Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Leftist Journo THREATS Spark PANIC After UnitedHealth ASSASSINATION w-Amber Duke | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:29.000 Interestingly, the exact criticism that she posted of the exact company she was targeting has now backtracked following the assassination of the CEO of UnitedHealth.

00:00:40.000 So to put it simply...

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00:00:51.000 a book about how insurance companies are screwing people over.

00:00:55.000 Taylor Lorenz then posted on social media how she and many others want more of this, then posted an explanation for why they did, and then posted an image and the name of the CEO of Blue Cross.

00:01:10.000 And now, surprise, surprise, the very policy that was being critiqued has been reversed.

00:01:16.000 It's kind of a shocking revelation, to say the least.

00:01:19.000 Leftists are engaging in what I would describe as terrorism on the internet after a guy was murdered, and they're celebrating it, and it seems like these companies are very, very terrified.

00:01:28.000 So we'll talk about that, plus there's just a lot of stuff going on.

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00:01:51.000 And generally, this assassination story is getting crazy because it does look like it might be ideologically motivated.

00:01:57.000 And the police have released an image of someone they see is a person of interest, not the suspect.

00:02:02.000 And everybody just immediately assumed that person of interest meant suspect.

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00:05:03.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary, so let's talk about news stuff.

00:05:08.000 Here's the big story from the Daily Mail.

00:05:10.000 Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield makes major U-turn following the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

00:05:17.000 All right, there's a lot to break down to understand the severity of this story.

00:05:21.000 So as you all know, the other day, early in the morning, we saw the CEO of the largest health insurer in the country get gunned down.

00:05:29.000 635, I think it was.

00:05:30.000 And many people are saying it looks like it might have been a pro.

00:05:33.000 New information has come out.

00:05:34.000 That a cryptic message was scrolled onto the casings of one of the rounds.

00:05:38.000 In the video, you can see the guy is firing and then cycling the weapon and ejecting live rounds.

00:05:44.000 And it does appear.

00:05:45.000 Now, I've watched a couple more of these expert gun guy videos.

00:05:48.000 They said, no, it looks like it's malfunctioning.

00:05:51.000 I believe it was one of the live rounds had a phrase scrawled on it and it said depose, deny, defend, which is similar to delay, deny, defend, the name of a book about how insurance companies are screwing people over.

00:06:04.000 So it certainly seems like this is leaning more towards the ideological motivation.

00:06:08.000 That being said, if this was just a hit, they'd want it to look like it was politically motivated to throw the scent off their trail.

00:06:15.000 Now, what does that have to do with Blue Cross backtracking?

00:06:18.000 This goes to Taylor Lorenz, a former Washington Post reporter.

00:06:23.000 I mean, this is the corporate press here.

00:06:25.000 She doesn't work there anymore. 0.61

00:06:26.000 And she made a series of posts on social media, one in which she referenced Blue Cross specifically.

00:06:32.000 This post said Blue Cross Blue Shield in Connecticut, New York and Missouri has declared it will no longer pay for anesthesia for the full length of some surgeries.

00:06:41.000 If the procedure goes over a certain time, anesthesia will not be covered.

00:06:44.000 And she responded that, I'm not going to read her quote, but she said that's why she and everyone else, she said, we want these executives, if you know what I mean.

00:06:54.000 So she literally stated it.

00:06:57.000 She then went on.

00:06:58.000 I don't know if they actually have the full post.

00:07:00.000 She then went on to actually post the image of the CEO of Blue Cross over another story asserting the same thing.

00:07:10.000 That is to say it looks like what what could only look.

00:07:14.000 These are veiled terroristic threats, to put it simply.

00:07:17.000 And it worked.

00:07:18.000 So I guess, wow, that's shocking and terrifying.

00:07:22.000 The Daily Mail says Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield has reversed a policy change that would have seen them tie payments in some states the length of a time a patient went under anesthesia.

00:07:30.000 The insurance company was one of the largest health insurance companies in the country backtracked on the move following widespread outcry.

00:07:36.000 Or perhaps it was Taylor Lorenz saying that she wanted these people to die, making a long post about how many people want them to die, and then posting the image of the woman for everyone to see, while scores of leftists across social media are saying more, more, more.

00:07:52.000 Maybe it's just terrorism.

00:07:53.000 It's definitely terrorism. 0.70

00:07:55.000 It sets a horrible, horrible precedent.

00:07:58.000 Obviously, I get it.

00:08:00.000 If people are concerned for their safety, that makes perfect sense.

00:08:05.000 But there are a lot of security companies out there.

00:08:09.000 There's a lot of people that are in the business of protecting people.

00:08:13.000 I was talking about this earlier.

00:08:14.000 It doesn't matter.

00:08:15.000 Security companies don't matter, right?

00:08:17.000 So the issue with what they're doing with these threats, I'll explain it very simply.

00:08:22.000 There was a security incident with me in Nashville.

00:08:25.000 We were hanging out with John Rich on the show.

00:08:27.000 I said, hey, let's go to your honky-tonk and let's play a show.

00:08:29.000 And he said, let's do it.

00:08:30.000 And then we announced, like, it's going to be a big show.

00:08:33.000 John Rich, country music star.

00:08:36.000 I'll be there.

00:08:37.000 I play music, too.

00:08:39.000 And someone showed up, pretending to be security, asking about weird information.

00:08:46.000 Whole thing got shut down. 0.99

00:08:48.000 I said, screw these people. 0.99

00:08:49.000 They're not going to scare me. 0.99

00:08:50.000 I'm not going to be threatened out of doing a show.

00:08:52.000 And I was told, Tim, there are children walking down the street.

00:08:55.000 If a crazy person shows up with a weapon and there's a crossfire, these kids could get hurt.

00:09:00.000 We can't do it.

00:09:01.000 You cannot do this.

00:09:02.000 So when these people put out these threats to these CEOs, it's not so simple to just say the CEOs can get security because that CEO means they can't go out to a picnic with their kids at the park.

00:09:12.000 They can't go on a boat ride.

00:09:14.000 They can't go on a cruise because one crazy person, Like, this guy targeting the CEO, it was early in the morning, but what, this is New York, what if there are crowds?

00:09:24.000 So they can have all security in the world and someone can show up and just unload into a crowd and then innocent people get hurt.

00:09:29.000 The threats from these far leftists cannot be tolerated.

00:09:32.000 I think Taylor Lorenz, let me ask you guys, I mean, do you think Taylor Lorenz should face some kind of criminal or civil penalty for doing this?

00:09:39.000 I think so.

00:09:40.000 And I think it's insane that she worked at both the Washington Post and the New York Times before that and was heralded as basically the go-to reporter for internet trends for at least five or six years.

00:09:52.000 She, remember, was the person who put Kellyanne Conway's daughter into the spotlight and used a child to advance her liberal activism.

00:10:00.000 And now she has tucked tail away from the corporate media and Blame them, even though they're the ones who gave her a platform for, I guess, everything that's going wrong in politics. 0.88

00:10:09.000 But it's absolutely disgusting.

00:10:11.000 And we have seen the consequences of this type of rhetoric with what happened to Trump, right?

00:10:15.000 I mean, it's a perfect analogy with the Butler rally, which you're talking about, Tim, because there was someone who died in the crowd because of that shooter in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:10:24.000 And there were other people there who were completely innocent, who had nothing to do with the president, who were injured.

00:10:29.000 So, these types of threats, this type of behavior, is not just relegated to the person that they want to target in their crosshairs, and it's the exact same type of connection that they make too, Right. 0.99

00:10:45.000 It's well, this person is somehow directly responsible for my life being crap. 0.99

00:10:49.000 And so I have to kill them in order to affect change rather than going through the normal democratic process. 0.99

00:10:55.000 Or in this case, if you're talking about corporations, boycotting or picketing or protesting or literally anything short of being physically violent. 0.99

00:11:04.000 I like that she exposes herself as being this bloodthirsty. 0.98

00:11:08.000 I like seeing exactly how she feels because this is, to me, an extension of the summer of violence where their preferred language is violence, and that's how they want to affect policy.

00:11:19.000 I think it's horrible and despicable. 0.98

00:11:21.000 I think she's a gross human being. 1.00

00:11:24.000 You know, it's funny. 0.99

00:11:25.000 I bet Washington Post—where did she work? 1.00

00:11:27.000 Did she work at The Atlantic?

00:11:28.000 I think that's right.

00:11:29.000 Did you work at New York Times?

00:11:30.000 It was Atlantic, then New York Times, then Washington Post, I believe.

00:11:32.000 All the greatest ones.

00:11:32.000 She's been everywhere, yeah.

00:11:34.000 I bet they regret hiring her.

00:11:35.000 Do you?

00:11:37.000 I don't know.

00:11:37.000 I think they like these people.

00:11:39.000 No, no, like the story at Washington Post was that the veteran journalists were freaking out that they hired some millennial e-writer.

00:11:47.000 Activist.

00:11:47.000 If she's even a millennial.

00:11:49.000 That's true.

00:11:50.000 We don't know her age.

00:11:51.000 True, that's why she wears an mask. 1.00

00:11:52.000 Allegedly 50 years old.

00:11:54.000 Here's a tweet from Jarvis Best on X who said, I love Taylor Lorenz so much because she spends half her time wishing death on her enemies and the other half complaining about online bullying. 0.97

00:12:03.000 So true.

00:12:04.000 Wow.

00:12:04.000 So true.

00:12:05.000 I mean, it's true.

00:12:07.000 It's typical of the left, though.

00:12:09.000 I mean, you hear, like you referenced, the Summer of Love, the idea that by any means necessary, which Tim's talked about, that's an actual organization, you know, by any means necessary.

00:12:20.000 The idea that you have to respect a variety of tactics, I think is what they say.

00:12:27.000 Diversity of tactics.

00:12:28.000 Diversity of tactics, yeah.

00:12:29.000 These are all things that are typical of the left.

00:12:33.000 Violence is not actually something that comes from the right frequently, though it does happen.

00:12:39.000 It's usually leftist violence.

00:12:41.000 It's usually lower grade violence than right-leaning violence.

00:12:46.000 Right-leaning violence is more about trying to actually...

00:12:51.000 Cause damage, whereas leftist violence is frequently just trying to scare people and intimidate people, which they've effectively done.

00:12:57.000 To corporations, to politicians, through the summer of love.

00:13:00.000 And then to connect that to what Tim's saying about collateral damage, look at the no-go zones that they were taking over.

00:13:06.000 You know, kids were losing their lives.

00:13:08.000 They were getting gunned down in these spots.

00:13:10.000 Random people drove through and they were getting shot at.

00:13:12.000 This is tough for me because Taylor Lorenz didn't explicitly state on her page, hey, I want something to happen to this person.

00:13:18.000 And so I think the interpretation is clear.

00:13:22.000 And the question is, do we tolerate Taylor Lorenz saying, hey, she has like this long explanation about why these executives are bad and everyone agrees.

00:13:31.000 She then says she wants them dead and then she posts a picture of another CEO. I'm like, I don't know, I feel like she didn't explicitly state something that should happen, and she's dancing on the line.

00:13:43.000 We can't set the precedent, I think, of...

00:13:45.000 Arresting her.

00:13:46.000 Or arresting her, you know?

00:13:48.000 I think that's tough.

00:13:49.000 It is tough because it's gruesome.

00:13:51.000 It's ghoulish.

00:13:52.000 Maybe we have to consider the context around a CEO just got assassinated and then she did this and that is where we say, hey, yeah, she is advocating for this.

00:14:01.000 She wants it to happen.

00:14:02.000 I mean, look, when you literally say we want more of this and then post a photo, I think that's fair to argue that's...

00:14:07.000 That's a threat to me.

00:14:08.000 Yeah, that's a threat.

00:14:09.000 When you say we want more of this, yeah.

00:14:12.000 Then I have to say, like...

00:14:14.000 If, man, I guess.

00:14:16.000 Blue Cross feels the same way.

00:14:18.000 Absolutely.

00:14:19.000 They were like, this is a threat.

00:14:20.000 We're going to reverse our policy.

00:14:21.000 I mean, they're saying because of an outcry, but imagine you're the CEO and you're like, I mean, it was what just happened. 0.97

00:14:27.000 It was a crap policy to start, to be fair. 0.97

00:14:30.000 Oh, these places need some major change. 0.99

00:14:32.000 But hold on.

00:14:32.000 I mean, this is the challenge I have with it.

00:14:34.000 We don't even know what the policy is other than some leftist said, here's my thoughts on it, and then advocated for murder.

00:14:40.000 I wanted to bring this up because I'm sort of reactionary.

00:14:43.000 So when I hear everyone saying the same thing directionally about a policy, I'm like, okay, well, let's find out what the policy actually is.

00:14:50.000 And I was looking at some community notes on X related to this.

00:14:52.000 Shout out to community notes, by the way.

00:14:53.000 Amazing feature.

00:14:55.000 But people were explaining that they were actually updating their standards for anesthesiology claims to the same standards that are employed by the CMS through Medicare and Medicaid.

00:15:06.000 So they were actually going by the government's timelines for how long surgeries are supposed to last, and there's a cap on it for what Medicare and Medicaid will pay out based on those time limits.

00:15:15.000 Because of the level of insurance fraud that apparently they were facing from anesthesiologists, which is apparently pretty common, that's why they changed the policy.

00:15:25.000 Far be it from me to defend a giant insurance company, but it seems like we weren't really being told all of the details about what exactly they were doing and why.

00:15:33.000 And Taylor's just celebrating the death.

00:15:36.000 There's so many reasons that UnitedHealth has issues.

00:15:38.000 And we don't even know why he was killed, right?

00:15:41.000 Because he's got personal things going on, estranged from the wife.

00:15:44.000 He's estranged from his wife?

00:15:45.000 Yeah.

00:15:46.000 Insider trading.

00:15:47.000 He sold off, what was it, like 31% of his shares 11 days before the investigation went public.

00:15:52.000 Made $15 million on it.

00:15:54.000 So that's all weird.

00:15:55.000 And then, but they're also in trouble a year or two ago for using AI that had a 90% error rate.

00:16:01.000 R.S. reported that.

00:16:02.000 There's a million different things going on.

00:16:03.000 90% error rate and it delayed, denied.

00:16:05.000 Right, right, right.

00:16:07.000 Well, let's jump to this next story.

00:16:09.000 Well, I will briefly mention before we move on.

00:16:11.000 Taylor Lorenz defended her... 1.00

00:16:13.000 Okay, let's just...

00:16:14.000 We'll talk about this because we have to.

00:16:16.000 Okay, this is from Mediaite.

00:16:18.000 Taylor Lorenz defends her celebration of Brian Thompson's murder saying it's natural. 0.96

00:16:23.000 It's natural if you're a demon. 0.93

00:16:24.000 Let me read. 1.00

00:16:25.000 These people are mind-blowingly evil and stupid. 1.00

00:16:29.000 Former New York Times and Washington Post journalist Taylor Lorenz defended her celebration of the assassination of Brian Thompson. 1.00

00:16:34.000 On Wednesday in the hours immediately following Thompson being shot, Lorenz expressed her dismay with health industry saying, and people wonder why we want these executives, if you know what I mean.

00:16:44.000 I'm not going to read her full statement.

00:16:45.000 She wanted to share celebratory graphics that she said were being spammed in her group chats.

00:16:51.000 It's a picture of a star smiling, and it says CEO down.

00:16:55.000 And she's like, that's just what my group chat's sharing.

00:16:58.000 What group chat are you in, dude?

00:17:00.000 Anyway, unsurprisingly, her joy over the extinguishment of Thompson's life drew criticism.

00:17:05.000 After providing some examples of others dancing on Thompson's grave while only mentioning one of her many enthusiastic posts, she addressed the backlash, saying, quote, naturally, the mainstream media began pearl clutching in outrage after I posted a quote tweet about insurance companies no longer paying for certain anesthesia with the phrase.

00:17:21.000 And people wonder why we want these executives, you know, and then she goes into mention not being alive anymore.

00:17:26.000 Legacy media outlets, including Fox News, pounced and wrote a slew of articles about my calls for violence.

00:17:31.000 Let me be super clear.

00:17:33.000 My post uses a collective we and is saying the public's explaining the public sentiment.

00:17:38.000 It is not me personally saying I want these executives dead.

00:17:41.000 And I'm not going to read her quote.

00:17:44.000 I am explaining that thousands of Americans, myself included, are fed up with our barbaric health care system and the people at the top who rake in millions while inflicting pain, suffering and the death on millions of innocent people.

00:17:53.000 So basically, she said...

00:17:55.000 Oh, I can't believe they're mad at me.

00:17:57.000 I wasn't saying I want it to happen.

00:17:59.000 I'm saying I, as well as other people, want it to happen.

00:18:01.000 She was speaking for all of us.

00:18:02.000 Not for me.

00:18:03.000 Thanks, Taylor.

00:18:03.000 Definitely not for me.

00:18:05.000 Before we move on, there's one thing that I want to point out, though.

00:18:08.000 The problems that people face with our health care system go way beyond insurance.

00:18:13.000 There's no reason for you to need to have insurance just to go see your regular doctor for a checkup.

00:18:20.000 Most of the time, most people should be able to afford that.

00:18:23.000 Like, it's not necessary for things to cost as much as they do.

00:18:27.000 And if it wasn't for the fact that insurance and health care is tied to employment, you need insurance for literally anything that you do.

00:18:35.000 If all these barriers to entry were not, didn't exist, health care in the U.S. would be significantly cheaper.

00:18:43.000 So it's easy to point at the big company and say it's their fault, but it's not actually, it's not exclusively the big company's.

00:18:51.000 The big government in and of itself is directly responsible for a lot of the policies that doctors have to follow that make it necessary to have the big companies and stuff involved in everyday healthcare.

00:19:04.000 One of the problems I take with the far left is that Absolutely.

00:19:15.000 Most companies, of course, have revolving door lobbyists who want to get jobs in the government and then get jobs these companies.

