On today's show, we discuss the reclassification of marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3, the mass shooting at MIT, and much more. Plus, PDS Debt is here to help you get out of debt and put money back in your pocket.
00:02:34.000Donald Trump signed an executive order, and it's ordering the reclassification of marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3, which is like testosterone, ketamine, and Tylenol with codeine, which is a dramatic reduction.
00:02:46.000The expectation is this is moving towards full legalization, but Trump Day said, no, we're not going to legalize it.
00:02:51.000And I think the reality is, conservatives don't want it legalized.
00:02:55.000This is still a major move Donald Trump is making.
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00:06:31.000But now it's being moved off that list to Schedule 3, which is basically like testosterone or Tylenol with codeine, which is still a prescription thing, but it's not that crazy.
00:06:42.000Quote, this reclassification order will make it far easier to conduct marijuana-related medical research, allowing us to study benefits, potential dangers, and future treatments, Trump said in the Oval Office.
00:06:51.000It's going to have a tremendously positive impact.
00:06:54.000The order, which directs Attorney General Pamboni to hasten the process of loosening federal restrictions, but does not include a timeline, comes after an intense lobbying campaign from the cannabis industry.
00:07:06.000I've never been inundated by so many people as I have about this particular reclassification, Trump said.
00:07:11.000It's currently considered Schedule 1, along with heroin, LSD, and ecstasy, which are not considered to have any acceptable medical use.
00:07:18.000According to the DEA, it will eventually be reclassified as a Schedule 3 drug, which, according to the DEA, has a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence.
00:07:29.000The facts compel the federal government to recognize that marijuana can be legitimate in terms of medical applications when carefully administered.
00:07:37.000In some cases, this may include the use as a substitute for addictive and potentially lethal opioid painkillers, Trump said, calling the move common sense.
00:07:46.000I think it's politically very good for Trump and the Republicans.
00:07:50.000I'm not the biggest fan of marijuana legalization, although I don't think it should be Schedule I.
00:07:59.000I think that if we enable mass marijuana across the country, I think you're going to get a lethargic population.
00:08:08.000You've already got a decaying culture.
00:08:11.000I'm still a little bit more libertarian on this one, so I think it should be largely, you know, I guess, decriminalized.
00:08:18.000But I have concerns about what's already happening to a crumbling empire and society when we then throw pot on top.
00:08:25.000And then what was it that South Park said?
00:08:36.000I mean, I'm generally considered one of the resident prudes here at Timcast.
00:08:39.000So I have a disposition against marijuana generally, but I actually do sympathize with the argument being made by the Trump administration.
00:08:46.000Schedule one seems a bit crazy in many regards, putting it on the same tiers, heroin, these sorts of things.
00:08:52.000I can be persuaded on sort of the medical argument.
00:08:55.000The more I learn about it, the more I'm like, okay, that does make sense in these applications.
00:08:59.000But I do share Tim's fears that obviously total legalization, I don't think contributes to any sort of positive developments in the United States.
00:09:07.000I think the way things are heading in the United States, I don't know if legalizing marijuana en masse would really contribute to anything beneficial in any ways.
00:09:15.000I don't know, that'd probably be an unpopular take with the Tim guest audience, but I do agree with Tim.
00:09:20.000I think you see like in the Netherlands where they've gone to full legalization, the pitch that was made to the Dutch people was, you know, the worry about like adolescents, you know, with their marijuana usage.
00:09:31.000But then as soon as it was legalized, it spiked dramatically among adolescents.
00:09:36.000It became very normalized throughout society.
00:09:38.000And then this became, I know the big-haired church ladies, they catch a lot of ire, but they're typically right on a lot of these things.
00:09:44.000It does end up leading kids, specifically kids, into a more hard drug culture with adults that's slightly different, but it's priority here is obviously adolescents.
00:10:36.000And it's very easy to overdose on that stuff, man.
00:10:38.000Like a puff, you don't really need a lot of that potent psychoactive to get the real benefits from it.
00:10:45.000I don't have a particular strong argument against any of the points being made here, but I do think that it's worth noting a lot of states have decriminalized it now.
00:10:54.000And I think that because the states have kind of spoken and made it clear that the majority of the country wants it to be at least decriminalized, I do think that it's good that the federal government's responding to that.
00:11:07.000Now, again, I don't think that any of the points you guys are making about what it does to young people, about the ramifications of it are wrong.
00:11:15.000But I do think that if the states are going to say, look, we don't want to see, we don't want to put people in jail and waste the resources going after potheads.
00:11:23.000I think it's good that the federal government is responsible for that.
00:12:00.000I thought earlier today, something you kind of mentioned, Phil, is that this might actually free up resources for these guys to go after illegal immigration.
00:12:05.000Like, I wonder if that was part of the plan.
00:12:08.000The issue is, to Phil's point, where it's like a state-by-state basis, is typically the pitch that's made from these state governments when they're trying to pass legislation to legalize marijuana is the pitch they make to conservatives who, you know, are on the fence about it.
00:12:20.000They could be persuaded one way or another.
00:12:22.000Typically, the pitch that's made is, hey, this generates a lot of tax revenue for the state.
00:12:36.000They ended up finding that for every dollar of tax revenue that was generated from marijuana purchases, it costs $4.50 to the Colorado state government and healthcare, law enforcement, like education.
00:12:50.000The state has to provide education around marijuana, property.
00:12:56.000I just realized conservatives aren't going to smoke it.
00:12:59.000Like people on the right and people who are actually more studious, hardworking, and meritocratic, they're probably not going to smoke it.
00:13:08.000And then all these liberals are going to get high off their asses all day, and it's going to make them okay with being bored and not being involved in politics.
00:13:15.000So all these far-left whack jobs will just be stoned and sitting on the couch, and then they'll get out of the way.
00:13:26.000I think that at the end of the day, this is something that by the Constitution, there's not really any kind of authority for the federal government to say you can't do this.
00:13:34.000It is a state's rights issue, in my opinion.
00:13:37.000And again, I'm not arguing with any of the points made about whether it's good for people or not.
00:13:42.000I just think that the federal government shouldn't be deciding whether or not people can do this.
00:13:48.000I think that alcohol is every bit as destructive.
00:13:52.000And the general consensus is people should be able to have a drink if they want.
