Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Kamala BOMBS 60 Minutes Interview, Trump ROASTS Her w-Tor Ekeland

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00:00:12.000 you the big story of course my friends right now is not

00:00:40.000 politics It's Hurricane Milton. It's strengthened back to a Category 5.

00:00:43.000 It is heading straight for Florida.

00:00:45.000 And man, they're telling everybody, get out now.

00:00:48.000 I would just say, please listen to the advice they're giving you.

00:00:53.000 Look, this storm is going to come in.

00:00:55.000 Property is going to get destroyed.

00:00:56.000 You don't have to be there.

00:00:58.000 Now, I'm not going to tell anybody how to live their lives.

00:01:00.000 Just I'm going to say, please heed the advice of the emergency professionals and the first responders, law enforcement, everybody's trying to manage this and make sure you guys live properly.

00:01:09.000 Because for our friends who are down there, I mean, a three-day vacation down over at TimCast Studios sounds like a good deal.

00:01:16.000 And then, you know, hopefully we'll get through this.

00:01:17.000 But there is more news on this.

00:01:20.000 They're saying there's a 20% chance that another hurricane is forming and could actually slam into Florida.

00:01:25.000 So this is the big story, of course, that I hope we're all paying attention to.

00:01:28.000 I hope you guys are prepared. But of course, my friends, the fun political news is the 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris, where she gave wishy-washy answers.

00:01:37.000 Bill Whitaker actually did a really great job.

00:01:40.000 He pressed her. There was one point where he says, do you regret undoing Trump's policies?

00:01:45.000 The border crossings have gotten worse.

00:01:47.000 And she's like, no, we're proposing solutions.

00:01:49.000 He goes, yeah, but it's quadrupled.

00:01:51.000 And she goes, but we cut that in half.

00:01:53.000 And I'm sitting here being like, so it's doubled?

00:01:55.000 It's not a really good response.

00:01:57.000 And, you know, don't take my word for it.

00:01:59.000 Do not take my word for it.

00:02:00.000 You're going to say, Tim, you're biased.

00:02:02.000 You just don't like Kamala Harris. The betting markets have flipped on a dime.

00:02:06.000 After this interview drops, you can see Polly Market just boosh!

00:02:10.000 Trump shoots straight up.

00:02:11.000 And now in the aggregate betting markets, we are looking at Donald Trump with a three or four point lead.

00:02:18.000 This means that people who saw that were like, I don't think she's going to win now.

00:02:21.000 So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about it's media blitz day for Kamala Harris.

00:02:26.000 She's on The View. She's on Howard Stern.

00:02:28.000 She's on 60 Minutes.

00:02:29.000 And I'm seeing on Twitter, people are complaining about Kamala stories.

00:02:34.000 Shout out to the quartering, who was like, are there any non-Kamala stories?

00:02:37.000 Well, sorry, buddy. She's doing the press run, and it's getting a lot of attention.

00:02:42.000 So we'll talk about that. Joe Biden is actually countering her messages, and then people think the hurricanes are man-made.

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00:05:28.000 Share the show. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Tor Eklund.

00:05:32.000 Hi. Who are you?

00:05:34.000 What do you do? I am a federal criminal defense lawyer based out of Brooklyn, New York, and I mainly do defend people accused of computer crimes.

00:05:42.000 And I do some white-collar stuff, and I've basically been dealing with DOJ for the last decade.

00:05:49.000 I imagine you don't have a favorable opinion.

00:05:52.000 My opinion has changed over the last decade or so.

00:05:56.000 Yeah. Yeah. You were – I mean you're like the hacker lawyer.

00:05:59.000 That was like your beat back in the day.

00:06:01.000 I mean – Yep. No, that's fair to say.

00:06:04.000 That's fair to say. I mean that was my first exposure to DOJ and the FBI and – I'll just be honest.

00:06:11.000 I think they've just gotten out of hand in this country, and I think there's this sort of cult of the prosecutor that seems to be particularly strong on the left right now.

00:06:21.000 I mean, they're running a prosecutor for president.

00:06:24.000 I just think it's just gotten out of hand.

00:06:26.000 It's not healthy for America.

00:06:28.000 But where do you find yourself politically?

00:06:30.000 You're not like a right-wing guy or anything.

00:06:31.000 I'm all over the place. I guess if I identified as anything, I'd identify as maybe libertarian, but I've got views on the right, I've got views on the left.

00:06:39.000 That's one of the things I'm struggling with right now in this country, is this polarization and everybody seems to be like, we have to be this side, we have to be that side.

00:06:48.000 You've got to go around this issue.

00:06:51.000 We'll convince you. I'm open to being refuted, as one of my favorite philosophers says.

00:06:56.000 Should be fun, should be fun. I think everyone will be critical of the DOJ, though.

00:06:59.000 But we've got a lot hanging out.

00:07:01.000 Hey, what's up, Tim? Hey, everybody.

00:07:03.000 I'm Elad Eliyahu, field reporter and Jewish affairs correspondent here at TimCast.

00:07:08.000 Hannah Claire? Uh-huh. I think that's a made-up title, but I respect your ability to lie to the public.

00:07:13.000 No, I'm just kidding. I'm Hannah Claire Breville.

00:07:15.000 I'm a writer. You can see me on this podcast most nights.

00:07:18.000 And I'll... Yeah, let's get started.

00:07:20.000 So we'll just start with the story we got from Fox News, because these reports on the 60 Minutes interview from Harris are all over the place.

00:07:27.000 I'm not seeing very many positive ones.

00:07:30.000 We'll just say Fox News has criticism.

00:07:33.000 60 Minutes asks Harris whether it was a mistake for Biden admin to go soft on the border.

00:07:38.000 VP repeatedly dodges.

00:07:40.000 Now, of course, Trump has responded.

00:07:41.000 And instead of giving any compliments to Kamala Harris, Daily Beast just says Trump gets unhinged, even for him, over Kamala Harris' 60 Minutes interview.

00:07:50.000 You may be asking yourselves, Tim, how do we know what the truth is?

00:07:54.000 If the liberal side is saying that Kamala did just fine and Trump is unhinged, and the conservative side is saying, no, no, Kamala, it was miserably bad, it was awful, well, how do we know it's true?

00:08:05.000 You gotta ask Vegas, because if you take a look at the betting odds, you can see it playing in the day.

00:08:10.000 Donald Trump is enjoying a three-point lead over Harris, and it is specifically after the CBS interview drops that the betting odds for Trump shot straight up.

00:08:21.000 Trump didn't say anything! This is the important factor.

00:08:24.000 If we pull up Polly Market specifically, you can see that just following this, literally,

00:08:29.000 it's basically right around the time the CBS interview clips are beginning to drop,

00:08:35.000 they're going viral, we just see Donald Trump's odds jump straight up.

00:08:40.000 Now, we can see that Trump's odds were improving. We were getting word that Kamala was going to be

00:08:44.000 doing this interview. Clips had been emerging. But it really looks like, in aggregate, Kamala

00:08:49.000 sank. You know, she just did The View. She did Howard Stern.

00:08:52.000 We'll talk about that.

00:08:53.000 But I got to say, when it comes to this interview, it really does seem like, in fact,

00:08:58.000 she bombed it. I'm curious what you all think.

00:09:00.000 The only thing I would say is that it's a good idea.

00:09:03.000 I learned from this interview is that she says she owns a Glock, which I find fascinating

00:09:07.000 and convenient that she would pick the law enforcement gun.

00:09:11.000 You know, I think that it is also fascinating that she would be on a media blitz right now.

00:09:17.000 I mean, it's it's not just this pod, this show, although this is probably biggest.

00:09:20.000 She did call her daddy.

00:09:21.000 She's apparently about to do late night shows and all kinds of things.

00:09:25.000 And her poll numbers are going down, which probably means that every one of her advisors

00:09:29.000 that was like, we cannot let this woman speak to the public, knew what they were talking

00:09:34.000 I think my favorite part was when Bill Whitaker, the reporter for the journalist for CBS, asks her about the people don't know who you are.

00:09:43.000 You know, you're running, but they still don't know who you are.

00:09:46.000 And then she has the gall to say that, you know, I'm honored to have earned the support of the delegates.

00:09:51.000 You can't just expect to be made the candidate or the nominee or whatever.

00:09:56.000 And it's just that's literally what happened.

00:09:59.000 But hey, look, we can complain all day and night.

00:10:01.000 The betting odds are tanking.

00:10:02.000 Trump's improving. There's a lot of news.

00:10:04.000 We got a story, Wall Street Journal talking about the internal polling in Michigan has Democrats panicking.

00:10:08.000 This is the second time we've heard this because she is losing white collar workers.

00:10:13.000 Kamala Harris, I think, now is struggling from a honeymoon, a post-honeymoon phase.

00:10:18.000 So everything was really jolly after the convention.

00:10:20.000 And going to the convention, she got the whole Democrat Party behind her.

00:10:24.000 But as more questions are being brought up, she's going to struggle to maintain that coalition.

00:10:29.000 One of the really good questions in a clip I saw from Bill Whitaker was asking about how she's changed her position specifically on immigration.

00:10:36.000 She's changed her position on Medicare for All.

00:10:38.000 She supported that in the past and now doesn't.

00:10:41.000 And the more that her actual positions are exposed, the more difficult for her to be able to maintain this coalition that she's building.

00:10:50.000 And it's only going to slowly go downhill from here.

00:10:53.000 I think the Kamala Harris campaign is just hoping that before the election she maintains above 50%.

00:10:59.000 Well, let me play this clip.

00:11:01.000 You can hear it right from the show.

00:11:02.000 A quarter. of registered voters still say they don't know you.

00:11:09.000 They don't know what makes you tick.

00:11:11.000 And why do you think that is?

00:11:13.000 What's the disconnect?

00:11:15.000 It's an election bill.

00:11:18.000 And I take it seriously that I have to earn everyone's vote.

00:11:23.000 This is an election for president of the United States.

00:11:27.000 No one should be able to take for granted that they can just declare themselves a candidate.

00:11:32.000 And automatically receives support.

00:11:34.000 You have to earn it. I gotta be honest.

00:11:36.000 I have seen so much from the Harris campaign in the past couple of days.

00:11:40.000 I think a good reason why her betting odds went down over the weekend was that tweet where she said she's giving Lebanon $157 million.

00:11:47.000 But I have to wonder if...

00:11:49.000 After this, she goes backstage with Tim Walz and they bust out laughing, being like, can you believe that people buy this?

00:11:56.000 She literally says in 60 Minutes, you can't take for granted just being made the nominee or whatever.

00:12:02.000 Like, she's describing herself.

00:12:04.000 She has to know this.

00:12:05.000 That's kind of an empty answer, too.

00:12:07.000 Like, I still don't know who she is, right?

00:12:09.000 Like, I don't like she had all these interviews.

00:12:11.000 Like, well, what are her substantive positions on anything?

00:12:14.000 I don't know. And she seems to blow with the wind.

00:12:16.000 Right. And how does she respond to voters who are saying, we don't know who you are?

00:12:20.000 And her response is, yes, I have to earn votes.

00:12:22.000 OK, but we're not that far out and you're not really explaining who you are.

00:12:26.000 Like you have an opportunity to say, oh, well, obviously, you know, I have to do more to sort of explain to people why I think I'm the champion for this, that and the other.

00:12:34.000 Instead, she's sort of like, here are a lot of platitudes and empty answers and I won't address their concerns that they don't know me well enough, you know, less than 30 days before the election.

00:12:43.000 Yeah. Why she's refusing to answer the question, who am I, what are my positions on things, is because people will attack her for it.

00:12:49.000 If she's running on, I'm a second term of Joe Biden, then she'll be attacked as too pro-Israel and not progressive enough.

00:12:56.000 If she comes out with a very anti-Israel position or extremely pro-Medicaid for all, it's going to ruin the coalition that the Democrats have built.

00:13:05.000 It's untenable. And they're hoping that they could just...

00:13:09.000 Hold it together with tape for another month or so until it all really falls apart.

00:13:13.000 And then they're going to let all the cracks show because once Kamala Harris, not once, if, God forbid, Kamala Harris was elected, then we will see the coalition, I think, splinter fairly quickly.

00:13:23.000 Well, we've got another clip because we're just going to, I'm sorry for all the viewers at home who are going, please, Tim, no more clips of Kamala.

00:13:29.000 No, you got to listen because you have to learn.

00:13:30.000 Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say.

00:13:34.000 Okay. They say that the reason so many voters don't know you is that you have changed your position on so many things.

00:13:42.000 You were against fracking.

00:13:43.000 Now you're for it.

00:13:45.000 You supported looser immigration policies.

00:13:48.000 Now you're tightening them up.

00:13:50.000 You're for Medicare for All.

00:13:52.000 Now you're not. So many that people don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for.

00:14:00.000 And I know you've heard that.

00:14:01.000 In the last four years, I have been Vice President of the United States.

00:14:05.000 And I have been traveling our country.

00:14:07.000 And I have been listening to folks.

00:14:09.000 And seeking what is possible in terms of common ground.

00:14:14.000 I believe in building consensus.

00:14:16.000 We are a diverse people, geographically, regionally, in terms of where we are and our backgrounds.

00:14:23.000 And what the American people do want is that we have leaders who can build consensus, where we can figure out compromise and understand it's not a bad thing, as long as you don't compromise your values.

00:14:36.000 To find common sense solutions.

00:14:39.000 All right, Tor, what's your assessment?

00:14:41.000 Have you been convinced to vote for her?

00:14:43.000 No, I just don't know. Like, she just dodges everything.

00:14:45.000 Like, what's her position?

00:14:47.000 She blows with the wind. She seems like an opportunist.

00:14:50.000 I don't, like, just answer the question, man.

00:14:53.000 She doesn't have an answer. That's the issue.

00:14:55.000 She's terrified of being pinned down because she wants to be able to switch to whatever's going to be.

00:14:59.000 She's taking Liz Cheney's endorsement?

00:15:02.000 I thought the Cheneys were the kiss of death on the left.

00:15:06.000 What's going on? They're valued Republicans now.

00:15:09.000 Adam Kinzinger. When you saw that Dick and Liz Cheney were endorsing the Denver, what was your assessment when you saw that happen?

00:15:16.000 Did it surprise you? No, it didn't, because I think she's an opportunist, you know, and I think that's, like, why she dated Montel.

00:15:22.000 That's why she dated Slick Willie.

00:15:24.000 That's why, like, that's her whole, you know, history.

00:15:27.000 And, like, date who you want and get up to the top however you want.

00:15:30.000 But when you're at this level and you want to be president of the United States, I want a straight answer on what your position is.

00:15:34.000 There's no one left to date. Yeah.

00:15:38.000 Well, she's trying to date the American public, right?

00:15:40.000 Not well, though. She's not convincing anyone of her prowess as a charismatic leader here.

00:15:48.000 I wonder, too, if it bothers anyone else.

00:15:52.000 They have one shot on the...

00:15:57.000 The interviewer, right? They occasionally cut to her face.

00:16:00.000 But when she's giving her answers, there's a bunch of jump cuts there.

00:16:03.000 I find myself thinking like, did you actually say a lot of other random things?

00:16:07.000 And they're like, we just got to condense this down.

00:16:09.000 This woman is just talking nonsense.

00:16:11.000 I think the real reason why she's changed her positions on this is because in the past she was running in a primary from the left against Joe Biden, so she had more of the further leftist positions.

00:16:23.000 And otherwise in California, she was running as a senator, again in California, one of

00:16:28.000 the bluest states we have.

00:16:29.000 So obviously she has to be extremely progressive there.

00:16:31.000 She has to flip on fracking now.

00:16:33.000 Why?

00:16:34.000 Because she has to win Pennsylvania.

00:16:35.000 So all of this just comes down to the politics of it.

00:16:39.000 She's running to win, not because of any of her ideals or she's at least masking them

00:16:43.000 now.

00:16:44.000 But but that's the real reason any of these things have changed.

00:16:47.000 When she was running against Joe Biden, she wasn't the real moderate in that primary.

00:16:51.000 So she had to say, hey, I support Medicare for all.

00:16:53.000 I support sex changes for government-funded sex changes for illegal immigrants because I'm going to take the progressive bulwark.

00:17:00.000 I'm going to be the progressive bulwark in this race.

00:17:02.000 Now she's the moderate because she wants to appear moderate relative to Donald Trump.

00:17:07.000 So that's why she's trying to stake these less extreme positions.

00:17:11.000 So climate change doesn't exist anymore, I guess.

00:17:13.000 I guess climate change is no longer an existential issue.

00:17:16.000 That was never her suggestion. For all progressives, it was.

00:17:19.000 And she was against fracking in the past.

00:17:21.000 So now why she's for fracking?

00:17:24.000 Not because climate change does or doesn't matter, but it's because it's not popular right now in Pennsylvania.

