In this episode of the Standard Time Crisis Podcast, host Brett Schafer is joined by comedian Chrissy Mayer and pop culture icon Brett to discuss the latest in the Trump administration, including the latest on the Trump/Liz Cheney war hawk controversy, and the latest jobs numbers. Plus, Brett and the boys discuss some of the craziest things going on in the world right now.
00:00:50.000In some comments that Donald Trump made when he was talking to Tucker Carlson, he was criticizing Liz Cheney's war hawk positions, and they have managed to spin it.
00:01:00.000Along the lines of the old bloodbath comment or the very fine people hoax.
00:01:05.000We're going to talk a little bit about Arizona's Attorney General has decided that these comments are worth looking into, which is more of the ridiculousness that we've come to expect from the left.
00:01:18.000Also, the jobs number from October has been...
00:01:23.000Edited or revised from 100,000 all the way down to 12,000, which has become standard.
00:01:29.000I don't know the last time they actually had an accurate jobs number or a jobs number that was revised up.
00:01:35.000It's always this big number and it always gets revised down, so that's kind of become the normal thing.
00:01:41.000And we're going to talk a little bit about some...
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00:07:02.000It's typical of the left to spin the things that Donald Trump says.
00:07:07.000Like I said in the intro, this is very reminiscent of the very fine people's hoax, very fine people hoax, reminiscent of the bloodbath comment.
00:07:34.000At this point, after this many years, you know who Donald Trump is.
00:07:38.000No, actually, I don't think that's true.
00:07:39.000So one of the things that I found most interesting...
00:07:41.000You were going to say I don't know who he is.
00:07:42.000So one of the things that I found most interesting was what we're in right now is a lot of people who dislike him don't actually like to consume...
00:07:52.000They don't like to read the articles and they definitely don't watch his speeches beyond sound clips.
00:07:57.000So a lot of people who did take the time to tune into the Joe Rogan episode who didn't know him long form said, I can't believe how the people were framing this guy.
00:08:07.000He seems so normal compared to everybody else.
00:08:09.000So you could actually say that a lot of what this country has gone through since 2016, it really is because poor framing and people not willing to look into it's one giant misunderstanding and we are all suffering because of it.
00:08:22.000How much do you think it's actually poor framing, though?
00:08:25.000Like, I understand that he does talk...
00:08:27.000It's evil framing from media, not poor.
00:08:29.000Well, I was thinking more of Donald Trump's actual phrasing, right?
00:08:33.000So he could, like you were saying, he could really be walking on eggshells all the time and be very, very, very careful.
00:08:41.000That would be very out of character for Donald Trump.
00:08:43.000Do you think that if he were more careful, there would be more charitable takes from the left?
00:08:51.000It's not my sense that that would happen.
00:08:53.000I think that they would still be looking for any way that they can attack him.
00:08:57.000Because we've heard, you know, Donald Trump is bad, but if Donald Trump dies...
00:09:27.000Yeah, I mean, the whole situation's ridiculous, and this is something they've been doing non-stop since 2015.
00:09:33.000Every time the man says anything, they try to interpret it in the worst possible way.
00:09:37.000This goes back to long before Trump as well.
00:09:39.000It's just that Trump speaks in a bit more of a bombastic way than most Republican politicians, so there's more for them to try to pick from and twist.
00:09:45.000So with Romney, when he was basically begging the left-wing mob to accept him, I have binders full of women applying for these jobs.
00:09:54.000What he's basically doing is giving assent to their narrative.
00:09:57.000Yes, we should prioritize this DEI initiative of making sure women are given priority in the workplace when we hire them over men.
00:10:04.000And they made fun of him for that because he said it in a clumsy way.
00:10:07.000And they tried to make him out to be a sexist over it.
00:10:10.000So, look, there's no way Trump can avoid being taken out of context at this point.
00:10:15.000And what they're doing here is really egregious.
00:10:21.000No, once you put him on defense, he then actually loses support from his own side because one of the reasons so many people like him is because he does unabashedly go against what they're saying without fault, right?
00:10:31.000So if you turn that on its head and he becomes a completely different person, he not only loses support from his own side, the media is not going to frame it any better.
00:10:40.000Nobody on the left is going to suddenly accept him.
00:13:55.000But to your point earlier, look, they put together these photo montages now of all of the rallies where they've called every Republican a Nazi for the last however many decades.
00:14:08.000So acquiescing to whatever they want, whether it's their feigning of civility, we all understand that that does not matter because they do not care about hypocrisy.
00:14:17.000They will absolutely do all of the things that they claim that you are doing.
00:14:21.000And they will win because the media will frame the narrative and whoever frames the narrative for the largest group of people, meaning those who are following mainstream media, whether it's on social media or the few people who are left watching terrestrial television, you cannot get away from that.
00:14:37.000And it's almost impossible to reframe a person's position.
00:14:41.000Right now, it's impossible to reframe Donald Trump as a good person to people who otherwise thought differently of him.
00:14:47.000The best thing you can do would be to focus on the economy and what he can do for the economy.
00:14:51.000And campaign against the fact that Kamala's track record doesn't work within the White House right now.
00:14:56.000But most people just don't want to have that discussion.
00:15:45.000I don't have it pulled up or access to it right now, but I've seen the old propaganda videos from what I assume were conservatives talking about how the communists were going to attack regular Americans and they've been saying, call them Nazis.
00:16:03.000They've been saying, call them fascists.
00:16:05.000That's been the playbook of the far left, which...
00:16:08.000The actual communists, that has been their playbook for the entire time that there has been, you know, ever since post-World War II, right?
00:16:16.000So at the end of World War II, that was the modus operandi of the far left, and it has not changed one bit since then.
00:16:26.000Well, it's actually gotten worse now because of social media and the ability to reach more people through the internet.
00:16:51.000It's a disservice to the whole country of the United States.
00:16:54.000Well, it's also one of these issues where the further we get away—you're right, it's happening more and more often, and part of that is because the further we get away from World War II, the easier it is to mythologize that time period.
00:17:04.000So what they can do is say things like, well, if you don't support transgenderism, you're a Nazi.
