Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 25, 2025


Leftist Terror Attack On ICE In Dallas, Jimmy Kimmel Doubles Down Insulting MAGA | Timcast IRL


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 16 minutes

Words per Minute

198.51437

Word Count

27,170

Sentence Count

1,973

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

29


Summary

A gunman opened fire on an ICE facility in Dallas, Texas on Wednesday morning, killing one person and injuring two others. The FBI is investigating whether there was an ideological motive behind the attack, but it s already been politicized by President Trump and the media.


Transcript

00:02:27.000 This morning, just before 7 a.m. local time, a shooter opened fire on a Dallas ice facility, killing one and leaving two others in critical condition.
00:02:36.000 Now, this is the fourth attack on an ice facility since August 1st.
00:02:41.000 So this summer has been a massively uh violent time, and we're gonna talk about that tonight, and it's probably gonna be the the major topic of conversation.
00:02:50.000 Uh Tim is gonna be doing a piece with Jesse Waters, and we're gonna cover that, but before we do, why don't we go ahead and go around the table and introduce everybody?
00:03:00.000 Marty O'Donnell is our our guest today.
00:03:02.000 So tell everyone about yourself, Marty.
00:03:03.000 We can talk about violence all you want, but at some point we've got to talk about some video games, which are not violence.
00:03:08.000 This is why people aren't violent, because they're playing video games instead.
00:03:11.000 Uh yeah, so I uh I'm a composer and audio director, and I did Halo and Destiny and uh Miss uh Myth the Fallen Lords and Oni and whole bunch of games.
00:03:23.000 Uh before that I did TV commercials.
00:03:25.000 So uh and now you're running for Congress, right?
00:03:27.000 And now yes, instead of retiring and playing with my grandsons, which I still am going to do.
00:03:32.000 I'm still gonna play with my three grandsons.
00:03:34.000 Uh I decided I it's time for me to do my civic duty and and payback because I'm gonna run for Congress and uh unseat the Democrat Congresswoman in my district in Nevada and swap it out with a Republican.
00:03:49.000 Me.
00:03:50.000 Awesome.
00:03:50.000 Well, thank you for joining us.
00:03:51.000 Yeah.
00:03:52.000 Brett is here.
00:03:52.000 Guys, what's going on?
00:03:53.000 It's Brett.
00:03:54.000 Normally we're doing pop culture crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
00:03:58.000 You should join us there.
00:04:00.000 But we got a bunch to get into tonight.
00:04:01.000 I'm also in the house.
00:04:02.000 Hello, Phil.
00:04:03.000 Hello, everyone.
00:04:03.000 Good to meet you, Marty.
00:04:04.000 Yeah, nice to meet you all.
00:04:05.000 I'm a video game official.
00:04:07.000 Since 1983, I think when I got my start playing atari for the first time.
00:04:11.000 So that's cool.
00:04:12.000 The Atari was your first one?
00:04:13.000 Yeah, that's a big one.
00:04:13.000 We got a Commodore 64 and Atari 2600 in the house.
00:04:16.000 I had both of those myself.
00:04:17.000 Yes.
00:04:18.000 Mail Order Monsters.
00:04:19.000 Shout out.
00:04:20.000 Awesome.
00:04:20.000 All right, so we're gonna jump right into this from Reuters.
00:04:23.000 Gunman row anti-ice on unused bullet in fatal attack on Dallas Immigration Office.
00:04:29.000 McKinney, Texas, September 24th.
00:04:32.000 A gunman row anti-ICE on an unused bullet killed one detainee and wounded two others on Wednesday when he fired on an immigration and customs enforcement field office in Dallas from a nearby rooftop before taking his own life, officials said.
00:04:45.000 FBI director Cash Patel posted a photo on X of what he said was the susp suspect's unused ammon ammunition showing the shell casing of one round inscribed with the phrase anti-ICE along where to go along some along the side.
00:05:00.000 Um while the investigation is ongoing, an initial review of the evidence shows an ideological motive behind this attack, Patel wrote.
00:05:07.000 U.S. President Donald Trump quickly politicized the incident on his truth social platform, accusing the radical left Democrats of stoking anti-ICE violence by constantly demonizing law enforcement, calling for ice to be demolished, and comparing ICE to officers to Nazis.
00:05:22.000 Now look, if the Democrats are actually against these attacks, and like I said earlier, there have been four ICE uh ice facilities attacked just since August 1st.
00:05:34.000 If Democrats are actually against these, it is incumbent on the Democrats to make a simple statement.
00:05:40.000 Allow ICE to do its job.
00:05:44.000 Stop attacking ICE facilities.
00:05:46.000 They don't, they have not, because generally they want to see this activity.
00:05:52.000 They want to see people frustrated with ice and they want to see people taking matters into their own hands.
00:06:00.000 The I mean seriously, uh give me a break.
00:06:03.000 They're gonna accuse Trump of politicizing something because he said this is a kid who's leftist and he's writes anti-ICE, so he's anti-ICE.
00:06:14.000 How is that politicizing?
00:06:15.000 He's just it's just the fact.
00:06:16.000 Yeah.
00:06:17.000 Like it's the kid already said I'm I'm a leftist and I'm anti-ICE, and this his whole family and the whole background is that that it's already been politicized.
00:06:25.000 It's not something Donald Trump did.
00:06:27.000 If I wanted to talk about the politicization of it, you'd talk about Gavin Newsom, who went on with Jimmy Kimmel last night, immediately just literally just last night, talking about anti-mask lol, ironic policies that they're implementing in the state of California to prevent ICE officers from wearing masks so they work.
00:06:45.000 And then they're like, but why would they want to cover their face?
00:06:48.000 Oh, I have no idea.
00:06:49.000 And then of course this happens the very next day.
00:06:52.000 You could make the argument that what he said the night before played a larger role in what happened today than any so-called politicization that Trump did merely by pointing out what the obvious political affiliation of somebody who writes anti-ICE on ammunition.
00:07:06.000 And whether it be whether it be Gavin Newsom or whether it be Pritzker who's been saying calling you know ice gestapo, yeah, calling Donald Trump a fascist, saying that that the enforcement of immigration law is a terrible, terrible thing, and it's it's evil, and you're your disabil the f the the vernacular they use, too.
00:07:29.000 You're disappointed.
00:07:32.000 AOC uh Gestapo and uh stormtroopers, a major from Washington, um obviously AOC, the whole, you know, uh Omar has been saying it.
00:07:44.000 The whole squad.
00:07:46.000 I mean, this is not some kind of isolated one particular uh congressperson or one representative that's actually speaking out of pocket.
00:07:56.000 This is the constant refrain from the Democrats for at least the past ten years.
00:08:02.000 Yeah.
00:08:02.000 And this is this is normal, and I think that this is what you see.
00:08:06.000 You see people saying, look, it is incumbent on us to go and take matters into our own hand, because again, the the type of rhetoric that you get, it's not just that Donald Trump is is a fascist or a Nazi, it's also there won't be elections again.
00:08:21.000 How many times have you been last night too?
00:08:23.000 Yeah.
00:08:23.000 So Newsom is saying there won't be a end of democracy, it's a threat to democracy.
00:08:28.000 It's a you know, it's they they've been saying this for so long.
00:08:32.000 But here's the thing it's the center of the left that's saying this.
00:08:36.000 You know, you compare you have to compare center left and center right, and it's like what the right is saying on the at the center is just common sense, normal stuff.
00:08:45.000 I wish it was just the far left, but the center of the left is saying this crazy wacky, horrible stuff.
00:08:51.000 I get the feeling that they're they're justifying it by thinking, okay, you know what, a little bit of chaos can create good in society, so let's let's maybe allow that to happen, and that they think that what it will happen is that the government will ease off and pull back on ice.
00:09:04.000 But what you don't realize is when you stoke chaos, no one controls that.
00:09:09.000 I totally disagree with you.
00:09:10.000 I don't think that it's about trying to produce a what they what anyone would consider good.
00:09:15.000 It's literally just trying to produce chaos in order to stymie the administration from doing what they were voted into office to do.
00:09:26.000 Well, the people in some of these states with the big cities, especially, if you've ever lived in like a big city, there's a lot of illegal immigrants that end up becoming your friends in those cities.
00:09:34.000 And if they're getting yanked out of their houses, they're probably like, this is the most evil thing I've ever experienced.
00:09:38.000 We have to stop it.
00:09:39.000 Like that's are you talking about citizens or are you talking about politicians?
00:09:43.000 Because we're he's talking about the way that the politicians are framing it, which is very different from the way your neighbors are going to frame it.
00:09:50.000 The politicians may be more are maybe have a more of an agenda, but the people, the message is getting like it's stoking this feeling of like what's happening is evil.
00:09:58.000 People are thinking it's evil and they they're they're supposed to break the law to stop the evil.
00:10:02.000 The left is saying it's evil, but like I don't believe my constituents in Las Vegas.
00:10:07.000 Most of these people who are uh, you know, they're they're legal immigrants.
00:10:11.000 They went through the process.
00:10:13.000 They they feel like the illegals and the open borders is what's causing all the chaos.
00:10:19.000 And they they don't see ice as anything but something that is going to help fix the situation.
00:10:25.000 So um I I just feel like the middle of the left, the center left people are what you said, which is like we want to disrupt Donald Trump at all costs, no matter what happens, and that what that's gonna do is going to cause the fringy, you know, nihilistic, crazy kids to go out there and just start shooting and and then committing suicide.
00:10:46.000 This is another guy who commits suicide today, right?
00:10:48.000 So it's like this nihilism, this violent nihilism is going to like.
00:10:53.000 I I have two choices because nothing has any meaning.
00:10:56.000 I'm gonna commit suicide and I'm going to commit uh uh murder people, yeah.
00:11:01.000 In that in usually in the order of murdering first.
00:11:04.000 Yeah.
00:11:04.000 I don't know how much time we have before they have to run uh Tim's segment, but what do you do you think it has been a net benefit or a net positive?
00:11:12.000 Because we're talking about how it's being framed from the left.
00:11:14.000 But the video, do you see the Theo Vaughn thing about being framed in the ice video?
00:11:19.000 Do you think that those videos from DHS are doing more harm than good?
00:11:22.000 Uh I think that those are probably throwing red meat to the base.
00:11:25.000 Yeah.
00:11:26.000 I I there probably are people that see them and and say, Oh, this is so terrible that they're doing this, it's so awful that they're saying these things.
00:11:33.000 Um, and obviously Theo Vaughn is is like, look, man, don't paint a target on me.
00:11:37.000 And that's a legitimate concern.
00:11:39.000 I uh he said that yesterday, and then this happens today.
00:11:41.000 He's like, I don't want to get caught up in the case.
00:11:42.000 Yeah, I and I totally respect his perspective.
00:11:44.000 But I do think that the people that are are looking at those things and that are apoplectic about them.
00:11:50.000 It if it wasn't a a video that ICE put out, it would be something else that they would be apoplectic about.
00:11:56.000 They would be the the reaction that they have is going to be the same, whether it be something that the right thinks is funny or whether it be something totally mundane and anodyne, right?
00:12:08.000 I got the way it would be.
00:12:09.000 Did you guys see the ICE uh video of Pokemon?
00:12:12.000 Pokemon.
00:12:13.000 They started uh Oh, we're about to go with um that uh they use the song, the theme song for Pokemon.
00:12:19.000 My friend Jason Page is the singer.
00:12:20.000 So I turn it on, I hear my friend's voice singing, gotta catch them, and they're grabbing illegal immigrants, and it's like that's what I was talking about.
00:12:27.000 That's what I was asking Phil about.
00:12:28.000 I said, Do you think that video is a benefit for the base or not?
00:12:30.000 I want to ask Marty.
00:12:31.000 I know we're about to go to a clip, but like how would you feel if one of your musics or or your own vocals were just taken and used by a couple of things?
00:12:38.000 I've my Halo Monk chat has been used in a lot of places.
00:12:41.000 I never approved.
00:12:42.000 So yeah, I wouldn't be happy about it.
00:12:44.000 I'm guilty of that, my bandro.
00:12:46.000 I told Marty we're I didn't say I was upset about all of them.
00:12:50.000 But I I just want to you make sure I'm coming clean.
00:12:52.000 All the remains we we use that for a long, long time.
00:12:55.000 Write me a check after the show.
00:12:56.000 Absolutely.
00:12:56.000 Absolutely.
00:12:57.000 There won't be a lot of zeros.
00:13:00.000 Um yeah, I guess uh Tim is gonna be on um what is it?
00:13:06.000 Jesse Waters in in just a minute or so.
00:13:09.000 Um Jesse Larding.
00:13:11.000 So if you want to bring it up and actually bring up the uh the volume, we can we can jump in here so that way we get a little bit of the the pre hit context.
00:13:23.000 The topics topic is obviously going to be the violence that the left is uh engaging in lately.
00:13:29.000 Yeah, still getting harassed.
00:13:32.000 Seeing Gavin mission.
00:13:33.000 I gotta Gavin miss some story to tell you guys.
00:13:35.000 So remind me after this.
00:13:36.000 I thought That was so uh irresponsible of him last night.
00:13:40.000 That conservative needed a police escort to leave campus.
00:13:45.000 Kimmel lost his job for four days, and they said free speech was under attack.
00:13:49.000 Charlie Kirk was killed for exercising free speech, and they said he had it coming.
00:13:54.000 They say we need more civil debate, and we need to be more civil.
00:13:58.000 So when we try to engage in civilized debate, they chase us off campus.
00:14:03.000 Now the freedom of the press is under attack.
00:14:05.000 But when it's conservative press, the media is silent.
00:14:09.000 Here's a reporter getting swarmed outside the UN.
00:14:13.000 Watch.
00:14:13.000 Like that Charlie Kirk.
00:14:15.000 Why would I say that?
00:14:16.000 Why would I say that?
00:14:18.000 No, he's not.
00:14:20.000 Oh, look at you.
00:14:23.000 Look at you.
00:14:24.000 He's not black women.
00:14:30.000 Hey, hey, stop it.
00:14:31.000 Stop it.
00:14:32.000 Yeah.
00:14:33.000 Yeah.
00:14:35.000 That looks civil.
00:14:37.000 Hillary says the rhetoric has to stop.
00:14:39.000 And we agree, but she says, not from her, from you.
00:14:43.000 We have got to stop demonizing each other.
00:14:46.000 Yeah.
00:14:46.000 Now, I think most of that right now in our country's history is coming.
00:14:51.000 You know, from the right.
00:14:52.000 You know, we have got to stop with the finger pointing and the scapegoating.
00:14:57.000 Hillary called half the country deplorables and irredeemable, despicable Neanderthals.
00:15:01.000 He needed to be deprogrammed.
00:15:03.000 And actually and have their first and second amendment stripped.
00:15:06.000 What is the right said about Hillary that Bill hasn't already said?
00:15:10.000 And it's not like men in MAGA hats are shooting up planned parenthoods and Hollywood celebrities or journalists or politicians.
00:15:17.000 No one on the right is acting on the language we're using.
00:15:20.000 On the left, they are.
00:15:23.000 And it's starting to feel like that's the Democrats' strategy.
00:15:27.000 Intimidate us into shutting our mouths.
00:15:30.000 They're using bullets to bully us into political submission.
00:15:33.000 It kind of feels like they know what they're doing.
00:15:37.000 Political violence has gotten out of control in this country.
00:15:40.000 We gotta stop it.
00:15:41.000 We gotta condemn it, and that starts, unfortunately, at the very top of the Democratic Party.
00:15:47.000 If you want to stop political violence, stop attacking our law enforcement as the Gestapo.
00:15:52.000 There you go.
00:15:52.000 If you want to stop political violence, stop telling your supporters that everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi.
00:16:00.000 If you want to stop political violence, look in the mirror.
00:16:03.000 Absolutely.
00:16:04.000 And if they're not gonna look in the mirror and stop triggering their crazies to shoot us, stab us, and blow up our cars, then we're gonna have to crack down.
00:16:13.000 We can't sit back and not defend ourselves.
00:16:16.000 It's open season on us.
00:16:18.000 And if we're not gonna save ourselves, who else are we gonna save?
00:16:23.000 Host of Tim Cast, Tim Poole joins me now.
00:16:26.000 How hot is it right out there now these days?
00:16:31.000 I've I've never received more death threats.
00:16:33.000 We uh I've also got very serious security where we do our show.
00:16:37.000 The threat level was so great.
00:16:39.000 My team instructed me not to travel.
00:16:41.000 I was unable to go to the memorial for Charlie Kirk.
00:16:44.000 But you know, Jesse, earlier just now you were mentioning the attacks that we've seen throughout the past weeks and months, but I want to make make sure this is clear as it pertains to Jimmy Kimmel.
00:16:52.000 The initial reporting was that advertisers and affiliates were upset.
00:16:56.000 Sinclair said they wanted to bring the temperature down.
00:16:58.000 None of that has changed.
00:16:59.000 Sinclair and next door are still saying they will preempt his show.
00:17:02.000 As far as we know, advertisers are still upset.
00:17:05.000 So what made the difference that brought his show back?
00:17:08.000 Well, this is a little bit of speculation, but there was a terror attack on an ABC affiliate in Sacramento by what is reported to be a Democrat who opened fire on the building.
00:17:17.000 And it's been reported by the New York Post that Sinclair pulled their Charlie Kirk memorial because of terroristic threats against ABC affiliates.
00:17:25.000 So I agree with you, it's open season on people who are standing up, speaking out or supporting Trump.
00:17:30.000 But the left is also attacking regular people to force their will.
00:17:34.000 And I think it's because they recognized Donald Trump won the popular vote.
00:17:38.000 Normal people have spoken, and they're not tolerating their strange policies that are destroying this country anymore.
00:17:44.000 I'm afraid an ice agent's gonna get shot.
00:17:46.000 I I'm afraid they're gonna shoot him in cold blood.
00:17:49.000 They're gonna put a gun right to his head, and that's what's next.
00:17:53.000 They're not gonna just sit on rooftops and fire rifles.
00:17:56.000 I feel like we're gonna see blood in the streets if this continues to go the Way it's going.
00:18:01.000 For sure.
00:18:02.000 I think we have, especially with Charlie Kirk.
00:18:05.000 It was horrifying.
00:18:06.000 And you know, I want to make a point because Jesse, I was watching the five earlier, and we hear this a lot from liberals that these studies show the right is more responsible.
00:18:14.000 But see, this is a trick.
00:18:15.000 I don't think you and I have any problem condemning some fringe white supremacist that has nothing to do with what we believe or what we support.
00:18:22.000 No one in the mainstream Republican Party is going to defend those guys.
00:18:26.000 But the person who shot Charlie Kirk, his ideology was so in line with the Democratic Party that AOC went on the floor of the House and denounced Charlie Kirk in much the same language.
00:18:37.000 This is what we are seeing from run-of-the-mill moderate Democrats.
00:18:40.000 That's actually what has me more concerned.
00:18:42.000 Yeah.
00:18:43.000 Yeah.
00:18:43.000 And the leadership says nothing.
00:18:45.000 Hakeem's out to lunch, Pelosi's out to lunch, Schumer doesn't even know what's going on.
00:18:49.000 And that's the real problem because the crazies have now taken over.
00:18:53.000 All right, Tim, stay safe.
00:18:55.000 Good to talk to you.
00:18:56.000 You know, to just bring in Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
00:18:59.000 I don't think that I agree that the leaders are out to lunch.
00:19:04.000 I think the leadership has changed.
00:19:05.000 The people that are actually setting the tone for the left or for the Democrats now, they are people like Ilhan Omar.
