Charlie Kirk was a 31-year-old comedian, writer, and supporter of President Donald Trump. He was shot and killed by a gunman in Annapolis, Maryland on the morning of 9/11. The media is quick to jump to the conclusion that this was an act of civil war.
00:03:22.000And I'm thinking to myself, this is insanity.
00:03:26.000Maybe people are panicking, they're on high alert.
00:03:29.000These universities where they were reporting shootings or bomb threats was because people are panicking and they're genuinely terrified following what happened to Charlie.
00:03:37.000But the media, of course, has already responded.
00:03:41.000With numerous outlets writing that fears of civil war are emerging, or that civil war is here or coming, or that even Donald Trump is fomenting it intentionally to steal the midterms.
00:03:54.000Videos are emerging of fights breaking out.
00:03:59.000People are not tolerating the rhetoric coming from these activists.
00:04:02.000In one video, a man with a sign that said Charlie deserved it was thrown into a fountain.
00:04:07.000Regular people are starting to snap over the actions of these progressives in the left.
00:04:14.000Donald Trump put out a statement last night talking about the radical left and their rhetoric.
00:04:21.000So to be honest, there was a lot of news to go over.
00:04:26.000What with these shootings, bomb threats, etc.
00:04:30.000There is also the FBI releasing an image of a person of interest, TMZ publishing a video that they say is of this person who appears to be walking strangely, perhaps because they were concealing a weapon, we're not entirely sure.
00:04:41.000But all of it seems wrapped up in the cultural phenomenon that is on X to millions of views.
00:04:50.000On Blue Sky to millions of views in the comments of our old shows that featured Charlie Kirk, these leftists are calling for an escalation.
00:04:59.000Certainly, there are people on the right that are saying this is war and war's here.
00:05:03.000One post has nearly 10,000, I think around 8,000 to 9,000 retweets saying that civil war is now.
00:05:13.000But what I will say is if you've paid attention to this show, we've discussed everything that brought us to this moment in the past several years, which we'll get into.
00:05:23.000Right now, of course, we fear the safety and security of our friends, our family, other personalities.
00:05:29.000And as much as I would have preferred to lead with any other story, I think this is the conversation that is happening.
00:05:40.000And so we just have to have that conversation.
00:06:00.000Um I will uh uh tell you what I do, so you don't have to ask.
00:06:05.000I'm uh ex-comedian, ex-writer uh in Hollyweird, and uh um I was uh at January 6th, which was a big uh blip and and caused me to not be what I was before.
00:06:20.000So um that's uh still uh my my plan to do that stuff, but uh now that that's over, uh pardoned and everything.
00:06:30.000So we'll see what uh the future holds.
00:06:34.000In fact, one of the articles, Mother Jones wrote that pardoned J6ers are calling for civil war in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:07:05.000Here's the story from the Independent.
00:07:07.000The reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder proves America is closer than ever to its next civil war.
00:07:13.000The most terrifying aspect of the current reality of the United States is not the assassination of the 31-year-old Trump activist, but how people have responded.
00:07:20.000Writes Stephen Marsh, author of The Next Civil War, as the sense of collective mourning no longer applies, this is a turning point for what comes next.
00:07:30.000He actually writes a pretty great article.
00:07:32.000He makes a great point, which uh I will read through this.
00:07:34.000I want to show you some of these other articles, where he says that even the cold-blooded murder in broad daylight of a 31-year-old man in front of his family was not enough to make these people recognize right from wrong.
00:08:24.000Concerns grow that bot networks may be amplifying calls for civil war after Charlie Kirk killing.
00:08:30.000And perhaps on social media, that is what we're seeing.
00:08:33.000This post on X, it says open carry now, civil war has begun.
00:08:38.000It has 5.8 million views and 8,400 retweets.
00:08:43.000We have uh this post from Common Dreams.
00:08:47.000This is a well-known activist organization that published the article saying is Trump inciting a Civil War 2.0 to steal the midterms.
00:08:58.000And then we have this from NDTV, Civil War Echoes.
00:09:03.000Sanjeev Sanyal warns U.S. resembles 18 uh April 1861.
00:09:09.000I want to read a little bit from the Independent, and then we can have this conversation.
00:09:12.000The reason why you know that we've talked about this quite a bit.
00:09:17.000I, of course, have talked about it, and I will say it, and I and I I wish I was wrong, but I was not wrong.
00:09:24.000And to all of the people who have continually denied what we have discussed on this show for the past several years, we have not been wrong.
00:09:33.000We've been relatively vague, and that's fair because we're not making heavy predictions.
00:09:40.000One of the one of the things that really irked me was in September of 2020, I stated on this show that were Trump to lose, these right wing people are going to rush the White House, they're gonna storm the White House, they are not going to just let this go idly by.
00:10:13.000Following this, people used my earlier accurate prediction on the left to claim I had foreknowledge of January 6th and should be criminally charged or investigated.
00:10:22.000In fact, I was just reading the news and making a prediction.
00:10:38.000There would be a battle between the governors and this and the and the federal government over control of the National Guard, and it will escalate.
00:10:45.000And that is exactly where we are right now.
00:10:47.000And every step of the way I said, I hope I'm wrong.
00:11:09.000I'm gonna read this from Stephen Marsh, who says At the time of writing, the suspect in the shooting of Charlie Kirk is still at large, and his motivations are unknown.
00:11:18.000But the identity of the killer and the reasons for killing hardly matter.
00:11:21.000Whoever they are, and whatever their intention, the fallout is utterly predictable.
00:11:26.000Political violence already surging will surge further.
00:11:29.000America will continue further down the road to perition of the uh of the republic.
00:11:35.000He says far more political figures have been murdered in American history than in the history of any other democracy.
00:11:41.000More than a quarter of U.S. presidents have either survived an assassination attempt or died at the hands of a killer.
00:11:46.000But in the past, each assassination of a president or a judge was treated as a collective national tragedy.
00:11:52.000It was understood that the violence perpetrated by whomever was a disaster for the body politic as a whole.
00:11:58.000Politics exists, after all, to save us from violence as a means of resolving disputes.
00:12:03.000The sense of collective mourning no longer applies.
00:12:06.000The reaction to Kirk's death instantaneously split American discourse.
00:12:11.000Here was a 31-year-old man murdered in broad daylight in front of his wife and children before a crowd of thousands at Utah Valley University.
00:12:19.000Americans could not agree that that was unacceptable.
00:12:22.000I don't want to promote or identify people on social media who crowd about the death like their team had just won a football game, but on my feeds at least, it was not limited to a few cranks or extremists.
00:12:32.000Quote, what about the children killed in Colorado?
00:12:37.000Anyone on the left who imagines the political assassination of their opponents is going to lead to more stability or a better America is seriously seriously diluted.
00:12:47.000A high profile individual, a liberal that I've known for 10 years, posted a video on their Instagram saying Charlie Kirk got what he advocated for.
00:12:58.000And I was shocked that they posted this.
00:13:01.000Because I genuinely thought that there was still reason left in some of these people, but I can't say that I feel that way, and I don't know what's going to happen.
00:13:11.000Now he goes on to add, journalists are now targets.
00:13:14.000The political class and judges have been under extreme threat since Trump took office.
00:13:18.000It's hard to even keep track of of it anymore.
00:13:21.000The former House Speaker of Minnesota and her husband were murdered in June.
00:13:24.000Amotov cocktail was thrown at the governor of Pennsylvania's house during Passover.
00:13:27.000And U.S. judges who sit on Trump cases regular regularly received pizzas delivered to them as an intimidation tactic.
00:14:01.000Now, there's much more that he writes about, but I don't want to uh just keep, you know, ranting myself.
00:14:07.000The point I think is clear, and you have seen it.
00:14:10.000The comments on social media on the left.
00:14:13.000There are tiers of this from the overt leftist calls for escalation, the publishing of videos from lesser-known personalities on TikTok, Instagram, and X saying you're one guy said you're next.
00:14:50.000So with that being the sentiment, that's that's one tier.
00:14:54.000The next tier are the people who are prominent liberals, high profile actors, high profile politicians, people like Ilhan Omar, for instance, who are coming out and saying, Yeah, well, maybe Charlie shouldn't have said hateful things.
00:15:10.000So you have the tacit liberal, Charlie got what he deserved attitude, and then you have the overt leftist, we're coming for the rest of you.
00:15:19.000I will give a shout out to the handful of prominent liberals who have condemned the violence.
00:15:23.000Many of the high profile Democrats have, and I respect that.
00:15:26.000And without naming them, because I don't want I don't seek to embarrass them.
00:15:29.000Some of them, some of these young liberals crying on camera over Charlie's death, talking about how bad it is.
00:15:36.000But with all of that being said, it's the sentiment we are seeing reeks of an untenable bifurcation in the body politic.
00:15:47.000We have said it on this show many times.
00:16:04.000And were his methods to have been permanently successful, the course of politics in this country was rooted in having a conversation.
00:16:14.000Across Louisville, there are graphics that have been drawn up in less than a day of pictures of Charlie Kirk that say debate this with blood spraying from his neck.
00:16:25.000I refuse to watch the videos of these people advocating for my death and the death of other people.
00:16:33.000Because I know it will just make me angry, and I already factually understand these people exist.
00:16:41.000I just fear that there is no backing down.
