm a fan of chickens.

01:51:01.000 It would be nonsense.

01:51:04.000 I wonder if Joe mentioned that tonight, or in the thing, if he talks to Trump about it, he was like, well, we're going to do it with Kamala, but she didn't want to because blah, blah, blah.

01:51:12.000 He has no reason to defend her.

01:51:14.000 He has no reason to protect her.

01:51:15.000 I don't know.

01:51:17.000 I don't think it's reasonable to say that Serge would want to stay here for three hours after the show.

01:51:22.000 But I'm not going to ask him.

01:51:23.000 I mean, that's what I'm doing anyways.

01:51:25.000 I don't know who's not going to watch this. 1.00

01:51:27.000 I can be stupid to not watch this. 0.97

01:51:28.000 Can we set up the TV out there to connect to the Discord? 1.00

01:51:32.000 I'm sure we can do it.

01:51:34.000 It would probably be like, we have to be on the Discord.

01:51:36.000 That's the issue.

01:51:37.000 I know.

01:51:37.000 Nobody will be able to be silent.

01:51:39.000 Unless we took a phone.

01:51:41.000 Logged into the Discord.

01:51:42.000 Oh, you could do it.

01:51:42.000 Yeah, we could do that.

01:51:43.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:51:44.000 Anything about that?

01:51:45.000 Yeah, so we could plug a phone in, and then turn voice on, and all of us are just sitting around.

01:51:50.000 Yeah, I'll connect to the Discord with my phone when I pull my earbuds in, so I'll be able to talk.

01:51:53.000 Yeah.

01:51:53.000 I don't know if I could sit in this chair for another three hours.

01:51:56.000 Actually, no.

01:51:57.000 I mean, I could turn and put my feet up and then we could play it on the big screen.

01:51:59.000 You have a beautiful one out.

01:52:01.000 Oh! 0.60

01:52:01.000 We got the movie screen! 0.60

01:52:03.000 Yeah, the projector, yeah.

01:52:04.000 Yo! 1.00

01:52:05.000 Everyone knows how sick that is.

01:52:07.000 I don't know.

01:52:07.000 So we just got it installed.

01:52:08.000 We've got a, I think it's a 25-foot projector screen on the back wall of the Boonies building.

01:52:14.000 And it's exactly for this.

01:52:16.000 This is going to be...

01:52:17.000 Should we order pizza?

01:52:19.000 Yeah, let's do it.

01:52:21.000 I'm not doing anything else.

01:52:22.000 I'm hanging out.

01:52:23.000 I'm ready.

01:52:24.000 Let me go fire up a pot of coffee.

01:52:26.000 Maybe what we can do is we can like...

01:52:29.000 Can we point a camera?

01:52:31.000 Oh man, how can we do this?

01:52:32.000 We have the one on the air we could do.

01:52:35.000 We could do it.

01:52:37.000 Like point the camera out?

01:52:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:52:38.000 Something like that.

01:52:39.000 Set it up, point it at the couch where we're all hanging out.

01:52:42.000 Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

01:52:43.000 Towards the couch and get the feet of everyone that's in there towards...

01:52:47.000 It'll be like Mystery Science Theater, you know, where it's like the shadow silhouettes watching the movie.

01:52:51.000 I think this will be the biggest podcast ever done.

01:52:54.000 Yeah, I think it's the biggest podcast.

01:52:55.000 It's what everyone's been begging for for, what, like 10 years?

01:52:59.000 Almost, maybe like, no, I think reasonably seven years.

01:53:02.000 2016.

01:53:02.000 When people were like, yeah, we want to debate with Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan's time in 2016 was big, but...

01:53:08.000 Because there was this tension, this flirtation.

01:53:10.000 Will they?

01:53:10.000 Won't they?

01:53:11.000 Will they?

01:53:11.000 Won't they?

01:53:12.000 Should I order pizza now?

01:53:13.000 It looked good, too.

01:53:14.000 Do you guys want pizza?

01:53:15.000 Who's sticking around for this?

01:53:16.000 I can't.

01:53:17.000 I've got a ketchup flight tomorrow.

01:53:19.000 I've literally got to go back to work. 1.00

01:53:21.000 Oh, damn. 0.99

01:53:22.000 Is there on a watch? 0.99

01:53:23.000 I have a flight tomorrow, too, but I can watch at least an hour.

01:53:26.000 I'm in.

01:53:27.000 We've already got some pizzas in the fridge.

01:53:29.000 I pizzaed them up, yeah.

01:53:31.000 Some leftover.

01:53:32.000 I don't need more pizza.

01:53:33.000 I'll eat two slices.

01:53:34.000 See, here's the thing.

01:53:34.000 If I knew it was going to drop Friday night, I would have organized something.

01:53:37.000 Yeah.

01:53:38.000 I thought it was going to be like noon.

01:53:39.000 I thought it was going to wrap the culture war and we were going to sit down and watch it.

