00:01:20.000Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Pakistan have all got together to come up with the Mecca Agreement.
00:01:25.000It's essentially based on the framework of NATO.
00:01:28.000So it's a joint defense pact that says that if any of the three nations are attacked, they're all going to treat it as if they were attacked.
00:01:37.000Now, there haven't been a lot of specifics laid out there.
00:01:39.000It's intentionally ambiguous, but we're going to get into how that's going to affect NATO, considering Turkey is a NATO country, how that's going to affect the United States because the U.S. and Iran are.
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00:05:18.000Saudi Arabia, from Reuters, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan pledge mutual defense as Middle East turmoil escalates.
00:05:25.000Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Turkey signed a joint defense agreement in Mecca on Friday, wedding sunny Muslim U.S. allies alarmed at a regional conflagration that has brought Iranian missiles fire into Gulf oil exporters.
00:05:39.000Iran and its allies have been firing on Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states and blockading their energy shipments since the U.S. and Israel attacked on February 28th in a major escalation after years of regional tumult.
00:05:50.000The Mecca Joint Defense Agreement is intended to strengthen collective deterrence against any act of aggression and stipulates that an armed attack against any of the three would be regarded as an attack on all, they said in a joint statement.
00:06:03.000However, the statement did not give specifics on the commitments each had and accepted it was not clear how far the agreement would bind them to any particular military action in each other's defense.
00:06:13.000Turkish Vice President Sevel Yamalas said the agreement was not aimed at any specific country.
00:06:20.000Purely defensive and did not abrogate any existing agreements the countries had with other states, referring to NATO.
00:06:27.000The three nations share concerns about the increasingly aggressive military stance of both Israel and the revolutionary Shiite Iran as their longtime U.S. ally struggles to contain regional upheaval that has caused a global energy crisis.
00:06:40.000Now, like I said earlier, this is going to bring up a lot of questions and a lot of issues.
00:06:48.000First of all, Pakistan is a nuclear armed country.
00:08:02.000Pakistan, if there are more escalations to the conflict between India, because the US has got fairly good relations with India, does that mean that Saudi Arabia and Turkey have to get into conflict with India?
00:08:17.000This really just makes a big mess that has a lot of implications for the United States.
00:08:23.000Yeah, I mean, on its face, it looks like it's like, okay, they just made a pact.
00:08:44.000So, but so that now that Turkey's involved in two of them of wildly different regions, because obviously the United States and NATO, that was a direct reaction to the Warsaw Pact, but that era's come and gone.
00:08:57.000Now we're seeing this with a new conflict.
00:09:04.000That's a big problem for our relationship with India.
00:09:07.000And our relationship with any allies of India as well.
00:09:11.000So, having a mutual defense pact like that can be devastating.
00:09:15.000People see this, so I guess the Middle East who cares?
00:09:18.000It has a direct impact on us because if India attacks Turkey for being allied to Pakistan, we get pulled into that, and so does like most of Europe at that point because of clause five, which is part of the NATO, whatever their charter,
00:09:33.000I guess is what it's called the NATO charter.
00:09:34.000So we have the U.S. is in multiple defensive pacts for the record.
00:09:41.000There's one with Japan specifically, there's one with South Korea specifically, one with the Philippines specifically.
00:09:46.000These are all like World War II holdover defensive pacts.
00:09:49.000One with New Zealand and Australia called the ANZUS Treaty, and then one called the Rio Treaty, which is, uh, yeah, in the Americas.
00:09:57.000That are so the thing about defensive pacts World War One got started because of a series of defensive pacts that triggered.
00:10:02.000So, like, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan are in a defensive pact now.
00:10:07.000America's in a defensive pact with Turkey, NATO.
00:10:09.000So, if Pakistan gets attacked by a random country and then Turkey responds by attacking a random country, and then a random country attacks Turkey.
00:10:20.000In response to the response, yeah, the Americans then are bound to attack a random country now because their ally, as Turkey, was attacked.
00:10:29.000You know, Austria Hungary attacked, like, somehow you find the British declaring war on the Austrians because they attacked, you know, the French who had been, yeah, attacked by the Germans and were responding.
00:10:42.000So, um, that alone is concerning, but the other aspect of it is like it's a temperature check on where the minds of the Turks are because the Turks are the bridge.
00:10:53.000Between the Russians and the Mediterranean now that they control Crimea.
00:10:57.000And if this is much better news than if the Turks were to have signed a defensive pact with the Russians, for instance.
00:11:03.000So at least it's like, I mean, I see that they want to buffer and protect themselves against the Israeli aggression and against the Iranian aggression right now.
00:11:12.000They want to kind of, you know, the Israelis, I think, have their eyes set on controlling the Middle East pretty seriously.
00:11:19.000And it's like, you know, I applaud the.
00:11:25.000The independence of these people, like they're not bowing, waiting for the Americas to take over and protect them.
00:12:08.000But, you know, he's been, you know, Erdogan has been trying to strengthen Turkey's position by playing both sides.
00:12:18.000And while I don't think that there's a significant chance of Russia getting involved in basically any kind of conflict right now, they're so bogged down in Ukraine.
00:12:31.000And they've shown that their army is not prepared for a serious conflict with NATO.
00:12:42.000The thing that Russia has is nuclear weapons.
00:12:46.000How well they work or how capable they are, I don't know.
00:12:49.000But if there's one thing that has been shown over the past four years, it's that big Russia can't even beat little Russia, never mind all of NATO.
00:12:58.000So I think the real implications are things like India.
00:13:02.000And Pakistan, mostly Iran and Saudi Arabia, and to a lesser extent, Turkey and anyone else.
00:13:10.000But the problem is if Turkey decides that they're going to attack someone, and in this case, it would most likely be Iran, and Iran strikes back, does that bring in Europe?
00:13:22.000Because Europe has been really hesitant about getting involved in Iran, right?
00:13:26.000You know, the US has been saying, look, we want you to do this, we want you to do that.
00:13:30.000France has said they're going to do stuff that's never materialized.
00:13:34.000The British are like, hell no, we're not getting involved.
00:13:39.000Germany obviously has no interest in getting involved in Iran.
00:13:43.000An attack on Turkey could either trigger Article 5 or it could actually start, it could mean the dissolution of the whole NATO pact.
00:13:54.000I'm thinking, well, because there weren't specifics given between the coalition, I think this might be like a kind of like, hey, back off Iran.
00:14:03.000Like we have these three countries that are surround you.
00:14:07.000And maybe, hey, stop droning Saudi Arabia.
00:14:19.000It could be either one because India could mess with Pakistan, which really wasn't the reason for this pact being made.
