On this episode of Thrashing Thursdays, host Alad El-Kadhi and co-host Marylin Morgan discuss the latest in the Trump administration, including the latest on the White House Correspondent's Dinner, the possibility of a new administration, and much, much more.
00:01:11.000Donald Trump has looked to a point, have gotten in, the notable exception being a friend of the show, Matt Gaetz.
00:01:19.000But it looks like the primary people that Donald Trump has been looking to push forward, looks like he's going to get the cabinet of his choice.
00:01:28.000So we're going to talk about that tonight.
00:01:32.000There's talk about Donald Trump wanting to abolish the IRS and replacing it with tariffs, which I think is generally looked at as favorable among most of the people that are sitting around the table.
00:02:01.000So there's the Doge dividend, which has actually gotten a lot of people talking on my personal Twitter page.
00:02:08.000I made a comment about it, and there's a lot of people with a lot of strong feelings about that as well.
00:02:14.000Then there's some international news with Donald Trump talking to Vladimir.
00:02:18.000Well, I don't think actually Donald Trump's doing it, but there's, I believe it was the Secretary of State in, was it UAE? Or is it Saudi Arabia?
00:02:29.000I'm not sure where, but it's somewhere in the Middle East hosting the discussion between Russia and the U.S. about Ukraine and the policies that the United States are changing.
00:02:43.000There's going to be a reverse on them.
00:02:45.000There's discussions about who's going to be taking care of Ukraine's security and will the...
00:02:57.000I believe Macron is going to Ukraine on Monday to discuss this, and France has said that they will pick up a large portion of it, so we'll get to that.
00:03:06.000But before we get into that, how about if you head on over to castbrew.com and buy some coffee?
00:03:15.000We're going to go ahead and bring that up in a second.
00:05:56.000But CNN is reporting the Senate voted on Thursday to confirm Kash Patel as FBI director, installing a staunch loyalist of President Donald Trump and conservative firebrand at the head of the nation's top law enforcement agency.
00:06:08.000The Senate voted 51 to 49 to confirm Patel with Republican Senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski joining with Democrats in voting against his confirmation, which should come as a surprise to no one.
00:06:21.000Collins and Murkowski are from purple districts, I think is a safe way to say, but they're also very independent-minded, so maybe even if they're not specifically Democrat-leaning, they're definitely independent and they have their own opinions.
00:06:39.000I think that around the table, we're all generally pro-Cash Patel.
00:06:47.000Making changes in the bureaucracy and the FBI has had significant political bias in the past, definitely four years, probably longer if you want to go back to the IRS. Well, that's the IRS doing it, but the IRS should have been investigated by the FBI. Eric Holder, the AG, decided, declined to investigate the IRS targeting of conservatives.
00:07:21.000I'm loving the change in D.C. I'm loving the fact that Democrats are getting exactly what they caused.
00:07:28.000They think that politics happens in a vacuum.
00:07:30.000I can't believe Donald Trump would ever appoint someone like Kash Patel.
00:07:33.000And I'm sitting back here thinking to myself, if you guys hadn't acted the way you did over the last decade, you wouldn't have gotten many of these nominees.
00:07:41.000But if Donald Trump has shown one thing, it's that the harder you push against him, the harder he's going to push back.
00:07:45.000And Kash Patel is the, I would say, the strongest force forward for Donald Trump.
00:07:50.000And I can't wait to see what he puts out first, what he thinks is the most important.
00:08:22.000They're interested in possibly in UFO stuff, but I'm not sure that the FBI would have info on the UFO stuff.
00:08:29.000Do you guys get the sense that that's the stuff that's going to have the most impact on Americans generally?
00:08:36.000I understand that there are people that are extremely interested in this stuff and there are people that want to see the if you go to Epstein Island and you rape kids.
00:08:45.000I know a lot of people like, yeah, we want to see these people punished.
00:08:47.000And absolutely, I'm not in any way saying that that's not a valuable use of government resources.
00:08:55.000When you hear people talk about Epstein Island or the JFK files, do those things actually have the most tangible effect on an American's day-to-day life?
00:09:08.000Or do you think that there are other things?
00:09:10.000Because it's my sense that the FBI's biggest...
00:09:13.000The things that the FBI have done that are the most egregious are when they were targeting people that pray outside of abortion clinics or when they were targeting parents that were going to school, you know.
00:09:30.000In teacher meetings and saying that they're likely terrorists because they're worried about what their children are being taught.
00:09:36.000When they were targeting J6ers that were, granted there were J6ers that did things that maybe they should have been looked into, but most of the vast majority of the people that were arrested and had charges, those people were doing things that are constitutionally protected.
00:10:33.000I mean, we did a lot of work on school boards on Long Island.
00:10:36.000And just to know that there were people out there from the FBI checking people's license plates because overzealous PTA moms yelled at people over masks and over curriculum.
00:10:48.000That's terrifying to me, particularly when, look, there are bad people in this country.
00:11:03.000You know, there's so much stuff that they could be doing.
00:11:06.000Just revert that, and I think that's what Cash has talked a lot about, putting them out in the field and making them actual cops again, arresting actual bad guys.
00:11:12.000Phil, I think you're right that it's hyper-partisan to appeal to, like, we're going to uncover who's on the Epstein flight logs, and we're going to tell you about Diddy, like, what's on the Diddy tapes?
00:11:24.000Like, that's hyper-partisan, but it's also chronically online.
00:11:28.000Like, normies don't think or care about those things.
00:11:33.000And something I've noticed, I think, ever since the election is that there's been a lot more reporting on school shootings and school shooting plots.
00:11:42.000Not only ones that ended up being executed, but ones that were stopped.
00:12:14.000Would you articulate what you mean by grooming?
00:12:17.000Do you think that the FBI is actually involved in trying to...
00:12:21.000I mean, they're interested in convicting people, and to do that, I think they want to get into contact with these people online.
00:12:29.000Probably radicalize them, but also get them to say incriminating things so that they can, you know, stop the crime that they were planning, which they never would have planned in the first place had it not been for the influence of federal agents who are contacting them.
00:12:42.000I mean, it wouldn't be the first time that's happening.
00:12:44.000And also offering to supply them with illegal firearms.
00:12:47.000Well, we saw that at things like Ruby Ridge.
00:12:49.000We saw that at the Gretchen Whitmer plot where, like, what, nine out of the 12 guys were FBI agents.
00:12:55.000So if they spent a little bit more time, even...
