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00:01:22.000 All right, so welcome everybody to Timcast.

00:01:25.000 I am your guest host today, Brick Suit.

00:01:28.000 It's kind of a slow Friday, and I'm filling in because it's the holidays and people are out of town.

00:01:34.000 But we do have some stories for you today.

00:01:36.000 The top three that we'll be talking about are the rent freeze in New York.

00:01:40.000 Mandami up to some tricks.

00:01:42.000 Is it a war on the landlords? 0.94

00:01:43.000 We'll be discussing that.

00:01:45.000 We're also going to talk about everybody's favorite felon and his mustache, Mike Bolton.

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00:04:29.000 So, our first story is the rent freeze.

00:04:32.000 Now, I'll wait for that to get pulled up there.

00:04:34.000 So, Mandami has, as you know, promised people in New York.

00:04:39.000 Everything he can think of to get their votes.

00:04:42.000 And now he's trying to deliver on it.

00:04:43.000 So, this out of Fox Business, Mandami celebrates rent freeze for stabilized housing as board member quits blasting the vote process.

00:04:53.000 And it says a board member who resigned Thursday asserted this year's RGB order was decided last year on the campaign trail.

00:05:00.000 Now, a lot of people are saying that this is really just basically the opening shot on the war against landlords in New York, because what they're going to do is try and freeze all these rents.

00:05:13.000 And as expenses for property maintenance go up, landlords are unable to maintain their properties as easily as they're able to.

00:05:22.000 And we all know that things break down, especially if you have an older building where the subsystems are going to need to be replaced.

00:05:28.000 And when that happens, it's not inexpensive. 0.99

00:05:32.000 You might have a boiler system, you might have, you've got not just your heating, but all your plumbing and everything like that in these brownstones that needs to be replaced occasionally. 1.00

00:05:41.000 And it's just hard to do that. 1.00

00:05:43.000 On stabilized rent when the costs themselves that are incurred to you are not stabilized.

00:05:50.000 How does it work, rent stabilization?

00:05:52.000 Does it go up like 3% incrementally every year?

00:05:54.000 I used to have it in California, I remember as a tenant, and I thought it was awesome.

00:05:58.000 I don't know the specifics of how it's working in New York, but generally that's exactly what it is.

00:06:02.000 There's the board that sets what the allowable increase is each year.

00:06:08.000 And then there are also things like when a tenant leaves, you cannot raise the rent more than a certain amount.

00:06:14.000 But basically, with Mandami, Making this one of his primary issues, forcing it's really a grab of private property.

00:06:27.000 It really is in some ways.

00:06:29.000 You're a landlord, you own the building, you want to rent it out to people, you've got to vet people.

00:06:33.000 That's difficult enough.

00:06:34.000 We see stories about squatters all the time, right?

00:06:38.000 So there's a lot of pressure on you as a landlord because your margins aren't always that high.

00:06:45.000 And if you, let's say, you're a small landlord, you only have a certain number of units, you can't afford to have.

00:06:51.000 People squatting in those units or nobody in them because that's going to affect your profitability.

00:06:56.000 And everybody should be able to, if they've got the private property, they own the building, they should be able to reap some of the rewards here.

00:07:03.000 And what you're seeing though is New York saying, yes, you own the building, but you can only earn this much off of it.

00:07:10.000 And then if they set that floor too low and the costs go up, you could actually lose money on it.

00:07:15.000 And that's being decided by New York City.

00:07:18.000 And a couple of months ago, weeks ago, I believe it's called the Fix the City Initiative, where he said the city will take over.

00:07:25.000 Ownership of severely distressed properties to hold them accountable.

00:07:28.000 So, this is the thing if they can't fix the buildings because they're getting no profit, no money on these buildings, then the city's going to take over the buildings and take over ownership of them.

00:07:36.000 So, like you're saying, it's a land grab.

00:07:36.000 Right.

00:07:37.000 Well, sure, but it's also a demonization of capitalism.

00:07:40.000 This is the start of it, right?

00:07:41.000 By being like, okay, yeah, it's yours, but not really.

00:07:44.000 We're going to tell you what to do with it.

00:07:45.000 This is how he's starting to try to bring in that socialism that he always says he wants to bring in free everything and socialized programs.

00:07:52.000 And so, the first thing to do is to attack a private business or somebody that owns a house, their private property.

00:07:59.000 So, by targeting a landlord, and I have a great landlord, I will just say, like, I know a lot of people have problems with landlords.

00:08:04.000 I love my landlord.

00:08:05.000 I know a lot of people will say, oh, but landlords, they're so selfish and all that.

00:08:09.000 But you have to remember they're paying for property taxes.

00:08:12.000 They have to pay for if something goes wrong, if something breaks, it's money that they have to put away just in case.

00:08:18.000 But Mamdani's basically trying to make them all look greedy and like they're terrible people.

00:08:22.000 And by doing that, he makes every capitalist in their mind look the same exact thing.

00:08:26.000 Well, he's technically taking their jobs away.

00:08:28.000 It's like you own a Building or you have a place that you're renting to somebody, that's your income.

00:08:33.000 So he's saying you have to keep spending money to maintain this because you can only make this much.

00:08:38.000 This is what he's doing.

00:08:38.000 That's so dirty.

00:08:39.000 He's not taking their jobs away.

00:08:40.000 He's going to make the conditions so uncomfortable that the people just willingly quit.

00:08:45.000 And then there's no blowback on him.

00:08:45.000 Right.

00:08:48.000 I didn't, you know, listen, man, we just did rent control.

00:08:50.000 It's their fault.

00:08:51.000 They didn't want to play ball.

00:08:52.000 But this is just so rich to me coming that the governor of New York just, what, like less than a year ago was pleading with all the rich people that fled to Florida.

00:09:01.000 Like, please come back.

00:09:02.000 And then you've got the city owned grocery stores.

00:09:05.000 Where's that money coming from?

00:09:07.000 There's a budget deficit that Mamdani was just pleading that was fighting with the governor of New York over.

00:09:13.000 So there's all these proposals and all these policies that he had to make on the campaign trail that he's now fulfilling that's just going to lead to the destruction of New York.

00:09:22.000 Because when the big money leaves, that's when the problems come back.

00:09:26.000 And it's leaving.

00:09:27.000 Oh, 100% it's leaving.

00:09:29.000 I mean, you're going to see, they joked about all the poop over the winter.

00:09:33.000 No one could clean up the poop.

00:09:34.000 The snow removal was a disaster in New York.

00:09:37.000 And these are just the immediate impacts.

00:09:38.000 The snow removal, where you needed an ID.

00:09:42.000 To be removing snow for the city, you need to be able to present them with identification.

00:09:46.000 However, if you were just voting, no ID needed.

00:09:49.000 You could shovel snow, need an ID, vote no.

00:09:52.000 And what Raymond, what you were saying though about the buildings that are vacant being seized, that's absolutely true.

00:09:58.000 But guess again, who gets to control what buildings are declared inhospitable or unfit for habitation?

00:10:05.000 The city, exactly.

00:10:05.000 The city.

00:10:07.000 So they've got themselves in this loop where, oh, well, you're not upkeeping your building.

00:10:12.000 Well, we'll just say it's, you know, it can't be.

00:10:15.000 Inhabited will red tag it, whatever their color is.

00:10:17.000 Red would be appropriate given that they're communists and socialists up there.

00:10:21.000 And then no one can live in it.

00:10:22.000 And then we're going to go ahead and seize it.

00:10:23.000 The liberals just took a victory lap, too.

00:10:25.000 Like last week, dunking on Trump over his comments on inflation.

00:10:29.000 And a lot of the anti Trump Republicans right now are also saying, you know, the inflation is just as bad as it was under Biden.

00:10:38.000 So you take all of that, they know inflation is a problem, yet they're going to freeze the rent.

00:10:41.000 Like it's just going to make everything worse.

00:10:44.000 Like that's rent prices go up.

00:10:45.000 Because of inflation.

00:10:47.000 It's what the landlords need to do to continue to make it, let alone profitability, just covering expenses, right?

00:10:54.000 Keeping the lights on, maintenance, hiring a guy to do maintenance, you know, if they've, what do they call it, a super or whatever.

00:11:01.000 So this problem is just going to get worse.

00:11:03.000 I mean, but I will say this is a, you know, after the primaries last week, this is just kind of a testament to how popular Mom Dhani and the new kind of Democrat socialists are becoming in these super blue areas. 0.98

00:11:16.000 They don't care or they're ignorant. 0.74

00:11:18.000 But they are smiling the whole way. 0.98

00:11:21.000 It seems like the dam is breaking with inflation.

00:11:25.000 Since 2008, we bailed out Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, spent trillions, then COVID, another $5 trillion, the escalating debt, compound inflation that we're spending a trillion a year, whatever.

00:11:38.000 So it's like they're pulling their finger out of one crack to stick it into another crack, and everyone's cheering.

00:11:45.000 So instead of now protecting the landlords, they're going to protect the renters for a little while, for two years, and all the renters are cheering.

00:11:51.000 Then later, they're going to pull that finger out.

00:11:53.000 Let them suffer again and put it back in.

00:11:54.000 Like in two years, when this lapses, the rents might go up by 30% across the board.

00:12:01.000 You have no idea what could happen.

00:12:02.000 They're not thinking about that.

00:12:03.000 The leftists don't think about that.

00:12:04.000 They think about the here and now, what's going to benefit me right now.

00:12:07.000 Okay, this rent freeze is going to benefit me now.

00:12:09.000 I don't care what happens in two years because I want to feel good now.

00:12:12.000 They want that instant gratification of not paying their rent or not having to pay more rent, I should say, or not paying their rent.

00:12:17.000 But that's, I think that's what they're thinking about.

00:12:17.000 Who knows?

00:12:20.000 Whereas people like us in this room might be like, well, in two years, that's really going to suck.

00:12:24.000 They're not thinking, I'll come.

00:12:25.000 It's like when they mailed out $1,300 checks or when everybody promises to get you a $1,000 check from the government.

00:12:30.000 That's what this is.

00:12:31.000 Well, it's like these apartments are not going to get better if nobody's paying into them.

00:12:35.000 No, of course not.

00:12:36.000 And then the city is going to come in and be like, oh, we'll take care of it.

00:12:39.000 But we're not going to live in a condo apartment.

00:12:41.000 Put yourself in the shoes of a person who owns a building that's renting it out.

00:12:45.000 Are you going to invest in your building?

00:12:47.000 And are you going to be sinking money in there for upkeep or preventative maintenance?

00:12:47.000 No.

00:12:52.000 Is that anything you're going to want to do?

00:12:54.000 No, you're not going to want to do it.

00:12:55.000 And what you're saying, you know, not only are they not.

00:12:58.000 Thinking about the here and now, they're not even thinking about the semantics, they're not even thinking about the philosophy of what they're doing.

00:13:04.000 It's just take.

00:13:05.000 And, you know, Mandami is, I think, really, he's in the honeymoon phase right now.

00:13:10.000 And, you know, there's another city on the other coast called Los Angeles who is trying to have their own female Mandami, Nithya Raman, get elected.

00:13:18.000 And, you know, New York is not far enough down the road to failure yet that that's going to prevent her from winning in Los Angeles. 0.71

00:13:25.000 I think she has a legitimate chance. 0.98

00:13:27.000 I mean, people hate Karen, they hate Bass as mayor.

00:13:29.000 I mean, if it's between Bass and anyone else, you're going to choose anyone else because Bass was, I mean, the Palisades fire was so devastating.

00:13:36.000 And that's so fresh in people's minds.

00:13:38.000 Right.

00:13:39.000 So, I mean, I agree with you.

00:13:40.000 I think now that she got past the jungle primary, she's got her chances are very good.

00:13:45.000 And go ahead.

00:13:47.000 I was going to say, like, if you told anybody a year ago that they're going to be basically a socialist mayor in New York City and he's going to be doing these and these are going to be the pro, nobody would believe you.

00:13:59.000 But now it's happening for the first time.

00:14:01.000 We're really starting to see him actually get some of the stuff.

00:14:03.000 He was successful in endorsing a slate of political candidates and they won.

00:14:08.000 And so, really, we're in that honeymoon stage where he's got.

00:14:12.000 He's calling some shots and making some things happen.

00:14:14.000 But I think down the road, as we get a year from now, we're not going to see this success in there.

00:14:19.000 And we're going to see people leaving New York.

00:14:22.000 And are they going to go to Florida?

00:14:23.000 Are they going to go to Texas?

00:14:24.000 They're going to go somewhere.

00:14:25.000 I hope they don't go to Texas.

00:14:27.000 I mean, he also did just get 2 million households to vote for him in his people in the next couple of years.

00:14:32.000 Because if they don't got to pay for rent, they're like, hey, I like this guy.

00:14:35.000 Here's what anyone that's about meritocracy, anyone that's built themselves up and created a successful business, they're going to leave.

00:14:41.000 They're going to look for, even if it's not to Texas or Florida.

00:14:44.000 They're going to go to the suburbs of New York, maybe Pennsylvania, right?

00:14:47.000 And so all you're going to have left is people that are beholden to the government that need handouts. 1.00

00:14:53.000 And when you're a Mamdani type figure and you keep promising free buses, well, yeah, you're going to get those people. 0.99

00:14:58.000 Because what are the other options? 1.00

00:15:00.000 Vote for the guy that says you got to work hard for yourself?

00:15:03.000 No, I was just getting free stuff from the last guy.

00:15:06.000 So it's kind of like this is we talk about this so much over the years on this show about like kind of like the cycle of socialism or communism.

00:15:14.000 How it just only creates more communism, more destruction, more dysfunction, and more chaos.

00:15:19.000 It hardly makes sense to me, though, that like we just, I thought we had like made some strides in the right direction, but I guess the left has doubled down.

00:15:28.000 Well, it's like a rubber band or a balancing act because if you go hyper capitalist, you end up with corporatocracy where the corporations control and govern the world.

00:15:36.000 But if you go hyper communist, then, you know, small groups control everything and people are serfs basically.

00:15:42.000 So, like, the government bought 10% of Intel.

00:15:45.000 It bought Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac.

00:15:46.000 It's basically that's very communistic to centralize.

00:15:48.000 And Thomas Massey was just tweeting this out yesterday.

00:15:51.000 Governments bought like six different private companies, which is like it's balancing against corporate talk.

00:15:57.000 So there is a balance.

00:15:58.000 But here's the thing, Ian.

00:16:00.000 You've got this like the public private partnerships that a lot of governments will tout and brag about.

00:16:05.000 Well, that is socialist in its nature, right?

00:16:08.000 You've got a government subsidizing, you know, you got tax money subsidizing a private enterprise doing whatever they're doing.

00:16:15.000 But the left calls that fascism.

00:16:17.000 The left calls that Hitler the most evil thing in the world.

00:16:21.000 So, right now, we're talking about complete communism versus a pretty much like a semi socialist government.

00:16:27.000 We are socialist.

00:16:28.000 We have a bunch of handouts through Social Security, SNAP benefits, but the right and Trump is still labeled as what you're talking about.

00:16:38.000 I don't think we're there.

00:16:39.000 We do have a video actually to add some context to this whole story.

00:16:43.000 Let's play it real quick.

00:16:46.000 New York, the Independent Rent Guidelines Board just froze the rent.

00:16:50.000 That means if you're one of the more than 2 million New Yorkers who lives in a rent stabilized apartment, your rent's going to be frozen next year.

00:16:56.000 He's just got to slow down because he sounds like he has marbles in his mouth.

00:17:01.000 Okay, but why was that so slow?

00:17:02.000 It kind of seemed like a threat.

00:17:03.000 It was.

00:17:04.000 It was.

00:17:05.000 High blood pressure.

00:17:06.000 People love to dunk on the guy, but he's politically dangerous.

00:17:09.000 That guy's going to be president.

00:17:11.000 Unless he fails in New York in the next two years, he's going to be president.

00:17:14.000 Oh, my God.

00:17:15.000 He's way better than Gavin.

00:17:16.000 I don't know about president.

00:17:18.000 I don't know about president, but I see Senate.

00:17:20.000 I see governor in his future.

00:17:22.000 The guy's got charisma.

00:17:24.000 He's able to sell you terrible ideas with a smile on his face. 1.00

00:17:28.000 Wait, isn't he born in Uganda? 0.98

00:17:30.000 I was going to say he's not a superstar.

00:17:32.000 No, he can't be president.

00:17:33.000 No, I don't think.

00:17:34.000 Last night I was like, wow, Mamdani.

00:17:36.000 I think he was born in Uganda.

00:17:37.000 I know he's only been a citizen for approximately eight years. 0.99

00:17:41.000 I don't think he's, you know, but he's AOC by proxy.

00:17:45.000 Do you think that stops?

00:17:47.000 Like, yeah, the right, we play by the Constitution.

00:17:50.000 We play by the rules.

00:17:51.000 Yeah, you got to be an American born to run for president.

00:17:53.000 You think this left is going to let that stop them?

00:17:55.000 No, you.

00:17:56.000 If Mamdani's that guy, they're going to put Mamdani in. 0.99

00:17:59.000 No, he wasn't born in the U.S. 0.98

00:17:59.000 No, they don't play by the rules. 0.98

00:18:00.000 He can't be president.

00:18:01.000 That doesn't mean they're not going to try to change that before.

00:18:04.000 Woman Schenck ran for president.

00:18:05.000 Yeah, but they didn't let him, though. 0.93

00:18:06.000 Yeah, but then Elon Musk will run against it.

00:18:08.000 If they try and it'll be Elon versus Mondana.

00:18:10.000 Elon will trounce him.

00:18:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:12.000 If they set that price.

00:18:12.000 They will try.

00:18:13.000 That's what they do.

00:18:14.000 And there's one other thing.

00:18:15.000 I mean, nobody really has a lot of sympathy for landlords typically, but if you think about what you're talking about, they're all going to be leaving for somewhere else.

00:18:23.000 They're getting fair market value of their investments stolen because you're not going to be able to sell your apartment building in New York City at anywhere near what the price that you could get for it last year because who's going to buy into that knowing that these rents are stabilized and not even being sure what's going to happen down the road?

00:18:40.000 Two years from now, three years from now.

00:18:42.000 Because owning an apartment building is kind of like an investment where you've got cash flow coming to you each month and the value of your building is also increasing.

00:18:53.000 So you're making money on that end as well.

00:18:56.000 But you do that only as long as you can foresee what the market conditions will be.

00:19:01.000 And Mandami and the socialists in New York are making that type of prognostication much more difficult.

00:19:08.000 It's a lot harder now, I think, in New York City to look ahead and say, This is a great investment because over five years, this is where I'll be.

