Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Media Warns Of Civil War Following Charlie Kirk Assassination | Timcast IRL

00:02:49.000 Today there was a bomb threat at the DNC.

00:02:53.000 There's currently reports of an active shooting in Annapolis.

00:02:57.000 There were some false threats, bomb threats, and shooting threats at various universities.

00:03:02.000 And of course, it is 9-11.

00:03:05.000 And it is the day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:03:09.000 As I was watching the news earlier, I couldn't help but...

00:03:13.000 I just had a strange feeling.

00:03:15.000 Every few minutes, they were reporting some type of conflict.

00:03:20.000 The ones I just mentioned.

00:03:22.000 And I'm thinking to myself, this is insanity.

00:03:26.000 Maybe people are panicking, they're on high alert.

00:03:29.000 These universities where they were reporting shootings or bomb threats was because people are panicking and they're genuinely terrified following what happened to Charlie.

00:03:37.000 But the media, of course, has already responded.

00:03:39.000 And of course they did.

00:03:41.000 With numerous outlets writing that fears of civil war are emerging, or that civil war is here or coming, or that even Donald Trump is fomenting it intentionally to steal the midterms.

00:03:54.000 I kid you not.

00:03:54.000 Videos are emerging of fights breaking out.

00:03:59.000 People are not tolerating the rhetoric coming from these activists.

00:04:02.000 In one video, a man with a sign that said Charlie deserved it was thrown into a fountain.

00:04:07.000 Regular people are starting to snap over the actions of these progressives in the left.

00:04:14.000 Donald Trump put out a statement last night talking about the radical left and their rhetoric.

00:04:21.000 So to be honest, there was a lot of news to go over.

00:04:26.000 What with these shootings, bomb threats, etc.

00:04:30.000 There is also the FBI releasing an image of a person of interest, TMZ publishing a video that they say is of this person who appears to be walking strangely, perhaps because they were concealing a weapon, we're not entirely sure.

00:04:41.000 But all of it seems wrapped up in the cultural phenomenon that is on X to millions of views.

00:04:50.000 On Blue Sky to millions of views in the comments of our old shows that featured Charlie Kirk, these leftists are calling for an escalation.

00:04:59.000 Certainly, there are people on the right that are saying this is war and war's here.

00:05:03.000 One post has nearly 10,000, I think around 8,000 to 9,000 retweets saying that civil war is now.

00:05:11.000 And so that is my fear.

00:05:13.000 But what I will say is if you've paid attention to this show, we've discussed everything that brought us to this moment in the past several years, which we'll get into.

00:05:23.000 Right now, of course, we fear the safety and security of our friends, our family, other personalities.

00:05:29.000 And as much as I would have preferred to lead with any other story, I think this is the conversation that is happening.

00:05:40.000 And so we just have to have that conversation.

00:05:42.000 And so we will.

00:05:44.000 So uh my friends, thank you for joining us.

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00:05:53.000 Joining us uh today to talk about this and so much more is Jay Johnston.

00:05:57.000 Hello, how are you doing?

00:05:59.000 Thanks for having me.

00:06:00.000 Um I will uh uh tell you what I do, so you don't have to ask.

00:06:05.000 I'm uh ex-comedian, ex-writer uh in Hollyweird, and uh um I was uh at January 6th, which was a big uh blip and and caused me to not be what I was before.

00:06:20.000 So um that's uh still uh my my plan to do that stuff, but uh now that that's over, uh pardoned and everything.

00:06:30.000 So we'll see what uh the future holds.

00:06:32.000 Right on.

00:06:33.000 Thanks for uh for joining us.

00:06:34.000 In fact, one of the articles, Mother Jones wrote that pardoned J6ers are calling for civil war in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination.

00:06:41.000 Yeah, I'm not.

00:06:42.000 Yeah.

00:06:42.000 So uh but we'll talk about everything.

00:06:44.000 We've got uh Tate Brown hanging up.

00:06:45.000 Yeah, Tate Brown here, uh relief host here at Timcast.

00:06:48.000 Uh say dark times we're in, but I'm glad to be here.

00:06:51.000 Hi, everyone.

00:06:52.000 My name is Mary Morgan.

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00:06:58.000 Hello, everybody.

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00:07:04.000 Let's get into it.

00:07:05.000 Here's the story from the Independent.

00:07:07.000 The reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder proves America is closer than ever to its next civil war.

00:07:13.000 The most terrifying aspect of the current reality of the United States is not the assassination of the 31-year-old Trump activist, but how people have responded.

00:07:20.000 Writes Stephen Marsh, author of The Next Civil War, as the sense of collective mourning no longer applies, this is a turning point for what comes next.

00:07:30.000 He actually writes a pretty great article.

00:07:32.000 He makes a great point, which uh I will read through this.

00:07:34.000 I want to show you some of these other articles, where he says that even the cold-blooded murder in broad daylight of a 31-year-old man in front of his family was not enough to make these people recognize right from wrong.

00:07:49.000 And I don't disagree.

00:07:51.000 Take a look at this article from International Business Times.

00:07:56.000 First, Charlie Kirk, our Candace Owens or Ben Shapiro next.

00:08:01.000 Fears grow for conservative influencers.

00:08:03.000 Mother Jones writes, pardoned insurrectionists are using Charlie Kirk's death to call for civil war.

00:08:09.000 We have this from the lever.

00:08:12.000 We must stop this civil war before it's unstoppable.

00:08:15.000 The Lever actually writing that it's already begun.

00:08:18.000 They're writing in the present tense that it's happening.

00:08:22.000 Here's uh Yahoo Finance.

00:08:24.000 Concerns grow that bot networks may be amplifying calls for civil war after Charlie Kirk killing.

00:08:30.000 And perhaps on social media, that is what we're seeing.

00:08:33.000 This post on X, it says open carry now, civil war has begun.

00:08:38.000 It has 5.8 million views and 8,400 retweets.

00:08:43.000 We have uh this post from Common Dreams.

00:08:47.000 This is a well-known activist organization that published the article saying is Trump inciting a Civil War 2.0 to steal the midterms.

00:08:58.000 And then we have this from NDTV, Civil War Echoes.

00:09:03.000 Sanjeev Sanyal warns U.S. resembles 18 uh April 1861.

00:09:09.000 I want to read a little bit from the Independent, and then we can have this conversation.

00:09:12.000 The reason why you know that we've talked about this quite a bit.

00:09:17.000 I, of course, have talked about it, and I will say it, and I and I I wish I was wrong, but I was not wrong.

00:09:24.000 And to all of the people who have continually denied what we have discussed on this show for the past several years, we have not been wrong.

00:09:33.000 We've been relatively vague, and that's fair because we're not making heavy predictions.

00:09:38.000 But I I I will remind you of this.

00:09:40.000 One of the one of the things that really irked me was in September of 2020, I stated on this show that were Trump to lose, these right wing people are going to rush the White House, they're gonna storm the White House, they are not going to just let this go idly by.

00:09:58.000 And that was just passive thought.

00:10:01.000 That was just, I can't I can't see these people letting Trump lose.

00:10:04.000 And what happened?

00:10:05.000 January 6th.

00:10:05.000 I said I said in November after like Trump, if Trump loses, this is what's gonna happen.

00:10:09.000 What did happen in January?

00:10:11.000 People stormed the Capitol.

00:10:13.000 Following this, people used my earlier accurate prediction on the left to claim I had foreknowledge of January 6th and should be criminally charged or investigated.

00:10:22.000 In fact, I was just reading the news and making a prediction.

00:10:25.000 And what did I say just last year?

00:10:28.000 In a in a debate on the Culture War show that Donald Trump would use the military in the ICE and immigration enforcement.

00:10:36.000 The left would not tolerate it.

00:10:38.000 There would be a battle between the governors and this and the and the federal government over control of the National Guard, and it will escalate.

00:10:45.000 And that is exactly where we are right now.

00:10:47.000 And every step of the way I said, I hope I'm wrong.

00:10:50.000 Maybe I'm crazy.

00:10:51.000 Maybe this right now is the point.

00:10:53.000 This story where people say, this is gone too far.

00:10:57.000 Left and right, Christian, Jew, Muslim, come together. 1.00

00:11:02.000 They say, guys, we we can't live this way, and they and they hug it out.

00:11:05.000 Maybe this is the point, but I don't believe it.

00:11:08.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:11:09.000 I'm gonna read this from Stephen Marsh, who says At the time of writing, the suspect in the shooting of Charlie Kirk is still at large, and his motivations are unknown.

00:11:18.000 But the identity of the killer and the reasons for killing hardly matter.

00:11:21.000 Whoever they are, and whatever their intention, the fallout is utterly predictable.

00:11:24.000 Divided America will divide further. 0.86

00:11:26.000 Political violence already surging will surge further.

00:11:29.000 America will continue further down the road to perition of the uh of the republic.

00:11:35.000 He says far more political figures have been murdered in American history than in the history of any other democracy.

00:11:41.000 More than a quarter of U.S. presidents have either survived an assassination attempt or died at the hands of a killer.

00:11:46.000 But in the past, each assassination of a president or a judge was treated as a collective national tragedy.

00:11:52.000 It was understood that the violence perpetrated by whomever was a disaster for the body politic as a whole.

00:11:58.000 Politics exists, after all, to save us from violence as a means of resolving disputes.

00:12:03.000 The sense of collective mourning no longer applies.

00:12:06.000 The reaction to Kirk's death instantaneously split American discourse.

00:12:11.000 Here was a 31-year-old man murdered in broad daylight in front of his wife and children before a crowd of thousands at Utah Valley University.

00:12:19.000 Americans could not agree that that was unacceptable.

00:12:22.000 I don't want to promote or identify people on social media who crowd about the death like their team had just won a football game, but on my feeds at least, it was not limited to a few cranks or extremists.

00:12:32.000 Quote, what about the children killed in Colorado?

00:12:35.000 was a perfectly common sentiment.

00:12:37.000 Anyone on the left who imagines the political assassination of their opponents is going to lead to more stability or a better America is seriously seriously diluted.

00:12:45.000 I will say this personally.

00:12:47.000 A high profile individual, a liberal that I've known for 10 years, posted a video on their Instagram saying Charlie Kirk got what he advocated for.

00:12:58.000 And I was shocked that they posted this.

00:13:01.000 Because I genuinely thought that there was still reason left in some of these people, but I can't say that I feel that way, and I don't know what's going to happen.

00:13:11.000 Now he goes on to add, journalists are now targets.

00:13:14.000 The political class and judges have been under extreme threat since Trump took office.

00:13:18.000 It's hard to even keep track of of it anymore.

00:13:21.000 The former House Speaker of Minnesota and her husband were murdered in June.

00:13:24.000 Amotov cocktail was thrown at the governor of Pennsylvania's house during Passover.

00:13:27.000 And U.S. judges who sit on Trump cases regular regularly received pizzas delivered to them as an intimidation tactic.

00:13:33.000 Targeting journalists is new.

00:13:36.000 Last month the New York Times editor Joseph Khan had his apartment graffiti in New York.

00:13:39.000 Kirk's assassination is the organic continuation of these trends.

00:13:43.000 But you know what was really scary?

00:13:44.000 Charlie Kirk is not a journalist.

00:13:47.000 He was a personality.

00:13:48.000 He was a civilian.

00:13:49.000 He was a man who expressed opinions.

00:13:52.000 He didn't write for a great news publication, purport to be a journalist.

00:13:55.000 He shared his thoughts on the goings-on of this country.

00:13:58.000 And this is what's terrifying.

00:14:01.000 Now, there's much more that he writes about, but I don't want to uh just keep, you know, ranting myself.

00:14:07.000 The point I think is clear, and you have seen it.

00:14:10.000 The comments on social media on the left.

00:14:13.000 There are tiers of this from the overt leftist calls for escalation, the publishing of videos from lesser-known personalities on TikTok, Instagram, and X saying you're one guy said you're next.

00:14:25.000 You're next, over and over again.

00:14:28.000 We know what the implication was that he was making.

00:14:31.000 Several are gloating, saying, Who's next?

00:14:33.000 There's lists that have been published, which include my name, saying, Here's who we want next.

00:14:38.000 They are people on Blue Sky X, Instagram, etc.

00:14:41.000 saying, here's the list of people they want to go after.

00:14:44.000 It is insanity.

00:14:46.000 And that is all across social media.

00:14:50.000 So with that being the sentiment, that's that's one tier.

00:14:54.000 The next tier are the people who are prominent liberals, high profile actors, high profile politicians, people like Ilhan Omar, for instance, who are coming out and saying, Yeah, well, maybe Charlie shouldn't have said hateful things.

00:15:10.000 So you have the tacit liberal, Charlie got what he deserved attitude, and then you have the overt leftist, we're coming for the rest of you.

00:15:19.000 I will give a shout out to the handful of prominent liberals who have condemned the violence.

00:15:23.000 Many of the high profile Democrats have, and I respect that.

00:15:26.000 And without naming them, because I don't want I don't seek to embarrass them.

00:15:29.000 Some of them, some of these young liberals crying on camera over Charlie's death, talking about how bad it is.

00:15:36.000 But with all of that being said, it's the sentiment we are seeing reeks of an untenable bifurcation in the body politic.

00:15:47.000 We have said it on this show many times.

00:15:50.000 Where is the off-ramp?

00:15:51.000 And unfortunately, and one of the most terrifying comments that I got was Charlie Kirk was the off-ramp.

00:15:58.000 He held debates.

00:16:01.000 And he succeeded at those debates.

00:16:04.000 And were his methods to have been permanently successful, the course of politics in this country was rooted in having a conversation.

00:16:14.000 Across Louisville, there are graphics that have been drawn up in less than a day of pictures of Charlie Kirk that say debate this with blood spraying from his neck.

00:16:25.000 I refuse to watch the videos of these people advocating for my death and the death of other people.

00:16:33.000 Because I know it will just make me angry, and I already factually understand these people exist.

00:16:41.000 I just fear that there is no backing down.

00:16:48.000 And the only thing I can say is every direction I look and have looked over the past several years, this goes in one direction.

00:16:57.000 But I'm curious now what y'all think.

00:17:00.000 Yeah, I mean, it certainly does feel like from the from the right wing's perspective that Arubicon was crossed.

00:17:05.000 I mean, John Doyle had a vi viral tweet yesterday where he said, You just killed the last person in America that wanted to change your mind.

00:17:11.000 And that's just the common sentiment you're seeing on the right, is we're saying this was the Olive Branch.

00:17:16.000 This was the off-ramp.

00:17:18.000 This was the pathway back to civil discourse.

00:17:20.000 And they chewed it up and shot the man who was pushing that.

00:17:24.000 So I I just want to, I think everyone understands this.

00:17:29.000 Charlie didn't think this was going to happen.

00:17:31.000 Right.

00:17:32.000 He's had conversations about the fears of threats to his safety.

00:17:35.000 But this was a man that so believed in the goodness of this country, despite the violence we had seen, that he was going out in public doing his events because of course none of us thought this was possible.

00:17:49.000 Yeah, well, I said this today on PCC.

00:17:51.000 Like one of the things that's really frustrating, um, at least to me personally, is in my mentions and stuff, replies on X because I've been tweeting up a storm about the whole situation, report like retweeting stuff.

00:18:04.000 There's a lot of people that say, Oh, because I made a remark yesterday about, you know, I want the feds to use their authority and actually treat these people as if they're inciting.

00:18:14.000 Um, and people are like, oh, well, you know, what happened to the First Amendment, what happened to the First Amendment?

00:18:19.000 The First Amendment was Charlie.

00:18:21.000 Yep.

00:18:21.000 Right.

00:18:21.000 Like Charlie was the guy that wanted to go and speak and and use persuasion.

00:18:28.000 Well, the left doesn't want that.

00:18:30.000 Clearly.

00:18:31.000 Like they don't want to hear other opinions.

00:18:33.000 So I'm not the first amendment guy.

00:18:35.000 I'm the guy that comes after him.

00:18:37.000 I want the feds to do something.

00:18:39.000 I want the government to.

00:18:41.000 And I don't care when people tell me, oh, if you let the feds do something, they're gonna then they're gonna do it to you when next they're already gonna.

00:18:48.000 Like if the Democrats get back into power, they're already going to throw people in jail.

00:18:53.000 They're already going to change the laws to punish conservatives. 0.98

00:18:57.000 Now I know there are people around the table that disagree with me, and that's fine.

00:19:00.000 But the fact of the matter is, the right and people on the right have been treated as second-class citizens for at least 10 years.

00:19:10.000 That you it has been where if you go out wearing a MAGA hat, you risk getting beat up for wearing for the wearing clothes.

00:19:18.000 This is this is this is something that has been the norm for people on the right, and I'm just tired of it.

00:19:23.000 So now that the right has the office of the presidency, has the Congress, has the Senate.