00:13:00.000No one to the FBI. Alright, well then maybe you should put three people on them and leave the school boards alone and then maybe we could stop to foil those plots.
00:13:08.000Maybe we could get those obviously very sick kids help before the plot gets brought into fruition.
00:13:16.000I just feel like the allocation of the resources of the FBI have been so used in the wrong way.
00:13:23.000Can they stop infiltrating right-wing groups?
00:13:35.000So in response to that, there's something that I've been mentioning on the show lately, and that's that we kind of live in a meilu of leftism, right?
00:13:44.000And that the air that we breathe is steeped in leftist ideology.
00:13:52.000When you hear, oh, the left is infiltrating right-wing organizations, the knee-jerk idea of right-wing, for normies at least, is bad.
00:14:05.000There's an association of right is evil.
00:14:09.000I think that if we do see a change at the FBI in that kind of demeanor, I think that that would be a very good thing for the United States.
00:14:21.000An organization like Oath Keepers, unless they've actually done something, the only thing they're saying is we're going to keep our oath to the Constitution.
00:14:32.000The whole premise is we're going to abide by the law.
00:14:36.000And so to conflate that with knee-jerk evil, or even the left has managed to make a significant portion of the United States associate the word patriot with something negative.
00:14:52.000And it's so, you know, we've been talking a lot about this over the last several weeks, not only with the FBI, but with all the non-profit stuff that goes on.
00:15:00.000You know, organizations like the ACLU, organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center.
00:15:04.000I'm on a Southern Poverty Law Center list.
00:15:06.000And to me, I'm just like, I don't know what I did to get on it.
00:15:09.000I don't know why I'm on it, but I've been denied jobs because of this stuff.
00:15:18.000So I want to know, I know Josh Hawley has talked about this with the SPLC, like figuring out where they're getting their funding from, who's paying for this, how much of it's coming from a, for example, a USAID that gets funneled through a non-profit that goes to an NGO that goes to another non-profit.
00:15:33.000That stuff, if the FBI was really going to look into that, figuring out why it is that a non-profit...
00:15:38.000Tied to Stacey Abrams, somehow got $2 billion.
00:15:41.000If the FBI wanted to investigate those sorts of financial crimes, I think that that would go a long way in stopping that machine that you're talking about from just equating right-wing with bad, no matter what.
00:15:52.000I mean, the way they smear people, just, oh, he's on the right, like a Rogan or Tim or anybody, and it's like, no, they're not.
00:16:17.000That I have been making is because of the fact that we're so steeped in leftism.
00:16:21.000Anyone that's not left is immediately associated with the right.
00:16:24.000So that's why the discourse between Elon Musk or about Elon Musk and Ashley St. Clair and stuff, people can have their opinions about that situation, but they're considered right wing.
00:16:37.000And then the conservative right was like, well, these people shouldn't be right.
00:16:41.000And it's like, well, they're not really right.
00:16:58.000And I think the not left is a lot of people, a lot of people come on this show who just go, you know what?
00:17:05.000I don't know what that is, but I don't want anything to do with that, so this is my only option.
00:17:09.000My point is that it's not the left infiltrating those right-wing groups, or even...
00:17:15.000Groups that are unequivocally identified as neo-Nazi groups.
00:17:19.000It is the FBI. And the way I see it, the FBI has been engaged in criminal behavior against the American people, so they're not going to investigate themselves.
00:17:30.000They're not going to incriminate themselves.
00:17:39.000And I don't disagree with that, but if we do live in a milieu of leftism, just the FBI saying, oh, we're going to investigate, that means that it is kind of the left investigating, isn't it?
00:18:07.000It was the left investigating the right.
00:18:10.000When you had guys like Eric Holder say that he was Barack Obama's wingman, and now this CNN article, loyalist to Trump, I'm sitting there going, where were you?
00:18:19.000And that's why you talk about the milieu, and it's so—watching it change in real time over the course of the last month, no leader on the left.
00:18:29.000They have no idea which way is up, and that's why we're getting some of the most ridiculous things ever, like Margaret Brennan saying that— And I'm like, what high school textbook did you read?
00:18:43.000Because you could go back to sixth grade, but because they have existed so long as the norm, when they are actually the far left, they can't see that they are losing the world to the center.
00:18:54.000I think the big questions around Kash Patel is how he's actually going to run the FBI and who he's going to choose to go after.
00:19:03.000And I think how we could tell this stuff is actually what he came up on.
00:19:06.000So he sort of got his MAGA bona fides in the Nunez memo where he helped explain and debunk different alleged Trump-Russian collusion that didn't really exist.
00:19:57.000But I know he has a lot of bluster when he's on Steve Bannon's war room, but I don't truly believe he would actually run the FBI like that.
00:20:06.000Once you have to get confirmed and get in a position of power, a lot of different things change.
00:20:11.000So, you know, things are different once you're out of the job.
00:20:15.000Once you were in it, after you got the backing of people like Bannon.
00:20:19.000So is it your sense that he was not saying that he was saying things that he doesn't believe, but he would...
00:20:24.000Do you think that when he was in partisan or on partisan podcasts, he was kind of playing to the audience?
00:22:49.000We've lived in leftism for so long that if we actually ran things down the middle, the left would accuse us of going after them because they have basically run free for so long.
00:23:01.000When the media goes on TV... Wait, would you like to see retribution out of Cash Bechel?
00:23:05.000No, but when he goes after someone who libels, when he goes after somebody who slanders somebody, when he goes after a media entity for just making things up about...
00:23:14.000Average citizens, it is going to feel like the DOJ is going after the media when really they should have been doing it all along.
00:23:20.000It's not just going to feel like that.
00:23:22.000That's the narrative that you're going to hear.
00:23:24.000Any type of government action against a politician You know, they're going to characterize it as if it's politically motivated.
00:23:35.000This is just Donald Trump coming after me.
00:23:38.000Look, he said retribution, etc., etc., because they want to get the public on their side.
00:23:43.000And there's a portion of the public, possibly a sizable portion, a plurality, that will side with them no matter the evidence, no matter how damning the evidence is.
00:23:54.000I mean, just take an Adam Schiff, right?
00:23:55.000Let's say Adam Schiff's been out there lying, making things up.
00:24:13.000I agree with you, Schiff will say that, but Schiff, I'm pretty sure he was censured as well.
00:24:17.000So, I mean, everybody knows that Schiff is as shifty as it gets.
