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00:02:20.000 The Trump DOJ has officially ended the probe into Prince Andrew over his ties to Jeffrey Epstein, meaning he's now free to travel, he's off the hook, and what?

00:02:31.000 He's literally in a photo with Keylane Maxwell and Virginia Dufray, but all right, I guess.

00:02:37.000 And here's the crazy thing about it.

00:02:39.000 Virginia Dufray reportedly took her own life. 0.94

00:02:44.000 And shortly before she did, she was in the hospital appearing to have been seriously battered, which they claimed was a car accident.

00:02:53.000 And then the car accident she got into, the bus driver was like, what?

00:02:56.000 I tapped her tail. 0.96

00:02:57.000 She never got a car accident.

00:02:58.000 And then she posted up in the hospital saying, please, I just need to see my kids one more time.

00:03:03.000 And it's like, huh?

00:03:06.000 And then she took her own life.

00:03:07.000 The whole thing makes literally no sense.

00:03:09.000 But right now, the theory online from many, many people is that there's puppet strings.

00:03:15.000 Trump is not in control.

00:03:16.000 And several prominent Trump supporters are saying this.

00:03:19.000 Maybe, maybe not, but the Prince Andrew thing is hilarious.

00:03:23.000 It's like, here's a picture of him with E-Lane Maxwell.

00:03:26.000 He went on the island.

00:03:27.000 Here's an underage woman who accused him and said he did it.

00:03:30.000 And they're like, nah, he, I. Okay, okay, I guess.

00:03:33.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:03:35.000 We've got a bunch of other really big stories.

00:03:37.000 We've got the State Department's going to be laying off a massive reduction.

00:03:41.000 I believe it's around 1,800 staff members.

00:03:44.000 A district court judge in New Hampshire has said that Donald Trump cannot block birthright citizenship, establishing a class, that is, infants of undocumented parents.

00:03:55.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:03:56.000 And don't forget, we went and saw Superman today.

00:04:00.000 I would say the movie is good, and it was not woke.

00:04:02.000 I'll give you my thoughts on it.

00:04:04.000 I don't think there was anything overtly political in it.

00:04:06.000 And actually, in some ways, I think you could argue it was anti-woke.

00:04:10.000 So all in all, I thought the movie's actually pretty good.

00:04:12.000 Though James Gunn certainly has a chip on his shoulder about getting canceled because of mean tweets at Hex or people pulling up his tweets, which were, you know, inappropriate jokes.

00:04:21.000 And there's a scene in the movie which really hurt the film, but seems like James Gunn wanted to make fun of Mike Cernovich, I guess.

00:04:28.000 So we'll talk about that and more before we get started.

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00:07:10.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Nick Sorter.

00:07:14.000 How's it going?

00:07:14.000 Appreciate you having me again, Tim.

00:07:15.000 It's great to have you.

00:07:16.000 Who are you?

00:07:17.000 What do you do?

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00:07:17.000 I'm an independent reporter.

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00:07:26.000 I just got back from there literally like two hours ago.

00:07:30.000 So running on fumes over here, but you know, it's an important story to keep talking about.

00:07:34.000 Right on, we got Ian hanging out.

00:07:35.000 Man, it's good to be here.

00:07:36.000 And you were talking about sleep earlier in the Ad REIT with Beam and a little life hack about sleep.

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00:08:01.000 So the connection between rest and digestion, try it out.

00:08:04.000 Let me know what your, what your results are like as well, Phil.

00:08:08.000 Have you told anyone who you are yet tonight?

00:08:11.000 No, no.

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00:08:15.000 Hello, everybody.

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00:08:20.000 Let's get into it.

00:08:21.000 Here's a story from the New York Post.

00:08:24.000 Prince Andrew free to travel abroad as FBI N's probe into Royals Jeffrey Epstein Link.

00:08:31.000 Wow.

00:08:32.000 I wonder if there was any evidence that he was involved with Epstein and Maxwell and there were victims.

00:08:38.000 Could it be perhaps the statements from the victim and the picture of him with the victim and they're letting him just go?

00:08:45.000 I'm pretty sure that the powers that be are not going to appreciate us constantly staying on this story.

00:08:53.000 And I would not be surprised if we face a massive censorship from the algorithm over it and smear campaigns, because they'd certainly appreciate if we talked about something else.

00:09:02.000 You can see how flustered they're getting.

00:09:03.000 But yo, check this out.

00:09:04.000 It's the news.

00:09:06.000 Prince Andrew can finally end his self-imposed travel ban after a leaked memo revealed that the FBI is closing its investigation into the Royals Epstein links.

00:09:14.000 The disgraced Duke of York, 65, has left the UK once in the last six years over fears of an arrest.

00:09:20.000 Civil lawsuits are being subpoenaed.

00:09:22.000 Now it appears as though the scandal-scarred prince, who has been kept at arm's length from the royal fold, is able to venture out of the UK without fear of repercussions.

00:09:30.000 He has been abroad once since the scandal erupted, a source told The Sun.

00:09:34.000 He has always been very nervous about going abroad and felt he'd always be looking over his shoulder as he could be subject to civil action or worst, being arrested.

00:09:42.000 Hopefully with this out of the way, it means that he can at least leave the country.

00:09:47.000 What's he supposed to do with the rest of his life?

00:09:48.000 He hasn't been convicted of any crime and can't sit around doing nothing at Royal Lodge forever.

00:09:54.000 I suppose the big question is, is the U.S. going to issue an arrest warrant for him and then demand the U.K. extradite him?

00:10:03.000 Not anymore.

00:10:04.000 Or not extradite.

00:10:05.000 Yeah, I was going to say, I guess not anymore.

00:10:07.000 I mean, they did try, they had to work with the UK authorities before to actually be able to interview him.

00:10:13.000 And then all of a sudden they just decided in 2024, okay, well, we're not even going to go down that road anymore.

00:10:18.000 We're not even going to try to interview Prince Andrew.

00:10:21.000 But, you know, there are so many other things that a lot of people don't know.

00:10:24.000 They don't realize that he lied about the amount of time that he said that he spent with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:10:30.000 It turns out that it was about 10 times as much time as he said that he spent with Prince Andrew or with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:10:37.000 And also the fact that there were text messages between the two of them saying, okay, can't wait to play again soon.

00:10:43.000 You know, we'll play more soon.

00:10:45.000 I mean, just the weird stuff like this.

00:10:47.000 I mean, if you're not going to give any sort of answers as to why you would drop the investigation into the Epstein case in general, at least give us some answers as to why you're going to let this creep walk free and not even try to, you know, even if the UK police or whatever don't take him into custody, at least like show us that he is a pedophile.

00:11:08.000 In the court of public opinion, we'll convict him.

00:11:10.000 Well, they have said that the administration is alluding to the possibility of more information coming out, right?

00:11:15.000 I've seen at least some reports on that.

00:11:17.000 Judicial Watch put out our report saying that they're still reviewing Epstein files.

00:11:20.000 So, I mean, if that could, you know, produce some kind of answers, I'm sure that it's not going to be enough, but I mean...

00:11:29.000 You guys remember when three months ago, Virginia Duffrey, the alleged victim of Andrew, killed herself?

00:11:39.000 Allegedly, right?

00:11:41.000 And how weird it was where, like, a week before that or whatever, she was in the hospital, all bruised and battered, saying, I'm in the hospital dying from a car accident.

00:11:50.000 My kidneys are failing.

00:11:51.000 I just want to see my kids one last time.

00:11:52.000 I believe.

00:11:53.000 And everybody was kind of like, is she just begging the deep state not to murder her until she sees her kids?

00:11:58.000 I think Epstein, I don't know why I think this.

00:12:00.000 He said that someone tried to poison him while he's in prison.

00:12:03.000 Do you guys remember that at all?

00:12:04.000 I don't know, but let me just say, now that there's no principal witness against Prince Andrew.

00:12:08.000 Andrew, look at this.

00:12:10.000 The probe is gone.

00:12:11.000 Epstein's brother was interviewed by Piers Morgan.

00:12:13.000 I don't know if you guys saw that.

00:12:14.000 He said he thinks that Trump is heavily involved with Epstein.

00:12:18.000 And Piers is like, there's no evidence of that.

00:12:20.000 He's like, well, if it were true, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:12:23.000 Dershowitz was saying, I didn't see that.

00:12:25.000 Dershowitz was saying that he had to.

00:12:27.000 We've only talked about that.

00:12:29.000 We got it.

00:12:30.000 Okay, so we'll talk about that later.

00:12:31.000 Pull up that video.

00:12:32.000 So it's like there's two levels of, like you were saying, censorship now.

00:12:36.000 Is this story trying to go out?

00:12:37.000 Like, not only is it this level of the people that run the world, the 12 families, the bloodlines that are in control of the monetary system, the liberal economic order, whoever they are, there's that level of people playing with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:12:48.000 Then there's the American government, which doesn't have to take the bullet for this one.

00:12:52.000 It's not the American government's responsibility to take the heat for Epstein.

00:12:56.000 Epstein was a global consortium, this whole thing.

00:12:59.000 The U.S. government, like, I don't blame them for not wanting to bear the brunt of this, but at the same time, Cash looked like, or Dan Bongino looked like he was in a hostage situation.

00:13:09.000 I literally, I think that they came and people think that these people are like video game villains or like movie villains that aren't real.

00:13:15.000 But I think he was approached and they're like, if you tell people what is going on, we're going to kill your family and not just your immediate family, your entire bloodline.

00:13:23.000 And we're going to choose when they die and we're going to choose how. 0.95

00:13:26.000 And it's going to, this is called a blood vendetta.

00:13:29.000 It doesn't ever go away.

00:13:30.000 Your family lineage will be wiped out.

00:13:32.000 And if you tell anyone that we told you this, your family lineage will be wiped out.

00:13:36.000 I don't think that happened.

00:13:37.000 I don't know.

00:13:38.000 But I'm just like, I'm done acting like they exist and then why in cognitive dissonance?

00:13:44.000 I mean, so there's two principal probabilities based on what we know.

00:13:50.000 And that is Trump went in and said, ha ha, Prince Andrew, what a great stand-up guy.

00:13:56.000 Let's get him off the hook and all my Epstein buddies, whoo-hoo. 0.99

00:13:59.000 Or he said, oh, crap, they've got me by the balls and I have no choice. 0.99

00:14:01.000 Which one is it? 0.99

00:14:05.000 I don't know.

00:14:06.000 I don't have any sense as to whether or not they're telling the truth.

00:14:11.000 I know that everything looks suspicious as hell, and that's why I'm hoping for more answers when the, I'm hoping they'll release more information, and hopefully there are some answers there.

00:14:20.000 But just because I don't know doesn't mean that I think that Cash and Dan Bongino are now a part of the conspiracy.

00:14:28.000 Right.

00:14:29.000 The Maxwell thing, I'm going to call it the Maxwell files.

00:14:32.000 Everyone plays with Jeffrey Epson.

00:14:33.000 He was one of her guys.

00:14:34.000 It's the Maxwell, her dad, Robert Maxwell.

00:14:37.000 They are the ones at the center of this.

00:14:39.000 And they're a blackmail operation.

00:14:41.000 So it doesn't surprise me that Cash and Dan were blackmailed.

00:14:44.000 Like, that's what they do.

00:14:44.000 That Trump is being blackmailed.

00:14:46.000 That's very likely.

00:14:47.000 Or I shouldn't say it's very likely.

00:14:49.000 It is probabilistic in that it is a blackmail ring that they're trying to break, and now they're being blackmailed.

00:14:54.000 That wouldn't surprise me.

00:14:56.000 Well, I mean, it's possible, but I don't think that there's actual evidence of anything.

00:15:00.000 No, I don't think there's any.

00:15:01.000 Not that I've ever seen.

00:15:02.000 You know, you know, people look at this and they'll say, oh, well, your theory is totally wild.

00:15:05.000 It's totally, it's so far out there.

00:15:07.000 But what breeds that is the fact that, you know, we all feel like, and rightfully so, that we're being totally lied to.

00:15:13.000 You know, it's probably the most brazen lie I feel like I've heard out of this administration so far.

00:15:20.000 And I hate to say that.

00:15:22.000 You know, we got to the point where, you know, when was Bondi lying?

00:15:28.000 Was it when she was on Fox News 15 times or is it now?

00:15:30.000 You know, it's one or the other.

00:15:32.000 It doesn't go away.

00:15:32.000 You can't say you have all these files on your desk, you have all these videos, all this information, and this binder is only phase one, and we're going to release so much more and then say, oh, well, poof.

00:15:40.000 No, it doesn't exist.

00:15:41.000 None of it exists.

00:15:42.000 And this issue is not going away.

00:15:45.000 As much as they think that this is just another piece of news where it's just going to, people are going to forget about it and move on.

00:15:50.000 I'm telling you, if they don't explain themselves and they're not transparent about this process, what made them close the case?

00:15:57.000 What made them decide they're not going to release any information?

00:16:01.000 This is going to be a stain on the administration if they don't act on it.

00:16:05.000 Last night, the conversation came up that if it were revealed and it completely destroyed the world order, like the Saudi princes, the Russian magnates, all the Chinese bureaucrats, all the people that were involved in this somehow turn on the people that released the data, the American government, and then they blacklisted, they stopped working with the American, just fucks up the entire order.

00:16:25.000 Would you be the one to pull the trigger?

00:16:27.000 Would you release the files?

00:16:29.000 If there was not only it's not going to, like, what would it solve?

00:16:32.000 We're talking about child rapists, because the fact that none of these people are being held accountable is the reason that they're going to continue.

00:16:38.000 This stuff is still happening.

00:16:39.000 It's still happening.

00:16:41.000 And it's going to be enabled more.

00:16:44.000 If you don't do anything about it, there's no consequences.

00:16:46.000 I totally disagree with that.

00:16:48.000 The idea that if you don't hold them accountable, it will only produce more.

00:16:52.000 Even if you hold them accountable, there will be more.

00:16:55.000 For all of human history, wealthy people, powerful people have taken advantage of children or taken advantage of their positions of power and broken the law.

00:17:07.000 So the idea that this would solve that, no.

00:17:12.000 If it prevents one child from being raped, it's worth doing.

00:17:15.000 It would be justice for the people that actually have broken the law, and that's good.

00:17:19.000 That's something that we should go for.

00:17:21.000 But there are a lot of people that are like, oh, this will fix everything.

00:17:23.000 This will not fix anything.

00:17:24.000 There will just be a new crop of people doing disgusting things.

00:17:27.000 That's what I was thinking is if you remove the people, the positions that are still there functioning.

00:17:32.000 And if you put new people into those positions, that behavior...

00:17:38.000 Okay.

00:17:39.000 If there's a CEO of a company and he gets fired, you put a new CEO in.

00:17:41.000 He's going to be functionally doing the same thing. 0.88

00:17:43.000 But if there is a CEO who's a pedophile and you remove him and you put a new CEO there who's not a pedophile, then you've gotten rid of the pedophile.

00:17:50.000 It's like their whole families. 0.69

00:17:51.000 It's these families.

00:17:53.000 And you can't, how are you going to.

00:17:55.000 All the people in the family are blood?

00:17:57.000 I think are bad.

00:17:58.000 I think that you should probably have evidence for holding people accountable.

00:18:01.000 Surge before the show, like, what would you do if you were born into one of the richest families on earth and had everything ever?

00:18:06.000 You just do what your family did.

00:18:08.000 And so that's what's happening.

00:18:10.000 If you remove the perpetrator and a new person gets, the family's still there.

00:18:15.000 And I'm not suggesting to try and take over family or get rid of families because that's, you know, that tit for tat.

00:18:22.000 You know, I don't want my family obliterated.

00:18:25.000 I think the issue is that evil is easy and it always has been.

00:18:29.000 It is easier to succeed as an evil person than as a good person.

00:18:32.000 And humans are animals, man, and people will take advantage of that.

00:18:35.000 The mammal, you know, they'll use you as a slave if they can. 0.94

00:18:39.000 I just want to be clear here.

00:18:41.000 So the argument here is, you know, taking down the pedophile ring will not stop people from feeling enabled to do this.

00:18:49.000 these rich, powerful elites.

00:18:51.000 So you don't think any of them would be deterred if they were...

00:18:54.000 You don't think it enables them.

00:18:55.000 If they're not held accountable, nobody's held accountable, and they know that.

00:19:01.000 Like Prince Andrew didn't leave the country.

00:19:04.000 He was terrified.

00:19:05.000 So yes, arresting them will inhibit these people.

00:19:09.000 One issue?

00:19:10.000 Those people, but it won't inhibit the people that come after them or other rich people.

00:19:17.000 No, the point that I'm making is rich people, powerful people have always felt that they're above the law, and they've always done things that are outside of the law.

00:19:25.000 So yes, the people that have broken the law, we should punish them.

00:19:29.000 I think that they should release all the information.

00:19:31.000 Like if there are people that have violated children, they should be prosecuted, go to jail, whatever the maximum punishment for the law is.

00:19:39.000 Yes, but to say that doing this will fix a problem, no, no.

00:19:43.000 That's trying to fix the human condition.

00:19:44.000 There will always be evil people.

00:19:46.000 You put, give people money and you give them access to power.

00:19:51.000 But do you think there is more or less murder when we arrest people for murder?

00:19:56.000 I think that the people that commit murder don't think that they're going to get caught or don't care.

00:20:00.000 The vast majority of the people are.

00:20:01.000 Which is more or less murder when we enforce against murder?

00:20:04.000 I think there's probably the same amount.

00:20:06.000 I don't think that there's more or less.

00:20:07.000 So there's no point in enforcing against murder because- The reason that you have laws against them is so that you punish the people that do.

00:20:17.000 I don't believe that it's a deterrent, though.

00:20:19.000 I genuinely don't.

00:20:20.000 I think the law is a deterrent.

00:20:21.000 It can function as a deterrent.

00:20:22.000 It is for me.

00:20:23.000 For normal people, but you're not a person that would commit murder.

00:20:26.000 If it was people and I was encouraged to my whole life, I might be a murderer.

00:20:30.000 Like if you were supposed to and you were raised that way.

00:20:32.000 I think that people that would commit murder will commit murder regardless of the law.

00:20:37.000 I don't think that law is deterred because people break the law all the time.

00:20:40.000 I break the law when I speed, right?

00:20:43.000 Like that's people break the law all the time.

00:20:45.000 So your level of comfort with breaking the law is what actually matters.

00:20:50.000 If you are the kind of person that's impulsive and you're like, I don't care, I'm going to go do this.

00:20:55.000 The law doesn't stop people from murdering people.

00:20:57.000 People still murder.

00:20:58.000 I'm pretty sure there would be a substantially greater amount of murder, particularly coming from the left as a good example, if they thought there would be no enforcement action against them.

00:21:06.000 I'm not so convinced.

00:21:08.000 I honestly don't know what to do.

00:21:08.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

00:21:12.000 I'm pretty sure the antifa guys who lured those cops out and shot them in the neck would have just been much more overt about it and walked up to the building in a line with rifles, blasting into the building.