00:14:25.000But now that they've done that, and then Turkey gets involved, and then the U.S. has to get involved if they attack Turkey, it's a huge mess.
00:14:32.000And so I get what you were saying about having these pacts can be a good thing because it's like independence of the people.
00:14:37.000But at the same time, there's so many of them at this point.
00:14:40.000Well, I mean, it doesn't the existence of the pact indicate that it's not independence thereafter, right?
00:14:45.000If you make these kind of pacts, you know, that's.
00:14:49.000Kind of to Ian's point, he was saying it can be a good thing for these countries to do it without the US having to back them.
00:14:56.000But then the problem is when you have Turkey involved, Turkey is the problem here, is Turkey is the one thing that could actually screw this all up and create World War III, basically.
00:15:23.000So, like, they have a triple, three different things they're trying to balance all at once.
00:15:31.000The thing about defensive pacts, though, is realistically, if the Iranians drone bombed Saudi Arabian American military bases and then Turkey felt like they had to respond and attacked Iran, and then Iran was like, all right, then we're attacking Turkey.
00:15:46.000That shouldn't trigger NATO because the Turks aggressed on Iran.
00:15:51.000It's kind of we wash our hands of any response to your aggression.
00:15:54.000Toward the Iranians, we don't have to defend you if you attacked someone and they're attacking you back.
00:16:01.000I mean, as far as I know, maybe the treaty says otherwise, but usually that absolves you of your duties if your partner, your defensive partner, were to aggress.
00:16:18.000Yeah, it was just updated on August 7th, so I don't think there has been a response, and I wouldn't expect one, any kind of statement, until at least Monday.
00:16:36.000whether or not an attack on Turkey, once Turkey was to become a belligerent, whether or not that attack would trigger NATO, it would put pressure on NATO.
00:16:48.000And the question is can NATO survive that?
00:16:52.000For the most part, NATO is obviously the US is the big dog in NATO, right?
00:16:59.000After the US, I think Germany has the biggest army now.
00:17:06.000And so I know the Germans aren't interested in getting involved at all.
00:17:10.000Germany has their own problems, you know, dealing with their immigration and trying to stamp out the AFD and stuff, right?
00:17:20.000So I don't think that Germany's looking for this.
00:17:24.000But in my estimation, the biggest issue that this would cause would be, you know, does NATO survive this?
00:17:34.000Or is this the catalyst that actually starts tearing NATO apart?
00:18:19.000But any kind of organization like this, everyone knows, is like my least favorite thing ever.
00:18:23.000So, I wouldn't, I don't want NATO to crumble because there's some attack on Turkey.
00:18:31.000And then, like, I want it to not be for that reason.
00:18:34.000But I'm also not opposed to NATO falling apart.
00:18:36.000It's been how many years since the Cold War, and we still have NATO, which we don't need it.
00:18:42.000I think one of the other things that the That NATO has been at least part of is to try to prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons, right?
00:18:51.000Without NATO and without, you know, the U.S., like you had mentioned before the show, there are U.S. nuclear missiles in Turkey.
00:19:00.000And that was, you know, to deter Russia.
00:19:02.000And that wouldn't be possible if we didn't have NATO, right?
00:19:05.000Well, I mean, you could do individual ones, but the whole point of NATO was, you know, at first it was to deter the Soviets in the Warsaw Pact.
00:19:56.000There's the Treaty of Nonproliferation on Nuclear Weapons, which is a UN backed treaty that's been active since, I think, 1970 or something.
00:20:04.000And that is, they check, or they have the IAEA, which is the International Atomic Energy Agency, and they can check for building up stockpiles and stuff like that.
00:20:56.000Yeah, I think, again, that's important.
00:20:58.000Having those things is important, but at the same time, it's just I think because the US has gotten involved in so many Middle Eastern conflicts, I'm like fatigued and I'm like, could you just not do that?
00:21:23.000I mean, the US does the heavy lifting for NATO for sure.
00:21:27.000It probably, I don't think that the Chinese would ever invade.
00:21:31.000Alaska, Canada, United States mainland.
00:21:34.000I don't think they would, even if we weren't in NATO, but it does offer severe protection against that, too, because it would open up a Western front for the Chinese or a Southwestern front if they were to tangle.
00:21:46.000If any country were to tangle, they'd have all of Europe attack them.
00:21:50.000You know, China doesn't border like European countries.
00:23:38.000So Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are Baltic states that used to be.
00:23:44.000They used to be part of the Soviet Union, those are the three, and then, um, and those all share a border with Russia.
00:23:53.000So, and I think that you know, I don't know for sure that Vladimir Putin intends to or would like to retake them, but I imagine because he said one of the greatest things that's one of the worst things that's ever happened to the world,
00:24:08.000one of the greatest tragedies, I think, is the way that he articulated it was the disillusion of the Soviet Union, right?
00:24:16.000There's a lot of people because he's a KGB guy, he was a true believer in the Soviet Union, and the dissolution of it was you know, it was a big deal.
00:25:06.000Robertshev and Yeltsin became a little too friendly with the U.S., started to kind of phase out of all of the, and then that's how it ultimately fell apart.
00:25:15.000It was economic collapse at the end of the day because socialism doesn't work, go figure.
00:25:19.000But that was at the end of the day getting a little too buddy buddy with the West, getting too Western, getting away from those ideals is how it fell apart.
00:25:30.000Poon's perspective on the dissolution of the Soviet Union kind of gives you a perspective on what he would want.
00:25:36.000If NATO were to collapse, he would 100% try to reclaim those lands.
00:25:40.000Whether he can or not, I don't know whether he has the time because, like I said, the Soviet military, I'm sorry, the Russian military is not, like, it's just not the monster that we thought it was.
00:25:55.000You know, the U.S. and NATO support of Ukraine.
00:25:59.000Ukraine has basically created a stalemate, and both sides are basically conscripting people to throw them into the meat grinder.
00:26:08.000And Russia just doesn't have the conventional forces to take back Ukraine, obviously.
00:26:13.000I don't think they could take the other three.
00:26:15.000I don't think they could take Latvia, Estonia, or Lithuania at all because
00:26:23.000So even if the US or if NATO dissolved, they would still seek out help from.
00:26:32.000Other European nations and other European nations have a significant incentive to help prevent Russia from starting to gobble up other countries.
00:26:44.000I got this the reference for the quote that you're talking about from Putin.
00:26:47.000In 2005, he said the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century, indicating because 25 million ethnic Russians or Russian speaking people suddenly found themselves living outside of Russian borders.
00:27:04.000And so they were sort of something what happened with like the Germans after World War I.
00:27:08.000They split off the East and turned it into Poland.