01:53:42.000 Do you think they were going to put it today?

01:53:44.000 Like earlier today or Monday?

01:53:45.000 They said Trump's sitting down with Rogan on Friday.

01:53:45.000 That's what I thought.

01:53:48.000 And so I asked this.

01:53:49.000 Is it he's doing the interview Friday and then it'll come out some other time?

01:53:52.000 I just assumed it was going to come out Monday.

01:53:54.000 Yeah, I'm surprised.

01:53:56.000 Nah, there's no time.

01:53:57.000 There's no time.

01:53:58.000 We're 11 days out.

01:53:59.000 A week and a half out, Rogan just interviewed Trump.

01:54:02.000 Oh, man!

01:54:06.000 Alright, so I'm going to stress this again.

01:54:07.000 We're going to figure it out.

01:54:09.000 Go to TimCast.com.

01:54:11.000 Click join us.

01:54:12.000 Become a member.

01:54:13.000 Discord party.

01:54:14.000 So we will be live in the Discord watching along with you probably what is going to be the most epic podcast in history.

01:54:22.000 Could you imagine if it's really boring?

01:54:24.000 I can't imagine.

01:54:26.000 The Theo Vaughn one was better.

01:54:28.000 Trump's hilarious though.

01:54:30.000 I can't imagine not being made for this.

01:54:32.000 Could you imagine Joe being like, do you think early monkeys were fighting with humans?

01:54:40.000 He's going to ask about JFK. That's what I want.

01:54:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:44.000 And aliens.

01:54:45.000 Roswell.

01:54:46.000 Trump appreciates the stakes of this, I think.

01:54:49.000 And he's going to want to be interesting and say something he hasn't said before just to give that something extra to the audience.

01:54:57.000 Trump knows show business, man.

01:54:58.000 One of my favorite moments from being on Joe's show was...

01:55:02.000 I think he asked me about aliens.

01:55:03.000 We're talking about aliens.

01:55:04.000 And I just said, the reason why we need a one world government is because the Galactic Federation will not induct Earth into the Federation until we are unified under one governing authority.

01:55:14.000 And Joe just goes, I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.

01:55:18.000 I was like, Joe, I'm joking.

01:55:20.000 I was like, I was just, okay, you know, I guess I'm not a funny guy.

01:55:24.000 I'm sorry, guys.

01:55:25.000 That interaction was funny.

01:55:27.000 It was.

01:55:28.000 I love it.

01:55:29.000 It was like the one time he was just deadpan serious.

01:55:33.000 I think he probably did that on purpose because he knew it was going to be funny.

01:55:36.000 It's always good to hang out with.

01:55:38.000 Let's see.

01:55:39.000 We got a super chat from Napalm.

01:55:40.000 He says, Rogan, Trump just dropped.

01:55:41.000 Sorry, gotta go.

01:55:43.000 Yep.

01:55:43.000 Beast out.

01:55:44.000 Pat the Plumber says, where is the YouTube play button for Pop Culture Crisis?

01:55:47.000 Asking since my hero Brett Desickwick is on tonight.

01:55:50.000 We reached out to Google, and I asked them, I was like, hey, Pop Culture Crisis is over 100,000.

01:55:55.000 We want to get the silver play button for Brett and Mary.

01:55:57.000 And they said, you have to submit to Google Help.

01:56:00.000 I did.

01:56:00.000 It's so funny, the fact that you're so not talking to a person.

01:56:05.000 Oh, I know.

01:56:05.000 It's a woman.

01:56:07.000 I believe her name was Alicia.

01:56:09.000 She was definitely not Alicia.

01:56:10.000 Well, I'll tell you how I did it last time.

01:56:12.000 So I searched my email for the link they sent me for my first play button, and then I just put in the name of my new channel, and then it worked.

01:56:23.000 I think they said that if it had gone through, that likely it would have gone to the junk folder and then been deleted from the email folder after like 30 days.

01:56:31.000 So just never get one?

01:56:32.000 You can order replicas on Amazon.

01:56:36.000 I'm about to do that.

01:56:37.000 Well, we'll just have to get you to a million subscribers.

01:56:40.000 Well, then you're going to have to use the weight and throw the weight.

01:56:43.000 I'm pretty sure if I go into my email and just search for it and get the link from like 2019 or whatever...

01:56:50.000 I can just type in Pop Culture Crisis and it'll go...

01:56:53.000 Because there's one link that links you to where you get the awards.

01:56:56.000 But now they're just little silver buttons.

01:56:58.000 They're not even...

01:56:58.000 No, no.

01:56:59.000 The thing is I got to fill out the form and they put us on to like...

01:57:02.000 It's like a request form where you have to get an email back and forth to the lady. 0.98

01:57:08.000 And they're like, yeah, we'll get back to you in like three months.

01:57:10.000 It's because when YouTube first started doing the play buttons, it was difficult to get to 100,000.