00:21:20.000 No, because the reason that they didn't do that isn't because of the law.

00:21:23.000 It's because of the guys with guns.

00:21:25.000 They were literally going after other dudes with guns.

00:21:28.000 The deterrent is people that are going to shoot back, not the law.

00:21:31.000 There's the best of the issue is you have the authority to use the law.

00:21:37.000 The police have the authority to respond with lethal force.

00:21:41.000 Most places and most people have the authority to respond with lethal.

00:21:45.000 So when these people have been advocating for killing cops for years, why aren't they doing it?

00:21:49.000 Well, they're doing it.

00:21:51.000 They're not.

00:21:51.000 Well, the people that advocate for killing cops, but that don't do it, they're not the kind of people that generally are murderers.

00:21:57.000 Look, if you have someone break into your house and you're in a state that's not a stand-your ground state, most people are not going to say, F you, I'm going to shoot you, even to save their own lives.

00:22:06.000 They're going to try and get out of there because they're afraid of killing people, not because they're afraid of what's going to happen.

00:22:13.000 Why is that gangbangers in Chicago have other people commit murders for them?

00:22:17.000 Well, I mean, there's a lot of reasons for that, right?

00:22:18.000 Because they put people in a position so that way they break the law, so they go into the system.

00:22:25.000 So they're committed to the gang.

00:22:26.000 So stuff like that.

00:22:27.000 Yes, but you know the real reason.

00:22:29.000 What?

00:22:29.000 There is one reason why adult gangbangers in Chicago get kids to commit murders.

00:22:35.000 Part of it is because they want the shorter sentences and stuff like that.

00:22:41.000 The first and only reason is they literally will tell the 15-year-old, you'll get locked up for three years.

00:22:47.000 I'll get locked up for 20.

00:22:48.000 You go do it.

00:22:50.000 So the law clearly is a deterrent.

00:22:52.000 That right now.

00:22:52.000 I think it is also.

00:22:53.000 People that are actually willing to go and commit murder, the law is not a thing.

00:22:58.000 It's not a theft.

00:22:59.000 In California, they made theft illegal up to $1,000, and there's so much more theft.

00:23:03.000 It exploded.

00:23:03.000 The law was preventing that, was making people not do it.

00:23:08.000 It's like the law is basically saying, like, hey, if you do this, I'll hit you.

00:23:11.000 And so people are like, I don't want to get hit, man.

00:23:12.000 Throw it a force.

00:23:13.000 Literally force.

00:23:14.000 I think the police force.

00:23:15.000 I think when it comes to violence and stuff like that, I don't think that when it comes to murder and stuff, I think the people that will commit murder are the kind of people that will commit murder.

00:23:24.000 And I don't think that they're the best.

00:23:25.000 I think both directions of this argument are valid because there are people that will commit acts regardless of the law, and especially people that feel like they're above the law or people that are so psychotic they don't even care about the law.

00:23:34.000 There is those.

00:23:35.000 Maybe that's both, the people at the top and the people at the bottom of the belt.

00:23:38.000 So they're quite literally gangs in Chicago that will publicly state the law is a deterrent.

00:23:42.000 They'll be like, no, we can't do that because we'll get locked up and we can't get locked up right now.

00:23:46.000 You know what concerns me, though?

00:23:47.000 Because you were saying if this could even save one kid, breaking up this pedophile ring or breaking up this cabal.

00:23:53.000 But what could happen is it disrupts order so drastically that we have another Libya appear and child trafficking times a million.

00:24:01.000 What are the circumstances where that happens, though?

00:24:04.000 The U.S. dollar fails because the banks give up on the liberal economic order because they betrayed them.

00:24:10.000 Off of jailing pedophiles? 1.00

00:24:12.000 Yeah, the Swiss banks that are involved in this stuff will be like, all right, fuck these people. 1.00

00:24:17.000 This liberal economic order, we're going to China. 1.00

00:24:19.000 We're going to Russia.

00:24:21.000 They're dead to us now.

00:24:22.000 And so is Germany or wherever they're importing their masses into. 0.98

00:24:29.000 Yeah, I don't think a system like that should deserve, it should be allowed to exist.

00:24:32.000 It's impossible to stop it, dude.

00:24:35.000 The viciousness of humanity is.

00:24:37.000 So is your argument that we should not try to stop evil from happening?

00:24:44.000 Sometimes trying to stop evil will create more harm is nothing.

00:24:50.000 Is it that there is evil that is so powerful, we are best left to just do nothing?

00:24:58.000 Yes.

00:24:58.000 All right, I'll see what happens.

00:25:00.000 I think there are some, what you would call evil, there are some aspects of humanity that are just unstoppable.

00:25:07.000 This is the first argument about this.

00:25:09.000 I just realized Ian was wrong.

00:25:10.000 I'm back.

00:25:13.000 I don't know if it's good or evil, but there's viciousness and destructiveness. 1.00

00:25:16.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:25:17.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we've been tracking this riot that's been going on, and we've got breaking news. 1.00

00:25:22.000 Breaking news. 0.66

00:25:24.000 It looks like, holy, holy crap, from Breaking 911, left-wing terrorists appears to open fire on ICE agents during a raid at a farm in Southern California. 0.88

00:25:35.000 So it appears as a video.

00:25:37.000 I'm going to have to actually watch this first.

00:25:40.000 Do you want to, we'll switch the, because I'm bringing this live.

00:25:44.000 I just saw it.

00:25:44.000 I just put it up.

00:25:45.000 This video right here, it appears a protester from the game.

00:25:47.000 Oh, yeah, he's on loading.

00:25:49.000 Yeah, it's not a game.

00:25:50.000 We can show this.

00:25:51.000 There's nothing graphic.

00:25:52.000 I just didn't want to see like a cop.

00:25:54.000 Of course.

00:25:54.000 I didn't want to put a cop getting shot on.

00:25:56.000 Ten minutes ago, I started seeing the story.

00:25:58.000 So we're zoomed in right here.

00:26:00.000 Check it out.

00:26:00.000 You can see him.

00:26:01.000 He pulls his gun.

00:26:03.000 And he's on load.

00:26:03.000 He's a protester fired some kind of gun at federal agents.

00:26:06.000 This happened this afternoon.

00:26:08.000 He was aiming hot.

00:26:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:10.000 I'm surprised he didn't spray down his buddies.

00:26:13.000 It appears a protester fired back with that weapon.

00:26:16.000 It looks like he fired at least a couple of times.

00:26:19.000 We have not heard about any agents.

00:26:21.000 This is going to be the norm.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, it's going to happen.

00:26:23.000 It's going to happen all summer.

00:26:24.000 You guys mentioned last night about if the police stomp down on this, like come hard, that it would make it worse.

00:26:31.000 But I don't agree with that.

00:26:32.000 I think it would shut it down.

00:26:35.000 I think if the police come with an iron fist, this stops.

00:26:39.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 You put the people that would do this kind of stuff.

00:26:43.000 You wrap all of those people up and you put them in jail.

00:26:45.000 Also, you got to find where the funding's coming from because when they did that in California, those LA riots stopped.

00:26:49.000 They went after the funding and like two days later, it was done.

00:26:52.000 At what point?

00:26:52.000 Now, you guys seem to be more libertarian leading than anybody.

00:26:55.000 But at what point do we just say, you know what, screw this?

00:26:59.000 We're done.

00:26:59.000 We're getting the military involved.

00:27:01.000 Oh, I think that should be the case now.

00:27:03.000 Yeah, I feel like we are wasting time here.

00:27:05.000 We've got three and a half more years.

00:27:07.000 If we want to hit these deportation numbers, we need the military involved.

00:27:11.000 And they'll put a stop to this.

00:27:12.000 These people aren't going to be opening fire on Marines as easy as they are ICE agents.

00:27:19.000 It's just not going to happen.

00:27:20.000 Weaponized drones, whatever the military wants to bring in.

00:27:22.000 I mean, if they really want to stop, but there'll be a lot of collateral damage.

00:27:25.000 As soon as the military came into Los Angeles, the riots were mostly quelled, almost overnight.

00:27:30.000 It was incredible.

00:27:30.000 Why not send, I mean, we've got the military.

00:27:33.000 Bring back the 40,000 troops we have in the Middle East.

00:27:35.000 Put them in California.

00:27:37.000 Put them in Texas. 0.89

00:27:38.000 You can activate the National Guard in California and activate the National Guard in Texas, but I don't know about the military that's full-time.

00:27:45.000 We have the story.

00:27:46.000 This is the background.

00:27:47.000 Federal agents clash with protesters during ICE raid at Southern California Farm.

00:27:51.000 And as you can see here, this is just the general video.

00:27:54.000 Some federal agents there who appear to have been carrying out a large-scale immigration enforcement.

00:28:00.000 This is about 50 miles northwest of Los Angeles.

00:28:03.000 And at one point, federal agents were seen throwing smoke canisters towards the protesters, sending the crowd running in the opposite direction.

00:28:12.000 Now, just to orient you again, about 50 miles northwest of LA.

00:28:17.000 This is just outside of Oxnard, California.

00:28:21.000 For those of you familiar, some protesters were seen holding flags, appearing to poke military vehicles that were passing by.

00:28:27.000 At least one person has been arrested and another was seen pinned to the ground.

00:28:31.000 We'll continue to bring you updates when we have them.

00:28:34.000 Wow.

00:28:34.000 So again, going back to this video, this was posted 20 minutes ago.

00:28:40.000 So, you know, right after we start the show, and once again, it looks like, because it looks like similar footage, they appear, these people appear to be running from tear gas.

00:28:49.000 Take a look at this video right here.

00:28:51.000 It appears a protester.

00:28:52.000 He's shooting a gun.

00:28:54.000 This is a gun fire.

00:28:56.000 It was a really chaotic scene at the time.

00:28:58.000 A lot of smoke was fired.

00:28:59.000 He's touching it with his bare hands after he unloaded his gun.

00:29:02.000 It appears a protester fired that guns with that weapon.

00:29:05.000 It looks like he fired at least a couple of times.

00:29:07.000 We have not heard about any agents being hurt.

00:29:11.000 He didn't hit anything like that.

00:29:13.000 Right.

00:29:14.000 At a weird angle.

00:29:16.000 I'm wondering, you know, it's hard to tell what kind of weapon he actually has.

00:29:20.000 Some kind of small and grainy.

00:29:22.000 You know, look, I'm going to say this.

00:29:24.000 I know a lot of people are not going to want to hear it, but is there a possibility he's got an airsoft or a BB gun?

00:29:30.000 I don't care.

00:29:30.000 You fire a projectile at a point.

00:29:33.000 It looks like a gun. 0.98

00:29:34.000 You should be turned into Swiss cheese. 0.97

00:29:35.000 I'm sorry. 0.97

00:29:35.000 Like, no questions asked. 0.97

00:29:38.000 So here's the next question.

00:29:41.000 These police in this video, as we can see, let me pull up this video again.

00:29:45.000 You can see these cops here. 0.99

00:29:46.000 Sending the crap. 0.99

00:29:47.000 And they've got gas masks, tear gas, and pepperball guns. 1.00

00:29:51.000 At what point do they need to come out with live ammo?

00:29:54.000 I mean, like, do they need to be at least having some guys on the ground with rifles prepared to return fire in the event?

00:30:02.000 We don't know exactly what happened, but this video looks like one of these protesters, terrorists, I guess, just pulled out a handgun and opened fire.

00:30:11.000 And the principal assumption I'm going to make is it's a nine millimeter or something.

00:30:16.000 Yeah, I mean, look, most of the time, there's a guy, there's at least a couple guys doing overwatch when they line up like that.

00:30:22.000 So there'll be guys like back on like a truck with like a DMR designated marksman rifle.

00:30:28.000 So there's probably, there's definitely dudes that have lethal force capacity there.

00:30:34.000 But the guys on the line, usually they're just with pepper balls and gas masks and stuff.

00:30:38.000 This sounds like the perfect use case to actually start integrating the military into these large-scale raids.

00:30:45.000 Is there anything on the books at this point that's really going to stop the president from fully federalizing the California National Guard?

00:30:52.000 I know Newsom keeps trying to fight it, keeps trying to take back control of the National Guard.

00:30:58.000 But if that doesn't work, then at the end of the day, what is stopping the president from invoking the Insurrection Act and actually using that to help with these ICE raids?

00:31:09.000 So far as my understanding, when Trump sent the Marines in, he did not need to invoke the Insurrection Act because they were protecting federal property.

00:31:18.000 And so they're not enforcing law.

00:31:20.000 Because of something called posi comitatas, U.S. military can't enforce domestic laws.

00:31:24.000 If Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, they can.

00:31:28.000 Citing the reckless, like the lawlessness, the law is not being enforced locally, so we will come in and federally enforce it.

00:31:34.000 I think California and New York especially right now, Trump should be sending in the troops.

00:31:41.000 And you know what they did when, who was this?

00:31:44.000 Was this, was it Jon Stewart on Daily Show, whatever?

00:31:48.000 They were heavily criticizing Bannon and Pesobic and others for saying send in the troops, but they twisted what was being said as if, and then it might have been clapped.

00:31:59.000 I don't know if it was Jon Stewart, but he was like, they are saying to send the troops against us, against us.

00:32:04.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:32:06.000 I think Donald Trump needs to send federal law enforcement and if military, if necessary, because they are opening fire, shooting law enforcement in this is now, it's Thursday, in less than one week.

00:32:22.000 We have three instances where leftist terrorists have opened fire on law enforcement.

00:32:27.000 I want to see, I want to see National Guard, the Marines, whoever else, protecting these guys and making sure when they carry out their constitutionally sworn duty of enforcing the law as Congress has passed it, that terrorists will not kill them.

00:32:45.000 You guys talked about Kent State, the Kent State Chief.

00:32:48.000 I went to Kent State University.

00:32:49.000 I was there on the Hill.

00:32:51.000 1970, May 4.

00:32:52.000 The National Guard was there.

00:32:53.000 There was a protest against the Vietnam War, and the college kids were throwing rocks at the cops at the National Guard.

00:32:59.000 And the National Guard opened fire on the crowd and killed four people and wounded.

00:33:03.000 I don't know about Crosby Sells Nashing Young wrote a song, Ohio, about it, which is very good.

00:33:08.000 So at what point do you return fire on these people?

00:33:12.000 Obviously, they pull a gun and start shooting.

00:33:13.000 You put down the active shooter, I think.

00:33:16.000 If someone starts throwing rocks, what if the rock hits a cop in the head and does serious damage?

00:33:22.000 What if a rock kills a cop?

00:33:23.000 Do you open fire on the guy throwing the rocks?

00:33:25.000 That's the question about if you bring in the military, when do they stop firing?

00:33:30.000 When it comes to people throwing rocks, you should use less than lethal.

00:33:33.000 So if you have like rubber bullets or beanbag rounds from a shotgun, use those because they're less than lethal.

00:33:39.000 They're not going to kill someone.

00:33:40.000 Start shooting, obviously, then the police should defend themselves.

00:33:43.000 People are going to die.

00:33:44.000 Okay. 0.98

00:33:45.000 We already had at that No Kings protest, those liberal guys unloaded indiscriminately into the crowd and killed an innocent person. 0.73

00:33:53.000 And so that was, they were targeting an Antifa guy, which is weird, but they were trigger-happy lunatics who pulled out their guns, started shooting.

00:34:01.000 The police need to be able to stop someone from killing people.

00:34:06.000 What do we want?

00:34:07.000 No one to die.

00:34:08.000 You can protest.

00:34:10.000 You can block the streets.

00:34:11.000 You get arrested for it, but no one should die or get seriously injured.

00:34:15.000 This guy pulled out a gun and started shooting.

00:34:17.000 How do you stop that from happening?

00:34:19.000 Beanbags, no guarantee. 0.72

00:34:21.000 Rubber bullets are no guarantee.

00:34:22.000 Pepper spray, tear guessed, none of these are guarantees.

00:34:24.000 In fact, through all of those, the guy was getting tear guessed as he was shooting.

00:34:29.000 Unfortunately, the reality is, if someone is an active shooter trying to kill police and probably could have killed other bystanders who are protesting, you need to neutralize the threat to maximize the saving of lives.

00:34:42.000 That's why they have, like I said, that's why they have designated marksmen.

00:34:46.000 But the thing is, there's all those people around and the police are just not going to start shooting into the crowd.

00:34:51.000 Like if there's a guy in the crowd shooting, the police are not going to start shooting back into the crowd.

00:34:57.000 Wow.

00:34:57.000 Because then the chances of hitting someone innocent is way too much.

00:35:02.000 And the Trump administration can't afford that.

00:35:05.000 So no matter how much you want the emotional satisfaction of getting the guy that was trying to kill the cops, you can't because once the bullet hits the guy, it goes through him.

00:35:19.000 They don't stop in people, you know, and you're responsible for every round that comes out of the gun.

00:35:24.000 I'm also thinking about it from the other perspective, which I tend to do, of if you were being suppressed by a government and the government was trying to stomp out your protests and you're like, this is our land, get out of our territory, as the citizens of California might be feeling, maybe occupied.

00:35:40.000 Like the desire to fight back doesn't stop.

00:35:43.000 ABC has picked the story up.

00:35:45.000 I mean, this is it.

00:35:46.000 This is confirmed.

00:35:47.000 ABC eyewitness news.

00:35:48.000 A protester is seen firing some kind of weapon at federal agents.

00:35:52.000 You know, many of us believed, I falsely believed, I think many of us believed that during the 2020 riots, these liberals in the cities were going to learn their lesson from the violence and that it might change their minds.

00:36:05.000 It didn't.

00:36:06.000 It didn't change their minds.

00:36:09.000 I suppose the assumption made by these people was that Trump was president and he didn't protect us, so why bother voting for him?

00:36:16.000 So the lesson they actually learned was the opposite.

00:36:18.000 Then when Joe Biden got in and everything got bad, they said, this is the fault of bad leadership in Joe Biden.

00:36:24.000 I believe Donald Trump, he's got to go in and stop this.

00:36:30.000 And it's not even, you know what, you know what?

00:36:32.000 Guys, the right is so afraid of being called fascists, they won't even use the powers the law grants them.

00:36:38.000 The Insurrection Act exists.

00:36:40.000 It was passed by Congress.

00:36:42.000 It is not unconstitutional.

00:36:43.000 It is not fascistic.

00:36:45.000 It is how we enforce laws in this country.

00:36:47.000 It's actually democratic.

00:36:49.000 We voted for Trump to stop the illegal immigration. 0.98

00:36:52.000 Now terrorists are trying to kill cops.

00:36:54.000 Trump has the right to defend this country, these towns, these states, send in the military, invoke.

00:37:01.000 I mean, look, he already won on the National Guard.

00:37:03.000 Send in the National Guard first. 0.71

00:37:04.000 And if that's not enough, then you Insurrection Act and you put a couple of people on the street corners where these people are shooting at cops.