00:17:08.000every single man who fought in the second world war would have opposed transgenderism if it was an issue that was brought to their attention they would have gone that's disgusting right that's not something that they were fighting to try to preserve and so at the time if they were to call you know uh you a nazi for not going along with the insane left-wing program of today when world war ii veterans were still uh living and vocal there's very few of them left they'd come out and say well that's obviously insane i fought the nazis and that's not what i believed everyone who fought
00:17:38.000the nazis would be considered far left by the modern democratic party standards and i'm including the communist russians in that like every single person who did anything to defeat the nazis with a tiny handful of exceptions would be extremely far to the right by the modern democratic party far right not far left like oh did i say left i'm sorry no hold on rewind it i take it back i take it back no yes i'm exhausted but I take it back far right.
00:18:03.000I'm just imagining all these old men like, look, I fought so hard for the right for you to keep your own penis, son.
00:18:38.000Arizona Attorney General Chris Mays said Friday that her office is investigating whether former President Donald Trump's violent remarks about former GOP Representative Liz Cheney broke the law.
00:18:52.000I've already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement, analyzing it for whether it qualifies as a death threat under Arizona's laws.
00:19:00.000Mays, a Democrat, shocker, said during a taping of Sunday Square Off on 12 News in Phoenix, I'm not prepared to say whether it was or it wasn't.
00:19:10.000But it is not helpful as we prepare for our election and as we try to make sure that we keep the peace at our polling places and in our state, Mays told the NBC affiliates.
00:19:50.000Absolutely, totally normal from the left up until Donald Trump says it.
00:19:56.000And then now we're talking about maybe this is a violation of some kind of fabricated law because in the United States, we do have the freedom of speech, but It's protected by the First Amendment, and it is abundantly clear that that was not a threat.
00:20:13.000There was no threat contained in there at all.
00:20:17.000This is meant to just rile up the left, because this is not getting through to anybody on the right.
00:20:21.000I agree that it's meant to rile up the left, but I also think that if they could, they would throw him in jail or do something to...
00:20:48.000Douglas Mackey, and when Jimmy Fallon makes a similar joke just the other night, and that's definitely not going to happen, these things are intended to cool, to put a blanket on the right's confidence in their ability to speak.
00:21:06.000Also recently they've been talking about how if he gets into office, he's going to use the law, the government against his enemies.
00:21:13.000They are unashamed of the hypocrisy in their ability to do exactly what they say you are going to do and do it right in front of your eyes.
00:21:23.000There's a reason why you court a low-info voting bloc.
00:21:27.000That isn't going to look further into this because the ones that won't look into it are useful idiots and the rest of them are the truly evil ones who use your stupidity against your best interests.
00:21:52.000Because either you're so dumb you cannot see the context and see what he was actually saying, or you're evil and you're choosing to ignore the context.
00:22:02.000I think a lot of people, they don't want to put the time in to get the context.
00:22:04.000Because that takes time to get the full context.
00:22:07.000Who's going to sit down and watch all three hours of the Rogan podcast other than people that are like us, who it's our job to kind of know...
00:22:36.000We know now that, what is it, 80% of journalists are Democrats, are registered Democrats, or it's even higher than that.
00:22:43.000I think in the corporate press it's significantly higher.
00:22:45.000Okay, so the point being is that they use your inability to spend three hours against you, and that's compounded with the fact that people take emotional reactions to all of this.
00:22:56.000And so the people who are posting these articles, the lawyer or the people who are in government who are pushing it, they're evil.
00:23:06.000Michael Malice makes a great point, too, when he says, you know, the average person, if you try to tell them that the news is lying to them, like, they understand it in a similar fashion to if you told them that the weatherman is lying to them and not making a mistake, he's intentionally lying to you.
00:23:26.000You know, why would the meteorologist just lie to me about what the weather's gonna be?
00:23:30.000And so it seems so ridiculous to the average person who's not, you know, If you watch 20, 30 minutes of news a week, you're going to have only a wavetop kind of understanding.
00:23:41.000And so it does seem completely out of left field.
00:24:02.000desperate because their grip on power is slipping away.
00:24:05.000And so what they have to do is ensure that their vision for what should be printed, for what should be said for what's allowable is adopted by these major platforms.
00:24:13.000So they're trying to use the power that they still have left to organize boycotts against new media platforms so that they can basically use the purse string to control.
00:24:22.000And they know that headlines really do still manipulate people by their feelings, which is such a powerful aspect of social media.
00:24:28.000It's not even about whether they're watching CNN or not, right?
00:24:31.000It's whether me ma is posting the, the really, really incendiary Trump article in her Facebook mom group.
00:24:38.000That's how you spread the anger far and wide.
00:25:08.000But, and even though there's plenty in Project 2025 that it'd actually be really good for the country, people that have this understanding of it, because of the way that they're told things by the media, they have this understanding of it to be like, oh, this is how you get to the, what's it, the red dress...
00:25:50.000So where do you draw your ire in these situations, right?
00:25:54.000So my anger is with the media, who has worked tirelessly to slander people for the last, well, decades upon decades, but especially the last 8 to 10 years.
00:26:03.000But then you have to ask yourself, look, at a certain point, you're an adult.
00:26:07.000You're responsible for the information that you...
00:26:11.000You're responsible for the information that you're taking in every day, right?
00:26:14.000So if you're going to yell at me about Project 2025, but you're not willing to do the five minutes worth of research it takes to go find the speech of him talking about, I don't even have to say you have to look for videos saying debunking it.
00:26:26.000As if you're trying to not confirm your own bias.
00:26:29.000Just go look for any speech of Donald Trump actually talking about it, and within five to ten minutes you will find at least one clip where he says, I have no interest in this, I don't know what this is about, but they're not willing to do that work.
00:26:41.000So depending on the day, my anger goes between the journalists who actively lie for evil reasons and people who will not do any work to actually change or broaden their horizons on things that they tend to hold against us far more than we hold against them.
00:26:58.000You are more likely to remain friends with your Democrat pals, your lefties, whatever.
00:27:05.000I can agree to disagree about anything.
00:27:06.000But it's their inability to look into it at all, but yet hold it against you as if you're the problem.