00:16:48.000And the only thing I can say is every direction I look and have looked over the past several years, this goes in one direction.
00:17:00.000Yeah, I mean, it certainly does feel like from the from the right wing's perspective that Arubicon was crossed.
00:17:05.000I mean, John Doyle had a vi viral tweet yesterday where he said, You just killed the last person in America that wanted to change your mind.
00:17:11.000And that's just the common sentiment you're seeing on the right, is we're saying this was the Olive Branch.
00:17:32.000He's had conversations about the fears of threats to his safety.
00:17:35.000But this was a man that so believed in the goodness of this country, despite the violence we had seen, that he was going out in public doing his events because of course none of us thought this was possible.
00:17:51.000Like one of the things that's really frustrating, um, at least to me personally, is in my mentions and stuff, replies on X because I've been tweeting up a storm about the whole situation, report like retweeting stuff.
00:18:04.000There's a lot of people that say, Oh, because I made a remark yesterday about, you know, I want the feds to use their authority and actually treat these people as if they're inciting.
00:18:14.000Um, and people are like, oh, well, you know, what happened to the First Amendment, what happened to the First Amendment?
00:18:41.000And I don't care when people tell me, oh, if you let the feds do something, they're gonna then they're gonna do it to you when next they're already gonna.
00:18:48.000Like if the Democrats get back into power, they're already going to throw people in jail.
00:18:53.000They're already going to change the laws to punish conservatives.
00:18:57.000Now I know there are people around the table that disagree with me, and that's fine.
00:19:00.000But the fact of the matter is, the right and people on the right have been treated as second-class citizens for at least 10 years.
00:19:10.000That you it has been where if you go out wearing a MAGA hat, you risk getting beat up for wearing for the wearing clothes.
00:19:18.000This is this is this is something that has been the norm for people on the right, and I'm just tired of it.
00:19:23.000So now that the right has the office of the presidency, has the Congress, has the Senate.
00:19:28.000I want the government to go after the people that are attacking people over their politics.
00:20:08.000There is uh how do you how do you possibly handle that?
00:20:11.000I just think that if Charlie somehow were given any foresight that this was going to happen, he wouldn't have changed a thing.
00:20:19.000And that's why I think that the solution isn't just more speech, although that that is gonna be the consequence.
00:20:28.000Um and I'm glad that people are going to feel emboldened to speak out because of this.
00:20:33.000The solution more importantly, is is a spiritual one.
00:20:38.000And people are coming to realize that would have taken years, many more years for them to come to um in the span of just a day or two days.
00:20:51.000Um and that one of them is is that we're living in the midst of very real spiritual warfare that's going on all around us and inside us that's mostly invisible, but yesterday it was visible.
00:21:06.000The perhaps the most radicalizing thing I could imagine was the the killing of Charlie Kirk.
00:21:13.000Was Trump the one that said it uh that he was a martyr, the perfect martyr?
00:21:31.000Trump said he is uh he's a martyr for truth and freedom.
00:21:36.000Um, I mean that remains to be seen because I mean, you're speaking of uh violence, uh begetting violence and the possibility of civil war erupting um or continuing, getting worse.
00:21:56.000Um, maybe that's not what's gonna happen.
00:22:00.000You know, watching the news today, seeing you know, the DNC had been evacu I think they evacuated over a bomb threat was deemed to be not credible.
00:22:15.000That's what's social collapse and governmental collapse or revolution, that that's what instability looks like.
00:22:21.000People uh I I make this point quite a bit, but they think it's all movies.
00:22:26.000They there are no fronts, you mean there's no no attacks.
00:22:32.000Everybody there there, yeah, there will be some, but uh if you take a look at the Syrian Civil War, uh, I've I've worked with people who are who are on the ground that have showed me their work.
00:22:49.000And so some of the people we worked with, in one instance, one of the uh circumstances, it's it was two guys with rifles hidden up in the back of a building in a standard market area, shooting people who walked by.
00:23:04.000They were they were uh a rebel faction that were attacking people deemed to be loyalists or government actors, agents or otherwise.
00:23:13.000So they're in an area that was controlled by the enemy, and it was just two guys.
00:23:17.000And so you're walking down the street, you're going to the market, and then all of a sudden you hear bangs, you have no idea where they're coming from, and people are falling.
00:23:23.000And when I turn on the TV, and every few minutes they're reporting some kind of conflict shooting, bombing, things like that.
00:23:32.000I'm not saying that we're in civil war.
00:23:34.000I'm saying that's what you can expect.
00:23:36.000If we were to enter one, it will not be battle fronts marching towards each other.
00:23:42.000They're not gonna say there's not going to be two groups that organize you know, Congress, you know, internal the people's republic and the liberal.
00:23:55.000But it's not going to be the North and the South.
00:23:57.000That that's not what civil wars look like.
00:23:58.000And Americans are plagued by our history into believing that's what a civil war is.
00:24:02.000But every see the the issue was you had in the American Civil War sovereign states that were debating with each other, and those sovereign states had armies, and they could negotiate as power structures amongst each other.
00:24:17.000In almost every single civil war ever, random factions emerge in various areas.
00:24:22.000Partisans, it's not a unified front in any meaningful way.
00:24:25.000That's like Syria, for instance, or Spain or Russia.
00:24:28.000And so what we're likely to see now, after everything we've seen, and I'm going to stress this again, as I've said every time, the time travel test I call it, go back ten years and tell people where we are today.
00:24:44.000Someone will have shot the president in the head, fortunately, by turning it, it would have only grazed his ear.
00:24:48.000Another man will have gone to his golf club, uh, aiming a his golf course aiming a rifle, trying to kill him, that trial ongoing now, that there would have been the January 6th, the storming of the Capitol, the riots, the protests, the George Floyd riots, the firebombing of St. John's Church in the White House, the January 6th committee, the arrest of Donald Trump, the prosecution of Donald Trump, the accusations of insurrection and sedition, et cetera, the 21 years in prison for the Proud Boys.
00:25:15.000If you went back 10 years, and every day, this story gets crazier.
00:25:21.000If you went back 10 years and said, here's 10 years in the future, nobody would believe you.
00:25:26.000And the funny thing about it is, the proof is in that six months ago, no one well, I shouldn't say nobody believed me, but six months ago, people thought, I hope you're wrong, Tim.
00:25:37.000I don't there are people that told me I couldn't happen.
00:25:39.000Two years ago, they said, ah, Tim's crazy, he's screaming civil war.
00:25:43.000And today, many of the general predictions that I made have happened.
00:25:49.000Up to one of the worst moments I could have possibly I couldn't possibly imagine that I didn't think was possible, but was implied in what we were discussing.
00:25:56.000And what I fear next, because I can see these videos that people are posting about Charlie, I can see the images they're making of him.
00:26:05.000The the the images that I am not going to share on this show, but are easily found on YouTube, where they are putting up these cartoon images of Charlie Kirk.
00:26:15.000It says, debate this with blood spraying from his neck.
00:26:19.000They are reveling, gloating, and these are not bots.
00:26:22.000These are real people celebrating the murder of a man who was engaged in democracy as they claim to want.
00:26:31.000And here's what I fear, and I would tell people, cooler heads must prevail.
00:26:37.000Victory will come through the fact that Donald Trump was a friend of Charlie Kirk and is our president.
00:26:42.000Many members of Congress were friends with Charlie Kirk and are in control, though it's slim.
00:26:48.000And there are there are many prominent liberals who are terrified of what it means to be on the wrong side of this.
00:26:54.000Some of them crying on their shows today.
00:26:57.000With that being said, my fear is that there are many people who are inspired by Charlie Kirk who feel like they have nothing to lose because they are young men with no jobs, no wives, no girlfriends, no prospects, and they watched Charlie's content.
00:27:11.000He had millions of followers, they went to his events.
00:27:15.000And what will that person who looked up to Charlie feel when they see some guy with 15 million views on X, posting that he's happy, posting that he would have done it himself, given the opportunity, and posted that he will do it again.
00:27:33.000There are people that are making videos saying there's more to come, and they're posting lists of names.
00:27:38.000My fear is that there's way too many people, as Rudyard Lynch has pointed out, that are young, listless men that feel they have no purpose who have just been pointed in a dangerous direction.
00:27:50.000I mean, that's that's that's the thing is we know what could come next.
00:27:54.000I mean, we don't know the specifics, but we know there's gonna be a lot of bloodshed potentially, and that's the horrifying thing, and that's why it's so frustrating seeing so many, especially Republicans like tone police thrown inside and say, guys, no, we need peace and unity right now.
00:28:07.000And it's like they they just shot Charlie Kirk.
00:28:10.000We want, like Phil is saying, we want the feds to break this to nip this in the bud because we know the future we're heading down, we know what road we're heading down, and there's no peace and unity of people that want to kill you for having vaguely conservative takes.
00:28:24.000What I am calling for is the federal government to do what it is there to do.
00:28:31.000Find the terrorists that will do this to other conservatives and put them in jail.
00:28:37.000And my saying I I don't I'm not so much worried about right wing men, uh, listless young men who might have looked up to Charlie Kirk being radicalized into considering violence from this.
00:28:52.000I think it's actually something that's just going to embolden people on the left to commit more acts of violence, and still, even now the people who are being tone policed by their own side are still only calling for justice through the proper channels because they're good people, because they have scruples and they have morals.
