In this episode of Talking Pop Culture with Mary and Brett, we discuss the latest mail-in voting ruling in Mississippi and whether or not it sets us up for World War III. Plus, a man who thought he was a woman for 5 months and then revealed he was actually a woman.
00:00:22.000we just got a ruling from the Fifth Circuit Court, which, oh boy, it says that mail-in votes that are received after Election Day are in violation of federal law.
00:00:33.000Now, the interesting thing is this was a strategic lawsuit in Mississippi that seems to have the intention of making it to the Supreme Court to shut down any mail-in votes not cast after Election Day, but received after Election Day.
00:00:55.000The Constitution prescribes an election day.
00:00:58.000Counting ballots after the fact makes no sense.
00:01:01.000So this is setting the stage for something crazy.
00:01:05.000What happens if, in 11 days, Donald Trump wins?
00:01:09.000However, many states announce they've got mail-in votes that have yet to arrive and will come in at 3 in the morning.
00:01:16.000Then Kamala Harris wins, but the Republicans sue, citing Fifth Circuit Court precedents in the Supreme Court, who agrees with Republicans and says Kamala Harris loses, not because she didn't have enough votes, but because the votes came in after Election Day.
00:01:53.000So, we got 11 days before Trump gets in, and maybe it's true.
00:01:57.000The Uniparty establishment is intending on starting World War III before Trump can get in to prevent it.
00:02:02.000Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy Cast Brew Coffee because you're going to want to stay awake as the world is falling apart.
00:02:08.000Can't risk falling asleep in these trying times.
00:04:25.000Like, most of the time, I'll tell you what.
00:04:27.000So before I worked here, I followed politics religiously.
00:04:31.000It was something I cared a great deal about.
00:04:33.000Now, because of work, I don't really do that as much.
00:04:35.000And since having to get back into it, I'm like, wow, this is why I don't follow it as closely anymore, because the world feels like it's falling apart all the time.
00:04:56.000When you listen to this all night, I guarantee you, you will have way more fun talking about what the stupid things the celebrities are doing.
00:06:31.000But because it goes against their weird sensibilities and their, I don't know, uniparty establishment bootlicking, then it has to be Trump-appointed.
00:06:40.000A panel of three Donald Trump-appointed judges said Friday that Mississippi was violating federal law by counting mail ballots that arrive after Election Day, but stopped short of blocking the policy before the election in a ruling that could nevertheless impact voting-related lawsuits this fall.
00:06:55.000The ruling from the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which is Alito's circuit, by the way.
00:07:00.000It's a victory for, and he's based, it's a victory for the Republican National Committee and others who brought the case in Mississippi, a non-battleground state with very little mail-in voting, seeking a ruling by a far-right circuit court friendly to their arguments.
00:07:12.000Yes, that's called jurisdiction selection or whatever?
00:07:19.000Democrats and voting rights advocates fear that a ruling of Republicans' favor will be used to boost challenges to late arriving ballots in other states, which could make the difference if the margins are tight in key races.
00:07:29.000Quote, Congress statutorily designated a singular day for the election of members of Congress and the appointment of presidential electors.
00:07:38.000The Fifth Circuit Court panel said text precedent and historical practice confirm this day for the election is the day by which ballots must be both cast by voters and received by state officials.
00:07:48.000Among the states that allow late arriving ballots are Nevada, Ohio, Virginia, as does Maryland, the site of a competitive Senate race.
00:07:55.000Also allowing for post-election ballot receipt is California and New York, both states that could make a major difference in which party controls the House of Representatives.
00:08:03.000So here's your scenario, ladies and gentlemen.
00:08:06.000In 2020, Donald Trump won on Election Day.
00:08:08.000And Donald Trump said, hey, look at that, I win.
00:08:11.000They said, no, no, no, we're going to get ballots at three in the morning.
00:09:35.000Both sides then have some version where they claim legitimate authority over who actually wins.
00:09:42.000And where does this country go from there?
00:09:44.000I don't know, except for maybe people who bet on polymarket don't get paid out and are quite upset.
00:09:49.000Also, it feels like when they do this, it's designed to just keep the stress on the public, right?
00:09:55.000Like, before you at least knew that if you went to bed fairly early on election day and you woke up the next morning, you were going to know who the hell was elected.
00:10:02.000Now you don't even have any guarantee that that's what's going to happen.
00:10:19.000I don't think that constitutional rules should be bent just because there's some kind of emergency, because the government will just create emergencies.
00:10:27.000And I think we all kind of agree on that, and we've seen that in the past.
00:10:31.000That being said, if the case is the ballots have to be in by midnight, and if they had stuck to that last time, Donald Trump would be the president.
00:10:41.000So the people that say, oh, this election was either there are people that say, oh, you can call it whatever you want, but it was a novel system being used.
00:10:53.000And by that standard, Joe Biden is a totally unconstitutional president.
00:10:58.000The thing that I'm a little confused about is it says that they're violating federal law, but they don't actually block it.
00:11:04.000And so there's the question about whether or not this, as applied, actually has any impact on the 2024 election, unless, I guess, as Tim was saying, it gets escalated to the Supreme Court.
00:11:18.000And if the Supreme Court ratifies the Fifth Circuit ruling here, if they then go the extra step of blocking it, but they simply keep it as is, And say it's a violation of federal law, but for whatever process reason, it won't go into effect until the next election cycle, then it may avoid this Civil War scenario that Tim's laying out.
00:11:40.000If they haven't specified it, then I imagine the scenario that Tim lays out is...
00:12:29.000We were talking yesterday, I think it was about Brazil, how many people are in Brazil and how fast they know the results of the election.
00:12:37.000Unless it's literally hair's breadth close, there's no reason they can't forecast it.
00:12:43.000And if the ballots that get in by midnight are the only ones that count, then you could probably pretty accurately predict what's going to come out.
00:12:57.000Why anyone would want to not see this outcome is weird.
00:13:02.000Because they want to be able to cheat.
00:14:04.000Glenn Youngkin, the governor, is absolutely livid over this, and rightly so.
00:14:09.000But the Justice Department, the crooked Merrick Garland criminal mafia squad that currently occupies that building, has forced illegal voters back on the voting rolls.
00:14:23.000Less than two weeks before the election.
00:14:24.000So, I mean, I wouldn't overthink this.
00:14:27.000Their job is to try to pad as much as possible in order to do a come from behind red mirage blue shift type event like they did in 2020.
00:15:21.000And that's not even a big, powerful legal apparatus.
00:15:23.000It was Tea Party members were getting investigated by the IRS for ridiculous reasons.
00:15:28.000Well, look at the Georgia situation, right?
00:15:29.00019 of Trump's allies, including Trump himself, were rolled up by the criminal justice system for an alternative electors scheme, right?
00:15:41.000That was the exact same thing that the Democrats did in 2016.
00:15:44.000They actually got 13 votes in the Democrat Congress to go ahead with an alternate elector scheme.
00:15:52.000They were game doing that in 2020 with a group called the Transition Integrity Project.
00:15:55.000But when the Republicans tried it, because they controlled the Justice Department, they simply arrested them.
00:16:00.000They called it a civil, they called it a RICO scam when Republicans did it.
00:16:04.000It's just like when there are protests that turn violent on the Republican side, that's called domestic terrorism and, you know, 20 year felony conspiracy charge.
00:16:14.000But when they do it, it's good trouble.
00:16:15.000So it all comes down to who controls the Justice Department.
00:16:18.000Is it possible to have it so nobody controls it?
00:16:28.000It's always going to be run by people.
00:16:30.000And even if you go and say something like, oh, well, someday it's going to be AI, there's going to be someone that programs the AI. You cannot get rid of the inherent bias from human beings.
00:16:44.000It's one of the reasons why when they talk about draining the swamp, I always kind of side-eye it because the idea is like even if you get rid of top brass in every government organization, they trained the people under them who a lot of times share the same belief systems that they do and a lot of times vote the same way or part of the same party that they do.
00:17:02.000It's not so simple as to just find some corrupt politicians, find corrupt government officials.