00:27:13.000Don't look into it, but break up with your Trump-supporting boyfriend.
00:27:16.000There's something infuriating about that.
00:27:18.000Well, I also want to point something else out, too.
00:27:21.000If you all remember, it was about a year ago when Zelensky said two Americans had the audacity to say to us, if you don't keep funding our war effort, soon you're going to have to send your sons and daughters to fight for us.
00:27:36.000Telling us as a nation that our young men and women should be sent to fight in a war to die for his interests, but Donald Trump cracks a joke about Liz Cheney fighting in a war and they clutch their pearls.
00:27:51.000That is just beyond what is allowable in terms of the Overton window or the discourse.
00:28:05.000But Donald Trump says this woman who is voting in favor of wars, whose father voted in favor of wars and got tens if not hundreds of thousands of people killed should probably have to fight in a war too.
00:29:50.000But I don't know the last time that there was a revision up.
00:29:55.000So job creation in October slowed to its weakest pace since late 2020 as the impacts of storms in the southeast and a significant labor impasse dented the employment picture.
00:30:06.000Nonfarm payrolls increased by 12,000 for the month, down sharply from September and below the Dow Jones estimate of 100,000.
00:30:15.000The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday.
00:30:18.000In what had already been expected to be a downbeat report, October posted the smallest gain since December 2020.
00:30:27.000I mean, we were in the throes of COVID. This doesn't speak well for the next...
00:30:34.000Six months, what the next administration is walking into.
00:30:39.000So personally, I don't have a lot of faith in the left's economic plans.
00:30:44.000They've proven to be less than stellar in the past four years.
00:30:48.000I would like to see Donald Trump or I would, and not even that I think Donald Trump is the guy that's actually writing the, the economic plans for the, the U S if he were to be the president, but I would like to see conservatives because conservatives, uh, economic plans tend to be, uh, more successful.
00:31:06.000They don't need to talk about what they're going to do for the economy because the economy is great.
00:31:22.000Well, the great thing about the economy is that, you know, when it's doing well, you have to tell everyone that it's doing well or they won't notice.
00:31:35.000I watch the news every day to try to figure out whether the economy is good because I can't tell based on my day-to-day life.
00:31:51.000Yeah, am I broke right I know, I thought, I thought, I thought I was, and then I, you know, Don Lemon told me everything's great.
00:31:58.000And it'll be worse, too, because historically we know that when presidents enter office now, there's usually an insane amount of executive orders that get put into play.
00:32:07.000Certainly the killing of the pipeline after the last one, stopping of funding for the border wall, it will only clamp down and get worse.
00:32:14.000But the biggest, the thing that's funniest about this is they're like, vote for economic change by voting for Kamala Harris.
00:32:21.000And then you're like, but like, she's already not.
00:32:24.000I mean, I know she's not the president, but like, they're already there.
00:33:26.000She said that I don't support this, I don't support that, I don't support this.
00:33:28.000All of these positions, these economic positions that she had been...
00:33:33.000Endorsing in 2019 when she was running for president on her own ticket, all of these terrible economy-destroying positions, she's walked them back.
00:33:43.000But I imagine that were she to get into office...
00:33:49.000There would be at least some kind of policies that resemble those because I don't believe for a second that she actually has pro-growth policy.
00:33:58.000The opportunity economy that she's talking about?
00:34:02.000She's not talking about policy that's actually going to make it easier for the job producers to produce jobs.
00:34:10.000And as much as the left hates to hear it, the people that make jobs, they're the millionaires and billionaires.
00:34:16.000So if you have a policy that's attacking millionaires and billionaires, those people are going to tighten their belt and they're going to make cuts or they're going to not hire people.
00:34:30.000They're going to not invest because the government's coming after their profit margins.
00:34:34.000So if the profit margin gets smaller, they're not going to be hiring people.
00:34:37.000And that means that there will not be new jobs for people that are looking for entry-level positions or what have you.
00:34:46.000Well, look what happened in California.
00:34:47.000If you want to look for a model that would run similar at the national scale, when they implemented the wage increase for fast food workers in California and they immediately say, oh, we're going to automate this, we're going to automate that, we're going to fire as many people as we can, they never understand that you have to look to the way these states are run.
00:35:07.000If you want a Look, at least a shadow of a look of what it will look like on the national level.
00:35:12.000Now, obviously, it wouldn't be implemented further, but the thing is, what's odd is the closer you get to election, the less you should believe most of the policies that they start pushing because they're starting to get desperate.
00:35:22.000I mean, look, they're campaigning for white dudes again.
00:35:25.000There's white dudes for Harris, right?
00:35:27.000You're talking about deporting people now.
00:35:29.000They've ignored white dudes for the last, you know, 10 years, but suddenly they need to win an election.
00:35:34.000They don't have a white guy running, which automatically...
00:35:37.000How is she going to have money for all this?
00:35:38.000How is she going to have money for trans inmates to grow a penis on their arm while they're in jail?
00:35:44.000How is she going to have money for giving black guys, they get a special...
00:35:58.000It's just, the level of pandering on that was so weird.
00:36:01.000I had never, I had never in my entire time on this planet, in my entire time paying attention to politics, I never heard anyone say, the primary issue for me is ensuring that black men have their crypto protected.
00:36:23.000But it's like, we never at any point in time, it's not like black people are coming together and be like, where was the systemic racism in crypto?
00:36:34.000But the campaign is just trying to promise, as you said, they're just trying to promise people whatever they think will get them to vote for.
00:36:40.000It almost seems like she knows she's going to lose.
00:36:44.000Like, this is a campaign that a candidate would run just to keep up with the appearances.
00:36:48.000Everything, well, the lack of what she says at all these speeches and podcast appearances she's doing, right?
00:36:53.000Everything's, I'm from a middle-class family.
00:36:54.000Like, she's kind of just appeasing the donors.
00:36:57.000It almost seems like she doesn't think she can do it.
00:36:59.000The thing that she has that seems to be the most compelling is abortion.
00:37:04.000Yeah, she wants to let the women kill themselves.
00:37:05.000Yeah, and even that she has to lie about because the federal government isn't going to be doing anything.
