Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Liberal Media CAUGHT In BOGUS LEAK, Trump DID NOT Fire Mike Waltz, HE PROMOTED HIM

00:02:45.000 Donald Trump is a 5D chess mastermind.

00:02:50.000 I'm going to do the opposite of what these liberal podcasters do and just blow smoke up Trump, if you know what I mean.

00:02:57.000 He's perfect.

00:02:58.000 He can never do anything wrong.

00:03:00.000 The story is that Mike Waltz got fired.

00:03:02.000 I was seeing it all day.

00:03:04.000 News came out.

00:03:06.000 Politico reported.

00:03:06.000 Fox News picked it up.

00:03:08.000 And I started thinking, really?

00:03:09.000 National Security Advisor Mike Waltz got fired.

00:03:12.000 Donald Trump said he wasn't going to fire him.

00:03:13.000 So when I saw this reporting unit I did, I didn't touch the story.

00:03:17.000 And I'm proud of myself because what's the real story?

00:03:20.000 Trump promoted Mike Waltz.

00:03:21.000 Mike Waltz moving from a staffer position to a cabinet-level position requiring Senate confirmation.

00:03:26.000 This is a promotion.

00:03:28.000 And the media was reporting that he got fired.

00:03:30.000 And from this, all of the op-eds go nuts.

00:03:34.000 Now, the reason why I say Donald Trump is a master, and this is 5D chess, he was coloring the water.

00:03:41.000 You know what that means?

00:03:42.000 They know they have leaks in the administration.

00:03:45.000 So Trump sends out this information that he's going to fire Mike Waltz to somebody who knows.

00:03:51.000 Then he wants to see if the story breaks in the press because he will know who leaked it.

00:03:56.000 Now, I'm half kidding.

00:03:57.000 I'm not going to play that game.

00:03:58.000 I don't know that Trump was actually planning on doing this.

00:04:01.000 Somebody got word that Mike Waltz would be leaving his national security advisor.

00:04:04.000 They gave the story to the press.

00:04:05.000 Maybe.

00:04:06.000 Maybe this was coloring the water.

00:04:08.000 And the reason why I think it may be is because you've already heard from Secretary Kristi Noem, as well as Kash Patel, that they're going to start polygraphing people to figure out who's leaking to the press.

00:04:17.000 So maybe this was Trump's big play, because I got to tell you, I'm loving this.

00:04:22.000 If you Google search the Mike Waltz story, you get all of these perfect headlines that say things like Mike Waltz out as National Security Advisor, now in as UN Ambassador.

00:04:34.000 How is that possible?

00:04:35.000 Because they changed the headlines once the news changed.

00:04:38.000 But if you take a look at Reddit posts, you can see it was a spattering of op-eds from all the liberal press saying Trump fired him, his administration is in chaos, and that's the narrative they wanted to run with.

00:04:51.000 Now they're rushing to update their headlines and issue corrections, although they're never going to admit it.

00:04:55.000 They're going to do what's called a stealth edit.

00:04:58.000 So we'll talk about that, my friends.

00:04:59.000 We've also got another story.

00:05:00.000 Kilmar Braco Garcia, you know that guy that Democrats love to defend?

00:05:03.000 Well, he threatened to murder his wife and then bragged he would get away with it and no one could do anything about it.

00:05:09.000 So apparently his wife filed another domestic violence claim prior to the 2021 claim, and Democrats are now desperately trying to pivot away from the Maryland man and just say, no, no, it's all about due process.

00:05:23.000 Sure it is.

00:05:24.000 I got another one for you.

00:05:25.000 Two stories.

00:05:26.000 NBC News says a woman was deported and she took her two-year-old with her, creating this legal limbo.

00:05:34.000 And the judge says, we don't know how this kid got removed.

00:05:36.000 And the Democrats are saying Trump deported a two-year-old American citizen.

00:05:41.000 Well, the New York Times reported that a woman and a man were both deported, but their two-year-old stayed in America.

00:05:46.000 So this is what you get when you have 100% negative coverage no matter what.

00:05:51.000 There's no moral issue.

00:05:53.000 There's no principle.

00:05:54.000 The only issue they have is Trump is bad no matter what he does.

00:05:56.000 If a two-year-old stays, he's bad.

00:05:58.000 If a two-year-old leaves, he's bad.

00:06:00.000 That's the media today.

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00:08:15.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Rudyard Lynch.

00:08:19.000 Hi, everybody.

00:08:20.000 It's so good to be here again.

00:08:26.000 There are several different interesting things that happened today.

00:08:29.000 Are you good if I get right into the topic?

00:08:30.000 Well, we're going to do intros and come around.

00:08:32.000 Okay.

00:08:33.000 But did you want to start by saying you were wrong?

00:08:35.000 Yes, I was incorrect.

00:08:37.000 My prediction of a thousand deaths by today was obviously incorrect.

00:08:45.000 Well, you know, it is interesting that we did have the Tesla fires, the terror attacks.

00:08:49.000 So I think you were a little...

00:08:51.000 A little hot in your numbers, in your prediction, but we'll talk about it.

00:08:56.000 We'll talk about it.

00:08:57.000 There still is a lot of terror.

00:08:58.000 There still is a lot of violence, but certainly not that many.

00:09:01.000 Although, interestingly, people were tracking this when you made this prediction.

00:09:04.000 For those that don't know, when were you?

00:09:05.000 Was this like December or something?

00:09:07.000 So I made this prediction last April because I predicted there'd be a thousand deaths within the next year because I was talking to my friend Andrew Heaton.

00:09:16.000 Hi, Andrew, if you see this.

00:09:17.000 We've had him on the show, too.

00:09:18.000 Oh, interesting.

00:09:19.000 He's a good guy.

00:09:22.000 And I was on his podcast to talk about my prediction for why I think we're going to have a future revolution.

00:09:27.000 So we made a gentleman's agreement then, and I shouted out in your guys' show this December.

00:09:32.000 So real quick, you were saying from April to April?

00:09:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:09:35.000 Within the next one year.

00:09:36.000 Okay, you might not be wrong.

00:09:38.000 Again, please?

00:09:39.000 You might not be wrong.

00:09:40.000 I was under the impression that you were saying after the election in four months to April.

00:09:45.000 But we'll talk about this.

00:09:47.000 We'll go over it.

00:09:48.000 So you also got a YouTube channel, What If Alt History?

00:09:51.000 Yes.

00:09:52.000 Right on.

00:09:52.000 Well, it's going to be fun.

00:09:53.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:09:54.000 And Mary is here.

00:09:55.000 Hi, everyone.

00:09:55.000 My name is Mary Morgan.

00:09:57.000 You will usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at TimCast.

00:10:01.000 And we actually had Phil on today.

00:10:03.000 Hello, everybody.

00:10:04.000 My name is Phil Abonte.

00:10:05.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.

00:10:07.000 I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:10:09.000 Let's get into it.

00:10:10.000 All right.

00:10:10.000 Here's a story starting off with Daily Beast because we love it.

00:10:13.000 The real reason Trump fired Mike Waltz, he dared to give advice.

00:10:18.000 They published this one at 614.

00:10:21.000 They updated it at 632.

00:10:22.000 I am loving this story.

00:10:25.000 In an effort to just be the opposite of whatever it is that liberals are, I'm just going to say Trump is a genius who can do nothing wrong.

00:10:31.000 Everything is perfect.

00:10:32.000 There's no reason to criticize him ever.

00:10:34.000 No matter what he does, he's doing a good job.

00:10:36.000 So it's just counter Pac-Man now.

00:10:37.000 Yeah, just, well, I mean, Brian Tyler Cohen, Pac-Man, Luke Beasley, those are easy targets where literally every single video they have is Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:10:45.000 So I'll just do the opposite.

00:10:46.000 I think it's a good policy.

00:10:47.000 As a joke on my 10 a.m. segment, it was about Kilmar Abrego Garcia, but I just put Trump exclamation point in the title.

00:10:54.000 Just because?

00:10:56.000 So here's the story.

00:10:57.000 The Daily Beast, this is an example, this is why I pulled it up, it says he was fired.

00:11:00.000 But when you go to Mike Waltz fired on Google, if you search for it, all the headlines now read, he's out as National Security Advisor and tapped as UN Ambassador, which is a promotion from a staff-level position to a cabinet-level position.

00:11:16.000 However, if you want to see what the actual headlines are, Search Reddit as well, because the rules on Reddit are you can't change a headline like that.

00:11:23.000 You've got to repost.

00:11:24.000 So when you search Mike Waltz fired in Reddit, here's what you get.

00:11:28.000 Trump's National Security Advisor Mike Waltz and his something.

00:11:33.000 Trump came out and said he fired him because of signal issue.

00:11:35.000 They'd go from it's fake news, hoax, blah, blah, blah.

00:11:37.000 You have military Trump to oust National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.

00:11:41.000 Politics saying National Security Mike Waltz to step down.

00:11:44.000 Mike Waltz was doomed from the start.

00:11:46.000 Mike Waltz is losing support from the inside.

00:11:48.000 That's a month ago.

00:11:49.000 Mike Waltz has left the chat.

00:11:50.000 Trump ousts.

00:11:52.000 All of these headlines are basically saying, ha ha ha ha, he got fired.

00:11:56.000 Here's the story from the Hill.

00:11:58.000 Trump taps Mike Waltz as UN ambassador and names Rubio as national security advisor.

00:12:03.000 Let's keep it real simple.

00:12:05.000 National security advisor.

00:12:06.000 That's all it is.

00:12:07.000 It's a staff level position.

00:12:08.000 Trump says, you want to advise me on these issues?

00:12:10.000 I'll hire you.

00:12:11.000 Okay, welcome aboard.

00:12:12.000 UN ambassador.

00:12:14.000 Is a cabinet-level position that requires Senate confirmation.

00:12:17.000 That is a promotion.

00:12:18.000 Why did this happen?

00:12:19.000 It's fairly obvious.

00:12:21.000 Elise Stefanik was tapped to be U.N. ambassador in the Trump administration.

00:12:24.000 However, that would mean vacating her seat in Congress, putting the Republican thin two-seat majority at risk.

00:12:30.000 So Trump said, look, these elections that we're having, we don't want another special election.

00:12:35.000 I need you to stay in Congress.

00:12:37.000 So she steps down from this potential position and then moves to stay in her congressional seat.

00:12:43.000 But this leaves a hole.

00:12:44.000 Who's going to be the UN ambassador?

00:12:46.000 So without anybody else, Trump said, Mike Waltz, you know what?

00:12:50.000 Why don't you do it?

00:12:51.000 I'm going to give you the promotion and give you this cabinet level position.

00:12:54.000 Now, the question is, why did the media run with this fake story?

00:12:59.000 And a lot of people are bringing this up in the chat, and I believe this may be the case.

00:13:03.000 This is called coloring the water.

00:13:06.000 When you have a leak.

00:13:07.000 Here's what it means.

00:13:09.000 There are three plastic cups in a table, all filled with water, and under all three cups is a puddle of water.

00:13:14.000 One of the cups is leaking, you don't know which one.

00:13:16.000 So you put red dye, green dye, and red dye in each of them.

00:13:20.000 Whatever color the water on the table turns, you know which cup has the leak.

00:13:24.000 So the argument is, Trump whispers to somebody, I'm firing Mike Waltz.

00:13:29.000 That person runs to the press and screams, Mike Waltz is fired.

00:13:32.000 And then Trump waits to see if the press picks the story up.

00:13:36.000 And then he knows who is leaking this information.

00:13:39.000 Now, it might not be a single individual.

00:13:41.000 It could be a department.

00:13:41.000 But there is a lot of speculation that Trump leaked the first half of the story to see if a certain area of his administration would be leaking the information.

00:13:49.000 Then later in the day announces, in fact, Mike Waltz is going to be UN ambassador and he's not being fired at all.

00:13:55.000 So the media walked right into this one.

00:13:58.000 Well, I mean, it's they walked into it because that they're they're looking for any way that they can, you know, slime Trump any any kind of problem.

00:14:09.000 And in the administration, they're looking to focus on as much as they can, because I mean, they their entire business model is counter Trump, you know, and I don't see I don't see anything new in this.

00:14:22.000 And my question is, who was responsible for the signal leak and is there really any

00:14:27.000 I don't imagine.

00:14:33.000 I thought they already said it was like an intern or something who accidentally added them because they sausageed fingers it.

00:14:37.000 Wasn't it like...

00:14:38.000 From the signal?

00:14:39.000 Yeah, it was something like they...

00:14:41.000 It was an intern?

00:14:42.000 I don't know exactly who did it, but I heard there was some staff or intern set up the signal chat a day prior and they like sausageed fingers Goldberg into it or something.

00:14:50.000 I don't know if it should have been on signal in the first place.

00:14:54.000 That itself seems like...

00:14:57.000 A security failure?

00:14:59.000 I think the issue is that Signal disappears the messages that are supposed to be in the public record.

00:15:03.000 That's why it's wrong.

00:15:04.000 I don't care if they're using Signal.

00:15:05.000 Signal's encrypted.

00:15:06.000 The other thing as well is that they don't trust the American security establishment.

00:15:11.000 And so Signal is an independent, non-rest-of-American regime-aligned thing because any of the normal military systems they could use might be getting bugged by the other side.

00:15:23.000 Is there any alternative?

00:15:24.000 I mean, I just assumed that they had encrypted email services.

00:15:27.000 I gotta be honest.

00:15:28.000 I just thought that was a thing that they used.

00:15:29.000 They have internal internet?

00:15:33.000 Intranet?

00:15:34.000 But they don't actually have...

00:15:36.000 It's just too much of a hassle, I guess?

00:15:38.000 Well, the thing is, the intranet stuff, if I understand correctly, and I'm not an expert on top secret or the system that they use, but...

00:15:49.000 If I understand correctly, you have to be in a SCIF to access those computers.

00:15:55.000 Because those computers are only connected to other computers on the network, and you have to be in a secret facility.

00:16:04.000 I think there's another way to put it.

00:16:06.000 Mary, do you believe there's a deep state?

00:16:09.000 Sure.

00:16:10.000 I mean, there is a group of people who are hired that...

00:16:15.000 Persist in these executive-level and intelligence-level jobs, or I should say governmental-level jobs, whether or not a new administration comes in.

00:16:22.000 So Obama gets elected, there's holdovers from the Bush administration.

00:16:26.000 Then Trump gets elected, there's holdovers from Obama and Bush.

00:16:29.000 So we refer to those people that have been in government for decades without being elected as the deep state.

00:16:34.000 That's a simple way of putting it.

00:16:36.000 The next question is, do you believe that there are people working in government who are working to oppose Trump and his administration?

00:16:42.000 People who were hired by Trump?

00:16:44.000 No.

00:16:44.000 Well, I think people, including, yes, including people who were hired by Trump, yeah.

00:16:49.000 So what I see with this, why would they use Signal, you know, of all things, and why not go to the skiff or whatever?

00:16:55.000 Sounds to me like they actually trust Signal can't be breached by intelligence agents who they don't trust.

00:17:01.000 Well, when they let them in, which is the sausage fingers.

00:17:06.000 I don't know if I believe Sausage Fingers is the...

00:17:09.000 You think someone intentionally brought him in?

00:17:11.000 You're Occam's razoring it, but like...

00:17:13.000 I don't think so.

00:17:15.000 Sausage Fingers, that's the explanation.

00:17:18.000 Possibly.

00:17:19.000 Autocorrect?

00:17:19.000 What was his name?

00:17:21.000 The journalist.

00:17:22.000 Goldberg?

00:17:23.000 Was it Jeffrey Goldberg?

00:17:25.000 Or some other Jeffrey?

00:17:27.000 How does that happen?

00:17:29.000 No, I don't know.

00:17:30.000 Like, they were swiping.

00:17:31.000 They just meant to type Jeffrey something else.

00:17:33.000 Oh, come on.

00:17:33.000 I accidentally ordered an extra burrito the other day on DoorDash.

00:17:36.000 You could sausage fingers on accident.

00:17:37.000 It happens.

00:17:38.000 Like, I was swiping through the thing, and then I must have hit the plus when I was ordering my burrito bowl.

00:17:44.000 We put it in the fridge.

00:17:45.000 Somebody ate it.

00:17:45.000 So you don't think there was even a leaker to blame?

00:17:48.000 Not an intentional leak?

00:17:51.000 I think it was unintentional?

00:17:53.000 Yeah, because this is not how you leak stuff.

00:17:55.000 And nothing was really leaked.

00:17:57.000 I gotta be honest.

00:17:58.000 I still think there's a strong possibility Signalgate was they intentionally wanted this information to get out.

00:18:04.000 So they brought Goldberg in.

00:18:05.000 It was like a scripted group chat.

00:18:07.000 Yeah, it was the most...

00:18:08.000 Now you say this, and like, I'll say that.

00:18:10.000 But read what they said in that chat, and it's really mundane.

00:18:14.000 It's like only America can stand to defend our...

00:18:17.000 I was like, why are they talking like this?

00:18:18.000 And there's no shorthand either.

00:18:20.000 Yeah, I thought I heard some takes that it was more so to portray...

00:18:27.000 Vance as being anti-war.

00:18:30.000 Yeah, I guess anti-war, like leaning anti-war.

00:18:33.000 So it seems like that could be the case, but either way, it's not even a story.

00:18:37.000 Journalists get access to this information all the time.

00:18:39.000 The issue is that any reasonable human being would just respond with, guys, I shouldn't be in this chat.

00:18:45.000 You know, I don't want to have access.

00:18:47.000 Here's why I think that whole thing is fake.