00:24:23.000That was just one example, but there's so many of them.
00:24:25.000Like, if a media outlet goes after somebody and makes something up, and they're sued, and the DOJ goes after them, and they've actually done something wrong.
00:24:34.000Everyone is now going to say, look, we told you this was going to happen.
00:24:37.000We told you Donald Trump was going to come after his enemies, when really they're actually just calling balls and strikes.
00:24:42.000But for the longest time, the umpire was betting on one team.
00:24:46.000I guess, do you think he should be going after Trump's perceived enemies as retribute?
00:25:15.000I am of the opinion that the left is already going to be so partisan.
00:25:21.000We know that the left has what they will do because they tried to do it to Trump.
00:25:27.000They've already imprisoned their political opponents, their people based on politics.
00:25:32.000The whole January 6th was all because of politics.
00:25:35.000They've used the government against parents that would defy the...
00:25:42.000You know, the Department of Education or what have you, the LGBT stuff in schools, parents that would go and protest that and they'd have the FBI look at them.
00:25:52.000They've put people that have committed no crime.
00:25:55.000Onto the Quiet Skies list, which is essentially a no-fly list or extra screening, basically making it a hassle to do things.
00:26:03.000And I'm referring to Tulsi Gabbard, and she was a lieutenant colonel in the reserve, so it's not just someone...
00:26:36.000That kind of scrutiny based on politics is the standard for the Democrats.
00:26:42.000So while I think you're right that we shouldn't, I don't want to see the Republicans do it, I don't think that we have a new crop of Democrats that aren't going to behave differently, that are going to behave differently.
00:26:52.000Why don't you want to see the Republicans behave that way?
00:26:56.000Because I want to see an actually legitimate government.
00:26:59.000Because the things that they went after Republicans for, they didn't actually commit crimes.
00:27:07.000So if there's no crime, then I don't want the government going after people.
00:27:35.000The DOJ just awarded some Antifa guy $7 million in Portland.
00:27:39.000He threw a grenade at a cop, but, sure enough, he threw an explosive at a police officer.
00:27:44.000They turned around and, you know, did what you would expect they were going to do, and then ended up...
00:27:50.000For $7 million, please, come beat me up.
00:27:53.000I think it's easy to talk in abstracts, but if we get specific, for example, do you think Kash Patel should investigate former President Joe Biden, for example, for maybe, what was the exact line, 10%?
00:28:21.000I don't want them to look at the person and find the crime.
00:28:26.000I mean, the fact that Republicans slow-walked this 10% for the big guy and the money coming from the Moscow mayor and all the Kazakhstan stuff, and the fact that they slow-walked that for four years so that they had talking points to run on rather than actually pursuing something is...
00:28:42.000Phil, do you think Kash Patel should investigate Joe Biden for his alleged crimes with percent for the big guy?
00:28:49.000I don't think so because I think that...
00:28:52.000That going after Joe Biden is a waste.
00:28:55.000I think it's a waste of time because he's so old.
00:28:57.000I would say that he should have gone, that they should go after, like, his family, but he's pardoned them all.
00:29:02.000For me, it's more about the truth than the retribution.
00:29:05.000I want to know exactly how much, because the media sat there and said, this is not real.
00:29:09.000Meanwhile, we're all looking at the evidence going, then what is that?
00:29:12.000Yeah, I guess my frame of mind here is that every president's dirty, and if we're just trying to sic our current FBI on the...
00:29:22.000I don't know if you guys have thoughts on it or not, but I think that it's worth mentioning.
00:29:42.000If the federal government, if the Trump administration declares that The cartels are terrorists, and they actually do start treating them like terrorists, and there will be some type of effort by the cartels to...
00:29:59.000Strike back at the United States, whether they be at the American people or whatever.
00:30:02.000And I think that the FBI will have or should have a significant role in wrapping up as many terrorists and as many cartel members, which would be considered terrorists, here in the United States as possible in order to protect the American people.
00:30:17.000One of the things that I hear most of the time when we talk about or when I see the conversations on X and stuff like that about the administration.
00:30:27.000Calling the cartels terrorists as, oh, you don't know what the cartels will do.
00:30:54.000More of the designated as terrorist organizations.
00:30:56.000I think that's more about federal allocation of resources because that opens up a few more avenues for them to like, you know, I know on Long Island.
00:31:44.000And on our border, and the amount of narcos that are involved in the government, how many people died before they decided that they would let a president live?
00:31:52.000Was it 36 people that the narcos killed before the president became, before Shaban got elected or whatever?
00:31:59.000So you know that the reason Shaban got elected or is alive is because the narcos said, okay, we'll let this one go.
00:32:06.000So if that's the case, then it does make sense.
00:32:11.000And that's why the United States has said, hey, we're going to go ahead and declare them terrorists.
00:32:17.000And when I say airstrikes, I don't think they're going to be going after Mexican towns.
00:32:20.000They're going to be like, it's going to be people finding the actual heads of the narcos and taking them out.
00:32:26.000I will say, you think that the media and the left has lost their mind over the course of the last month?
00:32:30.000Let Donald Trump drone a coca plant in Mexico.
00:32:37.000And just sit back and watch, because people will lose their minds.
00:32:41.000These cartels are a total powder keg on our southern border.
00:32:45.000And beyond that, our country is deeply, deeply infiltrated with all of these different cartels and gangs.
00:32:52.000And I don't know if we'll be able to stomach, if a real conflict arises, the damage that these cartels will do to not only...
00:33:45.000It's like, when you abduct one of these guys' sons, then the cartel punishes you by abducting, I don't know, the whole local government and all of their families and children, and then they end up releasing the father, the child, or something.
00:33:57.000That was the reason I brought up the FBI, and does the FBI have the ability to actually wrap up?
00:34:05.000You said yourself, there's a bunch of narcos in the U.S. Does the FBI have the ability to find these people and protect the American people?
00:34:12.000But do we want, not without regime change and taking over Mexico and literally nation-building in Mexico, then no.
00:34:20.000There's not a way to deal with this unless we were knee-deep, even deeper in Mexico, because the second they leave, it'll continue to just be a narco state.
00:37:53.000But when it comes to the way that you get those guys, it would be a similar thing to the way that they were dealing with terrorists overseas.
00:40:35.000Because I don't think, I'm not so sure that the Mexican government has tried.
00:40:38.000No, no, no, that the United States has tried to convince the Mexican government because the United States has many, many soft power methods.
