Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Karmelo Anthony APPEALS, GiveSendGo DELETES Fundraiser | Timcast IRL

00:02:56.000 Carmelo Anthony is officially appealing his conviction, his sentencing, and we are seeing an insane reaction from, I don't know how else to describe it other than, like, I don't want to make it seem like literally every black person is saying they want to go kill white people or anything like that, because certainly that's not the case. 0.94

00:03:14.000 But there is a massive amount of social media coming from people in the black community saying outright they want to commit violence against white people.

00:03:23.000 In fact, in one video, a guy on a bike, a black man, literally punches a random white guy. 0.91

00:03:28.000 Because he thought he saw him at the courthouse. 0.99

00:03:31.000 In another video, a guy says to go out and kill.

00:03:34.000 I mean, this is how insane things have gotten.

00:03:37.000 Carmelo Anthony is appealing, tensions are rising, and Give, Send, Go has pulled down his fundraiser and is expected, at least according to a few reports, to refund the money to those who made donations.

00:03:49.000 I don't know how much that would actually be because I do believe they disperse, like these fundraising platforms will disperse periodically.

00:03:57.000 Let's just say racial tensions are hot right now, and not even here across the pond.

00:04:02.000 Belfast, Ireland is seeing still ongoing riots.

00:04:05.000 Apparently, it's not as bad, but they were telling people to get out of the city by the afternoon because they expect there to be more riots.

00:04:13.000 For those of you that didn't see the story, a Sudanese guy horrifically and brutally mutilated a man.

00:04:21.000 I can't even begin to describe the things that he did, but he had a kitchen knife and he was trying to remove the man's head, as well as his eyes, his face.

00:04:29.000 The whole thing is absolutely horrific.

00:04:31.000 And for this, we saw homes being burned down, we saw vehicles getting burned down.

00:04:35.000 It's absolutely intense.

00:04:37.000 And then, of course, we'll pick back up in the California Democrat election conversation about how they're cheating.

00:04:43.000 New information, of course, emerging.

00:04:45.000 More, there's another report of a California individual being caught with engaging in voter fraud.

00:04:53.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:04:54.000 And then the news that everybody can't wait to hear about.

00:04:57.000 I guess we're still at war with Iran, or the war is getting worse.

00:05:01.000 The U.S. has begun striking Iran again, taking out water reservoirs.

00:05:06.000 And apparently, Trump's even calling.

00:05:08.000 Fox News reporter Trey Yinks from the Situation Room to explain what's going on.

00:05:11.000 This is absolutely crazy.

00:05:13.000 So we'll talk about that and a whole lot more.

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00:06:41.000 That being said, joining us, we've got a couple of guests coming to hang out.

00:06:44.000 First up, we've got the great Mike Benz.

00:06:47.000 Who are you?

00:06:47.000 Great to see you.

00:06:48.000 What do you do?

00:06:49.000 I'm a guy on the internet.

00:06:51.000 He's a guy on the internet.

00:06:52.000 I think you're like the foremost deep state expert.

00:06:56.000 I dabble.

00:06:57.000 I dabble in the deep.

00:06:59.000 Dabble in the deep.

00:07:00.000 No, but with all due respect, I do believe that when it comes to issues of what we would describe as the deep state, you have uncovered more.

00:07:06.000 You know more about the networks of these institutions and this power and things like that.

00:07:11.000 So I think it'll be great to have you.

00:07:13.000 I'm closer to the NGOs than I am to my own family.

00:07:15.000 So, yes, I know them well.

00:07:18.000 Right on.

00:07:19.000 And we also have Rebecca Zelko.

00:07:20.000 Thank you for having me.

00:07:20.000 Hello.

00:07:21.000 Who are you?

00:07:22.000 I'm a reporter for the Daily Cholera.

00:07:22.000 What do you do?

00:07:24.000 I cover national politics.

00:07:26.000 The boys are hanging out.

00:07:26.000 Right on.

00:07:27.000 What's up?

00:07:29.000 What up?

00:07:30.000 Hi.

00:07:32.000 My name is Phil Abanti.

00:07:32.000 Hello, everybody.

00:07:33.000 I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Bandball that Remains.

00:07:35.000 Yeah, Ian needs no introduction.

00:07:35.000 Let's get into it.

00:07:37.000 He doesn't.

00:07:37.000 But it's good to have the foremost expert on The Blob.

00:07:41.000 The Blob.

00:07:41.000 I like that moniker.

00:07:43.000 Yeah, Mike was just telling me that Ghislaine Maxwell was on the 9 11.

00:07:45.000 Okay, can we not do this right now?

00:07:48.000 Absolutely cannot.

00:07:49.000 It's data.

00:07:49.000 Welcome to the Ian Crossland show.

00:07:51.000 All right.

00:07:52.000 I'm assuming the bathroom was mic'd.

00:07:54.000 All right.

00:07:55.000 Let's get the news.

00:07:55.000 Here we go.

00:07:56.000 We got this from CBS.

00:07:57.000 Two big stories.

00:07:58.000 Carmelo Anthony to a Appeal murder conviction in Frisco Track meeting stabbing.

00:08:03.000 They say that he was sentenced to 35 years in prison.

00:08:06.000 It took jurors two and a half hours.

00:08:07.000 We've got this new photo of him in his jail smock and his shaved head.

00:08:12.000 Dallas appellate attorney David Cole, who has handled appeals for decades, said Anthony's team could have several strong arguments on appeal, but any appeal would not be about what the jury heard.

00:08:22.000 It would center on whether this trial was handled correctly.

00:08:25.000 The Collin County Sheriff's Office said Anthony was transferred to a Texas Department of Criminal Justice facility on Wednesday after spending one night.

00:08:31.000 In Collin County jail.

00:08:32.000 Now, the big, big component of this, Give Send Go has pulled down, they say, this is from Dallas Express.

00:08:39.000 Give Send Go has shut down the official fundraiser for Carmelo Anthony following his conviction for the murder of Austin Metcalf.

00:08:45.000 The move comes one day after Collin County jury convicted him.

00:08:48.000 This we know.

00:08:49.000 With the campaign now shut down following Anthony's murder conviction, the platform is expected to refund donations to contributors, consistent with its policy on campaigns involving individuals convicted of violent crimes.

00:08:59.000 No official announcement has been made regarding the final disbursement of the more than $630,000 raised.

00:09:05.000 Prior to To the Give Send Go campaign being removed, the description posted by the Anthony family read in part as follows This is the official support fund for Carmelo and his family during this challenging and difficult time.

00:09:15.000 GoFundMe removed earlier campaigns for Anthony, citing its policy against fundraisers for the legal defense of violent crimes, per Snopes.

00:09:22.000 Donations to those campaigns were refunded, and the company issued the following statement saying GoFundMe's terms of service prohibit fundraisers for legal defense of violent crimes.

00:09:29.000 Consistent with this longstanding policy, any fundraiser for the legal defense of someone in charge of the violent crime is removed from the platform and fully refunded.

00:09:36.000 So this is interesting.

00:09:37.000 I guess the situation now for Give Send Go is.

00:09:40.000 He is no longer alleged to be.

00:09:42.000 He is now convicted as.

00:09:45.000 And for that, I believe GiveSendGo's policies is like if you literally are raising money for a murderer, they shut that down.

00:09:51.000 However, we did talk with GiveSendGo when all this went down.

00:09:55.000 And the CEO was saying they don't want to be a platform that polices people's ability to fundraise before conviction because that's why everyone's mad at GoFundMe.

00:10:05.000 And while they certainly did not agree with Carmelo Anthony nor side with them, their issue was largely that.

00:10:13.000 They have to be neutral across the board.

00:10:16.000 That's the point of Give, Send, Go.

00:10:18.000 And it's what makes them better than GoFundMe.

00:10:20.000 So now I'm curious how much money was already dispersed to the family and how much money will be refunded back to people who donated.

00:10:28.000 They were donating still as of today.

00:10:31.000 That doesn't surprise me, honestly.

00:10:33.000 I mean, they bought a house, didn't they?

00:10:34.000 His family spent a good portion of the money, from what I understand.

00:10:38.000 So I wonder how they'll be able to refund that.

00:10:40.000 Were they already wealthy?

00:10:41.000 They were already wealthy.

00:10:42.000 I think they rented it.

00:10:43.000 They spent all.

00:10:44.000 All of the money, and if I understand correctly, he had to get a public defense.

00:10:47.000 I think it was like less than half of the donations went to actual legal expenses.

00:10:52.000 I could be wrong on that, but not.

00:10:54.000 Sorry?

00:10:54.000 Didn't he have a public defender?

00:10:56.000 He had a public defender, but he also.

00:10:58.000 I mean, he may have had two defenders.

00:11:00.000 Maybe one of them was private, but I think it is a fact that he had a public one, but I'll fact check that.

00:11:06.000 And the family was wealthy coming into it?

00:11:08.000 Well, they were not destitute, definitely.

00:11:10.000 I don't know how wealthy or what someone's definition of wealthy would be, but they were not a poor, what you would consider a poor family.

00:11:18.000 They were at least middle class, maybe upper middle class.

00:11:21.000 So, are leftist groups outraged over the GoFundMe polling?

00:11:26.000 I honestly.

00:11:27.000 I'm so used to being on the other side of this where it's like, there's like a 13 year old girl who wants to start a cupcake stand, but she voted for Trump.

00:11:36.000 And so now.

00:11:37.000 Yeah.

00:11:38.000 It's just like alien to process that something in a situation like this.

00:11:44.000 As far as I've seen, there aren't formal organizations and there aren't a considerable amount of politicians that are coming out in.

00:11:53.000 Some kind of protest or whatever, it's mostly a racial divide.

00:11:56.000 And I don't imagine that it's the majority of black people, but the black people that are upset about it, they're very vocal.

00:12:04.000 They're very active on social media.

00:12:07.000 Some people are, there are some assaults that you've heard about.

00:12:12.000 There was a guy Tim brought up earlier, Tim probably has it brought up that was assaulted because the black guy thought that he was on the jury.

00:12:20.000 That was in Florida. 0.50

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:22.000 I mean, really in Florida.

00:12:23.000 Yeah, so.

00:12:24.000 You said not all politicians, but Jasmine Crockett, she had some things to say about the trial.

00:12:30.000 Some eloquent things to say, we might add.

00:12:32.000 She brushed it up, I think.

00:12:36.000 Yeah, she was talking to the TMZ reporter today, and she was using all kinds of euphemisms, saying that he punctured Austin, saying that he punctured him with a tool.

00:12:47.000 Yeah.

00:12:48.000 And he said, she said, it was only one time.

00:12:51.000 It wasn't like he was stabbing him multiple times.

00:12:54.000 That's crazy.

00:12:54.000 If you want to call the knife a tool, I will go.

00:12:57.000 Continue to call my firearm a tool because that's what it is.

00:13:01.000 I think it may have been a multi tool.

00:13:04.000 Yeah, that he had.

00:13:04.000 Could be.

00:13:06.000 I saw some report that said that he had a three and a half inch blade attached to a multi tool that he unfolded, which I actually think makes worse because it's harder to pull the knife out on that.

00:13:12.000 Yeah.

00:13:13.000 Yeah, he had a couple seconds to think about it before he decided to kill.

00:13:17.000 If he had like a steak knife or maybe like a buck knife or something and grabbed it, you could be like a passion murder, meaning just in the moment on the fly, he's like, ah, and he grabbed the knife.

00:13:27.000 But he was like.

00:13:28.000 But this was premeditated.

00:13:29.000 Yeah.

00:13:29.000 The fact that he grabbed the blade and prepared it and then go to the mon indicates premeditation.

00:13:34.000 So I haven't been.

00:13:36.000 I remember this when this first happened, but I haven't been following it.

00:13:40.000 Is there like a close question of fact that the protests are alleging, you know, he's actually innocent because it seemed, just from the way it was reported with no diligence coming into it, it seemed pretty open and shut murder?

00:13:56.000 Are these protests.

00:13:59.000 Are they.

00:14:00.000 Are alleging that there's some sort of mistrial and bias, or are they just pro murder?

00:14:04.000 They're pro murder. 0.75

00:14:06.000 Yeah, they're saying that it's generally the people that are protesting are racially motivated, and you hear a lot of things like, well, you know, we have to stick together, and he didn't.

00:14:16.000 And it's in us versus them.

00:14:17.000 Yeah, and it's not just for him to have gotten 35 years, that it should have been less because it was only his first offense.

00:14:25.000 I mean, it's a murder.

00:14:26.000 I think it's all in the matter.

00:14:26.000 It's only his first murder.

00:14:28.000 The issue is this these people that you see outside, and the. 0.98

00:14:33.000 The protesters on the Carmella Anthony side are almost exclusively black, have no idea what's happening in the world. 0.95

00:14:40.000 And so the first problem is that when they're asked questions, they say things that are wildly just not aligned with reality. 0.77

00:14:47.000 However, Savannah Hernandez has that viral video where she asks the black woman, if the evidence shows that this is murder, would you stand by conviction?

00:14:56.000 And she says, no, we're going to stand with our own.

00:14:58.000 They stand with theirs, we stand with ours.

00:14:59.000 Prison rules.

00:15:00.000 Yeah, well, I mean, it's racial, tribal rules, you know?

00:15:04.000 So we found there's some great studies that have been going viral.

00:15:07.000 And Matt Walsh has covered this extensively, and he does a fantastic job of this. 0.68

00:15:11.000 On juries, The only racial group that is neutral in terms of guilty or not guilty pleas by race is white people.

00:15:20.000 So, Asians, they tend to say Asians are not guilty when it comes down to it, and black people especially. 0.53

00:15:28.000 In fact, black people are more likely to say a white person is guilty and a black person is not guilty, not just that black people are not guilty.

00:15:35.000 So, there's a clear racial preference. 0.76

00:15:37.000 But the worrying thing about it is they like to do this meme.

00:15:41.000 There's a clip in Reacher.

00:15:44.000 Where Tom Cruise is trying to hide from the police.

00:15:46.000 So he goes to a bus station and he's very clearly evading cops that are driving down the street. 0.58

00:15:51.000 So a black guy takes his hat off and hands it to him, and another black guy steps in front of him, and Tom Cruise puts the hat on and looks down.

00:15:57.000 And, you know, people are posting online being like, oh, look at that.

00:15:59.000 You know, the brothers are protecting him from the cops because they know what's up.

00:16:02.000 It's actually not true.

00:16:03.000 The data shows that there's a slight percentage increase that black people on a jury, when seeing a white person accused of a crime, are slightly more likely to say he's guilty than someone who, well, Than a white person would have a white person, or even a Latino or Asian person would have a white person.

00:16:19.000 I'd be curious to see a longitudinal study on something like that because that was something that I just remember.

00:16:24.000 I think I was in middle school when the O.J. Simpson trial thing happened.

00:16:29.000 And I think I saw some portion of a documentary years after that where it seemed pretty evident that the jury deliberately admitted it, basically.

00:16:39.000 No, no, no, but today it is known that the jurors have stated explicitly.

00:16:43.000 Right.

00:16:43.000 That's what I think the documentary was saying that it was.

00:16:46.000 Like the jurors basically.

00:16:48.000 In a non racial context, they'd call that like jury nullification.

00:16:51.000 Like you actually see. 1.00

00:16:53.000 Yeah, black people can just kill people, I guess. 1.00

00:16:54.000 Right, right. 1.00

00:16:56.000 But what I mean is like NGOs actually go around, like they went around DC like training juries to like nullify, like that you have a right to just, regardless of what the crime is, say someone is innocent of it because you don't need to follow, like you can make up your own mind about whether or not.

00:17:17.000 You know, to vote guilty or not, regardless of what the judge instructs you.

00:17:22.000 Like, this whole jury nullification line or whatever.

00:17:25.000 But I'm curious whether that has gone up, down, or stayed relatively neutral since, because when the OJ thing happened, there was, I feel like, this sentiment around the black community that, like, okay, we're owed this one. 0.94

00:17:40.000 And then I felt like that kind of, I'm sure that is statistically true, what Tim said.

00:17:47.000 It felt like it was very much in the room in the 90s when there were all these race riots around Rodney King and all this stuff.

00:17:53.000 And then I feel like it sort of probably chilled out for a while.

00:17:58.000 And then I assume came back in a big way during BLM, like 2014, and Obama era.

00:18:04.000 I'm just curious where we are.

00:18:05.000 Like, I'm curious if it's improved, I guess.

00:18:07.000 No, it's, it's, this, what we are seeing now in response to this is, is shocking to me. 0.51

00:18:13.000 And, uh, I was at most of the BLM riots.

00:18:15.000 I mean, I was, I was, I was at the first Trayvon Martin marches in New York City.

00:18:19.000 I was at the Ferguson protest.

00:18:22.000 I was at the Freddie Gray stuff.

00:18:24.000 I was at the activist meetings for these things.

00:18:27.000 And I saw woke and I saw, you know, DEI kind of stuff.

00:18:31.000 But it was like, oh, yeah, look, there's a thing, right?

00:18:35.000 That's how people feel. 1.00

00:18:36.000 The videos we're seeing now in response to this, where they're like, go kill white people, are nuts. 1.00

00:18:41.000 Well, that's to be fair. 0.99

00:18:42.000 To be fair, Jasmine Tabaka, any more airtime.

00:18:44.000 But she literally in the hallway was like, he just wanted to get out of the rain.

00:18:48.000 He didn't do anything.

00:18:50.000 And then at the end of the video, she's talking about, oh, if it was a white guy, I doubt he ever would have even been convicted.

00:18:55.000 It was crazy.

00:18:56.000 The only argument. 0.99

00:18:57.000 She was crazy. 1.00

00:18:57.000 She's an elected official. 1.00

00:18:58.000 I know she's a bit on the extreme end, but still. 1.00

00:19:00.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:19:01.000 Crazy. 0.99

00:19:01.000 They said there was no black people on the jury. 0.99

00:19:04.000 And I don't really know how that came to be.

00:19:06.000 But that's like the closest thing to an argument that they've had that I've seen.

00:19:10.000 But they were claiming it was an all white jury.

00:19:13.000 And then I think the counter was actually, it's not an all white jury. 0.85

00:19:15.000 It's just got no black people on it.

00:19:17.000 But we don't know who the alternates are. 0.96

00:19:18.000 And so I do think that framing is funny.

00:19:22.000 I don't know if the jurors, there were Asians or Latinos on it. 0.99

00:19:26.000 But considering the counter argument, it would be funny if it turned out it was a multi ethnic jury, but without black people. 0.76

00:19:33.000 And so black people just said it was all white. 0.94

00:19:35.000 You know what I mean? 0.64

00:19:37.000 And bringing that point up, they're almost admitting that black people would be more sympathetic towards black people if they were on the jury.

00:19:43.000 That's exactly what they're saying. 1.00

00:19:44.000 It's true, but it's just funny to hear them admit it almost.

00:19:48.000 I, you know, I got to respect them for it. 0.93

00:19:50.000 At least they're being like, man, imagine someone made a post and they said, if white people start acting the way, if white people start acting the way black people do when a black person commits a murder or is murdered, it's going to get ugly. 0.84

00:20:04.000 If white people acted the way that these particular people, the ones that are protesting stuff, if white people acted the way that they say that white people act, there wouldn't be any black people. 0.99

00:20:14.000 Like they swear up and down that it's lynching, that, you know, white people are killing them, they're killing black people and stuff. 0.99

00:20:20.000 It's just total detachment from reality. 0.99

00:20:23.000 Let's pull up this Jasmine Crockett clip.

00:20:25.000 We're going to start light with all of you guys.

00:20:27.000 There's been a crazy reaction to the results of the Carmelo Anthony criminal trial with Democrats still, some of them, trying somehow to defend Carmelo Anthony.

00:20:39.000 Jasmine Crockett starts us off real light and easy.

00:20:42.000 But just wait, because after we play this video, we're going to show you some of the.

00:20:46.000 Street videos where there are direct threats of violence, calls to commit murder, and overt acts of violence against white people because of this ruling.

00:20:56.000 He ended up hitting Austin one time, and it was about where he hit him.

00:21:00.000 One time, two inches. 0.60

00:21:03.000 This wasn't someone who said, Hey, let me stab you five, six, seven times.

00:21:07.000 And so when you're looking at the punishment range, there's a reason in Texas that it goes from five to 99 or life because you are looking at how intentional, like how bad was this?

00:21:19.000 35 years for a kid who had decided to go under a tent that was not his teen's tent as it was raining and simply didn't want to be put out in the rain by some random kid that he didn't know who was larger than him.

00:21:33.000 Listen, a lot of people don't know what it is to live as a black person in this country, but just like you can give the benefit of the doubt to so many police officers when they go out and they shoot some black unarmed person, even though they are trained, the fact that there was little to no mercy seen or humanity seen when.

00:21:52.000 They don't know what is happening.

00:21:54.000 They don't.

00:21:55.000 I mean, just the narrative that she's spinning 35 years when he could have had 99, that's actually fairly merciful.

00:22:03.000 The whole bringing up the BLM narrative, which has been patently debunked the idea that white police officers are killing unarmed black men in the streets in the hundreds or thousands every year. 0.55

00:22:14.000 This is all just totally detached from reality.

00:22:17.000 And then to talk about privilege from the halls of Congress, a black woman in the halls of Congress, unreal, just unreal. 0.65

00:22:25.000 The way she just said he hit him one time, but with a knife.

00:22:29.000 So, what she is saying outright is Carmelo Anthony didn't want to stand in the rain.

00:22:35.000 This is what I've been saying the whole time.

00:22:37.000 Carmelo Anthony went into the tent and it was raining.

00:22:39.000 And they said, get out of our tent.

00:22:41.000 And he felt disrespected.

00:22:43.000 He didn't want to let these dudes make him stand in the rain or run through the rain to a different tent.

00:22:48.000 So, according to all of the witnesses, the gist of the story is he refused.

00:22:52.000 They asked him several times.

00:22:54.000 He reaches in his bag, draws the knife, grips it in his hand.

00:22:57.000 Someone actually said, Be careful, he's got a weapon.

00:23:01.000 Austin apparently said he doesn't got a weapon.

00:23:03.000 Dude said, Touch me and see what happens.

00:23:05.000 He said, I'm not going to fight you at a track meet, dude.

00:23:07.000 And when he walked up to him, one witness said, Before he could even shove him, because people have claimed he shoved him, this witness said he didn't give it a chance to shove him because Carmelo Anthony stabbed him before he was even able to do it.

00:23:17.000 Like in the throat?

00:23:18.000 Only once.

00:23:18.000 Right in the chest.

00:23:19.000 Right in the heart, yes. 1.00

00:23:20.000 Right, piercing his heart, killing him. 0.54

00:23:22.000 And it's important to understand a couple of things. 0.79

00:23:25.000 He unfolded the blade and prepared it in advance, premeditation.

00:23:29.000 The fact that he stabbed him in the chest. 0.99

00:23:31.000 Intent to kill.

