A gunman opened fire at Florida State University, killing 2 people and injuring 6, and police have identified the suspect as 20-year-old Walter McNeil. Libby and Lisa discuss the possibility that this is the work of the "Mangione Effect" and whether or not it's time to take the law into your own hands.
00:02:00.000There was a post on X by Nicholas Decker, and I'm not going to say the name of the post, but this is also related to the questions that we're asking.
00:02:12.000And his questions are about when is it time to take the law into your own hands?
00:02:47.000RFK Jr. was in D.C. today, and he was talking about autism and its effects on young people, and there are people in the media that have a problem with the way that he characterized the issue, because it's a real issue that is extremely important,
00:03:08.000Donald Trump was talking with Israel about...
00:03:14.000Strikes on Iran and he's opted to continue negotiations with Iran as opposed to doing what seems like Bibi Netanyahu wanted, which is to actually strike.
00:03:26.000So more of the Trump is actually the guy that wants peace, no matter what people seem to think.
00:03:35.000The U.S. is also the New York Times says the U.S. is withdrawing hundreds of troops from Syria, which begs the question.
00:03:42.000Why are there hundreds of troops in Syria?
00:03:47.000We know that Syria has got a massive or had a massive civil war.
00:03:51.000Now that there is a new government, I assume it's probably not friendly to the United States government, so that's probably why they're pulling them out, but we'll talk about that.
00:04:01.000And then if we get to it, SpaceX and a few of its partners emerge as frontrunners to build part of Trump's Golden Dome project.
00:04:34.000We have plenty in stock, so go ahead and get yourself some of that.
00:04:38.000They've got Appalachian Nights, which is actually what I tend to drink.
00:04:42.000I've become a coffee guy in the past few years, which is kind of weird.
00:04:45.000Most people kind of get into coffee when they're in their 20s, and I waited until I was in my late 40s.
00:04:51.000But head on over to Casper to get yourself some coffee, and then...
00:04:55.000Head on over to theboonieshq.com and you can pick up skateboard decks which are super sweet.
00:05:01.000The 28th Amendment, chickens being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed.
00:05:10.000An adorable square chicken on the board.
00:05:15.000Go on and pick yourself up one of those.
00:05:18.000So smash the like button, share the show with your friends.
00:05:22.000We're here to talk about that and so much more.
00:06:12.000The suspect who opened fire at Florida State University, FSU in Tallahassee, Florida, on Thursday, killing two and injuring six others, was identified by law enforcement officials as the 20-year-old son of a sheriff's deputy.
00:06:24.000Leon County Sheriff Walter McNeil identified Phoenix Ickner as the shooter, saying, It's not a surprise to us that he had access to weapons.
00:06:33.000I mean, shouldn't a sheriff's deputy know how to secure their weapons?
00:06:38.000They continue, his mother, Jessica Ichner, is a sheriff's deputy with the Leon County Sheriff's Office.
00:06:43.000She's been with the office for over 18 years, and McNeil said she has done a tremendous job in her position.
00:06:49.000During the course of her career, authorities said she served as a school resource officer.
00:06:53.000McNeil said Phoenix Ichner used his mother's handgun in the shooting at FSU.
00:06:59.000So, apparently, this young man, or he's been...
00:07:06.000There's questions surrounding whether or not this is a politically motivated or whether there was any politics involved in this or whether this was just another young kid that was somehow struggling with modern society, which seems to be almost the norm nowadays.
00:07:25.000Do you guys believe that this has got something broader than just a kid that has decided that he's had enough of the day-to-day living in the U.S.?
00:07:35.000Yeah, I think everyone automatically jumped on this idea that he's an anti-Trump protester, that he was part of this socialist student union club.
00:07:46.000I think the quote they're pulling from this article...
00:07:50.000Kind of proves that he's not part of them.
00:07:53.000If you read the line before it, it said, once the protesters reached the integration statue, Florida State University Police Department officers stood on guard and groups of onlookers began to form.
00:08:05.000And then they bring in his quote, these people are usually pretty entertaining, usually not for good reasons.
00:08:48.000But even since then, there's been the Tesla violence.
00:08:52.000There was this kid in Wisconsin who killed his parents as part of a plot to overthrow Trump and the government and then secretly head off to Ukraine.
00:09:02.000And this is just some of it, you know?
00:09:04.000Was he actually in touch with anybody?
00:09:06.000According to the FBI documents, it looks like he was.
00:09:10.000There was someone he was in touch with who had a Ukrainian phone number, and he was talking to this person over text about what's going to happen when he moves to Ukraine and how that's going to go down.
00:09:22.000That's a similar situation to the attempted assassination attempt on Donald Trump earlier last year.
00:09:27.000Right, Ryan Ruth in September at the golf course.
00:10:16.000And so what we have is a situation where for years we've had people on the left saying words are violence, which makes them think that self-defense is reasonable.
00:10:26.000And if words are violence, then violence is violence and they can just, you know, spout off and hurt people because of that.
00:10:32.000So you think that the narrative being spun or the phrase like phrases like that?
00:10:39.000I just think it's part of the overall ethos, right?
00:10:45.000If words are violence, then if you insult me, self-defense, I can, you know, take out.