00:40:46.000They could go ahead and, I mean, we're talking about tariffs right now.
00:40:51.000And tariffs, that has made Mexico stand up and be like, oh, this is a problem for us.
00:41:18.000Again, there's no perfect solution here.
00:41:20.000I know a problem also that we need to consider is how China's heavily involved in this as well, because they provide many of the precursor chemicals to the Mexicans.
00:41:28.000So they're working hand-in-hand with these other criminals.
00:41:31.000Generally, I believe that we need a reinvigoration of the Monroe Doctrine.
00:41:35.000Trump's kind of doing some of this stuff with what we're trying to do in Panama.
00:41:38.000Maybe we can make Mexico great again as well.
00:41:43.000Diminish the demand in America by making things a little bit better and giving 20-somethings a purpose to live rather than going out and doing drugs all day long.
00:41:50.000I think that might be easier than fixing the card.
00:41:52.000I thought you were going to say the legalization card because many people just say legalize heroin.
00:41:56.000Something about that don't feel right.
00:41:59.000I used to be very much pro, you know, hey, if we just decriminalize these things and stuff, it'll take care of itself.
00:42:07.000But there's a lot of things that have to happen in conjunction with that and you're not going to get a government.
00:42:12.000Government to say, okay, nationwide castle doctrine and we'll decriminalize drugs and if someone is using drugs outside of your house, you can go out there and take care of the problem yourself.
00:42:23.000And it takes that kind of, it takes property rights more than just, oh, we're going to go ahead and decriminalize drugs and then provide needles to people.
00:42:31.000Because then you end up with California.
00:42:32.000And it's clearly a problem in California.
00:42:35.000So we're going to go on to this next story though.
00:42:38.000Donald Trump wants to abolish the IRS and replace it with tariffs.
00:42:45.000I like the idea, personally, but I'm not exactly the most educated on economics.
00:42:53.000But I do like the idea of getting rid of the IRS and getting rid of the income tax, because I think that the idea of making the American people pay for making money is bad, and I think that there are other ways to...
00:43:10.000From CNN, no one wants to pay taxes, and practically every American dislikes the IRS. But as the saying goes, the only guarantee in life are death and taxes, so the IRS is here to stay, right?
00:43:22.000Well, maybe not, according to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick.
00:43:25.000Donald Trump announces the External Revenue Service, and his goal is very simple, to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and let the outsiders pay, Lutnick said on Fox News Wednesday night.
00:43:34.000In other words, America will raise so much money from President Donald Trump's tariff plan that the Americans will no longer need to pay income taxes.
00:43:43.000This sounds great, but it's riddled with problems.
00:43:45.000Now, I do think the idea sounds great.
00:43:49.000I would love to see tariffs take care of the funding for the American government.
00:43:57.000I believe that tariffs were the majority of the way that the United States used to raise money prior to the income tax in 1913.
00:44:08.000Thank you very much, Woodrow Wilson, you bastard.
00:44:56.000Rich people, because as we know, they don't take an income.
00:44:59.000They got dividends and they got holdings and everything.
00:45:02.000If we got rid of the income tax and brought some sort of a VAT tax, a value-added tax, where you pay, you know, we'll use a random number, you pay 10% tax on your milk and 10% tax on your yacht, that's actually a fair tax, as opposed to, you know, a guy of Bezos Musk that, you know...
00:45:21.000They have a $1 salary while all of us are sitting here paying 42%, and they're just living the high life.
00:45:27.000And to me, I'm thinking to myself, this is actually, it's going to make things a little bit more expensive, but it's going to make things a hell of a lot more fair.
00:45:34.000And, you know, I think that would allow people, look, you want to buy your McMansion?
00:46:17.000So if you had a percentage of the GDP coming in as a tax on some kind of sales or value added or whatever you want to call it, I do think that the government could be funded.
00:46:32.000I also think that the government could probably cut their actual expenditures by a significant amount.
00:46:40.000And hopefully something like Doge is going to do that.
00:46:45.000But I do think that that's something that's worth discussing.
00:46:48.000Elad, do you have thoughts on a value-added tax or on getting rid of the IRS or on tariffs?
00:48:23.000I feel like that's an argument for America, if anything, because Europe's a dump and Japan's dying.
00:48:28.000So, if anything, it sounds like the U.S. is more successful importing those Japanese cars and European cars, allowing Americans to buy super-made cars.
00:49:13.000Being able to buy goods from people worldwide is a benefit to you.
00:49:17.000It makes it more difficult for American salesmen who have to compete, and American businesses who have to compete on a worldwide market, but it makes it better for the...
00:49:26.000But what it also does is it also helps the multinational corporation export their jobs overseas because they know they can bring it back in with no tariffs.
00:49:35.000And, you know, this is a long game sort of thing.
00:49:40.000But the fact remains is that there are so many companies that have fled.
00:49:46.000Even with things like NAFTA, where all the Detroit motor companies all just made them in Mexico, brought them back over, paid slave wages, and they're making big bucks.
00:49:57.000This is where I think the populist left and the populist right can actually come together.
00:50:01.000If you're an American company and you're going out of your way to screw over American workers, then you need to be punished.
00:50:07.000I think it's a nice populist message, but if we get to the crux of the issue, it's affordability.
00:50:11.000So, I mean, we obviously can't tell what would have happened otherwise.
00:50:14.000But, for example, here's my fancy iPhone.
00:50:17.000I still paid around, like, what, $700, $800 for it.
00:50:19.000And this is from components sourced from around the planet.
00:50:22.000planet, and it's actually amazing that this product could even exist due to the cooperation of millions of different Americans across the planet.
00:50:28.000But how much would this cost if it was purely American-made?
00:50:31.000Nobody would be able to have financial access to it.
00:51:17.000Maybe, just maybe, you might have to take Apple as a corporation.
00:51:21.000Should take, for the good of America and for moral reasons, maybe the company should take a little bit of a hit on their bottom line, on their quarterly earnings, and say, you know what?
00:52:13.000It's the fact that you can send it over there and have it be made and then send it back.
00:52:18.000And all of that transport cost is still less in the United States.
00:52:22.000You could actually take a lot of the regulations and get rid of them in the United States and a lot of the problems that you get with unions and stuff, and the cost of producing these things would go down.
00:52:33.000But that's not something that you hear anyone actually discussing very often.
00:52:38.000Regulations are a significant contributor to the cost and the hurdles to producing things in America.