00:19:28.000 I want the government to go after the people that are attacking people over their politics.

00:19:34.000 This is terrorism.

00:19:35.000 The whole point of shooting Charlie was to shut the right up, make the right afraid to speak their mind.

00:19:42.000 It's terrorism.

00:19:44.000 It was done simple with a written message on the weapon they found, and it was done in the most public way possible.

00:19:52.000 Yep. 0.91

00:19:53.000 They've demonstrated that having critiques of abortion and gay marriage or transgenderism, the punishment for that is death.

00:20:02.000 There's a there's a segment of the country that has demonstrated that that is what that warrants.

00:20:06.000 I there's no going back.

00:20:08.000 There is uh how do you how do you possibly handle that?

00:20:11.000 I just think that if Charlie somehow were given any foresight that this was going to happen, he wouldn't have changed a thing.

00:20:19.000 And that's why I think that the solution isn't just more speech, although that that is gonna be the consequence.

00:20:28.000 Um and I'm glad that people are going to feel emboldened to speak out because of this.

00:20:33.000 The solution more importantly, is is a spiritual one.

00:20:38.000 And people are coming to realize that would have taken years, many more years for them to come to um in the span of just a day or two days.

00:20:51.000 Um and that one of them is is that we're living in the midst of very real spiritual warfare that's going on all around us and inside us that's mostly invisible, but yesterday it was visible.

00:21:06.000 The perhaps the most radicalizing thing I could imagine was the the killing of Charlie Kirk.

00:21:13.000 Was Trump the one that said it uh that he was a martyr, the perfect martyr?

00:21:18.000 I don't I don't know.

00:21:18.000 Did Trump say did Trump say that?

00:21:20.000 What is the job of a martyr?

00:21:21.000 What what does a martyr do?

00:21:23.000 I don't know.

00:21:24.000 Inspires people.

00:21:24.000 Yeah.

00:21:25.000 And so he becomes um a symbol.

00:21:29.000 Yeah.

00:21:31.000 Trump said he is uh he's a martyr for truth and freedom.

00:21:36.000 Um, I mean that remains to be seen because I mean, you're speaking of uh violence, uh begetting violence and the possibility of civil war erupting um or continuing, getting worse.

00:21:56.000 Um, maybe that's not what's gonna happen.

00:22:00.000 You know, watching the news today, seeing you know, the DNC had been evacu I think they evacuated over a bomb threat was deemed to be not credible.

00:22:09.000 Reports of shootings at universities.

00:22:13.000 That's what civil war looks like.

00:22:15.000 That's what's social collapse and governmental collapse or revolution, that that's what instability looks like.

00:22:21.000 People uh I I make this point quite a bit, but they think it's all movies.

00:22:26.000 They there are no fronts, you mean there's no no attacks.

00:22:32.000 Everybody there there, yeah, there will be some, but uh if you take a look at the Syrian Civil War, uh, I've I've worked with people who are who are on the ground that have showed me their work.

00:22:41.000 I've not I did not go on the ground.

00:22:43.000 Although we we we tried.

00:22:44.000 We we actually I actually tried getting a crew to go in.

00:22:47.000 Um that's a crazy story.

00:22:49.000 And so some of the people we worked with, in one instance, one of the uh circumstances, it's it was two guys with rifles hidden up in the back of a building in a standard market area, shooting people who walked by.

00:23:04.000 They were they were uh a rebel faction that were attacking people deemed to be loyalists or government actors, agents or otherwise.

00:23:13.000 So they're in an area that was controlled by the enemy, and it was just two guys.

00:23:17.000 And so you're walking down the street, you're going to the market, and then all of a sudden you hear bangs, you have no idea where they're coming from, and people are falling.

00:23:23.000 And when I turn on the TV, and every few minutes they're reporting some kind of conflict shooting, bombing, things like that.

00:23:32.000 I'm not saying that we're in civil war.

00:23:34.000 I'm saying that's what you can expect.

00:23:36.000 If we were to enter one, it will not be battle fronts marching towards each other.

00:23:42.000 They're not gonna say there's not going to be two groups that organize you know, Congress, you know, internal the people's republic and the liberal.

00:23:53.000 Skirmishes will happen.

00:23:55.000 But it's not going to be the North and the South.

00:23:57.000 That that's not what civil wars look like.

00:23:58.000 And Americans are plagued by our history into believing that's what a civil war is.

00:24:02.000 But every see the the issue was you had in the American Civil War sovereign states that were debating with each other, and those sovereign states had armies, and they could negotiate as power structures amongst each other.

00:24:15.000 The factions already existed.

00:24:17.000 In almost every single civil war ever, random factions emerge in various areas.

00:24:22.000 Partisans, it's not a unified front in any meaningful way.

00:24:25.000 That's like Syria, for instance, or Spain or Russia.

00:24:28.000 And so what we're likely to see now, after everything we've seen, and I'm going to stress this again, as I've said every time, the time travel test I call it, go back ten years and tell people where we are today.

00:24:44.000 Someone will have shot the president in the head, fortunately, by turning it, it would have only grazed his ear.

00:24:48.000 Another man will have gone to his golf club, uh, aiming a his golf course aiming a rifle, trying to kill him, that trial ongoing now, that there would have been the January 6th, the storming of the Capitol, the riots, the protests, the George Floyd riots, the firebombing of St. John's Church in the White House, the January 6th committee, the arrest of Donald Trump, the prosecution of Donald Trump, the accusations of insurrection and sedition, et cetera, the 21 years in prison for the Proud Boys.

00:25:15.000 If you went back 10 years, and every day, this story gets crazier.

00:25:21.000 If you went back 10 years and said, here's 10 years in the future, nobody would believe you.

00:25:26.000 And the funny thing about it is, the proof is in that six months ago, no one well, I shouldn't say nobody believed me, but six months ago, people thought, I hope you're wrong, Tim.

00:25:37.000 I don't there are people that told me I couldn't happen.

00:25:39.000 Two years ago, they said, ah, Tim's crazy, he's screaming civil war.

00:25:43.000 And today, many of the general predictions that I made have happened.

00:25:49.000 Up to one of the worst moments I could have possibly I couldn't possibly imagine that I didn't think was possible, but was implied in what we were discussing.

00:25:56.000 And what I fear next, because I can see these videos that people are posting about Charlie, I can see the images they're making of him.

00:26:05.000 The the the images that I am not going to share on this show, but are easily found on YouTube, where they are putting up these cartoon images of Charlie Kirk.

00:26:15.000 It says, debate this with blood spraying from his neck.

00:26:19.000 They are reveling, gloating, and these are not bots.

00:26:22.000 These are real people celebrating the murder of a man who was engaged in democracy as they claim to want.

00:26:31.000 And here's what I fear, and I would tell people, cooler heads must prevail.

00:26:37.000 Victory will come through the fact that Donald Trump was a friend of Charlie Kirk and is our president.

00:26:42.000 Many members of Congress were friends with Charlie Kirk and are in control, though it's slim.

00:26:48.000 And there are there are many prominent liberals who are terrified of what it means to be on the wrong side of this.

00:26:54.000 Some of them crying on their shows today.

00:26:57.000 With that being said, my fear is that there are many people who are inspired by Charlie Kirk who feel like they have nothing to lose because they are young men with no jobs, no wives, no girlfriends, no prospects, and they watched Charlie's content.

00:27:11.000 He had millions of followers, they went to his events.

00:27:15.000 And what will that person who looked up to Charlie feel when they see some guy with 15 million views on X, posting that he's happy, posting that he would have done it himself, given the opportunity, and posted that he will do it again.

00:27:33.000 There are people that are making videos saying there's more to come, and they're posting lists of names.

00:27:38.000 My fear is that there's way too many people, as Rudyard Lynch has pointed out, that are young, listless men that feel they have no purpose who have just been pointed in a dangerous direction.

00:27:50.000 I mean, that's that's that's the thing is we know what could come next.

00:27:54.000 I mean, we don't know the specifics, but we know there's gonna be a lot of bloodshed potentially, and that's the horrifying thing, and that's why it's so frustrating seeing so many, especially Republicans like tone police thrown inside and say, guys, no, we need peace and unity right now.

00:28:07.000 And it's like they they just shot Charlie Kirk.

00:28:10.000 We want, like Phil is saying, we want the feds to break this to nip this in the bud because we know the future we're heading down, we know what road we're heading down, and there's no peace and unity of people that want to kill you for having vaguely conservative takes.

00:28:22.000 That is an important point.

00:28:24.000 What I am calling for is the federal government to do what it is there to do.

00:28:31.000 Find the terrorists that will do this to other conservatives and put them in jail.

00:28:37.000 And my saying I I don't I'm not so much worried about right wing men, uh, listless young men who might have looked up to Charlie Kirk being radicalized into considering violence from this.

00:28:52.000 I think it's actually something that's just going to embolden people on the left to commit more acts of violence, and still, even now the people who are being tone policed by their own side are still only calling for justice through the proper channels because they're good people, because they have scruples and they have morals.

00:29:16.000 Because TOS violations, Mary.

00:29:19.000 Which which TOS violation.

00:29:21.000 Well, we can't say we're limited to what we can or cannot say here.

00:29:24.000 And also it's irresponsible to call for things that are illegal.

00:29:28.000 So even beyond I don't I don't want to be, I don't want to I don't want to.

00:29:30.000 It's not the only reason why you're not gonna be the guy that's a federal government to do that.

00:29:34.000 I don't want to be the guy that's responsible for being like, oh, go take things in for your own in.

00:29:37.000 Like I'm not gonna.

00:29:39.000 So well genuinely.

00:29:41.000 Okay, well, I think Kirk You know.

00:29:44.000 I don't have much faith in the FBI personally.

00:29:47.000 So I mean, them taking the reins.

00:29:50.000 Uh, we saw some bad side of them uh in the last few years.

00:29:56.000 Things got out of hand, you know.

00:29:58.000 It I don't know what to say, I don't know who to say would be better, but uh, I just don't know if that's the way.

00:30:05.000 I don't think there's any other way out besides the federal intervention, quite frankly.

00:30:09.000 The federal government must, but the outcome to that equation is kindergarten arithmetic.

00:30:18.000 The only solution that we have before us is law enforcement.

00:30:22.000 But when you are in a country that has a bifurcated culture where, as Stephen Marsh put it, they can't even agree on a 31-year-old man murdered in cold blood in broad daylight in front of his family, when Donald Trump says we cannot live like this, and we will have law enforcement against domestic terrorism, each and every one of you know what their response is going to be.

00:30:49.000 I don't need to say it.

00:30:51.000 Right.

00:30:52.000 Who wants to say what they're gonna respond with?

00:30:54.000 Up they're gonna up the ante even more.

00:30:56.000 They're gonna say this is exactly what we predicted. 0.99

00:30:58.000 Trump is a tyrant, and this is how fascism begins. 0.99

00:31:00.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:31:00.000 They're gonna say, and this is how democracy dies to thunderous applause, and they're gonna call themselves the heroes, and they're gonna call themselves the Jedi. 0.99

00:31:09.000 Whatever fictional Harry Potter reference they can make, they'll make.

00:31:13.000 And then they will go to scared, old people who watch CNN, as CNN, let me show you this. 0.96

00:31:23.000 When CNN covered the story about the transgender and antifa ideology on the weapons, they omitted that information and called it cultural issues.

00:31:33.000 Yeah.

00:31:34.000 Then Seth Moulton went on CNN and said 74% or some number cut of violence comes from the right and only four from the left, which is a fake made-up statistic.

00:31:45.000 And the CNN viewers are sitting there saying, yes, this was a one random thing, but the right's really the problem.

00:31:51.000 When Donald Trump responds by saying we will not tolerate seditious violence, murder, assassinations, the CNN viewer is primed for the progressive to go to them and say, see, we warned you.

00:32:07.000 And that's what we predicted last year.

00:32:10.000 I don't see any other path forward for Trump.

00:32:14.000 Because what we're saying is use law enforcement as legally empowered to do.

00:32:19.000 Arrest people who break the law.

00:32:21.000 But that is always seen by these people as fascism or some some slight against them.

00:32:29.000 Let me pull this up real quick.

00:32:32.000 We have this on uh Google.

00:32:35.000 Yesterday, uh, I should say throughout the month, civil war had a moderate search volume.

00:32:41.000 If I can zoom it a little bit more.

00:32:43.000 And of course, it now has maximum search volume.

00:32:47.000 So this is a relative search uh number, 100 means it can't be higher.

00:32:52.000 That relative to where civil war was searched for before, this is maximum search load.

00:32:58.000 It was around 50 on average, it's from zero to 100.

00:33:02.000 Yesterday was 73.

00:33:04.000 It is now at 100.

00:33:07.000 Media is writing about it, claiming Donald Trump is pushing it to win the midterms, as we showed you uh with that common dreams article.

00:33:14.000 Mother Jones is claiming Jan Sixers are preparing for civil war.

00:33:19.000 Stephen Marsh, who wrote the book, The Next Civil War, is published in the independence saying this is exactly what we've warned you about, and we've never been closer.

00:33:28.000 There are a lot of people, prominent personalities that are going to say, stop, no, and don't talk about it.

00:33:36.000 The unfortunate reality is, as Google proves here, everyone is talking about it.

00:33:42.000 Whether anyone wants to admit it, the conversation has been happening across social media.

00:33:46.000 Though the yesterday, I think the most common word saw on YouTube was the word war.

00:33:50.000 And I saw people getting pissed off, conservatives saying, stop saying that.

00:33:54.000 You can't tell people to comment.

00:33:55.000 I looked at the comments of some of these progressive YouTubers.

00:33:58.000 War war war war war war what were just every every other word.

00:34:13.000 I mean, this is the craziest I've ever seen it.

00:34:17.000 Yeah, I mean, to your point, like I don't think that anyone here is would disagree with your estimation of what the left will do in response.

00:34:29.000 Right.

00:34:30.000 I just don't think that there's a whole lot of choice.

00:34:33.000 I agree.

00:34:33.000 You know that this is this is the dominoes falling over.

00:34:37.000 Yeah.

00:34:38.000 Trump must use the law enforcement that he had, that law enforcement powers he has.

00:34:42.000 The federal government, the DOJ, Cash, Dan, Pam Bondi, uh, Christy No, DHS, they must use their legally authorized authorities to stop violent crime like this.

00:34:55.000 The left is happy that it happened.

00:34:57.000 They've they've they've lionized Luigi Mangione.

00:35:00.000 On primetime television, they lionized him.

00:35:03.000 They cheered for him.

00:35:04.000 They clapped for the terror attacks on the Tesla dealerships.

00:35:07.000 They do not exist in the same government that we do.

00:35:12.000 That is an observation.

00:35:15.000 When Trump wins, they say he stole it.

00:35:18.000 He's illegitimate.

00:35:20.000 Trump is president now.

00:35:22.000 Immigration was a principal issue.

00:35:24.000 Many people are upset over the mass illegal immigration.

00:35:27.000 So Trump says we will enforce the law.

00:35:30.000 Trump has used only the law as is granted to him, and every step of the way they've claimed what he's doing is illegal.

00:35:37.000 They have lied about everything, from who is responsible for political violence to defending an adjudicated MS-13 gang member accused of beating his wife and charged with human smuggling.

00:35:49.000 They have called him but a Maryland father. 0.75

00:35:52.000 So when Trump says I have to deport the narco gang member, they go On CNN on MSNBC and in these activist circles, and they look at the ignorant masses and say Trump just arrested an innocent Maryland father and is sending him to a supermax prison to be tortured. 0.80

00:36:13.000 So you know what the response is going to be. 0.85

00:36:15.000 We all do.

00:36:17.000 And it's the left is going to respond with escalation.

00:36:20.000 Now, what where does that go?

00:36:21.000 If we if we follow this equation to its natural conclusion, we start entering into more variables as we make predictions moving forward.

00:36:28.000 It seems likely the only reaction that we're going to see for a variety of reasons will be federal law enforcement.

00:36:34.000 One, because it is the standard response.

00:36:39.000 But there's several things to factor in.

00:36:41.000 Dan Bangino and Charlie Kirk were good friends.

00:36:44.000 Cash Patel and Charlie Kirk were good friends.

00:36:46.000 And Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk were good friends.

00:36:49.000 And so the the the at the top of law enforcement, these people, there's they want something more than just the law and justice.

00:36:58.000 They will follow that through.

00:36:59.000 The left, I believe it's fairly obvious what they will do.

00:37:02.000 They are already engaging in and have been for a while.

00:37:06.000 I mean, with the fire bombing and the attack on the White House.

00:37:08.000 That's back in 2020.

00:37:10.000 From there, there are many variables and it becomes difficult to predict.

00:37:14.000 Will Donald Trump win?

00:37:16.000 Will he lose?

00:37:18.000 Will we win?

00:37:19.000 Will we lose?

00:37:19.000 What is winning look like?

