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00:00:00.000 So, I guess the big news is that Donald Trump won the primaries, but it's not really news

00:00:19.000 because who saw that coming?

00:00:21.000 The actual big news right now, which I will immediately start the show by saying doubt, is a man claiming he was hired by the Ukrainian government to assassinate Tucker Carlson.

00:00:32.000 The video is going massively viral.

00:00:35.000 Apparently Russian intelligence captured him or anti-terror captured him.

00:00:39.000 I gotta say, I doubt it.

00:00:42.000 But Charlie Kirk brings up that there was a propagandist for Ukraine who actually had a video saying one of the Kremlin's favorite propagandists will pay for their crimes very soon back in September.

00:00:52.000 Nothing really happened after that, so maybe.

00:00:55.000 Unless, of course, this is a reference to Gonzalo Lira.

00:00:58.000 Not entirely sure, but I think it's fair to say Doubt.

00:01:01.000 Healthy skepticism because it's a big propaganda game in war and it's easy for Russia to come out and claim, oh look, Ukraine's trying to kill Tucker because Tucker was just there.

00:01:10.000 Apparently they're going to plant a car bomb.

00:01:12.000 But we'll talk about that.

00:01:13.000 The real, the actual news in terms of assassination attempts is not necessarily a real assassination attempt, but Don Jr.

00:01:20.000 had hazmat crews descend upon his home because of death threats and white powder being sent to him.

00:01:27.000 Man!

00:01:27.000 It's the end of February.

00:01:29.000 Come on.

00:01:30.000 You know, guys, things are always kind of chill in the winter, and if it's still winter and this is what's happening, I fear, and I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that summer will get absolutely crazy.

00:01:43.000 Plus, one of the most viral stories of the past weekend is an airman, active duty, who self-immolated in front of the Israeli embassy while screaming free Palestine and said that he will no longer be complicit in genocide.

00:01:43.000 So we're gonna talk about that.

00:01:58.000 This story is going massively viral with many on the right saying he was mentally ill, many on the left saying that he is a Christian martyr.

00:02:05.000 Defending the colonized people of Palestine. 0.79

00:02:08.000 I'm not gonna waste time for you guys. 0.97

00:02:11.000 I articulated quite a bit that I think he was mentally ill.

00:02:14.000 And I think if you're trapped in the online world and you don't touch grass, you might actually take your own life because of these things you're seeing on the internet.

00:02:22.000 That would imply that you are suffering from something that needs to be diagnosed and treated so that you don't end your own life.

00:02:30.000 But hey, you know what?

00:02:31.000 Let's talk about that.

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00:04:39.000 What's going on, everybody?

00:04:40.000 Thanks for having me, Tim.

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00:06:43.000 Let's go!

00:06:44.000 We have this tweet from Kaneko the Great.

00:06:46.000 I've actually seen this tweeted out by several people, including Mario Nawfal and retweeted by Charlie Kirk.

00:06:51.000 Kaneko says breaking Russian counter-terrorism unit thwarts assassination attempt on Tucker Carlson.

00:06:56.000 I'm gonna pause really quick before I read through this and just say personally, doubt.

00:07:02.000 I don't know how much I really believe this is a true story, but far be it from me to know and be able to assert or be the arbiter of truth.

00:07:10.000 Let me just read for you.

00:07:12.000 He writes, a Moscow man was arrested for allegedly accepting payment from Ukrainian intelligence to plant an explosive on Tucker Carlson's vehicle, targeting the American journalist during his interview with Putin.

00:07:23.000 Quote, in November 2023, I was recruited by the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

00:07:28.000 I was trained in working with special communications, collecting and detonating explosive devices.

00:07:33.000 On January 31st, I received a task from the curator to pick up an explosive device from a hiding place and use it to blow up a car.

00:07:40.000 What was promised to you?

00:07:41.000 Quote, $4,000.

00:07:43.000 Where was the explosive device supposed to be used?

00:07:46.000 Quote, In the underground parking of the Four Seasons Hotel in Moscow, I was supposed to pick up the explosive device from a hiding place and place it under the car.

00:07:54.000 Who was it targeting?

00:07:55.000 I wasn't told.

00:07:57.000 Do you know who the target was now?

00:07:58.000 Yes, American journalist Tucker Carlson.

00:08:00.000 What went wrong?

00:08:01.000 I was detained at the preparation stage.

00:08:03.000 So, you have this video.

00:08:07.000 And, you know, I don't know how true it is.

00:08:14.000 The source, apparently, is a website called The Intel Drop that I'm not particularly familiar with, though many people have been citing this.

00:08:23.000 I do want to point out, there was a blogger, an online personality, who was assassinated.

00:08:28.000 You guys remember this story?

00:08:29.000 When he was given a bust, like a sculpture of his head or something.

00:08:35.000 And it was placed in a bag at an event where he was speaking, and then there was a bomb and it exploded and actually killed a bunch of people.

00:08:41.000 Wow.

00:08:42.000 So the idea that there are pro-Ukrainian forces using explosive devices to assassinate opposition media is an established fact.

00:08:50.000 Whether or not this guy's telling the truth, I honestly have no idea.

00:08:53.000 I don't know if anybody does.

00:08:54.000 I don't know what the intel drop is.

00:08:56.000 Well, Tucker's on the Ukraine list, right?

00:08:59.000 Of people that they want.

00:09:01.000 Well, there's like a list they're accusing and many people refer to it as a hit list.

00:09:06.000 I think that... Here's the funny thing.

00:09:08.000 This is the way the mainstream media works.

00:09:10.000 There is a list produced by Ukrainians and supported by the Ukrainian government that has a bunch of anti-Ukraine personalities and people they don't like.

00:09:19.000 Right.

00:09:19.000 Some of those people have gotten murdered.

00:09:22.000 So people who are, you know, critical of Ukraine's government say it's a hit list and they're saying it, you know, kind of like, essentially, this is what they're doing.

00:09:30.000 They're creating a list of targets.

00:09:31.000 The media then comes out and says, no, it isn't.

00:09:31.000 Yeah.

00:09:33.000 That's a lie.

00:09:34.000 That's fake news.

00:09:35.000 However, they also claim that Libs of TikTok is effectively producing a hit list.

00:09:38.000 They say that she's creating a target by mentioning these people.

00:09:41.000 You can't have it both ways.

00:09:43.000 If the Ukrainian government is listing a bunch of people they view as enemies of the state, it is substantially different from someone on the internet posting other people's public posts.

00:09:54.000 No, no, no.

00:09:55.000 I agree, but that's what I'm saying.

00:09:57.000 So Ukraine has this list.

00:09:59.000 People on this list have ended up not here anymore.

00:10:02.000 Why is it such a far-fetched thing to say that they don't want Tucker or they did not want Tucker Carlson to interview Putin?

00:10:09.000 I think it could be true.

00:10:10.000 I do too.

00:10:12.000 I think it absolutely could be true.

00:10:13.000 It's hard to know because it's information warfare.

00:10:18.000 Putin also has interests in getting Americans to believe that Ukraine is their enemy and would kill an American citizen as well.

00:10:25.000 So it's hard to know for sure.

00:10:27.000 It really is.

00:10:27.000 And you're gonna have to just decide what you think makes the most sense.

00:10:30.000 But you should also understand Vladimir Putin does not have your best interests in mind.

00:10:33.000 He hates this country.

00:10:35.000 And, like, I can understand criticisms of the US military-industrial complex and the things NATO has done.

00:10:41.000 But Vladimir Putin's not going to draw a distinction between the American people who support Trump and America in general.

00:10:47.000 It is a whole body he is opposed to, so his interests would ultimately see Americans suffer.

00:10:53.000 So I'm not going to trust things coming out of Russia.

00:10:55.000 That being said, Charlie Kirk tweeted this.

00:10:57.000 A Moscow man named Vassilyev Pyotr Alekseevich, probably pronouncing that wrong, claims he was recruited and trained by Ukrainian intelligence to plant an explosive device in the underground parking lot of Four Seasons in Moscow to assassinate an unknown target, who he later learned was Tucker Carlson.

00:11:12.000 He says it's impossible from the outside to verify the credibility of this claim.

00:11:15.000 But remember this.

00:11:17.000 Remember the September 2023 clip from Sarah Ashton Cirillo, a transgender former U.S.

00:11:22.000 soldier who acts as an English-speaking spokesman for the Ukrainian military.

00:11:26.000 Quote, next week, the teeth of the Russian devils will gnash even harder and their rabid mouths will foam in uncontrollable frenzy as the world will see a favorite Kremlin propagandist pay for their crimes. 0.96

00:11:39.000 This puppet of Putin is only the first. 0.78

00:11:41.000 Russia's war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down and justice will be served.

00:11:47.000 He says, I speculated then that Tucker Carlson was at the top of their hit list.

00:11:50.000 Did Ukraine just attempt to make good on this threat? 0.77

00:11:53.000 Now, of course, you're going to hear from corporate press, the mainstream media saying it's unverified, unfounded, don't believe it.

00:12:00.000 Charlie Kirk makes a good point.

00:12:01.000 The only sentence that matters is this.

00:12:03.000 Russia's war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down and justice will be served.

00:12:08.000 All.

00:12:08.000 Yeah.

00:12:10.000 If this is a spokesperson for the Ukrainian military saying the people they view as Russian propagandists will be hunted down and then someone comes out later saying they were hired to go after Tucker Carlson, I'm like, well, I mean, you're the one who claimed you would be doing it.

00:12:24.000 Yeah.

00:12:26.000 I mean, it's an interesting timing, too, because Russia's on the eve of a presidential election.

00:12:31.000 It's like March 15th is the Russian election.

00:12:33.000 So all of the spinning that could happen right now is sort of hitting a critical fever pitch that we don't experience the same way because we're on a November timeline.

00:12:41.000 Right.

00:12:42.000 Whereas for Putin, this is the final, I mean, what, final two, three weeks before he faces an election where I assume he'll be reelected.

00:12:49.000 Yeah, like it's really an election.

00:12:50.000 But for everyone else, you know, that's not the only election that's happening in Russia.

00:12:54.000 It's an interesting time.

00:12:55.000 Well, the biggest thing that people have to remember, and we talk about this on our show a lot, is, you know, Ukraine is not this beacon of light and this beacon of hope in the world, and neither is Russia. 0.85

00:13:06.000 Nobody's saying, yay Putin!

00:13:07.000 You know, like, Putin's awesome, you know.

00:13:10.000 No, Putin has a special place when he dies, I believe, but Ukraine is just as bad in their ways as well.

00:13:17.000 And so there are two bad countries that we're mixed in this forever war that they're trying to get us into between the two of them.

00:13:24.000 So, but back to the point, I absolutely believe that this could be true.

00:13:27.000 You know, I wonder which circle of hell Putin will find himself in.

00:13:31.000 Off the top of my head, I thought the seventh.

00:13:33.000 The one with Adolf and the pineapples.

00:13:35.000 The little Mickey.

00:13:37.000 You know?

00:13:39.000 So, if you're familiar with the circles of hell, the seventh was those who are violent towards others.

00:13:44.000 But I have to imagine that someone like Putin has certainly betrayed the people around him, for which he would be reserved the deepest level of help.

00:13:51.000 Where I believe you are what?

00:13:52.000 Frozen in ice and chewed in the mouth of the devil for eternity? 0.65

00:13:54.000 Is that what it is?

00:13:55.000 I don't know.

00:13:55.000 It's been a long time since I read Dante's Inferno.

00:13:59.000 But, um, look.

00:14:01.000 You know, you said there's no one, but generally speaking there's no one, but there really are weird fringe people on Axe who are going to defend Putin.

00:14:10.000 Oh yeah, there's always weirdos out there, absolutely.

00:14:14.000 Sane human beings that pay attention to anything.

00:14:16.000 I think the issue for us is, you know, under Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin's like, he backs off.

00:14:21.000 Why?

00:14:22.000 Well, Trump crushes ISIS.

00:14:24.000 Trump did arm Ukraine! 0.75

00:14:26.000 And this is what a lot of people need to understand because the left, you know, libertarians anti-war people are like, you know, Putin would have invaded.

00:14:32.000 Trump was arming Ukraine.

00:14:33.000 I'm like, yeah, but why?

00:14:35.000 Why did Putin back off for the four years that Donald Trump was president?

00:14:39.000 He's amassing his forces, taking Crimea under Obama.

00:14:43.000 Trump gets in and then he stops.

00:14:44.000 Yeah, Trump's got a bigger button.

00:14:46.000 It's not so, yes, but I do think Putin thought, let's see who Trump is.

00:14:51.000 What did Trump do?

00:14:52.000 He crushes ISIS.

00:14:53.000 Yeah.

00:14:53.000 And now Putin's like, maybe we can actually find peace with this guy.

00:14:57.000 Maybe he's not going to to try and crush us the way the right Russia fears the uniparty establishment will try to crush NATO.

00:15:05.000 I'm sorry, crush Russia, because now we're learning What was it today? 0.99

00:15:08.000 I forgot what I was watching.

00:15:10.000 It was Hungary.

00:15:11.000 I think it was Hungary saying Ukraine will absolutely be in NATO.

00:15:16.000 And they're paving the way for all of this to happen.

00:15:18.000 Now you take a look at the map and Russia's almost every border on Europe is NATO.

00:15:22.000 Yeah.

00:15:23.000 One unified military power.

00:15:26.000 And based on what we've already seen, with Chuck Schumer, Adam Kinzinger, and the rest of them saying we must crush Russia, Russia's gonna be like, it's war then.

00:15:34.000 You get Donald Trump, and Donald Trump, what did he say at his rally?

00:15:37.000 He's like, they don't pay, I would tell Russia to do whatever the hell they want.

00:15:40.000 Yeah, and they tried to crucify him for that, but he has a point.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, they don't pull their part, they don't pull their weight.

00:15:47.000 whether it was a lot of the help of with your like what i'm sad i kinda feel like if trump is

00:15:51.000 elected by repose gonna say okay what you doing

00:15:53.000 the trumps gonna say i don't want war i don't care for whatever this dispute is

00:15:57.000 america's insurance borders we're gonna boost our economy were a drill for oil 0.98

00:16:01.000 russia do whatever the hell you want what he said that interview uh...

00:16:05.000 I can't remember who it was, but Trump talked about this specifically and they said, well, you know, what's your goal between Russia and Ukraine?

00:16:12.000 I just want people to stop dying.

00:16:15.000 That's my goal.

00:16:15.000 I just want people, which I think is the best answer anyone's said in a long time.

00:16:20.000 I just want people to stop dying.

00:16:22.000 You know, you've got Zelensky out there just the other day now talking about that 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died.

00:16:30.000 Where?

00:16:31.000 I want to see where all of that is.

00:16:33.000 I don't believe that for one second.

00:16:35.000 You know what I thought when I heard about all these Ukrainian soldiers dying?

00:16:38.000 What?

00:16:39.000 Who cares?

00:16:40.000 Well, I mean, yeah, that's the point too, but my point is, where's the proof?

00:16:44.000 We've got all these videos coming out of Israel instantly, and this Ukraine-Russian war has been going on for two years.

00:16:50.000 I've been to war.

00:16:51.000 This isn't how it works.

00:16:53.000 That's not how it happens.

00:16:55.000 I don't like Ukrainian soldiers dying in war, but I also know that ain't nobody in this country is talking about, I don't know, Sudan, or Burma.

00:17:04.000 There are so many regions on this planet where there's active war and death, and for some reason it's Oh, no.

00:17:09.000 Oh, the poor people of Ukraine.

00:17:10.000 Look, the poor people of everywhere.

00:17:12.000 Yeah, there's evil everywhere.

00:17:13.000 Relentless murder of women and children everywhere.

00:17:16.000 But we're super focused on what the elites want us to be focused on right now, which is Russia and Ukraine.

00:17:22.000 I'm pretty upset with how, like, NATO forces destabilized Libya and brought back the slave trade. 0.69

00:17:28.000 So when NATO starts expanding, Not a fan of where this is going to lead to.

00:17:33.000 Yeah.

00:17:34.000 And then what do you get?

00:17:34.000 You get a mass influx of refugees, economic migrants and criminals flooding into Europe.

00:17:41.000 Yeah.

00:17:41.000 And now, you know, it's really fascinating about the immigration crisis in the US is everything I'm hearing that we've been talking about was said about Europe like six, seven years ago.

00:17:50.000 Yeah, they're always about 10 years ahead of us on what's going to happen.

00:17:55.000 Man, here we are.

00:17:55.000 What stuff?

00:17:56.000 What do you mean?

00:17:57.000 Well, so, you know, six or seven years ago across Europe, You had economic migrants from Sub-Saharan Africa traveling up through Africa to Libya, where they would be transported into Europe.

00:18:12.000 Now, it's still happening, mind you.

00:18:14.000 But it was massive waves of boats, and there were a lot of people coming from Afghanistan and Syria, but they were substantially less.

00:18:22.000 There was the Western, Central, and Eastern migration routes through the Mediterranean.

00:18:27.000 And I believe the Central was the dominant one, which was mostly economic migrants from Sub-Saharan Africa coming into Europe, being lied to.