00:23:32.000 Chest stabs are almost always lethal. 0.96

00:23:35.000 You're going to puncture the lung, and people don't know first day this person's going to die in a couple of minutes from a sucking chest wound, or you're going to hit him in the heart.

00:23:42.000 And that's what he did.

00:23:44.000 So I think it's, I think, here's my profile on Carmelo Anthony.

00:23:49.000 So apparently it started to rain.

00:23:50.000 He tried to go into a dugout.

00:23:51.000 They told him, you can't go over here, go somewhere else.

00:23:53.000 So he ran up to a tent.

00:23:54.000 They said, bro, you can't come into our tent.

00:23:57.000 And he's like, you're not going to make me stand in the rain.

00:23:59.000 In his mind, he's thinking, they're disrespecting me.

00:24:02.000 And I'm not going to let him disrespect me.

00:24:04.000 Molten rain or acid rain.

00:24:06.000 Like, this is just regular old rain.

00:24:07.000 Regular old rain.

00:24:08.000 And this is what I want people to understand.

00:24:08.000 Okay.

00:24:11.000 He was the aggressor, prepared a knife.

00:24:15.000 He could have just stood in the rain.

00:24:16.000 And so, this is the distinction.

00:24:18.000 You know, I've told this story before about how New Jersey handles gun laws, they invert it.

00:24:23.000 So, when I had a guy try to break into my house, I was talking to the cops, and, you know, one cop was like, if it were me, I'd answer the door with a shotgun.

00:24:32.000 And then I was like, oh, like, how do I do it?

00:24:33.000 And they're like, oh, well, actually, you have a duty to retreat.

00:24:36.000 And I was like, I'm sitting, I'm in my house, I'm like, retreat to where is my house?

00:24:36.000 In New Jersey.

00:24:40.000 And they were like, listen to what you're saying.

00:24:42.000 Put yourself down your own toilet.

00:24:43.000 They said, but this is the funny thing about liberals.

00:24:45.000 The cop said, listen. 0.99

00:24:48.000 He's like, I'm not advising on anything legal, but sounds to me like you want to tell a judge, I would rather shoot a man and kill him than stand outside. 0.99

00:24:55.000 And I was like, I get it. 0.99

00:24:57.000 That's how these blue states operate.

00:24:58.000 You get, a guy breaks in your house, and you are like, I'm shooting him, he's breaking in my house.

00:25:04.000 You will get arrested and charged with felony murder.

00:25:06.000 Murder.

00:25:07.000 And when you go before the jury and the judge, you'll say, He broke into my house and I was scared, so I shot him.

00:25:12.000 And they will ask, Did you attempt to flee?

00:25:14.000 And your response is, No.

00:25:17.000 Where would I go?

00:25:18.000 And outside.

00:25:18.000 And they're like, Well, I don't know where to go outside.

00:25:20.000 And they're like, You would rather kill a man than be standing outside somewhere.

00:25:25.000 That's intent to murder.

00:25:26.000 Your Honor, it was raining outside.

00:25:28.000 Now think about how the left is handling this.

00:25:30.000 To be fair, I think most people are not siding with them. 0.85

00:25:33.000 But people like Jasmine Crockett, hey, look, she's a Dem and she is siding with them.

00:25:37.000 Her attitude is, He should not have been made to stand in the rain.

00:25:41.000 So you got to give him sympathy for stabbing somebody in the chest.

00:25:44.000 He was just a kid.

00:25:46.000 Does anyone know what district Crockett represents?

00:25:46.000 He was 17.

00:25:49.000 Just, I think, north of where the.

00:25:51.000 It's like Dallas, right?

00:25:52.000 Yeah, like Dallas area.

00:25:53.000 Here we go.

00:25:54.000 You guys ready for this one?

00:26:00.000 This dude riding a bike.

00:26:02.000 Don't be a menace.

00:26:03.000 Here you go.

00:26:04.000 Watch this 30.

00:26:04.000 Hey, weren't you on jurisdiction?

00:26:06.000 No, he wasn't.

00:26:08.000 No, he wasn't.

00:26:09.000 He wasn't even allowed to answer the question.

00:26:15.000 He was on jurisdiction.

00:26:18.000 He drew a knife. 1.00

00:26:19.000 You're going to die. 1.00

00:26:20.000 You're going to die. 1.00

00:26:22.000 You're on jurisdiction. 1.00

00:26:25.000 That man was not on a jury.

00:26:31.000 That dude sitting on the ground at a bus stop or something was not a jury guy.

00:26:36.000 That dude doesn't want to go to jury duty.

00:26:38.000 Look at him.

00:26:39.000 He's not going to jury duty.

00:26:40.000 I think we got to be careful on this one, but I want to play it for you guys.

00:26:44.000 So we'll try and be careful with this video. 1.00

00:26:46.000 Ain't no fucking judicial justice for black people. 1.00

00:26:49.000 How many motherfucking decades and decades have to go by where you don't receive that? 1.00

00:26:54.000 Your justice is fucking frontier justice. 1.00

00:26:58.000 They kill one of y'all, you kill one of them. 1.00

00:27:01.000 Now, I just want to pause real quick. 1.00

00:27:05.000 Is he talking about white people right now? 0.94

00:27:06.000 Because Carmelo Anthony killed a white guy. 0.64

00:27:08.000 I mean, he goes on to say more things I'm not going to play because he gets.

00:27:13.000 He says things that we can't play on YouTube.

00:27:15.000 Someone needs to remind him that an eye for an eye doesn't work out when you're only 13% of a population.

00:27:22.000 Wait, but where is the other eye?

00:27:26.000 Who's the one? 0.99

00:27:27.000 Well, I assume that some white guy killed a black guy the day before. 0.67

00:27:32.000 I don't think he knows the facts of the case. 0.88

00:27:34.000 No, they don't even know what they're talking about.

00:27:35.000 This is the whole thing.

00:27:38.000 In one of the videos, there's the activists outside, and the woman says something like, What am I supposed to tell my kids?

00:27:43.000 You know, I got five kids.

00:27:44.000 And then a guy goes, Trayvon Martin.

00:27:46.000 And it's like, What?

00:27:46.000 Trayvon Martin was ground pounding Zimmerman, bashing him in the face.

00:27:50.000 So he got shot.

00:27:50.000 I mean, it was a tragic misunderstanding between two parties that resulted in a fight, and Zimmerman was getting beaten up, so he shot the kid.

00:27:57.000 It sucks that it happened, but Zimmerman was a Hispanic guy.

00:27:59.000 And so to these people, he's like, Justice. 0.94

00:28:02.000 What's justice to him?

00:28:04.000 Carmelo Anthony stabs a kid who literally said, I'm not going to fight you, and Carmelo shouldn't go to jail.

00:28:09.000 Think about what that means.

00:28:11.000 Yeah, you know, because I feel like race relations have gotten better in the past couple of years.

00:28:15.000 Again, maybe I'm in a bubble, but it, like, okay, so I mean, even take, like, the Trump 2024 election.

00:28:21.000 Trump won a way more racially diverse, like, coalition than he had previously.

00:28:28.000 Maybe just within the MAGA movement, I just see, like, just a ton of inclusion around the African American community.

00:28:34.000 And there's, I think, as the kind of Trump equals Hitler, Trump equals KKK stuff has just gotten maybe old and stale and just like, Well, actually, I think that shows that race relations are getting worse.

00:28:47.000 So, we were talking about the other day like, there was a young white woman outside of the courtroom who made two, what I would describe as racial statements.

00:28:57.000 She said the people outside were chimping out and then referred to what they were doing as a racial slur activity that we can't see on YouTube.

00:29:04.000 And young people are just unabashed now.

00:29:09.000 They don't care. 0.64

00:29:10.000 The reason why no one really cares about Trump being called white supremacist or racist is because Gen Z is like, yep. 0.77

00:29:17.000 Okay. 0.99

00:29:18.000 And then they start throwing end bombs around like Gypsy Crusader videos. 0.97

00:29:22.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:29:24.000 The, the, like, like you're saying, the extremes have gotten worse.

00:29:29.000 The, the left has been using, has been stoking racial tensions since, I mean, arguably since 2010, when it really kind of busted on the scene.

00:29:39.000 I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that with social media and having a cell phone in your pocket that basically lets you know anytime you get a notification, right?

00:29:46.000 People see these things.

00:29:48.000 Brought into their feed a lot.

00:29:50.000 And so the people that are very active online, politically active, which there's a, you know, the Venn diagram for that is probably a circle or very close to it.

00:29:59.000 These people have really internalized the idea of a lot of racial strife.

00:30:04.000 There was a lot of talk, you don't hear the phrase much nowadays, but when people were talking about critical race theory, this is the goal of critical race theory, right?

00:30:11.000 To awaken a critical racial consciousness, to make people aware of their race, not just black people or Hispanics, but make.

00:30:19.000 Everyone is aware.

00:30:21.000 And then to set up to figure out the oppressor oppressed narrative and that, the dynamic.

00:30:25.000 So that way, the people that are oppressed will align against the oppressors.

00:30:29.000 In the case of the United States, it's minorities against whites.

00:30:31.000 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:30:32.000 Sinn Féin was the political party of the IRA, wasn't it?

00:30:36.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:30:37.000 The political wing?

00:30:38.000 I don't know for sure. 1.00

00:30:39.000 But they are also the ones that are like, bring the migrants into Ireland. 1.00

00:30:42.000 And right now, there's riots happening in Belfast. 0.99

00:30:44.000 I'm going to go with the probably not correct conspiracy theory that they give up the fighting because they're like, we can't muster up enough support for Irish nationalism, so we're losing. 0.84

00:30:56.000 So they create this political party, they push through this political party, bringing in as many non Irish as possible so that everyone has an Irish racial awakening. 0.79

00:31:05.000 And now people are riding in the streets, Northern Ireland and Ireland angry together as Irish. 0.67

00:31:12.000 Shin Fine aligned with the Democratic Socialist.

00:31:14.000 They were a Democratic Socialist party, yeah.

00:31:16.000 Well, I mean, it's just also, you could see it as like a continuation of the war against the British Crown in a way. 0.99

00:31:21.000 Like importing, yeah. 0.96

00:31:23.000 Well, I mean, look, historically, the right has been the monarch.

00:31:27.000 And the people that are looking to keep the established order, and the left are the people that are against that.

00:31:33.000 And when you've got a group of people that, even though Ireland has historically been pretty nationalistic, they look at themselves as opposed to the crown, they're going to say that they're the left because the crown is obviously the right as the monarchy.

00:31:47.000 Right.

00:31:48.000 Well, I mean, so I guess part of it is you know, when it's really hot in the country because there's protests, there's widespread public disorder, the police are scared, the mayor's office is scared, and the like.

00:32:01.000 And for the past couple years, there's been threats.

00:32:03.000 I mean, obviously, it popped off in Minnesota around like the ICE stuff. 0.74

00:32:08.000 But frankly, a lot of that was the Hispanic organizing groups more so than the black ones. 0.51

00:32:13.000 And I don't know if it's because USAID money dried up a lot of the NGO stuff or Dems having trouble fundraising and the like. 0.69

00:32:20.000 But the like, I look at this, and what's so interesting and unusual about this is you do tend to see this type of like insanity rabble rousing when there's an open question of fact, even if it's like 95%.

00:32:34.000 Likely that they're wrong.

00:32:35.000 There's like something they're hanging their hat on, which begs the question of whether he actually did it or not.

00:32:44.000 You know, he's actually guilty.

00:32:45.000 In this case, it looks like everyone knows he's guilty.

00:32:48.000 And the question is just whether he deserves 35 years.

00:32:51.000 You know, I want to jump into the story.

00:32:55.000 We're going to shift into the election stuff.

00:32:56.000 We got this from the New Republic.

00:32:57.000 Johnson says California election fraud is so bad it can't be proven.

00:33:02.000 Apparently, it's more of a vibes based thing for Mike Johnson.

00:33:05.000 They go on to say, asked whether he thought the LA mayoral election was rigged, how Speaker Mike Johnson did what he does best, steered away from the facts and embraced nebulous speculation.

00:33:13.000 Quote, I'm not saying it's rigged, I'm saying it stinks to high heaven, and everybody knows that.

00:33:17.000 Let's remove the appearance of impropriety.

00:33:19.000 What a concept.

00:33:20.000 Let's have votes on election day, on the day of the election.

00:33:23.000 CNN correspondent Manu Raju asked Johnson what evidence there was to support his vague complaints.

00:33:28.000 Unsurprisingly, the Louisiana politician couldn't provide a whiff of it.

00:33:31.000 Look, some of these efforts are so diabolical and so far upstream, it's impossible to prove.

00:33:35.000 But I think everybody knows instinctively something is wrong here.

00:33:37.000 I'm going to tell you right away what the problem is.

00:33:40.000 The problem is that if you are a smart person, you don't run for Congress.

00:33:46.000 You will be successful in other ways and probably make a lot more money.

00:33:49.000 So the midwits run for Congress, and you end up with all due respect, I guess, you know, not to be completely disrespectful to Johnson, but with all due respect to him, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

00:33:59.000 He's ill prepared for these circumstances, and perhaps he wasn't smart enough to look into them before making comments on them.

00:34:04.000 It's actually quite easy to answer these questions, so I'll do it for Mr. Speaker.

00:34:09.000 So if Manu Raju said, What evidence was there?

00:34:13.000 To support the claim that it is rigged and that they are cheating.

00:34:16.000 How about we go with the Secretary of State's governmental administration on signature verification and what qualifies as a ballot?

00:34:24.000 We'll go to section 20991, subsection 8, which reads Vote by mail ballot identification envelope has no dated postmark.

00:34:30.000 The postmark is illegible, and there is no date stamp for the receipt from a bona fide private mail delivery service.

00:34:37.000 But the voter has dated the vote by mail identification envelope.

00:34:42.000 In other words, ballots can be accepted seven days after the election, hand backdated, with a smiley face as a signature.

00:34:54.000 What evidence do I have?

00:34:56.000 It's in their own laws on the government website.

00:34:59.000 So I'm going to stress this.

00:35:00.000 On election day, Nithya Raman cries.

00:35:03.000 She doesn't concede, but she cries because she gets crushed.

00:35:07.000 Somehow, over the next week, they magically muster up a massive performance boost in mail in votes.

00:35:14.000 Now, how do you prove fraud when fraud is legal?

00:35:17.000 You can't.

00:35:18.000 There's no fraud.

00:35:19.000 This is legal.

00:35:21.000 So let me put it simply for you.

00:35:22.000 They look at the votes, they say Spencer Pratt's up by 40K.

00:35:26.000 How do we beat them?

00:35:27.000 We need, so you look at the proportion of votes that have come in 39, 28, 20.

00:35:33.000 That was the proportion among the candidates, I believe.

00:35:36.000 Then you say, okay, so we need to make 100,000 ballots that go 60% for Nithia, 10 or 20 for Spencer Pratt, and then maybe 10 or 20 for Karen Bass.

00:35:48.000 The way I said it on X, when you are in a rush to find as many votes as possible to eliminate the sole Republican, you don't have time to balance the vote count.

00:35:57.000 So here's how it works.

00:35:59.000 First, general ballot harvesting is cheating.

00:36:01.000 It's electioneering, and by all standards of elections, it should be illegal.

00:36:06.000 You cannot go to a polling location and tell people who to vote for and tell them you will help them vote.

00:36:11.000 But they never created a law to coincide with mail in voting.

00:36:15.000 So you are legally allowed to electioneer at a private home.

00:36:18.000 Tell them, fill out that ballot.

00:36:20.000 I'll fill it out for you and tell you who to vote for.

00:36:23.000 And then put a smiley face on it and I'll say it's all good.

00:36:26.000 The best part is the day after the election, When they know they need 40,000 votes to beat Spencer Pratt, they can actually fill out a ballot on the spot, write a back date by hand, and they don't need a signature.

00:36:40.000 They can use Kirby Star from Nintendo.

00:36:43.000 That's an explicit example used by the government in California to represent a mark.

00:36:49.000 And then when they turn that in, they say, What's the signature?

00:36:51.000 It's a little cartoon character.

00:36:53.000 What's the date on it?

00:36:54.000 They wrote in election day.

00:36:56.000 All good.

00:36:57.000 That's how they are cheating.

00:36:59.000 It's right there on the Secretary of State's website for California.

00:37:03.000 Now, there is something big.

00:37:05.000 I was asked by a journalist today, what's the big story that Republicans need to be focused on?

00:37:10.000 I said, oh, it's Watson VRNC.

00:37:12.000 Are you tracking this one?

00:37:13.000 I know.

00:37:14.000 Going to be ruled on in a couple of weeks.

00:37:17.000 And if it is expected, the Supreme Court will end vote counting after Election Day.

00:37:23.000 That's the narrow ruling.

00:37:24.000 If they go broad, they will end vote collecting before Election Day.

00:37:29.000 And they will say elections must take place on the prescribed day, a single day.

00:37:34.000 But that's for federal elections.

00:37:35.000 If they go real broad with it, they can rule all elections must follow the formula codified in Congress that elections are to be held on a single day.

00:37:45.000 That means primary elections, which affect federal elections, must be single day elections where people know they can come and vote and you don't count votes after the fact.

00:37:52.000 If that happens, Republicans never lose again.

00:37:56.000 So, what happens if, you know, I'm at work, I have a deadline, I tell everyone I'm going to do it.

00:38:04.000 Everyone expects and is banked on me having it done by 5 p.m., but I just don't get it done.

00:38:10.000 Like in this case, okay, so would there be legal liability for the officials?

00:38:15.000 Because I could see a situation where they say, we know that's the law, but darn, there were so many and we were so understaffed, we just couldn't get it done.

00:38:24.000 Like, I can't imagine that they just call the winner election night just based on the ballots they counted.

00:38:30.000 Because if they did that, then they would only count the Democrat votes first in California.

00:38:35.000 But if there's legal liability, like if there's a criminal penalty, if there's 35 years for whatever the head of the local election commission or the, if there's personal liability, Like, it'll be interesting to see if they go broad on that, how that gets like.

00:38:52.000 Remedied?

00:38:52.000 Yeah, like how they.

00:38:54.000 But you make a good point.

00:38:55.000 There's always going to be some kind of cheating.

00:38:57.000 And I imagine if they do go broad and say elections on a single day, California is going to be like, well, you know, these are the districts that we count first for no reason.

00:39:05.000 Right, for no reason.

00:39:06.000 All Democrat districts.

00:39:07.000 Yeah.

00:39:08.000 Or what the Supreme Court may say is that you can only count votes that were received on the day of the election.

00:39:15.000 So it's going to be interesting how they rule on this one.

00:39:17.000 I think what they have to do is end mail in voting.

00:39:19.000 The Supreme Court would have to say ballots must be received at a polling location right there and delivered because that's the only way to get around this.

00:39:30.000 You can count all ballots received on election day so long as they were given to the voter on election day.

00:39:36.000 That's the only thing they do.

00:39:37.000 I hope that's what they do.

00:39:38.000 So then midnight comes and it's like, well, these ballots are from today.

00:39:41.000 You can count them.

00:39:43.000 Didn't the SAVE Act just fail?

00:39:45.000 Didn't it just get shot down?

00:39:47.000 Wasn't that supposed to happen?

00:39:48.000 Of course, there's absolutely no appetite.

00:39:50.000 For that to get passed in the Senate.

00:39:52.000 I wonder, I wonder, I wonder though, that's because they know with Watson v. R. N. C., the SCOTUS is about to strike it down and they don't need to start a political fight over it.

00:40:00.000 Or they're going to hold it in their back pocket to see what the Supreme Court does.

00:40:02.000 Doesn't seem like they want to have a political fight over anything important, though, over there.

00:40:07.000 Seems like Congress doesn't want to do anything.

00:40:08.000 Yeah, they seem like Speaker Johnson doesn't want to read the news about what's going on in California either.

00:40:12.000 The one thing Speaker Johnson did say that I think is true is that you kind of just know that there's something fishy about that whole situation.

00:40:19.000 When you see that spike on like what was it?

00:40:22.000 Day two, like that feeling, probably like.

00:40:25.000 And I think it was either Saturday or Sunday when they had that mail in ballot dump that just surged Nithya Raman.

00:40:31.000 Like, I don't think it's totally implausible for someone like Raman, a progressive lady, to do well in LA.

00:40:37.000 That's not the implausible thing.

00:40:38.000 It was this sudden surge in support.

00:40:41.000 And then Karen Bass's vote share in the mail in dump didn't really change.

00:40:45.000 It went down. 0.99

00:40:46.000 It went down three points.

00:40:47.000 Yeah.

00:40:47.000 Which also, that is extremely interesting.

00:40:49.000 I think she lost her own district to Pratt.

00:40:52.000 Nithya Raman lost her own council district.

00:40:55.000 That's where her name ID is.

00:40:57.000 How does that make sense?

00:40:58.000 Check this out.

00:40:58.000 This is San Bernardino County signature verification training, statewide special election, November 4th, 2025.

00:41:05.000 This is the special election training under state law.

00:41:09.000 And this is the best I found because it uses Kirby.

00:41:12.000 I mean, certainly there are ones that use Xs because there's something in California they call a mark.

00:41:15.000 You can make your mark, they say.

00:41:17.000 But I find the use of Kirby to be the funniest.

00:41:20.000 So we'll just scroll down and take a look at what constitutes a signature.

00:41:23.000 You can draw a dick on it and it would just count as a signature.

00:41:26.000 Yeah, indeed. 0.99

00:41:26.000 Yes. 0.99

00:41:26.000 Yep. 0.99

00:41:27.000 But hold on, hold on. 1.00

00:41:28.000 You have to pre register the dick pic. 0.99

00:41:31.000 Okay. 0.99

00:41:31.000 Okay, so check it out. 0.99

00:41:32.000 Kirby Star.

00:41:34.000 Look at this.

00:41:35.000 Look at this.

00:41:36.000 They're actually putting Kirby Star down.

00:41:39.000 Some probably ultra lib nerd video game person did this.

00:41:43.000 Here's my favorite.

00:41:44.000 We scroll down and they give us an example of making your mark.

00:41:49.000 Identifiable and with unique similarities and no letters.

00:41:53.000 Pictures or symbols can be used as valid signatures.

00:41:55.000 Since we have this symbol on file, it is considered valid.

00:41:58.000 Now, here's what's funny the top picture is Kirby waving, the second picture is Kirby.

00:42:03.000 Jumping.

00:42:04.000 Wait, what?

00:42:04.000 It's totally different.

00:42:04.000 It's not even the signature.

00:42:07.000 No fucking way. 0.97

00:42:09.000 This is a valid California ballot signature. 1.00

00:42:12.000 They count these votes.

00:42:15.000 I'm going to rewrite my signature.

00:42:16.000 Mike's like, what?

00:42:16.000 I got to come up with something else.

00:42:17.000 I don't get it.

00:42:18.000 The signature thing's kind of weird because it's all trust based.