00:14:29.000Yeah, because I was like, if you concede that Maha obviously is within the realm of the government, then you would have to apply that standard of marijuana.
00:14:49.000Bro, the people that are in prison because of the old marijuana legislature, do they get their restitution back or are they reimbursed for the time?
00:15:36.000The UBI stuff, not that I'm a fan of it.
00:15:38.000But these ideas were palatable and Trump could have shown a willingness to be bipartisan.
00:15:42.000But more importantly, the big point was, and it's funny because in the context of me saying 49th State landslide, I said if Donald Trump legalizes pot or and or vacates or pardons all of these nonviolent pot convictions, landslide, 49th State landslide.
00:17:24.000And to me, that was like a, whoa, holy crap.
00:17:27.000Because it was last year that Bobby Kennedy stood on stage at a turning point event shaking Trump's hand, with fireworks exploding in the air, uniting these like suburban moms with the MAGA movement, giving Trump the edge to win.
00:17:41.000And now Amphest is happening and you know, my prediction was it's going to be almost exclusively dudes in suits coming out and just saying Christianity or immigration.
00:17:53.000They're getting rid of that middle of the road or that Maha stuff.
00:18:09.000We need a vibe shift into that, I think would be better than into more suits, and I'm not privy to the approval ratings, but I would assume Bobby Kennedy is, like the most popular cabinet member by far.
00:18:18.000He's my favorite like well, apparently he's why suburban women voted for Trump.
00:18:22.000Yeah, I mean, I think people under, I think people in the conservative world like me, completely underestimated how big RFK's arms are.
00:22:40.000Yeah, because there was another story that went viral where it was like, it was like an 18-year-old guy working at an oil change place died of a ruptured colon and intestines.
00:22:48.000And the story that everyone thought it was was like, oh.
00:23:00.000Because at first, people were like, you know, this happens because there's like people as a prank will point it at the butt, but the pressure is so powerful, it cavitates the colon.
00:24:27.000You know, so I got a call from this Wall Street Journal reporter and she was asking me what I thought about what was going on.
00:24:31.000And I said, I'm still friends with them.
00:24:34.000You know, obviously, you know, what happened happened.
00:24:36.000But I'm like, look, I don't think, like, if the direction they want to go, either directly or indirectly, is just to have more people wearing suits on stage talking about political issue and the whole audience is going to be a bunch of people in suits.
00:24:51.000Whereas a year ago, it was looking like it was going to be the new South by South or a new South by Southwest, a major culture hub where James O'Keefe frosts his hair and then moonwalks on stage in a bulletproof vest.
00:25:02.000And you've got some weird stuff happening.
00:25:05.000And now it feels like it's turning into just like, you know, staunch, Romney-esque conservatives in suits saying, we need to talk about immigration.
00:25:16.000And like RFK Jr. could still be a part of that, but it looks like, and maybe he shows up, I don't know.
00:25:45.000They're not going to vote for these conservative guys.
00:25:47.000You know, I told this reporter, look, the only thing that's going to make me vote Republican is that the Democrats keep getting crazier and crazier.
00:25:53.000Like right where they did, they just voted to give kids sex changes or public?
00:25:58.000And I'm like, I think the Republicans are going to be stodgy suit-wearing dudes in the midterms, and we're all going to be just kind of like, ugh.
00:26:07.000But the Democrats are going to be trying to chop off kids' balls, and we're going to go, okay, I guess I'm voting Republican.
00:26:11.000What's been the big issue with Republicans is that they're perpetually the opposition party and they never actually present sort of a new vision for the United States.
00:26:18.000This is the reason why when Trump's not on the ballot, they get blown out of the water because when Trump's not on the ballot, they're just saying, look what the Democrats are doing.
00:26:56.000In all seriousness, though, I think they're trying to bring it back to the old days.
00:26:59.000They're trying to go back to the way it used to be where Republicans sat on their asses with their thumbs up their ass at the same time, going, ah, and then Democrats just like ran roughshot over the country.
00:27:08.000And that's a shame because that's not what Charlie wanted.
00:27:10.000That's not what Charlie wanted Turning Point to do.
00:27:13.000He was completely interested in bringing people into the party because that's the way that he looked at.
00:27:18.000I mean, at the end of the day, he talked about like he wanted to make heaven crowded, right?
00:27:22.000Like he wanted to convert people to Christianity.
00:27:24.000And one of the ways that he was doing that was by bringing them first into the Conservative Party or the Republican Party, the MAGA coalition, and then he could reach out to them in a way that was that they could relate with.
00:27:34.000I mean, and you know, I'm not a religious guy, but like at the same time, I understood what he was doing.
00:27:39.000And it's perfectly fine with me if you're fighting against the Democrats and you're bringing people in by doing things like having Tim Cast or whoever at Amfest.
00:27:48.000That's that's all good, in my opinion.
00:27:50.000Yeah, like I made this point like right after Charlie died.
00:27:53.000It might have been the day of when Charlie died, is that the biggest loss, among other things, one of the biggest losses of losing Charlie Kirk is that no one else was going to Utah Valley University on a Wednesday.
00:28:05.000Like he was the only guy who didn't view, not the only guy, but he was the loudest voice that didn't view middle Americans as like these kitschy, whatever.
00:28:14.000He wanted to engage them and speak their language or our language.
00:29:02.000You're going to talk about sex changes for kids.
00:29:05.000Like we've got this story where the Republicans passed a bill banning it.
00:29:09.000And what's probably going to happen is the Senate's going to shoot it down for some stupid, arbitrary reason.
00:29:13.000And then we're never going to do anything because they're the Washington generals.
00:29:16.000And so I go to regular people and they're like, I literally just don't care.
00:29:20.000I can't bring myself to click on a video telling me something I've heard 50 million times.
00:29:23.000People should be bored of politics because things are going so well and they just trust that the bureaucrats generally have their wits about them.
00:29:30.000They shouldn't be bored because of like complacency from Republicans.
00:29:32.000And that's exactly what's going on here.
00:29:34.000They're saying, why would I bother engaging?
00:29:36.000Because it doesn't feel like the national GOP is getting anything done.
00:29:40.000So what's the point of being tapped in?