00:19:11.000 They are people like – And the old leaders are afraid of those people.
00:19:15.000 Yeah.
00:19:16.000 Absolutely.
00:19:16.000 They're they're deathly afraid of the followers of those people.
00:19:20.000 And so they they've been usurped.
00:19:22.000 I agree with you totally.
00:19:23.000 All right.
00:19:24.000 Tim Poole in the house.
00:19:27.000 Yeah, it's magic.
00:19:28.000 It was a time warp.
00:19:30.000 What are you guys talking about?
00:19:31.000 Shout out to Jesse Waters.
00:19:32.000 Talking about video game.
00:19:33.000 No, we're just talking about you actually, and kind of following up with the conversation.
00:19:37.000 It's getting warm in here.
00:19:37.000 I'm gonna turn it off.
00:19:38.000 Yeah, it's fine.
00:19:39.000 I was my neck was cold.
00:19:40.000 Um have you unmuted this?
00:19:42.000 Where were we at at this point?
00:19:43.000 Oh, talking about the leadership in the Democratic Party, and the actually maybe the real leadership is the youth of the Democratic Party.
00:19:49.000 AOC in the squad and the Ilhan O'March.
00:19:52.000 With with uh AOC reported to want to run for president in 2028.
00:19:56.000 Because the the point I was just making to uh Jesse Waters, uh that I've made on the show before.
00:20:02.000 I don't I don't care to denounce, you see, I'm running some fringe white supremacist guy.
00:20:07.000 Like we all will denounce that.
00:20:08.000 Nobody wants to support that.
00:20:10.000 But AOC goes on the House floor and condemns Charlie Kirk and spreads those lies, the same lies that motivated the shooter, as far as we know.
00:20:17.000 Yeah, she absolutely did.
00:20:21.000 The common sense center of the right is not labeling even the common the the left, uh the far left or the or the even the middle left with the same kind of vitriol that we're hearing coming back at us.
00:20:34.000 We're not.
00:20:35.000 We're like, hey, do you have different ideas?
00:20:37.000 Do you have different goals?
00:20:39.000 Let's talk.
00:20:40.000 Are you socialists?
00:20:41.000 Let's talk about your socialism and why we think it doesn't work.
00:20:44.000 Well, we're not calling you an existential threat, and we're not calling you, you know, uh killers or something, ex and unless you start ki continuing to call us Gestapo and Nazis, which is encouraging the fringe nihilists to start shooting at us.
00:21:01.000 You know, one thing during Biden's reign, um, no one on this show referred to him as Hitler.
00:21:06.000 What they were doing with Twitter, especially the fascist regime affecting and controlling the corporate media.
00:21:12.000 We still didn't fall back on ad hominem attacks and likening him to a terrorist threat.
00:21:16.000 It was just like, look, we're gonna create better leadership and we're gonna change this.
00:21:20.000 The closest I can think of that is when he gave that speech with the all red background.
00:21:24.000 Yeah.
00:21:25.000 Even then it was authoritarian.
00:21:27.000 There were comments.
00:21:31.000 The right stopped short of actually calling him a fascist or or at least of of Nazi or something like that.
00:21:37.000 Maybe there were people that said fascist, but y that that was a little and that was a little hyperbolic.
00:21:42.000 It's weird imagery that didn't make sense.
00:21:43.000 But like we don't even know what to call somebody when we're being called fascist.
00:21:47.000 What's the opposite?
00:21:48.000 Uh I think there is a segment of the right, especially after what happened to Charlie Kirk, where they're they're using the term demonic and they're referring to that, you know, there is that labeling of their views as demonic, and that was all in the wake of what happened to Charlie Kirk, and that would be the closest I can think of on the right is their label for those on the other side.
00:22:06.000 Probably the difference is we might you know my father and my father-in-law fought in World War II, fought against Nazis, fought against, you know, I I knew somebody who was one of the first guys into Auschwitz.
00:22:18.000 So that's real evil.
00:22:21.000 And yeah, we have to have organized ways of of fighting real evil.
00:22:26.000 But when it comes to spiritual evil, we're talking about a spiritual battle.
00:22:29.000 So we're not using guns to fight a spiritual battle, but coming back at us now is this actual kinetic weaponry.
00:22:36.000 It's it is it's our culture, it's what we believe, it's how we see the world.
00:22:39.000 Yeah.
00:22:39.000 You know, there was one interesting thing.
00:22:41.000 You know, when you when you go on these shows, shout out to Jesse and Fox.
00:22:44.000 You only get a couple minutes, right?
00:22:45.000 It's like one or two questions.
00:22:46.000 I think the last time I went on, I just talked for like four minutes and then he jumps in.
00:22:50.000 But he he made this point uh uh earlier in his opening that on the left they're saying, we're at war, we're at war.
00:22:56.000 And you know, we have to fight and do whatever we have to do to win that war.
00:22:59.000 Uh the right's saying that too.
00:23:01.000 I I think it's absolutely fine.
00:23:02.000 There's gonna be a lot of liberals and they're gonna say, Oh, yeah, well, Alex Jones was saying that shit, just that.
00:23:06.000 And I'll say, indeed he was.
00:23:08.000 But I want to make this clear.
00:23:10.000 We didn't start a war.
00:23:12.000 I didn't.
00:23:13.000 No.
00:23:13.000 Uh uh when they censored me and silenced me, when they accused me of lies and tried to smear me to my own friends and family, and then when they showed up to events that I was putting on and threatened to burn down theaters, I never went anywhere near these people.
00:23:28.000 We tried having a an event in uh I think it's Pittman, New Jersey, and far leftists, anti-fail line threatened to burn the theater down.
00:23:36.000 And so it we had planned it for nine months, two weeks out, they cancel on us.
00:23:41.000 And he tells us to screw herself, uh screw ourselves, we'll see us, we'll see him.
00:23:44.000 He's like, I don't I don't care.
00:23:45.000 Nothing, nothing you say will change the fact they're gonna burn my theater down.
00:23:48.000 He's like, You can sue me for everything, but I'd lose my theater uh uh either either way.
00:23:52.000 I did not go to an Antifa club and threaten them.
00:23:55.000 Yeah, they attacked me.
00:23:56.000 Yeah.
00:23:56.000 And so it's fascinating to see that we vote, we win, they attack.
00:24:02.000 We vote, we lose, they attack.
00:24:05.000 We vote, we win, they attack again, all the while saying they are at war with us.
00:24:10.000 And now you are getting people on the right saying it's time to wake up, they are trying to destroy us.
00:24:15.000 And that was a was a huge wake-up call with Charlie Kirk.
00:24:19.000 But I but I do think Jimmy Kimmel should be a very serious wake-up call for everybody in that a a according to the reporting, there's a Democrat aligned individual, a liberal who shot up an ABC station and several other afflates received terroristic threats over the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, and they gave him his show back.
00:24:38.000 Yeah.
00:24:38.000 ABC said we're more we're we're more scared of the terror from the left than the concerns from the right.
00:24:44.000 They also lost two percent of their their value.
00:24:47.000 Disney lost two percent stock value at four billion.
00:24:49.000 Is it really three point eight billion dollars?
00:24:51.000 Amazon lost more.
00:24:52.000 Oh, the stock markets, basically.
00:24:54.000 So th again, we are we are we are dealing with an unrepentant force.
00:24:59.000 Okay, they are going on acts and saying, haha, we did it, boys.
00:25:02.000 Disney just lost three billion dollars.
00:25:04.000 They did not lose three billion dollars.
00:25:06.000 There's an estimated loss of around two to three billion market share from the dip of two percent.
00:25:10.000 But if you track the stock market like any sane person, you'll see Amazon dipped more.
00:25:14.000 This is my there's no indication that Jimmy Kimmel, a single show on Disney, caused the entirety of the Disney corporation, which owns Marvel and Star Wars to decline.
00:25:24.000 It's the lie they use to justify when the show comes back on the air after a literal terror attack, they then go, it's because we cost them money.
00:25:32.000 I've been thinking about because you're saying kinetic warfare of guns and spiritual warfare, and like how do you how do you do this?
00:25:38.000 So I'm thinking you need to forgive your enemies.
00:25:40.000 I know this sounds very weird, but in the metaphor of if you're being attacked over and over and you're like, stop, please stop, and they don't, and you're like, listen, my military is so much you have no idea the hell that will be rained upon you if you keep doing this.
00:25:53.000 Please stop.
00:25:54.000 And they don't.
00:25:55.000 I forgive you for not knowing what you're doing, but I will still issue whatever it takes to stop that threat.
00:26:00.000 Define retribution.
00:26:01.000 Yeah.
00:26:02.000 And I don't I don't hold any hatred for those people because they didn't know any of them.
00:26:07.000 But he's he's correct.
00:26:07.000 Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna say.
00:26:09.000 To to your point, that's exactly what we're calling for.
00:26:11.000 We want the power, we want the government to use its authority to stop this behavior.
00:26:18.000 Let me let me so by the way, the government is the place that has the authority to do it, and and that is something we're depending upon.
00:26:24.000 Uh so that's not the spiritual warfare.
00:26:27.000 The government is not spiritual, it doesn't have to do a spiritual thing.
00:26:30.000 That's that's where the Bible is set up, the government as the authority that can do this.
00:26:34.000 To Ian's point, there's a lot of people in the chat saying he's wrong, but he is completely correct.
00:26:38.000 And I believe that there was someone on X who made a great quote that Jesus forgave the thief on the cross, but he did not save his life.
00:26:45.000 The point is, Ian is making a great point.
00:26:48.000 We are not the ones who hold hatred in our hearts and look at them and just say, you know what, I don't care anymore, I just hate you.
00:26:54.000 We are the ones who say, forgive them for they know not what they do, and now round them up, arrest them.
00:26:59.000 These are criminals.
00:27:00.000 Forgive does not mean to just let them run roughshot over the country and destroy everything we love.
00:27:04.000 It means that we don't we won't let ourselves be blinded by hatred.
00:27:08.000 We will think logically and clearly, and we will build a better union in society.
00:27:11.000 I I agree with Ian on this one.
00:27:13.000 Yeah.
00:27:14.000 It absolutely means use all available legal and lawful authority to stop these violent terrorists and their threats.
00:27:22.000 Just don't hold hate.
00:27:23.000 That's that's gonna blind you, it's gonna confuse you, it's gonna disrupt your logic, it's bad for strategy.
00:27:28.000 And that's the funny thing too about the forgive then they know uh for they're not what they do is there's more than just the noble of I am gonna be a better person and and I'm gonna remove that hatred from myself, but I'm not gonna spare you.
00:27:40.000 There's also the functional, the scientific, that when you are enraged, you don't think clearly.
00:27:45.000 Yeah.
00:27:46.000 So we need to approach this project uh problem logically.
00:27:48.000 That's why after Charlie Kirk was killed, and and I, uh tear stricken from seeing this, still said cooler heads must prevail.
00:27:56.000 Right.
00:27:56.000 We need to stop, pause, make sure there's no immediate reaction, keep calm, and then assess what the problem is and how to solve it.
00:28:03.000 And I think that is now, especially with this morning, the terror, the terror attack this morning.
00:28:08.000 I don't believe that we are looking at a simple solution.
00:28:12.000 The Trump administration declaring anti-fa terrorist organization is good.
00:28:17.000 He's apparently going to have another executive order targeting leftist organizations that are funding these things.
00:28:21.000 I believe they should do all of that.
00:28:22.000 However, I also believe that will escalate the left that will push them, they will get angrier.
00:28:28.000 But that is no excuse because the alternative is to let them burn everything down.
00:28:31.000 After we decide we will use the legal means to stop terrorism.
00:28:36.000 I mean, a man opened fire indiscriminately on a vehicle, and that's how two detainees uh ended up dying.
00:28:44.000 Yeah, and and the and the liberals are using that as though uh he must be right wing.
00:28:47.000 No, no, he was insane.
00:28:49.000 He hated the right, he heard all of the rhetoric from the left.
00:28:52.000 We need to stop these people with every legal tool we have, and we will be calm and collected about it and stern.
00:28:58.000 And as they kick and scream like demons and banshees, we will not be moved.
00:29:02.000 We will say the job must be done, off to jail you go.
00:29:05.000 And regarding this using every legal means, this is I kind of brought this up before the show.
00:29:09.000 I think about using evil to create order.
00:29:12.000 And sometimes you have your alignment, maybe you're 70 out of 100 good.
00:29:16.000 If you do some evil, it's gonna drop your alignment by 10 points.
00:29:19.000 But it may raise your order by 20 points.
00:29:22.000 And it we have to discuss openly about what evil we're willing to see and allow to happen.
00:29:27.000 None because well, many people will say I'm only good, I'm only orderly, nothing.
00:29:31.000 And then they turn a blind eye to the real evil because war itself is killing humans to create order.
00:29:36.000 There is an evil act to create order, and there's a net benefit, ideally.
00:29:39.000 Killing humans is not always evil.
00:29:41.000 Yeah, well, I think.
00:29:42.000 I think your definition of evil is is problematic.
00:29:45.000 Um so even even the Bible says thou shalt not kill, and kill implies the term murder.
00:29:52.000 Uh if you're killing, if you have to kill to prevent a death of an innocent or self-defense, the Bible says that's fine.
00:30:00.000 And it's not an evil.
00:30:02.000 Now, in the big picture, let me just complete this.
00:30:05.000 In the big picture, evil is in the world because man defied God.
00:30:10.000 And so we have to turn back to God.
00:30:13.000 But we're in the kingdom of Cain.
00:30:16.000 This is where brother kills brother.
00:30:17.000 This is the result of the fall.
00:30:19.000 So if in the in that big picture, any sort of death is the result of evil, but uh, it's not an evil act to defend the end.
00:30:28.000 The way I see is like murder is will drop your alignment to zero.
00:30:32.000 That is, do not ever, if we become permanent evil or permanent chaos, we lose.
00:30:35.000 Do not murder.
00:30:36.000 But killing in combat, it aligns with society.
00:30:39.000 It's called alignment because we know that's their job.
00:30:42.000 So it it is evil, but it's not that evil.
00:30:44.000 But it's like killing is literally it's not that that's murder is no murder is evil.
00:30:50.000 I mean, no, listen, the there's a diff there's a different word in the Bible for murder and kill.
00:30:56.000 Yeah, murder is evil, killing is not evil.
00:30:59.000 I'm gonna I'm gonna speak.
00:31:01.000 Guys, guys, I gotta speak video game to Ian.
00:31:03.000 Gotta speak video game to you.
00:31:04.000 Please think when the guys are red, when they're when their names are in red, your alignment doesn't have to be a good thing.
00:31:08.000 No, you don't because the rest of the human condition knows that what you're doing is righteous.
00:31:12.000 It's like if you're killing wolves.
00:31:14.000 Let me let me explain, right?
00:31:15.000 I you guys are speaking in biblical terms.
00:31:16.000 Ian's speaking speaking dungeons and dragons, and I understand the point he's trying to make, but it doesn't apply to real life.
00:31:21.000 And the the analogy that I'll use is uh we'll use Skyrim, for example.
00:31:25.000 If the person's name is green and you attack them, your alignment goes down.
00:31:28.000 If the person's name is red, you you nothing.
00:31:32.000 There's There's no change.
00:31:33.000 It's it's the and to bring it to reality for the sake of what your argument is.
00:31:38.000 If someone is evil, they are acting to destroy to harm others for there's a variety of reasons that they do this.
00:31:45.000 Stopping them is good.
00:31:46.000 Well, look at it.
00:31:47.000 It's lamentable.
00:31:48.000 We don't want people to die, but it's not evil to stop an evil person.
00:31:52.000 It is just something we genuinely try to avoid do that let me let me just say this about the modern culture war and where we are.
00:31:59.000 What we would describe as the right the whole time has been making the argument we can never be evil.
00:32:04.000 And what do you see?
00:32:05.000 Viral videos that are going viral right now, especially in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder, of people on the right at various rallies being mercilessly beaten and not fighting back.
00:32:16.000 There's uh Andy Noah is as a really great example.
00:32:19.000 When he was in Portland and he's drenched in milkshake and bleeding from the ears, disoriented, he is not fighting anyone.
00:32:26.000 He is simply trying to walk away.
00:32:28.000 And that is a problem because evil triumphs when good men do nothing.
00:32:33.000 But it and now the attitude has changed.
00:32:36.000 And it's changed for for one big reason.
00:32:39.000 This right that we call it, which I don't even know if it makes sense.
00:32:42.000 Yeah.
00:32:42.000 Call it America, whatever.
00:32:44.000 Said we still will not go and attack leftists, go to their place of worship or business, whatever it may be, their DEI offices.
00:32:51.000 They said, We're going to vote.
00:32:53.000 We vote for you, Donald Trump.
00:32:55.000 Please use the legal lawful authority for which all of the people of our country have agreed upon to exercise that authority against those who would transgress upon us.
00:33:02.000 And he is now, and and now we are saying, bring it on.
00:33:06.000 But the thing about evil is it's how how it aligns with the rest of people seeing the action.
00:33:10.000 If people feel and think that it's evil, and 99% of the world thinks it's evil, then it is according to alignment.
00:33:17.000 That's why they call it alignment.
00:33:18.000 It's how aligned are you with the rest of us.
00:33:20.000 You're talking about the perspective of people.
00:33:21.000 You're not addressing the fact whether it is or it isn't.
00:33:24.000 You're talking about how it's perceived by other people.
00:33:26.000 They have been manipulating your ability to act based on how they will per uh portray it to the rest of the world.
00:33:33.000 Like he said with Andy No, if Andy No doesn't attack back, they can't label him as an as somebody attacking other people.
00:33:39.000 So for a long time, the right has had to tie their hands behind their back and not let themselves at let themselves act, excuse me, because of the fact that the media would paint them in a certain way.
00:33:49.000 Now we live in the age of the internet and social media, and the information makes it to people much quicker without the bend from the media telling you what this act was from another person.
00:33:59.000 This is a great point because what would happen is if Andy No did swing back, they would edit the video to remove the attack on him and say Andy No attacks people.
00:34:07.000 The difference is now Trump won the popular vote, and regular people have the confidence to say, enough.
00:34:14.000 We are not the minority anymore.
00:34:16.000 And so what's happening now is in the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing, in the wake of the a terror attack on ABC, and now this morning's terror attack.
00:34:25.000 I mean, the dam is breaking the right is saying, Trump, get the get the feds, get law enforcement.
00:34:31.000 If this doesn't stop here, it will only get worse.
00:34:35.000 They were doing it the other day with the lady who got in the face of the ice officer, right?
00:34:39.000 And they were like, look at what this guy did to this poor woman.
00:34:42.000 Except for the fact was when you look at the whole video, she got in his face, they removed her, she came back, got into his face again, and went back again.
00:34:49.000 They understand that they will be able to clip that video, portray that guy who works for ICE a specific way, and it doesn't matter if what their followers believe is true, if it is not actually true.
00:35:01.000 If you're acting in good faith, if you are doing the right thing, it doesn't matter if what they are showing you is bent and wrong and manipulated.
00:35:11.000 What matters is that you acted in good faith, you did the right thing, and the whole video is there for people to find, but they have to be go willing to go out and find that video.
00:35:20.000 They have to be willing to seek the truth of the matter.
00:35:23.000 If you're talking about people who aren't looking to seek the truth of the matter, especially in politics, it's a lost cause because most people aren't.
00:35:29.000 Most people are going out there, they're looking for videos and narratives that reinforce their view of the world.
00:35:35.000 You cannot act as if everything you're doing is to try and change their mind.