00:18:50.000 Yo, if I accidentally got a text from the president, Hegseth, and Vance, I'm going to be like, Guys, stop talking right now.

00:18:56.000 I'm not supposed to be here.

00:18:57.000 I don't have access.

00:18:58.000 I don't have clearance.

00:18:59.000 Not if you're hostile to the president and you want to use it as a story.

00:19:02.000 Would you publicize the fact that that happened if it did?

00:19:06.000 No.

00:19:06.000 These are sources.

00:19:08.000 This is the crazy thing about how these journalists are scumbags, which is why I do lean towards, in this story with Mike Waltz, the Trump admin is just looking for ways to screw him over and insult him.

00:19:17.000 Trump just does it to their face, like on the ABC interview.

00:19:20.000 But I got a lot of people...

00:19:23.000 I just went and did interviews at the White House.

00:19:25.000 So I'm meeting with staffers, communications people.

00:19:29.000 We met a handful of them.

00:19:30.000 I'm not going to come out here and start screaming their names and talking about the things they're saying or doing.

00:19:35.000 They have a reasonable expectation of privacy when they're dealing with me on certain issues.

00:19:39.000 Now, I'll be honest, depending on the scale of information, if I accidentally got a text message from Donald Trump and I knew it was him and he said something like, I hate...

00:19:50.000 They're all a bunch of morons and I'm pro-choice and I'm going to do everything I can to make abortion legal.

00:19:55.000 Then I might.

00:19:56.000 I probably would be like, yo, what?

00:19:58.000 That's a crazy thing to be private messaging.

00:20:00.000 And that's seriously detrimental to his base.

00:20:03.000 It's deceptive.

00:20:04.000 In this regard, it was a private communication over a security issue without classified information or minimal information that could be considered classified.

00:20:12.000 So it was just nothing.

00:20:14.000 It was a waste of all of our time.

00:20:16.000 And it is now, too.

00:20:20.000 The media is trash.

00:20:21.000 Well, yeah.

00:20:22.000 I mean, the whole thing was, you know, Goldberg shouldn't have been in there, but the reason that he stayed in there and didn't make himself known and say, hey guys, is because he was looking for information that he could use to slime the president.

00:20:37.000 The fact that he's in there, as soon as he realized that he was in there, he was like, okay.

00:20:42.000 I'm going to stay here because if they say anything that I can make into a story, then I'm going to make it into a story.

00:20:49.000 He's been hostile to the president forever.

00:20:50.000 He was all on the Russia, Russia, Russia thing.

00:20:54.000 So when he said he was like afraid of...

00:20:57.000 The way that he framed it, he was like, oh, I left the chat because it was out of moral principle and I feared that I was...

00:21:07.000 He voluntarily left the chat, but he did screenshot everything, obviously.

00:21:11.000 Yeah, he stayed in there.

00:21:12.000 He voluntarily left after what amount of time?

00:21:14.000 I don't know how long.

00:21:15.000 When you screenshot the signal, doesn't it tell the other person?

00:21:19.000 No.

00:21:21.000 Snapchat does.

00:21:22.000 It does.

00:21:23.000 Maybe they should just do all of their communication on Snapchat, because that would be more transparent.

00:21:27.000 But, like, I don't know how long it was between him getting added and then him leaving.

00:21:32.000 But look, the point is, he was all in.

00:21:36.000 The whole Russia collusion thing.

00:21:37.000 I mean, he's from the Atlantic.

00:21:39.000 The Atlantic was after Trump from day one.

00:21:41.000 So he was all in on the Russia collusion thing previously.

00:21:44.000 He had a hard-on for Trump forever.

00:21:47.000 And the fact that he was in there, he knew that that was bad that he was in there.

00:21:51.000 So he just stayed until he could get enough information to go ahead and slime the administration.

00:21:57.000 That's all that it was.

00:21:58.000 So if he was actually a person...

00:22:01.000 The information that slimes the administration is the fact that he was at it, not really anything that was said.

00:22:05.000 Yeah, but I mean, he but the thing is, he wanted to have he wanted to have enough information that he could make something out of it.

00:22:12.000 Now, granted, the actual information that they exchanged in the Slack or in the the whatever it's called channel, like it's not that big of a deal.

00:22:21.000 They weren't actually giving out.

00:22:23.000 He was saying that when they were launching, but there was no actual classified information.

00:22:28.000 I'm changing my position.

00:22:29.000 I agree with Mary.

00:22:30.000 Trump is bad and the media is good.

00:22:31.000 That's not what I was saying, Tim.

00:22:34.000 Come on now.

00:22:35.000 The media is bad and Trump's administration makes mistakes sometimes.

00:22:38.000 Is that where we're at?

00:22:39.000 Yeah.

00:22:40.000 I'm totally fine with that.

00:22:42.000 I love when liberals are like, oh yeah, criticize Donald Trump.

00:22:45.000 And I'm like, he sausageed fingers his phone and typed covfefe once.

00:22:49.000 He fired 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria.

00:22:52.000 I mean, like, come on.

00:22:53.000 And that's low-hanging fruit.

00:22:55.000 I know the Tomahawk missiles in Syria is really easy.

00:22:57.000 There's other things to criticize him for.

00:22:58.000 The MS-13 thing is now something you can...

00:23:00.000 But, look.

00:23:02.000 You know, I went on Piers Morgan the other day and Piers asked if Joe Biden had done what Trump did, would I be defending him and saying he had a good administration?

00:23:11.000 I said, probably not.

00:23:12.000 Because Trump...

00:23:13.000 More aligned with my moral worldview.

00:23:15.000 And so when Trump makes mistakes, I'm forgiving because the greater mission of the Trump administration is good for my way of life.

00:23:23.000 The greater mission of Joe Biden is bad for my way of life.

00:23:27.000 That's why when Joe Biden does things like promoting transiting the kids and DEI, opening our borders, all of it is bad.

00:23:33.000 If you then combine that with other bad things like screwing up the economy and people's 401ks going down, I'd be like, this is a bad guy doing bad things.

00:23:42.000 Donald Trump, on the other hand, is securing the border, trying to bring manufacturing back, telling people to have babies.

00:23:48.000 These are things that I think are very, very good.

00:23:50.000 So when Trump enacts a plan and it's got a negative result, I say, well, look, I'm skeptical on the universal tariffs.

00:23:56.000 That's where I've always been.

00:23:57.000 And I do think we should not gloat about people's 401ks going down or do this dumb thing where people are like, who cares about losing money?

00:24:04.000 No, we all do care.

00:24:06.000 But I'm not going to complain about Donald Trump making mistakes because I believe...

00:24:09.000 That he is bringing us on the right track and that he needs our support even when he makes mistakes.

00:24:14.000 That's the difference.

00:24:15.000 The left is incapable of generating leadership because they purity spiral all the time.

00:24:20.000 The reason that we default onto such mediocre leftists as the ruling class is because they constantly look for – they constantly look to tear their own people down.

00:24:31.000 Indeed.

00:24:32.000 That's why there was this funny story.

00:24:34.000 It said Democrats are trying to court the manosphere.

00:24:37.000 And then they said the Manosphere was Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, and Andrew Schultz.

00:24:41.000 And I was like, no, those are just a bunch of comedians.

00:24:45.000 They are not Manosphere at all.

00:24:47.000 So these journalists are completely incapable of comprehending a Google search?

00:24:54.000 Absolutely clueless.

00:24:55.000 That was Alex Thompson from Axios, the guy who claimed, you know, we really missed this story on Biden.

00:25:00.000 Oh, okay, dude.

00:25:01.000 I think these journalists are just largely developmentally disabled.

00:25:05.000 Really out of touch.

00:25:06.000 I mean, I think that the piece that they did on Hassan kind of shows that.

00:25:11.000 They actually said, oh, this guy's got a liberal in a MAGA body, and it's like admitting that the left is full of soft, out-of-shape garbage.

00:25:25.000 Let's roll with this.

00:25:26.000 You brought it up, Phil.

00:25:27.000 Here you go, from the New York Times.

00:25:28.000 A progressive mind in a body made for the manosphere.

00:25:31.000 They changed the title.

00:25:32.000 Oh.

00:25:33.000 Yeah, because it said...

00:25:34.000 It said MAGA body before.

00:25:36.000 Yeah.

00:25:37.000 And what you were saying is they're basically admitting that the left is a bunch of frail, low-T guys who don't exercise.

00:25:44.000 And it's absolutely true.

00:25:46.000 Yes, of course, there are some dudes that are on the left that lift.

00:25:50.000 Of course there are.

00:25:51.000 But generally...

00:25:53.000 Dudes that are on the left are not thinking about things like, oh man, I should go to the gym today.

00:25:58.000 I should do something to improve myself.

00:26:00.000 They just don't have that attitude.

00:26:02.000 They tend to have an attitude of, it's someone else's fault.

00:26:07.000 Someone else is the reason why these bad things have happened to me.

00:26:10.000 They don't believe they have agency over their own body, never mind their life circumstances.

00:26:17.000 So here's the original headline.

00:26:19.000 Hasan Piker, a progressive mind in a MAGA body.

00:26:22.000 I love that headline.

00:26:24.000 Let's roll with it.

00:26:25.000 If you are fit, if you exercise, if you like weapons, that's MAGA.

00:26:29.000 The only anomaly is that for some reason Hasan is progressive.

00:26:32.000 I gotta be honest though.

00:26:33.000 I actually don't believe Hasan is progressive.

00:26:36.000 And I actually don't think most of these people are.

00:26:40.000 So we went over this the other day with David Pakman, Brian Tyler Cohen.

00:26:45.000 Boy, I love dragging these guys right now because...

00:26:47.000 92, like probably 95 to 100% of their videos are literally just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:26:53.000 Trump is bad for this reason.

00:26:55.000 Now he's bad for this reason.

00:26:56.000 It's like these people don't talk about news.

00:26:59.000 They are literally just Trump review channels, which means there is a logical inconsistency.

00:27:06.000 You can't simultaneously exist in this space where everything Trump does is bad.

00:27:14.000 So like the immigration thing, which we'll get into in a little bit, where it's like a two-year-old was deported because the mom requested the two-year-old leave with her.

00:27:21.000 How dare Trump do that?

00:27:22.000 Then you've got a simultaneous story from New York Times.

00:27:24.000 A two-year-old stayed after his parents were deported.

00:27:27.000 How dare Trump do that?

00:27:29.000 So here's what I imagine.

00:27:31.000 I imagine that if you actually got someone like Hassan or Pacman behind closed doors, they'd probably say a whole bunch of pro-Trump stuff.

00:27:40.000 Easily.

00:27:42.000 They're just putting on a show for money.

00:27:44.000 I do believe Hassan Piker hates America.

00:27:46.000 Yes.

00:27:47.000 I do believe that he is like pro-Palestine.

00:27:50.000 I do believe he hates Israel and all those things.

00:27:51.000 But there are a lot of pro-Trump people also absolutely hate Israel and hate that Donald Trump supports Israel, but they like Trump for what he's doing for America.

00:27:58.000 And that's, you know, it is what it is.

00:28:01.000 But I'd be willing to bet, based on the logic of Trump's plans, like, you know, renegotiating the USMCA and things like this.

00:28:09.000 If you brought those progressives in private with the cameras off, they'd say, I like all of these things.

00:28:15.000 And if you go, those are Trump things, they'll go, I don't know, whatever.

00:28:17.000 They wouldn't want to admit it.

00:28:18.000 I'm so glad you brought up David Pakman because he's actually my example of the intellectual who is most symbolic for the ruling regime.

00:28:27.000 I have watched this clip of David Pakman multiple times just to analyze it, and it's him talking about the economy being good.

00:28:34.000 And I watch it because it's just emblematic of the DNC personified.

00:28:38.000 Like the economy being good right now?

00:28:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:40.000 This was like a year ago, but it was saying, oh, the stock markets, the numbers are, line go up.

00:28:49.000 Oh, right.

00:28:50.000 Yeah, graph go up.

00:28:51.000 And a lot of these statistics are themselves completely falsified.

00:28:54.000 So he's going off gerrymandered and falsified and exaggerated statistics at best say that everything is fine.

00:29:03.000 We're at war with East Asia.

00:29:05.000 You know, I want to do a couple of things.

00:29:07.000 I want to show you first, you know, David Pakman, because he deserves all of the attention he can get for his hard work.

00:29:13.000 This is his list of videos on YouTube right now with 3.17 million subscribers.

00:29:17.000 Bravo to him.

00:29:18.000 He gets millions of views.

00:29:19.000 He gets massive viewership.

00:29:21.000 Over 2 billion views.

00:29:22.000 He makes tons of money.

00:29:22.000 Dude's probably a millionaire.

00:29:25.000 First video, Trump.

00:29:27.000 Second video, Trump.

00:29:28.000 Next video, Trump.

00:29:30.000 Fifth video, Trump.

00:29:32.000 Sixth, Trump.

00:29:33.000 Oh, wait!

00:29:34.000 Seventh video is press briefing or SNL skit.

00:29:36.000 He doesn't mention Trump, okay?

00:29:38.000 The next one is GOP down because of Trump.

00:29:40.000 Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:29:42.000 Guys, you get the point.

00:29:43.000 These people do not do news and political commentary.

00:29:46.000 It's literally just the Trump show.

00:29:49.000 And I think they're attracted to him.

00:29:52.000 But you know what?

00:29:52.000 That's just me.

00:29:54.000 I want to go back to the Hassan Piker story, and let's talk about the corporate press.

00:29:58.000 Ladies and gentlemen, for what reason did the New York Times give a glowing profile to Hassan Piker?

00:30:04.000 Honest question.

00:30:06.000 Has he done something that warrants?

00:30:08.000 A big profile page like this with this full image.

00:30:12.000 And I mean, they're not criticizing him at all for the most part.

00:30:16.000 I mean, do they bring up?

00:30:17.000 Honestly, I didn't read it.

00:30:18.000 All I know is that they said he's a progressive mind and a body for the manosphere or a MAGA body.

00:30:23.000 Fighting for LGBTQ rights, etc., etc.

00:30:26.000 Do they bring up the times he said America deserved 9-11 or things like that?

00:30:30.000 Here's why I asked this question.

00:30:33.000 I got here live search.app.

00:30:35.000 It's at LiveSearchApp.

00:30:37.000 They track the biggest live streams in the country every day.

00:30:42.000 And you will see number one for April 29th.

00:30:45.000 I know this is two days ago.

00:30:46.000 This is the latest update.

00:30:47.000 Steven Crowder, the biggest live stream in the country.

00:30:51.000 Consistently, too.

00:30:52.000 Crowder's usually number one or number two.

00:30:54.000 Dan Bongino was number one for a while, but now he's at the FBI.

00:30:58.000 Kai Sinat, number two.

00:31:00.000 Yo, everybody knows him.

00:31:02.000 I see his videos pop up on Instagram all the time.

00:31:05.000 His persona is, I'm confused.

00:31:08.000 Am I wrong?

00:31:09.000 He just makes a confused face at the camera.

00:31:12.000 I mean, it looks more like a minstrel show, if I'm being honest.

00:31:17.000 Well, I mean, I don't want to drag him, because I think when he's going and doing...

00:31:21.000 He goes places, then he's confused when he sees something new.

00:31:24.000 It's entertaining.

00:31:25.000 I'm not trying to drag the guy forward.

00:31:26.000 It's fun content.

00:31:28.000 Timcast IRL number three.

00:31:29.000 Proud to say.

00:31:30.000 Bob Ross, number four.

00:31:32.000 Right Side Broadcasting, number five.

00:31:34.000 Ryan Hall, number six.

00:31:35.000 Queso, number seven.

00:31:36.000 Vince, number eight.

00:31:36.000 Pat McAfee, number nine.

00:31:37.000 Aiden Ross, number ten.

00:31:39.000 Redacted, number eleven.

00:31:40.000 Tim Cast Morning Show, number twelve.

00:31:43.000 Jinxy, number thirteen.

00:31:44.000 Law and Crime, fourteen.

00:31:45.000 PBD, fifteen.

00:31:46.000 Tim the Tatman, sixteen.

00:31:47.000 Emily D. Baker, seventeen.

00:31:48.000 Court TV, eighteen.

00:31:50.000 Hassan Piker, nineteen.

00:31:52.000 So, certainly you're allowed to write glowing profiles and reviews for whoever you want.

00:31:57.000 They don't need to be the biggest shows in the world.

00:31:59.000 I'm just pointing out, He's the 19th biggest live show in the country on average around there.

00:32:07.000 The New York Times is giving him a profile because the New York Times is liberal media trying to promote the worldview that he has.

00:32:16.000 I think a portion of it is that they believe that he will attract young men like Joe Rogan or whatever because the left knows that they've lost him.

00:32:24.000 A significant portion of young men, young men are turning to the right.

00:32:28.000 And so Hassan, as a, you know, as the guy that wears masculinity like a skin suit, just like the left does with just about everything, they believe that they can, he'll attract young men back to the left.

00:32:38.000 Does Hassan have a predominantly male audience?

00:32:42.000 Yes.

00:32:42.000 I assumed it was female.

00:32:44.000 I would assume anyone in politics is going to have a predominantly male audience.

00:32:49.000 Okay, yeah.

00:32:50.000 That's fair.

00:32:51.000 And also because the majority of users on like...

00:32:53.000 Twitch or YouTube, they're male.

00:32:55.000 I don't know that's true.

00:32:58.000 I think 60% of users on YouTube are male.

00:33:01.000 She's correct.

00:33:02.000 Okay.

00:33:03.000 The left has an inability to see the inner forms of things.

00:33:06.000 They can only see their external trappings.