00:37:11.000 Yeah, look, I mean, considering, like, we just talked about, this is the third attack.

00:37:16.000 In less than a week.

00:37:17.000 Third time that the police have been shot at in less than a week over immigration.

00:37:20.000 Two cops shot.

00:37:21.000 So, I mean, look, it's time to put the foot, you know, bring the boot down.

00:37:25.000 Like, you know, start rounding people up.

00:37:28.000 Start saying, no, you can't protest at these things.

00:37:31.000 If you, you know, gather for a protest when ICE is trying to do an operation, we're going to arrest every last one of you so that way ICE can do the operation that they need.

00:37:41.000 No, this is important.

00:37:43.000 You guys might have seen it.

00:37:45.000 I just realized this.

00:37:46.000 Here he is shooting, right?

00:37:47.000 Yeah.

00:37:48.000 Once he gets back by this car, he starts shooting again.

00:37:52.000 Right, right there.

00:37:53.000 See him?

00:37:53.000 Yeah.

00:37:54.000 He keeps going.

00:37:55.000 Even though we can't see him.

00:37:56.000 Dude runs right in front of him.

00:37:58.000 Yep.

00:37:59.000 Dude runs right in front of him.

00:38:00.000 You can see right here, he raises the weapon again and appears to fire.

00:38:03.000 Is that truck, keep going a little bit, the truck up top, keep going forward, forward?

00:38:08.000 Is that the one where you can see the tire?

00:38:11.000 Is that a police vehicle?

00:38:12.000 Yeah, a police vehicle.

00:38:13.000 This one looks like it's a police vehicle.

00:38:14.000 So that might be shooting at the police vehicle.

00:38:17.000 Maybe above the hood of the vehicle or above the roof to try and hit somebody on the other side of it or something.

00:38:22.000 Some people are commenting right now that it looks like his gun's jammed.

00:38:26.000 He was having problems with it.

00:38:28.000 It's a high point.

00:38:30.000 Yep.

00:38:31.000 But I just noticed I was watching it.

00:38:33.000 He raises the weapon a second time.

00:38:35.000 You can see right there, just off frame, he's raising the weapon.

00:38:41.000 It's an unprecedented time because you're talking about bringing down the boot, rounding people up, saying you can't protest, which is just antithetical to the essence of the protests in the United States.

00:38:52.000 We're way beyond that.

00:38:54.000 Exactly.

00:38:55.000 It's not normal paradigm.

00:38:56.000 I was thinking, like, people talk about nostalgia for the 90s a lot of times.

00:38:59.000 I think it's because the 90s and 2000s was the most, or the 80s and 90s were the most peaceful era.

00:39:04.000 It was so peaceful.

00:39:05.000 The 90s particularly were so peaceful.

00:39:07.000 The Berlin Wall came down.

00:39:09.000 It was this feeling of we have world peace now for like 15 years, from like 86 to Joseph Owen, Desert Stall.

00:39:16.000 Yeah, those were all under, you didn't hear about it.

00:39:18.000 It was like we did limited warfare things.

00:39:20.000 And what's that?

00:39:21.000 It was limited warfare. 0.95

00:39:22.000 Yeah, and very kept, well, there was no internet to be like, hey, look how fucked up limited warfare can be. 0.90

00:39:26.000 And then 9-11.

00:39:27.000 The Berlin Wall actually came on down in the 80s.

00:39:30.000 It was 89.

00:39:31.000 Yeah, 89.

00:39:31.000 It was that was that.

00:39:32.000 I remember watching that on TV.

00:39:34.000 It was just a peaceful time.

00:39:37.000 It wasn't chaotic.

00:39:38.000 It was ordered.

00:39:40.000 Well, I do largely agree that people long for the 90s because it was the end of the Cold War.

00:39:45.000 The U.S. dominated.

00:39:46.000 There was a massive economic expansion.

00:39:48.000 And those of us who grew up in the 90s, it was like, it was great.

00:39:55.000 America was on top of everything.

00:39:56.000 So I grew up in the mindset of I would never consider firing on a crowd of protesters, but now a dude pulled out a gun and shot at a guy.

00:40:05.000 It's in a different realm.

00:40:06.000 I have been saying this for some time now.

00:40:09.000 Zoran Mamdani made it clear when he said he would stop Trump from enforcing the law.

00:40:16.000 These people do not view themselves of the American tradition.

00:40:20.000 They hate America.

00:40:21.000 Zoran Mamdani allegedly has this blog.

00:40:23.000 I don't know if it's actually his, but it's been going viral, where he talks about how he wishes he was white and how he feels such envy because he just wants to be white, but he can't.

00:40:32.000 And so this is what motivates these people, disdain and jealousy.

00:40:36.000 So this guy is basically saying in his campaign, when Donald Trump is elected, because he says illegal immigration is bad.

00:40:44.000 So people say, okay, Trump, get the illegal immigrants out of this country.

00:40:47.000 Zoran says, we will protect you.

00:40:49.000 Now, who is you?

00:40:50.000 Who are the families he's talking about?

00:40:53.000 When we talk about conflict and factions and war, each side will refer to their enemies as their enemies.

00:41:00.000 They'll say terrorists, right?

00:41:02.000 But the left doesn't call these people terrorists.

00:41:04.000 They'll call them rebels or freedom fighters or heroes, probably.

00:41:10.000 When Zoran Mandani says protecting families, he's saying the people who broke our laws have spit on our Constitution and have nothing but disdain for our way of life, our traditions, and our laws. 0.94

00:41:20.000 And when he says he will stop Trump from deporting them, he is telling everyone in the United States, you as an American, your will be damned.

00:41:29.000 I will stop your president from doing anything about what we are doing.

00:41:33.000 What I ultimately mean to say by this, Ian, you say, I never would have dreamed on opening fire on a cop.

00:41:37.000 Well, yeah, because that cop is an American just like you.

00:41:40.000 These people don't view themselves as American.

00:41:42.000 They fly Mexican flags, Colombian flags.

00:41:45.000 They fly flags of Honduras, and they're doing it because they want to make California Mexico again.

00:41:52.000 So why is that guy shooting?

00:41:54.000 Because he's thinking you, when he says you, to the ICE agents, are enemy occupiers of the land I seek to take away.

00:42:02.000 Yeah, I think that's true.

00:42:03.000 One American doesn't do it unless they're a criminal thinking, I don't care about anybody but myself. 0.84

00:42:08.000 Yeah, I mean, at this point, they're also portrayed as martyrs, too.

00:42:13.000 I mean, you go back, I do believe a little bit of this has to do with the Luigi effect, right?

00:42:17.000 Where this guy has been raised up to the point where he is a saint in the eyes of so many people because he murdered a healthcare CEO in cold blood.

00:42:25.000 And now with all these politicians out there, obviously Democrats, coming out and calling these guys Nazis, Gestapo, you know, every name in the book, constantly villainizing these people, they're empowered to go out and do this.

00:42:40.000 And I mean, they're like, spend a few minutes on Reddit and look what they have to say about these kind of people.

00:42:45.000 I mean, it is a disease at this point.

00:42:48.000 And I don't know how we pull out of this.

00:42:49.000 It's going to continue getting uglier unless we put the foot down.

00:42:53.000 Can we just take a pause for a second and point out how ABC said, quote, a protester was seen firing some kind of weapon?

00:43:02.000 I think the moment you're looking at a person opening fire, you say insurgents or terrorist.

00:43:08.000 Yeah, they've broken ranks with the protest if they're opening fire on cops.

00:43:11.000 They're no longer part of the protest.

00:43:14.000 No, the protest has become a riot or an insurgent action.

00:43:19.000 Because I'll tell you what's going to happen.

00:43:21.000 Not everybody in the group obviously is going to agree with a guy shooting at someone.

00:43:24.000 They're probably going to freak out and be like, I ain't sign up for this.

00:43:26.000 But I guarantee you, a bunch of these people are going to be like, we will hide you and protect you.

00:43:30.000 But you might also have an agitator in the crowd with them, and then they open fire.

00:43:35.000 So you don't want to blame the whole crowd for one guy stepping out and doing.

00:43:38.000 I disagree.

00:43:39.000 I mean, honestly, you have to.

00:43:41.000 You know why?

00:43:42.000 Because when they all wear black masks and jeans and hoodies so that you can't prosecute and figure out who is doing the shooting, and then when they're told, show up doing this to obfuscate and cover it up, you got yourselves a unified action.

00:43:53.000 So going into it with the black block, just know you're part of whatever any of these other black block people do is what you're saying. 0.66

00:43:59.000 You can protest in other places.

00:44:02.000 They're going to where ICE is trying to conduct operations.

00:44:04.000 They can go downtown, hold up signs, and protest these blah, blah, blah operations and stuff without actually trying to prevent the police from doing what the police are supposed to do.

00:44:14.000 So if they go there where the police are actually trying to perform operations, round them all up, put them in jail, even if it's only vicious conspiracy.

00:44:25.000 What is?

00:44:26.000 What these people are doing.

00:44:28.000 That's just one of the charges.

00:44:30.000 Attempted murder is the next charge.

00:44:32.000 For sure.

00:44:32.000 That guy with the gun.

00:44:33.000 Yeah, attempted murder.

00:44:34.000 In D.C., when Trump first got elected, hundreds of far leftists were rampaging through the city, smashing windows and starting fires.

00:44:40.000 And they all wore the same clothes intentionally so that you couldn't figure out who did what.

00:44:45.000 And that way, even if the cop watched a guy, he's wearing all black. 0.73

00:44:50.000 He throws a brick and the cop grabs him and says, I got him.

00:44:52.000 He threw the brick.

00:44:53.000 What would happen is they'd go to court, they'd say jury trial, and then to the jury, the defense would say, what clothing was the defendant wearing?

00:45:03.000 He was wearing a black hoodie with a black mask, sunglasses, and black jeans.

00:45:08.000 And was there anyone else wearing this?

00:45:09.000 Yes, they were all wearing it.

00:45:11.000 So is there a possibility you grabbed the wrong person?

00:45:13.000 No, I saw him do it.

00:45:14.000 That's him.

00:45:15.000 Then they say to the jury, do you really believe, imagine in your own mind, that there is a crowd of 300 people all wearing the exact same clothes.

00:45:24.000 You can say beyond a reasonable doubt, you grabbed the correct person, especially in the mayhem Of pepper spray and rocks being thrown.

00:45:32.000 And the jury goes, agreed.

00:45:34.000 They dismissed all the charges.

00:45:35.000 And that's, I don't know, that's literally what happened.

00:45:37.000 That's the intention.

00:45:38.000 That's what they want it to be.

00:45:40.000 The government tried charging them with conspiracy by saying, when you show up wearing these clothes so that you can cover up for the people who are violent, you're in a conspiracy.

00:45:49.000 And it was thrown out.

00:45:50.000 It was dismissed.

00:45:51.000 And then Antifa, various individuals, sued the city and won a million bucks.

00:45:56.000 If you want to get, let me get this out.

00:45:58.000 I want to hear what you say.

00:45:59.000 No, no, no.

00:46:00.000 I was scoffing at that fact.

00:46:01.000 To call it a seditious conspiracy, if you can find funding for this and it's organized, yes, that is a seditious conspiracy.

00:46:08.000 They're trying to overthrow the...

00:46:12.000 It's a broad.

00:46:13.000 I was listening to you guys argue.

00:46:14.000 It's literally right here.

00:46:15.000 If two or more persons, if two or more persons in any state or territory in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States conspire to overthrow, put down, destroy by force the government to levy war against them or to oppose by force the authority thereof or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprison not more than 20 years or both.

00:46:42.000 If you are dressing up to cover up for other people, when you say we can't blame the whole group, I understand what you're saying, but I will counter with this.

00:46:51.000 They know violence is a high probability and is likely.

00:46:55.000 They know the reason they wear those clothes is to protect others who engage in violence.

00:47:00.000 If someone then draws a gun and opens fire, it's exactly what these people signed up for.

00:47:05.000 And considering that five days ago, a group of people, currently there's an FBI manhunt underway for one of the accomplices in the shooting on an ICE facility.

00:47:15.000 There is no excuse, in my opinion, that you have a group of people launching fireworks at an ICE facility.

00:47:22.000 And when they come out, a guy in the woods shoots a cop in the neck.

00:47:25.000 And these people are going to feign ignorance.

00:47:27.000 We had no idea that was going on.

00:47:28.000 Yeah, well, it happened twice.

00:47:30.000 So you expect me to believe that two instances where there was an armed ambush on immigration officers, shooting two cops in three days.

00:47:41.000 And then less than a week later, you show up to this event and a guy draws a gun and you're going to go, I had no idea that could happen.

00:47:47.000 Yes.

00:47:47.000 I'm thinking about like in military conflict, if you are fighting against an enemy platoon and only one of them had a rifle and they're shooting at you, you don't like let all the other ones go.

00:47:57.000 The entire platoon is your target.

00:47:59.000 And you could think of these guys as a platoon of enemies all wearing a uniform.

00:48:03.000 We're not in that domestic warfare situation.

00:48:05.000 We're in the United States.

00:48:06.000 They should all get arrested.

00:48:08.000 They should be charged with accomplices to attempted murder, whatever the charge would be.

00:48:14.000 We cannot be afraid of being called fascists when we enforce the law.

00:48:19.000 Let me just pause real quick.

00:48:21.000 In five days, what are we going on?

00:48:23.000 We're going on six days.

00:48:25.000 Leftists in three different instances have opened fire on law enforcement who have sworn an oath to the Constitution to uphold its laws and enforce them as they have been passed by Congress.

00:48:36.000 Donald Trump won the popular vote.

00:48:39.000 What these law enforcement officers are doing is the will of the voters, that is democracy.

00:48:44.000 The agents came out with less lethal weapons because they're not trying to cause permanent harm to the people who are protesting.

00:48:50.000 In response, they opened fire.

00:48:52.000 I am surprised at the restraint of these law enforcement, considering in the past week, we've seen two ambushes.

00:49:00.000 You'd think these officers would already be coming out with at least one guy prepped to use lethal force to put down an armed terrorist ambush.

00:49:09.000 With a group like this and one guy pulling out a gun and opening fire, they all must be arrested and charged.

00:49:17.000 We cannot be sitting here saying, no, no, no, no, hold on, guys.

00:49:20.000 Let's just err in the benefit of the doubt that these people had no idea that there was going to be another armed ambush for the third time in a week.

00:49:26.000 No, no, no, no.

00:49:26.000 We can't do that.

00:49:27.000 These people need to be made aware of a few things.

00:49:30.000 One, we believe that based on the news, let me pause it like this.

00:49:37.000 These protesters know more about the protests than you do, than I do, than anyone, any of us here or anyone online, because they're directly involved in the organization of these things.

00:49:45.000 So you have to go to me and say, who do you think knows more about the planned actions?

00:49:51.000 The actual people on the ground in that moment or strangers on the internet?

00:49:57.000 And I'm going to say, I'm pretty sure the people who are there, who are told when to be there and why they should be there, know more.

00:50:02.000 Okay.

00:50:03.000 So then you think it's likely that these people are aware of the ambush on CBP and ICE last week?

00:50:09.000 Probably yes.

00:50:10.000 Because these people are having meetings about resistance to ICE.

00:50:15.000 So the probability they know that there is violence against cops, two cops have been shot, is substantially greater than the average American.

00:50:23.000 When they show up within the same week and a guy draws a gun, I say, if you are in these groups of people that are attempting to kill law enforcement, you will get arrested and charged.

00:50:34.000 And what does that mean?

00:50:34.000 Maybe we don't go seditious conspiracy.

00:50:36.000 Maybe you want to be a little forgiving.

00:50:40.000 Fine.

00:50:40.000 That means they get a charge with accomplice to attempted murder or assaulted an officer, whatever it might be.

00:50:46.000 But they all must be arrested and charged for the actions of the one guy with the gun.

00:50:49.000 Makes me think of January 6th with all those people getting arrested that were just there, trespassing, the Trump up charges, and similar with the riot or it is completely different, Ian.

00:51:00.000 If there had been a riot at the Capitol and then three days later, another riot at the Capitol, and then a week later, a thousand people showed up and there was a riot at the Capitol, I'd say, at what point are we going to be like, yo, those people knew a riot was going to happen?

00:51:12.000 Like, it's the third time it happened.

00:51:13.000 Well, the government said they knew beforehand.

00:51:16.000 Without evidence.

00:51:16.000 They hit seditious...

00:51:17.000 Well, they text like, The people who walked in and were milling about it there were some people that were planning to get out.

00:51:26.000 If you rioted, you should have been arrested on January 1st.

00:51:28.000 You had to define riot.

00:51:29.000 Is it yelling?

00:51:31.000 No, it was the people who were punching cops and smashing windows and forcing their way into the window.

00:51:35.000 The people were blocking, standing between that guy and the other cop.

00:51:40.000 So you're saying the people who are involved in the riot and there is evidence that they were violent towards cops and smashed and vandalized, you charge them for sharing.

00:51:48.000 And that guy that fired the gun, you charge him for firing the gun.

00:51:51.000 That's right.

00:51:52.000 Because this is the third time and, right, this is the third time we've had an ambush on law enforcement and these people are coordinated and organized, it's a little bit different.

00:52:02.000 If there was a random group of people that, okay, after the shooting, let's say right now, because this is live, let's say they disperse.

00:52:09.000 Then seven people walk up and are walking around, pointing cameras.

00:52:13.000 If the cops went to those random people and arrest them and charge you with conspiracy, I completely agree.

00:52:17.000 That makes no sense.

00:52:18.000 They had no idea what was going on.

00:52:19.000 They're walking down a public road.

00:52:21.000 For the people on January 6th who walked up to a building on the other side where there's no riot and the doors were already open and they're like, I don't know, it's a public building.

00:52:28.000 You're normally allowed to go in it.

00:52:29.000 Why charge those people?

00:52:30.000 This is the difference.

00:52:32.000 Anybody who was in the riot, I believe, should have been charged.

00:52:34.000 Now, I agree with the pardons on J6 because three years is long enough.

00:52:38.000 It's a little too long for a riot, in my opinion.

00:52:40.000 A couple of years is fine for assaulting an officer and vandalizing and desecrating or whatever you want to call it.

00:52:46.000 I think you would have to prove that the people in the crowd with that guy who opened fire had been there before in order to say that they were conspiring.

00:52:55.000 Yeah, I don't care.

00:52:56.000 I'm going to say this one more time.

00:52:59.000 I don't care what terrorists who are trying to murder cops say about me.

00:53:03.000 That's what they said about the January 6th people.

00:53:06.000 It doesn't matter, Ian, because you're completely wrong.

00:53:08.000 Facts are on our side.

00:53:09.000 What are you talking about?

00:53:10.000 Okay, good.

00:53:12.000 Let's try this one more time.

00:53:13.000 We here read and watch the news all day, every day, and we are well aware of the true facts of January 6th.

00:53:19.000 That is, a riot did occur.