00:29:58.000It I don't know what to say, I don't know who to say would be better, but uh, I just don't know if that's the way.
00:30:05.000I don't think there's any other way out besides the federal intervention, quite frankly.
00:30:09.000The federal government must, but the outcome to that equation is kindergarten arithmetic.
00:30:18.000The only solution that we have before us is law enforcement.
00:30:22.000But when you are in a country that has a bifurcated culture where, as Stephen Marsh put it, they can't even agree on a 31-year-old man murdered in cold blood in broad daylight in front of his family, when Donald Trump says we cannot live like this, and we will have law enforcement against domestic terrorism, each and every one of you know what their response is going to be.
00:31:00.000They're gonna say, and this is how democracy dies to thunderous applause, and they're gonna call themselves the heroes, and they're gonna call themselves the Jedi.
00:31:09.000Whatever fictional Harry Potter reference they can make, they'll make.
00:31:13.000And then they will go to scared, old people who watch CNN, as CNN, let me show you this.
00:31:23.000When CNN covered the story about the transgender and antifa ideology on the weapons, they omitted that information and called it cultural issues.
00:31:34.000Then Seth Moulton went on CNN and said 74% or some number cut of violence comes from the right and only four from the left, which is a fake made-up statistic.
00:31:45.000And the CNN viewers are sitting there saying, yes, this was a one random thing, but the right's really the problem.
00:31:51.000When Donald Trump responds by saying we will not tolerate seditious violence, murder, assassinations, the CNN viewer is primed for the progressive to go to them and say, see, we warned you.
00:32:07.000And that's what we predicted last year.
00:32:10.000I don't see any other path forward for Trump.
00:32:14.000Because what we're saying is use law enforcement as legally empowered to do.
00:33:07.000Media is writing about it, claiming Donald Trump is pushing it to win the midterms, as we showed you uh with that common dreams article.
00:33:14.000Mother Jones is claiming Jan Sixers are preparing for civil war.
00:33:19.000Stephen Marsh, who wrote the book, The Next Civil War, is published in the independence saying this is exactly what we've warned you about, and we've never been closer.
00:33:28.000There are a lot of people, prominent personalities that are going to say, stop, no, and don't talk about it.
00:33:36.000The unfortunate reality is, as Google proves here, everyone is talking about it.
00:33:42.000Whether anyone wants to admit it, the conversation has been happening across social media.
00:33:46.000Though the yesterday, I think the most common word saw on YouTube was the word war.
00:33:50.000And I saw people getting pissed off, conservatives saying, stop saying that.
00:33:55.000I looked at the comments of some of these progressive YouTubers.
00:33:58.000War war war war war war what were just every every other word.
00:34:13.000I mean, this is the craziest I've ever seen it.
00:34:17.000Yeah, I mean, to your point, like I don't think that anyone here is would disagree with your estimation of what the left will do in response.
00:34:38.000Trump must use the law enforcement that he had, that law enforcement powers he has.
00:34:42.000The federal government, the DOJ, Cash, Dan, Pam Bondi, uh, Christy No, DHS, they must use their legally authorized authorities to stop violent crime like this.
00:35:24.000Many people are upset over the mass illegal immigration.
00:35:27.000So Trump says we will enforce the law.
00:35:30.000Trump has used only the law as is granted to him, and every step of the way they've claimed what he's doing is illegal.
00:35:37.000They have lied about everything, from who is responsible for political violence to defending an adjudicated MS-13 gang member accused of beating his wife and charged with human smuggling.
00:35:49.000They have called him but a Maryland father.
00:35:52.000So when Trump says I have to deport the narco gang member, they go On CNN on MSNBC and in these activist circles, and they look at the ignorant masses and say Trump just arrested an innocent Maryland father and is sending him to a supermax prison to be tortured.
00:36:13.000So you know what the response is going to be.
00:37:22.000It's entirely possible that this moment, there is a strong probability tomorrow, the left is completely banned, shunned, and ostracized because we are seeing prominent progressives, some speak out against this, but we are seeing prominent Democrat leaders condemn this.
00:37:40.000There was booing in Congress over prayer for Charlie Kirk, so it's it's hard to know for sure.
00:37:45.000There is a strong possibility that this event is so shocking that even Democrats just say, leave me out of this and tell the left, you're on your own, and then big tech cracks down and purges these people and they are shunned and ostracized.
00:38:00.000However, what I will add is in Stephen Marsh, Stephen Marsh's article for the Independent, he points out that as he was writing his book, The Next Civil War, January 6th happened, and he got a call from a friend who said, sorry about your book.
00:39:45.000Um anyway, sorry, you were saying that.
00:39:47.000No, yeah, well, I was just saying they can't half bake this.
00:39:50.000They have to come down as hard as humanly possible because you can't, like I was saying earlier, you can't leave any power on the table.
00:39:55.000You can't let you can't leave them a weapon to grab because they've demonstrated now they're willing to go there, they're willing to take out Charlie Kirk.
00:40:02.000And like I said, Charlie Kirk's politics represent probably a majority of Americans because it's very sensible conservative politics.
00:40:09.000They and they say they say the penalty for holding those beliefs is death.
00:40:12.000So no, we they can't have big and save the coming hard and end this forever.
00:40:15.000You know, the Yankees had that uh moment of silence, I think it was a moment of silence for Charlie.
00:40:21.000Uh I saw that in Vegas, at least one marquee putting up a memorial for Charlie.
00:40:26.000The New York Times on on their on their header bar of their site had a small memorial for for Charlie Kirk.
00:40:33.000I am hoping that this was so genuinely shocking that many of the mainstream institutions step back and say, leave me out of this.
00:40:43.000Without naming some of these liberals, I don't know if you guys saw the uh the videos of them crying, bawling their eyes out.
00:40:51.000And we had we were talking about it, and uh, I think it was Kellen who was saying, I think maybe they realized just what they've been advocating for or or directing, and maybe they're realizing this is not a game anymore.
00:41:04.000You know, Hassan apparently was was very cognizant of the fact it was reported by the New York Times that he was telling his fans to stop cheering for this because he's next.
00:41:14.000He is the he is the target on the left.
00:41:16.000Charlie is the target on the right, and he does not want that.
00:41:20.000And at the same time, he was still spreading this rhetoric about how point scoring off of it.
00:41:49.000Well, and I think I don't think they were horrified.
00:41:51.000I mean, they're horrified and shocked, obviously, but they're horrified because they realized what they've been ratcheting up, what pressure they've been ratcheting up could happen to them.
00:42:59.000And it's the same reason that the GOP and Republicans have been getting, you know, crapped on by the by Zoomers because they're the do-nothing Republicans.
00:43:10.000They don't, you know, they won't ever stand up, blah, blah, blah.
00:43:12.000Because it's, you know, the reason why um Roe vs.
00:43:16.000Wade took so long to overturn is because the Republicans went about it the right way.
00:43:21.000They got enough presidents to put enough votes on the court and then got the got the uh got Roe brought back in front of the court.
00:43:49.000It's annihilate the enemy, it's destroy them.
00:43:52.000It's leave no survivors, win at all costs, and destroy them.
00:43:57.000But it takes so long for the right to get there because it seems like the right actually has a real honest, in touch understanding of the horror of that perspective.
00:44:09.000Whereas the left is like, well, I'm gonna go beat this person up, and if I can get them to do what I want now, well then it then it's fine.
00:44:16.000It's just as simple as people on the right believe in the dignity of the human person.
00:44:21.000And when they're given the opportunity to point score, which they were given uh with the death of Irina Zarutska, and also that poor little girl in in Scotland who was being harassed by a migrant, they had the opportunity to politically point score about it and say, Well, they voted for it.
00:44:40.000And I'm not saying that no one said that, but certainly I saw no prominent right wing voices repeating that.
00:45:24.000Charlie's casket now on the move through Arizona being escorted by a large motor kid.
00:45:28.000He is receiving the presidential level send-off he deserves.
00:45:31.000Donald Trump has stated he will be posthumously rewarding him the presidential medal of freedom, which he he absolutely deserves.
00:45:40.000And so uh it's just incredible to see the uh the respect and uh just the I guess the the honor and the dignity and the response that we're getting from the US government for for Charlie.
00:46:07.000Is that that's not Steven Miller, I don't think, no.
00:46:11.000And it just shows it shows what a lion and and Titan Kirk was.
00:46:15.000Because I mean he wasn't just a comment, like he'd built turning point from the ground up and he had single-handedly occupied and reinvented the mainstream.
00:46:30.000This is what I've been telling people is like no one else, no one else was willing to show up to Utah Valley University on a Wednesday afternoon.
00:46:39.000That's just how he operates because he genuinely views America's youth as underserved, undertapped, and he wants to be the guy that matriculates bright young right wing conservative Christians, people, and he wants to, you know, turn them into viable future leaders and and assets for the movement.
00:46:54.000And there's just such a massive void now that's left in this movement that cannot cannot be replaced.
00:47:00.000It just it straight up cannot be replaced.
00:47:01.000There are a lot of posts on X from uh young Gen Z guys who say that their lives were turned around by turned around by Charlie.