00:10:52.000So I saw a tweet today, and I forget who it was that actually said it, and I apologize, but it started off with the idea that on the left, they believe that violence can be used like a volume knob.
00:11:07.000You can turn it up, and you can turn it down, so you can go from just, you know...
00:11:13.000Getting into fistfights and brawls, up to actually firebombing Tesla dealerships, to actually murdering people.
00:11:21.000Whereas with the right, they tend to look at violence as either totally off-limits or that's all you're doing.
00:14:20.000Because I was a teenager in the early 90s.
00:14:23.000But when Rotten.com was a thing in the early aughts and stuff, I've seen all the chainsaws and the Mexican cartel violence and stuff like that.
00:14:32.000I don't get the sense that my generation had more violence because of that stuff.
00:14:39.000No, but you might have been old enough to be able to process that and recognize it as wrong.
00:14:44.000But think about these kids that are getting...
00:14:46.000You know, computers at 10 or 11, and that's what they're seeing.
00:14:50.000And they're exposing themselves to that constantly on a day in and day out.
00:15:02.000My point is, nowadays, it's my understanding or my impression that the internet is actually more sanitized than it used to be.
00:15:14.000There's a lot of murders that have happened that you can't actually find the original videos of anymore.
00:15:24.000Yeah, I mean, you mentioned the gore thing.
00:15:28.000Yeah. And in the FBI documents with the Wisconsin teen, this guy Nikolai Kassop, a classmate told the FBI that Kassop would send gore edit videos that included flashing gory and war images put to Russian music via Snapchat.
00:15:43.000And then he said, you know, that he intended to kill his parents, but he was involved in this gore stuff.
00:16:16.000But for decades and decades now, we've been told that it's either heavy metal music that's causing our kids to go nuts, or it's rap music, or it's all of these different things.
00:16:29.000And I think that there's something different going on than just this experience.
00:16:40.000And there's a lack of respect for life.
00:16:43.000There's a lack of belief in an everlasting soul.
00:16:46.000There's a lack of a belief that you have an innate part of yourself that cannot be, that you can protect, that can't be broken.
00:16:55.000You know, I think that kind of concept is missing and whether it's the decline of religion or the decline of any care for our neighbors.
00:17:03.000And then just to what you were saying about the cell phones, I think people use cell phones as a shield and they think they're protected from it.
00:17:10.000Like I remember riding the subway when I lived in New York.
00:17:20.000Yeah, but I think it's a bigger concept.
00:17:22.000Like, a lot of these kids are killing each other over, like, disses or, like, you know, being made fun of or being insulted or those type of things.
00:20:01.000They got stimulus checks and they admitted in tons of these videos, like Brandon Buckingham and all these other people did, like, videos about what it was like in that culture.
00:20:08.000And they, with their stimulus checks, they bought guns.
00:23:01.000But I lived in a very Muslim neighborhood in Brooklyn, in Bay Ridge, and there were protests almost every weekend right on my block against Israel and, you know, pro- Palestinian and all that stuff.
00:23:44.000One of my high school classmates, though, did convert to Islam, which I discovered at a class reunion years later.
00:23:50.000They have this thing where you'll see them come out of prison and whoever has the darkest mark on their head shows their most loyalty to Islam.
00:25:13.000Federal prosecutors seek death penalty for Luigi Mangione and UnitedHealthcare CEO killing.
00:25:18.000New York U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday that she has directed prosecutors to seek the death penalty against Luigi Mangione in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, following through on the president's campaign promise to vigorously pursue capital punishment.
00:25:35.000It is the first time the Justice Department has sought to bring the death penalty since President Donald Trump returned to office in January with a vow to resume federal executions after they were halted under the previous administration.
00:25:47.000Luigi Mangione's murder of Brian Thompson, an innocent man and father of two young children, was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America, Bondi said in a statement.
00:25:57.000She described Thompson's killing as an act of political violence.
00:26:00.000Mangione, a 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family, faces separate federal and state murder charges after authorities say he gunned down Thompson, 50, outside a Manhattan hotel on December 4th as the executive arrived for UnitedHealthcare's annual investment.
00:26:55.000After all the appeals processes and stuff.
00:26:57.000I think it's going to keep ratcheting up, especially if they actually go through with it.
00:27:03.000Shocking and disturbing how many people my age are all in on Luigi, but they are.
00:27:11.000He's like the new Mumia Abu-Jamal or Leonard Peltier.
00:27:16.000But there are these guys who end up committing federal crimes, who commit federal crimes and then are just lionized by the left, like Mumia or Peltier, who was a killer also.
00:28:55.000I mean, generally I'm against the death penalty not because there are not people that deserve it, but because I don't trust the government.
00:31:36.000I definitely think they should be put in jail forever.
00:31:38.000And that's what we do with people generally.
00:31:41.000Putting people in jail, we take young, violent men, young men that tend to be too violent to be in society, and we put them in jail until they're not...
00:32:24.000And so if he's going to scare the crap out of everybody and say, get your act together, and if you hit somebody over the head with a baseball bat, we might send you to the gulag, then let them think that, and let's, like, have some deterrent mechanism there.
00:33:07.000You know, because there are people that can't be in society the way that the rest of us can.