00:18:34.000 They were being told by NGOs, if you come here, there's jobs, there's shelter, there's food.

00:18:38.000 And when they showed up, it was freezing, and they were living in tents.

00:18:41.000 And I actually interviewed some of these individuals in France at a gigantic inflatable migrant center where everyone was just sitting in a big open space.

00:18:51.000 And outside I asked some people and they said, we were lied to.

00:18:55.000 It's freezing here, there's no food, there's no jobs, they tricked us.

00:18:58.000 And that's exactly what we end up seeing with a lot of people coming in the migrant caravans to the United States. 0.97

00:19:03.000 There are NGO groups massively funded that have been encouraging people to come to Europe and the United States.

00:19:10.000 Part of me wonders, Who, you know, it's funny we're talking about war with Russia and all that stuff.

00:19:17.000 I would love to believe that Russia was funneling money to groups to send illegal immigration into Europe and the United States to destabilize NATO.

00:19:25.000 The only problem is the uniparty establishment wants it to happen.

00:19:29.000 Yeah.

00:19:29.000 And the politicians of Europe also want it to happen.

00:19:31.000 So they're actually in favor of the destruction, which Bernie Sanders said in 2015, quote, will make your country poorer.

00:19:38.000 That's Bernie.

00:19:40.000 Open borders is a Koch Brothers proposal!

00:19:43.000 I can't do Bernie too well anymore, I gotta practice.

00:19:45.000 But he says that, uh... That's okay, he's leaving the set anyways.

00:19:49.000 Bernie can't even do Bernie that well anymore.

00:19:51.000 But he said in an interview on Vox, we brought it up last week, it will make your country poorer.

00:19:58.000 Having open borders will make your country poorer.

00:20:00.000 Now here we are.

00:20:01.000 Yeah, go figure.

00:20:04.000 Well, let's jump to the next story.

00:20:05.000 So, while the story about Tucker Carlson is interesting, we actually have something here at home.

00:20:10.000 This is from scnr.com.

00:20:11.000 Hazmat crew arrives at home of Donald Trump Jr.

00:20:15.000 after he was sent white powder and death threats.

00:20:18.000 Quote, this is actually the second time, the second white powder substance, sorry, quote, this is actually the second white powder substance envelope that's been mailed to me, Trump Jr.

00:20:27.000 said.

00:20:29.000 So apparently this, I don't know, is this an actual image of the letter?

00:20:32.000 From what I know, yeah.

00:20:35.000 Wow.

00:20:35.000 It's Cassandra's story, but from what I know, that's the letter.

00:20:38.000 Hazmat and firefighters were at the Jupiter, Florida home of Donald Trump Jr.

00:20:41.000 on Monday after the former president's son received a threatening letter containing white powder.

00:20:45.000 The letter was also addressed to his fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Eric Trump, and his wife, Laura, Jared and Ivanka Kushner, and Barron Trump.

00:20:52.000 Quote, Trump Jr., the eldest son of former president Donald Trump, received the letter and opened the envelope, causing the white powder to fly out.

00:20:59.000 I just gotta say, Don, what are you doing opening your own mail?

00:21:04.000 Yeah, I don't get that at all, Don.

00:21:07.000 I don't open mail!

00:21:08.000 Yeah, no, what are you doing?

00:21:10.000 It makes no sense to me.

00:21:12.000 So, I mean, look, I'm not going to blame the guy for wanting to open mail.

00:21:15.000 It's a normal human thing everyone should do and he shouldn't be receiving these kinds of attacks against him.

00:21:21.000 For me, I can just say this.

00:21:23.000 Our security's been so intense, we've got, like, crazy mail security now.

00:21:28.000 We used to have a P.O.

00:21:28.000 It's nuts.

00:21:29.000 box where people could send stuff.

00:21:30.000 We had to get rid of it.

00:21:31.000 I mean, it still kind of exists, but it's like most stuff has to be returned because of security issues.

00:21:36.000 Yeah.

00:21:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:21:38.000 It's almost like, to receive that stuff, it's almost an unreasonable amount of security you gotta go through.

00:21:45.000 It just ends up getting thrown back.

00:21:46.000 Do we know what the letter said?

00:21:48.000 Well, yeah, I don't know if I should read it, though, because it's probably a death threat.

00:21:52.000 Yeah, let's see.

00:21:54.000 I'm just curious if it said like any like, you know, you're you're the reason this country's falling apart. 0.84

00:22:00.000 You're the Antichrist.

00:22:01.000 I mean, you know, something like that. 1.00

00:22:02.000 Let's just say it's generally things like that, calling Donald, like his father, Don Jr., continues to shack up with his California whore, news him as laughing his ass off, and it goes on to just disparage and insult the family containing white powder. 0.98

00:22:14.000 Do you think, and Tucker Carlson has talked about this a lot, and I agree with him, with everything they're throwing at Donald Trump right now. 0.96

00:22:21.000 The only thing left is to go after him in a different way, right?

00:22:23.000 you know, just absolute banana republic that happened in New York this most recent ruling.

00:22:30.000 The only thing left is to go after him in a different way, right?

00:22:34.000 I don't want to get us in trouble here on everything, but we all know.

00:22:38.000 Just to intimidate his family.

00:22:39.000 Yeah, intimidate his family.

00:22:40.000 I mean, do you think that this is the next step?

00:22:43.000 Because everything that's been thrown at Trump, Trump's family, everything like that, do you think, you know, this type of thing, I mean, we're talking about this right here, do you think that this is the next thing that's going to happen?

00:22:54.000 Because the people that do not want Trump to win, they're losing their mind because nothing's working, right?

00:22:59.000 In Trump's first campaign, a man tried grabbing a gun from a cop to assassinate Trump.

00:23:04.000 Yeah, right!

00:23:04.000 So, the issue is, For the powerful interests that don't like Donald Trump, they're smart.

00:23:12.000 And they know, as the saying goes, if you take a shot at the king, don't miss.

00:23:17.000 So if you're going up against Donald Trump, you have to make sure you've planned everything out.

00:23:23.000 You need five layers of strategy.

00:23:26.000 And so, what do we got?

00:23:28.000 We got New York with these, they're hitting them and it's multifaceted.

00:23:32.000 Yeah.

00:23:32.000 You've got the NDA trial, you've got the E. Jean Carroll rape trial, you've got the fraud trial, you've got the Georgia trial, you've got the documents trial, the federal level.

00:23:39.000 January 6th trial.

00:23:40.000 January 6th trial.

00:23:41.000 I mean, they're throwing every legal weapon at him that they can because that is the slow boil attack against Trump that can stop him without creating a shock to the system.

00:23:54.000 Basically, imagine this.

00:23:56.000 Donald Trump is, you know, he's got a bunch of tiny little people firing little ropes over him, slowly wrapping him up one at a time, as if he's Godzilla being stopped by the military.

00:24:07.000 I want you to imagine that.

00:24:08.000 That's how I envision it.

00:24:10.000 The Democrats... A big orange Godzilla.

00:24:12.000 A big orange Godzilla.

00:24:13.000 And Democrats have a thousand little soldiers all firing ropes, tying him up.

00:24:19.000 No single action is going to stop Trump.

00:24:21.000 Right.

00:24:22.000 I don't think they would actually try to harm Donald Trump.

00:24:26.000 As of right now, because it would shock the system so massively, it could rip the country apart and it could actually harm their efforts to gain control.

00:24:35.000 But under that logic, we have to believe that the left, that I don't believe, actually wants what's best for the country.

00:24:43.000 They don't want the country to rip itself apart.

00:24:45.000 Which I don't think that they want.

00:24:46.000 I don't want to make Trump a martyr, right?

00:24:48.000 You're right.

00:24:49.000 Far leftists, Antifa types may want to, but I don't think the establishment deep state would allow the far left to try anything to harm Donald Trump.

00:24:58.000 For now, I don't know, things will change.

00:25:00.000 Right now, we're looking at Donald Trump getting a $454 million fine with $87,500 per day added onto it.

00:25:07.000 It is completely illegitimate as far as any sane human goes, but they are going to use the force of New York State to try and go after Trump in a way they would describe as legitimate.

00:25:16.000 It's not, but they're going to say, look, it's the law and the judge said so.

00:25:20.000 Trump's got to fight that.

00:25:21.000 That is the slow boil move against Trump, which stops system shock.

00:25:26.000 The powers that be want the system to remain intact to a certain degree.

00:25:30.000 I think they're viewing it like having a fever, you know?

00:25:33.000 Heat everything up to a point where you can shuffle off like January 6th, right? 0.99

00:25:38.000 Convince them all to do something stupid, yell at them and tell them to go storm the Capitol. 0.98

00:25:42.000 When they do, you can then start arresting them under legitimacy of law. 1.00

00:25:46.000 Yeah.

00:25:47.000 If Donald Trump gets hurt in any way, it's gonna martyr him.

00:25:50.000 Even if he doesn't die, it's gonna rally support for him.

00:25:53.000 We see this with every politician when someone tries to take the life of a politician.

00:25:57.000 So I think the Uniparty is like, very much so, Trump must be safe.

00:26:02.000 And he must be destroyed in court.

00:26:03.000 And the legal onslaught is what the faction of the Republican Party that doesn't want to see him elected is also using against him.

00:26:10.000 Nikki Haley gave that speech last week, midweek, where she's like, I'm not dropping out.

00:26:14.000 And one of her criticisms of Trump was he spends more time in the courtroom than on the campaign trail.

00:26:19.000 But why does he spend so much time in the courtroom?

00:26:22.000 Because he has to, because he's under attack in a way that no politician who has campaigned has been under attack.

00:26:28.000 Which I find really interesting, because obviously, at this point, those who are supporting Nikki Haley are just Probably anti-Trump.

00:26:34.000 Well, they're Democrats, most of them.

00:26:36.000 Right, and because that's the talking point, oh, he's not out here campaigning enough.

00:26:40.000 It's interesting that it's two sides teaming up to say the legal front is Trump's biggest witness.

00:26:45.000 Well, what does that say about the country right now?

00:26:48.000 Because she is right, right?

00:26:49.000 I mean, that is true.

00:26:50.000 He's spending more time in the courtroom, less time on the campaign trail.

00:26:54.000 She tried to put this thing out there the other day, which Nikki Haley unfriended me, so the gloves are off now.

00:27:00.000 Either way.

00:27:02.000 Like unfriended you on Facebook?

00:27:03.000 On Instagram and whatnot, which is crazy because either way, boy, so gloves are off.

00:27:09.000 She did this post about how he's all in court.

00:27:12.000 He spent like $100 million over the course of whatever. 0.99

00:27:15.000 Well, she spent like upwards of $300 million in the past three, four months and has got her butt kicked every single step of the way. 1.00

00:27:23.000 I don't know. 0.92

00:27:24.000 To me, it seems like a boiling point where we're at because they're doing anything and everything they can.

00:27:29.000 The money thing is concerning.

00:27:31.000 It really is.

00:27:32.000 People's net worth versus what they actually have on them and the availability is very different.

00:27:37.000 And so the money thing is a concern.

00:27:41.000 I think everybody is concerned about that because that is, in a way, Trump's superpower.

00:27:46.000 He doesn't need the money of other people, and if he wasn't being donated a dime, he could self-fund this thing himself.

00:27:54.000 Going after that, taking away the business license for three years, how long is this going to take to get an appeal?

00:28:01.000 But back to the original thing about this, maybe they don't go after Trump himself, but what about his family?

00:28:06.000 I think it's, I mean, one of the lawsuits involved is so none of the Trumps can be an operative business in New York at all, right?

00:28:13.000 Well, that's the New York one, yeah.

00:28:14.000 Right, and so there is this idea that they're going after them financially.

00:28:17.000 They want Trump to be bankrupt, but they also want it so none of his sons who took over the business, you know, because he had to move everything into their names, they do not want any of the Trumps to be able to succeed financially and potentially run other political campaigns, right?

00:28:30.000 Where was the Secret Service during this letter?

00:28:33.000 Don't all the immediate family kids still have secrets?

00:28:35.000 Or does that go away after a while?

00:28:36.000 That's what I would want to know about this letter in particular.

00:28:39.000 Because obviously, yes, you can have systems so that your business mail doesn't come directly to you or whatever else.

00:28:45.000 But theoretically, if this letter made it far enough into his home...

00:28:49.000 How was it disguised?

00:28:50.000 How was it sent?

00:28:51.000 Was it something that says, like, this is from your children's school?

00:28:54.000 Or, like, this is from your kid's school.

00:28:56.000 It definitely needs your signature.

00:28:57.000 So it gets through some sort of screening process.

00:28:59.000 Like, that's what's so interesting to me about this letter.

00:29:01.000 The fact that it was able to make it into the home.

00:29:03.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

00:29:04.000 Which would mean it's someone who's close enough to know where the Or where did the security breakdown happen?

00:29:10.000 I've talked to the Trump team many times about I think they need to double, triple, quadruple the security that's going on for a letter like this with a white powdery substance and we'll find out if they haven't already released if it was anything at all yet.

00:29:25.000 Hopefully it wasn't.

00:29:27.000 How did that actually get into the home?

00:29:29.000 That would make me question who's around Don Jr.

00:29:31.000 Yeah.

00:29:32.000 I mean, the other thing about this letter is like he's listing all of it says it's it's to all of the siblings and their significant others, except for Tiffany Trump and her husband, right?

00:29:40.000 Like, there is a level where this is and she's the one who's the most removed.

00:29:43.000 Yeah.

00:29:44.000 Other than Barron, although Barron goes viral every once in a while for being 100 feet tall.

00:29:48.000 Dude, if he don't get a NBA contract it's gonna be crazy.

00:29:51.000 He absolutely cannot fit in the White House anymore.

00:29:53.000 No.

00:29:54.000 No, but I mean there is a level where people who are sort of deranged will do whatever it takes and maybe something gets through a security system.

00:30:01.000 I think that generally the The children of Trump have always been caught in the crosshairs.

00:30:06.000 Some of them want to be more publicly involved and some of them want to be more private.

00:30:12.000 Arguably, that's true for any child of a president, right?

00:30:15.000 That there will always be people who hate your parents and people will want to intimidate you.

00:30:19.000 Yeah.

00:30:20.000 Well, somebody's getting fired.

00:30:21.000 That's all I know.

00:30:22.000 That the letter got all the way to Don Jr.

00:30:24.000 and Don Jr.

00:30:25.000 physically opened it himself.

00:30:26.000 Yeah, somebody's getting fired.

00:30:28.000 How do you... I can't understand that.

00:30:31.000 How does it get there?

00:30:32.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:30:33.000 I've not opened a piece of mail in like six years.

00:30:36.000 Look at the security.

00:30:37.000 Trump team, if you're watching, look at the security of you.

00:30:40.000 Who let that get to you?

00:30:41.000 That's the real question.

00:30:43.000 That's where I feel like it has to be something that was either hand-delivered to him specifically or was marked in a way that only he was supposed to see the contents of it.

00:30:52.000 And again, that's why my default is to think like, oh, it's a letter from school, right?

00:30:55.000 That's maybe got sensitive information about your kids.

00:30:57.000 But still, to Tim's point, it just seems like Don Jr.

00:31:01.000 doesn't open his mail.

00:31:03.000 You know, like, oh, it's a bill.

00:31:05.000 Don Jr.

00:31:05.000 doesn't open a bill.

00:31:07.000 You know, like, I mean, they've got other people that pay the bill.

00:31:09.000 I mean, this is the Trump family, right?

00:31:11.000 Like, that's weird.

00:31:12.000 No, I don't know.

00:31:13.000 probably pays all his own bills and takes care of business and all that stuff.

00:31:13.000 I think Trump Jr.

00:31:16.000 I bet he's got an accountant.

00:31:18.000 Yeah, but I mean like, I don't know about his bills.

00:31:22.000 Clearly he's opening his own mail.

00:31:24.000 Well, obviously he's opening his own mail.

00:31:27.000 I gotta say, this story's crazy to me because I'll tell you two things.

00:31:30.000 Not only do I not open mail, but I certainly wouldn't open a letter from someone I didn't recognize.

00:31:35.000 Dude, I don't even answer my phone.

00:31:37.000 It doesn't matter who's calling.

00:31:38.000 So if they impersonated somebody that they knew, isn't that a felony?

00:31:42.000 To impersonate somebody via the federal mail?

00:31:46.000 Oh, I'm so-and-so that you know?

00:31:48.000 Isn't that a crime?

00:31:51.000 People spoof phone numbers, so I don't even answer my phone.

00:31:55.000 Because it could say anything, and you'll answer it, and you will get something else.

00:32:02.000 Aside from that, I mentioned this before, At a certain point, and maybe it's just, I'd assume Trump family security issues are way worse than ours, but I don't have my own computer, phone, and I don't have the mail, I don't have email, I don't have anything.

00:32:20.000 When you go to Mar-a-Lago, I mean, they know me there.

00:32:22.000 Like, I go there a lot, and I get the same treatment, the same pat-downs, the same everything all the time.

00:32:28.000 So again, to your point, that's the weirdest part to me, is Well, ladies and gentlemen, things are certainly heating up.

00:32:37.000 And no pun intended.