00:19:15.000 Because you got no idea what they're going to do.

00:19:17.000 You have no idea what they're going to foist.

00:19:19.000 Well, I mean, look at the Knicks parade and all the celebrations and watch parties you were having, right?

00:19:25.000 If you're like all these policies aside, New York is now the place where your sports team wins and they're going to destroy.

00:19:32.000 Yeah, that was wild.

00:19:34.000 People would be like, riots have happened for decades after sports wins.

00:19:34.000 And I get it.

00:19:38.000 I get it.

00:19:39.000 But New York City, like, you pair that with all these other things, being soft on crime.

00:19:44.000 The rent freeze, higher taxes, you know, an open attack from the party, the ruling party on billionaires.

00:19:51.000 You know, billionaires, not that much in 2026.

00:19:55.000 Like, it's not that crazy anymore.

00:19:57.000 How does this rent freeze actually work?

00:19:59.000 Does he like tell everyone who lives in a building, like, just present this piece of paper from me that says you don't have to pay rent?

00:20:07.000 They have to be designated as a rent controlled apartment, I believe.

00:20:10.000 And I was just looking into that actually.

00:20:11.000 I just don't get how that would work.

00:20:12.000 There's rent controlled and then there's like rent stabilized, which I guess are different things.

00:20:16.000 But together, they account for about 44%.

00:20:19.000 But if you're just talking about rent control, that's between 16,000 to 22,000 units.

00:20:24.000 So, what did that article say?

00:20:26.000 You still have to pay it.

00:20:26.000 The article said 2 million.

00:20:28.000 It's just frozen, meaning it's not going to go up.

00:20:30.000 Right.

00:20:30.000 So, if they're at $2,000 a month, it stays at $2,000.

00:20:34.000 I do remember during COVID, they actually paused rent for people that couldn't afford to pay.

00:20:40.000 Oh, did they?

00:20:41.000 It was wild.

00:20:43.000 I was like, wait a sec.

00:20:45.000 They just stopped income for people.

00:20:46.000 And then what Ian was saying, that was disastrous.

00:20:49.000 A lot of the inflation we're seeing today wore all those handouts we were given to people at COVID.

00:20:53.000 So, yes, you know, leftists will be like, you guys are fear mongering.

00:20:56.000 This is not going to happen.

00:20:57.000 Well, it's like, we'll just give it some time, right?

00:20:59.000 We're not going to see the effects of this overnight, but give it two years, three years.

00:21:04.000 If.

00:21:05.000 Yeah.

00:21:05.000 It looks like rent control in New York regularly is every two years, landlords can raise it by up to 7.5%.

00:21:13.000 But then now it's frozen.

00:21:14.000 They can't do that over this next two year period.

00:21:16.000 They won't see that.

00:21:16.000 Okay.

00:21:17.000 So it just means like there is not any more room for growth in their investment for the next two years.

00:21:22.000 One to two year, I think, is the claim.

00:21:23.000 I mean, it's crazy, too, because this is the most expensive real estate, arguably, in the planet, is New York City.

00:21:29.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:30.000 And so they've.

00:21:31.000 Don't have a lot of margin to wiggle.

00:21:34.000 The one thing I wanted to hit back on what you're saying is if you raise rent every year by 2%, well, that's a cost that sucks, but most people can find a way to pay that, right?

00:21:44.000 All right, we need to stop going out to dinner as much.

00:21:47.000 Maybe we don't take as many road trips.

00:21:49.000 You can find somewhere in your budget to make up for that 2%.

00:21:52.000 If in two years it drops 15%, 20%, 30%, where does that money come from if you're already strapped for cash?

00:21:58.000 If you're someone who is middle class working.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, you're going to create a massive homeless problem.

00:22:04.000 It's sort of why I'm not fully against rent freezing and rent control and rent stabilization because giving a landlord full control over raising the rent by 30% every year is insane.

00:22:16.000 No, the government does that.

00:22:17.000 Yeah, but in New York City, there's a market economy on that.

00:22:21.000 You can't just decide, as a unilateral action, as a one apartment owner, I'm going to raise my rents 30%.

00:22:28.000 Well, maybe you can if you're right against Central Park and the market will bear that type of cost increase.

00:22:35.000 In New York City, though, It's a little bit different because people have other options to rent.

00:22:40.000 So I agree with you that in a situation where the public is being victimized by landlords, rent control and rent stabilization may have made sense originally.

00:22:52.000 I completely agree with you on that.

00:22:54.000 But I don't think that that's really the case so much.

00:22:58.000 That's not the rationale of what's happening now.

00:23:00.000 There's a reason.

00:23:01.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:23:02.000 And there's a reason that those TikToks of the super tiny apartments that are the size of a closet are $1,500 a month and people are still renting them.

00:23:10.000 Right, the market that's the market rate, and people are willing to pay to move to New York for the next two years.

00:23:16.000 I lived in a New York closet for two years.

00:23:19.000 How much was the rent?

00:23:20.000 $600 a month.

00:23:21.000 And one was $1,200, and I split it with another guy who slept in the bedroom, and I slept in the closet.

00:23:27.000 There was construction across the street every morning.

00:23:29.000 I'd be up at 7 a.m. with dang.

00:23:31.000 Oh, that's right, man.

00:23:32.000 But it was New York, it was New York, and it was the energy of the city at that time, and anything was possible with work, and you had almost unlimited possibilities.

00:23:41.000 It was still the city that never sleeps.

00:23:43.000 It was with every single one.

00:23:44.000 I mean, like the clubs were fantastic.

00:23:47.000 It was 9 11 happened right after I moved there, so I got to work at Ground Zero. 0.98

00:23:50.000 It was spectacular. 0.99

00:23:52.000 I don't know if that was spectacular.

00:23:54.000 It was a spectacle to see the building just like that.

00:23:57.000 Yes, okay. 1.00

00:23:57.000 Yeah, I was like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:23:58.000 That may have been a spectacle, but I don't know about spectacular. 0.99

00:24:01.000 I'd never seen a building like that.

00:24:01.000 It would be.

00:24:03.000 I didn't mean to derail your.

00:24:04.000 It's all right, but I'm just saying, I think that 20, 30 years ago, people living in New York, moving to New York, looked at it as an opportunity to hustle.

00:24:16.000 To outwork everybody else, to raise your level on the corporate ladder, or maybe you were in one of the industries that are centered in New York City.

00:24:24.000 You were in fashion, you were in modeling, you were in photography, you were in art.

00:24:28.000 I mean, all of that was in New York City.

00:24:30.000 And I don't know the extent that New York actually has that.

00:24:34.000 They still have all that, but is it as large as it used to be?

00:24:37.000 No.

00:24:38.000 Are the fashion houses as large as they used to be?

00:24:40.000 Well, I think the internet.

00:24:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:43.000 And so I don't know that.

00:24:44.000 I think that people now are like, I'm going to move to New York City, and it's just, I'm just there for the vibe.

00:24:49.000 I'm just there for the vibe.

00:24:50.000 I'm going to see if I attach myself to a startup.

00:24:52.000 I'm going to do gig economy.

00:24:53.000 I'm going to do a little of this.

00:24:54.000 I'm going to do a little of that.

00:24:56.000 Maybe I'm going to become like a DEI officer for a major bank and then get fired when I steal a trash can.

00:25:02.000 I mean, that's what people are doing now in New York City.

00:25:04.000 And I don't know if you guys saw that story.

00:25:06.000 Oh, totally.

00:25:07.000 I mean, that's pretty awesome to me.

00:25:07.000 That's an epic one.

00:25:09.000 I'm surprised she could carry it. 1.00

00:25:10.000 Just steal a Nick's trash can and get fired from your 200K per year job. 1.00

00:25:10.000 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

00:25:16.000 And your name's all out there for the next time you apply for anything.

00:25:19.000 This is so hysterical.

00:25:21.000 Killing is a moral crime.

00:25:22.000 Like a day or two after that video went viral of her stealing it, the Nick's like came out with the city and was like, oh, you can actually buy your own themed trash can. 0.96

00:25:29.000 So she just had to wait a day or two.

00:25:31.000 That wasn't the point, though, you know.

00:25:35.000 That is classic. 0.90

00:25:36.000 But, you know, New York, though, this is like more of like the Mamdani voting base because there was a report and it's like 33, 35% of people are still living at home. 0.56

00:25:45.000 That means 33, 35% of people, young Gen Z, have not taken that step of independence to really do what you're talking about.

00:25:53.000 Like, get out there and, you know, the world is what you make it.

00:25:56.000 They're not doing that.

00:25:57.000 They want six people in a bedroom.

00:25:59.000 They want the little kumbaya list to get in a drum circle and sing songs and it, This is just the start.

00:26:04.000 You say 25 to 30% live at home.

00:26:06.000 Is that 35, 33%?

00:26:08.000 Is that Americans across the country?

00:26:10.000 I think it's Gen Z.

00:26:11.000 It's the exact range across the country.

00:26:14.000 Young adults.

00:26:14.000 I don't know why.

00:26:15.000 I have seen so many videos on YouTube of like 30 year old dudes in their parents' basement, like, I can't get a job.

00:26:22.000 Life is meaningless.

00:26:23.000 Prova. 0.99

00:26:24.000 In Gen Z, I guess.

00:26:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:27.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:26:29.000 And then the lie that they're selling these people that are aimless and lost is don't worry.

00:26:35.000 Free, free, free, free, I don't know when you feel.

00:26:49.000 What does it mean to be happy?

00:26:54.000 Yeah, like it's a dopamine kick.

00:27:03.000 They'll be like, here's another $15.

00:27:10.000 And you're like, I'm happy for a minute.

00:27:15.000 Speaking of someone who is not happy, John Bolton, former Trump national security advisor, pleads guilty in classified documents case.

00:27:25.000 Now, as I recall, he was John Bolton, former national security advisor to President Trump, who became a staunch critic.

00:27:34.000 There are a few of those who have kind of turncoated, pleaded guilty Friday for mishandling classified information.

00:27:41.000 Bolton wearing a dark suit stood before the U.S. District Judge Theodore.

00:27:45.000 I'm not going to try and pronounce that name. 0.51

00:27:46.000 Looks like Chuang.

00:27:48.000 I'm not sure about it. 0.94

00:27:50.000 I'm sure this is what I'm afraid of now because I've been very critical of Candace Owens for not being able to pronounce common words like debacle and saying debacle.

00:27:59.000 I want everybody to know architecture. 1.00

00:28:03.000 Yeah, there's so many things that she just butchers.

00:28:06.000 And you hear, I cannot pronounce this name, and people are going to assail me like, see?

00:28:11.000 You can't talk either.

00:28:13.000 That's not a common one.

00:28:15.000 I've got to sound like a speak functionality.

00:28:17.000 Exactly.

00:28:18.000 I'm not sure.

00:28:19.000 I don't know. 0.96

00:28:20.000 Take a stab. 0.99

00:28:21.000 He has pled guilty. 0.96

00:28:22.000 He says he's sorry for it.

00:28:25.000 And, you know, this is just something he thought he could get away with.

00:28:28.000 And clearly, I, you know, although I would imagine he was looking at his book deal.

00:28:34.000 He's looking like, I'm going to take this stuff.

00:28:36.000 I'm going to write a book.

00:28:37.000 I'm going to be the latest one who's a conservative or ostensibly a conservative.

00:28:42.000 To cash in by stabbing President Trump in the back, metaphorically, of course.

00:28:48.000 And I believe that's what he was doing.

00:28:50.000 I mean, to take a plea, you know, everyone, whenever these cases have been coming up recently, everyone's like, it's politically motivated.

00:28:56.000 This is Trump's revenge.

00:28:58.000 If that were true, people would actually be going and getting a jury trial.

00:29:02.000 They wouldn't be taking a plea deal.

00:29:05.000 And, you know, Gemini says up to five years in prison is facing and a $2.25 million fine.

00:29:11.000 Now, I don't know about you guys.

00:29:13.000 I don't think he's going to see a day behind bars.

00:29:15.000 Oh, I don't think so.

00:29:16.000 Trump's going to pardon him?

00:29:17.000 No, no.

00:29:18.000 He's going to get slapped on the wrist.

00:29:19.000 This is what happens.

00:29:20.000 It's all show.

00:29:21.000 What do you do?

00:29:21.000 Well, no, it's a pretty substantial fine.

00:29:24.000 It is a substantial fine.

00:29:26.000 And he loses his government benefits in retirement.

00:29:28.000 That'd be huge.

00:29:29.000 So, you know, so, I mean, that's.

00:29:32.000 That's going to include medical coverage.

00:29:32.000 Two points.

00:29:34.000 Yeah.

00:29:35.000 Which, I mean, so it's.

00:29:35.000 I mean, and he's getting.

00:29:36.000 I mean, I agree he's not going to be.

00:29:38.000 He's unlikely to be incarcerated, and that's why he made the plea.

00:29:42.000 But he's not getting off scot free.

00:29:44.000 He says he's got to pay half of this within five days of his sentencing.

00:29:47.000 Wow.

00:29:48.000 That's horrible.

00:29:49.000 He's got to have money.

00:29:50.000 I mean, he's got to have money in the bank.

00:29:51.000 Sure.

00:29:51.000 In answer to your question, he had mishandling and dissemination of classified.

00:29:56.000 Diary like notes and sense of records to his family members to prepare his memoir.

00:30:01.000 Classified docs case.

00:30:02.000 They accused Trump of.

00:30:04.000 And Biden.

00:30:04.000 I know.

00:30:05.000 They're trying to get Biden on it for having paper in his garage.

00:30:08.000 We talked last week about what a joke classification can be where people email each other about getting lunch in the government, but it'll be literally classified like, dude, Biden is Aladdin from the government.

00:30:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:19.000 Two L's and two D's.

00:30:20.000 So I find disgust in the bureaucratic persecution of Trump, of Bolton.

00:30:27.000 Of uh, Comey, of Biden, it's just like grotesque because it could happen to any one of us for the most reason of sending an email that had some data in it that wasn't supposed to be there, and you accidentally forwarded it to four people, and you could charge four felonies for one thing.

00:30:41.000 It's like, sorry, please continue.

00:30:43.000 These aren't lunch orders, though.

00:30:46.000 This is all he was the, these are all like highly classified, highly confidential, like war plans and stuff.

00:30:52.000 Oh, well, I mean, this were his personal diary and the role that he was in.

00:30:56.000 That's likely what those notes were.

00:30:58.000 I really doubt.

00:30:59.000 That it was, hey, we're going to get Chipotle.

00:31:02.000 Trump likes to get extra chicken on his burrito.

00:31:05.000 Are they releasing what was leaked?

00:31:07.000 No, the kids do that.

00:31:09.000 I wonder what it was.

00:31:09.000 It's classified.

00:31:11.000 That's being indicted by a grand jury, but not being able to know.

00:31:15.000 So the jury saw?

00:31:16.000 Yeah.

00:31:16.000 During the case, the jury, or he pleaded before he didn't win?

00:31:19.000 A lot of people, when Biden was accused of classified docs, would be like, they're not, yes, they're classified, but they're not actually dangerous. 0.99

00:31:27.000 And that's bullshit. 0.92

00:31:28.000 Because just like the congressional stock trading ban, I'm going to loop this all together. 0.99

00:31:32.000 You don't want people with privilege and certain knowledge to be able to profit in this country.

00:31:36.000 We don't want that.

00:31:37.000 We don't want AOC that knows that a certain law is going to be passed and should make certain investments.

00:31:42.000 We don't want that.

00:31:42.000 It's the same for John Bolton in a potential book deal or tours or even potentially selling information to other actors.

00:31:49.000 We don't want that to happen.

00:31:51.000 And so, if you don't penalize us, if you don't actually go after these people, you incentivize other people to use their access to get rich off of it.

00:32:00.000 And that's something we don't want.

00:32:01.000 I'm thinking about Hillary Clinton's.

00:32:03.000 30,000 emails that she sent to her chief of staff and all these different Sidney Blumenthal's and like the names and the names of the people doing it.

00:32:12.000 Like, how far back do we go?

00:32:13.000 What's the statute of limitations on?

00:32:15.000 Well, there's a difference with her. 1.00

00:32:16.000 I mean, she had an email server in her bathroom at her house. 1.00

00:32:20.000 I mean, there was a total Hillary Clinton's case was just an entirely different thing.

00:32:26.000 Bolton was using his, you know, his, from his facilities at work, he was sending emails to people.

00:32:34.000 And including files that were, and there was another case where I think somebody was doing this and changing the titles to like recipes or something like that.

00:32:41.000 There's, I can't remember who that was.

00:32:43.000 I don't think it was Bolton because I doubt that he cooks.

00:32:45.000 They're saying he would send sensitive and often highly classified information to two family members via texts or AOL email.

00:32:54.000 There's also, he was reportedly hacked.

00:32:56.000 Like, this email was hacked by a suspected Iranian actor. 0.80

00:33:00.000 So it's like, this is what happens when you engage in those behaviors. 0.86

00:33:03.000 Like, even if it was, let's take your example.

00:33:06.000 Let's say it was just a lunch order, right? 0.98

00:33:10.000 Foreign actors, if they know where the president's getting his lunch from every day, that's a problem.

00:33:14.000 It's a problem that he's using AOL email. 0.85

00:33:16.000 To send you a pacifier.

00:33:17.000 That's the real crime.

00:33:19.000 And going back to Hillary Clinton, I mean, after her emails were compromised, there was a tremendous, how should we say this, a tremendous reduction in the amount of human intelligence sources that we had in China.

00:33:35.000 Basically, our agents working for us in China started disappearing.

00:33:40.000 Now, is there a correlation between that that's been publicly made?

00:33:44.000 No.

00:33:45.000 But there's definitely a lot of speculation that, in some ways, Hillary's leaks led to the exposure of our agents overseas.

00:33:54.000 So, even though it may seem innocuous, it can rise to levels of having actual repercussions.

00:34:01.000 Yeah, I wonder if some future. 1.00

00:34:04.000 I think Hillary's probably going to be okay, get off scot free. 0.61

00:34:07.000 She already has this far.

00:34:09.000 I don't know what else she could do to.

00:34:11.000 I am curious what the statute of limitations is on stuff like this.

00:34:15.000 Is there a statute of limitations on this stuff?

00:34:19.000 Disseminating government classified information.

00:34:21.000 Like, yeah, I actually have no idea if there's even a stat.

00:34:25.000 Like, what would that be?

00:34:27.000 Like, I genuinely.

00:34:28.000 So, I'm not saying this is a bad thing that they're nailing Bolton on this because I just don't want.