00:19:20.000 But it is the angry left saying more government regulations creating the system that they then complain about and then use to justify death.

00:19:27.000 To that point, back in the 90s, IBM had zero lobbyists and they were proud of that.

00:19:33.000 They talked about it all the time.

00:19:34.000 We don't have anyone in D.C. because they did have the opinion that we don't need to go to the government until the government came after them and said, we're going to sue you as a monopoly.

00:19:44.000 And then they're like...

00:19:45.000 Well, what are we going to do if we're a successful business?

00:19:48.000 We're just doing business.

00:19:49.000 We make computers.

00:19:50.000 It's not like people don't have the option to go somewhere else because IBM in the 90s isn't IBM today.

00:19:56.000 Bill Gates was rich, but he wasn't as powerful and rich as he is today.

00:19:59.000 And so the only option they had was to get lobbyists, to hire lobbyists, so that way the government wouldn't come after them.

00:20:07.000 So...

00:20:08.000 I was looking at old videos from a few years ago about UnitedHealth and their issues, and people were referring to them as an alternate government because of how big they've become.

00:20:17.000 I think that's really interesting.

00:20:18.000 They have more money than J.P. Morgan.

00:20:20.000 It's a huge thing.

00:20:22.000 That's true, but at the same time, I heard today that their margin is something like 2%.

00:20:26.000 So granted, the dude made— Which is why they have AI cutting people so they can make money.

00:20:29.000 The guy that got killed made $10 million a year, and it's an exorbitant amount of money.

00:20:36.000 But because of the margin they work on, again, 2%, that's spending a lot of money to make the money they do.

00:20:45.000 And for CEOs of a company that big with that much of revenue, $10 million is not that exorbitant, actually.

00:20:54.000 If you compare it to other companies of similar size.

00:20:56.000 I mean, you're never going to tell a leftist that that's broke.

00:20:59.000 You're never going to tell them that and they're going to say, OK, they blame everybody else for their problems.

00:21:02.000 And this is completely unsurprising.

00:21:04.000 I mean, Taylor Lorenz and her ilk are the same kind of people who basically wish death on people who didn't get vaccinated during COVID and said that it's their fault that she's getting sick and she has to raw dog the air to this day.

00:21:16.000 It is embarrassing.

00:21:17.000 You know, and it's funny that she's kind of getting the brunt of this story, but she is one of the most prominent individuals who has directly engaged in what I would call veiled terrorism.

00:21:26.000 They veiled because she didn't literally say go do it, but we all kind of got the gist of what she was saying, right?

00:21:32.000 Or if you're dealing with people that are on the edge of society, maybe they have borderline mental illness or something like that, and you're saying these things, they're going to pick up what you're putting down.

00:21:45.000 And that's who their base is.

00:21:47.000 If you look at studies of white liberals, it's something like two-thirds of them have been diagnosed with a mental illness. 0.98

00:21:54.000 That's white liberals.

00:21:55.000 compared to white conservatives, it's something like 20 to 25 percent. 0.95

00:21:59.000 So they literally are speaking to a collective group of mentally ill people who would be more predisposed to engaging in this kind of behavior. 0.96

00:22:07.000 Yep.

00:22:08.000 They're hopped up on SSRIs, all types of good stuff.

00:22:11.000 So, yeah, one of the things that really irks me about a lot of these people, well, the left in general. 0.98

00:22:17.000 The organizers, the activists, people I've met, they are not stupid people. 0.94

00:22:21.000 They know how finance works. 0.80

00:22:23.000 They know how much money takes to run a business.

00:22:25.000 They're intelligent.

00:22:27.000 They're nihilistic.

00:22:29.000 During Occupy Wall Street, they explained it outright to me.

00:22:32.000 They understand everything that's going on.

00:22:34.000 They just don't think anything matters.

00:22:35.000 So why should they care about you or your life?

00:22:38.000 This is like the Hillary Clinton mentality. 1.00

00:22:40.000 I'm smart. 1.00

00:22:41.000 You're dumb. 1.00

00:22:41.000 I should just make you do things for me. 1.00

00:22:44.000 And so it results in really stupid people not knowing how money works. 0.99

00:22:49.000 And they say things like, the CEO of this major, this Fortune 500 company got paid $12 million last year, and the workers are only getting $15 an hour. 0.99

00:23:00.000 And then I'm like, all right, let's stop.

00:23:02.000 How many employees does that company have?

00:23:04.000 They'll be like, I don't know, 40,000?

00:23:05.000 Alright, let's divide 12 million by 40,000.

00:23:08.000 How much money do you want to give to the employees?

00:23:10.000 Now, I'm not saying it's good if CEOs are ripping off the company and doing bad things, selling stocks before investigations or whatever would be happening, but it's like, you're not talking about solutions, you're just saying, I'm mad.

00:23:22.000 And then when we say, here's a solution, you burn the solution and say, I don't want a solution, I want to be mad.

00:23:27.000 Yeah, because the solution that they actually want is, I want the world, I want a communist utopia.

00:23:33.000 Well, but think about what that is, right?

00:23:35.000 The people who want communist utopia are not saying they want a communist utopia.

00:23:39.000 They're saying, I don't want to do any work, and I want to be able to live and just chill.

00:23:43.000 That's really what they're saying.

00:23:45.000 So we had a meeting today with Ian and a couple of video producers, and we're talking about how do we make movies and shows, and what are the cultural moves we need to make?

00:23:52.000 And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, these guys are motivated and want to get stuff done.

00:23:57.000 You don't need communism if you're a person who just wants to do work, if you have drive and ambition, because the money comes with the ambition that you have.

00:24:07.000 And it may be, maybe you're a working class guy, and you're struggling to get by, and it's tough, but your motivation is, I got a family, and I'm going to feed my family, I'm going to work as hard as I have to do it.

00:24:17.000 You don't need communism.

00:24:19.000 You are going to do what you have to do.

00:24:20.000 The communists are the people who are like, but I don't want to wake up.

00:24:24.000 Not for nothing, but I was doing exactly what I do here on Twitter for like 12 years, 13 years before I came and joined the crew here.

00:24:36.000 Doing exactly the same thing.

00:24:38.000 And even if I wasn't here every night of the week, I would still be doing this on Twitter because that's what I did before.

00:24:46.000 This is recreation to me.

00:24:49.000 And their idea of getting paid not to work would actually make their mental health issues worse.

00:24:54.000 I mean, I think there's inherent value in work and toil and in being productive.

00:24:57.000 And the idea that you would sit around all day doing literally nothing, like the idea that that would give more purpose to your life or make you better off is so backwards.

00:25:06.000 Isolation was so destructive during lockdowns.

00:25:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:09.000 But this is the crazy thing that for whatever reason, the liberal worldview is work equals bad.

00:25:14.000 And I'm like, work is life.

00:25:17.000 And it's weird that we develop this culture where they're like, whoa, man, your work is your life.

00:25:21.000 What's wrong with you, dude?

00:25:22.000 And I'm like, a guy 300 years ago who grew up with his dad who was a blacksmith was not upset that someone came to him and said, I need a new sword.

00:25:32.000 And he was like, I know how to make them.

00:25:34.000 Check it out!

00:25:35.000 And then makes it.

00:25:36.000 And they're like, this is the finest sword I've ever seen.

00:25:37.000 It's like, thank you, sir.

00:25:38.000 It made you feel good.

00:25:40.000 Made you feel a part of society.

00:25:41.000 You were useful.

00:25:42.000 And for some reason over the past several decades, we've developed this like drugged out hippie mentality of like, life should be just like laying around and looking at the sky.

00:25:51.000 What?

00:25:52.000 They'll be in the fields when they get their utopia of communism.

00:25:55.000 Oh, they don't get it.

00:25:56.000 Three-body problem.

00:25:57.000 Have you guys seen it?

00:25:58.000 It went viral a while ago because it's a Netflix show and it opened with the culture revolution in China.

00:26:05.000 And it's epic.

00:26:06.000 And because it's so old, I'm going to spoil a bit of it.

00:26:09.000 But you've got this Red Guard woman beating a guy, a professor, for refusing to give him the answers they want on stage. 1.00

00:26:15.000 He's got a dunce camp on.

00:26:17.000 Later on, this woman, her hand has been amputated and she's breaking rocks in a field.

00:26:23.000 These lefty communists don't realize, Let me ask you.

00:26:27.000 You don't want to work?

00:26:28.000 What skills do you have?

00:26:30.000 What passions drive you?

00:26:33.000 Nothing?

00:26:33.000 Okay, break rocks.

00:26:35.000 Because the dude who knows how to program computers, the communists are going to be like, okay, program computers.

00:26:39.000 And then you say, but I just want to, like, read and do poetry.

00:26:43.000 Break rocks, and they're going to put you in a quarry.

00:26:45.000 They're going to say, do the labor you can do, because to each according to their needs, from each according to their means.

00:26:52.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:26:54.000 And that means, what are you good at, and what can you do?

00:26:57.000 Okay, well, we'll give you a little bit of food, and the only thing you're capable of doing for the system is going to be menial labor. 0.95

00:27:05.000 Congratulations, you've got everything you've ever wanted.

00:27:06.000 It's interesting that they don't teach the Cultural Revolution in a lot of colleges or schools.

00:27:12.000 A lot of people don't just know about what happened with Mao.

00:27:15.000 They don't know what happened with Stalin.

00:27:16.000 Oh, for sure it's intentional because they want to implement it.

00:27:18.000 If you know the consequences, you might be afraid to go down that utopian route.

00:27:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:23.000 Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.

00:27:25.000 Oh, they say grinning suspect UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson's murder seen in newly released pics.

00:27:31.000 The police did not say this was a suspect.

00:27:34.000 So I'm going to hit refresh on this and see if they've changed the headline.

00:27:38.000 Indeed, they did not.

00:27:40.000 The NYPD Crimestopper said this is a person of interest who is seen staying at a at a hostel on the Upper West Side.

00:27:49.000 It is not the same jacket.

00:27:50.000 It is not the same backpack.

00:27:53.000 Many people are saying, but wait, wait, let me I'll just actually show you the photo.

00:27:57.000 Here's the photo of the assassin from Crime Stoppers with the gray backpack, the black hoodie with the mask on.

00:28:03.000 I would say based on this grainy photo, I can't really tell, but let me know if you guys agree.

00:28:08.000 This person looks to be middle-aged.

00:28:10.000 Do you think so?

00:28:11.000 No.

00:28:12.000 I think they look younger than that.

00:28:13.000 You think that person looks younger?

00:28:14.000 They could be younger too, yeah.

00:28:15.000 I don't.

00:28:15.000 I look at the hands and I see the white, the discoloration, and I say, I think that person's probably early, maybe mid-40s or older.

00:28:23.000 Could be 50. It is cold outside though.

00:28:26.000 That's true, but younger people don't have, so that white on the hands is much more common in older people.

00:28:34.000 I could be wrong.

00:28:35.000 But I look at this, and they're clearly not the same person either way.

00:28:39.000 Literally just not the same person.

00:28:41.000 And everybody saw this and just immediately assumed it was the suspect when the police said it was a person of interest.

00:28:47.000 And this person looks very different.

00:28:48.000 I gotta be completely honest.

00:28:50.000 It looks like a mask to me.

00:28:51.000 A mask?

00:28:52.000 Like a CIA mask.

00:28:53.000 You ever seen those crazy latex masks?

00:28:55.000 Yeah.

00:28:55.000 Latex masks?

00:28:56.000 Actually, that looks...

00:28:58.000 Like, that face looks weird.

00:28:59.000 And that nose is massive.

00:29:01.000 No disrespect.

00:29:01.000 I don't know who this person is.

00:29:03.000 If it's just like some random guy staying at a hostel and he's like, dude, stop breaking up my nose.

00:29:06.000 But that could make sense.

00:29:09.000 Seriously.

00:29:10.000 If he's professional and he's not been found yet, we know these things have existed for decades.

00:29:15.000 But you can buy these masks on the internet for dirt cheap.

00:29:17.000 Instagram wants me to buy one all the time.

00:29:19.000 I'm like, I'm not getting one.

00:29:20.000 I'm not doing anything crazy.

00:29:21.000 I don't know if it was Luke who bought it.

00:29:22.000 I think Luke bought a muscle suit.

00:29:26.000 A silicon muscle suit.

00:29:27.000 Was it Luke who bought that?

00:29:28.000 Yeah.

00:29:29.000 It was like a joke and a big fake boots.

00:29:31.000 Oh, there was that one, yeah.

00:29:32.000 How could you forget?

00:29:33.000 Dude, and the weirdest thing is someone also bought a pregnancy belly.

00:29:36.000 That's weird.

00:29:36.000 That is very weird.

00:29:38.000 Maybe that's what he wore to get away.

00:29:40.000 But hold on.

00:29:41.000 But they do do this stuff.

00:29:42.000 Exactly.

00:29:43.000 I mean, think about it.

00:29:44.000 If you're an assassin and you've got a backpack on, you just pulled this off, people are saying, I bet he changed his clothes.

00:29:50.000 I'm like, imagine if he was wearing...

00:29:53.000 Like a muscle suit to make him look bigger.

00:29:55.000 So in the photos, they're looking for a guy who's about six feet tall with a muscular build.

00:30:00.000 And then he goes into an alley and he pulls this silicon suit off, shoves it into a backpack and puts on a button up and then like ditches the backpack in a garbage or something.

00:30:08.000 100%.

00:30:09.000 I really believe that.

00:30:10.000 You can go on YouTube and see a ton of videos of former, I don't believe in former CIA agents, but former CIA agents doing the mask thing.

00:30:16.000 And they show you how it's effective.

00:30:18.000 There's a lady doing one. 1.00

00:30:19.000 There's that guy who's on Lex Friedman's podcast talking about it a while back.

00:30:24.000 I mean, and UnitedHealth is a giant thing.

00:30:26.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:30:27.000 If they were considered an alt-government-type giant thing, this is a huge job.

00:30:33.000 Whoever it is.

00:30:34.000 And you gotta get away.

00:30:35.000 And you're in the New York City, a surveillance state.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, look at this.

00:30:39.000 There's cameras everywhere.

00:30:40.000 I just searched for real face masks.

00:30:42.000 Yeah.

00:30:43.000 Dude, they're crazy. 0.99

00:30:44.000 That is crazy. 0.99

00:30:44.000 Yeah, dude. 0.99

00:30:45.000 I don't know that I have an opinion on whether or not that guy was wearing a mask.

00:30:49.000 But, like, in New York, or in New York City...

00:30:53.000 Especially at the time of day, like 6.45 in the morning, you can get on the subway and very quickly...

00:31:02.000 He went to Central Park and you can get on the subway or whatever and get to an airport real quick and disappear.

00:31:09.000 It wasn't a marked city bike like they thought it was a city bike at first and it was another bike.

00:31:14.000 Oh, it wasn't?

00:31:14.000 Okay.

00:31:15.000 This is pretty planned out.

00:31:17.000 I see these people on Fox talking about, well, he was not a professional because he went to Starbucks.

00:31:21.000 But what if he had a mask on to throw it off?

00:31:23.000 I mean, it's possible.

00:31:24.000 This could be a crazy plan.

00:31:25.000 There was a report today, too, that he gave a fake ID when he was checking in at the hostel.

00:31:30.000 So, I mean, it's obviously pre-planned.

00:31:33.000 Yeah, they're probably not going to get this guy.

00:31:34.000 Well, yeah, it was clearly pre-planned.

00:31:36.000 I mean, there was a bike waiting for him.

00:31:39.000 Not even locked up.

00:31:40.000 He walked over, jumped on it, and rode away.

00:31:42.000 That's crazy.

00:31:42.000 So here's where it gets crazy.

00:31:45.000 Part of this story that broke last night was that a message was found inscribed on one of the bullet casings.

00:31:50.000 Listen to this.

00:31:51.000 Fox 5, Good Day New York, first on the scene.

00:31:54.000 We saw as officers attempted to give this man CPR, those desperate moments.

00:31:59.000 But again, this victim, the man who was shot in the chest, has died.

00:32:03.000 This all happened about 6.45 in the morning outside of the Hilton Hotel area.

00:32:07.000 Right off 6th Avenue, the suspect described as a six-foot-tall man with a slim build, possibly wearing a cream-colored jacket, black gloves.

00:32:16.000 He took off northbound on 6th Avenue.

00:32:19.000 People who witnessed this situation, there were actually two or three people who saw it.

00:32:23.000 They said that it appeared that the suspect...

00:32:25.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:32:26.000 I pulled up the old one.

00:32:27.000 My bad.

00:32:27.000 This is from yesterday.

00:32:28.000 The message actually ended up getting released, and that was the...

00:32:32.000 Let me pull up the...

00:32:36.000 Story here.

00:32:37.000 That's my bad.

00:32:38.000 Let's see.

00:32:39.000 Here we go.

00:32:41.000 I thought I had the right tweet pulled up.

00:32:42.000 That's my bad.

00:32:43.000 Here we go.

00:32:43.000 The message that was scrawled on it was, Deny, Depose, and Defend, engraved on live rounds and shell casings.

00:32:51.000 And this appears to be an allusion to the book, Delay, Deny, Defend.

00:32:58.000 Subtitled, Why Insurance Companies Don't Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It.

00:33:03.000 Police are looking at possible ties to the book as well as more general references to the health industry as a potential motive.

00:33:09.000 I gotta be honest.

00:33:11.000 Could it be, there's two ways to look at it, depose, deny, defend could be after litigation, deposition, this person was basically advancing delay, deny, defend because he went through something personally or a loved one did?

00:33:29.000 Or is this intentionally trying to mislead people and he actually got the name of the book wrong when he scrawled the message on the bullets?

00:33:39.000 Because he doesn't actually know what the book is.

00:33:40.000 It's just so on the nose.

00:33:41.000 I don't know.

00:33:42.000 But it's too early to tell.

00:33:44.000 But he was under investigation.