00:35:40.000 You can't change their mind.
00:35:41.000 You simply have to act properly.
00:35:43.000 There's something you said.
00:35:44.000 This is the function of government.
00:35:46.000 The prime reason that we have government is so that we normal people don't have to try to create order for ourselves.
00:35:54.000 We we give that right to the the government, and it needs to create order and it needs to create safety, but to be real order and real safety, and then laws can follow from that.
00:36:04.000 But we have nothing, laws mean nothing without actual order and safety.
00:36:08.000 This is orders for order for ourselves.
00:36:10.000 That's what I mean.
00:36:10.000 When I mean that's we're using the government.
00:36:12.000 We're not doing it.
00:36:13.000 We're not taking our own guns and going out and starting this.
00:36:16.000 Here's here's the here's the principal philosophical challenge that we face as a nation is that we are good people.
00:36:22.000 And that's a fact.
00:36:23.000 You look around the world.
00:36:24.000 What we as a nation have said, going back to our founding fathers, and even before then is to be fair to everyone, we will write down what we expect of you and give you a chance to review this.
00:36:35.000 And even in the instance you infringe upon the rules we have agreed to create, we will still give you a chance.
00:36:41.000 We have given every opportunity to the the antagonists of our way of life.
00:36:47.000 And so the issue now is laws don't matter.
00:36:51.000 We talked about this last night on the members only portion of the show.
00:36:54.000 So join our Discord server at Timcast.com where someone someone said they were libertarian and they think we should get rid of the Civil Rights Act.
00:37:00.000 And I said, it literally doesn't matter if we do or do not have the Civil Rights Act.
00:37:04.000 The Civil Rights Act was created because our country was bifurcated.
00:37:08.000 And so they said, we're voting.
00:37:10.000 They voted.
00:37:11.000 Okay, here are the rules.
00:37:12.000 Many in the in in southern states still didn't want to comply with it.
00:37:16.000 National Guard got called in and said, you will comply, and they used force.
00:37:19.000 In a society where everyone agrees, you you need not any laws.
00:37:23.000 You don't need any.
00:37:24.000 Imagine if every single person was I was identical in their worldview and belief, there'd be no theft.
00:37:30.000 There'd be no murder.
00:37:31.000 And there would be no need for police because nobody would agree upon somebody else.
00:37:34.000 Maybe courts, because sometimes people disagree and they have arguments, and so you need civil matters.
00:37:39.000 But we don't live in that society.
00:37:40.000 And so the problem right now is as we talk about the laws we want enforced.
00:37:45.000 The people of the United States need to recognize we are not in this, as the Democrats called it, war with Americans.
00:37:54.000 We are a constitutional republic of the United States in a conflict with a multicultural democracy of the United States.
00:38:00.000 And that's a quote.
00:38:06.000 He said, There are two nations occupying the borders of the U.S. constitutional republic and multicultural democracy.
00:38:12.000 And he said he was for the multicultural democracy.
00:38:14.000 And I said, fair point.
00:38:16.000 I'm from the const I'm for the constitutional republic.
00:38:18.000 In which case you can now recognize the distinction in this conflict.
00:38:21.000 The multicultural democracy doesn't care what our laws are.
00:38:25.000 We are we are a separate entity.
00:38:27.000 That's why they simultaneously argued that Charlie Kirk should have been jailed for his speech, and Jimmy Kimmel is a martyr for free speech.
00:38:34.000 What they're really saying is, you are not us.
00:38:37.000 So I just went on uh Jesse Waters' show and he played all of these clips about ICE agents, masked thugs, kidnapping people.
00:38:44.000 Gavin Newsom going on uh was on Colbert the other day, saying, masked men, jumping out, disappearing people, members of our community.
00:38:51.000 And I said, illegal immigrants aren't members of our community, but you see the distinction.
00:38:58.000 When we vote in this country, our Congress, our courts, our laws, our representatives, they all agree to the terms that we have drafted, and that is illegal immigration is a crime for which you can be deported.
00:39:09.000 The multicultural democracy of this country, Zoran Mamdani, a good example running for office, says we must protect our people from ice.
00:39:18.000 Right.
00:39:18.000 What does that mean?
00:39:20.000 I beg of people to understand this philosophical and functional distinction.
00:39:25.000 When I say something like, um I'm a I'm a guitar player, you're a piano player.
00:39:32.000 When I say we must guitar players come together and destroy the piano players, why would you ever think I was including you as a guitar player?
00:39:43.000 There's a clear distinction as to who we each are, and we are different.
00:39:45.000 So when Zoran Mamdani says our people must be protected, he is telling you, the American voter, you are outside of his community.
00:39:54.000 Your votes are meaningless to him.
00:39:56.000 Your whims, your wills, your laws, meaningless to him.
00:39:59.000 When you elect Donald Trump and he wins the popular vote, and you say, please, Mr. President, illegal immigration is a very large concern for the American people.
00:40:08.000 Zoran Mamdanny looks your way and says to you, you are not one of us, and we will do everything we can to stop you.
00:40:16.000 And to this is the distinction.
00:40:18.000 To your point, that's the distinction they're making when they say our democracy.
00:40:22.000 They're not talking about the United States.
00:40:24.000 They're talking about the Democrats and people that align with them.
00:40:27.000 Because they've already made the distinction by saying they are fascists.
00:40:31.000 They are trying to destroy our democracy.
00:40:34.000 Right.
00:40:34.000 The people that they that they point at and claim are fascists, those people are not part of the city.
00:40:40.000 I want to say one one quick thing before we jump to the next story.
00:40:42.000 I just want to I just want to help people as best as I can give you the the the context clues.
00:40:47.000 They burn the American flag.
00:40:49.000 Right.
00:40:49.000 They fly a unique flag called the progress pride flag.
00:40:53.000 They say our democracy.
00:40:55.000 They say you are a threat to our democracy.
00:40:58.000 They say we are at war with you.
00:41:00.000 I did not ask for this.
00:41:01.000 I begged for it to stop every step of the way.
00:41:03.000 They lie.
00:41:04.000 They say that I'm far right.
00:41:06.000 They say Ian is far right.
00:41:08.000 He's moon lord.
00:41:10.000 It's because we exist outside of their community.
00:41:12.000 Now, don't get me wrong.
00:41:14.000 I don't blame them.
00:41:15.000 But they are a chaotic force that has grown within the United States that seeks to upend and defy the United States.
00:41:21.000 They mock our history.
00:41:22.000 They destroy our statues.
00:41:24.000 They rename our military bases and our streets.
00:41:27.000 They have tried to kill the president.
00:41:28.000 They have killed our most prominent political leader, young leader in Charlie Kirk.
00:41:33.000 They shot up a news station because they took their high priest off the air.
00:41:38.000 I don't understand what else people need to hear to understand we are not talking about roommates in a single house.
00:41:46.000 You are not having a disagreement with your brother anymore.
00:41:48.000 And I hate to say this because people are going to say it's acceleration or whatever, but there is a reality here.
00:41:52.000 There is someone outside of your home banging on the door.
00:41:56.000 They are saying, I can do what I want to you.
00:41:58.000 And the question is, are you going to open the door and let them, or are you going to ask the police through lawful means, please make this person stop?
00:42:05.000 That's where we're at, right we are at right now.
00:42:07.000 This multicultural democracy seeks to upend and destroy.
00:42:10.000 We have called the police, Donald Trump, and said, please start arresting these people.
00:42:14.000 And guess what?
00:42:15.000 Surprise, surprise.
00:42:16.000 The criminals often shoot back.
00:42:18.000 Yeah.
00:42:18.000 One of the, I just want to, for you young guys, who here remembers when uh Clinton uh was inaugurated.
00:42:26.000 I do.
00:42:26.000 Okay.
00:42:27.000 Vaguely.
00:42:29.000 I'm 50.
00:42:30.000 I I remember watching this in horror, not because he was inaugurated.
00:42:34.000 It was like, okay, here's our new president.
00:42:37.000 I there was an actor who I forget his name, but he was watching the celebration, and the jets flew over.
00:42:43.000 The blue angels flew over, and this guy was interviewed, and he goes, you know, I looked up in the sky and I saw those military planes, and I thought, those are our planes now.
00:42:54.000 Yep.
00:42:55.000 There it is.
00:42:56.000 It's like it's like, no, dude, these were always our planes.
00:43:00.000 Our military, our police, this is what we're together, even though we have different parties, it's still us.
00:43:06.000 And that was one of the first times I saw this real distinction of even Michelle Obama saying, I'm finally proud of our country, uh, when her husband was nominated or elected, I forget which one it was.
00:43:19.000 And it's like, but it's like it this use of our country is excluding half of the world.
00:43:26.000 The basis of communism is we are all in this together until you get it, and then one guy's on the top.
00:43:30.000 Yes, let me let me just same age old crap.
00:43:32.000 Let me let me ask you guys, uh, also remembering the Iraq war, for instance, or even the more modern conflicts we've seen against ISIS.
00:43:38.000 Uh how often do we in this country publicly high profile among all of our political pundits and politicians lament the extrajudicial killings of people in a foreign land.
00:43:51.000 Abdul Rahman Alalaki, who I love to bring up, was murdered by Barack Obama.
00:43:58.000 I uh uh he with with drones, he uh his administration claimed that they were targeting someone else.
00:44:02.000 It was an accident that they blew up a civilian restaurant in a country we are not at war with, killing a 16-year-old American citizen.
00:44:09.000 No one at the highest level of government, politics, media at the time cared at all that a child was murdered by our president.
00:44:18.000 Why is that?
00:44:18.000 Because it was legal.
00:44:19.000 Because it was our president.
00:44:20.000 Well, it was legal because it was us who did it.
00:44:23.000 It was legal.
00:44:23.000 And and and that that's that the that's not the issue.
00:44:26.000 They don't care that it was legal.
00:44:27.000 They care that Obama did it.
00:44:28.000 It wasn't legal.
00:44:29.000 No, no, no, no, no.
00:44:30.000 Guys, guys.
00:44:34.000 The reason is the United States was not aggrieved by this.
00:44:38.000 We, the United States, can bomb and blow up whoever we want, and these and the bulk of our country will not flinch about it.
00:44:46.000 Those Venezuelan boats, three of them.
00:44:47.000 Now the Democrats are complaining about that because Trump is doing it, and that explains the difference that we're facing.
00:44:52.000 It is not us anymore.
00:44:54.000 And that's exactly the point.
00:44:55.000 So I appreciate you bring that you bring that up.
00:44:57.000 When Barack Obama blows up somebody, this country largely just went, you know.
00:45:04.000 I mean, the the debate was over the legality of the killing of Solomaney in terms of will it start a war, not with someone murdered without due process.
00:45:11.000 No one in this country, and I don't I don't mean literally no one, obviously the libertarians, anti-war groups, they care about this.
00:45:16.000 At the highest levels of politics, personality, TV, and government, they don't say, What about a criminal trial for that ISIS terrorist we just bombed?
00:45:26.000 Because they are not us.
00:45:28.000 Right.
00:45:28.000 Understand that perspective.
00:45:30.000 Now imagine you are an external force trying to destroy America.
00:45:34.000 Apply that to how Democrats have been behaving with the assassination of Charlie Kirk cheering it on, and you will understand that same feeling.
00:45:43.000 It's a con it's either indifference or celebration.
00:45:46.000 And you take a look at how the United States dealt with war over the past 20 years.
00:45:50.000 And for most people, the bombings in Afghanistan, Iraq or otherwise, were indifference or celebration.
00:45:56.000 The killing of Saddam Hussein among Americans, largely indifference.
00:46:00.000 Then after that, celebration.
00:46:02.000 Take a look at what Democrats did with Charlie Kirk.
00:46:05.000 At first, celebration.
00:46:08.000 Largely indifference.
00:46:09.000 After that, saying, Well, look, I know it's wrong, but you know, he deserved it for this reason.
00:46:12.000 Only when pressed and facing a real threat are they trying to put on a PR face.
00:46:17.000 But with that being said, I do want to pull up this story from Mediaite.
00:46:20.000 Charlie Kirk's producer torches unrepentant liar Jimmy Kimmel over his comeback monologue.
00:46:27.000 My friends, this is actually astounding.
00:46:30.000 Jimmy Kimmel did not apologize.
00:46:32.000 In fact, I would describe it as tripling or quadrupling down.
00:46:36.000 And the reason why is it's a 28-minute monologue where he doesn't apologize.
00:46:41.000 He attacks Trump.
00:46:42.000 He insults me, he insults you.
00:46:45.000 He claims that the only issue, or I should say that he ex he he accentuates a particular issue as if to imply once again, that the reason he was taken down was because Trump can't take a joke.
00:46:57.000 The president of the United States made it very clear he wants to see me and the hundreds of people who work here fired from our jobs.
00:47:05.000 Our leader celebrates Americans losing their livelihoods because he can't take a joke.
00:47:11.000 He will somehow able to squeeze Colbert out of CBS.
00:47:19.000 Then he turned his sights on me, and now he's openly rooting for MBC to fire Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers and the hundreds of Americans who work for their shows who don't make millions of dollars.
00:47:31.000 And I hope that if that happens, or if there's even any hint of that happening, you will be ten times as loud as you were this week.
00:47:39.000 We have to speak out of against it.
00:47:42.000 He did not apologize.
00:47:44.000 He could have, and it would have been very easy, but he won't.
00:47:48.000 And the the point that I brought up, I brought this up when I was on Jesse just a moment ago.
00:47:52.000 The only thing that we can discern as to why Disney brought him back, the affiliates, even just before uh we went live, Next Star said, nah, we ain't bringing him back.
00:48:01.000 I couldn't even watch it last night.
00:48:03.000 I was I was in bed.
00:48:05.000 I pulled up uh first I tried YouTube TV.
00:48:07.000 Nope, because Sinclair owns the the streaming rights, just all broadcasting streaming rights are combined.
00:48:13.000 And so I tried all the streaming services.
00:48:16.000 I even tried going to ABC's website and it's got a lock symbol on it.
00:48:20.000 It wouldn't let me do it.
00:48:21.000 I had to wait until someone else watched it and re-uploaded it because it's shut down.
00:48:25.000 Advertisers are still upset.
00:48:27.000 Sinclair says the temperature's not brought down, and now the tensions are inflamed.
00:48:31.000 So why did ABC bring him back?
00:48:33.000 Well, I said it the other day, I'll say it again.
00:48:35.000 A guy shot up one of their stations.
00:48:37.000 And so, like terrified individuals in the crossfire, they said, Jimmy, we'll do anything you say.
00:48:43.000 How did Jimmy respond?
00:48:44.000 It's Trump who was coming after me.
00:48:47.000 Trump did this without an apology.
00:48:50.000 He didn't, you know, you know what he could have said?
00:48:52.000 And this is what's really terrifying.
00:48:54.000 He could have simply said to those who felt I was implying the shooter was a Trump supporter.
00:49:00.000 I did not mean to do that, and for that I apologize.
00:49:03.000 He kind of did.
00:49:04.000 He didn't say the word I'm sorry, but people, false prophets, they'll use words that without the emotion, without the meaning behind it.
00:49:11.000 You can say I'm sorry and not mean it.
00:49:13.000 He cried on camera for like he does that all the time.
00:49:16.000 I mean, it was pretty.
00:49:17.000 We could play it and let people decide for themselves.
00:49:20.000 Ian, with all due respect, I hear what you're saying.
00:49:22.000 Um Marty, are you married?
00:49:25.000 Yeah.
00:49:26.000 Uh have you ever gotten to an argument with your wife?
00:49:28.000 No, never.
00:49:29.000 When when you're in an argument with her and she's mad at you for something you did and you know you did something wrong.
00:49:35.000 Yeah.
00:49:35.000 What do you think would happen if you looked at her and said, I understand?
00:49:39.000 Um it depends on everybody listening right now is looking at their wives going, like, right.
00:49:46.000 Yeah.
00:49:46.000 When when you do wrong and it's not about your just your wife, but your husband or you're in an argument with someone and you know you did wrong and they're upset at you for it.
00:49:55.000 And instead of saying, look, I'm sorry, you just go, I understand why you're mad.
00:49:59.000 Worse than that's similar to saying uh I'm sorry you feel that way.
00:50:04.000 Exactly.
00:50:05.000 Which has got to be the worst thing you could ever do in an argument.
00:50:09.000 Right.
00:50:09.000 You know, that's what that's that's essentially what I think Jimmy Kimmel did last night is he's like, I'm sorry that people feel this way.
00:50:14.000 But he he lied again.
00:50:15.000 No, he lied.
00:50:16.000 He's not because the issue was not Trump being mad, it was that the broad the the affiliates of the advertisers felt the heat from everyone in this country who said, A man just died.
00:50:26.000 Can you please not?
00:50:27.000 And Jimmy said, I'm gonna use this to go after Trump and get millions of views.
00:50:31.000 You know, I think a real apology.
00:50:32.000 You said words can be facetious, but is is just to be a better person is to not make the mistake again.
00:50:38.000 That's a real apology.
00:50:40.000 They're not capable of that with what they do.
00:50:42.000 They're not.
00:50:43.000 He's not capable th there's too much money to be made in the monologues that covered this.
00:50:47.000 The ratings that have plummeted on these shows, which of course are now up again because of all of this controversy, they have made their entire market share for these late night shows about Trump.
00:50:58.000 We were talking last week, like what would it be if these guys just came out and did monologues?
00:51:02.000 Look, there's news every day that you can make stuff about.
00:51:04.000 There's actual content creators who are covering this stuff.
00:51:07.000 Did you see the horrible joke that Robert De Niro made about the Tylenol and the autism?
00:51:12.000 That was not it was just really bad in this monologue.
00:51:15.000 Well, he does the thing where Robert De Niro plays the FCC chair, right?
00:51:18.000 And the problem is when you're politically brained and you and you have a side that you've picked and you don't have any understanding of how people perceive current events, you can't be funny, especially when you're running it through 100 writers and has to go through legal and all these things.
00:51:32.000 It's the other reason he lied, and that you know that it was a lie because it was weasel words, because that what he said last week when he says that they were trying to paint the shooter as anything other than MAGA, that passed through a hundred writers in a legal department before it came out, and it was phrased in a way to give them some sort of plausible deniability.
00:51:50.000 He didn't retract that statement, which is the only statement that we were complaining about.
00:51:54.000 Plus, but here's my other thing is if Trump is such an authoritarian and he doubled triple quadrupled down on being an authoritarian dictator, Jimmy would not be back.
00:52:04.000 Yeah.
00:52:04.000 Like this where's the power?
00:52:06.000 Where's the authoritarian power?
00:52:08.000 Where's the rioting on the right when something bad happens?
00:52:12.000 Where are the people boarding up their their windows of their stores?
00:52:15.000 It's because we don't do that.
00:52:17.000 And Trump is not an authoritarian.
00:52:19.000 If they knew if it was Xi Jinping in China, there'd be a whole different thing happening with Jimmy Kimmel right now.
00:52:25.000 He would actually understand what he's accusing Trump of being.
00:52:28.000 My take on this, what happened with Brendan Car, who's the FCC chair, went on Benny Johnson's show and mentioned Jimmy by name, and then said we can either do this the easy way or the hard way, and then the next day the affiliates pulled.
00:52:39.000 That felt like the a fascist evil act that produced order.
00:52:46.000 Because the actual reporting said advertisers and affiliates.
00:52:49.000 So the question is for what pressure did advertisers feel?
00:52:53.000 The FCC is not going to go to the advertisers.
00:52:55.000 It was actually backlash from regular people.
00:52:57.000 It's unfortunate because the FCC became the excuse for the left to turn it into orange man bad once again.