00:52:49.000I mean, look, I was saying it before, the first American car company, Ford, GM, Chevy, to come out and say, look, our cars are going to be a little bit more expensive, but we're going to make them here.
00:54:50.000But I'm saying that I think what he's trying to say is we should change the way that it works around here so that we have the ability to allow for American companies with incentives, which is the correct way to get people to do stuff, not by subsidizing stuff.
00:55:03.000You incentivize American business to make things here for cheaper so that, like you said, you can have American-made cars and you don't have to have all these crazy, send everything across the country, etc.
00:55:13.000I also believe in our 11 carrier groups because they're sweet, but I also think that I see your point.
00:55:21.000I think what we're trying to say is we don't have to do things the way we always have done.
00:55:25.000There's a bias to want to do things the same way you've always done.
00:55:32.000It would cost more to do in America if you're basing off the current structure right now.
00:55:36.000But we can do paycheck to paycheck right now.
00:55:40.000People are complaining, right, there are issues with the rising prices of eggs.
00:55:44.000Now we're talking about these tariffs again that would...
00:55:47.000Affect the consumer in a negative way.
00:55:49.000I feel like there's a misunderstanding of what the tariffs are because, again, I still believe it's the purchaser who ends up paying the tax warrant.
00:55:56.000Okay, I know that was a big, a whole topic that we were hitting on there.
00:56:00.000If Trump is able to implement it properly, Trump has done, you know, flipped the table on a lot of different policy proposals and how we handle things.
00:56:10.000I will come back and we will chat about it.
00:56:11.000All right, so we're going to go on to this next story.
00:56:14.000Donald Trump, the Trump administration can continue mass firings of federal workers judge rules, which is something that we have been discussing to some extent on the show lately about whether or not the executive has the authority.
00:56:30.000To fire the bureaucracies or bureaucrats, people in the bureaucracy, or whether or not the bureaucracies actually are in control of the government.
00:56:39.000The Guardian reports The Trump administration can for now continue its mass firings of federal employees.
00:56:46.000A federal judge ruled on Thursday, rejecting a bid by a group of labor unions to halt Donald Trump's dramatic downsizing of the roughly 2.3 million strong federal workforce.
00:56:55.000The ruling of the U.S. District Court Judge Christopher Cooper in Washington, D.C. federal court is temporary while the litigation plays out.
00:57:04.000But it is a win for the Trump administration as it seeks to purge the federal workforce and slash what it deems wasteful and fraudulent government.
00:57:10.000Now, actually, I'm going to try and look this up.
00:57:15.000I saw Stephen Miller talking today during the press briefing, and he had a great breakdown of this situation.
00:57:30.000I'd like to play it for you guys if I can find it.
00:57:34.000And I retweeted it so it shouldn't be.
00:57:43.000For four years, failed to cover the fact that Joe Biden was mentally incompetent and was not running the country.
00:57:50.000It is also true that many people in this room who have used this talking point that Elon is not elected fail to understand how government works.
00:57:59.000So I'm glad for the opportunity for a brief.
00:58:24.000The whole will of democracy is imbued into the elected president.
00:58:29.000That president then appoints staff to then impose that democratic will onto the government.
00:58:36.000The threat to democracy, indeed the existential threat to democracy, is the unelected bureaucracy of lifetime tenured civil servants who believe they answer to no one, who believe they can do whatever they want without consequence, who believe they can set their own agenda no matter what Americans vote for.
00:58:53.000So Americans vote for radical FBI reform, and FBI agents say they don't want to change.
00:58:58.000Or Americans vote for radical reform on our energy policies, but EPA bureaucrats say they don't want to change.
00:59:04.000Or Americans vote to end DEI, racist DEI policies, and lawyers in the Department of Justice say they don't want to change.
00:59:12.000What President Trump is doing is he is removing federal bureaucrats who are defying democracy by failing to implement his lawful orders, which are the will of the whole American country.
00:59:27.000Now, I mean, this is something that used to be obvious to people.
00:59:32.000The idea that the federal government is actually, should be led by the people that are elected.
00:59:39.000And the argument being made now, you know, based on these...
00:59:46.000The hearings that the Trump administration is bringing to courts, and that's, I think, the intent of a lot of the things, whether it be the question about the 14th Amendment, where he decided that people no longer had birthright citizenship, which is going to end up in front of the Supreme Court, and this stuff.
01:00:04.000This is all about getting the power back to the elected representatives, and Stephen Miller broke it down great.
01:00:12.000Of the elected representatives, if you don't like them, you can get rid of them.
01:00:17.000And a bureaucracy that is protected by unions, and when you can't fire people, that means that regardless of who's in office, you can't have any kind of...
01:00:34.000You can't get your arguments or your problems taken care of by electing someone else because it's the same people implementing the same policies regardless of who's actually in charge.
01:00:47.000So I think this is something that we're all generally in agreement on, but if you guys have any input on this, I'd like to hear it.
01:03:24.000Whether or not he wants to change regulation, yes, I agree about that.
01:03:28.000I do think that he wants to see less regulation on SpaceX and stuff like that because he can't get rockets into space at the tempo that he wants to with the way that the FAA looks at SpaceX.
01:03:54.000I don't know how that actually benefits most personally.
01:03:59.000I don't know how I feel about him trying to cut costs in the federal government when he wants the federal government to subsidize his company.
01:04:38.000But what I'm talking about is stuff like this, because the topic that we're kind of talking about right here is whether or not the executive has the power to fire people in the bureaucracy.
01:04:53.000I think everything you said is kind of plain and obvious.
01:05:13.000I don't know how people would debate otherwise.
01:07:56.000Do you think there's conflict of interest with Elon Musk?
01:07:58.000When there is a conflict of interest, I will absolutely call it out.
01:08:02.000But right now, I have yet to see any of that.
01:08:04.000I know that when NASA screwed up and left two astronauts in space, the first thing they did was call Elon and say, hey, can we get your help to go rescue these guys?
01:08:16.000I would much rather spend the money on whatever Elon Musk is doing as far as SpaceX or Tesla, which I mean, Tesla is just awesome.
01:08:24.000I would much rather spend the money on that than the absurd waste, than the comic books in Peru, than any person who's ever worked in a government agency.
01:08:34.000Any person who's worked for the government knows you could cut 20% of the workforce and not notice.
01:08:38.000Can all these things be true at once, though?