00:33:13.000They're just too violent or they're not able, you know, they can't function in society and they decide, you know, of their own volition to behave in ways that are just unacceptable.
00:33:23.000And so you can't be in society, you can't be in society.
00:33:31.000No. So the penal colony, the idea is that everybody gets, every bad guy gets sent to the penal colony, and then they're put basically on a spit, right?
00:33:41.000They're like suspended, and their crime is tattooed on their body as they are slowly turned on the spit.
00:34:25.000The reason that it's not like Capital Publishment isn't a deterrent is because you don't see the result of it soon with all the appeals and things like that.
00:34:33.000I think it would be more of a deterrent.
00:35:07.000So she was at Ratcliffe, and the women's dorms had curfews, and they had to be back in the dorm by some early time, and the boys could stay out all night.
00:35:16.000So the women were pissed, and they were like, hey, that's not fair.
00:35:19.000And the school was like, well, we're just doing this for your protection.
00:35:39.000I think that men and women are wildly different and that women should be treated differently and women should have more restrictions on them than men.
00:35:46.000My daughter's not allowed to go to college.
00:35:48.000Your daughter's not allowed to go to college?
00:35:49.000I'm not encouraging her to go to college.
00:36:47.000You can't deny the fact that society has said that women are going to be enfranchised, they're going to have the ultimate liberty that men have, but at the same time, they want special treatment.
00:36:59.000I don't see a lot of special treatment.
00:37:49.000It used to be for the majority of women until feminism poisoned everybody's brains and then everybody feels like they have to work.
00:38:01.000So feminism has sold society a lie that you can be a CEO and you can be a mom of four and you can do them both equally and you can do them both at the same time.
00:40:14.000And I think that they probably only say to some degree because most people are a little apprehensive about saying, yeah, let's go cut their heads off.
00:40:23.000You know, like nobody wants to come out and say that.
00:42:26.000There are multiple very big accounts on X that I can think of that are constantly saying Trump's a Nazi, constantly making the comparisons to Germany in the 30s, and it does not stop.
00:42:43.000Keith Olbermann, Rachel Beitkofer, there's a bunch of people that are consistently making the same kind of allegations, and when you hear that over and over, you get ridiculous stuff like this.
00:42:53.000I'm going to read the first paragraph here.
00:43:44.000We have a media that encourages this, that continues to feed this narrative.
00:43:50.000The Media Research Center did a study of the...
00:43:54.000Coverage of Garcia versus the coverage of Rachel Morin.
00:43:57.000And there was like 100% more coverage of Garcia than Rachel Morin because what the media enterprises want to do is set this up as an example as to why there should be no deportations.
00:44:11.000And what I think is really important to realize is that the administration that came before Trump encouraged all of this illegal immigration.
00:44:21.000With absolutely no intention of sending anybody home ever at any time for any reason.
00:44:31.000And so now when you have people like this doofus who are saying political opponents are being imprisoned and what he's talking about are criminals who are being told finally to leave.
00:44:44.000And judges who are coming out and saying, oh, you can't just...
00:44:49.000Terminate temporary protective status for half a million people.
00:44:52.000You can't just deport people without due process.
00:44:55.000We have 10 million extra people in this country, right?
00:45:05.000But just under Biden, who came in, because it was like...
00:45:08.000Over $2 million a year by the official count, by the Biden administration's own count.
00:45:14.000So, you know, already it's going to be way more.
00:45:17.000But you have all of these people come in.
00:45:20.000How long would it take to give due process to 10 million people?
00:45:25.000It would take centuries, like literal centuries.
00:45:28.000And so when you had the Biden administration trying to push that bill through Congress, what was it, last June, saying that we needed more judges, more immigration judges, they wanted more judges so they could get more people in.
00:45:39.000And at the same time as they were doing that, they were cutting off cases.
00:47:06.000They used the Health and Human Services...
00:47:10.000To move these people around the country in an effort to affect the census and affect congressional representation.
00:47:18.000They wanted, they had people come in and they wanted to use these asylum seekers, which were illegal asylum seekers because they didn't go to port of entrance.
00:47:28.000They were coming over wherever they could get over.
00:47:31.000And as soon as they ran into a Border Patrol agent, they said they were seeking asylum.
00:47:38.000This was a plan by the Democrat Party in an effort to install the Democrat Party as a permanent one-party system in the United States that disenfranchises millions of Americans, takes away all of their political power.
00:47:53.000These people deserve far worse than they're going to get, but the people that are here, and I'm talking about the politicians and the NGOs and the people in the administration, We've facilitated this.
00:48:06.000But the people that have been brought here, that have been helped by NGOs to come up over the Darien Gap through Mexico, all of those people need to go.
00:48:15.000Every single one that we can get rid of.
00:48:19.000And if there are mistakes made, those people that were in error can petition the government from somewhere else.
00:48:26.000This is not something that the American people should be punished with.
00:48:31.000Because again, this is taking away political power from Americans born in America.
00:48:37.000It's taking that power away using their own money to do it by the elected officials.
00:48:44.000This is not just a dereliction of duty.
00:50:24.000We want to create a second class of citizens in America.