00:33:47.000 And so when people find out about that and they see the shell casings with the words, everyone's going to be like, well, that makes sense.

00:33:53.000 But there was so much going on in his personal life and in his business life, it's impossible to know what's going on.

00:34:00.000 I mean, I suppose it's possible that it was, you know, to, you know, to dis, what's it called?

00:34:07.000 To, you know, get the attention off of what the actual motive was.

00:34:12.000 Deflect, there you go.

00:34:13.000 But, I mean, usually, I would still consider, like, the fact that it was written on the casings as a lead to follow.

00:34:22.000 Oh, you still got to follow it.

00:34:24.000 I just, my gut is saying it's not real.

00:34:27.000 Yeah.

00:34:28.000 You know, but I don't know.

00:34:30.000 Anything is possible.

00:34:31.000 And I also want to say, I don't think he's the assassin CIA. I'm just saying that he's using possible CIA tactics, you know, as a professional hitman.

00:34:40.000 Yeah.

00:34:40.000 Allegedly to go about escaping.

00:34:43.000 He didn't look like when you watch the video of him doing the actual shoot, he didn't look like he was scared.

00:34:48.000 And if it was like a first time kind of thing or if it was like his kid was the reason that he was doing it, like kid got denied or his wife got denied.

00:34:57.000 You'd think that there would be emotion in what he's doing. 0.60

00:34:59.000 Maybe he'd shoot him and yell at him or say something. 0.74

00:35:01.000 And it was very much like bop bop. 0.97

00:35:03.000 It didn't look like there was any overkill or anything like that.

00:35:06.000 He did what he needed to do and left.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, cold, calculated, and he bounced.

00:35:11.000 Not that I know if it was, you know, not like I'm saying that I know.

00:35:14.000 I just watch a lot of Criminal Minds.

00:35:16.000 You're an expert.

00:35:17.000 Yeah.

00:35:17.000 I mean, that's all it takes these days, right?

00:35:19.000 For sure.

00:35:20.000 It does make sense.

00:35:21.000 If he's not super nervous and he's not fumbling with stuff, he shot the guy, he knew that the gun wasn't going to cycle because as soon as he shot, he didn't do...

00:35:33.000 When I'm shooting, if I shoot and something goes wrong, the first thing I do is tap rack.

00:35:37.000 But he knew that it wasn't going to be tap.

00:35:40.000 He knew just to go to right to rack it.

00:35:42.000 And having it written on that live casing, knowing that he was going to eject it.

00:35:46.000 It looks like they were steel casings.

00:35:51.000 It could be.

00:35:52.000 It kind of looks like it.

00:35:53.000 Right?

00:35:53.000 Yeah, I mean, they do look like they're a chrome color or whatever, as opposed to a brass color.

00:35:59.000 But I mean, again, I don't know, because I'm not an expert and I wasn't there, obviously, but it doesn't seem like he was nervy.

00:36:09.000 The fact that he hasn't been caught yet either means he took his own life or he's completely vanished.

00:36:15.000 You know, like there was instances from back home up in New York where similar things happened, not to this degree, but a shooting.

00:36:22.000 Someone left.

00:36:23.000 They weren't found for a few days and they found the body, you know, floating down the Hudson River or something.

00:36:27.000 So that could be that.

00:36:28.000 Or people would be like, well, this could end with a death by cop situation if it was maybe less of a professional, right, who got caught quickly.

00:36:37.000 But I don't know.

00:36:38.000 It doesn't seem that way.

00:36:39.000 To do it that early morning in New York City, outside the Hilton, which I know that area, that's brazen.

00:36:47.000 Yeah, and it was well planned, too.

00:36:50.000 But his schedule was very open.

00:36:53.000 Everyone knew where this guy would be for a conference, so anyone could have access to it, which would lean to anyone knowing where he was.

00:36:58.000 We do have some other updates as well.

00:37:00.000 The police stormed a train, the Long Island Rail.

00:37:05.000 An accident said they were on the 5.30 p.m.

00:37:08.000 LIRR train to Seaford when the train was swarmed by cops.

00:37:12.000 Officials maintain that although the train tip failed to find the killer, the NYPD welcomed the wave of tips it's receiving and is offering a $10,000 reward.

00:37:20.000 It's helping, they added.

00:37:22.000 We are following up on every single tip that's come in.

00:37:24.000 Any tip could be the missing piece of the puzzle that ties everything together.

00:37:27.000 I don't think they'll find the guy.

00:37:29.000 I don't think so.

00:37:31.000 Whoa, look at this.

00:37:31.000 Detectives believe phone left at the scene may not be a burner.

00:37:34.000 Oh, really?

00:37:35.000 Yeah, they're saying it might be his real phone.

00:37:37.000 Wow.

00:37:37.000 Well, that would be a huge mistake.

00:37:38.000 No, it just doesn't add up.

00:37:41.000 That doesn't seem to track with everything else.

00:37:43.000 If you're a pro, I mean, come on, dude.

00:37:46.000 The pro IDs somebody who looks like him at a bar, snatches it.

00:37:52.000 Leaves it at the scene, scribbles something on the bullets, and it keeps the scent off of you.

00:37:59.000 Just based on how well everything else was organized, to leave behind a phone seems very out of character for this guy.

00:38:05.000 Yeah.

00:38:06.000 It does seem very well planned, and not just very well planned, but very well executed.

00:38:11.000 I will mention this, too, because a lot of people have pointed out that the weapon was malfunctioning.

00:38:16.000 Some said, no, he's manually cycling the weapon because he's using subsonic rounds so that it's quieter.

00:38:22.000 Then others said, no, you can look.

00:38:23.000 It looks like it's malfunctioning.

00:38:25.000 I want to stress, and I think most gun people know this, The average person experiencing a malfunction doesn't know what's happening.

00:38:30.000 For him to fire and then quickly cycle the weapon means he understands what a malfunction is.

00:38:36.000 Was it a World War II type remake or something?

00:38:40.000 I saw that in an article earlier.

00:38:41.000 Yeah, people were claiming that, but there's a bunch of gun tubers who are like, no, no, no, no. 0.51

00:38:45.000 Interesting.

00:38:45.000 Yeah, some of these guns where you have to manually cycle it.

00:38:48.000 They're sharing all these, like, they wrote entire articles on how it was a World War II gun, like, that was a clue.

00:38:52.000 Look, I own guns, but I'm not a gun expert by any means, and I've been to the range of a lot of people, and when there's a jam, they're clueless, and they're like, I don't understand what's happening, what do I do?

00:39:00.000 Or there's, like, four or five different things that it could be, and you go through a variety of steps before you finally get to the point where you cycle dry fire and make sure it's safe.

00:39:09.000 That's, like, the last thing that you do when you're dealing with a malfunction.

00:39:12.000 Did he only shoot three times?

00:39:14.000 I don't know.

00:39:15.000 Do we know that?

00:39:15.000 He was shot three times.

00:39:16.000 I don't know how many times he actually...

00:39:18.000 I would also say something, I think, to his expertise.

00:39:20.000 Yeah.

00:39:21.000 Because there were rounds on the ground that were not spent.

00:39:26.000 So there were actual bullets, and then there were some just casings.

00:39:29.000 Because the NYPD can't shoot in public.

00:39:31.000 They...

00:39:31.000 I mean...

00:39:32.000 Remember that story where the guy came out?

00:39:33.000 He was at his office building, and he went postal.

00:39:37.000 He came out, and the cops ran up and just fired wildly.

00:39:39.000 Didn't hit him, but hit seven random people.

00:39:41.000 Seven people, yeah.

00:39:43.000 I think that was outside of the Empire State Building.

00:39:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:47.000 And you know what I was told?

00:39:49.000 The cost of lawsuits the NYPD has to pay out for negligent discharge is less than the cost of training NYPD how to use their guns.

00:40:00.000 Unbelievable.

00:40:01.000 I mean, think about it.

00:40:01.000 You've got 30,000 or whatever cops who need to be trained times whatever the training is, and they're like, nah, we don't have that many shootings, and the lawsuits don't cost that much, so just whatever.

00:40:11.000 That's cost-benefit analysis.

00:40:12.000 It's like that scene from Fight Club where he's like on the plane, and Edward Norton's character, Jack, he's like...

00:40:18.000 If the cost of the lawsuits is less than the cost of the recall, we don't recall.

00:40:23.000 And so they know the cars will blow up and do whatever wild.

00:40:29.000 Meanwhile, New York City released their prisons at the beginning.

00:40:32.000 It's Gotham.

00:40:33.000 This is straight up Gotham.

00:40:35.000 And Taylor Lorenz is like a villain from Gotham. 1.00

00:40:38.000 Yeah.

00:40:38.000 Which one?

00:40:40.000 Which Batman rogues gallery icon?

00:40:43.000 She's like trans Joker. 1.00

00:40:43.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:40:44.000 It's hard to know.

00:40:45.000 Lady Joker? 0.78

00:40:46.000 Yeah, she's not Harley Quinn. 1.00

00:40:47.000 She's cooler.

00:40:49.000 I don't know.

00:40:50.000 I mean, she might be...

00:40:51.000 I understand people might get mad because they like the character of Harley Quinn, but that's probably the best analog. 0.89

00:40:57.000 She's just mentally unstable and dangerous. 1.00

00:41:00.000 Right.

00:41:00.000 She gets afraid if someone approaches her, but by all means, post pictures of people that you don't want to love.

00:41:04.000 No, that's not fair.

00:41:05.000 She's too old to be Harley Quinn. 0.97

00:41:07.000 Anyway, let's jump to this story from the Daily Wire.

00:41:11.000 David Hogg seriously considering running for top DNC job to fix party's condescending tone.

00:41:17.000 Many Republicans and conservatives laughed online at the prospect of seeing Hogg try to run the Democratic Party.

00:41:23.000 This is offensive, okay?

00:41:25.000 How dare you mock this intelligent and passionate young man who is trying to do what he must do to save the Democratic Party?

00:41:33.000 I, for one, second...

00:41:35.000 His nomination, or I nominate him.

00:41:37.000 I would love to see the DNC run by David Hogg.

00:41:41.000 Okay.

00:41:41.000 Well, I guess he wants to be vice chair.

00:41:43.000 So Politico reported that Hogg has told reporters he is seriously considering running for DNC vice chair.

00:41:48.000 The failed pillow salesman who has made the name for himself by aggressively calling...

00:41:52.000 Isn't that crazy, though?

00:41:53.000 He tried to sell pillows.

00:41:55.000 You remember that?

00:41:55.000 Yeah.

00:41:56.000 He was like the MyPillow guy who's doing such a good job that he tried to create a progressive pillow launch and it didn't work.

00:42:01.000 Was it OurPillow is what he called it?

00:42:03.000 No.

00:42:03.000 It was just Stones.

00:42:06.000 It was called Good Pillow.

00:42:08.000 Because my pillow's evil pillow, I guess, right?

00:42:11.000 Yeah, our pillow was the pillow that we made, which was a burlap sack full of packing peanuts. 0.98

00:42:16.000 And the idea was that the communist version of it sucked. 0.97

00:42:19.000 Anyway. 0.94

00:42:21.000 They say the failed pillow salesman who has made a name for himself by—we get it, we get it.

00:42:24.000 Well, honestly, I'm considering it because I think that, one, obviously, I think we need a new generation in the DNC. He's not wrong about that.

00:42:30.000 If this election has taught us nothing else, I think we need an intergenerational coalition as a party.

00:42:36.000 Look, let's be real.

00:42:37.000 They're not going to—bro, you're not going anywhere near the DNC. They're going to be like, yes, right this way, Mr. Hogg, and they're going to walk you down a dark corridor inside the building.

00:42:46.000 Then they're going to open a door with a bright light.

00:42:47.000 They're going to push you through, and it's a fire exit.

00:42:51.000 I think he should run for president.

00:42:52.000 I agree.

00:42:53.000 Well, AOC might.

00:42:55.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:42:56.000 That's true.

00:42:56.000 Yeah, he should run with her.

00:42:57.000 That's great.

00:42:58.000 AOC Hogg, 2028. That's a horrible videotape that no one should watch.

00:43:03.000 I don't even want to touch that one.

00:43:05.000 I mean, look, I would like to see the Democrat Party move away from the progressive end, right?

00:43:14.000 The Democrat Party move away from the far left end.

00:43:18.000 There was strong signals in this past election that the country wants to move back to the right a little bit, move away from things like defund the police, move away from things like open borders, move away from things like restorative justice.

00:43:36.000 These policies have negative consequences for Americans.

00:43:41.000 And that was kind of clear and made kind of clear in the election.

00:43:45.000 It would be cool if we didn't have the same crop of people with progressive ideas saying, hey, let's just do more of the same stuff that we've been rejected about.

00:43:57.000 Well, what's so wild about him saying that he wants to fix the DNC's condescension problem is anyone who's seen David Hogg's social media account know that he's one of the most condescending people on the Internet.

00:44:10.000 It's always projection.

00:44:12.000 Always.

00:44:13.000 Yeah, it's always projection, and it's bad for the country.

00:44:17.000 Again, the policies that the left prefers have been tested for at least the past five years, and they're producing results that Americans aren't happy with.

00:44:28.000 You look at what happened in California, and there were a bunch of recalls.

00:44:32.000 There was multiple recalls.

00:44:34.000 Jason Boudin was recalled.

00:44:35.000 There was another person that was recalled, another DA. Yeah.

00:44:37.000 Yeah, it wasn't San Francisco.

00:44:41.000 Maybe it was San Francisco where there was a DA and then there was another, maybe Oakland County, the DA also lost re-election.

00:44:47.000 And then there was a couple people that lost re-election and there were like 11 counties shifted red that were blue counties.

00:44:54.000 London Breed is who I was thinking of, the mayor.

00:44:56.000 Yes.

00:44:57.000 She lost.

00:44:57.000 And that's a big deal and that speaks to the tone of the country.

00:45:03.000 Even though the left would love to say, oh, there was no red wave and that Donald Trump, because he didn't get 50% of the vote, it wasn't a landslide, blah, blah, blah.

00:45:15.000 That's just semantic cope.

00:45:17.000 And also on the House numbers, if you look at the redistricting that happened, Republicans are basically capped at the amount of seats that they can win just based on the way the districts are drawn.

00:45:29.000 But if you look at the counties that flipped, the seats that they did win, they basically did max out, which, I mean, they hit the ceiling of the potential support that they can get in the House based on the way the districts are drawn right now.

00:45:40.000 Is the Democratic Party, can they not reject the tone of the American people?

00:45:47.000 Cenk was here just a couple days ago, and he was actually calling for moderation.

00:45:51.000 That's true.

00:45:52.000 Yeah.

00:45:53.000 There's definitely pockets of it.

00:45:54.000 But when I watch the corporate press, they seem to not learn their lesson.

00:45:58.000 Look, Cenk got the memo.

00:46:01.000 But to be fair...

00:46:03.000 Well, I'm not going to pretend like he's been a saint the whole time or he's come around like, look, Dave Rubin was on this train a long time ago, recognizing the left was losing their minds.

00:46:12.000 And they ragged on him for it.

00:46:14.000 But over the past year, it is true that Cenk was screaming, Biden can't win.

00:46:18.000 They're lying.

00:46:19.000 This is nuts. 1.00

00:46:20.000 He was admitting Biden is crazy and old. 1.00

00:46:23.000 But he got the memo. 0.99

00:46:24.000 That's called the popular mandate.

00:46:25.000 And he's probably sitting here being like, we're on the wrong side of this one.

00:46:29.000 The people are fed up.

00:46:30.000 Even Bill Maher just recently came out saying, we need the disruptors.

00:46:34.000 They're getting the memo.

00:46:35.000 The corporate press, they don't read the news.

00:46:38.000 Like, Bill Maher's on the line.

00:46:39.000 Like, my issue with Bill Maher is that he doesn't read.

00:46:42.000 Whoopi Goldberg doesn't read.

00:46:44.000 So on The View, you have this great bit.

00:46:46.000 Actually, we can pull this up in a second, where Charlemagne the God is like, Joe Biden lied about pardoning his son and Whoopi's like, no, maybe he just changed his mind.

00:46:55.000 And it's like, did you guys read the initial reporting on this from NBC that said Biden had been planning this the whole time?

00:47:03.000 They don't read the news.

00:47:05.000 But Cenk sees the writing on the wall and he's thinking...

00:47:08.000 We need to figure out where our victories are going to be because we lost the popular vote on this one.

00:47:14.000 This ain't it.

00:47:15.000 And so he recently tweeted that he's actually backing a Republican, that he's throwing his support behind a Republican who's got some populist plans that he agrees with and says, let's go for it.

00:47:24.000 Because if the left populist and the right populist can get victories where they agree, just take them.

00:47:29.000 There you go.

00:47:30.000 So do the Democrats fracture now?

00:47:32.000 Oh yeah.

00:47:33.000 I can't see the party coalescing around that.

00:47:35.000 That's why David Hogg wants to run for the DNC. He's like, it's weak.

00:47:39.000 Now's my chance.

00:47:40.000 Because in like no sane reality could this kid, I know he's an adult man, but let's be real.

00:47:46.000 There's no reality where this person is going to get a top position in the Democratic Party.

00:47:51.000 Unless the Democratic Party is done. 0.78

00:47:54.000 It is a withered husk.

00:47:57.000 The donors have fled.

00:47:58.000 They're pissed.

00:47:59.000 Right.

00:47:59.000 Now's his chance.

00:48:00.000 Yeah, he'll start one.

00:48:01.000 Beto O'Rourke would probably be on board with them, you know, because they seem similar to me.

00:48:06.000 Yeah.

00:48:06.000 Ultra-feminine.

00:48:07.000 Lanky, low-T guys. 1.00

00:48:09.000 Losers, yeah. 0.97

00:48:09.000 I mean, one of the problems, though, with the Democrats potentially fracturing is that, I mean, this did happen to the Republican Party in a lot of ways when Trump became the nominee in 2015, where they were forced, really, to listen to their grassroots activists for the first time in a long time. 0.97

00:48:26.000 But that was a very organic movement.