00:53:04.000 I don't know.
00:53:04.000 The guy, the FCC head mentioned Jimmy by name, said easy way or hard way, and then the next day he's off the air.
00:53:10.000 You know how many do you know what you know what?
00:53:12.000 Do you know what percentage of uh stations are owned by Next Star and Sinclair?
00:53:15.000 No.
00:53:16.000 Twenty-three percent.
00:53:17.000 Yep.
00:53:17.000 So how come the rest of the affiliates didn't budge?
00:53:20.000 Also, Next Star and Sinclair haven't b haven't backtracked, why did they bring Jimmy back?
00:53:25.000 It sounds like Nextstar is a minority and that they were the ones that budged.
00:53:30.000 Let me just ask you again.
00:53:34.000 That's a whole other thing.
00:53:35.000 Okay, all right, but Ian, if the FCC was the reason why Jimmy was pulled by ABC, why did they bring him back with the advertisers on their position being unchanged?
00:53:46.000 Well, there's a huge backlash from the populace.
00:53:50.000 So which which populace?
00:53:52.000 Yeah.
00:53:53.000 People screaming about Jimmy Kimmel free speech.
00:53:56.000 So there's so the popular vote winner, Donald Trump, who has more than half of the support of this country, or let's just call it 5050.
00:54:02.000 So uh why would Disney put themselves in a position where they are not only on the opposite side of one of of half the country, but also advertisers.
00:54:12.000 Leave the affiliates aside.
00:54:14.000 My point is this.
00:54:15.000 Everyone wants to make it about the FCC.
00:54:17.000 Conservatives are so easy to trick, it's laughable.
00:54:20.000 Okay.
00:54:21.000 The FCC, I do think it's fair to say played some some form of a role here because that pressure is visible.
00:54:26.000 But the reporting doesn't show that.
00:54:28.000 And we'd be speculating to make that assumption.
00:54:30.000 I do think it's fair to make the assumption, however, it's logic, right?
00:54:32.000 But at the end, they brought Jimmy back.
00:54:34.000 Okay, well, the affiliates haven't changed their positions.
00:54:36.000 So why bring him back?
00:54:38.000 Your argument is, well, because there was a backlash.
00:54:40.000 The backlash got him taken off the air in the first place.
00:54:42.000 So again, what is the unique identifier?
00:54:45.000 Uh I'm gonna go ahead and say the only discernible thing is the terror threats against ABC stations.
00:54:49.000 Oh, I'm sure it was a good thing.
00:54:50.000 And a guy who opened fire on an ABC station.
00:54:52.000 Yeah, probably part of a specifically citing Bob Iger and Dana Walden, who said, according to Wall Street Journal, they feared for the safety of their staff.
00:54:59.000 So if the affiliates haven't changed their position, how is this an FCC related issue?
00:55:05.000 ABC was looking at 23% of their stations, not even the major markets, New York, LA, and Chicago, unaffected.
00:55:10.000 So ABC said a minority of our markets are upset.
00:55:14.000 Let's cancel Jimmy Kimmel altogether.
00:55:16.000 I don't think the issue they didn't.
00:55:18.000 They just indefinitely suspended his his tenure, which means it could indefinite means there's no defined date.
00:55:23.000 It could be one day or it could be a year.
00:55:25.000 What is the motivating factor?
00:55:26.000 And I think it was they said you are going to make things worse.
00:55:30.000 Right now, we are looking at a certain amount of affiliates and advertisers who are angry.
00:55:34.000 You're going to make it worse.
00:55:36.000 He just did.
00:55:37.000 He just made it worse.
00:55:39.000 I don't think this has anything to do with the FCC.
00:55:42.000 I take that back.
00:55:43.000 A little bit.
00:55:45.000 A little bit.
00:55:46.000 But with all of the outcry, and even Brendan Carr walking a statements back.
00:55:49.000 What did he say?
00:55:50.000 Something like I shouldn't have made it seem that way or something like that.
00:55:52.000 Yeah, and the other thing that Brendan Carr brought up is that one of the things that they've been working on is the idea that for a long time now, affiliate stations have felt like they're being like stepped on by these national stations that have all this control over what gets aired and preempting shows, which used to be something that they could do all the time, was something that has become less and less common.
00:56:12.000 So what you're seeing right now is actually rare in current year because for a long time, the as the national stations like Disney have gotten bigger and bigger, they exert more control over these stations.
00:56:24.000 So what Brendan Carr said is that we're giving the power back to these affiliates to be able to act as they see fit.
00:56:30.000 Act in the service of the people who watch their stations at the local level, not at the national level.
00:56:36.000 So you're one of the things you said is that Disney now can decide their network, uh, like what what time slot, what show goes on before your show, basically, and the affiliates have no say over that?
00:56:45.000 No, the the affiliates do have a say over that.
00:56:47.000 The affiliates have the ability to decide to preempt a show.
00:56:50.000 If they want to take something off air because they feel that they can put like syndicated programming in there that will get them better views, right?
00:56:57.000 They can do that.
00:56:58.000 But for a long time, Disney has been able to not just Disney, but any of these national level networks, uh, use the size of their platform to exert power over them to set to get them to not do that because they want to be able to keep their ratings clean across the board.
00:57:11.000 They want to be able to show their ratings for a show like Jimmy Kimmel in all markets, not just in one that's missing 23% of its audience.
00:57:19.000 And that's not for things that have large scale controversies like this, but rather removing it for local events or local news.
00:57:25.000 Yeah, you mentioned Mark that that um this is like uh it's supposed to be national airwaves, it's not supposed to be biased, it's not supposed to be having things that can they're it's supposed to be equal time.
00:57:34.000 The fairness factor wouldn't, especially when it comes to anything political, and it's like it that hasn't been you know in play for a long time.
00:57:41.000 It was just sort of an understood thing, but for him to actually outright lie and paint half the country with this murderous brush, and then he was offered, you know, you can make it right, you can come back and make a correction and an apology.
00:57:57.000 And he could have, and it could have been sincere, but he didn't.
00:58:00.000 He could have done that before he was canceled or before he was indefinitely suspended.
00:58:05.000 And he said, absolutely not, I'm not doing it.
00:58:07.000 I will push it.
00:58:08.000 It was not about a joke about Trump.
00:58:10.000 It had nothing to do with Trump.
00:58:11.000 It had to do with him telling a lie about half of the country.
00:58:15.000 I don't think it was a lie.
00:58:16.000 He didn't lie, technically.
00:58:17.000 He said they're trying to say that he wasn't MAGA.
00:58:19.000 Right, which technically is true.
00:58:21.000 That is not MAGA because he wasn't.
00:58:23.000 So they were saying that.
00:58:24.000 Have you ever bought a power balance bracelet?
00:58:26.000 He wasn't MAGA.
00:58:26.000 He knew it.
00:58:27.000 Have you ever bought a balanced bracelet?
00:58:29.000 Negative.
00:58:30.000 No, I I I bet I could sell you all sorts of crystals rocking.
00:58:33.000 Deception's not the same as lying.
00:58:34.000 He deceived people.
00:58:35.000 He didn't lie.
00:58:35.000 Yes, he is.
00:58:36.000 He didn't lie.
00:58:37.000 Come on, know the definition.
00:58:39.000 I'm trying to win the culture war.
00:58:40.000 You're supposed to use semantics.
00:58:42.000 That was a lie.
00:58:43.000 It was a lie.
00:58:43.000 It was a deception.
00:58:44.000 Yeah.
00:58:44.000 Or he was insinuating that maybe he was MAGA.
00:58:47.000 What is he lying?
00:58:50.000 If it doesn't fly with your girlfriend, it doesn't fly with the public.
00:58:52.000 If you're gonna tell if you're gonna tell your girlfriend, right?
00:58:55.000 I didn't lie to you, I deceived you.
00:58:56.000 She's gonna be like, BS, you lied.
00:58:58.000 You can't like these semantic.
00:59:00.000 You can't do people all sorts of things.
00:59:02.000 These semantic arguments don't mean anything to normal people.
00:59:06.000 You mean something to smart people.
00:59:08.000 Oh, hang on, buddy.
00:59:09.000 And how many people didn't we just hear some Jasmine Crockett say you can commit a crime but that doesn't make you a criminal?
00:59:16.000 Yes.
00:59:16.000 Okay, that's insanely stupid.
00:59:18.000 I agree.
00:59:19.000 Okay.
00:59:20.000 So if you deceive someone, it's it's in the category of lying.
00:59:24.000 Other way around.
00:59:24.000 It is a sin.
00:59:25.000 No.
00:59:25.000 Lying is in the category of deception.
00:59:28.000 Uh deception and lying are they they're in the you know, whatever whatever you want to call it, they're the same thing.
00:59:36.000 If you lie, you're deceiving.
00:59:37.000 If you're deceiving, you're lying.
00:59:39.000 There's a thing called lying by omission.
00:59:40.000 And it's just that's not it's not lying.
00:59:43.000 That's why it's okay.
00:59:44.000 It's a type of deception.
00:59:45.000 And it's by using lying by omission.
00:59:47.000 Trust me, I don't know.
00:59:49.000 Why we're arguing this.
00:59:50.000 You're not, you're not helping anyone understand.
00:59:51.000 I just don't want to hear my friends say he lied when he didn't.
00:59:53.000 I don't want to use wrong words right now.
00:59:54.000 It's super important that we're accurate in our team.
00:59:56.000 He did.
00:59:57.000 Well, I I don't know what there's no point in like yelling yes, no, yes, no.
01:00:03.000 Shall I stay or shall I go?
01:00:05.000 When people talk about like the evils of the media now, they talk about the tactics they use to deceive your as you say, the American people, which is the idea of like if we're talking about a news article, lie by omission, lie by structure.
01:00:18.000 So if you want to hide the important information from somebody in an article, you put it in the last paragraph because you understand the average.
01:00:25.000 How about Mike just read the definition?
01:00:27.000 There you go.
01:00:28.000 A statement made with the intent to deceive.
01:00:31.000 So it's within the realm of the you can do other things that can deceive too.
01:00:34.000 Let me give you an example, and you'll understand this.
01:00:36.000 And everybody will understand this.
01:00:38.000 My business partner, Mike, great guy.
01:00:41.000 There was a point where we both had we both I would drive to the studio in Chicago every day, and then we would drive home to the suburbs where we lived.
01:00:47.000 And for some reason we got into this contest of like seeing who could get home first.
01:00:52.000 So one time I got home, I called him, and he wasn't home yet, and he was still in the car.
01:00:58.000 And he and I said, I beat you home.
01:01:00.000 And he goes, Yeah, but did you have to stop and get gas first?
01:01:04.000 And I'm like, oh gosh, he's right.
01:01:06.000 I didn't.
01:01:07.000 I'm not saying pull it up.
01:01:08.000 I'm just so that was a honest, that was him deceiving me into thinking that he had stopped to get gas.
01:01:14.000 But he was able to say, you know, I never said I stopped to get gas.
01:01:18.000 It's still a lie.
01:01:19.000 Everyone knows at the playground that's a lie.
01:01:22.000 He it was deception.
01:01:23.000 He deceived you without telling a lie.
01:01:24.000 Which it was a lie.
01:01:25.000 Okay, this is a pointless conversation.
01:01:26.000 So let's uh I agree.
01:01:27.000 Why don't we let me see?
01:01:28.000 Let's jump to this next story.
01:01:29.000 We got big news from CNBC.
01:01:32.000 Former FBI director Comey, expected to be indicted soon in Virginia federal court from MSNBC.
01:01:39.000 Now there are some qualifications to this story.
01:01:43.000 They are trying to bring the indictment now because they have six days until the statute of limitations is up.
01:01:49.000 Therefore, homies getting indicted.
01:01:52.000 Right?
01:01:52.000 I mean, I don't see a reality in which they don't pull this off unless somehow a grand jury doesn't return an indictment, which like literally never happens for the federal government.
01:02:00.000 And this is for lying to uh lying to Congress, I believe.
01:02:05.000 Deceiving.
01:02:06.000 Indeed.
01:02:06.000 You're both correct.
01:02:07.000 Right.
01:02:08.000 Trump in a social media post on Saturday called Comey guilty as hell.
01:02:12.000 MSNBC reporter Ken Delanian in a post on X wrote Wednesday the full extent of the charges being prepared against Comey is unclear.
01:02:18.000 But the sources believe that if that at least one element of the indictment, if it goes forward, will accuse him of lying to Congress during his testimony on September 30th, 2020 about whether he authorized a leak of information.
01:02:29.000 Comey that day under questioning from Senator Ted Cruz stood by his prior testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he did not.
01:02:36.000 I remember this.
01:02:38.000 In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a video on my channel, YouTube.com slash Timcast.
01:02:42.000 Did Comey lie, where I concluded back then, probably not.
01:02:46.000 Actually, no, wait, this wasn't 2020.
01:02:48.000 He lied a lot.
01:02:49.000 Holy crap.
01:02:50.000 That video I was talking about, I think was from 2018.
01:02:53.000 Dang.
01:02:54.000 Okay, well, um, you know, last week I tweeted at this pace, I expect to see arrests by next I predict we'll see arrests by next next week.
01:03:02.000 And then uh this story broke, and there's a couple other stories about pending indictments as well.
01:03:06.000 To be fair, my prediction is not correct just yet, but what do you guys think?
01:03:10.000 Can I just ask who comes up with the statute of limitations?
01:03:13.000 I kind of feel like some of these things Well, when I get to Congress, I'm gonna say, I think we should extend all the statute of limitations.
01:03:20.000 It's we don't have enough time to actually figure some of this stuff out, and then like, oh no, uh, you know, J Biden's son uh Hunter, he's you know, it doesn't matter what he did because we're past statute of limitations.
01:03:32.000 I just think it's I think it's kind of ridiculous.
01:03:34.000 No, no, no.
01:03:35.000 I I I agree with the statute of limitations.
01:03:36.000 The problem is there shouldn't be.
01:03:38.000 I just think I'd like to like extend them.
01:03:40.000 I I it's it's hard to know the limits are.
01:03:42.000 The general idea is if the government knows a crime is committed but refuses to prosecute for a certain amount of time, then they can't come back later and do it.
01:03:49.000 The reason for that is you might be accused of a crime, and again, accused is not proven.
01:03:55.000 Yeah.
01:03:55.000 And the government then says, We can charge you whenever we want, so you better do what we say.
01:04:01.000 Statute of limitations stops that.
01:04:02.000 But the but but here's the issue.
01:04:03.000 The issue is we didn't go after Comey because Biden was in office and you couldn't.
01:04:08.000 And not only that, I don't think we had the we couldn't even get the evidence.
01:04:11.000 It's like sometimes, well, and this is why I think it's interesting that murder has no statute of limitations, and and that's why you murder somebody and it could come back and get you at any point in your life.
01:04:21.000 So um I'm not saying what Comey did is tantamount to murder, but I I think it's uh if if uh he get he got a four-year head start because it got Biden into office.
01:04:31.000 What is the actual charge that they're looking at giving this guy lying to Congress?
01:04:35.000 Well, that's the one we know of so far, but there may be more.
01:04:38.000 He did he seemed like the dirty, I mean, during the Hillary email Clinton or the Hillary email Clinton scandal when Hillary Clinton's emails were getting 30,000 emails getting destroyed, you know, uh, which was illegal.
01:04:50.000 Comey was kind of, I believe, covering that, covering for her in a way.
01:04:54.000 He's been he was like the the hard arm of the the what is the FBI director?
01:04:58.000 Yeah, the director.
01:04:59.000 And like their job is to lie to the American people a lot of times.
01:05:02.000 And deceive.
01:05:03.000 Yeah, and and like that's for national security.
01:05:06.000 Well, it's you're you're right, it's both.
01:05:07.000 It's for national security, and and then I don't what I I really uh can a little bit of concerns me is like when the next administration comes in and they're like, we gotta clean up the mess the last guy's made.
01:05:16.000 You're like, not every time.
01:05:18.000 Like sometimes just I don't know.
01:05:20.000 No, no, you do.
01:05:20.000 Like Ian, if you if you rented a house and the last guy made a mess on the floor with his butt, but what if it was a party and it was a really fun party.
01:05:29.000 You'd still want to clean it up.
01:05:30.000 And maybe you want to hire someone to do it, but you gotta clean up.
01:05:32.000 So what if you had an administration and there was some national security, you have to lie to the people, or you feel like you do, you issue your FBI director lie to the people.
01:05:39.000 Would you then expect he's gonna go to prison in four years when you're out of office?
01:05:42.000 Depends on the lie.
01:05:43.000 Would you put him in that position knowing that he's gonna really?
01:05:47.000 Uh so when you when you're talking about these lies, it's really easy.
01:05:50.000 I don't play these stupid games where it's like, you know, you can't answer the question, people are like, well, listen, I don't want to understand.
01:05:55.000 No, no, no.
01:05:56.000 The answer is should the government lie?
01:05:57.000 Yeah.
01:05:58.000 Sometimes, for some reasons, there are reasons why the government lies.
01:06:01.000 That's why we have national security, uh security apparatus.
01:06:03.000 That's why we have confidentiality, that's why we have uh classic we have security clearances.
01:06:08.000 Sometimes the government has to be like, I'm not gonna tell you.
01:06:12.000 Now, the lie part of that, it depends on what your limit is.
01:06:15.000 But let's say that like someone accidentally sees a piece of uh military tech that we need for a national security purpose, maybe a cybersecurity thing, and then this person runs out, goes to the press and says, I saw this guy doing this thing.
01:06:28.000 Well, if you came out and said, it is true, he did see me doing this thing, well, you've exposed whatever that is.
01:06:34.000 At that point, you're probably gonna want your government to lie about it and say, This is incorrect, he was never there, and it's silly to think that.
01:06:41.000 In fact, what he actually saw was a weather balloon.
01:06:43.000 And if Congress calls you to testify under oath, you're still technically supposed to lie.
01:06:49.000 In certain circumstances, I uh the reality of life is it's we we do not live in the invention of lying with Ricky Gervais.
01:06:57.000 Okay.
01:06:58.000 When when your your significant other, your wife, your girlfriend says, Does this make me look fat?
01:07:04.000 Well, it depends on the kind of person you are, but most people are gonna lie.
01:07:07.000 And the even if they're like, I can't lie, you do look a little fat.
01:07:12.000 You can still do it in a nice way, but some people might just be like you look great because they want that person to feel good.
01:07:17.000 We call those little white lies.
01:07:18.000 In government's more challenging because well, the people have a right to know, right?
01:07:22.000 Within certain confines, I believe is extremely important that information be available to the public.
01:07:27.000 I also recognize you need national security because we go to war sometimes.
01:07:31.000 And could you imagine if the US was like, no matter what we do, whenever we do it, we're gonna tell the whole world.
01:07:36.000 Yeah, we'd we'd we'd be conquered in two seconds.
01:07:39.000 We've never yeah what George Washington was master of dissent.
01:07:42.000 Oh bro, could you imagine if like the founding fathers were like, now before we make any moves, let's hold up gigantic flags and blow our horns and then send letters to all the enemies and make sure they all know exactly what our plan is.
01:07:52.000 They cross the Delaware and make sure they wake everybody up before they start slitting through a thing.
01:07:56.000 Yeah that's only fair.
01:07:56.000 Yeah.
01:07:57.000 I think with our our constitutional right to protection against search and seizure has been violated with the PRISM network where you they can all of our texts and videos and emails are busy no such network exists.