00:34:33.000 Part of me is like, good, I don't like that guy.

00:34:36.000 And like, I don't want it to be an emotional thing because that they can turn that around and use that on anybody at any time.

00:34:36.000 Finally.

00:34:41.000 They do it with Trump, right?

00:34:42.000 That's exactly what they do is they use the emotional argument.

00:34:44.000 But he's been such a bad person forever, starting all these wars and getting us involved overseas in all these wars for years and years and decades.

00:34:50.000 So, And yeah, and wanting to get us in the war.

00:34:53.000 And the argument you can make too, because like he deserves it.

00:34:57.000 One, I'm Gen Z, so like the John Bolton outrage doesn't really hit as home for me as it does others because Trump won was my first election I could vote in.

00:35:05.000 So, like this John Bolton drama, I was still so young.

00:35:09.000 But with Biden mishandling classified docs and Trump, well, they're the president.

00:35:13.000 Like they control what gets classified.

00:35:15.000 And really, it's up to them at the end of the day.

00:35:17.000 John Bolton's not the president, you know?

00:35:20.000 And so that's where I'm like, it is different than the other cases and statute of limitations for.

00:35:25.000 Something like this is about five years.

00:35:27.000 Yeah, that's what I read.

00:35:28.000 Really interesting.

00:35:29.000 Five years from the date of the offense.

00:35:30.000 They should make him cut his mustache as part of the penalty.

00:35:33.000 Oh, wow.

00:35:33.000 They should.

00:35:34.000 He should have to shave his mustache off.

00:35:36.000 It's pretty bad.

00:35:36.000 Shout out to a lot, though.

00:35:38.000 I know he's barely hanging on his car.

00:35:40.000 I know.

00:35:41.000 Our resident Bolton bro.

00:35:43.000 Did anyone break the news to him?

00:35:44.000 I don't think so.

00:35:45.000 Has anyone checked it out?

00:35:46.000 I'm sure he knows.

00:35:47.000 I'm sure there's like a bat signal that goes out to all the Bolton bros.

00:35:50.000 They have his group card going.

00:35:52.000 It's just a big, huge mustache on the searchlight.

00:35:54.000 We're not going to hear it. 0.97

00:35:55.000 Is that the bat signal? 0.95

00:35:56.000 No, it's the Bolton signal. 0.94

00:35:57.000 Yeah.

00:35:59.000 You know, Bolton's not been one of my favorite actors either.

00:36:02.000 I mean, he was, if you remember back to we had a reconnaissance drone that was shot down in the Gulf War in President Trump's first term, approximately, let's not, you know, let's be honest here.

00:36:15.000 It was an expensive drone.

00:36:17.000 All right.

00:36:17.000 So when I say drone, it's more likely to be categorized as an unmanned aerial platform, approximately $300 million, if memory serves me correctly, maybe a little bit more.

00:36:28.000 And Bolton wanted to go to war over it.

00:36:30.000 But that's why you have drones.

00:36:33.000 That's why you have them to, that's why you develop those remotely controlled platforms to gather intelligence so you don't have to send a pilot in harm's way.

00:36:42.000 Because when a pilot gets shot down, it creates a whole other thing.

00:36:46.000 And we saw that, unfortunately, recently with the pilots that were shot down in Iran and the subsequent, you know.

00:36:53.000 I mean, all the money it spent to just rescue them.

00:36:55.000 Correct.

00:36:56.000 Correct.

00:36:56.000 Thank God we did.

00:36:57.000 But like, it wasn't just 300 million then, then it's how much money are you spending on the rescue plan?

00:37:01.000 Right.

00:37:02.000 And that's why you've got drones.

00:37:03.000 You use them, you gather your intelligence.

00:37:06.000 And we had one shot down, and Bolton was like, They destroyed our drone.

00:37:09.000 Let's go to war.

00:37:10.000 Well, as our guest was saying a couple weeks ago, so he used to work in the Intel agency.

00:37:18.000 His name, what was his name?

00:37:19.000 He goes by Aladdin.

00:37:20.000 His name keeps coming up.

00:37:21.000 Aladdin.

00:37:22.000 He hears it every time, and then he clips it, and it'll be on Twitter.

00:37:25.000 I know, I know.

00:37:26.000 So he was explaining how, really, this plan for Iran, I mean, they were trying to kick this off. 0.54

00:37:32.000 For a while, we always say that, you know, with the moves that with Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria that were kind of circling the drain that is Iran.

00:37:40.000 Um, but he was saying, like, it's this plan was years delayed, so Bolton might have been beating the war drum because that was the plan, you know.

00:37:49.000 And Trump was in there and was like, we're not going to war with Iran, you know, things are different now, but we got to think back to 2019 when all of this was happening, you know.

00:37:58.000 Yeah, there was the nine plans, nine countries in 12 years.

00:38:02.000 I'm getting the numbers wrong, but they're like, we're going to go into Cuba, Iran.

00:38:06.000 Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq.

00:38:10.000 I don't think North Korea was even on the list.

00:38:12.000 You're like, oh, slow down.

00:38:13.000 But they're nuclear power.

00:38:15.000 It'd be kind of easy, though, right? 0.91

00:38:16.000 So, yeah, obviously, conquering Iraq and Afghanistan was a pincer attack on Iran. 0.72

00:38:22.000 The Israelis have wanted to conquer the region for 70 years, basically.

00:38:29.000 And if you're a neocon, your attitude is, why shouldn't we be the empire of the world?

00:38:34.000 Why shouldn't we?

00:38:35.000 If they call us the global police, well, let's actually have.

00:38:38.000 Act like it and go into these places and declare American dominance.

00:38:41.000 Probably there's a state of mind with a lot of the war mongers, if you want to call it, or this liberal economic war machine.

00:38:47.000 It's like the ball is rolling down the hill.

00:38:49.000 Get out of the way.

00:38:51.000 There's no other path than forward right now.

00:38:53.000 There's too much momentum.

00:38:54.000 I think that's the mindset of people like Bolton.

00:38:56.000 There is no other option.

00:38:57.000 It's either that or kind of what Democrats do where they think they know better.

00:39:01.000 You'll see this with Democrats when they talk about black people can't get IDs. 0.69

00:39:04.000 They know so well they actually end up being racist themselves.

00:39:07.000 That's why I think you see with the neocons.

00:39:09.000 They're like, They're just so confident that these countries are just, you know, America knows better.

00:39:14.000 You know, let us go in. 0.95

00:39:15.000 We'll fix their problems, which is kind of silly when you think of like Iran and Israel and that part of the world.

00:39:21.000 It's been at war for thousands of years.

00:39:23.000 I think, though, thousands of years.

00:39:24.000 Let's be honest, though, in terms of the conservatives like that who want to say something along those lines, there's another aspect of it, and that's money from the defense industry.

00:39:32.000 Right.

00:39:32.000 You know, they're getting, okay, like Nikki Haley, right?

00:39:35.000 You know, like basically she's kind of a war hawk, and then she has ties, directed ties to, The direct ties to the defense industry.

00:39:43.000 So, you know, I think in the case of Bolton, that's certainly happening where they're getting some significant funding.

00:39:52.000 They're operating as lobbyists for Raytheon, for, you know, General Dynamics, for all the major defense contractors.

00:40:00.000 And so that's kind of their thing.

00:40:03.000 So they fall into this niche where, yeah, I kind of believe this, but I'm also making a lot of money on it too.

00:40:10.000 And I'm not going to be the one who raises my hands and say, I want off this train.

00:40:14.000 I don't want the money.

00:40:15.000 Yay, war.

00:40:16.000 And that's what Bolton and those guys are like.

00:40:19.000 Do you believe the argument?

00:40:20.000 The one argument I've heard is you use it or lose it.

00:40:23.000 Basically, we have these munitions that were built decades ago.

00:40:26.000 We need to use them or we lose the money that we spent making them. 0.85

00:40:29.000 So, Ukraine, ship them to Ukraine, give them to Israel, drop them on Iran. 0.92

00:40:33.000 Do you think there's any, like, do you believe in that at all? 0.86

00:40:36.000 I think that the use it or lose it argument is just a smokescreen for the buy new stuff because we just used our old stuff.

00:40:36.000 No, I don't.

00:40:44.000 Well, that is the idea.

00:40:45.000 But, yeah, but that is.

00:40:46.000 But it's not that we're going, we're not going to.

00:40:50.000 So, are you saying it's going to become obsolete, so give it away so it can be used?

00:40:54.000 Exactly.

00:40:55.000 And then you actually can justify spending the money to get new munitions built.

00:40:59.000 That's what the root of it is.

00:41:00.000 Right.

00:41:01.000 So it's basically to clear the decks for new purchases.

00:41:04.000 So, in the case of a lot of things that were going to the Ukraine war, even under the Trump administration, which stopped that going in, we did allow NATO to, some NATO nations, to make donations to Ukraine on the basis that NATO was going to buy new stuff from us.

00:41:22.000 So, NATO was giving the hand me downs to Ukraine and then buying new munitions from the United States.

00:41:27.000 But it's not a case of, when you say use it or lose it to a normal Person, I think they think of it in terms of like something that's in their refrigerator, like a used by date, it's going to be bad.

00:41:38.000 You know, a 500 pound bomb is going to be good for a while.

00:41:41.000 It's not going to go bad if you don't drop it on somebody.

00:41:45.000 Maybe in the long, long term, a century, who knows?

00:41:48.000 But not, but I think it's really, it's not like let's have a war, let's use all this stuff because otherwise what we spent in the past is going to be bad.

00:41:58.000 It's like let's get rid of this inventory so we can spend on new stuff.

00:42:03.000 It's also effectiveness, though.

00:42:04.000 I mean, as we're seeing in the Ukraine war, the emergence of not the drone warfare that you're talking about with Bolton originally, but these tiny little tiny drones, the size of like a Prius at largest, you know.

00:42:17.000 And so it's a whole different, like, these defense manufacturers had to completely change what they were making.

00:42:21.000 You know, it's not these big missiles anymore that you need an F 15 to drop.

00:42:25.000 Right.

00:42:26.000 You saw it in World War II.

00:42:27.000 Some of the boats they would bring out were like 20 year old World War I battleships that just got obliterated in combat by new weapons.

00:42:36.000 So, you might see them like, because I think it was Stephen, Al Adin, again, Al Badi, his name's Stephen.

00:42:43.000 For the third time, I'll bring him up, but I think it was him that mentioned that a grand percentage of the stuff we sent to Ukraine failed.

00:42:50.000 The weapons and munitions just failed.

00:42:52.000 Yeah, I think he said it was like a controlled failure, like almost like a scheme.

00:42:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:57.000 They were sending them bad weapons on purpose.

00:42:59.000 Yeah, and then when he brought it up, then they were like, oh, you can't talk about that or something like that.

00:43:06.000 Kind of like a lot of artillery shells.

00:43:07.000 And that's what I was alluding to is just the use or lose it. 0.77

00:43:10.000 Like, hey, we can sit on stuff that we know is bunk or has a high chance of failure, or we can give it to Ukraine.

00:43:16.000 Then we get new money, replace that stockpile.

00:43:20.000 And yeah, I just, you know, I'm increasingly, the more I see of emerging small unmanned aircraft, small drone warfare, it's scary.

00:43:31.000 And especially the ones that people are just now becoming aware of in the public are the fiber optically guided ones that you can't.

00:43:38.000 You can't jam them because they're not controlled by electronic transmission.

00:43:42.000 They literally are trailing out a wire of fiber optic cable, and the operator is controlling it via light, passed down that cable to the drone.

00:43:51.000 And the drone is a camera and is passing the image back the other way.

00:43:55.000 And it's just, it's a very scary technology.

00:44:01.000 We just had the threat of drone attacks at UFC, for instance.

00:44:06.000 So people are talking about using drone attacks in a domestic terror operation.

00:44:12.000 Once that fiber optic guided technology becomes ubiquitous, that's going to be really hard to defend against.

00:44:20.000 And I think the only thing we have going for us is that there are a number of American contractors in that industry space who are hurriedly trying to deploy countermeasure drones that will bridge that gap.

00:44:34.000 So we're entering a time and space of rapid proliferation and adaptation of drones in ways that we haven't seen before.

00:44:44.000 And it's not going to be just like the type of armament battles we've had with other countries in the past, where it's like we build a battleship and you build a battleship that has.

00:44:54.000 Guns that are two inches bigger, and so now we go to a 16 inch battleship in the Iowa class, and you come out with the 18 inch battleship guns of the Amado class in Japan.

00:45:03.000 It's not that over decades, it's a matter of years and capability.

00:45:09.000 Have you seen the stuff the Andoril is Palmer Lockheed's coming out with?

00:45:14.000 So cool, he's got like basically Call of Duty vision.

00:45:16.000 You can see through walls because you've got a drone connected to your smart glass, it's sick, and I think that you we do need to invest in that because if we don't, and like I'm not for intervention, but.

00:45:25.000 If we don't invest in those and build our stockpile, well, China will.

00:45:30.000 They are doing it.

00:45:31.000 And you said the key word it's stockpile.

00:45:35.000 Because when hostilities break out, you're going to be fighting with what you've got.

00:45:40.000 You're going to have a set amount of drones in your inventory.

00:45:43.000 You're going to be battling out with your adversary with what you have at the time that hostilities start.

00:45:48.000 Sure, you can ramp up production and sure, you can try and surge supply.

00:45:52.000 But effectively, you're fighting with what's in the pipeline because the military conflict is going to be so.

00:46:01.000 So, in the short term, it's going to be so much more intensity than the long term conflict.

00:46:08.000 And so, you can't just rely upon, okay, now we're at war, we're going to start building more and start shipping them out.

00:46:14.000 It's really going to be like, what do you have on hand when you go to war?

00:46:18.000 Those fiber optic drones, I don't think they can last too long.

00:46:21.000 Because I don't know if you guys have seen over there the fields, the cities, there's lines.

00:46:25.000 It's all this lines of tiny fiber optic lines covering the streetlights.

00:46:29.000 Spider webs.

00:46:30.000 Yeah, they're everywhere. 1.00

00:46:32.000 It's great for Ukraine because it's third world and nobody gives an F about them. 1.00

00:46:35.000 But I'm not sure if a place like New York City or something like, you know, in any kind of cultural first world would be. 1.00

00:46:42.000 It is a problem.

00:46:43.000 I mean, Ukraine is, it's got some of the most fertile soil on the planet.

00:46:47.000 It is a breadbasket.

00:46:50.000 So they call it the breadbasket of Europe, if not the world.

00:46:53.000 So, I mean, yes, I see what you're saying.

00:46:55.000 It's like, you know, they're not the most advanced civilization compared to in America.

00:47:00.000 But that land is now littered with these fiber optic cables that no one's interested in cleaning up.

00:47:08.000 That's why it won't last.

00:47:09.000 If we want to keep making bread from there and using their land, they're going to ruin it.

00:47:14.000 So it'll be not useful down the road.

00:47:15.000 It's a sort of scorched earth tactic by just polluting the landscape with drones.

00:47:21.000 They're not doing it for that.

00:47:22.000 They're doing it because their drones that were controlled by radio transmissions were getting jammed effectively by Russian forces and vice versa.

00:47:31.000 So by going to a drone that's controlled via fiber optics, it's impervious to the current countermeasures that the enemy side has.

00:47:38.000 So, you can fly your drone, and on the other side, the Russians say, Hey, there's a drone coming.

00:47:43.000 Let's do electronic countermeasures against it.

00:47:45.000 There's nothing to jam, there's no signal.

00:47:47.000 And when the drone blows up, you get a three mile length in like this dental floss.

00:47:51.000 I mean, it's a little bit bigger than that.

00:47:54.000 That just drops wherever in trees, on top of camps, in fields, you know, and just miles and miles and miles of this syroptic cable.

00:48:02.000 Ideally, you'd create a cable that biodegrades with the rain or something like that.

00:48:08.000 The thing is, if you're flying drones over enemy territory, you kind of want to pollute.

00:48:11.000 The territory when you're done, even though it would be considered a human rights violation, like a chemical attack.

00:48:16.000 I don't think so because Russia wants to take the territory for Russians. 0.57

00:48:19.000 Ukraine wants to keep the territory for the Ukrainians.

00:48:22.000 These people don't want to return to nothing. 0.98

00:48:26.000 You know, they have the intention of returning to this land.

00:48:28.000 But in the meantime, like if you're fighting, if the war is real enough, you don't care about preserving the territory until you get it.

00:48:35.000 Then you got to.

00:48:36.000 I guarantee the locals there care.

00:48:38.000 I guarantee the people on the front lines probably care.

00:48:39.000 Maybe not Putin or Zelensky.

00:48:42.000 Nobody controlling the war.

00:48:43.000 Like, I mean, obviously you'd rather get a preserved territory that you can just walk into and turn the lights back on.

00:48:48.000 But.

00:48:49.000 If you have to kill everyone and blow everything up to take it, you'll do that to take it and then rebuild it from scratch.

00:48:54.000 But the degree of contamination from fiber optic cables is nothing compared to, say, the problems that you have with widespread use of landmines or anti personnel mines or chemical attacks.

00:49:07.000 And of course, I'm not even going to mention nuclear attacks because obviously that's kind of a last use case scenario that would make it unusable for decades, if not longer.

00:49:16.000 So you're right, they're not going to care.

00:49:21.000 The effect that fiber optics are really impacting the environment, I think, is probably a problem.

00:49:27.000 It's greater than zero, but it's not like an overarching concern about the poisoning of Ukraine due to this stuff.

00:49:32.000 Yeah, I think you made a good point that they won't last, is what you said.

00:49:35.000 It won't last.

00:49:36.000 Yeah, they evolve past it.

00:49:38.000 But pointing out, like, in the current iteration and amping up of scaling, like, it's really dirty.

00:49:44.000 Like, it's producing a lot of pollution, albeit it's fiber optic cable.

00:49:47.000 Like you said, it's not nuclear waste, but it's just the beginning.

00:49:51.000 Like, if you imagine 100 million times more drones than what we're using, With fiber optics, you could completely desecrate a landscape with fiber optics.

00:49:58.000 It's like plastic.

00:49:59.000 I mean, it's like rubber, which just lays there and becomes super toxic over decades.

00:50:04.000 I mean, think about the.

00:50:04.000 So you'll need to.

00:50:07.000 I'm going to put my leftist cap on for a second, but if you care about the environment, think about the environmental impact of mining all the materials that goes into just miles and miles of the fiber optic cable and the drones themselves and all the components it takes to build the drones.

00:50:22.000 I mean, it's one big.

00:50:25.000 I know we kind of gotten off topic.

00:50:27.000 But it's.