00:42:21.000 Like, who could?

00:42:24.000 A million people could just write my name and no one would question it.

00:42:28.000 Everyone in this room can draw a picture of Kirby.

00:42:31.000 You know, maybe signatures were kind of fading out of.

00:42:34.000 You know, your process is questionable when you've lost Ian Crossland.

00:42:39.000 What about a thumbprint?

00:42:41.000 Some sort of biometric.

00:42:42.000 I don't know how a human would verify that.

00:42:44.000 There's a ton of legal stuff you can sign literally just typing it out with like a cursive font.

00:42:48.000 As well.

00:42:49.000 Like, they'll let pretty much anything slide with signatures.

00:42:51.000 Yeah, bro, this is absolutely wild because here's the thing like, a signature is supposed to be unique to you and they're hard to replicate.

00:42:59.000 So, you sign your name in a certain way that people have to practice to try and copy, and someone who's truly trained can look and be like, that's not the same signature.

00:43:06.000 These are, these are, these are, this is a picture of Kirby from Nintendo.

00:43:11.000 Yeah, that was like from 100 years ago when your signature, no one ever saw it because there was no internet, there was no TV.

00:43:17.000 So, it was pretty unique to you, but now, The point was, if you had some kind of deed or card on you that showed a signature, so let's say you united a contract, I would sign it and then maybe even do a wax seal with like a stamp on it because your stamp is unique.

00:43:30.000 But let's say I sign it.

00:43:32.000 Later on, when I'm showing that, they'll be like, Is this you?

00:43:35.000 You'll sign and show your signature to prove that you were the one who originally signed it.

00:43:39.000 It would be hard for a stranger to copy your signature.

00:43:41.000 They couldn't do it.

00:43:42.000 A picture of Kirby?

00:43:44.000 Come on, everyone in this room can draw that.

00:43:45.000 But isn't there that allegation that Hunter Biden was like mad at his landlord and like signed?

00:43:51.000 The paperwork with like his own poop or something.

00:43:53.000 Did you guys hear the?

00:43:55.000 I didn't hear that.

00:43:56.000 I think it was, I remember there's this dispute with, I think it was Sean McGuire versus Hunter Biden on this.

00:44:01.000 And there was like this allegation.

00:44:04.000 I need to confirm that.

00:44:05.000 But like, this isn't, I mean, okay, because I already thought the vote, the signature thing was completely, because it's already such a, like, and who's going to, like.

00:44:16.000 But the thing about this is the absurdity of it being Kirby, but also the fact that they are showing explicitly, it seems Kirby.

00:44:23.000 They are different Kirby's.

00:44:24.000 Mm hmm.

00:44:25.000 So it's like.

00:44:26.000 Is one the printed version and one's the signature version?

00:44:28.000 You know what you do?

00:44:29.000 Yeah, one's loaded.

00:44:31.000 But here's the point.

00:44:32.000 Here's why you do this.

00:44:34.000 If you are doing.

00:44:35.000 James O'Keefe went and documented this.

00:44:38.000 There's a known phenomenon.

00:44:39.000 I don't want to try and diminish the work that James O'Keefe did, but he went down and he caught these petitioners who pay homeless people to sign, to get people on ballots, to get referendums and things like this.

00:44:50.000 If you go to a homeless person, you're going to be saying, like, listen, if you write a unique signature, we're not going to be able to replicate it.

00:44:56.000 We need these to pass muster.

00:44:58.000 So do a smiley face.

00:45:00.000 That way, when it comes time to collect these ballots and forge them, put a smiley face.

00:45:07.000 They're completely different pictures, but they look the same.

00:45:09.000 They're being coached to do that?

00:45:11.000 James O'Keefe got us on video.

00:45:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:12.000 Here's where it gets crazy.

00:45:14.000 So the New York Post found 185 homeless people registered to a homeless shelter where they don't live because it's a homeless shelter, right?

00:45:19.000 Here's the crazy part 185 mail in ballots are going to drop in the lap of that homeless shelter.

00:45:24.000 This shelter actually received $600,000 from Nithia Raman, though I don't think she gave him the grant for voting.

00:45:30.000 185 votes doesn't move the needle.

00:45:31.000 But when those ballots come in, who's tracking them?

00:45:35.000 What if someone forges those ballots?

00:45:37.000 Maybe.

00:45:39.000 If you try to investigate the fraud and you show up to the address on file and they say it's a homeless shelter and you say, How do I find Rick Smith who voted here?

00:45:48.000 They go, Good luck, he's homeless.

00:45:50.000 And that's it.

00:45:51.000 You will never be able to figure out who he voted for.

00:45:51.000 Cold case.

00:45:54.000 And 185 votes doesn't sound like much in one shelter, but what if they're doing this with 100 shelters?

00:45:58.000 Exactly.

00:45:59.000 All of a sudden now, there's a lot of money that goes.

00:46:02.000 And that money comes from the people.

00:46:04.000 Who are the politicians who are like the grantors on the?

00:46:08.000 Nifia Rahman signed a $600,000 grant to the homeless shelter.

00:46:11.000 I'm going to say it again.

00:46:13.000 We got blockchain voting.

00:46:15.000 I'm trying to send this link Mike gave me to us, but it's for some reason not.

00:46:21.000 Yeah, and you can also just look on X if you just type like speak, read, Chinese with three question marks.

00:46:28.000 What is that?

00:46:30.000 Speak, read, Chinese?

00:46:31.000 Speak, read, that's one word, Chinese with three exclamations.

00:46:35.000 On X? 0.94

00:46:36.000 Three question marks here.

00:46:37.000 I'll just.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, on X. Sounds cryptic.

00:46:40.000 Speak, read? 1.00

00:46:42.000 Chinese, question mark, question mark, question mark. 0.89

00:46:47.000 Is it who posted it?

00:46:47.000 You want to just retweet it and I'll go to your page?

00:46:49.000 Angel of Zach, I think.

00:46:52.000 So, this person.

00:46:57.000 Did you want to just retweet it and I'll go to your page?

00:46:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:00.000 Here you go.

00:47:01.000 Boom.

00:47:02.000 MikeBenz on Twitter.

00:47:04.000 You probably are.

00:47:05.000 At MikeBenzCyber.

00:47:07.000 Yeah, so I just RT'd it.

00:47:08.000 I got it.

00:47:09.000 So, I was streaming earlier this week talking about this, and this person actually went to the California.

00:47:18.000 Page registered to vote as a 103 year old Chinese woman with no social security number.

00:47:26.000 No, like if you click on that second screenshot there, am I good?

00:47:29.000 Oh, yeah, I see.

00:47:31.000 And this is what she filled out date of birth 1923.

00:47:34.000 So she's 103 years old.

00:47:35.000 She has no driver's license, no ID card, no social security number, only speaks Chinese, but just said that she lives in LA.

00:47:45.000 So no documentation beyond that.

00:47:47.000 And then if you go to the next one, Uh, like, or the one after this, you'll see, like, basically, you can do it without signature, and then boom, she got uh, she just put a random address, and there's going to be a write in absentee mail in ballot that's just going to be wow, federal as a 103 year old Chinese woman with no. 0.50

00:48:11.000 So, you could do, I mean, you could just have a smiley shop factory line, yep, and just create these. 0.64

00:48:17.000 Well, there's there's there's video of James O'Keefe.

00:48:20.000 His undercover reporters talking to a homeless guy, and he's like, My name's Teresa.

00:48:24.000 And he's just writing down, they're filming these petitioners, and they're paying the homeless $2 to $3 to sign these things.

00:48:29.000 They're paying them?

00:48:31.000 Yeah.

00:48:33.000 Yeah.

00:48:34.000 That's got to be a crime.

00:48:35.000 It is a crime.

00:48:37.000 And when they went to the police, the cops were like, I don't know anything about it.

00:48:40.000 It's probably a civil thing.

00:48:41.000 And they were giving them like two or three bucks, so it's just like, you know, lunch money.

00:48:45.000 It was a real show of force when the feds took action on what Nick Shirley did.

00:48:48.000 That was a, I mean, so much so that California.

00:48:51.000 Did this stop Nick Shirley like legislation, right?

00:48:54.000 I mean, if we see arrests on that James O'Keefe video, if that's as valid as it's being described, I mean, that would at least send a message.

00:49:07.000 I mean, look, I don't know what the mechanism to do that would be because the states, California has made their laws so that way most of this stuff is illegal and the federal government isn't.

00:49:22.000 You know, it doesn't have the power to regulate state.

00:49:25.000 You know, Congress has to do it.

00:49:26.000 What Johnson should say when someone at CNN, you know what, I will say this if asked.

00:49:31.000 If they say, What is your evidence that, you know, was rigged or there's voter fraud?

00:49:36.000 I'll say, They've already uncovered that there are ballots that were received after the election with no postmark and the signatures were doodles.

00:49:46.000 And when they go, What, where is it?

00:49:47.000 I'll be like, Here, let me show you on the Secretary of State's website saying to do it.

00:49:51.000 Their only response is going to be, Oh, well, that's allowed.

00:49:53.000 I'll be like, Really?

00:49:55.000 Okay, I call that cheating.

00:49:56.000 Right. 1.00

00:49:57.000 There was a California woman who was charged with something just like that.

00:50:01.000 This is from the DOJ website saying that she worked as a longtime signature collector for ballot initiatives.

00:50:07.000 And she has been charged with paying individuals, including homeless people living in the Skid Row area of downtown Los Angeles, to register to vote.

00:50:15.000 What was that case?

00:50:15.000 In May?

00:50:16.000 In May.

00:50:16.000 This is the DOJ website.

00:50:17.000 There's a woman who registered her dog to vote and then voted for her dog intentionally to prove a point about California, and they charged her with felonies.

00:50:25.000 They only found out because she admitted it.

00:50:27.000 She came out and said, I did it.

00:50:28.000 She memed it.

00:50:29.000 Yeah, she memed it.

00:50:30.000 She was like, My dog's voting.

00:50:32.000 And they were like, Uh oh.

00:50:33.000 And the vote counted?

00:50:34.000 Yeah.

00:50:36.000 Who'd he vote for?

00:50:37.000 It reminds me of The Simpsons when Bart gets a credit card for his dog.

00:50:41.000 Santos L. Helper.

00:50:43.000 And then it was a joke, but I guess you can say Simpsons predicted it.

00:50:47.000 Dogs are voting.

00:50:48.000 From what I understand, though, U.S. Attorney Bill Assaley, I think that's how you say his name, he announced last week that they're doing some investigations into the election fraud.

00:50:56.000 I haven't seen updates from that.

00:50:57.000 Granted, it was a week ago.

00:50:59.000 But it seems like some of the Trump admin allies are taking a look at it, which is, you know, we'll see what happens.

00:51:05.000 This is also why we can't have a popular vote.

00:51:07.000 Because they would just have a factory in L.A. that would just print enough.

00:51:11.000 To win the federal election.

00:51:12.000 This is why we need to limit the franchise as much as we possibly can.

00:51:15.000 We need to change laws.

00:51:16.000 Let's jump to the next component of this from the New York Times.

00:51:19.000 ActBlue CEO invokes the fifth repeatedly in testimony to Congress.

00:51:23.000 How about we just play it?

00:51:25.000 You can hear for yourself how damning it is.

00:51:27.000 Ms. Wallace Jones, in 2023, I sent you this letter with five straightforward questions with a goal of confirming that foreign funds are not in our elections and that ActBlue had adequate fraud prevention measures.

00:51:42.000 In place.

00:51:43.000 Quick context Act Blue is the fundraising platform for the Democratic Party.

00:51:48.000 They had been accused of not only accepting foreign money for Democrat nonprofits and politicians, but also fraud.

00:51:57.000 Someone was fraudulently, or many people were donating in the names of the elderly and people who otherwise did not make these donations to bypass federal election donation limits.

00:52:07.000 You replied a month later with a four page letter describing your fraud prevention policies.

00:52:12.000 And procedures that you had in place at Act Blue.

00:52:16.000 But according to the New York Times, your response to this committee may have been false and misleading.

00:52:23.000 Ms. Wallace Jones, when you signed this letter to me, did you believe that this letter was false and misleading?

00:52:34.000 On the advice of my child, I respectfully decline to answer this question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

00:52:45.000 Ms. Wallace Jones, before you sent us. 0.99

00:52:46.000 Do you see the Asian lady in the back? 1.00

00:52:48.000 Look at this lady right here. 1.00

00:52:50.000 Look at this lady. 1.00

00:52:50.000 Watch her eyes. 1.00

00:52:52.000 Ms. Wallace Jones, before you sent us a letter, did you believe, was it brought to your attention that this letter that you sent me was false and misleading?

00:53:04.000 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

00:53:13.000 Well, I think it's important for everybody here to know that according to the New York Times, You've been aware for quite a while that the response you made was likely false or misleading.

00:53:22.000 Did you ever consider correcting the record for this committee when it was brought to your attention that your letter to me was false and misleading?

00:53:29.000 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully.

00:53:32.000 He's got a stop the line question.

00:53:33.000 Ms. Wallace Jones, what is your name?

00:53:35.000 Pursuant to the attorney client privilege and my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

00:53:40.000 That's pretty interesting.

00:53:41.000 So now you're following the advice of your legal counsel.

00:53:45.000 You know, I'd say this.

00:53:46.000 Normally, I'm very.

00:53:49.000 Adamant that we do not use the invocation of the Fifth Amendment to imply guilt or anything.

00:53:53.000 The issue here is that the story's out.

00:53:58.000 The New York Times has said she lied to Congress.

00:53:58.000 We know.

00:54:02.000 Act Blue was getting foreign money, they were illicit fundraising sources.

00:54:06.000 We know why she's pleading the fifth in this instance.

00:54:08.000 Yeah.

00:54:09.000 Like when people have congressional hearings, they'll usually show up with an entourage so that at least the people directly in frame aren't like distracting and making expressions like that.

00:54:09.000 It's funny.

00:54:18.000 Didn't seem like she thought that far ahead this time around.

00:54:20.000 I mean, look, I think that the considering that there is a story out there that, you know, implicates Act Blue, there's got to be an investigation.

00:54:20.000 No.

00:54:31.000 It's my opinion that Act Blue and by extension, the DNC.

00:54:36.000 Are breaking a whole ton of laws when it comes to funding and when it comes to, I mean, obviously to elections in general.

00:54:42.000 DOJ should investigate and they should throw the book at them if they find anything because that's the only way you stop this stuff, right?

00:54:50.000 You have to make the penalty bad enough so that way people are like, nah, it's not worth it.

00:54:56.000 And considering the amount of money that's out there to not only get people into office, but that can be siphoned off into people's pockets and kickbacks and stuff like that.

00:55:07.000 It's got to be a pretty steep penalty to make that kind of reward seem unappealing.

00:55:12.000 I think it depends on how.

00:55:14.000 If you know, if they know that the money's foreign, because sometimes foreign companies will create a shell to funnel money through to a movement.

00:55:22.000 And so, if they're intentionally taking foreign money, that's hit them hard with the book. 0.99

00:55:26.000 But if it's like they got scammed by foreigners that want to use them as idiots, then. 0.99

00:55:30.000 Well, I mean, that's why they don't know, though. 0.99

00:55:33.000 This is the allegation about what USAID was doing, by the way.

00:55:35.000 If you look at the John Solomon report on the.

00:55:40.000 Intercept around a plot from USAID to do the same thing using funds for Ukraine to be redirected back to the DNC.

00:55:50.000 So, if that happened there, how many other countries and funnels are being used to do that?

00:55:57.000 And it coincides with this massive drop in DNC.

00:56:00.000 I mean, they're going after like Ken Martin and the DNC machine right now for not being able to fundraise like they normally do.

00:56:07.000 What changed?

00:56:08.000 It's like, well, we cut the money funnel for the front end of the.

00:56:12.000 Of the funnel for the laundering.

00:56:14.000 Look at the elections in South America.

00:56:15.000 Yeah.

00:56:16.000 I mean, like every country that has an election, the far right candidate is being elected.

00:56:21.000 And coincidentally, there's no more USAID to funnel money and to.

00:56:27.000 I mean, USAID, I know that they're not like a part of CIA, but I'm sure that they've worked hand in hand, you know, down in.

00:56:34.000 You're a lot more charitable than I am.

00:56:35.000 Well, okay, so be my guest.

00:56:37.000 Please expand on that.

00:56:38.000 I testified for five and a half hours to the Brazilian Senate Foreign Relations Committee on exactly how USAID.

00:56:44.000 Effectively rigged the 2022 election with Bolsonaro there.

00:56:48.000 Here's a great example.

00:56:49.000 USAID tripled the amount of foreign assistance it gave to Brazil the year after Bolsonaro won.

00:56:56.000 Now, this is not because there were some raging wildfires or like some tsunami that hit Brazil.

00:57:01.000 They hated Bolsonaro.

00:57:02.000 They called him the Trump of the tropics.

00:57:04.000 They wanted him out.

00:57:05.000 He was basically doing all these things that messed with George Soros investments in Brazil and a bunch of other big Democrat mega donors.

00:57:15.000 And so they tripled the spend from, like, I think it was 30 million the year before to 90 million just in a year and then flooded the zone.

00:57:23.000 They paid for the media in Brazil.

00:57:25.000 They paid for the disinformation fact checkers people to all, like, go after the Bolsonaro social media accounts.

00:57:31.000 They funded the university system.

00:57:32.000 They funded the unions.

00:57:34.000 I mean, even the Department of Labor, International Affairs, sent $20 million to the unions around Lula there.

00:57:40.000 You look at what happened in El Salvador.

00:57:40.000 And they do that everywhere.

00:57:42.000 When they cut USAID, all the opposition to Bukele just. 0.79

00:57:45.000 Immediately evaporated all the protests.

00:57:48.000 It's like there's nobody because it's not just that, like, people are paid to protest.

00:57:52.000 I'm sure that that happens, and it's almost like paying a homeless person to fill out a vote or something.

00:57:58.000 But what you see is actually a lot of times people get involved in these protests because they're sponsoring organizations.

00:58:04.000 They work for an NGO.

00:58:06.000 That NGO gets money from USAID or from a government grant.

00:58:10.000 And the NGO institutionally announces it's going to boycott.

00:58:14.000 So if you want to get promoted within that NGO or that university or that government bureau, you take to the streets and protest.

00:58:21.000 You occupy federal buildings.

00:58:22.000 You stand in the middle of crosswalks and railways to shut down the economically destabilized country.

00:58:29.000 And what you're seeing now is in country after country after country, Every single place that was propped up by USAID is now going the other way because as soon as you make it a fair fight, who wins?

00:58:39.000 Yeah, you think that this new world because what I think is happening is the new world order has now been supplanted by the new new world order, which is like a Trump led coalition instead of a USAID led coalition.

00:58:48.000 Do you think that that will end up happening?

00:58:50.000 That we will still coalesce around a new world order, but it's just going to be better than the old worse one?

00:58:54.000 We're seeing a realignment of alliances right now.

00:58:58.000 Like, right now, there's a lot of hostilities between the US and the EU on a number of grounds, and this has been exacerbated by.

00:59:05.000 What's happening in Iran, and you're now seeing something that was.

00:59:09.000 I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Marco Rubio, for example, helped.

00:59:14.000 I don't know if he sponsored, but he certainly backed the legislation to NATO proof, to Trump proof NATO.

00:59:22.000 In case Trump, I think this was in 2023, there was like a federal legislation to make NATO kind of unleavable in a rogue unilateral action by the president.

00:59:32.000 You can look this up on Google in two seconds and just to fact check what I'm saying.

00:59:36.000 What's so funny is now you have the Secretary of State and Trump now suggesting what is NATO actually for?

00:59:43.000 All the things that they were afraid of over that.

00:59:47.000 Now we're seeing that because of the conflict with NATO and the EU around Greenland, around Iran policy.

00:59:53.000 And so what you're seeing is this kind of reformation of alliances.

00:59:55.000 And even what's happening right now with this sort of Israel US military fusion thing is there's sort of this move to try to supplant the traditional Five Eyes or the US European relationship.

01:00:07.000 With a closer US Israeli relationship.

01:00:09.000 Obviously, that's happening at a time where a lot of this is being argued and debated domestically.

01:00:16.000 But you're seeing this kind of reformation of alliances where there is this bleed left right.

01:00:21.000 Like Soros is very anti Netanyahu.

01:00:23.000 Soros was very much for the Iran deal.

01:00:26.000 They wanted to profit off of the hydrocarbons and deal making versus the sort of Israeli foreign policy priorities and the Republican Party sort of alliances with that.

01:00:37.000 But you see this.

01:00:40.000 First of all, the State Department has supplanted a lot of the functions that USAID was doing.

01:00:45.000 But we're also seeing a lot of diplomacy, soft diplomacy, being replaced by hard diplomacy.

01:00:52.000 Think about the way you would traditionally go about removing Maduro before what Trump just did.

01:00:57.000 So, what you would traditionally do is you would establish a blob in Venezuela, you would have the National Endowment for Democracy basically create little cell networks within the professional class of doctors, lawyers, Businessmen, agricultural labor workers.

01:01:14.000 You'd have USAID give a bunch of grants to university centers and philanthropics and human rights groups.

01:01:21.000 And then eventually you'd get 100,000 people who were on payroll and who would all stand to profit from a regime change and would all do their part.

01:01:28.000 And they top of that process takes it.

01:01:30.000 But the problem is, Venezuela has kicked out USAID because of a number of fights that they got in, particularly around 2019, 2020.

01:01:39.000 They have put up a firewall around a lot of that.

01:01:41.000 So it's been kind of ineffective.

01:01:43.000 We've had to go to Colombia or Turks and Caicos or Nicaraguan kind of like migrate people in.

01:01:49.000 And even then, it's been slow going.

01:01:52.000 So instead of having a blob, you sort of have like a military mob that is replacing what is traditional.

01:02:00.000 So, in a way, it's more honest and direct, but it's also a very new way of doing things versus what we've been doing for the past 70 years because we created this whole thing.

01:02:16.000 We had the Department of War from 1789 to 1948.

01:02:21.000 We just changed it back.

01:02:23.000 We called it the Department of Defense as a lie.

01:02:26.000 To be consistent with our blob apparatus, that we're not, you know, militarily, but now that we are leading with that, Venezuela, Iran, and it's making the Pentagon, which has a much bigger budget than USAID ever had, have a more dominant role, not just at the military level, but in a diplomatic level, because the military is now threatening to do directly what USAID would typically threaten with economic sanctions, or like what Biden did with the billion dollar USAID loan to fire the Ukraine, you know, Viktor Shokin prosecutor.

01:02:55.000 He said, you know, if you don't get rid of the prosecutor by Time I get on this plane, you're going to be out a billion.

01:03:01.000 Now it's like, okay, if you don't do this, we're sending in SEAL Team Six and we're kidnapping your president.

01:03:08.000 I think one's more effective.

01:03:09.000 It did have a more honest vibe, that whole thing, because Trump was like, we didn't like them and we wanted their oil.