00:27:11.000And so all the ethnic Germans started getting executed and just treated like second class citizens.
00:27:16.000Could have been happening with the Russians.
00:27:17.000And then later in that same speech, Putin said anyone that wants to restore the Soviet Union has no brains because that old system did not work.
00:27:25.000But he wanted to re empower Russia itself.
00:27:38.000Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus are Russian.
00:27:44.000So he's saying that, like, even if he's saying I don't want to go back to that exact system, he still wants to restore it to the size it was.
00:27:51.000He doesn't want to bring back the Politburo and stuff.
00:27:55.000He wants to be the dictator of these countries.
00:27:59.000You know, he was in 2005, I think he stepped down, or I'm not sure when exactly, but in the aughts, he stepped down as president and Medvedev.
00:28:09.000Became the president for a little while.
00:28:43.000Sexy means time doesn't touch him, you know.
00:28:47.000But yeah, the point is, like, he would be the dictator of those countries.
00:28:51.000Maybe he wouldn't want it to be like the Soviet Union, but the reason he wouldn't want it to be like the Soviet Union is because he wants to have total control, not have the Politburo or have the.
00:29:45.000Well, at first he wasn't, but now, you know, since.
00:29:48.0002008, it was almost 20 years he's been the president.
00:29:51.000So, my philosophy of Steelman and what he's doing is he thinks that if he were to leave office, that some bureaucrat, liberal economic goon would come in and sell the country out to the machine state.
00:30:01.000And then that would be the we'd all become technocratic spy tech everywhere.
00:30:05.000Are you saying that because you think that, or are you saying that because you've read some stuff?
00:33:49.000But then the other aspect of it is like, if you just play laissez faire liberalism, the communists will take over and destroy you from within.
00:33:55.000So you have to kind of be brutal and bend and break the rules from time to time to maintain power and authority.
00:34:00.000So Putin's like, I see how he wavers between the two.
00:34:05.000Well, that's, that's, well, first of all, I wouldn't, I don't think that we can classify Russia as a, you know, democratic republic.
00:34:14.000I think it's a federal, they call it the Russian Federation, I think.
00:34:17.000Federation of states, but it's, I, Oblasts.
00:35:42.000So, yeah, I guess back to the initial topic what does the Mecca agreement mean for NATO?
00:35:51.000And it really is just kind of a mess, because obviously the issues with Turkey, The issues that are currently going on with Iran, it could be a complete and total just pile of spaghetti.
00:36:06.000I think it really indicates that the actual threat is not the Russians, but the Israelis and the Iranians.
00:36:13.000It's not either one of them, it's the conflict that's brewing as a result of that.
00:36:51.000The U.S. job market stalled unexpectedly last month, delivering a political blow to President Donald Trump three months ahead of midterm elections and complicating decisions making for the inflation fighters at the U.S. Federal Reserve.
00:37:02.000Employers cut 23,000 jobs in July, and the Labor Department revisions slashed 103 jobs from May and June payroll.
00:37:10.000The unemployment rate Fell, but for the wrong reasons.
00:37:12.000Thousands of people dropped out of the labor market, so fewer people were competing for work.
00:37:17.000The job numbers from the Labor Department Friday marked a sharp setback for the American labor market and for Trump less than three months before his Republican Party seeks to keep full control of Congress in the midterm election.
00:37:27.000Forecasters had expected job creation to approach 100,000 last month.
00:37:32.000Local public schools cut 50,000 jobs in July, restaurants and bars, 26,000, retailers, 19,000.
00:37:37.000Now, the 50,000 jobs in local public schools matter because this happens every year, right?
00:37:43.000In the summertime, Public schools cut jobs because obviously kids go home, so they don't need to have as many people on staff.
00:37:52.000The 4.1 unemployment rate was the lowest since June 2025.
00:37:56.000Again, June of last year, but it only fell because 264,000 people dropped out of the labor market last month.
00:38:02.000The share of those working or looking for work fell to 61% of the lowest since February 2021.
00:38:09.000We can't really put lipstick on a pig here, said Daniel Zhao, chief economist at the job website Glassdoor.
00:41:34.000Yeah, restaurants and bars is probably, restaurants and bars and retailers had a total of, or restaurants and bars were 26,000, retailers were 19,000.
00:41:46.000It's not as many as public schools, but when you have shrinkage in restaurants and bars and retailers, that kind of indicates that the economy is slowing a little bit, that people aren't going out and spending as much money.
00:41:59.000And this kind of ties into the burrito gate that's been going on on X, right?
00:42:04.000People are complaining because burritos shouldn't cost this much money.
00:42:09.000And maybe they have a good argument, but the response has been terrible.
00:42:14.000You know, when you have job numbers that are less than you would hope for, like they were talking about, I think they said they were hoping for jobs to be up by, what is it?
00:42:26.000Yeah, I think they said they were hoping that jobs were going to be up by 100,000 and then they're down by, you know, 75 or not 80,000 or whatever.
00:42:52.000And then the response from, you know, boomers, from older people is like, oh, well, just pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
00:42:59.000And I've made this point a couple of times.
00:43:00.000Like, you can't talk to young people that are not go getters as if they were go getters because the go getters are already out there going and getting it, right?
00:43:10.000Like, if you're a motivated person and you're like, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to make something out of nothing, you're already doing it.
00:43:19.000So, the pull yourself up by the bootstraps is a terrible, terrible line.
00:43:23.000And I've been focusing lately a little bit on how important messaging is, right?
00:43:28.000The Democrats have got great messaging because they're telling people, we're going to take care of you.
00:43:36.000And you're telling people that don't have anything.
00:43:38.000They're like, you know, you can't say, oh, well, you have to worry about your property.
00:43:41.000Young people are using Klana for burritos or Klana, Klana for burritos, right?
00:44:00.000And you don't have to work any harder, you don't have to go out there and get it, we're going to bring it right to you.
00:44:05.000You know, that's going to convince people it's not a great way to actually have your country organized at all.
00:44:14.000It's unsustainable, specifically when you've got so much money going to older people through Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
00:44:22.000Right, that's going to be insolvent in four in like what six years, 2032 or 33 is when Social Security ends.
00:44:31.000And all that's going to be is they're going to cut everyone's benefits, which means people that are living on Social Security that are that you know are just getting by on their Social Security they're going to have 25% of their benefits cut, you know, and that opens the door.
00:44:44.000It does on the other side, where hey, we'll take it, we'll cover that cost that you're missing.
00:44:48.000And go ahead, I'm sorry, no, go ahead, go, please.
00:44:50.000No, I'm just saying like the GOP, like they're still in that old school mindset where.
00:44:54.000You know, I walk to school up, up, uphill in the snow.