00:47:09.000Uh stories of being kind of just listless, perhaps, not knowing what they were their purpose was, not knowing where they were going in life, and they went to these turning point events and it lit a fire within them, and they started working towards goals and bettering themselves and improving themselves, and that and that was it.
00:47:26.000And what I find truly remarkable is over the past ten years, any figure that emerges that inspires young men is attacked mercilessly by the narrative machine.
00:47:37.000Jordan Peterson being one of the first, where they called him a Nazi and alt-right, and it's the weirdest thing because that dude's fairly liberal in a lot of ways.
00:47:47.000You know, he was so center, just I mean, he's he's he's a Canadian.
00:47:54.000You can't even be far right and be Canadian.
00:47:57.000You know, he was a moderate center guy that just said, I'm not gonna listen, I'm not gonna just bow down to you telling me that I have to use words that you're demanding.
00:48:10.000You are not going to select the words that I use.
00:48:14.000You will not, I will not bend the knee to that.
00:48:16.000That was it, and that made him a Nazi.
00:48:18.000Insane, totally insane to say you won't use the words that we demand you use, so you're a Nazi.
00:48:26.000And it was the fervor that he inspired in young men that terrified him, terrified them more than just his own ideas.
00:48:32.000But that came after they're so afraid of the potential that exists in young men that they have not only physical power, but the the ability to be so singularly focused and willing to take risks and willing to self-sacrifice.
00:48:52.000That's another thing that Charlie Kirk deserves so much credit for.
00:48:56.000And another thing that's remarkable about him, which shouldn't be remarkable in politics, but it is, is that he's just uncomplicated.
00:50:03.000A woman posted that she has a guy friend who started getting red pilled, she called it, and all of a sudden he didn't want to uh he was not feminist anymore, he wasn't gonna go along with her ideas, and she said, quote, he is cock blocking himself.
00:50:24.000A young man told a woman that he worked with he wasn't going to blindly agree with her so that she would give him sex, that he cared more about truth than getting laid, and what she revealed was she used manipulative tactics and sex to get what she wanted from this man.
00:50:40.000It's a re it's an insane revelation that he was turned around by researching, learning, and changing his life, and outside of just these young men are voting for Trump, it's these young men are waking up.
00:51:10.000And that that's absolutely pet absolutely petrified to left the Matt Walsh put it perfectly today, where he said there's not a bigger compliment for your career than the fact that leftists are in jubilation over your death, because that means that you were a genuine threat and that they're celebrating that he's leaving the ring.
00:51:31.000And without him, who knows where we be.
00:51:33.000The press conference is set for 9 30 p.m.
00:51:38.000I had uh a crazy moment today, which is just I can't believe it.
00:51:44.000Because I was just hanging out with my wife and my daughter, and we were just going over basic family stuff, and we were having a conversation that was just like I don't want to be too in detail because of security reasons, but it was basic stuff, like we're gonna go to the post office.
00:52:02.000And my wife looked at me and said, They just killed Charlie.
00:52:08.000And I was just it's like it's impossible for me to believe it.
00:52:13.000It's horrifying and still hard to believe.
00:52:15.000Like when I pulled up this image, this this video from Nick Sorter, and they there's a hearse driving in a vehicle, and I'm like, how is this?
00:52:22.000I my brain is just my my emotional centers are saying Charlie is not dead.
00:52:31.000And I'm I I I cannot exist in a world where I'm watching a video where a car is driving the corpse of Charlie Kirk.
00:53:14.000I I you know, I turn the news on, and every 15 minutes it's you know, updates on the Charlie Kirk assassination, and then uh they'll talk about Poland or these other stories, and it's just instant dial tone.
00:53:29.000There's just there's just nothing there when they are talking about, you know, oh, Trump's response over Poland and uh even the story in Annapolis, yeah, it just doesn't register.
00:53:42.000It there's there's no story I could see anywhere.
00:53:45.000I just exit out, close it out, nothing none of it, none of it, it's not real.
00:53:48.000This is the only thing that I that we're we're thinking about, and we're you know, hopefully by next week we'll just be, you know, I guess grieved, chilled a bit, and then we can figure out how things are are are moving forward.
00:54:05.000Right now, I mean, I'm talking to friends and it's a scramble.
00:54:21.000I mean, it's the amazing thing, like talking to a lot of my friends in the space that are that are active politically, and everyone he talked to who none of them have any tie-ins together, and Kirk had an iron in the fire with every single one of them.
00:54:33.000That's why he was just always working, always just project after project after project.
00:54:38.000So it's like even beyond turning point.
00:54:40.000I'm talking to guys that probably don't even have any idea of who each other are.
00:55:03.000Sean Spicer was talking today on uh on one of the shows that he's on, and he was saying that he was looking back through some of his texts with Charlie, and every single time he asked Charlie for anything, Charlie said yes.
00:55:22.000And it, and and that that's what I was explaining the other day.
00:55:25.000That the things that Charlie did to help out, us here at Tim Cast and our crew and turning point USA, it was always yes.
00:55:35.000And and that's how I was saying, I was like, Re really?
00:55:38.000Like, he asked me for nothing in return.
00:55:41.000And I remember uh, you know, this past year at Turning Point, they tell me, like, we're gonna we're gonna bring up to the stage, stand right here, we'll give you your cue, then you'll walk out.
00:55:52.000And I just walk out, I don't know what's going on.
00:55:54.000And then I saw the video later of like they made this montage of me playing on all these screens everywhere, and I'm like, I can't believe how much they I was like, wow.
00:56:05.000I didn't realize how much work and effort they were putting into having me there.
00:56:12.000It's uh that I was explaining the other day that when uh I had talked to Charlie and the TPSA team about us going out and joining them on stage.
00:56:20.000It was very much a we can't because we do the show every day, and there's no time to travel unless we flew on the weekend, and if we fly on the weekend, and then how do we do the show Monday, Tuesday?
00:56:30.000You know, it's it doesn't seem possible.
00:56:31.000And they said, uh, we'll take care of it.
00:56:33.000We'll take care of your team, we'll take care of you, and we'll build you a studio.
00:56:46.000Um, I think what what you you you uh you hosted one of the shows is that what happened?
00:56:50.000It's been it's when we were out in in Yeah, like I left in the morning, I think, and then you did you it was Friday.
00:56:57.000Yeah, yeah, I host one of the shows, and then I flew out the next day so that way I could be there because Right, right, right.
00:57:02.000So we didn't need the studio this year.
00:57:04.000But uh getting to be on stage, one of the one of the greatest memories of my life is each and every uh show that we did the past three years with Turning Point.
00:57:13.000Um, but most uh notably not last year, but the year before with Tucker Carlson and uh uh Charlie both uh honoring me coming on my show, and I get to I get to hang out with these two Titans was absolutely incredible.
00:57:26.000And it was through Charlie's goodwill and great effort to get me and our team there to make that happen and asking us for nothing in return.
00:57:37.000Which was just the crazy it's one of the craziest things.
00:57:40.000There's so many people that always want something from you, you know.
00:57:44.000No, he he apparently was just giving everybody stuff, helping them out, helping them be better versions of themselves, helping them uh succeed in their endeavors, and running a business and starting a family, you know, and having a seemingly happy married, married life, you know, like and not doing cocaine to do all of it.
00:58:18.000He says he was subpoenaed by the ATF after he revealed alleged details about an investigation into the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
00:58:23.000In a Thursday morning post on X, Crowder claimed to have received an email from an officer at the ATF.
00:58:28.000The message included what he said were details about a weapon and cartridges located by an ATF and other law enforcement near the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting at Utah Valley State University.
00:58:38.000All cartridges have engraved warning on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
00:58:43.000The New York Times later suggested that law enforcement officials had walked back this claim.
00:58:46.000A senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation cautioned that the report had not been verified by ATF analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence and might turn out to have been misread or misinterpreted.
00:58:57.000On Thursday afternoon, Crowder revealed that his company had been subpoenaed.
00:59:01.000I will also stress the Wall Street Journal corroborated this with an individual uh involved in the investigation.
00:59:08.000That being said, as I I stated earlier, I stated in the morning, this is preliminary.
00:59:14.000The statements on uh transgender um ideology, take it with a grain of salt, but Crowder's reporting is is like is is very, very likely accurate, very credible.
00:59:24.000He's reported on uh leaked information from law enforcement before this turned out to be accurate and correct.
00:59:29.000However, as much as Crowder verified the identity uh and the authenticity of the documents, it doesn't mean that the internal document itself written by the feds is true and correct.
00:59:42.000However, I think based on uh, you know, Wall Street Journal, and and there's been others that have corroborated this, and not just through this post, but they said through people involved in the investigation investigation, I think that's likely the case.
00:59:55.000My concern is with these New York Times saying it's being walked back, is that they're not actually walking it back.
01:00:02.000They're just saying it may have been misinterpreted.
01:00:04.000Okay, so it may not have been misinterpreted.
01:00:06.000So when we have multiple sources saying this is what it expressed, maybe you're wrong.
01:00:24.000And uh I I would also add, based on the internet sleuthing of 4chan, it corroborates this report as well.
01:00:32.000So again, it is also it's very early and subject to change we don't know entirely.
01:00:36.000But I believe that uh 4chan had begun aggregating information pertaining to the shooter evidence and things linking, uh, various posts online that linked to a a single individual.