01:03:16.000 And it was like, oh, well, at least you just said that out loud.

01:03:18.000 That's an upgrade.

01:03:19.000 And it was like in our hemisphere.

01:03:21.000 So it was a lot easier, I think, for some Americans to get on board with that sort of thing, even without like priming people and being like, by the way, this is why we need to do it.

01:03:29.000 I think the American people got on board with it because it was so effective.

01:03:34.000 Because if, yeah, well, I mean, yes, it was sick.

01:03:34.000 It was so cool.

01:03:37.000 40 minute in and out.

01:03:37.000 Yes.

01:03:39.000 But the American people will tolerate, even people that say they don't want to see the U.S. foreign policy being exercised with the military, right?

01:03:49.000 They will tolerate strikes where Americans don't die.

01:03:53.000 They will tolerate actions where Americans don't die. 0.61

01:03:56.000 And it's in our backyard. 0.76

01:03:57.000 Yeah. 0.79

01:03:58.000 But I mean, so, Like, just for argument's sake, if the Iran war that's still going on had been two weeks and they actually achieved all their goals, the American people would have been like, sick. 0.68

01:03:58.000 Well, yeah. 0.68

01:04:11.000 Like last summer.

01:04:12.000 Yeah.

01:04:12.000 I mean, well, I mean, last summer, last summer kind of, they didn't really do it, though.

01:04:16.000 It was short, though.

01:04:17.000 It was a little bit easier to.

01:04:19.000 12 day war.

01:04:20.000 Yeah.

01:04:21.000 Like, the American people would be like, okay, cool.

01:04:23.000 It didn't drag on.

01:04:25.000 Americans didn't die.

01:04:26.000 I'm cool with it.

01:04:26.000 I've got, we've got two stories that I don't know which one we should play first.

01:04:30.000 Normally, the way I like to do things is that stories lead to stories.

01:04:33.000 One story is a man who is talking about dead internet theory and he's showing this plague of AI auto replicated videos.

01:04:42.000 We could start with this one and talk about dead internet theory, or there's the Ethan Klein lawsuit, which I believe is intended.

01:04:48.000 The court systems are trying to drive us towards the AI dead internet apocalypse.

01:04:51.000 Which should we start with?

01:04:53.000 Dead internet theory is here, or Ethan Klein's got a lawsuit which is going to contribute to the dead internet and the psychosis of the American people?

01:05:00.000 I think we should start with dead internet theory as a whole.

01:05:02.000 So maybe you can explain.

01:05:04.000 All right.

01:05:05.000 This is from Dylan Talks Horror.

01:05:05.000 I saw this video.

01:05:08.000 Shout out to Dylan Talks Horror.

01:05:09.000 He's a small, small little Instagrammer.

01:05:11.000 But this video freaked me the F out.

01:05:15.000 And here's the thing I want to say this.

01:05:18.000 Maybe he faked this video.

01:05:21.000 I have not seen something so egregious as this is about to show us.

01:05:25.000 However, today I made a video where I pulled 22 links off of Instagram of the exact same joke over and over and over again.

01:05:36.000 It's a video where people will, they're like, Me when I'm 30, but I forget that I'm not 18 anymore.

01:05:42.000 They walk down the stairs, jump the last two stairs, and then the next scene is them transparent as a ghost, and they turn around and see their dead body.

01:05:48.000 I have probably seen, in all seriousness, I'm not going to exaggerate.

01:05:51.000 I said yesterday 5,000.

01:05:52.000 It's actually, the number's probably closer to maybe like 175 or 200 identical videos.

01:05:58.000 Now, I understand what memes are, but memes are iterations on.

01:06:02.000 So I highlighted today there's a video where a guy's doing chin ups, and he says, when you try to go for that extra chin up, and then he turns into a ghost and dies, that's a meme iterating off of a joke.

01:06:12.000 A trend sort of thing.

01:06:13.000 Exactly.

01:06:14.000 Everybody just making the exact same videos over and over again is you being programmed by the AI to be a single cell in a multicellular organism.

01:06:25.000 Watch what this guy is showing.

01:06:27.000 And I hope this is.

01:06:32.000 Again, the internet could be fake, right?

01:06:33.000 But check this out.

01:06:36.000 We've got to unmute it. 1.00

01:06:37.000 Because that shit is so fucking real. 1.00

01:06:39.000 And it's just, it's insane. 1.00

01:06:41.000 So this is a video.

01:06:42.000 It's about the woman who walked into the water with the two dead fish.

01:06:46.000 But just watch this. 0.99

01:06:47.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.98

01:06:49.000 Y'all, as soon as I seen the video of the woman holding the two fish walking into the water, the first thing that came to my mind was the Yamayak. 0.99

01:07:00.000 So, for those that are just listening, what he's doing is he's scrolling through reels and it's the exact same voiceover with a bunch of different videos.

01:07:15.000 Now, the allegation is it's all AI generated.

01:07:18.000 She turns around.

01:07:19.000 She's. 0.99

01:07:20.000 Two dead fish in her.

01:07:23.000 As soon as I seen the video of the woman holding the two fish walking into the water, the first thing that came to my mind was.

01:07:30.000 As soon as I seen the video of the woman holding a two fish walking into the water, the first thing that came to my mind was the Yemayah.

01:07:36.000 In addition, as soon as I seen the video of the woman holding a two fish walking into the water, the first thing that.

01:07:43.000 There was a video?

01:07:44.000 The woman.

01:07:47.000 So there's currently a video that's going viral.

01:07:50.000 So there's currently a video that's going viral.

01:07:53.000 And if you think the dead internet theory.

01:07:56.000 So then he shows other videos.

01:07:57.000 Now, people are saying in the chat, what people do is they rip the video and then lip sync the audio.

01:08:03.000 To steal the content.

01:08:05.000 So, one of two things is happening, and I think actually probably both.

01:08:09.000 What he's arguing is that it's like AI, they're fake generating these people.

01:08:14.000 They're generating people talking and putting them over these videos because the internet is fake.

01:08:18.000 I want to pull up another story for you guys from NBC.

01:08:22.000 And this one we've known about for some time, but now it's official.

01:08:26.000 Bot web traffic has overtaken human web traffic data shows.

01:08:30.000 Cloudflare says 57.4% of requests are now automated bot requests, while 42.6% are human generated.

01:08:38.000 So, the reason why I want to highlight this is that I made a video today.

01:08:41.000 I snapped.

01:08:41.000 I just lost it.

01:08:42.000 I've been talking about how I'm sick of seeing the same video over and over and over again.

01:08:46.000 People, random people, are being programmed by social media to become zombies.

01:08:52.000 So, yesterday after the show ends, I go home, I make my beam dream.

01:08:56.000 No joke, I drink it every single night.

01:08:58.000 And they're not even paying me to say that.

01:08:59.000 Not this time, at least.

01:09:00.000 And I got my phone, and I'm on Instagram, and I swipe, and there it is again.

01:09:04.000 There it is again.

01:09:05.000 A guy jumping off a counter, being like, me being 40, but forgetting I'm not 18 anymore.

01:09:10.000 And then, He turns transparent, turns around, and there's a body.

01:09:13.000 And I was about to hit block, and I went, I'm going to save the link.

01:09:17.000 So I copied the link, saved it in Arturo Communications, make a list.

01:09:21.000 Scrolled, got another one, saved it.

01:09:23.000 Scrolled, got another one, saved it.

01:09:25.000 I got around probably 50 or so of these videos back to back, almost nonstop.

01:09:31.000 And I just have this huge list of all the links where they are functionally identical videos. 0.99

01:09:37.000 Nikita Beer is just fucking with you, man. 0.99

01:09:39.000 What's up? 1.00

01:09:40.000 I said, Nikita Beer is just fucking with you. 1.00

01:09:41.000 It was Instagram. 1.00

01:09:42.000 Okay.

01:09:42.000 So what's happening is, These people, influencers, don't know what to do with their lives.

01:09:48.000 They've got no functional training.

01:09:49.000 They want to be influencers.

01:09:51.000 What's the technique?

01:09:52.000 Find a viral video, remake it.

01:09:54.000 What's happening is Instagram is rewarding these specific repetitions.

01:10:00.000 So human beings are basically lining up like lemmings and just imitating each other, be it lip syncing, AI generated, or otherwise.

01:10:08.000 The internet is entirely fake. 0.98

01:10:11.000 You watch a joke video on Instagram, I guarantee you it's a knockoff or it's AI.

01:10:16.000 Do you think you're saving the links to all of those videos or like interacting with the post makes the feed?

01:10:21.000 Saving the link.

01:10:22.000 Tells Instagram to show me more of the same.

01:10:24.000 So your feed's just the same thing over again?

01:10:27.000 It is.

01:10:28.000 And that's, but that was intentional.

01:10:30.000 Right. 0.99

01:10:30.000 So, but like, so the other day I'm scrolling and I see this stupid joke. 0.99

01:10:35.000 And like the first time I saw it, I laughed. 0.96

01:10:37.000 There's another one where it says, there's text and it goes, only getting up three hours of sleep doesn't faze me.

01:10:44.000 And then they'll like throw a beach ball and giggle.

01:10:47.000 And then they'll hit someone in the head with it. 0.80

01:10:49.000 And then it'll change to the guy on the ground dead.

01:10:51.000 And the beach ball will actually be like a can of propane or something.

01:10:55.000 And that's the.

01:10:56.000 Identical videos over.

01:10:58.000 So I'm scrolling and I see a guy doing, you know, snowboard tricks.

01:11:02.000 I scroll, I see a poker hand with Negrano.

01:11:04.000 I scroll, there's the joke.

01:11:06.000 Eh, I scroll past it.

01:11:06.000 I don't even stop to watch it.

01:11:08.000 Then there's a guy bowling and he hits a strike and I'm like, oh, that was cool.

01:11:10.000 Then I scroll, ping pong again.

01:11:12.000 I hate ping pong.

01:11:13.000 I keep saying, stop sending me ping pong, but it won't stop.

01:11:16.000 I scroll past it.

01:11:17.000 There's the joke again.

01:11:18.000 Then I put, not interested.

01:11:20.000 Then I scroll, see a few videos.

01:11:22.000 A few minutes later, there's the joke again.

01:11:24.000 So then I put, this is making me uncomfortable.

01:11:26.000 So then finally, last night when I see it, I go, I'm going to save the link.

01:11:31.000 I'm going to save it.

01:11:32.000 Saving the link, they go, let's go.

01:11:35.000 And they just literally, I swipe up, there it is.

01:11:37.000 I swipe up, there it is.

01:11:38.000 It was about 50 back to back to back of the same exact videos over and over again.

01:11:43.000 So, like, the algorithm is more sensitive to a positive interaction with the post.

01:11:47.000 But if you say you're not interested, it will ignore.

01:11:50.000 I can't tell you, like, no means here.

01:11:50.000 Yeah.

01:11:52.000 Every single time I see ping pong, I put, this makes me uncomfortable.

01:11:55.000 It won't stop sending me ping pong.

01:11:58.000 Because I think it's going like he's interacting with it.

01:12:00.000 Interesting.

01:12:01.000 Yeah.

01:12:01.000 Bizarre.

01:12:02.000 Yep.

01:12:03.000 My feed is perfect.

01:12:04.000 There's a lot of reasons to get rid of meta properties.

01:12:09.000 But it's not that it's TikTok.

01:12:10.000 These videos are TikTok.

01:12:12.000 It's all of these platforms.

01:12:13.000 What I think is happening is humans, I want to know what you think about this because I think this is deep state related.

01:12:22.000 I believe that the establishment wants to go back to an era where they had only a few finite media mechanisms.

01:12:29.000 There were 10 channels.

01:12:30.000 Gamekeeper model.

01:12:31.000 Exactly.

01:12:32.000 When this podcast era emerged, it shocked them and it boosted Trump and they hated Trump.

01:12:37.000 So, my presumption, my hypothesis would be the powers that be said, guys, when we allowed people to do their own media through social media, they propped up Trump.

01:12:47.000 That was bad for us.

01:12:49.000 How do we bring this back to where there's only a few channels?

01:12:53.000 Make it so that the only thing that gets promoted is the exact same joke.

01:12:56.000 If you make content that is not in line with what we want, it doesn't go viral.

01:13:01.000 So, a lot of people have noticed on X, for instance, their posts don't get traction anymore because of the new algorithm.

01:13:06.000 It is all narrowly defined.

01:13:09.000 And I believe the end result of all of this is the elimination of intellectual property.

01:13:14.000 These jokes can't be copyrighted.

01:13:16.000 It's just replicated over and over again.

01:13:17.000 And now no one can claim ownership over the original video because it's just copy of a copy of a copy.

01:13:23.000 Actually, and I don't know if you can copyright jokes.

01:13:25.000 You might be able to.

01:13:26.000 I don't think so, though.

01:13:28.000 I believe that where we're going to end up is the big companies will be the only ones with the means to control some semblance of intellectual property.

01:13:35.000 But.

01:13:36.000 They want AI.

01:13:38.000 Disney is going to have AI generated movies and they won't care because they will control those platforms.

01:13:44.000 Meanwhile, the social media platforms won't allow for shows like this or for independent thought.

01:13:48.000 They're going to put everybody algorithmically into a rigid line so they all make the same 10 videos over and over again.

01:13:54.000 Thanks.

01:13:55.000 So, I mean, there are a couple of things maybe to disambiguate.

01:13:58.000 So, when you pulled up that statistic showing that bot requests had overtaken the automated bots.

01:14:07.000 So, does that include like when ChatGPT pulls?

01:14:10.000 Because, like, I'll give you an example.

01:14:12.000 So, I use AI, it's completely replaced Google for me.

01:14:16.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:14:17.000 I'll use like Grok, ChatGPT.

01:14:19.000 When I'm doing like deep research stuff, I'll often use the.

01:14:22.000 The deep research function for ChatGPT, where it will sit on a question I ask for 49 minutes.

01:14:30.000 And it will pull literally 49 minutes and will just pull tens of thousands of links.

01:14:37.000 I'll make it a deep request and it will just go through tens of thousands of links in that.

01:14:44.000 The amount that would take me weeks to manually click, it'll do that in an hour.

01:14:50.000 Yes, but there's something called the recitation problem.

01:14:53.000 And I think, again, this falls into the.

01:14:56.000 We must keep everybody in a rigid media mechanism.

01:15:00.000 They can't think outside the box.

01:15:01.000 The recitation problem is a noted issue that all of these LLMs will default to responses that are the majority not correct.

01:15:09.000 So if people are, if everybody is wrong about something, let's say everybody believes that two plus two equals five, but academics go, no, no, no, it's two plus two equals four.

01:15:19.000 The LLMs will tell you it's five.

01:15:21.000 I guess the consensus of academics.

01:15:22.000 They default to consensus because LLMs operate on probability.

01:15:26.000 So I brought this up a few weeks ago.

01:15:30.000 One of the issues is actually, I'm going to ask you a quick question because I love the subject.

01:15:34.000 So I'm going to ask everybody who already heard me ask this question not to answer.

01:15:37.000 It's just for the two of you.

01:15:39.000 So you go into a casino and you're looking around.

01:15:43.000 You want to figure out what to gamble on and you see a roulette table.

01:15:46.000 So you decide to go over there and sit down, some seats open.

01:15:47.000 There's a guy smoking, dealer looks a little messy, a little tired or whatever.

01:15:50.000 But let's play some roulette, right?

01:15:52.000 You familiar?

01:15:52.000 You know what roulette is?

01:15:54.000 I don't.

01:15:54.000 The wheel with black and red.

01:15:55.000 I've never gambled.

01:15:56.000 You throw the ball and it spins.

01:15:57.000 Okay.

01:15:58.000 So you sit down, you said, I'm going to wait a little bit to see. 0.52

01:16:02.000 How the balls landed, right? 0.89

01:16:04.000 I want to.

01:16:04.000 So you look at the screen, you see in the last 30 spins, 17 have come up red.

01:16:10.000 You decide, I'm going to bet on a color.

01:16:12.000 Which color is the smarter bet?

01:16:16.000 Okay.

01:16:17.000 I mean, I'll go first.

01:16:19.000 Yeah.

01:16:20.000 I mean, I feel like it's sort of the same hypothetical as if someone asked me, like, flip a coin, heads or tails.

01:16:28.000 The last 17 were heads.

01:16:31.000 Ordinarily, I would think there's a 50 50 chance.

01:16:34.000 I'm agnostic because it's like if it was a normal coin and it was not a rigged coin, then I would assume a 50 50 chance.

01:16:42.000 And it doesn't matter if you pick red or blue or whatever tails.

01:16:46.000 But yeah, red or black, thanks.

01:16:49.000 But in this case, like if I saw 17 in a row, I would.

01:16:53.000 Not in a row, just 17 of 30.

01:16:54.000 Oh, 17 of 36%.

01:16:57.000 I mean, that's pretty well within the margin of.

01:17:05.000 If it was a truly, if it was 29 out of 30, I would say, well, there's maybe this is a weighted roulette table.

01:17:12.000 Maybe there's, you know, maybe there's a magnet underneath.

01:17:15.000 What do you bet on?

01:17:16.000 I mean, I would go with the one that is slightly more favored just because there might be some, not because I think it's going to even out over time, but in which case you go black, but because if there is something that is, it could be that there's some physical defect or some. 0.68

01:17:38.000 Proclivity of the dealer or whoever to do it slightly more.

01:17:42.000 Considering you're not super familiar with roulette, do you agree or disagree?

01:17:46.000 I mean, I don't know if you agree.

01:17:47.000 I'm kind of impulsive though.

01:17:47.000 Sounds right.

01:17:47.000 I don't know.

01:17:48.000 Like, I will just do the opposite thing and something. 1.00

01:17:52.000 You're like, fuck this system. 1.00

01:17:52.000 The system's red. 1.00

01:17:53.000 I'm going black. 1.00

01:17:54.000 Mike's correct. 0.99

01:17:55.000 And so traditionally, people used to say if red's coming up too much, black must be due because it's supposed to average out over time.

01:18:05.000 But that's incorrect.

01:18:06.000 That's called the gambler's fallacy.

01:18:07.000 What ends up happening is everybody learns the gambler's fallacy and then confidently says it actually doesn't matter what you bet on because everything, the odds are equal.

01:18:16.000 And that's called the mathematician's fallacy.

01:18:18.000 The presumption that a physical system operated by a human operates in an abstract mathematics space.

01:18:23.000 If you ask any large language model this question, it will give you the wrong answer.

01:18:27.000 Oh, it goes black?

01:18:28.000 No, it says neither. 0.99

01:18:29.000 It doesn't matter.

01:18:30.000 Oh, it assumes it's like assuming a perfect competition or something in a market.

01:18:36.000 So I did an experiment with these LLMs where I actually prompted them you walk into a physical casino with a tired dealer.

01:18:44.000 I put those prompts before you in the question intentionally.

01:18:46.000 Casinos go to great lengths to deal with.

01:18:49.000 Imbalanced tables, imperfections, and tired dealers, or what they call dealer signature.

01:18:55.000 Every single casino knows this.

01:18:56.000 It's a part of their standard training.

01:18:58.000 They use a Kirby.

01:18:59.000 What's up?

01:19:00.000 They use a Kirby for the signature.

01:19:01.000 They do, yeah, yeah.

01:19:02.000 So dealer signature means there are dealers, without realizing it, they'll wait for the zero to come around and spin every time the zero hits their hand, not even thinking.

01:19:12.000 And they spin the exact same way every time.

01:19:13.000 So the ball keeps landing in the same quadrant of numbers.

01:19:17.000 Pro gamblers know this.

01:19:18.000 They look for signatures.

01:19:19.000 And if you see a signature on the board, you play that game because you're playing to an advantage.

01:19:23.000 Pit bosses know this, so they'll go to the dealer and say, Change your spin.

01:19:26.000 Or they'll pull the croupier, they call him, they'll pull him off.

01:19:30.000 But LLMs don't know this.

01:19:32.000 And there's an interesting thing here pro gamblers are not experts.

01:19:36.000 So, despite the fact that professional gamblers have written about this extensively, the LLMs will disregard their expertise as degenerate.

01:19:44.000 Pit bosses and casinos will never explain how to get an advantage play against a casino, so they won't mention it at all.

01:19:50.000 Mathematicians and academics will say, The numbers are statistically the same, so it doesn't matter what you bet on.

01:19:55.000 Right.

01:19:56.000 Because our models are based on that.

01:19:57.000 So, like, it has, yeah.

01:20:00.000 So, when you go to any AI, ChatGPT or otherwise, I guarantee you, is probably giving you the wrong answer.

01:20:07.000 In fact, every day, because I agree with you, I largely don't use Google anymore.

01:20:12.000 And even Google now is an AI generated response for the most part.

01:20:15.000 Most of the time, it's wrong.

01:20:17.000 So, for instance, I was doing research on the California elections today, and I asked it about elections where an individual pulls ahead in this manner, and it said there are no instances where this has ever occurred.

01:20:28.000 I was like, that's interesting.

01:20:29.000 Because I believe it was the Washington Times found something interesting.

01:20:32.000 I then said, What about the blue wave in 2018?

01:20:34.000 And it went, You are correct.

01:20:36.000 This actually happens all the time in California.

01:20:38.000 The first answer was fake.

01:20:39.000 And only because I had researched this previously did I catch that mistake. 0.99

01:20:42.000 Yeah, they're like shit testing you in a way.

01:20:45.000 It's like, you know, but also it's helpful to know things like that, though, Tim, because what I find too, as I'm this has now become the dominant way that I do research and just interact with the search interface of the internet, is like knowing the bias of the AI is helpful to like. 0.98

01:21:03.000 Outsmart it in getting what you want, knowing the various things that will try to throw up.

01:21:09.000 Like, if I'm asking a spicy question on a controversial topic, I will never say it's me because I believe this.

01:21:15.000 I will say I have a friend who I'm about to be in a debate in.

01:21:18.000 He's a smart friend and he's going to really come at me with the best evidence he can find.

01:21:24.000 Tell me what he's going to say to me on this.

01:21:27.000 That way, it'll spit out like evidence that I know it would withhold from me if the AI thought I believed it.

01:21:32.000 Yeah, you have to know how to prompt an AI.

01:21:35.000 And most people don't.

01:21:36.000 Yeah, most people think people who use AI are going to get duped, and it's going to make everyone a little bit.

01:21:42.000 I mean, I'm personally very pro AI, and I think that the LLMs or the models are going to remedy for a lot of the errors.

01:21:42.000 Yeah.

01:21:53.000 I don't think they're going to get rid of bias.

01:21:55.000 It's still going to be biased depending on which model you're using and how they trained it.

01:21:59.000 But I'm of the opinion that probably in the next six to 12 months, the errors from AI are going to drastically decline.

01:22:12.000 And AI video is getting so shockingly good, it's mind blowing.

01:22:16.000 I keep calling for it.

01:22:16.000 Yeah.