00:44:57.000You know, oh, you're not making enough money.
00:45:37.000Like, I get why he lost for multiple reasons.
00:45:40.000But as someone who's elder Gen Z, I guess, I see this a lot in my generation.
00:45:45.000I see a lot of people saying that they feel like helpless and they're doing Klarna on DoorDash because they don't think they'll ever buy a house.
00:46:10.000I mean, how do you motivate people to do more, you know, when they feel like, you know, the whole world is stacked against them?
00:46:20.000John Doyle had a post the other day, and he was talking about, you know, young people have the right to expect the same standard of living as their parents had.
00:46:28.000And I'm not sure that they have that right, but it's completely reasonable.
00:46:34.000You know, it's completely reasonable to think that.
00:46:36.000Like, I don't think you can say, well, I have a right to this, but it's completely understandable why someone would say, look, man, we live in the age of AI and cell phones that can do everything for me,
00:46:49.000and everything gets brought right to my house whenever I buy it, and et cetera.
00:46:55.000Why don't I have the ability to get a house?
00:46:57.000And sure, we can jump in and say, well, look, it's because the Federal Reserve printed up a bunch of money, and it's because the boomers are holding on to their houses and not selling them.
00:47:06.000And that's why all the things that you really want, you don't have access to.
00:47:12.000But it doesn't change the fact that they don't feel good about it and how people vote by how they feel.
00:47:18.000I mean, yeah, there are three big reasons I can see it.
00:47:20.000And the first one is the biggest one, and that's a lack of accountability for people, not taking accountability for their money, their actions, the jobs they're getting, not applying themselves to these things.
00:47:29.000The second one is that most of the teachers in schools today are basically communists and they're teaching them these things from a young age.
00:47:38.000It's a lot harder to change someone's mind when they're 25 than when they're five.
00:47:42.000So, when you teach those things, and then that goes to the third thing, which is parenting, having strong parents in the household.
00:47:47.000Like every kid that is raised by somebody here is going to be fine.
00:47:50.000I'm not worried about anyone's kids here.
00:47:52.000I'm talking generally speaking, weaker parents with a weaker messaging.
00:47:56.000And then they go to school and hear the same thing, and they're treating the schools like a second parent or like a daycare.
00:48:02.000Then they go on into the world to be like, why do I need to take accountability?
00:48:05.000My life just sucks because that's what I've always been told.
00:48:07.000See, but I don't disagree with any of the.
00:48:11.000Any of the substance of what you're saying, but how do you articulate that in a way that doesn't sound like pull yourself up or offensive?
00:48:20.000Yeah, because it's a feeling space for somebody.
00:48:22.000So, like, my concern is if you want people to vote for things that are going to be good for the country, how do you tell them in a way that also doesn't sound like, well, it's your responsibility?
00:48:38.000Because we've got to hold, and I see this with libertarians, and it's one of the reasons why I find significant problems with libertarians nowadays.
00:48:50.000And liberty, and nobody talks about the corresponding responsibility.
00:48:55.000And it's because it's not really particularly attractive, right?
00:48:59.000You can get people to sign up and hang out with you, and you're like, man, you should be free to do whatever you want, blah, And whether you're in the gun industry, in the gun industry, and in the gun world,
00:49:12.000it's a little bit different because one of the things that we talk about a lot is look, you have a responsibility.
00:49:17.000Like, you're responsible for every bullet that comes out of your gun, right?
00:49:22.000A firearm in a self defense situation, don't think that getting the bad guy is the only thing, that stopping the threat is the only thing.
00:49:30.000Because if you smoke someone behind him, that's still second degree murder and you're going to catch charge.
00:49:36.000You're responsible for all that stuff.
00:49:38.000And so the Second Amendment community, the libertarians or whatever in the Second Amendment community, they're pretty good about it.
00:49:43.000But the other parts of the Libertarian Party, the people that are less focused on 2A issues, like talking about, well, you're responsible for these things.
00:49:55.000For your liberty, you're if you're free to do things, you have corresponding responsibility that comes along with it.
00:50:00.000That is not particularly attractive, but you don't hear anybody in the libertarian party talking about it, right?
00:50:06.000I think the biggest thing is a lot of Gen Z doesn't feel heard, they don't feel like people actually understand them because so many boomers are like, Oh, pour yourself up from your boot.
00:50:14.000First of all, stop going to boomers for your advice.
00:50:16.000Like, go, you know, maybe Gen X and millennials are better right now.
00:50:20.000I get we don't always have all of it together, but the boomers clearly aren't doing us any good right now.
00:50:25.000I'm going to exclude my parents from that one because they're lovely, but.
00:50:29.000It's mostly they need to hear that you understand what they're going through.
00:50:33.000Look, I see what you're going through.
00:50:35.000When I was 20 something, I really thought I was never going to get a house.
00:50:38.000I thought all these things were going to be like the world was ending for me as well.
00:51:38.000This is why I do appreciate the boomers and the silent generation if you had an opportunity to hang with them.
00:51:43.000Because when I ask my dad, or if my dad's giving me advice, when I was 20, I was serving on a destroyer in the South Pacific because the Vietnam, the Viet Cong were, you know, the Russians were trying to take over.
00:51:56.000So he was like, he wasn't shooting and killing people.
00:51:58.000He was in the Navy and was able to avoid direct combat.
00:52:01.000But a lot of our money and our wealth was generated by foreign conquest and winning wars in the 20th century.
00:52:08.000And when that, Faded away after the Soviet Union fell.
00:52:11.000Fiat, we were like, we need to maintain the standard of living so people can keep buying houses.
00:54:51.000And I was like, okay, I'll figure it out then.
00:54:52.000I mean, that was kind of like my dad was a, he owned a business.
00:54:55.000So he was, you know, worked in the trades and worked with his hands all his life.
00:55:00.000So he kind of, there was no pressure for me to go into college.
00:55:04.000My daughter, his daughter, my sister wanted to go into college and she got a degree and doesn't, I don't, she doesn't really use her degree.
00:55:14.000She went into, I think she got a degree in marketing and she's been a bank manager for the past.
00:55:19.000That's a better degree than a lot of kids get.
00:55:32.000She went and, like I said, she got a marketing degree and she's worked at a bank and she's been a bank manager for something like 30 years or whatever.
00:55:38.000And, you know, she didn't go into finance when she was in college, but she got out of college, had a degree, and got a job.
00:55:46.000And, you know, she started as a teller and worked her way up and now she manages a brand.
00:55:53.000My dad, they're currently selling the company, but.
00:55:56.000My dad's whole career was owning a construction business for commercial glass.