00:37:13.000Because it's not on the ballot at all?
00:37:14.000Well, not only that, but the federal government, I mean, the Supreme Court said that the federal government can't make a nationwide law about it, that it has to go to states.
00:37:21.000It's so disgusting the way she'll frame it in a rally and she'll be like, this is about, you know, you get to plan your family the way you want.
00:37:43.000And they had a line where it was – I can't remember if it was J.D. Vance.
00:37:48.000And to be fair, it might have been an adjacent account, another one of these left-wing accounts.
00:37:52.000But they were talking about how Republicans are going to try to track women's menstrual cycles and have a tana base, which is the most – Alright, there's an easy way of determining what life in America is going to start to look like since Roe v.
00:38:07.000And that is the 200 years of American history prior to Roe being decided.
00:38:13.000They were tracking women's menstrual cycles in 1972 and earlier.
00:38:17.000If you want a red wave, you have to track our menstrual cycles.
00:38:21.000Maybe they're just trying to help them out.
00:38:22.000They're like, look, if you can pay attention to the women in your life, if you need to know when your wife is going to be upset, you got to track the menstrual cycle.
00:39:27.000According to the police officer who arrested her, the police officer who arrested her believed that the child was born alive and then the woman killed it and hid the body.
00:39:37.000But regardless of whether that happened, because the investigation didn't prove that that happened or not, but what they said was this woman was smoking meth while pregnant.
00:39:49.000The autopsy showed that the unborn child was between 28 and 32 weeks, which if you want to look at what a 28 to 32 week old unborn child It's a full-blown baby.
00:40:36.000Yeah, I feel like people that are at least center-right or to the right are very aware of that.
00:40:46.000I think the difficulty is convincing the average person, the average person that doesn't have a significant news diet, convincing them that that's the case.
00:40:57.000Because again, I go back to Michael Malice's statement, trying to convince someone that the weatherman's lying to you.
00:41:02.000Well, Kamala's got such a huge base of college-educated female voters.
00:41:07.000It's like, she's preaching to the choir with that.
00:41:09.000It's like, oh, you don't want to be tied down with a pregnancy, do you?
00:41:12.000You've got a lot of brunches left in you, ladies.
00:41:15.000Well, or all the celebrities who talk about, I wouldn't have been able to have my career if I hadn't had an abortion when I was younger.
00:41:25.000And I think that's disgusting and terrible.
00:41:27.000But on some level, it's like it's more honest than what they continue to say right now, which is, well, if we don't have abortion bans, all of these women are going to die.
00:41:40.000They'll leave out all of the women who died from having abortions before Roe was overturned.
00:41:45.000But the center of the bullseye for them is, yeah, we want to just be able to discard with human life when it's not convenient for us.
00:41:50.000Also a story that's framed to be that terrifying plays into the villain-esque role that they've created for Donald Trump in Four Republicans.
00:42:03.000And I was like, look, this is the problem is you can't separate how you look at a Marvel villain.
00:42:10.000Because first of all, there's like endless interviews of lame movie producers and writers who are like, oh, Donald Trump was the inspiration for this character or Elon Musk was the inspiration for this character.
00:42:21.000They can no longer separate rightly the difference between actual politicians who are trying to enact some type of governmental policy and weird Nazis and war criminals, right?
00:42:34.000Because they actually have framed the war criminals as the good guys because they're the part of the Uniparty now.
00:42:39.000So it plays into all of their deluded fantasies that there's this evil that they're trying to stamp out.
00:43:31.000It just goes to show, as I mentioned earlier, even Ike Eisenhower, and I'm sure people before him were compared to Hitler or compared to the Nazis.
00:43:37.000And yeah, you look at Jordan Peterson as if he's out there like, I'm just asking questions about racial superiority, man.
00:45:48.000This might upset some fans, but there's this great meme of what George Carlin would be like today, but it's just people speculating that he would have just fallen in line with the shit lift.
00:46:15.000We don't really talk about communism often enough, even though it's one of the most horrific ideologies that's existed historically.
00:46:21.000And it's gotten to the point where whenever media of the Cold War era is created, they always depict the fear of communism as this silly fad that was nothing more than a moral panic, and it was totally overblown.
00:46:38.000People who were living In a world where an ideology had killed over a hundred million people, and one of the largest nations on the planet was governed by that ideology, and they had nukes!
00:46:51.000Those people being concerned about communism were a bunch of rubes and fools, but you, living 80 years after the death of Hitler and the fall of Nazism, being concerned that everyone is a Nazi, makes you an enlightened intellectual, not a paranoid freak.
00:47:08.000You are a paranoid freak if 80 years after the fall of Nazism, you're still concerned that there might be a Nazi around every corner, but you think that it's foolish to fear communism in an era where communism is still a governing force in the world.
00:47:49.000The inside story of how the Kamala Harris campaign manipulates Reddit and breaks the rules to control the platform.
00:47:57.000Now, I know that there's going to be people that are going to say, oh, there's people that aren't aware of what Reddit's like, and they're going to say, that's terrible, that's a bad thing, it's more of the same.
00:48:06.000But if anyone's familiar with Reddit and the way the mods behave, it is an absolute leftist mess.
00:48:14.000It is atrocious the way they got rid of the Donald Trump Reddit just because people are here saying nice things about Donald Trump.
00:48:24.000So from The Federalist, for years, many have speculated that Democrat political candidates may be filling social media with fake posts to deceive the public and make their campaigns and causes seem more popular than they are.
00:48:37.000These claims have often been dismissed by the left, citing that Democrat voters are already more likely to be on the Internet compared to their not as tech savvy Republican counterparts.
00:48:50.000Yeah, and don't you know Republicans are dumb?
00:48:53.000Republicans totally dominate the meme game online.
00:48:55.000Like, most independent media is right-leading.
00:48:57.000That's what they're always complaining about.
00:49:01.000This would suggest that the constant flood of left-leaning content on websites such as Reddit was merely a reflection of the user base.
00:49:08.000However, many people simply couldn't shake the feeling that something was just off, especially in the run-up to major elections.
00:49:17.000Despite my fervent belief that something was amiss, I never had any direct proof that Democrats were actively manipulating social media.