00:17:09.000It's been cycled downwards through the process of vetting, hiring and everything like that.
00:17:15.000It's impossible to really make that change in one fell swoop.
00:17:19.000The Blob has increasingly made, our foreign policy establishment has increasingly made prosecutions and control over justice departments in countries all over the world a linchpin of our diplomacy strategy.
00:17:32.000Everyone right now can go to Google and look up a term called transitional justice, which is basically now a State Department doctrine that's based on as soon as one of our supported political movements wins an election, Everyone can go to journalofdemocracy
00:18:03.000And if you go to the Wikipedia, sorry to cut you off, but if you go to the Wikipedia, it says transitional justice is a process which responds to human rights violations.
00:18:12.000So automatically they're saying that this is because they're clearly the bad people.
00:18:17.000What it's about is when the State Department or CIA-backed political movement in a particular country or region narrowly wins an election, that's usually the result of tens of or hundreds of millions of dollars of support from U.S. government-funded NGOs or U.S. government institutions, and that's expensive that's usually the result of tens of or hundreds of millions of
00:18:36.000The easiest way is to simply knock out the other party entirely so that you can achieve democratic stability, i.e. a permanent auto win for the CIA-backed political movement there or political regime because everyone else from the opposing party is purged and in jail.
00:18:52.000And that is what transitional justice is about.
00:18:54.000We set up the same thing in Ukraine, by the way, when we controlled the prosecutors there as Joe Biden himself testified to the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:19:28.000He wrote 10 articles of impeachment for Trump, I think his first year in office behind the Russiagate, the Trump impeachment, the Trump trials.
00:19:37.000He started off as a U.S. ambassador to the Czech Republic.
00:19:40.000And one of his claims to fame there was basically suggesting, you know, who, and when a State Department ambassador suggests to a foreign government, you know, who they should prosecute, that message is received.
00:19:55.000you're coming with the full force of the u.s federal government the humanitarian aid the civil society support the carrots and sticks that a diplomat can offer in order to purge that country's political opposition and you see them do this time and time again it works so effectively in in europe the state department teamed up with the george soros anti-corruption ngos to create this whole whirlwind news cycle so that they were stigmatized so that was easier for the justice department to roll them up
00:20:22.000it worked so well in europe that when trump rose to power here in 2016 they simply applied the same playbook with the same networks what kind of What context are you talking about in Europe, just to clarify?
00:20:31.000These anti-corruption probes that are set up where the State Department will back-channel with the criminal justice system there, their version of the Justice Department.
00:20:42.000And participate in these probes to roll up the State Department's political adversaries in the region.
00:20:48.000And there's a great article if you want to pull it up.
00:20:50.000It's on journalofdemocracy.org, which is effectively the CIA's in-house journal.
00:20:55.000It's the in-house journal for the National Endowment for Democracy, which was set up in 1983 by the CIA director at the time to get back the powers that the CIA had lost under the Carter administration and the Church Committee hearings of the 1970s.
00:21:08.000And if you just look up on journalofdemocracy.org, Poland Transitional Justice or Poland Donald Tusk Stamp Out Populism, any of those keywords will get you there.
00:21:19.000And you will see the CIA's in-house journal tell the newly elected Polish government this year, December 2023, less than a year ago, a list of names for them to throw in jail from the party that was just in power.
00:21:35.000This is the playbook for American statecraft around the world, and that is why the driving force behind all this at home comes from that same State Department DOD CIA network.
00:22:35.000We take this whole apparatus for overthrowing communist governments and for stopping terrorist insurgency groups who want to topple a government that we install in Afghanistan or Iraq, and we simply do it to duly elected, democratically elected governments in the U.S., in...
00:22:56.000In Brazil with Bolsonaro, this is why the CIA director personally went down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro before the election because he was casting doubt on the hypothetical future election results.
00:23:15.000That's why Marine Le Pen is being indicted.
00:23:17.000We did the same thing with the Vox party in Spain.
00:23:19.000That's why so many of them are getting indicted.
00:23:22.000The same thing with the AFD party, the populist party in Germany.
00:23:27.000That's why their party is on the precipice of being banned by the German parliament, because populism is the only thing that can stand against globalism.
00:23:36.000And you have these international markets, you have these banks and these multinational corporations who effectively work with the political arm to staff the State Department, to staff the CIA, to staff the DOD.
00:23:48.000They go out and do the dirty work, and then they get cushy seven-figure jobs.
00:23:52.000As soon as they leave office, they go from making $200, $300K at DOD or CIA to making seven figures, like Mark Milley at J.P. Morgan, or like Jared Cohen at Goldman Sachs now.
00:24:05.000They all move into this space because they have put favors in the favor bank for the bankers, and that's the function of the blob.
00:24:12.000I want to ask you guys, we have this story from the Washington Examiner we brought up the other day, but we had a conversation on the Culture War podcast this morning, youtube.com slash Tim Cash.
00:24:20.000Check it out about the fear of civil war with this upcoming election.
00:24:25.000Fortitude Ranch, which is a network of off the grid prepper resorts, they describe it as, has issued a call to their to their members to come to these facilities on Election Day if they live in highly volatile areas.
00:24:41.000Do you think or I'd ask the panel, do you think that this is a they're just hyping it up because it's their opportunity to market when people are freaked out?
00:24:51.000Or are they trying to intentionally downplay it out of fear that they don't want to spark a panic by saying, quick, everybody get to the bunkers.
00:24:57.000Considering the story that we just saw where the Fifth Circuit Court ruled that votes that arrive after Election Day are in violation of the law and the potential.
00:25:07.000And I say it's a potential because I don't know what happens, that this leads to a scenario where Kamala wins, but only by ballots received the next day in the in the wee hours of the morning, much like Joe Biden did.
00:25:17.000And then Democrats claim victory, Republicans claim victory, and then we actually end up with some kind of...
00:25:25.000I'm curious with you, Mike, here, what do you think we see, especially considering everything you know about the deep state and the intelligence apparatus, how will they respond and is there a potential for some kind of greater escalation?
00:25:36.000Well, if you play the Jamie Raskin clip, the very influential congressman around, you know, him gloating, it doesn't matter who Trump supporters vote for.
00:25:46.000They can vote all they like for Trump because the fact is we're going to stop it on January 6th, 2025.
00:25:52.000We are going to simply not certify the election by invoking the 14th Amendment.
00:26:00.000He's not going to get inaugurated because we'll stop him on January 6th, 2025.
00:26:04.000Now, this is very interesting because it's a direct match of the Transition Integrity Project blueprint for the 2020 election, where they simulated an ability to stop a clear...
00:26:17.000To stop a clear Trump win by provoking a breakdown of Congress on January 6th to stop the certification of the election.
00:26:34.000It's going to be up to us on January 6, 2025, to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified.
00:26:42.000And then we need bodyguards for everybody in civil war conditions.
00:26:47.000All because the nine justices, not all of them, but simply do not want to do their job.
00:26:54.000What he has just said there is worse than what...
00:26:56.000Anybody, any words that were ever said by Donald Trump at that rally?
00:27:00.000So this is an event at something in Pro's bookstore.
00:27:05.000I believe it was in D.C. He said that they will not certify, that on January 6, 2025, they're going to assert that Trump is ineligible under the 14th Amendment Section 3.
00:27:48.000But listen to what he's – the way he tees it up, listen to how self-aware he is about the magnitude of this.
00:27:55.000He says – he's insinuating Trump supporters are going to be pissed.
00:27:59.000They're going to be rampaging Trump mobs because to their shock and horror, he – When he wins the election, we're going to stop it on January 6th.
00:28:08.000So that's why we need this big military FBI apparatus in order to arrest them all to stop the civil war conditions that we know that we are going to provoke because we're going to rob them of the election at the 11th hour.
00:28:21.000We are going to stop the certification of a duly elected president for democracy.
00:28:27.000And he's saying because the Supreme Court did not rule that he's disqualified, it now falls on Congress to do it 14 days before inauguration.
00:28:35.000You say this guy's getting marching orders from international NGOs and things?
00:28:40.000It's a consensus-building process, and Jamie Raskin is in the dead thick of it.