00:33:08.000 And due to that, their sense of time is very poor.

00:33:12.000 They don't have a concept of change flowing over time incrementally.

00:33:18.000 And so...

00:33:20.000 One of their core issues is they're sensing that they're losing a lot of support with their young male demographic, but then they don't realize that that's not something that you can change overnight by just having a—because they see Joe Rogan and they want to have a figure like Joe Rogan, but then they can't artificially create that and they can't artificially— Build up that cultural form and they can't wipe away the years of abuse against young white men.

00:33:45.000 So here's a story from Axios.

00:33:47.000 Democrats eyeing 2028 court the manosphere.

00:33:49.000 And I just mentioned this, but they bring up the manosphere as going on PBD.

00:33:57.000 Yeah, going on the men at work, going on flagrant.

00:34:00.000 They mentioned that Trump made popular going on manosphere shows like Joe Rogan, Theophon, Theophon, Lex Fridman.

00:34:09.000 Nice.

00:34:10.000 And Andrew Schultz, Lex is the exact opposite of the manosphere.

00:34:15.000 Yes.

00:34:15.000 Is it just because they're male?

00:34:16.000 Just because they're male.

00:34:17.000 Because they're men.

00:34:18.000 The left knows nothing about men.

00:34:20.000 They also choose the right of courting the womanosphere.

00:34:23.000 So I'm confused.

00:34:25.000 What is the right?

00:34:25.000 Well, no, no.

00:34:26.000 They said that there is the rise of the womanosphere, which is Brett Cooper and Candace Owens and some other people.

00:34:32.000 I just want to mention one real quick thing about Lex Fridman.

00:34:35.000 And I mean this with all due respect.

00:34:37.000 Do you know what the number one reason people tell me they listen to Lex's podcast?

00:34:42.000 Any guesses?

00:34:44.000 Yes!

00:34:44.000 You got it!

00:34:45.000 I'm not kidding!

00:34:47.000 This is not a joke!

00:34:48.000 I hear all the time from my friends that...

00:34:50.000 And look, I'm not trying to be a dick.

00:34:53.000 Maybe this is a really good thing.

00:34:54.000 They turn on Lex's show and they fall asleep.

00:34:58.000 The soothing timbre of his voice.

00:35:01.000 But I mean that literally.

00:35:02.000 I do think so.

00:35:04.000 It's a very, like, low, calm show where the talking is quite honestly the opposite of this.

00:35:10.000 Like a white noise machine.

00:35:11.000 It is.

00:35:12.000 But it's interesting, too.

00:35:14.000 So you get a mix of, maybe for about ten minutes you're hearing someone say something like, with the AI advancements in the latest developments, we're starting to see programs that are riding them.

00:35:26.000 This knocks you right out.

00:35:28.000 That is not the manosphere.

00:35:29.000 No.

00:35:30.000 But anyway, you make a good point.

00:35:32.000 The reason why the New York Times writes an article about a guy who, he's got a big show that's fine, but there's a lot of other people to write about.

00:35:39.000 They've been demanding, they've been begging for the left version of Joe Rogan, which, to be honest, was Joe Rogan.

00:35:45.000 And they're thinking, okay, Hassan's got a big live audience.

00:35:49.000 Can we make him big?

00:35:51.000 Can we make him the masculine presence to bring men into progressive politics?

00:35:56.000 I think the answer is no.

00:35:58.000 Because I'm willing to bet that most of the guys...

00:36:01.000 Who watch Hassan are probably not very strong.

00:36:03.000 And guys who are masculine are not going to agree with a worldview aligned with progressivism.

00:36:08.000 They probably dress like girls, too.

00:36:10.000 Look, no matter how you dress up the salesmen of progressivism, it is anti-masculine.

00:36:15.000 Yeah, it is.

00:36:16.000 Guys who exercise are not going to get down with communism.

00:36:19.000 No.

00:36:19.000 Well, again...

00:36:20.000 On average.

00:36:21.000 Again, the...

00:36:22.000 The defining factor, or not the defining factor, one of the common traits of people on the right is they believe they have agency and the ability to affect their world.

00:36:31.000 And people on the left think that life happens to them.

00:36:35.000 People on the right think I am able to have an impact on my life.

00:36:41.000 It's why they are the go-getters.

00:36:43.000 It's why they're the people that go and exercise.

00:36:45.000 It's why they're the people that start businesses.

00:36:47.000 It's why they're the people that do things.

00:36:50.000 People on the left are activists because they want someone to advocate for them.

00:36:54.000 This is something that's common.

00:36:56.000 And again, it's not all people that are on the right or on the left, but it's very, very common.

00:37:02.000 The left has thrown men away.

00:37:04.000 They have blamed men and boys for all the problems in the world, and they've been doing it for 30, 40 years, and now they're realizing, oh crap, we kind of want their votes.

00:37:13.000 And so they're doing the best that they can to attract young men back, and the best way to do that is get masculine-looking men to give the narrative that the left wants.

00:37:27.000 I don't watch Hassan Piker's content, but it seems like he doesn't align with mainstream Democrat Party views.

00:37:35.000 He's a commie.

00:37:35.000 Party lines.

00:37:36.000 Well, I don't know what he would call himself.

00:37:39.000 The people who consider himself progressive.

00:37:41.000 The people working at the New York Times that are running the show are commies.

00:37:44.000 This wasn't the case 10 years ago, but as boomers and Gen X move out of those positions, millennials fill them, and you're getting largely—I mean, journalists tend to be women and tend to be Democrats.

00:37:55.000 So these younger people, look at Bud Light.

00:37:59.000 Bud Light goes Dylan Mulvaney.

00:38:02.000 They say, we want to get rid of the frat bro image.

00:38:04.000 And it was obvious it was going to be some millennial woman who got hired in the marketing position who was going to change the rules or change the play.

00:38:10.000 And it was correct.

00:38:12.000 It was this woman.

00:38:14.000 This is what happens when millennial women come in.

00:38:16.000 They bring their worldview with them.

00:38:17.000 Why wouldn't they?

00:38:18.000 And that's what's happening at the New York Times.

00:38:20.000 They're promoting Hassan because to them, he is what the left needs to be.

00:38:25.000 Normal?

00:38:26.000 Like, would you consider him normal-looking?

00:38:29.000 Hassan?

00:38:30.000 Because I just, I remember back in the summer last year, they started this campaign about how Trump is weird and Vance is weird and they wanted to kind of put this like weirdness over.

00:38:42.000 They left that behind because it didn't work.

00:38:44.000 It didn't land, obviously.

00:38:45.000 They even started selling shirts that were like, Trump is weird and they had like a girl with a septum piercing and purple hair like modeling it.

00:38:52.000 As soon as Trump and Vance went on the podcasts, people were like, oh.

00:38:57.000 These guys are totally normal.

00:38:59.000 And it's particularly Vance.

00:39:00.000 Vance, they really tried hard to push the, he's weird, he's weird, blah, blah, blah.

00:39:04.000 And then Vance went on Joe Rogan and I believe on, I'm not sure who else, but he went on a bunch of podcasts and people were like, oh, he's like the most normal dude ever.

00:39:13.000 I don't know what the hell they're talking about.

00:39:15.000 But what I understand is that Hasan Piker's content is mostly him monologuing during his streams.

00:39:21.000 And what people like about Joe Rogan is that he...

00:39:28.000 standpoint of intellectual humility.

00:39:30.000 Like he has something to learn from his guests.

00:39:32.000 Yep. That's not something that I've seen in any left wing podcaster.

00:39:38.000 No, not at all.

00:39:38.000 Because they're, because they would never interview someone they disagree with anyway.

00:39:42.000 I want to jump to these stories.

00:39:55.000 Let's get into immigration.

00:39:56.000 We've got this one from NBC News.

00:39:59.000 Two-year-old U.S. citizen apparently removed from the country with no meaningful process, judge says.

00:40:04.000 The child's mother was being deported and wanted to take the girl, U.S. lawyer said.

00:40:09.000 When the judge asked to speak to her, they were already in the air.

00:40:13.000 Heavens me!

00:40:14.000 Well, it's okay.

00:40:15.000 From the New York Times, a mother and father were deported.

00:40:18.000 What happened to the toddler?

00:40:19.000 Their daughter remains somewhere in the U.S. This is what's called 100% negative coverage.

00:40:25.000 There is no right answer for Donald Trump.

00:40:29.000 Trump, by virtue of being Trump, is wrong to these people.

00:40:33.000 And so, I don't know how.

00:40:37.000 Rudyard, I ask of you how we survive as a civilization, as a country, when you have one faction, which focuses on the news of the day, the stories, the big issues.

00:40:49.000 Some people are obsessed with Trump on the right, but, you know, we're looking for the right thing to do.

00:40:54.000 And then on the left, you have a media that says Trump is wrong no matter what, don't know, don't care.

00:40:59.000 That's it.

00:41:00.000 The only media they're producing is Trump bad all day, every day.

00:41:04.000 How do you exist with people who aren't looking for solutions to make the country work?

00:41:10.000 They just want to hate people.

00:41:12.000 Thank you for that transition.

00:41:14.000 You did a good job.

00:41:17.000 It's hard to get good transitions, man.

00:41:19.000 If you've got a podcast, you've got different parts you've got to move through.

00:41:24.000 But I am known for my prediction that America is on the verge of a revolution or a civil war, and I've traced this back to multiple historic crises, and I stand by my thesis that we need to have a war where… This is one of those things where words are tricky,

00:41:43.000 but there's an underlying very simple concept.

00:41:45.000 The natural momentum of American society will result in a war.

00:41:51.000 And that this is the ultimate culmination of the variables that are in motion.

00:41:55.000 Because I've studied like five different historic models that predict we're going to have a revolution in civil war.

00:42:01.000 And most of them go back to the 20th century.

00:42:04.000 But have you factored in the demographic collapse?

00:42:07.000 I was going to talk about that.

00:42:08.000 There's multiple points.

00:42:10.000 So the shortest answer I can give you is I still think we're going to have a war.

00:42:15.000 And there's several reasons for why I believe that.

00:42:17.000 After that...

00:42:19.000 There are several variables which may have been why this took longer than I expected.

00:42:25.000 And on top of that, just my read on how the events of the last election have changed the last six months of American politics.

00:42:38.000 So I'll get started with why I think we need to have a revolution or a civil war.

00:42:45.000 What do you mean by need?

00:42:50.000 There's the personal moral, we need a war because I want my thing, or there's a, our country is falling apart and the only way we change is through a war.

00:42:59.000 So I'm going to stop here and say I am innately, profoundly grateful I lost this bed because on one side my pride gets hurt and on the other side there's a major war.

00:43:08.000 And one of these is definitely better than the other.

00:43:11.000 And so I think...

00:43:15.000 The variables in motion now will mean that we will have a war where in the same manner that, let's say, when there's a thunderstorm that's coming, the weatherman can predict with a certain degree of accuracy that there's going to be a thunderstorm.

00:43:30.000 The thing that is the most difficult to predict is timing, which is consistently the case with almost every variable that relates to...

00:43:40.000 Predicting anything because this isn't a set scientific.

00:43:44.000 This isn't a set thing where you can mathematically get the outcome.

00:43:48.000 However, I think that with the current variables in motion, we're going to have a war.

00:43:55.000 So why?

00:43:56.000 So I study a variety of different historic models and...

00:44:01.000 They all say that America is on the verge of having a war, and they've said this for decades because the variables that cause wars go back decades.

00:44:10.000 Examples of this is the generational patterns where America has consistently had a war every 80 years.

00:44:15.000 World War II, U.S. Civil War, American Revolution, etc., going backwards.

00:44:22.000 And when I look at the underlying variables in America today, what I'm seeing is that...

00:44:30.000 There is too high cost of living, too high inequality, too high – all of the variables that cause civil wars and there's no mechanism to reset this.

00:44:43.000 And I've spoken before in a previous video how I think the left is in a strategic place where they have to have a war to maintain their coalitions because most wars after the Industrial Revolution stem from one side being desperate.

00:44:58.000 Is it your sense that the income inequality is the big driver now, or do you think that it's ideological?

00:45:07.000 Yes.

00:45:08.000 So things happen for complex reasons.

00:45:11.000 I like to say, if you don't have at least five causal variables, you're not doing it right.

00:45:17.000 The biggest issue is that cost of living is fundamentally not attainable for most Americans.

00:45:24.000 Just most Americans do not have the money to start a family.

00:45:27.000 They do not have the money to buy a house to live what used to be a normal, decent life.

00:45:31.000 And what happened is that this sort of thing, historically, it only ends in a war because you end up in this gridlock.

00:45:45.000 Because I could explain all of this, but there's lots of downstream effects.

00:45:48.000 And in said downstream effects, both sides have these huge populations of dissatisfied people.

00:45:54.000 who it's called elite aspirants.

00:45:58.000 And so when you have these large populations of dissatisfied people that can't

00:46:04.000 That don't have anything else going on, you're going to have a war.

00:46:07.000 And I've been reading a lot about the French Revolution lately where it's interesting that you see years building up to the French Revolution where for a person afterwards, it was completely obvious it would happen.

00:46:18.000 every single step of the way up there people were in denial and that's what's going to happen here that I believe we will have a war or political crisis like this and then afterwards all of

00:46:30.000 When you say political crisis, can you expand on that and what you mean by political crisis if you're not talking about kinetic war or whatever?

00:46:43.000 They predict internal social crises.

00:46:45.000 And so I say civil war revolution because that's the normal variable that occurs.

00:46:50.000 The only other thing is...

00:46:53.000 If Trump could completely wipe out the leftist elite through Doge in like a two-year period, that would solve it.

00:46:59.000 But the issue with that is that you would end up in a weird situation where the left is desperate, which is where I think the left's at now.

00:47:07.000 And this is one of the points I wanted to bring up, that the amount of violence that's going on now is horrific.

00:47:13.000 And these things, they're like brush fires.

00:47:15.000 A brush fire will keep growing until it grows into a fire once it's past a certain scale.

00:47:21.000 The way the left is ramping up in violence in itself is completely terrifying.

00:47:27.000 Do you think that that's something that they're, and when I say they, I mean the left, do you think that that's something the left can sustain and actually intensify, or do you think that it's something that'll peter up?

00:47:37.000 Because it's my sense that there has to be something that really motivates your average person to get involved for it to really spread.

00:47:48.000 So the way these crises tend to work is that people's hands get forced under certain conditions where – I spoke about this the last time I was on your show, but if you look at the English Civil War, you look at the French Revolution, you look at the fall of the Roman Republic, what occurs in each case is that there's a sort of political crisis.

00:48:06.000 And then the political crisis forced the rights and the left to go into different brackets, and then they defend their own side.

00:48:12.000 And so what happens is that normally something like a budget issue hits or some politically important person gets murdered, and that forces both sides' hands.

00:48:20.000 But again, this is the norm for these kinds of historic crises.

00:48:24.000 Most people beforehand would not have wanted a war if they were asked, and then it happened anyway.

00:48:31.000 What was the initial bet that you made?

00:48:33.000 The third would be a thousand deaths.

00:48:35.000 There would be a thousand politically motivated deaths by the end of April.

00:48:39.000 I made it with my friend Andrew Heaton when I won his podcast.

00:48:42.000 Have you counted how many?

00:48:44.000 No.

00:48:44.000 The funny thing is that...

00:48:45.000 Because there were like, I think, probably 30 or 40 from when you came on the show until...

00:48:50.000 Yeah, so...

00:48:52.000 I'm not counting because I said before, it wouldn't surprise you if it's in the hundreds, because if we hit 1,000, we're going to know about it.

00:49:00.000 The thing I was really trying to say is that we'll have some type of politically motivated major crisis that would cause blood on the streets.

00:49:10.000 In these historical contexts, I mean, like going back much, much further, were they also facing population decline?

00:49:20.000 Like significant population decline.

00:49:22.000 Historic population decline.

00:49:24.000 I'm glad you said that as well.

00:49:26.000 Another good transition is I wanted to get to one of the mitigating variables where...

00:49:33.000 Population decline has happened before in history, and especially so the kind we're talking, which is birth rate.

00:49:39.000 So Will Durant, one of the best historians ever, he said the thing that killed the Greeks and the Romans was the declining birth rate.

00:49:46.000 That was the number one variable he picked.

00:49:48.000 Because when societies get wealthy, they stop having children.

00:49:50.000 And that's been a consistent pattern for all of history.

00:49:53.000 And city people historically have never been able to have children.

00:49:58.000 Back in the ancient and medieval worlds, the cities were completely dependent on the countrysides just to sustain their numbers.

00:50:05.000 Interesting.

00:50:06.000 Right now, I believe Gen Alpha is supposed to be ending this year, and there's an estimated 40 to 48 million projected for Gen Alpha.

00:50:15.000 Millennials are about 72 million.

00:50:17.000 Gen Z is about 69 million.

00:50:19.000 And we're facing what they're calling the demographic cliff, where because of the fertility drop-off after the Great Recession in 2007 and 2008...

00:50:26.000 We have no 18-year-olds to go to universities.

00:50:29.000 We have no 18-year-olds, 16-year-olds even, to start taking low-skill entry-level jobs that help sustain small business and grow.

00:50:38.000 There's a few examples we have here in Charleston, Charlestown, West Virginia, where businesses are going under because they can't find anybody to do rudimentary work.

00:50:47.000 So applying that to this political conflict we have, and I feel like.

00:50:53.000 Either it happens in the next couple of years, fourth turning style, straw style generational theory, or what is it?

00:51:00.000 A bunch of late 30s Gen Z fighting with a bunch of other late 30s Gen Z and there's no kids for whoever wins?