00:50:28.000I don't know whether to love or hate that woman.
00:50:30.000With dodgy legal status who have to do these jobs.
00:50:33.000And you also had, lest anyone forget, you had Barack Obama out there when he was doing his campaign for president, and he was quoting Cesar Chavez.
00:51:26.000Was entirely 100% opposed to illegal immigration.
00:51:30.000Why? Because it undercut American wages.
00:51:33.000It undercut the wages of the people that he was organizing.
00:51:36.000And these people came in and were used as strikebusters, you know, and then they would come in and take the work.
00:51:43.000They get thrown to the wolves, for sure, because they can't advocate for themselves.
00:51:47.000Right. And they have no legal standing.
00:51:48.000So you have Democrats simultaneously sucking the teat of labor and gobbling up all of their money and undercutting labor and going against labor.
00:52:00.000It's no surprise that when we had the April 5th hands-off rally and we had all the labor leaders out there talking, it's no surprise that every single one of those labor leaders were leaders of government unions.
00:52:12.000These were government workers that they are representing.
00:52:14.000They're not representing actual labor.
00:52:17.000The Teamsters, who also represent like what a huge swath of hospitality, I think they weren't out there.
00:52:23.000You know, that's not like the Democrats are feeding us lines about Cisse Puede and about I think a big portion of it is they believe that they're doing the right thing.
00:52:45.000It's a moral thing because they have no God other than themselves.
00:52:48.000And so if they think they're doing good, then they believe they're good people.
00:53:32.000So why, if it's their citizen and they want him there, why do we need to go through this whole rigmarole to...
00:53:41.000Send him back when he doesn't belong here and his government wants him there.
00:53:45.000What's interesting, too, is when they talk about the administrative error, right?
00:53:48.000They were talking about, oh, he was sent back by mistake.
00:53:50.000What they mean by sent back by mistake is that he was sent to El Salvador because in the original, I think it was the 2019 protective order, it said that he could get sent somewhere, but he shouldn't go to El Salvador because his mother was being extradited at her, you know, not extradited.
00:54:34.000Go watch Nick Shirley's YouTube on it.
00:54:36.000Nothing's going to happen to him in there.
00:54:38.000So I want to get back to the violence here in the U.S. And there's one thing that I saw in this kid's essay.
00:54:46.000It says, if these actions become normal, the government could arrest anyone and deport them to a prison in a foreign land without hope of redress for no reason.
00:55:10.000Yeah, they have a monopoly on violence.
00:55:11.000We hope that we have the ability to use lawyers and the law and courts to prevent, not to prevent that, but to get us out of that situation.
00:55:21.000But if they want you, the government is just going to come take you.
00:55:26.000And you can, you can, the evidence of that is the, the raids of people's homes over all kinds of different things.
00:55:34.000The fact that the government complains,
00:55:35.000constantly violates the Fourth Amendment when it comes to civil asset fortitude.
00:55:39.000Absolutely. You know, the violations of the Second Amendment, the attempts to have, what was it, they called them free speech zones on campuses where you weren't allowed to say whatever you wanted except for this specific little
00:55:55.000area. The government will do everything
00:55:56.000Any number of things to violate your rights, and we only have the hope.
00:56:03.000Was that government or was that universities?
00:56:18.000Well, fair enough on that particular point.
00:56:20.000But it's not like the government has any compunction about going to your house, kicking in your door, and pulling you out, or just killing you.
00:56:27.000There was a guy that the ATF killed over some kind of...
00:56:59.000A bigger microscope on what the Trump administration is doing.
00:57:02.000So I highly doubt that an American citizen is going to get ripped out of the country, deported to El Salvador, and then not be brought back.
00:57:09.000It did happen once to an American man, I think in 2012, who was mentally disabled and he was like wandering around Mexico for a while, but they got him back.
00:57:19.000So it has happened before, but not under Donald Trump.
00:57:23.000And fair enough, it sucks if it does, right?
00:57:45.000So this kid talking about, oh, all of these things that the Trump administration has done and is going to do, and questioning when is it acceptable for violence, I mean, this is something that me and Tim talk about, and I came up with a phrase that's, where's the off-ramp?
00:58:01.000If kids are writing stuff like that, and people believe these things...
00:58:29.000Kilmar Abrego Garcia miraculously risen from the death camps and tortured, now sipping margaritas with Senator Van Hollen in the tropical paradise of El Salvador.
00:58:52.000This guy, if I understand correctly, this guy has done absolutely nothing for any of the people in Baltimore that are victims of tons of violence.
00:59:45.000There are a lot of people that are saying, oh, there's a lot of people that are saying that, oh, the administration's not doing enough, they haven't done anything, etc., etc.
00:59:54.000And I am of the opinion that the administration is aware.
01:01:00.000I'm a little impatient because I've been let down so many times and seen nothing happen and then be completely feckless and I'm just hoping that that's not the case.
01:01:10.000The Epstein files, I think, definitely caused them.
01:01:25.000So, to the extent that they do exist, they were probably drowned in some subway flood in Brooklyn years ago.
01:01:32.000Yeah. All right, we're going to go on to this story.