01:22:18.000 It's bad.

01:22:19.000 There are man on the street videos that are AI that I would guarantee maybe 60% of the population would not be able to tell were AI.

01:22:26.000 It's literally like a guy standing there holding the little DJI, and he's like, When you go on a first date, do you think the guy should pay or do you want to pay? 0.51

01:22:33.000 And the woman goes, Guy should totally always pay.

01:22:35.000 And it looks totally normal, and you can't tell it's AI.

01:22:38.000 It's wild.

01:22:39.000 I saw a video of like 20 bunnies jumping on a trampoline, and I was like, Nice.

01:22:43.000 And then I looked at it, I was like, Wait, it's not real.

01:22:47.000 A lot of times you have to know the context of the video.

01:22:50.000 You can tell by what they're saying more than what you're looking at.

01:22:54.000 If it's something where topics are intending to inflame people or stuff like that, a lot of times you can be like, ah, you know.

01:23:01.000 Most people really hate that.

01:23:03.000 And I totally understand.

01:23:04.000 I, in a way, hate, oh, you got me that feeling.

01:23:08.000 But what I like about what's happening with the realistic AI video is it's causing everyone to collectively question, like, okay, I just saw this.

01:23:18.000 It looks super real.

01:23:19.000 Is it actually real?

01:23:20.000 And everybody is having that experience.

01:23:22.000 And so it's kind of a corollary to what we all went through, kind of as like in the conservative branch of politics in 2016, when it's like you see something in the news and you're like, okay, CNN reported this.

01:23:34.000 Yeah.

01:23:35.000 And like, I'm supposed to believe CNN, right?

01:23:36.000 But is this really true?

01:23:38.000 And so it caused like this massive critical thinking spike.

01:23:41.000 I disagree.

01:23:42.000 You disagree?

01:23:43.000 Turning Point put out a clip of Charlie literally saying, if anything happens to me, I appoint Erica Kirk.

01:23:48.000 She's great. 0.65

01:23:49.000 She'll do a great job.

01:23:50.000 And the anti Kirk lunatics immediately said that was AI.

01:23:53.000 Yeah.

01:23:54.000 So it's, it's, it's, I half agree.

01:23:58.000 A lot of people have started to question, but a lot of people are now rejecting real evidence as AI.

01:24:04.000 To this point, Turning Point has long maintained.

01:24:07.000 There is a video of Charlie Kirk, I think he's in Aspen, at a fundraiser where he literally says, It was because someone said something like a donor said something about, We give this money, what happens to you?

01:24:17.000 He says, If anything happens to me, I appoint Erica to run Turning Point.

01:24:20.000 She'll do a great job.

01:24:21.000 He was selling these people.

01:24:24.000 Apparently, even Candace Owens has now said, Oh, I've known this video has always existed, despite the fact she's long maintained it didn't.

01:24:29.000 Yeah.

01:24:30.000 So finally, Turning Point sits on it for as long as they can.

01:24:33.000 And I think the reason they did was intentionally to get as many people to lie and push it on as possible, then fire off this video being like, there it is, it's true.

01:24:41.000 The immediate response is, that's an AI video.

01:24:44.000 Yeah.

01:24:44.000 They just don't want to believe it.

01:24:46.000 Trump could be accused of punching a little kid, and then a video will come out of Trump patting him on the head, and then someone will make an AI video of him punching the kid, and everyone who hates Trump will say the punch is real, and everybody who likes Trump will say the pat is real. 0.56

01:24:57.000 And I love the boomers, but like they are especially susceptible to this sort of thing.

01:25:02.000 I mean, especially like with political campaigns, this is a huge conversation that I'm sure many of you guys are tapped into.

01:25:07.000 Like, are AI political ads even allowed?

01:25:09.000 Like, when the Massey race was going on, it was incessant.

01:25:12.000 All of these, you know, borderline defamatory ads being run against this candidate.

01:25:18.000 It's interesting.

01:25:19.000 And I think it's actually an important conversation because it's like, yeah, this could convince realistically a substantial portion of people to the extent they could sway an election.

01:25:27.000 I don't know how I feel about it, but yeah, it's fascinating.

01:25:29.000 Because California, when, you know, because the Democrats were in this real dilemma where they just seemed profoundly uncool and they were being kind of out competed in the vibe competition in 2024.

01:25:44.000 And I remember California tried to pass this law against any sort of like AI generated ads.

01:25:49.000 And it was, I think it was the legislation was basically born out of like AI memes, like making fun of Newsome and the like.

01:25:57.000 And it was, but in that case, it was very clear that these were satires, very clear it was AI.

01:26:02.000 It was like, You know, a dog parachuting out of a helicopter and pooping on, like, you know, Newsome's head or something.

01:26:09.000 But when it does, like, seriously, when it's intended to deceive, when it's intended to make it look, I mean, I think eventually where you're going to get to is a place where the metadata and some sort of certification is, like, probably going to become best practice.

01:26:25.000 And if you don't have it, like, the metadata certified, like, and it's in a polarized topic or a controversial thing, then.

01:26:35.000 You will default to say, no, this has been certified by X.

01:26:38.000 And I don't know if they're going to try to stand up a regulatory committee and then the whole thing will become like a political control mechanism for control of the truth.

01:26:44.000 But it'll probably land on that somewhere in that area as this happens in so many different contexts and there becomes like a real multi billion dollar industry of PR firms who can just instantly generate crisis management firms.

01:27:04.000 Oh, you said ExxonMobil is responsible for this oil spill?

01:27:07.000 Well, we have a video of.

01:27:10.000 This Trump supporter is doing it actually.

01:27:12.000 And it's, I mean, like, you could come up with a million scenarios like this where you could just muddy the waters.

01:27:17.000 You could tell, like, you know, because the thing is, like, video is very psychologically shocking on people.

01:27:24.000 And when you see something with your own eyes, like, you want to do a false flag and blame another country for a terrorist attack.

01:27:30.000 And so you say 12 people were killed in country X and look at this gory video, then this is, I actually struggled with this in law school.

01:27:38.000 When I remember in criminal procedure, when I learned for the first time, About this rule that basically, if you have like really shocking, grotesque evidence that will psychologically make the jury just want to drive them basically to bloodlust to make them want to convict somebody,

01:27:57.000 anybody, just to compensate for this horrible thing, then you can actually, as defense counsel for the defendant who's on charges for the crime, motion to not have damning, gory evidence entered into the record just because it would prejudice the jury.

01:28:16.000 To want to convict just because even if the rest, even if the jury, like if they're on the fence and they think he's probably innocent, but damn, that video is like, if he did that, if he did it just like it showed in that video, like that nothing else matters.

01:28:33.000 And so that's like a very real effect in jury trials.

01:28:38.000 Like it's a very real effect in propaganda.

01:28:41.000 Yeah.

01:28:43.000 The future of AI, especially AI video, I think to your point, like it's going to be really, really, really difficult to.

01:28:52.000 To be able to parse the truth.

01:28:53.000 And I think the result of that is you're going to have people that are far more skeptical of everything.

01:28:58.000 I mean, even now you see people, specifically, I think because of the BS from COVID that happened during COVID and general mistrust of the media and stuff, people are now defaulting to whatever they see if it's not from individual sources they trust, which are in no way guaranteed to be more reliable than any other source.

01:29:18.000 But they basically just say the default position is I don't believe it.

01:29:22.000 And you're just going to have a society of skeptical people, and you're going to end up with, because of that kind of skepticism, you're going to have people that, what's the word I'm looking for?

01:29:35.000 People that just become dejected and disconnected from society because they're like, well, I don't believe anything.

01:29:42.000 You know, there's going to be.

01:29:43.000 But isn't that wisdom?

01:29:44.000 I mean, don't, I don't know if you guys had grandparents in your 80s or 90s who just skeptical, man.

01:29:50.000 My pop, so like skeptical of everything.

01:29:50.000 I don't know.

01:29:53.000 Like, I feel like every old man who's like 90 years old is just like default skeptical. 0.95

01:29:59.000 It doesn't mean they don't believe things or whatnot, but like, they're, it's like, oh, I've seen enough shit in my day. 0.92

01:30:04.000 And I could, like, there is a certain wisdom in that. 0.63

01:30:08.000 I mean, when you see how easily sheep are led when they don't have that critical thing on, doesn't mean even skeptical as you are, everyone's got priors and everyone can be misled or whatever.

01:30:19.000 But I actually, I feel a lot smarter reading the news now than I did 10, 20 years ago, especially when, you know, you've, When you grow up with faith, that, I mean, you look at these like boomer types who just, if they see it on Fox News, if they see it, you know, like, like that, there's nobody in Gen Z who thinks that way.

01:30:38.000 They're critical of that.

01:30:39.000 And I think that's healthy.

01:30:41.000 I think the skepticism is healthy, but I think the cynicism that I'm thinking that comes along with it is unhealthy.

01:30:46.000 Yeah.

01:30:47.000 Skepticism is like, I don't believe it.

01:30:48.000 Cynicism is, I think it's untrue for sure.

01:30:51.000 And then nihilism is the next phase, which is like, I think it's all fake.

01:30:55.000 Yeah.

01:30:55.000 I mean, all that sloth, it's a sin.

01:30:57.000 That kind of, find yourself there.

01:30:58.000 That kind of, the cynicism.

01:31:00.000 Is, I think, something that actually will harm society.

01:31:03.000 So I want to, we got to jump to this next story, and we'll start with this one.

01:31:06.000 Ethan Klein is suing iDubbbz for defamation over alleged molester remarks.

01:31:11.000 Creator plans to fight back.

01:31:13.000 Now, I don't really care all that much about their defamation case.

01:31:17.000 You know, I don't know much about it, whether there's merit or not.

01:31:19.000 I have no real comments on it.

01:31:21.000 But Ethan Klein, the reason I bring the story up is that it's the latest iteration in his ongoing lawsuits against many other creators, which brings us back to this one, which has probably the most significant potential.

01:31:32.000 In copyright law.

01:31:34.000 And I believe the big tech companies and the AI companies are hoping Ethan Klein loses.

01:31:42.000 So we've got this from Copyright Daily.

01:31:44.000 Judges first take favors denims, but will it survive the recut?

01:31:48.000 The story goes like this Ethan Klein produced a feature length documentary criticizing Hassan Piker.

01:31:52.000 Several streamers, including one woman who goes by Denims, watched the entirety of the feature length film while providing criticism to it periodically.

01:32:01.000 He sued her, saying that you can't just take the full body of work.

01:32:06.000 And claim it's fair use.

01:32:08.000 Right now, in the preliminary ruling, he has lost.

01:32:13.000 And the judge is basically saying he needs to issue a response because Denim's does have a fair use claim.

01:32:18.000 In fact, citing Ethan Klein's own previous lawsuit, what is it, Josenzadeh v. Klein, saying that this is very obvious criticism.

01:32:28.000 The judge made several points, including nobody who's watching Denim's, who is critical of Ethan Klein, is going to go to his channel to watch what he has to say.

01:32:34.000 Therefore, that shows this is fair use.

01:32:39.000 Ethan Klein is at risk of losing this case.

01:32:41.000 Now, he did force a settlement with another live streamer who played the video in its entirety.

01:32:47.000 She issued an apology.

01:32:48.000 It was pretty wild.

01:32:50.000 Now, I believe on the merits, Ethan Klein is wrong in this case.

01:32:55.000 However, I think it's important that people understand the end result of copyright law.

01:32:59.000 Should he lose, it's just one grain of sand in the avalanche.

01:33:03.000 But understand what this means.

01:33:05.000 If the judge wins and this goes beyond court, if it gets appealed, if it becomes precedent, the argument is an individual who is critical of a piece of content, who seeks to comment on it, can use the content in its entirety regardless of infringement on that market.

01:33:23.000 So I'll give you an example.

01:33:25.000 I have a video where I comment on a 20 minute long video.

01:33:28.000 It's a podcast about culture and the importance of traditional values.

01:33:31.000 And I use for only about 20 seconds a clip from Star Trek The Next Generation to exemplify the point I made about how in the early 90s culture was very different. 0.96

01:33:40.000 And it's an amazing scene where Captain Picard is confronted by a Romulan. 0.97

01:33:48.000 Ignore all the Star Trek stuff. 1.00

01:33:49.000 The captain of a warship is in communication with the captain of another warship.

01:33:54.000 And he's got the bad guys have two ships pointed at him, arms ready.

01:33:59.000 And he says, surrender now, and your crew will be prisoners of war.

01:34:04.000 And then all of a sudden, allies of Captain Picard appear and shocking his enemy.

01:34:11.000 And he says, what will it be?

01:34:12.000 Shall we die together?

01:34:13.000 And it's a brilliant line about strength and leadership.

01:34:16.000 I got this video flagged, copyright strike, cannot monetize it.

01:34:20.000 For 20 seconds?

01:34:21.000 For the simple 20 seconds out of a 20 minute long video.

01:34:24.000 I cannot make money on the entirety of the video for using a cultural example of the 90s that I believe is fair use.

01:34:31.000 The argument, so I appealed it.

01:34:34.000 They said no.

01:34:35.000 I consulted with legal counsel and they said the issue is that Paramount licenses these short clips intentionally.

01:34:43.000 For videos like yours to make these references to the show in the 90s.

01:34:48.000 By you claiming fair use, the first thing you need to understand is fair use is copyright infringement, but you are claiming an exemption.

01:34:55.000 Their argument in rebuttal is that you've commented on the era and the content, but we sell these clips for a license fee for which you are now infringing on our market.

01:35:07.000 Ethan Klein produced an hour and 40 minute long video.

01:35:09.000 That's expensive and hard to do.

01:35:12.000 If he loses, We are moving towards a wiping out of all intellectual property.

01:35:19.000 If the argument could then be, I made a YouTube channel titled I Hate Marvel, and I played Avengers Doomsday when it comes out on video to criticize the storytelling, and I play the movie in its entirety periodically making comments on the video.

01:35:35.000 Now, the argument right now is that, well, I mean, Marvel Studios, Disney, they've got lawyers to sue you to oblivion.

01:35:43.000 You'd never win.

01:35:44.000 But that is not the same as whether or not precedent gets set.

01:35:48.000 As it goes with law, it starts with a light thing that no one thinks is possible and then turns into mandate.

01:35:54.000 For example, in New York, when they banned public drinking, there is a city councilman who was quoted as saying something the effect of, let it be said, this will never be construed to say that a man can't enjoy a beer during his lunch while at work.

01:36:08.000 Sure enough, in New York today, if you sit in a bench and crack a beer, you're getting a ticket.

01:36:13.000 So the issue then becomes I believe the AI companies, I'm sorry, I'm going to pause.

01:36:19.000 It is a fact.

01:36:20.000 Jack Dorsey, Elon, and others have called for the abolition of intellectual property.

01:36:24.000 They want their AI models to be able to use and reproduce any and every creative work.

01:36:32.000 So they have publicly stated this.

01:36:34.000 I believe that this is the intended condition for the big tech transhumanist AI people.

01:36:40.000 They want a world where you will not have any intellectual property rights.

01:36:46.000 So what this means is, and again, I want to stress, Ethan Klein is wrong to sue because this is known.

01:36:52.000 Particularly with Hughes v. Benjamin, Akilah Hughes suing Carla Benjamin, that you have a right to do this commentary.

01:36:58.000 But no one has yet tested feature length criticism.

01:37:02.000 And that's where we're at now.

01:37:03.000 The next step, of course, is me saying I can use Star Trek for 20 seconds.

01:37:08.000 The end result, of course, is I want to criticize the political messaging in Starfleet Academy, for instance.

01:37:15.000 So I will play the entire show in its full entirety, hour long episodes, to point out why it's bad.

01:37:22.000 And it is not in any way different to the lawsuit that Ethan Klein has filed against her, where he is losing.

01:37:28.000 In which case, if Paramount says you can't play our full episodes, we hate your show.

01:37:34.000 You know we hate your show.

01:37:35.000 My audience doesn't want to watch your show, and they're only watching so that I can rag on it.

01:37:39.000 That would clear me the same way that Ethan Klein has lost a way Denim's has been cleared.

01:37:45.000 So we were getting into a little bit before the show on this, and admittedly, I don't think I've cracked open an intellectual property thing since the bar exam 20 years ago or whatever.

01:37:45.000 Yeah.

01:37:56.000 So this is not like a field that I know anything beyond the lay about.

01:38:01.000 But I have a question because when you mention that thing about, okay, well, Paramount licenses it, and when you think about like a Marvel movie, that is.

01:38:09.000 Like, you get a ticket to watch that movie, or you pay, you know, you pay Amazon to get a license, and Amazon kicks some of the money back for that.

01:38:21.000 Or, and so with the Ethan Klein video, I guess, and this is an open question to you because I think you've just studied this more than me.

01:38:30.000 Does the fact that that hour and 40 minute documentary he made, does the fact that it's freely available on YouTube and that he does not earn money?

01:38:41.000 In the form of a license fee, impact the precedent being set.

01:38:44.000 He makes money.

01:38:45.000 It's not free to watch.

01:38:46.000 You got to watch ads.

01:38:47.000 So it's the ad rev. Okay.

01:38:47.000 Yeah.

01:38:49.000 So his market is that he produces a piece of media and monetizes it through advertising.

01:38:56.000 So he is selling to advertisers.

01:38:58.000 When you play his video on another platform that bypasses those advertisers, you are stealing his ability to sell to advertisers.

01:39:04.000 Okay.

01:39:05.000 So I have two questions that flow from there.

01:39:06.000 So one is Is there a distinction in terms of legal precedent between that and a Direct pay to Paramount, for example, like a movie studio.

01:39:17.000 And then, B, if let's just say Ethan Klein's video gets demonetized for some reason, you know, he used a 22nd Star Trek thing or he, you know, said, I don't know, he gave the wrong opinion on vaccines somewhere in there.

01:39:33.000 Like, would that then.

01:39:36.000 It wouldn't change anything because he can monetize it in a million different ways.

01:39:39.000 The ability to control that is extremely important.

01:39:42.000 So we are, so it's not just the Ethan Klein thing.

01:39:44.000 This is just one example of it.

01:39:45.000 Where we are seeing the complete erosion of the right to monetize your content.

01:39:49.000 The first problem in this space is so he made an hour and 40 minute long video where he's ragging on Hassan. 1.00

01:39:56.000 It's kind of stupid. 0.99

01:39:57.000 I mean, I don't really care. 1.00

01:39:58.000 I mean, okay, fine, ragging on Hassan, right?

01:40:00.000 It's not like he made an Oscar winning $100 million feature length film or anything like that, right?

01:40:06.000 But it doesn't functionally matter.

01:40:07.000 The content cost doesn't matter.

01:40:10.000 The issue there is we spend between $50,000 and $150,000 here at Tim Cast to produce feature length documentaries.

01:40:15.000 We did Sin Frontera with 67 Kevin.

01:40:19.000 And that was expensive.

01:40:20.000 We got to get security.

01:40:20.000 He's got to fly.

01:40:21.000 He's got to do a bunch of stuff in Panama and all these things. 0.59

01:40:24.000 If we cannot monetize it because this woman, I'm not trying to rag on this woman, I'm just saying in general, was able to play it in full to her audience so they don't watch ours, we will never make a documentary again.

01:40:34.000 You sell those documentaries for, do you only monetize through like YouTube, AdRev on a free for the user, but you have to watch ads thing? 0.57

01:40:43.000 Combination of things.

01:40:44.000 Rumble Premium.

01:40:45.000 So it's Rumble Premium and then we do clips.

01:40:48.000 We monetize clips for the thing.

01:40:50.000 So Here's the full length, and then here's clips.

01:40:52.000 The clips promote but also generate money in and of themselves.

01:40:54.000 If you're a Rumble Premium, then you can watch for free as the user.

01:40:58.000 Well, if you're paying for a subscription or Rumble Premium, you paid for it.

01:41:01.000 Right, okay.

01:41:03.000 Although, in that case, isn't it kind of a little bit Netflix y in terms of the business model?

01:41:07.000 Because, like Netflix, you pay Netflix a monthly fee, and then you can watch for free the movies that you don't.

01:41:13.000 Well, it's not free, you're paying for them.

01:41:16.000 Right, well, I'm using it.

01:41:17.000 You're not like paying up front.

01:41:18.000 I don't know that there's the perfect constellation of words to capture this concept exactly.

01:41:23.000 It is free in terms of there is no additional charge beyond what you've already paid for a general service.

01:41:30.000 And you're not paying for them the same way that you're paying for like a one off movie purchase or to go to the movie theater or like, for example, if I but that's immaterial.

01:41:39.000 Well, that's my question is it material?

01:41:40.000 The idea of that some things are monetized through an upfront payment is not material in what your market is.

01:41:46.000 So, the question of copyright infringement is does there's a series of questions and a series of exemptions?

01:41:52.000 Uh, the questions are, did you copy the work?

01:41:55.000 Uh, first, it's do you hold the IP rights to the work?

01:41:59.000 No, was it someone else's?

01:42:00.000 Yes.

01:42:01.000 Did you copy or substantially use?

01:42:03.000 Yes.

01:42:04.000 And are you infringing on their market?

01:42:07.000 The infringing on a market is one of the most important things.

01:42:09.000 So we've dealt with this a lot.

01:42:11.000 The nature of this show and my morning show is literally built upon copyright infringement with exemption.

01:42:18.000 That is, when I pull up this article from copyright lately, they own the rights to this article.

01:42:23.000 The question then becomes is it fair use exemption or is it outright copyright infringement with no exemption?

01:42:30.000 The reason why this falls under fair use is that anybody who wants to read the full article is not having that substituted.

01:42:35.000 By watching this show, I did not read the full article, and we tend not to read full articles in their entirety.

01:42:41.000 And the article itself, even if we did read the full thing, and sometimes we do, is only one one millionth of the full website.

01:42:48.000 Anybody who is a customer of Copyright Daily who wants to pursue what they write needs to go to their site, and we do not replace them.

01:42:55.000 However, for a feature length production or even a single video, watching that in its entirety infringes upon its market.

01:43:02.000 That being said, it has long been upheld that it is not, I'm sorry, that it is a fair use exemption because she is critical.

01:43:09.000 And criticizing.

01:43:10.000 The argument is the public needs this ability to criticize public works.

01:43:16.000 However, if Ethan Klein was Paramount and she had watched Starfleet Academy, she would have been crushed.

01:43:23.000 My point is Paramount and these structures are weakening while independent content is expanding.

01:43:32.000 Don't get me wrong, we talked about the AI data net theory stuff and all that and how they're trying to push back on it.

01:43:37.000 I believe the end result of this.

01:43:39.000 The through line we're looking at is there will be no intellectual property.

01:43:42.000 As evidenced by the statements from Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey saying abolish IP laws and the fact that every day new precedent is set or new trials are lost on the issue of intellectual property and copyright infringement.

01:43:55.000 It's better to have no IP law than to have all the IP owned by a small group of people.