00:17:29.000 So as things blow in the wind, her only principle is getting elected.

00:17:33.000 Okay, well, I can show you one of her principles.

00:17:36.000 And it is from CNN. I want to start by saying this.

00:18:08.000 When Kamala Harris goes on CBS and she can't pin down any kind of actual policy positions, she gives generic canned responses.

00:18:15.000 Let's just go to what CNN does say.

00:18:18.000 When Donald Trump mentioned this at the CBS debates, they acted like he was crazy.

00:18:24.000 And this is what they do.

00:18:26.000 I don't care if Trump says it or Elad says it or Pee Wee Herman, whatever.

00:18:32.000 Is he still around? I don't know what that guy's name was.

00:18:33.000 I don't care who says it.

00:18:35.000 OK, it's true.

00:18:37.000 It's been reported. Kamala Harris felt this questionnaire and she was in favor of these ridiculous positions.

00:18:42.000 She has supported banning fracking.

00:18:43.000 She has supported Medicare for all, Medicaid for all.

00:18:47.000 She's taken the most extreme positions.

00:18:48.000 She wants to do away with gas-powered vehicles.

00:18:51.000 She wants EV mandates.

00:18:52.000 That's been in this current administration.

00:18:54.000 Now that she's running, she won't give us any straight answer on anything.

00:18:58.000 Pee Wee Herman died in 2023.

00:19:00.000 Paul Rubens? Paul Rubens, yeah.

00:19:03.000 He just missed his chance to get endorsement on Kamala Harris or not.

00:19:06.000 I have to be honest. If he burst from the grave, came up and said this, I would be surprised.

00:19:11.000 But my point is, when Donald Trump says this, we get this wave of anti-Trump media saying he's crazy and making up garbled nonsense.

00:19:19.000 These liberals, they make comics where it's like Trump says they're trying to trans the immigrants.

00:19:25.000 And they're like, Trump's crazy.

00:19:26.000 Why is he saying these things?

00:19:28.000 Trump needed to say this at the debate.

00:19:29.000 He shouldn't have said she wants to give sex change surgery to illegal immigrants.

00:19:34.000 He should have said CNN reported this, and I thought it was insane.

00:19:38.000 It can't be true. Kamala, is this true?

00:19:40.000 And then let her respond. Let her say yes or no.

00:19:42.000 And then if she says it's not true at all, he could have just said, CNN, wow, CNN said this.

00:19:48.000 And now you can deal with defamation or whatever you want to deal with.

00:19:50.000 But here's what you have to—okay, you want to vote for Kamala Harris?

00:19:54.000 CNN says she will use federal funding for gender transition surgeries for illegal immigrants.

00:19:59.000 One of the interesting realities of the fact that her campaign basically had no interviews—I mean, it was like she and Tim Walz did something like 25 during the same period Trump and Vance had done over 60—is that she will now—no one will be able to say after this that she hasn't sat for any interviews, right? I mean— It's almost brilliant except for the fact that if the objective is to win over undecided voters who repeatedly consistently for weeks have said we do not know enough about her,

00:20:55.000 then it's sort of a failure.

00:20:57.000 I mean this seems more like a move to protect her ego than to actually perform a successful campaign.

00:21:02.000 Is it my imagination or does she look kind of like really tense and almost like terrified in that 60 minutes?

00:21:09.000 She looks sad. Yeah, like I think she's like terrified of just saying the wrong thing.

00:21:15.000 That's the reality.

00:21:16.000 I don't want to comment on her looks because she's a woman and I don't want to be called sexist.

00:21:19.000 But something about when she opens her eyes and like her forehead, I don't know.

00:21:23.000 I like a lot of the like smiling and nodding.

00:21:26.000 Like, yeah, see? I mean, I do this a lot.

00:21:28.000 My verbal tick, and this is true for a lot of women, is to end your sentence as a question.

00:21:31.000 Say like... Right?

00:21:33.000 But for her, she has gotten out of that by, like, smile and nodding.

00:21:37.000 Like, as the leader of the country, you have to build coalitions.

00:21:41.000 Like, she is looking for that affirmation from whoever she's talking to, but she's also not doing the verbal tick of ending in a question.

00:21:48.000 Also, on these interviews, on the 60 Minutes interview in particular, I do think we need to give credit where it is due to Brian Whitaker, was it, who was conducting this interview for 60 Minutes?

00:21:59.000 Because most other journalists on the left, whether it be from Politico, MSNBC, or CNN, who either had this opportunity or in the press pool around Kamala Harris, do not take their opportunities to ask Kamala Harris half-decent questions at all.

00:22:14.000 And I commend...

00:22:16.000 Brian Whitaker for actually taking the opportunity when presented it.

00:22:20.000 And in case it wasn't obvious, the reason why a lot of these people don't do it is because although they might have some beef with Kamala Harris, not being as openly progressive as they may want her to be, they believe the ends justify the means.

00:22:33.000 And that means that they will not critically cover Kamala Harris because that will mean beating Donald Trump.

00:22:38.000 And that is the only thing that matters to them.

00:22:40.000 So Regardless of how bad Kamala Harris may be, whether or not she's talking about Medicaid for all right now, whether or not she's talking about fracking right now, all of that is forgiven because the ends justify the means in her needing to win this election.

00:22:53.000 Otherwise, what? They believe we get who knows what because the first round wasn't too bad.

00:22:58.000 So what do we actually get with a Kamala Harris victory?

00:23:02.000 I don't think any of us reasonably know other than what we already have over the past three

00:23:06.000 and a half years.

00:23:07.000 Is she just going to follow in the footsteps of Joe Biden?

00:23:11.000 She's already the tie-breaking vote in the Senate.

00:23:13.000 So the only reasonable conclusion for anybody, regardless of any interview she does, she

00:23:17.000 was on The View, she's on Howard Stern, she's doing late night shows, is whatever is happening

00:23:21.000 now will continue to happen.

00:23:22.000 Are you happy with that?

00:23:23.000 Yes or no? Fourth term of Barack Obama is what I consider.

00:23:28.000 And I think the Democrats have been consistent with their top of the ticket.

00:23:32.000 I think you're going to get consistent product.

00:23:34.000 It's going to be Obama. It's going to be Joe Biden and Kamala Harris is just next in line.

00:23:38.000 I think she'll be the same as Biden with a slight drift to the left because of who she is likely to hire and be staffed by.

00:23:47.000 And I think that is something that the voter doesn't always take into account.

00:23:51.000 You know, again, going back to the undecideds, if the impression is all we know about her is that she's Biden's VP, the conclusion that this would just be more of the same is totally reasonable unless she is willing to come out hard and attack Joe Biden and be like, Look, I was in his administration, but he did not do these things well, and she's not willing to do that.

00:24:10.000 She's sort of passive-aggressively.

00:24:12.000 She's like, well, I'm clearly not Joe Biden.

00:24:14.000 But anyways, here are the things that we did, and I was the last one in the room for these big decisions.

00:24:19.000 I mean, she wants the glory of having the experience of having been in the White House without having to take accountability for the challenges that Americans are currently facing.

00:24:29.000 And I just don't think that she has effectively messaged her way out of being another Joe Biden.

00:24:35.000 And the voters clearly did not want another Joe Biden.

00:24:38.000 It's funny because she doesn't tout that I was the last person in the room on all the major decisions point anymore at any of her rallies.

00:24:43.000 I know. Weirdly, she dropped that one.

00:24:44.000 Yeah, that just fell out of the picture very quickly.

00:24:47.000 As soon as they dropped Joe Biden like a hot potato.

00:24:51.000 I just think it's odd.

00:24:52.000 I can't name a single one of her core principles.

00:24:55.000 And that, like, concerns me if she's going to be president of the United States.

00:24:59.000 What concerns me with all this sort of, like, you're not getting any information on anything really substantive, she seems to be blowing with the wind, is that she's maybe going to get in there, and she's going to get just sort of pushed around, or you're going to just get more of, you know, the same establishment kind of stuff from the national security state and the administrative state.

00:25:18.000 So, yeah, I just, I have a concern, like, yeah, I have no idea who she is.

00:25:23.000 What are her principles? I think that's one of the challenges, having not been a very established federal-level politician before this, right?

00:25:31.000 She was only in the Senate for, what, one term?

00:25:33.000 It wasn't that long before she decided to run for president and then eventually became VP. And she doesn't really talk about her time as a prosecutor.

00:25:43.000 She talks about that she was a prosecutor and that Trump's a felon.

00:25:46.000 But I mean, I know a lot of people who, you know, I mean, Tulsi Gabbard was famously the one who during the Democratic primary pushed back and said, hey, these are the things you did as a prosecutor that were abhorrent and they are not in alignment with their values.

00:26:00.000 That disturbs me, the fact that she's a prosecutor and her mindset seems to be that the solution to society's problems can be solved through criminal law.

00:26:11.000 And when she was, I think, a DA in California, one of the things that she did as a parent, like, I found abhorrent, and she doesn't have kids, but one of the things she did is she criminalized truancy such that the parents...

00:26:27.000 We're criminally liable for their kids being truant.

00:26:31.000 And I know, whatever, we're not supposed to, like, say, oh, people who haven't had kids, you know, shouldn't wait on kids.

00:26:37.000 But as a parent, I don't know any parent that would criminalize their kids showing up late to school.

00:26:45.000 Like that's coming from somebody who just doesn't understand kids.

00:26:49.000 And I do think it makes a difference if you have had kids or haven't had kids because anybody who's a parent gets

00:26:55.000 really annoyed with people who've never had kids stepping in and telling you how to raise their kids because you just

00:27:00.000 don't know.

00:27:01.000 You just haven't had the experience and that really stuck out to me from her period as a prosecutor.

00:27:07.000 Like you're punishing parents?

00:27:09.000 And if she's so proud of her time as a prosecutor, why isn't she saying?

00:27:11.000 And if I'm president nationally, parents whose kids are truant, like she stands by her policies and her records that she

00:27:17.000 implemented when she had the most influence over a single government, a.k.a. when she was a prosecutor in California.

00:27:23.000 Why not? Why not talk about this all the time?

00:27:26.000 Tim Walsh did one debate with J.D. Vance reference his time in Minnesota constantly.

00:27:30.000 I mean, she doesn't really even point to anything.

00:27:33.000 She could skip the Biden administration and point to California, except she's not proud of what she did in California or in the Senate, in my opinion.

00:27:40.000 I do think it's funny that we know exactly what Trump wants to do because he just yells it all the time.

00:27:45.000 Kamala Harris doesn't tell us at all what she wants to do.

00:27:47.000 I mean, don't get me wrong.

00:27:48.000 They've got... They copied the Biden agenda and put it on their website, but her past statements are all wishy-washy.

00:27:55.000 But she does lie about what Trump wants to do.

00:27:57.000 I've got to tell you, if you have been one of the very rare, if mythical being, a Kamala supporter going back to 2019...

00:28:09.000 You would have experienced every political position imaginable, and you'd have no way to conclude what she actually wants to do.

00:28:15.000 Then you would have believed her when she lies about what Trump wants to do, and you'd have no idea what he wants to do either.

00:28:21.000 So what are you really voting on?

00:28:23.000 Well, it's vibes.

00:28:25.000 That's it. It's vibes. It's vibes.

00:28:27.000 Okay, well I don't care about that.

00:28:29.000 I'm concerned about the border and the economy and hurricanes and war.

00:28:33.000 I'd like to solve these problems and maybe then once we've solved all the problems we can relax and order some wings or something.

00:28:39.000 Right. And if we weren't being bombarded by extreme weather, a Vibes campaign might have hung on a little bit longer through October.

00:28:47.000 I mean, I really think they wouldn't have put her on this media blitz if they could have avoided it because inevitably they know she does not interview that well.

00:28:56.000 If she was so charismatic, they would have had her front and center on everything all the time from day one.

00:29:02.000 So we have this. We'll jump to the story from the LA Times.

00:29:05.000 CBS News says Trump is dropping out of 60 Minutes Interview after accepting invitation.

00:29:11.000 Former President Trump is pulling out a planned interview with 60 Minutes.

00:29:14.000 They plan to devote a full-hour special on Monday to interviews with both Trump and his opponent, Kamala Harris, but the network's news division announced Tuesday that Trump is no longer willing to participate.

00:29:23.000 After accepting 60 Minutes' request to be interviewed by Scott Pelley, a campaign spokesperson notified 60 Minutes today the former president would not sit for an interview with the broadcast.

00:29:31.000 CBS News said the invitation to Trump still stands.

00:29:35.000 Harris is scheduled to sit for an interview with 60 Minutes correspondent Bill Whitaker, of course.

00:29:38.000 We already saw this. This is from last week or so.

00:29:41.000 I wonder why. So Stephen Chung says, I bet the Trump camp is rather happy to have not done an interview and are more than willing to sit back and just let Kamala Harris stew.

00:30:11.000 Kamala Harris is desperately trying to do these interviews because she did not define herself in any meaningful way.

00:30:17.000 And Democrats are just, they're way down on immigration and the economy.

00:30:21.000 These are the factors that Gallup says, according to their projections from all the past elections, will lead to a victory in November.

00:30:29.000 So that being said, I do think it's kind of strange that I don't understand.

00:30:53.000 So I obviously work in media.

00:30:55.000 I love interviewing people.

00:30:57.000 I think public figures and politicians should give more time to the media.

00:31:02.000 However, the Trump campaign had nothing to gain from going on to this 60 Minutes interview.

00:31:07.000 He wasn't going to win over any extra voters from CBS News at all.

00:31:11.000 Kamala Harris did have the opportunity to win over voters from the CBS News audience.

00:31:18.000 So I think this was a smart move, frankly, from the Trump campaign.

00:31:20.000 He's done a ton of media already, and we're seeing Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, when they

00:31:26.000 do give interviews, struggle mightily.

00:31:28.000 Tim Walz also struggled in this interview on 60 Minutes.

00:31:32.000 Trump has already been on 60 Minutes.

00:31:34.000 He did in 2016.

00:31:35.000 He did it in 2020.

00:31:36.000 They were hostile to him always.

00:31:38.000 What is the point of going through the same song and dance over and over again?

00:31:43.000 I get that for 60 Minutes, this is their chance to say, we are a routine stop along the presidential

00:31:49.000 campaign media tour, right?

00:31:50.000 Like some sort of hallmark that they have a right to do these interviews.

00:31:52.000 Some sort of hallmark that they have a right to do these interviews.

00:31:55.000 But, you know, they're just another corporate institution and maybe they shouldn't have

00:31:55.000 But they're just another corporate institution, and maybe they shouldn't have treated him

00:31:59.000 treated him so biasly in the past.

00:32:00.000 so biasly in the past.

00:32:01.000 Like, it doesn't make sense to me that he would waste his time doing an interview with

00:32:02.000 It doesn't make sense to me that he would waste his time doing an interview with an

00:32:05.000 an outlet that he's already done this with before.

00:32:06.000 outlet that he's already done this with before.

00:32:08.000 So now that we have sufficiently, I don't know, grilled Kamala Harris over not having

00:32:13.000 any strong positions, showed some of the clips from the 60 Minutes interview, let's go back

00:32:16.000 to the Daily Beast, who said Trump gets unhinged even for him over Kamala Harris 60 Minutes

00:32:21.000 interview because the only way they can actually tackle the media right now is to shift it

00:32:27.000 onto Trump because Kamala did rather poorly.

00:32:31.000 The Daily Beast says Donald Trump, who agreed to interview with CBS and he canceled this,

00:32:35.000 we know he said the interview on 60 Minutes with comrade Kamala Harris is considered by

00:32:40.000 many of those who reviewed it the worst interview they have ever seen.

00:32:44.000 She literally had no idea what she was talking about.

00:32:46.000 And it was an embarrassment to our country that a major party candidate would be so completely

00:32:50.000 inept.

00:32:51.000 In addition, her incompetence on helping people through the devastation of Hurricane Colleen

00:32:55.000 is being reviewed as by far the worst in American history, even worse than Katrina, if that

00:33:00.000 is possible.

00:33:01.000 I can't imagine anybody living in North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida

00:33:05.000 or Tennessee voting for her.

00:33:07.000 Yeah. This is good news because November 5th is the most important day in the history of our country, and we cannot bear four more years of incompetence.

00:33:23.000 Make America great again.

00:33:25.000 So they say Trump seemingly wants no part of that level of scrutiny.

00:33:29.000 The Republican nominee for president accepted an invitation to a similar sit-down, but then decided not to participate.

00:33:34.000 However, it's funny. A CBS spokesperson claims this.

00:33:38.000 Trump's campaign says they never agreed to do it in the first place.

00:33:41.000 They want to mention that Stephen Chung of the Trump campaign said it's fake news.