01:08:59.000And the conflict of interest that are downstream from that.
01:09:01.000But what is it that you think Musk is going to do?
01:09:05.000My main worry is that Elon Musk is a transhumanist, technological accelerationist, and I do think that he has a certain animosity toward the American people because he is not American.
01:09:19.000And that's very clear by the absolute naked vitriol that he threw at Americans who are against H-1B visas.
01:09:27.000The way that he spoke to them in that moment said everything about who he is.
01:09:32.000I think even the way that he conducts himself in his personal life says everything about the type of person that he is and that he's untrustworthy.
01:11:15.000Well, I think on some of those things, I think what Donald Trump does, he puts the idea out there, gauges public reaction, and then makes a decision.
01:11:22.000And so that a lot of people were, I'm talking...
01:11:25.000Do you think Jeffrey Yes had anything to do with, and his donations to Trump had anything to do with Trump flipping his decision to ban TikTok?
01:11:31.000See, but here is how I'm going to answer this, and it's not a deflection.
01:12:26.000Not that Donald Trump doesn't need money to donations and stuff like that, but I really do think that Donald Trump is far more pliable when it comes to getting people to like him than when it comes to actual money donations.
01:12:39.000If you give Donald Trump money and then you insult him, he's not going to let that bludger percent.
01:12:45.000The issue here is you're arguing in the abstract, and I'm trying to give you guys specific examples.
01:13:04.000He literally wants to sew the internet into our brains.
01:13:08.000There is nothing on earth I want less than that.
01:13:11.000I like, like, taking this and putting it on the other side of the room for like an hour.
01:13:14.000The way that he describes it is simply that, like, right now, the interface for your...
01:13:18.000Everyone's already a cyborg, and it's just that the interface is slow because your phone is...
01:13:23.000You're using your thumbs, and his argument...
01:13:26.000Now, I'm not trying to convince you of anything, Mary, but his argument is that the interface, if you can speed up the interface by having a chip in your brain, which is what Neuralink is, that people will take the next step to become transhuman and...
01:13:46.000He is someone who wants to conquer human nature, who wants to basically abolish death and also have complete technological control over human reproduction.
01:13:59.000Do you think that he wants to control it or do you think that he looks at it like that's what he thinks that human beings should be able to do?
01:14:05.000I mean, he is that preeminent figure, isn't he?
01:14:08.000I don't know that he has that kind of desire for control.
01:14:14.000Is that just something that happens by accident?
01:14:16.000He's the richest man on the planet, but he's the richest man on the planet.
01:14:19.000By taking, like, really, really, really big risks about things that he believes in.
01:14:24.000Whether or not you agree with him, like, you can totally disagree and that's fine, but, like, he believes that, you know, climate change is something that's important to worry about, so that's why he started Tesla.
01:14:35.000And he believes that it's possible for an asteroid to come and wipe out all of humanity.
01:14:40.000That's why he thinks we need to be multi-planetary.
01:14:42.000He believes that it's important for people to have access to the internet no matter what their government says.
01:17:46.000And I think that it actually speaks to the thing that I said about how you can actually get along with, or what it's like to try to get along with Donald Trump.
01:17:57.000From NPR. Reversing U.S. policy, Trump attacks Zelensky, blames Ukraine for a war with Russia.
01:18:05.000Now, I mean, I'm going to say right out front, like, it's not Zelensky's fault that Putin invaded.
01:18:12.000The whole thing is Barack Obama's fault for telling Medvedev that Putin could go in after his election.
01:19:24.000For the past three years, the U.S. has been Ukraine's leading supporter in its war with Russia, yet with a series of blunt comments, President Trump is now sounding more aligned with Russia than Ukraine.
01:19:34.000Trump, writing on social media, used his strongest language to date in describing Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky, a dictator without elections.
01:19:42.000Zelensky better move fast or he's not going to have a country left.
01:19:46.000With limited room for maneuver, Zelensky has said relatively little, but he did strike a nerve when he said Wednesday that Trump seems to be living in a Russian-created disinformation space.
01:19:55.000It's my sense, and I think we talked about this a little bit at the very beginning of the show, it's my sense that Donald Trump wants to see Europe as a country.
01:20:05.000Actually pay for the defense of Ukraine because Europe has the most to lose.
01:20:11.000European nations have been living off the United States' military protection for the better part of 60, 75 years, something like that, since the end of World War II. The United States has taken the lion's share of role in making NATO an intimidating force.
01:20:35.000A lot of it has been intentional because the United States didn't want to see nuclear proliferation throughout Europe.
01:20:41.000The United States was trying to keep every country in Europe from getting nuclear weapons because that's just a recipe for disaster.
01:20:55.000The U.S. spends 3.6% of our GDP on our military.
01:20:59.000I think the NATO agreement is every country in NATO spend 3% of their GDP on national defense, on their military, which in net dollars is vastly less than in the United States. which in net dollars is vastly less than in the And they don't even meet their requirements to be in NATO.
01:22:52.000If the French want to go ahead and pick up the tab, fine.
01:22:55.000I think we're at $70 billion that we've sent to Ukraine so far since the war started in 22 and an additional 70 since 2014 when Barack Obama opened the door for President Trump.
01:23:32.000Not thank you for what you've done so far.
01:23:35.000When it comes to foreign policy, I've spent my entire life, I'm 35, and it happened long before this, that every time there's an international conflict or a crisis somewhere, whether it's an earthquake or a landslide or a famine, something happening, the entire United Nations all get together and they look down the row and they go, hey America, you guys got this, right?
01:23:53.000And I'm sitting over here going, we are struggling.
01:23:58.000There are people freezing to death in a tent in western North Carolina right now, and I don't know what the NATO nations have done about it.
01:24:05.000I don't remember getting a lot from North Macedonia.
01:24:07.000I don't think we're getting a lot from Slovenia.
01:24:09.000If we got invaded right now and the Slovenians were like, hey guys, we're on the way.
01:24:28.000Of course, because you're not paying the most...
01:24:30.000If somebody was paying my mortgage, I could afford to drive a Lamborghini because I'm not paying the most expensive thing in my life.
01:24:37.000And it is so frustrating to see all the other countries lecture America instead of sitting back, shutting up, and saying, thank you, daddy.
01:24:45.000I am sick of being the sugar daddy of the world.
01:24:49.000And I'm sorry it falls on Ukraine right now, but...
01:24:53.000This is just the times we're living in.