01:44:00.000 And it's going to be one or the other.

01:44:01.000 That's a tough question.

01:44:02.000 I have a good answer, but I will explain this.

01:44:03.000 One of the problems that we have is that this show, my morning show, and this show probably generate a couple hundred million views per month.

01:44:12.000 We control maybe about 60 to 70 million views per month.

01:44:16.000 That means if I go to my metrics on this show, it's like on YouTube, it's like 13 million per month.

01:44:22.000 Then on Rumble, it's like 20 million per month on my morning show.

01:44:25.000 We control those views.

01:44:26.000 When people say, How many views do you get?

01:44:28.000 I can say, We get about 60, 70 million views per month across all platforms.

01:44:31.000 I can go to advertisers and say, Would you like to buy against these videos?

01:44:35.000 However, there are people who rip, repost, comment on generating 100 plus million views.

01:44:42.000 We cannot control.

01:44:44.000 So I produce content I cannot monetize.

01:44:46.000 The problem there is the death threats and the security threats remain the same while the ability to monetize goes down, creating probably what I believe the deep state would prefer.

01:44:56.000 Smaller independent creators without backing struggle because you get death threats, you get violence.

01:45:00.000 It's harder to live a normal life and you can't make as much money as you used to.

01:45:04.000 So, for instance, full security for a studio is going to cost $5 million a year.

01:45:10.000 It's absolutely merciless.

01:45:12.000 Now, if you can't monetize the views that are resulting in those death threats and those threats, You can't tire security.

01:45:19.000 So it creates an inverse.

01:45:21.000 I don't want to die by speaking out, and I can't afford to protect myself, so I'm going to pull back.

01:45:27.000 I'm not saying it's a guarantee or anything like this.

01:45:29.000 The bigger question with Ethan Klein is I spent $100,000 producing a documentary.

01:45:34.000 It got ripped mercilessly by 10,000 people under fair use.

01:45:38.000 I made no money.

01:45:39.000 I will never make it again.

01:45:41.000 So I have two immediate reactions to that.

01:45:44.000 One, I'm not sure you're like, the second one I think you might find interesting.

01:45:48.000 So the first one is I could see a way.

01:45:50.000 Because what you're sort of getting at here, even if it's not currently codified or organized that way, I could see a judge preserving Paramount's ability and your ability for your documentaries to monetize by contextualizing the ruling somehow or using whatever framing is necessary to get there, where you basically allow fair use on non paywalled content.

01:46:16.000 But if you, like, for example, you know, like this difference between like a YouTube.

01:46:22.000 A traditional YouTube video and like having to go to Pirate Bay to jack something because you know you can't get it unless you pay someone.

01:46:29.000 The studio itself by getting a ticket or a Netflix subscription to get it, where they at least get some part of the pay because it's paywalled somehow, whether that's Amazon Prime, a movie studio, a Rumble premium thing that you need to pay.

01:46:47.000 They get some.

01:46:49.000 But when their business model is based on a paywall and you're circumventing the paywall to get it.

01:46:56.000 I could see there being a way where it preserves that.

01:46:58.000 It still infringes on the ad rev. I get that.

01:47:01.000 But what I find really interesting.

01:47:03.000 That's what they want.

01:47:04.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:47:05.000 What's really interesting about what you said about kind of like deeper forces around this is I've been pursuing something for a number of months, and you guys will see the fruits of it at some point this year.

01:47:20.000 This long range plot around controlling monetization of content online is something that gets.

01:47:27.000 Like the elements involved in control over monetization of content go to some just incredibly deep, dark, twisted forces, plots, agencies that it's kind of mind blowing.

01:47:44.000 Like this started immediately after the 2016 election when Trump won, and there were two things happening at once.

01:47:52.000 You had traditional gatekeeper media.

01:47:54.000 I won't, maybe I won't, I'll try to take the shortest route to this possible.

01:47:59.000 Okay, maybe I'll say, you can ask me questions if you're curious about it.

01:48:01.000 I don't want to, because I could talk about this for an hour.

01:48:03.000 But okay, just the super short version is when there was this crisis where the same thing that you're saying that is felt in the podcast, monetized podcast world, the legacy media was feeling that as their own ad rev was getting sucked out by the big, like Google and Facebook, was eating the traffic that used to, the ad revenue that came from traffic when you would see it in the New York Times instead of a, you know,

01:48:31.000 A YouTube video covering the story or it being tweeted out or something.

01:48:34.000 And so at the same time, there was this explosion of citizen journalists and just, you know, right wing news outlets that were alternatives to what you'd see on, you know, unipolar, you know, uniparty.

01:48:51.000 And so they came up with this plan to, in order to get their gatekeeper status back, they said there's too many messages, but there's much fewer messengers than messages.

01:49:02.000 We can't kill all the messages.

01:49:03.000 This is also before AI scan and ban, they were still using.

01:49:06.000 You know, right.

01:49:08.000 So, like, YouTube would hire like 10,000 new human moderators and it wouldn't make a dent.

01:49:12.000 Yeah.

01:49:12.000 Now, now they can do the AI scan and ban and do a lot more that way.

01:49:15.000 But what their plot was to simultaneously, they said if we, there's, there's a, at the time, Breitbart was super hot.

01:49:24.000 Like, Steve Bannon, who was leading Breitbart at the time, you know, even became effectively, you know, the shadow president as NSL and Saturday Night Live would refer to him and the like.

01:49:34.000 And they were like, okay, well, there's, you know, There's 10 million monthly active Breitbart readers, but there's only one Breitbart.

01:49:42.000 If you, we don't need to get rid of everybody sharing Breitbart.

01:49:45.000 Of course, if you just get rid of Breitbart, how do you do that?

01:49:48.000 You kill their ad rev. Right.

01:49:50.000 And so what they did is they set about this.

01:49:53.000 They started working with the advertising companies, the big four.

01:49:57.000 And literally, these were all like CIA cutout organizations.

01:50:01.000 And not only that, like the Biden administration, government itself, and even the Trump administration, unbeknownst to the White House, like USAID was doing this, the State Department was doing this.

01:50:10.000 And they had this sort of.

01:50:12.000 Policy of demonetizing disinformation, cutting out the funds of disinformation.

01:50:17.000 And even if you look at who's on the boards that they would funnel the money to, it was a place like NewsGuard, Michael B. Hayden, the CIA director.

01:50:22.000 I want to go back and keep this on track.

01:50:24.000 You mentioned there was this period where the media companies were suing Google because Google was crawling the news pages, and you would then go on Google and it would summarize articles underneath them.

01:50:36.000 It would say like the title of the article and the summary, so people weren't clicking the articles anymore because they would read the lead and then they were done.

01:50:42.000 So, this resulted in Canada actually banning, putting some bans in place on news websites, or something weird happened like this.

01:50:49.000 It was like a political, it was a pay to play, basically.

01:50:52.000 Well, so the issue was the news organization said, we can't make money if Google rips it and people read it for free.

01:50:59.000 So, this is important because it's exactly where we're going now.

01:51:02.000 The future will be, as you described it, individuals, independent shows like ours, will make no money because we'll have zero copyright protection.

01:51:10.000 There will be no IP laws for small individuals, but the big networks.

01:51:16.000 Will have a de facto IP protection despite the fact there won't be IP laws.

01:51:20.000 They will have a paywalled system that you have to use and they will funnel you towards and they will make it functionally impossible to make a living being an independent media personality.

01:51:30.000 That's the whole point of this.

01:51:32.000 Like, my argument is if Ethan Klein actually loses and this makes precedent, then the functional argument is I can watch Avengers Doomsday in its entirety.

01:51:41.000 But do we really believe they will allow the little guy to go to do anything to them?

01:51:45.000 The point is.

01:51:47.000 Ethan Klein is an independent guy who is very wealthy and well off with a lot of following, will not be able to compete.

01:51:52.000 They did not, remember, was it Markiplier?

01:51:56.000 Yeah.

01:51:56.000 Is that his name?

01:51:57.000 He made that movie and they got really mad.

01:52:00.000 He made a blockbuster movie.

01:52:02.000 They don't like gatekeepers.

01:52:04.000 Carter and I did music, should have charted on Billboard Hot 100, and they tricked us and made sure it could not over and over again.

01:52:11.000 This is the machine they are building.

01:52:13.000 And this is the point.

01:52:14.000 You will not be able to monetize your content, it's fair use and free for all.

01:52:18.000 The big companies will functionally be under the same rules, but they will crush you under the weight of their machine.

01:52:23.000 I think you can still make money even if you don't have the rights to your content because people, advertisers will advertise on the live show.

01:52:30.000 People will still subscribe for the live show.

01:52:33.000 Ian, I cannot make money if someone else clips this video.

01:52:36.000 I can't make money.

01:52:37.000 Well, if they clip your advertisement, you're making double the money.

01:52:39.000 No, I'm not.

01:52:40.000 Go to place and type in code TIMM.

01:52:43.000 Like if someone else runs that ad for you, you're duplicating your audience.

01:52:47.000 Right, but we don't get paid for that.

01:52:50.000 We should be getting paid for hits, promo code TIMMM.

01:52:52.000 I don't want to do contingency. 0.93

01:52:54.000 Contingency sucks.

01:52:55.000 We like going to advertising and saying it is a set rate. 0.97

01:52:58.000 And if you're, listen, Ian.

01:52:59.000 I think you can still get that.

01:53:00.000 Imagine a sponsor comes to us and they go, we want to market this handle.

01:53:07.000 For hammers, handle for hammers.

01:53:09.000 That's right.

01:53:10.000 It's a 3D printed clip that clips onto a hammer so you can hold it so the hammer is like this.

01:53:15.000 And I'll go, okay, well, the rate is for you $10,000.

01:53:20.000 And they go, deal, promo code TIN.

01:53:21.000 How many people are going to buy that?

01:53:23.000 I don't know.

01:53:24.000 So if I said, if they said, we'll give you $5 per sale, I'm going to say, no one's going to buy that product.

01:53:29.000 I think you can still make money off the ad reads, even if you don't have long term ownership, because it's really about the immediate show.

01:53:34.000 People watch it once.

01:53:35.000 Tomorrow they're going to watch the show tomorrow.

01:53:37.000 They're not going to watch the show tomorrow.

01:53:39.000 They do.

01:53:39.000 We actually have clips throughout the whole week.

01:53:40.000 You'll have the live show you can still go to as long as you're working.

01:53:43.000 You can't make the money on it.

01:53:43.000 It's kind of weird.

01:53:44.000 Well, it's kind of weird for an artist or an entertainer to have access to their own production output.

01:53:49.000 It's a 20th century.

01:53:50.000 What's going to happen is for the big networks, if you do a critique on Avengers, YouTube will just say, We've got a finance claim.

01:54:02.000 They won't call it IP or copyright, and they'll just send whatever money you would have made to the big networks.

01:54:07.000 And then when Ethan Klein says, You watched my documentary, they'll say, Shove off.

01:54:13.000 We do got to go to your Rumble rants and super chats.

01:54:15.000 So we're going to read what you guys say.

01:54:17.000 The Uncensored Show is coming up in a few minutes at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.

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01:55:32.000 And when someone clips that, they already bought the ad, so I don't get extra money for views we can't track.

01:55:41.000 We don't get dollars per sale.

01:55:42.000 We got this old ass tech where it's hard to track where the money's coming from, where it's going to.

01:55:46.000 Like with blockchain smart contracts, it does make it easier to track.

01:55:50.000 I got to pause.

01:55:50.000 I got to stop you.

01:55:52.000 What do you mean?

01:55:52.000 That's not true.

01:55:53.000 We have had reference URLs forever.

01:55:57.000 And when we do contingency, which we have done, we know exactly who's clicking.

01:56:02.000 We know how many sales we're getting.

01:56:03.000 That's how Amazon works.

01:56:05.000 We don't sell here at Timcast, for the most part, contingency deals because they're usually bad deals.

01:56:10.000 Like I mentioned, there are a lot of companies that say, We have a product, and we go, I don't know that's a good product.

01:56:17.000 And they say, Well, we're going to try and advertise it anyway.

01:56:20.000 They could say to us, We'll give you $10 for every sale.

01:56:22.000 And we had one company approach us on a product.

01:56:24.000 And they said, we won't do a direct buy because we don't have the capital for it.

01:56:28.000 Can we do a contingency?

01:56:30.000 And I said no because no one will buy your product.

01:56:33.000 So if that video goes viral and the ad is in it, it won't matter.

01:56:37.000 I won't make money off the contingency.

01:56:38.000 And if they do a direct pay and say, we'll give you 10 grand for the ad read and it goes viral, I can't go back to them and say, hey, look at this.

01:56:45.000 Some random guy commented on the video and got another million views.

01:56:48.000 They're going to say, too bad.

01:56:49.000 And there should be an AI that can crawl the web and find iterations of that video for you.

01:56:49.000 You should be.

01:56:53.000 So then perhaps the negotiations after the fact are we'll charge you 10K for the direct read.

01:57:01.000 And we'll give you a half price rate for all views.

01:57:04.000 You know why they wouldn't do that deal?

01:57:06.000 Because they'll be like, that's an infinite loss.

01:57:09.000 If we agree to 10 grand on the ad read and it performs well, we make money.

01:57:13.000 If someone then copies that ad and it blows up and we owe you a million dollars we don't have, we're in default.

01:57:21.000 We can't get an infinite downside ad buy.

01:57:24.000 That wouldn't make sense.

01:57:25.000 But like clippers, this age of other people taking your stuff and clipping it and putting it on other networks.

01:57:30.000 Copyright's dead.

01:57:31.000 What if the ad was used in a place that you don't want it to be used to?

01:57:34.000 Like someone.

01:57:35.000 Like Chubb the Builder clipped it or something.

01:57:37.000 And then, well, we got to read some of these.

01:57:39.000 We only got a few minutes, and I rambled too long. 0.88

01:57:42.000 Joshua says, Black divists are obsessed with melanin ratio. 1.00

01:57:45.000 It's their only currency. 1.00

01:57:46.000 They want perpetual grievance, or their entire victimhood identity would be rendered obsolete.

01:57:51.000 Hmm.

01:57:53.000 Brutal assessment.

01:57:55.000 What do we got here?

01:57:56.000 Blave Kaiser says, I may be in a bubble as well, or this is orchestrated. 0.99

01:58:00.000 I've seen tons of black content creators calling Carmelo and these other morons out, but they're not getting any traction. 0.99

01:58:06.000 Well, it's a mixed bag. 0.99

01:58:09.000 When you look at most of Reddit, everybody's like, he's guilty, man.

01:58:12.000 They're not going to riot over this.

01:58:14.000 But we showed you a video guy punching, put someone in the head. 0.97

01:58:17.000 There exists this contingent of black identitarianism. 1.00

01:58:20.000 That's what we're calling out. 1.00

01:58:21.000 Rebecca.

01:58:22.000 Real quick, that's why earlier today I said, what bothers me about all of this is racists. 1.00

01:58:27.000 These black people, they are racist. 0.98

01:58:29.000 There are tons of great black people, and my favorite Supreme Court Justice, Clarence Thomas, shouldn't even have to be brought up in this. 1.00

01:58:35.000 But we do this because the left are racists.

01:58:38.000 And we try to clarify our position to people who are not politically initiated.

01:58:42.000 Well, and I think actually this administration is really doing for the first time kind of like a full frontal assault on the front end of the funnel of that.

01:58:51.000 Like, if you look at it, they've gone at disparate impact root and branch.

01:58:55.000 They've gone at DEI super hard.

01:58:57.000 And they've tied the federal grant money to like getting DEI out.

01:59:01.000 And a lot of this is, you know, cultural, familial, you know, reinforced in a hundred different ways.

01:59:07.000 But the fact is, when it's sanctioned by your school and it's taught, You know, at the school level, which every single person has to go to, and it gets reinforced through that, and it's not taught that it's bad.

01:59:18.000 In fact, it's taught that it's good.

01:59:20.000 Like that creates this culture, and we're only right now into like year one and a half of any attempt to get rid of it.

01:59:28.000 I think there actually was a major Justice Department ruling on disparate impact just this week.

01:59:34.000 And the fact that they're, I mean, what you see is a lot of like machine left Democrats who are upset right now at the academia and the universities because they're bending.

01:59:46.000 On this compact for America thing around basically putting contingency on whether you get federal funds for whether you've uprooted your DEI.

01:59:56.000 We got a question for you, Mike.

01:59:57.000 David Flora says We're watching color revolutionary tactics regarding the Carmelo case.

02:00:05.000 How much worse would this be if USAID still existed?

02:00:09.000 Well, so I mean, I would say this looks bad and ugly, but also small scale.

02:00:17.000 Not like, okay, I don't see, for example, AFL CIO, SEIU.

02:00:25.000 I don't see institutional cover for this in the way that you would see in a color revolution.

02:00:30.000 In a color revolution, you would have masses of people on the streets.

02:00:33.000 You would have intense organization.

02:00:35.000 You would have institutional sponsorship.

02:00:38.000 You would have diplomatic top cover.

02:00:40.000 You would have a whole range of things that this is not.

02:00:44.000 I would not say that every time there is some sort of destabilization event at any local level, that that is a manifestation of an orchestrated color revolution. 0.99

02:00:54.000 I mean, there is such a thing as authentic protest, even when the authentic They're authentically stupid. 0.98

02:01:00.000 Like that happens all the time in ways big and small. 0.97

02:01:04.000 And I would categorize this as a relatively small temporal kind of, you know, fever outbreak of a black nationalist sort of sentiment in a relative minority, you know, portion of both the black community and what we saw in Congress.

02:01:24.000 So I wouldn't characterize it as that if, and I don't think USAID would, even in its. 0.53

02:01:33.000 Most pernicious.

02:01:35.000 They would take on a BLM type case or even a Trayvon Martin type case where there's a disputed fact pattern, something like this.

02:01:42.000 Right.

02:01:42.000 They can't win.

02:01:42.000 Yeah, I don't think.

02:01:44.000 We got Neglectful Sausage says If YouTube oppressed your people, you'd vote to convict more often.

02:01:44.000 Let's grab this one.

02:01:50.000 This is why YouTube flight is a real thing.

02:01:52.000 Oakland used to be 95% YouTube, same as Chicago.

02:01:56.000 You leave from crime and from tribal convictions. 0.80

02:02:00.000 What does that mean?

02:02:02.000 YouTube works in mysterious ways.

02:02:04.000 He wrote YT.

02:02:07.000 If YouTube.

02:02:09.000 Stop. 0.90

02:02:10.000 If white oppressed your people, you vote to convict more often. 0.71

02:02:13.000 This is why white flight is a real thing. 0.53

02:02:15.000 Oakland used to be 95% white. 1.00

02:02:17.000 Same as Chicago, you leave from the crime and from tribal convictions. 0.69

02:02:20.000 So, what happens is, I think traditional American culture and largely among the white population, it is very non confrontational and seeks to avoid conflict. 0.58

02:02:33.000 I actually think this is why it's rooted in.

02:02:36.000 Literally, who this country was founded by people who are fleeing from Europe.

02:02:40.000 They say, I'd rather go live in the middle of the woods than deal with what's going on here.

02:02:44.000 It's no surprise then that the descendants of those people, say me from Chicago, say, I don't want to live here.

02:02:51.000 I'm going to go move somewhere else.

02:02:52.000 And that's why you get a lot of this, you know?

02:02:55.000 A lot of it is also law and order and the pressure on law and order to stand down amidst political pressure.

02:03:01.000 Like, if you look at where crime has gotten really bad, you see a lot of capture at the city council and mayor's office to appeal to the kind of. 0.64

02:03:10.000 You know, what in cases like this is almost like a black nationalist type bloodlust type thing.

02:03:15.000 But because you have a lot of that sentiment playing out politically and whatnot in these cities, it's, it's, uh, there's the police department's told to stand down or it's underfunded.

02:03:26.000 Like, and what I like about what this administration is doing, first of all, I've lived in DC probably four or five times now in my life for various years and then taking off and then coming back for various things.

02:03:36.000 And, uh, it is, DC is way safer than it has ever been.

02:03:41.000 And, oh man, clean.

02:03:42.000 It's clean.

02:03:43.000 Wow.

02:03:44.000 It's clean.

02:03:45.000 It's safe.

02:03:46.000 Like, none of my friends have ever known.

02:03:47.000 I remember when I lived there during term one, the pizza shop next to me got shot up, and the Whole Foods next to me got robbed at gunpoint, like my second month there.

02:03:59.000 The Washington Post covered for the Whole Foods robber that held them up at gunpoint, saying, Oh, you know, he was like a poet rapper just trying to get his life on track type thing.

02:04:09.000 And we're like, Okay, my pizza shop got the window shot up.

02:04:12.000 Like, this is.

02:04:13.000 The capital city?

02:04:14.000 Like, what if I was a senator's son?

02:04:16.000 Like, why would a senator?

02:04:18.000 But the fact is, what Trump did is now everywhere you go in D.C., there are men in camo with large visible guns that they don't say anything.

02:04:28.000 They're not in your face.

02:04:29.000 They're just walking around everywhere.

02:04:33.000 It's crazy how quickly they are able to clean it up.

02:04:36.000 Literally, in the matter of like, it's crazy.

02:04:37.000 It's like San Francisco cleaning up the homeless thing when the China delegation.

02:04:41.000 Right, right.

02:04:42.000 But I think that the admin just announced an initiative to do this at like a.

02:04:48.000 At a national level.

02:04:49.000 I don't agree with that.

02:04:50.000 This is a special case for feds.

02:04:52.000 You don't put the feds in other cities, not leagues.

02:04:54.000 No, but I think there's a program.

02:04:55.000 I think it's a voluntary program.

02:04:57.000 Let's talk about this.

02:04:58.000 We've got to go to the uncensored portion.

02:04:59.000 I want to read one more chap. 0.92

02:05:01.000 Aaron Glenn is a terrorist. 0.60

02:05:03.000 That's his name. 0.87

02:05:04.000 Says apparently yapping about Ethan Klein is more important than covering the riots in Ireland happening literally right now.

02:05:08.000 No, that's for the uncensored show where we're going to show it uncensored.

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02:06:00.000 Yeah, I think we play it like four.

02:06:03.000 No, no, no, on the floor.

02:06:05.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:06.000 They do it in alphabetical order.

02:06:07.000 So you're in 303 and then all that remains.

02:06:09.000 So it's Sunday?

02:06:10.000 Yeah, it's a Sunday, yeah.

02:06:11.000 I'll be competing with the UFC fight.

02:06:12.000 Yeah, I know.

02:06:13.000 I'll fight the tickets too.

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02:08:00.000 I just texted you this new Trump initiative, this Model Cities initiative, this thing I was talking about where they're trying to basically do this, what they did in D.C., like around the country.

02:08:12.000 Yeah.

02:08:14.000 So it's hard to know which of these videos are real coming out of Belfast, reportedly.

02:08:18.000 There's a lot of conversations saying it's calmed down quite a bit, so we're not entirely sure.