00:51:07.000 The thing I wanted to bring up is I've been looking at an interesting theory by Nietzsche, where Nietzsche was writing in the late 19th century, and the video I'm—I've got a couple videos in production.

00:51:18.000 The one I'm currently writing is The Rise and Fall of the Blue Pill, and— I use the blue pill as a moment of history in which over the course of the 20th century, we saw the rise of just really silly worldviews that have no relation to reality.

00:51:35.000 And the blue pill is a worldview built off platitudes and nice-sounding things rather than the truth.

00:51:43.000 So Nietzsche predicted the society of the early 21st century would be so weak it would be incapable of living, it would be incapable of sustaining itself, and it would hate those who had the will to keep living the most of anyone.

00:51:54.000 And when I look at our era, we are terrified of – we're terrified of change more so than previous historic societies.

00:52:04.000 So I think it goes to reason somewhat that we would delay a historic event like this because –

00:52:12.000 Because of that.

00:52:14.000 However, I still think that historic events like this have to happen because you look over the course of history and whenever you see a major sociological or demographic shift, it's accompanied by war.

00:52:26.000 And too many players in this current game have to have a war.

00:52:31.000 And when I say social issue, what I could possibly be saying besides a war inside America would be, let's say, China attacking Taiwan and we fight them.

00:52:41.000 Or some major international war or something like that.

00:52:45.000 There has to be a destabilizer to the current order because this order can't survive much longer.

00:52:50.000 Let me jump to the story.

00:52:52.000 I think this segment actually really exemplifies what we're talking about.

00:52:55.000 This is from NPR.

00:52:56.000 Trump appointed federal judge Block's Use of Alien Enemies Act for Venezuelans in South Texas.

00:53:02.000 There are a couple rulings.

00:53:03.000 One was that in California...

00:53:07.000 CBP that wants to stop an illegal immigrant can't unless they have a judicial warrant for that individual.

00:53:13.000 And if they try to deport the person, that person needs to be informed they can choose to not deport if they want.

00:53:20.000 You then have this story, which is just coming out today, blocking Trump's use, a federal judge, of the Alien Enemies Act of Venezuelans.

00:53:26.000 Now, what's crazy about this story is that the judge granted class action status to basically anyone from, like, any Venezuelan immigrant, which is nuts.

00:53:37.000 We are dealing with, in this country, the American tradition, which is people who have family here for several generations, who believe in the United States, and then you have, and that's largely represented by Trump.

00:53:50.000 On the Democrat side, they are represented by illegal immigrants, non-citizens, and they want as many non-Americans to come into this country, and they simultaneously argue, we love America, this is our country.

00:54:06.000 Clearly, both are not the same thing.

00:54:08.000 You cannot have two factions of people, one that says America is for the children of those who built this nation, and another that says America is for anyone who shows up in violation of the law.

00:54:20.000 What happens then?

00:54:21.000 Because right now, with these judges blocking the deportation, we have an untenable situation.

00:54:26.000 Trump has floated, suspending the writ of habeas corpus to deal with these deportations.

00:54:32.000 Citing Abraham Lincoln and other presidents who have done this without congressional approval, but maybe later getting it.

00:54:38.000 I'm wondering what you see happening in this regard and if this is a factor in this coming conflict.

00:54:44.000 So Aristotle said that the marker of a tyranny, or at least one of them, is to rely upon foreigners over the citizens of said nation because the foreigners had no stake in the nation's stability.

00:54:59.000 And I think the left...

00:55:00.000 Might very well be importing immigrants in to create some kind of army or military force because they would have trouble recruiting among a lot of young men.

00:55:15.000 And illegals, they'll just say, we'll give you citizenship if you fight for us.

00:55:19.000 It's a relatively clean deal, at least from their perspective.

00:55:24.000 I think that's shown in the recruiting.

00:55:29.000 The statistics from the Biden administration to what happened when Hegseth became the, you know, the sect F. The Trump administration, they hadn't met recruiting goals for multiple years leading up to Donald Trump getting elected or reelected.

00:55:48.000 And as soon as Donald Trump was reelected, the recruiting goal shot through the roof.

00:55:52.000 Or the recruiting number shot through the roof.

00:55:55.000 There was that bill a while ago.

00:55:58.000 I think this is it right here.

00:56:00.000 I'm trying to find it.

00:56:01.000 I'll pull this one.

00:56:02.000 Maybe this is the right story.

00:56:03.000 Bill offers faster path to American citizenship for migrants who enlist in the military.

00:56:08.000 And this is from the Courage to Serve Act.

00:56:12.000 It was bipartisan.

00:56:13.000 And they said if folks have the courage to raise their right hand, swear an oath to protect and defend this nation and put their lives on the line, then they sure as hell deserve the opportunity to be an American citizen.

00:56:22.000 And I think the story here was largely for illegal immigrants.

00:56:25.000 It's been a while.

00:56:27.000 They're saying migrants.

00:56:28.000 I do believe that when you get to the point where your military is trying to swear in non-citizens to serve...

00:56:35.000 That's a problem.

00:56:36.000 That's a country that's not going to survive much longer.

00:56:39.000 I mean, look, with the economic problems we're already facing, with the demographic drop-off, Donald Trump mass-deporting all of these people is not going to replace the missing children of millennials that don't exist and can't exist for 16, 17 years in terms of the workforce.

00:56:56.000 I don't know what the solution then would be.

00:56:59.000 Trump can deport all these people, but Democrats are clearly bringing them in because they're trying to prop up the economic system of the petrodollar.

00:57:05.000 Trump deports all these people.

00:57:07.000 The reason they're fighting it is because the world they live in is, graph go up as good.

00:57:13.000 Trump says, no, we want America for Americans.

00:57:15.000 But Americans don't have babies.

00:57:17.000 So how do we sustain this infrastructure?

00:57:20.000 You can't.

00:57:21.000 I mean, I'm going to be blunt here.

00:57:23.000 Mexico doesn't have a sustainable birth rate.

00:57:25.000 Almost nowhere in the world does a sustainable birth rate besides Africa.

00:57:28.000 So it's our responsibility to start.

00:57:31.000 We can't use the third world to prop up our numbers forever.

00:57:34.000 So we have to start having kids ourselves.

00:57:36.000 We can't do it ever.

00:57:37.000 It never works.

00:57:39.000 Those who have kids will continue to have kids.

00:57:41.000 This is going to fix itself by the end of the century.

00:57:44.000 We just need to hang in until there because those who have children will be those who also have children after that.

00:57:49.000 The culture will change because the culture is a natural reflexive organism that adapts to its environment.

00:57:57.000 It's not a straight line.

00:57:58.000 So the culture will have to change to fix this.

00:58:01.000 We'll just have to hang in there until it happens because government interventions tend to not work.

00:58:06.000 We may be looking at a dark ages.

00:58:08.000 Maybe, but we have to take the plot lines where we're fed.

00:58:12.000 And I think we'll pull through because Americans are bad at losing.

00:58:19.000 You look at our history.

00:58:20.000 But this is correct.

00:58:21.000 I hear this from everybody.

00:58:23.000 They assume that what we're talking about means humans cease to exist.

00:58:26.000 No, I'm not saying that.

00:58:27.000 I'm saying that it's going to be like a dark age.

00:58:29.000 There's going to be poverty, dilapidated buildings.

00:58:33.000 City centers will collapse.

00:58:35.000 Some cities themselves may become ghost towns.

00:58:38.000 The funny thing is, if you go back in time, even a couple hundred years, we have ghost towns all over the place.

00:58:42.000 A town was set up for some reason, a couple hundred people live there, and they're gone.

00:58:46.000 There are now small towns all over the East Coast.

00:58:49.000 You can find them in Pennsylvania.

00:58:51.000 They had big populations, and now they have only like 50 people left, and you can see all the houses are just falling apart.

00:58:57.000 Why?

00:58:57.000 They used to be based on the railway.

00:59:00.000 With the train tracks, With the rail delivering all these goods, the trains would stop at towns to resupply.

00:59:07.000 They need food, they need fuel.

00:59:08.000 So then towns would exist to provide the jobs to service this cargo that was transporting across the country.

00:59:13.000 Now we're largely just driving trucks.

00:59:15.000 It's freight, it's highways.

00:59:17.000 So the towns that were built next to these railroads are decaying and disappearing.

00:59:21.000 When you have a demographic drop-off, Donald Trump deporting all these people, we might actually see medium-sized, maybe not medium-sized, but let's say a city that...

00:59:31.000 May have 10,000, 20,000 people could just completely collapse in 5, 10 years.

00:59:36.000 A really good example of this is in Ohio where all those Haitians moved in.

00:59:40.000 Do you remember what the name of that town was?

00:59:42.000 Springfield.

00:59:42.000 Springfield, Ohio.

00:59:43.000 And people were pointing out that they're no longer seeing, like, white Americans are seeing Haitians everywhere.

00:59:49.000 But I also don't think people consider the fact that the population was declining.

00:59:55.000 In this place.

00:59:56.000 People did not have kids.

00:59:58.000 They were not repopulating their own area.

01:00:00.000 And so I think largely the reason Democrats brought in all these Haitian migrants was they were like, this is an area that needs workers.

01:00:07.000 Send as many people.

01:00:08.000 We don't care where they're from or what it does.

01:00:10.000 Now, that doesn't work.

01:00:12.000 The problem of needing to maintain a city infrastructure is not remedied by bringing in people who don't know how to maintain city infrastructure.

01:00:20.000 It is a desperate, holy crap, what do we do?

01:00:24.000 So I think we may actually end up in a place maybe in 10 or 20 years with – they're calling it a – there's the mortality cliff.

01:00:33.000 That is a standard thing that happens for all older generations.

01:00:36.000 So baby boomers are in their mid – I think early 60s to late 70s, meaning boomers right now at the oldest are at life expectancy.

01:00:48.000 Ten years from now, we're expecting a significant decline.

01:00:51.000 They're expecting there to be, I think, around 20 million boomers in the next...

01:00:57.000 How many boomers are there?

01:00:58.000 I think it's going to be 20 million in 10 years.

01:01:00.000 How many boomers are alive in the U.S.?

01:01:04.000 And I think it's probably like, what is it, 60 million or something?

01:01:08.000 76.4 million.

01:01:09.000 Is that what you have?

01:01:10.000 Yep.

01:01:11.000 I have nothing.

01:01:12.000 It's not loading.

01:01:13.000 Oh, here we go.

01:01:14.000 68 million as of 2024.

01:01:17.000 What was your source?

01:01:19.000 The Brave.

01:01:20.000 Browsers, AI.

01:01:22.000 So the prediction is that...

01:01:23.000 In 2012, they were 76.4 million.

01:01:25.000 Okay, so let me get a fresh prediction.

01:01:27.000 How many boomers in 10 years?

01:01:29.000 Because I don't want to make it seem overly dramatic, like, you know, 40, 50 million people die in 10 years.

01:01:38.000 The other thing is, so, I'm from Pennsylvania, so I know a lot of the places you're talking about.

01:01:43.000 I have several stories here, especially when I hiked the Appalachian Trail.

01:01:47.000 I slept in a few ghost towns.

01:01:50.000 And it's just really sad in Pennsylvania.

01:01:53.000 But the death of the boomers is also the death of an entire worldview where the boomers are holding together the post-World War II order.

01:02:01.000 And so once the boomers retire, you'll see a complete cultural shift in a sub-variety of different things.

01:02:07.000 Brock estimates 2035 there will be 50 to 58 million boomers.

01:02:11.000 Okay, so I was way off.

01:02:14.000 And by 2045, 37 million.

01:02:18.000 So that's a really great point and an important one.

01:02:22.000 The boomers are largely the principal voting bloc right now.

01:02:26.000 So take a look at these progressives that are being propped up that are younger.

01:02:31.000 Look at the worldviews they're cultivating.

01:02:33.000 It is a psychotic, deranged worldview with no cohesive policy plan, no cohesive structure of governance.

01:02:41.000 It's simply Trump is bad.

01:02:45.000 That is not going to vote for anything reasonable or meaningful.

01:02:49.000 We will not function.

01:02:51.000 This country is not going to function.

01:02:54.000 I can't.

01:02:55.000 Let me tell you guys this.

01:02:57.000 I was looking at a house today.

01:03:00.000 It's, I think, five point something acres.

01:03:03.000 It's a bungalow.

01:03:05.000 And they want around half a million dollars for it.

01:03:08.000 It's trashed.

01:03:09.000 It's not worth it.

01:03:11.000 The amount of work you'd have to put in to fix the floors.

01:03:14.000 To fix the carpets and set it all up?

01:03:16.000 Not worth it.

01:03:18.000 I asked the real estate agent, okay, so it's a big acreage, we get that, but the house needs $100,000 in work and you want $500,000 for it.

01:03:26.000 And she said, well, right now, in West Virginia, a new-built bungalow on an acre is $600,000.

01:03:36.000 Yeah.

01:03:36.000 And I said, that's impossible.

01:03:39.000 That's impossible.

01:03:41.000 Who's going to buy it?

01:03:43.000 Honest question.

01:03:45.000 It blew my mind that that was the going rate for these houses.

01:03:50.000 A bungalow is a three-bedroom, one-story house in a rural area on one acre for $600,000.

01:03:56.000 Ain't no Gen Z going to buy that.

01:03:58.000 Millennials ain't going to buy that.

01:04:00.000 So what happens in 10, 20 years?

01:04:03.000 Boomers are going to be much, much older and holding on all these properties.

01:04:08.000 What is to come?

01:04:10.000 Makes literally no sense in terms of a cohesive, functioning system.

01:04:14.000 And I'll tell you this.

01:04:16.000 Flooding the country with illegal immigrants ain't going to change any of that.

01:04:19.000 It's only going to make war.

01:04:21.000 So I don't know what you do.

01:04:22.000 But I'm curious, again, on those issues, what you think we could expect to see.

01:04:28.000 So the reason that the housing market's so expensive is that there's a vast amount of cheap money in the economy right now.

01:04:35.000 Or who?

01:04:37.000 The government.

01:04:39.000 I meant to say free money.

01:04:41.000 The government just prints a lot of money, and it just floods the economy because the money is not actually representative of the economy, so it causes the price of everything to skyrocket, and housing is a stable asset.

01:04:54.000 So housing is a physical thing.

01:04:58.000 So when you invest in housing, as the value of the money deteriorates itself, The house is still there.

01:05:06.000 So housing is hedged against inflation, which is why it's skyrocketing.

01:05:09.000 Same thing as why the stock market...

01:05:11.000 It's insane that the stock market has been having a very good time in the last five years when the American people have been completely screwed over.

01:05:18.000 And it's because the government prints cheap money.

01:05:21.000 And you can't hold cash.

01:05:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:05:23.000 So I'll put it this way.

01:05:24.000 It's not that the value of the house is going up.

01:05:26.000 It's not that stocks are going up.

01:05:28.000 It's that the dollar is crumbling.

01:05:30.000 Correct.

01:05:30.000 So this is really fascinating.

01:05:32.000 It looks like...

01:05:33.000 The value of stocks is going up, but I wonder if you compare it to buying power, if the buying power value of these things is increasing, because I'd argue it's not.

01:05:42.000 Buying power is garbage.

01:05:43.000 It's collapsed precipitously in the last 10 years.

01:05:47.000 I mean, I remember when everything—I'm 23, I'm young.

01:05:51.000 I remember when everything was half the price it is now.

01:05:53.000 And that's just, it's sad.

01:05:57.000 And as of a little over a year and a half ago, in the previous...

01:06:03.000 Three years, our currency had lost a quarter of its value, and that's the government numbers.

01:06:09.000 And the government numbers are always lowballs because they always manipulate the stats.

01:06:12.000 I mean, I would expect a number significantly higher, that the value of your currency for what it was 10, 5 years ago is nothing.

01:06:21.000 I want to add one thing.

01:06:23.000 I want to add something.

01:06:25.000 Right?

01:06:26.000 We showed you guys yesterday and today David Pakman's YouTube channel.

01:06:30.000 It's all Trump.

01:06:31.000 How many views do you think he's gotten this month?

01:06:35.000 I don't know.

01:06:36.000 A couple million?

01:06:38.000 I'd say 100,000 each video.

01:06:40.000 So how many views this month?

01:06:43.000 If he's putting out five or six videos per day?

01:06:45.000 Let's say...

01:06:46.000 I'm making up numbers.

01:06:48.000 Four million, five million.

01:06:51.000 106 million views in the last month doing nothing but diarrhea from his mouth about Donald Trump.

01:06:59.000 Damn.

01:07:00.000 Jesus.

01:07:01.000 Yep.

01:07:02.000 Yep.

01:07:03.000 I think Timcast IRL, well, I can't track Timcast IRL as easily because we're split between multiple platforms, so that's actually hard to track.

01:07:11.000 Our views had gone up, but I can't really track it.

01:07:13.000 You know what I can track is just my Timcast news on Social Blade, which it's still split.

01:07:19.000 28 million on just YouTube alone, and then it's probably another maybe 10 on Rumble.

01:07:26.000 Because it's harder to track.

01:07:28.000 Dave Payne's not on Rumble.

01:07:29.000 The reason why I bring this up, what do you think it means that our media space, let me also do this, Brian Tyler Cohen, because I want to show these guys whose only subject is Trump, 196 million views.

01:07:48.000 Unreal.

01:07:49.000 Estimated monthly earnings, $785,000.

01:07:54.000 Damn.

01:07:55.000 And I'm going to tell you, that's a low number.

01:08:00.000 Damn.

01:08:01.000 The only thing they say is Trump.