00:53:20.000 It was bad.

00:53:21.000 People did assault officers.

00:53:23.000 That is bad.

00:53:23.000 Vandalism occurred.

00:53:24.000 That is bad.

00:53:25.000 But the state went after people who didn't do anything.

00:53:29.000 People who an hour later were walking around on the grass, or Owen Schroyer, who never went in the building, or Brennan Strzok, who never went in the building.

00:53:36.000 I am saying these people are actively in a small group during the same week where two other immigration officers were fired upon, and they're dressing in a way where they were told to dress to coordinate their actions.

00:53:52.000 The uniform's interesting.

00:53:53.000 Maybe you could argue if they're there in uniform.

00:53:56.000 I would argue this.

00:53:58.000 Again, if there was a riot at the Capitol, and then three days later, there was a riot at the Capitol, and then three days later, there was a riot at the Capitol.

00:54:08.000 At that point, I'd argue, I think the people who are showing up are well aware that the intention is to riot at the Capitol.

00:54:14.000 Now, I don't know about hunting them down across the country and trying to give them 20 years.

00:54:18.000 Like I said, three years was too long.

00:54:20.000 But for these people who are shooting cops, nobody on January 6th shot a cop.

00:54:24.000 The media lied about cops dying.

00:54:26.000 So what do you get charged with for assaulting an officer in a riot?

00:54:29.000 Maybe a couple of years.

00:54:30.000 Instead, they put people in solitary for three without even giving them a trial in some circumstances or withholding evidence.

00:54:36.000 That's dramatically different.

00:54:37.000 My point is you've got a cluster of like 20 people who have meetings, direct action.

00:54:42.000 They've organized, they've shut up, and a guy pulled a gun and shot and tried to murder law enforcement.

00:54:46.000 I want to know the funding.

00:54:47.000 I want to know about the organization.

00:54:48.000 This is exactly what I'm talking about.

00:54:49.000 If there is a conspiracy here and people are grouping, it's not just emergent.

00:54:53.000 We got to know who.

00:54:54.000 Like you said, what do we do?

00:54:55.000 How do we stop this without bringing the boot down?

00:54:57.000 You figure out who's paying these people.

00:54:59.000 There's a global culture war right now.

00:55:00.000 Bring the boot down. 0.97

00:55:01.000 Maybe you got to do both, but you've got to figure out why is this?

00:55:04.000 Because if you just stop these, new people will emerge and do the same role if it's being funded by a communist global organization.

00:55:11.000 I'm using the same argument that you were using with the pedophiles, too.

00:55:15.000 Trying to stop the person doesn't stop the behavior.

00:55:18.000 But you know, I want to talk about this part.

00:55:21.000 Sorry, just one last point.

00:55:22.000 Maybe when people who show up and provide cover for armed terrorists who are trying to murder cops, maybe when they get arrested and charged, and again, I'll say this, for the people that are party to that group who are apprised of the meeting and the action and the plans, maybe they'll say, I had no idea he'd draw a gun.

00:55:40.000 Okay, well, you still get a year in jail for that.

00:55:43.000 You are party to a group that tried to murder police, okay?

00:55:46.000 Maybe when that happens, people stop showing up and giving cover to armed terrorists who are trying to murder law enforcement.

00:55:53.000 If you're there in a uniform, man, and somebody else with your uniform on opens fire, commits a crime, I mean, your organization should be called a terrorist for one.

00:56:01.000 Let me ask you this.

00:56:02.000 What do you think would happen if your buddy asked, he said, hey, can you give me a ride to the bank real quick?

00:56:06.000 I got to deposit a check.

00:56:07.000 Oh, and he went and robbed the bank.

00:56:08.000 And then he pulls out a gun and runs the building.

00:56:10.000 Of course.

00:56:10.000 You're an accomplice, even though you didn't know.

00:56:11.000 You might get a reduced charge if you truly didn't know what was going on, but I would imagine you'd be implicated.

00:56:18.000 Yeah, but you were talking about the issue where people are afraid, especially on the Republican side, of being called fascists or whatever.

00:56:24.000 But the political ramifications of that, I don't think, you know, outside of like MSNBC pundits and such, that run-of-the-mill Americans are not going to side with you on cracking down on rioters that are opening fire on police officers.

00:56:41.000 This is still a 60% 70%.

00:56:44.000 It's how Americans want to see illegals deported. 0.72

00:56:49.000 They don't want to see police being injured.

00:56:52.000 They don't want to see rioters.

00:56:53.000 It goes further than that when you're talking about shooting police officers.

00:56:55.000 What are we at?

00:56:55.000 80-20 now?

00:56:56.000 Well, I mean, that's the thing.

00:56:58.000 This is such a safe bet for the Trump administration to bring the boot down on because nobody likes this stuff.

00:57:05.000 Nobody wants to see rioters.

00:57:07.000 Nobody wants to see people hurting cops.

00:57:09.000 Nobody wants to see illegals staying in the country and taking spaces at the hospital, taking up spaces on any kind of government assistance roles. 1.00

00:57:20.000 The American people have made it very clear that they want to see deportations of illegal immigrants, not just criminal aliens, but actually the ones that are committing crimes, but even people that are here illegally.

00:57:31.000 And if they're just trying to keep their head down, the American people want to see illegal sent home.

00:57:36.000 This is not a hard problem for the administration.

00:57:38.000 So what are we waiting for at this point, though?

00:57:41.000 I mean, do we have to wait until one is actually killed before we put the boot down?

00:57:46.000 Let me jump to this story.

00:57:46.000 We've got this on the post-millennial.

00:57:48.000 Wanted FBI manhunt underway for armed antifa suspect allegedly involved in the ambush shooting outside ICE detention center in Texas.

00:57:57.000 Benjamin Hanil Song, 32 of Dallas, is wanted for attempted murder and is considered armed and dangerous.

00:58:03.000 So we got somebody on the rung.

00:58:05.000 They say the FBI believes Song purchased four of the firearms connected to the premeditated attack, which was allegedly carried out by a North Texas anti-facelle.

00:58:13.000 Ten heavily armed members of the cell have been arrested and charged with attempted murder and other crimes.

00:58:19.000 On July 4th, local and federal officers were lured to the area outside an ICE facility in Alvarado, Texas, and found themselves fired upon by a group of heavily armed militants dressed in black military-style clothing, according to the criminal complaint, one officer was shot in the neck but survived.

00:58:34.000 Authorities said the gunmen fired approximately 20 to 30 rounds of ammo using AR-15 style rifles.

00:58:40.000 So I got a question.

00:58:43.000 Shot in the neck area from an AR-15, the presumption is that's going to be what?

00:58:48.000 2-2-3 or 5-5-6?

00:58:49.000 Yep.

00:58:51.000 Seriously.

00:58:52.000 Because if you actually got in the neck with it, it's going to cavitate, isn't it?

00:58:56.000 It's going to vaporize a lot of your.

00:58:57.000 Yeah.

00:58:59.000 He probably got nicked.

00:59:00.000 Thankfully, it was on the level of the shot that Trump got because he was released.

00:59:06.000 So it didn't get a significant amount of...

00:59:10.000 This is crazy.

00:59:14.000 This guy is on the run.

00:59:15.000 They say the FBI believes Song hid in the woods for roughly 24 hours after the ambush before escaping on foot.

00:59:22.000 An FBI agent wrote in the court filing that Song's cell phone was traced near the scene of the crime beginning at 11.30 p.m. shortly after the attack and remained in the area through the day of July 5th.

00:59:32.000 This guy laid and waited for a day.

00:59:35.000 These people are not messing around.

00:59:37.000 We had Yoram on the show on Monday and he says, didn't we see this in the 2020 riots?

00:59:42.000 People are shooting cops.

00:59:43.000 And I said, no.

00:59:44.000 While we did see cops get shot, this is militant.

00:59:49.000 The stuff we saw in the 2020 riots was more wanton.

00:59:53.000 There was an instance where that guy with a sniper rifle went up on the roof in Texas.

00:59:57.000 Absolutely.

00:59:58.000 This is now two instances of organized, like strategized action.

01:00:04.000 That is, these people were heavily armed.

01:00:07.000 One guy hid for the ambush.

01:00:09.000 They acted like routine protesters launching fireworks.

01:00:12.000 And when the cops walked out, they unloaded with a rifle.

01:00:15.000 This is like, okay, they say there's sleeper cells in the United States, potentially, from all this illegal people coming in.

01:00:20.000 Of course, they're not gonna come out and be like, nine of them be like, "We are from Iran, and we will take..." They're going to go into an Antifa protest.

01:00:28.000 They're going to be the one with the gun, try and get all their other American protesters arrested. 0.84

01:00:33.000 So it's like a double win for them.

01:00:34.000 Not only do they get to go after the government and scare everybody, they get to screw over all these other protesters.

01:00:39.000 I'm not saying this guy was an insurgent or anything.

01:00:42.000 I'm just saying this kind of thing, it's going to like you see one guy here, one guy here, one guy in that group.

01:00:47.000 They could be foreign terrorists.

01:00:50.000 Do we actually know?

01:00:51.000 It says he's of Dallas, Texas.

01:00:53.000 Do we actually know, or is this like Maryland man from El Salvador?

01:00:56.000 Song, so he's not.

01:00:58.000 He probably hasn't been in the United States for six generations.

01:01:00.000 The guy's obviously got some Asian heritage, maybe Chinese, I don't know.

01:01:04.000 Song Korean.

01:01:05.000 Not that the first thing I thought was, oh, great.

01:01:06.000 Is he a Chinese nationalist?

01:01:08.000 That's the first thing I thought.

01:01:08.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:01:09.000 I'm like, get this racist shit out of your head, dude. 1.00

01:01:11.000 But where else? 1.00

01:01:14.000 What?

01:01:15.000 I had another piece I'm going to come up with in a minute.

01:01:18.000 Well, I mean, look, apparently this is the guy that was kind of like facilitating for everybody.

01:01:23.000 And he's pretty well known among people that are on the left and people that follow the left.

01:01:30.000 I guess Andy No was saying that he's had interactions with this guy as well.

01:01:34.000 So look, this kind of stuff is just going to continue to escalate.

01:01:38.000 That's what I'm thinking is they're getting away with it.

01:01:39.000 I'm like, okay, this story is already written.

01:01:42.000 The story of reality of humanity.

01:01:44.000 Like we're just living a predestined thing where, oh, now Palantir is going to take over.

01:01:48.000 They're going to have a super spy program domestically.

01:01:50.000 They're going to have drones in the sky above us constantly for our own safety to make sure that we find all the illegal things.

01:01:57.000 And that's the reality we're talking about.

01:01:58.000 California in the next 30 years.

01:01:59.000 California is doing that with fireworks.

01:02:00.000 There's a guy that's going to get off $100,000 fine because in the LA area, because he was setting off fireworks and the police had drones just, you know.

01:02:10.000 It's $1,000 per firework.

01:02:12.000 And even if it's at your house and you're not there, you still get charged with it because they passed a law that social happenings at your dwelling are your responsibility, so you get fined for it too.

01:02:24.000 So if I go into my neighbor's vacation house and start blasting off fireworks for July 4th, he gets charged with it.

01:02:30.000 I'm good.

01:02:31.000 It's fantastic.

01:02:32.000 Yeah.

01:02:34.000 Legal doesn't mean good.

01:02:35.000 So we get this over-obsessed system of legality where everyone's like, it can't happen because it's illegal.

01:02:41.000 Yes.

01:02:42.000 Hey, dude, this is getting nuts.

01:02:44.000 ICE using Blackhawks to support the farm raids.

01:02:46.000 Watch this video.

01:02:47.000 Who have showed up to vehemently protest what's going on here.

01:02:51.000 And just for the last Border Patrol helicopter has entered the scene here.

01:02:57.000 They are landing in the middle of the farm as we speak.

01:02:59.000 It will appear that they were not planning to be here as long as they have been.

01:03:04.000 And so this helicopter that you're looking at here, guys, apparently just made a run over to Van Nuys Airport for some cases of water, which is what they're bringing into the scene here.

01:03:14.000 So there are a whole team of ICE.

01:03:17.000 They're just hydrating law enforcement.

01:03:20.000 I thought they were dispatching more units.

01:03:22.000 They're definitely showing.

01:03:24.000 But they were doing that during the LA riots.

01:03:26.000 They did bring a Blackhawk in and unload tactical gear with it.

01:03:29.000 So we know that they are, and I just looked at the registration on that.

01:03:31.000 That is a DHS helicopter. 0.69

01:03:34.000 This is, let me just say, holy crap, what we're starting to see this past week.

01:03:40.000 And I hope it's a blip. 0.95

01:03:41.000 You know, when the 2020 riots happened, we said, we hope it's a blip.

01:03:46.000 And it got bad over that year and the next year with violence.

01:03:49.000 And then we kind of had a lull where probably because Biden was in charge, Antifa wasn't going as hard as it did in 2020.

01:03:57.000 But Trump is president now.

01:03:59.000 He's enacting the will of the people.

01:04:01.000 And we're on what, month six?

01:04:05.000 And we're not even.

01:04:06.000 And now we've seen militant strategic ambushes on law enforcement.

01:04:12.000 I don't see how this goes away.

01:04:13.000 I think it escalates.

01:04:14.000 I think it escalates to the point where we are forced to deploy the military and have military intervention.

01:04:21.000 I mean, what is the incentive for them to slow down and stop right now?

01:04:24.000 There's hardly anything.

01:04:26.000 We have this conversation like every other week, almost, where we ask the question amongst ourselves, what is the logic behind a de-escalation?

01:04:33.000 It would only be to enhance stability, domestic stability, in case there's a global conflict and a war.

01:04:39.000 Like the Russians in 1916, the Russian Revolution screwed the Russian empire out of World War I. They couldn't even fight in the war because there's domestic. 0.97

01:04:51.000 This is all about domestic stuff.

01:04:52.000 I mean, this isn't really international.

01:04:54.000 I wish borders protected us, but it's all international at this point.

01:04:58.000 This is not accidental.

01:05:00.000 This is a global move.

01:05:01.000 The culture war, they call it, is like they're using internet to seed communities of people to do uprisings.

01:05:09.000 They're funding probably crypto being passed behind black channels.

01:05:13.000 It's all connected, man.

01:05:15.000 Yeah, it is.

01:05:15.000 And I tell you, communism, fascism, global tyranny would love probably the most thing they would love at all to see the United States fall is to see this democracy kill itself.

01:05:23.000 It would be the ultimate win for, like you said, this experiment of freedom where we're all kind of legally equal.

01:05:30.000 It's real new.

01:05:32.000 It's tenuous at best.

01:05:34.000 So that would be the one reason to de-escalate is to maintain stability.

01:05:38.000 But that doesn't necessarily mean in the long run that we would be stabilizing.

01:05:41.000 There are a million reasons to de-escalate.

01:05:43.000 There's an infinite number of reasons to de-escalate.

01:05:46.000 The question is, what is the logic for a path that results in de-escalation?

01:05:51.000 There isn't one.

01:05:52.000 Well, off the top of my head, maybe not, but yeah, I like that. 0.88

01:05:56.000 Hypothetically, Donald Trump crushes them and then stops.

01:05:59.000 He goes in with a heavy hand and then they stop.

01:06:01.000 But I think I don't know that Trump would go heavy enough.

01:06:06.000 And like I said, the right is scared of being called a fascist or fascists.

01:06:10.000 So they keep saying, oh, we better not.

01:06:12.000 We better not.

01:06:12.000 And it's like, okay, well, the reason why we're seeing this degree of violence is because when the far left came out with explosives, they didn't get arrested.

01:06:20.000 And so the college kids and the people they were recruiting, they were like, look, if you come out and join us, you won't get arrested.

01:06:24.000 It never happens.

01:06:26.000 Okay.

01:06:26.000 And so the next step is obviously guns.

01:06:29.000 I think you have to crack down on it because it's like a fire, a brush fire right now.

01:06:33.000 And it's multiple brush fires.

01:06:35.000 And if you don't put them out, one of those can create a forest fire, which can destroy your entire ecosystem.

01:06:42.000 And I saw that in 2020. 0.99

01:06:44.000 I was like, why did he not bring out the National Guard day two of those stupid riots? 1.00

01:06:46.000 I'm like, why is this still happening? 0.99

01:06:48.000 Why has three days have gone by and it hasn't been quelled?

01:06:50.000 And you know, they call it pacification.

01:06:52.000 That's the word that the militant conquerors want to use about like, we're just bringing peace and stability.

01:06:57.000 We're pacifying the populace.

01:06:58.000 Well, what does that mean?

01:06:59.000 They're going in there and stomping it down with guns, swords.

01:07:03.000 Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.

01:07:05.000 I know it's probably cliche to see if we go down the Roman Republic route and the Republic, as we'd call it, crumbles and it becomes something else.

01:07:14.000 I mean, we called it the Roman Empire after the fact, but I don't know that we would do that because people have an aversion to that.

01:07:19.000 Begging for a strong man like Caesar, that would be Trump, and then giving him massive authorities.

01:07:24.000 Caesar took it, or they basically gave it to him.

01:07:28.000 Jack, we asked it to him.

01:07:29.000 In the event that, like, let's say within a year, this is 100 times worse.

01:07:34.000 Trump's going to be granted emergency powers.

01:07:36.000 He's going to insurrection act the entire country.

01:07:38.000 He should be impeached if it's 100 times worse.

01:07:40.000 He's not doing his job. 0.79

01:07:41.000 Trump should be impeached if insurgent, leftist, violent terrorists are attacking the country.

01:07:45.000 We need a real president that would stop that from happening. 0.79

01:07:48.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

01:07:48.000 I kind of interrupted what you were saying.

01:07:50.000 If someone were, a president were to let this get 100 times worse, they should not be our president.

01:07:53.000 That's ineffectual leadership.

01:07:54.000 Oh, so you think they need to bring down...

01:07:59.000 I'm kind of with you.

01:08:00.000 I mean, I think you have to crack down.

01:08:02.000 Like, you have to bring out heavy weapons.

01:08:05.000 No, you don't bring out heavy weapons.

01:08:06.000 Anything about heavy weapons.

01:08:08.000 I'm talking about heavy weapons.

01:08:09.000 Like, you scare the shit out of the people that are doing it. 0.64

01:08:11.000 They should have one cop right there armed with a rifle for the phone where the cipher bullets come from where you can't even see kind of thing.

01:08:17.000 So people are like, I just don't even want to go outside.

01:08:19.000 Only in the event.

01:08:20.000 Okay, Ian, only in the event the police are about to be killed.

01:08:23.000 Right.

01:08:23.000 That's my point.

01:08:25.000 I'm saying they should all be arrested and charged as accomplices so that the other people, these young people who join these riots, know you can't be party to these things.

01:08:36.000 We will punish you.

01:08:37.000 You'll be punished. 1.00

01:08:37.000 You'll be arrested. 1.00

01:08:38.000 But when I say it gets 100 times worse, I don't know that there's theoretically any reasonable thing Trump can do to prevent it from getting 100 times worse.