01:08:07.000 I mean oh yeah exactly what about the network that Edward Snowden did not suppose uh what about uh the seizing of property that's another well that's technically what's happening when they take your text in your I was warned about this there there's a certain level of conspiracy theory stuff that you some you guys apparently get into so no the government what conspiracy theories the government uh people are able to take your text and your voicemails they used to have to get a warrant for that stuff now they just record it and set it to adapt.
01:08:34.000 Like civil assets forfeiture is not a conspiracy so Jim Comey testified uh not Jim Comey but uh James Clapper uh it's a Congress and he's like we did not winly spy on the American people blatantly lied.
01:08:45.000 Yeah because they felt like they were supposed to but this prism network that they were spying on people with violated our Fourth Amendment.
01:08:51.000 So like at what point are these lies actually upholding the righteousness of the US Constitution that's that's for us to decide as the people we can vote on this we can get the people in we want certainly what Comey is probably going to be accused of doing is lying for political reasons for self-serving political reasons not for the good of the country.
01:09:11.000 So I mean that if with that's proven I think he's he's uh he's in trouble which is I mean that's I think that that it's likely that there's that's just the tip of the iceberg.
01:09:21.000 Yeah.
01:09:22.000 You know, I think there's probably going to be indictments for for more stuff.
01:09:25.000 I mean, the insanity of Russia, Russia, Russia, the Russiagate thing, the insanity of that and the blatant lying that went around that.
01:09:32.000 And it was not in any way.
01:09:34.000 You cannot talk about that being to save, you know, to to protect the American people.
01:09:40.000 It was a pure, horrible way of of disabling the Trump administration and the lies that went around that to try to to make the Trump administration have no power.
01:09:51.000 and it was self-serving.
01:09:55.000 the Democrats and um all the people who encouraged that and lied about it including pencil neck what's his name you said it so I don't have to well I'm only saying what Donald Trump said because he is a pencil neck he's a he's his his head is too big for his body.
01:10:13.000 Here's my metaphor about what's happening on Earth right a liar but kind of makes me wonder if he's a liar you guys are in the video game so I look at the liberal economic order got built basically to destroy communism and protect the world they were going for a domination victory try to take over the planet.
01:10:25.000 Then the Soviet Union ended in 89.
01:10:27.000 But the liberal economic order is still in control so it's like looking for a nail it's a hammer like where's my communism where's my communism and so it's well Russia bad guy Russia so this machine is built to fight Russia.
01:10:37.000 It's been around but we don't need it anymore.
01:10:40.000 Now we've we've made pretty clear like it's a diplomatic victory when you say the liberal liberal economic order that's about more like economics than actually like trying to uh keep Russia in check right it was basically to keep the Soviet Union in check and that that's what NATO and the UN I mean the UN was was kind of designed to do that not as much as NATO was NATO was it was intentionally designed to keep the Warsaw act in check.
01:11:05.000 But the liberal economic order, that's like, that genuinely is a net benefit for the world.
01:11:12.000 Keeping, bringing countries that had basically had basket case governments and had zero economic activity, had massive, massive amounts of absolute poverty.
01:11:24.000 The liberal economic order, the proliferation of capitalist ideas and free market ideas brought, you know, it essentially has gotten rid of abject poverty almost entirely.
01:11:35.000 And there won't be, there will be, there will be only a handful of, on a global scale, a handful of people.
01:11:42.000 people that are in in abject poverty by I think 2030 the the UN and and stuff we're saying.
01:11:48.000 So overall that has been a a massive benefit for the human race.
01:11:53.000 I think what's happening is the the holdovers of that thing are these people these Comey and the Obama administration it's like they're still in That state of like we must destroy Russia, uh, stop control the planet by domination, military victory.
01:12:05.000 And after the Middle East Wars, it became apparent to me that we can't.
01:12:10.000 Nuclear threats, we don't have the manpower, um, and we have to find another path, which is like the cultural victory or the scientific victory.
01:12:17.000 And and but that machine is still in place, and that's what they were doing.
01:12:20.000 They thought Trump was gonna derail it.
01:12:22.000 Are you talking about native?
01:12:23.000 And he largely is.
01:12:24.000 I mean, this is what's really funny is that up until Trump won in 2016, the system was the uniparty.
01:12:30.000 It was one global order.
01:12:33.000 It was the it was the liberal economic order machine.
01:12:35.000 And be it McCain or Obama, you got the same system, be it Romney or Obama, you got the same system.
01:12:42.000 Trump was not supposed to win and did, and the liberal economic order fell into chaos and panic.
01:12:46.000 And now the craziest thing is from that point on, conspiracies began to unravel.
01:12:52.000 The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a conspiracy theory my whole life, and now it's just historical fact.
01:12:57.000 All of this insanity is buckling under the the failures of the children of a liberal economic order.
01:13:04.000 These people, I I have to imagine the people who started the liberal economic order after World War II, if they could see how their grandchildren are handling this, they would spit on the floor and say, What?
01:13:15.000 But hey, wealth only lasts three generations.
01:13:17.000 But you know what?
01:13:19.000 I I'm I'm sitting here thinking, like, man, I don't think we've won just yet, especially with the terror attacks that we've seen.
01:13:25.000 The left is rearing its ugly head, unwilling to accept defeat.
01:13:28.000 But breaking news, ladies and gentlemen, Alex Jones is back.
01:13:33.000 He tweeted his new YouTube channel, and I recommend all of you go to YouTube.com/slash at Alex Jones Live and subscribe.
01:13:43.000 He's only got 797 subscribers.
01:13:46.000 You're you're in the early case.
01:13:48.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:13:48.000 Look at me.
01:13:49.000 I was now you now you can start messaging him, been a subscriber since nine since 97.
01:13:55.000 I mean, look, you know, this guy he's got a small channel, but I think he's pretty good.
01:13:58.000 He's on the way up.
01:13:59.000 He's on the way up.
01:14:00.000 Maybe maybe we could bring him on into a collab and they'll help boost his subs.
01:14:04.000 Yes!
01:14:05.000 Yes!
01:14:07.000 This is why I'm here.
01:14:08.000 I'm a one thousandth subscriber.
01:14:10.000 Let's do it.
01:14:11.000 I'll remember this day for a long time.
01:14:13.000 So now I now Alex Jones tweeted out his new channel.
01:14:17.000 And I I'll say this.
01:14:18.000 I think the reason he's not using his older channels is that they uh because of the lawsuit against him.
01:14:24.000 So he makes a new channel, which is outside of whatever that suit is, perhaps.
01:14:28.000 I also don't know if YouTube actually unlocked his accounts.
01:14:32.000 I'm wondering if Alex Jones is basically poking the bear.
01:14:36.000 Google announced they will no longer take political censorship.
01:14:39.000 The only reason Alex Jones ever got censored was purely political.
01:14:42.000 He know he like it's purely political.
01:14:45.000 Now that he's back, the question is is YouTube going to pull him off or not.
01:14:49.000 I will also add, I submitted our Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Tim Castyroll episode for review, and they rejected the appeal, it appears.
01:14:57.000 I've submitted again.
01:14:58.000 I will not stop.
01:14:59.000 And my contact at Google, it's been a couple days, hasn't responded yet.
01:15:03.000 So that after everything we've seen, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna stop.
01:15:07.000 I'm gonna keep pressing this, but this looks like a massive victory.
01:15:10.000 So do you so were his old channels unbanned or are they still gone?
01:15:13.000 I don't think so.
01:15:14.000 I can't find them.
01:15:15.000 Because even if they were, it might be beneficial for him to start a new one.
01:15:18.000 Because like you said, you started a new channel recently and you grown to reach again algorithmically.
01:15:22.000 They it like we still would have been throttled.
01:15:24.000 I think I think the big issue is what the reason I don't I don't think they unbanned him, and I think that there's InfoWars is part of that lawsuit, all of those companies.
01:15:32.000 So Alex Jones is allowed to have human personal social media, and that's what he's got right now.
01:15:37.000 He's gonna have a million subs overnight, I swear.
01:15:39.000 How did your videos do covering the YouTube censorship?
01:15:42.000 Like on YouTube, how did they do moderate middle of the road?
01:15:45.000 Dude, Jim Jordan's a hero.
01:15:47.000 I know it wasn't just him uncovering this stuff and forcing it, but this this thing, this decision by YouTube or whoever owns, I mean Google, which is owned by Alphabet, that they're like, yeah, okay, gates are open again.
01:15:58.000 You should uh like everybody should ask their like liberal aunt, be like, so about that free speech discussion.
01:16:02.000 Do you see what was going on over there at Google?
01:16:04.000 They won't know anything about it because Jimmy Kimmel didn't talk about it.
01:16:08.000 That would be a good like re-election campaign 2028 for the Republican Party is like really explained to people how it worked from 2016, 2020 to 2024.
01:16:17.000 Even that for like think about if Jimmy Kimmel just like paid lip service and brought this up, like how much like goodwill he could have won.
01:16:23.000 If he didn't want to apologize, made the most like tacit apology to what he did, but also brought up the Google censorship of conservatives, he could have actually made a lot of inroads with people who weren't a fan of what he said, but also are staunchly free speech.
01:16:38.000 Yeah, he still could.
01:16:39.000 Bro.
01:16:40.000 And Gavin McGannis was Gavin McGuinness was brought back to X last week.
01:16:44.000 This is why I saw that.
01:16:45.000 Elon Musk is like never heard of it.
01:16:47.000 Like this seems like he's like, uh didn't know.
01:16:51.000 Like Bro, this is wild.
01:16:53.000 I can't say much right now.
01:16:54.000 And if anybody knows, don't say anything.
01:16:56.000 But Friday's culture war is going to be the most insane thing we ever do.
01:16:59.000 Ever as just getting started.
01:17:01.000 It's gonna be the craziest thing we've we've we've ever done probably.
01:17:03.000 Yeah, the future is like the potential of crazy for the future is unperceivable.
01:17:07.000 Like I don't even know if you realize how it gets like bigger.
01:17:11.000 But beyond sight, yeah, it's it's pretty uh it scales uh exponentially, which is what makes it interesting.
01:17:19.000 You know, it's it's it's it's crazy that the the polarization that we're experiencing, not politically but emotionally.
01:17:25.000 That yeah, Alex Jones is back, he's at 3,000 subscribers already.
01:17:30.000 I don't know how long this will last.
01:17:32.000 Maybe they will take a move against them, but if they do, it's gonna fly in the face of the statement they gave to uh the judiciary committee and Jim Jordan.
01:17:39.000 Gav McGinnis being unbanned is massive.
01:17:42.000 The uncovering of the censorship is absolutely massive.
01:17:44.000 And while we celebrate this, we also have to contend with the leftist terror attacks against us.
01:17:48.000 Yeah, and and and but it's it's it's it's it's it's an equal and opposite reaction.
01:17:53.000 All of these tremendous cultural victories are resulting in a massive backlash in some kind of I don't need to describe it, but in terms of the scale of victory we have, they are recoiling in a comparable violent fashion.
01:18:06.000 Yeah, but that's that makes it unequal.
01:18:09.000 They're they're doing kinetic to us doing ideas.
01:18:12.000 What I mean is like the numerical value of quantifying our victories, they are reacting in a in a negative to the to the inverse reaction.
01:18:22.000 Right.
01:18:23.000 Also, looking forward at what's coming, we got to remember a corporation has control of this show, has a like a singular corporation called Alphabet can not all we're on different networks, but alphabet's power right now.
01:18:35.000 And um we actually have more views on Rumble.
01:18:38.000 That's awesome.
01:18:38.000 Harrison Sewer, who did a documentary called Game of Money, focusing on the Federal Reserve, said that you know, once the culture war sort of simmers and slows, people will remember that central banking is the issue right now.
01:18:49.000 That us our country becoming bankrupt is what will cause people to become radicalized.
01:18:55.000 I don't think that it'll cause people to come become radalize radicalized.
01:18:58.000 I think that people will be radicalized by societal factors, and then they will become violent because of a collapse of the monetary system.
01:19:09.000 I think like what like the the wealth gap right now would be a bigger like they're not gonna like I'm guessing the average person who's looking at like all the average person who's angry at the billionaires, who the have nots who are angry at the haves, they're not really thinking necessarily about central banking,
01:19:24.000 just what the elites have that they don't the people that act out, they they don't often have a deep understanding of like Austrian economics, they don't have a deep understanding of why they're actually angry.
01:19:41.000 Because if you do have a if you have a real good understanding of the the system and the way that it works, most of the time people say, Oh, well, I understand this.
01:19:50.000 I can use this to my advantage.
01:19:52.000 It's the people that don't understand it, that don't have the ability to take advantage of the system that we we exist in to that that get angry and say the system's unfair, I'm locked out, so I think it'd be better if we just destroy it and tear it all down.
01:20:04.000 And those were the Bolsheviks in the at the end of the Soviet or at the end of the uh Russian Empire.
01:20:09.000 Um with they they were in a terrible economic situation.
01:20:12.000 Weimar Germany, they they did were completely, and they didn't understand, they just followed along with their socialist government and was like uh the Nazi, you got the Nazi party because the economics the Nazis were a reaction to the communists, and the Nazis weren't extremely far away economically from the communists, right?
01:20:31.000 They they were they were kind of fighting over the scene.
01:20:33.000 It was still authoritarian.
01:20:34.000 You know, the thing I'm looking at this, and I, you know, it's I read you know F.A. Hayek and the Road to Serfdom, and I understand a lot about economics and and conservative ideology.
01:20:45.000 What's slapping me in the face right now is the difference right now is uh between the two sides is a spiritual difference, and that's what I saw Charlie Kirk actually emphasize.
01:20:56.000 And uh and turning point literally means I know I'm changing the subject, but I'm not fine.
01:21:00.000 Because what I'm saying is that we can get away from ideas and rational and logic, and we can we can argue all sorts of things.
01:21:10.000 But what I'm actually seeing is a spiritual battle going on in this country in the world, and repentance means to turn from the direction you're going in.
01:21:19.000 You're going in this direction, repent means turnaround.
01:21:22.000 We, as as humanity, have been traveling away from God, and it's time to turn around and come back to God.
01:21:29.000 And that's how simple that is.
01:21:31.000 And what I'm seeing is Gen Z men, especially Gen Z males, actually realizing that they have one choice.
01:21:39.000 We talked about this before the show, but they're either going to be nihilistic suicidal murderers murdering suicidal people, or they're going to find something that's actually actually real, that is, and the the generations ahead of Gen Z Gen Z have not been providing these kids anything tangible.
01:22:01.000 And Charlie was saying there is a tangible thing.
01:22:04.000 There is something there for you.
01:22:05.000 And it's called loving God, and you start with loving God, and everything else will come back to you.
01:22:11.000 And I'm seeing these kids going, thank you.
01:22:14.000 That's what I need.
01:22:15.000 I don't need to read a bunch of more philosophy books.
01:22:20.000 I need some I need something that's spiritual that's actually solid.
01:22:23.000 And to me, it's amazing to see I just that this could happen.
01:22:27.000 I just want to revival.
01:22:29.000 I need to add this in the context of Alex Jones from the Hollywood Reporter.
01:22:32.000 Jessica Chastain says she does not agree with Apple's decision to postpone the savant.
01:22:36.000 So for those unfamiliar, one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.
01:22:40.000 They did this show.
01:22:40.000 I mean, this just shows you how much they're losing.
01:22:43.000 In the same segment where we say Alex Jones is back, we can also mention this show The Savant, where uh you want to describe it, Brett?
01:22:49.000 You're the master of the stuff.
01:22:50.000 Uh yeah.
01:22:51.000 There's um there's a um a Karen, you know, it's a it's a female leftist power fantasy where a woman gets on the internet.
01:22:59.000 Okay, girl boss infilt and she infiltrates far right extremist chat rooms to expose domestic terrorism.
01:23:08.000 It's based on like a 2019 article from Cosmopolitan that's based on a real thing.
01:23:12.000 I doubt it.
01:23:13.000 Um, it's it is based on a real thing.
01:23:15.000 They what they don't point out is that like for we talked about it today.
01:23:17.000 It's like the first group infiltrated and exposed was actually like a Muslim terrorist organization, but that's not what this will be.
01:23:24.000 This will end up being, you know, right wing Yeah, they're they're they're they're semi-canceling it.
01:23:30.000 And she listed a bunch of in in her very long, you know, letter, she listed a bunch of different, you know, recent terror attacks to her credit.
01:23:38.000 She didn't just list stuff that happened to left-wing people, but she did also mention Charlie Kirk and others.
01:23:44.000 But what she doesn't, she's not willing to admit because she says we need this event, we need this show right now in this country so we can talk about domestic terrorism.
01:23:52.000 She doesn't point out that this will the show most likely would not have shown any left-wing domestic terrorism at all.
01:23:59.000 I want to give this his own segment.
01:24:00.000 So I'm I'm gonna start from the top uh for those that are watching just the segment.
01:24:03.000 It's a story from the Hollywood reporter.
01:24:04.000 Jessica Chestain says she does not agree with Apple's decision to postpone the savant.
01:24:09.000 The gist of the show is that uh as Brett Desivik of Pop Culture Crisis just described, it is a lib femme power fantasy where a suburban mom goes on the internet and infiltrates far right chat grooms and then uh stops their terror attacks.
01:24:22.000 And uh, as Brett mentioned in her post, disagreeing with the fact that she's her show's basically being pulled.
01:24:27.000 Maybe maybe I'll bring it back to Jimmy Kimmel style.
01:24:29.000 She listed a bunch of attacks, and as I started reading these, I was like, oh boy, let's debunk this in the best way we can.
01:24:37.000 She writes In the last five years since we've been making the show, we've seen an unfortunate amount of violence in the United States.
01:24:43.000 The kidnapping attempt on Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer.
01:24:46.000 Let's pause there.
01:24:46.000 Now, as most people know, I think what was it, 80% of the men involved were informants?
01:24:51.000 And it was a couple of guys who were I don't want to say necessarily entrapped, but uh basically entrapped.
01:24:58.000 Right.
01:24:58.000 There was one instance where the informants drove a guy around her house, and he was like, What are we doing?
01:25:03.000 And then they arrested him for it.
01:25:04.000 So uh let's continue on.
01:25:05.000 They're like, do it.
01:25:06.000 Do the she then mentions the thing the January 6th attack on the Capitol, and I will give her that one 100% not good.
01:25:12.000 And she just described it as an attack, and I think that's fair.
01:25:15.000 She didn't say insurrection or anything.
01:25:17.000 People did storm into the building and smash windows.
01:25:19.000 Notice she didn't mention like all the stuff that had when Brett Kavanaugh was being I gotta I gotta read the assassination attempts on President Trump, agreed.
01:25:26.000 The political assassinations of democratic reps in Minnesota.
01:25:29.000 Now, this one really gets me.
01:25:30.000 You know why?
01:25:32.000 It was Greg Gutfeld who made a really great point.
01:25:34.000 The the guy who killed these these people in Minnesota, he didn't do it for overt political reasons.
01:25:39.000 Right.
01:25:40.000 He may have been a Trump supporter.
01:25:41.000 He may have not been.
01:25:42.000 He may have been an appointee of Waltz.
01:25:43.000 I will stop Kings.
01:25:45.000 I will just indeed in it in his car.
01:25:47.000 Now I will just stop and say this.
01:25:48.000 For the sake of argument, I will give the left that this guy was a Trump supporter.
01:25:51.000 Don't care.
01:25:51.000 Here's a Trump supporter.
01:25:52.000 Okay, thank you.
01:25:53.000 He didn't kill these people because of political reasons.
01:25:56.000 He knew them.
01:25:57.000 So this appears to be not motivated by the rhetoric of Republicans.