00:56:00.000So, what your point is, kids living at home, I think so many of them live at home because they see this big mountain of, I don't know, I'm just going to average it out to maybe 30 to 60 grand in debt before you can even think about buying a house that's $300,000.
00:56:50.000But the point that I'm making is like most of the people that I know that went to college, like out of all the people that I know that went to college, only the guys that went to like Berkeley or went to state schools for music.
00:57:04.000Got a BA, our old guitar player, Ollie.
00:57:06.000Got a BA in music theory, and he was obviously in All That Remains for 20 years.
00:57:13.000Adam Duckowitz, the guitar player and producer from Killswitch Engage, he went to Berkeley.
00:58:43.000The loan because you can get such huge loans.
00:58:46.000And one of the problems you mentioned, excuse me, you mentioned earlier, Olivia, is the fact that the government guarantees these loans or government is involved in it.
00:58:57.000And anything the government gets involved in, the prices go up.
00:59:01.000Part of the reason why homes are so expensive is because the government's involved in homes and home loans and stuff.
00:59:07.000Part of the reason why schooling is so expensive is because you've got government loans.
00:59:12.000And so the schools raise the prices because they know that.
00:59:15.000You know, an 18 year old can get a loan for a hundred grand to pay for school or whatever, and you get locked into this loan for however long.
00:59:24.000And then people that get out of school, you know, they're paying minimum payments, and minimum payments aren't even covering the increase in interest.
00:59:32.000And that's why you get people that are, you know, they're 10 years out of school and they owe more money than when they, you know, got out of school.
00:59:39.000Yeah, I know two people who met at a private college, got married.
00:59:43.000Both of them lived locally, but still lived on campus, which cost more money to do that.
00:59:46.000They could have commuted, they didn't.
00:59:49.000Now they are married, they live together, they have collectively $120,000 in student loans.
00:59:53.000Neither of them are using the degrees that they got.
01:02:49.000We put out a record in 2002 and it wasn't the record that I wanted to put out.
01:02:54.000And I was like, well, how do I, how do I, you know, how do I get a record?
01:02:57.000How do we make a record that sounds like I want to, you know, like I want it to sound?
01:03:00.000And I, fortunately, I knew Adam from Kill Switch and I was like, hey, produce our record.
01:03:05.000And then we went to, we went to him to do the next record.
01:03:07.000And that's when we started getting some traction because, you know, he's like, he's like, this is what you should do and you should do this and change that.
01:03:13.000And we didn't go in there saying, we know what, you know, we know, we know what's up.
01:03:17.000We're like, help us make a good record.
01:03:19.000You know, you're the guy that went to Berkeley.
01:03:21.000You're the guy that, you know, put out the records that sound like we want our record to sound like.
01:03:26.000And, you know, we did whatever he said.
01:03:29.000And then when we went back to him for the next record, this record called The Fall of Ideals, like that record we put together ourselves with very little input.
01:03:36.000When we brought it to him, he was like, yeah, all this stuff sounds squared away.
01:03:39.000I wouldn't really change this or whatever.
01:03:42.000And after that, it was like, okay, you're off to the races.
01:03:44.000We kind of figured out the secret sauce to make all that remains sound like all that remains.
01:03:50.000So it's really a matter of not quitting, continue pushing.
01:03:55.000And it's hard because you know, you got to get bills to pay, and a lot of people end up with like families.
01:04:00.000Well, fewer people end up with families nowadays, but but you know, it's it's hard to continue when you keep running into walls or you keep getting turned down or you keep you know, miss a lot of opportunities or whatever.
01:04:11.000But the people that end up successful are the people that don't quit.
01:05:15.000I mean, I worked so many shitty jobs as a waiter.
01:05:18.00012 years of just hating my job, thinking about how miserable I was while I was standing there waiting for it to be over, like dreaming about a day where I could do what I liked and actually make money doing it.
01:05:31.000But the problem with the American dream, like you're saying, is like the militarization and just like I felt like we had the dream was alive in the 90s.
01:06:30.000Well, so I think that there was a general.
01:06:34.000Idea of what the American dream was, right?
01:06:37.000The idea that you can go to work, do something that maybe something you don't love, but something that you can tolerate and you can come home and you can have a home and a family that's yours, right?
01:06:53.000The idea of ownership is something that was a major component of the American dream for a long time.
01:07:00.000And that's part of the reason why I think people that rent.
01:07:03.000And don't own anything, kind of feel like they're alienated or they don't have access to the American dream because they don't have that aspiration to own something, right?
01:07:13.000The whole idea, like, of I'm the king of my castle, right?
01:07:16.000Maybe it's not the biggest one in the world, but it's mine.
01:07:20.000And I get to make the decisions, and my family is here, and this is what the important stuff is to me, right?
01:07:27.000Like that kind of sense of ownership and that kind of sense of I've made my life.
01:07:35.000And I've made it out of, you know, out of working hard at whatever your job is, whether it be, you know, a white collar job or a blue collar job.
01:07:44.000The idea that you can go to work and then you have your little, quote unquote, your little slice of heaven, your home that's yours, that no one can take away from you, where you can actually make the decisions.
01:08:06.000To me, the American dream is like people that, if you're talking about people that come here for the American dream, if that's what you want to look at it as, people that come here to buy a house.
01:08:14.000Have a family, work hard, and leave their children what they worked for.
01:08:18.000The term succeed actually, like the term succession, like if a king succeeds, succeeds to his child, that's the general term of did you succeed in life?
01:08:28.000Well, we're about to find out because is stuff being passed down to your child?
01:08:32.000That is success, is that you're able to pass something on to the next generation.
01:08:36.000So, to your point, the idea that the American dream was somehow tainted by foreign wars, I don't, that doesn't resonate with me because I think that.
01:08:46.000The American dream was always about here in the United States and the individual's ability to do things in the United States, do things for themselves.
01:08:55.000The people that come here that are looking, quote unquote, looking for the American dream, they're coming here hoping that they can start something.
01:09:03.000And this is a kind of a way that I phrase it a lot people that have an agency attitude, that they can go somewhere in the United States and make something happen for themselves,
01:09:14.000as opposed to people that have a lack of agency in their attitude who think that the world happens to them.
01:09:21.000And I think part of the reason why, a big part of the reason why the United States has been successful over the course of our 250 year history is because people were attracted to the idea of coming here and being able to make something happen for themselves.
01:09:36.000And that kind of possibility drew people that were looking to come here and happen to America.
01:09:46.000Like when Arnold Schwarzenegger came over to the United States, he was determined to happen to America.
01:09:53.000Like America wasn't going to happen to him.
01:09:57.000And millions of people that have come to the United States throughout our history have come here with the same goals and the same aspirations.