01:25:00.000Because essentially you're living in this little colony of the United States where we give you guys a ton of money so you can live this dream of a lifestyle with all these walkable cities and all this nonsense.
01:25:09.000Meanwhile, the American guy is working ridiculous hours under all these crazy regulations to get enough money to feed his family.
01:25:15.000And yet everybody can go and have a wonderful, you know, a wonderful, I don't know, a wonderful evening out in Copenhagen.
01:25:51.000It's every time something happens, everyone just looks around and goes, well, America will take care of it.
01:25:56.000Meanwhile, even in the lefty paradise of California, all that money that we've given to Ukraine could be spent to go rebuild the people in California who, if we went $36 trillion in debt and we had airplanes that didn't fall out of the sky and roads that didn't have potholes and kids that could read, I probably wouldn't mind that we were in debt, but the fact that we're borrowing money from China to protect Taiwan from China seems like a recipe for disaster.
01:26:26.000I mean, I know you've got a lot of foreign policy opinions.
01:26:29.000What are your thoughts on Europe and the spending and the treatment of Vladimir Zelensky by President Trump?
01:26:35.000I think it's extremely commendable that Donald Trump is making an effort to end wars both in Eastern Europe and the Middle East right now.
01:26:45.000And I think this rhetoric is trying to manage the expectations of the Ukrainians.
01:26:52.000In a way, with rhetoric like this, he's kind of letting them know your aspirations of getting back Crimea and Donbass aren't going to happen.
01:27:02.000That's been the narrative that Zelensky has been pushing, that they're getting back Donbass.
01:27:24.000As we hand off this conflict to the Europeans, because we are more interested in what's going on in the Pacific, where more of the world is being centered now, Europe's becoming old news.
01:27:35.000Ukraine, after a settlement is reached here, I foresee the Europeans not picking up the tab, and then eventually actually more of Ukraine getting bitten off.
01:27:45.000If we didn't support Ukraine to begin with, I think all of Ukraine would have fallen, which were the ambitions of Putin.
01:27:52.000And thanks to the money spent and the weapons sent over there, the Ukrainians were bravely able to fight themselves.
01:27:58.000We didn't spill American blood in Ukraine, and the Ukrainians proudly fought off.
01:28:04.000So, you know, this is a negotiating ploy.
01:28:07.000If the Europeans do not step up and if the Americans do decide to take a full step back, I foresee Putin just steamrolling through Ukraine down the line.
01:28:19.000And Putin is an irredentist who believes that the fall of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of his life, the greatest geopolitical tragedy of his life.
01:28:28.000So I think we're going to see more ambitions of Putin as a result of this.
01:28:33.000Hold on, is it your sense that Putin actually does want to move into Europe and, like, say, get Poland and get the former Soviet states back?
01:28:43.000Within Putin's lifetime, was Poland part of the USSR or the Warsaw Pact?
01:28:50.000Yeah, so the other country, like, I do believe that he wants to...
01:28:54.000Claw back as much former USSR countries as he can or former Russian Empire countries.
01:29:00.000Yeah, because he lost territory within his lifetime.
01:29:04.000He's seen his country collapse into pieces.
01:29:06.000So totally, I think that's within his ambition to return Russia, in his mind, to its rightful place in world politics, where he sees Russia as a major world power.
01:29:15.000They've kind of been delegated to kind of an afterthought right now.
01:29:21.000The Russian demographics are horrible, too.
01:29:24.000You know, Russia's going to struggle to move forward.
01:29:26.000You know, I know we like to talk about Ukraine and their struggling demographics, but beyond the war, Russia's in a complete demography collapse.
01:29:34.000Mary, what do you think about Ukraine?
01:29:37.000Well, what I wonder with looking at the combination of, first of all, Trump's truth social post excoriating Zelensky, along with him meeting with Putin, excluding Zelensky to Zelensky's deep dismay.
01:29:53.000I just wonder, what is the face-saving move for Trump to make this not look like letting Russia win, basically?
01:30:07.000They're going to get what they want, and Putin doesn't actually want to throw his hands up and call it a day.
01:30:15.000Is it your sense that he wants to take all of Ukraine?
01:30:18.000I don't pay close attention, but my sense is that he's not going to make compromises in negotiations, especially now that Trump has thrown Zelensky under the bus.
01:30:32.000It looks like, oh, the adults in the room have come in to fix this.
01:30:37.000I just wonder if that really just looks like Trump.
01:30:45.000It makes it look like Russia has definitively won in this conflict, and that's a terrible look for the U.S. In terms of a global superpower.
01:30:57.000So I disagree that it's a bad look for the U.S. in that it wasn't the United States actually fighting.
01:31:04.000The U.S. was supporting and giving money to Ukraine.
01:31:08.000Also, Trump was giving lethally to Ukraine in 2020, which was a mistake.
01:31:13.000But I still don't think that it's actually the United States that's losing here.
01:32:11.000I think that because of the stalemate, because of the support from the rest of the world, I think that he's going to have to take, he's going to have to settle for what he's got.
01:32:20.000And that's why I think that he won't go after the rest of Ukraine.
01:32:24.000I think that there's going to be some kind of deal.
01:32:28.000And that's why I don't think that the U.S. looks like they lose.
01:32:31.000Because the U.S. was never going to get Crimea back.
01:32:35.000Or never going to invade, get Crimea back from the Russians and give it to Ukraine.
01:32:39.000Now, he did take a little more territory, but I don't think that he's going to be able to take all of...
01:32:47.000Ukraine, because I don't think that Russia has the, unless they were to, you know, drastically increase or escalate the violence, I don't think they have the ability to take it.
01:32:57.000Well, it's a war of attrition between us and them, essentially, because...
01:33:01.000And not between us and them, it's between Ukraine and them.
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01:42:17.000Everybody on the way out the door hung their...
01:42:21.000Ornaments on that Christmas tree and took as much out as they could the minute they knew it was over.
01:42:26.000Is it just me or is climate change as a political issue just completely dropping off the Democrats' interest and agenda?
01:42:33.000I don't know if it's above abortion or transing the kids anymore.
01:42:38.000Climate change has really fallen off the Democratic agenda.
01:42:41.000It's because they don't have a leader and they don't have anyone to message properly.
01:42:46.000And that's why you are seeing people going out there who you've never heard of before.
01:42:50.000Because they are looking for someone, anyone, to be able to move them forward.