01:26:01.000 Still bad, must be condemned, but a distinction that I think is warranted.
01:26:06.000 The attack on Speaker Pulse's husband was a crazy guy.
01:26:09.000 Literally, there's no there was nothing political there.
01:26:11.000 No politics.
01:26:12.000 No politics at all.
01:26:13.000 The assassination of Charlie Kirk agreed.
01:26:15.000 The recent shooting at an ABC affiliate station in California.
01:26:18.000 Yeah.
01:26:19.000 Over 300 school shootings across this country.
01:26:21.000 I agree with that one.
01:26:22.000 These innocent incidents, though far from encompassing the full range of violence witnessed in the United States, illustrate a broader mindset that crosses the political spectrum and must be confronted.
01:26:29.000 I've never shied away from difficult subjects.
01:26:31.000 And while I wish the show wasn't so relevant, unfortunately it is.
01:26:34.000 Unfortunately, the show, as depicted in the trailer, was literally just showing white supremacists.
01:26:39.000 Please pull if you can find the um article from Variety asking, it says like you should not why why pulling the savant is like the worst thing you could do right now.
01:26:49.000 I don't know if that's enough to find it.
01:26:51.000 Apple postponing is a huge Yes.
01:26:53.000 Pull that up and read it.
01:26:55.000 It's a huge mistake.
01:26:56.000 Yes.
01:26:56.000 Pull it up and read the opinion.
01:26:57.000 In a shocking decision, Apple TV is supposed in the premiere of Jessica Chastain drama series The Savant, offering another chilling example of how business giants are running scared of the Trump administration and bowing to pressure before it even exists.
01:27:06.000 The series had been scheduled to premiere September 26th.
01:27:08.000 If a careful consideration, we have made the decision to postpone the savant, and Apple TV Plus spokesperson said in a statement of variety.
01:27:12.000 We appreciate your understanding and look forward to releasing the series in a future date.
01:27:16.000 Oh, is it okay?
01:27:17.000 Um it's okay.
01:27:17.000 I'm looking for a different one.
01:27:18.000 It's uh let me see if I can find it in the city.
01:27:20.000 Well, it does say it was a Apple's making a huge mistake.
01:27:24.000 Okay, scroll down.
01:27:25.000 Yeah, that was just the intro to the article.
01:27:26.000 Okay, yeah.
01:27:27.000 You have to read the actual Having watched the eight-episode series for review, it's clear the Savant is precisely the type of show America needs right now.
01:27:33.000 It looks at a sector of mostly white male individuals who believe that America belongs to them.
01:27:37.000 Fueled by hate, bigotry, xenophobia, and misogyny, they talk cruelly and candidly online about and enacting harm and violence towards individuals or others who they feel are unworthy of being in their country.
01:27:48.000 Um about projection.
01:27:50.000 So I I I have a video.
01:27:52.000 I recommend everyone subscribe to YouTube.com/slash at Tim Pool, the Tim Pool show YouTube channel.
01:27:58.000 It's a new channel.
01:27:59.000 I uh did the math.
01:28:01.000 Live, recorded live, went on ChatGPT and said conservative political violence.
01:28:08.000 It said there's around three it said there's around 320 if you include January 6th.
01:28:12.000 I said leftist, 13,709 if you include the George Floyd riots.
01:28:17.000 If you remove January 6 and the George Floyd riots, let's just say they cancel each other out.
01:28:21.000 They don't, but let's just say they do.
01:28:23.000 There's around 100 far uh leftist, not even far left, just liberal Democrat-aligned violence in the past five years and two from the right.
01:28:33.000 Uh and and I and I and I will say this too with with with uh respect for the intelligence of the audience.
01:28:39.000 There was a right-wing individual who sent a threat over the Jimmy Kimmel thing initially.
01:28:45.000 Uh so this this person, I guess, threatened violence against ABC because of what Jimmy Kimmel said.
01:28:50.000 And uh Bob Iger and Dana Waldorf apparently were concerned about threats stations had received from the right.
01:28:56.000 And I think that's fair to point out.
01:28:57.000 There was also an individual who tried burning down some some church and was was motivated by some things, something I don't know exactly the details.
01:29:05.000 I got no problem pointing that out.
01:29:06.000 The bigger question is it pertains to all this violence is should I be if if I was to walk, I'm walking down the street, right?
01:29:13.000 And I see a pink-haired black clad individual, and I look to my right, and I see a chubby white guy in a MAGA hat.
01:29:20.000 Which side of the street should I stand on?
01:29:23.000 It's obvious to literally everybody.
01:29:24.000 Yeah.
01:29:25.000 The likelihood that that, you know, middle middle class white Trump guy is gonna do anything to you is slim to none.
01:29:31.000 And while I think it's fair to point out that the pink-haired weird on the left probably won't do anything either, if we're talking strictly about which is more likely, we all know it's the left.
01:29:39.000 So one of the things I noticed after Charlie Kirk's shooting, uh, and I knew I saw people arguing right away about the modus of this person and you know his belief system and all of this different stuff, and I was like, no, we're gonna find all that out.
01:29:54.000 It's all gonna come out eventually, and it's gonna be fascinating, and we're gonna try to figure out about Siloing inside this virtual reality and the world of social media that is consuming a generation of people.
01:30:08.000 What's more important to me is I'm looking at the people who celebrated Charlie Kirk's death.
01:30:13.000 And I was seeing people who would you'd have thought were normal, quote unquote middle of the road leftists who happen to be doctors and teachers and lawyers and business people, and they were literally celebrating this horrible act of political violence.
01:30:27.000 I've never seen anything on the right to compare to that.
01:30:31.000 I've never seen normal people on the right celebrating something as heinous as what happened to Charlie Kirk.
01:30:38.000 So I'm more concerned about like where is society now that we it's it's okay for people to celebrate.
01:30:44.000 We're talking about people in Congress, people on the floor of Congress actually saying that Charlie Kirk does deserve this because of his his evil thoughts.
01:30:55.000 Um that's that's the part that scares me the most is not that there's you know some some wackos that that are feeding off each other in their silos on social media and they do horrible things and they're probably encouraged by the leftist rhetoric.
01:31:12.000 It's that there's such a huge portion of our society that can actually celebrate this event.
01:31:18.000 And that's what that freaks me out more than anything.
01:31:21.000 I think that psychosis comes from people talking shit at each other on the internet, and there's no there's no immediate response like you can say it's not an either-or thing.
01:31:28.000 There's nothing, there's nothing commensurate on the right.
01:31:31.000 Yeah, like let's let's let's be real, you know.
01:31:35.000 When when I saw the George Floyd riots, I thought this is how we're supposed to live.
01:31:40.000 And then when I saw that big prayer vigil, I was terrified.
01:31:42.000 Because like most Americans, prayer is the most threatening thing to them.
01:31:46.000 I think that's a good thing.
01:31:50.000 To Marty's point, though, like when you hear the things that the left brings up that they're complaining about, things like Pelosi or the Minnesota lawmakers that were killed.
01:31:59.000 They were not specifically like they were not right wingers going after people.
01:32:04.000 And the Pelosi incident is one that I've made uh this remark about multiple times.
01:32:09.000 Like it's ridiculous for them to say, oh, this was a political attack, like the and and the the right was celebrating it.
01:32:16.000 No, no one on the right celebrated it.
01:32:18.000 Nobody laughed about the circumstances, yes, because it was ridiculous.
01:32:22.000 They're both in their underwear, right?
01:32:24.000 And one guy attacked uh Speaker Pelosi's husband, and that's bad.
01:32:29.000 But nobody was nobody was saying this is good.
01:32:32.000 I'm glad that they did.
01:32:34.000 And he he deserved it.
01:32:36.000 He was a bad person, and we need to see more of that.
01:32:38.000 Or there's more people that should be on the list.
01:32:41.000 And that is what the biggest problem was.
01:32:43.000 Like it's horrifying that Charlie got murdered.
01:32:45.000 But the the con the context is greater than just Charlie's murder because the left celebrated in a in a gleeful and joyous way, and then they called for more and listed off the people that they thought needed to be to be to be killed.
01:33:00.000 Here's here's the thing.
01:33:01.000 I'm I'm small potential.
01:33:02.000 The right never did.
01:33:03.000 I'm out in, yeah, and I'm out in Nevada, and I had just talked to uh TPUSA and you know, passed their test, and then TPUSA at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, uh was part of a group of of young people who wanted me to come and speak to them.
01:33:19.000 Charlie Kirk gets assassinated, and then the next Monday I'm supposed to go to UNLV and speak to this group.
01:33:25.000 And the it I had a fleeting thought, like I wonder if I should do this.
01:33:30.000 Is this a safe thing to do?
01:33:32.000 And of course, then the very next thought is I can't possibly let these people win.
01:33:37.000 I can't live in fear.
01:33:38.000 None of us should live in fear.
01:33:40.000 But it's just insane to me that like that's the kind of thing that the these people want us to do by celebrating, yeah, it makes all of us think twice.
01:33:49.000 I'm uh you know, Tim, I'm sure you're you get all sorts of horrible uh threats all the time.
01:33:54.000 You look them up on Blue Sky.
01:33:56.000 And so, like you're not gonna go, probably.
01:33:59.000 I'm gonna go do an outdoor convention on Saturday for fun.
01:34:02.000 We we canceled our uh Alec Alex Dunn and I had a college event scheduled for two weeks, it's canceled.
01:34:08.000 We can't we can't, we we can't get the security for you.
01:34:10.000 It's just uh that's that is such a sad, sad thing.
01:34:13.000 For as long as I've worked at this company, there have been swattings and incidents, and after what happened to Charlie Kirk, I was on my honeymoon, and my wife literally said, This is the first time that I've thought maybe I don't want you working in this industry.
01:34:27.000 Was it was it uh were you outside?
01:34:30.000 Yeah, the first time when they point the guns at you?
01:34:32.000 Yeah, me and Andy.
01:34:33.000 Was that a swatting?
01:34:34.000 So yeah, the the very first time that there was a swatting, me and Andy were walking in from one of the other buildings.
01:34:39.000 And we're like skating, right?
01:34:41.000 Yeah, we were we were out skating and they we were coming back, and the cops literally were like, hands up, walk backwards towards us.
01:34:48.000 Yeah.
01:34:48.000 Well, you had skateboards.
01:34:49.000 I mean that makes sense.
01:34:49.000 No, no, rollerblades.
01:34:50.000 It's even worse.
01:34:55.000 The point being that it's roll backwards.
01:34:58.000 We work at like a media company, and we have to worry about these types of things.
01:35:03.000 Like and I can't, I don't even want to talk about this with my family.
01:35:07.000 Like I don't want to, I don't want to scare my my family or my parents or anything like that.
01:35:12.000 You know what I think this why we see what you think on the left is where this kind of psychosis of like violence when on the people on the right area.
01:35:20.000 I think that people that have sort of been broken or that have are at a level of intellect where they're manipul easily manipulated by media are drawn to groupthink, and that is like communism, collectivism.
01:35:31.000 And so they find themselves identifying with like what do we think everyone on the internet they'll type stuff like that.
01:35:36.000 And people that are resistant to it are more drawn to uh you know individualism and and owning your property and protecting yourself.
01:35:43.000 And so they gravitate in another direction.
01:35:45.000 I'm telling you guys, let's let's open our eyes.
01:35:47.000 Godless communism.
01:35:48.000 That is like a funny thing to say.
01:35:50.000 It's like an old it's an old fashioned conservative boomer thing to say, but it's actually true.
01:35:55.000 Yeah.
01:35:56.000 Yeah.
01:35:56.000 You know, Marx and Lenin and the progressives all the way through, uh, you know, all the way up to Durada and the philosophers of the French and the and the deconstructionists.
01:36:08.000 This is they want God gone.
01:36:11.000 Yeah.
01:36:11.000 And it's it goes all the way back to, you know, you know, romantic poets and and philosophy, and and it's it's a rebellion against God.
01:36:19.000 And when you eliminate God, you're open to this.
01:36:22.000 And that's where the psychosis and the evil comes from.
01:36:25.000 I think the antidote is virtue.
01:36:27.000 I've been to Charlie was like talked about Erica when he met Erica, and he he said she's Christ like.
01:36:31.000 And I'm like, okay, that's our job as Christians, or just to live in a good way.
01:36:35.000 You want to be Christ like.
01:36:36.000 You don't want to be Christ, because that that adjective is to explain the anointed one by God, Jesus of Nazareth.
01:36:42.000 But you can be like Christ.
01:36:43.000 And if you embody the sin opposite the virtue of the seven virtues of Catholicism, chastity, um, diligence, you have temperance, charity, uh, patience, uh, humility, and and and kindness, kindness.
01:36:58.000 And those seven things are so important to embody.
01:37:00.000 If you embody the synopsis, you become anti-Christ.
01:37:03.000 And that's what if if someone super famous and well loved starts to embody sin, they might people might erroneously say he is the ant the anti-Christ.
01:37:11.000 He's just anti-Christ in that moment.
01:37:13.000 They can still redeem themselves.
01:37:15.000 That sounds like all of the left.
01:37:17.000 Like when you described those things, those seven things, the inverse of that, it's like the left is what?
01:37:22.000 They're arrogant, arrogant, prideful, wrathful, lazy, envious.
01:37:27.000 Yes, seven deadly sins.
01:37:28.000 Right.
01:37:28.000 I mean, that's a this it's always cracked me up that there's Pride Week or now Pride Month.
01:37:33.000 And it's like sloth months.
01:37:35.000 It's one of the seven deadly sins.
01:37:37.000 Like you could have come up with better.
01:37:39.000 This reminds me of when the company that took Halo over decided to name their company after one of our main villains, 343 Guilty Spark was a villain.
01:37:48.000 And then 343 Guilty Industries made Halo.
01:37:51.000 They love the the left loves the villains.
01:37:52.000 It's important we can all become anti-Christ.
01:37:55.000 We can all become anti-Christ.
01:37:56.000 So it's important to stay virtuous.
01:37:58.000 Because like when Trump said I hate my opponent, he was embodying wrath, which is anti-Christ.
01:38:03.000 And if if you don't check him on that and let him go down that road, it can become a must be checked.
01:38:09.000 That's what I loved about it.
01:38:10.000 He was asking, you can please try to redeem me.
01:38:12.000 I think I'm making a mistake here.
01:38:14.000 And he had a somewhat smile on his face.
01:38:16.000 Trump's being Trump, and he wants to be redeemed.
01:38:19.000 He's he's asking to for help.
01:38:21.000 That's why I said we gotta go to your rumble rants and super chats.
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01:40:05.000 Uh, I will also just add on top of this.
01:40:07.000 I am very, very happy personally that I bought Bitcoin 10 years ago.
01:40:12.000 I'm happy I bought it.
01:40:14.000 That's true, that's true.
01:40:15.000 But in all in all seriousness, um, you know, we we we like the block trust guys and everything.
01:40:20.000 Just make sure you're doing your due diligence.
01:40:22.000 It's your money.
01:40:23.000 Make sure you're taking care of yourself.
01:40:24.000 By the way, it's gonna come down to what you, you know, your responsibility.
01:40:27.000 I bought Apple in 1998.
01:40:29.000 That's all I'm saying.
01:40:31.000 Nice job.
01:40:32.000 You know, my first my first uh my first Bitcoin was at 70 cents.
01:40:37.000 And then I sold it at five bucks, dancing, like, let's go.
01:40:40.000 And then I had 20 uh Bitcoin when it was at 20 bucks, and I sold it, and I was like, let's go.
01:40:45.000 It's spiked at 20 bucks.
01:40:46.000 And I was like, guys, I got 400 bucks.
01:40:48.000 Let's go.
01:40:48.000 I'm taking out to dinner.
01:40:49.000 Yeah.
01:40:49.000 There's no way anyone would expect that a hundred grand per Bitcoin.
01:40:52.000 I listen, I was on these forums, I was hanging out with these people back in 2011 when Bitcoin hit like 70 cents and went to a dollar or whatever.
01:41:00.000 I had been you I've been using this.
01:41:02.000 No one thought we we were all like, wow, it's at 20 bucks.
01:41:05.000 What do you think?
01:41:06.000 So when it went up to uh when it crashed at a down to a thousand, I was like, I'm done.
01:41:10.000 And I bought a bunch.
01:41:11.000 When it was anyway, eighty thousand, I was like, it's so much.
01:41:14.000 What's the I'll buy?
01:41:15.000 And then it doubled went up by 50% to 120,000.
01:41:19.000 I bought in at 30,000.
01:41:20.000 It was like 27, and I was like, I'm just gonna buy some more.
01:41:23.000 And remember Max Kaiser being like, Bitcoin's gonna go to a million, and everyone's like, uh, that's that's so Alex Jones has the story where Max offered him 10,000 Bitcoin, and Alex was like, I don't know, I don't care.
01:41:34.000 And then uh my story is comparable because uh, you know, back in the day, like Max is in El Salvador now, but shout out to Max Kaiser and Stacey Herbert.
01:41:41.000 I see them much more periodically.
01:41:43.000 And uh Max was like, Tim, I'm telling you, just buy a bunch of Bitcoin right now, and you hang out with us and you're gonna be rich.
01:41:49.000 And I was like, Okay, Max, I get it.
01:41:50.000 And then I didn't.
01:41:53.000 Some people will crypto people will be like, talk about other cryptos.
01:41:56.000 There's other cryptos that are better, but Bitcoin's like the VHS.
01:41:58.000 You know, there might be a Betamax that's a better piece attack out there, but everyone knows Bitcoin.
01:42:02.000 Let's let's read some chats.
01:42:03.000 We got Liberty Denny says, in California, the first ICE agent is doxxed, and them or their family is harmed.
01:42:08.000 Everyone who signed SB627 should be charged as an accessory and imprisoned for enabling it.
01:42:13.000 Laws have consequences.
01:42:15.000 Jolly 1976 says, I'm a Flintstones kid.
01:42:18.000 Yay!
01:42:19.000 And growing.
01:42:21.000 I know.
01:42:22.000 That was my daughter singing that.
01:42:23.000 I wrote it.
01:42:24.000 As you know.
01:42:24.000 You wrote that?
01:42:25.000 Oh, well, come on, Tim.
01:42:26.000 Hey, do some research, buddy.
01:42:29.000 I didn't know about the Flintstones thing.
01:42:30.000 Wow.
01:42:31.000 Yeah.
01:42:31.000 We have Flintstones kids.
01:42:34.000 I wasn't alive.
01:42:35.000 I know.
01:42:35.000 I think you have grown.
01:42:37.000 So you're you did you ever take a Flintstones vitamin?
01:42:40.000 Of course.
01:42:40.000 Okay, we're gonna be able to do that.
01:42:41.000 We always love the memes.
01:42:42.000 And the kids wanted to eat more than you're allowed to eat because they were yummy.
01:42:45.000 That's why all the memes were like, why I haven't gotten COVID 19 yet.
01:42:48.000 And it was your daughter still a musician because she's a great singer.
01:42:52.000 Uh, she is a good singer, but no, she's uh she's she's a wonderful, she's got a 501c3 nonprofit that helps uh uh foster kinship care, it's called this foster kids, and she's serviced over 30,000 kids in Nevada alone.
01:43:05.000 Uh but she was five when she sang and growing.
01:43:07.000 Wow.
01:43:08.000 And and she's saying we use that clip of her singing and growing on many, many commercials.
01:43:13.000 And it put her through college, by the way.
01:43:14.000 Would you would it?
01:43:15.000 I don't know if this is if it's rude or anything, but would you be able to play something on our electric piece?
01:43:20.000 Possibly, yeah.