00:29:42.000Because when I invest all this time and energy into being tapped in, it doesn't really reap any rewards, especially when Trump's on the ballot.
00:29:49.000We got to start getting interested because, I mean, shit gets weird when you stop paying attention.
00:29:54.000You know, maybe I'm saying the wrong number.
00:29:56.000Somebody can look this up, but 282 13-year-olds were given sex changes in this country.
00:31:20.000I think right now people are looking to relax and be entertained.
00:31:23.000And I think what the left does well, it makes people retarded, but they, like, John Oliver famously has that formula for how he does jokes, where it's like he says news thing, and then for no reason mentions Little Timothy or current year.
00:31:38.000And it's like, I don't know if you guys ever saw that episode of King of the Hill.
00:31:43.000Bobby's trying to tell jokes on the PA, but nobody will laugh.
00:31:47.000And Peggy's like, it's because people are retarded.
00:31:49.000So she gets a cowbell and she's like, whenever the joke's done, just bang the cowbell and yell.
00:31:53.000And then everyone will laugh because you're telling them to laugh.
00:33:26.000If we can figure out how to get energy out of the system, dude, it's going to make your energy costs like pennies on the dollar.
00:33:34.000And so when you get a guy who's one of the lead researchers working at MIT getting shot multiple times in his own home in the chest, the first thing everybody thinks is like, you know, did homie have a breakthrough in fusion energy that was going to shut down the oil industry?
00:33:54.000Well, if these two are linked, I know it kind of downplays a bit of the conspiracy, but if these two are linked, that to me tells me this is a schizophrenic.
00:34:03.000This is someone that just spends way too much time online.
00:34:05.000He gets radicalized about Republicans and conservatives.
00:34:07.000If it's true, like his motive for shooting this woman.
00:34:10.000And then with this, this is just someone that was a 4U page American.
00:34:43.000But it was a fake press conference where he said, please stop referring to the shooter at Brown University as a brown as the brown shooter.
00:34:52.000We don't need to add racism to an already tragic event.
00:34:55.000Do you know how big of a problem it is?
00:34:56.000So, you know, like in your email, how you'll get like these offers for personalized t-shirts, and they'll take your last name and they'll put that on there.
00:35:24.000I mean, President Trump himself said, like, what's the deal with the security cameras?
00:35:28.000My favorite thing in this, did you guys see this picture right here where the feds, there's like eight guys and they're just kicking the snow.
00:35:37.000Reminds me of when you're at work and your boss is walking down the hall and you immediately just start pretending like you're typing something and you know you're playing Tetris or whatever.
00:35:45.000As a Tim Cast employee, I can't relate to that.
00:37:31.000Dan Bongino did not get hired by the FBI and say, now I'm going to pretend to do as much as I can while going to the beach and eating gingerbread.
00:37:39.000No, he probably tried as hard as he could and he couldn't do anything because the machine is crooked.
00:37:42.000So he's like, okay, I'm quitting after eight months.
00:37:45.000I made the point on the noon live that him being in the FBI and now stepping back into the podcast space probably will be of more value to us than if he just continues.
00:37:54.000Also, he just scares the shit out of me, though.
00:38:12.000Well, and if you are to believe the Axios reporting, he also Nazi eye to eye with Bondi on a lot of things.
00:38:17.000So it's even up for debate if there was even cohesion with the Trump people, let alone the deep entrenched apparatus within the FBI itself.
00:38:26.000You know, I got to say, right, because we were just talking about the Amfest stuff.
00:38:31.000This reporter was asking me, like, what's the future going to look like in the political space?
00:38:35.000And I said, Democrats have a track record of being lunatics, so I'm not going to vote for them.
00:38:39.000But Republicans going like neocon round, I'm not going to vote for them.
00:39:49.000The reason you can push them and like someone like Dan Bongino probably would have gotten held up in the Senate, but the deputy director is just directly appointed by the president.
00:39:55.000He doesn't need to be approved by Senate.
00:39:58.000I kind of feel like I'm bored of all this as well for the same reasons most people are.
00:40:04.000And we have to just make fun of it all.
00:40:25.000When you're young, it's kind of cool to be an activist, an anti-establishment activist.
00:40:30.000Like, yeah, down with whatever that is.
00:40:31.000But as you get older, you kind of got to solve the problem or stop complaining or you're just going to be angry and miserable complaining your whole life.
00:40:38.000The reason why the 2024 campaign from Trump was so different feeling was because he brought in a lot of these, the coalition expanded to bring in a lot of these comedians, these entertainers, and these sorts of things.
00:40:50.000And it gave some energy to a Republican candidate that's never been there.
00:41:20.000And it's like, I'm going to go with the people that are having fun.
00:41:23.000I think part of the reason why Trump attracted so many people in 24 is because so many people were disillusioned by COVID, right?
00:41:29.000That was what the four years that Biden was in office, people really saw how dishonest the government had been.
00:41:39.000And arguably Trump might be a little bit responsible for that because he didn't fire Fauci early or late in his last year and stuff.
00:41:48.000But there were so many people that once it kind of came out that social distancing was BS, wearing a mask was BS, all these things came out and people were like, well, I just don't trust the government.
00:41:58.000I don't trust the Democrats because they're the ones that are in power.
00:42:00.000So I think a lot of people, once they started to be able to discuss these things, once they saw the rollback of the censorship that was going on on YouTube and stuff, they started to say, well, I don't want the guys that were doing that.
00:42:13.000And Musk buying X, buying Twitter and changing it to X, that was also a huge issue for people.
00:42:20.000And so once that was kind of established in the public zeitgeist, then they were like, well, we can't support the Democrats.
00:42:28.000And even still, there were still a lot of people that voted for Kamala Harris, even though she was, you know, had three months and was arguably the worst candidate the Democrats have ever produced.
00:42:38.000I mean, well, I think an underrated aspect of all this is what you said, is Elon buying Twitter was a massive game changer because it didn't just affect Twitter, is all of these other social media platforms had to react because they didn't want to get lapped by X. If everyone that was getting banned from all these sites who were just normal people rushed into X, it would have put them out of business, especially because X was like aggressive with video and these sorts of things.
00:43:00.000So everyone, we always discuss, you know, on the show, like, oh, if you go on Instagram Reels, you're going to see some really wild stuff.