01:00:49.000And I believe they've uh uh found an individual who made a post predicting the death of Charlie Kirk at this age.
01:01:07.000And so uh this individual, I believe, was also transgender and lived in the area.
01:01:13.000So they then published a name and lined up the images that they found of this person with the images released by the FBI of their person of interest.
01:01:24.000And so that's what they're going on right now.
01:01:26.000Sometimes the internet gets things wrong.
01:01:27.000To be honest, 4chan actually has a really good track record.
01:01:32.000And it's because 4chan is just a forum of tons of people all doing a little bit.
01:01:38.000So it's not that you know 4chan itself is uniquely empowered.
01:01:44.000It's that active people on a forum constantly investigating with knowledge of computers and research tend to figure these things out.
01:01:54.000Well you're seeing a lot of a lot of posts, and this is obviously all speculation, but you're seeing a lot of posts the day before the shooting from other transgender people in the area of the shooting saying tomorrow's gonna be a big day or sending threats to Charlie Kirk.
01:02:13.000So there's also a lot of people speculating that perhaps the shooter had made this plans known, perhaps in Discord or something like that beforehand.
01:02:22.000But this the sh the shooter obviously um, you know, if this is if there's any credence to this is was obviously bold and and and boisterous about what their plans were beforehand, what his plans were, presumably.
01:02:35.000Um I think it's very very obviously uh uh organized.
01:02:42.000The, you know, it's fascinating when people talk about this being a professional hit, and there are these theories about Charlie wearing a steel plate, which he was not, and there's uh I'm hearing a lot of people say, like, how did he escape?
01:02:56.000And I'm like, I don't know, humans on what what is it like a uh a moderately trained human runs a six-minute mile?
01:03:03.000So within a minute, this dude's jumping off the uh running on the stairs, running through the building, jumping down, and how many how many miles could he be away in 15 minutes?
01:03:16.000That means three thousand people who were like, I am getting the hell out of Dodge.
01:03:22.000So this individual cover gets off the roof, runs to a wooded area, ditches the weapon, and then takes off their hood and mask or whatever they were wearing, and now they instantly look like someone else.
01:03:36.000So even if you track this person from surveillance cameras into the wooded area with all of the people running around, all they had to do was wait for a group of people to be walking by and walk out with them.
01:03:49.000Yeah, I mean, you also saw a lot of these leftists after the assassination attempts or attempts on on Trump saying, get it right next time or this, that just really horrible things.
01:03:59.000So you know that's going through the mind through a lot of these sickos is like I'm gonna be the one that gets this right this time.
01:04:04.000And I'm and so they're getting more meticulous, more um prudent, and that's a really horrifying thing is that this can happen and he can get away, I mean, get away and not get picked up right away.
01:04:18.000I mean, that's an absolutely petrifying thing.
01:05:16.000So for those that aren't familiar, uh someone tracking uh flight radar.
01:05:21.000A private jet took off what was it uh like an hour or or like almost immediately after the shooting and then it dropped off radar before returning.
01:05:43.000They turn off uh their transponders, it's not their transponder, they turn off, but they they drop off radar, and this is standard wealthy people hiding their their their flight path from you know stalkers or whatever.
01:06:33.000Did you see what they're doing on the on Reddit?
01:06:35.000Techniques on Reddit, all of the top songs on R/slash Music are insulting Charlie Kirk.
01:06:43.000So like one example is the song That's What You Get by Paramore is a top song.
01:06:49.000There they're yeah, there's one that's called I think one called it one's called Charlie's Death or something like that.
01:06:54.000They're they're submitting this this is the terrifying thing.
01:06:58.000They're submitting songs with titles that poke at the assassination of Charlie, and the community itself, a decentralized group are up voting all of these songs.
01:07:10.000I wonder if I can pull that up actually.
01:07:14.000Well, I mean, it doesn't it doesn't help when you have elected politicians setting the tone that you know his rhetoric, you know, is problematic and these sorts of things, so it's like, okay, we need to tone down the rhetoric.
01:07:24.000So they're already setting the tone that having conservative principles is beyond the pale.
01:07:28.000So the fact that the more extreme ends are Are are calling for this is not a surprise at all.
01:07:32.000I mean, there's zero tone policing happening on the left or virtually no tone policing.
01:07:36.000Um it's called good by this is insane.
01:08:49.000Mysterious author behind, quote, the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
01:08:53.000A book that appeared on Amazon, is titled The Shooting of Charlie Kirk, but it w it has a published date of September 9th, the day before Charlie died.
01:09:07.000So uh I'll just make it pretty easy for you guys.
01:09:10.000There's a conspiracy theory going around that this was a pre-planned event, that it's some kind of deep state or conspiracy.
01:09:17.000Many people are sharing this saying, how is this possible?
01:09:34.000Then yesterday, seeing that there's a chance to monetize to capitalize on it and with better SEO, updated the book that was already there with a new title.
01:09:44.000It's called The Shooting of Charlie Kirk.
01:09:46.000And what's happening is across Amazon, these books are all AI generated.
01:09:51.000So people are going onto AI programs, telling it to write a book about what happened with Charlie Kirk's death and some biographical information, and then they're selling it.
01:10:02.000We live in a screwed up and nightmarish dystopia.
01:10:32.000Yeah, it's really easy to actually game the Amazon system.
01:10:35.000There's a YouTuber Max Fosh, and he does these like challenges and and and pranks and stuff.
01:10:40.000And he uh took his friends' text messages and put it into a the Amazon book portal or whatever to make a book, and then he put it in a really niche category.
01:10:48.000So then it only took like 10 people to buy that book and it became a bestseller right away.
01:10:52.000So it's like you can game this, you can game this so easy, and this AI stuff is clouding.
01:11:36.000Uh it's just I'm getting to the point where I'm just like exhausted with all the misery because of this, you know, like seeing.
01:11:44.000I feel like you know, a lot of it is just inflated because of the uh uh AI or just the bots, and uh it causes a uh a reaction on each side that inflates the inflation of it.
01:11:58.000So that we are um not we're not looking at actual uh reactions really.
01:12:06.000Uh they're just uh magnified by some beginning point that's already so much put into it, like so many examples of We have the uh the press conference is is uh getting set up at uh right now.
01:12:27.000So right now they're just setting up the TV and the podium and everything.
01:12:30.000So we'll just we'll just have this ready to go for when we get uh when we see them come on, but uh stay stay tuned and uh it'll be up when it's up.
01:12:43.000Um I was just uh gonna respond to to what you said, and I'm not saying that this is you, but many people are under a misapprehension that um if you just put your phone away uh and live in the real world and touch grass, etc.
01:12:57.000That you will be shielded from these sentiments.
01:13:01.000And this incident more than almost anything has proven that wrong.
01:13:07.000Because people are seeing their friends, family, colleagues, acquaintances, strangers just out in the world in public, reacting to this news with glee.
01:13:22.000And uh they're realizing they didn't know these people as well as they thought they did, and it's not online discourse, it's not just online discourse where people feel safe behind a profile picture.
01:13:35.000I feel I feel like the uh the prevalence of it, the the amount of it is causing um a surge in the reality of the way people are responding to it.
01:13:48.000They they're responding to what they think is happening, which is inflated by what happens online uh in our society now.
01:13:59.000Um the magnification of sentiment is uh you know, it's not to say that I don't believe people are are capable of being so horrific about this this event, I mean this thing that happened.
01:14:15.000I mean, just laughing and celebrating the streets with you know, signs, sandwich boards are wearing supporting this killing and you know, yes, sometimes uh outrage can be manufactured and amplified and magnified beyond what it really is,
01:14:38.000like, like maybe normal people in their daily lives like don't really care about what happens to the cracker barrel logo.
01:15:28.000If you're up if you're of the opinion that you're not able to coexist with the people that you share a country with, and you think that it's acceptable to do whatever because you'll make yourself the victim, you'll accuse them of all kinds of things, and you'll say, I'm a victim.
01:15:45.000They don't they don't they don't believe I exist, they don't acknowledge my existence, whatever whatever kind of garbage emotional manipulation the left wants to use or the leftist wants to use.
01:15:57.000If you're saying I can't exist with those people, and so I'm going to act out violently, then we put you in jail.
01:17:16.000These aren't crazy people, these aren't like schizophrenics or whatever.
01:17:19.000These are people that have come to this conclusion through through a collection of information that they've processed through a worldview and and have deemed this is correct.
01:17:28.000Like you we can't we can't outsource this to like yeah, some sort of mental illness.
01:17:32.000Like this, they have jobs and souls have been corroded.
01:17:38.000They have middle management jobs, they like send a few emails.
01:18:07.000You should get the full extent of the law.
01:18:08.000There are normie people at various jobs that people are aggregating that are posting this image...
01:18:13.000It is a cartoon of Charlie Kirk with blood coming from his neck and it says debate this.
01:18:18.000They are saying outright, if you try to have a dialogue that they will kill you.
01:18:23.000And these are not far left extremists that we we ex we expect to see in these activist organizations.
01:18:29.000The images that are being shared across social media, these are teachers, these are nurses, these are pilots, these are these are professors at universities, which we we kinda expect some radicalization.
01:18:37.000But I'm this this image is is they it's it's horrifying that someone drew this up and they are selling it on t-shirts, posting it all over the place at universities, and again, the terrifying uh aspect of it is that people on on X right now I'm reading, they're saying, here's a nurse.