01:08:49.000 If the far left organizes in a short period of time and decides to go out in the streets with rifles and start unloading on law enforcement, that's not something that we just predict is going to happen.

01:08:58.000 Unless you're suggesting Donald Trump begin a mass surveillance program of these people and then arrest them before it can happen.

01:09:04.000 Because it's not just these people.

01:09:05.000 It'll be everybody.

01:09:06.000 That's the problem with mass surveillance.

01:09:10.000 My point was what we are seeing here, some people are suggesting in the comments that these are cannabis growers, probably cartel linked, and that's why they're opening fire.

01:09:20.000 If it does turn out, cartel interests say this is now war, and it is 100 times worse, meaning you are seeing rifle fire from the shrubs, it's the bushes at cops.

01:09:30.000 Cops are in armored, you know, APCs are taking fire.

01:09:33.000 The military is coming in.

01:09:35.000 If something like that were to happen, the American people would say, Donald Trump, we grant you the supreme authority to stop this.

01:09:43.000 And let me just add one more thing.

01:09:45.000 Let me ask you guys this question.

01:09:48.000 Actually, let's do this.

01:09:49.000 Let's start here.

01:09:50.000 I just saw your poll in the chat on YouTube.

01:09:52.000 All right.

01:09:54.000 Let me launch this story from the New York Times because this is a big component of it.

01:09:57.000 Judge blocks Trump's birthright citizenship order in class action challenge.

01:10:03.000 Didn't we do that last week?

01:10:04.000 What?

01:10:05.000 Didn't they just have a finding about this like two weeks ago?

01:10:08.000 The universal injunctions were stopped.

01:10:10.000 But let's start here.

01:10:12.000 What we are seeing right now is Donald Trump's agenda, the will of the people, and the response to the left.

01:10:19.000 There's an institutional conflict happening where judges are trying to stop Trump and the people's agenda.

01:10:24.000 And then you have in the streets, people are shooting at Donald Trump.

01:10:28.000 I'm sorry, they're shooting at Donald Trump's agenda is what I mean to say.

01:10:32.000 They're using guns against law enforcement to prevent the agenda from happening and targeting what we want, you know, stopping what the American people have voted for. 0.55

01:10:41.000 So right now, I want to ask you guys some questions and so we can address how Trump responds to what's been going on.

01:10:47.000 Let me just, for the sake of it, for clarity, people may be just joining this segment for the first time.

01:10:52.000 We have just gotten within the past hour a report and a video of a man opening fire on law enforcement in these raids northwest of L.A. Monday, we had an armed rifle, a man with a rifle ambush CBP officers shooting a cop.

01:11:06.000 And Friday, an organized, militarized group ambushed police outside of an ICE facility.

01:11:12.000 So with that being said, I have a question for you guys.

01:11:15.000 What do you think would have happened if Abraham Lincoln said, after seven states seceded from the Union, if he said, okay, I guess?

01:11:24.000 There would have been two countries, the North and the South, and then they would have went to war.

01:11:27.000 It probably would have been 10 times the blood.

01:11:29.000 Because Two countries can't exist on this continent together alone.

01:11:33.000 Canada and the United States currently exist on this continent.

01:11:35.000 Because New England wants the Gulf of Mexico sea access.

01:11:39.000 They want Pacific Coast access.

01:11:41.000 Let's try this.

01:11:42.000 Nick, what do you think would have happened if Abraham Lincoln said, okay, when the South seceded?

01:11:47.000 Well, I mean, it depends.

01:11:50.000 Are we talking about what would Northern Patriots have done?

01:11:52.000 I mean, I don't think that we would have actually allowed that to happen.

01:11:56.000 In the event, Abraham Lincoln said, seven states have seceded from the Union.

01:12:00.000 Okay.

01:12:02.000 What happens next?

01:12:03.000 Well, he wouldn't have been elected again.

01:12:05.000 That's probably true.

01:12:06.000 Okay.

01:12:06.000 All right.

01:12:07.000 So four years later or three years later, I think, yeah, it would have been four years later because the secession happened before he got in.

01:12:12.000 So he gets in.

01:12:14.000 So before he even got into office, seven states had seceded.

01:12:17.000 He gets in and says, guys, we accept this.

01:12:19.000 So he wouldn't get elected again.

01:12:20.000 Let's just pause there.

01:12:21.000 There will be, right?

01:12:22.000 Phil, what do you think would happen?

01:12:23.000 I think that there would be foreign powers trying to influence the United States and the Confederate states.

01:12:30.000 The stability of both of the countries would have been in question.

01:12:34.000 I think that it's possible that the southern states might have actually aligned with like France or something like that.

01:12:42.000 Okay, with Spain.

01:12:43.000 Right.

01:12:44.000 And so over a long period of time, there'd be trade disputes and quabbles.

01:12:47.000 Squabbles.

01:12:48.000 Wow.

01:12:48.000 Surprisingly, you know what wouldn't have happened?

01:12:50.000 The Civil War.

01:12:51.000 Yeah.

01:12:51.000 Well, that's why I said a war would have broken out.

01:12:53.000 I think it would have.

01:12:53.000 It just would have been a global war with foreign powers funding both sides.

01:13:00.000 My question to you is, what would have happened if Abraham Lincoln decided not to engage the citizens?

01:13:05.000 In the short term, there would have been a successful secession, and in the long term, there would have been a horrible war.

01:13:09.000 We're not talking long term.

01:13:10.000 The point I'm making is the Civil War started because Abraham Lincoln put his boot down and said, we are not going to let the Union dissolve.

01:13:16.000 The South was content to sit where they were and said no.

01:13:19.000 And Abraham Lincoln said, well, actually, Fort Sumter was Abraham Lincoln, it was basically the U.S. government saying, look, this is our base.

01:13:27.000 You can't have it.

01:13:28.000 And then the Battle of Bull Run was the North basically saying, we will fight you for this.

01:13:34.000 And then after that, Abraham Lincoln said, we are going to amass troops and go down to the South.

01:13:39.000 That's why Southerners called the War of Northern Aggression.

01:13:42.000 But I'll say this, slavery is evil.

01:13:44.000 So Abraham Lincoln said the Union will not be dissolved.

01:13:47.000 He did not issue the Emancipation Proclamation to free slaves.

01:13:51.000 He did it to destabilize the South, as evidenced by the fact that Maryland and Delaware were allowed to keep their slaves.

01:13:56.000 The point being, Abraham Lincoln said, I will suspend the Constitution where I see fit.

01:14:03.000 I will arrest the Maryland legislature where I see fit.

01:14:06.000 And he is called the greatest president in this country.

01:14:09.000 It was the Baltimore riot is why he suspended habeas corpus.

01:14:12.000 There was this riot in Baltimore.

01:14:13.000 It was too close to the Capitol.

01:14:14.000 It was a big threat. 1.00

01:14:15.000 So he's like, fuck, fuck it. 1.00

01:14:17.000 Arrest them all. 1.00

01:14:17.000 No matter what. 1.00

01:14:18.000 Don't care.

01:14:19.000 Don't care why.

01:14:20.000 No evidence needed.

01:14:21.000 You lock them up and you keep them there forever.

01:14:23.000 They were at war.

01:14:23.000 And he did.

01:14:24.000 Yeah.

01:14:24.000 This is before.

01:14:27.000 This is the start of the war where he decided.

01:14:30.000 Are you sure?

01:14:31.000 Well, look it up.

01:14:32.000 Because if it was mid-war, my point is the beginning of the war established territories.

01:14:39.000 The U.S. government, Abraham Lincoln, basically said, we need a corridor between Pennsylvania and D.C., and Maryland is a slave state with Southern sympathies.

01:14:49.000 So he arrested a third of the Maryland legislature because they were sympathetic to the South and a slave state so that they would not rise against him.

01:14:56.000 And he suspended habeas corpus in a corridor from Pennsylvania to D.C. so that they wouldn't be obstructed.

01:15:00.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:15:01.000 It was the Baltimore riots of 1861 right at the beginning, considered the first bloodshed of the American Civil War.

01:15:06.000 Huge riot broke out in Baltimore and then they had military clampdowns.

01:15:09.000 And so my point is the right is so afraid of being called fascists and that they don't enforce the law as it's written, let alone what Abraham Lincoln did.

01:15:19.000 Had Abraham Lincoln not done that, that probably the United States would not be here today.

01:15:24.000 Agreed.

01:15:24.000 And so my point is, all I'm saying is that Donald Trump should use the laws placed before him within the constitutional powers that have already been adjudicated, the Insurrection Act, for instance.

01:15:37.000 He just won on the National Guard case last month and shut down these extremists how he needs to so that we do not escalate to that point.

01:15:46.000 And my counter is you are the process that you commit.

01:15:50.000 So what we do, how we get there is going to dictate what we are when it's over with.

01:15:54.000 But at the same time, Lincoln shut down habeas corpus and then brought it back.

01:15:58.000 Like you don't have, just because you do a horrible tyrannical thing or just a dangerously powerfully tyrannical thing doesn't mean that that's always going to be how it is forever after that.

01:16:07.000 Like there are going to be moments of crackdown.

01:16:10.000 Right.

01:16:11.000 So the way I look at it right now is there will come a time where a line is drawn and we don't know what that line will be or when it will be or how or where.

01:16:21.000 Abraham Lincoln had a choice.

01:16:23.000 He could have said, hey guys, I'm getting into office in a couple months and these seven states have declared secession.

01:16:29.000 There was a period where for several months, they were just operating as if they were the Confederacy.

01:16:35.000 Then Abraham Lincoln, so after Abraham Lincoln got elected, he was president-elect, they declared they were seceding out of fears that he would shut down slavery, which would damage their economy.

01:16:45.000 The actual argument from Lincoln was, no, no, you can keep your slaves, just no new slaves anywhere else.

01:16:50.000 That was still a threat to them because you had bleeding Kansas for seven years where people were shooting each other over slaves like John Brown.

01:16:55.000 So they secede.

01:16:56.000 Abraham Lincoln, a couple months later, gets in to office and then says, I'm not letting that happen.

01:17:02.000 So Fort Sumter happens.

01:17:04.000 I could be totally wrong about this, but I think it was Fort Sumter.

01:17:07.000 No one actually died in the conflict.

01:17:08.000 One person died due to an accident or something.

01:17:11.000 It was like misfire.

01:17:12.000 And then the Battle of Bull Run was bloody.

01:17:15.000 And I believe it was after that Abraham Lincoln, because they were defeated, called upon to send like 15, was it like he called 15,000 troops or something like this.

01:17:23.000 Whatever he ended up doing it, he called for troops to go quell the rebellion, which resulted in four more states seceding and joining the Confederacy, which I think included Virginia.

01:17:32.000 I don't know if, I don't think Virginia seceded initially.

01:17:34.000 It did not.

01:17:35.000 Yeah. 0.92

01:17:36.000 And then because of the actions of Lincoln, basically saying, Constitution be damned, they went, holy crap, this is, we don't want this. 0.95

01:17:43.000 And then he said, don't know, don't care. 0.98

01:17:45.000 I am going to do whatever it takes to preserve the Union and stop you.

01:17:49.000 You're asking where that line is, it seems like.

01:17:52.000 I think the line is kind of obvious at this point, in my opinion anyway.

01:17:55.000 As soon as you see a situation like this where somebody is opening fire and an ICE agent is actually killed, I think that's the line.

01:18:01.000 I think once you cross that, I think the political pressure on Trump by itself is going to force him to act in a swift and strong manner, which is going to require the military.

01:18:12.000 What more assets can DHS bring out on their own?

01:18:15.000 I mean, at this point, they got to be close to tapped out.

01:18:19.000 I mean, you can bring more manpower and stuff in, but at that point, if you're getting ICE agents and such killed, just look at the base.

01:18:27.000 Look at what the base is going to do at that point.

01:18:29.000 They're going to freak the hell out, and President Trump isn't going to have a choice.

01:18:32.000 I think he's going to have to bring in the military.

01:18:34.000 If it's cartel stuff, that got mentioned earlier.

01:18:38.000 If it's actual cartel stuff, I mean, are they considered terrorist organizations at this point?

01:18:41.000 Yes.

01:18:42.000 You do like behind enemy lines.

01:18:44.000 Have you military actions if that's the case?

01:18:46.000 Have you ever watched any of the cartel stuff from Mexico?

01:18:49.000 Like what the cartels actually look like?

01:18:51.000 It's not just like, it's not like the old, you know, like mobster movie stuff.

01:18:56.000 Like they're, they're rolling around with like actual full-on.

01:19:01.000 Snarco tanks?

01:19:02.000 Yeah, they have kit.

01:19:02.000 They have they've got like full-on like 134 Gatlin guns, M2 machine guns.

01:19:08.000 They're all kitted up.

01:19:09.000 They have rocket launchers.

01:19:11.000 They have grenade launchers.

01:19:12.000 It's far closer to what we fought, what the U.S. fought in Afghanistan than it is to, you know, any kind of just, you know, police action stuff.

01:19:20.000 So they were, they would need legitimate military assets to actually engage.

01:19:25.000 Where do they get the weapons from?

01:19:27.000 Well, they have javelins now from Ukraine.

01:19:29.000 So they got them from the market.

01:19:30.000 And that's true.

01:19:31.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:19:32.000 The Sinoloa cartel has javelins.

01:19:34.000 Long-range missiles.

01:19:35.000 Yes.

01:19:36.000 Well, service to air, yeah.

01:19:38.000 Yeah.

01:19:38.000 Like, it's no joke.

01:19:39.000 Like, to take on the cartels would be an endeavor as similar to taking on the terrorists in the Middle East or in Afghanistan.

01:19:50.000 Yeah, it's not as mountainous in Mexico as it is in Afghanistan.

01:19:53.000 I don't think that's a lot of fun.

01:19:53.000 There's mountains.

01:19:55.000 There's mountains on the west of the western side.

01:19:58.000 And even still, the topography isn't as important as it is the weaponry that they have.

01:20:04.000 Right.

01:20:04.000 They're using 2005 weapons, and we have 20, 25 weapons.

01:20:09.000 They're using drones, dude. 0.58

01:20:10.000 They're using 2025 weapons.

01:20:12.000 Let's jump to, so I did pull the story, but let's actually dive into it.

01:20:14.000 We have this from the New York Times.

01:20:16.000 A district court judge in New Hampshire has blocked Trump's birthright citizenship order in a class action challenge.

01:20:22.000 So this was filed by the ACLU, and they sought to create a class of people that was future people or current people born after February 20th and illegal immigrants as their class.

01:20:36.000 So the judge ruled only existing infants are subject to this ruling, but that does mean infants in the entire country.

01:20:45.000 Trump cannot enforce the ban on birthright citizenship for now.

01:20:50.000 So he'll likely appeal this.

01:20:52.000 The interesting thing about it is that because of the way the Supreme Court ruled on district courts and class actions, Trump just needs to create a new class himself.

01:21:00.000 So like make an executive order saying if anybody wants to register their child for their birth, register their birth, they need to have two, they each have to have a legal form of ID on them at the time of, and then what happens is then they're going to be like, that's not fair.

01:21:17.000 And then they're going to, then ACLU will be like, anyone who doesn't have a legal form of ID is our, within our class.

01:21:23.000 And then Trump could just keep doing it.

01:21:25.000 But this is the second case here where they have circumvented this Supreme Court ban on nationwide injunctions by deciding that it's all of a sudden a class action lawsuit.

01:21:34.000 It's not like these infants or their parents signed on to the lawsuit.

01:21:38.000 The judge brought them in by himself.

01:21:40.000 So I don't really understand.

01:21:42.000 At what point is that is that actually allowed?

01:21:46.000 Is that part going to be challenged as well?

01:21:48.000 Because it seems like they're just using a loophole here.

01:21:52.000 What am I missing?

01:21:52.000 I mean, I feel like the...

01:21:57.000 I feel like the administration just should just totally ignore this judge because the Supreme Court's already decided.

01:22:04.000 No, the Supreme Court decided you need a class.

01:22:07.000 Oh, okay.

01:22:08.000 So, all right, yeah, all right.

01:22:09.000 So the circumstance of the ACAU created a class.

01:22:11.000 The judge said this class is protected and that class is all infants. 0.96

01:22:15.000 But everyone's not.

01:22:18.000 Leto specified that this was a downstream effect.

01:22:21.000 So the Supreme Court should step in and say. 0.94

01:22:22.000 The Supreme Court said Trump could not enforce the ban for 30 days, specifically to create leeway for groups to challenge his executive order.

01:22:30.000 But how did they create a class?

01:22:32.000 So they file a class action and they list in their filing, our class is as such, and the judge says yes or no.

01:22:39.000 The judge removed the unborn and adults from the class, creating a singular class of infants.

01:22:48.000 I think it's specifically infants of undocumented parents is the class.

01:22:52.000 And then he said, I roll from the bench.

01:22:54.000 Trump can't do this.

01:22:55.000 They used this, I believe last week, too, this same little loophole thing where they decided that all asylum seekers are a class as well.

01:23:02.000 And so they should be allowed to go through the regular asylum process at the southern border again, you know, after Trump made the executive order kind of shutting that entire thing down.

01:23:12.000 So, I mean, it, but, you know, I don't know the legality of this.

01:23:16.000 I'm assuming that the Trump administration is going to very quickly challenge these two cases, but it seems like we're back where we started.

01:23:25.000 I mean, we're essentially still facing nationwide injunctions under a different name.

01:23:30.000 I mean, am I wrong?

01:23:32.000 Am I missing something?

01:23:33.000 So the issue, there couldn't be an injunction that affects the entire country so long it's not granting relief outside of the plaintiffs.

01:23:41.000 So if it's a class action and the plaintiffs are nationwide, it affects them nationwide.

01:23:44.000 I think that's fine.

01:23:46.000 It creates this path where Trump can just create a bunch of new classes himself.

01:23:50.000 So again, Trump could be like, so let me add that to this.

01:23:53.000 Actually, I was wrong.

01:23:54.000 It's not just the children of undocumented, but also to those born to academics in the U.S. on student visas.

01:24:00.000 What?

01:24:01.000 Weird, weird class, but sure.

01:24:04.000 Anyway.

01:24:04.000 A Chinese guy comes here and he's 23 on a school visa and he has a kid.

01:24:08.000 The kid's an American citizen.

01:24:10.000 That's how it is right now, always.

01:24:11.000 That's so messed up. 0.99

01:24:12.000 It's ridiculous. 0.96

01:24:12.000 So anyway, for Trump, he need only sign another executive order. 0.96

01:24:17.000 And he can do it any way he wants.

01:24:18.000 Like I said, he could do that.

01:24:20.000 You need to have a legal ID when you're registering the birth of your child.

01:24:24.000 Otherwise, that's an illegal registration.

01:24:26.000 That's a void registration.

01:24:28.000 And then basically the illegal immigrants are going to be like, we don't have those. 1.00

01:24:30.000 And they'll be like, well, then we can't register the child.