01:43:21.000 I could probably try we'll we'll we'll have we'll have that for the uncensored portion of the show.
01:43:25.000 All right.
01:43:25.000 I don't know if it's if it's hooked up or what we need to do to make it work or whatever.
01:43:30.000 We'll figure it out.
01:43:31.000 All right, Skyline says youth not taught values by parents are like empty clear glass, easy for communists to fill with any colored propaganda and turn into killers.
01:43:39.000 Parents must pass on values into kids, government won't.
01:43:42.000 This is the thing about Catholicism that I love.
01:43:44.000 I've spoken a lot of crap about Catholicism.
01:43:45.000 I have issues with authority controlling religion, but that they forced people to repeat the virtues.
01:43:50.000 This is a huge part of Catholicism.
01:43:52.000 You remember what are the seven virtues.
01:43:54.000 It's an integral.
01:43:55.000 And now we have a free speech society.
01:43:56.000 We don't compel speech.
01:43:58.000 And because of that, you see it as kind of drifted from remembering what these virtues are.
01:44:03.000 So it's important that we do it of our own free will so that we don't have some authority come in and try and force it.
01:44:10.000 Indeed.
01:44:11.000 Let's see what else we got.
01:44:13.000 Let's see.
01:44:14.000 Uh what is it?
01:44:15.000 Unit unit glue says, I'm wondering how much holy water can fix right now.
01:44:19.000 Watch the interviews with the exorcist that assisted with the movie Nefarious.
01:44:22.000 They speak very openly about how much the demonic loves technology.
01:44:26.000 So we did a whole episode on the Culture War podcast Friday morning.
01:44:29.000 Yeah.
01:44:29.000 Last writing about exorcisms.
01:44:31.000 And I I asked Father Father Aaron, what do you think a leftist would do if you tried to forcefully exercise them?
01:44:38.000 Can you imagine how they'd act?
01:44:40.000 It would look like the exorcist.
01:44:42.000 Now here's the funny thing about it.
01:44:43.000 Lots of squirming and screaming and right.
01:44:45.000 Like imagine if there were some leftists outside and a priest walked up and started saying, you know, the power of Christ compels you or whatever they say, they'd be going, now hold on.
01:44:56.000 Imagine what would happen if a Christian conservative was walking down the street and a priest tried to forcefully exercise him.
01:45:01.000 Yeah.
01:45:01.000 They'd be like, uh thank thank you, Father.
01:45:04.000 Yeah.
01:45:04.000 It's kind of crazy.
01:45:06.000 It's funny, right?
01:45:06.000 Must be father.
01:45:07.000 Maybe.
01:45:08.000 Yeah, he'd say, like, I I thank you, Father.
01:45:10.000 Yeah.
01:45:10.000 Like it would just be a calm and okay.
01:45:13.000 Um, I gotta be honest, man.
01:45:14.000 I think some people are possessed.
01:45:16.000 Because think about a normie.
01:45:18.000 A normal might be like, what are you doing?
01:45:19.000 They wouldn't freak out like leftists would.
01:45:22.000 Like these people at these rallies who like, I don't even want to begin to describe what some of these people are like.
01:45:26.000 Yeah.
01:45:27.000 You've seen the videos.
01:45:28.000 Makes you more like them when you get in their headspace like that.
01:45:30.000 Yeah.
01:45:31.000 That's why empathy is bad.
01:45:32.000 Sympathy is better.
01:45:33.000 I agree with Charlie when you hear the full explanation of that.
01:45:36.000 Empathy is actually feeling the feelings somebody else has.
01:45:39.000 And it's it's not necessarily a healthy place to be.
01:45:42.000 You don't want to actually feel those feelings.
01:45:44.000 You want to have some sympathy sympathy for someone who's going through pain.
01:45:48.000 You don't want to necessarily feel exactly what they're feeling, because it could be pretty bad.
01:45:52.000 And demonic.
01:45:54.000 Shane H. Wilder says, Ian is right.
01:45:55.000 Forgiveness does not equate justice being served, nor does it equate reconciliation.
01:46:00.000 The original Hebrew is not thou shalt not kill, it is thou shalt not murder.
01:46:04.000 Right.
01:46:05.000 Yeah, this is a really important distinction because Erica Kirk says she's she forgives the killer, and there are a bunch of like, I don't know, moderate lib types that were saying, like, what does it even mean?
01:46:15.000 Like, you don't want to go to jail or something like that.
01:46:17.000 And it's just like, no, she's saying she won't hold the hate in her heart.
01:46:20.000 It she won't let it weigh her down.
01:46:22.000 I think she certainly expects the death penalty.
01:46:24.000 Yeah.
01:46:25.000 Like someone mentioned in a chat that maybe Charlie would have wanted this this guy that's killed him to, if he could be involved that to have multiple life sentences so that he can actually repent.
01:46:38.000 I mean, I I think the general view among most of the Christians is you there there must be some sort of penance, and we must protect society, but it is preferable if you seek uh um what's the right way to describe this?
01:46:52.000 I guess absolution, you know, like come to terms with what you've done, ask for forgiveness.
01:46:58.000 And forgiveness doesn't mean you get to walk free and not face the penalty face the penalty for what you've done.
01:47:04.000 Maybe I think the general idea is that it's it's when you ask for forgiveness, it is just about releasing that that pain from within for both parties, if you truly mean it.
01:47:15.000 But you're gonna you're gonna go to jail.
01:47:16.000 In this instance, I think Utah wants the death penalty.
01:47:19.000 So all right, what do we got?
01:47:24.000 Kisham says, Kimmel's saying if Trump shuts down other shows, he hopes his viewers to respond tenfold.
01:47:29.000 Does that include terror threats?
01:47:31.000 That's literally what happened.
01:47:32.000 I I I don't know how you take it any other way, guys.
01:47:35.000 Yeah.
01:47:35.000 When Jimmy Kimmel, when a viewer shoots up an ABC station and he says, Thank you, maybe Jimmy Kimmel should have come on the air and says, I did you hear this guy shut up a station?
01:47:45.000 I mean, this is insane.
01:47:45.000 Guys, stop.
01:47:46.000 What are you doing?
01:47:47.000 No.
01:47:47.000 He said, do more.
01:47:49.000 I don't think people recognize where we are.
01:47:51.000 No, no, I took that back.
01:47:52.000 I think they get it.
01:47:53.000 I think at this point people are really starting to get it.
01:47:55.000 And it's terrifying.
01:47:58.000 All right.
01:48:00.000 Pinochet says, Ian doesn't acknowledge that the communist hunters have turned into globo homo communist demanders.
01:48:07.000 What who what do you mean?
01:48:08.000 Who's that?
01:48:09.000 Like the US government?
01:48:12.000 Oh, right, right, right.
01:48:12.000 Social technocrats.
01:48:14.000 They're demanding everyone be a there's a lot of that kind of stuff around here.
01:48:20.000 But he's saying that the global economic order used to be about vaguely right-leaning things, and now it's very much about global homogenation.
01:48:32.000 And stamping out populism.
01:48:33.000 And yeah, exactly.
01:48:36.000 All right, let's see what else we get.
01:48:38.000 I think we get uh one more ran he.
01:48:40.000 Briflex says Sinclair and uh Sinclair and next star percentage of majority Trump versus Kamala in 2024, using the location of ABC affiliates, Trump County Cities 24 Hera 16, not that lap sided.
01:48:53.000 What else have we?
01:48:56.000 All right, let's see what we got here.
01:48:58.000 Secession now says another show, Tim bitching about civil war.
01:49:01.000 I think I will skip it tonight.
01:49:03.000 I guess you don't want to pay attention to the news because we had a terror attack this morning on an ice facility, and there have been four Civil War tonight.
01:49:09.000 There's been four ice attacks now in the past.
01:49:12.000 Yeah.
01:49:12.000 There's been four ice attacks on ice facilities in the past two weeks.
01:49:17.000 The idea that we shouldn't cover this or discuss this is just ridiculous.
01:49:20.000 He can go and watch, you know, something on video games or or other topics, but to to if you are covering the news, you are covering these things, period.
01:49:30.000 So you should just come watch Pop Culture Crisis where we'll make fun of the savant and talk about the deranged leftist female power fantasies instead.
01:49:38.000 And if you're playing Halo while Marty's talking, you're listening to the guy that made the music.
01:49:42.000 That's right.
01:49:43.000 The game you're playing as you're playing it.
01:49:45.000 Kai says, Marty, thank you for making the music for my favorite game.
01:49:48.000 Also, damn you for taking part in making the horror.
01:49:51.000 Who at Bungie thought it was a good idea to add zombies to a space game with RPGs?
01:49:56.000 With RPGs.
01:49:58.000 Well, yeah, that was uh I I have to the when rocket launchers were in the hands of they were they weren't zombies.
01:50:04.000 They were too fast for zombies.
01:50:05.000 They were the flood, and that was me.
01:50:09.000 So um uh yeah, that was a little bit scary when when all of a sudden you ran into in the library and the flood had rocket launchers.
01:50:16.000 And the the first time you It was unfair.
01:50:18.000 The first time that you run into the flood, like the first encounter, it actually was pretty scary as far as like video games go.
01:50:24.000 Yeah, you know, it was really cool.
01:50:25.000 It was scared of kids.
01:50:27.000 Give them more weapons and bigger and well, yeah, as you went further, suddenly they had the ultimate weapon, and you're like, it you came around a corner and got a face full of rocket, and you're like, who shot that?
01:50:36.000 What the flood is shooting rockets now?
01:50:37.000 It was it was a little bit.
01:50:39.000 Did you also do all the uh Destiny original Destiny stuff?
01:50:41.000 Uh I did music for Destiny and and what all the actors, including Peter Dinklage.
01:50:46.000 Uh but I don't understand how they like the original Destiny story was just hodgepodge nonsense and everybody knew.
01:50:55.000 We loved the game anyway.
01:50:56.000 You realize I got fired just before it came out.
01:50:58.000 Well, I don't know.
01:50:59.000 I did is it because you wanted to actually was.
01:51:04.000 I I uh there's a there's I I'm working on a book, believe it or not, and uh it will tell my story of my time at Bungie and in video games.
01:51:12.000 But yeah, there was a there was some dis discussions and disagreements about how that whole thing was handled.
01:51:17.000 And my story was uh trashed.
01:51:20.000 Uh the original story that we had been working on got trashed, and then they were gonna try to fix it in the at the last minute.
01:51:25.000 And it was like that was impossible.
01:51:26.000 It's gonna be junk, it's gonna be garbage.
01:51:28.000 I mean, it largely was with the gameplay.
01:51:31.000 Gameplay was good.
01:51:32.000 Yeah, but uh man, it's this is this is why, 2014?
01:51:35.000 Exactly.
01:51:35.000 2014 because I mean my buddies would play the plays non-stop.
01:51:39.000 Yeah, back when you could actually farm uh the glitch.
01:51:43.000 When you farm shot into the cave and that's right.
01:51:45.000 Yeah, they took it away from us, and it's like why?
01:51:47.000 And they're like, because you're not playing the game we want.
01:51:49.000 And and well, I guess the general idea is you level up too quickly, it ruins the gameplay and things like that.
01:51:54.000 It shouldn't have been.
01:51:54.000 It was a the way the game that I was gonna work on was gonna be Halo meets World of Warcraft, and uh I uh I thought that would be pretty cool.
01:52:03.000 Wow.
01:52:03.000 Um, but I don't think that's what we ended up doing, and I wasn't happy.
01:52:07.000 And the story got junked.
01:52:09.000 Did you play it pretty extensively?
01:52:10.000 I'd imagine you did.
01:52:11.000 Only when I was working on it.
01:52:13.000 I didn't play what was shipped.
01:52:14.000 Because you know, it was so it one of the things I really loved about the original World of Warcraft and the original Destiny was in uh World of Warcraft we called it glitch hopping.
01:52:22.000 Yeah, you could exploit map terrain and go into unexplored areas, and then you could learn about upcoming expansions.
01:52:27.000 And in uh Destiny, you could do that with a sparrow.
01:52:30.000 You could go up to a wall and then you could click through the no through the wall or whatever.
01:52:34.000 And then we found areas that weren't previously released, and they took it all away from us.
01:52:38.000 And it's like then the game becomes really boring.
01:52:41.000 The one thing I will say about Destiny is it probably has one of the worst stories I've ever seen for any game ever from start to finish.
01:52:48.000 Every expansion has just been the most absurd, stupid, poorly written garbage.
01:52:52.000 I'm sorry if that's offensive to you.
01:52:54.000 I don't know.
01:52:54.000 Maybe it's to me.
01:52:55.000 I I was I wasn't there, so and I was not happy with it.
01:52:58.000 I can't remember the last one I played.
01:53:00.000 Um I think it was when you when you unlocked the darkness or whatever, and I was just like, they have no idea what they're doing.
01:53:06.000 This story is just such cockamami BS and it really ruined it for me.
01:53:11.000 What was the destiny of in the of the story?
01:53:15.000 Yeah.
01:53:15.000 And it's I mean, that's like the original traveler was completely different, the original ghost was completely different.
01:53:20.000 The the even the gameplay was gonna be different than what ended up happening, and like for example, all the all the uh AI uh companions were gonna go on missions with you, and you wouldn't have just one ghost that was just spewing uh mindless uh are you allowed to give us the story?
01:53:37.000 I've already been sued and counter sued and been counter-sued and found in contempt that that's all behind me now.
01:53:42.000 I've I'm past all of it.
01:53:43.000 So you can't?
01:53:44.000 I can.
01:53:45.000 Oh, okay.
01:53:45.000 So can you elevator pitch what the original story was supposed to be?
01:53:48.000 Um wow.
01:53:50.000 That that would be a hard elevator pitch, but it was like I said, it was gonna be Destiny, uh was gonna be World of Warcraft and Halo come together.
01:53:59.000 So the story would evolve as you're playing with your friends.
01:54:03.000 So for example, the crow was a character who ended up being someone who was like gonna be this cool uh your mercenary kind of outlaw.
01:54:11.000 You didn't know if you could trust him, and he was gonna go on missions with you, and you'd find loot and you'd find stuff, and you'd uncover the the outer belt that had his sister was and was ruling it, and it was just gonna be all sorts of cool things like that.
01:54:22.000 You know, the you know you know with the story changed so drastically, we got rid of entire uh characters like Rasputin and some other things.
01:54:30.000 Well, these still in it, sort of no, but I mean the names are there, but it's it's not the story we had.
01:54:35.000 I think one of the worst things about it was they I don't think the people at Bungie understood that I wanted to see humanity's um I wanted to see victory.
01:54:43.000 Yeah, and so all they kept giving us was defeat.
01:54:45.000 Yeah, and so every time this is why I basically stopped playing, because every expansion was basically like humans lose again, and I'm like, stop, stop losing.
01:54:54.000 Battle Star I wanted to come back to the game.
01:54:56.000 I wanted the expansion to be like there's a new city, and then it's like humanity is reviving and you're reclaiming planets.
01:55:02.000 Instead, it's just like nah, you're losing.
01:55:04.000 Yeah, you're losers.
01:55:05.000 I think Battlestar Galactica pulled that off in the storyline.
01:55:09.000 I don't know if you're familiar with the Brett fascinating uh storyline because they're running from these robot AI creatures that are distributed.
01:55:15.000 Of course, the problem with that is everybody turned out to be a robot.
01:55:18.000 I mean, is it robot?
01:55:20.000 No, wait, they're all robot.
01:55:21.000 By the end, it was like I swear everyone started strong and there was just them losing over and over again.
01:55:25.000 Where's the yeah, uh the destiny had a very complex story, and by the time I saw the rewritten script, and I had to work on some of that script because I was sort of biting my time before I got fired.
01:55:36.000 I had put in my, you know, I uh I object, and nobody cared.
01:55:40.000 Well uh was the line uh I don't have time to explain why I don't have time.
01:55:44.000 I was gonna ask why I recorded that line and I was like, I remember sitting at a table read actually being the guy reading that line, and I just looked around I was gonna ask you what was the reason the stranger didn't have time to explain why she didn't have a lot of things.
01:55:58.000 It was because the writer didn't know what to say.
01:56:03.000 Couldn't you get a 15-year-old kid and be like, hey, draw a picture and we'll make that the reason?
01:56:08.000 Yes, that could have happened.
01:56:10.000 That's sort of what I was suggesting, at least.
01:56:12.000 And look, I think I think they made money off the game, so you know.
01:56:15.000 And I made money when Sony bought Bungie because I I sued for my uh founder's stock.
01:56:19.000 And they had to give me my founder stock.
01:56:22.000 And then I waited until Sony bought them, and then I was like, All right.
01:56:25.000 You know, I do I I I think the gameplay is was largely good.
01:56:30.000 I think it's it's it's it's broken at a certain point, but Destiny uh and Destiny 2, me and my friends played non-stop.
01:56:37.000 I I think my my buddies still play it all the time, actually.
01:56:39.000 I don't even know.
01:56:40.000 The raids, did you play like the fur of like any of the raids?
01:56:42.000 Oh, yeah, all of them do.
01:56:44.000 Oh man.
01:56:45.000 I remember the guy who designed the raids, he said, Marty, the thing you want to have Destiny B, it's not the game, but it is in the raids.
01:56:51.000 And I'm like, sorry, Luke.
01:56:53.000 That was Luke's myth.
01:56:54.000 The glass what was it called?
01:56:55.000 Yeah, the first one was uh glass songs vault of glass.
01:56:59.000 Vault of glass, Dude.
01:57:00.000 And then we would push um what's the what's the we push them off the edge?
01:57:03.000 We would we would big round thing.
01:57:05.000 No, no, the uh the the giant Vex.
01:57:07.000 Oh the original the original cheese was that you'd force him to walk off the edge and kill himself and instantly win.
01:57:13.000 Okay.
01:57:13.000 Man, that was so much fun.
01:57:14.000 Yeah, Vault of Glass, the Vex.
01:57:16.000 I forgot the the guy's name.
01:57:18.000 I'm sure people in the chat are gonna remember.
01:57:20.000 And then uh, oh dude, um who was the uh the son of man, it's been so long.
01:57:26.000 When you with the the the other raid, the expansion into the dark or whatever it was.
01:57:31.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:57:32.000 Oryx was the big guy.
01:57:33.000 Okay, right?
01:57:34.000 Who was the who was the Is there a chained up guy?
01:57:36.000 Is that what you're talking about?
01:57:37.000 Like when it was no see, I I I never played the final shipping versions of of the game, so I don't know how to I still play a little bit of Destiny Disney 2.
01:57:44.000 Yeah, I like it.
01:57:47.000 It's not so great now.
01:57:49.000 The most the most recent expansion is the same.
01:57:51.000 Crota.
01:57:51.000 That's what I heard.
01:57:51.000 Crotage.
01:57:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:57:53.000 The Crota raid.
01:57:54.000 Yeah, I remember.
01:57:54.000 Oh man.
01:57:55.000 Crota the son of Oryx.
01:57:56.000 Have they successfully made a game that would be a cross between Halo and I don't think anybody has, no.
01:58:01.000 And it might be the problem is that that might be a hard one.
01:58:03.000 No, part of the reason why I started playing Destiny was because the actual gunplay was so similar to Halo.
01:58:08.000 Well, the gunplay was, but the the the what we could do with scripting events inside the game so you could have a sense of flow and progression and victory.
01:58:20.000 And even I I'll I can tell you one of the things I remember when this decision was made, it was like, well, you know, not everybody can be a hero.
01:58:29.000 And I'm like, uh but if you're playing a game, you want to be a hero.