01:18:54.000Here's what she posted on her Instagram.
01:18:58.000They are saying if you come to have a conversation, you die.
01:19:01.000We are we I don't know what what where where we go.
01:19:04.000I just hope the adequate and appropriate law enforcement does what it has to do to start putting a stop to this.
01:19:12.000The only reason that those images are not incitement to violence and death threats is because they already killed Charlie, which is the horrifying thing about it.
01:19:19.000If they took a picture of me or or any other personality or anyone in this room and it said debate this with blood spray, you could interpret that as a death threat.
01:21:08.000But last there was this intra-right debate going on about the uh woman um that Libs of TikTok, I believe, posted about um who worked at Home Depot who w was posting on Facebook about the assassination attempt against Trump.
01:21:26.000And I think she said something to the effect of uh like I wish that that it was successful.
01:21:32.000Um and then I believe it was libs of TikTok that ended up exposing her information and who she was and trying to get her fired.
01:21:40.000And I think Home Depot might have actually fired that woman.
01:21:44.000But there was at the time this very heated debate on the right about whether that was ethical and should we only be targeting people with public platforms who who whose job it is to comment on these things instead of just ordinary people who've had their minds raped by CNN.
01:22:02.000And now that this has happened, if they had the foresight of where we would be right now, there would be no debate about it.
01:22:08.000It's the ordinary people with nothing to lose that do things like we saw yesterday.
01:22:11.000Yes, it's not your streamers going out and doing this.
01:22:14.000These are these are the radicals at the bottom, like Tim's talking about it's people that have nothing to lose and they feel like okay, this is my way to get into the history book or whatever, or at the very least they just want to settle a score because of some perceived injustice that's been done.
01:22:27.000Or just ordinary evils like disowning family members, cutting off friendships.
01:23:18.000What what what happens when there's a random dude walking on the street in New York getting stopped by Don Lemon who says that he thought it was a good thing and then he's glad it happened?
01:23:26.000What what happens when people are posting on uh social media lists of names?
01:23:34.000You mean and there's no reaction to it.
01:23:35.000People say this is par for the course.
01:23:37.000When you have when you have a when you have a terrorist organization and they have a list of targets, you go into a room and you find seven people and they have weapons and a list of targets, you make an arrest.
01:23:45.000Who do you arrest when it's everyone in New York?
01:23:49.000And I'm not literally everybody, but Don Lemon walked down the street and was asking random people.
01:23:53.000Tons of these videos have popped up of Man on the Street interviews where people are going to universities and it's I know it's selectively edited.
01:24:00.000They're choosing, but there are people all over cheering for it and saying they want more.
01:24:06.000So the issue is the standalone complex.
01:24:16.000There's not a federal law enforcement to rise it, even if a hundred thousand people all stood outside, screaming out of their lungs, they intended to commit an act of violence.
01:24:23.000The federal government doesn't have the uh doesn't have the manpower to arrest those to arrest everybody.
01:24:30.000Yeah, I mean, it's if you create a hostile environment, like if you know you'll lose your job for for rattling off.
01:24:35.000You start with the eyes and then the anus because you have to go for the soft parts that you can.
01:24:41.000No, it's like I mean, a lot of people, because this is some people on the right.
01:24:44.000I mean, that's how we were boxed in for so long is because we were petrified of losing our jobs, petrified of this, that, and the other.
01:24:49.000It's like you just have to create that same hostile environment on the other side as if they realize that oh, there's actually ramifications for you know, bathing in blood like this, then they'll think twice about it.
01:24:58.000I mean, there's there's a lot of mechanisms that we haven't used yet.
01:25:33.000Well, I think anyone tell anyone tone policing the right right now, j uh uh just take a little hard long look in the mirror, reevaluate what your priorities are, because that I mean, that's just ridiculous after what what we've been through this last week, especially, but let alone yesterday.
01:25:48.000Yeah, like I said, about the past ten years.
01:25:56.000People are spamming the image of his wife dancing on his page with the phrase thoughts and prayers and one star reviews, and he's got uh his business used to be rated five stars, and now it is got one thousand one star reviews.
01:26:16.000They don't take those precautions at all.
01:26:18.000Government right didn't engage in cancel culture, didn't have the ability for the most part, didn't respond with violence ever or do anything.
01:26:26.000And that's why they all they all gloated and laughed and and mocked.
01:26:30.000And I think to these liberals that are crying on their shows now, it's because or Hassan, for instance.
01:26:35.000There's a video going viral right now that I don't think we can play.
01:26:38.000They say it's a montage of Hassan calling for violence against right wingers.
01:26:41.000Now he's panicking because he's realizing the game just started.
01:26:44.000And I mean the the game the figuratively, I'm saying what he advocated for, because he says in a video game, we should go do this in a video game.
01:26:54.000Yeah, the the feds should pick him up, denaturalize him and send him to Turkey.
01:27:39.000Like, what is the future of turning point as an organization?
01:27:43.000Obviously, nobody can fill Charlie Kirk's shoes, but someone will actually have to take over his position in that organization if it's to continue and we need it to.
01:27:56.000It's a really vital institution on the right.
01:27:58.000I mean, I was talking about it earlier, is like he he's taking a lot of conserv people that are already conservative, like they grew up in Republican homes, but he's giving them pathways into becoming assets for the movement, broadly speaking, and uh we need turning point.
01:28:18.000Milo has been uh he said, All right, I am unretiring, and he began uh posting many of these progressives celebrating the death of Charlie, and then uh reporting that they had been fired from their jobs.
01:28:33.000Yeah, he is the most recent one is uh the guy from there was a guy there was a pilot that was saying some disgusting things, and Milo informed his uh employer, and he is no longer employed.
01:28:44.000Milo is like the hatchet man for the right, so it's about time that he's back.
01:28:59.000The first time I met Milo is he went to Dartmouth College in New Hampshire and I drove up there to see the show and hang out and stuff, and he's a great he was awesome.
01:29:06.000Yeah, you we need guys like that, like uh lips of TikToks, excellent.
01:29:10.000Like you you need those people that are operating kind of where I mean where this leftist violence is coming from, like it's coming from these ordinary people.
01:29:18.000I mean, it's easy to, you know, go after these streamers or politicians or whatever, but it's like where the insurgency is gonna happen and where things are gonna get kinetic.
01:29:25.000That's where you need to be concentrating, concentrating um assets and resources.
01:29:29.000And so people like that, I mean, they're doing the Lord's work.
01:31:12.000He's not he's not the kind of guy that that says things that he doesn't mean.
01:31:17.000Everyone across the right knows what time it is.
01:31:19.000Like every I mean, like every phone call I had this morning with my friends at every level, you know, grassroots, whatever, they're saying the same thing, which is we have to do so much more.
01:31:28.000Like this is this Charlie's work is an indictment on us, like we could be giving so much more.
01:31:33.000Um while we're while we're waiting for the press conference, real quick, I want to play this clip.
01:31:38.000It should be starting any minute, but I want to play this from uh Ben Shapiro.
01:31:42.000On a sort of personal level, aside from knowing Charlie and believing that Charlie was a wonderful human being, is the fact that for 10 years, more than that, I went to college campuses, did the same thing that Charlie did.
01:31:56.000And I always said to my wife and to people around me, they would say, Well, you know, is it safe?
01:32:13.000I think that we've entered into a new world, a world where huge percentages of the American public by the polling are okay with violence against one another based on speech, where excuses are made, permission structures are created for murder because you disagree with the political position of another human being.
01:32:34.000I'm not sure how we get back, except by appeal to the exact values that Charlie stood for.
01:33:02.000Uh Carlo Magno says, Tim, are you pro-death penalty for Charlie's killer?
01:33:07.000You know what I said the other day when this question came up is that in a moment like this, it's almost impossible to be morally consistent.
01:33:15.000And uh someone quoted, I think it was like Alinsky, who said something to the effect that uh consistency I I forgot the quote was, but something like in politics there is no moral consistency.
01:33:29.000What I can what I can just say is um the difficulty is of course the uh attempt to destroy a nation.
01:33:40.000This is this is more than just another murder, another act of violence.
01:33:45.000This was a public display at a high profile political event in one of the most gruesome ways for with the intention to rip this country in half and burn it to the ground, which is substantially more devastating than just someone walking down the street and then you know, getting shot in the mugging or something.
01:34:05.000Uh which of course, even in like those kinds of murders, he typically don't get the death penalty.
01:34:10.000But there uh typically the death penalty is referred uh reserved for torturous murder in very extreme cases, and this is one of the most extreme cases ever.
01:34:19.000And the only thing I can say is when the officers came out and said that Utah has the death penalty, I said, okay.
01:34:27.000I I am typically against it because my concern Is you create a machine that allows for the state to decide when they kill somebody and the state will get it wrong.
01:34:37.000However, in the instance, the singular instance of Charlie Kirk's killer, I believe that what law enforcement deems appropriate, you know, let me just be fair, guys.
01:35:28.000My feelings on the matter are that of rage and a demand for retribution.
01:35:34.000My logic centers are regardless of the circumstances, a state that is that has the authority that you grant it to kill people ultimately will result in Kamala Harris as your executioner throwing other people like Charlie Kirk in the machine that you have authorized, and that that's what I fear.