00:48:28.000 I don't see the same kind of groundswell on the left to be more normal.

00:48:33.000 Instead, you actually have the vocal minority of the progressives getting increasingly angry at a party that they feel isn't crazy enough.

00:48:41.000 And the Democrats who have all of the money and political power try to placate them by running candidates or adopting policies that are in line with that, as opposed to moving towards the more moderate sort of blue dog Democrat position.

00:48:53.000 I would love to see more blue dog Democrats being held up as. 0.81

00:48:58.000 Yeah, they're basically extinct at this point.

00:49:00.000 Yeah.

00:49:00.000 You can't even be a pro-life Democrat anymore.

00:49:03.000 Who was it in Montana?

00:49:04.000 Was it Tester?

00:49:05.000 Was he like basically the last one?

00:49:08.000 More or less, but I mean, but he's not exactly moderate either.

00:49:12.000 Right.

00:49:13.000 And Manchin was considered...

00:49:14.000 But these were considered to be 10, 15 years ago.

00:49:16.000 Right.

00:49:17.000 And now it's just like, dude, you guys are Democrats.

00:49:19.000 Get out of here.

00:49:20.000 Mm-hmm.

00:49:21.000 The Republican Party absorbed a lot of their liberals.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, they effectively kicked out.

00:49:25.000 They got Tulsi now, they got RFK Jr. That's why I've been saying, like, I don't see how the Democratic Party can recover.

00:49:31.000 Because they kicked the moderates out.

00:49:36.000 They kicked us out.

00:49:37.000 Dude, like Joe Rogan, okay, was a Bernie bro who ragged on Trump incessantly.

00:49:44.000 They kicked him out.

00:49:45.000 They screamed in his face.

00:49:46.000 They made his picture look green on CNN. And he's gone.

00:49:50.000 He's not coming back.

00:49:51.000 Why would he go back?

00:49:54.000 I mean, look, the Republicans had a similar thing happen after it became clear that there was no yellow cake uranium in Iraq and that the pretenses for the war in Iraq were BS. And the Republicans were like, wait a minute, this is not what the Republican Party is supposed to be.

00:50:16.000 And they lost a lot of people.

00:50:18.000 The Ron Paul revolution was mostly Republicans that said, I don't want to be involved with the warmonger party.

00:50:27.000 And there's a lot of people left and a lot of reshaping, and it ended up with Donald Trump coming and kind of taking the reins of that.

00:50:37.000 And whereas he's probably more establishment than a lot of the libertarians would like, he's still a far cry from Mitt Romney and Dick Cheney.

00:50:47.000 So now it's time for the Democrats to kind of be lost in the wilderness for a bit and hopefully the reasonable moderate Democrats will find their way back.

00:51:00.000 I should run for DNC chair.

00:51:03.000 Why not?

00:51:04.000 No, I'm not going anywhere near any of that stuff ever.

00:51:06.000 I mean, when we're talking about this difference, though, between Trump's takeover of the GOP and then the Democrats, Trump has made very clear that he is interested in having people around him who don't agree with him on every single thing, right?

00:51:19.000 That's why he's willing to partner with people like Tulsi Gabbard and RFK. But on the Democratic side, you have complete and total ideological purity that is required of everyone who gets elevated to one of these leadership positions So they're not really able to have the necessary debates that they need to have in order to create a healthier party that actually represents the people.

00:51:39.000 They don't even like debates.

00:51:41.000 No.

00:51:42.000 Right.

00:51:42.000 They shut them down.

00:51:43.000 Oh, did you guys see what's-her-face from Call Her Daddy?

00:51:46.000 She was speaking at an event with the New York Times or whatever and was just ragging on Kamala. 1.00

00:51:50.000 Really?

00:51:51.000 Yeah, she's saying they spent $100,000 to build this weird set that looks nothing like her set far away.

00:51:55.000 She's like, how do you even spend that kind of money on this?

00:51:57.000 It's just all fake.

00:51:59.000 Pre-planned, organized, with staffers standing by.

00:52:02.000 And no one cared.

00:52:03.000 No one cared.

00:52:04.000 The country rejected it all.

00:52:06.000 Oprah, all of it.

00:52:08.000 It's amazing.

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 Well, let's do this.

00:52:13.000 Let's jump to...

00:52:14.000 What do we have here?

00:52:16.000 Ahoktua.

00:52:17.000 Ahoktua.

00:52:18.000 Here we go.

00:52:19.000 I mean, we could talk about—we'll save the Whoopi Goldberg thing for a second, but I want to talk about Hawk Tua.

00:52:22.000 So we have this story from Vulture.

00:52:23.000 Hawk Tua, insider trade on that thing.

00:52:27.000 Andy Warhol once said, in the future, everybody will be famous for a few months, and in that time, they will be accused of insider trading when their meme coin flops.

00:52:35.000 I can respect the attempt, Jason Frank, for Vulture, but I think mine was better. 0.97

00:52:39.000 This morning I said the making a random comment about sucking dick to committing securities fraud prison pipeline. 0.98

00:52:48.000 That was my take on this thing. 0.98

00:52:49.000 So for those that don't know, she launched a cryptocurrency, and within a few minutes, tons of people who had access to the coin who never bought it dumped it and ripped off all the fans that bought in.

00:53:01.000 And so it's looking now like Hawk Tua is facing some...

00:53:06.000 This looks like it's criminal.

00:53:08.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:53:09.000 I'm not an expert.

00:53:09.000 I'm not accusing everybody of doing anything wrong.

00:53:10.000 I don't know.

00:53:11.000 But there is now...

00:53:14.000 Here's the story, basically.

00:53:15.000 Let me see if I can get the update.

00:53:18.000 A law firm is now advertising over the Hawk to a pump and dump.

00:53:23.000 This is Berwick Law.

00:53:25.000 They said if you lost money on Hawk, contact our firm to learn about your legal rights.

00:53:29.000 Our firm represents thousands of NFT and token investors in securities matters.

00:53:32.000 This is attorney advertising.

00:53:34.000 They even have the legal disclaimer.

00:53:36.000 So we have this post that this is Voidzilla, a.k.a.

00:53:41.000 Coffeezilla, and he's got this great video up on YouTube, put up two hours ago, where he's talking about what happened with Hawk Tua's coin basically ripping people off.

00:53:50.000 They said this, 285 investors joined her presale.

00:53:56.000 So actually, let me jump back and I'll play a sampling of his video.

00:53:59.000 You can hear it straight from him.

00:54:00.000 And then I recommend you watch his full video.

00:54:02.000 Into this pre-sale, they say they got in at $16.69 million total valuation, which means that if they sold out the whole 17%, you're looking at about $2.8 million raised by pre-selling these tokens.

00:54:18.000 So it is essentially a lie to say her team didn't sell tokens.

00:54:22.000 Well, they pre-sold them, and then those investors dumped on your fans.

00:54:28.000 That's the problem.

00:54:29.000 Because Bubble Map says, we found 285 investors joined the Hawk pre-sale.

00:54:33.000 That's about what I saw as well.

00:54:35.000 89 wallets sold 100% on launch.

00:54:38.000 47 sold over 50%.

00:54:40.000 Anyway, you can see in total, $3.3 million were sold.

00:54:45.000 So basically, Hawk Tua says, we didn't sell any of these coins, but had pre-sold them, that's what they're claiming, to investors, quote-unquote investors, and then 89 of them dumped everything they got, and there's this huge transaction record of people getting four, like three, one's got 300 grand, one's got like a million, and then a bunch of them have like $40,000, and now people are saying she's going to talk to a judge.

00:55:10.000 Well, I mean, it's probably smart for her to go talk to a judge because she's going to have to... 1.00

00:55:14.000 No, talk to a lawyer.

00:55:15.000 Well, yeah, I mean, she probably should talk to a lawyer. 0.94

00:55:18.000 But, I mean, if she goes to...

00:55:21.000 I mean, yeah, I guess I imagine she probably should talk to a lawyer first because anything that she says is going to just incriminate herself. 1.00

00:55:28.000 She's just tweeting about it, right?

00:55:30.000 She's just tweeting about it.

00:55:31.000 I don't think she's even taking this too seriously.

00:55:35.000 You know, I was talking about this earlier, and I think she must be hurting.

00:55:41.000 I think she's probably not making a lot of money. 0.96

00:55:43.000 They gave her a podcast recently.

00:55:45.000 But how much money is she really making off of it? 1.00

00:55:47.000 And how many views is she probably getting?

00:55:51.000 Podcasting is one of the only, if not the only, media medium that does not disclose its ratings.

00:55:59.000 That is the weirdest thing to me, why they don't do that.

00:56:03.000 YouTube puts it front and center on the video, and people can see if the video did well or not.

00:56:07.000 Cable TV ratings are published weekly.

00:56:09.000 You can look up and see that MSNBC is failing.

00:56:12.000 Podcasts don't do this.

00:56:13.000 I'd be willing to bet nobody listens to her, because what would they listen to her for?

00:56:16.000 Like, come on, man.

00:56:18.000 Look, with all due respect...

00:56:20.000 It's great that she made a million dollars or whatever because she made a comment about blowing dudes or whatever. 1.00

00:56:25.000 But that's it.

00:56:26.000 She's got nothing left. 0.97

00:56:27.000 So my view is, and I could be wrong, I don't know.

00:56:30.000 She's probably hurting.

00:56:32.000 And if she was dealing with mainstream typical success, she wouldn't resort to this weird crypto scheme, whatever you want to call it, to make money.

00:56:45.000 And reportedly, according to the people online, they're saying that she got over a million bucks.

00:56:49.000 Right off the bat.

00:56:50.000 We were talking about this the other night, though.

00:56:51.000 Like, you get that thing that goes viral, but you have to have something of value that people actually are interested in if you expect to actually capitalize on the viral post or whatever.

00:57:05.000 Otherwise, it's like...

00:57:06.000 Tiffany Gomez just posted feet pics after she went viral.

00:57:09.000 Did she actually post feet pics?

00:57:11.000 I mean, yeah.

00:57:12.000 She was posting those weird pics of her in her fake kitchen.

00:57:14.000 Everything about her is fake.

00:57:15.000 She's gone.

00:57:17.000 Pfft.

00:57:17.000 Who knows?

00:57:18.000 I mean, I'd imagine Huck 2 was making more money than she made before, for sure. 0.95

00:57:22.000 But it's going to be painful for a lot of these people, and not just her, but anybody, when...

00:57:28.000 Look, you're a regular person.

00:57:29.000 Next thing you know, you're on the news everywhere.

00:57:32.000 Everybody knows your name.

00:57:34.000 And you've got to figure out what you're going to do to maintain that.

00:57:37.000 So she didn't.

00:57:40.000 So it's only been a few months.

00:57:42.000 And now Vulture is writing that she may be involved in insider trading fraud and She says that she died.

00:57:49.000 Any insiders were given access to her coin.

00:57:51.000 A team hasn't sold one token.

00:57:53.000 And that not one...

00:57:55.000 What is KOL? It's an opinion leader or something?

00:57:58.000 Was given one free token.

00:58:00.000 She posted an X. But as people are pointing out, yeah, it's because she pre-sold them before the launch.

00:58:06.000 So they didn't sell them.

00:58:08.000 They pre-sold them.

00:58:10.000 This is just...

00:58:11.000 Look...

00:58:12.000 Your life is normal.

00:58:14.000 You have little money.

00:58:16.000 Overnight, you have a million bucks. 1.00

00:58:17.000 You spend it on stupid things. 1.00

00:58:19.000 This is what people tend to do. 1.00

00:58:20.000 Then you're looking at your account and you're like, I need more of this.

00:58:22.000 I need more of this.

00:58:23.000 But you're not going to get it.

00:58:25.000 You had your moment talking about blowing dudes or whatever.

00:58:29.000 The thing that's weird also is that she's claimed to be upset with the guy who posted the video that got her famous.

00:58:35.000 And then she's on podcasts complaining about being famous, but she's doing the show still, right?

00:58:42.000 She's like, I didn't want this, but here I am traveling all these podcasts.

00:58:46.000 That's all weird to me.

00:58:48.000 I listened to a little bit of one of her first podcasts that she posted, which was just the aftermath of finding out that she had gone viral.

00:58:55.000 And it was actually really sad in a way and kind of tragic because she had to explain to her parents why she went viral.

00:59:04.000 And when I saw this video, and everyone was so excited about it, they thought it was so funny, I just thought, this girl's parents must be so horrified that this is the daughter that they raised and this is what she's out doing on the town with her friends.

00:59:18.000 I don't know.

00:59:19.000 I find the whole thing to be quite sad.

00:59:21.000 I knew a guy and he had a viral moment where overnight he was on the news everywhere.

00:59:30.000 And this is a while ago.

00:59:31.000 It was like 10 years or longer.

00:59:32.000 And I said to him, he was getting requests.

00:59:35.000 His email was blowing up.

00:59:36.000 It had been like two or three weeks where he was on all of these programs.

00:59:40.000 And he went from being some dude working in a small Brooklyn restaurant or something, washing dishes, to all of a sudden, people are paying him speaking fees.

00:59:54.000 He's got money.

00:59:55.000 His clothes were clean and he was looking great.

00:59:57.000 And I asked him, What's your plan, dude?

01:00:02.000 What are you going to do?

01:00:03.000 What represents what and who you are and where do you go from here?

01:00:06.000 I'm not worried about it.

01:00:07.000 I'm fine.

01:00:08.000 And then I was like, listen, this month you have this viral moment and they're hitting you up.

01:00:13.000 What are you going to do to make sure their interest comes back next month when the news cycle changes?

01:00:18.000 He's like, nah, you don't get it, man.

01:00:21.000 We're working on these things and we figured it out.

01:00:24.000 Guess what he was doing a month later?

01:00:25.000 Back to zero.

01:00:26.000 No one's heard from him since.

01:00:28.000 Going viral is like the new winning the lottery.

01:00:30.000 You know how they say when you win the lottery, it just comes with a lot of horrible consequences.

01:00:36.000 But winning the lottery always did too.

01:00:37.000 People don't get it.

01:00:38.000 Yeah, right.

01:00:40.000 There's like those documentaries about how winning the lottery ruined people's lives.

01:00:43.000 And everyone goes like, how is that possible that it ruined your life?

01:00:45.000 That makes no sense.

01:00:47.000 And it's like, people don't...

01:00:49.000 Let me just say one thing.

01:00:51.000 You can't just give someone money.

01:00:53.000 The IRS doesn't allow it.

01:00:55.000 That's the craziest thing.

01:00:56.000 Like, obviously you can hand someone a $100 bill, but there's limits on how much you can give people before you get taxed on those things and then dramatically reduces the amount you can give to people.

01:01:06.000 So it's not as simple to say, like, I'd like to buy my friend a car.

01:01:09.000 Nope.

01:01:09.000 When Oprah gave everybody cars, they got massive tax burdens from it.

01:01:13.000 And that was a huge, huge fiasco back in the day.

01:01:14.000 And everyone just sold the cars and then it'd pay taxes on it.

01:01:17.000 So winning the lottery would be great.

01:01:20.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:01:20.000 But the average person all of a sudden wakes up one day with 10,000 new problems they didn't know existed.

01:01:26.000 And they're just like, I don't even know what to do with the money.

01:01:28.000 Because you can't just spend.

01:01:32.000 Like if you want $100 million, you can't just spend $100 million.

01:01:36.000 When you have $1,000, you get your paycheck.

01:01:39.000 You can go to the grocery store.

01:01:40.000 Money's gone.

01:01:41.000 You have food.

01:01:42.000 You can fix your light.

01:01:43.000 You can fix your window.

01:01:44.000 Money's gone.

01:01:45.000 You can get a car repaired.

01:01:46.000 Money's gone.

01:01:47.000 You can hire someone to come and clean your house.

01:01:49.000 Finally, money's gone.

01:01:50.000 But when you have $100 million, okay, so you spent $10,000 in one week doing all of these things.

01:01:55.000 Your fridge is stocked.

01:01:56.000 You got brand new clothing.

01:01:58.000 Your car's fixed.

01:01:59.000 Everything's up to order.

01:02:00.000 Now what do you do with the other $99,999,000?

01:02:04.000 You could invest in meme coin.

01:02:07.000 From the hawk two-year-old.

01:02:08.000 Well, you got to put the money somewhere.

01:02:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:09.000 There's also the problem with what it does to your relationships and your family.

01:02:12.000 I mean, if you've ever had someone in your family pass away and they had, you know, a significant chunk of change that they had after they died, like, families get absolutely insane in that process of divvying up the assets and the reading of the will and all of that.

01:02:26.000 I mean, if you throw in a $100 million lottery win, that's only magnified to the nth degree.

01:02:31.000 I mean, your life is literally never the same.

01:02:34.000 And like you said, it's not all...

01:02:36.000 Positive.

01:02:37.000 There's a lot of drawbacks.

01:02:38.000 You hear a lot about the families turning on the people.

01:02:40.000 It's publicized.

01:02:41.000 People know.

01:02:42.000 The gas station promotes it.

01:02:43.000 Everyone knows.

01:02:44.000 And then you wake up all these issues.

01:02:46.000 Still sounds nice.

01:02:48.000 What's Polymarket giving us that she goes to prison? 0.78

01:02:50.000 Do they have it?

01:02:52.000 Oh, geez.

01:02:53.000 None of us really think that she had any idea what was going on, right?

01:02:57.000 Ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law.

01:02:59.000 No, I'm not saying that at all.

01:03:01.000 What if she's an evil genius and we don't know?

01:03:03.000 I'm definitely not saying that she deserves a free pass because she didn't know.

01:03:06.000 I'm just throwing out there that she doesn't seem right enough to really understand that she was committing fraud.

01:03:12.000 Wait, they actually have it?

01:03:14.000 Yeah.

01:03:15.000 Hayley Welch in jail in 2024. No! 0.93

01:03:18.000 What?