00:28:49.000If you follow Brookings or you follow the Atlantic Council Networks or you follow the Transition Integrity Project Networks or the nonviolent civic resistance movement networks, they've been wargaming this stuff for months.
00:28:59.000They wargamed it for almost an entire year before the 2020 election.
00:29:04.000It's the same group that's back again.
00:29:06.000You can pull up the Guardian article by Rosa Brooks just a few months ago that goes over this.
00:29:10.000So is your sense that on, say, January 20th, if Trump does win clearly in the election, is your sense that on January 20th Trump will be inaugurated or no?
00:29:20.000Well, if he wins on November 5th, it's going to set up this scenario that we're now talking about with Jamie Raskin.
00:29:29.000This period between November 5th and January 6th is going to be extremely intense.
00:29:34.000If Trump wins, you are going to see—my sense is that you will see street paramilitary— Left wing slash never Trump, right even potentially.
00:29:48.000You're going to see this sort of summer of love, summer 2020 style riot force start to break out on the streets.
00:29:57.000The media is going to portray them as pro-democracy groups.
00:30:01.000Who are protesting the illegitimacy of the Trump Electoral College victory.
00:30:21.000You're going to see this crisis response.
00:30:24.000It's going to feel like this country is...
00:30:26.000It's going to feel like the day after January 6th.
00:30:29.000For two months, if Trump does indeed win the Electoral College, in order for them to prime the pump for their extraordinary actions on January 6th.
00:30:38.000So they're saying that because of the January 6th insurrection, that somehow under the 14th Amendment means that he is not eligible to become president and that Congress will have to enact that?
00:30:49.000Is that why they've spent so long over the last however many years To push the idea of insurrection in the media because for the public to fall in line with this, they have to believe because they've been duly told by the mainstream media that that is what happened.
00:31:03.000Even though there was no prosecution for that, they'll just fall in line and believe it.
00:31:07.000Which is part of the reason why I said that the whole going back to calling Trump Hitler in the past week or so, the point of that isn't to convince people about voting.
00:31:16.000It's just to prime the landscape for people to feel like Trump is a danger.
00:31:21.000And now let's read Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
00:31:49.000But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each house, remove such disability.
00:31:52.000The important factor there is nowhere does it say a president can't be president if they wage insurrection.
00:31:58.000Many people argue that it says hold any office, or as an officer of the United States, but that, I believe, the legal precedent so far was that it does not include the president.
00:32:07.000And the reason for that was, we have the 14th Amendment because of the Civil War.
00:32:11.000And the idea was you're not going to represent a state or be in Congress if you were a part of this insurrection.
00:32:20.000But the president was different because to get elected president would mean that the union states would have a say in whether or not you were president in the first place.
00:32:28.000The argument is if Virginia wanted to send a senator, the union says, nope, that person waged war against us.
00:33:03.000No one was ever convicted of any kind of insurrection or any kind of—Trump was never convicted under J6. They tried him in—they impeached him, and he was acquitted.
00:33:15.000As Redyard Lynch said the last time he was on the show, both sides believe they are morally justified and are simply looking for plausible deniability to enact their force.
00:33:25.000Now, personally, I think right now, if Trump wins the Electoral College, he wins.
00:33:29.000But they've been repeatedly making the argument that the Electoral College is illegitimate and the Supreme Court is illegitimate.
00:33:51.000You know, these ethics probes against Clarence Thomas.
00:33:53.000They're, you know, they're opening up the lines of attack against Kavanaugh again.
00:33:57.000They're talking about the repercussions on the court and stacking it to basically try to put a kind of conflict in the Supreme Court individual members minds that if they go against this apparatus as this gets litigated, there will be personal consequences for them.
00:34:17.000People may think this sounds far-fetched, but Schumer himself said that if you go against the intelligence apparatus, they have nine ways to Sunday to take care of you or whatever.
00:34:29.000I don't remember the exact quote that he had.
00:34:31.000But the point being, this isn't something that is...
00:34:36.000A secret in Washington, even if people don't think that they would do it to the United States, or they would do it here, everyone is pretty aware that CIA works in these ways in other countries.
00:34:50.000Like, most people are aware that CIA has had effects on a lot of other countries' elections and the governments of a lot of other countries.
00:34:59.000Tip of the spear for the Transition Integrity Project that I just laid out here is Rosa Brooks, who is the Undersecretary of Defense for Obama and held a CIA blue badge.
00:35:07.000It's literally CIA, DOD, state every single time.
00:35:16.000And they're centered by a company called USAID or an organization.
00:35:19.000You've talked a lot about this is like the brain of the blob.
00:35:23.000Well, USAID isn't the brain of the blob.
00:35:25.000USAID is just like, it's essentially a CIA front.
00:35:27.000Yeah, it's a capacity builder for the assets.
00:35:30.000Now, USAID, in this case, USAID, what they do a lot of the times is they will fund these so-called nonviolent civil resistance movements, which this is a technique for overthrowing a government where...
00:35:43.000There's two ways you can overthrow a government.
00:35:45.000One of them is a top-down military coup.
00:35:47.000You basically bribe a sufficient quorum of the country's military brass and then they control the tanks and so they can simply topple the government through military force or threats of military force.
00:36:04.000But the main way we do this now are so-called people-powered revolutions.
00:36:08.000They have a sort of patina of democracy to them where the State Department and USAID will capacity build.
00:36:15.000They will run hundreds of millions of dollars to astroturf a political movement in a country.
00:36:20.000And part of the linchpin of this are street protests that create a kind of anarcho-tyranny force on the streets that will break up meetings, that will block highways, that will block transportation, that will shut down industrial industries.
00:36:34.000They'll do mass walkouts for the miners, for the hospital workers.
00:36:38.000They will surround parliament buildings or occupy federal buildings.
00:36:44.000The idea is media then reports on that as being what the people really want because they're the ones who are out on the street demanding the government and power transition to a new government to be responsive to the people because this is democracy.
00:36:58.000Not reporting on the fact that these people are all being funded by the U.S. government.
00:37:02.000They're being funded by USAID, funded by state, and directed through their leaders by intelligence-backed channels.
00:37:12.000And then when the police respond to these people throwing Molotov cocktails in police cars, that gets called an authoritarian crackdown.
00:37:20.000And so that then allows the U.S. government and its international partners to put sanctions on that government in order to economically cripple them, in order to put the people into further deprivation, where they're now even angrier at the government.
00:37:32.000And the government has less money to pay the police or the military to contain these CIA, USAID-funded Riots on the streets, but they call it nonviolent civil resistance.
00:37:44.000This is the same thing we saw in 2020.
00:37:47.000This whole framing technique around calling it a protest, not a riot.
00:37:52.000Even though everyone sees everything's on fire, but you call it mostly peaceful because that's how you salvage the...
00:38:00.000The diplomatic norms and standards around it being a pro-democracy movement rather than an act of friggin' terrorism.
00:38:06.000Do you think that it's being turned on the United States right now?
00:38:09.000He's literally articulating how it is, yes.
00:38:11.000That's what you've been talking about.
00:38:13.000Because that makes me think it's not an American thing, this this USAID thing, because if they're willing to create a civil war in the United States with the same technique to overthrow the government, what that's it's why would our own country do that to ourselves?
00:38:27.000Or is it controlled by literally by the Bank for International Settlements in order to stamp out populism to achieve democratic stability because no one can run against them?
00:38:29.000settlements in order to stamp out populism to achieve democratic stability because no one can run against them.
00:38:36.000Let's jump to this next story from The Guardian.
00:38:38.000The Washington Post and LA Times refused to endorse a candidate.
00:39:05.000The Washington Post has done it since 1980.
00:39:07.000Outside looking in, it feels like if any organization should avoid attempting to endorse any candidate, it should be the people who have been screaming about their supposed lack of bias for the last two decades.
00:39:50.000When he released the Twitter statement saying that they're not endorsing this time, he simultaneously released the internal polling data around how the rank and file who they would have endorsed.
00:40:02.000And I believe it was something like 6535 that they would have endorsed Trump.