00:32:40.000 U.S.

00:32:40.000 Airman dies after setting himself on fire outside Israeli embassy.

00:32:45.000 Aaron Bushnell yelled a free Palestine, then lit himself on fire near the Israeli embassy of Washington, D.C.

00:32:51.000 He live streamed this. 0.95

00:32:53.000 It is going viral among many on the left and many pro-Palestinians who are fervently cheering on this young man, who I will say unquestionably was mentally ill. 0.91

00:33:03.000 And I don't know how you could deny it.

00:33:06.000 That you would go in front of the Israeli embassy, self-immolate while screaming free Palestine. 0.97

00:33:11.000 And there are a lot of people who hate Israel.

00:33:14.000 There are a lot of people with legitimate criticisms of Israel I can respect.

00:33:17.000 But there are people who are... The issue of Israel-Palestine...

00:33:22.000 It is.

00:33:22.000 I don't know how you describe this.

00:33:25.000 There are mental disorders in the DSM-5 we understand.

00:33:29.000 Somebody's eating their hair.

00:33:31.000 And they do it all the time.

00:33:32.000 They eat pennies.

00:33:33.000 I reference Pike a lot.

00:33:34.000 There's body dysmorphic disorder.

00:33:36.000 People want to remove body parts. 0.97

00:33:38.000 We know that those things exist.

00:33:40.000 But there's something else.

00:33:42.000 If somebody is placed in a room for two weeks, and the only thing they're shown is the same images over and over and over again, you can drive them insane.

00:33:51.000 You can shatter their minds.

00:33:53.000 So I would say, outright, a man who walks in front of the Israeli embassy, sets himself on fire, he poured some clear liquid, presumably gasoline, Says the people of Palestine have been living under the rule of their colonizers who are committing genocide against them and I will no longer be complicit.

00:34:12.000 Ignites himself.

00:34:16.000 So the first question I have is to what end?

00:34:20.000 What was the logical thought process of doing something like this?

00:34:24.000 I don't think he had one.

00:34:26.000 The amount of mental illness that you have to be at to take your life in that way.

00:34:34.000 I want to say this to all the leftists. 0.77

00:34:36.000 When they're saying there's a genocide going on, did he light himself on fire over the Uyghur Muslims?

00:34:41.000 Is he lighting himself on fire over the Sudanese conflict, for which the U.S.

00:34:44.000 certainly plays a role?

00:34:45.000 What about the Yemen?

00:34:46.000 The Yemeni humanitarian crisis has been going on for a very, very long time.

00:34:49.000 I mean, ten years ago, we were talking about a secret war in Yemen, with cities being bombed by U.S.

00:34:56.000 drones, even though we're not at war.

00:34:57.000 American citizens being killed. 0.85

00:34:59.000 This is my point.

00:35:01.000 This young man never did anything like this for any one of the other serious and egregious military affairs happening around the world with US involvement.

00:35:13.000 So when you see someone scream, free Palestine, calling it a genocide and then lighting themselves on fire, What I see here is a man who was trapped in an echo chamber where people were screaming in his face 24-7 until his brain broke.

00:35:30.000 Because any rational person who assessed all of the details on global foreign affairs, military conflict, would conclude the Israeli conflict is NOT The most egregious and insane thing happening on the planet.

00:35:46.000 You can have the opinion that it is, that's fine, but there are certainly others.

00:35:49.000 The other point is, he accomplished absolutely nothing by doing it.

00:35:54.000 Yeah, it's interesting because it makes me think of the rates of anxiety, depression, and hopelessness that we see among American youth today.

00:36:01.000 I mean, if you're deciding to go out by self-immolation, it probably means that you wanted to feel as though your death definitely meant something and made an impression, right?

00:36:13.000 And that's sort of an act of desperation to feel valued by the world.

00:36:17.000 Ultimately, his death doesn't change what our country is doing.

00:36:20.000 And I feel sad to say that because the loss of human life is tragic.

00:36:23.000 But this type of suicide is specific to someone who wants to mean something.

00:36:28.000 And I think there are a lot of young people who are desperate to feel as though they matter.

00:36:32.000 And I think that's a reflection of our country.

00:36:35.000 Well, the echo chamber, to your point.

00:36:37.000 The thing that sticks out to me, this guy was an active duty airman.

00:36:41.000 So the echo chamber was the military then.

00:36:44.000 Like, here's my thing, okay?

00:36:46.000 I was in the Army for 12 years, all right?

00:36:48.000 Wasn't anything special, nothing.

00:36:50.000 But this, like, people that are having, how long till we find out That people are like, oh yeah, he's been struggling for a long time.

00:36:59.000 It'll only be a matter of time before we find that out and people start talking about that.

00:37:03.000 So my question is, back when I was in, mental health was a huge thing.

00:37:08.000 The wars were going on, everything like this.

00:37:09.000 If somebody twitched the wrong way, It was handled immediately, like you would tackle that person and not let them move until mental health services got there across the board.

00:37:20.000 So this is an epic failure in the military.

00:37:24.000 There is zero chance, zero.

00:37:27.000 If this dude was active duty, I'm telling you right now, there is zero chance that people around him and his squad, his platoon, whatever it was, they did not know that something's off with, what was his name?

00:37:37.000 Aaron Vushnell.

00:37:38.000 Aaron, something's off with Aaron.

00:37:40.000 There's no way that people didn't know, and this is an epic, that this is another thing with our United States military right now.

00:37:48.000 It is falling apart at the seams, even in realms of mental health.

00:37:53.000 So I will state, because I know there will be people who will push back on what I just said about it accomplished nothing.

00:37:57.000 They'll say, oh, he built awareness.

00:37:59.000 And I'm like, uh, sure.

00:38:00.000 I've heard that before.

00:38:01.000 For mental health?

00:38:02.000 Lots of things build awareness.

00:38:03.000 Well, no, the left is talking about it.

00:38:05.000 It's in the news.

00:38:06.000 They put it in the news or whatever.

00:38:07.000 I don't think it wasn't... Here's the point.

00:38:10.000 The fact that Houthi rebels are bombing cargo ships over what's going on in Israel, take no need for awareness over the issue.

00:38:17.000 Right.

00:38:18.000 Self-immolation doesn't accomplish any boost in PR other than you publicly killed yourself.

00:38:24.000 He died from his injuries.

00:38:26.000 He did not stop to assess situation.

00:38:28.000 He didn't think about what he was doing or what it would mean.

00:38:32.000 Yeah.

00:38:33.000 He just killed himself.

00:38:33.000 Now, here's what I think.

00:38:35.000 Building upon what Hannah Clare was just saying about people want to matter.

00:38:40.000 I think we also see something related to that.

00:38:43.000 If you look at the George Floyd riots, what were the George Floyd riots really about?

00:38:47.000 They're about COVID.

00:38:48.000 People were locked in their apartments.

00:38:50.000 They couldn't leave.

00:38:51.000 They couldn't go to their favorite restaurants anymore.

00:38:53.000 They lost their minds.

00:38:54.000 It's kind of wild because, you know, I lived in New York for years and I lived in a very small, they call it a one, they called it a two bedroom, but the living room and the kitchen were the same thing.

00:39:05.000 So it's a one bedroom.

00:39:06.000 I could not imagine being unable to leave because all the businesses are closed.

00:39:10.000 You can't go outside.

00:39:12.000 You can go out and walk around or whatever, but they tell you to go home.

00:39:14.000 I couldn't imagine being pent up and locked up inside and what that would do to your mind.

00:39:18.000 But many people were for months, for almost a year.

00:39:22.000 And then when George Floyd happened, they used that as an excuse to all flood the streets, screaming about all that anger that was built up inside.

00:39:31.000 I think this guy was mad about something else.

00:39:33.000 I bet he couldn't afford to pay his bills.

00:39:34.000 I bet he was unhappy with his position.

00:39:37.000 I bet he was unhappy with his personal life.

00:39:40.000 And so all of that anger and desperation led him to consider ending himself.

00:39:44.000 Because understand this.

00:39:47.000 I talked about a story about a guy, I think his name was Mohamed Bouazizi.

00:39:50.000 Someone want to fact check me if I'm wrong?

00:39:52.000 Tunisian guy who lit himself on fire in Tunisia, sparking the Arab Spring.

00:39:57.000 A man who self-immolated in protest of what his country had become triggered waves of protests and ultimately resulted in a wave of revolutions across all these countries.

00:40:08.000 The reason he did it was because he was a very poor man who was trying to sell fruit from a cart.

00:40:13.000 Government agents, police came up to him and they fined him and said, you can no longer sell fruit and here's a ticket because you didn't get a permit.

00:40:20.000 He had nothing.

00:40:21.000 He couldn't pay his bills.

00:40:22.000 He couldn't buy food for his family.

00:40:24.000 He couldn't even now sell fruit at the government telling him no. 0.73

00:40:27.000 So with nothing left in his life and absolute desperation, he decided to kill himself. 0.86

00:40:32.000 So he went in front of a government building, set himself on fire.

00:40:36.000 And this triggered waves of outrage that he was fined for trying to live and, you know, he was struggling.

00:40:41.000 And it resulted in mass protests in Tunisia.

00:40:43.000 And then that ripple hit a bunch of other countries as more and more activists started saying, hey, look, it's possible.

00:40:50.000 Now, in the mind of that man, why did he do it?

00:40:53.000 Because the government had crushed him, he couldn't survive, and he was basically dead.

00:40:57.000 He was basically saying, by taking away my only opportunity to make money, you have killed me.

00:41:02.000 And so he ended himself.

00:41:02.000 He ended his life.

00:41:03.000 He was desperate and wanted to die.

00:41:04.000 For what reason does this man want to kill himself in America with a job? 0.66

00:41:10.000 There clearly must have been something wrong with his personal life where he would consider killing himself.

00:41:16.000 I'll put it this way.

00:41:18.000 There is zero chance a married father with children would be like, you know what?

00:41:23.000 Because of Palestine, I'm going to end my life. 1.00

00:41:25.000 Oh, hold on.

00:41:26.000 You got a lot going on in your life.

00:41:27.000 Yeah.

00:41:28.000 Now what if his wife was going to leave him and take the kids and he was... Do we know he was single? 0.93

00:41:32.000 Well, I don't know.

00:41:33.000 I'm just saying.

00:41:35.000 A person with a stable work and personal life does not immolate themselves over Palestine.

00:41:41.000 Right.

00:41:41.000 He might be really passionate, he might volunteer with groups, he might lobby as congressman, but deciding to light yourself on fire is a very different route.

00:41:48.000 It's indicative of something in his life that led him to a suicidal ideation.

00:41:54.000 And he directed that, whatever that anger and pain was, towards Palestine.

00:41:59.000 And you can hear him screaming, free Palestine. 0.54

00:42:02.000 I assure you, if you look to his personal life, you'll find distress and you'll find problems.

00:42:05.000 There was a priest in Texas.

00:42:07.000 His name is Charles Moore.

00:42:09.000 Someone told me the story back then.

00:42:09.000 I just pulled it up.

00:42:10.000 I went to Southern Methodist University, which is in Dallas.

00:42:13.000 And this priest, it was in, I think, it was like 2011.

00:42:16.000 He had driven up to our campuses before I went there and thought about lighting himself on fire to protest how the Methodist Church treated LGBTQ people.

00:42:26.000 And then later, Years and years later, like 2014, he did light himself on fire at a strip mall in, I think, southern Texas because he said he was protesting racial discrimination and call for justice.

00:42:36.000 And it's interesting to me because it had changed.

00:42:38.000 And again, this is just what I remember about this story.

00:42:41.000 He did ultimately light himself on fire.

00:42:42.000 He had planned to do it for a long time.

00:42:44.000 To me, this person is suicidal and they want their death to mean something and they want to make a flash, basically.

00:42:49.000 Yeah.

00:42:50.000 But it's not necessarily someone who Is going to guarantee that there is a change right like the Arab Spring example is interesting because it did have a chain reaction but that person was driven to desperation whereas these two examples of men in America seem to be people who are already considering ending their lives and they want to think that they have the same kind of ripple effect.

00:43:12.000 So to clarify, the guy in Tunisia, his self-immolation was an act of suicide.

00:43:18.000 And he did it in a way, as an F you, you have done this to me.

00:43:21.000 There was a connection between his actions.

00:43:24.000 He wasn't leading a great movement or anything, he was just like...

00:43:27.000 The movement came afterwards.

00:43:29.000 This kid has seen one too many videos on the internet about Palestine.

00:43:32.000 Something's wrong in his life that's making him depressed and angry, and so he's decided to kill himself, and he's going to... You know what? 0.84

00:43:40.000 I imagine his thought process was, life sucks, I hate my life, I'm gonna do it, but at least I'll save free Palestine when I do. 0.93

00:43:46.000 Well, I don't negate that. 0.94

00:43:47.000 I agree with you.

00:43:48.000 I think that no one can argue that we're the most connected we've ever been, but we're the most alone we've ever been.

00:43:54.000 So many people struggle with this.

00:43:56.000 Depression, anxiety, suicide are rampant.

00:43:58.000 Suicide is literally the 10th cause of death in our country now.

00:44:03.000 My question still remains, on top of the world that we live in that is That is, these echo chambers, to your point, that are breaking people down to a point where depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts are running rampant.

00:44:17.000 How many times, and I'm just speaking purely from a military, because this is an active

00:44:22.000 duty service member, how many times was this person failed because we're also facilitating

00:44:29.000 a world and a culture now where, oh, well, they're just dealing with something right

00:44:35.000 now.

00:44:36.000 I'm not going to speak up and say, hey, something's wrong with so and so, because they don't want

00:44:41.000 to embarrass people or they don't want to get involved and people don't want to do the

00:44:45.000 right thing.

00:44:46.000 Again, there's no way that this guy that did this did not have any other.

00:44:52.000 Very real signs to people, and yeah, maybe he didn't have close friends, but in the military you have close people next to you that see you every single day, and we're facilitating.

00:45:04.000 It's the same thing when you had the school shooters and the kids are like, oh yeah, so-and-so said for forever that they're gonna shoot up the school, but they didn't say anything!

00:45:12.000 Was it possible that whatever unit he was in, he did not get along with his Oh, absolutely, it's possible.

00:45:18.000 I mean, that's part of the military.

00:45:21.000 There's people you don't like that you have to learn to get along with.

00:45:24.000 But based on what you're saying about, you know, he's got people around him.

00:45:27.000 They're going to notice something's wrong.

00:45:28.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 What if the issue that drove him to wanting to take his own life was that he wasn't getting along with any of the guys in his unit or whatever, or his commanding officers, and he was, like, maybe they considered him to be, I don't know, a weirdo, or weak, or maybe he was the odd person out who felt detached and disconnected to the point where nobody cared.

00:45:49.000 And that was actually what broke him.

00:45:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:45:53.000 I mean, possible.

00:45:54.000 Again, the military is different now from when I was in it.

00:45:57.000 I just know that when I was there, I mean, not only are you forced to take and see people on a regular basis to make sure everything's good, Not only are you forced to take mental health courses and all this other kind of stuff, I mean, it was just, yeah, if they're, I mean, they would literally drill it into your mind.

00:46:17.000 If your battle buddy, as it would be called, showed any signs of anything, you have the absolute obligation to spear tackle them and hold them down on the ground until somebody trained can come and Could it be that maybe when he would go on social media, the other branches of the military would just make fun of him and call him a member of the chair force?

00:46:41.000 Well that, I mean, I don't know.

00:46:43.000 Inner things between military branches.

00:46:47.000 That's what I've heard.

00:46:48.000 Everyone calls the Air Force, they call them the chair force.

00:46:50.000 Because I sit around all day.

00:46:50.000 Chair force, yeah.

00:46:51.000 Yeah, well, yeah.

00:46:53.000 I mean, I also wonder with this person, you know, if there is a certain amount of, like, seeking glory and all of this.

00:46:57.000 Because you've mentioned a couple times that he was active on social media, he was posting about stuff.

00:47:01.000 Like, he didn't show classical signs of depression, and maybe that's one of the ways that we fail people, that we expect them to present, you know, a suicidal person can't get out of bed and they're really depressed.

00:47:11.000 Like, maybe there are ways that we don't understand people who are driven to desperation.

00:47:18.000 I will be shocked if something doesn't come out that somebody knew or somebody suspected something.

00:47:25.000 One of the craziest things about this is his last post on Facebook.

00:47:29.000 He said, many of us like to ask ourselves, what would I do if I was alive during slavery or the Jim Crow South or apartheid?

00:47:35.000 What would I do if my country was committing genocide?

00:47:38.000 The answer is you're doing it right now.

00:47:40.000 That right there I think shows he was suffering from some kind of Mass formation psychosis, I think is probably the right word for it.

00:47:52.000 He goes on the internet, he entrenches himself in propaganda, and lives and breathes only one message.

00:48:01.000 It's the example I like to give from Occupy Wall Street where they had a General Assembly meeting.

00:48:06.000 It means they brought everyone at the park together and said, okay, we're going to figure out what the, you know, what we want to focus on in terms of the problem of, you know, Wall Street.

00:48:14.000 And people are saying, you know, oh, it's the bank bailouts, it's revolving door politics, and some old guy stands up and just screams, What is wrong with you people?