00:37:20.000 I have no idea.

00:37:22.000 It's entirely possible that this moment, there is a strong probability tomorrow, the left is completely banned, shunned, and ostracized because we are seeing prominent progressives, some speak out against this, but we are seeing prominent Democrat leaders condemn this.

00:37:40.000 There was booing in Congress over prayer for Charlie Kirk, so it's it's hard to know for sure.

00:37:45.000 There is a strong possibility that this event is so shocking that even Democrats just say, leave me out of this and tell the left, you're on your own, and then big tech cracks down and purges these people and they are shunned and ostracized.

00:38:00.000 However, what I will add is in Stephen Marsh, Stephen Marsh's article for the Independent, he points out that as he was writing his book, The Next Civil War, January 6th happened, and he got a call from a friend who said, sorry about your book.

00:38:18.000 It's over.

00:38:19.000 This event is so shocking.

00:38:21.000 The American people are going to step back from the edge of the cliff and say, we cannot go this far.

00:38:26.000 And boy, was he wrong.

00:38:28.000 From that, Stephen Marsh says he fears that the only thing that's going to happen is this escalation.

00:38:36.000 The way there's a company right now, and I'm not going to show these photos.

00:38:40.000 They're selling t-shirts.

00:38:42.000 Cartoon images of Charlie Kirk dying and bleeding to death.

00:38:46.000 They're selling t-shirts.

00:38:49.000 That's terrifying.

00:38:50.000 Yeah.

00:38:51.000 Well, I mean, and it's exactly what you're talking about.

00:38:53.000 I mean, the risk of leftist violence, it's it's here.

00:38:56.000 It's it's manifested itself.

00:38:57.000 It's gone kinetic, and it's going to ramp up more and more.

00:38:59.000 And that's why the Trump admin can't half bake this.

00:39:02.000 That's why they can't, they can't run the risk of leaving any power left on the table.

00:39:06.000 It has to be a complete crackdown, total crackdown.

00:39:09.000 You need to break this and end this forever.

00:39:10.000 Rip it out, root and stem, ostracize.

00:39:13.000 Enough. 0.95

00:39:14.000 They've demonstrated they're a death cult.

00:39:15.000 They've demonstrated that they took and they took enjoyment in watching what happened to Charlie Kirk.

00:39:20.000 Enough.

00:39:20.000 We we can't we can't live like this.

00:39:22.000 We can't share society with this.

00:39:23.000 This is unacceptable.

00:39:24.000 So just a quick update.

00:39:26.000 Uh Cash Patel and uh Dan Bongino are on the ground in Utah.

00:39:30.000 There will be a press conference within the hour.

00:39:32.000 We will have that ready to go when it does drop.

00:39:36.000 So uh we'll be monitoring the situation, and when that press conference goes live, it will be up and we will watch that.

00:39:42.000 But uh yeah.

00:39:45.000 Um anyway, sorry, you were saying that.

00:39:47.000 No, yeah, well, I was just saying they can't half bake this.

00:39:50.000 They have to come down as hard as humanly possible because you can't, like I was saying earlier, you can't leave any power on the table.

00:39:55.000 You can't let you can't leave them a weapon to grab because they've demonstrated now they're willing to go there, they're willing to take out Charlie Kirk.

00:40:02.000 And like I said, Charlie Kirk's politics represent probably a majority of Americans because it's very sensible conservative politics.

00:40:09.000 They and they say they say the penalty for holding those beliefs is death.

00:40:12.000 So no, we they can't have big and save the coming hard and end this forever.

00:40:15.000 You know, the Yankees had that uh moment of silence, I think it was a moment of silence for Charlie.

00:40:20.000 Yeah.

00:40:20.000 Amazing.

00:40:21.000 Uh I saw that in Vegas, at least one marquee putting up a memorial for Charlie.

00:40:26.000 The New York Times on on their on their header bar of their site had a small memorial for for Charlie Kirk.

00:40:33.000 I am hoping that this was so genuinely shocking that many of the mainstream institutions step back and say, leave me out of this.

00:40:43.000 Without naming some of these liberals, I don't know if you guys saw the uh the videos of them crying, bawling their eyes out.

00:40:51.000 And we had we were talking about it, and uh, I think it was Kellen who was saying, I think maybe they realized just what they've been advocating for or or directing, and maybe they're realizing this is not a game anymore.

00:41:04.000 You know, Hassan apparently was was very cognizant of the fact it was reported by the New York Times that he was telling his fans to stop cheering for this because he's next.

00:41:14.000 He is the he is the target on the left.

00:41:16.000 Charlie is the target on the right, and he does not want that.

00:41:20.000 And at the same time, he was still spreading this rhetoric about how point scoring off of it.

00:41:27.000 Yep.

00:41:28.000 You know, saying that he essentially brought this on himself.

00:41:31.000 So uh and attacking the right for it and saying that.

00:41:36.000 Well, I don't think they're horrified.

00:41:37.000 He hasn't learned anything.

00:41:38.000 It's an addiction. 1.00

00:41:40.000 Well, he is among the dumbest on the left. 1.00

00:41:42.000 Yeah and the biggest. 1.00

00:41:43.000 Right.

00:41:44.000 But it but it is an addiction.

00:41:46.000 These people cannot stop themselves.

00:41:49.000 Well, and I think I don't think they were horrified.

00:41:51.000 I mean, they're horrified and shocked, obviously, but they're horrified because they realized what they've been ratcheting up, what pressure they've been ratcheting up could happen to them.

00:41:57.000 It was a self-interested.

00:41:59.000 Right.

00:41:59.000 They were saying, Oh gosh, that's on the table.

00:42:01.000 I didn't know.

00:42:02.000 Yeah.

00:42:02.000 They weren't, they weren't from empathy.

00:42:04.000 This was from them.

00:42:06.000 Self-preservation.

00:42:07.000 Yeah.

00:42:08.000 Precisely.

00:42:09.000 And it won't happen to them because political violence is left wing coded and rebellion is right wing coded.

00:42:14.000 That's why when you sit with me and Tim were sitting here like, when was the last right wing riot?

00:42:18.000 You could say J6, but you have to go back to like the civil war because that's how that's how the right wing expressed.

00:42:22.000 Was it Brooks Brothers or Brooks Brothers, right?

00:42:24.000 Yeah, but which is like, come on.

00:42:26.000 But it's classy, he's got a suit on and a tie on that's right-wing coded.

00:42:29.000 But um, yeah, you got to go back to like the civil war.

00:42:31.000 We we we express ourselves in revolutions, and Charlie Kirk was a revolutionary.

00:42:34.000 He he he took the mainstream and pulled it in the direction that he wanted to.

00:42:38.000 The left wing, all they all they can express themselves through is violence.

00:42:41.000 That's all they can do.

00:42:42.000 That's part one of the reasons for that, I think, is because the left does look at violence as a dial.

00:42:48.000 Right.

00:42:49.000 And the right looks at violence like a switch.

00:42:51.000 The the right says, No, we don't do that.

00:42:55.000 We don't engage in those things.

00:42:56.000 We don't do this kind of stuff.

00:42:58.000 That's not proper.

00:42:59.000 And it's the same reason that the GOP and Republicans have been getting, you know, crapped on by the by Zoomers because they're the do-nothing Republicans. 0.97

00:43:10.000 They don't, you know, they won't ever stand up, blah, blah, blah.

00:43:12.000 Because it's, you know, the reason why um Roe vs.

00:43:16.000 Wade took so long to overturn is because the Republicans went about it the right way.

00:43:21.000 They got enough presidents to put enough votes on the court and then got the got the uh got Roe brought back in front of the court. 0.64

00:43:31.000 They went about it the right way.

00:43:33.000 Democrats just try to go around the law because it's a dial, it's it's an access to power. 0.66

00:43:38.000 Republicans went, or conservatives, people with the with the Republican impulses.

00:43:43.000 When it's time for for violence, it's massive violence.

00:43:48.000 It's total war. 0.99

00:43:49.000 It's annihilate the enemy, it's destroy them. 0.99

00:43:52.000 It's leave no survivors, win at all costs, and destroy them.

00:43:57.000 But it takes so long for the right to get there because it seems like the right actually has a real honest, in touch understanding of the horror of that perspective.

00:44:09.000 Whereas the left is like, well, I'm gonna go beat this person up, and if I can get them to do what I want now, well then it then it's fine.

00:44:16.000 It's just as simple as people on the right believe in the dignity of the human person.

00:44:20.000 True, yes.

00:44:21.000 And when they're given the opportunity to point score, which they were given uh with the death of Irina Zarutska, and also that poor little girl in in Scotland who was being harassed by a migrant, they had the opportunity to politically point score about it and say, Well, they voted for it. 0.94

00:44:40.000 And I'm not saying that no one said that, but certainly I saw no prominent right wing voices repeating that.

00:44:47.000 Right.

00:44:47.000 Um even when they had the opportunity, because they still believe in the sanctity of human life.

00:44:53.000 I want to jump to the story from the Daily Mail.

00:44:55.000 Powerful moment, J. D. Vance carries Charlie Kirk's coffin as mourning wife and family Join him on Final Journey.

00:45:03.000 Uh everybody loved this guy.

00:45:08.000 And it is amazing the response from so many people who had been assisted and cared for and inspired by Charlie Kirk.

00:45:18.000 Even the vice president came to carry his casket.

00:45:22.000 We have this video from Nick Sorter.

00:45:24.000 Charlie's casket now on the move through Arizona being escorted by a large motor kid.

00:45:28.000 He is receiving the presidential level send-off he deserves.

00:45:31.000 Donald Trump has stated he will be posthumously rewarding him the presidential medal of freedom, which he he absolutely deserves.

00:45:40.000 And so uh it's just incredible to see the uh the respect and uh just the I guess the the honor and the dignity and the response that we're getting from the US government for for Charlie.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, I mean it says a lot.

00:45:59.000 It says a lot when the uh the vice president is the guy that's like, no, we're gonna take him home.

00:46:06.000 Right.

00:46:06.000 You know.

00:46:07.000 Is that that's not Steven Miller, I don't think, no.

00:46:11.000 And it just shows it shows what a lion and and Titan Kirk was.

00:46:15.000 Because I mean he wasn't just a comment, like he'd built turning point from the ground up and he had single-handedly occupied and reinvented the mainstream.

00:46:24.000 I mean, there's no question about it.

00:46:26.000 He he's a paradigm changer.

00:46:28.000 And I mean, just institutional.

00:46:30.000 This is what I've been telling people is like no one else, no one else was willing to show up to Utah Valley University on a Wednesday afternoon.

00:46:37.000 That's just so that's just how he is.

00:46:39.000 That's just how he operates because he genuinely views America's youth as underserved, undertapped, and he wants to be the guy that matriculates bright young right wing conservative Christians, people, and he wants to, you know, turn them into viable future leaders and and assets for the movement.

00:46:54.000 And there's just such a massive void now that's left in this movement that cannot cannot be replaced.

00:47:00.000 It just it straight up cannot be replaced.

00:47:01.000 There are a lot of posts on X from uh young Gen Z guys who say that their lives were turned around by turned around by Charlie.

00:47:09.000 Uh stories of being kind of just listless, perhaps, not knowing what they were their purpose was, not knowing where they were going in life, and they went to these turning point events and it lit a fire within them, and they started working towards goals and bettering themselves and improving themselves, and that and that was it.

00:47:26.000 And what I find truly remarkable is over the past ten years, any figure that emerges that inspires young men is attacked mercilessly by the narrative machine.

00:47:37.000 Jordan Peterson being one of the first, where they called him a Nazi and alt-right, and it's the weirdest thing because that dude's fairly liberal in a lot of ways.

00:47:47.000 You know, he was so center, just I mean, he's he's he's a Canadian.

00:47:54.000 You can't even be far right and be Canadian. 0.99

00:47:57.000 You know, he was a moderate center guy that just said, I'm not gonna listen, I'm not gonna just bow down to you telling me that I have to use words that you're demanding.

00:48:08.000 That was it.

00:48:08.000 That was all he was saying.

00:48:10.000 You are not going to select the words that I use.

00:48:14.000 You will not, I will not bend the knee to that.

00:48:16.000 That was it, and that made him a Nazi. 0.99

00:48:18.000 Insane, totally insane to say you won't use the words that we demand you use, so you're a Nazi. 0.94

00:48:26.000 And it was the fervor that he inspired in young men that terrified him, terrified them more than just his own ideas.

00:48:32.000 But that came after they're so afraid of the potential that exists in young men that they have not only physical power, but the the ability to be so singularly focused and willing to take risks and willing to self-sacrifice.

00:48:52.000 That's another thing that Charlie Kirk deserves so much credit for.

00:48:56.000 And another thing that's remarkable about him, which shouldn't be remarkable in politics, but it is, is that he's just uncomplicated.

00:49:04.000 Yeah.

00:49:05.000 And he he he did have that singular focus, and he wasn't distracted with drinking or partying or lying or scamming anyone.

00:49:19.000 He was just good, just uncomplicated good.

00:49:23.000 And you meet so few people like that in general, but especially in politics.

00:49:27.000 That's what everyone who knew him well is saying.

00:49:30.000 I I've I I think it's fair to say the left knows they have to destroy men.

00:49:35.000 Yeah.

00:49:35.000 And so these figures that rise up to give voice to young men and give them direction and purpose that strengthens a nation.

00:49:43.000 There's a lot we've discussed with Charlie Kirk's efforts politically, but I think that is one that has a huge impact.

00:49:49.000 A lot of a lot of these young men veering rightward.

00:49:53.000 It's not just about them voting for Trump.

00:49:55.000 It's about them returning to church.

00:49:57.000 Yes.

00:49:57.000 Getting jobs.

00:49:58.000 Yes.

00:49:59.000 There was a really there was a real interesting trend.

00:50:02.000 I covered one of these uh stories. 0.80

00:50:03.000 A woman posted that she has a guy friend who started getting red pilled, she called it, and all of a sudden he didn't want to uh he was not feminist anymore, he wasn't gonna go along with her ideas, and she said, quote, he is cock blocking himself.

00:50:21.000 Now, what does that translate to? 0.95

00:50:24.000 A young man told a woman that he worked with he wasn't going to blindly agree with her so that she would give him sex, that he cared more about truth than getting laid, and what she revealed was she used manipulative tactics and sex to get what she wanted from this man.

00:50:40.000 It's a re it's an insane revelation that he was turned around by researching, learning, and changing his life, and outside of just these young men are voting for Trump, it's these young men are waking up.

00:50:54.000 Yep.

00:50:55.000 I mean, that that's why he was such a threat, is because Charlie Kirk, it's a young men just reminded.

00:51:01.000 It wasn't even creating something grandiose, this grand story.

00:51:03.000 It was just he reminded you of who you are inside and who you are as a young man and as a young patriot.

00:51:09.000 Yeah, and what your role is.

00:51:10.000 And that that's absolutely pet absolutely petrified to left the Matt Walsh put it perfectly today, where he said there's not a bigger compliment for your career than the fact that leftists are in jubilation over your death, because that means that you were a genuine threat and that they're celebrating that he's leaving the ring.

00:51:25.000 And it's so poignant, it's so true.

00:51:27.000 Charlie Kirk was like our quarterback for the movement.

00:51:30.000 He really was.

00:51:31.000 And without him, who knows where we be.

00:51:33.000 The press conference is set for 9 30 p.m.

00:51:38.000 I had uh a crazy moment today, which is just I can't believe it.

00:51:44.000 Because I was just hanging out with my wife and my daughter, and we were just going over basic family stuff, and we were having a conversation that was just like I don't want to be too in detail because of security reasons, but it was basic stuff, like we're gonna go to the post office.

00:52:02.000 And my wife looked at me and said, They just killed Charlie.

00:52:08.000 And I was just it's like it's impossible for me to believe it.

00:52:12.000 It's weird.

00:52:13.000 It's horrifying and still hard to believe.

00:52:15.000 Like when I pulled up this image, this this video from Nick Sorter, and they there's a hearse driving in a vehicle, and I'm like, how is this?

00:52:22.000 I my brain is just my my emotional centers are saying Charlie is not dead.

00:52:31.000 And I'm I I I cannot exist in a world where I'm watching a video where a car is driving the corpse of Charlie Kirk.

00:52:38.000 It doesn't know.

00:52:42.000 It's just it I I can't I can't even, I can't even.

00:52:47.000 It is a it is a horrifying, it is a nightmare.

00:52:51.000 I can't believe I'm looking at this right now.

00:52:54.000 Just doesn't feel real.

00:52:57.000 Yeah.

00:52:59.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:53:03.000 I it's gonna take a while for it to go real.

00:53:07.000 I mean Yeah.

00:53:08.000 And and and look, behind the scenes, we're going over like our production schedules and everything, and I'm like, I have no idea.

00:53:14.000 Nothing.