02:08:24.000 Just a lot of walking around.

02:08:26.000 So I suppose as we're just pulling these videos in, the question I have for you guys that we're about to get into, Ian, You don't think we should send in the feds, federal law enforcement, to cities, clean them up?

02:08:36.000 Well, generally, my understanding is because Washington, D.C. is a federal district, you have the authority to put federal troops in it for law and order.

02:08:45.000 But other cities, it's up to them whether they want to invite National Guard in or not.

02:08:49.000 So there's a really interesting corollary here to how the censorship industrial complex got set up and how they got around that.

02:08:56.000 So every state was able to administer its own elections and its own digital software.

02:09:05.000 Until January 6, 2017, the same day the Russia, the Russiagate shit started with the Intelligence Community Assessment came out on July 6, 2017. 0.85

02:09:16.000 That's also the day they certified the election. 0.76

02:09:21.000 That same day, Jed Johnson, the DHS secretary, announced an executive order that declared cybersecurity to be critical infrastructure.

02:09:31.000 This is how DHS would eventually come to create the Office of Misdiscipline and Malinformation.

02:09:37.000 And the CISA cyber censorship stuff, it all came down to saying, well, tweets about elections are a cyber attack on the integrity of the elections if they contain misinformation.

02:09:46.000 But it started with this.

02:09:48.000 Now, at the time, all 50 states signed a joint letter opposing what they called the federal, the national, like nationalizing state sovereignty over elections.

02:10:00.000 And what DHS did to get around it is they said, okay, we know legally that we can't make you do this, but we're going to set up a $500 million slush fund.

02:10:09.000 And if you agree on a voluntary basis to let DHS control your electronic voting systems, to let DHS control the infrastructure you use, the like all cyber and digital systems related to your voting processes, then you get $100 million in federal funds for being a participant in the conditions as we get control over this.

02:10:33.000 And what they did is they just bribed every state until they got to yes on that.

02:10:37.000 And it looks like this is what the Trump admin is actually doing on this Model Cities thing.

02:10:42.000 Like I just.

02:10:42.000 Shot this over to you by text.

02:10:44.000 If you want to pull it, you can just literally just type in Trump Model Cities Initiative.

02:10:49.000 And what they're doing is they're creating a $300 million fund where basically cities will qualify to get tens, hundreds of millions of dollars if they let the federal troops in, which is really interesting because this is what we saw play out in DC.

02:11:04.000 Norm Eisen and the Democrats hated Bowser, the mayor, for they were like, why aren't you fighting back Trump on this?

02:11:12.000 And what was happening is the Trump admin, at least this is my understanding of it, Was putting pressure around grants to DC.

02:11:20.000 And so Bowser was like, no, that's okay.

02:11:23.000 We're not going to fight you on this because if we fight you on this, you're going to pull our funding on that.

02:11:28.000 And so, like, the admin is a lot smarter this time in terms of how they're going about this.

02:11:33.000 And it would be interesting to see if this pool, like, they establish a bunch of red state cities, like you do this in Salt Lake City or, you know, I don't know, Nashville or something.

02:11:43.000 Like, I could see this expanding and scaling.

02:11:45.000 It's the video that we have running.

02:11:47.000 Oh, there's a video?

02:11:48.000 Well, so you had Twitter pull up or X.

02:11:48.000 Yeah.

02:11:50.000 And it's just.

02:11:51.000 It was just still going, but it was a weird hum.

02:11:53.000 So I was like, I thought it was.

02:11:54.000 Yeah, I was like, is that my fan?

02:11:56.000 No.

02:11:57.000 Well, keep that going.

02:11:58.000 Yeah, but so this will be interesting because what you'll see is like red cities are going to, like, I think Miami Dade is technically red right now.

02:12:08.000 Maybe it just switched back to blue, but I could see Miami like immediately saying free money plus I need to spend less on my police department because now I've got like the feds helping with my law enforcement.

02:12:21.000 I could see Miami saying instant yes to that.

02:12:24.000 I could see Jacksonville, Florida saying instant yes to that.

02:12:27.000 I could see I don't know.

02:12:28.000 I don't know that Salt Lake City has a particular problem on this, but maybe, you know, like some like red, like I could see it starting there and then moving into purple cities and where it's just, it's just from their person, from the mayor's office, it's free money just to be a part of this.

02:12:43.000 And they could even tell, you know, their constituents, like, look, we've cut funding to local police and, you know, sort of like I could see it working out, not necessarily in Chicago or LA the way it's working in DC, because the Trump administration has much more leverage over DC than it does over.

02:13:01.000 LA or Chicago, or I don't know, Austin, Texas, or something.

02:13:05.000 But this is a really interesting initiative that is kind of first of its kind that toes in and will have immediate buy in from a number of jurisdictions.

02:13:16.000 And I could see it scaling.

02:13:17.000 And I could see the pool of money getting high enough to where you start striking deals with some Democrat majority cities.

02:13:27.000 And it also just institutionalizes, you know.

02:13:31.000 Support for police in a way that almost offloads the political pressure that comes from running at the state, the local level.

02:13:38.000 Two things I have an issue with is one, it's the fiat system, is that they can print infinite money, bankrupt me to bribe different cities to take their federal troops. 0.81

02:13:47.000 And I feel like they did this to the Native Americans.

02:13:48.000 They bribed a lot of the chieftains, the tribal chieftains, to buy their land and sell out their tribes. 0.60

02:13:53.000 And that's how they got their tentacles into that movement.

02:13:56.000 And then, like, I'm a red blooded American fully, but like, I don't necessarily centralization of power makes me very nervous.

02:14:02.000 If there's feds, it's the hat.

02:14:03.000 If there's feds tethered throughout this system and then the federal government changes a law, you can't run and hide behind your local cops as easily because the feds are already there.

02:14:13.000 So, this is supposed to be the country where you can break the law if the law is evil.

02:14:18.000 That's the impetus of this nation is the chaos that comes from overthrowing a tyrannical legal system.

02:14:24.000 Yeah, that's what we did with the British.

02:14:25.000 But that's not what the founding fathers intended moving forward.

02:14:27.000 Well, Thomas Jefferson was very clear about what to do with tyrants once in a while.

02:14:31.000 You mean when he wrote a letter saying, I should not have said that?

02:14:33.000 Of course, later than recanting.

02:14:34.000 Later, like two weeks later, he was like, You're right, John.

02:14:37.000 I was Fed posting.

02:14:38.000 Sorry, guys.

02:14:42.000 I was Fed posting.

02:14:42.000 I was ransom.

02:14:43.000 I've got to go back on it, but you understand the revolutionary mindset and the defense against tyranny, centralized tyranny.

02:14:49.000 So that's my take.

02:14:51.000 They understood, like, the founding fathers were concerned about tyrannical government because they had just experienced it, but they were also concerned about a government that had no authority, which is why the Confederacy, the Confederation, fell apart and they had to create the United States under the Constitution.

02:15:06.000 They were like, hey guys, it actually doesn't work when we don't have any power.

02:15:09.000 You're like the Hamiltonians versus the Jeffersonians, talking about big government, big federal government, small federal government.

02:15:14.000 Well, there are a couple of things going on here that I think might assuage some of the fears that you expressed, which I'm sentimental to as well.

02:15:21.000 But in this case, it does come down, like there is a voluntary element.

02:15:25.000 You are selling your soul, if you will, to get the money in exchange you give up some of your sovereignty effectively over policing your own things.

02:15:34.000 But if the voters really hate that, they can mobilize on that issue and elect a different mayor or elect a different governor.

02:15:40.000 To who campaigns on getting the feds out of Chicago.

02:15:45.000 The other thing I'd say is that, you know, the feds who will be patrolling these cities are ostensibly, you know, assuming a way.

02:15:56.000 I'll just do my LLM.

02:15:58.000 I'm assuming a way.

02:15:59.000 I'm assuming a perfect model here.

02:16:00.000 But like in DC, you don't have widespread abuses with these troops and additional law enforcement.

02:16:05.000 Like they're not like cracking skulls or picking fights or something.

02:16:08.000 They're, they are.

02:16:09.000 And like this is, you can't have anything without a safe city.

02:16:12.000 Like you can't have the Walmart, the targets don't even want to be like Chipotle's.

02:16:17.000 Like, Like, think about the cost impost.

02:16:18.000 It's just on CVS in San Francisco.

02:16:21.000 Just to, like, you have to talk to a store owner, just get a toothpick.

02:16:25.000 Did you see the video of the woman? 0.84

02:16:26.000 It's a black woman, and she's looking at the locked cases, and she goes, What the hell is this? 0.95

02:16:30.000 How is anybody supposed to shop? 0.95

02:16:34.000 And everyone's like, She's about to say, Steal.

02:16:36.000 I got a question for you guys in this capacity.

02:16:39.000 Are we happy with the people rioting in Belfast?

02:16:43.000 I don't know much about it. 0.96

02:16:44.000 A Sudanese guy carved up a guy's face with a steak knife, sawing at his eyes and his throat and his face, trying to saw his head off with a steak knife. 0.70

02:16:52.000 And this is like the third instance of intentional racial violence against the white population in the past like five months. 0.79

02:16:59.000 Is this a migrant crime thing too? 0.84

02:17:00.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:00.000 Or is it? 1.00

02:17:02.000 They're energetic demonstrations.

02:17:05.000 I'm happy about it.

02:17:06.000 I mean, so it's. 0.92

02:17:07.000 We support the riders wearing the black Irish cars. 0.95

02:17:09.000 I was going to say.

02:17:11.000 I mean, like the energy, I think we're all sympathetic to the cause, of course, but I don't know.

02:17:16.000 And maybe it's kind of like a cope, but I just, the violence is like never ideal.

02:17:21.000 It just, but then again, it's just evidence that the potential.

02:17:24.000 This is the uncensored.

02:17:25.000 I try to keep good habits, keep my side of the street clean.

02:17:28.000 But no, it's just evidence that the pendulum has swung in the total opposite. 0.97

02:17:32.000 It's kind of like their BLM in a way, is how I think of it. 0.92

02:17:35.000 It's like, obviously, the racial thing is kind of inverted and it's a little bit different because he's a migrant.

02:17:40.000 But like, you kind of just, I don't know, violence is bad, whatever, but like, you understand where they're coming from.

02:17:48.000 They're being invaded.

02:17:49.000 Exactly.

02:17:49.000 This is like, this is a fight for their own survival.

02:17:53.000 So just to understand, so I remember, I think it was last year in the UK.

02:17:58.000 There's sort of a flash of this they associated with Tommy Robinson.

02:18:01.000 I think there was like some.

02:18:03.000 Was that March?

02:18:04.000 They blamed him even though he wasn't there.

02:18:04.000 Yeah.

02:18:06.000 And he said, be peaceful.

02:18:07.000 It was in 2024.

02:18:09.000 This was actually the thing that led the head of the EU Digital Commission to threaten Elon Musk for talking to Trump about.

02:18:17.000 This is during the 2024 election cycle, where basically there were like these white street riots in the UK about like, I think it started as being about this like shelter or like.

02:18:17.000 I remember this.

02:18:28.000 Wasn't it like. 0.99

02:18:28.000 Three little girls were murdered or some shit. 0.99

02:18:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:30.000 Raped. 1.00

02:18:31.000 I think they were murdered. 0.95

02:18:31.000 Yeah. 0.95

02:18:32.000 Yeah.

02:18:33.000 Yeah.

02:18:34.000 And then this became like this red alarm fire for the British government where they basically, because I remember, because I folded into my policy presentations where I say, think about, look at what they did.

02:18:47.000 The EU threatened to fine an American company X for talking to an American citizen, presidential candidate Donald Trump, for talking about events in a non EU country.

02:18:59.000 The UK, because after Brexit, they're not.

02:19:01.000 So, the reach of this censorship law to impose fines on American social media companies for what you're allowed to talk about on the platform, you had the head of that commission threatening a non EU platform talking to a non EU citizen about an event in a non EU country, and the EU can sue the American company hundreds of millions of dollars about it.

02:19:22.000 And so, it looks like that is happening at a large.

02:19:26.000 Are these how bad?

02:19:27.000 Like, how bad are these riots?

02:19:27.000 Can we watch?

02:19:29.000 Are they like.

02:19:29.000 Well, today they're not so bad.

02:19:32.000 Today, it's not as crazy, but it's still pretty intense.

02:19:34.000 They're doing like black ski mask type.

02:19:36.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:37.000 It's like Antifa.

02:19:37.000 Yo, yeah.

02:19:38.000 Black Balk is a tactic. 1.00

02:19:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:19:40.000 Here's the thing you want to know how I feel?

02:19:43.000 Native Irish are defending their homeland.

02:19:45.000 I'm not a big fan of the violence targeting these houses and civilians going to watch out for kids.

02:19:49.000 Antifa are the invaders trying to destroy the American way.

02:19:52.000 It's a moral question.

02:19:53.000 This idea that the liberals, the left, the progressives will be like, but I thought you were opposed to riots and violence.

02:19:59.000 No, I'm opposed to your riots and violence the same way you state you're opposed to my riots and violence while supporting your own.

02:20:06.000 I recognize the indigenous people of Ireland will fight to defend their country.

02:20:11.000 And again, I actually think the rioting is bad. 0.99

02:20:15.000 You know, but I understand it and I'm more tolerant because it is the indigenous Irish. 0.99

02:20:20.000 Well, the rioting is bad, but the displacement of the indigenous people is worse. 0.99

02:20:26.000 It's way more understandable than like all of the BLM nonsense. 0.84

02:20:28.000 Yeah.

02:20:29.000 Well, like I said earlier today, the BLM stuff was all based on a lie.

02:20:32.000 Right.

02:20:33.000 You had people like LeBron James saying that we're being hunted in the streets, right?

02:20:38.000 Like just total fabrication.

02:20:41.000 You see, since the BLM riots and, and, That stuff.

02:20:47.000 Police officers have to wear, you know, basically body cams are ubiquitous.

02:20:52.000 And you see over and over and over and over these police interactions that are not a police officer shooting an unarmed person, trying to, you know, with their hands up, don't shoot.

02:21:02.000 The whole hands up, don't shoot thing was proven to be a lie. 0.67

02:21:05.000 The whole narrative for the BLM stuff was absolute BS.

02:21:10.000 You can't say that there are not significantly more migrants.

02:21:16.000 In Ireland and in the UK, and they were coming in and they're getting benefits from the government.

02:21:22.000 You can't say that it's not happening, it absolutely is happening.

02:21:25.000 The Henry Nowak thing was like insane. 0.98

02:21:27.000 The only reason the guy had that knife on him was literally because of a religious exemption for a migrant. 0.94

02:21:33.000 Like, that's insane. 0.99

02:21:35.000 And that same exemption, not that we can't carry knives here and in the United States, obviously you can be armed so that you know that's protected, but there are religious exemptions in places where you normally couldn't carry a knife for seeking. 0.93

02:21:46.000 Bro, because imagine if like some Native American just blasted you with a knife. 0.85

02:21:50.000 With, with, like, peyote. 1.00

02:21:52.000 They're like walking and they go like, oh, I'm tripping.

02:21:54.000 And they're like, I have an exemption for it.

02:21:57.000 The Henry Nowak thing is a perfect example, though, because it's not just like the laws or the system that's screwed up.

02:22:02.000 Although, yes, it's like the culture.

02:22:04.000 It's, you see, the police officer detaining the victim and he's saying, I'm dying.

02:22:10.000 I can't breathe.

02:22:11.000 I've been stabbed.

02:22:12.000 He goes, I don't think you have, mate.

02:22:14.000 It's like, what?

02:22:15.000 Like, that, that's something way worse than my opinion.

02:22:18.000 That phrase is already made around the whole country.

02:22:20.000 It's huge on the internet.

02:22:21.000 We got, we got to bring callers in, though.

02:22:23.000 So we're going to start with Freedom Eagle.

02:22:24.000 What's going on, Freedom Eagle?

02:22:26.000 Sup, Freedom?

02:22:29.000 Freedom is happening.

02:22:30.000 That's what's happening.

02:22:32.000 What do you got?

02:22:36.000 He's got freedom.

02:22:39.000 Freedom of silence.

02:22:40.000 I lost it here.

02:22:41.000 Are you pleading the fifth?

02:22:43.000 You didn't answer the question.

02:22:44.000 Good talk.

02:22:45.000 Your audio's cutting in and out.

02:22:46.000 I am going to plead.

02:22:48.000 I'll plead the fourth.

02:22:52.000 So the question is kind of a census centric question.

02:22:57.000 It's more for Mike, but I want everybody's opinion on it.

02:23:02.000 With the current procedural wins we're seeing with federal elections, at least some progress being made with the immigration control, can we hope to see cultural cohesion begin rebuilding after a potential census win in 2030?

02:23:19.000 And are we on a good track to procedural 2030 census win?

02:23:26.000 Or are things going to spiral after Trump?

02:23:29.000 I actually have no problem if the media apparatus consolidates, so long as it consolidates around a populist MAGA kind of space where they're not transing the kids, they're not lying to us.

02:23:40.000 It's generally well intentioned, meaningful journalism.

02:23:44.000 I trust that if Steven Crowder, for instance, was one of 10 voices, we'd have a better educated country.

02:23:53.000 We'd be much, much better off. 0.98

02:23:55.000 So, the issue with consolidation under the left institutions is that they're liars, they're cheaters, and they're thieves, and they steal power. 0.84

02:24:03.000 Cultural cohesion is going to come from people all watching the same movies, enjoying the same topics, sharing the same sports.

02:24:10.000 The way to do that is consolidation.

02:24:12.000 So, we just want consolidation.

02:24:14.000 For what we believe in.

02:24:16.000 Yeah, I think.

02:24:17.000 So, wait, you mentioned the census.

02:24:20.000 Did you mean consensus or were you talking about.

02:24:22.000 Well, they changed the census.

02:24:23.000 It's going to shift how Democrats vote.

02:24:25.000 We're going to get more seats in the Republican Party.

02:24:27.000 Democrats are going to have to adapt to try and.

02:24:29.000 So, I'd heard rumblings of it, but I hadn't been tracking that closely.

02:24:33.000 So, I remember that there was an attempt to.

02:24:35.000 I understand that, for example, like district, like seats, the number of seats that you are eligible for as a state is a function of the number of people in the census and that illegal. 0.85

02:24:47.000 Immigrants were like counted in this. 0.58

02:24:48.000 It's just natural net in migration. 0.63

02:24:50.000 So people from California move to Texas.

02:24:52.000 So Texas is going to gain a seat.

02:24:53.000 California is going to lose a seat.

02:24:55.000 Then with redistricting, it's going to be a big swing.

02:24:55.000 Oh, interesting.

02:24:57.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:24:59.000 Well, I mean, so I think that there are also ways that you can achieve social cohesion even without centralization as long as your dispute resolution mechanisms are good and there are appeals to a just system that are enforced fairly.

02:25:21.000 Like, I do think that we have our federalized, our sort of, you know, federalist system, you know, so that you have a choice about whether you want to be in a red or a blue state or a red town or a blue city, you know, type thing.

02:25:37.000 And I do think that, like, often what would happen is, is even when you had like decentralized leftist institutions dominating things, when you tried to sort of create your own alternative to it, it would squash you.

02:25:52.000 And there was this feeling that if things became decentralized enough, And people started migrating towards the decentralized side of the media, that we would win just because everyone would migrate into the less centralized gatekeeper type thing.

02:26:07.000 And their response to that was to try to kill all the decentralized nodes.

02:26:11.000 This was like the famous Parler story.

02:26:13.000 Remember, they were like, okay, you don't like how social media is censoring you?

02:26:16.000 Build your own social media site.

02:26:18.000 And then Parler's built and Amazon Web.

02:26:21.000 So it's like, okay, now you need to build your own subsea cables, low earth satellites, build your own sovereign nation state. 0.99

02:26:29.000 Parked out of an Indian reservation, you rent somewhere. 1.00

02:26:31.000 It's like, I need to basically declare a revolution against the king if I want to just run a shitposty permissible social media site. 0.74

02:26:41.000 And so I think that had there not been the crackdown on alternatives that there was, there would be eventually in time, you'd have differences between left and right and along a number of grounds, but you'd still have a relatively cohesive country as long as you can trust your elections and as long as. 0.97

02:27:03.000 You know, you can't, the centralized parts of the nodes can't just completely, you know, where there's no exhaust pipe other than a fuck you vote, which is what I think basically Trump represented in both in 2016 and 2024. 0.86

02:27:20.000 I think in both cases it was. 0.97

02:27:21.000 In 2020.

02:27:22.000 Yeah.

02:27:22.000 Well, in 2020, he was the incumbent and there was.

02:27:27.000 Yeah, I mean, I do think that, but I think in 2024, it was just so intense because he got shot in the face and they, you know, tried to throw him in jail for a thousand years and it was either.

02:27:37.000 He ends up dying in prison where he's president. 0.98

02:27:40.000 And in 2016, it was the groundbreaking fuck you type thing. 0.97

02:27:45.000 But I think that the social cohesion can exist under both the scenario Tim laid out and in one that is sort of a fair play, provided it's actually enforced that way. 0.96

02:27:58.000 But obviously, power corrupts and absolute power.

02:28:02.000 Did you want to.

02:28:04.000 I'm going to ask the caller if you want to follow up on anything, if you had anything to add to.

02:28:09.000 Well, one thought is with the census being done in 2030, when that is redone after all these illegal immigrants get pushed out, or at least the amount that we've seen not come in anymore, some that are being pushed out, not quite enough, but could it affect the cultural marketplace,

02:28:39.000 is the real question.

02:28:41.000 Would it have a beneficial effect or really no effect?

02:28:44.000 On the cultural marketplace?

02:28:47.000 Well, look, the more representation you have in government, the more power you can exert on institutions.

02:28:53.000 The more power the institutions exert downstream on the citizens who interact with them, the more it permeates.

02:28:59.000 I mean, this is how leftist ideology permeated.

02:29:01.000 You know, you had basically like leftist governments and leftist laws pumping up power into leftist institutions like the universities.

02:29:09.000 Every student goes through the universities, they come out this cookie cutter, sort of brainwashed, you know, NPC zombie, and then they vote accordingly.

02:29:16.000 And the same process works in In reverse, which is why, you know, there's kind of a depression that set in on Democrats, I think, post election, as there was a kind of blitzkrieg from Trump on a lot of these areas in the second term.

02:29:33.000 So I do think it does possible, but it is possible, but it is a slow march through the institutions that takes years and decades to really come to fruition.

02:29:42.000 But I'm happy to see that on many of those fronts, the first steps in that slow march are underway.

02:29:51.000 All right.

02:29:52.000 Makes sense to me.

02:29:53.000 You want to shout anything out?

02:29:55.000 Just the Discord.

02:29:57.000 Discord is a great place to be.

02:29:58.000 If people aren't in it, they should be.

02:30:00.000 It's good for conversation and whatnot.