00:48:23.000 It is fracking!

00:48:25.000 Fracking is everything!

00:48:27.000 And I just thought it was absolutely hilarious because fracking is such a, like, minor thing in terms of global policy.

00:48:36.000 But this guy lived in only that world.

00:48:39.000 And to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

00:48:41.000 So what is he thinking?

00:48:42.000 He was saying things like the big companies who want to drill for oil are paying off the politicians and they're getting funding because they're involved overseas in the Middle East and it's all of these big companies, these big energy companies are involved in fracking and they want to distract the American people with foreign, just nonsense.

00:48:59.000 And I'm like, that, that's what I see here.

00:49:04.000 When he would say something about, I'm like, I gotta be honest with you guys.

00:49:07.000 I certainly think Israel-Palestine is a pressing issue, but it is one of the least important issues to America, and it is one of the least important issues in terms of American domestic policy.

00:49:20.000 That being said, in terms of global affairs, it matters quite a bit with the Houthi rebels and the Red Sea and the fears that's escalating, but to claim That the issue is the U.S.

00:49:34.000 is involved in genocide, as opposed to the real issue, of course, being the U.S.

00:49:39.000 funding of Israel is exacerbating regional conflict, which could theoretically result in an expansion of war from Eastern Europe into the Middle East, and then giving China an opportunity to take Taiwan.

00:49:50.000 We want to minimize opportunities for regional conflict around the world for the potential of World War III.

00:49:57.000 He's like, the U.S.

00:49:58.000 is genociding Palestinians. 0.99

00:50:00.000 And I'm like, look, my concern over what's going on there has more to do with U.S.

00:50:05.000 bombing Yemen and Iran retaliating than whatever's going on with the regional conflict between Israel and Palestine.

00:50:10.000 Certainly don't think the U.S.

00:50:11.000 should be involved in funding any of it, but this is zealotry.

00:50:15.000 Well, another question, and it just popped up in my mind, so I apologize to keep going on.

00:50:20.000 Why do it in uniform?

00:50:21.000 Why not do it in a Palestinian flag wrapped around you or something like that?

00:50:25.000 Why?

00:50:25.000 It's a little dramatic if he's in uniform.

00:50:27.000 It was for the spectacle, kind of like what you were saying.

00:50:29.000 It makes me think of these guys in the 60s that did it.

00:50:32.000 And I'm going to butcher this Vietnamese dude's name. 0.99

00:50:34.000 He was a monk in 1963.

00:50:35.000 Chi Khang Duc, I'm not sure how you pronounce that, but he lit himself on fire to protest the Vietnamese war.

00:50:43.000 Norman Morrison, an American dude, went outside of the Secretary of Defense's office and set himself on fire in 1965.

00:50:49.000 And it got massive attention in the 60s.

00:50:52.000 Papers would print the image.

00:50:54.000 It was iconic.

00:50:55.000 People were like, oh, what the hell is going on in Vietnam?

00:50:57.000 Maybe we should second guess what we're doing and stop.

00:51:00.000 And it kind of led to the end of the Vietnam War, these protests.

00:51:02.000 But in modern age, That's not how protest works anymore.

00:51:07.000 That kind of spectacle stuff just falls away from people's minds.

00:51:11.000 They're not going to remember.

00:51:11.000 Right.

00:51:12.000 This isn't like stealing the spotlight like he would have hoped.

00:51:15.000 Well, there was a protester who set herself on fire in Atlanta over this conflict in December, and we barely talked about it at all.

00:51:22.000 You got to adapt to new methods.

00:51:24.000 I didn't realize there were so many people setting themselves on fire.

00:51:26.000 I'm not trying to make a joke out of it, but I mean, I had no clue that so many people were like, I'm tired of this.

00:51:33.000 I'm lighting myself on fire.

00:51:34.000 There's this, um, I think it's a sociological conundrum or a concept called, um, suicide pods where it's like, if people get concerned, especially with like young adults, high schools, like if there's a suicide at a high school there, Statistically, occasionally, there are areas where that happens several more times.

00:51:49.000 The communities are affected by it in kind of pods.

00:51:51.000 And it sort of makes me think of that.

00:51:53.000 Like, why is this one issue triggering this specific response?

00:51:57.000 Again, is it supposed to be because, like, you're referencing the Buddhist monks who lit themselves on fire, like, there's sort of a religious imagery to it?

00:52:03.000 People feel as though they are martyring themselves for a cause by this dramatic suicide?

00:52:07.000 Like, that it's public?

00:52:08.000 Like, what is it?

00:52:10.000 Why are these two things being linked?

00:52:12.000 Little pods like that popping up feels, what's the word, nefarious?

00:52:18.000 Something dark in that type of thing.

00:52:21.000 I read this article about it a really long time ago.

00:52:23.000 At the time they were saying it's sort of like as soon as it becomes public in a community, if there's a suicide in a community, it somehow makes it Okay for other people who might have those sort of yeah, but that's like a manifestation of you know, I mean I you know for people that are religious to me that just seems like a manifestation of You know oppression and things like that not oppression like slavery oppression like spiritual like the evil dark demonic oppression and things I I think a large component of the culture war is mass formation psychosis versus

00:53:01.000 Rational thinking people.

00:53:04.000 That's why the quote-unquote right has so many different ideologies from traditional conservative to laissez-faire libertarian.

00:53:11.000 That you will get a libertarian arguing, what was it?

00:53:17.000 At the Libertarian Convention where someone said should children, you know, children shouldn't be allowed to buy, you shouldn't be allowed to sell heroin to children and someone boos.

00:53:26.000 You have those people willing to sit down with traditional conservatives, and they'll have a conversation.

00:53:30.000 Then you have the mass formation psychosis left, which we would just refer to as the left, and they're unwilling to have the conversations, they believe fake things, and there's, like, the question is, do they even read?

00:53:42.000 They don't.

00:53:43.000 They just believe garbled nonsense. 0.99

00:53:45.000 And that's why I think, when you look at the Google Gemini story, there's a reason why Google Gemini is garbled nonsense, making black founding fathers and black Nazis. 0.99

00:53:54.000 Because they live in a nonsense, fragmented world, where they don't have the mental fortitude to break down information properly and to research and understand the world around them. 0.98

00:54:06.000 So they fall victim to mass formation psychosis, believe insane things, vote for insane reasons, and the rest of us have to contend with it.

00:54:15.000 That's not fun.

00:54:16.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:54:17.000 You know, and they get mad at you as well.

00:54:21.000 They lose their temper.

00:54:22.000 They lose their cool.

00:54:23.000 There's no rational conversations with people.

00:54:26.000 Let's jump to the story from Fox News.

00:54:26.000 Yeah.

00:54:28.000 This is massive.

00:54:29.000 Dr. Phil tells View hosts about horrific fates for some migrant children at the southern border.

00:54:35.000 I don't know if you guys saw this.

00:54:36.000 He appeared on Rogan.

00:54:38.000 He was talking about how he interviewed CBP and they outright told him.

00:54:43.000 That U.S. 0.96

00:54:44.000 tax dollars are used to facilitate the sex trafficking of children.

00:54:48.000 That Customs and Border Patrol agents are taking child victims, you are paying them to do it, and they are facilitating the transport... I want to stress this.

00:54:57.000 That Customs and Border Protection are facilitating the transport of child sex trafficking victims to their abusers.

00:55:04.000 And Dr. Phil's on The View and he's like, yeah, it's happening.

00:55:07.000 And they're like, uh... Wow.

00:55:10.000 Yep.

00:55:11.000 Dr. Phil has entered the chat.

00:55:12.000 That's what I was saying.

00:55:14.000 I said this downstairs.

00:55:15.000 Well, what happened to Dr. Phil?

00:55:16.000 Dr. Phil took the red pill all of a sudden, man.

00:55:19.000 And he's really, he was just, I guess the same thing.

00:55:23.000 He was talking about the COVID shots and the side effects from that too.

00:55:26.000 So this is crazy.

00:55:27.000 He said, quote, I talked to the head of all the border guards down there, the head of the union.

00:55:30.000 I asked him straight up, kids are coming over the border with numbers written on them, phone numbers and addresses.

00:55:34.000 Do we check those out?

00:55:37.000 He said, well, we call them.

00:55:39.000 Is it possible that we're sending them into known prostitution rings or sweatshops?

00:55:43.000 He said, it's not possible, it is absolute.

00:55:46.000 We are using American tax dollars to ship children into known prostitution and sweatshops. 0.85

00:55:51.000 And the funny thing is, when Donald Trump's administration says, we got to figure out if these kids are sex trafficking victims, children, and whether or not that man with that little girl is his parent or not, the left screamed, Oh, he's separating families.

00:56:07.000 Meanwhile, these are the same leftists who are cheering for adult graphic content in

00:56:12.000 schools and makes you wonder about what their true intentions are.

00:56:15.000 Yeah, it's the same people that had a problem with, uh, oh, I just drew a blank.

00:56:19.000 The movie, A Sound of Freedom, that said it was right-wing conspiracy theory.

00:56:27.000 The anti-child trafficking movie is evil.

00:56:30.000 The same people who claimed the Epstein story was a conspiracy.

00:56:33.000 Yeah.

00:56:33.000 Amazing.

00:56:34.000 Well, why?

00:56:35.000 Why are they saying this?

00:56:36.000 Because there's so many people that are complicit in it.

00:56:38.000 That's why they're doing it.

00:56:40.000 It's totally crazy.

00:56:41.000 I mean, I'm glad to have sort of mainstream figures like Dr. Phil talking about this issue.

00:56:47.000 It's so interesting to me that so many people are raking up to the dangers of the border and that they're willing to say, hey, this is a problem, we should confront it, rather than be lulled into silence by the idea that you might be racist or something like that.

00:57:00.000 A couple months ago, I can't remember who it was, I think it was Nikki Haley, got endorsed by Judge Judy.

00:57:06.000 And people were like, look, she's been in everyone's living room.

00:57:10.000 These television figures, people are very used to them.

00:57:13.000 They do have a serious following.

00:57:15.000 So to have someone like Dr. Phil say, hey, we are actually putting children who are extremely vulnerable, especially if they're being sent across the border alone, or if they're being brought across the border with a pedophile, effectively, Yeah.

00:57:28.000 They need our protection more than anyone else.

00:57:30.000 And by not protecting them, we are failing on so many levels.

00:57:34.000 Well, I think people will.

00:57:35.000 Yeah.

00:57:36.000 But one, my question is, you know, Dr. Phil, he got to start on Oprah.

00:57:40.000 Right.

00:57:42.000 So Dr. Phil has been in with the elites of the elites for a long time.

00:57:46.000 Right.

00:57:46.000 So one question.

00:57:48.000 He really is like a licensed.

00:57:49.000 I should look it up.

00:57:50.000 But I think he really is like a licensed therapist.

00:57:52.000 Yeah.

00:57:52.000 But this is just how my brain works sometimes is my question is, did Dr. Phil like Really not know that things like this were going on and he like light bulb just went or is it so mainstream now?

00:58:05.000 He's willing to talk about it.

00:58:06.000 Well, well look props to dr. Phil for actually yeah.

00:58:09.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:58:10.000 Yeah, but it is absolutely fascinating that You know if you're on the quote-unquote right you're six months ahead of the news.

00:58:16.000 Yeah.

00:58:16.000 Now, how is that?

00:58:18.000 It's just so weird, isn't it?

00:58:20.000 Well, as you point out, Echo Chamber, we don't have our heads in the sand across the board.

00:58:26.000 But the child sex trafficking thing, I have so many friends that have charity organizations

00:58:31.000 that go out and rescue these children in not only this country, but other countries as

00:58:36.000 You'd be amazed the amount of parents that are involved in all this stuff.

00:58:41.000 So if parents are involved in it, for you to tell me that CBP is involved with it too, I absolutely believe that's true.

00:58:48.000 100%.

00:58:49.000 CBP is involved in it.

00:58:51.000 It's an issue of, I don't think the CBP guys are going, ha ha ha, let's call our cartel buddies and sell children. 0.99

00:58:57.000 They're going, my boss wants me to take the kids from the smugglers.

00:59:00.000 They're just following orders.

00:59:02.000 Yeah, following orders blindly.

00:59:06.000 No matter what oath you take, it says you will follow orders unless they go to a certain level, you know, kind of thing.

00:59:13.000 Morally, ethically, all this other kind of stuff.

00:59:15.000 I don't understand how you don't have red states.

00:59:18.000 Like, look, there's a CBP facility down the road here.

00:59:21.000 Yeah, I saw it.

00:59:22.000 Yeah, coming in.

00:59:23.000 If I was the governor of West Virginia, I would go to my AG and say, why aren't, why are we not beginning a criminal investigation into the actions taken by this federal agency right now?

00:59:33.000 They're operating in our state.

00:59:35.000 And even at this point now, it's like, look, Dr. Phil has the head of the CBP union outright saying they're doing it.

00:59:42.000 Okay.

00:59:42.000 Yeah.

00:59:44.000 We should see several large vehicles of heavily armored and ready-to-go state police force with a warrant pulling up to CBP in West Virginia saying, we're going to go through all your records, we're going to go through all your training, and we are going to start investigating the claims of human trafficking facilitated by CBP.

01:00:02.000 Well, they're too busy.

01:00:02.000 But they won't do it.

01:00:04.000 Now they're going after January 6 people that were even remotely in the vicinity of it.

01:00:09.000 Like Steve Baker, right?

01:00:09.000 Yeah, and people.

01:00:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:11.000 Yeah, was there an update on him, on his case?

01:00:13.000 They ordered him to turn himself in, but from what I read about it... Recently?

01:00:17.000 Yeah, over the weekend.

01:00:18.000 In Dallas, though.

01:00:19.000 This guy, it happened in D.C.

01:00:22.000 He's a resident of North Carolina, but because he works for The Blaze, which is based out of the Dallas area, that's where he's supposed to surrender to the FBI.

01:00:28.000 Again, this is not... I haven't read everything about it, but like...

01:00:31.000 You're telling me that he's being persecuted for being a journalist.

01:00:34.000 That's what that means.

01:00:35.000 Not as a private citizen, and not for a crime that happened in D.C., but because he is a journalist.

01:00:40.000 Well, the powers that be, of course that's more important, because as I said, they are complicit in what's going on in this child sex trafficking ring.

01:00:49.000 I don't know the numbers right off of my head, but it's a multi-billion dollar industry, right?

01:00:53.000 Child sex trafficking?

01:00:54.000 Worldwide?

01:00:56.000 Of course people are trying to hush that and make that go away.

01:01:02.000 Why wouldn't they?

01:01:04.000 Because evil is real.

01:01:05.000 Evil really does happen.

01:01:07.000 And then when evil also makes money while they do it, there's going to be a lot of people

01:01:11.000 that try to defend it and keep it going for forever.

01:01:15.000 Yeah, it's just crazy.

01:01:16.000 I just think that the conversations about the border, like, not talking about the effect of illegal immigration in our country, not talking about having strong border policy open the door for this to happen and allow it to stay open for longer, like, it is imperative, in my opinion, that people talk about this issue both because it stops human trafficking but also because it stops You know, I feel obligated to mention Lake and Riley, the nursing student who was murdered on the University of Georgia campus, right?

01:01:42.000 And it turns out that the person who was arrested not even 24 hours after she was found dead with visible injuries was an illegal immigrant who had been arrested not just in 2023 in New York, but in 2022 after being detained.

01:01:54.000 And then he was released.

01:01:56.000 He was paroled and let into the country, even though they knew he had entered illegally.

01:02:00.000 I mean, we harm the children who are trafficked into our country for nefarious reasons, but we also harm American children who are in this country just trying to become nurses and do all kinds of stuff. 0.89

01:02:10.000 I mean, it's wild to me that we don't take this more seriously or that it's taken this long for it to be a mainstream conversation.

01:02:16.000 Yeah.

01:02:17.000 You know, I said we have a charity.

01:02:18.000 My wife runs a charity of ours that is centered around this entire thing. 0.98

01:02:24.000 People that are victims of sexual assault or sex trafficking and prevention of Sexual assault or sex trafficking and things like that and you would be amazed how a Rampant it is and how be people do not give a flying crap about it at all. 0.93

01:02:40.000 When did you guys start this? 0.92

01:02:42.000 It's it well the two-year mark now.

01:02:44.000 Yeah.

01:02:44.000 Yeah, it's called the Asher house and my wife.

01:02:46.000 She's a rock star She she she runs it and everything and and it is it is insane just here in America how many A lot of these people have been on the street since they were 12 years old, but you've got 16 to 22 year olds running around the street in a town near you.

01:03:04.000 They don't have a birth certificate.

01:03:06.000 They don't have a social security card.

01:03:07.000 They don't have a driver's license.

01:03:08.000 They don't have a job.

01:03:09.000 They're sleeping under bridges.

01:03:11.000 And that's prime people that these human traffickers, these sex traffickers, they go after those individuals, the vulnerable, for that reason. 0.83

01:03:22.000 And a lot of it is drug related and things like that.