00:50:29.000 Let's move to a more fun topic.

00:50:30.000 Okay.

00:50:31.000 Fun for us to look at other people's dilemma.

00:50:34.000 And this is coming from the New York Post.

00:50:36.000 This is in soccer.

00:50:37.000 We're talking about FIFA here.

00:50:39.000 Iran and Egypt outraged over Pride Match, designation for World Cup faceoff.

00:50:46.000 And they're urging FIFA to scrap the LGBTQ affiliations. 0.70

00:50:51.000 I wondered where is the 2S? 0.95

00:50:54.000 If this were in Canada, this would be all that alphabet soup.

00:50:57.000 With the 2S and the ABCDEFG attached as well. 0.52

00:51:01.000 So, what's happening here is Iran and Egypt have a game being played in Seattle, which is a pride match.

00:51:10.000 Seattle has designated it as a pride match.

00:51:13.000 This is slated for June 26th, and it's coming during Seattle's Pride weekend, and it's being referred to as a pride match.

00:51:21.000 And I don't know if you could come up with, you might be able to, but I don't know if you could come up with two teams who are currently in the World Cup.

00:51:29.000 Who would be more diametrically opposed to appearing in a, you know, theologically everything in opposition to a pride match, and yet they are playing it in Seattle. 0.65

00:51:41.000 Are they playing against each other, Iran and Egypt? 1.00

00:51:44.000 So, okay, this isn't going to happen, but loser has to dress up as a woman. 1.00

00:51:50.000 Like if you're like, look, whatever team loses, we're going to parade you around. 1.00

00:51:53.000 Like it could get that real. 0.82

00:51:54.000 He's going to join the pride celebration. 0.76

00:51:56.000 So FIFA has a rule this year that I don't know if you guys have been watching the World Cup, you'll know the rule that I'm referencing where you can't cover your. 0.70

00:52:02.000 You can't cover your mouth.

00:52:04.000 And when talking to another player, because the implication is you're saying something naughty, saying something dirty.

00:52:11.000 There was a player that got actually either a yellow card or a red card for doing it and got kicked out of the game in this World Cup.

00:52:17.000 And I bring that up because FIFA knows, like, they're very protective.

00:52:20.000 They know how crazy fans can get and how, like, riots happen all the time in soccer stadiums around the world.

00:52:28.000 In the U.S., soccer's not the big sport.

00:52:29.000 We don't see it.

00:52:30.000 But in the whole world, riots happen. 0.92

00:52:33.000 So now, what do you have when you've got two very Muslim countries that reject pride, reject being gay, and you put them against each other? 0.73

00:52:41.000 There's already a rivalry. 0.77

00:52:42.000 It's a high stakes game, and now you've got something that their religion is adamantly against.

00:52:46.000 I'm shocked that FIFA, who's got a hand rule covering your mouth, is allowing this. 0.90

00:52:52.000 I, when I first saw this, I'm like, are the Iranians trying to curry favor with the American MAGA people? 0.83

00:52:58.000 Because MAGA is like, I don't know about all MAGA, but people that are like hardcore MAGA, they're like anti trans. 0.87

00:53:04.000 They're like, no, it's weird to make a young boy a young girl.

00:53:07.000 Like, that's not real. 0.95

00:53:08.000 And I don't know, I'm not blanketing everybody across MAGA, and this isn't quite answering your question, but like, First thing I thought was like, damn, are they trying to get on people's good sides in the U.S. or do they truly just not want Pride? 0.77

00:53:19.000 I had, you have to have, I don't know.

00:53:22.000 I have a feeling they put a bunch of money into the Pride match, not knowing who the teams were going to be at the time. 0.95

00:53:27.000 Correct. 0.92

00:53:27.000 100%. 0.92

00:53:28.000 And now that there's a bunch of money behind it and it's Pride month, the city refuses to back down.

00:53:33.000 This is the Pride match?

00:53:34.000 This is the specific match? 0.98

00:53:36.000 They picked Iran.

00:53:36.000 Yeah.

00:53:37.000 Well, they didn't throw the best.

00:53:39.000 That's how they're like, basically, the game was floated to Seattle.

00:53:42.000 Seattle's been, you know, for Chaz and Chop.

00:53:46.000 No, they've been planning it for years and then.

00:53:48.000 Basically, how do you extract money from corporations in Seattle for a sporting event?

00:53:54.000 Well, it's going to be Pride Month, and there will be rainbows everywhere, and it will be wonderful.

00:54:00.000 And you can't say no, or you are bigoted.

00:54:04.000 And then those companies donate money and support the program, support the game, and support the PR.

00:54:10.000 And then the teams get determined, and it just worked out that these two teams are playing in Seattle. 0.65

00:54:18.000 During the pride match, and what if they if Bolters don't show up? 0.82

00:54:22.000 I mean, that's a possibility. 0.99

00:54:23.000 I was gonna say it's a possibility.

00:54:25.000 Now, we looked at the standings before recording, and this is a kind of a must win for both teams, so I think they will show up. 0.89

00:54:31.000 But it's so Americans, when they one, they're not gonna go to a soccer game, and if they do, these are not two teams that really come to mind.

00:54:39.000 People want to go see Messi, they'll go see Argentina, they want to see Ronaldo, they'll go see Portugal, right?

00:54:43.000 Maybe they want to see England, it's the biggest sport in England.

00:54:46.000 They're not gonna go into an Iran and Iraq or Iran and Egypt game, so who's gonna be in those stands?

00:54:52.000 Iranian fans, Egyptian fans.

00:54:54.000 You're not going to get the neutral party that might be okay.

00:54:56.000 Or spectators that want to see what happens.

00:54:58.000 It could be that.

00:55:00.000 Are they like running out mid game with the high flags?

00:55:02.000 I don't know.

00:55:03.000 What makes it a pride game?

00:55:04.000 What makes it pride?

00:55:06.000 It's actually the game itself is not officially a pride game.

00:55:11.000 Seattle is declared.

00:55:12.000 It's happening in Seattle. 0.91

00:55:14.000 Seattle's calling it the pride match.

00:55:16.000 It's happening against the backdrop of Pride Month.

00:55:19.000 So it's happening in Seattle.

00:55:20.000 And that's what Seattle's terming it.

00:55:22.000 So the, you know, It's not like FIFA has officially sanctioned this as a pride event.

00:55:29.000 But it's happening in the center of an all encompassing push for pride in Seattle.

00:55:34.000 All the players are going to be going there and they're just going to be surrounded by pride parades, pretty much.

00:55:42.000 So the country's complained to FIFA in December.

00:55:45.000 So they've known this was on the calendar for a while.

00:55:49.000 And I'm surprised FIFA isn't.

00:55:52.000 FIFA's got one of the most influential stadiums across the country to cover up their logos.

00:55:57.000 Like the Mercedes Stadium in Georgia doesn't have the giant Mercedes logo on top anymore.

00:56:02.000 Levi Stadium in San Francisco had to cover up Levi's.

00:56:05.000 Like, that's how, because of how protective FIFA is of their brand.

00:56:09.000 So it's shocking to me that they're allowing this to go.

00:56:11.000 We know that the mayor of Seattle is not really one to be considerate towards business interests, though.

00:56:18.000 Right?

00:56:18.000 Katie Porter.

00:56:19.000 I mean, like.

00:56:19.000 No, not Katie Porter.

00:56:20.000 I can't remember her name.

00:56:22.000 I just remember, like, she was saying, let them leave about the businesses, about all the businesses leaving Seattle.

00:56:27.000 Yes.

00:56:27.000 Katie Wilson.

00:56:28.000 So, I mean, even if FIFA had said something to Seattle, Seattle's just going to be like, we don't give a rip.

00:56:35.000 We're going to do what we want to do.

00:56:36.000 We're going to.

00:56:37.000 Because they can't back down on pride.

00:56:40.000 Because think about what happens to them in their next election.

00:56:42.000 They get obliterated.

00:56:43.000 What a pickle they put this on.

00:56:44.000 Because they've got to support pride.

00:56:46.000 They can't back down.

00:56:47.000 They don't have a choice.

00:56:48.000 I just think that, you know, I said in the, I don't know, 30 minutes ago how Democrats think their worldview is superior and they can put it on you because you don't know better.

00:56:56.000 This is a perfect example of it where the Seattle activists and the progressives say there's a quote that they think this is a good moment for inclusivity between these two countries.

00:57:05.000 Yeah, they're doubling down.

00:57:06.000 They know better.

00:57:07.000 They're just at Lumen Fields.

00:57:08.000 They know that.

00:57:09.000 They know that.

00:57:10.000 Rainbow flags and other flags representing sexual orientation and gender identity are permitted under the FIFA World Cup Stadium Code of Conduct. 0.78

00:57:17.000 Now, their cultures, Iranian culture and Egyptian culture, be damned because the Seattle residents and the people organizing this, they know better. 0.84

00:57:25.000 There's a balance to exposure, exposing someone to your culture and getting them to accept your culture. 0.99

00:57:31.000 There's a balance because, like, showing someone a butthole doesn't mean they're going to be okay with gayness all of a sudden. 0.97

00:57:37.000 Like, you can't just force. 0.99

00:57:38.000 And I'm not saying that's what they're doing, but it's an extreme point to make, like, You can't just expect. 0.68

00:57:44.000 It's a curious comparison I can think of as making like two black teams go play at a Klan rally or something like that. 0.79

00:57:50.000 It is similar to that.

00:57:52.000 I hope that the people of Seattle understand that it is similar to that.

00:57:54.000 They don't understand.

00:57:55.000 Or if they do, they don't care.

00:57:56.000 They don't care. 0.96

00:57:57.000 And it's just about who's going to bend the knee, the people of Seattle or the Iranian. 0.96

00:58:01.000 It's not going to be the people of Seattle. 0.84

00:58:03.000 Because, like you said, they feel they have the moral high ground.

00:58:03.000 No way.

00:58:06.000 They're going to stand on it.

00:58:07.000 Unless they think that waving their little flags is going to change their minds and they show up.

00:58:10.000 I'm just saying, you've got, you know, a lot of these, you know, and these aren't the most. 1.00

00:58:14.000 The people attending this match are not the Muslims that you kind of see.

00:58:17.000 They're not the RGC, right? 0.99

00:58:18.000 They're not the most hard-edged Muslims out there. 1.00

00:58:23.000 But imagine losing a match you needed to win and then you've got something insulting your culture and your religion waving in your face. 0.76

00:58:30.000 That's going to piss a lot of people off. 0.99

00:58:31.000 I wonder if we'll have a pitch invader. 1.00

00:58:33.000 Ooh.

00:58:35.000 This would be a great match for a pitch invader, you know, with a nice little rainbow flag, maybe festooned, maybe, you know, maybe just with. 1.00

00:58:45.000 I don't want to say where they would have the flagpole inserted as they're running across, but I'm thinking of, I think we can all visually think about a flag just trailing behind them. 0.78

00:58:55.000 Or they could take a page out of the WNBA and throw multicolored dildos onto the pitch.

00:59:00.000 Just to add some additional context here.

00:59:03.000 That would be some good stuff. 0.95

00:59:04.000 Iran is one of six countries in the world that formally imposes the death penalty for same sex relations. 0.99

00:59:10.000 And Seattle's huge. 0.84

00:59:11.000 And Egypt jails, there's evidence of them jailing gay and lesbians.

00:59:16.000 See, Seattle has a big soccer fan base. 1.00

00:59:16.000 Kills them. 1.00

00:59:19.000 Like the MLS and their small FCs, their football clubs, the Seattle people love soccer.

00:59:24.000 Well, MLS has expanded.

00:59:26.000 There's like 30 something teams now.

00:59:29.000 Back when I was a kid, I watched MLS, there were 12 teams.

00:59:31.000 And in the last 15 years, they've just exploded.

00:59:33.000 So the popularity is growing across the country.

00:59:37.000 But again, when you're thinking of who are the international stars, who are the international teams that you want to go see, these unfortunately are not two of them.

00:59:44.000 So I don't think you're going to get those.

00:59:45.000 You'll get it all about soccer.

00:59:47.000 I think you're going to get activists here.

00:59:49.000 I don't think you're going to get the.

00:59:51.000 You might get some spite attendance.

00:59:54.000 You might get some people from Seattle like, I'm going to go, I'm going to shove it in their face.

01:00:00.000 Metaphorically, I'm going to bring my pride flag and I'm going to go because it's just 90 minutes and whatever, $100, but this is like a protest for them.

01:00:09.000 And they're on your turf.

01:00:10.000 Right.

01:00:11.000 Right.

01:00:12.000 So you feel like you are invincible because you've got the mayor who's a homefield advantage.

01:00:19.000 Homefield advantage with the commie mayor and as progressive as the city is.

01:00:26.000 And there will be rainbow flags.

01:00:27.000 It's kind of like if the Ronaldo, you said.

01:00:29.000 What's that?

01:00:30.000 Nothing. 0.94

01:00:30.000 If Iran was hosting it, making all the women wear burqas that attend the game. 0.94

01:00:35.000 That would kind of be like that. 0.91

01:00:36.000 This happened when Qatar hosted.

01:00:38.000 There were a lot of these restrictions culturally because of Qatar's culture.

01:00:42.000 You know?

01:00:43.000 That was four years ago.

01:00:46.000 I don't know any, I can't think of any examples of that.

01:00:48.000 Alcohol consumption.

01:00:49.000 Yeah.

01:00:49.000 I mean, it's, you know, England is famous.

01:00:52.000 I mean, there's a lot of soccer hooliganism, and I'm not going to say I'm a fan of hooliganism, but soccer culture in Europe, or I should say football culture in Europe, if I'm going to be sensitive to their needs, but I'm not.

01:01:03.000 So, I'm going to call it soccer culture in Europe, such that it is.

01:01:08.000 The supporters of each team will go out and tie one on.

01:01:12.000 They'll get really uniformly drunk before the game and during the game, and that's a big part of being a fan.

01:01:17.000 Visitors were prohibited from bringing alcohol, any porn, any public indecency, including same sex relationships or any illegal drugs. 0.94

01:01:27.000 All of that was restricted, and no one batted an eye because that was Qatar's culture, that's the way they do things. 0.61

01:01:33.000 So, it's just curious that. 1.00

01:01:36.000 Just, you know, the roles are reversed now, you know, and it's curious that, I mean, I guess it's not that different.

01:01:43.000 In the U.S., we like to wave pride flags and we'll shove them in your face, and I guess we're going to keep doing that.

01:01:48.000 What was that? 0.97

01:01:48.000 I don't know why I thought of it, but when Germany, I think it was Hitler's Nazi party, hosted the Olympics. 0.97

01:01:53.000 Yeah, 1936.

01:01:55.000 And then Jesse, I don't know, Jesse Owens.

01:01:57.000 Jesse Owens, black dude, went and won. 0.96

01:01:59.000 And Hitler was just like stone faced watching because he's this white supremacist. 0.96

01:02:03.000 Yep. 0.99

01:02:03.000 That was really great. 0.99

01:02:04.000 Went into their territory and just dominated.

01:02:07.000 I think he was definitely.

01:02:07.000 Huh?

01:02:09.000 Was he?

01:02:10.000 Yeah. 0.88

01:02:10.000 He was an Aryan supremacist. 0.88

01:02:11.000 Yeah, he wanted Aryans and nothing else.

01:02:14.000 And so to really smack it to him, be like, look, other cultures can be better than yours.

01:02:18.000 Other races can be better than yours at certain things.

01:02:20.000 I think it's a lack of respect is like the biggest thing, it's just disrespectful to people.

01:02:24.000 Like, yes, they're coming to our country and they have to realize we have different customs, but these are the same people that cry about not respecting somebody else's culture and, oh, you're a cultural appropriator.

01:02:34.000 And then the second they're faced with somebody else's culture not accepting them, They don't know how to act. 0.84

01:02:40.000 The funny thing is about it all, and it's not like funny, ha ha, it's more funny, strange, a little ha ha, is that it's kind of an aberrant culture. 0.96

01:02:46.000 And like, trans agenda isn't really a huge, you know, it's not the majority of the United States by far. 1.00

01:02:53.000 It's probably like 1% to 2% of the population is really firm about that culture. 0.89

01:02:57.000 You don't think of America.

01:02:58.000 You don't think of this.

01:02:59.000 I know.

01:03:00.000 So it's, no.

01:03:01.000 Well, America is, we're a largely libertarian culture, whether we admit it or not.

01:03:06.000 Like, if we're in West Virginia, we're in the panhandle, and they, You'll see a pride little like on the corner, a little pride demonstration.

01:03:13.000 Yeah, but it's still a minority.

01:03:15.000 But like, you don't see people, the residents, like getting out of their cars and getting in their faces.

01:03:19.000 They shake their head, they sigh, and they keep driving.

01:03:22.000 Yeah.

01:03:23.000 They keep, but we're very tolerant, right, in this country.

01:03:26.000 Overly so.

01:03:27.000 Overly so. 0.94

01:03:28.000 So, what happens though, like when you get Iranians and Egyptians who are not as tolerant and they think that waving a pride flag is going to get the same result out of Ian Crossland as it is some of these fans? 0.99

01:03:39.000 And I think that's the scary part of this whole situation. 0.99

01:03:41.000 The fans, you're talking about.

01:03:42.000 What happens after the match?

01:03:44.000 Right?

01:03:45.000 You know, you want to go out and get.

01:03:45.000 What happens?

01:03:47.000 Well, I guess they're Muslim.

01:03:48.000 They don't really drink that much.

01:03:49.000 But, you know, you're going out for a bite to eat after the match.

01:03:52.000 But everyone else will be drinking.

01:03:54.000 And everyone else will be drinking.

01:03:55.000 Avoid rooftops.

01:03:57.000 Avoid rooftops.

01:03:58.000 To watch soccer, then he ends up maybe getting drunk, hooking up with a dude, thought was a chick, but couldn't really tell.

01:04:04.000 And then after he's like, You know, it wasn't so bad.

01:04:06.000 She just lost me.

01:04:07.000 I'm just thinking about the title.

01:04:10.000 I'm big into contingencies.

01:04:12.000 So just in case.

01:04:13.000 The game's not being played in Thailand.

01:04:15.000 Yeah, I don't think we've done a lady voice here. 0.98

01:04:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:04:18.000 So the game's tonight.

01:04:19.000 Well, the other weird thing, too.

01:04:20.000 So when is any dude you think are accidental?

01:04:22.000 Yeah, the game's tonight.

01:04:23.000 Basically, as soon as this finishes, as soon as we wrap, go on Fubu or Fox and watch the game.

01:04:28.000 But.

01:04:30.000 What's weird, I just lost my train of thought.