01:10:35.000Take out the millions of illegals that are taking jobs, houses, get them out.
01:10:40.000And you just have all these compounding things that are on top.
01:10:43.000And once you start solving some of these problems, it opens up the door again to the American dream because there are invaders in our country that are taking the American dream away from us.
01:10:52.000Yeah, I think land ownership is a big part of it.
01:10:55.000Like back in the last couple hundred years, there was a lot of open land to take.
01:11:00.000For colonists and for settlers, like going west, that age has sort of passed us by.
01:11:06.000And within the United States, there's not a lot of land to go get now.
01:11:09.000It's kind of owned by corporations sometimes.
01:11:20.000Yeah, that's more of an Israeli thing.
01:11:22.000But there is land to be colonized, I hear, on earth.
01:11:26.000So, but like if a foreign corporation, especially, owns a piece of land in the United States, like is the American dreamer thinking, like, yo, Manifest destiny.
01:11:48.000It's not necessarily adherent to American law and American restriction rules everywhere it goes.
01:11:53.000So, any kind of foreign op, a Chinese businessman owning American farmland, that seems like that's another cloud that you would need to peel away to be like, look, the American dream is owning my own property.
01:12:03.000And if the Chinese own all the land around me, what am I supposed to do?
01:12:09.000What's going to happen in this dream if the foreigners keep trying to buy my land through legal right when the reality is I'm de facto on top of it?
01:12:17.000Because there's like du jour reality, where it's like by law, this is what the reality is.
01:12:22.000And then there's de facto reality, which is like what's really happening, which is these people are here living on this land.
01:12:27.000Maybe they're not on paper the owners, but they're basically the owners because they're the ones, they're the protectors of the territory.
01:12:35.000I mean, back in the day, it was land seizure.
01:14:01.000He goes, for context, he's referencing Adam D, the time that Adam D from Killstarter Engage was on The Price is Right, and he went and he won the whole caboodle, the whole thing.
01:14:10.000He got all the way to the end and won.
01:14:12.000And it was hilarious because he's, if you know anything about Adam D, he's a character.
01:15:24.000to Ian's point, right, like if there's a U.S. landowner that owns the land, it's going to be some big conglomerate if they're leasing it to a company.
01:15:33.000It's not going to be like, you know, Joe down the street owns this land and he's going to lease it to, you know, the Samsung Corporation.
01:15:39.000You know, it'd be cool if we could do stuff like that.
01:15:41.000Well, I mean, if you own property, you absolutely can.
01:15:46.000There's nothing preventing an American citizen from leasing land to a company that wants to build some kind of factory or something like that.
01:15:54.000This is where I start to align with the communist cry for seizure of property, is because if corporatocracy, I feel like, is the other end of the spectrum of communism, is where the corporations own everything as opposed to everyone owns everything.
01:16:08.000So the communists will be like, down with corporate ownership.
01:17:21.000So, like, usually eminent domain, and there's the abuses that are my biggest problem, but usually eminent domain is used for like, we're building a highway.
01:17:29.000So, we need to take this because the highway is going through here and we can't have it go, you know, whatever.
01:17:35.000We can't change the shape of the highway or whatever.
01:17:39.000As for data centers, I don't think that the government is actually in the business of using eminent domain to acquire land for data centers.
01:17:49.000Most of the time, it's private companies that are doing that.
01:18:25.000And I think there's going to be a lot of companies that are going to follow suit because once he figures out how to do it, and he's very much the only no is physics, right?
01:18:33.000So if physics says you can't do it, then you can't do it.
01:19:36.000So, if you could transmit, like if my phone could do calculations for your tank, like partially because it's local or something, because it's nearby, and I could run like 2% of your data needs, that could help alleviate.
01:19:53.000We're going to jump to this story here.
01:19:55.000Todd Blanche's nomination for Attorney General clears critical hurdle after a deal with GOP holdouts.
01:20:01.000From the AP, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche has cleared a Critical hurdle Tuesday in his bid to be confirmed to the post after swaying Republican holdouts on a Senate committee to advance his nomination for a floor vote.
01:20:13.000The Senate Judiciary Committee voted 12 to 10 along party lines in support of the nomination of President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, who has aggressively pushed the Republican administration's priorities since taking over for Pam Bondi in April.
01:20:28.000The vote followed a deal struck late Sunday between Blanche and two Republican senators, John Cornett of Texas and Tom Tillis of North Carolina, who had been threatening to block his confirmation over the settlement of Trump's lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service regarding the president's leaked. Tax returns.
01:20:42.000Cornyn and Tills backed Blanche's nomination after the Justice Department confirmed in writing that it wasn't moving forward with a $1.8 billion fund to compensate Trump allies who believe they were prosecuted for political purposes, which the administration announced as part of the settlement.
01:20:57.000So, I'm not sure how many people Donald Trump has appointed that have been confirmed by the Senate, but I know that it's historically low.
01:23:01.000So, the Senate has confirmed a couple, it says hundreds of President Donald Trump's nominees for a second term, including a fresh package of 74 to 100, seven civilian and lower level administration posts approved in early August to clear a backlog.
01:23:15.000Thousands of total political positions exist, with hundreds tracked actively.
01:23:20.000Let's see, do they have any kind of numbers here?
01:23:23.000Because I know that the administration politically appointee tracker.
01:23:49.000I mean, that's probably like lower level, like every position they have to because they have to, yeah, they have to okay, like so many appointments, and there's a lot of appointments to fill.
01:24:35.000I think that the most significant thing that Doge got to do was cut USAID.
01:24:41.000And even now, you're hearing how people are swearing up and down that Elon Musk is a murderer.
01:24:45.000I even saw some infographics that talk about the most murders in history, and they put Musk's name in there because they project that all these people are going to die.
01:24:57.000So they've got Mao, Stalin, Elon Musk, Hitler, as if Musk was responsible for these deaths because of Doge.
01:25:09.000You know, there's constantly people that talk about, well, you know, the government should get rid of waste, fraud, and abuse.
01:25:15.000And then you go ahead and you get rid of the waste, fraud, and abuse, and people freak out because it's always a catastrophe.
01:25:20.000The way that they, you know, the narrative that they spin, it's always some kind of catastrophic thing if you get rid of this post or that post.
01:25:29.000But the USAID stuff, we have Mike Benz on a lot, and he says that, you know, there's not really a whole lot of light between USAID and CIA, right?
01:25:38.000Like, USAID is basically a front for CIA.
01:25:42.000Well, you see how the DNC is basically broke since USAID got cut.
01:25:47.000Yeah, I think that was one of the best things to do is to cut USAID.