00:33:45.000 The Trump team was reportedly worried about 60 minutes fact-checking the interview.

00:33:49.000 During 60 minutes, Harris advised voters, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:52.000 So here's the point. Where in Trump's response is it warranted to say that he gets unhinged even for him?

00:33:59.000 More importantly, Trump is unhinged.

00:34:01.000 Here's his response. Trump should do the interview.

00:34:03.000 What's your critique? What did he do wrong?

00:34:05.000 The reality is...

00:34:07.000 The 60 Minutes interview is bad.

00:34:08.000 The betting markets show it.

00:34:10.000 We're going to see it reflected in the polls.

00:34:11.000 And the corporate press that wants to favor the Democratic Party has nothing to say about Kamala.

00:34:15.000 So they just say, I don't know, Trump is bad still for whatever reason.

00:34:19.000 Trump criticizing Kamala is a really, really bad thing.

00:34:21.000 Thank you and have a nice day. It's amazing that they haven't reached any level of fear-mongering fatigue after doing this for almost a decade now around Trump.

00:34:31.000 Where it's just like, I don't know, if they didn't believe us before, I don't know.

00:34:34.000 Now this is really going to convince somebody.

00:34:36.000 Even for him, even for Trump, this is unhinged.

00:34:39.000 Maybe this is just like, you know, the third pressing of the olive.

00:34:44.000 There's just literally no oil to be extracted.

00:34:47.000 They're making olive flour at this point.

00:34:49.000 I mean, I don't think the media component of this could get fatigued, right?

00:34:54.000 I mean, it's very easy to be like, every day the theme is Trump is bad and you get extra points if you can make him seem really, really bad.

00:35:00.000 I think it's the voters.

00:35:02.000 I think the voters are fatigued of being constantly told to fear everything.

00:35:06.000 And especially right now, you know, Trump post tweet after not deciding not to do an interview with an outlet is I think that's why so many people are looking to Twitter for news or sorry, X for news. There's a report out on Axios about the fact that young voters or young TikTok users depend on it as a source of news, which is fascinating, right?

00:35:54.000 Like part of it is they're already hooked up.

00:35:56.000 They're really into the app, but also they don't look to cable news.

00:36:00.000 They're not making it taking an hour out of their day to like read the Daily Beast front page.

00:36:04.000 They are going towards these other platforms.

00:36:06.000 Yeah. I don't know where you get your news from.

00:36:09.000 I mean, you have a teenage son.

00:36:10.000 Is he interested in politics?

00:36:12.000 No, he just stays away from it all.

00:36:15.000 Smart kid. I don't blame him, you know?

00:36:17.000 I don't...

00:36:18.000 This narrative like you're saying over the last...

00:36:21.000 I mean, they just keep on playing it over and over again.

00:36:24.000 This guy's unhinged. Whatever the merits of it, I'm like...

00:36:30.000 I would rather have the media address the fundamental question is, why is this race so close if this guy's so horrible and he's completely unhinged?

00:36:39.000 Like, there's this sort of implicit narrative in there, I think, that they think like half the country is a bunch of deplorable idiots or something like that.

00:36:45.000 And they're not looking any deeper.

00:36:48.000 They're just saying, this guy's unhinged.

00:36:50.000 He's scary.

00:36:51.000 January 6th, January 6th, January 6th.

00:36:54.000 and like, okay, well, what's the root of this?

00:36:58.000 On that, I do really think the Democrats are getting diminishing returns on their attacks

00:37:03.000 on Trump that are saying, oh, he's a threat to democracy, because again, almost half the

00:37:07.000 country supports this guy.

00:37:08.000 And it's like, do we seriously think that half the country views him in this way?

00:37:12.000 Same with January 6.

00:37:14.000 I think we're hearing dwindling amounts of those specific attacks on him.

00:37:17.000 We're seeing a zeroing in on the Project 2025 fear-mongering.

00:37:22.000 All the liberal podcasts I listen to have ads pre-rolled in front of them fear-mongering around Project 2025 and what they're trying to accomplish.

00:37:30.000 But yeah, the January 6th stuff in particular, with how much they were focusing on it in

00:37:35.000 the past and how they aren't anymore, that's also why the Liz Cheney endorsement is so

00:37:40.000 important because the reason she flipped was because of January 6th.

00:37:45.000 So uh...

00:37:46.000 Her and Kinzinger, right?

00:37:47.000 I mean, they were the only two Republicans that were on that committee and they don't

00:37:51.000 think it won them any strength among their voters or their party.

00:37:56.000 I mean, the...

00:37:57.000 The idea that January 6th is the only bad thing that's ever happened to America in the last four years is just fundamentally wrong.

00:38:04.000 All of this is very dumb because what's the real threat to democracy?

00:38:07.000 Kamala Harris didn't win any electoral votes in any primary, but she's still the Democratic's incumbent.

00:38:13.000 The Democrats want to pack the Supreme Court and nobody's blinking an eye.

00:38:16.000 But no, Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.

00:38:18.000 So again...

00:38:19.000 They don't feel ironic.

00:38:22.000 They don't look in the mirror at all.

00:38:23.000 They don't consider, oh wait, what?

00:38:25.000 And then they're also trying to overturn the filibuster.

00:38:27.000 Oh no, but the Republicans are a threat to democracy.

00:38:30.000 So I don't know, not a hint of feeling like a hypocrite at all coming from these Democrats.

00:38:35.000 And to zero in on what Kamala Harris's response to the hurricane so far has been, it's been

00:38:41.000 to complain about Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida not answering his call.

00:38:45.000 That's the response that we've seen from Kamala Harris so far.

00:38:48.000 Politicizing this tragedy that we're seeing in Florida and complaining that busy Ron DeSantis, I hope she's doing something more important than what?

00:38:55.000 Talking to Kamala Harris to accomplish what?

00:38:57.000 Nothing? For her to just tell people that she's supporting him?

00:39:00.000 Nothing. Whatever she was going to do...

00:39:04.000 Talking to Ron DeSantis isn't going to change anything with that.

00:39:07.000 Indeed. I think the Ron DeSantis thing, I think Ron was right.

00:39:11.000 And Kamala Harris is the vice president.

00:39:13.000 She's not the president. The president should be calling Ron DeSantis and asking about what's going on.

00:39:18.000 And clearly she's suffering bad internal polling.

00:39:20.000 The response to Helene was very, very bad.

00:39:23.000 So she's trying to call Ron DeSantis to make some kind of political gain.

00:39:28.000 And he says, I'm not interested in this.

00:39:29.000 Oh, well, Tim, you see, she's the acting president anyway, because Joe Biden's barely there.

00:39:35.000 Agreed. Ronda Santis doesn't know who to talk to.

00:39:37.000 She can call for invoking, she can call to invoke the 25th Amendment and have Joe Biden forced to step down, and then I will respect her trying to call Ronda Santis.

00:39:45.000 Well how about she just maybe, what about like stop campaigning for a moment and actually

00:39:49.000 focus on emergency hurricane relief.

00:39:53.000 Appalachia got killed and the government just really wasn't there and now we've got this

00:39:59.000 major super storm coming in.

00:40:01.000 To be fair, the government was there for Lebanon.

00:40:06.000 Yeah. And they were there to stop you from helping your neighbor in Appalachia.

00:40:13.000 That's what they seem to – one of the things that they seem to be doing down there.

00:40:16.000 Indeed. And then they call it fake news.

00:40:19.000 I mean there's videos of people who want to come in and offer help and they're being denied.

00:40:24.000 And then when – this is fascinating.

00:40:26.000 Did you guys see Corrine Jean-Pierre rage quit the press briefing?

00:40:30.000 So she gets asked by Peter Doocy, and he asks a very basic question.

00:40:34.000 He says something like, Biden says your budget reflects your values.

00:40:38.000 Well, he was able to find $157 million without Congress returning for Lebanon, but only $20

00:40:45.000 million is allocated towards hurricane relief.

00:40:48.000 What does that say about his values?

00:40:50.000 And then Jean-Pierre calls it misinformation.

00:40:53.000 Then within like a minute, actually inverts her argument and agrees that there's not that

00:40:59.000 They have enough just for Milton, and then after that, they're probably exhausted.

00:41:03.000 And then she gets angry and says, you know, we should get more funding, but maybe, you know, if it's not there, maybe that's what you want.

00:41:10.000 And then she storms off. And then people made fun of her weird pinstripe suit, I guess, or whatever.

00:41:14.000 It was not a good look. She looks like she's dressing like Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago, who was, again, she wore a lot of pantsuits and it was not flattering.

00:41:23.000 It's not fair that if you ever try to wear a pinstripe, they're going to call you Beetlejuice because they called her Beetlejuice and they called Lori Lightfoot Beetlejuice.

00:41:30.000 Hey, hey. The suit's okay.

00:41:33.000 Don't make fun of the suit. Look, pinstripes are a bold-fashioned choice, and we love a risk-taker in that sense, but sometimes you can't pull everything off.

00:41:39.000 And that includes continuously trying to spin the narrative here.

00:41:43.000 I mean, Corinne Jampierre is also not an effective communicator.

00:41:49.000 I mean, it was really a step down after Jen Psaki left.

00:41:52.000 Jen Psaki, you know, circled back to everything.

00:41:55.000 On the other hand, she was pretty good.

00:41:57.000 Did she really circle back to everything?

00:41:59.000 No. No, of course not. We'll circle back.

00:42:01.000 We'll circle back. But like, you know, she, even though I don't agree with probably everything she said, she was effective, right?

00:42:08.000 There's a reason that she could then exit gracefully to go get her own show.

00:42:12.000 That's not true of Karine Jean-Pierre and they haven't swapped her out.

00:42:15.000 And again, if this is the Biden-Harris' understanding of who is the best suited to communicate to the public, no wonder Kamala Harris is struggling in these interviews because whoever is prepping her is doing a bad job.

00:42:27.000 When I worked in sales, I was taught whenever I had no idea about something somebody was asking me, I was supposed to tell them, I think I know the answer, but I want to go confirm and I'll circle back with you after.

00:42:39.000 Look, there are ways to do this.

00:42:40.000 If you don't know the answer to something, just listen to the question and be like, that is a great question.

00:42:44.000 Let me go confirm for sure or let me ask the person who does.

00:42:47.000 I want to make sure I'm giving you the best information.

00:42:48.000 You can... Not have the answer and make the people feel like you're still on the team.

00:42:52.000 It's avoiding the conversation at all that's worse.

00:42:54.000 And that's basically been this White House's policy.

00:42:57.000 The thing about Jen Psaki that pisses me off is that she went from working for Joe Biden to MSNBC and like...

00:43:06.000 Two weeks right after the job.

00:43:07.000 So she didn't even skip over something.

00:43:09.000 She didn't take a year off to try to put up some facade.

00:43:12.000 Like, no, we're not totally connected.

00:43:14.000 I'm not going straight from Joe Biden's White House to the newsroom to speak on his behalf.

00:43:20.000 She didn't even write a, like, courtesy biography to give her some time.

00:43:23.000 Yeah, write a book or something. Maybe go to some other news source, like a right-wing news source to be their token liberal.

00:43:30.000 But no, she went straight to MSNBC, so...

00:43:33.000 Something to keep in mind with the incestuous relationship between media and the White House.

00:43:38.000 I do want to pull this out. This is from the Post Millennial.

00:43:40.000 So Kamala Harris goes on The View, and in this interview she mentions hurricane response and how she called Governor DeSantis.

00:43:48.000 Well, in a surprising moment, I guess, which is inflaming the conspiracy that Joe Biden is secretly MAGA and is trying to sabotage Kamala, he says in a statement, I've spoken with the governor, he's doing a great job.

00:44:02.000 So according to Post Malena, they say Biden says DeSantis is doing a great job with hurricane response after Kamala accuses Florida governor of playing political games.

00:44:10.000 We all saw Joe Biden put on that MAGA hat.

00:44:12.000 And now we have this.

00:44:14.000 So this is the clip.

00:44:16.000 Here we go. Florida has been cooperative.

00:44:19.000 He said he's gotten all that he needs.

00:44:20.000 I talked to him again yesterday.

00:44:22.000 And I said, no, you're doing a great job.

00:44:26.000 It's all being done well.

00:44:28.000 We thank you for it.

00:44:29.000 And I literally gave him my personal phone number to call.

00:44:32.000 So I don't know, there was a rough start in some places, but every governor, every governor

00:44:39.000 from Florida to North Carolina has been fully cooperative and supportive and acknowledged

00:44:45.000 what this team is doing.

00:44:47.000 So let's just break this down.

00:44:49.000 Joe Biden calls Ron DeSantis.

00:44:51.000 They have a good phone call.

00:44:52.000 He says he's doing a good job.

00:44:54.000 Kamala Harris tries to call Ron DeSantis.

00:44:56.000 He says, I'm not interested in talking to you.

00:44:57.000 This is political nonsense.

00:45:00.000 Kamala then tries playing that up in the press that, well, you know, he's playing political games.

00:45:04.000 Joe Biden just smacked her down, effectively confirming the president did contact Florida over the hurricane response.

00:45:13.000 Ron DeSantis worked perfectly alongside Joe Biden to do what they need to be doing right now.

00:45:18.000 Hopefully it's enough.

00:45:19.000 And Kamala Harris is doing God knows what.

00:45:23.000 I want to I want to double check the timeline on this, but to see which if she came out with those comments before

00:45:30.000 this, just so I got this all lined up.

00:45:33.000 But I don't know if this is on purpose or not, but it would be really funny if it were, because I know the Joe Biden White House staffers hate the Kamala Harris staffers.

00:45:42.000 There's a lot of beef between the two coalitions within the Democrat Party.

00:45:45.000 Obviously, the whole Joe Biden camp knows they got knifed.

00:45:48.000 So you have to wonder if Joe Biden's pulling some of these moves despite some of the Kamala Harris people.

00:45:54.000 The Trump hat thing saying, oh no, Ron DeSantis, we had a good chat before.

00:45:58.000 He did that. He appeared in the briefing room spontaneously and was like, she was involved in all kinds of things.

00:46:04.000 She was deeply involved in my administration despite the fact that she's definitely trying to distance herself.

00:46:09.000 Like the opposite of what they're trying to do.

00:46:11.000 And this old man Biden, I'm growing a soft spot for him after he decided to drop out.

00:46:15.000 I mean, he's very different now that he is in like legacy building.

00:46:19.000 I do not have a future in politics vote.

00:46:22.000 I mean, I don't trust him at all.

00:46:24.000 On the other hand, it is much funnier watching him basically like throw small jabs at Kamal Harris every time she tries to pretend that he doesn't exist.

00:46:32.000 I like Joe Biden now. I think he's just being his old, ruthless self.

00:46:36.000 I think he's been a ruthless politician his entire life, and now he's got this geriatric routine that he can run.

00:46:42.000 And he's not speaking another term.

00:46:44.000 He can be ruthless without facing any kind of consequence.

00:46:47.000 I saw this, okay?

00:46:49.000 Where was I? I was in...

00:46:52.000 Where were we just hanging out?

00:46:53.000 Pittsburgh. We were in Pittsburgh.

00:46:55.000 And because we went to the Butler Rally.

00:46:57.000 And on the way back, you guys know I'm a big poker player.

00:46:59.000 So we took a stop over at Rivers.

00:47:01.000 And you got to walk through security.

00:47:03.000 And as we're walking out, an old man walks through the exit as the security guard woman is yelling at him.

00:47:09.000 And he just keeps going.

00:47:11.000 Beeline straight for the casino.

00:47:12.000 And you knew when you saw him that this guy could hear her.

00:47:17.000 He was not some bumbling old man confused.

00:47:19.000 He just didn't want to go through security and then to chase him down.

00:47:22.000 And I feel kind of like that's what Joe Biden's doing right now.

00:47:26.000 Do you guys remember when Johnny Knoxville did that jackass thing where he fakes being an old person and then tries getting away with crazy shenanigans?

00:47:33.000 Because he's an old guy. I think at this point, Biden's just like, he's checked out.

00:47:37.000 He's a ruthless politician.

00:47:38.000 But now he's got the fumbling, bumbling Joe.

00:47:41.000 You know what? I'm gonna roll with it.

00:47:42.000 I'll play into it. I mean, Kamala tried to stab him in the back, and he's going down and trying to distance herself from him, and he's bear-hugging her, taking him down with her.

00:47:51.000 I loved it when he put on the Trump ad.

00:47:53.000 He said, you are my VP, and you do not thrive without me.

00:47:57.000 me. I mean, again, I don't have any sympathy for Joe Biden, but the DNC threw him a funeral

00:48:04.000 and shipped him off to California only to end up with Kamala Harris there. And like,

00:48:09.000 there is so clearly tension between the two of them. It is becoming the new best reality

00:48:13.000 show in America if you're looking at it.