01:04:34.000 Oh, the other weird thing about Iran is they were barred.

01:04:36.000 So the Iranian national team was barred from being in the United States for more than 24 hours, except for this match.

01:04:42.000 They were allowed to arrive to Seattle two days early for this match.

01:04:46.000 They've been here for two days cooking.

01:04:49.000 Well, I sure hope.

01:04:52.000 I sure hope the native Seattle people who were in support of the Pride movement were outside their hotel clanging on pots and pans like they.

01:05:01.000 Minneapolis was for ICE agents.

01:05:03.000 I mean, that would be a perfect time for them to just be, you know, blasting Donna Summer and all those great hits from the 70s, from the Studio 54 days outside their hotel nonstop.

01:05:18.000 That would be, I would have paid money to see that, maybe.

01:05:21.000 It's going to be interesting. 0.98

01:05:23.000 It's not that the queer agenda is free Palestine, it's a correlation. 0.78

01:05:30.000 A lot of times you'll see people in the LGBTQ about like, You know, acceptance and tolerance are like, hey, also the Israelis are obliterating the Palestinians. 0.75

01:05:39.000 We need to free Palestine. 0.56

01:05:40.000 So they're kind of sympathetic with the Iranian move about, like, hey, Israel's a bad guy. 0.89

01:05:45.000 But I don't know. 1.00

01:05:47.000 But then the Iranians will put you to death for being gay. 1.00

01:05:51.000 Well, they don't care about that. 1.00

01:05:52.000 It's a virtue signal because it sounds good when they say it.

01:05:55.000 It sounds like I care about human life because I'm saying free Palestine. 0.60

01:05:58.000 I'm saying don't bomb Iran. 0.98

01:05:59.000 So I'm so much better than you because I said that, even though those same people that. 0.94

01:06:05.000 Could be at war are the same people that would throw them off a roof if they ever win.

01:06:08.000 This movement is also like a new political faction, a new political ideology. 0.63

01:06:13.000 It's not just about being gay or queer.

01:06:16.000 It's not just about black and brown people, right?

01:06:19.000 It's all of this stuff combined. 1.00

01:06:20.000 That's why you get the Palestine. 0.98

01:06:22.000 That's why you get the progress pride flag with the black stripe and the brown stripe because that's supposed to be people of color. 0.99

01:06:29.000 And you group them in with the gays. 0.97

01:06:30.000 And now they're all about free Palestine and queers for Palestine. 0.97

01:06:33.000 This is just their logo. 0.98

01:06:34.000 What if they made like an amount and won their life?

01:06:36.000 We added you guys to the flag.

01:06:38.000 Aren't you happy?

01:06:39.000 Dude, I guarantee if you look for it, you will find something with that.

01:06:42.000 Probably.

01:06:43.000 I guarantee it.

01:06:44.000 It really is.

01:06:45.000 They're so anti white dude that it's anything else can go on that flag to them.

01:06:49.000 And if anybody's going to be against pride flags, it's going to be the Straits of Iran. 0.72

01:06:54.000 Yay! 0.90

01:06:56.000 How can they remain straight? 0.97

01:06:57.000 I saw a joke that if the U.S. ends up playing Iran, the winner gets to the Strait of Hormuz. 0.99

01:07:01.000 Yeah. 0.62

01:07:02.000 I think, yeah.

01:07:04.000 There hasn't been really many protests going on.

01:07:06.000 And the reason is because the DOJ allowed them to leave early from where they were down to South in Southern California.

01:07:11.000 They gave them.

01:07:12.000 Time to get into securely so no one knows.

01:07:14.000 Interesting.

01:07:15.000 So that's their reason.

01:07:16.000 Yeah, because the last two games, they're allowed to fly in and basically fly out immediately after the game, and they had to train and stay in Mexico, and they're only allowed stateside for their game.

01:07:26.000 So, I mean, that's interesting.

01:07:28.000 Yeah, they're just looking out for the teams, trying to get them in there so you can leave securely without anyone protesting them.

01:07:32.000 Do they just have one game in the U.S.?

01:07:35.000 They have three in the initial round, and then if they progress beyond that, it'll be once they lose, they're done.

01:07:41.000 This is the third game.

01:07:42.000 So, this is the third game of the initial group play.

01:07:45.000 And they're in position if they win again to have one more game.

01:07:49.000 And things like there are four teams, so all these results matter.

01:07:49.000 Yep.

01:07:52.000 So it depends.

01:07:53.000 Like, if they draw or one team wins or loses, the result of the other game also kind of is a factor in who ends up moving on ultimately.

01:08:01.000 So they play the games at the same time.

01:08:03.000 So you can't, like, not.

01:08:05.000 If you know a result ahead of time, you might not try.

01:08:07.000 You might not even show up.

01:08:08.000 If they keep winning, are they going to be here for a while?

01:08:10.000 Yeah.

01:08:11.000 That's how.

01:08:11.000 Yeah.

01:08:12.000 So after this, after this, the last game.

01:08:12.000 It's comfortable.

01:08:14.000 Just through the end of July.

01:08:15.000 Yeah.

01:08:16.000 The tournament ends in July.

01:08:18.000 And then it's single elimination starting, like, next week.

01:08:20.000 Right.

01:08:20.000 All right.

01:08:21.000 So speaking of the soccer tournament extending, let's talk about.

01:08:25.000 The success, we've talked about Seattle in particular.

01:08:29.000 Let's talk about the success that FIFA is having and the World Cup is having in the United States.

01:08:34.000 This from NBC News 3.6 million soccer fans have attended this year's World Cup matches, setting a record.

01:08:42.000 With weeks left to go in the tournament, that record most likely won't last long.

01:08:47.000 So basically, every new round of games is creating a new record here.

01:08:54.000 And I think that there's a couple things for it.

01:08:56.000 Couple things that are happening here is that there are more teams in this year's World Cup.

01:09:02.000 But I think a huge part of it is that we just have better stadiums than the rest of the world. 0.79

01:09:08.000 And we didn't have to have Indian slave labor building these over a period of years in the middle of a desert with 100 degree humidity.

01:09:18.000 We've just got better sports facilities overall, which are readily adaptable to World Cup soccer.

01:09:24.000 And I did see one thing about Seattle in particular is that the, I think it was Paul Allen.

01:09:31.000 When they made, when they designed the stadium, he specifically wanted it to have dimensions that could accommodate a World Cup soccer match.

01:09:39.000 Oh, interesting.

01:09:40.000 So they even, because the added space you need on the sidelines was built into that stadium in Seattle.

01:09:46.000 When they made that stadium, they wanted it to be able to support a World Cup soccer game.

01:09:51.000 You could not put one in a modern football stadium like you see it, like Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, where the stands are just like right down on the field.

01:10:00.000 You're right, real close.

01:10:02.000 You can't make that into a World Cup field.

01:10:04.000 A lot of what these cities are doing nowadays.

01:10:06.000 So, like, a lot of times when a new stadium is built, it's a partnership between the private team, the private business that owns the team, and the city.

01:10:12.000 It's a public private partnership.

01:10:14.000 And a lot of times nowadays, you're seeing if you want a new stadium, you need to make it big enough and it needs to accommodate concerts, it needs to accommodate soccer, it needs to accommodate football.

01:10:25.000 If they want to do the NHL Classic, the Winter Classic, you need to be able to put an ice rink in there, right?

01:10:30.000 So, these are now all modern stadiums.

01:10:33.000 Are now being built to accommodate all this stuff.

01:10:35.000 We're, as an American, we are just like, we have a sports culture, no matter what anyone says.

01:10:41.000 It is ingrained.

01:10:42.000 Every high schooler is encouraged to play sports.

01:10:44.000 There's high school football stadiums in Texas that sit 50,000 people.

01:10:48.000 They're huge.

01:10:49.000 They're massive.

01:10:51.000 So we are a sports culture, and it's time the world recognizes that, like, yeah, if you want to do a big global sporting event, the United States is the place to be.

01:10:59.000 This is, we know, a month ago, we were talking about Chicago Bears are leaving Chicago to go an hour south for a new stadium where they don't have to pay taxes for.

01:11:08.000 40 years, and it's because of stuff like this.

01:11:10.000 You make that point.

01:11:11.000 Phenomenal new accommodating stadiums that make you want to go chill there.

01:11:16.000 For all I know, they're going to start building hotels in the stadium where you can stay.

01:11:21.000 When they built Nationals Park down in Navy Yard in DC, before that place was a dump.

01:11:25.000 That neighborhood, there was nothing really there.

01:11:27.000 It was kind of run down.

01:11:28.000 They built the park there first, and now you've got these luxury apartment buildings.

01:11:33.000 It's night and day.

01:11:33.000 It is beautiful.

01:11:35.000 The difference that.

01:11:36.000 Well, there's still problems with stadiums.

01:11:37.000 There's still problems. 0.99

01:11:38.000 Utes are still a problem down here.

01:11:40.000 The Utes are still a problem.

01:11:42.000 But when you just look at the people living there and just the actual, from a bird's eye view, it completely changed that neighborhood.

01:11:51.000 And all it started with was a stadium.

01:11:53.000 That happened in Detroit too when they built the new Little Caesars Arena.

01:11:57.000 It was kind of like, yeah, there was like Ford Field, Comerica Park, but then they put in the new arena and it like overnight, it felt like it changed so much stuff.

01:12:05.000 So that does happen.

01:12:07.000 Absolutely.

01:12:08.000 Yeah, in the case of the Navy Yard too, though, I mean, even though I should mention that I had this observation myself walking through D.C. after the kickoff event.

01:12:19.000 And so I walked back to my car and I was parked on.

01:12:23.000 Somewhere around like 19th and M.

01:12:25.000 I was really parked like above the White House, north of the White House.

01:12:29.000 And then the event was south and to the east of the White House.

01:12:33.000 But it's like 10 o'clock at night.

01:12:35.000 I'm in the brick suit and I'm walking through Farragut Park.

01:12:39.000 And there's no homeless there.

01:12:42.000 And like nobody's on a bench.

01:12:44.000 And the landscaping is done and there's flower beds.

01:12:48.000 And so DC now is not like DC was two years ago.

01:12:54.000 It's changed a lot, it's a lot safer.

01:12:56.000 It's a lot cleaner.

01:12:57.000 I noticed driving into D.C. that there weren't people sleeping under the underpasses.

01:13:03.000 So when I say that about Navy Yard, I just want to go back a little bit and just qualify that.

01:13:10.000 It's not as bad as it used to be, and it's getting better.

01:13:12.000 Well, you know, and I think, I hope, I mean, obviously, D.C. is a unique case because it's our capital, and this is America 250.

01:13:18.000 So they really want to do everything they can to make it the most beautiful city.

01:13:21.000 But for decades now, the phenomenon of urban flight has been, everyone's aware of it.

01:13:27.000 It's been very prominent.

01:13:28.000 People are fleeing New York.

01:13:29.000 LA, and they're going to the suburbs, they're going to places like Montana and Idaho and Utah.

01:13:34.000 Land is cheaper, it's safer, it's nicer.

01:13:36.000 But these cities, I think, slowly are starting to recognize hey, if we actually just clean up our downtown areas, we make sure there's some flowers planted, there's fountains flowing, there's no homeless around.

01:13:48.000 People actually enjoy cities.

01:13:50.000 They'll actually be happy with all the amenities that come with living in high density.

01:13:56.000 But for some reason, it just goes neglected, and these problems just spiral out of control.

01:14:02.000 I think.

01:14:03.000 Honestly, I don't know.

01:14:04.000 My personal reason is brake dust off of cars.

01:14:07.000 If we can build cars with magnetic brakes and that don't pour petroleum into the atmosphere, cities are going to be so much nicer.

01:14:14.000 But that pollution is nasty.

01:14:17.000 It gets right into your bloodstream, especially the brake dust through the alveoli in your lungs, poisoning, toxic, raising blood pressure, confusion.

01:14:26.000 Like, until that's solved, it's going to be with the internet.

01:14:29.000 As long as the internet stays prominent and you're able to work online and communicate and get everything you need on Amazon.com, like, I, I, yeah, my personal take is cities are just gross.

01:14:40.000 But Ian, what happened?

01:14:41.000 Like, this is, you know, what happens when it's late at night and you get off work and you want to go grab a bite or grab a drink with a friend?

01:14:49.000 In a city, you walk five minutes.

01:14:51.000 Out here where we live, you got to drive 15, 20 minutes.

01:14:53.000 Or closed.

01:14:55.000 Or they're closed.

01:14:55.000 Yeah, they're closed.

01:14:57.000 There's something you just said that I just want to like, it just clicks something in my brain.

01:15:01.000 You said cities are gross, okay?

01:15:02.000 And I think the one thing that's happening in this World Cup is that the world has like a concept of what America is like.

01:15:09.000 And when they're not here, that concept is driven to them via media, via movies, via TV shows, not via direct experiences of people who are in the United States.

01:15:21.000 And what we've got is an influx of international fans who are discovering America in ways that many Americans don't really even experience their own country.

01:15:31.000 I'm wearing my Bucky's cap right now because there are several people on social media, I think the most prominent of which is named Freddie.

01:15:39.000 And we don't know who Freddie is, but Freddie is a German guy.

01:15:45.000 And he has been embraced by the internet in such a way that I'm literally the guy could make a post on social media about being out of toilet paper and he would just be showered by like airdrop Kimberly Clark triple ply.

01:15:59.000 Do you know why?

01:16:00.000 The guy can do nothing wrong right now.

01:16:01.000 Do you know why that is though?

01:16:02.000 Do you know why he's being showered with all these gifts and opportunities?

01:16:06.000 You know, my read on it is people are using him for the attention.

01:16:11.000 Like if you're a company, you know, okay, if Freddie wants this or Freddie wants that.

01:16:16.000 I can do something good for Freddie and that light will shine indirectly upon myself.

01:16:21.000 Exactly right.

01:16:22.000 Like Super Bowl ads, we know they cost millions of dollars, right?

01:16:25.000 And that's just to get your eyes into a ton of people.

01:16:28.000 The attention that this guy Freddie's getting.

01:16:31.000 So, American Airlines, I think it was offered to fly him.

01:16:33.000 He had a flight that got canceled.

01:16:35.000 What is that?

01:16:35.000 $1,500 for the airline to give him a really nice last minute?

01:16:39.000 And how much clout, how much publicity are they getting off a $1,500 investment?

01:16:46.000 It's pure capitalism.

01:16:47.000 And also, but how much would they just?

01:16:48.000 Be how much negative?

01:16:50.000 What's the downside if they don't do that?

01:16:52.000 So it's not just what they get for the positive, but they avoid all the negative stuff.

01:16:57.000 When Freddie said he was trying to make a flight, I think it was up to Canada.

01:17:01.000 He had a game up in Canada and he missed a flight connection.

01:17:04.000 And I think I put something out at the time like, Freddie is a true American.

01:17:07.000 He has missed a flight due to weather problems or something like that.

01:17:11.000 That's like, now you're really experiencing American problems.

01:17:14.000 The breakdown of our aerial transport network has come for you.

01:17:18.000 And then I think within hours, He had several private jet companies.

01:17:22.000 The governor of Utah, I think, offered them.

01:17:24.000 Yeah, you know, like J.J. Watt was going to get him a plane.

01:17:27.000 I'm like, it's at the point now where Freddie said, I really like America.

01:17:27.000 I mean, so everything.

01:17:31.000 I'd like to stay, but I don't think I can afford a house.

01:17:35.000 Within hours, he would have a rocket mortgage, and every other lender would be giving him offers to pay his down payment, do all of his paperwork.

01:17:43.000 And by the way, here's the rest of the money to pay off your mortgage just right now, so you don't even have to worry about it for the next 30 years.

01:17:49.000 You're asking why he got so far here.

01:17:51.000 So he's been Freddie.

01:17:52.000 I'll give backstory for anyone that doesn't know FreddieLA7 on Twitter.

01:17:55.000 I think he posts on other platforms too.

01:17:57.000 He is just a World Cup fan from Germany, came to support Germany.

01:18:01.000 They're playing in the US, have a little vacation.

01:18:04.000 And he just starts posting about America.

01:18:06.000 I think the first post that went viral, he's like, I didn't realize Atlanta was like a giant forest.

01:18:10.000 That's just him, like a random picture of trees in Atlanta.

01:18:14.000 And then it's like him at Waffle House and then him going to Bass Pro Shops and then going to an Ella Langley concert.

01:18:21.000 So he's just documenting.

01:18:23.000 Like live tweeting his experience through America, and he's just so grateful for everything.

01:18:27.000 Not a single bad thing.

01:18:28.000 Going to Bucky's.

01:18:29.000 It's like insane.

01:18:30.000 He gets all these perks now.

01:18:32.000 Well, that's why.

01:18:33.000 He got so viral, and then companies started latching on, and then that just increased the virality.

01:18:33.000 It's crazy.

01:18:38.000 Now you've got Ella Langley, who's on top of the world. 0.50

01:18:41.000 Hey, come backstage passes to my concert.

01:18:43.000 The radio is like, oh, we heard about this.

01:18:45.000 Shout out to her.

01:18:46.000 Great press for America.

01:18:47.000 Yeah.

01:18:48.000 Yeah.

01:18:49.000 So.

01:18:49.000 Country singer.

01:18:50.000 Oh.

01:18:51.000 I love, I've been watching, I follow Freddie.

01:18:53.000 I love, Watching him as he goes through the US, he complained about how cold it is inside of our arena or stadiums.

01:19:00.000 But it's just, it's been such a white pill because you have right now what's kind of birthed from the World Cup rhetoric is the heat wave in Europe.

01:19:08.000 And now there's a big debate how the Europeans refuse to admit that air conditioning might be a good idea.

01:19:15.000 But all the Europeans that are here for the World Cup are going around and be like, oh, it's a blessing.

01:19:19.000 It's 100 degrees down in the heart of Texas, but I walk into a CVS and it's like 65.

01:19:24.000 It's amazing.

01:19:26.000 And so we're getting really good publicity.

01:19:28.000 On the international stage. 1.00

01:19:30.000 It makes me think of those black squares. 0.87

01:19:31.000 You know how people will post black squares on Twitter or on Facebook?

01:19:35.000 Yeah, Instagram. 0.80

01:19:36.000 They'd make their profile a black square. 0.95

01:19:37.000 Like that's Freddie right now. 0.99

01:19:39.000 He's the black square. 0.97

01:19:40.000 He's the Dylan Mulvaney of three years ago. 0.92

01:19:40.000 Yeah. 0.92

01:19:42.000 Corporations are getting behind because it makes them look good.