00:49:22.000That all changed two weeks ago when ex-user Jesse Princey replied to one of my posts with a screenshot from a Discord server seemingly related to the Harris-Waltz campaign.
00:49:35.000The post says that calling all Reddit users, the no-access team would love your help.
00:49:40.000We're posting and boosting breaking informative and positive Harris and Waltz news, as well as campaign-generated memes and screenshots of Kamala Harris' HQ social media to turn the tide on Reddit from orange to blue.
00:49:53.000We especially need people who can post at our politics, our news, our technology, and other large subreddits.
00:49:59.000I don't think this is a surprise, and anyone that spends a decent amount of time on X might be familiar with the fact that there are some accounts that are far left that don't have a lot of followers, but they'll post something and it gets tons of shares and tons of likes.
00:50:21.000And there's been a lot of speculation that it's people on Reddit.
00:50:50.000It's a bit confusing because on one hand you have Zuckerberg apologizing for basically collaborating with, what was it, the CIA or the FBI? The Biden White House, I believe.
00:51:01.000Yeah, the Biden White House, basically the way they squelched the laptop story.
00:51:06.000That's all coming out, but you still have this, and this seems like they're up to the same old shenanigans as astroturfing.
00:51:14.000Their ground game is infinitely better than the rights.
00:51:17.000There's a reason why if you get somebody knocking on your door to talk politics 90% of the time, it's somebody campaigning for a Democrat, right?
00:51:24.000It's just the way that they move from group to group and get...
00:51:38.000So they have people go into trailer reactions and things like that to promote movies and talk good about them.
00:51:45.000It goes into comment sections for these things.
00:51:48.000All this is is just that the internet that you're looking at now, which is supposed to be the public square, is artificially filled with people who are Either monetarily incentivized or, in this case, ideologically incentivized.
00:52:00.000And they do organize on other forums and things like this.
00:52:03.000This is just, in a lot of ways, them being better at getting their message out.
00:52:17.000Well, it's funny because they will call us members of a cult and they're the ones knocking on doors.
00:52:22.000They're like, have you heard about Kamala Harris?
00:52:24.000I'm not going to get into the whole James Lindsay stuff, but I honestly think that he's got his finger on the pulse when it comes to the cult aspect, the religious aspect of the left.
00:52:36.000He's focusing on the right currently, but he's really brought to light a lot of the The esoteric kind of foundations of the statist ideas from the left and how without traditional religions, that doesn't mean that religion goes away.
00:52:54.000There's a void that gets filled by something else.
00:52:57.000Listen, part of what's really interesting about this, though, is that they felt a need to manipulate Reddit, which is already a very, very left-leaning platform.
00:53:08.000That's the first thing that I thought was...
00:53:10.000Do you think that's because it's a friendly base and they feel like they get more traction because they already have a foothold there?
00:53:16.000I mean, it's possible, but you'd think that if a website was solidly on your side, you would try to interfere with another one.
00:53:36.000Like, a platform that's maybe more friendly to them than X, but is not as overtly left-wing as Reddit, because everyone, like, Reddit, it's basically Tumblr in terms of politics.
00:53:46.000It's probably a little more establishment than...
00:53:50.000tumblr was but it's very very to the left when elon musk bought twitter it kind of like was a crack in the democrat social media like the dam yeah because democrats have controlled all of social every platform anything that was popular democrats had such control over and then elon buys twitter you get the twitter files right you get uh joe rogan is the top podcast and these are cracks in the dam and now the water's flowing out and people are seeing it and they're saying that's why reddit has become a problem they're like oh crap like we're getting more leaks and it's continuing continuing
00:54:19.000and that's why i think at times it's like the stuff they post is so out of touch Because they didn't need to care before.
00:54:29.000Again, not to reference Jordan Peterson too much, but he made a point that zero is a special number.
00:54:36.000When you have no outlets that are promoting a particular perspective, then you have a very, very, very difficult time getting anything out.
00:56:17.000When you go to the source and you discredit the news outlet itself or the platform itself, it allows them also in a weird way to stay in their own echo chamber because they don't have to actually take into account anything you're saying because they can just say, well, they got it off this platform I don't agree with, therefore it must be wrong or lying.
00:56:34.000And they do that with the supporters of Trump too.
00:56:36.000How could you vote for someone who has the support of these people or Fuentes or whoever's like the hated group DuJour?
00:57:10.000And it's not, because the left is in no way prevented from being there.
00:57:15.000Media Matters, all those sites, and whoever has a left-wing bias, they are more than welcome to be there.
00:57:25.000They do not get banned for having left-wing perspectives, for saying left-wing...
00:57:29.000Talking points, making left-wing points at all, they do not get banned unless they break the actual rules.
00:57:35.000Plus they wanted the echo chamber, right?
00:57:37.000So one of the issues was is they had the echo chamber before where they got to post whatever they wanted when it was Twitter and a lot of people who would be able to push back on what they were saying were already banned.
00:57:47.000It's one of the reasons I think why Instagram tried to make threads a thing.
00:58:15.000And people crave the authenticity of that.
00:58:17.000And so when you see these AstroTurf posts, you see Harry Sisson going on Twitter, and despite the worst interview in recent memory of any political candidate, he's like, oh my god, she hit it out of the park, right?
00:58:37.000If you look at the comments section of the Theo Vaughn episode where he interviewed J.D. Vance, people are like, wait, we were being told that this guy's so weird.
00:58:47.000Yeah, that was one of the things that I noticed most is the reaction to J.D. Vance actually getting out into the public space and the way that people said, wait a minute, we were told that this guy is so weird and he's the most normal dude ever.
00:59:02.000And I think that you see the same thing probably.
00:59:04.000I haven't looked at the comments from the Joe Rogan podcast, but I watched the...
00:59:36.000I'm friends with a lot of school shooters, the guy said.
00:59:39.000And I'm sure that there's plenty of stuff that seems weird that's just him misspeaking because it's, you know, he's not used to being, I don't know, he's a governor, so he should be used to it, or was a governor, so he should be used to it, but maybe he's not used to that much attention from the whole country or whatever, but...