01:42:55.000And unfortunately, I think that if they continue to search for that voice, they are going to come up with some people they do not want.
01:43:01.000I think that the brand, the climate change brand, was hurt by Greta a lot, honestly.
01:43:07.000I think that when Greta was doing her whole shtick at the UN when she was a little kid, it was compelling.
01:43:14.000But as she got older and people saw her in other places doing leftist activism, they started to get the idea that, you know, maybe climate change isn't really the issue that we thought it was.
01:43:27.000And I also think that part of the reason, I think part of the reason is that, but also part of the reason is that the, like, like Kevin said, the left is kind of lost right They are having a civil war on the left.
01:43:39.000They don't know if they should follow the extreme left or if they should go back to the, you know, Democrat kind of mindset where we're not going to hate people for owning property.
01:43:51.000We're not going to hate people for doing for being capitalists right now.
01:43:55.000People like G here and I just saw this this post today.
01:43:58.000People like G here are saying we should go with the ideas that the DSA are talking about.
01:44:04.000Now, the DSA are the Democratic Socialists of America.
01:44:37.000Not that I'm giving Democrats any advice, but...
01:44:40.000People like Ro Khanna, people like Richie Torres, people that are actual Democrats that are saying things like, we need to get away from the identity stuff, we need to get away from the LGBT issues, because the idea of taking the marginalized and making that the focus of our party leaves us without an actual center that can rally around this stuff.
01:44:59.000You can only get so many people to think, oh, these...
01:45:03.000These minority communities are what we need to worry about when they're actually living through serious problems of their own.
01:45:10.000And it's also the way they do the protesting.
01:45:13.000I think that laying in the street thing, blocking traffic, people were like, whatever you're for, I'm for the other thing.
01:45:38.000Like, Kamala Harris, I have some friends that work.
01:45:41.000That work closely with people in the former administration that had friends in the DOJ there.
01:45:48.000And there was a lot of talk about going after people like Musk, going after people like Joe Rogan, possibly going after people like Tim because they were considered a threat to democracy.
01:45:59.000And I think that had Kamala won, the country that we live in would be significantly different.
01:46:05.000There would be significant It's a blessing that Donald Trump won, not just because of Donald Trump or because of Donald Trump's policies, but because the administration that he's put into place is the antithesis of what it used to be.
01:46:25.000Tulsi Gabbard was on the Quiet Skies list.
01:46:29.000Kennedy was actually looked at as the persona non grata by the HHS and by the...
01:46:38.000Wasn't he considered for an Obama-level position?
01:46:55.000Tim Roadrage Langdon said, Elon offered to build a solar field and get electricity to native Australians on his dime because he feels people deserve that basic human right and the Australian government denied it.
01:47:24.000No, I think we've done enough on Elon tonight.
01:47:28.000I found it real interesting that Bannon was willing to come out with those comments about him.
01:47:33.000And Trump's relationships with people who work for him almost never last.
01:47:38.000So we'll see how long Elon Musk stays.
01:47:40.000I will say this about the Bannon comments, and I find this interesting, and I like this on the right, is that we all do disagree, but we all...
01:47:48.000We actually have the diversity of ideas that the left continues to shut out, and I think that's what this administration is going to show more than anything else.
01:47:55.000Like you said, with Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi and Bannon not agreeing and this one over here.
01:48:05.000That speaks to the argument that I made earlier that, like, we have been living in a leftist milieu so long that now the people that are, like, conservative or save the right or saving the country, they are almost all former Democrats.
01:48:21.000Elon Musk, Donald Trump, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, Kennedy.
01:48:29.000We start out as Democrats in New York, the majority of people, and then the more you read and the more you learn, the more you go, hmm, nothing here is getting better.
01:49:27.000And I think that's what the last 10 years has really shown, is that more normal people are rising to the top than the children are our future.
01:49:38.000Performa20 says, glad to see you here, Kevin.
01:49:40.000My wife was your nurse at Good Sam a while back.
01:49:44.000She told me to tell you about your rumble.
01:50:06.000ShadavTheVedMac says, Hey Phil, maybe review how the UAE is doing in regards to their no-income tax and VAT. UAE doesn't have as much infrastructure as America, which can mitigate most foreseeable pitfalls.
01:51:18.000But there's a lot of projects that get funded by a lot of that oil money that are just like wild pies in the sky that may or may not happen.
01:51:36.000Grimov says, we have to weaken the cartels to the point the Mexican government can establish control, incentivize long-term proper governance, then they can keep a lid on things.
01:51:45.000They, too, will have to have a clearinghouse of corruption.
01:51:48.000Yeah, I think that that goes without saying, but I... I just don't think that saying, well, it's too dangerous for us to try to fight the cartels is a good option.
01:51:59.000Because they're only going to infiltrate the U.S. more.
01:52:02.000They're only going to have more cities fall, more areas come under their control.
01:52:07.000I don't think that the U.S. just saying, well, we'll go ahead and build the wall and then not let anyone else in.
01:54:16.000I listen to the All In podcast and they've had people on saying, you know, you'll come up with an innovation and as soon as you release it in China, two weeks later another company has it because they reverse engineer stuff so quickly.
01:54:28.000And if you're dealing with that kind of disregard for property rights, it's tough for countries like the United States that have to have all the rules that we do have.
01:54:56.000I think that we should incentivize making cars in the U.S., and I think that the incentives should be things like lower tax rates for the companies that make them or no taxes.
01:55:10.000I think that those types of incentives for manufacturers that produce jobs or for companies that make jobs, I think those things are a net benefit for the American people and for the country as a whole.
01:56:20.000If I get paid, if I do this, I'll make a boatload of money, but I won't get paid unless everybody that owns Tesla stock makes a boatload of money first.
01:56:27.000He did it, and then a judge in Delaware stepped in and said, no, you can't.
01:57:10.000Again, Elon Musk donated almost $300 million to Trump campaigns through different PACs.
01:57:16.000He owns Twitter, SpaceX, Tesla, and so he has a lot of these interests across the board.
01:57:23.000Show me one person who could donate that level of money that doesn't have a conflict of interest.
01:57:27.000And I would love to get big money out of it.
01:57:33.000I think Elon Musk isn't doing, you know, he's saying certain things and I don't think he believes in all of them and again I think he's using the MAGA group as a vehicle for his own interests and I think we'll be...
01:57:49.000We're seeing the effects of that in the near future.
01:57:53.000Again, I don't think he was never MAGA right before.
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