02:30:03.000 But another shout out to your local church, wherever that might be.

02:30:07.000 It's good to go get some community connections, get in the word.

02:30:12.000 And that's about it.

02:30:16.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:30:17.000 Thanks, man.

02:30:17.000 Cheers, bud.

02:30:20.000 All right.

02:30:20.000 Next up, we've got Davida23.

02:30:24.000 Davida, what up?

02:30:28.000 Good talk, Davida.

02:30:30.000 Yeah, I thought so.

02:30:31.000 Going once, Davida.

02:30:32.000 You are muted.

02:30:33.000 It's your big moment, dude.

02:30:36.000 Come on, Davida.

02:30:36.000 Are you there?

02:30:37.000 All right, we'll come back to you.

02:30:38.000 We'll come back. 0.98

02:30:39.000 Whoa, what the heck? 0.52

02:30:41.000 What just happened? 1.00

02:30:42.000 Davida's like, shit, shit, shit. 1.00

02:30:46.000 Muted. 1.00

02:30:47.000 We're being spun around by Discord.

02:30:49.000 Yeah, Discord just.

02:30:50.000 Oh, maybe it was Discord and wasn't Davida this whole time.

02:30:52.000 What the hell is this?

02:30:53.000 Centralized service.

02:30:54.000 I've never seen that before.

02:30:55.000 Me neither.

02:30:56.000 A thing popped up saying, Did you know?

02:30:56.000 Some kind of loafing.

02:30:58.000 You can press up to edit your messages and it's just gone.

02:31:01.000 Sorry about gaslighting you, Davida.

02:31:05.000 It was actually us who were like silent.

02:31:08.000 Maybe Discord went down?

02:31:10.000 I just closed it and reopened it.

02:31:11.000 It's still, yeah, it's still.

02:31:11.000 It's gone.

02:31:13.000 Wait, the chat's still going, right?

02:31:16.000 Yeah, it looks like it.

02:31:18.000 Oh, Davida, what were you going to ask?

02:31:21.000 It was going to be the most profound and important question of all time.

02:31:23.000 Yeah, it was.

02:31:24.000 Yeah.

02:31:26.000 Let me see if I can do it on my phone.

02:31:28.000 I can wait.

02:31:29.000 Hold your phone up.

02:31:31.000 Discord.

02:31:34.000 All right.

02:31:34.000 I'm acid or DMT?

02:31:37.000 K-Son or Thought Daughter?

02:31:39.000 Sorry.

02:31:39.000 K-Son or Thought Daughter?

02:31:42.000 Drugs. 0.87

02:31:43.000 Thought Daughter?

02:31:43.000 To this day, it's a stove.

02:31:44.000 I rebooted it.

02:31:46.000 We're back in.

02:31:46.000 Oh, there we go.

02:31:47.000 That was weird.

02:31:48.000 And we'll go with Teabag and Elite.

02:31:50.000 There you go.

02:31:51.000 What's up?

02:31:51.000 Teabag and Elite.

02:31:54.000 Can you hear me?

02:31:55.000 Yes.

02:31:55.000 All right.

02:31:59.000 First off, Mike, every time you mention the government as the blob, I just picture J.D. Pritzker or Chris Christie.

02:32:06.000 Stop.

02:32:06.000 God.

02:32:08.000 But no, my question is for the whole panel How long do you think it's going to be until race relations normalize back to pre Obama era?

02:32:19.000 Or do you think we're already too far gone with this?

02:32:22.000 No, I think the extremes are louder.

02:32:24.000 It's something you said on the main show earlier.

02:32:26.000 You know, 20 or 30 years ago, racists couldn't get a hold of a microphone to make a public statement. 1.00

02:32:31.000 No one would allow it because they were ridiculous, retarded, and short sighted. 0.99

02:32:35.000 So I think it's just, you know, keep being your best self. 1.00

02:32:39.000 We're inevitably blending as a global culture.

02:32:41.000 One way or another.

02:32:42.000 Well, like the most negative and extreme things get the most attention on the internet.

02:32:45.000 That'll like naturally kind of.

02:32:47.000 And I'm not, I don't necessarily think that the internet is like the exact same thing as real life.

02:32:53.000 But maybe this is blackmailing.

02:32:55.000 I feel like it's gotten to a point like when you have literally elected officials being like, he didn't do nothing.

02:33:01.000 That to me is pretty far gone.

02:33:04.000 I don't like to tell people how old I am, but like I don't really remember what it was like pre Obama.

02:33:10.000 So I literally, my whole adulthood was defined by.

02:33:13.000 Modern day race relations.

02:33:15.000 I don't really know anything else. 0.61

02:33:17.000 Obviously, my interpersonal life, I'm super chill.

02:33:19.000 It was great.

02:33:20.000 It was great.

02:33:20.000 Everything was so good in the 90s.

02:33:22.000 It was like just the world was perfect in every single way.

02:33:25.000 People were racist, but it was taboo.

02:33:28.000 I've talked to black friends about this, and I'm like, I didn't notice anything, but then I would be told, Well, you didn't notice it, but so and so's grandmother came in and she would talk to me differently than she talked to you guys.

02:33:40.000 It's like, I don't. 0.72

02:33:41.000 It's definitely gotten. 1.00

02:33:42.000 I grew up in an area that was all mixed race.

02:33:45.000 The area that I was in.

02:33:46.000 Was largely like white.

02:33:48.000 There was a lot of Polish immigrants.

02:33:50.000 So Movimi Popolsku was on every single building.

02:33:52.000 Then there was a lot of Hispanic. 0.97

02:33:54.000 And if you crossed Cicero, it was all Hispanic. 1.00

02:33:55.000 If you crossed Forty Summit, it was all black. 0.99

02:33:57.000 But for the most part, we hung out.

02:33:58.000 We all got along.

02:33:59.000 And so it was like this McDonald's commercial of diversity where, you know, my boy Andy, he works here.

02:34:07.000 He used to just call everybody by their racial slur.

02:34:09.000 Was it that?

02:34:10.000 It's like Eric Cartman almost.

02:34:11.000 Was it that people didn't really think about their race that much or they were just like more normal about it? 0.56

02:34:15.000 Quite literally, Andy would call the Mexican kids Spick and call me Goo. 0.99

02:34:19.000 And we would all laugh about it. 1.00

02:34:20.000 It was fun.

02:34:20.000 But it wasn't like beyond that, it was just like, haha, and then that was it.

02:34:23.000 Yeah, like there was no actual consideration for anyone's race being bad.

02:34:26.000 Sure.

02:34:27.000 It was like we were all kind of raised by George Carlin.

02:34:29.000 Yeah, I think the issues is the cultural discohesion because it's not about what your skin color is. 0.79

02:34:33.000 It's do you practice a different religion?

02:34:35.000 Do you eat children at night? 0.72

02:34:37.000 Do you drink blood?

02:34:38.000 Do you, what time of day do you wear?

02:34:40.000 I think a lot of people are very sensitive now.

02:34:42.000 Maybe they used to, yeah, that's sensitive.

02:34:44.000 I remember when I was in elementary school, like you, Tim, I had a lot of friends from different backgrounds.

02:34:49.000 And like we had different food at lunch, but like that was kind of it.

02:34:52.000 We would just like go to class and be friends and whatever.

02:34:55.000 Where did you grow up?

02:34:56.000 I'm from California.

02:34:56.000 San Jose.

02:34:57.000 Oh, wow.

02:34:58.000 So a lot of Hispanic, a lot of Asian, a lot of white.

02:34:58.000 Yeah.

02:35:02.000 So I was there and I think it was 2015.

02:35:04.000 I actually filmed the video of the dude getting bashed in the head with a bag of rocks.

02:35:07.000 If you guys have seen that one in San Jose, and then he's bleeding from the ear.

02:35:12.000 It's pretty wild because I'm curious.

02:35:13.000 Like you were then, like you would have been 13 years old.

02:35:16.000 I was in eighth grade.

02:35:18.000 You're probably completely oblivious to this stuff, right?

02:35:19.000 Yeah, I mean, it was like the Trump stuff that really got me looped into politics.

02:35:23.000 And again, I was like 14 years old when that was happening.

02:35:26.000 So I was by no means like keeping up.

02:35:29.000 But that was really like my whole political awareness was defined by the Trump era, like post Obama race relations. 0.99

02:35:35.000 Damn. 0.99

02:35:36.000 It was, yeah. 1.00

02:35:37.000 So it's only gone downhill since.

02:35:39.000 Maybe that's why I'm so cynical.

02:35:41.000 In the 90s, there are no phones. 0.99

02:35:42.000 So, like, when I was a kid, you'd say something stupid and nothing bad would happen. 0.99

02:35:45.000 Well, true. 0.99

02:35:46.000 But here's what happened it would be like Saturday.

02:35:49.000 I'd wake up and I'd run to the kitchen to grab the cinnamon toast crunch before my brother could because I'm annihilating that whole box.

02:35:55.000 Like, if my brother woke up before me, it's gone.

02:35:58.000 Then we would watch Pokemon and Static Shock on the.

02:36:01.000 No, that was actually Sunday.

02:36:03.000 Saturday morning cartoons was like X Men and Spider Man.

02:36:07.000 Then it's like maybe 10 a.m.

02:36:09.000 I'm like, let's go see what my friends are doing.

02:36:11.000 So I'd walk across the alley to Jason and James' house, knock on the door, and their mom would open the door and she'd be like, hey, how's it going?

02:36:19.000 And I'd be like, are Jason and James home?

02:36:21.000 And they'd be like, no, they're out playing somewhere.

02:36:23.000 And I go, guess I'll never see them.

02:36:24.000 And then I just leave.

02:36:25.000 Now's it.

02:36:26.000 I used to play outside with my neighbor.

02:36:28.000 But yeah, beyond that, I remember we walked around the block once.

02:36:32.000 We were gone for like maybe eight minutes, and our parents had called.

02:36:34.000 Police.

02:36:35.000 They were like, they got killed.

02:36:35.000 What?

02:36:36.000 Well, we live next to kind of a sketchy neighborhood, I would say.

02:36:39.000 I live next to Leclerc courts.

02:36:41.000 That's just like, that was just like the era that we grew up in.

02:36:44.000 That was not a normal experience.

02:36:46.000 My parents would be sitting inside and they'd be like, go outside and play.

02:36:51.000 And we'd be like, we don't want to be like, you're grounded from the house.

02:36:53.000 And they would walk us outside and close the door and say, come back when the streetlights come on.

02:36:56.000 We'd be outside all day.

02:36:57.000 We had to stay, like, they would keep the door open.

02:36:59.000 So we had to be within distance.

02:37:01.000 They just didn't want to lose track of us.

02:37:03.000 But yeah.

02:37:03.000 That's crazy.

02:37:04.000 Yeah.

02:37:05.000 See, I, I, Again, it may be my bubble, but I actually think, okay, like there's a tendency, like this is like my complaint, like with the ADL, right?

02:37:15.000 Anti Semitism is always going up, it's always at an all time high.

02:37:18.000 Okay, well, when was it as you ask, like Greenblet, when was it at its lowest?

02:37:23.000 And they can't tell you because that would be to concede that there was a year that it was not.

02:37:27.000 And there's like a similar thing that I think is a sentiment where it's like, okay, things are always getting worse, no matter, like, and oftentimes they do for many years consecutively on end.

02:37:36.000 But like when I take stock of where we are right now versus where we were a couple years ago, Like, you look at this Carmelo Anthony thing, and I'm like weirdly white pilled about it when I see it because I don't see any institutional cover for it. 0.99

02:37:48.000 I see Jasmine Crockett, who is a fucking psycho and has no credibility. 0.98

02:37:52.000 I don't see Chuck Schumer endorsing it. 1.00

02:37:54.000 I don't see any system Democrats endorsing it.

02:37:55.000 I don't even see Graham Plattner and like, you know, the tanky left endorsing it.

02:37:59.000 Hassan Piker got like suspended on Twitch for saying the word cracker.

02:38:02.000 Like, I mean, things have changed a lot about this.

02:38:05.000 The DOJ is currently indicting the SPLC, and like, and Harmie Dillon is cracking down on everything.

02:38:13.000 Anyone who does like workplace discrimination.

02:38:15.000 The Washington Post is fucking apoplectic about America First legal for basically forcing the Fortune 500 to enforce like colorblind meritocracy on these things.

02:38:24.000 And you don't, and because of that pressure that we've now exerted against those abuses, you don't see institutional top cover for this, for these Carmelo Anthony type things. 0.89

02:38:34.000 I think I agree with you on the institutional level, but I think among, again, among Gen Z younger people, I think that racism is on the rise.

02:38:45.000 I think that it's becoming more normal.

02:38:47.000 And it might be just that I see more white people being racist than I ever have because generally white people, like especially Gen X, right?

02:38:55.000 Like I'm 51.

02:38:57.000 So, like, to be like the idea of.

02:38:59.000 Great for 51.

02:39:00.000 Thank you very much.

02:39:02.000 The idea of, you know, just hurling slurs around online or wherever, it's like that just wasn't.

02:39:11.000 That was overcorrected.

02:39:12.000 Okay.

02:39:12.000 I'm 41.

02:39:13.000 We were pretty racially slurry. 0.99

02:39:13.000 I'm 40. 0.99

02:39:15.000 I'm 47.

02:39:17.000 I think that kids are just attracted to the most provocative thing that they're not supposed to do.

02:39:22.000 Sure.

02:39:22.000 And when that was the case for like 10 years, I think it's a natural overcorrection.

02:39:26.000 It's not just that go to any skate park and it is just youth culture to say nigga. 0.99

02:39:31.000 Like, you go to a skate park and you will see white kids, Hispanic kids, and black kids all skating together, and the white kid will be like, damn nigga, that hard flip's sick. 0.99

02:39:40.000 And the guys will be like, yeah, and they're gonna fist bump. 1.00

02:39:41.000 There's just no question about sex in the 90s.

02:39:44.000 I think that. 0.73

02:39:45.000 But I think, like, the idea of admitting that you're a white identitarian, right? 0.60

02:39:51.000 That was different.

02:39:53.000 Oh, now there's people building whole careers on it.

02:39:54.000 Yeah, that was never a thing in the 90s.

02:39:57.000 Like, it was.

02:39:58.000 Like, I was, you know, I came from like the metal underground and there was a lot of hardcore bands and there were some skinhead bands and stuff that we were aware of.

02:40:06.000 They never got shows.

02:40:07.000 They, oh, they had to rent out the VFW themselves and they had their own shows.

02:40:12.000 They were not integrated with the rest of the scene.

02:40:16.000 They were completely and totally on their own and there wasn't a lot of them.

02:40:20.000 Like, those shows were, it was the bands watching the other bands and maybe 10 other people.

02:40:25.000 And that stuff just was, it was completely verbose.

02:40:28.000 Nowadays, it is completely normal to hear, to, to, Log on to the internet, and this is again, this is new, and see tons of posts from people that are self avowed white identitarians.

02:40:41.000 But if they're a creator, I think they'll have a hard time.

02:40:44.000 They're usually really cringe. 1.00

02:40:45.000 People that say that stupid, like, first order, different than me, evil, bad, wrong. 1.00

02:40:51.000 I saw a picture of a black guy, therefore, black people do things. 1.00

02:40:53.000 Bro, look at Nick Fuentes. 0.97

02:40:56.000 He may not be as trolly as he used to be, but he's definitely a white identitarian. 0.64

02:41:02.000 Yeah. 0.90

02:41:03.000 We do got to try and get more callers.

02:41:04.000 And, Collar, did you want to add anything or shout anything out?

02:41:09.000 I had a request and wanted to shout out my YouTube channel.

02:41:13.000 Just go to Teabag and Elite if you want to see the guitars that I'm building.

02:41:16.000 But my request is for the musicians in the room if you guys, I'm almost done with my nephew's bass that I'm building, and next I want to get started on that Timcast bass that I've been talking about forever and I haven't got a chance to start on.

02:41:31.000 I'm going to start cutting the pieces tomorrow.

02:41:33.000 Sick.

02:41:35.000 If you guys would come up.

02:41:37.000 With some guitar designs, try to stay away from Fender because Fender's getting very litigious here recently.

02:41:43.000 Oh, yeah.

02:41:45.000 But if you guys could come up with some guitar designs and maybe, you know, since Ian's kind of the beloved sacrificial lamb, have him like message me on the Discord of what you guys come up with, and I will do that to the body shape.

02:42:01.000 How complicated are you making it three dimensional?

02:42:04.000 Like, because I'm picturing like, anyway, dude, yeah, yeah, like the grandfather.

02:42:08.000 If you can do a 3D model, that would.

02:42:10.000 Only limitations are going to be that my tabletop planer is 13 inches wide, and the upper wing is going to be 21 inches in length from the back of the body to the end of the horn, and the bottom part of the body is 18 inches.

02:42:29.000 So, no explorers then.

02:42:32.000 No, no explorers. 0.99

02:42:33.000 I fucking hate explorers. 0.99

02:42:34.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

02:42:36.000 They have, especially in a base, they have so much neck dive. 0.78

02:42:41.000 It feels like you just jerked off with the wrong arm for hours. 0.91

02:42:45.000 I agree.

02:42:46.000 Do you have any kind of like schematic or something you could send over and we can like use that?

02:42:50.000 Yeah, well, how about is it too much for me to constantly say ask Olivia and she can help facilitate the conversation?

02:42:57.000 Yeah, that works too. 0.86

02:42:59.000 Like I can send some things over to her and just with the pieces because what I'm thinking is a cherry body.

02:43:06.000 I've got walnut, maple, and cherry and I just go.

02:43:08.000 This is a long conversation.

02:43:10.000 So let's just ask Olivia if she can help facilitate this and then do you want to shout out your channel?

02:43:16.000 Yep, just teabagging elite on YouTube, and I will be posting videos of the things that I'm building.

02:43:22.000 Are you an elite guy that teabags, or are you teabagging elites?

02:43:27.000 I got other callers.

02:43:28.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:43:29.000 Thanks, man.

02:43:31.000 Next time.

02:43:31.000 We'll catch y'all later.

02:43:33.000 All right.

02:43:34.000 We got next up, Kronos5905.

02:43:38.000 I'm Kronos.

02:43:40.000 Hi.

02:43:40.000 Thanks for having me.

02:43:42.000 So, my question is what do we do now?

02:43:46.000 Because I'm a black guy, and this has been kind of crazy for me to live through.

02:43:52.000 Because.

02:43:53.000 It's a difficult situation, and I've been thinking about the cost of this for a long time.

02:44:00.000 But now I think we really need to focus on what we do about it.

02:44:03.000 I look at people's eyes, man.

02:44:05.000 I was making YouTube videos for a decade about this, just looking at people's eyeballs. 0.78

02:44:08.000 You see past their skin color. 0.91

02:44:10.000 I mean, you just got to be the light, you got to be different than other people, be direct, be a human. 0.74

02:44:15.000 You know, I like all the identitarianism that's emerging around the Carmelo Anthony stuff gets me really angry because when I see people commenting on, like a black dude, that video, we pulled it short, but he goes, Ain't none of you gonna go kill a man.

02:44:27.000 I'm talking to you. 0.93

02:44:28.000 Like he's telling people to go kill people. 1.00

02:44:30.000 And in response to this, people post a bunch of anti black shit, like racist shit. 1.00

02:44:35.000 And that pisses me off because that's not the issue. 1.00

02:44:38.000 And white identitarians, white nationalists, and general racists are like, oh, it actually is. 0.97

02:44:42.000 No, it's not. 1.00

02:44:43.000 No, it's fucking not. 0.99

02:44:44.000 And I hate to have to bring up their names to say this, but Thomas, keep Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas out your mouth. 0.99

02:44:50.000 Those guys are some of the best Americans we've ever had.

02:44:52.000 And Clarence Thomas may be the only one, well, one of the two or three guys who's gonna save this country.

02:44:57.000 Race isn't the issue.

02:44:58.000 It is a culture built around a racial identity, which can exist in any group. 0.99

02:45:02.000 So I can agree that these people who have built a black identity and are violent and believe they should get away with murder and stuff, that's a problem. 0.95

02:45:09.000 But the blanket racism just pisses me off. 0.94

02:45:12.000 So, how do we fix it?

02:45:13.000 That's the question. 0.98

02:45:14.000 I don't fucking know, man. 0.99

02:45:15.000 People are surface level. 1.00

02:45:16.000 And George Carlin said, think about how stupid the average person is. 1.00

02:45:19.000 Now realize half of them are stupider than that. 1.00

02:45:21.000 These are people who are going to see a video of a black guy punch a white guy and they're going to get mad at all black people. 1.00

02:45:27.000 And I blame the left for this largely. 0.99

02:45:30.000 This is the goal of the left. 0.76

02:45:32.000 This is the idea of awakening a critical racial consciousness.

02:45:39.000 Jordan Peterson said it.

02:45:41.000 It's like there's going to be some portion of the people that you awaken a racial consciousness in that are going to say, okay, I don't feel bad because I personally didn't do it.

02:45:51.000 So I'm going to try and win.

02:45:52.000 And those are the people that they're going to say, well, you're a white identitarian and you're not saying I'm sorry for it.

02:45:59.000 You're not feeling the guilt.

02:46:02.000 You're not accepting that.

02:46:03.000 So you're the bad guy. 0.52

02:46:06.000 So, in my view, there's always going to be, in a democracy, a multiracial democracy, there's always going to be a racial lobby, formal or informal, that evolves to represent the interests that are perceived as being not sufficiently represented. 0.83

02:46:25.000 And that lobby will, to varying extents, aggressively try to maximize its own interests.

02:46:33.000 And that, I think, is playing out at the city level, plays out at the national level.

02:46:38.000 There's There's lobbies for every ethnic group at this point, effectively.

02:46:44.000 And there's sort of now an informal white lobby that is beginning to sort of take shape, not as a formal organized lobby, but as a sort of thing that candidates will sort of appeal to in dog whistles or in various sort of things or whatever. 0.50

02:46:59.000 But in my view, just because racial identity is an immutable characteristic that can't be changed, and there is an inevitable sort of scorecard.

02:47:11.000 That happens in the head of people about their identity versus other people's identities. 0.51

02:47:16.000 The goal is like a perfect world is not getting that down to zero and there never being flare ups and there never being like occasional rocky times.

02:47:24.000 It's just getting it down to like a cohesive, manageable level where things are relatively cool.

02:47:30.000 And one of the things that I think is so interesting about this, because I spend most of my day in the NGO plex and in like intelligence records and government documents and the like.

02:47:41.000 And one of the things that I find really interesting about like racial disharmony is that it has been for 70 years now. 0.73

02:47:51.000 Formally weaponized as part of our influence programs.

02:47:55.000 Like, I did a 12 hour stream series on what I called the Pentagon's racial Rena riots.

02:47:59.000 And I went around, I just went through dozens of declassified documents and guidebooks from the Pentagon and the CIA about how to go to countries' minority groups and angry them up against a majority in.

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