00:43:06.000And the reason for that is because Meta had to roll back a lot of their draconian moderation in reaction to X's new policy.
00:43:13.000We have this from 19thNews.org, and I would be in favor of shutting down the 19th news.org.
00:43:22.000No, it's very obviously like a feminist news blog, but they say House Republicans advance sweeping anti-trans bills ahead of holiday break.
00:43:29.000One bill would jail doctors who prescribe gender-affirming care to trans youth.
00:43:34.000Another would block Medicaid dollars from funding that care.
00:43:37.000And then we have this: RFK Jr., from also 19th News, announces new rules targeting care for transgender youth.
00:43:42.000If approved, the proposed federal regulation would dramatically impact an already challenging landscape.
00:43:47.000To put it simply, they're saying no more sex changes for kids.
00:43:55.000And so I'm just, you know, look, the Democrats have been insane for a long time.
00:44:00.000I feel like the Republican Party is going to move into this like DeSantis-esque neocon kind of territory.
00:44:07.000Maybe Dan Bongino coming back to this space can be a more unifying voice for the people who don't want to vote for Democrats.
00:44:15.000But outside, like we obviously, like we can talk about the ban on child sex change and all that.
00:44:21.000I'm just wondering what you guys think is going to happen to the political parties in this country because there are a lot of people that no longer fit into the traditional Democrat or Republican space.
00:44:30.000Well, I think that's why you're seeing the knife fight within the Republican Party right now.
00:44:36.000Well, and I think you're seeing the neocons, they're much more clever this time.
00:44:40.000They've crafted their message in a way that's much more appealing to the MAGA base.
00:44:45.000And that's why they're trying to poison the well ahead of time for JD Vance, where you have kind of a double-pronged attack because you have these neocons, and then you also have these sort of dissident right-wing figures.
00:44:55.000But the neocon strategy, this is at least what it looks like to me.
00:44:58.000You guys may disagree, is that the reason that they're sort of calling everyone Groypers all of a sudden, even if you have nothing to do with Nick Fuences' politics, is because they want to set the stage for 28 to be able to label someone like JD Vance a Groyper.
00:45:11.000And so it's kind of a reheated version of the alt-right, where it's like, if you just vaguely disagreed with Jeb Bush, you were a part of the alt-right.
00:45:17.000And even if you had nothing to do with these alt-right figures, that looks to me to be the play they're setting back up, and that's how the neocons are going to wrestle control of the party.
00:45:47.000And you see a lot of people taking, you know, like, we're taking it back and starting to like the way that Tate uses it.
00:45:53.000But like the left has really put a lot of effort into saying using the phrase patriot, especially after like after January 6th, they were saying patriot groups.
00:46:02.000And they were saying, if you're a patriot, that's actually a right-wing extremist.
00:46:05.000But in some ways, I'm seeing the left actually try to like retcon American patriotism in a lot of ways.
00:46:09.000The example I point to is with the LA riots earlier this year is initially the rioters were just flying Mexican flags.
00:46:15.000They were making it very obvious that they were just Mexican nationalists, whether or not they were born in the United States.
00:46:20.000And what happened is you saw a lot of these figures kind of in this Ezra Klein sphere saying like, hey, this looks terrible optically.
00:46:27.000You guys need to start wearing American flag shirts, flying American flags, so you can like it'll pass the sniff test for right-wingers.
00:46:35.000And that's so, I think the left's actually sort of wised up to this in some sense is they're actually trying to portray themselves as those standing for American values.
00:46:43.000Like you noticed last night with Brian Shapiro, is if I had any critique of our current immigration system or the previous immigration system, he would say, that's un-American.
00:47:45.000I think the rights issue is that they're taking themselves seriously.
00:47:50.000These neocons, their aesthetic is serious in a very LinkedIn way rather than like a traditional form of like high culture and these sorts of things.
00:47:58.000And I think the American people would be open to sort of aesthetics that are elevating to the soul.
00:48:04.000Again, that sort of uplift you in many ways.
00:48:07.000I think the issue is that all they wear, the reason they're wearing this suit and tie is because that's what they see on LinkedIn.
00:48:13.000That's what they see in the Fortune 500.
00:48:15.000You know, you know what Crowder is so good?
00:48:42.000The unfortunate thing is that he's on an island and the movement to push back against these lunatic Democrats largely does not include people like him.
00:48:50.000So one thing we have to do is be substantially more entertaining.
00:49:56.000I mean, that's, that's, I mean, someone like Milo, that's why he's so popular among other things is because, again, he's delivering ideas in a package that's like hard to look away from.
00:50:05.000I mean, that's even kind of been Flint as a secret sauce.
00:50:07.000The majority of people that are interacting with his content online aren't even really tracking with what his politics are, his policies that he's proposing or any sort of thing.
00:50:15.000They just see the clip and go, that's pretty funny.
00:50:19.000And it's like, because that's the most effective way to communicate an idea is through something that's compelling, that's funny, et cetera.
00:50:25.000But like, I don't watch his content, but I've seen the clips where he's got this kind of like dry, sarcastic humor that kind of hits when there was something that came up with like Piers Morgan asked him about black people being in jail.
00:50:51.000People are saying he kind of walked Piers into it because Piers took the bait from the clips, not realized that his point was he didn't care about your race.
00:50:58.000Yeah, well, that's because Fuentes is able to flip-flop from irony into like post-irony on the turn of a heel.
00:51:05.000And Piers Morgan is a super serious suit-wearing establishment crony.
00:51:09.000And so he is not prepared whatsoever to handle someone like that.
00:51:12.000So he comes on, and all Piers is doing is just taking whatever he says at face value, not realizing that Fuentes just kind of sees him as like a character.
00:51:19.000And he doesn't even view Piers as like a person.
00:51:21.000He views him as like a face of an entire ideological framework.
00:51:25.000It was sad that Jon Stewart kind of went nuts.
00:51:54.000Jon Stewart comes back into politics expecting to be his traditional liberal comedic self, pointing out obvious things like there's the Wuhan Institute for Coronavirus Research a block away from where the virus emerged.
00:52:08.000And they were telling him he was wrong, but he fell in line.
00:52:12.000He quickly fell in line and started blaming white people for stuff.