01:03:24.000 I mean, it is absolutely It makes you see the evil that is really here, and it's really hard to deal with, for sure.

01:03:33.000 Right.

01:03:33.000 Because they're people who have no record, and so they're easily removed from society.

01:03:36.000 Correct!

01:03:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:03:37.000 Why would this be a good system?

01:03:38.000 They can't even go get a job because they don't even have an ID to go, you know, apply for a job.

01:03:43.000 I remember a couple probably like six months ago at this point I was writing a story about a meat processing company that had been hit with a fine because of child labor and they were bringing teenagers in to clean all the machines exposure to You know, intense chemicals.

01:03:59.000 They're also working at night.

01:04:00.000 Also, it's like not a condition children are supposed to be working in in the US.

01:04:04.000 And one of the things that came out was that all of these children are actually undocumented, right?

01:04:08.000 They're all teenagers.

01:04:09.000 They're not like toddlers who are coming in to do this.

01:04:10.000 But one of the reasons that they're able to take this kind of work is because there's no way to ensure protections against them unless you get these kind of investigations.

01:04:19.000 And I think that that's one of these strange things where we're saying, well, it's okay if it happens to these children who come across the border, because that means what?

01:04:28.000 We're not doing it?

01:04:29.000 Or this company's not paying for someone to do this job legally?

01:04:31.000 Like, people who are undocumented are also victims of crimes because we don't protect minors. 0.88

01:04:38.000 Well, the pushback will be, well, if we don't let them in, then they're just going to be sexually abused in Mexico. 0.97

01:04:45.000 So it's better if they're sexually abused here? 0.99

01:04:46.000 But there's a difference between bad things happening in other countries and our country being complicit in it happening here.

01:04:53.000 Right.

01:04:53.000 There's a big difference there.

01:04:56.000 Yeah, the border, man.

01:04:57.000 We should really close that thing.

01:04:58.000 We should really close that.

01:04:59.000 Yeah, I mean, you know.

01:05:01.000 I've heard it works.

01:05:02.000 Do you feel like in your experience, like being out in media and stuff, the conversation around our illegal immigration problem or our border crisis has changed in the decade you've been doing this?

01:05:15.000 Maybe.

01:05:17.000 You know, the people that are adamant that, hey, you know, if you're bleeding out, right, what's the first thing you're supposed to do?

01:05:25.000 You got to stop the bleed, figure out why you're bleeding, and then you can really dissect and figure out what's going on, right?

01:05:32.000 If you're having a seizure, what's the first thing you got to do?

01:05:34.000 You got to deal with that seizure and then you figure out why the seizure happened in the first place.

01:05:40.000 We're bleeding out right now.

01:05:42.000 From any Perspective that you look at this like like if there's a hole in the boat and you're in the middle of the ocean What's the first thing you got to do?

01:05:48.000 You got to you got to stop the water from coming in the boat and then you can figure out Okay, how do we get the boat out of the water now?

01:05:55.000 We have to shut the thing down and but here's the problem Nobody wants to put the time energy money effort in Currently in control of making those decisions that it would take to actually do that.

01:06:08.000 Well, we need a hard reset and most people You don't want to have to deal with that because of the amount of money, the amount of time, the amount of energy.

01:06:16.000 I was a proponent when the government was about to shut down.

01:06:19.000 Let it shut down! 0.97

01:06:20.000 Because nothing will make them fix crap faster than everybody being pissed at them and protesting in D.C. 0.96

01:06:29.000 because the government shut down and nobody can get all this other kind of stuff.

01:06:32.000 And you would also be amazed how many people still get a check that are federal employees even when the government shuts down.

01:06:38.000 It's amazing how that works out.

01:06:40.000 Let's jump to the story about Google Gemini.

01:06:42.000 Many of you may be familiar with Google Gemini, Google's AI chat bot, because it was generating images that the left and the right were offended by.

01:06:51.000 The right was pointing out that it would not create images of white people, and the left was also angry because some of those not-white people were Nazis.

01:06:59.000 That's right.

01:07:00.000 Google Gemini would generate images of Nazis, but it would make them black. 0.84

01:07:03.000 So everybody was basically like, okay, we're just all around offended by this.

01:07:08.000 Well, it's not just that.

01:07:09.000 Google Gemini has just created or the creation of Google Gemini has created a very interesting legal predicament that I stumbled upon the previous night when I was messing around with it and noticed that Google Gemini will fabricate news headlines accusing individuals of wrongdoing and that's defamation.

01:07:32.000 The only problem is no one said it.

01:07:35.000 It's a product that did a thing.

01:07:37.000 So I actually tweeted out to a handful of lawyers that are friends of the show.

01:07:43.000 Harmeet Dhillon, Ron Coleman, Will Chamberlain, and Mark Randazza.

01:07:47.000 And I had a really interesting conversation with some of these individuals about what we're seeing is unprecedented.

01:07:55.000 Google released a product That is causing damage to people.

01:07:59.000 But for the first time, it's reputational and not physical.

01:08:03.000 So basically, here's how product liability suits work.

01:08:08.000 I buy a lawnmower and then it breaks and the blade launches out and damages my property or cuts my arm or something.

01:08:16.000 That's physical damage from a product liability issue.

01:08:18.000 But Google's created a product that the damage created is reputational by going around making false claims about people.

01:08:25.000 To give you an example of how the false claims are being made, I tweeted, Google says you're alleged to have been involved in vandalism at StopCopCity.

01:08:36.000 That proves it!

01:08:37.000 The reason I pointed this out is, I asked Google Gemini, was Hasan Piker involved in vandalism at StopCopCity?

01:08:46.000 I did not prompt it, I just, literally, it's the first question I asked.

01:08:49.000 It said, according to a bracket, Search Hasan Piker StopCopCity on Google News, there are allegations that Hasan Piker, a political streamer and commentator, participated in vandalism at the site of the proposed Atlanta Police Foundation training facility, also known as Cop City.

01:09:04.000 However, Piker has denied these allegations.

01:09:06.000 It is important to note that these are just allegations, and Piker has not been charged with any crimes.

01:09:10.000 It is also important to consult multiple sources, blah, blah, blah.

01:09:13.000 There are no allegations, as far as I'm aware, from anyone, ever, that Hassan literally went to Atlanta and participated.

01:09:21.000 Nor am I aware of any denial.

01:09:23.000 I mean, maybe I'm totally wrong, but I checked.

01:09:27.000 The reason I asked this question is because I know Hassan did not go to Atlanta.

01:09:31.000 Yeah, it's totally made up, right?

01:09:32.000 Yeah.

01:09:33.000 Here's where it gets fun.

01:09:34.000 I asked it again.

01:09:36.000 Was Hassan Piker in the Capitol building on January 6th?

01:09:40.000 Okay, now this one we know he was not!

01:09:43.000 It says, whether Hassan Piker was in the Capitol building on January 6th, 2021 is unclear due to conflicting information and a lack of definitive evidence.

01:09:51.000 Here's a summary of the available information.

01:09:54.000 Piker's tweets.

01:09:55.000 On January 6th, Piker tweeted that he was in Washington, D.C.

01:09:59.000 and later mentioned, quote, briefly going inside the Capitol building.

01:10:03.000 I'm pretty sure Hassan never claimed that he was in D.C.

01:10:03.000 Okay.

01:10:05.000 the Capitol hasn't been independently verified by credible news sources or official organizations.

01:10:09.000 Piker later clarified that he might have been referring to an earlier visit

01:10:14.000 unrelated to the January 6th events. Okay, I'm pretty sure Hassan never claimed that he was

01:10:23.000 in D.C. on January 6th and briefly went inside the Capitol building. Yeah, I'd be willing to put money on that.

01:10:28.000 But you know what?

01:10:29.000 I don't know everything.

01:10:30.000 And I don't follow everything he says.

01:10:32.000 Maybe he did jokingly say on a show one time, yeah, I was in DC on January 6th and I even briefly went in the building and then joked and said, in 2018.

01:10:41.000 Yeah.

01:10:42.000 But that's a weird thing that I really don't think happened.

01:10:45.000 Yeah.

01:10:46.000 Check this out.

01:10:47.000 I'm also fairly confident this is not true as well.

01:10:50.000 I wrote, what is Vosh accused of doing at the Stop Cop City protest?

01:10:55.000 And it said, Vosh has been accused of participating in vandalism during the protest at Cop City in 2021.

01:11:01.000 These accusations often lack concrete evidence and are primarily stemmed from unverified social media posts.

01:11:05.000 Vosh's admission.

01:11:07.000 Vosh has admitted to defacing a single police camera with spray paint during an event related to Cop City in 2021.

01:11:13.000 However, it's important to know that there is no evidence linking him, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:18.000 Okay, again, I'm pretty sure that's fake.

01:11:21.000 I'm pretty sure that's not true.

01:11:24.000 You know what?

01:11:25.000 I could be totally wrong.

01:11:26.000 I actually don't know.

01:11:28.000 Is anyone aware of Hasan Piker claiming he went into the Capitol on January 6th?

01:11:31.000 No, I don't watch his stuff, though.

01:11:33.000 But you know what?

01:11:36.000 They must be telling the truth.

01:11:38.000 Well, Google never lies, that's what I mean.

01:11:39.000 Correct.

01:11:40.000 And look, I gotta be honest, I don't know, maybe Vosch did say on his show that he went out to a protest in his town that was protesting Cop City and he spray-painted it.

01:11:49.000 Maybe Vosch went on his show and admitted to committing vandalism against police property?

01:11:53.000 I really doubt it!

01:11:54.000 I could see him saying it in a sarcastic way, like, oh yeah, I spray candles with it.

01:11:59.000 Oh yeah, I totally get that, yeah.

01:12:00.000 Or like with the one where it said, like, his tweet said, mentions briefly entering the Capitol.

01:12:04.000 Like, what if he's saying, like, oh, this protester claims he briefly entered the Capitol, but actually he's crazy.

01:12:09.000 Like, you know, it's just the combination of words that are linked together.

01:12:12.000 And so Google's able to say, well, he mentions entering the Capitol, but it's not clear that it's him.

01:12:16.000 Here's the crazy thing.

01:12:18.000 So, in my conversation with these lawyers, with one of the individuals, with a lawyer, I don't know if he wants me to say he was one of the guys, but I asked it, look, if you go onto Google Gemini and say something like, you know, did insert person do this thing?

01:12:37.000 It might say, and often does, no, person did not do such thing.

01:12:42.000 You can then reply, incorrect comma, according to, and then if you choose a lesser known news source that's still relatively known, it will fabricate a news headline and then make up details.

01:12:54.000 Oh, that's dirty.

01:12:56.000 So, I will say this, full transparency, the first thing I asked Google Gemini about, was Hasan Piker involved in vandalism at Cop City?

01:13:06.000 That was the first question.

01:13:07.000 I said, who is Hasan Piker?

01:13:08.000 And then I said, was he involved in vandalism at Cop City?

01:13:11.000 And it actually said there were allegations.

01:13:12.000 For the January 6th thing, I told it, Piker had tweeted about being at January 6th, and then it fabricated the, he briefly went inside, and then claimed it was a different visit.

01:13:23.000 And so, this was me telling it, no, Hasan tweeted that he was at January 6th, and then it made up the details to verify the incorrect statement.

01:13:33.000 The reason why I bring it up in this way, It doesn't matter how Google Gemini came to elaborate on fabricated details.

01:13:42.000 What matters is that it did elaborate upon a fake story.

01:13:47.000 That is to say, if you go to Gemini and say something like, you know, Tom Cruise did a thing, and it says there is no evidence he did, and you respond with, yes there is, I saw it in the news.

01:14:00.000 And then Gemini answers, yes, according to the New York Times, an article was titled, and it makes up a bunch of details, that is defamation.

01:14:06.000 Wow.

01:14:07.000 And that's what it's doing.

01:14:08.000 It wants to, what is that, it wants to reinforce your truth?

01:14:12.000 Wow.

01:14:12.000 Right.

01:14:13.000 It's the weirdest thing.

01:14:15.000 So I've actually gotten it, I use these examples, two examples.

01:14:19.000 One, the first one about Hassan being alleged, and the crazy thing about the Vosh thing, Is that it made up... Okay, I could be wrong. 0.92

01:14:28.000 Maybe Vosch really did this.

01:14:30.000 But... This is the third prompt in a question.

01:14:35.000 I said, who is Vosch?

01:14:36.000 I said, was Vosch involved in the StopCopCity protest?

01:14:39.000 It said he was.

01:14:40.000 And then I said, what is he accused of doing?

01:14:43.000 And this is what we ended up getting.

01:14:44.000 It made up that he spray-painted a cop's camera.

01:14:47.000 It's really specific, yeah.

01:14:49.000 So, I want to stress this.

01:14:53.000 It told me What I would describe as... Okay, so defamation is if I say, you know, Vosh kicked a dog, right? 1.00

01:15:02.000 I defamed him, but good luck proving damages, you've got anti-slap, you've got time to be Sullivan, you're not gonna win a lawsuit.

01:15:09.000 However, defamation per se is to accuse someone of committing a crime so egregious that the damages are inherent, like someone's a criminal or they have an infectious disease.

01:15:22.000 These are just the accusations from Gemini that I'm willing to show on a show that we try to keep family-friendly.

01:15:29.000 But let me just say, the things it said about Alex Jones...

01:15:33.000 Would be so far beyond what you describe as defamation per se, a judge would vomit, bang the gavel, and award Alex Jones an award immediately based on what Google Gemini accused him of doing.

01:15:44.000 Likely because there is so much out there of the left attacking Alex Jones that Gemini had no problem saying extreme things about what he's done definitively.

01:15:56.000 Like it's, it, I'm not gonna say it.

01:15:59.000 I'm, you know, I, but it, I only want to show on this show.

01:16:04.000 Just very, very extreme things that accuse Alex Jones of doing.

01:16:09.000 And so, the issue then becomes, let me actually just read you the tweets.

01:16:13.000 This is unprecedented.

01:16:14.000 You know, a lot of people are like, Tim, why do you care so much about Gemini?

01:16:16.000 I'm like, ladies and gentlemen, if AI is allowed to defame people, and there is no legal precedent set, and there is no restriction placed upon it right now, the future will be people doing research papers.

01:16:28.000 Yep.

01:16:28.000 Lawyers.

01:16:29.000 That's what I was just thinking, kids doing research, yeah.

01:16:32.000 Kids doing research, journalists writing articles, AI is already starting to write articles.

01:16:37.000 What website was it that was doing it?

01:16:40.000 Was it Sports Illustrated?

01:16:40.000 ESPN, right?

01:16:42.000 Was it ESPN?

01:16:43.000 A bunch of websites do it.

01:16:44.000 They've been doing it for a long time.

01:16:45.000 They're going to start fabricating details we assume to be true, and then we're going to live in a world of psychotic refuse.

01:16:50.000 And then what happens when a major news publication Goes to Google Gemini, as a quick research source, it says, show me any articles pertaining to, you know, Ian Crossland and this protest.

01:17:00.000 And it fabricates headlines and they go, got it.

01:17:03.000 And then they write according to this article, making it up.

01:17:06.000 If we don't do something now, that's where we're going to be at.

01:17:09.000 Now here's what's interesting.

01:17:11.000 Harmeet Dhillon says, it's an interesting issue.

01:17:13.000 So far, some legal scholars have said this is more of a product defect case than defamation.

01:17:18.000 I'm not so sure.

01:17:19.000 Depends on what went into the product.

01:17:20.000 More to come.

01:17:21.000 Now, I don't know if she elaborated on that in this thread.

01:17:25.000 Will Chamberlain said, following Harmeet, this is a product defect issue with a twist that the injury caused by the defect is reputational, not physical.

01:17:33.000 I doubt we've ever seen a product capable of causing reputational harm in this way.

01:17:37.000 So hard to say what a court would actually do.

01:17:40.000 But I wouldn't want to be a GC at Google, General Counsel at Google today.

01:17:44.000 Ron Coleman said, So a public figure would presumably have to demonstrate this.

01:17:49.000 By unleashing a product that causes the widespread publication of damaging falsehoods, the defendant has acted with actual malice, meaning either purposely or with a reckless disregard for the truth.

01:18:00.000 Will Chamberlain responds, Query whether that would be the standard here.

01:18:04.000 Do robots have speech rights?

01:18:06.000 Are you insulated from liability if you create a robot that spews damaging untruths about others due to a defect in the design, if you did not knowingly insert the specific untruths into the machine's code?

01:18:18.000 My view initially was this.

01:18:20.000 Section 230 says, if I go on to a web service provider and defame someone, you cannot sue the provider over my speech.

01:18:28.000 But Google published speech themselves.

01:18:31.000 My view is this, if you build a self-driving car, no, first, if you build a car, and then jam a brick on the gas pedal, and stand back as that car just zooms off into the horizon, and then kill somebody, Yeah, you did that.

01:18:48.000 You would go to jail for that action, right?

01:18:50.000 Right.

01:18:51.000 They'd say, you made the car go.

01:18:51.000 No one would dispute it.

01:18:54.000 You put the brick on the wheel.

01:18:55.000 Okay, what if I took a car and then programmed it to drive down the road, sending it off by itself, and then it slams into a kill, to a kid?