00:59:57.000When you contrast with J.D. Vance, he comes across as weird and Vance seems perfectly normal.
01:00:04.000Well, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
01:00:05.000The donut shop that you brought up, right?
01:00:07.000They're like, we're going to do this thing.
01:00:18.000And this is part of what's so amazing about the world of podcasting now.
01:00:22.000The fact that you can have multiple hour-long conversations with these political figures and you really get to know them.
01:00:29.000I have never felt like I have known who a...
01:00:33.000Vice presidential candidate was in my entire life to the extent that I feel I know who J.D. Vance is just because I've gotten to listen to hours of him speaking.
01:01:00.000But what really struck me when he said that, I just thought, oh my goodness, that's the first time in my entire life I've ever heard a vice presidential candidate tell me what they think about the presidential candidate.
01:01:12.000Like, that's the first time I've ever— Like, what their perspective was about them, what their interactions are like with them.
01:01:18.000Instead, it's all this, like, focused group, rehearsed, and teleprompted talking points, and then you get up for five minutes.
01:01:27.000It makes you think, because you're like, wait, why did Kamala only want to do an hour with Rogan?
01:01:51.000And then they edit the 60 Minutes interview so that you don't know how awful it was.
01:01:56.000Everyone knows that more people catch the clips.
01:01:58.000Then catch the live of anything like that.
01:02:01.000It's one of the reasons why Jon Stewart came back, right?
01:02:03.000So he can go and they can cut those things up into clips so that he can influence the election the way that he wants to go.
01:02:09.000So they're used to a state-sponsored media program that is, you know, all of these, whether it's 60 Minutes, whether it's CNN or MSNBC, they want access.
01:02:20.000They want access to these candidates and they're willing to make whatever concessions they have to to do so because not just because they want the access, but they agree with them.
01:03:09.000And you look at the views that Call Her Daddy got on YouTube when Kamala went on, as opposed to the viewership that Trump's conversation with Joe Rogan had.
01:03:34.000I mean, granted, those are all people that are already voting for her anyway.
01:03:36.000She's kind of preaching to the choir on Call Her Daddy.
01:03:39.000But the most infuriating thing this entire election cycle was watching Tim Walz play Madden in the strategically placed Mountain Dew bottle that you know he didn't drink.
01:03:51.000It wasn't even a regular Mountain Dew.
01:04:18.000And the fact that most people these days pick up on it still seems strange to me considering how close the election is.
01:04:25.000You should be able to see this type of inauthenticity from 10 miles away.
01:04:29.000My favorite part of that whole Madden with AOC and Tim Walz was there was a tweet of a retweet of AOC's post or something saying, hey, check me out on Twitch.
01:04:37.000And this guy's like, ah, yes, that's exactly what I'll do.
01:04:39.000Instead of watching seven hours of NFL Red Zone, I'll go watch Tim Walz play Madden.
01:04:43.000I'm like, dude, like, someone told them in the back room, like, hey, hey, let's do it on football Sunday, right?
01:04:47.000Because people like football and it happens on Sundays, so play the football video game on Sunday.
01:05:08.000I'm a broken record here because I keep saying this thought didn't originate with me, but this is one thing I heard people saying about that whole stream is that him and AOC were going back and forth with these very rehearsed, boring political talking points.
01:05:47.000My favorite thing about that was when Milo said that she looked like a serial killer that was dressed like AOC. Oh, man.
01:05:54.000It's funny because that actually hurts.
01:05:56.000Obsessed with AOC. That hurts her because one of her selling points early on in her political career was that she did seem more authentic, a left-wing version of that.
01:06:05.000She would go on her Instagram lives and talk directly to the people that followed her.
01:06:10.000So she actually benefited from the same type of authenticity that we're talking about right-wing politicians trying to put forth.
01:07:06.000I mean, people will say Trump isn't humble.
01:07:09.000I mean, sure, in certain ways he isn't, but I actually think it's way, way, way more humble to be a billionaire and act like a rich person than to be a billionaire and act like you're a broke college student.
01:08:11.000It's a modest-sized TV because if you show the whole room, it's full of a bunch of antagonists.
01:08:17.000If you're outside, don't show the expensive view.
01:08:20.000They did this with Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis when they had, when, was it, he didn't get Me Too'd, but there was like human.
01:08:27.000They had to apologize for what they faced.
01:08:29.000They went and they like filmed on the side of the barn at their house, so it looks like they're in a very, very rural area, but really they're just on this wealthy plot of land.
01:09:10.000Basically, if you were making money doing illegal things and you didn't want to get audited, you wouldn't want money in your bank account, so you would just buy expensive gold stuff and wear it.
01:09:19.000Because if you're living in a bad neighborhood, you can't keep it at home when you're safe because you might get robbed.
01:09:23.000So you just put all of your money into expensive jewelry and wear it on you all the time.
01:09:26.000That's such a bad investment, too, because jewelry does not retain its value at all.
01:10:21.000You don't have to do the whole DEI song and dance either.
01:10:24.000The argument that this is the last election that Elon Musk likes to make, I'm not sure if it will be a single party, but I do think that there will be a lot of people on the right that will say it's not worth it to vote anymore.
01:10:39.000I mean, if there are dejected voters, there will be a lot of people that will be like, everybody hated Kamala Harris.
01:11:01.000And so that means that the quote-unquote deep state wins and voting is pointless and everything is just at the convenience of the government.
01:11:49.000Elon Musk spends a lot of money on memes.
01:11:52.000A lot of the rocket launches are kind of memes.
01:11:55.000They really are kind of showing you what's possible.
01:12:00.000And I do think that if you have a Harris administration, I don't see them being particularly friendly to SpaceX, to the aspirations that Elon Musk has about getting.
01:12:11.000The goal is to have, I think, have the ability to do 10 or 20 launches a day because the reusable rocket comes down, they clean it off, refuel it and go again.
01:12:21.000If he can't get clearance to do a launch more than every few months, then he might be right that human beings are never going to get off the planet and colonize Mars because governments won't allow it.
01:12:36.000The bureaucracy will just drag you down.
01:12:39.000And that is a real, actual consideration.