00:52:14.000Because Jon Stewart's issue was he was still shadow boxing.
00:52:17.000He still is shadow boxing against opponents that would have been relevant like the 90s.
00:52:21.000So he still views like wasps and like the church as primary opponents to his ideology when these haven't really been like, you know, formidable opponents in 30, 40 years.
00:52:31.000So he's really just shadow boxing now against this is like you see the same thing in the UK.
00:52:36.000Like Kneecap's a great example where they're like always railing on like the queen or the king because they view them as like they're still stuck in this old framework where these were viable political vehicles.
00:52:47.000And it's like, dude, these people haven't been relevant in 40, 50 years.
00:52:49.000How about you use your comedy, use your edgy self to address the actual things you can't, you know, because if you asked Kneekap to like address like Islamic immigration to Ireland, they would freeze up and it's like, yeah, because that's actually something that would challenge the establishment in a meaningful way.
00:53:03.000So it's people like that, like Jon Stewart and his current iteration are trying to challenge an establishment that isn't established anymore and they don't want to challenge the current establishment.
00:53:12.000And you brought up Nekap and I mentioned this too.
00:53:14.000Like the only thing that Knecap disagrees with the Royals about is whether or not there should be royals, right?
00:53:20.000All of the opinions that Knekap has are the same opinions that the Royals have now.
00:53:25.000They're very much, they're all talking about, you know, they're all pro-Palestine.
00:53:28.000They're all very much left-leaning and progressive in their politics.
00:53:33.000Only difference is, well, we're the royals and you're not.
00:53:36.000Yeah, they act like the royals are still tormenting Ireland as if that has like any relevance whatsoever in 2025.
00:53:42.000The royals don't have a grasp on their own country, let alone Ireland.
00:54:02.000If you're not, if you're not catching some kind of flack, if you're not catching it from someone, then you're certainly not saying anything in any way.
00:54:25.000It's a short clip, but listen to this.
00:54:28.000In the fall, we will host the first ever Patriot Games, an unprecedented four-day athletic event featuring the greatest high school athletes, one young man and one young woman from each state and territory.
00:54:44.000He promises that they will be brought into a large arena near D.C. where they will often fight to the death, and the winner will be the victor.
00:55:17.000I think it's going to be like American Gladiators where they do have the foam missiles they'll shoot at you that you'll run down the.
00:55:22.000If it truly is like a variety of sports, I tweeted this earlier: is that your best odds, if you're just not an athletic person, but you want to be on the national spotlight, you should be arranging your affairs to move to like American Samoa because territories are included.
00:55:34.000American Samoa, the Northern Marion Islands, these are places with like 30,000 people.
00:55:38.000So if you move there right now, you're not going to have any competition just picking up scary sports on TV.
00:55:42.000I think the Simon's are pretty big and athletic.
00:55:46.000So yeah, you got some big Simon's, but I'm going to go with like I'm going to go with Washington because there's a lot of Asians in Washington.
00:55:55.000And if you're saying no weapons allowed, then I'm going to make the generalized assumption that my people are naturally good at martial arts.
00:56:13.000If it's a kill-off, then like Illinois is going to run the table.
00:56:17.000If it's no holds barred, yeah, I'm going to Illinois.
00:56:19.000It actually is pretty crazy to think because, I mean, obviously the killing makes it comedic in that it's so over the top.
00:56:24.000Obviously, we're not laughing at people dying, but it literally is very hunger games asked to be like the Patriot Games, where two kids from every state are brought to the Capitol to have a dinner with me at the Capitol.
00:56:36.000The winner's state will receive maximum federal funding for the next calendar.
00:56:48.000Amnesty for everybody in your state if you win.
00:56:50.000Yeah, we were just talking about how great youth sports are, though.
00:56:53.000This is a big, big, big thing we got to get going again.
00:56:56.000If you want kids to have healthy sex lives and be like aggressive, you know, adult males that pursue women, have families, like some young sports really gets you normalized.
00:57:28.000So I'm wondering if invading Venezuela is just like, listen, we don't have the labor, but we can steal the energy.
00:57:38.000We put Venezuela back on the oil market and pump all their oil in the system, and it's going to bolster our capabilities without having the same labor class.
00:57:47.000We're going to have something to sell to make money on.
00:57:49.000And then I bring this up in this context because Trump's vision of bringing America back to where it used to be, baseball and apple pie, it's going to need people.
00:57:58.000And so that means this is a 40-year plan.
00:58:01.000Stealing oil and taking over, you know, Venezuela's close.
00:58:07.000Well, that's what, I mean, I've proposed that I think the United States should take sort of a page from these countries that do think in these long term, have these long-term strategies where they do have these worker programs.
00:58:18.000We literally come, you have three years in the country.
00:58:21.000You can't bring your family, can't bring your wife.
00:58:24.000Help us build our stadiums for a World Cup or whatever, and then you get out and you cannot come back, not even as a tourist.
00:58:28.000And I think that's kind of a win-win is for some of these massive mega projects that we need to do in these countries, and you do have to keep labor costs low, that could be a viable option because as the population retracts, there's going to be a higher demand on labor.
00:58:41.000And I do think that potentially we could allocate our labor into more viable industries.
00:58:46.000And in turn, we could keep labor costs cheap for like construction of mega projects by taking maybe like a, I don't know, like a UAE strategy.
00:58:53.000Perhaps we were talking about doing a public works project.
00:58:56.000Andrew actually brought it up, like a roads project.
00:58:59.000It's been a while since we've done an American public works project that I know of.
00:59:02.000But if we, you know, revitalize our roads across the country with like 21st century materials, that'd be freaking badass.
00:59:18.000It's just a simple works, like works program for, you know, you bring them in, they get out, they can't come back.
00:59:24.000That's much more viable than like currently, where you just keep illegal immigrants on the book and just like hope no one notices.
00:59:29.000I want to explain to you the problem with communism, Ian.
00:59:35.000Please, it's impossible to believe it.
00:59:37.000This idea of us just spending money as a country and be like, we've decided we're going to allocate an obscene amount of money in this one direction.
00:59:44.000I'll give you a couple examples of the problems here and why it's got to be more meritocratic than that.
00:59:47.000Not to literally say public works is communism, right?