01:01:36.000From the Postmillennial, breaking, Carmella Anthony's reps called police on Austin Metcalfe's father for attending press conference after his boy was stabbed to death.
01:01:48.000From the Postmillennial, representatives for Caramello Anthony in his murder case in the killing of 17-year-old Austin Metcalf called the police on Metcalf's father for showing up to a Thursday press conference that they were holding.
01:02:00.000According to ABC8, the Next Generation Action Network, which is a Dallas-based activist group that has taken on the role of publicly defending Anthony, called the police and asked Jeff Metcalf to be removed from the scene.
01:02:15.000Anthony was released from jail and placed under house arrest after being charged with the murder of Austin Metcalf.
01:02:20.000Anthony admitted to stabbing Metcalf at a track meet.
01:02:23.000According to police, he has claimed self-defense in the case and has garnered national mutuality.
01:02:27.000I don't think you could possibly do make a worse move.
01:02:32.000This man whose son is dead at the hands of the defendant here, who also said, look, I don't want to see this turned into a racial thing.
01:02:42.000I want, you know, he was looking for a, the best.
01:02:46.000Best way to handle it that he could with the least malice and the most charity.
01:02:52.000And then he shows up here and they decide they're going to kick him out.
01:03:26.000It's disgusting how they're treating this guy's dad.
01:03:29.000He said it was disrespectful for him to show up.
01:03:34.000How about it's disrespectful that his son stabbed somebody?
01:03:37.000It's disrespectful that they're bringing out this Dominique Alexander guy who's trying to cosplay as a civil rights leader over a murder case.
01:03:50.000He, you know, like there was some case where he was babysitting his girlfriend's toddler and the kid ended up sustaining a bunch of injuries and he admitted to shaking the baby.
01:04:32.000To that point, the Post Millennial reports, Caramel Anthony's rep blames Frisco School District.
01:04:40.000Weather for fatal stabbing death of Austin Metcalf.
01:04:43.000This guy is going to botch this so bad that even though I didn't think that Carmelo Anthony was going to get the death penalty, I think that he might end up getting the death penalty because of his poor representation.
01:04:57.000Like, I assume he probably would get 25 years.
01:05:01.000No, the death penalty was taken off the table.
01:05:36.000So from the Postmillennial, a representative for Carmelo Anthony placed blame on the Frisco Independent School District, as well as the weather for the murder suspect stabbing Austin Metcalf to death at a district track meet earlier this month.
01:05:49.000While Dominique Alexander was speaking to reporters on Thursday, he said that Frisco ISD is trying to push off the blame because the school district isn't taking steps to expel Anthony, insinuating that the school district was to blame for the stabbing.
01:06:04.000He then added, what I have not heard the media say, as many media outlets asked us what went on, I'm trying to find how many of y'all have asked the superintendent on one of these board of trustees, why didn't you cancel or postpone with weather in that magnitude?
01:06:22.000You couldn't have attract me in the rain or thunderstorms or clouds.
01:06:38.000Because a person who is the administrator of your children, you are responsible for the safety of the children.
01:06:45.000And so it seems that Frisco ISD is trying to push this off by making this decision that they do not have to make, he said, in reference to Anthony getting expelled.
01:07:00.000This is something that I have a real bad problem with.
01:07:04.000People, especially people on the left in the United States, when it comes to actions, they tend to look for any other reason aside from the individual that acted.
01:07:17.000And I actually went through this last night.
01:07:20.000You see it with some international issues as well.
01:07:24.000With the Ukraine war, it's not Putin's fault.
01:07:26.000It's because of the U.S. or because of the Ukraine.
01:07:35.000The idea that the people that actually carry out the violence aren't to blame, that they're victims somehow, that's something the left does.
01:08:00.000And he ended up there because of circumstance, etc.
01:08:05.000The left is constantly making excuses for people that have the ability to make decisions on their own, that have agency, and in this case it's no different.
01:08:14.000I want to go back to that in a minute, but I just want to talk about the rain because I talked to somebody, a whistleblower called me about this when they said there was no video, and somebody told me about the video that they watched, and this is verified, so I verified my source.
01:08:27.000Anyway, he wasn't just running to get out of the rain.
01:08:30.000He didn't just jump into a tent to get out of the rain.
01:08:34.000He walked up the bleachers, back down the bleachers, around Metcalfe's tent, and then sat in his tent.
01:08:41.000And so it's not like this, you'll see when the video comes out, but it is not like he was just dodging in a tent to get out of the rain like they're trying to make it seem.
01:09:21.000It is just the culture that says, you dissed me, you disrespected me, you told me to leave, you embarrassed me, you pushed me, you deserve to die.
01:09:31.000That is becoming more and more prevalent, like I've said a million times, and nobody seems to care or notice or want to talk about it.
01:10:12.000Oh, well, I forgot you can't multitask.
01:10:14.000But if you really look up how many teens are dying from shooting and violent deaths like that, the numbers are skyrocketing at an abnormal level.
01:10:23.000Okay. Well, I don't think you're wrong.
01:11:59.000Approximately 193,000 homicides occur among those aged 15 to 29 each year, making it the leading cause of death for this age group, according to the WHO.
01:12:08.000So, yeah, but I don't disagree with you.