00:53:14.000 I I you know, I turn the news on, and every 15 minutes it's you know, updates on the Charlie Kirk assassination, and then uh they'll talk about Poland or these other stories, and it's just instant dial tone.

00:53:29.000 There's just there's just nothing there when they are talking about, you know, oh, Trump's response over Poland and uh even the story in Annapolis, yeah, it just doesn't register.

00:53:42.000 It there's there's no story I could see anywhere.

00:53:45.000 I just exit out, close it out, nothing none of it, none of it, it's not real.

00:53:48.000 This is the only thing that I that we're we're thinking about, and we're you know, hopefully by next week we'll just be, you know, I guess grieved, chilled a bit, and then we can figure out how things are are are moving forward.

00:54:05.000 Right now, I mean, I'm talking to friends and it's a scramble.

00:54:09.000 Uh it it's every plan disrupted.

00:54:14.000 Yeah.

00:54:15.000 Every Every schedule, every meeting erased in an instant.

00:54:21.000 Yeah.

00:54:21.000 I mean, it's the amazing thing, like talking to a lot of my friends in the space that are that are active politically, and everyone he talked to who none of them have any tie-ins together, and Kirk had an iron in the fire with every single one of them.

00:54:33.000 That's why he was just always working, always just project after project after project.

00:54:38.000 So it's like even beyond turning point.

00:54:40.000 I'm talking to guys that probably don't even have any idea of who each other are.

00:54:43.000 Yeah.

00:54:43.000 Kirk had an iron in the fire with them.

00:54:45.000 It's it's it's actually kind of weird.

00:54:47.000 Yeah.

00:54:47.000 That you know, some of the conversations I've had.

00:54:49.000 Yeah.

00:54:50.000 And they're like, oh, did you know I was talking to Charlie, but I'm like, you were?

00:54:53.000 I was like, how is it that literally everybody I know had been working with Charlie in some capacity?

00:54:57.000 That's that dude.

00:54:59.000 Wow.

00:54:59.000 He's gonna save this country with brute force.

00:55:02.000 Sheer willpower.

00:55:03.000 Sean Spicer was talking today on uh on one of the shows that he's on, and he was saying that he was looking back through some of his texts with Charlie, and every single time he asked Charlie for anything, Charlie said yes.

00:55:15.000 Would you come to my show?

00:55:16.000 Will you help me do this?

00:55:17.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:55:18.000 Every single time.

00:55:20.000 Yeah.

00:55:20.000 Charlie said yes.

00:55:21.000 Yeah.

00:55:22.000 And it, and and that that's what I was explaining the other day.

00:55:25.000 That the things that Charlie did to help out, us here at Tim Cast and our crew and turning point USA, it was always yes.

00:55:35.000 And and that's how I was saying, I was like, Re really?

00:55:38.000 Like, he asked me for nothing in return.

00:55:41.000 And I remember uh, you know, this past year at Turning Point, they tell me, like, we're gonna we're gonna bring up to the stage, stand right here, we'll give you your cue, then you'll walk out.

00:55:52.000 And I just walk out, I don't know what's going on.

00:55:54.000 And then I saw the video later of like they made this montage of me playing on all these screens everywhere, and I'm like, I can't believe how much they I was like, wow.

00:56:05.000 I didn't realize how much work and effort they were putting into having me there.

00:56:10.000 It's it's more than that.

00:56:12.000 It's uh that I was explaining the other day that when uh I had talked to Charlie and the TPSA team about us going out and joining them on stage.

00:56:20.000 It was very much a we can't because we do the show every day, and there's no time to travel unless we flew on the weekend, and if we fly on the weekend, and then how do we do the show Monday, Tuesday?

00:56:30.000 You know, it's it doesn't seem possible.

00:56:31.000 And they said, uh, we'll take care of it.

00:56:33.000 We'll take care of your team, we'll take care of you, and we'll build you a studio.

00:56:37.000 And I was like, Incredible.

00:56:39.000 Uh, okay.

00:56:40.000 And then they did, and they did it for three years.

00:56:42.000 Not to be fair, last year we didn't need it.

00:56:44.000 We flew out.

00:56:46.000 Um, I think what what you you you uh you hosted one of the shows is that what happened?

00:56:50.000 It's been it's when we were out in in Yeah, like I left in the morning, I think, and then you did you it was Friday.

00:56:57.000 Yeah, yeah, I host one of the shows, and then I flew out the next day so that way I could be there because Right, right, right.

00:57:02.000 So we didn't need the studio this year.

00:57:04.000 But uh getting to be on stage, one of the one of the greatest memories of my life is each and every uh show that we did the past three years with Turning Point.

00:57:13.000 Um, but most uh notably not last year, but the year before with Tucker Carlson and uh uh Charlie both uh honoring me coming on my show, and I get to I get to hang out with these two Titans was absolutely incredible.

00:57:26.000 And it was through Charlie's goodwill and great effort to get me and our team there to make that happen and asking us for nothing in return.

00:57:37.000 Which was just the crazy it's one of the craziest things.

00:57:40.000 There's so many people that always want something from you, you know.

00:57:43.000 This guy was not one of them.

00:57:44.000 No, he he apparently was just giving everybody stuff, helping them out, helping them be better versions of themselves, helping them uh succeed in their endeavors, and running a business and starting a family, you know, and having a seemingly happy married, married life, you know, like and not doing cocaine to do all of it.

00:58:06.000 For real.

00:58:07.000 Let's uh let's jump to the story with this from the Ross story.

00:58:10.000 MAGA host subpoenaed by ATF after revealing Charlie Kirk investigation details.

00:58:16.000 This is Steven Crowder.

00:58:18.000 He says he was subpoenaed by the ATF after he revealed alleged details about an investigation into the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

00:58:23.000 In a Thursday morning post on X, Crowder claimed to have received an email from an officer at the ATF.

00:58:28.000 The message included what he said were details about a weapon and cartridges located by an ATF and other law enforcement near the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting at Utah Valley State University.

00:58:38.000 All cartridges have engraved warning on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.

00:58:43.000 The New York Times later suggested that law enforcement officials had walked back this claim.

00:58:46.000 A senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation cautioned that the report had not been verified by ATF analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence and might turn out to have been misread or misinterpreted.

00:58:57.000 On Thursday afternoon, Crowder revealed that his company had been subpoenaed.

00:59:01.000 I will also stress the Wall Street Journal corroborated this with an individual uh involved in the investigation.

00:59:08.000 That being said, as I I stated earlier, I stated in the morning, this is preliminary.

00:59:14.000 The statements on uh transgender um ideology, take it with a grain of salt, but Crowder's reporting is is like is is very, very likely accurate, very credible.

00:59:24.000 He's reported on uh leaked information from law enforcement before this turned out to be accurate and correct.

00:59:29.000 However, as much as Crowder verified the identity uh and the authenticity of the documents, it doesn't mean that the internal document itself written by the feds is true and correct.

00:59:42.000 However, I think based on uh, you know, Wall Street Journal, and and there's been others that have corroborated this, and not just through this post, but they said through people involved in the investigation investigation, I think that's likely the case.

00:59:55.000 My concern is with these New York Times saying it's being walked back, is that they're not actually walking it back.

01:00:02.000 They're just saying it may have been misinterpreted.

01:00:04.000 Okay, so it may not have been misinterpreted.

01:00:06.000 So when we have multiple sources saying this is what it expressed, maybe you're wrong.

01:00:12.000 I don't know.

01:00:12.000 Maybe they misinterpreted it.

01:00:14.000 Okay, well, maybe not.

01:00:16.000 Maybe that's what it said, and this is what we're dealing with.

01:00:18.000 Crater was the first one to publish the Audrey Hale journal.

01:00:23.000 That's right.

01:00:24.000 And uh I I would also add, based on the internet sleuthing of 4chan, it corroborates this report as well.

01:00:32.000 So again, it is also it's very early and subject to change we don't know entirely.

01:00:36.000 But I believe that uh 4chan had begun aggregating information pertaining to the shooter evidence and things linking, uh, various posts online that linked to a a single individual.

01:00:49.000 And I believe they've uh uh found an individual who made a post predicting the death of Charlie Kirk at this age.

01:00:59.000 Take it with a grain of salt.

01:01:00.000 Was it a they made a track on their sound cloud, actually?

01:01:03.000 They released like a track with the title of that, yeah.

01:01:06.000 Right.

01:01:07.000 And so uh this individual, I believe, was also transgender and lived in the area.

01:01:13.000 So they then published a name and lined up the images that they found of this person with the images released by the FBI of their person of interest.

01:01:24.000 And so that's what they're going on right now.

01:01:26.000 Sometimes the internet gets things wrong.

01:01:27.000 To be honest, 4chan actually has a really good track record.

01:01:31.000 Weaponized autism.

01:01:32.000 Yeah.

01:01:32.000 And it's because 4chan is just a forum of tons of people all doing a little bit.

01:01:38.000 So it's not that you know 4chan itself is uniquely empowered.

01:01:44.000 It's that active people on a forum constantly investigating with knowledge of computers and research tend to figure these things out.

01:01:54.000 Well you're seeing a lot of a lot of posts, and this is obviously all speculation, but you're seeing a lot of posts the day before the shooting from other transgender people in the area of the shooting saying tomorrow's gonna be a big day or sending threats to Charlie Kirk.

01:02:13.000 So there's also a lot of people speculating that perhaps the shooter had made this plans known, perhaps in Discord or something like that beforehand.

01:02:22.000 But this the sh the shooter obviously um, you know, if this is if there's any credence to this is was obviously bold and and and boisterous about what their plans were beforehand, what his plans were, presumably.

01:02:35.000 Um I think it's very very obviously uh uh organized.

01:02:42.000 Yeah.

01:02:42.000 The, you know, it's fascinating when people talk about this being a professional hit, and there are these theories about Charlie wearing a steel plate, which he was not, and there's uh I'm hearing a lot of people say, like, how did he escape?

01:02:56.000 And I'm like, I don't know, humans on what what is it like a uh a moderately trained human runs a six-minute mile?

01:03:03.000 So within a minute, this dude's jumping off the uh running on the stairs, running through the building, jumping down, and how many how many miles could he be away in 15 minutes?

01:03:16.000 That means three thousand people who were like, I am getting the hell out of Dodge.

01:03:20.000 Like everyone was trying to leave.

01:03:22.000 So this individual cover gets off the roof, runs to a wooded area, ditches the weapon, and then takes off their hood and mask or whatever they were wearing, and now they instantly look like someone else.

01:03:36.000 So even if you track this person from surveillance cameras into the wooded area with all of the people running around, all they had to do was wait for a group of people to be walking by and walk out with them.

01:03:46.000 And then who knows?

01:03:49.000 Yeah, I mean, you also saw a lot of these leftists after the assassination attempts or attempts on on Trump saying, get it right next time or this, that just really horrible things.

01:03:59.000 So you know that's going through the mind through a lot of these sickos is like I'm gonna be the one that gets this right this time.

01:04:04.000 And I'm and so they're getting more meticulous, more um prudent, and that's a really horrifying thing is that this can happen and he can get away, I mean, get away and not get picked up right away.

01:04:18.000 I mean, that's an absolutely petrifying thing.

01:04:21.000 Um he's still just out there.

01:04:27.000 Well it's maybe maybe well, they were supposed to have a press conference earlier today, and they canceled it due to rapid development.

01:04:32.000 Yeah, yeah, and there's rumors.

01:04:34.000 There's rumors that they got the person and then they've just not said anything, and they're going to reveal that in 30 minutes.

01:04:42.000 Hood over the head on stage.

01:04:45.000 We'd like to see a little more done, but yeah.

01:04:47.000 Yeah.

01:04:48.000 Well, we I mean, we saw the report last night, I think it was the BBC that they were going door to door.

01:04:53.000 So at that moment, my heart kind of sunk.

01:04:55.000 I thought this guy got away.

01:04:58.000 Um this is a positive development.

01:05:01.000 They're doing a press conference, and obviously there's a lot of very angry people that would like to see some things done.

01:05:05.000 Um, but a perp walk, I suppose, will suffice.

01:05:08.000 Did you see any update on the uh rumors about that private jet?

01:05:13.000 Um, that was interesting.

01:05:15.000 But but that doesn't mean a lot.

01:05:16.000 So for those that aren't familiar, uh someone tracking uh flight radar.

01:05:21.000 A private jet took off what was it uh like an hour or or like almost immediately after the shooting and then it dropped off radar before returning.

01:05:29.000 But what does that mean?

01:05:32.000 We don't know whose it is.

01:05:34.000 Considering considering it was a it was a it was a Charlie Kirk T P USA event, there are many high profile people.

01:05:39.000 It could have been just a wealthy donor who got on his plane and left.

01:05:42.000 Yeah.

01:05:43.000 They turn off uh their transponders, it's not their transponder, they turn off, but they they drop off radar, and this is standard wealthy people hiding their their their flight path from you know stalkers or whatever.

01:05:56.000 So you don't know.

01:05:57.000 I mean, we don't know.

01:05:58.000 But that rumored suspect calls himself God's finest scalpel.

01:06:05.000 Um has a song or track called Death to All Utah Screamo, and another one called 4chan Fight Club, and many others.

01:06:20.000 Dead in June, August.

01:06:23.000 It's called it's it's called Dead in August.

01:06:26.000 No, both.

01:06:26.000 There's Dead in Dead in June, and then another one after it called August.

01:06:30.000 Whoa.

01:06:31.000 Um, scarification.

01:06:33.000 Did you see what they're doing on the on Reddit?

01:06:35.000 Techniques on Reddit, all of the top songs on R/slash Music are insulting Charlie Kirk.

01:06:43.000 So like one example is the song That's What You Get by Paramore is a top song.

01:06:49.000 There they're yeah, there's one that's called I think one called it one's called Charlie's Death or something like that.

01:06:54.000 They're they're submitting this this is the terrifying thing.

01:06:58.000 They're submitting songs with titles that poke at the assassination of Charlie, and the community itself, a decentralized group are up voting all of these songs.

01:07:08.000 Which is uh going viral.

01:07:10.000 I wonder if I can pull that up actually.

01:07:14.000 Well, I mean, it doesn't it doesn't help when you have elected politicians setting the tone that you know his rhetoric, you know, is problematic and these sorts of things, so it's like, okay, we need to tone down the rhetoric.

01:07:24.000 So they're already setting the tone that having conservative principles is beyond the pale.

01:07:28.000 So the fact that the more extreme ends are Are are calling for this is not a surprise at all.

01:07:32.000 I mean, there's zero tone policing happening on the left or virtually no tone policing.

01:07:36.000 Um it's called good by this is insane.

01:07:39.000 I'm gonna pull it up.

01:07:42.000 This is Reddit.

01:07:43.000 Let me uh zoom out.

01:07:46.000 You get what you give, then there's just some news. 0.99

01:07:50.000 You're dead. 0.60

01:07:51.000 This is America. 1.00

01:07:53.000 I'm afraid of Americans. 1.00

01:07:55.000 Goodbye, Charlie, better off dead. 1.00

01:07:58.000 Wow. 1.00

01:07:58.000 That's what you get. 1.00

01:08:00.000 Sleep now in the fire, Nazi punks F off. 0.99

01:08:05.000 Ironic. 1.00

01:08:07.000 Protect your neck. 1.00

01:08:10.000 It's okay to punch Nazis. 1.00

01:08:14.000 Yep. 0.99

01:08:14.000 Good riddance by Green Day. 0.99

01:08:18.000 The day the Nazi died, Death of a Clown, The Dead Kirks, Mr. Kirk, Your Son is Dead. 0.99

01:08:26.000 That's insane. 0.75

01:08:28.000 We can't share a society with these people.

01:08:30.000 Oh.

01:08:31.000 There you have one called Ball Zipab.

01:08:33.000 The user name.

01:08:35.000 Yeah.

01:08:36.000 Very on the nose.

01:08:39.000 Yeah, that's just insane.

01:08:41.000 Uh we do have this story, which I would like to pull up from uh Times Now News.

01:08:47.000 Who is Anastasia J. Casey?

01:08:49.000 Mysterious author behind, quote, the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

01:08:53.000 A book that appeared on Amazon, is titled The Shooting of Charlie Kirk, but it w it has a published date of September 9th, the day before Charlie died.

01:09:07.000 So uh I'll just make it pretty easy for you guys.

01:09:10.000 There's a conspiracy theory going around that this was a pre-planned event, that it's some kind of deep state or conspiracy.

01:09:17.000 Many people are sharing this saying, how is this possible?

01:09:20.000 It's actually really simple.

01:09:21.000 Somebody uploaded a book to Amazon.

01:09:24.000 So the publish was there, and then they updated it a day later.

01:09:29.000 That's it.

01:09:30.000 Someone on September 9th published a book.

01:09:32.000 This is a likely what happened.