00:59:50.000Do you guys remember that viral video where they were like, what if all of our roads were solar panels?
00:59:56.000And they were like, there's 846,000 square miles of road across this country.
01:00:01.000And then it showed like this graphic where it was like, if we made our roads solar panels, it would be a massive grid generating electricity while we drove right on top of that.
01:00:10.000That's why we got to keep the weed out of everything.
01:00:41.000And then Google bought it and then the project died right away.
01:00:44.000And everyone, all the hippies got mad and they were like, Google bought it and killed it because they didn't want to protect the environment.
01:00:50.000Because if people had modular phones, if the camera broke, you could swap the camera module out for a new camera module and you'd have the same phone forever.
01:00:57.000And the real reason was that it's impossible.
01:00:59.000The real reason is that it was a made-up thing online that wasn't possible to do.
01:01:03.000And it was this gigantic, bulky piece of trash with low battery power that nobody wanted.
01:01:11.000I mean, we had the same problem, and a thing called slavery happened right after.
01:01:16.000But England, during that time, they tried to do things to combat free labor, like emptying the streets of all the vagrants and homeless and shipping them to America when we were short of labor.
01:01:26.000So, I mean, I think the answer to the labor shortage is we have buck farms called prisons.
01:01:33.000So if we need more citizens, we should just let women into prisons and open the sales and let nature take its course at some point.
01:01:40.000I mean, because that's pretty much what we did in the past.
01:01:42.000I know it sounds crazy, but government-sponsored convoy visits is what we're doing.
01:01:46.000If they just hire more female prison guards and then nature will take its course.
01:01:53.000That seems to be a phenomenon that happens a little bit.
01:01:56.000The female prison guards end up pregnant with inmates' children.
01:03:58.000It means a lot of, it's going to be a lot of tourists coming in, a lot of money coming into the United States.
01:04:02.000So the joke is like all these Europeans used to writing public transportation when they get dropped off in the DFW and they have to figure out how to get to the stadium.
01:04:08.000Bro, you know what's really going to be crazy is if it, if it's all over the country, these tourists are going to come in from places like Europe or whatever, and they're going to get robbed.
01:04:24.000In Europe, you have to worry about it.
01:04:25.000I'm just saying these really, you know, these really like, you know, whatever, and then they get dropped in like Kansas City, just get robbed right away.
01:09:10.000Republican congresswoman has called for a total ban on H-1B temporary visa program, part of the wider effort to go after the immigration system.
01:09:17.000Texas rep Beth Van Dyne, is that you pronounce it?
01:09:19.000Told conservative commentator Betty Johnson that politicians had failed to consider the unintended consequences of immigration programs like H-1B.
01:09:26.000That H-1B visa program has got to either stop right now until we understand the amount of just how it's being taken advantage of or redone.
01:10:38.000If Piers is like, I like multiculturalism because we have chicken tikka masala, which was invented in Scotland, he's saying the dude who made it wasn't Scottish.
01:10:51.000He's kind of being not, I don't know if racist is the right word, but that's a very dumb answer because having chicken tikka masala has nothing to do with what cultures of people live around you.
01:11:34.000And then cats up got rednecified into ketchup.
01:11:37.000I'd always been told there was an episode of King of Queens where Arthur, the dad, he objected to calling it ketchup because he said it was like the commodified brand name of it.
01:11:45.000And the actual substance is called katsup.
01:11:48.000That's like how people call tissues Kleenexes and it's like, even if it's not Kleenex brand.
01:11:52.000So he refused to play a part of this corporatization of our products.
01:11:55.000And I thought that was a bold stand by Arthur Spooner.
01:11:58.000I don't know if that's all a bold stand.
01:12:11.000Ancient China, a pungent fermented fish sauce.
01:12:14.000And then yeah, this whole idea that you have to, even like, let's just say Piers Morgan's like priority was like food options, which whatever.
01:12:31.000And you go around Tokyo, you will have the best ethnic food from around the world.
01:12:35.000The best Italian, the best Thai, the best Indian.
01:12:39.000No matter what, Tokyo has fantastic array of options.
01:12:42.000And the reason for that is they said, rather than importing the people here simply for the recipes, what we can do is we can send the Japanese chefs to these countries.
01:12:50.000They can learn from them and then come back and open restaurants.
01:12:53.000Not to mention now, you can just look up the recipe.
01:12:55.000And so you actually get like a really authentic, what's the word I'm looking for?
01:13:00.000You know, very delectable food options.
01:13:03.000Yeah, and I mean, it's also worth noting that like in Japan, they don't really have a concept of close enough.
01:13:47.000I want to propose a compromise with Piers Morgan.
01:13:52.000I will guarantee he can have chicken tick and masala.
01:13:54.000In fact, I will bring him pot thai personally, but no immigration.
01:13:58.000I'm kidding, but like if his point is the food is good, it's like, okay, then the argument from the anti-immigration side is, then we will plunder their food and you can have it.
01:14:17.00050,000 people were slaughtered so that aristocrats in France could put black pepper on their steak.
01:14:24.000And then the funniest thing is, every restaurant down to the redneckiest piece of trash restaurant is going to have black pepper on every table that nobody uses.
01:14:31.000Yeah, can I add a likely conspiracy to the ketchup?
01:14:35.000Most likely the person who brought ketchup back was a heroin dealer.
01:14:40.000During that time, there was a shortage in silver, and a lot of American aristocrats were selling heroin to Chinese drug lords.
01:14:51.000And they would go trade heroin for silver.
01:14:53.000And I'm just putting that out there because that's something that happened around that era, you know, is heroin being sold to Chinese drug lords.
01:15:01.000Yeah, you did have the British when they were trying to open up the Chinese market.
01:17:33.000You know what's funny is that ancient Rome had toilets and then after the civilization collapsed, they just started chucking shit out the windows onto the floor.
01:17:40.000No, but for real, like in these medieval villages, they just take a bucket and they'd throw it out the window and right.
01:18:08.000And as other countries talking about doing it, I think they should.
01:18:11.000Well, I would actually, I would challenge you on that.
01:18:13.000I think with the Australians, I've always maintained this policy, which is when the left throws the right a bone, you should always be skeptical of why that's occurring.
01:18:20.000And I think the reason the Australian government banned social media for under 16 is because ideas are being disseminated to kids that were turning them more right-wing.