01:08:04.000 Every single video.

01:08:06.000 Our culture is deranged.

01:08:09.000 I'm sorry.

01:08:10.000 This is...

01:08:12.000 You can argue that clearly it's not 196 million Americans.

01:08:18.000 It may be 20 million Americans who watch these videos religiously.

01:08:22.000 But either way, a large sect of the population, their brain is being fried like a sunny-side-up egg in a frying pan like that commercial back in the 80s.

01:08:34.000 This is your brain on drugs.

01:08:36.000 I can't imagine what the next 10 years are going to look like.

01:08:40.000 If Trump leaves, I mean, Trump's going to leave.

01:08:44.000 What happens to the brains of these people if there's no Trump?

01:08:48.000 It's like their whole world ceases to exist.

01:08:50.000 Can it transfer over to Vance or whoever is the successor?

01:08:55.000 I don't think so.

01:08:56.000 They're trying that with Elon because the reason I think they're targeting Elon because I didn't understand the Tesla move in any other lens.

01:09:03.000 Besides this, is they've focused their hatred on Trump for the last nine years.

01:09:09.000 You can only keep your audience engaged for so long.

01:09:12.000 And so I think they're switching over to Elon because he's the wealthiest man in the world and he's a big attractor of envy because the left is motivated by envy.

01:09:20.000 And so I think they're switching over to Elon as just a new target to feed their energy off.

01:09:25.000 Okay, I'm not saying it's comparable in numbers, but I just saw that...

01:09:30.000 Sheryl Crow sold her Tesla to protest Elon Musk, and then I'm assuming someone who supports Elon Musk, as she put it, showed up to her property to kill her.

01:09:45.000 It was some life-threatening situation.

01:09:47.000 Obviously, she's fine.

01:09:48.000 But that's why I think that the derangement is spreading to both sides.

01:09:53.000 You guys ready for this?

01:09:54.000 Am I wrong?

01:09:55.000 I never said it wasn't.

01:09:56.000 I've said for years that both the right and the left are going to get violent.

01:10:00.000 So if envy motivates the left, what motivates the right?

01:10:02.000 Disgust.

01:10:03.000 This is one of my favorite ideas, the seven emotions.

01:10:07.000 So different societies are powered by different emotion.

01:10:11.000 You guys ready for the next Hammer Drop?

01:10:14.000 Yeah.

01:10:14.000 We'll start with this.

01:10:16.000 Brian Tyler Cohen, who all he does is make videos about Donald Trump.

01:10:21.000 David, 196 million views.

01:10:23.000 David Pakman, 106 million views.

01:10:25.000 Nothing but Trump videos.

01:10:27.000 How many views do you think Joe Rogan got on YouTube?

01:10:32.000 200 million.

01:10:33.000 Biggest podcast in the world.

01:10:35.000 How many views?

01:10:35.000 Did you say 200?

01:10:36.000 What do you say, Mary?

01:10:37.000 I feel like he has more listeners than viewers, so...

01:10:42.000 I don't know, 300 million?

01:10:44.000 What do you think?

01:10:45.000 I don't know, I'm gonna go with 250 million.

01:10:50.000 52 million.

01:10:50.000 That's not many.

01:10:52.000 The biggest podcast in the world is not Joe Rogan.

01:10:55.000 So we have to figure out what it means to podcast.

01:10:59.000 Because I can make this argument.

01:11:00.000 The biggest podcast in the world is Timcast IRL.

01:11:03.000 Why?

01:11:04.000 We have the largest live audience for a sit-down, multi-person conversation Monday through Friday.

01:11:11.000 Steven Crowder's not a podcast.

01:11:12.000 He does news comedy show.

01:11:14.000 It's a news comedy show.

01:11:15.000 It's singular host with a crew and they write comedy and sketches and jokes.

01:11:18.000 So that would mean that, well, he's out of the running for the top podcast.

01:11:22.000 Then you have Kai Sinet's number two.

01:11:24.000 But that's not a podcast.

01:11:26.000 It's a live stream where he just talks to his audience.

01:11:28.000 In terms of the traditional podcast of sitting down, we have the largest audience every single night.

01:11:34.000 Let's all clap for ourselves.

01:11:35.000 But that's not really true.

01:11:37.000 That's not really true.

01:11:38.000 Because we get on YouTube a couple hundred, you know, 250.

01:11:42.000 On Rumble, we're getting like 250.

01:11:43.000 It's down from the high season, which is in the winter.

01:11:46.000 And then on the audio side, we're maybe getting like 100, 200 now.

01:11:49.000 So we're getting, I don't know, 600, 700,000 a day.

01:11:53.000 But Joe Rogan gets five, six million per episode.

01:11:56.000 So he's a bigger podcast, right?

01:11:58.000 Well, he certainly gets more views than we do.

01:12:02.000 Let's break down what a podcast is.

01:12:04.000 It is talking, and some podcasts are 10 minutes, some are 30, some are 40, some are two hours, some are three hours, some are short.

01:12:13.000 There are top podcasts on Apple that do news, and they're 15 minutes long.

01:12:19.000 So if we're going to look at what a podcast is in its broadest sense, There's no way Joe Rogan's the biggest.

01:12:25.000 Brian Tyler Cohen's bigger than Rogan.

01:12:27.000 On YouTube?

01:12:28.000 Four times bigger on YouTube, for sure.

01:12:30.000 But then on listening platforms, it would be much different.

01:12:33.000 I'd be willing to bet I can pull up Brian Tyler Cohen podcast ranking, and it's going to be high.

01:12:41.000 He looks like he's in the top 100.

01:12:44.000 It's hard to see because they got rid of Chartable.

01:12:47.000 So it's hard to figure out where he's at.

01:12:49.000 I will say this.

01:12:50.000 Based on...

01:12:52.000 I think Brian Tyler Cohen's probably getting $100,000 to $200,000 per episode.

01:12:57.000 So I don't know how many episodes he does.

01:13:00.000 Let's see.

01:13:02.000 He only does once a week.

01:13:04.000 So very little there.

01:13:07.000 Hard to say exactly what Rogan's doing on the podcast side.

01:13:10.000 I'll just put it this way.

01:13:11.000 On YouTube, Joe Rogan is tiny compared to the people who only scream Trump.

01:13:18.000 Like, does that not freak you guys out?

01:13:20.000 So this is assuming the numbers are accurate, where we have some evidence to believe they might not be.

01:13:25.000 Where, as an example, the Biden administration has added a million jobs on their jobs program, where they said there were a million more jobs for their entire year leading up to the election than there really were.

01:13:41.000 And that was just a number they made up.

01:13:45.000 But this is different.

01:13:46.000 This is...

01:13:47.000 This is tracking the YouTube API through an app to see how many views a channel is getting.

01:13:55.000 Yeah, okay, yeah, you're right.

01:13:57.000 Apologies.

01:13:58.000 It's crazy to see where the culture is at.

01:14:00.000 It just speaks to a complete societal failing.

01:14:06.000 I mean, I'll tell you guys this right now.

01:14:08.000 When they call people on the right grifters, they are full of...

01:14:12.000 Because if you make a channel and all you do is insult Trump...

01:14:17.000 You're getting four times the traffic.

01:14:19.000 Look, Pac-Man's getting double the traffic of Rogan.

01:14:22.000 Cohen's getting four times Rogan's traffic.

01:14:26.000 That's insane.

01:14:28.000 Insane.

01:14:29.000 The biggest YouTube podcasts right now are simply Trump is bad no matter what he does.

01:14:34.000 Nothing else.

01:14:36.000 No other subject.

01:14:38.000 Which is ridiculous that that's still the case 10 years into Donald Trump being a political entity.

01:14:46.000 I was talking to the crew about this earlier, about why you get authoritarianism.

01:14:51.000 The founding fathers were oppressed by the crown.

01:14:55.000 They were upset that when they tried to assemble and deal with their own governance, the crown wouldn't let them.

01:15:02.000 Naturally, they constructed a government that addressed such things.

01:15:05.000 A right to peaceably assemble and bare arms.

01:15:07.000 Screw you.

01:15:08.000 You can't stop us.

01:15:09.000 But the pendulum can swing in another direction.

01:15:12.000 Right now, you have unfettered speech of individuals, and what do they do?

01:15:17.000 The most bare-bones, raw, rage-inducing, psychotic garbage.

01:15:25.000 And it infects people's minds and makes them go insane.

01:15:28.000 I'm not saying ban them from doing it, but I wonder what the founding fathers would say.

01:15:33.000 If they looked at this media phenomenon right now and they said, you've got some of the biggest media production, millionaires, men of wealth and merit, these people are making donations, they're advocating for policy, and the only thing they do every day is scream out how much they hate one guy?

01:15:52.000 I don't think the founding fathers thought that's what was going to happen with free speech.

01:15:55.000 It's funny you say that because the founding fathers and they made America, they were looking back to the pre-existing history of republics.

01:16:02.000 And they were looking especially to the Greeks and the Romans who had republics earlier.

01:16:07.000 And the interesting thing and the number one thing the founding fathers were worried about is they had studied Aristotle.

01:16:12.000 And Aristotle has three different political systems, oligarchy, democracy and monarchy all have their core strengths and weaknesses that lead off based off their greatest strength to their doom and for.

01:16:25.000 For democracy, they said the failing was equality, and they said that you would start to see equality pop up as an idea and that equality would ultimately kill democracy.

01:16:36.000 And they said that mob psychology was the number one thing that would destroy democracy.

01:16:41.000 So they knew about mob psychology because the Greeks and the Romans had enormous issues with mobs in their democracy.

01:16:47.000 There's another potentiality here, which is maybe a bit scarier.

01:16:52.000 The views that are garnered by these Trump psychos are fake.

01:16:57.000 Yeah.

01:16:58.000 I'm sure a lot of them are.

01:17:00.000 One of the stories that we have coming up, we covered this story a couple days ago.

01:17:03.000 It's a segment that's going to be up at some point.

01:17:06.000 Researchers were using AI chatbots to target individuals on Reddit to build a profile on them and then respond to them in a way that would change their minds and it worked.

01:17:19.000 So when you look at the views of these prominent individuals, it may be bots for one reason.

01:17:26.000 When a young guy...

01:17:28.000 enters politics and he sees that if you go Joe Rogan's route, you get 50 million views.

01:17:33.000 If you go anti-Trump, you get 100 to 200 million.

01:17:37.000 Which way?

01:17:39.000 And so these young guys are like, that's the mainstream.

01:17:42.000 The argument made a long time ago is that the corporate press exists to convince 80% of the population that the 10% are the popular mainstream ideas.

01:17:53.000 Oh yeah, totally.

01:17:54.000 You got it statistically right.

01:17:57.000 Where wokeies are about 10% of the population, and then 60% of the population in game theory terms can be manipulated by the public.

01:18:05.000 And so, you're right, that's exactly what they're doing.

01:18:11.000 So do you think these views are fake then?

01:18:13.000 It's dead internet theory?

01:18:14.000 They're bots?

01:18:15.000 So, it's hard to disentangle between them, because, as an example, almost every major issue the left cares about, they care about...

01:18:25.000 Because it was a popular issue in mid-20th century Marxism where – and I've spent a lot of time studying the anthropology of the left, so feel free to ask any questions on the topic.

01:18:39.000 But in the mid-20th century, the Marxists thought the working classes aren't getting us power anymore because the working classes realize that capitalism gets them richer.

01:18:48.000 So let's pivot.

01:18:50.000 To ethnic minorities, women, and gay people as demographics where if we pandered to said demographics, we can hold power.

01:18:58.000 And then what happened is that generations afterwards, the left was incapable of realizing that this was a strategy that the left made up for the express purpose of getting power.

01:19:09.000 They ate the propaganda.

01:19:11.000 That's all outlined in Mark Hughes' work.

01:19:15.000 Exactly.

01:19:16.000 I don't think we've blackpilled the audience enough, so we're going to go to this story from Fox Business.

01:19:21.000 This is, I'm kidding, this is actually a white pill.

01:19:24.000 Robbie Starbuck says it's too late for Meta to apologize after AI chatbot allegedly defamed him.

01:19:30.000 Fox, it is not alleged.

01:19:33.000 Facebook has apologized for it, and Meta AI admits that it did it.

01:19:38.000 If you pull up Meta AI, it says, yes, Meta AI accused Robbie Starbuck of, here's the story.

01:19:46.000 About nine months ago, Robbie Starbuck, who's a conservative personality, ran for office.

01:19:50.000 He's an activist, a speaker, a public figure.

01:19:54.000 Someone posted an image.

01:19:56.000 I could be in the story, but I believe it's this.

01:19:58.000 Posted an image of Meta AI saying that he was arrested on January 6th and imprisoned, pleading guilty.

01:20:05.000 That is fake news.

01:20:07.000 Robbie is like, I was not even in D.C. I live in Nashville.

01:20:10.000 I wasn't there.

01:20:11.000 That is defamation per se to accuse someone of a crime.

01:20:15.000 Robbie says he reached out to Facebook saying, or Meta, the parent company, hey guys, fix this and issue a retraction and apology because people are starting to target me believing it's real.

01:20:27.000 Facebook did nothing.

01:20:28.000 Over the next nine months, Robbie says it got worse.

01:20:32.000 More fake images started to appear from Meta, more images from Meta.ai making fake statements about Robbie is what I mean to say, saying that it even got extreme to the point where it said his children should be taken from him.

01:20:44.000 Because he's a convicted criminal and insurrectionist and all these things.

01:20:49.000 This is where things get really crazy.

01:20:51.000 There's so much to break down in how revolutionary this story is going to be.

01:20:55.000 So Joel Kaplan, I think, I thought I had the tweet pulled up here somewhere, is a, do I have it right here?

01:21:03.000 Yes.

01:21:04.000 Joel Kaplan from Facebook says, Robbie, I watched your video.

01:21:08.000 This is unacceptable.

01:21:09.000 This is clearly not how our AI should operate.

01:21:12.000 We're sorry for the results it shared about you and that the fix we put in place didn't address the underlying problem.

01:21:18.000 I'm working now with our product team to understand how this happened and explore potential solutions.

01:21:25.000 This is one of the craziest political stories I've ever seen, and it is going to change the game for all of us.

01:21:32.000 Let me break this down.

01:21:34.000 Facebook has admitted fault.

01:21:36.000 Joel Kaplan is not some random guy.

01:21:39.000 He's chief global affairs officer at Meta.

01:21:42.000 This is a top officer level position at Meta saying, we're sorry our program did this.

01:21:49.000 Admission of guilt and fault.

01:21:51.000 They created a product that defamed Robbie Starbuck.

01:21:55.000 It's defamation per se.

01:21:57.000 He's suing for access of five million in damages.

01:22:00.000 He's also asking for punitive damage as to be determined.

01:22:03.000 I'm assuming this actually, this next part, because he didn't talk about it.

01:22:06.000 But the presumption is in the lawsuit, jury will determine punitive damages to be awarded, which estimates could be 1-3% of the value of the company or upwards of 9%, depending on which state you're in.

01:22:17.000 That's what Robbie told me.

01:22:18.000 Meaning, he might make himself a billionaire over this lawsuit.

01:22:22.000 Good for him.

01:22:23.000 The crazy thing about it is that Facebook admitted they defamed him.

01:22:26.000 I've never seen a defamation case where the defaming accused party says, yes, we did this before it went to court.

01:22:35.000 They've thrown out the window any opportunity for dismissal, which means they will go to discovery.

01:22:40.000 This is where it goes.

01:22:42.000 I'm assuming this because who knows what a judge says.

01:22:45.000 But based on their admission of guilt, this should get past any motion to dismiss, which I doubt would happen.

01:22:50.000 It's not going to be settled because now Robbie, with their admission of guilt, can go straight to a jury awarding punitive damages.

01:22:56.000 If they get discovery, they can look at the training models for Meta's AI.

01:23:02.000 And the algorithm to determine why it was lying about him.

01:23:05.000 It may turn out that an individual intentionally injected fake information into the AI.

01:23:10.000 Here's where I think it gets really interesting.

01:23:13.000 This means, and it's not just about this lawsuit.

01:23:17.000 For the longest time, the corporate press has been lying about people like me, lying about people like James O 'Keefe.

01:23:22.000 I use him as a great example because his Wikipedia is a crazy lie.

01:23:26.000 And they say you can't sue him because they have Section 230 protections.

01:23:30.000 Well, hold on now.

01:23:33.000 Unfortunately for these artificial intelligences, they've absorbed all of the lies from the corporate press and presume it all to be true, which means if you go to ChetGPT or Grok or Meta.ai and you ask it,

01:23:50.000 tell me about James O 'Keefe, and it pulls in that false information, that company has now defamed you.

01:23:59.000 Outright, the product did.

01:24:01.000 That's where it gets interesting, because Wikipedia, you can't sue?

01:24:05.000 A third party posted it.

01:24:06.000 Twitter, can't sue Twitter.

01:24:08.000 Some random guy tweeted that.

01:24:09.000 But that tweet was absorbed into Grok, and now if Grok lies about you, yes, you can now sue Twitter.

01:24:15.000 So I think we are going to see something massive here, unless, of course, you get a corrupt judge.

01:24:21.000 But with all that being said, the next big question, seeing as AI is now in the space, another story to throw in, Is that recently a Tesla was driving down the street, full self-driving, when a man tripped into the road.

01:24:34.000 The Tesla then immediately veered left and slammed into another car.

01:24:37.000 Did you guys see this one?

01:24:38.000 No, I didn't.

01:24:39.000 And this is the moment we've all been waiting for in AI.