01:09:33.000 Maybe it's not.

01:09:34.000 Then yesterday, seeing that there's a chance to monetize to capitalize on it and with better SEO, updated the book that was already there with a new title.

01:09:44.000 It's called The Shooting of Charlie Kirk.

01:09:46.000 And what's happening is across Amazon, these books are all AI generated.

01:09:51.000 So people are going onto AI programs, telling it to write a book about what happened with Charlie Kirk's death and some biographical information, and then they're selling it.

01:10:02.000 We live in a screwed up and nightmarish dystopia.

01:10:07.000 Already.

01:10:09.000 Basically, the play is right now, if you know they all got one star reviews.

01:10:13.000 If you know how to AI generate a hundred pages, which is very easy, you can rip off some old people who buy books who don't know better.

01:10:22.000 And they'll read your AI slop for seven bucks apiece.

01:10:26.000 And some people will think it proves foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk's death.

01:10:31.000 Yeah.

01:10:32.000 Yeah, it's really easy to actually game the Amazon system.

01:10:35.000 There's a YouTuber Max Fosh, and he does these like challenges and and and pranks and stuff.

01:10:40.000 And he uh took his friends' text messages and put it into a the Amazon book portal or whatever to make a book, and then he put it in a really niche category.

01:10:48.000 So then it only took like 10 people to buy that book and it became a bestseller right away.

01:10:52.000 So it's like you can game this, you can game this so easy, and this AI stuff is clouding.

01:10:58.000 I mean, there's a cloud of war.

01:10:59.000 I mean, I remember after the shooting happened and the video started coming out.

01:11:02.000 The first thing everyone was saying to each other is like, oh, this has to be AI.

01:11:06.000 And um, it's just completely muddying the water, it's muddying the discourse.

01:11:09.000 I mean, Twitter's getting unusable to a degree just because of the amount of slop on there between AI and the third world.

01:11:17.000 It's very, very hard to parse through and and get real information with the way that these mechanisms work on Amazon.

01:11:24.000 It's just getting more and more confusing, and and truth is getting harder and harder to find.

01:11:29.000 It's just it's it's horrifying times at every level.

01:11:34.000 I don't know.

01:11:36.000 Uh it's just I'm getting to the point where I'm just like exhausted with all the misery because of this, you know, like seeing.

01:11:44.000 I feel like you know, a lot of it is just inflated because of the uh uh AI or just the bots, and uh it causes a uh a reaction on each side that inflates the inflation of it.

01:11:58.000 Yeah.

01:11:58.000 So that we are um not we're not looking at actual uh reactions really.

01:12:06.000 Uh they're just uh magnified by some beginning point that's already so much put into it, like so many examples of We have the uh the press conference is is uh getting set up at uh right now.

01:12:23.000 We're expecting it at 9 30.

01:12:27.000 So right now they're just setting up the TV and the podium and everything.

01:12:30.000 So we'll just we'll just have this ready to go for when we get uh when we see them come on, but uh stay stay tuned and uh it'll be up when it's up.

01:12:39.000 In the meantime, uh yeah.

01:12:43.000 Um I was just uh gonna respond to to what you said, and I'm not saying that this is you, but many people are under a misapprehension that um if you just put your phone away uh and live in the real world and touch grass, etc.

01:12:57.000 That you will be shielded from these sentiments.

01:13:01.000 And this incident more than almost anything has proven that wrong.

01:13:07.000 Because people are seeing their friends, family, colleagues, acquaintances, strangers just out in the world in public, reacting to this news with glee.

01:13:22.000 And uh they're realizing they didn't know these people as well as they thought they did, and it's not online discourse, it's not just online discourse where people feel safe behind a profile picture.

01:13:34.000 This is face-to-face.

01:13:35.000 I feel I feel like the uh the prevalence of it, the the amount of it is causing um a surge in the reality of the way people are responding to it.

01:13:48.000 They they're responding to what they think is happening, which is inflated by what happens online uh in our society now.

01:13:59.000 Um the magnification of sentiment is uh you know, it's not to say that I don't believe people are are capable of being so horrific about this this event, I mean this thing that happened.

01:14:15.000 I mean, just laughing and celebrating the streets with you know, signs, sandwich boards are wearing supporting this killing and you know, yes, sometimes uh outrage can be manufactured and amplified and magnified beyond what it really is,

01:14:38.000 like, like maybe normal people in their daily lives like don't really care about what happens to the cracker barrel logo.

01:14:46.000 This is completely different.

01:14:48.000 Completely different.

01:14:50.000 Um and people prior to this tragedy on the right, a lot of the time were saying like we need to focus on the positive stuff.

01:15:00.000 Like we're living in a golden age and everything's everything's all great and and we we won.

01:15:06.000 Just accept that we won and stop complaining and only focus on on the victories, right?

01:15:11.000 But um that's just not addressing reality.

01:15:16.000 And it's the uncomfortable reality that these people we coexist with them.

01:15:21.000 We have no other choice.

01:15:23.000 Um and they don't want to coexist with us.

01:15:26.000 Then we put them in jail.

01:15:27.000 Yes.

01:15:28.000 If you're up if you're of the opinion that you're not able to coexist with the people that you share a country with, and you think that it's acceptable to do whatever because you'll make yourself the victim, you'll accuse them of all kinds of things, and you'll say, I'm a victim.

01:15:45.000 They don't they don't they don't believe I exist, they don't acknowledge my existence, whatever whatever kind of garbage emotional manipulation the left wants to use or the leftist wants to use. 0.94

01:15:57.000 If you're saying I can't exist with those people, and so I'm going to act out violently, then we put you in jail. 0.98

01:16:05.000 That's it.

01:16:06.000 And again, I'm I'm tired of it.

01:16:08.000 They're not crazy.

01:16:09.000 They don't care what they are.

01:16:11.000 They're not.

01:16:11.000 They're prisoners in my work.

01:16:13.000 We need to be clear about that. 1.00

01:16:14.000 Like they're not just lunatics, maniacs, crazy people. 0.97

01:16:19.000 Um who killed Irina Zarutka was not uh cr crazy. 0.97

01:16:25.000 He wasn't merely crazy at the very least, is what I'll say.

01:16:28.000 That's not the reason that happened.

01:16:30.000 And it's funny because you know, people point to similar situations, similar crimes, um, just cold-blooded murder of a of a stranger.

01:16:40.000 And you see every single time they choose the weak.

01:16:44.000 Yes.

01:16:45.000 They're at least sentient enough to know who is defenseless and who is weak uh and who is an easy target.

01:16:53.000 So they're not quite detached enough from reality to ever pick a fight with someone their own size who could actually fight them off.

01:17:00.000 So they're not merely crazy.

01:17:02.000 Maybe that's a factor, but uh that's not telling the whole story.

01:17:07.000 Yeah, all the people that are it absolves them.

01:17:09.000 This is a really like excellent point.

01:17:11.000 Because I mean, like all the people we're seeing, you know, cheer and they're in total jubilee.

01:17:16.000 Yeah.

01:17:16.000 These aren't crazy people, these aren't like schizophrenics or whatever.

01:17:19.000 These are people that have come to this conclusion through through a collection of information that they've processed through a worldview and and have deemed this is correct.

01:17:28.000 Like you we can't we can't outsource this to like yeah, some sort of mental illness.

01:17:32.000 Like this, they have jobs and souls have been corroded.

01:17:38.000 They have middle management jobs, they like send a few emails.

01:17:42.000 Yeah.

01:17:43.000 Yeah.

01:17:43.000 Hopefully they won't have jobs soon.

01:17:45.000 But you know, they're existing in daily life with us, and you never know when you're encountering one of them.

01:17:51.000 Look when you say the Carlos Brown, the guy that killed Irina, like he was probably schizophrenic.

01:17:56.000 Probably, but he was he was acting on a culture that that's not completely crazy, is what you say.

01:18:00.000 And he was like, I'm just saying that doesn't explain it away. 0.98

01:18:04.000 No, no, you should still be put to death, yes. 0.73

01:18:06.000 It doesn't explain...

01:18:07.000 You should get the full extent of the law.

01:18:08.000 There are normie people at various jobs that people are aggregating that are posting this image...

01:18:13.000 It is a cartoon of Charlie Kirk with blood coming from his neck and it says debate this.

01:18:18.000 They are saying outright, if you try to have a dialogue that they will kill you.

01:18:23.000 And these are not far left extremists that we we ex we expect to see in these activist organizations.

01:18:29.000 The images that are being shared across social media, these are teachers, these are nurses, these are pilots, these are these are professors at universities, which we we kinda expect some radicalization.

01:18:37.000 But I'm this this image is is they it's it's horrifying that someone drew this up and they are selling it on t-shirts, posting it all over the place at universities, and again, the terrifying uh aspect of it is that people on on X right now I'm reading, they're saying, here's a nurse.

01:18:54.000 Here's what she posted on her Instagram.

01:18:56.000 Yep.

01:18:56.000 And it says debate this.

01:18:58.000 They are saying if you come to have a conversation, you die.

01:19:01.000 We are we I don't know what what where where we go.

01:19:04.000 I just hope the adequate and appropriate law enforcement does what it has to do to start putting a stop to this.

01:19:12.000 The only reason that those images are not incitement to violence and death threats is because they already killed Charlie, which is the horrifying thing about it.

01:19:19.000 If they took a picture of me or or any other personality or anyone in this room and it said debate this with blood spray, you could interpret that as a death threat.

01:19:28.000 As a as as an as an imminent threat.

01:19:30.000 But Charlie being dead, they're posting then plastering this thing everywhere, and we know what it means.

01:19:35.000 Yep.

01:19:36.000 So law enforcement should kick in their door and drag them out of their house, throw them in the paddy wagon, take them to jail. 0.91

01:19:44.000 We will try them.

01:19:45.000 Paddy wagons offensive.

01:19:47.000 I'm I'm Irish. 0.75

01:19:49.000 Throw them in the squad car.

01:19:51.000 Is that good?

01:19:53.000 I actually don't know what they're called because everyone calls them petty wagons, but I'm they need those big nets like dog catchers. 1.00

01:19:58.000 Yeah.

01:20:00.000 Just it's getting toss them in the toss them in the in the in the car.

01:20:03.000 Bring them to jail and leave fans.

01:20:08.000 No, no, no, no, no. 0.96

01:20:08.000 No, I want I want I want doors kicked in, flashbang, entry teams, scare the hell out of them. 0.96

01:20:14.000 It's really hard not the Fed post in real life right now.

01:20:16.000 No, this isn't Fed posting.

01:20:17.000 I want the government to do this.

01:20:18.000 This is I'm saying this you're giving me you're giving me sensible center right take of how we should be reacting to this right now.

01:20:25.000 Yo, police van is the appropriate term because a patty was a derogatory slur for Irish people.

01:20:29.000 That's what I've thought.

01:20:30.000 How dare you?

01:20:31.000 I'm Irish.

01:20:32.000 They don't they don't mind.

01:20:33.000 The Irish have got a great sense of humor.

01:20:35.000 I I had heard that somewhere, but I never actually fact-checked it.

01:20:38.000 But uh Jad GPT says it's true, so therefore it is, I guess.

01:20:41.000 Same with Hooligan.

01:20:42.000 Hooligan was also uh Irish slur, yeah.

01:20:44.000 What really?

01:20:45.000 Well, it it sounds like you know, Madigan or some like Irish name.

01:20:49.000 Right.

01:20:50.000 Yeah.

01:20:50.000 Oh, man.

01:20:51.000 Um I I was just about to say this reminds me of from who from Houlihan.

01:20:56.000 It's it was a nineteenth century London slur for the Irish originating from the surname of Hulahan.

01:21:01.000 Yeah.

01:21:04.000 Discussing hooligans.

01:21:07.000 Man, people did not like the Irish.

01:21:08.000 But last there was this intra-right debate going on about the uh woman um that Libs of TikTok, I believe, posted about um who worked at Home Depot who w was posting on Facebook about the assassination attempt against Trump.

01:21:26.000 And I think she said something to the effect of uh like I wish that that it was successful.

01:21:32.000 Um and then I believe it was libs of TikTok that ended up exposing her information and who she was and trying to get her fired. 1.00

01:21:40.000 And I think Home Depot might have actually fired that woman. 1.00

01:21:44.000 Yeah.

01:21:44.000 But there was at the time this very heated debate on the right about whether that was ethical and should we only be targeting people with public platforms who who whose job it is to comment on these things instead of just ordinary people who've had their minds raped by CNN.

01:21:59.000 Like, is that okay?

01:22:02.000 And now that this has happened, if they had the foresight of where we would be right now, there would be no debate about it.

01:22:08.000 It's the ordinary people with nothing to lose that do things like we saw yesterday.

01:22:11.000 Yes, it's not your streamers going out and doing this.

01:22:14.000 These are these are the radicals at the bottom, like Tim's talking about it's people that have nothing to lose and they feel like okay, this is my way to get into the history book or whatever, or at the very least they just want to settle a score because of some perceived injustice that's been done.

01:22:27.000 Or just ordinary evils like disowning family members, cutting off friendships.

01:22:32.000 Right.

01:22:33.000 So it's like no, that we need no holds barred.

01:22:36.000 I say it again, I'll say I've said it before, I'll say it again.

01:22:38.000 We're dealing with the death cult.

01:22:39.000 We're dealing with the death cult.

01:22:40.000 They they they relish there's been sixty million children aborted, and they love that.

01:22:44.000 They they they celebrate, they celebrate the death of officers.

01:22:47.000 Oh, I think children are saying something.

01:22:49.000 Oh, they're doing a mic check, sorry.

01:22:50.000 Yeah, so it's like no, no give no quarter here.

01:22:54.000 Uh enough.

01:22:55.000 There's no way out of this.

01:22:56.000 I mean you have to completely demoralize them, completely break them.

01:23:00.000 The full force of the federal government should come down on terrorists in the United States.

01:23:06.000 There's a so I guess the issue is right.

01:23:10.000 But what happens when it's but it's it's it's banal.

01:23:17.000 What do you mean by that?

01:23:18.000 What what what happens when there's a random dude walking on the street in New York getting stopped by Don Lemon who says that he thought it was a good thing and then he's glad it happened?

01:23:26.000 What what happens when people are posting on uh social media lists of names?

01:23:34.000 You mean and there's no reaction to it.

01:23:35.000 People say this is par for the course.

01:23:37.000 When you have when you have a when you have a terrorist organization and they have a list of targets, you go into a room and you find seven people and they have weapons and a list of targets, you make an arrest.

01:23:45.000 Who do you arrest when it's everyone in New York?

01:23:49.000 And I'm not literally everybody, but Don Lemon walked down the street and was asking random people.

01:23:53.000 Tons of these videos have popped up of Man on the Street interviews where people are going to universities and it's I know it's selectively edited.

01:24:00.000 They're choosing, but there are people all over cheering for it and saying they want more.

01:24:06.000 So the issue is the standalone complex.

01:24:09.000 It's easy to say arrest terrorists.

01:24:11.000 And it's like, okay, so what are they gonna do?

01:24:13.000 Arrest a hundred thousand people tomorrow?

01:24:14.000 It's not gonna happen.

01:24:15.000 It's impossible.

01:24:16.000 There's not a federal law enforcement to rise it, even if a hundred thousand people all stood outside, screaming out of their lungs, they intended to commit an act of violence.

01:24:23.000 The federal government doesn't have the uh doesn't have the manpower to arrest those to arrest everybody.

01:24:27.000 How do you eat an elephant?

01:24:29.000 One bite at a time.

01:24:30.000 Yeah, I mean, it's if you create a hostile environment, like if you know you'll lose your job for for rattling off.

01:24:35.000 You start with the eyes and then the anus because you have to go for the soft parts that you can. 0.95

01:24:41.000 No, it's like I mean, a lot of people, because this is some people on the right.

01:24:44.000 I mean, that's how we were boxed in for so long is because we were petrified of losing our jobs, petrified of this, that, and the other.

01:24:49.000 It's like you just have to create that same hostile environment on the other side as if they realize that oh, there's actually ramifications for you know, bathing in blood like this, then they'll think twice about it.

01:24:58.000 I mean, there's there's a lot of mechanisms that we haven't used yet.

01:25:01.000 Yeah.

01:25:03.000 Uh what I will say is cancel culture is back, baby.

01:25:09.000 And I don't care, I ain't gonna do anything.

01:25:11.000 I'm not gonna talk, I'm not gonna say nothing.

01:25:12.000 There's a um I'm looking, I'm not gonna share some of the stuff that I'm seeing all over X. It's very difficult.

01:25:16.000 But there's a woman who's mocking the death of Charlie Kirk with hundreds of thousands of followers dancing on TikTok. 1.00

01:25:22.000 And so people found out where her uh found her husband's business and have re reviewed review bombed it online into oblivion.