01:19:45.000 It's a cheap investment.

01:19:47.000 It's very low risk and extremely high reward.

01:19:50.000 And if it's going to be that, if it's going to be something that celebrates America, all four.

01:19:54.000 He's saying 250.

01:19:55.000 He takes road trips.

01:19:56.000 He said, Where should I drive in Texas?

01:19:59.000 I love road trips.

01:20:00.000 I mean, I drove to the East Coast from California.

01:20:03.000 I like driving.

01:20:04.000 I would rather drive across America than fly across America.

01:20:10.000 On the way back to the West Coast, there's a 50% chance I go to Chicago.

01:20:14.000 With that steam train, I said I want to track because it's going to go through there.

01:20:17.000 And if I, and I might just take Route 66 from the start in Chicago all the way to LA because I've always wanted to drive the entire route.

01:20:25.000 I've only done like small portions of it.

01:20:27.000 And it's always been like from here to there.

01:20:30.000 Oh, I can take this little segment of Route 66.

01:20:33.000 I'll do that.

01:20:34.000 But to have like 10 or 12 days to do the entire thing and just drive a little bit each day, that's the type of stuff I want to do.

01:20:41.000 That's the type of road trip I like because you learn more about America when you stop at a.

01:20:47.000 You know, a mom and pop sandwich joint or ice cream shop or whatever in the middle of Kansas than you do by flying from LA to New York.

01:20:57.000 There's a poster on Twitter, James Keel Patrick.

01:21:00.000 I think he's got a clothing brand.

01:21:01.000 Love KJP.

01:21:02.000 So he had a post that was like, if you watch the news all day, you would assume America's the worst place in the world, right?

01:21:09.000 There's all this division, all this, you know, contention.

01:21:12.000 If you drive through America, you realize how beautiful the people are, how amazing the places are.

01:21:17.000 He's like, it's just a completely different experience. 0.98

01:21:20.000 You know, and what does the Europeans get? 0.96

01:21:22.000 They only get it through media.

01:21:23.000 They get it from watching the news or Twitter.

01:21:25.000 But here in America and now at the World Cup, they're driving through these places.

01:21:29.000 They're like, okay, there's only one game this week.

01:21:32.000 What are we going to do the other six days?

01:21:33.000 Let's take a trip.

01:21:35.000 Let's drive into the desert.

01:21:36.000 Let's drive, you know, and see the sights.

01:21:39.000 And just like you're saying, you know, it's, it unlocks something in you as an American to like drive through the country.

01:21:45.000 I think it's the greatest country on earth geographically.

01:21:49.000 It's just the greatest country.

01:21:49.000 Oh, it is.

01:21:50.000 We're a cheat code.

01:21:51.000 Politically, it's pretty awesome.

01:21:52.000 Period.

01:21:53.000 The Republican, of course, probably the best.

01:21:55.000 Best government on the planet, even though it's not a big deal.

01:21:57.000 Let me throw a pitch to you here, okay?

01:21:59.000 Let's say you're considering going to someplace on vacation.

01:22:02.000 What if I told you there was a place you could go that you've never been before?

01:22:05.000 You don't need a visa, you don't need a passport, they speak your language, your money works there, and basically everything makes you able to travel there easily, but it's completely different.

01:22:20.000 And that's America. 0.69

01:22:20.000 You're trying to get me to make Gaza the 51st state? 0.69

01:22:22.000 I'm just saying that's America.

01:22:24.000 I'm saying that's America. 0.98

01:22:25.000 Why Asia? 0.96

01:22:25.000 You could live in Florida. 0.96

01:22:27.000 And Montana is a completely different culture.

01:22:30.000 You can live in California and you can go to Colorado and it's completely different.

01:22:35.000 So there's so much of the country that you can see.

01:22:38.000 And I have been, you know, I would say I've been blessed to see a lot.

01:22:41.000 But I've also made the effort to drive and see it.

01:22:44.000 And I think that more people should do that.

01:22:47.000 You don't realize, I mean, I get so frustrated seeing families spend like $10,000, $15,000 to go to Disney World.

01:22:56.000 All right.

01:22:57.000 When you could just.

01:22:58.000 For that amount of money, you could put a rooftop tent on your SUV and you could go to Yellowstone or some, not just national parks, but you could go to BLM Lands or you could go to any number of places where you can just boondock and camp and have a great time and not be given the dang mouse months' worth of your salary because you've got to go and be at Disney and get that corporate type of vacation programmed into you.

01:23:27.000 The open road is there for you in America.

01:23:30.000 You could just do that.

01:23:31.000 Get out of your car and take it.

01:23:33.000 You know, just go to it.

01:23:34.000 And you can go to Disney World.

01:23:35.000 Like, it's all there in the United States.

01:23:36.000 It's so crazy.

01:23:37.000 The hyper capitalism and the beautiful natural environment.

01:23:39.000 From Disney World to Disneyland.

01:23:41.000 Yeah, and see the whole country.

01:23:43.000 Like half the country would be like doing so.

01:23:45.000 The thing about California, too, is it gets so much criticism politically, as it should, but geographically, you're in Southern California, it is so epic.

01:23:54.000 You go to the beach, you surf, then you drive two hours, you're up in the mountains, and you can ski.

01:24:00.000 Then you drive another two hours, and you're in the desert with like the wildest rock formations and hot ass desert.

01:24:08.000 And I always, so we've got, Down here in Harper's Ferry, we've got Maryland Heights.

01:24:13.000 It's a giant cliff face.

01:24:16.000 People hike it, and it's tall. 0.96

01:24:17.000 You stand at the bottom of it, it's a tall ass place.

01:24:20.000 You look at that, and I don't know how tall it is. 0.82

01:24:22.000 Maybe 100 feet.

01:24:24.000 I don't know off the top of my head.

01:24:25.000 But I did look it up at one point.

01:24:27.000 El Capitan.

01:24:28.000 How high is it?

01:24:28.000 Yeah, in Harper's Ferry.

01:24:30.000 What I do know is El Capitan, the famous rock formation in California, is 10 times the height of that.

01:24:36.000 And it's just something like, even though we're Americans and we're here, it's like just thinking about that.

01:24:41.000 It's hard to.

01:24:41.000 You've still never been to the Grand Canyon, have you?

01:24:43.000 I've flown over it.

01:24:44.000 Have you stood next to it or anybody?

01:24:46.000 You can feel the heat falling down into it.

01:24:48.000 It gets so cold.

01:24:49.000 I have been down to the bottom and stayed overnight and came back up the next day.

01:24:54.000 Did you sail the river or float over the river?

01:24:56.000 No, I didn't do rafting.

01:24:58.000 I'm not going to say I hiked it because I was on the donkeys.

01:25:00.000 I was on the donkeys.

01:25:01.000 Oh, that's cool.

01:25:03.000 Basically, the donkeys that you could get there, and they would take you down to the Angels Ranch, which is down at the bottom.

01:25:09.000 Is it the biggest canyon on earth?

01:25:12.000 You know, I think it is.

01:25:13.000 And I know that it's approximately from the south rim down to the river base, it's roughly 5,000 feet.

01:25:21.000 And then if you go up to the north from the river, it's 7,000 feet.

01:25:25.000 So it's just, it's massive.

01:25:29.000 And there may be a subterranean, I mean, a subterranean, there may be a canyon under the ocean that is deeper.

01:25:35.000 So if we're going to talk about canyons, we can't rule out subocean canyons.

01:25:41.000 But on land, it's an amazing thing to see.

01:25:45.000 But it's not just.

01:25:47.000 You know, honestly, I think we're hyper fixated as Americans upon destinations, and perhaps it's Instagram that makes that happen.

01:25:56.000 And it's not so much the photo op as the things that you see while you are traveling that really pull America into you.

01:26:06.000 I mean, I say often the journey is the destination, and it's almost exactly like it is no better elucidated by your point.

01:26:15.000 It's the transgression to the place, it's the change in the environment as you're arriving.

01:26:21.000 The Greeks called it.

01:26:22.000 Orthotectic architecture, whereas the Romans would have very functional architecture where you want as many houses as you can packed into a nice, convenient environment. 0.84

01:26:30.000 The Greeks, it was all about what you saw as you arrived, how it looked as you got there. 0.89

01:26:34.000 It's called orthotectism. 0.62

01:26:35.000 And so that's how the United States kind of is.

01:26:37.000 You're driving down a desert canyon road, and then all of a sudden there's a giant mountain in front of you.

01:26:41.000 Then these beautiful rivers cut across the landscape, and then you're like, and then it starts snowing, and you're like, how high up am I? 0.77

01:26:49.000 But the European mind can't comprehend the scale.

01:26:49.000 It's.

01:26:53.000 Of America.

01:26:54.000 I was talking to someone.

01:26:55.000 You just can't.

01:26:56.000 And a lot of times when we're talking about how far something is, we say how long it takes us to get there.

01:27:01.000 And I guess that's more of an American thing.

01:27:04.000 In Europe, they just say, oh, it's two kilometers.

01:27:07.000 It's three kilometers.

01:27:08.000 Out here, we're like, oh, how far is that thing?

01:27:10.000 It's two hours away because of how wide the expanse is of America.

01:27:16.000 Oh, we've just accepted that it's going to take some time to get there?

01:27:19.000 It does take a while.

01:27:21.000 The country's so big.

01:27:22.000 It's so big.

01:27:23.000 You can put Texas over Europe and it's like the whole thing.

01:27:27.000 Right, coming from Texas myself, like you can drive 18 hours in Texas.

01:27:32.000 I'd still be in Texas.

01:27:33.000 It's like a thousand miles to go from El Paso to exit Houston towards Louisiana.

01:27:39.000 Before we veer off this topic again, and maybe this is a big ask, but can we get Freddie on the show?

01:27:45.000 If you had Freddie on the show, forget it, man.

01:27:48.000 He's an anonymous.

01:27:49.000 There'd be so many people.

01:27:51.000 I mean, that would be the biggest get.

01:27:53.000 They're trying to get him at the White House.

01:27:55.000 So they're trying to get Freddie at the White House, and that'd be a big get, too.

01:27:55.000 Are they?

01:27:59.000 And, you know, all power to it.

01:28:01.000 If they land him at the White House, that's fantastic because it's still a positive message.

01:28:07.000 You know, basically saying showcase America.

01:28:07.000 It's still.

01:28:10.000 This is something that's great about America.

01:28:12.000 He sends it across the world.

01:28:13.000 People are learning that.

01:28:14.000 And meanwhile, here in America, our own Gen Z hates work.

01:28:21.000 So we got this positive message going out.

01:28:23.000 And internally, we're having problems with segments of our society who are just really not vibing with America or what needs to happen.

01:28:31.000 So let's go over this from the FP.

01:28:34.000 Why Gen Z hates work?

01:28:36.000 When you spend hours each day watching influencers get rich without much effort.

01:28:41.000 You forget what it takes to succeed in this world.

01:28:45.000 And so, I don't know if I can really speak to what Gen Z is thinking.

01:28:50.000 It's hard for me to put myself in that mindset.

01:28:53.000 I like to think that there's something that I can do because when you're involved in politics, that's something even peripherally, and even if you're not involved in politics, most people have a sense of empathy.

01:29:04.000 I mean, we're not psychopaths and sociopaths.

01:29:07.000 So, most people have a sense of empathy where they can put themselves in the shoes of somebody else.

01:29:13.000 But I recognize that it's much more difficult for Gen Z than it was for myself at that age.

01:29:19.000 I mean, that's just a reality.

01:29:20.000 And certain things like social media have come about, and there are different examples now.

01:29:27.000 I didn't have social media success stories to look at, to emulate.

01:29:33.000 From my perspective, that really just started where probably Paris Hilton and seeing her as what she was, the amount of attention and success and financial stuff she was getting for just being Paris Hilton.

01:29:46.000 Yeah, the Big Brother, those reality TV shows in the early 2000s.

01:29:50.000 Like, what was the other one?

01:29:52.000 There was Big Brother and then.

01:29:53.000 The real world.

01:29:54.000 Real world, real world.

01:29:55.000 And then these people started becoming pseudo famous and getting like brand deals and stuff.

01:29:58.000 That was certainly.

01:30:00.000 I don't know.

01:30:01.000 How old are you now?

01:30:02.000 What was your generation or age?

01:30:03.000 Take a guess.

01:30:05.000 I will reveal.

01:30:07.000 You must take a guess.

01:30:08.000 29.

01:30:10.000 44.

01:30:10.000 42.

01:30:11.000 46.

01:30:12.000 My age?

01:30:13.000 Yeah.

01:30:14.000 29?

01:30:14.000 Kelvin?

01:30:15.000 Oh, my bad.

01:30:16.000 You just look so good, man.

01:30:18.000 31.

01:30:18.000 Love it.

01:30:19.000 I'm a boomer.

01:30:21.000 Oh, really?

01:30:22.000 1964.

01:30:23.000 Oh, wow.

01:30:24.000 You look really good for that.

01:30:25.000 So, you're the people that are always.

01:30:26.000 Yes, I'm the tail end of the boomer generation.

01:30:29.000 It's all my fault. 0.99

01:30:30.000 You missed Vietnam, too. 0.87

01:30:31.000 I was 79, so I missed Vietnam.

01:30:32.000 We're in a generation where we're interwar generation where we didn't have to fight.

01:30:37.000 Like my dad's generation, he got sent to Vietnam.

01:30:40.000 And that was a draft, too.

01:30:41.000 So, let's be.

01:30:42.000 For those of you who don't know, Vietnam was a draft situation. 0.86

01:30:44.000 You couldn't necessarily avoid it. 0.74

01:30:45.000 He joined the Navy post-beat.

01:30:48.000 So, he got sent around to Germany and he was in South America.

01:30:50.000 He didn't serve time in the jungle, but. 1.00

01:30:53.000 They had like this generation that, like, life's not supposed to be easy.

01:30:58.000 And it was for a lot of people between 1990 and 2010 or 2007.

01:31:03.000 And so it's like some people had to go to war to live in prosperity.

01:31:08.000 Other people, you just have to work, dude.

01:31:11.000 I spent, I got my first job at 12, walking a dog.

01:31:15.000 I got my first real gig at 14, working at a chicken shack. 0.96

01:31:18.000 I worked every, I've never stopped working jobs I fucking hated for 20 years. 0.94

01:31:24.000 Yeah, basically. 0.95

01:31:24.000 Serving people food and just. 0.95

01:31:27.000 Being treated like, and eventually you get to a point where you're doing what you love if you keep at it long enough and you might be able to not work.

01:31:35.000 I think that's rich.

01:31:36.000 I mean, coming from Gen Z, you know, we're told just work hard, right?

01:31:40.000 Go to school, get a degree, work hard, you'll be fine.

01:31:43.000 Pull yourself up from your bootstraps.

01:31:44.000 Exactly.

01:31:45.000 Exactly what we're told.

01:31:46.000 And it's not that you can't get by doing that, it's that there really doesn't seem like there's upward mobility.

01:31:52.000 Housing is only getting more and more expensive, whether it's owning or renting, right?

01:31:56.000 Everyone needs a cell phone nowadays.

01:31:57.000 This is a cost that the boomers and Gen X never had a modern cell phone and a cellular plan. 0.83

01:32:03.000 And you need Wi Fi at the house for when ultimately work follows you home. 0.85

01:32:07.000 Like, these are all expenses that we now have.

01:32:09.000 On top of, like, there's no upward mobility in the job market.

01:32:12.000 A lot of these places, you just, like you said, you're working at a restaurant.

01:32:16.000 Well, that's what you're going to get.

01:32:17.000 Maybe if they raise minimum wage, you'll get a pay boost.

01:32:20.000 But that's it.

01:32:22.000 That's how I get it.

01:32:23.000 Let me read in between both of y'all.

01:32:25.000 Oh, I was just going to read another paragraph here because you scrolled here.

01:32:28.000 I think this is interesting.

01:32:29.000 So, after Daniel Hagen, a 23 year old from Los Angeles, graduated from Claremont McKenna in 2023, he started looking for a job, interviewing with a fashion startup, a real estate company, a few tech firms, and marketing agencies.

01:32:44.000 He made it to the final round of 10 different job applications.

01:32:47.000 Quote I had five or six interviews with each company.

01:32:50.000 I did projects for all of them.

01:32:52.000 It was a 12 week process, and some of the recruiters would ghost me for weeks.

01:32:57.000 And in the end, none of the companies came through.

01:32:59.000 The night before his final interview for one position, He said he was told they were postponing the role for at least six months because the economy is S H I T.

01:33:08.000 So, you know, your situation where you're saying you would work jobs you would hate, the only thing I see about him right here is is he really preparing himself in college for the job market that exists there? 0.99

01:33:20.000 That's the lie that was sold to Gen Z. Just go to college, get the degree, you'll be fine. 0.99

01:33:24.000 That's clearly not the case.

01:33:26.000 Now, and if you're a lefty, Gen Z, right, you're like, okay, this is the result of capitalism, it failed. 0.99

01:33:32.000 We need free shit, right? 0.99

01:33:34.000 And if you're on the right side, if you're conservative, look at what happened in LA when they started the deportation raids. 1.00

01:33:40.000 Rent dropped.

01:33:41.000 It was unheard of.

01:33:42.000 Everyone's like, why?

01:33:43.000 Traffic was better.

01:33:44.000 Traffic was better.

01:33:45.000 Rent dropped. 0.51

01:33:46.000 So now you've got the conservatives saying, well, yeah, these jobs that I'm supposed to be working, you're undercutting what I should be earning, what I need to earn to live, and you're giving it to an illegal.

01:33:55.000 And yeah, right?

01:33:55.000 How many millions and millions of people came in under Biden and millions and millions before that?

01:34:00.000 And so now Gen Z's like, all right, well, we've been left in the dust, right?

01:34:03.000 So you're going to go super right wing and say, No immigration at all. 1.00

01:34:09.000 Whoever's here should stay here. 0.99

01:34:10.000 Everyone else, no more.

01:34:11.000 No more.

01:34:12.000 Then you get the left wing that's saying, actually, just bring everyone in, but just give us all free stuff.

01:34:16.000 Like, what's the point anymore?

01:34:17.000 Well, I do think a big part of it, too, is the rise of like a TikTok where it's like easy to get, I mean, not easy, but like overnight people were getting millions of followers, brand deals, all these things.

01:34:24.000 And so they think, well, I can just sit at home and work on my phone and I don't have to go out and get a real job and learn these actual lessons of life.

01:34:31.000 And I've worked jobs that I hated, and we're about the same age, Kellen and I are.

01:34:35.000 And we've both probably worked jobs we didn't like, but we're also both.