01:12:12.000I don't think that you're wrong about the increase since 2020.
01:12:15.000That's something that we've actually heard multiple times, those stats, because COVID and because of the, apparently maybe the stimulus checks.
01:13:01.000And I think this goes back to the conversation we were having earlier about how young people don't value human life anymore.
01:13:08.000But in general, I think the rules of engagement have deteriorated across society.
01:13:15.000Like, people think that violence, theft, murder, any form of violence, they believe that it's an acceptable form of engaging with others in society.
01:13:27.000Now that we've passed that point, what now?
01:13:32.000How do you put the cat back in the bag?
01:13:34.000Okay, like, you're all kids, and so I know that I am dating myself here, but, you know, crime did peak in the 90s, and for definitely all of your life, and most of your life, and Libby's a little younger than me.
01:13:52.000But the point that I'm making is crime has been going down, right?
01:13:55.000Right. Granted, there has been, like, there was definitely a decrease in the death rate, partially because of, you know, the ability of people to call from cell phones and stuff like that, that you can call for help and things like that, that affected how many people actually got,
01:14:11.000you know, how many assaults turned into murders, because, you know, if you get shot and you can call the cops, they come and help you out, you know, most of the time.
01:15:38.000The gang wars and all of the stuff that you heard when it came to Southern California rap, right?
01:15:46.000All the rap that I grew up listening to, all the stuff like Dr. Dre, they were talking about, I'll kill you just for looking at me the wrong way.
01:17:16.000The level of divisiveness has increased significantly.
01:17:20.000There was a time where in the U.S. you could say...
01:17:23.000I don't really pay attention to politics.
01:17:25.000And there wasn't the stigma of you being a bad person for it, right?
01:17:29.000Because nowadays, if you say, I don't really pay attention to politics, people are like, how can you not pay attention when there is a femicide going on in the gongo?
01:18:25.000I think it's a good idea to get Americans out of harm's way over there.
01:18:28.000Sure. The United States has started drawing down hundreds of troops from northern Syria in a reflection of the shifting security environment in the country since the fall of President Bashar al-Assad in December, but also a move that carries risk.
01:18:42.000The military is shuttering three of its eight small operating bases in the country's northeast, reducing troop levels to about 1,400 from 2,000, two senior U.S. officials said.
01:18:54.000The bases are mission support site Green Village, MS,
01:18:57.000Sure. Now, these guys that are in Syria, first of all,
01:19:59.000They were probably most likely Green Berets working with local forces or maybe they were Delta guys doing direct action.
01:20:08.000And now that they're not, now that Assad's not in charge, I don't know what they would be doing because the current government there is terrorists.
01:21:13.000President Trump, however, has expressed deep skepticism about keeping any U.S. troops in the country.
01:21:18.000At least for now, the reductions that started on Thursday are based on ground commanders'recommendations to close and consolidate bases and were approved by the Pentagon and its Central Command.
01:21:27.000The official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters.
01:21:32.000So, again, it's a good thing that the U.S. is getting out of, you know, war zones, but...
01:21:41.000These, like, the guys that are over there, they're not dudes that are there because they don't want to be, right?
01:21:47.000Again, when I say that they're Green Berets, they're the kind of, like, Tier 1 kind of dudes, they're Tier 1 guys and probably support.
01:21:55.000And, like, those guys are the kind of guys that are like, yo, put me in coach.
01:21:59.000I joined the army because I want to fight bad guys.
01:22:25.000So it's a good thing if you think that the United States should withdraw its tendrils from all over the world and come back home and bring our troops back home and be a little bit more...
01:22:38.000America-focused and a little more isolationist.
01:22:41.000And it's a bad thing if you are a globalist who really wants to have America's reach in every corner of the world.
01:22:48.000Do you think that that is the sense of a globalist, or do you think that that's the sense of someone that believes that the United States should have an expansive military footprint?
01:22:58.000Because I think that there is a difference between...
01:23:00.000I think that the globalists and the warmongers have a lot of similarities.
01:23:07.000They want the hard power and they want the soft power to go along with it.
01:23:12.000So, like, for example, if you're going to do soft power operations in Syria or in the Middle East, you need a place to do them from, right?
01:23:21.000And you need to have a little hard power there to back it up.
01:23:23.000So I think those two things go hand in hand.
01:24:22.000But I definitely think we should at least have some ears on the ground so that if they're coming over here or they're planning an attack, that we can...
01:24:30.000What I would do is just like, boop, on the whole region.
01:26:09.000In Afghanistan, we didn't have a lot of intelligence assets in all kinds of places.
01:26:17.000And because you specifically mentioned the threat of Islam, or global jihad kind of Islam, do you think that the U.S. is better served by having...
01:28:14.000okay yeah what do you think same here um that foreign policy is not really my thing i like to say that my my brain just kind of when we're talking about geopolitics
01:28:25.000But I will say, I think it's fair that we should have intelligence operations over there.
01:29:50.000So you're talking about CIA ground branch, but they work in conjunction with Green Berets, and they would work in conjunction possibly with Delta, but definitely with Green Berets.
01:29:58.000Green Berets go in and they teach local assets how to fight.
01:30:03.000CIA ground branch would be the guys that are working with...