01:58:33.000 It's the point of playing video games.
01:58:35.000 Was it to make people be bad or something?
01:58:37.000 No, it was just like this is what's gonna want you to cause you to want to play with your friends and have and and join up with other people in the in the universe.
01:58:46.000 We had no control over the what we what we used to call the AI.
01:58:51.000 So the the the characters that are AI characters that play along with you.
01:58:55.000 We had no way to control them inside the game.
01:58:57.000 Yeah.
01:58:58.000 We couldn't script things.
01:58:59.000 And so I said, Well, where are the friendly Marines?
01:59:02.000 Where's the friendly AI?
01:59:03.000 Where's the people who are going along with you?
01:59:05.000 That's that's part of what Halo is.
01:59:07.000 You can't get rid of that.
01:59:08.000 And they're like, well, we have to for these technical reasons.
01:59:10.000 And I'm like, okay, well, we need technical reasons that brings that back because we're gonna lose something really important in the way the gamers feel about who they are in the game and how they're respected.
01:59:21.000 And it's like, oh yeah, other players that you meet along the way are gonna give you that.
01:59:25.000 I'm like, no, they're not.
01:59:26.000 Yeah, fault.
01:59:26.000 They're just there are other schlubs out in the world.
01:59:28.000 All at 76 tried that.
01:59:30.000 And then it whoops.
01:59:32.000 I will say this Vault of Glass, they've never lived up to it.
01:59:35.000 Uh and and I presumably because it was the first raid, it was the in-game.
01:59:39.000 And so the complexity, the puzzles, the gameplay.
01:59:42.000 See, they were able to do it only in the raids could they do the scripting that was similar to Halo.
01:59:46.000 And that's what Luke told me.
01:59:47.000 He says, Well, don't worry, Marty, we're doing it in the raid.
01:59:50.000 And I'm like, Luke, that's not the game.
01:59:51.000 That's uh that's a little bonus extra part of the game.
01:59:54.000 Because the raids take six people, and not everybody not everybody's really that social.
01:59:59.000 Some people just want to do stuff.
02:00:00.000 Like the dungeons, you can get away with doing solo, right?
02:00:03.000 But but the raids and stuff like that, which is you know it organize.
02:00:07.000 Let me let me let me you play World of Warcraft?
02:00:09.000 Uh I played a little bit, but not much.
02:00:11.000 I I used I played it when it when it first came out back in vanilla, level 60, uh tier two PvP rogue, all that good stuff.
02:00:17.000 Okay.
02:00:17.000 That was a destroyer, field marshal gear, all that good stuff.
02:00:20.000 That means I'm obviously not the best.
02:00:21.000 I didn't have Grand Marshall and you still felt like a hero.
02:00:24.000 I get it.
02:00:24.000 No, I just it was it was really difficult to get that gear at the time.
02:00:28.000 Um Alterk Valley was the best.
02:00:30.000 Yeah, it is.
02:00:30.000 And uh, but you know, I can tell you where they broke the game.
02:00:34.000 And it started to come around in the in the vanilla game, you had to make friends.
02:00:40.000 You had no choice.
02:00:41.000 And those friends attached you to the game.
02:00:43.000 So we had I think we had Team Speak at the time.
02:00:46.000 That's what we used.
02:00:47.000 Man, this is what is this 20 years ago?
02:00:49.000 And so I'm running around and I'm like level 30 something rogue, I got no idea what's going on.
02:00:54.000 And then someone comes up and they're like, Are you in a guild yet?
02:00:56.000 And I'm like, I don't know.
02:00:56.000 I'm trying to do um uh uh what's that play Hogger?
02:01:00.000 No, that's like level 10, bro.
02:01:01.000 Level 30 was um uh uh what what what was it?
02:01:04.000 That's the the uh Ungoro.
02:01:06.000 No, you're talking about like dark dark mall.
02:01:08.000 What is it?
02:01:08.000 Um no, it's the it's the red area and the c it's been so long since I played Venusaur.
02:01:12.000 Adlands?
02:01:13.000 It's the you go into the cave, I don't know, it's a level 30 dungeon uh instance.
02:01:16.000 And so anyway.
02:01:17.000 With all those ogres, those big ogres.
02:01:19.000 The the no the trugs.
02:01:20.000 Okay, or whatever.
02:01:21.000 But anyway, uh so I I end up joining a guild, and then they're like, here's our our server for for team speaker, whatever.
02:01:28.000 Then I joined and they're like, hey, what's up, man?
02:01:30.000 Welcome to the guild.
02:01:31.000 And I was like, hey, how's it going?
02:01:32.000 And they're like, hey, you know, my so-and-so, like, here's what we're doing.
02:01:35.000 Uh let us know if you ever need any help or any materials or whatever, like, let us know.
02:01:38.000 And then I'm like, cool.
02:01:39.000 And then all of a sudden I was turn going online and it was like a friends list again, like when I was a kid on AIM.
02:01:45.000 They got rid of that for the auto-raid function.
02:01:48.000 Now, I mean, the last time I played, I think was Legion or something.
02:01:52.000 No, no, it was it was Shadow Shadowlands, is that what it's called?
02:01:54.000 That's been so long.
02:01:55.000 Uh but you go in and you click, I want to go on a raid, and you click it, and then it just randomly pairs you with 40 people that you don't know.
02:02:01.000 They're stupid, easy and boring.
02:02:03.000 And I was like, this game sucks.
02:02:04.000 Yeah, man.
02:02:05.000 You used to have to find a warlock and befriend him so that he could teleport you to the dungeon to go play with friends.
02:02:10.000 And now you just click a button.
02:02:11.000 I don't know.
02:02:12.000 It's like this age of uh Aldeman.
02:02:15.000 Alderman, that's what I was trying to think of.
02:02:17.000 Alderman.
02:02:18.000 All right, let's grab uh we'll grab I'll grab one more here.
02:02:22.000 I'm getting lost in all video games, man.
02:02:23.000 Sorry.
02:02:24.000 Simon Keys has many of us said this is going to take a war to stop the existential threat to the people of our once free republic.
02:02:30.000 Tim and friends, now we get to see if we can navigate and survive a fully mature communist rebellion.
02:02:35.000 I think we're winning.
02:02:36.000 I think we will win.
02:02:38.000 But the night is always darkest before the dawn.
02:02:41.000 And so we can see these terror attacks are the recoiling temper tantrum of violent psychopaths who can't accept that they've lost.
02:02:48.000 And we have the weight of government behind us to stop these criminals, as we should, and these terrorists, and we are going to restore peace to the republic.
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02:03:06.000 Marty, do you want to shout anything out?
02:03:08.000 Uh yeah, everybody go to uh Marty for Congress.com.
02:03:12.000 And by the way, you can find out everything I believe in, and you can also contribute to me there.
02:03:16.000 Now the reason it's contributing is good is good for your soul, but it also shows the Republican Party that I have people out there in the real world who uh support me.
02:03:26.000 So Marty for Congress.com and I want to get to Congress and start doing the right thing.
02:03:31.000 Is it the word Marty for F O R FOR, yes, thank you?
02:03:34.000 For Congress.
02:03:35.000 I should have bought both URLs.
02:03:37.000 It's not too late.
02:03:38.000 Domains, I should have done it.
02:03:39.000 Yes, you're right.
02:03:40.000 Get it to me.
02:03:40.000 Okay, we're gonna oh somebody probably just bought it.
02:03:44.000 I'm gonna go put on Destiny One after this.
02:03:46.000 The music's good, I can tell you that.
02:03:49.000 No more Peter Dinklage, though.
02:03:50.000 It's Nolan Northright.
02:03:51.000 I got all the Peter Dinklage.
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02:08:36.000 that's because we're alive in the Discord.
02:08:38.000 Lucky Duck.
02:08:38.000 Yeah, but but anyway, uh we're talking about how Destiny could have been the best IP of our generation.
02:08:44.000 The story sucked, and I'm like it was a voice acting ass poor.
02:08:47.000 No, it was great.
02:08:47.000 Oh, yeah.
02:08:50.000 And and I mean, we had Nathan Phillian, we had I mean I had all sorts of cast.
02:08:55.000 And they killed him and they brought him back though.
02:08:57.000 Yeah.
02:08:57.000 They killed him.
02:08:58.000 It's great.
02:08:59.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I worked with Nathan all the way back to uh Halo 3 was in Halo 3, and so was Adam Baldwin.
02:09:04.000 Now he's Guy Gardner.
02:09:06.000 Oh, is he really?
02:09:07.000 Yeah.
02:09:08.000 Oh, he had Adam Baldwin too.
02:09:11.000 You worked with Adam Baldwin too.
02:09:12.000 Yeah, that's so awesome.
02:09:13.000 I just want I want to shout out here.
02:09:16.000 I wanna I bet you we could.
02:09:17.000 I bet you I could call.
02:09:18.000 I want to shout out Peacemaker if you guys been watching Peacemaker.
02:09:21.000 There's uh I think what James Gunn is doing is absolutely fantastic with the with the DC universe, thank God.
02:09:26.000 And uh something good.
02:09:29.000 Yeah, yeah, I I agree.
02:09:30.000 I like the I'm a big fan of MADC fan.
02:09:32.000 And so the scene is Peacemaker is auditioning for the Justice Gang.
02:09:36.000 Okay, I did see that.
02:09:37.000 I saw the first episode.
02:09:38.000 It's it's hilarious.
02:09:39.000 It's so good.
02:09:40.000 He he walks in and it's uh Maxwell Lord, Guy Gardner and Hot Girl.
02:09:45.000 By the way, Maxwell Lord is his brother.
02:09:48.000 Yeah, he's yeah, of course.
02:09:49.000 He James loves doing the same actors.
02:09:51.000 And uh he thinks he's turning the mic off, but it's broken, so it's on.
02:09:54.000 And then he goes, uh, he's like, Mr. Peacemaker, uh, can you describe your abilities and turns it off?
02:09:58.000 And then Philly in his guy Gardner goes, besides sucking dick.
02:10:03.000 Then when he finds out that the microphone's been on the whole time, he's like, How many times did I mention that lady's camel toe?
02:10:09.000 I I will say the show isn't for me, like I just I love the first I love the first season of Peacemaker, but that humor I think I just outgrew in my late thirties.
02:10:18.000 I outgrew the the James Gunn humor, and it was just too much of a a shock to come from Superman, which he's like, This is for kids.
02:10:26.000 Your kids should go see this.
02:10:27.000 But if you want to follow the DCU, you gotta watch Peacemaker, which is not made for children, which I do not like.
02:10:34.000 Yeah, you know what's really funny is if you watch any James Gunn film, it's the same actors all the way through.
02:10:39.000 Oh, yeah.
02:10:39.000 Like uh I just watched Bright Burn again, which was produced by him, and it's like literally his wife is in it.
02:10:44.000 And you know, it's like I mean, that was the real Nepo baby.
02:10:47.000 This is like, we're rebooting the whole universe, except my wife.
02:10:51.000 Well, I mean Rick Flagg.
02:10:53.000 Uh well, they brought in Frank Grillo to play the because it wasn't but no, it was it was uh tall enough.
02:10:59.000 It was not it was what it was he's Frank, he's uh Rick Flag senior in this one.
02:11:02.000 I know, and he's not tall enough.
02:11:03.000 Yeah.
02:11:04.000 His son is six five and he's five's seven.
02:11:06.000 Frank Grillo is great.
02:11:07.000 I know, I know, it's fantastic.
02:11:08.000 So he's really, really great.
02:11:10.000 It's just that they they they have a guy whose child is like a foot and a half taller than him, and I'm like, his mom must have been huge.
02:11:19.000 I forget that actor who played Rick Flag in Suicide Squad, but he's that actor's great.
02:11:23.000 He was the one from the show The Killing, the one that was based on like the Danish.
02:11:26.000 He's still in Peacemaker.
02:11:27.000 Yeah, because they're in an alternate dimension now.
02:11:29.000 And then that's the thing the I only watched the one episode, but it has the stuff that James Gunn does that I really really like, which is like he has the crude humor, like mentioning like the woman's camel toe.
02:11:40.000 But then you see the scene where he, you know, he's in the pocket dimension with his dad and his brother, and there's actual emotional resonance there.
02:11:48.000 So I think my theory is that for those that are watching the show, uh, if you know the if you know the backstory that they've presented so far, in season one, his dad's a white supremacist.
02:11:56.000 Do you know the show Peacemaker?
02:11:57.000 No.
02:11:58.000 I'll just run through Casina.
02:11:59.000 Yeah, so uh Peacemaker's dad is a white supremacist, and he's got a power suit that he basically got because they found when when they were they they revealed this in the second season when they were kids living in the in the forest or whatever in the hills, their white supremacist dad shot and killed an alien and stole a dimensional portal device, which brought them to a pocket dimension where he got access to this crazy technology.
02:12:17.000 And in the main storyline, his dad's what is it, like white red dragon or something?
02:12:21.000 White dragon.
02:12:21.000 White dragon.
02:12:22.000 He's a white supremacist with a super suit.
02:12:24.000 And at the end of the season, Peacemaker shoots him in the head, kills him.
02:12:27.000 In the second season, he finds another door that leads to an alternate reality where his dad and his his brother's alive.
02:12:33.000 His dad's happy go lucky.
02:12:35.000 He's like a well-beloved superhero, part of a team called like the trio or whatever.
02:12:40.000 And my theory, and it's not my theory, it's just like a general fan theory.
02:12:44.000 It's a universe where the Nazis won.
02:12:46.000 And so the reason why the dad is all happy and smiley and like, hey, kids, is because he's a white supremacist in a white supremacist country.
02:12:54.000 And when in in the show, you don't notice this, but there's no like everyone's white when he goes in this dimension.
02:13:00.000 So the fan theory is he's an Earth X, where you're gonna be able to do that, DC, like they ran that on the CW version of the show.
02:13:07.000 They did a crisis on Earth X episode.
02:13:10.000 That is like one of the craziest things about that first season of Peacemaker's like everybody's mad at his dad for being a white supremacist, not for raising a murderous child who's trained to kill people.
02:13:20.000 Yeah, I like the kick.
02:13:22.000 It's on uh it's on HBO.
02:13:24.000 HBO.
02:13:24.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:13:25.000 Go check that.
02:13:26.000 Are you guys like do I I think about like video games and movies merging right now?
02:13:30.000 Do you think about that a lot, Brett?
02:13:32.000 I was gonna say to Phil is like, if you want to talk about something funny, ask Phil about his thoughts on the Halo TV series.
02:13:37.000 Oh god, that was an atrocious that should have been a boring.
02:13:40.000 But it's always the case.
02:13:41.000 When has a video game movie ever been good?
02:13:46.000 Mortal Kombat 1995.
02:13:48.000 It's a fantastic movie.
02:13:49.000 I don't care what anybody says.
02:13:50.000 Yes, okay, we get it.
02:13:51.000 That's the best.
02:13:52.000 Just right out of it.
02:13:53.000 What did you think about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
02:13:56.000 It's not a video game movie.
02:13:57.000 Okay, yeah, that is.
02:13:58.000 It was more of a cartoon.
02:13:59.000 Oh, by the way, by the way, by the way, I have the original Teenage Ninja Turtles comic right there on the shelf.
02:14:04.000 I used to stare at that on the wall at JC Comics.
02:14:06.000 The 1990 Teenage Mutant.
02:14:08.000 Yeah, C Twitch is still the best.
02:14:10.000 That's the kind of thing my games are in.
02:14:11.000 Is that kind of container with a rating on it?
02:14:14.000 Yeah, I have a my I signed it, so my pictures in between.
02:14:17.000 The original Deadpool as well.
02:14:19.000 I feel like we're headed to it.
02:14:20.000 I had an original vision, but it's I got Deadpool's first appearance.
02:14:23.000 I should bring in.
02:14:24.000 I should bring up my comments right there.
02:14:25.000 Is it X Force number 15, is it?
02:14:28.000 That is the original.
02:14:29.000 That says introducing Deadpool.
02:14:31.000 I'm gonna grab it.
02:14:32.000 And Domino.
02:14:33.000 You know, I should have.
02:14:34.000 That's the first appearance.
02:14:34.000 I I got baseball cards and I've got uh I've got comics from my childhood.
02:14:39.000 This is right when I started collecting comics.
02:14:40.000 That is the very first Deadpool.
02:14:42.000 My friend gave me new mutants.
02:14:43.000 But what it says is it says introducing Deadpool in it.
02:14:45.000 Yeah, I think I have this, Tim.
02:14:46.000 And he wasn't goofy, he was serious.
02:14:48.000 Yeah, he was cheap.
02:14:49.000 He was real boring in the world.
02:14:50.000 He was he was a he was a clone of Slade from DC.
02:14:52.000 Real boring.
02:14:53.000 He fought cable and he like did nothing.
02:14:55.000 I was like, who is this?
02:14:56.000 What is the point of this chip?
02:14:57.000 He was a clone of Deathstroke from DC.
02:14:59.000 They were like, Okay, let's let's make that character and try and rip off, you know.
02:15:02.000 I brought it up because I feel like as AI is developing, we're headed into a realm where you are the first person character in a video game movie.
02:15:09.000 It becomes all one sort of art form.
02:15:11.000 Oh bro, we're fucking cooked, dude.
02:15:13.000 We're we're like three years away from there's not gonna be any IP anymore.
02:15:16.000 You know what's gonna happen?
02:15:17.000 I'm gonna I'm gonna put on my fucking brain chip and I'm gonna say to the AI machine, say, I want to play a play a Destiny video game first person, but fix the fucking story, and then I'm gonna plug in your script, and then it's gonna just uh AI generate the game, and it's gonna go my brain's gonna go in it.
02:15:33.000 Like in that weird ass black mirror where the guy becomes an Asian chick and bangs the black dude.
02:15:37.000 Oh, that's right.
02:15:38.000 I remember that.
02:15:38.000 That was a good one.
02:15:39.000 Do you know what the actually the best video game movie is?
02:15:41.000 It's Cran Turismo, which wasn't actually based on the video game, it was based on the concept of the game.
02:15:45.000 Need for speed.
02:15:46.000 Need for speed.
02:15:47.000 What other ones?
02:15:49.000 They always fuck them up.
02:15:50.000 They gotta make them Oh, Tron?
02:15:52.000 That was a movie based off of video game.
02:15:54.000 Yeah, or was it the other way around?
02:15:55.000 Oh, it's the other way around.
02:15:56.000 Well, you did make a Tron game, but it was based on after the Major.
02:15:59.000 Also, the Sonic movie was done well.
02:16:01.000 The universe was a good one.
02:16:02.000 Fair point.
02:16:02.000 Sonic movie club arcade game.
02:16:04.000 I give you that.
02:16:04.000 The Sonic movies were done well.
02:16:06.000 Oh.
02:16:07.000 Because they they focused on the villain.
02:16:09.000 Uh uh, what was the uh TV series that was based uh last couple years ago that came out last year?
02:16:17.000 Uh the first season of Last of Us, I think.
02:16:18.000 Yeah, not the second season.
02:16:19.000 I I I've well to be fair, the the the first season had that extended gay sex stuff, and I'm like, yeah, okay, I don't know.
02:16:26.000 They put that in episodes three and they like they like put it in two specific episodes and like cordoned those episodes off.
02:16:32.000 Uh last thing before we go to callers, the last of us video game.
02:16:35.000 Do you know what it is?
02:16:36.000 It is a it is a uh average male power fantasy.
02:16:41.000 You are a middle-aged man and you rescue a young girl and try and save her from a zombie apocalypse.
02:16:48.000 You're a father figure trying to be a hero, and that is the game.