01:25:31.000 It is now a one-star business.

01:25:33.000 Good.

01:25:33.000 Well, I think anyone tell anyone tone policing the right right now, j uh uh just take a little hard long look in the mirror, reevaluate what your priorities are, because that I mean, that's just ridiculous after what what we've been through this last week, especially, but let alone yesterday.

01:25:48.000 Yeah, like I said, about the past ten years.

01:25:50.000 Sure.

01:25:51.000 Yeah.

01:25:51.000 I mean, if you're tone policing right now at this moment, like what are we doing here?

01:25:55.000 Wow.

01:25:55.000 Like you're an op at this point.

01:25:56.000 People are spamming the image of his wife dancing on his page with the phrase thoughts and prayers and one star reviews, and he's got uh his business used to be rated five stars, and now it is got one thousand one star reviews.

01:26:10.000 Maybe a new spirit Halloween there.

01:26:12.000 That'd be nice.

01:26:13.000 They're not used to uh OPSEC, are they on the left?

01:26:15.000 They're not at all.

01:26:16.000 They don't take those precautions at all.

01:26:18.000 Government right didn't engage in cancel culture, didn't have the ability for the most part, didn't respond with violence ever or do anything.

01:26:26.000 And that's why they all they all gloated and laughed and and mocked.

01:26:30.000 And I think to these liberals that are crying on their shows now, it's because or Hassan, for instance.

01:26:35.000 There's a video going viral right now that I don't think we can play.

01:26:38.000 They say it's a montage of Hassan calling for violence against right wingers.

01:26:41.000 Now he's panicking because he's realizing the game just started.

01:26:44.000 Yep.

01:26:44.000 And I mean the the game the figuratively, I'm saying what he advocated for, because he says in a video game, we should go do this in a video game.

01:26:54.000 Yeah, the the feds should pick him up, denaturalize him and send him to Turkey.

01:26:58.000 Real.

01:26:59.000 Yeah, I saw the uh IRL.

01:27:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:02.000 In real life, not in in a game.

01:27:04.000 Pick him up, strip him of his of his citizenship because he is an anchor baby, send him to Turkey. 1.00

01:27:10.000 Oh, and sees assets.

01:27:11.000 Well, he was born here though, right?

01:27:13.000 He's born in Jersey, but he grew up in Istanbul, so it's like he's familiar with the area, he'll love it.

01:27:18.000 It's like a homecoming.

01:27:18.000 Anchor baby.

01:27:19.000 He's not a real American, get him out of here. 1.00

01:27:21.000 Yeah.

01:27:22.000 It's kind of ironic that uh Charlie's organization is what's what he's begun here in in our country.

01:27:32.000 The turning point is like the tipping point of many things in our society now.

01:27:38.000 I mean, it feels like that.

01:27:39.000 Like, what is the future of turning point as an organization?

01:27:43.000 Obviously, nobody can fill Charlie Kirk's shoes, but someone will actually have to take over his position in that organization if it's to continue and we need it to.

01:27:54.000 And that's what he would want.

01:27:55.000 Yeah.

01:27:56.000 It's a really vital institution on the right.

01:27:58.000 I mean, I was talking about it earlier, is like he he's taking a lot of conserv people that are already conservative, like they grew up in Republican homes, but he's giving them pathways into becoming assets for the movement, broadly speaking, and uh we need turning point.

01:28:12.000 I mean Milo is uh going nuclear.

01:28:15.000 Yeah, he is, he's great.

01:28:16.000 I love him.

01:28:16.000 He's back.

01:28:17.000 He's back.

01:28:18.000 Milo has been uh he said, All right, I am unretiring, and he began uh posting many of these progressives celebrating the death of Charlie, and then uh reporting that they had been fired from their jobs.

01:28:33.000 Yeah, he is the most recent one is uh the guy from there was a guy there was a pilot that was saying some disgusting things, and Milo informed his uh employer, and he is no longer employed.

01:28:44.000 Milo is like the hatchet man for the right, so it's about time that he's back.

01:28:49.000 Maybe a new a new Milo College tour.

01:28:51.000 Yeah, but you actually talked about that, yeah.

01:28:54.000 This is like when MJ came back out of retirement.

01:28:56.000 Like there's three rings that he's gonna win now.

01:28:58.000 This is beautiful.

01:28:59.000 The first time I met Milo is he went to Dartmouth College in New Hampshire and I drove up there to see the show and hang out and stuff, and he's a great he was awesome.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, you we need guys like that, like uh lips of TikToks, excellent. 0.71

01:29:10.000 Like you you need those people that are operating kind of where I mean where this leftist violence is coming from, like it's coming from these ordinary people.

01:29:18.000 I mean, it's easy to, you know, go after these streamers or politicians or whatever, but it's like where the insurgency is gonna happen and where things are gonna get kinetic.

01:29:25.000 That's where you need to be concentrating, concentrating um assets and resources.

01:29:29.000 And so people like that, I mean, they're doing the Lord's work.

01:29:31.000 There's no question about it.

01:29:32.000 I would love to see Milo go on another college tour after this.

01:29:36.000 We love you, Milo.

01:29:36.000 I would love to.

01:29:38.000 I mean, he's even more powerful now that he's not homosexual. 1.00

01:29:40.000 Right.

01:29:42.000 Dangerous it's what we had just got to be.

01:29:45.000 He's just a dangerous man.

01:29:48.000 I mean, that's the name of his book.

01:29:49.000 When we asked him about it, he goes, I'm 40.

01:29:52.000 That's how he that was his response.

01:29:55.000 And uh he should do it.

01:29:56.000 He absolutely should.

01:29:58.000 And I think it would be tremendous.

01:30:00.000 Yeah.

01:30:00.000 And to clarify, uh what he said was, and and and I and I hope I'm I'm I'm uh quoting him correctly.

01:30:07.000 The media claimed he was no longer gay.

01:30:09.000 He never said that.

01:30:10.000 He says he was refraining from engaging in homosexual behaviors, and uh, you know, I I guess call himself ex-gay.

01:30:18.000 Right.

01:30:18.000 But what he was saying was that he's still very much attracted to men, but he will abstain from it because it's sinful.

01:30:23.000 And the media could be like ex games, who knows? 0.93

01:30:26.000 Like more than a intense version of gay. 0.64

01:30:29.000 Well, I mean, I think Milo would someone's saying something, I don't know what it is. 0.57

01:30:33.000 Mic check?

01:30:35.000 Yeah, we got a mic check over.

01:30:36.000 Well, there was a there was a woman that offered to marry Milo and he sent her back a contract term sheet.

01:30:40.000 So he's he's viewing heterosexuality very pragmatically, very business minded.

01:30:46.000 He said, I think he said verbatim, my people will talk to your people.

01:30:49.000 So um I think he would just say that like being gay isn't a state of being, it's not an identity, so he never was gay to begin with.

01:30:58.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 That's probably true.

01:31:00.000 Um welcome back, Milo.

01:31:03.000 We're we're we're glad that our hatchet man is back.

01:31:05.000 I hope he means it.

01:31:06.000 I hope it's not just uh heat of the moment thing that he's saying.

01:31:09.000 No, I think he does.

01:31:11.000 He gets it, he knows what time it is.

01:31:12.000 He's not he's not the kind of guy that that says things that he doesn't mean.

01:31:17.000 Everyone across the right knows what time it is.

01:31:19.000 Like every I mean, like every phone call I had this morning with my friends at every level, you know, grassroots, whatever, they're saying the same thing, which is we have to do so much more.

01:31:28.000 Like this is this Charlie's work is an indictment on us, like we could be giving so much more.

01:31:33.000 Um while we're while we're waiting for the press conference, real quick, I want to play this clip.

01:31:38.000 It should be starting any minute, but I want to play this from uh Ben Shapiro.

01:31:42.000 On a sort of personal level, aside from knowing Charlie and believing that Charlie was a wonderful human being, is the fact that for 10 years, more than that, I went to college campuses, did the same thing that Charlie did.

01:31:56.000 And I always said to my wife and to people around me, they would say, Well, you know, is it safe?

01:32:00.000 And I'd say, of course it's safe.

01:32:01.000 This is America.

01:32:02.000 And sure, security would tell you put on a bulletproof vest, but do you need a bulletproof vest to speak freely in America?

01:32:07.000 Do you need hundreds of bullets?

01:32:08.000 I always thought it was overkill.

01:32:10.000 I always thought it was overkill.

01:32:11.000 I do not think it's overkill anymore.

01:32:13.000 I think that we've entered into a new world, a world where huge percentages of the American public by the polling are okay with violence against one another based on speech, where excuses are made, permission structures are created for murder because you disagree with the political position of another human being.

01:32:34.000 I'm not sure how we get back, except by appeal to the exact values that Charlie stood for.

01:32:39.000 Open debate, normal discussion.

01:32:42.000 The thing about all the videos of Charlie is he's unfailingly polite in these videos to people.

01:32:46.000 When when he is having these discussions, he's polite.

01:32:48.000 He was having polite, normal conversations with people who disagreed on these college campuses.

01:32:53.000 And for that, he was murder.

01:32:55.000 Yeah.

01:32:57.000 Indeed.

01:32:59.000 I'm someone uh just super chatted.

01:33:02.000 Uh Carlo Magno says, Tim, are you pro-death penalty for Charlie's killer?

01:33:07.000 You know what I said the other day when this question came up is that in a moment like this, it's almost impossible to be morally consistent.

01:33:15.000 And uh someone quoted, I think it was like Alinsky, who said something to the effect that uh consistency I I forgot the quote was, but something like in politics there is no moral consistency.

01:33:26.000 Something like that.

01:33:28.000 And that's what we see from the left.

01:33:29.000 What I can what I can just say is um the difficulty is of course the uh attempt to destroy a nation.

01:33:40.000 This is this is more than just another murder, another act of violence.

01:33:45.000 This was a public display at a high profile political event in one of the most gruesome ways for with the intention to rip this country in half and burn it to the ground, which is substantially more devastating than just someone walking down the street and then you know, getting shot in the mugging or something.

01:34:05.000 Uh which of course, even in like those kinds of murders, he typically don't get the death penalty.

01:34:10.000 But there uh typically the death penalty is referred uh reserved for torturous murder in very extreme cases, and this is one of the most extreme cases ever.

01:34:19.000 And the only thing I can say is when the officers came out and said that Utah has the death penalty, I said, okay.

01:34:27.000 I I am typically against it because my concern Is you create a machine that allows for the state to decide when they kill somebody and the state will get it wrong.

01:34:36.000 Will.

01:34:36.000 It just happens.

01:34:37.000 However, in the instance, the singular instance of Charlie Kirk's killer, I believe that what law enforcement deems appropriate, you know, let me just be fair, guys.

01:34:46.000 I'll put it this way.

01:34:46.000 As I've long said, I oppose the death penalty, but I'm not an activist.

01:34:49.000 I don't go out and march and I don't demand moratoriums.

01:34:52.000 It's not the biggest issue on my plate.

01:34:54.000 I just lean slightly against it and say, here's why.

01:34:57.000 Yeah, you know, the idea that you can't change your mind about an issue.

01:35:01.000 Yeah, I mean, up that dude's hoo-ha. 0.99

01:35:03.000 I mean it'sn't, you know, you're a human being, and you this is a different situation.

01:35:08.000 Well, but but real quick, sorry, Phil, just logically, I oppose the death penalty.

01:35:12.000 Okay, that's totally.

01:35:13.000 But I think it's also there are exceptions.

01:35:15.000 You know, I mean, there are exceptions.

01:35:17.000 Right.

01:35:17.000 So that's all.

01:35:18.000 Sometimes a crime is so egregious and so heinous.

01:35:22.000 It's very simple.

01:35:23.000 My opinion has evolved.

01:35:26.000 Exactly.

01:35:27.000 Well, but mine hasn't.

01:35:28.000 My feelings on the matter are that of rage and a demand for retribution.

01:35:34.000 My logic centers are regardless of the circumstances, a state that is that has the authority that you grant it to kill people ultimately will result in Kamala Harris as your executioner throwing other people like Charlie Kirk in the machine that you have authorized, and that that's what I fear.

01:35:53.000 Uh so it is it is a difficult but good question.

01:35:55.000 It's a good question.

01:35:57.000 This uh the scenario that you described at the end there is always possible.

01:36:05.000 Right?

01:36:06.000 Like they're not going to say, well, you don't like it, so I don't like it either.

01:36:11.000 That's the that is the overarching situation that we're in that the people on the right need to realize when we are when we are concerned about using the power that the right has access to, we must remember the left has no reservation like that.

01:36:32.000 Did you all know that uh Charlie Kirk called black children a gift from God?

01:36:39.000 Of course he did.

01:36:40.000 Of course he did.

01:36:41.000 You see, the actual context and circumstance is that a black woman with her child came to speak to Charlie at an event, and he asked her about her child and said, with a smile on his face, that is a gift from God.

01:36:53.000 Now, the way I framed it, of course, was to make it sound like a more activisty statement about race. 0.99

01:36:58.000 The reason I did that is because when he openly criticized Katanji Brown Jackson, the left took his quote out of context and claimed he was calling black women in general stupid. 0.99

01:37:08.000 So I can do the same thing. 0.97

01:37:10.000 When Charlie Kirk saw an individual woman with a child and said, Your child is a gift from God with a smile on his face, and they both smiled and said thank you.

01:37:17.000 I can decontextualize it and make it sound like he was praising all black people.

01:37:21.000 The reality is Charlie was not a racist.

01:37:24.000 They lie because they need to make you hate him.

01:37:27.000 And when I mentioned there's a liberal friend of mine who on Instagram posted a video saying that Charlie got the world that he wanted, something to that effect.

01:37:37.000 I guarantee you, I would bet all the money I got that this person who posted it never once listened to anything Charlie had to say.

01:37:45.000 Of course not.

01:37:46.000 And some random psychopath made a post out of context to lie, and she saw it and believed it. 1.00

01:37:54.000 Because these people are demons, they are evil. 0.99

01:37:57.000 And I I someone someone made a post about how this says they said that they're they don't believe in God. 0.99

01:38:03.000 They don't know if God's real, but they know demons are.

01:38:06.000 They know evil is.

01:38:07.000 And seeing what happened to Charlie has them considering, you know, faith or religion.

01:38:13.000 I was talking with Jack Posobiec, and I told him, I said, you know, Jack, the most compelling argument for religion to me is never the resurrection, because I don't know.

01:38:24.000 I don't believe in the resurrection the way you do.

01:38:26.000 But I know demons exist, because I've seen them.

01:38:31.000 It is indescribable the evil that I've seen that defies human vices.

01:38:40.000 And that's the argument to me.

01:38:42.000 So I'll explain that.

01:38:43.000 That was the conversation I had with Jack, and you know, we had a conversation about it.

01:38:46.000 But what I'm what I mean is typically you'd expect humans to act towards some kind of human interest. 0.89

01:38:53.000 Or they're mentally ill.

01:38:56.000 So there is the greed, lust, Wrath, sloth, envy, etc. 0.97

01:39:03.000 And envy is a principal motivator for many of the left.

01:39:07.000 This is a plainly human reaction.

01:39:10.000 Someone wants a thing.

01:39:11.000 Greed.

01:39:12.000 Someone wants a thing.

01:39:14.000 So when they steal, you understand the human nature, an element of that.

01:39:19.000 But I have seen politically and personally, people who have taken actions that serve only to destroy themselves and those around them with smiles and twisted grins, seemingly just for the purpose of pain, suffering, destruction, or uh uh desecration.

01:39:39.000 And I couldn't comprehend why they would do it.

01:39:43.000 The only exponent explanation is evil.

01:39:46.000 Because if you were to look at a person who is good and they're trying to help you, you can always say, Well, look, he is trying to help you, but he knows that if you succeed, he succeeds, a rising tide lifts all ships.

01:39:56.000 Oh, he's only helping you because he expects this, or you know, you're gonna own a favor, things like that.

01:40:03.000 But what is the function of evil when when someone grabs a child and chucks them off a third floor of a mall.

01:40:13.000 For just there's there's there's no benefit to themselves, there's no benefit to humanity.

01:40:17.000 It only serves to cause pain to the individual.

01:40:20.000 This really happened.

01:40:20.000 It was a mall of America.

01:40:22.000 The individual who did it is is it is to be uh uh to suffer for it. 0.94

01:40:27.000 And again, there's the argument of but they're mentally unwell.

01:40:31.000 Many of these individuals you would argue are, but there are people who are seemingly functioning, logical, sane individuals who do things like this, and it defies logic.

01:40:42.000 They are not behaving in a way that benefits even their own selfishness.

01:40:47.000 They are taking an action that only destroys causes suffering to literally everyone themselves.

01:40:55.000 And that to me is just evil.

01:40:57.000 It's demonic.

01:40:58.000 And they laugh as they burn.