01:24:32.000 So then they can't claim he was born here.

01:24:33.000 Then they're going to file and sue and say it's unconstitutional.

01:24:36.000 You can't do this. 0.97

01:24:36.000 And they're going to claim black people don't have IDs or something. 0.97

01:24:38.000 And then Trump could just say, okay, he can line up 50 executive orders and say, I will see you all in court on this.

01:24:44.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

01:24:44.000 It's kind of messed up.

01:24:45.000 He can't do that.

01:24:46.000 That's what Cuomo was basically doing in New York.

01:24:48.000 He shut down all the churches.

01:24:50.000 They sued.

01:24:51.000 The judges, the court said, open the churches.

01:24:53.000 And he went, sure, the churches are now hereby opened.

01:24:56.000 And another executive order, slightly different.

01:24:59.000 Can't go to church now.

01:25:00.000 So he kept doing that.

01:25:01.000 Trump could play the same game.

01:25:03.000 He can then say after the IDs, he could say something like, you need proof of residency.

01:25:09.000 You know, that's it.

01:25:11.000 And then they're going to be like, oh, we're going to sue.

01:25:13.000 He could literally just make the same executive order again, and they're going to have to sue him.

01:25:17.000 They were doing it with district court judges.

01:25:19.000 And then it'll have to go to the Supreme Court again, and it would just tie everything up.

01:25:22.000 And in the meantime, in this period, birth recitership is effectively stalled.

01:25:28.000 As long as it keeps going.

01:25:30.000 Stalled in that it's not happening right now or stalled in that.

01:25:33.000 It would be stalled until, I don't know.

01:25:39.000 Trump wins or loses, I guess.

01:25:40.000 Stalled as in kids are American citizens or they're not and they're not. 0.77

01:25:43.000 So that's the law right now?

01:25:45.000 So right now, this injunction stops Trump from enforcing the registration of babies as U.S. citizens, effectively, of the children of non-citizens.

01:25:56.000 So they've put this stay on specifically these kids, which is interesting because it's actually really interesting.

01:26:02.000 Trump actually has a big victory here.

01:26:04.000 If this is the, I want to read this look.

01:26:08.000 It says, the decision applies nationwide to babies who would have been subject to the executive order, which included the children of undocumented parents and those born to academics.

01:26:18.000 My question then is, what about the children born to a tourist?

01:26:24.000 Is Trump still winning a bit on this?

01:26:27.000 Interesting.

01:26:28.000 Because tourists are documented.

01:26:29.000 They just hear on temporary statements.

01:26:30.000 Stay in cards.

01:26:31.000 People here on green cards also.

01:26:32.000 Their kids are not citizens.

01:26:35.000 Right.

01:26:36.000 Well, I guess that is what that would indicate.

01:26:38.000 The judge is just trying to pick away at the mountain.

01:26:41.000 So we're making steps forward here is what you're saying.

01:26:43.000 I mean, little steps.

01:26:45.000 If that's the direction you're heading, speed forward.

01:26:49.000 But yeah, I mean, the kind of the class stuff, that is what Alita was talking about when he.

01:26:54.000 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:26:56.000 Guys, I just never trust the New York Times.

01:27:01.000 Never trust.

01:27:02.000 Noted.

01:27:03.000 So my understanding based on the New York Times reporting, and I always read a couple stories, and then I choose my principal source.

01:27:10.000 And so I had read, you know, like CNN and NBC, and then I said, I'm going to go with the New York Times, got a better headline.

01:27:15.000 I pulled up the actual statement from the ACLU.

01:27:19.000 They may have just banned abortion.

01:27:21.000 No, tell me.

01:27:22.000 Future persons are a legal class, protected and deserving of representation before the courts.

01:27:26.000 Future persons.

01:27:27.000 Oh.

01:27:28.000 ACLU can't make that decision.

01:27:30.000 No, no, no.

01:27:31.000 It's in the court order.

01:27:32.000 It says, in light of the above, this court grants petitioners' motion and provisionally certifies the following class for the purpose of preliminary injunctive relief.

01:27:39.000 All current and future persons who are born on or after February 2025.

01:27:44.000 And then it goes on to add, where that person's mother was unlawfully president of the United States, the person's father was not a U.S. citizen, or a lawful permanent resident at the time of said birth, or the person's mother's president of the U.S. was lawful but temporary, and the person's father was not a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident time.

01:28:00.000 They have just certified future persons as a class deserving of representation and injunctive relief.

01:28:07.000 I should have just read the direct order.

01:28:09.000 That's my fault.

01:28:09.000 I apologize because this is what we've been talking about the whole time.

01:28:13.000 This means every single pro-life group should right now be launching 20 different lawsuits everywhere they can in every single state.

01:28:22.000 This judge just said future persons, like kids that aren't even conceived yet, have a legal right to representation.

01:28:30.000 Holy.

01:28:31.000 The thing is, you can make something a law that doesn't make sense.

01:28:33.000 This sounds like it doesn't make sense.

01:28:35.000 Like if you said it is illegal for a human to fly straight up in the air 7,000 feet, you could pass that law.

01:28:41.000 It would never happen.

01:28:42.000 People don't fly straight up in the air 7,000 feet.

01:28:45.000 So like, what's the point of that law?

01:28:46.000 Same as this.

01:28:47.000 They're not people.

01:28:48.000 There are no future persons to become future persons.

01:28:50.000 You understand?

01:28:52.000 Well, yeah, there are.

01:28:53.000 No, they're not future.

01:28:54.000 They're nothing.

01:28:55.000 There's nothing there.

01:28:56.000 It doesn't become something.

01:28:59.000 Yeah.

01:28:59.000 So unless they're already conceived in the womb, there's no person to say people that aren't even conceived yet in that law.

01:29:06.000 They're indicating that children that have yet to be born in three years from now, which means they're not in the womb at this point.

01:29:11.000 No, no, it's pretty specific.

01:29:13.000 It says, if it says right there, it's in the future persons who are born or after February 20th, 2025.

01:29:20.000 It's very specific.

01:29:20.000 It says right there.

01:29:21.000 Future persons that are born in 29.

01:29:23.000 On or after February 20th.

01:29:25.000 So if a kid's born in 2029, this law would still affect them, even though they haven't been conceived yet now.

01:29:30.000 They're not a future person right now.

01:29:32.000 They're literally saying someone who could be born 20 years from now.

01:29:35.000 A future person means every conceivable human ever.

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:41.000 Like robot.

01:29:42.000 You want to talk about personhood?

01:29:44.000 I think India gave dolphins or elephants personhood or something.

01:29:48.000 Dolphins.

01:29:49.000 Yo, this is wild.

01:29:50.000 All future persons is an infinite statement.

01:29:53.000 A future person could refer to, like you just said, dolphins.

01:29:57.000 Like if in the future personhood is granted to a dolphin.

01:30:00.000 Artificial intelligence personas.

01:30:03.000 So this is, okay, so we had Will Chamberlain on when the Supreme Court issued this ruling.

01:30:08.000 He's an actual lawyer.

01:30:10.000 And we were talking about what does it mean that they argued for future persons?

01:30:14.000 And he was like, I don't know that future persons can have legal standing.

01:30:17.000 Wait, what?

01:30:18.000 And I'm like, that's the class they're seeking to, that's the group they're seeing to form a class against or for.

01:30:24.000 Future person, ignore all the weird semantic problems.

01:30:29.000 What the ACLU meant is a baby in the womb.

01:30:32.000 That's what they meant.

01:30:34.000 I mean, I think they do literally mean someone who was conceived a year from now as well, but they're trying to sneak that in there.

01:30:39.000 They're basically saying a baby in the womb, not yet born, is a future person, and they have legal standing as a class to be represented according to this judge.

01:30:51.000 This means any pro-life group should file with the exact same judge or citing this ruling, argue They would seek injunctive relief to block any abortion so long as this is in effect.

01:31:06.000 Like, is it illegal to kill a future person?

01:31:08.000 That's the question.

01:31:10.000 The argument is simply this: if you can get injunctive relief granted to a future person for the issue of citizenship not yet received, you better damn well be able to protect their life from indeed they're a future person, and you are protecting them from the termination of their life and the inhibition of their future personhood.

01:31:28.000 So, are you saying so are you going to the point where you can say that, okay, a class action lawsuit could be filed by moms for life or something like that, and that class is future persons who were born on or after February 20th, 2025?

01:31:42.000 Is that what you're talking about?

01:31:43.000 Like creating a class out of that with this same judge to block a board?

01:31:47.000 Now, here's what's going to happen.

01:31:48.000 This same judge is probably going to be a liberal or just be like, no.

01:31:52.000 And then we need this to happen right now.

01:31:55.000 Every single pro-life group tweet it out, share it.

01:32:00.000 They need to be filing tomorrow to this same district judge in the same district because he needs to then explain why in one instance he would allow legal standing as a class of future persons for illegal immigrants, but not for those about to be aborted.

01:32:17.000 And then if you simultaneously have in both instances, I do not grant this as a class, then we get to ask the question, why is that?

01:32:26.000 Or he just goes, okay.

01:32:28.000 And then you say, all right, before you can abort a baby, the baby gets representation and that person will represent them before a court.

01:32:36.000 You just, having all the abortion, anti-abortion, pro-life activists saying, I need to legally protect my future child, my future child makes no sense.

01:32:49.000 It violates every norm of the abortion debate. 0.98

01:32:53.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.98

01:32:54.000 And it pokes a hole in this guy's argument. 0.99

01:32:56.000 You cannot legally protect, I mean, you legally protect the unborn. 0.61

01:32:59.000 You can do that, but they don't have order-granting class certifications.

01:33:04.000 They're future persons.

01:33:06.000 Like, they're not persons.

01:33:07.000 You can't have a future person.

01:33:09.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:33:10.000 The unborn in the womb are future persons from a technical standard.

01:33:15.000 Unless they die, you never know.

01:33:17.000 They're a person when they're a person.

01:33:19.000 Right.

01:33:19.000 And that's always.

01:33:20.000 Yeah.

01:33:20.000 You can't do that.

01:33:22.000 This is actually, it needs to be adjudicated in the 14th Amendment, which I've pulled up time and time again.

01:33:27.000 And my belief is that abortion will be abolished because of the 14th Amendment.

01:33:32.000 I think it will too, but that's because they're going to put neural nets in the infants in the womb and be like, oh my God, they're smarter than I am.

01:33:37.000 Let me just read.

01:33:38.000 All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside, period.

01:33:44.000 No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.

01:33:49.000 Semicolon.

01:33:50.000 Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

01:33:59.000 Now, hold on.

01:34:00.000 Read the first sentence for me, Ian.

01:34:02.000 All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

01:34:09.000 So what they've stated is that citizen is a word that means person who has been born or naturalized in the United States.

01:34:17.000 And was subject to the jurisdiction at the time.

01:34:19.000 Agreed.

01:34:19.000 That would imply that persons are persons before being born.

01:34:23.000 All persons born.

01:34:24.000 So able to be born, you must have been a person to be born.

01:34:27.000 You become a person once you're born.

01:34:28.000 Because here's the argument.

01:34:31.000 You could theoretically argue that they're saying a person is a human being.

01:34:35.000 And if you are a human being who was born or naturalized and subject to jurisdiction thereof, you also qualify as a citizen.

01:34:41.000 Well, then, if that's the argument you could take, maybe they will.

01:34:45.000 I would also argue it's saying a person who is born implies you were a person before you were born, but that's neither here nor there.

01:34:50.000 Take it if you want.

01:34:51.000 It says, nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property.

01:34:56.000 The argument then becomes exactly what I just said.

01:34:59.000 When do you become a person?

01:35:02.000 It doesn't say in the 14th Amendment, you become a person upon birth.

01:35:06.000 If that birth is in the United States, you are a citizen.

01:35:09.000 It says persons born.

01:35:11.000 It also says you can't deprive a person of life, liberty, or property.

01:35:14.000 The question the Supreme Court needs to answer is when does someone become a person?

01:35:19.000 Yeah.

01:35:21.000 I think they're going to say that they become a person because of this.

01:35:23.000 This is why the ACLU said future persons, because they were trying to avoid this.

01:35:28.000 I think they can't, though, and I think they know it.

01:35:31.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:35:32.000 Because they said future person in their class, not unborn persons, because they knew what that would mean.

01:35:39.000 The problem is, so long as future persons have legal standing as a class to be represented, to seek injunctive relief, anyone should be able to sue on behalf of a class, the unborn, seeking injunctive relief against their own termination.

01:35:53.000 Now, the problem here is, if they say, no, the baby can be terminated, the argument is, why can future persons be granted injunctive relief on something that has not yet happened in one instance, but not the other?

01:36:06.000 I think the ACLU has walked themselves into a pit trap.

01:36:11.000 You'd love to see it.

01:36:13.000 You'd love to see it.

01:36:14.000 Screw the ACLU.

01:36:15.000 So the, I don't know if you guys know, but the U.S. attorney, Bill Essay, he's the...

01:36:21.000 Yeah, the official attorney for the Central District of California.

01:36:26.000 He just tweeted, the federal agents are executing a search warrant at this marijuana farm.

01:36:29.000 Agents have already arrested multiple individuals for impeding this operation and will continue to make arrests.

01:36:34.000 Don't interfere.

01:36:34.000 You'll be arrested and charged with federal offenses.

01:36:37.000 So, like, this isn't just about illegals.

01:36:40.000 This is about a search warrant on the marijuana farm because they believe that it's tied to cartels.

01:36:47.000 That's where that shooting happened?

01:36:48.000 We got to do one more segment.

01:36:50.000 We got to do one more segment, ladies and gentlemen.

01:36:51.000 Oh, look, yeah.

01:36:52.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we went and saw Superman.

01:36:54.000 Check it out from the Hollywood Reporter.

01:36:56.000 Superman Review.

01:36:56.000 James Gunn gives DC Studios Crown Jewel a gleaming polish with help from David Kornsweet and Rachel Brosnahan.

01:37:04.000 So the big story was that it was woke.

01:37:06.000 The director had made comments about immigration.

01:37:09.000 Sean Gunn, his brother, had made comments about people who spread hate.

01:37:13.000 And the immediate assumption for many people was that it was going to be woke.

01:37:16.000 Another story is Superman used to say, truth, justice, and the American way.

01:37:20.000 And now he says, truth, justice, and the human way.

01:37:23.000 When we went and saw the movie, and I will tell you this, it is not woke.

01:37:26.000 It's not political.

01:37:27.000 There's only one political comment in it.

01:37:30.000 And it was a joke mocking, it wasn't really mocking anybody.

01:37:34.000 It was just an overt general statement that didn't direct anything towards anybody.

01:37:38.000 I will get into spoilers in a little bit, but I'll give you guys a heads up so we can talk a little bit about it right now and address the political stuff.

01:37:43.000 It was not about immigration, it was not political in any way.

01:37:50.000 From the trailers, you can see, so this is not a spoiler.

01:37:54.000 You know, Superman's basically like he stops a war between two nations.

01:37:58.000 That's technically as political as it gets.

01:38:01.000 The motivations of the villain have nothing to do with wokeness, Marxism, critical theory.

01:38:05.000 It is classic Lex Luther versus Superman.

01:38:09.000 I thought the movie was pretty good.

01:38:10.000 However, I will say this, and this is kind of a spoiler, but it's kind of not.

01:38:15.000 Guys, the interdimensional monkeys is true.

01:38:19.000 I knew that.

01:38:20.000 I knew it.

01:38:21.000 So a while ago, there was a leak that in the movie, there were interdimensional monkeys that were spamming Twitter, insulting Superman to make him angry. 0.98

01:38:32.000 And I thought someone made that up to mock James Gunn Superman by throwing some stupid idea out there. 0.76

01:38:39.000 Indeed, it is in the movie. 0.90

01:38:41.000 And the beginning of the movie was okay.

01:38:44.000 And I was like, eh, I don't know how I feel about this.

01:38:46.000 C minus, maybe.

01:38:47.000 Now it's a D plus.

01:38:48.000 And then the moment I saw the monkeys, F, I was almost ready to walk out of the theater.

01:38:55.000 But I rolled my eyes and I went, oh my God.

01:38:59.000 Literally, Lex Luther has an army of interdimensional monkeys that are insulting Superman on Twitter.

01:39:05.000 Interdimensional how?

01:39:08.000 We'll get into that a little bit because I don't want to get spoilers, but they are interdimensional monkeys.

01:39:11.000 They are normal earth monkeys in an interdimensional plane. 0.98

01:39:14.000 There you go.

01:39:15.000 Cool.

01:39:16.000 So what I will say is after this, I was flatlining.

01:39:20.000 Like, if there's like a meter showing, like, how much do I like the movie?

01:39:23.000 In the beginning, it was the intro showing off Lex Luther's abilities spiked way up to the top.

01:39:30.000 I was like, yes.

01:39:32.000 Because what I love in superhero movies is humans who are better than superheroes.

01:39:35.000 That's why I like Batman.

01:39:35.000 That's why I like Iron Man.

01:39:36.000 That's why I like Doctor Strange.

01:39:38.000 Human, regular humans who acquire their ability through hard work.

01:39:40.000 Like Doctor Strange studied, Iron Man invented things, Mr. Terrific invented things.

01:39:45.000 I love that.

01:39:46.000 So beginning was like really good.

01:39:47.000 And then it slowed down.

01:39:48.000 I was getting bored.

01:39:49.000 And I was like, it's okay.

01:39:50.000 I guess it's whatever.

01:39:51.000 I'm not really.

01:39:52.000 And then the monkeys thing happened.

01:39:53.000 And I was like, I will walk out.

01:39:54.000 I swear to God.

01:39:55.000 Stuck around a little bit.

01:39:56.000 And it improved so dramatically, in my opinion, that I gave the film an eight out of 10.

01:40:01.000 And I probably would have given it a 10 out of 10 if they didn't do the monkeys thing and the beginning was a little bit stronger.

01:40:07.000 You know, movies, music, they tend to take the shape of if the beginning and the end are awesome, it's really the middle is not too important.

01:40:15.000 It's how you feel when it starts and how you feel when it's over.

01:40:18.000 It's the most important.

01:40:18.000 Well, generally, if it starts strong and ends strong, you have a relative success.

01:40:23.000 Let's get into some spoilers.

01:40:24.000 Now, I will stress the whole movie's already been spoiled because a few days ago before the movie came out, a review was leaked that basically laid out the entirety of the plot.

01:40:33.000 Some people have tried making claims there's an Israel-Palestine reference in it.

01:40:36.000 There is not.

01:40:38.000 The two nations that Superman stops from going to war is a wealthier Eastern European nation and a poorer tribal South Asian nation like India or Pakistan. 0.94

01:40:50.000 I think they intentionally avoided getting, like, they were like, let's not make it easier.

01:40:54.000 I think they intentionally avoided making it look like Ukraine and Russia or Israel-Palestine.