01:24:42.000 The question was, who does the car choose to save?

01:24:45.000 The pedestrian in the street or the driver of the vehicle?

01:24:49.000 In this instance, the vehicle chose to crash into another car, potentially killing both the driver of each vehicle.

01:24:57.000 Because one man fell on the road.

01:25:00.000 AI is changing everything in terms of fault with cases like this.

01:25:05.000 So, again, all that being put out there, I know it might be a bit of a hard segue, but I'm wondering, Redyard, what you see with all your predictions and what you've studied in history, how AI will play a role in this.

01:25:15.000 So it's funny you say that, because...

01:25:19.000 I draw my lines in fields I don't study.

01:25:21.000 I'm not very good at AI.

01:25:22.000 I have lots of friends who are vastly better at tech than me.

01:25:25.000 So I try to have a degree of humility about that.

01:25:28.000 But the thing with AI that's...

01:25:30.000 Long story short, I don't think AI is capable of developing its own consciousness.

01:25:34.000 It would take me too long to explain why.

01:25:37.000 But then secondarily...

01:25:38.000 The biggest worry with AI is they basically get rid of all the pre-established jobs.

01:25:44.000 Where most human activities are not that difficult, then AI can replace them.

01:25:48.000 And there's been zero examination among the ruling class for what it's going to mean if, I don't know, like a quarter of people's jobs go away.

01:25:56.000 Because people are already using AI to automate humans out.

01:26:01.000 It's scary.

01:26:02.000 So I think we do have a correction.

01:26:03.000 I don't know for sure.

01:26:05.000 But right now the updated post is saying that actually the female driver took control and hit the car to dodge the man who fell in the street.

01:26:13.000 So that may be the case.

01:26:15.000 We're still morally superior to the robots.

01:26:19.000 Please.

01:26:19.000 It seems like a better option to, I mean, considering the safety record of Teslas, because they are one of the safest cars on the road, it does seem like the better option for the car to say, okay.

01:26:32.000 We're going at this speed.

01:26:34.000 I mean, it wasn't traveling at a high rate of speed.

01:26:36.000 And it's more likely that the person in the car will survive than the person falling in front of the Tesla.

01:26:44.000 It seems like a reasonable decision.

01:26:47.000 I mean, one of the things I say is how much does blank issue compare to medical malpractice, where people talk about wars in the Middle East, they talk about 9-11, but some vast amount of people are killed every year by medical mispractice.

01:27:00.000 Third leading cause of death.

01:27:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:02.000 And so when someone – how many actual situations will this Tesla AI issue hit where someone could potentially die?

01:27:09.000 And how many situations furthermore where the human doesn't intervene at the second and say, no, we're not doing that?

01:27:16.000 I think –

01:27:17.000 One of the reasons we will not see your prediction of the future is because the left is going to plug their brains in in some way or another and just blank out of reality.

01:27:31.000 So we...

01:27:33.000 Yo, I'm starting to see more and more on Instagram insanely well-made AI video.

01:27:43.000 It's getting really crazy.

01:27:46.000 So we're like a year away from...

01:27:49.000 I mean, already on ChatGPT you can program video games.

01:27:54.000 Very rudimentary.

01:27:56.000 How long until you can actually say, code me a game like The Legend of Zelda?

01:28:02.000 Right now we're at like Commodore 64 and Atari level games.

01:28:07.000 How long until it's at NES, SNES, N64?

01:28:10.000 It's going to be a rapid exponential increase.

01:28:12.000 I see many of these left and Gen Zers.

01:28:16.000 Just being like, I don't need a house.

01:28:18.000 I'm going to live in a bachelor apartment with seven other guys.

01:28:21.000 Fifty bucks a month.

01:28:23.000 Sit down, go in VR, do whatever you got to do, and maybe Neuralink, whatever.

01:28:27.000 That society is not going to procreate.

01:28:30.000 Indeed, so there's no war.

01:28:32.000 So, I still think we're going to have a war.

01:28:34.000 I'm standing by the bet.

01:28:37.000 I, because...

01:28:39.000 The violence is ramping up and things like this tend to spool upwards where I think we've hit critical tension.

01:28:45.000 I hope you're correct.

01:28:46.000 I hope that...

01:28:48.000 The left just gives up.

01:28:50.000 But also the left has been perfectly willing to kill their entire civilization in exchange for not—yes.

01:28:55.000 And currently the left are the ones that are—not only are they ramping up, but they're the ones that are pushing forward the violent rhetoric.

01:29:02.000 Yes.

01:29:02.000 You're not hearing any of the leaders try to talk the regular people down.

01:29:07.000 They've lionized Luigi Mangione and people like that.

01:29:10.000 So I completely understand or completely agree with your point.

01:29:17.000 It is the left that's kind of ramping all this stuff up, you know?

01:29:20.000 But go ahead.

01:29:22.000 Oh, I was just in agreement.

01:29:24.000 It's...

01:29:24.000 I think...

01:29:26.000 I mean, I'm going to keep comparing it to the French Revolution, where once you get to the end of it, you know what it is, but you know the people of this part of the journey, they hadn't realized what was going on.

01:29:40.000 And...

01:29:42.000 The other thing is that even if there isn't a war in America, I think there has to be a war around the world where the tensions we talk about in America, I have a hobby, I watch documentaries from around the world, and you look at South Korea, you look at Australia, you look at France,

01:29:57.000 you look at Canada, China, every country in the world is talking about the same crises.

01:30:03.000 Those crises being...

01:30:05.000 Housing costs, not enough jobs, crisis in mating, crisis in meaning, crisis in just people, lack of will to live.

01:30:15.000 And it's just, it's constant around the world.

01:30:18.000 And you'll see it the worst so even in places like China that are completely different civilizations.

01:30:23.000 It's heartbreaking to see the stories that come out of China now.

01:30:26.000 Like what?

01:30:27.000 Oh, it's just insane.

01:30:30.000 Where you hear, like, China's...

01:30:34.000 Gone full totalitarian mode.

01:30:36.000 And it'll take me a while to explain what all of that entails.

01:30:38.000 But there's a two million gap in the amount of cremations vis-a-vis the deaths accounted for.

01:30:48.000 So two million more cremations for causes of death that are basically unmarked.

01:30:55.000 What does that mean?

01:30:56.000 So from the Chinese records...

01:30:59.000 So with deaths, cremations, they burn the body.

01:31:02.000 They're burning 2 million more bodies than they're statistically accredited for.

01:31:05.000 So then where are those bodies?

01:31:07.000 Are you suggesting that they're killing off their own people?

01:31:10.000 They're mass-executing people?

01:31:11.000 They did that before.

01:31:12.000 They killed 40 million people within living memory.

01:31:15.000 It was the bloodiest atrocity in history.

01:31:17.000 And they're probably doing it to the Uyghurs.

01:31:19.000 They're probably doing it to their own people.

01:31:22.000 They were starving Shanghai for months because another Communist Party clique was there.

01:31:26.000 They've gone full totalitarian.

01:31:29.000 They teach warfare among the elementary school students.

01:31:32.000 And this stuff sounds crazy, but this is what totalitarian regimes always do.

01:31:37.000 And when Hitler and Stalin were killing people and Mao were killing people, we had no idea.

01:31:42.000 Wow.

01:31:44.000 I check China more than I check America, and every single time I check China, it's worse.

01:31:50.000 Sounds kind of like whatever does happen after the dust settles, it's going to be probably Catholic conservatives.

01:31:58.000 That are going to be left standing in the United States, and that's because of their high birth rates relative to any other faction, or you could argue that some areas might be Muslim.

01:32:06.000 But because there's more Catholics in the U.S. than Muslims, I'd estimate that if there is a great catastrophe, if this fourth generation—I'm sorry, the fourth turning happens, and within the next 10 or 15 years there's a war or whatever, Catholics, I believe, are at like 2.3 fertility rate.

01:32:24.000 There's a— I'm sorry to cut you off, but there's a sci-fi novel called Fitzpatrick's War, and I have basically made this book.

01:32:31.000 It's so expensive you can't buy it, because there were a few copies that it was published in the 90s, but it has a fascinating...

01:32:40.000 It has a fascinating story of the future that's set in the 25th century.

01:32:44.000 And in its backstory, the world's population crashes from 11 billion to 1 billion over the course of the 21st century.

01:32:50.000 And America has a multi-step, multi-decade civil war where the left basically devolves into inner-city criminal organizations.

01:33:00.000 And the right...

01:33:01.000 It becomes taken up by these intentional communities of conservatives who move out to the countryside to avoid the city's degeneracy.

01:33:09.000 Then what happens is that these rural people form a new nationality called the Yukons.

01:33:13.000 The Yukons build the new American Republic on the ruins of the destroyed America.

01:33:17.000 The Muslims populate Europe, the Chinese populate East Asia, and the population collapse occurs due to a combination of birth rate crash, genetically engineered diseases, war, and supply chain issues.

01:33:30.000 That sounds awesome.

01:33:34.000 Have you guys read or seen A Handmaid's Tale?

01:33:37.000 I have.

01:33:38.000 It's a good book.

01:33:39.000 So, I've not...

01:33:41.000 I tried watching the show a little bit, but I didn't care.

01:33:44.000 I didn't read it.

01:33:44.000 But what I've heard a lot from feminists, and I'm not sure this accurately portrays the book, is that it's basically women are forced to have babies for their country.

01:33:52.000 But my understanding is that the story is about a post-apocalyptic America and a collapsing birth rate and humans facing extinction.

01:34:00.000 So, the book is really good.

01:34:02.000 The TV show's not, which is sad.

01:34:04.000 And it's about—it was written in the 90s, and it's about a world where, due to— Some failing of industrial chemical processing, the vast majority of women are infertile.

01:34:14.000 And so in order to solve the population crisis, religious conservatives launch a coup, and then they basically force women into sex slavery.

01:34:23.000 And so that's the thesis where the main character, the handmaid, she is one of the polygamous wives of the ruling, of one of the ruling nobility of this state called Gilead.

01:34:33.000 It's based in the suburbs of Boston.

01:34:35.000 So I was just thinking about that because I'm like...

01:34:38.000 If humanity was facing extinction, I mean, what...

01:34:43.000 Obviously, if the story's gonna get into, like, these guys are corrupt and they're evil, I'm not talking about that.

01:34:48.000 If society is facing extinction, would you not need to have women have babies?

01:34:55.000 You posit a trick question.

01:34:57.000 That's an honest question.

01:34:59.000 It's, um...

01:35:00.000 So...

01:35:02.000 You...

01:35:03.000 You look at the events...

01:35:05.000 At that point, you wouldn't need to force anyone to have...

01:35:07.000 Babies.

01:35:08.000 I disagree.

01:35:09.000 Look at the show The Last of Us.

01:35:12.000 Have you seen it?

01:35:13.000 Yeah.

01:35:14.000 Are you watching season two?

01:35:15.000 No.

01:35:16.000 It's the apocalypse and there's like a bunch of lesbians and gay people all over the place.

01:35:21.000 Well, that's because it's a TV show written by people.

01:35:24.000 But this is the worldview those people have.

01:35:27.000 Yeah.

01:35:27.000 That's why they hate A Handmaid's Tale.

01:35:29.000 And that's why The Last of Us is like, in the apocalypse, you're not going to procreate for children.

01:35:33.000 They don't hate The Handmaid's Tale.

01:35:35.000 They secretly love The Handmaid's Tale in the same way that they love Fifty Shades of Grey.

01:35:40.000 The Catgirl Kulak take.

01:35:43.000 But it's true.

01:35:45.000 I can't say that it's true.

01:35:46.000 But it does seem likely that the reason that they're so obsessed with it is because they all secretly desire to be The Handmaiden.

01:35:54.000 So looking at behavioral sync, And, you know, the Rat Utopia experiment I'm sure you're familiar with?

01:35:59.000 Yes.

01:36:00.000 They couldn't correct those behaviors in the rats.

01:36:02.000 I'm pretty sure that if you took, like, New York, the average New Yorker, and society collapsed, they would still not want to have kids.

01:36:11.000 It's not going to change.

01:36:13.000 He said, as the pattern goes, when a society becomes wealthy, or I don't know what level of wealth that would be, people stop having children, is the only solution for...

01:36:25.000 our country to just plummet into poverty?

01:36:27.000 Is that the solution to bring the birth rate back up?

01:36:29.000 Um...

01:36:30.000 That's a good question.

01:36:32.000 So if you look at the previous civilizational collapses, it's barbarians and religious people tend to be the ones who procreate.

01:36:39.000 That was the fall of Rome.

01:36:41.000 That was the fall of Islam.

01:36:42.000 It's most empires.

01:36:45.000 It's the whole hard men Make soft times.

01:36:51.000 Soft times make soft men, which make bad times.

01:36:54.000 And then the cycle restarts.

01:36:55.000 You know, interestingly, we've already built artificial womb incubators.

01:37:01.000 That's going to be a disaster.

01:37:03.000 Kids need their mom.

01:37:05.000 I'm sorry to cut you off.

01:37:06.000 No, no, no.

01:37:06.000 Hold on.

01:37:07.000 Because you are correct.

01:37:08.000 But what I'm saying is we've grown – I think they grew a lamb in a bag.

01:37:12.000 Yep.

01:37:13.000 Yeah, if society collapsed and fertility was collapsing, then – You wouldn't need to take the country over and force them to do anything.

01:37:20.000 They would just replace the women with bags.

01:37:24.000 It's not good, but it's true.

01:37:26.000 Then all the babies would be effed up.

01:37:28.000 Yeah.

01:37:29.000 But humans wouldn't be extinct.

01:37:31.000 I mean, my...

01:37:32.000 It's called an extra uterine system.

01:37:36.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:37:37.000 They're already effed up.

01:37:40.000 I mean, look at the Romanian kids, where they did a program like that in Romania, and all of the kids just became completely dysfunctional as adults.

01:37:52.000 I mean, what's going to happen is that...

01:37:55.000 Gen Z backs the use of artificial wounds.

01:37:57.000 Great.

01:37:57.000 Oh, great.

01:37:58.000 The psyoped ones.

01:38:01.000 So...

01:38:01.000 Life is a natural equilibrium, and one of the things modern people struggle with is the universe is a responsive system so that when something goes bad, the public moves in another direction.

01:38:13.000 And so the people who have children, their children will furthermore have children, and it will create cultural norms where the culture is a responsive system that will adjust as things get bad.

01:38:29.000 So you think it's just a problem that over time solves itself and we don't need to plummet into poverty for this?

01:38:35.000 The world's ended 20 times before in history.

01:38:38.000 The story keeps going.

01:38:39.000 Yeah.

01:38:40.000 Okay.

01:38:41.000 So poverty isn't the solution.

01:38:42.000 It's just time.

01:38:44.000 If we're...

01:38:46.000 We could avoid poverty if we played our cards well, because if you have a free market economy and you have property rights, you're probably not going to be poor.

01:38:54.000 Poverty is mostly an outgrowth of certain economic incentive structures.

01:38:59.000 The thing with the fall of Rome as well is that after Rome fell, the average height and quality of life for the average person outside Italy went up, because Rome was a predatory system that took from the empire to feed Italy.

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01:40:42.000 We're now going to grab your guys' Super Chats and Rumble Rants.

01:40:47.000 Shay H. Wilder says four Democrats have withdrawn their co-sponsorship of Sri Tenedar's impeachment push.

01:40:51.000 You gotta love it.

01:40:52.000 I guess I'll just have to go back to yelling Deplane Deplane at Ricardo Montalban.

01:40:57.000 I loved him in that movie.

01:40:59.000 He looks just like him.

01:41:02.000 All right.

01:41:03.000 Catachrome says, Signal is insanely secure.

01:41:05.000 The military uses it all the time.

01:41:07.000 I do want to make one clarification, just because it's three-tenant-art thing.

01:41:12.000 I tweeted out about the Piers Morgan show.

01:41:14.000 I wasn't tweeting that out to have any beef with them.

01:41:16.000 I wasn't mad.

01:41:17.000 So here's what happened.

01:41:19.000 They invited us on the show.

01:41:20.000 They often do.

01:41:20.000 Sometimes we can make it, sometimes we can't.

01:41:22.000 I think Piers does a pretty good job on these panels.

01:41:25.000 Sometimes, I had one with Brianna Joy Gray that was very calm and rational.

01:41:31.000 It was a good conversation.

01:41:32.000 He invited me on and gave me the opportunity to actually confront Sri Tanadar, and I'm tremendously appreciative of that.

01:41:39.000 It was amazing.

01:41:39.000 He asked to join this panel with Cenk Uygur, Carrie Lake, Bacha Unger-Sargon, and the congressman who's impeaching Trump, and I got to give him some choice words.

01:41:46.000 However, what happened was, towards the end of the show, on our end, what we saw was we were kicked out of the room.

01:41:54.000 All audio dropped on our end, and...

01:41:57.000 The video link player that connects us to their studio just showed their production backend, their name.

01:42:02.000 We could no longer see anybody.

01:42:05.000 And so I'm sitting here confused, like, are we booted?

01:42:08.000 And then Kel and the producer was like, I have no idea.

01:42:12.000 He then mutes me because he's like, I don't know if this is going through or not.

01:42:16.000 I said, I don't know if they kicked us out of the room or if we're going to get brought in.

01:42:19.000 After a few minutes, I just said, okay, I guess we're out.

01:42:21.000 And I closed it out.

01:42:23.000 Apparently, I didn't know this, but we were still feeding into their system.

01:42:26.000 They just stopped feeding to us.

01:42:28.000 It wasn't an issue of our internet.

01:42:30.000 And so on their end, it looked like we got cut off.