01:03:19.000 Want me to send the link?

01:03:21.000 Is there one for how long until we find out it's a money laundering scheme for the DNC? Oh, what?

01:03:25.000 I was joking!

01:03:27.000 3%?

01:03:29.000 That's this year, though.

01:03:30.000 That's lower than I would have thought.

01:03:31.000 Well, that's 2024, maybe 2025. Oh, but look, look, look, yeah.

01:03:34.000 It was at five?

01:03:35.000 Okay.

01:03:35.000 Is that what you found, too?

01:03:37.000 It's only 3%?

01:03:37.000 Yeah, that's what I got.

01:03:38.000 That's a value bet.

01:03:39.000 I might buy it.

01:03:40.000 But it might be...

01:03:41.000 Yeah, we've only got...

01:03:43.000 We've got less than a month.

01:03:44.000 Yeah.

01:03:45.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey!

01:03:46.000 It says jail! 1.00

01:03:49.000 Yo, are you nuts? 1.00

01:03:50.000 That's a great wager. 1.00

01:03:52.000 Dude, she could jaywalk and go to jail. 1.00

01:03:54.000 Are you kidding me?

01:03:55.000 The average person has been to jail.

01:03:57.000 Jail is not prison.

01:03:59.000 That's true.

01:03:59.000 So they're basically saying that maybe she's speeding 30 miles off the limit so they arrest her?

01:04:04.000 Yo, that resolves.

01:04:06.000 Public intoxication.

01:04:07.000 There's nothing for 2025. Go to the drunk tank, Haley. 1.00

01:04:10.000 She's due for her Britney Spears moment. 0.69

01:04:12.000 Oh, it's only in 2024?

01:04:14.000 Haley, if you want to get out of your debt here, you could take a big...

01:04:18.000 You take a big bet that you're going to go to jail, and then just so happens that you get into a bar fight or something.

01:04:30.000 Wait a minute.

01:04:31.000 Is she allowed to wager on this?

01:04:32.000 I'm sure she knows someone.

01:04:34.000 Well, look, the cap is only $30,000, though, so $33,000 volume.

01:04:40.000 It's funny that Polymarket actually has it, though.

01:04:43.000 That's crazy.

01:04:43.000 And it launched because of this thing.

01:04:45.000 It just launched.

01:04:47.000 How much money do you owe, Haley?

01:04:49.000 Nah, but I don't...

01:04:51.000 Here's the issue.

01:04:52.000 If she gets arrested over this and she spends seven hours in jail, it resolves.

01:04:56.000 It's not a crazy ask.

01:04:58.000 No.

01:04:58.000 I'm not saying she's going to get convicted and go to prison.

01:05:00.000 I think if it does turn out to be...

01:05:02.000 I mean, this really does look like fraud.

01:05:05.000 I don't know.

01:05:05.000 I'm not an expert.

01:05:06.000 Again, I'm not accusing her of having done anything wrong.

01:05:09.000 But if she does go to court over this and it does turn out to be a criminal wrongdoing, they're not going to put her in prison.

01:05:16.000 They're gonna give her a slap on the wrist, tell her to pay back, pay restitution, and things like that. 1.00

01:05:21.000 All the corporate press having to define what Hawk to you means.

01:05:25.000 Prime time news.

01:05:26.000 I hate this world. 0.98

01:05:28.000 Hate it.

01:05:29.000 This is why we've never talked about it before, because it's just like, I don't care about this degree of stuff.

01:05:36.000 But I suppose when we have this story where it's like an internet personality of little and ill repute is now being accused of major securities fraud, I'm like, now there's an interesting story.

01:05:47.000 Because I really do, I was talking about this this morning with, do you guys remember Overly Attached Girlfriend?

01:05:52.000 Mm-hmm.

01:05:53.000 You know, props to her. 0.94

01:05:54.000 She was, I think, the first person who took being a meme and turned it into something to make money off of.

01:05:59.000 Because you had that stoned guy meme and you had the thumbs up guy meme and they were just memes and they had no idea what happened.

01:06:06.000 When she did the overly attached girlfriend thing, she leaned into it, made accounts, and then started using it to make money. 1.00

01:06:12.000 After, slowly, she started getting less and less traction and people paid attention less and less because she really didn't have a lot to offer other than she made a funny video this one time. 0.72

01:06:21.000 Well, she made a couple of them.

01:06:23.000 But she just drifted away and now she's got a ton of followers and she posts online when she does and she mostly just does it as a side thing.

01:06:29.000 And that's what happens.

01:06:32.000 I think we're going to see a lot of people who...

01:06:35.000 They're not going to want to let go of the golden goose.

01:06:38.000 They're going to fly too close to the sun.

01:06:39.000 They're going to reach up and they're going to say, I cannot lose this.

01:06:42.000 And they're going to commit crimes to make money.

01:06:45.000 I saw bumper stickers for this girl in Nashville. 0.97

01:06:49.000 I was shocked that they even sold them and that people bought them.

01:06:53.000 Could not believe it.

01:06:55.000 Wow.

01:06:56.000 There they were.

01:06:57.000 Well, let's stop talking about her and talk about this story from the Post Millennial.

01:07:00.000 Missouri could consider a plan to offer bounty for reporting illegal immigrants. 0.75

01:07:05.000 The legislation would create the Missouri Illegal Alien Certified Bounty Hunter Program, which would certify anyone licensed as a bail bond agent to be a bounty hunter to search for and detain illegal immigrants.

01:07:17.000 Yo, they're going to make a new dog the Illegal Immigrant Bounty Hunter Show. 0.98

01:07:22.000 Thankfully, they say only for reporting.

01:07:25.000 I don't like the idea.

01:07:27.000 It says detain.

01:07:29.000 Oh, well, that's a terrible idea.

01:07:31.000 Yeah, it says detain.

01:07:33.000 There's a lot of illegal immigrant gang members in the country right now where I don't want lay people running around trying to... 0.99

01:07:39.000 No, no, these are licensed bond agents.

01:07:41.000 So these are like...

01:07:43.000 Your bounty hunters who are armed and have teams and go out, they would have the ability to, I mean, this is kind of wild.

01:07:51.000 I mean, if it is, if they are like teams that go out and they try to detain the wrong illegal immigrants, it's going to turn into a big old gunfight.

01:08:00.000 Yeah, but you know what?

01:08:01.000 These guys are going to do their research.

01:08:02.000 Hopefully.

01:08:03.000 So bounty hunters know who they're going after and they know it can be dangerous.

01:08:06.000 So they're looking up a guy's name and this guy skipped his bail.

01:08:09.000 We're going to go find him and bring him back in and we're going to get his bond or a piece of it or whatever.

01:08:14.000 If they're going after an illegal immigrant or something, it's going to be a lot easier than that. 0.75

01:08:18.000 They're going to walk into an IHOP or something.

01:08:20.000 And I bring up IHOP. Don't get mad at me, IHOP, because a couple IHOPs out here by us recently got raided by immigration.

01:08:27.000 You saw that?

01:08:28.000 I saw the story, yeah.

01:08:29.000 It was crazy.

01:08:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:30.000 Because the owner was hiring illegal immigrant laborers and they got raided.

01:08:32.000 So they're just gonna- Who's gonna cook your pancakes now?

01:08:36.000 Oh, I got a liberal.

01:08:37.000 I got to pull up this tweet while we're on this story.

01:08:41.000 But it's even better than that.

01:08:44.000 I think Bethany Mandel had a really, really good tweet because she was mocking Matthew Iglesias because liberals are, you know, racist. 0.99

01:08:52.000 Let me see if I can.

01:08:54.000 I got it.

01:08:54.000 Here it is.

01:08:55.000 So Matthew Iglesias tweets Trumpflation killing me at Shake Shack and I don't think deporting the delivery guy is going to help.

01:09:03.000 And then he posted his receipt and Bethany Mandel said peak progressive virtue signaling is tipping your delivery driver 10%.

01:09:10.000 10% while assuming your driver is illegal and complaining that if he's deported, you can't keep paying him below a living wage.

01:09:16.000 Wow!

01:09:19.000 Anyway, these bounty hunters are going to be easier They're not going to go up to cartels.

01:09:26.000 They're going to walk into an IHOP and they're going to be like, licensed and bonded bounty hunters.

01:09:30.000 If that's how it's working, I'm all in.

01:09:33.000 This sounds great.

01:09:34.000 Let's do it.

01:09:35.000 Let's take some of the burden off of ICE, off of the National Guard, off of...

01:09:38.000 And then this would also help if you do this in states where they're not allowing local and state police to cooperate with ICE. That'd be a nice little privatization of the market.

01:09:48.000 It's just Missouri.

01:09:49.000 Right.

01:09:50.000 But you know what the left is going to say?

01:09:52.000 They're going to say that the right has created immigrant patrols to hunt down refugees and asylum seekers and put them in camps.

01:10:01.000 They're going to say that anyway.

01:10:02.000 Of course.

01:10:02.000 Yeah.

01:10:03.000 It doesn't matter who does it.

01:10:04.000 Right.

01:10:05.000 But they're going to hearken this to slave patrols.

01:10:07.000 They're going to say, this is how it starts.

01:10:09.000 Oh, geez.

01:10:09.000 Oh, no.

01:10:11.000 Then considering what we saw with that CEO... Well, one of my favorite pieces of rhetoric post-election was the Democrats saying that their Hispanic friends who voted for Donald Trump are not going to be laughing anymore when they get deported.

01:10:25.000 It's like, do you think all Hispanics are illegal?

01:10:28.000 That's the way they talk.

01:10:29.000 And also, did you just admit that illegal aliens voted in the election?

01:10:33.000 It's like a nice duper there. 1.00

01:10:35.000 So dumb. 1.00

01:10:37.000 I mean, you can't expect, like, coherent ideas out of people that engage in this kind of, you know, rhetoric and stuff, but it's real dumb, man. 1.00

01:10:48.000 It's real dumb. 0.99

01:10:49.000 That's why I don't see them changing anytime soon. 0.99

01:10:52.000 They're incapable of any, like, reflection.

01:10:56.000 They're always right.

01:10:58.000 Even if everyone voted against them, everyone else is wrong.

01:11:02.000 The media hasn't learned their lesson.

01:11:03.000 All their institutions are failing.

01:11:04.000 They'll continue to fail.

01:11:06.000 I don't know when it's going to happen, when they actually learn.

01:11:09.000 That's why I think there needs to be a change in the actual people that are in positions of authority, at least the Democrats in the Democrat Party, whether you call them on the left or not.

01:11:20.000 You don't think Pelosi's good or...

01:11:22.000 Pelosi...

01:11:24.000 She's really good at stock trading.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, right?

01:11:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:27.000 And her husband, great.

01:11:28.000 I think that Cenk was right that it really is the donors that kind of call the shots.

01:11:36.000 And I feel like the donors are the ones that kind of need to wake up and be like, all right, the progressives are hurting the Democrats.

01:11:41.000 But to the donors, they don't really care if it's Democrats or Republicans.

01:11:46.000 For so long, the Republicans were thought of as the party of big business, of the rich and stuff like that.

01:11:54.000 And in the past 15 years, that has entirely changed.

01:11:59.000 That kind of the meme of Democrats being the party of big money and big donors hasn't caught up yet.

01:12:07.000 But that's where it is right now.

01:12:09.000 So that's the truth right now.

01:12:11.000 So it's not like it matters to the donors.

01:12:16.000 They'll donate to whoever's going to be the ones that are going to protect their interests.

01:12:21.000 Well, and it's cyclical because the ones who are in power are going to be the ones who bring in the most donations.

01:12:27.000 Yeah.

01:12:28.000 That makes perfect sense.

01:12:29.000 So, I mean, I don't know if it's going to be immediate or in the next cycle or whatever, but I mean, I understand the people that are like, oh, you know, we want to get money out of politics.

01:12:44.000 I don't know that you do that without the kind of changes that Donald Trump has brought up and is trying to do.

01:12:54.000 Right.

01:12:55.000 But at the same time, there's a lot of money stacked against him doing it.

01:12:59.000 Right.

01:13:00.000 And the left would scream about being anti-corporate stuff, even in the past few years with Hillary or Biden.

01:13:06.000 Meanwhile, Wall Street was completely backing both those people.

01:13:09.000 Yep.

01:13:10.000 I mean, to the tune of a billion dollars.

01:13:13.000 Barack Obama spent a billion dollars.

01:13:16.000 He didn't get that just from grassroots funding.

01:13:19.000 He got that for big dinners that cost $50,000 a plate.

01:13:25.000 He got that from PACs donating.

01:13:27.000 Same thing with Hillary Clinton, a billion dollars. 1.00

01:13:30.000 Kamala Harris, a billion dollars.

01:13:32.000 I don't know what Joe Biden spent, but I'm sure that it was a lot of money.

01:13:37.000 So in 2016, 2020, and 2024, Donald Trump was outspent all three times.

01:13:44.000 He was the underdog when it came to the fiscal side of it.

01:13:49.000 And one of the big reasons why that money doesn't translate to votes for the Democrats besides the obvious policy issues is that Obama moved a lot of the party infrastructure and took it with him in regards to the data operation after he left office in 2016. And the DNC was left basically having to rebuild their entire operation without Obama's help.

01:14:13.000 The DNC, for example, does not really even do micro-targeting at this point.

01:14:18.000 They don't even really believe in it as a science.

01:14:20.000 The Republican Party micro-targeted the hell out of this election.

01:14:24.000 They get voters based on demographics.

01:14:27.000 Republicans get voters based on individuals and policies.

01:14:32.000 Yeah.

01:14:32.000 I mean, I want you to be right.

01:14:36.000 I want to believe that.

01:14:37.000 And I want to see conservatives have continued positive results at the ballot box because I do believe that the – I mean just look at the way that markets have reacted since Donald Trump has been elected and the – Foreign leaders?

01:14:52.000 Yeah.

01:14:53.000 And just anecdotally during the last election, I was getting text messages every three or four days from the Kamala campaign, from progressive activist groups asking me to go out and doorknock for Kamala Harris.

01:15:05.000 Why?

01:15:06.000 Because I'm a 30-year-old white woman living in northern Virginia.

01:15:10.000 Okay, pull up my voting history or like anything about me, the fact that I'm a faithful Catholic who attends mass weekly.

01:15:18.000 You would figure out pretty quick that I'm not going to knock doors for you.

01:15:21.000 Joe Biden is a Catholic.

01:15:22.000 You know what you do?

01:15:23.000 Devout Catholic. 0.78

01:15:24.000 Yeah, don't get me started on that.

01:15:27.000 When I get text messages from Democrats, I just want to talk for as long as possible about everything.

01:15:37.000 I'm a very interested voter, just wants to hear everything they have to say.

01:15:41.000 It'll take a long time, and in that time, you're probably not going to be able to talk to anybody else, but I'm listening.

01:15:46.000 I'm listening.

01:15:48.000 What companies are now putting up AI to intercept spam calls, and people are now not realizing they're talking to AI? It's so obvious.

01:15:58.000 We're not there yet, though.

01:15:59.000 Yeah.

01:16:00.000 I think for some people, like elderly people, they probably don't know yet, unfortunately.

01:16:04.000 That's crazy, man.

01:16:05.000 Yeah.

01:16:05.000 Dude, it's going to get so bad.

01:16:07.000 Like, the AI videos that are already coming out are already getting crazy.

01:16:10.000 It's not good.

01:16:11.000 Like, Danny Palachuk's AI videos are, I think, intentionally not that lifelike.

01:16:16.000 You can tell Trump's mouth's moving in the wrong way or whatever.

01:16:19.000 They're hilarious.

01:16:20.000 But these videos popping up where, like, Joe Biden was holding up a liquor store, they look like AI for now, but in a year, you're not going to know the difference.

01:16:28.000 Look how much it's changed in two years.

01:16:30.000 And haven't there been reports of elderly people getting phone calls with AI voices that sound like their family members?

01:16:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:16:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:38.000 No, no, no.

01:16:38.000 And then they say, like, help, I'm trapped and ain't money.

01:16:40.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:16:41.000 I'm really excited because I was talking to this one dude who works in tech and he was saying that within a year we can fully automate Timcast.

01:16:48.000 That's crazy.

01:16:49.000 Yeah, you literally just type in, you'll grab 10 different news stories that you want for the show, and you'll just drop them into a box and click Generate, and then it'll render the video, and then you're done.

01:17:00.000 Reject that.

01:17:01.000 Reject it, Tim.

01:17:02.000 And it's going to be funny because people will be watching, and it'll be seemingly normal until all of a sudden, like, Shane's on the ceiling, and then he's back in the chair again, and it's like...

01:17:10.000 Yeah.

01:17:11.000 How did we not catch that?

01:17:12.000 His hand has five fingers and a thumb.

01:17:15.000 By that point, though, it'll be perfect.

01:17:17.000 You know, the hands, that seems to be a thing of the past.

01:17:21.000 You'll turn into a lizard mid-show and then turn right back.

01:17:24.000 We knew it!

01:17:25.000 Have you seen those fake videos people make where it's like skinwalkers uncovered?

01:17:29.000 And it's like, it's an AI video, but it looks real, and it'll be like a woman standing there, and then she'll turn and turn, as she turns, she becomes a dog or whatever.

01:17:36.000 Yeah.

01:17:36.000 There's so many of those videos on Instagram, and they're creepy and weird.

01:17:40.000 It's a fun horror short, but there are going to be old people who believe this. 0.98

01:17:45.000 There will be young people eventually, too.

01:17:47.000 That's true.

01:17:47.000 I was talking to some dude who said that he has family members that are gone.

01:17:50.000 Yeah.

01:17:51.000 Gone.

01:17:51.000 Like, they watch these videos and they think they genuinely are lizard people who have taken over.

01:17:55.000 Well, no, that's true.

01:17:56.000 It's just don't believe the AI ones.

01:17:58.000 I do think that young people, though, have a harder time with internet reality versus fiction because...