00:48:16.000 I don't know why. I just remembered the horrible trade deal Biden got us in with Russia for

00:48:22.000 the WNBA player for that Russian arms dealer, Victor Booth, who's now working again.

00:48:27.000 So actually, I take that all back.

00:48:29.000 It was Brittany Griner, right? Brittany Griner.

00:48:31.000 Worst trade deal in history ever.

00:48:34.000 And now this guy's back to being an arms dealer and selling arms to Yemen.

00:48:40.000 It's funny because I know.

00:48:42.000 And that's literally the Red Sea conflict.

00:48:44.000 I'm seeing these Democrats.

00:48:45.000 They're like, what wars have Joe Biden got us into?

00:48:48.000 And it's like, well, I mean, we're funding the Ukraine war and there's U.S. special forces in Europe.

00:48:53.000 There's U.S. troops being deployed to Europe over the war in Ukraine.

00:48:56.000 We're funding that. Then we've got the Israel conflict where we built, we tried to build a pier in Gaza, and we've sent $358 million to Lebanon over their humanitarian crisis, which I don't know where that money's coming from.

00:49:08.000 So we are deeply involved in a lot of these wars, but largely the official operation in the United States that you could call a limited war is the operation in the Red Sea over the Houthi rebels.

00:49:16.000 So we had to get back this basketball player who had a, what, a pot vape?

00:49:21.000 Is that what it was? Yeah, it was a great thing.

00:49:22.000 And a vape pen.

00:49:24.000 And look, I don't want to see Brittany Griner locked up in Russia.

00:49:27.000 I'm not a fan of what Russia does or what they're doing, okay?

00:49:30.000 But you don't trade the merchant of death, which they call the guy, for a basketball player.

00:49:35.000 It's just a bad deal. You said the worst trade deal ever?

00:49:37.000 It's just funny because it's literally a sports trade deal.

00:49:40.000 It's like, okay, we want the basketball player back, and you're going to have the arms dealer who is now arming rebels.

00:49:45.000 Well... Moreover, this just encourages more bad behavior.

00:49:50.000 Now that Putin sees he's only going to take more advantage of us, he got out one of his top guys.

00:49:57.000 There was another trade deal with a German...

00:49:59.000 There was another bigger prisoner swap later, and this was a huge deal because we got all kinds of Americans back, right?

00:50:04.000 Including journalist Evan Groskowitz.

00:50:06.000 Gerskovich, we got back Paul Whelan.

00:50:08.000 There were several. But we gave up so many people.

00:50:11.000 And most of the people who were wrongfully detained in Russia that we got back were taken into Russian custody during Biden's administration, which means that Russia was like, ah, we sense weakness in the water.

00:50:24.000 As far as I remember, of the four Americans who we got released, only Paul Whelan had

00:50:31.000 been detained, not under Biden.

00:50:33.000 So what does that say to you?

00:50:34.000 That not only was Biden, his presence in the White House seemed to communicate some sort

00:50:39.000 of weakness on the negotiating table, but then he followed through by being weak at

00:50:43.000 the negotiating table.

00:50:44.000 I just don't think this is what we want here.

00:50:46.000 And I do not think that Kamala Harris communicates anything more effective on the global stage.

00:50:52.000 I don't know how you feel about it. Do you think Kamala Harris is our future power negotiator on behalf of all people in the world?

00:50:58.000 I'm just worried that she is going to be influenced by the establishment, like, you know, the military industrial complex, whatever you want to call it, because she doesn't seem to me to have any core principles.

00:51:14.000 That's what really, really, really concerns me.

00:51:17.000 You don't believe her when she says, but my values haven't changed.

00:51:20.000 No, I don't. Because I think your values change all the time with whatever's politically expedient.

00:51:27.000 But what about Trump?

00:51:28.000 And I hate to do the what about, but do you feel Trump is any better off in that circumstance?

00:51:35.000 Trump, to me, from what I can tell, doesn't like foreign wars, right?

00:51:41.000 Like, I don't remember us getting into a war...

00:51:46.000 During his presidency, I remember him assassinating the Iranian head of what is that?

00:51:52.000 Yeah, the guy he assassinated.

00:51:55.000 But he's curiously, I think, of that sort of isolationist school, which I welcome.

00:52:03.000 My entire life, I think the United States has been involved in some kind of war.

00:52:08.000 And I think, you know, right now, I think things could spin out of control and you could get World War III. I hope not, right?

00:52:16.000 I hope that's just like crazy speculation.

00:52:18.000 But you got a hot war in the Middle East.

00:52:22.000 You've got the Ukrainians pushing into Russia, you know, and, you know, the stuff.

00:52:28.000 And the Red Sea shutting down shipping.

00:52:29.000 I mean, the Houthi rebels in the Red Sea.

00:52:31.000 What is she going to do about that?

00:52:34.000 Are you going to vote for Trump?

00:52:36.000 I don't know if I'm voting at all.

00:52:38.000 I don't know. What state are you living in?

00:52:41.000 It doesn't matter in New York, right?

00:52:43.000 New York, it's like...

00:52:44.000 It matters down ticket. It does.

00:52:46.000 Wait, it depends on Brooklyn?

00:52:49.000 Brooklyn, man. Brooklyn's so democratic.

00:52:51.000 So yeah, even down ticket, your vote doesn't even matter.

00:52:54.000 It matters.

00:52:55.000 It matters. Look, they say in AOC's district, you have something like 150,000 Republicans, and that is around the amount of people who vote.

00:53:05.000 Like, AOC ends up winning her congressional seat with—let's actually pull up the numbers.

00:53:11.000 Let me pull up Ballotpedia. What is she, New York 14?

00:53:14.000 Something like that, right?

00:53:15.000 But when she first ran, she was running against a guy who didn't even live in New York.

00:53:19.000 He was like—I think he was like down here somewhere, basically.

00:53:22.000 82,000 votes.

00:53:23.000 Yeah, yeah. 82,000 votes to win her seat in 2022.

00:53:28.000 775,000 people there.

00:53:29.000 And they say that there's around 150 or so thousand more conservative, moderate to conservative leading individuals.

00:53:34.000 If people just told them, bro, your vote matters substantially more because only 82,000.

00:53:40.000 Tina Forte, the Republican, got 31,000 votes.

00:53:43.000 $31,000. You only needed another $50,000 out of the $775,000.

00:53:48.000 Let's just say out of the $675,000 available after the fact.

00:53:54.000 You just need $50,000 of those and boom, a Republican wins New York 14.

00:53:59.000 It can be done. Not that I think the Republican Party is doing great things, but I'm saying if you're in these jurisdictions, don't think that just because it's D plus 25 or D plus 30, you're going to lose.

00:54:12.000 Your vote always matters.

00:54:13.000 It's the demoralization.

00:54:15.000 That's what creates these problems.

00:54:18.000 When Republicans say, we're not going to spend money there, what's the point?

00:54:21.000 Trump's got ads. I don't know if it's PACs or whatever.

00:54:24.000 In New York. So it matters.

00:54:26.000 Although I'm not telling you you have to vote for Donald Trump.

00:54:29.000 I make the arguments to Ian because Ian hates Trump.

00:54:32.000 He watches that debate and then he starts saying, why vote for Trump?

00:54:35.000 All the guy does is talk about his ego.

00:54:37.000 Nobody leaves my rows. I got the best rallies.

00:54:39.000 And I think the Trump supporters got to understand that there's a lot of people like Ian.

00:54:44.000 They don't like Trump's attitude.

00:54:46.000 OK, but I told Ian.

00:54:48.000 You know why you're going to vote for Donald Trump?

00:54:49.000 Because RFK Jr.

00:54:51.000 is in the administration, because Tulsi Gabbard is, because Elon Musk is.

00:54:56.000 And you basically have this eclectic administration staring you in the face.

00:55:00.000 If you only care about war, you're like, I'm sick of the wars.

00:55:04.000 Tulsi Gabbard, she's right there.

00:55:05.000 She's advising Donald Trump, and she's going to be in that administration.

00:55:08.000 That's what I'm excited for.

00:55:10.000 RFK Jr., make America healthy again?

00:55:13.000 He's saying we've got environmental toxins, plastics leaching into our food.

00:55:17.000 We've got chronic illness and big pharma exploiting it.

00:55:19.000 And I'm like, man, right there.

00:55:21.000 So I got to say, if you don't like Donald Trump, I got bad news for you.

00:55:27.000 You might say, Kamala, you know, what was it?

00:55:29.000 Howard Stern on his show said...

00:55:31.000 I can't believe it's a close election.

00:55:34.000 He's like, I'm going to vote for you, but I'd vote for that wall over there.

00:55:37.000 I got bad news for you.

00:55:39.000 You may think Trump is the worst guy ever, okay?

00:55:42.000 If you vote for Kamala Harris, guess who you're getting in her coalition?

00:55:46.000 You know who you're getting in that coalition, right?

00:55:49.000 Who am I getting in there? Dick Cheney.

00:55:51.000 That's right. The Kamala Harris-Liz and Dick Cheney coalition with the Lincoln Project and other neocons, George W. Bush, who've joined alongside Kamala Harris to protect what?

00:56:03.000 The military-industrial complex?

00:56:04.000 Look. You come to me and you say, I just can't stand Donald Trump.

00:56:09.000 He's a bad guy.

00:56:10.000 He's crass. He's crude.

00:56:12.000 He's insulting. He likes decorum.

00:56:13.000 His tweets, his posts, he besmirches the office and I'm like, okay, okay, okay.

00:56:18.000 I understand your thoughts and feelings on this.

00:56:21.000 How would you like an RFK Jr.

00:56:23.000 Tulsi Gabbard administration?

00:56:24.000 Because I got to tell you, I would want nothing more.

00:56:27.000 And if I can't have them directly, having them as advisors in the administration and overseeing large components of it sounds like grand slam.

00:56:34.000 So, rag on Trump.

00:56:35.000 I think, for me, I'll put it this way.

00:56:38.000 We can throw everything out the window.

00:56:40.000 No new wars under Donald Trump.

00:56:42.000 Okay? There were problems with drone strikes.

00:56:44.000 There were problems with drone strike transparency.

00:56:45.000 I will concede that 100% to all the libertarians who bring it up every single time.

00:56:48.000 No new wars. So if you're a realist and you're looking at the margins, what is my percentage gain from my actions?

00:56:56.000 I look at it, you know, I like poker, right?

00:56:58.000 Poker has EV positive, expected value positive or negative.

00:57:02.000 Is the move I make going to give me a positive or a negative outcome?

00:57:07.000 You're not going to get President Tulsi Gabbard right now.

00:57:10.000 I'd love that. You're not going to get President RFK Jr.

00:57:13.000 right now. I'd like that too. They're both a little progressive in some areas more so than I'd like.

00:57:18.000 But I actually honestly prefer them a little bit more than Trump.

00:57:20.000 But Trump is the more likely candidate to win.

00:57:22.000 He's got the X factor and the charisma and the base.

00:57:25.000 And so I just say this.

00:57:26.000 Donald Trump is the first time in my lifetime I've seen what I would describe as a net positive presidency.

00:57:31.000 The economy was doing really well, but there were problems with spending.

00:57:34.000 Deficit was going up. That's a bad thing.

00:57:36.000 Economy was a good thing. Trying to bring about peace, especially in the Korean Peninsula.

00:57:40.000 No new wars. Abraham Accords.

00:57:43.000 I mean, Elad, for heaven's sake, economic normalization with Israel and Muslim nations.

00:57:48.000 That, to me, was shockingly incredible.

00:57:51.000 Not perfect. Lots of problems.

00:57:53.000 But if we're looking at a 1-2% net positive, I'm like, wow!

00:57:57.000 The past administrations of my life have been negative for so many reasons.

00:58:01.000 George W. Bush, Iraq and Afghanistan, disasters.

00:58:04.000 Barack Obama, the big corporate bailouts, disaster.

00:58:07.000 And escalation of war in the Middle East itself.

00:58:10.000 And then Donald Trump comes in with his loud mouth and his naughty words, and he insults people, and a lot of people don't like it.

00:58:18.000 Then we got no new wars.

00:58:19.000 And I didn't vote for him in 16, and it wasn't until 2020 when I was like, I got people screaming in my ears, if you're so big on foreign policy and you like Tulsi Gabbard, but Tulsi Gabbard is out.

00:58:29.000 Trump's the no-war candidate. What do we have under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?

00:58:32.000 We have this fake war.

00:58:36.000 I call it fake in that they're claiming we're not actually at war.

00:58:39.000 Dude, we are at war with Russia.

00:58:41.000 No one in their right mind who analyzes geopolitics and conflict is looking at the Ukraine-Russia conflict and saying, that's just Ukraine.

00:58:47.000 It has nothing to do with the United States. No, it is NATO versus Russia, period.

00:58:51.000 Then we have the escalation of conflict with Israel.

00:58:53.000 I don't believe that—and you look—it's fascinating that Kamala Harris is— Two days before October 7th, putting out a tweet about how she's going to give $400 million to the poor people of Lebanon.

00:59:07.000 It's like, there's a war going on, okay?

00:59:10.000 It is a conflict involving a U.S. ally.

00:59:13.000 Why are you blasting this message out to the people?

00:59:16.000 It's almost like you're sabotaging your own campaign.

00:59:18.000 But I digress. The conflict in the Red Sea, limited warfare, the expansion of conflict in the Middle East leading us to potentially World War III. Kamala Harris says in the CBS interview, Iran is our greatest adversary and we could be inching towards World War III or something to that effect.

00:59:34.000 And I'm like... Great.

00:59:37.000 Trump leaves office. And once again, we are on a massive downward spiral towards oblivion that wasn't happening under Donald Trump.

00:59:45.000 So that's why I'm just like, criticize Trump every day of the week.

00:59:49.000 He deserves it often.

00:59:51.000 But no new wars.

00:59:53.000 RFK and Chelsea Gabbard, I'll take it.

00:59:55.000 Sorry. He's not a war monger, is he?

00:59:57.000 No. And you know what it is?

00:59:59.000 I think Trump's got an ego.

01:00:01.000 I think he's got an ego problem that can be a positive.

01:00:06.000 Now, I know a lot of these Trump diehards.

01:00:08.000 They say, no, Tim, Trump's altruistic.

01:00:10.000 He doesn't have an ego. He does not.

01:00:12.000 Never going to believe it for a second.

01:00:14.000 The guy's got his name on all these buildings everywhere.

01:00:16.000 He certainly believes in himself.

01:00:18.000 He thinks he's smarter than a lot of people.

01:00:19.000 And I'm not mad at him for that, nor trying to disrespect him for believing that.

01:00:22.000 He certainly is smarter than a lot of people.

01:00:24.000 He's proven he's a billionaire, right?

01:00:26.000 But I see in Donald Trump a man who wants to be loved and respected.

01:00:31.000 And the path to doing that is effectively solving problems.

01:00:36.000 My view of Donald Trump is that he's sitting there being like, okay, we're going to get this war taken care of.

01:00:42.000 I think Trump was in there being like, how do we solve the Israel-Palestine issue?

01:00:45.000 And then you got all these military and deep state people being like, it's impossible.

01:00:49.000 You're not going to do it. We're going to compromise.

01:00:51.000 And in Trump's mind, he's thinking, I want to be in a parade where everyone's clapping and cheering, saying peace in the Middle East.

01:00:58.000 I want everyone clapping and cheering, saying peace in the Korean Peninsula, avoiding war.

01:01:03.000 He wants people to love him.

01:01:05.000 And that's something a lot of these politicians don't actually care about.

01:01:07.000 They want your vote, and they don't care if you hate them.

01:01:09.000 They expect you to. But Trump wants that recognition.

01:01:13.000 He wants his name to be recognized.

01:01:14.000 It's a good thing.

01:01:16.000 It means that his motives are you the people because he is desperate for that affection, whereas the politicians are like, we don't know.

01:01:23.000 We don't care about you. We want to extract value and prop our lives up.

01:01:26.000 One of the really effective things that Trump does is that he says so many things that he could be so many things, different things, to so many different people.

01:01:36.000 And people could project whatever they want onto him.

01:01:39.000 Tim, just a quick rebuttal to that.

01:01:41.000 I wouldn't prefer RFK Jr.

01:01:43.000 or Tulsi Gabbard to Trump.

01:01:46.000 And the things I like Trump the most are things that I think they'd say are bad about him.

01:01:51.000 Sure. Which is why it's this interesting reversal.

01:01:54.000 I'm sure they would have said the first Trump term was very neoconish because he had people like John Bolton, Mike Pompeo.

01:02:00.000 People, maybe not John Bolton, he had Nikki Haley in the UN. He did have Bolton.

01:02:06.000 I'd expect to see more of these people or people like them in the next administration as well.