01:35:53.000Uh so it is it is a difficult but good question.
01:36:06.000Like they're not going to say, well, you don't like it, so I don't like it either.
01:36:11.000That's the that is the overarching situation that we're in that the people on the right need to realize when we are when we are concerned about using the power that the right has access to, we must remember the left has no reservation like that.
01:36:32.000Did you all know that uh Charlie Kirk called black children a gift from God?
01:36:41.000You see, the actual context and circumstance is that a black woman with her child came to speak to Charlie at an event, and he asked her about her child and said, with a smile on his face, that is a gift from God.
01:36:53.000Now, the way I framed it, of course, was to make it sound like a more activisty statement about race.
01:36:58.000The reason I did that is because when he openly criticized Katanji Brown Jackson, the left took his quote out of context and claimed he was calling black women in general stupid.
01:37:10.000When Charlie Kirk saw an individual woman with a child and said, Your child is a gift from God with a smile on his face, and they both smiled and said thank you.
01:37:17.000I can decontextualize it and make it sound like he was praising all black people.
01:37:21.000The reality is Charlie was not a racist.
01:37:24.000They lie because they need to make you hate him.
01:37:27.000And when I mentioned there's a liberal friend of mine who on Instagram posted a video saying that Charlie got the world that he wanted, something to that effect.
01:37:37.000I guarantee you, I would bet all the money I got that this person who posted it never once listened to anything Charlie had to say.
01:38:07.000And seeing what happened to Charlie has them considering, you know, faith or religion.
01:38:13.000I was talking with Jack Posobiec, and I told him, I said, you know, Jack, the most compelling argument for religion to me is never the resurrection, because I don't know.
01:38:24.000I don't believe in the resurrection the way you do.
01:38:26.000But I know demons exist, because I've seen them.
01:38:31.000It is indescribable the evil that I've seen that defies human vices.
01:39:14.000So when they steal, you understand the human nature, an element of that.
01:39:19.000But I have seen politically and personally, people who have taken actions that serve only to destroy themselves and those around them with smiles and twisted grins, seemingly just for the purpose of pain, suffering, destruction, or uh uh desecration.
01:39:39.000And I couldn't comprehend why they would do it.
01:39:43.000The only exponent explanation is evil.
01:39:46.000Because if you were to look at a person who is good and they're trying to help you, you can always say, Well, look, he is trying to help you, but he knows that if you succeed, he succeeds, a rising tide lifts all ships.
01:39:56.000Oh, he's only helping you because he expects this, or you know, you're gonna own a favor, things like that.
01:40:03.000But what is the function of evil when when someone grabs a child and chucks them off a third floor of a mall.
01:40:13.000For just there's there's there's no benefit to themselves, there's no benefit to humanity.
01:40:17.000It only serves to cause pain to the individual.
01:40:22.000The individual who did it is is it is to be uh uh to suffer for it.
01:40:27.000And again, there's the argument of but they're mentally unwell.
01:40:31.000Many of these individuals you would argue are, but there are people who are seemingly functioning, logical, sane individuals who do things like this, and it defies logic.
01:40:42.000They are not behaving in a way that benefits even their own selfishness.
01:40:47.000They are taking an action that only destroys causes suffering to literally everyone themselves.
01:41:33.000And that's why trans people specifically seem to have this propensity towards violence and violent fantasies, because their entire existence is annihilation of self and radical rebellion against God.
01:41:48.000While we're waiting, because the the press conference, of course, is running late.
01:41:51.000We'll grab you a rumble rants and chat.
01:41:52.000So smash the like button, share the show.
01:41:54.000The uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10, perhaps, unless the press conference runs long.
01:42:00.000We will stay here for the breaking news.
01:42:03.000Shenitz Wilder says, I'll be leading a prayer space for Charlie and his family Sunday night at 8:30, 7:30 Central on X. We'll pray the Sacred Heart, Divine Mercy, and St. Michael's chaplet.
01:42:14.000All the Timcast family is welcome to join.
01:43:17.000Mr. Beebe says, can you look into the report Alex Jones put out about the New York Times headline from 9-9 about Charlie Kirk shooting?
01:43:23.000He said there were headlines on the on the way back machine, 19 hours before the incident.
01:43:28.000Indeed, because what these companies do is they write articles, then when news breaks, they go to the existing article, erase it, and rewrite it.
01:43:56.000It went viral on Reddit, for instance.
01:43:59.000It was like the number one, three and fifth most viewed articles of all time.
01:44:04.000And the next and then within like uh a day or so, they changed the article to an opinion piece about how misogynists had trampled feminism.
01:44:14.000So if you went on Reddit and you saw a headline that said Reddit CEO fired and clicked it, it would bring you to an opinion to an op-ed about feminism.
01:44:23.000That violates Reddit's rules and was unprecedented.
01:44:26.000I reached out to several moderators at the time and I asked them, I said, the rules for the subreddit subreddit is that the title of the post must be identical to the title of the headline.
01:44:36.000There is obviously some forgiveness if the if the if the title of the headline alters in only the most minimal of ways, like punctuation or articles.
01:44:45.000And uh there was some communication between the moderators.
01:44:48.000They were all shocked that the New York Times was doing this because of what it meant for Reddit as moderators, and they agreed to delete all the posts because they've they broke the rules.
01:44:58.000The New York Times did because they're trying to game Google to rip off the system and make money.
01:46:55.000He was from Arlington Heights, which is a northern suburb of the Chicago Land area, and someone posted um let me see if I can pull this up while we're still waiting for this press conference.
01:47:05.000I'll I'll keep the audio low so we can hear if it starts.
01:48:31.000I'm giving you latitude because you deserve it because this was your friend, and this is scary and it hurts, and it could have just as easily been you.
01:48:41.000And you'll never question me out, Chris, because I'll never dehumanize.
01:48:46.000If I hear that Joe Biden gets internal cancer diagnosis, if I hear that Joe Biden gets a terminal cancer diagnosis, I'll say a prayer for him.
01:48:53.000I'll say that I hope he lives the rest of his days painless.
01:48:57.000That's exactly what I said, and every person that I know and respect, and I know them all in my ecosystem said the same thing.
01:49:05.000Not a single one of us celebrated celebrated Joe Biden's terminal cancer diagnosis.
01:49:11.000Now I can show you an endless series of TikToks and celebration posts and t-shirts made celebrating this travesty.
01:49:21.000There is a fundamental difference of those who glorify death on the left.
01:49:25.000And it is demonic and it's dark and it needs to be disappointed.
01:49:34.000It is a fact in the mainstream political space that there are prominent liberals who scream into the camera that Trump is a threat, that we are a threat.
01:49:46.000There are prominent high-profile liberals who intentionally lie about all of us and smear us and claim that we're calling for violence.
01:49:56.000They posted videos where they said that Charlie Kirk wants you dead.
01:50:45.000People like Ilhan Omar, people like Matthew Dowd on MSNBC who said it must have been shooting their guns in celebration, which is psychotic because people don't do that, saying that he he said awful things and he got it.
01:50:59.000And that this happens all the time on the left at the highest levels.
01:51:04.000And I've got words for the young Turks, even, but I'm gonna cut them slack because they've turned around in recent history, but we all know it.
01:51:11.000We we know what Hassan Piker has said.
01:51:13.000The highest trafficked leftist streamer has a viral video right now that I cannot play because he as the video states, he is calling for violence against the right.
01:51:26.000I can't repeat some of the things he said.
01:51:48.000I was at a Patriot Prayer Proud Boys March in Portland.
01:51:53.000Antifa counter-protested, and Antifa was screaming racial slurs at the top of their lungs at the Proud Boys.
01:52:01.000Because there were black people and his and Latinos.
01:52:05.000And there was a black man who was with the Proud Boys who started fuming, broke from the crowd, and went to cross the street, and a white Proud boy ran up to him and grabbed him by the arm, turned him around and said, Stop listening to him.
01:52:22.000And it was the white leftists screaming the racial slurs.
01:52:25.000There's a video where they went to an ice facility screaming the N-word at police.
01:52:31.000So Chris Cuomo needs to pay attention and actually read about what's going on, but I'm not surprised the guy who faked having COVID and lied about it to this day would have no integrity.
01:52:43.000It looks like they may be getting ready for this press conference.
01:52:45.000We're still waiting, but we'll stick with it.
01:54:11.000I am the communications director for the Utah Department of Public Safety.
01:54:14.000This evening we have FBI Director Patel, FBI Deputy Director, Dan Bongino, Special Agent in Charge, Robert Bowles, Governor Spencer Cox, Lieutenant Governor Didra Henderson, and Commissioner Anderson, as well as I'm so sorry, Commissioner.
01:54:33.000Commissioner Bohemson, as well as some local partners here present with us today.
01:54:40.000Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us here uh tonight.
01:54:43.000We appreciate the media and uh the partnership we have with you in helping us to get information out to the public so that we can uh we can catch this assassin and uh and hold him accountable.
01:54:56.000Uh we uh we are going to uh to share uh a portion of a video and that that we have of the uh of the the suspect as well as some new stills of those have already been released, uh, but we want to make sure that they get as much attention as possible so that we can get help from uh from the public in uh in tracking down uh this uh this this evil human being.