01:30:05.000They definitely had secret operations in the CIA, but they were physically harming people.
01:31:23.000So, we didn't really talk about this one here.
01:31:28.000Again, from the post-millennial, Trump opted for talks with Iran on nuclear deal rather than Israeli-led strikes.
01:31:34.000Which, again, points to the idea that Donald Trump is actually pro-peace.
01:31:41.000And I think that's something that we all kind of agree on is good.
01:31:44.000From the Postmillennial, President Donald Trump opted to engage in diplomatic talks with Iran on a nuclear deal rather than go ahead with Israeli proposed strikes on the nation.
01:31:54.000Officials with the Trump administration who spoke with The New York Times indicated that while Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu was interested in attacking Iran, Trump told him during their White House meeting that he would instead begin talks.
01:32:09.000Netanyahu had other ideas on how to deal with Iran, namely engaging U.S. military support to attack Iran.
01:32:14.000And his timeline was to start the whole thing as soon as May.
01:32:18.000Trump, The Times reported, made his decision after months of internal debate over whether to pursue diplomacy or support Israel in seeking to set back Iran's ability to build a bomb at a time when Iran has been weakened militarily and economically.
01:32:31.000So are we kind of all in agreement that that's the proper?
01:32:52.000I don't want to be, like, striking Iran.
01:32:54.000I do think, though, that we should have it, like, before, like I said, with the Poso thing, like, it should be...
01:33:01.000They should think in their mind that it's certainly an option.
01:33:04.000Like, I think part of the reason that there were no new wars and things like that under Trump is because everybody was scared of him thinking that he's so unhinged that he may push that button at any time, and that really protected us.
01:33:15.000So if they're looking at us and saying, well, the American people will never support them bombing Iran, right?
01:33:24.000Okay, well then that doesn't give him as much leverage as he needs.
01:34:07.000And as much as Israel gets the focus, there are a lot of people in Saudi Arabia that are like, yo, if you go and strike Iran, we will be pumped.
01:34:42.000When it comes to this, I think that it makes a lot of sense for the president to be engaging in talks with Iran to try and limit their nuclear program.
01:34:48.000This has been a problem for America for years and years.
01:35:26.000They're kind of our friends when they need us until it gets to the point, until it gets to the point where they've taken over so much control of, I don't want to say all of Europe, because we've got every mayor in freaking England, you know, and they finally take over it all, that they're in control of these nuclear arsenals and everywhere else,
01:35:42.000and then they will not be our friend anymore.
01:35:48.000Yeah, I think that the issue of Iran's nuclear situation has been a problem for a really long time.
01:35:54.000I think it really behooves us to try and keep that whole situation in line.
01:36:01.000So to the extent that Trump can do that, I think that's great.
01:36:04.000And I don't think backing Israel in attacks on Iran would attain the goal that he's looking for.
01:36:11.000It's my sense that Israel wants the U.S. to do it.
01:36:15.000Well, that's what Netanyahu was saying.
01:36:17.000They were not going to go ahead and do this without the backing of the U.S. because they would not only need the U.S.'s—they said that they would need the U.S.'s help because they would need Iran to know that the U.S. had their back.
01:36:31.000And so without the U.S. having Israel's back, they're not going to do something like this.
01:36:35.000It's my sense that Israel— Israel wants the US to back them and say, hey, you know, we'll make sure that should they strike back or something, we're going to do something.
01:36:44.000But at the same time, I also think that Israel has made it very clear that they will go move on their own if they believe that Iran gets a nuclear weapon.
01:36:56.000Well, I mean, look, I'm not sure as to what Iran will do with a nuclear weapon, but they allude to the idea that they would nuke.
01:37:07.000Israel is 100% has made it completely clear that they will use the nuclear weapon that they may or may not have because they've never come out and said they have nuclear weapons but they've made it clear that they will strike Iran before they will allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
01:37:32.000Now the question that I'm asking is Do you guys think that Israel is bluffing, or do you think that Israel will act independently of the United States should they believe that Iran is on the cusp of getting a nuclear weapon?
01:37:48.000A lot of people are turning on Israel, and if they do not have the U.S. support, they will not do it.
01:39:18.000You were just the right amount of misbehaving.
01:39:21.000I was a little more behaved than usual.
01:39:24.000Yeah, smash the like button, share the show with your friends, go to rumble.com and become a member, and you can join us in the after show.
01:39:32.000But right now, we're going to go ahead and read your super chat.
01:39:35.000And we're going to start with, let's see, Konashi says first, yes, you are.
01:39:44.000Shane H. Wilder says, Our dear Jessica, Timcast graphical extraordinaire's dog Tank, is undergoing intestinal surgery.
01:39:52.000There is a give, send, go at Save Tank the Dog.
01:39:56.000So if you have some money and you could give a little bit to the Give, Send, Go to save Tank.
01:40:02.000And he had some complications too overnight.
01:45:27.000They had nuclear weapons aimed at D.C. There was as much motivation as you could possibly get for the CIA to take Castro out, and he just lived forever, and there's still communists down there.
01:45:41.000So I do think that they have been successful in the past, but I think largely they are the clowns in action CIA as opposed to the big, bad.