01:12:43.000Like, if you do not have a government that empowers its people to go try and fail and learn from the failures...
01:12:52.000Then you're never gonna have the kind of progress that we need to be able to get off of Earth.
01:12:57.000And whether you believe colonizing Mars is realistic or not, asteroids coming to the Earth and smashing into the Earth and killing all life on Earth, those are real.
01:13:09.000Like, that's happened in history, it's happened multiple times, so it's not a bad idea to say, hey, we should try and figure out a way to get some kind of Plan B Even if it's just something like space stations that human beings can stay in for more than just a few months or whatever, or a year or two, so that we have something like that, something catastrophic happens, the species can survive, or at least has a chance.
01:13:36.000And regardless of the likelihood of that kind of a scenario, surely we can agree that space exploration is worthwhile and that Elon Musk has really been progressing the technology in a way that we haven't seen the government.
01:13:47.000And we also know that, for a fact at this point, really, that they're going to go after Elon if they win this election.
01:13:53.000They're going to go after him, and they are going to try to shut down SpaceX and make it more difficult for him to engage in the development of technology for space exploration.
01:14:01.000There's something that we say on PCC a lot, and that is bring back aspirational.
01:14:07.000We generally talk about it in the context of advertising.
01:14:58.000The point is, if you don't have people that will dream big and have goals that are beyond what you think you can do, then you're not going to have significant progress.
01:15:12.000They call themselves progressive and all they do is want to go ahead and hold everyone back, crabs in a bucket, and we need aspirational people.
01:16:18.000They want to shut down anybody who aspires to anything.
01:16:22.000And it's just really ironic to hear people call Elon Musk mediocre when he's done more to advanced space exploration and creating electric cars and all of these things that...
01:16:32.000You know, quote-unquote humanists used to consider their goals.
01:16:34.000Well, they call Kamala Harris, who's just completely empty-headed and impressive, just an absolutely vapid, bubble-headed person.
01:17:27.000Well, yeah, I was just going to say, they get really upset about billionaires, and they'll go, a person could work for millions and millions of years and never earn that kind of money at an Normal wage rate, and you go, okay, the government spends 19 billion dollars per day, per day, the amount of money that they burn through, and you're not interested in examining where that money's going, how much of it is wasted.
01:17:46.000We know the Pentagon fails its audits all the time, and something like a third of the money that we throw at the industrial military complex just vanishes, and you're not really interested in exploring that.
01:17:54.000Pallets of money just disappear overseas.
01:17:56.000And by the way, despite what most left-wing pundits will tell you, the military is not our largest expenditure either.
01:18:03.000We spend more on Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security, and you wonder what kind of waste is going on there.
01:18:08.000But it's like people are only interested in critiquing the way wealth is used when the wealth is being used by a billionaire.
01:18:17.000But you can't control what the billionaire does with his wealth.
01:18:19.000You can control what the government does with the money if you vote.
01:18:23.000And it's like, so what's your solution?
01:18:24.000You want the government to take Elon Musk's wealth so that they can waste it and then you cannot care that it was wasted because the government did it?
01:18:45.000We're going to go ahead and go to the next story here.
01:18:48.000Boeing slashes DEI department in latest staff shake-up.
01:18:53.000And I think that this kind of has a little bit to do with the last topic that we were talking about.
01:18:59.000Boeing dismantled its Global Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion department on Thursday, according to a report by Bloomberg, citing sources familiar with the matter.
01:19:08.000The report stated that the staff from Boeing's DEI office will be combined with another human resource team focused on talent and employee experience.
01:20:27.000General tenor of society now, and in conjunction with tangible losses and damages that Boeing has to absorb, has made them say, hey, we actually do have to hire based on merit.
01:20:43.000And especially when you're dealing with a company like Boeing, because not only are they dealing with planes, all the stuff with the 737 was a nightmare, and that shook a lot of people's confidence.
01:20:54.000In flying overall, because 737s are, you know, every Southwest airline plane is a 737.
01:23:34.000So whenever people are scared on the plane, I'm like, you are statistically more likely to die in a car crash anyways, and then I ruin it for everyone.
01:23:42.000Now no one's excited for the plane to go down anymore.
01:23:48.000We actually did a cartoon a while ago.
01:23:51.000I think it was over a year ago at this point, but it was just like when the pilot's an affirmative action hire.
01:23:56.000And it's a goofy one, but the general idea, which I think we can all agree to, is they're Are certain positions we should be especially concerned about DEI with?
01:24:06.000Like, when it comes to, you know, an industry where a mistake can kill hundreds of people.
01:24:15.000No, but even that, like, why should you have to lose your luggage just because somebody decided that certain people have a good skin color and that people with the good skin color have to be put in the positions that people with the bad skin color didn't deserve?
01:24:56.000They stranded two human beings in space.
01:24:59.000They stranded two human beings in space.
01:25:00.000And they are investigating, I think there's at least six investigations against SpaceX, or maybe just Elon Musk companies, but there's multiple federal investigations of SpaceX, the company that's going to successfully retrieve those people.
01:25:39.000All these federal investigations into Elon, whose company is actually saving these astronauts, because the federal government gets a pass for everything.
01:25:46.000And this is why it's so transparent that we just should not be giving more obligations to the federal government, because who investigates the government when they do something wrong?
01:25:54.000Listen, I want for there to be a legal environment Where the people we trust with important functions can be investigated fairly when they do something wrong.
01:26:03.000The government's not going to get a fair investigation.
01:26:06.000It's full of political activists at this point who are only going to go after their enemies.
01:26:10.000Have you seen the photos of the SpaceX teams or the new Twitter teams?
01:27:18.000And it's also a terrible idea because clearly it was not beneficial to X or to, you know, honestly to any company.
01:27:27.000I remember when Black Panther was being made, there was a post from some publication and it was a picture of the cast and they were all black and it was like, the most diverse cast in film history.
01:27:36.000I'm like, what do you think the word diverse means?
01:27:47.000I mean, it is a terrible development that, you know, this has become the situation where the safety of people in airplanes...
01:27:58.000It comes second to the safety of the feelings of people that would be, I don't know, reading an article about who works at a place or, you know, the feelings of people that apply for a job.