01:42:32.000 So then someone told me that they were saying we had technical difficulties.

01:42:36.000 I was like, no, we didn't.

01:42:37.000 They booted us from the production room for whatever reason.

01:42:40.000 They had a difficulty.

01:42:40.000 I don't know.

01:42:41.000 I'm not mad at them.

01:42:42.000 And so I tweeted out, we didn't have any technical difficulties.

01:42:45.000 We have multiple internet redundancies.

01:42:47.000 We were still feeding to their show.

01:42:49.000 They booted us from the room somehow, and we couldn't reconnect.

01:42:52.000 That was not me saying they did anything wrong.

01:42:54.000 But I guess, you know, Mary pointed out, sounds like drama.

01:42:57.000 So it got a thousand retweets.

01:42:59.000 And I was like, I was trying to clarify that we didn't have an issue.

01:43:02.000 We just, it was like, I assume we got accidentally bumped from the room.

01:43:05.000 I don't want anybody to think that I got beef with peers.

01:43:08.000 There's no drama.

01:43:09.000 I'm grateful he had me on the show.

01:43:10.000 I thought it was a fun show.

01:43:11.000 I look forward to doing the show again.

01:43:12.000 And I think it was informative, entertaining.

01:43:15.000 And I think it may be a contributing factor to why Shri Tanadar is losing support for his impeachment push.

01:43:20.000 Not because of me, because of Carrie Lake.

01:43:23.000 Saying, who are you even?

01:43:25.000 And Cenk Uygur laughing at him saying, this is like, he was basically like, you're going to get Republicans back.

01:43:30.000 This is stupid.

01:43:31.000 You're wasting our time.

01:43:32.000 And I was just laughing, being like, bipartisan support against the impeachment guy.

01:43:37.000 But I just want to make that clear because, you know, I don't want people to think that I got beef or that Piers did anything wrong.

01:43:42.000 I think it was just a technical error on their end.

01:43:45.000 I don't know.

01:43:47.000 And that's why you could still see me.

01:43:48.000 But let's get some more Super Chats.

01:43:51.000 Quantum Strange Quark says, Tim, please try to get Doug Tennape?

01:43:56.000 Is that what it says?

01:43:56.000 Tenapal?

01:43:57.000 Doug in exile on the show.

01:43:58.000 He's the creator of the Earthworm Jim comic, and YouTube just restored multiple channels for him and apologized for banning him.

01:44:04.000 Why'd they ban him?

01:44:06.000 Probably something stupid.

01:44:08.000 Yeah.

01:44:10.000 Millennial Mama says, My truck driver husband saw your billboard in Indy yesterday.

01:44:14.000 Well done, good sir.

01:44:15.000 It's nice to see someone doing stuff like this.

01:44:17.000 Thank you very much.

01:44:19.000 Yeah, we've got billboards all over the Rust Belt.

01:44:21.000 Interesting.

01:44:22.000 I like the Rust Belt the best, probably because I'm from there.

01:44:25.000 But I do think you're going to find these areas probably will resonate with the show that we have.

01:44:33.000 They're not staunch conservatives, but they don't like where the Democrats are going.

01:44:36.000 The Democrats are supporting rich people and not the working class.

01:44:39.000 So our best areas, demographically, tend to be like Chicago and Indiana, Ohio and stuff.

01:44:45.000 I'm just going to cut you off.

01:44:47.000 I started watching you when I was a teenager in the Rust Belt.

01:44:50.000 And yeah, I agree with that branding.

01:44:53.000 This show fits that area.

01:44:54.000 Well, that's where I'm from.

01:44:56.000 So we looked at Miami, and I was like, I don't think that's a good idea.

01:45:02.000 Miami is not the place for a show like this.

01:45:04.000 You have to have the billboards in Spanish.

01:45:07.000 I don't know.

01:45:08.000 You know, everybody was saying just get one up there, but we are in Nashville.

01:45:12.000 We're in downtown Nashville.

01:45:13.000 I think that makes sense.

01:45:14.000 I mean, look, I'm a fan of Florida, but...

01:45:17.000 It's just, you know, dating shows.

01:45:21.000 If you've got a dating podcast, Miami Billboard's a winner.

01:45:25.000 I'm sorry to cut you off again, but I heard you had Myron as a guy yesterday.

01:45:30.000 I think Fresh and Fit's a good show.

01:45:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:45:34.000 Myron, you know, he's a controversial guy.

01:45:36.000 But when he comes on and he talks about the law enforcement stuff, he nails it.

01:45:40.000 And even when he's talking about the stuff that's fairly controversial, he is nice.

01:45:47.000 Wow, nah, he was not nice on X for a while, but he's chilled out.

01:45:50.000 I mean, nice with us.

01:45:51.000 Oh, yeah, I know.

01:45:52.000 He's polite, and he doesn't, you know, it's not, he's not spurring out or anything.

01:45:57.000 He'll make his arguments.

01:45:58.000 He'll disagree.

01:46:00.000 Myron and I had a couple disagreements last night, and he was totally cool about it, and he's, you know.

01:46:04.000 No weird green room behavior.

01:46:07.000 No weird green room.

01:46:08.000 No weird handshake.

01:46:08.000 Spicy.

01:46:09.000 None.

01:46:10.000 None at all.

01:46:11.000 None at all.

01:46:12.000 No, but, like, talking immigration, because he did...

01:46:15.000 Federal law enforcement stuff with ICE?

01:46:17.000 That's a great conversation.

01:46:18.000 But I got a lot of people don't like him because of his...

01:46:22.000 The jewels!

01:46:23.000 Yeah, well, because he...

01:46:24.000 It's because he's...

01:46:27.000 He said he doesn't do this anymore, but it's because he's mean to people mercilessly on X. Well, that was a debate that we had last time he was on about whether or not he believes that free speech needs to include being able to insult people.

01:46:41.000 And I was like, well, then you should say that free speech should include porn then.

01:46:46.000 And he's like, well, no, it's not free speech.

01:46:48.000 And I'm like, well, then maybe it shouldn't include insulting people.

01:46:51.000 Because you can make your arguments in a...

01:46:54.000 You know, in a clear way that's not insulting people and still make controversial arguments.

01:47:00.000 But he's like, well, you know, I should be able to say blah, blah, blah.

01:47:02.000 And he is definitely a bomb thrower on Twitter and on his own.

01:47:07.000 Let's grab some more chats.

01:47:08.000 We got Tim Pohl, the Pokemon, not me, says Trump is immune from any criticism.

01:47:12.000 All he has to do when confronted on any topic is turn to the camera and say, but Obama killed two American citizens without trial.

01:47:18.000 It was more than two.

01:47:19.000 Damn.

01:47:20.000 I'm pretty sure it was more than two.

01:47:21.000 Let's get the hard numbers.

01:47:23.000 How many Americans did Obama kill?

01:47:27.000 I thought it was like four or five.

01:47:29.000 It's at least two.

01:47:31.000 Anwar Al-Awlaki and Abdul Rahman.

01:47:33.000 Let's see.

01:47:35.000 ChatGPT.

01:47:36.000 During President Barack Obama's admins, that's all it said, four American citizens.

01:47:44.000 Yeah, Obama killed four American citizens.

01:47:46.000 Without due process.

01:47:48.000 And ChatGPT is really not wanting to give me this information.

01:47:50.000 Shame on you, Barack.

01:47:52.000 Of these, only Anwar was specifically targeted.

01:47:55.000 Samir Khan, an American citizen and editor of Al-Qaeda's English-language magazine Inspire, was killed alongside al-Awlaki.

01:48:01.000 Really?

01:48:03.000 I should have known that.

01:48:05.000 Abdul Rahman, we know, 16-year-old, killed two weeks later in a separate drone strike in Yemen.

01:48:09.000 He was not the intended target.

01:48:11.000 That's a lie.

01:48:11.000 I don't believe these people for two seconds.

01:48:13.000 Jude Kanan Mohammed.

01:48:14.000 American citizen indicted on terror charges killed in a drone strike in Pakistan.

01:48:18.000 They say he was not specifically targeted.

01:48:20.000 So Obama killed four American citizens without charge or trial.

01:48:23.000 If I was Trump and anybody criticized, you know, Mr. President, you are deporting people, I'd be like, were you, did you do a report on Barack Obama murdering four Americans?

01:48:34.000 And they're like, well, that was a long time ago.

01:48:36.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:48:36.000 Can I pull it up?

01:48:38.000 Can I read your website where you talked about that?

01:48:40.000 Is that on ABC?

01:48:41.000 Can I look it up?

01:48:43.000 No, it's not there.

01:48:44.000 Spare me.

01:48:45.000 Your criticisms mean nothing.

01:48:46.000 He should just be like, well, should I drone strike all the illegal immigrants?

01:48:50.000 Remember Hillary?

01:48:51.000 About Julian Assange?

01:48:52.000 Can't we just drone this guy?

01:48:53.000 And they're like, ma 'am, he's in London.

01:48:55.000 And she was like, and?

01:48:56.000 I'm kidding.

01:48:57.000 She didn't say that.

01:48:58.000 I wish she did that one.

01:49:00.000 Nowadays, with the Ginsu Hellfire, you could actually do that.

01:49:05.000 Let's go.

01:49:06.000 What else do we got?

01:49:06.000 Nuke Jukum says, Tucker Carlson already said the NSA could read his signal messages when they leaked his plans for the Putin interview.

01:49:16.000 I mean, yeah.

01:49:20.000 Spartan Megan says, Tim, everything I've read about expedited removal only pertains to those here two years or less.

01:49:24.000 What should we do for those who have been here longer?

01:49:26.000 Ow!

01:49:29.000 My point on expedited removal is when the people come here and you're like, you are not here legally, you gotta go.

01:49:35.000 You gotta go.

01:49:36.000 My point is due process for these people is not a jury trial.

01:49:40.000 The people who've been here longer, it's...

01:49:43.000 You know, I don't see why it would be any different.

01:49:47.000 You gotta go.

01:49:48.000 Goodbye.

01:49:51.000 It's Rev says, Tim, call Alex Jones.

01:49:55.000 It is time.

01:49:57.000 What is that?

01:49:58.000 We haven't had him on the show in a long time?

01:50:01.000 You know what we should do?

01:50:02.000 We gotta have him at a culture war live.

01:50:04.000 Definitely.

01:50:05.000 Yeah, he's a busy guy, though.

01:50:06.000 So it's hard to tell anybody who's got a show, hey, fly to D.C. and do this show, you know what I mean?

01:50:11.000 But this Saturday, Culture War Live is going to be epic.

01:50:14.000 It's probably going to be a chaotic mess, but that's why we asked Alex Stein to show up.

01:50:18.000 That way, if it is a chaotic mess, we can just be like, that was always intended.

01:50:22.000 That's why Alex's here.

01:50:24.000 You know, so we can pretend like we were doing it on purpose.

01:50:26.000 You know, we'll figure it out.

01:50:29.000 What have we here?

01:50:30.000 Shedox says, a few weeks ago they ran a story.

01:50:33.000 That Cash had been fired.

01:50:34.000 No one noticed because it was BS.

01:50:36.000 Did they really?

01:50:38.000 That's hilarious.

01:50:40.000 Oh, I heard about that, yeah.

01:50:41.000 Really?

01:50:42.000 Yeah.

01:50:43.000 At least with Waltz, there was some kind of backstory of like, oh, they're upset about the signal gate, etc.

01:50:51.000 Wait, was this because of the ATF thing?

01:50:55.000 Oh, you're asking me?

01:50:56.000 I don't remember.

01:50:57.000 I just remember what happened.

01:50:59.000 Because...

01:51:01.000 When I looked up Cachepetel fired, it says removed as acting chief of the ATF, and they put someone else in.

01:51:06.000 I wonder if that's why people thought he was getting fired.

01:51:10.000 I don't know.

01:51:11.000 They could be.

01:51:13.000 Because that was a couple weeks ago.

01:51:17.000 Alright, what do we got here?

01:51:20.000 St. Miles says, Cachepetel even said Robbie should get $100 million.

01:51:25.000 Really?

01:51:27.000 Pinochet says, sorry, Tim, if you think Robbie will get a jury of his peers and not his enemies in Blue Delaware, if he even gets a trial, I have a unicorn to sell you.

01:51:34.000 Our courts are political star chambers.

01:51:36.000 Indeed.

01:51:37.000 I mean, that's true.

01:51:37.000 But I'll tell you this.

01:51:39.000 I mean, if it were me and Facebook admitted it, I'd say, Facebook, you're worth a trillion dollars.

01:51:48.000 Give me a hundred million.

01:51:51.000 Zuck is going based, though.

01:51:53.000 No, he's not.

01:51:53.000 At least that's what appears on the outside.

01:51:55.000 He's lying.

01:51:55.000 I agree with that.

01:51:57.000 But it's nice that you sometimes get the political signaling.

01:52:00.000 Because Zuck, you know he's not an authentic conservative.

01:52:03.000 The fact that he's going in this direction means the left is not doing well.

01:52:06.000 It does signal that his sociopathic tendencies targeting conservatism means he believes conservatives are the right side of history at this point.

01:52:15.000 You're right.

01:52:16.000 Yeah.

01:52:16.000 We reached out to his team and asked him to come on the show, and they said at this point we would politely decline.

01:52:22.000 Yet he's doing the podcast circuit and he's going on shows where no one will challenge him.

01:52:27.000 Indeed.

01:52:28.000 That's what liberals do.

01:52:29.000 Conservatives beg to go on any show so they can...

01:52:32.000 It's funny, like, you watch Mike Lindell go on Jimmy Kimmel and you're like, Mike, what are you doing?

01:52:36.000 He's making fun of you.

01:52:36.000 And Mike's like, I want to go there and talk.

01:52:38.000 I want the opportunity to speak to these people.

01:52:40.000 It's like, okay.

01:52:41.000 Do you think Joe Rogan didn't challenge Zuckerberg?

01:52:44.000 Absolutely.

01:52:46.000 Absolutely Joe Rogan did not challenge Zuckerberg.

01:52:48.000 I only saw clips, so I didn't...

01:52:49.000 And I don't mean that disrespectfully.

01:52:51.000 I've got no issue with Joe Rogan not knowing about the Twitter issue with Jack Dorsey when that happened.

01:52:56.000 And I am eternally grateful that he invited me on for that show.

01:53:00.000 It was crazy.

01:53:00.000 I mean, who am I?

01:53:02.000 Joe Rogan, the biggest podcast in the world was like, Tim, come in here and debate Jack Dorsey.

01:53:06.000 I actually told him I was like, you're nuts.

01:53:07.000 I was like, bro, you're kicking...

01:53:09.000 I literally said this.

01:53:10.000 You're kicking the baby bird out of the nest making me debate this guy.

01:53:12.000 I mean, I'll do it.

01:53:13.000 I can't say no.

01:53:14.000 And he's like, oh, you're good, man.

01:53:15.000 Just come on the show and we'll do it.

01:53:18.000 Joe Rogan.

01:53:20.000 Has Zuckerberg on his show?

01:53:23.000 Zuckerberg did a bunch of things that they were not challenged on.

01:53:27.000 Going back to 2016, when he had staff that were deleting conservative news stories, you had the backdoor that was run by the feds where they could log in.

01:53:36.000 I mean, let me pull this up.

01:53:38.000 Facebook, backdoor, feds, intercept.

01:53:43.000 This is the one thing I really wish that he brought up.

01:53:47.000 Secret program gives NSA FBI backdoor access.

01:53:51.000 No, that's Apple.

01:53:52.000 Let me find it.

01:53:53.000 It was an intercept story, I'm pretty sure.

01:53:58.000 Google's not loading the intercept.

01:54:01.000 I'd have to pull this up at a later date.

01:54:03.000 Many of you may remember the story that Twitter and Facebook both were allowing backdoors for the government to log into the flag content they wanted removed.

01:54:11.000 Did Facebook give the government...

01:54:17.000 Excess.

01:54:18.000 Oh, they did.

01:54:19.000 Totally.

01:54:19.000 They did.

01:54:20.000 I just want to find the story specifically because I believe it was the Intercept that reported it.

01:54:23.000 This is one of the...

01:54:25.000 It was in the Twitter files, too.

01:54:26.000 Taylor was talking about it.

01:54:28.000 Yeah.

01:54:29.000 Man, ChatTPT is so slow and awful.

01:54:32.000 ChatTPT just says, yes, they absolutely did.

01:54:34.000 They did a bunch.

01:54:35.000 It happens all the time.

01:54:36.000 They do it all the time.

01:54:36.000 My specific issue was that Zuckerberg's going like, you know, we made a mistake with the story on Hunter Biden and we shouldn't have done it.

01:54:44.000 And the government was calling us and telling these things.

01:54:46.000 And if I was there, I would have said, what about the story from The Intercept that said that you actually built, you coded a backdoor for the federal government to log in and flag content you wanted removed?

01:54:57.000 I mean, that's tremendous.

01:55:00.000 And I think the issue largely is that this is not Joe's domain, and I don't mean it to be a dick.

01:55:05.000 Joe's a comedian who talks about issues that he thinks are important with people he finds interesting, and that's why he has the best show.

01:55:12.000 This is why Zuckerberg won't go on other shows.

01:55:15.000 He went on Theo Vaughn because, once again, it's a comedian who's going to give him a big platform to pretend like he's being based or moderate or whatever, and he's not.

01:55:24.000 But he's being cringed the whole time.

01:55:27.000 I really want to pull this story up, though, but this always happens because they bury it.

01:55:34.000 Pretty sure it was The Intercept.

01:55:36.000 Whoops, that's the wrong one.