01:02:11.000 And I think he believed in peace through strength.

01:02:14.000 Yes. Which is why we have peace.

01:02:15.000 And that's not what I think RFK or Tulsi Gabbard believes in.

01:02:17.000 No, and I agree. I agree.

01:02:18.000 But my point is this.

01:02:19.000 You're a Bolton bro. I believe in peace through strength.

01:02:24.000 Good rebranding. So you're voting for Trump, right?

01:02:27.000 I abstain from voting because I'm a journalist and have some shallow hiccups over that.

01:02:32.000 Do you like that? Because, hey, if I'm Brian Whitaker, I can't say, hey, I ever voted.

01:02:37.000 If you're a journalist, you could...

01:02:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take that.

01:02:40.000 Isn't it a nice cop-out? But I can respect that.

01:02:43.000 And I actually...

01:02:44.000 Several years ago, when I was doing field reporting interviews, I felt the exact same way.

01:02:48.000 But my position is... I would vote for Donald Trump for his track record on peace.

01:02:53.000 Far from perfect, but the best I've ever seen.

01:02:56.000 Now I'm just like, I've never been more excited for a presidential administration.

01:03:01.000 Because Tulsi Gabbard represented my values largely when it came to foreign policy more than Trump.

01:03:05.000 Trump had Bolton. I did not like it.

01:03:07.000 You are correct. But it was peace.

01:03:08.000 It resulted in peace.

01:03:10.000 No, he got rid of Bolton. Bolton stabbed him in the back.

01:03:12.000 And he said that was a mistake.

01:03:14.000 Okay.

01:03:15.000 Tulsi Gabbard was who I wanted to get.

01:03:17.000 And when I wanted to be president, I supported her.

01:03:19.000 I'm like, she had gun policies I wasn't a complete fan of, but there's a few things

01:03:24.000 that I think she could turn around on.

01:03:26.000 And I think she's proven absolutely with her track record as of the past four years that

01:03:32.000 I am correct that she is a good candidate in what we are looking to achieve.

01:03:37.000 With RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard joining Trump, I feel that disaffected liberals and post-liberals

01:03:42.000 now have an easy path towards why Donald Trump is the right vote.

01:03:46.000 Because it's not about Trump.

01:03:47.000 It's about an administration we've been hoping for, for our entire lives.

01:03:51.000 Tulsi Gabbard has said that she doesn't believe we should defend Taiwan in case of a Chinese attack.

01:03:56.000 If she was ever elected to, brought up into any position that mattered relative to the military.

01:04:01.000 Stop, stop. I already like her. That would be so weak, and that would just be the perfect letter to Xi.

01:04:06.000 Dear Xi, we will not come to Taiwan's defense.

01:04:09.000 Please go invade them.

01:04:10.000 I couldn't think of a better thing for Xi Jinping to want to say.

01:04:15.000 A clearer message to them that, hey, Xi Jinping, the South China Sea is all yours.

01:04:20.000 I, Tulsi Gabbard, am weak and limp-wristed.

01:04:23.000 I will not challenge your authority at all in the South China Sea.

01:04:27.000 And guess what? Persians, Iranians, do whatever you want in the Middle East.

01:04:31.000 That's all yours. Her message to Russia is, hey, I don't want to fund or support Ukraine at all.

01:04:36.000 You could take more than the dumbass.

01:04:38.000 You could take, you know, make your way to Kiev.

01:04:39.000 I don't want to get involved.

01:04:41.000 It's her position. I already told you I like Tulsi Gabbard.

01:04:46.000 I think it's just opposite to what we've been seeing from Trump in his first turn.

01:04:51.000 And that's the thing about Trump.

01:04:52.000 You could project onto him what you want from him.

01:04:55.000 No, no, no. But listen, I think you're taking a harsher stance on what Tulsi Gabbard is saying and what she means and how the resolution with Ukraine and Taiwan would come about.

01:05:04.000 The resolution with Ukraine is not fund more war.

01:05:08.000 Trump said it best, I want the killing to stop.

01:05:11.000 I see Trump's resolution with his conflict of going to Russia and saying, you're stopping or we're starting.

01:05:17.000 And I'm going to tell Ukraine to shut up and we're going to figure out how we get this resolved.

01:05:20.000 What does Russia want? They need land access to their industrial and naval port in Sevastopol.

01:05:25.000 Yeah, but while Trump is you're stopping or we're starting, I think Tulsi Gabbard is you're stopping or we're also definitely stopping.

01:05:33.000 I don't think so. Oh, definitely.

01:05:34.000 I don't think Tulsi Gabbard, even if Putin doesn't want...

01:05:37.000 Have you heard her talk about the Middle East?

01:05:39.000 I got to question Tulsi Gabbard when she ran for president.

01:05:43.000 I went up to her in New Hampshire and asked her about the Taiwan thing specifically.

01:05:46.000 And she said, no, we have no reason to be involved with defending Taiwan.

01:05:50.000 And I think that's a topic.

01:05:52.000 What are our interests in defending Taiwan?

01:05:54.000 It's a very important and good conversation to go have.

01:05:57.000 It'll take a long time to talk about it.

01:05:59.000 But if you wanted to delve in, I'm down to we have allies in the area, South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, also like something like 40% of world trade transit, the South China Sea.

01:06:11.000 Taiwan is a leader in microchips that are essential for any first world.

01:06:16.000 No, they should be made here in America.

01:06:17.000 They should be, but they won't be able to be made for at least the next decade.

01:06:23.000 This so-called Silicon Shield that Taiwan's developed over the past 20-some odd years.

01:06:27.000 I'm sorry. It is absurd to me that the United States has invested so much in the defense of Taiwan.

01:06:34.000 I do not like the Chinese Communist Party.

01:06:36.000 I do not like the Chinese Communist Revolution.

01:06:38.000 I don't like the Culture Revolution.

01:06:40.000 I don't like... What most of what largely they've done, I wish the government of Taiwan, the true Republic of China, was still in control of the mainland and weren't forced onto that island.

01:06:50.000 But it is a tiny island with limited industry.

01:06:53.000 We should be building those resources here.

01:06:55.000 We should be securing our borders, getting better trade agreements and working for the American people.

01:07:00.000 I do think I would not go as far as Tulsi in saying we outright abandon Taiwan, but the answers need to be—it's a mix.

01:07:09.000 I think we need peace through strength.

01:07:11.000 That's why I liked, to a certain degree, when Trump said that Xi and Putin thought he was going to nuke Beijing and Moscow if they invaded, and he was like, I don't know if they really believed me, maybe 5%, but it was enough.

01:07:23.000 And I'm like, I don't want to see anybody get nuked, but I like that they feared Donald Trump.

01:07:28.000 Hopefully we don't have to go to war, and there'll never be an issue, because Trump is quote-unquote the madman, and she is going to be like, well, as long as Donald Trump is president, we're not making any moves, because this guy, who knows what he's going to do?

01:07:41.000 He's going to bomb something.

01:07:43.000 I do not want to surrender Taiwan and our other democratic allies to the communists.

01:07:49.000 I'm anti-whatever supports that.

01:07:53.000 Are we going to fight a war with China?

01:07:59.000 You're old enough. We've fought wars with China.

01:08:01.000 Yeah, and that was...

01:08:02.000 And we fought, yeah, at Heartbreak Ridge, and we went to a stalemate, and we're still...

01:08:07.000 It's like this, we have these like fossilized foreign policy, like, positions that come out of the post-World War

01:08:14.000 II order that I just don't think have any... shouldn't have any real

01:08:18.000 traction now, but just are just getting...

01:08:20.000 Like, okay, you're going to stop China from what they're doing in the South China Sea right now?

01:08:26.000 Nobody's stopping them. They're doing it under the Biden administration. They did it under the Trump administration.

01:08:32.000 They're just taking their space.

01:08:34.000 And we're going to get into a massive war with a country of a couple billion people with incredibly sophisticated

01:08:40.000 weapons, a world nuclear power over some island, because in 19...

01:08:44.000 what, it was in 47, Chiang Kai-shek had to split there, and, you know, we're all anti-communists, and we hate the

01:08:50.000 communists, so we're going to go kill, like, what, hundreds of thousands of Americans over this island because

01:08:56.000 we can't produce semiconductors in the United States anymore

01:08:59.000 because it all got offshored in the frickin' 90s?

01:09:03.000 No way, man. Like, put your own son up for that crap, man.

01:09:06.000 Like, the same thing I feel like with what's going on in the Middle East.

01:09:09.000 Why are we fighting these wars?

01:09:10.000 Why are we spending all this money when we can't even balance our budget?

01:09:14.000 We're spending most of our tax money just paying the interest on our debt.

01:09:18.000 If I ran my house the way that the frickin' government is running things, I'd just, I'd be bankrupt.

01:09:25.000 You know, like, we can't afford this.

01:09:27.000 Like, we got to get off this, like, macho, you know, we're the global cop, right?

01:09:31.000 And, like, this notion of China is from, like, 1940.

01:09:34.000 I'm sorry, they're a freaking superpower, man.

01:09:37.000 Like, I don't want to fight the Han Chinese.

01:09:39.000 That's crazy. I guess my response would be...

01:09:43.000 The reason why peace exists now and will continue to exist in that region is because we are strong there.

01:09:50.000 And the second we started getting weak and that Xi Jinping thought he will be militaristically able to conquer Taiwan, he would.

01:09:58.000 As soon as he sees them be weak enough.

01:10:00.000 As soon as Putin saw Ukraine weak enough, he thought it's his opportunity to attack.

01:10:04.000 And you feel like we became weak under the Biden invitation or did it happen before that?

01:10:07.000 Whenever the threshold happens.

01:10:09.000 So it's different for each conflict.

01:10:10.000 So for Taiwan, it hasn't happened yet because we still stand firmly with Taiwan.

01:10:15.000 Threshold was reached in Ukraine, obviously.

01:10:17.000 China has obviously made different moves throughout that region where people feel like they are sort of amping up their military prowess and aggression.

01:10:24.000 So is that them saying the Biden administration is weak?

01:10:27.000 Did this start happening before?

01:10:28.000 I mean, it hasn't.

01:10:30.000 The scale hasn't tipped yet.

01:10:32.000 It's a philosophical thing. When Xi Jinping believes he is militaristically capable of taking Taiwan, that's when he will.

01:10:39.000 I just want to say something real quick to the audience, those that are listening.

01:10:42.000 We have currently about 50,000 concurrent viewers watching.

01:10:45.000 And I just want to say you guys rock and I deeply respect all of you.

01:10:48.000 I sincerely mean this because it warms my heart that we are having this ridiculously esoteric

01:10:54.000 geopolitical conversation about war and conflict that I think is some of the most important stuff in the world.

01:10:59.000 It matters more to me than almost anything else, and there are so many people that are deeply interested in hearing it.

01:11:04.000 I genuinely am just in awe that people are here for this conversation.

01:11:09.000 It's just really, really awesome, guys.

01:11:11.000 So, Elad, anyway, you're wrong, and...

01:11:16.000 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

01:11:18.000 I mean, I hope for peace and the way to achieve it is through strength.

01:11:21.000 And that's why I thought there was peace during the Trump administration.

01:11:25.000 And by the way, it's not that America wasn't involved in any new wars.

01:11:29.000 It's that conflicts that were occurring were cooling down.

01:11:33.000 Fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan, where America is very tangentially related, isn't flaming up during the Trump administration.

01:11:40.000 The Philippines isn't getting harassed by China as much during a Trump administration than they are now under a Joe Biden administration.

01:11:47.000 So it's not only an actual war that, you know, weren't occurring under Trump.

01:11:53.000 It was generally countries were more calm because they were scared of the threats that Trump was making to them because he's the master dealmaker.

01:12:01.000 He's more unpredictable, for sure.

01:12:02.000 I just say, how about this?

01:12:04.000 I think it all comes down to we're going to argue about who should be doing what, when, or why.

01:12:09.000 But under Donald Trump, it was good.

01:12:13.000 I'll say this every day.

01:12:14.000 When he crossed the DMZ with Kim Jong-un with no security detail, walking over to North Korea and walking back, that was one of the most incredible moments I have ever seen.

01:12:25.000 I'm talking to the libertarians at the convention, and they're ragging on Trump all the time, and I said, but he, with Kim Jong-un, crossed the DMZ, and they're, okay, that was really good.

01:12:36.000 I mean, they could have—he had no security—they could have just taken him and said, we got a hostage in the president.

01:12:40.000 What are you going to do about it? They're not going to.

01:12:42.000 And so Trump, with great personal risk, tries to bring peace.

01:12:47.000 And I think the reason is Trump's got an ego.

01:12:51.000 I think Trump is a good person.

01:12:54.000 I think if you know him, if you know people around him, you'll hear nothing but praise for the man.

01:13:00.000 He's got his attitude.

01:13:01.000 He's got his mean tweets and nobody's perfect.

01:13:03.000 But I think a combination of Trump wants to be loved and Trump wants to accomplish, drive him towards these peace efforts.

01:13:11.000 What is he thinking? Most people want peace.

01:13:13.000 Nobody wants war. Now, the military-industrial complex, the liberal economic order, they want war because it is a mechanism by which they can control regions and, you know, basically expand their influence with the petrodollar, IMF, World Bank, etc., etc.

01:13:28.000 It's good for business. Absolutely.

01:13:30.000 Donald Trump says, no, no, no, no, no.

01:13:31.000 People want something else.

01:13:33.000 The machine state says, we don't care what they want.

01:13:36.000 We want control and to maintain exactly what we're building.

01:13:40.000 Trump's motivation is then peace everywhere.

01:13:44.000 Now, there is a fear, in my opinion, that—I wouldn't call Trump an isolationist.

01:13:50.000 You were saying he was more of that thought.

01:13:51.000 Because he does believe that we should, you know, to an extent, we are with NATO,

01:13:55.000 they've just got to pay their fair share, right?

01:13:57.000 NATO should be paying the bills.

01:13:58.000 So Trump is not completely just seal up America and walk away from everything.

01:14:02.000 However, I do fear, and I think you're correct on this to a certain degree, Elad,

01:14:06.000 the Chinese Communist Party, the Belt and Road Initiative, the expansion they're doing in Africa

01:14:10.000 and South America is to position themselves as the superpower, and then, heaven forbid,

01:14:17.000 we as freedom-loving people have to live under a unipolar Chinese communist boot.

01:14:23.000 That is worrisome to me.

01:14:25.000 I don't believe the Bolton method is the path toward stopping that.

01:14:29.000 I actually think the Trump method is the path toward stopping that.

01:14:32.000 That's why I like Donald Trump.

01:14:34.000 Again, we had problems with spending.

01:14:36.000 The deficit went through the roof.

01:14:38.000 He's far from perfect. We had drone strikes increasing.

01:14:40.000 There's criticisms and questions about why and transparency on that was removed.

01:14:44.000 But the end result of what we saw was some of the best stuff I've seen in my life.

01:14:48.000 Just to piggyback on that, Trump did eventually get some NATO countries to increase where their target spending was supposed to be.

01:14:56.000 Each NATO country is supposed to have like a certain percent of GDP going towards their military.

01:15:00.000 Many of them were slacking.

01:15:02.000 Trump famously was threatening a lot of these countries that he'd pull out if they didn't pull their fair share.

01:15:07.000 And then there's this also very famous picture of Trump, which I believe is at one of these

01:15:11.000 NATO conferences, where he's sitting at a table and then you have Angela Merkel kind

01:15:15.000 of standing above him with her hands on the table.

01:15:18.000 And then you have the Japanese prime minister standing by him and then also famously John

01:15:22.000 Bolton also nearby.

01:15:24.000 Donald Trump also got the Japanese to start to change their constitution to allow their

01:15:30.000 military to be more foreign and not just domestic.

01:15:34.000 Some esoteric thing in the Japanese constitution that allowed them to beef up their military,

01:15:38.000 which is very important.

01:15:39.000 So again, peace through strength is how I believe we got there.

01:15:42.000 And I think that's how Trump is going to be able to maintain that when God willing, he

01:15:46.000 gets back into office.

01:15:48.000 We wrote the Japanese constitution after World War Two, and I think we had some pacifist

01:15:52.000 We wrote it purposefully pacifistic, but now we want them to be a little bit more hawkish towards our common enemy and the communist Chinese.

01:16:01.000 What could go wrong? You know, look, I think the harsh reality is, especially as you get older, there is no There's no end.

01:16:13.000 You know, the activists, they say the ends justify the means, but that's not true because you never meet the end.

01:16:18.000 And so right now we say, here's what we want to have happened.

01:16:21.000 Here's what we want to happen.

01:16:23.000 Here's what we hope will happen.

01:16:25.000 We wish there was no war.

01:16:27.000 We wish October 7th never happened.

01:16:29.000 Now we're in it. We're facing war.