01:41:00.000 And I'm like, that is not logical or sane or rational, or I don't know what's wrong with them.

01:41:08.000 I suppose the easy answer is there must be some defect in their brain when they do these things.

01:41:12.000 But I'm like, some of these people are high functioning and they act normal and then they do evil things.

01:41:18.000 It's not a cognitive dysfunction.

01:41:21.000 They are you're right, they are under the influence of demons.

01:41:24.000 Yeah.

01:41:25.000 The light will shine into the darkness and the darkness will not comprehend it.

01:41:29.000 It completely defies human reason.

01:41:31.000 That's the point.

01:41:33.000 And that's why trans people specifically seem to have this propensity towards violence and violent fantasies, because their entire existence is annihilation of self and radical rebellion against God. 1.00

01:41:48.000 While we're waiting, because the the press conference, of course, is running late.

01:41:51.000 We'll grab you a rumble rants and chat.

01:41:52.000 So smash the like button, share the show.

01:41:54.000 The uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10, perhaps, unless the press conference runs long.

01:42:00.000 We will stay here for the breaking news.

01:42:03.000 Shenitz Wilder says, I'll be leading a prayer space for Charlie and his family Sunday night at 8:30, 7:30 Central on X. We'll pray the Sacred Heart, Divine Mercy, and St. Michael's chaplet.

01:42:14.000 All the Timcast family is welcome to join.

01:42:18.000 Right on.

01:42:21.000 All right. 0.99

01:42:22.000 Mythos says the doxing on Twitter is beautiful, so much scum getting consequences. 0.98

01:42:27.000 No, no, let's clarify. 0.97

01:42:28.000 No one's getting doxed.

01:42:29.000 These people have made public posts on profiles that have identified themselves.

01:42:35.000 No one is showing their address or anything.

01:42:38.000 What we're seeing is they made a public post, and then and on their profiles, it's like I work for company.

01:42:44.000 And then they someone tags company, hey, this person works for you, and the company fires them.

01:42:48.000 It's never even crossed their mind that they would face consequences.

01:42:52.000 Full name, face, LinkedIn.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, they're always just like confused when they have Will Austin says, I work for Scott Pressler's early vote action.

01:43:03.000 We do the work Turning Point does, just on a smaller scale.

01:43:06.000 Now would be a great time if you had Scott Pressler back on the show.

01:43:09.000 We need your help, Tim.

01:43:11.000 Uh we'll we'll reach out.

01:43:17.000 Mr. Beebe says, can you look into the report Alex Jones put out about the New York Times headline from 9-9 about Charlie Kirk shooting?

01:43:23.000 He said there were headlines on the on the way back machine, 19 hours before the incident.

01:43:28.000 Indeed, because what these companies do is they write articles, then when news breaks, they go to the existing article, erase it, and rewrite it.

01:43:38.000 Why?

01:43:38.000 Because it maintains Google search optimization.

01:43:42.000 It is disgusting.

01:43:44.000 And uh there were a few high profile instances where the New York Times did this.

01:43:49.000 They wrote an article that was fact-based neutral about the Reddit CEO.

01:43:54.000 This is back in I think like 2014.

01:43:56.000 It went viral on Reddit, for instance.

01:43:59.000 It was like the number one, three and fifth most viewed articles of all time.

01:44:04.000 And the next and then within like uh a day or so, they changed the article to an opinion piece about how misogynists had trampled feminism. 0.96

01:44:14.000 So if you went on Reddit and you saw a headline that said Reddit CEO fired and clicked it, it would bring you to an opinion to an op-ed about feminism.

01:44:23.000 That violates Reddit's rules and was unprecedented.

01:44:26.000 I reached out to several moderators at the time and I asked them, I said, the rules for the subreddit subreddit is that the title of the post must be identical to the title of the headline.

01:44:36.000 There is obviously some forgiveness if the if the if the title of the headline alters in only the most minimal of ways, like punctuation or articles.

01:44:44.000 But these are different articles.

01:44:45.000 And uh there was some communication between the moderators.

01:44:48.000 They were all shocked that the New York Times was doing this because of what it meant for Reddit as moderators, and they agreed to delete all the posts because they've they broke the rules.

01:44:58.000 The New York Times did because they're trying to game Google to rip off the system and make money.

01:45:05.000 Pretty wild.

01:45:11.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:45:14.000 Kenna Olivia says, Rest in peace, Charlie, an American hero.

01:45:17.000 Tim and everyone, your live shows tonight especially make me and many others not feel so alone.

01:45:22.000 Excuse me, I'm gonna sneeze.

01:45:23.000 In this pain.

01:45:25.000 God bless you all.

01:45:28.000 Andre Tugalescu says Charlie Kirk should be canonized.

01:45:32.000 You know, I've been hearing that.

01:45:34.000 A lot of people saying that.

01:45:35.000 What do you think, Mary?

01:45:37.000 Well, he wasn't Catholic.

01:45:38.000 I don't think a non-Catholic He wasn't Catholic.

01:45:41.000 No, he wasn't.

01:45:43.000 I've heard that his wife is Catholic.

01:45:45.000 I didn't know that.

01:45:45.000 Uh Catholic, yeah.

01:45:47.000 Wow.

01:45:48.000 But yeah, I don't think a non-Catholic can be pretty sure you're correct. 1.00

01:45:51.000 Yeah.

01:45:52.000 Yeah.

01:45:53.000 But I don't know.

01:45:54.000 Certainly a man of faith, though.

01:45:56.000 Yeah.

01:45:56.000 Not to discredit that.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, the Ian said that the other night, and there are criteria that have to be met.

01:46:02.000 You can't just be like really awesome dude.

01:46:05.000 Two miracles uh have to be treated.

01:46:08.000 Did you see uh people were posting just sweet Charlie?

01:46:11.000 Yeah.

01:46:11.000 There's a lot of people, there's a lot of people that are posting I am Charlie uh or his name in the chat.

01:46:16.000 There's people that are posing his name was Charlie Kirk.

01:46:18.000 There's a lot of people that are saying, you know, just we Charlie Kirk.

01:46:22.000 Um good because people understand that this could very easily be them.

01:46:28.000 They the people that killed Charlie don't love normal conservatives either, and they would do horrible things to you as well.

01:46:42.000 So we got this video.

01:46:45.000 Um I knew this, and I'm just seeing it now again that uh Charlie was from Chicago.

01:46:54.000 Really?

01:46:55.000 He was from Arlington Heights, which is a northern suburb of the Chicago Land area, and someone posted um let me see if I can pull this up while we're still waiting for this press conference.

01:47:05.000 I'll I'll keep the audio low so we can hear if it starts.

01:47:07.000 Oh, listen closer.

01:47:09.000 Uh Isabel Brown posted this from his high school yearbook.

01:47:14.000 He was voted most likely to become president.

01:47:17.000 Yeah.

01:47:17.000 Wow.

01:47:18.000 Most likely to take over the world.

01:47:22.000 Wow.

01:47:23.000 Most most likely to make a difference in the world.

01:47:25.000 Charlie Kirk.

01:47:27.000 Wow.

01:47:28.000 We have uh a clip that I want to pull up of Benny Johnson snapping on Chris Cuomo as we uh wait for this press conference.

01:47:38.000 Any any any word yet?

01:47:39.000 No.

01:47:39.000 All right.

01:47:40.000 So let's uh start from the beginning.

01:47:42.000 It's a minute.

01:47:42.000 I don't really care how we got here so much.

01:47:45.000 There is a lot of blame to go around.

01:47:47.000 I do not see you guys as victims.

01:47:50.000 You give as good as you get.

01:47:51.000 Uh there is a lot of anger, there is a lot of exaggeration.

01:47:55.000 It is all hate for profit on the fringe of this battling uh binary political system.

01:48:02.000 My question is I am I'm not sure.

01:48:04.000 My question is now what?

01:48:06.000 Charlie Kirk has never advocated Charlie Kirk has never advocated violence ever.

01:48:11.000 Charlie Kirk was only nonviolent, a nonviolent, peaceful debater.

01:48:16.000 He went into places where he knew he was hated in order to engage.

01:48:20.000 I never I agree and agree that he was not about violence.

01:48:25.000 Oh hold on.

01:48:26.000 It's not Chris.

01:48:26.000 Hold on, I'm not talking about it with Charlie.

01:48:28.000 Benny, don't play games with me.

01:48:31.000 I'm giving you latitude because you deserve it because this was your friend, and this is scary and it hurts, and it could have just as easily been you.

01:48:38.000 The dehuman is wrong.

01:48:40.000 It's wrong.

01:48:41.000 And you'll never question me out, Chris, because I'll never dehumanize.

01:48:46.000 If I hear that Joe Biden gets internal cancer diagnosis, if I hear that Joe Biden gets a terminal cancer diagnosis, I'll say a prayer for him.

01:48:53.000 I'll say that I hope he lives the rest of his days painless.

01:48:57.000 That's exactly what I said, and every person that I know and respect, and I know them all in my ecosystem said the same thing.

01:49:05.000 Not a single one of us celebrated celebrated Joe Biden's terminal cancer diagnosis.

01:49:11.000 Now I can show you an endless series of TikToks and celebration posts and t-shirts made celebrating this travesty.

01:49:21.000 There is a fundamental difference of those who glorify death on the left.

01:49:25.000 And it is demonic and it's dark and it needs to be disappointed.

01:49:30.000 I hear that.

01:49:31.000 Chris Cuomo is part of the problem.

01:49:33.000 Absolutely.

01:49:34.000 It is a fact in the mainstream political space that there are prominent liberals who scream into the camera that Trump is a threat, that we are a threat.

01:49:46.000 There are prominent high-profile liberals who intentionally lie about all of us and smear us and claim that we're calling for violence. 0.98

01:49:56.000 They posted videos where they said that Charlie Kirk wants you dead.

01:50:00.000 They do it on purpose.

01:50:01.000 It's stochastic terrorism. 0.97

01:50:03.000 And Chris Cuomo has the gall to say it's coming from both sides.

01:50:08.000 You know, I ask myself this periodically, is it?

01:50:11.000 Are we blinded by what's going on?

01:50:14.000 Perhaps we're wrong by our own biases.

01:50:17.000 And then I see every single day that let's just call it 8020 in both directions.

01:50:23.000 And that is on the right, 80% of the right-wing voices are saying, Stop, we can't have violence.

01:50:30.000 And on the left, it's inverted.

01:50:32.000 You have your 20% or so of prominent liberals who are coming out now saying we don't want this, we don't want this.

01:50:38.000 And then you can take a look at the individual I'm gonna leave unnamed, a high celebrity saying Charlie got the world that he wanted.

01:50:44.000 How about that?

01:50:45.000 People like Ilhan Omar, people like Matthew Dowd on MSNBC who said it must have been shooting their guns in celebration, which is psychotic because people don't do that, saying that he he said awful things and he got it.

01:50:59.000 And that this happens all the time on the left at the highest levels.

01:51:04.000 And I've got words for the young Turks, even, but I'm gonna cut them slack because they've turned around in recent history, but we all know it. 1.00

01:51:11.000 We we know what Hassan Piker has said.

01:51:13.000 The highest trafficked leftist streamer has a viral video right now that I cannot play because he as the video states, he is calling for violence against the right.

01:51:26.000 I can't repeat some of the things he said.

01:51:29.000 And then he goes in a video game. 0.97

01:51:31.000 And then Chris Cuomo, because the dude can't read and is a liar, says it's coming from both sides. 0.97

01:51:39.000 I'll say it again. 0.98

01:51:40.000 A Patriot prayer.

01:51:42.000 An event in Portland.

01:51:43.000 A guy showed up doing Nazi salutes, and they threw him out.

01:51:47.000 I'll say it again.

01:51:48.000 I was at a Patriot Prayer Proud Boys March in Portland.

01:51:53.000 Antifa counter-protested, and Antifa was screaming racial slurs at the top of their lungs at the Proud Boys.

01:52:01.000 Because there were black people and his and Latinos.

01:52:05.000 And there was a black man who was with the Proud Boys who started fuming, broke from the crowd, and went to cross the street, and a white Proud boy ran up to him and grabbed him by the arm, turned him around and said, Stop listening to him.

01:52:16.000 You're my brother.

01:52:17.000 Took his hand and said, Don't let him divide us.

01:52:20.000 You are my brother.

01:52:21.000 Don't listen to them. 0.98

01:52:22.000 And it was the white leftists screaming the racial slurs.

01:52:25.000 There's a video where they went to an ice facility screaming the N-word at police.

01:52:31.000 So Chris Cuomo needs to pay attention and actually read about what's going on, but I'm not surprised the guy who faked having COVID and lied about it to this day would have no integrity.

01:52:43.000 It looks like they may be getting ready for this press conference.

01:52:45.000 We're still waiting, but we'll stick with it.

01:52:47.000 Yeah, they gave a two-minute warning.

01:52:48.000 Is that what they did?

01:52:49.000 Good.

01:52:50.000 The uh looks like a police officer walked into the podium.

01:52:53.000 Um I'm sick of this game of I asked myself this today.

01:52:58.000 I mentioned that that story where it was the weirdest thing in the world for me to hear the words from my wife, they killed Charlie.

01:53:06.000 And how serious that meant for us.

01:53:09.000 And why it is that for the past several years, we have had to live with consideration of leftist violence and threats against our family.

01:53:19.000 Fifteen swattings in one year, bomb threats, two bomb squads, my home being swept.

01:53:26.000 They found a private address of mine that was leaked by someone who had private information, and they swatted it.

01:53:34.000 We don't see that happening to Hassan.

01:53:36.000 No, the worst that happened to Hassan was that Sam Hyde went on stage and said he was gonna kill him.

01:53:39.000 Which is a bad thing, don't get me wrong.

01:53:42.000 Here we go.

01:53:42.000 Press conference, we got cash.

01:53:46.000 Oh, YouTube.

01:53:51.000 Shout out to Cash Patel, by the way.

01:53:53.000 Amazing work.

01:53:58.000 That's amazing.

01:53:59.000 So weird, man.

01:54:02.000 It's crazy to me that we interviewed Donald Trump and he uh was the was the main guest on our on our show.

01:54:08.000 Hi, everybody.

01:54:08.000 Thank you for being here today.

01:54:09.000 My name is Hillary Kellner.

01:54:11.000 I am the communications director for the Utah Department of Public Safety.

01:54:14.000 This evening we have FBI Director Patel, FBI Deputy Director, Dan Bongino, Special Agent in Charge, Robert Bowles, Governor Spencer Cox, Lieutenant Governor Didra Henderson, and Commissioner Anderson, as well as I'm so sorry, Commissioner.

01:54:33.000 Commissioner Bohemson, as well as some local partners here present with us today.

01:54:37.000 Governor, we'll kick it off.

01:54:40.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us here uh tonight.

01:54:43.000 We appreciate the media and uh the partnership we have with you in helping us to get information out to the public so that we can uh we can catch this assassin and uh and hold him accountable.

01:54:56.000 Uh we uh we are going to uh to share uh a portion of a video and that that we have of the uh of the the suspect as well as some new stills of those have already been released, uh, but we want to make sure that they get as much attention as possible so that we can get help from uh from the public in uh in tracking down uh this uh this this evil human being.

01:55:21.000 So we're we're going to uh we're going to cue up the video right now, show that.

01:55:25.000 I've asked uh Commissioner Bo Mason if he would narrate to you what is happening in this video.

01:55:33.000 Thank you, Governor Bo Mason, Commissioner for the Utah Department of Public Safety.

01:55:39.000 If you look up to the top left, you'll see the the building where the shooter uh was chromed out in the top left corner.

01:55:45.000 We'll go ahead and play that video and I'll narrate it as we walk through that.

01:55:51.000 So here you see that the suspect ran behind that upper upper building is gonna come out on the right, moves to this far right corner.

01:56:04.000 As he does, he's gonna climb off the edge and then drop down to the ground.

01:56:09.000 As he did that, he left some palm impressions, um, there's some smudges and some places we're looking to collect DNA.

01:56:16.000 There's a shoe imprint where we believe the suspect is clearly identified as wearing converse tennis shoes.

01:56:23.000 Again, we'll replay that again so you can get another view of that.

01:56:28.000 It's important to note his black t-shirt, his black pants, um, and there is appears to be some white on the soles of those converse tennis shoes.

01:56:36.000 Those are all identifiable items that we're looking for in the steels that are gonna follow this.

01:56:42.000 You're gonna see a very distinctive t-shirt with an American flag and appears to have an eagle on it.

01:56:46.000 There's also a baseball cap with a triangle on it, and a pair of sunglasses, all distinctive, all things that we would ask the public to look for and try to uh identify if they know someone who is has those items, who has been seen wearing those items, we're looking for all that information.

01:57:04.000 Here you see the suspect after dropping off the building.