01:25:50.000But I think a lot of people are getting disenfranchised because we have all this fraud that's happening.
01:25:55.000And then you have Rand Paul once a year that does the Festivus report.
01:25:57.000And you're saying, this is ridiculous.
01:25:59.000But no one ever seems to get held accountable for wasting all of our money.
01:26:04.000And I'm kind of circling back to the American dream.
01:26:07.000I think that's another clout that's on top of the United States right now.
01:26:11.000I mean, okay, we're arresting Somalians in Minnesota and all of that.
01:26:22.000Yeah, I wonder how much, like, what percentage of the total U.S. budget is fraud, right?
01:26:29.000Like, out of all of the money, because Musk was making the argument that he thought it was like a trillion dollars, which when I first heard it, I was like, come on, man.
01:26:37.000Like, the U.S. spends like two trillion.
01:26:38.000You think half of the money that's getting spent is a trillion dollars.
01:26:42.000And then you hear about the billions of dollars in, you know, one state alone, and you're like, oh, well, maybe.
01:26:56.000I mean, Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security are the biggest drivers.
01:27:00.000And you got to imagine look, when you offer people some kind of social service for legitimate problems that they're having, you know that there are a lot of people that are like, oh, well, I have a problem too.
01:27:14.000How many people that you see rolling around on scooters at Walmart are.
01:27:20.000On Social Security because they can't work because they can't get up and walk.
01:27:37.000It's like, maybe you shouldn't be on Social Security.
01:27:40.000Maybe we shouldn't have these programs, you know, or maybe we should have more stringent rules about who can and cannot get on the program.
01:27:50.000Because, look, the amount of money that is waste, fraud, and abuse probably does approach what Musk was talking about.
01:29:51.000So, federal prosecutors estimate that roughly $9 billion in taxpayer money has been compromised or stolen through widespread industrial scale fraud schemes across 14 states administered social services programs.
01:30:41.000If there are people like that in power and they really are like, I'm this thing first, then I'm an American citizen, and they could just.
01:30:48.000Print up money by tweaking some numbers in a computer and like send money elsewhere and like the American people over and like they don't really care about America.
01:30:56.000There shouldn't be people that are hyphenated Americans in Congress, right?
01:31:02.000Like, part of like business born in, you should have to denounce other.
01:31:06.000Yeah, you should you shouldn't be allowed to be a dual citizen and be in Congress.
01:31:09.000You shouldn't you shouldn't be saying things like Ilhan Omar where you know we're Somalis first or I'm here to take care of the Somalis, absolutely.
01:31:17.000You know, if you were and and that goes the same for Israelis, Israel has.
01:32:34.000We have plenty of oil here in the United States.
01:32:37.000I'm actually kind of partial to the argument that oil is too valuable to burn.
01:32:43.000I like the idea of going towards electric vehicles and stuff like that because just burning it seems like you're using one of the most functional.
01:34:08.000Break the carbon chains apart and then they reform into structural graphene, which you can use to strengthen roads and build, strengthen concrete and things like that.
01:34:39.000Everything we need, whether you're talking about oil or whether you're talking about rare earth minerals that we get all from China, that's all here in the U.S.
01:34:48.000There's basically everything the United States needs to run the United States can be produced here.
01:34:54.000We even have the most pure silicone on earth.
01:35:00.000There's this town in North Carolina that has the silicone mine that is the only place that has 99.999% pure silicone.
01:35:10.000And that's what you have to use to make chips.
01:35:12.000But not only that, you have to make the crucibles out of silicone as well because you can't have any contaminant in it.
01:35:57.000It is cheaper because we've had, you know, there's so many countries that had emerging markets and they were basically going from an agrarian society to a modern society.
01:36:05.000That's part of the reason why everything got shipped to China, is because they were trying to bring the Chinese economy into the 20th century.
01:36:14.000But yeah, I do, I'm aware of the amount of oil that we have here.
01:36:19.000And I do think that, you know, oil is the petrodollar is still the main driver.
01:37:18.000But I think we've been so, like, I don't want to say infiltrated, but like, we're talking about are you Jewish American or African American or, you know, we need to get in the mindset you're American, right?
01:37:30.000We have so many different countries that are invading.
01:37:33.000Physically and mentally, too, as far as elections or just even propaganda pieces that you're hearing all the time on social media.
01:37:41.000It's like everyone's combating, you know, I'm Muslim or I'm Jewish.
01:37:46.000And instead of just focusing on being an American, we're putting these other ideals in front of what it actually means to be an American.
01:37:54.000And I think that's what's kind of getting lost.
01:38:32.000I don't think that you don't hear it so much from people that are on the right, though.
01:38:37.000I mean, sure, I think when you're talking about like, Like black Americans, African Americans, um, people on the right that are black Americans, they'll still kind of call themselves African Americans.
01:38:47.000Um, but you don't hear people that are on the right that are from other countries generally kind of sliding into that mindset.
01:38:55.000It's only Jew, American Jews, when they're oh, it's definitely not only American Jews.
01:38:58.000We have on the show, they're like, you have people on their Instagram and stuff, it's but it's not only Jews, but that's like the one I could say on the right that I can think of off the top of my head.
01:39:07.000Oh, you're talking about people on the right, okay.
01:39:10.000No, because you hear, like I said, African Americans, black Americans that have their family that was here, that are descendants of slaves, they'll still call themselves African Americans.
01:39:22.000But not Israeli Americans, like not Jewish Americans.
01:40:53.000So I'm like, thanking God for the corporatization of my reality.
01:40:56.000Look, you go to Europe and like, you know, nine, like there are definitely countries where like, you know, eight o'clock, everything's closed.
01:42:53.000It's the threat of litigation if someone gets sick from eating something.
01:42:59.000So I do feel like I'm talking out of two sides of my mouth when I talk about this because I love the organization of the bureaucracy of the manufacturer.
01:43:06.000Like I know that 2 a.m. Waffle House, if I want to drive.
01:45:09.000But that seems like the ultimate goal of the unistate is like total obedience or at least close enough to it that you don't deviate unless they allow you.
01:45:17.000They choose you to be one of the deviators.
01:45:18.000The only places that have been like that in modern history have all been like, you know, state controlled communist countries.
01:45:28.000And then you can sort of see microcosms within corporations acting like that, where there's like a leadership top down authority where things move fast and you're punished readily for violating their terms.
01:45:38.000Like if that got extrapolated into a government, it could be a problem.
01:45:52.000Like, if you said the wrong thing, I mean, even and it's not even just communist, like, if you criticize Putin too strongly, you know, and you have a big enough voice, they're gonna make sure that you stop.