01:16:31.000 What do we want to accomplish?

01:16:32.000 An end to that war so that we hope in the future we can live in peace.

01:16:37.000 I'm sorry, I think that's impossible.

01:16:39.000 And I'm not trying to be blackpilled or negative.

01:16:41.000 I just think the state of life is a flux of various ideologies, and this is the nature of human social development, evolution, and literal evolution.

01:16:51.000 You have warring factions and ideologies deciding what should or should not be competing for resources.

01:16:57.000 Water wars at first, but now you have China saying, we want to grow.

01:17:02.000 Our people want to have families.

01:17:04.000 They want to build new houses.

01:17:06.000 We need resources for that.

01:17:08.000 We're going to go find them. There's not going to be a point where we accomplish a goal and then everything stops.

01:17:15.000 And then it's like the year 2173 and they were like, wow, in the year 2082, it's when all war was done and peace was just permanent forever and everyone got along.

01:17:24.000 No, that's impossible.

01:17:25.000 Because you will always get, no matter what you do, Some kind of fight that spirals out between people who cannot agree on their worldviews.

01:17:48.000 We can elect Donald Trump now.

01:17:50.000 We can strive for these things.

01:17:51.000 But China will always be pushing back.

01:17:53.000 And if not China, another country emerges.

01:17:55.000 Another power emerges. We're always going to be staring down the barrel of great conflict.

01:17:59.000 Maybe we colonize Mars with Elon Musk.

01:18:01.000 And a thousand years from now, Earth is unified, but now we're at war with Mars or something.

01:18:04.000 Who knows? But why do we need a standing army when we have nuclear weapons?

01:18:11.000 Because nuclear weapons can't occupy street corners.

01:18:14.000 So you can turn the glass.

01:18:16.000 And the question of war is what is the purpose of war?

01:18:20.000 There's several different purposes.

01:18:23.000 One is someone is attacking you and you need them to stop, in which case a nuclear weapon serves that purpose greatly.

01:18:30.000 If Ukraine had a nuke, I think they might fire it at Russia.

01:18:33.000 I don't know. Russia is too big.

01:18:34.000 Russia might retaliate. Well, they gave up their nuclear weapons and Russia invaded, right?

01:18:38.000 Like they gave up their – How's Russia going to invade Ukraine with nukes?

01:18:42.000 It's hard to, once you just nuke a country.

01:18:44.000 Well, it depends on what they want.

01:18:46.000 If Russia wants land access to Crimea, where they have their military base and industrial center in Sevastopol, nukes are just fine.

01:18:54.000 They could flatten every major Ukrainian city overnight with intercontinental ballistic missiles, and then there's no opposition whatsoever, and they walk on in.

01:19:03.000 They can't, however, because there's opposition.

01:19:05.000 The West, NATO, won't allow that, so they can't escalate to that point.

01:19:09.000 War is basically, in many instances, resource conflict.

01:19:13.000 So Russia, of course, needs access to Crimea, Sevastopol.

01:19:19.000 They took it because NATO and the EU were pressing into Ukraine and winning favor with Ukraine, their government, their structures.

01:19:24.000 And this is largely due to energy, gas problem, etc.

01:19:27.000 And Europe wanting cheaper gas prices where Russia controlled the majority of it.

01:19:32.000 The West wants Russia to fall in line and provide them cheaper energy so their economy can expand and we can overwhelm China effectively economically.

01:19:40.000 At least that's what they claim.

01:19:42.000 So the end result is basically this.

01:19:44.000 Someone amasses power somehow.

01:19:46.000 They want to keep amassing power.

01:19:49.000 Someone will oppose their amassing of power and you end up with Thucydides trap.

01:19:54.000 When a rising economic power is on the verge of displacing the dominant power, there's a tendency to lead to great war.

01:20:01.000 Yeah.

01:20:06.000 world peace in the future. Again, it sounds very negative, but what I mean to say is there's always going to be

01:20:13.000 conflict in some fashion or another.

01:20:14.000 Maybe we can get to the point where you have an international court system that handles things, but that

01:20:21.000 would only be possible with a monopoly on violence, some entity that has a monopoly on violence.

01:20:25.000 So if the liberal economic order succeeds and subjugates the rest of the planet, then you've just got the totalitarian

01:20:31.000 state of jackboot UN troops coming down and kicking your door in and saying your meme is illegal, which then results

01:20:37.000 in conflict.

01:20:38.000 People rise up, dissent, then you get conflict in regions, be it terror, insurgency, whatever.

01:20:44.000 That's the FBI that kicks in your door and says your memes illegal

01:20:48.000 That's true. But, I mean, I'm saying in the future when the global tyranny expands and you get these massive international blocs, it's going to be UN troops or something.

01:20:57.000 Tim, to follow up on what is war, there's a Prussian military theorist, Karl von Kloth, who said war is politics by any means.

01:21:05.000 And I think that's a really apt description in understanding how war plays out between nations.

01:21:12.000 But what is politics? Politics is getting other groups of people to do what you want them to do.

01:21:16.000 Exactly. And so right now, there are various ways to go about that.

01:21:20.000 The easiest, of course, is media manipulation.

01:21:23.000 If you went back to the 1500s, great wars in Europe, granted the armies weren't nearly as big as we see them now, and you went to the king and said, I tell you this, I will get the people of, let's say, England versus France, every single French subject, Every single one of them will bow before the king.

01:21:44.000 I don't know my years, so I don't know when they were actually fighting or whatever.

01:21:46.000 All the time. All the time.

01:21:48.000 You will raise not one sword, you will fire not one arrow, and they will bow before you.

01:21:54.000 Would you accept those terms?

01:21:55.000 Of course. We want them to surrender.

01:21:58.000 We don't want to have people die.

01:22:00.000 It's a waste of our energy and resources.

01:22:02.000 More men is better for us.

01:22:04.000 How do we conquer them without fighting?

01:22:07.000 Here's Facebook. And then you create a generation of people who hate the king.

01:22:33.000 And then the opposing force can just say, I'm here to save you.

01:22:36.000 And they go, yay, because their minds have been changed over a long period of time.

01:22:40.000 Cyber war, multidimensional warfare.

01:22:43.000 This is where we're currently at.

01:22:44.000 But I think you make a good point.

01:22:46.000 War, it takes many forms.

01:22:48.000 And what we're seeing with kinetic conflict is politics by any means.

01:22:52.000 When Russia lost the influence battle trying to basically buy out Ukraine as the West was trying to buy out Ukraine, they said, OK, we can't win anymore.

01:22:59.000 Send in the tanks. We weren't able to overthrow the pro-Western Ukrainian government, so I guess it's war.

01:23:07.000 We couldn't achieve our political aims.

01:23:09.000 Well, because the West overthrew the more moderate Yanukovych government.

01:23:12.000 We couldn't achieve our aims politically, so we're forced into violence.

01:23:16.000 I actually think it's fair to say Western influence resulted in the ousting of Yanukovych in Ukraine, and in conflict, I say that's preferable to sending in tanks.

01:23:27.000 Well, it's like then Putin tried poisoning.

01:23:30.000 I forget which prime minister of Ukraine.

01:23:33.000 All their names sound the same to me.

01:23:35.000 But again, he wasn't able to do this stuff successfully.

01:23:38.000 It's sending the troops.

01:23:40.000 And we do this too. This isn't unique.

01:23:42.000 I mean, I think that's how a lot of people think about structure and power.

01:23:44.000 It's all nation states do this.

01:23:45.000 I do rightly enjoy a good, hearty foreign policy discussion.

01:23:51.000 But let's talk about Howard Stern.

01:23:52.000 Because we got time for one more segment, and we got the story from the New York Times.

01:23:56.000 Thirteen things we learned from Harris' interview with Howard Stern.

01:24:00.000 I'll tell you what I learned.

01:24:01.000 They say in a lengthy sit-down, the veteran radio host extracted an array of new details about Kamala Harris' life.

01:24:07.000 Ah. What I learned is that Kamala Harris doesn't actually care about equity or diversity, because Howard Stern is an unrepentant racist.

01:24:15.000 That's not fair. He actually is a repentant racist.

01:24:17.000 But he had, like, some of the most ridiculously racist bits of Back in his day that have gone viral that are shocking even to me.

01:24:25.000 There's one where he's in total blackface, dropping the N-word over and over and over again.

01:24:31.000 I'm like, wow!

01:24:32.000 I mean, he was a shock jock, right?

01:24:36.000 Colin didn't care about that.

01:24:38.000 This guy's flipped.

01:24:39.000 Howard Stern, what happened to the guy?

01:24:42.000 Did his balls drop off?

01:24:43.000 Like, how did he go from saying, F you, I will say whatever I want, and no one can stop me, to please, please, I'll say whatever you tell me?

01:24:50.000 I think the culture changed, right?

01:24:51.000 Like, he wants to stay relevant, and I think we can see this over and over again with the Me Too movement and other things, like the tolerance for sort of the brash...

01:25:01.000 Maybe borderline vulgar radio host is not the same that it once was.

01:25:06.000 So once his schtick lost a little bit of the shock and awe that maybe it had the beginning that rallied the fans, it became subject to the same kind of scrutiny that all people become subject to in a more progressive society.

01:25:18.000 I don't know. I didn't watch this interview.

01:25:20.000 Did Howard Stern do his usual schtick where he invites Kamala's dad on and asks them to kiss or something?

01:25:26.000 Probably not, right? I think it's the one time he didn't fire hot dogs at a woman's breasts.

01:25:31.000 I mean, isn't this the guy that would do things like that?

01:25:34.000 Now, look, fine. Look, far be it from me to criticize a guy's past and all that stuff.

01:25:39.000 He's truly changed.

01:25:41.000 But it's very interesting how he...

01:25:43.000 Just lost his nerve.

01:25:45.000 You don't got to be racist and degrading to women to have a pair.

01:25:51.000 You know what I mean? You can actually say things like, look, you are worthy of criticism of Kamala Harris.

01:25:56.000 I got no problem criticizing Donald Trump.

01:25:57.000 I heard Trump supporters yell at me all the time.

01:25:59.000 It's fine. You know, this is the realm of politics.

01:26:03.000 Howard Stern not only abandoned his edge, but he went completely the other direction.

01:26:09.000 What's the opposite of a shock jock?

01:26:14.000 Yeah, he's just filibustering the radio over there.

01:26:17.000 I mean, I really do think that this is a level of like, you know, the other one could be, he got famous and then therefore started interviewing, when he was interviewing famous people, like, these are people that are actually now in his social circle.

01:26:26.000 So he doesn't necessarily want to be asking them all these questions that will make them upset or treating them in sort of these scandalous ways.

01:26:32.000 Have you guys seen the—because they mention in this, she enjoyed Maya Rudolph's impression of her.

01:26:37.000 Did you see the SNL clip where they made fun of the debate?

01:26:39.000 Yo, they mocked Kamala Harris as being a drunk.

01:26:43.000 They had her, like, drinking wine.

01:26:45.000 I'm like, I should have chosen Josh.

01:26:46.000 And he's like, Shapiro? And she's like, no. And she pours more wine and keeps drinking.

01:26:49.000 Is any of that true? Like, is those clips I've seen where she's supposedly slurring her words?

01:26:54.000 Is she really—what's the— I don't know.

01:26:56.000 I don't think her campaign has released a statement about it.

01:26:58.000 But this is the interesting thing about— The media is what's happening in the media.

01:27:03.000 I mean, CBS did not give her an easy softball interview.

01:27:07.000 They pressed her several times.

01:27:08.000 They said Bill Whitaker says the border crisis.

01:27:11.000 Do you regret undoing Trump's policies?

01:27:13.000 And she's like, well, I'm just trying to work on solutions.

01:27:15.000 He goes, yeah, but the illegal immigration is quadrupled.

01:27:18.000 She's like, hey, we cut it in half.

01:27:20.000 So that's still double.

01:27:21.000 They pressed her on this. SNL, I don't know if Kamala Harris is actually a drunk.

01:27:26.000 I think it's a strong possibility because there are these videos.

01:27:28.000 Sure, maybe. Not confirmed.

01:27:30.000 So it's pretty surprising that SNL was like, and the angle we're going with Harris is that she's a drunk.

01:27:36.000 That's pretty impressive for SNL. And they mocked Tim Walz for saying he was friends with school shooters.

01:27:42.000 The thing is, Maya Rudolph's performance or her parody of Kamala Harris when they did it in 2020 was really successful.

01:27:50.000 People loved the caricature of Kamala.

01:27:52.000 I think maybe it's testament to Maya Rudolph.

01:27:54.000 You know, she's got good comedic timing or whatever.

01:27:56.000 But she made Kamala Harris likable to the American public in a way that Kamala Harris is actually not.

01:28:03.000 So even if on the inside Kamala Harris is really mad about the jab about wine drinking or whatever else, there's one line that I saw where she's like...

01:28:11.000 My campaign is like Sabrina Carpenter's song Espresso.

01:28:15.000 Like, you like the vibes, but it doesn't mean anything.

01:28:18.000 You know, like, even if these were making her mad, Mai Rudolph as a sort of celebrity and as someone who is actually entertaining the public is not someone she can attack.

01:28:28.000 Because, again, she is the actual likable version of Kamala.

01:28:32.000 Also, I think it's kind of an endorsement in a certain sense because everybody can relate to being drunk, right?

01:28:38.000 It's sort of like playful criticism.

01:28:41.000 There's no mocking of her for whatever, not having a single clear position on anything, right?

01:28:48.000 Like, I don't know, I'm a grumpy old man.

01:28:50.000 I'm a Dan Ack or a John Belushi, you know, 1970s, Saturday Night Live kind of guy.

01:28:56.000 I just don't think they're...

01:28:58.000 great anymore. I think that's a widely shared opinion. It's been fascinating to

01:29:04.000 see these political campaigns, both the Kamala Harris and Donald Trump campaign,

01:29:08.000 engage more with social media platforms and I guess people on social media and

01:29:13.000 then it's very telling to see which presidential campaigns pick which

01:29:18.000 social media people to have them do their interviews.

01:29:21.000 So Kamala Harris is out here picking the Call Her Daddy, Alex Cooper person.

01:29:27.000 They're picking Howard Stern.

01:29:29.000 Donald Trump's team's picking people like Aiden Ross.

01:29:32.000 Obviously, Tim Pool had the Trump interview.

01:29:34.000 It's just an interesting contrast in who these campaigns have interviewed them from the social media realm, things that obviously didn't exist 20 years ago and wasn't as potent a decade ago.

01:29:45.000 I don't know.

01:30:14.000 But after a four-year election, interest in politics drops off into oblivion because people are like, please, no more.

01:30:21.000 I am done.

01:30:23.000 It depends on who wins.

01:30:24.000 I think the media is salivating for a second Trump turn, although they will not say it.

01:30:29.000 All the liberal news outlets had their best four years under Donald Trump.

01:30:34.000 I don't know if that's because of his economy.

01:30:36.000 I don't know if that's because of the content he provided.

01:30:38.000 But there is a mathematical limit.

01:30:40.000 Mm-hmm. Watching this hurricane stuff, and they're like, it looks like Milton's approaching the mathematical limit of what a hurricane can be in these waters.

01:30:48.000 It's like, wow. But there's a mathematical limit to how much you can extract in media.

01:30:52.000 I think you're right.

01:30:53.000 The media wants Trump to win because they know it's going to be just the best ratings they've ever got.

01:31:00.000 But at a certain point, the ratings of hysteria result in people's brains exploding.

01:31:04.000 You know, figuratively.

01:31:06.000 Like, people are going to be ripping each other to shreds.

01:31:09.000 I don't know that's a good thing.

01:31:11.000 MSNBC's audience's heads have remained exploded since, and I don't know, you can't blow it up more than once, so after all that Rachel Maddow garbage that she's fed you over the years, I don't know if you could get any more brainwashed.

01:31:22.000 Isn't that kind of wild, though?

01:31:23.000 If you listen to Howard Stern and Rachel Maddow, you have no idea what's happening in the world.

01:31:28.000 And if you listen to Fox News, you're going to get a biased take on it, but you'll know what's happening in the world.

01:31:33.000 Like, Fox News' approach is going to say, well, Donald Trump came out and he said X, Y, and Z, and we like it.

01:31:38.000 MSNBC is going to come out and say, Donald Trump actually said that he was Hitler, and it's a bad thing, and you're like, well, he didn't say that.

01:31:45.000 That's ridiculous. The corporate press lies about who Trump is and what he wants, and then you see in right-wing media—I don't even like saying right-wing, because what does that even mean, but opposition media, whatever— They'll be honest about Trump and then explain why they either like or don't like it.

01:32:00.000 But you don't get that with the corporate press.

01:32:02.000 So these people live in some fictional, delusional state where they have no idea what's actually happening.