01:18:05.000 When I was growing up, we had these classes at our library where we had to learn how to determine what was real on the internet and proper sources to use.

01:18:14.000 And apparently they just don't do any of that anymore.

01:18:16.000 They don't have computer labs anymore.

01:18:18.000 So if you talk to people who are employing Gen Z people, even older Gen Alpha people at this point, they literally do not know how to use computers.

01:18:26.000 They only know how to use phones.

01:18:28.000 They don't even know.

01:18:29.000 I had to teach my intern this summer, like Control-C, Control-V shortcuts for copy-paste.

01:18:34.000 It's actually quite scary.

01:18:36.000 They genuinely do not know anything beyond typing on their phone and watching TikTok.

01:18:42.000 What's it like with grammar and stuff?

01:18:44.000 Not good.

01:18:45.000 Really not good.

01:18:46.000 You don't think they teach it anymore?

01:18:48.000 I don't think they do teach fundamental grammar.

01:18:50.000 No.

01:18:51.000 I mean, just based on the resumes that I get in the writing samples when I'm hiring people and editing their work, it's rough.

01:18:58.000 Because it makes my job harder if people don't know how to write.

01:19:00.000 I think a lot of people don't care anymore about those basics, which is, you know, that's just an indictment of where society is.

01:19:06.000 Yeah.

01:19:07.000 Well, and certainly when we continually move towards more short-form content, it doesn't seem as important.

01:19:12.000 Yep.

01:19:13.000 Do you think that writing long-form stuff is going to be a skill that is going to be common in the future?

01:19:24.000 It's not common now.

01:19:25.000 Yeah.

01:19:26.000 Well, I mean, fair enough.

01:19:28.000 The popularity could come back, though.

01:19:30.000 I mean, going back to the AI hook, it is possible, and there are some websites that already do this where they give you the option to read the article out loud.

01:19:38.000 Yeah.

01:19:39.000 And that's the way a lot of people do consume long-form content.

01:19:41.000 If AI gets better at reading long-form articles to people and they can listen to it like a podcast, then maybe.

01:19:48.000 You know, the problem with long-form is the culture in media where...

01:19:54.000 They'll go to a journalist and say, we want, can you write us 10,000 words about the current war in Ukraine?

01:20:00.000 And they'll be like, yes.

01:20:02.000 And so the title will be like, the darkest hours of Ukraine, the forefront of the war and its current developments.

01:20:09.000 And I'll see a headline like that and I'll be like, oh wow, what's going on?

01:20:12.000 I'll click it.

01:20:12.000 And the first paragraph will be like, it was a dark night.

01:20:16.000 Grass was blowing at my feet and I looked up to the sky.

01:20:19.000 Wind.

01:20:20.000 A man approached me slowly and I looked him in the eyes and he said, Ukraine.

01:20:24.000 And that's what I knew.

01:20:25.000 And I'm like, what is this?

01:20:26.000 Where's the news?

01:20:27.000 I can't stand these news outlets that are like, the writers clearly didn't want to work in news but couldn't find a job anywhere else.

01:20:33.000 So instead of being like, in Ukraine right now, for the past several years, there's been an ongoing war in this region and that region.

01:20:38.000 And I'm like, tell me more.

01:20:40.000 It's like some dude writing a novel about his experience in I think, I mean, I'm biased because I'm the one who writes the novel articles that are a million words long, but I think people should have an appetite for the articles you want, the objective to straight up news, but also long form essays, which is why Substack's doing so well.

01:20:56.000 Yeah, I mean, if you like Tucker Carlson's old articles before he really became a television broadcaster, he is an incredible writer, highly recommend.

01:21:04.000 Like, we don't really have anybody that writes like that anymore.

01:21:09.000 And I would say the other problem with the long-form content is that you have people assigned to these type of essays, but they don't even actually go to the place that they're writing about.

01:21:17.000 Where should people go if they're actually interested in learning how to write like that?

01:21:22.000 Not school.

01:21:23.000 But Shane, Shane, the journalism school applications I get are the worst.

01:21:29.000 Don't go to journalism school, yes.

01:21:30.000 Yeah, you're saying you want to write like that.

01:21:33.000 But when you write like a gonzo piece about how you went to go meet with a Civil War historians who are telling the story and you say like, you know, I'm driving down this road and there's a man that's a story I totally understand. 0.92

01:21:48.000 Right.

01:21:48.000 But when the New York Times is supposed to be writing about like the current developments of the Biden pardon.

01:21:52.000 Yeah.

01:21:53.000 And it starts with being like the headline will be like Joe Biden issues pardon for son outrage in the beltway.

01:21:59.000 And it starts with like two paragraphs telling me a story about the current weather and mics.

01:22:03.000 And I was standing there before the Supreme Court and realized this country was in trouble. 0.93

01:22:07.000 And I'm like, shut up. 0.91

01:22:08.000 Just tell me what's going on. 0.98

01:22:09.000 Mainstream media is famous for bearing the lead.

01:22:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:22:12.000 And activists hijack long-form journalism.

01:22:16.000 BuzzFeed.

01:22:17.000 I made a lot of money on my BuzzFeed stock, so you don't despair.

01:22:20.000 Sorry, sorry.

01:22:20.000 But Vice did it.

01:22:21.000 And I wrote for Vice, too.

01:22:23.000 Very long articles.

01:22:24.000 But they got hijacked by activists who will try to write, you know, you want to get that information, but then they'll spend three paragraphs selling you on their identity and all this other stuff that they learned in their horrible journalism school, which I taught at for a while.

01:22:38.000 So I get that it's rotting from the inside.

01:22:41.000 Am I, am I, is there any regulation about me stating my current gains from BuzzFeed?

01:22:47.000 I don't know how, like, stock.

01:22:48.000 Ask the wrong person.

01:22:49.000 I don't, yeah, I don't know.

01:22:50.000 Let's ask, uh, Hayley Welch. 0.98

01:22:51.000 Call her.

01:22:52.000 Yeah.

01:22:52.000 Yeah, she seems to know.

01:22:54.000 Because, um, I bought a bunch of BuzzFeed stock when Vivek, like, so here's the story I bring up quite a bit.

01:22:59.000 Dope.

01:23:01.000 We watch the news all the time.

01:23:03.000 We read the news nonstop.

01:23:04.000 And so it's kind of wild that a story I learn about, the moment the story breaks, the minute it's published, then of course I'm going to try and fact check it to the best of my ability.

01:23:13.000 But usually we kind of just trust the media.

01:23:14.000 And that's a fact.

01:23:15.000 I mean, for better or for worse.

01:23:17.000 And then it's like people I know will hear about it a month later.

01:23:20.000 Mm-hmm.

01:23:20.000 So I started saying, like, why aren't I buying stocks?

01:23:23.000 Because, you know, we saw the Nancy Pelosi NVIDIA purchase.

01:23:26.000 Nancy Pelosi just bought a ton of NVIDIA. And I was like, that's funny.

01:23:29.000 That's going to skyrocket.

01:23:30.000 And then I didn't buy any.

01:23:31.000 And then it skyrocketed.

01:23:32.000 And people are going to say it's going to collapse and it did drop a bit.

01:23:35.000 But still.

01:23:36.000 So when Tesla tanked. 1.00

01:23:38.000 It dropped down from like 300 to like 113 or whatever because Elon was talking about buying Twitter.

01:23:44.000 I was like, okay, that's not real.

01:23:46.000 The stock is not going down because anything having to do with the company.

01:23:48.000 It's going down because of the PR around Elon and fears of what the CEO might do.

01:23:52.000 So I bought a bunch of Tesla.

01:23:55.000 Boy, am I happy.

01:23:56.000 So when Vivek announced he was buying BuzzFeed and having these meetings, I was like, okay, and then I just bought a bunch.

01:24:02.000 I don't talk to any of these people about it or anything like that.

01:24:04.000 I was like, I'll buy some.

01:24:06.000 And, I don't know, conflict of interest, I guess.

01:24:09.000 Just so everybody knows, I have BuzzFeed stock, but it's been going pretty well.

01:24:12.000 Since Vivek got involved, BuzzFeed stock's way up.

01:24:15.000 Let me see what the percentage is.

01:24:16.000 What is BuzzFeed doing right now?

01:24:18.000 I have no idea.

01:24:19.000 What did they put out?

01:24:20.000 125% return.

01:24:23.000 On listicles?

01:24:24.000 I guess.

01:24:25.000 What are they doing these days?

01:24:26.000 They did kill their news division a couple of years ago.

01:24:29.000 Yeah, that was hilarious.

01:24:30.000 What big story did they break?

01:24:32.000 They published a Steele dossier.

01:24:34.000 Steele dossier. 0.66

01:24:36.000 Scummy.

01:24:37.000 And then Smith got rewarded with a cushy job at the New York Times for it.

01:24:41.000 I want to give a shout out to a good friend, Ben Smith.

01:24:45.000 You know, when he apologizes for this, then maybe I'll stop saying it.

01:24:50.000 But there was a story a few years ago where, remember the Popeye's chicken sandwich came out?

01:24:54.000 And everybody wanted to get one?

01:24:56.000 So good.

01:24:56.000 BuzzFeed News ran a story, or BuzzFeed, whatever, I don't know which outlet it was, that a man was stabbed to death over a Popeye's chicken sandwich.

01:25:07.000 They wrote this story claiming that a guy went to Popeye's and was in line for a chicken sandwich and a fight broke out and he got stabbed to death and died.

01:25:14.000 And that's not the story at all.

01:25:15.000 The story was a guy at a Popeye's got stabbed to death, but it had nothing to do with a chicken sandwich.

01:25:22.000 This guy had gone to Popeye's and I guess someone had cut him in line.

01:25:26.000 And so he told the guy like, what are you doing, man?

01:25:29.000 You can't cut me in line.

01:25:30.000 It had nothing to do with a chicken sandwich.

01:25:31.000 And the guy said something like, let's take it outside.

01:25:33.000 And as soon as he went outside, the guy killed him.

01:25:35.000 His family was pissed.

01:25:37.000 They were like, this is a black man that BuzzFeed has, that the media is claiming, died over a chicken sandwich.

01:25:43.000 It's not true.

01:25:44.000 It was an issue of the violence we see in these communities where people feel disrespected.

01:25:50.000 And instead of...

01:25:51.000 Dealing with being, you know, cut in line or having someone be mad about it and just talking it out and letting someone order their food, this guy decided to murder our family member.

01:25:59.000 So I hit up BuzzFeed rather calmly, like, hey, Ben.

01:26:04.000 You guys ran the story claiming a black man was killed over a chicken sandwich.

01:26:07.000 I just wanted to know that's not true.

01:26:09.000 And he refused to correct it.

01:26:12.000 Because he didn't care.

01:26:15.000 I can't remember exactly what he said, but he said something like, it's true enough, or something to that effect.

01:26:19.000 And I'm like, this is the problem with these companies. 0.91

01:26:22.000 They don't give a crap if they're telling you the truth in context. 0.89

01:26:26.000 There's no problem for them to have written that story and then said, upon... 0.99

01:26:31.000 Further review, family members came out and said this was nothing to do with the chicken sandwich.

01:26:35.000 They could have even made a headline being like, racist outlets accused black men of dying over chicken sandwich.

01:26:39.000 They just wanted the story.

01:26:40.000 It was shocking, it was funny to them, and they did not care.

01:26:43.000 That's what's wrong with those organizations.

01:26:45.000 Yep.

01:26:46.000 And that's why they're failing.

01:26:47.000 Another example is when I worked at Fusion.

01:26:49.000 And Ghost in the Shell came out.

01:26:52.000 And they wanted to be angry that Scarlett Johansson was playing the major, who's supposed to be a Japanese woman.

01:26:59.000 And the fan base actually said, a premise of the show is that you can have a prosthetic body.

01:27:04.000 So in this movie, Ghost in the Shell, this person dies.

01:27:08.000 And then her consciousness is transported into a prosthetic body.

01:27:12.000 Because it's the future and your brain is cybernetic.

01:27:13.000 And they were like...

01:27:15.000 Well, but it's a white woman. 1.00

01:27:17.000 And I was like, yeah, but like part of the idea of the show is transcending identity.

01:27:21.000 Like there's literally a line in Ghost in the Shell where one of the guys asks the major why she prefers female bodies when you can choose any prosthetic body.

01:27:29.000 And I'm like, so this actually, it really does fit.

01:27:32.000 And they were like, yeah, but we're going to go ahead and write it anyway.

01:27:36.000 And I was like, I'm a fan of Ghost in the Shell and they don't care. 0.98

01:27:39.000 They just want to write the garbage and make the money.

01:27:42.000 Then when they issue a retraction, when they get things wrong, they make money off that too. 0.96

01:27:45.000 That's the secret.

01:27:46.000 If the New York Times writes fake news and gets a million views, and then they get threatened with a lawsuit, they retract it, the retraction is an article as well that makes money too.

01:27:54.000 Maybe not so much for the New York Times because they're mostly subscriber-driven, but for some of these outlets that run ads, they love it.

01:28:00.000 They'll be like, we'll get a million on the article that's fake, and then we'll get 50,000 on the retraction.

01:28:04.000 All of its views.

01:28:05.000 Yep.

01:28:06.000 They don't care.

01:28:07.000 It doesn't matter, just so long as people look at it.

01:28:11.000 I don't think people even read it, though.

01:28:13.000 It's like headlines.

01:28:14.000 People believe in the caricature of the headline.

01:28:15.000 But if they get the click, that's all that they care about.

01:28:19.000 The secret of the Huffington Post was that people just argued in the comments.

01:28:25.000 That's the secret.

01:28:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:26.000 So they, and then when having to post announced at one point they were going to get rid of their comment section, people were like, wow, because the sort of like, the insider journalism organization secret was everybody knew that was really driving page views was that people wanted to argue with, you know, conservatives and liberals were fighting with each other.

01:28:43.000 Was that something you think Breitbart was a part of with the comment stuff?

01:28:46.000 Or is that I don't know, but this is before Twitter. 0.99

01:28:48.000 So you're on the internet, Huffington Post emerges, it sounds official, they post an article, and there's comments where you can say, this is dumb, this politician should do this, and then you can respond and say, you're dumb. 0.99

01:28:59.000 Then we have Twitter. 0.97

01:29:01.000 Once Twitter came about, that became the internet's comment sections.

01:29:06.000 That is what Twitter really is.

01:29:10.000 It's the comment section for the whole internet.

01:29:12.000 For the collective consciousness.

01:29:13.000 Yeah, really.

01:29:14.000 I mean, it used to be people would say, oh, don't read the comments because they're always full of vitriol because angry people are the ones that generally comment.

01:29:22.000 And as soon as Twitter was created, it's like, okay, this is...

01:29:26.000 I love the comments.

01:29:27.000 Yeah, that's what it is.

01:29:28.000 Especially the angry ones.

01:29:29.000 I think they're hilarious.

01:29:30.000 I always read them.

01:29:31.000 I love them.

01:29:32.000 They make me happy.

01:29:32.000 I feel like you get a little out of touch if you're not regularly reading the comments.

01:29:38.000 Yeah, and sometimes through Timcast, the second book I did, we were serializing it.

01:29:45.000 And it would be narrated on YouTube as well, piece by piece.

01:29:48.000 And sometimes I got something wrong about, I think it was an amount of miles between one place and another.

01:29:54.000 And I was like, oh, thanks.

01:29:56.000 And it was almost like a fact check.

01:29:57.000 And I fixed it for the book.

01:29:58.000 So I appreciate comments.

01:30:00.000 All of them.

01:30:01.000 Good, bad, ugly.

01:30:03.000 Send them my way.

01:30:04.000 Any comments on X, I appreciate.

01:30:08.000 Especially if you're verified and mad.

01:30:12.000 Those are always good.

01:30:13.000 You can see how many followers you have that are verified now?

01:30:17.000 That's interesting.

01:30:18.000 It is.

01:30:19.000 I haven't looked at it yet.

01:30:20.000 Yeah, you gotta go to your analytics and you can look and then this explains why all these liberals are getting angry because they're not making any money.

01:30:27.000 And then their engagement farmers are making tons of money.

01:30:30.000 Yeah.

01:30:30.000 I thought they were taking care of that.

01:30:32.000 To some degree.

01:30:35.000 I'll clarify. 0.82

01:30:36.000 There are people who do dumb things where it's like, waffles are better than pancakes. 0.93

01:30:41.000 Discuss. 0.88

01:30:41.000 And people get really annoyed by this stuff. 0.88

01:30:43.000 Or they'll talk about news but frame it in a question to generate chaos.

01:30:48.000 Or they post photos and they're like, what do you notice about this photo?

01:30:50.000 And there's literally nothing in the photo and people just start speculating in the comments.

01:30:55.000 Those drive me nuts.

01:30:56.000 Well, one thing that's going to make you a lot of money on X is posting the blue and gold dress and saying, what color is it?

01:31:02.000 Then you're going to get 800,000 comments.

01:31:04.000 And that's the thing.

01:31:05.000 Getting ratioed is money.

01:31:07.000 That guy murdered his wife, I believe, from the blue and white dress.

01:31:11.000 What?

01:31:11.000 Eventually, yeah.

01:31:13.000 What?

01:31:13.000 No.

01:31:14.000 I could be from another dimension right now with a different set of timeline, but I'm pretty sure in this timeline that guy ended up...

01:31:20.000 Elaborate.

01:31:21.000 That's all I know.

01:31:23.000 What?

01:31:23.000 The guy from that picture, who posted the picture, I think murdered his wife.

01:31:27.000 I hope I'm right right now.

01:31:28.000 Good lord.

01:31:28.000 I didn't slip through some portal on the way here.

01:31:30.000 It's a terrible story.

01:31:32.000 I know it is, but he brings it up, you can't not.

01:31:34.000 Oh my gosh. 0.96

01:31:35.000 He tried to kill his wife. 0.96

01:31:36.000 Okay, so in my timeline he killed her, but this one he tried.