00:40:05.000So it's very easy to say, well, listen, they wanted to endorse Trump, but they can't do it for political reasons because they don't want to piss off the Democrats.
00:40:12.000But in this case, it's kind of the reverse because both the L.A. Times and The Washington Post rank and file wanted to endorse Kamala.
00:40:20.000But at the last minute, the owners of the institutions stepped in and said, no, we're overriding what the staff want.
00:40:27.000As the owner of this magazine, I am not going to allow you to put this out, making this political endorsement.
00:40:35.000So at both times, the staff actually wanted to endorse Kamala, but were stopped by the owners.
00:40:40.000This is, by the way, very interesting.
00:40:42.000They did endorse Jimmy Carter in 1980.
00:41:03.000But I'll tell you, there was a post from, I think it was Dave Rubin, that he was driving in an Uber and the guy was saying he's like a liberal area.
00:41:33.000And wait, wait, and who's Victoria Nuland?
00:41:37.000Victoria Nuland was the Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasian Affairs.
00:41:41.000Basically the angel of death toppling country after country all over Europe, particularly Central and Eastern Europe.
00:41:51.000She was the one who was caught on the hot mic with Jeff Pyatt, the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, when we overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014, saying, F the EU.
00:42:01.000We're going to install this new president, Yatsenyuk.
00:42:03.000It doesn't matter what the Ukrainians want.
00:42:06.000We get to pick the puppet president here.
00:42:08.000Victoria Nuland was personally handing out water bottles and cookies to the rioters that the State Department had pumped $5 billion into in order to orchestrate those rental riots.
00:42:21.000She's basically the color revolution queen of the Europe desk.
00:42:27.000Since she left the State Department, she's now moved over to be a board member at the National Endowment for Democracy, which we were just talking about, the CIA cutout, which was created effectively by the CIA director in 1983.
00:42:41.000But here's another great data point on this random WAPO editor at large who they omit is actually Victoria Newland's husband.
00:42:49.000If you guys want to read a great quote, because I talk a lot about the blob.
00:42:52.000I've talked, you know, I said it earlier in our conversation here.
00:42:56.000It means the U.S. foreign policy establishment and its Department of Dirty Tricks.
00:42:59.000If you go to Google right now and you type in Robert Kagan in the phrase, love the blob from Brookings the week before the 2020 election.
00:43:09.000Respect the blob, we'll get there as well.
00:44:09.000I mean, if you've got a lot of money...
00:44:10.000I mean, I understand the point of the...
00:44:11.000What I'm saying is if you've got a lot of money, you give money to everybody.
00:44:14.000So that way you have favors, or at least can hopefully get favors, but...
00:44:18.000Remember, Amazon is a major, major, major military contractor.
00:44:23.000They have a $10 billion contract, I believe, with the NSA alone.
00:44:27.000They also, I think, provide Amazon Cloud or Amazon...
00:44:32.000I think it's their Cloud contract with the CIA. There's so many military sort of intelligent statecraft connective tissue between the Bezos Empire and the...
00:44:46.000The blob, the military defense statecraft apparatus, that you have to make political donations in order to—I mean, it's a tacit pay-to-play.
00:44:56.000And I think in this case, Bezos has felt burned by the Kamala—the whole sort of Biden-Harris— In fact, Zuckerberg feels the same way.
00:45:10.000You've noticed Sergey Brin and Larry Page from Google have been very silent this election.
00:45:14.000A lot of the people, they're milking them.
00:45:16.000Google went all out for Biden-Harris, and their reward was, you know, the Justice Department is now breaking them up.
00:45:25.000Zuckerberg went all out for Biden-Harris.
00:45:27.000The reward is that they got coerced and shaken down on censorship, and then they were left high and dry by the Biden State Department when it came to the EU Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act.
00:45:43.000Just so you know, I'm not making this term up, the blob.
00:45:45.000This is literally how they refer to themselves.
00:45:49.000It was coined by Ben Rhodes, the Deputy National Security Advisor for the Obama Administration, because of the Obama White House's frustration that this force within Washington was more powerful than the Obama White House.
00:46:31.000When Raytheon or Boeing or BlackRock or JP Morgan wants a policy in government, they sponsor the so-called think tanks to do it, and then everyone gets their cushy sinecure there as a career path.
00:46:43.000So Brookings is the number one top dog in town for that.
00:46:46.000And one week before the 2020 election, there was a list of 20 policy experts, their advice to the next incoming president.
00:48:41.000It is true that our generation – I don't think it's fair to say we or everyone because there's certainly a lot of people in this country who have had hard times and been homeless and some people are drug addicted.
00:48:48.000But largely conflict-free for the Gen Xer and the millennials having to deal with relatively little – I say relatively little because, of course, we did have Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:48:59.000But now – After the 90s, 90s were great, things are starting to get gradually worse, and it is because we have a generation, millennials largely, who, wow, don't know how to work hard and accomplish this.
00:49:12.000So did the blob keep the American populace in like a glass cage and just kind of keep them soft for the last 20 years, and now they're getting prepared to turn something in on them?
00:49:26.000I mean, the fact is, is conservatives never experienced this before, but liberals did.
00:49:31.000I mean, certainly the populist left was being persecuted by the blob from the 1950s through the 1970s.
00:49:39.000This is what gave rise to the church committee hearings.
00:49:41.000This is what gave rise to Jimmy Carter in his Halloween massacre, laying off 30 percent of the CIA in a single day, slashing their budget.
00:49:50.000That's what resulted in Ronald Reagan resurrecting them through the National Endowment for Democracy in this new pro-democracy public program that has supplanted much of the old work the CIA did.
00:50:03.000It's happening to the populist right now.
00:50:07.000And it's never happened to the right before in terms of the blob targeting it because the right was always the party of war and big business because you had these – when we created this in 1947, 1948.
00:50:26.000Democrats always had the media, the universities, you know, academia, culture, movies, Hollywood, unions.
00:50:37.000The only counterweight to that on the Republican side is that the Republicans had the military, the energy companies, you know, they had the military, the oil companies, and they had the Chamber of Commerce, the corporations.
00:50:51.000The corporations were Republican because Republicans were low taxes, free markets, free enterprise.
00:50:58.000And so the blob served in large part, not exclusively, but in large part, the sort of Republican side of that equation in the This was the 20th century how we built our empire.
00:51:15.000Marxist or communist or communist sympathizing countries would systematically have their governments overthrown so that we could privatize their industry and multinational corporations who were Republican leaning would get export markets for all their goods and services, would be able to extract the natural resources of an oil company, would be able to extract the natural resources of an oil company, a gas company, a copper, aluminum, agriculture, you
00:51:37.000And so what the CIA and DOD were doing in the scandals from the 50s to the 70s is they were trying to stop the Democrat Party, the populist left side of it.
00:51:49.000The limousine liberal class was cozy with the right wing chamber of commerce class, but there was a civil war on the left between the limousine liberal, basically, you know, hedge fund and Wall Street types and the sort of new left identitarian groups, the ones who were hedge fund and Wall Street types and the sort of new left identitarian groups, the ones who were against NATO overthrowing governments
00:52:14.000And so what the CIA did then is it was targeting that that populist side of the left in order to bring the Democrat Party into the.
00:52:24.000Into unison, so that we're back to Coke and Pepsi.
00:52:26.000And so this is how you add things like Operation Chaos.
00:52:29.000Yes, they named it that, just like they named it Fast and Furious and Crossfire Hurricane.
00:52:36.000But Operation Chaos, for example, you had the CIA bribing student groups on college campuses, paying the National Students Association in order to...
00:52:49.000Stop people from believing ideologically in populist left and bring them into a sort of limousine liberal mentality.
00:52:57.000You had them working with the unions, you had them infiltrating the music groups, and all of this was designed to stop the populist left.
00:53:03.000And the reaction to that was the Church Committee hearings in 1975 and 1976 were Where you had all these Democrats who were in power in Congress and they exposed a huge amount of scandals there.
00:53:15.000The heart attack gun that Frank Church held up, where the CIA was assassinating people like Lumumba in Congo and Allende and Chile.