01:55:38.000 That was Cash Patel.

01:55:43.000 What is this one?

01:55:45.000 Intercept.

01:55:45.000 Leaked documents outline DHS's plans to police disinformation.

01:55:50.000 That's funny, too.

01:55:51.000 But that's an aside.

01:55:53.000 Anyway.

01:55:54.000 Well, we covered the story a million and one times, so I guess I'll just define the story.

01:55:57.000 The Verge has it.

01:55:58.000 The secret program gives NSA FBI backdoor to access to Apple, Google, Facebook.

01:56:03.000 It says Facebook?

01:56:04.000 Yeah.

01:56:04.000 You want the...

01:56:05.000 Oh, okay.

01:56:05.000 No, that's fine.

01:56:06.000 I mean, the story exists.

01:56:07.000 Everybody knows you can Google it.

01:56:08.000 I'm not going to say it for 20 years.

01:56:10.000 Nicholas Williams says Asmongold is bigger than Hasan.

01:56:14.000 Yeah, I noticed he wasn't on that streamer tracker.

01:56:16.000 Where does he stream?

01:56:17.000 He streams on Twitch, if I understand.

01:56:20.000 Really?

01:56:20.000 I think it's Twitch.

01:56:21.000 It might be...

01:56:22.000 Why isn't he coming up on the charts?

01:56:25.000 I don't know.

01:56:26.000 It's, as you said, it depends on how you want to measure it.

01:56:29.000 I'm sure in some charts, Asmongold's the biggest.

01:56:31.000 I'm sure in others, Hasan's bigger.

01:56:33.000 Depends what metric you're pulling from.

01:56:36.000 I know that he's got a big show, so he should be on this list very easily.

01:56:39.000 Unless he didn't stream this one day, maybe.

01:56:42.000 Maybe I should look...

01:56:42.000 Oh, I should look at a different day.

01:56:45.000 Now we can see where Asmongold ranks.

01:56:48.000 He was off for like a week.

01:56:49.000 He was off for the week?

01:56:50.000 He took a week off, yeah.

01:56:51.000 Ah, that explains it.

01:56:53.000 So let's just go back in time.

01:56:56.000 Oh, let's see.

01:56:58.000 I'm still not seeing him on this thing.

01:57:00.000 Dr. Disrespect.

01:57:04.000 Yeah, I don't see him.

01:57:06.000 It's the Rubin Report.

01:57:07.000 Tucker Carlson, Jinxie, Pat McAfee, Steven Crowder.

01:57:15.000 I don't know.

01:57:16.000 I'll look into it later.

01:57:21.000 Heisenberg says Sam Harris is better for sleep.

01:57:25.000 Yeah, but at least Lex Fridman's show actually has information in it.

01:57:29.000 Sam Harris is just a regime propagandist.

01:57:33.000 Like, he'll believe whatever the regime tells him to.

01:57:36.000 Right.

01:57:37.000 Yeah, he's bad.

01:57:39.000 He was interesting prior to Trump.

01:57:41.000 But once Trump became an entity, there's no use for him at all.

01:57:47.000 New atheism was cannibalized...

01:57:50.000 Ooh!

01:57:51.000 No, keep going.

01:57:52.000 Oh, new atheism was one of the first things to get cannibalized by the left.

01:57:56.000 The whole elevator gate.

01:57:58.000 Atheism plus, yes.

01:57:59.000 And atheism plus, that kind of...

01:58:01.000 Wait, what's elevator gate?

01:58:03.000 New atheism was this...

01:58:05.000 uh, relatively popular movement.

01:58:08.000 Are you aware of it?

01:58:09.000 Yeah. Okay, great.

01:58:09.000 So for the audience, new atheism was popular like 15 years ago.

01:58:13.000 And, uh, the thing that destroyed the new atheist movement was a guy asked a girl out on a date in an elevator and he was not a particularly good looking guy.

01:58:23.000 And then, um,

01:58:25.000 And then she made a big deal out of it, and then it caused a huge issue inside the new atheist community about whether or not that was acceptable.

01:58:31.000 Who is this guy?

01:58:32.000 I forget.

01:58:33.000 He's not an important—he was not a historic figure.

01:58:37.000 And so this tore apart new atheism, which had a lot of leftist components.

01:58:42.000 So after that, all of new atheism served the left's interests, and it stopped actually being its own movement about— Doing things.

01:58:50.000 So it's like the elevator has the implication.

01:58:52.000 It's just a funny word.

01:58:54.000 People say gate attached to anything.

01:58:56.000 Yep.

01:58:56.000 But if you ask a girl out in an elevator, there's like the implication.

01:58:59.000 Oh, yes.

01:59:00.000 Exactly.

01:59:01.000 Mm-hmm.

01:59:03.000 All right.

01:59:03.000 Lima Guy says, Tim, I'm a boomer.

01:59:05.000 I'm way out of your demographics.

01:59:06.000 You are correct.

01:59:07.000 When we're gone, it's going to be a cluster.

01:59:09.000 Oh, yeah.

01:59:09.000 I'm glad my parents are gone.

01:59:11.000 I don't want them to see this ish show.

01:59:14.000 It's wild.

01:59:15.000 You know what's crazy?

01:59:16.000 I'm going to be 40 in one year.

01:59:18.000 I am 39 years old.

01:59:20.000 It's kind of crazy how, like, how much...

01:59:24.000 It's been 10 years of this deranged, psychotic reality.

01:59:29.000 That's kind of the point, I guess.

01:59:31.000 Never would have thought this is where we'd be.

01:59:33.000 Entrenched in this psychotic, insane landmine of...

01:59:37.000 I don't know, man.

01:59:40.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, breaking points is like 90% Trump these days.

01:59:44.000 I pulled it up.

01:59:45.000 It's not, at least not right now.

01:59:48.000 Did I close that out?

01:59:50.000 No, I'll give credit to breaking points.

01:59:52.000 I think crystal ball has gone off the deep end, but you've got Trump, then you've got tech CEO, then you've got Pritzker, then you've got Rubio, but Trump's in the thumbnail, then you've got Elon, then you've got Trump, then you've got African journalists as USAID is bad,

02:00:10.000 Zionists, US Jet Falls, then you've got Trump, then you've got MAGA influencers, I think.

02:00:16.000 I don't think they're as deranged.

02:00:18.000 There's a lot of Trump in here, but Trump is the president.

02:00:20.000 So that's what I was saying the other day, too.

02:00:22.000 Like, we obviously have a large amount of content that's Trump, too.

02:00:26.000 He's the president.

02:00:27.000 It's fine if you're talking about what the president is doing, but every single video, and it's always bad?

02:00:35.000 Jeez.

02:00:36.000 It's sad if you read what Marxists wrote 50 years ago, because they were so much smarter back in the day.

02:00:42.000 They had their whole theory of history with the dialectic, and you go from the slave state to the feudal state to the capitalist state.

02:00:48.000 And to see them fallen this far, Daddy Marx would not be proud.

02:00:52.000 Daddy Marx does not want Hassan to have a Gucci bag.

02:00:55.000 He wants them to study the dialectic.

02:00:57.000 Ask Hassan how much he paid for his dog.

02:01:01.000 much?

02:01:02.000 Some kind of designer.

02:01:04.000 Multiple thousands of dollars, yeah.

02:01:08.000 couple more chats.

02:01:09.000 We got enough time for maybe one more.

02:01:11.000 All right, Jacob Jones says, Tim, your guest is giving out back-to-back black pills, but then sprinkles.

02:01:19.000 in those hopeful white pills and somehow I'm just accepting this with enthusiasm because I like the guest's perspective.

02:01:24.000 You will conquer.

02:01:25.000 We will win.

02:01:26.000 We will destroy our enemies and survive.

02:01:29.000 This is a mere momentary moment of terror in which we will later conquer.

02:01:33.000 This is but a moment.

02:01:34.000 Whoa. Zavik says, according to JGPT, the Amish have a 6.2 birth rate followed by the LDS Church at 3.4.

02:01:40.000 The leaders of the LDS Church

02:01:43.000 Wow!

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02:04:30.000 you.

02:04:39.000 One of the things I've looked at in the process of looking at where all this money is going is the underground base and city infrastructure and transportation system that's been built.

02:04:51.000 I'm sorry?

02:04:53.000 Yes.

02:04:53.000 So we have built an extraordinary number of underground bases and supposedly transportation systems.

02:05:02.000 Some of these are documented as part of the national security infrastructure.

02:05:09.000 I think there are many more.

02:05:11.000 In the United States?

02:05:12.000 In the United States.

02:05:14.000 All over the world.

02:05:15.000 They estimate 170.

02:05:17.000 They're called deep underground military bases.

02:05:20.000 And they've been speculated at for a very long time that they're actually living city infrastructure underground.

02:05:27.000 And what, light rail between them?

02:05:29.000 Yep.

02:05:30.000 Pete Buttigieg is all over this.

02:05:32.000 I honestly think it's true.

02:05:34.000 I think it's real.

02:05:35.000 Yeah.

02:05:36.000 People say that the tunnels in D.C. are a secret.

02:05:38.000 Those are the ones we're allowed to know about.

02:05:40.000 Because they can't keep it a secret that they have escape routes for the president and the White House.

02:05:45.000 But, look, man, the U.S. government's got a lot of money and a lot of time.

02:05:50.000 They make the money.

02:05:52.000 They're going to build a whole bunch of crazy-ass shit.

02:05:55.000 And they're going to go live in their deep underground bunkers.

02:05:57.000 So, which billionaires have talked about their bunkers?

02:06:03.000 Most of them.

02:06:04.000 They'd be wise not to.

02:06:06.000 Zuckerberg.

02:06:07.000 Zuck has talked about his bunker.

02:06:09.000 Did he say where it is?

02:06:10.000 In Hawaii.

02:06:11.000 Which is a terrible idea.

02:06:13.000 If that's your real bunker, why would you tell anyone?

02:06:16.000 That makes me think it's a decoy, and there's a real one somewhere else.

02:06:20.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:06:22.000 And then what about...

02:06:23.000 What is this?

02:06:25.000 It's a terrible idea.

02:06:26.000 Isaiah 219.

02:06:27.000 And people shall enter the caves of the rocks and the holes of the ground.

02:06:30.000 From before the terror of the Lord, Well...

02:06:52.000 So as the powerful elites and the kings start building deep underground bunkers, does this mean that the end of days is near?

02:06:58.000 Well, no, maybe, but...

02:07:02.000 People have always thought the end of days were going to happen in their time.

02:07:05.000 It's been like since a decade after Christ died, they were like, oh, these are the end of days.

02:07:14.000 And people have always assumed that.

02:07:15.000 So I don't know that it's actually more likely that it's going to be now.

02:07:21.000 But at the same time, you know, they're building underground bunkers.

02:07:27.000 I don't know.

02:07:28.000 Go ahead.

02:07:29.000 Oh, the Book of Revelation, it's unclear if they wanted to have it put in the Bible originally, where there were a series of religious debates at the time where it only barely got through.

02:07:39.000 And so people have been interpreting the Book of Revelation for thousands of years, and the world has yet to have ended.

02:07:48.000 There are multiple crises, but it keeps going.

02:07:51.000 Life always finds a way.

02:07:55.000 What do you think, Mary?

02:07:57.000 Do you think the...

02:07:58.000 End times are nigh?

02:08:00.000 How nigh are you talking about, though?

02:08:02.000 Depends how nigh we're talking.

02:08:05.000 In the next 50 years?

02:08:07.000 In your lifetime?

02:08:09.000 No.

02:08:10.000 No?

02:08:11.000 I guess if I had to guess, my great-grandchildren will live through it.

02:08:19.000 That's what I think.

02:08:21.000 How old are you?

02:08:22.000 23. Do you think that politically things are happening?

02:08:27.000 Yes.

02:08:29.000 So you're not among...

02:08:31.000 Okay, there's allegedly this developmental disability in Gen Z where they think that nothing ever happens.

02:08:39.000 I have no idea about it.

02:08:41.000 Yeah, what I mean by that is, for me, as a millennial growing up in an actual period where little was happening, the 90s largely, I know stuff happened, you know?

02:08:52.000 I don't know, what was there, like Kosovo and shit?

02:08:54.000 And the Gulf, the first Gulf War?

02:08:57.000 But...

02:08:58.000 For a long period, it was like a lot of nothing until the 2000s when the Gore-Bush stuff happened.

02:09:03.000 But Gen Z has been entrenched their whole lives in just crazy shit happening all the time, relatively.

02:09:11.000 That's what it is.

02:09:12.000 Yeah, you're like, nothing's happening.

02:09:13.000 It's desensitization over time.

02:09:15.000 And even when something objectively happens, it never feels like anything is happening.

02:09:21.000 I guess the only time I felt like something was happening was the lockdown.

02:09:25.000 What about Jan 6?

02:09:27.000 That was not anything.

02:09:29.000 Nothing was happening.

02:09:30.000 Bro, Jan 6 was fucking crazy on the day of.

02:09:34.000 It was one of the biggest shows we've ever had because the news reports that were coming out on January 6 were fucking insane.

02:09:40.000 Tear gas fired off in the rotunda.

02:09:42.000 What became of it was crazy, but I feel like even at the time I knew that it was being misrepresented.

02:09:49.000 Dude, day of January 6th, I'm sitting in, you know, the castle, working on news, and when this stuff is trickling in, and you only have partial information, it's fucking insane.

02:10:00.000 I remember when all these big tweets were posting in caps, tear gas fired in the rotunda.

02:10:05.000 Fucking Elijah Schaefer was tweeting, the revolutionaries have breached the Capitol, they're storming this room, and he's talking constantly about revolutionaries.

02:10:12.000 Photos are coming up of people going through emails on computers.

02:10:15.000 Dude, this day was crazy.

02:10:17.000 Videos popped up saying they've breached the doors.

02:10:20.000 And then a video pops up where the door comes open and people start walking in.

02:10:23.000 After the fact, with all is said and done, we're like, oh, largely people rummaged through things.

02:10:30.000 Most people did nothing.

02:10:31.000 Yeah, we're kind of over it.

02:10:32.000 But that day, when it was like, was it one something?

02:10:37.000 Tweets started popping up in all caps.

02:10:39.000 Rioters have just breached the Capitol.

02:10:41.000 It's like, holy fuck, what?

02:10:43.000 And then like...

02:10:44.000 The videos that were coming from people I knew on social media where you can see cops fighting people, you had no idea what the end result was going to be.

02:10:51.000 Now we look back on it and say, nothing ended up happening.

02:10:55.000 At the time, though, when you get word that riders have breached the Capitol, it's a holy fuck moment.

02:11:00.000 And then when you hear police are firing tear gas in the Capitol rotunda, it's like, holy fuck!

02:11:05.000 Did you have a sense that it might be possible that Joe Biden would not be the president?

02:11:14.000 On January 6th?

02:11:15.000 When that was going down, did you think that this might mean...

02:11:19.000 It was a non-zero chance.

02:11:22.000 Really?

02:11:23.000 Yes, because the Trump admin had been lining this up that they were going to challenge the electoral votes from states that were in dispute and send them back pending adjudication.

02:11:33.000 But Mike Pence said no.

02:11:35.000 Mike Pence was supposed to be like, look, Pennsylvania is an adjudication, so I can't count this vote.

02:11:43.000 There's pending lawsuits.

02:11:45.000 But instead he goes, I didn't get involved.

02:11:47.000 Fuck that.

02:11:48.000 Yeah, it was my sense that it was...

02:11:51.000 48 states were suing each other.

02:11:53.000 Yeah, but I understand that.

02:11:55.000 But it was still my sense that there wasn't anything that was going to prevent...

02:12:01.000 Joe Biden from being certified.

02:12:03.000 I really didn't think...

02:12:04.000 On January 6th?

02:12:05.000 Yeah, I didn't think anything was going to...

02:12:07.000 I think based on all of the news we had after the election in 2020, what with the lawsuits and the electoral challenges, there was no certainty that was the case.

02:12:17.000 Yeah, I didn't...

02:12:19.000 Although I'm fairly certain I said he most likely is going to be the president and we're not going to get Trump to overturn anything, there still is the possibility these lawsuits go through.

02:12:27.000 And I had done numerous stories talking about the legal challenge they were presenting up until January 6th.

02:12:33.000 Yeah.

02:12:33.000 But then you hear that there's a thousand people at the front of the Capitol fighting cops, tear gases being fired off, and they're like storming their way in.

02:12:42.000 Pictures of people climbing the walls.

02:12:44.000 We did not know where that was going to go.

02:12:46.000 I mean, I was live tweeting the whole thing.

02:12:48.000 I was shitposting my way through the revolution, but I genuinely didn't think that there was anything that was going to come of it.

02:12:59.000 I was like, the establishment is going to make sure that Joe Biden actually gets the...

02:13:04.000 Sure, sure.

02:13:05.000 That's not the point.

02:13:06.000 The point is that the reason why live streams of riots do so well, but videos of riots don't...

02:13:13.000 It's because people are sitting there not knowing how this will turn out and you get an anxiety from it.

02:13:19.000 So yeah, January 6th was a fucking happening for sure.

02:13:21.000 It just turned out to be a riot that resulted in very little.

02:13:25.000 They cleared it and everyone wandered off.

02:13:27.000 But that day, who knows?

02:13:28.000 We've never seen that before.

02:13:31.000 That was freaky.

02:13:33.000 Sorry, real quick.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - May 02, 2025

Liberal Media CAUGHT In BOGUS LEAK, Trump DID NOT Fire Mike Waltz, HE PROMOTED HIM | Timcast IRL

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