01:31:41.000 Man whose mother-in-law's blue and black dress went viral charged with trying to kill wife.

01:31:46.000 Wow!

01:31:48.000 Speaking of viral moments that lead to insanity...

01:31:53.000 You know, after Joe pardoned his son, Hunter, I was just thinking, like, how many more historically unprecedented things can we handle in one year?

01:32:03.000 Better knock on wood. 0.92

01:32:04.000 No, don't knock on wood.

01:32:05.000 I want more.

01:32:05.000 I know.

01:32:06.000 It's fun.

01:32:06.000 Aliens were supposed to invade the other day.

01:32:08.000 That didn't happen.

01:32:09.000 They did.

01:32:09.000 We just haven't noticed yet.

01:32:11.000 Well, there was that video of that woman where she saw a meteor break through the atmosphere, but those happen all the time.

01:32:16.000 Yeah, and people are seeing all those weird drones.

01:32:18.000 That's right.

01:32:18.000 Is that Jersey or Virginia?

01:32:20.000 Both.

01:32:21.000 Jersey.

01:32:22.000 The weird drones flying everywhere.

01:32:23.000 But then there's that stuff in D.C. that was happening where it was clearly just planes.

01:32:27.000 Oh, it was a bunch of planes over DC? Just planes!

01:32:29.000 And lens flares, you know?

01:32:31.000 Like J.J. Abrams' lens flare, yeah.

01:32:34.000 Well, I mean, hey, if I have not identified the plane, it is unidentified and flying.

01:32:38.000 No, that's fair.

01:32:39.000 It is an object.

01:32:40.000 That is fair.

01:32:42.000 But there's weird things going on for sure.

01:32:44.000 Like what?

01:32:46.000 I mean, where do you want to start?

01:32:47.000 We have a cyborg king who's in our administration right now.

01:32:51.000 What are you talking about?

01:32:52.000 Yes.

01:32:54.000 He's a cyborg?

01:32:55.000 Yeah, cyborg king.

01:32:56.000 I love what he says, but I'm worried about our government absorbing AI. I'm worried about, I want to strip away the government to nothing, but I'm worried about implementing an AI government.

01:33:07.000 Because it's like a bigger version of what we're talking about with the 90% error rate for UnitedHealth.

01:33:12.000 We're not ready for AI. Like, our AI is too stupid. 1.00

01:33:15.000 That we know about. 1.00

01:33:17.000 I think even the AI that they have at higher levels is still too stupid. 0.98

01:33:21.000 But they're using AI at war right now, like the Lavender stuff, to programmatic policing. 0.98

01:33:27.000 They're letting the AI determine who they should take out.

01:33:31.000 Yeah.

01:33:32.000 That's like from Captain America, Winter Soldier.

01:33:36.000 Literally the bad guys were trying to implement an AI that would target people they thought were deviant.

01:33:42.000 Yeah.

01:33:43.000 It was sci-fi yesterday, but that's reality right now.

01:33:46.000 But what I'm saying is if you want to implement an AI government, we don't have that AI level yet.

01:33:49.000 And we might get there soon with AGI, our official general intelligence.

01:33:53.000 But right now you don't have it.

01:33:54.000 What's going to happen is you're going to make an AI that says, hey, we want to make government more efficient.

01:33:58.000 What will it do?

01:33:59.000 It'll create a bunch of bloated bills, overspend, and then bankrupt the country and open our borders. 0.95

01:34:04.000 All it's going to do is look at what humans have done and then say, this is the way government should work.

01:34:09.000 And we're all sitting here being like, no, it should not work.

01:34:10.000 Don't put Gemini in charge. 0.99

01:34:15.000 The fact that AI is progressing and there are so many companies working on it is why I bought a lot of Nvidia stock.

01:34:22.000 Do you worry about it ruining the music industry?

01:34:25.000 AI? Well, I think the music industry is already ruined.

01:34:28.000 Yeah, and besides...

01:34:29.000 From streaming and stuff.

01:34:30.000 AI is destroying what's left.

01:34:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:34.000 True, true.

01:34:35.000 But there's still creative stuff, right?

01:34:37.000 So Sleep Token is a great band, very creative.

01:34:42.000 They really do cross a lot of genres.

01:34:44.000 I think that it's really cool that a lot of modern acts are not limited to genre the way that they used to be.

01:34:52.000 There's a lot more crossover and different styles of music that's coming together.

01:34:55.000 Mm-hmm.

01:34:56.000 But the music industry itself is just... 1.00

01:34:59.000 It's a flaming pile of trash. 0.86

01:35:03.000 I think music's been largely solved as a problem for a long time, mathematically. 0.55

01:35:08.000 And there were a few viral videos.

01:35:09.000 There was one famous viral video like 10 years ago where a guy who was a big music producer explained how they make pop stars and how they make the songs.

01:35:16.000 And then the trends in music.

01:35:19.000 There was one video I watched where a music producer explained – I forgot what it's called.

01:35:23.000 But it was the OEO trend that we saw in music for a while where all of these big songs.

01:35:28.000 And it's like basically what happens is there's a certain song that will get a lot of attention and they'll remake it 800 times in ways that's hard for you to recognize.

01:35:38.000 but we can see it when we're doing the mix and in the background.

01:35:41.000 Beats per minute, the key of the song, the pacing, the time, all of that stuff, and it's all the same.

01:35:48.000 There was one viral video, like, I think this was like 15 years ago, where a guy took some random woman who could not sing, and then made a pop video explaining how fake and manufactured everything is.

01:35:58.000 So...

01:35:59.000 When I was a kid, remember when lip-syncing was just Hellworthy Trespass?

01:36:05.000 Million Vanilla.

01:36:06.000 Now it's expected.

01:36:08.000 Now they're backing tracks.

01:36:10.000 And you'll see a singer on stage not singing, and then just do a few lines, and it's normal, and it's allowed.

01:36:16.000 Million Vanilla need a redemption arc now. 1.00

01:36:20.000 I'm sorry.

01:36:21.000 It's ridiculous.

01:36:22.000 But that is a norm now. 0.98

01:36:23.000 It's ridiculous.

01:36:24.000 But I think mathematically music solved and they figured out how to make the most mentally appealing array of sound mathematically.

01:36:33.000 But AI has just cranked it up to the millionth degree.

01:36:37.000 That's part of why I think theatrics have become such a big factor in live music today, whether you're dealing with bands like In This Moment or a band, at least in hard rock and stuff like that.

01:36:49.000 In This Moment, bands like Sleep Token.

01:36:51.000 Rock Loose on Jimmy Kimmel.

01:36:52.000 Yeah.

01:36:53.000 Yeah, there's that kind of stuff.

01:36:55.000 The whole, like the way that Rammstein puts on their shows and stuff.

01:36:59.000 Marilyn Manson.

01:37:00.000 These are all acts that...

01:37:03.000 They're not just music.

01:37:05.000 In the 90s there was such a backlash against the theatrics of the 80s.

01:37:10.000 Everybody wanted to come out wearing their dad's sweater and baggy ripped jeans and just play their instrument and that was the focus.

01:37:16.000 Nowadays it's totally different and if you don't have something that sets you apart From other bands, something that's memorable, even if you have good songs and good music, it's tough to get some kind of traction.

01:37:29.000 I'm thinking of Phil Anselmo saying, we don't have dragons coming out of the speakers.

01:37:33.000 I saw it in your thoughts.

01:37:35.000 I love that.

01:37:35.000 I love that quote.

01:37:36.000 And I'm a huge fan of Pantera.

01:37:39.000 They were a big influence on the way that All That Remains presented ourselves for a long, long time.

01:37:44.000 We were just like, we're not going to get dressed up.

01:37:46.000 It's like I would go on stage wearing shorts and just a cut-off sleeve t-shirt.

01:37:50.000 And there are bands like Killswitch and Gage.

01:37:54.000 Adam would wear ridiculous things because he was making fun of bands that would get dressed up in theatrical stuff.

01:38:00.000 He would literally wear a tutu. 0.95

01:38:03.000 There were times where he'd wear a cape just to look silly.

01:38:08.000 But nowadays, new bands, you really need some kind of something to stand out.

01:38:13.000 Yeah, to set you apart.

01:38:14.000 I saw Black Diamond murder in fat suits. 0.94

01:38:16.000 Yeah.

01:38:17.000 Now...

01:38:17.000 Rest in peace, Trevor.

01:38:18.000 With, like, I use Suno a lot, the AI music generator.

01:38:23.000 And if you have it make a song with lyrics and words, it'll kind of be really, you know, not very good.

01:38:31.000 The minus.

01:38:32.000 Like, it's a song.

01:38:33.000 But the lyrics are usually the cheesiest of dirt rhyming.

01:38:39.000 And, you know, rhyming you with you and things like that.

01:38:42.000 But if you don't put in any lyrics and ask it to make an instrumental song, it will make an amazing instrumental song.

01:38:49.000 Yeah.

01:38:50.000 That, in my view, like, one of the key components of the music industry is making music for video, for intros, for outros, skate videos, for instance.

01:39:00.000 I'm talking to the crew here and I'm like, we don't need to license music anymore if we're looking for backing tracks.

01:39:04.000 Just go on Suno, type in the kind of song you want, hit render, and it'll give you a minute to two minutes of a song you can use for the background of anything you need.

01:39:10.000 It's crazy.

01:39:11.000 Done.

01:39:11.000 And it costs like a dollar.

01:39:13.000 Right.

01:39:14.000 So now the musician, he used to sit in his room and make these songs and was making, you know, a living.

01:39:18.000 Done.

01:39:19.000 This is something that I have harped on forever.

01:39:23.000 If you're going to be a musician or if you want to be a musician, like you need to tell stories.

01:39:31.000 There has to be more than just the music.

01:39:35.000 You want to have a cool beat, you want to have a melody that people remember.

01:39:39.000 But when you write lyrics that speak to people that people can relate to, that's what people will keep coming back to listen to.

01:39:50.000 Our biggest song is a love song.

01:39:52.000 And we're not thought of as that kind of band.

01:39:55.000 We're thought of as a heavy metal band and I'm a screamer and blah, blah, blah.

01:39:58.000 But our biggest song is still What If I Was Nothing.

01:40:00.000 And that song was literally about an argument me and my ex-wife had at the time.

01:40:05.000 It just connects.

01:40:05.000 Yeah, because people can relate.

01:40:08.000 And that's really what you're trying to do.

01:40:10.000 You're trying to relate to people.

01:40:11.000 So if you're an aspiring artist, go out and live life.

01:40:16.000 There was this other...

01:40:16.000 There's an artist that I was friends with that I was also friends with her producer.

01:40:21.000 And we were talking about some of the stuff that they were doing.

01:40:24.000 And they had some really cool stuff.

01:40:25.000 And there was this great line.

01:40:27.000 And she was a female artist. 0.98

01:40:28.000 And one of the lines they had...

01:40:31.000 Was F my safe word, don't you stop.

01:40:34.000 Because she wanted to be like an LA grungy, dirty kind of thing, but she wasn't genuinely that person.

01:40:40.000 They were like, what does she need to do?

01:40:42.000 They asked me, what do you think she needs to do? 0.97

01:40:43.000 And I was like, she needs to go get on heroin for a year and then get off of it. 1.00

01:40:47.000 Because she was young and she didn't have a lot of experiences.

01:40:49.000 She needed to go and live life and have something to actually write about that people could relate with.

01:40:53.000 I saw a really interesting video from Ben Affleck, of all people, recently talking about AI in movies.

01:40:59.000 And he said something about how AI can't account for taste.

01:41:04.000 And that's the one area where humans will always have the competitive advantage is knowing when to stop.

01:41:09.000 You don't agree?

01:41:10.000 Absolutely not.

01:41:11.000 Why?

01:41:12.000 He's looking at AI as it is now.

01:41:15.000 So you can't do that.

01:41:16.000 I make this point quite a bit.

01:41:18.000 If you go on my Instagram and scroll way back to two years ago and look at the early AI generated image of Nancy Pelosi, it looks like a caricature grotesque image.

01:41:27.000 If right now—and it was a year later I brought this up—you could render a full, normal-looking picture of her.

01:41:33.000 Today, you can make a full video of her purchasing $15 ice cream, and it looks real.

01:41:39.000 So Ben Affleck's looking at the modern iteration of AI video and being like, ah, but it doesn't understand taste.

01:41:45.000 Humans are going to—nope.

01:41:46.000 I don't know.

01:41:47.000 I just don't think you can replicate art with a machine.

01:41:50.000 What I'm seeing when I ever have these conversations with pro-AI people is I don't participate in AI. But look at music.

01:41:56.000 Music's done.

01:41:57.000 But there's people who don't care.

01:41:58.000 I don't agree with that, actually.

01:41:59.000 I mean, so I'm a huge country music fan.

01:42:01.000 And one of the biggest things that's happened in the country music industry recently There's a huge growth of independent artists outside of the Nashville machine that have gained amazing traction for doing exactly what Phil's talking about, telling stories.

01:42:17.000 You look at people like Charles Wesley Godwin, Wyatt Flores, Coulter Wall.

01:42:21.000 Sarah Farrell.

01:42:21.000 Exactly.

01:42:22.000 They're incredible.

01:42:23.000 And the AI is going to take them all, analyze how long someone listens to one part of the song.

01:42:29.000 It doesn't just know what song you like.

01:42:31.000 It knows when you're, like, if you're playing the song on your phone, it's got the camera looking into your eyes.

01:42:37.000 And it knows what part of the song triggered an emotional response.

01:42:42.000 How do you replicate Charles Wesley Godwin walking through the streets of West Virginia and seeing street graffiti on a bridge and making a story out of it?

01:42:51.000 The AI literally will just do that. 0.85

01:42:53.000 What do you mean?

01:42:55.000 Because that's a unique concept.

01:42:57.000 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 That's come from real lived experiences.

01:43:00.000 But you don't know that it's a leftist term.

01:43:02.000 But you don't know that's real.

01:43:03.000 So if I told a story, if I wrote a song where I said how I was driving in the backcountry in West Virginia and I saw an injured dog and I got out and he came up to me and he was scared and I brought him in my car and then we drove down and I looked for a vet but he didn't have an owner so I decided to adopt him.

01:43:19.000 People would be like, wow, I made all that up.

01:43:21.000 It's not real.

01:43:21.000 You know this really, really bummed me out.

01:43:25.000 The song, The Freshman by the Verve Pipe, it's totally fake.

01:43:29.000 And that's why a lot of artists always said, never tell people what the song's about because they'll get bummed.

01:43:35.000 Because when you listen to that song, it's about dudes and these people who are early in college, and this guy's girlfriend commits suicide, and now they don't know how to react to it, and he's like, he never really wept, and it's not our fault, we're not responsible for this.

01:43:48.000 And then when you ask him about it, he's like, I was just writing a story.

01:43:50.000 And it's like, well, it was a really great song.

01:43:52.000 It's kind of a bummer because you thought it was real, but it wasn't.

01:43:54.000 AI is going to analyze that to the T, and it's going to replicate it.

01:43:58.000 It absolutely will.

01:43:59.000 What's going to happen is when it becomes indistinguishable, like what you're saying, people are going to start debating with themselves and others, does it matter?

01:44:06.000 To me, it matters.

01:44:07.000 But then they'll say, if you can't tell, why does it matter?

01:44:10.000 Look at Nirvana.

01:44:12.000 Yeah.

01:44:12.000 When Smells Like Teen Spirit, those lyrics are gibberish.

01:44:17.000 Yep.

01:44:17.000 And I met a producer when I lived in Seattle who had worked with Early Nirvana, and he said that Kurt would often just groan melodies and then scribble random words to fit the melody structure because he liked the way the song was.

01:44:30.000 That's it.

01:44:31.000 And I was like, sounds about right.

01:44:33.000 Some of the songs are legit.

01:44:34.000 Like, Early Nirvana did have songs that were about things.

01:44:37.000 Some of them were obviously just gibberish.

01:44:40.000 Yep.

01:44:41.000 But that is an anomaly.

01:44:45.000 You're right about a lot of their stuff was just gobbledygook, but at the same time, that isn't something that happens all the time.

01:44:55.000 Just like the song Hook by...

01:44:58.000 Oh, dude.

01:44:59.000 It's a great song, but literally he's saying it doesn't matter what I say.

01:45:03.000 So you can...

01:45:05.000 There is...

01:45:07.000 You know, substance of the argument that it can be faked.

01:45:10.000 But if you're telling a story that people can relate to, you do, you know, people do care because, I mean, I've had thousands and thousands of people come up to me and say, this song really helped me through a hard time in my life.

01:45:24.000 Yeah, and I guess my point about country music and the way that that industry is changing is that there was a genuine appetite for something that wasn't overly produced radio BS about trucks and guns and pushing, right?

01:45:37.000 Like, people wanted a real human emotion expressed in their songs, and luckily you had all these amazing artists out there who were doing that and got famous because of it.

01:45:47.000 So we're gonna go to super chats.

01:45:49.000 Before we do, I have a prepared statement.

01:45:53.000 I have to be very careful.

01:45:55.000 Many are wondering what's going on pertaining to the lawsuit that I filed in defamation over the Harris campaign, which is ongoing.

01:46:01.000 And I have this to say, quote, we have some positive updates coming in the lawsuit.

01:46:06.000 I can't speak on it just yet, but more info is coming.

01:46:10.000 Mm-mm.

01:46:12.000 Mm-mm.

01:46:12.000 Um...

01:46:14.000 So, uh, that's all I can say for now.

01:46:16.000 Dang.

01:46:17.000 But, uh, I will stress again, we have some positive updates coming.

01:46:20.000 I can't say, uh, much on that, but, um, stay tuned, and, uh, you will hear something soon.

01:46:27.000 All right, let's grab Super Chats!

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01:46:35.000 Kyle N. says, love the show, keep up the good work, everybody, really do appreciate it.

01:46:39.000 Death from afar and fishing says two more days, Tim, on December 7th, 1941, when all the people came together in the attacks of Pearl Harbor.