00:53:26.000That's what gave us the House Intelligence Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee.
00:53:30.000There was no oversight of the CIA until enough Democrats got pissed that they didn't have control of their own party because the CIA was overthrowing it.
00:53:37.000But it didn't hit Republicans until 2016, and it's unclear if there's a way to...
00:53:44.000It seems to be harder now on us than it was, frankly, on much to the left.
00:53:48.000Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial.
00:53:51.000Undecided voters lean Trump after suffering from Hitler fatigue.
00:53:57.000I think part of the reason why I'm being pushed towards Trump so strongly is I find the Democrats on the left keep going straight to Hitler all the time with everything.
00:54:04.000So in the same lifetime now, when people go to movies, they talk about superhero fatigue.
00:54:09.000So we now have superhero fatigue and Hitler fatigue at the same time.
00:54:13.000When Kamala Harris came out and said Donald Trump said he wanted generals like Hitler, I tweeted, this is going to boost Trump in the polls.
00:54:19.000Because we're at the point now where a lot of moderates are just like, oh, you know what?
00:54:31.000This is supposed to be a Transformers sequel where it's like, okay, we've got all these crazy Trump scandals.
00:54:36.000Grab them by the, you know, they were doing the Trump-Hitler stuff in 2015.
00:54:42.0002015, they were saying he's got quotes of Mein Kampf on his dresser and some ex-girlfriend 30 years ago said Not only this, the quote about wanting generals was published in 2022.
00:54:53.000So The Atlantic publishes a story acting like it's new, but it came out years ago, and it was debunked.
00:54:59.000They've got an anonymous source who claims it happened, and then two on-the-record sources saying it didn't happen.
00:55:04.000So by any journalistic standards, it did not happen.
00:55:07.000When they rolled it out, they said, and there's an audio, it hasn't been published yet, but there's an audio, the same thing they said about Trump saying the N-word in an elevator, you know, one day.
00:55:52.000This was 2018 Huffington Post saying somewhere at some point Trump may have done something and someone may have recorded it.
00:55:59.000We don't know what he may have done, where it might have been, who might have recorded it, and no one's ever seen any evidence of this happening.
00:56:28.000No, what I'm saying, what it works on is that the average person who just would have been undecided but doesn't really like the guy, they're left with the negative impression because all they're hit with daily is negative stories.
00:57:38.000And if it's not the left pushing Hitler, it's the right pushing Stalin.
00:57:42.000I mean, the right's not really pushing Stalin, but whatever.
00:57:44.000Well, I mean, they say communism in general.
00:57:47.000And that's also different because when they talk about the left doing it, they're talking about not just politicians, but the mainstream press, which is able to signal boost this far greater than right-wing media, which is confined to smaller networks, Fox, I guess.
00:58:00.000But also a lot of it's going on on X for right-wing politics, whereas the left is more mainstream.
00:58:42.000Anytime I see, whether it be Bill Kristol or any of the cohorts, I'm just like, I can't believe these guys are actually allowed to speak in public.
00:59:06.000name appears in the UK inner cluster cell of the Integrity Initiative, which is this big British intelligence op to start censoring the internet in 2015, where they told in the instruction manuals to be helpfully uninformative about sources of funding for the organization as they were recruiting into their, quote, inner where they told in the instruction manuals to be helpfully uninformative about sources of funding for the organization as they were recruiting into their, quote, inner cluster cell, high-ranking members of a country's military journalism class, regulators, captains of industry, in
00:59:38.000And then it was busted when all these documents leaked, and so it shut down in disgrace.
00:59:42.000And lo and behold, Ann Applebaum's name is in the UK inner cluster cell that you specify which documents are referring to.
01:00:13.000And I've been thinking it's a bit of a zoom out from inside the blob where we are to BRICS. And we can stay focused on this, too, but I want to know, is BRICS like another blob?
01:00:23.000And if so, BRICS is Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
01:00:29.000It's another economic order that's been growing over the last decade.
01:00:33.000I don't know how long it's been around, but...
01:01:02.000You can't even make a pencil in the United States without getting the erasers from gum trees in Malaysia and graphite from mines in South America.
01:01:11.000You need to interact in the world in order to have goods and services.
01:01:15.000The State Department, for example, is the first thing we set up in the U.S. government.
01:01:19.000In 1789, we formed only three government agencies, the State Department, the Department of War, which is now the Department of Defense, and the U.S. Treasury.
01:01:29.000I mean, it's your founding government agency.
01:01:32.000And so the moment you have that, You need an apparatus to get your way in the world with other countries.
01:01:40.000And so the intelligence services are folded into it.
01:01:50.000You need a foreign-facing operations corps who is able to exert leverage, who is able to do intelligence, who is able to run operations.
01:01:59.000But China does that mostly through economic soft power, through what is sometimes called debt trap diplomacy, but oftentimes it's just simply trade.
01:02:12.000Europe, for example, now does more trade with China than with the U.S. They overtook them, I believe, in 2020.
01:02:19.000China has gotten huge influence over Africa through building their ports, building their roads, building their public health, building their infrastructure.
01:02:29.000And in return, the African governments vote their way in multilateral institutions, vote their way in the UN. It's a favors-to-favors relationship.
01:02:38.000Now, the U.S. dollar has been one of the main mechanisms for U.S. economic soft power projection, a way to get influence over foreign governments because they are dependent on the U.S. dollar.
01:02:52.000Dollar supremacy has been one of the ways that we have led the world order.
01:02:58.000As China has risen economically and China has developed partners all around the world in Brexit nations and beyond, They are competing now against the dollar to dislodge it as the sort of economic currency primacy coin of the realm.
01:03:18.000We've seen Saudi Arabia, for example, signal it's not going to renew the petrodollar and that it's going to use a basket of currencies that may be led by the Chinese renminbi.
01:03:26.000I do think it's interesting that news just today broke that Brazil just blocked Venezuela from joining BRICS, which I find very interesting because the State Department worked assiduously to rig the Brazilian election, to censor every Bolsonaro supporter on every social media platform, plus all the encrypted chat apps, ran this whole operation.
01:03:48.000The State Department backchannel with Taiwan in order to get electronic voting machines into Brazil against the will of the Brazilian prime minister.
01:03:57.000The Defense Department, Lloyd Austin, swooped down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro.
01:04:01.000The CIA Director, Bill Burns, personally flew down to Brazil to threaten Bolsonaro.
01:04:05.000The State Department diverted semiconductor chips meant for the U.S. just to get more electronic voting machines into Brazil, even though the government of Brazil didn't want it.
01:04:20.000By the way, Lula was named Man of the Year by the union arm of the National Endowment for Democracy, the CI, so make of that what you will.
01:04:27.000And then Lula comes in just today and is seen as backstabbing Venezuela.
01:04:33.000A lot of people thought that this would go through with Venezuela being joined with BRICS because everyone accused Lula of being a communist and Maduro is a communist in Venezuela.
01:04:45.000But at the 11th hour, Lula backstabs Maduro and says, actually, you're not going to be allowed in BRICS. I wonder if the State Department called in favors to their little puppet in Brazil, Lula, and in exchange for basically getting into power and helping him consolidate power, He, you know, takes out one of their adversary states whose government the State Department is trying to overthrow.
01:05:08.000You conceive that Brazil will leave BRICS then?
01:05:48.000Again, Most countries do more trade with China, so the Chinese Ministry of Affairs has a larger pull on those countries than the US. I ran into that at State when I was at the International Telecommunications Union at State Department Cyber.
01:06:03.000All 40 countries or so in the African Union systematically vote with China for what they want on telecom, and there's almost nothing we can do to convince them, because how do you argue against the fact that China is their economic lifeline?
01:06:16.000All you can do at that point is either bribe them with more money and we're spread too thin with all of our other operations around the world or threaten them.
01:06:24.000And there's only so much you can threaten them before they turn even more to China to offset those threats.
01:06:29.000Let's jump to the next big global news.
01:06:32.000Israel has begun its retaliatory strikes on Iran, sources say.