01:18:28.000Therefore, they want to get on top of that.
01:18:29.000I don't think it was like a, you know, usually we operate against parents, but in this instance, we're going to join forces with parents to ensure their children are safe.
01:18:36.000I think we should ban the social media, and then when a kid gets caught using it, we beat them.
01:19:45.000Because there's a lot of Scottish people that came over to the U.S. and they went to the South, and that's why part of the reason why it's Southern Friedrich.
01:19:51.000If you listen to country music, it sounds remarkably similar.
01:20:02.000But they say it came from ancient frying methods with Scottish immigrants bringing deep frying techniques and West Africans contributing crucial seasonings, creating the iconic southern dish in the American South.
01:20:13.000Bro, I don't care about your secret spices.
01:20:25.000What happened was the Scottish guy was carrying his fresh fried chicken and he bumped into this West African woman who spilled all of her spices into his chicken bucket.
01:20:32.000And then they looked at each other and it was lovely.
01:21:14.000The Irish that was a little more our, yeah.
01:21:17.000Well, the common etymology that people explain for crackers, the whip cracking, but that's not actually true.
01:21:21.000It was referring, yeah, I mean, you take it away.
01:21:23.000Wasn't it because that there'd be like an old white guy in a rocking chair next to a barrel full of crackers outside of a convenience store?
01:21:31.000The suspected etymology is that the Scots-Irish, when they would ride on these chuck wagons because they were such hooligans, I'm using the Irish slur there intentionally is they would be cracking up.
01:22:26.000And so what happened is a lot of these Scots-Irish from Ulster and a lot of Scottish migrants from like the lowlands then came to the United States.
01:22:33.000They still held that allegiance in some ways to King William of Orange.
01:22:37.000And since they moved into the Appalachians, they became billy boys, hillbilly boys, hillbillies.
01:22:42.000So that's where the term that one I'm 100% sure on.
01:22:44.000I was thinking about the history of the word cracker while you were talking because it's like if it means somebody that boasts and there's a bunch of black dudes in like 1820 or 1870 being like, yo, these motherfuckers don't shut the fuck up.
01:24:12.000But mainly because the south relied on slavery to prop up their agricultural industry and they had no need to develop machines because labor was everywhere, it was cheap, it was essentially free in many ways and so they never actually needed to develop machines because they had human labor.
01:24:26.000Versus in the north, where slavery was outlawed, they're just like well, labor costs are really expensive, let me just see if I can make a machine to, you know, eliminate the need for a human being.
01:24:33.000So yeah, industrialization really took off following the outlaw of slavery.
01:24:36.000Another element of that is a lot of single white males that came to this country during that time were indentured slaves and had to actually work for families in the if they didn't have children, you know, because the population was so low.
01:24:48.000If you didn't have a family and have children to give to the country, then you had to work as an indentured slave to a man who had children in a family and helped them tend to their farm yeah, and and be productive citizens.
01:24:58.000Could you imagine if that happened today?
01:25:00.000I mean, I don't know that we'll go there, but they're like we need a workforce.
01:25:34.000I mean, if you have a debt, man, you're.
01:25:36.000That's the Christian ethic behind the outlong of usury.
01:25:39.000That's why we had usury laws is because we said a man would view you as less than if he held interest on you, if he held a debt over your head that was accumulating.
01:25:48.000And so that's why usury was a sin because it would lessen your view of another individual because you're saying, well, this guy owes me a bunch of money and that interest is racking up.
01:25:56.000Usury was just charging interest on debt.
01:25:59.000You know, there's an interesting video on YouTube.
01:26:01.000I can't remember the guy's name because my brain isn't working, but they went around in the 30s and interviewed ex-slaves, people who survived slavery.
01:26:10.000And they talked to this guy who was a slave about loans and debt, and he just could not understand the concept.
01:26:33.000I think I don't know if I have this entirely straight, but usury is still outlawed in Islam, widely accepted as a sin in Islam.
01:26:41.000So, the way that a lot of these Islamic countries are able to bank, like in the 21st century, correct me if I'm wrong, Serge may know, but I believe what they do is they sort of estimate what the interest would be, how much interest would accumulate, and they front-load that.
01:26:54.000So, you pay a fee upfront in addition to your loan.
01:26:57.000So, your actual loan doesn't accumulate interest.
01:26:59.000You're just paying a normal, you know, a standard rate throughout the duration of the loan.
01:27:02.000But the interest was front-loaded at the beginning.
01:27:05.000So, that's how people in the Middle East are able to acquire a mortgage or a long-term loan.
01:27:09.000So, you'll take out a million dollars, you get $700,000 of it, and then you just have to pay back a million, basically.
01:27:20.000And usury was banned in Europe until like the 15th, 16th century because they needed money for wars.
01:27:25.000Yeah, I mean, look, capital markets have really benefited the country largely, but I do think that because we don't educate people on how interest works and stuff, people end up getting completely and totally underwater all the time.
01:27:42.000That's why Middle Eastern countries never have recessions is because they don't have huge debt crises, crises.
01:27:50.000It's probably got something to do with the oil that most of them are sitting on, too.
01:27:53.000That as well, but even countries, well, yeah, I mean, Turkey would be a bad example, but they rarely don't have economic recessions on like scheduled 10-year durations like we do in the West, where it's like every 10 years, there's pretty much a crisis that occurs and there's a huge crunch.
01:28:07.000I think, in my opinion, that's more of a product of the fiat system that we use as opposed to just having capital markets.
01:28:15.000Like, yeah, when the government is setting the interest rate, because the price of money, right?
01:28:19.000That's what you're that's what your interest rate is.
01:28:21.000It's how much it costs to borrow money.
01:28:23.000When the market itself sets the price of money, then you don't have the government trying to incentivize different areas by tax policy or by not trying to get people to take out loans by lowering the interest rate or get people to not take out loans by increasing the interest rate.
01:28:39.000It's the manipulation of the market by the government that actually ends up sending mixed messages to the market.
01:28:47.000When you have a market that is allowed to price money at a rate that the market decides, then you don't have the same kind of like the 2008 crisis wouldn't have happened if the government wasn't saying, oh, we want people to be able to take out loans.