01:46:48.000 What a brutal, brutal and awful day.

01:46:51.000 Oh, Japan, they made a mistake. 0.98

01:46:53.000 They made a big mistake.

01:46:54.000 Jason Dixon says if she don't hawk to her, I don't talk to her.

01:46:58.000 You're supposed to put talk to her.

01:47:01.000 Talk to her.

01:47:03.000 Missed the opportunity.

01:47:04.000 El Rojo says, Tim, the reason the gun malfunctioned is because tilt barrel pistols like the Glock require a booster when suppressed to cycle properly.

01:47:12.000 Subsonic rounds don't have enough energy to cycle the slide.

01:47:16.000 Indeed.

01:47:16.000 We were talking about this the other day.

01:47:18.000 And I rewatched it again.

01:47:20.000 And it does look like he tries to fire and then cycles it and then fires, which is indicative of him not just shooting, cycling, shooting, cycling.

01:47:28.000 He does try and it doesn't work.

01:47:29.000 So interesting.

01:47:33.000 Sam Uri says, Tim, did you ever think Cenk came on your show to see how Timcast works on the inside and steel production ideas?

01:47:39.000 No.

01:47:41.000 And I also don't care if he did.

01:47:42.000 If Cenk came on the show and came here and said, Tim, explain to me how everything works and how your production is.

01:47:47.000 I'd be like, here we go.

01:47:48.000 Here's how we do it.

01:47:49.000 This is the way we operate.

01:47:50.000 You know, I like Elon Musk.

01:47:52.000 He says they don't have patents.

01:47:54.000 Have you seen him talk about this?

01:47:56.000 Because no one can steal it.

01:47:57.000 Yeah.

01:47:58.000 That's what he says, yeah.

01:47:58.000 He's like, good luck.

01:47:59.000 This is from a breakaway civilization.

01:48:01.000 I was on a bus.

01:48:02.000 Man, how long was this?

01:48:03.000 13 years ago.

01:48:04.000 And I was working on an app with a small startup group.

01:48:08.000 And so I'm hanging out with a friend on a bus in LA and I'm explaining what our company does.

01:48:13.000 And it's like, here's the plan.

01:48:16.000 Here's what we're going to do.

01:48:17.000 And basically it was ActBlue before ActBlue existed.

01:48:19.000 And I really wish we actually got it off the ground.

01:48:21.000 But as it goes with young upstarts, it usually just doesn't.

01:48:25.000 But the idea was like, how can we facilitate digital donations to politicians and create this network?

01:48:29.000 And so we started building and things like that.

01:48:31.000 And so I'm sitting on a bus and I'm talking to my friend.

01:48:33.000 And she goes, stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:48:35.000 Someone's going to hear you.

01:48:36.000 And I look around at everyone on the bus and I'm like, you think these people are going to steal my idea?

01:48:41.000 Like, this is the wrong attitude to have.

01:48:43.000 And so many people who are entrepreneurs are terrified to say what their idea is because, like, someone's going to steal it.

01:48:49.000 I'll tell you exactly what happens.

01:48:50.000 If you go meet with an investor...

01:48:53.000 They're going to say, what's your idea?

01:48:54.000 And if you can articulate your idea effectively, they're going to say, okay, what do you need to make it work?

01:49:01.000 They're not going to go, that's a great idea.

01:49:03.000 I'm going to write it down and have someone else do it.

01:49:05.000 Because then they're going to be saying, I'm going to invest more money in trying to figure out your vision that I don't have because the idea makes sense.

01:49:12.000 No, they're going to be like, I'll just hire you.

01:49:14.000 What do you want?

01:49:14.000 How much are I going to give you?

01:49:15.000 People don't understand that these incubators, they'll give you 50 grand for 30% of your company and then say, here's 50 grand.

01:49:22.000 Make your vision happen.

01:49:23.000 Come back to me when the money runs out.

01:49:25.000 Make it work.

01:49:26.000 That's a huge chunk of your company for not that much money for a startup.

01:49:30.000 They're not going to steal your idea.

01:49:31.000 They're going to hire you to make it.

01:49:33.000 But people get scared, you know?

01:49:35.000 Cenk Uygur came here and was like, you know, it's funny because, you know what's really funny about Cenk Uygur is 2014, yeah, I think it's like 2014, I meet up with him in Los Angeles, like I saw him at VidCon, shake his hand, and we're talking, and I'm talking about doing YouTube stuff and what I'm seeing, and I was talking about how I tried running ads on Young Turks because we were promoting a documentary and it wouldn't work, and he's like, really?

01:49:59.000 And he was like, what happened?

01:50:01.000 And I'm explaining how much we bid.

01:50:03.000 I was like, here's our total budget amount.

01:50:05.000 Here's what we bid.

01:50:06.000 And we wanted to run on Young Turks because it was politically minded individuals in the space.

01:50:09.000 This is well before the Trump era.

01:50:11.000 So things weren't that crazy.

01:50:13.000 He was totally cool.

01:50:15.000 Three years later, he's screaming in my face at Politicon about being a MAGA Trump guy, just blew up in my face screaming.

01:50:23.000 And now we're seven years later and he's coming on the show and he's saying, oh, everything's back to normal.

01:50:28.000 I'm just like, okay, dude.

01:50:29.000 Well, you know, whatever, man.

01:50:32.000 All right.

01:50:33.000 Let's see.

01:50:36.000 Mustak Rakish says, How do you think Taylor would feel if someone posted a picture of Daniel Pearl and said, We want more of this, followed by her own photo?

01:50:47.000 Who's that?

01:50:48.000 Is that the guy who got his head taken off?

01:50:50.000 Yeah, the journalist.

01:50:51.000 Oh.

01:50:52.000 Oh, yeah, dude.

01:50:53.000 She'd be screaming, The far right!

01:50:57.000 And they said, look, I'm not saying I want it, but it's the public sentiment.

01:51:02.000 They don't like the press.

01:51:03.000 That's true.

01:51:06.000 All right.

01:51:07.000 Jacob Aldi says, Georgian prime minister has started his brutal crackdown on the pro-EU protesters.

01:51:12.000 He called in the military to start wiping out protesters.

01:51:15.000 He just stated he would gladly use torture to do so.

01:51:18.000 Evil.

01:51:18.000 Wow.

01:51:20.000 That's crazy.

01:51:22.000 So Ravia says, manga, anime, live movie, Parasite.

01:51:26.000 The Maxim featured mothers protecting their child, including human-eating parasite that gave birth to a human baby.

01:51:33.000 Is that the one where, like, the aliens...

01:51:35.000 Have you seen this one?

01:51:36.000 So it's like, the aliens will come and infect your head, and then they look normal, but their head can mutate into a gigantic alien weird thing, and it takes over your body.

01:51:46.000 But then in the anime, in the manga, I think it is, the alien that infects this one guy accidentally gets his hand.

01:51:53.000 So his hand is like a weird alien thing, but he has full control of his body.

01:51:57.000 Something like that.

01:51:59.000 I think...

01:52:00.000 Seven years ago.

01:52:04.000 Aliens came to this planet and infected the minds of a large portion of this population.

01:52:09.000 And that's why their IQs have dropped so precipitously.

01:52:12.000 I'm kidding, by the way, but it's very much like, what is it called?

01:52:16.000 Invasion?

01:52:16.000 Invasion of the Body Snatchers?

01:52:18.000 No, no.

01:52:18.000 Invasion by Nicole Kidman.

01:52:19.000 Great one.

01:52:20.000 With Nicole Kidman from 2007 where an astronaut comes back with a fungal parasite.

01:52:26.000 That infects you.

01:52:27.000 If it infects you and you go to sleep, the hormones you release in REM sleep activate the fungus, which then turns you into a hive, alien-controlled, and they vomit on people to spread the disease.

01:52:41.000 Pretty sure Rick and Morty made fun of the film, did a parody of it.

01:52:45.000 And then in the movie, they develop a vaccine and cure everybody.

01:52:48.000 But it really does feel like that happened, doesn't it?

01:52:51.000 Around the COVID lockdowns?

01:52:52.000 Vision of the Body Snatchers, for sure, if you watch that. 0.55

01:52:54.000 I know that one quite well.

01:52:56.000 That's where we're living.

01:52:57.000 That's when, um, what's-his-face goes...

01:53:00.000 Yeah, um, he just passed away, uh, Sutherland.

01:53:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:04.000 He points and screams famously.

01:53:07.000 Let's go!

01:53:08.000 Polypure says, you feel better about yourself when you have a job.

01:53:11.000 My father worked until 80 and my grandfather worked until 94, even though both didn't have to.

01:53:15.000 Mm-hmm.

01:53:16.000 Yeah, so there's that documentary HBO did like 20 years ago about Blue Zones.

01:53:22.000 I think it was HBO. These are areas where people live to be over 100. They said there are seven things that they identified that they believe leads to longevity, one of which is they only eat till they're 80% full.

01:53:33.000 They never eat till they're full.

01:53:35.000 But the most important thing was they have purpose.

01:53:38.000 And so there's this one scene where there's this old 90-year-old Japanese guy chopping wood, and they ask him, why are you doing this?

01:53:44.000 Shouldn't someone younger be doing this?

01:53:46.000 And he's like, what?

01:53:47.000 No one will do this.

01:53:48.000 If I don't do it, no one will do it.

01:53:49.000 I have to do it.

01:53:50.000 And so that's why he's alive, because he has to do it.

01:53:53.000 I think that's a component of...

01:53:55.000 Correct me if I'm wrong, too.

01:53:56.000 Isn't it true that if babies aren't touched, they die?

01:53:58.000 Yes.

01:54:00.000 Skin-to-skin contact is hugely important in the early hours of a child's life.

01:54:04.000 But not just in the early hours.

01:54:06.000 I heard that...

01:54:07.000 I could be wrong, but I've heard that if, like, you leave a baby unattended for, like, a moderately short period of time, and I'm not saying, like, for a few minutes, but I'm not...

01:54:18.000 It's like...

01:54:19.000 The baby won't starve to death if it's deprived of human contact.

01:54:23.000 It just dies.

01:54:24.000 You've heard that?

01:54:26.000 I haven't heard that, but I know of stories from back home of infants being abandoned in hotels for days and still making it.

01:54:35.000 Really?

01:54:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:54:36.000 How old infants?

01:54:38.000 Like, just born.

01:54:38.000 Just born?

01:54:39.000 And left in a toilet, yeah.

01:54:40.000 It was a horrible story.

01:54:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:54:42.000 I think the cop actually adopted.

01:54:43.000 So I just Googled it.

01:54:44.000 Physical touch, emotional contention, and social interaction.

01:54:47.000 Without this, babies can suffer severe consequences, including death.

01:54:51.000 Wow.

01:54:51.000 If deprived of human conduct.

01:54:52.000 I always thought that was really interesting because an otherwise healthy baby that has enough energy within it to survive would just die if deprived of contact.

01:55:01.000 And these are probably very specific circumstances if they do tend to happen at whatever rate.

01:55:06.000 But then hearing about how people who don't have jobs, people who retire have the highest rate of mortality, it feels like an evolutionary component within humans to survive.

01:55:15.000 Basically, what did Ian call it?

01:55:18.000 Apoptosis?

01:55:18.000 You know what it's called?

01:55:19.000 When cells self-destruct if they become damaged or useless.

01:55:23.000 So it would make sense from an evolutionary standpoint.

01:55:25.000 If you're an old person, if you're an older person and you're in a tribe of people and you're not doing any work or contributing, you are a drag on the energy requirements of that tribe. 0.69

01:55:36.000 So it makes sense that your body would be like shutting down.

01:55:40.000 Tribes where the people who are no longer contributing pass on quickly are more successful than tribes of people where they have to maintain a large elderly population.

01:55:52.000 So maybe that's why people who work and that's also why babies who are deprived of human contact just cease being alive.

01:55:58.000 Yeah.

01:55:59.000 Because they're not part of the tribe.

01:56:01.000 They're not growing.

01:56:02.000 It's not an efficient use of energy resources.

01:56:03.000 It's why lockdowns were so destructive to the world.

01:56:07.000 All right.

01:56:08.000 Jen Desai says the ACA mandates health insurance companies can only use 20 percent of premiums to pay for their operations.

01:56:15.000 80 percent has to go to health care.

01:56:17.000 Look up ACA 8020 rule ACA wrecked health insurance.

01:56:21.000 Interesting.

01:56:22.000 Yes.

01:56:25.000 Harry Lawrence says, UHD is part of Optum.

01:56:27.000 Optum made mucho money by implementing the Obama portal for the ACA. Then each state also hired them to create their portals as well.

01:56:34.000 The ACA made all of this get worse for everybody.

01:56:38.000 Yo, I was pissed when they introduced the individual mandates.

01:56:42.000 You remember that?

01:56:43.000 Yeah.

01:56:43.000 I was like, dude, I don't make enough money to be forced to pay for this.

01:56:47.000 Mm-hmm.

01:56:48.000 And so now they're basically like, well, you have to sign up and pay this per month.

01:56:51.000 I'm like, can't.

01:56:52.000 And they're like, don't worry, we'll tax you at the end of the year.

01:56:54.000 And I'm like, so I don't get healthcare and I lose money?

01:56:57.000 That's awesome.

01:56:58.000 Thanks. 0.97

01:56:59.000 Scumbags. 0.57

01:57:01.000 I had to go on the healthcare exchange when I first started working at The Spectator because they weren't incorporated in the U.S. yet, so they could only offer healthcare to their U.K. employees. 0.87

01:57:09.000 And it was $1,200 in a monthly premium for a normal PPO plan.

01:57:15.000 I had health insurance.

01:57:17.000 I was 27 and healthy, not on any medication, nothing.

01:57:21.000 Yep, I had health insurance through my ex-wife's company, and they stopped providing for families, and it was extremely expensive to buy it.

01:57:32.000 I don't remember exactly what it was back then, but it was ridiculous, and it was a mess of a policy.

01:57:40.000 By our third kid, we were like, we're not going to the hospital this time, we're doing this at home. 0.67

01:57:45.000 Screw it all.

01:57:46.000 And it was way better.

01:57:47.000 Much better experience.

01:57:49.000 Well, I mean, that's good.

01:57:51.000 Not everyone can do it, you know?

01:57:52.000 No.

01:57:53.000 When we were, with our first, we didn't know any better.

01:57:55.000 We didn't know about home bursts like that.

01:57:57.000 But now, you know, on our third, it was great.

01:57:59.000 And a little cheaper.

01:58:01.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know that I would want the first to be a home birth, but if you're talking about second and third, I think that it's probably more likely because I just feel like there's more things that can go wrong and also the lack of experience, the first one.

01:58:15.000 You just need someone in the hospital to advocate for you to not go through all the stuff that they force you, that they think they can force you to do.

01:58:22.000 So true.

01:58:23.000 Because they try to do everything.

01:58:25.000 Oh sure, yeah.

01:58:26.000 You gotta just go in there being like, nope.

01:58:28.000 And you could do that.

01:58:29.000 It's your baby.

01:58:29.000 All right, Illuminati says, UnitedHealth is facing lawsuits alleging patients died as a result of medical malpractice, denying them life-saving care they were entitled to.

01:58:37.000 The industry has been getting away with murder for far too long.

01:58:41.000 I do not disagree.

01:58:43.000 Insurance companies, the big pharma companies, the whole healthcare industry is a mess.

01:58:47.000 It's a disaster.

01:58:48.000 But the problems are not solved by these vigilante people in the streets doing messed up Ish, if you know what I mean.

01:58:56.000 We need, there's a solution to what ails us, and it is getting in Akash Patel, getting in a Donald Trump.

01:59:04.000 We are so close to at least the opening of the gates of a populist victory with Donald Trump's second term and the people he's already chosen.

01:59:13.000 Hegseth is sounding pretty good.

01:59:14.000 We'll see.

01:59:15.000 A lot of these people seem fairly moderate.

01:59:17.000 They're not the hard—like Matt Gaetz was the nuclear bomb.

01:59:19.000 Kash Patel's not some crazy, unhinged, burn the FBI down kind of guy.

01:59:24.000 He's fairly moderate.

01:59:25.000 He didn't say he's going to fire the FBI. He didn't say he's going to abolish it.

01:59:28.000 He said he's going to go have him solve crimes.

01:59:29.000 So they should be happy with that.

01:59:31.000 And Hegseth is not some hippie libertarian anti-war guy either, but he's going to listen to our soldiers.

01:59:38.000 He's going to do a better job of it. 0.99

01:59:40.000 With what's going on in the healthcare industry, you look at the power that the people on X have when they express their opinions and Trump listens, like when he got rid of Chronister, I'm saying we are so close to seeing major victories and reformation and accountability The stupidest thing anybody could do is engage in violence like this. 0.99

01:59:58.000 If it is ideologically driven, these leftists are nuts. 0.99

02:00:01.000 They're just going to ruin everything. 0.99

02:00:04.000 That's what they're good at.

02:00:06.000 Indeed.

02:00:06.000 Maybe that's the point.

02:00:07.000 People are crazy. 0.99

02:00:09.000 All right. 0.87

02:00:11.000 Shooter McKevin says, let's not forget that Taylor Lorenz's uncle runs, is involved with the Internet Archive, and allegedly wiped her upper-class history.

02:00:18.000 Ironic on the celebration.

02:00:20.000 What?

02:00:20.000 But you don't need to be related to someone for that.

02:00:22.000 You could hire a service, and they're not expensive.

02:00:24.000 I mean, they're more expensive.

02:00:25.000 Like, the average person's not going to pay for it, but for the average public figure, you pay a couple grand and a company will go and just wipe the Internet of your existence.

02:00:33.000 Still interesting.

02:00:34.000 Hmm.

02:00:34.000 Yeah.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 06, 2024

Leftist Journo THREATS Spark PANIC After UnitedHealth ASSASSINATION w-Amber Duke | Timcast IRL

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