01:34:38.000 More right wing, where we wouldn't sit there and be like, Oh, I just want all this stuff for free.

01:34:43.000 And I just want to sit on my phone all day and make TikToks.

01:34:45.000 I think they're afraid of hard work in a lot of ways.

01:34:47.000 And I don't know exactly why that is.

01:34:49.000 I think for younger Gen Z, it's because of COVID partially.

01:34:51.000 But I think it's social.

01:34:52.000 I think it's a mix of two things.

01:34:53.000 I think there is truth to the fact that hard work doesn't pay off like it used to.

01:34:57.000 Yes.

01:34:58.000 And the other thing is, Gen Z is definitely more like they want the instant gratification more than other generations because we grew up with social media, right?

01:35:05.000 Our brains are desired for the here and now, right?

01:35:08.000 If I'm working overtime, Oh, I want to see that money that day. 1.00

01:35:12.000 I think that's how the Gen Z brain works. 1.00

01:35:13.000 So it's one, yeah, you're getting a little bit of like the economy stagnating. 1.00

01:35:17.000 It's harder to move up in the workforce, right?

01:35:19.000 The job market, obviously, you're applying five or six times.

01:35:23.000 You get five or six interviews for a job that's not even that good, right?

01:35:27.000 So you're seeing all these factors on top of we're just, you know, mentally, we just demand more now.

01:35:32.000 How much of a push, if any, did you get for, say, going into trades as opposed to college?

01:35:39.000 I think it depends where you grow up, but I grew up in Montgomery County, Maryland, very, very left wing.

01:35:44.000 They made fun of it.

01:35:45.000 They would say in class, oh, you didn't show up to class yesterday.

01:35:47.000 What do you want to be a plumber?

01:35:49.000 That'd be a great job.

01:35:51.000 Hundreds of thousands of people.

01:35:52.000 Run your own company, never replaced by a robot.

01:35:52.000 So good.

01:35:55.000 You know, 15, 14 year old me, I didn't go to look up.

01:35:58.000 You know, what's the average salary?

01:36:00.000 You know, like I'm just like, oh, all the adults in my life, the people I'm supposed to trust, are telling me that those are bad jobs.

01:36:06.000 Those are for the people that stick around all day.

01:36:09.000 In our school, 1996, we had Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, Northeast Ohio.

01:36:09.000 So, yeah.

01:36:14.000 We had like the trade school building, and it was like the kids that would cut class or go out and smoke.

01:36:20.000 They'd be the ones in there banging things with hammers. 0.99

01:36:22.000 And we kind of just thought those are the dumb kids. 1.00

01:36:25.000 Those are the kids that couldn't focus in class or whatever. 1.00

01:36:27.000 They looked down, they frowned upon it.

01:36:30.000 And now they're all probably, I don't know about all of them, but a lot of them had a lot of money.

01:36:35.000 I mean, out here, this is a very blue collar area, and you see these massive houses.

01:36:39.000 And every once in a while, I'll know someone that lives in one of those houses, and it's like, what do they do?

01:36:44.000 Oh, they own a mechanic.

01:36:45.000 They own a body shop.

01:36:46.000 They're a mechanic.

01:36:47.000 They're an electrician.

01:36:48.000 They're an electrician.

01:36:48.000 They own a yard service to come and cut your grass.

01:36:51.000 And they have these massive 5,000 square foot houses.

01:36:55.000 We were just talking about building a farmhouse and having one sort of garage is like, For as a mechanic shop, like electrical and, and you know, welding and stuff.

01:37:04.000 Then the other side is like for car mechanics.

01:37:07.000 You need that stuff.

01:37:08.000 You cannot be self sustainable without being able to repair heavy machinery.

01:37:11.000 You have to be able to do it.

01:37:12.000 You either have to hire someone to come do it or do it. 0.91

01:37:14.000 Well, have you seen the videos of, and this is primarily Gen Z women, but have you seen the videos of these girls who are like first day at my first big girl job and then they, it's like they get home and they start crying at 7 30. 0.99

01:37:25.000 And they're like, I can't, can't even make my food or go to the gym and this is stupid and I want to quit and life sucks. 0.96

01:37:31.000 And it's like, yeah. 1.00

01:37:32.000 That's being an adult. 0.99

01:37:33.000 Like, that's not, like, it's, yeah, it sucks.

01:37:35.000 We have all, every single person at this company has put in longer hours than we thought we would.

01:37:40.000 We don't really, like, go home and we're like, oh my God, I couldn't go to the gym today.

01:37:44.000 Oh, I couldn't make my dinner.

01:37:45.000 I had to go pick up dinner.

01:37:46.000 It is what it is.

01:37:47.000 That's what you do as an adult.

01:37:48.000 And then there's the adult, like, you know, adult daycares, basically, where you've got the same Gen Z women saying, this is what it's like for a day in the life at working at Twitter before Elon.

01:37:56.000 And it's like, 9 a.m., they're at the wine bar.

01:37:59.000 10 a.m., they're in a Pilates class.

01:38:00.000 It's like, well, when do you actually do work?

01:38:02.000 Like, we go downstairs and play a game together.

01:38:04.000 It's like, what are you doing? 0.98

01:38:05.000 You think people, Like these people that are complaining, or the where the companies do you think they need to just suck it up, work shitty jobs? 0.97

01:38:13.000 Yes, yes, yes. 0.75

01:38:14.000 I've applied for so many more jobs than this one, dude.

01:38:18.000 And I've done all this same stuff, dude.

01:38:20.000 After COVID, I probably applied for like easily 150 jobs.

01:38:26.000 And like, I've been you know, I was towed across the line, given all the same shit, but I've also been working other stuff since I was 15 or 14.

01:38:35.000 Like, I've done everything from like Walking around a graveyard shift to make sure there was no fire starting in a data center to like Cinemark movie concession stand guy, I mean, lifeguarding and everything else.

01:38:48.000 But like, I never stopped working those jobs that you're talking about.

01:38:51.000 I think the big thing is they're not keeping up with inflation, they're not keeping up with the modern cost to live.

01:38:55.000 So now, like, I'm supposed to be able to make a living off of those jobs, but I how you used to be able to not barely well in the 90s.

01:39:02.000 You could, I tempt that was my thing, is it was you used to be able to go to work city, yeah, sign up with temp agencies.

01:39:07.000 I had like four or five of those every morning.

01:39:10.000 I'd call and be like, Hey, is there a job for me today?

01:39:12.000 Yeah, it pays $16 an hour on 32nd Street, be there by 9 30.

01:39:15.000 I'd go in, I'd sit at a desk for eight hours.

01:39:17.000 The thing is, you'll do that.

01:39:18.000 These kids, like we talked about, how many people still live at home, right?

01:39:21.000 Like how much of Jen's you still live at home? 0.99

01:39:23.000 They don't have to make that money to make rent.

01:39:25.000 They don't know what it's like to be like, oh, shoot, I gotta, you know, get this odd job.

01:39:29.000 Every month for 20 years, I worried about where my rent was coming from.

01:39:32.000 Exactly.

01:39:33.000 Literally every month. 0.99

01:39:34.000 And Gen Z doesn't move. 0.98

01:39:34.000 I'd love to do that. 0.98

01:39:35.000 Every year for nine years straight, I moved.

01:39:38.000 That's crazy.

01:39:39.000 It was like that.

01:39:39.000 That was life.

01:39:40.000 Welcome to being a young man in the world trying to figure it out.

01:39:42.000 I think one, yes, it is. 0.79

01:39:44.000 I think Gen Z is a little bit emotionally stunted and they're, uh, them chasing, like, applying for 150 jobs, being able to live paycheck to paycheck.

01:39:53.000 I think they're a little emotionally stunted there. 0.97

01:39:55.000 But also, look at everything in their world.

01:39:57.000 The illegal immigration, right?

01:39:59.000 Taking all the jobs that might be there, DEI.

01:40:02.000 So, even if you are a qualified person, you're getting passed up for someone that's not going to do anything all day.

01:40:07.000 And they're just getting hired based on the color of their skin. 0.62

01:40:09.000 So, you have all these other factors that are actually actively working against the Gen Z population of America. 0.50

01:40:15.000 On top of them also just being this weird kind of new generation that wants everything here and now, you know, is more concerned with the way their life looks than actually how it is and stuff. 0.66

01:40:28.000 So, it's this weird kind of mix of a bunch of different things that. 0.70

01:40:32.000 I think they are causing this phenomenon where Gen Z's just throwing their hands up and they're like, you know what? 1.00

01:40:36.000 I'm done. 0.91

01:40:36.000 The instant gratification, obsession with instant gratification. 0.91

01:40:39.000 Because that's the thing about working shitty jobs is you'll just be there for eight hours waiting for it to be done.

01:40:44.000 And then, like, when it's done, you get to go live your passion for four hours and then pass out.

01:40:49.000 That's what my life was like in my 20s, basically.

01:40:51.000 Not anymore because, I mean, you have to have disposable income to be able to do that.

01:40:54.000 You have to have a passion.

01:40:55.000 That's true.

01:40:56.000 Yeah.

01:40:57.000 But you have to be able to, like, right now, like.

01:40:57.000 That's true.

01:40:59.000 No, no, I didn't have disposable income.

01:41:01.000 I worked hand to mouth, but I. Did have four hours a day where I could make YouTube videos.

01:41:04.000 You can find articles where Gen Z's splurging. 0.64

01:41:06.000 It's not DoorDash. 0.98

01:41:07.000 Like, you'll hear that quip a lot.

01:41:09.000 Oh, they got to stop ordering DoorDash.

01:41:11.000 It's actually just going to the grocery store and buying decent food.

01:41:14.000 Literally. 1.00

01:41:14.000 Like, that's how Gen Z's splurging. 1.00

01:41:16.000 Decent food should be cheaper. 1.00

01:41:17.000 It should be.

01:41:17.000 100%.

01:41:18.000 And everything in life is more expensive, and the wages haven't really kept up.

01:41:22.000 And I'm not the biggest proponent of like, got to raise the minimum wage.

01:41:25.000 It's not that. 0.92

01:41:26.000 It's just these jobs that Gen Z has available to them are not good enough to be able to live off of. 0.99

01:41:32.000 I think it's twofold. 1.00

01:41:33.000 I think.

01:41:34.000 Like it's both sides, right?

01:41:35.000 So, part of it is the economy and the job market and all of that.

01:41:37.000 But the other part of it is that we don't know how they'd be in a good job market.

01:41:41.000 So, the question is, would they still want to go work if these jobs were available or would they then complain about having to work?

01:41:45.000 Everyone says yes.

01:41:46.000 I mean, until they have to do it.

01:41:48.000 Right.

01:41:48.000 That's true.

01:41:49.000 That's different. 1.00

01:41:50.000 And so, I'd be curious to see what a lot of these Gen Zers do when, okay, we have a ton of jobs. 1.00

01:41:55.000 Easy to get a job. 1.00

01:41:56.000 Go get a job.

01:41:57.000 Then, what are they going to complain about?

01:41:58.000 Oh, now I have to go to work and I have to work long hours.

01:42:01.000 Well, yeah, you're an adult.

01:42:01.000 That's what you do.

01:42:02.000 You work and you work long hours and you work unpredictable hours and you do these things at jobs.

01:42:07.000 That's exactly what happens, and you suck it up and you do it because that's what you're paid to do.

01:42:10.000 So I think it's both.

01:42:12.000 I think part of it's the entitlement.

01:42:13.000 I think the other part of it is that, you know, yeah, the economy is not as good as it could be right now.

01:42:19.000 I mean, maybe it's like having a means to an end.

01:42:22.000 Like if you have a dream and a goal and a focus that's bigger and beyond this nine to five gig you're doing or this.

01:42:28.000 Yeah, then you don't sleep a lot and you pursue your get.

01:42:30.000 No, but that's the problem, Ian, because there's a lot of art majors right now that are taking your advice and they can't afford anything.

01:42:38.000 They did pursue their passion.

01:42:40.000 Well, good luck.

01:42:42.000 You're up against a million other people that want it if you're in the arts and you can do it.

01:42:47.000 If you're in the arts, there's another guy you're up against.

01:42:49.000 His name is AI.

01:42:50.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:42:51.000 I can't believe we forgot that one.

01:42:54.000 It's like the latest wrench thrown into everything.

01:42:58.000 That's affecting everybody.

01:42:59.000 But now, instead of a company that's a 21 year old fresh out of college graphic designer, they're just paying $20 a month for ChatGPT.

01:43:07.000 That is something that's actually happening.

01:43:09.000 So these entry level jobs.

01:43:11.000 Are disappearing very quickly.

01:43:12.000 What happened in the Industrial Revolution to all the people that lost their jobs?

01:43:18.000 Here's the thing about the Industrial Revolution and people who were dislocated from that.

01:43:21.000 And it just happened over a much longer time frame.

01:43:26.000 So, you know, steam power supplanted horsepower and wind power.

01:43:26.000 Okay.

01:43:32.000 And then you went to steam locomotives and stationary steam engines.

01:43:36.000 And then they developed ways to power all of the machinery using overhead belts and things like that.

01:43:43.000 And so the type, the pace of industrial change.

01:43:48.000 During the industrial revolution, it's much slower than we're seeing now, much slower.

01:43:53.000 So, I think the societies were better able to absorb it over an extended period of time frame, whereas now it's just it's all collapsed. 0.98

01:44:01.000 There's also entry level jobs going first, and that's what you're telling Gen Z to like put their head down at work. 1.00

01:44:06.000 Those are the jobs that need to get to put their head down at work, and the jobs are disappearing. 0.84

01:44:11.000 There's also less people in the or there were less people in the workplace during the industrial revolution. 0.57

01:44:15.000 Now you have men and women working, you don't have women homemaking at home.

01:44:18.000 So, wasn't there a lot of children working in the industrial revolution?

01:44:21.000 Oh, yeah, they were creating other jobs like that.

01:44:23.000 They didn't have enough labor, so you would have kids doing stuff.

01:44:26.000 Even in West Virginia and Pennsylvania, you had kids working the coal mines, and their job, they were called breaker boys.

01:44:36.000 And they would stand in the coal breaker, and their job was as the processed coal was sliding down in front of them, they would literally reach down into it and pick out the pieces of slate that was not coal and throw it aside.

01:44:48.000 That was their job.

01:44:50.000 They were picking out all the rock in the coal just by hand.

01:44:55.000 The Breaker Boys, and they'd work there until they were old enough to go work in the mines.

01:44:59.000 So, you know, now that's not the case.

01:45:02.000 And if you really want to get into it, it's also like what Tim talks about all the time.

01:45:02.000 But.

01:45:06.000 We've sold our souls as Americans, like not us at this table, but America offshored all their manufacturing.

01:45:14.000 Yes. 0.98

01:45:15.000 Those jobs that we're talking about, they're in China now.

01:45:17.000 It's Chinese people that are working these entry level factory jobs, you know, and slowly working their way up through the company. 1.00

01:45:23.000 It's not Americans anymore. 1.00

01:45:25.000 Man, I'm like, do you think universal basic income is a good move?

01:45:29.000 I mean, that's a big thing.

01:45:31.000 It's Andrew Yang's thing.

01:45:32.000 It's a big thing, like, it depends on which side of the aisle you are, but Gen Z, but a lot of them are just like, yeah, of course it makes sense.

01:45:37.000 Tax these AI companies and use that money to just give everyone a stipend.

01:45:42.000 If it worked perfectly the way its proponents say, yes.

01:45:47.000 But there's a devil in the details there, and I don't know if it'll work perfectly.

01:45:52.000 And even universal basic income will not work for everybody because some people just really want to work.

01:45:59.000 And it's also if I'm selling a car and I know you're getting a thousand bucks a month, it's just going to raise the cost of these costs.

01:46:06.000 Of course.

01:46:07.000 You know, everyone walking around is now a thousand dollars richer.

01:46:11.000 Of course.

01:46:11.000 And how do you, you can put laws on the books, but come on, look at what happens after hurricanes and gas stations down south.

01:46:17.000 You're paying 10 bucks for a bottle of water.

01:46:19.000 And yeah, some people get in trouble, but the vast majority of it goes unpunished.

01:46:23.000 I asked about the UBI because it feels like the Ponzi scheme is toppling right now.

01:46:29.000 The job economy, like, Where's the money coming from?

01:46:33.000 Well, we're borrowing it at interest.

01:46:35.000 We owe more than we can accrue as a people, as a government, borrowing from the Federal Reserve.

01:46:43.000 And the whole job economy thing is sort of a fallacy created by the Federal Reserve system to make you think that the only way to survive is if you get a job and work doing a thing.

01:46:57.000 It used to be like, hey, is the room clean?

01:47:00.000 Is there food in the room?

01:47:01.000 Did you hunt?

01:47:01.000 Okay, we're good.

01:47:02.000 We don't need to go out and like clock in and get a job to get paid by a system because we have everything we need to survive.

01:47:09.000 So maybe, maybe the whole idea of the job economy thing is falling apart.

01:47:12.000 I think it is.

01:47:13.000 The whole idea of like, I'll pay you to dig a hole and then I'll pay you to fill it back up.

01:47:16.000 And then you guys pay me back the money at interest.

01:47:18.000 So I'm a little richer and nothing really got done.

01:47:21.000 We've seen a complete resurgence in homesteading over the last 10 years.

01:47:24.000 So I mean, there's more and more people are interested in that instead of like, instead of saying, Hey, I'm going to go work for a company that may fire me in 10 years and whatever, they're going to invest in land and build a household over time on that land, live off that land as much as they can, and use barter, as you're saying, for the things that they don't have and, you know, trade what they do have with another person nearby who's got.

01:47:47.000 A tractor, hey, can you dig me this ditch?

01:47:49.000 I need to put in a new septic system and I'll, you know, I'll give you goat milk for a year or whatever.

01:47:54.000 I mean, there's all sorts of ways you can do that.

01:47:58.000 But I think that checking out of the modern rat race is difficult, especially when you're looking at this for four or five hours a day.

01:48:11.000 It takes a lot of conviction.

01:48:12.000 And I don't know that everybody has that conviction.

01:48:15.000 And I think, you know, people should explore the options we talked about in the trades.

01:48:20.000 Because there are certain physical jobs that are going to be the last ones to disappear in the United States.

01:48:26.000 And those are contractors.

01:48:28.000 Those are.

01:48:30.000 We were moving towards a gig economy, ultimately.

01:48:33.000 And that's sort of what being a contractor is.

01:48:35.000 That is sort of what the trades are.

01:48:37.000 It's how many cars did you work on today?

01:48:39.000 How many houses did you visit to work on their plumbing?