01:28:12.000I mean, again, we said this, but the people that are flying planes, particularly the people that are working air traffic control, that, if I understand correctly, that is a really, really stressful and difficult job.
01:28:24.000But those people should be the best of the best.
01:28:30.000I don't want someone that got through by the skin of their teeth.
01:28:33.000I don't want someone that is second best.
01:28:37.000If there's someone that's better at the job, then they should have the job.
01:28:40.000There shouldn't be anything other than the best and people that are clearly qualified.
01:28:48.000And to do anything else is not just doing a disservice to the people that are actually qualified, but you're putting lives on the line.
01:28:57.000We got to this point because of NPC behavior, right?
01:28:59.000Boeing saw all these other companies, and it's okay if Target has a DEI program, but when you keep going up the chain and it gets to Boeing, where real lives are at risk, that's the issue.
01:29:19.000The best people should be in the job, especially when human lives are at risk.
01:29:24.000You risk destroying this whole industry of race hustlers who are various consultants and they work for universities.
01:29:31.000The consultant class is the one that needs to be abolished more than anything.
01:29:35.000And it also does a disservice to those that fall into those jobs that were already diverse, right?
01:29:41.000Like, so the ones who are good at their jobs, who got there on merit, are now second-guessed, and that's not good for anybody because that fosters bad relationships between human beings.
01:29:51.000I mean, I think everyone's probably fairly aware of the fact that, like, in 20...
01:29:56.000In 2009, 2008, there was a general consensus in America that race relations had never been better, that we were kind of like, you know, we were like, yeah, I think that we kind of, you know, we're not really that racist society anymore.
01:30:10.000We have some black marks in our society, in our history, but...
01:30:15.000We kind of really put a lot of effort into moving past it, and I think that, and this is both, you know, black people and white people were kind of of the opinion, yeah, I think, you know, things are much better.
01:30:25.000There were still, of course, going to be racist people and bigotry and stuff, but it wasn't the norm.
01:30:31.000No one thought that it was the norm anyway.
01:30:33.000And then by 2013, 2014, it has just all gone to shit, you know, like where people were just like, oh, race relations have never been worse.
01:30:42.000Thomas Sowell said, I'm going to paraphrase the quote, but Thomas Sowell said, America has a supply and demand problem now with racism, right?
01:30:49.000Everyone expects to see it everywhere, and it's just not that common.
01:31:25.000So, I think we're going to go to Super Chat.
01:31:28.000So, smash the like button, share the show with your friends, and go on over to TimCast.com and join up and become a member because, not tonight, but normally, Monday through Thursday, we do the after show where things get a little spicy and, you know, we can say what we really think.
01:34:53.000When I was growing up playing sports, the idea was if you lost by one run, you have nobody to blame but yourself, right?
01:34:58.000Because you need to win, so you need to get everybody involved and get up out and vote because if it's something that can be taken on such small margins, that's because you didn't do your job.
01:37:33.000And of all the places that have historically been left-leaning and might actually change or whatever, I think Portland is actually high likelihood because Portland put up with a lot of crap in the Summer of Love.
01:39:59.000If it were me, maybe I would, but I'm not sure what his whole deal is because he's got the whole portable studio that he's bringing with him.
01:40:07.000He's going to do some stuff, content tomorrow, if I understand correctly.
01:41:42.000I don't know that we're going to go with that moniker.
01:41:45.000Shimcast and Brimcast, they did that, and I think that if there's going to be a name for when I fill in, it's not going to be the Philcast.
01:41:54.000I think we're going to go with something else.
01:41:56.000Probably not actually any specific name.
01:47:07.000It was pretty slimy, and I was watching it, and I think that Sam Seder had come with the intention of trying to get under his skin more than actually trying to get any kind of productive conversation.
01:48:04.000I thought, I was like, oh, this might be a shit show.
01:48:07.000It kind of didn't seem like the energy was even that high, for the hour that I saw, at least.
01:48:13.000It didn't even seem like it was getting crazy and aggressive.
01:48:15.000Now, as soon as Sam came on, he tried to go into drama, which I was glad Tim called him out for.
01:48:21.000He's like, you're having me on your show, but you've said I'm blacklisted from your show.
01:48:25.000And then he played clips of Tim saying he's blacklisted from other people's show, which is not what he claimed Tim said.
01:48:30.000And it was like, alright, so that's, this is obviously not like a productive conversation thus far, but it wasn't, it didn't really feel like a debate.
01:48:38.000It would have been kind of hilarious if Tim was like, you're right, and just stop the show.
01:48:49.000I will say from sitting in the room since I produced the show this morning, sitting in that room for three hours, it seemed like Tim was genuinely trying to have a conversation and a debate about ideas and Sam was trying to say, just trying to drive home, ha, I'm right.
01:49:09.000So what happened was, as they're having the conversation, they were talking about the death penalty, and Tim said, well, I don't think it should be up to the state to determine...
01:49:19.000And then Sam says, well, I just don't think it should be up to any human to determine who lives and who dies.
01:49:23.000And then Tim starts listing off situations like self-defense, where a person does determine who lives and dies, and Sam goes like, well, I don't know what that has to do with the death penalty.
01:49:32.000No, you're the one who just said you don't think anyone, regardless of whether we're talking about the death penalty or it's the government should decide who lives or dies.
01:49:38.000And it was like frustrating listening, like, wait, how did no one call him out for that?
01:58:58.000From the right when everything they did was leftist but focused on race.
01:59:03.000You know, I don't know that I want to engage in that argument right now, but I do, I am sympathetic to the idea that totalitarian governments tend to be, totalitarian governments that are not, that are not theocracies tend to be from the left.
01:59:19.000But Nazism was a little, was kind of unique because there was a lot of traditionalism that they were trying, that they were at least hearkening back to.
01:59:28.000Well, I think a main key point to remember is you absolutely can't have right-wing philosophies, and I think many of them even demand that you have smaller, more limited, more local governments.
01:59:39.000I mean, leftism requires totalitarianism to function because it's so contrary to human nature that somebody has to be enforcing the new normal.
01:59:48.000Policy's so good, they have to mandate it.