01:55:21.000So we're we're going to uh we're going to cue up the video right now, show that.
01:55:25.000I've asked uh Commissioner Bo Mason if he would narrate to you what is happening in this video.
01:55:33.000Thank you, Governor Bo Mason, Commissioner for the Utah Department of Public Safety.
01:55:39.000If you look up to the top left, you'll see the the building where the shooter uh was chromed out in the top left corner.
01:55:45.000We'll go ahead and play that video and I'll narrate it as we walk through that.
01:55:51.000So here you see that the suspect ran behind that upper upper building is gonna come out on the right, moves to this far right corner.
01:56:04.000As he does, he's gonna climb off the edge and then drop down to the ground.
01:56:09.000As he did that, he left some palm impressions, um, there's some smudges and some places we're looking to collect DNA.
01:56:16.000There's a shoe imprint where we believe the suspect is clearly identified as wearing converse tennis shoes.
01:56:23.000Again, we'll replay that again so you can get another view of that.
01:56:28.000It's important to note his black t-shirt, his black pants, um, and there is appears to be some white on the soles of those converse tennis shoes.
01:56:36.000Those are all identifiable items that we're looking for in the steels that are gonna follow this.
01:56:42.000You're gonna see a very distinctive t-shirt with an American flag and appears to have an eagle on it.
01:56:46.000There's also a baseball cap with a triangle on it, and a pair of sunglasses, all distinctive, all things that we would ask the public to look for and try to uh identify if they know someone who is has those items, who has been seen wearing those items, we're looking for all that information.
01:57:04.000Here you see the suspect after dropping off the building.
01:57:06.000He moved around across this grass area, around the parking lot.
01:57:20.000After he crosses the street, this is where he moves over into the wooded area.
01:57:26.000This is the uh video evidence that we we utilize to track his movements and to locate that firearm in that wooded area following the discovery of this evidence.
01:58:44.000I'll turn time back over to Governor Cox.
01:58:48.000Thank you so much, uh Commissioner Mason.
01:58:50.000I want to uh I want to thank Director Patel and his team.
01:58:54.000It's great to have them on the ground with us tonight.
01:58:56.000Uh we've had several briefings and uh he's had an opportunity to uh to walk the crime scene.
01:59:01.000Uh we uh we appreciate uh our our local law enforcement here.
01:59:05.000Again, we have uh we have Mike Smith who is the uh the county sheriff here.
01:59:10.000We have all of our local uh local chiefs of police that are here as well, all working hand in hand with the state and with the FBI as we uh as we move forward with this investigation.
01:59:24.000We will not be taking any questions at this time.
01:59:27.000Uh that we're giving you the latest information we have, being as transparent with everything that we have.
01:59:32.000Um, but I do want to share a couple things that I think are important.
01:59:35.000Um we uh we cannot do our job without the public's help right now.
01:59:40.000We uh the public has answered our call for action so far.
01:59:44.000We've received more than 7,000 leads and tips.
01:59:48.000Uh I would just note that the FBI hasn't received this many digital media tips from the public since the Boston Marathon bombing.
01:59:56.000This case also highlights the dedication of our law enforcement community.
02:00:00.000We have 20 federal, state, and local law enforcement partners that are working shoulder to shoulder to find the person who committed this horrific crime.
02:00:08.000With their support, we've completed uh nearly 200 interviews.
02:00:12.000As uh as you're aware, as has already been reported, the FBI is offering a 100,000 dollar reward for information leading to the identification and arrest of the person responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk.
02:00:26.000We also continue to implore the public to support this investigation and come forward with any information.
02:00:33.000We are truly hopeful that this video and new photos will lead to uh to even more tips.
02:00:39.000We are processing, we have an incredible team, a state and federal team working together to process those tips.
02:00:44.000Uh, we're going out in tandem to interview any potential person of interest or or suspects, but we need uh again, we need as many uh as much help as we can possibly get.
02:00:55.000Any videos or photos that you might have, uh the public should be submitted to our digital media tip line, which is uh www.fbi.gov forward slash Utah Valley Shooting all lowercase.
02:01:09.000Again, that is FBI.gov forward slash Utah Valley Shooting, all lowercase.
02:01:15.000You can also provide general tips about the shooting by calling 1-800 call FBI.
02:01:20.000That's 1800 C A L L FBI or at tips.fbi.gov.
02:01:27.000This is uh I would just say this is not just a local matter here in Utah.
02:01:31.000We have people all over the country that are helping to bring this perpetrator to justice for Charlie Kirk and his family.
02:01:38.000I will just add as well that, as was mentioned, there is a lot of forensic evidence that is being processed right now at both the state lab and federal labs on the East Coast.
02:01:59.000For those people who are spending so much time on social media, I think Charlie said it best, that when things get bad, we should put our phones down and spend a little time with our families.
02:02:13.000There is a tremendous amount of disinformation.
02:02:17.000We are tracking our team, the state team, and I'm sure the federal team as well.
02:02:26.000What we're seeing is our adversaries want violence.
02:02:29.000We have bots from Russia, China, all over the world that are trying to instill disinformation and encourage violence.
02:02:38.000I would encourage you to ignore those, to turn off those streams, and spend a little more time with our families.
02:02:48.000We'll have more to say about that in the days and weeks to come.
02:02:53.000More than anything, we are going to catch this person.
02:02:55.000Last thing I will just say is we've been working with our attorneys, getting everything that we need, affidavits ready, so that we can pursue the death penalty in this case.
02:03:06.000And that will happen here in the state of Utah.
02:03:09.000Again, to the public, to those who are grieving, thank you for your prayers.
02:03:39.000statement from Kevin it's all right that's awesome well there you go that's the press conference ladies and gentlemen um we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show I want to talk about some of these videos from some of these uh liberals and leftists and what they've been saying so you can follow uh me on exit instagram at Timcast that's gonna be rumble.com slash Timcast I R L in uh just about a minute or so
02:04:09.000as we we go through uh rounding out the show thank you all so much for hanging out uh once again join our Discord server at timcast.com you can call into the show as a member of our Discord community and this conversation doesn't stop they have pre-shows after shows hangouts and there's uh uh you're we're we're working on community events despite the the the risks and threats we're just adapting so we'll figure that one out uh yeah Jay did you want to shout anything out of the uh no I don't actually I I don't uh you
02:04:39.000I have some things in the works personally, but I don't have anything concrete right now.
02:04:45.000This is actually pretty much nowhere right now.
02:04:57.000Yeah, you can find me on Instagram at Real Tape Brown.
02:04:59.000And just remember, Charlie was a titan because he reoccupied the mainstream and he shifted it.
02:05:05.000Be wise, be prudent, be careful, but be cautious if you're a young man.
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02:05:55.000Thanks for hanging out we'll see y'all over there in about 30 seconds Yeah.
02:07:00.000I I tend to think the FBI will often you would just lie in the past when the shooter was known to the FBI, they catch them right away.
02:08:21.000And Herschel Walker actually had a good uh uh uh uh uh the chat just a shank of it.
02:08:28.000We got to keep attracting younger viewers that you know grow up on TikTok, you know, when they're eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, even though they shouldn't be.
02:10:52.000But the fact that this guy's like, he's shitting his pants right now.
02:10:57.000Because he knows that he has said some absolutely horrible things, and he is at the top of the list when it comes to crazy people that might want to get some, you know, get some retribution for the from the left.
02:11:41.000Um I just gotta pause, and this is right there in this moment the line.
02:11:48.000George Floyd was chewing on a speed ball, methamphetamines behind the wheel of a car, tried using counterfeit money, the police saw him in the vehicle and took him out.
02:12:00.000When they attempted to arrest him, and by all means, please go watch the body cam footage that corroborates all of this.
02:12:06.000He resisted arrest, screamed, put me on the ground three times, and they put him on the ground.
02:12:14.000He had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system.
02:12:17.000I am not saying that was his cause of death.
02:13:21.000Yeah, there is nothing um more effed up, you know, like uh than to than to completely pretend that you know his words and actions um have not been recorded and and and in existence um for for the last decade or so.
02:13:40.000And and they are violent, dangerous psychopaths that lie.
02:13:47.000I in my personal life have to deal with these the the what these people do every day.
02:13:54.000And it's funny because people who watch the show experience it too, and people super chat being like, my brother or my cousin said this about you, and I watched the show, and I'm like, you've never said that.
02:14:17.000Charlie never advocated for death or downplayed slavery.
02:14:19.000He was not a racist, but they are lying because they want the people who don't and won't watch these shows to have hate in their hearts and to engage in acts of violence.
02:14:32.000We should grab some callers, and we'll start with uh Breakfast Lord Waffles.
02:14:51.000Um, America is profoundly sick, politically, socially, physically, mentally, and reproductively.
02:14:57.000Much of this has been tied to endocrine system disrupting Chemicals or EDCs, which are widely proven to cause IQ loss, obesity, diabetes, depression, anxiety, ADHD, autism, infertility, sex hormone dysregulation, and more.
02:15:14.000Swapping these chemicals for safer ones will save the US well over three hundred billion dollars annually and ameliorate many of America's biggest problems.
02:15:22.000How can Maha leverage uh how can we leverage Maha and RFK to stop this catastrophic poisoning of America?
02:15:31.000I mean, that's what they're doing, isn't it?