01:57:06.000 He moved around across this grass area, around the parking lot.

01:57:10.000 We're going to pan to the right.

01:57:20.000 After he crosses the street, this is where he moves over into the wooded area.

01:57:26.000 This is the uh video evidence that we we utilize to track his movements and to locate that firearm in that wooded area following the discovery of this evidence.

01:57:38.000 You want to go to the seals.

01:57:41.000 So here's the still photographs.

01:57:43.000 I mentioned these have been enhanced.

01:57:45.000 Um these are slightly different than what we we introduced earlier.

01:57:48.000 Um please play close attention to the t-shirt, like I said, very distinctive with that American flag and that eagle.

01:57:55.000 Um the hat with the triangle and the sunglasses.

01:58:02.000 Um the backpack as well.

01:58:04.000 Um, all identifying features that we're hoping the public can help us identify and lead us to this suspect.

01:58:11.000 Next picture.

01:58:14.000 And again, there's a better picture of the hat with that triangle logo, and again the t-shirt.

01:58:19.000 Blue jeans, and you get a good look at those those converse tennis shoes as well.

01:58:24.000 Uh we have pushed these out.

01:58:26.000 We'll continue to push these out, and we just ask for the public's cooperation through the public.

01:58:31.000 Um, the tips that have been coming in are what are giving us our next leads and enabling us to continue to further this investigation.

01:58:39.000 We've had great cooperation from the public, and we're continuing to ask for that as we move forward.

01:58:44.000 Thank you.

01:58:44.000 I'll turn time back over to Governor Cox.

01:58:48.000 Thank you so much, uh Commissioner Mason.

01:58:50.000 I want to uh I want to thank Director Patel and his team.

01:58:54.000 It's great to have them on the ground with us tonight.

01:58:56.000 Uh we've had several briefings and uh he's had an opportunity to uh to walk the crime scene.

01:59:01.000 Uh we uh we appreciate uh our our local law enforcement here.

01:59:05.000 Again, we have uh we have Mike Smith who is the uh the county sheriff here.

01:59:10.000 We have all of our local uh local chiefs of police that are here as well, all working hand in hand with the state and with the FBI as we uh as we move forward with this investigation.

01:59:22.000 Now just give you a little more.

01:59:24.000 We will not be taking any questions at this time.

01:59:27.000 Uh that we're giving you the latest information we have, being as transparent with everything that we have.

01:59:32.000 Um, but I do want to share a couple things that I think are important.

01:59:35.000 Um we uh we cannot do our job without the public's help right now.

01:59:40.000 We uh the public has answered our call for action so far.

01:59:44.000 We've received more than 7,000 leads and tips.

01:59:48.000 Uh I would just note that the FBI hasn't received this many digital media tips from the public since the Boston Marathon bombing.

01:59:56.000 This case also highlights the dedication of our law enforcement community.

02:00:00.000 We have 20 federal, state, and local law enforcement partners that are working shoulder to shoulder to find the person who committed this horrific crime.

02:00:08.000 With their support, we've completed uh nearly 200 interviews.

02:00:12.000 As uh as you're aware, as has already been reported, the FBI is offering a 100,000 dollar reward for information leading to the identification and arrest of the person responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk.

02:00:26.000 We also continue to implore the public to support this investigation and come forward with any information.

02:00:33.000 We are truly hopeful that this video and new photos will lead to uh to even more tips.

02:00:39.000 We are processing, we have an incredible team, a state and federal team working together to process those tips.

02:00:44.000 Uh, we're going out in tandem to interview any potential person of interest or or suspects, but we need uh again, we need as many uh as much help as we can possibly get.

02:00:55.000 Any videos or photos that you might have, uh the public should be submitted to our digital media tip line, which is uh www.fbi.gov forward slash Utah Valley Shooting all lowercase.

02:01:09.000 Again, that is FBI.gov forward slash Utah Valley Shooting, all lowercase.

02:01:15.000 You can also provide general tips about the shooting by calling 1-800 call FBI.

02:01:20.000 That's 1800 C A L L FBI or at tips.fbi.gov.

02:01:27.000 This is uh I would just say this is not just a local matter here in Utah.

02:01:31.000 We have people all over the country that are helping to bring this perpetrator to justice for Charlie Kirk and his family.

02:01:38.000 I will just add as well that, as was mentioned, there is a lot of forensic evidence that is being processed right now at both the state lab and federal labs on the East Coast.

02:01:53.000 So we are working in TANN together.

02:01:56.000 I would also just add a word of note.

02:01:59.000 For those people who are spending so much time on social media, I think Charlie said it best, that when things get bad, we should put our phones down and spend a little time with our families.

02:02:13.000 There is a tremendous amount of disinformation.

02:02:17.000 We are tracking our team, the state team, and I'm sure the federal team as well.

02:02:26.000 What we're seeing is our adversaries want violence.

02:02:29.000 We have bots from Russia, China, all over the world that are trying to instill disinformation and encourage violence.

02:02:38.000 I would encourage you to ignore those, to turn off those streams, and spend a little more time with our families.

02:02:46.000 We desperately need some healing.

02:02:48.000 We'll have more to say about that in the days and weeks to come.

02:02:53.000 More than anything, we are going to catch this person.

02:02:55.000 Last thing I will just say is we've been working with our attorneys, getting everything that we need, affidavits ready, so that we can pursue the death penalty in this case.

02:03:06.000 And that will happen here in the state of Utah.

02:03:09.000 Again, to the public, to those who are grieving, thank you for your prayers.

02:03:16.000 I know we are feeling those prayers.

02:03:18.000 I know the Kirk family is feeling those prayers as well.

02:03:22.000 We pray that God will bless our nation at this very dark time.

02:03:26.000 We can start healing by finding this perpetrator and holding him accountable, and we need your help to do that.

02:03:32.000 Thank you.

02:03:39.000 statement from Kevin it's all right that's awesome well there you go that's the press conference ladies and gentlemen um we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show I want to talk about some of these videos from some of these uh liberals and leftists and what they've been saying so you can follow uh me on exit instagram at Timcast that's gonna be rumble.com slash Timcast I R L in uh just about a minute or so

02:04:09.000 as we we go through uh rounding out the show thank you all so much for hanging out uh once again join our Discord server at timcast.com you can call into the show as a member of our Discord community and this conversation doesn't stop they have pre-shows after shows hangouts and there's uh uh you're we're we're working on community events despite the the the risks and threats we're just adapting so we'll figure that one out uh yeah Jay did you want to shout anything out of the uh no I don't actually I I don't uh you

02:04:39.000 I have some things in the works personally, but I don't have anything concrete right now.

02:04:45.000 This is actually pretty much nowhere right now.

02:04:51.000 All right.

02:04:52.000 Low profile.

02:04:53.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.

02:04:56.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.

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02:05:36.000 Go to the gym.

02:05:37.000 Get in shape.

02:05:38.000 There are people that hate you give them more reasons to hate you.

02:05:42.000 Be champions we are going to keep the show going so head over to rumble.com slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored portion of the show where we have much more to discuss and it's just not so fun.

02:05:55.000 Thanks for hanging out we'll see y'all over there in about 30 seconds Yeah.

02:07:00.000 I I tend to think the FBI will often you would just lie in the past when the shooter was known to the FBI, they catch them right away.

02:07:08.000 It's kind of like we get it. 0.98

02:07:11.000 So in this instance, it looks genuine that they have no fucking idea. 0.97

02:07:15.000 This is what it actually looks like. 0.98

02:07:19.000 Right.

02:07:19.000 I don't think he can he can be out in the world.

02:07:23.000 And uh I mean people will turn him in.

02:07:25.000 We don't have his face.

02:07:26.000 I think 4chan probably knows who it is.

02:07:29.000 I mean the sky person.

02:07:31.000 Maybe.

02:07:31.000 I'm not gonna say the name because you don't know for sure.

02:07:34.000 You know, we don't want to get sued.

02:07:35.000 Uh-huh.

02:07:36.000 It happens.

02:07:37.000 Uh let's uh I want to play this video.

02:07:38.000 I've not seen it.

02:07:40.000 But it's uh let's just play it.

02:07:42.000 I'm sick and tired of it. 0.99

02:07:44.000 Left wingers, liberals, you need to be fucking showing your opponents' guts on there, okay? 1.00

02:07:51.000 You need to be gutting them. 1.00

02:07:53.000 You need to be shanking these motherfuckers and letting their fucking letting their intestines just ride on stage. 1.00

02:08:01.000 What the fuck is this shit, man? 1.00

02:08:04.000 Slice him up. 1.00

02:08:06.000 Slice him and fucking dice him. 1.00

02:08:08.000 What the fuck is this? 1.00

02:08:10.000 You cannot have a bigger fucking layup. 1.00

02:08:13.000 You could not have had a bigger fucking layup than a horrible candidate like Herschel Walker. 1.00

02:08:19.000 Sure, he was prepared very well. 0.99

02:08:21.000 And Herschel Walker actually had a good uh uh uh uh uh the chat just a shank of it.

02:08:28.000 We got to keep attracting younger viewers that you know grow up on TikTok, you know, when they're eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, even though they shouldn't be.

02:08:40.000 Now this guy is down, he's dead.

02:08:42.000 These guys are like I'm fatally wounded.

02:08:45.000 They're not even like they're not even running.

02:08:47.000 They're not even like cowering and running away and screaming in fear.

02:08:50.000 There's like, okay, well, they did it, we got our shots.

02:08:52.000 Okay, is this guy done? 1.00

02:08:53.000 Oh shit. 1.00

02:08:54.000 Well, okay. 1.00

02:08:59.000 It's called shock. 0.99

02:09:01.000 Anything that happens, I mean, like, holy shit, guys. 0.97

02:09:04.000 If you live in Florida, I have an opportunity for you. 0.95

02:09:06.000 If you want to earn 100,000, let me know. 0.99

02:09:10.000 Jesus fucking Christ. 0.99

02:09:12.000 Flags we can put that over the bleeding part. 1.00

02:09:16.000 And then this guy seven four Bellv driver. 0.99

02:09:22.000 I'm gonna kill you with my AR fifteen. 0.71

02:09:24.000 Like that's what the that's the type of messages they were leaving in this dude's uh uh dude's office and he's resigning. 0.98

02:09:34.000 Like he's literally this is his last term.

02:09:37.000 So I think that people are a lot more radical.

02:09:41.000 It's hurt poor people that they can they they can afford housing in Berkeley.

02:09:45.000 I don't know how that works.

02:09:46.000 Well, my understanding is that the property owners who have properties there choose just not to rent it at all. 1.00

02:09:52.000 Yeah, kill them, kill those motherfuckers and murder those motherfuckers in the street. 1.00

02:09:55.000 Let the streets let the streets soak in their fucking red capitalist bloods, dude. 1.00

02:10:01.000 This is the clip I was talking about. 1.00

02:10:02.000 Wow.

02:10:03.000 That's like an old clip though, right?

02:10:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:10:05.000 How is he still on Twitch? 1.00

02:10:07.000 Because Twitch is fucking commie bullshit. 1.00

02:10:10.000 They love that guy. 1.00

02:10:13.000 The owner of Twitch or the Well, he was just on screen saying, like, we need to get these children who are nine, ten, eleven years old.

02:10:20.000 That was someone else.

02:10:21.000 That was that wasn't a sign.

02:10:22.000 That was some weird I don't know.

02:10:23.000 That was the guy that runs Twitch.

02:10:24.000 Oh, was it?

02:10:25.000 Yeah, the CEO of the Twitch. 1.00

02:10:26.000 He was holy shit. 0.99

02:10:27.000 He was giving Sasan a birthday present. 1.00

02:10:30.000 Yeah.

02:10:30.000 And like there for his own.

02:10:31.000 That's why he's on Twitch.

02:10:32.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:10:33.000 He wants the other nine-year-olds watching this shit. 1.00

02:10:36.000 I hold Bezos responsible. 1.00

02:10:38.000 Doesn't he own Twitch?

02:10:39.000 It's an Amazon property.

02:10:40.000 It is. 1.00

02:10:41.000 Fuck Amazon. 1.00

02:10:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:10:43.000 I'm finna tweet date.

02:10:44.000 Amazon properties.

02:10:45.000 President Offina means fixing two.

02:10:48.000 Southern slang.

02:10:51.000 Craziness. 0.99

02:10:52.000 But the fact that this guy's like, he's shitting his pants right now. 0.96

02:10:57.000 Because he knows that he has said some absolutely horrible things, and he is at the top of the list when it comes to crazy people that might want to get some, you know, get some retribution for the from the left. 0.95

02:11:11.000 Here's Olian Omar.

02:11:13.000 What I do know for sure is that you know Charlie was someone who once said um, you know, guns save lives.

02:11:25.000 This is recent, too.

02:11:26.000 Um, after uh a school about Charlie.

02:11:28.000 Um Charlie was someone who was willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd uh in the hands of Minneapolis police. 0.98

02:11:38.000 I think he called him a scumbag. 0.97

02:11:39.000 Right, have no regard. 0.99

02:11:41.000 Um I just gotta pause, and this is right there in this moment the line.

02:11:48.000 George Floyd was chewing on a speed ball, methamphetamines behind the wheel of a car, tried using counterfeit money, the police saw him in the vehicle and took him out.

02:12:00.000 When they attempted to arrest him, and by all means, please go watch the body cam footage that corroborates all of this.

02:12:06.000 He resisted arrest, screamed, put me on the ground three times, and they put him on the ground.

02:12:14.000 He had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system.

02:12:17.000 I am not saying that was his cause of death.

02:12:20.000 That was reported.

02:12:21.000 Derek Chauvin showed up after this point, was informed that Floyd was being arrested and resisting, and he used a neck restraint.

02:12:31.000 Call it whatever you want.

02:12:33.000 Maybe he was negligent, by all means make the argument, but George Floyd is the man that they champion. 0.98

02:12:39.000 And when Charlie Kirk called him a scumbag, he's making reference to a man who is doing drugs while driving. 0.95

02:12:44.000 And they defend George Floyd. 0.98

02:12:46.000 Slavery and what black people have gone through in this country by saying Juneteenth should never exist.

02:12:54.000 Um I think you know the the there are.

02:12:58.000 He downplayed slavery and what black people go through by saying Juneteenth shouldn't exist.

02:13:04.000 That's a that's a com but those are two different completely different things.

02:13:08.000 Saying there shouldn't be a new national holiday has nothing to do with whether or not it was a problem that people were enslaved.

02:13:13.000 Well who are out there talking about a lot and just wanting to have a civil debate.

02:13:17.000 Um history.

02:13:21.000 Yeah, there is nothing um more effed up, you know, like uh than to than to completely pretend that you know his words and actions um have not been recorded and and and in existence um for for the last decade or so. 0.89

02:13:40.000 And and they are violent, dangerous psychopaths that lie. 0.51

02:13:44.000 Denaturalize in deport. 0.96

02:13:47.000 I in my personal life have to deal with these the the what these people do every day.

02:13:54.000 And it's funny because people who watch the show experience it too, and people super chat being like, my brother or my cousin said this about you, and I watched the show, and I'm like, you've never said that. 0.97

02:14:03.000 They just fucking make it up. 0.97

02:14:05.000 Evil. 1.00

02:14:06.000 Evil for the purpose of destruction and murder. 0.99

02:14:09.000 She is saying that because she wants more of us to be murdered.

02:14:15.000 This is not true.

02:14:17.000 Charlie never advocated for death or downplayed slavery.

02:14:19.000 He was not a racist, but they are lying because they want the people who don't and won't watch these shows to have hate in their hearts and to engage in acts of violence.

02:14:32.000 We should grab some callers, and we'll start with uh Breakfast Lord Waffles. 0.87

02:14:38.000 What's up, Waffles?

02:14:42.000 You are muted, sir.

02:14:44.000 Hey there, thanks for having me back.

02:14:46.000 Greetings from Minneapolis.

02:14:48.000 Right on.

02:14:48.000 Oh.

02:14:49.000 So uh question for the panel. 0.55

02:14:51.000 Um, America is profoundly sick, politically, socially, physically, mentally, and reproductively.

02:14:57.000 Much of this has been tied to endocrine system disrupting Chemicals or EDCs, which are widely proven to cause IQ loss, obesity, diabetes, depression, anxiety, ADHD, autism, infertility, sex hormone dysregulation, and more.

02:15:14.000 Swapping these chemicals for safer ones will save the US well over three hundred billion dollars annually and ameliorate many of America's biggest problems.

02:15:22.000 How can Maha leverage uh how can we leverage Maha and RFK to stop this catastrophic poisoning of America?

02:15:31.000 I mean, that's what they're doing, isn't it?

02:15:33.000 Yeah.

02:15:35.000 Are you just saying that you want it done faster?

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 12, 2025

Media Warns Of Civil War Following Charlie Kirk Assassination | Timcast IRL

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