01:32:06.000 You'll see many oppositional interviews in the right-wing media ecosystem to Trump, and something that's a lot less common is the reverse of that, with these left-wing outlets being consistently difficult in their interviewing styles with Kamala Harris.

01:32:21.000 I'm glad Whitaker, that's why I commended him earlier, deciding to take a new path, because a lot of journalists had a lot of opportunities at Kamala Harris, The debate interviewers had a lot of opportunity to get their name out there.

01:32:34.000 I don't actually know that there have been that many opportunities to push Kamala Harris because her campaign has been so guarded with her.

01:32:41.000 Even her first big interview, she had to have Tim Walz with her as some sort of chaperone or emotional support dog.

01:32:49.000 To hold her hand. It was very weird.

01:32:52.000 I wonder if...

01:32:55.000 There are two paths that my brain goes down.

01:32:58.000 One is they are selectively picking who gets to have the hardball questions, right?

01:33:03.000 They're not going to go on Fox News and do—I mean, I think Tim Walz just did a Fox and Friends or whatever the Fox morning show is, but Kamala Harris is not going to go on Fox News and face hard questions.

01:33:15.000 It's still a sort of sympathetic outlet that's been allowed to push her on things, and in part that's because they aren't really going to pull too many clips that make her look bad.

01:33:25.000 The other part is I think that the American public are frustrated and more and more every year corporate media realizes that their biggest threat is independent media, which is gaining confidence from voters.

01:33:38.000 And so maybe to your point, they can't continue on and on with the shtick of like everything is fine and everything Kamala or whoever has the Democratic endorsement says is great and everything Trump says is awful without looking foolish and just continuing to hemorrhage viewers.

01:33:55.000 To be fair, if I were the Tim Walz campaign or I guess Kamala Harris campaign, I'd also say Tim Walz should no longer go on Fox News because that Shannon Bream interview was atrocious.

01:34:06.000 Shannon Bream railed him on his abortion stance about Roe v.

01:34:11.000 Wade in particular and how in Minnesota he passed laws where there would be no limits to abortion.

01:34:15.000 Right. And he said otherwise.

01:34:17.000 But again, nobody fact checks.

01:34:20.000 Nobody in the left wing cares about fact checking Kamala Harris or Tim Walsh.

01:34:23.000 But every little thing coming out of Donald Trump or especially J.D. Vance's mouth recently instantly gets fact checked.

01:34:30.000 Right. I mean, that's because he's smooth and did well.

01:34:32.000 I mean, they wanted him to be sort of an awkward, women-hating weirdo.

01:34:38.000 And in fact, he's a very well-spoken person.

01:34:40.000 I mean, he was in PR for the military.

01:34:43.000 It's not his first time dealing with hostile interviewers as a politician or before that.

01:34:49.000 I think that, you know, I don't envy the Harris-Walls campaign staffers who are in charge of booking interviews

01:34:57.000 because they have two candidates who proved to not be particularly charismatic.

01:35:02.000 I know people argue Walls has...

01:35:03.000 I don't know how you feel about Tim Walls, but that he has some sort of...

01:35:08.000 Salt of the earth charm.

01:35:09.000 I don't really see it. Like he appeals to old white people.

01:35:12.000 That was the idea behind him.

01:35:13.000 That's sort of what they say. Like he's a football coach, former football coach.

01:35:16.000 Kind of. Or like he's like a man of the people.

01:35:19.000 I never really felt this way, but I know that I listened to an interview with voters from Minnesota that were like, he's like a great debater and all this stuff.

01:35:26.000 And then he did really better.

01:35:27.000 Haven't you seen the camo hat?

01:35:29.000 I mean, he's obviously such a man.

01:35:30.000 I mean, obviously if you draw a camo hat, you're obviously one of those people.

01:35:32.000 The camo hat reminds me of the Carhartt hat.

01:35:34.000 I don't know if you guys ever saw this meme, but Carhartt, the brand, the beanies got really popular.

01:35:38.000 Okay. And there was like a meme that was like, you know, the thing about Carhartt is like, you don't know if a hipster is wearing them.

01:35:43.000 You don't know if like a like leather handed blue collar man or like, you don't know who's wearing it.

01:35:48.000 It really does appeal to everyone. Do you have an opinion on Tim Walls?

01:35:51.000 Is he endorsing Kamala Harris?

01:35:53.000 Or is he making Kamala Harris better for you?

01:35:56.000 Well, he seems to me like they chose him because they didn't want somebody who would overshadow Kamala.

01:36:02.000 And it seems like this kind of weird kind of almost like gender politics, like with choosing him.

01:36:09.000 He seems when I look at him visually, he looks a little goofy to me and like a little sort of like a milk toast.

01:36:15.000 Candidate, if that's the right phrase, but I really don't know that much about him.

01:36:19.000 He seems to me, okay, we need a guy in there, we need something for the white men, but we gotta have somebody who's not going to compete with her in terms of star power.

01:36:37.000 She's very much...

01:36:42.000 But that's a very loose use of that word.

01:36:45.000 Right. Yeah. Fair enough.

01:36:46.000 Fair enough. She's a D minus and he's an F. Right.

01:36:50.000 She's sort of like the candle to his burned out light bulb, but, you know, she still gets to be brighter than he is.

01:36:55.000 That's why I'm saying I can't imagine them winning.

01:36:58.000 Not that Kamala can't win.

01:36:59.000 That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I genuinely can't imagine a scenario where someone so lacking actually wins the presidency with Donald Trump with all of the historical iconography surrounding him, shaking hands with RFK Jr.

01:37:11.000 with explosions behind him.

01:37:12.000 Like, literally, that happened.

01:37:13.000 And then you've got on the ground with his hands over his face with the blood coming down and then raising his fists in the air.

01:37:19.000 So many moments of this past year just scream historical record that if this man were to lose, Life would just—it doesn't seem so strange that all of these major historical moments would lead to nothing.

01:37:33.000 But maybe it does. I don't know.

01:37:35.000 For now, we're going to go to Super Chat.

01:37:37.000 So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?

01:37:40.000 Subscribe to this channel if you haven't already.

01:37:42.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

01:37:44.000 And I do mean that. I'm not just trying to be funny.

01:37:46.000 Tell your friends if you like the show, because it really does help.

01:37:48.000 And I will...

01:37:50.000 There's a lot of people who are asking. I do check Twitter and tweet while I'm doing the show, and I am...

01:37:55.000 A lot of people don't know this. I have two monitors.

01:37:57.000 I'm monitoring the show, viewership, comments, stream, bitrate, etc.

01:38:03.000 Monitoring X. We are streaming to X, so I'm looking at all these things.

01:38:06.000 Just for people who are wondering, because I tweeted...

01:38:10.000 And they were like, why is Tim tweeting right now?

01:38:11.000 Isn't he doing the show? And I'm like, great, this is all part of it.

01:38:13.000 I look at Twitter for breaking news, and I will post tweets.

01:38:17.000 I will say one more thing.

01:38:19.000 I have two more things, but one about this.

01:38:22.000 And smash the like button, share that, all that jazz.

01:38:26.000 And we are on the front page of YouTube.

01:38:29.000 Yeah, front page. What? Yeah, front page.

01:38:31.000 So it is what it is.

01:38:34.000 I don't know. Over the past, we hit around 51,000 or so concurrence, slightly above average.

01:38:42.000 And so when I'm doing the show, I'm checking and I use a private mode default not signed in account.

01:38:49.000 And Timcast IRL was featured on the front page of YouTube.

01:38:54.000 And so I used a separate browser.

01:38:55.000 It's the Brave browser. Not signed in.

01:38:57.000 Private. So it's basically, you know, it's got no data towards it.

01:39:01.000 And sure enough, once again, it showed Tim Castile on the front page.

01:39:04.000 I think they've changed the way they're recommending things.

01:39:07.000 I think they may have...

01:39:09.000 YouTube may have reverted back to a genuine interest-based—I wonder if Donald Trump is—all these big companies expect Trump to win, and they know that if Trump gets in and then they start going through what these companies have been doing in terms of bias, they are going to be obliterated.

01:39:28.000 When Elon Musk bought X, they panicked.

01:39:30.000 We saw this weird thing happen where a bunch of conservative personalities and right-leaning personalities started gaining massive follower counts while the left started losing massive follower counts.

01:39:38.000 We didn't understand what was going on.

01:39:41.000 The theory was that X, at the time Twitter, was basically shutting down these weighted

01:39:45.000 systems that were benefiting the left or liberals or corporate press, wherever it may be, because

01:39:51.000 they didn't want Elon to discover it.

01:39:53.000 And this caused a visible shift.

01:39:55.000 I'm wondering if right now the reason why our subscribers are way up, our views are

01:39:59.000 way up, or our concurrent viewership is way up is because YouTube's turned off whatever

01:40:04.000 they had turned on.

01:40:05.000 And so now it's basically if you have the highest live viewership right now, you're going to be featured, which is just the default of if the show is good and people like it, you appear in the trending and recommended sections of the website.

01:40:18.000 Don't know for sure. All I can say is we were featured at the top of live podcasts and all on YouTube, and I checked two different browsers.

01:40:26.000 Not everyone's getting the same results.

01:40:28.000 Don't know. All I know is based.

01:40:29.000 Thanks, YouTube. I do appreciate it.

01:40:31.000 And cool stuff, huh?

01:40:33.000 I don't want to sound conspiratorial, but I'm fairly sure YouTube employees check all of their homepage, like top of the live viewership videos that they post.

01:40:43.000 And I suspect they had to have had a conversation been had around like, okay, are we going to put Tim Pool up there or not?

01:40:49.000 Because you are such a big account.

01:40:51.000 There is also a relatively new YouTube CEO. I don't know if there's some changes going on behind the scene.

01:40:57.000 Really? Yeah. Neil Mohan, something, Susan Wojcicki.

01:41:03.000 She passed. Yeah. You know what?

01:41:05.000 We had Dale Sonja a couple days ago, and I said, what?

01:41:09.000 They have a meeting about featuring live shows, and some guy was like, what about Tim Pool?

01:41:12.000 And they were like, yeah, but he's a fascist.

01:41:14.000 Then someone went, no, he's not.

01:41:16.000 He's kind of moderate and milquetoast.

01:41:18.000 And they were like, oh. And it just finally took someone speaking up.

01:41:21.000 But maybe you're right, the new CEO. He may be saying, guys, we need a merit-based recommendation system or we're going to lose out to Netflix, Disney.

01:41:28.000 All of these different streaming platforms are stealing our viewership.

01:41:31.000 Or the show is that darn good.

01:41:34.000 It just can't fight it. No, I think the show has been that darn good.

01:41:37.000 And, you know, we've just struggled through.

01:41:40.000 Shout out Neil Mohan.

01:41:41.000 But if you guys are listening, give us a good review also on whatever podcast platform, audio side you're listening to.

01:41:46.000 I hate to neglect the people who listen because we have a million subscribers, a million followers for the audio podcast, and we never really talk to you guys.

01:41:54.000 So if you are listening and you're one of our million people who listen on Apple or Spotify, leave us a good rating.

01:42:01.000 Give us five stars. Whatever you got to do, we're going to read your super chats.

01:42:05.000 T-Bomb says, we've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty.

01:42:08.000 Oh, thank God. I've been worried about that.

01:42:10.000 How did I get in touch with you?

01:42:12.000 Suncoast Samurai says, hi, Tim and crew.

01:42:14.000 I'm currently in Sarasota staring down a vicious hurricane, and I'm so happy to know that Ukraine gets another billion.

01:42:19.000 God help us. Well, when the storm surge comes and smashes you into a building and drowns you, You'll be all right because you'll know in your heart as you struggle to breathe that in Ukraine they have electricity.

01:42:34.000 And so that's what really matters.

01:42:36.000 Maybe he'll get a $750 check.

01:42:38.000 Don't worry. Lebanon comes before you as well.

01:42:42.000 So don't forget that. But in all seriousness, our thoughts and prayers go out to everybody affected by the hurricane.

01:42:48.000 The Clayway says, Tim, have you ever hated a guest?

01:42:50.000 No, there's very few people I actually hate.

01:42:53.000 I don't, is there somebody that I hate?

01:42:56.000 I don't think so.

01:42:56.000 I don't know that I hate anybody.

01:42:57.000 Am I missing, am I forgetting something?

01:43:00.000 Would you invite somebody in that you hated?

01:43:03.000 But I don't know that I hate anybody.

01:43:05.000 Right, right, right.

01:43:06.000 Those would be the best people to have on.

01:43:08.000 Yeah.

01:43:08.000 Because conflict sells.

01:43:09.000 I will, I will, like, yeah, I've had guests that I thought were stupid.

01:43:15.000 We've had a couple of guests on who suffer from what I call Israel derangement syndrome.

01:43:21.000 And I will clarify this for you because I am not saying Israel derangement syndrome means that you hate Israel.

01:43:26.000 I am not saying that you have Israel derangement syndrome if you criticize Israel.

01:43:29.000 those were always allowed. It's the people who claim that everything in the world is the result

01:43:34.000 of Israel. For instance, someone called in asking about the fentanyl crisis in West Virginia,

01:43:41.000 and a guest we had on said almost within 30 seconds, it's Israel, they're running,

01:43:46.000 and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're talking about fentanyl in West Virginia,

01:43:50.000 which is prescribed by doctors.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, but the thing about Israel is—and I'm like, okay, that's Israel derangement syndrome, okay?

01:43:56.000 If you come at me and you say, I have problems with the journalist's deaths in Gaza from the Israeli conflict, I say, oh, wow, yeah.

01:44:03.000 If you say there's children who have died, I'll be like, that's terrible.

01:44:04.000 That's a really bad thing. You're allowed to criticize these things.

01:44:07.000 If you say, I think their government is bad, Netanyahu sucks, we shouldn't be funding them, I'll say, okay, well, you know, I hear you.

01:44:11.000 But when you make deranged statements like— The fentanyl crisis in West Virginia is caused by Israel.

01:44:16.000 I'm sorry, you are nuts, okay?

01:44:19.000 There's legitimate criticisms there.

01:44:21.000 There's legitimate arguments, I think, for and against and whatever, but that's the derangement syndrome.

01:44:26.000 So, not that I hate the individuals, but I do think that they're annoyingly deranged.

01:44:33.000 There you go. All right, we'll grab some more here.

01:44:37.000 Joey Gressok says, Hey Tim and gang, huge fan.

01:44:40.000 Have been a long time listener welcoming a baby number four into this world today.

01:44:43.000 Please keep up the good fight.

01:44:44.000 I have too much riding on the future to let it fall.

01:44:47.000 Fight, fight, fight. Indeed.

01:44:49.000 And as you guys know, one like equals two.

01:44:51.000 Fight, fight, fight. Because another guy tried to kill Trump.

01:44:54.000 Happened twice. He didn't say fight, fight, fight twice, but we're going to give him two anyway.

01:44:58.000 Great job on being well above the replacement rate.

01:45:00.000 That's 2.3. You're almost double.

01:45:02.000 I mean, I think you have to have another kid to technically be double.

01:45:05.000 This is not true. I need to fact check on this.

01:45:07.000 Snapple Fact says...

01:45:08.000 Snapple Facts.

01:45:09.000 Tim, Mega Millions will now be $5 a ticket.

01:45:12.000 Tell me again the economy is good.

01:45:14.000 They just upped the poor man tax by two.

01:45:16.000 Two times. Fight, fight, fight.

01:45:18.000 Is that... They raised the Mega Million tax.

01:45:20.000 Let me double check to see if it's fair. The Mega Million tax.

01:45:21.000 Or the Mega Million price. Is the Mega Millions really $5 now?

01:45:25.000 No. What was it before?

01:45:26.000 It was $2? No.

01:45:29.000 Powerball. Isn't Powerball a dollar?

01:45:30.000 Or is it $2? Yeah, it's $5 now as of yesterday.

01:45:35.000 What's the payout?

01:45:36.000 Is it like variable? I don't do it.

01:45:38.000 The payout will go up.

01:45:41.000 Yeah, so bigger payouts but more expensive tickets?

01:45:44.000 Is this like when they say, but you have more purchasing power right now.

01:45:48.000 Even though everything's more expensive, you're also making more money.

01:45:51.000 This is like economic jargon that doesn't actually result in anything good.

01:45:54.000 There is a chart that was released showing inflation rates for consumer, for standard

01:46:01.000 goods, groceries. Where we are in the DC metro area, I mean, we're about an hour and a half

01:46:06.000 outside of DC, but it's still considered relatively the DC metro. 18.8% increase in

01:46:12.000 real costs adjusted for inflation. Wages are not improving against inflation.

01:46:18.000 Wages adjusted for inflation have declined.

01:46:21.000 People's purchasing power has declined.