01:46:32.000You stumble down a rabbit hole through gore.
01:46:35.000I'm not saying that's, like, the only thing that does it, but...
01:46:39.000Yes, but that's the secondary thing because they're not getting the proper attention, stimulus, and things like that from their parents at home.
01:46:46.000Or if it's one parent, if it's parents that are absent, if it's parents giving them iPads instead of books to read or taking them out to the playground or hiking or whatever.
01:46:55.000And so that is the foundation that they don't have this family, they don't have God, they don't have this structure or this morality.
01:47:21.000And then, as an actual follow-up to this one, Hal Gailey says, gore is one thing, malice and sadism another.
01:47:30.000Exposure is secondary to identifying with it.
01:47:33.000There are signs of such tendencies long before it erupts.
01:47:36.000So... It sounds like he's saying that the behaviors are kind of built in and that there are things that may help bring it out, but there are people that are predisposed to it.
01:48:07.000Okay. But, like, you have to have that emptiness that you're kind of filling with some radical stuff to, like, because I read it.
01:48:18.000I'm not out there doing any of that, right?
01:48:20.000But other kids or other people who may not have some stronger foundation, I don't even say I'm perfect.
01:48:25.000I could have easily fell into any stuff.
01:48:28.000But, like, it's really that lack of moral foundation, I think, that...
01:48:32.000Is the root cause, and that is just an add-on, or they may have some tendencies, and without proper guidance and access to these things, it metastasizes.
01:49:20.000And maybe we're exactly the same as the Crusaders.
01:49:22.000You know, when you look at letters home from war from the Crusades and you look at letters home from Civil War, like, they're the same letters.
01:51:00.000And that may not be everybody in the United States' existence.
01:51:03.000And I understand that crime happens more, but I don't think, like, one family should have, over their lifetime, 50 incidents of actual crime and some violent crime on their family.
01:52:14.000And so, yes, I can understand that, like, okay, in the grand scheme of things, in this time period, that it's less than, you know, when there were barbarians and whatever, but there is something going on.
01:53:08.000Well, I don't think they were violent at first, because when I was reading up on this earlier, in the 80s, some El Salvadorian teens who had escaped the Civil War back home...
01:53:18.000We're just like hanging out, drinking, smoking, listening to heavy metal, and then eventually needed to start defending themselves.
01:53:25.000And then in the 90s, this guy who had been trained by Green Berets came over and militarized everybody, you know?
01:53:33.000Well, I was half right, because it did back of origin in Los Angeles.
01:54:23.000Yeah, they didn't actually buy an $800,000 house.
01:54:26.000The house they're renting, and it is a nice house, but they're renting the house so that way they have a place that is not where they used to live because of all the...
01:54:40.000Publicity surrounding the trial and stuff.
01:54:43.000And they were already in a nice house from what I understand.
01:55:02.000Yes, and also they haven't been able to touch their donations yet.
01:55:06.000So I think it's just the internet telephone game.
01:55:10.000Everyone was speculating, and so then it became fact.
01:55:13.000Like when when the donations go in, they should be set up for legal defense to where they're only allowed to be paid out to the legal funds and not to.
01:55:23.000So it doesn't look like, you know, people are getting rich on these donations.
01:55:26.000It should only be able to go to the legal defense and then.
01:55:30.000I don't think that the people that are donating care.
01:55:42.000But I'm talking about, like, in the grand scheme of, like, what would be morally ethical, you shouldn't, like, if you're raising funds after...
01:55:51.000You killed somebody, you shouldn't be able to use it on anything, but whatever.
01:55:59.000Eric Bloodak says, so did anyone notice the classified doc released by the DNI that shows federal classification of gun owners as terrorists?
01:56:09.000I actually retweeted it and retweeted a bunch of tweets about it.
01:56:16.000Essentially, this isn't really news, though.
01:56:20.000If you paid attention to these kind of things, you knew during the Biden administration, the Biden administration looked at gun owners as potential threats.
01:56:30.000The Democrats more broadly want to abolish the Second Amendment and take everyone's guns.
01:56:36.000I don't care how many times they say we respect the Second Amendment, but they don't at all.
01:58:43.000Look, there are at least 10 million illegals, probably 15 or 20 million illegals that came in in the Biden administration because Joe Biden specifically said he told them to break the law.
01:58:57.000Right? So this administration trying to fix the lawlessness of previous administrations means that we're going to have to do some things that the left isn't going to like.
02:08:14.000And I think that that's emblematic of reality and I think is hilarious.
02:08:19.000Can we just say that like going in submarines and paying to go in submarines and paying to go in space are like ridiculous ideas and like just like why does everybody need to be extraordinary?
02:09:39.000But anyway, somebody's going to be out there riding that asteroid belt, and that's going to be really cool, and we'll make it to Enceladus, the ice moon.
02:11:02.000We already know a lot about the moon, and it's certainly not somewhere you could set up potentially a colony, although there have been a lot of books about that.
02:11:10.000I remember this great, like, tween books that I used to read about colonies on Mars.
02:11:15.000Have you read Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles?
02:13:07.000Yeah, you can go to TimCast.com and become a member there, and you will be able to call in and ask questions of us and the guests yourself.