01:06:37.000We actually have the statement from Iran now.
01:06:40.000In response to months of continuous attacks from the regime in Iran against the state of Israel, right now the Israel Defense Forces is conducting precise strikes on military targets in Iran.
01:06:56.000The regime in Iran and its proxies in the region have been relentlessly attacking Israel since October 7th on seven fronts, including direct attacks from Iranian soil.
01:07:09.000Like every other sovereign country in the world, the State of Israel has the right and the duty to respond.
01:07:17.000Our defensive and offensive capabilities are fully mobilized.
01:07:23.000We will do whatever necessary to defend the state of Israel and the people of Israel.
01:07:30.000Do you think that when they recorded that, they all looked at it and said, this is a good speech?
01:07:36.000And intentionally were like, yeah, I like the way he said it, because I feel like it was very uninspired and weak.
01:07:44.000I wonder if Israel was like, we don't want someone who's strong, angry, smoking a cigarette saying, we're going to bomb you.
01:07:50.000Maybe they wanted a guy who looks a little more less aggressive and intimidating, considering the fact that there is widespread war in the region.
01:07:59.000I don't think Mossad and the IDF are stupid when it comes to PR. I think they're very good at relations.
01:08:06.000The metaphor is they are being attacked.
01:08:19.000Yeah, I think it's, you know, trying to be diplomatic, understated, somewhat vague about the extent of it, but trying to – I mean, this is standard statecraft.
01:08:31.000I mean, if you listen to a State Department, you know, presser, it has a very similar tone, which is that it's sort of short, concise to the point.
01:08:40.000There's – you don't give, you know, a five, ten-minute soliloquy on it because everything you say, it's almost like when you – It's almost like when you are at a deposition, you try to make your answers as short and tight as possible so that there's nothing to poke at.
01:08:56.000Well, so the news we have here is that several explosions were heard in Tehran on Saturday morning, local time.
01:09:01.000And so I guess, I mean, this could lead to very serious escalation.
01:09:07.000I mean, we're looking at escalation, but I'm wondering if this will put Trump in a position where if he wins, there will be a war that's already begun, something he can't stop.
01:09:18.000I did mention, I asked before the show if this is like they're doing this in Israel because there's no leadership in the United States.
01:09:25.000Hyperbolically, Biden is very weak as a leader, you know, unfortunately.
01:09:30.000And now they're just taking the initiative.
01:09:35.000And they're going to put the situation in their court if they can.
01:09:38.000I don't know, but that's sure what it seems like.
01:09:40.000I mean, everyone knew this was coming because of the attacks on Israel that happened, what is it, two weeks ago, a week and a half ago or something like that.
01:10:05.000I was just surprised that it took this long.
01:10:07.000Well, it literally leaked like three days ago that these highly classified documents of the Israeli intended attack plan against Iran leaked.
01:10:17.000It was a huge international incident, actually, because it's unclear who leaked it.
01:10:22.000There are allegations around some of these sort of Iranian-adjacent members of the National Security Council.
01:10:30.000We're in charge of the intelligence portfolio that may have leaked this in order to stop this from happening.
01:10:40.000But to Tim's question about, you know, how Trump, how a change in government here will impact the course of events there, I do think that much of what we're seeing right now with the extent of the Israeli military excursions I do think that much of what we're seeing right now with the extent of the Israeli military excursions into Lebanon and into Gaza and into Iran are a function of
01:11:10.000Which is what really broke apart so much of the of the consistency between Israeli foreign policy and U.S. foreign policy.
01:11:20.000When NATO had this big plan to open up Iran's oil and gas, because after the U.S., Iran sits on, I think, the world's second largest reserves of oil and third largest reserves of gas.
01:11:33.000maybe third and fourth, but it's either second, third and third and fourth.
01:11:36.000Basically, one of the largest oil and gas centers in the entire world.
01:11:40.000But the whole thing has been under sanctions for decades, effectively.
01:11:44.000But under the Obama administration, NATO energy companies began to see an opportunity that if they were to remove the sanctions on Iran and partner with the Iranian government, there would be trillions of dollars in windfall profits if they could simply take that oil and gas, and they would get a cut of it.
01:12:04.000Iran would sell it on the open market to the world, and they would get rich.
01:12:08.000It would be like if an asteroid came to Earth and it contained the galaxy's largest concentration of gold.
01:12:17.000How many gold companies would rush to that?
01:12:19.000If you remove the sanctions, it's like that all opens up.
01:12:22.000So that was what the Iran deal was in 2015.
01:12:24.000And this is what created this giant rift between Israel and the Obama administration.
01:12:29.000Trump's first act in office was getting out of that Iran deal.
01:12:34.000That placated the Israeli side of that, and it greatly angered the NATO side of this.
01:12:42.000And if you remember, our current CIA director, Bill Burns, is the guy who personally negotiated the Iran deal for the Obama administration.
01:12:49.000Because this is a major, effectively, over the course of a decade, a multi-trillion dollar windfall to whoever can open that up.
01:12:57.000The problem is the Israeli government sees that as a massive security threat to Israel.
01:13:02.000And time is not on their side under continuation of a Biden-Harris foreign policy on Iran styled after Obama in 2008 to 2016.
01:13:12.000Because if Iran is allowed to operate, to basically sell its oil and gas on the open market and make hundreds of billions of dollars from that, they will 100x their economy.
01:13:25.000And the idea then is that they would be able to pump up their military proxies, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and militarily overwhelm Israel.
01:13:35.000And so I think a lot of what we're seeing right now is part of this proxy war between Israel and NATO around the economics of Iran.
01:13:44.000And I think that they're hoping for a change in government that will put sanctions back on Iran.
01:13:52.000Right now, Trump stopped China, for example, from getting around those sanctions.
01:13:57.000He threatened China that they were not allowed to trade with Iran on oil and gas.
01:14:05.000Type in China-Iran $400 billion, and you will see the $400 billion deal that was signed.
01:14:11.000$400 billion from China to Iran in March 2021, just two months into office.
01:14:18.000Something China had been waiting the four years of the Trump administration to do.
01:14:22.000in order to have China pump up Iran's economy and get all the oil and gas from there.
01:14:29.000$280 billion for developing Iran's oil, gas, and petrochemical industries.
01:14:33.000$120 billion for upgrading Iran's transportation and manufacturing infrastructure.
01:14:37.00025-year cooperation plan signed in 2021 as a comprehensive agreement between the two nations.
01:14:42.000The program outlines China's investment of $400 billion in Iran over the next 25 years in exchange for a steady supply of oil to fuel China's growing economy.
01:14:51.000Now imagine if the sanctions are lifted and you have the U.S., Germany, the United Kingdom, France.
01:14:59.000And first of all, that also massively threatens Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia's market share goes way down because they have to compete on equal par with Iran globally.
01:15:10.000The price of oil plummets because of the glut of supply on the market.
01:15:14.000This was the basis of the Abraham Accords, is that Israel and Saudi Arabia were drawn into this alliance, Israel on security grounds around the Iran deal, Saudi Arabia on economic grounds because of the Iran deal.
01:15:26.000laid the groundwork for effectively that new peace in the region.
01:15:29.000And it came obviously at the expense of the Iranian economy.
01:15:33.000But you have this larger proxy war playing out around that.
01:15:37.000And I do think that this drastic military action is because Israel sees it needs to make a time sensitive military move on this, because they have been they have felt existentially threatened by the Biden foreign policy.
01:15:49.000So they think that so the Biden foreign policy has been to open up the sanctions again to continue Obama's plan to allow Iran to sell its oil Did he do that during his four years?
01:15:59.000He did not because I think of how much they've been attempting to do this.
01:16:05.000It's one of these—and mind you, Obama did not in his first term either.
01:16:09.000He didn't do it until the second half of his term because there is political blowback from doing that.
01:16:15.000There is a very large, influential Iran hawk fascism.
01:16:20.000Faction both in the Republican Party and also in the Democrat Party.
01:16:25.000And so it does come at a cost of political capital, but it's a huge boon to other sets of donors who would make multi-billion dollar profits from doing so.