01:40:59.000 So it's random countries.

01:41:02.000 The map where it shows the countries are is a nondescript close-up, so you don't really know on the planet where it is.

01:41:07.000 And they're made up countries.

01:41:09.000 The conflict is that Superman feels he has the authority to engage in global affairs.

01:41:15.000 And the U.S. government is like, this is causing us problems, but we don't want to intervene because Superman's largely good.

01:41:24.000 And then basically, the principal motivations of Lex Luther is, actually I would argue this.

01:41:29.000 It actually kind of digs at communists and wokeness.

01:41:32.000 If you really want to find a political message, Lex Luther's motivation is that he is jealous.

01:41:37.000 This is literally the plot.

01:41:39.000 Superman has done nothing to earn his powers.

01:41:41.000 He is naturally gifted, and that's an affront to what it means to be someone who works so hard.

01:41:46.000 And so these leftists who are upset at people who are naturally beautiful or white privilege, you never earned that.

01:41:53.000 You didn't make it.

01:41:54.000 It was done for you is basically the motivations of the villain.

01:41:57.000 I still wouldn't call it woke, like political in any way.

01:42:01.000 But if you really wanted to squeeze it in there.

01:42:03.000 It sounds like they attempted to depoliticize it so extremely that they took truth, justice, and the American way out of it and they replaced it with the human way.

01:42:11.000 Like they deeply, I'm fairly certain never in the movie was it ever brought up.

01:42:15.000 Oh, really?

01:42:15.000 Okay.

01:42:16.000 Yeah.

01:42:16.000 That was what Dean Kane tweeted about earlier.

01:42:18.000 That's what he was complaining about.

01:42:19.000 I don't remember anywhere in the movie that being said.

01:42:21.000 He was American propaganda.

01:42:23.000 Superman was American propaganda beginning in the 30s and 40s.

01:42:26.000 He'd fight Red Skull, beat up Nazis, you know, all about America. 0.52

01:42:29.000 It was a big, big American movie.

01:42:31.000 Yeah, if anything, you can argue there's a, I think they did a pretty good job avoiding the pitfalls.

01:42:37.000 So, okay, we'll get a little heavier into the spoilers just for you guys, so you know.

01:42:42.000 A war is about to break out.

01:42:43.000 Superman stops the war from happening, causing an international incident.

01:42:47.000 The Eastern European nation is aligned with the U.S. U.S. corporations sell weapons to them.

01:42:51.000 They're pissed.

01:42:52.000 And the poorer nation is actually kind of a backwards bad country. 1.00

01:42:57.000 And there's anger at Superman because he didn't, like, why you don't have the authority to go around and just do whatever you want.

01:43:03.000 Lois Lane criticizes, and this is actually in the trailer.

01:43:05.000 She's like, did you consider what was going to happen if you did this?

01:43:09.000 And Superman is being criticized because there's negative repercussions after the fact that there's a reason why the U.S. doesn't just intervene wherever they want, whatever they want, despite the fact they tend to.

01:43:19.000 And Superman's unilateral actions can result in collateral damage after the fact and other conflicts.

01:43:24.000 Did the military industrial complex complain about all their profit losses towards Superman and build a kryptonite weapon?

01:43:30.000 Okay, you ready for more spoilers?

01:43:31.000 Okay, I guess so.

01:43:32.000 Lex Luther was selling weapons to the Eastern European nation.

01:43:36.000 And when Superman stopped the conflict, that put at risk Lex Luther's $80 billion contract.

01:43:41.000 I like this plot.

01:43:42.000 This plot line is good.

01:43:43.000 There's more to the plot than that.

01:43:45.000 But early on when they're like, why is Lex Luther doing what he's doing?

01:43:49.000 Basically, Lex has an army of monkeys because he's antagonizing Superman.

01:43:53.000 So it's Lex Luther.

01:43:53.000 The army of monkeys thing, if it had been AI, if it had been an army of AI robots or just like a supercomputer Doing it, would it have not been cheap?

01:44:01.000 Was it just that they were monkeys?

01:44:03.000 The reason why James Gunn had interdimensional monkeys typing on Twitter was because he was intentionally insulting the people who got him canceled, which is Mike Cernovich.

01:44:12.000 He's calling Mike a monkey.

01:44:13.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:44:14.000 In a movie.

01:44:15.000 I know.

01:44:15.000 If I was Mike, I'd be laughing.

01:44:16.000 Mike Cernovich.

01:44:19.000 So basically, Lex Luthor is talking to Superman, and then he's like, he's like, and here's my network of monkeys.

01:44:26.000 And then you see these computers hanging from racks with monkeys.

01:44:29.000 And it actually shows the monkeys typing.

01:44:30.000 There's this.

01:44:31.000 And they're typing things like, who could support Superman at this point?

01:44:34.000 He's bad. 0.97

01:44:35.000 The only reason that was in the film, because it's unrelated to literally anything in the plot, was that James Gunn wanted to say the people who are posting nonsense hate on Twitter are monkeys. 0.57

01:44:45.000 And there's that old adage of if you put a million monkeys in a room for a million hours, they would write Shakespeare.

01:44:51.000 Sure, but he had hardwired the brains of the monkeys to be able to type smart things and insults.

01:44:55.000 Oh, he smartened the monkeys?

01:44:56.000 They were wearing like helmets or something.

01:44:57.000 Oh, Lex Luthor.

01:44:58.000 And I was going to walk out.

01:45:00.000 I was like, James, no.

01:45:02.000 No.

01:45:02.000 I like James Gunn's movies, okay?

01:45:04.000 Guardians is awesome.

01:45:05.000 Suicide Squad was good.

01:45:06.000 And I had, look, I had read all the stuff saying he was going to be woken about immigration.

01:45:10.000 And I was like, I don't know if I believe it. 1.00

01:45:12.000 Then Sean Gunn said some stupid comments that were sounding political. 0.96

01:45:18.000 James Gunn, what Brett was saying, and I could be wrong after ask Brett later, but I'm pretty sure he was saying, the person who interviewed James Gunn took his comments out of context to try and make it political. 0.98

01:45:30.000 And I think there's a lot of people trying to make the movie political because, I don't know, online zeitgeist hate on the movie.

01:45:39.000 I thought it was great.

01:45:40.000 I guess Superman was political when they built him in the 30s, but it doesn't mean he always has to be political.

01:45:46.000 Mr. Terrific saved the movie.

01:45:48.000 Okay.

01:45:49.000 I was so excited.

01:45:50.000 I love the character, Mr. Terrific.

01:45:52.000 For those that are not familiar, he's a child prodigy who becomes a billionaire.

01:45:56.000 He becomes oppressed after losing his family in an accident and then is convinced by some other superheroes to use his wealth and technology and resources to be a superhero himself.

01:46:05.000 And he's got these things called T-Spheres.

01:46:07.000 So he basically walks around and he has drones that he uses to project energy, force fields.

01:46:12.000 He can lift himself in the air.

01:46:13.000 He flies with them.

01:46:14.000 Does it help him move faster?

01:46:15.000 Like manual dexterity and stuff?

01:46:17.000 No.

01:46:17.000 That'd be cool.

01:46:18.000 They hack stuff and he can see what they see in the cameras.

01:46:21.000 So technically in the comics, the spheres can do whatever plot device they do.

01:46:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:46:26.000 I've been playing a lot of Rim World and there's this Technomancer class where he's got this ball that follows him around.

01:46:31.000 I think that the acting may have been a little dry, but the character is fantastic.

01:46:34.000 And after the Monkeys thing happened and I was so pissed off, they gave us a Mr. Terrific fight scene that was awesome.

01:46:40.000 Did he fight the Monkeys?

01:46:41.000 He did not.

01:46:42.000 But it was so cool to see Mr. Terrific using his technology, taking on a bunch of bad guys.

01:46:48.000 And then I was like, okay, I'm reinvested in this movie now.

01:46:51.000 And then it gradually improved from there.

01:46:52.000 Metamorpho was really cool.

01:46:54.000 I thought the Metamorpho fight scene was really great.

01:46:58.000 And the actor who played him nailed this character.

01:47:02.000 I love it.

01:47:03.000 Spoilers, okay?

01:47:04.000 We're in spoilers.

01:47:05.000 There's bad guys, not a heavy spoiler, but Metamorpho is surrounded by bad guys and they're like, freeze.

01:47:10.000 And then his body turns to green bubbles.

01:47:13.000 And they go, what are you going to splash us?

01:47:15.000 And he's like, yes, with sulfuric acid.

01:47:17.000 And then sprays them all.

01:47:18.000 And they're like, ah!

01:47:19.000 Or it was like hydrochloric acid or something.

01:47:22.000 great how they did metamorpho.

01:47:24.000 I thought it was The character was pretty shy.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, I like that.

01:47:31.000 That's kind of Killian Murphy's Scarecrow.

01:47:34.000 I love that.

01:47:34.000 He's like one of my favorite actors.

01:47:35.000 Timid, timid.

01:47:36.000 Yeah.

01:47:37.000 Well, maybe somebody, fan fiction, someone should AI create a scene where Superman goes into the monkey room and just heat rays all of them, blast them.

01:47:45.000 They're like, ah!

01:47:46.000 There's one point someone brought up that I will address too, a major negative for the film that I knew the moment they did it, they couldn't correct it and they damaged Dolore miserably and I'm pissed about.

01:47:56.000 But so we, as Slain Hope says, they made Superman's real parents into space Nazis. 0.62

01:48:02.000 Wow.

01:48:03.000 So what happens is, this is politically relevant.

01:48:07.000 So I know it's a big spoiler, but it's politically relevant.

01:48:10.000 In the beginning, they don't give you an origin story for Superman.

01:48:14.000 They give you a scene where he's recovering and there's a robot being trained via programming.

01:48:22.000 So they're explaining to the robot, which is basically you, the audience.

01:48:25.000 So they're like, Superman likes to hear the message from his parents.

01:48:28.000 It soothes him.

01:48:30.000 And it's his parents.

01:48:31.000 I think it was Bradley Cooper, by the way, which is awesome.

01:48:32.000 And Jalel?

01:48:33.000 Jor El.

01:48:34.000 Jor El Jal.

01:48:34.000 I mean, the problem is they ruin the character.

01:48:36.000 But anyway, the message is, we love you so much more than anything.

01:48:41.000 We found a planet, Earth.

01:48:42.000 We're sending you there.

01:48:44.000 You can do the most good.

01:48:45.000 Be a strong man and bring the truth of Krypton.

01:48:48.000 And then the message is damaged.

01:48:49.000 And he's like, I don't know what the rest of the message is, but I will try to live up to that message to be good and to bring the truth of Krypton.

01:48:56.000 So he becomes a superhero.

01:48:57.000 Lex Luther breaks in and his cybernetic henchman, she's got nanobots, breaks into the mainframe and it was able to download the message.

01:49:08.000 And by downloading it, recovers the corrupted data in which they go on to say, take as many wives as you can, have as many babies as possible. 1.00

01:49:16.000 The humans are weak and stupid and you can control them and enslave them and blah, blah, blah. 0.96

01:49:22.000 And then, you know, and then the mom is like, take as many wives as you can and have many babies so that they will grow up with your DNA and bring the strength of Krypton, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:49:32.000 And I was like, okay, that's ultra cringe.

01:49:37.000 It wasn't overtly political, but it is not true to the characters.

01:49:41.000 And it is insulting to what they could have done with Jorrell.

01:49:45.000 So I was not a fan of that.

01:49:47.000 Joerelle, he was like a capitalist.

01:49:49.000 He was like a rich guy on Krypton.

01:49:51.000 He had wealth because he could obviously send his son on a spaceship.

01:49:53.000 Yeah, they all kind of did.

01:49:55.000 It was a highly advanced civilization.

01:49:57.000 And he was a scientist.

01:49:57.000 None of them had superpowers on.

01:49:59.000 It was only Earth's yellow sun that gives those humans power, those people power. 0.87

01:50:02.000 So they were under a red sun.

01:50:04.000 He was a scientist.

01:50:05.000 Jorrell is a scientist.

01:50:07.000 And so then he knew the planet.

01:50:08.000 He predicted the planet was going to be destroyed, but they didn't listen.

01:50:10.000 So he sent his son off.

01:50:11.000 And then they've evolved that story quite dramatically.

01:50:14.000 They introduced Supergirl only briefly at the end.

01:50:18.000 And it's that actress. 1.00

01:50:18.000 I can't remember her name, but people will probably be excited to see her as Supergirl. 1.00

01:50:23.000 I'll just say this.

01:50:24.000 That was really, really bad.

01:50:26.000 It wasn't political.

01:50:28.000 They're not space Nazis.

01:50:29.000 They're just the motivation of Superman's parents is to repopulate Kryptonians. 0.81

01:50:37.000 And so they're like, take a hairman, as many wives as you can, have many children. 0.56

01:50:40.000 You got to understand that means he could have like 700,000 women.

01:50:43.000 It is.

01:50:44.000 I got to say that.

01:50:45.000 It's probably 100 million women. 1.00

01:50:47.000 As much as that is cringe, the scene where Guy Gardner walks up to Superman and he's like, how many wives do you have, man?

01:50:55.000 It's like Nathan Filling was amazing and it was really funny.

01:50:58.000 He was like, hey, is that true?

01:51:00.000 How many wives do you got? 1.00

01:51:01.000 And Superman's like, I don't have a bunch of wives because Lex Luther was trying to destroy his reputation. 1.00

01:51:06.000 Oh, but no one said deep fake.

01:51:07.000 No one's like, no, it's a deep fake.

01:51:09.000 My parents never would have said that.

01:51:10.000 There were a few poorly written lines, which is Mr. Triffitt goes, I know these guys.

01:51:16.000 He's like, I know these digital forensic guys.

01:51:18.000 It's a real message.

01:51:19.000 And I'm like, no, no, no, no.

01:51:20.000 Come on.

01:51:20.000 You could have written that better.

01:51:22.000 You could have had them say maybe it was fake and they should have said it was fake.

01:51:25.000 And then they could have recovered the character arc of Superman's parents.

01:51:29.000 There's another scene where Trump is covered.

01:51:32.000 Trump. 0.96

01:51:33.000 Look at my brain.

01:51:34.000 Superman, well, you know, it's a Fraudian slit, but it's probably envisioned the man.

01:51:38.000 Superman is encased in nanites and he's about to crash into the earth.

01:51:43.000 And Lex Luthor goes, unsheathe.

01:51:46.000 He's the only one armored.

01:51:47.000 And I'm like, are you the only one being protected or something like that?

01:51:50.000 And I'm like, yo, that line was a little heavy.

01:51:53.000 What is he talking about?

01:51:54.000 Unsheathe.

01:51:55.000 What does he mean?

01:51:55.000 The nanite lady covers him in nanites.

01:51:57.000 So then Superman flies towards the earth to crash.

01:52:00.000 And then Lex Luther yells, unsheath. 0.92

01:52:04.000 He's the only one being protected.

01:52:05.000 Like, he needed to tell the audience what it meant and why this mattered.

01:52:09.000 A little overt.

01:52:11.000 The point was that because he was covered, as he crashes into Earth, he was being shielded by her attack on him.

01:52:16.000 He had to tell the world.

01:52:17.000 He had to tell him that he was.

01:52:18.000 He had to explain to the woman, but really to the audience.

01:52:20.000 He didn't need to do that.

01:52:21.000 It could have been written much, much better.

01:52:22.000 But anyway, we got to go to your chats and all that.

01:52:25.000 But I will just say, I think James Gunn might actually save the DC cinematic universe.

01:52:33.000 It was great.

01:52:34.000 It was really well done. 0.99

01:52:35.000 And I'm mostly excited that they did not pander any stupid political ways. 0.99

01:52:40.000 Superman is a white guy who the arguments were like higher level politics on when you can invade and when you can't invade. 1.00

01:52:48.000 Nothing about being a white man.

01:52:50.000 Nothing about money.

01:52:52.000 Nothing about being a billionaire. 1.00

01:52:53.000 None of that weird, stupid garbage the left is trying to inject in it. 1.00

01:52:55.000 Literally not a thing about immigration. 1.00

01:52:57.000 Never, the closest thing they got to immigration was Lex Luther being like, you're just an alien.

01:53:02.000 And then Superman says, no, I'm just a person.

01:53:05.000 I wake up the same as you.

01:53:06.000 That's what you don't understand.

01:53:07.000 And I'm like, that's fine.

01:53:09.000 He didn't say you're an immigrant to my country and my planet and you're ruining us. 0.72

01:53:13.000 Immigration was never an issue.

01:53:15.000 So do you think that came about because of the backlash and the, well, not even just backlash, but the financial just catastrophe that Snow White was for Disney?

01:53:25.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:26.000 I mean, okay, you know, because that was fairly recent.

01:53:29.000 So I'm not sure how long this movie took to produce and make and come out.

01:53:34.000 Okay, we got to grab some remote, so I'm trying to go quick.

01:53:37.000 We had to put that in there.

01:53:38.000 But anyway, smash the like button, share the show.

01:53:40.000 Head over to rumble.com slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored portion of the show coming up at 10.

01:53:45.000 Let me try and grab as much as I can because we got a good one here.

01:53:48.000 Seven Legion Studio says, hold on, the message from Jorrell makes the immigration message really based.

01:53:53.000 The immigrant was sent to overthrow the local government and outbreak the local population. 1.00

01:53:57.000 Yes.

01:53:58.000 I was thinking exactly that.

01:54:01.000 This way I didn't like how they basically muddied Jorrell.

01:54:05.000 But I was thinking this when we were leaving, Lex Luther's motivation is you never, he's like Galileo and Einstein and these individuals.

01:54:16.000 And they actually, he was like, I think he says something like as dim as they actually were, they actually did something.

01:54:22.000 They contributed something and they earned it to have their names remembered.

01:54:26.000 You did nothing just by being an alien and being here. 0.99

01:54:29.000 Everyone says your name. 0.73

01:54:31.000 And I'm like, that is communist right there.

01:54:34.000 The ethos of these Marxists is you were born to wealth and privilege.

01:54:37.000 You don't deserve it.

01:54:38.000 You shouldn't have it.

01:54:39.000 And I will take it from you.

01:54:40.000 But not really in that Lex Luther, like, is a billionaire who built up.

01:54:46.000 So it's not, it doesn't really play that way. 0.97

01:54:48.000 But then I'm like, Jorrell telling his child, the people of the country are of the planet are dumb and to outbreed them, to rule over them and take as many wives as you can. 0.92

01:54:58.000 I'm like, if that's the message of immigration James Gunn was sending to people, he pikes. 1.00

01:55:03.000 Yeah, that's a little.

01:55:04.000 Immigrants are coming to take over your country by outbreeding you. 1.00

01:55:07.000 Didn't realize he was so right-wing.

01:55:09.000 I got to be honest, though, Nathan Fillion was amazing.

01:55:12.000 And the interaction about Superman having harems was really funny.