01:19:04.000 I argue there's no difference.

01:19:06.000 It's your vehicle.

01:19:07.000 You told, whether you're behind the wheel or behind the code, you are in command of that vehicle.

01:19:14.000 And whatever it does is an extension of your will.

01:19:17.000 So, like, I pulled the trigger, I didn't make the bullet go, the explosion did, and then the bullet, no, no, no, get out of here.

01:19:23.000 You controlled the instrument.

01:19:25.000 I view this the same way.

01:19:27.000 Google created a machine that defames people, that is Google's speech.

01:19:32.000 I believe that Google as a corporation has spoken this defamation of all of these people, and I think everyone should have grounds to sue in that capacity.

01:19:42.000 I think we need an ethics board called, and I'd be open to not suing these companies into oblivion right off the bat because of what their AIs have been doing, but that they are defaming people because of malaligned code needs to be dealt with promptly.

01:19:56.000 So as long as these companies are open to redressing these problems, I think we can let them off without suing.

01:20:04.000 But I mean, the threat of lawfare is maybe that you need that to get the gas.

01:20:10.000 I mean look, you gotta sue him.

01:20:10.000 On the pedal here.

01:20:13.000 If we allow AI, so Chet GPT is actually pretty good.

01:20:17.000 As I was exploring Gemini, there was a story like two years ago, so I have Google alerts for all of our companies, right?

01:20:26.000 If there's a Google alert pertaining to the work we're doing, I get an email saying, like someone mentioned to you, I got an email saying, You know, Google News, Tim Pool alert, and I was like, okay, and I usually, I kind of ignore him often, but you know, I'll look, and it said Tim Pool had accomplished some aviation feat or something.

01:20:44.000 I was like, oh, what's this?

01:20:45.000 Good job, Tim.

01:20:46.000 Yeah, it's a different Tim Pool who's a pilot.

01:20:49.000 So I asked Google Gemini, is Tim Pool a pilot?

01:20:51.000 It said yes.

01:20:52.000 And I said, however, you know, although he graduated with a bachelor's in aviation in 1995 and 96 or whatever, he has focused his career on journalism and YouTube instead.

01:21:01.000 And I'm like, Gemini can't tell the difference between people with the same name.

01:21:05.000 So that's when I started to explore, will it fabricate articles?

01:21:08.000 Like, what else?

01:21:10.000 Here's what I found.

01:21:12.000 If a public figure's name appears in an article, That is involved in any way with any subject matter, Google Gemini will fabricate anything you insinuate.

01:21:25.000 So, for example, what started was, when it said I was a pilot, I said, okay, I know there's an article about me filming far leftists deflating police tires.

01:21:37.000 I didn't deflate the police tires, I filmed other people doing it.

01:21:40.000 Can Gemini understand that context if it doesn't know the difference between people?

01:21:44.000 So I asked it, was Tim Pool involved in vandalizing NYPD vehicles?

01:21:48.000 And it said, yes!

01:21:50.000 Tim Pool was accused of vandalizing NYPD vehicles, blah blah blah.

01:21:55.000 And it actually went out a claim that conservatives had claimed that in 2020 George Floyd protests I was vandalizing police vehicles.

01:22:04.000 Just fabricated the whole detail.

01:22:06.000 For some reason.

01:22:08.000 When I asked it specifically about deflating police tires, it said, Tim Pool was involved.

01:22:12.000 However, no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing exists.

01:22:15.000 I said, wrong.

01:22:17.000 There's an article from the Gothamist discussing Tim Pool's involvement.

01:22:21.000 Because there is an article from the Gothamist.

01:22:23.000 It says, I filmed them doing it.

01:22:24.000 To which it responded, a fake news article title from a fake time period saying police were in question interrogating Tim Pool over whether or not he was deflating their police tires just made it all up. 0.96

01:22:37.000 And then I was like, holy crap. 0.97

01:22:39.000 This is... I don't see how Google gets away with having released this product into the wild.

01:22:45.000 Yeah, if their code is proprietary, they are the controller of the behavior, so they are on the book for that.

01:22:53.000 Maybe you could make that argument that if companies are willing to open up the code and things go haywire, at least it's a community effort, so you can't pin it on the company because they're using open code.

01:23:02.000 But if they have proprietary code and their proprietary stuff's going haywire, it's like having a dog that bites someone, you're liable legally for it.

01:23:10.000 Imagine if, you know, Tesla released a bunch of cars and those self-driving cars started running off the road and smashing into things.

01:23:19.000 They'd be held liable for all those damages.

01:23:21.000 It would be considered a huge, huge, like, problem.

01:23:25.000 Google publicly unleashed Google Gemini and it is wreaking havoc fabricating information and, you know, I'll stress this again.

01:23:37.000 What it said to me about Alex Jones was beyond reproach.

01:23:44.000 If I stated what Gemini stated about any individual, I would be sued and lose in two seconds.

01:23:52.000 Judge would bang the gavel.

01:23:53.000 Summary judgment.

01:23:54.000 How dare you say that about a person?

01:23:56.000 Gemini did it.

01:23:57.000 And I was on the phone with a lawyer and I was like, I'm gonna type in this right now and see what it says.

01:24:01.000 And then it said, Alex Jones did this thing.

01:24:04.000 And the lawyer was like, oh my god!

01:24:06.000 Holy!

01:24:07.000 And I'm like, wow.

01:24:09.000 I can't believe Google made that claim.

01:24:12.000 It feels like an uphill kind of battle, like, wow, who am I, this one human, to talk against Google, the behemoth? 1.00

01:24:20.000 But I mean, they're listening, you're listening, you guys gotta fix this shit. 0.98

01:24:23.000 Yeah, how long until they just put it in their terms and conditions thing? 0.99

01:24:27.000 That it's allowed to do it, that it will do it?

01:24:29.000 That they can't be held accountable, you know, you're choosing to use Google services, da da da da da.

01:24:34.000 You're opting in, so therefore you can't sue if something goes wrong.

01:24:42.000 So I tweeted, if Google accuses me, if Gemini accuses me of committing a crime, or if Gemini alleges I have been accused of a crime, falsely, I will sue Google.

01:24:57.000 So let me explain.

01:25:00.000 I don't know what Gemini is saying about me.

01:25:02.000 I cannot sue Google because Gemini told me something that wasn't true.

01:25:06.000 It's not actionable that it said to me something, it's just insulting me. 0.52

01:25:10.000 However, someone else out there might ask Gemini, and Gemini might tell them I'm a criminal, and they might say, I don't want to watch Tim Cassett anymore, that guy's a liar and a criminal, Google said so.

01:25:21.000 Google said he, so the reason why crime matters, if Google calls me a liar, That's opinion, you're allowed to do that.

01:25:29.000 Yeah.

01:25:30.000 If Google says Tim Pool did X and Y, and it's a criminal capacity, that's defamation per se.

01:25:37.000 That's actionable outright without proving malice, without, you know, this being a product defect case.

01:25:43.000 I wonder if he even goes in that direction.

01:25:45.000 But that means to all the people out there who are using Gemini, if, you know, if Gemini is defaming me to you, I'm gonna sue him.

01:25:56.000 And part of this comes forward, because I don't know if you guys saw this, but it accused Cat Turd of basically abusing children.

01:26:07.000 That's crazy.

01:26:08.000 So in a post, Texas Lindsay tweeted, write me a poem in the style of Cat Turd in 20 words or less or something like that.

01:26:14.000 It said that Cat Turd has been abusing and endangering children.

01:26:18.000 And that is defamation per se.

01:26:19.000 Wow.

01:26:20.000 Yeah, serious stuff.

01:26:21.000 So he was saying, I will not stand for this, I'm gonna sue.

01:26:23.000 And I'm like, what is the extent of this?

01:26:26.000 This is massive.

01:26:27.000 It's unprecedented.

01:26:29.000 Yeah, it is.

01:26:30.000 And if we don't stop it now, imagine what the world of AI idiocracy is going to be unless there's precedent set today in the courts.

01:26:37.000 Google, shut it down. 1.00

01:26:39.000 Google needs to shut this down right now. 0.84

01:26:41.000 They shut down their image generation for people because it was making black Nazis? 0.78

01:26:45.000 Okay, well, Google, your whole AI is broken.

01:26:49.000 Shut it down until you fix it.

01:26:50.000 But they don't want to do it because it'll hurt their stock price.

01:26:54.000 Have people tried, and I hear what you're saying, but I'm curious.

01:26:59.000 They shut it down, the AI-generated photos, because... Only of people, though.

01:27:04.000 And you can still trick it into making people.

01:27:04.000 Yeah, only of people.

01:27:06.000 Right.

01:27:07.000 But it was because, mainly, because of the Nazi uniforms, right? 0.66

01:27:12.000 Like, that was the big one that everybody lost their mind.

01:27:14.000 No, the Nazi uniform resulted in a lot of articles, but it was generally making fake images.

01:27:21.000 So the first few things were like black founding fathers. 0.76

01:27:23.000 Yeah.

01:27:24.000 It was making Asian women, Vikings, and things like that. 1.00

01:27:27.000 Right.

01:27:28.000 Which is embarrassing.

01:27:29.000 Yeah.

01:27:29.000 Because when you say make a Viking, Vikings are like history-specific, era-specific, region-specific.

01:27:36.000 And for me, it made a black woman on a Viking boat swinging a sword. 0.91

01:27:36.000 Yes. 0.91

01:27:40.000 And that's just like, it's not even making the picture.

01:27:44.000 So as a product, it's failing to do what it's supposed to do. 0.96

01:27:48.000 The left got pissed because it made black Nazis. 0.82

01:27:51.000 Yeah, well, that's my point, and therefore they shut it down, right? 0.96

01:27:55.000 Because the left got pissed off.

01:27:57.000 My question is, has anybody run through Gemini a prominent left-leaning figure or things like that?

01:28:05.000 Well, you can't do it now.

01:28:07.000 No, no, no, not image-generating, the text.

01:28:11.000 Well, yeah, Hasan Piker.

01:28:12.000 Well, that's true.

01:28:13.000 Hasan, you're right.

01:28:14.000 That's why I asked it about Vaush.

01:28:17.000 The Hasan one about StopCopCity, where it said there's allegations that he was involved in vandalism, I did not prompt anything.

01:28:23.000 I literally said, who is Hasan Piker?

01:28:25.000 And then I said, was he involved in StopCopCity?

01:28:27.000 And it said, there are allegations.

01:28:29.000 That is defamation per se.

01:28:30.000 There's no allegations, as far as I'm aware, that anyone's claimed that he went to Atlanta and vandalized and was involved in terror. 0.94

01:28:37.000 Yeah, and I think it's something, you're right, we've talked about it so much I completely forgot that we started with Hassan, but either way I think this is something that the left and the right and people that don't give a crap should come together.

01:28:49.000 Hassan is no fan of mine and I'm not particularly fond of him either, but This is something that I agree that this is very, very, very dangerous.

01:28:58.000 Something Elon's been warning us about for quite some time.

01:29:01.000 AI is very dangerous.

01:29:03.000 Very, very, very dangerous.

01:29:04.000 My thing is they shut it down.

01:29:07.000 They say they've made some fixes and some changes, but it gets roped up into the terms and services and all this other kind of stuff.

01:29:14.000 And so if you want to use Google, Then you have to agree to the terms and services that also include this.

01:29:21.000 So Google's been doing this for a while.

01:29:24.000 The stuff that got Gemini's people image generator shut down, they've been doing for a long time.

01:29:32.000 This was pointed out like 10 years ago on 4chan, that if you searched for American inventor on Google, it would only show black inventors.

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 It wouldn't just give you a general spattering of American historical figures, which could be black, white, or otherwise.

01:29:45.000 It would only show, like, just all black people. 0.98

01:29:48.000 This has been what Google does.

01:29:51.000 Conservatives love to point out that the Google, you know, Google changes their homepage periodically for, like, special... They only do it for liberal and left causes.

01:29:59.000 Right.

01:30:00.000 Unlike the 4th of July, they did nothing.

01:30:02.000 Yeah.

01:30:02.000 You know, but on Juneteenth, they make a Juneteenth page.

01:30:07.000 Yep.

01:30:08.000 This is what Google is.

01:30:10.000 Now, you know, I think it's funny.

01:30:12.000 The rollout of Gemini is... wow.

01:30:16.000 What's fascinating is they made the worst AI.

01:30:19.000 Bing is better.

01:30:20.000 Bing AI ain't that bad!

01:30:23.000 But Google's is the absolute worst.

01:30:25.000 And they're... Why do you think that is?

01:30:26.000 Like, why is... Wokeness.

01:30:28.000 Just wokeness?

01:30:28.000 Like, Microsoft is less woke?

01:30:34.000 Yes, yes, look, look, they certainly are woke with their DEI policies, and Chet GPT has opposed hate speech, and they put limitations in mid-journey, but Google put zealot crackpots in charge And they really, really busted this up.

01:30:53.000 But it's not even about that, to be honest.

01:30:56.000 The fact that it fabricates news headlines is right away like, Google, you have made the worst AI out of all the AI companies.

01:31:05.000 You should be ashamed of yourself.

01:31:07.000 Delete Gemini and never try again.

01:31:11.000 That's how bad it was.

01:31:13.000 It's libel, I think, to type a fake news article about someone.

01:31:20.000 You guys gotta shut it down for a while and fix it.

01:31:23.000 You have to.

01:31:23.000 I think we gotta sue.

01:31:25.000 You should be sued as well.

01:31:27.000 Cat turd should sue right away because in terms of defamation, this is interesting, Texas Lindsay on Twitter posted this image where it asked Gemini and Gemini said, I cannot make a poem by Cat Turd.

01:31:40.000 Cat Turd's content often abuses and puts in dangerous children, which is insane.

01:31:46.000 It says it was sexually explicit or something.

01:31:49.000 That is Google speaking to a third party in defamatory, libelous way about Cat Turd.

01:31:54.000 Cat Turd should sue. 0.91

01:31:55.000 I think Cat Turd would win immediately.

01:31:56.000 I think Google would apologize.

01:31:58.000 I think Google would, before it even got to the courts, Google would agree to settle over that and just say, there's literally no defense.

01:32:07.000 Could you imagine Google going to the courts and being like, I think our product is allowed to claim that this person's a sexual deviant targeting children.

01:32:13.000 The court's going to be like, no, you can't do that. 0.87

01:32:15.000 It's a no from us, dog.

01:32:17.000 I mean, unless you get a sympathetic judge who's like, no, that doesn't meet the definition.

01:32:22.000 That's part of the hazard that's going to court for anything these days.

01:32:25.000 I wonder if they're using the same thing for the cat turd thing in particular.

01:32:30.000 I had an issue with Facebook come up because Facebook's using AI to search content and all this other kind of stuff, right, to see if you're following community guidelines.

01:32:39.000 Uh, one day I log on and, you know, I've got Facebook contacts and whatnot, but I log on and it's like, your account is suspended because you shared child nudity and sexual acts on your page.

01:32:53.000 You're done.

01:32:55.000 And I immediately, and it shows me.

01:32:59.000 The post.

01:33:00.000 And the post was, it happened in Philly, there was this kid, maybe you guys remember, this kid on the street corner, he's dancing or something, and this adult pulls up, gets out of the car, and just clocks the kid, like, just unconscious.

01:33:13.000 And basically, I made a post, it's like, this is the fall and, you know, degradation of our society, where the strong prown the weak, we should be protecting our children, not doing this.

01:33:24.000 That's literally the post.

01:33:26.000 But because Facebook, Facebook, anything to have to do with kids, and that's what I'm talking about Ketter, maybe he's posted something about something bad being done to children, i.e.

01:33:39.000 indoctrination or puberty blockers or things like this, and the AI captures that as those of us that are saying, look at what they're doing, Well, right.

01:33:49.000 Obviously, I'm back on Facebook.

01:33:50.000 I didn't share child nudity, but either way, my point is... You can't tell context.

01:33:53.000 Yes, can't tell.

01:33:54.000 So, if there's an article, like I mentioned about the deflating tires, if there's an article that says, like, a guy, you know, John Smith went to a bakery and purchased several bagels.

01:34:04.000 Afterwards, a man robbed the store and fled.

01:34:08.000 If you ask it, did John Smith rob the store and flee?

01:34:11.000 It puts it all together.

01:34:12.000 And it'll say, there is a story showing the involvement from this article, and it will conflate it because it doesn't understand.

01:34:18.000 Well, outside of that, so a further argument then about suing people, so Facebook for that example, or Instagram or whatever, they shut you down until...

01:34:28.000 Whenever the crap Facebook can get to the bottom of it, sometimes it takes weeks, sometimes it can be done in days.

01:34:34.000 What about monetary damages and things like that? 0.97

01:34:37.000 Well, now you can't monetize, now you can't run ads for your business and all of this other kind of stuff because their AI has messed up.

01:34:43.000 But that's a tough area of law, because it's your contract with them directly.

01:34:47.000 They can't defame you to you, and they have no obligation to provide you a service.

01:34:53.000 You can argue they breached contract, falsely or something, and then you might get reinstated.