01:57:16.000 Now, it's like...

01:57:18.000 Inflation.

01:57:19.000 Yeah, and look at these kids on TikTok.

01:57:21.000 It's like after a month, they have 100,000.

01:57:23.000 So now they're just like, do we really have to give out these things?

01:57:25.000 That's why they're making them crappier and crappier.

01:57:27.000 Yeah, it's unfortunate.

01:57:29.000 All right, what do we got?

01:57:30.000 Aaron Coakley says, Illinois ballot question, should we allow civil suits for candidates assaulting poll workers?

01:57:36.000 What?

01:57:36.000 All I can read is, should we allow civil suits for politicians objecting to election interference?

01:57:42.000 That's weird.

01:57:44.000 Crazy.

01:57:45.000 Michael Barnes says, ask Mike about Newland mentioning BioLabs and Rubio acting like that didn't happen.

01:57:51.000 That was so funny.

01:57:53.000 I mean, this is just an incredible moment of, you know, congressional hearings where I think Rubio asked Victoria Nuland about the presence of U.S. bio labs in Ukraine.

01:58:08.000 And I think he was, because this was a internet conspiracy theory that had been going viral throughout the week.

01:58:14.000 And it seemed, was it Rubio?

01:58:17.000 You asked Victoria Nuland live at a At a hearing. 0.82

01:58:23.000 And I think he expected the answer to be no.

01:58:26.000 And he was asking her to sort of put the rumor to bed once and for all.

01:58:32.000 And Victoria Noland... 0.99

01:58:34.000 I forget exactly how she put it, but she said, like, yes.

01:58:37.000 And...

01:58:38.000 Indicated that it was like quite extensive and kind of exactly what the internet was saying it was.

01:58:45.000 And the response was like to immediately shift the subject.

01:58:49.000 But there was a great like shot, reverse shot reaction when that happened because you could see that it was almost like the defense lawyer said, You know, asking on examination of his client in front of the judge, like, a leading question that they rehearsed earlier, and the client just said the exact opposite thing of what they talked about.

01:59:17.000 And so you, like, quickly move to the next line of questioning.

01:59:19.000 I hope the judge didn't hear it.

01:59:22.000 Alright, I think we're getting close to the time, so why don't you guys smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, and share the show.

01:59:28.000 And this one's important, we're going to watch the, we are going to do the Joe Rogan Trump companion show, which means you guys can watch it on YouTube at the same time as we are, and we will be providing commentary on the side.

01:59:40.000 It's great, because then you can mute us whenever you want, and then unmute us when you want to hear us smack talk, or whatever it is.

01:59:44.000 So go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and that will be up literally right after we wrap this.

01:59:50.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

01:59:52.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.

01:59:54.000 Mike, do you want to shout anything out?

01:59:56.000 At Mike Ben Cyber on X. And hopefully I can join along for at least part of the TimCast experience of the Joe Rogan experience.

02:00:04.000 Let's go.

02:00:05.000 Guys, X and Instagram at Brett Dasvick.

02:00:09.000 And please go check out Pop Culture Crisis.

02:00:11.000 Me and Mary are live Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.

02:00:14.000 Politics can be very depressing, very dour.

02:00:17.000 We have a lot of fun over there.

02:00:18.000 I think it's a great break from all of the stuff that's going on in the world.

02:00:22.000 We have a lot of fun.

02:00:23.000 And when you super chat, once you reach its $100, money guns fire and sirens go off.

02:00:29.000 Well, the money guns go off every time you super chat.

02:00:32.000 Oh, okay.

02:00:32.000 Yeah.

02:00:33.000 The crisis party, you know, is triggered every hundred dollars, and every time you do that, it's very, very good.

02:00:38.000 We have a lot of fun.

02:00:39.000 And the money hits the guest in the face?

02:00:41.000 It happens to Phil all the time.

02:00:45.000 And we make Phil dance during the...

02:00:47.000 So there's a Trump song that plays every time there's a crisis party.

02:00:50.000 Eat the cat.

02:00:51.000 Yeah.

02:00:51.000 Make Phil do it.

02:00:52.000 Well, we make all the guests do it, and if they don't, I side-eye them.

02:00:56.000 If you would like to fire a money gun into Phil Labonte's face, go to popculturecrisis.com, subscribe, and watch so Monday through Friday, 3 p.m., right?

02:01:04.000 Yep.

02:01:04.000 There you go.

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02:01:10.000 We had a lot of fun.

02:01:11.000 Hey, check my X account out, man.

02:01:12.000 Did some AI pictures, dude.

02:01:14.000 It is photorealistic artificial intelligence.

02:01:17.000 It looks like me on set, and I promise you this was not a picture of me from my last movie, but...

02:01:22.000 May as well have been.

02:01:23.000 It's shocking how powerful this AI is getting.

02:01:25.000 Check it out.

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