01:46:04.000So, the other side of the coin is get off my lawn.
01:46:47.000So, like, it's like join them or get destroyed.
01:46:51.000I don't, I'm still not following the, I'm still not.
01:46:54.000Following the context as to what would get, you know, German planes to drop a bomb on you and your property.
01:47:01.000I know, I'm picking a random location inside of the United States.
01:47:04.000Like a sovereign Borg like entity that was observing the people that chose not to be part of that grid that wanted to maintain their national sovereignty, then the entity that's being like, all right, it's time to go seize their territory.
01:47:17.000Are you imagining like the Amish or the Mennonites?
01:47:51.000So there's no hiding from the Borg, like the entity, the machine tracking algorithmic function that we're just creating as we speak.
01:48:00.000I feel like you're the machine Borg that you're talking about is a bit too abstract to really kind of.
01:48:09.000Will kind of articulate the idea that you're trying to get across because it's such a if you're just like, well, you know, the abstract big brother kind of thing.
01:48:22.000Are you talking about like a global thing?
01:48:24.000Are you talking about the United States having that kind of power?
01:48:28.000Or because you mentioned a lot of times you'll talk about corporations and then you'll talk about the government and they mix together and stuff.
01:48:34.000And I'm having a hard time following what you do.
01:48:37.000What you're, well, I'm having a hard time following your thought process.
01:48:40.000The international, so like corporations that exist in multiple.
01:48:43.000Countries that have autonomous artificial intelligence that then take over the airplanes, like Boeing installs an AI in their airplane fighter jets now.
01:48:51.000So, and then it goes rogue, and no one has control of these systems of.
01:48:56.000So, you're talking about like an AI kind of thing.
01:48:59.000Or humans that become part of this AI that opt in, and then now they're sort of in quasi control or influence over the system while it's influencing them to not say the wrong words.
01:49:14.000Neuralinked people that are connected to the network and decide that they're going to come after you with German planes and drop a bomb on your ass.
01:49:24.000And the bombs themselves will be intelligent.
01:50:01.000Like, I mean, obviously, there have been, you know, a lot of infringements on people's rights.
01:50:08.000But the government still, there's still ways to push back against the government.
01:50:13.000You know, the courts still have a decent amount of power and can, you can find relief, you know, when you go to court.
01:50:22.000Sometimes, I mean, the biggest thing that bothers me is stuff like the commerce clause and the necessary and proper clauses, where they can use that kind of for any justification for most bad behavior the government does when it comes to telling people what to do.
01:50:37.000They can kind of find a justification in the commerce clause, and that's a problem.
01:51:07.000Didn't they just say they're allowing autonomous military to become AI driven?
01:51:13.000Well, I think that it's more like targeting in specific contexts.
01:51:22.000So, like in a specific battlefield, they'll allow the AI to kind of.
01:51:27.000Pick targets and decide which ones are the most important and so on down the line.
01:51:34.000I don't think there's really a better one or the other is necessarily better.
01:51:37.000Like being part of a collective where it is ordered and not particularly evil, but like just crushing, dominating, and organized wouldn't necessarily be horrible.
01:51:48.000I mean, we could all get along in a system like that, although free speech is pretty important, and I don't know if that could exist in a system like that.
01:51:54.000The other aspect is like more chaotic.
01:51:57.000Where everyone owns their own territory, they don't necessarily speak the same language.
01:52:01.000The real question when it comes to people that are plugged into a Neuralink kind of thing that connects all their brains
01:52:10.000is not whether or not you have free speech, it's the question of what you're saying.
01:52:15.000Is it really your creation or is it the thoughts of a robot or someone else?
01:52:21.000And are the things you're saying being heard by the other person as you're saying them or is it being warped in between and you don't know?
01:52:28.000Yeah, their perception could be are you really hearing them?
01:52:31.000Thing that you think you're hearing, or are you actually hearing what the other person is saying?
01:52:35.000It could get systems to a point where they code in the background so fast that I say hello, Steve.
01:52:40.000And but as the data translates through the internet, you hear fuck you, Steve, and you're like, bro.
01:52:46.000And we get into it, and they just and that's why you need your software code access so you see if the system is tweaking your data in transit.
01:52:54.000This is going to be like actually a really good point where like people hack into Neuralink and they have the elites sipping on their martinis or whatever they drink and just watching people fight over each other via Neuralink.
01:53:04.000No, and actually, that I do think is legitimate because if you're dealing with, you know, like we talk about read write technology, right?
01:53:11.000Like, it's not only, you know, are you sure what you're hearing is actually what the other person is saying, but, you know, it becomes a question of is the other person even there, right?
01:53:24.000Because if they can, if they can, you know, Musk is talking about Neuralink will be able to restore vision, and in 18 months, he's saying you'll be able to see in different spectrums, right?
01:53:34.000Not just in, Visible light, but you'll be able to see in infrared and you'll be able to see like through Neuralink.
01:53:44.000If your vision can be augmented like that and they have the capability of communicating with your brain on that level, well, what's to say?
01:53:53.000Who's to say that the person sitting in front of you is even there?
01:53:57.000Like you sit down, you think that you're talking to someone, but it's actually just Neuralink telling you.
01:54:18.000Because, like a horse, if you tie it to a post enough times, you can just untie it and it will think, it will just stand there next to the post as if it's permanently trained.
01:54:27.000You don't have to tie it tight, you just throw the reins over the post and it'll just be like, All right, well, I can't.
01:57:49.000We don't need to have a lot of immigration for our.
01:57:51.000Let the people that are here assimilate.
01:57:54.000The people that are here illegally, let the government take the time to find them and send them back to where they need to be.
01:58:00.000But the people that are here illegally that actually want to use that $3,000 check to get out of here, let them use the app and go back home.
01:59:52.000If you want to get oil out of oil spills, you can put iron oxide dust into the oil spill and then use magnets, and the oil will coagulate around the magnets, and you can literally.
02:00:02.000Pull oil out of the ocean with magnets.
02:02:25.000Bung says, question for the panel How easy or likely would it be for the USA to fully move over to nuclear energy by the end of this century?
02:02:32.000By the end of this century, probably pretty easily.
02:02:41.000I mean, nuclear power in general, in my opinion, is extremely.
02:02:46.000Extremely promising and should have been the key to basically free energy.
02:02:53.000Dude, thorium reactors don't, they've mitigated meltdowns because they'll have like a frozen plug at the bottom of the tank.
02:03:00.000So if the tank gets too hot, the plug melts and then it drains out and it doesn't overheat.
02:03:06.000And because it's mixed with like liquid salt, molten salt, a lot of times if there's a rupture in the system, it will expand naturally so it will cool itself down.