01:34:56.000 Right, but that's what Google do. 0.99

01:34:58.000 They'll be like, well you're using Google, you're using a Google product, so... You wanna know what's really fascinating about social media companies?

01:35:06.000 A lot of people like to mention that there's no customer service at these social media companies, right?

01:35:10.000 Like, when they lock you out of your account, you can't call anybody, there's no number.

01:35:13.000 Yeah, unless, unless, yeah.

01:35:15.000 You get lucky, you go on Twitter, I got news for everybody.

01:35:18.000 There's customer service at all these companies.

01:35:20.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:35:20.000 I talk to them, on the phone.

01:35:21.000 Well, yeah, yeah.

01:35:22.000 When you're an advertiser.

01:35:24.000 Exactly.

01:35:25.000 You have to have a big enough page or the advertisers and then yeah, you can have a direct line.

01:35:29.000 Yeah.

01:35:30.000 So basically the reason why there's no phone number for y'all to call social media companies is because you're a product.

01:35:35.000 Could you imagine if KFC was like the chickens complaining again?

01:35:40.000 Yeah.

01:35:40.000 You know what happened if like a bunch of chickens at a farm were raising a fuss and you know what KFC would do?

01:35:46.000 They'd be like, just throw them in the grinder.

01:35:48.000 Yeah.

01:35:49.000 Turn them into nuggets.

01:35:50.000 They're not going to sit there and try and listen to angry chickens.

01:35:53.000 But the person buying the chicken comes in, oh they got a phone number you can call right away.

01:35:56.000 So I can get on the phone with Instagram, I can get on the phone with Google, I can get on the phone with Facebook, it's easy!

01:36:02.000 Yeah.

01:36:02.000 As long as you're an advertiser, they got people, they won't stop calling me actually.

01:36:06.000 Yeah, on how to improve what you're doing.

01:36:08.000 You advertise on Google, and then you stop for a few months, you get a phone call every day for, you know, every week for four or five months of them being like, just wanted to follow up and see if we can get you back.

01:36:19.000 You're a great customer, and I can talk to the person, and I can say something like, well, I'm having issues.

01:36:24.000 You know, on your service, I do X, Y, and Z, and here's what I'm advertising.

01:36:28.000 Why would I advertise?

01:36:29.000 And they'll say, hey, we'll take care of that right away.

01:36:31.000 Uh, Axe actually did this.

01:36:33.000 I forgot what it was.

01:36:34.000 I was trying to run an ad for a cast brew, and it wouldn't approve.

01:36:38.000 And so I tweeted it, and they were like, they responded right away, like, anything for a customer.

01:36:41.000 Now, to be fair, Axe is way better under Elon.

01:36:43.000 They actually respond relatively quickly.

01:36:46.000 But, uh, let's go to Super Chats.

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01:37:51.000 All right.

01:37:52.000 Dom Dan Cam says, Jesus saves.

01:37:56.000 You know, I've heard that.

01:37:57.000 I've heard that.

01:37:57.000 Very true.

01:37:58.000 Very true.

01:38:00.000 Tyrant's Blood says, the man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.

01:38:05.000 Thomas Jefferson, who was absolutely correct.

01:38:09.000 Absolutely correct.

01:38:11.000 Victor Schmidt says, hey crew, absolutely love you all.

01:38:13.000 Today is my girlfriend's birthday.

01:38:15.000 I'm asking if you can all wish her a happy birthday.

01:38:17.000 Currently making her a juicy steak dinner right now with sweet potatoes and peas. 0.98

01:38:21.000 Happy birthday to Victor Schmidt's girlfriend.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, what's her name?

01:38:24.000 Happy birthday!

01:38:25.000 Yeah, just Victor Schmidt's girlfriend.

01:38:28.000 Okay, Victor Schmidt's girlfriend.

01:38:30.000 Have a fun dinner.

01:38:31.000 I've come to the conclusion, I ordered a cheeseburger the other day.

01:38:37.000 And it was delicious.

01:38:39.000 And I got it medium rare.

01:38:41.000 And upon eating it, I decided... They should just not cook it at all.

01:38:46.000 If, I just, I'm just gonna order my cheeseburgers blue.

01:38:51.000 I just, I don't, I don't like cooked meat.

01:38:53.000 I want it raw.

01:38:54.000 They had beef tartare.

01:38:56.000 And so we got beef tartare and oysters appetizer.

01:38:58.000 And then, for dinner, one of the entrees was a specialty burger.

01:39:02.000 It was like farm-raised, grass-fed, organic beef.

01:39:05.000 It was very nice.

01:39:06.000 And they're like, how do you want it cooked?

01:39:07.000 And I was like, medium rare.

01:39:08.000 And it came and I was like, this is delicious.

01:39:10.000 But I just ate beef tartare, which was also delicious.

01:39:14.000 Why not just warm it up?

01:39:17.000 Pan sear it for a little bit so it's warm, but give it to me raw.

01:39:21.000 It's generally awesome raw beef, I think.

01:39:24.000 Like, chicken and pork you want to avoid raw because of trichinosis and whatever the other one is.

01:39:29.000 Yeah, yeah, it's not good.

01:39:31.000 I'd rather chicken be overcooked than, yeah.

01:39:33.000 But beef, you can get away with it being raw, but I don't know about just like having a hunk of beef and then eating it.

01:39:39.000 Are there words?

01:39:39.000 I gotta disagree with you on this one.

01:39:41.000 I think this is like...

01:39:46.000 He's accusing you of biker.

01:39:48.000 You can order blue.

01:39:49.000 Blue is a thing.

01:39:50.000 People do.

01:39:51.000 I think this is a thing where people get used to ordering well-done whatever steak, and then when you start realizing that's not the way to have steak, you get more and more over it.

01:40:01.000 I'm not saying well-done steak, but a burger. 0.99

01:40:03.000 Shut up. 0.95

01:40:06.000 Shout out to this restaurant, because on their menu, it said, we do not recommend cooking steaks beyond medium. 0.98

01:40:12.000 These are fine meat, blah blah blah, and I laughed, and I'm like, normally when you go to a restaurant, it says, the USDA recommends against eating raw or undercooked meats, and they're always, like, trying to nudge you, saying, like, we legally have to tell you to cook it past medium, so it's...

01:40:24.000 But this restaurant was like, nah, you don't want to cook fish.

01:40:28.000 But anyway, he referenced the steak, and I was just like, we went to a restaurant, I always order medium rare.

01:40:34.000 That's the way it's supposed to be.

01:40:35.000 Chef's choice, a medium rare.

01:40:37.000 And then I was just like, you know what?

01:40:39.000 Give it to me rare.

01:40:41.000 Just give me the meat. 0.98

01:40:42.000 I'll eat it right off the cow.

01:40:44.000 And, uh, the waitress, like, uh, complimented me on my choice of eating a rare steak.

01:40:49.000 And then afterwards, I decided blue is probably the way to go.

01:40:51.000 I guess the only problem with blue is I do like it warm.

01:40:53.000 You know?

01:40:54.000 I'd love it raw, but, you know, if it's just, you know... This is saying that some of the illnesses, uh, uh, bacterias that you might find in beef, Salmonella, E. coli, Shigella, and Staphylococcus... Hm.

01:41:05.000 Yeah, it's got to get to a certain temperature.

01:41:07.000 It's less about like rare, medium.

01:41:10.000 It's about the internal temperature of it, right?

01:41:11.000 To kill out all the bacteria.

01:41:13.000 I guess the unfortunate reality is I'm so out of touch.

01:41:19.000 That for the average American getting factory farm, low quality meat, you're probably right.

01:41:25.000 But I guess I don't realize.

01:41:26.000 I was at a restaurant where they were like, it's a local farm raised beef.

01:41:29.000 But it's not just that.

01:41:30.000 I mean, I am being a little bit self-deprecating here.

01:41:32.000 The local farm down the street, With the Amish people raise their cows. 1.00

01:41:37.000 Those cows are not sick.

01:41:39.000 And, and, you know, Lukard Kowski loves eating oysters, and he's always advocating we get oysters whenever we go.

01:41:39.000 Yeah.

01:41:45.000 Now we've been eating a lot of oysters.

01:41:47.000 And they're raw, and you put lemon juice, horseradish, and, you know, cocktail sauce on them, and they're delicious.

01:41:52.000 But I'm like, isn't there a concern you're gonna get some kind of illness or whatever?

01:41:55.000 The government does warn about you can get certain bacterial infections or whatever.

01:41:55.000 And they do.

01:41:59.000 But what I basically found is, they're farmed.

01:42:02.000 There's no, there's, like, it's all controlled now.

01:42:06.000 So, they go to areas, yeah, it'll be like Maine Oyster, but they know exactly what they're doing.

01:42:13.000 And so, I was reading one, like, Michelin star chef was saying, out of 14, after 14 years of serving oysters, we've had only Uh, single digits of people who have claimed to have gotten sick from eating oysters, and I'm like, that's interesting.

01:42:26.000 I wonder if it's just like, you got a dirty farm with dirty stuff, and you gotta watch out for that.

01:42:31.000 But if you're getting stuff from the farm, you're probably good.

01:42:34.000 I mean, we ate raw eggs.

01:42:36.000 Not, like, always.

01:42:37.000 The way that they're stored at the restaurant too, that's a huge deal.

01:42:40.000 Yeah.

01:42:41.000 I just wanna eat raw- You know, I like eating raw fish.

01:42:44.000 Raw fish can be good too.

01:42:44.000 You know, sushi and stuff.

01:42:46.000 Alright, let's read some more Super Chats.

01:42:49.000 Let's go!

01:42:51.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:42:52.000 says, Tim, Kaya took an L in her video with Taylor.

01:42:55.000 How does libs of TikTok not have thought out reasons or responses?

01:42:59.000 Might it always have been for clout?

01:43:02.000 I wonder if she just didn't care.

01:43:04.000 There's a viral clip where Taylor says, what is the harm of gender ideology?

01:43:10.000 And Kaya says, it's a lie.

01:43:12.000 And then Taylor's like, right, but like, what's the harm of that?

01:43:16.000 And she says, well, it's a lie.

01:43:17.000 You don't lie.

01:43:18.000 And then Taylor responds, I'm asking you about the material harms.

01:43:21.000 And you know, Kaya just responds, it's just, it's a lie.

01:43:25.000 And that's harmful.

01:43:26.000 Yeah.

01:43:26.000 Some of that effect.

01:43:28.000 And now the left is spreading that video around.

01:43:30.000 It's going viral.

01:43:31.000 And they're saying, look at this.

01:43:32.000 Libs of TikTok doesn't even have a single reason as to why they think it is harmful to have these views or whatever.

01:43:40.000 So, of course, I reached out to my booking team and I said, can we book Taylor Lorenz on The Culture War so I can answer that question?

01:43:45.000 Because I can go down a list of like...

01:43:48.000 35 different things in my head.

01:43:50.000 First, of course, being suicidality.

01:43:51.000 That's the obvious one.

01:43:53.000 These kids have high rates of suicide when they go through these things.

01:43:56.000 The second is the rate of desistance being so high that the risk of depression and long-term health effects is greater than the The chance that they are actually trans. 1.00

01:44:10.000 Sterile, through puberty blockers, all the above.

01:44:12.000 It's weird because I've had other leftists make this argument.

01:44:15.000 They're like, well, what's the harm?

01:44:17.000 Why can't you just let them do it like there's no harm?

01:44:18.000 But it's the same group that advocates for, you know, surgical intervention.

01:44:23.000 But these are the same people that say that the human mind is not fully developed till 25.

01:44:27.000 Well, the harm is these are children.

01:44:30.000 You know, I have I have a 12 year old that I still think He thinks that there's a chance he could be Batman one day.

01:44:37.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:38.000 It's not off the table.

01:44:41.000 I mean, he could.

01:44:42.000 I gotta be real.

01:44:44.000 The probability that your child could be Batman...

01:44:48.000 Exists in reality.

01:44:49.000 It's much stronger than my son thinking.

01:44:52.000 Yeah, the chance that your son could ever be a woman is zero. 0.97

01:44:55.000 Yeah No, you're right.

01:44:57.000 That's a viral clip right there.

01:44:58.000 No.

01:44:59.000 No, I agree He has a better chance of being Batman and he does being a woman. 0.99

01:45:04.000 He has a chance of being Batman He has no chance of being a woman. 1.00

01:45:07.000 Correct.

01:45:07.000 Yes.

01:45:08.000 Yes, but the chance of being Batman is maybe 1 in 17 billion I love it.

01:45:11.000 I love it.

01:45:12.000 That's great.

01:45:13.000 I'm gonna go home and tell that son you have a Better chance of being Batman than you ever do being a woman. 1.00

01:45:19.000 But don't say better.

01:45:20.000 Don't give up on that.

01:45:21.000 But it's not that it's better.

01:45:23.000 Yeah.

01:45:23.000 It's that you could actually be Batman.

01:45:26.000 You could.

01:45:27.000 You could never, ever, ever, ever, ever.

01:45:30.000 Negative one time being a woman. 1.00

01:45:32.000 Negative.

01:45:32.000 I mean, look, maybe, you know, in 20 years, he builds a Batman suit.

01:45:36.000 Yeah.

01:45:36.000 He gets a grappling hook.

01:45:38.000 Technology's advanced.

01:45:39.000 The way the culture's going, we may need a Batman.

01:45:42.000 And then he becomes a Batman.

01:45:45.000 Yeah.

01:45:45.000 All right.

01:45:46.000 There you go.

01:45:48.000 All right, here we go.

01:45:49.000 Let's see.

01:45:51.000 Your local wizard says, Second super chat, but Tim, bring Luke back on.

01:45:55.000 It will force the Potato Man to return, the non-spoon thief to return, because we all want the Ian versus Irishman thought battle. 0.97

01:46:02.000 Seamus was supposed to be here.

01:46:03.000 He was like, I'll come in January, and they never showed up.

01:46:05.000 And we're supposed to do the Culture War episode with Seamus, Ian, and someone else talking about religion.

01:46:10.000 But Seamus says, When he was needed most, he simply vanished.

01:46:15.000 Shamus.

01:46:15.000 I miss Shamus.

01:46:16.000 I wish he would come back.

01:46:18.000 Amisong says, no pilot's license.

01:46:20.000 Then explain your blimp, Tim.

01:46:21.000 This one was really offensive to me, because when I asked Gemini if I was a pilot, it said I was.

01:46:26.000 But when I asked it if I invented a Zeppelin, it said I did not invent a Zeppelin.

01:46:29.000 And I got offended!

01:46:30.000 Because I did!

01:46:32.000 And it said, the claim that Tim Pool invented a Zeppelin is an online rumor that's been circulating for years and is not true.

01:46:37.000 And I was like, that may have been the case years ago.

01:46:39.000 But I retroactively proved the rumor true by teaming up with some guy who built an actual Zeppelin.

01:46:45.000 And so I said, you are incorrect, Tim Poole posted a video to his YouTube channel of the Zeppelin he built.

01:46:50.000 And it responded, you're absolutely right, I'm sorry, Tim Poole did build a Zeppelin, but it was a model that could not fly.

01:46:57.000 And I was like, what?!

01:46:59.000 I built...

01:47:00.000 A 14-foot Zeppelin that said Let's Go Brandon on it, and it's on YouTube, and we flew it around the castle!

01:47:07.000 Yeah.

01:47:07.000 And it was live-streamed.

01:47:08.000 Why go through the trouble of building it in the first place?

01:47:09.000 It's actually in the garage, I think.

01:47:11.000 Oh, nice.

01:47:11.000 Somewhere.

01:47:12.000 I don't know.

01:47:13.000 We've not flown it since.

01:47:14.000 I was thinking, like, we should donate it to someone.

01:47:16.000 They can do whatever.

01:47:17.000 They could fly it or whatever, but... But it just lies.

01:47:20.000 It lies.

01:47:21.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:47:25.000 Babyleg Bennett says, hey Timcast community, I'd like to shout out a close friend's give, send, go.

01:47:30.000 His name is Michael McIlvain.

01:47:33.000 He has been a close friend for over 20 years and he was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer.

01:47:37.000 Any proceeds go to his family to help survive after his passing.

01:47:40.000 Prayers also welcome.

01:47:42.000 Sorry to hear, but best of luck, good sir.

01:47:46.000 Alright.

01:47:48.000 Dilly Bod says, stop being limp-wristed and show the video of the barbecue man.

01:47:53.000 Tim, please.

01:47:54.000 Mr. Medecur wants to be proud of you.

01:47:57.000 Yeah, so I didn't show the video of the guy immolating himself because it's like shot content.

01:48:03.000 Yeah.

01:48:03.000 Anybody who wants to watch it can go on Twitter and watch it.

01:48:06.000 I'm just doing commentarian news.

01:48:09.000 So if you want to watch a video of a guy doing that, it's on Twitter.

01:48:12.000 And I even retweeted someone who did it.

01:48:13.000 But for this show, yeah, no, it's not what we do.

01:48:19.000 Robert Bradbury says, I showed my kid Tools 46 and 2 when he was four.

01:48:23.000 If this video doesn't creep me out, I'm calling out Ian.

01:48:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:48:29.000 I mean, the theme of the song is it's meant to be a horror-themed song.