01:16:34.000And so there is this tension where you want to time that political action to where there's nothing they can really do to you at the end.
01:16:43.000This happened in 2015, for example, under Obama, but he had been working on it for seven years.
01:16:48.000And so they've been trying to sort of do a Iran deal 2.0.
01:16:54.000But I think part of the problem was, is in doing that, it would send a lot of folks more to the Trump camp who were on the fence about Trump because now they're existentially threatened around this Iran situation.
01:17:06.000But what they've done is they've allowed China to circumvent that.
01:17:11.000And I think that they would do so in a second term or in a Harris term.
01:17:17.000Harris is her short list of national security advisors and National Security Council folks seem like they would want to enter into an Iran deal.
01:17:27.000So it seems like the Israeli government is concerned with either the blob forcing Kamala into office or Likely that sounds what they're afraid of.
01:17:36.000That they're afraid that either she's going to win legitimately or disingenuously somehow that she's going to arrive in office and then sign a new Iran deal.
01:17:45.000But remember, they don't even need to sign it at this point for a lot of this damage to accumulate.
01:17:49.000Iran has already, you know, 20xed its economy versus the Trump years.
01:17:55.000Because remember, not only did Trump get rid of the Iran deal, he also put massive, massive, massive sanctions on all.
01:18:02.000This is the maximum pressure policy that Trump instituted.
01:18:05.000Biden took a huge amount of that back.
01:18:09.000If you remember earlier in the news cycle from about a year and a half ago, two years ago, Biden lifted sanctions, got $8 billion directly to the Iranian government that Trump had held under freeze.
01:18:22.000So Iran has been able to economically thrive under the Biden-Harris White House, even without the Iran deal 2.0.
01:18:31.000But if that were to go through, that would 100x multifold the problem from Israel's perspective.
01:18:37.000And do you think the Israeli then government doesn't, a lot of people, this is all another conspiracy conversation, but just doesn't have that much influence over the blob?
01:18:45.000I think it's a multifactional dispute that's constantly in flux.
01:18:49.000I think one of the things that the Iran deal exposed was NATO won that side of the equation in that fight in 2015.
01:19:43.000The hacker has reportedly targeted the phones of Trump and Vance as they've been campaigning for Election Day.
01:19:50.000According to the New York Times, the hackers are believed to have gotten deep into American communications data and targeted information from the phones of Trump and Vance.
01:19:59.000According to the Times, people familiar with the matter told reporters about the Chinese hackers on Friday, and investigators are working to determine what information they were able to pick up from the phones, if any.
01:20:08.000The Trump campaign was made aware of the hackers this week.
01:20:11.000Information on the phones of Trump and Vance may have data that could potentially put the national security of the United States at risk, as the hacker may be able to obtain contacts, phone calls, and text messages sent and received from Trump as well as Vance.
01:22:34.000Without revealing sources and methods for whatever the classified process would be for making those digital forensic determinations, I need more color than just someone from China did it.
01:22:45.000Because the problem is, is we know from Julian Assange that pocket Putin is a core capacity of the U.S. intelligence hacking syndicate.
01:23:26.000I think the same thing with rockets being fired from a foreign country.
01:23:29.000For all I know, they could have been put there by the country that wants to be fired on.
01:23:32.000So the question then becomes, why bother trusting or distrusting any country if they all do it and we don't know which is which?
01:23:38.000I think more is, I think that the public needs to demand much more robust reporting when it comes to cyber activity than what they're being fed.
01:23:49.000Because hacking is a totally classified realm.
01:23:53.000You are either a hacker for the CIA, the NSA, or the FBI, or you are a felon.
01:24:00.000That's the only two jobs in town for hacking.
01:24:03.000It's either massively illegal, and you're going to prison for 20 years, or you're working for U.S. intelligence.
01:24:09.000And so lay civilians— Well, there's pen testing.
01:24:27.000So I would say that when you're working for the intelligence agencies and you're working for these contractors, my friends never called that white or black hat.
01:24:37.000The White Hat stuff is like you work for a private company and you get hired as a cybersecurity company and they'll say, we're going to shore up your security.
01:24:44.000We're going to try and keep it as – we're trying to get as minimal weight as possible so your employees have easy access to everything without being too cumbersome.
01:24:54.000And then we're going to do a few penetration tests and see if we can break your security and explain where you guys were weak.
01:24:58.000That's run-of-the-mill everyday stuff that you might find a small business doing of like two or three guys.
01:25:02.000And that's probably the majority of quote-unquote hacking.
01:25:06.000There's a lot of social engineering manipulation and con artistry stuff, but they call that hacking and it's basically just a con artist.
01:25:12.000Someone tricked you into paying them out because, you know...
01:25:15.000A guy said, oh, look, my car broke down and I need 50 bucks for gas.
01:25:19.000Social engineering is the same thing, but over the phone, over the internet.
01:25:22.000Then you have the government stuff, which is, you know, my French is called that green hat.
01:25:26.000You work for the company that's going to pay you the most to do things that are kind of, you know.
01:25:30.000And then, of course, there's gray hat, but these terms are just getting silly now.
01:25:33.000Gray hat is like activists that are doing hacking and infiltration for, like, for, you know, the people who leak to WikiLeaks, for instance.
01:26:08.000What I'm getting at here specifically is this is not good enough for me anymore.
01:26:13.000It wasn't good enough for me years ago.
01:26:15.000Now I assign zero credibility to this.
01:26:18.000When you see a news report that comes out and says the sky was blue yesterday, you as a civilian can easily decide whether or not you were being lied to because you went outside yesterday and it didn't look green.
01:26:34.000It's the same thing, for example, if the media reports that a projectile missile fell on Greensboro, North Carolina, there's going to be a picture of the indent in the earth.
01:26:49.000There's going to be eyewitness testimony.
01:26:51.000There's going to be lots of ways where you say, okay, that probably happened.
01:26:55.000I don't think the AI deepfaked all this stuff.
01:26:57.000But then are you just saying that because we got leaks about the U.S. and not about China, you're more inclined to believe the U.S. is doing bad but disregard things that China may be doing?
01:27:05.000What I'm saying is how easy is it if you wanted to hack Donald Trump's phone because you are a rogue cell at NSA or a rogue cell at DHS or a rogue cell like Peter Strzok and co.
01:27:19.000at FBI Counterintelligence and you want to delegate it to a foreign contractor with no look, we're not going to look.
01:27:26.000And they do that, it would be the easiest thing in the world for that to just be a compartmentalized, classified operation, and they just have the contract at the end, put a little false...
01:27:35.000But you're not making an argument as to why that is.
01:29:03.000And I need more proof in that, given how CISA was turned into a cyber censorship unit, because they said tweets on the Internet containing misinformation are a cyber threat or cyber threat actors in our attacks on the critical infrastructure of our elections.
01:29:19.000If you tweet that mail in ballots are not reliable.
01:29:23.000This is one of the most corrupt wings of the U.S. government, and it operates in the most cloak cover of darkness.
01:29:30.000And so when I see a news story from the New York Times, who simultaneously publishes that we need to torch the U.S. Constitution and who lied us into the Iraq War, I do not immediately accept the premise unless they show me the math.
01:29:43.000And what I think the American public needs to demand on all things digital and all things digital forensics and hacking is we need a higher standard of reporting for this to pass the smell test.
01:29:54.000The issue I brought up was with you then diverting to saying, Vault 7, the U.S. government, their apparatus, they could do this, they have a better reason to do it, and they want to know what's on Trump's phone, as if to imply the real story is that the U.S. government hacked Trump's phone.
01:30:06.000No, I didn't imply that that was the case.
01:30:08.000I implied I don't believe this because that's equally likely to.
01:30:17.000It's nice to think about false flag, digital false flags.
01:30:21.000Because I've literally, I mentioned it earlier, I'm concerned with like foreign, like putting missiles in another country and having them fired on you.
01:30:32.000Has there been evidence that they've literally gone into a foreign country, set up rockets and fired on themselves to be like, they're firing on us?
01:31:09.000I mean, I don't think we have a real point of disagreement here.