01:55:17.000 Having harems. 0.58

01:55:19.000 Lois Lane's like, I never believed it.

01:55:22.000 It was good.

01:55:23.000 Anyway, here we go.

01:55:24.000 AEI-owned you says, Tim, one theory I have not seen.

01:55:28.000 Bongino may be serious death threat.

01:55:31.000 Pliable.

01:55:32.000 Thinking ahead, lull these Fs into a false sense of security. 0.99

01:55:35.000 Don't get me wrong. 0.84

01:55:36.000 I'm pissed.

01:55:37.000 I don't think so.

01:55:38.000 The false sense of security stuff, I don't.

01:55:40.000 When Prince Andrew had his charge, the investigation dropped, sounds like someone with weight told them what to do.

01:55:47.000 And apparently it was a leaked memo.

01:55:49.000 Another leaked memo.

01:55:50.000 The Prince Andrew thing.

01:55:51.000 Yeah.

01:55:51.000 Well, the more information comes out, the happier I am.

01:55:57.000 Happier?

01:55:58.000 The more information that comes out because then they can actually do something.

01:56:01.000 Like the more information that comes out about like Epstein.

01:56:04.000 Yeah, about Epstein.

01:56:05.000 The more we learn about how letting them go...

01:56:08.000 No, no, no, no.

01:56:10.000 No, not at all.

01:56:12.000 St. Miles says, FYI, the riot at Kent, the riders were also using slingshots to throw those rocks at the National Guard.

01:56:20.000 Thinking about that, I was thinking about at one point because they were like throwing rocks as a rough, but it's not horror.

01:56:25.000 But then like, what about slings? 1.00

01:56:27.000 You know, you can kill someone with a sling press.

01:56:28.000 Well, they were throwing rocks through the windshield of ice suburbans at one point.

01:56:34.000 I mean, if that rock would have gone through the windshield and actually hit one of the ice agents in the head, I mean, that's the definition of deadly force. 0.94

01:56:40.000 I mean, at that speed, throwing a huge boulder through the window.

01:56:44.000 Melindi says, are you kidding me?

01:56:45.000 90s, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City.

01:56:47.000 Fair point, but I would say you also had the LA riots.

01:56:52.000 So there was tumult.

01:56:53.000 There was tumult.

01:56:54.000 But I think it was the control of information as to why we feel this way in that every time you turned On the TV, the narrative was controlled, and you felt stable.

01:57:05.000 It just felt more stable.

01:57:07.000 I will say that even with those things, today, every day, it's something new.

01:57:12.000 It's like there's no escape from it.

01:57:14.000 That's why Rudyard was saying, get off the internet and go hide.

01:57:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:17.000 Oh, what you were saying is like, I can't, I don't want to not pay attention.

01:57:20.000 You have to pay attention.

01:57:21.000 I think what it is, you need to feed back into the system.

01:57:23.000 It is good to get away from the input and like just blockade the negativity so that you can grow and become healthy and then put into the data.

01:57:31.000 Like you want to give, and I think video is the best way to do that.

01:57:34.000 Text just is a wall of scratching, but video, you hear the tone, you see the eyeballs.

01:57:39.000 So feedback.

01:57:41.000 There was a super chat on YouTube that said they liked Ian and it just disappeared literally as I was about to read it.

01:57:46.000 It must have been a lie.

01:57:47.000 They said every so often Ian says something I wholeheartedly agree with and then it just vanished. 0.99

01:57:51.000 YouTube was like, shit, too much too soon. 0.99

01:57:53.000 Maybe. 1.00

01:57:54.000 Yeah, delete that.

01:57:55.000 But I appreciate it.

01:57:56.000 All right.

01:57:57.000 Quantum Strange Quirk says, please get Doug Ten Naples on the show.

01:58:02.000 He's an animator, video game designer, and Christian conservative.

01:58:05.000 YouTube deleted his channels a few years ago after Media Matters attacked him, and they recently restored them and apologized.

01:58:10.000 Whoa, amazing.

01:58:12.000 What is his name?

01:58:12.000 Doug what?

01:58:13.000 Tanipol? 0.56

01:58:14.000 Ten Naple.

01:58:15.000 So it's T-E-N and then capital N-A-P-E-L. 0.97

01:58:18.000 Big G says, watching Superman, and I feel like I am watching the cartoon from when I was a kid in the 90s.

01:58:23.000 It's awesome watching it now with my son.

01:58:25.000 Guys, I'm telling you, it's the like, to be fair, the script is a little cluttered, you know?

01:58:33.000 I don't know that I, I think someone's telling me like Nerd Roddick said, one thing happens, then one thing happens, so then one thing happens.

01:58:37.000 And I'm like, well, I wouldn't say it like that.

01:58:40.000 Like you can follow along why the things are happening.

01:58:43.000 I did not like the intro at all.

01:58:47.000 Well, I should say this.

01:58:49.000 The very, very beginning, I was, so I'm in the theater and I'm like, I just finished dinner.

01:58:55.000 I better run to the bathroom right now.

01:58:56.000 It's going to start any minute.

01:58:57.000 And so I run to the bathroom and I'm thinking, I got to be there for the opening scene.

01:59:01.000 The opening scene is going to be everything.

01:59:03.000 And I was very disappointed.

01:59:04.000 The opening scene was just landscape with text.

01:59:07.000 And I went, oh, come on.

01:59:09.000 The opening scene should have been of Superman.

01:59:12.000 It wasn't.

01:59:13.000 Oh, yeah, like him.

01:59:14.000 It was text backstory for the recent plot.

01:59:17.000 So it was like Superman stopped a war.

01:59:21.000 This has led to some tumult.

01:59:23.000 And then Superman, it's from the trailer.

01:59:25.000 He slams into the ground.

01:59:26.000 I wonder if they talked about that and they're like, well, we should do, because they would have had to hire a young actor to play young Superman if they wanted to show him doing that stuff growing up. 1.00

01:59:34.000 Maybe that's a big asshole. 0.96

01:59:35.000 I think they shouldn't do that because everyone tries to do some kind of origin. 1.00

01:59:39.000 We don't need that.

01:59:39.000 What I will say is Lex Luther was, I wish Lex Luther had a little bit more testosterone.

01:59:45.000 Nicholas Holt is a great actor.

01:59:47.000 He's not as weasel as Jesse Eisenberg's Luther, but he is still kind of a he had more anger and more force within him, but he still isn't enough tea.

01:59:57.000 Like, I like the Superman cartoon Lex Luthor, where he's tall, fit, and has a deep voice, like he's an imposing figure.

02:00:05.000 Yeah, he's the president.

02:00:06.000 He's got to be.

02:00:07.000 He becomes.

02:00:09.000 But I also really love that Justice League line when he was running for president and the question confronts him and he's like, what's your plan, Luthor?

02:00:17.000 And he's like, why do you want to be president?

02:00:19.000 And he goes, do you have any idea how much power I would have to give up to be the president?

02:00:24.000 And it was a great.

02:00:25.000 He's like, I don't want to be the president.

02:00:26.000 He was doing something else.

02:00:27.000 Dan Bongino, man.

02:00:28.000 How much he gave up to be that.

02:00:30.000 Indeed.

02:00:30.000 Love you, Dan.

02:00:32.000 But Lex Luther, that's not what I'm saying, by the way.

02:00:36.000 I love you.

02:00:37.000 So I guess we're in spoiler territory.

02:00:41.000 I don't know.

02:00:41.000 Some people might just.

02:00:42.000 Superman spoiler?

02:00:43.000 Lex Luther is able to.

02:00:46.000 Superman gets defeated.

02:00:47.000 That's that scene in the trailer because Lex Luther is coordinating the attacks against him.

02:00:52.000 And I thought it was amazing.

02:00:54.000 I love the writing.

02:00:55.000 Lex doesn't have the strength to beat Superman, but utilizing tools that he has to fight Superman with strength, but his mind behind it to control the fight, he beats Superman because he's smarter.

02:01:06.000 So it's like, that was a great contrast to what Superman was versus Lex Luther and why Lex Luther is such a great villain.

02:01:12.000 He's an industrialist, super intelligent man, and Superman is this physically strong demigod. 0.98

02:01:18.000 And Lex Luther is able to feed him by his intelligence.

02:01:21.000 And like the legal system manipulating him.

02:01:25.000 The power of capitalism.

02:01:27.000 But just the psychology.

02:01:29.000 Lex is so smart.

02:01:31.000 He stands right up in front of Superman's face when Superman's super angry.

02:01:34.000 And he has no fear because he knows what motivates Superman and Superman's limitations.

02:01:40.000 He knows Superman won't hurt him and can't.

02:01:42.000 So Lex can do whatever he wants.

02:01:44.000 Does he want to kill Superman?

02:01:46.000 In the comic books, that is the principal goal of Lex Luthor.

02:01:50.000 So, you know.

02:01:51.000 But in the movie, I mean, it's not even that important.

02:01:54.000 I guess it's not really a spoiler.

02:01:55.000 Like, the movie is literally, that's why I'm saying it's not political.

02:01:58.000 The movie is literally, Lex Luther's like, I must kill Superman.

02:02:01.000 He doesn't say it like that.

02:02:03.000 It's well written, his motivations and his anger.

02:02:06.000 And there's a scene where Superman says, he literally says, he's like, everything about you, Lex, it's envy.

02:02:14.000 And then Lex yells, he's like, do you think I'm dim?

02:02:17.000 I know I'm driven by envy.

02:02:19.000 That's exactly what this is about.

02:02:20.000 I thought that was amazing.

02:02:22.000 He's self-aware, heavily, highly emotional, and will tell you to your face.

02:02:28.000 Like Lex is introspective and angry.

02:02:29.000 I thought it was fantastic. 0.91

02:02:31.000 You know, there's a type of evil, the ignorant evil where they think they're doing good.

02:02:34.000 Then there's the malicious evil where they know they're doing evil.

02:02:36.000 Let's read one more Super Jet from Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, I'm a bad person.

02:02:39.000 I lulled when Lex's interview of the street vendor ended sooner than expected.

02:02:44.000 So unexpected.

02:02:45.000 I like the movie, but the message from his parents really hurts the movie a lot.

02:02:49.000 Yeah.

02:02:50.000 But let's just say there's a scene where a street vendor is being, let's just say, interviewed by Lex Luthor while Superman is incapacitated.

02:03:04.000 And it ends rather abruptly because Lex Luthor is a villain and you should not be laughing, but Raymond was laughing.

02:03:12.000 Anybody who's seen the movie, they're going, oh, geez.

02:03:14.000 It's still kind of funny.

02:03:15.000 All right, my friends, we're going to go to that uncensored portion of the show.

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02:03:26.000 Nick, do you want to shout anything out?

02:03:27.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:03:29.000 Just, Everybody, just don't forget about the people down there in Texas.

02:03:33.000 This happens every single time there's a natural disaster.

02:03:35.000 These people end up being abandoned, and once they're abandoned, the government has no incentive to actually get these people back up on their feet or at least help to do so.

02:03:44.000 So, you know, if you're a praying person, say a prayer for them tonight.

02:03:47.000 And, you know, everybody down there definitely appreciates their support.

02:03:51.000 I'm not going to ride your jock too much, bro, but you went out of Texas like day one.

02:03:55.000 And I mean, you were like a hero with the getting the Starlink for the people in rescue.

02:04:03.000 Your work, I mean, if you haven't followed Nick's sorter yet, watching you bloom over the last couple of years has been really thanks.

02:04:09.000 I appreciate it, man.

02:04:10.000 Thanks a lot.

02:04:11.000 It really does.

02:04:11.000 It's nonstop, bro.

02:04:12.000 It's really, really great.

02:04:13.000 Anyway, thanks a lot, Nick, for coming and check Nick out on Twitter for sure.

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02:04:36.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:05:59.000 Oh, what's that?

02:06:00.000 Yeah, Zach Asmund Gold is, you say he's going crazy? 1.00

02:06:02.000 Yeah, I just saw the thumbnail of one of his most recent videos, and it was like, fuck it, I give up. 1.00

02:06:07.000 I'm fucking done with this bullshit. 1.00

02:06:08.000 Give him everything. 1.00

02:06:09.000 I can't take it anymore.

02:06:10.000 Looked like he was doing everything.

02:06:12.000 I didn't watch the video.

02:06:13.000 It looked like he was insinuating bring as much government force as you want.

02:06:17.000 I'm okay with it.

02:06:18.000 He's basically talking about, if I remember correctly, he was talking, I wasn't watching all of his shows today, or his clips today.

02:06:24.000 I don't usually watch him live because it's on Twitch.

02:06:26.000 I don't usually watch Twitch.

02:06:27.000 But he was talking today about the Epstein case in particular, and him saying that he thinks that the cover-up is just, there's just way too many things that are lining up for it to be cover-up and just thinks that, yeah, that's why he's angry.

02:06:38.000 It's justifiably so. 0.59

02:06:39.000 He pointed out the video that I think it was like Coffeezilla on his second channel put together a video of a bunch of all the different times of Trump talking about it, other people in the administration talking about it, Cash talking about it, Dan Boncinha talking about it.

02:06:52.000 I don't know if that was the most recent video, or what was the reason he said he was most angry about it?

02:06:56.000 I just saw a video thumbnail today yesterday.

02:06:58.000 He was mad about that.

02:06:59.000 He looked like it's been building for him.

02:07:01.000 I can see his patience are wearing thin, and he's got 100 million people listening to him.

02:07:06.000 Shout out to him.

02:07:07.000 I love him.

02:07:07.000 Zach, I love you, brother.

02:07:09.000 I want to be there for you in whatever way I can.

02:07:11.000 So I feel the pain.

02:07:12.000 And CoffeeZilla's other channel is a VoidZilla.

02:07:14.000 His VoidZilla channel also does great work.

02:07:17.000 Yeah, Zach, I've been following Zach for, that's Asmen Gold, I don't know, a decade almost, eight years.

02:07:22.000 I love him.

02:07:23.000 There's this funny World of Warcraft video gamer because I'm just thinking, we're getting this, I want to get this developer, video game developer, on a show sometime, and that we should talk more about video games because of the way it influences the culture.

02:07:33.000 And then I thought of Zach.

02:07:35.000 Do you ever go and do Gamer Meads?

02:07:38.000 I used to once in a while.

02:07:40.000 You should.

02:07:41.000 Yeah, it's just about getting here and doing it.

02:07:44.000 Not so much about playing the games, interviewing developers.

02:07:46.000 I'm more interested in interviewing the game developers than playing the games online.

02:07:50.000 That's the thing about Asma. 0.70

02:07:51.000 I'm not really into games.

02:07:52.000 My little brother was really big into video games his whole life and stuff, into game design and stuff.

02:07:57.000 I never really got into it, but it's funny because I can watch him and kind of the stuff they talked about.

02:08:02.000 He streams on Twitch.

02:08:03.000 Streams on Twitch, but eclipse all of his stuff on YouTube.

02:08:06.000 I'm surprised Twitch hasn't banned him.

02:08:08.000 Yeah, I know.

02:08:08.000 But the amount of money he makes on Kik2 is astronomically more than what he's making on Kickstarter.

02:08:12.000 Is it because Kik pays him?

02:08:13.000 Yes, exactly.

02:08:14.000 Kick's a casino, right?

02:08:16.000 Sponsored by all the big casino people, yeah.

02:08:18.000 I don't know what they're doing.

02:08:19.000 I think Kik is a casino.

02:08:20.000 So are they, you know, you might know something about this.

02:08:23.000 I'm curious.

02:08:23.000 You see these side-by-sides on X where you see like, okay, here are my monthly Twitch earnings.

02:08:28.000 Here are my monthly Kik earnings.

02:08:31.000 I don't understand how Kik is like 10X.

02:08:35.000 What Twitch is.

02:08:36.000 Is it because of the gambling ads?

02:08:38.000 Is that all that is?

02:08:39.000 A lot of money is funding it, basically.

02:08:41.000 I believe there's someone tying the money to somewhere in the Middle East as well.

02:08:44.000 I don't really know.

02:08:44.000 I was going to say, it's hard to believe that that would be profitable for the amount that they pay out.

02:08:50.000 I mean, anything's profitable if you have any, if we're doing sports books, should we try and restream on Twitch?

02:08:55.000 I mean, we could.

02:08:56.000 We get banned in two seconds.

02:08:58.000 I don't know.

02:08:59.000 I don't know because, I mean, they put up with Hassan.

02:09:02.000 Yeah, but Hassan. 0.63

02:09:03.000 Yes, but he's not on the left.

02:09:03.000 Hassan will be mad about it, and then Hassan will make a video about it, and then Twitch will ban us.

02:09:07.000 Right.

02:09:07.000 I mean, maybe.

02:09:08.000 I mean, that's what happened.

02:09:10.000 Crying is worth it.

02:09:11.000 We're basically self-banning if we don't give it a shot, so we might as well.

02:09:14.000 I mean, we should just be restreaming on all platforms.

02:09:16.000 Kik, apparently, Kik is hot.

02:09:18.000 Who owns Kik?

02:09:19.000 The payments on Kik are crazy.

02:09:20.000 I don't know if you'd be partnered with them in order to get them out.

02:09:23.000 I think you should get a kick in Twitch.

02:09:24.000 I think kick is like, isn't kick like, It's controlled by Ed Craven and Bijan Tarani, the co-founders of stake.com.

02:09:33.000 Correct.

02:09:34.000 Yep.

02:09:34.000 It might be a separate company, but they have that ethos of.

02:09:37.000 But it's like, the way I heard it described is that Kik is the venue for stake.

02:09:42.000 So every casino has a venue to bring people in so that they can get them to gamble.

02:09:46.000 Oh, my kid.

02:09:47.000 Yep.

02:09:48.000 You can gamble on the stream or TV.

02:09:50.000 I mean, there's no reason we shouldn't be streaming on every platform.

02:09:53.000 Right.

02:09:53.000 Yeah.

02:09:54.000 Maybe we just do it and see what happens.

02:09:55.000 Sure.

02:09:56.000 Wouldn't it be funny if all of a sudden the viewership's like tripled?

02:09:59.000 It'd be funny.

02:10:00.000 Two Cast OnlyFans channel coming soon.

02:10:02.000 Yeah, why not?

02:10:04.000 Gamification of Twitch.

02:10:05.000 it could get to the point where you're making so much money on Twitch that you hire a dedicated Twitch admin that just plays with the chat during the show and makes sure all the bits are kicking and the hearts and the emojis are cool looking and all that stuff.

02:10:17.000 So, I got to ask you something about you guys here, you are monitoring the chat a lot of the time, right?

02:10:22.000 Tim, I'm sure you monitor the chat, you know, a lot of the time. 0.97

02:10:25.000 How much shit talking goes on against any? 0.98

02:10:28.000 Because I don't watch the chats when I'm on something. 1.00

02:10:30.000 It's all shit talking. 0.99

02:10:31.000 I probably should. 0.99

02:10:32.000 The whole thing.

02:10:33.000 I'll look at the channel.

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