01:48:42.000 And that's what we're moving towards.

01:48:45.000 It's very dystopian.

01:48:46.000 I got into investments.

01:48:47.000 I don't know if you guys invest a lot.

01:48:48.000 And I was told as a kid, growing up blue collar, like, never mention, no one ever mentioned investing.

01:48:53.000 It was like my dad's.

01:48:54.000 Retirement fund, it would go to like a 401k or some guy would invest, you know, 10% of his income.

01:48:59.000 But once I started actually investing, it's, I guess it's risky.

01:49:03.000 I, my, my money just started skyrocketing relative to what I could.

01:49:07.000 And I, at first, I was aiming at residuals because I thought that's the way you want to, you want to, you want your money to be coming in in the background while you're doing what you love to do.

01:49:15.000 So build things that sell while you're not around, do projects that people will pay for when you're not around. 0.83

01:49:21.000 And that could be, that could be why you're seeing 35% of Gen Z still living at home with their.

01:49:26.000 Parents, yeah, they're not paying rent and they're using that capital that they would have been spending on housing to invest, would so, or maybe to save and buy land.

01:49:33.000 Investing is great, but is it risky?

01:49:35.000 Because, like, the Great Depression came along at the end of the 20s, and all those people that had been investing with run on the banks, they were investing with money they didn't have, they were borrowing money, they're taking out what's called margins on their own investments to invest more, correct?

01:49:48.000 To try and, um, I guess, snowball their investments, and then when they leverage, yeah, when the stocks drop in value, they have to pay that money back, which they don't have, so they.

01:49:58.000 Are the stock taken from them and they lose all their stock and they still owe money on top of it?

01:50:03.000 That's where the depression came from people investing on margins.

01:50:06.000 So I've done that once in my life, it was very risky and I immediately paid it out and paid it back.

01:50:10.000 What's uh, what's bitcoin at today?

01:50:13.000 I'm not, I guess it's still below six.

01:50:15.000 Is it still below six?

01:50:16.000 I checked, I checked two days ago, it was like 58, right?

01:50:19.000 Dude, I think the world economic market is it's 60 60k on the nose right now, right?

01:50:23.000 So yeah, there's always risk in investing.

01:50:26.000 I can remember, I remember people thinking they missed the boat when it was at 108 or something like that.

01:50:31.000 Dang, I missed the boat.

01:50:32.000 And here we're all the way back down.

01:50:33.000 I remember when was that 19?

01:50:34.000 I had a coworker tell me not to touch it.

01:50:36.000 We do have some questions.

01:50:37.000 We could all go back and say one word.

01:50:39.000 It would be Bitcoin.

01:50:40.000 Yeah.

01:50:41.000 Yeah.

01:50:41.000 You got a Discord?

01:50:43.000 We do.

01:50:43.000 We got a question.

01:50:44.000 Okay.

01:50:45.000 We're going to take some questions here.

01:50:46.000 This one's from Stork.

01:50:48.000 The question for the panel How are you saying AI is still going to replace everyone when its biggest cheerleader said he was wrong and dipped out of the country?

01:50:58.000 Meanwhile, companies are dropping AI because of API costs tripling, quadrupling, and it still isn't profitable.

01:51:04.000 All right, so I'll say one thing about that we're still in the infancy of the AI industry.

01:51:11.000 And as more AI capability is rolled out, I think we can legitimately expect the cost of it to go down.

01:51:20.000 Absolutely.

01:51:20.000 And we think that the companies, the early adopters of AI, are right now getting AI at its most expensive.

01:51:30.000 And simultaneously at its lowest capability, because every month it will be more capable than the previous month.

01:51:38.000 And over time, the cost will decline.

01:51:41.000 And so I would argue that AI costs are going to go down, and effectiveness of AI is going to go up, and companies will learn how to use it better and where it can best be deployed.

01:51:53.000 And look at all these companies like Micron, or SanDisk, that have just skyrocketed in value since this AI boom.

01:52:02.000 Right, what are they doing with that money?

01:52:03.000 Well, they're going to put it into increasing their capacity to manufacture more chips, um, and more components for the AI infrastructure.

01:52:11.000 And I mean, you see, XAI is buying like large data centers and uh, I think power plants across the country.

01:52:19.000 So, as this infrastructure really starts to get established and it starts to get fleshed out, the costs are absolutely going to go down.

01:52:25.000 We're going to figure out as a society, and the market's going to decide what's really necessary is Claude coding really necessary for the average person versus Chat GBT image generation?

01:52:36.000 Well, we don't know.

01:52:36.000 We're just kind of playing with it and seeing what works for people.

01:52:39.000 But it will, you know, certain tools will get eliminated, like ChatGPT or OpenAI got rid of Sora.

01:52:46.000 They're like, no one's really using our video model.

01:52:48.000 It was cool, but no one's using it.

01:52:49.000 We're going to get rid of it.

01:52:50.000 But people still very much like the image generation, or people love to vibe code these days.

01:52:55.000 So what you said was best.

01:52:59.000 We're in the infancy, it's only going to get crazier.

01:53:02.000 But you'll never be able to replicate my singing voice.

01:53:04.000 True.

01:53:04.000 What's that?

01:53:05.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:53:06.000 Actually, no, it's true.

01:53:07.000 It's not true.

01:53:08.000 Given enough high quality samples of your singing voice and enough time and enough computing power, your singing voice will be replicated.

01:53:16.000 I don't believe that.

01:53:17.000 No, it absolutely will.

01:53:18.000 I've tried it all day.

01:53:21.000 It will be replicated from a standpoint of being able to imitate the things you have never done.

01:53:27.000 What it will not be able to do is innovate along your progression of talent and skill and put something new into.

01:53:38.000 But you'll be able to take what you've done and recreate that type of.

01:53:42.000 That type of environment, but it's not going to be able to say, Let's say you have a flash of inspiration.

01:53:46.000 I want to take this verse in a different way than I've done previously.

01:53:51.000 Don't expect the AI to have that type of creativity.

01:53:54.000 That's actually what I think it is.

01:53:55.000 But expect it to have a great mimicry.

01:53:57.000 But this question was really about jobs.

01:54:00.000 So we're talking about artistic now, and that's different.

01:54:03.000 But I think it's like we're talking.

01:54:06.000 It's here to stay.

01:54:07.000 It's a possibility.

01:54:08.000 It's not going away.

01:54:09.000 You're right.

01:54:09.000 It's like this art forming, dude.

01:54:11.000 You see these machines that are.

01:54:12.000 Farming using artificial, they know like what the soil content is, where to plant the specific seeds with lasers.

01:54:18.000 And sorry, that technology is going to get cheaper.

01:54:20.000 And now, actually, it might be the gateway for Gen Z and homesteading.

01:54:23.000 Hey, you can use a new AI powered farming tractor, right?

01:54:27.000 And now, this allows a play farm person, yeah.

01:54:30.000 Will it get cheaper though?

01:54:31.000 Because they're still not profitable, and they well, that's what I'm saying.

01:54:34.000 They're going to figure out money, what is making money.

01:54:36.000 The cost of operating is going to go down as the industry continues to expand.

01:54:41.000 And so, like, we're in our infancy.

01:54:43.000 If you look at Suno.

01:54:44.000 Two years ago, all the music being made sounded like a robot voice.

01:54:48.000 Now it sounds like a real voice.

01:54:49.000 It's just, it's not there.

01:54:50.000 The human aspect isn't there.

01:54:52.000 What about five years from now?

01:54:53.000 What about 10?

01:54:54.000 But you also see certain companies adapting too.

01:54:57.000 Like there's a Japanese toilet manufacturer, Toto, and they're famous for making toilets and they have expertise in ceramics.

01:55:05.000 Do you know what they're making now?

01:55:07.000 Chips.

01:55:08.000 They went from making toilets to memory chips.

01:55:11.000 And because they're doing that, their stock has exploded.

01:55:14.000 I'm looking at it real quick.

01:55:15.000 The cost of SD cards and like.

01:55:17.000 So, I mean, you're seeing adaptation not just on a personal level, you're seeing adaptation on a corporate level.

01:55:17.000 Yeah.

01:55:24.000 This is an example of somebody who was.

01:55:26.000 Entrenched in physical economy.

01:55:29.000 We're making basically appliances for bathrooms, and now we're going to go high tech.

01:55:35.000 And it paid out for them.

01:55:36.000 I mean, triple.

01:55:37.000 Their stock is up triple.

01:55:38.000 Allbirds, the shoe company, switched to AI.

01:55:40.000 I don't know in what capacity their stock went to the moon because they're like, we're switching to AI.

01:55:46.000 We've got another question.

01:55:47.000 Go ahead.

01:55:48.000 From Quit Shady of Shoal.

01:55:52.000 This is what will it take for the housing prices to go down?

01:55:55.000 It seems like a pipe dream for a household or for a five household family.

01:56:00.000 To live off of single income.

01:56:02.000 I've been working on a government job for 13 years at a government job.

01:56:07.000 Trump needs to.

01:56:07.000 Over a minimum wage, still living with my parents.

01:56:10.000 Trump needs to sign the Housing Act.

01:56:12.000 It was very popular bipartisan support.

01:56:16.000 It will cap institutional investors at owning 350 homes.

01:56:19.000 That's it.

01:56:20.000 Well, what is, I guess this is kind of to this question, but what do you guys think about him kind of holding it over Democrats right now saying sign the Save Act or this?

01:56:27.000 Like, I could just not.

01:56:28.000 I mean, I get why he's doing it, but I'm for the answer to the question on like how to bring housing prices down.

01:56:32.000 Sign that.

01:56:33.000 That's the first step.

01:56:33.000 Yeah.

01:56:34.000 I mean, do that. 0.89

01:56:35.000 Continue with making sure that only American citizens and people who should be here are here renting the houses or buying the houses. 0.81

01:56:41.000 Or getting loans. 0.90

01:56:42.000 Or getting loans.

01:56:43.000 Those are the first two things.

01:56:45.000 Continue to innovate with materials.

01:56:49.000 We were looking at, there's a concrete company in Frederick, Maryland, not far from here.

01:56:53.000 We were looking at that has like a new form of concrete.

01:56:55.000 Super concrete or something.

01:56:55.000 What was that?

01:56:56.000 Yeah.

01:56:57.000 Innovate with building materials and find a way to make the houses more durable but cheaper.

01:57:02.000 I mean, attack the problem of housing, also, I think is very important.

01:57:06.000 Attack it from the demand side. 0.80

01:57:08.000 And for that, mass deportations. 0.94

01:57:11.000 If you don't belong here, it's time to go. 0.82

01:57:14.000 You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. 0.57

01:57:18.000 So we've got tens of millions of illegal occupants of our country inside the United States, and they're renting homes and they're owning homes, and that is driving up the cost of housing.

01:57:31.000 So, to the viewer's question of how do you lower the cost of housing, one of the ways you do that is by lowering the demand for it, and you do that. 0.52

01:57:40.000 By making it as impossible as we can for illegal aliens to continue to reside in the United States and have it be financially viable for them, make themselves deported. 0.89

01:57:52.000 Do those and build, build, build. 0.97

01:57:54.000 If there's an abundance of homes, it's simple supply and demand.

01:57:57.000 I mean, the prices will go down.

01:57:59.000 So, to piggyback off our question before this, if you were, and this is from E, if you were 17 or 18 years old now, what would you be learning and trying to get into that career field because of AI job displacement?

01:58:13.000 I have two daughters, 15 and 17, and I'm not too sure what is a safe bet for kids their age.

01:58:18.000 This is an easier question for boys.

01:58:20.000 Becoming an electrician? 0.98

01:58:21.000 Electrician for women. 1.00

01:58:22.000 For women, especially.

01:58:23.000 Electrician is a physical trade that is not so much how much can you lift, how much can you, you know, are you not doing like physical labor so much in terms of, you know, expense.

01:58:37.000 How am I trying to say this?

01:58:39.000 You're not using your muscles, you're using your brain.

01:58:41.000 You're pulling wires, you're working safe, you're maintaining the standards and not.

01:58:48.000 You learn the trade in electricity and you apply that to the job at hand.

01:58:53.000 And it's not so much about you walking on a beam or laying up forms for concrete.

01:58:59.000 So, trades for me and electrician is one that's.

01:59:02.000 Especially with the emergence of AI, they need electricians at every single data center.

01:59:07.000 Every single data center.

01:59:08.000 And we were talking a few weeks ago, Ian, about just like investments in general.

01:59:11.000 And I was like, well, when there's an emerging technology, a lot of things that kind of gets ignored is all the other stuff that supports that emerging technology.

01:59:19.000 So, like electricians is one of those things.

01:59:21.000 You have all these data centers going up.

01:59:23.000 Well, how does a data center get built?

01:59:24.000 You need a lot of electricians, right?

01:59:27.000 Welders is another good one, you know?

01:59:29.000 So, you know, try to look at the emerging industry and technologies and find ways that can kind of support that.

01:59:36.000 And if it's not the trades, I would recommend there's always a need for nurses.

01:59:41.000 That's true. 0.94

01:59:41.000 Always. 0.94

01:59:42.000 Always a need for nurses. 1.00

01:59:43.000 That tends to be a very female dominated field. 1.00

01:59:46.000 They're always needed. 1.00

01:59:47.000 It does require some schooling, but there is upward mobility in that job as well.

01:59:51.000 So, and there's a lot of different specialties you can go into.

01:59:54.000 You can be, you know, like ICU, you could do ER, you can do NICU.

01:59:58.000 You could just do any kind of like OBGYN stuff, so many different fields.

02:00:02.000 So, if they're not like weirded out or you know, don't like gore, then that's the one the first thing that came to my mind was probably nursing.

02:00:09.000 And one of the great things about nursing, too, is just like the other trades, is it gives you something that you can do that's portable, you're not learning a skill that's specifically tied to your geographic area.

02:00:18.000 So, if you need to move to the northwest, you can do it, and if you need to move to the east coast, you can do it because we're travel nursing, you make so much money being a travel nurse.

02:00:27.000 Oh my god, having someone in the house that knows how to stitch a Wounds is that's also good.

02:00:31.000 That's also good for the mom to be able to break fix a broken bone or stop a kid from bleeding out.

02:00:36.000 Is like good lord.

02:00:38.000 My dad was a paramedic, so I just kind of took it for granted that somebody in the house could set a bone if someone broke.

02:00:43.000 All right, so I think we're approaching the end here.

02:00:46.000 So, why don't we, as typical Tim would at the end of the night, invite each of you to say a little outro and say where you can be found on social media or wherever it is that you feel is your best contact point?

02:00:58.000 Sure, you guys go to timcast.comslash discord, join our members only server.

02:01:03.000 You can watch.

02:01:04.000 These conversations happen live.

02:01:05.000 You can follow me personally at Olivia Dasovic, Instagram, and X.

02:01:09.000 But I cannot stress enough go to the Discord, join us.

02:01:12.000 We have a lot of fun, Raymond.

02:01:13.000 I second that the Discord is a great community, it's a great place to be and hang out.

02:01:18.000 Uh, and I'm on X at the Raymond G Stanley at X.

02:01:21.000 Yeah, we did a little discord.

02:01:23.000 I'm just gonna say this, Kellen, before go ahead and give it to me.

02:01:26.000 Uh, we were doing the Discord last week.

02:01:29.000 Yeah, that was awesome, dude.

02:01:30.000 So much fun.

02:01:30.000 Play music.

02:01:31.000 Josie was there, Josie the Redhead.

02:01:32.000 Josie will be there tonight.

02:01:33.000 Oh my gosh, of course.

02:01:34.000 Um, after you watch this and it finishes at 10 p.m.

02:01:37.000 Go into the Discord.

02:01:38.000 We're going to have Nick's order tonight on the Josie show.

02:01:41.000 We are taping it live.

02:01:43.000 I will be there.

02:01:44.000 Josie will be there.

02:01:45.000 Maybe Raymond shows up.

02:01:46.000 Who knows what's going to happen tonight?

02:01:48.000 Brixie could show up. 0.99

02:01:49.000 He's been in our server in the past.

02:01:51.000 We're going to get you set back up in there.

02:01:53.000 So, yes, that is right after this.

02:01:55.000 Go to the Discord, watch the Josie show, ask Nick some questions.

02:01:59.000 It's going to be a good time.

02:02:00.000 Follow me at Kellen PDL and follow Timcast everything.

02:02:05.000 If you had a question that we didn't get to today, hop in tonight at 10 p.m.

02:02:10.000 Yeah, you're going to simulcast Josie and the Pride match.

02:02:14.000 All right, that's what you're going to do.

02:02:15.000 You're going to get both of those.

02:02:17.000 You're going to do some dual screen action going.

02:02:20.000 Ask your questions there.

02:02:21.000 This was fun, guys.

02:02:23.000 I feel like we didn't get to a lot of questions, but the conversation was so good in the second half of the show.

02:02:27.000 We got to more I thought we were going to get to, but there was definitely a few more in there.

02:02:32.000 Yeah, this went by so fast.

02:02:34.000 I realized it was like, wait, we've got to get to questions now.

02:02:36.000 We only had like 19 minutes left.

02:02:39.000 But yeah, man, Brick Sue, thank you for coming.

02:02:41.000 Thank you for hosting.

02:02:42.000 Everyone else, thank you for being here.

02:02:43.000 I'm part of the show.

02:02:44.000 Well, it's been enjoyable.

02:02:46.000 You know, it's a little bit of trepidation, but, you know, it's, I don't know, it was daunting.

02:02:53.000 I think I told you I felt like I'm a passenger in a 70s movie when the stewardess comes out and says, Can anybody here fly a plane?

02:03:02.000 We need somebody to step in.

02:03:03.000 So I was a little nervous, but I think I did all right.

02:03:07.000 Seamless transition.

02:03:08.000 If you'd like to see more of me, you can find me on X at brick underscore suit.

02:03:12.000 So just remember brick suit, brick underscore suit.

02:03:15.000 It's my primary social media.

02:03:17.000 And if you're walking around the National Mall in the next week or so, You might see me there, but just look for the glasses and the mustache because 100% polyester doesn't work in Washington, D.C. heat and humidity.

02:03:29.000 All right.

02:03:30.000 All righty.

02:03:30.000 All right.

02:03:31.000 Thanks, everyone, for tuning in.

02:03:32.000 We'll be back Monday.

02:03:34.000 Monday.

02:03:34.000 It's going to be hot.

02:03:36.000 It's going to be hot.

02:03:36.000 Oh, cool.

02:03:37.000 Catch you later.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 26, 2026

Mamdani CELEBRATES NYC Rent Freeze, This Will DESTROY The City | Timcast IRL

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