01:31:12.000I was just providing color on my reaction to seeing the article.
01:31:16.000Like, I agree with what you said about, you know, China obviously having a robust hacking capacity and hacking American devices and that they would have an interest in doing so.
01:31:26.000The larger point that I was making here is that when I see this article in the New York Times and I don't see math attached to it, here's how they made this determination.
01:31:34.000Without revealing sources and methods, I need more than someone said.
01:32:03.000So this is the story that we have so far is New York Times says sources claim Trump and Vance, as well as many Democrats, but they use Trump and Vance in the lead.
01:32:16.000They say that Democrats, including Kamala Harris's campaign and prominent figures on Capitol Hill, Chuck Schumer, were also targeted, but the headline is Trump and Vance.
01:32:26.000And they don't name a single official.
01:33:00.000I mean, there's lots of possibilities, but if a local American company hacked and then blamed it on a foreigner, not only do you get the data, but you get the enemy to get hated.
01:33:09.000Did they list Kamala Harris in that as well?
01:33:14.000Maybe the idea is that by listing Trump and Vance, it makes them look more unstable as if they're targeting them specifically, even if they don't name them.
01:34:08.000Unless Elon personally showed the phone.
01:34:11.000Again, that's accepting the truth of it.
01:34:13.000Elon's not weighed in on it, and I'm reserving judgment.
01:34:16.000But the fact is, is they want to know...
01:34:21.000Both for national security reasons, for counterintelligence, but also for political operations purposes.
01:34:26.000That can be used to generate a treason trial, a counterintelligence probe, a special prosecutor.
01:34:33.000And it would be very easy for them to put a little boop, a little button on it at the end, a little false attribution that says, oh, you know what?
01:35:36.000He removed information from an email that showed, I believe it was, it's been a long time, Carter Page was an informant for, was it the CIA or was it for the FBI? Yeah.
01:35:49.000He's also providing information on other people.
01:35:51.000And Clinesmith wanted to get a FISA warrant, so he lied and said, this is just some guy doing bad things, when in reality he was doing things for the government.
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01:37:34.000And I also want to give a shout out to our good friend, Don Lemon, who called me extreme.
01:38:02.000If you listen to this show more often, you might have had a coherent answer for our friend Don Lemon because everyone's ragging on the dude because he got asked about why he's voting for Trump.
01:38:10.000And he said, the economy and immigration and...
01:38:13.000So you gotta watch more TimCast, dude.
01:39:49.000I do think it's kind of funny to consider that, you know, I meet people and they say, I feel like I know you because I listen to you for hours every day, but you don't know who I am.
01:41:37.000That's a serious question in the end, though.
01:41:40.000All right, Twisty says, was listening to the culture war, and I'll just say this, that most of the road truck drivers can't afford a home on the wages we get as truck drivers.
01:41:48.000I personally would not be able to afford a home, car, and basic bills on the pay I get now.
01:42:11.000main source of water and another country starts doing things to the water war because it's like hey downstream we're dying you're putting poison in our water we have no choice so we usually don't see uh water conflict in terms of i can't afford to get water to my home people just leave and go find water somewhere else but uh it's a that's why i said it's largely useless but the general idea is there if a required resource becomes too difficult to obtain through work people will begin to act violent to obtain such a resource.
01:42:40.000Well, that's why what I've always said whenever people talk about civil war, from the Luddite perspective, it's like, wouldn't it be more common to believe that that will happen once food shortages happen?
01:42:59.000That's why U.S. sanctions policy is designed to create famine.
01:43:03.000Literally, I think there's an assistant secretary in the Biden administration.
01:43:10.000I know that Max Blumenthal and the Gray Zone folks reported on this, basically stipulating that the State Department and USAID, they see the goal of sanctions policy to create that exact equation that Tim just teed up.
01:43:26.000There's a regime that we want to throw out power.
01:43:28.000They did this, for example, in Syria with Assad.
01:43:32.000They bombed the wheat fields so that there was less grain production in order to increase hunger, in order to get more Syrians on the streets to overthrow the Assad government because of the inaccessibility of food.
01:43:46.000Cameron Giotto says, I was thinking about this today.
01:43:49.000The past eight years we have been living in a new Red Scare McCarthyism, but against those seen as conservative rather than communist.
01:45:40.000It spoils down to the, I think it was Andrew Jackson, or maybe it was Andrew Jackson, but he said, you know, the Chief Justice has made his ruling, now let him enforce it.
01:45:49.000You know, the Supreme Court made a ruling, and I think it was Andrew Jackson that said, you know, I'm going to ignore your ruling and do what I want to do.
01:46:01.000As long as there are forces or whether it be the Justice Department or, you know, direct action forces that are going to listen to whoever's giving the order, it doesn't matter what the courts say.
01:46:12.000Yeah, it's just crazy because we've totally lost rule of law in this country with what...
01:46:18.000Merrick Garland's gangster justice department does like the same institution that is telling you you need to have illegal voters on your voting rolls is the same institution who can effectively legally assassinate you.
01:46:34.000By destroying your life if you are in the political crosshairs of the administration.
01:46:40.000Who wants to be on the bad side of Merrick Garland?
01:47:59.000But the idea is that come Monday, there's going to be newsrooms slating stories, and they're going to pre-write, and they're going to schedule, and then come Monday, it's going to go up.
01:48:07.000I feel like for Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan gets great viewership anyways, and for Donald Trump, it's like there's no burying the story, and there's no...
01:48:17.000It doesn't matter when you put it out.
01:48:19.000The people that want to listen are going to listen.
01:48:33.000Saturday, which is tomorrow, I will be here and I will likely have several segments commenting on, or I'll probably just do one big one commenting on the show and my thoughts on it and what Trump said.
01:48:44.000There's probably going to be many an article written about it.
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01:49:16.000Yeah, we'll do a watch-along party for those on the Discord.
01:49:19.000So go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and we'll watch the show, which basically means we're going to say, hey, everybody, we're starting the show now.
01:49:44.000If you start an hour behind the other people in the Discord, you don't want to be like, oh, that part, Trump believes in aliens, dude, what?
01:49:50.000You don't want anything to get spoken over, too.
01:49:53.000The only part I want to see is when Trump smokes the weed.
01:50:14.000So the reporting right now is that Kamala was in discussions and there's two rumors circulating that one, she said it was a scheduled conflict, can't do it.
01:50:20.000The other, the other rumor is that she asked for certain restrictions and Joe refused.
01:50:45.000We're going to talk about whatever comes up.
01:50:47.000How weird would it be if you say we can't talk about the border crisis and then a story comes up where we're talking and we're like, oh yeah, that woman who died, Lake and Riley, Better to change the subject.
01:51:04.000I wonder if Joe mentioned that tonight, or in the thing, if he talks to Trump about it, he was like, well, we're going to do it with Kamala, but she didn't want to because blah, blah, blah.
01:55:04.000And I just said, the reason why we need a one world government is because the Galactic Federation will not induct Earth into the Federation until we are unified under one governing authority.
01:55:14.000And Joe just goes, I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.
01:56:10.000Well, I'll tell you how I did it last time.
01:56:12.000So I searched my email for the link they sent me for my first play button, and then I just put in the name of my new channel, and then it worked.
01:56:23.000I think they said that if it had gone through, that likely it would have gone to the junk folder and then been deleted from the email folder after like 30 days.
01:57:53.000I mean, this is just an incredible moment of, you know, congressional hearings where I think Rubio asked Victoria Nuland about the presence of U.S. bio labs in Ukraine.
01:58:08.000And I think he was, because this was a internet conspiracy theory that had been going viral throughout the week.
01:58:38.000Indicated that it was like quite extensive and kind of exactly what the internet was saying it was.
01:58:45.000And the response was like to immediately shift the subject.
01:58:49.000But there was a great like shot, reverse shot reaction when that happened because you could see that it was almost like the defense lawyer said, You know, asking on examination of his client in front of the judge, like, a leading question that they rehearsed earlier, and the client just said the exact opposite thing of what they talked about.
01:59:17.000And so you, like, quickly move to the next line of questioning.
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