01:46:23.000 I am sick of hearing the economy is good when people can't afford to buy groceries.

01:46:27.000 Anyway, Kinsei Sensei says, Rip to my valiant rooster Walter the Brave, who died today defending his flock from a coyote.

01:46:35.000 Not one hen was lost.

01:46:37.000 He was a noble defender.

01:46:38.000 He will be missed dearly.

01:46:39.000 I will avenge him. Avenge him!

01:46:42.000 Word. You know...

01:46:44.000 It needs to be said every so often that there's a reason why medieval countries praised the chicken and the rooster.

01:46:53.000 And it's actually quite simple because people of knowledge understand the symbol of what chickens and roosters represent.

01:47:00.000 You see, the hens lay eggs every single day.

01:47:03.000 They are abundant with life.

01:47:04.000 And it was actually surprising when chickens were introduced to Europe because you had a bird that could lay an egg every day.

01:47:12.000 They were like, this is crazy.

01:47:13.000 As long as we keep feeding them, they keep laying eggs and eggs are good.

01:47:15.000 We like eating them. Normally you'd find some, but it takes a long time for a bird to make and they're small.

01:47:19.000 Chicken eggs were big. The roosters sacrificed themselves for their hens.

01:47:24.000 So, humans recognize the honor in that noble sacrifice.

01:47:28.000 And it's funny that we use the word chicken to imply cowardice, which is absurd to me because chickens represent roosters and hens.

01:47:36.000 They're all chickens. And a rooster will run full speed at a coyote knowing it will die to protect his women.

01:47:44.000 That's admirable.

01:47:45.000 Roosters have more integrity and honor than many men.

01:47:49.000 So, you know, watch who you call chicken because you could be complimenting, right?

01:47:54.000 Alex says Pizza Hut helped create the best anime Code Geass.

01:47:57.000 They did. Well, I don't know.

01:48:00.000 But I want to give a shout out to Breezewood PA again, because they have a standalone Pizza Hut restaurant.

01:48:05.000 Like an OG classic one where you can sit down and they have a buffet and all that stuff.

01:48:09.000 That's what it's all about. You bring your kids there and you get to book it.

01:48:12.000 I don't know if they do book it or whatever, but it's cool.

01:48:15.000 Tack Genesis says, a Glock is a commit-a-crime-and-throw-away gun.

01:48:19.000 A real gun owner isn't going to say that in any serious manner.

01:48:22.000 I'm not a big gun guy, but I kind of agree.

01:48:25.000 If someone asked me what kind of gun I had, the first thing I'd say is Barrett M82. And then when they laugh and say, okay, like, seriously, well, I do have one.

01:48:36.000 But in terms of, like, my personal weapon, 1911 or something, Glock.

01:48:43.000 Sure. It's a weird way to, I'm not a gun guy, but that's a weird way to answer the question, what kind of gun do you have, right?

01:48:48.000 Because it's a brand, as I understand, the Glock.

01:48:50.000 A Glock is a Glock. I don't know.

01:48:52.000 I have one. They're good, I guess.

01:48:56.000 But like, if someone was asking me, and I'm not a gun guy, you know, so all the big gun enthusiasts are like, Tim doesn't know what he's talking about half the time.

01:49:03.000 You are correct. However, the weapons that I have, the guns that I have that I'm proud of is not my Glock.

01:49:10.000 I don't know. It's my Barrett M82. She's saying that's the only one she owns.

01:49:14.000 So she can't be like, I have a cooler gun or whatever.

01:49:19.000 I feel like people usually add the measurement in the gun.

01:49:22.000 Like a Glock 17 or something?

01:49:23.000 Yeah, whatever. I think it's a way of her saying, and people have fact-checked her on this.

01:49:29.000 She's been mentioning that she's a gun owner since at least 2015.

01:49:32.000 I think it's her way of being like, I have a weapon for self-defense and that's it.

01:49:37.000 She's not a gun enthusiast, but she is talking about personal protection.

01:49:40.000 She was a cop. I don't think it's the most outrageous thing.

01:49:43.000 She was like, I was a criminal prosecutor.

01:49:47.000 Like, yes, I have a gun for protection.

01:49:50.000 I think she's implying that she could potentially be a target.

01:49:52.000 I don't know how you feel about this as someone who's involved in federal cases.

01:49:59.000 When was the last time she fired her gun?

01:50:01.000 That's what I'm really... She said she's been to the range.

01:50:03.000 Really? Yeah. And she's got Secret Service protection.

01:50:07.000 I think she's just trying to win gun owner votes in a really weak way because I don't think anybody's buying it.

01:50:15.000 I think she's going to be terrible if you're a Second Amendment person.

01:50:19.000 I think she's, you know, more...

01:50:21.000 I mean, I think one of the choices here you've got is between big government and the administrative state and sort of an anti-administrative state position in Trump.

01:50:31.000 You know, if you're for big government, you're going to vote for Kamala.

01:50:35.000 And if you're not for big government, you're going to vote for Trump or just give up.

01:50:40.000 And for the people who like small government, Trump's not even...

01:50:44.000 It's, you know, Dave Smith, if he was the Libertarian candidate.

01:50:48.000 But Dave Smith not running sure helped Trump because the Libertarian Party nominates Chase, right?

01:50:55.000 And now the Libertarians don't even want to vote Libertarian.

01:50:58.000 So, all right.

01:51:00.000 Kieran the Meat Man says, Pee Wee Herman died in 2023, so he is voting Kamala Harris.

01:51:05.000 Aha! He's a funny guy.

01:51:09.000 Funny guy. Salty Mc...

01:51:12.000 I'm just saying Salty.

01:51:15.000 Her positions are vague until she figures out what will hurt her the least.

01:51:20.000 She provides no detail until pressed.

01:51:23.000 She lies about owning a gun.

01:51:24.000 Ask her what kind she has, and she has the most popular brand.

01:51:27.000 Ask her which kind of Glock. I think she has a Glock, but I don't think she knows what it is.

01:51:31.000 I think she went to a gun store, and she was like, I'll take a gun.

01:51:35.000 And they're like, which one? And she's like, I don't know, that one.

01:51:37.000 And they're like, man, that's a Glock 17.

01:51:38.000 She's like, sure. That's it.

01:51:40.000 I'm going to show how little I know about police departments, but what is the standard?

01:51:43.000 Don't they have a standard issue firearm?

01:51:46.000 Pistol? I think it varies.

01:51:48.000 By department? Yeah, but I don't know.

01:51:51.000 I think in the city they do Glocks.

01:51:52.000 She was a prosecutor, not a cop.

01:51:55.000 Like, there's a big difference.

01:51:56.000 Law enforcement. You know, that's another thing that bothers me about her.

01:52:02.000 She's sort of that mass incarceration crowd.

01:52:05.000 And Biden very much in the 90s was, you know, a mass incarceration guy.

01:52:10.000 And, you know, she's part of the machine that has made the United States a country that jails more people per capita than any other country in the world.

01:52:20.000 So how are progressives voting for her?

01:52:23.000 Because there's, what's this, scratch a liberal and watch a fascist bleed?

01:52:27.000 Because there's like this cult of a prosecutor on the left right now.

01:52:31.000 Because Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.

01:52:33.000 That's right. That's why.

01:52:35.000 Allegedly. I like that one, scratch a liberal and watch a fascist bleed.

01:52:38.000 I've never heard that. Leftists love saying that.

01:52:40.000 Really? Yeah, that's leftist's favorite saying.

01:52:43.000 Wow. To call all liberals fascists.

01:52:46.000 And I give respect to the leftists because the true leftists are not voting for her.

01:52:50.000 But a lot of quote-unquote leftists, like run-of-the-mill progressives, are voting for her.

01:52:58.000 All right. What do you say?

01:53:01.000 Programa Chao? Sem Fronteras?

01:53:04.000 Is that Portuguese?

01:53:06.000 I have bad news, Tim.

01:53:07.000 The PPD podcast got the episode removed because of copyright of the 60 Minutes interview.

01:53:11.000 Yeah, well, they should file an appeal because this is the epitome of fair use.

01:53:16.000 A woman running for president gives an interview and we criticized her for it.

01:53:20.000 Sorry. That's what fair use is for.

01:53:22.000 But it's true. The PPD podcast I checked did tweet that their episode got removed, and there's an image saying copyright takedown.

01:53:28.000 So I don't know much more about why or what happened, but that'll be resolved immediately.

01:53:33.000 Because that is, if it's actually the case, you can't do that.

01:53:36.000 That's fair use. Andy Bubandy says a lot of talk about Michigan and Wisconsin as Midwest swing states, but keep an eye on Minnesota as a red surprise.

01:53:46.000 Lots of people here were fed up with the waltz as governor.

01:53:49.000 First time voters are voting Trump because we can't afford food and gas.

01:53:53.000 Indeed. I just don't think there's a way to navigate around this economic argument.

01:53:58.000 There's no way to package the economy where young voters or voters who are paycheck to paycheck right now are like, more of this, more of this.

01:54:06.000 I mean, she hasn't differentiated herself.

01:54:09.000 Harris has not differentiated herself enough from Biden.

01:54:12.000 And young voters are, I mean, all kinds of, definitely young voters are looking at their paychecks and saying, why is this not enough to start my life on?

01:54:21.000 There's no way for her to spin this.

01:54:23.000 And, like, again, I'm not clear on her positions at all, but, like, didn't she come out for some kind of price controls?

01:54:30.000 Oh, yeah. Which are always disastrous, right?

01:54:32.000 Like, I mean, that's economics, like, 101, right?

01:54:35.000 And then she seemed to backpedal for it.

01:54:38.000 But, like, what's her solution for any of this, if it's even possible?

01:54:41.000 No. And do you want to gamble that she has a plan if she's not willing to spell it out?

01:54:46.000 Like, if you had a really good plan, wouldn't you be screaming it from the rooftops right now?

01:54:51.000 Yeah. She's not.

01:54:52.000 No, she seems to try to...

01:54:53.000 Well, then, if she does come out with the plan, it's like, why aren't you doing it right now?

01:54:56.000 You're the vice president.

01:54:58.000 You're the tiebreaker vote in the House, or in the Senate, rather.

01:55:02.000 Joe Biden's the president. Do it right now.

01:55:04.000 Mm-hmm. I think she can have every pop star in the world endorse her.

01:55:08.000 She can go on as many late night shows as she wants.

01:55:11.000 She's not going to be able to change the voters' minds on this issue.

01:55:15.000 The economy is king right now.

01:55:16.000 And it's true for a lot of elections, but especially after the last three and a half years.

01:55:22.000 Yeah. Lee Daniels says, I think Biden preempted Kamala on purpose, but for a positive reason.

01:55:28.000 It took some of the heat off her.

01:55:30.000 Not all the media was focused on fumbling through another speech.

01:55:33.000 Perhaps. Korowag says, Milton is going to make the wars all over the world worse.

01:55:39.000 The command and control center in Tampa Bay is the main path.

01:55:42.000 It will just make this worse all over, not just the U.S. since it's who's in charge of the Middle East.

01:55:48.000 Interesting. Gravity says, please watch Lord of War.

01:55:52.000 People learn whom the dude is like, allegedly.

01:55:55.000 I think I saw that movie.

01:55:56.000 It's the movie where it's got the really interesting opening where the bullet moves through all the stages of manufacturing or whatever.

01:56:02.000 Was that Lord of War? That was.

01:56:04.000 And then I think they said there's an error in that the full cartridge fires itself and not just the bullet.

01:56:10.000 So you actually see the cartridge launch through the air because they don't know what they were doing?

01:56:16.000 It's like on The Simpsons when—I can't remember who it was, but there's a famous Simpsons bit where there's a guy with a revolver and he's loading a magazine into the—yeah, you don't do that with revolvers.

01:56:27.000 But liberals don't know what guns are, so— It reminds me of the staged photo of...

01:56:33.000 It was like a bullet in a fence, but with the cartridge still attached to it.

01:56:39.000 I've seen that. You know what I'm talking about?

01:56:40.000 It was a very famous...

01:56:41.000 It's such an obviously staged photo.

01:56:46.000 Pinochet's helicopter tour says, Elad, it's not too late.

01:56:48.000 Join any conflict you want.

01:56:51.000 You're signing up for more?

01:56:53.000 Conflict. I am trying to encourage peace.

01:56:57.000 So I don't want conflict.

01:56:59.000 He's the strength, right? So why aren't you going to go be the strength?

01:57:00.000 He's a journalist. He doesn't get involved on either side.

01:57:02.000 Oh, I forgot. AtOneGamer says, when can we expect a lot to enlist in the military?

01:57:06.000 He has the itchiest trigger finger but will never fight for his beliefs.

01:57:10.000 I think the United States would be so much better off with a mandatory draft like you couldn't imagine.

01:57:16.000 You could mandate your own personal draft and sign up.

01:57:18.000 Sure. And I think there's a civic duty that it should be incumbent on all Americans to participate in what makes our country the greatest country ever.

01:57:27.000 It would help with our assimilation rate.

01:57:29.000 It would help breed patriotism amongst our youngest.

01:57:32.000 Would you ever consider signing up for the military?

01:57:34.000 No, I haven't.

01:57:36.000 But if my country called on me to serve, I would.

01:57:41.000 So you would do it if mandated, but you don't feel any need to volunteer despite believing that peace through strength is important?

01:57:49.000 It's a volunteer army and it's a civilian-led army.

01:57:53.000 Therefore, those are the people who can have opinions on it.

01:57:56.000 Not only people in the military should have opinions on geopolitics.

01:58:00.000 Moreover, if you talk to people in the military, they are much more hawkish than I am, overwhelmingly.

01:58:06.000 So it's... Rich coming from people in general.

01:58:09.000 Like, you want to know who the most hawkish people are?

01:58:11.000 It's mostly the people in the military.

01:58:13.000 But if called to serve, I would.

01:58:15.000 And I think we should have a mandatory draft in our country.

01:58:18.000 Part of something that makes Israel so great is that they have a mandatory draft for both men and women.

01:58:24.000 In South Korea, right? That doesn't mean you...

01:58:25.000 I believe Taiwan...

01:58:26.000 Mandatory basic training. Mandatory basic training.

01:58:29.000 But that's also... Most of the people in the military aren't combat troops.

01:58:34.000 I just think there should be a component of basic training in high school.

01:58:38.000 I think we should have a mandatory draft.

01:58:41.000 Three years for men, two years for women.

01:58:44.000 I think it would be great delaying college a little bit after high school to decide what you want to do better.

01:58:50.000 Delay college, abolish it. What does the parent in the room think of this?

01:58:53.000 I'm against a draft.

01:58:54.000 I mean, I think it just leads to, again, it's the standing army problem.

01:58:59.000 I mean, I think we'd have more of a National Guard to go help in national disaster areas.

01:59:04.000 The draft doesn't work. Getting people who don't want to fight, who are too scared to fight, who are forced to fight causes you problems.

01:59:10.000 So cultural incentives work better.

01:59:12.000 The reason we got off the draft was not because we were like, oh, no, there's protests.

01:59:15.000 It was, hey, these guys are really ineffective.

01:59:17.000 Is there another way we can recruit?

01:59:19.000 And they're like, yeah, economics. Okay, we'll do that.

01:59:21.000 I mean, Vietnam was a disaster.

01:59:22.000 Most of the army isn't fighting most of the time either.

01:59:26.000 So when I say draft, 99%, almost 100% of the people will not be seeing any conflict if we had a mandatory draft in our country.

01:59:34.000 But that wasn't true in Vietnam.

01:59:36.000 In Vietnam, a quarter of draftees were actually going to combat or something like that.

01:59:39.000 It might have been 17%. Sure.

01:59:41.000 I think that high school should have basic training.

01:59:44.000 And to some degree, there should be a...

01:59:48.000 I think high schools should have health requirements, meaning you will not get your diploma unless you can pass a physical test, which is swinging from the monkey bars or whatever.

01:59:58.000 It's crawling through the mud.

02:00:00.000 There should be a physical component to high school graduation.

02:00:04.000 Yeah, sure. Just to push back on the question, or whatever the Super Chat was saying, too.

02:00:08.000 What is it? Such the case that only people who have served in the military should have any say in our government?

02:00:14.000 Yes! I'm for that.

02:00:16.000 I think, too. We're going to wrap things up.

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02:00:41.000 No, man. This was a lot of fun.

02:00:44.000 Right on. We can find you on X, right?

02:00:46.000 Yeah, you can find me on X. Toracle and PLLC. There you go.

02:00:50.000 Tricky. Thanks. He's very humble over there.

02:00:53.000 He doesn't want to tell people where to find him.

02:00:56.000 I'm just having fun.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 09, 2024

Kamala BOMBS 60 Minutes Interview, Trump ROASTS Her w-Tor Ekeland | Timcast IRL

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