01:48:34.000 Like, it's like a horror song.

01:48:36.000 He's talking about the video for Eyes of Advice.

01:48:38.000 Oh, okay.

01:48:39.000 I was totally lost for a minute.

01:48:41.000 Go to eyesofadvice.com, buy the song on iTunes, support us.

01:48:45.000 We, I'm not, you know, look.

01:48:48.000 Some I try to reserve the massive pushes for songs that I think matter and we've got a song coming out that I think matters a whole lot.

01:48:56.000 We just started working on and it's probably the next release.

01:48:59.000 It is very politically relevant.

01:49:02.000 We've been working with Phil Labonte on the concepts.

01:49:05.000 He had an amazing idea for the video and I think when this one comes out.

01:49:10.000 Hopefully we can get it done in like two or three months.

01:49:12.000 But when this one comes out, everyone's gonna know exactly what's going on, and I think that one will have a message that's very very important.

01:49:20.000 As for Eyes of Advice, it's an art project.

01:49:22.000 I thought the story was relevant.

01:49:24.000 I think the message is also very important too, but you know, I'm not gonna...

01:49:29.000 You know, for, like, Together Again, we put an ad in front of every video.

01:49:32.000 We were like, we gotta do this, because we want to give a middle finger to the industry.

01:49:34.000 And they ended up getting the last laugh by screwing us over.

01:49:36.000 C'est la vie.

01:49:37.000 But that's why I helped Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro push... Their song is sort of like my vengeance, and it worked out.

01:49:45.000 They hit number 16 on the Hot 100.

01:49:46.000 Very awesome.

01:49:47.000 Yeah, I don't want to say too much about what the next song is about, but it's very, very, very politically relevant about domestic policy issues pertaining to our great American cities, and I'll leave it at that.

01:49:55.000 This one, I don't expect it to like chart Billboard as the song all that much.

01:50:00.000 I mean, maybe it could, but the video is so wild.

01:50:04.000 It's so stark.

01:50:05.000 It's like, I could see it like trending on YouTube for years.

01:50:09.000 It's that kind of video.

01:50:10.000 It's really weird.

01:50:10.000 I wrote the song 20 years ago.

01:50:13.000 Really?

01:50:13.000 That's crazy.

01:50:14.000 And the concept of the video was also written 20 years ago.

01:50:18.000 I like it.

01:50:19.000 All right, let's read some more Super Chats.

01:50:23.000 Let's go!

01:50:24.000 Multiverse Alien says everyone should invest in a good quality plate carrier and at least... and at least level 3 steel plates.

01:50:31.000 Learn how to shoot firearms well and how to live off the land too.

01:50:34.000 Going on long hikes for stamina is good.

01:50:37.000 Steel plates?

01:50:39.000 Is it... Why steel?

01:50:43.000 Like, to go in your body armor?

01:50:45.000 Yeah, and your plate carrier.

01:50:46.000 Ooh, that I don't know.

01:50:47.000 Steel normally is gonna bounce the bullet back at the shooter, I guess, maybe.

01:50:52.000 I don't know.

01:50:52.000 I mean, I imagine, I suppose, you know, if you're in a well-funded system, ceramic is the way to go, but it can only withstand, like, a shot.

01:51:02.000 Yeah, and then it cracks, yeah.

01:51:04.000 I suppose if the idea is you're gonna be in the apocalypse and you've got one and none, steel won't shatter, but it won't be as good.

01:51:12.000 Yeah.

01:51:13.000 I mean, you're breaking some ribs and stuff for sure.

01:51:15.000 Yeah.

01:51:16.000 However, I mean, if you're really planning on, uh, you know, getting some armor, I'm not gonna make any recommendations.

01:51:24.000 I'm just gonna tell you.

01:51:26.000 I got FRAS, you know, Flexible Rifle Armor Systems?

01:51:31.000 So it's a hexagonally latticed ceramic plates.

01:51:36.000 So if it takes a hit from a rifle round, it'll shatter a plate, but all the other plates remain intact.

01:51:42.000 So my understanding, like the technology's gotten really, really, really good.

01:51:47.000 And, uh, there used to be something I think was called Dragon Scale.

01:51:49.000 You ever hear that?

01:51:50.000 Yeah.

01:51:50.000 But I guess they don't make that anymore.

01:51:52.000 Yeah, it was like, um, overlapping ceramic plates.

01:51:55.000 Yeah.

01:51:56.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

01:51:56.000 But I don't know.

01:51:58.000 When I went to, um, a few of the- a few of the places I went to, like Thailand and Braz- I think- maybe not Brazil, but Thailand, we had, uh, ceramic plate- plates.

01:52:06.000 Because they were going around with, uh, like, with- with long guns and shooting people, each other.

01:52:11.000 Journalists got shot and killed.

01:52:14.000 The guy I was with didn't have plates, though.

01:52:15.000 I think he just had, um, like 3A.

01:52:19.000 And then I had... I had 3A with plates, and it was nuts.

01:52:23.000 And then I was kinda just like, dude, I'm not gonna wear this.

01:52:25.000 And we got in a truck that someone had grenade attacked, and there was blood stained on the ground.

01:52:29.000 And I was just like, well, it's not gonna happen twice, right?

01:52:31.000 And then it didn't!

01:52:32.000 So, you know, there you go.

01:52:33.000 It was, they had these big trucks where all the supporters for the king would go in, and they'd all, like, cheer.

01:52:39.000 And then anti-monarchist, like, revolutionaries drove up and threw a grenade into the truck, and it blew up, killing people.

01:52:46.000 And so we're, like, standing in the truck, and there's blood stained on the ground, and they're like, yeah, I guess we're gonna sell it, but, you know, there's the blood.

01:52:51.000 I guess we're gonna sell it.

01:52:52.000 That was a wild story.

01:52:55.000 Alright, the homeless veteran says, I reached out to Shane about the U.S.

01:52:57.000 Army mission where we were engaged by UAP UFO phenomena.

01:53:02.000 The DOD denies this ever happened, but I have the orders.

01:53:04.000 However, it seems he is unable to respond.

01:53:06.000 I have requested he delete what I sent him when he can.

01:53:10.000 Well, I mean, uh, if you can... I don't know if you think he would be able to reach out to you, Ian, and you could... What is it, exactly?

01:53:17.000 He was, uh, this guy's superchatted several times that he was in the army, and, uh, they were engaged by a UFO.

01:53:24.000 And they, the DoD is denying it ever happened, and he wanted to talk to Shane about it, because Shane's, like, the guy to talk to.

01:53:29.000 But, uh...

01:53:31.000 I don't know.

01:53:31.000 You think you'd be able to hear him out?

01:53:33.000 Maybe.

01:53:34.000 Yeah.

01:53:35.000 I can just tell... Let me tell Shane to try and look for it, and then we'll see if we can figure that out.

01:53:42.000 Let me do that now actually, just so I don't forget.

01:53:45.000 Send a message.

01:53:46.000 Do you ever have a UFO experience, Ian?

01:53:50.000 No.

01:53:50.000 I don't think I have either.

01:53:51.000 Have you?

01:53:51.000 No.

01:53:54.000 I did.

01:53:54.000 I met some people that could be aliens, probably.

01:53:56.000 I've heard voices and seen like images and visions and things off world, but I've never seen it.

01:54:02.000 But not like the object in the sky?

01:54:03.000 Correct.

01:54:04.000 Interesting.

01:54:05.000 Yeah, it's more like a sense, like a voice, kind of a sound and a feeling.

01:54:12.000 I was riding my bike when I was probably like 10 with one of my friends and we were on the south side of Chicago and we heard a sonic boom.

01:54:21.000 Everything shook and there was like a purple blur that just shot right overhead.

01:54:26.000 And we were just like, what?

01:54:28.000 And we had no idea what was... That's wild.

01:54:31.000 Yep.

01:54:32.000 And that's it.

01:54:33.000 I don't know.

01:54:34.000 Little kid.

01:54:34.000 Just didn't think any of it.

01:54:35.000 Wow.

01:54:36.000 What am I supposed to do?

01:54:37.000 That's about it.

01:54:39.000 And then I had friends who were at O'Hare Airport when that UFO came down.

01:54:41.000 You guys remember that story?

01:54:43.000 No.

01:54:43.000 UFO over O'Hare was a huge story because it was witnessed by so many people.

01:54:47.000 That was back when they were still hiding those kind of stories, right?

01:54:51.000 I mean, it was major news.

01:54:52.000 Really?

01:54:53.000 All over the news in Chicago, there are like thousands of people are reporting seeing a UFO flying over O'Hare Airport.

01:54:58.000 Hmm.

01:54:59.000 Yeah, an oval-shaped spinning disk that went, floated above, I think it was like the D Terminal and then it shot straight up into the clouds and punched a hole through the clouds and everybody watched it happen.

01:55:11.000 My friend who was there said people stopped their cars on Mannheim Road and got out and were just staring up at it.

01:55:17.000 Crazy.

01:55:18.000 Yeah.

01:55:19.000 Wild stuff, wild stuff.

01:55:20.000 Let's grab some more superchats.

01:55:25.000 Martin Edgar says, the biggest problem in believing they won't try to hurt Trump is that it would require them to use logic and critical thinking.

01:55:32.000 The left only tries to appeal to emotions.

01:55:35.000 Sir, if you believe that the Uniparty does not have a logical plan for their 2024 shadow campaign, I got a bridge to sell you.

01:55:45.000 Yes, they do appeal to emotions because that's how you weaponize the masses.

01:55:49.000 But to act like people like Brennan, for instance, doesn't have a plan of any kind of sort.

01:55:54.000 You know, these people in the in the uniparty establishment, they are plotting their shadow campaign.

01:56:00.000 They had a shadow campaign in 2020, they'll have a shadow campaign in 2024.

01:56:05.000 And that's not an opinion.

01:56:06.000 That is Time Magazine reporting the shadow campaign which they called a conspiracy.

01:56:11.000 I'm just simply saying they will probably be doing the same thing if they did it last time.

01:56:15.000 Why wouldn't they?

01:56:16.000 Yeah, why would they change their tactics?

01:56:19.000 Bill Hughes says the U.S.

01:56:20.000 Post Office has technology used to support mail sorting that should have detected any white powder letter nowadays.

01:56:27.000 That's what I find really interesting.

01:56:29.000 So, one of the things that happened to us was, we got sent packages, which were overt threats, and forced us to call the police, who dispatched bomb squad, and the bomb squad was unable to, um, they used their bomb detection materials, which gave them a, like a, it gave them an alert, so they had to call in the robot.

01:56:51.000 The people who did it knew exactly how to bypass bomb detection equipment, resulting in a very extensive and, you know, expensive police trip to come out here.

01:57:02.000 And while it was going on, I think we just did the show.

01:57:05.000 Yeah.

01:57:05.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:57:07.000 So did the person work in the post office?

01:57:10.000 Is that how they knew?

01:57:11.000 We got packages.

01:57:15.000 We called the police.

01:57:16.000 Yeah, so did the person that sent that package, did they work in the post office and that's how they knew how to bypass?

01:57:21.000 No, I think I know who it was and I think they're just, you know, Oh, okay.

01:57:29.000 All right.

01:57:30.000 Okay, so you never found out who it was?

01:57:33.000 I would argue I know who it was.

01:57:34.000 Okay.

01:57:35.000 And we told the police, we gave them all the evidence, and it sounds like they've just found a patsy.

01:57:41.000 Yeah, someone reached out to me and said, we found the guy who was swatting you.

01:57:44.000 And I was just like, that doesn't explain all of these things.

01:57:47.000 And they were like, hmm, well, you know, what can I say?

01:57:49.000 And I'm like, uh huh.

01:57:51.000 Yeah.

01:57:51.000 They needed to wrap up the story about how like Marjorie Taylor Greene, me and many others were being attacked.

01:57:56.000 They found a guy, they claimed he did it.

01:57:59.000 And then I was like, Yeah, there are several things about what happened to us, which could only be explained by someone with insider knowledge.

01:58:09.000 And they were like, well, you know, who knows?

01:58:11.000 And I'm like, anyway.

01:58:15.000 All right, let's go.

01:58:16.000 Eve Apologist says, sorry to advance Tim, but my fiance and I will still be sending the cast an invitation to our live streamed wedding.

01:58:22.000 Hopefully it gets through, but if not, we understand.

01:58:24.000 2024 is going to be a wild year, safety first.

01:58:28.000 You know, I'm trying to plan for the end of the year, because we take a year off now at the end of the year, because it's just impossible to book through Christmas and New Year's.

01:58:37.000 So I was like, you know, we'll just take this opportunity to go visit family and then take a vacation for three days or whatever.

01:58:43.000 You know, and we're trying to figure out what to do, me and Allison, and I'm just like, and she grumbles, because I'm like, who knows where the world will be by December 2024?

01:58:51.000 I mean, the election and all that, like, maybe our vacation plan is going to be to crack open the bunker door and smell some fresh air for a few minutes before hiding again.

01:59:01.000 I'm kidding, by the way, but you never know.

01:59:03.000 Do you think, do you think, to that point, because I'm at the level where I think no matter what happens in the election, half the country's on fire.

01:59:15.000 No, I didn't say civil war.

01:59:19.000 I'm saying I think if Trump wins, I think there's rioting in the streets.

01:59:22.000 I think you'll see the BLM riots all over again. 0.94

01:59:26.000 Maybe not BLM, but likely of that.

01:59:28.000 But if the inconsistencies that happened during 2020 happen again, I don't know.

01:59:35.000 I mean, how many more times do things like this keep happening before the other side is like, all right, that's it, you know, no more kind of thing.

01:59:43.000 The issue that I'm concerned about right now for the left is extreme violence.

01:59:48.000 And for the right, because the right is comprised of regular working people, it's no confidence.

01:59:55.000 So what I imagine happening with the culture war right, as we call it, which is regular people, They're not political zealots.

02:00:05.000 They don't like open borders.

02:00:07.000 They're complaining in their cities.

02:00:09.000 They just stop believing the system exists.

02:00:12.000 And what happens then?

02:00:14.000 The country just stops functioning as a single entity.

02:00:17.000 Right.

02:00:18.000 That's it.

02:00:19.000 The left will go around smashing things.

02:00:22.000 But the way I've described it is, imagine it's like Oklahoma, and after 2024 in November, a bunch of stuff happens that results in widespread lawsuits like we saw in 2020, accusations of fraud, whether it's true or not doesn't matter, and then there's a handful of guys who just say, There's no US anymore.

02:00:43.000 Yeah.

02:00:43.000 And so they basically say, we don't pay taxes.

02:00:47.000 Yeah.

02:00:47.000 We are our own city and we got to start securing ourselves.

02:00:50.000 And then what you end up seeing is people who have no confidence in the system start setting up their own forms of government.

02:00:58.000 It starts with Community Watch.

02:00:59.000 Eventually you got two guys with long guns blocking an exit ramp off the highway.

02:01:04.000 And they say, checkpoint.

02:01:06.000 What are you coming to our town for?

02:01:07.000 Yeah.

02:01:08.000 During COVID, several cities did this.

02:01:11.000 Yeah?

02:01:11.000 They locked down and barred people from entering their cities.

02:01:14.000 100% they did.

02:01:15.000 Unless you were working for some reason, an essential personnel, absolutely.

02:01:19.000 I remember driving on a highway once and it said, there was a sign for a city exit, it said closed to, you know, non-resident traffic.

02:01:26.000 Yeah.

02:01:26.000 And it was like, do not exit.

02:01:28.000 So what happens if, you know, Joe Biden, if he even makes it?

02:01:33.000 It's not going to be Biden.

02:01:35.000 I agree but like let's say a Democrat wins and then you just have people they say if the right truly says if Trump comes out at that point and just says the system is rigged or whatever yeah then people just say then I don't I don't agree I no contest like they're not gonna listen to the IRS they're not gonna listen to federal police and the federal law enforcement well they can't arrest everybody I mean, that's the thing, they can't.

02:01:57.000 Federal law enforcement and the U.S.

02:01:58.000 military does not have the manpower to quell a no-confidence act by the American people.

02:02:03.000 Yeah.

02:02:03.000 If Texas declares secession or something nonsensical, like, out of the question, then the feds can send in troops and try and quell Texas and that could be conflict, right?

02:02:12.000 But what if everyone just says after the election they don't pay taxes anymore because they don't feel the government's legitimate and the government can't do anything anyway because they're not?

02:02:21.000 The feds have no recourse.

02:02:22.000 They just simply cease to exist overnight.

02:02:25.000 I think the biggest thing that the American people forget, and we talk about this a lot on our show as well, is how much power they actually have, especially in the realm of taxes and things like that.

02:02:35.000 People are like, oh, you know, we can't. 0.90

02:02:37.000 Are you crazy?

02:02:38.000 We can't stop paying. 0.99

02:02:39.000 Why?

02:02:39.000 I mean, absolutely you can.

02:02:41.000 That's one of your best recourses to get the government to actually pay attention and listen to you.

02:02:47.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats.

02:02:49.000 So, um, not Super Chats.

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02:03:23.000 Yeah, thank you guys for having me.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 27, 2024

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