01:29:01.000And they were messing with the credit, the credit.
01:29:04.000They were allowing people that didn't have good credit to take out more money in loans than they could actually pay back.
01:29:11.000That's why the central banks across the world are always incentivized to keep inflation like 2% to 3% because that stimulates your economy that forces people to spend their money.
01:29:18.000Because if inflation is at 0%, people will just sit on their money because it's not losing value.
01:32:56.000What if what's happening is that the deep state has lost control for some time now.
01:33:00.000And so all the wet work they're doing in desperate.
01:33:03.000Yeah, they're trying desperately to regain control, so they're taking people out, but it's just they don't have the means of keeping it under wraps anymore.
01:35:06.000Is everything all right out on the floor?
01:35:08.000No, what I'm going to do is when we get back is I'm going to fill up a bowl with MMs, but I'm going to put like a little bit of Skittles in it.
01:36:54.000Literally, Jank Uger and Gavin McGinnis were holding hands in outrage.
01:36:58.000I'm kidding, not those specifically, but literally everybody was like, I want to punch the editor in the face who told us to put peas in our guacamole.
01:37:39.000This is a big ploy to get that MIT guy dead and then shut the whole thing down and be like, look, it was just some random thing that happened, everybody.
01:39:34.000Would you drink anything your brother gave you again?
01:39:36.000I don't know if you guys saw the after show with John Otto.
01:39:39.000He was actually talking about studies that urine therapy, they call it, where people were.
01:39:43.000And everyone was like, you know, he had me going on this red light thing until he started talking about how he drinks his own urine, and now I'm not so sure.
01:39:50.000But apparently there's antibodies in it that get lost, and a lot of it's just about the rest of the world.
01:42:18.000So, my friends, if you're trying to figure out what to get, you want to get a good Christmas present, don't get anybody's socks because that's a trope.
01:42:24.000Unless they're like those really good high-end ones.
01:42:26.000But what you can do is you can get them the 340 GSM Micro Fleece Bearskin hoodie.
01:42:32.000It's got 10 secure pockets, five highly secure zip pockets on the exterior, two interior zip pockets, plus three secret interior drop pockets.
01:43:58.000But I'm just basically the current congressman from that district.
01:44:03.000And yes, he is the guy that was alleged to have been having an affair with the woman that set herself on fire and died because they was found set on fire.
01:44:14.000I'm not sure if it was actually self-inflicted or not.
01:44:17.000A slice of reality says, Tim, you should give Ian and Phil a bonus for dealing with last night's guest whose reality detachment made Candace's Charlie Kirk conspiracies look credible.
01:45:21.000Well, the thing is, he wanted the, like he was, like I was saying earlier on the pre-show, like he wanted to basically just posture and tell everyone how much he hated Trump.
01:45:32.000I'll give you some guy's advice, like a debate tip, is when someone gish gallops, just accuse them of drinking their own urine.
01:45:44.000In all seriousness, this actually is a debate tactic that we were talking about the other day where Trump did that thing where he goes, I'm sorry.
01:46:26.000They're high Q. You know, in all seriousness, though, I hear this so often from like people in the Beltway about how everybody watches Tim Cast IRL.
01:46:46.000I'm just saying the perception that people in politics have is that this is like the biggest show ever when it's not because it's the biggest show in their universe.
01:46:52.000Or I shouldn't say biggest, but like one of the biggest shows in the political universe among the very small community of very politically active people.
01:47:01.000I think it's a phenomenon where a lot of, I don't want to say like the leader, the thought leaders, sometimes you'll get shows where like the leaders watch that show because it's because we use two big words, you know what I'm saying?
01:47:14.000Well, you can't overstate the cultural impact of the show, right?
01:47:17.000Like people from Congress want to come here.
01:47:19.000People from D.C., they want to come here because you reach an audience that they're trying to reach.
01:53:34.000Obviously, the FBI and their evidence recovery unit is up there.
01:53:38.000So the process is being conducted as we speak.
01:53:42.000And it goes without saying that I would like to personally thank the efforts again of the Province Police Department, the Rhode Island State Police, the Rhode Island Attorney General, the FBI, the ATF, HSI, the U.S. Marshals, IRS, DEA, Secret Service.
01:54:07.000All right, so we know he was a Brown student.
01:55:14.000Normally I can do like 16-digit divided by like decimals, just boom, out my head instantly, but constantly focusing and struggling to talk all good.
01:55:25.000When he's off camera and he gets mad, he just starts talking in binary.
01:56:07.000According to my sources in the security, I'm saying this because I want to be very clear.
01:56:11.000I don't want you to be misled in any way.
01:56:14.000My sources in the security industry have confirmed to me Candace used the same security Charlie did at certain points of her career, whatever.
01:56:25.000I'm not saying she's doing it right now because I don't think she is.
01:56:28.000And she's lying and she's using weasel words like, I never employed them, right, because they were hired on her behalf or something like this.
01:57:28.000But, you know, a lot of people have now started to turn against her because of the whole stuff with Erica and meeting with Erica and all the stuff that she said after.
01:57:38.000What she did in her video, she was like, these Zionists are dangerous people and they want to kill me.
02:00:37.000It'll be really funny if we're taking it back.
02:00:39.000It'd be really funny if 10 years from now, there's this mass movement against the Irish, and they're just like, the Irish are taking over and control our government.
02:00:47.000Yeah, and they're like, we need a homeland for the Irish.
02:02:31.000I'm not going to brag about being the biggest podcast in the world because I'm not a retard who just does this so that you can click buttons.
02:03:50.000I call the 40 bucks, miss the flop, and I'm out.
02:03:53.000If I had raised there, she'd have re-raised me.
02:03:56.000It would have gotten back to me, and then I would have re-raised.
02:03:59.000She would have jammed, and then I'd either have to flip or fold, and she would have hit two-pair and beat me, and I would have lost six grand.
02:04:04.000So you can say that I shouldn't play as king that way.
02:04:07.000You're probably right, but the way things were running out and the way she was playing, I think I played it well.
02:04:32.000We've got House in Habit and Curl Kurtz coming on the morning for the Culture War show to talk about all these conspiracy theories and what Candace is on about, what she's doing.
02:04:41.000So I'm sure it'll be contentious and all that jazz, whatever.
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